From paul.hartland at fsmail.net Tue Apr 1 02:20:34 2003 From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 8:20:34 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] Weekending Date Message-ID: <20030401082034.BYX18722.fep06-svc.ttys.com@localhost> To all, I just can't think straight today (as usual), I want the user to be able to click a button and the Weekending date to be calculated... i.e. User clicks today (01/04/03) and the weekending date displays as 06/04/03.. Whats the best way to do this, the weekending date will always be the following Sunday, unless it is Sunday of course.. Paul __________________________________________________________________________ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application. From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Tue Apr 1 02:32:44 2003 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 09:32:44 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Weekending Date In-Reply-To: <20030401082034.BYX18722.fep06-svc.ttys.com@localhost> Message-ID: <00ab01c2f829$445405e0$b274d0d5@andypc> Paul, try dtNextSunday = dtDate + 7 - Weekday(dtDate,vbmonday) Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > paul.hartland at fsmail.net > Sent: 01 April 2003 09:21 > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Weekending Date > > > To all, > > I just can't think straight today (as usual), I want the user > to be able to click a button and the Weekending date to be > calculated... > > i.e. > > User clicks today (01/04/03) and the weekending date displays > as 06/04/03.. > > Whats the best way to do this, the weekending date will > always be the following Sunday, unless it is Sunday of course.. > > Paul > > ______________________________________________________________ > ____________ > Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ > > Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association > awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application. > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd > Website: > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Tue Apr 1 02:43:02 2003 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 09:43:02 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Reports - No Data In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00ac01c2f82a$b4cc54c0$b274d0d5@andypc> FWIW I do like you John, using the calling routines OnError of course to trap the Cancel. Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow > Sent: 31 March 2003 21:28 > To: AccessD > Subject: [AccessD] Reports - No Data > > > How do you handle reports with no data? I have an A97 app > that I want to make it more clear to the user that the report > has no data and then not display it to them. > > I use the OnNoDate event to display a message box and set > cancel to true. Is there a better, more meaningful way? > > JB > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd > Website: > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk Tue Apr 1 03:07:33 2003 From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 10:07:33 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318803956696@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk> Standard left outer join on staff ID - is there another way?! *bangs head on desk* R. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: 31-Mar-2003 17:20 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables How are you combining your tables? Susan H. What I'm finding (and I can't believe I never hit this before) is that although the SQL tables can be updated through the Access FE, and the local tables can be updated, combine them and wallop, not updateable. Even if all the key fields are included in the query. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk Tue Apr 1 03:11:17 2003 From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 10:11:17 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318803956697@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk> Charles You're right, it would work. I'm reluctant to clutter the server with lots of little bitty tables though, (like, 100) and to transfer them all would be a major commitment when, of course, they need this fixing yesterday... Lambert's tab form thingy might work kinda, and I guess I could also unbind some of the data without having to unbind the whole lot. Thanks for your help Roz -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: 31-Mar-2003 17:26 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Roz, I admit that I have never tried updating both Access and SQL Server tables at the same time so I have not run into your problem. But one solution that will work is to move the local tables to the BE, use SQL Server Security to protect the data, and convert the MDBs to ADPs. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] Sent: Monday 2003 Mar 31 10:01 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Charles Sorry for the vague. I am still a little wiped out from the weekend. Access XP, SQL 7. It's a 1:1 relationship - how do I tell it that?! It's not an update query as such, just a normal select statement behind a form. Thanks Roz -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: 31 March 2003 16:43 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Roz, Are you saying you have an Access db (version?) with a local table and a link to a table in SQL Server (version?) and you are trying to update both in one update query? If so, remember that the rules of updating generally do not allow the updating of the one side of a one-to-many relationship. If you do have a one-to-many relationship you need to use two update queries, one for each side. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] Sent: Monday 2003 Mar 31 09:33 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Dear all I have a SQL database which stores core information about members of staff here - name, department, phone extn. etc. I need to publish this information out to several different departments, all of whom need to be able to update the data. At the same time, they each have local data requirements which have to be updated alongside the core data. I was going to put these in Access databases and give each department it's own. What I'm finding (and I can't believe I never hit this before) is that although the SQL tables can be updated through the Access FE, and the local tables can be updated, combine them and wallop, not updateable. Even if all the key fields are included in the query. The amount of info is about 50/50 and it would be highly user-unfriendly to split the data onto separate forms. Is unbound the only way forward??? TIA Roz _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk Tue Apr 1 03:17:16 2003 From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 10:17:16 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] A97 - AXP Message-ID: <52339DF8DCA2A544AF660C8217EB7DCD0227F125@mailgate.bury.gov.uk> Hi looking for advice.....we are currently rolling out XP with office XP. Most users beforehand used A97 (a few A2000, A95). I have been asked to suggest way forward w.r.t. how to implement this process w.r.t to users still being able to run their existing access applications. In summary some applications are user developed using direct access to tables ie. table view some applications third party developed most still have A97 some have been upgraded to XP My initial thoughts were to wrap up all the A97 apps into runtime and distribute...... however this has problems as users have designed some of their apps using table views etc which do not work under runtime also this option prevents users from going in and setting up their own queries and making their own amendments i.e. using full blown Access. So how can A97 users run along side AXP (A2000) users most efficiently? Can this be done?? (I did think whether users should keep hold of their A97 copy in addition to Office/Access XP, but I think we may have used those licenses for the upgrade to Office XP) Any experience/suggestion would be greatly appreciated. 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From gustav at cactus.dk Tue Apr 1 04:43:07 2003 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 12:43:07 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7718580717.20030401124307@cactus.dk> Hi John Sounds strange. Try to replace CLng() with Int(). Or, if you like, you may send me a sample sheet and your table and query and I can run it here ... /gustav > It's been awhile since I have dealt with A97. I am doing an import of data > from excel spreadsheets. The data in the spreadsheet is a dbl datatype, but > is really a long int, i.e. no decimal points. I am linking the spreadsheet, > whereupon I see that the datatype of the field is dbl. I build a base query > that runs these fields through a clng() to convert them to long integers. I > then append the data into a table. The append process works the first time > it is run, then the second time, I get a Numeric Overflow. I get the > overflow between the "you are about to..." warning and the "X records did > not append..." error. In fact that second error never occurs. Once the > error occurs, I have to shut down the db and re-open it, whereupon the query > will run successfully one time, then the error again. > I am at SP2 for A97, and I don't remember what the latest SP is for A97. From gustav at cactus.dk Tue Apr 1 05:05:33 2003 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 13:05:33 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables In-Reply-To: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318803956689@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk> References: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318803956689@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk> Message-ID: <4019925891.20030401130533@cactus.dk> Hi Roz If the primary indexes of the two tables are not equal I guess you'll probably never succeed with one query. /gustav > I have a SQL database which stores core information about members of staff > here - name, department, phone extn. etc. > I need to publish this information out to several different departments, all > of whom need to be able to update the data. At the same time, they each have > local data requirements which have to be updated alongside the core data. I > was going to put these in Access databases and give each department it's > own. > What I'm finding (and I can't believe I never hit this before) is that > although the SQL tables can be updated through the Access FE, and the local > tables can be updated, combine them and wallop, not updateable. Even if all > the key fields are included in the query. > The amount of info is about 50/50 and it would be highly user-unfriendly to > split the data onto separate forms. Is unbound the only way forward??? From gustav at cactus.dk Tue Apr 1 05:39:44 2003 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 13:39:44 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] VBE In-Reply-To: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82537@main2.marlow.com> References: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82537@main2.marlow.com> Message-ID: <321977552.20030401133944@cactus.dk> Hi Drew > I have dual monitors, and I like have VB 6 in one screen, Access (97) in > another, and my HTML editor in the last. That's handy. That makes three monitors. Or is the first and last one the same? Or would one monitor be identical with another and not the last? Or ... ... gasp. /gustav From gustav at cactus.dk Tue Apr 1 05:46:58 2003 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 13:46:58 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Reports - No Data In-Reply-To: <00ac01c2f82a$b4cc54c0$b274d0d5@andypc> References: <00ac01c2f82a$b4cc54c0$b274d0d5@andypc> Message-ID: <19322411616.20030401134658@cactus.dk> Hi Andy I like John too - even without calling error routines. (OK - I promise, I'll stop now. Next stop Friday.) /gustav > FWIW I do like you John, using the calling routines OnError .. From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Apr 1 06:20:44 2003 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD)) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 04:20:44 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] A97 - AXP In-Reply-To: <52339DF8DCA2A544AF660C8217EB7DCD0227F125@mailgate.bury.gov.uk> Message-ID: Hi Richard: Unless there are a large amount of computers in the office. Access97 and Access2000 will have to be installed, individually on each computer requiring access to the specific versions of Access. It can be a slow process. If you are responsible, for such an event, you may want to start trying to move the users up to one version of Access, like XP. I have found that most applications will upgrade without issue. This will take a high degree of tack, may require some training sessions and therapy for yourself. In a larger office, when a big roll-outs it is done, it is more economic, to replace all the computers with a standard model, create a standard CD OS image or server image. This image can have all three versions, A97, A2K and AXP setup. All custom applications will have to run off the server(s). In this scenario, after the initial station is fully tested, the image is generated from that station, then each computer can be upgraded in about ten minutes. You should only entertain this idea if there were more than thirty computers to upgrade. You can run all three versions of Access on the same box, just work backward from the current version to the oldest, making sure you do not over-write any directories or files. I would recommend trying to wean everyone off older versions, assuming all the applications have their source code. (With all the individuals creating and running their own applications, in every version of Access, it sound like my worse nightmare...At least you have job security. Then proper license issues can be really ugly... If there are enough people, a site-license can be a cheaper alternative.) HTH Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Griffiths, Richard Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:17 AM To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: [AccessD] A97 - AXP Hi looking for advice.....we are currently rolling out XP with office XP. Most users beforehand used A97 (a few A2000, A95). I have been asked to suggest way forward w.r.t. how to implement this process w.r.t to users still being able to run their existing access applications. In summary some applications are user developed using direct access to tables ie. table view some applications third party developed most still have A97 some have been upgraded to XP My initial thoughts were to wrap up all the A97 apps into runtime and distribute...... however this has problems as users have designed some of their apps using table views etc which do not work under runtime also this option prevents users from going in and setting up their own queries and making their own amendments i.e. using full blown Access. So how can A97 users run along side AXP (A2000) users most efficiently? Can this be done?? (I did think whether users should keep hold of their A97 copy in addition to Office/Access XP, but I think we may have used those licenses for the upgrade to Office XP) Any experience/suggestion would be greatly appreciated. Richard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------- This e-mail, together with any files transmitted with it, is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, or the person responsible for delivering to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited without liability on our part. By responding to this e-mail it is accepted that your response may be the subject of recording/monitoring to ensure compliance with the Council?s ICT Security Policy If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Jdemarco at hshhp.org Tue Apr 1 06:58:11 2003 From: Jdemarco at hshhp.org (Jim DeMarco) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 07:58:11 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Search archives: was Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Message-ID: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F99D85759@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com> Drew, All this does is load your search page with no values loaded. Should it load the value passed in "SearchString" and/or perform the search too (just curious)? Thanks, Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:48 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Okay, here's what you should have:
Search:
The IP Address you have was with my old ISP. Just use the domain name. (Right now, going to www.wolfwares.com will swap to an IP Address in your browser (trying to get that fixed....), but the path works fine. Also, you want the method to be Post, so it sends the information through as a form. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 5:27 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Drew: Yes I am... here is the code fragment from the search Form tag: ...
... You should be able to receive and manage the query string variable 'SearchString'. There might be so other issues but this is the sending syntax. I have never had a chance to actually test the process of transferring a query string to a remote site but this is the setting as read. HTH Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:04 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Actually Jim, are you putting this into an HTML form? If so, can you just name the 'search' button 'Search', with a value of 'Search', and then the 'textbox' name as SearchString (as you have it). Right now, my ASP page looks for that value for the submit button, to do the search. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 4:28 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Hi Drew: I was not trying to imply you should get on to the archive issue. I was just stating an observation. While we are on the subject, could you set your index page to check for an incoming query strings, named 'SearchString'; I think it is variable name you use. If the value is null, display normally else, fill SearchString variable from the contents of the received query string 'SearchString' and process the search. I guess the content/memo field should be the default field for searching? What do you think? This will/should only be a short-term fix until a more permanent home for the archive can be found. Thank you so much for all your work and effort. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 1:51 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Okay, the archive will be fully available sometime very early Wednesday morning. I was working on writing the new ASP interface (well, the code behind it), and discovered that my indexer was chopping off the last letter of each word it was indexing. Long story. So after fixing that bug, I had to re-index the Memo fields. At 2 pm today, it had indexed 10,000 records (a little more...but close enough), and I 'restarted' the indexer last night at 3 am. So in about 11 hours it did 10,000, there are about 40,000 records in the database, so it's going to be about 33 hours from 2 this afternoon. (Also, the searching is there, just not totally complete....it'll take me a few hours to finish up the pages themselves, probably do that tonight) Drew > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:22 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > John: From someone on this list...need the archive. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 12:28 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > Nope, just starting to append records. And where did you get 65K > records maximum? > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 1:47 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > Hi John: > > You have not exceeded the maximum of 65000 records by any chance? > > Just a thought > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:09 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > In fact I was just appending the same data twice. I have a unique > index on a combination of fields that should prevent the data from going > in a second time. This was just a test of that index to make sure the > data would not go in again. > > In fact though the user may end up importing several different > files, one after another. The entire process is to ask the user to find > the file, copy it to a specific file name in a specific directory so that > the link works correctly, copy the original to a backup directory, then > run the append queries to get the data out of the spreadsheets and into > the table. From there a "all records in the previous" and "all records > NOT in the previous" will be run for reporting purposes. > > It shouldn't matter what I am doing though. If it runs once, it > should run a million times. It may very well come back and say "X records > could not be appended..." because of the unique index, but it should NOT > give me this "numeric overflow" error. According to help that means that > "the data is too big for a btrieve field" or some such. IOW, one of those > useless error messages. The fact that the data actually imports makes it > even more suspicious. > > I just don't want to send out work that pops up useless error > messages and has to be exited and reloaded in order to work. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Wortz, > Charles > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 11:11 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > > JC, > > You got me confused when you say "The append process works the first > time it is run, then the second time, I get a Numeric Overflow." > What > are you doing the second time? Appending the same data to the same > records, or appending some other data to some other records, or > what? > > Charles Wortz > Software Development Division > Texas Education Agency > 1701 N. Congress Ave > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > 512-463-9493 > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com] > Sent: Monday 2003 Mar 31 10:01 > To: AccessD > Subject: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > Guys, > > It's been awhile since I have dealt with A97. I am doing an import > of > data from excel spreadsheets. The data in the spreadsheet is a dbl > datatype, but is really a long int, i.e. no decimal points. I am > linking the spreadsheet, whereupon I see that the datatype of the > field > is dbl. I build a base query that runs these fields through a > clng() to > convert them to long integers. I then append the data into a table. > The append process works the first time it is run, then the second > time, > I get a Numeric Overflow. I get the overflow between the "you are > about > to..." warning and the "X records did not append..." error. In fact > that second error never occurs. Once the error occurs, I have to > shut > down the db and re-open it, whereupon the query will run > successfully > one time, then the error again. > > I am at SP2 for A97, and I don't remember what the latest SP is for > A97. > > Has anyone ever seen this problem? > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. > Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com << File: ATT00050.txt >> << > File: ATT00097.txt >> > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Is email taking over your day? 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Or am I dreaming? Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Gustav Brock > Sent: 01 April 2003 12:47 > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Reports - No Data > > > Hi Andy > > I like John too - even without calling error routines. > > (OK - I promise, I'll stop now. Next stop Friday.) > > /gustav > > > > FWIW I do like you John, using the calling routines OnError .. > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd > Website: > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk Tue Apr 1 07:37:16 2003 From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 14:37:16 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] A97 - AXP Message-ID: <52339DF8DCA2A544AF660C8217EB7DCD0227F127@mailgate.bury.gov.uk> Jim thanks for that - I work for local governent so the number of pc's is say about 5000 - we do use an image for installations - my input is not here though, its to suggest how the various users some of which have been upgraded and some who have not been upgraded can use their current access applications. If think if we can have both A97 and Access XP installed is best but this will depend upon whether the Access 97 lisences have been used for the XP ones Richard > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [SMTP:accessd at shaw.ca] > Sent: 01 April 2003 13:21 > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] A97 - AXP > > Hi Richard: > > Unless there are a large amount of computers in the office. Access97 and > Access2000 will have to be installed, individually on each computer > requiring access to the specific versions of Access. It can be a slow > process. If you are responsible, for such an event, you may want to start > trying to move the users up to one version of Access, like XP. I have > found > that most applications will upgrade without issue. This will take a high > degree of tack, may require some training sessions and therapy for > yourself. > > In a larger office, when a big roll-outs it is done, it is more economic, > to > replace all the computers with a standard model, create a standard CD OS > image or server image. This image can have all three versions, A97, A2K > and > AXP setup. All custom applications will have to run off the server(s). In > this scenario, after the initial station is fully tested, the image is > generated from that station, then each computer can be upgraded in about > ten > minutes. You should only entertain this idea if there were more than > thirty > computers to upgrade. > > You can run all three versions of Access on the same box, just work > backward > from the current version to the oldest, making sure you do not over-write > any directories or files. I would recommend trying to wean everyone off > older versions, assuming all the applications have their source code. > > (With all the individuals creating and running their own applications, in > every version of Access, it sound like my worse nightmare...At least you > have job security. Then proper license issues can be really ugly... If > there > are enough people, a site-license can be a cheaper alternative.) > > HTH > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Griffiths, > Richard > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:17 AM > To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: [AccessD] A97 - AXP > > > Hi > > looking for advice.....we are currently rolling out XP with office XP. > > Most users beforehand used A97 (a few A2000, A95). I have been asked to > suggest way forward w.r.t. how to implement this process w.r.t to users > still being able to run their existing access applications. > > In summary > > some applications are user developed using direct access to tables ie. > table > view > some applications third party developed > most still have A97 > some have been upgraded to XP > > My initial thoughts were to wrap up all the A97 apps into runtime and > distribute...... > > however this has problems as users have designed some of their apps using > table views etc which do not work under runtime > also this option prevents users from going in and setting up their own > queries and making their own amendments i.e. using full blown Access. > > So how can A97 users run along side AXP (A2000) users most efficiently? > Can > this be done?? > > (I did think whether users should keep hold of their A97 copy in addition > to > Office/Access XP, but I think we may have used those licenses for the > upgrade to Office XP) > > Any experience/suggestion would be greatly appreciated. > > > Richard > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > ---------------------------------------- > This e-mail, together with any files transmitted with it, is > confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to > whom it is addressed. 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If you are not the intended recipient, or the person responsible for delivering to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited without liability on our part. By responding to this e-mail it is accepted that your response may be the subject of recording/monitoring to ensure compliance with the Council?s ICT Security Policy If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender. From bari at sos.state.ga.us Tue Apr 1 07:42:39 2003 From: bari at sos.state.ga.us (Allen, Bari) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 08:42:39 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Acc 2000: Can Grow Within Column not working Message-ID: I have "Can Grow" set to yes, for both the section, and the field, within a 2-column (Down, then across) report. For some reason, when the field length extends the printed area of the column, it simply truncates, and does not wrap. Does anyone know how to solve this? Thanks in advance for your help. Bari -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gustav at cactus.dk Tue Apr 1 07:46:33 2003 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 15:46:33 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Reports - No Data In-Reply-To: <00b201c2f84d$fdac6860$b274d0d5@andypc> References: <00b201c2f84d$fdac6860$b274d0d5@andypc> Message-ID: <1329586643.20030401154633@cactus.dk> Hi Andy > ? But if you don't trap it you get an error 2501 (user cancelled) - > don't you????? Or am I dreaming? No, you are just working to much! Why didn't I delay my "brainy" comment until Friday ... /gustav >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of >> Gustav Brock >> Sent: 01 April 2003 12:47 >> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Reports - No Data >> >> >> Hi Andy >> >> I like John too - even without calling error routines. >> >> (OK - I promise, I'll stop now. Next stop Friday.) >> >> /gustav >> >> >> > FWIW I do like you John, using the calling routines OnError .. From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Tue Apr 1 07:49:04 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 07:49:04 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Message-ID: Roz, I doubt that all 100 tables have unique table definitions. Since they are all storing local data about personnel, I would hazard a guess that 95% or more of the data each is collecting is similar and can go in one table. With SS Security, as I have already suggested, it is no problem to have many departments store their data in one table and keep it secure. But you are correct in that Lambert's tab idea will be quicker for you to implement. Good luck in getting it all done by yesterday. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 01 03:11 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Charles You're right, it would work. I'm reluctant to clutter the server with lots of little bitty tables though, (like, 100) and to transfer them all would be a major commitment when, of course, they need this fixing yesterday... Lambert's tab form thingy might work kinda, and I guess I could also unbind some of the data without having to unbind the whole lot. Thanks for your help Roz -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: 31-Mar-2003 17:26 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Roz, I admit that I have never tried updating both Access and SQL Server tables at the same time so I have not run into your problem. But one solution that will work is to move the local tables to the BE, use SQL Server Security to protect the data, and convert the MDBs to ADPs. Charles Wortz -----Original Message----- From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] Sent: Monday 2003 Mar 31 10:01 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Charles Sorry for the vague. I am still a little wiped out from the weekend. Access XP, SQL 7. It's a 1:1 relationship - how do I tell it that?! It's not an update query as such, just a normal select statement behind a form. Thanks Roz -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: 31 March 2003 16:43 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Roz, Are you saying you have an Access db (version?) with a local table and a link to a table in SQL Server (version?) and you are trying to update both in one update query? If so, remember that the rules of updating generally do not allow the updating of the one side of a one-to-many relationship. If you do have a one-to-many relationship you need to use two update queries, one for each side. Charles Wortz -----Original Message----- From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] Sent: Monday 2003 Mar 31 09:33 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Dear all I have a SQL database which stores core information about members of staff here - name, department, phone extn. etc. I need to publish this information out to several different departments, all of whom need to be able to update the data. At the same time, they each have local data requirements which have to be updated alongside the core data. I was going to put these in Access databases and give each department it's own. What I'm finding (and I can't believe I never hit this before) is that although the SQL tables can be updated through the Access FE, and the local tables can be updated, combine them and wallop, not updateable. Even if all the key fields are included in the query. The amount of info is about 50/50 and it would be highly user-unfriendly to split the data onto separate forms. Is unbound the only way forward??? TIA Roz From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Tue Apr 1 08:03:00 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 08:03:00 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Acc 2000: Can Grow Within Column not working Message-ID: Bari, It can only grow until it hits another field below it. Thus, if you have another control (line, text box, etc.) defined below it, that puts a limit on how far it can grow. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Allen, Bari [mailto:bari at sos.state.ga.us] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 01 07:43 To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Acc 2000: Can Grow Within Column not working I have "Can Grow" set to yes, for both the section, and the field, within a 2-column (Down, then across) report. For some reason, when the field length extends the printed area of the column, it simply truncates, and does not wrap. Does anyone know how to solve this? Thanks in advance for your help. Bari -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk Tue Apr 1 09:06:29 2003 From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 16:06:29 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C83188039566A6@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk> Actually it is pretty different, though 100 tables is a bit of an exaggeration. There's a lot of fiddly stuff to do with definitions of work teams, and stages in legal training - let's not go there, eh? I have implemented the tab control in the most urgently needed app, and tabled the major re-vamp for future reference. -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: 01 April 2003 14:49 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Roz, I doubt that all 100 tables have unique table definitions. Since they are all storing local data about personnel, I would hazard a guess that 95% or more of the data each is collecting is similar and can go in one table. With SS Security, as I have already suggested, it is no problem to have many departments store their data in one table and keep it secure. But you are correct in that Lambert's tab idea will be quicker for you to implement. Good luck in getting it all done by yesterday. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 01 03:11 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Charles You're right, it would work. I'm reluctant to clutter the server with lots of little bitty tables though, (like, 100) and to transfer them all would be a major commitment when, of course, they need this fixing yesterday... Lambert's tab form thingy might work kinda, and I guess I could also unbind some of the data without having to unbind the whole lot. Thanks for your help Roz -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: 31-Mar-2003 17:26 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Roz, I admit that I have never tried updating both Access and SQL Server tables at the same time so I have not run into your problem. But one solution that will work is to move the local tables to the BE, use SQL Server Security to protect the data, and convert the MDBs to ADPs. Charles Wortz -----Original Message----- From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] Sent: Monday 2003 Mar 31 10:01 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Charles Sorry for the vague. I am still a little wiped out from the weekend. Access XP, SQL 7. It's a 1:1 relationship - how do I tell it that?! It's not an update query as such, just a normal select statement behind a form. Thanks Roz -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: 31 March 2003 16:43 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Roz, Are you saying you have an Access db (version?) with a local table and a link to a table in SQL Server (version?) and you are trying to update both in one update query? If so, remember that the rules of updating generally do not allow the updating of the one side of a one-to-many relationship. If you do have a one-to-many relationship you need to use two update queries, one for each side. Charles Wortz -----Original Message----- From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] Sent: Monday 2003 Mar 31 09:33 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Dear all I have a SQL database which stores core information about members of staff here - name, department, phone extn. etc. I need to publish this information out to several different departments, all of whom need to be able to update the data. At the same time, they each have local data requirements which have to be updated alongside the core data. I was going to put these in Access databases and give each department it's own. What I'm finding (and I can't believe I never hit this before) is that although the SQL tables can be updated through the Access FE, and the local tables can be updated, combine them and wallop, not updateable. Even if all the key fields are included in the query. The amount of info is about 50/50 and it would be highly user-unfriendly to split the data onto separate forms. Is unbound the only way forward??? TIA Roz _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From harkins at iglou.com Tue Apr 1 09:24:56 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 10:24:56 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables References: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318803956696@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk> Message-ID: <00d501c2f863$0548e7f0$e8e6ffcc@SusanOne> MessageWell, when you say "combine" -- I think of append or UNION. Relationships "join" records -- nothing wrong with the way you siad it -- I just thought I'd check to make sure. So here's the next question -- how do you know it's not updateable? Are you getting an error message? Is there a blank (new) record at the bottom of the query in Datasheet View? Susan H. Standard left outer join on staff ID - is there another way?! *bangs head on desk* R. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: 31-Mar-2003 17:20 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables How are you combining your tables? Susan H. What I'm finding (and I can't believe I never hit this before) is that although the SQL tables can be updated through the Access FE, and the local tables can be updated, combine them and wallop, not updateable. Even if all the key fields are included in the query. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bari at sos.state.ga.us Tue Apr 1 09:50:58 2003 From: bari at sos.state.ga.us (Allen, Bari) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 10:50:58 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Acc 2000: Can Grow Within Column not working Message-ID: I understand that, but in this case, there is only one field in the entire section, and both the field AND sections are set to yes for both CanShrink and CanGrow. I'm wondering if the columns are somehow throwing it off, and if there's some kind of fix for it. -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:03 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Acc 2000: Can Grow Within Column not working Bari, It can only grow until it hits another field below it. Thus, if you have another control (line, text box, etc.) defined below it, that puts a limit on how far it can grow. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Allen, Bari [mailto:bari at sos.state.ga.us] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 01 07:43 To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Acc 2000: Can Grow Within Column not working I have "Can Grow" set to yes, for both the section, and the field, within a 2-column (Down, then across) report. For some reason, when the field length extends the printed area of the column, it simply truncates, and does not wrap. Does anyone know how to solve this? Thanks in advance for your help. Bari -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk Tue Apr 1 09:52:58 2003 From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 16:52:58 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C83188039566AC@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk> No blank record, all fields locked. It wouldn't surprise me if this is just a 'feature'. R. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: 01 April 2003 16:25 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Well, when you say "combine" -- I think of append or UNION. Relationships "join" records -- nothing wrong with the way you siad it -- I just thought I'd check to make sure. So here's the next question -- how do you know it's not updateable? Are you getting an error message? Is there a blank (new) record at the bottom of the query in Datasheet View? Susan H. Standard left outer join on staff ID - is there another way?! *bangs head on desk* R. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: 31-Mar-2003 17:20 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables How are you combining your tables? Susan H. What I'm finding (and I can't believe I never hit this before) is that although the SQL tables can be updated through the Access FE, and the local tables can be updated, combine them and wallop, not updateable. Even if all the key fields are included in the query. _____ _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Tue Apr 1 10:06:54 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 08:06:54 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] VBE Message-ID: I know that, Drew. The point is that the object model is entirely different, so aren't writing the same code at all, regardless of which VBE you use. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:48 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE Actually, you're still using VBA. The language is still the same. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 7:47 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE But when you program Word from within Access, you still have to use the Word object model. You aren't programming Access, you're programming Word. It isn't the same thing at all. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 4:58 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE It is the same, you just have a different 'default' object. You can program stuff for Word within Access, and Access within Word, right? Drew -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:45 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE That's like saying that programming Word and Access is the same, you just have a different object model to deal with! Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 2:23 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE The language is almost identical, you just have a different object model to deal with. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 4:07 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE To learn what in, Drew? Access VBA programming isn't the same as VB anyhow. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 1:46 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE I think the VB 6.0 'look' in A2k and up feels funny in Access because it appears to 'seperate' the code from the objects. In VB 6.0 itself, you work on the VB forms in the same environment, so there is no disconnect. Same with Access 97. However, in A2k and up, you have this 'split', where the code is worked on 'seperately'. Personally I think it's a bad environment to learn in. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:00 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE I thought it was just me. Love the IDE in VB 6.0 but feels weird in Access! Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:57 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE Me too. In fact, when I started using VB 6.0, and was presented with an interface slightly different from what I was used to in Access 97, it took a little to get used too, but I learned to like VB 6.0's VBE. However, when I then started messing with Access 2000, I found that I didn't like that same 'VBE' style in Access....I prefered the way Access 97 handled things. One thing that I love being able to do in Access 97, is to have a form open, with it's code page just beneath it. Let's you edit or run your code without having to flip flop windows. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 2:35 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE I always called it Nice! Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 2:13 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE Really? I would consider the code environment in 97 to be a VBE. You get VB like menus, it is a VB environment. Sure, it doesn't show up exactly like VB, but I have always called it the VBE. Just curious, have I been wrong all this time, and if so, what do you call the VB environment in 97? Drew > -----Original Message----- > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com] > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 8:13 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > 2k > > John W. 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Here are some general rules: A query based on a single table is updateable if: The query contains no aggregate functions or refers to a query that contains an aggregate function. The query's Unique Values property is set to No. The query doesn't include a GROUP BY clause. A multi-table query with a one to one relationship is updateable provided all of the above conditions are true. A multi-table query with a one to many relationship is updateable on both sides as long as you don't violate referential integrity rules, and provided the above conditions are true. Try adding the foreign key value to the query -- did I read where you'd tried that? If that's the case, check referential integrity -- if it's enabled, also enable the cascade updates between the two tables. Keep in mind that the following aren't updateable, regardless: Crosstab, pass-through, and UNION (that's why I asked for the clarification about the word combine), multi-table queries based on three or more tabls in a many to one to many relationship, Totals view. Hope something there helps. Susan H. ----- Original Message ----- From: Roz Clarke To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:52 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables No blank record, all fields locked. It wouldn't surprise me if this is just a 'feature'. R. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: 01 April 2003 16:25 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Well, when you say "combine" -- I think of append or UNION. Relationships "join" records -- nothing wrong with the way you siad it -- I just thought I'd check to make sure. So here's the next question -- how do you know it's not updateable? Are you getting an error message? Is there a blank (new) record at the bottom of the query in Datasheet View? Susan H. Standard left outer join on staff ID - is there another way?! *bangs head on desk* R. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: 31-Mar-2003 17:20 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables How are you combining your tables? Susan H. What I'm finding (and I can't believe I never hit this before) is that although the SQL tables can be updated through the Access FE, and the local tables can be updated, combine them and wallop, not updateable. 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URL: From harkins at iglou.com Tue Apr 1 10:18:53 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 11:18:53 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables References: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C83188039566AC@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk> Message-ID: <016801c2f86a$6502a850$e8e6ffcc@SusanOne> MessageRoz, if all else fails, create quick form based on the query and set the form's Inconsistent Update property to force updates on both sides of the query -- it probably isn't the solution you'll want to use in the end, but enter some test changes and new data and then see what it looks like -- in the tables -- the results could help you pinpoint the problem. Susan H. No blank record, all fields locked. It wouldn't surprise me if this is just a 'feature'. R. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: 01 April 2003 16:25 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Well, when you say "combine" -- I think of append or UNION. Relationships "join" records -- nothing wrong with the way you siad it -- I just thought I'd check to make sure. So here's the next question -- how do you know it's not updateable? Are you getting an error message? Is there a blank (new) record at the bottom of the query in Datasheet View? Susan H. Standard left outer join on staff ID - is there another way?! *bangs head on desk* R. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: 31-Mar-2003 17:20 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables How are you combining your tables? Susan H. 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URL: From harkins at iglou.com Tue Apr 1 10:19:53 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 11:19:53 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] VBE References: Message-ID: <017001c2f86a$88e29e10$e8e6ffcc@SusanOne> Drew, when you visit Disneyworld, you can ride dozens of rides, but none of them are the same -- even though you're still in Disneyworld. :) Susan H. > I know that, Drew. The point is that the object model is entirely > different, so aren't writing the same code at all, regardless of which > VBE you use. > > Charlotte Foust From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Tue Apr 1 10:30:23 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 10:30:23 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Acc 2000: Can Grow Within Column not working Message-ID: Bari, I don't know. But one way to find out is to change it to one column, while leaving everything else the same, and see what happens. If it then works correctly, then it is the two columns that causes the problem. If you still have the problem, then the two columns is not causing the problem and you need to continue your search for the source of the problem. Let us know the results. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Allen, Bari [mailto:bari at sos.state.ga.us] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 01 09:51 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Acc 2000: Can Grow Within Column not working I understand that, but in this case, there is only one field in the entire section, and both the field AND sections are set to yes for both CanShrink and CanGrow. I'm wondering if the columns are somehow throwing it off, and if there's some kind of fix for it. -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:03 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Acc 2000: Can Grow Within Column not working Bari, It can only grow until it hits another field below it. Thus, if you have another control (line, text box, etc.) defined below it, that puts a limit on how far it can grow. Charles Wortz -----Original Message----- From: Allen, Bari [mailto:bari at sos.state.ga.us] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 01 07:43 To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Acc 2000: Can Grow Within Column not working I have "Can Grow" set to yes, for both the section, and the field, within a 2-column (Down, then across) report. For some reason, when the field length extends the printed area of the column, it simply truncates, and does not wrap. Does anyone know how to solve this? Thanks in advance for your help. Bari From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Tue Apr 1 10:32:29 2003 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 17:32:29 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Reports - No Data In-Reply-To: <00b201c2f84d$fdac6860$b274d0d5@andypc> Message-ID: <00d601c2f86c$49feffc0$b274d0d5@andypc> :-) sorry Gustav. I was way too slow. Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey > Sent: 01 April 2003 13:56 > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reports - No Data > > > ? But if you don't trap it you get an error 2501 (user > cancelled) - don't you????? Or am I dreaming? > > Andy Lacey > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > > Gustav Brock > > Sent: 01 April 2003 12:47 > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Reports - No Data > > > > > > Hi Andy > > > > I like John too - even without calling error routines. > > > > (OK - I promise, I'll stop now. Next stop Friday.) > > > > /gustav > > > > > > > FWIW I do like you John, using the calling routines OnError .. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd > > Website: > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com Tue Apr 1 10:37:12 2003 From: jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 11:37:12 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables In-Reply-To: <014b01c2f86a$078fc680$e8e6ffcc@SusanOne> Message-ID: MessageSusan, That is a nice little synopsis. Thanks, John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 11:16 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Roz, not all queries are updateable. Here are some general rules: A query based on a single table is updateable if: The query contains no aggregate functions or refers to a query that contains an aggregate function. The query's Unique Values property is set to No. The query doesn't include a GROUP BY clause. A multi-table query with a one to one relationship is updateable provided all of the above conditions are true. A multi-table query with a one to many relationship is updateable on both sides as long as you don't violate referential integrity rules, and provided the above conditions are true. Try adding the foreign key value to the query -- did I read where you'd tried that? If that's the case, check referential integrity -- if it's enabled, also enable the cascade updates between the two tables. Keep in mind that the following aren't updateable, regardless: Crosstab, pass-through, and UNION (that's why I asked for the clarification about the word combine), multi-table queries based on three or more tabls in a many to one to many relationship, Totals view. Hope something there helps. Susan H. ----- Original Message ----- From: Roz Clarke To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:52 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables No blank record, all fields locked. It wouldn't surprise me if this is just a 'feature'. R. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: 01 April 2003 16:25 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Well, when you say "combine" -- I think of append or UNION. Relationships "join" records -- nothing wrong with the way you siad it -- I just thought I'd check to make sure. So here's the next question -- how do you know it's not updateable? Are you getting an error message? Is there a blank (new) record at the bottom of the query in Datasheet View? Susan H. Standard left outer join on staff ID - is there another way?! *bangs head on desk* R. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: 31-Mar-2003 17:20 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables How are you combining your tables? Susan H. What I'm finding (and I can't believe I never hit this before) is that although the SQL tables can be updated through the Access FE, and the local tables can be updated, combine them and wallop, not updateable. Even if all the key fields are included in the query. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. 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The point is that the object model is entirely > different, so aren't writing the same code at all, regardless of which > VBE you use. > > Charlotte Foust _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From JRojas at tnco-inc.com Tue Apr 1 11:19:54 2003 From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 12:19:54 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Enterprise Manager (SS7) and MSDE 2000 Message-ID: <806536912C472E4A9D6515DF2E57261E0C5958@mercury.tnco-inc.com> Hi All, I have both MSDE 2000 and Enterprise Manager (SQL Server 7) installed on my PC. I have the EM install for remote administration of our SQL7 Server. I was able to register the MSDE 2000 with the EM and am able to view the DB. I was just wondering if anyone knew of any problems that may occur with using SS7's EM with MSDE 2K? I know this is a pretty vague question... I guess I am really looking for someone to say, "Ya, I am doing the same thing and everything is working well." Thanks, Joe Rojas jrojas at tnco-inc.com This electronic transmission is strictly confidential to TNCO, Inc. and intended solely for the addressee. It may contain information which is covered by legal, professional, or other privileges. If you are not the intended addressee, or someone authorized by the intended addressee to receive transmissions on behalf of the addressee, you must not retain, disclose in any form, copy, or take any action in reliance on this transmission. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender as soon as possible and destroy this message. While TNCO, Inc. uses virus protection, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. TNCO, Inc. accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Tue Apr 1 11:26:39 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 11:26:39 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Enterprise Manager (SS7) and MSDE 2000 Message-ID: Joe, Although you may get an answer on this list, a more appropriate list for this type of question is the dba-SQLServer list also run by databaseadvisors.com. Go to their website, URL at end of this message, and sign up for it. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Joe Rojas [mailto:JRojas at tnco-inc.com] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 01 11:20 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: [AccessD] OT: Enterprise Manager (SS7) and MSDE 2000 Hi All, I have both MSDE 2000 and Enterprise Manager (SQL Server 7) installed on my PC. I have the EM install for remote administration of our SQL7 Server. I was able to register the MSDE 2000 with the EM and am able to view the DB. I was just wondering if anyone knew of any problems that may occur with using SS7's EM with MSDE 2K? I know this is a pretty vague question... I guess I am really looking for someone to say, "Ya, I am doing the same thing and everything is working well." Thanks, Joe Rojas jrojas at tnco-inc.com Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From harkins at iglou.com Tue Apr 1 11:50:34 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 12:50:34 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] VBE References: Message-ID: <002501c2f877$3787d280$1a4afccc@SusanOne> Well, I find rabbit tracks around my computer all the time, so why not? :) Susan H. > Susan, > > Are you suggesting that someone on this list writes Mickey Mouse code?? > > From jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com Tue Apr 1 12:05:55 2003 From: jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com (jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 12:05:55 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] A97 - Application Error Message-ID: Hello everyone, First I would like to thank all of you who have responded to my questions over the past couple weeks concerning ADO. It has been very helpful. However now I have an A97 question. When trying to open a form in A97 the following error message appears (open in normally, design view, or trying to delete it): Anyone have any ideas of why this might be happening or any suggestions to fix it. I have already done a repair of the db, a compact, and a compile of it. TIA. -Jeff -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 3982 bytes Desc: not available URL: From JRojas at tnco-inc.com Tue Apr 1 12:17:16 2003 From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 13:17:16 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Enterprise Manager (SS7) and MSDE 2000 Message-ID: <806536912C472E4A9D6515DF2E57261E0C5959@mercury.tnco-inc.com> Oops, I didn't even think about that. Sorry. AccessD is my primary list, and although I read dba-SQLServer, I do not post to it much. My mistake. Thanks, Joe Rojas -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 12:27 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Enterprise Manager (SS7) and MSDE 2000 Joe, Although you may get an answer on this list, a more appropriate list for this type of question is the dba-SQLServer list also run by databaseadvisors.com. Go to their website, URL at end of this message, and sign up for it. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Joe Rojas [mailto:JRojas at tnco-inc.com] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 01 11:20 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: [AccessD] OT: Enterprise Manager (SS7) and MSDE 2000 Hi All, I have both MSDE 2000 and Enterprise Manager (SQL Server 7) installed on my PC. I have the EM install for remote administration of our SQL7 Server. I was able to register the MSDE 2000 with the EM and am able to view the DB. I was just wondering if anyone knew of any problems that may occur with using SS7's EM with MSDE 2K? I know this is a pretty vague question... I guess I am really looking for someone to say, "Ya, I am doing the same thing and everything is working well." Thanks, Joe Rojas jrojas at tnco-inc.com Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This electronic transmission is strictly confidential to TNCO, Inc. and intended solely for the addressee. It may contain information which is covered by legal, professional, or other privileges. 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URL: From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Tue Apr 1 12:30:30 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 12:30:30 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Acc 2000: Can Grow Within Column not working Message-ID: You are welcome. I am sending your reply to the list so the archives will be complete. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Allen, Bari [mailto:bari at sos.state.ga.us] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 01 12:25 To: Wortz, Charles Subject: RE: [AccessD] Acc 2000: Can Grow Within Column not working Thanks. When I went to look at the single-column format, I realized that my column width (and fields) were set too wide to fit within the given margins & space between, thus the problem. I appreciate your help :) -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 11:30 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Acc 2000: Can Grow Within Column not working Bari, I don't know. But one way to find out is to change it to one column, while leaving everything else the same, and see what happens. If it then works correctly, then it is the two columns that causes the problem. If you still have the problem, then the two columns is not causing the problem and you need to continue your search for the source of the problem. Let us know the results. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Allen, Bari [mailto:bari at sos.state.ga.us] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 01 09:51 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Acc 2000: Can Grow Within Column not working I understand that, but in this case, there is only one field in the entire section, and both the field AND sections are set to yes for both CanShrink and CanGrow. I'm wondering if the columns are somehow throwing it off, and if there's some kind of fix for it. -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:03 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Acc 2000: Can Grow Within Column not working Bari, It can only grow until it hits another field below it. Thus, if you have another control (line, text box, etc.) defined below it, that puts a limit on how far it can grow. Charles Wortz -----Original Message----- From: Allen, Bari [mailto:bari at sos.state.ga.us] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 01 07:43 To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Acc 2000: Can Grow Within Column not working I have "Can Grow" set to yes, for both the section, and the field, within a 2-column (Down, then across) report. For some reason, when the field length extends the printed area of the column, it simply truncates, and does not wrap. Does anyone know how to solve this? Thanks in advance for your help. Bari _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From michael.mattys at adelphia.net Tue Apr 1 12:43:53 2003 From: michael.mattys at adelphia.net (Michael R Mattys) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 13:43:53 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] GoToPage Errors (Access 97 and 2002) References: Message-ID: <00cb01c2f87e$a92d20f0$6401a8c0@default> Charlotte, Help says to use Page.SetFocus Michael R. Mattys www.mattysconsulting.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlotte Foust" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:18 PM Subject: [AccessD] GoToPage Errors (Access 97 and 2002) I know I've used GoToPage in the past to specify the page of a form or subform with pagebreaks, but for some reason it isn't working and I can't find anything in the MSKB or anywhere else I've looked. Does anyone have any ideas? Even though there are two page breaks (3 pages), the only GoToPage it handles is for page 1! I've tried both the Object.GotToPage syntax and the DoCmd.GoToPage syntax with exactly the same results, and I'm tearing my hair out! Charlotte Foust ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Apr 1 12:58:48 2003 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD)) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 10:58:48 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] A97 - Application Error In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Jeff: I would suggest that it is time to create a new clean MDB file and move all the contents across except for the offending Form. This sounds like internal corruption problem to me. HTH Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:06 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] A97 - Application Error Hello everyone, First I would like to thank all of you who have responded to my questions over the past couple weeks concerning ADO. It has been very helpful. However now I have an A97 question. When trying to open a form in A97 the following error message appears (open in normally, design view, or trying to delete it): Anyone have any ideas of why this might be happening or any suggestions to fix it. I have already done a repair of the db, a compact, and a compile of it. TIA. -Jeff -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Mattys www.mattysconsulting.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlotte Foust" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:18 PM Subject: [AccessD] GoToPage Errors (Access 97 and 2002) I know I've used GoToPage in the past to specify the page of a form or subform with pagebreaks, but for some reason it isn't working and I can't find anything in the MSKB or anywhere else I've looked. Does anyone have any ideas? Even though there are two page breaks (3 pages), the only GoToPage it handles is for page 1! I've tried both the Object.GotToPage syntax and the DoCmd.GoToPage syntax with exactly the same results, and I'm tearing my hair out! 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URL: From mitsules_ms at nns.com Tue Apr 1 13:09:37 2003 From: mitsules_ms at nns.com (Mitsules, Mark) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 14:09:37 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Hiatus Interuptus Message-ID: Group, It's been quite nearly a year since I last posted to this list. I won't go into the boring details, but I'm glad to be back. I hope I can help out. Thanks in advance for my inevitable questions to come. Mark Mitsules Senior Designer Submarine Electrical Engineering Northrop Grumman Newport News 757.380.3376 From JRojas at tnco-inc.com Tue Apr 1 13:22:10 2003 From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 14:22:10 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] A2K Reports - Getting group count in group header Message-ID: <806536912C472E4A9D6515DF2E57261E0C595C@mercury.tnco-inc.com> Hello All, How can I go about getting the group count to display in the group header? I have a report that is grouped by employee with the detail section displaying all the records for that employee and I would like to have the number of records for that employee displayed next to the employee's name in the group header. Thanks, Joe Rojas This electronic transmission is strictly confidential to TNCO, Inc. and intended solely for the addressee. It may contain information which is covered by legal, professional, or other privileges. If you are not the intended addressee, or someone authorized by the intended addressee to receive transmissions on behalf of the addressee, you must not retain, disclose in any form, copy, or take any action in reliance on this transmission. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender as soon as possible and destroy this message. While TNCO, Inc. uses virus protection, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. TNCO, Inc. accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Tue Apr 1 13:18:22 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 13:18:22 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Hiatus Interuptus Message-ID: Mark, Been out test driving one of your submarines for the last year? Welcome back to terra firma. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Mitsules, Mark [mailto:mitsules_ms at nns.com] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 01 13:10 To: 'AccessD' Subject: [AccessD] Hiatus Interuptus Group, It's been quite nearly a year since I last posted to this list. I won't go into the boring details, but I'm glad to be back. I hope I can help out. Thanks in advance for my inevitable questions to come. Mark Mitsules Senior Designer Submarine Electrical Engineering Northrop Grumman Newport News 757.380.3376 From michael.mattys at adelphia.net Tue Apr 1 13:20:27 2003 From: michael.mattys at adelphia.net (Michael R Mattys) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 14:20:27 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] GoToPage Errors (Access 97 and 2002) References: Message-ID: <00e601c2f883$c8b9a8d0$6401a8c0@default> Oh Sorry Only other thing I saw was this: A page break is active in Form view only when the DefaultView property of the form is set to Single Form Michael R. Mattys www.mattysconsulting.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlotte Foust" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 2:01 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] GoToPage Errors (Access 97 and 2002) > That's for tab control pages, not form pages. GoToPage is *supposed* to > move to the virtual page created by page breaks on the form or report. > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael R Mattys [mailto:michael.mattys at adelphia.net] > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:44 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] GoToPage Errors (Access 97 and 2002) > > > Charlotte, > > Help says to use Page.SetFocus > > Michael R. Mattys > www.mattysconsulting.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charlotte Foust" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:18 PM > Subject: [AccessD] GoToPage Errors (Access 97 and 2002) > > > I know I've used GoToPage in the past to specify the page of a form or > subform with pagebreaks, but for some reason it isn't working and I > can't find anything in the MSKB or anywhere else I've looked. Does > anyone have any ideas? Even though there are two page breaks (3 pages), > the only GoToPage it handles is for page 1! I've tried both > the Object.GotToPage syntax and the DoCmd.GoToPage syntax with exactly > the same results, and I'm tearing my hair out! > > Charlotte Foust > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ---- > ---- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mitsules_ms at nns.com Tue Apr 1 13:22:48 2003 From: mitsules_ms at nns.com (Mitsules, Mark) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 14:22:48 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Hiatus Interuptus Message-ID: Charles, Had to come back in to replace the rusty screen doors...;) Mark -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 2:18 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Hiatus Interuptus Mark, Been out test driving one of your submarines for the last year? Welcome back to terra firma. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Mitsules, Mark [mailto:mitsules_ms at nns.com] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 01 13:10 To: 'AccessD' Subject: [AccessD] Hiatus Interuptus Group, It's been quite nearly a year since I last posted to this list. I won't go into the boring details, but I'm glad to be back. I hope I can help out. Thanks in advance for my inevitable questions to come. Mark Mitsules Senior Designer Submarine Electrical Engineering Northrop Grumman Newport News 757.380.3376 _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mitsules_ms at nns.com Tue Apr 1 13:33:09 2003 From: mitsules_ms at nns.com (Mitsules, Mark) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 14:33:09 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] A2K Reports - Getting group count in group header Message-ID: Joe, For a particular header, I believe =Count(*) should work. Mark -----Original Message----- From: Joe Rojas [mailto:JRojas at tnco-inc.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 2:22 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: [AccessD] A2K Reports - Getting group count in group header Hello All, How can I go about getting the group count to display in the group header? I have a report that is grouped by employee with the detail section displaying all the records for that employee and I would like to have the number of records for that employee displayed next to the employee's name in the group header. Thanks, Joe Rojas This electronic transmission is strictly confidential to TNCO, Inc. and intended solely for the addressee. It may contain information which is covered by legal, professional, or other privileges. If you are not the intended addressee, or someone authorized by the intended addressee to receive transmissions on behalf of the addressee, you must not retain, disclose in any form, copy, or take any action in reliance on this transmission. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender as soon as possible and destroy this message. While TNCO, Inc. uses virus protection, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. TNCO, Inc. accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From artful at rogers.com Tue Apr 1 13:37:51 2003 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 14:37:51 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] VBE In-Reply-To: <017001c2f86a$88e29e10$e8e6ffcc@SusanOne> Message-ID: <025401c2f886$2ed7dcc0$8e01a8c0@Rock> No, Susan. The ephemera differ, but they all attempt to disorient you with centrifugal v. centriptal force and similar Physics 101 techniques, so as soon as you understand centrifugal v. centripital you have everything you need. Granted there are different objects in different hierarchies but so what? That's no deeper than different tables in the same database. That's IMO what Drew was suggesting, and IMO he is entirely correct. As opposed, for example, to taking some VBA code from whatever target you choose and porting it to Java or Python. "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." -- Benjamin Franklin -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: April 1, 2003 11:20 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBE Drew, when you visit Disneyworld, you can ride dozens of rides, but none of them are the same -- even though you're still in Disneyworld. :) Susan H. > I know that, Drew. The point is that the object model is entirely > different, so aren't writing the same code at all, regardless of which > VBE you use. > > Charlotte Foust From artful at rogers.com Tue Apr 1 13:42:50 2003 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 14:42:50 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs DAO -- rattling cages In-Reply-To: <3E89E1EB.7050107@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <025d01c2f886$e130e7e0$8e01a8c0@Rock> Not to dispute your reasoning from days of yore, but somehow I cannot believe that _anything_ is faster than direct calls to the server. Going through layers of DAO etc. or even the WinAPI has got to be slower than punching the server. Otherwise layers are insignificant, in which case the corollary may be that the more layers the better... and I just can't see my way to that conclusion. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly Sent: April 1, 2003 2:01 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL vs DAO -- rattling cages I have heard of a faster way especially for Bulk ADDs or DELETE's, with about a 5 to 1 increase in speed in certain cases, using ODBC API driver calls directly and turning SQL_AUTOCOMMIT off. using : Declare Function SQLSetConnectOption Lib "odbc32.dll" (ByVal hDbc As Long, ByVal fOption As Integer, ByVal vParam As Long) As Integer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mark Mitsules Senior Designer Submarine Electrical Engineering Northrop Grumman Newport News 757.380.3376 _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Tue Apr 1 13:46:23 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 13:46:23 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] VBE Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82545@main2.marlow.com> Ooops, I meant multiple monitors. I have 3. (At home I have 2, so that would be dual monitors.) Drew -----Original Message----- From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 5:40 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBE Hi Drew > I have dual monitors, and I like have VB 6 in one screen, Access (97) in > another, and my HTML editor in the last. That's handy. That makes three monitors. Or is the first and last one the same? Or would one monitor be identical with another and not the last? Or ... ... gasp. /gustav _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Jdemarco at hshhp.org Tue Apr 1 13:49:46 2003 From: Jdemarco at hshhp.org (Jim DeMarco) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 14:49:46 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Hiatus Interuptus Message-ID: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F99D8577D@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com> If I were a Marine I'd say submarine is every other branch of the military ;-) Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 2:45 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Hiatus Interuptus Is a submarine some sort of training status for actual genuine marines? :-) "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." -- Benjamin Franklin -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark Sent: April 1, 2003 2:10 PM To: 'AccessD' Subject: [AccessD] Hiatus Interuptus Group, It's been quite nearly a year since I last posted to this list. I won't go into the boring details, but I'm glad to be back. I hope I can help out. Thanks in advance for my inevitable questions to come. Mark Mitsules Senior Designer Submarine Electrical Engineering Northrop Grumman Newport News 757.380.3376 _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com *********************************************************************************** "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from HealthSource/Hudson Health Plan (HS/HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HS/HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank You". *********************************************************************************** From DWUTKA at marlow.com Tue Apr 1 13:51:52 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 13:51:52 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Search archives: was Access 97 - Numeric field over flow Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82546@main2.marlow.com> What's the page you are trying this from? (So I can take a look at it.) Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 6:58 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search archives: was Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Drew, All this does is load your search page with no values loaded. Should it load the value passed in "SearchString" and/or perform the search too (just curious)? Thanks, Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:48 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Okay, here's what you should have: Search:
The IP Address you have was with my old ISP. Just use the domain name. (Right now, going to www.wolfwares.com will swap to an IP Address in your browser (trying to get that fixed....), but the path works fine. Also, you want the method to be Post, so it sends the information through as a form. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 5:27 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Drew: Yes I am... here is the code fragment from the search Form tag: ...
... You should be able to receive and manage the query string variable 'SearchString'. There might be so other issues but this is the sending syntax. I have never had a chance to actually test the process of transferring a query string to a remote site but this is the setting as read. HTH Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:04 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Actually Jim, are you putting this into an HTML form? If so, can you just name the 'search' button 'Search', with a value of 'Search', and then the 'textbox' name as SearchString (as you have it). Right now, my ASP page looks for that value for the submit button, to do the search. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 4:28 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Hi Drew: I was not trying to imply you should get on to the archive issue. I was just stating an observation. While we are on the subject, could you set your index page to check for an incoming query strings, named 'SearchString'; I think it is variable name you use. If the value is null, display normally else, fill SearchString variable from the contents of the received query string 'SearchString' and process the search. I guess the content/memo field should be the default field for searching? What do you think? This will/should only be a short-term fix until a more permanent home for the archive can be found. Thank you so much for all your work and effort. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 1:51 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Okay, the archive will be fully available sometime very early Wednesday morning. I was working on writing the new ASP interface (well, the code behind it), and discovered that my indexer was chopping off the last letter of each word it was indexing. Long story. So after fixing that bug, I had to re-index the Memo fields. At 2 pm today, it had indexed 10,000 records (a little more...but close enough), and I 'restarted' the indexer last night at 3 am. So in about 11 hours it did 10,000, there are about 40,000 records in the database, so it's going to be about 33 hours from 2 this afternoon. (Also, the searching is there, just not totally complete....it'll take me a few hours to finish up the pages themselves, probably do that tonight) Drew > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:22 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > John: From someone on this list...need the archive. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 12:28 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > Nope, just starting to append records. And where did you get 65K > records maximum? > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 1:47 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > Hi John: > > You have not exceeded the maximum of 65000 records by any chance? > > Just a thought > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:09 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > In fact I was just appending the same data twice. I have a unique > index on a combination of fields that should prevent the data from going > in a second time. This was just a test of that index to make sure the > data would not go in again. > > In fact though the user may end up importing several different > files, one after another. The entire process is to ask the user to find > the file, copy it to a specific file name in a specific directory so that > the link works correctly, copy the original to a backup directory, then > run the append queries to get the data out of the spreadsheets and into > the table. From there a "all records in the previous" and "all records > NOT in the previous" will be run for reporting purposes. > > It shouldn't matter what I am doing though. If it runs once, it > should run a million times. It may very well come back and say "X records > could not be appended..." because of the unique index, but it should NOT > give me this "numeric overflow" error. According to help that means that > "the data is too big for a btrieve field" or some such. IOW, one of those > useless error messages. The fact that the data actually imports makes it > even more suspicious. > > I just don't want to send out work that pops up useless error > messages and has to be exited and reloaded in order to work. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Wortz, > Charles > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 11:11 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > > JC, > > You got me confused when you say "The append process works the first > time it is run, then the second time, I get a Numeric Overflow." > What > are you doing the second time? Appending the same data to the same > records, or appending some other data to some other records, or > what? > > Charles Wortz > Software Development Division > Texas Education Agency > 1701 N. Congress Ave > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > 512-463-9493 > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com] > Sent: Monday 2003 Mar 31 10:01 > To: AccessD > Subject: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > Guys, > > It's been awhile since I have dealt with A97. I am doing an import > of > data from excel spreadsheets. The data in the spreadsheet is a dbl > datatype, but is really a long int, i.e. no decimal points. I am > linking the spreadsheet, whereupon I see that the datatype of the > field > is dbl. I build a base query that runs these fields through a > clng() to > convert them to long integers. I then append the data into a table. > The append process works the first time it is run, then the second > time, > I get a Numeric Overflow. I get the overflow between the "you are > about > to..." warning and the "X records did not append..." error. In fact > that second error never occurs. Once the error occurs, I have to > shut > down the db and re-open it, whereupon the query will run > successfully > one time, then the error again. > > I am at SP2 for A97, and I don't remember what the latest SP is for > A97. > > Has anyone ever seen this problem? > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. > Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com << File: ATT00050.txt >> << > File: ATT00097.txt >> > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Is email taking over your day? 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Thank You". **************************************************************************** ******* _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Tue Apr 1 13:52:27 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 13:52:27 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs DAO -- rattling cages Message-ID: Arthur, M$ must believe it, since their mantra is to add layers of connections. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 01 13:43 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] SQL vs DAO -- rattling cages Not to dispute your reasoning from days of yore, but somehow I cannot believe that _anything_ is faster than direct calls to the server. Going through layers of DAO etc. or even the WinAPI has got to be slower than punching the server. Otherwise layers are insignificant, in which case the corollary may be that the more layers the better... and I just can't see my way to that conclusion. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly Sent: April 1, 2003 2:01 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL vs DAO -- rattling cages I have heard of a faster way especially for Bulk ADDs or DELETE's, with about a 5 to 1 increase in speed in certain cases, using ODBC API driver calls directly and turning SQL_AUTOCOMMIT off. using : Declare Function SQLSetConnectOption Lib "odbc32.dll" (ByVal hDbc As Long, ByVal fOption As Integer, ByVal vParam As Long) As Integer From mitsules_ms at nns.com Tue Apr 1 13:57:34 2003 From: mitsules_ms at nns.com (Mitsules, Mark) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 14:57:34 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Hiatus Interuptus Message-ID: Well...a submarine IS beneath a marine (literally) considering that the Navy has to give them a ride everywhere they go...;) Mark -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 2:45 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Hiatus Interuptus Is a submarine some sort of training status for actual genuine marines? :-) "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." -- Benjamin Franklin -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark Sent: April 1, 2003 2:10 PM To: 'AccessD' Subject: [AccessD] Hiatus Interuptus Group, It's been quite nearly a year since I last posted to this list. I won't go into the boring details, but I'm glad to be back. I hope I can help out. Thanks in advance for my inevitable questions to come. Mark Mitsules Senior Designer Submarine Electrical Engineering Northrop Grumman Newport News 757.380.3376 _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Tue Apr 1 13:59:24 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 13:59:24 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] VBE Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82547@main2.marlow.com> I still disagree with you on this Charlotte. If you are in Access, Excel, or Word, and you write this: Dim strTemp As String strTemp="Hello" msgbox InStr(1,strTemp,"l") You are going to get a message box that says '3' no matter what Office program you are in. Now, when you are in Access, and you write: DoCmd.Quit Yes, that code only works in Access 'as is'. But that is because you want to have the object model of the application you are running, already loaded, and acting as a 'default'.....wouldn't you? The reason I am being so adament/argumentative on this thread, is because I feel it is FAR more important to understand the principles of programming in VB/VBA (or whatever language you choose), then it is to understand the details of the object model you are in. By that, I mean that once you have learned what events are, how functions and subs work, how a class module works, etc. You have the understanding of VB/VBA, which is universal no matter what you are in for a development tool. I hardly ever write code within Excel, and I have only written code within Word once, but I had/have no problem doing so, because the language and principles are the same, it is only a matter of finding what properties and methods are available for the current object model, and what special objects I will be dealing with. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:07 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE I know that, Drew. The point is that the object model is entirely different, so aren't writing the same code at all, regardless of which VBE you use. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:48 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE Actually, you're still using VBA. The language is still the same. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 7:47 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE But when you program Word from within Access, you still have to use the Word object model. You aren't programming Access, you're programming Word. It isn't the same thing at all. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 4:58 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE It is the same, you just have a different 'default' object. You can program stuff for Word within Access, and Access within Word, right? Drew -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:45 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE That's like saying that programming Word and Access is the same, you just have a different object model to deal with! Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 2:23 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE The language is almost identical, you just have a different object model to deal with. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 4:07 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE To learn what in, Drew? Access VBA programming isn't the same as VB anyhow. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 1:46 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE I think the VB 6.0 'look' in A2k and up feels funny in Access because it appears to 'seperate' the code from the objects. In VB 6.0 itself, you work on the VB forms in the same environment, so there is no disconnect. Same with Access 97. However, in A2k and up, you have this 'split', where the code is worked on 'seperately'. Personally I think it's a bad environment to learn in. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:00 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE I thought it was just me. Love the IDE in VB 6.0 but feels weird in Access! Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:57 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE Me too. In fact, when I started using VB 6.0, and was presented with an interface slightly different from what I was used to in Access 97, it took a little to get used too, but I learned to like VB 6.0's VBE. However, when I then started messing with Access 2000, I found that I didn't like that same 'VBE' style in Access....I prefered the way Access 97 handled things. One thing that I love being able to do in Access 97, is to have a form open, with it's code page just beneath it. Let's you edit or run your code without having to flip flop windows. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 2:35 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE I always called it Nice! Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 2:13 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE Really? I would consider the code environment in 97 to be a VBE. You get VB like menus, it is a VB environment. Sure, it doesn't show up exactly like VB, but I have always called it the VBE. Just curious, have I been wrong all this time, and if so, what do you call the VB environment in 97? Drew > -----Original Message----- > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com] > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 8:13 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > 2k > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan > Harkins > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 8:51 PM > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] VBE > > > Did the VBE first show up in 97 or 2000? > > Susan H. > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. 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I've found ODBC connections to be very slow. Once in an ADP, start making sprocs do all the work. You can make sprocs very efficient and then your application will be at lightening speed. --Susan -----Original Message----- From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 12:03 PM To: AccessD (E-mail) Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL We had an app (mdb FE/mdb BE) that was performing horribly across a WAN. We moved the BE into SQL Server 2K which helped a bit but I'm wondering if converting the FE to an ADP would do this one step better (this after reading Arthur's excellent article on TechRepublic.com, thanks to Francisco for the pointer). Anyone have an idea? Thanks, Jim DeMarco Director of Product Development HealthSource/Hudson Health Plan ************************************************************************ *********** "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from HealthSource/Hudson Health Plan (HS/HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HS/HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. 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Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 2:52 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search archives: was Access 97 - Numeric field overflow What's the page you are trying this from? (So I can take a look at it.) Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 6:58 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search archives: was Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Drew, All this does is load your search page with no values loaded. Should it load the value passed in "SearchString" and/or perform the search too (just curious)? Thanks, Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:48 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Okay, here's what you should have: Search:
The IP Address you have was with my old ISP. Just use the domain name. (Right now, going to www.wolfwares.com will swap to an IP Address in your browser (trying to get that fixed....), but the path works fine. Also, you want the method to be Post, so it sends the information through as a form. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 5:27 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Drew: Yes I am... here is the code fragment from the search Form tag: ...
... You should be able to receive and manage the query string variable 'SearchString'. There might be so other issues but this is the sending syntax. I have never had a chance to actually test the process of transferring a query string to a remote site but this is the setting as read. HTH Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:04 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Actually Jim, are you putting this into an HTML form? If so, can you just name the 'search' button 'Search', with a value of 'Search', and then the 'textbox' name as SearchString (as you have it). Right now, my ASP page looks for that value for the submit button, to do the search. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 4:28 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Hi Drew: I was not trying to imply you should get on to the archive issue. I was just stating an observation. While we are on the subject, could you set your index page to check for an incoming query strings, named 'SearchString'; I think it is variable name you use. If the value is null, display normally else, fill SearchString variable from the contents of the received query string 'SearchString' and process the search. I guess the content/memo field should be the default field for searching? What do you think? This will/should only be a short-term fix until a more permanent home for the archive can be found. Thank you so much for all your work and effort. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 1:51 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Okay, the archive will be fully available sometime very early Wednesday morning. I was working on writing the new ASP interface (well, the code behind it), and discovered that my indexer was chopping off the last letter of each word it was indexing. Long story. So after fixing that bug, I had to re-index the Memo fields. At 2 pm today, it had indexed 10,000 records (a little more...but close enough), and I 'restarted' the indexer last night at 3 am. So in about 11 hours it did 10,000, there are about 40,000 records in the database, so it's going to be about 33 hours from 2 this afternoon. (Also, the searching is there, just not totally complete....it'll take me a few hours to finish up the pages themselves, probably do that tonight) Drew > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:22 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > John: From someone on this list...need the archive. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 12:28 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > Nope, just starting to append records. And where did you get 65K > records maximum? > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 1:47 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > Hi John: > > You have not exceeded the maximum of 65000 records by any chance? > > Just a thought > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:09 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > In fact I was just appending the same data twice. I have a unique > index on a combination of fields that should prevent the data from going > in a second time. This was just a test of that index to make sure the > data would not go in again. > > In fact though the user may end up importing several different > files, one after another. The entire process is to ask the user to find > the file, copy it to a specific file name in a specific directory so that > the link works correctly, copy the original to a backup directory, then > run the append queries to get the data out of the spreadsheets and into > the table. From there a "all records in the previous" and "all records > NOT in the previous" will be run for reporting purposes. > > It shouldn't matter what I am doing though. If it runs once, it > should run a million times. It may very well come back and say "X records > could not be appended..." because of the unique index, but it should NOT > give me this "numeric overflow" error. According to help that means that > "the data is too big for a btrieve field" or some such. IOW, one of those > useless error messages. The fact that the data actually imports makes it > even more suspicious. > > I just don't want to send out work that pops up useless error > messages and has to be exited and reloaded in order to work. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Wortz, > Charles > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 11:11 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > > JC, > > You got me confused when you say "The append process works the first > time it is run, then the second time, I get a Numeric Overflow." > What > are you doing the second time? Appending the same data to the same > records, or appending some other data to some other records, or > what? > > Charles Wortz > Software Development Division > Texas Education Agency > 1701 N. Congress Ave > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > 512-463-9493 > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com] > Sent: Monday 2003 Mar 31 10:01 > To: AccessD > Subject: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > Guys, > > It's been awhile since I have dealt with A97. I am doing an import > of > data from excel spreadsheets. The data in the spreadsheet is a dbl > datatype, but is really a long int, i.e. no decimal points. I am > linking the spreadsheet, whereupon I see that the datatype of the > field > is dbl. I build a base query that runs these fields through a > clng() to > convert them to long integers. I then append the data into a table. > The append process works the first time it is run, then the second > time, > I get a Numeric Overflow. I get the overflow between the "you are > about > to..." warning and the "X records did not append..." error. In fact > that second error never occurs. Once the error occurs, I have to > shut > down the db and re-open it, whereupon the query will run > successfully > one time, then the error again. > > I am at SP2 for A97, and I don't remember what the latest SP is for > A97. > > Has anyone ever seen this problem? > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. > Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com << File: ATT00050.txt >> << > File: ATT00097.txt >> > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Is email taking over your day? 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Joe Rojas -----Original Message----- From: Mitsules, Mark [mailto:mitsules_ms at nns.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 2:33 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K Reports - Getting group count in group header Joe, For a particular header, I believe =Count(*) should work. Mark -----Original Message----- From: Joe Rojas [mailto:JRojas at tnco-inc.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 2:22 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: [AccessD] A2K Reports - Getting group count in group header Hello All, How can I go about getting the group count to display in the group header? I have a report that is grouped by employee with the detail section displaying all the records for that employee and I would like to have the number of records for that employee displayed next to the employee's name in the group header. Thanks, Joe Rojas This electronic transmission is strictly confidential to TNCO, Inc. and intended solely for the addressee. 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TNCO, Inc. accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This electronic transmission is strictly confidential to TNCO, Inc. and intended solely for the addressee. It may contain information which is covered by legal, professional, or other privileges. If you are not the intended addressee, or someone authorized by the intended addressee to receive transmissions on behalf of the addressee, you must not retain, disclose in any form, copy, or take any action in reliance on this transmission. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender as soon as possible and destroy this message. While TNCO, Inc. uses virus protection, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. TNCO, Inc. accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Tue Apr 1 14:18:12 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 12:18:12 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] VBE Message-ID: I understand how you feel, Drew. But my point is that just understanding generic VB/VBA programming is not going to get you anywhere at all when you need to understand the particular object model involved. You are dealing primarily with VB, not with the Access interface objects, so it's very easy for you to say how "similar" everything is. In fact, the object models for the interface objects are not similar at all. One handy example is the combobox in VB as opposed to the Access combobox. Sorry, Pal, but your argument doesn't hold water. :o} Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 11:59 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE I still disagree with you on this Charlotte. If you are in Access, Excel, or Word, and you write this: Dim strTemp As String strTemp="Hello" msgbox InStr(1,strTemp,"l") You are going to get a message box that says '3' no matter what Office program you are in. Now, when you are in Access, and you write: DoCmd.Quit Yes, that code only works in Access 'as is'. But that is because you want to have the object model of the application you are running, already loaded, and acting as a 'default'.....wouldn't you? The reason I am being so adament/argumentative on this thread, is because I feel it is FAR more important to understand the principles of programming in VB/VBA (or whatever language you choose), then it is to understand the details of the object model you are in. By that, I mean that once you have learned what events are, how functions and subs work, how a class module works, etc. You have the understanding of VB/VBA, which is universal no matter what you are in for a development tool. I hardly ever write code within Excel, and I have only written code within Word once, but I had/have no problem doing so, because the language and principles are the same, it is only a matter of finding what properties and methods are available for the current object model, and what special objects I will be dealing with. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:07 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE I know that, Drew. The point is that the object model is entirely different, so aren't writing the same code at all, regardless of which VBE you use. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:48 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE Actually, you're still using VBA. The language is still the same. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 7:47 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE But when you program Word from within Access, you still have to use the Word object model. You aren't programming Access, you're programming Word. It isn't the same thing at all. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 4:58 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE It is the same, you just have a different 'default' object. You can program stuff for Word within Access, and Access within Word, right? Drew -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:45 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE That's like saying that programming Word and Access is the same, you just have a different object model to deal with! Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 2:23 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE The language is almost identical, you just have a different object model to deal with. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 4:07 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE To learn what in, Drew? Access VBA programming isn't the same as VB anyhow. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 1:46 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE I think the VB 6.0 'look' in A2k and up feels funny in Access because it appears to 'seperate' the code from the objects. In VB 6.0 itself, you work on the VB forms in the same environment, so there is no disconnect. Same with Access 97. However, in A2k and up, you have this 'split', where the code is worked on 'seperately'. Personally I think it's a bad environment to learn in. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:00 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE I thought it was just me. Love the IDE in VB 6.0 but feels weird in Access! Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:57 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE Me too. In fact, when I started using VB 6.0, and was presented with an interface slightly different from what I was used to in Access 97, it took a little to get used too, but I learned to like VB 6.0's VBE. However, when I then started messing with Access 2000, I found that I didn't like that same 'VBE' style in Access....I prefered the way Access 97 handled things. One thing that I love being able to do in Access 97, is to have a form open, with it's code page just beneath it. Let's you edit or run your code without having to flip flop windows. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 2:35 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE I always called it Nice! Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 2:13 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE Really? I would consider the code environment in 97 to be a VBE. You get VB like menus, it is a VB environment. Sure, it doesn't show up exactly like VB, but I have always called it the VBE. Just curious, have I been wrong all this time, and if so, what do you call the VB environment in 97? Drew > -----Original Message----- > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com] > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 8:13 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > 2k > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan > Harkins > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 8:51 PM > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] VBE > > > Did the VBE first show up in 97 or 2000? > > Susan H. > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. 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No matter how wrong they may be. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 11:38 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE No, Susan. The ephemera differ, but they all attempt to disorient you with centrifugal v. centriptal force and similar Physics 101 techniques, so as soon as you understand centrifugal v. centripital you have everything you need. Granted there are different objects in different hierarchies but so what? That's no deeper than different tables in the same database. That's IMO what Drew was suggesting, and IMO he is entirely correct. As opposed, for example, to taking some VBA code from whatever target you choose and porting it to Java or Python. "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." -- Benjamin Franklin -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: April 1, 2003 11:20 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBE Drew, when you visit Disneyworld, you can ride dozens of rides, but none of them are the same -- even though you're still in Disneyworld. :) Susan H. > I know that, Drew. The point is that the object model is entirely > different, so aren't writing the same code at all, regardless of which > VBE you use. > > Charlotte Foust _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Tue Apr 1 14:22:12 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 12:22:12 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] GoToPage Errors (Access 97 and 2002) Message-ID: Yes, and I'm using single forms. There is no earthly reason for a pagebreak in a continuous form anyhow. I Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Michael R Mattys [mailto:michael.mattys at adelphia.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 11:20 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] GoToPage Errors (Access 97 and 2002) Oh Sorry Only other thing I saw was this: A page break is active in Form view only when the DefaultView property of the form is set to Single Form Michael R. Mattys www.mattysconsulting.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlotte Foust" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 2:01 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] GoToPage Errors (Access 97 and 2002) > That's for tab control pages, not form pages. GoToPage is *supposed* > to move to the virtual page created by page breaks on the form or > report. > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael R Mattys [mailto:michael.mattys at adelphia.net] > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:44 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] GoToPage Errors (Access 97 and 2002) > > > Charlotte, > > Help says to use Page.SetFocus > > Michael R. Mattys > www.mattysconsulting.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charlotte Foust" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:18 PM > Subject: [AccessD] GoToPage Errors (Access 97 and 2002) > > > I know I've used GoToPage in the past to specify the page of a form or > subform with pagebreaks, but for some reason it isn't working and I > can't find anything in the MSKB or anywhere else I've looked. Does > anyone have any ideas? Even though there are two page breaks (3 > pages), the only GoToPage it handles is for page 1! I've > tried both the Object.GotToPage syntax and the DoCmd.GoToPage syntax > with exactly the same results, and I'm tearing my hair out! > > Charlotte Foust > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > ---- > ---- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Tue Apr 1 14:22:22 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 14:22:22 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] VBE Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82548@main2.marlow.com> True, but VBA is not a theme park, nor is it a ride. Access is NOT Word, and Word is NOT Excel. With your analogy, the theme park would be the Office Suite. Each ride would be an individual applications (such as Word or Access), and VBA would be the forces involved that make the rides interesting (gravity, electricity, etc.) The forces are the same. Just like in VBA, you aren't using a different runtime for VBA in Access versus VBA in Excel right? You are just using a different default object model. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:20 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBE Drew, when you visit Disneyworld, you can ride dozens of rides, but none of them are the same -- even though you're still in Disneyworld. :) Susan H. > I know that, Drew. The point is that the object model is entirely > different, so aren't writing the same code at all, regardless of which > VBE you use. > > Charlotte Foust _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Tue Apr 1 14:26:10 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 14:26:10 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] VBE Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82549@main2.marlow.com> Thank you Arthur. I was beginning to wonder if I was the only one that understood that! I think that way too many people steer clear of learning VBA in another app, because they feel it is going to be a whole new ball game, when in fact, it's the same game, just in a different stadium! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:38 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE No, Susan. The ephemera differ, but they all attempt to disorient you with centrifugal v. centriptal force and similar Physics 101 techniques, so as soon as you understand centrifugal v. centripital you have everything you need. Granted there are different objects in different hierarchies but so what? That's no deeper than different tables in the same database. That's IMO what Drew was suggesting, and IMO he is entirely correct. As opposed, for example, to taking some VBA code from whatever target you choose and porting it to Java or Python. "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." -- Benjamin Franklin -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: April 1, 2003 11:20 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBE Drew, when you visit Disneyworld, you can ride dozens of rides, but none of them are the same -- even though you're still in Disneyworld. :) Susan H. > I know that, Drew. The point is that the object model is entirely > different, so aren't writing the same code at all, regardless of which > VBE you use. > > Charlotte Foust _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Tue Apr 1 14:27:03 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 14:27:03 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Hiatus Interuptus Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D8254A@main2.marlow.com> Being a surface fella (CVN-70), we like to refer to submarines as ships designed to sink! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:45 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Hiatus Interuptus Is a submarine some sort of training status for actual genuine marines? :-) "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." -- Benjamin Franklin -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark Sent: April 1, 2003 2:10 PM To: 'AccessD' Subject: [AccessD] Hiatus Interuptus Group, It's been quite nearly a year since I last posted to this list. I won't go into the boring details, but I'm glad to be back. I hope I can help out. Thanks in advance for my inevitable questions to come. Mark Mitsules Senior Designer Submarine Electrical Engineering Northrop Grumman Newport News 757.380.3376 _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Tue Apr 1 14:28:05 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 14:28:05 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Hiatus Interuptus Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D8254B@main2.marlow.com> Tell me about it! It's like rooming with someone that doesn't have their driver's license! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Mitsules, Mark [mailto:mitsules_ms at nns.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:58 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Hiatus Interuptus Well...a submarine IS beneath a marine (literally) considering that the Navy has to give them a ride everywhere they go...;) Mark -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 2:45 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Hiatus Interuptus Is a submarine some sort of training status for actual genuine marines? :-) "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." -- Benjamin Franklin -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark Sent: April 1, 2003 2:10 PM To: 'AccessD' Subject: [AccessD] Hiatus Interuptus Group, It's been quite nearly a year since I last posted to this list. I won't go into the boring details, but I'm glad to be back. I hope I can help out. Thanks in advance for my inevitable questions to come. Mark Mitsules Senior Designer Submarine Electrical Engineering Northrop Grumman Newport News 757.380.3376 _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Tue Apr 1 14:31:37 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 12:31:37 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] VBE Message-ID: You're assuming that people *do* steer clear of learning VBA in another app, which is just as fallacious as claiming it's all the same thing. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 12:26 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE Thank you Arthur. I was beginning to wonder if I was the only one that understood that! I think that way too many people steer clear of learning VBA in another app, because they feel it is going to be a whole new ball game, when in fact, it's the same game, just in a different stadium! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:38 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE No, Susan. The ephemera differ, but they all attempt to disorient you with centrifugal v. centriptal force and similar Physics 101 techniques, so as soon as you understand centrifugal v. centripital you have everything you need. Granted there are different objects in different hierarchies but so what? That's no deeper than different tables in the same database. That's IMO what Drew was suggesting, and IMO he is entirely correct. As opposed, for example, to taking some VBA code from whatever target you choose and porting it to Java or Python. "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." -- Benjamin Franklin -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: April 1, 2003 11:20 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBE Drew, when you visit Disneyworld, you can ride dozens of rides, but none of them are the same -- even though you're still in Disneyworld. :) Susan H. > I know that, Drew. The point is that the object model is entirely > different, so aren't writing the same code at all, regardless of which > VBE you use. > > Charlotte Foust _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ranthony at wrsystems.com Tue Apr 1 14:37:19 2003 From: ranthony at wrsystems.com (Randall Anthony) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 15:37:19 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Hiatus Interuptus Message-ID: <5F21A4E8B8DD734992EF9E70AC9D30641284FC@mail2.wrsystems.com> Ha!! Being an ex-bubblehead (SSN-693), we stand by the ol' saying, there are only two types of ships, submarines and Targets!! -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 3:27 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Hiatus Interuptus Being a surface fella (CVN-70), we like to refer to submarines as ships designed to sink! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:45 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Hiatus Interuptus Is a submarine some sort of training status for actual genuine marines? :-) "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." -- Benjamin Franklin -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark Sent: April 1, 2003 2:10 PM To: 'AccessD' Subject: [AccessD] Hiatus Interuptus Group, It's been quite nearly a year since I last posted to this list. I won't go into the boring details, but I'm glad to be back. I hope I can help out. Thanks in advance for my inevitable questions to come. Mark Mitsules Senior Designer Submarine Electrical Engineering Northrop Grumman Newport News 757.380.3376 _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Tue Apr 1 14:39:31 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 14:39:31 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Search archives: was Access 97 - Numeric field over flow Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D8254E@main2.marlow.com> Okay, just tested this myself. Change the Action to 'action="http://64.218.6.201/AccessD/default.asp"'. Sorry, I am trying to get my domain name actually registered to my new IP Address, but for right now, it is setup so that the Hosting company I provided is 'forwarding' the web requests. That must be what is causing the issue, because switching to the IP Address fixes it. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 2:10 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search archives: was Access 97 - Numeric field overflow I just got curious and pasted the HTML from your post into a page on my local machine. When I click search I get to your page but that's it. I can post the code on a web server if you want to see it but it's really nothing more than you posted below. Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 2:52 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search archives: was Access 97 - Numeric field overflow What's the page you are trying this from? (So I can take a look at it.) Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 6:58 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search archives: was Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Drew, All this does is load your search page with no values loaded. Should it load the value passed in "SearchString" and/or perform the search too (just curious)? Thanks, Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:48 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Okay, here's what you should have: Search:
The IP Address you have was with my old ISP. Just use the domain name. (Right now, going to www.wolfwares.com will swap to an IP Address in your browser (trying to get that fixed....), but the path works fine. Also, you want the method to be Post, so it sends the information through as a form. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 5:27 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Drew: Yes I am... here is the code fragment from the search Form tag: ...
... You should be able to receive and manage the query string variable 'SearchString'. There might be so other issues but this is the sending syntax. I have never had a chance to actually test the process of transferring a query string to a remote site but this is the setting as read. HTH Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:04 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Actually Jim, are you putting this into an HTML form? If so, can you just name the 'search' button 'Search', with a value of 'Search', and then the 'textbox' name as SearchString (as you have it). Right now, my ASP page looks for that value for the submit button, to do the search. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 4:28 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Hi Drew: I was not trying to imply you should get on to the archive issue. I was just stating an observation. While we are on the subject, could you set your index page to check for an incoming query strings, named 'SearchString'; I think it is variable name you use. If the value is null, display normally else, fill SearchString variable from the contents of the received query string 'SearchString' and process the search. I guess the content/memo field should be the default field for searching? What do you think? This will/should only be a short-term fix until a more permanent home for the archive can be found. Thank you so much for all your work and effort. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 1:51 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Okay, the archive will be fully available sometime very early Wednesday morning. I was working on writing the new ASP interface (well, the code behind it), and discovered that my indexer was chopping off the last letter of each word it was indexing. Long story. So after fixing that bug, I had to re-index the Memo fields. At 2 pm today, it had indexed 10,000 records (a little more...but close enough), and I 'restarted' the indexer last night at 3 am. So in about 11 hours it did 10,000, there are about 40,000 records in the database, so it's going to be about 33 hours from 2 this afternoon. (Also, the searching is there, just not totally complete....it'll take me a few hours to finish up the pages themselves, probably do that tonight) Drew > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:22 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > John: From someone on this list...need the archive. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 12:28 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > Nope, just starting to append records. And where did you get 65K > records maximum? > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 1:47 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > Hi John: > > You have not exceeded the maximum of 65000 records by any chance? > > Just a thought > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:09 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > In fact I was just appending the same data twice. I have a unique > index on a combination of fields that should prevent the data from going > in a second time. This was just a test of that index to make sure the > data would not go in again. > > In fact though the user may end up importing several different > files, one after another. The entire process is to ask the user to find > the file, copy it to a specific file name in a specific directory so that > the link works correctly, copy the original to a backup directory, then > run the append queries to get the data out of the spreadsheets and into > the table. From there a "all records in the previous" and "all records > NOT in the previous" will be run for reporting purposes. > > It shouldn't matter what I am doing though. If it runs once, it > should run a million times. It may very well come back and say "X records > could not be appended..." because of the unique index, but it should NOT > give me this "numeric overflow" error. According to help that means that > "the data is too big for a btrieve field" or some such. IOW, one of those > useless error messages. The fact that the data actually imports makes it > even more suspicious. > > I just don't want to send out work that pops up useless error > messages and has to be exited and reloaded in order to work. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Wortz, > Charles > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 11:11 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > > JC, > > You got me confused when you say "The append process works the first > time it is run, then the second time, I get a Numeric Overflow." > What > are you doing the second time? Appending the same data to the same > records, or appending some other data to some other records, or > what? > > Charles Wortz > Software Development Division > Texas Education Agency > 1701 N. Congress Ave > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > 512-463-9493 > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com] > Sent: Monday 2003 Mar 31 10:01 > To: AccessD > Subject: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > Guys, > > It's been awhile since I have dealt with A97. I am doing an import > of > data from excel spreadsheets. The data in the spreadsheet is a dbl > datatype, but is really a long int, i.e. no decimal points. I am > linking the spreadsheet, whereupon I see that the datatype of the > field > is dbl. I build a base query that runs these fields through a > clng() to > convert them to long integers. I then append the data into a table. > The append process works the first time it is run, then the second > time, > I get a Numeric Overflow. I get the overflow between the "you are > about > to..." warning and the "X records did not append..." error. In fact > that second error never occurs. Once the error occurs, I have to > shut > down the db and re-open it, whereupon the query will run > successfully > one time, then the error again. > > I am at SP2 for A97, and I don't remember what the latest SP is for > A97. > > Has anyone ever seen this problem? > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. > Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com << File: ATT00050.txt >> << > File: ATT00097.txt >> > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Is email taking over your day? 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The customer wants to input a month and have the form open showing the records for that month. But if there are no records for that month, they want the form to open showing new records created from the previous month and only showing some of the data in each record. The rest of the fields are to be blanked for input. When the customer is finished entering data into these records, all the records with data entered are to be saved and the others not saved. I know this is doable, and some of you may have already done something similar. However, I seem to be suffering a senior moment since I cannot think of a way to doing the creating and saving. I am using A2K/A02 on Win2K. TIA, Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us From Jdemarco at hshhp.org Tue Apr 1 14:48:39 2003 From: Jdemarco at hshhp.org (Jim DeMarco) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 15:48:39 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Search archives: was Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Message-ID: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F99D85784@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com> OK. That worked. Thanks, Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 3:40 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search archives: was Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Okay, just tested this myself. Change the Action to 'action="http://64.218.6.201/AccessD/default.asp"'. Sorry, I am trying to get my domain name actually registered to my new IP Address, but for right now, it is setup so that the Hosting company I provided is 'forwarding' the web requests. That must be what is causing the issue, because switching to the IP Address fixes it. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 2:10 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search archives: was Access 97 - Numeric field overflow I just got curious and pasted the HTML from your post into a page on my local machine. When I click search I get to your page but that's it. I can post the code on a web server if you want to see it but it's really nothing more than you posted below. Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 2:52 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search archives: was Access 97 - Numeric field overflow What's the page you are trying this from? (So I can take a look at it.) Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 6:58 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search archives: was Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Drew, All this does is load your search page with no values loaded. Should it load the value passed in "SearchString" and/or perform the search too (just curious)? Thanks, Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:48 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Okay, here's what you should have: Search:
The IP Address you have was with my old ISP. Just use the domain name. (Right now, going to www.wolfwares.com will swap to an IP Address in your browser (trying to get that fixed....), but the path works fine. Also, you want the method to be Post, so it sends the information through as a form. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 5:27 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Drew: Yes I am... here is the code fragment from the search Form tag: ...
... You should be able to receive and manage the query string variable 'SearchString'. There might be so other issues but this is the sending syntax. I have never had a chance to actually test the process of transferring a query string to a remote site but this is the setting as read. HTH Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:04 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Actually Jim, are you putting this into an HTML form? If so, can you just name the 'search' button 'Search', with a value of 'Search', and then the 'textbox' name as SearchString (as you have it). Right now, my ASP page looks for that value for the submit button, to do the search. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 4:28 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Hi Drew: I was not trying to imply you should get on to the archive issue. I was just stating an observation. While we are on the subject, could you set your index page to check for an incoming query strings, named 'SearchString'; I think it is variable name you use. If the value is null, display normally else, fill SearchString variable from the contents of the received query string 'SearchString' and process the search. I guess the content/memo field should be the default field for searching? What do you think? This will/should only be a short-term fix until a more permanent home for the archive can be found. Thank you so much for all your work and effort. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 1:51 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Okay, the archive will be fully available sometime very early Wednesday morning. I was working on writing the new ASP interface (well, the code behind it), and discovered that my indexer was chopping off the last letter of each word it was indexing. Long story. So after fixing that bug, I had to re-index the Memo fields. At 2 pm today, it had indexed 10,000 records (a little more...but close enough), and I 'restarted' the indexer last night at 3 am. So in about 11 hours it did 10,000, there are about 40,000 records in the database, so it's going to be about 33 hours from 2 this afternoon. (Also, the searching is there, just not totally complete....it'll take me a few hours to finish up the pages themselves, probably do that tonight) Drew > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:22 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > John: From someone on this list...need the archive. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 12:28 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > Nope, just starting to append records. And where did you get 65K > records maximum? > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 1:47 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > Hi John: > > You have not exceeded the maximum of 65000 records by any chance? > > Just a thought > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:09 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > In fact I was just appending the same data twice. I have a unique > index on a combination of fields that should prevent the data from going > in a second time. This was just a test of that index to make sure the > data would not go in again. > > In fact though the user may end up importing several different > files, one after another. The entire process is to ask the user to find > the file, copy it to a specific file name in a specific directory so that > the link works correctly, copy the original to a backup directory, then > run the append queries to get the data out of the spreadsheets and into > the table. From there a "all records in the previous" and "all records > NOT in the previous" will be run for reporting purposes. > > It shouldn't matter what I am doing though. If it runs once, it > should run a million times. It may very well come back and say "X records > could not be appended..." because of the unique index, but it should NOT > give me this "numeric overflow" error. According to help that means that > "the data is too big for a btrieve field" or some such. IOW, one of those > useless error messages. The fact that the data actually imports makes it > even more suspicious. > > I just don't want to send out work that pops up useless error > messages and has to be exited and reloaded in order to work. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Wortz, > Charles > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 11:11 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > > JC, > > You got me confused when you say "The append process works the first > time it is run, then the second time, I get a Numeric Overflow." > What > are you doing the second time? Appending the same data to the same > records, or appending some other data to some other records, or > what? > > Charles Wortz > Software Development Division > Texas Education Agency > 1701 N. Congress Ave > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > 512-463-9493 > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com] > Sent: Monday 2003 Mar 31 10:01 > To: AccessD > Subject: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > Guys, > > It's been awhile since I have dealt with A97. I am doing an import > of > data from excel spreadsheets. The data in the spreadsheet is a dbl > datatype, but is really a long int, i.e. no decimal points. I am > linking the spreadsheet, whereupon I see that the datatype of the > field > is dbl. I build a base query that runs these fields through a > clng() to > convert them to long integers. I then append the data into a table. > The append process works the first time it is run, then the second > time, > I get a Numeric Overflow. I get the overflow between the "you are > about > to..." warning and the "X records did not append..." error. In fact > that second error never occurs. Once the error occurs, I have to > shut > down the db and re-open it, whereupon the query will run > successfully > one time, then the error again. > > I am at SP2 for A97, and I don't remember what the latest SP is for > A97. > > Has anyone ever seen this problem? > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. > Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com << File: ATT00050.txt >> << > File: ATT00097.txt >> > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Is email taking over your day? 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If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HS/HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank You". *********************************************************************************** From Jdemarco at hshhp.org Tue Apr 1 14:50:00 2003 From: Jdemarco at hshhp.org (Jim DeMarco) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 15:50:00 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Message-ID: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F99D85785@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com> Thanks Susan. I can also use OLEDB from an mdb. I wonder if that's about the same thing? Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Susan Zeller [mailto:szeller at cce.umn.edu] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 3:05 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL In my expereince ADP's are significantly faster than MDB's for the FE b/c ADP uses OLEDB connection. I've found ODBC connections to be very slow. Once in an ADP, start making sprocs do all the work. You can make sprocs very efficient and then your application will be at lightening speed. --Susan -----Original Message----- From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 12:03 PM To: AccessD (E-mail) Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL We had an app (mdb FE/mdb BE) that was performing horribly across a WAN. We moved the BE into SQL Server 2K which helped a bit but I'm wondering if converting the FE to an ADP would do this one step better (this after reading Arthur's excellent article on TechRepublic.com, thanks to Francisco for the pointer). Anyone have an idea? Thanks, Jim DeMarco Director of Product Development HealthSource/Hudson Health Plan ************************************************************************ *********** "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from HealthSource/Hudson Health Plan (HS/HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HS/HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. 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If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HS/HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank You". *********************************************************************************** From DWUTKA at marlow.com Tue Apr 1 14:58:17 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 14:58:17 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] VBA is VBA, no matter what the 'shell' Was:VBE Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D8254F@main2.marlow.com> Charlotte: To learn what in, Drew? Access VBA programming isn't the same as VB anyhow. Drew: The language is almost identical, you just have a different object model to deal with. Charlotte: That's like saying that programming Word and Access is the same, you just have a different object model to deal with! Okay, above is the initial start of this 'thread'. Actually, not understanding the PRINCIPLES of VB/VBA will get you no where. There is a difference between 'generic' programming and the principles of VB/VBA. Generic programming would be i=i+1. That's a simple line of code, to increase the value of i by 1. However, the a principle would be understanding things like 'If i=1 then' means that it is only 'checking' the value of 1. In some languages, 'If i=1 then' would have i=1 after the check...you would need to use 'If i==1 then' instead. Or understanding that ByRef is the default for a function/subs arguments. Understanding how VB/VBA is single threaded, and what that implies, including what DoEvents does. These are all principles that must be understood to effectively program VB/VBA. I actually started with Access, and I wouldn't consider myself strictly VB now either. I develop in VB, Access, (some excel), ASP, etc. You know, I had to pick up QVBasic, which is a proprietary language for an inspection machine we have. QVBasic is VERY similar to VBScript. In fact, almost all commands are identical. There are two primary differences. One, you can dimension a variable to a particular type. (Can't do that in VBScript), and also you have a special 'object model' that allows you to interface with the machine. That is similar to ASP. ASP IS (no if's and's or but's) VBScript. However, it has the ASP object model, which contains several components. Also, some normal VBScript code won't work. Not because ASP isn't VBScript, but because of the platform ASP is run in. (ie, CreateObject commands must be done with the ASP Server object, because the object needs to be created within the context of the IIS server). There are definite differences between VB and VBA. I am not arguing that at all. However, VBA within any of the Office programs is EXACTLY the same (as long as you are in the same 'family', ie, Access 2000 and Excel 97 are not the same (6.0 versus 5.0). I am not saying that learning the intrecacies of the object model is not important. What I AM saying is that if you don't understand the principles of VBA, then learning the object model is going to be much more difficult. Understanding what a property, a collection, and a method are, are key to understanding how a new object model works. (Oh yeah, and events.....) Just because you have a different 'default' object model (remember, you can use any office program object model within any other office program), does not make VBA different. Because if that was the case, VBA would not be the same from project to project within the same program. When you make a Class, you are creating an 'object model' (a simple one, but an object none the less). So the code used to interface with that class is going to be different from the code used to interface with a different class. Does that mean that it's a whole new language? Obviously not! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 2:18 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE I understand how you feel, Drew. But my point is that just understanding generic VB/VBA programming is not going to get you anywhere at all when you need to understand the particular object model involved. You are dealing primarily with VB, not with the Access interface objects, so it's very easy for you to say how "similar" everything is. In fact, the object models for the interface objects are not similar at all. One handy example is the combobox in VB as opposed to the Access combobox. Sorry, Pal, but your argument doesn't hold water. :o} Charlotte Foust From artful at rogers.com Tue Apr 1 15:01:32 2003 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 16:01:32 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <029a01c2f891$df788880$8e01a8c0@Rock> Unfortunately, ADPs are dead. (Don't quote me on that, just take my word for it.) "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." -- Benjamin Franklin -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Zeller Sent: April 1, 2003 3:05 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL In my expereince ADP's are significantly faster than MDB's for the FE b/c ADP uses OLEDB connection. I've found ODBC connections to be very slow. Once in an ADP, start making sprocs do all the work. You can make sprocs very efficient and then your application will be at lightening speed. --Susan -----Original Message----- From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 12:03 PM To: AccessD (E-mail) Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL We had an app (mdb FE/mdb BE) that was performing horribly across a WAN. We moved the BE into SQL Server 2K which helped a bit but I'm wondering if converting the FE to an ADP would do this one step better (this after reading Arthur's excellent article on TechRepublic.com, thanks to Francisco for the pointer). Anyone have an idea? Thanks, Jim DeMarco Director of Product Development HealthSource/Hudson Health Plan ************************************************************************ *********** "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from HealthSource/Hudson Health Plan (HS/HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HS/HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank You". ************************************************************************ *********** _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Tue Apr 1 15:07:27 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 15:07:27 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Message-ID: You mean we missed the death notice and funeral? Or are you one of the evil doctors injecting the fatal solution into ADP's veins as we speak? Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 01 15:02 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Unfortunately, ADPs are dead. (Don't quote me on that, just take my word for it.) "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." -- Benjamin Franklin From DWUTKA at marlow.com Tue Apr 1 15:09:16 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 15:09:16 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] VBE Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82550@main2.marlow.com> All I am saying is that VBA within any office program of the same 'generation' IS THE SAME VBA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Okay Charlotte. Open Access (whatever version you want). Go into the references and look at Visual Basic For Applications. Take a look at the location and file used for that reference. That reference IS VBA. Now open Word (same version). Again open your references......look at Visual Basic For Applications....surprise!!!! It's the same file. Maybe that's a fluke, let's try Excel. Let's look in the references........uh oh.....looks like the same file to me. Hold on a second. Access, Word and Excel aren't the only programs in the Office Suite. Let's try PowerPoint...oh man...it's the same .dll. Aha, let's try Outlook....hmmmmm....imagine that. Okay, I know I'm being a smart a55 , but do you get my point? Drew -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 2:32 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE You're assuming that people *do* steer clear of learning VBA in another app, which is just as fallacious as claiming it's all the same thing. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 12:26 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE Thank you Arthur. I was beginning to wonder if I was the only one that understood that! I think that way too many people steer clear of learning VBA in another app, because they feel it is going to be a whole new ball game, when in fact, it's the same game, just in a different stadium! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:38 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE No, Susan. The ephemera differ, but they all attempt to disorient you with centrifugal v. centriptal force and similar Physics 101 techniques, so as soon as you understand centrifugal v. centripital you have everything you need. Granted there are different objects in different hierarchies but so what? That's no deeper than different tables in the same database. That's IMO what Drew was suggesting, and IMO he is entirely correct. As opposed, for example, to taking some VBA code from whatever target you choose and porting it to Java or Python. "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." -- Benjamin Franklin -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: April 1, 2003 11:20 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBE Drew, when you visit Disneyworld, you can ride dozens of rides, but none of them are the same -- even though you're still in Disneyworld. :) Susan H. > I know that, Drew. The point is that the object model is entirely > different, so aren't writing the same code at all, regardless of which > VBE you use. > > Charlotte Foust _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Tue Apr 1 15:10:59 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 15:10:59 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Hiatus Interuptus Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82551@main2.marlow.com> Oh, the good ol' days, I missed those types of exchanges....nowadays it's just the ol' bound vs. unbound, surrogate keys, and apparently people think VBA is different from one office program to the next. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Randall Anthony [mailto:ranthony at wrsystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 2:37 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Hiatus Interuptus Ha!! Being an ex-bubblehead (SSN-693), we stand by the ol' saying, there are only two types of ships, submarines and Targets!! -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 3:27 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Hiatus Interuptus Being a surface fella (CVN-70), we like to refer to submarines as ships designed to sink! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:45 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Hiatus Interuptus Is a submarine some sort of training status for actual genuine marines? :-) "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." -- Benjamin Franklin -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark Sent: April 1, 2003 2:10 PM To: 'AccessD' Subject: [AccessD] Hiatus Interuptus Group, It's been quite nearly a year since I last posted to this list. I won't go into the boring details, but I'm glad to be back. I hope I can help out. Thanks in advance for my inevitable questions to come. Mark Mitsules Senior Designer Submarine Electrical Engineering Northrop Grumman Newport News 757.380.3376 _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Tue Apr 1 15:13:00 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 15:13:00 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Search archives: was Access 97 - Numeric field over flow Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82552@main2.marlow.com> When I get my domain name situation fixed, I'll want that IP Address switched to the domain name, just to have it be more flexible. Problem is my sister registered that domain name (and was hosting my site years ago), so I am having to get on her case about not getting it switched. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 2:49 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search archives: was Access 97 - Numeric field overflow OK. That worked. Thanks, Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 3:40 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search archives: was Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Okay, just tested this myself. Change the Action to 'action="http://64.218.6.201/AccessD/default.asp"'. Sorry, I am trying to get my domain name actually registered to my new IP Address, but for right now, it is setup so that the Hosting company I provided is 'forwarding' the web requests. That must be what is causing the issue, because switching to the IP Address fixes it. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 2:10 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search archives: was Access 97 - Numeric field overflow I just got curious and pasted the HTML from your post into a page on my local machine. When I click search I get to your page but that's it. I can post the code on a web server if you want to see it but it's really nothing more than you posted below. Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 2:52 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search archives: was Access 97 - Numeric field overflow What's the page you are trying this from? (So I can take a look at it.) Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 6:58 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search archives: was Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Drew, All this does is load your search page with no values loaded. Should it load the value passed in "SearchString" and/or perform the search too (just curious)? Thanks, Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:48 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Okay, here's what you should have: Search:
The IP Address you have was with my old ISP. Just use the domain name. (Right now, going to www.wolfwares.com will swap to an IP Address in your browser (trying to get that fixed....), but the path works fine. Also, you want the method to be Post, so it sends the information through as a form. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 5:27 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Drew: Yes I am... here is the code fragment from the search Form tag: ...
... You should be able to receive and manage the query string variable 'SearchString'. There might be so other issues but this is the sending syntax. I have never had a chance to actually test the process of transferring a query string to a remote site but this is the setting as read. HTH Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:04 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Actually Jim, are you putting this into an HTML form? If so, can you just name the 'search' button 'Search', with a value of 'Search', and then the 'textbox' name as SearchString (as you have it). Right now, my ASP page looks for that value for the submit button, to do the search. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 4:28 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Hi Drew: I was not trying to imply you should get on to the archive issue. I was just stating an observation. While we are on the subject, could you set your index page to check for an incoming query strings, named 'SearchString'; I think it is variable name you use. If the value is null, display normally else, fill SearchString variable from the contents of the received query string 'SearchString' and process the search. I guess the content/memo field should be the default field for searching? What do you think? This will/should only be a short-term fix until a more permanent home for the archive can be found. Thank you so much for all your work and effort. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 1:51 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Okay, the archive will be fully available sometime very early Wednesday morning. I was working on writing the new ASP interface (well, the code behind it), and discovered that my indexer was chopping off the last letter of each word it was indexing. Long story. So after fixing that bug, I had to re-index the Memo fields. At 2 pm today, it had indexed 10,000 records (a little more...but close enough), and I 'restarted' the indexer last night at 3 am. So in about 11 hours it did 10,000, there are about 40,000 records in the database, so it's going to be about 33 hours from 2 this afternoon. (Also, the searching is there, just not totally complete....it'll take me a few hours to finish up the pages themselves, probably do that tonight) Drew > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:22 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > John: From someone on this list...need the archive. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 12:28 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > Nope, just starting to append records. And where did you get 65K > records maximum? > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 1:47 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > Hi John: > > You have not exceeded the maximum of 65000 records by any chance? > > Just a thought > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:09 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > In fact I was just appending the same data twice. I have a unique > index on a combination of fields that should prevent the data from going > in a second time. This was just a test of that index to make sure the > data would not go in again. > > In fact though the user may end up importing several different > files, one after another. The entire process is to ask the user to find > the file, copy it to a specific file name in a specific directory so that > the link works correctly, copy the original to a backup directory, then > run the append queries to get the data out of the spreadsheets and into > the table. From there a "all records in the previous" and "all records > NOT in the previous" will be run for reporting purposes. > > It shouldn't matter what I am doing though. If it runs once, it > should run a million times. It may very well come back and say "X records > could not be appended..." because of the unique index, but it should NOT > give me this "numeric overflow" error. According to help that means that > "the data is too big for a btrieve field" or some such. IOW, one of those > useless error messages. The fact that the data actually imports makes it > even more suspicious. > > I just don't want to send out work that pops up useless error > messages and has to be exited and reloaded in order to work. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Wortz, > Charles > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 11:11 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > > JC, > > You got me confused when you say "The append process works the first > time it is run, then the second time, I get a Numeric Overflow." > What > are you doing the second time? Appending the same data to the same > records, or appending some other data to some other records, or > what? > > Charles Wortz > Software Development Division > Texas Education Agency > 1701 N. Congress Ave > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > 512-463-9493 > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com] > Sent: Monday 2003 Mar 31 10:01 > To: AccessD > Subject: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > Guys, > > It's been awhile since I have dealt with A97. I am doing an import > of > data from excel spreadsheets. The data in the spreadsheet is a dbl > datatype, but is really a long int, i.e. no decimal points. I am > linking the spreadsheet, whereupon I see that the datatype of the > field > is dbl. I build a base query that runs these fields through a > clng() to > convert them to long integers. I then append the data into a table. > The append process works the first time it is run, then the second > time, > I get a Numeric Overflow. I get the overflow between the "you are > about > to..." warning and the "X records did not append..." error. In fact > that second error never occurs. Once the error occurs, I have to > shut > down the db and re-open it, whereupon the query will run > successfully > one time, then the error again. > > I am at SP2 for A97, and I don't remember what the latest SP is for > A97. > > Has anyone ever seen this problem? > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. > Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com << File: ATT00050.txt >> << > File: ATT00097.txt >> > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Is email taking over your day? 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If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HS/HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank You". **************************************************************************** ******* _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From harkins at iglou.com Tue Apr 1 15:11:58 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 16:11:58 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] VBE References: <025401c2f886$2ed7dcc0$8e01a8c0@Rock> Message-ID: <010901c2f893$d10b87f0$b9e6ffcc@SusanOne> Remind me to never take you to Disneyworld! Susan H. > No, Susan. The ephemera differ, but they all attempt to disorient you with > centrifugal v. centriptal force and similar Physics 101 techniques, so as > soon as you understand centrifugal v. centripital you have everything you > need. Granted there are different objects in different hierarchies but so > what? That's no deeper than different tables in the same database. That's > IMO what Drew was suggesting, and IMO he is entirely correct. As opposed, > for example, to taking some VBA code from whatever target you choose and > porting it to Java or Python. > > "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." > -- Benjamin Franklin > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins > Sent: April 1, 2003 11:20 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBE > > > Drew, when you visit Disneyworld, you can ride dozens of rides, but none of > them are the same -- even though you're still in Disneyworld. :) > > Susan H. > > > > I know that, Drew. The point is that the object model is entirely > > different, so aren't writing the same code at all, regardless of which > > VBE you use. > > > > Charlotte Foust > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From harkins at iglou.com Tue Apr 1 15:13:11 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 16:13:11 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] VBE References: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82547@main2.marlow.com> Message-ID: <010a01c2f893$d1dd56e0$b9e6ffcc@SusanOne> I think Charlotte's point is, and in Fuller Fashion, I agree -- you can be an expert at VBA in Access and not know cr*p about using VBA in Word or Excel. Susan H. > I still disagree with you on this Charlotte. If you are in Access, Excel, > or Word, and you write this: > > Dim strTemp As String > strTemp="Hello" > msgbox InStr(1,strTemp,"l") > > You are going to get a message box that says '3' no matter what Office > program you are in. > > Now, when you are in Access, and you write: > > DoCmd.Quit > > Yes, that code only works in Access 'as is'. But that is because you want > to have the object model of the application you are running, already loaded, > and acting as a 'default'.....wouldn't you? > > The reason I am being so adament/argumentative on this thread, is because I > feel it is FAR more important to understand the principles of programming in > VB/VBA (or whatever language you choose), then it is to understand the > details of the object model you are in. By that, I mean that once you have > learned what events are, how functions and subs work, how a class module > works, etc. You have the understanding of VB/VBA, which is universal no > matter what you are in for a development tool. I hardly ever write code > within Excel, and I have only written code within Word once, but I had/have > no problem doing so, because the language and principles are the same, it is > only a matter of finding what properties and methods are available for the > current object model, and what special objects I will be dealing with. > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:07 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > I know that, Drew. The point is that the object model is entirely > different, so aren't writing the same code at all, regardless of which > VBE you use. > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:48 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > Actually, you're still using VBA. The language is still the same. > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 7:47 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > But when you program Word from within Access, you still have to use the > Word object model. You aren't programming Access, you're programming > Word. It isn't the same thing at all. > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 4:58 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > It is the same, you just have a different 'default' object. You can > program stuff for Word within Access, and Access within Word, right? > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:45 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > That's like saying that programming Word and Access is the same, you > just have a different object model to deal with! > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 2:23 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > The language is almost identical, you just have a different object model > to deal with. > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 4:07 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > To learn what in, Drew? Access VBA programming isn't the same as VB > anyhow. > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 1:46 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > I think the VB 6.0 'look' in A2k and up feels funny in Access because it > appears to 'seperate' the code from the objects. In VB 6.0 itself, you > work on the VB forms in the same environment, so there is no disconnect. > Same with Access 97. However, in A2k and up, you have this 'split', > where the code is worked on 'seperately'. Personally I think it's a bad > environment to learn in. > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:00 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > I thought it was just me. Love the IDE in VB 6.0 but feels weird in > Access! > > Jim DeMarco > > -----Original Message----- > From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:57 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > Me too. > > In fact, when I started using VB 6.0, and was presented with an > interface slightly different from what I was used to in Access 97, it > took a little to get used too, but I learned to like VB 6.0's VBE. > However, when I then started messing with Access 2000, I found that I > didn't like that same 'VBE' style in Access....I prefered the way Access > 97 handled things. One thing that I love being able to do in Access 97, > is to have a form open, with it's code page just beneath it. Let's you > edit or run your code without having to flip flop windows. > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 2:35 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > I always called it Nice! > > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 2:13 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > Really? I would consider the code environment in 97 to be a VBE. You > get VB like menus, it is a VB environment. Sure, it doesn't show up > exactly like VB, but I have always called it the VBE. > > Just curious, have I been wrong all this time, and if so, what do you > call the VB environment in 97? > > Drew > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com] > > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 8:13 PM > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > > 2k > > > > John W. Colby > > Colby Consulting > > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan > > Harkins > > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 8:51 PM > > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: [AccessD] VBE > > > > > > Did the VBE first show up in 97 or 2000? > > > > Susan H. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. 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Yes, the VBA is the same language. It's also the same VBA that VB uses. That is not, and has never been, the point. There is not a whole heck of a lot that the vanilla VBA language can do to manipulate an Access nested subform, now is there? And Word would be at a loss to deal with it. Let's stick to the issue at least. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:09 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE All I am saying is that VBA within any office program of the same 'generation' IS THE SAME VBA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Okay Charlotte. Open Access (whatever version you want). Go into the references and look at Visual Basic For Applications. Take a look at the location and file used for that reference. That reference IS VBA. Now open Word (same version). Again open your references......look at Visual Basic For Applications....surprise!!!! It's the same file. Maybe that's a fluke, let's try Excel. Let's look in the references........uh oh.....looks like the same file to me. Hold on a second. Access, Word and Excel aren't the only programs in the Office Suite. Let's try PowerPoint...oh man...it's the same .dll. Aha, let's try Outlook....hmmmmm....imagine that. Okay, I know I'm being a smart a55 , but do you get my point? Drew -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 2:32 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE You're assuming that people *do* steer clear of learning VBA in another app, which is just as fallacious as claiming it's all the same thing. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 12:26 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE Thank you Arthur. I was beginning to wonder if I was the only one that understood that! I think that way too many people steer clear of learning VBA in another app, because they feel it is going to be a whole new ball game, when in fact, it's the same game, just in a different stadium! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:38 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE No, Susan. The ephemera differ, but they all attempt to disorient you with centrifugal v. centriptal force and similar Physics 101 techniques, so as soon as you understand centrifugal v. centripital you have everything you need. Granted there are different objects in different hierarchies but so what? That's no deeper than different tables in the same database. That's IMO what Drew was suggesting, and IMO he is entirely correct. As opposed, for example, to taking some VBA code from whatever target you choose and porting it to Java or Python. "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." -- Benjamin Franklin -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: April 1, 2003 11:20 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBE Drew, when you visit Disneyworld, you can ride dozens of rides, but none of them are the same -- even though you're still in Disneyworld. :) Susan H. > I know that, Drew. The point is that the object model is entirely > different, so aren't writing the same code at all, regardless of which > VBE you use. > > Charlotte Foust _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From szeller at cce.umn.edu Tue Apr 1 15:35:39 2003 From: szeller at cce.umn.edu (Susan Zeller) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 15:35:39 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Message-ID: Arthur, how can you drop a statement like that without more info. What do you mean they are dead? Is something else going to come to life in their place? Should I be preparing for this in some way? --Susan -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 3:02 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Unfortunately, ADPs are dead. (Don't quote me on that, just take my word for it.) "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." -- Benjamin Franklin -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Zeller Sent: April 1, 2003 3:05 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL In my expereince ADP's are significantly faster than MDB's for the FE b/c ADP uses OLEDB connection. I've found ODBC connections to be very slow. Once in an ADP, start making sprocs do all the work. You can make sprocs very efficient and then your application will be at lightening speed. --Susan -----Original Message----- From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 12:03 PM To: AccessD (E-mail) Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL We had an app (mdb FE/mdb BE) that was performing horribly across a WAN. We moved the BE into SQL Server 2K which helped a bit but I'm wondering if converting the FE to an ADP would do this one step better (this after reading Arthur's excellent article on TechRepublic.com, thanks to Francisco for the pointer). Anyone have an idea? Thanks, Jim DeMarco Director of Product Development HealthSource/Hudson Health Plan ************************************************************************ *********** "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from HealthSource/Hudson Health Plan (HS/HHP) that is confidential or privileged. 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Thank You". ************************************************************************ *********** _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DMcAfee at haascnc.com Tue Apr 1 16:00:49 2003 From: DMcAfee at haascnc.com (David McAfee) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 14:00:49 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Message-ID: <657FB70438B7D311AF320090279C1801026D79A1@EXCHMAIL> He can't tell you. Martin would get in trouble for tellin' him ;) But REALLY, are we wasting are time messing with ADPs which seem to be the best thing yet (regarding Access) D -----Original Message----- From: Susan Zeller Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:36 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Arthur, how can you drop a statement like that without more info. What do you mean they are dead? Is something else going to come to life in their place? Should I be preparing for this in some way? --Susan -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 3:02 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Unfortunately, ADPs are dead. (Don't quote me on that, just take my word for it.) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2320 bytes Desc: not available URL: From DWUTKA at marlow.com Tue Apr 1 15:50:21 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 15:50:21 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] VBE Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82553@main2.marlow.com> What you mean to say, is that you can become very familiar with one particular object model, and yet have no clue on how to deal with a different object model? (The term VBA keeps this thing going. There is NO difference in VBA from one app to the next, it's just the object model). Drew -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 3:13 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBE I think Charlotte's point is, and in Fuller Fashion, I agree -- you can be an expert at VBA in Access and not know cr*p about using VBA in Word or Excel. Susan H. > I still disagree with you on this Charlotte. If you are in Access, Excel, > or Word, and you write this: > > Dim strTemp As String > strTemp="Hello" > msgbox InStr(1,strTemp,"l") > > You are going to get a message box that says '3' no matter what Office > program you are in. > > Now, when you are in Access, and you write: > > DoCmd.Quit > > Yes, that code only works in Access 'as is'. But that is because you want > to have the object model of the application you are running, already loaded, > and acting as a 'default'.....wouldn't you? > > The reason I am being so adament/argumentative on this thread, is because I > feel it is FAR more important to understand the principles of programming in > VB/VBA (or whatever language you choose), then it is to understand the > details of the object model you are in. By that, I mean that once you have > learned what events are, how functions and subs work, how a class module > works, etc. You have the understanding of VB/VBA, which is universal no > matter what you are in for a development tool. I hardly ever write code > within Excel, and I have only written code within Word once, but I had/have > no problem doing so, because the language and principles are the same, it is > only a matter of finding what properties and methods are available for the > current object model, and what special objects I will be dealing with. > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:07 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > I know that, Drew. The point is that the object model is entirely > different, so aren't writing the same code at all, regardless of which > VBE you use. > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:48 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > Actually, you're still using VBA. The language is still the same. > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 7:47 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > But when you program Word from within Access, you still have to use the > Word object model. You aren't programming Access, you're programming > Word. It isn't the same thing at all. > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 4:58 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > It is the same, you just have a different 'default' object. You can > program stuff for Word within Access, and Access within Word, right? > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:45 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > That's like saying that programming Word and Access is the same, you > just have a different object model to deal with! > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 2:23 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > The language is almost identical, you just have a different object model > to deal with. > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 4:07 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > To learn what in, Drew? Access VBA programming isn't the same as VB > anyhow. > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 1:46 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > I think the VB 6.0 'look' in A2k and up feels funny in Access because it > appears to 'seperate' the code from the objects. In VB 6.0 itself, you > work on the VB forms in the same environment, so there is no disconnect. > Same with Access 97. However, in A2k and up, you have this 'split', > where the code is worked on 'seperately'. Personally I think it's a bad > environment to learn in. > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:00 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > I thought it was just me. Love the IDE in VB 6.0 but feels weird in > Access! > > Jim DeMarco > > -----Original Message----- > From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:57 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > Me too. > > In fact, when I started using VB 6.0, and was presented with an > interface slightly different from what I was used to in Access 97, it > took a little to get used too, but I learned to like VB 6.0's VBE. > However, when I then started messing with Access 2000, I found that I > didn't like that same 'VBE' style in Access....I prefered the way Access > 97 handled things. One thing that I love being able to do in Access 97, > is to have a form open, with it's code page just beneath it. Let's you > edit or run your code without having to flip flop windows. > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 2:35 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > I always called it Nice! > > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 2:13 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > Really? I would consider the code environment in 97 to be a VBE. You > get VB like menus, it is a VB environment. Sure, it doesn't show up > exactly like VB, but I have always called it the VBE. > > Just curious, have I been wrong all this time, and if so, what do you > call the VB environment in 97? > > Drew > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com] > > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 8:13 PM > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > > 2k > > > > John W. Colby > > Colby Consulting > > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan > > Harkins > > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 8:51 PM > > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: [AccessD] VBE > > > > > > Did the VBE first show up in 97 or 2000? > > > > Susan H. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. 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VB is definitely different then VBA. They certainly have similarities, however there are distinct differences. Why would Word be at a loss to deal with it? Word certainly can't use an Access form within Word directly, but Word can run the same code within automation for an Access database. The only difference being that in Word, to manipulate Access and it's objects, you have to set a reference to, and create an Access object, where as in Access, that 'object' is already present, and set as the 'global' default. For instance: Dim Acc As Access.Application Set Acc = Application Acc.DoCmd.Quit The code above works just fine in Access. To make it work within Word or Excel, you just set Acc=New Access.Application The issue....VBA IS identical from Office App to Office App.....it's just a different object model (default). VB and VBA are not identical, just similar. And what is so tough about going from one app's object model to another? Do they not all share the same 'modeling' scheme? They all have properties, collections, events, and methods. It's only a matter of finding the appropriate one for what you need to do. Granted, for the first time it is going to take a bit longer then if you have been using that object model for years, but it shouldn't take THAT long! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 3:29 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE Drew, You're being willfully dense! Yes, the VBA is the same language. It's also the same VBA that VB uses. That is not, and has never been, the point. There is not a whole heck of a lot that the vanilla VBA language can do to manipulate an Access nested subform, now is there? And Word would be at a loss to deal with it. Let's stick to the issue at least. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:09 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE All I am saying is that VBA within any office program of the same 'generation' IS THE SAME VBA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Okay Charlotte. Open Access (whatever version you want). Go into the references and look at Visual Basic For Applications. Take a look at the location and file used for that reference. That reference IS VBA. Now open Word (same version). Again open your references......look at Visual Basic For Applications....surprise!!!! It's the same file. Maybe that's a fluke, let's try Excel. Let's look in the references........uh oh.....looks like the same file to me. Hold on a second. Access, Word and Excel aren't the only programs in the Office Suite. Let's try PowerPoint...oh man...it's the same .dll. Aha, let's try Outlook....hmmmmm....imagine that. Okay, I know I'm being a smart a55 , but do you get my point? Drew -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 2:32 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE You're assuming that people *do* steer clear of learning VBA in another app, which is just as fallacious as claiming it's all the same thing. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 12:26 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE Thank you Arthur. I was beginning to wonder if I was the only one that understood that! I think that way too many people steer clear of learning VBA in another app, because they feel it is going to be a whole new ball game, when in fact, it's the same game, just in a different stadium! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:38 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE No, Susan. The ephemera differ, but they all attempt to disorient you with centrifugal v. centriptal force and similar Physics 101 techniques, so as soon as you understand centrifugal v. centripital you have everything you need. Granted there are different objects in different hierarchies but so what? That's no deeper than different tables in the same database. That's IMO what Drew was suggesting, and IMO he is entirely correct. As opposed, for example, to taking some VBA code from whatever target you choose and porting it to Java or Python. "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." -- Benjamin Franklin -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: April 1, 2003 11:20 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBE Drew, when you visit Disneyworld, you can ride dozens of rides, but none of them are the same -- even though you're still in Disneyworld. :) Susan H. > I know that, Drew. The point is that the object model is entirely > different, so aren't writing the same code at all, regardless of which > VBE you use. > > Charlotte Foust _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From szeller at cce.umn.edu Tue Apr 1 16:03:30 2003 From: szeller at cce.umn.edu (Susan Zeller) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 16:03:30 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Compact/Repair doesn't work in XP when file on the network Message-ID: Recently upgraded to Windows XP and Office XP. MDB files now will not compact and repair when they are located on the network. Error message says the file is already in use even if the file is not open by any other users at the time. This message happens in Access XP 2000 file format and Access XP 2002 file format. It does not happen when the file is on the C drive. I have not been able to recreate this in an adp file. Making things a bit more confusing, occassionally, files do compact and repair even on the network. Haven't found any similarities with this. Anybody had experience with this or know anything? Can't find anything about it in KB. Thanks. --Susan Susan B. Zeller Office of Information Systems College of Continuing Education University of Minnesota 306 Wesbrook Hall 77 Pleasant Street SE Minneapolis, MN 55455 Phone: 612-626-4785 Fax: 612-625-2568 From sgsax at ksu.edu Tue Apr 1 16:19:01 2003 From: sgsax at ksu.edu (Seth Galitzer) Date: 01 Apr 2003 16:19:01 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] VBE In-Reply-To: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82553@main2.marlow.com> References: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82553@main2.marlow.com> Message-ID: <1049235542.14938.36.camel@sgsax-th4022c> OK, this thread has gone on way too long. Let me clarify a few things and then we can continue on with our meager lives. There's been a lot of hair-splitting on this topic, so I'd like to define a couple of things (as I understand the facts, that is): 1) Beginning with MS Office 95 (I think), all Office apps share a unified subset of VB, called VBA (Visual Basic for Applications). Each app has its own object model, but the basic syntax (no pun intended) for writing code in general is more or less the same. This unification was greatly improved in Office 97, and continues to be more similar in subsequent versions. VBA <> VB, though in most cases, code written in either is interchangable or requiring modest changes. 2) Beginning with MS Office 2000, all Office applications share a common code editing environment, also known as the VBE (Visual Basic Editor). This means that rather than each app using its own internal editor, all share a common, external editor. 3) The VB development environment is completely different from the VBE. Even common form controls are drastically different between the two. Most elements and controls can be duplicated, but not without significant modification in some cases. There are no bound forms; even if you use data controls, it's not the same thing nearly as what Access provides. Switching from one to another is possible, but, as with learning any new development tool, requires a bit of a learning curve. 4) The object models for each MS Office app have become more similar in the last few versions, but they are all still a bit different and each has its own quirks. You can "easily" pick up the basics moving between object models, but more in-depth manipulation requires learning the object. There's no getting around that. I choose to "live" in Access, so I don't really care about the other apps. Other developers here may have the "opportunity" to develop in the other apps, which will require learning the qirks of that/those app(s)' object model. I say, "more power to ya." 5) Are we done yet? 6) If you must continue this thread, please be a polite netizen and not copy the entire thread in your response. OK, so the last two weren't definitions, but requests. It's a beautiful day outside here. I'm going to look out the window for a bit now... Seth -- Seth Galitzer sgsax at ksu.edu Computing Specialist http://puma.agron.ksu.edu/~sgsax Dept. of Plant Pathology Kansas State University From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Tue Apr 1 16:19:41 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 14:19:41 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] VBE Message-ID: VB has a different VBA reference because VB is an engine all by itself. The other apps need a different library but the vanilla VBA stuff is the same. Only the object models are different. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:59 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE Actually, I just checked, VB does have Visual Basic for Applications referenced, but it's a different .dll then my Office 2000 apps. VB is definitely different then VBA. They certainly have similarities, however there are distinct differences. Why would Word be at a loss to deal with it? Word certainly can't use an Access form within Word directly, but Word can run the same code within automation for an Access database. The only difference being that in Word, to manipulate Access and it's objects, you have to set a reference to, and create an Access object, where as in Access, that 'object' is already present, and set as the 'global' default. For instance: Dim Acc As Access.Application Set Acc = Application Acc.DoCmd.Quit The code above works just fine in Access. To make it work within Word or Excel, you just set Acc=New Access.Application The issue....VBA IS identical from Office App to Office App.....it's just a different object model (default). VB and VBA are not identical, just similar. And what is so tough about going from one app's object model to another? Do they not all share the same 'modeling' scheme? They all have properties, collections, events, and methods. It's only a matter of finding the appropriate one for what you need to do. Granted, for the first time it is going to take a bit longer then if you have been using that object model for years, but it shouldn't take THAT long! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 3:29 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE Drew, You're being willfully dense! Yes, the VBA is the same language. It's also the same VBA that VB uses. That is not, and has never been, the point. There is not a whole heck of a lot that the vanilla VBA language can do to manipulate an Access nested subform, now is there? And Word would be at a loss to deal with it. Let's stick to the issue at least. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:09 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE All I am saying is that VBA within any office program of the same 'generation' IS THE SAME VBA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Okay Charlotte. Open Access (whatever version you want). Go into the references and look at Visual Basic For Applications. Take a look at the location and file used for that reference. That reference IS VBA. Now open Word (same version). Again open your references......look at Visual Basic For Applications....surprise!!!! It's the same file. Maybe that's a fluke, let's try Excel. Let's look in the references........uh oh.....looks like the same file to me. Hold on a second. Access, Word and Excel aren't the only programs in the Office Suite. Let's try PowerPoint...oh man...it's the same .dll. Aha, let's try Outlook....hmmmmm....imagine that. Okay, I know I'm being a smart a55 , but do you get my point? Drew -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 2:32 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE You're assuming that people *do* steer clear of learning VBA in another app, which is just as fallacious as claiming it's all the same thing. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 12:26 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE Thank you Arthur. I was beginning to wonder if I was the only one that understood that! I think that way too many people steer clear of learning VBA in another app, because they feel it is going to be a whole new ball game, when in fact, it's the same game, just in a different stadium! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:38 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE No, Susan. The ephemera differ, but they all attempt to disorient you with centrifugal v. centriptal force and similar Physics 101 techniques, so as soon as you understand centrifugal v. centripital you have everything you need. Granted there are different objects in different hierarchies but so what? That's no deeper than different tables in the same database. That's IMO what Drew was suggesting, and IMO he is entirely correct. As opposed, for example, to taking some VBA code from whatever target you choose and porting it to Java or Python. "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." -- Benjamin Franklin -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: April 1, 2003 11:20 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBE Drew, when you visit Disneyworld, you can ride dozens of rides, but none of them are the same -- even though you're still in Disneyworld. :) Susan H. > I know that, Drew. The point is that the object model is entirely > different, so aren't writing the same code at all, regardless of which > VBE you use. > > Charlotte Foust _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From scott.marcus at ae.ge.com Tue Apr 1 15:23:17 2003 From: scott.marcus at ae.ge.com (Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting)) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 16:23:17 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Continuous Form - open for either this month or la st month Message-ID: <768A0EA6FF8CB34FA522978966E5D52E559D54@bwam02msx.ae.ge.com> Charles, Sounds like you need to check the recordsource in the 'Open' event. If there are no records, you need to append the previous months recods in to this month(obviously with this months keys). I leave that SQL for you. After this you need to refresh the recordsource(I think). As for deleteing the records that were not touched, use the 'Update' event to set a field(you need to add this to your table) in the table to true. Then in the "close" event, delete the records for the current month where this field is not true.... Hope that helps. Scott -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 3:48 PM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Continuous Form - open for either this month or last month Gentlepersons and other List members, I have a continuous form that will display about 20-30 records. The customer wants to input a month and have the form open showing the records for that month. But if there are no records for that month, they want the form to open showing new records created from the previous month and only showing some of the data in each record. The rest of the fields are to be blanked for input. When the customer is finished entering data into these records, all the records with data entered are to be saved and the others not saved. I know this is doable, and some of you may have already done something similar. However, I seem to be suffering a senior moment since I cannot think of a way to doing the creating and saving. I am using A2K/A02 on Win2K. TIA, Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Tue Apr 1 16:38:13 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 16:38:13 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] VBE Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82555@main2.marlow.com> Yes, but there are commands available in VBA (VBA commands, not object model properties) not in VB, and there are VB commands (VB Commands, not object model properties) that are available in VB, not in VBA. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 4:20 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE VB has a different VBA reference because VB is an engine all by itself. The other apps need a different library but the vanilla VBA stuff is the same. Only the object models are different. Charlotte Foust From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Tue Apr 1 16:44:18 2003 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 08:44:18 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Continuous Form - open for either this month or last month In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3E8AA2E2.15337.29063F@localhost> > But if there are no records for that month, > they want the form to open showing new records created from the previous > month and only showing some of the data in each record. The rest of the > fields are to be blanked for input. When the customer is finished > entering data into these records, all the records with data entered are > to be saved and the others not saved. > Sounds like the place for a grid control and an unbound form :-) Alterntviely, you'll have to populate a temporary table with the necessary data and change the recordsource of the form to the temp table. On Save - update the main table from the temp table and reset the recordsource again. -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Tue Apr 1 16:55:29 2003 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 08:55:29 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Compact/Repair doesn't work in XP when file on the network In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3E8AA581.9974.33421C@localhost> > Recently upgraded to Windows XP and Office XP. MDB files now will not > compact and repair when they are located on the network. Error message > says the file is already in use even if the file is not open by any > other users at the time. This message happens in Access XP 2000 file > format and Access XP 2002 file format. It does not happen when the file > is on the C drive. I have not been able to recreate this in an adp > file. Making things a bit more confusing, occassionally, files do > compact and repair even on the network. Haven't found any similarities > with this. Anybody had experience with this or know anything? Can't > find anything about it in KB. > I've come across occasional problems with Win XP workstations on networks and various applications, I've heard numerous accounts of others with similar problems. They all seem to revolve around either periodically losing the network connection or, more commonly, not releasiong locks on files. I've very rarely seem anyone come up with a fix other than reverting to W2K on the workstation :-( (maybe that's why W2K still costs more than WinXP ) Personally, I'm staying away from XP as long as possible -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Apr 1 17:08:26 2003 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD)) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 15:08:26 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hear hear to that. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Zeller Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 12:05 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL In my expereince ADP's are significantly faster than MDB's for the FE b/c ADP uses OLEDB connection. I've found ODBC connections to be very slow. Once in an ADP, start making sprocs do all the work. You can make sprocs very efficient and then your application will be at lightening speed. --Susan -----Original Message----- From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 12:03 PM To: AccessD (E-mail) Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL We had an app (mdb FE/mdb BE) that was performing horribly across a WAN. We moved the BE into SQL Server 2K which helped a bit but I'm wondering if converting the FE to an ADP would do this one step better (this after reading Arthur's excellent article on TechRepublic.com, thanks to Francisco for the pointer). Anyone have an idea? Thanks, Jim DeMarco Director of Product Development HealthSource/Hudson Health Plan ************************************************************************ *********** "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from HealthSource/Hudson Health Plan (HS/HHP) that is confidential or privileged. 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If there are no records, you need to append the previous months recods in to this month(obviously with this months keys). I leave that SQL for you. After this you need to refresh the recordsource(I think). As for deleteing the records that were not touched, use the 'Update' event to set a field(you need to add this to your table) in the table to true. Then in the "close" event, delete the records for the current month where this field is not true.... Hope that helps. Scott -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 3:48 PM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Continuous Form - open for either this month or last month Gentlepersons and other List members, I have a continuous form that will display about 20-30 records. The customer wants to input a month and have the form open showing the records for that month. But if there are no records for that month, they want the form to open showing new records created from the previous month and only showing some of the data in each record. The rest of the fields are to be blanked for input. When the customer is finished entering data into these records, all the records with data entered are to be saved and the others not saved. I know this is doable, and some of you may have already done something similar. However, I seem to be suffering a senior moment since I cannot think of a way to doing the creating and saving. I am using A2K/A02 on Win2K. TIA, Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Apr 1 17:18:28 2003 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD)) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 15:18:28 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Search archives In-Reply-To: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F99D8577E@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com> Message-ID: Hi Drew: Just a question while we are on the subject; is your site set up to accepting query strings yet? Could you display the value received if it is not null or it's length is greater than zero? (For temporary debug purposes...) Maybe we could discuss this further, off-line as it is straying very close to totally list off-topic... Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 12:10 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search archives: was Access 97 - Numeric field overflow I just got curious and pasted the HTML from your post into a page on my local machine. When I click search I get to your page but that's it. I can post the code on a web server if you want to see it but it's really nothing more than you posted below. Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 2:52 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search archives: was Access 97 - Numeric field overflow What's the page you are trying this from? (So I can take a look at it.) Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 6:58 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search archives: was Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Drew, All this does is load your search page with no values loaded. Should it load the value passed in "SearchString" and/or perform the search too (just curious)? Thanks, Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:48 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Okay, here's what you should have: Search:
The IP Address you have was with my old ISP. Just use the domain name. (Right now, going to www.wolfwares.com will swap to an IP Address in your browser (trying to get that fixed....), but the path works fine. Also, you want the method to be Post, so it sends the information through as a form. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 5:27 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Drew: Yes I am... here is the code fragment from the search Form tag: ...
... You should be able to receive and manage the query string variable 'SearchString'. There might be so other issues but this is the sending syntax. I have never had a chance to actually test the process of transferring a query string to a remote site but this is the setting as read. HTH Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:04 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Actually Jim, are you putting this into an HTML form? If so, can you just name the 'search' button 'Search', with a value of 'Search', and then the 'textbox' name as SearchString (as you have it). Right now, my ASP page looks for that value for the submit button, to do the search. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 4:28 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Hi Drew: I was not trying to imply you should get on to the archive issue. I was just stating an observation. While we are on the subject, could you set your index page to check for an incoming query strings, named 'SearchString'; I think it is variable name you use. If the value is null, display normally else, fill SearchString variable from the contents of the received query string 'SearchString' and process the search. I guess the content/memo field should be the default field for searching? What do you think? This will/should only be a short-term fix until a more permanent home for the archive can be found. Thank you so much for all your work and effort. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 1:51 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Okay, the archive will be fully available sometime very early Wednesday morning. I was working on writing the new ASP interface (well, the code behind it), and discovered that my indexer was chopping off the last letter of each word it was indexing. Long story. So after fixing that bug, I had to re-index the Memo fields. At 2 pm today, it had indexed 10,000 records (a little more...but close enough), and I 'restarted' the indexer last night at 3 am. So in about 11 hours it did 10,000, there are about 40,000 records in the database, so it's going to be about 33 hours from 2 this afternoon. (Also, the searching is there, just not totally complete....it'll take me a few hours to finish up the pages themselves, probably do that tonight) Drew > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:22 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > John: From someone on this list...need the archive. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 12:28 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > Nope, just starting to append records. And where did you get 65K > records maximum? > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 1:47 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > Hi John: > > You have not exceeded the maximum of 65000 records by any chance? > > Just a thought > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:09 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > In fact I was just appending the same data twice. I have a unique > index on a combination of fields that should prevent the data from going > in a second time. This was just a test of that index to make sure the > data would not go in again. > > In fact though the user may end up importing several different > files, one after another. The entire process is to ask the user to find > the file, copy it to a specific file name in a specific directory so that > the link works correctly, copy the original to a backup directory, then > run the append queries to get the data out of the spreadsheets and into > the table. From there a "all records in the previous" and "all records > NOT in the previous" will be run for reporting purposes. > > It shouldn't matter what I am doing though. If it runs once, it > should run a million times. It may very well come back and say "X records > could not be appended..." because of the unique index, but it should NOT > give me this "numeric overflow" error. According to help that means that > "the data is too big for a btrieve field" or some such. IOW, one of those > useless error messages. The fact that the data actually imports makes it > even more suspicious. > > I just don't want to send out work that pops up useless error > messages and has to be exited and reloaded in order to work. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Wortz, > Charles > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 11:11 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > > JC, > > You got me confused when you say "The append process works the first > time it is run, then the second time, I get a Numeric Overflow." > What > are you doing the second time? Appending the same data to the same > records, or appending some other data to some other records, or > what? > > Charles Wortz > Software Development Division > Texas Education Agency > 1701 N. Congress Ave > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > 512-463-9493 > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com] > Sent: Monday 2003 Mar 31 10:01 > To: AccessD > Subject: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > Guys, > > It's been awhile since I have dealt with A97. I am doing an import > of > data from excel spreadsheets. The data in the spreadsheet is a dbl > datatype, but is really a long int, i.e. no decimal points. I am > linking the spreadsheet, whereupon I see that the datatype of the > field > is dbl. I build a base query that runs these fields through a > clng() to > convert them to long integers. I then append the data into a table. > The append process works the first time it is run, then the second > time, > I get a Numeric Overflow. I get the overflow between the "you are > about > to..." warning and the "X records did not append..." error. In fact > that second error never occurs. Once the error occurs, I have to > shut > down the db and re-open it, whereupon the query will run > successfully > one time, then the error again. > > I am at SP2 for A97, and I don't remember what the latest SP is for > A97. > > Has anyone ever seen this problem? > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. > Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com << File: ATT00050.txt >> << > File: ATT00097.txt >> > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Is email taking over your day? 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(For temporary debug purposes...) Maybe we could discuss this further, off-line as it is straying very close to totally list off-topic... Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 12:10 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search archives: was Access 97 - Numeric field overflow I just got curious and pasted the HTML from your post into a page on my local machine. When I click search I get to your page but that's it. I can post the code on a web server if you want to see it but it's really nothing more than you posted below. Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 2:52 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search archives: was Access 97 - Numeric field overflow What's the page you are trying this from? (So I can take a look at it.) Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 6:58 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search archives: was Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Drew, All this does is load your search page with no values loaded. Should it load the value passed in "SearchString" and/or perform the search too (just curious)? Thanks, Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:48 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Okay, here's what you should have: Search:
The IP Address you have was with my old ISP. Just use the domain name. (Right now, going to www.wolfwares.com will swap to an IP Address in your browser (trying to get that fixed....), but the path works fine. Also, you want the method to be Post, so it sends the information through as a form. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 5:27 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Drew: Yes I am... here is the code fragment from the search Form tag: ...
... You should be able to receive and manage the query string variable 'SearchString'. There might be so other issues but this is the sending syntax. I have never had a chance to actually test the process of transferring a query string to a remote site but this is the setting as read. HTH Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:04 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Actually Jim, are you putting this into an HTML form? If so, can you just name the 'search' button 'Search', with a value of 'Search', and then the 'textbox' name as SearchString (as you have it). Right now, my ASP page looks for that value for the submit button, to do the search. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 4:28 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Hi Drew: I was not trying to imply you should get on to the archive issue. I was just stating an observation. While we are on the subject, could you set your index page to check for an incoming query strings, named 'SearchString'; I think it is variable name you use. If the value is null, display normally else, fill SearchString variable from the contents of the received query string 'SearchString' and process the search. I guess the content/memo field should be the default field for searching? What do you think? This will/should only be a short-term fix until a more permanent home for the archive can be found. Thank you so much for all your work and effort. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 1:51 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow Okay, the archive will be fully available sometime very early Wednesday morning. I was working on writing the new ASP interface (well, the code behind it), and discovered that my indexer was chopping off the last letter of each word it was indexing. Long story. So after fixing that bug, I had to re-index the Memo fields. At 2 pm today, it had indexed 10,000 records (a little more...but close enough), and I 'restarted' the indexer last night at 3 am. So in about 11 hours it did 10,000, there are about 40,000 records in the database, so it's going to be about 33 hours from 2 this afternoon. (Also, the searching is there, just not totally complete....it'll take me a few hours to finish up the pages themselves, probably do that tonight) Drew > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:22 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > John: From someone on this list...need the archive. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 12:28 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > Nope, just starting to append records. And where did you get 65K > records maximum? > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 1:47 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > Hi John: > > You have not exceeded the maximum of 65000 records by any chance? > > Just a thought > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:09 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > In fact I was just appending the same data twice. I have a unique > index on a combination of fields that should prevent the data from going > in a second time. This was just a test of that index to make sure the > data would not go in again. > > In fact though the user may end up importing several different > files, one after another. The entire process is to ask the user to find > the file, copy it to a specific file name in a specific directory so that > the link works correctly, copy the original to a backup directory, then > run the append queries to get the data out of the spreadsheets and into > the table. From there a "all records in the previous" and "all records > NOT in the previous" will be run for reporting purposes. > > It shouldn't matter what I am doing though. If it runs once, it > should run a million times. It may very well come back and say "X records > could not be appended..." because of the unique index, but it should NOT > give me this "numeric overflow" error. According to help that means that > "the data is too big for a btrieve field" or some such. IOW, one of those > useless error messages. The fact that the data actually imports makes it > even more suspicious. > > I just don't want to send out work that pops up useless error > messages and has to be exited and reloaded in order to work. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Wortz, > Charles > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 11:11 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > > JC, > > You got me confused when you say "The append process works the first > time it is run, then the second time, I get a Numeric Overflow." > What > are you doing the second time? Appending the same data to the same > records, or appending some other data to some other records, or > what? > > Charles Wortz > Software Development Division > Texas Education Agency > 1701 N. Congress Ave > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > 512-463-9493 > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com] > Sent: Monday 2003 Mar 31 10:01 > To: AccessD > Subject: [AccessD] Access 97 - Numeric field overflow > > Guys, > > It's been awhile since I have dealt with A97. I am doing an import > of > data from excel spreadsheets. The data in the spreadsheet is a dbl > datatype, but is really a long int, i.e. no decimal points. I am > linking the spreadsheet, whereupon I see that the datatype of the > field > is dbl. I build a base query that runs these fields through a > clng() to > convert them to long integers. I then append the data into a table. > The append process works the first time it is run, then the second > time, > I get a Numeric Overflow. I get the overflow between the "you are > about > to..." warning and the "X records did not append..." error. In fact > that second error never occurs. Once the error occurs, I have to > shut > down the db and re-open it, whereupon the query will run > successfully > one time, then the error again. > > I am at SP2 for A97, and I don't remember what the latest SP is for > A97. > > Has anyone ever seen this problem? > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. > Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com << File: ATT00050.txt >> << > File: ATT00097.txt >> > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Is email taking over your day? 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If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HS/HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. 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"Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." -- Benjamin Franklin -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Wortz, Charles Sent: April 1, 2003 4:07 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL You mean we missed the death notice and funeral? Or are you one of the evil doctors injecting the fatal solution into ADP's veins as we speak? Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 01 15:02 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Unfortunately, ADPs are dead. (Don't quote me on that, just take my word for it.) "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." -- Benjamin Franklin _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From artful at rogers.com Tue Apr 1 17:52:01 2003 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 18:52:01 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <02d801c2f8a9$b05d6f30$8e01a8c0@Rock> I can't say more without violating NDAs but take my word, and I'm surprised you could question this since you have identical access and identical NDAs. Haven't you read the docs? "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." -- Benjamin Franklin -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Zeller Sent: April 1, 2003 4:36 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Arthur, how can you drop a statement like that without more info. What do you mean they are dead? Is something else going to come to life in their place? Should I be preparing for this in some way? --Susan -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 3:02 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Unfortunately, ADPs are dead. (Don't quote me on that, just take my word for it.) "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." -- Benjamin Franklin -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Zeller Sent: April 1, 2003 3:05 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL In my expereince ADP's are significantly faster than MDB's for the FE b/c ADP uses OLEDB connection. I've found ODBC connections to be very slow. Once in an ADP, start making sprocs do all the work. You can make sprocs very efficient and then your application will be at lightening speed. --Susan -----Original Message----- From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 12:03 PM To: AccessD (E-mail) Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL We had an app (mdb FE/mdb BE) that was performing horribly across a WAN. We moved the BE into SQL Server 2K which helped a bit but I'm wondering if converting the FE to an ADP would do this one step better (this after reading Arthur's excellent article on TechRepublic.com, thanks to Francisco for the pointer). Anyone have an idea? Thanks, Jim DeMarco Director of Product Development HealthSource/Hudson Health Plan ************************************************************************ *********** "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from HealthSource/Hudson Health Plan (HS/HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. 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Colby) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 19:10:50 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] VBE In-Reply-To: <010a01c2f893$d1dd56e0$b9e6ffcc@SusanOne> Message-ID: Susan, I have to agree with Drew on this one. VBA means Visual Basic for Applications. It is a subset (mostly) of VB. What you are saying is that you have no clue how to open the VBA IDE to do development in other Office Applications. However, once you get that IDE open and learn how to use it (and it's supposed to be identical now between all Office Apps from 2K on), VBA itself is the same from app to app, at least from A2K onwards. Access 97 and backwards used it's own "kinda sorta VBA". Now it is the real banana. And then, like Drew is saying, on top of VBA is SOME object model that is native to the Office Application environment that you happen to be in - Access, Word, Excel etc. That object model is nothing more than a bunch of classes that create objects specific to that application, whether it is a paragraph in Word, a cell in Excel or a subform in Access. Regardless of that object model, strip that object model away, and you are left with VBA which IS IDENTICAL from app to app. Modules, Classes, Functions, Subs, Collections, arrays, if/then/else, where wend, integers, strings, the Error object - all THAT stuff is VBA. ALL THAT stuff is identical from App to App. The object model is NOT VBA, it is a layer on TOP of VBA. An integrated set of objects that know how to be a Word document, a spreadsheet, or a database FE. Once you reference the word object inside of Access, you have the same capabilities that you have inside of Word directly. Reference that Word object inside of Excel and you have the same set of capabilities as you had in Access (or Word) - to manipulate DOCUMENTS. So, you have VBA which is the same exact set of keywords and structures. VBA is available from all of the Office applications. Inside of each application, you have an object model which is NATIVE to that application, which is not part of VBA but is called from VBA. AFAIK, these object models, Word, Excel, Access, PowerPoint etc are also available to call from VB (the REAL VB programming language). Which further demonstrates the interface line which separates the Office Application object model from the VBA language. To make this crystal clear, try PROGRAMMING the object model without the language. You can't! If you dim a variable you are using VBA. Since you can't even set a variable to an object from the model without a DIM, you are dead in the water without VBA (or VB). John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 4:13 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBE I think Charlotte's point is, and in Fuller Fashion, I agree -- you can be an expert at VBA in Access and not know cr*p about using VBA in Word or Excel. Susan H. > I still disagree with you on this Charlotte. If you are in Access, Excel, > or Word, and you write this: > > Dim strTemp As String > strTemp="Hello" > msgbox InStr(1,strTemp,"l") > > You are going to get a message box that says '3' no matter what Office > program you are in. > > Now, when you are in Access, and you write: > > DoCmd.Quit > > Yes, that code only works in Access 'as is'. But that is because you want > to have the object model of the application you are running, already loaded, > and acting as a 'default'.....wouldn't you? > > The reason I am being so adament/argumentative on this thread, is because I > feel it is FAR more important to understand the principles of programming in > VB/VBA (or whatever language you choose), then it is to understand the > details of the object model you are in. By that, I mean that once you have > learned what events are, how functions and subs work, how a class module > works, etc. You have the understanding of VB/VBA, which is universal no > matter what you are in for a development tool. I hardly ever write code > within Excel, and I have only written code within Word once, but I had/have > no problem doing so, because the language and principles are the same, it is > only a matter of finding what properties and methods are available for the > current object model, and what special objects I will be dealing with. > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:07 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > I know that, Drew. The point is that the object model is entirely > different, so aren't writing the same code at all, regardless of which > VBE you use. > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:48 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > Actually, you're still using VBA. The language is still the same. > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 7:47 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > But when you program Word from within Access, you still have to use the > Word object model. You aren't programming Access, you're programming > Word. It isn't the same thing at all. > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 4:58 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > It is the same, you just have a different 'default' object. You can > program stuff for Word within Access, and Access within Word, right? > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:45 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > That's like saying that programming Word and Access is the same, you > just have a different object model to deal with! > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 2:23 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > The language is almost identical, you just have a different object model > to deal with. > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 4:07 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > To learn what in, Drew? Access VBA programming isn't the same as VB > anyhow. > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 1:46 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > I think the VB 6.0 'look' in A2k and up feels funny in Access because it > appears to 'seperate' the code from the objects. In VB 6.0 itself, you > work on the VB forms in the same environment, so there is no disconnect. > Same with Access 97. However, in A2k and up, you have this 'split', > where the code is worked on 'seperately'. Personally I think it's a bad > environment to learn in. > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:00 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > I thought it was just me. Love the IDE in VB 6.0 but feels weird in > Access! > > Jim DeMarco > > -----Original Message----- > From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:57 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > Me too. > > In fact, when I started using VB 6.0, and was presented with an > interface slightly different from what I was used to in Access 97, it > took a little to get used too, but I learned to like VB 6.0's VBE. > However, when I then started messing with Access 2000, I found that I > didn't like that same 'VBE' style in Access....I prefered the way Access > 97 handled things. One thing that I love being able to do in Access 97, > is to have a form open, with it's code page just beneath it. Let's you > edit or run your code without having to flip flop windows. > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 2:35 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > I always called it Nice! > > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 2:13 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > Really? I would consider the code environment in 97 to be a VBE. You > get VB like menus, it is a VB environment. Sure, it doesn't show up > exactly like VB, but I have always called it the VBE. > > Just curious, have I been wrong all this time, and if so, what do you > call the VB environment in 97? > > Drew > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com] > > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 8:13 PM > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > > 2k > > > > John W. Colby > > Colby Consulting > > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan > > Harkins > > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 8:51 PM > > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: [AccessD] VBE > > > > > > Did the VBE first show up in 97 or 2000? > > > > Susan H. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. 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"Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." -- Benjamin Franklin -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Wortz, Charles Sent: April 1, 2003 4:07 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL You mean we missed the death notice and funeral? Or are you one of the evil doctors injecting the fatal solution into ADP's veins as we speak? Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 01 15:02 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Unfortunately, ADPs are dead. (Don't quote me on that, just take my word for it.) "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." -- Benjamin Franklin _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ---------------------------------------------------- Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2492 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com Tue Apr 1 18:21:09 2003 From: jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 19:21:09 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] VBE In-Reply-To: <657FB70438B7D311AF320090279C1801026D79A2@EXCHMAIL> Message-ID: And he HATES it when I do that too! ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David McAfee Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 7:26 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE THAT'S IT!!! The end of the world is coming !!! JC agreeing with Drew???. :) -----Original Message----- From: John W. Colby Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 4:11 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE I have to agree with Drew on this one. << File: ATT00222.txt >> ---------------------------------------------------- Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 1880 bytes Desc: not available URL: From DWUTKA at marlow.com Tue Apr 1 18:25:09 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 18:25:09 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] VBE Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82558@main2.marlow.com> I'm beginning to feel light headed! Drew (Just yanking your chain a bit...it feels wierd being on the same side of a debate...with you! ) > -----Original Message----- > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 6:11 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > Susan, > > I have to agree with Drew on this one. From artful at rogers.com Tue Apr 1 18:33:24 2003 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 19:33:24 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <02f401c2f8af$78e84b50$8e01a8c0@Rock> Sorry. "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." -- Benjamin Franklin > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] > Sent: April 1, 2003 7:16 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL > > So tell me something.net is replacing it and I will whoop with joy! > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2124 bytes Desc: not available URL: From DWUTKA at marlow.com Tue Apr 1 18:34:26 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 18:34:26 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] VBE Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82559@main2.marlow.com> JC, what in the world did we do, that has the list thinking we're Vader and Skywalker, or Robert E. Lee and Ulysses S. Grant? Drew > -----Original Message----- > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 6:21 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > And he HATES it when I do that too! ;-) > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David McAfee > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 7:26 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > THAT'S IT!!! The end of the world is coming !!! > > JC agreeing with Drew???. > > :) > > Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com << File: ATT01113.txt >> From lexacorp at global.net.pg Tue Apr 1 18:36:02 2003 From: lexacorp at global.net.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 10:36:02 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] VBE Message-ID: <3e8a3072.12d8c.574156777@global.net.pg> > The object model is NOT VBA, it is a layer on TOP of VBA. > An integrated set of objects that know how to be a Word > document, a spreadsheet, or a database FE. Once you > reference the word object inside of Access, you have the > same capabilities that you have inside of Word directly. > Reference that Word object inside of Excel and you have > the same set of capabilities as you had in Access (or > Word) - to manipulate DOCUMENTS. > So, you have VBA which is the same exact set of keywords > and structures. VBA is available from all of the Office > applications. Inside of each application, you have an > object model which is NATIVE to that application, which is > not part of VBA but is called from VBA. AFAIK, these > object models, Word, Excel, Access, PowerPoint etc are > also available to call from VB (the REAL VB programming > language). Which further demonstrates the interface line > which separates the Office Application object model from > the VBA language. > Not just VB. You can program the object model from many different languages - any that speak COM (including PBWin of course ). The Methods, properties etc remain exactly the same. The language you use can be completely different to VB/VBA. -------------------------------------- This Email Was brought to you by WebMail A Netwin Web Based EMail Client http://netwinsite.com/webmail/tag.htm From jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com Tue Apr 1 18:59:30 2003 From: jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 19:59:30 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] VBE In-Reply-To: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82559@main2.marlow.com> Message-ID: Actually Lee was my ancestor. But I'm way too old to be Skywalker and way too handsome to be Vader. ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 7:34 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE JC, what in the world did we do, that has the list thinking we're Vader and Skywalker, or Robert E. Lee and Ulysses S. Grant? Drew > -----Original Message----- > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 6:21 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > And he HATES it when I do that too! ;-) > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David McAfee > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 7:26 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > THAT'S IT!!! The end of the world is coming !!! > > JC agreeing with Drew???. > > :) > > Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com << File: ATT01113.txt >> _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ---------------------------------------------------- Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2216 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com Tue Apr 1 19:01:23 2003 From: jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 20:01:23 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] VBE In-Reply-To: <3e8a3072.12d8c.574156777@global.net.pg> Message-ID: I kind of figured that might be the case but never having seen mention of it didn't want to step on my tongue. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 7:36 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > The object model is NOT VBA, it is a layer on TOP of VBA. > An integrated set of objects that know how to be a Word > document, a spreadsheet, or a database FE. Once you > reference the word object inside of Access, you have the > same capabilities that you have inside of Word directly. > Reference that Word object inside of Excel and you have > the same set of capabilities as you had in Access (or > Word) - to manipulate DOCUMENTS. > So, you have VBA which is the same exact set of keywords > and structures. VBA is available from all of the Office > applications. Inside of each application, you have an > object model which is NATIVE to that application, which is > not part of VBA but is called from VBA. AFAIK, these > object models, Word, Excel, Access, PowerPoint etc are > also available to call from VB (the REAL VB programming > language). Which further demonstrates the interface line > which separates the Office Application object model from > the VBA language. > Not just VB. You can program the object model from many different languages - any that speak COM (including PBWin of course ). The Methods, properties etc remain exactly the same. The language you use can be completely different to VB/VBA. -------------------------------------- This Email Was brought to you by WebMail A Netwin Web Based EMail Client http://netwinsite.com/webmail/tag.htm _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ---------------------------------------------------- Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2708 bytes Desc: not available URL: From DMcAfee at haascnc.com Tue Apr 1 19:12:56 2003 From: DMcAfee at haascnc.com (David McAfee) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 17:12:56 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] VBE Message-ID: <657FB70438B7D311AF320090279C1801026D79A3@EXCHMAIL> or Millie & Vanillie :P or Drew & Mimi :) or Simon & Paula ;) nah... Luke and Vader... I like that -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 4:34 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE JC, what in the world did we do, that has the list thinking we're Vader and Skywalker, or Robert E. Lee and Ulysses S. Grant? Drew From rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com Tue Apr 1 20:20:36 2003 From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com (rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 20:20:36 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Message-ID: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A4EBC1F@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net> Okay, is there somewhere the rest of us can go to read about what you are talking about? Since you can't tell us anything more, at least point us in the right direction. > -----Original Message----- > From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 6:33 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL > > Sorry. > > "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." > -- Benjamin Franklin > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [] > Sent: April 1, 2003 7:16 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL > > So tell me something.net is replacing it and I will whoop with joy! > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > > > << File: ATT07438.txt >> From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Tue Apr 1 20:54:11 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 21:54:11 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Roz Got Married ...was Updating queries with linked tables References: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C83188039566AC@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk> Message-ID: <022e01c2f8c3$234e7250$6101a8c0@amd2k512> Message...to heck with queries Roz ...tell us about the wedding, the honeymoon ...and where the pics are? :)))) William Hindman "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill ----- Original Message ----- From: Roz Clarke To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:52 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables No blank record, all fields locked. It wouldn't surprise me if this is just a 'feature'. R. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: 01 April 2003 16:25 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Well, when you say "combine" -- I think of append or UNION. Relationships "join" records -- nothing wrong with the way you siad it -- I just thought I'd check to make sure. So here's the next question -- how do you know it's not updateable? Are you getting an error message? Is there a blank (new) record at the bottom of the query in Datasheet View? Susan H. Standard left outer join on staff ID - is there another way?! *bangs head on desk* R. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: 31-Mar-2003 17:20 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables How are you combining your tables? Susan H. What I'm finding (and I can't believe I never hit this before) is that although the SQL tables can be updated through the Access FE, and the local tables can be updated, combine them and wallop, not updateable. Even if all the key fields are included in the query. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hsimpson88 at hotmail.com Tue Apr 1 21:05:54 2003 From: hsimpson88 at hotmail.com (Henry Simpson) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 20:05:54 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Message-ID: You may want to take a peek at what Microsoft has being up to with the '.Net' label. I have the url below provided by an online magazine to which I'm subscribed. They have been backpedalling from the initial plan as there was no way they could sell... "It's a framework for how Microsoft is going to start offering software in the form of revenue-renewable services. Think "subscription model." Think "hosting." Think Microsoft Internet Strategy Day (Dec. 7, 1995) revisited." http://www.microsoft-watch.com/article2/0,4248,989331,00.asp Apparently this has left a real bad taste in many mouths and hasn't helped Microsoft one bit in its war with Sun. Fortunately they have been abandoning the association with .net to make their efforts more subtle and palatable. As development languages mature they generally become easier to work with and it would have been unfortunate to have more people converting to open source solely because of the negative association that .Net implies. Hen >From: "John W. Colby" >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >To: >Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL >Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 19:15:33 -0500 > >So tell me something.net is replacing it and I will whoop with joy! > >John W. Colby >Colby Consulting >www.ColbyConsulting.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller >Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 6:49 PM >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL > > >Neither. There is no more vigilant champion of ADPs than I, but the writing >is on MS's wall. ADPs are dead. Bummer to the maz! > > >"Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." >-- Benjamin Franklin > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Wortz, Charles >Sent: April 1, 2003 4:07 PM >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL > > >You mean we missed the death notice and funeral? Or are you one of >the evil doctors injecting the fatal solution into ADP's veins as we speak? > > >Charles Wortz >Software Development Division >Texas Education Agency >1701 N. Congress Ave >Austin, TX 78701-1494 >512-463-9493 >CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] >Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 01 15:02 >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL > >Unfortunately, ADPs are dead. (Don't quote me on that, just take my word >for >it.) > >"Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." >-- Benjamin Franklin >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > >---------------------------------------------------- >Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. >Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com ><< winmail.dat >> >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com Tue Apr 1 21:15:36 2003 From: jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 22:15:36 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL In-Reply-To: <02f401c2f8af$78e84b50$8e01a8c0@Rock> Message-ID: Arthur, Would you contact me? I am on the beta team for 2003. I was supposed to writing a part of a book but the publishing company went under. 8-( I'd like to know what you know and where I can go to read up on it. The latest Beta2Kit 2003 had more CDs than you can shake a stick at, and since I'm not doing the book (and am busy) I haven't looked at any of it. Is there a beta team area on the web site? John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 7:33 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Sorry. "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." -- Benjamin Franklin -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [] Sent: April 1, 2003 7:16 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL So tell me something.net is replacing it and I will whoop with joy! John W. Colby Colby Consulting << File: ATT00240.txt >> ---------------------------------------------------- Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2232 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com Tue Apr 1 21:23:28 2003 From: jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 22:23:28 -0500 Subject: >net - was RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yea, I get that newsletter. The .net branding was going overboard a little. As a programmer I am very impressed with the .net framework however. I started reading the forms chapter of the book I'm studying and the things that are just built in are really awesome. Trying to get a handle on it just reading a book is rough sledding, I can tell you that. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Henry Simpson Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:06 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL You may want to take a peek at what Microsoft has being up to with the '.Net' label. I have the url below provided by an online magazine to which I'm subscribed. They have been backpedalling from the initial plan as there was no way they could sell... "It's a framework for how Microsoft is going to start offering software in the form of revenue-renewable services. Think "subscription model." Think "hosting." Think Microsoft Internet Strategy Day (Dec. 7, 1995) revisited." http://www.microsoft-watch.com/article2/0,4248,989331,00.asp Apparently this has left a real bad taste in many mouths and hasn't helped Microsoft one bit in its war with Sun. Fortunately they have been abandoning the association with .net to make their efforts more subtle and palatable. As development languages mature they generally become easier to work with and it would have been unfortunate to have more people converting to open source solely because of the negative association that .Net implies. Hen >From: "John W. Colby" >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >To: >Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL >Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 19:15:33 -0500 > >So tell me something.net is replacing it and I will whoop with joy! > >John W. Colby >Colby Consulting >www.ColbyConsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------- Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Wed Apr 2 00:58:24 2003 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 22:58:24 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Compact/Repair doesn't work in XP when file on the network References: Message-ID: <3E8A8A10.4080507@shaw.ca> Is this a wireless Network by any chance, you may have an incompatible MTU networking setting. The symptoms of this problem are choppy network performance, partial Web page downloads, and unexplained pauses. Susan Zeller wrote: >Recently upgraded to Windows XP and Office XP. MDB files now will not >compact and repair when they are located on the network. Error message >says the file is already in use even if the file is not open by any >other users at the time. This message happens in Access XP 2000 file >format and Access XP 2002 file format. It does not happen when the file >is on the C drive. I have not been able to recreate this in an adp >file. Making things a bit more confusing, occassionally, files do >compact and repair even on the network. Haven't found any similarities >with this. Anybody had experience with this or know anything? Can't >find anything about it in KB. > >Thanks. > >--Susan > > > >Susan B. Zeller >Office of Information Systems >College of Continuing Education >University of Minnesota >306 Wesbrook Hall >77 Pleasant Street SE >Minneapolis, MN 55455 >Phone: 612-626-4785 >Fax: 612-625-2568 > > >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > From Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Wed Apr 2 01:55:59 2003 From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK (Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 08:55:59 +0100 (BST) Subject: [AccessD] Office 11 BETA testers In-Reply-To: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE6305091AD@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com> References: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE6305091AD@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com> Message-ID: <1049270159.3e8a978fc0113@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Guilty Quoting Jeff Barrows : > I was just wondering how many people on this list are Beta Testers for > Office 11? > > Jeff Barrows > Outbak Technologies, LLC > Racine, WI > Phone: (262) 634-0653 > Mailto: jeff at outbaktech.com > www.outbaktech.com > ICQ # 8739060 > > From paul.hartland at fsmail.net Wed Apr 2 02:00:27 2003 From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 8:00:27 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] Compact/Repair doesn't work in XP when file on the network Message-ID: <20030402080027.BBV25629.fep04-svc.ttys.com@localhost> We have recently upgraded to windows/Office Xp, and as a personal point of view, I think it is utter crap, I get the same message when trying to compact and repair, also we have had the same program die 3 times since upgrading our software and hardware.... From: "Susan Zeller" Date: Tue 01/Apr/2003 22:03 GMT To: Subject: [AccessD] Compact/Repair doesn't work in XP when file on the network Recently upgraded to Windows XP and Office XP. MDB files now will not compact and repair when they are located on the network. Error message says the file is already in use even if the file is not open by any other users at the time. This message happens in Access XP 2000 file format and Access XP 2002 file format. It does not happen when the file is on the C drive. I have not been able to recreate this in an adp file. Making things a bit more confusing, occassionally, files do compact and repair even on the network. Haven't found any similarities with this. Anybody had experience with this or know anything? Can't find anything about it in KB. Thanks. --Susan Susan B. 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From jmoss111 at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 2 02:24:12 2003 From: jmoss111 at bellsouth.net (JMoss) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 02:24:12 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Office 11 BETA testers References: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE6305091AD@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com> Message-ID: <00b601c2f8f1$3d87c530$42bb5041@jlmoss> It's the only version of Office that I am currently using, although 97/2000/XP are also loaded. I'm currently using DataJunction and Access 11 for an ETL project. I used FrontPage 2003 to build a photo gallery for some eBay auctions. I used Excel 2003 to web query an .aspx page; the .xls is a linked table in Access 11 which is used for remote reporting. I haven't loaded the Windows Server 2003 though. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Barrows To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:42 PM Subject: [AccessD] Office 11 BETA testers I was just wondering how many people on this list are Beta Testers for Office 11? 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Drew From jmoss111 at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 2 03:15:19 2003 From: jmoss111 at bellsouth.net (JMoss) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 03:15:19 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Gripe with Apple... References: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D8255A@main2.marlow.com> Message-ID: <001101c2f8f8$61be1420$42bb5041@jlmoss> Didn't you know that he invented apples, oranges, and grapes? I'm sorry to say that he calls Tennessee home, but we don't claim him so please don't hold that against us.......... Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Drew Wutka" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 3:00 AM Subject: [AccessD] OT: Gripe with Apple... > Sorry for the OT, but I just read an article (very brief, and probably weeks > old), that mentioned that Al Gore is now on the Board of Directors of > Apple....... > > Just one more reason to not like Macs! > > > > Drew > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Wed Apr 2 04:37:02 2003 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 12:37:02 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL In-Reply-To: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A4EBC1F@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net> References: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A4EBC1F@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net> Message-ID: <17413511738.20030402123702@cactus.dk> Hi Rusty Agree. If there is nothing to tell us, keep this oh-so-secret mumble-jumble off line. /gustav > Okay, is there somewhere the rest of us can go to read about what you are > talking about? Since you can't tell us anything more, at least point us in > the right direction. >> Sorry. >>> So tell me something.net is replacing it and I will whoop with joy! From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Wed Apr 2 04:55:13 2003 From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 11:55:13 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL In-Reply-To: <17413511738.20030402123702@cactus.dk> Message-ID: <000a01c2f906$568d8370$9111758f@aine> Sometimes due to various relationships we have with Microsoft we are given Access to information that is not normally made public. As a service to the list I sometimes make some of that available even though if MS find out I get sacked. The nature of my own relationship with them prohibits me from speaking in public about changes to certain software. I have in fact several legal agreements with them. I assume Arthur is in the same boat. Now I do know the reason behind his statement and like Arthur cannot go into detail in Public. I did say some time ago that the ability to work with SQL Stored Procedures etc in a non graphical environment will at a future point become very useful. That relying on graphical tools to get the job done may not protect you from future developments with both Microsoft Access and SQL Server. When possible if I think the information is useful I will post but the nature of the relationship with MS means we cannot be real explicit about what's going on or possibility going on and have to trust that people will read between the lines. Martin Martin WP Reid Analyst/Trainer Information Service 02890 273750 -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: 02 April 2003 11:37 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Hi Rusty Agree. If there is nothing to tell us, keep this oh-so-secret mumble-jumble off line. /gustav > Okay, is there somewhere the rest of us can go to read about what you are > talking about? Since you can't tell us anything more, at least point us in > the right direction. >> Sorry. >>> So tell me something.net is replacing it and I will whoop with joy! _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From scott.marcus at ae.ge.com Wed Apr 2 05:39:10 2003 From: scott.marcus at ae.ge.com (Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting)) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 06:39:10 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] VBE Message-ID: <768A0EA6FF8CB34FA522978966E5D52E559D55@bwam02msx.ae.ge.com> I just wanna know who is the father(Vader) and who is the son(Luke). -----Original Message----- From: David McAfee [mailto:DMcAfee at haascnc.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:13 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE or Millie & Vanillie :P or Drew & Mimi :) or Simon & Paula ;) nah... Luke and Vader... I like that -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 4:34 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE JC, what in the world did we do, that has the list thinking we're Vader and Skywalker, or Robert E. Lee and Ulysses S. Grant? Drew _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Wed Apr 2 05:47:02 2003 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 13:47:02 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL In-Reply-To: <000a01c2f906$568d8370$9111758f@aine> References: <000a01c2f906$568d8370$9111758f@aine> Message-ID: <7217711838.20030402134702@cactus.dk> Hi Martin This is fair and I think we all appreciate your comments. However, just yelling out that this and that and Jet is dead is not useful at all. On the contrary, it causes a lot of concern. /gustav > Sometimes due to various relationships we have with Microsoft we are > given Access to information that is not normally made public. As a > service to the list I sometimes make some of that available even though > if MS find out I get sacked. The nature of my own relationship with them > prohibits me from speaking in public about changes to certain software. > I have in fact several legal agreements with them. > I assume Arthur is in the same boat. Now I do know the reason behind his > statement and like Arthur cannot go into detail in Public. I did say > some time ago that the ability to work with SQL Stored Procedures etc in > a non graphical environment will at a future point become very useful. > That relying on graphical tools to get the job done may not protect you > from future developments with both Microsoft Access and SQL Server. > When possible if I think the information is useful I will post but the > nature of the relationship with MS means we cannot be real explicit > about what's going on or possibility going on and have to trust that > people will read between the lines. > Martin > Martin WP Reid > Analyst/Trainer > Information Service > 02890 273750 > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock > Sent: 02 April 2003 11:37 > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL > Hi Rusty > Agree. > If there is nothing to tell us, keep this oh-so-secret mumble-jumble > off line. > /gustav >> Okay, is there somewhere the rest of us can go to read about what you >> are >> talking about? Since you can't tell us anything more, at least point >> us in the right direction. >>> Sorry. >>>> So tell me something.net is replacing it and I will whoop with joy! From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com Wed Apr 2 06:02:57 2003 From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 06:02:57 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time Message-ID: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A08ECB0F5@exchange.pgdp> Well I got it for 60.00. The only thing, they said I would either have to get a tax number or go through a temp agency. Well everyone knows what happens when you go through an agency... I would end up with probably 30 of that. So, how do I go about getting a tax number?? Is there anything else I would need to do? Virginia From artful at rogers.com Wed Apr 2 06:20:28 2003 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 07:20:28 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Office 11 BETA testers In-Reply-To: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE6305091AD@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com> Message-ID: <035901c2f912$3f8b5a60$8e01a8c0@Rock> I am and have installed everything, but have only looked at about half the pieces. "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." -- Benjamin Franklin -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Barrows Sent: April 1, 2003 10:43 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Office 11 BETA testers I was just wondering how many people on this list are Beta Testers for Office 11? 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I'm sorry to say that he calls Tennessee home, but we don't claim him so please don't hold that against us.......... Jim From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk Wed Apr 2 07:00:38 2003 From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 14:00:38 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Roz Got Married ...was Updating queries with linke d tables Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C83188039566C1@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk> LOL OK I'll tell, but remember I'm supposed to be setting a good example!! Pics aren't up anywhere as yet, hopefully we can get that done tonight before folks lose interest :) As you can see, I'm honeymooning in the office, but the wedding itself was completely fab. Marrying Paul was the most exciting moment of my whole life, the venue was ace, we both shook all the way through the ceremony, people cried, my hair was fantastic (ask Pamela, she's had a photo), I mean, it was just wonderful. And it was OURS I guess you always think your own will be the best wedding you've been to (and it was) but so many other people said the same thing that I have to believe it was a good wedding! I can't send photos from here but if anyone wants one, mail me at zora_db at yahoo.com and I'll send one when I get home tonight. -----Original Message----- From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] Sent: 02 April 2003 03:54 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Roz Got Married ...was Updating queries with linked tables ...to heck with queries Roz ...tell us about the wedding, the honeymoon ...and where the pics are? :)))) William Hindman "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill ----- Original Message ----- From: Roz Clarke To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:52 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables No blank record, all fields locked. It wouldn't surprise me if this is just a 'feature'. R. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: 01 April 2003 16:25 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Well, when you say "combine" -- I think of append or UNION. Relationships "join" records -- nothing wrong with the way you siad it -- I just thought I'd check to make sure. So here's the next question -- how do you know it's not updateable? Are you getting an error message? Is there a blank (new) record at the bottom of the query in Datasheet View? Susan H. Standard left outer join on staff ID - is there another way?! *bangs head on desk* R. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: 31-Mar-2003 17:20 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables How are you combining your tables? Susan H. What I'm finding (and I can't believe I never hit this before) is that although the SQL tables can be updated through the Access FE, and the local tables can be updated, combine them and wallop, not updateable. Even if all the key fields are included in the query. _____ _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _____ _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com Wed Apr 2 07:14:20 2003 From: jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 08:14:20 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time In-Reply-To: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A08ECB0F5@exchange.pgdp> Message-ID: Congrats!!! John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hollis,Virginia Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 7:03 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time Well I got it for 60.00. The only thing, they said I would either have to get a tax number or go through a temp agency. Well everyone knows what happens when you go through an agency... I would end up with probably 30 of that. So, how do I go about getting a tax number?? Is there anything else I would need to do? Virginia _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ---------------------------------------------------- Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. 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There is no more vigilant champion of ADPs than I, but the writing is on MS's wall. ADPs are dead. Bummer to the maz! "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." -- Benjamin Franklin -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Wortz, Charles Sent: April 1, 2003 4:07 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL You mean we missed the death notice and funeral? Or are you one of the evil doctors injecting the fatal solution into ADP's veins as we speak? Charles Wortz -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 01 15:02 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Unfortunately, ADPs are dead. (Don't quote me on that, just take my word for it.) "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." -- Benjamin Franklin From michael.mattys at adelphia.net Wed Apr 2 07:25:53 2003 From: michael.mattys at adelphia.net (Michael R Mattys) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 08:25:53 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time References: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A08ECB0F5@exchange.pgdp> Message-ID: <003f01c2f91b$63a6bc60$6401a8c0@default> Virginia, I think what you are looking to do is set yourself up as Doing Business As under a fictitious name. Your Social Security number will suffice as a tax ID unless you are selling a physical product. Visit your local small business association website for details on the paperwork that you need to file with the county you live in. (I'm sure there are more knowledgeable people here who could add to this...) Michael R. Mattys www.mattysconsulting.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hollis,Virginia" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 7:02 AM Subject: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time > Well I got it for 60.00. The only thing, they said I would either have to > get a tax number or go through a temp agency. Well everyone knows what > happens when you go through an agency... I would end up with probably 30 of > that. > > So, how do I go about getting a tax number?? Is there anything else I would > need to do? > > Virginia > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk Wed Apr 2 07:34:20 2003 From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 14:34:20 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C83188039566C3@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk> Susan All spot-on, unfortunately the query does meet all of the conditions you mention. Cascade updates are not available for linked SQL tables, however. I'll bet this will be helpful for someone else at some point! Thanks Roz -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: 01 April 2003 17:16 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Roz, not all queries are updateable. Here are some general rules: A query based on a single table is updateable if: The query contains no aggregate functions or refers to a query that contains an aggregate function. The query's Unique Values property is set to No. The query doesn't include a GROUP BY clause. A multi-table query with a one to one relationship is updateable provided all of the above conditions are true. A multi-table query with a one to many relationship is updateable on both sides as long as you don't violate referential integrity rules, and provided the above conditions are true. Try adding the foreign key value to the query -- did I read where you'd tried that? If that's the case, check referential integrity -- if it's enabled, also enable the cascade updates between the two tables. Keep in mind that the following aren't updateable, regardless: Crosstab, pass-through, and UNION (that's why I asked for the clarification about the word combine), multi-table queries based on three or more tabls in a many to one to many relationship, Totals view. Hope something there helps. Susan H. ----- Original Message ----- From: Roz Clarke To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:52 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables No blank record, all fields locked. It wouldn't surprise me if this is just a 'feature'. R. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: 01 April 2003 16:25 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Well, when you say "combine" -- I think of append or UNION. Relationships "join" records -- nothing wrong with the way you siad it -- I just thought I'd check to make sure. So here's the next question -- how do you know it's not updateable? Are you getting an error message? Is there a blank (new) record at the bottom of the query in Datasheet View? Susan H. Standard left outer join on staff ID - is there another way?! *bangs head on desk* R. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: 31-Mar-2003 17:20 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables How are you combining your tables? Susan H. What I'm finding (and I can't believe I never hit this before) is that although the SQL tables can be updated through the Access FE, and the local tables can be updated, combine them and wallop, not updateable. Even if all the key fields are included in the query. _____ _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _____ _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jimdettman at earthlink.net Wed Apr 2 07:40:31 2003 From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 08:40:31 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Office 11 BETA testers In-Reply-To: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE6305091AD@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com> Message-ID: I've got it, but haven't touched any of it. Way too busy... Jim Dettman President, Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc. (315) 699-3443 jimdettman at earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Barrows Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:43 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Office 11 BETA testers I was just wondering how many people on this list are Beta Testers for Office 11? Jeff Barrows Outbak Technologies, LLC Racine, WI Phone: (262) 634-0653 Mailto: jeff at outbaktech.com www.outbaktech.com ICQ # 8739060 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk Wed Apr 2 07:41:06 2003 From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 14:41:06 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Roz Got Married ...was Updating queries with linke d tables Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C83188039566C4@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk> My dad's very kindly put my sister's snaps on his site http://www.dcs.qmul.ac.uk/~keithc/wedding/ Roz -----Original Message----- From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] Sent: 02 April 2003 14:01 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Roz Got Married ...was Updating queries with linke d tables LOL OK I'll tell, but remember I'm supposed to be setting a good example!! Pics aren't up anywhere as yet, hopefully we can get that done tonight before folks lose interest :) As you can see, I'm honeymooning in the office, but the wedding itself was completely fab. Marrying Paul was the most exciting moment of my whole life, the venue was ace, we both shook all the way through the ceremony, people cried, my hair was fantastic (ask Pamela, she's had a photo), I mean, it was just wonderful. And it was OURS I guess you always think your own will be the best wedding you've been to (and it was) but so many other people said the same thing that I have to believe it was a good wedding! I can't send photos from here but if anyone wants one, mail me at zora_db at yahoo.com and I'll send one when I get home tonight. -----Original Message----- From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] Sent: 02 April 2003 03:54 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Roz Got Married ...was Updating queries with linked tables ...to heck with queries Roz ...tell us about the wedding, the honeymoon ...and where the pics are? :)))) William Hindman "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill ----- Original Message ----- From: Roz Clarke To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:52 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables No blank record, all fields locked. It wouldn't surprise me if this is just a 'feature'. R. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: 01 April 2003 16:25 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Well, when you say "combine" -- I think of append or UNION. Relationships "join" records -- nothing wrong with the way you siad it -- I just thought I'd check to make sure. So here's the next question -- how do you know it's not updateable? Are you getting an error message? Is there a blank (new) record at the bottom of the query in Datasheet View? Susan H. Standard left outer join on staff ID - is there another way?! *bangs head on desk* R. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: 31-Mar-2003 17:20 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables How are you combining your tables? Susan H. What I'm finding (and I can't believe I never hit this before) is that although the SQL tables can be updated through the Access FE, and the local tables can be updated, combine them and wallop, not updateable. Even if all the key fields are included in the query. _____ _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _____ _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Wed Apr 2 07:52:47 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 07:52:47 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] VBE Message-ID: Scott, They seem to trade places depending on the subject of the debate. And in some debates, they seem to represent two different versions of the Dark Side. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting) [mailto:scott.marcus at ae.ge.com] Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 02 05:39 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE I just wanna know who is the father(Vader) and who is the son(Luke). -----Original Message----- From: David McAfee [mailto:DMcAfee at haascnc.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:13 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE or Millie & Vanillie :P or Drew & Mimi :) or Simon & Paula ;) nah... Luke and Vader... I like that -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 4:34 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE JC, what in the world did we do, that has the list thinking we're Vader and Skywalker, or Robert E. Lee and Ulysses S. Grant? Drew From budge at magicaldesk.com Wed Apr 2 07:53:51 2003 From: budge at magicaldesk.com (budge at magicaldesk.com) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 21:53:51 +0800 Subject: [AccessD] Roz Got Married ...was Updating queries with linke d tables Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Wed Apr 2 08:02:46 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 08:02:46 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time Message-ID: Virginia, Glad to hear the good news. Michael gives good advice. Another source you may want to consult is your state's Secretary of State website. Since you are offering professional services you may be required to be licensed. For many professions all the license requires is a form to fill out and an additional tax to pay. Do get yourself some professional liability insurance. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Michael R Mattys [mailto:michael.mattys at adelphia.net] Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 02 07:26 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time Virginia, I think what you are looking to do is set yourself up as Doing Business As under a fictitious name. Your Social Security number will suffice as a tax ID unless you are selling a physical product. Visit your local small business association website for details on the paperwork that you need to file with the county you live in. (I'm sure there are more knowledgeable people here who could add to this...) Michael R. Mattys www.mattysconsulting.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hollis,Virginia" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 7:02 AM Subject: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time > Well I got it for 60.00. The only thing, they said I would either have > to get a tax number or go through a temp agency. Well everyone knows > what happens when you go through an agency... I would end up with > probably 30 of > that. > > So, how do I go about getting a tax number?? Is there anything else I would > need to do? > > Virginia From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Wed Apr 2 08:16:55 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 08:16:55 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Roz Got Married ...was Updating queries with linke d tables Message-ID: Roz, Beautiful bride, groom is a nice looking chap. May the two of you have a long and prosperous life together! But spending your honeymoon in the office does not sound like a good way to start your married life. The two of you need to get away for at least a few days. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 02 07:41 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Cc: 'keithc at dcs.qmul.ac.uk' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Roz Got Married ...was Updating queries with linke d tables My dad's very kindly put my sister's snaps on his site http://www.dcs.qmul.ac.uk/~keithc/wedding/ Roz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Wed Apr 2 08:22:15 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 08:22:15 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Continuous Form - open for either this month or last month Message-ID: Stuart and Scott, Thanks for your suggestions. They get me off dead center and moving again. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk Wed Apr 2 08:32:03 2003 From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 15:32:03 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Roz Got Married ...was Updating queries with linke d tables Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C83188039566CC@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk> Charles No need to cc my dad in on all our mails, eh? I just wanted him to know I had told people about the site. Thanks for the kind words. We will be spending a week in Italy at the end of the month :) Roz -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: 02 April 2003 15:17 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Cc: keithc at dcs.qmul.ac.uk Subject: RE: [AccessD] Roz Got Married ...was Updating queries with linke d tables Roz, Beautiful bride, groom is a nice looking chap. May the two of you have a long and prosperous life together! But spending your honeymoon in the office does not sound like a good way to start your married life. The two of you need to get away for at least a few days. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 02 07:41 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Cc: 'keithc at dcs.qmul.ac.uk' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Roz Got Married ...was Updating queries with linke d tables My dad's very kindly put my sister's snaps on his site http://www.dcs.qmul.ac.uk/~keithc/wedding/ Roz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From szeller at cce.umn.edu Wed Apr 2 08:37:54 2003 From: szeller at cce.umn.edu (Susan Zeller) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 08:37:54 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Roz Got Married ...was Updating queries with linke d tables Message-ID: Congratulations, Roz!! Although I don't know you, I can relate to your enthusiasm as a bride to be myself so I had to peak at the pictures. Everyone does look very happy! I'm sure it was truly a fabulous event. --Susan -----Original Message----- From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 7:41 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Cc: 'keithc at dcs.qmul.ac.uk' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Roz Got Married ...was Updating queries with linke d tables My dad's very kindly put my sister's snaps on his site http://www.dcs.qmul.ac.uk/~keithc/wedding/ Roz -----Original Message----- From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] Sent: 02 April 2003 14:01 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Roz Got Married ...was Updating queries with linke d tables LOL OK I'll tell, but remember I'm supposed to be setting a good example!! Pics aren't up anywhere as yet, hopefully we can get that done tonight before folks lose interest :) As you can see, I'm honeymooning in the office, but the wedding itself was completely fab. Marrying Paul was the most exciting moment of my whole life, the venue was ace, we both shook all the way through the ceremony, people cried, my hair was fantastic (ask Pamela, she's had a photo), I mean, it was just wonderful. And it was OURS I guess you always think your own will be the best wedding you've been to (and it was) but so many other people said the same thing that I have to believe it was a good wedding! I can't send photos from here but if anyone wants one, mail me at zora_db at yahoo.com and I'll send one when I get home tonight. -----Original Message----- From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] Sent: 02 April 2003 03:54 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Roz Got Married ...was Updating queries with linked tables ...to heck with queries Roz ...tell us about the wedding, the honeymoon ...and where the pics are? :)))) William Hindman "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill ----- Original Message ----- From: Roz Clarke To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:52 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables No blank record, all fields locked. It wouldn't surprise me if this is just a 'feature'. R. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: 01 April 2003 16:25 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Well, when you say "combine" -- I think of append or UNION. Relationships "join" records -- nothing wrong with the way you siad it -- I just thought I'd check to make sure. So here's the next question -- how do you know it's not updateable? Are you getting an error message? Is there a blank (new) record at the bottom of the query in Datasheet View? Susan H. Standard left outer join on staff ID - is there another way?! *bangs head on desk* R. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: 31-Mar-2003 17:20 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables How are you combining your tables? Susan H. What I'm finding (and I can't believe I never hit this before) is that although the SQL tables can be updated through the Access FE, and the local tables can be updated, combine them and wallop, not updateable. Even if all the key fields are included in the query. _____ _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _____ _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 2 08:53:49 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 09:53:49 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT / Roz Got Married References: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C83188039566C1@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk> Message-ID: <009301c2f927$abcbb4d0$6101a8c0@amd2k512> Message...ok ...change in subject to be PC ...but anytime one of our own has such a major life change, it is ON TOPIC as far as I'm concerned ...Pamela had already sent me some pics ...just thought the rest of AccessD would like to know how great you looked :))) William Hindman "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill ----- Original Message ----- From: Roz Clarke To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 8:00 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Roz Got Married ...was Updating queries with linked tables LOL OK I'll tell, but remember I'm supposed to be setting a good example!! Pics aren't up anywhere as yet, hopefully we can get that done tonight before folks lose interest :) As you can see, I'm honeymooning in the office, but the wedding itself was completely fab. Marrying Paul was the most exciting moment of my whole life, the venue was ace, we both shook all the way through the ceremony, people cried, my hair was fantastic (ask Pamela, she's had a photo), I mean, it was just wonderful. And it was OURS I guess you always think your own will be the best wedding you've been to (and it was) but so many other people said the same thing that I have to believe it was a good wedding! I can't send photos from here but if anyone wants one, mail me at zora_db at yahoo.com and I'll send one when I get home tonight. -----Original Message----- From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] Sent: 02 April 2003 03:54 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Roz Got Married ...was Updating queries with linked tables ...to heck with queries Roz ...tell us about the wedding, the honeymoon ...and where the pics are? :)))) William Hindman "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill ----- Original Message ----- From: Roz Clarke To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:52 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables No blank record, all fields locked. It wouldn't surprise me if this is just a 'feature'. R. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: 01 April 2003 16:25 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Well, when you say "combine" -- I think of append or UNION. Relationships "join" records -- nothing wrong with the way you siad it -- I just thought I'd check to make sure. So here's the next question -- how do you know it's not updateable? Are you getting an error message? Is there a blank (new) record at the bottom of the query in Datasheet View? Susan H. Standard left outer join on staff ID - is there another way?! *bangs head on desk* R. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: 31-Mar-2003 17:20 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables How are you combining your tables? Susan H. What I'm finding (and I can't believe I never hit this before) is that although the SQL tables can be updated through the Access FE, and the local tables can be updated, combine them and wallop, not updateable. 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URL: From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 2 09:11:22 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 10:11:22 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time References: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A08ECB0F5@exchange.pgdp> Message-ID: <00a301c2f92a$1ef2b380$6101a8c0@amd2k512> ...lots of things Virginia ...but the very FIRST thing you should do is get a mentor from your local SCORE chapter ...Service Core Of Retired Executives ...you'll get assigned to a retired business person with experience in your field in your state who volunteers his/her time specifically to help people like you cut through all the red tape and avoid some of the early mistakes that can kill you ...your local SBA office will put you in touch with them. ...everyone's experience is different but I can't tell you how many ways the SCORE mentor I had helped me ...he had all the local contacts I didn't ...knew what needed to be done first and what could wait ...all the legal and insurance stuff ...licenses, permits, etc. ...where to focus and what to prioritize ...what to avoid ...how to market ...as well as how not to ...so many things that you can read about and take courses in but just never seem to connect until its your butt on the line ...your mentor has been there and done it already ...not only himself but with others like you ...get the right one and he'll be like an extra arm for your first few months ...someone you can go see or call anytime you have a question ...and the real beauty is that if he/she doesn't know they almost certainly have ready access to someone who does ...and they WANT to help ...and they are FREE!!!! :) William Hindman "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hollis,Virginia" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 7:02 AM Subject: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time > Well I got it for 60.00. The only thing, they said I would either have to > get a tax number or go through a temp agency. Well everyone knows what > happens when you go through an agency... I would end up with probably 30 of > that. > > So, how do I go about getting a tax number?? Is there anything else I would > need to do? > > Virginia > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Wed Apr 2 09:24:44 2003 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 16:24:44 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] OT / Roz Got Married In-Reply-To: <009301c2f927$abcbb4d0$6101a8c0@amd2k512> Message-ID: <002e01c2f92b$fd54d3a0$b274d0d5@andypc> Seconded, thirded etc, just great. Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman Sent: 02 April 2003 15:54 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] OT / Roz Got Married ...ok ...change in subject to be PC ...but anytime one of our own has such a major life change, it is ON TOPIC as far as I'm concerned ...Pamela had already sent me some pics ...just thought the rest of AccessD would like to know how great you looked :))) William Hindman "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill ----- Original Message ----- From: Roz Clarke To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 8:00 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Roz Got Married ...was Updating queries with linked tables LOL OK I'll tell, but remember I'm supposed to be setting a good example!! Pics aren't up anywhere as yet, hopefully we can get that done tonight before folks lose interest :) As you can see, I'm honeymooning in the office, but the wedding itself was completely fab. Marrying Paul was the most exciting moment of my whole life, the venue was ace, we both shook all the way through the ceremony, people cried, my hair was fantastic (ask Pamela, she's had a photo), I mean, it was just wonderful. And it was OURS I guess you always think your own will be the best wedding you've been to (and it was) but so many other people said the same thing that I have to believe it was a good wedding! I can't send photos from here but if anyone wants one, mail me at zora_db at yahoo.com and I'll send one when I get home tonight. -----Original Message----- From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] Sent: 02 April 2003 03:54 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Roz Got Married ...was Updating queries with linked tables ...to heck with queries Roz ...tell us about the wedding, the honeymoon ...and where the pics are? :)))) William Hindman "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill ----- Original Message ----- From: Roz Clarke To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:52 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables No blank record, all fields locked. It wouldn't surprise me if this is just a 'feature'. R. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: 01 April 2003 16:25 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Well, when you say "combine" -- I think of append or UNION. Relationships "join" records -- nothing wrong with the way you siad it -- I just thought I'd check to make sure. So here's the next question -- how do you know it's not updateable? Are you getting an error message? Is there a blank (new) record at the bottom of the query in Datasheet View? Susan H. Standard left outer join on staff ID - is there another way?! *bangs head on desk* R. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: 31-Mar-2003 17:20 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables How are you combining your tables? Susan H. What I'm finding (and I can't believe I never hit this before) is that although the SQL tables can be updated through the Access FE, and the local tables can be updated, combine them and wallop, not updateable. 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URL: From harkins at iglou.com Wed Apr 2 09:17:19 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 10:17:19 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Office 11 BETA testers References: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE6305091AD@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com> <1049270159.3e8a978fc0113@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <01c901c2f92d$788c4b60$a4e6ffcc@SusanOne> He certainly is.... ;) I am too. Had it since 1.0 -- and node for the beta has been lifted I think -- hasn't it guys? Susan H. > Guilty > > Quoting Jeff Barrows : > > > I was just wondering how many people on this list are Beta Testers for > > Office 11? > > > > Jeff Barrows > > Outbak Technologies, LLC > > Racine, WI > > Phone: (262) 634-0653 > > Mailto: jeff at outbaktech.com > > www.outbaktech.com > > ICQ # 8739060 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From harkins at iglou.com Wed Apr 2 09:24:45 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 10:24:45 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL References: <000a01c2f906$568d8370$9111758f@aine> Message-ID: <01ca01c2f92d$79712d20$a4e6ffcc@SusanOne> > When possible if I think the information is useful I will post but the > nature of the relationship with MS means we cannot be real explicit > about what's going on or possibility going on and have to trust that > people will read between the lines. =======The result is, you just worry people about things that may be possible a few years into the future -- we all know by now that big changes are coming in Access 12 -- even the general public knows it -- but to scare people into wondering whether they'll be able to use their existing applications isn't a good thing Martin -- and I think that's all you two are doing -- making people worry. If you've got an MSDE version of Access and it works, it's going to work, period. If you want to keep it and a later version of Access, or more reasonably SQL Server no longer supports it, what have you lost? Nothing -- continue to use your application in that version that supports it. Access 12 and the next SQL Server are still far enough away that I wouldn't be basing any decisions I made on either one of them. Susan H. From harkins at iglou.com Wed Apr 2 09:27:57 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 10:27:57 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL References: <000a01c2f906$568d8370$9111758f@aine> <7217711838.20030402134702@cactus.dk> Message-ID: <01cc01c2f92d$7e764580$a4e6ffcc@SusanOne> And what if it is? Think about it guys -- although some conversions are more work than others, and certainly Access 11 is going to be a shock (and Access 12 even more so) for a few still running older versions on W 3.1, has MS ever really just left you hanging? Well, maybe it has , I probably shouldn't ask when I don't really know the answer. I think MS will consider that Access has the largest share of the market pie and I don't think they're going to just throw us to the wolves. And the alternative to not upgrade immediately is always there -- how many of you are still using 97 almost exclusively? The sky isn't falling. Susan H. > However, just yelling out that this and that and Jet is dead is not > useful at all. On the contrary, it causes a lot of concern. From harkins at iglou.com Wed Apr 2 09:30:32 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 10:30:32 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time References: Message-ID: <01cd01c2f92d$86764e60$a4e6ffcc@SusanOne> Amazing! I'm so proud of your Virginia!!!! Susan H. > Congrats!!! > > John W. Colby From harkins at iglou.com Wed Apr 2 09:33:07 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 10:33:07 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables References: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C83188039566C3@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk> Message-ID: <01ce01c2f92d$8b2caa80$a4e6ffcc@SusanOne> MessageSo what's the error Roz -- are you getting an error or just the stand by message in the status bar? Susan H. Susan All spot-on, unfortunately the query does meet all of the conditions you mention. Cascade updates are not available for linked SQL tables, however. I'll bet this will be helpful for someone else at some point! Thanks Roz -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: 01 April 2003 17:16 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Roz, not all queries are updateable. Here are some general rules: A query based on a single table is updateable if: The query contains no aggregate functions or refers to a query that contains an aggregate function. The query's Unique Values property is set to No. The query doesn't include a GROUP BY clause. A multi-table query with a one to one relationship is updateable provided all of the above conditions are true. A multi-table query with a one to many relationship is updateable on both sides as long as you don't violate referential integrity rules, and provided the above conditions are true. Try adding the foreign key value to the query -- did I read where you'd tried that? If that's the case, check referential integrity -- if it's enabled, also enable the cascade updates between the two tables. Keep in mind that the following aren't updateable, regardless: Crosstab, pass-through, and UNION (that's why I asked for the clarification about the word combine), multi-table queries based on three or more tabls in a many to one to many relationship, Totals view. Hope something there helps. Susan H. ----- Original Message ----- From: Roz Clarke To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:52 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables No blank record, all fields locked. It wouldn't surprise me if this is just a 'feature'. R. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: 01 April 2003 16:25 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Well, when you say "combine" -- I think of append or UNION. Relationships "join" records -- nothing wrong with the way you siad it -- I just thought I'd check to make sure. So here's the next question -- how do you know it's not updateable? Are you getting an error message? Is there a blank (new) record at the bottom of the query in Datasheet View? Susan H. Standard left outer join on staff ID - is there another way?! *bangs head on desk* R. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: 31-Mar-2003 17:20 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables How are you combining your tables? Susan H. What I'm finding (and I can't believe I never hit this before) is that although the SQL tables can be updated through the Access FE, and the local tables can be updated, combine them and wallop, not updateable. 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URL: From harkins at iglou.com Wed Apr 2 09:40:34 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 10:40:34 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time References: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A08ECB0F5@exchange.pgdp> <00a301c2f92a$1ef2b380$6101a8c0@amd2k512> Message-ID: <01fe01c2f92e$37a30e80$a4e6ffcc@SusanOne> Virginia, also consider a developer mentor -- someone from this list might be willing to help -- just a thought. I know I'd never get through most projects without these folks. But having one or two people willing to actually do hands on with you is different. Susan H. > ...lots of things Virginia ...but the very FIRST thing you should do is get > a mentor from your local SCORE chapter ...Service Core Of Retired Executives > ...you'll get assigned to a retired business person with experience in your > field in your state who volunteers his/her time specifically to help people > like you cut through all the red tape and avoid some of the early mistakes > that can kill you ...your local SBA office will put you in touch with them. > > ...everyone's experience is different but I can't tell you how many ways the > SCORE mentor I had helped me ...he had all the local contacts I didn't > ...knew what needed to be done first and what could wait ...all the legal > and insurance stuff ...licenses, permits, etc. ...where to focus and what to > prioritize ...what to avoid ...how to market ...as well as how not to ...so > many things that you can read about and take courses in but just never seem > to connect until its your butt on the line ...your mentor has been there and > done it already ...not only himself but with others like you ...get the > right one and he'll be like an extra arm for your first few months > ...someone you can go see or call anytime you have a question ...and the > real beauty is that if he/she doesn't know they almost certainly have ready > access to someone who does ...and they WANT to help ...and they are FREE!!!! > :) > > William Hindman > "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and > degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is > worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to > fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a > miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so > by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hollis,Virginia" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 7:02 AM > Subject: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time > > > > Well I got it for 60.00. The only thing, they said I would either have to > > get a tax number or go through a temp agency. Well everyone knows what > > happens when you go through an agency... I would end up with probably 30 > of > > that. > > > > So, how do I go about getting a tax number?? Is there anything else I > would > > need to do? > > > > Virginia > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From harkins at iglou.com Wed Apr 2 09:44:28 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 10:44:28 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Office 11 BETA testers References: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE6305091AD@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com><1049270159.3e8a978fc0113@hosea.qub.ac.uk> <01c901c2f92d$788c4b60$a4e6ffcc@SusanOne> Message-ID: <023701c2f92e$d21fdab0$a4e6ffcc@SusanOne> nda... I'm such a twit -- sorry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Harkins" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Office 11 BETA testers > He certainly is.... ;) > > I am too. Had it since 1.0 -- and node for the beta has been lifted I > think -- hasn't it guys? > > Susan H. > > > > Guilty > > > > Quoting Jeff Barrows : > > > > > I was just wondering how many people on this list are Beta Testers for > > > Office 11? > > > > > > Jeff Barrows > > > Outbak Technologies, LLC > > > Racine, WI > > > Phone: (262) 634-0653 > > > Mailto: jeff at outbaktech.com > > > www.outbaktech.com > > > ICQ # 8739060 > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From chris at denverdb.com Wed Apr 2 09:45:41 2003 From: chris at denverdb.com (Chris Mackin) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 08:45:41 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Office 11 BETA testers - How To? In-Reply-To: <01c901c2f92d$788c4b60$a4e6ffcc@SusanOne> Message-ID: How does one become a Beta Tester? Chris Mackin Denver Database Consulting, LLC www.denverdb.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 8:17 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Office 11 BETA testers He certainly is.... ;) I am too. Had it since 1.0 -- and node for the beta has been lifted I think -- hasn't it guys? Susan H. > Guilty > > Quoting Jeff Barrows : > > > I was just wondering how many people on this list are Beta Testers for > > Office 11? > > > > Jeff Barrows > > Outbak Technologies, LLC > > Racine, WI > > Phone: (262) 634-0653 > > Mailto: jeff at outbaktech.com > > www.outbaktech.com > > ICQ # 8739060 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk Wed Apr 2 09:53:59 2003 From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 16:53:59 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C83188039566D7@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk> no error, no nothing, just locked fields, not even a 'this recordset is not updateable' message in the status bar. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: 02 April 2003 16:33 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables So what's the error Roz -- are you getting an error or just the stand by message in the status bar? Susan H. Susan All spot-on, unfortunately the query does meet all of the conditions you mention. Cascade updates are not available for linked SQL tables, however. I'll bet this will be helpful for someone else at some point! Thanks Roz -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: 01 April 2003 17:16 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Roz, not all queries are updateable. Here are some general rules: A query based on a single table is updateable if: The query contains no aggregate functions or refers to a query that contains an aggregate function. The query's Unique Values property is set to No. The query doesn't include a GROUP BY clause. A multi-table query with a one to one relationship is updateable provided all of the above conditions are true. A multi-table query with a one to many relationship is updateable on both sides as long as you don't violate referential integrity rules, and provided the above conditions are true. Try adding the foreign key value to the query -- did I read where you'd tried that? If that's the case, check referential integrity -- if it's enabled, also enable the cascade updates between the two tables. Keep in mind that the following aren't updateable, regardless: Crosstab, pass-through, and UNION (that's why I asked for the clarification about the word combine), multi-table queries based on three or more tabls in a many to one to many relationship, Totals view. Hope something there helps. Susan H. ----- Original Message ----- From: Roz Clarke To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:52 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables No blank record, all fields locked. It wouldn't surprise me if this is just a 'feature'. R. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: 01 April 2003 16:25 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Well, when you say "combine" -- I think of append or UNION. Relationships "join" records -- nothing wrong with the way you siad it -- I just thought I'd check to make sure. So here's the next question -- how do you know it's not updateable? Are you getting an error message? Is there a blank (new) record at the bottom of the query in Datasheet View? Susan H. Standard left outer join on staff ID - is there another way?! *bangs head on desk* R. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: 31-Mar-2003 17:20 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables How are you combining your tables? Susan H. 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URL: From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com Wed Apr 2 10:00:14 2003 From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 10:00:14 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time Message-ID: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A08ECB0F8@exchange.pgdp> Thank you! I am a bit nervous about doing it all. I think once I get into it I will calm down and it should start fitting together. Right now the whole project seems so overwhelming. I don't know what I would do without everyone's help and support. Thank you so much! Va. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 9:31 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time Amazing! I'm so proud of your Virginia!!!! Susan H. > Congrats!!! > > John W. Colby _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jim.hale at fleetpride.com Wed Apr 2 10:13:40 2003 From: jim.hale at fleetpride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 10:13:40 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] VBE Message-ID: <869379ABF177D4118D3100508B5EF87305984F89@corp-es00> Not to get off on too much of a tangent, but how does VB script fit into the scheme of things? I've never really used it until yesterday when I found a nifty script for identifying instances of Excel that are running and became curious about its uses. Jim H > -----Original Message----- > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 6:11 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > Susan, > > I have to agree with Drew on this one. VBA means Visual Basic for > Applications. It is a subset (mostly) of VB. What you are saying is that > you have no clue how to open the VBA IDE to do development in other Office > Applications. However, once you get that IDE open and learn how to use it > (and it's supposed to be identical now between all Office Apps from 2K > on), VBA itself is the same from app to app, at least from A2K onwards. > Access 97 and backwards used it's own "kinda sorta VBA". Now it is the > real banana. > > And then, like Drew is saying, on top of VBA is SOME object model that is > native to the Office Application environment that you happen to be in - > Access, Word, Excel etc. That object model is nothing more than a bunch > of classes that create objects specific to that application, whether it is > a paragraph in Word, a cell in Excel or a subform in Access. Regardless > of that object model, strip that object model away, and you are left with > VBA which IS IDENTICAL from app to app. Modules, Classes, Functions, > Subs, Collections, arrays, if/then/else, where wend, integers, strings, > the Error object - all THAT stuff is VBA. ALL THAT stuff is identical > from App to App. > > The object model is NOT VBA, it is a layer on TOP of VBA. An integrated > set of objects that know how to be a Word document, a spreadsheet, or a > database FE. Once you reference the word object inside of Access, you > have the same capabilities that you have inside of Word directly. > Reference that Word object inside of Excel and you have the same set of > capabilities as you had in Access (or Word) - to manipulate DOCUMENTS. > > So, you have VBA which is the same exact set of keywords and structures. > VBA is available from all of the Office applications. Inside of each > application, you have an object model which is NATIVE to that application, > which is not part of VBA but is called from VBA. AFAIK, these object > models, Word, Excel, Access, PowerPoint etc are also available to call > from VB (the REAL VB programming language). Which further demonstrates > the interface line which separates the Office Application object model > from the VBA language. > > To make this crystal clear, try PROGRAMMING the object model without the > language. You can't! If you dim a variable you are using VBA. Since you > can't even set a variable to an object from the model without a DIM, you > are dead in the water without VBA (or VB). > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 4:13 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBE > > > I think Charlotte's point is, and in Fuller Fashion, I agree -- you can be > an expert at VBA in Access and not know cr*p about using VBA in Word or > Excel. > > Susan H. > > > > I still disagree with you on this Charlotte. If you are in Access, > Excel, > > or Word, and you write this: > > > > Dim strTemp As String > > strTemp="Hello" > > msgbox InStr(1,strTemp,"l") > > > > You are going to get a message box that says '3' no matter what Office > > program you are in. > > > > Now, when you are in Access, and you write: > > > > DoCmd.Quit > > > > Yes, that code only works in Access 'as is'. But that is because you > want > > to have the object model of the application you are running, already > loaded, > > and acting as a 'default'.....wouldn't you? > > > > The reason I am being so adament/argumentative on this thread, is > because > I > > feel it is FAR more important to understand the principles of > programming > in > > VB/VBA (or whatever language you choose), then it is to understand the > > details of the object model you are in. By that, I mean that once you > have > > learned what events are, how functions and subs work, how a class module > > works, etc. You have the understanding of VB/VBA, which is universal no > > matter what you are in for a development tool. I hardly ever write code > > within Excel, and I have only written code within Word once, but I > had/have > > no problem doing so, because the language and principles are the same, > it > is > > only a matter of finding what properties and methods are available for > the > > current object model, and what special objects I will be dealing with. > > > > Drew > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:07 AM > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > > > > I know that, Drew. The point is that the object model is entirely > > different, so aren't writing the same code at all, regardless of which > > VBE you use. > > > > Charlotte Foust > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] > > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:48 PM > > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > > > > Actually, you're still using VBA. The language is still the same. > > > > Drew > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] > > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 7:47 PM > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > > > > But when you program Word from within Access, you still have to use the > > Word object model. You aren't programming Access, you're programming > > Word. It isn't the same thing at all. > > > > Charlotte Foust > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] > > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 4:58 PM > > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > > > > It is the same, you just have a different 'default' object. You can > > program stuff for Word within Access, and Access within Word, right? > > > > Drew > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] > > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:45 PM > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > > > > That's like saying that programming Word and Access is the same, you > > just have a different object model to deal with! > > > > Charlotte Foust > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] > > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 2:23 PM > > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > > > > The language is almost identical, you just have a different object model > > to deal with. > > > > Drew > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] > > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 4:07 PM > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > > > > To learn what in, Drew? Access VBA programming isn't the same as VB > > anyhow. > > > > Charlotte Foust > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] > > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 1:46 PM > > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > > > > I think the VB 6.0 'look' in A2k and up feels funny in Access because it > > appears to 'seperate' the code from the objects. In VB 6.0 itself, you > > work on the VB forms in the same environment, so there is no disconnect. > > Same with Access 97. However, in A2k and up, you have this 'split', > > where the code is worked on 'seperately'. Personally I think it's a bad > > environment to learn in. > > > > Drew > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] > > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:00 PM > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > > > > I thought it was just me. Love the IDE in VB 6.0 but feels weird in > > Access! > > > > Jim DeMarco > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] > > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:57 PM > > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > > > > Me too. > > > > In fact, when I started using VB 6.0, and was presented with an > > interface slightly different from what I was used to in Access 97, it > > took a little to get used too, but I learned to like VB 6.0's VBE. > > However, when I then started messing with Access 2000, I found that I > > didn't like that same 'VBE' style in Access....I prefered the way Access > > 97 handled things. One thing that I love being able to do in Access 97, > > is to have a form open, with it's code page just beneath it. Let's you > > edit or run your code without having to flip flop windows. > > > > Drew > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com] > > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 2:35 PM > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > > > > I always called it Nice! > > > > Dan > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka > > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 2:13 PM > > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > > > > Really? I would consider the code environment in 97 to be a VBE. You > > get VB like menus, it is a VB environment. Sure, it doesn't show up > > exactly like VB, but I have always called it the VBE. > > > > Just curious, have I been wrong all this time, and if so, what do you > > call the VB environment in 97? > > > > Drew > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com] > > > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 8:13 PM > > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > > > > 2k > > > > > > John W. Colby > > > Colby Consulting > > > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan > > > Harkins > > > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 8:51 PM > > > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > Subject: [AccessD] VBE > > > > > > > > > Did the VBE first show up in 97 or 2000? > > > > > > Susan H. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > AccessD mailing list > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. 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Manage your time with eMailBoss. > Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com << File: ATT130934.txt >> From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Wed Apr 2 06:13:18 2003 From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 13:13:18 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL References: <000a01c2f906$568d8370$9111758f@aine> <7217711838.20030402134702@cactus.dk> Message-ID: <000001c2f933$62ea3640$9111758f@aine> Gustav For whats it worth. Jet is still there in Access 12 but the AFAIK the team that works on JET has been split up. Some of the other Office teams have also disappeared. Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL > Hi Martin > > This is fair and I think we all appreciate your comments. > > However, just yelling out that this and that and Jet is dead is not > useful at all. On the contrary, it causes a lot of concern. > > /gustav > > > > Sometimes due to various relationships we have with Microsoft we are > > given Access to information that is not normally made public. As a > > service to the list I sometimes make some of that available even though > > if MS find out I get sacked. The nature of my own relationship with them > > prohibits me from speaking in public about changes to certain software. > > I have in fact several legal agreements with them. > > > I assume Arthur is in the same boat. Now I do know the reason behind his > > statement and like Arthur cannot go into detail in Public. I did say > > some time ago that the ability to work with SQL Stored Procedures etc in > > a non graphical environment will at a future point become very useful. > > That relying on graphical tools to get the job done may not protect you > > from future developments with both Microsoft Access and SQL Server. > > > When possible if I think the information is useful I will post but the > > nature of the relationship with MS means we cannot be real explicit > > about what's going on or possibility going on and have to trust that > > people will read between the lines. > > > Martin > > > Martin WP Reid > > Analyst/Trainer > > Information Service > > 02890 273750 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock > > Sent: 02 April 2003 11:37 > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL > > > Hi Rusty > > > Agree. > > If there is nothing to tell us, keep this oh-so-secret mumble-jumble > > off line. > > > /gustav > > > >> Okay, is there somewhere the rest of us can go to read about what you > >> are > >> talking about? Since you can't tell us anything more, at least point > >> us in the right direction. > > >>> Sorry. > > >>>> So tell me something.net is replacing it and I will whoop with joy! > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Wed Apr 2 10:19:14 2003 From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 17:19:14 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL References: <000a01c2f906$568d8370$9111758f@aine> <7217711838.20030402134702@cactus.dk> <01cc01c2f92d$7e764580$a4e6ffcc@SusanOne> Message-ID: <002401c2f933$9a780380$9111758f@aine> I dont see anyhting in Access 11 that owuld make me buy it Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Harkins" To: "accessd" Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 4:27 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL > And what if it is? Think about it guys -- although some conversions are > more work than others, and certainly Access 11 is going to be a shock (and > Access 12 even more so) for a few still running older versions on W 3.1, has > MS ever really just left you hanging? Well, maybe it has , I probably > shouldn't ask when I don't really know the answer. > > I think MS will consider that Access has the largest share of the market pie > and I don't think they're going to just throw us to the wolves. > > And the alternative to not upgrade immediately is always there -- how many > of you are still using 97 almost exclusively? > > The sky isn't falling. > > Susan H. > > > However, just yelling out that this and that and Jet is dead is not > > useful at all. On the contrary, it causes a lot of concern. > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com Wed Apr 2 10:27:12 2003 From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 10:27:12 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time Message-ID: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A08ECB0F9@exchange.pgdp> I know I will Definitely need help setting up the table design. Virginia -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 9:41 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time Virginia, also consider a developer mentor -- someone from this list might be willing to help -- just a thought. I know I'd never get through most projects without these folks. But having one or two people willing to actually do hands on with you is different. Susan H. > ...lots of things Virginia ...but the very FIRST thing you should do is get > a mentor from your local SCORE chapter ...Service Core Of Retired Executives > ...you'll get assigned to a retired business person with experience in your > field in your state who volunteers his/her time specifically to help people > like you cut through all the red tape and avoid some of the early mistakes > that can kill you ...your local SBA office will put you in touch with them. > > ...everyone's experience is different but I can't tell you how many ways the > SCORE mentor I had helped me ...he had all the local contacts I didn't > ...knew what needed to be done first and what could wait ...all the legal > and insurance stuff ...licenses, permits, etc. ...where to focus and what to > prioritize ...what to avoid ...how to market ...as well as how not to ...so > many things that you can read about and take courses in but just never seem > to connect until its your butt on the line ...your mentor has been there and > done it already ...not only himself but with others like you ...get the > right one and he'll be like an extra arm for your first few months > ...someone you can go see or call anytime you have a question ...and the > real beauty is that if he/she doesn't know they almost certainly have ready > access to someone who does ...and they WANT to help ...and they are FREE!!!! > :) > > William Hindman > "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and > degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is > worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to > fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a > miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so > by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hollis,Virginia" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 7:02 AM > Subject: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time > > > > Well I got it for 60.00. The only thing, they said I would either have to > > get a tax number or go through a temp agency. Well everyone knows what > > happens when you go through an agency... I would end up with probably 30 > of > > that. > > > > So, how do I go about getting a tax number?? Is there anything else I > would > > need to do? > > > > Virginia > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From szeller at cce.umn.edu Wed Apr 2 10:39:34 2003 From: szeller at cce.umn.edu (Susan Zeller) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 10:39:34 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Compact/Repair doesn't work in XP when file on thenetwork Message-ID: We've got wires. -----Original Message----- From: MartyConnelly [mailto:martyconnelly at shaw.ca] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 12:58 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Compact/Repair doesn't work in XP when file on thenetwork Is this a wireless Network by any chance, you may have an incompatible MTU networking setting. The symptoms of this problem are choppy network performance, partial Web page downloads, and unexplained pauses. Susan Zeller wrote: >Recently upgraded to Windows XP and Office XP. MDB files now will not >compact and repair when they are located on the network. Error message >says the file is already in use even if the file is not open by any >other users at the time. This message happens in Access XP 2000 file >format and Access XP 2002 file format. It does not happen when the >file is on the C drive. I have not been able to recreate this in an >adp file. Making things a bit more confusing, occassionally, files do >compact and repair even on the network. Haven't found any similarities >with this. Anybody had experience with this or know anything? Can't >find anything about it in KB. > >Thanks. > >--Susan > > > >Susan B. Zeller >Office of Information Systems >College of Continuing Education >University of Minnesota >306 Wesbrook Hall >77 Pleasant Street SE >Minneapolis, MN 55455 >Phone: 612-626-4785 >Fax: 612-625-2568 > > >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Wed Apr 2 10:40:35 2003 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 18:40:35 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL In-Reply-To: <01cc01c2f92d$7e764580$a4e6ffcc@SusanOne> References: <000a01c2f906$568d8370$9111758f@aine> <01cc01c2f92d$7e764580$a4e6ffcc@SusanOne> Message-ID: <14535324373.20030402184035@cactus.dk> Hi Susan Are you sure about Access 11? Quoting Mike Gunderloy, Developer Central #24: Office 2003 First Impressions and more! "Access has no significant changes from Access 2002. It's not an exciting time to be an Access developer. I'm revising one Access book for the new version, but don't expect to do much other work with it." /gustav > And what if it is? Think about it guys -- although some conversions are > more work than others, and certainly Access 11 is going to be a shock (and > Access 12 even more so) for a few still running older versions on W 3.1, has > MS ever really just left you hanging? Well, maybe it has , I probably > shouldn't ask when I don't really know the answer. From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Wed Apr 2 10:46:40 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 08:46:40 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Compact/Repair doesn't work in XP when file onthenetwork Message-ID: Sounds painful. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Susan Zeller [mailto:szeller at cce.umn.edu] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 8:40 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Compact/Repair doesn't work in XP when file onthenetwork We've got wires. -----Original Message----- From: MartyConnelly [mailto:martyconnelly at shaw.ca] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 12:58 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Compact/Repair doesn't work in XP when file on thenetwork Is this a wireless Network by any chance, you may have an incompatible MTU networking setting. The symptoms of this problem are choppy network performance, partial Web page downloads, and unexplained pauses. Susan Zeller wrote: >Recently upgraded to Windows XP and Office XP. MDB files now will not >compact and repair when they are located on the network. Error message >says the file is already in use even if the file is not open by any >other users at the time. This message happens in Access XP 2000 file >format and Access XP 2002 file format. It does not happen when the >file is on the C drive. I have not been able to recreate this in an >adp file. Making things a bit more confusing, occassionally, files do >compact and repair even on the network. Haven't found any similarities >with this. Anybody had experience with this or know anything? Can't >find anything about it in KB. > >Thanks. > >--Susan > > > >Susan B. Zeller >Office of Information Systems >College of Continuing Education >University of Minnesota >306 Wesbrook Hall >77 Pleasant Street SE >Minneapolis, MN 55455 >Phone: 612-626-4785 >Fax: 612-625-2568 > > >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Wed Apr 2 10:49:32 2003 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 18:49:32 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL In-Reply-To: <01cc01c2f92d$7e764580$a4e6ffcc@SusanOne> References: <000a01c2f906$568d8370$9111758f@aine> <01cc01c2f92d$7e764580$a4e6ffcc@SusanOne> Message-ID: <13835861996.20030402184932@cactus.dk> Hi Susan et all > I think MS will consider that Access has the largest share of the market pie > and I don't think they're going to just throw us to the wolves. Quoting (again) Mike Gunderloy, here's one of the wolves. Note the date of today(!): Enough of that. How would you like a serious development tool for free, no strings attached? I reviewed Alpha Five version 5 positively back in Developer Central #16 (the issue is archived online at http://mcpmag.com/newsletter/article.asp?EditorialsID=136 if you want to see what I said). Briefly, Alpha Five is a $349 retail database that's attempting to go head-to-head with Microsoft Access. Of course, trying to grab market share away from Access is a tad difficult. One thing that the folks at Alpha Software want to do is get Access and VB developers to try the product so they can decide for themselves if it lives up to its ease of use reputation. So, they're willing to give away 1,000 full working copies to Developer Central readers. Of course, there are more than 1,000 of you out there, so it's not a sure thing. But to have a shot at it, send an e-mail to marketing at alphasoftware.com with the subject line "MCP Alpha Five Offer". Include your name, company name, Web site (if any, and a short note about your experience with database software. Two weeks after this issue of Developer Central comes out (which would be April 2) they'll draw 1,000 names at random and notify the winners." You'll probably receive a link to a 16MB download. If you like working with dbf files, have a look. /gustav From scott.marcus at ae.ge.com Wed Apr 2 10:51:41 2003 From: scott.marcus at ae.ge.com (Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting)) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 11:51:41 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] VBE Message-ID: <768A0EA6FF8CB34FA522978966E5D52E559D57@bwam02msx.ae.ge.com> I was thinking more along the lines of JC being Obi-Wan and Drew being Anakin. There is a whole story there if you think about it... Scott -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 8:53 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE Scott, They seem to trade places depending on the subject of the debate. And in some debates, they seem to represent two different versions of the Dark Side. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting) [mailto:scott.marcus at ae.ge.com] Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 02 05:39 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE I just wanna know who is the father(Vader) and who is the son(Luke). -----Original Message----- From: David McAfee [mailto:DMcAfee at haascnc.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:13 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE or Millie & Vanillie :P or Drew & Mimi :) or Simon & Paula ;) nah... Luke and Vader... I like that -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 4:34 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE JC, what in the world did we do, that has the list thinking we're Vader and Skywalker, or Robert E. Lee and Ulysses S. Grant? Drew _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Wed Apr 2 11:01:46 2003 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 09:01:46 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Office 11 BETA testers - How To? References: Message-ID: <3E8B177A.3030505@shaw.ca> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Lembit.Soobik at t-online.de Wed Apr 2 11:04:34 2003 From: Lembit.Soobik at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 19:04:34 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] OT / Roz Got Married References: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C83188039566C1@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk> <009301c2f927$abcbb4d0$6101a8c0@amd2k512> Message-ID: <056d01c2f939$efa400b0$0300a8c0@S856> Messageagree, sincere congratulations, and I wish you a really happy time together. Lembit Lembit Soobik ----- Original Message ----- From: William Hindman To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 4:53 PM Subject: [AccessD] OT / Roz Got Married ...ok ...change in subject to be PC ...but anytime one of our own has such a major life change, it is ON TOPIC as far as I'm concerned ...Pamela had already sent me some pics ...just thought the rest of AccessD would like to know how great you looked :))) William Hindman "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill ----- Original Message ----- From: Roz Clarke To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 8:00 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Roz Got Married ...was Updating queries with linked tables LOL OK I'll tell, but remember I'm supposed to be setting a good example!! Pics aren't up anywhere as yet, hopefully we can get that done tonight before folks lose interest :) As you can see, I'm honeymooning in the office, but the wedding itself was completely fab. Marrying Paul was the most exciting moment of my whole life, the venue was ace, we both shook all the way through the ceremony, people cried, my hair was fantastic (ask Pamela, she's had a photo), I mean, it was just wonderful. And it was OURS I guess you always think your own will be the best wedding you've been to (and it was) but so many other people said the same thing that I have to believe it was a good wedding! I can't send photos from here but if anyone wants one, mail me at zora_db at yahoo.com and I'll send one when I get home tonight. -----Original Message----- From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] Sent: 02 April 2003 03:54 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Roz Got Married ...was Updating queries with linked tables ...to heck with queries Roz ...tell us about the wedding, the honeymoon ...and where the pics are? :)))) William Hindman "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill ----- Original Message ----- From: Roz Clarke To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:52 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables No blank record, all fields locked. It wouldn't surprise me if this is just a 'feature'. R. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: 01 April 2003 16:25 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Well, when you say "combine" -- I think of append or UNION. Relationships "join" records -- nothing wrong with the way you siad it -- I just thought I'd check to make sure. So here's the next question -- how do you know it's not updateable? Are you getting an error message? Is there a blank (new) record at the bottom of the query in Datasheet View? Susan H. Standard left outer join on staff ID - is there another way?! *bangs head on desk* R. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: 31-Mar-2003 17:20 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables How are you combining your tables? Susan H. What I'm finding (and I can't believe I never hit this before) is that although the SQL tables can be updated through the Access FE, and the local tables can be updated, combine them and wallop, not updateable. 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URL: From Christian.Brock at hoffman.army.mil Wed Apr 2 11:08:16 2003 From: Christian.Brock at hoffman.army.mil (Brock, Christian T, PERSCOM) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 12:08:16 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Mailmerge not recognizing user defined function in Access 97 quer y Message-ID: We have just switched over to Office XP but still have Access 97. I am having problems with a mailmerge from Access 97 to Word XP. I have a query with a user defined function that mailmerged with no problems to Word 97. But with Word 2002 it does not even show the query if has the function in it. I have confirmed it is the function, because as soon as I remove it I can see the query. Word XP also does not recognize the format function but it will recognize the dateadd function. Is there anyway to have a user-defined function in an Access 97 query and have Word XP recognize that the query even exits. Christian Brock P.S. Word XP is not recognizing the linked tables in the access 97 database either. From mikedorism at ntelos.net Wed Apr 2 11:25:05 2003 From: mikedorism at ntelos.net (Mike and Doris Manning) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 12:25:05 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Email attachment problem Message-ID: <00bb01c2f93c$d09c3f90$db360cd8@hargrove.internal> We have been working on building our own internal PDF Document Solution using PDF995. We can get the PDF files to create perfectly exactly where we want them to. The problem we now have is with our email code we built using Redemption. The PDF original is 23KB but only 64B of that is making it to the email as an attachment. Does anybody have any thoughts on how we could slow the code down so that the entire attachment would be added? I'm trying to avoid using a message box, if at all possible. Doris Manning Database Administrator Hargrove Inc. www.hargroveinc.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Wed Apr 2 11:27:21 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 09:27:21 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Message-ID: Like working with dbf files?? Are you crazy? Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 8:50 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Hi Susan et all > I think MS will consider that Access has the largest share of the > market pie and I don't think they're going to just throw us to the > wolves. Quoting (again) Mike Gunderloy, here's one of the wolves. Note the date of today(!): Enough of that. How would you like a serious development tool for free, no strings attached? I reviewed Alpha Five version 5 positively back in Developer Central #16 (the issue is archived online at http://mcpmag.com/newsletter/article.asp?EditorialsID=136 if you want to see what I said). Briefly, Alpha Five is a $349 retail database that's attempting to go head-to-head with Microsoft Access. Of course, trying to grab market share away from Access is a tad difficult. One thing that the folks at Alpha Software want to do is get Access and VB developers to try the product so they can decide for themselves if it lives up to its ease of use reputation. So, they're willing to give away 1,000 full working copies to Developer Central readers. Of course, there are more than 1,000 of you out there, so it's not a sure thing. But to have a shot at it, send an e-mail to marketing at alphasoftware.com with the subject line "MCP Alpha Five Offer". Include your name, company name, Web site (if any, and a short note about your experience with database software. Two weeks after this issue of Developer Central comes out (which would be April 2) they'll draw 1,000 names at random and notify the winners." You'll probably receive a link to a 16MB download. If you like working with dbf files, have a look. /gustav _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Wed Apr 2 11:28:11 2003 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 19:28:11 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time In-Reply-To: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A08ECB0F8@exchange.pgdp> References: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A08ECB0F8@exchange.pgdp> Message-ID: <19538181151.20030402192811@cactus.dk> Hi Virginia > Thank you! I am a bit nervous about doing it all. I think once I get into it > I will calm down and it should start fitting together. Right now the whole > project seems so overwhelming. > I don't know what I would do without everyone's help and support. Thank you > so much! You are very welcome! Maybe we all added a tiny tiny part to your success (nice thought anyway)? In my nicely cleaned archive I located more than 100 messages addressed to you from numerous list members - the first message, by coincident, from myself in October 1998 in the days of the old list of MT Group! /gustav > Amazing! I'm so proud of your Virginia!!!! > Susan H. >> Congrats!!! >> >> John W. Colby From my.lists at verizon.net Wed Apr 2 11:30:34 2003 From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 09:30:34 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Roz Got Married ...was Updating queries with linke d tables References: <657FB70438B7D311AF320090279C180103C5E4C4@EXCHMAIL> Message-ID: <001401c2f93d$922e3be0$b615010a@FHTAPIA> Congratulations Roz! Don't start any bound/unbound wars now that you're married ;o). -Francisco http://rcm.netfirms.com On Wednesday, April 02, 2003 5:41 AM [GMT-8], Roz Clarke wrote: : My dad's very kindly put my sister's snaps on his site : : : http://www.dcs.qmul.ac.uk/~keithc/wedding/ : : Roz : : : : -----Original Message----- : From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] : Sent: 02 April 2003 14:01 : To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' : Subject: RE: [AccessD] Roz Got Married ...was Updating queries with : linke d tables : : : : LOL : : OK I'll tell, but remember I'm supposed to be setting a good example!! : : Pics aren't up anywhere as yet, hopefully we can get that done tonight : before folks lose interest :) : : As you can see, I'm honeymooning in the office, but the wedding itself : was completely fab. Marrying Paul was the most exciting moment of my : whole life, the venue was ace, we both shook all the way through the : ceremony, people cried, my hair was fantastic (ask Pamela, she's had a : photo), I mean, it was just wonderful. And it was OURS : : I guess you always think your own will be the best wedding you've been : to (and it was) but so many other people said the same thing that I : have to believe it was a good wedding! : : I can't send photos from here but if anyone wants one, mail me at : zora_db at yahoo.com and I'll send one when I : get home tonight. : : -----Original Message----- : From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] : Sent: 02 April 2003 03:54 : To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com : Subject: [AccessD] Roz Got Married ...was Updating queries with linked : tables : : : ...to heck with queries Roz ...tell us about the wedding, the : honeymoon ...and where the pics are? :)))) : : William Hindman : "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and : degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that : nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which : he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own : personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being : free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than : himself." John Stuart Mill : : : ----- Original Message ----- : From: Roz Clarke : To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' : : Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:52 AM : Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables : : No blank record, all fields locked. : : It wouldn't surprise me if this is just a 'feature'. : : R. : : -----Original Message----- : From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] : Sent: 01 April 2003 16:25 : To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com : Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables : : : Well, when you say "combine" -- I think of append or UNION. : Relationships "join" records -- nothing wrong with the way you siad it : -- I just thought I'd check to make sure. So here's the next question : -- how do you know it's not updateable? Are you getting an error : message? Is there a blank (new) record at the bottom of the query in : Datasheet View? : : Susan H. : : : : Standard left outer join on staff ID - is there another way?! : *bangs head on desk* : : R. : : -----Original Message----- : From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] : Sent: 31-Mar-2003 17:20 : To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com : Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables : : : : How are you combining your tables? : : Susan H. : : What I'm finding (and I can't believe I never hit this before) is that : although the SQL tables can be updated through the Access FE, and the : local tables can be updated, combine them and wallop, not updateable. : Even if all the key fields are included in the query. From prosoft6 at hotmail.com Wed Apr 2 11:33:59 2003 From: prosoft6 at hotmail.com (Julie Reardon-Taylor) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 12:33:59 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Message-ID: Arthur, Please don't tell me that! I just switched most of my projects over! Julie Reardon-Taylor PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC. www.pro-soft.net _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From papparuff at attbi.com Wed Apr 2 11:34:45 2003 From: papparuff at attbi.com (John Ruff) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 09:34:45 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Email attachment problem In-Reply-To: <00bb01c2f93c$d09c3f90$db360cd8@hargrove.internal> Message-ID: <00cb01c2f93e$2760a950$6401a8c0@papparuff> Can we see your email code? John V. Ruff - The Eternal Optimist :-) Always Looking For Contract Opportunities "Commit to the Lord whatever you do, and your plans will succeed." Proverbs 16:3 -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike and Doris Manning Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 9:25 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Email attachment problem We have been working on building our own internal PDF Document Solution using PDF995. We can get the PDF files to create perfectly exactly where we want them to. The problem we now have is with our email code we built using Redemption. The PDF original is 23KB but only 64B of that is making it to the email as an attachment. Does anybody have any thoughts on how we could slow the code down so that the entire attachment would be added? I'm trying to avoid using a message box, if at all possible. Doris Manning Database Administrator Hargrove Inc. www.hargroveinc.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gustav at cactus.dk Wed Apr 2 11:41:21 2003 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 19:41:21 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <18238970807.20030402194121@cactus.dk> Hi Charlotte > Like working with dbf files?? Are you crazy? Oops, Charlotte, certainly not! Sorry for the confusion. But I know some getting tears in their eyes when talking about dBase and dbf files. Personally I think that bringing all data files into one mdb was the single most brilliant idea behind Access. So, if you don't want to bring back the time of dbf files, leave Alpha Five and move on. /gustav >> I think MS will consider that Access has the largest share of the >> market pie and I don't think they're going to just throw us to the >> wolves. > Quoting (again) Mike Gunderloy, here's one of the wolves. > Note the date of today(!): > > Enough of that. How would you like a serious development tool for free, > no strings attached? I reviewed Alpha Five version 5 positively back in > Developer Central #16 (the issue is archived online at > http://mcpmag.com/newsletter/article.asp?EditorialsID=136 if you want to > see what I said). Briefly, Alpha Five is a $349 retail database that's > attempting to go head-to-head with Microsoft Access. Of course, trying > to grab market share away from Access is a tad difficult. One thing that > the folks at Alpha Software want to do is get Access and VB developers > to try the product so they can decide for themselves if it lives up to > its ease of use reputation. So, they're willing to give away 1,000 full > working copies to Developer Central readers. > Of course, there are more than 1,000 of you out there, so it's not a > sure thing. But to have a shot at it, send an e-mail to > marketing at alphasoftware.com with the subject line "MCP Alpha Five > Offer". Include your name, company name, Web site (if any, and a short > note about your experience with database software. Two weeks after this > issue of Developer Central comes out (which would be April 2) they'll > draw 1,000 names at random and notify the winners." > > You'll probably receive a link to a 16MB download. > If you like working with dbf files, have a look. > /gustav From mikedorism at ntelos.net Wed Apr 2 11:44:54 2003 From: mikedorism at ntelos.net (Mike and Doris Manning) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 12:44:54 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Email attachment problem In-Reply-To: <00cb01c2f93e$2760a950$6401a8c0@papparuff> Message-ID: <00d201c2f93f$957e8d70$db360cd8@hargrove.internal> Sure... I've been trying DoEvents but that hasn't worked. I've checked the file size after the ".Attachments.Add" line and it shows 64B when the file size is really 23KB. Public Function SendSafeEmail(SendTo As String, SendSubj As String, _ SendBody As String, SendEdit As Boolean, _ Optional SendCC As String, _ Optional FilePath As String, _ Optional strAttach As String) On Error GoTo ErrorHandler Dim oMail As Object Dim oSpace As Object Dim oFoldr As Object Dim oItem As Object Dim oSafe As Object Dim oRecip As Object Dim oDeliver As Object Dim bolOpen As Boolean Dim aryRecip() As String Dim intRecip As Integer Dim aryFileList() As String Dim intFilelist As Integer Dim strFileName As String Dim lcv As Integer Dim strSMTP As String bolOpen = IsOutlookOpen Set oMail = CreateObject("Outlook.Application") Set oSpace = oMail.GetNamespace("MAPI") Set oFoldr = oSpace.GetDefaultFolder(olFolderOutbox) Set oItem = oMail.CreateItem(olMailItem) Set oSafe = CreateObject("Redemption.SafeMailItem") oSafe.Item = oItem With oSafe 'Add the TO names If SendTo <> vbNullString Then If InStr(1, SendTo, ";", vbTextCompare) > 0 Then If Right(SendTo, 1) <> ";" Then SendTo = SendTo & ";" aryRecip = Split(SendTo, ";") intRecip = UBound(aryRecip) - 1 For lcv = 0 To intRecip .Recipients.Add aryRecip(lcv) Next lcv Erase aryRecip .Recipients.ResolveAll Else .Recipients.Add SendTo .Recipients.ResolveAll End If End If 'Add the CC names If SendCC <> vbNullString Then If InStr(1, SendCC, ";", vbTextCompare) > 0 Then If Right(SendTo, 1) <> ";" Then SendTo = SendTo & ";" aryRecip = Split(SendCC, ";") intRecip = UBound(aryRecip) - 1 For lcv = 0 To intRecip .Recipients.Add aryRecip(lcv) Next lcv .Recipients.ResolveAll Else .Recipients.Add SendCC .Recipients.ResolveAll End If End If 'Add the rest of the information .Subject = SendSubj .Body = SendBody 'Add Attachments If strAttach <> vbNullString Then If InStr(1, strAttach, ";", vbTextCompare) > 0 Then If Right(strAttach, 1) <> ";" Then strAttach = strAttach & ";" End If aryFileList = Split(strAttach, ";") intFilelist = UBound(aryFileList) - 1 For lcv = 0 To intFilelist strFileName = FilePath & aryFileList(lcv) .Attachments.Add strFileName DoEvents Next lcv End If End If DoEvents If SendEdit = True Then DoEvents .Save DoEvents .Display Exit Function Else .Send End If End With Set oDeliver = CreateObject("Redemption.MAPIUtils") oDeliver.DeliverNow oDeliver.Cleanup If bolOpen = False Then oMail.Quit End If Set oDeliver = Nothing Set oSafe = Nothing Set oItem = Nothing Set oFoldr = Nothing Set oSpace = Nothing Set oMail = Nothing Exit Function ErrorHandler: Call HandleErrors(Err, strMyName, "SendSafeEmail") End Function -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Ruff Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 12:35 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Email attachment problem Can we see your email code? John V. Ruff - The Eternal Optimist :-) Always Looking For Contract Opportunities "Commit to the Lord whatever you do, and your plans will succeed." Proverbs 16:3 -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike and Doris Manning Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 9:25 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Email attachment problem We have been working on building our own internal PDF Document Solution using PDF995. We can get the PDF files to create perfectly exactly where we want them to. The problem we now have is with our email code we built using Redemption. The PDF original is 23KB but only 64B of that is making it to the email as an attachment. Does anybody have any thoughts on how we could slow the code down so that the entire attachment would be added? I'm trying to avoid using a message box, if at all possible. Doris Manning Database Administrator Hargrove Inc. www.hargroveinc.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From scott.marcus at ae.ge.com Wed Apr 2 11:51:33 2003 From: scott.marcus at ae.ge.com (Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting)) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 12:51:33 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Email attachment problem Message-ID: <768A0EA6FF8CB34FA522978966E5D52E559D58@bwam02msx.ae.ge.com> Try this, it waits for a shelled process to finish before moving on... (watch for line wrap) Private Declare Function CreateProcessA Lib "kernel32" (ByVal lpApplicationName As String, ByVal lpCommandLine As String, ByVal lpProcessAttributes As Long, ByVal lpThreadAttributes As Long, ByVal bInheritHandles As Long, ByVal dwCreationFlags As Long, ByVal lpEnvironment As Long, ByVal lpCurrentDirectory As Long, lpStartupInfo As STARTUPINFO, lpProcessInformation As PROCESS_INFORMATION) As Long Private Declare Function WaitForSingleObject Lib "kernel32" (ByVal hHandle As Long, ByVal dwMilliseconds As Long) As Long Private Declare Function CloseHandle Lib "kernel32" (ByVal hObject As Long) As Long Private Const NORMAL_PRIORITY_CLASS = &H20& Private Type STARTUPINFO cb As Long lpReserved As String lpDesktop As String lpTitle As String dwX As Long dwY As Long dwXSize As Long dwYSize As Long dwXCountChars As Long dwYCountChars As Long dwFillAttribute As Long dwFlags As Long wShowWindow As Integer cbReserved2 As Integer lpReserved2 As Long hStdInput As Long hStdOutput As Long hStdError As Long End Type Private Type PROCESS_INFORMATION hProcess As Long hThread As Long dwProcessID As Long dwThreadID As Long End Type Private Sub ShellAndWait(sCmdLine As String) Dim lR As Long 'Return Dim uProc As PROCESS_INFORMATION Dim uStart As STARTUPINFO ' Initialize the STARTUPINFO structure: uStart.cb = Len(uStart) ' Start the shelled application: lR = CreateProcessA(sCmdLine, vbNullString, 0&, 0&, 1&, NORMAL_PRIORITY_CLASS, 0&, 0&, uStart, uProc) ' Wait for the shelled application to finish: lR = WaitForSingleObject(uProc.hProcess, INFINITE) lR = CloseHandle(uProc.hProcess) End Sub Hope this helps. If anything is missing, let me know. I cut and pasted this from a project. Scott -----Original Message----- From: Mike and Doris Manning [mailto:mikedorism at ntelos.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 12:45 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Email attachment problem Sure... I've been trying DoEvents but that hasn't worked. I've checked the file size after the ".Attachments.Add" line and it shows 64B when the file size is really 23KB. Public Function SendSafeEmail(SendTo As String, SendSubj As String, _ SendBody As String, SendEdit As Boolean, _ Optional SendCC As String, _ Optional FilePath As String, _ Optional strAttach As String) On Error GoTo ErrorHandler Dim oMail As Object Dim oSpace As Object Dim oFoldr As Object Dim oItem As Object Dim oSafe As Object Dim oRecip As Object Dim oDeliver As Object Dim bolOpen As Boolean Dim aryRecip() As String Dim intRecip As Integer Dim aryFileList() As String Dim intFilelist As Integer Dim strFileName As String Dim lcv As Integer Dim strSMTP As String bolOpen = IsOutlookOpen Set oMail = CreateObject("Outlook.Application") Set oSpace = oMail.GetNamespace("MAPI") Set oFoldr = oSpace.GetDefaultFolder(olFolderOutbox) Set oItem = oMail.CreateItem(olMailItem) Set oSafe = CreateObject("Redemption.SafeMailItem") oSafe.Item = oItem With oSafe 'Add the TO names If SendTo <> vbNullString Then If InStr(1, SendTo, ";", vbTextCompare) > 0 Then If Right(SendTo, 1) <> ";" Then SendTo = SendTo & ";" aryRecip = Split(SendTo, ";") intRecip = UBound(aryRecip) - 1 For lcv = 0 To intRecip .Recipients.Add aryRecip(lcv) Next lcv Erase aryRecip .Recipients.ResolveAll Else .Recipients.Add SendTo .Recipients.ResolveAll End If End If 'Add the CC names If SendCC <> vbNullString Then If InStr(1, SendCC, ";", vbTextCompare) > 0 Then If Right(SendTo, 1) <> ";" Then SendTo = SendTo & ";" aryRecip = Split(SendCC, ";") intRecip = UBound(aryRecip) - 1 For lcv = 0 To intRecip .Recipients.Add aryRecip(lcv) Next lcv .Recipients.ResolveAll Else .Recipients.Add SendCC .Recipients.ResolveAll End If End If 'Add the rest of the information .Subject = SendSubj .Body = SendBody 'Add Attachments If strAttach <> vbNullString Then If InStr(1, strAttach, ";", vbTextCompare) > 0 Then If Right(strAttach, 1) <> ";" Then strAttach = strAttach & ";" End If aryFileList = Split(strAttach, ";") intFilelist = UBound(aryFileList) - 1 For lcv = 0 To intFilelist strFileName = FilePath & aryFileList(lcv) .Attachments.Add strFileName DoEvents Next lcv End If End If DoEvents If SendEdit = True Then DoEvents .Save DoEvents .Display Exit Function Else .Send End If End With Set oDeliver = CreateObject("Redemption.MAPIUtils") oDeliver.DeliverNow oDeliver.Cleanup If bolOpen = False Then oMail.Quit End If Set oDeliver = Nothing Set oSafe = Nothing Set oItem = Nothing Set oFoldr = Nothing Set oSpace = Nothing Set oMail = Nothing Exit Function ErrorHandler: Call HandleErrors(Err, strMyName, "SendSafeEmail") End Function -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Ruff Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 12:35 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Email attachment problem Can we see your email code? John V. Ruff - The Eternal Optimist :-) Always Looking For Contract Opportunities "Commit to the Lord whatever you do, and your plans will succeed." Proverbs 16:3 -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike and Doris Manning Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 9:25 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Email attachment problem We have been working on building our own internal PDF Document Solution using PDF995. We can get the PDF files to create perfectly exactly where we want them to. The problem we now have is with our email code we built using Redemption. The PDF original is 23KB but only 64B of that is making it to the email as an attachment. Does anybody have any thoughts on how we could slow the code down so that the entire attachment would be added? I'm trying to avoid using a message box, if at all possible. Doris Manning Database Administrator Hargrove Inc. www.hargroveinc.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Wed Apr 2 11:52:52 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 09:52:52 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Email attachment problem Message-ID: Are you sure the file has been completely written at the point where you try the attachment? Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Mike and Doris Manning [mailto:mikedorism at ntelos.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 9:45 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Email attachment problem Sure... I've been trying DoEvents but that hasn't worked. I've checked the file size after the ".Attachments.Add" line and it shows 64B when the file size is really 23KB. Public Function SendSafeEmail(SendTo As String, SendSubj As String, _ SendBody As String, SendEdit As Boolean, _ Optional SendCC As String, _ Optional FilePath As String, _ Optional strAttach As String) On Error GoTo ErrorHandler Dim oMail As Object Dim oSpace As Object Dim oFoldr As Object Dim oItem As Object Dim oSafe As Object Dim oRecip As Object Dim oDeliver As Object Dim bolOpen As Boolean Dim aryRecip() As String Dim intRecip As Integer Dim aryFileList() As String Dim intFilelist As Integer Dim strFileName As String Dim lcv As Integer Dim strSMTP As String bolOpen = IsOutlookOpen Set oMail = CreateObject("Outlook.Application") Set oSpace = oMail.GetNamespace("MAPI") Set oFoldr = oSpace.GetDefaultFolder(olFolderOutbox) Set oItem = oMail.CreateItem(olMailItem) Set oSafe = CreateObject("Redemption.SafeMailItem") oSafe.Item = oItem With oSafe 'Add the TO names If SendTo <> vbNullString Then If InStr(1, SendTo, ";", vbTextCompare) > 0 Then If Right(SendTo, 1) <> ";" Then SendTo = SendTo & ";" aryRecip = Split(SendTo, ";") intRecip = UBound(aryRecip) - 1 For lcv = 0 To intRecip .Recipients.Add aryRecip(lcv) Next lcv Erase aryRecip .Recipients.ResolveAll Else .Recipients.Add SendTo .Recipients.ResolveAll End If End If 'Add the CC names If SendCC <> vbNullString Then If InStr(1, SendCC, ";", vbTextCompare) > 0 Then If Right(SendTo, 1) <> ";" Then SendTo = SendTo & ";" aryRecip = Split(SendCC, ";") intRecip = UBound(aryRecip) - 1 For lcv = 0 To intRecip .Recipients.Add aryRecip(lcv) Next lcv .Recipients.ResolveAll Else .Recipients.Add SendCC .Recipients.ResolveAll End If End If 'Add the rest of the information .Subject = SendSubj .Body = SendBody 'Add Attachments If strAttach <> vbNullString Then If InStr(1, strAttach, ";", vbTextCompare) > 0 Then If Right(strAttach, 1) <> ";" Then strAttach = strAttach & ";" End If aryFileList = Split(strAttach, ";") intFilelist = UBound(aryFileList) - 1 For lcv = 0 To intFilelist strFileName = FilePath & aryFileList(lcv) .Attachments.Add strFileName DoEvents Next lcv End If End If DoEvents If SendEdit = True Then DoEvents .Save DoEvents .Display Exit Function Else .Send End If End With Set oDeliver = CreateObject("Redemption.MAPIUtils") oDeliver.DeliverNow oDeliver.Cleanup If bolOpen = False Then oMail.Quit End If Set oDeliver = Nothing Set oSafe = Nothing Set oItem = Nothing Set oFoldr = Nothing Set oSpace = Nothing Set oMail = Nothing Exit Function ErrorHandler: Call HandleErrors(Err, strMyName, "SendSafeEmail") End Function -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Ruff Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 12:35 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Email attachment problem Can we see your email code? John V. Ruff - The Eternal Optimist :-) Always Looking For Contract Opportunities "Commit to the Lord whatever you do, and your plans will succeed." Proverbs 16:3 -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike and Doris Manning Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 9:25 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Email attachment problem We have been working on building our own internal PDF Document Solution using PDF995. We can get the PDF files to create perfectly exactly where we want them to. The problem we now have is with our email code we built using Redemption. The PDF original is 23KB but only 64B of that is making it to the email as an attachment. Does anybody have any thoughts on how we could slow the code down so that the entire attachment would be added? I'm trying to avoid using a message box, if at all possible. Doris Manning Database Administrator Hargrove Inc. www.hargroveinc.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jarus at amerinet-gpo.com Wed Apr 2 11:59:43 2003 From: jarus at amerinet-gpo.com (Terri Jarus) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 11:59:43 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] A97 - Application Error Message-ID: Bad news in my book! I have had the same issue and it is on workstations that are using Win2K. I get the offending error when a user is trying to print a specific report. Other reports work fine. However, this report was converted from a form. Recreating the report would take a lot of time - it is very extensive. Our network folks were never able to get this error figured out. Also, as time goes on, some of the other reports that were converted from forms have begun to do the same thing. Because we all will be eventually going to this operating system and to AXP, I have a version of the database set up in XP. I noticed today that the reports print fine from Win2K now - although I thought I had tried that a month ago and it didn't work. Thought I would have to recreate all the problem reports - which I really don't want to have to do. Not much help for you, but some background. If you get the problem solved, I would be very interested in the solution. >>> jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com 04/01/03 12:05PM >>> Hello everyone, First I would like to thank all of you who have responded to my questions over the past couple weeks concerning ADO. It has been very helpful. However now I have an A97 question. When trying to open a form in A97 the following error message appears (open in normally, design view, or trying to delete it): Anyone have any ideas of why this might be happening or any suggestions to fix it. I have already done a repair of the db, a compact, and a compile of it. TIA. -Jeff From tomadatn at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 2 11:55:39 2003 From: tomadatn at bellsouth.net (Tom Adams) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 11:55:39 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs. MDB for SQL 2000 References: Message-ID: <002101c2f941$136853f0$6400000a@dogbert2k> How many records in the largest tables? How big are all the dbf files? How many users now - max expected. How many remote users? What are their needs? Easiest and cheapest system - Access mdb with Jet back end. Use Terminal Server for remote access. Next would be Adp with Sql back end. Would still need Terminal server. Next would be VB FE with Sql back end. More expensive, less flexible. Would still need Terminal server. Lastly (get out your blank checks and bend over) would be to go web based. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Mackin" To: Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 1:12 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs. MDB for SQL 2000 > Right now it's a FoxPro for DOS system and they currently don't run any > Access applications. They only definites I'm aware of are the decisions to > use AXP and SQL 2000 (They already have the server installed on their > network with no databases on it). The number of user is pretty small right > now, the amount of data is rather large and they do have some plans to > connect to remote sites via internet in the not too distant future. > > Chris Mackin > www.denverdb.com > Denver Database Consulting, LLC > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of > Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 11:44 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs. MDB for SQL 2000 > > > Chris > > Whats the application? How many users? etc all the usual stuff. Choice > depends > on a lot of things. Does the customer need the power of SQL Server right now > or will they need it very soon? If they are already using SQL Server I would > go Access XP and ADPs. > > > Martin > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From mitsules_ms at nns.com Wed Apr 2 10:48:32 2003 From: mitsules_ms at nns.com (Mitsules, Mark) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 11:48:32 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Combo box Default Value Message-ID: Group, My inability to succinctly state this question correlates to my inexperience with lookup fields. I will name the objects in my description for my own sanity. I have a table, (Table1) which has an autonumber PK, (Table1, Field0) and another field of values, (Table1, Field1). I have a second table, (Table2) which has a lookup field (Table2, Field1) to both fields of Table1 but shows only Table1, Field1. I have a form, (Form1) that is bound to Table2. Form1 contains a combo box control that, when clicked, shows a list of all values from Table1, Field1. I would like to achieve two goals. When adding a new record; To limit this list to values that have not already been utilized, and to show the next available value by default. This seems like it would be a common situation, but I have never had the necessity before now. Thanks for your suggestions. Mark From mikedorism at ntelos.net Wed Apr 2 12:13:40 2003 From: mikedorism at ntelos.net (Mike and Doris Manning) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 13:13:40 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Email attachment problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00eb01c2f943$9a6ee880$db360cd8@hargrove.internal> Yes. I have verified that the file has been completely written. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 12:53 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Email attachment problem Are you sure the file has been completely written at the point where you try the attachment? Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Mike and Doris Manning [mailto:mikedorism at ntelos.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 9:45 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Email attachment problem Sure... I've been trying DoEvents but that hasn't worked. I've checked the file size after the ".Attachments.Add" line and it shows 64B when the file size is really 23KB. Public Function SendSafeEmail(SendTo As String, SendSubj As String, _ SendBody As String, SendEdit As Boolean, _ Optional SendCC As String, _ Optional FilePath As String, _ Optional strAttach As String) On Error GoTo ErrorHandler Dim oMail As Object Dim oSpace As Object Dim oFoldr As Object Dim oItem As Object Dim oSafe As Object Dim oRecip As Object Dim oDeliver As Object Dim bolOpen As Boolean Dim aryRecip() As String Dim intRecip As Integer Dim aryFileList() As String Dim intFilelist As Integer Dim strFileName As String Dim lcv As Integer Dim strSMTP As String bolOpen = IsOutlookOpen Set oMail = CreateObject("Outlook.Application") Set oSpace = oMail.GetNamespace("MAPI") Set oFoldr = oSpace.GetDefaultFolder(olFolderOutbox) Set oItem = oMail.CreateItem(olMailItem) Set oSafe = CreateObject("Redemption.SafeMailItem") oSafe.Item = oItem With oSafe 'Add the TO names If SendTo <> vbNullString Then If InStr(1, SendTo, ";", vbTextCompare) > 0 Then If Right(SendTo, 1) <> ";" Then SendTo = SendTo & ";" aryRecip = Split(SendTo, ";") intRecip = UBound(aryRecip) - 1 For lcv = 0 To intRecip .Recipients.Add aryRecip(lcv) Next lcv Erase aryRecip .Recipients.ResolveAll Else .Recipients.Add SendTo .Recipients.ResolveAll End If End If 'Add the CC names If SendCC <> vbNullString Then If InStr(1, SendCC, ";", vbTextCompare) > 0 Then If Right(SendTo, 1) <> ";" Then SendTo = SendTo & ";" aryRecip = Split(SendCC, ";") intRecip = UBound(aryRecip) - 1 For lcv = 0 To intRecip .Recipients.Add aryRecip(lcv) Next lcv .Recipients.ResolveAll Else .Recipients.Add SendCC .Recipients.ResolveAll End If End If 'Add the rest of the information .Subject = SendSubj .Body = SendBody 'Add Attachments If strAttach <> vbNullString Then If InStr(1, strAttach, ";", vbTextCompare) > 0 Then If Right(strAttach, 1) <> ";" Then strAttach = strAttach & ";" End If aryFileList = Split(strAttach, ";") intFilelist = UBound(aryFileList) - 1 For lcv = 0 To intFilelist strFileName = FilePath & aryFileList(lcv) .Attachments.Add strFileName DoEvents Next lcv End If End If DoEvents If SendEdit = True Then DoEvents .Save DoEvents .Display Exit Function Else .Send End If End With Set oDeliver = CreateObject("Redemption.MAPIUtils") oDeliver.DeliverNow oDeliver.Cleanup If bolOpen = False Then oMail.Quit End If Set oDeliver = Nothing Set oSafe = Nothing Set oItem = Nothing Set oFoldr = Nothing Set oSpace = Nothing Set oMail = Nothing Exit Function ErrorHandler: Call HandleErrors(Err, strMyName, "SendSafeEmail") End Function -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Ruff Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 12:35 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Email attachment problem Can we see your email code? John V. Ruff - The Eternal Optimist :-) Always Looking For Contract Opportunities "Commit to the Lord whatever you do, and your plans will succeed." Proverbs 16:3 -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike and Doris Manning Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 9:25 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Email attachment problem We have been working on building our own internal PDF Document Solution using PDF995. We can get the PDF files to create perfectly exactly where we want them to. The problem we now have is with our email code we built using Redemption. The PDF original is 23KB but only 64B of that is making it to the email as an attachment. Does anybody have any thoughts on how we could slow the code down so that the entire attachment would be added? I'm trying to avoid using a message box, if at all possible. Doris Manning Database Administrator Hargrove Inc. www.hargroveinc.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com Wed Apr 2 12:14:44 2003 From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 12:14:44 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time Message-ID: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A08ECB100@exchange.pgdp> WOW! 1998, I can't believe it has been that long. I still feel so inexperienced. Have you ever gone back and looked at something you did when you first started - you think - I can't believe I did that! I remember printing the screen for reports & had the navigation buttons showing on the form when printed. Oh, hey, it has been more than a tiny part - I would say all of it! I can honestly say I never would have been able to do anything without everyone's help & patience. Just curious - what was my first question? -----Original Message----- From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 11:28 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time Hi Virginia > Thank you! I am a bit nervous about doing it all. I think once I get into it > I will calm down and it should start fitting together. Right now the whole > project seems so overwhelming. > I don't know what I would do without everyone's help and support. Thank you > so much! You are very welcome! Maybe we all added a tiny tiny part to your success (nice thought anyway)? In my nicely cleaned archive I located more than 100 messages addressed to you from numerous list members - the first message, by coincident, from myself in October 1998 in the days of the old list of MT Group! /gustav > Amazing! I'm so proud of your Virginia!!!! > Susan H. >> Congrats!!! >> >> John W. Colby _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From MPorter at acsalaska.com Wed Apr 2 12:22:49 2003 From: MPorter at acsalaska.com (Porter, Mark) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 09:22:49 -0900 Subject: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time Message-ID: 1998 was my first Access project as well. As fate would have it, I'm back with that same client revamping/rewriting a signifigant portion of this system - mainly because someone else came behind me to 'improve' it and didn't finish the job. As I go through the spaghetti code and disasterous form design I keep thinking "who PROGRAMMED this mess!?!?" Then I realize it was me (heh). I wonder - 5 years from now will I return to this same client and think the same thing?? Mark -----Original Message----- From: Hollis,Virginia [mailto:HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 9:15 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time WOW! 1998, I can't believe it has been that long. I still feel so inexperienced. Have you ever gone back and looked at something you did when you first started - you think - I can't believe I did that! I remember printing the screen for reports & had the navigation buttons showing on the form when printed. Oh, hey, it has been more than a tiny part - I would say all of it! I can honestly say I never would have been able to do anything without everyone's help & patience. Just curious - what was my first question? -----Original Message----- From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 11:28 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time Hi Virginia > Thank you! I am a bit nervous about doing it all. I think once I get into it > I will calm down and it should start fitting together. Right now the whole > project seems so overwhelming. > I don't know what I would do without everyone's help and support. Thank you > so much! You are very welcome! Maybe we all added a tiny tiny part to your success (nice thought anyway)? In my nicely cleaned archive I located more than 100 messages addressed to you from numerous list members - the first message, by coincident, from myself in October 1998 in the days of the old list of MT Group! /gustav > Amazing! I'm so proud of your Virginia!!!! > Susan H. >> Congrats!!! >> >> John W. Colby _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This transmittal may contain confidential information intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error; any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this transmittal is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by reply or by telephone (collect at 907-564-1000) and ask to speak with the message sender. In addition, please immediately delete this message and all attachments. Thank you. From DWUTKA at marlow.com Wed Apr 2 12:25:26 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 12:25:26 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D8255D@main2.marlow.com> What? There's a version of Access after 97? . Drew -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 9:28 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL And what if it is? Think about it guys -- although some conversions are more work than others, and certainly Access 11 is going to be a shock (and Access 12 even more so) for a few still running older versions on W 3.1, has MS ever really just left you hanging? Well, maybe it has , I probably shouldn't ask when I don't really know the answer. I think MS will consider that Access has the largest share of the market pie and I don't think they're going to just throw us to the wolves. And the alternative to not upgrade immediately is always there -- how many of you are still using 97 almost exclusively? The sky isn't falling. Susan H. > However, just yelling out that this and that and Jet is dead is not > useful at all. On the contrary, it causes a lot of concern. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Wed Apr 2 12:27:37 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 12:27:37 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] VBE Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D8255F@main2.marlow.com> What do you want to know about VBScript? Drew -----Original Message----- From: Hale, Jim [mailto:jim.hale at fleetpride.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 10:14 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE Not to get off on too much of a tangent, but how does VB script fit into the scheme of things? I've never really used it until yesterday when I found a nifty script for identifying instances of Excel that are running and became curious about its uses. Jim H > -----Original Message----- > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 6:11 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > Susan, > > I have to agree with Drew on this one. VBA means Visual Basic for > Applications. It is a subset (mostly) of VB. What you are saying is that > you have no clue how to open the VBA IDE to do development in other Office > Applications. However, once you get that IDE open and learn how to use it > (and it's supposed to be identical now between all Office Apps from 2K > on), VBA itself is the same from app to app, at least from A2K onwards. > Access 97 and backwards used it's own "kinda sorta VBA". Now it is the > real banana. > > And then, like Drew is saying, on top of VBA is SOME object model that is > native to the Office Application environment that you happen to be in - > Access, Word, Excel etc. That object model is nothing more than a bunch > of classes that create objects specific to that application, whether it is > a paragraph in Word, a cell in Excel or a subform in Access. Regardless > of that object model, strip that object model away, and you are left with > VBA which IS IDENTICAL from app to app. Modules, Classes, Functions, > Subs, Collections, arrays, if/then/else, where wend, integers, strings, > the Error object - all THAT stuff is VBA. ALL THAT stuff is identical > from App to App. > > The object model is NOT VBA, it is a layer on TOP of VBA. An integrated > set of objects that know how to be a Word document, a spreadsheet, or a > database FE. Once you reference the word object inside of Access, you > have the same capabilities that you have inside of Word directly. > Reference that Word object inside of Excel and you have the same set of > capabilities as you had in Access (or Word) - to manipulate DOCUMENTS. > > So, you have VBA which is the same exact set of keywords and structures. > VBA is available from all of the Office applications. Inside of each > application, you have an object model which is NATIVE to that application, > which is not part of VBA but is called from VBA. AFAIK, these object > models, Word, Excel, Access, PowerPoint etc are also available to call > from VB (the REAL VB programming language). Which further demonstrates > the interface line which separates the Office Application object model > from the VBA language. > > To make this crystal clear, try PROGRAMMING the object model without the > language. You can't! If you dim a variable you are using VBA. Since you > can't even set a variable to an object from the model without a DIM, you > are dead in the water without VBA (or VB). > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 4:13 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBE > > > I think Charlotte's point is, and in Fuller Fashion, I agree -- you can be > an expert at VBA in Access and not know cr*p about using VBA in Word or > Excel. > > Susan H. > > > > I still disagree with you on this Charlotte. If you are in Access, > Excel, > > or Word, and you write this: > > > > Dim strTemp As String > > strTemp="Hello" > > msgbox InStr(1,strTemp,"l") > > > > You are going to get a message box that says '3' no matter what Office > > program you are in. > > > > Now, when you are in Access, and you write: > > > > DoCmd.Quit > > > > Yes, that code only works in Access 'as is'. But that is because you > want > > to have the object model of the application you are running, already > loaded, > > and acting as a 'default'.....wouldn't you? > > > > The reason I am being so adament/argumentative on this thread, is > because > I > > feel it is FAR more important to understand the principles of > programming > in > > VB/VBA (or whatever language you choose), then it is to understand the > > details of the object model you are in. By that, I mean that once you > have > > learned what events are, how functions and subs work, how a class module > > works, etc. You have the understanding of VB/VBA, which is universal no > > matter what you are in for a development tool. I hardly ever write code > > within Excel, and I have only written code within Word once, but I > had/have > > no problem doing so, because the language and principles are the same, > it > is > > only a matter of finding what properties and methods are available for > the > > current object model, and what special objects I will be dealing with. > > > > Drew > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:07 AM > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > > > > I know that, Drew. The point is that the object model is entirely > > different, so aren't writing the same code at all, regardless of which > > VBE you use. > > > > Charlotte Foust > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] > > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:48 PM > > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > > > > Actually, you're still using VBA. The language is still the same. > > > > Drew > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] > > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 7:47 PM > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > > > > But when you program Word from within Access, you still have to use the > > Word object model. You aren't programming Access, you're programming > > Word. It isn't the same thing at all. > > > > Charlotte Foust > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] > > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 4:58 PM > > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > > > > It is the same, you just have a different 'default' object. You can > > program stuff for Word within Access, and Access within Word, right? > > > > Drew > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] > > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:45 PM > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > > > > That's like saying that programming Word and Access is the same, you > > just have a different object model to deal with! > > > > Charlotte Foust > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] > > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 2:23 PM > > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > > > > The language is almost identical, you just have a different object model > > to deal with. > > > > Drew > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] > > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 4:07 PM > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > > > > To learn what in, Drew? Access VBA programming isn't the same as VB > > anyhow. > > > > Charlotte Foust > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] > > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 1:46 PM > > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > > > > I think the VB 6.0 'look' in A2k and up feels funny in Access because it > > appears to 'seperate' the code from the objects. In VB 6.0 itself, you > > work on the VB forms in the same environment, so there is no disconnect. > > Same with Access 97. However, in A2k and up, you have this 'split', > > where the code is worked on 'seperately'. Personally I think it's a bad > > environment to learn in. > > > > Drew > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] > > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:00 PM > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > > > > I thought it was just me. Love the IDE in VB 6.0 but feels weird in > > Access! > > > > Jim DeMarco > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] > > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:57 PM > > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > > > > Me too. > > > > In fact, when I started using VB 6.0, and was presented with an > > interface slightly different from what I was used to in Access 97, it > > took a little to get used too, but I learned to like VB 6.0's VBE. > > However, when I then started messing with Access 2000, I found that I > > didn't like that same 'VBE' style in Access....I prefered the way Access > > 97 handled things. One thing that I love being able to do in Access 97, > > is to have a form open, with it's code page just beneath it. Let's you > > edit or run your code without having to flip flop windows. > > > > Drew > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com] > > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 2:35 PM > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > > > > I always called it Nice! > > > > Dan > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka > > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 2:13 PM > > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > > > > Really? I would consider the code environment in 97 to be a VBE. You > > get VB like menus, it is a VB environment. Sure, it doesn't show up > > exactly like VB, but I have always called it the VBE. > > > > Just curious, have I been wrong all this time, and if so, what do you > > call the VB environment in 97? > > > > Drew > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com] > > > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 8:13 PM > > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > > > > 2k > > > > > > John W. Colby > > > Colby Consulting > > > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan > > > Harkins > > > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 8:51 PM > > > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > Subject: [AccessD] VBE > > > > > > > > > Did the VBE first show up in 97 or 2000? > > > > > > Susan H. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > AccessD mailing list > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. 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Manage your time with eMailBoss. > Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com << File: ATT130934.txt >> _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Wed Apr 2 12:28:44 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 10:28:44 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time Message-ID: Probably. Remember that Access itself has changed quite a bit over the versions. New features and functions were introduced, so it became easier to do some things that had previously required draconian workarounds. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Porter, Mark [mailto:MPorter at acsalaska.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 10:23 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time 1998 was my first Access project as well. As fate would have it, I'm back with that same client revamping/rewriting a signifigant portion of this system - mainly because someone else came behind me to 'improve' it and didn't finish the job. As I go through the spaghetti code and disasterous form design I keep thinking "who PROGRAMMED this mess!?!?" Then I realize it was me (heh). I wonder - 5 years from now will I return to this same client and think the same thing?? Mark -----Original Message----- From: Hollis,Virginia [mailto:HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 9:15 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time WOW! 1998, I can't believe it has been that long. I still feel so inexperienced. Have you ever gone back and looked at something you did when you first started - you think - I can't believe I did that! I remember printing the screen for reports & had the navigation buttons showing on the form when printed. Oh, hey, it has been more than a tiny part - I would say all of it! I can honestly say I never would have been able to do anything without everyone's help & patience. Just curious - what was my first question? -----Original Message----- From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 11:28 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time Hi Virginia > Thank you! I am a bit nervous about doing it all. I think once I get > into it > I will calm down and it should start fitting together. Right now the > whole project seems so overwhelming. > I don't know what I would do without everyone's help and support. > Thank you > so much! You are very welcome! Maybe we all added a tiny tiny part to your success (nice thought anyway)? In my nicely cleaned archive I located more than 100 messages addressed to you from numerous list members - the first message, by coincident, from myself in October 1998 in the days of the old list of MT Group! /gustav > Amazing! I'm so proud of your Virginia!!!! > Susan H. >> Congrats!!! >> >> John W. Colby _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This transmittal may contain confidential information intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error; any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this transmittal is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by reply or by telephone (collect at 907-564-1000) and ask to speak with the message sender. In addition, please immediately delete this message and all attachments. Thank you. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bob at renaissancesiding.com Wed Apr 2 12:29:06 2003 From: bob at renaissancesiding.com (Bob Gajewski) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 13:29:06 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Combo box Default Value Message-ID: <01C2F91B.D6C58FA0.bob@renaissancesiding.com> Mark To ensure that only "unused" values are available, set your Table2,Field1 to "Required=Yes, No Duplicates". I am unclear on your second question ... when adding a new record to WHICH table? If TABLE2, are you saying that you want the next EXISTING value FROM TABLE1, FIELD1? Are these numeric values? Regards, Bob Gajewski On Wednesday, April 02, 2003 11:49 AM, Mitsules, Mark [SMTP:mitsules_ms at nns.com] wrote: > Group, > > My inability to succinctly state this question correlates to my inexperience > with lookup fields. I will name the objects in my description for my own > sanity > > I have a table, (Table1) which has an autonumber PK, (Table1, Field0) and > another field of values, (Table1, Field1). I have a second table, (Table2) > which has a lookup field (Table2, Field1) to both fields of Table1 but shows > only Table1, Field1. I have a form, (Form1) that is bound to Table2. Form1 > contains a combo box control that, when clicked, shows a list of all v alues > from Table1, Field1 > > I would like to achieve two goals. When adding a new record; To limit this > list to values that have not already been utilized, and to show the next > available value by default > > This seems like it would be a common situation, but I have never had the > necessity before now. Thanks for your suggestions > > > > Mark > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > From DWUTKA at marlow.com Wed Apr 2 12:29:37 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 12:29:37 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] OT / Roz Got Married Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82560@main2.marlow.com> I second that. I think part of the 'charm' of the List, is that it's like a big family. Drew -----Original Message----- From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 8:54 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] OT / Roz Got Married ...ok ...change in subject to be PC ...but anytime one of our own has such a major life change, it is ON TOPIC as far as I'm concerned ...Pamela had already sent me some pics ...just thought the rest of AccessD would like to know how great you looked :))) William Hindman "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill ----- Original Message ----- From: Roz Clarke To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 8:00 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Roz Got Married ...was Updating queries with linked tables LOL OK I'll tell, but remember I'm supposed to be setting a good example!! Pics aren't up anywhere as yet, hopefully we can get that done tonight before folks lose interest :) As you can see, I'm honeymooning in the office, but the wedding itself was completely fab. Marrying Paul was the most exciting moment of my whole life, the venue was ace, we both shook all the way through the ceremony, people cried, my hair was fantastic (ask Pamela, she's had a photo), I mean, it was just wonderful. And it was OURS I guess you always think your own will be the best wedding you've been to (and it was) but so many other people said the same thing that I have to believe it was a good wedding! I can't send photos from here but if anyone wants one, mail me at zora_db at yahoo.com and I'll send one when I get home tonight. -----Original Message----- From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] Sent: 02 April 2003 03:54 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Roz Got Married ...was Updating queries with linked tables ...to heck with queries Roz ...tell us about the wedding, the honeymoon ...and where the pics are? :)))) William Hindman "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill ----- Original Message ----- From: Roz Clarke To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:52 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables No blank record, all fields locked. It wouldn't surprise me if this is just a 'feature'. R. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: 01 April 2003 16:25 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Well, when you say "combine" -- I think of append or UNION. Relationships "join" records -- nothing wrong with the way you siad it -- I just thought I'd check to make sure. So here's the next question -- how do you know it's not updateable? Are you getting an error message? Is there a blank (new) record at the bottom of the query in Datasheet View? Susan H. Standard left outer join on staff ID - is there another way?! *bangs head on desk* R. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: 31-Mar-2003 17:20 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables How are you combining your tables? Susan H. What I'm finding (and I can't believe I never hit this before) is that although the SQL tables can be updated through the Access FE, and the local tables can be updated, combine them and wallop, not updateable. 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URL: From DWUTKA at marlow.com Wed Apr 2 12:32:00 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 12:32:00 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] VBE Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82561@main2.marlow.com> So I'm born with the most 'innate' talent in the Universe, JC goofs on my training, and I fall to the dark side...until my son (yet to be named) comes along and nearly kills me, which flips me back to the light side? Okay.... Drew -----Original Message----- From: Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting) [mailto:scott.marcus at ae.ge.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 10:52 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE I was thinking more along the lines of JC being Obi-Wan and Drew being Anakin. There is a whole story there if you think about it... Scott -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 8:53 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE Scott, They seem to trade places depending on the subject of the debate. And in some debates, they seem to represent two different versions of the Dark Side. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting) [mailto:scott.marcus at ae.ge.com] Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 02 05:39 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE I just wanna know who is the father(Vader) and who is the son(Luke). -----Original Message----- From: David McAfee [mailto:DMcAfee at haascnc.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:13 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE or Millie & Vanillie :P or Drew & Mimi :) or Simon & Paula ;) nah... Luke and Vader... I like that -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 4:34 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE JC, what in the world did we do, that has the list thinking we're Vader and Skywalker, or Robert E. Lee and Ulysses S. Grant? Drew _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Wed Apr 2 12:42:30 2003 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 20:42:30 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time In-Reply-To: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A08ECB100@exchange.pgdp> References: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A08ECB100@exchange.pgdp> Message-ID: <4642639392.20030402204230@cactus.dk> Hi Virginia > WOW! 1998, I can't believe it has been that long. I still feel so > inexperienced. Have you ever gone back and looked at something you did when > you first started - you think - I can't believe I did that! I remember > printing the screen for reports & had the navigation buttons showing on the > form when printed. > Oh, hey, it has been more than a tiny part - I would say all of it! I can > honestly say I never would have been able to do anything without everyone's > help & patience. > Just curious - what was my first question? No, Virginia, not all. No matter what, the major part is your own time and efforts. This is the first message I have. There may have been others before the 25. of October 1998. I joined the list July 1998: Hi Virginia, > I have an attached table that uses numbers in the field to stand for > certain classes, ex: 2=Quality, 4=NonSafety, etc. I use this data in > a subform. > Is there any way to convert (or show) the numbers to their > corresponding meaning instead of the numbers? I use this form in > V2.0 and 97. If you only have a few values and these don't change, you could use the function Switch() as a quick and not so dirty solution. Look in the on-line help. In your case, if the number of the class is ClassID and your control for display the description of the ClassID in the form is ClassText, then in the form set ControlSource for ClassText to: =Switch([ClassID]=1;"Something";[ClassID]=2;"Quality";[ClassID]=4;"NonSafety") Put in pairs of values and text for all possible ClassIDs. I can add to this that I only recall to have used Switch() once. /gustav > -----Original Message----- > From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 11:28 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time > Hi Virginia >> Thank you! I am a bit nervous about doing it all. I think once I get into >> it >> I will calm down and it should start fitting together. Right now the whole >> project seems so overwhelming. >> I don't know what I would do without everyone's help and support. Thank >> you so much! > You are very welcome! Maybe we all added a tiny tiny part to your > success (nice thought anyway)? In my nicely cleaned archive I located > more than 100 messages addressed to you from numerous list members - > the first message, by coincident, from myself in October 1998 in the > days of the old list of MT Group! > /gustav >> Amazing! I'm so proud of your Virginia!!!! >> Susan H. >>> Congrats!!! >>> >>> John W. Colby From dmcafee at pacbell.net Wed Apr 2 13:06:20 2003 From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (David McAFee (Home)) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 11:06:20 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] VBE In-Reply-To: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82561@main2.marlow.com> Message-ID: OK, then I go back to the Drew & Mimi (Drew Carry Show) Drew...well you're Drew. John, in blue eye shadow and wearing a moomoo can be Mimi :) D -----Original Message----- From:Drew Wutka So I'm born with the most 'innate' talent in the Universe, JC goofs on my training, and I fall to the dark side...until my son (yet to be named) comes along and nearly kills me, which flips me back to the light side? Okay.... Drew From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Wed Apr 2 13:09:15 2003 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 11:09:15 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time References: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A08ECB0F5@exchange.pgdp> Message-ID: <3E8B355B.7050605@shaw.ca> Hollis,Virginia wrote: >Well I got it for 60.00. The only thing, they said I would either have to >get a tax number or go through a temp agency. Well everyone knows what >happens when you go through an agency... I would end up with probably 30 of >that. > >So, how do I go about getting a tax number?? Is there anything else I would >need to do? > >Virginia > > > Hmm a temp agency should take no more than 15 to 20 % for administering a contract. Years ago I could get it for 10%, so shop around, I remember getting it for as low as 5% when I had to get my contract assured under a government master standing offer.. Generally there are 3 major steps to take 1. Either incorporate your self or form a limited liabilty partnership (can be a partner of one). Takes a week. If you set your self up as a numbered coporation it is quicker. They dont have to do a name search, if you decide to name your corporation as Virginia Hollis & Associates. Once you have incorporated or whatever level of business is allowed in your state you go to step 2 2 Take your State assigned incorporation number to a bank and open a Business or Commercial Account. You will have to show a physical letter with the number. Takes a couple of days. 3. Take your Bank Account and State Corporate Account number. and get your various tax account numbers from state and federal authorities (This is fairly straight forward unless you are hiring other people then you get into withholding taxes.) Could be a week (who knows?) Things to consider: It will cost you more to fully incorporate say 500 to 700 dollars I do it cheap (have a kid brother who is a lawyer). In Alberta you can incorporate online (just fill in the forms). They will even UPS your minute books and corporate seal. Fully incorporated, you have less liability, a limited partnership may leave you open to a legal suit where your house may be up for grabs. So you need Business Insurance or E&O (Errors and Ommissions) insurance. I don't know rates in US, in Canada its about a 3 - 5 hundred dollars a year per million depending on your business. At least you don't need K&R insurance from Lloyds at 3000 a month per million ;) You will probably want to hire an accountant who will do your taxes and books, don't skimp on this, in fact he can probably advise you on the best form of incorporation for your situation and what intial steps to take. Also he will tell you whether it is better for your corporation to pay you via monthly dividends or a direct salary (which may mean withholding taxes, unemployment insurance (more forms) etc depending on your state. You can probably sign your contract saying your government assigned numbers are pending. Knowing how long some companies will take to pay an invoice, some can be longer than 90 days, you will probably be okay. If this is a problem you might want to amend you contract to a shorter time frame once you have had a lawyer look at it. Discuss this before you sign. I have done 3'd party subcontracts to IBM where it has taken more than 6 months to be paid. If this is the case you may want to establish a good line of credit with your bank. You will not get this for your business for 2 years and established a banking record and have a written business plan, so it will have to be personal line of credit. I might be inclined to say go the temp route intially if your finacial situation is such that you don't have several months salary in the bank as a nestegg. Take this with a grain of salt because I am speaking from a Canadian perspective. From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Wed Apr 2 13:10:15 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 13:10:15 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] VBE Message-ID: David, Are you saying that our Drew and John are that ugly? Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: David McAFee (Home) [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net] Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 02 13:06 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE OK, then I go back to the Drew & Mimi (Drew Carry Show) Drew...well you're Drew. John, in blue eye shadow and wearing a moomoo can be Mimi :) D From jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com Wed Apr 2 13:18:40 2003 From: jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 14:18:40 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] A97 - Application Error In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I can tell you that my app which uses a framework (library MDA) doesn't work correctly when the FE is compiled in AXP and the framework is compiled in A2K. I have to compile both in AXP before it will work. Page faults otherwise. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Terri Jarus Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 1:00 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] A97 - Application Error Bad news in my book! I have had the same issue and it is on workstations that are using Win2K. I get the offending error when a user is trying to print a specific report. Other reports work fine. However, this report was converted from a form. Recreating the report would take a lot of time - it is very extensive. Our network folks were never able to get this error figured out. Also, as time goes on, some of the other reports that were converted from forms have begun to do the same thing. Because we all will be eventually going to this operating system and to AXP, I have a version of the database set up in XP. I noticed today that the reports print fine from Win2K now - although I thought I had tried that a month ago and it didn't work. Thought I would have to recreate all the problem reports - which I really don't want to have to do. Not much help for you, but some background. If you get the problem solved, I would be very interested in the solution. >>> jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com 04/01/03 12:05PM >>> Hello everyone, First I would like to thank all of you who have responded to my questions over the past couple weeks concerning ADO. It has been very helpful. However now I have an A97 question. When trying to open a form in A97 the following error message appears (open in normally, design view, or trying to delete it): Anyone have any ideas of why this might be happening or any suggestions to fix it. I have already done a repair of the db, a compact, and a compile of it. 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Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting) Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 11:52 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE I was thinking more along the lines of JC being Obi-Wan and Drew being Anakin. There is a whole story there if you think about it... Scott -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 8:53 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE Scott, They seem to trade places depending on the subject of the debate. And in some debates, they seem to represent two different versions of the Dark Side. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting) [mailto:scott.marcus at ae.ge.com] Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 02 05:39 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE I just wanna know who is the father(Vader) and who is the son(Luke). -----Original Message----- From: David McAfee [mailto:DMcAfee at haascnc.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:13 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE or Millie & Vanillie :P or Drew & Mimi :) or Simon & Paula ;) nah... Luke and Vader... I like that -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 4:34 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE JC, what in the world did we do, that has the list thinking we're Vader and Skywalker, or Robert E. Lee and Ulysses S. Grant? 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Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2720 bytes Desc: not available URL: From scott.marcus at ae.ge.com Wed Apr 2 13:27:43 2003 From: scott.marcus at ae.ge.com (Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting)) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 14:27:43 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] VBE Message-ID: <768A0EA6FF8CB34FA522978966E5D52E559D59@bwam02msx.ae.ge.com> Exactly! :-) -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 1:32 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE So I'm born with the most 'innate' talent in the Universe, JC goofs on my training, and I fall to the dark side...until my son (yet to be named) comes along and nearly kills me, which flips me back to the light side? Okay.... Drew -----Original Message----- From: Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting) [mailto:scott.marcus at ae.ge.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 10:52 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE I was thinking more along the lines of JC being Obi-Wan and Drew being Anakin. There is a whole story there if you think about it... Scott -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 8:53 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE Scott, They seem to trade places depending on the subject of the debate. And in some debates, they seem to represent two different versions of the Dark Side. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting) [mailto:scott.marcus at ae.ge.com] Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 02 05:39 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE I just wanna know who is the father(Vader) and who is the son(Luke). -----Original Message----- From: David McAfee [mailto:DMcAfee at haascnc.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:13 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE or Millie & Vanillie :P or Drew & Mimi :) or Simon & Paula ;) nah... Luke and Vader... I like that -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 4:34 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE JC, what in the world did we do, that has the list thinking we're Vader and Skywalker, or Robert E. Lee and Ulysses S. Grant? Drew _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Wed Apr 2 13:36:30 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 13:36:30 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] VBE Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82563@main2.marlow.com> Ironically, I sorta look like Drew Carey too! Drew -----Original Message----- From: David McAFee (Home) [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 1:06 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE OK, then I go back to the Drew & Mimi (Drew Carry Show) Drew...well you're Drew. John, in blue eye shadow and wearing a moomoo can be Mimi :) D -----Original Message----- From:Drew Wutka So I'm born with the most 'innate' talent in the Universe, JC goofs on my training, and I fall to the dark side...until my son (yet to be named) comes along and nearly kills me, which flips me back to the light side? Okay.... Drew _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Wed Apr 2 13:42:14 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 13:42:14 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] VBE Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82564@main2.marlow.com> Ya, and Obi-Wan wasn't very bright (he was the first Jedi to get caught by the bad guys......) Drew May the force be with you. > -----Original Message----- > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 1:23 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > ROTFLMAO. > > Have you seen Anakin in the last star wars movies. A bit of a brat. Very > apropos! > > ;-) > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Marcus, Scott > (GEAE, RHI Consulting) > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 11:52 AM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > I was thinking more along the lines of JC being Obi-Wan and Drew being > Anakin. > > There is a whole story there if you think about it... > > Scott > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 8:53 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > Scott, > > They seem to trade places depending on the subject of the debate. > And in some debates, they seem to represent two different > versions of the Dark Side. > > Charles Wortz > Software Development Division > Texas Education Agency > 1701 N. Congress Ave > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > 512-463-9493 > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting) > [mailto:scott.marcus at ae.ge.com] > Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 02 05:39 > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > I just wanna know who is the father(Vader) and who is the son(Luke). > > -----Original Message----- > From: David McAfee [mailto:DMcAfee at haascnc.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:13 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > or Millie & Vanillie :P > > or Drew & Mimi :) > > or Simon & Paula ;) > > nah... Luke and Vader... I like that > > -----Original Message----- > From: Drew Wutka > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 4:34 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > JC, what in the world did we do, that has the list thinking we're Vader > and Skywalker, or Robert E. Lee and Ulysses S. Grant? > > > > Drew > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. > Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com << File: ATT03693.txt >> From Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Wed Apr 2 13:42:05 2003 From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK (Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 20:42:05 +0100 (BST) Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL In-Reply-To: <13835861996.20030402184932@cactus.dk> References: <000a01c2f906$568d8370$9111758f@aine> <01cc01c2f92d$7e764580$a4e6ffcc@SusanOne> <13835861996.20030402184932@cactus.dk> Message-ID: <1049312525.3e8b3d0dcbd95@hosea.qub.ac.uk> hy send me a copy of it as well. Not impressed. Yet Martin Quoting Gustav Brock : > Hi Susan et all > > > I think MS will consider that Access has the largest share of the > market pie > > and I don't think they're going to just throw us to the wolves. > > Quoting (again) Mike Gunderloy, here's one of the wolves. > Note the date of today(!): > > > > Enough of that. How would you like a serious development tool for > free, > no strings attached? I reviewed Alpha Five version 5 positively back > in > Developer Central #16 (the issue is archived online at > http://mcpmag.com/newsletter/article.asp?EditorialsID=136 if you want > to > see what I said). Briefly, Alpha Five is a $349 retail database that's > attempting to go head-to-head with Microsoft Access. Of course, trying > to grab market share away from Access is a tad difficult. One thing > that > the folks at Alpha Software want to do is get Access and VB developers > to try the product so they can decide for themselves if it lives up to > its ease of use reputation. So, they're willing to give away 1,000 > full > working copies to Developer Central readers. > > Of course, there are more than 1,000 of you out there, so it's not a > sure thing. But to have a shot at it, send an e-mail to > marketing at alphasoftware.com with the subject line "MCP Alpha Five > Offer". Include your name, company name, Web site (if any, and a short > note about your experience with database software. Two weeks after > this > issue of Developer Central comes out (which would be April 2) they'll > draw 1,000 names at random and notify the winners." > > > > You'll probably receive a link to a 16MB download. > If you like working with dbf files, have a look. > > /gustav > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Wed Apr 2 13:50:57 2003 From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK (Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 20:50:57 +0100 (BST) Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL In-Reply-To: <000001c2f933$62ea3640$9111758f@aine> References: <000a01c2f906$568d8370$9111758f@aine> <7217711838.20030402134702@cactus.dk> <000001c2f933$62ea3640$9111758f@aine> Message-ID: <1049313057.3e8b3f2148a86@hosea.qub.ac.uk> All I am saying on this ADPS will remain a viable MS technology. How they interact with the server will changes. There are certain things you can do now that you will be unable to do with future releases of SQL Server. This is an SQL Server problem not an Access one. Products are developed by different teams and as I am finding out internal communication between teams at MS is crap. I was told and I quote "Bill Gates is very interested in Access as a power user tool" when I expressed my concerns over Access 11 offering little in the way of improvements for developers. The real thing that concerns me is the use of the term "Power USer" If MS dont take it serious as a developers tool then we will not see big changes. AS Susan says MS Office and ACcess is a major cash cow for Microsoft. No mission of it going. Lot of attention to ALpha 5 and they did give me a copy and as I said I was not impressed. One final thing. Some of us are privy to internal discussions at MS at times. Until they appear on paper thats all they are discussions. Martin From mitsules_ms at nns.com Wed Apr 2 13:42:19 2003 From: mitsules_ms at nns.com (Mitsules, Mark) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 14:42:19 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Combo box Default Value Message-ID: Bob, Thanks for your reply. To answer the first question, Table1 is static, I'm adding a record to Table2. To answer the second question, yes. But, to answer the third question I'm running into another problem on providing a default value. You see, when these "codes" were first conceived it was assumed (yikes!!!) that there would never be more than 1000 concurrent projects. So, they began with a simple 3 digit numerical suffix that followed a letter code (4 characters in all). When I took over, I pointed out that the problem with their assumption was that there would be no historical data once the numbers "rolled over". I suggested the following... I could not change the first character of the four character code. It stands as one of 6 alpha characters. However, to work around the 1000 possible combinations limit posed by numerals, I created a table with every possible 3 digit code using both numbers and alphas (32*32*32 = 46,656). Now, since they've started on the number path they are up to 679, and I would like the next record to default to 680. But, since the table is obviously ASCII sorted, envisioning code that will provide a number default until they hit 999, then resuming the ASCII sort order is proving a little difficult. Now, to answer the question that will inevitably arise from someone I'm sure...At our current rate, 46,656 possible combinations will last in excess of 50 years. And, everyone who is in a position to make decisions is willing to live with that caveat. Mark -----Original Message----- From: Bob Gajewski [mailto:bob at renaissancesiding.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 1:29 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Combo box Default Value Mark To ensure that only "unused" values are available, set your Table2,Field1 to "Required=Yes, No Duplicates". I am unclear on your second question ... when adding a new record to WHICH table? If TABLE2, are you saying that you want the next EXISTING value FROM TABLE1, FIELD1? Are these numeric values? Regards, Bob Gajewski On Wednesday, April 02, 2003 11:49 AM, Mitsules, Mark [SMTP:mitsules_ms at nns.com] wrote: > Group, > > My inability to succinctly state this question correlates to my inexperience > with lookup fields. I will name the objects in my description for my > own sanity > > I have a table, (Table1) which has an autonumber PK, (Table1, Field0) > and another field of values, (Table1, Field1). I have a second table, (Table2) > which has a lookup field (Table2, Field1) to both fields of Table1 but shows > only Table1, Field1. I have a form, (Form1) that is bound to Table2. Form1 > contains a combo box control that, when clicked, shows a list of all v alues > from Table1, Field1 > > I would like to achieve two goals. When adding a new record; To limit this > list to values that have not already been utilized, and to show the > next available value by default > > This seems like it would be a common situation, but I have never had > the necessity before now. Thanks for your suggestions > > > > Mark > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mitsules_ms at nns.com Wed Apr 2 13:46:23 2003 From: mitsules_ms at nns.com (Mitsules, Mark) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 14:46:23 -0500 Subject: FW: [AccessD] Combo box Default Value Message-ID: It must be the medication...(36*36*36 = 46,656). Mark -----Original Message----- From: Mitsules, Mark Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 2:42 PM To: 'AccessD' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Combo box Default Value Bob, Thanks for your reply. To answer the first question, Table1 is static, I'm adding a record to Table2. To answer the second question, yes. But, to answer the third question I'm running into another problem on providing a default value. You see, when these "codes" were first conceived it was assumed (yikes!!!) that there would never be more than 1000 concurrent projects. So, they began with a simple 3 digit numerical suffix that followed a letter code (4 characters in all). When I took over, I pointed out that the problem with their assumption was that there would be no historical data once the numbers "rolled over". I suggested the following... I could not change the first character of the four character code. It stands as one of 6 alpha characters. However, to work around the 1000 possible combinations limit posed by numerals, I created a table with every possible 3 digit code using both numbers and alphas (32*32*32 = 46,656). Now, since they've started on the number path they are up to 679, and I would like the next record to default to 680. But, since the table is obviously ASCII sorted, envisioning code that will provide a number default until they hit 999, then resuming the ASCII sort order is proving a little difficult. Now, to answer the question that will inevitably arise from someone I'm sure...At our current rate, 46,656 possible combinations will last in excess of 50 years. And, everyone who is in a position to make decisions is willing to live with that caveat. Mark -----Original Message----- From: Bob Gajewski [mailto:bob at renaissancesiding.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 1:29 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Combo box Default Value Mark To ensure that only "unused" values are available, set your Table2,Field1 to "Required=Yes, No Duplicates". I am unclear on your second question ... when adding a new record to WHICH table? If TABLE2, are you saying that you want the next EXISTING value FROM TABLE1, FIELD1? Are these numeric values? Regards, Bob Gajewski On Wednesday, April 02, 2003 11:49 AM, Mitsules, Mark [SMTP:mitsules_ms at nns.com] wrote: > Group, > > My inability to succinctly state this question correlates to my inexperience > with lookup fields. I will name the objects in my description for my > own sanity > > I have a table, (Table1) which has an autonumber PK, (Table1, Field0) > and another field of values, (Table1, Field1). I have a second table, (Table2) > which has a lookup field (Table2, Field1) to both fields of Table1 but shows > only Table1, Field1. I have a form, (Form1) that is bound to Table2. Form1 > contains a combo box control that, when clicked, shows a list of all v alues > from Table1, Field1 > > I would like to achieve two goals. When adding a new record; To limit this > list to values that have not already been utilized, and to show the > next available value by default > > This seems like it would be a common situation, but I have never had > the necessity before now. Thanks for your suggestions > > > > Mark > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mmmtbig at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 2 14:28:25 2003 From: mmmtbig at bellsouth.net (Myke Myers) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 15:28:25 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Power Options, Energy Savings, and Heat Control Message-ID: <00ab01c2f956$699bd840$6501a8c0@tbig3> I have 3 PCs in my home office. I don't turn them off except when I'm on vacation. As the weather warms, I remember how hot my office stayed last summer (Atlanta area). I'm considering exploring the power options in WinXP to turn my PCs off between midnight and 7am. Does anyone have experience using the power-saving settings? Do the Windows power schemes work well? What versions of Windows? How smart is the power off -- will it wake up to start a backup or get virus updates? What are the downsides? TIA, Myke The Better Information Group From artful at rogers.com Wed Apr 2 14:39:16 2003 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 15:39:16 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001201c2f957$edca14f0$8e01a8c0@Rock> Successful apps are doomed to be rewritten. Failed apps simply die. -- Fuller's Third Law Congratulations on your success, and who among us has not had that same thought? "I --- the godlike being that I am -- wrote this shit!? Fuller's Fourth Law: Experts fail 100 times as often as the sum of failures by novices, intermediates and "power users". vbg -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Porter, Mark Sent: April 2, 2003 1:23 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time 1998 was my first Access project as well. As fate would have it, I'm back with that same client revamping/rewriting a signifigant portion of this system - mainly because someone else came behind me to 'improve' it and didn't finish the job. As I go through the spaghetti code and disasterous form design I keep thinking "who PROGRAMMED this mess!?!?" Then I realize it was me (heh). I wonder - 5 years from now will I return to this same client and think the same thing?? Mark From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Wed Apr 2 14:42:06 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 12:42:06 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] A97 - Application Error Message-ID: The same thing happens if you try to set a reference to an MDE compiled in an earlier version. It page faults, period. Charlotte Foust > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. > Colby > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 11:19 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] A97 - Application Error > > I can tell you that my app which uses a framework (library MDA) > doesn't work correctly when the FE is compiled in AXP and the > framework is compiled in A2K. I have to compile both in AXP before it > will work. Page faults otherwise. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Terri Jarus > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 1:00 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] A97 - Application Error > > > Bad news in my book! I have had the same issue and it is on > workstations that are using Win2K. I get the offending error when a > user is trying to print a specific report. Other reports work fine. > However, this report was converted from a form. Recreating the report > would take a lot of time - it is very extensive. > > Our network folks were never able to get this error figured out. > Also, > as time goes on, some of the other reports that were converted from > forms have begun to do the same thing. > > Because we all will be eventually going to this operating system and > to > AXP, I have a version of the database set up in XP. I noticed today > that the reports print fine from Win2K now - although I thought I had > tried that a month ago and it didn't work. Thought I would have to > recreate all the problem reports - which I really don't want to have > to > do. > > Not much help for you, but some background. If you get the problem > solved, I would be very interested in the solution. > > >>> jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com 04/01/03 12:05PM >>> > Hello everyone, > > First I would like to thank all of you who have responded to my > questions > over the past couple weeks concerning ADO. It has been very helpful. > However now I have an A97 question. > > When trying to open a form in A97 the following error message appears > (open in normally, design view, or trying to delete it): > > > > Anyone have any ideas of why this might be happening or any > suggestions > to > fix it. I have already done a repair of the db, a compact, and a > compile > of it. > > TIA. > > -Jeff > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. > Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com << File: ATT09595.txt >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Wed Apr 2 14:44:33 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 12:44:33 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time Message-ID: You don't have to be incorporated for most contracts. All they want is an actualy entity, rather than a private individual, and a registered fictitious name (dba) serves that purpose. With a dba, all you need is your personal tax id number. You don't need a different taxpayer's ID unless you have employees. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: MartyConnelly [mailto:martyconnelly at shaw.ca] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 11:09 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time Hollis,Virginia wrote: >Well I got it for 60.00. The only thing, they said I would either have >to get a tax number or go through a temp agency. Well everyone knows >what happens when you go through an agency... I would end up with >probably 30 of that. > >So, how do I go about getting a tax number?? Is there anything else I >would need to do? > >Virginia > > > Hmm a temp agency should take no more than 15 to 20 % for administering a contract. Years ago I could get it for 10%, so shop around, I remember getting it for as low as 5% when I had to get my contract assured under a government master standing offer.. Generally there are 3 major steps to take 1. Either incorporate your self or form a limited liabilty partnership (can be a partner of one). Takes a week. If you set your self up as a numbered coporation it is quicker. They dont have to do a name search, if you decide to name your corporation as Virginia Hollis & Associates. Once you have incorporated or whatever level of business is allowed in your state you go to step 2 2 Take your State assigned incorporation number to a bank and open a Business or Commercial Account. You will have to show a physical letter with the number. Takes a couple of days. 3. Take your Bank Account and State Corporate Account number. and get your various tax account numbers from state and federal authorities (This is fairly straight forward unless you are hiring other people then you get into withholding taxes.) Could be a week (who knows?) Things to consider: It will cost you more to fully incorporate say 500 to 700 dollars I do it cheap (have a kid brother who is a lawyer). In Alberta you can incorporate online (just fill in the forms). They will even UPS your minute books and corporate seal. Fully incorporated, you have less liability, a limited partnership may leave you open to a legal suit where your house may be up for grabs. So you need Business Insurance or E&O (Errors and Ommissions) insurance. I don't know rates in US, in Canada its about a 3 - 5 hundred dollars a year per million depending on your business. At least you don't need K&R insurance from Lloyds at 3000 a month per million ;) You will probably want to hire an accountant who will do your taxes and books, don't skimp on this, in fact he can probably advise you on the best form of incorporation for your situation and what intial steps to take. Also he will tell you whether it is better for your corporation to pay you via monthly dividends or a direct salary (which may mean withholding taxes, unemployment insurance (more forms) etc depending on your state. You can probably sign your contract saying your government assigned numbers are pending. Knowing how long some companies will take to pay an invoice, some can be longer than 90 days, you will probably be okay. If this is a problem you might want to amend you contract to a shorter time frame once you have had a lawyer look at it. Discuss this before you sign. I have done 3'd party subcontracts to IBM where it has taken more than 6 months to be paid. If this is the case you may want to establish a good line of credit with your bank. You will not get this for your business for 2 years and established a banking record and have a written business plan, so it will have to be personal line of credit. I might be inclined to say go the temp route intially if your finacial situation is such that you don't have several months salary in the bank as a nestegg. Take this with a grain of salt because I am speaking from a Canadian perspective. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mitsules_ms at nns.com Wed Apr 2 14:43:24 2003 From: mitsules_ms at nns.com (Mitsules, Mark) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 15:43:24 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Data Access Pages - Lookup Fields Message-ID: Can a DAP be created that is based on a table, which has a field based on a lookup? When using the wizard, the lookup fields on the resulting DAP only show the format for the field (such as ">"), not the data. Mark From dmcafee at pacbell.net Wed Apr 2 15:13:02 2003 From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (David McAFee (Home)) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 13:13:02 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] VBE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Drew, I have never met. lets just say that although I really hate the look of blue (or white) eye shadow, lets just say it couldn't make JC look any worse :) David -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Wortz, Charles Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 11:10 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE David, Are you saying that our Drew and John are that ugly? Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: David McAFee (Home) [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net] Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 02 13:06 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE OK, then I go back to the Drew & Mimi (Drew Carry Show) Drew...well you're Drew. John, in blue eye shadow and wearing a moomoo can be Mimi :) D _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From greggs at msn.com Wed Apr 2 15:22:12 2003 From: greggs at msn.com (gregg steinbrenner) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 15:22:12 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Email attachment problem In-Reply-To: <00cb01c2f93e$2760a950$6401a8c0@papparuff> Message-ID: MessageJohn, Would you contact me off line? Thanks, Gregg Steinbrenner High Impact Solutions Greggs at msn.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John Ruff Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 11:35 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Email attachment problem Can we see your email code? John V. Ruff ? The Eternal Optimist J Always Looking For Contract Opportunities ?Commit to the Lord whatever you do, and your plans will succeed.? Proverbs 16:3 -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike and Doris Manning Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 9:25 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Email attachment problem We have been working on building our own internal PDF Document Solution using PDF995. We can get the PDF files to create perfectly exactly where we want them to. The problem we now have is with our email code we built using Redemption. The PDF original is 23KB but only 64B of that is making it to the email as an attachment. Does anybody have any thoughts on how we could slow the code down so that the entire attachment would be added? I'm trying to avoid using a message box, if at all possible. Doris Manning Database Administrator Hargrove Inc. www.hargroveinc.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Wed Apr 2 15:48:51 2003 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 16:48:51 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] A97 - Application Error Message-ID: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF40389750F@xlivmbx12.aig.com> You will also get a page fault (at least it's a Dr. Watson) if you change any code in an MDE and then try to use an Access app. that references the MDE. Any time you change a referenced code library you need to recompile the app. that's using the reference as well. Lambert > -----Original Message----- > From: Charlotte Foust [SMTP:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 3:42 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] A97 - Application Error > > The same thing happens if you try to set a reference to an MDE compiled in > an earlier version. It page faults, period. > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [ > ] On Behalf Of John W. Colby > > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 11:19 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] A97 - Application Error > > I can tell you that my app which uses a framework (library MDA) doesn't > work correctly when the FE is compiled in AXP and the framework is > compiled in A2K. I have to compile both in AXP before it will work. Page > faults otherwise. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [ Behalf Of Terri Jarus > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 1:00 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] A97 - Application Error > > > Bad news in my book! I have had the same issue and it is on > workstations that are using Win2K. I get the offending error when a > user is trying to print a specific report. Other reports work fine. > However, this report was converted from a form. Recreating the report > would take a lot of time - it is very extensive. > > Our network folks were never able to get this error figured out. Also, > as time goes on, some of the other reports that were converted from > forms have begun to do the same thing. > > Because we all will be eventually going to this operating system and to > AXP, I have a version of the database set up in XP. I noticed today > that the reports print fine from Win2K now - although I thought I had > tried that a month ago and it didn't work. Thought I would have to > recreate all the problem reports - which I really don't want to have to > do. > > Not much help for you, but some background. If you get the problem > solved, I would be very interested in the solution. > > >>> jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com 04/01/03 12:05PM >>> > Hello everyone, > > First I would like to thank all of you who have responded to my > questions > over the past couple weeks concerning ADO. It has been very helpful. > However now I have an A97 question. > > When trying to open a form in A97 the following error message appears > (open in normally, design view, or trying to delete it): > > > > Anyone have any ideas of why this might be happening or any suggestions > to > fix it. I have already done a repair of the db, a compact, and a > compile > of it. > > TIA. > > -Jeff > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > Website: > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. > Try it free! << File: ATT09595.txt >> > << File: ATT7097133.txt >> From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Wed Apr 2 15:58:52 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 13:58:52 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] A97 - Application Error Message-ID: We've also found that XP doesn't like references to an MDE that may differ from the original location. The reference is there, doesn't show up as MISSING, and the file location is valid, but things don't work as they should. We finally resorted to creating a folder in a fixed location on the target machine and stuffing the mde in that so the reference would remain valid. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 1:49 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] A97 - Application Error You will also get a page fault (at least it's a Dr. Watson) if you change any code in an MDE and then try to use an Access app. that references the MDE. Any time you change a referenced code library you need to recompile the app. that's using the reference as well. Lambert > -----Original Message----- > From: Charlotte Foust [SMTP:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 3:42 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] A97 - Application Error > > The same thing happens if you try to set a reference to an MDE > compiled in an earlier version. It page faults, period. > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [ > ] On Behalf Of John W. > Colby > > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 11:19 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] A97 - Application Error > > I can tell you that my app which uses a framework (library MDA) > doesn't work correctly when the FE is compiled in AXP and the > framework is compiled in A2K. I have to compile both in AXP before it > will work. Page faults otherwise. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [ Behalf Of Terri Jarus > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 1:00 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] A97 - Application Error > > > Bad news in my book! I have had the same issue and it is on > workstations that are using Win2K. I get the offending error when a > user is trying to print a specific report. Other reports work fine. > However, this report was converted from a form. Recreating the report > would take a lot of time - it is very extensive. > > Our network folks were never able to get this error figured out. > Also, > as time goes on, some of the other reports that were converted from > forms have begun to do the same thing. > > Because we all will be eventually going to this operating system and > to > AXP, I have a version of the database set up in XP. I noticed today > that the reports print fine from Win2K now - although I thought I had > tried that a month ago and it didn't work. Thought I would have to > recreate all the problem reports - which I really don't want to have to > do. > > Not much help for you, but some background. If you get the problem > solved, I would be very interested in the solution. > > >>> jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com 04/01/03 12:05PM >>> > Hello everyone, > > First I would like to thank all of you who have responded to my > questions > over the past couple weeks concerning ADO. It has been very helpful. > However now I have an A97 question. > > When trying to open a form in A97 the following error message appears > (open in normally, design view, or trying to delete it): > > > > Anyone have any ideas of why this might be happening or any > suggestions > to > fix it. I have already done a repair of the db, a compact, and a > compile > of it. > > TIA. > > -Jeff > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > Website: > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. > Try it free! << File: ATT09595.txt >> > << File: ATT7097133.txt >> _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Wed Apr 2 16:14:42 2003 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 14:14:42 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time References: Message-ID: <3E8B60D2.6050908@shaw.ca> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From artful at rogers.com Wed Apr 2 16:15:33 2003 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 17:15:33 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL In-Reply-To: <1049313057.3e8b3f2148a86@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <003601c2f965$60da0830$8e01a8c0@Rock> F**K the NDA. You listers want an ostensible insider's take? Not that I'm close to the bone, just that I have a beta and few high friends in low places. Martin: >> Products are developed by different teams and as I am finding out internal communication between teams at MS is crap. This was mandated by the Fed. Chinese walls and all. No communication among teams = Equal Opportunity for 3Ps. Assuming that Bill and Steve ultimately agree to play by the rules imposed by the Fed, however egregious they might find it, this is the result. Team A rewrites product A2003 with no knowledge of what Team B is adding to product B2003. Even as an alleged leftist (by Hindman et. al., though I don't see it that way, I prefer the term post-capitalist, or one-worlder), this one confuses me. I want all software to work together, across platforms and languages etc. But is the price the virtual monopoly of one particular company that already owns say 89.9% of the software market? On the other hand, does it make any sense that the Access team is excluded from the SQL team's discussions? And even if that perverse interpretation were accurate, would you or I actually kneel down and obey this asinine conclusion? Outlook devs may never know what the Access devs are thinking, and vice-versa. Call me a criminal: I would say FU2 and hold secret meets in Starbucks, passing infa-red notes that explain secret shortcuts, undocumented and officially at least, not guaranteed to work. Beta code, so to speak. I am so disappointed by my tea-leaves reading that I am preparing to bail from Access. I didn't want to do this. For several years I have championed Access over alternative IDEs, and as any sort-list by my name will illustrate. I would do most anything to help persuade MS to reconsider this plan, but it's a fait-accompli I'm afraid. I was one of pioneers of ADP. MS hooked me instantly. Access suddenly became 100 times better than Enterprise Manager. I devoted thousands of hours to ADP, I fought in the trenches and discovered this problem and that problem and found work-arounds and published a few of them and offered a few more here for free, and now MS cuts the legs from under not only me but everyone else who has invested hours in ADP. You have no idea how sick this makes me feel. I have told some close friends who owned the companies I have worked for recently, to bet everything on the ADP/SQL technology. And now I have to tell them that maybe I can reverse-engineer it back to ODBC and somewhow save the day, for less dollars than it will actually cost because I'm so embarrassed that I recommended we trust Microsoft. I don't know what to do now. I think that every moment that I invest from here on in is a moment I should have spent learning more about .Net or Java. I am staying on this list because this is my home, and you are my family. But I am sick to my stomach. Here's the Access 11 I would have designed, imagining for a moment that I'm capable of holding such a job :-) 1. Lose DAPs. Replace this crap with wizards inherited from FrontPage, say, so they can generate pages that require nothing more than a browser, and on the server end nothing more than a successful connection object. 2. Supply a wizard that can inhale an Access app and from it create a corresponding .net webForms app. When it sees a form + n subForms object, it automatically creates either a dotnet subform or a linked page, you choose, globally and individually. 3. Somehow find a way to support the new stuff coming in the next SQL. Write all the IDE stuff as .Net forms etc. so they can be melded into any product. Another beta user on this list and I exchanged some private mail on A11, and found we were both on the same page. There isn't a book here, at the most a couple of chapters. In the O11 rewrite, Access got the backhand compliment. Three new features, wowee! So why the slap in the face? Eat the black tuplip because you own the other one, thereby trebling its value. I.e. force all Access professionals into .Net, our collection of paid courses, certs &c., all of which gen vastly mas dinero than the essentially freebie Access. "Josephine in Hoboken buys one copy of Office Developer... For how much? And can deploy anything she writes anywhere? Say again? Are you some kind of socialist? We gotta nail this chick for a LOT more than than that, FOOL!" IOW, MS is preparing to take our legs out from under us. From now on, each successive version will have relatively less capabilites, not more (i.e. as more of the world's platforms move to .net or java, Access will be orphaned, less and less able to communicate with this world -- of course it will still be able to talk to Word and Excel, but those targets will grow increasingly insignificant). That's my reading of the tealeaves, and f**k the NDA. I am angry. "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." -- Benjamin Franklin -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Sent: April 2, 2003 2:51 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL All I am saying on this ADPS will remain a viable MS technology. How they interact with the server will changes. There are certain things you can do now that you will be unable to do with future releases of SQL Server. This is an SQL Server problem not an Access one. Products are developed by different teams and as I am finding out internal communication between teams at MS is crap. I was told and I quote "Bill Gates is very interested in Access as a power user tool" when I expressed my concerns over Access 11 offering little in the way of improvements for developers. The real thing that concerns me is the use of the term "Power USer" If MS dont take it serious as a developers tool then we will not see big changes. AS Susan says MS Office and ACcess is a major cash cow for Microsoft. No mission of it going. Lot of attention to ALpha 5 and they did give me a copy and as I said I was not impressed. One final thing. Some of us are privy to internal discussions at MS at times. Until they appear on paper thats all they are discussions. Martin _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Dave.Bucher at state.mn.us Wed Apr 2 16:26:57 2003 From: Dave.Bucher at state.mn.us (Bucher, Dave) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 16:26:57 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Securing an Excel file programmatically from Access Message-ID: Hi Everyone- Great praise to all you gurus who I've garnered much from in the past. Using Access97 and Excel97 ... I'm using DoCmd.OutputTo in Access to output reports in .xls format and programatically send (twice a month) to a client outside our network. The problem is, our network is secure and client's isn't, so the folks enforcing the big bad fed privacy laws don't want to let us send things with the push of a button! Talk about trying to keep good gov't. down! Does anyone have code to secure the newly (OutputTo) created Excel worksheet after it has been created prior to sending? Thanks much! Dave Bucher Information Technology Specialist Children's Research, Planning and Evaluation "Launch your boat, oh blessed youth, and flee at full speed from every form of culture."--Epicurus From jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com Wed Apr 2 16:58:15 2003 From: jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 17:58:15 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Securing an Excel file programmatically from Access In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Secure how? If it is personal information, it should be encrypted, or sent over a VPN. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Bucher, Dave Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 5:27 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: [AccessD] Securing an Excel file programmatically from Access Hi Everyone- Great praise to all you gurus who I've garnered much from in the past. Using Access97 and Excel97 ... I'm using DoCmd.OutputTo in Access to output reports in .xls format and programatically send (twice a month) to a client outside our network. The problem is, our network is secure and client's isn't, so the folks enforcing the big bad fed privacy laws don't want to let us send things with the push of a button! Talk about trying to keep good gov't. down! Does anyone have code to secure the newly (OutputTo) created Excel worksheet after it has been created prior to sending? Thanks much! Dave Bucher Information Technology Specialist Children's Research, Planning and Evaluation "Launch your boat, oh blessed youth, and flee at full speed from every form of culture."--Epicurus _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ---------------------------------------------------- Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2528 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com Wed Apr 2 17:04:59 2003 From: jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 18:04:59 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL In-Reply-To: <003601c2f965$60da0830$8e01a8c0@Rock> Message-ID: Woaaa. I think the man is angry? John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 5:16 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL F**K the NDA. You listers want an ostensible insider's take? Not that I'm close to the bone, just that I have a beta and few high friends in low places. Martin: >> Products are developed by different teams and as I am finding out internal communication between teams at MS is crap. This was mandated by the Fed. Chinese walls and all. No communication among teams = Equal Opportunity for 3Ps. Assuming that Bill and Steve ultimately agree to play by the rules imposed by the Fed, however egregious they might find it, this is the result. Team A rewrites product A2003 with no knowledge of what Team B is adding to product B2003. Even as an alleged leftist (by Hindman et. al., though I don't see it that way, I prefer the term post-capitalist, or one-worlder), this one confuses me. I want all software to work together, across platforms and languages etc. But is the price the virtual monopoly of one particular company that already owns say 89.9% of the software market? On the other hand, does it make any sense that the Access team is excluded from the SQL team's discussions? And even if that perverse interpretation were accurate, would you or I actually kneel down and obey this asinine conclusion? Outlook devs may never know what the Access devs are thinking, and vice-versa. Call me a criminal: I would say FU2 and hold secret meets in Starbucks, passing infa-red notes that explain secret shortcuts, undocumented and officially at least, not guaranteed to work. Beta code, so to speak. I am so disappointed by my tea-leaves reading that I am preparing to bail from Access. I didn't want to do this. For several years I have championed Access over alternative IDEs, and as any sort-list by my name will illustrate. I would do most anything to help persuade MS to reconsider this plan, but it's a fait-accompli I'm afraid. I was one of pioneers of ADP. MS hooked me instantly. Access suddenly became 100 times better than Enterprise Manager. I devoted thousands of hours to ADP, I fought in the trenches and discovered this problem and that problem and found work-arounds and published a few of them and offered a few more here for free, and now MS cuts the legs from under not only me but everyone else who has invested hours in ADP. You have no idea how sick this makes me feel. I have told some close friends who owned the companies I have worked for recently, to bet everything on the ADP/SQL technology. And now I have to tell them that maybe I can reverse-engineer it back to ODBC and somewhow save the day, for less dollars than it will actually cost because I'm so embarrassed that I recommended we trust Microsoft. I don't know what to do now. I think that every moment that I invest from here on in is a moment I should have spent learning more about .Net or Java. I am staying on this list because this is my home, and you are my family. But I am sick to my stomach. Here's the Access 11 I would have designed, imagining for a moment that I'm capable of holding such a job :-) 1. Lose DAPs. Replace this crap with wizards inherited from FrontPage, say, so they can generate pages that require nothing more than a browser, and on the server end nothing more than a successful connection object. 2. Supply a wizard that can inhale an Access app and from it create a corresponding .net webForms app. When it sees a form + n subForms object, it automatically creates either a dotnet subform or a linked page, you choose, globally and individually. 3. Somehow find a way to support the new stuff coming in the next SQL. Write all the IDE stuff as .Net forms etc. so they can be melded into any product. Another beta user on this list and I exchanged some private mail on A11, and found we were both on the same page. There isn't a book here, at the most a couple of chapters. In the O11 rewrite, Access got the backhand compliment. Three new features, wowee! So why the slap in the face? Eat the black tuplip because you own the other one, thereby trebling its value. I.e. force all Access professionals into .Net, our collection of paid courses, certs &c., all of which gen vastly mas dinero than the essentially freebie Access. "Josephine in Hoboken buys one copy of Office Developer... For how much? And can deploy anything she writes anywhere? Say again? Are you some kind of socialist? We gotta nail this chick for a LOT more than than that, FOOL!" IOW, MS is preparing to take our legs out from under us. From now on, each successive version will have relatively less capabilites, not more (i.e. as more of the world's platforms move to .net or java, Access will be orphaned, less and less able to communicate with this world -- of course it will still be able to talk to Word and Excel, but those targets will grow increasingly insignificant). That's my reading of the tealeaves, and f**k the NDA. I am angry. "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." -- Benjamin Franklin -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Sent: April 2, 2003 2:51 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL All I am saying on this ADPS will remain a viable MS technology. How they interact with the server will changes. There are certain things you can do now that you will be unable to do with future releases of SQL Server. This is an SQL Server problem not an Access one. Products are developed by different teams and as I am finding out internal communication between teams at MS is crap. I was told and I quote "Bill Gates is very interested in Access as a power user tool" when I expressed my concerns over Access 11 offering little in the way of improvements for developers. The real thing that concerns me is the use of the term "Power USer" If MS dont take it serious as a developers tool then we will not see big changes. AS Susan says MS Office and ACcess is a major cash cow for Microsoft. No mission of it going. Lot of attention to ALpha 5 and they did give me a copy and as I said I was not impressed. One final thing. Some of us are privy to internal discussions at MS at times. Until they appear on paper thats all they are discussions. Martin _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ---------------------------------------------------- Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. 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Rate for first time Successful apps are doomed to be rewritten. Failed apps simply die. -- Fuller's Third Law Congratulations on your success, and who among us has not had that same thought? "I --- the godlike being that I am -- wrote this shit!? Fuller's Fourth Law: Experts fail 100 times as often as the sum of failures by novices, intermediates and "power users". vbg ---------------------------------------------------- Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2076 bytes Desc: not available URL: From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Wed Apr 2 17:12:26 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 15:12:26 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Message-ID: Naw, it's just gas! Charlotte Foust > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. > Colby > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 3:05 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL > > Woaaa. I think the man is angry? > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Arthur > Fuller > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 5:16 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL > > > F**K the NDA. You listers want an ostensible insider's take? Not that > I'm > close to the bone, just that I have a beta and few high friends in low > places. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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John, in blue eye shadow and wearing a moomoo can be Mimi :) D -----Original Message----- From:Drew Wutka So I'm born with the most 'innate' talent in the Universe, JC goofs on my training, and I fall to the dark side...until my son (yet to be named) comes along and nearly kills me, which flips me back to the light side? Okay.... Drew _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ---------------------------------------------------- Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Rate for first time > > >Experts fail 100 times as often as the sum of failures by novices, > intermediates and "power users". > > I like to hope that is because we know enough to know what failure is. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Arthur > Fuller > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 3:39 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time > > > Successful apps are doomed to be rewritten. Failed apps simply die. > > -- Fuller's Third Law > > Congratulations on your success, and who among us has not had that > same > thought? 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URL: From michael.mattys at adelphia.net Wed Apr 2 17:24:15 2003 From: michael.mattys at adelphia.net (Michael R Mattys) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 18:24:15 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Securing an Excel file programmatically from Access References: Message-ID: <019e01c2f96e$fb9ca0e0$6401a8c0@default> Dave, Group Note that this will not work if the user disables macros and there is nothing you or I can do about it without messing with the user's computer: Call this function in WorkBook Open Public Function Lockdown() Dim wb As Workbook Dim ws As Worksheet Dim i As Integer i = 1 For Each wb In Application.Workbooks Set wb = Application.Workbooks(i) For Each ws In wb.Worksheets With ws .EnableSelection = xlNoSelection .Protect Contents:=True, UserInterfaceOnly:=True End With Next i = i + 1 Next End Function Michael R. Mattys www.mattysconsulting.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bucher, Dave" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 5:26 PM Subject: [AccessD] Securing an Excel file programmatically from Access > Hi Everyone- > > Great praise to all you gurus who I've garnered much from in the past. > > Using Access97 and Excel97 ... I'm using DoCmd.OutputTo in Access to output > reports in .xls format and programatically send (twice a month) to a client > outside our network. The problem is, our network is secure and client's > isn't, so the folks enforcing the big bad fed privacy laws don't want to let > us send things with the push of a button! Talk about trying to keep good > gov't. down! > > Does anyone have code to secure the newly (OutputTo) created Excel worksheet > after it has been created prior to sending? > > Thanks much! > > Dave Bucher > Information Technology Specialist > Children's Research, Planning and Evaluation > > "Launch your boat, oh blessed youth, and flee at full speed from every form > of culture."--Epicurus > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From harkins at iglou.com Wed Apr 2 17:18:31 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 18:18:31 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL References: <000a01c2f906$568d8370$9111758f@aine><01cc01c2f92d$7e764580$a4e6ffcc@SusanOne> <14535324373.20030402184035@cactus.dk> Message-ID: <00c401c2f96f$4ec64d20$ceecffcc@SusanOne> Well, a shock for anyone still using Win 3.1 -- can't. You have to upgrade Windows to use Access 11. Susan H. > Hi Susan > > Are you sure about Access 11? > > Quoting Mike Gunderloy, > Developer Central #24: Office 2003 First Impressions and more! > > "Access has no significant changes from Access 2002. It's not an exciting > time to be an Access developer. I'm revising one Access book for the new > version, but don't expect to do much other work with it." > > /gustav > > > > And what if it is? Think about it guys -- although some conversions are > > more work than others, and certainly Access 11 is going to be a shock (and > > Access 12 even more so) for a few still running older versions on W 3.1, has > > MS ever really just left you hanging? Well, maybe it has , I probably > > shouldn't ask when I don't really know the answer. > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From harkins at iglou.com Wed Apr 2 17:20:10 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 18:20:10 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL References: <000a01c2f906$568d8370$9111758f@aine><01cc01c2f92d$7e764580$a4e6ffcc@SusanOne> <13835861996.20030402184932@cactus.dk> Message-ID: <00c501c2f96f$4fab2ee0$ceecffcc@SusanOne> Kind of cool! ;) Susan H. > Developer Central #16 (the issue is archived online at > http://mcpmag.com/newsletter/article.asp?EditorialsID=136 if you want to > see what I said). From harkins at iglou.com Wed Apr 2 17:22:01 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 18:22:01 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time References: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A08ECB100@exchange.pgdp> Message-ID: <00c601c2f96f$508429c0$ceecffcc@SusanOne> Virginia, I laugh at some of the stuff I did yesterday. :) Susan H. > WOW! 1998, I can't believe it has been that long. I still feel so > inexperienced. Have you ever gone back and looked at something you did when > you first started - you think - I can't believe I did that! I remember > printing the screen for reports & had the navigation buttons showing on the > form when printed. > > Oh, hey, it has been more than a tiny part - I would say all of it! I can > honestly say I never would have been able to do anything without everyone's > help & patience. > > Just curious - what was my first question? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 11:28 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time > > > Hi Virginia > > > Thank you! I am a bit nervous about doing it all. I think once I get into > it > > I will calm down and it should start fitting together. Right now the whole > > project seems so overwhelming. > > > I don't know what I would do without everyone's help and support. Thank > you > > so much! > > You are very welcome! Maybe we all added a tiny tiny part to your > success (nice thought anyway)? In my nicely cleaned archive I located > more than 100 messages addressed to you from numerous list members - > the first message, by coincident, from myself in October 1998 in the > days of the old list of MT Group! > > /gustav > > > > Amazing! I'm so proud of your Virginia!!!! > > > Susan H. > > >> Congrats!!! > >> > >> John W. Colby > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au Wed Apr 2 17:27:20 2003 From: SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au (Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 09:27:20 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time References: Message-ID: <014b01c2f96f$681a37f0$54dd31d2@OfficePC> Just on that note, Charlotte. One of the biggest advantages of forming a company (proprietary limited) in my view was that according to advice from my accountant, should I be sued then my company's assets would be under fire, not my personal ones. It may be different in the U.S. Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: Charlotte Foust To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 6:44 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time You don't have to be incorporated for most contracts. All they want is an actualy entity, rather than a private individual, and a registered fictitious name (dba) serves that purpose. With a dba, all you need is your personal tax id number. You don't need a different taxpayer's ID unless you have employees. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: MartyConnelly [mailto:martyconnelly at shaw.ca] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 11:09 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time Hollis,Virginia wrote: >Well I got it for 60.00. The only thing, they said I would either have >to get a tax number or go through a temp agency. Well everyone knows >what happens when you go through an agency... I would end up with >probably 30 of that. > >So, how do I go about getting a tax number?? Is there anything else I >would need to do? > >Virginia > > > Hmm a temp agency should take no more than 15 to 20 % for administering a contract. Years ago I could get it for 10%, so shop around, I remember getting it for as low as 5% when I had to get my contract assured under a government master standing offer.. Generally there are 3 major steps to take 1. Either incorporate your self or form a limited liabilty partnership (can be a partner of one). Takes a week. If you set your self up as a numbered coporation it is quicker. They dont have to do a name search, if you decide to name your corporation as Virginia Hollis & Associates. Once you have incorporated or whatever level of business is allowed in your state you go to step 2 2 Take your State assigned incorporation number to a bank and open a Business or Commercial Account. You will have to show a physical letter with the number. Takes a couple of days. 3. Take your Bank Account and State Corporate Account number. and get your various tax account numbers from state and federal authorities (This is fairly straight forward unless you are hiring other people then you get into withholding taxes.) Could be a week (who knows?) Things to consider: It will cost you more to fully incorporate say 500 to 700 dollars I do it cheap (have a kid brother who is a lawyer). In Alberta you can incorporate online (just fill in the forms). They will even UPS your minute books and corporate seal. Fully incorporated, you have less liability, a limited partnership may leave you open to a legal suit where your house may be up for grabs. So you need Business Insurance or E&O (Errors and Ommissions) insurance. I don't know rates in US, in Canada its about a 3 - 5 hundred dollars a year per million depending on your business. At least you don't need K&R insurance from Lloyds at 3000 a month per million ;) You will probably want to hire an accountant who will do your taxes and books, don't skimp on this, in fact he can probably advise you on the best form of incorporation for your situation and what intial steps to take. Also he will tell you whether it is better for your corporation to pay you via monthly dividends or a direct salary (which may mean withholding taxes, unemployment insurance (more forms) etc depending on your state. You can probably sign your contract saying your government assigned numbers are pending. Knowing how long some companies will take to pay an invoice, some can be longer than 90 days, you will probably be okay. If this is a problem you might want to amend you contract to a shorter time frame once you have had a lawyer look at it. Discuss this before you sign. I have done 3'd party subcontracts to IBM where it has taken more than 6 months to be paid. If this is the case you may want to establish a good line of credit with your bank. You will not get this for your business for 2 years and established a banking record and have a written business plan, so it will have to be personal line of credit. I might be inclined to say go the temp route intially if your finacial situation is such that you don't have several months salary in the bank as a nestegg. Take this with a grain of salt because I am speaking from a Canadian perspective. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au Wed Apr 2 17:39:21 2003 From: SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au (Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 09:39:21 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Any brilliant ideas - pictures in 'flexible' positions Message-ID: <000c01c2f971$161830e0$54dd31d2@OfficePC> Hi everybody.. I am working on a system for a group of travel agents and today's task is to generate their quotes / itineraries. eg. Day 1, Rio, description of city, etc, Day 2 Manaus, description of tour etc. I have created the screen which will alow them for each day to select a city, one or more 'items' (eg. tour, hotel, flight details), and these will slot into the report when it is printed. They want the ability to drop photos in to the itineraries. When they select a particular item (city description) then the itinerary will always dislpay a photo. The users can select from a list of photo names held outside the database. But I am looking for some brilliant tips on how to place the photos into the report....when they nominate that a particular item should also include a photo, then the text should appear next to the photo, and when they only select text, the text should wrap to the whole page. I have a few ideas and will start but if anyone has does anything like this, I'd love to hear from you. Kath Kath Pelletti Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. Ph: 9505-6714 Fax: 9505-6430 SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carbonnb at sympatico.ca Wed Apr 2 17:59:06 2003 From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 18:59:06 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time In-Reply-To: <001201c2f957$edca14f0$8e01a8c0@Rock> References: Message-ID: <3E8B32FA.27514.1094246@localhost> On 2 Apr 2003 at 15:39, Arthur Fuller wrote: > Successful apps are doomed to be rewritten. Failed apps simply die. > > -- Fuller's Third Law Corollary to Fuller's Third Law: If a Failed app doesn't die quickly, it will quickly become a mission critical app that cannot be maintained :) -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca We're all here because we're not all there. From dmcafee at pacbell.net Wed Apr 2 18:20:17 2003 From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (David McAFee (Home)) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 16:20:17 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time In-Reply-To: <014b01c2f96f$681a37f0$54dd31d2@OfficePC> Message-ID: Its the same here in California. It is not required, you can work with with a DBA, but incorporating (as you mentioned) is known to cover your ASSets. D -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 3:27 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time Just on that note, Charlotte. One of the biggest advantages of forming a company (proprietary limited) in my view was that according to advice from my accountant, should I be sued then my company's assets would be under fire, not my personal ones. It may be different in the U.S. Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: Charlotte Foust To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 6:44 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time You don't have to be incorporated for most contracts. All they want is an actualy entity, rather than a private individual, and a registered fictitious name (dba) serves that purpose. With a dba, all you need is your personal tax id number. You don't need a different taxpayer's ID unless you have employees. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: MartyConnelly [mailto:martyconnelly at shaw.ca] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 11:09 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time Hollis,Virginia wrote: >Well I got it for 60.00. The only thing, they said I would either have >to get a tax number or go through a temp agency. Well everyone knows >what happens when you go through an agency... I would end up with >probably 30 of that. > >So, how do I go about getting a tax number?? Is there anything else I >would need to do? > >Virginia > > > Hmm a temp agency should take no more than 15 to 20 % for administering a contract. Years ago I could get it for 10%, so shop around, I remember getting it for as low as 5% when I had to get my contract assured under a government master standing offer.. Generally there are 3 major steps to take 1. Either incorporate your self or form a limited liabilty partnership (can be a partner of one). Takes a week. If you set your self up as a numbered coporation it is quicker. They dont have to do a name search, if you decide to name your corporation as Virginia Hollis & Associates. Once you have incorporated or whatever level of business is allowed in your state you go to step 2 2 Take your State assigned incorporation number to a bank and open a Business or Commercial Account. You will have to show a physical letter with the number. Takes a couple of days. 3. Take your Bank Account and State Corporate Account number. and get your various tax account numbers from state and federal authorities (This is fairly straight forward unless you are hiring other people then you get into withholding taxes.) Could be a week (who knows?) Things to consider: It will cost you more to fully incorporate say 500 to 700 dollars I do it cheap (have a kid brother who is a lawyer). In Alberta you can incorporate online (just fill in the forms). They will even UPS your minute books and corporate seal. Fully incorporated, you have less liability, a limited partnership may leave you open to a legal suit where your house may be up for grabs. So you need Business Insurance or E&O (Errors and Ommissions) insurance. I don't know rates in US, in Canada its about a 3 - 5 hundred dollars a year per million depending on your business. At least you don't need K&R insurance from Lloyds at 3000 a month per million ;) You will probably want to hire an accountant who will do your taxes and books, don't skimp on this, in fact he can probably advise you on the best form of incorporation for your situation and what intial steps to take. Also he will tell you whether it is better for your corporation to pay you via monthly dividends or a direct salary (which may mean withholding taxes, unemployment insurance (more forms) etc depending on your state. You can probably sign your contract saying your government assigned numbers are pending. Knowing how long some companies will take to pay an invoice, some can be longer than 90 days, you will probably be okay. If this is a problem you might want to amend you contract to a shorter time frame once you have had a lawyer look at it. Discuss this before you sign. I have done 3'd party subcontracts to IBM where it has taken more than 6 months to be paid. If this is the case you may want to establish a good line of credit with your bank. You will not get this for your business for 2 years and established a banking record and have a written business plan, so it will have to be personal line of credit. I might be inclined to say go the temp route intially if your finacial situation is such that you don't have several months salary in the bank as a nestegg. Take this with a grain of salt because I am speaking from a Canadian perspective. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From my.lists at verizon.net Wed Apr 2 18:47:29 2003 From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 16:47:29 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL References: <003601c2f965$60da0830$8e01a8c0@Rock> Message-ID: <000901c2f97a$9b3fef20$b615010a@FHTAPIA> Don't hold back Arthur, tell us how you reeeaaally feel :D -Francisco http://rcm.netfirms.com On Wednesday, April 02, 2003 2:15 PM [GMT-8], Arthur Fuller wrote: : That's my reading of the tealeaves, and f**k the NDA. I am angry. From jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com Wed Apr 2 18:48:25 2003 From: jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 19:48:25 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL In-Reply-To: <00c501c2f96f$4fab2ee0$ceecffcc@SusanOne> Message-ID: I'm trying to figure out what you are referring to. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 6:20 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Kind of cool! ;) Susan H. > Developer Central #16 (the issue is archived online at > http://mcpmag.com/newsletter/article.asp?EditorialsID=136 if you want to > see what I said). _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ---------------------------------------------------- Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 1960 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Wed Apr 2 19:02:58 2003 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 11:02:58 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Any brilliant ideas - pictures in 'flexible' positions In-Reply-To: <000c01c2f971$161830e0$54dd31d2@OfficePC> Message-ID: <3E8C14E2.28148.73DC09@localhost> On 3 Apr 2003 at 9:39, Software Design & Solutions P wrote: > Hi everybody.. I am working on a system for a group of travel agents > and today's task is to generate their quotes / itineraries. eg. Day 1, > Rio, description of city, etc, Day 2 Manaus, description of tour etc. > > I have created the screen which will alow them for each day to select > a city, one or more 'items' (eg. tour, hotel, flight details), and > these will slot into the report when it is printed. > > They want the ability to drop photos in to the itineraries. When they > select a particular item (city description) then the itinerary will > always dislpay a photo. The users can select from a list of photo > names held outside the database. > > But I am looking for some brilliant tips on how to place the photos > into the report....when they nominate that a particular item should > also include a photo, then the text should appear next to the photo, > and when they only select text, the text should wrap to the whole > page. > > I have a few ideas and will start but if anyone has does anything like > this, I'd love to hear from you. > Three controls in the detail sectiop of the report: txtItemWide, txtItemNarrow - both with the item text as the source imgPhoto Private Sub Detail_Format(Cancel As Integer, FormatCount As Integer) If Nz(ItemPhoto, "") > " " Then imgPhoto.Picture = PhotoFile imgPhoto.visible = true txtNarrow.visible = true txtWide.visible = false Else imgPhoto.visible = false txtNarrow.visible = false txtWide.visible = true End If End Sub -- Stuart McLachlan Lexacorp Ltd Application Development, IT Consultancy http://www.lexacorp.com.pg From artful at rogers.com Wed Apr 2 19:37:11 2003 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 20:37:11 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time In-Reply-To: <3E8B32FA.27514.1094246@localhost> Message-ID: <007e01c2f981$8c0dfea0$8e01a8c0@Rock> Ha ha ha ha ha! Second Corrolary, hereby named in your honour! "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." -- Benjamin Franklin -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell Sent: April 2, 2003 6:59 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time On 2 Apr 2003 at 15:39, Arthur Fuller wrote: > Successful apps are doomed to be rewritten. Failed apps simply die. > > -- Fuller's Third Law Corollary to Fuller's Third Law: If a Failed app doesn't die quickly, it will quickly become a mission critical app that cannot be maintained :) -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca We're all here because we're not all there. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From artful at rogers.com Wed Apr 2 19:38:09 2003 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 20:38:09 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL In-Reply-To: <000901c2f97a$9b3fef20$b615010a@FHTAPIA> Message-ID: <007f01c2f981$aee9f1e0$8e01a8c0@Rock> I was going to, but I thought it best to pull some punches :-) -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco H Tapia Sent: April 2, 2003 7:47 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Don't hold back Arthur, tell us how you reeeaaally feel :D -Francisco From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Wed Apr 2 19:40:59 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 17:40:59 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time Message-ID: No, it's the same in the US. However, if you just got a contract in California, you can get a dba while you wrestle with the details of creating a corporation. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. [mailto:SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 3:27 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time Just on that note, Charlotte. One of the biggest advantages of forming a company (proprietary limited) in my view was that according to advice from my accountant, should I be sued then my company's assets would be under fire, not my personal ones. It may be different in the U.S. Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: Charlotte Foust To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 6:44 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time You don't have to be incorporated for most contracts. All they want is an actualy entity, rather than a private individual, and a registered fictitious name (dba) serves that purpose. With a dba, all you need is your personal tax id number. You don't need a different taxpayer's ID unless you have employees. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: MartyConnelly [mailto:martyconnelly at shaw.ca] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 11:09 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT Got it: Was... Rate for first time Hollis,Virginia wrote: >Well I got it for 60.00. The only thing, they said I would either have >to get a tax number or go through a temp agency. Well everyone knows >what happens when you go through an agency... I would end up with >probably 30 of that. > >So, how do I go about getting a tax number?? Is there anything else I >would need to do? > >Virginia > > > Hmm a temp agency should take no more than 15 to 20 % for administering a contract. Years ago I could get it for 10%, so shop around, I remember getting it for as low as 5% when I had to get my contract assured under a government master standing offer.. Generally there are 3 major steps to take 1. Either incorporate your self or form a limited liabilty partnership (can be a partner of one). Takes a week. If you set your self up as a numbered coporation it is quicker. They dont have to do a name search, if you decide to name your corporation as Virginia Hollis & Associates. Once you have incorporated or whatever level of business is allowed in your state you go to step 2 2 Take your State assigned incorporation number to a bank and open a Business or Commercial Account. You will have to show a physical letter with the number. Takes a couple of days. 3. Take your Bank Account and State Corporate Account number. and get your various tax account numbers from state and federal authorities (This is fairly straight forward unless you are hiring other people then you get into withholding taxes.) Could be a week (who knows?) Things to consider: It will cost you more to fully incorporate say 500 to 700 dollars I do it cheap (have a kid brother who is a lawyer). In Alberta you can incorporate online (just fill in the forms). They will even UPS your minute books and corporate seal. Fully incorporated, you have less liability, a limited partnership may leave you open to a legal suit where your house may be up for grabs. So you need Business Insurance or E&O (Errors and Ommissions) insurance. I don't know rates in US, in Canada its about a 3 - 5 hundred dollars a year per million depending on your business. At least you don't need K&R insurance from Lloyds at 3000 a month per million ;) You will probably want to hire an accountant who will do your taxes and books, don't skimp on this, in fact he can probably advise you on the best form of incorporation for your situation and what intial steps to take. Also he will tell you whether it is better for your corporation to pay you via monthly dividends or a direct salary (which may mean withholding taxes, unemployment insurance (more forms) etc depending on your state. You can probably sign your contract saying your government assigned numbers are pending. Knowing how long some companies will take to pay an invoice, some can be longer than 90 days, you will probably be okay. If this is a problem you might want to amend you contract to a shorter time frame once you have had a lawyer look at it. Discuss this before you sign. I have done 3'd party subcontracts to IBM where it has taken more than 6 months to be paid. If this is the case you may want to establish a good line of credit with your bank. You will not get this for your business for 2 years and established a banking record and have a written business plan, so it will have to be personal line of credit. I might be inclined to say go the temp route intially if your finacial situation is such that you don't have several months salary in the bank as a nestegg. Take this with a grain of salt because I am speaking from a Canadian perspective. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 2 19:41:31 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 20:41:31 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL References: Message-ID: <005401c2f982$2719eb70$6101a8c0@amd2k512> ...angry, confused, leftist ...yes indeedy, Arthur is still with us :) ...and I've heard the "Access is Dead" mantra so many times in the last eight years ...soooooooooooo many times ...by the time it does happen, if ever, I'll be well into my second retirement and won't give a hoot anyway :))) William Hindman "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill ----- Original Message ----- From: "John W. Colby" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 6:04 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL > Woaaa. I think the man is angry? > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 5:16 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL > > > F**K the NDA. You listers want an ostensible insider's take? Not that I'm > close to the bone, just that I have a beta and few high friends in low > places. > > Martin: >> Products are developed by different teams and as I am finding out > internal communication between teams at MS is crap. > > This was mandated by the Fed. Chinese walls and all. No communication among > teams = Equal Opportunity for 3Ps. Assuming that Bill and Steve ultimately > agree to play by the rules imposed by the Fed, however egregious they might > find it, this is the result. Team A rewrites product A2003 with no knowledge > of what Team B is adding to product B2003. > > Even as an alleged leftist (by Hindman et. al., though I don't see it that > way, I prefer the term post-capitalist, or one-worlder), this one confuses > me. > > I want all software to work together, across platforms and languages etc. > > But is the price the virtual monopoly of one particular company that already > owns say 89.9% of the software market? > > On the other hand, does it make any sense that the Access team is excluded > from the SQL team's discussions? And even if that perverse interpretation > were accurate, would you or I actually kneel down and obey this asinine > conclusion? Outlook devs may never know what the Access devs are thinking, > and vice-versa. Call me a criminal: I would say FU2 and hold secret meets in > Starbucks, passing infa-red notes that explain secret shortcuts, > undocumented and officially at least, not guaranteed to work. Beta code, so > to speak. > > I am so disappointed by my tea-leaves reading that I am preparing to bail > from Access. I didn't want to do this. For several years I have championed > Access over alternative IDEs, and as any sort-list by my name will > illustrate. I would do most anything to help persuade MS to reconsider this > plan, but it's a fait-accompli I'm afraid. > > I was one of pioneers of ADP. MS hooked me instantly. Access suddenly became > 100 times better than Enterprise Manager. I devoted thousands of hours to > ADP, I fought in the trenches and discovered this problem and that problem > and found work-arounds and published a few of them and offered a few more > here for free, and now MS cuts the legs from under not only me but everyone > else who has invested hours in ADP. > > You have no idea how sick this makes me feel. I have told some close friends > who owned the companies I have worked for recently, to bet everything on the > ADP/SQL technology. And now I have to tell them that maybe I can > reverse-engineer it back to ODBC and somewhow save the day, for less dollars > than it will actually cost because I'm so embarrassed that I recommended we > trust Microsoft. > > I don't know what to do now. I think that every moment that I invest from > here on in is a moment I should have spent learning more about .Net or Java. > I am staying on this list because this is my home, and you are my family. > But I am sick to my stomach. > > Here's the Access 11 I would have designed, imagining for a moment that I'm > capable of holding such a job :-) > > 1. Lose DAPs. Replace this crap with wizards inherited from FrontPage, say, > so they can generate pages that require nothing more than a browser, and on > the server end nothing more than a successful connection object. > > 2. Supply a wizard that can inhale an Access app and from it create a > corresponding .net webForms app. When it sees a form + n subForms object, it > automatically creates either a dotnet subform or a linked page, you choose, > globally and individually. > > 3. Somehow find a way to support the new stuff coming in the next SQL. Write > all the IDE stuff as .Net forms etc. so they can be melded into any product. > > Another beta user on this list and I exchanged some private mail on A11, and > found we were both on the same page. There isn't a book here, at the most a > couple of chapters. In the O11 rewrite, Access got the backhand compliment. > Three new features, wowee! So why the slap in the face? > > Eat the black tuplip because you own the other one, thereby trebling its > value. I.e. force all Access professionals into .Net, our collection of paid > courses, certs &c., all of which gen vastly mas dinero than the essentially > freebie Access. "Josephine in Hoboken buys one copy of Office Developer... > For how much? And can deploy anything she writes anywhere? Say again? Are > you some kind of socialist? We gotta nail this chick for a LOT more than > than that, FOOL!" > > IOW, MS is preparing to take our legs out from under us. From now on, each > successive version will have relatively less capabilites, not more (i.e. as > more of the world's platforms move to .net or java, Access will be orphaned, > less and less able to communicate with this world -- of course it will still > be able to talk to Word and Excel, but those targets will grow increasingly > insignificant). > > That's my reading of the tealeaves, and f**k the NDA. I am angry. > > "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." > -- Benjamin Franklin > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK > Sent: April 2, 2003 2:51 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL > > > All I am saying on this > > ADPS will remain a viable MS technology. How they interact with the server > will changes. There are certain things you can do now that you will be > unable > to do with future releases of SQL Server. This is an SQL Server problem not > an > Access one. Products are developed by different teams and as I am finding > out > internal communication between teams at MS is crap. > > I was told and I quote > > "Bill Gates is very interested in Access as a power user tool" > > when I expressed my concerns over Access 11 offering little in the way of > improvements for developers. > > The real thing that concerns me is the use of the term "Power USer" If MS > dont > take it serious as a developers tool then we will not see big changes. AS > Susan says MS Office and ACcess is a major cash cow for Microsoft. No > mission of it going. Lot of attention to ALpha 5 and they did give me a copy > > and as I said I was not impressed. > > One final thing. Some of us are privy to internal discussions at MS at > times. > Until they appear on paper thats all they are discussions. > > Martin > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Is email taking over your day? 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Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 11:59:06 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Any brilliant ideas - pictures in 'flexible' positions References: <3E8C14E2.28148.73DC09@localhost> Message-ID: <001001c2f984$9bfa59f0$54dd31d2@OfficePC> That sounds great - the idea of the narrow and wide is perfect. Thanks Stuart Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: Stuart McLachlan To: Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. ; accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Any brilliant ideas - pictures in 'flexible' positions On 3 Apr 2003 at 9:39, Software Design & Solutions P wrote: > Hi everybody.. I am working on a system for a group of travel agents > and today's task is to generate their quotes / itineraries. eg. Day 1, > Rio, description of city, etc, Day 2 Manaus, description of tour etc. > > I have created the screen which will alow them for each day to select > a city, one or more 'items' (eg. tour, hotel, flight details), and > these will slot into the report when it is printed. > > They want the ability to drop photos in to the itineraries. When they > select a particular item (city description) then the itinerary will > always dislpay a photo. The users can select from a list of photo > names held outside the database. > > But I am looking for some brilliant tips on how to place the photos > into the report....when they nominate that a particular item should > also include a photo, then the text should appear next to the photo, > and when they only select text, the text should wrap to the whole > page. > > I have a few ideas and will start but if anyone has does anything like > this, I'd love to hear from you. > Three controls in the detail sectiop of the report: txtItemWide, txtItemNarrow - both with the item text as the source imgPhoto Private Sub Detail_Format(Cancel As Integer, FormatCount As Integer) If Nz(ItemPhoto, "") > " " Then imgPhoto.Picture = PhotoFile imgPhoto.visible = true txtNarrow.visible = true txtWide.visible = false Else imgPhoto.visible = false txtNarrow.visible = false txtWide.visible = true End If End Sub -- Stuart McLachlan Lexacorp Ltd Application Development, IT Consultancy http://www.lexacorp.com.pg _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The DOS Copy command will so try doing it with a Shell() instead of using Filecopy. But you really don't want anyone else in the BE while you are copying it!) The safest way is to only do the copy when no-one else is in the BE. To do that, close any connections to it in the users front end and use the Filecopy. An Error 70 will then serve as a warning that someone else is still using the BE and the backup can't be made safely. -- Stuart McLachlan Lexacorp Ltd Application Development, IT Consultancy http://www.lexacorp.com.pg From DWUTKA at marlow.com Thu Apr 3 00:11:31 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 00:11:31 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Indexing a Memo Field. Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D8256E@main2.marlow.com> Okay folks, I was chatting in email with Susan, and I brought up Indexing a Memo field. I don't know if everyone knows what an index really does, but essentially it is an internal 'table' within a database, that allows for faster searchs. How does that work? The best way I know of, to describe indexing is explaining something I did once for a Palm OS project. I had a phone list, where I wanted to be able to search by First Name, Last Name and Phone Number. The Palm app was exceptionally slow when trying to find a record within a table, so instead of letting the data control 'find' a record, I wrote an index routine. Essentially I duplicated the data table three times. One sorted by FirstName, one sorted by LastName, and one sorted by Extension/PhoneNumber. I create three seperate tables, which would be the 'indexes' for the three duplicates. Two of the 'index tables' were pretty much the same. (All three had the same structure). The two relating to first and last name had the first field as the 'letter' (which would be the first letter in the last or first name), the second field was the record position that was the start of that letter, and then the last field was a 'string' that contained the position of the next letter after the first. The Number table was similar, but it tracked the position of the numbers. Thus, when a user entered 'D', the code would jump to the fourth record in the index (since D is the fourth letter), then it would look at the second field and find that D started at position 50. So it would then jump to position 50 on the main table (which was sorted by first name), and beginning displaying the records starting with D. If the user entered R, after the D, then the code would again jump to the fourth record on the index table, get the starting position for the D's, then it would look in the last field, and determine where the R's started within the D's. Again, it now had the starting point for all first names starting with DR. Now, the AccessD archives are at roughly 140 megs (somewhere close to that). Doing a search on a subject field is pretty quick. So if you search the subject field for *test*, it pulls up almost instantaneously. However, if you do the same search on the memo field (which holds the body of the email), then it takes a while. What I built for the new archives (which are almost ready, I am just adding the capability to show a certain number at a time), what I did was create a VB program that 'indexes' the memo fields. It reads each memo field, splits it into the words that make up the message, then it puts each word and what message that word belongs to into a seperate table (in another database). So what I end up with is a table for each letter (a through z), and a table for non-letters. Thus 'Drew' is listed in IndexD.mdb, in tblWords, and the key for that record has records within tblWordsToMessages, which then have the key's to each record in the main database that has the word 'Drew' in it. Thus, when searching the archives with this new process, searching time is cut immensely since every word is indexed. I mentioned 'indexing' a memo field to Susan, and she replied that she 'could' index a memo field. That kind of shocked me, because I had spent several hours on my 'indexing' service. So I looked into this a bit. Access 97 does not let you do it at all. It doesn't give you an Index option in the field properties, no does it list the Memo Fields when you go to the 'indexes' window. A2k, however, also doesn't list Indexed as a property, but it does let you select Memo fields within the Indexes window. I then tested the speed of searching. Doing a search for *Drew* in the 97's memo field (on an old copy of the Archive database), took about 10 to 11 seconds to display all of the records. I converted that database to A2k (and set Unicode compression...which was already set), and the same query took about 22 seconds. (Go A2k!!! ). I then set the Index for the memo field in A2k. No speed increase. Also, when I set that index, it took about 5 seconds for Access to 'create' the index. So I immediately knew it wasn't indexing everything within the memo field. I then modified my query to search for Drew*. In 97 that took about 4 to 5 seconds. In A2k, it took about the same amount of time. With the index 'on' in A2k, it seemed to take a second or two longer.....now that I found VERY odd. So my question is, why in the world does A2k (and later versions) even give you the option to 'index' a memo field. It does seem to actually do anything?!?! Drew From DWUTKA at marlow.com Thu Apr 3 00:44:33 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 00:44:33 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] New Software releases Was: ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D8256F@main2.marlow.com> Arthur, I feel your pain! A lot of what you talked about is EXACTLY why I am still using 97 for a majority of my work. If A2k would have been a more solid release, then I may have moved up a notch, but with as poorly as it performed when first released, I was concreted in my opinion to stick with 97. There are several problems/reasons with Microsoft's 'version' strategy. Each new release has little advantage over the previous release. Why? Simple, they don't want to reinvent the wheel, and to truly increase a products capability, most of the time you need to start from scratch, so that you don't have the same obstacles you had when designing the early version. You can build from the ground up, keeping in mind what you are trying 'avoid' or improve. A lot of what IS changed in a new release is the look and feel. That is something that is relatively easy to accomplish. Take an old crappy car, give it a new paint job (and take out any dents), and you have probably seriously increased it's resale value. Have you really increased it's value though? Not by much. You have just made it shiner and prettier. Unfortunately, most of the computer/software buying world is put in complete rapture by shiny / pretty packages. (There's no other reason for Mac's popularity! ). Microsoft DOES NOT have the Access developer in mind when they make a new release. Why? Simple, WE AREN'T THEIR MARKET SHARE! Who buys more copies of Access, developers or end users? End Users of course. Thus, does Microsoft want to cater Access to the developer, or to the end user? If they had half a brain, they would ignore their accountants/marketing folks, and cater to the developers, because the developers are what REALLY make the end users buy Access. But they don't, they make Access 'simpler' and 'easier' for the end user. There is a problem with that though. If they truly made Access 'smart', so that anyone could do what we all do for a living, then they would have a really great product. Unfortunately, that is not going to happen for quite some time, because it would be virtually impossible to handle ALL of the scenarios we are put to the test on. Another problem with truly improving a product is the platform the product is designed for. I heard that Office 11 will not run on Windows 95 (or maybe it was 9x). That is actually a step in the right direction (sort of). The NT architecture has serious advantages over the 9x machines, however, if you have to design software to be backwards compatible, to a 'lesser' system, then you aren't going to get much of an increase in performance, if you get any at all! A new platform type is probably going to hit in a few years. Let's take the 'major' Microsoft OSes. DOS, Windows 95 (though it's really DOS 7.0...we'll call it an OS for now...), Windows 2000. Now, for simplicities sake, let's look at the processor speed that these run well on. It's roughly a factor of 10. 10 mhz, 100 mhz, and 1000 mhz. I know that's not when they were released, but at those speeds, the associated OS ran just fine on them. Going by that, the next real jump will be when we have 10 gigahertz processors available. If you look at what is currently available technology wise, it's possible to even predict some of the innate capabilities of a new platform. Windows 2000 can already index your file system, which immensely increases file searches. A truly new platform may be able to index down to the actual data level, increasing ALL searches (both files and db). You also have speech to text and a limited 'plain language' SQL available. With the resources that will be available at 10 gigahertz (remember, HD speed and space will increase, RAM will increase, etc.), it would be possible to truly have an intelligent machine that you could just talk too. ('Wish Mom a Merry Christmas'...turns into an instant email with Christmas greetings sent to your mother. To do that now, with Speech to Text, you would have to 'talk' your computer through it.). When a new platform comes out, THAT's when there will be a truly new Access, if it is still a separate package. Not that MS would intentionally destroy Access, but look at XP. You have a built in firewall (if you can call it that! ), and also built in Zip technology. A new platform would probably have the entire Office Suite (and some) completely built into it's 'accessories'. Oh well, enough predicting..... There is one thing that is going to really 'protect' the developers world. Access is not a stand alone package, by that I mean that you don't have to have Access to use it, and you also don't have to use it ONLY within Access. Access is a great database system. To protect an application from getting caught in the MS product update loop, just don't make FE's in Access. Access FE's are susceptible to Office upgrades. Sure, if the upgrade is perfect, then there's no issue, but can that be guaranteed? However, a Web or VB interface to an Access database is not going to be affected one bit, by an Office upgrade. If you have a 97 BE, with a VB FE, and you go install Office 2002, or Office 11, you don't have to worry about your VB/Access project one bit! I know that I'll probably get yelled at about this paragraph, but you have to admit, that is a BIG advantage. Access is extremely capable of making very impressive GUI's to it's data, but it's fatal flaw is the MS product update cycle. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 4:16 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL F**K the NDA. You listers want an ostensible insider's take? Not that I'm close to the bone, just that I have a beta and few high friends in low places. From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk Thu Apr 3 02:30:12 2003 From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 09:30:12 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] OT / Roz Got Married Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C83188039566E5@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk> Thanks everyone *hugs*, but much as I could chat all day, all WEEK about it, I know not everyone is so totally enthralled by the topic. Beavered away last night and got the pics set up on our own site - and lots more of them - at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/maxamber/gallery/gallery.htm The b&w ones were taken by our friends Sienna & Enzo and are really good photos. I hope you like it 'cause I missed the football to get it done! That's it from me - if you can stand to hear any more you have my yahoo address and my msn id is the same. Roz -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: 02 April 2003 19:30 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT / Roz Got Married I second that. I think part of the 'charm' of the List, is that it's like a big family. Drew -----Original Message----- From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 8:54 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] OT / Roz Got Married ...ok ...change in subject to be PC ...but anytime one of our own has such a major life change, it is ON TOPIC as far as I'm concerned ...Pamela had already sent me some pics ...just thought the rest of AccessD would like to know how great you looked :))) William Hindman "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill ----- Original Message ----- From: Roz Clarke To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 8:00 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Roz Got Married ...was Updating queries with linked tables LOL OK I'll tell, but remember I'm supposed to be setting a good example!! Pics aren't up anywhere as yet, hopefully we can get that done tonight before folks lose interest :) As you can see, I'm honeymooning in the office, but the wedding itself was completely fab. Marrying Paul was the most exciting moment of my whole life, the venue was ace, we both shook all the way through the ceremony, people cried, my hair was fantastic (ask Pamela, she's had a photo), I mean, it was just wonderful. And it was OURS I guess you always think your own will be the best wedding you've been to (and it was) but so many other people said the same thing that I have to believe it was a good wedding! I can't send photos from here but if anyone wants one, mail me at zora_db at yahoo.com and I'll send one when I get home tonight. -----Original Message----- From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] Sent: 02 April 2003 03:54 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Roz Got Married ...was Updating queries with linked tables ...to heck with queries Roz ...tell us about the wedding, the honeymoon ...and where the pics are? :)))) William Hindman "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill ----- Original Message ----- From: Roz Clarke To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:52 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables No blank record, all fields locked. It wouldn't surprise me if this is just a 'feature'. R. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: 01 April 2003 16:25 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables Well, when you say "combine" -- I think of append or UNION. Relationships "join" records -- nothing wrong with the way you siad it -- I just thought I'd check to make sure. So here's the next question -- how do you know it's not updateable? Are you getting an error message? Is there a blank (new) record at the bottom of the query in Datasheet View? Susan H. Standard left outer join on staff ID - is there another way?! *bangs head on desk* R. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: 31-Mar-2003 17:20 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updating queries with linked tables How are you combining your tables? Susan H. What I'm finding (and I can't believe I never hit this before) is that although the SQL tables can be updated through the Access FE, and the local tables can be updated, combine them and wallop, not updateable. 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URL: From gustav at cactus.dk Thu Apr 3 03:11:16 2003 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 11:11:16 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1148001004.20030403111116@cactus.dk> Hi Susan No, sorry, neither did I catch your point here ... /gustav > I'm trying to figure out what you are referring to. > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 6:20 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL > Kind of cool! ;) > Susan H. >> Developer Central #16 (the issue is archived online at >> http://mcpmag.com/newsletter/article.asp?EditorialsID=136 if you want to >> see what I said). From gustav at cactus.dk Thu Apr 3 03:21:29 2003 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 11:21:29 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL In-Reply-To: <00c401c2f96f$4ec64d20$ceecffcc@SusanOne> References: <000a01c2f906$568d8370$9111758f@aine><01cc01c2f92d$7e764580$a4e6ffcc@SusanOne> <00c401c2f96f$4ec64d20$ceecffcc@SusanOne> Message-ID: <338614166.20030403112129@cactus.dk> Hi Susan As far as I know, Access 1.x and 2.0 are the only versions that run on Windows 3.1x. So that shock - moving from Win 3.1x to a Win32 platform - will only happen for those moving now from Access 2.0 and lower (running on Win 3.1x!) to Access 95 or higher. How many could that be?? Is any member of this list running Access 2.0/Win 3.1x exclusively? Please step forward. /gustav > Well, a shock for anyone still using Win 3.1 -- can't. You have to upgrade > Windows to use Access 11. > Susan H. >> Are you sure about Access 11? >> >> Quoting Mike Gunderloy, >> Developer Central #24: Office 2003 First Impressions and more! >> >> "Access has no significant changes from Access 2002. It's not an exciting >> time to be an Access developer. I'm revising one Access book for the new >> version, but don't expect to do much other work with it." >> >> /gustav >> >> >> > And what if it is? Think about it guys -- although some conversions are >> > more work than others, and certainly Access 11 is going to be a shock >> > (and Access 12 even more so) for a few still running older >> > versions on W 3.1, has >> > MS ever really just left you hanging? Well, maybe it has , I probably >> > shouldn't ask when I don't really know the answer. From gustav at cactus.dk Thu Apr 3 03:33:04 2003 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 11:33:04 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL In-Reply-To: <003601c2f965$60da0830$8e01a8c0@Rock> References: <003601c2f965$60da0830$8e01a8c0@Rock> Message-ID: <169309376.20030403113304@cactus.dk> Hi Arthur Many thanks for that briefing, Arthur. Just two comments: 1. MS has always promoted Access as a super user tool. Its capabilities as a developer tool has been a (nice) side effect. That's why it is offered as a part of the Office suite and not as a developer tool. 2. Never trust Microsoft. /gustav > F**K the NDA. You listers want an ostensible insider's take? Not that I'm > close to the bone, just that I have a beta and few high friends in low > places. From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Apr 3 04:19:00 2003 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD)) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 02:19:00 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL In-Reply-To: <1148001004.20030403111116@cactus.dk> Message-ID: KRUD: It is a LINUX version that boots off a CD...Great implementation...full featured...got a copy of a friend, when I was down in LA, last Christmas. Only uses the booting computer to store a preference file. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 1:11 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Hi Susan No, sorry, neither did I catch your point here ... /gustav > I'm trying to figure out what you are referring to. > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 6:20 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL > Kind of cool! ;) > Susan H. >> Developer Central #16 (the issue is archived online at >> http://mcpmag.com/newsletter/article.asp?EditorialsID=136 if you want to >> see what I said). _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 3 05:26:48 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 06:26:48 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] New Software releases Was: ADP vs Access mdb/SQL References: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D8256F@main2.marlow.com> Message-ID: <002d01c2f9d3$ea4bff60$6101a8c0@amd2k512> "A new platform would probably have the entire Office Suite (and some) completely built into it's 'accessories'." Drew ...like there's a chance in hell of that happening ...the Office Suite makes one heck of a lot more money for MS than all of it's OS products put together ...no way it will ever be accessorized :))))) "I know that I'll probably get yelled at about this paragraph, but you have to admit, that is a BIG advantage." Drew ...no I don't ...I make a good bit of money off of MS product "upgrades" ...besides which, if I made VB my primary development environment, I'd have to triple my client's costs just to account for the increased development time it requires :))))) William Hindman What's the five-day forecast for Baghdad? Three days. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Drew Wutka" To: Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 1:44 AM Subject: [AccessD] New Software releases Was: ADP vs Access mdb/SQL > Arthur, I feel your pain! > > A lot of what you talked about is EXACTLY why I am still using 97 for a > majority of my work. If A2k would have been a more solid release, then I > may have moved up a notch, but with as poorly as it performed when first > released, I was concreted in my opinion to stick with 97. > > There are several problems/reasons with Microsoft's 'version' strategy. > > Each new release has little advantage over the previous release. > Why? Simple, they don't want to reinvent the wheel, and to truly increase a > products capability, most of the time you need to start from scratch, so > that you don't have the same obstacles you had when designing the early > version. You can build from the ground up, keeping in mind what you are > trying 'avoid' or improve. > > A lot of what IS changed in a new release is the look and feel. > That is something that is relatively easy to accomplish. Take an old crappy > car, give it a new paint job (and take out any dents), and you have probably > seriously increased it's resale value. Have you really increased it's value > though? Not by much. You have just made it shiner and prettier. > Unfortunately, most of the computer/software buying world is put in complete > rapture by shiny / pretty packages. (There's no other reason for Mac's > popularity! ). > > Microsoft DOES NOT have the Access developer in mind when they make > a new release. Why? Simple, WE AREN'T THEIR MARKET SHARE! Who buys more > copies of Access, developers or end users? End Users of course. Thus, does > Microsoft want to cater Access to the developer, or to the end user? If > they had half a brain, they would ignore their accountants/marketing folks, > and cater to the developers, because the developers are what REALLY make the > end users buy Access. But they don't, they make Access 'simpler' and > 'easier' for the end user. There is a problem with that though. If they > truly made Access 'smart', so that anyone could do what we all do for a > living, then they would have a really great product. Unfortunately, that is > not going to happen for quite some time, because it would be virtually > impossible to handle ALL of the scenarios we are put to the test on. > > Another problem with truly improving a product is the platform the > product is designed for. I heard that Office 11 will not run on Windows 95 > (or maybe it was 9x). That is actually a step in the right direction (sort > of). The NT architecture has serious advantages over the 9x machines, > however, if you have to design software to be backwards compatible, to a > 'lesser' system, then you aren't going to get much of an increase in > performance, if you get any at all! > > A new platform type is probably going to hit in a few years. Let's > take the 'major' Microsoft OSes. DOS, Windows 95 (though it's really DOS > 7.0...we'll call it an OS for now...), Windows 2000. Now, for simplicities > sake, let's look at the processor speed that these run well on. It's > roughly a factor of 10. 10 mhz, 100 mhz, and 1000 mhz. I know that's not > when they were released, but at those speeds, the associated OS ran just > fine on them. Going by that, the next real jump will be when we have 10 > gigahertz processors available. If you look at what is currently available > technology wise, it's possible to even predict some of the innate > capabilities of a new platform. Windows 2000 can already index your file > system, which immensely increases file searches. A truly new platform may > be able to index down to the actual data level, increasing ALL searches > (both files and db). You also have speech to text and a limited 'plain > language' SQL available. With the resources that will be available at 10 > gigahertz (remember, HD speed and space will increase, RAM will increase, > etc.), it would be possible to truly have an intelligent machine that you > could just talk too. ('Wish Mom a Merry Christmas'...turns into an instant > email with Christmas greetings sent to your mother. To do that now, with > Speech to Text, you would have to 'talk' your computer through it.). > > When a new platform comes out, THAT's when there will be a truly new > Access, if it is still a separate package. Not that MS would intentionally > destroy Access, but look at XP. You have a built in firewall (if you can > call it that! ), and also built in Zip technology. A new platform > would probably have the entire Office Suite (and some) completely built into > it's 'accessories'. > > Oh well, enough predicting..... > > There is one thing that is going to really 'protect' the developers > world. Access is not a stand alone package, by that I mean that you don't > have to have Access to use it, and you also don't have to use it ONLY within > Access. Access is a great database system. To protect an application from > getting caught in the MS product update loop, just don't make FE's in > Access. Access FE's are susceptible to Office upgrades. Sure, if the > upgrade is perfect, then there's no issue, but can that be guaranteed? > However, a Web or VB interface to an Access database is not going to be > affected one bit, by an Office upgrade. If you have a 97 BE, with a VB FE, > and you go install Office 2002, or Office 11, you don't have to worry about > your VB/Access project one bit! I know that I'll probably get yelled at > about this paragraph, but you have to admit, that is a BIG advantage. > Access is extremely capable of making very impressive GUI's to it's data, > but it's fatal flaw is the MS product update cycle. > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 4:16 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL > > > F**K the NDA. You listers want an ostensible insider's take? Not that I'm > close to the bone, just that I have a beta and few high friends in low > places. > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Thu Apr 3 07:16:01 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 07:16:01 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Securing an Excel file programmatically from Access Message-ID: Dave, We also cannot send any data covered by any of the privacy laws/regs to outsiders unless they sign the same privacy statement that we have to sign. Once your outside client has signed the required paperwork and put in place the required privacy restrictions, your security people should have no objections to you pushing a button and sending the data. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Bucher, Dave [mailto:Dave.Bucher at state.mn.us] Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 02 16:27 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: [AccessD] Securing an Excel file programmatically from Access Hi Everyone- Great praise to all you gurus who I've garnered much from in the past. Using Access97 and Excel97 ... I'm using DoCmd.OutputTo in Access to output reports in .xls format and programatically send (twice a month) to a client outside our network. The problem is, our network is secure and client's isn't, so the folks enforcing the big bad fed privacy laws don't want to let us send things with the push of a button! Talk about trying to keep good gov't. down! Does anyone have code to secure the newly (OutputTo) created Excel worksheet after it has been created prior to sending? Thanks much! Dave Bucher Information Technology Specialist Children's Research, Planning and Evaluation "Launch your boat, oh blessed youth, and flee at full speed from every form of culture."--Epicurus From jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com Thu Apr 3 07:34:35 2003 From: jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 08:34:35 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: OK, but how does KRUD relate to Susan's message? She said to go to a web site. I went there looking for a review of something she wrote. Never did find it. And of course the subject is "[AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL" so you have to pardon my asking what krud has to do with the subject? John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence (AccessD) Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 5:19 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL KRUD: It is a LINUX version that boots off a CD...Great implementation...full featured...got a copy of a friend, when I was down in LA, last Christmas. Only uses the booting computer to store a preference file. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 1:11 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Hi Susan No, sorry, neither did I catch your point here ... /gustav > I'm trying to figure out what you are referring to. > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 6:20 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL > Kind of cool! ;) > Susan H. >> Developer Central #16 (the issue is archived online at >> http://mcpmag.com/newsletter/article.asp?EditorialsID=136 if you want to >> see what I said). _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ---------------------------------------------------- Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2592 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com Thu Apr 3 07:37:33 2003 From: jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 08:37:33 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL In-Reply-To: <169309376.20030403113304@cactus.dk> Message-ID: >1. MS has always promoted Access as a super user tool. You know, that's true except - they have spent a TON of money making the whole VBA thing talk to the object model. They actually write their own wizards in VBA. So they have also treated it as a true development system, including a very nice IDE for doing breakpoints, watches, debug window etc. That is NOT a "Power user's tool" by any stretch of the imagination. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 4:33 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Hi Arthur Many thanks for that briefing, Arthur. Just two comments: 1. MS has always promoted Access as a super user tool. Its capabilities as a developer tool has been a (nice) side effect. That's why it is offered as a part of the Office suite and not as a developer tool. 2. Never trust Microsoft. /gustav > F**K the NDA. You listers want an ostensible insider's take? Not that I'm > close to the bone, just that I have a beta and few high friends in low > places. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ---------------------------------------------------- Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2416 bytes Desc: not available URL: From gustav at cactus.dk Thu Apr 3 07:54:01 2003 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 15:54:01 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL In-Reply-To: <338614166.20030403112129@cactus.dk> References: <000a01c2f906$568d8370$9111758f@aine><01cc01c2f92d$7e764580$a4e6ffcc@SusanOne> <338614166.20030403112129@cactus.dk> Message-ID: <4824966079.20030403155401@cactus.dk> Hi Susan Oops, read another post about Access 11 running on Win2000+ only ... So you don't mean Win 3.1 but Win9x, right? /gustav > As far as I know, Access 1.x and 2.0 are the only versions that run on > Windows 3.1x. So that shock - moving from Win 3.1x to a Win32 platform > - will only happen for those moving now from Access 2.0 and lower > (running on Win 3.1x!) to Access 95 or higher. > How many could that be?? > Is any member of this list running Access 2.0/Win 3.1x exclusively? > Please step forward. > /gustav >> Well, a shock for anyone still using Win 3.1 -- can't. You have to upgrade >> Windows to use Access 11. >> Susan H. >>> Are you sure about Access 11? >>> >>> Quoting Mike Gunderloy, >>> Developer Central #24: Office 2003 First Impressions and more! >>> >>> "Access has no significant changes from Access 2002. It's not an exciting >>> time to be an Access developer. I'm revising one Access book for the new >>> version, but don't expect to do much other work with it." >>> >>> /gustav >>> >>> >>> > And what if it is? Think about it guys -- although some conversions are >>> > more work than others, and certainly Access 11 is going to be a shock >>> > (and Access 12 even more so) for a few still running older >>> > versions on W 3.1, has >>> > MS ever really just left you hanging? Well, maybe it has , I probably >>> > shouldn't ask when I don't really know the answer. From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com Thu Apr 3 08:57:55 2003 From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 08:57:55 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Table for Emp, Location, etc Message-ID: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A08ECB119@exchange.pgdp> On setting up a tables for employees, evaluators, their locations and supervisors. Is it better to create a table for each (location, employee, supervisor, evaluator) then in each table have the locationID, supervisorID, etc. Or is it better to have each table & join it together in one table with only the key fields, EmpID, SupervisorID, LocationID, EvaluatorID? Virginia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com Thu Apr 3 09:09:45 2003 From: jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 10:09:45 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Table for Emp, Location, etc In-Reply-To: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A08ECB119@exchange.pgdp> Message-ID: That depends on whether an object can have more than one Location, Supervisor etc. Your second solution allows as many combinations as you need. The first allows each to have one. I would think you would have: Employees Evaluators Locations and Supervisors Assuming: Each Employee has one supervisor, then the Employee table has a Foreign Key SupID Each Employee has one location, then the Employee table has a FK LocID Each Employee has one Evaluator, then the Employee table has a FK EvID You haven't really expressed the relationships of all the objects. Do Evaluators have locations? Do supervisors have locations? Only one? If only one then an ID field directly in the Evaluator table to relate the Evaluator to the location. If more than one, then a M-M table relating the evaluator to many locations. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hollis,Virginia Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 9:58 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: [AccessD] Table for Emp, Location, etc On setting up a tables for employees, evaluators, their locations and supervisors. Is it better to create a table for each (location, employee, supervisor, evaluator) then in each table have the locationID, supervisorID, etc. Or is it better to have each table & join it together in one table with only the key fields, EmpID, SupervisorID, LocationID, EvaluatorID? Virginia ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Is email taking over your day? 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(315) 699-3443 jimdettman at earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of William Hindman Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 8:42 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL ...angry, confused, leftist ...yes indeedy, Arthur is still with us :) ...and I've heard the "Access is Dead" mantra so many times in the last eight years ...soooooooooooo many times ...by the time it does happen, if ever, I'll be well into my second retirement and won't give a hoot anyway :))) William Hindman "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill ----- Original Message ----- From: "John W. Colby" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 6:04 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL > Woaaa. I think the man is angry? > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 5:16 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL > > > F**K the NDA. You listers want an ostensible insider's take? Not that I'm > close to the bone, just that I have a beta and few high friends in low > places. > > Martin: >> Products are developed by different teams and as I am finding out > internal communication between teams at MS is crap. > > This was mandated by the Fed. Chinese walls and all. No communication among > teams = Equal Opportunity for 3Ps. Assuming that Bill and Steve ultimately > agree to play by the rules imposed by the Fed, however egregious they might > find it, this is the result. Team A rewrites product A2003 with no knowledge > of what Team B is adding to product B2003. > > Even as an alleged leftist (by Hindman et. al., though I don't see it that > way, I prefer the term post-capitalist, or one-worlder), this one confuses > me. > > I want all software to work together, across platforms and languages etc. > > But is the price the virtual monopoly of one particular company that already > owns say 89.9% of the software market? > > On the other hand, does it make any sense that the Access team is excluded > from the SQL team's discussions? And even if that perverse interpretation > were accurate, would you or I actually kneel down and obey this asinine > conclusion? Outlook devs may never know what the Access devs are thinking, > and vice-versa. Call me a criminal: I would say FU2 and hold secret meets in > Starbucks, passing infa-red notes that explain secret shortcuts, > undocumented and officially at least, not guaranteed to work. Beta code, so > to speak. > > I am so disappointed by my tea-leaves reading that I am preparing to bail > from Access. I didn't want to do this. For several years I have championed > Access over alternative IDEs, and as any sort-list by my name will > illustrate. I would do most anything to help persuade MS to reconsider this > plan, but it's a fait-accompli I'm afraid. > > I was one of pioneers of ADP. MS hooked me instantly. Access suddenly became > 100 times better than Enterprise Manager. I devoted thousands of hours to > ADP, I fought in the trenches and discovered this problem and that problem > and found work-arounds and published a few of them and offered a few more > here for free, and now MS cuts the legs from under not only me but everyone > else who has invested hours in ADP. > > You have no idea how sick this makes me feel. I have told some close friends > who owned the companies I have worked for recently, to bet everything on the > ADP/SQL technology. And now I have to tell them that maybe I can > reverse-engineer it back to ODBC and somewhow save the day, for less dollars > than it will actually cost because I'm so embarrassed that I recommended we > trust Microsoft. > > I don't know what to do now. I think that every moment that I invest from > here on in is a moment I should have spent learning more about .Net or Java. > I am staying on this list because this is my home, and you are my family. > But I am sick to my stomach. > > Here's the Access 11 I would have designed, imagining for a moment that I'm > capable of holding such a job :-) > > 1. Lose DAPs. Replace this crap with wizards inherited from FrontPage, say, > so they can generate pages that require nothing more than a browser, and on > the server end nothing more than a successful connection object. > > 2. Supply a wizard that can inhale an Access app and from it create a > corresponding .net webForms app. When it sees a form + n subForms object, it > automatically creates either a dotnet subform or a linked page, you choose, > globally and individually. > > 3. Somehow find a way to support the new stuff coming in the next SQL. Write > all the IDE stuff as .Net forms etc. so they can be melded into any product. > > Another beta user on this list and I exchanged some private mail on A11, and > found we were both on the same page. There isn't a book here, at the most a > couple of chapters. In the O11 rewrite, Access got the backhand compliment. > Three new features, wowee! So why the slap in the face? > > Eat the black tuplip because you own the other one, thereby trebling its > value. I.e. force all Access professionals into .Net, our collection of paid > courses, certs &c., all of which gen vastly mas dinero than the essentially > freebie Access. "Josephine in Hoboken buys one copy of Office Developer... > For how much? And can deploy anything she writes anywhere? Say again? Are > you some kind of socialist? We gotta nail this chick for a LOT more than > than that, FOOL!" > > IOW, MS is preparing to take our legs out from under us. From now on, each > successive version will have relatively less capabilites, not more (i.e. as > more of the world's platforms move to .net or java, Access will be orphaned, > less and less able to communicate with this world -- of course it will still > be able to talk to Word and Excel, but those targets will grow increasingly > insignificant). > > That's my reading of the tealeaves, and f**k the NDA. I am angry. > > "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." > -- Benjamin Franklin > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK > Sent: April 2, 2003 2:51 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL > > > All I am saying on this > > ADPS will remain a viable MS technology. How they interact with the server > will changes. There are certain things you can do now that you will be > unable > to do with future releases of SQL Server. This is an SQL Server problem not > an > Access one. Products are developed by different teams and as I am finding > out > internal communication between teams at MS is crap. > > I was told and I quote > > "Bill Gates is very interested in Access as a power user tool" > > when I expressed my concerns over Access 11 offering little in the way of > improvements for developers. > > The real thing that concerns me is the use of the term "Power USer" If MS > dont > take it serious as a developers tool then we will not see big changes. AS > Susan says MS Office and ACcess is a major cash cow for Microsoft. No > mission of it going. Lot of attention to ALpha 5 and they did give me a copy > > and as I said I was not impressed. > > One final thing. Some of us are privy to internal discussions at MS at > times. > Until they appear on paper thats all they are discussions. > > Martin > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. > Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jimdettman at earthlink.net Thu Apr 3 09:10:09 2003 From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 10:10:09 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL In-Reply-To: <4824966079.20030403155401@cactus.dk> Message-ID: Gustav, FWIW their doing the same thing with VFP 8.0, but not quite as restrictive. You must develop on Win 2000 and up, but it can run on anything back to Win 95. Jim Dettman President, Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc. (315) 699-3443 jimdettman at earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 8:54 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Hi Susan Oops, read another post about Access 11 running on Win2000+ only ... So you don't mean Win 3.1 but Win9x, right? /gustav > As far as I know, Access 1.x and 2.0 are the only versions that run on > Windows 3.1x. So that shock - moving from Win 3.1x to a Win32 platform > - will only happen for those moving now from Access 2.0 and lower > (running on Win 3.1x!) to Access 95 or higher. > How many could that be?? > Is any member of this list running Access 2.0/Win 3.1x exclusively? > Please step forward. > /gustav >> Well, a shock for anyone still using Win 3.1 -- can't. You have to upgrade >> Windows to use Access 11. >> Susan H. >>> Are you sure about Access 11? >>> >>> Quoting Mike Gunderloy, >>> Developer Central #24: Office 2003 First Impressions and more! >>> >>> "Access has no significant changes from Access 2002. It's not an exciting >>> time to be an Access developer. I'm revising one Access book for the new >>> version, but don't expect to do much other work with it." >>> >>> /gustav >>> >>> >>> > And what if it is? Think about it guys -- although some conversions are >>> > more work than others, and certainly Access 11 is going to be a shock >>> > (and Access 12 even more so) for a few still running older >>> > versions on W 3.1, has >>> > MS ever really just left you hanging? Well, maybe it has , I probably >>> > shouldn't ask when I don't really know the answer. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bchacc at san.rr.com Thu Apr 3 09:15:37 2003 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 07:15:37 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Permission denied References: <3E8C5752.23390.1776A94@localhost> Message-ID: <002701c2f9f3$e182f3a0$6501a8c0@HAL9002> Stuart: How do I close the connections? Rocky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart McLachlan" To: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" ; Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Permission denied > On 2 Apr 2003 at 21:11, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access S wrote: > > > Dear List: > > > > I get Error 70: Permission Denied when I try to execute: > > > > FileCopy gstrDatabaseName, varFileName > > > > where gstrDatabaseName contains the full valid path of the current back end and varFileName contains the full path and file name of the target. What am I doing wrong? > > > > I'm trying to give the user a way to make a backup copy of their database. Is there a better way? > > > > Filecopy won't copy a file while it is open R/W by an application (which the current database is). > The DOS Copy command will so try doing it with a Shell() instead of using Filecopy. But you really don't want anyone > else in the BE while you are copying it!) > > The safest way is to only do the copy when no-one else is in the BE. To do that, close any connections to it in the users > front end and use the Filecopy. An Error 70 will then serve as a warning that someone else is still using the BE and the > backup can't be made safely. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Stuart McLachlan > Lexacorp Ltd > Application Development, IT Consultancy > http://www.lexacorp.com.pg > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Thu Apr 3 09:20:37 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 09:20:37 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Table for Emp, Location, etc Message-ID: Virginia, Also, can an Evaluator be an Employee or Supervisor? If so, then a person can play more than one role in these relationships and you have a M-M relationship. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com] Sent: Thursday 2003 Apr 03 09:10 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Table for Emp, Location, etc That depends on whether an object can have more than one Location, Supervisor etc. Your second solution allows as many combinations as you need. The first allows each to have one. I would think you would have: Employees Evaluators Locations and Supervisors Assuming: Each Employee has one supervisor, then the Employee table has a Foreign Key SupID Each Employee has one location, then the Employee table has a FK LocID Each Employee has one Evaluator, then the Employee table has a FK EvID You haven't really expressed the relationships of all the objects. Do Evaluators have locations? Do supervisors have locations? Only one? If only one then an ID field directly in the Evaluator table to relate the Evaluator to the location. If more than one, then a M-M table relating the evaluator to many locations. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hollis,Virginia Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 9:58 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: [AccessD] Table for Emp, Location, etc On setting up a tables for employees, evaluators, their locations and supervisors. Is it better to create a table for each (location, employee, supervisor, evaluator) then in each table have the locationID, supervisorID, etc. Or is it better to have each table & join it together in one table with only the key fields, EmpID, SupervisorID, LocationID, EvaluatorID? Virginia From reische at mdh.org Thu Apr 3 09:21:11 2003 From: reische at mdh.org (Reische, Brenda L.) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 09:21:11 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Scroll bar on detail section only of continuous forms Message-ID: <0FFC98AA5943D211A2E90000F87A5B48C86C87@NEWMAN_EXC> I have had to change my listbox to a continuous form. I liked the listbox because I could have a scroll bar for that control and it was quite easy for the user to understand that it scrolled the 'detail' of the form. I have a fairly good sized header & footer, and with the detail now being a continuous form, I don't like the look of the scroll bar spanning the entire height of the form - I think it's easy to miss the fact that it's there to scroll the detail records. I want to know if there's an easy way to make a scroll bar to span only the detail area. I tried placing a control there, but it puts a mini-scroll bar on each detail record. Help! Please and thanks in advance... Brenda Reische Application Support Analyst McDonough District Hospital -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com Thu Apr 3 09:34:24 2003 From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 09:34:24 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Table for Emp, Location, etc Message-ID: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A08ECB11F@exchange.pgdp> Each employee has one supervisor, one location, one evaluator, one workstation Each evaluator has one location, one supervisor, and evaluates many employees >An Evaluator be an Employee or Supervisor? Possible - but very rare -----Original Message----- From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 9:10 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Table for Emp, Location, etc That depends on whether an object can have more than one Location, Supervisor etc. Your second solution allows as many combinations as you need. The first allows each to have one. I would think you would have: Employees Evaluators Locations and Supervisors Assuming: Each Employee has one supervisor, then the Employee table has a Foreign Key SupID Each Employee has one location, then the Employee table has a FK LocID Each Employee has one Evaluator, then the Employee table has a FK EvID You haven't really expressed the relationships of all the objects. Do Evaluators have locations? Do supervisors have locations? Only one? If only one then an ID field directly in the Evaluator table to relate the Evaluator to the location. If more than one, then a M-M table relating the evaluator to many locations. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hollis,Virginia Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 9:58 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: [AccessD] Table for Emp, Location, etc On setting up a tables for employees, evaluators, their locations and supervisors. Is it better to create a table for each (location, employee, supervisor, evaluator) then in each table have the locationID, supervisorID, etc. Or is it better to have each table & join it together in one table with only the key fields, EmpID, SupervisorID, LocationID, EvaluatorID? Virginia _____ Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Marcus, Scott > (GEAE, RHI Consulting) > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 11:52 AM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > I was thinking more along the lines of JC being Obi-Wan and Drew being Anakin. > > There is a whole story there if you think about it... > > Scott > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 8:53 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > Scott, > > They seem to trade places depending on the subject of the debate. > And in some debates, they seem to represent two different > versions of the Dark Side. > > Charles Wortz > Software Development Division > Texas Education Agency > 1701 N. Congress Ave > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > 512-463-9493 > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting) > [mailto:scott.marcus at ae.ge.com] > Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 02 05:39 > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > I just wanna know who is the father(Vader) and who is the son(Luke). > > -----Original Message----- > From: David McAfee [mailto:DMcAfee at haascnc.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:13 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > or Millie & Vanillie :P > > or Drew & Mimi :) > > or Simon & Paula ;) > > nah... Luke and Vader... I like that > > -----Original Message----- > From: Drew Wutka > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 4:34 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > JC, what in the world did we do, that has the list thinking we're Vader > and Skywalker, or Robert E. Lee and Ulysses S. Grant? > > > > Drew > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. > Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com << File: ATT01892.txt >> From sgsax at ksu.edu Thu Apr 3 09:41:03 2003 From: sgsax at ksu.edu (Seth Galitzer) Date: 03 Apr 2003 09:41:03 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Scroll bar on detail section only of continuous forms In-Reply-To: <0FFC98AA5943D211A2E90000F87A5B48C86C87@NEWMAN_EXC> References: <0FFC98AA5943D211A2E90000F87A5B48C86C87@NEWMAN_EXC> Message-ID: <1049384463.25518.95.camel@sgsax-th4022c> Brenda, Break out the details and put them into a continuous subform. That way, only the data in your subform will scroll, and the rest of the data will be stationary. Seth On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 09:21, Reische, Brenda L. wrote: > I have had to change my listbox to a continuous form. I liked the listbox > because I could have a scroll bar for that control and it was quite easy for > the user to understand that it scrolled the 'detail' of the form. I have a > fairly good sized header & footer, and with the detail now being a > continuous form, I don't like the look of the scroll bar spanning the entire > height of the form - I think it's easy to miss the fact that it's there to > scroll the detail records. I want to know if there's an easy way to make a > scroll bar to span only the detail area. I tried placing a control there, > but it puts a mini-scroll bar on each detail record. > > > > Help! Please and thanks in advance... > > > > > > Brenda Reische > > Application Support Analyst > > McDonough District Hospital > -- Seth Galitzer sgsax at ksu.edu Computing Specialist http://puma.agron.ksu.edu/~sgsax Dept. of Plant Pathology Kansas State University From sgsax at ksu.edu Thu Apr 3 09:43:47 2003 From: sgsax at ksu.edu (Seth Galitzer) Date: 03 Apr 2003 09:43:47 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Indexing a Memo Field. In-Reply-To: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D8256E@main2.marlow.com> References: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D8256E@main2.marlow.com> Message-ID: <1049384627.25495.100.camel@sgsax-th4022c> Drew, As I understand it, a memo field is different from a text field. It is my understanding that a memo field is really nothing more than a pointer, kind of like an OLE field. The text within a memo field is not stored directly in the table, but in its own storage area that the field points to. So when you are indexing a memo field, all you are really doing is indexing the pointers, not the data. I'm guessing that the Access dev team decided to add it as an index option more for completeness, rather than any practical purpose. It should be noted that "big-iron" database servers do allow you to index text (and memo fields, whatever they may be called) fields on their full contents. This adds significant size to your indexes, but makes for very fast searching on these fields. Seth On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 00:11, Drew Wutka wrote: > I then tested the speed of searching. Doing a search for *Drew* in the 97's > memo field (on an old copy of the Archive database), took about 10 to 11 > seconds to display all of the records. I converted that database to A2k > (and set Unicode compression...which was already set), and the same query > took about 22 seconds. (Go A2k!!! ). I then set the Index for the > memo field in A2k. No speed increase. Also, when I set that index, it took > about 5 seconds for Access to 'create' the index. So I immediately knew it > wasn't indexing everything within the memo field. I then modified my query > to search for Drew*. In 97 that took about 4 to 5 seconds. In A2k, it took > about the same amount of time. With the index 'on' in A2k, it seemed to > take a second or two longer.....now that I found VERY odd. > > So my question is, why in the world does A2k (and later versions) even give > you the option to 'index' a memo field. It does seem to actually do > anything?!?! > > Drew -- Seth Galitzer sgsax at ksu.edu Computing Specialist http://puma.agron.ksu.edu/~sgsax Dept. of Plant Pathology Kansas State University From scott.marcus at ae.ge.com Thu Apr 3 09:42:51 2003 From: scott.marcus at ae.ge.com (Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting)) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 10:42:51 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] VBE Message-ID: <768A0EA6FF8CB34FA522978966E5D52E559D5C@bwam02msx.ae.ge.com> Drew, You better watch out before he hacks you up and you have to wear that mask and "become more machine than man". Just remember that later on you strike him down at the price of him becomming more powerful than you can ever imagine. ;=) Scott -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 2:42 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE Ya, and Obi-Wan wasn't very bright (he was the first Jedi to get caught by the bad guys......) Drew May the force be with you. > -----Original Message----- > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 1:23 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > ROTFLMAO. > > Have you seen Anakin in the last star wars movies. A bit of a brat. Very > apropos! > > ;-) > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Marcus, Scott > (GEAE, RHI Consulting) > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 11:52 AM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > I was thinking more along the lines of JC being Obi-Wan and Drew being > Anakin. > > There is a whole story there if you think about it... > > Scott > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 8:53 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > Scott, > > They seem to trade places depending on the subject of the debate. > And in some debates, they seem to represent two different > versions of the Dark Side. > > Charles Wortz > Software Development Division > Texas Education Agency > 1701 N. Congress Ave > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > 512-463-9493 > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting) > [mailto:scott.marcus at ae.ge.com] > Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 02 05:39 > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > I just wanna know who is the father(Vader) and who is the son(Luke). > > -----Original Message----- > From: David McAfee [mailto:DMcAfee at haascnc.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:13 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > or Millie & Vanillie :P > > or Drew & Mimi :) > > or Simon & Paula ;) > > nah... Luke and Vader... I like that > > -----Original Message----- > From: Drew Wutka > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 4:34 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > JC, what in the world did we do, that has the list thinking we're Vader > and Skywalker, or Robert E. Lee and Ulysses S. Grant? > > > > Drew > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. > Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com << File: ATT03693.txt >> _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Thu Apr 3 09:45:51 2003 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 17:45:51 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2031676087.20030403174551@cactus.dk> Hi Jim I could live with that. /gustav > FWIW their doing the same thing with VFP 8.0, but not quite as > restrictive. You must develop on Win 2000 and up, but it can run on > anything back to Win 95. From reische at mdh.org Thu Apr 3 09:46:07 2003 From: reische at mdh.org (Reische, Brenda L.) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 09:46:07 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Scroll bar on detail section only of continuous for ms Message-ID: <0FFC98AA5943D211A2E90000F87A5B48C86C88@NEWMAN_EXC> That's what I was just doing !!! :-) My only issue with that is that I have to recode the whole &*#(# thing again, because the syntax for all the sorting and filtering will be changed. I have started that though. Sigh. Wish I could make up my mind!!!! Thanks for the quick answer! Brenda -----Original Message----- From: Seth Galitzer [mailto:sgsax at ksu.edu] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 9:41 AM To: accessd Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll bar on detail section only of continuous forms Brenda, Break out the details and put them into a continuous subform. That way, only the data in your subform will scroll, and the rest of the data will be stationary. Seth On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 09:21, Reische, Brenda L. wrote: > I have had to change my listbox to a continuous form. I liked the listbox > because I could have a scroll bar for that control and it was quite easy for > the user to understand that it scrolled the 'detail' of the form. I have a > fairly good sized header & footer, and with the detail now being a > continuous form, I don't like the look of the scroll bar spanning the entire > height of the form - I think it's easy to miss the fact that it's there to > scroll the detail records. I want to know if there's an easy way to make a > scroll bar to span only the detail area. I tried placing a control there, > but it puts a mini-scroll bar on each detail record. > > > > Help! Please and thanks in advance... > > > > > > Brenda Reische > > Application Support Analyst > > McDonough District Hospital > -- Seth Galitzer sgsax at ksu.edu Computing Specialist http://puma.agron.ksu.edu/~sgsax Dept. of Plant Pathology Kansas State University _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From prosoft6 at hotmail.com Thu Apr 3 09:55:07 2003 From: prosoft6 at hotmail.com (Julie Reardon-Taylor) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 10:55:07 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Reference a textbox on a tab control Message-ID: Hi, I'm trying to reference the contents of a textbox on the first tab of a tab control on a form. Can't seem to get the syntax right. Can someone help me? Julie Reardon-Taylor PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC. www.pro-soft.net _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From prosoft6 at hotmail.com Thu Apr 3 09:58:20 2003 From: prosoft6 at hotmail.com (Julie Reardon-Taylor) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 10:58:20 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Importing a FoxPro table into Access Message-ID: A friend was using Access 97 and has since upgraded to Access 2000. Their medical software was written in FoxPro. Some of the data in FoxPro was being imported into the Access 97 database and being used to send patient letters, postcards, etc. Worked great. Now that they have upgraded to Access 2000, they are no longer able to import the data. Is there a different way to do this in A2000? They had simply set up a macro. Julie Reardon-Taylor PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC. www.pro-soft.net _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From gustav at cactus.dk Thu Apr 3 10:01:22 2003 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 18:01:22 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Permission denied In-Reply-To: <002701c2f9f3$e182f3a0$6501a8c0@HAL9002> References: <3E8C5752.23390.1776A94@localhost> <002701c2f9f3$e182f3a0$6501a8c0@HAL9002> Message-ID: <12832607146.20030403180122@cactus.dk> Hi Rocky > How do I close the connections? By closing any database objects, recordsets and forms and controls bound to the BE. I've found that the easiest and most secure way to check if this is the case is to try to open the BE exclusively. If this succeeds you're safe. What I do is then to compact the BE to a new file which will be your copy. As you have opened the BE exclusively this is safe as no other can open the BE while compacting/copying (which can take a long time for a large database) is taking place. /gustav >> > I get Error 70: Permission Denied when I try to execute: >> > >> > FileCopy gstrDatabaseName, varFileName >> > >> > where gstrDatabaseName contains the full valid path of the current back >> > end and varFileName contains the full path and file name of the target. >> > What am I doing wrong? >> > >> > I'm trying to give the user a way to make a backup copy of their >> > database. Is there a better way? From sgsax at ksu.edu Thu Apr 3 10:09:40 2003 From: sgsax at ksu.edu (Seth Galitzer) Date: 03 Apr 2003 10:09:40 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Importing a FoxPro table into Access In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1049386181.25518.116.camel@sgsax-th4022c> Julie, When they installed Access, did they install the import filters for FP? Have them re-run Office2000 setup and check. Seth On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 09:58, Julie Reardon-Taylor wrote: > A friend was using Access 97 and has since upgraded to Access 2000. Their > medical software was written in FoxPro. Some of the data in FoxPro was > being imported into the Access 97 database and being used to send patient > letters, postcards, etc. Worked great. Now that they have upgraded to > Access 2000, they are no longer able to import the data. Is there a > different way to do this in A2000? They had simply set up a macro. > > > > Julie Reardon-Taylor > PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC. > www.pro-soft.net > -- Seth Galitzer sgsax at ksu.edu Computing Specialist http://puma.agron.ksu.edu/~sgsax Dept. of Plant Pathology Kansas State University From bchacc at san.rr.com Thu Apr 3 10:10:55 2003 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 08:10:55 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Permission denied References: <3E8C5752.23390.1776A94@localhost> <002701c2f9f3$e182f3a0$6501a8c0@HAL9002> <12832607146.20030403180122@cactus.dk> Message-ID: <008701c2f9fb$9b2cd7b0$6501a8c0@HAL9002> Gustav: There must be something connected to the BE that I'm not aware of. The form which is doing the backup is not bound to the BE (form has no record source). There are no recordsets open. Is there a way to determine where the connection might be? TIA, Rocky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Permission denied > Hi Rocky > > > How do I close the connections? > > By closing any database objects, recordsets and forms and controls > bound to the BE. > > I've found that the easiest and most secure way to check if this is > the case is to try to open the BE exclusively. If this succeeds you're > safe. What I do is then to compact the BE to a new file which will be > your copy. As you have opened the BE exclusively this is safe as no > other can open the BE while compacting/copying (which can take a long > time for a large database) is taking place. > > /gustav > > > >> > I get Error 70: Permission Denied when I try to execute: > >> > > >> > FileCopy gstrDatabaseName, varFileName > >> > > >> > where gstrDatabaseName contains the full valid path of the current back > >> > end and varFileName contains the full path and file name of the target. > >> > What am I doing wrong? > >> > > >> > I'm trying to give the user a way to make a backup copy of their > >> > database. Is there a better way? > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From sgsax at ksu.edu Thu Apr 3 10:13:33 2003 From: sgsax at ksu.edu (Seth Galitzer) Date: 03 Apr 2003 10:13:33 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Reference a textbox on a tab control In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1049386414.25518.124.camel@sgsax-th4022c> Julie, A tab control has a Pages collection. Each tab is a Page in that collection. So to reference a textbox on the first tab you need something like this: strText = Me!tabMyTabControl.Pages(0).txtMyText Note: I'm spewing this off the cuff and may not be entirely accurate. I don't remember if the Pages collection uses a 0- or 1-based index, and you may need to reference the Page's Controls collection to get to the textbox. Good luck! Seth On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 09:55, Julie Reardon-Taylor wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm trying to reference the contents of a textbox on the first tab of a tab > control on a form. Can't seem to get the syntax right. Can someone help me? > > > Julie Reardon-Taylor > PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC. > www.pro-soft.net > -- Seth Galitzer sgsax at ksu.edu Computing Specialist http://puma.agron.ksu.edu/~sgsax Dept. of Plant Pathology Kansas State University From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Thu Apr 3 10:12:38 2003 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 11:12:38 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Reference a textbox on a tab control Message-ID: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF403897519@xlivmbx12.aig.com> Just reference the textbox. The tab control takes no part at all in the syntax. Just as your code cares not if a control is on the footer, header or detail section of the form, it also does not care about tab controls. Lambert > -----Original Message----- > From: Julie Reardon-Taylor [SMTP:prosoft6 at hotmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:55 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Reference a textbox on a tab control > > > Hi, > > I'm trying to reference the contents of a textbox on the first tab of a > tab > control on a form. Can't seem to get the syntax right. Can someone help > me? > > > Julie Reardon-Taylor > PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC. > www.pro-soft.net > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Thu Apr 3 10:13:38 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 10:13:38 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Importing a FoxPro table into Access Message-ID: Julie, With each upgrade of a M$ product they tend to drop support of old file formats. Your version of FoxPro may be one of those dropped from support from A97 to A2K. If that is the case, then you may have to export the data from FoxPro to a format that is common to both that version of FP and A2K, such as comma delimited text, and then import that intermediate file. If you tell us what version of FP, I am sure somebody on this list will be able to verify whether that file version is still supported by A2K or not. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Julie Reardon-Taylor [mailto:prosoft6 at hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday 2003 Apr 03 09:58 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Importing a FoxPro table into Access A friend was using Access 97 and has since upgraded to Access 2000. Their medical software was written in FoxPro. Some of the data in FoxPro was being imported into the Access 97 database and being used to send patient letters, postcards, etc. Worked great. Now that they have upgraded to Access 2000, they are no longer able to import the data. Is there a different way to do this in A2000? They had simply set up a macro. Julie Reardon-Taylor PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC. www.pro-soft.net From j.frederick at att.net Thu Apr 3 10:24:05 2003 From: j.frederick at att.net (John Frederick) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 11:24:05 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Reference a textbox on a tab control In-Reply-To: Message-ID: My understanding is that the text controls on a tab are always in both the tab's controls collection and the form's control collection. therefore, you can reference it in the usual way: Me!txtName. I don't recall ever succeeding in getting the syntax including the tab control correct. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Julie Reardon-Taylor Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:55 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Reference a textbox on a tab control Hi, I'm trying to reference the contents of a textbox on the first tab of a tab control on a form. Can't seem to get the syntax right. Can someone help me? Julie Reardon-Taylor PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC. www.pro-soft.net _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mastercafe at ctv.es Thu Apr 3 10:18:47 2003 From: mastercafe at ctv.es (MastercafeCTV) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 18:18:47 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] How detect a missing Reference in VB6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: How detect when a user install the main application but loose some libraries or ActiveX or OCX or DLL?? Ate this moment we found that all main VbA2k code don't run, and lock the application, because can't compile the modules. Thanks for your help Juan Menendez Mastercafe SL _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From scott.marcus at ae.ge.com Thu Apr 3 10:24:48 2003 From: scott.marcus at ae.ge.com (Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting)) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 11:24:48 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Permission denied Message-ID: <768A0EA6FF8CB34FA522978966E5D52E559D5D@bwam02msx.ae.ge.com> Rocky, You don't have a global recordset variable do you? Just checking.... Scott -----Original Message----- From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 11:11 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Permission denied Gustav: There must be something connected to the BE that I'm not aware of. The form which is doing the backup is not bound to the BE (form has no record source). There are no recordsets open. Is there a way to determine where the connection might be? TIA, Rocky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Permission denied > Hi Rocky > > > How do I close the connections? > > By closing any database objects, recordsets and forms and controls > bound to the BE. > > I've found that the easiest and most secure way to check if this is > the case is to try to open the BE exclusively. If this succeeds you're > safe. What I do is then to compact the BE to a new file which will be > your copy. As you have opened the BE exclusively this is safe as no > other can open the BE while compacting/copying (which can take a long > time for a large database) is taking place. > > /gustav > > > >> > I get Error 70: Permission Denied when I try to execute: > >> > > >> > FileCopy gstrDatabaseName, varFileName > >> > > >> > where gstrDatabaseName contains the full valid path of the current back > >> > end and varFileName contains the full path and file name of the target. > >> > What am I doing wrong? > >> > > >> > I'm trying to give the user a way to make a backup copy of their > >> > database. Is there a better way? > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Thu Apr 3 10:30:34 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 08:30:34 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Reference a textbox on a tab control Message-ID: You don't need to reference the tab page at all. It is an optical illusion that shows or hides controls as the value of the tab control changes. You can just reference the control as a member of the form's controls collection. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Seth Galitzer [mailto:sgsax at ksu.edu] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 8:14 AM To: accessd Subject: Re: [AccessD] Reference a textbox on a tab control Julie, A tab control has a Pages collection. Each tab is a Page in that collection. So to reference a textbox on the first tab you need something like this: strText = Me!tabMyTabControl.Pages(0).txtMyText Note: I'm spewing this off the cuff and may not be entirely accurate. I don't remember if the Pages collection uses a 0- or 1-based index, and you may need to reference the Page's Controls collection to get to the textbox. Good luck! Seth On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 09:55, Julie Reardon-Taylor wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm trying to reference the contents of a textbox on the first tab of > a tab > control on a form. Can't seem to get the syntax right. Can someone help me? > > > Julie Reardon-Taylor > PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC. > www.pro-soft.net > -- Seth Galitzer sgsax at ksu.edu Computing Specialist http://puma.agron.ksu.edu/~sgsax Dept. of Plant Pathology Kansas State University _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Thu Apr 3 10:37:56 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 08:37:56 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Indexing a Memo Field. Message-ID: I wonder if it's only applying the indexing on the first 255 chars of the memo field? Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 10:12 PM To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: [AccessD] Indexing a Memo Field. Okay folks, I was chatting in email with Susan, and I brought up Indexing a Memo field. I don't know if everyone knows what an index really does, but essentially it is an internal 'table' within a database, that allows for faster searchs. How does that work? The best way I know of, to describe indexing is explaining something I did once for a Palm OS project. I had a phone list, where I wanted to be able to search by First Name, Last Name and Phone Number. The Palm app was exceptionally slow when trying to find a record within a table, so instead of letting the data control 'find' a record, I wrote an index routine. Essentially I duplicated the data table three times. One sorted by FirstName, one sorted by LastName, and one sorted by Extension/PhoneNumber. I create three seperate tables, which would be the 'indexes' for the three duplicates. Two of the 'index tables' were pretty much the same. (All three had the same structure). The two relating to first and last name had the first field as the 'letter' (which would be the first letter in the last or first name), the second field was the record position that was the start of that letter, and then the last field was a 'string' that contained the position of the next letter after the first. The Number table was similar, but it tracked the position of the numbers. Thus, when a user entered 'D', the code would jump to the fourth record in the index (since D is the fourth letter), then it would look at the second field and find that D started at position 50. So it would then jump to position 50 on the main table (which was sorted by first name), and beginning displaying the records starting with D. If the user entered R, after the D, then the code would again jump to the fourth record on the index table, get the starting position for the D's, then it would look in the last field, and determine where the R's started within the D's. Again, it now had the starting point for all first names starting with DR. Now, the AccessD archives are at roughly 140 megs (somewhere close to that). Doing a search on a subject field is pretty quick. So if you search the subject field for *test*, it pulls up almost instantaneously. However, if you do the same search on the memo field (which holds the body of the email), then it takes a while. What I built for the new archives (which are almost ready, I am just adding the capability to show a certain number at a time), what I did was create a VB program that 'indexes' the memo fields. It reads each memo field, splits it into the words that make up the message, then it puts each word and what message that word belongs to into a seperate table (in another database). So what I end up with is a table for each letter (a through z), and a table for non-letters. Thus 'Drew' is listed in IndexD.mdb, in tblWords, and the key for that record has records within tblWordsToMessages, which then have the key's to each record in the main database that has the word 'Drew' in it. Thus, when searching the archives with this new process, searching time is cut immensely since every word is indexed. I mentioned 'indexing' a memo field to Susan, and she replied that she 'could' index a memo field. That kind of shocked me, because I had spent several hours on my 'indexing' service. So I looked into this a bit. Access 97 does not let you do it at all. It doesn't give you an Index option in the field properties, no does it list the Memo Fields when you go to the 'indexes' window. A2k, however, also doesn't list Indexed as a property, but it does let you select Memo fields within the Indexes window. I then tested the speed of searching. Doing a search for *Drew* in the 97's memo field (on an old copy of the Archive database), took about 10 to 11 seconds to display all of the records. I converted that database to A2k (and set Unicode compression...which was already set), and the same query took about 22 seconds. (Go A2k!!! ). I then set the Index for the memo field in A2k. No speed increase. Also, when I set that index, it took about 5 seconds for Access to 'create' the index. So I immediately knew it wasn't indexing everything within the memo field. I then modified my query to search for Drew*. In 97 that took about 4 to 5 seconds. In A2k, it took about the same amount of time. With the index 'on' in A2k, it seemed to take a second or two longer.....now that I found VERY odd. So my question is, why in the world does A2k (and later versions) even give you the option to 'index' a memo field. It does seem to actually do anything?!?! Drew _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From sgsax at ksu.edu Thu Apr 3 10:48:52 2003 From: sgsax at ksu.edu (Seth Galitzer) Date: 03 Apr 2003 10:48:52 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Reference a textbox on a tab control In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1049388533.25495.148.camel@sgsax-th4022c> Charlotte, I did say it was off the cuff. :) Next time, I promise to research my solutions before opening my big, fat mouth. Seth On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 10:30, Charlotte Foust wrote: > You don't need to reference the tab page at all. It is an optical > illusion that shows or hides controls as the value of the tab control > changes. You can just reference the control as a member of the form's > controls collection. > > Charlotte Foust > -- Seth Galitzer sgsax at ksu.edu Computing Specialist http://puma.agron.ksu.edu/~sgsax Dept. of Plant Pathology Kansas State University From bchacc at san.rr.com Thu Apr 3 10:49:55 2003 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 08:49:55 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Permission denied References: <768A0EA6FF8CB34FA522978966E5D52E559D5D@bwam02msx.ae.ge.com> Message-ID: <008f01c2fa01$0e82a730$6501a8c0@HAL9002> Nope. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting)" To: Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 8:24 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permission denied > Rocky, > > You don't have a global recordset variable do you? Just checking.... > > Scott > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 11:11 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Permission denied > > > Gustav: > > There must be something connected to the BE that I'm not aware of. The form > which is doing the backup is not bound to the BE (form has no record > source). There are no recordsets open. Is there a way to determine where > the connection might be? > > TIA, > > Rocky > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gustav Brock" > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 8:01 AM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Permission denied > > > > Hi Rocky > > > > > How do I close the connections? > > > > By closing any database objects, recordsets and forms and controls > > bound to the BE. > > > > I've found that the easiest and most secure way to check if this is > > the case is to try to open the BE exclusively. If this succeeds you're > > safe. What I do is then to compact the BE to a new file which will be > > your copy. As you have opened the BE exclusively this is safe as no > > other can open the BE while compacting/copying (which can take a long > > time for a large database) is taking place. > > > > /gustav > > > > > > >> > I get Error 70: Permission Denied when I try to execute: > > >> > > > >> > FileCopy gstrDatabaseName, varFileName > > >> > > > >> > where gstrDatabaseName contains the full valid path of the current > back > > >> > end and varFileName contains the full path and file name of the > target. > > >> > What am I doing wrong? > > >> > > > >> > I'm trying to give the user a way to make a backup copy of their > > >> > database. Is there a better way? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us Thu Apr 3 10:52:31 2003 From: Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us (Gowey Mike W) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 09:52:31 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Retrieving a Record Field Message-ID: <05EBB8A3BEB95B4F8216BE4EF486077801074F@srciml1.ds.doc.state.or.us> Hi Everyone, I have a a need to pull a field from a record in a database when the field name is listed in another Field. What I am doing is I have a flat file that is imported into an Oracle database and it is run through a filter that checks the validity of certain fields in each record. If the record does not pass the filter the record is put into a temp table and the field name that has the error in it is put in a new field. I need to be able to display the field with the error on a form when the record is brought up. This will allow the end user to fix the record. Is this possible??? Thanks, Mike Gowey, MCP Technical Support Analyst SRCI ISSD Team Leader From mitsules_ms at nns.com Thu Apr 3 10:57:26 2003 From: mitsules_ms at nns.com (Mitsules, Mark) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 11:57:26 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Indexing a Memo Field. Message-ID: According to the help file: "Note You can't index Memo, Hyperlink, or OLE Object data type fields." Therefore, I would tend to agree with Seth that the option to set an index was "...more for completeness, rather than any practical purpose.". ...or, they just forgot to disable the index control when dealing with memo fields. Mark -----Original Message----- From: Seth Galitzer [mailto:sgsax at ksu.edu] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:44 AM To: accessd Subject: Re: [AccessD] Indexing a Memo Field. Drew, As I understand it, a memo field is different from a text field. It is my understanding that a memo field is really nothing more than a pointer, kind of like an OLE field. The text within a memo field is not stored directly in the table, but in its own storage area that the field points to. So when you are indexing a memo field, all you are really doing is indexing the pointers, not the data. I'm guessing that the Access dev team decided to add it as an index option more for completeness, rather than any practical purpose. It should be noted that "big-iron" database servers do allow you to index text (and memo fields, whatever they may be called) fields on their full contents. This adds significant size to your indexes, but makes for very fast searching on these fields. Seth On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 00:11, Drew Wutka wrote: > I then tested the speed of searching. Doing a search for *Drew* in > the 97's memo field (on an old copy of the Archive database), took > about 10 to 11 seconds to display all of the records. I converted > that database to A2k (and set Unicode compression...which was already > set), and the same query took about 22 seconds. (Go A2k!!! ). > I then set the Index for the memo field in A2k. No speed increase. > Also, when I set that index, it took about 5 seconds for Access to > 'create' the index. So I immediately knew it wasn't indexing > everything within the memo field. I then modified my query to search > for Drew*. In 97 that took about 4 to 5 seconds. In A2k, it took > about the same amount of time. With the index 'on' in A2k, it seemed > to take a second or two longer.....now that I found VERY odd. > > So my question is, why in the world does A2k (and later versions) even > give you the option to 'index' a memo field. It does seem to actually > do anything?!?! > > Drew -- Seth Galitzer sgsax at ksu.edu Computing Specialist http://puma.agron.ksu.edu/~sgsax Dept. of Plant Pathology Kansas State University _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Thu Apr 3 11:06:05 2003 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 19:06:05 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Permission denied In-Reply-To: <008701c2f9fb$9b2cd7b0$6501a8c0@HAL9002> References: <3E8C5752.23390.1776A94@localhost> <12832607146.20030403180122@cactus.dk> <008701c2f9fb$9b2cd7b0$6501a8c0@HAL9002> Message-ID: <11936489779.20030403190605@cactus.dk> Hi Rocky If you mean a smart way, I don't know. You may need to go the hard way (=debugging from launch ...). /gustav > There must be something connected to the BE that I'm not aware of. The form > which is doing the backup is not bound to the BE (form has no record > source). There are no recordsets open. Is there a way to determine where > the connection might be? From JRojas at tnco-inc.com Thu Apr 3 11:12:12 2003 From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 12:12:12 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] One-to-one relationships Message-ID: <806536912C472E4A9D6515DF2E57261E0C5971@mercury.tnco-inc.com> Hi All, I have four tables, one is the "main" table and the other three are category or type tables with a one-to-one relationship to the "main" table. I want to limit a record that is in the "main" table to exist in only one of the category tables with the flexibility of the record moving, if you will, from one category table to another. For example, if during the creation of a new record the user picks category1 from a combo box, he/she is presented with the fields that are found in the category1 table. If at a later point he/she decides to change the category to category2, the information from category1 would be removed and the user would fill in the information for category2. I have coded this before and everything worked out well, but what I was wondering is if the ability to limiting to one category table could be achieved using some form a relationship rules in Access. Or can this only be accomplished with coding? Thanks! Joe Rojas jrojas at tnco-inc.com This electronic transmission is strictly confidential to TNCO, Inc. and intended solely for the addressee. It may contain information which is covered by legal, professional, or other privileges. If you are not the intended addressee, or someone authorized by the intended addressee to receive transmissions on behalf of the addressee, you must not retain, disclose in any form, copy, or take any action in reliance on this transmission. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender as soon as possible and destroy this message. While TNCO, Inc. uses virus protection, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. TNCO, Inc. accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Thu Apr 3 11:35:23 2003 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 18:35:23 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Was VBE now Obi-Won-Bloody-Kenobi In-Reply-To: <768A0EA6FF8CB34FA522978966E5D52E559D5C@bwam02msx.ae.ge.com> Message-ID: <010f01c2fa07$67d62e00$b274d0d5@andypc> Enough already. Had hoped this had died a natural death, but it keeps popping back up and some members are not fans - neither of Star Wars nor this thread. So please no more. As has oft been said, we have an OT list. Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting) > Sent: 03 April 2003 16:43 > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > Drew, > > You better watch out before he hacks you up and you have to > wear that mask and "become more machine than man". Just > remember that later on you strike him down at the price of > him becomming more powerful than you can ever imagine. ;=) > > Scott > > -----Original Message----- > From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 2:42 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > Ya, and Obi-Wan wasn't very bright (he was the first Jedi to > get caught by the bad guys......) > > Drew > > May the force be with you. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 1:23 PM > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > > ROTFLMAO. > > > > Have you seen Anakin in the last star wars movies. A bit > of a brat. > > Very apropos! > > > > ;-) > > > > John W. Colby > > Colby Consulting > > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Marcus, > > Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting) > > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 11:52 AM > > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > > > > I was thinking more along the lines of JC being Obi-Wan and > Drew being > > Anakin. > > > > There is a whole story there if you think about it... > > > > Scott > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] > > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 8:53 AM > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > > > > Scott, > > > > They seem to trade places depending on the subject of the debate. > > And in some debates, they seem to represent two different > > versions of the Dark Side. > > > > Charles Wortz > > Software Development Division > > Texas Education Agency > > 1701 N. Congress Ave > > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > > 512-463-9493 > > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting) > > [mailto:scott.marcus at ae.ge.com] > > Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 02 05:39 > > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > > I just wanna know who is the father(Vader) and who is the son(Luke). > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: David McAfee [mailto:DMcAfee at haascnc.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:13 PM > > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > > > > or Millie & Vanillie :P > > > > or Drew & Mimi :) > > > > or Simon & Paula ;) > > > > nah... Luke and Vader... I like that > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Drew Wutka > > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 4:34 PM > > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBE > > > > > > JC, what in the world did we do, that has the list thinking we're > > Vader and Skywalker, or Robert E. Lee and Ulysses S. Grant? > > > > > > > > Drew > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. > > Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com << File: ATT03693.txt >> > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd > Website: > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd > Website: > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From bob at renaissancesiding.com Thu Apr 3 12:05:03 2003 From: bob at renaissancesiding.com (Bob Gajewski) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 13:05:03 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] One-to-one relationships Message-ID: <01C2F9E1.A522E300.bob@renaissancesiding.com> Joe Unless your "main" table only has three records - one for each category table - then I believe you have one-to-many relationships between the main table and each of the category tables. FYI. When you are in a form (?) and you select - for example - category 1, and the associated fields are displayed, where is this data stored? Do you have a fifth table that stores the child records, with the main table and the category table as foreign keys? Or is the main table already a foreign key in each of the category tables? In general, if you have enforced referential integrity for cascade-deletes, changing the category will automatically "remove" the child record that was created when you selected the original category. Regards, Bob Gajewski On Thursday, April 03, 2003 12:12 PM, Joe Rojas [SMTP:JRojas at tnco-inc.com] wrote: > Hi All, > > I have four tables, one is the "main" table and the other three are category > or type tables with a one-to-one relationship to the "main" table > > I want to limit a record that is in the "main" table to exist in only one of > the category tables with the flexibility of the record moving, if you will, > from one category table to another. For example, if during the creation of a > new record the user picks category1 from a combo box, he/she is presented > with the fields that are found in the category1 table. If at a later point > he/she decides to change the category to category2, the information from > category1 would be removed and the user would fill in the information for > category2 > > I have coded this before and everything worked out well, but what I was > wondering is if the ability to limiting to one category table could be > achieved using some form a relationship rules in Access. Or can this only be > accomplished with coding? > > Thanks! > > Joe Rojas > jrojas at tnco-inc.com > > > > > > This electronic transmission is strictly confidential to TNCO, Inc. and > intended solely for the addressee. It may contain information which is > covered by legal, professional, or other privileges. If you are not the > intended addressee, or someone authorized by the intended addressee to > receive transmissions on behalf of the addressee, you must not retain, > disclose in any form, copy, or take any action in reliance on this > transmission. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify > the sender as soon as possible and destroy this message. While TNCO, Inc > uses virus protection, the recipient should check this email and any > attachments for the presence of viruses. TNCO, Inc. accepts no liability for > any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From j.frederick at att.net Thu Apr 3 12:06:04 2003 From: j.frederick at att.net (John Frederick) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 13:06:04 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Hitting Upper Limit of 401 Characters in String Building Message-ID: I'm building big strings to populate what look like spreadsheet cells on a report. I wasn't sure how much data the client would be entering in the text fields that go into the strings, but I expected to run into a 255 or 256 chr limit. Apparently, the limit I'm hitting is 401. Do anyone know, off hand, why 401 is a magic number? My last recourse, I guess, is a temp table with a memo field. I know I can open a recordset on a memo field and append to it build up long strings. From bchacc at san.rr.com Thu Apr 3 12:07:56 2003 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 10:07:56 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Permission denied References: <3E8C5752.23390.1776A94@localhost> <12832607146.20030403180122@cactus.dk> <008701c2f9fb$9b2cd7b0$6501a8c0@HAL9002> <11936489779.20030403190605@cactus.dk> Message-ID: <00c601c2fa0b$f438e9b0$6501a8c0@HAL9002> Gustav: Got a solution from Jurgen using API and it works like a charm. So problem solved. For the moment. Thanks. Rocky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Permission denied > Hi Rocky > > If you mean a smart way, I don't know. > You may need to go the hard way (=debugging from launch ...). > > /gustav > > > > There must be something connected to the BE that I'm not aware of. The form > > which is doing the backup is not bound to the BE (form has no record > > source). There are no recordsets open. Is there a way to determine where > > the connection might be? > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From mitsules_ms at nns.com Thu Apr 3 12:23:28 2003 From: mitsules_ms at nns.com (Mitsules, Mark) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 13:23:28 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Hitting Upper Limit of 401 Characters in String Bui lding Message-ID: ...hmmm...no answer to a 401. Since you're dealing with a report, could the physical size of the control be the limitation? CanGrow? For a Report: Number of characters in a text box 65,535 For a Table: Number of characters in a Text field 255 Number of characters in a Memo field 65,535 when entering data through the user interface; 1 gigabyte of character storage when entering data programmatically Mark -----Original Message----- From: John Frederick [mailto:j.frederick at att.net] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 1:06 PM To: Access D Submissions Subject: [AccessD] Hitting Upper Limit of 401 Characters in String Building I'm building big strings to populate what look like spreadsheet cells on a report. I wasn't sure how much data the client would be entering in the text fields that go into the strings, but I expected to run into a 255 or 256 chr limit. Apparently, the limit I'm hitting is 401. Do anyone know, off hand, why 401 is a magic number? My last recourse, I guess, is a temp table with a memo field. I know I can open a recordset on a memo field and append to it build up long strings. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Apr 3 12:52:50 2003 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD)) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 10:52:50 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: John: Frankly, I have no idea. I just commented on what I found at the site. Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 5:35 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL > > OK, but how does KRUD relate to Susan's message? She said to go to a web > site. I went there looking for a review of something she wrote. Never > did find it. > > And of course the subject is "[AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL" so you have > to pardon my asking what krud has to do with the subject? > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence > (AccessD) > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 5:19 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL > > > KRUD: It is a LINUX version that boots off a CD...Great > implementation...full featured...got a copy of a friend, when I was down > in > LA, last Christmas. Only uses the booting computer to store a preference > file. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 1:11 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL > > > Hi Susan > > No, sorry, neither did I catch your point here ... > > /gustav > > > > I'm trying to figure out what you are referring to. > > > John W. Colby > > Colby Consulting > > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins > > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 6:20 PM > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL > > > > Kind of cool! ;) > > > Susan H. > > > >> Developer Central #16 (the issue is archived online at > >> http://mcpmag.com/newsletter/article.asp?EditorialsID=136 if you want > to > >> see what I said). > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. > Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com << File: ATT00112.txt >> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2828 bytes Desc: not available URL: From JSkolits at CorporateDataDesign.com Thu Apr 3 13:08:32 2003 From: JSkolits at CorporateDataDesign.com (John Skolits) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 14:08:32 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Importing Fox Pro Message-ID: Anyone have any info on Importing a Fox Pro database in Access? TIA John Skolits From papparuff at attbi.com Thu Apr 3 13:22:29 2003 From: papparuff at attbi.com (John Ruff) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 11:22:29 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Importing Fox Pro In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001f01c2fa16$5e57c4b0$6401a8c0@papparuff> You did not tell us which version of Access but here are urls that should help Access2K http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;225861 AccessXP http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;286224 John V. Ruff - The Eternal Optimist :-) Always Looking For Contract Opportunities www.noclassroom.com Live software training Right over the Internet Home: 253.588.2139 Cell: 253.307/2947 9306 Farwest Dr SW Lakewood, WA 98498 "Commit to the Lord whatever you do, and your plans will succeed." Proverbs 16:3 -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Skolits Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 11:09 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Importing Fox Pro Anyone have any info on Importing a Fox Pro database in Access? TIA John Skolits _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From j.frederick at att.net Thu Apr 3 13:32:53 2003 From: j.frederick at att.net (John Frederick) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 14:32:53 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Importing Fox Pro In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I just checked my Access 97. It has combo box lines for (*.dbf) and 3.0 (*.dbc). My Access 2000 does not offer FoxPro. When I installed, I intended to opt for everything selectable. If more conversions are available, I'd like to get them. Excel 2000 has a wider choice. It would be an extra manual step, but they could import to Excel manually and then use code to import to Access. Or, you might be able to use Automation to code the Excel step. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John Skolits Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 2:09 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Importing Fox Pro Anyone have any info on Importing a Fox Pro database in Access? TIA John Skolits _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From sgsax at ksu.edu Thu Apr 3 14:12:45 2003 From: sgsax at ksu.edu (Seth Galitzer) Date: 03 Apr 2003 14:12:45 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Importing Fox Pro In-Reply-To: <001f01c2fa16$5e57c4b0$6401a8c0@papparuff> References: <001f01c2fa16$5e57c4b0$6401a8c0@papparuff> Message-ID: <1049400766.25518.158.camel@sgsax-th4022c> OK, so I need to eat my words on my previous response to a similar question earlier today. If you read the KB articles listed below, you'll see the response is "there is no support for connecting to a FoxPro database directly via the Jet engine". So you can either create an ODBC connection for it and import via that, or if you still have a copy of A97, import it there and convert the A97 mdb to A2K. Sheesh. File this issue under the "load of crap". Thanks for nothin' MS. Seth On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 13:22, John Ruff wrote: > You did not tell us which version of Access but here are urls that should > help > > Access2K > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;225861 > > AccessXP > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;286224 > > John V. Ruff - The Eternal Optimist :-) > Always Looking For Contract Opportunities > > www.noclassroom.com > Live software training > Right over the Internet > > Home: 253.588.2139 > Cell: 253.307/2947 > 9306 Farwest Dr SW > Lakewood, WA 98498 > > "Commit to the Lord whatever you do, > and your plans will succeed." Proverbs 16:3 > -- Seth Galitzer sgsax at ksu.edu Computing Specialist http://puma.agron.ksu.edu/~sgsax Dept. of Plant Pathology Kansas State University From DWUTKA at marlow.com Thu Apr 3 14:40:22 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 14:40:22 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82575@main2.marlow.com> I think Access 11 is not going to run on anything older then 98...not 3.1. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 3:21 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Hi Susan As far as I know, Access 1.x and 2.0 are the only versions that run on Windows 3.1x. So that shock - moving from Win 3.1x to a Win32 platform - will only happen for those moving now from Access 2.0 and lower (running on Win 3.1x!) to Access 95 or higher. How many could that be?? Is any member of this list running Access 2.0/Win 3.1x exclusively? Please step forward. /gustav > Well, a shock for anyone still using Win 3.1 -- can't. You have to upgrade > Windows to use Access 11. > Susan H. >> Are you sure about Access 11? >> >> Quoting Mike Gunderloy, >> Developer Central #24: Office 2003 First Impressions and more! >> >> "Access has no significant changes from Access 2002. It's not an exciting >> time to be an Access developer. I'm revising one Access book for the new >> version, but don't expect to do much other work with it." >> >> /gustav >> >> >> > And what if it is? Think about it guys -- although some conversions are >> > more work than others, and certainly Access 11 is going to be a shock >> > (and Access 12 even more so) for a few still running older >> > versions on W 3.1, has >> > MS ever really just left you hanging? Well, maybe it has , I probably >> > shouldn't ask when I don't really know the answer. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Thu Apr 3 14:46:11 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 14:46:11 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] New Software releases Was: ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82576@main2.marlow.com> Are we going to bet on that....Access being accessorized? It probably won't be called Access anymore, but it will be a database system packaged with the OS. Think about it. Outlook Express comes with the OS, you also have Word and Notepad. You have VBScript. All of that is packaged with the current OS. I really think MS is going to end up moving away from the broad packages and wind up with specialty packages, like their CRM. I still don't get the 'increased' development time. I admit, hands down, that if the project is relatively 'simple' and straight forward, OR requires a lot of reporting, then Access is definitely faster...and the better choice. However, I can develop an FE in VB, just as fast as I can in Access, on more complex systems. ESPECIALLY if it is a system where I am building classes to handle the data structure and business rules. Also, any increases in development time are offset by the longevity of the end result. That's just my opinion, I could be wrong. Drew -----Original Message----- From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 5:27 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] New Software releases Was: ADP vs Access mdb/SQL "A new platform would probably have the entire Office Suite (and some) completely built into it's 'accessories'." Drew ...like there's a chance in hell of that happening ...the Office Suite makes one heck of a lot more money for MS than all of it's OS products put together ...no way it will ever be accessorized :))))) "I know that I'll probably get yelled at about this paragraph, but you have to admit, that is a BIG advantage." Drew ...no I don't ...I make a good bit of money off of MS product "upgrades" ...besides which, if I made VB my primary development environment, I'd have to triple my client's costs just to account for the increased development time it requires :))))) William Hindman What's the five-day forecast for Baghdad? Three days. From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com Thu Apr 3 14:46:59 2003 From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 14:46:59 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Review of tables Message-ID: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A08ECB132@exchange.pgdp> Would someone mind reviewing my table designs? I need someone to see if I am on the right track and if there are any issues I may have missed covering. I can send what I have offline, it is in A2K. Virginia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Thu Apr 3 14:56:38 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 12:56:38 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Retrieving a Record Field Message-ID: You can reference the particular control that contains the error something like this: Me("txt" & Me.txtErrorField).SetFocus I'm assuming that txtErrorField is the name of the control that holds the field name where the error occurred and that your control name has a txt prefix before the name of the bound field. If not, you would need to tweak this line appropriately. The idea is to use the name of the field in txtErrorField to index the form's controls collection. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Gowey Mike W [mailto:Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 8:53 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Retrieving a Record Field Hi Everyone, I have a a need to pull a field from a record in a database when the field name is listed in another Field. What I am doing is I have a flat file that is imported into an Oracle database and it is run through a filter that checks the validity of certain fields in each record. If the record does not pass the filter the record is put into a temp table and the field name that has the error in it is put in a new field. I need to be able to display the field with the error on a form when the record is brought up. This will allow the end user to fix the record. Is this possible??? Thanks, Mike Gowey, MCP Technical Support Analyst SRCI ISSD Team Leader _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From sgsax at ksu.edu Thu Apr 3 15:45:38 2003 From: sgsax at ksu.edu (Seth Galitzer) Date: 03 Apr 2003 15:45:38 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] New Software releases Was: ADP vs Access mdb/SQL In-Reply-To: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82576@main2.marlow.com> References: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82576@main2.marlow.com> Message-ID: <1049406338.25495.206.camel@sgsax-th4022c> Just a couple of comments... On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 14:46, Drew Wutka wrote: > Are we going to bet on that....Access being accessorized? It probably won't > be called Access anymore, but it will be a database system packaged with the > OS. Think about it. Outlook Express comes with the OS, you also have Word > and Notepad. You have VBScript. All of that is packaged with the current > OS. I really think MS is going to end up moving away from the broad > packages and wind up with specialty packages, like their CRM. The "top secret, imminently to-be-released" version of Windows (code-name: Longhorn) is said to include a radically new file system based on SQL server. MS has waffled on this point, but it's basically replacing the "traditional" filesystem with a database. Academically, it sounds interesting, but I think in practice it is going to be a whopper of a resource hog. Tech pundits say it will mean that any old software will simply not work on the new platform. No details on how close it is to final, or if and when it will be released, but it's in the pipeline. Having said that, I have to disagree with your prognistication. I think it was William who said earlier that Office is the cash cow for MS. I would tend to agree with that. I also think that including any major office app in the OS is unrealistic. MS already has a stranglehold on the market just by their de facto presence. Bundling the apps in the OS would shoot themselves in the foot, unless they were castrated versions of such apps (think: less features than Works). As far as your list of "already included apps" is concerned, none of those can really be considered "major" apps. OE is severly limited in its featureset, Notepad is "edit" for Windows, Wordpad is a proof-of-conept that you can write an app entirely using MFC if you really wanted to (the dev team just decided to throw it in there), and VBScript is no substitute for a "rich development language" (neither is JavaScript for that matter). If MS was going to include a database app along these lines to be bundled with the OS, I sure as heck wouldn't want to use it for real development. > > I still don't get the 'increased' development time. I admit, hands down, > that if the project is relatively 'simple' and straight forward, OR requires > a lot of reporting, then Access is definitely faster...and the better > choice. However, I can develop an FE in VB, just as fast as I can in > Access, on more complex systems. ESPECIALLY if it is a system where I am > building classes to handle the data structure and business rules. Also, any > increases in development time are offset by the longevity of the end result. > Drew, you also are a VB-turned-sometimes-Access developer. Most people on this list have gone the other way. There's a learning curve no matter which way you go on this path. Some are better at traveling it than others, but that's true for learning any new development environment. Not to mention the fact you _like_ unbound forms. :) (Please no holy wars this week, it was just a JOKE.) > That's just my opinion, I could be wrong. I won't hold it against you :) Seth -- Seth Galitzer sgsax at ksu.edu Computing Specialist http://puma.agron.ksu.edu/~sgsax Dept. of Plant Pathology Kansas State University From jimdettman at earthlink.net Thu Apr 3 16:08:08 2003 From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 17:08:08 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Indexing a Memo Field. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Charlotte, That would be my guess. I also think it is a bug. Jim Dettman President, Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc. (315) 699-3443 jimdettman at earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 11:38 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Indexing a Memo Field. I wonder if it's only applying the indexing on the first 255 chars of the memo field? Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 10:12 PM To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: [AccessD] Indexing a Memo Field. Okay folks, I was chatting in email with Susan, and I brought up Indexing a Memo field. I don't know if everyone knows what an index really does, but essentially it is an internal 'table' within a database, that allows for faster searchs. How does that work? The best way I know of, to describe indexing is explaining something I did once for a Palm OS project. I had a phone list, where I wanted to be able to search by First Name, Last Name and Phone Number. The Palm app was exceptionally slow when trying to find a record within a table, so instead of letting the data control 'find' a record, I wrote an index routine. Essentially I duplicated the data table three times. One sorted by FirstName, one sorted by LastName, and one sorted by Extension/PhoneNumber. I create three seperate tables, which would be the 'indexes' for the three duplicates. Two of the 'index tables' were pretty much the same. (All three had the same structure). The two relating to first and last name had the first field as the 'letter' (which would be the first letter in the last or first name), the second field was the record position that was the start of that letter, and then the last field was a 'string' that contained the position of the next letter after the first. The Number table was similar, but it tracked the position of the numbers. Thus, when a user entered 'D', the code would jump to the fourth record in the index (since D is the fourth letter), then it would look at the second field and find that D started at position 50. So it would then jump to position 50 on the main table (which was sorted by first name), and beginning displaying the records starting with D. If the user entered R, after the D, then the code would again jump to the fourth record on the index table, get the starting position for the D's, then it would look in the last field, and determine where the R's started within the D's. Again, it now had the starting point for all first names starting with DR. Now, the AccessD archives are at roughly 140 megs (somewhere close to that). Doing a search on a subject field is pretty quick. So if you search the subject field for *test*, it pulls up almost instantaneously. However, if you do the same search on the memo field (which holds the body of the email), then it takes a while. What I built for the new archives (which are almost ready, I am just adding the capability to show a certain number at a time), what I did was create a VB program that 'indexes' the memo fields. It reads each memo field, splits it into the words that make up the message, then it puts each word and what message that word belongs to into a seperate table (in another database). So what I end up with is a table for each letter (a through z), and a table for non-letters. Thus 'Drew' is listed in IndexD.mdb, in tblWords, and the key for that record has records within tblWordsToMessages, which then have the key's to each record in the main database that has the word 'Drew' in it. Thus, when searching the archives with this new process, searching time is cut immensely since every word is indexed. I mentioned 'indexing' a memo field to Susan, and she replied that she 'could' index a memo field. That kind of shocked me, because I had spent several hours on my 'indexing' service. So I looked into this a bit. Access 97 does not let you do it at all. It doesn't give you an Index option in the field properties, no does it list the Memo Fields when you go to the 'indexes' window. A2k, however, also doesn't list Indexed as a property, but it does let you select Memo fields within the Indexes window. I then tested the speed of searching. Doing a search for *Drew* in the 97's memo field (on an old copy of the Archive database), took about 10 to 11 seconds to display all of the records. I converted that database to A2k (and set Unicode compression...which was already set), and the same query took about 22 seconds. (Go A2k!!! ). I then set the Index for the memo field in A2k. No speed increase. Also, when I set that index, it took about 5 seconds for Access to 'create' the index. So I immediately knew it wasn't indexing everything within the memo field. I then modified my query to search for Drew*. In 97 that took about 4 to 5 seconds. In A2k, it took about the same amount of time. With the index 'on' in A2k, it seemed to take a second or two longer.....now that I found VERY odd. So my question is, why in the world does A2k (and later versions) even give you the option to 'index' a memo field. It does seem to actually do anything?!?! Drew _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jimdettman at earthlink.net Thu Apr 3 16:11:29 2003 From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 17:11:29 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Indexing a Memo Field. In-Reply-To: <1049384627.25495.100.camel@sgsax-th4022c> Message-ID: Seth, <> That's correct. Memo and OLE fields are stored on Long Value Pages (LVP). The "fixed" portion of the record contains a 16 byte pointer to the start of the chain (14 bytes for A97 and prior). The only exception to this is if the memo or OLE field is <30 bytes. If so, the Memo or OLE data is stored with the rest of the record. << So when you are indexing a memo field, all you are really doing is indexing the pointers, not the data.>> Could be or it could be the first 255 characters as Charlotte suggested. In either case, it doesn't sound worth while. Jim Dettman President, Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc. (315) 699-3443 jimdettman at earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Seth Galitzer Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:44 AM To: accessd Subject: Re: [AccessD] Indexing a Memo Field. Drew, As I understand it, a memo field is different from a text field. It is my understanding that a memo field is really nothing more than a pointer, kind of like an OLE field. The text within a memo field is not stored directly in the table, but in its own storage area that the field points to. So when you are indexing a memo field, all you are really doing is indexing the pointers, not the data. I'm guessing that the Access dev team decided to add it as an index option more for completeness, rather than any practical purpose. It should be noted that "big-iron" database servers do allow you to index text (and memo fields, whatever they may be called) fields on their full contents. This adds significant size to your indexes, but makes for very fast searching on these fields. Seth On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 00:11, Drew Wutka wrote: > I then tested the speed of searching. Doing a search for *Drew* in the 97's > memo field (on an old copy of the Archive database), took about 10 to 11 > seconds to display all of the records. I converted that database to A2k > (and set Unicode compression...which was already set), and the same query > took about 22 seconds. (Go A2k!!! ). I then set the Index for the > memo field in A2k. No speed increase. Also, when I set that index, it took > about 5 seconds for Access to 'create' the index. So I immediately knew it > wasn't indexing everything within the memo field. I then modified my query > to search for Drew*. In 97 that took about 4 to 5 seconds. In A2k, it took > about the same amount of time. With the index 'on' in A2k, it seemed to > take a second or two longer.....now that I found VERY odd. > > So my question is, why in the world does A2k (and later versions) even give > you the option to 'index' a memo field. It does seem to actually do > anything?!?! > > Drew -- Seth Galitzer sgsax at ksu.edu Computing Specialist http://puma.agron.ksu.edu/~sgsax Dept. of Plant Pathology Kansas State University _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mmmtbig at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 3 16:38:36 2003 From: mmmtbig at bellsouth.net (Myke Myers) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 17:38:36 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Reference a textbox on a tab control In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003b01c2fa31$c54acb70$6501a8c0@tbig3> You don't have to include the tab name in the reference. Forms!frmFormName.textbox -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Julie Reardon-Taylor Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:55 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Reference a textbox on a tab control Hi, I'm trying to reference the contents of a textbox on the first tab of a tab control on a form. Can't seem to get the syntax right. Can someone help me? Julie Reardon-Taylor PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC. www.pro-soft.net _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Thu Apr 3 16:53:24 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 16:53:24 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Indexing a Memo Field. Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82579@main2.marlow.com> I thought that too, however, when I did a search for Something*, I got a pretty quick return, and now speed increase on that same query when it was indexed. (actually seemed to run a hair slower). That means it may be just a goof, that let's you add a memo field to the list of indexes! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:38 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Indexing a Memo Field. I wonder if it's only applying the indexing on the first 255 chars of the memo field? Charlotte Foust From DWUTKA at marlow.com Thu Apr 3 16:57:38 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 16:57:38 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Retrieving a Record Field Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D8257A@main2.marlow.com> So let me get this straight. You need to display a form, that has 'two' fields at top, one is the name of the field that had an error, and the second is the value of the field. Right? (Do you need to display the rest of the data too?) Drew -----Original Message----- From: Gowey Mike W [mailto:Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:53 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Retrieving a Record Field Hi Everyone, I have a a need to pull a field from a record in a database when the field name is listed in another Field. What I am doing is I have a flat file that is imported into an Oracle database and it is run through a filter that checks the validity of certain fields in each record. If the record does not pass the filter the record is put into a temp table and the field name that has the error in it is put in a new field. I need to be able to display the field with the error on a form when the record is brought up. This will allow the end user to fix the record. Is this possible??? Thanks, Mike Gowey, MCP Technical Support Analyst SRCI ISSD Team Leader _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Thu Apr 3 16:58:31 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 16:58:31 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Indexing a Memo Field. Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D8257B@main2.marlow.com> I'd have to agree too. It's odd that 97 prevents it, but 2k doesn't. Wait, never mind, that's not odd, we're talking about A2k! -----Original Message----- From: Mitsules, Mark [mailto:mitsules_ms at nns.com] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:57 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Indexing a Memo Field. According to the help file: "Note You can't index Memo, Hyperlink, or OLE Object data type fields." Therefore, I would tend to agree with Seth that the option to set an index was "...more for completeness, rather than any practical purpose.". ...or, they just forgot to disable the index control when dealing with memo fields. Mark -----Original Message----- From: Seth Galitzer [mailto:sgsax at ksu.edu] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:44 AM To: accessd Subject: Re: [AccessD] Indexing a Memo Field. Drew, As I understand it, a memo field is different from a text field. It is my understanding that a memo field is really nothing more than a pointer, kind of like an OLE field. The text within a memo field is not stored directly in the table, but in its own storage area that the field points to. So when you are indexing a memo field, all you are really doing is indexing the pointers, not the data. I'm guessing that the Access dev team decided to add it as an index option more for completeness, rather than any practical purpose. It should be noted that "big-iron" database servers do allow you to index text (and memo fields, whatever they may be called) fields on their full contents. This adds significant size to your indexes, but makes for very fast searching on these fields. Seth On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 00:11, Drew Wutka wrote: > I then tested the speed of searching. Doing a search for *Drew* in > the 97's memo field (on an old copy of the Archive database), took > about 10 to 11 seconds to display all of the records. I converted > that database to A2k (and set Unicode compression...which was already > set), and the same query took about 22 seconds. (Go A2k!!! ). > I then set the Index for the memo field in A2k. No speed increase. > Also, when I set that index, it took about 5 seconds for Access to > 'create' the index. So I immediately knew it wasn't indexing > everything within the memo field. I then modified my query to search > for Drew*. In 97 that took about 4 to 5 seconds. In A2k, it took > about the same amount of time. With the index 'on' in A2k, it seemed > to take a second or two longer.....now that I found VERY odd. > > So my question is, why in the world does A2k (and later versions) even > give you the option to 'index' a memo field. It does seem to actually > do anything?!?! > > Drew -- Seth Galitzer sgsax at ksu.edu Computing Specialist http://puma.agron.ksu.edu/~sgsax Dept. of Plant Pathology Kansas State University _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Thu Apr 3 17:09:31 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 17:09:31 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] One-to-one relationships Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D8257C@main2.marlow.com> I don't think you can do that 'strictly' in Access, without code of some type. I built a similar db, which lists products of different types. There was a product table (which lists the name and ID of the product), there is a product type table, which lists the product type name and typeid, then there was a product type property table, which lists the properties for each type, and what type of data that property is. Then I had a table for each 'data type' (Text, currency, number, date). My code was setup as classes, that allowed the information for each product to be pulled up by using the data in the various tables. With that structure, ANY product could be stored, if it was a new 'type', you just added the properties for that type and off you go. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Joe Rojas [mailto:JRojas at tnco-inc.com] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 11:12 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: [AccessD] One-to-one relationships Hi All, I have four tables, one is the "main" table and the other three are category or type tables with a one-to-one relationship to the "main" table. I want to limit a record that is in the "main" table to exist in only one of the category tables with the flexibility of the record moving, if you will, from one category table to another. For example, if during the creation of a new record the user picks category1 from a combo box, he/she is presented with the fields that are found in the category1 table. If at a later point he/she decides to change the category to category2, the information from category1 would be removed and the user would fill in the information for category2. I have coded this before and everything worked out well, but what I was wondering is if the ability to limiting to one category table could be achieved using some form a relationship rules in Access. Or can this only be accomplished with coding? Thanks! Joe Rojas jrojas at tnco-inc.com This electronic transmission is strictly confidential to TNCO, Inc. and intended solely for the addressee. 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TNCO, Inc. accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Thu Apr 3 17:28:07 2003 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 09:28:07 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Table for Emp, Location, etc In-Reply-To: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A08ECB119@exchange.pgdp> Message-ID: <3E8D5027.885.2194BC@localhost> On 3 Apr 2003 at 8:57, Hollis,Virginia wrote: > On setting up a tables for employees, evaluators, their locations and > supervisors. Is it better to create a table for each (location, > employee, supervisor, evaluator) then in each table have the > locationID, supervisorID, etc. Or is it better to have each table & > join it together in one table with only the key fields, EmpID, > SupervisorID, LocationID, EvaluatorID? > Assuming that supervisors and evaluators are also employees who have their own supervisors and evaluators: Just one table for personnel - tblEmployees. Include in the fields of this table two FKs - SupervisorID and EvaluatorID Use these to point to other records in the same table. LocationID points to records in a separate Locations table. -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. From DWUTKA at marlow.com Thu Apr 3 17:28:38 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 17:28:38 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Review of tables Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D8257E@main2.marlow.com> I wouldn't mind. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Hollis,Virginia [mailto:HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 2:47 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Review of tables Would someone mind reviewing my table designs? I need someone to see if I am on the right track and if there are any issues I may have missed covering. I can send what I have offline, it is in A2K. Virginia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From harkins at iglou.com Thu Apr 3 17:13:29 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 18:13:29 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL References: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82575@main2.marlow.com> Message-ID: <016d01c2fa3a$010cd2e0$c8e6ffcc@SusanOne> Gustav, I think you might be surprised at the number of folks still running 2.0 or even 95. Did 95 run on 3.x? I'm too old to clutter up my head with details, but we tend to think of Access as a development tool and that leaves out a huge group -- tons and tons of single owner users that aren't all that concerned with upgrading and keeping current. We use to survey readers each time MS released and upgrade, and I'd say that about 25% of the group wouldn't upgrade -- and had no intentions of ever upgrading. I really can't say how well subscribers represented the Access owners at large though. It often took people a couple of years to upgrad and by then they were facing an even newer release. I think there are more 2.0 users out there than we might realize. Susan H. > I think Access 11 is not going to run on anything older then 98...not 3.1. > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 3:21 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL > > > Hi Susan > > As far as I know, Access 1.x and 2.0 are the only versions that run on > Windows 3.1x. So that shock - moving from Win 3.1x to a Win32 platform > - will only happen for those moving now from Access 2.0 and lower > (running on Win 3.1x!) to Access 95 or higher. > > How many could that be?? > Is any member of this list running Access 2.0/Win 3.1x exclusively? > Please step forward. > > /gustav > > > > Well, a shock for anyone still using Win 3.1 -- can't. You have to upgrade > > Windows to use Access 11. > > > Susan H. > > > >> Are you sure about Access 11? > >> > >> Quoting Mike Gunderloy, > >> Developer Central #24: Office 2003 First Impressions and more! > >> > >> "Access has no significant changes from Access 2002. It's not an exciting > >> time to be an Access developer. I'm revising one Access book for the new > >> version, but don't expect to do much other work with it." > >> > >> /gustav > >> > >> > >> > And what if it is? Think about it guys -- although some conversions > are > >> > more work than others, and certainly Access 11 is going to be a shock > >> > (and Access 12 even more so) for a few still running older > >> > versions on W 3.1, has > >> > MS ever really just left you hanging? Well, maybe it has , I > probably > >> > shouldn't ask when I don't really know the answer. > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From harkins at iglou.com Thu Apr 3 17:17:28 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 18:17:28 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL References: Message-ID: <016e01c2fa3a$02000c80$c8e6ffcc@SusanOne> Someone said they were giving away a bazillion copies of Alfalfa. ;) I just responded, cool -- I did not begin the thread. I left edited most of the text, left the url -- so shoot me! Geez... Susan H. > John: > > Frankly, I have no idea. I just commented on what I found at the site. > From DWUTKA at marlow.com Thu Apr 3 17:43:49 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 17:43:49 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] New Software releases Was: ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D8257F@main2.marlow.com> Comments on your comments (I'll snip my originals for space considerations) >The "top secret, imminently to-be-released" version of Windows >(code-name: Longhorn) is said to include a radically new file system >based on SQL server. MS has waffled on this point, but it's basically >replacing the "traditional" filesystem with a database. Academically, >it sounds interesting, but I think in practice it is going to be a >whopper of a resource hog. Tech pundits say it will mean that any old >software will simply not work on the new platform. No details on how >close it is to final, or if and when it will be released, but it's in >the pipeline. >Having said that, I have to disagree with your prognistication. I think >it was William who said earlier that Office is the cash cow for MS. I >would tend to agree with that. I also think that including any major >office app in the OS is unrealistic. MS already has a stranglehold on >the market just by their de facto presence. Bundling the apps in the OS >would shoot themselves in the foot, unless they were castrated versions >of such apps (think: less features than Works). As far as your list of >"already included apps" is concerned, none of those can really be >considered "major" apps. OE is severly limited in its featureset, >Notepad is "edit" for Windows, Wordpad is a proof-of-conept that you can >write an app entirely using MFC if you really wanted to (the dev team >just decided to throw it in there), and VBScript is no substitute for a >"rich development language" (neither is JavaScript for that matter). If >MS was going to include a database app along these lines to be bundled .with the OS, I sure as heck wouldn't want to use it for real >development. Actually, what you say in the first paragraph is exactly what I was predicting, and also exactly why I think Office, at least a portion of it, will be incorporated into the OS. Here's why. First of all, I don't think Office is MS's real cash cow. They really make a killing on Server products, especially on the licensing of those products. With Office, they are charging X amount of dollars for each package. With a server side product, they charge X amount of dollars for the package (which is usually higher then Office prices...except maybe developer edition), then they tack on X amount of dollars for licenses. Those licenses are more then likely MS's biggest cash cow. However, back to the Office Incorporation. Let's think about a 'futuristic' OS system, such as the SQL server based file system that you mentioned. Software built for the current generation OS is going to be completely imcompatible. (This is going to be a slight reverse, because with most OS 'upgrades', little 'older' software is unrunnable in the new OS, but most software built for the new OS is unrunnable in the previous OS. If the OS is drastically changed, all software is going to be incompatible, going backwards or forwards.). Thus, Microsoft would be forcing their customers to buy a completely new Office Suite....AND (more importantly), telling them that a straight convert is going to be pretty difficult. It makes more sense to tack more bucks onto the OS itself, include the Office suite, and then sell specialty add ins, like a developer's edition. >Drew, you also are a VB-turned-sometimes-Access developer. Most people >on this list have gone the other way. There's a learning curve no >matter which way you go on this path. Some are better at traveling it >than others, but that's true for learning any new development >environment. Not to mention the fact you _like_ unbound forms. :) >(Please no holy wars this week, it was just a JOKE.) Not true. I am an ACCESS developer turned VB/ASP. I started in Access, and still use Access, however, I LATER got into VB. It just so happened that a lot of what I was 'tasked' to develop were FAR easier in VB, so I tended to use VB more often then Access once I got into VB. I still make strictly Access stuff. Also, I personally think going Access to VB IS the best way to go. Why? Because in Access you get to learn two spectrums, database theory/practice, AND VB(A) coding. Moving to VB from Access, you are really just faced with learning a new GUI (and object model), much like going from Access 97 to Excel 97. Going from VB to Access, you may have the coding under your belt, but you now have not only the new 'environment', but also all of the tricks of the trade with working in a database. No point in going into the whole bound/unbound thing, obviously. >> That's just my opinion, I could be wrong. >I won't hold it against you :) Thanks...I'm glad you won't! Seth -- Seth Galitzer sgsax at ksu.edu Computing Specialist http://puma.agron.ksu.edu/~sgsax Dept. of Plant Pathology Kansas State University _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 3 17:44:05 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 18:44:05 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Table for Emp, Location, etc References: <3E8D5027.885.2194BC@localhost> Message-ID: <003601c2fa3a$ea1420b0$6101a8c0@amd2k512> ...employees will inevitably have more than one supervisor/evaluator over time and will themselves inevitably become supervisors or evaluators ...I'd create a separate employee relationships table with a EmpRelID, EmpRelType (Supv or Eval), DateFm, DateTo, SupEmpID (Superior Employee FK from tblEmployee.EmpID) and SubEmpID (subordinate Emp FK from tblEmployee.EmpID) ...this approach allows you to not only track the current relationships but answer such questions as who was his supervisor 2 years ago or how many current emps have ever been evaluated by john doe. William Hindman What's the five-day forecast for Baghdad? Three days. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart McLachlan" To: "Hollis,Virginia" ; Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Table for Emp, Location, etc > On 3 Apr 2003 at 8:57, Hollis,Virginia wrote: > > > On setting up a tables for employees, evaluators, their locations and > > supervisors. Is it better to create a table for each (location, > > employee, supervisor, evaluator) then in each table have the > > locationID, supervisorID, etc. Or is it better to have each table & > > join it together in one table with only the key fields, EmpID, > > SupervisorID, LocationID, EvaluatorID? > > > > Assuming that supervisors and evaluators are also employees who have their own > supervisors and evaluators: > > Just one table for personnel - tblEmployees. > Include in the fields of this table two FKs - SupervisorID and EvaluatorID > Use these to point to other records in the same table. > > LocationID points to records in a separate Locations table. > > > > -- > Lexacorp Ltd > http://www.lexacorp.com.pg > Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 3 17:45:12 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 18:45:12 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL References: <016e01c2fa3a$02000c80$c8e6ffcc@SusanOne> Message-ID: <003d01c2fa3b$11c0aed0$6101a8c0@amd2k512> ...bang!!!!! :)))) William Hindman What's the five-day forecast for Baghdad? Three days. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Harkins" To: Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL > Someone said they were giving away a bazillion copies of Alfalfa. ;) I just > responded, cool -- I did not begin the thread. I left edited most of the > text, left the url -- so shoot me! Geez... > > Susan H. > > > > John: > > > > Frankly, I have no idea. I just commented on what I found at the site. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From Lembit.Soobik at t-online.de Thu Apr 3 16:41:06 2003 From: Lembit.Soobik at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 00:41:06 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] [dba-conf]*****AccessD Conference - Call for Papers***** References: <002701c2f3b0$12be72e0$0300a8c0@S856> Message-ID: <009a01c2fa32$1ddee190$0300a8c0@S856> friendly reminder Lembit Soobik The 3rd AccessD Conference will be held August-08 through August-10 2003 in Freising / Germany (near Munich) Depending on the number of participants, the presentations will be held at either my house or a nearby location. Please send Title and short Abstract of your presentation to dba-conf at databaseadvisors.com thank you Lembit Lembit Soobik From DWUTKA at marlow.com Thu Apr 3 17:52:34 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 17:52:34 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82581@main2.marlow.com> I thought 95 was similar to 97, and I am sure 97 won't run on anything less then Windows 95. So I doubt 95 would run on 3.1, but who knows, I never saw Access 95. I'm sure 2.0 is still widely used, but I am also sure that there are a LOT of 97 users. I've talked to people in a lot of companies, that have ALL stuck with 97. I'm sure 97 will eventually dwindle. In our case, we talked about moving to Office 2000 for quite some time, but now XP has been out for a while. The big hesitation with 2k, was Access. Now the issue is money. The other Office applications look far too tempting to be hassled with the issues of upgrading Access. (Not too mention that we have very few actual Access .mdbs that are either stand alone, or FE's, so shifting to a new version of Access will not involve many 'conversions' at all. (On top of that, our two big ones now have a psuedo web interface....so they would almost be 'impervious' to an upgrade too....) Drew -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 5:13 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Gustav, I think you might be surprised at the number of folks still running 2.0 or even 95. Did 95 run on 3.x? I'm too old to clutter up my head with details, but we tend to think of Access as a development tool and that leaves out a huge group -- tons and tons of single owner users that aren't all that concerned with upgrading and keeping current. We use to survey readers each time MS released and upgrade, and I'd say that about 25% of the group wouldn't upgrade -- and had no intentions of ever upgrading. I really can't say how well subscribers represented the Access owners at large though. It often took people a couple of years to upgrad and by then they were facing an even newer release. I think there are more 2.0 users out there than we might realize. Susan H. > I think Access 11 is not going to run on anything older then 98...not 3.1. > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 3:21 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL > > > Hi Susan > > As far as I know, Access 1.x and 2.0 are the only versions that run on > Windows 3.1x. So that shock - moving from Win 3.1x to a Win32 platform > - will only happen for those moving now from Access 2.0 and lower > (running on Win 3.1x!) to Access 95 or higher. > > How many could that be?? > Is any member of this list running Access 2.0/Win 3.1x exclusively? > Please step forward. > > /gustav > > > > Well, a shock for anyone still using Win 3.1 -- can't. You have to upgrade > > Windows to use Access 11. > > > Susan H. > > > >> Are you sure about Access 11? > >> > >> Quoting Mike Gunderloy, > >> Developer Central #24: Office 2003 First Impressions and more! > >> > >> "Access has no significant changes from Access 2002. It's not an exciting > >> time to be an Access developer. I'm revising one Access book for the new > >> version, but don't expect to do much other work with it." > >> > >> /gustav > >> > >> > >> > And what if it is? Think about it guys -- although some conversions > are > >> > more work than others, and certainly Access 11 is going to be a shock > >> > (and Access 12 even more so) for a few still running older > >> > versions on W 3.1, has > >> > MS ever really just left you hanging? Well, maybe it has , I > probably > >> > shouldn't ask when I don't really know the answer. > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From harkins at iglou.com Thu Apr 3 18:11:48 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 19:11:48 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL References: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82581@main2.marlow.com> Message-ID: <026901c2fa3e$cb16f170$c8e6ffcc@SusanOne> > I'm sure 2.0 is still widely used, but I am also sure that there are a LOT > of 97 users. I've talked to people in a lot of companies, that have ALL > stuck with 97. ============Tons of 97 users and developers still out there -- a ton. :) No doubt about it, 97 was a great version and a lot of people just kept it. Upgrades to 2000 and XP were small in comparison. I predict lots of people will finally make the big jump with 2003 -- from 97 to 2003 I mean. Really large upgrades tend to skip a few generations. It's just time, although I don't know that any version will ever compete with 97. Susan H. From DWUTKA at marlow.com Thu Apr 3 18:36:25 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 18:36:25 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82584@main2.marlow.com> Ah, a girl after my own heart! I concur...but I wouldn't be surprised if the real big 'conversion' is split over the next two (or even three) releases. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 6:12 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL > I'm sure 2.0 is still widely used, but I am also sure that there are a LOT > of 97 users. I've talked to people in a lot of companies, that have ALL > stuck with 97. ============Tons of 97 users and developers still out there -- a ton. :) No doubt about it, 97 was a great version and a lot of people just kept it. Upgrades to 2000 and XP were small in comparison. I predict lots of people will finally make the big jump with 2003 -- from 97 to 2003 I mean. Really large upgrades tend to skip a few generations. It's just time, although I don't know that any version will ever compete with 97. Susan H. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From harkins at iglou.com Thu Apr 3 19:07:49 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 20:07:49 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] indexes in ADP Message-ID: <02e801c2fa46$b4bc4fd0$c8e6ffcc@SusanOne> What kind of indexes does an ADP use -- clustered or non-clustered? I'm guessing clustered. Susan H. From DWUTKA at marlow.com Thu Apr 3 19:26:45 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 19:26:45 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Indexing a Memo Field. Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82588@main2.marlow.com> I think you are absolutely right. Tell me about it. The indexes I built for my Access .mdb memo fields take up 130% of the space used for the actual database! Though the time to search dropped by a few thousand percent, so it outweighed the space. Besides, who cares about drive space! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Seth Galitzer [mailto:sgsax at ksu.edu] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 9:44 AM To: accessd Subject: Re: [AccessD] Indexing a Memo Field. Drew, As I understand it, a memo field is different from a text field. It is my understanding that a memo field is really nothing more than a pointer, kind of like an OLE field. The text within a memo field is not stored directly in the table, but in its own storage area that the field points to. So when you are indexing a memo field, all you are really doing is indexing the pointers, not the data. I'm guessing that the Access dev team decided to add it as an index option more for completeness, rather than any practical purpose. It should be noted that "big-iron" database servers do allow you to index text (and memo fields, whatever they may be called) fields on their full contents. This adds significant size to your indexes, but makes for very fast searching on these fields. Seth On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 00:11, Drew Wutka wrote: > I then tested the speed of searching. Doing a search for *Drew* in the 97's > memo field (on an old copy of the Archive database), took about 10 to 11 > seconds to display all of the records. I converted that database to A2k > (and set Unicode compression...which was already set), and the same query > took about 22 seconds. (Go A2k!!! ). I then set the Index for the > memo field in A2k. No speed increase. Also, when I set that index, it took > about 5 seconds for Access to 'create' the index. So I immediately knew it > wasn't indexing everything within the memo field. I then modified my query > to search for Drew*. In 97 that took about 4 to 5 seconds. In A2k, it took > about the same amount of time. With the index 'on' in A2k, it seemed to > take a second or two longer.....now that I found VERY odd. > > So my question is, why in the world does A2k (and later versions) even give > you the option to 'index' a memo field. It does seem to actually do > anything?!?! > > Drew -- Seth Galitzer sgsax at ksu.edu Computing Specialist http://puma.agron.ksu.edu/~sgsax Dept. of Plant Pathology Kansas State University _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz Thu Apr 3 22:03:37 2003 From: stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz (Stephen Bond) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 16:03:37 +1200 Subject: [AccessD] Active-X control - ListView Message-ID: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F290389F2@server.bondsoftware.co.nz> Have inherited a system (Access 2000) with some of these and need help: (a) some documentation on this ListView beast (b) a question ... the View attribute of the control is 3-lvwReport ... is it possible to make some of the columns Read-Only and other columns Read-Write? TIA Stephen Bond Otatara, New Zealand tel 03 213 1256 fax 03 213 0123 From rob at consulting.com.au Thu Apr 3 23:09:35 2003 From: rob at consulting.com.au (Rob Chivers) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 13:09:35 +0800 Subject: [AccessD] export dates using transfertext A2K Message-ID: Hi I am exporting from a table to a text file with dates but keep getting the time in the exported date even though it doesn?t appear in the table. I have tried setting the date to dd-mmm-yyyy in table field but works on 1 table but not on another table. I have manually set up an export specification (eg ExportLeaseSpecification ) for each table using ; delimiter and none for text qualifier and : for time separator. Code is: ?following queries export to tmpPASwinExportLease and has 3 date fields with format dd-mmm-yyyy DoCmd.OpenQuery "qappExportLeaseHeader" DoCmd.OpenQuery "qappExportLease" ExportPASwinFile "ExportLeaseSpecification", "tmpExportLease", "ExportLease.txt" The export works fine but results in 17;21/03/2003;555;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; 1;N;070;ca;;;;2;12/04/1999;11/4/2004 0:00:00;;;;0;;;;;;;28/3/2003 14:10:56; 2;N;070;cip;;;;2;1/07/2000;30/6/2004 0:00:00;;;;0;;;;;;;28/3/2003 14:10:56; and what I want is 17;21/03/2003;555;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; 1;N;070;ca;;;;2;12/04/1999;11/4/2004;;;;0;;;;;;;28/3/2003; 2;N;070;cip;;;;2;1/07/2000;30/6/2004;;;;0;;;;;;;28/3/2003; Can anybody help? Thanks Rob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From papparuff at attbi.com Thu Apr 3 23:28:48 2003 From: papparuff at attbi.com (John Ruff) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 21:28:48 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] export dates using transfertext A2K In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002201c2fa6b$119b99d0$6401a8c0@papparuff> Set the formats for the dates in the queries themselves instead of the tables. John V. Ruff - The Eternal Optimist :-) "Commit to the Lord whatever you do, and your plans will succeed." Proverbs 16:3 -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rob Chivers Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 9:10 PM To: AccessD Subject: [AccessD] export dates using transfertext A2K Hi I am exporting from a table to a text file with dates but keep getting the time in the exported date even though it doesn't appear in the table. I have tried setting the date to dd-mmm-yyyy in table field but works on 1 table but not on another table. I have manually set up an export specification (eg ExportLeaseSpecification ) for each table using ; delimiter and none for text qualifier and : for time separator. Code is: 'following queries export to tmpPASwinExportLease and has 3 date fields with format dd-mmm-yyyy DoCmd.OpenQuery "qappExportLeaseHeader" DoCmd.OpenQuery "qappExportLease" ExportPASwinFile "ExportLeaseSpecification", "tmpExportLease", "ExportLease.txt" The export works fine but results in 17;21/03/2003;555;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; 1;N;070;ca;;;;2;12/04/1999;11/4/2004 0:00:00;;;;0;;;;;;;28/3/2003 14:10:56; 2;N;070;cip;;;;2;1/07/2000;30/6/2004 0:00:00;;;;0;;;;;;;28/3/2003 14:10:56; and what I want is 17;21/03/2003;555;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; 1;N;070;ca;;;;2;12/04/1999;11/4/2004;;;;0;;;;;;;28/3/2003; 2;N;070;cip;;;;2;1/07/2000;30/6/2004;;;;0;;;;;;;28/3/2003; Can anybody help? Thanks Rob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gustav at cactus.dk Fri Apr 4 03:07:35 2003 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 11:07:35 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL In-Reply-To: <016d01c2fa3a$010cd2e0$c8e6ffcc@SusanOne> References: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82575@main2.marlow.com> <016d01c2fa3a$010cd2e0$c8e6ffcc@SusanOne> Message-ID: <1287689947.20030404110735@cactus.dk> Hi Susan > Gustav, I think you might be surprised at the number of folks still running > 2.0 or even 95. No, we have clients here running 2.0 apps on everything from Win95 to WinXP. It runs extremely stable - actually I can't remember a breakdown for years. On the other hand we have no clients running Win 3.1x. > Did 95 run on 3.x? No. It was pushed as a 32 bit version of Access for Windows 95. Contrary to the rumors it can run very stable (a client had one running with four users for five years without a single issue) but as Access 95 was so quickly replaced by Access 97 that you hardly see any Access 95 apps any more. It's like Access 1.x and 2.0 - Access 1.x apps are very rare because they are easily converted to 2.0. /gustav > I'm too old to clutter up my head with > details, but we tend to think of Access as a development tool and that > leaves out a huge group -- tons and tons of single owner users that aren't > all that concerned with upgrading and keeping current. > We use to survey readers each time MS released and upgrade, and I'd say that > about 25% of the group wouldn't upgrade -- and had no intentions of ever > upgrading. I really can't say how well subscribers represented the Access > owners at large though. It often took people a couple of years to upgrad and > by then they were facing an even newer release. I think there are more 2.0 > users out there than we might realize. > Susan H. >> I think Access 11 is not going to run on anything older then 98...not 3.1. >> >> Drew >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] >> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 3:21 AM >> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL >> >> >> Hi Susan >> >> As far as I know, Access 1.x and 2.0 are the only versions that run on >> Windows 3.1x. So that shock - moving from Win 3.1x to a Win32 platform >> - will only happen for those moving now from Access 2.0 and lower >> (running on Win 3.1x!) to Access 95 or higher. >> >> How many could that be?? >> Is any member of this list running Access 2.0/Win 3.1x exclusively? >> Please step forward. >> >> /gustav >> >> >> > Well, a shock for anyone still using Win 3.1 -- can't. You have to >> > upgrade Windows to use Access 11. >> >> > Susan H. >> >> >> >> Are you sure about Access 11? >> >> >> >> Quoting Mike Gunderloy, >> >> Developer Central #24: Office 2003 First Impressions and more! >> >> >> >> "Access has no significant changes from Access 2002. It's not an >> >> exciting >> >> time to be an Access developer. I'm revising one Access book for the >> >> new version, but don't expect to do much other work with it." >> >> >> >> /gustav >> >> >> >> >> >> > And what if it is? Think about it guys -- although some conversions >> >> > are >> >> > more work than others, and certainly Access 11 is going to be a shock >> >> > (and Access 12 even more so) for a few still running older >> >> > versions on W 3.1, has >> >> > MS ever really just left you hanging? Well, maybe it has , I >> >> > probably shouldn't ask when I don't really know the answer. From scott.marcus at ae.ge.com Fri Apr 4 05:45:07 2003 From: scott.marcus at ae.ge.com (Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting)) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 06:45:07 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] New Software releases Was: ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Message-ID: <768A0EA6FF8CB34FA522978966E5D52E559D5E@bwam02msx.ae.ge.com> Drew, < References: <806536912C472E4A9D6515DF2E57261E0C5971@mercury.tnco-inc.com> Message-ID: <3322233530.20030404150958@cactus.dk> Hi Joe This is an example where a compound index may come in handy. Combine this with a simple field validation rule and you're off. Consider this schematic table design: Main ID TypeFK Type ID Category1 ID MainFK TypeFK Category2 ID MainFK TypeFK Category3 ID MainFK TypeFK All ID-fields are autonumbers. Type.ID may be a normal long. Table Type contains three records, one for each category. A compound unique index is created on ID and TypeFK in table Main. Type.ID has a 1-M relation to Main.TypeFK. Main.ID and Main.TypeFK has a 1-1 relation to Categoryx.MainFK and Categoryx.TypeFK Now, add to the three fields Categoryx.TypeFK a validation rule: =x where x is the ID (1, 2 or 3) of the type of that category. In this way you can add any or no entry in a category table for an ID of the main table. If you cannot add the TypeFK field to the main table then you can move this to a link table, say tblCategory, with the fields MainFK TypeFK fitted with a compound index and a 1-1 relation to table Main. If anyone could come up with a solution without the compound index I would like to see it. /gustav > I have four tables, one is the "main" table and the other three are category > or type tables with a one-to-one relationship to the "main" table. > I want to limit a record that is in the "main" table to exist in only one of > the category tables with the flexibility of the record moving, if you will, > from one category table to another. For example, if during the creation of a > new record the user picks category1 from a combo box, he/she is presented > with the fields that are found in the category1 table. If at a later point > he/she decides to change the category to category2, the information from > category1 would be removed and the user would fill in the information for > category2. > I have coded this before and everything worked out well, but what I was > wondering is if the ability to limiting to one category table could be > achieved using some form a relationship rules in Access. Or can this only be > accomplished with coding? From bchacc at san.rr.com Fri Apr 4 07:57:02 2003 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 05:57:02 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] test Message-ID: <001e01c2fab2$11eb6f40$6501a8c0@HAL9002> just a test -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From budge at magicaldesk.com Fri Apr 4 07:59:52 2003 From: budge at magicaldesk.com (budge at magicaldesk.com) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 21:59:52 +0800 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humour Message-ID: Why Google works so well! ;-) http://www.google.com/technology/pigeonrank.html Pamela _____________________________________________________________ Global Virtual Desktop Get your free Desktop at http://www.magicaldesk.com From Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us Fri Apr 4 08:13:31 2003 From: Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us (Gowey Mike W) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 07:13:31 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Retrieving a Record Field Message-ID: <05EBB8A3BEB95B4F8216BE4EF4860778010750@srciml1.ds.doc.state.or.us> That is correct, the name of the field that has the error will be displayed in the field named Huh_Field. I need to be able to display the information that is in the field that is listed in Huh_field. For instance the DOB field is incorrect this field name will be listed in the Huh_Field, I need than to display the information in the DOB field so the end user can correct it. I hope that makes sense. Thanks, Mike Gowey, MCP Technical Support Analyst SRCI ISSD Team Leader (541)881-4808 -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 3:58 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Retrieving a Record Field So let me get this straight. You need to display a form, that has 'two' fields at top, one is the name of the field that had an error, and the second is the value of the field. Right? (Do you need to display the rest of the data too?) Drew -----Original Message----- From: Gowey Mike W [mailto:Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:53 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Retrieving a Record Field Hi Everyone, I have a a need to pull a field from a record in a database when the field name is listed in another Field. What I am doing is I have a flat file that is imported into an Oracle database and it is run through a filter that checks the validity of certain fields in each record. If the record does not pass the filter the record is put into a temp table and the field name that has the error in it is put in a new field. I need to be able to display the field with the error on a form when the record is brought up. This will allow the end user to fix the record. Is this possible??? Thanks, Mike Gowey, MCP Technical Support Analyst SRCI ISSD Team Leader _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mitsules_ms at nns.com Fri Apr 4 08:12:23 2003 From: mitsules_ms at nns.com (Mitsules, Mark) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 09:12:23 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humour Message-ID: This simply confirmed my suspigeons...;) Mark -----Original Message----- From: budge at magicaldesk.com [mailto:budge at magicaldesk.com] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 9:00 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humour Why Google works so well! ;-) http://www.google.com/technology/pigeonrank.html Pamela _____________________________________________________________ Global Virtual Desktop Get your free Desktop at http://www.magicaldesk.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com Fri Apr 4 08:18:30 2003 From: jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 09:18:30 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT - My dog is dying Message-ID: Not to ruin anyone's day, but anyone who has nothing to grieve about today can grieve with my family and I. This is really a warning to all you dog owners. My two blond labs got Lymes disease, which is a treatable micro-organism spread by fleas. The organism is known to "settle in" the kidneys and my 5 year old blond Lab Boca is dying because his kidneys are failing. We discovered that he had the disease when he stopped eating and we took him to the vet. There is a vaccine to prevent the disease. Why it is not publicized I don't know but I didn't find out until too late. This disease is an epidemic in the northeast and is spreading across the US. If you have dogs and live in an area where the disease is known to exist, think about getting them the vaccine. There is nothing more heart wrenching than watching your dog die knowing that you could have prevented it. 8-( John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------- Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com Fri Apr 4 08:22:03 2003 From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 08:22:03 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Message-ID: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB2338C70F@TAPPEEXCH01> We also have a bunch of legacy A2 applications. IMHO, it is the most stable version of Access (HINT: there is no /decompile option, because it's not needed!). What amazed me when I was porting some apps over to A2K was the performance difference, particularily on code execution. I believe it was Charlotte who pointed out that AccessBasic was developed using assembler, and therefore is extremely tight. Another nice surprise was that all of these apps run happily in any OS - 3.11-XP. Even with 16-bit OCX controls and a ton of Win16 API calls, everything behaves perfectly. I guess I have a hard time going along with people who say that MS refuses to support previous versions of their product. -----Original Message----- From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 3:08 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Hi Susan > Gustav, I think you might be surprised at the number of folks still running > 2.0 or even 95. No, we have clients here running 2.0 apps on everything from Win95 to WinXP. It runs extremely stable - actually I can't remember a breakdown for years. On the other hand we have no clients running Win 3.1x. > Did 95 run on 3.x? No. It was pushed as a 32 bit version of Access for Windows 95. Contrary to the rumors it can run very stable (a client had one running with four users for five years without a single issue) but as Access 95 was so quickly replaced by Access 97 that you hardly see any Access 95 apps any more. It's like Access 1.x and 2.0 - Access 1.x apps are very rare because they are easily converted to 2.0. /gustav From jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com Fri Apr 4 08:21:38 2003 From: jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 09:21:38 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humour In-Reply-To: Message-ID: That was wonderful! John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of budge at magicaldesk.com Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 9:00 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humour Why Google works so well! ;-) http://www.google.com/technology/pigeonrank.html Pamela _____________________________________________________________ Global Virtual Desktop Get your free Desktop at http://www.magicaldesk.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ---------------------------------------------------- Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I've never had a dog but I did have to watch my best friend's dog die of distemper a few years back (I was caring for it while she was working) and I do know how closely people bond with their doggy friends. And the guilt that makes the grief so much harder to bear (distemper is preventable too.) All my family's cats died of kidney failure and it's not a nice way to go either. Just make him as comfortable as you can and don't let it go on too long no matter how hard it is to make that final decision :( R -----Original Message----- From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com] Sent: 04 April 2003 15:19 To: AccessD Subject: [AccessD] OT - My dog is dying Not to ruin anyone's day, but anyone who has nothing to grieve about today can grieve with my family and I. This is really a warning to all you dog owners. My two blond labs got Lymes disease, which is a treatable micro-organism spread by fleas. The organism is known to "settle in" the kidneys and my 5 year old blond Lab Boca is dying because his kidneys are failing. We discovered that he had the disease when he stopped eating and we took him to the vet. There is a vaccine to prevent the disease. Why it is not publicized I don't know but I didn't find out until too late. This disease is an epidemic in the northeast and is spreading across the US. If you have dogs and live in an area where the disease is known to exist, think about getting them the vaccine. There is nothing more heart wrenching than watching your dog die knowing that you could have prevented it. 8-( John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------- Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us Fri Apr 4 08:42:34 2003 From: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us (Tesiny, Ed) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 09:42:34 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT - My dog is dying Message-ID: John, Very sorry to hear this, we lost our 8 year old miniature dachie on Thanksgiving 2 years ago after 6 months of vets and specialists (protein losing enteropathy). Very difficult and the pain lingers on, all you can do is give them all the love you can while they're still with us. We just started looking for a new dog last week... Again, very sorry {:`( Ed Tesiny EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us -----Original Message----- From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 9:19 AM To: AccessD Subject: [AccessD] OT - My dog is dying Not to ruin anyone's day, but anyone who has nothing to grieve about today can grieve with my family and I. This is really a warning to all you dog owners. My two blond labs got Lymes disease, which is a treatable micro-organism spread by fleas. The organism is known to "settle in" the kidneys and my 5 year old blond Lab Boca is dying because his kidneys are failing. We discovered that he had the disease when he stopped eating and we took him to the vet. There is a vaccine to prevent the disease. Why it is not publicized I don't know but I didn't find out until too late. This disease is an epidemic in the northeast and is spreading across the US. If you have dogs and live in an area where the disease is known to exist, think about getting them the vaccine. There is nothing more heart wrenching than watching your dog die knowing that you could have prevented it. 8-( John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------- Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com Fri Apr 4 08:51:56 2003 From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 08:51:56 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] OT - My dog is dying Message-ID: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A08ECB14C@exchange.pgdp> I am so sorry, I remember seeing the pictures of your dogs that you published on the web. I know how it is. A few years ago we lost our dog "Dog" to heart worms. Never dreamed that he would get heart worms until he started swelling & holding water. The vet gave him water pills, but it only worked for awhile. I came home one day, and knowing how I felt, my husband told me "Dog ran away". We felt the same way - we should have started him on medicine, but never had that happen before. All the years we had pets, this is the first time one of them had heart worms or any disease. Our beagle also has the heart worms now too - he caught them from Dog, I have him on medicine - it doesn't get rid of the worms, but prevents new ones from hatching. Soon after Dog died, we started loosing our cats to Feline Aids. These were animals that we had for years and grew up with our kids. Makes you wonder when we get bit by fleas and mosquitoes.... Virginia -----Original Message----- From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 8:19 AM To: AccessD Subject: [AccessD] OT - My dog is dying Not to ruin anyone's day, but anyone who has nothing to grieve about today can grieve with my family and I. This is really a warning to all you dog owners. My two blond labs got Lymes disease, which is a treatable micro-organism spread by fleas. The organism is known to "settle in" the kidneys and my 5 year old blond Lab Boca is dying because his kidneys are failing. We discovered that he had the disease when he stopped eating and we took him to the vet. There is a vaccine to prevent the disease. Why it is not publicized I don't know but I didn't find out until too late. This disease is an epidemic in the northeast and is spreading across the US. If you have dogs and live in an area where the disease is known to exist, think about getting them the vaccine. There is nothing more heart wrenching than watching your dog die knowing that you could have prevented it. 8-( John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------- Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bheid at appdevgrp.com Fri Apr 4 09:19:30 2003 From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 10:19:30 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT - My dog is dying Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30332FAD@ADGSERVER> Virginia, On a little bit happier note, many years ago, we had a dog that got heartworms. We were told that she would die without a drastic treatment. The treatment had something to do with cyanide. The vet told us it would either cure her or kill her. So we tried it. She was sick for a while during treatment, but she survived. She is gone now, but lived for many years after that. Bobby -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hollis,Virginia Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 9:52 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - My dog is dying I am so sorry, I remember seeing the pictures of your dogs that you published on the web. I know how it is. A few years ago we lost our dog "Dog" to heart worms. Never dreamed that he would get heart worms until he started swelling & holding water. The vet gave him water pills, but it only worked for awhile. I came home one day, and knowing how I felt, my husband told me "Dog ran away". We felt the same way - we should have started him on medicine, but never had that happen before. All the years we had pets, this is the first time one of them had heart worms or any disease. Our beagle also has the heart worms now too - he caught them from Dog, I have him on medicine - it doesn't get rid of the worms, but prevents new ones from hatching. Soon after Dog died, we started loosing our cats to Feline Aids. These were animals that we had for years and grew up with our kids. Makes you wonder when we get bit by fleas and mosquitoes.... Virginia From chizotz at charter.net Fri Apr 4 09:17:01 2003 From: chizotz at charter.net (Ron Allen) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 10:17:01 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT - My dog is dying In-Reply-To: Message-ID: John, I know what you and your family are going through, and my heart goes out to you. This isn't to everyone's taste, but I found parts of this site helpful and comforting when I lost my cat companion of 12 years awhile back: http://www.petloss.com/ My thoughts are with you. Ron From gjgiever at yahoo.com Fri Apr 4 09:25:09 2003 From: gjgiever at yahoo.com (Gary) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 07:25:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [AccessD] Deselect all items from a multi-Select list box Message-ID: <20030404152509.41469.qmail@web10501.mail.yahoo.com> I'm using Access97 on Windows XP. I have developed a simple application to track which tables are used by various applications that I have developed. The main form has a multi-select listbox with all the tables. The main form is bound to the table with all the applications. I select all the appropriate tables for the application in the listbox then a command button adds all the selected tables to a third table that lists all the tables for each application. My problem is that when i navigate to another application all the tables that I selected for the previous application are still selected. I can go through and manually deselt each item or close the form and reopen it. There must be an easier and more elegant way to clear the listbox. I researched this and found one other person who asked this question but no one replied. It seems like it should be easy to do. Gary J. Giever, MA ACCMHS __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com From harkins at iglou.com Fri Apr 4 09:35:55 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 10:35:55 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Deselect all items from a multi-Select list box References: <20030404152509.41469.qmail@web10501.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <007401c2fabf$e603a010$ace6ffcc@SusanOne> Loop through the list items and set the Selected property to 0. I'm in the middle of putting up a new desk and all of by books and journals are everywhere but where I need them or I'd offer the actual code. I can't recall if it's Selected or SelectedItem. So, from Help: Selected Property See Also Applies To Example Specifics You can use the Selected property in Visual Basic to determine if an item in a list box is selected. Read/write Long. expression.Selected(lRow) expression Required. An expression that returns one of the objects in the Applies To list. lRow Required Long. The item in the list box. The first item is represented by a zero (0), the second by a one (1), and so on. Remarks The Selected property is a zero-based array that contains the selected state of each item in a list box. Setting Description True The list box item is selected. False The list box item isn't selected. You can get or set the Selected property by using Visual Basic. This property is available only at run time. When a list box control's MultiSelect property is set to None, only one item can have its Selected property set to True. When a list box control's MultiSelect property is set to Simple or Extended, any or all of the items can have their Selected property set to True. A multiple-selection list box bound to a field will always have a Value property equal to Null. You use the Selected property or the ItemsSelected collection to retrieve information about which items are selected. You can use the Selected property to select items in a list box by using Visual Basic. For example, the following expression selects the fifth item in the list: Me!Listbox.Selected(4) = True Example The following example uses the Selected property to move selected items in the lstSource list box to the lstDestination list box. The lstDestination list box's RowSourceType property is set to Value List and the control's RowSource property is constructed from all the selected items in the lstSource control. The lstSource list box's MultiSelect property is set to Extended. The CopySelected( ) procedure is called from the cmdCopyItem command button. Private Sub cmdCopyItem_Click() CopySelected Me End Sub Public Sub CopySelected(ByRef frm As Form) Dim ctlSource As Control Dim ctlDest As Control Dim strItems As String Dim intCurrentRow As Integer Set ctlSource = frm!lstSource Set ctlDest = frm!lstDestination For intCurrentRow = 0 To ctlSource.ListCount - 1 If ctlSource.Selected(intCurrentRow) Then strItems = strItems & ctlSource.Column(0, _ intCurrentRow) & ";" End If Next intCurrentRow ' Reset destination control's RowSource property. ctlDest.RowSource = "" ctlDest.RowSource = strItems Set ctlSource = Nothing Set ctlDest = Nothing End Sub ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary" To: Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 10:25 AM Subject: [AccessD] Deselect all items from a multi-Select list box > I'm using Access97 on Windows XP. I have developed a > simple application to track which tables are used by > various applications that I have developed. The main > form has a multi-select listbox with all the tables. > The main form is bound to the table with all the > applications. I select all the appropriate tables for > the application in the listbox then a command button > adds all the selected tables to a third table that > lists all the tables for each application. > > My problem is that when i navigate to another > application all the tables that I selected for the > previous application are still selected. I can go > through and manually deselt each item or close the > form and reopen it. There must be an easier and more > elegant way to clear the listbox. I researched this > and found one other person who asked this question but > no one replied. It seems like it should be easy to > do. > > Gary J. Giever, MA > ACCMHS > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more > http://tax.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From gjgiever at yahoo.com Fri Apr 4 09:36:26 2003 From: gjgiever at yahoo.com (Gary) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 07:36:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [AccessD] Deselect all items from a multi-Select list box In-Reply-To: <20030404152509.41469.qmail@web10501.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030404153626.53236.qmail@web10503.mail.yahoo.com> I forgot to note that the listbox is unbound. --- Gary wrote: > I'm using Access97 on Windows XP. I have developed > a > simple application to track which tables are used by > various applications that I have developed. The > main > form has a multi-select listbox with all the tables. > > The main form is bound to the table with all the > applications. I select all the appropriate tables > for > the application in the listbox then a command button > adds all the selected tables to a third table that > lists all the tables for each application. > > My problem is that when i navigate to another > application all the tables that I selected for the > previous application are still selected. I can go > through and manually deselt each item or close the > form and reopen it. There must be an easier and > more > elegant way to clear the listbox. I researched this > and found one other person who asked this question > but > no one replied. It seems like it should be easy to > do. > > Gary J. Giever, MA > ACCMHS > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, > and more > http://tax.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ===== Gary Some people are born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple. Barry Switzer (1937 - ) Jesus loves you...then again, so does Barney. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com From mikedorism at ntelos.net Fri Apr 4 09:38:50 2003 From: mikedorism at ntelos.net (Mike and Doris Manning) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 10:38:50 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Deselect all items from a multi-Select list box In-Reply-To: <20030404152509.41469.qmail@web10501.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004b01c2fac0$4d7e1a90$82310cd8@hargrove.internal> Dim lcv as Integer For lcv = 0 to MyListBox.ListCount - 1 MyListBox.Selected(lcv) = False Next lcv Doris Manning Database Administrator Hargrove Inc. www.hargroveinc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 10:25 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: [AccessD] Deselect all items from a multi-Select list box I'm using Access97 on Windows XP. I have developed a simple application to track which tables are used by various applications that I have developed. The main form has a multi-select listbox with all the tables. The main form is bound to the table with all the applications. I select all the appropriate tables for the application in the listbox then a command button adds all the selected tables to a third table that lists all the tables for each application. My problem is that when i navigate to another application all the tables that I selected for the previous application are still selected. I can go through and manually deselt each item or close the form and reopen it. There must be an easier and more elegant way to clear the listbox. I researched this and found one other person who asked this question but no one replied. It seems like it should be easy to do. Gary J. Giever, MA ACCMHS __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gjgiever at yahoo.com Fri Apr 4 09:38:34 2003 From: gjgiever at yahoo.com (Gary) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 07:38:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: [AccessD] Deselect all items from a multi-Select list box In-Reply-To: <007401c2fabf$e603a010$ace6ffcc@SusanOne> Message-ID: <20030404153834.83511.qmail@web10508.mail.yahoo.com> Thank you very much. Gary --- Susan Harkins wrote: > Loop through the list items and set the Selected > property to 0. I'm in the > middle of putting up a new desk and all of by books > and journals are > everywhere but where I need them or I'd offer the > actual code. I can't > recall if it's Selected or SelectedItem. So, from > Help: > > Selected Property > See Also Applies To Example Specifics > You can use the Selected property in Visual Basic to > determine if an item in > a list box is selected. Read/write Long. > > expression.Selected(lRow) > > expression Required. An expression that returns > one of the objects in the > Applies To list. > > lRow Required Long. The item in the list box. The > first item is represented > by a zero (0), the second by a one (1), and so on. > > Remarks > The Selected property is a zero-based array that > contains the selected state > of each item in a list box. > > Setting Description > True The list box item is selected. > False The list box item isn't selected. > > You can get or set the Selected property by using > Visual Basic. > This property is available only at run time. > > When a list box control's MultiSelect property is > set to None, only one item > can have its Selected property set to True. When a > list box control's > MultiSelect property is set to Simple or Extended, > any or all of the items > can have their Selected property set to True. A > multiple-selection list box > bound to a field will always have a Value property > equal to Null. You use > the Selected property or the ItemsSelected > collection to retrieve > information about which items are selected. > > You can use the Selected property to select items in > a list box by using > Visual Basic. For example, the following expression > selects the fifth item > in the list: > > Me!Listbox.Selected(4) = True > Example > The following example uses the Selected property to > move selected items in > the lstSource list box to the lstDestination list > box. The lstDestination > list box's RowSourceType property is set to Value > List and the control's > RowSource property is constructed from all the > selected items in the > lstSource control. The lstSource list box's > MultiSelect property is set to > Extended. The CopySelected( ) procedure is called > from the cmdCopyItem > command button. > > Private Sub cmdCopyItem_Click() > CopySelected Me > End Sub > > Public Sub CopySelected(ByRef frm As Form) > > Dim ctlSource As Control > Dim ctlDest As Control > Dim strItems As String > Dim intCurrentRow As Integer > > Set ctlSource = frm!lstSource > Set ctlDest = frm!lstDestination > > For intCurrentRow = 0 To ctlSource.ListCount - 1 > If ctlSource.Selected(intCurrentRow) Then > strItems = strItems & > ctlSource.Column(0, _ > intCurrentRow) & ";" > End If > Next intCurrentRow > > ' Reset destination control's RowSource > property. > ctlDest.RowSource = "" > ctlDest.RowSource = strItems > > Set ctlSource = Nothing > Set ctlDest = Nothing > > End Sub ===== Gary Some people are born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple. Barry Switzer (1937 - ) Jesus loves you...then again, so does Barney. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com From gjgiever at yahoo.com Fri Apr 4 09:41:29 2003 From: gjgiever at yahoo.com (Gary) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 07:41:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [AccessD] Deselect all items from a multi-Select list box In-Reply-To: <004b01c2fac0$4d7e1a90$82310cd8@hargrove.internal> Message-ID: <20030404154129.75447.qmail@web10506.mail.yahoo.com> Thank you. I have managed to avoid using multi-select listboxes for seven years so I never ran into this before. Gary --- Mike and Doris Manning wrote: > Dim lcv as Integer > > For lcv = 0 to MyListBox.ListCount - 1 > MyListBox.Selected(lcv) = False > Next lcv > > Doris Manning > Database Administrator > Hargrove Inc. > www.hargroveinc.com ===== Gary Some people are born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple. Barry Switzer (1937 - ) Jesus loves you...then again, so does Barney. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com From bchacc at san.rr.com Fri Apr 4 09:45:46 2003 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 07:45:46 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Deselect all items from a multi-Select list box References: <20030404152509.41469.qmail@web10501.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <006901c2fac1$42904b20$6501a8c0@HAL9002> Ooh. Ooh. I know this one: Dim varValue As Variant For Each varValue In lstOrders.ItemsSelected lstOrders.Selected(varValue) = False Next varValue lstOrders.Requery strList = "" Me.Repaint Not sure you need the lstOrders.Requery. strList is where I'm holding the list of items selected for another purpose. It gets updated in the AfterUpdate event of the multi-select list box. HTH Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary" To: Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 7:25 AM Subject: [AccessD] Deselect all items from a multi-Select list box > I'm using Access97 on Windows XP. I have developed a > simple application to track which tables are used by > various applications that I have developed. The main > form has a multi-select listbox with all the tables. > The main form is bound to the table with all the > applications. I select all the appropriate tables for > the application in the listbox then a command button > adds all the selected tables to a third table that > lists all the tables for each application. > > My problem is that when i navigate to another > application all the tables that I selected for the > previous application are still selected. I can go > through and manually deselt each item or close the > form and reopen it. There must be an easier and more > elegant way to clear the listbox. I researched this > and found one other person who asked this question but > no one replied. It seems like it should be easy to > do. > > Gary J. Giever, MA > ACCMHS > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more > http://tax.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From bob at renaissancesiding.com Fri Apr 4 09:51:47 2003 From: bob at renaissancesiding.com (Bob Gajewski) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 10:51:47 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Deselect all items from a multi-Select list box Message-ID: <01C2FA98.31674660.bob@renaissancesiding.com> Gary There is a good starting point for this in the ADH97 on pages 363-370. Regards, Bob Gajewski On Friday, April 04, 2003 10:36 AM, Gary [SMTP:gjgiever at yahoo.com] wrote: > I forgot to note that the listbox is unbound > > > --- Gary wrote: > > I'm using Access97 on Windows XP. I have developed > > a > > simple application to track which tables are used by > > various applications that I have developed. The > > main > > form has a multi-select listbox with all the tables > > > > The main form is bound to the table with all the > > applications. I select all the appropriate tables > > for > > the application in the listbox then a command button > > adds all the selected tables to a third table that > > lists all the tables for each application. > > > > My problem is that when i navigate to another > > application all the tables that I selected for the > > previous application are still selected. I can go > > through and manually deselt each item or close the > > form and reopen it. There must be an easier and > > more > > elegant way to clear the listbox. I researched this > > and found one other person who asked this question > > but > > no one replied. It seems like it should be easy to > > do. > > > > Gary J. Giever, MA > > ACCMHS > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, > > and more > > http://tax.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > ===== > Gary > > Some people are born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple. > Barry Switzer (1937 - ) > > Jesus loves you...then again, so does Barney > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more > http://tax.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From my.lists at verizon.net Fri Apr 4 09:54:33 2003 From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 07:54:33 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] indexes in ADP References: <02e801c2fa46$b4bc4fd0$c8e6ffcc@SusanOne> Message-ID: <000f01c2fac2$7cbc7480$b615010a@FHTAPIA> ADP's are nothing more than FE hooks to a Sql Server. Indexes are a database function and therefor available through the sql server engine. To use Non/Clustered indexes you will have to specify them when in the table design view. If a table has a clustered index, and you access the db via an ADP that ADP makes calls to a sproc/view and IT (the sproc/view) uses these in the optimizer to access your data. Adp's do nothing more than connect and request the data. -Francisco http://rcm.netfirms.com On Thursday, April 03, 2003 5:07 PM [GMT-8], Susan Harkins wrote: : What kind of indexes does an ADP use -- clustered or non-clustered? : I'm guessing clustered. : : Susan H. : From jim.hale at fleetpride.com Fri Apr 4 09:51:26 2003 From: jim.hale at fleetpride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 09:51:26 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humour Message-ID: <869379ABF177D4118D3100508B5EF873059852BE@corp-es00> I always thought it was Gates who perfected this technology. You learn something new every day. :-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: budge at magicaldesk.com [mailto:budge at magicaldesk.com] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 8:00 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humour Why Google works so well! ;-) http://www.google.com/technology/pigeonrank.html Pamela _____________________________________________________________ Global Virtual Desktop Get your free Desktop at http://www.magicaldesk.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From my.lists at verizon.net Fri Apr 4 09:54:33 2003 From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 07:54:33 -0800 Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Re: [AccessD] indexes in ADP References: <02e801c2fa46$b4bc4fd0$c8e6ffcc@SusanOne> Message-ID: <000f01c2fac2$7cbc7480$b615010a@FHTAPIA> ADP's are nothing more than FE hooks to a Sql Server. Indexes are a database function and therefor available through the sql server engine. To use Non/Clustered indexes you will have to specify them when in the table design view. If a table has a clustered index, and you access the db via an ADP that ADP makes calls to a sproc/view and IT (the sproc/view) uses these in the optimizer to access your data. Adp's do nothing more than connect and request the data. -Francisco http://rcm.netfirms.com On Thursday, April 03, 2003 5:07 PM [GMT-8], Susan Harkins wrote: : What kind of indexes does an ADP use -- clustered or non-clustered? : I'm guessing clustered. : : Susan H. : _______________________________________________ dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Fri Apr 4 10:07:48 2003 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 11:07:48 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Deselect all items from a multi-Select list box Message-ID: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF40389765C@xlivmbx12.aig.com> Here's another way to do it, which could be faster depending on how many items are in the list... Sub ClearListBox(lst As ListBox) Dim sRowSource As String sRowSource = lst.RowSource lst.RowSource = "" ' no row source, so nothing is selected lst.RowSource = sRowSource End Sub Lambert > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary [SMTP:gjgiever at yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 10:41 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Deselect all items from a multi-Select list > box > > Thank you. I have managed to avoid using multi-select > listboxes for seven years so I never ran into this > before. > > Gary > > > --- Mike and Doris Manning > wrote: > > Dim lcv as Integer > > > > For lcv = 0 to MyListBox.ListCount - 1 > > MyListBox.Selected(lcv) = False > > Next lcv > > > > Doris Manning > > Database Administrator > > Hargrove Inc. > > www.hargroveinc.com > > > ===== > Gary > > Some people are born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a > triple. > Barry Switzer (1937 - ) > > Jesus loves you...then again, so does Barney. > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more > http://tax.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gjgiever at yahoo.com Fri Apr 4 10:11:25 2003 From: gjgiever at yahoo.com (Gary) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 08:11:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [AccessD] Deselect all items from a multi-Select list box In-Reply-To: <006901c2fac1$42904b20$6501a8c0@HAL9002> Message-ID: <20030404161125.90242.qmail@web10508.mail.yahoo.com> Thank you very much. --- Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote: > Ooh. Ooh. I know this one: > > Dim varValue As Variant > > For Each varValue In lstOrders.ItemsSelected > lstOrders.Selected(varValue) = False > Next varValue > > lstOrders.Requery > strList = "" > > Me.Repaint > > Not sure you need the lstOrders.Requery. strList is > where I'm holding the > list of items selected for another purpose. It gets > updated in the > AfterUpdate event of the multi-select list box. > > HTH > > Rocky Smolin > Beach Access Software > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary" > To: > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 7:25 AM > Subject: [AccessD] Deselect all items from a > multi-Select list box > > > > I'm using Access97 on Windows XP. I have > developed a > > simple application to track which tables are used > by > > various applications that I have developed. The > main > > form has a multi-select listbox with all the > tables. > > The main form is bound to the table with all the > > applications. I select all the appropriate tables > for > > the application in the listbox then a command > button > > adds all the selected tables to a third table that > > lists all the tables for each application. > > > > My problem is that when i navigate to another > > application all the tables that I selected for the > > previous application are still selected. I can go > > through and manually deselt each item or close the > > form and reopen it. There must be an easier and > more > > elegant way to clear the listbox. I researched > this > > and found one other person who asked this question > but > > no one replied. It seems like it should be easy > to > > do. > > > > Gary J. Giever, MA > > ACCMHS > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, > forms, and more > > http://tax.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ===== Gary Some people are born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple. Barry Switzer (1937 - ) Jesus loves you...then again, so does Barney. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com From James at fcidms.com Fri Apr 4 10:12:20 2003 From: James at fcidms.com (James Barash) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 11:12:20 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT - My dog is dying In-Reply-To: Message-ID: John, Very sorry to hear about your dog. My wife lost her cat to kidney failure a few years ago and still doesn't want to get another pet. As an additional warning, people can also get Lymes desease which, while not usually fatal, can be extremely uncomfortable. There is also a vaccine for humans. Again, sorry to hear about you loss. James Barash From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Fri Apr 4 10:12:48 2003 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 11:12:48 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT - My dog is dying Message-ID: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF40389765D@xlivmbx12.aig.com> No-one want to see their pet in distress, so you have all our sympathy. I think it's also worth pointing out that Lyme's is a serious problem for humans too. It's spread via tick bites and is very debilitating. See http://www.bird-dog-news.com/SO92/Page33.html for more information. Lambert > -----Original Message----- > From: John W. Colby [SMTP:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com] > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 9:19 AM > To: AccessD > Subject: [AccessD] OT - My dog is dying > > Not to ruin anyone's day, but anyone who has nothing to grieve about today > can grieve with my family and I. > > This is really a warning to all you dog owners. My two blond labs got > Lymes > disease, which is a treatable micro-organism spread by fleas. The > organism > is known to "settle in" the kidneys and my 5 year old blond Lab Boca is > dying because his kidneys are failing. We discovered that he had the > disease when he stopped eating and we took him to the vet. There is a > vaccine to prevent the disease. Why it is not publicized I don't know but > I > didn't find out until too late. > > This disease is an epidemic in the northeast and is spreading across the > US. > If you have dogs and live in an area where the disease is known to exist, > think about getting them the vaccine. There is nothing more heart > wrenching > than watching your dog die knowing that you could have prevented it. > > 8-( > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. > Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gjgiever at yahoo.com Fri Apr 4 10:13:02 2003 From: gjgiever at yahoo.com (Gary) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 08:13:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [AccessD] Deselect all items from a multi-Select list box In-Reply-To: <01C2FA98.31674660.bob@renaissancesiding.com> Message-ID: <20030404161302.61089.qmail@web10503.mail.yahoo.com> Thank you. --- Bob Gajewski wrote: > Gary > > There is a good starting point for this in the ADH97 > on pages 363-370. > > Regards, > Bob Gajewski > > On Friday, April 04, 2003 10:36 AM, Gary > [SMTP:gjgiever at yahoo.com] wrote: > > I forgot to note that the listbox is unbound > > > > > > --- Gary wrote: > > > I'm using Access97 on Windows XP. I have > developed > > > a > > > simple application to track which tables are > used by > > > various applications that I have developed. The > > > main > > > form has a multi-select listbox with all the > tables > > > > > > The main form is bound to the table with all the > > > applications. I select all the appropriate > tables > > > for > > > the application in the listbox then a command > button > > > adds all the selected tables to a third table > that > > > lists all the tables for each application. > > > > > > My problem is that when i navigate to another > > > application all the tables that I selected for > the > > > previous application are still selected. I can > go > > > through and manually deselt each item or close > the > > > form and reopen it. There must be an easier and > > > more > > > elegant way to clear the listbox. I researched > this > > > and found one other person who asked this > question > > > but > > > no one replied. It seems like it should be easy > to > > > do. > > > > > > Gary J. Giever, MA > > > ACCMHS > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, > forms, > > > and more > > > http://tax.yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > > AccessD mailing list > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > ===== > > Gary > > > > Some people are born on third base and go through > life thinking they hit a triple. > > Barry Switzer (1937 - ) > > > > Jesus loves you...then again, so does Barney > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, > forms, and more > > http://tax.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ===== Gary Some people are born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple. Barry Switzer (1937 - ) Jesus loves you...then again, so does Barney. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com From gjgiever at yahoo.com Fri Apr 4 10:14:57 2003 From: gjgiever at yahoo.com (Gary) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 08:14:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [AccessD] Deselect all items from a multi-Select list box In-Reply-To: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF40389765C@xlivmbx12.aig.com> Message-ID: <20030404161457.92348.qmail@web10507.mail.yahoo.com> Thank you. --- "Heenan, Lambert" wrote: > Here's another way to do it, which could be faster > depending on how many > items are in the list... > > Sub ClearListBox(lst As ListBox) > Dim sRowSource As String > sRowSource = lst.RowSource > lst.RowSource = "" ' no row source, so nothing > is selected > lst.RowSource = sRowSource > End Sub > > Lambert > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Gary [SMTP:gjgiever at yahoo.com] > > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 10:41 AM > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Deselect all items from a > multi-Select list > > box > > > > Thank you. I have managed to avoid using > multi-select > > listboxes for seven years so I never ran into this > > before. > > > > Gary > > > > > > --- Mike and Doris Manning > > wrote: > > > Dim lcv as Integer > > > > > > For lcv = 0 to MyListBox.ListCount - 1 > > > MyListBox.Selected(lcv) = False > > > Next lcv > > > > > > Doris Manning > > > Database Administrator > > > Hargrove Inc. > > > www.hargroveinc.com > > > > > > ===== > > Gary > > > > Some people are born on third base and go through > life thinking they hit a > > triple. > > Barry Switzer (1937 - ) > > > > Jesus loves you...then again, so does Barney. > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, > forms, and more > > http://tax.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ===== Gary Some people are born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple. Barry Switzer (1937 - ) Jesus loves you...then again, so does Barney. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com From Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Fri Apr 4 10:16:33 2003 From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK (Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 17:16:33 +0100 (BST) Subject: [AccessD] indexes in ADP In-Reply-To: <000f01c2fac2$7cbc7480$b615010a@FHTAPIA> References: <02e801c2fa46$b4bc4fd0$c8e6ffcc@SusanOne> <000f01c2fac2$7cbc7480$b615010a@FHTAPIA> Message-ID: <1049472993.3e8dafe178c0d@hosea.qub.ac.uk> As said the Idex is a function of the DBMS not the ADP. Just set them in the Table design or via EM. One clustered per table any number of non clustered. Martin Quoting Francisco H Tapia : > ADP's are nothing more than FE hooks to a Sql Server. Indexes are a > database function and therefor available through the sql server engine. > To > use Non/Clustered indexes you will have to specify them when in the > table > design view. If a table has a clustered index, and you access the db > via an > ADP that ADP makes calls to a sproc/view and IT (the sproc/view) uses > these > in the optimizer to access your data. Adp's do nothing more than > connect > and request the data. > > -Francisco > http://rcm.netfirms.com > > On Thursday, April 03, 2003 5:07 PM [GMT-8], > Susan Harkins wrote: > > : What kind of indexes does an ADP use -- clustered or non-clustered? > : I'm guessing clustered. > : > : Susan H. > : > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Fri Apr 4 10:36:30 2003 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 17:36:30 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humour In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002e01c2fac8$58910f20$b274d0d5@andypc> Brilliant. An organisation with a sense of humour. Not many of those about. Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] > Sent: 04 April 2003 15:22 > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humour > > That was wonderful! > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of > budge at magicaldesk.com > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 9:00 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humour > > > Why Google works so well! ;-) > > http://www.google.com/technology/pigeonrank.html > > Pamela > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Global Virtual Desktop > Get your free Desktop at http://www.magicaldesk.com > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. > Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com << File: ATT00029.txt >> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2580 bytes Desc: not available URL: From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Fri Apr 4 10:56:41 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 10:56:41 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humour Message-ID: Andy, Are you doubting the truth of that? Having been briefly a student of B. F. Skinner I assure you it is as workable as anything M$ tries to peddle to do it. And it sounds more cost effective than relying on any M$ solution. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey Sent: Friday 2003 Apr 04 10:37 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humour Brilliant. An organisation with a sense of humour. Not many of those about. Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Sent: 04 April 2003 15:22 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humour That was wonderful! John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of budge at magicaldesk.com Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 9:00 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humour Why Google works so well! ;-) http://www.google.com/technology/pigeonrank.html Pamela From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Fri Apr 4 11:13:22 2003 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 18:13:22 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humour In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003901c2facd$7f5aec20$b274d0d5@andypc> Sorry Charles. I missed that in the article. Are you saying these pigeons peddle too? Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Wortz, Charles > Sent: 04 April 2003 17:57 > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humour > > > Andy, > > Are you doubting the truth of that? Having been briefly a > student of B. F. Skinner I assure you it is as workable as > anything M$ tries to peddle to do it. And it sounds more > cost effective than relying on any M$ solution. > > Charles Wortz > Software Development Division > Texas Education Agency > 1701 N. Congress Ave > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > 512-463-9493 > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey > Sent: Friday 2003 Apr 04 10:37 > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humour > > Brilliant. An organisation with a sense of humour. Not many > of those about. > > Andy Lacey > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] > Sent: 04 April 2003 15:22 > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humour > > That was wonderful! > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of > budge at magicaldesk.com > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 9:00 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humour > > > Why Google works so well! ;-) > http://www.google.com/technology/pigeonrank.html Pamela _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From weeden1949 at hotmail.com Fri Apr 4 12:03:38 2003 From: weeden1949 at hotmail.com (Greg S) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 12:03:38 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] OT - My dog is dying References: Message-ID: John: Sorry to hear about your dog. You have my (and my family's) sympathy. We have two black labs and live out in the country (Iowa) but try to keep all their shots up to date because they're outside 100% of the time, and exposed to everything. I don't think one every gets used to having a pet die (we've buried 2 black labs), one from old age and a younger one from siezures, but I don't think we could get along without them. So as soon as the the younger one died (his brother was ok but he died suddenly and unexpectedly), we got another one from a farmer about 20 miles away, probably within two weeks. I don't think we could get along without'em. My sister raises English Mastiffs...and has 4 of them now...all INDOORS! Must run in our family... Greg Smith Janesville, Iowa From jimdettman at earthlink.net Fri Apr 4 13:00:41 2003 From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 14:00:41 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT - My dog is dying In-Reply-To: Message-ID: John, Very sorry to hear that. I've been through that a few times and it's rough as he**. We had a nine year old Golden that we had but to sleep about 3 years ago and to this day, I still question if we did the right thing. He was having severe seizures and were pretty sure he had cancer (had several lumps). The vet however was not positive and was talking about several thousand dollars worth of care just over a few days (he wanted to send him to Cornell). It was very heart wrenching as he was a large dog with a strong heart and needed several injections before he finally feel asleep. The vet had to get more each time and it felt like an eternity. My thoughts are with you. Jim jimdettman at earthlink.net PS. Just one point though; Lymes disease is typically carried by ticks. I don't think it's spread by fleas at all. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 9:19 AM To: AccessD Subject: [AccessD] OT - My dog is dying Not to ruin anyone's day, but anyone who has nothing to grieve about today can grieve with my family and I. This is really a warning to all you dog owners. My two blond labs got Lymes disease, which is a treatable micro-organism spread by fleas. The organism is known to "settle in" the kidneys and my 5 year old blond Lab Boca is dying because his kidneys are failing. We discovered that he had the disease when he stopped eating and we took him to the vet. There is a vaccine to prevent the disease. Why it is not publicized I don't know but I didn't find out until too late. This disease is an epidemic in the northeast and is spreading across the US. If you have dogs and live in an area where the disease is known to exist, think about getting them the vaccine. There is nothing more heart wrenching than watching your dog die knowing that you could have prevented it. 8-( John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------- Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Fri Apr 4 13:13:21 2003 From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK (Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 20:13:21 +0100 (BST) Subject: [AccessD] BElfast In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1049483601.3e8dd9519075e@hosea.qub.ac.uk> See George is coming to Belfast next week. Martin From Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Fri Apr 4 13:14:08 2003 From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK (Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 20:14:08 +0100 (BST) Subject: [AccessD] OT Belfast - Sorry In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1049483648.3e8dd98047510@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Apologies That message was supposed to go to OT. Martin From Kenneth.Stoker at pnl.gov Fri Apr 4 13:18:20 2003 From: Kenneth.Stoker at pnl.gov (Stoker, Kenneth E) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 11:18:20 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] How can I tell which version of MDAC I have installed Message-ID: <249C1CB246997C48BB74963CCD361C1B69B719@pnlmse28.pnl.gov> Everyone, How can I tell was version of MDAC is installed on a machine? I can find the files and see the references but nothing tells me what version it is. Thanks Ken Stoker Technology Commercialization Information Systems Administrator PH: (509) 375-3758 FAX: (509) 375-6731 E-mail: Kenneth.Stoker at pnl.gov From jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com Fri Apr 4 13:25:26 2003 From: jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com (jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 13:25:26 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] How can I tell which version of MDAC I have installed Message-ID: Ken, MartyConnelly sent me this link last week. MDAC Component Checker http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=8F0A8DF6-4A21-4B43-BF53-14332EF092C9&displaylang=en "Stoker, Kenneth E" Sent by: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 04/04/2003 01:18 PM Please respond to accessd To: "dba-AccessD (E-mail)" cc: Subject: [AccessD] How can I tell which version of MDAC I have installed Everyone, How can I tell was version of MDAC is installed on a machine? I can find the files and see the references but nothing tells me what version it is. Thanks Ken Stoker Technology Commercialization Information Systems Administrator PH: (509) 375-3758 FAX: (509) 375-6731 E-mail: Kenneth.Stoker at pnl.gov _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lyle.hannum at co.wake.nc.us Fri Apr 4 13:28:51 2003 From: lyle.hannum at co.wake.nc.us (lyle.hannum at co.wake.nc.us) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 14:28:51 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] How can I tell which version of MDAC I have installed Message-ID: Check out kb article 301202 on msdn.microsoft.com Lyle "Stoker, Kenneth E" To: "dba-AccessD (E-mail)" Sent by: accessd-bounces at databasead cc: visors.com Subject: [AccessD] How can I tell which version of MDAC I have installed 04/04/03 02:18 PM Please respond to accessd Everyone, How can I tell was version of MDAC is installed on a machine? I can find the files and see the references but nothing tells me what version it is. Thanks Ken Stoker Technology Commercialization Information Systems Administrator PH: (509) 375-3758 FAX: (509) 375-6731 E-mail: Kenneth.Stoker at pnl.gov _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Fri Apr 4 13:29:48 2003 From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK (Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 20:29:48 +0100 (BST) Subject: [AccessD] How can I tell which version of MDAC I have installed In-Reply-To: <249C1CB246997C48BB74963CCD361C1B69B719@pnlmse28.pnl.gov> References: <249C1CB246997C48BB74963CCD361C1B69B719@pnlmse28.pnl.gov> Message-ID: <1049484588.3e8ddd2c6325a@hosea.qub.ac.uk> of the web using ADO 'Returns an empty string is ADO is not installed Dim o As Object On Error Resume Next Set o = CreateObject("ADODB.Connection") If Err.Number = 0 then GetAdoVersion = o.Version Else 'ADO is not installed End If Quoting "Stoker, Kenneth E" : > Everyone, > > How can I tell was version of MDAC is installed on a machine? I can > find the files and see the references but nothing tells me what version > it is. > > Thanks > > Ken Stoker > Technology Commercialization > Information Systems Administrator > PH: (509) 375-3758 > FAX: (509) 375-6731 > E-mail: Kenneth.Stoker at pnl.gov > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From reuben at gfconsultants.com Fri Apr 4 13:41:44 2003 From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 14:41:44 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT - My dog is dying In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I feel your pain. It's terrible to lose an animal. I learned the hard way that all three doctors at the vet I use take lunch at the same time. I had a bull dog that went every where with me, including here to the office every day. My wife even had to sit in the back seat of my truck because the passenger seat was for Maddie (the dog). One day (actually April 16, 2001) everyone here was at lunch and my wife (Robin) stopped by during lunch to use a computer. She let Maddie out and she got hit. Fortunately, someone that saw it followed her back to the office door to tell Robin what happened. Robin called me and immediately took Maddie to the vet. However, all three doctors were eating lunch and didn't get there for about 30 minutes. So Robin and I had to sit there and watch her die while we waited on the vet. She died about 2 minutes after he showed up. I still have her picture on my desk and in my wallet. Now my son who is almost 4 is wanting a new Maddie. Reuben Cummings Director of Software Development GFC, LLC phone: 812.523.1017 email: reuben at gfconsultants.com > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Dettman > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 2:01 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - My dog is dying > > > John, > > Very sorry to hear that. I've been through that a few times and it's > rough as he**. We had a nine year old Golden that we had but to > sleep about > 3 years ago and to this day, I still question if we did the right > thing. He > was having severe seizures and were pretty sure he had cancer (had several > lumps). The vet however was not positive and was talking about several > thousand dollars worth of care just over a few days (he wanted to send him > to Cornell). It was very heart wrenching as he was a large dog with a > strong heart and needed several injections before he finally feel asleep. > The vet had to get more each time and it felt like an eternity. > > My thoughts are with you. > > Jim > jimdettman at earthlink.net > > PS. Just one point though; Lymes disease is typically carried by > ticks. I > don't think it's spread by fleas at all. > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 9:19 AM > To: AccessD > Subject: [AccessD] OT - My dog is dying > > > Not to ruin anyone's day, but anyone who has nothing to grieve about today > can grieve with my family and I. > > This is really a warning to all you dog owners. My two blond > labs got Lymes > disease, which is a treatable micro-organism spread by fleas. > The organism > is known to "settle in" the kidneys and my 5 year old blond Lab Boca is > dying because his kidneys are failing. We discovered that he had the > disease when he stopped eating and we took him to the vet. There is a > vaccine to prevent the disease. Why it is not publicized I don't > know but I > didn't find out until too late. > > This disease is an epidemic in the northeast and is spreading > across the US. > If you have dogs and live in an area where the disease is known to exist, > think about getting them the vaccine. There is nothing more > heart wrenching > than watching your dog die knowing that you could have prevented it. > > 8-( > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. > Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From bheid at appdevgrp.com Fri Apr 4 14:07:17 2003 From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 15:07:17 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT - My dog is dying Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30332FB2@ADGSERVER> Ok ya'll. I'm putting everyone here on notice that I am not reading ANY more of these. I can take a few, but it's getting too much. Bobby -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Reuben Cummings Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 2:42 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - My dog is dying I feel your pain. It's terrible to lose an animal. I learned the hard way that all three doctors at the vet I use take lunch at the same time. I had a bull dog that went every where with me, including here to the office every day. My wife even had to sit in the back seat of my truck because the passenger seat was for Maddie (the dog). One day (actually April 16, 2001) everyone here was at lunch and my wife (Robin) stopped by during lunch to use a computer. She let Maddie out and she got hit. Fortunately, someone that saw it followed her back to the office door to tell Robin what happened. Robin called me and immediately took Maddie to the vet. However, all three doctors were eating lunch and didn't get there for about 30 minutes. So Robin and I had to sit there and watch her die while we waited on the vet. She died about 2 minutes after he showed up. I still have her picture on my desk and in my wallet. Now my son who is almost 4 is wanting a new Maddie. Reuben Cummings Director of Software Development GFC, LLC phone: 812.523.1017 email: reuben at gfconsultants.com From jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com Fri Apr 4 14:27:17 2003 From: jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 15:27:17 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT - My dog is dying In-Reply-To: Message-ID: correct, I mis spoke. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Dettman Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 2:01 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - My dog is dying John, Very sorry to hear that. I've been through that a few times and it's rough as he**. We had a nine year old Golden that we had but to sleep about 3 years ago and to this day, I still question if we did the right thing. He was having severe seizures and were pretty sure he had cancer (had several lumps). The vet however was not positive and was talking about several thousand dollars worth of care just over a few days (he wanted to send him to Cornell). It was very heart wrenching as he was a large dog with a strong heart and needed several injections before he finally feel asleep. The vet had to get more each time and it felt like an eternity. My thoughts are with you. Jim jimdettman at earthlink.net PS. Just one point though; Lymes disease is typically carried by ticks. I don't think it's spread by fleas at all. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 9:19 AM To: AccessD Subject: [AccessD] OT - My dog is dying Not to ruin anyone's day, but anyone who has nothing to grieve about today can grieve with my family and I. This is really a warning to all you dog owners. My two blond labs got Lymes disease, which is a treatable micro-organism spread by fleas. The organism is known to "settle in" the kidneys and my 5 year old blond Lab Boca is dying because his kidneys are failing. We discovered that he had the disease when he stopped eating and we took him to the vet. There is a vaccine to prevent the disease. Why it is not publicized I don't know but I didn't find out until too late. This disease is an epidemic in the northeast and is spreading across the US. If you have dogs and live in an area where the disease is known to exist, think about getting them the vaccine. There is nothing more heart wrenching than watching your dog die knowing that you could have prevented it. 8-( John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------- Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ---------------------------------------------------- Is email taking over your day? 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MDAC Component Checker http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=8F0A8DF6-4A21-4B43-BF53-14332EF092C9&displaylang=en "Stoker, Kenneth E" Sent by: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 04/04/2003 01:18 PM Please respond to accessd To: "dba-AccessD (E-mail)" cc: Subject: [AccessD] How can I tell which version of MDAC I have installed Everyone, How can I tell was version of MDAC is installed on a machine? I can find the files and see the references but nothing tells me what version it is. Thanks Ken Stoker Technology Commercialization Information Systems Administrator PH: (509) 375-3758 FAX: (509) 375-6731 E-mail: Kenneth.Stoker at pnl.gov _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Ken Stoker Technology Commercialization Information Systems Administrator PH: (509) 375-3758 FAX: (509) 375-6731 E-mail: Kenneth.Stoker at pnl.gov -----Original Message----- From: Mwp.Reid at queens-belfast.ac.uk [mailto:Mwp.Reid at queens-belfast.ac.uk] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 11:30 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] How can I tell which version of MDAC I have installed of the web using ADO 'Returns an empty string is ADO is not installed Dim o As Object On Error Resume Next Set o = CreateObject("ADODB.Connection") If Err.Number = 0 then GetAdoVersion = o.Version Else 'ADO is not installed End If Quoting "Stoker, Kenneth E" : > Everyone, > > How can I tell was version of MDAC is installed on a machine? I can > find the files and see the references but nothing tells me what version > it is. > > Thanks > > Ken Stoker > Technology Commercialization > Information Systems Administrator > PH: (509) 375-3758 > FAX: (509) 375-6731 > E-mail: Kenneth.Stoker at pnl.gov > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rob at consulting.com.au Fri Apr 4 21:21:39 2003 From: rob at consulting.com.au (Rob Chivers) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 11:21:39 +0800 Subject: [AccessD] export dates using transfertext A2K Message-ID: Hi I am exporting from a table to a text file with dates but keep getting the time in the exported date even though it doesn?t appear in the table. I have tried setting the date to dd-mmm-yyyy in table field but works on 1 table but not on another table. I have manually set up an export specification (eg ExportLeaseSpecification ) for each table using ; delimiter and none for text qualifier and : for time separator. Code is: ?following queries export to tmpPASwinExportLease and has 3 date fields with format dd-mmm-yyyy DoCmd.OpenQuery "qappExportLeaseHeader" DoCmd.OpenQuery "qappExportLease" ExportPASwinFile "ExportLeaseSpecification", "tmpExportLease", "ExportLease.txt" The export works fine but results in 17;21/03/2003;555;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; 1;N;070;ca;;;;2;12/04/1999;11/4/2004 0:00:00;;;;0;;;;;;;28/3/2003 14:10:56; 2;N;070;cip;;;;2;1/07/2000;30/6/2004 0:00:00;;;;0;;;;;;;28/3/2003 14:10:56; and what I want is 17;21/03/2003;555;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; 1;N;070;ca;;;;2;12/04/1999;11/4/2004;;;;0;;;;;;;28/3/2003; 2;N;070;cip;;;;2;1/07/2000;30/6/2004;;;;0;;;;;;;28/3/2003; Can anybody help? Thanks Rob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Sat Apr 5 00:39:59 2003 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2003 16:39:59 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] export dates using transfertext A2K In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3E8F06DF.20594.761D3@localhost> Don't export a date, export a text string. In your queries, create your fields as Fomat$(myDateField,"dd-mmm-yy") On 5 Apr 2003 at 11:21, Rob Chivers wrote: > Hi > I am exporting from a table to a text file with dates but keep getting > the time in the exported date even though it doesn?t appear in the > table. I have tried setting the date to dd-mmm-yyyy in table field but > works on 1 table but not on another table. I have manually set up an > export specification (eg ExportLeaseSpecification ) for each table > using ; delimiter and none for text qualifier and : for time > separator. > > Code is: > ?following queries export to tmpPASwinExportLease and has 3 date > fields with format dd-mmm-yyyy > DoCmd.OpenQuery "qappExportLeaseHeader" > DoCmd.OpenQuery "qappExportLease" > ExportPASwinFile "ExportLeaseSpecification", "tmpExportLease", > "ExportLease.txt" > > The export works fine but results in > > 17;21/03/2003;555;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; > 1;N;070;ca;;;;2;12/04/1999;11/4/2004 0:00:00;;;;0;;;;;;;28/3/2003 > 14:10:56; 2;N;070;cip;;;;2;1/07/2000;30/6/2004 > 0:00:00;;;;0;;;;;;;28/3/2003 14:10:56; > > and what I want is > > 17;21/03/2003;555;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; > 1;N;070;ca;;;;2;12/04/1999;11/4/2004;;;;0;;;;;;;28/3/2003; > 2;N;070;cip;;;;2;1/07/2000;30/6/2004;;;;0;;;;;;;28/3/2003; > > Can anybody help? > > Thanks > Rob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. From scotttgage at yahoo.com Sat Apr 5 09:43:42 2003 From: scotttgage at yahoo.com (Scott Gage) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 07:43:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [AccessD] Application Icon issue In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030405154342.43786.qmail@web10407.mail.yahoo.com> I want associate an Icon with my .mdb. I went to Tool/Startup and pointed to the Icon that I created in the Application Icon field but it isn't working. What am I doing wrong? ===== -------------------- Scott T. Gage Scott.gage at promedica.org 419.291-7177 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com From jjwrite at earthlink.net Sat Apr 5 10:39:10 2003 From: jjwrite at earthlink.net (Judy Johnson) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 11:39:10 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Send Report to PDF Writer Message-ID: <412003465163910820@earthlink.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Sat Apr 5 10:47:33 2003 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 17:47:33 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Application Icon issue In-Reply-To: <20030405154342.43786.qmail@web10407.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000401c2fb93$0e5aef40$b274d0d5@andypc> You're not testing the MDB by holding down the Left Shift when opening your MDB are you? That bypasses startup including the icon. Other than that it should work. Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Scott Gage > Sent: 05 April 2003 16:44 > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Application Icon issue > > > I want associate an Icon with my .mdb. I went to > Tool/Startup and pointed to the Icon that I created in > the Application Icon field but it isn't working. What > am I doing wrong? > > ===== > -------------------- > Scott T. Gage > Scott.gage at promedica.org > 419.291-7177 > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From scotttgage at yahoo.com Sat Apr 5 13:49:37 2003 From: scotttgage at yahoo.com (Scott Gage) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 11:49:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: [AccessD] Application Icon issue In-Reply-To: <000401c2fb93$0e5aef40$b274d0d5@andypc> Message-ID: <20030405194937.76640.qmail@web10411.mail.yahoo.com> No I'm not. I open the file up normaly. The application path is correct but the Icon still looks like MSAccess. ===== -------------------- Scott T. Gage Scott.gage at promedica.org 419.291-7177 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com From harkins at iglou.com Sat Apr 5 14:19:17 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 15:19:17 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] peculiar casing in VBE Message-ID: <00a301c2fbb0$a3d90580$294afccc@SusanOne> Set cmdbar = Application.commandbars("Edit") =======Regarding the above -- why does the VBE lowercase commandbars? I keep trying to change it, but it always overrides my changes. Odd one. Susan H. From caa at highway.com.br Sat Apr 5 14:24:17 2003 From: caa at highway.com.br (Carlos Alberto Alves) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2003 17:24:17 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] OT - PHP Message-ID: Anybody there programming PHP with backend in MySQL or PostgreSQL??? Please contact me offline, I would like to ask some questions. ;-) -- ************************************** * Carlos Alberto Alves * * Child Neurologist * * Systems Analyst/Programmer * * Rio de Janeiro, Brazil * * mailto:caa at highway.com.br * * http://igspot.ig.com.br/forefront/ * ************************************** From caa at highway.com.br Sat Apr 5 14:24:18 2003 From: caa at highway.com.br (Carlos Alberto Alves) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2003 17:24:18 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] Office 11 BETA testers In-Reply-To: <035901c2f912$3f8b5a60$8e01a8c0@Rock> References: <035901c2f912$3f8b5a60$8e01a8c0@Rock> Message-ID: On Wed, 2 Apr 2003 07:20:28 -0500, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I am and have installed everything, but have only looked at about half > the > pieces. I am sure many of us would like to hear your comments on Access new features, performance, file format and so on!!! :) -- ************************************** * Carlos Alberto Alves * * Child Neurologist * * Systems Analyst/Programmer * * Rio de Janeiro, Brazil * * mailto:caa at highway.com.br * * http://igspot.ig.com.br/forefront/ * ************************************** From caa at highway.com.br Sat Apr 5 14:24:22 2003 From: caa at highway.com.br (Carlos Alberto Alves) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2003 17:24:22 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] Review of tables In-Reply-To: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A08ECB132@exchange.pgdp> References: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A08ECB132@exchange.pgdp> Message-ID: On Thu, 03 Apr 2003 14:46:59 -0600, Hollis,Virginia wrote: > Would someone mind reviewing my table designs? I need someone to see if I > am > on the right track and if there are any issues I may have missed > covering. > I can send what I have offline, it is in A2K. > Virginia > No problem! Send them offline. :) -- ************************************** * Carlos Alberto Alves * * Child Neurologist * * Systems Analyst/Programmer * * Rio de Janeiro, Brazil * * mailto:caa at highway.com.br * * http://igspot.ig.com.br/forefront/ * ************************************** From Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Sat Apr 5 14:34:41 2003 From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK (Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2003 21:34:41 +0100 (BST) Subject: [AccessD] OT - PHP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1049574881.3e8f3de19f701@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Carlos One of the guys in work is a PHP programmer. IF oyu want to past me the questions I am happy to pass on to him. Maritn Quoting Carlos Alberto Alves : > Anybody there programming PHP with backend in MySQL or PostgreSQL??? > Please contact me offline, I would like to ask some questions. ;-) > > -- > ************************************** > * Carlos Alberto Alves * > * Child Neurologist * > * Systems Analyst/Programmer * > * Rio de Janeiro, Brazil * > * mailto:caa at highway.com.br * > * http://igspot.ig.com.br/forefront/ * > ************************************** > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From harkins at iglou.com Sat Apr 5 14:40:50 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 15:40:50 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Office 11 BETA testers References: <035901c2f912$3f8b5a60$8e01a8c0@Rock> Message-ID: <00cb01c2fbb3$a90351c0$294afccc@SusanOne> http://accessvbsqladvisor.com/doc/11851 http://accessvbsqladvisor.com/doc/11770 Susan H. > > I am sure many of us would like to hear your comments on Access new > features, performance, file format and so on!!! :) From chris at denverdb.com Sat Apr 5 14:59:20 2003 From: chris at denverdb.com (Chris Mackin) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 13:59:20 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] peculiar casing in VBE In-Reply-To: <00a301c2fbb0$a3d90580$294afccc@SusanOne> Message-ID: Most likely you created a variable called "commandBars" somewhere along the way, It capatalizes it when I drop your code into a module. To fix just type: Dim CommandBars and hit enter, all instances of commandBars will capatalize. Chris Mackin www.denverdb.com Denver Database Consulting, LLC -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 1:19 PM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] peculiar casing in VBE Set cmdbar = Application.commandbars("Edit") =======Regarding the above -- why does the VBE lowercase commandbars? I keep trying to change it, but it always overrides my changes. Odd one. Susan H. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From harkins at iglou.com Sat Apr 5 15:09:47 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 16:09:47 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] peculiar casing in VBE References: Message-ID: <010201c2fbb8$30f015b0$294afccc@SusanOne> Oh! I found it -- the database is named commandbar -- how curious! ;) That should take care of it. Thanks! Susan H. > Most likely you created a variable called "commandBars" somewhere along the > way, It capatalizes it when I drop your code into a module. > > To fix just type: > Dim CommandBars > and hit enter, all instances of commandBars will capatalize. > From harkins at iglou.com Sat Apr 5 15:28:39 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 16:28:39 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] command bar question Message-ID: <011201c2fbba$5532b2f0$294afccc@SusanOne> Using the simple loop to return menu commands. Now, Private Sub Form_Load() Dim cmdbar As CommandBar For Each cmdbar In CommandBars Debug.Print cmdbar.Name Next End Sub Now, how do I tell which is the actual menu bar name -- such as Database, Print Preview, etc. and which is a menu command (top level). I want to be specific about the menu bar being named for changes, and right now, I'm not even sure that's necessary -- if this will loop through all and find the menu command I want, should be enough? Do I need to control the whole process by matching a menu bar name first? Susan H. From tracy at ak.planet.gen.nz Sat Apr 5 17:52:45 2003 From: tracy at ak.planet.gen.nz (Tracy) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 11:52:45 +1200 Subject: [AccessD] Office 2000 SR1a - ouch !! Message-ID: <000a01c2fbce$7548df60$8a4114ca@Notebook> Hi Listers I've just had a hard disk go bad (no data lost luckily), I've reinstalled Office 2000, went and applied the service release 1a and OUCH. When I try opening any Excel or Access files the app immediately quits. Word weems Ok thou. Has anybody struck this ? I vaguely remember that SR1 had bugs but SR1a fixed them and SR1a replaced SR1. Can anybody offer any help. Cheers Tracy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From harkins at iglou.com Sat Apr 5 20:03:06 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 21:03:06 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] more questions on command bars Message-ID: <002101c2fbe0$cbfd0cc0$364afccc@SusanOne> The following function lists the commands on the active menu bar -- my question is about the visible/invisible commands? If you remove the If that checks for the Visible property you get a huge list of commands, some I don't even recognize. What are these invisible commands? Susan H. Function NameMenuCommands() Dim menubar As CommandBar Dim menucommand As CommandBarPopup 'Dim menucommand As CommandBar Set menubar = CommandBars.ActiveMenuBar For Each menucommand In menubar.Controls If menucommand.Visible = True Then Debug.Print menucommand.CommandBar.Name End If Next End Function From michael.mattys at adelphia.net Sat Apr 5 22:19:27 2003 From: michael.mattys at adelphia.net (Michael R Mattys) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 23:19:27 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] more questions on command bars References: <002101c2fbe0$cbfd0cc0$364afccc@SusanOne> Message-ID: <006201c2fbf3$b7956080$6401a8c0@default> Susan, I will guess that you created new CommandBarControls without setting the .Caption property. Try hovering your mouse over the ActiveMenuBar and you may see that the Custom Popup #### is there. If you had set Temporary to true then just closing the database will remove them. Otherwise, right click on the ActiveMenuBar, click Customize and then right- click on the captionless buttons and click Delete. Michael R. Mattys www.mattysconsulting.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Harkins" To: Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 9:03 PM Subject: [AccessD] more questions on command bars > The following function lists the commands on the active menu bar -- my > question is about the visible/invisible commands? If you remove the If that > checks for the Visible property you get a huge list of commands, some I > don't even recognize. What are these invisible commands? > > Susan H. > > > Function NameMenuCommands() > Dim menubar As CommandBar > Dim menucommand As CommandBarPopup > 'Dim menucommand As CommandBar > Set menubar = CommandBars.ActiveMenuBar > For Each menucommand In menubar.Controls > If menucommand.Visible = True Then > Debug.Print menucommand.CommandBar.Name > End If > Next > End Function > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From harkins at iglou.com Sat Apr 5 22:44:23 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 23:44:23 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] more questions on command bars References: <002101c2fbe0$cbfd0cc0$364afccc@SusanOne> <006201c2fbf3$b7956080$6401a8c0@default> Message-ID: <005701c2fbf7$34b07a70$364afccc@SusanOne> There are no custom controls or toolbars -- I'm working strictly with the application menu bar "Menu Bar" and I've not created any new menu items for it. Thanks -- that's kind of an insightful answer you gave though. :) SUsan H. > Susan, > > I will guess that you created new CommandBarControls > without setting the .Caption property. Try hovering your > mouse over the ActiveMenuBar and you may see that > the Custom Popup #### is there. > > If you had set Temporary to true then just closing the > database will remove them. Otherwise, right click on > the ActiveMenuBar, click Customize and then right- > click on the captionless buttons and click Delete. > > Michael R. Mattys > www.mattysconsulting.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan Harkins" > To: > Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 9:03 PM > Subject: [AccessD] more questions on command bars > > > > The following function lists the commands on the active menu bar -- my > > question is about the visible/invisible commands? If you remove the If > that > > checks for the Visible property you get a huge list of commands, some I > > don't even recognize. What are these invisible commands? > > > > Susan H. > > > > > > Function NameMenuCommands() > > Dim menubar As CommandBar > > Dim menucommand As CommandBarPopup > > 'Dim menucommand As CommandBar > > Set menubar = CommandBars.ActiveMenuBar > > For Each menucommand In menubar.Controls > > If menucommand.Visible = True Then > > Debug.Print menucommand.CommandBar.Name > > End If > > Next > > End Function > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From bchacc at san.rr.com Sat Apr 5 23:44:41 2003 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 21:44:41 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Office 11 BETA testers References: <035901c2f912$3f8b5a60$8e01a8c0@Rock> <00cb01c2fbb3$a90351c0$294afccc@SusanOne> Message-ID: <016e01c2fbff$9e6f4600$6501a8c0@HAL9002> Pro subscriber only. Gotta pay if you want to play. Can we have the Cliff notes? Rocky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Harkins" To: Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Office 11 BETA testers > http://accessvbsqladvisor.com/doc/11851 > http://accessvbsqladvisor.com/doc/11770 > > Susan H. > > > > > > I am sure many of us would like to hear your comments on Access new > > features, performance, file format and so on!!! :) > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From bchacc at san.rr.com Sun Apr 6 12:36:40 2003 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 10:36:40 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Stop That Code! Message-ID: <007001c2fc63$153b39c0$6501a8c0@HAL9002> Dear List: I have some processes in an app which take a while to execute. I generally put something on the screen to show the user that progress is being made. I'd like to give them the capability to abort the process by pressing the ESC key. Maybe they used data selection criteria to select 12 records and instead selected 12,000. Or made a mistake starting a long cost roll up or calculation which they'd like to abort. What's the simplest way to accomplish this? MTIA, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 6 12:56:08 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 13:56:08 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Stop That Code! References: <007001c2fc63$153b39c0$6501a8c0@HAL9002> Message-ID: <006201c2fc65$cd69e1c0$6101a8c0@amd2k512> ...if records are being changed, transaction processing is the only safe way to accomplish it since you need to be able to safely back out of any changes made ...afaik transaction processing is supported natively in Access only in Jet4/ADO apps and even then its pretty basic functionality ...with DAO or A97, you either roll your own or switch to a SQL Server be where transaction processing support is both rich and native ...having rolled my own Access transaction processing before, I can promise you that its a pita ...HTH :) William Hindman "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill ----- Original Message ----- From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 1:36 PM Subject: [AccessD] Stop That Code! Dear List: I have some processes in an app which take a while to execute. I generally put something on the screen to show the user that progress is being made. I'd like to give them the capability to abort the process by pressing the ESC key. Maybe they used data selection criteria to select 12 records and instead selected 12,000. Or made a mistake starting a long cost roll up or calculation which they'd like to abort. What's the simplest way to accomplish this? MTIA, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bchacc at san.rr.com Sun Apr 6 13:57:58 2003 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 11:57:58 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Stop That Code! References: <007001c2fc63$153b39c0$6501a8c0@HAL9002> <006201c2fc65$cd69e1c0$6101a8c0@amd2k512> Message-ID: <009201c2fc6e$713b0290$6501a8c0@HAL9002> No transaction processing. Mostly just report generation. Cost roll-up and MRP calculations have no transactions either. Rocky ----- Original Message ----- From: William Hindman To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stop That Code! ...if records are being changed, transaction processing is the only safe way to accomplish it since you need to be able to safely back out of any changes made ...afaik transaction processing is supported natively in Access only in Jet4/ADO apps and even then its pretty basic functionality ...with DAO or A97, you either roll your own or switch to a SQL Server be where transaction processing support is both rich and native ...having rolled my own Access transaction processing before, I can promise you that its a pita ...HTH :) William Hindman "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill ----- Original Message ----- From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 1:36 PM Subject: [AccessD] Stop That Code! Dear List: I have some processes in an app which take a while to execute. I generally put something on the screen to show the user that progress is being made. I'd like to give them the capability to abort the process by pressing the ESC key. Maybe they used data selection criteria to select 12 records and instead selected 12,000. Or made a mistake starting a long cost roll up or calculation which they'd like to abort. What's the simplest way to accomplish this? MTIA, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com Sun Apr 6 18:43:49 2003 From: jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 19:43:49 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Stop That Code! In-Reply-To: <007001c2fc63$153b39c0$6501a8c0@HAL9002> Message-ID: Rocky, This may or may not be possible. If you are running a loop that updates records in code (using recordsets) then wrap it in transactions and add keyboard handling to look for the escape and running a message box asking if the user wants to abort. If answer yes, then rollback (or don't commit) and exit. If you are running a query to update these same records, it isn't possible to break in the middle. Access simply doesn't allow that. Even if you have a function that is called by the query, if the user continues (which they must) the query picks right back up where it was updating the next record. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 1:37 PM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Stop That Code! Dear List: I have some processes in an app which take a while to execute. I generally put something on the screen to show the user that progress is being made. I'd like to give them the capability to abort the process by pressing the ESC key. Maybe they used data selection criteria to select 12 records and instead selected 12,000. Or made a mistake starting a long cost roll up or calculation which they'd like to abort. What's the simplest way to accomplish this? MTIA, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From papparuff at attbi.com Sun Apr 6 19:26:48 2003 From: papparuff at attbi.com (John Ruff) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 17:26:48 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Stop That Code! In-Reply-To: <007001c2fc63$153b39c0$6501a8c0@HAL9002> Message-ID: <00f901c2fc9c$610fd340$6401a8c0@papparuff> Rocky, You can use DoEvents and a "Cancel" button. Create a Cancel button (cmdCancel) and when you press it, place the word "Cancel" in the button's Tag Property. Also, in the button that begins the processing place a line of code before the processing starts that says cmdCancel.Tag="". This way, if you have cancelled the process and want to restart it, the cancel button's tag property is reset. If you are running queries, just after each query add two lines of code DoEvents If cmdCancel.Tag="Cancel" then Exit ' (or a GoTo Exit Label) If you are running a loop then add the same two lines just after you start the loop For i = 1 to Total DoEvents If cmdCancel.Tag="Cancel" then Exit ' (or a GoTo Exit Label) ... Next i or Do while not rs.eof DoEvents If cmdCancel.Tag="Cancel" then Exit ' (or a GoTo Exit Label) ... loop As JC stated, you cannot stop a query once it has started, but you can stop a process immediately after a query has finished. I've used this procedure quite a bit to do exactly what you are trying to do. John V. Ruff - The Eternal Optimist :-) Always Looking For Contract Opportunities "Commit to the Lord whatever you do, and your plans will succeed." Proverbs 16:3 -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 10:37 AM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Stop That Code! Dear List: I have some processes in an app which take a while to execute. I generally put something on the screen to show the user that progress is being made. I'd like to give them the capability to abort the process by pressing the ESC key. Maybe they used data selection criteria to select 12 records and instead selected 12,000. Or made a mistake starting a long cost roll up or calculation which they'd like to abort. What's the simplest way to accomplish this? MTIA, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lexacorp at global.net.pg Sun Apr 6 19:31:52 2003 From: lexacorp at global.net.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 10:31:52 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Stop That Code! Message-ID: <3e90c6f8.bd25.471103441@global.net.pg> > > Dear List: > > I have some processes in an app which take a while to > execute. I generally put something on the screen to show > the user that progress is being made. I'd like to give > them the capability to abort the process by pressing the > ESC key. Maybe they used data selection criteria to > select 12 records and instead selected 12,000. Or made a > mistake starting a long cost roll up or calculation which > they'd like to abort. > What's the simplest way to accomplish this? > DoEvents and a flag: As an example, put a text box (txtDisplay) and two buttons on a form and paste this into it: Option Compare Database Option Explicit Dim flgFinish As Boolean Private Sub Command0_Click() flgFinish = True End Sub Private Sub Command1_Click() Dim Counter As Long Do Counter = Counter + 1 txtDisplay = Counter DoEvents Loop Until flgFinish flgFinish = False End Sub -------------------------------------- This Email Was brought to you by WebMail A Netwin Web Based EMail Client http://netwinsite.com/webmail/tag.htm From bchacc at san.rr.com Sun Apr 6 19:44:45 2003 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 17:44:45 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Stop That Code! References: <00f901c2fc9c$610fd340$6401a8c0@papparuff> Message-ID: <012f01c2fc9e$e2ace850$6501a8c0@HAL9002> MessageJohn: Brilliant! Simple and effective. Many thanks. Rocky ----- Original Message ----- From: John Ruff To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 5:26 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Stop That Code! Rocky, You can use DoEvents and a "Cancel" button. Create a Cancel button (cmdCancel) and when you press it, place the word "Cancel" in the button's Tag Property. Also, in the button that begins the processing place a line of code before the processing starts that says cmdCancel.Tag="". This way, if you have cancelled the process and want to restart it, the cancel button's tag property is reset. If you are running queries, just after each query add two lines of code DoEvents If cmdCancel.Tag="Cancel" then Exit ' (or a GoTo Exit Label) If you are running a loop then add the same two lines just after you start the loop For i = 1 to Total DoEvents If cmdCancel.Tag="Cancel" then Exit ' (or a GoTo Exit Label) ... Next i or Do while not rs.eof DoEvents If cmdCancel.Tag="Cancel" then Exit ' (or a GoTo Exit Label) ... loop As JC stated, you cannot stop a query once it has started, but you can stop a process immediately after a query has finished. I've used this procedure quite a bit to do exactly what you are trying to do. John V. Ruff - The Eternal Optimist J Always Looking For Contract Opportunities "Commit to the Lord whatever you do, and your plans will succeed." Proverbs 16:3 -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 10:37 AM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Stop That Code! Dear List: I have some processes in an app which take a while to execute. I generally put something on the screen to show the user that progress is being made. I'd like to give them the capability to abort the process by pressing the ESC key. Maybe they used data selection criteria to select 12 records and instead selected 12,000. Or made a mistake starting a long cost roll up or calculation which they'd like to abort. What's the simplest way to accomplish this? MTIA, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lexacorp at global.net.pg Sun Apr 6 19:49:12 2003 From: lexacorp at global.net.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 10:49:12 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Stop That Code! Message-ID: <3e90cb08.c331.1370690209@global.net.pg> Just noticed the Esc key requirement. Add this to the previous: Set Key Preview for the form ON then Private Sub Form_KeyPress(KeyAscii As Integer) If KeyAscii = 27 Then flgFinish = True End If End Sub > > show the user that progress is being made. I'd like to > > give them the capability to abort the process by > > pressing the ESC key. Maybe they used data selection .... > DoEvents and a flag: > > As an example, put a text box (txtDisplay) and two buttons > on a form and paste this into it: > > Option Compare Database > Option Explicit > > Dim flgFinish As Boolean > > Private Sub Command0_Click() > flgFinish = True > End Sub > > Private Sub Command1_Click() > Dim Counter As Long > Do > Counter = Counter + 1 > txtDisplay = Counter > DoEvents > Loop Until flgFinish > flgFinish = False > End Sub > -------------------------------------- > This Email Was brought to you by > WebMail > A Netwin Web Based EMail Client > http://netwinsite.com/webmail/tag.htm > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------------------------------- This Email Was brought to you by WebMail A Netwin Web Based EMail Client http://netwinsite.com/webmail/tag.htm From bchacc at san.rr.com Sun Apr 6 19:49:52 2003 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 17:49:52 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Stop That Code! References: <3e90c6f8.bd25.471103441@global.net.pg> Message-ID: <013501c2fc9f$9ba2c2d0$6501a8c0@HAL9002> Stuart: Thanks. This will work like John's only without the tag property. I've never used Tag before. Any advantage to either approach? Rocky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart McLachlan" To: Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stop That Code! > > > > Dear List: > > > > I have some processes in an app which take a while to > > execute. I generally put something on the screen to show > > the user that progress is being made. I'd like to give > > them the capability to abort the process by pressing the > > ESC key. Maybe they used data selection criteria to > > select 12 records and instead selected 12,000. Or made a > > mistake starting a long cost roll up or calculation which > > they'd like to abort. > > What's the simplest way to accomplish this? > > > DoEvents and a flag: > > As an example, put a text box (txtDisplay) and two buttons > on a form and paste this into it: > > Option Compare Database > Option Explicit > > Dim flgFinish As Boolean > > Private Sub Command0_Click() > flgFinish = True > End Sub > > Private Sub Command1_Click() > Dim Counter As Long > Do > Counter = Counter + 1 > txtDisplay = Counter > DoEvents > Loop Until flgFinish > flgFinish = False > End Sub > -------------------------------------- > This Email Was brought to you by > WebMail > A Netwin Web Based EMail Client > http://netwinsite.com/webmail/tag.htm > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From d.dick at uws.edu.au Sun Apr 6 20:46:05 2003 From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 11:46:05 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] WAY OT: Outlook Express Message-ID: <01be01c2fca7$74517a70$3c619a89@DDICK> Hello all Sorry for the OT post, it's just that you guys are my greatest PC, as well as Access, resource. Please post all replies to me at d.dick at uws.edu.au not to the list In Outlook Express, I don't want any attachments to be automatically previewed in the preview pane. I want them to just be a paperclip icon. At the moment they are both. If I get say... and animated GIF, it animates in the preview pane as well as giving me a paperclip icon. I just want to turn off the preview pane to all things except plain text and just give me a paperclip icon when there are attachments. Eudora and Outlook can do it, is this a limitation for LookOut Express?? Many thanks in advance Darren From lexacorp at global.net.pg Sun Apr 6 20:54:10 2003 From: lexacorp at global.net.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 11:54:10 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Stop That Code! Message-ID: <3e90da42.db22.1463368275@global.net.pg> > Stuart: > > Thanks. This will work like John's only without the tag > property. I've never used Tag before. Any advantage to > either approach? > Rocky > You are going to be testing the value a LOT :-( Testing a declared boolean variable will be quicker than evaluating the value of the form's tag. -------------------------------------- This Email Was brought to you by WebMail A Netwin Web Based EMail Client http://netwinsite.com/webmail/tag.htm From papparuff at attbi.com Sun Apr 6 23:04:43 2003 From: papparuff at attbi.com (John Ruff) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 21:04:43 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Stop That Code! In-Reply-To: <013501c2fc9f$9ba2c2d0$6501a8c0@HAL9002> Message-ID: <011101c2fcba$d26c6170$6401a8c0@papparuff> I don't want to get into a war of words as to which process is better, so I'm only going to respond to this only once. Stuart's suggestion works fine but I don't think it would be very intuitive for the user in that they would have to press two buttons, or press one button then the ESC key. The user only has to press one button with the process I suggested. But try both if you like and see which you prefer. John V. Ruff - The Eternal Optimist :-) "Commit to the Lord whatever you do, and your plans will succeed." Proverbs 16:3 -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 5:50 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stop That Code! Stuart: Thanks. This will work like John's only without the tag property. I've never used Tag before. Any advantage to either approach? Rocky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart McLachlan" To: Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stop That Code! > > > > Dear List: > > > > I have some processes in an app which take a while to execute. I > > generally put something on the screen to show the user that progress > > is being made. I'd like to give them the capability to abort the > > process by pressing the ESC key. Maybe they used data selection > > criteria to select 12 records and instead selected 12,000. Or made > > a mistake starting a long cost roll up or calculation which > > they'd like to abort. > > What's the simplest way to accomplish this? > > > DoEvents and a flag: > > As an example, put a text box (txtDisplay) and two buttons > on a form and paste this into it: > > Option Compare Database > Option Explicit > > Dim flgFinish As Boolean > > Private Sub Command0_Click() > flgFinish = True > End Sub > > Private Sub Command1_Click() > Dim Counter As Long > Do > Counter = Counter + 1 > txtDisplay = Counter > DoEvents > Loop Until flgFinish > flgFinish = False > End Sub > -------------------------------------- > This Email Was brought to you by > WebMail > A Netwin Web Based EMail Client > http://netwinsite.com/webmail/tag.htm > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From my.lists at verizon.net Mon Apr 7 01:52:16 2003 From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco Tapia) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 23:52:16 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] WAY OT: Outlook Express References: <01be01c2fca7$74517a70$3c619a89@DDICK> Message-ID: <011d01c2fcd2$3da23ed0$fd512304@amd2k> I think that's just a limitation of "Express LookOut" -Francisco http://rcm.netfirms.com/ On Sunday, April 06, 2003 6:46 PM [GMT -8], Darren DICK wrote: : Hello all : Sorry for the OT post, it's just that you guys are : my greatest PC, as well as Access, resource. : Please post all replies to me at d.dick at uws.edu.au : not to the list : : In Outlook Express, I don't want any attachments : to be automatically previewed in the : preview pane. I want them to just be a paperclip : icon. At the moment they are both. : : If I get say... and animated GIF, it animates in : the preview pane as well as : giving me a paperclip icon. I just want to turn : off the preview pane to all things : except plain text and just give me a paperclip : icon when there are attachments. : : Eudora and Outlook can do it, is this a limitation : for LookOut Express?? : : Many thanks in advance : : Darren : : : _______________________________________________ : AccessD mailing list : AccessD at databaseadvisors.com : http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd : Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at consulting.com.au Mon Apr 7 03:28:24 2003 From: accessd at consulting.com.au (Rob Chivers) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 16:28:24 +0800 Subject: [AccessD] export dates using transfertext A2K In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi I am exporting from a table to a text file with dates but keep getting the time in the exported date even though it doesn?t appear in the table. I have tried setting the date to dd-mmm-yyyy in table field but works on 1 table but not on another table. I have manually set up an export specification (eg ExportLeaseSpecification ) for each table using ; delimiter and none for text qualifier and : for time separator. Code is: ?following queries export to tmpPASwinExportLease and has 3 date fields with format dd-mmm-yyyy DoCmd.OpenQuery "qappExportLeaseHeader" DoCmd.OpenQuery "qappExportLease" ExportPASwinFile "ExportLeaseSpecification", "tmpExportLease", "ExportLease.txt" The export works fine but results in 17;21/03/2003;555;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; 1;N;070;ca;;;;2;12/04/1999;11/4/2004 0:00:00;;;;0;;;;;;;28/3/2003 14:10:56; 2;N;070;cip;;;;2;1/07/2000;30/6/2004 0:00:00;;;;0;;;;;;;28/3/2003 14:10:56; and what I want is 17;21/03/2003;555;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; 1;N;070;ca;;;;2;12/04/1999;11/4/2004;;;;0;;;;;;;28/3/2003; 2;N;070;cip;;;;2;1/07/2000;30/6/2004;;;;0;;;;;;;28/3/2003; Can anybody help? Thanks Rob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The additional code I posted in the second one will result in the system responding to _either_ the Esc key or the Cancel button. -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. From michael.mattys at adelphia.net Mon Apr 7 08:03:52 2003 From: michael.mattys at adelphia.net (Michael R Mattys) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 09:03:52 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] export dates using transfertext A2K References: Message-ID: <004501c2fd06$24500410$6401a8c0@default> Deja Vu From szeller at cce.umn.edu Mon Apr 7 08:59:46 2003 From: szeller at cce.umn.edu (Susan Zeller) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 08:59:46 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Application Icon issue Message-ID: I don't think all file types work. I'm using a bmp file and mine works fine. --Susan -----Original Message----- From: Scott Gage [mailto:scotttgage at yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 9:44 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Application Icon issue I want associate an Icon with my .mdb. I went to Tool/Startup and pointed to the Icon that I created in the Application Icon field but it isn't working. What am I doing wrong? ===== -------------------- Scott T. Gage Scott.gage at promedica.org 419.291-7177 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mitsules_ms at nns.com Mon Apr 7 09:33:56 2003 From: mitsules_ms at nns.com (Mitsules, Mark) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 10:33:56 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Application Icon issue Message-ID: Scott, The AppIcon property sets the icon used in the applications title bar. It can be a .bmp or an .ico. You can set it from Tools/Startup, or from code. Just curious, are you trying to change the icon that shows up in explorer? Mark -----Original Message----- From: Scott Gage [mailto:scotttgage at yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 2:50 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Application Icon issue No I'm not. I open the file up normaly. The application path is correct but the Icon still looks like MSAccess. ===== -------------------- Scott T. Gage Scott.gage at promedica.org 419.291-7177 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From pedro at plex.nl Mon Apr 7 10:29:34 2003 From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 17:29:34 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Message-ID: <003001c2fd1a$a55b3430$fcc581d5@pedro> Hello Group, i have a tableA with 5 fields (field size: single, decimal places:1) Not all fields have values. I want the difference from al those field, so i added a field diff. I made an update query with the following sql: UPDATE TableA SET TableA.[diff] = 100-Nz([field1],0)-Nz([[field2],0)- etc. etc.; The result that i get in field diff gives many records with more then 1 decimal places. For example: When i have a record which contains values like 5,1 and 94,9 (all values are typed in this way and are not calculated) i get as result 0,11176548 or a record that contains values like 20,5 and 20,5 i get as result 59,997854. Some result do have only one decimal place. How is this possible? TIA Pedro Janssen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Mon Apr 7 10:42:50 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 10:42:50 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Message-ID: Pedro, Remember, you are working on a binary computer. Thus decimal numbers must be approximated as the sum of powers of two. For integer numbers these approximations are exact representations. For floating point numbers, these approximations are just that - approximations. None of your floating point numbers are stored with just one digit to the right of the decimal point, they are only displayed to you as such. If you cannot learn to live with floating point numbers, then convert them to the currency datatype. The currency datatype will meet many of you computational needs. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl] Sent: Monday 2003 Apr 07 10:30 To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Hello Group, i have a tableA with 5 fields (field size: single, decimal places:1) Not all fields have values. I want the difference from al those field, so i added a field diff. I made an update query with the following sql: UPDATE TableA SET TableA.[diff] = 100-Nz([field1],0)-Nz([[field2],0)- etc. etc.; The result that i get in field diff gives many records with more then 1 decimal places. For example: When i have a record which contains values like 5,1 and 94,9 (all values are typed in this way and are not calculated) i get as result 0,11176548 or a record that contains values like 20,5 and 20,5 i get as result 59,997854. Some result do have only one decimal place. How is this possible? TIA Pedro Janssen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jarus at amerinet-gpo.com Mon Apr 7 10:48:51 2003 From: jarus at amerinet-gpo.com (Terri Jarus) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 10:48:51 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] A97 - References Message-ID: I have several users of the same database on a network - all works fairly well - except, now some folks have gotten new computers and new versions of Access (AXP). They also have A97 on their computer, because I don't want to switch until everyone has AXP. There is a button on a form that creates a Word document. Since everyone does not have Word97 (many have WXP), I have copied the Word 8.0 dll (set a reference) to a shared location so that this works on everyone's computer. However, somehow (I don't know how) the reference is getting changed to the Word 10 dll, which screws things up. All I have to do is change the reference back and all is well. Is there a way to ensure that the reference cannot be changed? Any ideas? Let me know if this does not make sense. From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Mon Apr 7 10:55:27 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 08:55:27 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Application Icon issue Message-ID: Did you put the icon in the folder with the application? Otherwise, it may not work. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Scott Gage [mailto:scotttgage at yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 7:44 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Application Icon issue I want associate an Icon with my .mdb. I went to Tool/Startup and pointed to the Icon that I created in the Application Icon field but it isn't working. What am I doing wrong? ===== -------------------- Scott T. Gage Scott.gage at promedica.org 419.291-7177 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com Mon Apr 7 11:02:53 2003 From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com (rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 11:02:53 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Searching for and replacing text in a string Message-ID: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A4EBC33@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net> I have a project where I pull in a text file, search for certain strings and replace them with another string. I have a table of the SearchFor and ReplaceWith strings so if anything changes in the codes they use they just have to adjust the entry in a table. I load the entire contents of the file into a string variable then search that variable for occurrences of the string to replace. So far everything works great, but now they need to search for a date in a certain area of the file and replace it with a code. Problem is the date will change each time they run this on a new file. I could have them change the SearchFor string each time they run this, but since the date will always be next to certain static characters it would be nice to utilize wildcard characters in the searchfor string ie SearchFor "~~GA~????????" (where the ?'s represent a date in mmddyyyy format) and the ReplaceWith string would simply be "~~GA~XX". Does anyone have a function that would do this? It would need to search for strings with or without wildcard characters. MTIA Rusty From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com Mon Apr 7 11:51:47 2003 From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 12:51:47 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Application Icon issue Message-ID: I sounds like you are talking about the icon in the startup settings. This only places an icon in the window bar, or in your task bar, when you minimize the program. This does not...unless I am missing something...provide for a desktop icon. John W Clark John W. Clark Computer Programmer / Asst. Network Administrator Niagara County Central Data Processing >>> cfoust at infostatsystems.com 04/07/03 11:55AM >>> Did you put the icon in the folder with the application? Otherwise, it may not work. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Scott Gage [mailto:scotttgage at yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 7:44 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Application Icon issue I want associate an Icon with my .mdb. I went to Tool/Startup and pointed to the Icon that I created in the Application Icon field but it isn't working. What am I doing wrong? ===== -------------------- Scott T. Gage Scott.gage at promedica.org 419.291-7177 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From scott.marcus at ae.ge.com Mon Apr 7 12:02:51 2003 From: scott.marcus at ae.ge.com (Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting)) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 13:02:51 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] A97 - References Message-ID: <768A0EA6FF8CB34FA522978966E5D52E559D61@bwam02msx.ae.ge.com> Do you mean 'olb' file instead of dll? Are you sharing this application on the network? I would guess that the file in question has a different name per version of word (mine is msword9.olb). You could set this reference based on which file you find on the computer. This wont work if you are sharing the application on the network. Scott -----Original Message----- From: Terri Jarus [mailto:jarus at amerinet-gpo.com] Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 11:49 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] A97 - References I have several users of the same database on a network - all works fairly well - except, now some folks have gotten new computers and new versions of Access (AXP). They also have A97 on their computer, because I don't want to switch until everyone has AXP. There is a button on a form that creates a Word document. Since everyone does not have Word97 (many have WXP), I have copied the Word 8.0 dll (set a reference) to a shared location so that this works on everyone's computer. However, somehow (I don't know how) the reference is getting changed to the Word 10 dll, which screws things up. All I have to do is change the reference back and all is well. Is there a way to ensure that the reference cannot be changed? Any ideas? Let me know if this does not make sense. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From pedro at plex.nl Mon Apr 7 12:25:28 2003 From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 19:25:28 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places References: Message-ID: <004d01c2fd2a$d144b570$fcc581d5@pedro> MessageHello Charles, when i type 5,1 i type 5,1 and not . How does a computer changes 5,1 into 5,11415899 although i type 5,1. What is the use of decimal places:1, with field size: single, when the pc makes a lott of decimal places from it. Then this property better wasn't available when using numbers (not currency). Is there a way to roundup the numbers to 1decimal place without using currency. Pedro Janssen ----- Original Message ----- From: Wortz, Charles To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 5:42 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Pedro, Remember, you are working on a binary computer. Thus decimal numbers must be approximated as the sum of powers of two. For integer numbers these approximations are exact representations. For floating point numbers, these approximations are just that - approximations. None of your floating point numbers are stored with just one digit to the right of the decimal point, they are only displayed to you as such. If you cannot learn to live with floating point numbers, then convert them to the currency datatype. The currency datatype will meet many of you computational needs. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl] Sent: Monday 2003 Apr 07 10:30 To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Hello Group, i have a tableA with 5 fields (field size: single, decimal places:1) Not all fields have values. I want the difference from al those field, so i added a field diff. I made an update query with the following sql: UPDATE TableA SET TableA.[diff] = 100-Nz([field1],0)-Nz([[field2],0)- etc. etc.; The result that i get in field diff gives many records with more then 1 decimal places. For example: When i have a record which contains values like 5,1 and 94,9 (all values are typed in this way and are not calculated) i get as result 0,11176548 or a record that contains values like 20,5 and 20,5 i get as result 59,997854. Some result do have only one decimal place. How is this possible? TIA Pedro Janssen ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Mon Apr 7 12:41:50 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 10:41:50 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Message-ID: You're going to have to explain whether you want to truly round numbers or just display them that way. The Decimal places setting addresses the display, not the precision. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl] Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 9:25 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Hello Charles, when i type 5,1 i type 5,1 and not . How does a computer changes 5,1 into 5,11415899 although i type 5,1. What is the use of decimal places:1, with field size: single, when the pc makes a lott of decimal places from it. Then this property better wasn't available when using numbers (not currency). Is there a way to roundup the numbers to 1decimal place without using currency. Pedro Janssen ----- Original Message ----- From: Wortz, Charles To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 5:42 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Pedro, Remember, you are working on a binary computer. Thus decimal numbers must be approximated as the sum of powers of two. For integer numbers these approximations are exact representations. For floating point numbers, these approximations are just that - approximations. None of your floating point numbers are stored with just one digit to the right of the decimal point, they are only displayed to you as such. If you cannot learn to live with floating point numbers, then convert them to the currency datatype. The currency datatype will meet many of you computational needs. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl] Sent: Monday 2003 Apr 07 10:30 To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Hello Group, i have a tableA with 5 fields (field size: single, decimal places:1) Not all fields have values. I want the difference from al those field, so i added a field diff. I made an update query with the following sql: UPDATE TableA SET TableA.[diff] = 100-Nz([field1],0)-Nz([[field2],0)- etc. etc.; The result that i get in field diff gives many records with more then 1 decimal places. For example: When i have a record which contains values like 5,1 and 94,9 (all values are typed in this way and are not calculated) i get as result 0,11176548 or a record that contains values like 20,5 and 20,5 i get as result 59,997854. Some result do have only one decimal place. How is this possible? TIA Pedro Janssen _____ _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From liz at symphonyinfo.com Mon Apr 7 12:48:31 2003 From: liz at symphonyinfo.com (Liz Doering) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 12:48:31 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Application Icon issue In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You can, however, create a desktop shortcut and change the icon on the shortcut. Liz Doering Symphony Information Services liz at symphonyinfo.com www.symphonyinfo.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John Clark Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 11:52 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Application Icon issue I sounds like you are talking about the icon in the startup settings. This only places an icon in the window bar, or in your task bar, when you minimize the program. This does not...unless I am missing something...provide for a desktop icon. John W Clark John W. Clark Computer Programmer / Asst. Network Administrator Niagara County Central Data Processing >>> cfoust at infostatsystems.com 04/07/03 11:55AM >>> Did you put the icon in the folder with the application? Otherwise, it may not work. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Scott Gage [mailto:scotttgage at yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 7:44 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Application Icon issue I want associate an Icon with my .mdb. I went to Tool/Startup and pointed to the Icon that I created in the Application Icon field but it isn't working. What am I doing wrong? ===== -------------------- Scott T. Gage Scott.gage at promedica.org 419.291-7177 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Mon Apr 7 13:03:21 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 13:03:21 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Message-ID: Pedro, Are you datatyping your numbers as Single or Double? Even with Single you get approximately seven (7) digits of precision. Thus your 5,1 will be stored as some value between 5,000005 and 5,100005. The value you claim is far outside of this range, leading me to conclude it is a calculated value, not a value you entered directly. If it is a value you entered directly, then please inform us of the hardware specifications of your computer since it does not meet any of the worldwide specifications for handling floating point numbers. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Monday 2003 Apr 07 12:42 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places You're going to have to explain whether you want to truly round numbers or just display them that way. The Decimal places setting addresses the display, not the precision. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl] Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 9:25 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Hello Charles, when i type 5,1 i type 5,1 and not . How does a computer changes 5,1 into 5,11415899 although i type 5,1. What is the use of decimal places:1, with field size: single, when the pc makes a lott of decimal places from it. Then this property better wasn't available when using numbers (not currency). Is there a way to roundup the numbers to 1decimal place without using currency. Pedro Janssen ----- Original Message ----- From: Wortz, Charles To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 5:42 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Pedro, Remember, you are working on a binary computer. Thus decimal numbers must be approximated as the sum of powers of two. For integer numbers these approximations are exact representations. For floating point numbers, these approximations are just that - approximations. None of your floating point numbers are stored with just one digit to the right of the decimal point, they are only displayed to you as such. If you cannot learn to live with floating point numbers, then convert them to the currency datatype. The currency datatype will meet many of you computational needs. Charles Wortz -----Original Message----- From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl] Sent: Monday 2003 Apr 07 10:30 To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Hello Group, i have a tableA with 5 fields (field size: single, decimal places:1) Not all fields have values. I want the difference from al those field, so i added a field diff. I made an update query with the following sql: UPDATE TableA SET TableA.[diff] = 100-Nz([field1],0)-Nz([[field2],0)- etc. etc.; The result that i get in field diff gives many records with more then 1 decimal places. For example: When i have a record which contains values like 5,1 and 94,9 (all values are typed in this way and are not calculated) i get as result 0,11176548 or a record that contains values like 20,5 and 20,5 i get as result 59,997854. Some result do have only one decimal place. How is this possible? TIA Pedro Janssen From mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com Mon Apr 7 14:47:14 2003 From: mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com (Mark Whittinghill) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 13:47:14 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Stop That Code! References: <007001c2fc63$153b39c0$6501a8c0@HAL9002> <006201c2fc65$cd69e1c0$6101a8c0@amd2k512> Message-ID: <01a101c2fd3e$7cef4350$0300000a@PASCAL> You can do transactions in A97 and DAO. Mark Whittinghill Symphony Information Services 612-333-1311 mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com ----- Original Message ----- From: William Hindman To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stop That Code! ...if records are being changed, transaction processing is the only safe way to accomplish it since you need to be able to safely back out of any changes made ...afaik transaction processing is supported natively in Access only in Jet4/ADO apps and even then its pretty basic functionality ...with DAO or A97, you either roll your own or switch to a SQL Server be where transaction processing support is both rich and native ...having rolled my own Access transaction processing before, I can promise you that its a pita ...HTH :) William Hindman "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. 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(Such as File system indexing (of data)....so a db like Access could use the File Systems indexing....) Drew -----Original Message----- From: Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting) [mailto:scott.marcus at ae.ge.com] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 5:45 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] New Software releases Was: ADP vs Access mdb/SQL Drew, < Yes, that makes sense. With a recordset, you can retrieve a value from a field by the field's position (the first field being 0), or by the field's name. So you could retrieve that value with something like rs.Fields(rs.Fields("Huh_Field").value).value Drew -----Original Message----- From: Gowey Mike W [mailto:Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 8:14 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Retrieving a Record Field That is correct, the name of the field that has the error will be displayed in the field named Huh_Field. I need to be able to display the information that is in the field that is listed in Huh_field. For instance the DOB field is incorrect this field name will be listed in the Huh_Field, I need than to display the information in the DOB field so the end user can correct it. I hope that makes sense. Thanks, Mike Gowey, MCP Technical Support Analyst SRCI ISSD Team Leader (541)881-4808 -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 3:58 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Retrieving a Record Field So let me get this straight. You need to display a form, that has 'two' fields at top, one is the name of the field that had an error, and the second is the value of the field. Right? (Do you need to display the rest of the data too?) Drew -----Original Message----- From: Gowey Mike W [mailto:Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:53 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Retrieving a Record Field Hi Everyone, I have a a need to pull a field from a record in a database when the field name is listed in another Field. What I am doing is I have a flat file that is imported into an Oracle database and it is run through a filter that checks the validity of certain fields in each record. If the record does not pass the filter the record is put into a temp table and the field name that has the error in it is put in a new field. I need to be able to display the field with the error on a form when the record is brought up. This will allow the end user to fix the record. Is this possible??? Thanks, Mike Gowey, MCP Technical Support Analyst SRCI ISSD Team Leader _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jarus at amerinet-gpo.com Mon Apr 7 14:16:09 2003 From: jarus at amerinet-gpo.com (Terri Jarus) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 14:16:09 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] A97 - References Message-ID: You're right - olb - the one I want to keep constant is msword8.olb. We are sharing the application over the network. >>> scott.marcus at ae.ge.com 04/07/03 12:02PM >>> Do you mean 'olb' file instead of dll? Are you sharing this application on the network? I would guess that the file in question has a different name per version of word (mine is msword9.olb). You could set this reference based on which file you find on the computer. This wont work if you are sharing the application on the network. Scott -----Original Message----- From: Terri Jarus [mailto:jarus at amerinet-gpo.com] Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 11:49 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] A97 - References I have several users of the same database on a network - all works fairly well - except, now some folks have gotten new computers and new versions of Access (AXP). They also have A97 on their computer, because I don't want to switch until everyone has AXP. There is a button on a form that creates a Word document. Since everyone does not have Word97 (many have WXP), I have copied the Word 8.0 dll (set a reference) to a shared location so that this works on everyone's computer. However, somehow (I don't know how) the reference is getting changed to the Word 10 dll, which screws things up. All I have to do is change the reference back and all is well. Is there a way to ensure that the reference cannot be changed? Any ideas? Let me know if this does not make sense. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jarus at amerinet-gpo.com Mon Apr 7 14:20:26 2003 From: jarus at amerinet-gpo.com (Terri Jarus) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 14:20:26 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT - Access to Excel Export Message-ID: We are exporting a file from AXP to EXP to include a memo field that might have carriage returns in it. The exported version in Excel shows those returns as little boxes - - I don't want that special character to show up in Excel. The character is not recognized in a search and replace. Any ideas? Thanks for any suggestions. From jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com Mon Apr 7 14:30:20 2003 From: jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com (jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 14:30:20 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT - Access to Excel Export Message-ID: You might need to do your search and replace using VBA code and look for either the CHAR(13) or CHAR(10) in the string. I think it might look something like the following (have not done VBA in excel for awhile) Range("A1").Select - Change this to your range If IsNull(ActiveCell.Value) Or ActiveCell.Value = "" Then mytest = "Empty" Else mytest = ActiveCell.Value End If Do Until mytest = "Empty" if instring(activecell.value, char(13),1) <> 0 or instring(activecell.value, char(10),1<>0 then << read through the string and replace the return>> end if ActiveCell.Offset(1, 0).Select If IsNull(ActiveCell.Value) Or ActiveCell.Value = "" Then mytest = "Empty" Else mytest = ActiveCell.Value End If Loop Hope this at least gets you going. "Terri Jarus" Sent by: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 04/07/2003 02:20 PM Please respond to accessd To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com cc: Subject: [AccessD] OT - Access to Excel Export We are exporting a file from AXP to EXP to include a memo field that might have carriage returns in it. The exported version in Excel shows those returns as little boxes - - I don't want that special character to show up in Excel. The character is not recognized in a search and replace. Any ideas? Thanks for any suggestions. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This wont work if you are sharing >the >application on the network. > >Scott > >-----Original Message----- >From: Terri Jarus [mailto:jarus at amerinet-gpo.com] >Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 11:49 AM >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >Subject: [AccessD] A97 - References > > >I have several users of the same database on a network - all works >fairly well - except, now some folks have gotten new computers and new >versions of Access (AXP). They also have A97 on their computer, >because >I don't want to switch until everyone has AXP. > >There is a button on a form that creates a Word document. Since >everyone does not have Word97 (many have WXP), I have copied the Word >8.0 dll (set a reference) to a shared location so that this works on >everyone's computer. However, somehow (I don't know how) the >reference >is getting changed to the Word 10 dll, which screws things up. 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From jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com Mon Apr 7 15:08:55 2003 From: jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com (jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 15:08:55 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] CommandBarControl subitems Message-ID: Susan, Here is some code that might help. You will need to modify it as I just took it out of one of my programs that calls it to hide ALL command bars, etc. I hope this helps. Sub hideCommandBars() Dim cbr As CommandBar For Each cbr In CommandBars hidebar cbr Next cbr End Sub Sub listbar(level As Integer, thisbar As CommandBar) Dim cbrctl As CommandBarControl Dim indent As Integer ' Indent the command bar depending on its level in ' the menu structure. For indent = 1 To level MsgBox " " Next indent Select Case thisbar.Type Case msoBarTypeMenuBar MsgBox "Menu Bar: " & thisbar.name Case msoBarTypeNormal MsgBox "Toolbar: " & thisbar.name Case msoBarTypePopup MsgBox "Popup: " & thisbar.name End Select For Each cbrctl In thisbar.Controls ' If the control doesn't have a command bar associated ' with it, then don't print it. If cbrctl.Type <> 1 And cbrctl.Type <> 2 _ And cbrctl.Type <> 4 And cbrctl.Type <> 16 _ And cbrctl.Type <> 18 Then listbar level + 1, cbrctl.CommandBar End If Next cbrctl End Sub Sub hidebar(thisbar As CommandBar) Dim cbrctl As CommandBarControl Dim indent As Integer ' Indent the command bar depending on its level in ' the menu structure. For indent = 1 To level MsgBox " " Next indent Select Case thisbar.Type Case msoBarTypeMenuBar DoCmd.ShowToolbar thisbar.name, acToolbarNo Case msoBarTypeNormal DoCmd.ShowToolbar thisbar.name, acToolbarNo Case msoBarTypePopup DoCmd.ShowToolbar thisbar.name, acToolbarNo End Select For Each cbrctl In thisbar.Controls ' If the control doesn't have a command bar associated ' with it, then don't print it. If cbrctl.Type <> 1 And cbrctl.Type <> 2 _ And cbrctl.Type <> 4 And cbrctl.Type <> 16 _ And cbrctl.Type <> 18 Then listbar level + 1, cbrctl.CommandBar End If Next cbrctl End Sub "Susan Harkins" Sent by: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 04/07/2003 02:47 PM Please respond to accessd To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com cc: Subject: [AccessD] CommandBarControl subitems If a CommandBarControl on a menu bar contains submenus, how do I cycle through that control's collection to list the submenus? This is driving me nuts -- I can't figure out how to reference a control's Collection -- does a control have a collection? I'm assuming it does if there are submenus????? Dim cbarMenu As CommandBar Dim cbarControl As CommandBarControl Dim cbarSub As CommandBarControl 'Dim cbarcolControls As CommandBarControls Set cbarMenu = CommandBars(barname) For Each cbarControl In cbarMenu.Controls If cbarControl.Id = controlname Then For Each control in cbarControl's collection... This is where I get lost -- at this point, I need to declare cbarControl's collection, and I can't get it. Susan H. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From scott.marcus at ae.ge.com Mon Apr 7 15:17:44 2003 From: scott.marcus at ae.ge.com (Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting)) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 16:17:44 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] A97 - References Message-ID: <768A0EA6FF8CB34FA522978966E5D52E559D62@bwam02msx.ae.ge.com> Terri, You could use the following code.... Dim ref as Reference Dim strFilename as String Dim strName as String Din intLoc as Integer strFilename = "c:\windows\system\mso8.dll" 'Change this to desired path For each ref in References strName = ref.FullPath intLoc = 1 While intLoc <> 0 intLoc = InStr(1, strName, "\") strName = Right(strName, Len(strName) - intLoc) Wend If LEFT(strName, 3) = "MSO" Then 'Find the Office object Reference If strName <> "MSO8.DLL" Then 'See if the reference is correct References.Remove ref 'Wrong reference so remove it References.AddFromFile (strFilename) Exit For End If End If Next ref I think that late binding(like Marty suggests) would be a better solution tho. Scott -----Original Message----- From: MartyConnelly [mailto:martyconnelly at shaw.ca] Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 3:42 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] A97 - References You could just use late binding then it grabs the latest version available. Terri Jarus wrote: You're right - olb - the one I want to keep constant is msword8.olb. We are sharing the application over the network. scott.marcus at ae.ge.com 04/07/03 12:02PM >>> Do you mean 'olb' file instead of dll? Are you sharing this application on the network? I would guess that the file in question has a different name per version of word (mine is msword9.olb). You could set this reference based on which file you find on the computer. This wont work if you are sharing the application on the network. Scott -----Original Message----- From: Terri Jarus [ mailto:jarus at amerinet-gpo.com ] Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 11:49 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] A97 - References I have several users of the same database on a network - all works fairly well - except, now some folks have gotten new computers and new versions of Access (AXP). They also have A97 on their computer, because I don't want to switch until everyone has AXP. There is a button on a form that creates a Word document. Since everyone does not have Word97 (many have WXP), I have copied the Word 8.0 dll (set a reference) to a shared location so that this works on everyone's computer. However, somehow (I don't know how) the reference is getting changed to the Word 10 dll, which screws things up. All I have to do is change the reference back and all is well. Is there a way to ensure that the reference cannot be changed? Any ideas? 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URL: From sgsax at ksu.edu Mon Apr 7 15:40:36 2003 From: sgsax at ksu.edu (Seth Galitzer) Date: 07 Apr 2003 15:40:36 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] CommandBarControl subitems In-Reply-To: <051f01c2fd3e$9a6fc0d0$d6e6ffcc@SusanOne> References: <051f01c2fd3e$9a6fc0d0$d6e6ffcc@SusanOne> Message-ID: <1049748037.30245.98.camel@sgsax-th4022c> CommandBars are very strange beasts. I ran into some strange stuff when I converted the ErrorHandler to A2K VBE. I wanted a submenu off of the Add-Ins menu, and then several items off that submenu. It turns out a submenu is handled slightly differently than a parent menu. It also turns out that the object model treats commandbars and toolbars almost exactly the same, and they are both treated as controls. Note the CommandBarControl object has a FindControl method. Here's some of the code from the ErroHandler add-in to demonstrate this: Private Function CBDoesCBCtlExist(strCBarName As String, _ strCtlName As String) As Boolean Dim ctl As CommandBarControl Set ctl = appCurrent.CommandBars(strCBarName).FindControl(, , _ strCtlName) If ctl Is Nothing Then CBDoesCBCtlExist = False Else CBDoesCBCtlExist = True End If End Function This function is a variation on that found in the ODE samples library, which looks like this: Private Function CBDoesCBExist(strCBarName As String) As Boolean Dim cbrBar As CommandBar On Error Resume Next Set cbrBar = appCurrent.CommandBars(strCBarName) If Err = 0 Then CBDoesCBExist = True Else CBDoesCBExist = False End If End Function I used both in various places, although both are probably not needed. When initializing the whole thing, I create both the add-in submenu and the toolbar first, and then add sub-items later. Here's the code for that: Public Const conMenuName = "Add-Ins" Public Const conSubMenuName = "C2DbFrameWizMenu" Public Const conTBarName = "C2DbFrameWiz" Function InitCommandBars() As Boolean Dim cbrMenu As CommandBar Dim cbrTbar As CommandBar Dim ctlCBarCtl As Office.CommandBarControl 'Set up the toolbar first If CBDoesCBExist(conTBarName) = False Then Set cbrTbar = appCurrent.CommandBars.Add(conTBarName) cbrTbar.Position = msoBarTop cbrTbar.Visible = True End If 'Set up the Add-in submenu next On Error Resume Next Set cbrMenu = appCurrent.CommandBars(conMenuName) Set ctlCBarCtl = cbrMenu.Controls(conSubMenuName) If Err <> 0 Then Err.Clear Set ctlSubMenu = cbrMenu.Controls.Add(msoControlPopup) ctlSubMenu.Caption = "&" & conTBarName End If If Err = 0 Then InitCommandBars = True Else InitCommandBars = False End Function Note that in this case, appCurrent is a global pointer to the current instance of the VBIDE object. If you just want it for Access, I think you can just use the built-in Application object. So once the "parent" commandbars are initialized, I add the menu items using the following code: Function AddCommandBarControl(strCommandBarName As String, _ strControlName As String, strControlCaption As String, _ strAction As String, intResBitmap As Integer, _ Optional bAddToSubMenu As Boolean = False, _ Optional lngType As Long = 1, Optional lngStyle As Long = 3, _ Optional strShortcut As String = "") As Office.CommandBarButton On Error Resume Next Dim cbrNew As Object Dim ctlCBarControl As Office.CommandBarButton ' Toolbars are handled slightly differently from menubars, ' so set a parent object here If bAddToSubMenu Then Set cbrNew = ctlSubMenu Else Set cbrNew = appCurrent.CommandBars(strCommandBarName) End If ' Only add the control if it's not there already If CBDoesCBCtlExist(strCommandBarName, strControlName) = False Then With cbrNew Clipboard.SetData LoadResPicture(intResBitmap, _ vbResBitmap), vbCFBitmap Set ctlCBarControl = .Controls.Add(lngType) With ctlCBarControl .Tag = strControlName .Caption = strControlCaption .PasteFace .Style = lngStyle .OnAction = strAction If Len(strShortcut) > 0 Then .ShortcutText = strShortcut End With End With End If Set AddCommandBarControl = ctlCBarControl End Function The Init function andt his function are called when the add-in is activated (when the VBE IDE starts up). Here's an excerpt from that: ' Constants for characters surrounding ProgID. Public Const PROG_ID_START As String = "!<" Public Const PROG_ID_END As String = ">" If InitCommandBars Then 'If we were successful in creating the commandbars 'Create the error handler toolbar buttons Set ctlTBarErrHndlrEvents = AddCommandBarControl(conTBarName, _ "ErrHndlrBldr", "&Error Handler", PROG_ID_START & _ AddInInst.ProgId & PROG_ID_END, conResBmpErr) ' skip a bunch more of these 'Create the error handler menu bar selection Set ctlMenuErrHndlrEvents = AddCommandBarControl( _ conSubMenuName, "ErrHndlrBldrMenu", "&Error Handler", _ PROG_ID_START & AddInInst.ProgId & PROG_ID_END, _ conResBmpErr, True, , , "Ctrl+Shift+Z") ' skip a bunch more of these End If Some of this isn't totally relevant, but I hope it will give you an idea of what's involved at the level of creating commandbars and commandbar items. Seth On Mon, 2003-04-07 at 14:47, Susan Harkins wrote: > If a CommandBarControl on a menu bar contains submenus, how do I cycle > through that control's collection to list the submenus? This is driving me > nuts -- I can't figure out how to reference a control's Collection -- does a > control have a collection? I'm assuming it does if there are submenus????? > > > Dim cbarMenu As CommandBar > Dim cbarControl As CommandBarControl > Dim cbarSub As CommandBarControl > 'Dim cbarcolControls As CommandBarControls > Set cbarMenu = CommandBars(barname) > For Each cbarControl In cbarMenu.Controls > If cbarControl.Id = controlname Then > For Each control in cbarControl's collection... > > > This is where I get lost -- at this point, I need to declare cbarControl's > collection, and I can't get it. > > > Susan H. > -- Seth Galitzer sgsax at ksu.edu Computing Specialist http://puma.agron.ksu.edu/~sgsax Dept. of Plant Pathology Kansas State University From harkins at iglou.com Mon Apr 7 15:39:27 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 16:39:27 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] CommandBarControl subitems References: Message-ID: <059201c2fd45$ca39c6b0$d6e6ffcc@SusanOne> Well, I don't think it does what I'm after. Your code seems to refer to the command bar and its controls -- I'm looking for the controls' controls. For instance: Menu bar: File: New, Open, SaveAs..., I'm trying to loop through New, Open, Save As, and so on. Susan H. Susan, Here is some code that might help. You will need to modify it as I just took it out of one of my programs that calls it to hide ALL command bars, etc. I hope this helps. Sub hideCommandBars() Dim cbr As CommandBar For Each cbr In CommandBars hidebar cbr Next cbr End Sub Sub listbar(level As Integer, thisbar As CommandBar) Dim cbrctl As CommandBarControl Dim indent As Integer ' Indent the command bar depending on its level in ' the menu structure. For indent = 1 To level MsgBox " " Next indent Select Case thisbar.Type Case msoBarTypeMenuBar MsgBox "Menu Bar: " & thisbar.name Case msoBarTypeNormal MsgBox "Toolbar: " & thisbar.name Case msoBarTypePopup MsgBox "Popup: " & thisbar.name End Select For Each cbrctl In thisbar.Controls ' If the control doesn't have a command bar associated ' with it, then don't print it. If cbrctl.Type <> 1 And cbrctl.Type <> 2 _ And cbrctl.Type <> 4 And cbrctl.Type <> 16 _ And cbrctl.Type <> 18 Then listbar level + 1, cbrctl.CommandBar End If Next cbrctl End Sub Sub hidebar(thisbar As CommandBar) Dim cbrctl As CommandBarControl Dim indent As Integer ' Indent the command bar depending on its level in ' the menu structure. For indent = 1 To level MsgBox " " Next indent Select Case thisbar.Type Case msoBarTypeMenuBar DoCmd.ShowToolbar thisbar.name, acToolbarNo Case msoBarTypeNormal DoCmd.ShowToolbar thisbar.name, acToolbarNo Case msoBarTypePopup DoCmd.ShowToolbar thisbar.name, acToolbarNo End Select For Each cbrctl In thisbar.Controls ' If the control doesn't have a command bar associated ' with it, then don't print it. If cbrctl.Type <> 1 And cbrctl.Type <> 2 _ And cbrctl.Type <> 4 And cbrctl.Type <> 16 _ And cbrctl.Type <> 18 Then listbar level + 1, cbrctl.CommandBar End If Next cbrctl End Sub "Susan Harkins" Sent by: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 04/07/2003 02:47 PM Please respond to accessd To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com cc: Subject: [AccessD] CommandBarControl subitems If a CommandBarControl on a menu bar contains submenus, how do I cycle through that control's collection to list the submenus? This is driving me nuts -- I can't figure out how to reference a control's Collection -- does a control have a collection? I'm assuming it does if there are submenus????? Dim cbarMenu As CommandBar Dim cbarControl As CommandBarControl Dim cbarSub As CommandBarControl 'Dim cbarcolControls As CommandBarControls Set cbarMenu = CommandBars(barname) For Each cbarControl In cbarMenu.Controls If cbarControl.Id = controlname Then For Each control in cbarControl's collection... This is where I get lost -- at this point, I need to declare cbarControl's collection, and I can't get it. 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URL: From harkins at iglou.com Mon Apr 7 16:31:29 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 17:31:29 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] submenu syntax -- got it finally Message-ID: <05a001c2fd4d$7d0fc5d0$d6e6ffcc@SusanOne> Function GetSubmenuNames(barname As String, controlname As String) Dim cbarMenu As CommandBar Dim cbarControl As CommandBarControl Set cbarMenu = CommandBars(barname) For Each cbarControl In cbarMenu.Controls(controlname).Controls Debug.Print cbarControl.Caption; _ vbTab; cbarControl.Enabled; _ vbTab; cbarControl.Type; _ vbTab; cbarControl.Id Next End Function From harkins at iglou.com Mon Apr 7 16:44:50 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 17:44:50 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] CommandBarControl subitems References: <051f01c2fd3e$9a6fc0d0$d6e6ffcc@SusanOne> <1049748037.30245.98.camel@sgsax-th4022c> Message-ID: <05fd01c2fd4e$ec673b60$d6e6ffcc@SusanOne> thanks Seth -- I'm printing this out -- right now I'm just working through the object model -- mostly working on references. This may come in handy later -- thanks! Susan H. > CommandBars are very strange beasts. I ran into some strange stuff when > I converted the ErrorHandler to A2K VBE. I wanted a submenu off of the > Add-Ins menu, and then several items off that submenu. It turns out a > submenu is handled slightly differently than a parent menu. It also > turns out that the object model treats commandbars and toolbars almost > exactly the same, and they are both treated as controls. Note the > CommandBarControl object has a FindControl method. Here's some of the > code from the ErroHandler add-in to demonstrate this: > From Paul.Millard at freight.fedex.com Mon Apr 7 17:05:29 2003 From: Paul.Millard at freight.fedex.com (Millard, Paul --- Sr. Developer Analyst ---WGO) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 17:05:29 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Permissions on Joined Table Query Message-ID: Hi Everyone, Is it possible to allow update permissions on one table and read permissions for another in a joined table query? My current work around is to put this into a form and lock the fields that are for read only. Thanks, Paul ********************************************************** This message contains information that is confidential and proprietary to FedEx Freight or its affiliates. It is intended only for the recipient named and for the express purpose(s) described therein. Any other use is prohibited. **************************************************************** From markamatte at hotmail.com Mon Apr 7 17:30:43 2003 From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 22:30:43 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] Application Icon issue Message-ID: Hello All, If you want to change the ICON on the desktop...the only way I know is to create a shortcut...goto properties of the shortcut...and select a different ICON...I'm sure you could create a function that does the same thing in code for deployment purposes...Hope it helps. Have a great Day!!! Mark A. Matte >From: "John Clark" >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >To: >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Application Icon issue >Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 12:51:47 -0400 > >I sounds like you are talking about the icon in the startup settings. >This only places an icon in the window bar, or in your task bar, when >you minimize the program. This does not...unless I am missing >something...provide for a desktop icon. > >John W Clark > >John W. Clark >Computer Programmer / Asst. Network Administrator >Niagara County >Central Data Processing > > >>> cfoust at infostatsystems.com 04/07/03 11:55AM >>> >Did you put the icon in the folder with the application? Otherwise, >it >may not work. > >Charlotte Foust > >-----Original Message----- >From: Scott Gage [mailto:scotttgage at yahoo.com] >Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 7:44 AM >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >Subject: [AccessD] Application Icon issue > > >I want associate an Icon with my .mdb. I went to >Tool/Startup and pointed to the Icon that I created in >the Application Icon field but it isn't working. What >am I doing wrong? > >===== >-------------------- >Scott T. Gage >Scott.gage at promedica.org >419.291-7177 > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more >http://tax.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Mon Apr 7 18:24:11 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 16:24:11 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Application Icon issue Message-ID: If you use an installer like Wise, you can set the installer up to create the desktop icon for your shortcut. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Mark A Matte [mailto:markamatte at hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 2:31 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Application Icon issue Hello All, If you want to change the ICON on the desktop...the only way I know is to create a shortcut...goto properties of the shortcut...and select a different ICON...I'm sure you could create a function that does the same thing in code for deployment purposes...Hope it helps. Have a great Day!!! Mark A. Matte >From: "John Clark" >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >To: >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Application Icon issue >Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 12:51:47 -0400 > >I sounds like you are talking about the icon in the startup settings. >This only places an icon in the window bar, or in your task bar, when >you minimize the program. This does not...unless I am missing >something...provide for a desktop icon. > >John W Clark > >John W. Clark >Computer Programmer / Asst. Network Administrator >Niagara County >Central Data Processing > > >>> cfoust at infostatsystems.com 04/07/03 11:55AM >>> >Did you put the icon in the folder with the application? Otherwise, it >may not work. > >Charlotte Foust > >-----Original Message----- >From: Scott Gage [mailto:scotttgage at yahoo.com] >Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 7:44 AM >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >Subject: [AccessD] Application Icon issue > > >I want associate an Icon with my .mdb. I went to >Tool/Startup and pointed to the Icon that I created in >the Application Icon field but it isn't working. What >am I doing wrong? > >===== >-------------------- >Scott T. Gage >Scott.gage at promedica.org >419.291-7177 > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more >http://tax.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Mon Apr 7 19:15:44 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 19:15:44 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D8261A@main2.marlow.com> Actually, they have been up for almost a week. It's just taken me a while to finish up some of the code issues, and to add some info/help pages. http://www.wolfwares.com/AccessD Right now the archives are using my Wolfwares.com 'theme', but hopefully in the near future they will match the dba website. (The webmaster for dba has access to these files, so when he gets the chance, he'll be modifying my pages to match the 'new' dba site). Drew From gordons2 at pacbell.net Mon Apr 7 21:01:52 2003 From: gordons2 at pacbell.net (Gordon) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 19:01:52 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Just A Test Message-ID: <00fb01c2fd72$d36e1060$0400a8c0@home1> Just testing. I haven't received anything from the site for a couple of days or more. Ever since SBC did their thing Gordon Http://www.GSDbSolutions.com Http://www.IntaLeather.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Here are a few values that i received as result: 2,199998 0,2000008 0,2999992 3,799999 -1,430511E-06 1,519918E-06 -1,937151E-07 this result i received from numbers that were entered directly in the Table.(see first mail) I don't know what hardware specifications you need, but its a laptop Acer Travelmate 620, Pentium III, CPU1000MHz 535MHz and 248MB RAM, WindowsXP, Home edition Pedro Janssen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wortz, Charles" To: Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 8:03 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places > Pedro, > > Are you datatyping your numbers as Single or Double? Even with Single > you get approximately seven (7) digits of precision. Thus your 5,1 will > be stored as some value between 5,000005 and 5,100005. The value you > claim is far outside of this range, leading me to conclude it is a > calculated value, not a value you entered directly. If it is a value > you entered directly, then please inform us of the hardware > specifications of your computer since it does not meet any of the > worldwide specifications for handling floating point numbers. > Charles Wortz > Software Development Division > Texas Education Agency > 1701 N. Congress Ave > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > 512-463-9493 > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > -----Original Message----- > From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] > Sent: Monday 2003 Apr 07 12:42 > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places > > > You're going to have to explain whether you want to truly round numbers > or just display them that way. The Decimal places setting addresses the > display, not the precision. > > Charlotte Foust > -----Original Message----- > From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl] > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 9:25 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places > > > Hello Charles, > > when i type 5,1 i type 5,1 and not . > How does a computer changes 5,1 into 5,11415899 although i type 5,1. > > What is the use of decimal places:1, with field size: single, when the > pc makes a lott of decimal places from it. Then this property better > wasn't available when using numbers (not currency). > Is there a way to roundup the numbers to 1decimal place without using > currency. > > Pedro Janssen > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Wortz, Charles > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 5:42 PM > Subject: RE: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places > > > Pedro, > > Remember, you are working on a binary computer. Thus decimal numbers > must be approximated as the sum of powers of two. For integer numbers > these approximations are exact representations. For floating point > numbers, these approximations are just that - approximations. None of > your floating point numbers are stored with just one digit to the right > of the decimal point, they are only displayed to you as such. > > If you cannot learn to live with floating point numbers, then convert > them to the currency datatype. The currency datatype will meet many of > you computational needs. > > > Charles Wortz > -----Original Message----- > From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl] > Sent: Monday 2003 Apr 07 10:30 > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places > > > Hello Group, > > i have a tableA with 5 fields (field size: single, decimal places:1) > Not all fields have values. > I want the difference from al those field, so i added a field diff. > I made an update query with the following sql: > > UPDATE TableA SET TableA.[diff] = 100-Nz([field1],0)-Nz([[field2],0)- > etc. etc.; > > The result that i get in field diff gives many records with more then 1 > decimal places. > > For example: When i have a record which contains values like 5,1 and > 94,9 (all values are typed in this way and are not calculated) i get as > result 0,11176548 > or a record that contains values like 20,5 and 20,5 i get as result > 59,997854. > Some result do have only one decimal place. > > How is this possible? > > TIA > > Pedro Janssen > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From pedro at plex.nl Tue Apr 8 06:17:23 2003 From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 13:17:23 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places References: Message-ID: <008001c2fdc1$7819afe0$fdc581d5@pedro> MessageHello Charlotte, i want truly round numbers with 1 precision. Pedro Janssen ----- Original Message ----- From: Charlotte Foust To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 7:41 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places You're going to have to explain whether you want to truly round numbers or just display them that way. The Decimal places setting addresses the display, not the precision. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl] Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 9:25 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Hello Charles, when i type 5,1 i type 5,1 and not . How does a computer changes 5,1 into 5,11415899 although i type 5,1. What is the use of decimal places:1, with field size: single, when the pc makes a lott of decimal places from it. Then this property better wasn't available when using numbers (not currency). Is there a way to roundup the numbers to 1decimal place without using currency. Pedro Janssen ----- Original Message ----- From: Wortz, Charles To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 5:42 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Pedro, Remember, you are working on a binary computer. Thus decimal numbers must be approximated as the sum of powers of two. For integer numbers these approximations are exact representations. For floating point numbers, these approximations are just that - approximations. None of your floating point numbers are stored with just one digit to the right of the decimal point, they are only displayed to you as such. If you cannot learn to live with floating point numbers, then convert them to the currency datatype. The currency datatype will meet many of you computational needs. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl] Sent: Monday 2003 Apr 07 10:30 To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Hello Group, i have a tableA with 5 fields (field size: single, decimal places:1) Not all fields have values. I want the difference from al those field, so i added a field diff. I made an update query with the following sql: UPDATE TableA SET TableA.[diff] = 100-Nz([field1],0)-Nz([[field2],0)- etc. etc.; The result that i get in field diff gives many records with more then 1 decimal places. For example: When i have a record which contains values like 5,1 and 94,9 (all values are typed in this way and are not calculated) i get as result 0,11176548 or a record that contains values like 20,5 and 20,5 i get as result 59,997854. Some result do have only one decimal place. How is this possible? TIA Pedro Janssen -------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From garykjos at hotmail.com Tue Apr 8 07:34:06 2003 From: garykjos at hotmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 07:34:06 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! Message-ID: Thanks Drew. The searches seem very quick. Gary Kjos garykjos at hotmail.com >From: Drew Wutka >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >To: "'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com'" >Subject: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! >Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 19:15:44 -0500 > >Actually, they have been up for almost a week. It's just taken me a while >to finish up some of the code issues, and to add some info/help pages. > >http://www.wolfwares.com/AccessD > >Right now the archives are using my Wolfwares.com 'theme', but hopefully in >the near future they will match the dba website. (The webmaster for dba >has >access to these files, so when he gets the chance, he'll be modifying my >pages to match the 'new' dba site). > >Drew > > >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Tue Apr 8 07:41:56 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 07:41:56 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Message-ID: Pedro, You seem to have a misconception of how computers work. They are binary (base 2) not decimal (base 10). Thus numbers can only be represented as the sum of powers of two. Since all integers (numbers without fractional parts) can be represented exactly as the sum of powers of two they can be stored and manipulated without any loss of precision (excepting division operations). All floating point numbers (numbers with fractional parts), except for those rare ones where the fractional part is an exact sum of powers of two, must be represented by an approximation of its value. The precision of a floating point number tell you how close to actual value the approximate value can come. Thus for Singles with about seven digits of precision, you know that up to the seventh digit accurately represent the actual value and any digits beyond that should not be counted on to be accurate. Thus you must choose between the exact representation of integers and the approximate representation of floating point numbers. In later versions of VB and other languages there is now a third choice, the currency datatype. This is a compromise between the two fundamental numeric datatypes. It is a scaled integer used to represent floating point numbers where you do not want more than four digits of precision for the fractional part. To get what you want, you must pick from these numeric datatypes and then use the proper rounding and formatting functions to get the numbers to display as you desire. There are no other choices if you are going to do it on a computer. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 08 06:17 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Hello Charlotte, i want truly round numbers with 1 precision. Pedro Janssen ----- Original Message ----- From: Charlotte Foust To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 7:41 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places You're going to have to explain whether you want to truly round numbers or just display them that way. The Decimal places setting addresses the display, not the precision. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl] Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 9:25 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Hello Charles, when i type 5,1 i type 5,1 and not . How does a computer changes 5,1 into 5,11415899 although i type 5,1. What is the use of decimal places:1, with field size: single, when the pc makes a lott of decimal places from it. Then this property better wasn't available when using numbers (not currency). Is there a way to roundup the numbers to 1decimal place without using currency. Pedro Janssen ----- Original Message ----- From: Wortz, Charles To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 5:42 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Pedro, Remember, you are working on a binary computer. Thus decimal numbers must be approximated as the sum of powers of two. For integer numbers these approximations are exact representations. For floating point numbers, these approximations are just that - approximations. None of your floating point numbers are stored with just one digit to the right of the decimal point, they are only displayed to you as such. If you cannot learn to live with floating point numbers, then convert them to the currency datatype. The currency datatype will meet many of you computational needs. Charles Wortz -----Original Message----- From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl] Sent: Monday 2003 Apr 07 10:30 To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Hello Group, i have a tableA with 5 fields (field size: single, decimal places:1) Not all fields have values. I want the difference from al those field, so i added a field diff. I made an update query with the following sql: UPDATE TableA SET TableA.[diff] = 100-Nz([field1],0)-Nz([[field2],0)- etc. etc.; The result that i get in field diff gives many records with more then 1 decimal places. For example: When i have a record which contains values like 5,1 and 94,9 (all values are typed in this way and are not calculated) i get as result 0,11176548 or a record that contains values like 20,5 and 20,5 i get as result 59,997854. Some result do have only one decimal place. How is this possible? TIA Pedro Janssen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gustav at cactus.dk Tue Apr 8 07:48:11 2003 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 14:48:11 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Stop That Code! In-Reply-To: <01a101c2fd3e$7cef4350$0300000a@PASCAL> References: <007001c2fc63$153b39c0$6501a8c0@HAL9002> <006201c2fc65$cd69e1c0$6101a8c0@amd2k512> <01a101c2fd3e$7cef4350$0300000a@PASCAL> Message-ID: <19120860996.20030408144811@cactus.dk> Hi William and Mark Actually from Access 2.0 and forward ... /gustav > You can do transactions in A97 and DAO. > Mark Whittinghill > ...if records are being changed, transaction processing is the only safe way to accomplish it since you need to be able to safely back out of any changes made ...afaik transaction processing is > supported natively in Access only in Jet4/ADO apps and even then its pretty basic functionality ...with DAO or A97, you either roll your own or switch to a SQL Server be where transaction > processing support is both rich and native ...having rolled my own Access transaction processing before, I can promise you that its a pita ...HTH :) From gustav at cactus.dk Tue Apr 8 07:55:42 2003 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 14:55:42 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places In-Reply-To: <008001c2fdc1$7819afe0$fdc581d5@pedro> References: <008001c2fdc1$7819afe0$fdc581d5@pedro> Message-ID: <3721311654.20030408145542@cactus.dk> Hi Pedro In that case use Currency as the datatype and all your troubles will be gone. If you don't can (or want to) do this, apply CCur() and all your single values in the calculation you perform. /gustav > i want truly round numbers with 1 precision. From gustav at cactus.dk Tue Apr 8 08:06:06 2003 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 15:06:06 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places In-Reply-To: <3721311654.20030408145542@cactus.dk> References: <008001c2fdc1$7819afe0$fdc581d5@pedro> <3721311654.20030408145542@cactus.dk> Message-ID: <9421935461.20030408150606@cactus.dk> Oops, typos ... sorry: > If you can't (or don't want to) do this, apply CCur() on all your > single values in the calculation you perform. /gustav From jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com Tue Apr 8 08:11:34 2003 From: jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 09:11:34 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MessageCharles, Are you sure that Currency is just a scaled floating pt number? I'm sure you know, but for the edification of those who may not, in the old days you had a form of data called BCD for binary coded decimal. BCD is a system where decimal DIGITS are stored in 4 bits. Since 4 bits can represent the values 1-15, any decimal digit can then be represented exactly without any rounding error at all due to inexact representation in binary storage. Then a program (functions in the math library) would manipulate strings of binary coded decimal DIGITS to allow absolutely precise decimal arithmetic out to the specified precision, with no errors introduced due to binary storage techniques. It was my understanding that the currency datatype was a BCD datatype, scaled to 4 decimal digits right of the decimal point. My understanding also is that floating point numbers are simply a binary approximation stored in an 80 bit number with various combinations of the bits used for the digit and the fraction. Thus NO floating point numbers (results) can be guaranteed to be correct if enough calculations are performed since the results are always stored back into a binary format, introducing binary storage errors in representing what are supposed to be decimal numbers (down in the lowest decimal digit). IOW, the rightmost digit will ALWAYS have an error, and as you perform more and more calculations, those errors may "creep" upwards into the next digit, and the next etc. The more calculations you perform, the more error creep may possibly occur. BCD, and Currency IF it is based on BCD, will never have this error creep since the system is based on exact representations of decimal DIGITS and no binary representation is ever used at any stage of the calculation. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Wortz, Charles Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 8:42 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Pedro, You seem to have a misconception of how computers work. They are binary (base 2) not decimal (base 10). Thus numbers can only be represented as the sum of powers of two. Since all integers (numbers without fractional parts) can be represented exactly as the sum of powers of two they can be stored and manipulated without any loss of precision (excepting division operations). All floating point numbers (numbers with fractional parts), except for those rare ones where the fractional part is an exact sum of powers of two, must be represented by an approximation of its value. The precision of a floating point number tell you how close to actual value the approximate value can come. Thus for Singles with about seven digits of precision, you know that up to the seventh digit accurately represent the actual value and any digits beyond that should not be counted on to be accurate. Thus you must choose between the exact representation of integers and the approximate representation of floating point numbers. In later versions of VB and other languages there is now a third choice, the currency datatype. This is a compromise between the two fundamental numeric datatypes. It is a scaled integer used to represent floating point numbers where you do not want more than four digits of precision for the fractional part. To get what you want, you must pick from these numeric datatypes and then use the proper rounding and formatting functions to get the numbers to display as you desire. There are no other choices if you are going to do it on a computer. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 08 06:17 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Hello Charlotte, i want truly round numbers with 1 precision. Pedro Janssen ----- Original Message ----- From: Charlotte Foust To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 7:41 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places You're going to have to explain whether you want to truly round numbers or just display them that way. The Decimal places setting addresses the display, not the precision. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl] Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 9:25 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Hello Charles, when i type 5,1 i type 5,1 and not . How does a computer changes 5,1 into 5,11415899 although i type 5,1. What is the use of decimal places:1, with field size: single, when the pc makes a lott of decimal places from it. Then this property better wasn't available when using numbers (not currency). Is there a way to roundup the numbers to 1decimal place without using currency. Pedro Janssen ----- Original Message ----- From: Wortz, Charles To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 5:42 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Pedro, Remember, you are working on a binary computer. Thus decimal numbers must be approximated as the sum of powers of two. For integer numbers these approximations are exact representations. For floating point numbers, these approximations are just that - approximations. None of your floating point numbers are stored with just one digit to the right of the decimal point, they are only displayed to you as such. If you cannot learn to live with floating point numbers, then convert them to the currency datatype. The currency datatype will meet many of you computational needs. Charles Wortz -----Original Message----- From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl] Sent: Monday 2003 Apr 07 10:30 To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Hello Group, i have a tableA with 5 fields (field size: single, decimal places:1) Not all fields have values. I want the difference from al those field, so i added a field diff. I made an update query with the following sql: UPDATE TableA SET TableA.[diff] = 100-Nz([field1],0)-Nz([[field2],0)- etc. etc.; The result that i get in field diff gives many records with more then 1 decimal places. For example: When i have a record which contains values like 5,1 and 94,9 (all values are typed in this way and are not calculated) i get as result 0,11176548 or a record that contains values like 20,5 and 20,5 i get as result 59,997854. Some result do have only one decimal place. How is this possible? TIA Pedro Janssen ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Tue Apr 8 08:40:02 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 08:40:02 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Message-ID: JC, Ah yes, BCD. I worked with it for many years. As far as I am aware, no modern binary computer still has this datatype as a native (hardware) numeric representation. You are correct in how it worked. On machines such as the IBM 1620 you could manipulate BCD numbers of any length you desired, up to the memory limits of the machine. This was back in the days when 16K was a lot of memory! One correction to your comments. Currency is not a floating point number datatype. AFAIK all languages that support the currency datatype represent it as a long integer in the hardware and use software to keep track of the implied decimal point. Thus it is referred to as a scaled integer. If anybody knows whether Intel, AMD or any of the other chip makers have imbedded the currency datatype into their hardware I would be interested in knowing that. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 08 08:12 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Charles, Are you sure that Currency is just a scaled floating pt number? I'm sure you know, but for the edification of those who may not, in the old days you had a form of data called BCD for binary coded decimal. BCD is a system where decimal DIGITS are stored in 4 bits. Since 4 bits can represent the values 1-15, any decimal digit can then be represented exactly without any rounding error at all due to inexact representation in binary storage. Then a program (functions in the math library) would manipulate strings of binary coded decimal DIGITS to allow absolutely precise decimal arithmetic out to the specified precision, with no errors introduced due to binary storage techniques. It was my understanding that the currency datatype was a BCD datatype, scaled to 4 decimal digits right of the decimal point. My understanding also is that floating point numbers are simply a binary approximation stored in an 80 bit number with various combinations of the bits used for the digit and the fraction. Thus NO floating point numbers (results) can be guaranteed to be correct if enough calculations are performed since the results are always stored back into a binary format, introducing binary storage errors in representing what are supposed to be decimal numbers (down in the lowest decimal digit). IOW, the rightmost digit will ALWAYS have an error, and as you perform more and more calculations, those errors may "creep" upwards into the next digit, and the next etc. The more calculations you perform, the more error creep may possibly occur. BCD, and Currency IF it is based on BCD, will never have this error creep since the system is based on exact representations of decimal DIGITS and no binary representation is ever used at any stage of the calculation. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Wortz, Charles Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 8:42 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Pedro, You seem to have a misconception of how computers work. They are binary (base 2) not decimal (base 10). Thus numbers can only be represented as the sum of powers of two. Since all integers (numbers without fractional parts) can be represented exactly as the sum of powers of two they can be stored and manipulated without any loss of precision (excepting division operations). All floating point numbers (numbers with fractional parts), except for those rare ones where the fractional part is an exact sum of powers of two, must be represented by an approximation of its value. The precision of a floating point number tell you how close to actual value the approximate value can come. Thus for Singles with about seven digits of precision, you know that up to the seventh digit accurately represent the actual value and any digits beyond that should not be counted on to be accurate. Thus you must choose between the exact representation of integers and the approximate representation of floating point numbers. In later versions of VB and other languages there is now a third choice, the currency datatype. This is a compromise between the two fundamental numeric datatypes. It is a scaled integer used to represent floating point numbers where you do not want more than four digits of precision for the fractional part. To get what you want, you must pick from these numeric datatypes and then use the proper rounding and formatting functions to get the numbers to display as you desire. There are no other choices if you are going to do it on a computer. Charles Wortz -----Original Message----- From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 08 06:17 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Hello Charlotte, i want truly round numbers with 1 precision. Pedro Janssen ----- Original Message ----- From: Charlotte Foust To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 7:41 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places You're going to have to explain whether you want to truly round numbers or just display them that way. The Decimal places setting addresses the display, not the precision. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl] Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 9:25 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Hello Charles, when i type 5,1 i type 5,1 and not . How does a computer changes 5,1 into 5,11415899 although i type 5,1. What is the use of decimal places:1, with field size: single, when the pc makes a lott of decimal places from it. Then this property better wasn't available when using numbers (not currency). Is there a way to roundup the numbers to 1decimal place without using currency. Pedro Janssen ----- Original Message ----- From: Wortz, Charles To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 5:42 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Pedro, Remember, you are working on a binary computer. Thus decimal numbers must be approximated as the sum of powers of two. For integer numbers these approximations are exact representations. For floating point numbers, these approximations are just that - approximations. None of your floating point numbers are stored with just one digit to the right of the decimal point, they are only displayed to you as such. If you cannot learn to live with floating point numbers, then convert them to the currency datatype. The currency datatype will meet many of you computational needs. Charles Wortz -----Original Message----- From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl] Sent: Monday 2003 Apr 07 10:30 To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Hello Group, i have a tableA with 5 fields (field size: single, decimal places:1) Not all fields have values. I want the difference from al those field, so i added a field diff. I made an update query with the following sql: UPDATE TableA SET TableA.[diff] = 100-Nz([field1],0)-Nz([[field2],0)- etc. etc.; The result that i get in field diff gives many records with more then 1 decimal places. For example: When i have a record which contains values like 5,1 and 94,9 (all values are typed in this way and are not calculated) i get as result 0,11176548 or a record that contains values like 20,5 and 20,5 i get as result 59,997854. Some result do have only one decimal place. How is this possible? TIA Pedro Janssen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From markH at bitgen.co.uk Tue Apr 8 08:41:06 2003 From: markH at bitgen.co.uk (Mark Hayes) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 14:41:06 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - easy one Message-ID: <000001c2fdd4$819efe90$0100a8c0@netboxxp> Hello all... This is probably very simple but I've only just started playing with data projects in XP. I am tring to set a db to currentdb but I keep getting the error that the object variable is not set. I have added a reference to dao 3.6 but I still can't use currentdb... E.g debug.print currentdb.name This fails with error 91 object variable not set Thanks in advance Mark --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 From chris at denverdb.com Tue Apr 8 08:56:53 2003 From: chris at denverdb.com (Chris Mackin) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 07:56:53 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - easy one In-Reply-To: <000001c2fdd4$819efe90$0100a8c0@netboxxp> Message-ID: There is no DAO database object in an .adp so CurrentDB() doesn't work. Some DAO code will work in .adp, but not the full package, you'll probably need to convert your code to ADO. Chris Mackin www.denverdb.com Denver Database Consulting, LLC -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mark Hayes Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:41 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - easy one Hello all... This is probably very simple but I've only just started playing with data projects in XP. I am tring to set a db to currentdb but I keep getting the error that the object variable is not set. I have added a reference to dao 3.6 but I still can't use currentdb... E.g debug.print currentdb.name This fails with error 91 object variable not set Thanks in advance Mark --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From markH at bitgen.co.uk Tue Apr 8 08:58:54 2003 From: markH at bitgen.co.uk (Mark Hayes) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 14:58:54 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - easy one In-Reply-To: <000001c2fdd4$819efe90$0100a8c0@netboxxp> Message-ID: <000601c2fdd7$00501740$0100a8c0@netboxxp> Should have added... I have looked at current project etc but I want to be able to set database and recordset variables as I would in access 97 Cheers Mark -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Hayes Sent: 08 April 2003 14:41 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - easy one Hello all... This is probably very simple but I've only just started playing with data projects in XP. I am tring to set a db to currentdb but I keep getting the error that the object variable is not set. I have added a reference to dao 3.6 but I still can't use currentdb... E.g debug.print currentdb.name This fails with error 91 object variable not set Thanks in advance Mark --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Tue Apr 8 09:00:08 2003 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 10:00:08 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Message-ID: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF403897677@xlivmbx12.aig.com> To quote from the (much maligned) on-line help... Currency variables are stored as 64-bit (8-byte) numbers in an integer format, scaled by 10,000 to give a fixed-point number with 15 digits to the left of the decimal point and 4 digits to the right. As it's an integer value, even binary computers can do the match right. Integers are represented exactly. It's only floating point numbers where there are approximations. Lambert > -----Original Message----- > From: John W. Colby [SMTP:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 9:12 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places > > Charles, > > Are you sure that Currency is just a scaled floating pt number? I'm sure > you know, but for the edification of those who may not, in the old days > you had a form of data called BCD for binary coded decimal. BCD is a > system where decimal DIGITS are stored in 4 bits. Since 4 bits can > represent the values 1-15, any decimal digit can then be represented > exactly without any rounding error at all due to inexact representation in > binary storage. Then a program (functions in the math library) would > manipulate strings of binary coded decimal DIGITS to allow absolutely > precise decimal arithmetic out to the specified precision, with no errors > introduced due to binary storage techniques. It was my understanding that > the currency datatype was a BCD datatype, scaled to 4 decimal digits right > of the decimal point. > > My understanding also is that floating point numbers are simply a binary > approximation stored in an 80 bit number with various combinations of the > bits used for the digit and the fraction. Thus NO floating point numbers > (results) can be guaranteed to be correct if enough calculations are > performed since the results are always stored back into a binary format, > introducing binary storage errors in representing what are supposed to be > decimal numbers (down in the lowest decimal digit). IOW, the rightmost > digit will ALWAYS have an error, and as you perform more and more > calculations, those errors may "creep" upwards into the next digit, and > the next etc. The more calculations you perform, the more error creep may > possibly occur. > > BCD, and Currency IF it is based on BCD, will never have this error creep > since the system is based on exact representations of decimal DIGITS and > no binary representation is ever used at any stage of the calculation. > > John W. Colby From markH at bitgen.co.uk Tue Apr 8 09:00:23 2003 From: markH at bitgen.co.uk (Mark Hayes) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 15:00:23 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - easy one In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000701c2fdd7$33b65ae0$0100a8c0@netboxxp> Thanks Chris... Mark -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Chris Mackin Sent: 08 April 2003 14:57 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - easy one There is no DAO database object in an .adp so CurrentDB() doesn't work. Some DAO code will work in .adp, but not the full package, you'll probably need to convert your code to ADO. Chris Mackin www.denverdb.com Denver Database Consulting, LLC -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mark Hayes Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:41 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - easy one Hello all... This is probably very simple but I've only just started playing with data projects in XP. I am tring to set a db to currentdb but I keep getting the error that the object variable is not set. I have added a reference to dao 3.6 but I still can't use currentdb... E.g debug.print currentdb.name This fails with error 91 object variable not set Thanks in advance Mark --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 From markH at bitgen.co.uk Tue Apr 8 09:26:57 2003 From: markH at bitgen.co.uk (Mark Hayes) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 15:26:57 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - recordsets and current project In-Reply-To: <000701c2fdd7$33b65ae0$0100a8c0@netboxxp> Message-ID: <000001c2fdda$e8ef7420$0100a8c0@netboxxp> Hello again I have an access project which I have created from an access 97 database. I would like to be able to create recordsets etc. but am unsure as to the format. I understand that I need to create connetions etc. but I want to work with the current project. Could you please give an example of working with an ADO recordset from the current project. Think I'm missing something here... Thanks again Mark -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Hayes Sent: 08 April 2003 15:00 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - easy one Thanks Chris... Mark -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Chris Mackin Sent: 08 April 2003 14:57 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - easy one There is no DAO database object in an .adp so CurrentDB() doesn't work. Some DAO code will work in .adp, but not the full package, you'll probably need to convert your code to ADO. Chris Mackin www.denverdb.com Denver Database Consulting, LLC -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mark Hayes Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:41 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - easy one Hello all... This is probably very simple but I've only just started playing with data projects in XP. I am tring to set a db to currentdb but I keep getting the error that the object variable is not set. I have added a reference to dao 3.6 but I still can't use currentdb... E.g debug.print currentdb.name This fails with error 91 object variable not set Thanks in advance Mark --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 From hsimpson88 at hotmail.com Tue Apr 8 09:42:17 2003 From: hsimpson88 at hotmail.com (Henry Simpson) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 08:42:17 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Hyperlinks by automation Message-ID: I have an Access 97 procedure that creates a series of Word 97 Doc invoices and adds a row in an Excel 97 sheet summarizing each invoice as it generates each document. Each document is saved into a specific project folder determined by the application. In the past, the code also did a .SaveAs to an invoicing folder created for the year and month so that all the documents could be retrieved from a single location. This made it easy to just drag all the files from Explorer to a single email to accounting. The alternative had been to open each project record, open the linked folder and drag one document at a time which was very tedious when there were many invoices. The monthly group folder was supposed to be temporary but because of the convenience of being able to work with multiple invoices in a single location, some users were inclined to make required revisions to invoices in this location rather than in the project folder. The end result was that we wound up with document version issues. I've been implementing an alternate solution where the access application inserts a hyperlink to each invoice document in the Excel summary sheet. The advantage is that when a user makes a revision, he is reminded by the presence of the Excel sheet to update the Excel entry and users have a single place from which all invoices can be conveniently opened and the document is the one in the actual project folder. Mail traffic is also reduced since we had anywhere from 80 to 200 documents of about 25k size that were being attached. Also, because I use a UNC link, the sheet works to open pertinent documents from anywhere on the WAN. Not having worked with hyperlinks before, I've run into an annoyance. When a user merely clicks on a hyperlink, the Word doc opens but the Excel workbook closes leaving the Excel application open. In order to keep the Excel workbook open, it is necessary for users to right click the hyperlink and select the hyperlink context sensitive menu item and then select Open in New Window from a fly out menu. All this mousing and clicking is annoying and I would prefer that Excel remain open if the user simply (left) clicks the hyperlink. Is there any way to implement this? Hen _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com Tue Apr 8 09:45:33 2003 From: jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 10:45:33 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MessageCharles, AFAIK, no machine ever had this as a native instruction or datatype, it was always represented as a string of digits, manipulated in memory, by math functions. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Wortz, Charles Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 9:40 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places JC, Ah yes, BCD. I worked with it for many years. As far as I am aware, no modern binary computer still has this datatype as a native (hardware) numeric representation. You are correct in how it worked. On machines such as the IBM 1620 you could manipulate BCD numbers of any length you desired, up to the memory limits of the machine. This was back in the days when 16K was a lot of memory! One correction to your comments. Currency is not a floating point number datatype. AFAIK all languages that support the currency datatype represent it as a long integer in the hardware and use software to keep track of the implied decimal point. Thus it is referred to as a scaled integer. If anybody knows whether Intel, AMD or any of the other chip makers have imbedded the currency datatype into their hardware I would be interested in knowing that. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 08 08:12 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Charles, Are you sure that Currency is just a scaled floating pt number? I'm sure you know, but for the edification of those who may not, in the old days you had a form of data called BCD for binary coded decimal. BCD is a system where decimal DIGITS are stored in 4 bits. Since 4 bits can represent the values 1-15, any decimal digit can then be represented exactly without any rounding error at all due to inexact representation in binary storage. Then a program (functions in the math library) would manipulate strings of binary coded decimal DIGITS to allow absolutely precise decimal arithmetic out to the specified precision, with no errors introduced due to binary storage techniques. It was my understanding that the currency datatype was a BCD datatype, scaled to 4 decimal digits right of the decimal point. My understanding also is that floating point numbers are simply a binary approximation stored in an 80 bit number with various combinations of the bits used for the digit and the fraction. Thus NO floating point numbers (results) can be guaranteed to be correct if enough calculations are performed since the results are always stored back into a binary format, introducing binary storage errors in representing what are supposed to be decimal numbers (down in the lowest decimal digit). IOW, the rightmost digit will ALWAYS have an error, and as you perform more and more calculations, those errors may "creep" upwards into the next digit, and the next etc. The more calculations you perform, the more error creep may possibly occur. BCD, and Currency IF it is based on BCD, will never have this error creep since the system is based on exact representations of decimal DIGITS and no binary representation is ever used at any stage of the calculation. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Wortz, Charles Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 8:42 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Pedro, You seem to have a misconception of how computers work. They are binary (base 2) not decimal (base 10). Thus numbers can only be represented as the sum of powers of two. Since all integers (numbers without fractional parts) can be represented exactly as the sum of powers of two they can be stored and manipulated without any loss of precision (excepting division operations). All floating point numbers (numbers with fractional parts), except for those rare ones where the fractional part is an exact sum of powers of two, must be represented by an approximation of its value. The precision of a floating point number tell you how close to actual value the approximate value can come. Thus for Singles with about seven digits of precision, you know that up to the seventh digit accurately represent the actual value and any digits beyond that should not be counted on to be accurate. Thus you must choose between the exact representation of integers and the approximate representation of floating point numbers. In later versions of VB and other languages there is now a third choice, the currency datatype. This is a compromise between the two fundamental numeric datatypes. It is a scaled integer used to represent floating point numbers where you do not want more than four digits of precision for the fractional part. To get what you want, you must pick from these numeric datatypes and then use the proper rounding and formatting functions to get the numbers to display as you desire. There are no other choices if you are going to do it on a computer. Charles Wortz -----Original Message----- From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 08 06:17 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Hello Charlotte, i want truly round numbers with 1 precision. Pedro Janssen ----- Original Message ----- From: Charlotte Foust To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 7:41 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places You're going to have to explain whether you want to truly round numbers or just display them that way. The Decimal places setting addresses the display, not the precision. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl] Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 9:25 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Hello Charles, when i type 5,1 i type 5,1 and not . How does a computer changes 5,1 into 5,11415899 although i type 5,1. What is the use of decimal places:1, with field size: single, when the pc makes a lott of decimal places from it. Then this property better wasn't available when using numbers (not currency). Is there a way to roundup the numbers to 1decimal place without using currency. Pedro Janssen ----- Original Message ----- From: Wortz, Charles To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 5:42 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Pedro, Remember, you are working on a binary computer. Thus decimal numbers must be approximated as the sum of powers of two. For integer numbers these approximations are exact representations. For floating point numbers, these approximations are just that - approximations. None of your floating point numbers are stored with just one digit to the right of the decimal point, they are only displayed to you as such. If you cannot learn to live with floating point numbers, then convert them to the currency datatype. The currency datatype will meet many of you computational needs. Charles Wortz -----Original Message----- From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl] Sent: Monday 2003 Apr 07 10:30 To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Hello Group, i have a tableA with 5 fields (field size: single, decimal places:1) Not all fields have values. I want the difference from al those field, so i added a field diff. I made an update query with the following sql: UPDATE TableA SET TableA.[diff] = 100-Nz([field1],0)-Nz([[field2],0)- etc. etc.; The result that i get in field diff gives many records with more then 1 decimal places. For example: When i have a record which contains values like 5,1 and 94,9 (all values are typed in this way and are not calculated) i get as result 0,11176548 or a record that contains values like 20,5 and 20,5 i get as result 59,997854. Some result do have only one decimal place. How is this possible? TIA Pedro Janssen ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hsimpson88 at hotmail.com Tue Apr 8 10:09:22 2003 From: hsimpson88 at hotmail.com (Henry Simpson) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 09:09:22 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Message-ID: Pedro: You are thinking in base 10 so perhaps an example in base 10 will help. What is the value of 1/3 in base ten to one decimal place and how close is that to the actual value of 1/3. In base 3 it is an exact value but in base 10, it is an approximation. Fractional numbers in Base 2 also are a mere approximation of base 10 numbers. There are numbers like .5, .75, .125, .375 that are exact number in both base systems, but numbers like .1 can not be exactly represented as they have an infinite number of decimal places in base 2 just as 1/3 has an infinite number of decimal places in base 10. Hen >From: "Pedro Janssen" >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >To: >Subject: Re: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places >Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 13:16:21 +0200 > >Hello Charles, > >I use single as datatyping. >Here are a few values that i received as result: > >2,199998 >0,2000008 >0,2999992 >3,799999 >-1,430511E-06 >1,519918E-06 >-1,937151E-07 > >this result i received from numbers that were entered directly in the >Table.(see first mail) > >I don't know what hardware specifications you need, but its a laptop >Acer Travelmate 620, Pentium III, CPU1000MHz >535MHz and 248MB RAM, WindowsXP, Home edition > >Pedro Janssen > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Wortz, Charles" >To: >Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 8:03 PM >Subject: RE: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places > > > > Pedro, > > > > Are you datatyping your numbers as Single or Double? Even with Single > > you get approximately seven (7) digits of precision. Thus your 5,1 will > > be stored as some value between 5,000005 and 5,100005. The value you > > claim is far outside of this range, leading me to conclude it is a > > calculated value, not a value you entered directly. If it is a value > > you entered directly, then please inform us of the hardware > > specifications of your computer since it does not meet any of the > > worldwide specifications for handling floating point numbers. > > Charles Wortz > > Software Development Division > > Texas Education Agency > > 1701 N. Congress Ave > > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > > 512-463-9493 > > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] > > Sent: Monday 2003 Apr 07 12:42 > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places > > > > > > You're going to have to explain whether you want to truly round numbers > > or just display them that way. The Decimal places setting addresses the > > display, not the precision. > > > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl] > > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 9:25 AM > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places > > > > > > Hello Charles, > > > > when i type 5,1 i type 5,1 and not . > > How does a computer changes 5,1 into 5,11415899 although i type 5,1. > > > > What is the use of decimal places:1, with field size: single, when the > > pc makes a lott of decimal places from it. Then this property better > > wasn't available when using numbers (not currency). > > Is there a way to roundup the numbers to 1decimal place without using > > currency. > > > > Pedro Janssen > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Wortz, Charles > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 5:42 PM > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places > > > > > > Pedro, > > > > Remember, you are working on a binary computer. Thus decimal numbers > > must be approximated as the sum of powers of two. For integer numbers > > these approximations are exact representations. For floating point > > numbers, these approximations are just that - approximations. None of > > your floating point numbers are stored with just one digit to the right > > of the decimal point, they are only displayed to you as such. > > > > If you cannot learn to live with floating point numbers, then convert > > them to the currency datatype. The currency datatype will meet many of > > you computational needs. > > > > > > Charles Wortz > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl] > > Sent: Monday 2003 Apr 07 10:30 > > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places > > > > > > Hello Group, > > > > i have a tableA with 5 fields (field size: single, decimal places:1) > > Not all fields have values. > > I want the difference from al those field, so i added a field diff. > > I made an update query with the following sql: > > > > UPDATE TableA SET TableA.[diff] = 100-Nz([field1],0)-Nz([[field2],0)- > > etc. etc.; > > > > The result that i get in field diff gives many records with more then 1 > > decimal places. > > > > For example: When i have a record which contains values like 5,1 and > > 94,9 (all values are typed in this way and are not calculated) i get as > > result 0,11176548 > > or a record that contains values like 20,5 and 20,5 i get as result > > 59,997854. > > Some result do have only one decimal place. > > > > How is this possible? > > > > TIA > > > > Pedro Janssen _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From jim.hale at fleetpride.com Tue Apr 8 10:16:18 2003 From: jim.hale at fleetpride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 10:16:18 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! Message-ID: <869379ABF177D4118D3100508B5EF8730598571E@corp-es00> WOW! Great stuff. Thanks! Jim Hale -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 7:16 PM To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! Actually, they have been up for almost a week. It's just taken me a while to finish up some of the code issues, and to add some info/help pages. http://www.wolfwares.com/AccessD Right now the archives are using my Wolfwares.com 'theme', but hopefully in the near future they will match the dba website. (The webmaster for dba has access to these files, so when he gets the chance, he'll be modifying my pages to match the 'new' dba site). Drew _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Tue Apr 8 10:27:31 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 08:27:31 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - recordsets andcurrent project Message-ID: You have an ADP you converted from an A97 project? Using ADO, you can set the recordset's connection property to CurrentProject.ActiveConnection. You're best best is to get yourself a good book on ADO. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Mark Hayes [mailto:markH at bitgen.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 6:27 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - recordsets andcurrent project Hello again I have an access project which I have created from an access 97 database. I would like to be able to create recordsets etc. but am unsure as to the format. I understand that I need to create connetions etc. but I want to work with the current project. Could you please give an example of working with an ADO recordset from the current project. Think I'm missing something here... Thanks again Mark -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Hayes Sent: 08 April 2003 15:00 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - easy one Thanks Chris... Mark -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Chris Mackin Sent: 08 April 2003 14:57 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - easy one There is no DAO database object in an .adp so CurrentDB() doesn't work. Some DAO code will work in .adp, but not the full package, you'll probably need to convert your code to ADO. Chris Mackin www.denverdb.com Denver Database Consulting, LLC -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mark Hayes Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:41 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - easy one Hello all... This is probably very simple but I've only just started playing with data projects in XP. I am tring to set a db to currentdb but I keep getting the error that the object variable is not set. I have added a reference to dao 3.6 but I still can't use currentdb... E.g debug.print currentdb.name This fails with error 91 object variable not set Thanks in advance Mark --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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Message-ID: But I seem to recall that Access 2.0 transactions had some limitations that disappeared in later versions. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 4:48 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stop That Code! Hi William and Mark Actually from Access 2.0 and forward ... /gustav > You can do transactions in A97 and DAO. > Mark Whittinghill > ...if records are being changed, transaction processing is the only > safe way to accomplish it since you need to be able to safely back out > of any changes made ...afaik transaction processing is supported > natively in Access only in Jet4/ADO apps and even then its pretty > basic functionality ...with DAO or A97, you either roll your own or > switch to a SQL Server be where transaction processing support is both > rich and native ...having rolled my own Access transaction processing > before, I can promise you that its a pita ...HTH :) _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Tue Apr 8 10:32:08 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 08:32:08 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] GoToPage Errors (Access 97 and 2002) Message-ID: Sure, send it along. I gave up and used a tab control, which was better for the purposes of this subform anyhow, but I'd be interested in taking a look. I've done this before, but it was years ago and I don't have samples any more. The problem only arose on a Windows XP machine, so I don't know whether I'll have to wind up retrofitting some of our existing apps or not. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Michael R Mattys [mailto:michael.mattys at adelphia.net] Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 7:58 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] GoToPage Errors (Access 97 and 2002) Charlotte, Did you solve your problem? I was browsing my collection and found a sample from Stuart McCall called EasyWiz that deals specifically with moving from one page to another on a long form with pagebreaks. If you'd like, I can send it along. Michael R. Mattys www.mattysconsulting.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From markH at bitgen.co.uk Tue Apr 8 10:38:54 2003 From: markH at bitgen.co.uk (Mark Hayes) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 16:38:54 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - recordsetsandcurrent project In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c2fde4$f6161b90$0100a8c0@netboxxp> Thanks Charlotte... What would you think about linking tables from an MDB to the backend instead of creating a project? This would save me re-writing a lot of code, but would I be missing out on much? Cheers... Mark -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: 08 April 2003 16:28 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - recordsetsandcurrent project You have an ADP you converted from an A97 project? Using ADO, you can set the recordset's connection property to CurrentProject.ActiveConnection. You're best best is to get yourself a good book on ADO. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Mark Hayes [mailto:markH at bitgen.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 6:27 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - recordsets andcurrent project Hello again I have an access project which I have created from an access 97 database. I would like to be able to create recordsets etc. but am unsure as to the format. I understand that I need to create connetions etc. but I want to work with the current project. Could you please give an example of working with an ADO recordset from the current project. Think I'm missing something here... Thanks again Mark -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Hayes Sent: 08 April 2003 15:00 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - easy one Thanks Chris... Mark -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Chris Mackin Sent: 08 April 2003 14:57 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - easy one There is no DAO database object in an .adp so CurrentDB() doesn't work. Some DAO code will work in .adp, but not the full package, you'll probably need to convert your code to ADO. Chris Mackin www.denverdb.com Denver Database Consulting, LLC -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mark Hayes Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:41 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - easy one Hello all... This is probably very simple but I've only just started playing with data projects in XP. I am tring to set a db to currentdb but I keep getting the error that the object variable is not set. I have added a reference to dao 3.6 but I still can't use currentdb... E.g debug.print currentdb.name This fails with error 91 object variable not set Thanks in advance Mark --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 From szayko at secor.com Tue Apr 8 10:41:01 2003 From: szayko at secor.com (Stephen R. Zayko) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 11:41:01 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Driver In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002a01c2fde5$434f3e00$283da8c0@secor024> Group: Is it possible to include the drivers needed for a runtime solution? I have an A2K database which I would like to package as a runtime. It is an A2K FE with a MySQL BE accessed via ODBC through the web. Trouble with the distribution is that people must install the MySQL ODBC driver, and then create/link to the machine data source of the MySQL database (I think I said that right). What I would like to do is this... Create the runtime with the drivers and the source database info. Then when a user unpacks/installs the runtime, A: The MYSQL driver installs on that machine and B: The ODBC data source is created with all the needed info. A looks pretty simple to do. You just include that in the files to be included during the packaging of the app. B however, I am not too sure about. Can I do this through code? Has anyone else done this before? thanks in advance. -Z Stephen R. Zayko SECOR International Inc. 2321 Club meridian Drive Ste. E Okemos MI, 48864 517 349 9499 ph 517 349 6863 fx szayko at secor.com www.secorlansing.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2200 bytes Desc: not available URL: From gustav at cactus.dk Tue Apr 8 10:48:59 2003 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 17:48:59 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Stop That Code! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <17631708714.20030408174859@cactus.dk> Hi Charlotte Not that I know of. I used them a lot. But you may be right. Some features were added later, though, like flush cache. /gustav > But I seem to recall that Access 2.0 transactions had some limitations > that disappeared in later versions. > Charlotte Foust > -----Original Message----- > From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 4:48 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stop That Code! > Hi William and Mark > Actually from Access 2.0 and forward ... > /gustav >> You can do transactions in A97 and DAO. >> Mark Whittinghill >> ...if records are being changed, transaction processing is the only >> safe way to accomplish it since you need to be able to safely back out >> of any changes made ...afaik transaction processing is supported >> natively in Access only in Jet4/ADO apps and even then its pretty >> basic functionality ...with DAO or A97, you either roll your own or >> switch to a SQL Server be where transaction processing support is both >> rich and native ...having rolled my own Access transaction processing >> before, I can promise you that its a pita ...HTH :) From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Tue Apr 8 10:49:12 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 08:49:12 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP -recordsetsandcurrent project Message-ID: You miss out on some of the speed of SQL Server and you can't directly manipulate the tables and stored procedures from an MDB. However, if all you want to do for now is move your database to SQL Server, it would be a lot easier for you to make the transition using an MDB. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Mark Hayes [mailto:markH at bitgen.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:39 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP -recordsetsandcurrent project Thanks Charlotte... What would you think about linking tables from an MDB to the backend instead of creating a project? This would save me re-writing a lot of code, but would I be missing out on much? Cheers... Mark -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: 08 April 2003 16:28 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - recordsetsandcurrent project You have an ADP you converted from an A97 project? Using ADO, you can set the recordset's connection property to CurrentProject.ActiveConnection. You're best best is to get yourself a good book on ADO. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Mark Hayes [mailto:markH at bitgen.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 6:27 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - recordsets andcurrent project Hello again I have an access project which I have created from an access 97 database. I would like to be able to create recordsets etc. but am unsure as to the format. I understand that I need to create connetions etc. but I want to work with the current project. Could you please give an example of working with an ADO recordset from the current project. Think I'm missing something here... Thanks again Mark -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Hayes Sent: 08 April 2003 15:00 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - easy one Thanks Chris... Mark -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Chris Mackin Sent: 08 April 2003 14:57 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - easy one There is no DAO database object in an .adp so CurrentDB() doesn't work. Some DAO code will work in .adp, but not the full package, you'll probably need to convert your code to ADO. Chris Mackin www.denverdb.com Denver Database Consulting, LLC -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mark Hayes Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:41 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - easy one Hello all... This is probably very simple but I've only just started playing with data projects in XP. I am tring to set a db to currentdb but I keep getting the error that the object variable is not set. I have added a reference to dao 3.6 but I still can't use currentdb... E.g debug.print currentdb.name This fails with error 91 object variable not set Thanks in advance Mark --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Tue Apr 8 10:50:17 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 08:50:17 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Driver Message-ID: What are you using to build the installer? One of the script driven installers, like Wise or InstallShield should allow you to do this. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stephen R. Zayko Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:41 AM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Driver Group: Is it possible to include the drivers needed for a runtime solution? I have an A2K database which I would like to package as a runtime. It is an A2K FE with a MySQL BE accessed via ODBC through the web. Trouble with the distribution is that people must install the MySQL ODBC driver, and then create/link to the machine data source of the MySQL database (I think I said that right). What I would like to do is this... Create the runtime with the drivers and the source database info. Then when a user unpacks/installs the runtime, A: The MYSQL driver installs on that machine and B: The ODBC data source is created with all the needed info. A looks pretty simple to do. You just include that in the files to be included during the packaging of the app. B however, I am not too sure about. Can I do this through code? Has anyone else done this before? thanks in advance. -Z Stephen R. Zayko SECOR International Inc. 2321 Club meridian Drive Ste. E Okemos MI, 48864 517 349 9499 ph 517 349 6863 fx szayko at secor.com www.secorlansing.com From dwaters at usinternet.com Tue Apr 8 10:52:03 2003 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 10:52:03 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! In-Reply-To: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D8261A@main2.marlow.com> Message-ID: <000501c2fde6$ccfd1a40$de1811d8@DanWaters> Thanks Drew! I will certainly make use of this. Dan Waters -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 6:16 PM To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! Actually, they have been up for almost a week. It's just taken me a while to finish up some of the code issues, and to add some info/help pages. http://www.wolfwares.com/AccessD Right now the archives are using my Wolfwares.com 'theme', but hopefully in the near future they will match the dba website. (The webmaster for dba has access to these files, so when he gets the chance, he'll be modifying my pages to match the 'new' dba site). Drew _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Tue Apr 8 10:53:36 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 08:53:36 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Stop That Code! Message-ID: I used them a lot too, but it seems to me there was something about them being contained in a single routine. It's been so long ago, I can't recall, but I remember having to work around their shortcomings in that version. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:49 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stop That Code! Hi Charlotte Not that I know of. I used them a lot. But you may be right. Some features were added later, though, like flush cache. /gustav > But I seem to recall that Access 2.0 transactions had some limitations > that disappeared in later versions. > Charlotte Foust > -----Original Message----- > From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 4:48 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stop That Code! > Hi William and Mark > Actually from Access 2.0 and forward ... > /gustav >> You can do transactions in A97 and DAO. >> Mark Whittinghill >> ...if records are being changed, transaction processing is the only >> safe way to accomplish it since you need to be able to safely back out >> of any changes made ...afaik transaction processing is supported >> natively in Access only in Jet4/ADO apps and even then its pretty >> basic functionality ...with DAO or A97, you either roll your own or >> switch to a SQL Server be where transaction processing support is both >> rich and native ...having rolled my own Access transaction processing >> before, I can promise you that its a pita ...HTH :) _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From my.lists at verizon.net Tue Apr 8 10:59:00 2003 From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 08:59:00 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP -recordsetsandcurrent project References: <000001c2fde4$f6161b90$0100a8c0@netboxxp> Message-ID: <002601c2fde7$c59208f0$b615010a@FHTAPIA> Mark, This is *THE* best website I know about for ADO code. http://www.able-consulting.com/tech.htm !YES! you would be missing out on the whole point to moving to a SQL Server database. You see with SQL are your queries are now in the backend, and whenever you need any data you ask sql to get it for you instead of dragging that info accross the network only to not use most of it. Plus OLE-DB is *much* faster than ODBC. It IS a flatter model, but it is designed this way to enable it to be a data access layer for more than one type of connection (ie, Oracle, Jet, Sql, etc). -Francisco http://rcm.netfirms.com On Tuesday, April 08, 2003 8:38 AM [GMT-8], Mark Hayes wrote: : Thanks Charlotte... : : What would you think about linking tables from an MDB to the backend : instead of creating a project? : : This would save me re-writing a lot of code, but would I be missing : out on much? : : Cheers... : : Mark : : -----Original Message----- : From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com : [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte : Foust : Sent: 08 April 2003 16:28 : To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com : Subject: RE: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - : recordsetsandcurrent project : : : You have an ADP you converted from an A97 project? Using ADO, you can : set the recordset's connection property to : CurrentProject.ActiveConnection. You're best best is to get yourself : a good book on ADO. : : Charlotte Foust : : -----Original Message----- : From: Mark Hayes [mailto:markH at bitgen.co.uk] : Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 6:27 AM : To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com : Subject: RE: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - recordsets : andcurrent project : : : Hello again : : I have an access project which I have created from an access 97 : database. : : I would like to be able to create recordsets etc. but am unsure as to : the format. I understand that I need to create connetions etc. but I : want to work with the current project. : : Could you please give an example of working with an ADO recordset from : the current project. Think I'm missing something here... : : Thanks again : : Mark : : -----Original Message----- : From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com : [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Hayes : Sent: 08 April 2003 15:00 : To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com : Subject: RE: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - easy one : : : Thanks Chris... : : Mark : : -----Original Message----- : From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com : [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Chris : Mackin Sent: 08 April 2003 14:57 : To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com : Subject: RE: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - easy one : : : There is no DAO database object in an .adp so CurrentDB() doesn't : work. Some DAO code will work in .adp, but not the full package, : you'll probably need to convert your code to ADO. : : Chris Mackin : www.denverdb.com : Denver Database Consulting, LLC : : : -----Original Message----- : From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com : [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mark Hayes : Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:41 AM : To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com : Subject: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - easy one : : : Hello all... : : This is probably very simple but I've only just started playing with : data projects in XP. : : I am tring to set a db to currentdb but I keep getting the error that : the object variable is not set. I have added a reference to dao 3.6 : but I still can't use currentdb... : : E.g : : debug.print currentdb.name : : This fails with error 91 object variable not set : : Thanks in advance : : Mark : : --- : Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. : Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). : Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 : : : --- : Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. : Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). : Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 : : : _______________________________________________ : AccessD mailing list : AccessD at databaseadvisors.com : http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd : Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com : : : : _______________________________________________ : AccessD mailing list : AccessD at databaseadvisors.com : http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd : Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com : : --- : Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. : Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). : Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 : : : --- : Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. : Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). : Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 : : : _______________________________________________ : AccessD mailing list : AccessD at databaseadvisors.com : http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd : Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com : : --- : Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. : Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). : Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 : : : --- : Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. : Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). : Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 : : : _______________________________________________ : AccessD mailing list : AccessD at databaseadvisors.com : http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd : Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com : _______________________________________________ : AccessD mailing list : AccessD at databaseadvisors.com : http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd : Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com : : --- : Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. : Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). : Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 : : : --- : Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. : Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). : Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 : : : _______________________________________________ : AccessD mailing list : AccessD at databaseadvisors.com : http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd : Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Jdemarco at hshhp.org Tue Apr 8 11:14:38 2003 From: Jdemarco at hshhp.org (Jim DeMarco) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 12:14:38 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Hyperlinks by automation Message-ID: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F99D85839@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com> Henry, What about using an Excel Forms command button and VBA code to do the same thing? Not as pretty but you'd have control of the screen. HTH, Jim DeMarco Director of Product Development HealthSource/Hudson Health Plan -----Original Message----- From: Henry Simpson [mailto:hsimpson88 at hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 10:42 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] OT: Hyperlinks by automation I have an Access 97 procedure that creates a series of Word 97 Doc invoices and adds a row in an Excel 97 sheet summarizing each invoice as it generates each document. Each document is saved into a specific project folder determined by the application. In the past, the code also did a .SaveAs to an invoicing folder created for the year and month so that all the documents could be retrieved from a single location. This made it easy to just drag all the files from Explorer to a single email to accounting. The alternative had been to open each project record, open the linked folder and drag one document at a time which was very tedious when there were many invoices. The monthly group folder was supposed to be temporary but because of the convenience of being able to work with multiple invoices in a single location, some users were inclined to make required revisions to invoices in this location rather than in the project folder. The end result was that we wound up with document version issues. I've been implementing an alternate solution where the access application inserts a hyperlink to each invoice document in the Excel summary sheet. The advantage is that when a user makes a revision, he is reminded by the presence of the Excel sheet to update the Excel entry and users have a single place from which all invoices can be conveniently opened and the document is the one in the actual project folder. Mail traffic is also reduced since we had anywhere from 80 to 200 documents of about 25k size that were being attached. Also, because I use a UNC link, the sheet works to open pertinent documents from anywhere on the WAN. Not having worked with hyperlinks before, I've run into an annoyance. When a user merely clicks on a hyperlink, the Word doc opens but the Excel workbook closes leaving the Excel application open. In order to keep the Excel workbook open, it is necessary for users to right click the hyperlink and select the hyperlink context sensitive menu item and then select Open in New Window from a fly out menu. All this mousing and clicking is annoying and I would prefer that Excel remain open if the user simply (left) clicks the hyperlink. Is there any way to implement this? Hen _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com *********************************************************************************** "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank You". *********************************************************************************** From szayko at secor.com Tue Apr 8 11:22:12 2003 From: szayko at secor.com (Stephen R. Zayko) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 12:22:12 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Driver In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003201c2fdeb$031bf160$283da8c0@secor024> I was just going to use the VBA Package and Deployment wizard that comes with the Office 2000 Developer CD. I have had it for 3 years now and never had a need for it until now. -Z Stephen R. Zayko SECOR International Inc. 2321 Club meridian Drive Ste. E Okemos MI, 48864 517 349 9499 ph 517 349 6863 fx szayko at secor.com www.secorlansing.com > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte > Foust > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 11:50 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Runtime Driver > > > What are you using to build the installer? One of the script driven > installers, like Wise or InstallShield should allow you to do this. > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stephen R. > Zayko > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:41 AM > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Driver > > > Group: > > Is it possible to include the drivers needed for a runtime > solution? I > have an A2K database which I would like to package as a > runtime. It is > an A2K FE with a MySQL BE accessed via ODBC through the web. Trouble > with the distribution is that people must install the MySQL > ODBC driver, > and then create/link to the machine data source of the MySQL > database (I > think I said that right). > > What I would like to do is this... > > Create the runtime with the drivers and the source database info. Then > when a user unpacks/installs the runtime, > A: The MYSQL driver installs on that machine and > B: The ODBC data source is created with all the needed info. > > A looks pretty simple to do. You just include that in the files to be > included during the packaging of the app. B however, I am not too sure > about. Can I do this through code? Has anyone else done this before? > > thanks in advance. > > -Z > > Stephen R. Zayko > > SECOR International Inc. > 2321 Club meridian Drive Ste. E > Okemos MI, 48864 > > 517 349 9499 ph > 517 349 6863 fx > > szayko at secor.com > www.secorlansing.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2804 bytes Desc: not available URL: From markH at bitgen.co.uk Tue Apr 8 11:25:57 2003 From: markH at bitgen.co.uk (Mark Hayes) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 17:25:57 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP -recordsetsandcurrentproject In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000501c2fdeb$8911eb30$0100a8c0@netboxxp> Thanks again :o) Mark -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: 08 April 2003 16:49 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP -recordsetsandcurrentproject You miss out on some of the speed of SQL Server and you can't directly manipulate the tables and stored procedures from an MDB. However, if all you want to do for now is move your database to SQL Server, it would be a lot easier for you to make the transition using an MDB. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Mark Hayes [mailto:markH at bitgen.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:39 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP -recordsetsandcurrent project Thanks Charlotte... What would you think about linking tables from an MDB to the backend instead of creating a project? This would save me re-writing a lot of code, but would I be missing out on much? Cheers... Mark -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: 08 April 2003 16:28 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - recordsetsandcurrent project You have an ADP you converted from an A97 project? Using ADO, you can set the recordset's connection property to CurrentProject.ActiveConnection. You're best best is to get yourself a good book on ADO. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Mark Hayes [mailto:markH at bitgen.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 6:27 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - recordsets andcurrent project Hello again I have an access project which I have created from an access 97 database. I would like to be able to create recordsets etc. but am unsure as to the format. I understand that I need to create connetions etc. but I want to work with the current project. Could you please give an example of working with an ADO recordset from the current project. Think I'm missing something here... Thanks again Mark -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Hayes Sent: 08 April 2003 15:00 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - easy one Thanks Chris... Mark -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Chris Mackin Sent: 08 April 2003 14:57 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - easy one There is no DAO database object in an .adp so CurrentDB() doesn't work. Some DAO code will work in .adp, but not the full package, you'll probably need to convert your code to ADO. Chris Mackin www.denverdb.com Denver Database Consulting, LLC -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mark Hayes Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:41 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - easy one Hello all... This is probably very simple but I've only just started playing with data projects in XP. I am tring to set a db to currentdb but I keep getting the error that the object variable is not set. I have added a reference to dao 3.6 but I still can't use currentdb... E.g debug.print currentdb.name This fails with error 91 object variable not set Thanks in advance Mark --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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Version: 6.0.470 / Virus Database: 268 - Release Date: 08/04/2003 From markH at bitgen.co.uk Tue Apr 8 11:27:54 2003 From: markH at bitgen.co.uk (Mark Hayes) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 17:27:54 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP -recordsetsandcurrentproject In-Reply-To: <002601c2fde7$c59208f0$b615010a@FHTAPIA> Message-ID: <000601c2fdeb$ce78cb80$0100a8c0@netboxxp> Thanks Franciso... Taking a look now. I have started to get some results already as I did some work a couple of years ago with active server pages and ADO... Its sort of coming back to me at last Thanks again Mark -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco H Tapia Sent: 08 April 2003 16:59 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP -recordsetsandcurrentproject Mark, This is *THE* best website I know about for ADO code. http://www.able-consulting.com/tech.htm !YES! you would be missing out on the whole point to moving to a SQL Server database. You see with SQL are your queries are now in the backend, and whenever you need any data you ask sql to get it for you instead of dragging that info accross the network only to not use most of it. Plus OLE-DB is *much* faster than ODBC. It IS a flatter model, but it is designed this way to enable it to be a data access layer for more than one type of connection (ie, Oracle, Jet, Sql, etc). -Francisco http://rcm.netfirms.com On Tuesday, April 08, 2003 8:38 AM [GMT-8], Mark Hayes wrote: : Thanks Charlotte... : : What would you think about linking tables from an MDB to the backend : instead of creating a project? : : This would save me re-writing a lot of code, but would I be missing : out on much? : : Cheers... : : Mark : : -----Original Message----- : From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com : [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte : Foust : Sent: 08 April 2003 16:28 : To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com : Subject: RE: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - : recordsetsandcurrent project : : : You have an ADP you converted from an A97 project? Using ADO, you can : set the recordset's connection property to : CurrentProject.ActiveConnection. You're best best is to get yourself : a good book on ADO. : : Charlotte Foust : : -----Original Message----- : From: Mark Hayes [mailto:markH at bitgen.co.uk] : Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 6:27 AM : To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com : Subject: RE: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - recordsets : andcurrent project : : : Hello again : : I have an access project which I have created from an access 97 : database. : : I would like to be able to create recordsets etc. but am unsure as to : the format. I understand that I need to create connetions etc. but I : want to work with the current project. : : Could you please give an example of working with an ADO recordset from : the current project. Think I'm missing something here... : : Thanks again : : Mark : : -----Original Message----- : From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com : [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Hayes : Sent: 08 April 2003 15:00 : To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com : Subject: RE: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - easy one : : : Thanks Chris... : : Mark : : -----Original Message----- : From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com : [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Chris : Mackin Sent: 08 April 2003 14:57 : To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com : Subject: RE: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - easy one : : : There is no DAO database object in an .adp so CurrentDB() doesn't : work. Some DAO code will work in .adp, but not the full package, : you'll probably need to convert your code to ADO. : : Chris Mackin : www.denverdb.com : Denver Database Consulting, LLC : : : -----Original Message----- : From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com : [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mark Hayes : Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:41 AM : To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com : Subject: [AccessD] FW: Problem with currentDB in ADP - easy one : : : Hello all... : : This is probably very simple but I've only just started playing with : data projects in XP. : : I am tring to set a db to currentdb but I keep getting the error that : the object variable is not set. I have added a reference to dao 3.6 : but I still can't use currentdb... : : E.g : : debug.print currentdb.name : : This fails with error 91 object variable not set : : Thanks in advance : : Mark : : --- : Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. : Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). : Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 : : : --- : Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. : Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). : Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 : : : _______________________________________________ : AccessD mailing list : AccessD at databaseadvisors.com : http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd : Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com : : : : _______________________________________________ : AccessD mailing list : AccessD at databaseadvisors.com : http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd : Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com : : --- : Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. : Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). : Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 : : : --- : Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. : Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). : Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 : : : _______________________________________________ : AccessD mailing list : AccessD at databaseadvisors.com : http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd : Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com : : --- : Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. : Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). : Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 : : : --- : Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. : Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). : Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 : : : _______________________________________________ : AccessD mailing list : AccessD at databaseadvisors.com : http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd : Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com : _______________________________________________ : AccessD mailing list : AccessD at databaseadvisors.com : http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd : Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com : : --- : Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. : Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). : Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 : : : --- : Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. : Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). : Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 : : : _______________________________________________ : AccessD mailing list : AccessD at databaseadvisors.com : http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd : Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.470 / Virus Database: 268 - Release Date: 08/04/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.470 / Virus Database: 268 - Release Date: 08/04/2003 From mikedorism at ntelos.net Tue Apr 8 11:32:23 2003 From: mikedorism at ntelos.net (Mike and Doris Manning) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 12:32:23 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Driver In-Reply-To: <002a01c2fde5$434f3e00$283da8c0@secor024> Message-ID: <008c01c2fdec$75186f40$16330cd8@hargrove.internal> I've got code that checks for a specified SQL Server System DSN and creates it if it doesn't exist. You should be able to modify it to work with MySQL. Email me offline if you want it. Doris Manning Database Administrator Hargrove Inc. www.hargroveinc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 11:41 AM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Driver Group: Is it possible to include the drivers needed for a runtime solution? I have an A2K database which I would like to package as a runtime. It is an A2K FE with a MySQL BE accessed via ODBC through the web. Trouble with the distribution is that people must install the MySQL ODBC driver, and then create/link to the machine data source of the MySQL database (I think I said that right). What I would like to do is this... Create the runtime with the drivers and the source database info. Then when a user unpacks/installs the runtime, A: The MYSQL driver installs on that machine and B: The ODBC data source is created with all the needed info. A looks pretty simple to do. You just include that in the files to be included during the packaging of the app. B however, I am not too sure about. Can I do this through code? Has anyone else done this before? thanks in advance. -Z Stephen R. Zayko SECOR International Inc. 2321 Club meridian Drive Ste. E Okemos MI, 48864 517 349 9499 ph 517 349 6863 fx szayko at secor.com www.secorlansing.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Tue Apr 8 11:43:18 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 11:43:18 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82621@main2.marlow.com> You're welcome. It's all Access! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Gary Kjos [mailto:garykjos at hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:34 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! Thanks Drew. The searches seem very quick. Gary Kjos garykjos at hotmail.com >From: Drew Wutka >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >To: "'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com'" >Subject: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! >Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 19:15:44 -0500 > >Actually, they have been up for almost a week. It's just taken me a while >to finish up some of the code issues, and to add some info/help pages. > >http://www.wolfwares.com/AccessD > >Right now the archives are using my Wolfwares.com 'theme', but hopefully in >the near future they will match the dba website. (The webmaster for dba >has >access to these files, so when he gets the chance, he'll be modifying my >pages to match the 'new' dba site). > >Drew > > >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Tue Apr 8 11:47:18 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 11:47:18 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82622@main2.marlow.com> You are right JC. Currency is based upon a Long integer, with the decimal point moved over 4. So it has no 'creep' like a floating point. Drew -----Original Message----- From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 8:12 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Charles, Are you sure that Currency is just a scaled floating pt number? I'm sure you know, but for the edification of those who may not, in the old days you had a form of data called BCD for binary coded decimal. BCD is a system where decimal DIGITS are stored in 4 bits. Since 4 bits can represent the values 1-15, any decimal digit can then be represented exactly without any rounding error at all due to inexact representation in binary storage. Then a program (functions in the math library) would manipulate strings of binary coded decimal DIGITS to allow absolutely precise decimal arithmetic out to the specified precision, with no errors introduced due to binary storage techniques. It was my understanding that the currency datatype was a BCD datatype, scaled to 4 decimal digits right of the decimal point. My understanding also is that floating point numbers are simply a binary approximation stored in an 80 bit number with various combinations of the bits used for the digit and the fraction. Thus NO floating point numbers (results) can be guaranteed to be correct if enough calculations are performed since the results are always stored back into a binary format, introducing binary storage errors in representing what are supposed to be decimal numbers (down in the lowest decimal digit). IOW, the rightmost digit will ALWAYS have an error, and as you perform more and more calculations, those errors may "creep" upwards into the next digit, and the next etc. The more calculations you perform, the more error creep may possibly occur. BCD, and Currency IF it is based on BCD, will never have this error creep since the system is based on exact representations of decimal DIGITS and no binary representation is ever used at any stage of the calculation. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Wortz, Charles Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 8:42 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Pedro, You seem to have a misconception of how computers work. They are binary (base 2) not decimal (base 10). Thus numbers can only be represented as the sum of powers of two. Since all integers (numbers without fractional parts) can be represented exactly as the sum of powers of two they can be stored and manipulated without any loss of precision (excepting division operations). All floating point numbers (numbers with fractional parts), except for those rare ones where the fractional part is an exact sum of powers of two, must be represented by an approximation of its value. The precision of a floating point number tell you how close to actual value the approximate value can come. Thus for Singles with about seven digits of precision, you know that up to the seventh digit accurately represent the actual value and any digits beyond that should not be counted on to be accurate. Thus you must choose between the exact representation of integers and the approximate representation of floating point numbers. In later versions of VB and other languages there is now a third choice, the currency datatype. This is a compromise between the two fundamental numeric datatypes. It is a scaled integer used to represent floating point numbers where you do not want more than four digits of precision for the fractional part. To get what you want, you must pick from these numeric datatypes and then use the proper rounding and formatting functions to get the numbers to display as you desire. There are no other choices if you are going to do it on a computer. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 08 06:17 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Hello Charlotte, i want truly round numbers with 1 precision. Pedro Janssen ----- Original Message ----- From: Charlotte Foust To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 7:41 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places You're going to have to explain whether you want to truly round numbers or just display them that way. The Decimal places setting addresses the display, not the precision. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Pedro Janssen [ mailto:pedro at plex.nl ] Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 9:25 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Hello Charles, when i type 5,1 i type 5,1 and not . How does a computer changes 5,1 into 5,11415899 although i type 5,1. What is the use of decimal places:1, with field size: single, when the pc makes a lott of decimal places from it. Then this property better wasn't available when using numbers (not currency). Is there a way to roundup the numbers to 1decimal place without using currency. Pedro Janssen ----- Original Message ----- From: Wortz, Charles To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 5:42 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Pedro, Remember, you are working on a binary computer. Thus decimal numbers must be approximated as the sum of powers of two. For integer numbers these approximations are exact representations. For floating point numbers, these approximations are just that - approximations. None of your floating point numbers are stored with just one digit to the right of the decimal point, they are only displayed to you as such. If you cannot learn to live with floating point numbers, then convert them to the currency datatype. The currency datatype will meet many of you computational needs. Charles Wortz -----Original Message----- From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl] Sent: Monday 2003 Apr 07 10:30 To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Hello Group, i have a tableA with 5 fields (field size: single, decimal places:1) Not all fields have values. I want the difference from al those field, so i added a field diff. I made an update query with the following sql: UPDATE TableA SET TableA.[diff] = 100-Nz([field1],0)-Nz([[field2],0)- etc. etc.; The result that i get in field diff gives many records with more then 1 decimal places. For example: When i have a record which contains values like 5,1 and 94,9 (all values are typed in this way and are not calculated) i get as result 0,11176548 or a record that contains values like 20,5 and 20,5 i get as result 59,997854. Some result do have only one decimal place. How is this possible? TIA Pedro Janssen _____ Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. 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Jim Hale -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [ mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com ] Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 7:16 PM To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! Actually, they have been up for almost a week. It's just taken me a while to finish up some of the code issues, and to add some info/help pages. http://www.wolfwares.com/AccessD Right now the archives are using my Wolfwares.com 'theme', but hopefully in the near future they will match the dba website. (The webmaster for dba has access to these files, so when he gets the chance, he'll be modifying my pages to match the 'new' dba site). Drew _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Jdemarco at hshhp.org Tue Apr 8 11:51:16 2003 From: Jdemarco at hshhp.org (Jim DeMarco) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 12:51:16 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! Message-ID: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F99D8583B@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com> Thanks Drew. Can I ask what your ASP code that opens a new window looks like? Thanks, Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 12:43 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! You're welcome. It's all Access! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Gary Kjos [mailto:garykjos at hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:34 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! Thanks Drew. The searches seem very quick. Gary Kjos garykjos at hotmail.com >From: Drew Wutka >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >To: "'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com'" >Subject: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! >Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 19:15:44 -0500 > >Actually, they have been up for almost a week. It's just taken me a while >to finish up some of the code issues, and to add some info/help pages. > >http://www.wolfwares.com/AccessD > >Right now the archives are using my Wolfwares.com 'theme', but hopefully in >the near future they will match the dba website. (The webmaster for dba >has >access to these files, so when he gets the chance, he'll be modifying my >pages to match the 'new' dba site). > >Drew > > >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com *********************************************************************************** "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank You". *********************************************************************************** From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Tue Apr 8 11:51:21 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 09:51:21 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Driver Message-ID: You have my sympathy. The MS-provided wizard is marginal at best and well worth its price--free. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stephen R. Zayko Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 8:22 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Runtime Driver I was just going to use the VBA Package and Deployment wizard that comes with the Office 2000 Developer CD. I have had it for 3 years now and never had a need for it until now. -Z Stephen R. Zayko SECOR International Inc. 2321 Club meridian Drive Ste. E Okemos MI, 48864 517 349 9499 ph 517 349 6863 fx szayko at secor.com www.secorlansing.com > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte > Foust > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 11:50 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Runtime Driver > > > What are you using to build the installer? One of the script driven > installers, like Wise or InstallShield should allow you to do this. > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stephen R. > Zayko > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:41 AM > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Driver > > > Group: > > Is it possible to include the drivers needed for a runtime > solution? I > have an A2K database which I would like to package as a > runtime. It is > an A2K FE with a MySQL BE accessed via ODBC through the web. Trouble > with the distribution is that people must install the MySQL > ODBC driver, > and then create/link to the machine data source of the MySQL > database (I > think I said that right). > > What I would like to do is this... > > Create the runtime with the drivers and the source database info. Then > when a user unpacks/installs the runtime, > A: The MYSQL driver installs on that machine and > B: The ODBC data source is created with all the needed info. > > A looks pretty simple to do. You just include that in the files to be > included during the packaging of the app. B however, I am not too sure > about. Can I do this through code? Has anyone else done this before? > > thanks in advance. > > -Z > > Stephen R. Zayko > > SECOR International Inc. > 2321 Club meridian Drive Ste. E > Okemos MI, 48864 > > 517 349 9499 ph > 517 349 6863 fx > > szayko at secor.com > www.secorlansing.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Tue Apr 8 11:52:37 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 11:52:37 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82624@main2.marlow.com> Just glad to have them up, so I can get William off of my back. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 10:52 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! Thanks Drew! I will certainly make use of this. Dan Waters -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 6:16 PM To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! Actually, they have been up for almost a week. It's just taken me a while to finish up some of the code issues, and to add some info/help pages. http://www.wolfwares.com/AccessD Right now the archives are using my Wolfwares.com 'theme', but hopefully in the near future they will match the dba website. (The webmaster for dba has access to these files, so when he gets the chance, he'll be modifying my pages to match the 'new' dba site). Drew _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jim.hale at fleetpride.com Tue Apr 8 11:55:09 2003 From: jim.hale at fleetpride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 11:55:09 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Hyperlinks by automation Message-ID: <869379ABF177D4118D3100508B5EF87305985775@corp-es00> You could create a hidden sheet with an Excel "database" (ie flat file). This worksheet could be updated from either Access or Excel as needed. Each "record" could have whatever the relevant fields you need (document name, customer, hyperlink, etc). For the user you would create a sheet with a dropdown box to select the relevant document. VBA code could then open the selected document. I have a model which loads data into an excel spreadsheet pivot table from Access using some of these techniques. You are welcome to a copy if you think it would be helpful. Jim Hale -----Original Message----- From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 11:15 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Hyperlinks by automation Henry, What about using an Excel Forms command button and VBA code to do the same thing? Not as pretty but you'd have control of the screen. HTH, Jim DeMarco Director of Product Development HealthSource/Hudson Health Plan -----Original Message----- From: Henry Simpson [mailto:hsimpson88 at hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 10:42 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] OT: Hyperlinks by automation I have an Access 97 procedure that creates a series of Word 97 Doc invoices and adds a row in an Excel 97 sheet summarizing each invoice as it generates each document. Each document is saved into a specific project folder determined by the application. In the past, the code also did a .SaveAs to an invoicing folder created for the year and month so that all the documents could be retrieved from a single location. This made it easy to just drag all the files from Explorer to a single email to accounting. The alternative had been to open each project record, open the linked folder and drag one document at a time which was very tedious when there were many invoices. The monthly group folder was supposed to be temporary but because of the convenience of being able to work with multiple invoices in a single location, some users were inclined to make required revisions to invoices in this location rather than in the project folder. The end result was that we wound up with document version issues. I've been implementing an alternate solution where the access application inserts a hyperlink to each invoice document in the Excel summary sheet. The advantage is that when a user makes a revision, he is reminded by the presence of the Excel sheet to update the Excel entry and users have a single place from which all invoices can be conveniently opened and the document is the one in the actual project folder. Mail traffic is also reduced since we had anywhere from 80 to 200 documents of about 25k size that were being attached. Also, because I use a UNC link, the sheet works to open pertinent documents from anywhere on the WAN. Not having worked with hyperlinks before, I've run into an annoyance. When a user merely clicks on a hyperlink, the Word doc opens but the Excel workbook closes leaving the Excel application open. In order to keep the Excel workbook open, it is necessary for users to right click the hyperlink and select the hyperlink context sensitive menu item and then select Open in New Window from a fly out menu. All this mousing and clicking is annoying and I would prefer that Excel remain open if the user simply (left) clicks the hyperlink. Is there any way to implement this? Hen _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com **************************************************************************** ******* "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank You". **************************************************************************** ******* _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From my.lists at verizon.net Tue Apr 8 12:00:26 2003 From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 10:00:26 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! References: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82621@main2.marlow.com> Message-ID: <003c01c2fdf0$5a39a1e0$b615010a@FHTAPIA> Who says Access can't be used for mission critical ;o) . I found your behinds the scenes link very informative. This of course is also very interesting. You've taken an otherwise weak point of access (memo's) and leveraged Access's strength in indexes. Very commendable and ingenious... One (me) might pose the question why do it in Access vs. MSDE or mySQL, but a good answer comes to mind :o). Often times there are solutions right under our nose that we overlook, but this is just a great example of thinking outside the box... great job... btw, I would have liked a date restricting function (for the actual dates) but since everything is displayed ascending or descending by date, this point is rather moot. :o) -Francisco http://rcm.netfirms.com On Tuesday, April 08, 2003 9:43 AM [GMT-8], Drew Wutka wrote: : You're welcome. It's all Access! : : Drew : : -----Original Message----- : From: Gary Kjos [mailto:garykjos at hotmail.com] : Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:34 AM : To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com : Subject: Re: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! : : : Thanks Drew. The searches seem very quick. : : Gary Kjos : garykjos at hotmail.com : : : : : :: From: Drew Wutka :: Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com :: To: "'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com'" :: Subject: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! :: Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 19:15:44 -0500 :: :: Actually, they have been up for almost a week. It's just taken me a :: while to finish up some of the code issues, and to add some :: info/help pages. :: :: http://www.wolfwares.com/AccessD :: :: Right now the archives are using my Wolfwares.com 'theme', but :: hopefully in the near future they will match the dba website. (The :: webmaster for dba has :: access to these files, so when he gets the chance, he'll be :: modifying my pages to match the 'new' dba site). :: :: Drew :: :: :: _______________________________________________ :: AccessD mailing list :: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com :: http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd :: Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com : : : _________________________________________________________________ : The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* : http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail : : _______________________________________________ : AccessD mailing list : AccessD at databaseadvisors.com : http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd : Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com : _______________________________________________ : AccessD mailing list : AccessD at databaseadvisors.com : http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd : Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From hsimpson88 at hotmail.com Tue Apr 8 11:58:40 2003 From: hsimpson88 at hotmail.com (Henry Simpson) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 10:58:40 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Hyperlinks by automation Message-ID: Thanks Jim: Your suggestion is the manner in which I would ordinarily have implemented this solution though I would probably just add a menu item when the workbook loads. Buttons really aren't that pretty on workbooks even though you can set them not to print. The code behind the workbook would be a simple shell execute declare and I would add a hidden column that stored the path string for each invoice rather than store it in the hyperlink. Then code in the menu event to pass the path from the currently selected row to the shell execute procedure and it's done. Using a coded procedure also allows the procedure to check for the continued existence of the file, and failing that, the folder and provide a more meaningful message to the user than 'Cannot open the specified file.' as well as provide the option to pass the project folder to the shell execute (which opens the project folder for exploring) should that exist. Never having used hyperlinks before, I thought it would be interesting to explore the possibilities and this seemed a logical and intuitive place, but the complete lack of error handling and control of error messages makes me wonder why anyone would use hyperlinks. If there really is no way to simply click on the hyperlink and keep the Excel workbook open, I will likely switch back to my old way of doing things. Hen >From: "Jim DeMarco" >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >To: >Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Hyperlinks by automation >Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 12:14:38 -0400 > >Henry, > >What about using an Excel Forms command button and VBA code to do the same >thing? Not as pretty but you'd have control of the screen. > >HTH, > >Jim DeMarco >Director of Product Development >HealthSource/Hudson Health Plan > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Henry Simpson [mailto:hsimpson88 at hotmail.com] >Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 10:42 AM >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >Subject: [AccessD] OT: Hyperlinks by automation > > >I have an Access 97 procedure that creates a series of Word 97 Doc invoices >and adds a row in an Excel 97 sheet summarizing each invoice as it >generates >each document. Each document is saved into a specific project folder >determined by the application. In the past, the code also did a .SaveAs to >an invoicing folder created for the year and month so that all the >documents >could be retrieved from a single location. This made it easy to just drag >all the files from Explorer to a single email to accounting. The >alternative had been to open each project record, open the linked folder >and >drag one document at a time which was very tedious when there were many >invoices. The monthly group folder was supposed to be temporary but >because >of the convenience of being able to work with multiple invoices in a single >location, some users were inclined to make required revisions to invoices >in >this location rather than in the project folder. The end result was that >we >wound up with document version issues. > >I've been implementing an alternate solution where the access application >inserts a hyperlink to each invoice document in the Excel summary sheet. >The advantage is that when a user makes a revision, he is reminded by the >presence of the Excel sheet to update the Excel entry and users have a >single place from which all invoices can be conveniently opened and the >document is the one in the actual project folder. Mail traffic is also >reduced since we had anywhere from 80 to 200 documents of about 25k size >that were being attached. Also, because I use a UNC link, the sheet works >to open pertinent documents from anywhere on the WAN. > >Not having worked with hyperlinks before, I've run into an annoyance. When >a user merely clicks on a hyperlink, the Word doc opens but the Excel >workbook closes leaving the Excel application open. In order to keep the >Excel workbook open, it is necessary for users to right click the hyperlink >and select the hyperlink context sensitive menu item and then select Open >in >New Window from a fly out menu. All this mousing and clicking is annoying >and I would prefer that Excel remain open if the user simply (left) clicks >the hyperlink. Is there any way to implement this? > >Hen > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > >*********************************************************************************** >"This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named >recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that >is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you >are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of >the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received >this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us >immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address >noted above or calling HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended >recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and >destroy all copies of this message. Thank You". >*********************************************************************************** > >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From DWUTKA at marlow.com Tue Apr 8 12:04:29 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 12:04:29 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82625@main2.marlow.com> What do you mean? Response.redirect changes the web page that is loading, but as far as I know, there is no way for ASP to directly have another window open. I have done something similar by having ASP write 'VBScript' that runs a window.open statement, but I stay away from Client side scripting on actual Internet web applications. Maybe you are talking about the 'links' that open a new window. If that's the case, the anchor tag (for hyperlinks): AccessD Archives Above is an anchor tag. It starts with < a >, and ends with a < /a >. The href property denotes the URL to navigate too, and the TARGET property denotes where to load the page. _blank tells it to open it in a new browser window. If you were using frames, then putting the 'name' of the frame in the Target will load that URL in that frame. Or, if you use the window.open script line, you can use the name that you give the new window in that script line, to send the new URL too. Of course, ironically, this post will get a little goofy in the archives, because the 'example' above is going to show up as HTML, so it will be a hyperlink. So here is a modified version (I'll add spaces to it. < a href="http://www.wolfwares.com/AccessD" target="_blank" >AccessD Archives< /a > Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 11:51 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! Thanks Drew. Can I ask what your ASP code that opens a new window looks like? Thanks, Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 12:43 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! You're welcome. It's all Access! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Gary Kjos [mailto:garykjos at hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:34 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! Thanks Drew. The searches seem very quick. Gary Kjos garykjos at hotmail.com >From: Drew Wutka >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >To: "'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com'" >Subject: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! >Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 19:15:44 -0500 > >Actually, they have been up for almost a week. It's just taken me a while >to finish up some of the code issues, and to add some info/help pages. > >http://www.wolfwares.com/AccessD > >Right now the archives are using my Wolfwares.com 'theme', but hopefully in >the near future they will match the dba website. (The webmaster for dba >has >access to these files, so when he gets the chance, he'll be modifying my >pages to match the 'new' dba site). > >Drew > > >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com **************************************************************************** ******* "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank You". **************************************************************************** ******* _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From my.lists at verizon.net Tue Apr 8 12:10:42 2003 From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 10:10:42 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! References: <657FB70438B7D311AF320090279C180103C5E4E3@EXCHMAIL> Message-ID: <004601c2fdf1$c99cfe50$b615010a@FHTAPIA> That wouldn't be Verizon would it? where I live Verizon puts out diffrent types of plans such as 768/128 or 1.2m/128 as you can see the max they offer home users is 128k up :o( oh well...good thing you tweaked the archives :D -Francisco http://rcm.netfirms.com On Tuesday, April 08, 2003 9:51 AM [GMT-8], Drew Wutka wrote: : You're welcome also. Like the speed? (Ironically, I built the index : capability back when I had 384k upload speed....but I moved a few days : later, before I took that live....now where I live, I can only get : 128k upload, so the 'search' speed is drastically faster, but now my : website is 1/3 as fast! ) : : Drew : : -----Original Message----- : From: Hale, Jim [mailto:jim.hale at fleetpride.com] : Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 10:16 AM : To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' : Subject: RE: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! : : : : WOW! Great stuff. Thanks! : Jim Hale : : -----Original Message----- : From: Drew Wutka [ mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com : ] : : Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 7:16 PM : To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com' : Subject: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! : : : Actually, they have been up for almost a week. It's just taken me a : while : to finish up some of the code issues, and to add some info/help pages. : : http://www.wolfwares.com/AccessD : : Right now the archives are using my Wolfwares.com 'theme', but : hopefully in : the near future they will match the dba website. (The webmaster for : dba has : access to these files, so when he gets the chance, he'll be modifying : my : : pages to match the 'new' dba site). : : Drew : : : _______________________________________________ : AccessD mailing list : AccessD at databaseadvisors.com : http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd : : Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com : From Jdemarco at hshhp.org Tue Apr 8 12:11:05 2003 From: Jdemarco at hshhp.org (Jim DeMarco) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 13:11:05 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! Message-ID: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F99D8583E@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com> When I click a post found in the search results a new window pops up with the post. Response.Redirect just navigates the current browser window to a new location (so does the HTML anchor tag for that matter). Did you not program your ASP to open a new window showing the selected post? Thanks, Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 1:04 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! What do you mean? Response.redirect changes the web page that is loading, but as far as I know, there is no way for ASP to directly have another window open. I have done something similar by having ASP write 'VBScript' that runs a window.open statement, but I stay away from Client side scripting on actual Internet web applications. Maybe you are talking about the 'links' that open a new window. If that's the case, the anchor tag (for hyperlinks): AccessD Archives Above is an anchor tag. It starts with < a >, and ends with a < /a >. The href property denotes the URL to navigate too, and the TARGET property denotes where to load the page. _blank tells it to open it in a new browser window. If you were using frames, then putting the 'name' of the frame in the Target will load that URL in that frame. Or, if you use the window.open script line, you can use the name that you give the new window in that script line, to send the new URL too. Of course, ironically, this post will get a little goofy in the archives, because the 'example' above is going to show up as HTML, so it will be a hyperlink. So here is a modified version (I'll add spaces to it. < a href="http://www.wolfwares.com/AccessD" target="_blank" >AccessD Archives< /a > Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 11:51 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! Thanks Drew. Can I ask what your ASP code that opens a new window looks like? Thanks, Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 12:43 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! You're welcome. It's all Access! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Gary Kjos [mailto:garykjos at hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:34 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! Thanks Drew. The searches seem very quick. Gary Kjos garykjos at hotmail.com >From: Drew Wutka >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >To: "'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com'" >Subject: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! >Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 19:15:44 -0500 > >Actually, they have been up for almost a week. It's just taken me a while >to finish up some of the code issues, and to add some info/help pages. > >http://www.wolfwares.com/AccessD > >Right now the archives are using my Wolfwares.com 'theme', but hopefully in >the near future they will match the dba website. (The webmaster for dba >has >access to these files, so when he gets the chance, he'll be modifying my >pages to match the 'new' dba site). > >Drew > > >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com **************************************************************************** ******* "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank You". **************************************************************************** ******* _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com *********************************************************************************** "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank You". *********************************************************************************** From Jdemarco at hshhp.org Tue Apr 8 12:12:30 2003 From: Jdemarco at hshhp.org (Jim DeMarco) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 13:12:30 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! Message-ID: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F99D8583F@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com> Sorry I found the answer that I thought wasn't there! It was the "target=blank" bit. Thanks again, Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 1:04 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! What do you mean? Response.redirect changes the web page that is loading, but as far as I know, there is no way for ASP to directly have another window open. I have done something similar by having ASP write 'VBScript' that runs a window.open statement, but I stay away from Client side scripting on actual Internet web applications. Maybe you are talking about the 'links' that open a new window. If that's the case, the anchor tag (for hyperlinks): AccessD Archives Above is an anchor tag. It starts with < a >, and ends with a < /a >. The href property denotes the URL to navigate too, and the TARGET property denotes where to load the page. _blank tells it to open it in a new browser window. If you were using frames, then putting the 'name' of the frame in the Target will load that URL in that frame. Or, if you use the window.open script line, you can use the name that you give the new window in that script line, to send the new URL too. Of course, ironically, this post will get a little goofy in the archives, because the 'example' above is going to show up as HTML, so it will be a hyperlink. So here is a modified version (I'll add spaces to it. < a href="http://www.wolfwares.com/AccessD" target="_blank" >AccessD Archives< /a > Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 11:51 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! Thanks Drew. Can I ask what your ASP code that opens a new window looks like? Thanks, Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 12:43 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! You're welcome. It's all Access! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Gary Kjos [mailto:garykjos at hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:34 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! Thanks Drew. The searches seem very quick. Gary Kjos garykjos at hotmail.com >From: Drew Wutka >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >To: "'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com'" >Subject: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! >Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 19:15:44 -0500 > >Actually, they have been up for almost a week. It's just taken me a while >to finish up some of the code issues, and to add some info/help pages. > >http://www.wolfwares.com/AccessD > >Right now the archives are using my Wolfwares.com 'theme', but hopefully in >the near future they will match the dba website. (The webmaster for dba >has >access to these files, so when he gets the chance, he'll be modifying my >pages to match the 'new' dba site). > >Drew > > >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com **************************************************************************** ******* "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank You". **************************************************************************** ******* _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com *********************************************************************************** "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank You". *********************************************************************************** From hsimpson88 at hotmail.com Tue Apr 8 12:21:03 2003 From: hsimpson88 at hotmail.com (Henry Simpson) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 11:21:03 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Hyperlinks by automation Message-ID: Thanks Jim: I've had the basics running for about four years now except for saving the path in the Excel sheet. The procedure has always saved the invoice to a path that it knows exists (it creates it if it doesn't and confirms the path to the file after the save) and uses this path for the hyperlink which it could as well store in the same sheet as the numeric summary information in a hidden column. The text of the hyperlink is a five digit invoice number so the full path is hidden from the user. There is no need to use a separate sheet or file as I really like to keep it in a single sheet so users can copy/paste a single sheet to email a monthly summary and give the recipient access to the documents (password locked) over the WAN. Keeping it self contained also means there are fewer document interdependencies to fail. The sheet already stores client, project, previous invoice totals, contract value, contract changes and all data necessary to display any information our accounting department requires. There are also cells that display the previous year's totals for the month and totals to that month by fiscal year that use a cell reference to the other sheet and by colum totals within each sheet. My primary issue with the whole application is that the hyperlink is inconvenient in that it closes the workbook. Secondary issues are that I have more options for error handling and the option to open the folder that should contain the document should it not be present by using VBA code rather than a hyperlink. Hen >From: "Hale, Jim" >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >To: "'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'" >Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Hyperlinks by automation >Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 11:55:09 -0500 > >You could create a hidden sheet with an Excel "database" (ie flat file). >This worksheet could be updated from either Access or Excel as needed. Each >"record" could have whatever the relevant fields you need (document name, >customer, hyperlink, etc). For the user you would create a sheet with a >dropdown box to select the relevant document. VBA code could then open the >selected document. I have a model which loads data into an excel >spreadsheet >pivot table from Access using some of these techniques. You are welcome to >a copy if you think it would be helpful. >Jim Hale > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] >Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 11:15 AM >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Hyperlinks by automation > > >Henry, > >What about using an Excel Forms command button and VBA code to do the same >thing? Not as pretty but you'd have control of the screen. > >HTH, > >Jim DeMarco >Director of Product Development >HealthSource/Hudson Health Plan > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Henry Simpson [mailto:hsimpson88 at hotmail.com] >Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 10:42 AM >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >Subject: [AccessD] OT: Hyperlinks by automation > > >I have an Access 97 procedure that creates a series of Word 97 Doc invoices >and adds a row in an Excel 97 sheet summarizing each invoice as it >generates > >each document. Each document is saved into a specific project folder >determined by the application. In the past, the code also did a .SaveAs to >an invoicing folder created for the year and month so that all the >documents > >could be retrieved from a single location. This made it easy to just drag >all the files from Explorer to a single email to accounting. The >alternative had been to open each project record, open the linked folder >and > >drag one document at a time which was very tedious when there were many >invoices. The monthly group folder was supposed to be temporary but >because > >of the convenience of being able to work with multiple invoices in a single >location, some users were inclined to make required revisions to invoices >in > >this location rather than in the project folder. The end result was that >we > >wound up with document version issues. > >I've been implementing an alternate solution where the access application >inserts a hyperlink to each invoice document in the Excel summary sheet. >The advantage is that when a user makes a revision, he is reminded by the >presence of the Excel sheet to update the Excel entry and users have a >single place from which all invoices can be conveniently opened and the >document is the one in the actual project folder. Mail traffic is also >reduced since we had anywhere from 80 to 200 documents of about 25k size >that were being attached. Also, because I use a UNC link, the sheet works >to open pertinent documents from anywhere on the WAN. > >Not having worked with hyperlinks before, I've run into an annoyance. When >a user merely clicks on a hyperlink, the Word doc opens but the Excel >workbook closes leaving the Excel application open. In order to keep the >Excel workbook open, it is necessary for users to right click the hyperlink >and select the hyperlink context sensitive menu item and then select Open >in > >New Window from a fly out menu. All this mousing and clicking is annoying >and I would prefer that Excel remain open if the user simply (left) clicks >the hyperlink. Is there any way to implement this? > >Hen > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > >**************************************************************************** >******* >"This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named >recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that >is >confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are >hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the >contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this >message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us >immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address >noted above or calling HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended >recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and >destroy all copies of this message. Thank You". >**************************************************************************** >******* > >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From szayko at secor.com Tue Apr 8 12:30:19 2003 From: szayko at secor.com (Stephen R. Zayko) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 13:30:19 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Doris Manning's e-mail In-Reply-To: <008c01c2fdec$75186f40$16330cd8@hargrove.internal> Message-ID: <004c01c2fdf4$87b133a0$283da8c0@secor024> Could someone send me Doris Manning's e-mail address. It is not shown on the headers of her e-mails. Thanks -Z Stephen R. Zayko SECOR International Inc. 2321 Club meridian Drive Ste. E Okemos MI, 48864 517 349 9499 ph 517 349 6863 fx szayko at secor.com www.secorlansing.com From scott.marcus at ae.ge.com Tue Apr 8 12:36:42 2003 From: scott.marcus at ae.ge.com (Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting)) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 13:36:42 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Doris Manning's e-mail Message-ID: <768A0EA6FF8CB34FA522978966E5D52E559D64@bwam02msx.ae.ge.com> mikedorism at ntelos.net -----Original Message----- From: Stephen R. Zayko [mailto:szayko at secor.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 1:30 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Doris Manning's e-mail Could someone send me Doris Manning's e-mail address. It is not shown on the headers of her e-mails. Thanks -Z Stephen R. Zayko SECOR International Inc. 2321 Club meridian Drive Ste. E Okemos MI, 48864 517 349 9499 ph 517 349 6863 fx szayko at secor.com www.secorlansing.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Tue Apr 8 12:53:28 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 12:53:28 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D8262B@main2.marlow.com> That is the HTML Anchor tag. It's the TARGET property. target="_blank" opens the URL in a new window. What HTML editor are you using? Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 12:11 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! When I click a post found in the search results a new window pops up with the post. Response.Redirect just navigates the current browser window to a new location (so does the HTML anchor tag for that matter). Did you not program your ASP to open a new window showing the selected post? Thanks, Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 1:04 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! What do you mean? Response.redirect changes the web page that is loading, but as far as I know, there is no way for ASP to directly have another window open. I have done something similar by having ASP write 'VBScript' that runs a window.open statement, but I stay away from Client side scripting on actual Internet web applications. Maybe you are talking about the 'links' that open a new window. If that's the case, the anchor tag (for hyperlinks): AccessD Archives Above is an anchor tag. It starts with < a >, and ends with a < /a >. The href property denotes the URL to navigate too, and the TARGET property denotes where to load the page. _blank tells it to open it in a new browser window. If you were using frames, then putting the 'name' of the frame in the Target will load that URL in that frame. Or, if you use the window.open script line, you can use the name that you give the new window in that script line, to send the new URL too. Of course, ironically, this post will get a little goofy in the archives, because the 'example' above is going to show up as HTML, so it will be a hyperlink. So here is a modified version (I'll add spaces to it. < a href="http://www.wolfwares.com/AccessD" target="_blank" >AccessD Archives< /a > Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 11:51 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! Thanks Drew. Can I ask what your ASP code that opens a new window looks like? Thanks, Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 12:43 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! You're welcome. It's all Access! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Gary Kjos [mailto:garykjos at hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:34 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! Thanks Drew. The searches seem very quick. Gary Kjos garykjos at hotmail.com >From: Drew Wutka >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >To: "'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com'" >Subject: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! >Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 19:15:44 -0500 > >Actually, they have been up for almost a week. It's just taken me a while >to finish up some of the code issues, and to add some info/help pages. > >http://www.wolfwares.com/AccessD > >Right now the archives are using my Wolfwares.com 'theme', but hopefully in >the near future they will match the dba website. (The webmaster for dba >has >access to these files, so when he gets the chance, he'll be modifying my >pages to match the 'new' dba site). > >Drew > > >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com **************************************************************************** ******* "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank You". **************************************************************************** ******* _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com **************************************************************************** ******* "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank You". **************************************************************************** ******* _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Tue Apr 8 12:54:10 2003 From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK (Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 18:54:10 +0100 (BST) Subject: [AccessD] OT Smart Tags In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1049824450.3e930cc2cbcfd@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Anyone know of any security issues surrounding the use of Smart Tags with particular reference to thier use in Access. Martin From DWUTKA at marlow.com Tue Apr 8 12:54:08 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 12:54:08 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D8262C@main2.marlow.com> No, I used to be with a company called Internet American, which is just a 'reseller'. I am now with SBC (Southwestern Bell). Drew -----Original Message----- From: Francisco H Tapia [mailto:my.lists at verizon.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 12:11 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! That wouldn't be Verizon would it? where I live Verizon puts out diffrent types of plans such as 768/128 or 1.2m/128 as you can see the max they offer home users is 128k up :o( oh well...good thing you tweaked the archives :D -Francisco http://rcm.netfirms.com On Tuesday, April 08, 2003 9:51 AM [GMT-8], Drew Wutka wrote: : You're welcome also. Like the speed? (Ironically, I built the index : capability back when I had 384k upload speed....but I moved a few days : later, before I took that live....now where I live, I can only get : 128k upload, so the 'search' speed is drastically faster, but now my : website is 1/3 as fast! ) : : Drew : : -----Original Message----- : From: Hale, Jim [mailto:jim.hale at fleetpride.com] : Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 10:16 AM : To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' : Subject: RE: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! : : : : WOW! Great stuff. Thanks! : Jim Hale : : -----Original Message----- : From: Drew Wutka [ mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com : ] : : Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 7:16 PM : To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com' : Subject: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! : : : Actually, they have been up for almost a week. It's just taken me a : while : to finish up some of the code issues, and to add some info/help pages. : : http://www.wolfwares.com/AccessD : : Right now the archives are using my Wolfwares.com 'theme', but : hopefully in : the near future they will match the dba website. (The webmaster for : dba has : access to these files, so when he gets the chance, he'll be modifying : my : : pages to match the 'new' dba site). : : Drew : : : _______________________________________________ : AccessD mailing list : AccessD at databaseadvisors.com : http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd : : Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com : _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Tue Apr 8 12:54:45 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 12:54:45 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D8262D@main2.marlow.com> After I already replied! . Let me know what HTML you are using though, like for Front Page, I can tell you how to use it's going to set that property. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 12:13 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! Sorry I found the answer that I thought wasn't there! It was the "target=blank" bit. Thanks again, Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 1:04 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! What do you mean? Response.redirect changes the web page that is loading, but as far as I know, there is no way for ASP to directly have another window open. I have done something similar by having ASP write 'VBScript' that runs a window.open statement, but I stay away from Client side scripting on actual Internet web applications. Maybe you are talking about the 'links' that open a new window. If that's the case, the anchor tag (for hyperlinks): AccessD Archives Above is an anchor tag. It starts with < a >, and ends with a < /a >. The href property denotes the URL to navigate too, and the TARGET property denotes where to load the page. _blank tells it to open it in a new browser window. If you were using frames, then putting the 'name' of the frame in the Target will load that URL in that frame. Or, if you use the window.open script line, you can use the name that you give the new window in that script line, to send the new URL too. Of course, ironically, this post will get a little goofy in the archives, because the 'example' above is going to show up as HTML, so it will be a hyperlink. So here is a modified version (I'll add spaces to it. < a href="http://www.wolfwares.com/AccessD" target="_blank" >AccessD Archives< /a > Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 11:51 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! Thanks Drew. Can I ask what your ASP code that opens a new window looks like? Thanks, Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 12:43 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! You're welcome. It's all Access! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Gary Kjos [mailto:garykjos at hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:34 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! Thanks Drew. The searches seem very quick. Gary Kjos garykjos at hotmail.com >From: Drew Wutka >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >To: "'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com'" >Subject: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! >Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 19:15:44 -0500 > >Actually, they have been up for almost a week. It's just taken me a while >to finish up some of the code issues, and to add some info/help pages. > >http://www.wolfwares.com/AccessD > >Right now the archives are using my Wolfwares.com 'theme', but hopefully in >the near future they will match the dba website. (The webmaster for dba >has >access to these files, so when he gets the chance, he'll be modifying my >pages to match the 'new' dba site). > >Drew > > >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com **************************************************************************** ******* "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank You". **************************************************************************** ******* _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com **************************************************************************** ******* "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank You". **************************************************************************** ******* _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Jdemarco at hshhp.org Tue Apr 8 13:14:28 2003 From: Jdemarco at hshhp.org (Jim DeMarco) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 14:14:28 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! Message-ID: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F99D85843@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com> I'm using VB and there is no HTML editor involved. For the most part I'm still using Notepad to prototype a page before pasting it into VB. :-( As you might have guessed looks aren't real important just yet! We will be using Dreamweaver as our Intranet becomes more application-centric. Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 1:55 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! After I already replied! . Let me know what HTML you are using though, like for Front Page, I can tell you how to use it's going to set that property. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 12:13 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! Sorry I found the answer that I thought wasn't there! It was the "target=blank" bit. Thanks again, Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 1:04 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! What do you mean? Response.redirect changes the web page that is loading, but as far as I know, there is no way for ASP to directly have another window open. I have done something similar by having ASP write 'VBScript' that runs a window.open statement, but I stay away from Client side scripting on actual Internet web applications. Maybe you are talking about the 'links' that open a new window. If that's the case, the anchor tag (for hyperlinks): AccessD Archives Above is an anchor tag. It starts with < a >, and ends with a < /a >. The href property denotes the URL to navigate too, and the TARGET property denotes where to load the page. _blank tells it to open it in a new browser window. If you were using frames, then putting the 'name' of the frame in the Target will load that URL in that frame. Or, if you use the window.open script line, you can use the name that you give the new window in that script line, to send the new URL too. Of course, ironically, this post will get a little goofy in the archives, because the 'example' above is going to show up as HTML, so it will be a hyperlink. So here is a modified version (I'll add spaces to it. < a href="http://www.wolfwares.com/AccessD" target="_blank" >AccessD Archives< /a > Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 11:51 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! Thanks Drew. Can I ask what your ASP code that opens a new window looks like? Thanks, Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 12:43 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! You're welcome. It's all Access! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Gary Kjos [mailto:garykjos at hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:34 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! Thanks Drew. The searches seem very quick. Gary Kjos garykjos at hotmail.com >From: Drew Wutka >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >To: "'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com'" >Subject: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! >Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 19:15:44 -0500 > >Actually, they have been up for almost a week. It's just taken me a while >to finish up some of the code issues, and to add some info/help pages. > >http://www.wolfwares.com/AccessD > >Right now the archives are using my Wolfwares.com 'theme', but hopefully in >the near future they will match the dba website. (The webmaster for dba >has >access to these files, so when he gets the chance, he'll be modifying my >pages to match the 'new' dba site). > >Drew > > >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com **************************************************************************** ******* "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank You". **************************************************************************** ******* _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com **************************************************************************** ******* "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank You". **************************************************************************** ******* _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com *********************************************************************************** "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank You". *********************************************************************************** From Jdemarco at hshhp.org Tue Apr 8 13:20:19 2003 From: Jdemarco at hshhp.org (Jim DeMarco) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 14:20:19 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Slightly OT:Electronic Medical Record Message-ID: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F99D85844@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com> Does anyone on this list (in the health care industry) have any familiarity with these or use them? Thanks, Jim DeMarco Director of Product Development HealthSource/Hudson Health Plan -----Original Message----- From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK [mailto:Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 1:54 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] OT Smart Tags Anyone know of any security issues surrounding the use of Smart Tags with particular reference to thier use in Access. Martin _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com *********************************************************************************** "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank You". *********************************************************************************** From jim.hale at fleetpride.com Tue Apr 8 13:18:55 2003 From: jim.hale at fleetpride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 13:18:55 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Hyperlinks by automation Message-ID: <869379ABF177D4118D3100508B5EF873059857BA@corp-es00> Several years ago I used hyperlinks in a financial summary workbook to help users navigate from report to report. I found that the links behaved differently on different machines. I was never able to pin down why and eventually moved to a different solution. Since then I have never used hyperlinks as part of a solution- they seem more trouble then they are worth. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Henry Simpson [mailto:hsimpson88 at hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 12:21 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Hyperlinks by automation Thanks Jim: I've had the basics running for about four years now except for saving the path in the Excel sheet. The procedure has always saved the invoice to a path that it knows exists (it creates it if it doesn't and confirms the path to the file after the save) and uses this path for the hyperlink which it could as well store in the same sheet as the numeric summary information in a hidden column. The text of the hyperlink is a five digit invoice number so the full path is hidden from the user. There is no need to use a separate sheet or file as I really like to keep it in a single sheet so users can copy/paste a single sheet to email a monthly summary and give the recipient access to the documents (password locked) over the WAN. Keeping it self contained also means there are fewer document interdependencies to fail. The sheet already stores client, project, previous invoice totals, contract value, contract changes and all data necessary to display any information our accounting department requires. There are also cells that display the previous year's totals for the month and totals to that month by fiscal year that use a cell reference to the other sheet and by colum totals within each sheet. My primary issue with the whole application is that the hyperlink is inconvenient in that it closes the workbook. Secondary issues are that I have more options for error handling and the option to open the folder that should contain the document should it not be present by using VBA code rather than a hyperlink. Hen >From: "Hale, Jim" >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >To: "'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'" >Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Hyperlinks by automation >Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 11:55:09 -0500 > >You could create a hidden sheet with an Excel "database" (ie flat file). >This worksheet could be updated from either Access or Excel as needed. Each >"record" could have whatever the relevant fields you need (document name, >customer, hyperlink, etc). For the user you would create a sheet with a >dropdown box to select the relevant document. VBA code could then open the >selected document. I have a model which loads data into an excel >spreadsheet >pivot table from Access using some of these techniques. You are welcome to >a copy if you think it would be helpful. >Jim Hale > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] >Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 11:15 AM >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Hyperlinks by automation > > >Henry, > >What about using an Excel Forms command button and VBA code to do the same >thing? Not as pretty but you'd have control of the screen. > >HTH, > >Jim DeMarco >Director of Product Development >HealthSource/Hudson Health Plan > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Henry Simpson [mailto:hsimpson88 at hotmail.com] >Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 10:42 AM >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >Subject: [AccessD] OT: Hyperlinks by automation > > >I have an Access 97 procedure that creates a series of Word 97 Doc invoices >and adds a row in an Excel 97 sheet summarizing each invoice as it >generates > >each document. Each document is saved into a specific project folder >determined by the application. In the past, the code also did a .SaveAs to >an invoicing folder created for the year and month so that all the >documents > >could be retrieved from a single location. This made it easy to just drag >all the files from Explorer to a single email to accounting. The >alternative had been to open each project record, open the linked folder >and > >drag one document at a time which was very tedious when there were many >invoices. The monthly group folder was supposed to be temporary but >because > >of the convenience of being able to work with multiple invoices in a single >location, some users were inclined to make required revisions to invoices >in > >this location rather than in the project folder. The end result was that >we > >wound up with document version issues. > >I've been implementing an alternate solution where the access application >inserts a hyperlink to each invoice document in the Excel summary sheet. >The advantage is that when a user makes a revision, he is reminded by the >presence of the Excel sheet to update the Excel entry and users have a >single place from which all invoices can be conveniently opened and the >document is the one in the actual project folder. Mail traffic is also >reduced since we had anywhere from 80 to 200 documents of about 25k size >that were being attached. Also, because I use a UNC link, the sheet works >to open pertinent documents from anywhere on the WAN. > >Not having worked with hyperlinks before, I've run into an annoyance. When >a user merely clicks on a hyperlink, the Word doc opens but the Excel >workbook closes leaving the Excel application open. In order to keep the >Excel workbook open, it is necessary for users to right click the hyperlink >and select the hyperlink context sensitive menu item and then select Open >in > >New Window from a fly out menu. All this mousing and clicking is annoying >and I would prefer that Excel remain open if the user simply (left) clicks >the hyperlink. 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URL: From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Tue Apr 8 13:21:20 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 11:21:20 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] RaiseEvent from subform to Parent Message-ID: I'm trying to raise a custom event from an XP subform to its parent form without any luck. The event is declared public in the subform, is being raised with the appropriate argument, and the parent form declared and instantiated an object WithEvents, but the equivalent event procedure in the parent form never fires. Is this something that just can't be done or have I missed a step somewhere? JC? Charlotte Foust From harkins at iglou.com Tue Apr 8 13:12:31 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 14:12:31 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT Smart Tags References: <1049824450.3e930cc2cbcfd@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <004801c2fdfb$d239b0d0$354afccc@SusanOne> Martin, have you checked the developer cd that comes with the beta? Lots of stuff there -- I haven't look for this particular issue, but you might give it a quick scan. Susan H. > Anyone know of any security issues surrounding the use of Smart Tags with > particular reference to thier use in Access. From pedro at plex.nl Tue Apr 8 13:29:07 2003 From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 20:29:07 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places References: Message-ID: <003801c2fdfc$e6d219f0$f6c581d5@pedro> Thanks to all that responded to my question. I think i skipped the college class where they explained how numbers are working on computers. But its good that you folks can explain this to me again. Pedro Janssen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henry Simpson" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places > Pedro: > > You are thinking in base 10 so perhaps an example in base 10 will help. > What is the value of 1/3 in base ten to one decimal place and how close is > that to the actual value of 1/3. In base 3 it is an exact value but in base > 10, it is an approximation. Fractional numbers in Base 2 also are a mere > approximation of base 10 numbers. There are numbers like .5, .75, .125, > .375 that are exact number in both base systems, but numbers like .1 can not > be exactly represented as they have an infinite number of decimal places in > base 2 just as 1/3 has an infinite number of decimal places in base 10. > > Hen > > > > > >From: "Pedro Janssen" > >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > >To: > >Subject: Re: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places > >Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 13:16:21 +0200 > > > >Hello Charles, > > > >I use single as datatyping. > >Here are a few values that i received as result: > > > >2,199998 > >0,2000008 > >0,2999992 > >3,799999 > >-1,430511E-06 > >1,519918E-06 > >-1,937151E-07 > > > >this result i received from numbers that were entered directly in the > >Table.(see first mail) > > > >I don't know what hardware specifications you need, but its a laptop > >Acer Travelmate 620, Pentium III, CPU1000MHz > >535MHz and 248MB RAM, WindowsXP, Home edition > > > >Pedro Janssen > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Wortz, Charles" > >To: > >Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 8:03 PM > >Subject: RE: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places > > > > > > > Pedro, > > > > > > Are you datatyping your numbers as Single or Double? Even with Single > > > you get approximately seven (7) digits of precision. Thus your 5,1 will > > > be stored as some value between 5,000005 and 5,100005. The value you > > > claim is far outside of this range, leading me to conclude it is a > > > calculated value, not a value you entered directly. If it is a value > > > you entered directly, then please inform us of the hardware > > > specifications of your computer since it does not meet any of the > > > worldwide specifications for handling floating point numbers. > > > Charles Wortz > > > Software Development Division > > > Texas Education Agency > > > 1701 N. Congress Ave > > > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > > > 512-463-9493 > > > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] > > > Sent: Monday 2003 Apr 07 12:42 > > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places > > > > > > > > > You're going to have to explain whether you want to truly round numbers > > > or just display them that way. The Decimal places setting addresses the > > > display, not the precision. > > > > > > Charlotte Foust > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl] > > > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 9:25 AM > > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places > > > > > > > > > Hello Charles, > > > > > > when i type 5,1 i type 5,1 and not . > > > How does a computer changes 5,1 into 5,11415899 although i type 5,1. > > > > > > What is the use of decimal places:1, with field size: single, when the > > > pc makes a lott of decimal places from it. Then this property better > > > wasn't available when using numbers (not currency). > > > Is there a way to roundup the numbers to 1decimal place without using > > > currency. > > > > > > Pedro Janssen > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Wortz, Charles > > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 5:42 PM > > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places > > > > > > > > > Pedro, > > > > > > Remember, you are working on a binary computer. Thus decimal numbers > > > must be approximated as the sum of powers of two. For integer numbers > > > these approximations are exact representations. For floating point > > > numbers, these approximations are just that - approximations. None of > > > your floating point numbers are stored with just one digit to the right > > > of the decimal point, they are only displayed to you as such. > > > > > > If you cannot learn to live with floating point numbers, then convert > > > them to the currency datatype. The currency datatype will meet many of > > > you computational needs. > > > > > > > > > Charles Wortz > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl] > > > Sent: Monday 2003 Apr 07 10:30 > > > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > Subject: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places > > > > > > > > > Hello Group, > > > > > > i have a tableA with 5 fields (field size: single, decimal places:1) > > > Not all fields have values. > > > I want the difference from al those field, so i added a field diff. > > > I made an update query with the following sql: > > > > > > UPDATE TableA SET TableA.[diff] = 100-Nz([field1],0)-Nz([[field2],0)- > > > etc. etc.; > > > > > > The result that i get in field diff gives many records with more then 1 > > > decimal places. > > > > > > For example: When i have a record which contains values like 5,1 and > > > 94,9 (all values are typed in this way and are not calculated) i get as > > > result 0,11176548 > > > or a record that contains values like 20,5 and 20,5 i get as result > > > 59,997854. > > > Some result do have only one decimal place. > > > > > > How is this possible? > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > Pedro Janssen > > _________________________________________________________________ > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From michael.mattys at adelphia.net Tue Apr 8 13:32:21 2003 From: michael.mattys at adelphia.net (Michael R Mattys) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 14:32:21 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Hyperlinks by automation References: Message-ID: <003c01c2fdfd$34d47fd0$6401a8c0@default> Henry, I hope this may help Document Disappears After Clicking Hyperlink http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q156264 You might also look into the FollowHyperlink method: ActiveWorkbook.FollowHyperlink Address:= _ "http://www.gohere.com", NewWindow:=True Michael R. Mattys www.mattysconsulting.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henry Simpson" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 10:42 AM Subject: [AccessD] OT: Hyperlinks by automation > I have an Access 97 procedure that creates a series of Word 97 Doc invoices > and adds a row in an Excel 97 sheet summarizing each invoice as it generates > each document. Each document is saved into a specific project folder > determined by the application. In the past, the code also did a .SaveAs to > an invoicing folder created for the year and month so that all the documents > could be retrieved from a single location. This made it easy to just drag > all the files from Explorer to a single email to accounting. The > alternative had been to open each project record, open the linked folder and > drag one document at a time which was very tedious when there were many > invoices. The monthly group folder was supposed to be temporary but because > of the convenience of being able to work with multiple invoices in a single > location, some users were inclined to make required revisions to invoices in > this location rather than in the project folder. The end result was that we > wound up with document version issues. > > I've been implementing an alternate solution where the access application > inserts a hyperlink to each invoice document in the Excel summary sheet. > The advantage is that when a user makes a revision, he is reminded by the > presence of the Excel sheet to update the Excel entry and users have a > single place from which all invoices can be conveniently opened and the > document is the one in the actual project folder. Mail traffic is also > reduced since we had anywhere from 80 to 200 documents of about 25k size > that were being attached. Also, because I use a UNC link, the sheet works > to open pertinent documents from anywhere on the WAN. > > Not having worked with hyperlinks before, I've run into an annoyance. When > a user merely clicks on a hyperlink, the Word doc opens but the Excel > workbook closes leaving the Excel application open. In order to keep the > Excel workbook open, it is necessary for users to right click the hyperlink > and select the hyperlink context sensitive menu item and then select Open in > New Window from a fly out menu. All this mousing and clicking is annoying > and I would prefer that Excel remain open if the user simply (left) clicks > the hyperlink. Is there any way to implement this? > > Hen > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca Tue Apr 8 13:57:24 2003 From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 14:57:24 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] RaiseEvent from subform to Parent Message-ID: Charlotte, Just a WAG, but.... Since it is the sub-form that is raising the events, isn't it the sub form that has to be instantiated with WithEvents? Bryan Carbonnel bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca >>> cfoust at infostatsystems.com 08-Apr-03 2:21:20 PM >>> I'm trying to raise a custom event from an XP subform to its parent form without any luck. The event is declared public in the subform, is being raised with the appropriate argument, and the parent form declared and instantiated an object WithEvents, but the equivalent event procedure in the parent form never fires. Is this something that just can't be done or have I missed a step somewhere? JC? Charlotte Foust _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From hsimpson88 at hotmail.com Tue Apr 8 14:02:23 2003 From: hsimpson88 at hotmail.com (Henry Simpson) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 13:02:23 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Hyperlinks by automation Message-ID: Thanks Michael: The Microsoft link clinches it. I can dirty the form in the event that opens Excel, but then the user is prompted to save. I can code a save, but the user may need to cancel changes so that's no good. In either event, some code is required. The 'Back' button mentioned in the Microsoft article is not applicable to Word docs and unhiding a window is as bad or worse than right click and navigating the menus. In any event, the Microsoft solution of unhiding a workbook doesn't work on our Terminal Server as the file is completely closed. I could use the follow hyperlink method but as long as there is a need to add code, I'll just use shellExecute. Thanks for the definitive answer. I'll switch to storing the file path in a hidden column and skip the hyperlinks entirely. Hen >From: "Michael R Mattys" >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >To: >Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Hyperlinks by automation >Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 14:32:21 -0400 > >Henry, > >I hope this may help > >Document Disappears After Clicking Hyperlink >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q156264 > >You might also look into the FollowHyperlink method: >ActiveWorkbook.FollowHyperlink Address:= _ >"http://www.gohere.com", NewWindow:=True > >Michael R. Mattys >www.mattysconsulting.com > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Henry Simpson" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 10:42 AM >Subject: [AccessD] OT: Hyperlinks by automation > > > > I have an Access 97 procedure that creates a series of Word 97 Doc >invoices > > and adds a row in an Excel 97 sheet summarizing each invoice as it >generates > > each document. Each document is saved into a specific project folder > > determined by the application. In the past, the code also did a .SaveAs >to > > an invoicing folder created for the year and month so that all the >documents > > could be retrieved from a single location. This made it easy to just >drag > > all the files from Explorer to a single email to accounting. The > > alternative had been to open each project record, open the linked folder >and > > drag one document at a time which was very tedious when there were many > > invoices. The monthly group folder was supposed to be temporary but >because > > of the convenience of being able to work with multiple invoices in a >single > > location, some users were inclined to make required revisions to >invoices >in > > this location rather than in the project folder. The end result was >that >we > > wound up with document version issues. > > > > I've been implementing an alternate solution where the access >application > > inserts a hyperlink to each invoice document in the Excel summary sheet. > > The advantage is that when a user makes a revision, he is reminded by >the > > presence of the Excel sheet to update the Excel entry and users have a > > single place from which all invoices can be conveniently opened and the > > document is the one in the actual project folder. Mail traffic is also > > reduced since we had anywhere from 80 to 200 documents of about 25k size > > that were being attached. Also, because I use a UNC link, the sheet >works > > to open pertinent documents from anywhere on the WAN. > > > > Not having worked with hyperlinks before, I've run into an annoyance. >When > > a user merely clicks on a hyperlink, the Word doc opens but the Excel > > workbook closes leaving the Excel application open. In order to keep >the > > Excel workbook open, it is necessary for users to right click the >hyperlink > > and select the hyperlink context sensitive menu item and then select >Open >in > > New Window from a fly out menu. All this mousing and clicking is >annoying > > and I would prefer that Excel remain open if the user simply (left) >clicks > > the hyperlink. Is there any way to implement this? > > > > Hen _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From DWUTKA at marlow.com Tue Apr 8 14:08:50 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 14:08:50 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D8262F@main2.marlow.com> I was toying with a date option, but I dropped it since the 'live' archives (on the dba site) can be used to view everything by date (I think). Thanks for the compliment. I really enjoyed thinking out of the box on this one. My motto is, if it can be done, it can be done with the tools you have! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Francisco H Tapia [mailto:my.lists at verizon.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 12:00 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! Who says Access can't be used for mission critical ;o) . I found your behinds the scenes link very informative. This of course is also very interesting. You've taken an otherwise weak point of access (memo's) and leveraged Access's strength in indexes. Very commendable and ingenious... One (me) might pose the question why do it in Access vs. MSDE or mySQL, but a good answer comes to mind :o). Often times there are solutions right under our nose that we overlook, but this is just a great example of thinking outside the box... great job... btw, I would have liked a date restricting function (for the actual dates) but since everything is displayed ascending or descending by date, this point is rather moot. :o) -Francisco http://rcm.netfirms.com On Tuesday, April 08, 2003 9:43 AM [GMT-8], Drew Wutka wrote: : You're welcome. It's all Access! : : Drew : : -----Original Message----- : From: Gary Kjos [mailto:garykjos at hotmail.com] : Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:34 AM : To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com : Subject: Re: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! : : : Thanks Drew. The searches seem very quick. : : Gary Kjos : garykjos at hotmail.com : : : : : :: From: Drew Wutka :: Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com :: To: "'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com'" :: Subject: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! :: Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 19:15:44 -0500 :: :: Actually, they have been up for almost a week. It's just taken me a :: while to finish up some of the code issues, and to add some :: info/help pages. :: :: http://www.wolfwares.com/AccessD :: :: Right now the archives are using my Wolfwares.com 'theme', but :: hopefully in the near future they will match the dba website. (The :: webmaster for dba has :: access to these files, so when he gets the chance, he'll be :: modifying my pages to match the 'new' dba site). :: :: Drew :: :: :: _______________________________________________ :: AccessD mailing list :: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com :: http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd :: Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com : : : _________________________________________________________________ : The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* : http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail : : _______________________________________________ : AccessD mailing list : AccessD at databaseadvisors.com : http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd : Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com : _______________________________________________ : AccessD mailing list : AccessD at databaseadvisors.com : http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd : Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Tue Apr 8 14:09:42 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 14:09:42 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] RaiseEvent from subform to Parent Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82630@main2.marlow.com> If I read your post right, you need to declare the subform on the main form with the 'withevents' statement, not the other way around. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 1:21 PM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] RaiseEvent from subform to Parent I'm trying to raise a custom event from an XP subform to its parent form without any luck. The event is declared public in the subform, is being raised with the appropriate argument, and the parent form declared and instantiated an object WithEvents, but the equivalent event procedure in the parent form never fires. Is this something that just can't be done or have I missed a step somewhere? JC? Charlotte Foust _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From davide at dalyn.co.nz Tue Apr 8 14:10:11 2003 From: davide at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 07:10:11 +1200 Subject: [AccessD] SQL exporting to EXCEL Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030409070929.00bab580@mail.dalyn.co.nz> AXP ADP/SQL2K (Already sent to SQL list but looking for wider coverage) I have a sproc that returns a recordset I want to export to excel. When I use the following code Excel wants to name the sheet the value of strSprocName. This causes problems because the call to the sproc is not a valid sheet name (this is because of the second parameter - sprocs with only 1 parameter work ok). The spreadsheet creates ok but when I open it in Excel and error appears saying that the sheet has been recovered and renamed. I would like to be able to create the sheet without the error. strSprocName = "EXEC spBookingExport 0, '20' DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputStoredProcedure, strSprocName, acFormatXLS, C:\Temp\test.xls Regards David Emerson DALYN Software Ltd 25b Cunliffe St, Johnsonville Wellington, New Zealand Ph/Fax (877) 456-1205 From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Tue Apr 8 14:32:53 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 12:32:53 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] RaiseEvent from subform to Parent Message-ID: I did, Drew, but the custom event has to be declared on the subform unless I've totallly lost my mind.(no wisecracks, please) And for some reason RaiseEvent doesn't seem to be working. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 11:10 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] RaiseEvent from subform to Parent If I read your post right, you need to declare the subform on the main form with the 'withevents' statement, not the other way around. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 1:21 PM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] RaiseEvent from subform to Parent I'm trying to raise a custom event from an XP subform to its parent form without any luck. The event is declared public in the subform, is being raised with the appropriate argument, and the parent form declared and instantiated an object WithEvents, but the equivalent event procedure in the parent form never fires. Is this something that just can't be done or have I missed a step somewhere? JC? Charlotte Foust _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Tue Apr 8 14:33:24 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 12:33:24 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] RaiseEvent from subform to Parent Message-ID: Yes, and that's what I did. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Carbonnell [mailto:Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 10:57 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] RaiseEvent from subform to Parent Charlotte, Just a WAG, but.... Since it is the sub-form that is raising the events, isn't it the sub form that has to be instantiated with WithEvents? Bryan Carbonnel bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca >>> cfoust at infostatsystems.com 08-Apr-03 2:21:20 PM >>> I'm trying to raise a custom event from an XP subform to its parent form without any luck. The event is declared public in the subform, is being raised with the appropriate argument, and the parent form declared and instantiated an object WithEvents, but the equivalent event procedure in the parent form never fires. Is this something that just can't be done or have I missed a step somewhere? JC? Charlotte Foust _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Tue Apr 8 14:47:59 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 14:47:59 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] RaiseEvent from subform to Parent Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82633@main2.marlow.com> Right, you declare the event on the object you want to have the event fire FOR, but you use the WithEvents statement on the object you want to 'SEE' the event. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 2:33 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] RaiseEvent from subform to Parent I did, Drew, but the custom event has to be declared on the subform unless I've totallly lost my mind.(no wisecracks, please) And for some reason RaiseEvent doesn't seem to be working. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 11:10 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] RaiseEvent from subform to Parent If I read your post right, you need to declare the subform on the main form with the 'withevents' statement, not the other way around. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 1:21 PM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] RaiseEvent from subform to Parent I'm trying to raise a custom event from an XP subform to its parent form without any luck. The event is declared public in the subform, is being raised with the appropriate argument, and the parent form declared and instantiated an object WithEvents, but the equivalent event procedure in the parent form never fires. Is this something that just can't be done or have I missed a step somewhere? JC? Charlotte Foust _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From dwaters at usinternet.com Tue Apr 8 14:52:42 2003 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 14:52:42 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Slightly OT:Electronic Medical Record In-Reply-To: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F99D85844@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com> Message-ID: <000001c2fe08$6ad6a300$de1811d8@DanWaters> Jim, http://www.fda.gov/ora/compliance_ref/part11/ This is the web site from the FDA that has all the official information. It's a lot to wade through, and the requirements seem strict. Your company should have a Regulatory Manager who is or should be familiar with these requirements. AFAIK, Access alone does not meet the security requirements, but an Access FE with a SQL BE will. The difficult requirement is that the user must re-enter the user name and a password (not necessarily the same as the network log-in password) immediately prior to making an electronic 'signature'. There may also be a requirement for an audit trail of all the changes made in a record. Also, the strictness of the rules can vary depending on the product or service. Good Luck! Dan Waters -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 12:20 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Slightly OT:Electronic Medical Record Does anyone on this list (in the health care industry) have any familiarity with these or use them? Thanks, Jim DeMarco Director of Product Development HealthSource/Hudson Health Plan -----Original Message----- From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK [mailto:Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 1:54 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] OT Smart Tags Anyone know of any security issues surrounding the use of Smart Tags with particular reference to thier use in Access. Martin _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ************************************************************************ *********** "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank You". ************************************************************************ *********** _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From dwaters at usinternet.com Tue Apr 8 14:53:17 2003 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 14:53:17 -0500 Subject: Recall: [AccessD] Slightly OT:Electronic Medical Record Message-ID: Dan Waters would like to recall the message, "[AccessD] Slightly OT:Electronic Medical Record". -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 873 bytes Desc: not available URL: From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Tue Apr 8 14:54:03 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 12:54:03 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] RaiseEvent from subform to Parent Message-ID: Yes. Drew. But my parent form seems to be blind. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 11:48 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] RaiseEvent from subform to Parent Right, you declare the event on the object you want to have the event fire FOR, but you use the WithEvents statement on the object you want to 'SEE' the event. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 2:33 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] RaiseEvent from subform to Parent I did, Drew, but the custom event has to be declared on the subform unless I've totallly lost my mind.(no wisecracks, please) And for some reason RaiseEvent doesn't seem to be working. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 11:10 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] RaiseEvent from subform to Parent If I read your post right, you need to declare the subform on the main form with the 'withevents' statement, not the other way around. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 1:21 PM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] RaiseEvent from subform to Parent I'm trying to raise a custom event from an XP subform to its parent form without any luck. The event is declared public in the subform, is being raised with the appropriate argument, and the parent form declared and instantiated an object WithEvents, but the equivalent event procedure in the parent form never fires. Is this something that just can't be done or have I missed a step somewhere? JC? Charlotte Foust _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Tue Apr 8 15:04:59 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 13:04:59 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] RaiseEvent from subform to Parent Message-ID: Never mind, I figured it out. I had forgotten to declare the withevents object in the parent form as the specific Form_MySubformName. Blame it on advanced age and mental deterioration ... And Windows XP. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 11:54 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] RaiseEvent from subform to Parent Yes. Drew. But my parent form seems to be blind. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 11:48 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] RaiseEvent from subform to Parent Right, you declare the event on the object you want to have the event fire FOR, but you use the WithEvents statement on the object you want to 'SEE' the event. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 2:33 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] RaiseEvent from subform to Parent I did, Drew, but the custom event has to be declared on the subform unless I've totallly lost my mind.(no wisecracks, please) And for some reason RaiseEvent doesn't seem to be working. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 11:10 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] RaiseEvent from subform to Parent If I read your post right, you need to declare the subform on the main form with the 'withevents' statement, not the other way around. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 1:21 PM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] RaiseEvent from subform to Parent I'm trying to raise a custom event from an XP subform to its parent form without any luck. The event is declared public in the subform, is being raised with the appropriate argument, and the parent form declared and instantiated an object WithEvents, but the equivalent event procedure in the parent form never fires. Is this something that just can't be done or have I missed a step somewhere? JC? Charlotte Foust _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Tue Apr 8 15:38:14 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 15:38:14 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] RaiseEvent from subform to Parent Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82635@main2.marlow.com> Right, in your parent form you should have: Dim WithEvents sfrm as Form_subfrmTest Private Sub Form_Load() Set sfrm=Me.MySubForm.Form End Sub Private Sub sfrm_MySpecialEvent() 'Do something End Sub Dimensioning a variable as a sub form, using the WithEvents does allow you to code for an event. However, until that form is set to an actual object, it is not going to do anything. The line I have in the Load event is what sets that variable to represent the Form's subform. After that point, then events raised by the subform will be fired by the main form. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 3:05 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] RaiseEvent from subform to Parent Never mind, I figured it out. I had forgotten to declare the withevents object in the parent form as the specific Form_MySubformName. Blame it on advanced age and mental deterioration ... And Windows XP. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 11:54 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] RaiseEvent from subform to Parent Yes. Drew. But my parent form seems to be blind. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 11:48 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] RaiseEvent from subform to Parent Right, you declare the event on the object you want to have the event fire FOR, but you use the WithEvents statement on the object you want to 'SEE' the event. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 2:33 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] RaiseEvent from subform to Parent I did, Drew, but the custom event has to be declared on the subform unless I've totallly lost my mind.(no wisecracks, please) And for some reason RaiseEvent doesn't seem to be working. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 11:10 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] RaiseEvent from subform to Parent If I read your post right, you need to declare the subform on the main form with the 'withevents' statement, not the other way around. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 1:21 PM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] RaiseEvent from subform to Parent I'm trying to raise a custom event from an XP subform to its parent form without any luck. The event is declared public in the subform, is being raised with the appropriate argument, and the parent form declared and instantiated an object WithEvents, but the equivalent event procedure in the parent form never fires. Is this something that just can't be done or have I missed a step somewhere? JC? Charlotte Foust _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From markH at bitgen.co.uk Tue Apr 8 15:46:47 2003 From: markH at bitgen.co.uk (Mark Hayes) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 21:46:47 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Simple stored proc problem (I hope) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c2fe0f$f9d47490$0100a8c0@netboxxp> Hello again... I am using XP data project and have a problem with a stored proc. I am attempting to update a person record by passing a psnID and a new name (just playing) The problem is that although I may pass the psnID as "11" the record with the ID "1" is changed. If I am trying to update the psnID "55" then "5" gets updated. The sproc is v.simple and I really can't see whats going wrong UPDATE tbl_psn SET person_name=@person_name_2 WHERE (psnID=@psnID_1) The psnID field is nvarchar 10 This XP stuffs getting confusing :o( Any help much appreciated Mark --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.470 / Virus Database: 268 - Release Date: 08/04/2003 From pedro at plex.nl Tue Apr 8 16:01:58 2003 From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 23:01:58 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places References: <008001c2fdc1$7819afe0$fdc581d5@pedro> <3721311654.20030408145542@cactus.dk> Message-ID: <00e101c2fe12$3d7a5910$f6c581d5@pedro> Hello Gustav, When is use currency, is there a way to get ride of the currency symbol (except changing regional options in the control panel) Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places > Hi Pedro > > In that case use Currency as the datatype and all your troubles will > be gone. > If you don't can (or want to) do this, apply CCur() and all your > single values in the calculation you perform. > > /gustav > > > i want truly round numbers with 1 precision. > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From markH at bitgen.co.uk Tue Apr 8 16:03:02 2003 From: markH at bitgen.co.uk (Mark Hayes) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 22:03:02 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Simple stored proc problem (I hope) In-Reply-To: <000001c2fe0f$f9d47490$0100a8c0@netboxxp> Message-ID: <000101c2fe12$3e3ae9f0$0100a8c0@netboxxp> Just had another go and it?s the same for characters... If I enter "AAA" then recod "A" gets updated... If I do the same update from code using a simple update sql string and a command object then its ok. ???? Mark -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Hayes Sent: 08 April 2003 21:47 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Simple stored proc problem (I hope) Hello again... I am using XP data project and have a problem with a stored proc. I am attempting to update a person record by passing a psnID and a new name (just playing) The problem is that although I may pass the psnID as "11" the record with the ID "1" is changed. If I am trying to update the psnID "55" then "5" gets updated. The sproc is v.simple and I really can't see whats going wrong UPDATE tbl_psn SET person_name=@person_name_2 WHERE (psnID=@psnID_1) The psnID field is nvarchar 10 This XP stuffs getting confusing :o( Any help much appreciated Mark --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.470 / Virus Database: 268 - Release Date: 08/04/2003 _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.470 / Virus Database: 268 - Release Date: 08/04/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.470 / Virus Database: 268 - Release Date: 08/04/2003 From Jdemarco at hshhp.org Tue Apr 8 16:31:57 2003 From: Jdemarco at hshhp.org (Jim DeMarco) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 17:31:57 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Slightly OT:Electronic Medical Record Message-ID: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F99D85857@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com> Thanks Dan. I'll take a look. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 3:53 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Slightly OT:Electronic Medical Record Jim, http://www.fda.gov/ora/compliance_ref/part11/ This is the web site from the FDA that has all the official information. It's a lot to wade through, and the requirements seem strict. Your company should have a Regulatory Manager who is or should be familiar with these requirements. AFAIK, Access alone does not meet the security requirements, but an Access FE with a SQL BE will. The difficult requirement is that the user must re-enter the user name and a password (not necessarily the same as the network log-in password) immediately prior to making an electronic 'signature'. There may also be a requirement for an audit trail of all the changes made in a record. Also, the strictness of the rules can vary depending on the product or service. Good Luck! Dan Waters -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 12:20 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Slightly OT:Electronic Medical Record Does anyone on this list (in the health care industry) have any familiarity with these or use them? Thanks, Jim DeMarco Director of Product Development HealthSource/Hudson Health Plan -----Original Message----- From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK [mailto:Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 1:54 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] OT Smart Tags Anyone know of any security issues surrounding the use of Smart Tags with particular reference to thier use in Access. Martin _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ************************************************************************ *********** "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank You". ************************************************************************ *********** _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com *********************************************************************************** "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank You". *********************************************************************************** From my.lists at verizon.net Tue Apr 8 16:56:39 2003 From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 14:56:39 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Simple stored proc problem (I hope) References: <000101c2fe12$3e3ae9f0$0100a8c0@netboxxp> Message-ID: <002001c2fe19$bc7029a0$b615010a@FHTAPIA> Mark, as this is getting more SQL Server related than simply Access ADP's I'm also posting to the dba-SqlServer list (to subscribe follow this link: http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver) Now on to the problem... How are you passing the parameters over to SQL server? could you post that info? also, do you have QA (Query Analyzer) if so I would suggest trying out what is happening there... I was going to ask why is the psnID declared as varchar, but you did mentioned you were testing so I am assuming that your planning on using alphanumeric psnID's. in QA you would execute the following Select * FROM tbl_psn Where psnID = '11' what are your results? -Francisco http://rcm.netfirms.com On Tuesday, April 08, 2003 2:03 PM [GMT-8], Mark Hayes wrote: : Just had another go and it?s the same for characters... If I enter : "AAA" then recod "A" gets updated... : : If I do the same update from code using a simple update sql string : and a command object then its ok. : : ???? : : Mark : : -----Original Message----- : From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com : [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Hayes : Sent: 08 April 2003 21:47 : To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com : Subject: [AccessD] Simple stored proc problem (I hope) : : : Hello again... : : I am using XP data project and have a problem with a stored proc. : : I am attempting to update a person record by passing a psnID and a new : name (just playing) : : The problem is that although I may pass the psnID as "11" the record : with the ID "1" is changed. If I am trying to update the psnID "55" : then "5" gets updated. : : The sproc is v.simple and I really can't see whats going wrong : : UPDATE tbl_psn : SET person_name=@person_name_2 : WHERE (psnID=@psnID_1) : : The psnID field is nvarchar 10 : : This XP stuffs getting confusing :o( : : Any help much appreciated : : Mark : From my.lists at verizon.net Tue Apr 8 16:56:39 2003 From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 14:56:39 -0700 Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Re: [AccessD] Simple stored proc problem (I hope) References: <000101c2fe12$3e3ae9f0$0100a8c0@netboxxp> Message-ID: <002001c2fe19$bc7029a0$b615010a@FHTAPIA> Mark, as this is getting more SQL Server related than simply Access ADP's I'm also posting to the dba-SqlServer list (to subscribe follow this link: http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver) Now on to the problem... How are you passing the parameters over to SQL server? could you post that info? also, do you have QA (Query Analyzer) if so I would suggest trying out what is happening there... I was going to ask why is the psnID declared as varchar, but you did mentioned you were testing so I am assuming that your planning on using alphanumeric psnID's. in QA you would execute the following Select * FROM tbl_psn Where psnID = '11' what are your results? -Francisco http://rcm.netfirms.com On Tuesday, April 08, 2003 2:03 PM [GMT-8], Mark Hayes wrote: : Just had another go and it?s the same for characters... If I enter : "AAA" then recod "A" gets updated... : : If I do the same update from code using a simple update sql string : and a command object then its ok. : : ???? : : Mark : : -----Original Message----- : From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com : [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Hayes : Sent: 08 April 2003 21:47 : To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com : Subject: [AccessD] Simple stored proc problem (I hope) : : : Hello again... : : I am using XP data project and have a problem with a stored proc. : : I am attempting to update a person record by passing a psnID and a new : name (just playing) : : The problem is that although I may pass the psnID as "11" the record : with the ID "1" is changed. If I am trying to update the psnID "55" : then "5" gets updated. : : The sproc is v.simple and I really can't see whats going wrong : : UPDATE tbl_psn : SET person_name=@person_name_2 : WHERE (psnID=@psnID_1) : : The psnID field is nvarchar 10 : : This XP stuffs getting confusing :o( : : Any help much appreciated : : Mark : _______________________________________________ dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Tue Apr 8 17:05:06 2003 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 18:05:06 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places Message-ID: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF403897681@xlivmbx12.aig.com> On forms and reports you can change the format string from "Currency" to "#.0" > -----Original Message----- > From: Pedro Janssen [SMTP:pedro at plex.nl] > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 5:02 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places > > Hello Gustav, > > When is use currency, is there a way to get ride of the currency symbol > (except changing regional options in the control panel) > > Pedro > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gustav Brock" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 2:55 PM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places > > > > Hi Pedro > > > > In that case use Currency as the datatype and all your troubles will > > be gone. > > If you don't can (or want to) do this, apply CCur() and all your > > single values in the calculation you perform. > > > > /gustav > > > > > i want truly round numbers with 1 precision. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From markH at bitgen.co.uk Tue Apr 8 17:35:19 2003 From: markH at bitgen.co.uk (Mark Hayes) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 23:35:19 +0100 Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Re: [AccessD] Simple stored proc problem (I hope) In-Reply-To: <002001c2fe19$bc7029a0$b615010a@FHTAPIA> Message-ID: <000001c2fe1f$23336fd0$0100a8c0@netboxxp> Thanks Francisco The stored proc is.... CREATE PROCEDURE dbo.update_tbl_psn_1(@psnID_1 [nvarchar], @person_name_2 [nvarchar](100)) AS UPDATE dbo.tbl_psn SET person_name = @person_name_2 WHERE (psnID = @psnID_1) GO in query analyser if I execute SELECT * FROM tbl_psn WHERE psnID='555' I get the record for the person whose ID is "555" however, still in QA, if I execute the SP like this exec update_tbl_psn_1 '555','Updated Name' then its the record with an ID of "5" thats updated. I have tried this from QA and Access and get the same result. If I execute the SP from access by just double clicking on it, I get prompted for the parameters (psnID and person_name), if I enter "555" as the psnID record "5" gets updated. I have even had the same result working with a separate sql server installation and a different data set / table. This is really confusing me as I have written SP's before (a couple of years) ago that work just fine. Really scratching my head on this one Cheers Mark -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco H Tapia Sent: 08 April 2003 22:57 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com; dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Re: [AccessD] Simple stored proc problem (I hope) Mark, as this is getting more SQL Server related than simply Access ADP's I'm also posting to the dba-SqlServer list (to subscribe follow this link: http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver) Now on to the problem... How are you passing the parameters over to SQL server? could you post that info? also, do you have QA (Query Analyzer) if so I would suggest trying out what is happening there... I was going to ask why is the psnID declared as varchar, but you did mentioned you were testing so I am assuming that your planning on using alphanumeric psnID's. in QA you would execute the following Select * FROM tbl_psn Where psnID = '11' what are your results? -Francisco http://rcm.netfirms.com On Tuesday, April 08, 2003 2:03 PM [GMT-8], Mark Hayes wrote: : Just had another go and it?s the same for characters... If I enter : "AAA" then recod "A" gets updated... : : If I do the same update from code using a simple update sql string : and a command object then its ok. : : ???? : : Mark : : -----Original Message----- : From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com : [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Hayes : Sent: 08 April 2003 21:47 : To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com : Subject: [AccessD] Simple stored proc problem (I hope) : : : Hello again... : : I am using XP data project and have a problem with a stored proc. : : I am attempting to update a person record by passing a psnID and a new : name (just playing) : : The problem is that although I may pass the psnID as "11" the record : with the ID "1" is changed. If I am trying to update the psnID "55" : then "5" gets updated. : : The sproc is v.simple and I really can't see whats going wrong : : UPDATE tbl_psn : SET person_name=@person_name_2 : WHERE (psnID=@psnID_1) : : The psnID field is nvarchar 10 : : This XP stuffs getting confusing :o( : : Any help much appreciated : : Mark : _______________________________________________ dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.470 / Virus Database: 268 - Release Date: 08/04/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.470 / Virus Database: 268 - Release Date: 08/04/2003 From markH at bitgen.co.uk Tue Apr 8 17:48:07 2003 From: markH at bitgen.co.uk (Mark Hayes) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 23:48:07 +0100 Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Re: [AccessD] Simple stored proc problem (I hope) In-Reply-To: <000001c2fe1f$23336fd0$0100a8c0@netboxxp> Message-ID: <000001c2fe20$ec4b4680$0100a8c0@netboxxp> DOH! Just realised I had declared the @psnID without length, i.e. @psnID_1 [nvarchar] as opposed to @psnID_1 [nvarchar] (10)... Out of interest... The SQL string viewd in access is very different from that viewed in QA. I can see the SP parameters in the properties window, but isn't it possible to view the entire sql string as you would in Enterprise manager? Thanks again Mark -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Hayes Sent: 08 April 2003 23:35 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com; dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Re: [AccessD] Simple stored proc problem (I hope) Thanks Francisco The stored proc is.... CREATE PROCEDURE dbo.update_tbl_psn_1(@psnID_1 [nvarchar], @person_name_2 [nvarchar](100)) AS UPDATE dbo.tbl_psn SET person_name = @person_name_2 WHERE (psnID = @psnID_1) GO in query analyser if I execute SELECT * FROM tbl_psn WHERE psnID='555' I get the record for the person whose ID is "555" however, still in QA, if I execute the SP like this exec update_tbl_psn_1 '555','Updated Name' then its the record with an ID of "5" thats updated. I have tried this from QA and Access and get the same result. If I execute the SP from access by just double clicking on it, I get prompted for the parameters (psnID and person_name), if I enter "555" as the psnID record "5" gets updated. I have even had the same result working with a separate sql server installation and a different data set / table. This is really confusing me as I have written SP's before (a couple of years) ago that work just fine. Really scratching my head on this one Cheers Mark -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco H Tapia Sent: 08 April 2003 22:57 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com; dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Re: [AccessD] Simple stored proc problem (I hope) Mark, as this is getting more SQL Server related than simply Access ADP's I'm also posting to the dba-SqlServer list (to subscribe follow this link: http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver) Now on to the problem... How are you passing the parameters over to SQL server? could you post that info? also, do you have QA (Query Analyzer) if so I would suggest trying out what is happening there... I was going to ask why is the psnID declared as varchar, but you did mentioned you were testing so I am assuming that your planning on using alphanumeric psnID's. in QA you would execute the following Select * FROM tbl_psn Where psnID = '11' what are your results? -Francisco http://rcm.netfirms.com On Tuesday, April 08, 2003 2:03 PM [GMT-8], Mark Hayes wrote: : Just had another go and it?s the same for characters... If I enter : "AAA" then recod "A" gets updated... : : If I do the same update from code using a simple update sql string : and a command object then its ok. : : ???? : : Mark : : -----Original Message----- : From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com : [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Hayes : Sent: 08 April 2003 21:47 : To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com : Subject: [AccessD] Simple stored proc problem (I hope) : : : Hello again... : : I am using XP data project and have a problem with a stored proc. : : I am attempting to update a person record by passing a psnID and a new : name (just playing) : : The problem is that although I may pass the psnID as "11" the record : with the ID "1" is changed. If I am trying to update the psnID "55" : then "5" gets updated. : : The sproc is v.simple and I really can't see whats going wrong : : UPDATE tbl_psn : SET person_name=@person_name_2 : WHERE (psnID=@psnID_1) : : The psnID field is nvarchar 10 : : This XP stuffs getting confusing :o( : : Any help much appreciated : : Mark : _______________________________________________ dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.470 / Virus Database: 268 - Release Date: 08/04/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.470 / Virus Database: 268 - Release Date: 08/04/2003 _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.470 / Virus Database: 268 - Release Date: 08/04/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.470 / Virus Database: 268 - Release Date: 08/04/2003 From kathryn at bassett.net Tue Apr 8 19:53:30 2003 From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 17:53:30 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! In-Reply-To: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82625@main2.marlow.com> Message-ID: Drew said: AccessD Archives > Of course, ironically, this post will get a little goofy in the archives, > because the 'example' above is going to show up as HTML, so it will be a > hyperlink. This should do the trick: 
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See what that does in the archives. -- Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA) "Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap" kathryn at bassett.net http://bassett.net From kathryn at bassett.net Tue Apr 8 20:07:05 2003 From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 18:07:05 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: How long (on average) should it take for a message to show up when doing a search (from time of posting)? My posting showed up at 5:58 (pacific), and at 6:05 it still isn't there. I did my search on get a little goofy and see several messages of the thread, but not mine, so far. Which led to this question, just because I'm curious. -- Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA) "Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap" kathryn at bassett.net http://bassett.net From kathryn at bassett.net Tue Apr 8 20:11:17 2003 From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 18:11:17 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Nevermind. Just read the "behind the scenes" and found it checks every two hours. So, depending on when the last check was, it could be two hours from now or 5 minutes from now, or somewhere in between. -- Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA) "Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap" kathryn at bassett.net http://bassett.net > -----Original Message----- > From: Kathryn Bassett [mailto:kathryn at bassett.net] > Sent: 08 Apr 2003 6:07:PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! > > > How long (on average) should it take for a message to show up when doing a search > (from time of posting)? > > My posting showed up at 5:58 (pacific), and at 6:05 it still isn't there. I did my search on > get a little goofy > and see several messages of the thread, but not mine, so far. Which led to this > question, just because I'm curious. > > -- > Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA) > "Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap" > kathryn at bassett.net > http://bassett.net From SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au Tue Apr 8 22:18:58 2003 From: SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au (Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 13:18:58 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] HELP - Date in SQL string Message-ID: <004001c2fe46$c2c0db60$54dd31d2@OfficePC> Hi all (A2K) This line of code works: strsql = "INSERT INTO tblItemsInQuote (quoteID, Sequence) VALUES (" & IntQuoteID & "," & StrDayNo & ")" The debug shows result as: INSERT INTO tblItemsInQuote (quoteID, Sequence) VALUES (1,1) But I cannot get it right when I amend it to also populate a date field, ie using: strsql = "INSERT INTO tblItemsInQuote (quoteID, Date, Sequence) VALUES (" & IntQuoteID & ",#" & DteDay1 & "#," & StrDayNo & ")" The debug shows it as: INSERT INTO tblItemsInQuote (quoteID, Date, Sequence) VALUES (1,#01/04/03#,1) TIA Kath Pelletti Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. Ph: 9505-6714 Fax: 9505-6430 SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chris at denverdb.com Tue Apr 8 22:35:12 2003 From: chris at denverdb.com (Chris Mackin) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 21:35:12 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] HELP - Date in SQL string In-Reply-To: <004001c2fe46$c2c0db60$54dd31d2@OfficePC> Message-ID: Try renaming the [Date] field to anything that's NOT a reserve keyword. A field name should never be one of the Access reserved keywords (here's a list: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q209187) Change the name of the field "Date" to "MyDateField" or whatever and try it again. Chris Mackin www.denverdb.com Denver Database Consulting, LLC -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 9:19 PM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] HELP - Date in SQL string Hi all (A2K) This line of code works: strsql = "INSERT INTO tblItemsInQuote (quoteID, Sequence) VALUES (" & IntQuoteID & "," & StrDayNo & ")" The debug shows result as: INSERT INTO tblItemsInQuote (quoteID, Sequence) VALUES (1,1) But I cannot get it right when I amend it to also populate a date field, ie using: strsql = "INSERT INTO tblItemsInQuote (quoteID, Date, Sequence) VALUES (" & IntQuoteID & ",#" & DteDay1 & "#," & StrDayNo & ")" The debug shows it as: INSERT INTO tblItemsInQuote (quoteID, Date, Sequence) VALUES (1,#01/04/03#,1) TIA Kath Pelletti Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. Ph: 9505-6714 Fax: 9505-6430 SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au From SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au Tue Apr 8 22:44:57 2003 From: SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au (Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 13:44:57 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] HELP - Date in SQL string References: Message-ID: <005401c2fe4a$641f67d0$54dd31d2@OfficePC> ....that's it. Much appreciated. Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Mackin To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 1:35 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] HELP - Date in SQL string Try renaming the [Date] field to anything that's NOT a reserve keyword. A field name should never be one of the Access reserved keywords (here's a list: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q209187) Change the name of the field "Date" to "MyDateField" or whatever and try it again. Chris Mackin www.denverdb.com Denver Database Consulting, LLC -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 9:19 PM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] HELP - Date in SQL string Hi all (A2K) This line of code works: strsql = "INSERT INTO tblItemsInQuote (quoteID, Sequence) VALUES (" & IntQuoteID & "," & StrDayNo & ")" The debug shows result as: INSERT INTO tblItemsInQuote (quoteID, Sequence) VALUES (1,1) But I cannot get it right when I amend it to also populate a date field, ie using: strsql = "INSERT INTO tblItemsInQuote (quoteID, Date, Sequence) VALUES (" & IntQuoteID & ",#" & DteDay1 & "#," & StrDayNo & ")" The debug shows it as: INSERT INTO tblItemsInQuote (quoteID, Date, Sequence) VALUES (1,#01/04/03#,1) TIA Kath Pelletti Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. Ph: 9505-6714 Fax: 9505-6430 SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au Tue Apr 8 23:26:38 2003 From: SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au (Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 14:26:38 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh Message-ID: <007001c2fe50$36c7ae90$54dd31d2@OfficePC> strsql = "INSERT INTO tblItemsInQuote (quoteID, ItemDate, Sequence) VALUES (" & IntQuoteID & ",#" & Format(DteDay1, "dd-mm-yy") & "#," & StrDayNo & ")" This string works, but I end up with a date formatted mm-dd-yy in my table. The field in the table has a format property of dd-mm-yy. ???? Kath Pelletti Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. 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Sent: 09 April 2003 05:27 To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh strsql = "INSERT INTO tblItemsInQuote (quoteID, ItemDate, Sequence) VALUES (" & IntQuoteID & ",#" & Format(DteDay1, "dd-mm-yy") & "#," & StrDayNo & ")" This string works, but I end up with a date formatted mm-dd-yy in my table. The field in the table has a format property of dd-mm-yy. ???? Kath Pelletti Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. Ph: 9505-6714 Fax: 9505-6430 SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gustav at cactus.dk Wed Apr 9 03:24:30 2003 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 10:24:30 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] HELP - Date in SQL string In-Reply-To: <005401c2fe4a$641f67d0$54dd31d2@OfficePC> References: <005401c2fe4a$641f67d0$54dd31d2@OfficePC> Message-ID: <1795684694.20030409102430@cactus.dk> Hi Kath Did you try to bracket your field name: strsql = "INSERT INTO tblItemsInQuote (quoteID, [Date], Sequence) .. /gustav From gustav at cactus.dk Wed Apr 9 03:29:29 2003 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 10:29:29 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh In-Reply-To: <007001c2fe50$36c7ae90$54dd31d2@OfficePC> References: <007001c2fe50$36c7ae90$54dd31d2@OfficePC> Message-ID: <1035984134.20030409102929@cactus.dk> Hi Kath Further to Andy's advice, you should force a slash as the separator and use four digit years too: Format(DteDay1, "mm\/dd\/yyyy") /gustav > strsql = "INSERT INTO tblItemsInQuote (quoteID, ItemDate, Sequence) VALUES (" & IntQuoteID & ",#" & Format(DteDay1, "dd-mm-yy") & "#," & StrDayNo & ")" > This string works, but I end up with a date formatted mm-dd-yy in my table. From gustav at cactus.dk Wed Apr 9 03:34:43 2003 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 10:34:43 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] roundup - decimal places In-Reply-To: <00e101c2fe12$3d7a5910$f6c581d5@pedro> References: <008001c2fdc1$7819afe0$fdc581d5@pedro> <00e101c2fe12$3d7a5910$f6c581d5@pedro> Message-ID: <1626297955.20030409103443@cactus.dk> Hi Pedro > When is use currency, is there a way to get ride of the currency symbol > (except changing regional options in the control panel) Yes, as Lambert says, specify a format as needed in forms and reports. If you preview the query directly, a format can in this be specified for each field too. /gustav >> In that case use Currency as the datatype and all your troubles will >> be gone. >> If you don't can (or want to) do this, apply CCur() and all your >> single values in the calculation you perform. From SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au Wed Apr 9 05:03:16 2003 From: SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au (Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 20:03:16 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh References: <00c501c2fe69$60fb5360$b274d0d5@andypc> Message-ID: <002401c2fe7f$3dfba980$54dd31d2@OfficePC> MessageThat's so strange. So it's an SQL setting? Thanks Andy / Gustav - advice taken. Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Lacey To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 5:26 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh Kath IIRC SQL always uses US format dates. If you change your format to "mm-dd-yy" it'll work. SQL will place the date in the table correctly, then your field's format will take over and display it correctly. Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. Sent: 09 April 2003 05:27 To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh strsql = "INSERT INTO tblItemsInQuote (quoteID, ItemDate, Sequence) VALUES (" & IntQuoteID & ",#" & Format(DteDay1, "dd-mm-yy") & "#," & StrDayNo & ")" This string works, but I end up with a date formatted mm-dd-yy in my table. The field in the table has a format property of dd-mm-yy. ???? Kath Pelletti Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. 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Maybe that would have worked?? Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: Gustav Brock To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] HELP - Date in SQL string Hi Kath Did you try to bracket your field name: strsql = "INSERT INTO tblItemsInQuote (quoteID, [Date], Sequence) .. /gustav _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Wed Apr 9 05:11:58 2003 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 11:11:58 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] HELP - Date in SQL string In-Reply-To: <002e01c2fe7f$8afd6840$54dd31d2@OfficePC> Message-ID: <00e201c2fe80$74f864e0$b274d0d5@andypc> I think it would Kath, but using a reserved word as a field name means having to remember to do that the whole time. You also have to be very careful in code too. I once made this mistake myself. I had my field called Date on a form, referred to in code (blahblah=me.Date) and Access got its knickers in a right old twist. Didn't know what I was referring to and even corrupted the form IIRC. Had to rename the field AND build a new form. Right old mess. Definitely better not to go down that route. Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. Sent: 09 April 2003 11:05 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] HELP - Date in SQL string To tell you the truth Gustav now that I've had to change the field name (slap wrist) in the BE and throughout the FE I don't want to go back and try that - but when I had that error the field was not bracketed. Maybe that would have worked?? Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: Gustav Brock To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] HELP - Date in SQL string Hi Kath Did you try to bracket your field name: strsql = "INSERT INTO tblItemsInQuote (quoteID, [Date], Sequence) .. /gustav _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Wed Apr 9 06:40:26 2003 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 21:40:26 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh In-Reply-To: <002401c2fe7f$3dfba980$54dd31d2@OfficePC> Message-ID: <3E94934A.9805.2D8D985@localhost> It's a "feature" of Access. From the A2K Help file: "Use International Date Formats in SQL Statements You must use English (United States) date formats in SQL statements in Visual Basic. However, you can use international date formats in the query designgrid." On 9 Apr 2003 at 20:03, Software Design & Solutions P wrote: > MessageThat's so strange. So it's an SQL setting? > Thanks Andy / Gustav - advice taken. > > Kath > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Andy Lacey > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 5:26 PM > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh > > > Kath > IIRC SQL always uses US format dates. If you change your format to > "mm-dd-yy" it'll work. SQL will place the date in the table > correctly, then your field's format will take over and display it > correctly. > > Andy Lacey > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. Sent: 09 April 2003 05:27 To: > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Dates again- > aarrgghh > > > strsql = "INSERT INTO tblItemsInQuote (quoteID, ItemDate, > Sequence) VALUES (" & IntQuoteID & ",#" & Format(DteDay1, > "dd-mm-yy") & "#," & StrDayNo & ")" > > This string works, but I end up with a date formatted mm-dd-yy in > my table. > > The field in the table has a format property of dd-mm-yy. > > ???? > > Kath Pelletti > Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. > Ph: 9505-6714 > Fax: 9505-6430 > SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. From BarbaraRyan at cox.net Wed Apr 9 06:57:24 2003 From: BarbaraRyan at cox.net (Barbara Ryan) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 07:57:24 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Format for decimal Message-ID: <006401c2fe8f$301a3ec0$a2c50a44@hr.cox.net> I am displaying several "hours worked" fields on a report (which contains 2 decimal positions). If hours worked is a whole number, I do NOT want to display any decimal positions (e.g. "8"); if hours worked is 0, I do not want to display anything (i.e., leave the field blank/null); it hours worked contains decimals, I want to display the decimals (e.g., "8.25"). If I set up the format as "##.##", the decimal point is displayed when hours worked is a whole number (e.g., "8.") How do I get rid of that pesky decimal point?? Thanks, Barb Ryan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mikedorism at ntelos.net Wed Apr 9 07:16:43 2003 From: mikedorism at ntelos.net (Mike and Doris Manning) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 08:16:43 -0400 Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Re: [AccessD] Simple stored proc problem (I hope) In-Reply-To: <000001c2fe20$ec4b4680$0100a8c0@netboxxp> Message-ID: <002b01c2fe91$e67a8f60$f8320cd8@hargrove.internal> Yes it is. When you are in Access Query Design, change your view to SQL View. Doris Manning Database Administrator Hargrove Inc. www.hargroveinc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Hayes Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 06:48 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Re: [AccessD] Simple stored proc problem (I hope) DOH! Just realised I had declared the @psnID without length, i.e. @psnID_1 [nvarchar] as opposed to @psnID_1 [nvarchar] (10)... Out of interest... The SQL string viewd in access is very different from that viewed in QA. I can see the SP parameters in the properties window, but isn't it possible to view the entire sql string as you would in Enterprise manager? Thanks again Mark -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Hayes Sent: 08 April 2003 23:35 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com; dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Re: [AccessD] Simple stored proc problem (I hope) Thanks Francisco The stored proc is.... CREATE PROCEDURE dbo.update_tbl_psn_1(@psnID_1 [nvarchar], @person_name_2 [nvarchar](100)) AS UPDATE dbo.tbl_psn SET person_name = @person_name_2 WHERE (psnID = @psnID_1) GO in query analyser if I execute SELECT * FROM tbl_psn WHERE psnID='555' I get the record for the person whose ID is "555" however, still in QA, if I execute the SP like this exec update_tbl_psn_1 '555','Updated Name' then its the record with an ID of "5" thats updated. I have tried this from QA and Access and get the same result. If I execute the SP from access by just double clicking on it, I get prompted for the parameters (psnID and person_name), if I enter "555" as the psnID record "5" gets updated. I have even had the same result working with a separate sql server installation and a different data set / table. This is really confusing me as I have written SP's before (a couple of years) ago that work just fine. Really scratching my head on this one Cheers Mark -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco H Tapia Sent: 08 April 2003 22:57 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com; dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Re: [AccessD] Simple stored proc problem (I hope) Mark, as this is getting more SQL Server related than simply Access ADP's I'm also posting to the dba-SqlServer list (to subscribe follow this link: http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver) Now on to the problem... How are you passing the parameters over to SQL server? could you post that info? also, do you have QA (Query Analyzer) if so I would suggest trying out what is happening there... I was going to ask why is the psnID declared as varchar, but you did mentioned you were testing so I am assuming that your planning on using alphanumeric psnID's. in QA you would execute the following Select * FROM tbl_psn Where psnID = '11' what are your results? -Francisco http://rcm.netfirms.com On Tuesday, April 08, 2003 2:03 PM [GMT-8], Mark Hayes wrote: : Just had another go and it's the same for characters... If I enter : "AAA" then recod "A" gets updated... : : If I do the same update from code using a simple update sql string : and a command object then its ok. : : ???? : : Mark : : -----Original Message----- : From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com : [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Hayes : Sent: 08 April 2003 21:47 : To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com : Subject: [AccessD] Simple stored proc problem (I hope) : : : Hello again... : : I am using XP data project and have a problem with a stored proc. : : I am attempting to update a person record by passing a psnID and a new : name (just playing) : : The problem is that although I may pass the psnID as "11" the record : with the ID "1" is changed. If I am trying to update the psnID "55" : then "5" gets updated. : : The sproc is v.simple and I really can't see whats going wrong : : UPDATE tbl_psn : SET person_name=@person_name_2 : WHERE (psnID=@psnID_1) : : The psnID field is nvarchar 10 : : This XP stuffs getting confusing :o( : : Any help much appreciated : : Mark : _______________________________________________ dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.470 / Virus Database: 268 - Release Date: 08/04/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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Version: 6.0.470 / Virus Database: 268 - Release Date: 08/04/2003 _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Wed Apr 9 07:32:20 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 07:32:20 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Format for decimal Message-ID: Barb, If I understand you correctly you are trying to display a numeric field with one of three different formats depending on the value. AFAIK this is not possible directly. The only solution I know of is to test the numeric value and then convert it to the proper string value for display. If number = 0 then txtnumber = "" elseif number = Int(number) then txtnumber = format(number,99) else txtnumber = format(number,99.99) endif Warning above is air code, no guarantees. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Ryan [mailto:BarbaraRyan at cox.net] Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 09 06:57 To: Access List Subject: [AccessD] Format for decimal I am displaying several "hours worked" fields on a report (which contains 2 decimal positions). If hours worked is a whole number, I do NOT want to display any decimal positions (e.g. "8"); if hours worked is 0, I do not want to display anything (i.e., leave the field blank/null); it hours worked contains decimals, I want to display the decimals (e.g., "8.25"). If I set up the format as "##.##", the decimal point is displayed when hours worked is a whole number (e.g., "8.") How do I get rid of that pesky decimal point?? Thanks, Barb Ryan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au Wed Apr 9 07:35:41 2003 From: SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au (Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 22:35:41 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh References: <3E94934A.9805.2D8D985@localhost> Message-ID: <001601c2fe94$883b0760$54dd31d2@OfficePC> I am amazed that that 'feature' hasn't bitten me before. Shouldn't we non US developers get a discount? (grin) ----- Original Message ----- From: Stuart McLachlan To: Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. ; accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 9:40 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh It's a "feature" of Access. From the A2K Help file: "Use International Date Formats in SQL Statements You must use English (United States) date formats in SQL statements in Visual Basic. However, you can use international date formats in the query designgrid." On 9 Apr 2003 at 20:03, Software Design & Solutions P wrote: > MessageThat's so strange. So it's an SQL setting? > Thanks Andy / Gustav - advice taken. > > Kath > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Andy Lacey > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 5:26 PM > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh > > > Kath > IIRC SQL always uses US format dates. If you change your format to > "mm-dd-yy" it'll work. SQL will place the date in the table > correctly, then your field's format will take over and display it > correctly. > > Andy Lacey > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. Sent: 09 April 2003 05:27 To: > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Dates again- > aarrgghh > > > strsql = "INSERT INTO tblItemsInQuote (quoteID, ItemDate, > Sequence) VALUES (" & IntQuoteID & ",#" & Format(DteDay1, > "dd-mm-yy") & "#," & StrDayNo & ")" > > This string works, but I end up with a date formatted mm-dd-yy in > my table. > > The field in the table has a format property of dd-mm-yy. > > ???? > > Kath Pelletti > Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. > Ph: 9505-6714 > Fax: 9505-6430 > SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From BarbaraRyan at cox.net Wed Apr 9 07:48:27 2003 From: BarbaraRyan at cox.net (Barbara Ryan) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 08:48:27 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Format for decimal References: Message-ID: <001b01c2fe96$50db6420$a2c50a44@hr.cox.net> MessageThanks, Charles....I'll give it a try................Barb ----- Original Message ----- From: Wortz, Charles To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 8:32 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Format for decimal Barb, If I understand you correctly you are trying to display a numeric field with one of three different formats depending on the value. AFAIK this is not possible directly. The only solution I know of is to test the numeric value and then convert it to the proper string value for display. If number = 0 then txtnumber = "" elseif number = Int(number) then txtnumber = format(number,99) else txtnumber = format(number,99.99) endif Warning above is air code, no guarantees. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Ryan [mailto:BarbaraRyan at cox.net] Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 09 06:57 To: Access List Subject: [AccessD] Format for decimal I am displaying several "hours worked" fields on a report (which contains 2 decimal positions). If hours worked is a whole number, I do NOT want to display any decimal positions (e.g. "8"); if hours worked is 0, I do not want to display anything (i.e., leave the field blank/null); it hours worked contains decimals, I want to display the decimals (e.g., "8.25"). If I set up the format as "##.##", the decimal point is displayed when hours worked is a whole number (e.g., "8.") How do I get rid of that pesky decimal point?? Thanks, Barb Ryan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gustav at cactus.dk Wed Apr 9 07:45:51 2003 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 14:45:51 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Format for decimal In-Reply-To: <006401c2fe8f$301a3ec0$a2c50a44@hr.cox.net> References: <006401c2fe8f$301a3ec0$a2c50a44@hr.cox.net> Message-ID: <4821366012.20030409144551@cactus.dk> Hi Barbara > I am displaying several "hours worked" fields on a report (which contains 2 decimal positions). If hours worked is a whole number, I do NOT want to display any decimal positions (e.g. "8"); if > hours worked is 0, I do not want to display anything (i.e., leave the field blank/null); it hours worked contains decimals, I want to display the decimals (e.g., "8.25"). > If I set up the format as "##.##", the decimal point is displayed when hours worked is a whole number (e.g., "8.") How do I get rid of that pesky decimal point?? If you only have positive counts you can cheat and adjust your source as this: =IIf(Int([HWorked])=[HWorked];[HWorked];-[HWorked]) which will display a negative count for decimal hours. Now, adjust your format string to this: 0;0.00;"" which will leave blanks for zero hours count. /gustav From markH at bitgen.co.uk Wed Apr 9 07:55:35 2003 From: markH at bitgen.co.uk (MarkH) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 13:55:35 +0100 Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Re: [AccessD] Simple stored proc problem (I hope) In-Reply-To: <002b01c2fe91$e67a8f60$f8320cd8@hargrove.internal> Message-ID: <001401c2fe97$4fe575f0$0100a8c0@netboxxp> Thanks Doris... I was looking in the sql pane and expecting to see the declarations etc. Cheers Mark -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike and Doris Manning Sent: 09 April 2003 13:17 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Re: [AccessD] Simple stored proc problem (I hope) Yes it is. When you are in Access Query Design, change your view to SQL View. Doris Manning Database Administrator Hargrove Inc. www.hargroveinc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Hayes Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 06:48 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Re: [AccessD] Simple stored proc problem (I hope) DOH! Just realised I had declared the @psnID without length, i.e. @psnID_1 [nvarchar] as opposed to @psnID_1 [nvarchar] (10)... Out of interest... The SQL string viewd in access is very different from that viewed in QA. I can see the SP parameters in the properties window, but isn't it possible to view the entire sql string as you would in Enterprise manager? Thanks again Mark -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Hayes Sent: 08 April 2003 23:35 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com; dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [dba-SQLServer]Re: [AccessD] Simple stored proc problem (I hope) Thanks Francisco The stored proc is.... CREATE PROCEDURE dbo.update_tbl_psn_1(@psnID_1 [nvarchar], @person_name_2 [nvarchar](100)) AS UPDATE dbo.tbl_psn SET person_name = @person_name_2 WHERE (psnID = @psnID_1) GO in query analyser if I execute SELECT * FROM tbl_psn WHERE psnID='555' I get the record for the person whose ID is "555" however, still in QA, if I execute the SP like this exec update_tbl_psn_1 '555','Updated Name' then its the record with an ID of "5" thats updated. I have tried this from QA and Access and get the same result. If I execute the SP from access by just double clicking on it, I get prompted for the parameters (psnID and person_name), if I enter "555" as the psnID record "5" gets updated. I have even had the same result working with a separate sql server installation and a different data set / table. This is really confusing me as I have written SP's before (a couple of years) ago that work just fine. Really scratching my head on this one Cheers Mark -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco H Tapia Sent: 08 April 2003 22:57 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com; dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Re: [AccessD] Simple stored proc problem (I hope) Mark, as this is getting more SQL Server related than simply Access ADP's I'm also posting to the dba-SqlServer list (to subscribe follow this link: http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver) Now on to the problem... How are you passing the parameters over to SQL server? could you post that info? also, do you have QA (Query Analyzer) if so I would suggest trying out what is happening there... I was going to ask why is the psnID declared as varchar, but you did mentioned you were testing so I am assuming that your planning on using alphanumeric psnID's. in QA you would execute the following Select * FROM tbl_psn Where psnID = '11' what are your results? -Francisco http://rcm.netfirms.com On Tuesday, April 08, 2003 2:03 PM [GMT-8], Mark Hayes wrote: : Just had another go and it's the same for characters... If I enter : "AAA" then recod "A" gets updated... : : If I do the same update from code using a simple update sql string : and a command object then its ok. : : ???? : : Mark : : -----Original Message----- : From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com : [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Hayes : Sent: 08 April 2003 21:47 : To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com : Subject: [AccessD] Simple stored proc problem (I hope) : : : Hello again... : : I am using XP data project and have a problem with a stored proc. : : I am attempting to update a person record by passing a psnID and a new : name (just playing) : : The problem is that although I may pass the psnID as "11" the record : with the ID "1" is changed. If I am trying to update the psnID "55" : then "5" gets updated. : : The sproc is v.simple and I really can't see whats going wrong : : UPDATE tbl_psn : SET person_name=@person_name_2 : WHERE (psnID=@psnID_1) : : The psnID field is nvarchar 10 : : This XP stuffs getting confusing :o( : : Any help much appreciated : : Mark : _______________________________________________ dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.470 / Virus Database: 268 - Release Date: 08/04/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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Version: 6.0.470 / Virus Database: 268 - Release Date: 08/04/2003 From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Wed Apr 9 08:23:12 2003 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 23:23:12 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh In-Reply-To: <001601c2fe94$883b0760$54dd31d2@OfficePC> Message-ID: <3E94AB60.21776.336EDD7@localhost> It's bitten me many times :-( When I need to build an SQL string using the value from a text box etc, I always use something like: strSQLstring = " ...... fldDate = Datevalue('" & txtDate & "') ...." That works regardless of regional settings. On 9 Apr 2003 at 22:35, Software Design & Solutions P wrote: > I am amazed that that 'feature' hasn't bitten me before. Shouldn't we > non US developers get a discount? (grin) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Stuart McLachlan > To: Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. ; > accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 9:40 PM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh > > > It's a "feature" of Access. From the A2K Help file: > > "Use International Date Formats in SQL Statements > > You must use English (United States) date formats in SQL statements > in Visual Basic. However, you can use international date formats in > the query designgrid." > -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Wed Apr 9 10:32:36 2003 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 15:32:36 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh Message-ID: <20030409143232.4FA831D69A9@mrburns.nildram.co.uk> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Wed Apr 9 10:21:31 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 08:21:31 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh Message-ID: You should have a surcharge, not a discount! It's all your fault that US developers have to deal with internationalization issues in their application! Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. [mailto:SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 4:36 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh I am amazed that that 'feature' hasn't bitten me before. Shouldn't we non US developers get a discount? (grin) ----- Original Message ----- From: Stuart McLachlan To: Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. ; accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 9:40 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh It's a "feature" of Access. From the A2K Help file: "Use International Date Formats in SQL Statements You must use English (United States) date formats in SQL statements in Visual Basic. However, you can use international date formats in the query designgrid." On 9 Apr 2003 at 20:03, Software Design & Solutions P wrote: > MessageThat's so strange. So it's an SQL setting? > Thanks Andy / Gustav - advice taken. > > Kath > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Andy Lacey > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 5:26 PM > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh > > > Kath > IIRC SQL always uses US format dates. If you change your format to > "mm-dd-yy" it'll work. SQL will place the date in the table > correctly, then your field's format will take over and display it > correctly. > > Andy Lacey > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. Sent: 09 April 2003 05:27 To: > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Dates again- > aarrgghh > > > strsql = "INSERT INTO tblItemsInQuote (quoteID, ItemDate, > Sequence) VALUES (" & IntQuoteID & ",#" & Format(DteDay1, > "dd-mm-yy") & "#," & StrDayNo & ")" > > This string works, but I end up with a date formatted mm-dd-yy in > my table. > > The field in the table has a format property of dd-mm-yy. > > ???? > > Kath Pelletti > Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. > Ph: 9505-6714 > Fax: 9505-6430 > SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Wed Apr 9 10:33:39 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 10:33:39 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh Message-ID: And we could cut traffic on this list by 10% or more if everybody would adopt the international date format of yyyymmdd instead of trying to use the obsolete date formats of mmddyy and ddmmyy. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 09 10:22 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh You should have a surcharge, not a discount! It's all your fault that US developers have to deal with internationalization issues in their application! Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. [mailto:SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 4:36 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh I am amazed that that 'feature' hasn't bitten me before. Shouldn't we non US developers get a discount? (grin) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Wed Apr 9 10:40:34 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 08:40:34 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Access XP Meltdowns Message-ID: Has anyone else seen frequent meltdowns on XP (SP-2) databases in development? I've seen this on both source safe mdbs and those compacted out of source safe. The original project seems to be ok, but the copy I'm working on goes down in flames. It appears that malformed code can trigger an endless loop of this, and the backup option only perpetuates the damage. I'm seeing this at least once a day on the app I'm working on, and it's driving me nuts because it happens when I'm in the middle of creating new code, which naturally is malformed until it's complete! Aarrrggghhh!!! Charlotte Foust From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Wed Apr 9 10:42:10 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 08:42:10 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh Message-ID: Talk to Microsoft. *I* didn't invent the date standard for SQL and our apps use a medium date format for display because there is no confusion about reading it, whatever the language. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 7:34 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh And we could cut traffic on this list by 10% or more if everybody would adopt the international date format of yyyymmdd instead of trying to use the obsolete date formats of mmddyy and ddmmyy. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 09 10:22 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh You should have a surcharge, not a discount! It's all your fault that US developers have to deal with internationalization issues in their application! Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. [mailto:SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 4:36 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh I am amazed that that 'feature' hasn't bitten me before. Shouldn't we non US developers get a discount? (grin) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mitsules_ms at nns.com Wed Apr 9 10:43:13 2003 From: mitsules_ms at nns.com (Mitsules, Mark) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 11:43:13 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Poll: Late vs. Early Binding Message-ID: Is it a common practice to first code using early binding, then, after debugging is complete, re-write using late binding? Mark From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Wed Apr 9 10:47:50 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 10:47:50 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Poll: Late vs. Early Binding Message-ID: Mark, Depends on the situation. Can you be more specific? Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Mitsules, Mark [mailto:mitsules_ms at nns.com] Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 09 10:43 To: 'AccessD' Subject: [AccessD] Poll: Late vs. Early Binding Is it a common practice to first code using early binding, then, after debugging is complete, re-write using late binding? Mark From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca Wed Apr 9 11:04:40 2003 From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 12:04:40 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Poll: Late vs. Early Binding Message-ID: I don't know if it is common practice, but I usually write code using early binding, If I am writing for a specific application version, then I leave it as early bound. Otherwise I switch to late binding. You shouldn't have to rewrite any code when switching. All you should have to do is switch your DIMs to objects and derefernce the libraries. You may also have to create your own constants for some of the built in constants from the referenced libraries, but a wholesale rewrite shouldn't be necessary. Right or wrong, this is what works for me. Bryan Carbonnell bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca >>> mitsules_ms at nns.com 09-Apr-03 11:43:13 AM >>> Is it a common practice to first code using early binding, then, after debugging is complete, re-write using late binding? From mitsules_ms at nns.com Wed Apr 9 11:15:32 2003 From: mitsules_ms at nns.com (Mitsules, Mark) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 12:15:32 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Poll: Late vs. Early Binding Message-ID: Bryan, Perhaps I could have said re-code rather than re-write, but your response more closely answers the question I was NOT asking, which was... Do the members of this group utilize the IDE advantages of early binding whenever possible while coding or is the expertise at a level where the advantages are negligible. Thank you, Mark -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Carbonnell [mailto:Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 12:05 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll: Late vs. Early Binding I don't know if it is common practice, but I usually write code using early binding, If I am writing for a specific application version, then I leave it as early bound. Otherwise I switch to late binding. You shouldn't have to rewrite any code when switching. All you should have to do is switch your DIMs to objects and derefernce the libraries. You may also have to create your own constants for some of the built in constants from the referenced libraries, but a wholesale rewrite shouldn't be necessary. Right or wrong, this is what works for me. Bryan Carbonnell bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca >>> mitsules_ms at nns.com 09-Apr-03 11:43:13 AM >>> Is it a common practice to first code using early binding, then, after debugging is complete, re-write using late binding? _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Wed Apr 9 11:41:14 2003 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 11:41:14 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Poll: Late vs. Early Binding In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sometimes I take advantage of it, usually when working with something unfamiliar. JB -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 11:16 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Poll: Late vs. Early Binding Bryan, Perhaps I could have said re-code rather than re-write, but your response more closely answers the question I was NOT asking, which was... Do the members of this group utilize the IDE advantages of early binding whenever possible while coding or is the expertise at a level where the advantages are negligible. Thank you, Mark -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Carbonnell [mailto:Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 12:05 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll: Late vs. Early Binding I don't know if it is common practice, but I usually write code using early binding, If I am writing for a specific application version, then I leave it as early bound. Otherwise I switch to late binding. You shouldn't have to rewrite any code when switching. All you should have to do is switch your DIMs to objects and derefernce the libraries. You may also have to create your own constants for some of the built in constants from the referenced libraries, but a wholesale rewrite shouldn't be necessary. Right or wrong, this is what works for me. Bryan Carbonnell bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca >>> mitsules_ms at nns.com 09-Apr-03 11:43:13 AM >>> Is it a common practice to first code using early binding, then, after debugging is complete, re-write using late binding? _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Wed Apr 9 11:29:58 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 09:29:58 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Poll: Late vs. Early Binding Message-ID: Sometimes late binding is necessary to handle possible reference problems, but it's always easier to write code using early binding, regardless of your level of expertise. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Mitsules, Mark [mailto:mitsules_ms at nns.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 8:16 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Poll: Late vs. Early Binding Bryan, Perhaps I could have said re-code rather than re-write, but your response more closely answers the question I was NOT asking, which was... Do the members of this group utilize the IDE advantages of early binding whenever possible while coding or is the expertise at a level where the advantages are negligible. Thank you, Mark -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Carbonnell [mailto:Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 12:05 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll: Late vs. Early Binding I don't know if it is common practice, but I usually write code using early binding, If I am writing for a specific application version, then I leave it as early bound. Otherwise I switch to late binding. You shouldn't have to rewrite any code when switching. All you should have to do is switch your DIMs to objects and derefernce the libraries. You may also have to create your own constants for some of the built in constants from the referenced libraries, but a wholesale rewrite shouldn't be necessary. Right or wrong, this is what works for me. Bryan Carbonnell bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca >>> mitsules_ms at nns.com 09-Apr-03 11:43:13 AM >>> Is it a common practice to first code using early binding, then, after debugging is complete, re-write using late binding? _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca Wed Apr 9 11:53:51 2003 From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 12:53:51 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Poll: Late vs. Early Binding Message-ID: In that case, :-)) Absolutely. Use the IDE to give you all the help it can. I'm fairly comfortable with the Word object model (even more comfortable than the Access object model), but I still use early binding for development. Bryan Carbonnell bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca >>> mitsules_ms at nns.com 09-Apr-03 12:15:32 PM >>> Bryan, Perhaps I could have said re-code rather than re-write, but your response more closely answers the question I was NOT asking, which was... Do the members of this group utilize the IDE advantages of early binding whenever possible while coding or is the expertise at a level where the advantages are negligible. From jimdettman at earthlink.net Wed Apr 9 11:58:23 2003 From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 12:58:23 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Poll: Late vs. Early Binding In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Not only that, but there is the performance penalty with using late binding as well. Jim Dettman President, Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc. (315) 699-3443 jimdettman at earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 12:30 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Poll: Late vs. Early Binding Sometimes late binding is necessary to handle possible reference problems, but it's always easier to write code using early binding, regardless of your level of expertise. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Mitsules, Mark [mailto:mitsules_ms at nns.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 8:16 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Poll: Late vs. Early Binding Bryan, Perhaps I could have said re-code rather than re-write, but your response more closely answers the question I was NOT asking, which was... Do the members of this group utilize the IDE advantages of early binding whenever possible while coding or is the expertise at a level where the advantages are negligible. Thank you, Mark -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Carbonnell [mailto:Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 12:05 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll: Late vs. Early Binding I don't know if it is common practice, but I usually write code using early binding, If I am writing for a specific application version, then I leave it as early bound. Otherwise I switch to late binding. You shouldn't have to rewrite any code when switching. All you should have to do is switch your DIMs to objects and derefernce the libraries. You may also have to create your own constants for some of the built in constants from the referenced libraries, but a wholesale rewrite shouldn't be necessary. Right or wrong, this is what works for me. Bryan Carbonnell bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca >>> mitsules_ms at nns.com 09-Apr-03 11:43:13 AM >>> Is it a common practice to first code using early binding, then, after debugging is complete, re-write using late binding? _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From chris at denverdb.com Wed Apr 9 12:00:09 2003 From: chris at denverdb.com (Chris Mackin) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 11:00:09 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Poll: Late vs. Early Binding In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You can always use Compiler Directives and write code that is either early or late binding. For instance I almost always have a Compiler Constant named Dev in all my applications. Then in the code for early vs. late binding I have something like: #IF Dev = 1 Then Dim appXL as Excel.Application #Else Dim appXL as Object #End IF This is a simple example that demonstrates the power of the Compiler Directive, depending on how the Dev constant is set, it will only compile that part of the code, so you can set it up so that while Dev = 1 you use Early binding with all of it's benefits, and when you get ready to deploy setting Dev = 0 changes it to Late Binding Chris Mackin www.denverdb.com Denver Database Consulting, LLC -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 10:30 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Poll: Late vs. Early Binding Sometimes late binding is necessary to handle possible reference problems, but it's always easier to write code using early binding, regardless of your level of expertise. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Mitsules, Mark [mailto:mitsules_ms at nns.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 8:16 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Poll: Late vs. Early Binding Bryan, Perhaps I could have said re-code rather than re-write, but your response more closely answers the question I was NOT asking, which was... Do the members of this group utilize the IDE advantages of early binding whenever possible while coding or is the expertise at a level where the advantages are negligible. Thank you, Mark -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Carbonnell [mailto:Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 12:05 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll: Late vs. Early Binding I don't know if it is common practice, but I usually write code using early binding, If I am writing for a specific application version, then I leave it as early bound. Otherwise I switch to late binding. You shouldn't have to rewrite any code when switching. All you should have to do is switch your DIMs to objects and derefernce the libraries. You may also have to create your own constants for some of the built in constants from the referenced libraries, but a wholesale rewrite shouldn't be necessary. Right or wrong, this is what works for me. Bryan Carbonnell bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca >>> mitsules_ms at nns.com 09-Apr-03 11:43:13 AM >>> Is it a common practice to first code using early binding, then, after debugging is complete, re-write using late binding? _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From markH at bitgen.co.uk Wed Apr 9 12:05:37 2003 From: markH at bitgen.co.uk (MarkH) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 18:05:37 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Access XP Meltdowns In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000501c2feba$3e06f250$0100a8c0@netboxxp> I've only been playing with XP for a couple of weeks, but have created both new databases and converted older ones... Have made some really silly mistakes and coded well into the night but so far (touch wood) not one crash. Have even speed tested different methods by looping through code ten thousand times - no problems there either. Good luck Mark PS - Odds on I will have spoken too soon :o( -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: 09 April 2003 16:41 To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Access XP Meltdowns Has anyone else seen frequent meltdowns on XP (SP-2) databases in development? I've seen this on both source safe mdbs and those compacted out of source safe. The original project seems to be ok, but the copy I'm working on goes down in flames. It appears that malformed code can trigger an endless loop of this, and the backup option only perpetuates the damage. I'm seeing this at least once a day on the app I'm working on, and it's driving me nuts because it happens when I'm in the middle of creating new code, which naturally is malformed until it's complete! Aarrrggghhh!!! Charlotte Foust _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.470 / Virus Database: 268 - Release Date: 08/04/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.470 / Virus Database: 268 - Release Date: 08/04/2003 From chris at denverdb.com Wed Apr 9 12:05:13 2003 From: chris at denverdb.com (Chris Mackin) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 11:05:13 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Does anyone know of any code or software that I can use to try and get mileage between 2 zip codes? The situation is this, in an insurance database there is a contractual obligation for my client to report on the number of members of the plan who live within 7 miles of one of the providers of the plan. There are about 250 providers in the Washington DC area and approximately 15,000 members so the more automation I can get in this the better. Thanks, Chris Mackin www.denverdb.com Denver Database Consulting, LLC From artful at rogers.com Wed Apr 9 12:10:32 2003 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 13:10:32 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Access XP Meltdowns In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <05ba01c2feba$edcf1960$8e01a8c0@Rock> Is it an MDB or an ADP? I do almost all my work in ADPs and I haven't noticed this. I have, however, noticed that sometimes it loses track of event code. Click the property sheet and go in, and there's the code, but before you do so the whole event tab is blank. No idea why it does that. On this project I'm not using SourceSafe, so possibly the problem is there, not in Access 2002? -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: April 9, 2003 11:41 AM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Access XP Meltdowns Has anyone else seen frequent meltdowns on XP (SP-2) databases in development? I've seen this on both source safe mdbs and those compacted out of source safe. The original project seems to be ok, but the copy I'm working on goes down in flames. It appears that malformed code can trigger an endless loop of this, and the backup option only perpetuates the damage. I'm seeing this at least once a day on the app I'm working on, and it's driving me nuts because it happens when I'm in the middle of creating new code, which naturally is malformed until it's complete! Aarrrggghhh!!! Charlotte Foust _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mitsules_ms at nns.com Wed Apr 9 12:11:01 2003 From: mitsules_ms at nns.com (Mitsules, Mark) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 13:11:01 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Poll: Late vs. Early Binding Message-ID: Thank you Chris, your method is more elegant than either of my methods. 1. Block comments. 2. "If 1=0 then..." blocks. Mark -----Original Message----- From: Chris Mackin [mailto:chris at denverdb.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 1:00 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Poll: Late vs. Early Binding You can always use Compiler Directives and write code that is either early or late binding. For instance I almost always have a Compiler Constant named Dev in all my applications. Then in the code for early vs. late binding I have something like: #IF Dev = 1 Then Dim appXL as Excel.Application #Else Dim appXL as Object #End IF This is a simple example that demonstrates the power of the Compiler Directive, depending on how the Dev constant is set, it will only compile that part of the code, so you can set it up so that while Dev = 1 you use Early binding with all of it's benefits, and when you get ready to deploy setting Dev = 0 changes it to Late Binding Chris Mackin www.denverdb.com Denver Database Consulting, LLC -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 10:30 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Poll: Late vs. Early Binding Sometimes late binding is necessary to handle possible reference problems, but it's always easier to write code using early binding, regardless of your level of expertise. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Mitsules, Mark [mailto:mitsules_ms at nns.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 8:16 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Poll: Late vs. Early Binding Bryan, Perhaps I could have said re-code rather than re-write, but your response more closely answers the question I was NOT asking, which was... Do the members of this group utilize the IDE advantages of early binding whenever possible while coding or is the expertise at a level where the advantages are negligible. Thank you, Mark -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Carbonnell [mailto:Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 12:05 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll: Late vs. Early Binding I don't know if it is common practice, but I usually write code using early binding, If I am writing for a specific application version, then I leave it as early bound. Otherwise I switch to late binding. You shouldn't have to rewrite any code when switching. All you should have to do is switch your DIMs to objects and derefernce the libraries. You may also have to create your own constants for some of the built in constants from the referenced libraries, but a wholesale rewrite shouldn't be necessary. Right or wrong, this is what works for me. Bryan Carbonnell bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca >>> mitsules_ms at nns.com 09-Apr-03 11:43:13 AM >>> Is it a common practice to first code using early binding, then, after debugging is complete, re-write using late binding? _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com Wed Apr 9 12:12:59 2003 From: jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 13:12:59 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Poll: Late vs. Early Binding In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mark, I use early binding exclusively. the only place where I have experienced problems is in mixed environments, specifically using Outlook which isn't left around with an upgrade. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 12:16 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Poll: Late vs. Early Binding Bryan, Perhaps I could have said re-code rather than re-write, but your response more closely answers the question I was NOT asking, which was... Do the members of this group utilize the IDE advantages of early binding whenever possible while coding or is the expertise at a level where the advantages are negligible. Thank you, Mark -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Carbonnell [mailto:Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 12:05 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll: Late vs. Early Binding I don't know if it is common practice, but I usually write code using early binding, If I am writing for a specific application version, then I leave it as early bound. Otherwise I switch to late binding. You shouldn't have to rewrite any code when switching. All you should have to do is switch your DIMs to objects and derefernce the libraries. You may also have to create your own constants for some of the built in constants from the referenced libraries, but a wholesale rewrite shouldn't be necessary. Right or wrong, this is what works for me. Bryan Carbonnell bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca >>> mitsules_ms at nns.com 09-Apr-03 11:43:13 AM >>> Is it a common practice to first code using early binding, then, after debugging is complete, re-write using late binding? _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ---------------------------------------------------- Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Mitsules, Mark [mailto:mitsules_ms at nns.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 8:16 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Poll: Late vs. Early Binding Bryan, Perhaps I could have said re-code rather than re-write, but your response more closely answers the question I was NOT asking, which was... Do the members of this group utilize the IDE advantages of early binding whenever possible while coding or is the expertise at a level where the advantages are negligible. Thank you, Mark -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Carbonnell [mailto:Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 12:05 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll: Late vs. Early Binding I don't know if it is common practice, but I usually write code using early binding, If I am writing for a specific application version, then I leave it as early bound. Otherwise I switch to late binding. You shouldn't have to rewrite any code when switching. All you should have to do is switch your DIMs to objects and derefernce the libraries. You may also have to create your own constants for some of the built in constants from the referenced libraries, but a wholesale rewrite shouldn't be necessary. Right or wrong, this is what works for me. Bryan Carbonnell bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca >>> mitsules_ms at nns.com 09-Apr-03 11:43:13 AM >>> Is it a common practice to first code using early binding, then, after debugging is complete, re-write using late binding? _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ---------------------------------------------------- Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. 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From scott.marcus at ae.ge.com Wed Apr 9 12:18:04 2003 From: scott.marcus at ae.ge.com (Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting)) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 13:18:04 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes Message-ID: <768A0EA6FF8CB34FA522978966E5D52E559D65@bwam02msx.ae.ge.com> Chris, Where I live, a zipcode can cover more than a 7 mile radius. I live in the Greater Cincinnati area. By no means would you call where I live sparse in population. How would you determine the difference between a zip code any way? It would have to be by address. Maybe you could automate "MapQuest" to get the distance between the office and client. Scott -----Original Message----- From: Chris Mackin [mailto:chris at denverdb.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 1:05 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes Does anyone know of any code or software that I can use to try and get mileage between 2 zip codes? The situation is this, in an insurance database there is a contractual obligation for my client to report on the number of members of the plan who live within 7 miles of one of the providers of the plan. There are about 250 providers in the Washington DC area and approximately 15,000 members so the more automation I can get in this the better. Thanks, Chris Mackin www.denverdb.com Denver Database Consulting, LLC _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From chris at denverdb.com Wed Apr 9 12:20:54 2003 From: chris at denverdb.com (Chris Mackin) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 11:20:54 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Poll: Late vs. Early Binding In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Also it allows you to Dim the same variable twice, which without compiler directives you can't do. So when the app is compiled with Dev = 1, the only part that exists as far as the application is concerned is: Dim appXL as Excel.Application The other part just doesn't exist when the application is compiled. Chris Mackin www.denverdb.com Denver Database Consulting, LLC -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 11:11 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Poll: Late vs. Early Binding Thank you Chris, your method is more elegant than either of my methods. 1. Block comments. 2. "If 1=0 then..." blocks. Mark -----Original Message----- From: Chris Mackin [mailto:chris at denverdb.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 1:00 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Poll: Late vs. Early Binding You can always use Compiler Directives and write code that is either early or late binding. For instance I almost always have a Compiler Constant named Dev in all my applications. Then in the code for early vs. late binding I have something like: #IF Dev = 1 Then Dim appXL as Excel.Application #Else Dim appXL as Object #End IF This is a simple example that demonstrates the power of the Compiler Directive, depending on how the Dev constant is set, it will only compile that part of the code, so you can set it up so that while Dev = 1 you use Early binding with all of it's benefits, and when you get ready to deploy setting Dev = 0 changes it to Late Binding Chris Mackin www.denverdb.com Denver Database Consulting, LLC -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 10:30 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Poll: Late vs. Early Binding Sometimes late binding is necessary to handle possible reference problems, but it's always easier to write code using early binding, regardless of your level of expertise. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Mitsules, Mark [mailto:mitsules_ms at nns.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 8:16 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Poll: Late vs. Early Binding Bryan, Perhaps I could have said re-code rather than re-write, but your response more closely answers the question I was NOT asking, which was... Do the members of this group utilize the IDE advantages of early binding whenever possible while coding or is the expertise at a level where the advantages are negligible. Thank you, Mark -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Carbonnell [mailto:Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 12:05 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll: Late vs. Early Binding I don't know if it is common practice, but I usually write code using early binding, If I am writing for a specific application version, then I leave it as early bound. Otherwise I switch to late binding. You shouldn't have to rewrite any code when switching. All you should have to do is switch your DIMs to objects and derefernce the libraries. You may also have to create your own constants for some of the built in constants from the referenced libraries, but a wholesale rewrite shouldn't be necessary. Right or wrong, this is what works for me. Bryan Carbonnell bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca >>> mitsules_ms at nns.com 09-Apr-03 11:43:13 AM >>> Is it a common practice to first code using early binding, then, after debugging is complete, re-write using late binding? _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Wed Apr 9 12:26:20 2003 From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK (Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 18:26:20 +0100 (BST) Subject: [AccessD] OT Start Office In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1049909180.3e9457bc77efa@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Anyone had a look at Star Office BEta 6.1 Interested in views on this comparing it to Office XP or for those on the beta Office 2003. Martin From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 9 12:29:24 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 13:29:24 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Access XP Meltdowns References: Message-ID: <001a01c2febd$90bc0370$6101a8c0@amd2k512> Charlotte ...been using AXP for a long while now in a variety of environments with nothing like you describe ...but I'm an independent and don't use SourceSafe so you might want to take a look there ...HTH :) William Hindman "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlotte Foust" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 11:40 AM Subject: [AccessD] Access XP Meltdowns > Has anyone else seen frequent meltdowns on XP (SP-2) databases in > development? I've seen this on both source safe mdbs and those > compacted out of source safe. The original project seems to be ok, but > the copy I'm working on goes down in flames. It appears that malformed > code can trigger an endless loop of this, and the backup option only > perpetuates the damage. I'm seeing this at least once a day on the app > I'm working on, and it's driving me nuts because it happens when I'm in > the middle of creating new code, which naturally is malformed until it's > complete! Aarrrggghhh!!! > > Charlotte Foust > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From chris at denverdb.com Wed Apr 9 12:28:55 2003 From: chris at denverdb.com (Chris Mackin) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 11:28:55 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes In-Reply-To: <768A0EA6FF8CB34FA522978966E5D52E559D65@bwam02msx.ae.ge.com> Message-ID: Scott, In DC there are no zip codes that are very large so using it as an approximation is an acceptable method and was specified by the contract, I just need to know if there's an automated way to do it. If I can get access to a system that uses the full address then that would be even better, but it doesn't need to be that percise. Chris Mackin www.denverdb.com Denver Database Consulting, LLC -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting) Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 11:18 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes Chris, Where I live, a zipcode can cover more than a 7 mile radius. I live in the Greater Cincinnati area. By no means would you call where I live sparse in population. How would you determine the difference between a zip code any way? It would have to be by address. Maybe you could automate "MapQuest" to get the distance between the office and client. Scott -----Original Message----- From: Chris Mackin [mailto:chris at denverdb.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 1:05 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes Does anyone know of any code or software that I can use to try and get mileage between 2 zip codes? The situation is this, in an insurance database there is a contractual obligation for my client to report on the number of members of the plan who live within 7 miles of one of the providers of the plan. There are about 250 providers in the Washington DC area and approximately 15,000 members so the more automation I can get in this the better. Thanks, Chris Mackin www.denverdb.com Denver Database Consulting, LLC _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Wed Apr 9 12:28:00 2003 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 18:28:00 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <013001c2febd$5e5814a0$b274d0d5@andypc> Well at least yyyymmdd makes some kind of sense. It follows the principle of any numbering system in having the higher order numbers to the left, working down to lower order to the right. And the UK version does at least do the same in reverse. I've never understood the logic of the US format (ducks). Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Wortz, Charles Sent: 09 April 2003 16:34 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh And we could cut traffic on this list by 10% or more if everybody would adopt the international date format of yyyymmdd instead of trying to use the obsolete date formats of mmddyy and ddmmyy. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 09 10:22 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh You should have a surcharge, not a discount! It's all your fault that US developers have to deal with internationalization issues in their application! Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. [mailto:SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 4:36 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh I am amazed that that 'feature' hasn't bitten me before. Shouldn't we non US developers get a discount? (grin) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From scott.marcus at ae.ge.com Wed Apr 9 12:34:44 2003 From: scott.marcus at ae.ge.com (Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting)) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 13:34:44 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes Message-ID: <768A0EA6FF8CB34FA522978966E5D52E559D66@bwam02msx.ae.ge.com> So 2 zip codes next to each other are zero miles appart but could total more than 7 miles. Even worse, 3 zipcodes could touch each other and each be zero miles appart. I think address is gonna be the only way. Scott -----Original Message----- From: Chris Mackin [mailto:chris at denverdb.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 1:29 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes Scott, In DC there are no zip codes that are very large so using it as an approximation is an acceptable method and was specified by the contract, I just need to know if there's an automated way to do it. If I can get access to a system that uses the full address then that would be even better, but it doesn't need to be that percise. Chris Mackin www.denverdb.com Denver Database Consulting, LLC -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting) Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 11:18 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes Chris, Where I live, a zipcode can cover more than a 7 mile radius. I live in the Greater Cincinnati area. By no means would you call where I live sparse in population. How would you determine the difference between a zip code any way? It would have to be by address. Maybe you could automate "MapQuest" to get the distance between the office and client. Scott -----Original Message----- From: Chris Mackin [mailto:chris at denverdb.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 1:05 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes Does anyone know of any code or software that I can use to try and get mileage between 2 zip codes? The situation is this, in an insurance database there is a contractual obligation for my client to report on the number of members of the plan who live within 7 miles of one of the providers of the plan. There are about 250 providers in the Washington DC area and approximately 15,000 members so the more automation I can get in this the better. Thanks, Chris Mackin www.denverdb.com Denver Database Consulting, LLC _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 9 12:40:55 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 13:40:55 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes References: Message-ID: <003c01c2febf$2caae0c0$6101a8c0@amd2k512> Chris ...there is a commercial AxtiveX component that gives you the mileage between two zips. http://www.scribblesoftware.com/zipratex.mv William Hindman "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Mackin" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 1:28 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes > Scott, > > In DC there are no zip codes that are very large so using it as an > approximation is an acceptable method and was specified by the contract, I > just need to know if there's an automated way to do it. If I can get access > to a system that uses the full address then that would be even better, but > it doesn't need to be that percise. > > Chris Mackin > www.denverdb.com > Denver Database Consulting, LLC > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Marcus, Scott > (GEAE, RHI Consulting) > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 11:18 AM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes > > > Chris, > > Where I live, a zipcode can cover more than a 7 mile radius. I live in the > Greater Cincinnati area. By no means would you call where I live sparse in > population. How would you determine the difference between a zip code any > way? > It would have to be by address. Maybe you could automate "MapQuest" to get > the > distance between the office and client. > > Scott > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Mackin [mailto:chris at denverdb.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 1:05 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes > > > Does anyone know of any code or software that I can use to try and get > mileage between 2 zip codes? The situation is this, in an insurance > database there is a contractual obligation for my client to report on the > number of members of the plan who live within 7 miles of one of the > providers of the plan. There are about 250 providers in the Washington DC > area and approximately 15,000 members so the more automation I can get in > this the better. > > Thanks, > Chris Mackin > www.denverdb.com > Denver Database Consulting, LLC > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com Wed Apr 9 13:44:06 2003 From: mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com (Mark Whittinghill) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 12:44:06 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Access crashing on Citrix Message-ID: <028701c2fec8$00351bb0$0300000a@PASCAL> Hi all, We have a client who is using an Access 2000 db on Citrix. The Citrix environment is NT 4, Service pack 6A. I don't understand all the specifics, but the hoster has two load balanced servers, I'll call A and B. The last couple months, we have been seeing people unable to open Access, usually in the afternoon. 1. All access apps are affected, not just ours. A message will come up saying that the file can't be found. Again, I don't know all the specifics, but the way the hoster installs Access it is like all users are sharing a copy of the Access program. When one user's Access crashes, all do. We haven't yet been able to determine the point of the failure. 2. If Access crashes on server A, the user can be switched to server B and work fine. Also, if server A's Access isn't working, the user can try logging in and out of Citrix until they log into server B, which will be working. All users on Server A will need to leave Access to get Access working again on server A. Sometimes this is the case for server B. 3. No one we know of has seen Access just fail as they were using it. It has either been the user unable to log on, or leaving the app open for a while, and coming back and finding it not working. 4. The Citrix environment has been set to disconnect a user after 4 hours of inactivity, and to log them out after 10 more minutes. 5. This app has been hosted for a couple years, but we have been seeing this problem only in the last few months. This coincides with an increase in the number of users. There may be as many as 20 at one time. I don't think number of users is the problem. I suspect that there is a problem when someone leaves the app open for a while. We aren't getting db corruption, just Access failure. I was talking to the tech at the hoster, and we don't think the problem is tied to someone being kicked out after 4 hours, but we're not sure. Any advice? TIA Mark Whittinghill Symphony Information Services 612-333-1311 mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com From jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com Wed Apr 9 12:45:33 2003 From: jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com (jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 12:45:33 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes Message-ID: Only 7? Ours is somewhere around 12 miles. "Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting)" Sent by: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 04/09/2003 12:18 PM Please respond to accessd To: "'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'" cc: Subject: RE: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes Chris, Where I live, a zipcode can cover more than a 7 mile radius. I live in the Greater Cincinnati area. By no means would you call where I live sparse in population. How would you determine the difference between a zip code any way? It would have to be by address. Maybe you could automate "MapQuest" to get the distance between the office and client. Scott -----Original Message----- From: Chris Mackin [mailto:chris at denverdb.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 1:05 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes Does anyone know of any code or software that I can use to try and get mileage between 2 zip codes? The situation is this, in an insurance database there is a contractual obligation for my client to report on the number of members of the plan who live within 7 miles of one of the providers of the plan. There are about 250 providers in the Washington DC area and approximately 15,000 members so the more automation I can get in this the better. Thanks, Chris Mackin www.denverdb.com Denver Database Consulting, LLC _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chris at denverdb.com Wed Apr 9 12:44:45 2003 From: chris at denverdb.com (Chris Mackin) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 11:44:45 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes In-Reply-To: <003c01c2febf$2caae0c0$6101a8c0@amd2k512> Message-ID: William, Thank you very much, appreciate it. Chris Mackin www.denverdb.com Denver Database Consulting, LLC -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of William Hindman Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 11:41 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes Chris ...there is a commercial AxtiveX component that gives you the mileage between two zips. http://www.scribblesoftware.com/zipratex.mv William Hindman "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Mackin" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 1:28 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes > Scott, > > In DC there are no zip codes that are very large so using it as an > approximation is an acceptable method and was specified by the contract, I > just need to know if there's an automated way to do it. If I can get access > to a system that uses the full address then that would be even better, but > it doesn't need to be that percise. > > Chris Mackin > www.denverdb.com > Denver Database Consulting, LLC > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Marcus, Scott > (GEAE, RHI Consulting) > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 11:18 AM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes > > > Chris, > > Where I live, a zipcode can cover more than a 7 mile radius. I live in the > Greater Cincinnati area. By no means would you call where I live sparse in > population. How would you determine the difference between a zip code any > way? > It would have to be by address. Maybe you could automate "MapQuest" to get > the > distance between the office and client. > > Scott > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Mackin [mailto:chris at denverdb.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 1:05 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes > > > Does anyone know of any code or software that I can use to try and get > mileage between 2 zip codes? The situation is this, in an insurance > database there is a contractual obligation for my client to report on the > number of members of the plan who live within 7 miles of one of the > providers of the plan. There are about 250 providers in the Washington DC > area and approximately 15,000 members so the more automation I can get in > this the better. > > Thanks, > Chris Mackin > www.denverdb.com > Denver Database Consulting, LLC > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us Wed Apr 9 12:45:34 2003 From: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us (Tesiny, Ed) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 13:45:34 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes Message-ID: Chris, Take a look at www.zipfind.net Ed Tesiny EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us -----Original Message----- From: Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting) [mailto:scott.marcus at ae.ge.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 1:35 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes So 2 zip codes next to each other are zero miles appart but could total more than 7 miles. Even worse, 3 zipcodes could touch each other and each be zero miles appart. I think address is gonna be the only way. Scott -----Original Message----- From: Chris Mackin [mailto:chris at denverdb.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 1:29 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes Scott, In DC there are no zip codes that are very large so using it as an approximation is an acceptable method and was specified by the contract, I just need to know if there's an automated way to do it. If I can get access to a system that uses the full address then that would be even better, but it doesn't need to be that percise. Chris Mackin www.denverdb.com Denver Database Consulting, LLC -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting) Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 11:18 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes Chris, Where I live, a zipcode can cover more than a 7 mile radius. I live in the Greater Cincinnati area. By no means would you call where I live sparse in population. How would you determine the difference between a zip code any way? It would have to be by address. Maybe you could automate "MapQuest" to get the distance between the office and client. Scott -----Original Message----- From: Chris Mackin [mailto:chris at denverdb.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 1:05 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes Does anyone know of any code or software that I can use to try and get mileage between 2 zip codes? The situation is this, in an insurance database there is a contractual obligation for my client to report on the number of members of the plan who live within 7 miles of one of the providers of the plan. There are about 250 providers in the Washington DC area and approximately 15,000 members so the more automation I can get in this the better. Thanks, Chris Mackin www.denverdb.com Denver Database Consulting, LLC _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mitsules_ms at nns.com Wed Apr 9 12:47:10 2003 From: mitsules_ms at nns.com (Mitsules, Mark) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 13:47:10 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes Message-ID: Chris, A Google search provided this "Sponsored Link". www.zipcodedownload.com Mark -----Original Message----- From: Chris Mackin [mailto:chris at denverdb.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 1:05 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes Does anyone know of any code or software that I can use to try and get mileage between 2 zip codes? The situation is this, in an insurance database there is a contractual obligation for my client to report on the number of members of the plan who live within 7 miles of one of the providers of the plan. There are about 250 providers in the Washington DC area and approximately 15,000 members so the more automation I can get in this the better. Thanks, Chris Mackin www.denverdb.com Denver Database Consulting, LLC _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 9 12:51:35 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 13:51:35 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes References: <768A0EA6FF8CB34FA522978966E5D52E559D66@bwam02msx.ae.ge.com> Message-ID: <004b01c2fec0$a9a25800$6101a8c0@amd2k512> Scott ...not quite, 5 digit zips are assigned to the main post offices within a zip ...mileage is calculated between the po's, not the area boundaries ...but its still full of errors when you are concerned about actual mileage rather than proximate ...in the only app I use zip/mileage calculations in, a difference of a few miles isn't a concern whereas it would appear to be in Chris's application ...except that his contract allows for exactly that type of error by specifying the use of zip codes ...moving up to the next step ...routing software door to door mileage calculations is tremendously more costly and is actually subject to more variables since the opening of a new road could easily change the mileage calculations considerably ...take your pick of poison ...in Chris's case, I'd stick with zips. William Hindman "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting)" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 1:34 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes > So 2 zip codes next to each other are zero miles appart but could total more > than 7 miles. Even worse, 3 zipcodes could touch each other and each be zero > miles appart. I think address is gonna be the only way. > > Scott > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Mackin [mailto:chris at denverdb.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 1:29 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes > > > Scott, > > In DC there are no zip codes that are very large so using it as an > approximation is an acceptable method and was specified by the contract, I > just need to know if there's an automated way to do it. If I can get access > to a system that uses the full address then that would be even better, but > it doesn't need to be that percise. > > Chris Mackin > www.denverdb.com > Denver Database Consulting, LLC > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Marcus, Scott > (GEAE, RHI Consulting) > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 11:18 AM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes > > > Chris, > > Where I live, a zipcode can cover more than a 7 mile radius. I live in the > Greater Cincinnati area. By no means would you call where I live sparse in > population. How would you determine the difference between a zip code any > way? > It would have to be by address. Maybe you could automate "MapQuest" to get > the > distance between the office and client. > > Scott > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Mackin [mailto:chris at denverdb.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 1:05 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes > > > Does anyone know of any code or software that I can use to try and get > mileage between 2 zip codes? The situation is this, in an insurance > database there is a contractual obligation for my client to report on the > number of members of the plan who live within 7 miles of one of the > providers of the plan. There are about 250 providers in the Washington DC > area and approximately 15,000 members so the more automation I can get in > this the better. > > Thanks, > Chris Mackin > www.denverdb.com > Denver Database Consulting, LLC > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Wed Apr 9 12:59:52 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 12:59:52 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Access XP Meltdowns Message-ID: Charlotte, I have to agree with William, in that we have been using A02 for some time now without any problems. We quit using VisualSourceSafe for new projects because we were having too many problems with it. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 09 12:29 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access XP Meltdowns Charlotte ...been using AXP for a long while now in a variety of environments with nothing like you describe ...but I'm an independent and don't use SourceSafe so you might want to take a look there ...HTH :) William Hindman "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlotte Foust" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 11:40 AM Subject: [AccessD] Access XP Meltdowns > Has anyone else seen frequent meltdowns on XP (SP-2) databases in > development? I've seen this on both source safe mdbs and those > compacted out of source safe. The original project seems to be ok, > but the copy I'm working on goes down in flames. It appears that > malformed code can trigger an endless loop of this, and the backup > option only perpetuates the damage. I'm seeing this at least once a > day on the app I'm working on, and it's driving me nuts because it > happens when I'm in the middle of creating new code, which naturally > is malformed until it's complete! Aarrrggghhh!!! > > Charlotte Foust From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Wed Apr 9 13:08:59 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 13:08:59 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh Message-ID: Andy, You want logic? You sure ask for a lot! If you wanted a logical dating system, then you would be pushing for something like all months being 30 days long with a four or five day holiday at the end/beginning of the year and the names of the months matching their month numbers. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 09 12:28 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh Well at least yyyymmdd makes some kind of sense. It follows the principle of any numbering system in having the higher order numbers to the left, working down to lower order to the right. And the UK version does at least do the same in reverse. I've never understood the logic of the US format (ducks). Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Wortz, Charles Sent: 09 April 2003 16:34 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh And we could cut traffic on this list by 10% or more if everybody would adopt the international date format of yyyymmdd instead of trying to use the obsolete date formats of mmddyy and ddmmyy. Charles Wortz From gustav at cactus.dk Wed Apr 9 13:09:33 2003 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 20:09:33 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Access crashing on Citrix In-Reply-To: <028701c2fec8$00351bb0$0300000a@PASCAL> References: <028701c2fec8$00351bb0$0300000a@PASCAL> Message-ID: <7540788390.20030409200933@cactus.dk> Hi Mark Have you tried write-protecting the application file or running it off a directory where the users have read-only rights only? This, of course, requires that your app doesn't write to itself by, say, creating temporary queries. /gustav > We have a client who is using an Access 2000 db on Citrix. The Citrix > environment is NT 4, Service pack 6A. I don't understand all the specifics, > but the hoster has two load balanced servers, I'll call A and B. The last > couple months, we have been seeing people unable to open Access, usually in > the afternoon. > 1. All access apps are affected, not just ours. A message will come up > saying that the file can't be found. Again, I don't know all the specifics, > but the way the hoster installs Access it is like all users are sharing a > copy of the Access program. When one user's Access crashes, all do. We > haven't yet been able to determine the point of the failure. From scott.marcus at ae.ge.com Wed Apr 9 13:10:03 2003 From: scott.marcus at ae.ge.com (Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting)) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 14:10:03 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes Message-ID: <768A0EA6FF8CB34FA522978966E5D52E559D67@bwam02msx.ae.ge.com> William, Thanks for the explanation. I think this site could get you a pretty accurate distance... http://www.melissadata.com/AddressObject/addressobject.htm Scott -----Original Message----- From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 1:52 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes Scott ...not quite, 5 digit zips are assigned to the main post offices within a zip ...mileage is calculated between the po's, not the area boundaries ...but its still full of errors when you are concerned about actual mileage rather than proximate ...in the only app I use zip/mileage calculations in, a difference of a few miles isn't a concern whereas it would appear to be in Chris's application ...except that his contract allows for exactly that type of error by specifying the use of zip codes ...moving up to the next step ...routing software door to door mileage calculations is tremendously more costly and is actually subject to more variables since the opening of a new road could easily change the mileage calculations considerably ...take your pick of poison ...in Chris's case, I'd stick with zips. William Hindman "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting)" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 1:34 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes > So 2 zip codes next to each other are zero miles appart but could total more > than 7 miles. Even worse, 3 zipcodes could touch each other and each be zero > miles appart. I think address is gonna be the only way. > > Scott > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Mackin [mailto:chris at denverdb.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 1:29 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes > > > Scott, > > In DC there are no zip codes that are very large so using it as an > approximation is an acceptable method and was specified by the contract, I > just need to know if there's an automated way to do it. If I can get access > to a system that uses the full address then that would be even better, but > it doesn't need to be that percise. > > Chris Mackin > www.denverdb.com > Denver Database Consulting, LLC > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Marcus, Scott > (GEAE, RHI Consulting) > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 11:18 AM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes > > > Chris, > > Where I live, a zipcode can cover more than a 7 mile radius. I live in the > Greater Cincinnati area. By no means would you call where I live sparse in > population. How would you determine the difference between a zip code any > way? > It would have to be by address. Maybe you could automate "MapQuest" to get > the > distance between the office and client. > > Scott > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Mackin [mailto:chris at denverdb.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 1:05 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes > > > Does anyone know of any code or software that I can use to try and get > mileage between 2 zip codes? The situation is this, in an insurance > database there is a contractual obligation for my client to report on the > number of members of the plan who live within 7 miles of one of the > providers of the plan. There are about 250 providers in the Washington DC > area and approximately 15,000 members so the more automation I can get in > this the better. > > Thanks, > Chris Mackin > www.denverdb.com > Denver Database Consulting, LLC > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From sgsax at ksu.edu Wed Apr 9 13:25:47 2003 From: sgsax at ksu.edu (Seth Galitzer) Date: 09 Apr 2003 13:25:47 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT Start Office In-Reply-To: <1049909180.3e9457bc77efa@hosea.qub.ac.uk> References: <1049909180.3e9457bc77efa@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1049912749.26548.50.camel@sgsax-th4022c> Martin, I've been using Star Office 6.0, both on Windows and Linux for the last several months. Overall, I've been very happy with it. The word processor imports and exports Word docs flawlessly and transparently. I haven't tried importing/exporting any really complicated files, but it appears to work pretty well with the ones I have tried. The spreadsheet is fairly easy to work with, but has some subtle differences from Excel. No real show-stoppers, though. It (the spreadsheet) does have less-powerful graphing (charting) capabilities than Excel. The presentation software is also pretty full-featured and imports PowerPoint files without a hitch. I have done some complex slide shows that transferred back and forth without trouble. I have not sat down to take a good look at the database app (Adabase), but it looks like it's more in the vein of Paradox or FoxBase than Access. I have no idea what its import/export capabilities are like. There is a drawing/graphics editing tool, but I have yet to use it. There is no email/calendar/task list/contact app a la Outlook. For those who like the Office Shortcut Bar (like myself), there is also no comparable tool included with SO. Probably the most significant shortcoming with the suite is that there is no "Record Macro" functionality. SO does have macro and VB-like capability, but you have to know how to write the code yourself. For people in this forum, that probably wouldn't be such a difficult thing, but the documentation is very poor. When I went to look for info on why there was no Record Macro feature, what I found was that the developers for OpenOffice (StarOffice's open-source sibling) decided that with the new version, their object model had completely changed and so a Record Macro feature would need to be re-written from the ground up. In an effort to get the product out the door, they simply dropped the feature altogether. I think this is a pretty weak excuse and hope they reconsider for the forthcoming new version. I have found the Windows version to be fairly stable, no major crashes or the like. It has a "background" app which helps the various apps launch faster. The Linux version is a little touchier and has its own printer management tool which you need to run even if you have already set up printers on your system, otherwise SO won't be able to see your printers. The Linux version does not have the background app and so the various apps take a bit longer to open. However, once one of the apps is open, when you open a file for a second app (ie you have the word processor open and you open a spreadsheet) that app opens right up. For everything I do with an Office suite, SO is pretty decent. Some things are easier to do in MS Office apps, especially when you start getting into more complicated documents and spreadsheets. SO can do most of these things, but they are not nearly as easy to get to. Overall, I like SO, warts and all. It's note quite as polished as MS Office, but the core functionality is there. Considering the price tag, you get a helluva lot more than any other "alternative" office suite for your dolar. And for that matter, if you don't need all of the import/export filters that SO includes, you can download and use OpenOffice for free and have the same functionality. For a small business that can't afford MS licensing fees, or even a large business that is concerned about MS licensing practicies and their own compliance, StarOffice and OpenOffice are very viable alternatives. I'm no "power user" when it comes to word processing or spreadsheets, but I have yet to find a feature in Word or Excel that I can't duplicate in StarOffice. As with everything, you own mileage may vary. Seth Disclaimer - I am in no way affliliated with Sun or the OpenOffice development team. I just like the software. On Wed, 2003-04-09 at 12:26, Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK wrote: > Anyone had a look at Star Office BEta 6.1 Interested in views on this > comparing it to Office XP or for those on the beta Office 2003. > > Martin -- Seth Galitzer sgsax at ksu.edu Computing Specialist http://puma.agron.ksu.edu/~sgsax Dept. of Plant Pathology Kansas State University From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Wed Apr 9 13:29:38 2003 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 14:29:38 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] RE:Tag Line of William Hindman Message-ID: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF40389768E@xlivmbx12.aig.com> William, You quote a J.S. Mill comment about war. "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill Is it to justify the present fiasco? To further put down those people who did not agree with the US/UK invading Iraq for the reasons their governments stated? Are you yet another of those who cannot / will not see the difference between supporting our troops and supporting our government? The republican masses and mass media - encouraged by their leaders - continue to perpetuate the false notion that to disagree with the president and the war is to wish harm to our troops - to be unpatriotic - but any plain thinking person who can see beyond the blinkers knows this is simply A LIE to foster discontent come polling time. It's a shame that you use a quote from a philosopher who was writing in the context, and within the shores of the greatest single example of imperial pillage that the world has ever know: the British Empire, who's expansion was in full swing at the time. It is also ironic as Mill was amongst the most radically Liberal politicians of his time. Though never a socialist, he advocated public ownership of natural resources, women's rights, birth control and universal suffrage to mention just a few. None of which appear to be foremost in the minds of the republican administration. There may well be something more ugly thing than 'the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war', it could just be the current USA administration which shows no limit to its hypocrisy. Sorry off the O/T nature of this post, but if we have to read the such out of context remarks in peoples' tag lines I think they need responding to on the main list - at least once! Lambert From Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Wed Apr 9 13:41:58 2003 From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK (Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 19:41:58 +0100 (BST) Subject: [AccessD] OT StartOffice In-Reply-To: <1049912749.26548.50.camel@sgsax-th4022c> References: <1049909180.3e9457bc77efa@hosea.qub.ac.uk> <1049912749.26548.50.camel@sgsax-th4022c> Message-ID: <1049913718.3e946976b3732@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Thanks Seth Just installed it on Win XP Pro. Giving it a look now. Only thing didnt install was the database which is not part of the default set up files and cant find it on sun site. Martin From gustav at cactus.dk Wed Apr 9 13:41:59 2003 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 20:41:59 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Iraq Message-ID: <18242734018.20030409204159@cactus.dk> Hi all I'll promise this will be my only mail on the subject but I happens to both work and live nearby the American embassy. We have quite a few Iraq people living here. Some are "radicals" but most of them are quietly trying to establish a living far away from where they were born. At this moment these quiet people have become visible, driving by the embassy waving flags, singing and celebrating the moment. It's very touching and you can feel and understand their happiness. A great day. /gustav From liz at symphonyinfo.com Wed Apr 9 13:42:29 2003 From: liz at symphonyinfo.com (Liz Doering) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 13:42:29 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Printing in Access 2002 In-Reply-To: <01a101c2fd3e$7cef4350$0300000a@PASCAL> Message-ID: Dear List, We have a client (Bill) who sells a little application to local city governments and comes to us about once a year for tweaks and upgrades. Today he has spent the whole day at one of his cities, trying to get his app to run on their WinXP/Office XP machines. (This app was originally developed in 97 and converted to 2000). Everything is fine except that reports do not run. Hitting the Preview button causes absolutely nothing to happen. I was thinking that this was a problem with the app, or the conversion to Access 2002, but I don't think so now. I had Bill create a completely new .mdb, create one table with four fields: ID, Name, Address, City. The ID field is an autonumber PK, the rest are text. Bill used the report wizard to create one simple report from this table, and received the message that "The wizard is unable to create your report". Creating a report without the wizard produced a little more information, a complaint about a lack of default printer. (I don't have the exact text of the error message, and I can't get it, because Bill has given up for the day and gone home.) We double-checked for a default printer, which there was, but in the hopes of changing something, we deleted all printers and re-installed one, setting that to the default. The printer will act correctly as the default printer for Word, Excel, etc. Rebooting hasn't helped. Nor has a re-install of Access. Does anybody know what is going on here? Thanks so much, Liz Doering Symphony Information Services liz at symphonyinfo.com www.symphonyinfo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The Citrix > > environment is NT 4, Service pack 6A. I don't understand all the specifics, > > but the hoster has two load balanced servers, I'll call A and B. The last > > couple months, we have been seeing people unable to open Access, usually in > > the afternoon. > > > 1. All access apps are affected, not just ours. A message will come up > > saying that the file can't be found. Again, I don't know all the specifics, > > but the way the hoster installs Access it is like all users are sharing a > > copy of the Access program. When one user's Access crashes, all do. We > > haven't yet been able to determine the point of the failure. > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From weeden1949 at hotmail.com Wed Apr 9 13:47:36 2003 From: weeden1949 at hotmail.com (Greg S) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 13:47:36 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: RE:Tag Line of William Hindman References: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF40389768E@xlivmbx12.aig.com> Message-ID: Lambert: So, freedom is a fiasco? Strange way to think. Greg PS: Please pardon my response OT to another OT...I'll cease it now. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heenan, Lambert" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 1:29 PM Subject: [AccessD] RE:Tag Line of William Hindman William, You quote a J.S. Mill comment about war. "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill Is it to justify the present fiasco? To further put down those people who did not agree with the US/UK invading Iraq for the reasons their governments stated? Are you yet another of those who cannot / will not see the difference between supporting our troops and supporting our government? The republican masses and mass media - encouraged by their leaders - continue to perpetuate the false notion that to disagree with the president and the war is to wish harm to our troops - to be unpatriotic - but any plain thinking person who can see beyond the blinkers knows this is simply A LIE to foster discontent come polling time. It's a shame that you use a quote from a philosopher who was writing in the context, and within the shores of the greatest single example of imperial pillage that the world has ever know: the British Empire, who's expansion was in full swing at the time. It is also ironic as Mill was amongst the most radically Liberal politicians of his time. Though never a socialist, he advocated public ownership of natural resources, women's rights, birth control and universal suffrage to mention just a few. None of which appear to be foremost in the minds of the republican administration. There may well be something more ugly thing than 'the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war', it could just be the current USA administration which shows no limit to its hypocrisy. Sorry off the O/T nature of this post, but if we have to read the such out of context remarks in peoples' tag lines I think they need responding to on the main list - at least once! Lambert _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Wed Apr 9 13:54:36 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 13:54:36 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: RE:Tag Line of William Hindman Message-ID: Freedom is not free. Some of those that have only known the benefits of freedom are among the least willing to bear the responsibilities of freedom. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Greg S [mailto:weeden1949 at hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 09 13:48 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: RE:Tag Line of William Hindman Lambert: So, freedom is a fiasco? Strange way to think. Greg PS: Please pardon my response OT to another OT...I'll cease it now. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heenan, Lambert" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 1:29 PM Subject: [AccessD] RE:Tag Line of William Hindman William, You quote a J.S. Mill comment about war. "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill Is it to justify the present fiasco? To further put down those people who did not agree with the US/UK invading Iraq for the reasons their governments stated? Are you yet another of those who cannot / will not see the difference between supporting our troops and supporting our government? The republican masses and mass media - encouraged by their leaders - continue to perpetuate the false notion that to disagree with the president and the war is to wish harm to our troops - to be unpatriotic - but any plain thinking person who can see beyond the blinkers knows this is simply A LIE to foster discontent come polling time. It's a shame that you use a quote from a philosopher who was writing in the context, and within the shores of the greatest single example of imperial pillage that the world has ever know: the British Empire, who's expansion was in full swing at the time. It is also ironic as Mill was amongst the most radically Liberal politicians of his time. Though never a socialist, he advocated public ownership of natural resources, women's rights, birth control and universal suffrage to mention just a few. None of which appear to be foremost in the minds of the republican administration. There may well be something more ugly thing than 'the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war', it could just be the current USA administration which shows no limit to its hypocrisy. Sorry off the O/T nature of this post, but if we have to read the such out of context remarks in peoples' tag lines I think they need responding to on the main list - at least once! Lambert From jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com Wed Apr 9 13:57:38 2003 From: jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com (jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 13:57:38 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Printing in Access 2002 Message-ID: Can you print/preview a table by itself? "Liz Doering" Sent by: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 04/09/2003 01:42 PM Please respond to accessd To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com cc: Subject: [AccessD] Printing in Access 2002 Dear List, We have a client (Bill) who sells a little application to local city governments and comes to us about once a year for tweaks and upgrades. Today he has spent the whole day at one of his cities, trying to get his app to run on their WinXP/Office XP machines. (This app was originally developed in 97 and converted to 2000). Everything is fine except that reports do not run. Hitting the Preview button causes absolutely nothing to happen. I was thinking that this was a problem with the app, or the conversion to Access 2002, but I don't think so now. I had Bill create a completely new .mdb, create one table with four fields: ID, Name, Address, City. The ID field is an autonumber PK, the rest are text. Bill used the report wizard to create one simple report from this table, and received the message that "The wizard is unable to create your report". Creating a report without the wizard produced a little more information, a complaint about a lack of default printer. (I don't have the exact text of the error message, and I can't get it, because Bill has given up for the day and gone home.) We double-checked for a default printer, which there was, but in the hopes of changing something, we deleted all printers and re-installed one, setting that to the default. The printer will act correctly as the default printer for Word, Excel, etc. Rebooting hasn't helped. Nor has a re-install of Access. Does anybody know what is going on here? Thanks so much, Liz Doering Symphony Information Services liz at symphonyinfo.com www.symphonyinfo.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john at winhaven.net Wed Apr 9 14:11:58 2003 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 14:11:58 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] RE:Tag Line of William Hindman In-Reply-To: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF40389768E@xlivmbx12.aig.com> Message-ID: Lately, I my mailbox has been deluged with pro-war/anti-war propaganda (including people's sigs). Whether you're for the war or against it, just remember, there's a little bit of truth in anyone's propaganda - that's why so many people will believe it. I have served four years in front line combat units. (101st Airborne Div and 2nd Armored Div(FWD.) I defended everyone's right to disagree with me and their govt. I don't like to see people saying support the govt. or leave - that's not democracy. I don't like to see anti-war protests get violent or break the law, that's not being a pacifist. My younger brother is still serving in the armed forces. In fact, he had just returned from Afghanistan last week. Yes our soldiers are still fighting in Afghanistan too! Or did everyone forget about that because its not on the 5:00 news every night? He became ill during his last week there and is still ill. The best we can figure is that when the Soviets occupied Afghanistan in the 80s they doused the entire region with chemicals to kill the vegetation so the local partisans could not hide there. Where he was based there still wasn't any sign of vegetation. Previous to the 80s it was a wooded area. I suppose the chemical residue coul dmake a person sick. I have seen the effects of war and I don't believe war will ever bring lasting peace. Yet I also see that we have allowed a horrible situation to develop in Iraq. We didn't get involved in WWII because of the concentration camps - we didn't even know about them. We do know about Iraq's govt. abuses to humanity. On the face of it: France Germany and Russia take the moral high ground. Behind the scenes: France and Russian both have huge trade contracts with Iraq - hence they're against it not for moral reasons but for monetary reasons - much the same reason the US govt. is for it. They both had as much or more to do as the U.S. did with the rise of Saddam Hussien in the first place. They however allow their monetary reasons outweigh their morality. The govt. of Germany seems to hold the moral high ground in this case. Some in the USA think we did a good job over the last 50 years turning the most aggressive people in the world into pacifists. However, they are still recovering from absorbing communist Germany into their economy. And they too have large business dealin gin Iraq. Basically they can't AFFORD to support this war, monetarily or politically. These countries all supported the economic blockade of Iraq which, of course never hurts the dictator or the (contracts he provides) but really decimates the common and poor people of the land. If they were such moral govts. they would have never allowed these blockades to go on this long. France and Germany were both delivered from a ruthless dictarship with outside help. I would hope the people of those countries aren't as calous to Iraq's needing freedom as their govt. is. On the face of it: US and UK want to remove a dictator who has no regard for life and can threaten the world with weapons of mass destruction by supplying terrorists with them, much in the same way that he supports human bombs in Israel with cash rewards. This I support. Behind the scenes: There are many aspects of why our elected govt. supports this war besides the publicly spoken reasons. A few: The U.S. supported Sadam Hussien's political party in order to replace the Soviet Union's puppet dictator there. They also supported Saddam directly when he was at war with Iran. (Among other mistakes.) They are trying to clean up their mess. Just like they did in Panama and so many other places. Yet they continue to get into this type of "mess" in other countries by supporting the "worse of two evils". The U.S. needs Iraq for a political presence in the mid-east besides the locally hated Israel and the insignificant state of Jordan. Do we want their oil, sure. Do we need it, I don't think so. I wish our govt. leaders stop choosing the worse of two evils Given all that, I absolutely, without a doubt support our soldiers. They have a duty to respond to the publicly elected official's orders. Nothing worse can happen to a country than to have the military disregard the elected officials. This would put the military in control of that country and no matter what the public facade, the country would then be a "military state". The proper way to prevent our country from going to war is not by disregarding our soldier's duty as honorable but by voting and being involved before things happens. From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Wed Apr 9 14:02:40 2003 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 20:02:40 +0100 Subject: Stop Now - RE: [AccessD] OT: RE:Tag Line of William Hindman In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001101c2feca$97dd3220$b274d0d5@andypc> Please stop this thread now. I'm not going to say how I feel on this subject because this list is a totally inappropriate forum to do so. We have an OT list. Please go there to continue if you wish. This is the kind of topic on which people have strongly held views, and because of that it could cause severe distress and disruption here. Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Wortz, Charles > Sent: 09 April 2003 19:55 > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: RE:Tag Line of William Hindman > > > > Freedom is not free. Some of those that have only known the > benefits of freedom are among the least willing to bear the > responsibilities of freedom. > > Charles Wortz > Software Development Division > Texas Education Agency > 1701 N. Congress Ave > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > 512-463-9493 > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg S [mailto:weeden1949 at hotmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 09 13:48 > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: RE:Tag Line of William Hindman > > Lambert: > > So, freedom is a fiasco? Strange way to think. > > Greg > > PS: Please pardon my response OT to another OT...I'll cease > it now. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Heenan, Lambert" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 1:29 PM > Subject: [AccessD] RE:Tag Line of William Hindman > > > William, > > You quote a J.S. Mill comment about war. > > "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the > decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings > which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man > who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing > which is more important than his own personal safety, is a > miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless > made and kept so by the exertions of better men than > himself." John Stuart Mill > > Is it to justify the present fiasco? To further put down > those people who did not agree with the US/UK invading Iraq > for the reasons their governments stated? Are you yet another > of those who cannot / will not see the difference between > supporting our troops and supporting our government? The > republican masses and mass media - encouraged by their > leaders - continue to perpetuate the false notion that to > disagree with the president and the war is to wish harm to > our troops - to be unpatriotic - but any plain thinking > person who can see beyond the blinkers knows this is simply A > LIE to foster discontent come polling time. > > It's a shame that you use a quote from a philosopher who was > writing in the context, and within the shores of the greatest > single example of imperial pillage that the world has ever > know: the British Empire, who's expansion was in full swing > at the time. It is also ironic as Mill was amongst the most > radically Liberal politicians of his time. Though never a > socialist, he advocated public ownership of natural > resources, women's rights, birth control and universal > suffrage to mention just a few. None of which appear to be > foremost in the minds of the republican administration. There > may well be something more ugly thing than 'the decayed and > degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks > that nothing is worth war', it could just be the current USA > administration which shows no limit to its hypocrisy. > > Sorry off the O/T nature of this post, but if we have to read > the such out of context remarks in peoples' tag lines I think > they need responding to on the main list - at least once! > > Lambert > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd > Website: > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From sgsax at ksu.edu Wed Apr 9 14:07:06 2003 From: sgsax at ksu.edu (Seth Galitzer) Date: 09 Apr 2003 14:07:06 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT StartOffice In-Reply-To: <1049913718.3e946976b3732@hosea.qub.ac.uk> References: <1049909180.3e9457bc77efa@hosea.qub.ac.uk> <1049912749.26548.50.camel@sgsax-th4022c> <1049913718.3e946976b3732@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1049915226.27231.67.camel@sgsax-th4022c> Martin, The database has always been seperate, not sure why, other than tradition. The name of the database app is Adabase D. If you can find that somewhere then you're home free. I think I have a copy of it, but the uni here also has a software contract with Sun. I will say that 6.0 was a huge improvement over 5.2, mostly because 5.2 had a massive integrated desktop environment that you had to use in order to use the suite. 6.0 got rid of that garbage entirely. I think it's much nicer now. Seth On Wed, 2003-04-09 at 13:41, Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK wrote: > Thanks Seth > > Just installed it on Win XP Pro. Giving it a look now. Only thing didnt > install was the database which is not part of the default set up files and > cant find it on sun site. > > Martin -- Seth Galitzer sgsax at ksu.edu Computing Specialist http://puma.agron.ksu.edu/~sgsax Dept. of Plant Pathology Kansas State University From Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Wed Apr 9 14:05:59 2003 From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK (Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 20:05:59 +0100 (BST) Subject: [AccessD] RE:Tag Line of William Hindman In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1049915159.3e946f17b029b@hosea.qub.ac.uk> We have an OT List for this stuff. Martin From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Wed Apr 9 14:07:28 2003 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 20:07:28 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001501c2fecb$43e6a380$b274d0d5@andypc> Charles Where would be the challenge in that? Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Wortz, Charles > Sent: 09 April 2003 19:09 > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh > > > Andy, > > You want logic? You sure ask for a lot! If you wanted > a logical dating system, then you would be pushing for > something like all months being 30 days long with a four or > five day holiday at the end/beginning of the year and the > names of the months matching their month numbers. > > > Charles Wortz > Software Development Division > Texas Education Agency > 1701 N. Congress Ave > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > 512-463-9493 > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk] > Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 09 12:28 > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh > > Well at least yyyymmdd makes some kind of sense. It follows > the principle of any numbering system in having the higher > order numbers to the left, working down to lower order to the > right. And the UK version does at least do the same in > reverse. I've never understood the logic of the US format (ducks). > > Andy Lacey > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Wortz, Charles > Sent: 09 April 2003 16:34 > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh > > > And we could cut traffic on this list by 10% or more if > everybody would adopt the international date format of > yyyymmdd instead of trying to use the obsolete date formats > of mmddyy and ddmmyy. Charles Wortz > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd > Website: > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 9 14:11:37 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 15:11:37 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] RE:Tag Line of William Hindman References: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF40389768E@xlivmbx12.aig.com> Message-ID: <00e801c2fecb$d7d71b10$6101a8c0@amd2k512> Lambert ...my tag line stays ...that you object to its content is your problem ...otoh, you're welcome to your own tag line ...else please refrain from posting political pathos here ...join the dba-OT list which we support for that explicit purpose ...and where I'll be most happy to roast you, your opinions, and your tag lines :)) William Hindman ...btw, I'm not a Republican either :))))) "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heenan, Lambert" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 2:29 PM Subject: [AccessD] RE:Tag Line of William Hindman > William, > > You quote a J.S. Mill comment about war. > > "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and > degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is > worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to > fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a > miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so > by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill > > Is it to justify the present fiasco? To further put down those people who > did not agree with the US/UK invading Iraq for the reasons their governments > stated? Are you yet another of those who cannot / will not see the > difference between supporting our troops and supporting our government? The > republican masses and mass media - encouraged by their leaders - continue to > perpetuate the false notion that to disagree with the president and the war > is to wish harm to our troops - to be unpatriotic - but any plain thinking > person who can see beyond the blinkers knows this is simply A LIE to foster > discontent come polling time. > > It's a shame that you use a quote from a philosopher who was writing in the > context, and within the shores of the greatest single example of imperial > pillage that the world has ever know: the British Empire, who's expansion > was in full swing at the time. It is also ironic as Mill was amongst the > most radically Liberal politicians of his time. Though never a socialist, he > advocated public ownership of natural resources, women's rights, birth > control and universal suffrage to mention just a few. None of which appear > to be foremost in the minds of the republican administration. There may well > be something more ugly thing than 'the decayed and degraded state of moral > and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war', it could > just be the current USA administration which shows no limit to its > hypocrisy. > > Sorry off the O/T nature of this post, but if we have to read the such out > of context remarks in peoples' tag lines I think they need responding to on > the main list - at least once! > > Lambert > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us Wed Apr 9 14:07:39 2003 From: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us (Tesiny, Ed) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 15:07:39 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Printing in Access 2002 Message-ID: Liz, I don't have a solution but we do have similar problems. With ours, on some PCs Print Preview only shows the top third of the document and if there is a chart embedded you can't see it, just white space. Also, when printing, again only on some PCs, it indents the document three inches from the left cutting off text on the right. When I tried to duplicate these problems, my PC did everything correctly?? Our IT people came by and said they know there is a problem with WinXP/OXP PCs and some Hewlett Packard LaserJet printers (we have HP LaserJet 8100 N printers). Unfortunately, at this point in time M$ and HP are just pointing at each other, saying it's not our problem. About 6 months ago, our office replaced 350 Win95, Win98, O97 PCs with WinXP/OXP and our IT people have been going crazy ever since. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful. Ed Ed Tesiny EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us -----Original Message----- From: Liz Doering [mailto:liz at symphonyinfo.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 2:42 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Printing in Access 2002 Dear List, We have a client (Bill) who sells a little application to local city governments and comes to us about once a year for tweaks and upgrades. Today he has spent the whole day at one of his cities, trying to get his app to run on their WinXP/Office XP machines. (This app was originally developed in 97 and converted to 2000). Everything is fine except that reports do not run. Hitting the Preview button causes absolutely nothing to happen. I was thinking that this was a problem with the app, or the conversion to Access 2002, but I don't think so now. I had Bill create a completely new .mdb, create one table with four fields: ID, Name, Address, City. The ID field is an autonumber PK, the rest are text. Bill used the report wizard to create one simple report from this table, and received the message that "The wizard is unable to create your report". Creating a report without the wizard produced a little more information, a complaint about a lack of default printer. (I don't have the exact text of the error message, and I can't get it, because Bill has given up for the day and gone home.) We double-checked for a default printer, which there was, but in the hopes of changing something, we deleted all printers and re-installed one, setting that to the default. The printer will act correctly as the default printer for Word, Excel, etc. Rebooting hasn't helped. Nor has a re-install of Access. Does anybody know what is going on here? Thanks so much, Liz Doering Symphony Information Services liz at symphonyinfo.com www.symphonyinfo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Wed Apr 9 14:15:03 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 14:15:03 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh Message-ID: Andy, You don't have enough challenges trying to keep AccessD civil? Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 09 14:07 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh Charles Where would be the challenge in that? Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Wortz, Charles > Sent: 09 April 2003 19:09 > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh > > > Andy, > > You want logic? You sure ask for a lot! If you wanted > a logical dating system, then you would be pushing for > something like all months being 30 days long with a four or > five day holiday at the end/beginning of the year and the > names of the months matching their month numbers. > > > Charles Wortz From jimdettman at earthlink.net Wed Apr 9 14:16:32 2003 From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 15:16:32 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Printing in Access 2002 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Try installing a very generic driver, such as a HP Laser JET III (assuming this is a Laser) and printing the report against that. Buggy print drivers seem to be becoming an issue again. If that fixes it, then you might want to try altering some of the original driver settings (such as spool format), or report properties (such as Layout For Print and Fast Laser Printing). Jim Dettman President, Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc. (315) 699-3443 jimdettman at earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Liz Doering Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 2:42 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Printing in Access 2002 Dear List, We have a client (Bill) who sells a little application to local city governments and comes to us about once a year for tweaks and upgrades. Today he has spent the whole day at one of his cities, trying to get his app to run on their WinXP/Office XP machines. (This app was originally developed in 97 and converted to 2000). Everything is fine except that reports do not run. Hitting the Preview button causes absolutely nothing to happen. I was thinking that this was a problem with the app, or the conversion to Access 2002, but I don't think so now. I had Bill create a completely new .mdb, create one table with four fields: ID, Name, Address, City. The ID field is an autonumber PK, the rest are text. Bill used the report wizard to create one simple report from this table, and received the message that "The wizard is unable to create your report". Creating a report without the wizard produced a little more information, a complaint about a lack of default printer. (I don't have the exact text of the error message, and I can't get it, because Bill has given up for the day and gone home.) We double-checked for a default printer, which there was, but in the hopes of changing something, we deleted all printers and re-installed one, setting that to the default. The printer will act correctly as the default printer for Word, Excel, etc. Rebooting hasn't helped. 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URL: From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 9 14:24:18 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 15:24:18 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Printing in Access 2002 References: Message-ID: <010801c2fecd$9df19040$6101a8c0@amd2k512> ...having just gone through a week long exercise with a brand new $18K Minolta Printer/Copier at a client, I can vouchsafe that lots of XP drivers are buggy ... had to actually install a W2K laptop and print from it to get critical work out the door ...the only thing that I can tell you is that if the printer driver is missing the MS Certified for Windows XP logo there is probably a reason for it besides the cost :((((((( William Hindman "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Dettman To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 3:16 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Printing in Access 2002 Try installing a very generic driver, such as a HP Laser JET III (assuming this is a Laser) and printing the report against that. Buggy print drivers seem to be becoming an issue again. If that fixes it, then you might want to try altering some of the original driver settings (such as spool format), or report properties (such as Layout For Print and Fast Laser Printing). Jim Dettman President, Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc. (315) 699-3443 jimdettman at earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Liz Doering Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 2:42 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Printing in Access 2002 Dear List, We have a client (Bill) who sells a little application to local city governments and comes to us about once a year for tweaks and upgrades. Today he has spent the whole day at one of his cities, trying to get his app to run on their WinXP/Office XP machines. (This app was originally developed in 97 and converted to 2000). Everything is fine except that reports do not run. Hitting the Preview button causes absolutely nothing to happen. I was thinking that this was a problem with the app, or the conversion to Access 2002, but I don't think so now. I had Bill create a completely new .mdb, create one table with four fields: ID, Name, Address, City. The ID field is an autonumber PK, the rest are text. Bill used the report wizard to create one simple report from this table, and received the message that "The wizard is unable to create your report". Creating a report without the wizard produced a little more information, a complaint about a lack of default printer. (I don't have the exact text of the error message, and I can't get it, because Bill has given up for the day and gone home.) We double-checked for a default printer, which there was, but in the hopes of changing something, we deleted all printers and re-installed one, setting that to the default. The printer will act correctly as the default printer for Word, Excel, etc. Rebooting hasn't helped. Nor has a re-install of Access. Does anybody know what is going on here? Thanks so much, Liz Doering Symphony Information Services liz at symphonyinfo.com www.symphonyinfo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tomadatn at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 9 14:27:54 2003 From: tomadatn at bellsouth.net (Tom Adams) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 14:27:54 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Daily Task program mods - hot off the press References: Message-ID: <001701c2fece$1fb21dc0$6400000a@dogbert2k> Due to tremendous demand (thanks Mom) I've posted the latest mods to the Daily Task program. Basics are the same but lots of small mods. I've left the data in to make it easy check it out. Big mod needed is to tie the Tasks with the Daily Tasks so I can compare estimated with actual. If anyone does this please send me the mods. Re. Management use - 2 people are supposed to be monitoring me to make sure I'm not wasting time, etc. So far neither is even looking at this on a daily basis. However I still like it a lot. It helps me keep up with what I'm supposed to do as well as answering the eternal question - what in the heck did I do today? www.accessdevgroup.org , click Download and go to the Daily Tasks program. Tom From artful at rogers.com Wed Apr 9 14:26:58 2003 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 15:26:58 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] RE:Tag Line of William Hindman In-Reply-To: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF40389768E@xlivmbx12.aig.com> Message-ID: <000101c2fecd$fd4e40b0$8e01a8c0@Rock> I would like to follow this with a suggestion that all such quotes be banned. I would rather not even see names, since these can obtained from the >From property. Especially when the same dumb-ass quote is used over and over and over again, bringing to mind the Country Classic, "If I had to do it all over again, I'd do it all over you." -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: April 9, 2003 2:30 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: [AccessD] RE:Tag Line of William Hindman William, You quote a J.S. Mill comment about war. "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill Is it to justify the present fiasco? To further put down those people who did not agree with the US/UK invading Iraq for the reasons their governments stated? Are you yet another of those who cannot / will not see the difference between supporting our troops and supporting our government? The republican masses and mass media - encouraged by their leaders - continue to perpetuate the false notion that to disagree with the president and the war is to wish harm to our troops - to be unpatriotic - but any plain thinking person who can see beyond the blinkers knows this is simply A LIE to foster discontent come polling time. It's a shame that you use a quote from a philosopher who was writing in the context, and within the shores of the greatest single example of imperial pillage that the world has ever know: the British Empire, who's expansion was in full swing at the time. It is also ironic as Mill was amongst the most radically Liberal politicians of his time. Though never a socialist, he advocated public ownership of natural resources, women's rights, birth control and universal suffrage to mention just a few. None of which appear to be foremost in the minds of the republican administration. There may well be something more ugly thing than 'the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war', it could just be the current USA administration which shows no limit to its hypocrisy. Sorry off the O/T nature of this post, but if we have to read the such out of context remarks in peoples' tag lines I think they need responding to on the main list - at least once! Lambert From chris at denverdb.com Wed Apr 9 14:30:46 2003 From: chris at denverdb.com (Chris Mackin) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 13:30:46 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes In-Reply-To: <768A0EA6FF8CB34FA522978966E5D52E559D67@bwam02msx.ae.ge.com> Message-ID: Just wanted to say thanks to all who responded, your input is appreciated. Chris Mackin Denver Database Consulting, LLC www.denverdb.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting) Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 12:10 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes William, Thanks for the explanation. I think this site could get you a pretty accurate distance... http://www.melissadata.com/AddressObject/addressobject.htm Scott -----Original Message----- From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 1:52 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes Scott ...not quite, 5 digit zips are assigned to the main post offices within a zip ...mileage is calculated between the po's, not the area boundaries ...but its still full of errors when you are concerned about actual mileage rather than proximate ...in the only app I use zip/mileage calculations in, a difference of a few miles isn't a concern whereas it would appear to be in Chris's application ...except that his contract allows for exactly that type of error by specifying the use of zip codes ...moving up to the next step ...routing software door to door mileage calculations is tremendously more costly and is actually subject to more variables since the opening of a new road could easily change the mileage calculations considerably ...take your pick of poison ...in Chris's case, I'd stick with zips. William Hindman "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting)" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 1:34 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes > So 2 zip codes next to each other are zero miles appart but could total more > than 7 miles. Even worse, 3 zipcodes could touch each other and each be zero > miles appart. I think address is gonna be the only way. > > Scott > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Mackin [mailto:chris at denverdb.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 1:29 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes > > > Scott, > > In DC there are no zip codes that are very large so using it as an > approximation is an acceptable method and was specified by the contract, I > just need to know if there's an automated way to do it. If I can get access > to a system that uses the full address then that would be even better, but > it doesn't need to be that percise. > > Chris Mackin > www.denverdb.com > Denver Database Consulting, LLC > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Marcus, Scott > (GEAE, RHI Consulting) > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 11:18 AM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes > > > Chris, > > Where I live, a zipcode can cover more than a 7 mile radius. I live in the > Greater Cincinnati area. By no means would you call where I live sparse in > population. How would you determine the difference between a zip code any > way? > It would have to be by address. Maybe you could automate "MapQuest" to get > the > distance between the office and client. > > Scott > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Mackin [mailto:chris at denverdb.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 1:05 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Determine Mileage Between 2 Zip Codes > > > Does anyone know of any code or software that I can use to try and get > mileage between 2 zip codes? The situation is this, in an insurance > database there is a contractual obligation for my client to report on the > number of members of the plan who live within 7 miles of one of the > providers of the plan. There are about 250 providers in the Washington DC > area and approximately 15,000 members so the more automation I can get in > this the better. > > Thanks, > Chris Mackin > www.denverdb.com > Denver Database Consulting, LLC > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From artful at rogers.com Wed Apr 9 14:32:38 2003 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 15:32:38 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000301c2fece$c78f98b0$8e01a8c0@Rock> Exactly! Hear hear for logical dates! You rule, Charles! Now if only we could convince the great unwashed :-) January = One, February = Two etc. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Wortz, Charles Sent: April 9, 2003 2:09 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh Andy, You want logic? You sure ask for a lot! If you wanted a logical dating system, then you would be pushing for something like all months being 30 days long with a four or five day holiday at the end/beginning of the year and the names of the months matching their month numbers. From liz at symphonyinfo.com Wed Apr 9 14:44:13 2003 From: liz at symphonyinfo.com (Liz Doering) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 14:44:13 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Printing in Access 2002 In-Reply-To: <010801c2fecd$9df19040$6101a8c0@amd2k512> Message-ID: Thanks, everyone for your ideas. I've just gotten an update from Bill: Out of desperation and fear of the client, Bill tried setting the default to another printer--not the client's preferred one, but just any one, to see if any other difference could be made. And it worked! So from what you all have said, XP didn't like the driver for the original printer as well as it likes the driver for this one. Unfortunately, the client must now choose his preferred printer each time he prints, but he appears to be OK with that. Liz -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of William Hindman Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 2:24 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Printing in Access 2002 ...having just gone through a week long exercise with a brand new $18K Minolta Printer/Copier at a client, I can vouchsafe that lots of XP drivers are buggy ... had to actually install a W2K laptop and print from it to get critical work out the door ...the only thing that I can tell you is that if the printer driver is missing the MS Certified for Windows XP logo there is probably a reason for it besides the cost :((((((( William Hindman "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Dettman To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 3:16 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Printing in Access 2002 Try installing a very generic driver, such as a HP Laser JET III (assuming this is a Laser) and printing the report against that. Buggy print drivers seem to be becoming an issue again. If that fixes it, then you might want to try altering some of the original driver settings (such as spool format), or report properties (such as Layout For Print and Fast Laser Printing). Jim Dettman President, Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc. (315) 699-3443 jimdettman at earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Liz Doering Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 2:42 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Printing in Access 2002 Dear List, We have a client (Bill) who sells a little application to local city governments and comes to us about once a year for tweaks and upgrades. Today he has spent the whole day at one of his cities, trying to get his app to run on their WinXP/Office XP machines. (This app was originally developed in 97 and converted to 2000). Everything is fine except that reports do not run. Hitting the Preview button causes absolutely nothing to happen. I was thinking that this was a problem with the app, or the conversion to Access 2002, but I don't think so now. I had Bill create a completely new .mdb, create one table with four fields: ID, Name, Address, City. The ID field is an autonumber PK, the rest are text. Bill used the report wizard to create one simple report from this table, and received the message that "The wizard is unable to create your report". Creating a report without the wizard produced a little more information, a complaint about a lack of default printer. (I don't have the exact text of the error message, and I can't get it, because Bill has given up for the day and gone home.) We double-checked for a default printer, which there was, but in the hopes of changing something, we deleted all printers and re-installed one, setting that to the default. The printer will act correctly as the default printer for Word, Excel, etc. Rebooting hasn't helped. Nor has a re-install of Access. Does anybody know what is going on here? Thanks so much, Liz Doering Symphony Information Services liz at symphonyinfo.com www.symphonyinfo.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com Wed Apr 9 16:17:20 2003 From: mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com (Mark Whittinghill) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 15:17:20 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh References: Message-ID: <004101c2fedd$68625ee0$0300000a@PASCAL> The hobbits have a calendar like that. They're pretty practical folk. :-) Mark Whittinghill Symphony Information Services 612-333-1311 mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wortz, Charles" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 12:08 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh > Andy, > > You want logic? You sure ask for a lot! If you wanted a logical > dating system, then you would be pushing for something like all months > being 30 days long with a four or five day holiday at the end/beginning > of the year and the names of the months matching their month numbers. > > > > Charles Wortz > Software Development Division > Texas Education Agency > 1701 N. Congress Ave > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > 512-463-9493 > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Wed Apr 9 15:38:21 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 13:38:21 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Access XP Meltdowns Message-ID: I would readily blame VSS if I weren't seeing the same thing in databases that are compacted *out* of VSS. In other words, there is no VSS connection at that point. They are MDBs rather than ADPs. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 9:11 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access XP Meltdowns Is it an MDB or an ADP? I do almost all my work in ADPs and I haven't noticed this. I have, however, noticed that sometimes it loses track of event code. Click the property sheet and go in, and there's the code, but before you do so the whole event tab is blank. No idea why it does that. On this project I'm not using SourceSafe, so possibly the problem is there, not in Access 2002? -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: April 9, 2003 11:41 AM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Access XP Meltdowns Has anyone else seen frequent meltdowns on XP (SP-2) databases in development? I've seen this on both source safe mdbs and those compacted out of source safe. The original project seems to be ok, but the copy I'm working on goes down in flames. It appears that malformed code can trigger an endless loop of this, and the backup option only perpetuates the damage. I'm seeing this at least once a day on the app I'm working on, and it's driving me nuts because it happens when I'm in the middle of creating new code, which naturally is malformed until it's complete! Aarrrggghhh!!! Charlotte Foust _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Wed Apr 9 15:41:22 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 13:41:22 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Access XP Meltdowns Message-ID: We can't quit using VSS because there are three of us actively developing and sharing code between projects. Since the code is also in a state of development, a code library is out of the question. Unless there's a better alternative to VSS someone can suggest, we're stuck with VSS. We never saw this kind of problem with VSS and Access 97, so it may be the interaction between VSS and AXP that is causing some difficulties, but in that case, I wouldn't expect to see it in files that are not linked to VSS. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 10:00 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access XP Meltdowns Charlotte, I have to agree with William, in that we have been using A02 for some time now without any problems. We quit using VisualSourceSafe for new projects because we were having too many problems with it. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 09 12:29 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access XP Meltdowns Charlotte ...been using AXP for a long while now in a variety of environments with nothing like you describe ...but I'm an independent and don't use SourceSafe so you might want to take a look there ...HTH :) William Hindman "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlotte Foust" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 11:40 AM Subject: [AccessD] Access XP Meltdowns > Has anyone else seen frequent meltdowns on XP (SP-2) databases in > development? I've seen this on both source safe mdbs and those > compacted out of source safe. The original project seems to be ok, > but the copy I'm working on goes down in flames. It appears that > malformed code can trigger an endless loop of this, and the backup > option only perpetuates the damage. I'm seeing this at least once a > day on the app I'm working on, and it's driving me nuts because it > happens when I'm in the middle of creating new code, which naturally > is malformed until it's complete! Aarrrggghhh!!! > > Charlotte Foust _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com Wed Apr 9 16:03:29 2003 From: jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 17:03:29 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Iraq In-Reply-To: <18242734018.20030409204159@cactus.dk> Message-ID: Thank you for sharing that! John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 2:42 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] OT: Iraq Hi all I'll promise this will be my only mail on the subject but I happens to both work and live nearby the American embassy. We have quite a few Iraq people living here. Some are "radicals" but most of them are quietly trying to establish a living far away from where they were born. At this moment these quiet people have become visible, driving by the embassy waving flags, singing and celebrating the moment. It's very touching and you can feel and understand their happiness. A great day. /gustav _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ---------------------------------------------------- Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Seth Galitzer" To: "accessd" Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT StartOffice > Martin, > > The database has always been seperate, not sure why, other than > tradition. The name of the database app is Adabase D. If you can find > that somewhere then you're home free. I think I have a copy of it, but > the uni here also has a software contract with Sun. I will say that 6.0 > was a huge improvement over 5.2, mostly because 5.2 had a massive > integrated desktop environment that you had to use in order to use the > suite. 6.0 got rid of that garbage entirely. I think it's much nicer > now. > > Seth > > On Wed, 2003-04-09 at 13:41, Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK wrote: > > Thanks Seth > > > > Just installed it on Win XP Pro. Giving it a look now. Only thing didnt > > install was the database which is not part of the default set up files and > > cant find it on sun site. > > > > Martin > > -- > Seth Galitzer sgsax at ksu.edu > Computing Specialist http://puma.agron.ksu.edu/~sgsax > Dept. of Plant Pathology > Kansas State University > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From artful at rogers.com Wed Apr 9 17:03:53 2003 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 18:03:53 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Access XP Meltdowns In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000101c2fee3$e8b36f20$8e01a8c0@Rock> I have not experienced this. I have no idea what to suggest to fix it, sorry. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: April 9, 2003 4:38 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access XP Meltdowns I would readily blame VSS if I weren't seeing the same thing in databases that are compacted *out* of VSS. In other words, there is no VSS connection at that point. They are MDBs rather than ADPs. Charlotte Foust From rob at consulting.com.au Wed Apr 9 19:25:33 2003 From: rob at consulting.com.au (Rob Chivers) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 08:25:33 +0800 Subject: [AccessD] export dates using transfertext A2K In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi I am exporting from a table to a text file with dates but keep getting the time in the exported date even though it doesn?t appear in the table. I have tried setting the date to dd-mmm-yyyy in table field but works on 1 table but not on another table. I have manually set up an export specification (eg ExportLeaseSpecification ) for each table using ; delimiter and none for text qualifier and : for time separator. Code is: ?following queries export to tmpPASwinExportLease and has 3 date fields with format dd-mmm-yyyy DoCmd.OpenQuery "qappExportLeaseHeader" DoCmd.OpenQuery "qappExportLease" ExportPASwinFile "ExportLeaseSpecification", "tmpExportLease", "ExportLease.txt" The export works fine but results in 17;21/03/2003;555;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; 1;N;070;ca;;;;2;12/04/1999;11/4/2004 0:00:00;;;;0;;;;;;;28/3/2003 14:10:56; 2;N;070;cip;;;;2;1/07/2000;30/6/2004 0:00:00;;;;0;;;;;;;28/3/2003 14:10:56; and what I want is 17;21/03/2003;555;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; 1;N;070;ca;;;;2;12/04/1999;11/4/2004;;;;0;;;;;;;28/3/2003; 2;N;070;cip;;;;2;1/07/2000;30/6/2004;;;;0;;;;;;;28/3/2003; Can anybody help? Thanks Rob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mattys www.mattysconsulting.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Chivers" To: "Database Advisors" Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 8:25 PM Subject: [AccessD] export dates using transfertext A2K > > Hi > I am exporting from a table to a text file with dates but keep getting the > time in the exported date even though it doesn't appear in the table. > I have tried setting the date to dd-mmm-yyyy in table field but works on 1 > table but not on another table. > I have manually set up an export specification (eg > ExportLeaseSpecification ) for each table using ; delimiter and none for > text qualifier and : for time separator. > > Code is: > 'following queries export to tmpPASwinExportLease and has 3 date fields with > format dd-mmm-yyyy > DoCmd.OpenQuery "qappExportLeaseHeader" > DoCmd.OpenQuery "qappExportLease" > ExportPASwinFile "ExportLeaseSpecification", "tmpExportLease", > "ExportLease.txt" > > The export works fine but results in > > 17;21/03/2003;555;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; > 1;N;070;ca;;;;2;12/04/1999;11/4/2004 0:00:00;;;;0;;;;;;;28/3/2003 14:10:56; > 2;N;070;cip;;;;2;1/07/2000;30/6/2004 0:00:00;;;;0;;;;;;;28/3/2003 14:10:56; > > and what I want is > > 17;21/03/2003;555;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; > 1;N;070;ca;;;;2;12/04/1999;11/4/2004;;;;0;;;;;;;28/3/2003; > 2;N;070;cip;;;;2;1/07/2000;30/6/2004;;;;0;;;;;;;28/3/2003; > > Can anybody help? > > Thanks > Rob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From garykjos at hotmail.com Wed Apr 9 20:49:59 2003 From: garykjos at hotmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 20:49:59 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] export dates using transfertext A2K Message-ID: Hi Rob, You need to use a format function to convert your date to a text string. FormattedDateField:Format(YourDateField,"mm-dd-yyyy") Gary Kjos garykjos at hotmail.com >From: "Rob Chivers" >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >To: "Database Advisors" >Subject: [AccessD] export dates using transfertext A2K >Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 08:25:33 +0800 > > >Hi >I am exporting from a table to a text file with dates but keep getting the >time in the exported date even though it doesn?t appear in the table. >I have tried setting the date to dd-mmm-yyyy in table field but works on 1 >table but not on another table. >I have manually set up an export specification (eg >ExportLeaseSpecification ) for each table using ; delimiter and none for >text qualifier and : for time separator. > >Code is: >?following queries export to tmpPASwinExportLease and has 3 date fields >with >format dd-mmm-yyyy > DoCmd.OpenQuery "qappExportLeaseHeader" > DoCmd.OpenQuery "qappExportLease" > ExportPASwinFile "ExportLeaseSpecification", "tmpExportLease", >"ExportLease.txt" > >The export works fine but results in > >17;21/03/2003;555;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; >1;N;070;ca;;;;2;12/04/1999;11/4/2004 0:00:00;;;;0;;;;;;;28/3/2003 14:10:56; >2;N;070;cip;;;;2;1/07/2000;30/6/2004 0:00:00;;;;0;;;;;;;28/3/2003 14:10:56; > >and what I want is > >17;21/03/2003;555;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; >1;N;070;ca;;;;2;12/04/1999;11/4/2004;;;;0;;;;;;;28/3/2003; >2;N;070;cip;;;;2;1/07/2000;30/6/2004;;;;0;;;;;;;28/3/2003; > >Can anybody help? > >Thanks >Rob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From DWUTKA at marlow.com Wed Apr 9 21:01:06 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 21:01:06 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82645@main2.marlow.com> When it's up again (watch in a post or two from me.....bad morning....), it should take approx. 2 hours max to show up. It could take a hair less, and it could be a LOT faster. The 'archiver' runs every 2 hours, so messages aren't in the database until the archiver retrieves them. The indexer runs every 10 minutes....so it could take 2 hours and 10 minutes to be archived, and then indexed, at which point it would show up in a search. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Kathryn Bassett [mailto:kathryn at bassett.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 8:07 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] AccessD Archives are UP! How long (on average) should it take for a message to show up when doing a search (from time of posting)? My posting showed up at 5:58 (pacific), and at 6:05 it still isn't there. I did my search on get a little goofy and see several messages of the thread, but not mine, so far. Which led to this question, just because I'm curious. -- Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA) "Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap" kathryn at bassett.net http://bassett.net _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Wed Apr 9 21:25:13 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 21:25:13 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82646@main2.marlow.com> Okay, follow this evidence of the curse. I initially built and hosted the archives on my work machine. In early January of this year, I moved the entire archives to my home machine. That was on a weekend, and that Thursday (so 4 days later) my DSL provider (IP Communications....who my ISP was leasing my DSL through) went bankrupt and just switched off their network. It took close to a month to get my DSL back up and running. When my DSL finally came back up, so I could once again 'host' the archives, I had them online, and had even built the index portion (just didn't have the search using that technology yet). Two days after getting my DSL back online (with SBC as the new DSL provider...through my normal ISP), my wife decided to move us to a new apartment (300 feet away), so I had to move my phone AND DSL (however I cancelled with my ISP, and went with SBC directly, which took close to a month to get that to go through....go figure). So mid March I finally had DSL again, in my new apartment. Two weeks ago I 'rebuilt' my website (actually it's blank, just a new theme and menus......), and last week I began putting the index capability into the search pages. I announced their existence and availability Monday night. This morning (Wednesday around 12:30 am EST), our apartment building caught on fire. 3 of the 4 top apartments are completely gutted by the fire. I am/was in the bottom apartment in the middle of the three 'gutted' ones. My apartment has a little fire damage, but a LOT of smoke and water damage. Thus, the archives are offline, once again! ARG, I swear they are cursed. However, there is a silver lining. The complex we were leasing with do not have another apartment of the same size for us. However, just down the street there is a brand new complex (with a sprinkler system and firewalls in and around all of the apartments...go figure...), which is offering a similar sized apartment, for about the same price, however water and cable are included, High speed internet is available for less then DSL (and I can get a static IP), not too mention free membership to their Golf club (course and club house). It's beautiful, and we already have a deposit down on an apartment. So, if all goes well, I'll have the archives up again in a week or so, otherwise I've been given 'permission' to move them back to work here, until I get my home system up and running. I am at work now, and have brought my home 'server' in with me (first thing I grabbed from my apartment, when a fireperson let me go in real quick)....... Everyone wish me luck, because in an hour or so, I am going to bravely clean up the box, and see if it turns on! Drew (Who is currently chain smoking and taking several Tylenol every four hours.....) From DWUTKA at marlow.com Wed Apr 9 21:39:17 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 21:39:17 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Iraq Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82647@main2.marlow.com> I second that. Though I don't want to snowball this into a severely OT thread, I do want to say that I will always feel happy and joyful for anyone that finds their future looking a little more free, and a little brighter. Drew > -----Original Message----- > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 4:03 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Iraq > > Thank you for sharing that! > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 2:42 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] OT: Iraq > > > Hi all > > I'll promise this will be my only mail on the subject but I happens to > both work and live nearby the American embassy. > > We have quite a few Iraq people living here. Some are "radicals" but > most of them are quietly trying to establish a living far away from > where they were born. > > At this moment these quiet people have become visible, driving by the > embassy waving flags, singing and celebrating the moment. It's very > touching and you can feel and understand their happiness. A great day. > > /gustav > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. > Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com << File: ATT25464.txt >> From SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au Wed Apr 9 21:42:49 2003 From: SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au (Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 12:42:49 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Iraq Message-ID: <000c01c2ff0a$e03c4fc0$54dd31d2@OfficePC> Personally, I don't think that politics should even have a place on this OT list - too much chance of alienating members. Kath Pelletti Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. Ph: 9505-6714 Fax: 9505-6430 SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d.dick at uws.edu.au Wed Apr 9 23:08:55 2003 From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 14:08:55 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Pass Field Name to function Message-ID: <001201c2ff16$e7736ce0$3c619a89@DDICK> Hello all The commented code below works fine. That is if I type the FieldName in directly What I want to do is pass in the FieldName from passes parameters I just can't get the syntax right. Any help or suggestions would be most appreciated Many thanks Darren __________________________________________________ _________________________ Function fComboDoubleClick(stFormToOpen As String, stFieldToFilter As String) DoCmd.OpenForm stFormToOpen ' This line works 'The line below works when BroadcastTypeID is typed in Manually 'Forms(stDocName).RecordsetClone.FindFirst "[BroadcastTypeID ]=" & Me.ActiveControl 'The line below fails whan I try and pass the field name as a parameter Forms(stDocName).RecordsetClone.FindFirst " & stFieldToFilter & = " & Me.ActiveControl __________________________________________________ _________________________ From d.dick at uws.edu.au Wed Apr 9 23:13:31 2003 From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 14:13:31 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! References: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82646@main2.marlow.com> Message-ID: <002e01c2ff17$8bd52e90$3c619a89@DDICK> What an awesome tale. It beats the ole 'dog ate my homework' excuse by miles. :-) Seriously, I do hope everyone is OK and your pewta too. Best of luck dude DD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Drew Wutka" To: Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 12:25 PM Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! > Okay, follow this evidence of the curse. > > I initially built and hosted the archives on my work machine. In early > January of this year, I moved the entire archives to my home machine. That > was on a weekend, and that Thursday (so 4 days later) my DSL provider (IP > Communications....who my ISP was leasing my DSL through) went bankrupt and > just switched off their network. It took close to a month to get my DSL > back up and running. When my DSL finally came back up, so I could once > again 'host' the archives, I had them online, and had even built the index > portion (just didn't have the search using that technology yet). Two days > after getting my DSL back online (with SBC as the new DSL provider...through > my normal ISP), my wife decided to move us to a new apartment (300 feet > away), so I had to move my phone AND DSL (however I cancelled with my ISP, > and went with SBC directly, which took close to a month to get that to go > through....go figure). So mid March I finally had DSL again, in my new > apartment. Two weeks ago I 'rebuilt' my website (actually it's blank, just > a new theme and menus......), and last week I began putting the index > capability into the search pages. I announced their existence and > availability Monday night. This morning (Wednesday around 12:30 am EST), > our apartment building caught on fire. 3 of the 4 top apartments are > completely gutted by the fire. I am/was in the bottom apartment in the > middle of the three 'gutted' ones. My apartment has a little fire damage, > but a LOT of smoke and water damage. > > Thus, the archives are offline, once again! ARG, I swear they are cursed. > However, there is a silver lining. The complex we were leasing with do not > have another apartment of the same size for us. However, just down the > street there is a brand new complex (with a sprinkler system and firewalls > in and around all of the apartments...go figure...), which is offering a > similar sized apartment, for about the same price, however water and cable > are included, High speed internet is available for less then DSL (and I can > get a static IP), not too mention free membership to their Golf club (course > and club house). It's beautiful, and we already have a deposit down on an > apartment. So, if all goes well, I'll have the archives up again in a week > or so, otherwise I've been given 'permission' to move them back to work > here, until I get my home system up and running. > > I am at work now, and have brought my home 'server' in with me (first thing > I grabbed from my apartment, when a fireperson let me go in real > quick)....... Everyone wish me luck, because in an hour or so, I am > going to bravely clean up the box, and see if it turns on! fingers crossed!> > > Drew (Who is currently chain smoking and taking several Tylenol every four > hours.....) > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/acces sd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From michael.mattys at adelphia.net Wed Apr 9 23:14:34 2003 From: michael.mattys at adelphia.net (Michael R Mattys) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 00:14:34 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Pass Field Name to function References: <001201c2ff16$e7736ce0$3c619a89@DDICK> Message-ID: <008c01c2ff17$b2ba7510$6401a8c0@default> Hi Darren, Just out of curiousity, would this work? Forms(stDocName).RecordsetClone.FindFirst _ "'" & Me.ActiveControl.Name & "' = " & Me.ActiveControl.Value Michael R. Mattys www.mattysconsulting.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren DICK" To: Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 12:08 AM Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Pass Field Name to function > Hello all > The commented code below works fine. > That is if I type the FieldName in directly > What I want to do is pass in the FieldName from > passes parameters > I just can't get the syntax right. > > Any help or suggestions would be most appreciated > > Many thanks > > Darren > > __________________________________________________ > _________________________ > Function fComboDoubleClick(stFormToOpen As String, > stFieldToFilter As String) > > > DoCmd.OpenForm stFormToOpen ' This line > works > 'The line below works when BroadcastTypeID > is typed in Manually > 'Forms(stDocName).RecordsetClone.FindFirst > "[BroadcastTypeID ]=" & Me.ActiveControl > 'The line below fails whan I try and pass > the field name as a parameter > Forms(stDocName).RecordsetClone.FindFirst > " & stFieldToFilter & = " & Me.ActiveControl > > __________________________________________________ > _________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From chris at denverdb.com Wed Apr 9 23:14:08 2003 From: chris at denverdb.com (Chris Mackin) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 22:14:08 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Pass Field Name to function In-Reply-To: <001201c2ff16$e7736ce0$3c619a89@DDICK> Message-ID: Use this instead: Forms(stDocName).RecordsetClone.FindFirst stFieldToFilter & " = " & Me.ActiveControl of course you will want to make sure that you watch out for Text or Date data type in thos fields, which require the 'Value' or #Value# instead of the above which will work for a numeric Field. Chris Mackin Denver Database Consulting, LLC www.denverdb.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren DICK Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 10:09 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Pass Field Name to function Hello all The commented code below works fine. That is if I type the FieldName in directly What I want to do is pass in the FieldName from passes parameters I just can't get the syntax right. Any help or suggestions would be most appreciated Many thanks Darren __________________________________________________ _________________________ Function fComboDoubleClick(stFormToOpen As String, stFieldToFilter As String) DoCmd.OpenForm stFormToOpen ' This line works 'The line below works when BroadcastTypeID is typed in Manually 'Forms(stDocName).RecordsetClone.FindFirst "[BroadcastTypeID ]=" & Me.ActiveControl 'The line below fails whan I try and pass the field name as a parameter Forms(stDocName).RecordsetClone.FindFirst " & stFieldToFilter & = " & Me.ActiveControl __________________________________________________ _________________________ _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Wed Apr 9 23:23:43 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 23:23:43 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D8264F@main2.marlow.com> Well you must have been wishing me luck at the right moment, because I just turned the 'server' on. Still smells smokey, but so far I'm to the second 'boot' screen (Windows 2000 Server Family).....still going........No unusual noises so far.........I'm literally typing this while watching it boot! 'Windows is Starting up'....DEFINITELY a good sign!. 'Preparing Network connections' (which don't exist...but's it's looking....) Yeah, a desktop...okay, I'm happy.... Drew -----Original Message----- From: Darren DICK [mailto:d.dick at uws.edu.au] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 11:14 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! What an awesome tale. It beats the ole 'dog ate my homework' excuse by miles. :-) Seriously, I do hope everyone is OK and your pewta too. Best of luck dude DD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Drew Wutka" To: Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 12:25 PM Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! > Okay, follow this evidence of the curse. > > I initially built and hosted the archives on my work machine. In early > January of this year, I moved the entire archives to my home machine. That > was on a weekend, and that Thursday (so 4 days later) my DSL provider (IP > Communications....who my ISP was leasing my DSL through) went bankrupt and > just switched off their network. It took close to a month to get my DSL > back up and running. When my DSL finally came back up, so I could once > again 'host' the archives, I had them online, and had even built the index > portion (just didn't have the search using that technology yet). Two days > after getting my DSL back online (with SBC as the new DSL provider...through > my normal ISP), my wife decided to move us to a new apartment (300 feet > away), so I had to move my phone AND DSL (however I cancelled with my ISP, > and went with SBC directly, which took close to a month to get that to go > through....go figure). So mid March I finally had DSL again, in my new > apartment. Two weeks ago I 'rebuilt' my website (actually it's blank, just > a new theme and menus......), and last week I began putting the index > capability into the search pages. I announced their existence and > availability Monday night. This morning (Wednesday around 12:30 am EST), > our apartment building caught on fire. 3 of the 4 top apartments are > completely gutted by the fire. I am/was in the bottom apartment in the > middle of the three 'gutted' ones. My apartment has a little fire damage, > but a LOT of smoke and water damage. > > Thus, the archives are offline, once again! ARG, I swear they are cursed. > However, there is a silver lining. The complex we were leasing with do not > have another apartment of the same size for us. However, just down the > street there is a brand new complex (with a sprinkler system and firewalls > in and around all of the apartments...go figure...), which is offering a > similar sized apartment, for about the same price, however water and cable > are included, High speed internet is available for less then DSL (and I can > get a static IP), not too mention free membership to their Golf club (course > and club house). It's beautiful, and we already have a deposit down on an > apartment. So, if all goes well, I'll have the archives up again in a week > or so, otherwise I've been given 'permission' to move them back to work > here, until I get my home system up and running. > > I am at work now, and have brought my home 'server' in with me (first thing > I grabbed from my apartment, when a fireperson let me go in real > quick)....... Everyone wish me luck, because in an hour or so, I am > going to bravely clean up the box, and see if it turns on! fingers crossed!> > > Drew (Who is currently chain smoking and taking several Tylenol every four > hours.....) > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/acces sd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From d.dick at uws.edu.au Thu Apr 10 00:01:50 2003 From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 15:01:50 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Pass Field Name to function. Solved References: Message-ID: <005401c2ff1e$4c2a0840$3c619a89@DDICK> Hi Chris and Michael Thanks to you both for the quick response I went with Chris' method (It was the first one I tried) :-) Many many thanks guys Darren Final code for anyone who wants it is... -------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- ------ Function fComboDoubleClick(stFormToOpen As String, stFieldToFilter As String, stCallingForm As String) 'Function to open a dataset/table via a popup form where that dataset/table feeds the rowsource of the combo 'that has been double clicked - and to be take to the relevant record in the popup form On Error GoTo Err_Function If IsNull(Forms(stCallingForm).ActiveControl) Or Forms(stCallingForm).ActiveControl = "" Then DoCmd.OpenForm stFormToOpen Else DoCmd.OpenForm stFormToOpen Forms(stFormToOpen).RecordsetClone.FindFirst stFieldToFilter & " = " & Forms(stCallingForm).ActiveControl Forms(stFormToOpen).Bookmark = Forms(stFormToOpen).RecordsetClone.Bookmark End If Exit_Function: Exit Function Err_Function: MsgBox Err.Number & " " & Err.Description, vbCritical, "OABIS" Resume Exit_Function End Function -------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- ------ Example of how to call it Private Sub cmbBroadcastTypeID_DblClick(Cancel As Integer) Call fComboDoubleClick("frmBroadcastTypes", "BroadcastTypeID", Me.Form.Name) 'This of course assumes you have a form called frmBroadcastTypes and its bound 'dataset has a fieldname called BroadcastTypeID End Sub ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Mackin" To: Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 2:14 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: Pass Field Name to function > Use this instead: > > Forms(stDocName).RecordsetClone.FindFirst stFieldToFilter & " = " & > Me.ActiveControl > > of course you will want to make sure that you watch out for Text or Date > data type in thos fields, which require the 'Value' or #Value# instead of > the above which will work for a numeric Field. > > Chris Mackin > Denver Database Consulting, LLC > www.denverdb.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren DICK > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 10:09 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Pass Field Name to function > > > Hello all > The commented code below works fine. > That is if I type the FieldName in directly > What I want to do is pass in the FieldName from > passes parameters > I just can't get the syntax right. > > Any help or suggestions would be most appreciated > > Many thanks > > Darren > > __________________________________________________ > _________________________ > Function fComboDoubleClick(stFormToOpen As String, > stFieldToFilter As String) > > > DoCmd.OpenForm stFormToOpen ' This line > works > 'The line below works when BroadcastTypeID > is typed in Manually > 'Forms(stDocName).RecordsetClone.FindFirst > "[BroadcastTypeID ]=" & Me.ActiveControl > 'The line below fails whan I try and pass > the field name as a parameter > Forms(stDocName).RecordsetClone.FindFirst > " & stFieldToFilter & = " & Me.ActiveControl > > __________________________________________________ > _________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/acces sd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/acces sd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Thu Apr 10 01:39:48 2003 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 23:39:48 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Printing in Access 2002 References: Message-ID: <3E9511B4.3020608@shaw.ca> I also have had problems with Access not seeing Non Certifiable printer drivers from Win XP but not all the time. Even though they appear in the list of printers from the control panel Here is some code I use to reset the default printer '************************ ' Printer setup module ' Set/retrieves the default printer - originaly for VB6 ' Works for A97/a2000 ' This is minimal code. ' Albert D.Kallal - 01/13/2002 ' Rev history: Date Who notes ' 01/13/2002 Albert D. kallal ' ' I wrote this after looking at some the code on the net. Some of the routines ' to change a printer were approaching 500 + of lines of code. Just the printer ' constant defs was over 100 lines of code! Yikes! ' I use only TWO API's (the 3rd one is optional). There is a total of only 4 functions! ' KISS is the word. Keep it simple stupid. I don't care about device drivers, or the ' port number. All these routines just work with the simple printer name. If you do ' actually care about the device driver and port stuff..then use the one of many ' examples available on the net. Those other examples also deal with margins, orientation ' etc. ' ' You can paste this code into a module..and away you go ' '************************ ' How to use ' To get the default printer ' debug.print GetDefaultPrinter ' To set the default printer ' debug.print SetDefaultPrinter("HP Laser JET") ' above returns true if success. ' To get a list of printers suitable for a listbox, or combo ' debug.print GetPrinters ' ' that is all there folks! ' ' Thus, when printing a report, you can: ' ' 1) save the default printer into a string ' strCurrentPtr = GetDefaultPrinter ' 2) switch to your report printer ' SetDefaultPrinter strReportsPtr ' 3) print report ' 4) switch back to the default printer ' SetDefaultPrinter strCurrentPtr ' Private Const HWND_BROADCAST As Long = &HFFFF& Private Const WM_WININICHANGE As Long = &H1A ' The following code allows one to read, and write to the WIN.INI files ' In win 2000 the printer settings are actually in the registry. However, windows ' handles this correctly ' Private Declare Function GetProfileString Lib "kernel32" _ Alias "GetProfileStringA" _ (ByVal lpAppName As String, _ ByVal lpKeyName As String, _ ByVal lpDefault As String, _ ByVal lpReturnedString As String, _ ByVal nSize As Long) As Long Private Declare Function WriteProfileString Lib "kernel32" _ Alias "WriteProfileStringA" _ (ByVal lpszSection As String, _ ByVal lpszKeyName As String, _ ByVal lpszString As String) As Long Private Declare Function SendMessage Lib "user32" _ Alias "SendMessageA" _ (ByVal hwnd As Long, _ ByVal wMsg As Long, _ ByVal wParam As Long, _ lparam As Any) As Long Private Function fstrDField(mytext As String, delim As String, groupnum As Integer) As String ' this is a standard delimiter routine that every developer I know has. ' This routine has a million uses. This routine is great for splitting up ' data fields, or sending multiple parms to a openargs of a form ' ' Parms are ' mytext - a delimited string ' delim - our delimiter (usually a , or / or a space) ' groupnum - which of the delimited values to return ' Dim startpos As Integer, endpos As Integer Dim groupptr As Integer, chptr As Integer chptr = 1 startpos = 0 For groupptr = 1 To groupnum - 1 chptr = InStr(chptr, mytext, delim) If chptr = 0 Then fstrDField = "" Exit Function Else chptr = chptr + 1 End If Next groupptr startpos = chptr endpos = InStr(startpos + 1, mytext, delim) If endpos = 0 Then endpos = Len(mytext) + 1 End If fstrDField = Mid$(mytext, startpos, endpos - startpos) End Function Function SetDefaultPrinter(strPrinterName As String) As Boolean Dim strDeviceLine As String Dim strBuffer As String Dim lngbuf As Long ' get the full device string ' strBuffer = Space(1024) lngbuf = GetProfileString("PrinterPorts", strPrinterName, "", strBuffer, Len(strBuffer)) 'Write out this new printer information in ' WIN.INI file for DEVICE item If lngbuf > 0 Then strDeviceLine = strPrinterName & "," & _ fstrDField(strBuffer, Chr(0), 1) & "," & _ fstrDField(strBuffer, Chr(0), 2) Call WriteProfileString("windows", "Device", strDeviceLine) SetDefaultPrinter = True ' Below is optional, and should be done. It updates the existing windows ' so the "default" printer icon changes. If you don't do the below..then ' you will often see more than one printer as the default! The reason *not* ' to do the SendMessage is that many open applications will now sense the change ' in printer. I vote to leave it in..but your case you might not want this. ' Call SendMessage(HWND_BROADCAST, WM_WININICHANGE, 0, ByVal "windows") Else SetDefaultPrinter = False End If End Function Function GetDefaultPrinter() As String Dim strDefault As String Dim lngbuf As Long strDefault = String(255, Chr(0)) lngbuf = GetProfileString("Windows", "Device", "", strDefault, Len(strDefault)) If lngbuf > 0 Then GetDefaultPrinter = fstrDField(strDefault, ",", 1) Else GetDefaultPrinter = "" End If End Function Function GetPrinters() As String ' this routine returns a list of printers, separated by ' a ";", and thus the results are suitable for stuffing into a combo box Dim strBuffer As String Dim strOnePtr As String Dim intPos As Integer Dim lngChars As Long strBuffer = Space(2048) lngChars = GetProfileString("PrinterPorts", vbNullString, "", strBuffer, Len(strBuffer)) If lngChars > 0 Then intPos = InStr(strBuffer, Chr(0)) Do While intPos > 1 strOnePtr = Left(strBuffer, intPos - 1) strBuffer = Mid(strBuffer, intPos + 1) If GetPrinters <> "" Then GetPrinters = GetPrinters & ";" GetPrinters = GetPrinters & strOnePtr intPos = InStr(strBuffer, Chr(0)) Loop Else GetPrinters = "" End If End Function Public Function testPrintersGet() Debug.Print GetDefaultPrinter Debug.Print GetPrinters End Function In a form just stick up a combo box to select or reset default printer. Private Sub Combo0_AfterUpdate() SetDefaultPrinter (Me.Combo0) End Sub Private Sub Form_Load() Me.Combo0.RowSource = GetPrinters Me.Combo0 = GetDefaultPrinter End Sub Liz Doering wrote: > Dear List, > > We have a client (Bill) who sells a little application to local city > governments and comes to us about once a year for tweaks and > upgrades. Today he has spent the whole day at one of his cities, > trying to get his app to run on their WinXP/Office XP machines. (This > app was originally developed in 97 and converted to 2000). Everything > is fine except that reports do not run. Hitting the Preview button > causes absolutely nothing to happen. > > I was thinking that this was a problem with the app, or the conversion > to Access 2002, but I don't think so now. I had Bill create a > completely new .mdb, create one table with four fields: ID, Name, > Address, City. The ID field is an autonumber PK, the rest are text. > Bill used the report wizard to create one simple report from this > table, and received the message that "The wizard is unable to create > your report". Creating a report without the wizard produced a little > more information, a complaint about a lack of default printer. (I > don't have the exact text of the error message, and I can't get it, > because Bill has given up for the day and gone home.) > > We double-checked for a default printer, which there was, but in the > hopes of changing something, we deleted all printers and re-installed > one, setting that to the default. The printer will act correctly as > the default printer for Word, Excel, etc. > > Rebooting hasn't helped. Nor has a re-install of Access. > > Does anybody know what is going on here? > > Thanks so much, > > > Liz Doering > Symphony Information Services > liz at symphonyinfo.com > www.symphonyinfo.com > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From gustav at cactus.dk Thu Apr 10 03:03:27 2003 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 10:03:27 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Access crashing on Citrix In-Reply-To: <002601c2fed0$999f45c0$0300000a@PASCAL> References: <028701c2fec8$00351bb0$0300000a@PASCAL> <7540788390.20030409200933@cactus.dk> <002601c2fed0$999f45c0$0300000a@PASCAL> Message-ID: <504062181.20030410100327@cactus.dk> Hi Mark In that case I would try moving these tables to a temporary file recreated at each session for each user. It really isn't that difficult - code or links to code have been published at the list earlier. I have used the technique once for an app that does a lot of importing and validation and the combination of a write-protected app and temporary datafiles which never bloat or get corrupted is great. /gustav > It does make temporary tables > Mark Whittinghill > Symphony Information Services > 612-333-1311 > mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gustav Brock" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 12:09 PM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access crashing on Citrix >> Hi Mark >> >> Have you tried write-protecting the application file or running it off >> a directory where the users have read-only rights only? >> >> This, of course, requires that your app doesn't write to itself by, >> say, creating temporary queries. >> >> /gustav >> >> >> > We have a client who is using an Access 2000 db on Citrix. The Citrix >> > environment is NT 4, Service pack 6A. I don't understand all the >> > specifics, >> > but the hoster has two load balanced servers, I'll call A and B. The >> > last >> > couple months, we have been seeing people unable to open Access, usually >> > in the afternoon. >> >> > 1. All access apps are affected, not just ours. A message will come up >> > saying that the file can't be found. Again, I don't know all the >> > specifics, >> > but the way the hoster installs Access it is like all users are sharing >> > a copy of the Access program. When one user's Access crashes, >> > all do. We haven't yet been able to determine the point of the failure. From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk Thu Apr 10 03:13:46 2003 From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 09:13:46 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Announcement: New Moderator Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318803956752@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk> Dear all There have been a couple of incidents recently where a list member has sought moderator help and had to wait quite a while for a response. Therefore, we thought it would be a good idea to recruit an extra moderator for AccessD. I'd like you all to join me in welcoming Bryan Carbonnell to the ranks of the AccessD moderators. Please afford him the same respect you do the rest of us. (On second thoughts...) In all seriousness, this list requires very little moderation, but we are all very keen to get the balance exactly right, and that makes the job a difficult one. So well done Bryan for volunteering. Roz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tracy at ak.planet.gen.nz Thu Apr 10 03:21:57 2003 From: tracy at ak.planet.gen.nz (Tracy) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 20:21:57 +1200 Subject: [AccessD] Compact on close via code References: <028701c2fec8$00351bb0$0300000a@PASCAL> <7540788390.20030409200933@cactus.dk> <002601c2fed0$999f45c0$0300000a@PASCAL> <504062181.20030410100327@cactus.dk> Message-ID: <000501c2ff3a$41b06320$904114ca@Notebook> Hi Listers I know theres a checkbox for compacting on close, but is there a code equivalent that can be put into an MDE file, my users have the runtime version of Access 2000, all bypassing of the startup options are disabled, so I need to put code into the close procedure of the mde. Can anybody help ? And also it must be without user intervention as happens when the compact on close checkbox is checked. Thanks Tracy From markH at bitgen.co.uk Thu Apr 10 03:47:24 2003 From: markH at bitgen.co.uk (MarkH) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 09:47:24 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Limit entry in unbound forms Message-ID: <003301c2ff3d$cf0f75a0$8d8f87d9@laptop> Hello all... I am working with class modules and unbound forms in XP. What I need to do is limit the length of text a user can enter. I would like to do this as they type so that its not possible to add text beyond whats allowed. No warning necessary, just stop at the limit. I intend to store the max length allowed as properties in the class so that the frontend can retrive them without having to hard code them. I did have a function that could do this but I am away from the office for a few days so don't have it with me :o( (and I didn't write it in the first place so have no memory of how it was done) Any help greatly appreciated... Also, if theres a better way to do it I'd very much like to hear that too. Cheers Mark --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 From gustav at cactus.dk Thu Apr 10 05:04:12 2003 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 12:04:12 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Printing in Access 2002 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <411307519.20030410120412@cactus.dk> Hi Liz Interesting. Out of curiosity, could you get from Bill which printer driver didn't work and which did? Also, for Bill, remember that and old proven LaserJet printer driver will print to most of the new fancy models but, of course, only with the features of the old driver. Quite often an old driver, native to Windows, prints faster. /gustav > Thanks, everyone for your ideas. I've just gotten an update from Bill: > Out of desperation and fear of the client, Bill tried setting the default to > another printer--not the client's preferred one, but just any one, to see if > any other difference could be made. And it worked! So from what you all > have said, XP didn't like the driver for the original printer as well as it > likes the driver for this one. Unfortunately, the client must now choose > his preferred printer each time he prints, but he appears to be OK with > that. > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of William Hindman > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 2:24 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Printing in Access 2002 > ...having just gone through a week long exercise with a brand new $18K > Minolta Printer/Copier at a client, I can vouchsafe that lots of XP drivers > are buggy ... had to actually install a W2K laptop and print from it to get > critical work out the door ...the only thing that I can tell you is that if > the printer driver is missing the MS Certified for Windows XP logo there is > probably a reason for it besides the cost :((((((( From gustav at cactus.dk Thu Apr 10 05:34:11 2003 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 12:34:11 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Dates again- aarrgghh In-Reply-To: <004101c2fedd$68625ee0$0300000a@PASCAL> References: <004101c2fedd$68625ee0$0300000a@PASCAL> Message-ID: <8713106716.20030410123411@cactus.dk> Hi Mark > The hobbits have a calendar like that. They're pretty practical folk. :-) And banks too. A banking month is 30 days. Don't know how pretty the bankers are but practical indeed. About renaming the months to Unoary, Duoary, Trioary etc. I'm not so sure ... even bankers have learned to live with the old Roman (now offset) naming rule. /gustav >> You want logic? You sure ask for a lot! If you wanted a logical >> dating system, then you would be pushing for something like all months >> being 30 days long with a four or five day holiday at the end/beginning >> of the year and the names of the months matching their month numbers. From Lembit.Soobik at t-online.de Thu Apr 10 06:15:18 2003 From: Lembit.Soobik at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 13:15:18 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! References: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82646@main2.marlow.com> Message-ID: <137301c2ff52$78726800$0300a8c0@S856> statistically you must have had enough bad luck now to claim only good luck for the next 20 years. I wish you the best, and thank you for all your efforts Lembit Lembit Soobik ----- Original Message ----- From: "Drew Wutka" To: Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 4:25 AM Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! > Okay, follow this evidence of the curse. > > I initially built and hosted the archives on my work machine. In early > January of this year, I moved the entire archives to my home machine. That > was on a weekend, and that Thursday (so 4 days later) my DSL provider (IP > Communications....who my ISP was leasing my DSL through) went bankrupt and > just switched off their network. It took close to a month to get my DSL > back up and running. When my DSL finally came back up, so I could once > again 'host' the archives, I had them online, and had even built the index > portion (just didn't have the search using that technology yet). Two days > after getting my DSL back online (with SBC as the new DSL provider...through > my normal ISP), my wife decided to move us to a new apartment (300 feet > away), so I had to move my phone AND DSL (however I cancelled with my ISP, > and went with SBC directly, which took close to a month to get that to go > through....go figure). So mid March I finally had DSL again, in my new > apartment. Two weeks ago I 'rebuilt' my website (actually it's blank, just > a new theme and menus......), and last week I began putting the index > capability into the search pages. I announced their existence and > availability Monday night. This morning (Wednesday around 12:30 am EST), > our apartment building caught on fire. 3 of the 4 top apartments are > completely gutted by the fire. I am/was in the bottom apartment in the > middle of the three 'gutted' ones. My apartment has a little fire damage, > but a LOT of smoke and water damage. > > Thus, the archives are offline, once again! ARG, I swear they are cursed. > However, there is a silver lining. The complex we were leasing with do not > have another apartment of the same size for us. However, just down the > street there is a brand new complex (with a sprinkler system and firewalls > in and around all of the apartments...go figure...), which is offering a > similar sized apartment, for about the same price, however water and cable > are included, High speed internet is available for less then DSL (and I can > get a static IP), not too mention free membership to their Golf club (course > and club house). It's beautiful, and we already have a deposit down on an > apartment. So, if all goes well, I'll have the archives up again in a week > or so, otherwise I've been given 'permission' to move them back to work > here, until I get my home system up and running. > > I am at work now, and have brought my home 'server' in with me (first thing > I grabbed from my apartment, when a fireperson let me go in real > quick)....... Everyone wish me luck, because in an hour or so, I am > going to bravely clean up the box, and see if it turns on! fingers crossed!> > > Drew (Who is currently chain smoking and taking several Tylenol every four > hours.....) > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From Lembit.Soobik at t-online.de Thu Apr 10 06:21:48 2003 From: Lembit.Soobik at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 13:21:48 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Announcement: New Moderator References: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318803956752@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk> Message-ID: <139f01c2ff53$60d97e30$0300a8c0@S856> Announcement: New Moderatorthank you, Bryan, for helping as moderator. For those who do not yet know, Bryan is also an active member in the BEU development team. Lembit Lembit Soobik Dear all There have been a couple of incidents recently where a list member has sought moderator help and had to wait quite a while for a response. Therefore, we thought it would be a good idea to recruit an extra moderator for AccessD. I'd like you all to join me in welcoming Bryan Carbonnell to the ranks of the AccessD moderators. Please afford him the same respect you do the rest of us. (On second thoughts...) In all seriousness, this list requires very little moderation, but we are all very keen to get the balance exactly right, and that makes the job a difficult one. So well done Bryan for volunteering. Roz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 10 06:28:24 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 07:28:24 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! References: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82646@main2.marlow.com> <002e01c2ff17$8bd52e90$3c619a89@DDICK> Message-ID: <004a01c2ff54$4c5f1270$6101a8c0@amd2k512> "It beats the ole 'dog ate my homework' excuse by miles." Darren ...my first thought exactly!!!!!! :)))))) ...good luck Drew ...on your apartment as well as the server ...bet your wife was thrilled with your priority in recovery choices! :))) William Hindman "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren DICK" To: Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 12:13 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! > What an awesome tale. It beats the ole 'dog ate my > homework' excuse by miles. :-) > Seriously, I do hope everyone is OK and your pewta > too. > Best of luck dude > > > DD > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Drew Wutka" > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 12:25 PM > Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! > > > > Okay, follow this evidence of the curse. > > > > I initially built and hosted the archives on my > work machine. In early > > January of this year, I moved the entire > archives to my home machine. That > > was on a weekend, and that Thursday (so 4 days > later) my DSL provider (IP > > Communications....who my ISP was leasing my DSL > through) went bankrupt and > > just switched off their network. It took close > to a month to get my DSL > > back up and running. When my DSL finally came > back up, so I could once > > again 'host' the archives, I had them online, > and had even built the index > > portion (just didn't have the search using that > technology yet). Two days > > after getting my DSL back online (with SBC as > the new DSL provider...through > > my normal ISP), my wife decided to move us to a > new apartment (300 feet > > away), so I had to move my phone AND DSL > (however I cancelled with my ISP, > > and went with SBC directly, which took close to > a month to get that to go > > through....go figure). So mid March I finally > had DSL again, in my new > > apartment. Two weeks ago I 'rebuilt' my website > (actually it's blank, just > > a new theme and menus......), and last week I > began putting the index > > capability into the search pages. I announced > their existence and > > availability Monday night. This morning > (Wednesday around 12:30 am EST), > > our apartment building caught on fire. 3 of the > 4 top apartments are > > completely gutted by the fire. I am/was in the > bottom apartment in the > > middle of the three 'gutted' ones. My apartment > has a little fire damage, > > but a LOT of smoke and water damage. > > > > Thus, the archives are offline, once again! ARG, > I swear they are cursed. > > However, there is a silver lining. The complex > we were leasing with do not > > have another apartment of the same size for us. > However, just down the > > street there is a brand new complex (with a > sprinkler system and firewalls > > in and around all of the apartments...go > figure...), which is offering a > > similar sized apartment, for about the same > price, however water and cable > > are included, High speed internet is available > for less then DSL (and I can > > get a static IP), not too mention free > membership to their Golf club (course > > and club house). It's beautiful, and we already > have a deposit down on an > > apartment. So, if all goes well, I'll have the > archives up again in a week > > or so, otherwise I've been given 'permission' to > move them back to work > > here, until I get my home system up and running. > > > > I am at work now, and have brought my home > 'server' in with me (first thing > > I grabbed from my apartment, when a fireperson > let me go in real > > quick)....... Everyone wish me luck, > because in an hour or so, I am > > going to bravely clean up the box, and see if it > turns on! > fingers crossed!> > > > > Drew (Who is currently chain smoking and taking > several Tylenol every four > > hours.....) > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/acces > sd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From gustav at cactus.dk Thu Apr 10 06:35:50 2003 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 13:35:50 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] OT StarOffice In-Reply-To: <019101c2fedc$dea746c0$6101a8c0@amd2k512> References: <1049909180.3e9457bc77efa@hosea.qub.ac.uk><1049912749.26548.50.camel@sgsax-th4022c> <1049913718.3e946976b3732@hosea.qub.ac.uk> <1049915226.27231.67.camel@sgsax-th4022c> <019101c2fedc$dea746c0$6101a8c0@amd2k512> Message-ID: <16616805605.20030410133550@cactus.dk> Hi William, Martin and Seth > ...its Adabase D from Software AG ...trouble is that afaik it only supports > database functions in the other apps like a word merge or spreadsheet tables > ...there is no standalone product interface, front-end, or VBA like program > support ...which means its not even close to MySQL as a db development > environment, much less Access :( >> The database has always been seperate, not sure why, other than >> tradition. The name of the database app is Adabase D. If you can find >> that somewhere then you're home free. I think I have a copy of it, but >> the uni here also has a software contract with Sun. I will say that 6.0 >> was a huge improvement over 5.2, mostly because 5.2 had a massive >> integrated desktop environment that you had to use in order to use the >> suite. 6.0 got rid of that garbage entirely. I think it's much nicer >> now. In StarOffice 5 Adabas D was included as a separate install. Adabas D was nothing more than an engine (like MySQL and PostgreSQL) not a development tool like Access. I haven't had the time to play with StarOffice 6 but as I've understood it, Adabas D was pulled from the package because no one used it. Instead a "Starbase" is added which from the description sounds like something like "a beginner's Approach" (anybody please correct me). Adabas D is in family with SAP DB which, too, is an engine only but a powerful one (with some admin and sys tools) and not a development tool. It is crossplatform an regarding capabilities, capacity and features much more like Oracle and DB2 as it can run the huge SAP R/3 application. It is, however, totally free even for commercial applications, but even though it is not a spin-off from SAP but fully supported via an excellent mail list run by SAP. Everything is on-line an worth a look if you need an engine for a large database (limit is 32TB): http://www.sapdb.org/ /gustav From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 10 06:43:34 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 07:43:34 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT StarOffice References: <1049909180.3e9457bc77efa@hosea.qub.ac.uk><1049912749.26548.50.camel@sgsax-th4022c><1049913718.3e946976b3732@hosea.qub.ac.uk><1049915226.27231.67.camel@sgsax-th4022c><019101c2fedc$dea746c0$6101a8c0@amd2k512> <16616805605.20030410133550@cactus.dk> Message-ID: <006f01c2ff56$6af35f00$6101a8c0@amd2k512> ...hhhmmm ...have not checked today gustav but iirc it was Starbase that was pulled and Adabas D that was added ...at least that's what I recall when I looked at the specs for 6 ...I've not tried 6 myself because I'm not interested in any office replacement suite without an Access comparable db development capability :( William Hindman "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 7:35 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT StarOffice > Hi William, Martin and Seth > > > ...its Adabase D from Software AG ...trouble is that afaik it only supports > > database functions in the other apps like a word merge or spreadsheet tables > > ...there is no standalone product interface, front-end, or VBA like program > > support ...which means its not even close to MySQL as a db development > > environment, much less Access :( > > >> The database has always been seperate, not sure why, other than > >> tradition. The name of the database app is Adabase D. If you can find > >> that somewhere then you're home free. I think I have a copy of it, but > >> the uni here also has a software contract with Sun. I will say that 6.0 > >> was a huge improvement over 5.2, mostly because 5.2 had a massive > >> integrated desktop environment that you had to use in order to use the > >> suite. 6.0 got rid of that garbage entirely. I think it's much nicer > >> now. > > In StarOffice 5 Adabas D was included as a separate install. Adabas D > was nothing more than an engine (like MySQL and PostgreSQL) not a > development tool like Access. > > I haven't had the time to play with StarOffice 6 but as I've > understood it, Adabas D was pulled from the package because no one > used it. Instead a "Starbase" is added which from the description > sounds like something like "a beginner's Approach" (anybody please > correct me). > > Adabas D is in family with SAP DB which, too, is an engine only but a > powerful one (with some admin and sys tools) and not a development > tool. It is crossplatform an regarding capabilities, capacity and > features much more like Oracle and DB2 as it can run the huge SAP R/3 > application. It is, however, totally free even for commercial > applications, but even though it is not a spin-off from SAP but fully > supported via an excellent mail list run by SAP. > > Everything is on-line an worth a look if you need an engine for a > large database (limit is 32TB): > > http://www.sapdb.org/ > > /gustav > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From tswisher at GFNET.com Thu Apr 10 07:08:40 2003 From: tswisher at GFNET.com (Swisher, Timothy B.) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 08:08:40 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Compact on close via code Message-ID: <076FC7A51D07D411BC02009027A1B45101ED3059@SEESAR3.corporate.gannettfleming.com> Tracy, this should work. Application.SetOption "Auto Compact", blnOption I use this in a proc and pass either true or false to it. HTH Tim -----Original Message----- From: Tracy [mailto:tracy at ak.planet.gen.nz] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 4:22 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Compact on close via code Hi Listers I know theres a checkbox for compacting on close, but is there a code equivalent that can be put into an MDE file, my users have the runtime version of Access 2000, all bypassing of the startup options are disabled, so I need to put code into the close procedure of the mde. Can anybody help ? And also it must be without user intervention as happens when the compact on close checkbox is checked. Thanks Tracy _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From JSkolits at CorporateDataDesign.com Thu Apr 10 07:20:26 2003 From: JSkolits at CorporateDataDesign.com (John Skolits) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 08:20:26 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Compact on close via code In-Reply-To: <000501c2ff3a$41b06320$904114ca@Notebook> Message-ID: You can find out what the checkbox is set to using the following.: Application.GetOption("Auto Compact") To set the flag on or off, use: Application.SetOption "Auto Compact", True Application.SetOption "Auto Compact", False There is another argument for the SetOption function called "Auto Compact Percentage" but I've never seen it work. You can get info if you search the online help for 'Compact', and select "Set Options from Visual Basic" John -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Tracy Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 4:22 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Compact on close via code Hi Listers I know theres a checkbox for compacting on close, but is there a code equivalent that can be put into an MDE file, my users have the runtime version of Access 2000, all bypassing of the startup options are disabled, so I need to put code into the close procedure of the mde. Can anybody help ? And also it must be without user intervention as happens when the compact on close checkbox is checked. Thanks Tracy _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Thu Apr 10 07:29:22 2003 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 22:29:22 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! In-Reply-To: <137301c2ff52$78726800$0300a8c0@S856> Message-ID: <3E95F042.25952.191A3CC@localhost> On 10 Apr 2003 at 13:15, Lembit Soobik wrote: > statistically you must have had enough bad luck now to claim only good > luck for the next 20 years. I wish you the best, and thank you for all > your efforts Lembit > Ah, the good old fallacy of the "law of averages" :-) I hate to worry you Drew, but the odds on your new place burning down are just as high as the odds on the last one - and look what happened to that :-) Still -we will all keep our fingers crossed for you :-) -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. From PBudge at cbsol.com Thu Apr 10 07:44:33 2003 From: PBudge at cbsol.com (PBudge at cbsol.com) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 07:44:33 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! Message-ID: My fingers are dully crossed. Good luck Drew! Glad all the PEOPLE made it out ok too! ;-) Pamela G. Budge PBudge at cbsol.com Creative Business Solutions Drew Wutka To: "'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com'" Sent by: cc: accessd-bounces at databasea Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! dvisors.com 04/09/2003 09:25 PM Please respond to accessd Okay, follow this evidence of the curse. I initially built and hosted the archives on my work machine. In early January of this year, I moved the entire archives to my home machine. That was on a weekend, and that Thursday (so 4 days later) my DSL provider (IP Communications....who my ISP was leasing my DSL through) went bankrupt and just switched off their network. It took close to a month to get my DSL back up and running. When my DSL finally came back up, so I could once again 'host' the archives, I had them online, and had even built the index portion (just didn't have the search using that technology yet). Two days after getting my DSL back online (with SBC as the new DSL provider...through my normal ISP), my wife decided to move us to a new apartment (300 feet away), so I had to move my phone AND DSL (however I cancelled with my ISP, and went with SBC directly, which took close to a month to get that to go through....go figure). So mid March I finally had DSL again, in my new apartment. Two weeks ago I 'rebuilt' my website (actually it's blank, just a new theme and menus......), and last week I began putting the index capability into the search pages. I announced their existence and availability Monday night. This morning (Wednesday around 12:30 am EST), our apartment building caught on fire. 3 of the 4 top apartments are completely gutted by the fire. I am/was in the bottom apartment in the middle of the three 'gutted' ones. My apartment has a little fire damage, but a LOT of smoke and water damage. Thus, the archives are offline, once again! ARG, I swear they are cursed. However, there is a silver lining. The complex we were leasing with do not have another apartment of the same size for us. However, just down the street there is a brand new complex (with a sprinkler system and firewalls in and around all of the apartments...go figure...), which is offering a similar sized apartment, for about the same price, however water and cable are included, High speed internet is available for less then DSL (and I can get a static IP), not too mention free membership to their Golf club (course and club house). It's beautiful, and we already have a deposit down on an apartment. So, if all goes well, I'll have the archives up again in a week or so, otherwise I've been given 'permission' to move them back to work here, until I get my home system up and running. I am at work now, and have brought my home 'server' in with me (first thing I grabbed from my apartment, when a fireperson let me go in real quick)....... Everyone wish me luck, because in an hour or so, I am going to bravely clean up the box, and see if it turns on! Drew (Who is currently chain smoking and taking several Tylenol every four hours.....) _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From garykjos at hotmail.com Thu Apr 10 07:57:41 2003 From: garykjos at hotmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 07:57:41 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! Message-ID: Kinda funny that you are chain smoking after the smoke damage. :-) Now that you have seen the server come back up perhaps your stress level will be reduced? Glad to hear that you are all safe and that you will end up with what sounds like a better place to live after it all is done. And with a golf membership too. Thanks so much for all your efforts to build and host the archives Drew. Gary Kjos garykjos at hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 10 08:03:19 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 09:03:19 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Limit entry in unbound forms References: <003301c2ff3d$cf0f75a0$8d8f87d9@laptop> Message-ID: <002401c2ff61$8f48d1e0$6101a8c0@amd2k512> Mark ...try www.lebans.com ...he has sample code for implementing this functionality in a number of ways ...HTH :) William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: "MarkH" To: Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 4:47 AM Subject: [AccessD] Limit entry in unbound forms > Hello all... > > I am working with class modules and unbound forms in XP. What I need to > do is limit the length of text a user can enter. I would like to do this > as they type so that its not possible to add text beyond whats allowed. > No warning necessary, just stop at the limit. > > I intend to store the max length allowed as properties in the class so > that the frontend can retrive them without having to hard code them. I > did have a function that could do this but I am away from the office for > a few days so don't have it with me :o( (and I didn't write it in the > first place so have no memory of how it was done) > > Any help greatly appreciated... Also, if theres a better way to do it > I'd very much like to hear that too. > > Cheers > > Mark > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 10 08:06:46 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 09:06:46 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! References: Message-ID: <002b01c2ff62$0ac73320$6101a8c0@amd2k512> "My fingers are dully crossed" Pamela ...hhhmmm ...too much keyboarding wore the edges off eh? :) William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! > > My fingers are dully crossed. Good luck Drew! Glad all the PEOPLE made it > out ok too! ;-) > > Pamela G. Budge > PBudge at cbsol.com > Creative Business Solutions > > > > Drew Wutka > To: "'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com'" > Sent by: cc: > accessd-bounces at databasea Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! > dvisors.com > > > 04/09/2003 09:25 PM > Please respond to accessd > > > > > > > Okay, follow this evidence of the curse. > > I initially built and hosted the archives on my work machine. In early > January of this year, I moved the entire archives to my home machine. That > was on a weekend, and that Thursday (so 4 days later) my DSL provider (IP > Communications....who my ISP was leasing my DSL through) went bankrupt and > just switched off their network. It took close to a month to get my DSL > back up and running. When my DSL finally came back up, so I could once > again 'host' the archives, I had them online, and had even built the index > portion (just didn't have the search using that technology yet). Two days > after getting my DSL back online (with SBC as the new DSL > provider...through > my normal ISP), my wife decided to move us to a new apartment (300 feet > away), so I had to move my phone AND DSL (however I cancelled with my ISP, > and went with SBC directly, which took close to a month to get that to go > through....go figure). So mid March I finally had DSL again, in my new > apartment. Two weeks ago I 'rebuilt' my website (actually it's blank, just > a new theme and menus......), and last week I began putting the index > capability into the search pages. I announced their existence and > availability Monday night. This morning (Wednesday around 12:30 am EST), > our apartment building caught on fire. 3 of the 4 top apartments are > completely gutted by the fire. I am/was in the bottom apartment in the > middle of the three 'gutted' ones. My apartment has a little fire damage, > but a LOT of smoke and water damage. > > Thus, the archives are offline, once again! ARG, I swear they are cursed. > However, there is a silver lining. The complex we were leasing with do not > have another apartment of the same size for us. However, just down the > street there is a brand new complex (with a sprinkler system and firewalls > in and around all of the apartments...go figure...), which is offering a > similar sized apartment, for about the same price, however water and cable > are included, High speed internet is available for less then DSL (and I can > get a static IP), not too mention free membership to their Golf club > (course > and club house). It's beautiful, and we already have a deposit down on an > apartment. So, if all goes well, I'll have the archives up again in a week > or so, otherwise I've been given 'permission' to move them back to work > here, until I get my home system up and running. > > I am at work now, and have brought my home 'server' in with me (first thing > I grabbed from my apartment, when a fireperson let me go in real > quick)....... Everyone wish me luck, because in an hour or so, I am > going to bravely clean up the box, and see if it turns on! fingers crossed!> > > Drew (Who is currently chain smoking and taking several Tylenol every four > hours.....) > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From artful at rogers.com Thu Apr 10 08:06:47 2003 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 09:06:47 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Debugging problem Message-ID: <000001c2ff62$0ad8bf50$8e01a8c0@Rock> I'm doing some work on a colleague's app and coming across something very weird. In a Form_Open event, there's a line to test the value of Faculty_ID and then make a decision based on it. The app crashes there and the error message is: Run time error 2427 You entered an expression that has no value Yet when I ask IsNull(Me.Faculty_ID) the answer is False. How can both things be true? I've seen this happen before but it was long ago and I don't remember how I fixed it. Ideas? TIA, Arthur From PBudge at cbsol.com Thu Apr 10 08:24:33 2003 From: PBudge at cbsol.com (PBudge at cbsol.com) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 08:24:33 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! Message-ID: Oh gaaawd. . . *hangs head* SORRY! Honestly, I've GOT to start drinking that coffee earlier. ;-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))) DULY crossed. There. Is that better? ;-))))))))))))))))))))) Pamela G. Budge PBudge at cbsol.com Creative Business Solutions "William Hindman" To: Sent by: cc: accessd-bounces at databasea Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! dvisors.com 04/10/2003 08:06 AM Please respond to accessd "My fingers are dully crossed" Pamela ...hhhmmm ...too much keyboarding wore the edges off eh? :) William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! > > My fingers are dully crossed. Good luck Drew! Glad all the PEOPLE made it > out ok too! ;-) > > Pamela G. Budge > PBudge at cbsol.com > Creative Business Solutions > > > > Drew Wutka > To: "'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com'" > Sent by: cc: > accessd-bounces at databasea Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! > dvisors.com > > > 04/09/2003 09:25 PM > Please respond to accessd > > > > > > > Okay, follow this evidence of the curse. > > I initially built and hosted the archives on my work machine. In early > January of this year, I moved the entire archives to my home machine. That > was on a weekend, and that Thursday (so 4 days later) my DSL provider (IP > Communications....who my ISP was leasing my DSL through) went bankrupt and > just switched off their network. It took close to a month to get my DSL > back up and running. When my DSL finally came back up, so I could once > again 'host' the archives, I had them online, and had even built the index > portion (just didn't have the search using that technology yet). Two days > after getting my DSL back online (with SBC as the new DSL > provider...through > my normal ISP), my wife decided to move us to a new apartment (300 feet > away), so I had to move my phone AND DSL (however I cancelled with my ISP, > and went with SBC directly, which took close to a month to get that to go > through....go figure). So mid March I finally had DSL again, in my new > apartment. Two weeks ago I 'rebuilt' my website (actually it's blank, just > a new theme and menus......), and last week I began putting the index > capability into the search pages. I announced their existence and > availability Monday night. This morning (Wednesday around 12:30 am EST), > our apartment building caught on fire. 3 of the 4 top apartments are > completely gutted by the fire. I am/was in the bottom apartment in the > middle of the three 'gutted' ones. My apartment has a little fire damage, > but a LOT of smoke and water damage. > > Thus, the archives are offline, once again! ARG, I swear they are cursed. > However, there is a silver lining. The complex we were leasing with do not > have another apartment of the same size for us. However, just down the > street there is a brand new complex (with a sprinkler system and firewalls > in and around all of the apartments...go figure...), which is offering a > similar sized apartment, for about the same price, however water and cable > are included, High speed internet is available for less then DSL (and I can > get a static IP), not too mention free membership to their Golf club > (course > and club house). It's beautiful, and we already have a deposit down on an > apartment. So, if all goes well, I'll have the archives up again in a week > or so, otherwise I've been given 'permission' to move them back to work > here, until I get my home system up and running. > > I am at work now, and have brought my home 'server' in with me (first thing > I grabbed from my apartment, when a fireperson let me go in real > quick)....... Everyone wish me luck, because in an hour or so, I am > going to bravely clean up the box, and see if it turns on! fingers crossed!> > > Drew (Who is currently chain smoking and taking several Tylenol every four > hours.....) > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Thu Apr 10 08:23:43 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 08:23:43 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Debugging problem Message-ID: Arthur, The controls on a form are not populated yet at OnOpen, try OnCurrent or OnActivate. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] Sent: Thursday 2003 Apr 10 08:07 To: AccessD Subject: [AccessD] Debugging problem I'm doing some work on a colleague's app and coming across something very weird. In a Form_Open event, there's a line to test the value of Faculty_ID and then make a decision based on it. The app crashes there and the error message is: Run time error 2427 You entered an expression that has no value Yet when I ask IsNull(Me.Faculty_ID) the answer is False. How can both things be true? I've seen this happen before but it was long ago and I don't remember how I fixed it. Ideas? TIA, Arthur From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Thu Apr 10 08:35:18 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 08:35:18 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! Message-ID: Pamela, You even dare face the computer before that first jolt of caffeine? Gawd, how brave of you! ----------------------- Drew, Sounds like you have had enough bad luck for a while. May you have good luck from now on! Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: PBudge at cbsol.com [mailto:PBudge at cbsol.com] Sent: Thursday 2003 Apr 10 08:25 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! Oh gaaawd. . . *hangs head* SORRY! Honestly, I've GOT to start drinking that coffee earlier. ;-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))) DULY crossed. There. Is that better? ;-))))))))))))))))))))) Pamela G. Budge PBudge at cbsol.com Creative Business Solutions "William Hindman" "My fingers are dully crossed" Pamela ...hhhmmm ...too much keyboarding wore the edges off eh? :) William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke From sgsax at ksu.edu Thu Apr 10 08:42:48 2003 From: sgsax at ksu.edu (Seth Galitzer) Date: 10 Apr 2003 08:42:48 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT StarOffice In-Reply-To: <006f01c2ff56$6af35f00$6101a8c0@amd2k512> References: <1049909180.3e9457b c77efa@hosea.qub.ac.uk><1049912749.26548.50.camel@sgsax-th4022c><1049913718. 3e946976b3732@hosea.qub.ac.uk><1049915226.27231.67.camel@sgsax-th4022c><0191 01c2fedc$dea746c0$6101a8c0@amd2k512> <16616805605.20030410133550@cactus.dk> <006f01c2ff56$6af35f00$6101a8c0@amd2k512> Message-ID: <1049982168.29139.17.camel@sgsax-th4022c> William, So what's wrong with a mix-and-match approach? It's my mantra: use the best tool for the job. If you find the tools included with StarOffice to be adequate, but still want to use Access, then do so. Last I checked, you could still by each of the Office products seperately. You can even save a few bucks. SRP MS Office XP Pro: $579 SRP MS Access 2002: $339 SRP StarOffice 6.0: $75.95 Price Savings: $164.05 Which should almost be enough to buy yourself a copy of WordPerfect (upgrade) to go with it. :) Buy all three, collect the full set! :) Seth On Thu, 2003-04-10 at 06:43, William Hindman wrote: > ...hhhmmm ...have not checked today gustav but iirc it was Starbase that was > pulled and Adabas D that was added ...at least that's what I recall when I > looked at the specs for 6 ...I've not tried 6 myself because I'm not > interested in any office replacement suite without an Access comparable db > development capability :( > > William Hindman -- Seth Galitzer sgsax at ksu.edu Computing Specialist http://puma.agron.ksu.edu/~sgsax Dept. of Plant Pathology Kansas State University From jimdettman at earthlink.net Thu Apr 10 08:47:36 2003 From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 09:47:36 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Debugging problem In-Reply-To: <000001c2ff62$0ad8bf50$8e01a8c0@Rock> Message-ID: Arthur, As Charles said, in the OnOpen controls are being created so you need to move the code. Although I would not place code in the OnCurrent, but rather OnLoad. At that point, all controls have been created. Note to that you can still do this in OnOpen if you'd like by placing a Me.Repaint just before the control check. This will force Access to finish creating the controls before continuing. Jim Dettman President, Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc. (315) 699-3443 jimdettman at earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 9:07 AM To: AccessD Subject: [AccessD] Debugging problem I'm doing some work on a colleague's app and coming across something very weird. In a Form_Open event, there's a line to test the value of Faculty_ID and then make a decision based on it. The app crashes there and the error message is: Run time error 2427 You entered an expression that has no value Yet when I ask IsNull(Me.Faculty_ID) the answer is False. How can both things be true? I've seen this happen before but it was long ago and I don't remember how I fixed it. Ideas? TIA, Arthur _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Thu Apr 10 08:50:55 2003 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 15:50:55 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Debugging problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <18424910689.20030410155055@cactus.dk> Hi Arthur Try moving your code to Form_Load. /gustav > The controls on a form are not populated yet at OnOpen, try OnCurrent or > OnActivate. > Charles Wortz --- > I'm doing some work on a colleague's app and coming across something > very weird. In a Form_Open event, there's a line to test the value of > Faculty_ID and then make a decision based on it. The app crashes there > and the error message is: > Run time error 2427 > You entered an expression that has no value > Yet when I ask IsNull(Me.Faculty_ID) the answer is False. > How can both things be true? From PBudge at cbsol.com Thu Apr 10 09:01:11 2003 From: PBudge at cbsol.com (PBudge at cbsol.com) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 09:01:11 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! Message-ID: Worse, I DRIVE before that first jolt of caffeine and even leaving before 7, traffic is miserable! ;-))))))) Pamela G. Budge PBudge at cbsol.com Creative Business Solutions "Wortz, Charles" To: Sent by: cc: accessd-bounces at databasea Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! dvisors.com 04/10/2003 08:35 AM Please respond to accessd Pamela, You even dare face the computer before that first jolt of caffeine? Gawd, how brave of you! ----------------------- Drew, Sounds like you have had enough bad luck for a while. May you have good luck from now on! Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: PBudge at cbsol.com [mailto:PBudge at cbsol.com] Sent: Thursday 2003 Apr 10 08:25 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! Oh gaaawd. . . *hangs head* SORRY! Honestly, I've GOT to start drinking that coffee earlier. ;-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))) DULY crossed. There. Is that better? ;-))))))))))))))))))))) Pamela G. Budge PBudge at cbsol.com Creative Business Solutions "William Hindman" "My fingers are dully crossed" Pamela ...hhhmmm ...too much keyboarding wore the edges off eh? :) William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 10 09:25:40 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 10:25:40 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT StarOffice Message-ID: <006e01c2ff6d$10441290$6101a8c0@amd2k512> ...lol ...knew that would be your response :) ...but I do far to much db integration with other MSOffice apps to ever try marrying Access with StarOffice apps ...no matter how good StarOffice or OpenOffice gets, until it makes such integration as developer/user friendly as MSOffice does, the economics are going to have to be much, much better than that to lure me ...there is no question that $600+ for MSOffice is high but neither is there any question that at my hourly development rate, a fully integrated, user friendly application will cost far less in MSOffice than the same product done in Star/OpenOffice, even using MSAccess. ...much as I'd like to see a viable competitor to MS Office drive the prices down, I just don't see it in the current Star/OpenOffice products ...the fact that its source code is open is by far its most attractive feature ...but until that means something in terms of real desktop productivity, it will not become a viable business product ...imnsho of course :) ...btw, what mailer are you using ...your header is coming all the way through in OE6 and the To: defaults to your address rather than accessd :( William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Seth Galitzer" To: "accessd" Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT StarOffice > c77efa at hosea.qub.ac.uk><1049912749.26548.50.camel at sgsax-th4022c><1049913718. > > 3e946976b3732 at hosea.qub.ac.uk><1049915226.27231.67.camel at sgsax-th4022c><0191 > 01c2fedc$dea746c0$6101a8c0 at amd2k512> > <16616805605.20030410133550 at cactus.dk> > <006f01c2ff56$6af35f00$6101a8c0 at amd2k512> > Content-Type: text/plain > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.5 > Date: 10 Apr 2003 08:42:48 -0500 > Message-Id: <1049982168.29139.17.camel at sgsax-th4022c> > Mime-Version: 1.0 > X-BeenThere: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 > Precedence: list > Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > List-Id: > List-Help: > List-Post: > List-Subscribe: , > > List-Archive: > List-Unsubscribe: , > > Sender: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > Errors-To: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > William, > > So what's wrong with a mix-and-match approach? It's my mantra: use the > best tool for the job. If you find the tools included with StarOffice > to be adequate, but still want to use Access, then do so. Last I > checked, you could still by each of the Office products seperately. You > can even save a few bucks. > > SRP MS Office XP Pro: $579 > > SRP MS Access 2002: $339 > SRP StarOffice 6.0: $75.95 > > Price Savings: $164.05 > > Which should almost be enough to buy yourself a copy of WordPerfect > (upgrade) to go with it. :) Buy all three, collect the full set! :) > > Seth > > On Thu, 2003-04-10 at 06:43, William Hindman wrote: > > ...hhhmmm ...have not checked today gustav but iirc it was Starbase that was > > pulled and Adabas D that was added ...at least that's what I recall when I > > looked at the specs for 6 ...I've not tried 6 myself because I'm not > > interested in any office replacement suite without an Access comparable db > > development capability :( > > > > William Hindman > > -- > Seth Galitzer sgsax at ksu.edu > Computing Specialist http://puma.agron.ksu.edu/~sgsax > Dept. of Plant Pathology > Kansas State University > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From tomadatn at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 10 09:32:19 2003 From: tomadatn at bellsouth.net (Tom Adams) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 09:32:19 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Enterprise Manager replacement ??? References: <000701c29fd9$ce375e90$b615010a@FHTAPIA> Message-ID: <002b01c2ff6d$ffae5b10$6400000a@dogbert2k> I'm working on a VB6 project with Sql 7 running on an NT 4 server. I don't like the limitations of the Enterprise Manager (eg. Won't show the schema or fields when using a Case statement, although it runs fine). Does anyone know of a replacement product - reasonably priced of course that would work properly with a Case statement. I've used Tiffany with Sql Server 6.5 and it was wonderful but I think it's about $1,000. Thanks - Tom From scott.marcus at ae.ge.com Thu Apr 10 09:56:17 2003 From: scott.marcus at ae.ge.com (Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting)) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 10:56:17 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT StarOffice Message-ID: <768A0EA6FF8CB34FA522978966E5D52E559D68@bwam02msx.ae.ge.com> William, <<...btw, what mailer are you using ...your header is coming all the way < < Scott Scroll down and take a look... -----Original Message----- From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 10:26 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT StarOffice ...lol ...knew that would be your response :) ...but I do far to much db integration with other MSOffice apps to ever try marrying Access with StarOffice apps ...no matter how good StarOffice or OpenOffice gets, until it makes such integration as developer/user friendly as MSOffice does, the economics are going to have to be much, much better than that to lure me ...there is no question that $600+ for MSOffice is high but neither is there any question that at my hourly development rate, a fully integrated, user friendly application will cost far less in MSOffice than the same product done in Star/OpenOffice, even using MSAccess. ...much as I'd like to see a viable competitor to MS Office drive the prices down, I just don't see it in the current Star/OpenOffice products ...the fact that its source code is open is by far its most attractive feature ...but until that means something in terms of real desktop productivity, it will not become a viable business product ...imnsho of course :) ...btw, what mailer are you using ...your header is coming all the way through in OE6 and the To: defaults to your address rather than accessd :( William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Seth Galitzer" To: "accessd" Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT StarOffice > c77efa at hosea.qub.ac.uk><1049912749.26548.50.camel at sgsax-th4022c><1049913718. > > 3e946976b3732 at hosea.qub.ac.uk><1049915226.27231.67.camel at sgsax-th4022c><0191 > 01c2fedc$dea746c0$6101a8c0 at amd2k512> > <16616805605.20030410133550 at cactus.dk> > <006f01c2ff56$6af35f00$6101a8c0 at amd2k512> > Content-Type: text/plain > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.5 > Date: 10 Apr 2003 08:42:48 -0500 > Message-Id: <1049982168.29139.17.camel at sgsax-th4022c> > Mime-Version: 1.0 > X-BeenThere: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 > Precedence: list > Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > List-Id: > List-Help: > List-Post: > List-Subscribe: , > > List-Archive: > List-Unsubscribe: , > > Sender: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > Errors-To: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > William, > > So what's wrong with a mix-and-match approach? It's my mantra: use the > best tool for the job. If you find the tools included with StarOffice > to be adequate, but still want to use Access, then do so. Last I > checked, you could still by each of the Office products seperately. You > can even save a few bucks. > > SRP MS Office XP Pro: $579 > > SRP MS Access 2002: $339 > SRP StarOffice 6.0: $75.95 > > Price Savings: $164.05 > > Which should almost be enough to buy yourself a copy of WordPerfect > (upgrade) to go with it. :) Buy all three, collect the full set! :) > > Seth > > On Thu, 2003-04-10 at 06:43, William Hindman wrote: > > ...hhhmmm ...have not checked today gustav but iirc it was Starbase that was > > pulled and Adabas D that was added ...at least that's what I recall when I > > looked at the specs for 6 ...I've not tried 6 myself because I'm not > > interested in any office replacement suite without an Access comparable db > > development capability :( > > > > William Hindman > > -- > Seth Galitzer sgsax at ksu.edu > Computing Specialist http://puma.agron.ksu.edu/~sgsax > Dept. of Plant Pathology > Kansas State University > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Thu Apr 10 10:05:32 2003 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 16:05:32 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] OT StarOffice In-Reply-To: <768A0EA6FF8CB34FA522978966E5D52E559D68@bwam02msx.ae.ge.com> Message-ID: <001301c2ff72$a23608c0$b274d0d5@andypc> It's not just William. I got it like that too. Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting) > Sent: 10 April 2003 15:56 > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT StarOffice > > > William, > > <<...btw, what mailer are you using ...your header is coming > all the way < address rather than accessd :( > > If you look below, you will see that it says that it did > default to accessd. It must be on your end, except that you > replied to it and it said "T0: accessd at databaseadvisors.com" > > <<----- Original Message ----- > < > < > > Scott > > Scroll down and take a look... > > -----Original Message----- > From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 10:26 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT StarOffice > > > ...lol ...knew that would be your response :) ...but I do far > to much db integration with other MSOffice apps to ever try > marrying Access with StarOffice apps ...no matter how good > StarOffice or OpenOffice gets, until it makes such > integration as developer/user friendly as MSOffice does, the > economics are going to have to be much, much better than that > to lure me ...there is no question that $600+ for MSOffice is > high but neither is there any question that at my hourly > development rate, a fully integrated, user friendly > application will cost far less in MSOffice than the same > product done in Star/OpenOffice, even using MSAccess. > > ...much as I'd like to see a viable competitor to MS Office > drive the prices down, I just don't see it in the current > Star/OpenOffice products ...the fact that its source code is > open is by far its most attractive feature ...but until that > means something in terms of real desktop productivity, it > will not become a viable business product ...imnsho of course :) > > ...btw, what mailer are you using ...your header is coming > all the way through in OE6 and the To: defaults to your > address rather than accessd :( > > William Hindman > "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do > nothing." Edmund Burke > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Seth Galitzer" > To: "accessd" > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 9:46 AM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT StarOffice > > > > > c77efa at hosea.qub.ac.uk><1049912749.26548.50.camel at sgsax-th4022 > c><1049913718. > > > > > 3e946976b3732 at hosea.qub.ac.uk><1049915226.27231.67.camel at sgsax > -th4022c><0191 > > 01c2fedc$dea746c0$6101a8c0 at amd2k512> > > <16616805605.20030410133550 at cactus.dk> > > <006f01c2ff56$6af35f00$6101a8c0 at amd2k512> > > Content-Type: text/plain > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.5 > > Date: 10 Apr 2003 08:42:48 -0500 > > Message-Id: <1049982168.29139.17.camel at sgsax-th4022c> > > Mime-Version: 1.0 > > X-BeenThere: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 > > Precedence: list > > Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > List-Id: > > List-Help: > > > List-Post: > > List-Subscribe: > > , > > > > List-Archive: > > List-Unsubscribe: > , > > > > Sender: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > Errors-To: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > > William, > > > > So what's wrong with a mix-and-match approach? It's my mantra: use > > the best tool for the job. If you find the tools included with > > StarOffice to be adequate, but still want to use Access, > then do so. > > Last I checked, you could still by each of the Office products > > seperately. You can even save a few bucks. > > > > SRP MS Office XP Pro: $579 > > > > SRP MS Access 2002: $339 > > SRP StarOffice 6.0: $75.95 > > > > Price Savings: $164.05 > > > > Which should almost be enough to buy yourself a copy of WordPerfect > > (upgrade) to go with it. :) Buy all three, collect the full set! :) > > > > Seth > > > > On Thu, 2003-04-10 at 06:43, William Hindman wrote: > > > ...hhhmmm ...have not checked today gustav but iirc it > was Starbase > > > that > was > > > pulled and Adabas D that was added ...at least that's > what I recall > > > when > I > > > looked at the specs for 6 ...I've not tried 6 myself > because I'm not > > > interested in any office replacement suite without an Access > > > comparable > db > > > development capability :( > > > > > > William Hindman > > > > -- > > Seth Galitzer sgsax at ksu.edu > > Computing Specialist http://puma.agron.ksu.edu/~sgsax > > Dept. of Plant Pathology > > Kansas State University > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd > Website: > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd > Website: > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 10 10:12:27 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 11:12:27 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT StarOffice References: <768A0EA6FF8CB34FA522978966E5D52E559D68@bwam02msx.ae.ge.com> Message-ID: <011e01c2ff73$a4200900$6101a8c0@amd2k512> ...I looked Scott ...but it did default to Seth which is what made me look in the first place ...I corrected it ...others have experienced this on OT recently with other senders and mailers so its likely not on my end ...I don't have an answer :( William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting)" To: Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 10:56 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT StarOffice > William, > > <<...btw, what mailer are you using ...your header is coming all the way > < > If you look below, you will see that it says that it did default to accessd. It > must be on your end, except that you replied to it and it said "T0: > accessd at databaseadvisors.com" > > <<----- Original Message ----- > < > < > > Scott > > Scroll down and take a look... > > -----Original Message----- > From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 10:26 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT StarOffice > > > ...lol ...knew that would be your response :) ...but I do far to much db > integration with other MSOffice apps to ever try marrying Access with > StarOffice apps ...no matter how good StarOffice or OpenOffice gets, until > it makes such integration as developer/user friendly as MSOffice does, the > economics are going to have to be much, much better than that to lure me > ...there is no question that $600+ for MSOffice is high but neither is there > any question that at my hourly development rate, a fully integrated, user > friendly application will cost far less in MSOffice than the same product > done in Star/OpenOffice, even using MSAccess. > > ...much as I'd like to see a viable competitor to MS Office drive the prices > down, I just don't see it in the current Star/OpenOffice products ...the > fact that its source code is open is by far its most attractive feature > ...but until that means something in terms of real desktop productivity, it > will not become a viable business product ...imnsho of course :) > > ...btw, what mailer are you using ...your header is coming all the way > through in OE6 and the To: defaults to your address rather than accessd :( > > William Hindman > "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund > Burke > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Seth Galitzer" > To: "accessd" > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 9:46 AM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT StarOffice > > > > > c77efa at hosea.qub.ac.uk><1049912749.26548.50.camel at sgsax-th4022c><1049913718. > > > > > 3e946976b3732 at hosea.qub.ac.uk><1049915226.27231.67.camel at sgsax-th4022c><0191 > > 01c2fedc$dea746c0$6101a8c0 at amd2k512> > > <16616805605.20030410133550 at cactus.dk> > > <006f01c2ff56$6af35f00$6101a8c0 at amd2k512> > > Content-Type: text/plain > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.5 > > Date: 10 Apr 2003 08:42:48 -0500 > > Message-Id: <1049982168.29139.17.camel at sgsax-th4022c> > > Mime-Version: 1.0 > > X-BeenThere: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 > > Precedence: list > > Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > List-Id: > > List-Help: > > List-Post: > > List-Subscribe: , > > > > List-Archive: > > List-Unsubscribe: , > > > > Sender: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > Errors-To: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > > William, > > > > So what's wrong with a mix-and-match approach? It's my mantra: use the > > best tool for the job. If you find the tools included with StarOffice > > to be adequate, but still want to use Access, then do so. Last I > > checked, you could still by each of the Office products seperately. You > > can even save a few bucks. > > > > SRP MS Office XP Pro: $579 > > > > SRP MS Access 2002: $339 > > SRP StarOffice 6.0: $75.95 > > > > Price Savings: $164.05 > > > > Which should almost be enough to buy yourself a copy of WordPerfect > > (upgrade) to go with it. :) Buy all three, collect the full set! :) > > > > Seth > > > > On Thu, 2003-04-10 at 06:43, William Hindman wrote: > > > ...hhhmmm ...have not checked today gustav but iirc it was Starbase that > was > > > pulled and Adabas D that was added ...at least that's what I recall when > I > > > looked at the specs for 6 ...I've not tried 6 myself because I'm not > > > interested in any office replacement suite without an Access comparable > db > > > development capability :( > > > > > > William Hindman > > > > -- > > Seth Galitzer sgsax at ksu.edu > > Computing Specialist http://puma.agron.ksu.edu/~sgsax > > Dept. of Plant Pathology > > Kansas State University > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From Lembit.Soobik at t-online.de Thu Apr 10 10:24:35 2003 From: Lembit.Soobik at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 17:24:35 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] OT StarOffice References: <001301c2ff72$a23608c0$b274d0d5@andypc> Message-ID: <00a301c2ff75$4b7ec190$0300a8c0@S856> same here Lembit Soobik > It's not just William. I got it like that too. > > Andy Lacey > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > > Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting) > > Sent: 10 April 2003 15:56 > > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT StarOffice > > > > > > William, > > > > <<...btw, what mailer are you using ...your header is coming > > all the way < > address rather than accessd :( > > > > If you look below, you will see that it says that it did > > default to accessd. It must be on your end, except that you > > replied to it and it said "T0: accessd at databaseadvisors.com" > > > > <<----- Original Message ----- > > < > > < > > > > Scott > > > > Scroll down and take a look... > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] > > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 10:26 AM > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT StarOffice > > > > > > ...lol ...knew that would be your response :) ...but I do far > > to much db integration with other MSOffice apps to ever try > > marrying Access with StarOffice apps ...no matter how good > > StarOffice or OpenOffice gets, until it makes such > > integration as developer/user friendly as MSOffice does, the > > economics are going to have to be much, much better than that > > to lure me ...there is no question that $600+ for MSOffice is > > high but neither is there any question that at my hourly > > development rate, a fully integrated, user friendly > > application will cost far less in MSOffice than the same > > product done in Star/OpenOffice, even using MSAccess. > > > > ...much as I'd like to see a viable competitor to MS Office > > drive the prices down, I just don't see it in the current > > Star/OpenOffice products ...the fact that its source code is > > open is by far its most attractive feature ...but until that > > means something in terms of real desktop productivity, it > > will not become a viable business product ...imnsho of course :) > > > > ...btw, what mailer are you using ...your header is coming > > all the way through in OE6 and the To: defaults to your > > address rather than accessd :( > > > > William Hindman > > "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do > > nothing." Edmund Burke > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Seth Galitzer" > > To: "accessd" > > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 9:46 AM > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT StarOffice > > > > > > > > > c77efa at hosea.qub.ac.uk><1049912749.26548.50.camel at sgsax-th4022 > > c><1049913718. > > > > > > > > 3e946976b3732 at hosea.qub.ac.uk><1049915226.27231.67.camel at sgsax > > -th4022c><0191 > > > 01c2fedc$dea746c0$6101a8c0 at amd2k512> > > > <16616805605.20030410133550 at cactus.dk> > > > <006f01c2ff56$6af35f00$6101a8c0 at amd2k512> > > > Content-Type: text/plain > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.5 > > > Date: 10 Apr 2003 08:42:48 -0500 > > > Message-Id: <1049982168.29139.17.camel at sgsax-th4022c> > > > Mime-Version: 1.0 > > > X-BeenThere: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > > X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 > > > Precedence: list > > > Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > > List-Id: > > > List-Help: > > > > > List-Post: > > > List-Subscribe: > > > , > > > > > > List-Archive: > > > List-Unsubscribe: > > , > > > > > > Sender: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > Errors-To: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > William, > > > > > > So what's wrong with a mix-and-match approach? It's my mantra: use > > > the best tool for the job. If you find the tools included with > > > StarOffice to be adequate, but still want to use Access, > > then do so. > > > Last I checked, you could still by each of the Office products > > > seperately. You can even save a few bucks. > > > > > > SRP MS Office XP Pro: $579 > > > > > > SRP MS Access 2002: $339 > > > SRP StarOffice 6.0: $75.95 > > > > > > Price Savings: $164.05 > > > > > > Which should almost be enough to buy yourself a copy of WordPerfect > > > (upgrade) to go with it. :) Buy all three, collect the full set! :) > > > > > > Seth > > > > > > On Thu, 2003-04-10 at 06:43, William Hindman wrote: > > > > ...hhhmmm ...have not checked today gustav but iirc it > > was Starbase > > > > that > > was > > > > pulled and Adabas D that was added ...at least that's > > what I recall > > > > when > > I > > > > looked at the specs for 6 ...I've not tried 6 myself > > because I'm not > > > > interested in any office replacement suite without an Access > > > > comparable > > db > > > > development capability :( > > > > > > > > William Hindman > > > > > > -- > > > Seth Galitzer sgsax at ksu.edu > > > Computing Specialist http://puma.agron.ksu.edu/~sgsax > > > Dept. of Plant Pathology > > > Kansas State University > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > AccessD mailing list > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd > > Website: > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd > > Website: > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From sgsax at ksu.edu Thu Apr 10 10:30:54 2003 From: sgsax at ksu.edu (Seth Galitzer) Date: 10 Apr 2003 10:30:54 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT StarOffice In-Reply-To: <006e01c2ff6d$10441290$6101a8c0@amd2k512> References: <006e01c2ff6d$10441290$6101a8c0@amd2k512> Message-ID: <1049988655.29077.31.camel@sgsax-th4022c> On Thu, 2003-04-10 at 09:25, William Hindman wrote: > ...lol ...knew that would be your response :) ...but I do far to much db > ...much as I'd like to see a viable competitor to MS Office drive the prices > down, I just don't see it in the current Star/OpenOffice products ...the > fact that its source code is open is by far its most attractive feature > ...but until that means something in terms of real desktop productivity, it > will not become a viable business product ...imnsho of course :) My contention is that most MS Office users don't utilize the latest and greatest whiz-bang features that new versions of the software provide. For day-to-day "real world" tasks, I would contend that SO does a great job. Add in the fact that it imports and exports typical MS docs transparently, so you can still talk to the rest of the conquered --errr civilized --errr de facto standardized world, and you've got a hell of a product. So far the only thing I've been dissappointed in is the graphing capability. MS does a much better job of this. (Yes, you heard me right). For me, the open-source aspect of Star/OpenOffice is not its most attractive feature. It is the fact that you get a well-rounded office suite that does what it says it does, does it damn well, and does it for a fraction of the price of the "market leader". And in the Linux space, no other office suite comes close to its power, flexibility, and usability. > > ...btw, what mailer are you using ...your header is coming all the way > through in OE6 and the To: defaults to your address rather than accessd :( I've been using Evolution, an Outlook clone written for Linux. It's not my favorite email client I've ever used (eg it's too much like Outlook), but it's the best one written for this platform. You're not the first person to make this comment in general (not just to me). Looks like we'll need to do some more tweaking on the listserv. Seth > > William Hindman > "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund > Burke > -- Seth Galitzer sgsax at ksu.edu Computing Specialist http://puma.agron.ksu.edu/~sgsax Dept. of Plant Pathology Kansas State University From scott.marcus at ae.ge.com Thu Apr 10 10:48:02 2003 From: scott.marcus at ae.ge.com (Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting)) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 11:48:02 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT StarOffice Message-ID: <768A0EA6FF8CB34FA522978966E5D52E559D69@bwam02msx.ae.ge.com> Very strange indeed! -----Original Message----- From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 11:12 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT StarOffice ...I looked Scott ...but it did default to Seth which is what made me look in the first place ...I corrected it ...others have experienced this on OT recently with other senders and mailers so its likely not on my end ...I don't have an answer :( William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting)" To: Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 10:56 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT StarOffice > William, > > <<...btw, what mailer are you using ...your header is coming all the way > < > If you look below, you will see that it says that it did default to accessd. It > must be on your end, except that you replied to it and it said "T0: > accessd at databaseadvisors.com" > > <<----- Original Message ----- > < > < > > Scott > > Scroll down and take a look... > > -----Original Message----- > From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 10:26 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT StarOffice > > > ...lol ...knew that would be your response :) ...but I do far to much db > integration with other MSOffice apps to ever try marrying Access with > StarOffice apps ...no matter how good StarOffice or OpenOffice gets, until > it makes such integration as developer/user friendly as MSOffice does, the > economics are going to have to be much, much better than that to lure me > ...there is no question that $600+ for MSOffice is high but neither is there > any question that at my hourly development rate, a fully integrated, user > friendly application will cost far less in MSOffice than the same product > done in Star/OpenOffice, even using MSAccess. > > ...much as I'd like to see a viable competitor to MS Office drive the prices > down, I just don't see it in the current Star/OpenOffice products ...the > fact that its source code is open is by far its most attractive feature > ...but until that means something in terms of real desktop productivity, it > will not become a viable business product ...imnsho of course :) > > ...btw, what mailer are you using ...your header is coming all the way > through in OE6 and the To: defaults to your address rather than accessd :( > > William Hindman > "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund > Burke > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Seth Galitzer" > To: "accessd" > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 9:46 AM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT StarOffice > > > > > c77efa at hosea.qub.ac.uk><1049912749.26548.50.camel at sgsax-th4022c><1049913718. > > > > > 3e946976b3732 at hosea.qub.ac.uk><1049915226.27231.67.camel at sgsax-th4022c><0191 > > 01c2fedc$dea746c0$6101a8c0 at amd2k512> > > <16616805605.20030410133550 at cactus.dk> > > <006f01c2ff56$6af35f00$6101a8c0 at amd2k512> > > Content-Type: text/plain > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.5 > > Date: 10 Apr 2003 08:42:48 -0500 > > Message-Id: <1049982168.29139.17.camel at sgsax-th4022c> > > Mime-Version: 1.0 > > X-BeenThere: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 > > Precedence: list > > Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > List-Id: > > List-Help: > > List-Post: > > List-Subscribe: , > > > > List-Archive: > > List-Unsubscribe: , > > > > Sender: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > Errors-To: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > > William, > > > > So what's wrong with a mix-and-match approach? It's my mantra: use the > > best tool for the job. If you find the tools included with StarOffice > > to be adequate, but still want to use Access, then do so. Last I > > checked, you could still by each of the Office products seperately. You > > can even save a few bucks. > > > > SRP MS Office XP Pro: $579 > > > > SRP MS Access 2002: $339 > > SRP StarOffice 6.0: $75.95 > > > > Price Savings: $164.05 > > > > Which should almost be enough to buy yourself a copy of WordPerfect > > (upgrade) to go with it. :) Buy all three, collect the full set! :) > > > > Seth > > > > On Thu, 2003-04-10 at 06:43, William Hindman wrote: > > > ...hhhmmm ...have not checked today gustav but iirc it was Starbase that > was > > > pulled and Adabas D that was added ...at least that's what I recall when > I > > > looked at the specs for 6 ...I've not tried 6 myself because I'm not > > > interested in any office replacement suite without an Access comparable > db > > > development capability :( > > > > > > William Hindman > > > > -- > > Seth Galitzer sgsax at ksu.edu > > Computing Specialist http://puma.agron.ksu.edu/~sgsax > > Dept. of Plant Pathology > > Kansas State University > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From gustav at cactus.dk Thu Apr 10 11:02:02 2003 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 18:02:02 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] OT StarOffice In-Reply-To: <768A0EA6FF8CB34FA522978966E5D52E559D69@bwam02msx.ae.ge.com> References: <768A0EA6FF8CB34FA522978966E5D52E559D69@bwam02msx.ae.ge.com> Message-ID: <7832778042.20030410180202@cactus.dk> Hi Scott If your mailer doesn't respect the "Reply-To:" address it is not so strange. Here's a snip of the header source: From: "Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting)" To: "'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'" Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com /gustav > Very strange indeed! > -----Original Message----- > From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 11:12 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT StarOffice > ...I looked Scott ...but it did default to Seth which is what made me look > in the first place ...I corrected it ...others have experienced this on OT > recently with other senders and mailers so its likely not on my end ...I > don't have an answer :( >> <<...btw, what mailer are you using ...your header is coming all the way >> < <000701c29fd9$ce375e90$b615010a@FHTAPIA> <002b01c2ff6d$ffae5b10$6400000a@dogbert2k> Message-ID: <3E959709.4000105@shaw.ca> Tom Adams wrote: >I'm working on a VB6 project with Sql 7 running on an NT 4 server. > >I don't like the limitations of the Enterprise Manager (eg. Won't show the schema or fields when using a Case statement, although it >runs fine). > >Does anyone know of a replacement product - reasonably priced of course that would work properly with a Case statement. I've used >Tiffany with Sql Server 6.5 and it was wonderful but I think it's about $1,000. > >Thanks - Tom > > > > This free replacement for EM complete with vb and sql-dmo source code has been out for a couple of years. Useful for learning SQL-DMO from VB6. Is it fully stable? I don't know but it has been out a couple years. It has versions for SQL 7 and SQL 2000. There is documentation in English and Italian. If it doesn't work as advertised you can change the code. Andrea Montanari, the guy that wrote this, kept losing his website in Italy. This seems to be, why it has been hard to find. http://www.asql.biz/DbaMgr.shtm I mentioned it to Roger Jenning in response to a quote from the last paragraph of my "Is MSDE Right for You?" MS Responds article (http://www.fawcette.com/dotnetmag/2002_01/online/online_eprods/sql_rjennin gs01_10/page2.asp). "Here's hoping that some "enterprising" ISV takes advantage of SQLNamespace objects and SQL-DMO to deliver a reasonably priced Enterprise Manager replacement. Then MSDE will be "right" for at least moderate-duty database back ends, and upsizing Jet databases to MSDE 2000 finally will become practical." He had a look and said it would have made a good addition to the CD-ROM for his Access books. There is also this free one from BMC that works from a web browser and various DB's but I haven't tried it out. It uses a 12 month free license key renewable every year. SmartDBA Cockpit (1.6.01) http://shop.bmc.com/product_moreinfo.cfm?id=2479&cpg=US00-1889GA From tswisher at GFNET.com Thu Apr 10 11:16:34 2003 From: tswisher at GFNET.com (Swisher, Timothy B.) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 12:16:34 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Print to PDF through code Message-ID: <076FC7A51D07D411BC02009027A1B45101ED3060@SEESAR3.corporate.gannettfleming.com> Hello group, how can I programmatically print to a .pdf without changing default printers and all that. I want to be able to supply a file name through code and have that report be saved as a .pdf. I think I saw something in the Archives, but since Drew burnt his neighborhood down, I can't go back and find them. Any help is appreciated. Thanks. Tim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com Thu Apr 10 11:24:48 2003 From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 12:24:48 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! Message-ID: Alls well that ends well! I wouldn't get any work done if I lived near a golf course that I had access to. John >>> DWUTKA at marlow.com 04/09/03 10:25PM >>> ... not too mention free membership to their Golf club (course and club house). It's beautiful, and we already have a deposit down on an apartment. ... From dwaters at usinternet.com Thu Apr 10 11:52:13 2003 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 11:52:13 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Can't Change Recordset Type or Record Locks properties in Combobox Query Properties Message-ID: <000501c2ff81$896bc280$de1811d8@DanWaters> Folks, I've been trying to change these properties, but they always revert back to 'Edited Record' and 'Dynaset'. Anyone know what is happening? I'm using XP, and the combobox query does a lookup from a single table. I would like to at least change the Recordset Type property to Snapshot. Will I need to create a query to do this? Thanks, Dan Waters -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From delliker at hotmail.com Thu Apr 10 12:03:51 2003 From: delliker at hotmail.com (Don Elliker) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 13:03:51 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Linking to various dbs through DAO /Access2k Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Thu Apr 10 12:21:00 2003 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 18:21:00 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Print to PDF through code In-Reply-To: <076FC7A51D07D411BC02009027A1B45101ED3060@SEESAR3.corporate.gannettfleming.com> Message-ID: <002101c2ff85$8eefab00$b274d0d5@andypc> Tim Which version of Access are you using? If A97 it's difficult because you have to change printers interactively to either the Acrobat Distiller or PdfWriter and that's no joke. I've no experience of doing this in later versions so I can't comment on them. Apart from doing that it's fairly straightforward. If you choose to use PDFWriter there's an INI file into which you can put the name of the file you wish to use. But PDFWriter is old technology for Adobe and, I believe, being phased out. There preferred method now is Distiller. With that you have to set Distiller to not request filenames interactively (a check box in the Distiller printer's properties) in which case it writes the filename as the report's caption, so watch out that you don't have characters like / or \ in the caption as it fails because it's an invalid filename. If you want to determine the filename you can't, but you can let it write its own then rename the file. That's what i do. Or you can use a 3rd party pdf creator, which others can tell you about. Or IIRC there's a piece of software which you can purchase that will do it from Access, but again I acn't remember. I'll look it up if you're interested. But it does cost so no good if you've no budget. Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Swisher, Timothy B. Sent: 10 April 2003 17:17 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Print to PDF through code Hello group, how can I programmatically print to a .pdf without changing default printers and all that. I want to be able to supply a file name through code and have that report be saved as a .pdf. I think I saw something in the Archives, but since Drew burnt his neighborhood down, I can't go back and find them. Any help is appreciated. Thanks. Tim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From DWUTKA at marlow.com Thu Apr 10 12:33:54 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 12:33:54 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money was involved... . Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82657@main2.marlow.com> http://www.dallasnews.com/localnews/city/collin/stories/041003dnccomckinneyf ire.6905a.html The link above is the Dallas Morning News article about my apartment fire. I'm actually pictured in the article....so my picture was in the paper this morning....of course I'm smoking a cigarette (which didn't make my Mom happy! ), and on the cell phone, but hey, I'm in the paper. Susan, does that mean that I've been published before the WhoIs article went out? That link will ask you to sign in, it's free, just the paper's way of accounting to their advertisers I guess. Drew (P.S.- Thanks to everyone that has posted to the list, and sent emails to my personal account with support. It's much appreciated. The 'like family' approach to the List is one of it's most endearing values! Better stop now, so I don't get hollered at for long OT posts! ) From jimdettman at earthlink.net Thu Apr 10 13:02:33 2003 From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 14:02:33 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Print to PDF through code In-Reply-To: <002101c2ff85$8eefab00$b274d0d5@andypc> Message-ID: MessageHey speaking of which, has anyone ever tried out this tool just posted on the MSDN Flash? Download a Trial Version of LEADTOOLS ePrint Driver Version 3 LEADTOOLS ePrint from LEAD Technology can save and print to over 140 file formats. New features in version 3 include extended support for setting up multiple printers, added support for multiple resolutions, and improved email support. For developers, version 3 includes new support to set global settings for each printer, new support for control of dialog boxes, and more. Jim Dettman President, Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc. (315) 699-3443 jimdettman at earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Andy Lacey Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 1:21 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Print to PDF through code Tim Which version of Access are you using? If A97 it's difficult because you have to change printers interactively to either the Acrobat Distiller or PdfWriter and that's no joke. I've no experience of doing this in later versions so I can't comment on them. Apart from doing that it's fairly straightforward. If you choose to use PDFWriter there's an INI file into which you can put the name of the file you wish to use. But PDFWriter is old technology for Adobe and, I believe, being phased out. There preferred method now is Distiller. With that you have to set Distiller to not request filenames interactively (a check box in the Distiller printer's properties) in which case it writes the filename as the report's caption, so watch out that you don't have characters like / or \ in the caption as it fails because it's an invalid filename. If you want to determine the filename you can't, but you can let it write its own then rename the file. That's what i do. Or you can use a 3rd party pdf creator, which others can tell you about. Or IIRC there's a piece of software which you can purchase that will do it from Access, but again I acn't remember. I'll look it up if you're interested. But it does cost so no good if you've no budget. Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Swisher, Timothy B. Sent: 10 April 2003 17:17 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Print to PDF through code Hello group, how can I programmatically print to a .pdf without changing default printers and all that. I want to be able to supply a file name through code and have that report be saved as a .pdf. I think I saw something in the Archives, but since Drew burnt his neighborhood down, I can't go back and find them. Any help is appreciated. Thanks. Tim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Thu Apr 10 13:04:07 2003 From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK (Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 19:04:07 +0100 (BST) Subject: [AccessD] OT Corel Office In-Reply-To: <00a301c2ff75$4b7ec190$0300a8c0@S856> References: <001301c2ff72$a23608c0$b274d0d5@andypc> <00a301c2ff75$4b7ec190$0300a8c0@S856> Message-ID: <1049997847.3e95b217f3e0b@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Anyone any inside contacts at Corel? Martin From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 10 13:35:18 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 14:35:18 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money was involved.... References: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82657@main2.marlow.com> Message-ID: <001701c2ff8f$efac5510$6101a8c0@amd2k512> ...all right!!!! ...now we have a photo of the infamous Drew Wutka saved for posterity in dba's "gallery of rogues" ...whenever we get around to making that available :)))) William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Drew Wutka" To: Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 1:33 PM Subject: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money was involved.... > http://www.dallasnews.com/localnews/city/collin/stories/041003dnccomckinneyf > ire.6905a.html > > The link above is the Dallas Morning News article about my apartment fire. > I'm actually pictured in the article....so my picture was in the paper this > morning....of course I'm smoking a cigarette (which didn't make my Mom > happy! ), and on the cell phone, but hey, I'm in the paper. > > Susan, does that mean that I've been published before the WhoIs article went > out? > > That link will ask you to sign in, it's free, just the paper's way of > accounting to their advertisers I guess. > > Drew > > (P.S.- Thanks to everyone that has posted to the list, and sent emails to > my personal account with support. It's much appreciated. The 'like family' > approach to the List is one of it's most endearing values! Better stop > now, so I don't get hollered at for long OT posts! ) > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From mmmtbig at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 10 14:19:09 2003 From: mmmtbig at bellsouth.net (Myke Myers) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 15:19:09 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Print to PDF through code In-Reply-To: <076FC7A51D07D411BC02009027A1B45101ED3060@SEESAR3.corporate.gannettfleming.com> Message-ID: <001a01c2ff96$10190e50$6501a8c0@tbig3> Does it have to be a .pdf? Access report snapshots are very easy to automate and free. Myke -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Swisher, Timothy B. Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 12:17 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Print to PDF through code Hello group, how can I programmatically print to a .pdf without changing default printers and all that. I want to be able to supply a file name through code and have that report be saved as a .pdf. I think I saw something in the Archives, but since Drew burnt his neighborhood down, I can't go back and find them. Any help is appreciated. Thanks. Tim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tswisher at GFNET.com Thu Apr 10 14:26:15 2003 From: tswisher at GFNET.com (Swisher, Timothy B.) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 15:26:15 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Print to PDF through code Message-ID: <076FC7A51D07D411BC02009027A1B45101ED3061@SEESAR3.corporate.gannettfleming.com> Yes, it does have to be .pdf. I am using A2k and AXP for development. I have been playing around with changing the registry, and that seems to be working, but I hate to rely on that for any production systems. That scares me a little. Tim -----Original Message----- From: Myke Myers [mailto:mmmtbig at bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 3:19 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Print to PDF through code Does it have to be a .pdf? Access report snapshots are very easy to automate and free. Myke -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Swisher, Timothy B. Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 12:17 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Print to PDF through code Hello group, how can I programmatically print to a .pdf without changing default printers and all that. I want to be able to supply a file name through code and have that report be saved as a .pdf. I think I saw something in the Archives, but since Drew burnt his neighborhood down, I can't go back and find them. Any help is appreciated. Thanks. Tim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jarus at amerinet-gpo.com Thu Apr 10 14:39:01 2003 From: jarus at amerinet-gpo.com (Terri Jarus) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 14:39:01 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Replace Special Characters Message-ID: I want to be able to go through a column of data and strip out any special characters (,./"'-*&!, etc.) and store the "clean" data to a new column. "ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1234567890" How would I go about doing this? Thanks for any help. From john at winhaven.net Thu Apr 10 14:45:37 2003 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 14:45:37 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT Corel Office In-Reply-To: <1049997847.3e95b217f3e0b@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: I can't remember where but I just read that Corel is looking for someone to buy them. JB -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 1:04 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] OT Corel Office Anyone any inside contacts at Corel? Martin _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Thu Apr 10 14:48:04 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 14:48:04 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82661@main2.marlow.com> Actually, she didn't really say anything about me getting the expensive and 'data' laiden computer stuff first. I think she realized that if I that stuff didn't get repaired, it would be the first thing we would have to buy! Drew -----Original Message----- From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 6:28 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! "It beats the ole 'dog ate my homework' excuse by miles." Darren ...my first thought exactly!!!!!! :)))))) ...good luck Drew ...on your apartment as well as the server ...bet your wife was thrilled with your priority in recovery choices! :))) William Hindman "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren DICK" To: Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 12:13 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! > What an awesome tale. It beats the ole 'dog ate my > homework' excuse by miles. :-) > Seriously, I do hope everyone is OK and your pewta > too. > Best of luck dude > > > DD > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Drew Wutka" > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 12:25 PM > Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! > > > > Okay, follow this evidence of the curse. > > > > I initially built and hosted the archives on my > work machine. In early > > January of this year, I moved the entire > archives to my home machine. That > > was on a weekend, and that Thursday (so 4 days > later) my DSL provider (IP > > Communications....who my ISP was leasing my DSL > through) went bankrupt and > > just switched off their network. It took close > to a month to get my DSL > > back up and running. When my DSL finally came > back up, so I could once > > again 'host' the archives, I had them online, > and had even built the index > > portion (just didn't have the search using that > technology yet). Two days > > after getting my DSL back online (with SBC as > the new DSL provider...through > > my normal ISP), my wife decided to move us to a > new apartment (300 feet > > away), so I had to move my phone AND DSL > (however I cancelled with my ISP, > > and went with SBC directly, which took close to > a month to get that to go > > through....go figure). So mid March I finally > had DSL again, in my new > > apartment. Two weeks ago I 'rebuilt' my website > (actually it's blank, just > > a new theme and menus......), and last week I > began putting the index > > capability into the search pages. I announced > their existence and > > availability Monday night. This morning > (Wednesday around 12:30 am EST), > > our apartment building caught on fire. 3 of the > 4 top apartments are > > completely gutted by the fire. I am/was in the > bottom apartment in the > > middle of the three 'gutted' ones. My apartment > has a little fire damage, > > but a LOT of smoke and water damage. > > > > Thus, the archives are offline, once again! ARG, > I swear they are cursed. > > However, there is a silver lining. The complex > we were leasing with do not > > have another apartment of the same size for us. > However, just down the > > street there is a brand new complex (with a > sprinkler system and firewalls > > in and around all of the apartments...go > figure...), which is offering a > > similar sized apartment, for about the same > price, however water and cable > > are included, High speed internet is available > for less then DSL (and I can > > get a static IP), not too mention free > membership to their Golf club (course > > and club house). It's beautiful, and we already > have a deposit down on an > > apartment. So, if all goes well, I'll have the > archives up again in a week > > or so, otherwise I've been given 'permission' to > move them back to work > > here, until I get my home system up and running. > > > > I am at work now, and have brought my home > 'server' in with me (first thing > > I grabbed from my apartment, when a fireperson > let me go in real > > quick)....... Everyone wish me luck, > because in an hour or so, I am > > going to bravely clean up the box, and see if it > turns on! > fingers crossed!> > > > > Drew (Who is currently chain smoking and taking > several Tylenol every four > > hours.....) > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/acces > sd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Thu Apr 10 14:49:47 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 14:49:47 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82662@main2.marlow.com> Ya, I think I'll by a lottery ticket...who knows...if I win...I'm getting a house with a T1! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 8:35 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! Pamela, You even dare face the computer before that first jolt of caffeine? Gawd, how brave of you! ----------------------- Drew, Sounds like you have had enough bad luck for a while. May you have good luck from now on! Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: PBudge at cbsol.com [mailto:PBudge at cbsol.com] Sent: Thursday 2003 Apr 10 08:25 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! Oh gaaawd. . . *hangs head* SORRY! Honestly, I've GOT to start drinking that coffee earlier. ;-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))) DULY crossed. There. Is that better? ;-))))))))))))))))))))) Pamela G. Budge PBudge at cbsol.com Creative Business Solutions "William Hindman" "My fingers are dully crossed" Pamela ...hhhmmm ...too much keyboarding wore the edges off eh? :) William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Thu Apr 10 14:50:05 2003 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 20:50:05 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Replace Special Characters In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <004801c2ff9a$6267a000$b274d0d5@andypc> Terri Check out the Replace function (not in A97 though) Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Terri Jarus > Sent: 10 April 2003 20:39 > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Replace Special Characters > > > I want to be able to go through a column of data and strip > out any special characters (,./"'-*&!, etc.) and store the > "clean" data to a new column. > > "ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1234567890" > > How would I go about doing this? > > Thanks for any help. > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd > Website: > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From michael.mattys at adelphia.net Thu Apr 10 14:54:34 2003 From: michael.mattys at adelphia.net (Michael R Mattys) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 15:54:34 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Replace Special Characters References: Message-ID: <002f01c2ff9b$03c0dca0$6401a8c0@default> Terri & Group Function ReturnOneWord(s As String) 'Mattys Consulting 'For stripping out unwanted characters Dim varChar As Variant, i As Integer, j As Integer, k As Integer, Dim P As Integer, LenSep As Integer varChar = Array(" ", "-", ".", ",", ":", ";", "(", ")", "\", "/", "'", Chr(9), _ Chr(10), Chr(13), "&", "%of", "+", "#", "?", "$", "_") For i = 0 To UBound(varChar) P = InStr(1, s, varChar(i)) If P > 0 Then j = CountCSVWords(s, varChar(i)) For k = 1 To j P = InStr(1, s, varChar(i)) If P > 0 Then LenSep = Len(varChar(i)) - 1 s = Trim$(Left$(s, P - 1)) & Trim$(Right(s, Len(s) - P - LenSep)) End If Next End If Next ReturnOneWord = s End Function Private Function CountUnwanted(s As String, sep) As Integer ' Counts words in a string separated by unwanted chars Dim WC As Integer, pos As Integer If VarType(s) <> 8 Or Len(s) = 0 Then CountUnwanted= 0 Exit Function End If WC = 1 pos = InStr(s, sep) Do While pos > 0 WC = WC + 1 pos = InStr(pos + 1, s, sep) Loop CountUnwanted= WC End Function Michael R. Mattys www.mattysconsulting.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terri Jarus" To: Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 3:39 PM Subject: [AccessD] Replace Special Characters > I want to be able to go through a column of data and strip out any > special characters (,./"'-*&!, etc.) and store the "clean" data to a new > column. > > "ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1234567890" > > How would I go about doing this? > > Thanks for any help. > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From delliker at hotmail.com Thu Apr 10 14:54:25 2003 From: delliker at hotmail.com (Don Elliker) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 15:54:25 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Replace Special Characters Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From DWUTKA at marlow.com Thu Apr 10 15:01:51 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 15:01:51 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money w as involved.... Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82664@main2.marlow.com> Ack, I'll need to send in a better picture then that. I got caught sticking my gut out, on the cell, with a cig. Sheesh...not to mention I look like a hippy with my hair all long like that (just cut it this morning.....feel MUCH better...). Drew -----Original Message----- From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 1:35 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money was involved.... ...all right!!!! ...now we have a photo of the infamous Drew Wutka saved for posterity in dba's "gallery of rogues" ...whenever we get around to making that available :)))) William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Drew Wutka" To: Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 1:33 PM Subject: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money was involved.... > http://www.dallasnews.com/localnews/city/collin/stories/041003dnccomckinneyf > ire.6905a.html > > The link above is the Dallas Morning News article about my apartment fire. > I'm actually pictured in the article....so my picture was in the paper this > morning....of course I'm smoking a cigarette (which didn't make my Mom > happy! ), and on the cell phone, but hey, I'm in the paper. > > Susan, does that mean that I've been published before the WhoIs article went > out? > > That link will ask you to sign in, it's free, just the paper's way of > accounting to their advertisers I guess. > > Drew > > (P.S.- Thanks to everyone that has posted to the list, and sent emails to > my personal account with support. It's much appreciated. The 'like family' > approach to the List is one of it's most endearing values! Better stop > now, so I don't get hollered at for long OT posts! ) > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Thu Apr 10 15:01:44 2003 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 21:01:44 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Chart object In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <004e01c2ff9c$02a453a0$b274d0d5@andypc> My A97 app has a number of MS Chart objects. These are Ms Chart 97 object types. Having just inserted a new chart it's showing as an MS Chart 2000 object. This is probably because of installing Outlook 2000 and managing to pick up a new version of Ms Chart (just guessing). Anyway the nuisance is that the object model appears to be different - no not just appears, IS different. Does anyone have any idea what I need to put back to revert to MS Chart 97, and how? Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From DWUTKA at marlow.com Thu Apr 10 15:07:38 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 15:07:38 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Replace Special Characters Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82665@main2.marlow.com> Function ReturnJustAlphaNumeric(strOriginal as String) as string Dim strTemp as string Dim i as long strTemp="" For i=1 to Len(strOriginal) if IsNumeric(mid(strOriginal,i,1)) Or _ (Asc(mid(UCase(strOriginal),i,1))>=65 And _ Asc(mid(UCase(strOriginal),i,1))<=90) Then strTemp=strTemp & mid(strOriginal,i,1) End If Next i ReturnJustAlphaNumeric=strTemp End Function There ya go.... (Test it, I'm running on very little sleep, so I may have a typo in there.) Drew -----Original Message----- From: Terri Jarus [mailto:jarus at amerinet-gpo.com] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 2:39 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Replace Special Characters I want to be able to go through a column of data and strip out any special characters (,./"'-*&!, etc.) and store the "clean" data to a new column. "ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1234567890" How would I go about doing this? Thanks for any help. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Thu Apr 10 15:11:35 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 15:11:35 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Replace Special Characters Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82668@main2.marlow.com> Ack, you mean run a replace on all non-alphanumeric characters? Wouldn't that be a bit excessive? Drew -----Original Message----- From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 2:50 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Replace Special Characters Terri Check out the Replace function (not in A97 though) Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Terri Jarus > Sent: 10 April 2003 20:39 > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Replace Special Characters > > > I want to be able to go through a column of data and strip > out any special characters (,./"'-*&!, etc.) and store the > "clean" data to a new column. > > "ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1234567890" > > How would I go about doing this? > > Thanks for any help. > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd > Website: > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Thu Apr 10 15:12:00 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 15:12:00 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money was involved.... Message-ID: Drew, That picture is the REAL you. Any other picture you send is of an imposter. I hear there are several guys that used to be doubles for Saddam that are now looking for jobs. Maybe one of them can be your double. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Thursday 2003 Apr 10 15:02 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money was involved.... Ack, I'll need to send in a better picture then that. I got caught sticking my gut out, on the cell, with a cig. Sheesh...not to mention I look like a hippy with my hair all long like that (just cut it this morning.....feel MUCH better...). Drew -----Original Message----- From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 1:35 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money was involved.... ...all right!!!! ...now we have a photo of the infamous Drew Wutka saved for posterity in dba's "gallery of rogues" ...whenever we get around to making that available :)))) William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Drew Wutka" To: Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 1:33 PM Subject: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money was involved.... > http://www.dallasnews.com/localnews/city/collin/stories/041003dnccomckin neyf > ire.6905a.html > > The link above is the Dallas Morning News article about my apartment > fire. I'm actually pictured in the article....so my picture was in the > paper this > morning....of course I'm smoking a cigarette (which didn't make my Mom > happy! ), and on the cell phone, but hey, I'm in the paper. > > Susan, does that mean that I've been published before the WhoIs > article went > out? > > That link will ask you to sign in, it's free, just the paper's way of > accounting to their advertisers I guess. > > Drew > > (P.S.- Thanks to everyone that has posted to the list, and sent > emails to my personal account with support. It's much appreciated. > The 'like family' > approach to the List is one of it's most endearing values! Better stop > now, so I don't get hollered at for long OT posts! ) From Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com Thu Apr 10 15:14:16 2003 From: Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com (Jeff Barrows) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 15:14:16 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Strange happenings in Memo fields Message-ID: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE6305091B2@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com> Has anyone had text entered into a memo field suddenly change? My client claims that there is no pattern to it, but some of the text in his memo field seems to turn into 'Chinese type characters'. They are using Access 2002 with a SQL backend. Jeff Barrows Outbak Technologies, LLC Racine, WI Phone: (262) 634-0653 Mailto: jeff at outbaktech.com www.outbaktech.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Thu Apr 10 15:11:45 2003 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 21:11:45 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Replace Special Characters In-Reply-To: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82668@main2.marlow.com> Message-ID: <005901c2ff9d$68e54740$b274d0d5@andypc> Yea you're probably right. Didn't give that one enough thought. Concentrate Andy, concentrate! Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka > Sent: 10 April 2003 21:12 > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Replace Special Characters > > > Ack, you mean run a replace on all non-alphanumeric > characters? Wouldn't that be a bit excessive? > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk] > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 2:50 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Replace Special Characters > > > Terri > Check out the Replace function (not in A97 though) > > Andy Lacey > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Terri Jarus > > Sent: 10 April 2003 20:39 > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: [AccessD] Replace Special Characters > > > > > > I want to be able to go through a column of data and strip out any > > special characters (,./"'-*&!, etc.) and store the "clean" > data to a > > new column. > > > > "ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1234567890" > > > > How would I go about doing this? > > > > Thanks for any help. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd > > Website: > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd > Website: > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd > Website: > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jarus at amerinet-gpo.com Thu Apr 10 15:18:34 2003 From: jarus at amerinet-gpo.com (Terri Jarus) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 15:18:34 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Replace Special Characters Message-ID: You are the bomb! That's exactly what I needed and it works like a champ! Thank you very much and thanks to all who responded. >>> DWUTKA at marlow.com 04/10/03 03:07PM >>> Function ReturnJustAlphaNumeric(strOriginal as String) as string Dim strTemp as string Dim i as long strTemp="" For i=1 to Len(strOriginal) if IsNumeric(mid(strOriginal,i,1)) Or _ (Asc(mid(UCase(strOriginal),i,1))>=65 And _ Asc(mid(UCase(strOriginal),i,1))<=90) Then strTemp=strTemp & mid(strOriginal,i,1) End If Next i ReturnJustAlphaNumeric=strTemp End Function There ya go.... (Test it, I'm running on very little sleep, so I may have a typo in there.) Drew -----Original Message----- From: Terri Jarus [mailto:jarus at amerinet-gpo.com] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 2:39 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Replace Special Characters I want to be able to go through a column of data and strip out any special characters (,./"'-*&!, etc.) and store the "clean" data to a new column. "ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1234567890" How would I go about doing this? Thanks for any help. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From artful at rogers.com Thu Apr 10 15:20:50 2003 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 16:20:50 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Debugging problem In-Reply-To: <18424910689.20030410155055@cactus.dk> Message-ID: <000601c2ff9e$adc241a0$8e01a8c0@Rock> Thanks to all who replied. Turns out there were two issues: 1. Code in the wrong place 2. Empty record set because the existing code was passing the wrong parm to the sproc. But yes, I will now Move all his open code that examines data values to Load. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: April 10, 2003 9:51 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Debugging problem Hi Arthur Try moving your code to Form_Load. /gustav > The controls on a form are not populated yet at OnOpen, try OnCurrent > or OnActivate. > Charles Wortz From artful at rogers.com Thu Apr 10 15:23:01 2003 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 16:23:01 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Caffeine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000701c2ff9e$fbffdbc0$8e01a8c0@Rock> Me too. There's a Starbucks down the road some and I have become a Venti Latte addict. First thing every morning :-) -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of PBudge at cbsol.com Sent: April 10, 2003 10:01 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! Worse, I DRIVE before that first jolt of caffeine and even leaving before 7, traffic is miserable! ;-))))))) From rmoore at comtechpst.com Thu Apr 10 15:23:13 2003 From: rmoore at comtechpst.com (Ron Moore) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 16:23:13 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money was involved.... In-Reply-To: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82664@main2.marlow.com> Message-ID: <003301c2ff9f$04095a80$4814a8c0@Comtech.Comtechpst.com> Drew, I don't know if the reporter intended it or not but it seems a little ironic with a pick of you smoking' a cig in an article about a house fire! Were you sleeping when it happened? :-) Ron -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 4:02 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money was involved.... Ack, I'll need to send in a better picture then that. I got caught sticking my gut out, on the cell, with a cig. Sheesh...not to mention I look like a hippy with my hair all long like that (just cut it this morning.....feel MUCH better...). Drew -----Original Message----- From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 1:35 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money was involved.... ...all right!!!! ...now we have a photo of the infamous Drew Wutka saved for posterity in dba's "gallery of rogues" ...whenever we get around to making that available :)))) William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Drew Wutka" To: Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 1:33 PM Subject: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money was involved.... > http://www.dallasnews.com/localnews/city/collin/stories/041003dnccomckinneyf > ire.6905a.html > > The link above is the Dallas Morning News article about my apartment fire. > I'm actually pictured in the article....so my picture was in the paper this > morning....of course I'm smoking a cigarette (which didn't make my Mom > happy! ), and on the cell phone, but hey, I'm in the paper. > > Susan, does that mean that I've been published before the WhoIs article went > out? > > That link will ask you to sign in, it's free, just the paper's way of > accounting to their advertisers I guess. > > Drew > > (P.S.- Thanks to everyone that has posted to the list, and sent emails to > my personal account with support. It's much appreciated. The 'like family' > approach to the List is one of it's most endearing values! Better stop > now, so I don't get hollered at for long OT posts! ) > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From thevigil at kabelfoon.nl Thu Apr 10 15:22:16 2003 From: thevigil at kabelfoon.nl (Bert-Jan Brinkhuis) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 22:22:16 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Limit entry in unbound forms References: <003301c2ff3d$cf0f75a0$8d8f87d9@laptop> Message-ID: <00ec01c2ff9f$04dbecc0$115b2d3e@jester> Mark, In A2K I use a class module (From Access 2000 Developer's Handbook, Volume I (like commented in the code)) and on the change event from a control i like to limit the chracters for i put: Call adhLimitChars(ctlName, lngNumberOfCharacters) The class module is called basLimitChars Code: Option Compare Database Option Explicit ' From Access 2000 Developer's Handbook, Volume I ' by Getz, Litwin, and Gilbert (Sybex) ' Copyright 1999. All rights reserved. Private Declare Function SendMessageLong _ Lib "user32" Alias "SendMessageA" _ (ByVal hWnd As Long, ByVal wMsg As Long, _ ByVal wParam As Long, lngValue As Long) As Long Private Declare Function GetFocus _ Lib "user32" () As Long Private Const EM_SETLIMITTEXT As Long = &HC5 Public Sub adhLimitChars(txt As TextBox, lngLimit As Long) ' You actually CAN use SendMessage with ' Access controls, but you must remember that ' the changes you make are only active ' as long as this control has the focus. ' Therefore, if you want to limit the text in a text ' box, you MUST do it each time you enter the ' control. To be safe, the only place you can really ' do this is in reaction to the Change, BeforeUpdate ' or AfterUpdate events. Dim hWnd As Long Dim lngResult As Long Dim lngNewMax As Long ' Get the window handle for the current window. hWnd = GetFocus() ' Hey, what if there's ALREADY too much text in ' there? Limiting the text would make it ' impossible to type in there at all. You want ' to set the limit to be the max of the amount ' you want and the amount that's in there! lngNewMax = Len(txt.Text) If lngNewMax < lngLimit Then lngNewMax = lngLimit End If ' Send the message to the current text box ' to limit itself to lngNewMax characters. SendMessageLong hWnd, EM_SETLIMITTEXT, lngNewMax, 0 End Sub HTH Bert-Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "MarkH" To: Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 10:47 AM Subject: [AccessD] Limit entry in unbound forms > Hello all... > > I am working with class modules and unbound forms in XP. What I need to > do is limit the length of text a user can enter. I would like to do this > as they type so that its not possible to add text beyond whats allowed. > No warning necessary, just stop at the limit. > > I intend to store the max length allowed as properties in the class so > that the frontend can retrive them without having to hard code them. I > did have a function that could do this but I am away from the office for > a few days so don't have it with me :o( (and I didn't write it in the > first place so have no memory of how it was done) > > Any help greatly appreciated... Also, if theres a better way to do it > I'd very much like to hear that too. > > Cheers > > Mark > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From artful at rogers.com Thu Apr 10 15:29:15 2003 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 16:29:15 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Enterprise Manager replacement ??? In-Reply-To: <3E959709.4000105@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <000801c2ff9f$db05f980$8e01a8c0@Rock> As it happens I just did a bunch of work on this. Had to create an Access app that would let its user run a CD whose Setup copied an ADP to hard disk, installed a new database, and connected the ADP to said DB. Learned a LOT about SQL-DMO in a compressed timeframe, no thanks to the MS Help documents, mind you. Had to google and regoogle numerous times before I discovered everything I needed. Also got some help from the author of dbaMgr, an EM replacement written in VB. I don't have an EM replacement because those were not my requirements, but I'm partway there and intend to finish the job. I'll add your request to my ToDo list. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly Sent: April 10, 2003 12:09 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Enterprise Manager replacement ??? Tom Adams wrote: >I'm working on a VB6 project with Sql 7 running on an NT 4 server. > >I don't like the limitations of the Enterprise Manager (eg. Won't show >the schema or fields when using a Case statement, although it runs >fine). > >Does anyone know of a replacement product - reasonably priced of course >that would work properly with a Case statement. I've used Tiffany with >Sql Server 6.5 and it was wonderful but I think it's about $1,000. > >Thanks - Tom From dmcafee at pacbell.net Thu Apr 10 15:36:54 2003 From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (David McAFee (Home)) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 13:36:54 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Strange happenings in Memo fields In-Reply-To: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE6305091B2@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com> Message-ID: My users have complained of typing 4 periods in a row .... turns into what looks like a bold pipe | If you search the tables for a pipe, you will not find one, yet searching for 4 periods will find the strange character. This happens in both (bound) forms and tables I don't know why though :( HTH David -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Barrows Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 1:14 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Strange happenings in Memo fields Has anyone had text entered into a memo field suddenly change? My client claims that there is no pattern to it, but some of the text in his memo field seems to turn into 'Chinese type characters'. They are using Access 2002 with a SQL backend. Jeff Barrows Outbak Technologies, LLC Racine, WI Phone: (262) 634-0653 Mailto: jeff at outbaktech.com www.outbaktech.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From artful at rogers.com Thu Apr 10 15:34:04 2003 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 16:34:04 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Print to PDF through code In-Reply-To: <002101c2ff85$8eefab00$b274d0d5@andypc> Message-ID: <000901c2ffa0$86efade0$8e01a8c0@Rock> I use a terrific product called PDFMail Pro edition (I upgraded to Pro after a year's success with the Standard edition), from Attac Consulting. It's two products in one, as its name implies. You can create a PDF from any report, then email it to anyone(s). The Pro edition lets you add multiple documents to a single PDF, which was the reason I upgraded. At ETS we had the need to email a customer about 5 documents, each produced by a different Access report. Now the users click one button and it all happens. That's my definition of cool software :-) And I got the glory, though I had to write only about 20 lines of code. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey Sent: April 10, 2003 1:21 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Print to PDF through code Tim Which version of Access are you using? If A97 it's difficult because you have to change printers interactively to either the Acrobat Distiller or PdfWriter and that's no joke. I've no experience of doing this in later versions so I can't comment on them. Apart from doing that it's fairly straightforward. If you choose to use PDFWriter there's an INI file into which you can put the name of the file you wish to use. But PDFWriter is old technology for Adobe and, I believe, being phased out. There preferred method now is Distiller. With that you have to set Distiller to not request filenames interactively (a check box in the Distiller printer's properties) in which case it writes the filename as the report's caption, so watch out that you don't have characters like / or \ in the caption as it fails because it's an invalid filename. If you want to determine the filename you can't, but you can let it write its own then rename the file. That's what i do. Or you can use a 3rd party pdf creator, which others can tell you about. Or IIRC there's a piece of software which you can purchase that will do it from Access, but again I acn't remember. I'll look it up if you're interested. But it does cost so no good if you've no budget. Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, and How's everybody been?(don't answer that you'll kill my hotmail account) _D For intI = 0 To db_BE.TableDefs.Count - 1 Set TdfBE = db_BE.TableDefs(intI) SysCmd acSysCmdUpdateMeter, intI If Not TdfBE.Name Like "msys*" Then Set tdfNew = dbCur.CreateTableDef() With tdfNew .Name = "newtable" & intI '.Attribu! tes = dbAttachedTable .SourceTableName = TdfBE.Name .Connect = "MS Access;DATABASE=" & strDBName End With 'dbCur.TableDefs.Append (tdfNew) dbCur.TableDefs.Append (tdfNew) ! End If Next intI _____ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmaddison at optusnet.com.au Thu Apr 10 17:25:35 2003 From: mmaddison at optusnet.com.au (Michael Maddison) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 08:25:35 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Iraq In-Reply-To: <000c01c2ff0a$e03c4fc0$54dd31d2@OfficePC> Message-ID: Kath, The rule for the OT list is what happens on the OT list stays on the OT list. If any member feels they would be alienated by well argued alternate views to their own then its not a list for them. cheers Michael M Personally, I don't think that politics should even have a place on this OT list - too much chance of alienating members. Kath Pelletti Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. Ph: 9505-6714 Fax: 9505-6430 SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 10 17:44:03 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 18:44:03 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money was involved.... References: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82664@main2.marlow.com> Message-ID: <000c01c2ffb2$afb8ca60$6101a8c0@amd2k512> ...nah ...the photo has you dead to rights ...the real Drew in action ...a hippie you don't look like :))))) William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Drew Wutka" To: Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 4:01 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money was involved.... > Ack, I'll need to send in a better picture then that. I got caught sticking > my gut out, on the cell, with a cig. Sheesh...not to mention I look like a > hippy with my hair all long like that (just cut it this morning.....feel > MUCH better...). > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 1:35 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money > was involved.... > > > ...all right!!!! ...now we have a photo of the infamous Drew Wutka saved for > posterity in dba's "gallery of rogues" ...whenever we get around to making > that available :)))) > > William Hindman > "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund > Burke > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Drew Wutka" > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 1:33 PM > Subject: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money was > involved.... > > > > > http://www.dallasnews.com/localnews/city/collin/stories/041003dnccomckinneyf > > ire.6905a.html > > > > The link above is the Dallas Morning News article about my apartment fire. > > I'm actually pictured in the article....so my picture was in the paper > this > > morning....of course I'm smoking a cigarette (which didn't make my Mom > > happy! ), and on the cell phone, but hey, I'm in the paper. > > > > Susan, does that mean that I've been published before the WhoIs article > went > > out? > > > > That link will ask you to sign in, it's free, just the paper's way of > > accounting to their advertisers I guess. > > > > Drew > > > > (P.S.- Thanks to everyone that has posted to the list, and sent emails to > > my personal account with support. It's much appreciated. The 'like > family' > > approach to the List is one of it's most endearing values! Better stop > > now, so I don't get hollered at for long OT posts! ) > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au Thu Apr 10 18:31:48 2003 From: SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au (Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 09:31:48 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! References: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82662@main2.marlow.com> Message-ID: <00a001c2ffb9$5b2ec6a0$54dd31d2@OfficePC> Drew - Sorry to hear about the fire. Glad to hear / see you're OK. Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: Drew Wutka To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 5:49 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! Ya, I think I'll by a lottery ticket...who knows...if I win...I'm getting a house with a T1! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 8:35 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! Pamela, You even dare face the computer before that first jolt of caffeine? Gawd, how brave of you! ----------------------- Drew, Sounds like you have had enough bad luck for a while. May you have good luck from now on! Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: PBudge at cbsol.com [mailto:PBudge at cbsol.com] Sent: Thursday 2003 Apr 10 08:25 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! Oh gaaawd. . . *hangs head* SORRY! Honestly, I've GOT to start drinking that coffee earlier. ;-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))) DULY crossed. There. Is that better? ;-))))))))))))))))))))) Pamela G. Budge PBudge at cbsol.com Creative Business Solutions "William Hindman" "My fingers are dully crossed" Pamela ...hhhmmm ...too much keyboarding wore the edges off eh? :) William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au Thu Apr 10 18:35:04 2003 From: SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au (Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 09:35:04 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Iraq References: Message-ID: <00c701c2ffb9$d0733900$54dd31d2@OfficePC> well argued alternate views?? Who would determine that that happens? I mean no offence to anyone but I value the list and think politics can quickly get people pretty upset. Are you saying this list is not for me because I say so? Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Maddison To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 8:25 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Iraq Kath, The rule for the OT list is what happens on the OT list stays on the OT list. If any member feels they would be alienated by well argued alternate views to their own then its not a list for them. cheers Michael M Personally, I don't think that politics should even have a place on this OT list - too much chance of alienating members. Kath Pelletti Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. Ph: 9505-6714 Fax: 9505-6430 SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Thu Apr 10 18:42:05 2003 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 09:42:05 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Replace Special Characters In-Reply-To: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82665@main2.marlow.com> Message-ID: <3E968DED.21519.281F91@localhost> On 10 Apr 2003 at 15:07, Drew Wutka wrote: > if IsNumeric(mid(strOriginal,i,1)) Or _ > (Asc(mid(UCase(strOriginal),i,1))>=65 And _ > Asc(mid(UCase(strOriginal),i,1))<=90) Then If you are using it on a lot of records, it would probably be worth optimizing it with: Dim strChar As String Dim lngAsc As Long ...... strChar = Mid$(strOriginal, i, 1) lngAsc = Asc(UCASE$(strChar)) If IsNumeric(strChar) Or (lngAsc >= 65 And lngAsc <= 90) Then strTemp=strTemp & strChar .... The Mid() and Ucase() functions return a variant, the Mid$() and Ucase$() functions return a string which is quicker to manipuate subsequentlty. Evaluating Mid$() once and then using a defined string for subsequent operations will also shave time. Actually, I suspect this would be even quicker: Dim strUnwanted as String ...... strwanted = "abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ1234567890" ....... strChar = Mid$(strOriginal, i, 1) If Instr(strWanted,StrChar) Then strTemp=strTemp & strChar -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Thu Apr 10 18:18:51 2003 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 09:18:51 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Strange happenings in Memo fields In-Reply-To: References: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE6305091B2@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com> Message-ID: <3E96887B.15366.12D81F@localhost> On 10 Apr 2003 at 13:36, David McAFee (Home) wrote: > My users have complained of typing 4 periods in a row .... turns into > what looks like a bold pipe | > > If you search the tables for a pipe, you will not find one, yet > searching for 4 periods will find the strange character. > > This happens in both (bound) forms and tables > > I don't know why though :( > Have you checked Tools-Autocorrect for a matching entry? -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Thu Apr 10 18:48:29 2003 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 09:48:29 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Print to PDF through code In-Reply-To: <076FC7A51D07D411BC02009027A1B45101ED3060@SEESAR3.corporate.gannettfleming.com> Message-ID: <3E968F6D.10208.2DF9C6@localhost> On 10 Apr 2003 at 12:16, Swisher, Timothy B. wrote: > > Hello group, how can I programmatically print to a .pdf without > changing default printers and all that. I want to be able to supply a > file name through code and have that report be saved as a .pdf. I > think I saw something in the Archives, but since Drew burnt his > neighborhood down, I can't go back and find them. Any help is > appreciated. Thanks. > Take a look at my free MakePDF at the site below There's a couple of example functions of how to use it with Word and Access. (Incidentally, for those interested - I've just added a new utility to the MakePDF page - SearchPDF which will search multiple PDFs for a given text string) -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Thu Apr 10 19:02:52 2003 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 10:02:52 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Iraq In-Reply-To: <00c701c2ffb9$d0733900$54dd31d2@OfficePC> Message-ID: <3E9692CC.4794.3B2507@localhost> Not THIS list - the OT list :-) On 11 Apr 2003 at 9:35, Software Design & Solutions P wrote: > well argued alternate views?? > Who would determine that that happens? > I mean no offence to anyone but I value the list and think politics > can quickly get people pretty upset. > > Are you saying this list is not for me because I say so? > > Kath > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Michael Maddison > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 8:25 AM > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Iraq > > > Kath, > > The rule for the OT list is what happens on the OT list stays on the > OT list. If any member feels they would be alienated by well argued > alternate views to their own then its not a list for them. > > cheers > > Michael M > > Personally, I don't think that politics should even have a place on > this OT list - too much chance of alienating members. > > > Kath Pelletti > Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. > Ph: 9505-6714 > Fax: 9505-6430 > SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. From harkins at iglou.com Thu Apr 10 19:03:26 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 20:03:26 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money was involved.... References: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82657@main2.marlow.com> Message-ID: <00f801c2ffbd$f28bdf70$f2e6ffcc@SusanOne> > > Susan, does that mean that I've been published before the WhoIs article went > out? ===========No. ;) Did theyask you to sign a contract? Did they pay you? Then No. ;) Susan H. From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Thu Apr 10 19:10:11 2003 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 10:10:11 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money was involved... . In-Reply-To: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82657@main2.marlow.com> Message-ID: <3E969483.23470.41D935@localhost> On 10 Apr 2003 at 12:33, Drew Wutka wrote: > http://www.dallasnews.com/localnews/city/collin/stories/041003dnccomck > inneyf ire.6905a.html > > The link above is the Dallas Morning News article about my apartment > fire. I'm actually pictured in the article....so my picture was in the > paper this morning....of course I'm smoking a cigarette (which didn't > make my Mom happy! ), and on the cell phone, but hey, I'm in the > paper. > > Susan, does that mean that I've been published before the WhoIs > article went out? > > That link will ask you to sign in, it's free, just the paper's way of > accounting to their advertisers I guess. > Sign in? H*ll - they now know more about me than my mother does (or would if the info had been correct) -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. From kathryn at bassett.net Thu Apr 10 19:13:57 2003 From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 17:13:57 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] well argued alternate views & politics In-Reply-To: <00c701c2ffb9$d0733900$54dd31d2@OfficePC> Message-ID: LOL! Kath, politics is the total reason this OT list got started. It happened during the infamous hanging chad time. The OT was equal to, or more, than AccessD, so we started this list. We've had some heated discussions on OT, with vastly differing viewpoints. William really loves to stir things up, but we are all family enough to not get *seriously* upset. At one point, Wm found himself getting upset enough that he voluntarily unsubbed for awhile to cool down (other reasons too, but that's beside the point). The list just wasn't the same without him, and he was welcomed back with open arms. We love having the pot stirred! There was only one person whom none of us liked, and we were all glad to see him go. Wm's definition of "thumper" might give you an idea of how intractable the guy was. We have widely held view of religion and politics, the two most "taboo" subjects there can be. But we respect each other enough to argue about it without animosity. Someone new might think we hate each other, but should soon realize that's not the case. So, bottom line, look at the arguments with that background, and make use of your delete key for the topics that upset you personally. There are plenty of threads that are more lighthearted. An periodically, when a "bad" thread has gone on for awhile, check it out, as I've seen political changed to Lexie stories (for instance), without a change of subject line. I don't participate as much as most on the list, as I'm not as well "up" on many of the topics, and don't have a viewpoint to share. But I wouldn't dream of unsubbing. -- Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA) "Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap" kathryn at bassett.net http://bassett.net > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Software > Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. > Sent: 10 Apr 2003 4:35:PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Iraq > > > well argued alternate views?? > Who would determine that that happens? > I mean no offence to anyone but I value the list and think politics can quickly get > people pretty upset. > > Are you saying this list is not for me because I say so? > > Kath From kathryn at bassett.net Thu Apr 10 19:15:53 2003 From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 17:15:53 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] RE: well argued alternate views & politics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sorry, I thought I was replying to an OT thread. Take it there, and don't reply here. -- Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA) "Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap" kathryn at bassett.net http://bassett.net > -----Original Message----- > From: Kathryn Bassett [mailto:kathryn at bassett.net] > Sent: 10 Apr 2003 5:14:PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: well argued alternate views & politics > > > LOL! Kath, politics is the total reason this OT list got started. It happened during > the infamous hanging chad time. The OT was equal to, or more, than AccessD, so we > started this list. From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Thu Apr 10 19:35:21 2003 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 17:35:21 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] OT Corel Office References: Message-ID: <3E960DC9.3040200@shaw.ca> Everyone I knew at Corel in Ottawa has left or been laid off. It was fine in the early 90's. Then Micheal Cowpland started having visions and insider trading problems. His ex partner, Sir Terrance Mathews at Mitel has restarted Mitel recently. For you golfer types he owns Druid's Glen in Wales Microsoft took a hundred million loss on its Corel share sales. ------------- Corel's office suite will likely disappear and its graphics software sold to another vendor, observers said following its invitation for a takeover bid from a venture capital firm Monday april 7 2003 Ottawa-based Corel said it had signed a non-disclosure and standstill agreement with Vector Capital's subsidiary, Vector CC Holdings, L.L.C , that could lead to an acquisition proposal once it has completed a due diligence review. Corel also said its board has engaged CIBC World Markets to seek out other potential offers. The move comes about two weeks after Vector Capital, based in San Francisco, bought out the 22.89 million shares from Microsoft, which it can convert for an approximately 20 per cent stake in the company. Corel said it will agree to anything $1.10 per share or higher. Vector has agreed to pay no less than $1.00 a share, but won't oppose a competing offer of $1.25 or higher. ------------- If you want latest news releases at business.ca go here and search corel http://www.plesman.com/index.asp?theaction=61&sid=51334 John Bartow wrote: >I can't remember where but I just read that Corel is looking for someone to >buy them. > >JB > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of >Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK >Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 1:04 PM >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >Subject: [AccessD] OT Corel Office > > >Anyone any inside contacts at Corel? > >Martin >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > From SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au Thu Apr 10 19:38:46 2003 From: SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au (Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 10:38:46 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] well argued alternate views & politics References: Message-ID: <004801c2ffc2$b7cf0010$54dd31d2@OfficePC> OK - (Gee - and William didn't strike me as a stirrer.....) I guess if you're done religion and politics before then you can handle Iraq - Happy moderating on that one. Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathryn Bassett To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 10:13 AM Subject: [AccessD] well argued alternate views & politics LOL! Kath, politics is the total reason this OT list got started. It happened during the infamous hanging chad time. The OT was equal to, or more, than AccessD, so we started this list. We've had some heated discussions on OT, with vastly differing viewpoints. William really loves to stir things up, but we are all family enough to not get *seriously* upset. At one point, Wm found himself getting upset enough that he voluntarily unsubbed for awhile to cool down (other reasons too, but that's beside the point). The list just wasn't the same without him, and he was welcomed back with open arms. We love having the pot stirred! There was only one person whom none of us liked, and we were all glad to see him go. Wm's definition of "thumper" might give you an idea of how intractable the guy was. We have widely held view of religion and politics, the two most "taboo" subjects there can be. But we respect each other enough to argue about it without animosity. Someone new might think we hate each other, but should soon realize that's not the case. So, bottom line, look at the arguments with that background, and make use of your delete key for the topics that upset you personally. There are plenty of threads that are more lighthearted. An periodically, when a "bad" thread has gone on for awhile, check it out, as I've seen political changed to Lexie stories (for instance), without a change of subject line. I don't participate as much as most on the list, as I'm not as well "up" on many of the topics, and don't have a viewpoint to share. But I wouldn't dream of unsubbing. -- Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA) "Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap" kathryn at bassett.net http://bassett.net > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Software > Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. > Sent: 10 Apr 2003 4:35:PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Iraq > > > well argued alternate views?? > Who would determine that that happens? > I mean no offence to anyone but I value the list and think politics can quickly get > people pretty upset. > > Are you saying this list is not for me because I say so? > > Kath _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ttom at accessyourdata.com Thu Apr 10 13:33:13 2003 From: ttom at accessyourdata.com (t tom) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 12:33:13 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Print to PDF through code References: <076FC7A51D07D411BC02009027A1B45101ED3060@SEESAR3.corporate.gannettfleming.com> Message-ID: <000201c2ffdf$76494b60$132b9244@cg.shawcable.net> Print to PDF through codegoto http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/attac-cg/ look at PDF And E-Mail Class Library for Access HTH Tomt ----- Original Message ----- From: Swisher, Timothy B. To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 10:16 AM Subject: [AccessD] Print to PDF through code Hello group, how can I programmatically print to a .pdf without changing default printers and all that. I want to be able to supply a file name through code and have that report be saved as a .pdf. I think I saw something in the Archives, but since Drew burnt his neighborhood down, I can't go back and find them. Any help is appreciated. 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I was just replying of what Example I've seen, but none the less, if it is repeatable (and only on 1 computer) maybe Jeff can check his auto complete. D -----Original Message----- From: Stuart McLachlan [mailto:stuart at lexacorp.com.pg] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 4:19 PM To: David McAFee (Home); accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Strange happenings in Memo fields On 10 Apr 2003 at 13:36, David McAFee (Home) wrote: > My users have complained of typing 4 periods in a row .... turns into > what looks like a bold pipe | > > If you search the tables for a pipe, you will not find one, yet > searching for 4 periods will find the strange character. > > This happens in both (bound) forms and tables > > I don't know why though :( > Have you checked Tools-Autocorrect for a matching entry? From tracy at ak.planet.gen.nz Fri Apr 11 01:00:33 2003 From: tracy at ak.planet.gen.nz (Tracy) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 18:00:33 +1200 Subject: [AccessD] Compact on close via code References: Message-ID: <00f101c2ffef$ab24af90$a94114ca@Notebook> Thanks for the replies guys - much appreciated. Cheers Tracy ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Skolits" To: Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 12:20 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Compact on close via code > You can find out what the checkbox is set to using the following.: > > Application.GetOption("Auto Compact") > > To set the flag on or off, use: > > Application.SetOption "Auto Compact", True > Application.SetOption "Auto Compact", False > > There is another argument for the SetOption function called "Auto Compact > Percentage" but I've never seen it work. > > You can get info if you search the online help for 'Compact', and select > "Set Options from Visual Basic" > > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Tracy > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 4:22 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Compact on close via code > > > Hi Listers > I know theres a checkbox for compacting on close, but is there a code > equivalent that can be put into an MDE file, my users have the runtime > version of Access 2000, all bypassing of the startup options are disabled, > so I need to put code into the close procedure of the mde. > Can anybody help ? > > And also it must be without user intervention as happens when the compact on > close checkbox is checked. > > Thanks Tracy > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From michael.maddison at ddisolutions.com.au Fri Apr 11 01:23:58 2003 From: michael.maddison at ddisolutions.com.au (Michael Maddison) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 16:23:58 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Iraq Message-ID: <6D8C24685B2A614481AD0BDAB0AC94F995CA@ddi-pdc.DDISolutions.ddisolutions.com.au> Kath, Sorry for the confusion! I was referring to the actual OT list. cheers Michael M Not THIS list - the OT list :-) On 11 Apr 2003 at 9:35, Software Design & Solutions P wrote: > well argued alternate views?? > Who would determine that that happens? > I mean no offence to anyone but I value the list and think politics > can quickly get people pretty upset. > > Are you saying this list is not for me because I say so? > > Kath > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Michael Maddison > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 8:25 AM > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Iraq > > > Kath, > > The rule for the OT list is what happens on the OT list stays on the > OT list. If any member feels they would be alienated by well argued > alternate views to their own then its not a list for them. > > cheers > > Michael M > > Personally, I don't think that politics should even have a place on > this OT list - too much chance of alienating members. > > > Kath Pelletti > Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. > Ph: 9505-6714 > Fax: 9505-6430 > SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk Fri Apr 11 03:13:47 2003 From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 09:13:47 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money was involved... . Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C831880395675F@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk> No hollering from me, O famous one! When we were evacuated recently because a building 15 feet away from ours collapsed, all I pulled out was the cats. Luckily we were only out for 24 hours. I'm just glad that you've found somewhere nice to go - you certainly deserve a silver lining. Roz -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: 10 April 2003 18:34 To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money was involved... . http://www.dallasnews.com/localnews/city/collin/stories/041003dnccomckinneyf ire.6905a.html The link above is the Dallas Morning News article about my apartment fire. I'm actually pictured in the article....so my picture was in the paper this morning....of course I'm smoking a cigarette (which didn't make my Mom happy! ), and on the cell phone, but hey, I'm in the paper. Susan, does that mean that I've been published before the WhoIs article went out? That link will ask you to sign in, it's free, just the paper's way of accounting to their advertisers I guess. Drew (P.S.- Thanks to everyone that has posted to the list, and sent emails to my personal account with support. It's much appreciated. The 'like family' approach to the List is one of it's most endearing values! Better stop now, so I don't get hollered at for long OT posts! ) _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk Fri Apr 11 04:10:01 2003 From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 10:10:01 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Remove Security Message-ID: <52339DF8DCA2A544AF660C8217EB7DCD0227F13A@MAILGATE.bury.gov.uk> Hi A97 Do i simply remove/clear the admin password to remove access internal security? If not what else is required? Thanks Richard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, together with any files transmitted with it, is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, or the person responsible for delivering to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited without liability on our part. By responding to this e-mail it is accepted that your response may be the subject of recording/monitoring to ensure compliance with the Council?s ICT Security Policy If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender. From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk Fri Apr 11 04:26:20 2003 From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 10:26:20 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Remove Security Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318803956763@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk> I'm a bit rusty on Access security, but as I recall, it depends on what sort of security was set up. By default, with a new install of Access security is not activated. Once it is activated however, if any user accounts bar the admin account have been created, you have to concern yourself with workgroups. The A97 Help file is fairly good on the subject. Roz -----Original Message----- From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] Sent: 11 April 2003 10:10 To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: [AccessD] Remove Security Hi A97 Do i simply remove/clear the admin password to remove access internal security? If not what else is required? Thanks Richard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------- This e-mail, together with any files transmitted with it, is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, or the person responsible for delivering to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited without liability on our part. By responding to this e-mail it is accepted that your response may be the subject of recording/monitoring to ensure compliance with the Council's ICT Security Policy If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk Fri Apr 11 04:39:31 2003 From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 10:39:31 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Remove Security Message-ID: <52339DF8DCA2A544AF660C8217EB7DCD0227F13C@MAILGATE.bury.gov.uk> As I just found out the clearing of the Admin password simply removes the prompt to enter user/password when Access loads - it does not remove security - (its seems you are 'logged on' as the User (user) which in my app did not have any permissions - to get the password back and the prompt you need persmission to do so, which I no longer have - I had to restore my mdw file to get back to where I was - anyway I think I'm going to abandon this one and revisit when my head clears. Richard > -----Original Message----- > From: Roz Clarke [SMTP:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] > Sent: 11 April 2003 10:26 > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remove Security > > I'm a bit rusty on Access security, but as I recall, it depends on what > sort > of security was set up. By default, with a new install of Access security > is > not activated. Once it is activated however, if any user accounts bar the > admin account have been created, you have to concern yourself with > workgroups. The A97 Help file is fairly good on the subject. > > Roz > > -----Original Message----- > From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] > Sent: 11 April 2003 10:10 > To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: [AccessD] Remove Security > > > Hi > > A97 > > Do i simply remove/clear the admin password to remove access internal > security? If not what else is required? > > Thanks > > Richard > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > ---------------------------------------- > This e-mail, together with any files transmitted with it, is confidential > and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. > If you are not the intended recipient, or the person responsible for > delivering to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received > this > e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or > copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited without liability on our > part. > > By responding to this e-mail it is accepted that your response > may be the subject of recording/monitoring to ensure compliance > with the Council's ICT Security Policy > > If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender. > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, together with any files transmitted with it, is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, or the person responsible for delivering to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited without liability on our part. By responding to this e-mail it is accepted that your response may be the subject of recording/monitoring to ensure compliance with the Council?s ICT Security Policy If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender. From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk Fri Apr 11 04:51:43 2003 From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 10:51:43 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Remove Security Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318803956766@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk> Richard Fair enough if you want to take a break on it! With the Admin password removed all users will be logged on as Admin, so you should have whatever permissions the Admin account had. Unfortunately standard procedure is to remove all permissions from the Admin account asap because anyone managing to bypass the workgroup will be logging in as Admin. If you have done this, then I think you'll be needing a crack to get into the database. :( Good luck Roz -----Original Message----- From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] Sent: 11 April 2003 10:40 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remove Security As I just found out the clearing of the Admin password simply removes the prompt to enter user/password when Access loads - it does not remove security - (its seems you are 'logged on' as the User (user) which in my app did not have any permissions - to get the password back and the prompt you need persmission to do so, which I no longer have - I had to restore my mdw file to get back to where I was - anyway I think I'm going to abandon this one and revisit when my head clears. Richard > -----Original Message----- > From: Roz Clarke [SMTP:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] > Sent: 11 April 2003 10:26 > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remove Security > > I'm a bit rusty on Access security, but as I recall, it depends on > what sort of security was set up. By default, with a new install of > Access security is > not activated. Once it is activated however, if any user accounts bar the > admin account have been created, you have to concern yourself with > workgroups. The A97 Help file is fairly good on the subject. > > Roz > > -----Original Message----- > From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] > Sent: 11 April 2003 10:10 > To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: [AccessD] Remove Security > > > Hi > > A97 > > Do i simply remove/clear the admin password to remove access internal > security? If not what else is required? > > Thanks > > Richard > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > -- > ---------------------------------------- > This e-mail, together with any files transmitted with it, is confidential > and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. > If you are not the intended recipient, or the person responsible for > delivering to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received > this > e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or > copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited without liability on our > part. > > By responding to this e-mail it is accepted that your response > may be the subject of recording/monitoring to ensure compliance > with the Council's ICT Security Policy > > If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender. > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------- This e-mail, together with any files transmitted with it, is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, or the person responsible for delivering to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited without liability on our part. By responding to this e-mail it is accepted that your response may be the subject of recording/monitoring to ensure compliance with the Council's ICT Security Policy If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From michael.broesdorf at web.de Fri Apr 11 04:59:22 2003 From: michael.broesdorf at web.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Michael_Br=F6sdorf?=) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 11:59:22 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] No debugging possible??? In-Reply-To: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318803956763@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk> Message-ID: Dear group, I have a menu bar item that calls a user defined function to open a specific form using docmd.openform "FormName". Depending on the user group membership, it might not be possible for the user to open that form. If I set a breakpoint in the function for debugging purposes, that breakpoint is ignored if the function is called by selection the menu bar entry. However, if I call the function from the immediate window, it stops at the breakpoint. Is that normal behaviour or am I missing something here? TIA, Michael From michael.broesdorf at web.de Fri Apr 11 05:03:46 2003 From: michael.broesdorf at web.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Michael_Br=F6sdorf?=) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:03:46 +0200 Subject: AW: [AccessD] Remove Security In-Reply-To: <52339DF8DCA2A544AF660C8217EB7DCD0227F13C@MAILGATE.bury.gov.uk> Message-ID: Richard, I don't know if that works but it might be worth trying: You can specify user and password on the command line. That way you might be able to open your MDB as a specific user even if the admin password has been cleared. Also, there are tools out there that can 'recover' user names and passwords from the mdw file (I don't know of any tool that recovers the SID as well...). You definitely have a problem if you do not have the mdw file or if the user account you need has been deleted from the mdw file. HTH, Michael -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Griffiths, Richard Gesendet: Freitag, 11. April 2003 11:40 An: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Betreff: RE: [AccessD] Remove Security As I just found out the clearing of the Admin password simply removes the prompt to enter user/password when Access loads - it does not remove security - (its seems you are 'logged on' as the User (user) which in my app did not have any permissions - to get the password back and the prompt you need persmission to do so, which I no longer have - I had to restore my mdw file to get back to where I was - anyway I think I'm going to abandon this one and revisit when my head clears. Richard > -----Original Message----- > From: Roz Clarke [SMTP:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] > Sent: 11 April 2003 10:26 > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remove Security > > I'm a bit rusty on Access security, but as I recall, it depends on what > sort > of security was set up. By default, with a new install of Access security > is > not activated. Once it is activated however, if any user accounts bar the > admin account have been created, you have to concern yourself with > workgroups. The A97 Help file is fairly good on the subject. > > Roz > > -----Original Message----- > From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] > Sent: 11 April 2003 10:10 > To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: [AccessD] Remove Security > > > Hi > > A97 > > Do i simply remove/clear the admin password to remove access internal > security? If not what else is required? > > Thanks > > Richard > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > ---------------------------------------- > This e-mail, together with any files transmitted with it, is confidential > and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. > If you are not the intended recipient, or the person responsible for > delivering to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received > this > e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or > copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited without liability on our > part. > > By responding to this e-mail it is accepted that your response > may be the subject of recording/monitoring to ensure compliance > with the Council's ICT Security Policy > > If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender. > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------- This e-mail, together with any files transmitted with it, is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, or the person responsible for delivering to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited without liability on our part. By responding to this e-mail it is accepted that your response may be the subject of recording/monitoring to ensure compliance with the Council?s ICT Security Policy If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Lembit.Soobik at t-online.de Fri Apr 11 05:13:15 2003 From: Lembit.Soobik at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:13:15 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! References: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82662@main2.marlow.com> <00a001c2ffb9$5b2ec6a0$54dd31d2@OfficePC> Message-ID: <033301c30012$f752b5b0$0300a8c0@S856> Can we have a little story written and put on our web site about this? It sure is a piece of our history, since not only a 'family member' but also our archives were involved. would be good to have a copy of that newspaper article if they allow that. Who volunteers, please? thank you Lembit Lembit Soobik ----- Original Message ----- From: Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 1:31 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! Drew - Sorry to hear about the fire. Glad to hear / see you're OK. Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: Drew Wutka To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 5:49 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! Ya, I think I'll by a lottery ticket...who knows...if I win...I'm getting a house with a T1! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 8:35 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! Pamela, You even dare face the computer before that first jolt of caffeine? Gawd, how brave of you! ----------------------- Drew, Sounds like you have had enough bad luck for a while. May you have good luck from now on! Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: PBudge at cbsol.com [mailto:PBudge at cbsol.com] Sent: Thursday 2003 Apr 10 08:25 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: The Archives are cursed! Oh gaaawd. . . *hangs head* SORRY! Honestly, I've GOT to start drinking that coffee earlier. ;-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))) DULY crossed. There. Is that better? ;-))))))))))))))))))))) Pamela G. Budge PBudge at cbsol.com Creative Business Solutions "William Hindman" "My fingers are dully crossed" Pamela ...hhhmmm ...too much keyboarding wore the edges off eh? :) William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." 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URL: From markH at bitgen.co.uk Fri Apr 11 05:16:26 2003 From: markH at bitgen.co.uk (MarkH) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 11:16:26 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Limit entry in unbound forms In-Reply-To: <002401c2ff61$8f48d1e0$6101a8c0@amd2k512> Message-ID: <000501c30013$69c9d740$e7a987d9@laptop> Thanks William... Mark -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman Sent: 10 April 2003 14:03 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Limit entry in unbound forms Mark ...try www.lebans.com ...he has sample code for implementing this functionality in a number of ways ...HTH :) William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: "MarkH" To: Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 4:47 AM Subject: [AccessD] Limit entry in unbound forms > Hello all... > > I am working with class modules and unbound forms in XP. What I need > to do is limit the length of text a user can enter. I would like to do > this as they type so that its not possible to add text beyond whats > allowed. No warning necessary, just stop at the limit. > > I intend to store the max length allowed as properties in the class so > that the frontend can retrive them without having to hard code them. I > did have a function that could do this but I am away from the office > for a few days so don't have it with me :o( (and I didn't write it in > the first place so have no memory of how it was done) > > Any help greatly appreciated... Also, if theres a better way to do it > I'd very much like to hear that too. > > Cheers > > Mark > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 From markH at bitgen.co.uk Fri Apr 11 05:33:56 2003 From: markH at bitgen.co.uk (MarkH) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 11:33:56 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Limit entry in unbound forms In-Reply-To: <00ec01c2ff9f$04dbecc0$115b2d3e@jester> Message-ID: <000001c30015$e780ff90$02df883e@laptop> Thanks Bert... Looking at it now. I think this is pretty much what I was after. Cheers Mark -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bert-Jan Brinkhuis Sent: 10 April 2003 21:22 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Limit entry in unbound forms Mark, In A2K I use a class module (From Access 2000 Developer's Handbook, Volume I (like commented in the code)) and on the change event from a control i like to limit the chracters for i put: Call adhLimitChars(ctlName, lngNumberOfCharacters) The class module is called basLimitChars Code: Option Compare Database Option Explicit ' From Access 2000 Developer's Handbook, Volume I ' by Getz, Litwin, and Gilbert (Sybex) ' Copyright 1999. All rights reserved. Private Declare Function SendMessageLong _ Lib "user32" Alias "SendMessageA" _ (ByVal hWnd As Long, ByVal wMsg As Long, _ ByVal wParam As Long, lngValue As Long) As Long Private Declare Function GetFocus _ Lib "user32" () As Long Private Const EM_SETLIMITTEXT As Long = &HC5 Public Sub adhLimitChars(txt As TextBox, lngLimit As Long) ' You actually CAN use SendMessage with ' Access controls, but you must remember that ' the changes you make are only active ' as long as this control has the focus. ' Therefore, if you want to limit the text in a text ' box, you MUST do it each time you enter the ' control. To be safe, the only place you can really ' do this is in reaction to the Change, BeforeUpdate ' or AfterUpdate events. Dim hWnd As Long Dim lngResult As Long Dim lngNewMax As Long ' Get the window handle for the current window. hWnd = GetFocus() ' Hey, what if there's ALREADY too much text in ' there? Limiting the text would make it ' impossible to type in there at all. You want ' to set the limit to be the max of the amount ' you want and the amount that's in there! lngNewMax = Len(txt.Text) If lngNewMax < lngLimit Then lngNewMax = lngLimit End If ' Send the message to the current text box ' to limit itself to lngNewMax characters. SendMessageLong hWnd, EM_SETLIMITTEXT, lngNewMax, 0 End Sub HTH Bert-Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "MarkH" To: Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 10:47 AM Subject: [AccessD] Limit entry in unbound forms > Hello all... > > I am working with class modules and unbound forms in XP. What I need > to do is limit the length of text a user can enter. I would like to do > this as they type so that its not possible to add text beyond whats > allowed. No warning necessary, just stop at the limit. > > I intend to store the max length allowed as properties in the class so > that the frontend can retrive them without having to hard code them. I > did have a function that could do this but I am away from the office > for a few days so don't have it with me :o( (and I didn't write it in > the first place so have no memory of how it was done) > > Any help greatly appreciated... Also, if theres a better way to do it > I'd very much like to hear that too. > > Cheers > > Mark > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. 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Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 From paul.hartland at fsmail.net Fri Apr 11 05:16:37 2003 From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 10:16:37 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] A2002 Query Question Message-ID: <20030411101637.QCAO18836.fep01-svc.ttys.com@localhost> To all, I have a query which displays the address of a job and the number of people allocated like so Name Add1 Add2 Town County PCode Staff B&Q 6 Somewhere Close Anywhere Everywhere ZZ86 7DY 53 How I actually want it to display is : Store Staff B&Q 53 6 Somewhere Close Anywhere Everywhere ZZ 86 7DY so the address appears as above and with any blank lines removed I tried something similar to the following : Store : Name & chr(13) & iif(Isnull(Add1),"",Add1 & chr(13)) & iif(Isnull(Add2),"",Add2 & chr(13)) etc but I then get each line of the address seperated by a control character, I'm sure I have used something similar before, but can't seem to find the code I used. Anyone any ideas on how to achieve this..... Thanks in advance.... Paul __________________________________________________________________________ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application. From gustav at cactus.dk Fri Apr 11 07:02:34 2003 From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 14:02:34 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] A2002 Query Question In-Reply-To: <20030411101637.QCAO18836.fep01-svc.ttys.com@localhost> References: <20030411101637.QCAO18836.fep01-svc.ttys.com@localhost> Message-ID: <2717661906.20030411140234@cactus.dk> Hi paul Replace Chr(13) with Chr(13) & Chr(10) /gustav > To all, > I have a query which displays the address of a job and the number of people allocated like so > Name Add1 Add2 Town County PCode Staff > B&Q 6 Somewhere Close Anywhere Everywhere ZZ86 7DY 53 > How I actually want it to display is : > Store Staff > B&Q 53 > 6 Somewhere Close > Anywhere > Everywhere > ZZ 86 7DY > so the address appears as above and with any blank lines removed I tried something similar to the following : > Store : Name & chr(13) & iif(Isnull(Add1),"",Add1 & chr(13)) & iif(Isnull(Add2),"",Add2 & chr(13)) etc > but I then get each line of the address seperated by a control character, I'm sure I have used something similar before, but can't seem to find the code I used. > Anyone any ideas on how to achieve this..... From michael.broesdorf at web.de Fri Apr 11 07:09:31 2003 From: michael.broesdorf at web.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Michael_Br=F6sdorf?=) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 14:09:31 +0200 Subject: AW: [AccessD] A2002 Query Question In-Reply-To: <20030411101637.QCAO18836.fep01-svc.ttys.com@localhost> Message-ID: How about Name & chr(13) & (Add1+chr(13)) & (Add2 + chr(13)) etc. (If you use + to concatenate strings, the result of strMyString + NULL will be NULL, whereas using & would return strMyString) HTH, Michael -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von paul.hartland at fsmail.net Gesendet: Freitag, 11. April 2003 12:17 An: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Betreff: [AccessD] A2002 Query Question To all, I have a query which displays the address of a job and the number of people allocated like so Name Add1 Add2 Town County PCode Staff B&Q 6 Somewhere Close Anywhere Everywhere ZZ86 7DY 53 How I actually want it to display is : Store Staff B&Q 53 6 Somewhere Close Anywhere Everywhere ZZ 86 7DY so the address appears as above and with any blank lines removed I tried something similar to the following : Store : Name & chr(13) & iif(Isnull(Add1),"",Add1 & chr(13)) & iif(Isnull(Add2),"",Add2 & chr(13)) etc but I then get each line of the address seperated by a control character, I'm sure I have used something similar before, but can't seem to find the code I used. Anyone any ideas on how to achieve this..... Thanks in advance.... Paul __________________________________________________________________________ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From carbonnb at sympatico.ca Fri Apr 11 07:13:37 2003 From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 08:13:37 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Remove Security In-Reply-To: <52339DF8DCA2A544AF660C8217EB7DCD0227F13A@MAILGATE.bury.gov.uk> Message-ID: <3E967931.13777.E9921@localhost> On 11 Apr 2003 at 10:10, Griffiths, Richard wrote: > Do i simply remove/clear the admin password to remove access internal > security? If not what else is required? If you are talking about Jet security, then the easiest way I have found (and that has only been in testing the BEU) is to not mess with the security settings at all, but crate a new blank database with the default mdw. Now open the db you want to unsecure, with it's correct mdw, and export everything to the new mdb. Now switch back to the default mdw and open your newly created db. It should have no security now. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca Experience is a wonderful thing. It enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again. From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Fri Apr 11 07:21:31 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 07:21:31 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Remove Security Message-ID: Richard, Read the Access Security FAQ on all the steps required. But the one of the important steps is to put admin back into the Admins group. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] Sent: Friday 2003 Apr 11 04:40 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remove Security As I just found out the clearing of the Admin password simply removes the prompt to enter user/password when Access loads - it does not remove security - (its seems you are 'logged on' as the User (user) which in my app did not have any permissions - to get the password back and the prompt you need persmission to do so, which I no longer have - I had to restore my mdw file to get back to where I was - anyway I think I'm going to abandon this one and revisit when my head clears. Richard > -----Original Message----- > From: Roz Clarke [SMTP:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] > Sent: 11 April 2003 10:26 > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remove Security > > I'm a bit rusty on Access security, but as I recall, it depends on > what sort of security was set up. By default, with a new install of > Access security is > not activated. Once it is activated however, if any user accounts bar the > admin account have been created, you have to concern yourself with > workgroups. The A97 Help file is fairly good on the subject. > > Roz > > -----Original Message----- > From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] > Sent: 11 April 2003 10:10 > To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: [AccessD] Remove Security > > > Hi > > A97 > > Do i simply remove/clear the admin password to remove access internal > security? If not what else is required? > > Thanks > > Richard From delliker at hotmail.com Fri Apr 11 07:52:54 2003 From: delliker at hotmail.com (Don Elliker) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 08:52:54 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Linking to various dbs through DAO /Access2k Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rgilimited at btconnect.com Fri Apr 11 05:05:07 2003 From: rgilimited at btconnect.com (Robin Lawrence) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 11:05:07 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Remove Security In-Reply-To: <52339DF8DCA2A544AF660C8217EB7DCD0227F13C@MAILGATE.bury.gov.uk> Message-ID: <000401c30011$d70f8b30$5373a8c0@local> Richard, The easiest way is to import everything into a new database Rgds Robin Lawrence -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Griffiths, Richard Sent: 11 April 2003 10:40 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remove Security As I just found out the clearing of the Admin password simply removes the prompt to enter user/password when Access loads - it does not remove security - (its seems you are 'logged on' as the User (user) which in my app did not have any permissions - to get the password back and the prompt you need persmission to do so, which I no longer have - I had to restore my mdw file to get back to where I was - anyway I think I'm going to abandon this one and revisit when my head clears. Richard > -----Original Message----- > From: Roz Clarke [SMTP:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] > Sent: 11 April 2003 10:26 > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remove Security > > I'm a bit rusty on Access security, but as I recall, it depends on what > sort > of security was set up. By default, with a new install of Access security > is > not activated. Once it is activated however, if any user accounts bar the > admin account have been created, you have to concern yourself with > workgroups. The A97 Help file is fairly good on the subject. > > Roz > > -----Original Message----- > From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] > Sent: 11 April 2003 10:10 > To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: [AccessD] Remove Security > > > Hi > > A97 > > Do i simply remove/clear the admin password to remove access internal > security? 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By responding to this e-mail it is accepted that your response may be the subject of recording/monitoring to ensure compliance with the Council's ICT Security Policy If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jmajchrz at nycap.rr.com Fri Apr 11 08:42:01 2003 From: jmajchrz at nycap.rr.com (Jeffrey Majchrzak) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 13:42:01 GMT Subject: [AccessD] Calling a Wizard from code Message-ID: <200304111342.h3BDgFep003317@ms-smtp-02.nyroc.rr.com> I have an client that wants to create reports on the fly. I found a wizard that will let me accomplish this. The only problem is that I need to unhide the database, go to reports tab, and click new. The wizard then shows up as an option to select. Is there any way that I can place a button on a form and activate this wizard from code? Thanks for all your help. Jeffrey Majchrzak --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Road Runner's Web-based e-mail. From harkins at iglou.com Fri Apr 11 09:01:00 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 10:01:00 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Calling a Wizard from code References: <200304111342.h3BDgFep003317@ms-smtp-02.nyroc.rr.com> Message-ID: <02b301c30032$cb198d00$f2e6ffcc@SusanOne> Almost all built-in tools can be placed on any toolbar, but not a form. Why not a custom toolbar? Susan H. > > > > I have an client that wants to create reports on the fly. I found a > wizard that will let me accomplish this. The only problem is that I need > to unhide the database, go to reports tab, and click new. The wizard then > shows up as an option to select. Is there any way that I can place a > button on a form and activate this wizard from code? > > Thanks for all your help. > > Jeffrey > Majchrzak > > --------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using Road Runner's Web-based > e-mail. > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From jmajchrz at nycap.rr.com Fri Apr 11 09:14:12 2003 From: jmajchrz at nycap.rr.com (Jeffrey Majchrzak) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 14:14:12 GMT Subject: [AccessD] Calling a Wizard from code Message-ID: <200304111414.h3BEEQep003565@ms-smtp-02.nyroc.rr.com> Using a toolbar would work fine. I have customized a toolbar before, but never adding tools. Could you please give me a quick rundown how I would do that? Thanks > Almost all built-in tools can be placed on any toolbar, but not a form. Why > not a custom toolbar? > > Susan H. > > > > > > > > > > I have an client that wants to create reports on the fly. I found a > > wizard that will let me accomplish this. The only problem is that I need > > to unhide the database, go to reports tab, and click new. The wizard then > > shows up as an option to select. Is there any way that I can place a > > button on a form and activate this wizard from code? > > > > Thanks for all your help. > > > > Jeffrey > > Majchrzak > > > > --------------------------------------------- > > This message was sent using Road Runner's Web-based > > e-mail. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Road Runner's Web-based e-mail. From john at winhaven.net Fri Apr 11 09:30:10 2003 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 09:30:10 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Calling a Wizard from code In-Reply-To: <02b301c30032$cb198d00$f2e6ffcc@SusanOne> Message-ID: Begs the question: can a wizard that creates a report be used in an MDE? JB -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 9:01 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Calling a Wizard from code Almost all built-in tools can be placed on any toolbar, but not a form. Why not a custom toolbar? Susan H. > > > > I have an client that wants to create reports on the fly. I found a > wizard that will let me accomplish this. The only problem is that I need > to unhide the database, go to reports tab, and click new. The wizard then > shows up as an option to select. Is there any way that I can place a > button on a form and activate this wizard from code? > > Thanks for all your help. > > Jeffrey > Majchrzak > > --------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using Road Runner's Web-based > e-mail. > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com Fri Apr 11 09:36:53 2003 From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 10:36:53 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] well argued alternate views & politics Message-ID: Whew! I thought, "I hope it wasn't me that they all hated!" But I remember thumper and he wasn't I...or is it I aren't he? I miss the OT list very much. I have been off of it since around October, and I still find myself thinking, "I've got to share this w/the list" or, "I've got to ask the list this." I just plain 'ol don't have the time to keep up w/it any longer. Leaving was like breaking an addiction. >>> kathryn at bassett.net 04/10/03 08:13PM >>> ...There was only one person whom none of us liked, and we were all glad to see him go. Wm's definition of "thumper" might give you an idea of how intractable the guy was. From harkins at iglou.com Fri Apr 11 09:54:06 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 10:54:06 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Calling a Wizard from code References: <200304111414.h3BEEQep003565@ms-smtp-02.nyroc.rr.com> Message-ID: <002b01c3003a$36c5ed30$e0e6ffcc@SusanOne> If you're in an ordinary mdb, just right-click any toolbar, choose Customize, click the Commands tab and almost all of the built-in tools are there. Just find the tool and drag it to the toolbar -- now, I don't know if the wizard tool you're referring to is available, but if it is, this is the easiest way to go about it. Forms have a property that automatically open a custom toolbar, which makes them even easier to work with. Susan H. > Using a toolbar would work fine. I have customized a toolbar before, but > never adding tools. Could you please give me a quick rundown how I would > do that? > > Thanks > > > > Almost all built-in tools can be placed on any toolbar, but not a form. > Why > > not a custom toolbar? > > > > Susan H. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have an client that wants to create reports on the fly. I found a > > > wizard that will let me accomplish this. The only problem is that I > need > > > to unhide the database, go to reports tab, and click new. The wizard > then > > > shows up as an option to select. Is there any way that I can place a > > > button on a form and activate this wizard from code? > > > > > > Thanks for all your help. > > > > > > Jeffrey > > > Majchrzak > > > > > > --------------------------------------------- > > > This message was sent using Road Runner's Web-based > > > e-mail. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > AccessD mailing list > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > --------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using Road Runner's Web-based > e-mail. > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Fri Apr 11 10:24:28 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 08:24:28 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Linking to various dbs through DAO /Access2k Message-ID: You don't need to set an attached attribute if you create a link. Access already knows it's attached. I don't understand what you're doing. Is this the same BE you were already using or a different one? Usually dropping and recreating a link is because you've changed back ends but it sounds like you're doing something else. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Don Elliker [mailto:delliker at hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 4:53 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Linking to various dbs through DAO /Access2k ok-tried that (it's commented) you can set the attributes if you want btw. still fails on the append. I have some thoughts I will try today and will advise. There's a cryptic note in the help about the tables being appended when the Be is opened. I am doing a delete of tabledefs prior to the attempt to append , that may be causing me a problem. _d >From: "Charlotte Foust" >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >To: >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Linking to various dbs through DAO /Access2k >Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 14:21:31 -0700 > >All you have to do is create the table and set its connect string and >sourcetable name, then append it to the TableDefs collection. You don't >set attributes. > >Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: Don Elliker [mailto:delliker at hotmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 9:04 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Linking to various dbs through DAO /Access2k > > > > I am trying to get linked to a selected database through code. I >get a failure on the append. The very informative 3251 "Operation is not >supported for this type of object". I need to delete all the attached >tables and relink to new ones. > > I am doing this: db_Be is the new database I want to link to. >dbcur is the front end I am running code from. > > Thanks, and How's everybody been?(don't answer that you'll kill >my hotmail account) > > _D > > For intI = 0 To db_BE.TableDefs.Count - 1 > Set TdfBE = db_BE.TableDefs(intI) > SysCmd acSysCmdUpdateMeter, intI > If Not TdfBE.Name Like "msys*" Then > Set tdfNew = dbCur.CreateTableDef() > With tdfNew > .Name = "newtable" & intI > '.Attribu! tes = dbAttachedTable > .SourceTableName = TdfBE.Name > .Connect = "MS Access;DATABASE=" & >strDBName > End With > 'dbCur.TableDefs.Append (tdfNew) > > dbCur.TableDefs.Append (tdfNew) > ! End If > Next intI > > > > > _____ > > Tired of spam? 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TIA Jim From delliker at hotmail.com Fri Apr 11 11:17:23 2003 From: delliker at hotmail.com (Don Elliker) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:17:23 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Linking to various dbs through DAO /Access2k Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmmtbig at bellsouth.net Fri Apr 11 11:44:34 2003 From: mmmtbig at bellsouth.net (Myke Myers) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:44:34 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Access ADP Error Message-ID: <002e01c30049$a1e33320$6501a8c0@tbig3> I upsized an application from an Access FE / BE to an Access ADP FE / Sql Server 2000 BE. A memo field for Notes became a 'ntext' field in Sql Server. A user is getting a message 'The text is too long to be edited' when she clicks into the Notes field in several records -- records with a lot of data stored in the Notes field. My understanding is that the Sql Server 'ntext' field is limited only by the storage of the server, so I'm guessing that the problem is with the Access Adp FE. 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Better yet, any of the mgt types here have an opinion on the impact it would have on down the road? I've got 10+ years in da business, mainly doing DBA/development in Access, SQL and .ASP. Your opinions are definitely wanted. Thanks! Randy @ ext. 473 From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Fri Apr 11 12:02:47 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:02:47 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] RE: [dba-SQLServer]Access ADP Error Message-ID: Myke, You may want to look at the user's memo fields and see if you can do some normalization on them. I had a user that was putting a lot of data into memo fields. But once I analyzed the data I saw that over 90% of them represented only about twelve different values. I added a new status field for those 12 values and left the memo field for the others. User liked the decimating of the amount of typing required to fill out the form. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Myke Myers [mailto:mmmtbig at bellsouth.net] Sent: Friday 2003 Apr 11 11:45 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com; dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Access ADP Error I upsized an application from an Access FE / BE to an Access ADP FE / Sql Server 2000 BE. A memo field for Notes became a 'ntext' field in Sql Server. A user is getting a message 'The text is too long to be edited' when she clicks into the Notes field in several records -- records with a lot of data stored in the Notes field. My understanding is that the Sql Server 'ntext' field is limited only by the storage of the server, so I'm guessing that the problem is with the Access Adp FE. Does an Access Adp textbox have a limit on the amount of data it can hold? All suggestions welcome. TIA, Myke From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk Fri Apr 11 04:59:37 2003 From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 10:59:37 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Error message - Record(s) can't be read; no read permission on 'M SysGroups'. Message-ID: <52339DF8DCA2A544AF660C8217EB7DCD0227F13D@MAILGATE.bury.gov.uk> Hi getting this error - user has read, write, insert and delete access for all tables in front end and BE I get when in this function Private Function IsInAdmin(Optional strUser As String = "") As Integer Dim grp As Group If strUser = "" Then strUser = CurrentUser For Each grp In DBEngine.Workspaces(0).Users(strUser).Groups <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< error here If grp.Name = "Admins" Then IsInAdmin = True Exit For End If Next End Function Can u help please Richard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, together with any files transmitted with it, is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. 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From chris at denverdb.com Fri Apr 11 12:06:46 2003 From: chris at denverdb.com (Chris Mackin) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 11:06:46 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] [dba-SQLServer]Access ADP Error In-Reply-To: <002e01c30049$a1e33320$6501a8c0@tbig3> Message-ID: I would try changing the Data Type to Text and setting the limit at like 5000 characters (Access Text datatype <> SQL Text datatype) I remember a long time ago having to do that with an Access 97 FE SQL 7 BE so it may not be the same issue, but worth a shot. Chris Mackin Denver Database Consulting, LLC www.denverdb.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Myke Myers Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 10:45 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com; dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] [dba-SQLServer]Access ADP Error I upsized an application from an Access FE / BE to an Access ADP FE / Sql Server 2000 BE. A memo field for Notes became a 'ntext' field in Sql Server. A user is getting a message 'The text is too long to be edited' when she clicks into the Notes field in several records -- records with a lot of data stored in the Notes field. My understanding is that the Sql Server 'ntext' field is limited only by the storage of the server, so I'm guessing that the problem is with the Access Adp FE. Does an Access Adp textbox have a limit on the amount of data it can hold? All suggestions welcome. TIA, Myke From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Fri Apr 11 12:09:28 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 10:09:28 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Linking to various dbs through DAO /Access2k Message-ID: Maybe the post lost something. All I saw was an Attached attribute, not AttachSavePwd. I don't use password protected dbs, so I can't help you there. Here's a routine from my libraries that works to create a single link. I've removed the error handling, etc., for clarity, but maybe this will help you get a handle on the problem. Private Function LinkTable(ByVal strTblName As String, _ ByVal strTblAlias As String, _ ByVal strConnect As String) Dim dbs As DAO.Database Dim tdf As DAO.TableDef Set dbs = CurrentDb() Set tdf = dbs.CreateTableDef(strTblAlias) With tdf .Connect = strConnect .SourceTableName = strTblName End With dbs.TableDefs.Append tdf Set tdf = Nothing Set dbs = Nothing ProcExit: Exit Function End Function Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Don Elliker [mailto:delliker at hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 8:17 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Linking to various dbs through DAO /Access2k I have a front end which needs to attach to various BEs, depending on the users requirement. The BE may or may not have the same tables - so I cannot just reset the connect and refreshlink (I want all the tables, regardless) The database is also pword protected (not secured) so I want to save the password (hence the Attribute dbAttachSavePwd- the latest one I'm using - if I don't need it , great! less work for mother). It does not like the append to the tabledefs collection when the table is new. There are further strange things I have come across - it seems that if the tabledef is 'nothing' you can still append it! It mysteriously replaces an existing tabledef (probably ordinally)-so that what it's named is not what it is. -don't think about it too much - it hurts. I WILL solve this - any clues or thought gratefully accepted _d >From: "Charlotte Foust" >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >To: >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Linking to various dbs through DAO /Access2k >Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 08:24:28 -0700 > >You don't need to set an attached attribute if you create a link. >Access already knows it's attached. I don't understand what you're >doing. Is this the same BE you were already using or a different one? >Usually dropping and recreating a link is because you've changed back >ends but it sounds like you're doing something else. > >Charlotte Foust > >-----Original Message----- >From: Don Elliker [mailto:delliker at hotmail.com] >Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 4:53 AM >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Linking to various dbs through DAO /Access2k > > > > ok-tried that (it's commented) you can set the attributes if you >want btw. still fails on the append. I have some thoughts I will try >today and will advise. There's a cryptic note in the help about the >tables being appended when the Be is opened. I am doing a delete of >tabledefs prior to the attempt to append , that may be causing me a >problem. > > _d > > > > >From: "Charlotte Foust" > >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > >To: > >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Linking to various dbs through DAO >/Access2k > >Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 14:21:31 -0700 > > > >All you have to do is create the table and set its connect >string and > >sourcetable name, then append it to the TableDefs collection. >You don't > >set attributes. > > > >Charlotte Foust > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Don Elliker [mailto:delliker at hotmail.com] > > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 9:04 AM > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: [AccessD] Linking to various dbs through DAO >/Access2k > > > > > > > > I am trying to get linked to a selected database through code. >I > >get a failure on the append. The very informative 3251 >"Operation is not > >supported for this type of object". I need to delete all the >attached > >tables and relink to new ones. > > > > I am doing this: db_Be is the new database I want to link to. > >dbcur is the front end I am running code from. > > > > Thanks, and How's everybody been?(don't answer that you'll >kill > >my hotmail account) > > > > _D > > > > For intI = 0 To db_BE.TableDefs.Count - 1 > > Set TdfBE = db_BE.TableDefs(intI) > > SysCmd acSysCmdUpdateMeter, intI > > If Not TdfBE.Name Like "msys*" Then > > Set tdfNew = dbCur.CreateTableDef() > > With tdfNew > > .Name = "newtable" & intI > > '.Attribu! tes = dbAttachedTable > > .SourceTableName = TdfBE.Name > > .Connect = "MS Access;DATABASE=" & > >strDBName > > End With > > 'dbCur.TableDefs.Append (tdfNew) > > > > dbCur.TableDefs.Append (tdfNew) > > ! End If > > Next intI > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Tired of spam? 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I had a user that was putting a lot of data into memo fields. But once I analyzed the data I saw that over 90% of them represented only about twelve different values. I added a new status field for those 12 values and left the memo field for the others. User liked the decimating of the amount of typing required to fill out the form. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Myke Myers [mailto:mmmtbig at bellsouth.net] Sent: Friday 2003 Apr 11 11:45 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com; dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Access ADP Error I upsized an application from an Access FE / BE to an Access ADP FE / Sql Server 2000 BE. A memo field for Notes became a 'ntext' field in Sql Server. A user is getting a message 'The text is too long to be edited' when she clicks into the Notes field in several records -- records with a lot of data stored in the Notes field. My understanding is that the Sql Server 'ntext' field is limited only by the storage of the server, so I'm guessing that the problem is with the Access Adp FE. Does an Access Adp textbox have a limit on the amount of data it can hold? All suggestions welcome. TIA, Myke _______________________________________________ dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver http://www.databaseadvisors.com From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Fri Apr 11 12:11:39 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:11:39 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Message-ID: Randy, As an old professor my opinion is an MBA won't hurt you, but it probably will not help you if you want to stay on the technical side of the business. With 10+ years experience your resume and your good references should get you an interview with any place worth working. All your references will say you walk on water, won't they? Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Randall Anthony [mailto:ranthony at wrsystems.com] Sent: Friday 2003 Apr 11 12:01 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Hi y'all. I'm looking for opinions/suggestions. I'm looking into an accelerated Master's degree from Cambridge College (I'm also looking into Univ of Phoenix online program). It's an MBA on tech steroids, so to speak. Besides proj mgt, etc., I'll learn Oracle 9i, Java, .net, OOP, XML, HTML, et al. Has any one gone through this? Better yet, any of the mgt types here have an opinion on the impact it would have on down the road? I've got 10+ years in da business, mainly doing DBA/development in Access, SQL and .ASP. Your opinions are definitely wanted. Thanks! Randy @ ext. 473 From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Fri Apr 11 12:15:01 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:15:01 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Error message - Record(s) can't be read; no read permission on 'MSysGroups'. Message-ID: Richard, The is a code example in the Access Security FAQ to do what I think you are trying to do. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] Sent: Friday 2003 Apr 11 05:00 To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: [AccessD] Error message - Record(s) can't be read; no read permission on 'MSysGroups'. Hi getting this error - user has read, write, insert and delete access for all tables in front end and BE I get when in this function Private Function IsInAdmin(Optional strUser As String = "") As Integer Dim grp As Group If strUser = "" Then strUser = CurrentUser For Each grp In DBEngine.Workspaces(0).Users(strUser).Groups <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< error here If grp.Name = "Admins" Then IsInAdmin = True Exit For End If Next End Function Can u help please Richard From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Fri Apr 11 12:22:06 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 10:22:06 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Error message - Record(s) can't be read; no read permission on 'MSysGroups'. Message-ID: What version of Access are you using? As I recall, you're going to have to open the workspace using a login with full security permissions in order to test the groups unless the group the currentuser is in already has those permissions. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 2:00 AM To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: [AccessD] Error message - Record(s) can't be read; no read permission on 'MSysGroups'. Hi getting this error - user has read, write, insert and delete access for all tables in front end and BE I get when in this function Private Function IsInAdmin(Optional strUser As String = "") As Integer Dim grp As Group If strUser = "" Then strUser = CurrentUser For Each grp In DBEngine.Workspaces(0).Users(strUser).Groups <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< error here If grp.Name = "Admins" Then IsInAdmin = True Exit For End If Next End Function Can u help please Richard ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------------------------- This e-mail, together with any files transmitted with it, is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. 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Thanks for the advice!! -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 1:12 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Randy, As an old professor my opinion is an MBA won't hurt you, but it probably will not help you if you want to stay on the technical side of the business. With 10+ years experience your resume and your good references should get you an interview with any place worth working. All your references will say you walk on water, won't they? Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Randall Anthony [mailto:ranthony at wrsystems.com] Sent: Friday 2003 Apr 11 12:01 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Hi y'all. I'm looking for opinions/suggestions. I'm looking into an accelerated Master's degree from Cambridge College (I'm also looking into Univ of Phoenix online program). It's an MBA on tech steroids, so to speak. Besides proj mgt, etc., I'll learn Oracle 9i, Java, .net, OOP, XML, HTML, et al. Has any one gone through this? Better yet, any of the mgt types here have an opinion on the impact it would have on down the road? I've got 10+ years in da business, mainly doing DBA/development in Access, SQL and .ASP. Your opinions are definitely wanted. Thanks! Randy @ ext. 473 _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Fri Apr 11 12:02:47 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:02:47 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] RE: [dba-SQLServer]Access ADP Error Message-ID: Myke, You may want to look at the user's memo fields and see if you can do some normalization on them. I had a user that was putting a lot of data into memo fields. But once I analyzed the data I saw that over 90% of them represented only about twelve different values. I added a new status field for those 12 values and left the memo field for the others. User liked the decimating of the amount of typing required to fill out the form. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Myke Myers [mailto:mmmtbig at bellsouth.net] Sent: Friday 2003 Apr 11 11:45 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com; dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [dba-SQLServer]Access ADP Error I upsized an application from an Access FE / BE to an Access ADP FE / Sql Server 2000 BE. A memo field for Notes became a 'ntext' field in Sql Server. A user is getting a message 'The text is too long to be edited' when she clicks into the Notes field in several records -- records with a lot of data stored in the Notes field. My understanding is that the Sql Server 'ntext' field is limited only by the storage of the server, so I'm guessing that the problem is with the Access Adp FE. Does an Access Adp textbox have a limit on the amount of data it can hold? All suggestions welcome. TIA, Myke _______________________________________________ dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com Fri Apr 11 12:33:28 2003 From: jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 13:33:28 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Differences - AXP and A2K Message-ID: Folks, I have an instance where I want to hide a rather complex form instead of closing it - to eliminate the load time. The user runs a "filter" form which allows them to select a set of clients / claims, select one, then "open" the claim form. they do this dozens of times a day. By hiding the claim form instead of closing it when they are done, I eliminate the load time which is significant. Basically, the form loads with all claims loaded, then filters down to one specific claim when "opened" from the filter form - literally a filter is applied to the claim form after opening. Applying this filter to an already open form in XP works correctly, the form filters to the new record. Doing so in A2K does not remove the filter. I vaguely remember running into this a year or more ago - having to set the AllowFilter property to no, then back to yes or something similarly obscure. Has anyone seen this and do you have the answer to how to make this work in A2K? Also, this is obviously an A2K problem, so how do I sense that this is an A2K FE so that I don't apply the fix to an AXP FE unnecessarily? John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------- Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com From delliker at hotmail.com Fri Apr 11 12:34:51 2003 From: delliker at hotmail.com (Don Elliker) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 13:34:51 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Linking to various dbs through DAO /Access2k Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From delliker at hotmail.com Fri Apr 11 12:47:37 2003 From: delliker at hotmail.com (Don Elliker) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 13:47:37 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Differences - AXP and A2K Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Fri Apr 11 13:27:57 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 13:27:57 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Bounced from AU and NZ Message-ID: Anybody else getting their postings to the list bounced for various list members from AU and NZ? I would expect that from FR and RU since my e-mail ends in US, but AU and NZ are our friends. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. 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Thanks - Tom From john at winhaven.net Fri Apr 11 13:54:03 2003 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 13:54:03 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Bounced from AU and NZ In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Bounced from AU and NZOT, OT! Fowl, I cry FOWL! Give a break, we've got friends in both places. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Wortz, Charles Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 1:28 PM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Bounced from AU and NZ Anybody else getting their postings to the list bounced for various list members from AU and NZ? I would expect that from FR and RU since my e-mail ends in US, but AU and NZ are our friends. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com Fri Apr 11 13:47:09 2003 From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 13:47:09 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Bounced from AU and NZ Message-ID: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB2338C726@TAPPEEXCH01> FOWL? Who are you calling chicken? -----Original Message----- From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 1:54 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Bounced from AU and NZ OT, OT! Fowl, I cry FOWL! Give a break, we've got friends in both places. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Wortz, Charles Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 1:28 PM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Bounced from AU and NZ Anybody else getting their postings to the list bounced for various list members from AU and NZ? I would expect that from FR and RU since my e-mail ends in US, but AU and NZ are our friends. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the originator of the message. This footer also confirms that this email message has been scanned for the presence of computer viruses. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifies and with authority, states them to be the views of Tappe Construction Co. 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(315) 699-3443 jimdettman at earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jeffrey Majchrzak Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 9:42 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Calling a Wizard from code I have an client that wants to create reports on the fly. I found a wizard that will let me accomplish this. The only problem is that I need to unhide the database, go to reports tab, and click new. The wizard then shows up as an option to select. Is there any way that I can place a button on a form and activate this wizard from code? Thanks for all your help. Jeffrey Majchrzak --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Road Runner's Web-based e-mail. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jim.hale at fleetpride.com Fri Apr 11 13:57:21 2003 From: jim.hale at fleetpride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 13:57:21 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Message-ID: <869379ABF177D4118D3100508B5EF87305B5B167@corp-es00> I certainly agree with Charles "if you want to stay on the technical side of the business." However, if you aspire to management and eventually senior management positions the combination of business knowledge and technical expertise is relatively rare and therefore can give you a decided edge (not to mention more $$). An MBA, or any degree for that matter, does not by itself grant business smarts but can certainly point you in the right direction. For example, the ability to bridge the gap as "translator" and "referee" between IT and accounting staffs by possessing in depth technical and business knowledge of both camps can make you close to indispensable in some companies ;-). (Indispensable also=$$). BTW, Translator/referee/system designer/curmudgeon is essentially my current job description although I arrived here bassackwards from your proposed path. (I earned my MBA/CPA first and became CFO of a NY stock exchange company before switching to the database/financial reporting side because it is definitely more fun). Good luck! Jim Hale -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 12:12 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Randy, As an old professor my opinion is an MBA won't hurt you, but it probably will not help you if you want to stay on the technical side of the business. With 10+ years experience your resume and your good references should get you an interview with any place worth working. All your references will say you walk on water, won't they? Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Randall Anthony [mailto:ranthony at wrsystems.com] Sent: Friday 2003 Apr 11 12:01 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Hi y'all. I'm looking for opinions/suggestions. I'm looking into an accelerated Master's degree from Cambridge College (I'm also looking into Univ of Phoenix online program). It's an MBA on tech steroids, so to speak. Besides proj mgt, etc., I'll learn Oracle 9i, Java, .net, OOP, XML, HTML, et al. Has any one gone through this? Better yet, any of the mgt types here have an opinion on the impact it would have on down the road? I've got 10+ years in da business, mainly doing DBA/development in Access, SQL and .ASP. Your opinions are definitely wanted. Thanks! Randy @ ext. 473 _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From my.lists at verizon.net Fri Apr 11 14:05:05 2003 From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:05:05 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Bounced from AU and NZ References: <657FB70438B7D311AF320090279C180103C5E503@EXCHMAIL> Message-ID: <00e101c3005d$439320a0$b615010a@FHTAPIA> OT?, Charles was inquiring wether or not anybody else is gettnig bounced messages sent back to them, I am not... normally these email are encouraged to be posted to the maintenance list. It appears that Charles is experiancing a regional error w/ his email. -Francisco http://rcm.netfirms.com On Friday, April 11, 2003 11:47 AM [GMT-8], Brett Barabash wrote: : FOWL? : Who are you calling chicken? : : -----Original Message----- : From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net] : Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 1:54 PM : To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com : Subject: RE: [AccessD] Bounced from AU and NZ : : : OT, OT! Fowl, I cry FOWL! : : Give a break, we've got friends in both places. : : -----Original Message----- : From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com : [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Wortz, : Charles Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 1:28 PM : To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com : Subject: [AccessD] Bounced from AU and NZ : : : : Anybody else getting their postings to the list bounced for various : list members from AU and NZ? I would expect that from FR and RU : since my e-mail ends in US, but AU and NZ are our friends. : : Charles Wortz : Software Development Division : Texas Education Agency : 1701 N. Congress Ave : Austin, TX 78701-1494 : 512-463-9493 : CWortz at tea.state.tx.us : : : : : ------------------------------------------------------------------------ : -------------------------------------------- : This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and : intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom : they are addressed. : If you have received this email in error please notify the : originator of the message. This footer also confirms that this : email message has been scanned for the presence of computer viruses. : : Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual : sender, except where the sender specifies and with authority, : states them to be the views of Tappe Construction Co. : : Scanning of this message and addition of this footer is performed : by SurfControl E-mail Filter software in conjunction with : virus detection software. From my.lists at verizon.net Fri Apr 11 14:11:12 2003 From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:11:12 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Re: Sql Server Stored Procedure Questions ... References: <4AAC675EBAF3D411BCA200508BCFAA8E02F2149A@NATEXCH1> <078a01c30059$3d72d110$6400000a@dogbert2k> Message-ID: <00e701c3005e$1e89d0a0$b615010a@FHTAPIA> as this is more of a sql question, I've forwared to the dba-sqlserver list... First, I encourage you to go to microsoft's sql site and download the latest Books on line commonly known as BOL. 2nd, to declare a variable in sql server, you use the keyword "Declare" such as DECLARE varMyVariable AS VARCHAR(10) in Sql 7 you add values to the varchar by using the keyword SELECT, but in 2000 you can use the keyword SET. to step through a returned recordset from a sproc (SP) you would use a cursor, tho I will warn you that they can take a lot of time and are usually not as efficient as other means (ie, memory, cleanup, etc) , think #Temp Tables if you really need to step through things, you'll find that things can be done sooooo much faster this way... any other questions reguarding SP's feel free to post to the dba-SqlServer list :D -Francisco http://rcm.netfirms.com On Friday, April 11, 2003 11:36 AM [GMT-8], Tom Adams wrote: : I've got a few very basic questions for Sql 7 stored procedures. : I've gone through all my saved AccessD's twice and can't figure it : out. I've left my main reference books at home and have 3 more : coming as we type. : : 1. How to declare variables in SP. I con't want to return them, : just use them further into the SP. : 2. How to gen a recordset or SP equvalent and step through it. : : Thanks - Tom : : _______________________________________________ : AccessD mailing list : AccessD at databaseadvisors.com : http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd : Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From my.lists at verizon.net Fri Apr 11 14:11:12 2003 From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:11:12 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] [dba-SQLServer]Re: Sql Server Stored Procedure Questions ... References: <4AAC675EBAF3D411BCA200508BCFAA8E02F2149A@NATEXCH1> <078a01c30059$3d72d110$6400000a@dogbert2k> Message-ID: <00e701c3005e$1e89d0a0$b615010a@FHTAPIA> as this is more of a sql question, I've forwared to the dba-sqlserver list... First, I encourage you to go to microsoft's sql site and download the latest Books on line commonly known as BOL. 2nd, to declare a variable in sql server, you use the keyword "Declare" such as DECLARE varMyVariable AS VARCHAR(10) in Sql 7 you add values to the varchar by using the keyword SELECT, but in 2000 you can use the keyword SET. to step through a returned recordset from a sproc (SP) you would use a cursor, tho I will warn you that they can take a lot of time and are usually not as efficient as other means (ie, memory, cleanup, etc) , think #Temp Tables if you really need to step through things, you'll find that things can be done sooooo much faster this way... any other questions reguarding SP's feel free to post to the dba-SqlServer list :D -Francisco http://rcm.netfirms.com On Friday, April 11, 2003 11:36 AM [GMT-8], Tom Adams wrote: : I've got a few very basic questions for Sql 7 stored procedures. : I've gone through all my saved AccessD's twice and can't figure it : out. I've left my main reference books at home and have 3 more : coming as we type. : : 1. How to declare variables in SP. I con't want to return them, : just use them further into the SP. : 2. How to gen a recordset or SP equvalent and step through it. : : Thanks - Tom : : _______________________________________________ : AccessD mailing list : AccessD at databaseadvisors.com : http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd : Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver http://www.databaseadvisors.com From sgsax at ksu.edu Fri Apr 11 14:15:10 2003 From: sgsax at ksu.edu (Seth Galitzer) Date: 11 Apr 2003 14:15:10 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Differences - AXP and A2K In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1050088514.31558.25.camel@sgsax-th4022c> John, Isuspect that any workaround you employ in the A2K version will simply have no effect, positive or negative, in the AXP version. Of course there is only one way to find out... If you really want to get the version of Access you are running in code, check out our good friend Dev Ashish. As usual, he has an in-depth solution here: http://www.mvps.org/access/api/api0065.htm Seth On Fri, 2003-04-11 at 12:33, John W. Colby wrote: > > Has anyone seen this and do you have the answer to how to make this work in > A2K? Also, this is obviously an A2K problem, so how do I sense that this is > an A2K FE so that I don't apply the fix to an AXP FE unnecessarily? > > John W. Colby -- Seth Galitzer sgsax at ksu.edu Computing Specialist http://puma.agron.ksu.edu/~sgsax Dept. of Plant Pathology Kansas State University From john at winhaven.net Fri Apr 11 14:29:10 2003 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 14:29:10 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Bounced from AU and NZ In-Reply-To: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB2338C726@TAPPEEXCH01> Message-ID: Bounced from AU and NZDoh! But yes, I am hungry right now :o) -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 1:47 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Bounced from AU and NZ FOWL? Who are you calling chicken? -----Original Message----- From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 1:54 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Bounced from AU and NZ OT, OT! Fowl, I cry FOWL! Give a break, we've got friends in both places. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Wortz, Charles Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 1:28 PM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Bounced from AU and NZ Anybody else getting their postings to the list bounced for various list members from AU and NZ? I would expect that from FR and RU since my e-mail ends in US, but AU and NZ are our friends. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the originator of the message. This footer also confirms that this email message has been scanned for the presence of computer viruses. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifies and with authority, states them to be the views of Tappe Construction Co. 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Thanks again for your advice. -----Original Message----- From: Hale, Jim [mailto:jim.hale at fleetpride.com] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 2:57 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs I certainly agree with Charles "if you want to stay on the technical side of the business." However, if you aspire to management and eventually senior management positions the combination of business knowledge and technical expertise is relatively rare and therefore can give you a decided edge (not to mention more $$). An MBA, or any degree for that matter, does not by itself grant business smarts but can certainly point you in the right direction. For example, the ability to bridge the gap as "translator" and "referee" between IT and accounting staffs by possessing in depth technical and business knowledge of both camps can make you close to indispensable in some companies ;-). (Indispensable also=$$). BTW, Translator/referee/system designer/curmudgeon is essentially my current job description although I arrived here bassackwards from your proposed path. (I earned my MBA/CPA first and became CFO of a NY stock exchange company before switching to the database/financial reporting side because it is definitely more fun). Good luck! Jim Hale -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [ mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us ] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 12:12 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Randy, As an old professor my opinion is an MBA won't hurt you, but it probably will not help you if you want to stay on the technical side of the business. With 10+ years experience your resume and your good references should get you an interview with any place worth working. All your references will say you walk on water, won't they? Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Randall Anthony [ mailto:ranthony at wrsystems.com ] Sent: Friday 2003 Apr 11 12:01 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Hi y'all. I'm looking for opinions/suggestions. I'm looking into an accelerated Master's degree from Cambridge College (I'm also looking into Univ of Phoenix online program). It's an MBA on tech steroids, so to speak. Besides proj mgt, etc., I'll learn Oracle 9i, Java, .net, OOP, XML, HTML, et al. Has any one gone through this? Better yet, any of the mgt types here have an opinion on the impact it would have on down the road? I've got 10+ years in da business, mainly doing DBA/development in Access, SQL and .ASP. Your opinions are definitely wanted. Thanks! Randy @ ext. 473 _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Apr 11 14:21:11 2003 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD)) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:21:11 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] RE: New web site In-Reply-To: <000201c2ffdf$76494b60$132b9244@cg.shawcable.net> Message-ID: Print to PDF through codeHi all: The DataBase Advisors is moving to a new web site format. Kathryn Bassett is stepping aside as the original site Web Master and the gap is being filled by myself, Jim Lawrence. I would like to personally thank her for her years of hard work and dedication and I am sure she will continue to provide advisory and specific project support. A group of other list members will also be assisting in providing project and site support. Their names will be listed on the new site. The new site will be in place as of this weekend. If you have any questions or comments please address them to this list. Thank you Jim Lawrence -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john at winhaven.net Fri Apr 11 14:38:31 2003 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 14:38:31 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Bounced from AU and NZ In-Reply-To: <00e101c3005d$439320a0$b615010a@FHTAPIA> Message-ID: It's the implied politics in the second sentence which makes it OT and which should give Charles 5 minutes in the penalty box. Hey, that's an idea! Can the moderators turn off someone's ability to email the list for a penalty period?? I'd volunteer to be a moderator then :o) JB Hmmm, how would that work if I'm in the penalty box myself... -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Francisco H Tapia Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 2:05 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Bounced from AU and NZ OT?, Charles was inquiring wether or not anybody else is gettnig bounced messages sent back to them, I am not... normally these email are encouraged to be posted to the maintenance list. It appears that Charles is experiancing a regional error w/ his email. -Francisco http://rcm.netfirms.com On Friday, April 11, 2003 11:47 AM [GMT-8], Brett Barabash wrote: : FOWL? : Who are you calling chicken? : : -----Original Message----- : From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net] : Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 1:54 PM : To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com : Subject: RE: [AccessD] Bounced from AU and NZ : : : OT, OT! Fowl, I cry FOWL! : : Give a break, we've got friends in both places. : : -----Original Message----- : From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com : [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Wortz, : Charles Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 1:28 PM : To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com : Subject: [AccessD] Bounced from AU and NZ : : : : Anybody else getting their postings to the list bounced for various : list members from AU and NZ? I would expect that from FR and RU : since my e-mail ends in US, but AU and NZ are our friends. : : Charles Wortz : Software Development Division : Texas Education Agency : 1701 N. Congress Ave : Austin, TX 78701-1494 : 512-463-9493 : CWortz at tea.state.tx.us : : : : : ------------------------------------------------------------------------ : -------------------------------------------- : This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and : intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom : they are addressed. : If you have received this email in error please notify the : originator of the message. This footer also confirms that this : email message has been scanned for the presence of computer viruses. : : Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual : sender, except where the sender specifies and with authority, : states them to be the views of Tappe Construction Co. : : Scanning of this message and addition of this footer is performed : by SurfControl E-mail Filter software in conjunction with : virus detection software. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Fri Apr 11 14:29:36 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 14:29:36 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Message-ID: Randy, Now that you state your intention is to work toward senior management, I can state that an MBA is almost a prerequisite these days to reach that goal. Also, experience int the operations side of an organization always helps. With your 10+ years on the technical side with an MIS, you should consider the information intensive industries as your target organizations since that gives you 10 years experience in the operational side already. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Randall Anthony [mailto:ranthony at wrsystems.com] Sent: Friday 2003 Apr 11 14:18 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Importance: Low Thanks Jim, I've been mulling over this for quite a bit now. That's exactly what my intent was, but it seems everyone I've spoken/wrote to in the tech side is saying ROI is nil. The minute someone sees MBA or MM it's "oh, this guys on the management track, we want somebody technical". With my MIS degree, I pretty much do the translator/referee thing quite a bit. Right now it's running about 8 to 1, "get some certs and experience in those cert skills, you don't need more education". Thanks again for your advice. -----Original Message----- From: Hale, Jim [mailto:jim.hale at fleetpride.com] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 2:57 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs I certainly agree with Charles "if you want to stay on the technical side of the business." However, if you aspire to management and eventually senior management positions the combination of business knowledge and technical expertise is relatively rare and therefore can give you a decided edge (not to mention more $$). An MBA, or any degree for that matter, does not by itself grant business smarts but can certainly point you in the right direction. For example, the ability to bridge the gap as "translator" and "referee" between IT and accounting staffs by possessing in depth technical and business knowledge of both camps can make you close to indispensable in some companies ;-). (Indispensable also=$$). BTW, Translator/referee/system designer/curmudgeon is essentially my current job description although I arrived here bassackwards from your proposed path. (I earned my MBA/CPA first and became CFO of a NY stock exchange company before switching to the database/financial reporting side because it is definitely more fun). Good luck! Jim Hale -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 12:12 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Randy, As an old professor my opinion is an MBA won't hurt you, but it probably will not help you if you want to stay on the technical side of the business. With 10+ years experience your resume and your good references should get you an interview with any place worth working. All your references will say you walk on water, won't they? Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Randall Anthony [mailto:ranthony at wrsystems.com] Sent: Friday 2003 Apr 11 12:01 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Hi y'all. I'm looking for opinions/suggestions. I'm looking into an accelerated Master's degree from Cambridge College (I'm also looking into Univ of Phoenix online program). It's an MBA on tech steroids, so to speak. Besides proj mgt, etc., I'll learn Oracle 9i, Java, .net, OOP, XML, HTML, et al. Has any one gone through this? Better yet, any of the mgt types here have an opinion on the impact it would have on down the road? I've got 10+ years in da business, mainly doing DBA/development in Access, SQL and .ASP. Your opinions are definitely wanted. Thanks! Randy @ ext. 473 _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Fri Apr 11 14:31:10 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 15:31:10 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Treeview not working when form opens References: <353A32F9B331D411BB8F00A0C9FC503701294B25@NT04> Message-ID: <000e01c30060$e84dd060$6101a8c0@amd2k512> Jim ...it would help to see your code for the Form Load event ...your question doesn't have enough info in it to help us help you :) William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Hewson" To: Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 11:29 AM Subject: [AccessD] Treeview not working when form opens > > I have spent way too much time on trying to figure this out... > A2K, Win2000 > > I have a treeview that does not populate when the form is opened. > It does populate when going from design view to form view. > If I open the queries that generate the nodes before the form opens it works > as intended. > What can be causing this problem? > > TIA > Jim > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From ranthony at wrsystems.com Fri Apr 11 14:56:22 2003 From: ranthony at wrsystems.com (Randall Anthony) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 15:56:22 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Message-ID: <5F21A4E8B8DD734992EF9E70AC9D3064128532@mail2.wrsystems.com> Thanks for that tidbit, Charles. I guess I'm just looking to be identified as a senior technical guy, but not a manager. I already work for management types who create my project schedules that couldn't create a form with one table using the Access wizard! -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 3:30 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Randy, Now that you state your intention is to work toward senior management, I can state that an MBA is almost a prerequisite these days to reach that goal. Also, experience int the operations side of an organization always helps. With your 10+ years on the technical side with an MIS, you should consider the information intensive industries as your target organizations since that gives you 10 years experience in the operational side already. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Randall Anthony [mailto:ranthony at wrsystems.com] Sent: Friday 2003 Apr 11 14:18 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Importance: Low Thanks Jim, I've been mulling over this for quite a bit now. That's exactly what my intent was, but it seems everyone I've spoken/wrote to in the tech side is saying ROI is nil. The minute someone sees MBA or MM it's "oh, this guys on the management track, we want somebody technical". With my MIS degree, I pretty much do the translator/referee thing quite a bit. Right now it's running about 8 to 1, "get some certs and experience in those cert skills, you don't need more education". Thanks again for your advice. -----Original Message----- From: Hale, Jim [mailto:jim.hale at fleetpride.com] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 2:57 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs I certainly agree with Charles "if you want to stay on the technical side of the business." However, if you aspire to management and eventually senior management positions the combination of business knowledge and technical expertise is relatively rare and therefore can give you a decided edge (not to mention more $$). An MBA, or any degree for that matter, does not by itself grant business smarts but can certainly point you in the right direction. For example, the ability to bridge the gap as "translator" and "referee" between IT and accounting staffs by possessing in depth technical and business knowledge of both camps can make you close to indispensable in some companies ;-). (Indispensable also=$$). BTW, Translator/referee/system designer/curmudgeon is essentially my current job description although I arrived here bassackwards from your proposed path. (I earned my MBA/CPA first and became CFO of a NY stock exchange company before switching to the database/financial reporting side because it is definitely more fun). Good luck! Jim Hale -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [ mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us ] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 12:12 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Randy, As an old professor my opinion is an MBA won't hurt you, but it probably will not help you if you want to stay on the technical side of the business. With 10+ years experience your resume and your good references should get you an interview with any place worth working. All your references will say you walk on water, won't they? Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Randall Anthony [ mailto:ranthony at wrsystems.com ] Sent: Friday 2003 Apr 11 12:01 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Hi y'all. I'm looking for opinions/suggestions. I'm looking into an accelerated Master's degree from Cambridge College (I'm also looking into Univ of Phoenix online program). It's an MBA on tech steroids, so to speak. Besides proj mgt, etc., I'll learn Oracle 9i, Java, .net, OOP, XML, HTML, et al. Has any one gone through this? Better yet, any of the mgt types here have an opinion on the impact it would have on down the road? I've got 10+ years in da business, mainly doing DBA/development in Access, SQL and .ASP. Your opinions are definitely wanted. Thanks! Randy @ ext. 473 _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From JHewson at karta.com Fri Apr 11 15:03:36 2003 From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 15:03:36 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Treeview not working when form opens Message-ID: <353A32F9B331D411BB8F00A0C9FC503701294B29@NT04> Thanks William, Below is my code for the OnLoad event. BTW there are 43 nodes for the parent, 740 for child 1 and 1290 for child 2. It's strange that the code works from design view to form view but not from the database window to form view. Thanks again Jim Dim db As Database Dim rst As Recordset Dim rstChild1 As Recordset Dim rstChild2 As Recordset Dim objNode As Node Dim strKey As String Dim strParent As String Dim strChild1 As String Dim strChild2 As String Set db = CurrentDb Set rst = db.OpenRecordset("qryTVWLocation") Set rstChild1 = db.OpenRecordset("qryTVWClients") Set rstChild2 = db.OpenRecordset("qryTVWVisits") 'Loop through qryTVWLocation and add each Location name to a node. With rst .MoveFirst If .RecordCount Then Do Until .EOF strKey = "L1" & ![LocationID] Set objNode = tvwClient.Nodes.Add(Key:=strKey, _ Text:=![CityState]) objNode.Sorted = True .MoveNext Loop End If .Close End With 'Loop through qryTVWClients and add each Client to a node. With rstChild1 .MoveFirst If .RecordCount Then Do Until .EOF strKey = "L2" & ![ClientID] strParent = "L1" & ![Location] 'identify the parent key for relative argument Set objNode = _ tvwClient.Nodes.Add(relative:=strParent, _ relationship:=tvwChild, Key:=strKey, _ Text:=![Client Code]) .MoveNext Loop End If .Close End With 'Loop through qryTVWClients and add each Visit to a node. With rstChild2 .MoveFirst If .RecordCount Then Do Until .EOF strParent = "L2" & ![ClientID] strKey = "L3" & ![VisitID] 'identify the parent key for relative argument Set objNode = _ tvwClient.Nodes.Add(relative:=strParent, _ relationship:=tvwChild, Key:=strKey, _ Text:=![Visit]) .MoveNext Loop End If .Close End With db.Close Set rstChild1 = Nothing Set rstChild2 = Nothing Set rst = Nothing Set db = Nothing -----Original Message----- From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 2:31 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Treeview not working when form opens Jim ...it would help to see your code for the Form Load event ...your question doesn't have enough info in it to help us help you :) William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Hewson" To: Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 11:29 AM Subject: [AccessD] Treeview not working when form opens > > I have spent way too much time on trying to figure this out... > A2K, Win2000 > > I have a treeview that does not populate when the form is opened. > It does populate when going from design view to form view. > If I open the queries that generate the nodes before the form opens it works > as intended. > What can be causing this problem? > > TIA > Jim > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jim.hale at fleetpride.com Fri Apr 11 17:13:44 2003 From: jim.hale at fleetpride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 17:13:44 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Message-ID: <869379ABF177D4118D3100508B5EF87305B5B1D7@corp-es00> Exactly! Think of your competitive advantage compared to other managers if you actually understand the technical aspect of what you are managing. They don't, you do, you win. The other part of the equation IMHO is that purely technical guys salary levels generally cap out below 6 figures. Good managers have significant growth potential in both $$ and in terms of career growth. Of course it is like anything else in life-- you have to enjoy it if you expect to excel. Few are more miserable than a "manager" who has risen to his "Peter principle" level. Jim H [Hale, Jim] -----Original Message----- From: Randall Anthony [mailto:ranthony at wrsystems.com] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 2:56 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Thanks for that tidbit, Charles. I guess I'm just looking to be identified as a senior technical guy, but not a manager. I already work for management types who create my project schedules that couldn't create a form with one table using the Access wizard! -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 3:30 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Randy, Now that you state your intention is to work toward senior management, I can state that an MBA is almost a prerequisite these days to reach that goal. Also, experience int the operations side of an organization always helps. With your 10+ years on the technical side with an MIS, you should consider the information intensive industries as your target organizations since that gives you 10 years experience in the operational side already. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Randall Anthony [mailto:ranthony at wrsystems.com] Sent: Friday 2003 Apr 11 14:18 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Importance: Low Thanks Jim, I've been mulling over this for quite a bit now. That's exactly what my intent was, but it seems everyone I've spoken/wrote to in the tech side is saying ROI is nil. The minute someone sees MBA or MM it's "oh, this guys on the management track, we want somebody technical". With my MIS degree, I pretty much do the translator/referee thing quite a bit. Right now it's running about 8 to 1, "get some certs and experience in those cert skills, you don't need more education". Thanks again for your advice. -----Original Message----- From: Hale, Jim [mailto:jim.hale at fleetpride.com] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 2:57 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs I certainly agree with Charles "if you want to stay on the technical side of the business." However, if you aspire to management and eventually senior management positions the combination of business knowledge and technical expertise is relatively rare and therefore can give you a decided edge (not to mention more $$). An MBA, or any degree for that matter, does not by itself grant business smarts but can certainly point you in the right direction. For example, the ability to bridge the gap as "translator" and "referee" between IT and accounting staffs by possessing in depth technical and business knowledge of both camps can make you close to indispensable in some companies ;-). (Indispensable also=$$). BTW, Translator/referee/system designer/curmudgeon is essentially my current job description although I arrived here bassackwards from your proposed path. (I earned my MBA/CPA first and became CFO of a NY stock exchange company before switching to the database/financial reporting side because it is definitely more fun). Good luck! Jim Hale -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [ mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us ] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 12:12 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Randy, As an old professor my opinion is an MBA won't hurt you, but it probably will not help you if you want to stay on the technical side of the business. With 10+ years experience your resume and your good references should get you an interview with any place worth working. All your references will say you walk on water, won't they? Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Randall Anthony [ mailto:ranthony at wrsystems.com ] Sent: Friday 2003 Apr 11 12:01 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Hi y'all. I'm looking for opinions/suggestions. I'm looking into an accelerated Master's degree from Cambridge College (I'm also looking into Univ of Phoenix online program). It's an MBA on tech steroids, so to speak. Besides proj mgt, etc., I'll learn Oracle 9i, Java, .net, OOP, XML, HTML, et al. Has any one gone through this? Better yet, any of the mgt types here have an opinion on the impact it would have on down the road? I've got 10+ years in da business, mainly doing DBA/development in Access, SQL and .ASP. Your opinions are definitely wanted. Thanks! Randy @ ext. 473 _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Fri Apr 11 17:24:04 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 15:24:04 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Message-ID: On the other hand, which is more likely to wind up in jail, the manager or the technical guy? Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Hale, Jim [mailto:jim.hale at fleetpride.com] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 2:14 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Exactly! Think of your competitive advantage compared to other managers if you actually understand the technical aspect of what you are managing. They don't, you do, you win. The other part of the equation IMHO is that purely technical guys salary levels generally cap out below 6 figures. Good managers have significant growth potential in both $$ and in terms of career growth. Of course it is like anything else in life-- you have to enjoy it if you expect to excel. Few are more miserable than a "manager" who has risen to his "Peter principle" level. Jim H [Hale, Jim] -----Original Message----- From: Randall Anthony [mailto:ranthony at wrsystems.com] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 2:56 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Thanks for that tidbit, Charles. I guess I'm just looking to be identified as a senior technical guy, but not a manager. I already work for management types who create my project schedules that couldn't create a form with one table using the Access wizard! -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 3:30 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Randy, Now that you state your intention is to work toward senior management, I can state that an MBA is almost a prerequisite these days to reach that goal. Also, experience int the operations side of an organization always helps. With your 10+ years on the technical side with an MIS, you should consider the information intensive industries as your target organizations since that gives you 10 years experience in the operational side already. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Randall Anthony [mailto:ranthony at wrsystems.com] Sent: Friday 2003 Apr 11 14:18 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Importance: Low Thanks Jim, I've been mulling over this for quite a bit now. That's exactly what my intent was, but it seems everyone I've spoken/wrote to in the tech side is saying ROI is nil. The minute someone sees MBA or MM it's "oh, this guys on the management track, we want somebody technical". With my MIS degree, I pretty much do the translator/referee thing quite a bit. Right now it's running about 8 to 1, "get some certs and experience in those cert skills, you don't need more education". Thanks again for your advice. -----Original Message----- From: Hale, Jim [mailto:jim.hale at fleetpride.com] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 2:57 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs I certainly agree with Charles "if you want to stay on the technical side of the business." However, if you aspire to management and eventually senior management positions the combination of business knowledge and technical expertise is relatively rare and therefore can give you a decided edge (not to mention more $$). An MBA, or any degree for that matter, does not by itself grant business smarts but can certainly point you in the right direction. For example, the ability to bridge the gap as "translator" and "referee" between IT and accounting staffs by possessing in depth technical and business knowledge of both camps can make you close to indispensable in some companies ;-). (Indispensable also=$$). BTW, Translator/referee/system designer/curmudgeon is essentially my current job description although I arrived here bassackwards from your proposed path. (I earned my MBA/CPA first and became CFO of a NY stock exchange company before switching to the database/financial reporting side because it is definitely more fun). Good luck! Jim Hale -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 12:12 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Randy, As an old professor my opinion is an MBA won't hurt you, but it probably will not help you if you want to stay on the technical side of the business. With 10+ years experience your resume and your good references should get you an interview with any place worth working. All your references will say you walk on water, won't they? Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Randall Anthony [mailto:ranthony at wrsystems.com] Sent: Friday 2003 Apr 11 12:01 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Hi y'all. I'm looking for opinions/suggestions. I'm looking into an accelerated Master's degree from Cambridge College (I'm also looking into Univ of Phoenix online program). It's an MBA on tech steroids, so to speak. Besides proj mgt, etc., I'll learn Oracle 9i, Java, .net, OOP, XML, HTML, et al. Has any one gone through this? Better yet, any of the mgt types here have an opinion on the impact it would have on down the road? I've got 10+ years in da business, mainly doing DBA/development in Access, SQL and .ASP. Your opinions are definitely wanted. Thanks! Randy @ ext. 473 _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jim.hale at fleetpride.com Fri Apr 11 17:59:23 2003 From: jim.hale at fleetpride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 17:59:23 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Message-ID: <869379ABF177D4118D3100508B5EF87305B5B1E1@corp-es00> You have a point. If the technology guy really is good he should never get caught. Jim H -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 5:24 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs On the other hand, which is more likely to wind up in jail, the manager or the technical guy? Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Hale, Jim [mailto:jim.hale at fleetpride.com] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 2:14 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Exactly! Think of your competitive advantage compared to other managers if you actually understand the technical aspect of what you are managing. They don't, you do, you win. The other part of the equation IMHO is that purely technical guys salary levels generally cap out below 6 figures. Good managers have significant growth potential in both $$ and in terms of career growth. Of course it is like anything else in life-- you have to enjoy it if you expect to excel. Few are more miserable than a "manager" who has risen to his "Peter principle" level. Jim H [Hale, Jim] -----Original Message----- From: Randall Anthony [mailto:ranthony at wrsystems.com] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 2:56 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Thanks for that tidbit, Charles. I guess I'm just looking to be identified as a senior technical guy, but not a manager. I already work for management types who create my project schedules that couldn't create a form with one table using the Access wizard! -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 3:30 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Randy, Now that you state your intention is to work toward senior management, I can state that an MBA is almost a prerequisite these days to reach that goal. Also, experience int the operations side of an organization always helps. With your 10+ years on the technical side with an MIS, you should consider the information intensive industries as your target organizations since that gives you 10 years experience in the operational side already. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Randall Anthony [mailto:ranthony at wrsystems.com] Sent: Friday 2003 Apr 11 14:18 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Importance: Low Thanks Jim, I've been mulling over this for quite a bit now. That's exactly what my intent was, but it seems everyone I've spoken/wrote to in the tech side is saying ROI is nil. The minute someone sees MBA or MM it's "oh, this guys on the management track, we want somebody technical". With my MIS degree, I pretty much do the translator/referee thing quite a bit. Right now it's running about 8 to 1, "get some certs and experience in those cert skills, you don't need more education". Thanks again for your advice. -----Original Message----- From: Hale, Jim [mailto:jim.hale at fleetpride.com] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 2:57 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs I certainly agree with Charles "if you want to stay on the technical side of the business." However, if you aspire to management and eventually senior management positions the combination of business knowledge and technical expertise is relatively rare and therefore can give you a decided edge (not to mention more $$). An MBA, or any degree for that matter, does not by itself grant business smarts but can certainly point you in the right direction. For example, the ability to bridge the gap as "translator" and "referee" between IT and accounting staffs by possessing in depth technical and business knowledge of both camps can make you close to indispensable in some companies ;-). (Indispensable also=$$). BTW, Translator/referee/system designer/curmudgeon is essentially my current job description although I arrived here bassackwards from your proposed path. (I earned my MBA/CPA first and became CFO of a NY stock exchange company before switching to the database/financial reporting side because it is definitely more fun). Good luck! Jim Hale -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [ mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us ] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 12:12 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Randy, As an old professor my opinion is an MBA won't hurt you, but it probably will not help you if you want to stay on the technical side of the business. With 10+ years experience your resume and your good references should get you an interview with any place worth working. All your references will say you walk on water, won't they? Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Randall Anthony [ mailto:ranthony at wrsystems.com ] Sent: Friday 2003 Apr 11 12:01 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Hi y'all. I'm looking for opinions/suggestions. I'm looking into an accelerated Master's degree from Cambridge College (I'm also looking into Univ of Phoenix online program). It's an MBA on tech steroids, so to speak. Besides proj mgt, etc., I'll learn Oracle 9i, Java, .net, OOP, XML, HTML, et al. Has any one gone through this? Better yet, any of the mgt types here have an opinion on the impact it would have on down the road? I've got 10+ years in da business, mainly doing DBA/development in Access, SQL and .ASP. Your opinions are definitely wanted. Thanks! Randy @ ext. 473 _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From artful at rogers.com Fri Apr 11 18:07:27 2003 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 19:07:27 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Startup Module not Startup Form Message-ID: <002c01c3007f$2248f880$8e01a8c0@Rock> Is there a way, without using macros, to specify the startup procedure to run, as opposed to the startup form to open? I haven't tried it yet, because it's so unelegant, but if nothing else works I guess I could perhaps create a startup form that's hidden and do what I need to do in there -- yuk! If I have to, I'll use a macro, but I'd rather not have to. In lots of other languages if a proc is called Main that's all you need. Is there an Access equivalent? This may be a stupid question, but in all my years of Access work I've never needed to do this before. A. From artful at rogers.com Fri Apr 11 18:07:27 2003 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 19:07:27 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Treeview not working when form opens In-Reply-To: <353A32F9B331D411BB8F00A0C9FC503701294B25@NT04> Message-ID: <002d01c3007f$2592a540$8e01a8c0@Rock> I would need to see the code to deduce the problem. What are you populating it with -- data? If so, I suggest that you grab my treeview stuff from our list's home. Using that code you can populate any level of a tree with a single line of code. A. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hewson Sent: April 11, 2003 11:29 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: [AccessD] Treeview not working when form opens I have spent way too much time on trying to figure this out... A2K, Win2000 I have a treeview that does not populate when the form is opened. It does populate when going from design view to form view. If I open the queries that generate the nodes before the form opens it works as intended. What can be causing this problem? TIA Jim _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com Fri Apr 11 18:25:14 2003 From: jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 19:25:14 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Startup Module not Startup Form In-Reply-To: <002c01c3007f$2248f880$8e01a8c0@Rock> Message-ID: Arthur, If you have startup, you generally have cleanup as well. As you know Access can hang if you don't cleanup properly. I use exactly what you are discussing - a hidden form. The form's OnOpen runs my init, and the form's Close runs my cleanup. That way the database simply cannot close without cleaning up. the database close has to close the form before it can close. The close event WILL fire. The cleanup will happen. Works well. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 7:07 PM To: AccessD Subject: [AccessD] Startup Module not Startup Form Is there a way, without using macros, to specify the startup procedure to run, as opposed to the startup form to open? I haven't tried it yet, because it's so unelegant, but if nothing else works I guess I could perhaps create a startup form that's hidden and do what I need to do in there -- yuk! If I have to, I'll use a macro, but I'd rather not have to. In lots of other languages if a proc is called Main that's all you need. Is there an Access equivalent? This may be a stupid question, but in all my years of Access work I've never needed to do this before. A. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ---------------------------------------------------- Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2448 bytes Desc: not available URL: From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Fri Apr 11 18:33:24 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 16:33:24 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Startup Module not Startup Form Message-ID: Access doesn't use a Sub Main the way VB and other VBA shell applications do. You're stuck with a startup form if you don't want to use a macro. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 3:07 PM To: AccessD Subject: [AccessD] Startup Module not Startup Form Is there a way, without using macros, to specify the startup procedure to run, as opposed to the startup form to open? I haven't tried it yet, because it's so unelegant, but if nothing else works I guess I could perhaps create a startup form that's hidden and do what I need to do in there -- yuk! If I have to, I'll use a macro, but I'd rather not have to. In lots of other languages if a proc is called Main that's all you need. Is there an Access equivalent? This may be a stupid question, but in all my years of Access work I've never needed to do this before. A. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From artful at rogers.com Fri Apr 11 19:32:48 2003 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 20:32:48 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Startup Module not Startup Form In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00ea01c3008b$0b552750$8e01a8c0@Rock> Ok JC I'll give that approach a try. It sucks, but you know what you're doing so I'll buy your advice. Since I've never done this, exactly how do you go about it? In the form-open code do you say me.visible = False? Forgive me the stupid questions but I've never had to go here before. A. > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] > Sent: April 11, 2003 7:25 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Startup Module not Startup Form > > Arthur, > > If you have startup, you generally have cleanup as well. As you know > Access can hang if you don't cleanup properly. I use exactly what you are > discussing - a hidden form. The form's OnOpen runs my init, and the > form's Close runs my cleanup. That way the database simply cannot close > without cleaning up. the database close has to close the form before it > can close. The close event WILL fire. The cleanup will happen. > > Works well. > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2460 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com Fri Apr 11 20:13:32 2003 From: jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 21:13:32 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Startup Module not Startup Form In-Reply-To: <00ea01c3008b$0b552750$8e01a8c0@Rock> Message-ID: Yep, I put me.visible = false in onOpen. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 8:33 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Startup Module not Startup Form Ok JC I'll give that approach a try. It sucks, but you know what you're doing so I'll buy your advice. Since I've never done this, exactly how do you go about it? In the form-open code do you say me.visible = False? Forgive me the stupid questions but I've never had to go here before. A. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [] Sent: April 11, 2003 7:25 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Startup Module not Startup Form Arthur, If you have startup, you generally have cleanup as well. As you know Access can hang if you don't cleanup properly. I use exactly what you are discussing - a hidden form. The form's OnOpen runs my init, and the form's Close runs my cleanup. That way the database simply cannot close without cleaning up. the database close has to close the form before it can close. The close event WILL fire. The cleanup will happen. Works well. << File: ATT00238.txt >> ---------------------------------------------------- Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2304 bytes Desc: not available URL: From harkins at iglou.com Fri Apr 11 21:02:00 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 22:02:00 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Windows support with Office 2003 Message-ID: <000701c30097$84b4f7e0$234afccc@SusanOne> Guys, I erroneously talked about losing Windows 3.ax support with Office 2003 -- and somebody caught it but I wasn't really paying attention. I meant to say Windows 9.x support and Windows NT -- sorry. Now, do you understand why I said it'd be a shock? I really don't know why I typed in 3 or why I didn't catch it -- but it did just hit me while reading something I'd written on the subject for somebody else. Sorry, Sorry, Sorry! Susan H. From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Fri Apr 11 22:07:47 2003 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 20:07:47 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs References: <5F21A4E8B8DD734992EF9E70AC9D306412852F@mail2.wrsystems.com> Message-ID: <3E978303.9040600@shaw.ca> I have looked at the syllabuses for some online MSc in Computer Science like Liverpool U. Most of them look like glorified MCSD's and very little math or science. If you are looking for job advancement; an MBA that is heavy on project management in MIS seems to be the big demand at the moment, you wouldn't want to do an MBA with emphasis on marketing. A guy I know in Victoria who retired from Project Management at Boeing was called back to teach a course once every two months He is charging 3 times his salary at retirement. They can't get outside project mangement so they are training inhouse. Randall Anthony wrote: >Hi y'all. I'm looking for opinions/suggestions. I'm looking into an >accelerated Master's degree from Cambridge College (I'm also looking into >Univ of Phoenix online program). It's an MBA on tech steroids, so to speak. >Besides proj mgt, etc., I'll learn Oracle 9i, Java, .net, OOP, XML, HTML, et >al. Has any one gone through this? Better yet, any of the mgt types here >have an opinion on the impact it would have on down the road? I've got 10+ >years in da business, mainly doing DBA/development in Access, SQL and .ASP. >Your opinions are definitely wanted. Thanks! > >Randy @ ext. 473 > >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > From Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Sat Apr 12 03:14:08 2003 From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK (Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 09:14:08 +0100 (BST) Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1050135248.3e97cad100064@hosea.qub.ac.uk> >From a developers stand point what do those of you working on the beta see as the major new features. Martin From shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru Sat Apr 12 04:17:34 2003 From: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 13:17:34 +0400 Subject: [AccessD] wztool80.USysRegInfo contents... Message-ID: <001201c300d4$657e7940$b501010a@DAISY.local> Hi All, Stan Leszinsky's "Access 97 Expert Solutions" book has some of the source code of MS Access 97 wizards on accompanying CD (see P.S.) but the USysRegInfo table of wztool80 is protected from viewing. Have anybody seen it somewhere "cracked"? - I'm curious about some useful info it may have... TIA for any info on subj, Shamil P.S. File names: Utility.Mda WzLib80.Mde WzMain80.Mde WzTool80.Mde Title: Viewable Wizard Code for Microsoft Access 97 Description: In the retail version of Microsoft(R) Access 97, you can't view the Visual Basic for Applications code for wizards. This special version of the wizards contains viewable wizard code for developers to use as a learning tool. To install the viewable wizards: 1. Close Access. 2. Create a backup directory for the wizard files that came with your retail version of Microsoft Access. 3. From your Access directory, move the files Utility.mda, WzLib80.Mde, WzMain80.Mde, and WzTool80.Mde to the backup directory. 4. Copy the self-extracting wizard file Wizard97.Exe to your Access directory and run the file. The viewable wizards are not supported in any way by Microsoft Corporation. Microsoft makes no guarantees about the performance of Microsoft Access when using the viewable wizards. Some wizard code remains locked to protect Microsoft's proprietary algorithms. -- e-mail: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru Web: http://www.smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Sat Apr 12 04:26:47 2003 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 19:26:47 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Windows support with Office 2003 In-Reply-To: <000701c30097$84b4f7e0$234afccc@SusanOne> Message-ID: <3E986877.12249.225C0C8@localhost> On 11 Apr 2003 at 22:02, Susan Harkins wrote: > Guys, I erroneously talked about losing Windows 3.ax support with > Office > 2003 -- and somebody caught it but I wasn't really paying attention. I > meant to say Windows 9.x support and Windows NT -- sorry. 9X understandable with it's underlying 8/16 bit architecture - but NT? There's still a LOT of NT servers working well out there :-( -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. From Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Sat Apr 12 04:58:33 2003 From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK (Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 10:58:33 +0100 (BST) Subject: [AccessD] wztool80.USysRegInfo contents... In-Reply-To: <001201c300d4$657e7940$b501010a@DAISY.local> References: <001201c300d4$657e7940$b501010a@DAISY.local> Message-ID: <1050141513.3e97e34968bc4@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Not sure but is this any use http://www.microsoft.com/AccessDev/Articles/ViewWiz.htm Martin Quoting Shamil Salakhetdinov : > Hi All, > > Stan Leszinsky's "Access 97 Expert Solutions" book has some of the > source > code of MS > Access 97 wizards on accompanying CD (see P.S.) but the USysRegInfo > table > of > wztool80 is protected from viewing. Have anybody seen it somewhere > "cracked"? - I'm curious about some useful info it may have... > > TIA for any info on subj, > Shamil > > P.S. > > File names: Utility.Mda > WzLib80.Mde > WzMain80.Mde > WzTool80.Mde > Title: Viewable Wizard Code for Microsoft Access 97 > > Description: > In the retail version of Microsoft(R) Access 97, you can't view the > Visual > Basic for Applications code for wizards. This special version of the > wizards contains viewable wizard code for developers to use as a > learning > tool. > > To install the viewable wizards: > 1. Close Access. > 2. Create a backup directory for the wizard files that came with your > retail > version of Microsoft Access. > 3. From your Access directory, move the files Utility.mda, > WzLib80.Mde, > WzMain80.Mde, and WzTool80.Mde to the backup directory. > 4. Copy the self-extracting wizard file Wizard97.Exe to your Access > directory and run the file. > > The viewable wizards are not supported in any way by Microsoft > Corporation. > Microsoft makes no guarantees about the performance of Microsoft Access > when > using the viewable wizards. Some wizard code remains locked to protect > Microsoft's proprietary algorithms. > > -- > e-mail: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru > Web: http://www.smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Sat Apr 12 08:37:27 2003 From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK (Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 14:37:27 +0100 (BST) Subject: [AccessD] Iraq In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1050154647.3e981697a8788@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Just watching on TV as two Iraq Generals walk up and into the Marines headquarters in Baghad. Martin From shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru Sat Apr 12 08:55:44 2003 From: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 17:55:44 +0400 Subject: [AccessD] wztool80.USysRegInfo contents... References: <001201c300d4$657e7940$b501010a@DAISY.local> <1050141513.3e97e34968bc4@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <074401c300fb$3ab5cc50$b501010a@DAISY.local> THNX Martin, But this one's USysRegInfo table is closed for curious user too :( Shamil ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] wztool80.USysRegInfo contents... > Not sure but is this any use > > http://www.microsoft.com/AccessDev/Articles/ViewWiz.htm > > Martin > > Quoting Shamil Salakhetdinov : > > > Hi All, > > > > Stan Leszinsky's "Access 97 Expert Solutions" book has some of the > > source > > code of MS > > Access 97 wizards on accompanying CD (see P.S.) but the USysRegInfo > > table > > of > > wztool80 is protected from viewing. Have anybody seen it somewhere > > "cracked"? - I'm curious about some useful info it may have... > > > > TIA for any info on subj, > > Shamil > > > > P.S. > > > > File names: Utility.Mda > > WzLib80.Mde > > WzMain80.Mde > > WzTool80.Mde > > Title: Viewable Wizard Code for Microsoft Access 97 > > > > Description: > > In the retail version of Microsoft(R) Access 97, you can't view the > > Visual > > Basic for Applications code for wizards. This special version of the > > wizards contains viewable wizard code for developers to use as a > > learning > > tool. > > > > To install the viewable wizards: > > 1. Close Access. > > 2. Create a backup directory for the wizard files that came with your > > retail > > version of Microsoft Access. > > 3. From your Access directory, move the files Utility.mda, > > WzLib80.Mde, > > WzMain80.Mde, and WzTool80.Mde to the backup directory. > > 4. Copy the self-extracting wizard file Wizard97.Exe to your Access > > directory and run the file. > > > > The viewable wizards are not supported in any way by Microsoft > > Corporation. > > Microsoft makes no guarantees about the performance of Microsoft Access > > when > > using the viewable wizards. Some wizard code remains locked to protect > > Microsoft's proprietary algorithms. > > > > -- > > e-mail: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru > > Web: http://www.smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Sat Apr 12 09:01:52 2003 From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK (Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 15:01:52 +0100 (BST) Subject: [AccessD] wztool80.USysRegInfo contents... In-Reply-To: <074401c300fb$3ab5cc50$b501010a@DAISY.local> References: <001201c300d4$657e7940$b501010a@DAISY.local> <1050141513.3e97e34968bc4@hosea.qub.ac.uk> <074401c300fb$3ab5cc50$b501010a@DAISY.local> Message-ID: <1050156112.3e981c50c757c@hosea.qub.ac.uk> WIll get back to. Will ask them directly. Martin Quoting Shamil Salakhetdinov : > THNX Martin, > > But this one's USysRegInfo table is closed for curious user too :( > > Shamil > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 1:58 PM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] wztool80.USysRegInfo contents... > > > > Not sure but is this any use > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/AccessDev/Articles/ViewWiz.htm > > > > Martin > > > > Quoting Shamil Salakhetdinov : > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > Stan Leszinsky's "Access 97 Expert Solutions" book has some of the > > > source > > > code of MS > > > Access 97 wizards on accompanying CD (see P.S.) but the > USysRegInfo > > > table > > > of > > > wztool80 is protected from viewing. Have anybody seen it somewhere > > > "cracked"? - I'm curious about some useful info it may have... > > > > > > TIA for any info on subj, > > > Shamil > > > > > > P.S. > > > > > > File names: Utility.Mda > > > WzLib80.Mde > > > WzMain80.Mde > > > WzTool80.Mde > > > Title: Viewable Wizard Code for Microsoft Access 97 > > > > > > Description: > > > In the retail version of Microsoft(R) Access 97, you can't view > the > > > Visual > > > Basic for Applications code for wizards. This special version of > the > > > wizards contains viewable wizard code for developers to use as a > > > learning > > > tool. > > > > > > To install the viewable wizards: > > > 1. Close Access. > > > 2. Create a backup directory for the wizard files that came with > your > > > retail > > > version of Microsoft Access. > > > 3. From your Access directory, move the files Utility.mda, > > > WzLib80.Mde, > > > WzMain80.Mde, and WzTool80.Mde to the backup directory. > > > 4. Copy the self-extracting wizard file Wizard97.Exe to your > Access > > > directory and run the file. > > > > > > The viewable wizards are not supported in any way by Microsoft > > > Corporation. > > > Microsoft makes no guarantees about the performance of Microsoft > Access > > > when > > > using the viewable wizards. Some wizard code remains locked to > protect > > > Microsoft's proprietary algorithms. > > > > > > -- > > > e-mail: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru > > > Web: http://www.smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > AccessD mailing list > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From d.dick at uws.edu.au Sat Apr 12 09:33:06 2003 From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 00:33:06 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] A2K: OpenRecordset doesn't Message-ID: <000801c30100$70a8bc00$17669a89@DDICK> Hello all Can anyone shed some light on why my code fails on the line... Set rst = dbs.OpenRecordset("SELECT * FROM tblMyTable;", dbOpenDynaset) and I get the error "Run time error 13 'Type Mismatch" Many thanks Darren ________________________________ Public Sub MySub() Dim dbs As Database Dim rst As Recordset Set dbs = CurrentDb ' Set rst = dbs.OpenRecordset("SELECT * FROM tblMyTable;", dbOpenDynaset) ' With rst .MoveLast Debug.Print .RecordCount .Close End With Set dbs = Nothing End Sub ________________________________ From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Sat Apr 12 09:28:54 2003 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 15:28:54 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Iraq In-Reply-To: <1050154647.3e981697a8788@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <001901c300ff$d8996d60$b274d0d5@andypc> Meant for the OT list perhaps Martin? Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Mwp.Reid at queens-belfast.ac.uk > Sent: 12 April 2003 14:37 > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Iraq > > > Just watching on TV as two Iraq Generals walk up and into the Marines > headquarters in Baghad. > > Martin > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd > Website: > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Sat Apr 12 09:43:46 2003 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 15:43:46 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] A2K: OpenRecordset doesn't In-Reply-To: <000801c30100$70a8bc00$17669a89@DDICK> Message-ID: <001a01c30101$ec7e4880$b274d0d5@andypc> Hiya Darren. Burning the night-time oil again? Nothing wrong with that line that I can see. Give us a bit more can you? Is dbs set right? Is rst dim'd right? As it's A2K it's not that rst needs dimming as DAO.Recordset rather than just recordset is it? Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren DICK > Sent: 12 April 2003 15:33 > To: AccessD List > Subject: [AccessD] A2K: OpenRecordset doesn't > > > Hello all > Can anyone shed some light on why my code fails on > the line... > Set rst = dbs.OpenRecordset("SELECT * FROM > tblMyTable;", dbOpenDynaset) > and I get the error "Run time error 13 'Type > Mismatch" > > Many thanks > Darren > > ________________________________ > Public Sub MySub() > Dim dbs As Database > Dim rst As Recordset > > Set dbs = CurrentDb > ' > Set rst = dbs.OpenRecordset("SELECT * FROM > tblMyTable;", dbOpenDynaset) > ' > > With rst > .MoveLast > Debug.Print .RecordCount > .Close > End With > > Set dbs = Nothing > > End Sub > > > ________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd > Website: > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru Sat Apr 12 09:47:53 2003 From: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 18:47:53 +0400 Subject: [AccessD] wztool80.USysRegInfo contents... References: <001201c300d4$657e7940$b501010a@DAISY.local><1050141513.3e97e34968bc4@hosea.qub.ac.uk><074401c300fb$3ab5cc50$b501010a@DAISY.local> <1050156112.3e981c50c757c@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <075e01c30102$838f39f0$b501010a@DAISY.local> >Will ask them directly. TIA. It would be nice to have this info - after all this is MS Access 97 - it's time for them to open some secrets, isn't it? Shamil ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 6:01 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] wztool80.USysRegInfo contents... > WIll get back to. Will ask them directly. > > Martin > > > Quoting Shamil Salakhetdinov : > > > THNX Martin, > > > > But this one's USysRegInfo table is closed for curious user too :( > > > > Shamil > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 1:58 PM > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] wztool80.USysRegInfo contents... > > > > > > > Not sure but is this any use > > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/AccessDev/Articles/ViewWiz.htm > > > > > > Martin > > > > > > Quoting Shamil Salakhetdinov : > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > Stan Leszinsky's "Access 97 Expert Solutions" book has some of the > > > > source > > > > code of MS > > > > Access 97 wizards on accompanying CD (see P.S.) but the > > USysRegInfo > > > > table > > > > of > > > > wztool80 is protected from viewing. Have anybody seen it somewhere > > > > "cracked"? - I'm curious about some useful info it may have... > > > > > > > > TIA for any info on subj, > > > > Shamil > > > > > > > > P.S. > > > > > > > > File names: Utility.Mda > > > > WzLib80.Mde > > > > WzMain80.Mde > > > > WzTool80.Mde > > > > Title: Viewable Wizard Code for Microsoft Access 97 > > > > > > > > Description: > > > > In the retail version of Microsoft(R) Access 97, you can't view > > the > > > > Visual > > > > Basic for Applications code for wizards. This special version of > > the > > > > wizards contains viewable wizard code for developers to use as a > > > > learning > > > > tool. > > > > > > > > To install the viewable wizards: > > > > 1. Close Access. > > > > 2. Create a backup directory for the wizard files that came with > > your > > > > retail > > > > version of Microsoft Access. > > > > 3. From your Access directory, move the files Utility.mda, > > > > WzLib80.Mde, > > > > WzMain80.Mde, and WzTool80.Mde to the backup directory. > > > > 4. Copy the self-extracting wizard file Wizard97.Exe to your > > Access > > > > directory and run the file. > > > > > > > > The viewable wizards are not supported in any way by Microsoft > > > > Corporation. > > > > Microsoft makes no guarantees about the performance of Microsoft > > Access > > > > when > > > > using the viewable wizards. Some wizard code remains locked to > > protect > > > > Microsoft's proprietary algorithms. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > e-mail: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru > > > > Web: http://www.smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > AccessD mailing list > > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > AccessD mailing list > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Sat Apr 12 09:48:23 2003 From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK (Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 15:48:23 +0100 (BST) Subject: [AccessD] Iraq In-Reply-To: <001901c300ff$d8996d60$b274d0d5@andypc> References: <001901c300ff$d8996d60$b274d0d5@andypc> Message-ID: <1050158903.3e9827377702d@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Sorry. Yes indeed. Martin Quoting Andy Lacey : > Meant for the OT list perhaps Martin? > > Andy Lacey > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > > Mwp.Reid at queens-belfast.ac.uk > > Sent: 12 April 2003 14:37 > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: [AccessD] Iraq > > > > > > Just watching on TV as two Iraq Generals walk up and into the Marines > > > headquarters in Baghad. > > > > Martin > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd > > Website: > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com Sat Apr 12 09:50:19 2003 From: jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 10:50:19 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Differences - AXP and A2K In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well the fix was simple. The initial form that built up the filter (frmClientSrch) had been setting the Filter property on the actual form that displayed the filtered record (frmResults) to something similar to: "[CL_LName] Like Forms!frmClientSearch!txtLName". Thus if they searched on LName several times in a row, the second and subsequent searches never caused an actual change in the string sent to the Filter property. The fix was to evaluate "Forms!frmClientSearch!txtLName" down to an actual value and send a string that looked like "[CL_LName]like SM*". Thus presumably the next filter would look different - perhaps "[CL_LName]= Col*". Since the actual string placed in the Filter property is different, A2K re-evaluates the filter and displays a different set of records. AXP re-evaluated the filter in both cases so I could sent it "[CL_LName] Like Forms!frmClientSearch!txtLName" over and over and each time it would look back at the frmClientSearch to see what txtLastName looked like. Just thought you might like to know that this difference exists and what I discovered. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 1:33 PM To: AccessD Subject: [AccessD] Differences - AXP and A2K Folks, I have an instance where I want to hide a rather complex form instead of closing it - to eliminate the load time. The user runs a "filter" form which allows them to select a set of clients / claims, select one, then "open" the claim form. they do this dozens of times a day. By hiding the claim form instead of closing it when they are done, I eliminate the load time which is significant. Basically, the form loads with all claims loaded, then filters down to one specific claim when "opened" from the filter form - literally a filter is applied to the claim form after opening. Applying this filter to an already open form in XP works correctly, the form filters to the new record. Doing so in A2K does not remove the filter. I vaguely remember running into this a year or more ago - having to set the AllowFilter property to no, then back to yes or something similarly obscure. Has anyone seen this and do you have the answer to how to make this work in A2K? Also, this is obviously an A2K problem, so how do I sense that this is an A2K FE so that I don't apply the fix to an AXP FE unnecessarily? John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------- Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ---------------------------------------------------- Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 3096 bytes Desc: not available URL: From harkins at iglou.com Sat Apr 12 09:51:44 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 10:51:44 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] A2K: OpenRecordset doesn't References: <000801c30100$70a8bc00$17669a89@DDICK> Message-ID: <002701c30103$0af27f60$3e4afccc@SusanOne> Well, you don't need the ; at the end of the SQL statement, but don't know that it's your problem. Susan H. > Can anyone shed some light on why my code fails on > the line... > Set rst = dbs.OpenRecordset("SELECT * FROM > tblMyTable;", dbOpenDynaset) > and I get the error "Run time error 13 'Type > Mismatch" From d.dick at uws.edu.au Sat Apr 12 09:59:56 2003 From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 00:59:56 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] A2K: OpenRecordset doesn't References: <000801c30100$70a8bc00$17669a89@DDICK> <002701c30103$0af27f60$3e4afccc@SusanOne> Message-ID: <00c901c30104$2f1443a0$17669a89@DDICK> Thanks to all who replied. I went to the (not) Help and am now using some plagiarised code directly for ADO It seems to work Thanks Susan and Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Harkins" To: Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 12:51 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: OpenRecordset doesn't > > Well, you don't need the ; at the end of the SQL statement, but don't know > that it's your problem. > > Susan H. > > > > Can anyone shed some light on why my code fails on > > the line... > > Set rst = dbs.OpenRecordset("SELECT * FROM > > tblMyTable;", dbOpenDynaset) > > and I get the error "Run time error 13 'Type > > Mismatch" > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/acces sd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Sat Apr 12 10:04:02 2003 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 16:04:02 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] A2K: OpenRecordset doesn't In-Reply-To: <00c901c30104$2f1443a0$17669a89@DDICK> Message-ID: <002101c30104$c1619280$b274d0d5@andypc> Darren You don't have to use ADO if you don't want to. You just have to dim your objects specifically as DAO ones (or, I believe, open the list of references and move DAO up to above ADO in whch case it becomes the default). After that you can go on using DAO same as ever. Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren DICK > Sent: 12 April 2003 16:00 > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: OpenRecordset doesn't > > > Thanks to all who replied. > > I went to the (not) Help and am now using some > plagiarised code directly for ADO > It seems to work > > Thanks Susan and Andy > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan Harkins" > To: > Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 12:51 AM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: OpenRecordset doesn't > > > > > > Well, you don't need the ; at the end of the SQL > statement, but don't know > > that it's your problem. > > > > Susan H. > > > > > > > Can anyone shed some light on why my code > fails on > > > the line... > > > Set rst = dbs.OpenRecordset("SELECT * FROM > > > tblMyTable;", dbOpenDynaset) > > > and I get the error "Run time error 13 'Type > > > Mismatch" > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/acces > sd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd > Website: > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Sat Apr 12 13:33:47 2003 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 11:33:47 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] A2K: OpenRecordset doesn't References: <002101c30104$c1619280$b274d0d5@andypc> Message-ID: <3E985C0B.3020905@shaw.ca> Or you can have a look at this. How to use ADO connection strings with DAO Convert an ADO Connection object to a DAO Database Object http://www.trigeminal.com/lang/1033/codes.asp?ItemID=1#1 Andy Lacey wrote: >Darren >You don't have to use ADO if you don't want to. You just have to dim >your objects specifically as DAO ones (or, I believe, open the list of >references and move DAO up to above ADO in whch case it becomes the >default). After that you can go on using DAO same as ever. > >Andy Lacey >http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren DICK >>Sent: 12 April 2003 16:00 >>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: OpenRecordset doesn't >> >> >>Thanks to all who replied. >> >>I went to the (not) Help and am now using some >>plagiarised code directly for ADO >>It seems to work >> >>Thanks Susan and Andy >> >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Susan Harkins" >>To: >>Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 12:51 AM >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: OpenRecordset doesn't >> >> >> >> >>>Well, you don't need the ; at the end of the SQL >>> >>> >>statement, but don't know >> >> >>>that it's your problem. >>> >>>Susan H. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Can anyone shed some light on why my code >>>> >>>> >>fails on >> >> >>>>the line... >>>> Set rst = dbs.OpenRecordset("SELECT * FROM >>>>tblMyTable;", dbOpenDynaset) >>>>and I get the error "Run time error 13 'Type >>>>Mismatch" >>>> >>>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>AccessD mailing list >>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> >>> >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/acces >>sd >> >> >>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>AccessD mailing list >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd >>Website: >>http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Apr 12 13:52:36 2003 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD)) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 11:52:36 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] A2K: OpenRecordset doesn't In-Reply-To: <000801c30100$70a8bc00$17669a89@DDICK> Message-ID: Hi Darren: >"Run time error 13 'Type Mismatch" It is stating that one the variables in this equation is not set to 'right object type'. It is most likely the 'rst' variable that is not defined as an ADO recordset object (Dim rst as ADODB.Recordset), or that the Reference to the ActiveX ADO library was not setup yet. HTH Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren DICK Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 7:33 AM To: AccessD List Subject: [AccessD] A2K: OpenRecordset doesn't Hello all Can anyone shed some light on why my code fails on the line... Set rst = dbs.OpenRecordset("SELECT * FROM tblMyTable;", dbOpenDynaset) and I get the error "Run time error 13 'Type Mismatch" Many thanks Darren ________________________________ Public Sub MySub() Dim dbs As Database Dim rst As Recordset Set dbs = CurrentDb ' Set rst = dbs.OpenRecordset("SELECT * FROM tblMyTable;", dbOpenDynaset) ' With rst .MoveLast Debug.Print .RecordCount .Close End With Set dbs = Nothing End Sub ________________________________ _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From harkins at iglou.com Sat Apr 12 14:05:16 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 15:05:16 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] MSDE 1.0 Message-ID: <005b01c30126$e0e70f50$d7e6ffcc@SusanOne> Anyone know if you can run MSDE 1.0 on Windows XP? I can't really see any reason why you couldn't but thought I'd check. I can't find any references that suggest you can't. Susan H. From Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Sat Apr 12 14:14:26 2003 From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK (Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 20:14:26 +0100 (BST) Subject: [AccessD] MSDE 1.0 In-Reply-To: <005b01c30126$e0e70f50$d7e6ffcc@SusanOne> References: <005b01c30126$e0e70f50$d7e6ffcc@SusanOne> Message-ID: <1050174866.3e986592d8c86@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Yes Martin Quoting Susan Harkins : > Anyone know if you can run MSDE 1.0 on Windows XP? I can't really see > any > reason why you couldn't but thought I'd check. I can't find any > references > that suggest you can't. > > Susan H. > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com Sat Apr 12 19:06:10 2003 From: jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 20:06:10 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] TransferSpreadsheet error message Message-ID: I am trying to trap the error for docmd.TransferSpreadsheet. If I do SetWarnings false, then Err is never set, even in cases where some or all records fail to import. If I do SetWarnings True, then the typical ugly JET error is displayed when the docmd is executed, and then the err is set and can be interpreted for a more user friendly message, but the ugly message can't be disabled. Does anyone know how to use transferspreadsheet, disable the ugly error message, yet get the err object to set so that I can put up a user friendly message? John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------- Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com From michael.mattys at adelphia.net Sat Apr 12 19:49:07 2003 From: michael.mattys at adelphia.net (Michael R Mattys) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 20:49:07 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] TransferSpreadsheet error message References: Message-ID: <01a901c30156$7e214270$6401a8c0@default> Hi John, This confirms the problem Cannot Trap Import Errors ... http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/Q197/5/96.ASP Michael R. Mattys www.mattysconsulting.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "John W. Colby" To: "AccessD" Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 8:06 PM Subject: [AccessD] TransferSpreadsheet error message > I am trying to trap the error for docmd.TransferSpreadsheet. If I do > SetWarnings false, then Err is never set, even in cases where some or all > records fail to import. If I do SetWarnings True, then the typical ugly JET > error is displayed when the docmd is executed, and then the err is set and > can be interpreted for a more user friendly message, but the ugly message > can't be disabled. > > Does anyone know how to use transferspreadsheet, disable the ugly error > message, yet get the err object to set so that I can put up a user friendly > message? > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. > Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From michael.mattys at adelphia.net Sat Apr 12 20:04:40 2003 From: michael.mattys at adelphia.net (Michael R Mattys) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 21:04:40 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] TransferSpreadsheet error message References: <01a901c30156$7e214270$6401a8c0@default> Message-ID: <01af01c30158$ae91dad0$6401a8c0@default> OK, that wasn't helpful Maybe you could do something with this How to Create a Jet CHECK Constraint http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/Q201/8/88.ASP Michael R. Mattys www.mattysconsulting.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael R Mattys" To: Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] TransferSpreadsheet error message > Hi John, > > This confirms the problem > Cannot Trap Import Errors ... > http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/Q197/5/96.ASP > > Michael R. Mattys > www.mattysconsulting.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John W. Colby" > To: "AccessD" > Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 8:06 PM > Subject: [AccessD] TransferSpreadsheet error message > > > > I am trying to trap the error for docmd.TransferSpreadsheet. If I do > > SetWarnings false, then Err is never set, even in cases where some or all > > records fail to import. If I do SetWarnings True, then the typical ugly > JET > > error is displayed when the docmd is executed, and then the err is set and > > can be interpreted for a more user friendly message, but the ugly message > > can't be disabled. > > > > Does anyone know how to use transferspreadsheet, disable the ugly error > > message, yet get the err object to set so that I can put up a user > friendly > > message? > > > > John W. Colby > > Colby Consulting > > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. > > Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From DWUTKA at marlow.com Sat Apr 12 22:51:46 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 22:51:46 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Replace Special Characters Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82674@main2.marlow.com> We all have those sorts of days! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 3:12 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Replace Special Characters Yea you're probably right. Didn't give that one enough thought. Concentrate Andy, concentrate! Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka > Sent: 10 April 2003 21:12 > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Replace Special Characters > > > Ack, you mean run a replace on all non-alphanumeric > characters? Wouldn't that be a bit excessive? > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk] > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 2:50 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Replace Special Characters > > > Terri > Check out the Replace function (not in A97 though) > > Andy Lacey > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Terri Jarus > > Sent: 10 April 2003 20:39 > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: [AccessD] Replace Special Characters > > > > > > I want to be able to go through a column of data and strip out any > > special characters (,./"'-*&!, etc.) and store the "clean" > data to a > > new column. > > > > "ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1234567890" > > > > How would I go about doing this? > > > > Thanks for any help. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd > > Website: > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd > Website: > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd > Website: > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Sat Apr 12 22:52:27 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 22:52:27 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Replace Special Characters Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82675@main2.marlow.com> Glad to help, and glad it worked....especially since I wrote it in Outlook, not VB or Access, to check to see if it worked! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Terri Jarus [mailto:jarus at amerinet-gpo.com] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 3:19 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Replace Special Characters You are the bomb! That's exactly what I needed and it works like a champ! Thank you very much and thanks to all who responded. >>> DWUTKA at marlow.com 04/10/03 03:07PM >>> Function ReturnJustAlphaNumeric(strOriginal as String) as string Dim strTemp as string Dim i as long strTemp="" For i=1 to Len(strOriginal) if IsNumeric(mid(strOriginal,i,1)) Or _ (Asc(mid(UCase(strOriginal),i,1))>=65 And _ Asc(mid(UCase(strOriginal),i,1))<=90) Then strTemp=strTemp & mid(strOriginal,i,1) End If Next i ReturnJustAlphaNumeric=strTemp End Function There ya go.... (Test it, I'm running on very little sleep, so I may have a typo in there.) Drew -----Original Message----- From: Terri Jarus [mailto:jarus at amerinet-gpo.com] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 2:39 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Replace Special Characters I want to be able to go through a column of data and strip out any special characters (,./"'-*&!, etc.) and store the "clean" data to a new column. "ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1234567890" How would I go about doing this? Thanks for any help. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Sat Apr 12 22:53:20 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 22:53:20 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money w as involved.... Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82676@main2.marlow.com> I look nothing like Saddam! More like Drew Carey.....probably a little heavier...at least in that picture...I think I've lost about 15 lbs. in the last few days moving everything out of that mess! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 3:12 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money was involved.... Drew, That picture is the REAL you. Any other picture you send is of an imposter. I hear there are several guys that used to be doubles for Saddam that are now looking for jobs. Maybe one of them can be your double. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Thursday 2003 Apr 10 15:02 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money was involved.... Ack, I'll need to send in a better picture then that. I got caught sticking my gut out, on the cell, with a cig. Sheesh...not to mention I look like a hippy with my hair all long like that (just cut it this morning.....feel MUCH better...). Drew -----Original Message----- From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 1:35 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money was involved.... ...all right!!!! ...now we have a photo of the infamous Drew Wutka saved for posterity in dba's "gallery of rogues" ...whenever we get around to making that available :)))) William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Drew Wutka" To: Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 1:33 PM Subject: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money was involved.... > http://www.dallasnews.com/localnews/city/collin/stories/041003dnccomckin neyf > ire.6905a.html > > The link above is the Dallas Morning News article about my apartment > fire. I'm actually pictured in the article....so my picture was in the > paper this > morning....of course I'm smoking a cigarette (which didn't make my Mom > happy! ), and on the cell phone, but hey, I'm in the paper. > > Susan, does that mean that I've been published before the WhoIs > article went > out? > > That link will ask you to sign in, it's free, just the paper's way of > accounting to their advertisers I guess. > > Drew > > (P.S.- Thanks to everyone that has posted to the list, and sent > emails to my personal account with support. It's much appreciated. > The 'like family' > approach to the List is one of it's most endearing values! Better stop > now, so I don't get hollered at for long OT posts! ) _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Sat Apr 12 22:54:31 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 22:54:31 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money w as involved.... Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82677@main2.marlow.com> Of course I wasn't sleeping, don't you know, I never sleep. I was actually at work when it started, but I was on my way out, so I got home about 20 minutes after it started. Most people were sleeping so they got to stand outside of their homes in 45 degree weather in pajamas, and mostly barefoot! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Ron Moore [mailto:rmoore at comtechpst.com] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 3:23 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money was involved.... Drew, I don't know if the reporter intended it or not but it seems a little ironic with a pick of you smoking' a cig in an article about a house fire! Were you sleeping when it happened? :-) Ron -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 4:02 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money was involved.... Ack, I'll need to send in a better picture then that. I got caught sticking my gut out, on the cell, with a cig. Sheesh...not to mention I look like a hippy with my hair all long like that (just cut it this morning.....feel MUCH better...). Drew -----Original Message----- From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 1:35 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money was involved.... ...all right!!!! ...now we have a photo of the infamous Drew Wutka saved for posterity in dba's "gallery of rogues" ...whenever we get around to making that available :)))) William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Drew Wutka" To: Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 1:33 PM Subject: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money was involved.... > http://www.dallasnews.com/localnews/city/collin/stories/041003dnccomckinneyf > ire.6905a.html > > The link above is the Dallas Morning News article about my apartment fire. > I'm actually pictured in the article....so my picture was in the paper this > morning....of course I'm smoking a cigarette (which didn't make my Mom > happy! ), and on the cell phone, but hey, I'm in the paper. > > Susan, does that mean that I've been published before the WhoIs article went > out? > > That link will ask you to sign in, it's free, just the paper's way of > accounting to their advertisers I guess. > > Drew > > (P.S.- Thanks to everyone that has posted to the list, and sent emails to > my personal account with support. It's much appreciated. The 'like family' > approach to the List is one of it's most endearing values! Better stop > now, so I don't get hollered at for long OT posts! ) > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Sat Apr 12 22:55:03 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 22:55:03 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Strange happenings in Memo fields Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82678@main2.marlow.com> Sounds like a Unicode issue. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Barrows [mailto:Jeff at outbaktech.com] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 3:14 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Strange happenings in Memo fields Has anyone had text entered into a memo field suddenly change? My client claims that there is no pattern to it, but some of the text in his memo field seems to turn into 'Chinese type characters'. They are using Access 2002 with a SQL backend. Jeff Barrows Outbak Technologies, LLC Racine, WI Phone: (262) 634-0653 Mailto: jeff at outbaktech.com www.outbaktech.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From DWUTKA at marlow.com Sat Apr 12 22:56:40 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 22:56:40 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money w as involved.... Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82679@main2.marlow.com> Actually, it really isn't me. If it were the 'real' Drew, I would be sitting in front of three monitors coding or developing a database. They caught me in the 2% of my life that I am not doing just that! Drew -----Original Message----- From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 5:44 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money was involved.... ...nah ...the photo has you dead to rights ...the real Drew in action ...a hippie you don't look like :))))) William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Drew Wutka" To: Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 4:01 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money was involved.... > Ack, I'll need to send in a better picture then that. I got caught sticking > my gut out, on the cell, with a cig. Sheesh...not to mention I look like a > hippy with my hair all long like that (just cut it this morning.....feel > MUCH better...). > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 1:35 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money > was involved.... > > > ...all right!!!! ...now we have a photo of the infamous Drew Wutka saved for > posterity in dba's "gallery of rogues" ...whenever we get around to making > that available :)))) > > William Hindman > "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund > Burke > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Drew Wutka" > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 1:33 PM > Subject: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money was > involved.... > > > > > http://www.dallasnews.com/localnews/city/collin/stories/041003dnccomckinneyf > > ire.6905a.html > > > > The link above is the Dallas Morning News article about my apartment fire. > > I'm actually pictured in the article....so my picture was in the paper > this > > morning....of course I'm smoking a cigarette (which didn't make my Mom > > happy! ), and on the cell phone, but hey, I'm in the paper. > > > > Susan, does that mean that I've been published before the WhoIs article > went > > out? > > > > That link will ask you to sign in, it's free, just the paper's way of > > accounting to their advertisers I guess. > > > > Drew > > > > (P.S.- Thanks to everyone that has posted to the list, and sent emails to > > my personal account with support. It's much appreciated. The 'like > family' > > approach to the List is one of it's most endearing values! Better stop > > now, so I don't get hollered at for long OT posts! ) > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Sat Apr 12 22:58:20 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 22:58:20 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money w as involved.... Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D8267A@main2.marlow.com> Very true....I'd rather be known for my articles then a smoky and extremely wet apartment! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 7:03 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money was involved.... > > Susan, does that mean that I've been published before the WhoIs article went > out? ===========No. ;) Did theyask you to sign a contract? Did they pay you? Then No. ;) Susan H. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Sat Apr 12 23:01:34 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 23:01:34 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money was involved... . Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D8267B@main2.marlow.com> actually the golf place fell through. Not paying for water there meant that you had to abide by pretty severe water restrictions, including not using water (shower, laundry, etc.) after 9 pm. Not good when I usually don't get home until midnight or 1 in the morning. I'm glad everything worked out for you, and by the way, congrats on your wedding...(sorta steered clear of that thread since it was going on for a while! ) Drew -----Original Message----- From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 3:14 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money was involved... . No hollering from me, O famous one! When we were evacuated recently because a building 15 feet away from ours collapsed, all I pulled out was the cats. Luckily we were only out for 24 hours. I'm just glad that you've found somewhere nice to go - you certainly deserve a silver lining. Roz -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: 10 April 2003 18:34 To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: [AccessD] OT: Yippie, I'm famous.....now if only some money was involved... . http://www.dallasnews.com/localnews/city/collin/stories/041003dnccomckinneyf ire.6905a.html The link above is the Dallas Morning News article about my apartment fire. I'm actually pictured in the article....so my picture was in the paper this morning....of course I'm smoking a cigarette (which didn't make my Mom happy! ), and on the cell phone, but hey, I'm in the paper. Susan, does that mean that I've been published before the WhoIs article went out? That link will ask you to sign in, it's free, just the paper's way of accounting to their advertisers I guess. Drew (P.S.- Thanks to everyone that has posted to the list, and sent emails to my personal account with support. It's much appreciated. The 'like family' approach to the List is one of it's most endearing values! Better stop now, so I don't get hollered at for long OT posts! ) _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Sat Apr 12 23:04:42 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 23:04:42 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] RE: New web site Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D8267C@main2.marlow.com> Just wanted to say that I saw the new site, and it look superb. GOOD WORK! (To everyone involved!) 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Lembit Lembit Soobik ----- Original Message ----- From: Tracy To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 10:04 AM Subject: [AccessD] Alter Table Hi Listers I'm trying to alter a Access table via code, I've tried the following: dbs.Execute "ALTER TABLE [JobsOutwork] ADD COLUMN LP_Description Text (250);" I'm trying to alter the field: LP_Description from being a text field of 100 characters to a text field of 250 characters, using the above line - generates the error message that the field already exists. Is there any programatic way to alter an existing table/field ? Any help appreciated. Cheers Tracy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Sun Apr 13 09:01:43 2003 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 15:01:43 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Alter Table In-Reply-To: <072201c301a4$1d225740$0300a8c0@S856> Message-ID: <000a01c301c5$37365ac0$b274d0d5@andypc> Just to add to what Lembit's said, Tracy, we found (on the BEU project) that altering the length of a text field was, frustratingly, a real problem, to the extent that we opted out of doing it. It can't be done programmatically 9unless someone can tell me I'm wrong) which leaves creating a new field, copying the data, deleting the old field and renaming the new one back again. This is all very well except that if the field is involved in indexes and/or relationships they have to be recreated too. All very messy. Of course we had the option to just omit the facility, which doesn't help you much if you have to do it. If you do manage it, and crack all of those complexities, we'd be very interested to know how. Sorry to be not much help. Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik Sent: 13 April 2003 10:57 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Alter Table Tracy, AFAIR you cannot modify a field. you need to create a new field and copy the data to the new field. code, how to do this can be found in our famous BEU project. go to our webside download page and download the BEU. Lembit Lembit Soobik ----- Original Message ----- From: Tracy To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 10:04 AM Subject: [AccessD] Alter Table Hi Listers I'm trying to alter a Access table via code, I've tried the following: dbs.Execute "ALTER TABLE [JobsOutwork] ADD COLUMN LP_Description Text (250);" I'm trying to alter the field: LP_Description from being a text field of 100 characters to a text field of 250 characters, using the above line - generates the error message that the field already exists. Is there any programatic way to alter an existing table/field ? Any help appreciated. Cheers Tracy _____ _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From scotttgage at yahoo.com Sun Apr 13 09:29:20 2003 From: scotttgage at yahoo.com (Scott Gage) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 07:29:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [AccessD] Legal stuff In-Reply-To: <003d01c2f315$d4fa6e40$f9c581d5@pedro> Message-ID: <20030413142920.77503.qmail@web10406.mail.yahoo.com> Legal stuff Okay, I've built a nifty little solution in Access and I want to sell it. Can I license it and if so what is the correct way to indicate in my License Agreement that MSAccess is needed to run the app. What is my real ownership with this idea? Do I own anything without writing it in VB or another language? I feel very unprotected. I just don't want to step on Bill's toes. He has a lot more money then I do. ===== -------------------- Scott T. Gage Scott.gage at promedica.org 419.291-7177 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Sun Apr 13 10:08:45 2003 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 16:08:45 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Alter Table In-Reply-To: <00d501c301c7$91a93110$fce6ffcc@SusanOne> Message-ID: <001901c301ce$94338140$b274d0d5@andypc> Adding or deleting a column yes. But I get syntax error from "ALTER COLUMN" and Help doesn't recognise it either. Oh wait. It's an A97 problem. Works in A2K but not A97, which is pretty much all I use, so that's my excuse for my ignorance. Well, Tracy, hopefully Susan's solved it for you. As for BEU, mmmmm........... Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: 13 April 2003 15:18 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Alter Table Well, you'd need ALTER COLUMN: dbs.Execute "ALTER TABLE JobsOutwork ALTER COLUMN LP_Description Text (250);" Although, I can't guarantee it'll work with .Execute -- Susan H. Tracy, AFAIR you cannot modify a field. you need to create a new field and copy the data to the new field. code, how to do this can be found in our famous BEU project. go to our webside download page and download the BEU. Lembit Lembit Soobik ----- Original Message ----- From: Tracy To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 10:04 AM Subject: [AccessD] Alter Table Hi Listers I'm trying to alter a Access table via code, I've tried the following: dbs.Execute "ALTER TABLE [JobsOutwork] ADD COLUMN LP_Description Text (250);" I'm trying to alter the field: LP_Description from being a text field of 100 characters to a text field of 250 characters, using the above line - generates the error message that the field already exists. Is there any programatic way to alter an existing table/field ? Any help appreciated. Cheers Tracy _____ _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _____ _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From harkins at iglou.com Sun Apr 13 10:18:24 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 11:18:24 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Alter Table References: <001901c301ce$94338140$b274d0d5@andypc> Message-ID: <000201c301d0$d9530d70$294afccc@SusanOne> Message Oh wait. It's an A97 problem. Works in A2K but not A97, which is pretty much all I use, so that's my excuse for my ignorance. Well, Tracy, hopefully Susan's solved it for you. As for BEU, mmmmm........... ============It should work in 97 too, you may just need a different VBA route -- try it via the SQL window. Susan H. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Sun Apr 13 10:42:15 2003 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 16:42:15 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Alter Table In-Reply-To: <000201c301d0$d9530d70$294afccc@SusanOne> Message-ID: <000f01c301d3$42a458e0$b274d0d5@andypc> No, still get a syntax error. And I don't think pass-through queries are an option when you're updating a linked MDB, are they? Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: 13 April 2003 16:18 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Alter Table Oh wait. It's an A97 problem. Works in A2K but not A97, which is pretty much all I use, so that's my excuse for my ignorance. Well, Tracy, hopefully Susan's solved it for you. As for BEU, mmmmm........... ============It should work in 97 too, you may just need a different VBA route -- try it via the SQL window. Susan H. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From harkins at iglou.com Sun Apr 13 11:35:23 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 12:35:23 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Alter Table References: <000f01c301d3$42a458e0$b274d0d5@andypc> Message-ID: <002e01c301db$90866be0$294afccc@SusanOne> MessageAndy, I really don't know what it doesn't work in 97 -- it's straight basic SQL and it isn't an extension, but I guess it's possible that ALTER COLUMN is new to the more recent version of SQL. Susan H. No, still get a syntax error. And I don't think pass-through queries are an option when you're updating a linked MDB, are they? Oh wait. It's an A97 problem. Works in A2K but not A97, which is pretty much all I use, so that's my excuse for my ignorance. Well, Tracy, hopefully Susan's solved it for you. As for BEU, mmmmm........... ============It should work in 97 too, you may just need a different VBA route -- try it via the SQL window. Susan H. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From artful at rogers.com Sun Apr 13 12:01:58 2003 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 13:01:58 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Legal stuff In-Reply-To: <20030413142920.77503.qmail@web10406.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <01a101c301de$64ef55c0$8e01a8c0@Rock> If you have the Developer edition you can create ship your app with an Access run-time, and then your customers won't need a copy of Access. However, lots of people on this list seem to think the best way to create an installation program is using the Wise/Sage stuff, which will run you another grand I think. (I don't have it so can't attest to its virtues.) I have not had problems creating installations with the standard Developer stuff. In fact I just recently created one that has to copy a .bak file from the CD and then run some code I wrote using SQL-DMO that performs a restore onto an MSDE database. Everything works like a charm. The user can decide where she wants the ADE file, where she wants the physical MSDE data file and where she wants the MSDE database itself. We've been testing it for a couple of weeks on various machines and it works flawlessly. Your mileage may vary, depending on such things as your reliance on Office automation, DLLs and so on. If it's possible in your app, I would suggest adding code that will prevent the app from running after X days. Then you can offer a free evaluation download, and the folks who like it enough will buy it. Arthur -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Scott Gage Sent: April 13, 2003 10:29 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Legal stuff Legal stuff Okay, I've built a nifty little solution in Access and I want to sell it. Can I license it and if so what is the correct way to indicate in my License Agreement that MSAccess is needed to run the app. What is my real ownership with this idea? Do I own anything without writing it in VB or another language? I feel very unprotected. I just don't want to step on Bill's toes. He has a lot more money then I do. ===== -------------------- Scott T. Gage Scott.gage at promedica.org 419.291-7177 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Sun Apr 13 12:04:41 2003 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 18:04:41 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Alter Table In-Reply-To: <002e01c301db$90866be0$294afccc@SusanOne> Message-ID: <000a01c301de$c649d200$b274d0d5@andypc> Probably. ALTER TABLE's ok, it's the ALTER COLUMN bit that isn't. Still, hopefully you've helped Tracy who put the original question. Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: 13 April 2003 17:35 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Alter Table Andy, I really don't know what it doesn't work in 97 -- it's straight basic SQL and it isn't an extension, but I guess it's possible that ALTER COLUMN is new to the more recent version of SQL. Susan H. No, still get a syntax error. And I don't think pass-through queries are an option when you're updating a linked MDB, are they? Oh wait. It's an A97 problem. Works in A2K but not A97, which is pretty much all I use, so that's my excuse for my ignorance. Well, Tracy, hopefully Susan's solved it for you. As for BEU, mmmmm........... ============It should work in 97 too, you may just need a different VBA route -- try it via the SQL window. Susan H. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Sun Apr 13 13:42:24 2003 From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK (Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 19:42:24 +0100 (BST) Subject: [AccessD] OT SQL Server In-Reply-To: <000a01c301de$c649d200$b274d0d5@andypc> References: <000a01c301de$c649d200$b274d0d5@andypc> Message-ID: <1050259344.3e99af9094ae0@hosea.qub.ac.uk> http://shop.osborne.com/cgi-bin/osborne/0072227885.html Good free intro chapter on SQL Server security. Not a sales pitch even if I know the book author just think some list members may find the security chapter useful. Martin From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Sun Apr 13 18:10:05 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 19:10:05 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] RE: New web site References: Message-ID: <004c01c30211$d1c31af0$6101a8c0@amd2k512> Print to PDF through codeGroup ...just wanted to add my own personal ...and dba ...view on Kathryn's (Kati to me) contributions to the origination and maintenance of AccessD's (now dba) website ...over a period exceeding the past two years while many web site gurus and volunteers came and went from the ranks of those who were willing to donate their time and skills to building and maintaining the dba website, Kati was the one constant in the equation ...she began knowing nothing whatsoever about html, but with a willingness and determination that both outlasted and in many, many instances outshone that of many among us with far more skills and experience ...the very existence of the dba website owes itself, in my not so humble opinion ...and certain knowledge ...to Kati's unfailing dedication to doing whatever it took no matter the circumstances or criticism that came her way ...regardless of the many and inevitable differences of opinion we had over that time, Kati was the one who was always there when the chips were down. ...this is not intended as a paean but I couldn't let the transfer of the dba site maintenance duties and responsibilities to pass quietly by without adding my view of the contributions of one who was there at its conception and stayed with it through some very hard times ...Kati deserves that and much more. ...and congratulations Jim, the new site design is a big step toward the highly professional website we had in mind when dba started down this road so long ago ...bet you had no idea of the barrel of monkeys you were jumping into when you first volunteered :))) William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 3:21 PM Subject: [AccessD] RE: New web site Hi all: The DataBase Advisors is moving to a new web site format. Kathryn Bassett is stepping aside as the original site Web Master and the gap is being filled by myself, Jim Lawrence. I would like to personally thank her for her years of hard work and dedication and I am sure she will continue to provide advisory and specific project support. A group of other list members will also be assisting in providing project and site support. Their names will be listed on the new site. The new site will be in place as of this weekend. If you have any questions or comments please address them to this list. 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We scrapped our matress and box spring (which we are going to get a new one from the Red Cross), (my daughters was covered in plastic, so it survived okay) and we scrapped our couch (only paid $50 for it, and my cat did more damage then the fire! However, a nice lady from our church gave us a really nice couch, practically new. All of the electronics I have tested so far work fine, so that's a good sign, but my cordless drill and several Versapacks ($10 to $20 a piece) were scrap from sitting in water for days. A few 'fragile' items were broken from the firefighters going through our place, and a lot of photos and paperwork were damaged from water. We didn't go with the golf course place, but our new place is quite nice. The REALLY good news is there is a repeater right in our complex so I can get any DSL package I want! (My place at the beginning of the year was within 3 miles so I had 786k down and 384k up, then we moved, and we were just outside of the 3 miles, and that limited me to 128k up (something like 384 down...). I am now going to have 768k to 1.5meg down, with 256k up. (SBC's faster upload packages get really expensive.). But 256k up should be a big help with the archives! That's about it. Hope everyone is having a good weekend. Drew From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Apr 14 00:38:22 2003 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD)) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 22:38:22 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] RE: New web site In-Reply-To: <004c01c30211$d1c31af0$6101a8c0@amd2k512> Message-ID: Print to PDF through codeI agree full heartedly. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of William Hindman Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 4:10 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] RE: New web site Group ...just wanted to add my own personal ...and dba ...view on Kathryn's (Kati to me) contributions to the origination and maintenance of AccessD's (now dba) website ...over a period exceeding the past two years while many web site gurus and volunteers came and went from the ranks of those who were willing to donate their time and skills to building and maintaining the dba website, Kati was the one constant in the equation ...she began knowing nothing whatsoever about html, but with a willingness and determination that both outlasted and in many, many instances outshone that of many among us with far more skills and experience ...the very existence of the dba website owes itself, in my not so humble opinion ...and certain knowledge ...to Kati's unfailing dedication to doing whatever it took no matter the circumstances or criticism that came her way ...regardless of the many and inevitable differences of opinion we had over that time, Kati was the one who was always there when the chips were down. ...this is not intended as a paean but I couldn't let the transfer of the dba site maintenance duties and responsibilities to pass quietly by without adding my view of the contributions of one who was there at its conception and stayed with it through some very hard times ...Kati deserves that and much more. ...and congratulations Jim, the new site design is a big step toward the highly professional website we had in mind when dba started down this road so long ago ...bet you had no idea of the barrel of monkeys you were jumping into when you first volunteered :))) William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 3:21 PM Subject: [AccessD] RE: New web site Hi all: The DataBase Advisors is moving to a new web site format. Kathryn Bassett is stepping aside as the original site Web Master and the gap is being filled by myself, Jim Lawrence. I would like to personally thank her for her years of hard work and dedication and I am sure she will continue to provide advisory and specific project support. A group of other list members will also be assisting in providing project and site support. Their names will be listed on the new site. The new site will be in place as of this weekend. If you have any questions or comments please address them to this list. 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URL: From paul.hartland at fsmail.net Mon Apr 14 04:43:12 2003 From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 9:43:12 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] Sorting A Text Field Message-ID: <20030414094312.VHLT4720.fep07-svc.ttys.com@localhost> To all, I don't know if this can be done, but I have a text field in a table which contains data similar to the following : 7 3 9 2 5 M5 B2 M1 So the data is a mixture of numbers and characters, is there anyway to sort the data so that the above would appear as below : 2 3 5 7 9 B2 M1 M5 Any help on this would be greatly appreciated, as it is fairly urgent..... Thanks in advance. Paul Hartland __________________________________________________________________________ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application. From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Mon Apr 14 05:55:56 2003 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 20:55:56 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Sorting A Text Field In-Reply-To: <20030414094312.VHLT4720.fep07-svc.ttys.com@localhost> Message-ID: <3E9B205C.12044.2C52CB5@localhost> That's straight ASCII order, a simple Ascending sort on the text field should do it. What's the problem. On 14 Apr 2003 at 9:43, paul.hartland at fsmail.net wrote: > To all, > > I don't know if this can be done, but I have a text field in a table > which contains data similar to the following : > > 7 > 3 > 9 > 2 > 5 > M5 > B2 > M1 > > So the data is a mixture of numbers and characters, is there anyway to > sort the data so that the above would appear as below : > > 2 > 3 > 5 > 7 > 9 > B2 > M1 > M5 > > Any help on this would be greatly appreciated, as it is fairly > urgent..... > > Thanks in advance. > > Paul Hartland > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ____ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ > > Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for > Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application. > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Mon Apr 14 05:59:11 2003 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 20:59:11 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] TOP 10 report graph In-Reply-To: <004401c30264$e1df9fa0$4bc2f63f@Desktop> Message-ID: <3E9B211F.3307.2C825AF@localhost> Show totals and use GROUP BY. If other fields are different then use FIRST, MIN, MAX or whatever on the other fields On 14 Apr 2003 at 5:04, John Eget wrote: > Anyone > I have a query that generated a table for reference on a report to > display the top ten events recorded. i.e. SELECT TOP 10 [table] > [item]. The only problem is when the 10th item displayed is the same > as the 11th or 12th or 13th etc. Then all of the items that agree with > the 10th item are also displayed. Is there a way to ONLY display the > TOP 10 and not anything else? Thanks for the help in advance John -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. From paul.hartland at fsmail.net Mon Apr 14 06:04:20 2003 From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (Auto-reply from paul.hartland@fsmail.net) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 13:04:20 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Sorting A Text Field In-Reply-To: <3E9B205C.12044.2C52CB5@localhost> Message-ID: <20030414110420.MDVO8872.fep05-svc.ttys.com@fep05-svc> Paul Hartland has receieved the email, if it is urgent you may contact him on 01922 472031 or Mobile 07951 993933 From jarus at amerinet-gpo.com Mon Apr 14 06:57:09 2003 From: jarus at amerinet-gpo.com (Terri Jarus) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 06:57:09 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] A97 - One to Many Report Message-ID: I have records with one Contract Number and then several attributes that I want to appear as "checked" check boxes on a report. I have three tables: ContractInfo, Diversity Programs, SubPrograms. ContractInfo is the main table containing ContractNumber. There can be many diversity programs applicable to one ContractNumber and then many SubPrograms applicable to each Diversity Program. For each ContractNumber, I want one report that shows TRUE for all applicable Diversity Program checkboxes and then any applicable subprogram checkboxes. My code for this looks like: Private Sub Detail_Print(Cancel As Integer, PrintCount As Integer) Select Case DiversityProgID Case 1 Choice = True Case 3 HUB = True Case 4 SpecLatex = True Case 5 Environ = True Case 6 Equip = True End Select Select Case SubProgID Case 1 ChoiceMS = True Case 2 ChoicePH = True Case 3 Tier1 = True Case 4 Tier2 = True Case 5 ckLatex = True Case 6 ckFree = True Case 7 ckNA = True Case 8 ckUnk = True Case 9 ckEnergy = True Case 10 ckMerc = True Case 11 ckWaste = True End Select End Sub The code works except I get more than one record if there is more than one DiversityProgID I'm not sure how to approach this. I hope my explanation makes sense. Thanks for any suggestions. From ranthony at wrsystems.com Mon Apr 14 07:08:58 2003 From: ranthony at wrsystems.com (Randall Anthony) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 08:08:58 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Message-ID: <5F21A4E8B8DD734992EF9E70AC9D3064128534@mail2.wrsystems.com> Thanks everybody for your input, I've decided to pass on that program for now, I'm going to be in hot pursuit of the new MSD cert or similar first, get my tech affairs in order. I think I'll shoot for the MM in the next couple of years. Thanks again!! -----Original Message----- From: Hale, Jim [mailto:jim.hale at fleetpride.com] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 6:59 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs You have a point. If the technology guy really is good he should never get caught. Jim H -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 5:24 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs On the other hand, which is more likely to wind up in jail, the manager or the technical guy? Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Hale, Jim [mailto:jim.hale at fleetpride.com] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 2:14 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Exactly! Think of your competitive advantage compared to other managers if you actually understand the technical aspect of what you are managing. They don't, you do, you win. The other part of the equation IMHO is that purely technical guys salary levels generally cap out below 6 figures. Good managers have significant growth potential in both $$ and in terms of career growth. Of course it is like anything else in life-- you have to enjoy it if you expect to excel. Few are more miserable than a "manager" who has risen to his "Peter principle" level. Jim H [Hale, Jim] -----Original Message----- From: Randall Anthony [mailto:ranthony at wrsystems.com] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 2:56 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Thanks for that tidbit, Charles. I guess I'm just looking to be identified as a senior technical guy, but not a manager. I already work for management types who create my project schedules that couldn't create a form with one table using the Access wizard! -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 3:30 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Randy, Now that you state your intention is to work toward senior management, I can state that an MBA is almost a prerequisite these days to reach that goal. Also, experience int the operations side of an organization always helps. With your 10+ years on the technical side with an MIS, you should consider the information intensive industries as your target organizations since that gives you 10 years experience in the operational side already. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Randall Anthony [mailto:ranthony at wrsystems.com] Sent: Friday 2003 Apr 11 14:18 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Importance: Low Thanks Jim, I've been mulling over this for quite a bit now. That's exactly what my intent was, but it seems everyone I've spoken/wrote to in the tech side is saying ROI is nil. The minute someone sees MBA or MM it's "oh, this guys on the management track, we want somebody technical". With my MIS degree, I pretty much do the translator/referee thing quite a bit. Right now it's running about 8 to 1, "get some certs and experience in those cert skills, you don't need more education". Thanks again for your advice. -----Original Message----- From: Hale, Jim [mailto:jim.hale at fleetpride.com] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 2:57 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs I certainly agree with Charles "if you want to stay on the technical side of the business." However, if you aspire to management and eventually senior management positions the combination of business knowledge and technical expertise is relatively rare and therefore can give you a decided edge (not to mention more $$). An MBA, or any degree for that matter, does not by itself grant business smarts but can certainly point you in the right direction. For example, the ability to bridge the gap as "translator" and "referee" between IT and accounting staffs by possessing in depth technical and business knowledge of both camps can make you close to indispensable in some companies ;-). (Indispensable also=$$). BTW, Translator/referee/system designer/curmudgeon is essentially my current job description although I arrived here bassackwards from your proposed path. (I earned my MBA/CPA first and became CFO of a NY stock exchange company before switching to the database/financial reporting side because it is definitely more fun). Good luck! Jim Hale -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [ mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us ] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 12:12 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Randy, As an old professor my opinion is an MBA won't hurt you, but it probably will not help you if you want to stay on the technical side of the business. With 10+ years experience your resume and your good references should get you an interview with any place worth working. All your references will say you walk on water, won't they? Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Randall Anthony [ mailto:ranthony at wrsystems.com ] Sent: Friday 2003 Apr 11 12:01 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs Hi y'all. I'm looking for opinions/suggestions. I'm looking into an accelerated Master's degree from Cambridge College (I'm also looking into Univ of Phoenix online program). It's an MBA on tech steroids, so to speak. Besides proj mgt, etc., I'll learn Oracle 9i, Java, .net, OOP, XML, HTML, et al. Has any one gone through this? Better yet, any of the mgt types here have an opinion on the impact it would have on down the road? I've got 10+ years in da business, mainly doing DBA/development in Access, SQL and .ASP. Your opinions are definitely wanted. Thanks! 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Bobby -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Dettman Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 2:03 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Print to PDF through code Hey speaking of which, has anyone ever tried out this tool just posted on the MSDN Flash? Download a Trial Version of LEADTOOLS ePrint Driver Version 3 LEADTOOLS ePrint from LEAD Technology can save and print to over 140 file formats. New features in version 3 include extended support for setting up multiple printers, added support for multiple resolutions, and improved email support. For developers, version 3 includes new support to set global settings for each printer, new support for control of dialog boxes, and more. Jim Dettman President, Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc. (315) 699-3443 jimdettman at earthlink.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Steve Goodhall -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Auto-reply from paul.hartland at fsmail.net Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 7:04 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sorting A Text Field Paul Hartland has receieved the email, if it is urgent you may contact him on 01922 472031 or Mobile 07951 993933 _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mikedorism at ntelos.net Mon Apr 14 07:37:10 2003 From: mikedorism at ntelos.net (Mike and Doris Manning) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 08:37:10 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] A97 - One to Many Report In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002f01c30282$9500af80$a2350cd8@hargrove.internal> You need to set the query up so that it has a Group By clause to combine the many records into one record for that Contract Number. Your report should have a textbox for the Contract Number and then textboxes for all of the checkboxes. Set the Format option for the textboxes associated to the textboxes to True/False and you will get the result you desire. Doris Manning Database Administrator Hargrove Inc. www.hargroveinc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Terri Jarus Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 7:57 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] A97 - One to Many Report I have records with one Contract Number and then several attributes that I want to appear as "checked" check boxes on a report. I have three tables: ContractInfo, Diversity Programs, SubPrograms. ContractInfo is the main table containing ContractNumber. There can be many diversity programs applicable to one ContractNumber and then many SubPrograms applicable to each Diversity Program. For each ContractNumber, I want one report that shows TRUE for all applicable Diversity Program checkboxes and then any applicable subprogram checkboxes. My code for this looks like: Private Sub Detail_Print(Cancel As Integer, PrintCount As Integer) Select Case DiversityProgID Case 1 Choice = True Case 3 HUB = True Case 4 SpecLatex = True Case 5 Environ = True Case 6 Equip = True End Select Select Case SubProgID Case 1 ChoiceMS = True Case 2 ChoicePH = True Case 3 Tier1 = True Case 4 Tier2 = True Case 5 ckLatex = True Case 6 ckFree = True Case 7 ckNA = True Case 8 ckUnk = True Case 9 ckEnergy = True Case 10 ckMerc = True Case 11 ckWaste = True End Select End Sub The code works except I get more than one record if there is more than one DiversityProgID I'm not sure how to approach this. I hope my explanation makes sense. Thanks for any suggestions. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From paul.hartland at fsmail.net Mon Apr 14 07:51:43 2003 From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 12:51:43 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] Sorting A Text Field Message-ID: <20030414125143.VJSM4720.fep07-svc.ttys.com@localhost> The problem comes when I have the following, sorry forgot to include this 33 4 2 3 comes out as 2 3 33 4 From: "Stuart McLachlan" Date: Mon 14/Apr/2003 10:55 GMT To: , accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sorting A Text Field That's straight ASCII order, a simple Ascending sort on the text field should do it. What's the problem. On 14 Apr 2003 at 9:43, paul.hartland at fsmail.net wrote: > To all, > > I don't know if this can be done, but I have a text field in a table > which contains data similar to the following : > > 7 > 3 > 9 > 2 > 5 > M5 > B2 > M1 > > So the data is a mixture of numbers and characters, is there anyway to > sort the data so that the above would appear as below : > > 2 > 3 > 5 > 7 > 9 > B2 > M1 > M5 > > Any help on this would be greatly appreciated, as it is fairly > urgent..... > > Thanks in advance. > > Paul Hartland > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ____ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ > > Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for > Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application. > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com __________________________________________________________________________ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application. From Lembit.Soobik at t-online.de Mon Apr 14 07:58:21 2003 From: Lembit.Soobik at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 14:58:21 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Sorting A Text Field References: <20030414125143.VJSM4720.fep07-svc.ttys.com@localhost> Message-ID: <09fb01c30285$87176870$0300a8c0@S856> then the solution is to format the numbers with leading zeros Lembit Soobik ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 2:51 PM Subject: Re: Re: [AccessD] Sorting A Text Field > The problem comes when I have the following, sorry forgot to include this > > 33 > 4 > 2 > 3 > > comes out as > 2 > 3 > 33 > 4 > > From: "Stuart McLachlan" > Date: Mon 14/Apr/2003 10:55 GMT > To: , accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sorting A Text Field > > That's straight ASCII order, a simple Ascending sort on the text > field should do it. What's the problem. > > > > On 14 Apr 2003 at 9:43, paul.hartland at fsmail.net wrote: > > > To all, > > > > I don't know if this can be done, but I have a text field in a table > > which contains data similar to the following : > > > > 7 > > 3 > > 9 > > 2 > > 5 > > M5 > > B2 > > M1 > > > > So the data is a mixture of numbers and characters, is there anyway to > > sort the data so that the above would appear as below : > > > > 2 > > 3 > > 5 > > 7 > > 9 > > B2 > > M1 > > M5 > > > > Any help on this would be greatly appreciated, as it is fairly > > urgent..... > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Paul Hartland > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > ____ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ > > > > Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for > > Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > Lexacorp Ltd > http://www.lexacorp.com.pg > Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System > Support. > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ > > Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application. > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From bmorrill at attbi.com Mon Apr 14 08:14:17 2003 From: bmorrill at attbi.com (Bill Morrill) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 07:14:17 -0600 Subject: [Accessd] FE/BE on server vs FE on workstation/BE on server? Message-ID: <001701c30287$c1149d20$70d6d30c@attbi.com> 4-14-03 For sometime I have been putting frontends(forms, queries, reports etc) on workstation machines and backends(tables) on server. Links would then be made from each workstation to the server. Recently, a user mentioned that they were using the same database frontend/backend on the server. Each user would activate the frontend on the server and then the backend on the server would of course be linked to the frontend. They said this shared backend/frontend situation worked fine and that there was no need to put the frontend on each workstation. Anyone know the ramifications for this frontend/backend on server idea? Does this impact the network performance? Does this reduce the maximum number of concurrent users? Would Access have to be installed on the server to make this viable? Thanks in advance, Bill From scott.marcus at ae.ge.com Mon Apr 14 08:25:09 2003 From: scott.marcus at ae.ge.com (Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting)) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 09:25:09 -0400 Subject: [Accessd] FE/BE on server vs FE on workstation/BE on server? Message-ID: <768A0EA6FF8CB34FA522978966E5D52E559D6D@bwam02msx.ae.ge.com> Bill, There are some things that can happen. 1)A user could lock out others users if the FE is opened exclusively. 2)If a user's machine crashes during using the FE, it could lock everyone out of the database (by corruption or otherwise). This method also increases network traffic. 3)If you make temp queries and tables in the FE, you have to worry about collisions when multiple users run the same process. I think that covers most of the bad stuff. Scott -----Original Message----- From: Bill Morrill [mailto:bmorrill at attbi.com] Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 9:14 AM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [Accessd] FE/BE on server vs FE on workstation/BE on server? 4-14-03 For sometime I have been putting frontends(forms, queries, reports etc) on workstation machines and backends(tables) on server. Links would then be made from each workstation to the server. Recently, a user mentioned that they were using the same database frontend/backend on the server. Each user would activate the frontend on the server and then the backend on the server would of course be linked to the frontend. They said this shared backend/frontend situation worked fine and that there was no need to put the frontend on each workstation. Anyone know the ramifications for this frontend/backend on server idea? Does this impact the network performance? Does this reduce the maximum number of concurrent users? Would Access have to be installed on the server to make this viable? Thanks in advance, Bill _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From garykjos at hotmail.com Mon Apr 14 08:31:47 2003 From: garykjos at hotmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 08:31:47 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] TOP 10 report graph Message-ID: With only one field this won't work, but if you can put a second field in your query and sort on two fields instead of just one - and use something unique like a record key, you will only get 10 results. Gary Kjos garykjos at hotmail.com >From: "John Eget" >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >To: >Subject: [AccessD] TOP 10 report graph >Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 05:04:34 -0400 > >Anyone >I have a query that generated a table for reference on a report to display >the top ten events recorded. i.e. SELECT TOP 10 [table] [item]. The only >problem is when the 10th item displayed is the same as the 11th or 12th or >13th etc. Then all of the items that agree with the 10th item are also >displayed. Is there a way to ONLY display the TOP 10 and not anything else? >Thanks for the help in advance >John >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From scott.marcus at ae.ge.com Mon Apr 14 08:31:05 2003 From: scott.marcus at ae.ge.com (Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting)) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 09:31:05 -0400 Subject: [Accessd] FE/BE on server vs FE on workstation/BE on server? Message-ID: <768A0EA6FF8CB34FA522978966E5D52E559D6E@bwam02msx.ae.ge.com> Bill, Forgot to mention that if the network goes down, you won't have any code that runs to detect this. You'll have no control over the error message that is displayed. Access still needs to be on the users machine (if you aren't using terminal services to run this thing). Also, database bloat will probably happen at an accelerated rate. I'm sure there are other issues. These just came to mind immediately. Scott -----Original Message----- From: Bill Morrill [mailto:bmorrill at attbi.com] Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 9:14 AM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [Accessd] FE/BE on server vs FE on workstation/BE on server? 4-14-03 For sometime I have been putting frontends(forms, queries, reports etc) on workstation machines and backends(tables) on server. Links would then be made from each workstation to the server. Recently, a user mentioned that they were using the same database frontend/backend on the server. Each user would activate the frontend on the server and then the backend on the server would of course be linked to the frontend. They said this shared backend/frontend situation worked fine and that there was no need to put the frontend on each workstation. Anyone know the ramifications for this frontend/backend on server idea? Does this impact the network performance? Does this reduce the maximum number of concurrent users? Would Access have to be installed on the server to make this viable? Thanks in advance, Bill _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com Mon Apr 14 08:41:54 2003 From: jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 09:41:54 -0400 Subject: [Accessd] FE/BE on server vs FE on workstation/BE on server? In-Reply-To: <768A0EA6FF8CB34FA522978966E5D52E559D6E@bwam02msx.ae.ge.com> Message-ID: Also the network traffic goes up, perhaps immensely. With a shared FE on the server, every time a form is opened, the form and all queries for the form, combos etc have to be loaded over the network. Likewise with reports. Using a shared FE is generally NOT considered a good idea by experienced developers. If a single workstation has a flaky network connection, you can end up corrupting the FE. If the FE corrupts, the entire set of users goes down until it is repaired. If each user has his own copy on the desktop, this will not happen. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting) Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 9:31 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [Accessd] FE/BE on server vs FE on workstation/BE on server? Bill, Forgot to mention that if the network goes down, you won't have any code that runs to detect this. You'll have no control over the error message that is displayed. Access still needs to be on the users machine (if you aren't using terminal services to run this thing). Also, database bloat will probably happen at an accelerated rate. I'm sure there are other issues. These just came to mind immediately. Scott -----Original Message----- From: Bill Morrill [mailto:bmorrill at attbi.com] Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 9:14 AM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [Accessd] FE/BE on server vs FE on workstation/BE on server? 4-14-03 For sometime I have been putting frontends(forms, queries, reports etc) on workstation machines and backends(tables) on server. Links would then be made from each workstation to the server. Recently, a user mentioned that they were using the same database frontend/backend on the server. Each user would activate the frontend on the server and then the backend on the server would of course be linked to the frontend. They said this shared backend/frontend situation worked fine and that there was no need to put the frontend on each workstation. Anyone know the ramifications for this frontend/backend on server idea? Does this impact the network performance? Does this reduce the maximum number of concurrent users? 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Message-ID: <01C3026C.EB5D7540.bob@renaissancesiding.com> Isn't it also probable that any 'customizations' made by a user (such as sorting or filtering on forms, etc) could be (inadvertently) saved and then subsequent users would be defaulted to the modified settings? Bob Gajewski On Monday, April 14, 2003 09:42 AM, John W. Colby [SMTP:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com] wrote: > Also the network traffic goes up, perhaps immensely. With a shared FE on the server, every time a form is opened, the form and all queries for the form, combos etc have to be loaded over the network. Likewise with reports. > > Using a shared FE is generally NOT considered a good idea by experienced developers. If a single workstation has a flaky network connection, you can end up corrupting the FE. If the FE corrupts, the entire set of users goes down until it is repaired. If each user has his own copy on the desktop, this will not happen. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Marcus, Scott > (GEAE, RHI Consulting) > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 9:31 AM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [Accessd] FE/BE on server vs FE on workstation/BE on > server? > > > Bill, > > Forgot to mention that if the network goes down, you won't have any code that > runs to detect this. You'll have no control over the error message that is > displayed. > > Access still needs to be on the users machine (if you aren't using terminal > services to run this thing). > > Also, database bloat will probably happen at an accelerated rate. > > I'm sure there are other issues. These just came to mind immediately. > > Scott > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Morrill [mailto:bmorrill at attbi.com] > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 9:14 AM > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [Accessd] FE/BE on server vs FE on workstation/BE on server? > > > 4-14-03 > > For sometime I have been putting frontends(forms, queries, reports etc) on > workstation machines and backends(tables) on server. Links would then be > made from each workstation to the server. > > Recently, a user mentioned that they were using the same database > frontend/backend on the server. Each user would activate the frontend on > the server and then the backend on the server would of course be linked to > the frontend. They said this shared backend/frontend situation worked fine > and that there was no need to put the frontend on each workstation. > > Anyone know the ramifications for this frontend/backend on server idea? > Does this impact the network performance? Does this reduce the maximum > number of concurrent users? Would Access have to be installed on the server > to make this viable? > > Thanks in advance, > > Bill > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. > Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com << File: ATT00049.txt >> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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With a shared FE on > the server, every time a form is opened, the form and all queries for the > form, combos etc have to be loaded over the network. Likewise with reports. > > Using a shared FE is generally NOT considered a good idea by experienced > developers. If a single workstation has a flaky network connection, you can > end up corrupting the FE. If the FE corrupts, the entire set of users goes > down until it is repaired. If each user has his own copy on the desktop, > this will not happen. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Marcus, Scott > (GEAE, RHI Consulting) > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 9:31 AM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [Accessd] FE/BE on server vs FE on workstation/BE on > server? > > > Bill, > > Forgot to mention that if the network goes down, you won't have any code > that > runs to detect this. You'll have no control over the error message that is > displayed. > > Access still needs to be on the users machine (if you aren't using terminal > services to run this thing). > > Also, database bloat will probably happen at an accelerated rate. > > I'm sure there are other issues. These just came to mind immediately. > > Scott > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Morrill [mailto:bmorrill at attbi.com] > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 9:14 AM > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [Accessd] FE/BE on server vs FE on workstation/BE on server? > > > 4-14-03 > > For sometime I have been putting frontends(forms, queries, reports etc) on > workstation machines and backends(tables) on server. Links would then be > made from each workstation to the server. > > Recently, a user mentioned that they were using the same database > frontend/backend on the server. Each user would activate the frontend on > the server and then the backend on the server would of course be linked to > the frontend. They said this shared backend/frontend situation worked fine > and that there was no need to put the frontend on each workstation. > > Anyone know the ramifications for this frontend/backend on server idea? > Does this impact the network performance? Does this reduce the maximum > number of concurrent users? Would Access have to be installed on the server > to make this viable? > > Thanks in advance, > > Bill > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Is email taking over your day? Manage your time with eMailBoss. > Try it free! http://www.eMailBoss.com > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From hsimpson88 at hotmail.com Mon Apr 14 09:30:52 2003 From: hsimpson88 at hotmail.com (Henry Simpson) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 08:30:52 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Importing Excel .csv to Access Message-ID: Mark: I often get this behaviour when running Excel 97 automation and I interrupt the Excel object clean up code while debugging Excel manipulation code. Once I shutdown the Access driver application, Excel opens clean again. This suggests to me that it happens when you fail to properly clean up Excel object variables. If the Excel sheets come with code or are you using automation this may be worth a look. Hen >From: "Mitsules, Mark" >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >To: "'AccessD'" >Subject: [AccessD] Importing Excel .csv to Access >Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 09:45:29 -0400 > >Group, > >I received several Excel files from a client for import, however, when I >attempt to open the file, the only visible areas are the border and >toolbars. The desktop can be seen through the window. I've found that if >I >toggle the "Full Screen" option in the pull down menus on and then off, the >Excel display returns to normal. Can anyone explain this behavior, and >offer a solution that will open the Excel window normally by default? > > > >Mark >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From bob at renaissancesiding.com Mon Apr 14 09:35:19 2003 From: bob at renaissancesiding.com (Bob Gajewski) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 10:35:19 -0400 Subject: [Accessd] FE/BE on server vs FE on workstation/BE on server? Message-ID: <01C30271.8CDF99D0.bob@renaissancesiding.com> Lembit A great idea, of course! I was referred to the following batch file, and have been using it (with slight personalizations) quite successfully. This is for Access 97, but can be easily modified. Regards, Bob Gajewski On Monday, April 14, 2003 10:07 AM, Lembit Soobik [SMTP:Lembit.Soobik at t-online.de] wrote: > one alternative is to put a little batch job on each worstation that copies the > FE from the server to the workstation. this will give you two advantages: no > bloat of the FE, since you always copy the fresh FE, and updating FE is easier > (only one location) > Lembit > > Lembit Soobik > WARNING: WATCH FOR LINE WRAP IN YOUR BROWSER =================================================== REM A batch file to update a MS Access database then run it under a secure workgroup REM by Keith Harvey 09/2000 - harvey at hunterlink.net.au REM **** USER ACCEPTS ALL RISKS WHEN USING THIS BATCH FILE **** REM **** STOP MESSAGES, CLEAR SCREEN, KEEP USER INFORMED **** ECHO off CLS ECHO. ECHO Starting Your Front End. Should only take a few seconds ... ECHO. REM Note that the variables and the batch file name MUST be customised for each database REM ***** ABOUT THE VARIABLES ******. REM PGRM is the variable for the file name of your current Front_End.mdb. REM When updating the version of the Front End simply change PGM and resave the batch file REM (Note: PGRM must also fit the LOCDEL naming pattern below so old versions delete OK.) REM LOCDIR is the directory on the Client PC that will hold the working version of PGRM REM LOCDEL is the pattern of files to delete in LOCDIR if the latest version REM of PGRM can't be found (Note that the value of LOCDEL is case sensitive) REM (Vital Note: TRIPLE CHECK the items you assign to LOCDIR and LOCDEL. Delete is REM VERY unforgiving. NEVER EVER set LOCDIR to just C: or LOCDEL to *.*) REM MSACC is the dos path to MS Access on the local PC. REM SRVDIR is the directory on the Server to get the latest version of PGM from. REM WKGRP is the location of the access secure workgroup to use. (Note. Leave WKGRP blank REM if you are using the standard MSAccess work group) REM ***** THE VARIABLES ***** set PGM=yourdb.mdb set LOCDIR="C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office 8.0\Office" set LOCDEL=yourdb.mdb set MSACC="C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office 8.0\MSACCESS.EXE" set SRVDIR="f:" set WKGRP=/wrkgrp "\\srvdir\System\yoursystem.mda" REM ***** COPY YOUR CURRENT FRONT END TO THE PC CLIENT ***** REM Check if the local directory LOCDIR exists, if not then create it. REM If current version of PGM does not exist in LOCDIR then: REM 1. Keep the customers happy! REM 2. Delete any old versions of PGM from LOCDIR, REM 3. Copy the new version of PGM to LOCDIR if not exist %LOCDIR% md %LOCDIR% if not exist %LOCDIR%\%PGM% echo Updating to the latest version of %PGM% ... if not exist %LOCDIR%\%PGM% del %LOCDIR%\%LOCDEL% copy %SRVDIR%\%PGM% %LOCDIR%\%PGM% /D if not exist %LOCDIR%\%PGM% xcopy %SRVDIR%\%PGM% %LOCDIR%\%PGM% REM **** FINALLY, START THE LATEST VERSION OF THE FRONT END ON THE PC ****** START /MAX %MSACC% %WKGRP% %LOCDIR%\%PGM% REM **** CLOSE THE MSDOS WINDOW **** cls From jim.hale at fleetpride.com Mon Apr 14 09:34:55 2003 From: jim.hale at fleetpride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 09:34:55 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Importing Excel .csv to Access Message-ID: <869379ABF177D4118D3100508B5EF87305B5B24C@corp-es00> If misery loves company this happens to me too after running Excel from Access. I vaguely recall reading this is a bug but I can't find the reference article. Jim Hale -----Original Message----- From: Mitsules, Mark [mailto:mitsules_ms at nns.com] Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 8:45 AM To: 'AccessD' Subject: [AccessD] Importing Excel .csv to Access Group, I received several Excel files from a client for import, however, when I attempt to open the file, the only visible areas are the border and toolbars. The desktop can be seen through the window. I've found that if I toggle the "Full Screen" option in the pull down menus on and then off, the Excel display returns to normal. Can anyone explain this behavior, and offer a solution that will open the Excel window normally by default? Mark _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of William Hindman Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 4:10 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] RE: New web site Group ...just wanted to add my own personal ...and dba ...view on Kathryn's (Kati to me) contributions to the origination and maintenance of AccessD's (now dba) website ...over a period exceeding the past two years while many web site gurus and volunteers came and went from the ranks of those who were willing to donate their time and skills to building and maintaining the dba website, Kati was the one constant in the equation ...she began knowing nothing whatsoever about html, but with a willingness and determination that both outlasted and in many, many instances outshone that of many among us with far more skills and experience ...the very existence of the dba website owes itself, in my not so humble opinion ...and certain knowledge ...to Kati's unfailing dedication to doing whatever it took no matter the circumstances or criticism that came her way ...regardless of the many and inevitable differences of opinion we had over that time, Kati was the one who was always there when the chips were down. ...this is not intended as a paean but I couldn't let the transfer of the dba site maintenance duties and responsibilities to pass quietly by without adding my view of the contributions of one who was there at its conception and stayed with it through some very hard times ...Kati deserves that and much more. ...and congratulations Jim, the new site design is a big step toward the highly professional website we had in mind when dba started down this road so long ago ...bet you had no idea of the barrel of monkeys you were jumping into when you first volunteered :))) William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 3:21 PM Subject: [AccessD] RE: New web site Hi all: The DataBase Advisors is moving to a new web site format. Kathryn Bassett is stepping aside as the original site Web Master and the gap is being filled by myself, Jim Lawrence. I would like to personally thank her for her years of hard work and dedication and I am sure she will continue to provide advisory and specific project support. A group of other list members will also be assisting in providing project and site support. Their names will be listed on the new site. The new site will be in place as of this weekend. If you have any questions or comments please address them to this list. Thank you Jim Lawrence -------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mikedorism at ntelos.net Mon Apr 14 09:43:41 2003 From: mikedorism at ntelos.net (Mike and Doris Manning) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 10:43:41 -0400 Subject: [Accessd] FE/BE on server vs FE on workstation/BE on server? In-Reply-To: <001701c30287$c1149d20$70d6d30c@attbi.com> Message-ID: <001001c30294$41b14da0$c4350cd8@hargrove.internal> Another drawback is that you won't be able to take exclusive control of the network FE when changes are needed. You'll have to wait for all the users to get out of the database or have a way to kick them out. Doris Manning Database Administrator Hargrove Inc. www.hargroveinc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Morrill Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 9:14 AM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [Accessd] FE/BE on server vs FE on workstation/BE on server? 4-14-03 For sometime I have been putting frontends(forms, queries, reports etc) on workstation machines and backends(tables) on server. Links would then be made from each workstation to the server. Recently, a user mentioned that they were using the same database frontend/backend on the server. Each user would activate the frontend on the server and then the backend on the server would of course be linked to the frontend. They said this shared backend/frontend situation worked fine and that there was no need to put the frontend on each workstation. Anyone know the ramifications for this frontend/backend on server idea? Does this impact the network performance? Does this reduce the maximum number of concurrent users? Would Access have to be installed on the server to make this viable? Thanks in advance, Bill _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com Mon Apr 14 09:57:03 2003 From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com (rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 09:57:03 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters Message-ID: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A4EBC63@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net> Does anyone have any code that will search a string variable for a string that includes wildcard characters and returns the location? ie strVariable="This is a test" search strVariable for "te??" returns 11 Rusty From JHewson at karta.com Mon Apr 14 10:00:00 2003 From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 10:00:00 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Treeview not working when form opens (SOLVED) Message-ID: <353A32F9B331D411BB8F00A0C9FC503701294B2C@NT04> After changing the code several times, without success. I stripped all code except for the treeview in the form... it worked! I had the restore command in the OnOpen event. I removed it and the treeview works as intended. Thanks Jim -----Original Message----- From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 2:31 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Treeview not working when form opens Jim ...it would help to see your code for the Form Load event ...your question doesn't have enough info in it to help us help you :) William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Hewson" To: Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 11:29 AM Subject: [AccessD] Treeview not working when form opens > > I have spent way too much time on trying to figure this out... > A2K, Win2000 > > I have a treeview that does not populate when the form is opened. > It does populate when going from design view to form view. > If I open the queries that generate the nodes before the form opens it works > as intended. > What can be causing this problem? > > TIA > Jim > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Jdemarco at hshhp.org Mon Apr 14 10:01:52 2003 From: Jdemarco at hshhp.org (Jim DeMarco) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 11:01:52 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters Message-ID: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F99D85932@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com> Rusty, The Windows Scripting Host library has a Regular Expression object you can use to find pattern matches but I'm not sure it returns a position. Worth looking into though. HTH, Jim DeMarco Director of Product Development HealthSource/Hudson Health Plan -----Original Message----- From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com [mailto:rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com] Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 10:57 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters Does anyone have any code that will search a string variable for a string that includes wildcard characters and returns the location? ie strVariable="This is a test" search strVariable for "te??" returns 11 Rusty _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com *********************************************************************************** "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged. 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The next time they startup, they all have the latest version that next day. Greg Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Morrill" To: Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 8:14 AM Subject: [Accessd] FE/BE on server vs FE on workstation/BE on server? 4-14-03 For sometime I have been putting frontends(forms, queries, reports etc) on workstation machines and backends(tables) on server. Links would then be made from each workstation to the server. Recently, a user mentioned that they were using the same database frontend/backend on the server. Each user would activate the frontend on the server and then the backend on the server would of course be linked to the frontend. They said this shared backend/frontend situation worked fine and that there was no need to put the frontend on each workstation. Anyone know the ramifications for this frontend/backend on server idea? Does this impact the network performance? Does this reduce the maximum number of concurrent users? Would Access have to be installed on the server to make this viable? Thanks in advance, Bill _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com Mon Apr 14 10:13:52 2003 From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 10:13:52 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] RE: New web site Message-ID: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB2338C72C@TAPPEEXCH01> I was wondering the same thing. I then scrolled down to see William talking about "being there at its conception", and thought that this was getting a little wierd. -----Original Message----- From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk] Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 11:03 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] RE: New web site Susan >mom issues I read that first as something to do with babies, then got confused by the last couple of statements. Should that perhaps have been mtm? Wouldn't normally dream of mentioning a typo but I'd hate people to get the wrong impression! -- Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk --------- Original Message -------- From: "Susan Harkins" To: "accessd at databaseadvisors.com" Subject: Re: [AccessD] RE: New web site Date: 14/04/03 14:47 Not to mention the mom issues -- I know we haven't had one lately -- but for the ones that are up -- all I ever did was send her doc files -- she did the rest. :) Susan H. I agree full heartedly. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of William Hindman Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 4:10 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] RE: New web site Group ...just wanted to add my own personal ...and dba ...view on Kathryn's (Kati to me) contributions to the origination and maintenance of AccessD's (now dba) website ...over a period exceeding the past two years while many web site gurus and volunteers came and went from the ranks of those who were willing to donate their time and skills to building and maintaining the dba website, Kati was the one constant in the equation ...she began knowing nothing whatsoever about html, but with a willingness and determination that both outlasted and in many, many instances outshone that of many among us with far more skills and experience ...the very existence of the dba website owes itself, in my not so humble opinion ...and certain knowledge ...to Kati's unfailing dedication to doing whatever it took no matter the circumstances or criticism that came her way ...regardless of the many and inevitable differences of opinion we had over that time, Kati was the one who was always there when the chips were down. ...this is not intended as a paean but I couldn't let the transfer of the dba site maintenance duties and responsibilities to pass quietly by without adding my view of the contributions of one who was there at its conception and stayed with it through some very hard times ...Kati deserves that and much more. ...and congratulations Jim, the new site design is a big step toward the highly professional website we had in mind when dba started down this road so long ago ...bet you had no idea of the barrel of monkeys you were jumping into when you first volunteered :))) William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 3:21 PM Subject: [AccessD] RE: New web site Hi all: The DataBase Advisors is moving to a new web site format. Kathryn Bassett is stepping aside as the original site Web Master and the gap is being filled by myself, Jim Lawrence. I would like to personally thank her for her years of hard work and dedication and I am sure she will continue to provide advisory and specific project support. A group of other list members will also be assisting in providing project and site support. Their names will be listed on the new site. The new site will be in place as of this weekend. If you have any questions or comments please address them to this list. 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Doris Manning Database Administrator Hargrove Inc. www.hargroveinc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 10:57 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters Does anyone have any code that will search a string variable for a string that includes wildcard characters and returns the location? ie strVariable="This is a test" search strVariable for "te??" returns 11 Rusty _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Mon Apr 14 10:24:28 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 11:24:28 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] RE: New web site References: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB2338C72C@TAPPEEXCH01> Message-ID: <002001c30299$f0edbd30$6101a8c0@amd2k512> ...ROTFLMAOSCAOMS!!!!!! William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: Brett Barabash To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 11:13 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: New web site I was wondering the same thing. I then scrolled down to see William talking about "being there at its conception", and thought that this was getting a little wierd. -----Original Message----- From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk] Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 11:03 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] RE: New web site Susan >mom issues I read that first as something to do with babies, then got confused by the last couple of statements. Should that perhaps have been mtm? Wouldn't normally dream of mentioning a typo but I'd hate people to get the wrong impression! -- Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk --------- Original Message -------- From: "Susan Harkins" To: "accessd at databaseadvisors.com" Subject: Re: [AccessD] RE: New web site Date: 14/04/03 14:47 Not to mention the mom issues -- I know we haven't had one lately -- but for the ones that are up -- all I ever did was send her doc files -- she did the rest. :) Susan H. I agree full heartedly. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of William Hindman Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 4:10 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] RE: New web site Group ...just wanted to add my own personal ...and dba ...view on Kathryn's (Kati to me) contributions to the origination and maintenance of AccessD's (now dba) website ...over a period exceeding the past two years while many web site gurus and volunteers came and went from the ranks of those who were willing to donate their time and skills to building and maintaining the dba website, Kati was the one constant in the equation ...she began knowing nothing whatsoever about html, but with a willingness and determination that both outlasted and in many, many instances outshone that of many among us with far more skills and experience ...the very existence of the dba website owes itself, in my not so humble opinion ...and certain knowledge ...to Kati's unfailing dedication to doing whatever it took no matter the circumstances or criticism that came her way ...regardless of the many and inevitable differences of opinion we had over that time, Kati was the one who was always there when the chips were down. ...this is not intended as a paean but I couldn't let the transfer of the dba site maintenance duties and responsibilities to pass quietly by without adding my view of the contributions of one who was there at its conception and stayed with it through some very hard times ...Kati deserves that and much more. ...and congratulations Jim, the new site design is a big step toward the highly professional website we had in mind when dba started down this road so long ago ...bet you had no idea of the barrel of monkeys you were jumping into when you first volunteered :))) William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 3:21 PM Subject: [AccessD] RE: New web site Hi all: The DataBase Advisors is moving to a new web site format. Kathryn Bassett is stepping aside as the original site Web Master and the gap is being filled by myself, Jim Lawrence. I would like to personally thank her for her years of hard work and dedication and I am sure she will continue to provide advisory and specific project support. A group of other list members will also be assisting in providing project and site support. Their names will be listed on the new site. The new site will be in place as of this weekend. If you have any questions or comments please address them to this list. 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Doris Manning Database Administrator Hargrove Inc. www.hargroveinc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 10:57 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters Does anyone have any code that will search a string variable for a string that includes wildcard characters and returns the location? ie strVariable="This is a test" search strVariable for "te??" returns 11 Rusty _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com *********************************************************************************** "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged. 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Susan >mom issues I read that first as something to do with babies, then got confused by the last couple of statements. Should that perhaps have been mtm? Wouldn't normally dream of mentioning a typo but I'd hate people to get the wrong impression! -- Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk --------- Original Message -------- From: "Susan Harkins" To: "accessd at databaseadvisors.com" Subject: Re: [AccessD] RE: New web site Date: 14/04/03 14:47 Not to mention the mom issues -- I know we haven't had one lately -- but for the ones that are up -- all I ever did was send her doc files -- she did the rest. :) Susan H. I agree full heartedly. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of William Hindman Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 4:10 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] RE: New web site Group ...just wanted to add my own personal ...and dba ...view on Kathryn's (Kati to me) contributions to the origination and maintenance of AccessD's (now dba) website ...over a period exceeding the past two years while many web site gurus and volunteers came and went from the ranks of those who were willing to donate their time and skills to building and maintaining the dba website, Kati was the one constant in the equation ...she began knowing nothing whatsoever about html, but with a willingness and determination that both outlasted and in many, many instances outshone that of many among us with far more skills and experience ...the very existence of the dba website owes itself, in my not so humble opinion ...and certain knowledge ...to Kati's unfailing dedication to doing whatever it took no matter the circumstances or criticism that came her way ...regardless of the many and inevitable differences of opinion we had over that time, Kati was the one who was always there when the chips were down. ...this is not intended as a paean but I couldn't let the transfer of the dba site maintenance duties and responsibilities to pass quietly by without adding my view of the contributions of one who was there at its conception and stayed with it through some very hard times ...Kati deserves that and much more. ...and congratulations Jim, the new site design is a big step toward the highly professional website we had in mind when dba started down this road so long ago ...bet you had no idea of the barrel of monkeys you were jumping into when you first volunteered :))) William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 3:21 PM Subject: [AccessD] RE: New web site Hi all: The DataBase Advisors is moving to a new web site format. Kathryn Bassett is stepping aside as the original site Web Master and the gap is being filled by myself, Jim Lawrence. I would like to personally thank her for her years of hard work and dedication and I am sure she will continue to provide advisory and specific project support. A group of other list members will also be assisting in providing project and site support. Their names will be listed on the new site. The new site will be in place as of this weekend. If you have any questions or comments please address them to this list. 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Susan >mom issues I read that first as something to do with babies, then got confused by the last couple of statements. Should that perhaps have been mtm? Wouldn't normally dream of mentioning a typo but I'd hate people to get the wrong impression! -- Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk --------- Original Message -------- From: "Susan Harkins" To: "accessd at databaseadvisors.com" Subject: Re: [AccessD] RE: New web site Date: 14/04/03 14:47 Not to mention the mom issues -- I know we haven't had one lately -- but for the ones that are up -- all I ever did was send her doc files -- she did the rest. :) Susan H. From rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com Mon Apr 14 11:00:19 2003 From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com (rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 11:00:19 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters Message-ID: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A4EBC65@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net> I think if there was a way to incorporate the Like operator with the InStr function then my problem would be solved. Let me explain what I'm doing and maybe someone will have suggestion for a better way of doing it. My client sends a text file of invoices to a Railroad (RR) company. This RR requires a specific file format for their billing system to import the invoices. My client has tried working with their accounting software people to get the format they need but they say they have done what they need to do so if it requires more coding they will do at a fee of $250 per hour and quoted 25 hours (great money if you can get it). Anyway, I'm taking the text file the accounting software creates which is close to what is needed, and making the few more changes to it to make it compatible with the RR company. So far, I've discoved that by searching the file for certain strings, I can replace that string with something else. It's been fairly simple up to this point since the strings I'm searching for have all been static. I'm storing the strings to search for and replace with in a table so if something changes they just adjust the strings in the table and away we go. Now we have a change where the portion of the file I need to change includes a date which changes with each new file. Now, I could have the client change the date in the searchfor string each time they run the program for a new file but it would be really nice if I could have a function search for "N1~GA~????????" (where the ?'s represent a date in yyyymmdd format)in this string "REF~03~!N1~GA~20020414" and return a 9. Clear as mud? Rusty -----Original Message----- From: Mike and Doris Manning [mailto:mikedorism at ntelos.net] Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 10:20 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters How about InStr function? Doris Manning Database Administrator Hargrove Inc. www.hargroveinc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 10:57 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters Does anyone have any code that will search a string variable for a string that includes wildcard characters and returns the location? ie strVariable="This is a test" search strVariable for "te??" returns 11 Rusty _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Mon Apr 14 11:12:19 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 11:12:19 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters Message-ID: Rusty, EDI or XML is the way to go for passing files between different organizations. You should be billing the RR for your time if they refuse to adopt either of those standards instead of your client. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com [mailto:rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com] Sent: Monday 2003 Apr 14 11:00 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters I think if there was a way to incorporate the Like operator with the InStr function then my problem would be solved. Let me explain what I'm doing and maybe someone will have suggestion for a better way of doing it. My client sends a text file of invoices to a Railroad (RR) company. This RR requires a specific file format for their billing system to import the invoices. My client has tried working with their accounting software people to get the format they need but they say they have done what they need to do so if it requires more coding they will do at a fee of $250 per hour and quoted 25 hours (great money if you can get it). Anyway, I'm taking the text file the accounting software creates which is close to what is needed, and making the few more changes to it to make it compatible with the RR company. So far, I've discoved that by searching the file for certain strings, I can replace that string with something else. It's been fairly simple up to this point since the strings I'm searching for have all been static. I'm storing the strings to search for and replace with in a table so if something changes they just adjust the strings in the table and away we go. Now we have a change where the portion of the file I need to change includes a date which changes with each new file. Now, I could have the client change the date in the searchfor string each time they run the program for a new file but it would be really nice if I could have a function search for "N1~GA~????????" (where the ?'s represent a date in yyyymmdd format)in this string "REF~03~!N1~GA~20020414" and return a 9. Clear as mud? Rusty -----Original Message----- From: Mike and Doris Manning [mailto:mikedorism at ntelos.net] Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 10:20 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters How about InStr function? Doris Manning Database Administrator Hargrove Inc. www.hargroveinc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 10:57 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters Does anyone have any code that will search a string variable for a string that includes wildcard characters and returns the location? ie strVariable="This is a test" search strVariable for "te??" returns 11 Rusty From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Mon Apr 14 11:42:08 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 12:42:08 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] RE: New web site References: <20030414153941.4774F1D6C87@mrburns.nildram.co.uk> Message-ID: <007801c302a4$ca4816c0$6101a8c0@amd2k512> ...SCAOMS ...spewing caffeine all over my screen :) William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Lacey To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] RE: New web site You'll have to translate that William. I'm not fluent in acronymish. -- Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk --------- Original Message -------- From: "William Hindman" To: "accessd at databaseadvisors.com" Subject: Re: [AccessD] RE: New web site Date: 14/04/03 15:29 ...ROTFLMAOSCAOMS!!!!!! William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: Brett Barabash To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 11:13 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: New web site I was wondering the same thing. I then scrolled down to see William talking about "being there at its conception", and thought that this was getting a little wierd. -----Original Message----- From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk] Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 11:03 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] RE: New web site Susan >mom issues I read that first as something to do with babies, then got confused by the last couple of statements. Should that perhaps have been mtm? Wouldn't normally dream of mentioning a typo but I'd hate people to get the wrong impression! -- Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk --------- Original Message -------- From: "Susan Harkins" To: "accessd at databaseadvisors.com" Subject: Re: [AccessD] RE: New web site Date: 14/04/03 14:47 Not to mention the mom issues -- I know we haven't had one lately -- but for the ones that are up -- all I ever did was send her doc files -- she did the rest. :) Susan H. I agree full heartedly. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of William Hindman Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 4:10 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] RE: New web site Group ...just wanted to add my own personal ...and dba ...view on Kathryn's (Kati to me) contributions to the origination and maintenance of AccessD's (now dba) website ....over a period exceeding the past two years while many web site gurus and volunteers came and went from the ranks of those who were willing to donate their time and skills to building and maintaining the dba website, Kati was the one constant in the equation ...she began knowing nothing whatsoever about html, but with a willingness and determination that both outlasted and in many, many instances outshone that of many among us with far more skills and experience ....the very existence of the dba website owes itself, in my not so humble opinion ...and certain knowledge ...to Kati's unfailing dedication to doing whatever it took no matter the circumstances or criticism that came her way ...regardless of the many and inevitable differences of opinion we had over that time, Kati was the one who was always there when the chips were down. ...this is not intended as a paean but I couldn't let the transfer of the dba site maintenance duties and responsibilities to pass quietly by without adding my view of the contributions of one who was there at its conception and stayed with it through some very hard times ...Kati deserves that and much more. ...and congratulations Jim, the new site design is a big step toward the highly professional website we had in mind when dba started down this road so long ago ....bet you had no idea of the barrel of monkeys you were jumping into when you first volunteered :))) William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 3:21 PM Subject: [AccessD] RE: New web site Hi all: The DataBase Advisors is moving to a new web site format. Kathryn Bassett is stepping aside as the original site Web Master and the gap is being filled by myself, Jim Lawrence. I would like to personally thank her for her years of hard work and dedication and I am sure she will continue to provide advisory and specific project support. A group of other list members will also be assisting in providing project and site support. Their names will be listed on the new site. The new site will be in place as of this weekend. If you have any questions or comments please address them to this list. 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URL: From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Mon Apr 14 11:51:07 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 12:51:07 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters References: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A4EBC65@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net> Message-ID: <008601c302a6$0b3e3a00$6101a8c0@amd2k512> "and return a 9" ...that's about as close to mud as you can get ...how did you arrive at the "9"? :( William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 12:00 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters > I think if there was a way to incorporate the Like operator with the InStr > function then my problem would be solved. > > Let me explain what I'm doing and maybe someone will have suggestion for a > better way of doing it. > > My client sends a text file of invoices to a Railroad (RR) company. This RR > requires a specific file format for their billing system to import the > invoices. My client has tried working with their accounting software people > to get the format they need but they say they have done what they need to do > so if it requires more coding they will do at a fee of $250 per hour and > quoted 25 hours (great money if you can get it). > > Anyway, I'm taking the text file the accounting software creates which is > close to what is needed, and making the few more changes to it to make it > compatible with the RR company. So far, I've discoved that by searching the > file for certain strings, I can replace that string with something else. > It's been fairly simple up to this point since the strings I'm searching for > have all been static. I'm storing the strings to search for and replace > with in a table so if something changes they just adjust the strings in the > table and away we go. > > Now we have a change where the portion of the file I need to change includes > a date which changes with each new file. Now, I could have the client > change the date in the searchfor string each time they run the program for a > new file but it would be really nice if I could have a function search for > "N1~GA~????????" (where the ?'s represent a date in yyyymmdd format)in this > string "REF~03~!N1~GA~20020414" and return a 9. > > Clear as mud? > > Rusty > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike and Doris Manning [mailto:mikedorism at ntelos.net] > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 10:20 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters > > > How about InStr function? > > Doris Manning > Database Administrator > Hargrove Inc. > www.hargroveinc.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 10:57 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters > > > Does anyone have any code that will search a string variable for a string > that includes wildcard characters and returns the location? > > ie > strVariable="This is a test" > search strVariable for "te??" returns 11 > > > Rusty > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From mikedorism at ntelos.net Mon Apr 14 11:55:18 2003 From: mikedorism at ntelos.net (Mike and Doris Manning) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 12:55:18 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters In-Reply-To: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A4EBC65@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net> Message-ID: <001d01c302a6$a43577a0$c4350cd8@hargrove.internal> What about searching for "N1~GA~" and having the program replace the 8 characters that follow with the new date? You could probably add an additional fields to your search/replace table to denote places where the search string is followed by a date that needs to be replaced instead of the actual string being replaced. Doris Manning Database Administrator Hargrove Inc. www.hargroveinc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 12:00 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters I think if there was a way to incorporate the Like operator with the InStr function then my problem would be solved. Let me explain what I'm doing and maybe someone will have suggestion for a better way of doing it. My client sends a text file of invoices to a Railroad (RR) company. This RR requires a specific file format for their billing system to import the invoices. My client has tried working with their accounting software people to get the format they need but they say they have done what they need to do so if it requires more coding they will do at a fee of $250 per hour and quoted 25 hours (great money if you can get it). Anyway, I'm taking the text file the accounting software creates which is close to what is needed, and making the few more changes to it to make it compatible with the RR company. So far, I've discoved that by searching the file for certain strings, I can replace that string with something else. It's been fairly simple up to this point since the strings I'm searching for have all been static. I'm storing the strings to search for and replace with in a table so if something changes they just adjust the strings in the table and away we go. Now we have a change where the portion of the file I need to change includes a date which changes with each new file. Now, I could have the client change the date in the searchfor string each time they run the program for a new file but it would be really nice if I could have a function search for "N1~GA~????????" (where the ?'s represent a date in yyyymmdd format)in this string "REF~03~!N1~GA~20020414" and return a 9. Clear as mud? Rusty -----Original Message----- From: Mike and Doris Manning [mailto:mikedorism at ntelos.net] Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 10:20 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters How about InStr function? Doris Manning Database Administrator Hargrove Inc. www.hargroveinc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 10:57 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters Does anyone have any code that will search a string variable for a string that includes wildcard characters and returns the location? ie strVariable="This is a test" search strVariable for "te??" returns 11 Rusty _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From delliker at hotmail.com Mon Apr 14 11:59:15 2003 From: delliker at hotmail.com (Don Elliker) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 12:59:15 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bchacc at san.rr.com Mon Apr 14 12:58:24 2003 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 10:58:24 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Can User Select Zoom Level on Preview? Message-ID: <008f01c302af$71ab4d10$6501a8c0@HAL9002> Dear List: I have a user who wants to be able to select a non-standard zoom level (85%) for his report previews. There are constants in RunCommand (acCmdZoomnn) for 10, 25, 50, 75 and 100 per cent. Is there a way to set 85% or some other value? MTIA, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com Mon Apr 14 13:11:23 2003 From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com (rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 13:11:23 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters Message-ID: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A4EBC66@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net> Was just thinking about that after I sent the e-mail. Sometimes it pays to go back over a project and re-think it. -----Original Message----- From: Mike and Doris Manning [mailto:mikedorism at ntelos.net] Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 11:55 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters What about searching for "N1~GA~" and having the program replace the 8 characters that follow with the new date? You could probably add an additional fields to your search/replace table to denote places where the search string is followed by a date that needs to be replaced instead of the actual string being replaced. Doris Manning Database Administrator Hargrove Inc. www.hargroveinc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 12:00 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters I think if there was a way to incorporate the Like operator with the InStr function then my problem would be solved. Let me explain what I'm doing and maybe someone will have suggestion for a better way of doing it. My client sends a text file of invoices to a Railroad (RR) company. This RR requires a specific file format for their billing system to import the invoices. My client has tried working with their accounting software people to get the format they need but they say they have done what they need to do so if it requires more coding they will do at a fee of $250 per hour and quoted 25 hours (great money if you can get it). Anyway, I'm taking the text file the accounting software creates which is close to what is needed, and making the few more changes to it to make it compatible with the RR company. So far, I've discoved that by searching the file for certain strings, I can replace that string with something else. It's been fairly simple up to this point since the strings I'm searching for have all been static. I'm storing the strings to search for and replace with in a table so if something changes they just adjust the strings in the table and away we go. Now we have a change where the portion of the file I need to change includes a date which changes with each new file. Now, I could have the client change the date in the searchfor string each time they run the program for a new file but it would be really nice if I could have a function search for "N1~GA~????????" (where the ?'s represent a date in yyyymmdd format)in this string "REF~03~!N1~GA~20020414" and return a 9. Clear as mud? Rusty -----Original Message----- From: Mike and Doris Manning [mailto:mikedorism at ntelos.net] Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 10:20 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters How about InStr function? Doris Manning Database Administrator Hargrove Inc. www.hargroveinc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 10:57 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters Does anyone have any code that will search a string variable for a string that includes wildcard characters and returns the location? ie strVariable="This is a test" search strVariable for "te??" returns 11 Rusty _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com Mon Apr 14 13:13:10 2003 From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com (rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 13:13:10 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters Message-ID: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A4EBC67@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net> The ninth position in the string being searched. That's where the string being looked for starts. -----Original Message----- From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 11:51 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters "and return a 9" ...that's about as close to mud as you can get ...how did you arrive at the "9"? :( William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 12:00 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters > I think if there was a way to incorporate the Like operator with the InStr > function then my problem would be solved. > > Let me explain what I'm doing and maybe someone will have suggestion for a > better way of doing it. > > My client sends a text file of invoices to a Railroad (RR) company. This RR > requires a specific file format for their billing system to import the > invoices. My client has tried working with their accounting software people > to get the format they need but they say they have done what they need to do > so if it requires more coding they will do at a fee of $250 per hour and > quoted 25 hours (great money if you can get it). > > Anyway, I'm taking the text file the accounting software creates which is > close to what is needed, and making the few more changes to it to make it > compatible with the RR company. So far, I've discoved that by searching the > file for certain strings, I can replace that string with something else. > It's been fairly simple up to this point since the strings I'm searching for > have all been static. I'm storing the strings to search for and replace > with in a table so if something changes they just adjust the strings in the > table and away we go. > > Now we have a change where the portion of the file I need to change includes > a date which changes with each new file. Now, I could have the client > change the date in the searchfor string each time they run the program for a > new file but it would be really nice if I could have a function search for > "N1~GA~????????" (where the ?'s represent a date in yyyymmdd format)in this > string "REF~03~!N1~GA~20020414" and return a 9. > > Clear as mud? > > Rusty > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike and Doris Manning [mailto:mikedorism at ntelos.net] > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 10:20 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters > > > How about InStr function? > > Doris Manning > Database Administrator > Hargrove Inc. > www.hargroveinc.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 10:57 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters > > > Does anyone have any code that will search a string variable for a string > that includes wildcard characters and returns the location? > > ie > strVariable="This is a test" > search strVariable for "te??" returns 11 > > > Rusty > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com Mon Apr 14 13:15:17 2003 From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com (rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 13:15:17 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters Message-ID: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A4EBC68@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net> This is an invoice date which is going to be different each time the process is run. -----Original Message----- From: Don Elliker [mailto:delliker at hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 11:59 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters The date changes from what to what? Is it incremental in any way? If yes, then a loop oughta do it. Otherwise if it stays the same, what is the purpose of the search? Hope I'm not being dense. _d "Things are only free to the extent that you don't pay for them." >From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters >Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 11:00:19 -0500 > >I think if there was a way to incorporate the Like operator with the InStr >function then my problem would be solved. > >Let me explain what I'm doing and maybe someone will have suggestion for a >better way of doing it. > >My client sends a text file of invoices to a Railroad (RR) company. This RR >requires a specific file format for their billing system to import the >invoices. My client has tried working with their accounting software people >to get the format they need but they say they have done what they need to do >so if it requires more coding they will do at a fee of $250 per hour and >quoted 25 hours (great money if you can get it). > >Anyway, I'm taking the text file the accounting software creates which is >close to what is needed, and making the few more changes to it to make it >compatible with the RR company. So far, I've discoved that by searching the >file for certain strings, I can replace that string with something else. >It's been fairly simple up to this point since the strings I'm searching for >have all been static. I'm storing the strings to search for and replace >with in a table so if something changes they just adjust the strings in the >table and away we go. > >Now we have a change where the portion of the file I need to change includes >a date which changes with each new file. Now, I could have the client >change the date in the searchfor string each time they run the program for a >new file but it would be really nice if I could have a function search for >"N1~GA~????????" (where the ?'s represent a date in yyyymmdd format)in this >string "REF~03~!N1~GA~20020414" and return a 9. > >Clear as mud? > >Rusty > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mike and Doris Manning [mailto:mikedorism at ntelos.net] >Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 10:20 AM >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters > > >How about InStr function? > >Doris Manning >Database Administrator >Hargrove Inc. >www.hargroveinc.com > > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of >rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com >Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 10:57 AM >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >Subject: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters > > >Does anyone have any code that will search a string variable for a string >that includes wildcard characters and returns the location? > >ie >strVariable="This is a test" >search strVariable for "te??" returns 11 > > >Rusty > >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _____ MSN 8 helps ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES. 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Lembit Lembit Soobik ----- Original Message ----- From: William Hindman To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 1:10 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] RE: New web site Group ...just wanted to add my own personal ...and dba ...view on Kathryn's (Kati to me) contributions to the origination and maintenance of AccessD's (now dba) website ...over a period exceeding the past two years while many web site gurus and volunteers came and went from the ranks of those who were willing to donate their time and skills to building and maintaining the dba website, Kati was the one constant in the equation ...she began knowing nothing whatsoever about html, but with a willingness and determination that both outlasted and in many, many instances outshone that of many among us with far more skills and experience ...the very existence of the dba website owes itself, in my not so humble opinion ...and certain knowledge ...to Kati's unfailing dedication to doing whatever it took no matter the circumstances or criticism that came her way ...regardless of the many and inevitable differences of opinion we had over that time, Kati was the one who was always there when the chips were down. ...this is not intended as a paean but I couldn't let the transfer of the dba site maintenance duties and responsibilities to pass quietly by without adding my view of the contributions of one who was there at its conception and stayed with it through some very hard times ...Kati deserves that and much more. ...and congratulations Jim, the new site design is a big step toward the highly professional website we had in mind when dba started down this road so long ago ...bet you had no idea of the barrel of monkeys you were jumping into when you first volunteered :))) William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 3:21 PM Subject: [AccessD] RE: New web site Hi all: The DataBase Advisors is moving to a new web site format. Kathryn Bassett is stepping aside as the original site Web Master and the gap is being filled by myself, Jim Lawrence. I would like to personally thank her for her years of hard work and dedication and I am sure she will continue to provide advisory and specific project support. A group of other list members will also be assisting in providing project and site support. Their names will be listed on the new site. The new site will be in place as of this weekend. If you have any questions or comments please address them to this list. 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URL: From bchacc at san.rr.com Mon Apr 14 13:40:03 2003 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 11:40:03 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Can User Select Zoom Level on Preview? References: Message-ID: <00a601c302b5$43758fe0$6501a8c0@HAL9002> Logical, but illegal. :) Rocky ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Elliker To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Can User Select Zoom Level on Preview? Can you add em together? Like a 50 + a 25 + a10 WAG... _d "Things are only free to the extent that you don't pay for them." >From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >To: >Subject: [AccessD] Can User Select Zoom Level on Preview? >Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 10:58:24 -0700 > >Dear List: > >I have a user who wants to be able to select a non-standard zoom level (85%) for his report previews. There are constants in RunCommand (acCmdZoomnn) for 10, 25, 50, 75 and 100 per cent. Is there a way to set 85% or some other value? > >MTIA, > >Rocky Smolin >Beach Access Software >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ MSN 8 helps ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES. Get 2 months FREE*. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com Mon Apr 14 13:46:05 2003 From: jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com (jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 13:46:05 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Can User Select Zoom Level on Preview? Message-ID: I have set up a custom toolbar for reports that includes the zoom buttons. You might want to try this. -Jeff "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" Sent by: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 04/14/2003 01:40 PM Please respond to accessd To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com cc: Subject: Re: [AccessD] Can User Select Zoom Level on Preview? Logical, but illegal. :) Rocky ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Elliker To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Can User Select Zoom Level on Preview? Can you add em together? Like a 50 + a 25 + a10 WAG... _d "Things are only free to the extent that you don't pay for them." >From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >To: >Subject: [AccessD] Can User Select Zoom Level on Preview? >Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 10:58:24 -0700 > >Dear List: > >I have a user who wants to be able to select a non-standard zoom level (85%) for his report previews. There are constants in RunCommand (acCmdZoomnn) for 10, 25, 50, 75 and 100 per cent. Is there a way to set 85% or some other value? > >MTIA, > >Rocky Smolin >Beach Access Software >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com MSN 8 helps ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES. Get 2 months FREE*. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 2247 bytes Desc: not available URL: From scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com Mon Apr 14 14:14:03 2003 From: scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com (Steve Capistrant) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 14:14:03 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Pushing to Outlook In-Reply-To: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A4EBC66@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net> Message-ID: Hi folks. Looking for tips on how to push contact info from Access into Outlook. What are the main elements in the Outlook object model that let me add and delete contact items from VBA in Access? (I don't currently need the ability to edit existing items -- too messy to think about for Monday). The bottom line task: delete all existing contact info from Outlook and repopulate with the fresh info from an Access db. But, the user also needs to have a way to independently manage their PERSONAL contacts without getting overwritten. Separate pst files, I imagine? Thank you.... Steve Capistrant Symphony Information Services 212 3rd Avenue North Minneapolis, MN 55401 www.symphonyinfo.com Phone: 612-333-1311 Fax: 612-333-5572 Email: scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com From bchacc at san.rr.com Mon Apr 14 14:14:15 2003 From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 12:14:15 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Can User Select Zoom Level on Preview? References: Message-ID: <00ea01c302ba$0ab6ca70$6501a8c0@HAL9002> Jeffrey: Well once they're in preview mode they have the zoom tool available. But it is a PITA to zoom to the desired magnification every time they preview a report. So I'm trying to find a way to do that programmatically for them. Rocky ----- Original Message ----- From: jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Can User Select Zoom Level on Preview? I have set up a custom toolbar for reports that includes the zoom buttons. You might want to try this. -Jeff "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" Sent by: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 04/14/2003 01:40 PM Please respond to accessd To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com cc: Subject: Re: [AccessD] Can User Select Zoom Level on Preview? Logical, but illegal. :) Rocky ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Elliker To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Can User Select Zoom Level on Preview? Can you add em together? Like a 50 + a 25 + a10 WAG... _d "Things are only free to the extent that you don't pay for them." >From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >To: >Subject: [AccessD] Can User Select Zoom Level on Preview? >Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 10:58:24 -0700 > >Dear List: > >I have a user who wants to be able to select a non-standard zoom level (85%) for his report previews. There are constants in RunCommand (acCmdZoomnn) for 10, 25, 50, 75 and 100 per cent. Is there a way to set 85% or some other value? > >MTIA, > >Rocky Smolin >Beach Access Software >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ MSN 8 helps ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES. 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Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 2247 bytes Desc: not available URL: From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Mon Apr 14 14:18:14 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 14:18:14 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Pushing to Outlook Message-ID: Steve, Helen Feddema has a code sample at her site http://www.helenfeddema.com/CodeSamples.htm that should do what you want. Scroll down to the Access to Outlook section. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Steve Capistrant [mailto:scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com] Sent: Monday 2003 Apr 14 14:14 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Pushing to Outlook Hi folks. Looking for tips on how to push contact info from Access into Outlook. What are the main elements in the Outlook object model that let me add and delete contact items from VBA in Access? (I don't currently need the ability to edit existing items -- too messy to think about for Monday). The bottom line task: delete all existing contact info from Outlook and repopulate with the fresh info from an Access db. But, the user also needs to have a way to independently manage their PERSONAL contacts without getting overwritten. Separate pst files, I imagine? Thank you.... Steve Capistrant Symphony Information Services 212 3rd Avenue North Minneapolis, MN 55401 www.symphonyinfo.com Phone: 612-333-1311 Fax: 612-333-5572 Email: scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com From mitsules_ms at nns.com Mon Apr 14 14:21:35 2003 From: mitsules_ms at nns.com (Mitsules, Mark) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 15:21:35 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Pushing to Outlook Message-ID: Steve, I believe what you are looking for falls into the following classes in the Outlook object model: AddressEntries, AddressEntry, AddressList, AddressLists Mark -----Original Message----- From: Steve Capistrant [mailto:scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com] Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 3:14 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Pushing to Outlook Hi folks. Looking for tips on how to push contact info from Access into Outlook. What are the main elements in the Outlook object model that let me add and delete contact items from VBA in Access? (I don't currently need the ability to edit existing items -- too messy to think about for Monday). The bottom line task: delete all existing contact info from Outlook and repopulate with the fresh info from an Access db. But, the user also needs to have a way to independently manage their PERSONAL contacts without getting overwritten. Separate pst files, I imagine? Thank you.... Steve Capistrant Symphony Information Services 212 3rd Avenue North Minneapolis, MN 55401 www.symphonyinfo.com Phone: 612-333-1311 Fax: 612-333-5572 Email: scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Mon Apr 14 14:44:46 2003 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 12:44:46 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs References: <5F21A4E8B8DD734992EF9E70AC9D3064128534@mail2.wrsystems.com> Message-ID: <3E9B0FAD.9090003@shaw.ca> One other thing to look at is PM Project Management Certifications generally either/or an exam and 4500 - 7500 hours experience. see either http://www.comptia.org or http://www.pmi.org Just read an article on it March 17 issue of eweek mag. Randall Anthony wrote: > Thanks everybody for your input, I've decided to pass on that program > for now, I'm going to be in hot pursuit of the new MSD cert or similar > first, get my tech affairs in order. I think I'll shoot for the MM in > the next couple of years. Thanks again!! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hale, Jim [mailto:jim.hale at fleetpride.com] > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 6:59 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs > > You have a point. If the technology guy really is good he should > never get caught. > Jim H > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 5:24 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs > > On the other hand, which is more likely to wind up in jail, > the manager or the technical guy? > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hale, Jim [mailto:jim.hale at fleetpride.com] > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 2:14 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs > > Exactly! Think of your competitive advantage compared to > other managers if you actually understand the technical > aspect of what you are managing. They don't, you do, you > win. The other part of the equation IMHO is that purely > technical guys salary levels generally cap out below 6 > figures. Good managers have significant growth potential > in both $$ and in terms of career growth. Of course it is > like anything else in life-- you have to enjoy it if you > expect to excel. Few are more miserable than a "manager" > who has risen to his "Peter principle" level. > Jim H > > [Hale, Jim] -----Original Message----- > From: Randall Anthony [mailto:ranthony at wrsystems.com] > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 2:56 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters Programs > > Thanks for that tidbit, Charles. I guess I'm just > looking to be identified as a senior technical guy, > but not a manager. I already work for management > types who create my project schedules that couldn't > create a form with one table using the Access wizard! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 3:30 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters > Programs > > Randy, > > Now that you state your intention is to work > toward senior management, I can state that an MBA > is almost a prerequisite these days to reach that > goal. Also, experience int the operations side of > an organization always helps. With your 10+ years > on the technical side with an MIS, you should > consider the information intensive industries as > your target organizations since that gives you 10 > years experience in the operational side already. > > > Charles Wortz > Software Development Division > Texas Education Agency > 1701 N. Congress Ave > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > 512-463-9493 > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > -----Original Message----- > From: Randall Anthony [mailto:ranthony at wrsystems.com] > Sent: Friday 2003 Apr 11 14:18 > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters > Programs > Importance: Low > > Thanks Jim, I've been mulling over this for quite > a bit now. That's exactly what my intent was, but > it seems everyone I've spoken/wrote to in the tech > side is saying ROI is nil. The minute someone > sees MBA or MM it's "oh, this guys on the > management track, we want somebody technical". > With my MIS degree, I pretty much do the > translator/referee thing quite a bit. Right now > it's running about 8 to 1, "get some certs and > experience in those cert skills, you don't need > more education". Thanks again for your advice. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hale, Jim [mailto:jim.hale at fleetpride.com] > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 2:57 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters > Programs > > I certainly agree with Charles "if you want to > stay on the technical side of the business." > However, if you aspire to management and > eventually senior management positions the > combination of business knowledge and > technical expertise is relatively rare and > therefore can give you a decided edge (not to > mention more $$). An MBA, or any degree for > that matter, does not by itself grant business > smarts but can certainly point you in the > right direction. > > For example, the ability to bridge the gap as > "translator" and "referee" between IT and > accounting staffs by possessing in depth > technical and business knowledge of both camps > can make you close to indispensable in some > companies ;-). (Indispensable also=$$). BTW, > Translator/referee/system designer/curmudgeon > is essentially my current job description > although I arrived here bassackwards from your > proposed path. (I earned my MBA/CPA first and > became CFO of a NY stock exchange company > before switching to the database/financial > reporting side because it is definitely more > fun). Good luck! > > Jim Hale > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wortz, Charles > [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 12:12 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters > Programs > > > Randy, > > As an old professor my opinion is an MBA won't > hurt you, but it probably > will not help you if you want to stay on the > technical side of the > business. With 10+ years experience your > resume and your good > references should get you an interview with > any place worth working. > All your references will say you walk on > water, won't they? > > Charles Wortz > Software Development Division > Texas Education Agency > 1701 N. Congress Ave > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > 512-463-9493 > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Randall Anthony > [mailto:ranthony at wrsystems.com] > Sent: Friday 2003 Apr 11 12:01 > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] OT: Accelerated Masters > Programs > > Hi y'all. I'm looking for > opinions/suggestions. I'm looking into an > accelerated Master's degree from Cambridge > College (I'm also looking > into Univ of Phoenix online program). It's an > MBA on tech steroids, so > to speak. Besides proj mgt, etc., I'll learn > Oracle 9i, Java, .net, OOP, > XML, HTML, et al. Has any one gone through > this? Better yet, any of > the mgt types here have an opinion on the > impact it would have on down > the road? I've got 10+ years in da business, > mainly doing > DBA/development in Access, SQL and .ASP. Your > opinions are definitely > wanted. Thanks! > > Randy @ ext. 473 > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From delliker at hotmail.com Mon Apr 14 15:17:14 2003 From: delliker at hotmail.com (Don Elliker) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 16:17:14 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Can User Select Zoom Level on Preview? Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dwaters at usinternet.com Mon Apr 14 16:26:25 2003 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 16:26:25 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Error: -2147352567 ?? Message-ID: <000901c302cc$8407bf30$de1811d8@DanWaters> The error description is 'Update or CancelUpdate without AddNew or Edit.' I've checked for this problem and can't find it. This occurs repeatably (at least once a day) in the after update event of a several different comboboxes on a subform (so most of the time it doesn't happen). The subform is bound to a table that is on the many side of a one to many relationship with the table that the main form is bound to. This is in an AXP split database, FE and BE are both mdb's. The comboboxes use snapshot queries as their row source. Has anyone seen a negative error number like this? I couldn't find it on the MSKB. Dan Waters From patrickh at parkindustries.com Mon Apr 14 16:49:36 2003 From: patrickh at parkindustries.com (Patrick Hollermann) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 16:49:36 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Visual Basic 6 setup toolkit error with packaging wizard from Dev XP Message-ID: Hello List, I have an error that is giving me fits. I have a package made using MS development package wizard for XP and it has worked well for me for the last year. I redistributed and access runtime package (FE) that looks at a SQL (BE) within a confined office complex for 5 revisions. This has worked fine, until now. The process of putting a package together on a server on the network and getting access to it from the users work station appears to work fine. We are running Office XP with SP3 installed on all machines. We have a combination of windows 2000 and NT workstations at the users desks. Here is the process I follow when installing on a users workstation. As I run the install process it starts running, opens, looks for available space, and on the NT workstations it then starts installing the Access Runtime files and then the 6mb adp file. On some of the 2000 workstations the install also runs with no trouble. On some of the 2000 workstations I get the following error in a Visual Basic 6.0 Setup Toolkit pop up dialog box: "The Office System Pack cannot be installed in this system because it requires Windows NT4.0 Service Pack 6 or later". After this error the installation terminates and says unsuccessful. Has anyone seen this error before? Any places to look on the development machine for something that I might have changed that is causing this problem? As always any help is welcome. Thank you all for your help and or suggestions. P.S. management won't spring for a different packaging software like Sage.. I asked... Patrick L. Hollermann Park Industries, Inc. 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The comboboxes use > snapshot queries as their row source. > > Has anyone seen a negative error number like this? I couldn't find it > on the MSKB. > > Dan Waters I could get some information from ADO help files that might be useful. I will send the page offline in PDF format (85Kb). HTH, -- ************************************** * Carlos Alberto Alves * * Child Neurologist * * Systems Analyst/Programmer * * Rio de Janeiro, Brazil * * mailto:caa at highway.com.br * * http://igspot.ig.com.br/forefront/ * ************************************** From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Mon Apr 14 18:59:02 2003 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 16:59:02 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters References: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A4EBC67@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net> Message-ID: <3E9B4B46.20604@shaw.ca> How about Dim strTest As String idate = #12/24/2003# strTest = "REF~03~!N1~GA~" & Format(idate, "yyyymmddhhmmss") Debug.Print strTest rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com wrote: >The ninth position in the string being searched. That's where the string >being looked for starts. > >-----Original Message----- >From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] >Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 11:51 AM >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters > > >"and return a 9" > >...that's about as close to mud as you can get ...how did you arrive at the >"9"? :( > >William Hindman >"All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund >Burke > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 12:00 PM >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters > > > > >>I think if there was a way to incorporate the Like operator with the InStr >>function then my problem would be solved. >> >>Let me explain what I'm doing and maybe someone will have suggestion for a >>better way of doing it. >> >>My client sends a text file of invoices to a Railroad (RR) company. This >> >> >RR > > >>requires a specific file format for their billing system to import the >>invoices. My client has tried working with their accounting software >> >> >people > > >>to get the format they need but they say they have done what they need to >> >> >do > > >>so if it requires more coding they will do at a fee of $250 per hour and >>quoted 25 hours (great money if you can get it). >> >>Anyway, I'm taking the text file the accounting software creates which is >>close to what is needed, and making the few more changes to it to make it >>compatible with the RR company. So far, I've discoved that by searching >> >> >the > > >>file for certain strings, I can replace that string with something else. >>It's been fairly simple up to this point since the strings I'm searching >> >> >for > > >>have all been static. I'm storing the strings to search for and replace >>with in a table so if something changes they just adjust the strings in >> >> >the > > >>table and away we go. >> >>Now we have a change where the portion of the file I need to change >> >> >includes > > >>a date which changes with each new file. Now, I could have the client >>change the date in the searchfor string each time they run the program for >> >> >a > > >>new file but it would be really nice if I could have a function search for >>"N1~GA~????????" (where the ?'s represent a date in yyyymmdd format)in >> >> >this > > >>string "REF~03~!N1~GA~20020414" and return a 9. >> >>Clear as mud? >> >>Rusty >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Mike and Doris Manning [mailto:mikedorism at ntelos.net] >>Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 10:20 AM >>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters >> >> >>How about InStr function? >> >>Doris Manning >>Database Administrator >>Hargrove Inc. >>www.hargroveinc.com >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of >>rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com >>Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 10:57 AM >>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >>Subject: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters >> >> >>Does anyone have any code that will search a string variable for a string >>that includes wildcard characters and returns the location? >> >>ie >>strVariable="This is a test" >>search strVariable for "te??" returns 11 >> >> >>Rusty >> >>_______________________________________________ >>AccessD mailing list >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >>_______________________________________________ >>AccessD mailing list >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>_______________________________________________ >>AccessD mailing list >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> > > >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk Tue Apr 15 02:10:19 2003 From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 08:10:19 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Remove Security Message-ID: <52339DF8DCA2A544AF660C8217EB7DCD0227F141@MAILGATE.bury.gov.uk> Been away a day or two - its sorted now - thanks for all your contributions Richard > -----Original Message----- > From: Robin Lawrence [SMTP:rgilimited at btconnect.com] > Sent: 11 April 2003 11:05 > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remove Security > > Richard, > The easiest way is to import everything into a new database > Rgds > Robin Lawrence > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Griffiths, > Richard > Sent: 11 April 2003 10:40 > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remove Security > > > As I just found out the clearing of the Admin password simply removes > the > prompt to enter user/password when Access loads - it does not remove > security - (its seems you are 'logged on' as the User (user) which in my > app > did not have any permissions - to get the password back and the prompt > you > need persmission to do so, which I no longer have - I had to restore my > mdw > file to get back to where I was - anyway I think I'm going to abandon > this > one and revisit when my head clears. > Richard > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Roz Clarke [SMTP:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] > > Sent: 11 April 2003 10:26 > > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remove Security > > > > I'm a bit rusty on Access security, but as I recall, it depends on > what > > sort > > of security was set up. By default, with a new install of Access > security > > is > > not activated. Once it is activated however, if any user accounts bar > the > > admin account have been created, you have to concern yourself with > > workgroups. The A97 Help file is fairly good on the subject. > > > > Roz > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] > > Sent: 11 April 2003 10:10 > > To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com' > > Subject: [AccessD] Remove Security > > > > > > Hi > > > > A97 > > > > Do i simply remove/clear the admin password to remove access internal > > security? If not what else is required? > > > > Thanks > > > > Richard > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -- > > -- > > ---------------------------------------- > > This e-mail, together with any files transmitted with it, is > confidential > > and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is > addressed. > > If you are not the intended recipient, or the person responsible for > > delivering to the intended recipient, be advised that you have > received > > this > > e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing > or > > copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited without liability on our > > part. > > > > By responding to this e-mail it is accepted that your response > > may be the subject of recording/monitoring to ensure compliance > > with the Council's ICT Security Policy > > > > If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender. > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------------------------------------------- > This e-mail, together with any files transmitted with it, is > confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to > whom it is addressed. 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If you are not the intended recipient, or the person responsible for delivering to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited without liability on our part. By responding to this e-mail it is accepted that your response may be the subject of recording/monitoring to ensure compliance with the Council?s ICT Security Policy If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender. From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Tue Apr 15 05:45:27 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 06:45:27 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Error: -2147352567 ?? References: <000901c302cc$8407bf30$de1811d8@DanWaters> Message-ID: <006801c3033c$209c9680$6101a8c0@amd2k512> ...afaik you can't normally update bound records from snapshot recordsets ...HTH :) William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Waters" To: "'AccessD at databaseadvisors. Com'" Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 5:26 PM Subject: [AccessD] Error: -2147352567 ?? > The error description is 'Update or CancelUpdate without AddNew or > Edit.' > > I've checked for this problem and can't find it. This occurs repeatably > (at least once a day) in the after update event of a several different > comboboxes on a subform (so most of the time it doesn't happen). The > subform is bound to a table that is on the many side of a one to many > relationship with the table that the main form is bound to. This is in > an AXP split database, FE and BE are both mdb's. The comboboxes use > snapshot queries as their row source. > > Has anyone seen a negative error number like this? I couldn't find it > on the MSKB. > > Dan Waters > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From greggs at msn.com Tue Apr 15 06:20:30 2003 From: greggs at msn.com (gregg steinbrenner) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 06:20:30 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Is there any way to link BE tables on a web server to a FE on a local system? I see options for FTP connections in the link table manager but I have not been able to get them to work. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com Tue Apr 15 06:30:06 2003 From: jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 07:30:06 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It is my experience that Access doesn't handles delays in getting data very well. I doubt seriously this will ever work. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of gregg steinbrenner Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 7:21 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet Is there any way to link BE tables on a web server to a FE on a local system? I see options for FTP connections in the link table manager but I have not been able to get them to work. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Get your copy today at http://www.eMailBoss.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paul.hartland at fsmail.net Tue Apr 15 06:56:45 2003 From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 11:56:45 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] Gaps in Address Query Message-ID: <20030415115645.EIN18722.fep06-svc.ttys.com@localhost> To all, I posted this a couple of days ago, and had a few responses to help me along the way (Thanks Very Much), however I have the following inside a query : AddressDetail: [Name] & Chr(13) & Chr(10)+IIf(IsNull([addrs1]),"",[addrs1]+Chr(13)+Chr(10))+IIf(IsNull([addrs2]),"",[addrs2]+Chr(13)+Chr(10))+IIf(IsNull([town]),"",[town]+Chr(13)+Chr(10))+IIf(IsNull([county]),"",[county]+Chr(13)+Chr(10))+[postcode] Basically, if a part of the address line is null then I want to shift the address up, if not put the field in and move onto the next line. The query runs ok, however there are still line gaps in the address where the field is blank. I have tried various combinations including changing the + to & and only using + for the chr(13)+chr(10), and the query still comes out the same. Anyone any ideas as to why this is happening ? Paul Hartland __________________________________________________________________________ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application. From Jdemarco at hshhp.org Tue Apr 15 06:57:35 2003 From: Jdemarco at hshhp.org (Jim DeMarco) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 07:57:35 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Salary Summary Message-ID: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F99D8595B@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com> A short while back there was a thread on salaries. 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Thank You". *********************************************************************************** From mikedorism at ntelos.net Tue Apr 15 07:37:57 2003 From: mikedorism at ntelos.net (Mike and Doris Manning) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 08:37:57 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Error: -2147352567 ?? In-Reply-To: <000901c302cc$8407bf30$de1811d8@DanWaters> Message-ID: <000001c3034b$dc281230$9c360cd8@hargrove.internal> Two sources for the negative numbers... Translating Automation Errors for VB/VBA (Q186063) Underlying OLE and OLEDB Provider Errors Exposed via ADO (Q168354) Doris Manning Database Administrator Hargrove Inc. www.hargroveinc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 5:26 PM To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors. Com' Subject: [AccessD] Error: -2147352567 ?? The error description is 'Update or CancelUpdate without AddNew or Edit.' I've checked for this problem and can't find it. This occurs repeatably (at least once a day) in the after update event of a several different comboboxes on a subform (so most of the time it doesn't happen). The subform is bound to a table that is on the many side of a one to many relationship with the table that the main form is bound to. This is in an AXP split database, FE and BE are both mdb's. The comboboxes use snapshot queries as their row source. Has anyone seen a negative error number like this? I couldn't find it on the MSKB. Dan Waters _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Tue Apr 15 07:40:26 2003 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 22:40:26 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Gaps in Address Query In-Reply-To: <20030415115645.EIN18722.fep06-svc.ttys.com@localhost> Message-ID: <3E9C8A5A.13281.31CA628@localhost> On 15 Apr 2003 at 11:56, paul.hartland at fsmail.net wrote: > > AddressDetail: [Name] & Chr(13) & > Chr(10)+IIf(IsNull([addrs1]),"",[addrs1]+Chr(13)+Chr(10))+IIf(IsNull([ > addrs2]),"",[addrs2]+Chr(13)+Chr(10))+IIf(IsNull([town]),"",[town]+Chr > (13)+Chr(10))+IIf(IsNull([county]),"",[county]+Chr(13)+Chr(10))+[postc > ode] > > Basically, if a part of the address line is null then I want to shift > the address up, if not put the field in and move onto the next line. > The query runs ok, however there are still line gaps in the address > where the field is blank. I have tried various combinations including > changing the + to & and only using + for the chr(13)+chr(10), and the > query still comes out the same. I would suspect that some of the fields contain empty strings rather than Nulls. I've seen this quite often happening during data entry/editing. An empty string ("") is not the same as a Null. Try IIf(NZ([addrs1],"") = ,"",[addrs1]+Chr(13)+Chr(10)) This will convert all Nulls to empty strings so you will catch both. -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk Tue Apr 15 07:40:35 2003 From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 13:40:35 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C83188039567AA@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk> Hi all Does anyone know where there is any documentation on opening multiple instances of a form? I can't find anything in the help file or on MSDN. TIA Roz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Tue Apr 15 07:42:11 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 07:42:11 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Gaps in Address Query Message-ID: Paul, The reason is because you are creating "" strings instead of leaving the Nulls in there. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net [mailto:paul.hartland at fsmail.net] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 15 06:57 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Gaps in Address Query To all, I posted this a couple of days ago, and had a few responses to help me along the way (Thanks Very Much), however I have the following inside a query : AddressDetail: [Name] & Chr(13) & Chr(10)+IIf(IsNull([addrs1]),"",[addrs1]+Chr(13)+Chr(10))+IIf(IsNull([ad drs2]),"",[addrs2]+Chr(13)+Chr(10))+IIf(IsNull([town]),"",[town]+Chr(13) +Chr(10))+IIf(IsNull([county]),"",[county]+Chr(13)+Chr(10))+[postcode] Basically, if a part of the address line is null then I want to shift the address up, if not put the field in and move onto the next line. The query runs ok, however there are still line gaps in the address where the field is blank. I have tried various combinations including changing the + to & and only using + for the chr(13)+chr(10), and the query still comes out the same. Anyone any ideas as to why this is happening ? Paul Hartland From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Tue Apr 15 07:47:22 2003 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 22:47:22 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Gaps in Address Query In-Reply-To: <11415105041040212683d0567@global.net.pg> References: <20030415115645.EIN18722.fep06-svc.ttys.com@localhost> Message-ID: <3E9C8BFA.22569.322FF45@localhost> On 15 Apr 2003 at 22:40, Stuart McLachlan wrote: > > Try IIf(NZ([addrs1],"") = ,"",[addrs1]+Chr(13)+Chr(10)) > Oops, missed a set of quotes: Try IIf(NZ([addrs1],"") = "" ,"",[addrs1]+Chr(13)+Chr(10)) -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. From paul.hartland at fsmail.net Tue Apr 15 07:54:34 2003 From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 12:54:34 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] Gaps in Address Query Message-ID: <20030415125434.SQSF28680.fep03-svc.ttys.com@localhost> Thanks for everyone's help (Yet Again), works 100% now..... Paul Hartland From: "Stuart McLachlan" Date: Tue 15/Apr/2003 12:47 GMT To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com, , accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Gaps in Address Query On 15 Apr 2003 at 22:40, Stuart McLachlan wrote: > > Try IIf(NZ([addrs1],"") = ,"",[addrs1]+Chr(13)+Chr(10)) > Oops, missed a set of quotes: Try IIf(NZ([addrs1],"") = "" ,"",[addrs1]+Chr(13)+Chr(10)) -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com __________________________________________________________________________ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application. From nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us Tue Apr 15 08:01:16 2003 From: nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us (Neal Kling) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 09:01:16 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Message-ID: <0EAA9F4906BA554FA26E6F9F2C540302025676@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us> I adapted code from ADH that worked well. Basically you declare a form variable as Form_MyForm and work with it. They use a collection to hold pointers to the instances of a form and code to add and remove items from the collection. The one hitch that I quickly hit was that you can't reference your form by name, in other words you can't use Forms!MyForm. If you don't have ADH I could probably put something together for you. Neal Kling Lotus, isn't that some kind of fancy flower? -----Original Message----- From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 8:41 AM To: AccessD (AccessD at databaseadvisors.com) Subject: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Hi all Does anyone know where there is any documentation on opening multiple instances of a form? I can't find anything in the help file or on MSDN. TIA Roz From pctech at mybellybutton.com Tue Apr 15 08:06:55 2003 From: pctech at mybellybutton.com (Frank Tanner III) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 06:06:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [AccessD] Reports Question Message-ID: <20030415130655.9798.qmail@web13404.mail.yahoo.com> I an writing a report that I want to color the detail line a different color based upon an "option" checkbox in a form. Basically, if a box is checked AND the criteria that the checkbox represents is present in the record, it changes the color of that line in the details. For instance. If the checkbox is "flag toll-free numbers" and the record being displayed in the details contains "800" "888" "866" or "877" it will color the record green. How can I do this? I actually have several different check boxes with different criteria, but I'd imagine once one is figured out, it will work the same for all of them. Thank you for your assistance. From scott.marcus at ae.ge.com Tue Apr 15 08:12:45 2003 From: scott.marcus at ae.ge.com (Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting)) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 09:12:45 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Reports Question Message-ID: <768A0EA6FF8CB34FA522978966E5D52E559D71@bwam02msx.ae.ge.com> Frank, The way I do this is to make a color table that stores an image of that color and then lookup this image based on the criteria you mentioned. You can then place a control on the continuous form that displays this image (you can stretch it to fit and send it to the back to make it cover the entire background). Scott -----Original Message----- From: Frank Tanner III [mailto:pctech at mybellybutton.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 9:07 AM To: Database Advisors Subject: [AccessD] Reports Question I an writing a report that I want to color the detail line a different color based upon an "option" checkbox in a form. Basically, if a box is checked AND the criteria that the checkbox represents is present in the record, it changes the color of that line in the details. For instance. If the checkbox is "flag toll-free numbers" and the record being displayed in the details contains "800" "888" "866" or "877" it will color the record green. How can I do this? I actually have several different check boxes with different criteria, but I'd imagine once one is figured out, it will work the same for all of them. Thank you for your assistance. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk Tue Apr 15 08:17:51 2003 From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 14:17:51 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C83188039567AB@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk> Thanks Neal. I have ADH 97. I'll try and wrestle it off my colleague!! -----Original Message----- From: Neal Kling [mailto:nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us] Sent: 15-Apr-2003 14:01 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) I adapted code from ADH that worked well. Basically you declare a form variable as Form_MyForm and work with it. They use a collection to hold pointers to the instances of a form and code to add and remove items from the collection. The one hitch that I quickly hit was that you can't reference your form by name, in other words you can't use Forms!MyForm. If you don't have ADH I could probably put something together for you. Neal Kling Lotus, isn't that some kind of fancy flower? -----Original Message----- From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 8:41 AM To: AccessD (AccessD at databaseadvisors.com) Subject: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Hi all Does anyone know where there is any documentation on opening multiple instances of a form? I can't find anything in the help file or on MSDN. TIA Roz _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Tue Apr 15 08:21:29 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 08:21:29 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Reports Question Message-ID: Frank, If you have a 21st Century version of Access, then use Conditional Formatting. If you have a 20th Century version of Access look in the archives for workarounds. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Frank Tanner III [mailto:pctech at mybellybutton.com] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 15 08:07 To: Database Advisors Subject: [AccessD] Reports Question I an writing a report that I want to color the detail line a different color based upon an "option" checkbox in a form. Basically, if a box is checked AND the criteria that the checkbox represents is present in the record, it changes the color of that line in the details. For instance. If the checkbox is "flag toll-free numbers" and the record being displayed in the details contains "800" "888" "866" or "877" it will color the record green. How can I do this? I actually have several different check boxes with different criteria, but I'd imagine once one is figured out, it will work the same for all of them. From pctech at mybellybutton.com Tue Apr 15 08:27:55 2003 From: pctech at mybellybutton.com (Frank Tanner III) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 06:27:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [AccessD] Reports Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030415132755.61600.qmail@web13405.mail.yahoo.com> >From what I can tell, the conditional formatting only works with the field of the record detail that it is applied to. I need it to be applied to the entire record detail line. I am using MS Access 2000. The checkboxes themselves won't be visible on the report. The detail section has (visible) Date, Time, Call Type, Dialed Number, Extension, and Duration. Based upon the checkboxes (Local Number, Excessive Length, Repetative Call, etc), I want it to color the entire detail line. --- "Wortz, Charles" wrote: > Frank, > > If you have a 21st Century version of Access, then > use Conditional > Formatting. If you have a 20th Century version of > Access look in the > archives for workarounds. > > Charles Wortz > Software Development Division > Texas Education Agency > 1701 N. Congress Ave > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > 512-463-9493 > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Frank Tanner III > [mailto:pctech at mybellybutton.com] > Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 15 08:07 > To: Database Advisors > Subject: [AccessD] Reports Question > > I an writing a report that I want to color the > detail > line a different color based upon an "option" > checkbox > in a form. Basically, if a box is checked AND the > criteria that the checkbox represents is present in > the record, it changes the color of that line in the > details. > > For instance. If the checkbox is "flag toll-free > numbers" and the record being displayed in the > details > contains "800" "888" "866" or "877" it will color > the > record green. > > How can I do this? I actually have several > different > check boxes with different criteria, but I'd imagine > once one is figured out, it will work the same for > all > of them. > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From papparuff at attbi.com Tue Apr 15 08:39:45 2003 From: papparuff at attbi.com (John Ruff) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 06:39:45 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Reports Question In-Reply-To: <768A0EA6FF8CB34FA522978966E5D52E559D71@bwam02msx.ae.ge.com> Message-ID: <011601c30354$7d3c5cf0$6401a8c0@papparuff> You can use the report's OpenArg to determine if the checkbox is checked on the form, then use the Format Event in the report's Detail section to determine if the form's checkbox has been checked, and if it has, change the backcolor of the detail section. So, Code to set the OpenArgs on the form that opens the report. DoCmd.OpenReport"MyReport", OpenArgs:=MyCheckBox In the Format Event of the report's detail section; Private Sub Detail_Format(Cancel As Integer, FormatCount As Integer) If Me.OpenArgs = True Then ' Make the backcolor of the ' Detail Section the color ' green Detail.BackColor = vbGreen End If End Sub John V. Ruff - The Eternal Optimist :-) Always Looking For Contract Opportunities "Commit to the Lord whatever you do, and your plans will succeed." Proverbs 16:3 -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting) Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 6:13 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reports Question Frank, The way I do this is to make a color table that stores an image of that color and then lookup this image based on the criteria you mentioned. You can then place a control on the continuous form that displays this image (you can stretch it to fit and send it to the back to make it cover the entire background). Scott -----Original Message----- From: Frank Tanner III [mailto:pctech at mybellybutton.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 9:07 AM To: Database Advisors Subject: [AccessD] Reports Question I an writing a report that I want to color the detail line a different color based upon an "option" checkbox in a form. Basically, if a box is checked AND the criteria that the checkbox represents is present in the record, it changes the color of that line in the details. For instance. If the checkbox is "flag toll-free numbers" and the record being displayed in the details contains "800" "888" "866" or "877" it will color the record green. How can I do this? I actually have several different check boxes with different criteria, but I'd imagine once one is figured out, it will work the same for all of them. Thank you for your assistance. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Tue Apr 15 08:39:17 2003 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 14:39:17 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Reports Question In-Reply-To: <20030415130655.9798.qmail@web13404.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000a01c30354$695c51e0$b274d0d5@andypc> Frank Your question appears to be about reports. If so you can just write a Case statement in the OnFormat of the Detail which tests any value you like and sets the BackColor property of the detail section. The ADH has an example of doing this type of thing although it's specifically for alternating shaded and clear lines. Principle's the same though. Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Frank Tanner III > Sent: 15 April 2003 14:07 > To: Database Advisors > Subject: [AccessD] Reports Question > > > I an writing a report that I want to color the detail > line a different color based upon an "option" checkbox > in a form. Basically, if a box is checked AND the > criteria that the checkbox represents is present in > the record, it changes the color of that line in the > details. > > For instance. If the checkbox is "flag toll-free > numbers" and the record being displayed in the details > contains "800" "888" "866" or "877" it will color the > record green. > > How can I do this? I actually have several different > check boxes with different criteria, but I'd imagine > once one is figured out, it will work the same for all > of them. > > Thank you for your assistance. > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd > Website: > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From bob at renaissancesiding.com Tue Apr 15 08:46:24 2003 From: bob at renaissancesiding.com (Bob Gajewski) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 09:46:24 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Reports Question Message-ID: <01C30333.E1743290.bob@renaissancesiding.com> Frank You didn't indicate whether you wanted to color the text or the background, so here's a few choices: If you want to color the whole detail section: =========================================== Const lngColorWhite = 16777215 Const lngColorGreen = 32768 Private Sub Detail_Format(Cancel As Integer, FormatCount As Integer) If Left(Me.txtTelNbr,3) = "800" Or _ Left(Me.txtTelNbr,3) = "866" Or _ Left(Me.txtTelNbr,3) = "877" Or _ Left(Me.txtTelNbr,3) = "888" Then Me.Section(0).BackColor = lngColorGreen Else Me.Section(0).BackColor = lngColorWhite End If End Sub =========================================== If you want to place a highlight text box behind any or all of the detail line: Create the unbound text box; make it green (or whatever). =========================================== Private Sub Detail_Print(Cancel As Integer, PrintCount As Integer) Me.txtTelNbrHighlight = "" Me.txtTelNbrHighlight.Visible = False If Left(Me.txtTelNbr,3) = "800" Or _ Left(Me.txtTelNbr,3) = "866" Or _ Left(Me.txtTelNbr,3) = "877" Or _ Left(Me.txtTelNbr,3) = "888" Then Me.txtTelNbrHighlight = " " Me.txtTelNbrHighlight.Visible = True Else Me.txtTelNbrHighlight = "" Me.txtTelNbrHighlight.Visible = False End If End Sub =========================================== If you want to change the color of the actual fields: =========================================== Const lngColorBlack = 0 Const lngColorGreen = 32768 Private Sub Detail_Format(Cancel As Integer, FormatCount As Integer) If Left(Me.txtTelNbr,3) = "800" Or _ Left(Me.txtTelNbr,3) = "866" Or _ Left(Me.txtTelNbr,3) = "877" Or _ Left(Me.txtTelNbr,3) = "888" Then Me.txtTelNbr.ForeColor = lngColorGreen (repeat for each field that you want changed) Else Me.txtTelNbr.ForeColor = lngColorBlack (repeat for each field that you want changed) End If End Sub =========================================== HTH, Bob Gajewski On Tuesday, April 15, 2003 09:07 AM, Frank Tanner III [SMTP:pctech at mybellybutton.com] wrote: > I an writing a report that I want to color the detail > line a different color based upon an "option" checkbox > in a form. Basically, if a box is checked AND the > criteria that the checkbox represents is present in > the record, it changes the color of that line in the > details > > For instance. If the checkbox is "flag toll-free > numbers" and the record being displayed in the details > contains "800" "888" "866" or "877" it will color the > record green > > How can I do this? I actually have several different > check boxes with different criteria, but I'd imagine > once one is figured out, it will work the same for all > of them > > Thank you for your assistance > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk Tue Apr 15 09:09:44 2003 From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 15:09:44 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Setting controls to null (AXP) Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C83188039567AF@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk> Hi again everyone I have a combo box containing staff records, bound on ID field. I want to display all the records even though some of them will be invalid choices, and display an error message giving a reason if the user tries to make an invalid selection and offereing to take certain actions, blah blah. If the user chooses to cancel rather than proceed, I need to then set the combo box back to null. I can't set it to a 0 or a zero length string, it HAS to be a null. How??? Hope someone has the key Roz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.frederick at att.net Wed Apr 16 09:29:52 2003 From: j.frederick at att.net (John Frederick) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 10:29:52 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Good question. I see the FTP options you're referring to in the browse window in Linked Table Manager, but that looks like the general purpose browse. If you have a permanent circuit, you could use a package named Web Drive (commercial for about $50). It maps an FTP site into your machine as a drive letter. You have to set up the connection manually, as I recall. When you refer to it in Windows Explorer, it brings the directory over into a local cache. If you reference to the mdb, it apparently copies the entire mdb into the local cache where you can reference it without network delays. If you change the cached mdb, you either have to manually request that it be paged entirely back to the remote, or that happens when you close Web Drive. I know only of a variety of kludgy partial solutions to this problem. I'll be listening to this thread for some good ideas. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of gregg steinbrenner Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 7:21 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet Is there any way to link BE tables on a web server to a FE on a local system? I see options for FTP connections in the link table manager but I have not been able to get them to work. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bob at renaissancesiding.com Tue Apr 15 09:33:47 2003 From: bob at renaissancesiding.com (Bob Gajewski) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 10:33:47 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Setting controls to null (AXP) Message-ID: <01C3033A.80151E40.bob@renaissancesiding.com> Roz In the BeforeUpdate: ============================== If EverythingLooksGood = True Then ... Else Cancel = True Me.MyComboBox.Value = Null End If ============================== HTH, Bob Gajewski On Tuesday, April 15, 2003 10:10 AM, Roz Clarke [SMTP:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] wrote: > Hi again everyone > > I have a combo box containing staff records, bound on ID field. I want to > display all the records even though some of them will be invalid choices, > and display an error message giving a reason if the user tries to make an > invalid selection and offereing to take certain actions, blah blah. > > If the user chooses to cancel rather than proceed, I need to then set the > combo box back to null. I can't set it to a 0 or a zero length string, it > HAS to be a null. How??? > > Hope someone has the key > > Roz > > > << File: ATT00009.htm >> << File: ATT00010.txt >> From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk Tue Apr 15 09:53:36 2003 From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 15:53:36 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Setting controls to null (AXP) Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C83188039567B1@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk> I thought you couldn't use '= null' ever?! If only I had just tried it... LOL Thanks Bob -----Original Message----- From: Bob Gajewski [mailto:bob at renaissancesiding.com] Sent: 15-Apr-2003 15:34 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Setting controls to null (AXP) Roz In the BeforeUpdate: ============================== If EverythingLooksGood = True Then ... Else Cancel = True Me.MyComboBox.Value = Null End If ============================== HTH, Bob Gajewski On Tuesday, April 15, 2003 10:10 AM, Roz Clarke [SMTP:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] wrote: > Hi again everyone > > I have a combo box containing staff records, bound on ID field. I want > to display all the records even though some of them will be invalid > choices, and display an error message giving a reason if the user > tries to make an invalid selection and offereing to take certain > actions, blah blah. > > If the user chooses to cancel rather than proceed, I need to then set > the combo box back to null. I can't set it to a 0 or a zero length > string, it HAS to be a null. How??? > > Hope someone has the key > > Roz > > > << File: ATT00009.htm >> << File: ATT00010.txt >> _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com Tue Apr 15 10:39:15 2003 From: Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com (Jeff Barrows) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 10:39:15 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Access and VB6 question Message-ID: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE63050032636@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com> I need to be able to open an Access 2k front end from a VB6 application. I want the users to click a button on my VB form and have the code open the Access FE in front of the VB app. Then, when we close the Access app, the VB app is already there. Can anyone help me with this? Jeff Barrows Outbak Technologies, LLC jeff at outbaktech.com From mikedorism at ntelos.net Tue Apr 15 11:06:48 2003 From: mikedorism at ntelos.net (Mike and Doris Manning) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 12:06:48 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Access and VB6 question In-Reply-To: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE63050032636@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com> Message-ID: <000601c30369$09417500$9c360cd8@hargrove.internal> This should work... Pass in the App you want to open and it does the rest. Doris Manning Database Administrator Hargrove Inc. www.hargroveinc.com Public Function feOpenIt(sAppPth As String) Dim sAccess As Variant Dim sCmd As String Dim sCmdC As String Dim Retval As Variant Const Q = """" sAccess = SysCmd(acSysCmdAccessDir) & "MSAccess.exe" sCmd = Q & sAccess & Q & " " & Q & sAppPth & Q 'eg. "c:\program files\microsoft office\office\msaccess.exe" "c:\my prog\myFE.mdb" 'sCmdC = Environ("COMSPEC") 'returns (W9X) command.com path or (WNTX) cmd.com path 'if your system requires it, play with the prev & fol line and 'comment out the one following 'retval = Shell(sCmdC & " /c " & sCmd, vbMaximizedFocus) 'uses full command instruction with /c to run one command, delete msaccess from sCmd Retval = Shell(sCmd, vbMaximizedFocus) End Function -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Barrows Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 11:39 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Access and VB6 question I need to be able to open an Access 2k front end from a VB6 application. I want the users to click a button on my VB form and have the code open the Access FE in front of the VB app. Then, when we close the Access app, the VB app is already there. Can anyone help me with this? Jeff Barrows Outbak Technologies, LLC jeff at outbaktech.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Jdemarco at hshhp.org Tue Apr 15 11:07:26 2003 From: Jdemarco at hshhp.org (Jim DeMarco) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 12:07:26 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Access and VB6 question Message-ID: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F99D85979@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com> *********************************************************************************** "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank You". *********************************************************************************** -------------- next part -------------- Your choice: a) Shell or b) ShellExecute API. Archives are loaded with examples. HTH, Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Barrows [mailto:Jeff at outbaktech.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 11:39 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Access and VB6 question I need to be able to open an Access 2k front end from a VB6 application. I want the users to click a button on my VB form and have the code open the Access FE in front of the VB app. Then, when we close the Access app, the VB app is already there. Can anyone help me with this? Jeff Barrows Outbak Technologies, LLC jeff at outbaktech.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Jdemarco at hshhp.org Tue Apr 15 11:10:10 2003 From: Jdemarco at hshhp.org (Jim DeMarco) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 12:10:10 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] My response became an attachment?? Message-ID: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F99D8597A@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com> My response to post "RE: Access and VB6 question" was posted as an attached text file. Any idea what's causing that (I sent it as the message body). Thanks, Jim DeMarco Director of Product Development HealthSource/Hudson Health Plan *********************************************************************************** "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank You". *********************************************************************************** From bob at renaissancesiding.com Tue Apr 15 11:23:44 2003 From: bob at renaissancesiding.com (Bob Gajewski) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 12:23:44 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] My response became an attachment?? Message-ID: <01C30349.DBD9B600.bob@renaissancesiding.com> Jim If you send emails in other than Plain Text, (such as RTF or HTML), some email programs handle the messages as attachments. Regards, Bob Gajewski On Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:10 PM, Jim DeMarco [SMTP:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] wrote: > My response to post "RE: Access and VB6 question" was posted as an attached text file. Any idea what's causing that (I sent it as the message body) > > Thanks, > > Jim DeMarco > Director of Product Development > HealthSource/Hudson Health Plan > > > > ************************************************************************ *********** > "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank You" > ************************************************************************ *********** > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > From Jdemarco at hshhp.org Tue Apr 15 11:30:37 2003 From: Jdemarco at hshhp.org (Jim DeMarco) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 12:30:37 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] My response became an attachment?? Message-ID: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F99D8597F@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com> This never used to happen is what I meant to say. Could something have happened on our Exchange server? Thanks, Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Bob Gajewski [mailto:bob at renaissancesiding.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:24 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] My response became an attachment?? Jim If you send emails in other than Plain Text, (such as RTF or HTML), some email programs handle the messages as attachments. Regards, Bob Gajewski On Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:10 PM, Jim DeMarco [SMTP:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] wrote: > My response to post "RE: Access and VB6 question" was posted as an attached text file. Any idea what's causing that (I sent it as the message body) > > Thanks, > > Jim DeMarco > Director of Product Development > HealthSource/Hudson Health Plan > > > > ************************************************************************ *********** > "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank You" > ************************************************************************ *********** > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com *********************************************************************************** "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank You". *********************************************************************************** From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Tue Apr 15 11:39:00 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 11:39:00 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] My response became an attachment?? Message-ID: Jim, Try sending your response again as plain text and see what happens. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 15 11:31 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] My response became an attachment?? Importance: Low This never used to happen is what I meant to say. Could something have happened on our Exchange server? Thanks, Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Bob Gajewski [mailto:bob at renaissancesiding.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:24 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] My response became an attachment?? Jim If you send emails in other than Plain Text, (such as RTF or HTML), some email programs handle the messages as attachments. Regards, Bob Gajewski On Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:10 PM, Jim DeMarco [SMTP:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] wrote: > My response to post "RE: Access and VB6 question" was posted as an attached text file. Any idea what's causing that (I sent it as the message body) > > Thanks, > > Jim DeMarco > Director of Product Development > HealthSource/Hudson Health Plan > > > > ************************************************************************ *********** > "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the > named recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank You" > ************************************************************************ *********** > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ************************************************************************ *********** "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank You". ************************************************************************ *********** _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From my.lists at verizon.net Tue Apr 15 11:42:05 2003 From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 09:42:05 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] My response became an attachment?? References: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F99D8597F@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com> Message-ID: <007201c3036d$f30bc7e0$b615010a@FHTAPIA> Gentlemen, this is an attribute of the current mailman software that is used to re-distribute your mail. For highest compliancy try setting your outgoing mail as plain text. -Francisco http://rcm.netfirms.com On Tuesday, April 15, 2003 9:30 AM [GMT-8], Jim DeMarco wrote: : This never used to happen is what I meant to say. Could something : have happened on our Exchange server? : : Thanks, : : Jim DeMarco : : : -----Original Message----- : From: Bob Gajewski [mailto:bob at renaissancesiding.com] : Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:24 PM : To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' : Subject: RE: [AccessD] My response became an attachment?? : : : Jim : : If you send emails in other than Plain Text, (such as RTF or HTML), : some : email programs handle the messages as attachments. : : Regards, : Bob Gajewski : : On Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:10 PM, Jim DeMarco : [SMTP:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] wrote: :: My response to post "RE: Access and VB6 question" was posted as an : attached text file. Any idea what's causing that (I sent it as the : message body) :: :: Thanks, :: :: Jim DeMarco From sgsax at ksu.edu Tue Apr 15 11:44:22 2003 From: sgsax at ksu.edu (Seth Galitzer) Date: 15 Apr 2003 11:44:22 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Access and VB6 question In-Reply-To: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE63050032636@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com> References: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE63050032636@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com> Message-ID: <1050425063.3732.60.camel@sgsax-th4022c> Jeff, This is actually very easy. Just use the Shell() function to open Access with a particular mdb, just like in a shortcut. The execution string would be something like: """C:\Full\Path\To\msaccess.exe"" ""C:\Full\Path\To\YourApp.mdb""" If you want additional commandline flags, jsut add them to the string. If you don't include code in your VB app to close after shelling out, then it will be open when you close the Access app. Seth On Tue, 2003-04-15 at 10:39, Jeff Barrows wrote: > I need to be able to open an Access 2k front end from a VB6 application. I want the users to click a button on my VB form and have the code open the Access FE in front of the VB app. Then, when we close the Access app, the VB app is already there. Can anyone help me with this? > > Jeff Barrows > Outbak Technologies, LLC > jeff at outbaktech.com -- Seth Galitzer sgsax at ksu.edu Computing Specialist http://puma.agron.ksu.edu/~sgsax Dept. of Plant Pathology Kansas State University From reuben at gfconsultants.com Tue Apr 15 11:56:14 2003 From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 11:56:14 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've done it. I'm on DSL. My ISP (and business partner) set up a folder on the server. He gave me the IP address and folder name, login and password. I simply mapped a drive to it like I would any drive. I could then link to the BE. However, the performance was terrible to the point I am now investigating replication over the DSL circuit between here and the ISP and one other office, that is also on the same DSL service, to the ISP. Reuben Cummings Director of Software Development GFC, LLC phone: 812.523.1017 email: reuben at gfconsultants.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John Frederick Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 9:30 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet Good question. I see the FTP options you're referring to in the browse window in Linked Table Manager, but that looks like the general purpose browse. If you have a permanent circuit, you could use a package named Web Drive (commercial for about $50). It maps an FTP site into your machine as a drive letter. You have to set up the connection manually, as I recall. When you refer to it in Windows Explorer, it brings the directory over into a local cache. If you reference to the mdb, it apparently copies the entire mdb into the local cache where you can reference it without network delays. If you change the cached mdb, you either have to manually request that it be paged entirely back to the remote, or that happens when you close Web Drive. I know only of a variety of kludgy partial solutions to this problem. I'll be listening to this thread for some good ideas. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of gregg steinbrenner Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 7:21 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet Is there any way to link BE tables on a web server to a FE on a local system? I see options for FTP connections in the link table manager but I have not been able to get them to work. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com Tue Apr 15 12:07:10 2003 From: jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 13:07:10 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Cool stuff. I have done the drive mapping to a remote folder using vpn before, but never considered linking to a table in a db on the other end. I can see how it would be a bit slow, particularly over DSL. If you use a vpn, there is a TON of added overhead to the data transmitted back and forth John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Reuben Cummings Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:56 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet I've done it. I'm on DSL. My ISP (and business partner) set up a folder on the server. He gave me the IP address and folder name, login and password. I simply mapped a drive to it like I would any drive. I could then link to the BE. However, the performance was terrible to the point I am now investigating replication over the DSL circuit between here and the ISP and one other office, that is also on the same DSL service, to the ISP. Reuben Cummings Director of Software Development GFC, LLC phone: 812.523.1017 email: reuben at gfconsultants.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John Frederick Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 9:30 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet Good question. I see the FTP options you're referring to in the browse window in Linked Table Manager, but that looks like the general purpose browse. If you have a permanent circuit, you could use a package named Web Drive (commercial for about $50). It maps an FTP site into your machine as a drive letter. You have to set up the connection manually, as I recall. When you refer to it in Windows Explorer, it brings the directory over into a local cache. If you reference to the mdb, it apparently copies the entire mdb into the local cache where you can reference it without network delays. If you change the cached mdb, you either have to manually request that it be paged entirely back to the remote, or that happens when you close Web Drive. I know only of a variety of kludgy partial solutions to this problem. I'll be listening to this thread for some good ideas. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of gregg steinbrenner Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 7:21 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet Is there any way to link BE tables on a web server to a FE on a local system? I see options for FTP connections in the link table manager but I have not been able to get them to work. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Get your copy today at http://www.eMailBoss.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jimdettman at earthlink.net Tue Apr 15 12:17:48 2003 From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 13:17:48 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Gregg, Good piece of advice: forget it. Access/JET was never designed to run over a WAN much less the Internet and your simply asking for trouble. Jim Dettman President, Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc. (315) 699-3443 jimdettman at earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of gregg steinbrenner Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 7:21 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet Is there any way to link BE tables on a web server to a FE on a local system? I see options for FTP connections in the link table manager but I have not been able to get them to work. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From greggs at msn.com Tue Apr 15 12:59:39 2003 From: greggs at msn.com (gregg steinbrenner) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 12:59:39 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well... thanks everyone... great input. We tried one of everything. It looks frightfully slow even on cable. Looked good on paper though. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Dettman Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:18 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet Gregg, Good piece of advice: forget it. Access/JET was never designed to run over a WAN much less the Internet and your simply asking for trouble. Jim Dettman President, Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc. (315) 699-3443 jimdettman at earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of gregg steinbrenner Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 7:21 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet Is there any way to link BE tables on a web server to a FE on a local system? I see options for FTP connections in the link table manager but I have not been able to get them to work. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Jdemarco at hshhp.org Tue Apr 15 13:09:55 2003 From: Jdemarco at hshhp.org (Jim DeMarco) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 14:09:55 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] My response became an attachment?? Message-ID: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F99D85981@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com> OK how's this? Jim D -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:39 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] My response became an attachment?? Jim, Try sending your response again as plain text and see what happens. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 15 11:31 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] My response became an attachment?? Importance: Low This never used to happen is what I meant to say. Could something have happened on our Exchange server? Thanks, Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Bob Gajewski [mailto:bob at renaissancesiding.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:24 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] My response became an attachment?? Jim If you send emails in other than Plain Text, (such as RTF or HTML), some email programs handle the messages as attachments. Regards, Bob Gajewski On Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:10 PM, Jim DeMarco [SMTP:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] wrote: > My response to post "RE: Access and VB6 question" was posted as an attached text file. Any idea what's causing that (I sent it as the message body) > > Thanks, > > Jim DeMarco > Director of Product Development > HealthSource/Hudson Health Plan > > > > ************************************************************************ *********** > "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the > named recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged. 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Thank You". ************************************************************************ *********** _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com *********************************************************************************** "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank You". *********************************************************************************** From jim.hale at fleetpride.com Tue Apr 15 13:08:35 2003 From: jim.hale at fleetpride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 13:08:35 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] wztool80.USysRegInfo contents... Message-ID: <869379ABF177D4118D3100508B5EF87305B5B4A7@corp-es00> I am very interested in seeing this code also. Thanks. Jim Hale "To delight in war is a merit in a soldier, a dangerous quality in the captin, and a positive crime in the statesman" --George Santayana -----Original Message----- From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK [mailto:Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK] Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 9:02 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] wztool80.USysRegInfo contents... WIll get back to. Will ask them directly. Martin Quoting Shamil Salakhetdinov : > THNX Martin, > > But this one's USysRegInfo table is closed for curious user too :( > > Shamil > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 1:58 PM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] wztool80.USysRegInfo contents... > > > > Not sure but is this any use > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/AccessDev/Articles/ViewWiz.htm > > > > Martin > > > > Quoting Shamil Salakhetdinov : > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > Stan Leszinsky's "Access 97 Expert Solutions" book has some of the > > > source > > > code of MS > > > Access 97 wizards on accompanying CD (see P.S.) but the > USysRegInfo > > > table > > > of > > > wztool80 is protected from viewing. Have anybody seen it somewhere > > > "cracked"? - I'm curious about some useful info it may have... > > > > > > TIA for any info on subj, > > > Shamil > > > > > > P.S. > > > > > > File names: Utility.Mda > > > WzLib80.Mde > > > WzMain80.Mde > > > WzTool80.Mde > > > Title: Viewable Wizard Code for Microsoft Access 97 > > > > > > Description: > > > In the retail version of Microsoft(R) Access 97, you can't view > the > > > Visual > > > Basic for Applications code for wizards. This special version of > the > > > wizards contains viewable wizard code for developers to use as a > > > learning > > > tool. > > > > > > To install the viewable wizards: > > > 1. Close Access. > > > 2. Create a backup directory for the wizard files that came with > your > > > retail > > > version of Microsoft Access. > > > 3. From your Access directory, move the files Utility.mda, > > > WzLib80.Mde, > > > WzMain80.Mde, and WzTool80.Mde to the backup directory. > > > 4. Copy the self-extracting wizard file Wizard97.Exe to your > Access > > > directory and run the file. > > > > > > The viewable wizards are not supported in any way by Microsoft > > > Corporation. > > > Microsoft makes no guarantees about the performance of Microsoft > Access > > > when > > > using the viewable wizards. Some wizard code remains locked to > protect > > > Microsoft's proprietary algorithms. > > > > > > -- > > > e-mail: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru > > > Web: http://www.smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > AccessD mailing list > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Jdemarco at hshhp.org Tue Apr 15 13:12:07 2003 From: Jdemarco at hshhp.org (Jim DeMarco) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 14:12:07 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet Message-ID: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F99D85983@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com> Gregg, Is ASP an option for you? Not much of a performance hit there but it will require an interface rewrite. Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: gregg steinbrenner [mailto:greggs at msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 2:00 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet Well... thanks everyone... great input. We tried one of everything. It looks frightfully slow even on cable. Looked good on paper though. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Dettman Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:18 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet Gregg, Good piece of advice: forget it. Access/JET was never designed to run over a WAN much less the Internet and your simply asking for trouble. Jim Dettman President, Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc. (315) 699-3443 jimdettman at earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of gregg steinbrenner Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 7:21 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet Is there any way to link BE tables on a web server to a FE on a local system? I see options for FTP connections in the link table manager but I have not been able to get them to work. *********************************************************************************** "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. 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Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 15 13:10 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] My response became an attachment?? OK how's this? Jim D -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:39 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] My response became an attachment?? Jim, Try sending your response again as plain text and see what happens. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 15 11:31 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] My response became an attachment?? Importance: Low This never used to happen is what I meant to say. Could something have happened on our Exchange server? Thanks, Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Bob Gajewski [mailto:bob at renaissancesiding.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:24 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] My response became an attachment?? Jim If you send emails in other than Plain Text, (such as RTF or HTML), some email programs handle the messages as attachments. Regards, Bob Gajewski On Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:10 PM, Jim DeMarco [SMTP:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] wrote: > My response to post "RE: Access and VB6 question" was posted as an attached text file. Any idea what's causing that (I sent it as the message body) > > Thanks, > > Jim DeMarco > Director of Product Development > HealthSource/Hudson Health Plan From Jdemarco at hshhp.org Tue Apr 15 13:21:59 2003 From: Jdemarco at hshhp.org (Jim DeMarco) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 14:21:59 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Test - resend as plain text Message-ID: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F99D85988@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com> *********************************************************************************** "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank You". *********************************************************************************** -------------- next part -------------- From: Jim DeMarco Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:07 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access and VB6 question Your choice: a) Shell or b) ShellExecute API. Archives are loaded with examples. HTH, Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Barrows [mailto:Jeff at outbaktech.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 11:39 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Access and VB6 question I need to be able to open an Access 2k front end from a VB6 application. I want the users to click a button on my VB form and have the code open the Access FE in front of the VB app. Then, when we close the Access app, the VB app is already there. Can anyone help me with this? Jeff Barrows Outbak Technologies, LLC jeff at outbaktech.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From my.lists at verizon.net Tue Apr 15 13:24:42 2003 From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 11:24:42 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] My response became an attachment?? References: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F99D85981@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com> Message-ID: <012201c3037c$48c872b0$b615010a@FHTAPIA> much better thanks :) -Francisco http://rcm.netfirms.com On Tuesday, April 15, 2003 11:09 AM [GMT-8], Jim DeMarco wrote: : OK how's this? : : Jim D : : -----Original Message----- : From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] : Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:39 PM : To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com : Subject: RE: [AccessD] My response became an attachment?? : : : Jim, : : Try sending your response again as plain text and see what happens. : : Charles Wortz : Software Development Division : Texas Education Agency : 1701 N. Congress Ave : Austin, TX 78701-1494 : 512-463-9493 : CWortz at tea.state.tx.us : : : : -----Original Message----- : From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] : Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 15 11:31 : To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com : Subject: RE: [AccessD] My response became an attachment?? : Importance: Low : : : This never used to happen is what I meant to say. Could something : have : happened on our Exchange server? : : Thanks, : : Jim DeMarco : : : -----Original Message----- : From: Bob Gajewski [mailto:bob at renaissancesiding.com] : Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:24 PM : To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' : Subject: RE: [AccessD] My response became an attachment?? : : : Jim : : If you send emails in other than Plain Text, (such as RTF or HTML), : some : : email programs handle the messages as attachments. : : Regards, : Bob Gajewski : : On Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:10 PM, Jim DeMarco : [SMTP:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] wrote: :: My response to post "RE: Access and VB6 question" was posted as an : attached text file. Any idea what's causing that (I sent it as the : message body) :: :: Thanks, :: :: Jim DeMarco From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Tue Apr 15 13:22:46 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 11:22:46 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Reports Question Message-ID: Sorry, John, but reports didn't get an OpenArgs property until 2002. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: John Ruff [mailto:papparuff at attbi.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:40 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reports Question You can use the report's OpenArg to determine if the checkbox is checked on the form, then use the Format Event in the report's Detail section to determine if the form's checkbox has been checked, and if it has, change the backcolor of the detail section. So, Code to set the OpenArgs on the form that opens the report. DoCmd.OpenReport"MyReport", OpenArgs:=MyCheckBox In the Format Event of the report's detail section; Private Sub Detail_Format(Cancel As Integer, FormatCount As Integer) If Me.OpenArgs = True Then ' Make the backcolor of the ' Detail Section the color ' green Detail.BackColor = vbGreen End If End Sub John V. Ruff - The Eternal Optimist :-) Always Looking For Contract Opportunities "Commit to the Lord whatever you do, and your plans will succeed." Proverbs 16:3 -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting) Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 6:13 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reports Question Frank, The way I do this is to make a color table that stores an image of that color and then lookup this image based on the criteria you mentioned. You can then place a control on the continuous form that displays this image (you can stretch it to fit and send it to the back to make it cover the entire background). Scott -----Original Message----- From: Frank Tanner III [mailto:pctech at mybellybutton.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 9:07 AM To: Database Advisors Subject: [AccessD] Reports Question I an writing a report that I want to color the detail line a different color based upon an "option" checkbox in a form. Basically, if a box is checked AND the criteria that the checkbox represents is present in the record, it changes the color of that line in the details. For instance. If the checkbox is "flag toll-free numbers" and the record being displayed in the details contains "800" "888" "866" or "877" it will color the record green. How can I do this? I actually have several different check boxes with different criteria, but I'd imagine once one is figured out, it will work the same for all of them. Thank you for your assistance. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Jdemarco at hshhp.org Tue Apr 15 13:23:28 2003 From: Jdemarco at hshhp.org (Jim DeMarco) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 14:23:28 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] My response became an attachment?? Message-ID: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F99D8598A@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com> Charles, I just resent it. Funny thing though, when I opened it from my Sent folder the title bar said "Message(Plain Text)". Anyway, this and the test I just sent should end this thread! Thanks, Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 2:18 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] My response became an attachment?? Fine, if you didn't include your original response that started this whole thread. Try sending your original response (the one that turned into an attachment) as plain text and see what happens. But if you did include it, then you got problems because it didn't come through either as text or as an attachment. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 15 13:10 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] My response became an attachment?? OK how's this? Jim D -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:39 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] My response became an attachment?? Jim, Try sending your response again as plain text and see what happens. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 15 11:31 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] My response became an attachment?? Importance: Low This never used to happen is what I meant to say. Could something have happened on our Exchange server? Thanks, Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Bob Gajewski [mailto:bob at renaissancesiding.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:24 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] My response became an attachment?? Jim If you send emails in other than Plain Text, (such as RTF or HTML), some email programs handle the messages as attachments. Regards, Bob Gajewski On Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:10 PM, Jim DeMarco [SMTP:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] wrote: > My response to post "RE: Access and VB6 question" was posted as an attached text file. Any idea what's causing that (I sent it as the message body) > > Thanks, > > Jim DeMarco > Director of Product Development > HealthSource/Hudson Health Plan _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com *********************************************************************************** "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank You". *********************************************************************************** From Jdemarco at hshhp.org Tue Apr 15 13:24:39 2003 From: Jdemarco at hshhp.org (Jim DeMarco) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 14:24:39 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] My response became an attachment?? Message-ID: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F99D8598C@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com> Yeah this did better than my test resend. Oh well as long as it's OK now. Thanks, Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Francisco H Tapia [mailto:my.lists at verizon.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 2:25 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] My response became an attachment?? much better thanks :) -Francisco http://rcm.netfirms.com On Tuesday, April 15, 2003 11:09 AM [GMT-8], Jim DeMarco wrote: : OK how's this? : : Jim D : : -----Original Message----- : From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] : Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:39 PM : To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com : Subject: RE: [AccessD] My response became an attachment?? : : : Jim, : : Try sending your response again as plain text and see what happens. : : Charles Wortz : Software Development Division : Texas Education Agency : 1701 N. Congress Ave : Austin, TX 78701-1494 : 512-463-9493 : CWortz at tea.state.tx.us : : : : -----Original Message----- : From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] : Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 15 11:31 : To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com : Subject: RE: [AccessD] My response became an attachment?? : Importance: Low : : : This never used to happen is what I meant to say. Could something : have : happened on our Exchange server? : : Thanks, : : Jim DeMarco : : : -----Original Message----- : From: Bob Gajewski [mailto:bob at renaissancesiding.com] : Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:24 PM : To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' : Subject: RE: [AccessD] My response became an attachment?? : : : Jim : : If you send emails in other than Plain Text, (such as RTF or HTML), : some : : email programs handle the messages as attachments. : : Regards, : Bob Gajewski : : On Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:10 PM, Jim DeMarco : [SMTP:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] wrote: :: My response to post "RE: Access and VB6 question" was posted as an : attached text file. Any idea what's causing that (I sent it as the : message body) :: :: Thanks, :: :: Jim DeMarco _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com *********************************************************************************** "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank You". *********************************************************************************** From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Tue Apr 15 13:26:13 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 11:26:13 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Message-ID: One of the sample databases demonstrated this for 97. It was either the Solutions database or the sample forms database that you could download. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 4:41 AM To: AccessD (AccessD at databaseadvisors.com) Subject: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Hi all Does anyone know where there is any documentation on opening multiple instances of a form? I can't find anything in the help file or on MSDN. TIA Roz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Tue Apr 15 13:27:25 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 11:27:25 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Message-ID: Actually, you could use the name plus an incremental number as the key when you add the item to the collection, but it is natural that you can't address it the conventional way if you have multiple instances open. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:18 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Thanks Neal. I have ADH 97. I'll try and wrestle it off my colleague!! -----Original Message----- From: Neal Kling [mailto:nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us] Sent: 15-Apr-2003 14:01 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) I adapted code from ADH that worked well. Basically you declare a form variable as Form_MyForm and work with it. They use a collection to hold pointers to the instances of a form and code to add and remove items from the collection. The one hitch that I quickly hit was that you can't reference your form by name, in other words you can't use Forms!MyForm. If you don't have ADH I could probably put something together for you. Neal Kling Lotus, isn't that some kind of fancy flower? -----Original Message----- From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 8:41 AM To: AccessD (AccessD at databaseadvisors.com) Subject: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Hi all Does anyone know where there is any documentation on opening multiple instances of a form? I can't find anything in the help file or on MSDN. TIA Roz _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Tue Apr 15 13:31:16 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 11:31:16 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Message-ID: One of the sample databases demonstrated this for 97. It was either the Solutions database or the sample forms database that you could download. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 4:41 AM To: AccessD (AccessD at databaseadvisors.com) Subject: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Hi all Does anyone know where there is any documentation on opening multiple instances of a form? I can't find anything in the help file or on MSDN. TIA Roz From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Tue Apr 15 13:33:45 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 11:33:45 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Reports Question Message-ID: Sorry, John, but reports didn't get an OpenArgs property until 2002. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: John Ruff [mailto:papparuff at attbi.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:40 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reports Question You can use the report's OpenArg to determine if the checkbox is checked on the form, then use the Format Event in the report's Detail section to determine if the form's checkbox has been checked, and if it has, change the backcolor of the detail section. So, Code to set the OpenArgs on the form that opens the report. DoCmd.OpenReport"MyReport", OpenArgs:=MyCheckBox In the Format Event of the report's detail section; Private Sub Detail_Format(Cancel As Integer, FormatCount As Integer) If Me.OpenArgs = True Then ' Make the backcolor of the ' Detail Section the color ' green Detail.BackColor = vbGreen End If End Sub John V. Ruff - The Eternal Optimist :-) Always Looking For Contract Opportunities "Commit to the Lord whatever you do, and your plans will succeed." Proverbs 16:3 From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Tue Apr 15 13:40:09 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 13:40:09 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Test - resend as plain text Message-ID: Two attachments, no plain text, is what I see. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 15 13:22 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Test - resend as plain text Importance: Low From harkins at iglou.com Tue Apr 15 13:44:24 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 14:44:24 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) References: Message-ID: <01fa01c3037f$0aea19f0$fbecffcc@SusanOne> MessageIt's easy enough if you call the copy from the original using a command button Click event. Dim frm As Form Set frm = New formname frm.SetFocus Susan H. One of the sample databases demonstrated this for 97. It was either the Solutions database or the sample forms database that you could download. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 4:41 AM To: AccessD (AccessD at databaseadvisors.com) Subject: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Hi all Does anyone know where there is any documentation on opening multiple instances of a form? I can't find anything in the help file or on MSDN. TIA Roz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 15 13:22 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Test - resend as plain text Importance: Low _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Tue Apr 15 13:48:13 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 13:48:13 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Test - resend as plain text Message-ID: Call Scotland Yard! Somebody killed the Administrator at orridge.co.uk, a good and faithful AccessD list member at one time. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: System Administrator [mailto:postmaster at primary.orridge.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 15 13:42 To: Wortz, Charles Subject: RE: [AccessD] Test - resend as plain text Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. To: "accessd at databaseadvisors.com" Subject: RE: [AccessD] Test - resend as plain text Sent: 04/15/03 07:42 PM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: administrator at orridge.co.uk on 04/15/03 07:42 PM The e-mail account does not exist at the organization this message was sent to. Check the e-mail address, or contact the recipient directly to find out the correct address. From ebarro at afsweb.com Tue Apr 15 13:46:26 2003 From: ebarro at afsweb.com (Eric Barro) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 11:46:26 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Unfortunately to get to a share over TCPIP (without the VPN) you need to turn on NETBIOS over TCPIP and it can potentially be a security hole. --- Eric Barro Senior Systems Analyst Advanced Field Services (208) 772-7060 http://www.afsweb.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 10:07 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet Cool stuff. I have done the drive mapping to a remote folder using vpn before, but never considered linking to a table in a db on the other end. I can see how it would be a bit slow, particularly over DSL. If you use a vpn, there is a TON of added overhead to the data transmitted back and forth John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Reuben Cummings Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:56 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet I've done it. I'm on DSL. My ISP (and business partner) set up a folder on the server. He gave me the IP address and folder name, login and password. I simply mapped a drive to it like I would any drive. I could then link to the BE. However, the performance was terrible to the point I am now investigating replication over the DSL circuit between here and the ISP and one other office, that is also on the same DSL service, to the ISP. Reuben Cummings Director of Software Development GFC, LLC phone: 812.523.1017 email: reuben at gfconsultants.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John Frederick Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 9:30 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet Good question. I see the FTP options you're referring to in the browse window in Linked Table Manager, but that looks like the general purpose browse. If you have a permanent circuit, you could use a package named Web Drive (commercial for about $50). It maps an FTP site into your machine as a drive letter. You have to set up the connection manually, as I recall. When you refer to it in Windows Explorer, it brings the directory over into a local cache. If you reference to the mdb, it apparently copies the entire mdb into the local cache where you can reference it without network delays. If you change the cached mdb, you either have to manually request that it be paged entirely back to the remote, or that happens when you close Web Drive. I know only of a variety of kludgy partial solutions to this problem. I'll be listening to this thread for some good ideas. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of gregg steinbrenner Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 7:21 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet Is there any way to link BE tables on a web server to a FE on a local system? I see options for FTP connections in the link table manager but I have not been able to get them to work. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Get your copy today at http://www.eMailBoss.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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For highest compliancy try setting your > outgoing mail as plain text. > > -Francisco > http://rcm.netfirms.com > > On Tuesday, April 15, 2003 9:30 AM [GMT-8], > Jim DeMarco wrote: > > : This never used to happen is what I meant to say. Could something > : have happened on our Exchange server? > : > : Thanks, > : > : Jim DeMarco > : > : > : -----Original Message----- > : From: Bob Gajewski [mailto:bob at renaissancesiding.com] > : Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:24 PM > : To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > : Subject: RE: [AccessD] My response became an attachment?? > : > : > : Jim > : > : If you send emails in other than Plain Text, (such as RTF or HTML), > : some > : email programs handle the messages as attachments. > : > : Regards, > : Bob Gajewski > : > : On Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:10 PM, Jim DeMarco > : [SMTP:Jdemarco at hshhp.org] wrote: > :: My response to post "RE: Access and VB6 question" was posted as an > : attached text file. Any idea what's causing that (I sent it as the > : message body) > :: > :: Thanks, > :: > :: Jim DeMarco > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From harkins at iglou.com Tue Apr 15 13:56:50 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 14:56:50 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Test - resend as plain text References: Message-ID: <027101c30380$cd083430$fbecffcc@SusanOne> I don't see how it can be. I have accessd listed as "always send as plain text" in the properties for that address and mine still always come through with the attachment. I don't know what else to do. SUsan H. > I've been getting some stuff bounced that was definitely sent as plain > text. I'm not sure it's always operator error. From nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us Tue Apr 15 13:55:57 2003 From: nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us (Neal Kling) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 14:55:57 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Message-ID: <0EAA9F4906BA554FA26E6F9F2C540302025678@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us> Sure, in our own collection, but that's not the Access Forms collection, which by the way does add a reference to the form, but all the instances of the same form share the same name. I think you'll understand when you dive into the ADH modules. Neal Kling Lotus, isn't that some kind of fancy flower? -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 2:27 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Actually, you could use the name plus an incremental number as the key when you add the item to the collection, but it is natural that you can't address it the conventional way if you have multiple instances open. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:18 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Thanks Neal. I have ADH 97. I'll try and wrestle it off my colleague!! -----Original Message----- From: Neal Kling [mailto:nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us] Sent: 15-Apr-2003 14:01 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) I adapted code from ADH that worked well. Basically you declare a form variable as Form_MyForm and work with it. They use a collection to hold pointers to the instances of a form and code to add and remove items from the collection. The one hitch that I quickly hit was that you can't reference your form by name, in other words you can't use Forms!MyForm. If you don't have ADH I could probably put something together for you. Neal Kling Lotus, isn't that some kind of fancy flower? -----Original Message----- From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 8:41 AM To: AccessD (AccessD at databaseadvisors.com) Subject: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Hi all Does anyone know where there is any documentation on opening multiple instances of a form? I can't find anything in the help file or on MSDN. TIA Roz _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Tue Apr 15 14:04:16 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 12:04:16 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Message-ID: I already understand, thanks. I dived in ADH many editions ago. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Neal Kling [mailto:nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 10:56 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Sure, in our own collection, but that's not the Access Forms collection, which by the way does add a reference to the form, but all the instances of the same form share the same name. I think you'll understand when you dive into the ADH modules. Neal Kling Lotus, isn't that some kind of fancy flower? -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 2:27 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Actually, you could use the name plus an incremental number as the key when you add the item to the collection, but it is natural that you can't address it the conventional way if you have multiple instances open. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:18 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Thanks Neal. I have ADH 97. I'll try and wrestle it off my colleague!! -----Original Message----- From: Neal Kling [mailto:nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us] Sent: 15-Apr-2003 14:01 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) I adapted code from ADH that worked well. Basically you declare a form variable as Form_MyForm and work with it. They use a collection to hold pointers to the instances of a form and code to add and remove items from the collection. The one hitch that I quickly hit was that you can't reference your form by name, in other words you can't use Forms!MyForm. If you don't have ADH I could probably put something together for you. Neal Kling Lotus, isn't that some kind of fancy flower? -----Original Message----- From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 8:41 AM To: AccessD (AccessD at databaseadvisors.com) Subject: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Hi all Does anyone know where there is any documentation on opening multiple instances of a form? I can't find anything in the help file or on MSDN. TIA Roz _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mitsules_ms at nns.com Tue Apr 15 14:03:58 2003 From: mitsules_ms at nns.com (Mitsules, Mark) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 15:03:58 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Potential Job Opportunity Message-ID: Group, I respect the varied opinions that this group has to offer, therefore I am forwarding a question posed by a friend. He has offered me the opportunity to develop a web-enabled application that would closely follow the NETFLIX.com model albeit much smaller scale in terms of transactions. I have explained that my background is primarily based around the Micro$oft platform, and that the scope of his project may require an alternative approach. His/my question is this...what collection of components is 'most' suited for this type of application. And, if an M$ approach is not the most suited, what trade-offs, would there be? Secondly, if any independents are interested in developing such an application I will forward your contact information if you wish. Off-list replies are welcome. Mark From nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us Tue Apr 15 14:04:23 2003 From: nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us (Neal Kling) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 15:04:23 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Message-ID: <0EAA9F4906BA554FA26E6F9F2C5403022BD547@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us> Sure, in our own collection, but that's not the Access Forms collection, which by the way does add a reference to the multiple forms, but all the instances of the same form share the same name. So, while we can't use Debug.Print Forms("frmMyForm").Caption and expect to get meaningful results, we can use 'For Each frm In Forms....' Neal Kling Lotus, isn't that some kind of fancy flower? -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 2:27 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Actually, you could use the name plus an incremental number as the key when you add the item to the collection, but it is natural that you can't address it the conventional way if you have multiple instances open. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:18 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Thanks Neal. I have ADH 97. I'll try and wrestle it off my colleague!! -----Original Message----- From: Neal Kling [mailto:nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us] Sent: 15-Apr-2003 14:01 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) I adapted code from ADH that worked well. Basically you declare a form variable as Form_MyForm and work with it. They use a collection to hold pointers to the instances of a form and code to add and remove items from the collection. The one hitch that I quickly hit was that you can't reference your form by name, in other words you can't use Forms!MyForm. If you don't have ADH I could probably put something together for you. Neal Kling Lotus, isn't that some kind of fancy flower? -----Original Message----- From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 8:41 AM To: AccessD (AccessD at databaseadvisors.com) Subject: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Hi all Does anyone know where there is any documentation on opening multiple instances of a form? I can't find anything in the help file or on MSDN. TIA Roz _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us Tue Apr 15 14:06:15 2003 From: nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us (Neal Kling) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 15:06:15 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Message-ID: <0EAA9F4906BA554FA26E6F9F2C5403022BD548@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us> I know you do :-) I didn't think that one went. Neal Kling Lotus, isn't that some kind of fancy flower? -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 3:04 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) I already understand, thanks. I dived in ADH many editions ago. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Neal Kling [mailto:nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 10:56 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Sure, in our own collection, but that's not the Access Forms collection, which by the way does add a reference to the form, but all the instances of the same form share the same name. I think you'll understand when you dive into the ADH modules. Neal Kling Lotus, isn't that some kind of fancy flower? -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 2:27 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Actually, you could use the name plus an incremental number as the key when you add the item to the collection, but it is natural that you can't address it the conventional way if you have multiple instances open. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:18 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Thanks Neal. I have ADH 97. I'll try and wrestle it off my colleague!! -----Original Message----- From: Neal Kling [mailto:nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us] Sent: 15-Apr-2003 14:01 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) I adapted code from ADH that worked well. Basically you declare a form variable as Form_MyForm and work with it. They use a collection to hold pointers to the instances of a form and code to add and remove items from the collection. The one hitch that I quickly hit was that you can't reference your form by name, in other words you can't use Forms!MyForm. If you don't have ADH I could probably put something together for you. Neal Kling Lotus, isn't that some kind of fancy flower? -----Original Message----- From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 8:41 AM To: AccessD (AccessD at databaseadvisors.com) Subject: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Hi all Does anyone know where there is any documentation on opening multiple instances of a form? I can't find anything in the help file or on MSDN. TIA Roz _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From dwaters at usinternet.com Tue Apr 15 14:08:21 2003 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 14:08:21 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Error: -2147352567 ?? In-Reply-To: <000901c302cc$8407bf30$de1811d8@DanWaters> Message-ID: <004a01c30382$6496c4a0$de1811d8@DanWaters> Thanks to everyone who responded on this! I now have some direction. Dan Waters -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 3:26 PM To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors. Com' Subject: [AccessD] Error: -2147352567 ?? The error description is 'Update or CancelUpdate without AddNew or Edit.' I've checked for this problem and can't find it. This occurs repeatably (at least once a day) in the after update event of a several different comboboxes on a subform (so most of the time it doesn't happen). The subform is bound to a table that is on the many side of a one to many relationship with the table that the main form is bound to. This is in an AXP split database, FE and BE are both mdb's. The comboboxes use snapshot queries as their row source. Has anyone seen a negative error number like this? I couldn't find it on the MSKB. Dan Waters _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru Tue Apr 15 12:49:09 2003 From: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 21:49:09 +0400 Subject: [AccessD] Error -2147319779: Method 'Name' of object 'Reference' failed Message-ID: <04e801c30382$bbb307d0$b501010a@DAISY.local> Hi All, Have anybody met with the subject error with Access2000 and most probably Win98? If yes, what was a solution - just reinstall MS Access/MS Office or even install the latest MDAC as it's recommended here - http://www.recsnet.com/support/misc/mdac.htm? TIA for any info on the subject error, Shamil -- e-mail: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru Web: http://www.smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s From papparuff at attbi.com Tue Apr 15 14:19:51 2003 From: papparuff at attbi.com (John Ruff) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 12:19:51 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Reports Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <01b701c30383$fff6cf70$6401a8c0@papparuff> Sorry about that, so here's another way that works for Access97 and Access2K. If you don't have a function that tells you that a form is open, then copy this to a module (I place it in my basUtilities) module Public Function IsLoaded(strFormName As String) As Boolean ' Returns True if the specified form is open in Form view or Datasheet view. ' Comments : Determines if the named form is open ' Parameters: strFormName - form to check for ' Returns : True - form is open, False - form is not open ' IsLoaded = (SysCmd(acSysCmdGetObjectState, acForm, strFormName) <> 0) End Function Then, In the Format Event of the report's detail section; Private Sub Detail_Format(Cancel As Integer, FormatCount As Integer) If IsLoaded("frm_MyForm") = True Then If forms!frm_MyForm!MyCheckBox=True then ' Make the backcolor of the ' Detail Section the color ' green Detail.BackColor = vbGreen End If End If End Sub John V. Ruff - The Eternal Optimist :-) Always Looking For Contract Opportunities www.noclassroom.com Live software training Right over the Internet Home: 253.588.2139 Cell: 253.307/2947 9306 Farwest Dr SW Lakewood, WA 98498 "Commit to the Lord whatever you do, and your plans will succeed." Proverbs 16:3 -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 11:34 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reports Question Sorry, John, but reports didn't get an OpenArgs property until 2002. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: John Ruff [mailto:papparuff at attbi.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:40 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reports Question You can use the report's OpenArg to determine if the checkbox is checked on the form, then use the Format Event in the report's Detail section to determine if the form's checkbox has been checked, and if it has, change the backcolor of the detail section. So, Code to set the OpenArgs on the form that opens the report. DoCmd.OpenReport"MyReport", OpenArgs:=MyCheckBox In the Format Event of the report's detail section; Private Sub Detail_Format(Cancel As Integer, FormatCount As Integer) If Me.OpenArgs = True Then ' Make the backcolor of the ' Detail Section the color ' green Detail.BackColor = vbGreen End If End Sub John V. Ruff - The Eternal Optimist :-) Always Looking For Contract Opportunities "Commit to the Lord whatever you do, and your plans will succeed." Proverbs 16:3 _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From harkins at iglou.com Tue Apr 15 14:32:46 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 15:32:46 -0400 Subject: OT (Re: [AccessD] Error -2147319779: Method 'Name' of object 'Reference' failed ) References: <04e801c30382$bbb307d0$b501010a@DAISY.local> Message-ID: <02cb01c30385$f3de4630$fbecffcc@SusanOne> Hey! You're back! How was your vacation?????? Susan H. > Hi All, > > Have anybody met with the subject error with Access2000 and most probably > Win98? > If yes, what was a solution - just reinstall MS Access/MS Office or even > install the latest MDAC as it's recommended here - > http://www.recsnet.com/support/misc/mdac.htm? > > TIA for any info on the subject error, > Shamil > > -- > e-mail: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru > Web: http://www.smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From mitsules_ms at nns.com Tue Apr 15 14:52:42 2003 From: mitsules_ms at nns.com (Mitsules, Mark) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 15:52:42 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Error -2147319779: Method 'Name' of object 'Refere nce' failed Message-ID: Shamil, Here are a few things I found doing a Google search. Error List from WINERROR.H The following table describes the error codes contained in Winerror.h Error/Dec. Error/Hex Error Description -2147319779 (8002801D) Library not registered. I would try registering these .dll's as well as the main ADO DAO references before a reinstall. regsvr32 vbscript.dll regsvr32 jscript.dll Microsoft Data Access 2.7: http://download.microsoft.com/download/MDAC26/Refresh/2.0/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US /MDAC_TYP.EXE Microsoft Jet 4.0 Service Pack 6 (SP6). http://download.microsoft.com/download/Jet40/SP/4.0.6226/W9XNT4/EN-US/Jet40S P6_9xNT.exe Visual Basic Runtime: http://download.microsoft.com/download/vb60pro/Redist/sp5/WIN98Me/EN-US/vbru n60sp5.exe Mark -----Original Message----- From: Shamil Salakhetdinov [mailto:shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 1:49 PM To: AccessD Subject: [AccessD] Error -2147319779: Method 'Name' of object 'Reference' failed Hi All, Have anybody met with the subject error with Access2000 and most probably Win98? If yes, what was a solution - just reinstall MS Access/MS Office or even install the latest MDAC as it's recommended here - http://www.recsnet.com/support/misc/mdac.htm? TIA for any info on the subject error, Shamil -- e-mail: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru Web: http://www.smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Jdemarco at hshhp.org Tue Apr 15 14:58:24 2003 From: Jdemarco at hshhp.org (Jim DeMarco) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 15:58:24 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Test - resend as plain text Message-ID: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F99D859A1@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com> So you *can* do that at the address level. I changed my global option on Outlook 2K and it stopped sending attachments (or seemed to at least). Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 2:57 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Test - resend as plain text I don't see how it can be. I have accessd listed as "always send as plain text" in the properties for that address and mine still always come through with the attachment. I don't know what else to do. SUsan H. > I've been getting some stuff bounced that was definitely sent as plain > text. I'm not sure it's always operator error. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com *********************************************************************************** "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank You". *********************************************************************************** From Jdemarco at hshhp.org Tue Apr 15 15:02:43 2003 From: Jdemarco at hshhp.org (Jim DeMarco) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 16:02:43 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Potential Job Opportunity Message-ID: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F99D859A3@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com> Mark, I think if I were called upon to write a web application right now I'd be inclined to look at the .NET platform. If you are not already familiar with ASP then .NET will help you skip a step or two as you can design web forms and code using code-behind techniques that are similar to what you are already familiar with in Access (though it is definitely not comparable to Access). Get a free look by downloading the Web Matrix from M$. It's an ASP.NET dev tool that is not as full featured as VS.NET but you will get an idea of the power for sure. HTH, Jim DeMarco Director of Product Development HealthSource/Hudson Health Plan -----Original Message----- From: Mitsules, Mark [mailto:mitsules_ms at nns.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 3:04 PM To: 'AccessD' Subject: [AccessD] Potential Job Opportunity Group, I respect the varied opinions that this group has to offer, therefore I am forwarding a question posed by a friend. He has offered me the opportunity to develop a web-enabled application that would closely follow the NETFLIX.com model albeit much smaller scale in terms of transactions. I have explained that my background is primarily based around the Micro$oft platform, and that the scope of his project may require an alternative approach. His/my question is this...what collection of components is 'most' suited for this type of application. And, if an M$ approach is not the most suited, what trade-offs, would there be? Secondly, if any independents are interested in developing such an application I will forward your contact information if you wish. Off-list replies are welcome. Mark _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com *********************************************************************************** "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank You". *********************************************************************************** From shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru Tue Apr 15 15:06:45 2003 From: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 00:06:45 +0400 Subject: OT (Re: [AccessD] Error -2147319779: Method 'Name' of object'Reference' failed ) References: <04e801c30382$bbb307d0$b501010a@DAISY.local> <02cb01c30385$f3de4630$fbecffcc@SusanOne> Message-ID: <001a01c3038a$93f2f810$b501010a@DAISY.local> Yes, Susan, I'm back - the vacation was great! - we visited Netherlands, Germany, Belgium and France in two weeks... We've taken a lot of pictures - ~ 250+ - I still to scan and put some of them on my Web-site... I wish they never ended, the vacations like the ones we've had recently!... BTW, Gustav Brock is here in St.Petersburg, Russia in his business/tourist trip - first western member of AccessD in St.Petersburg, Russia - who is the next? Shamil :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Harkins" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 11:32 PM Subject: OT (Re: [AccessD] Error -2147319779: Method 'Name' of object'Reference' failed ) > Hey! You're back! How was your vacation?????? > > Susan H. > > > > Hi All, > > > > Have anybody met with the subject error with Access2000 and most probably > > Win98? > > If yes, what was a solution - just reinstall MS Access/MS Office or even > > install the latest MDAC as it's recommended here - > > http://www.recsnet.com/support/misc/mdac.htm? > > > > TIA for any info on the subject error, > > Shamil > > > > -- > > e-mail: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru > > Web: http://www.smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Tue Apr 15 15:22:30 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 13:22:30 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Message-ID: When you use For Each frm in Forms, you're iterating through the members of the collection of open forms and you're going by index rather than by name. That's the equivalent of Forms(0), Forms(1), etc., not Forms("frmMyForm"), although you're free to address them using the numeric index ... if you know which one you need. Why would you expect the caption to give you meaningful results? That is not a difference in the name of the form, and anyhow you aren't looking for a different form, you just want a particular instance of that form; so if you can create a key that will get you there, why not use it? Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Neal Kling [mailto:nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 11:04 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Sure, in our own collection, but that's not the Access Forms collection, which by the way does add a reference to the multiple forms, but all the instances of the same form share the same name. So, while we can't use Debug.Print Forms("frmMyForm").Caption and expect to get meaningful results, we can use 'For Each frm In Forms....' Neal Kling Lotus, isn't that some kind of fancy flower? -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 2:27 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Actually, you could use the name plus an incremental number as the key when you add the item to the collection, but it is natural that you can't address it the conventional way if you have multiple instances open. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:18 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Thanks Neal. I have ADH 97. I'll try and wrestle it off my colleague!! -----Original Message----- From: Neal Kling [mailto:nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us] Sent: 15-Apr-2003 14:01 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) I adapted code from ADH that worked well. Basically you declare a form variable as Form_MyForm and work with it. They use a collection to hold pointers to the instances of a form and code to add and remove items from the collection. The one hitch that I quickly hit was that you can't reference your form by name, in other words you can't use Forms!MyForm. If you don't have ADH I could probably put something together for you. Neal Kling Lotus, isn't that some kind of fancy flower? -----Original Message----- From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 8:41 AM To: AccessD (AccessD at databaseadvisors.com) Subject: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Hi all Does anyone know where there is any documentation on opening multiple instances of a form? I can't find anything in the help file or on MSDN. TIA Roz _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From thevigil at kabelfoon.nl Tue Apr 15 16:02:48 2003 From: thevigil at kabelfoon.nl (Bert-Jan Brinkhuis) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 23:02:48 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] OT: PHP list Message-ID: <001001c30392$60bfd8c0$115b2d3e@jester> Dear list, i know this is way OT, but i thought i would get a better response on the 'normal' list then on the OT list. I am looking into PHP (and maybe MYSQL). Does anyone know a list for PHP as good as this list? Thanks in advance. Bert-Jan From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Tue Apr 15 16:11:52 2003 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 14:11:52 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Visual Basic 6 setup toolkit error with packaging wizard from Dev XP References: Message-ID: <3E9C7598.9040408@shaw.ca> Patrick Hollermann wrote: > Hello List, > I have an error that is giving me fits. I have a package made using MS > development package wizard for XP and it has worked well for me for > the last year. I redistributed and access runtime package (FE) that > looks at a SQL (BE) within a confined office complex for 5 revisions. > This has worked fine, until now. The process of putting a package > together on a server on the network and getting access to it from the > users work station appears to work fine. We are running Office XP with > SP3 installed on all machines. We have a combination of windows 2000 > and NT workstations at the users desks. > > Here is the process I follow when installing on a users workstation. > As I run the install process it starts running, opens, looks for > available space, and on the NT workstations it then starts installing > the Access Runtime files and then the 6mb adp file. On some of the > 2000 workstations the install also runs with no trouble. On some of > the 2000 workstations I get the following error in a Visual Basic 6.0 > Setup Toolkit pop up dialog box: > > "The Office System Pack cannot be installed in this system because it > requires Windows NT4.0 Service Pack 6 or later". > > After this error the installation terminates and says unsuccessful. > Has anyone seen this error before? Any places to look on the > development machine for something that I might have changed that is > causing this problem? As always any help is welcome. Thank you all for > your help and or suggestions. > > P.S. management won't spring for a different packaging software like > Sage.. I asked& > > Patrick L. Hollermann > Park Industries, Inc. > St. Cloud MN, USA > It might be admin install rights on Win2000 or all the Win 2000 clients on same SP. http://www.microsoft.com/office/ork/xp/one/depa04.htm http://www.microsoft.com/office/ork/2000/journ/IntelliMirror.h From JRojas at tnco-inc.com Tue Apr 15 16:15:43 2003 From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 17:15:43 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Test - resend as plain text Message-ID: <806536912C472E4A9D6515DF2E57261E0C59B7@mercury.tnco-inc.com> Where do you make this setting change, Susan? I am assuming that you are talking about some flavor of Outlook. TIA! JR -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 2:57 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Test - resend as plain text I don't see how it can be. I have accessd listed as "always send as plain text" in the properties for that address and mine still always come through with the attachment. I don't know what else to do. SUsan H. > I've been getting some stuff bounced that was definitely sent as plain > text. I'm not sure it's always operator error. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This electronic transmission is strictly confidential to TNCO, Inc. and intended solely for the addressee. It may contain information which is covered by legal, professional, or other privileges. 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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Tue Apr 15 16:17:35 2003 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 14:17:35 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Re: [dba-OT] Warning OT-OT Excel References: <008201c302de$a25f0f80$d1e6ffcc@SusanOne> <0d1d01c3034a$e0611d70$0300a8c0@S856> <1420.168.156.202.17.1050429136.squirrel@www.oz.net> <0e9201c3037e$42df7810$0300a8c0@S856> Message-ID: <3E9C76EF.1000109@shaw.ca> Lembit Soobik wrote: >Thank you, Karen, >but that would set the computer to the US language option. >problem with this is I forget to reset it to German. >I have done this previously and messed up data in an Access db when I imported >there. >So I thought it would be good to have an Excel worksheet which I can set to US >without setting the computer to US. >Lembit > >Lembit Soobik > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 7:52 PM >Subject: Re: [dba-OT] Warning OT-OT Excel > > > > >>Lembit, >>Didn't see any response on this, so I'll give it a try. >> >>I don't know what version of Windows you are running, but look at the >>keyboard settings in control panel. You should have language options to >>choose from there, i.e., English (USA) and Western European. The US >>standard is just the reverse: it's . for decimal point and , for thousands >>separator. >> >>Also, try the MS Office Update site. I'm at school right now, so don't >>have access to my magnificent URL collection. >> >>Regards, >>Karen Rosenstiel >>Seattle WA USA >>karenr7 at oz.net >> >> >> >>>Does anybody know a way to make an Excel worksheet use a different >>>international setting than the computers default? >>>I have some worksheets where I want to copy/paste some data from US >>>websites or documents. >>>My settings are , for decimal point and . for thousands separator, which >>>makes a US 24.something 24 000. >>> >>>Lembit Soobik >>> >>> >>> maybe use api to do changes like this: in a module and reset when through with it '? Get_locale(LOCALE_SDATE) ' / '? Get_locale(LOCALE_SCURRENCY) ' $ '? Get_locale(LOCALE_SABBREVCTRYNAME) 'CAN Private Declare Function GetLocaleInfo Lib "kernel32" Alias _ "GetLocaleInfoA" (ByVal Locale As Long, ByVal LCType As Long, _ ByVal lpLCData As String, ByVal cchData As Long) As Long Private Declare Function SetLocaleInfo Lib "kernel32" Alias _ "SetLocaleInfoA" (ByVal Locale As Long, ByVal LCType As Long, _ ByVal lpLCData As String) As Boolean Declare Function GetUserDefaultLCID% Lib "kernel32" () Declare Function PostMessage Lib "user32" Alias "PostMessageA" (ByVal hwnd As Long, ByVal wMsg As Long, ByVal wParam As Long, ByVal lParam As Long) As Long Public Const HWND_BROADCAST = &HFFFF& Public Const WM_WININICHANGE = &H1A Public Const LOCALE_ICENTURY As Long = &H24 Public Const LOCALE_ICOUNTRY As Long = &H5 Public Const LOCALE_ICURRDIGITS As Long = &H19 Public Const LOCALE_ICURRENCY As Long = &H1B Public Const LOCALE_IDATE As Long = &H21 Public Const LOCALE_IDAYLZERO As Long = &H26 Public Const LOCALE_IDEFAULTCODEPAGE As Long = &HB Public Const LOCALE_IDEFAULTCOUNTRY As Long = &HA Public Const LOCALE_IDEFAULTLANGUAGE As Long = &H9 Public Const LOCALE_IDIGITS As Long = &H11 Public Const LOCALE_IINTLCURRDIGITS As Long = &H1A Public Const LOCALE_ILANGUAGE As Long = &H1 Public Const LOCALE_ILDATE As Long = &H22 Public Const LOCALE_ILZERO = &H12 Public Const LOCALE_IMEASURE = &HD Public Const LOCALE_IMONLZERO = &H27 Public Const LOCALE_INEGCURR = &H1C Public Const LOCALE_INEGSEPBYSPACE = &H57 Public Const LOCALE_INEGSIGNPOSN = &H53 Public Const LOCALE_INEGSYMPRECEDES = &H56 Public Const LOCALE_IPOSSEPBYSPACE = &H55 Public Const LOCALE_IPOSSIGNPOSN = &H52 Public Const LOCALE_IPOSSYMPRECEDES = &H54 Public Const LOCALE_ITIME = &H23 Public Const LOCALE_ITLZERO = &H25 Public Const LOCALE_NOUSEROVERRIDE = &H80000000 Public Const SymbolAM = &H28 Public Const SymbolPM = &H29 Public Const LOCALE_SABBREVCTRYNAME = &H7 Public Const LOCALE_SABBREVDAYNAME1 = &H31 Public Const LOCALE_SABBREVDAYNAME2 = &H32 Public Const LOCALE_SABBREVDAYNAME3 = &H33 Public Const LOCALE_SABBREVDAYNAME4 = &H34 Public Const LOCALE_SABBREVDAYNAME5 = &H35 Public Const LOCALE_SABBREVDAYNAME6 = &H36 Public Const LOCALE_SABBREVDAYNAME7 = &H37 Public Const LOCALE_SABBREVLANGNAME = &H3 Public Const LOCALE_SABBREVMONTHNAME1 = &H44 Public Const LOCALE_SCOUNTRY = &H6 Public Const LOCALE_SCURRENCY = &H14 Public Const LOCALE_SDATE = &H1D Public Const LOCALE_SDAYNAME1 = &H2A Public Const LOCALE_SDAYNAME2 = &H2B Public Const LOCALE_SDAYNAME3 = &H2C Public Const LOCALE_SDAYNAME4 = &H2D Public Const LOCALE_SDAYNAME5 = &H2E Public Const LOCALE_SDAYNAME6 = &H2F Public Const LOCALE_SDAYNAME7 = &H30 Public Const LOCALE_SDECIMAL As Long = &HE Public Const LOCALE_SENGCOUNTRY = &H1002 Public Const LOCALE_SENGLANGUAGE = &H1001 Public Const LOCALE_SGROUPING = &H10 Public Const LOCALE_SINTLSYMBOL = &H15 Public Const LOCALE_SLANGUAGE = &H2 Public Const LOCALE_SLIST As Long = &HC Public Const LOCALE_SLONGDATE = &H20 Public Const LOCALE_SMONDECIMALSEP = &H16 Public Const LOCALE_SMONGROUPING = &H18 Public Const LOCALE_SMONTHNAME1 = &H38 Public Const LOCALE_SMONTHNAME10 = &H41 Public Const LOCALE_SMONTHNAME11 = &H42 Public Const LOCALE_SMONTHNAME12 = &H43 Public Const LOCALE_SMONTHNAME2 = &H39 Public Const LOCALE_SMONTHNAME3 = &H3A Public Const LOCALE_SMONTHNAME4 = &H3B Public Const LOCALE_SMONTHNAME5 = &H3C Public Const LOCALE_SMONTHNAME6 = &H3D Public Const LOCALE_SMONTHNAME7 = &H3E Public Const LOCALE_SMONTHNAME8 = &H3F Public Const LOCALE_SMONTHNAME9 = &H40 Public Const LOCALE_SMONTHOUSANDSEP = &H17 Public Const LOCALE_SNATIVECTRYNAME = &H8 Public Const LOCALE_SNATIVEDIGITS = &H13 Public Const LOCALE_SNATIVELANGNAME = &H4 Public Const LOCALE_SNEGATIVESIGN = &H51 Public Const LOCALE_SPOSITIVESIGN = &H50 Public Const LOCALE_SSHORTDATE = &H1F Public Const LOCALE_STHOUSAND As Long = &HF Public Const LOCALE_STIME = &H1E Public Const LOCALE_STIMEFORMAT = &H1003 Public Function Get_locale(ByVal RSValue As Long) ' Retrieve the regional setting Dim Symbol As String Dim iRet1 As Long Dim iRet2 As Long Dim lpLCDataVar As String Dim Pos As Integer Dim Locale As Long Locale = GetUserDefaultLCID() 'LOCALE_SDATE is the constant for the date separator 'as stated in declarations 'for any other locale setting just change the constant 'Function can also be re-written to take the 'locale symbol being requested as a parameter iRet1 = GetLocaleInfo(Locale, RSValue, _ lpLCDataVar, 0) Symbol = String$(iRet1, 0) iRet2 = GetLocaleInfo(Locale, RSValue, Symbol, iRet1) Pos = InStr(Symbol, Chr$(0)) If Pos > 0 Then Symbol = Left$(Symbol, Pos - 1) Get_locale = Symbol End If End Function Public Function Set_locale(ByVal RSValue As Long, Symbol As String) 'Change the regional setting Dim iRet As Long Dim Locale As Long Locale = GetUserDefaultLCID() 'Get user Locale ID iRet = SetLocaleInfo(Locale, RSValue, Symbol) End Function Public Sub Anounce_locale_change() PostMessage HWND_BROADCAST, WM_WININICHANGE, 0, 0 End Sub From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Tue Apr 15 16:48:47 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 14:48:47 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Enough, Already!! Message-ID: OK, who is administrator at orridge.co.uk when he's at home and why doesn't he like my email? I keep getting these bounces, and I promise you, I'm sending in text. Charlotte Foust From harkins at iglou.com Tue Apr 15 17:47:48 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 18:47:48 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Test - resend as plain text References: <806536912C472E4A9D6515DF2E57261E0C59B7@mercury.tnco-inc.com> Message-ID: <00c401c303a1$157c1fe0$cee6ffcc@SusanOne> I'm using EO. In the Address Book window, right-click the addressee and choose Properties. Click the Name tab and at the bottom is a checkbox option for "send only as plain text" -- just click it and you're done. :) However, some of my mail still shows up with the attachment symbol and I can't explain that. Susan H. > Where do you make this setting change, Susan? > I am assuming that you are talking about some flavor of Outlook. > > TIA! > > JR > > -----Original Message----- > From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 2:57 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Test - resend as plain text > > I don't see how it can be. I have accessd listed as "always send as plain > text" in the properties for that address and mine still always come through > with the attachment. I don't know what else to do. > > SUsan H. > > > > I've been getting some stuff bounced that was definitely sent as plain > > text. I'm not sure it's always operator error. > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > This electronic transmission is strictly confidential to TNCO, Inc. and > intended solely for the addressee. It may contain information which is > covered by legal, professional, or other privileges. If you are not the > intended addressee, or someone authorized by the intended addressee to > receive transmissions on behalf of the addressee, you must not retain, > disclose in any form, copy, or take any action in reliance on this > transmission. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify > the sender as soon as possible and destroy this message. While TNCO, Inc. > uses virus protection, the recipient should check this email and any > attachments for the presence of viruses. TNCO, Inc. accepts no liability for > any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Tue Apr 15 17:47:48 2003 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 08:47:48 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Access and VB6 question In-Reply-To: <1050425063.3732.60.camel@sgsax-th4022c> References: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE63050032636@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com> Message-ID: <3E9D18B4.509.2317D1@localhost> If you can't predict the pass to Access, you can achieve the same thing using ShellExecute() Public Declare Function ShellExecute Lib "shell32.dll" Alias "ShellExecuteA" (ByVal hwnd As Long, ByVal lpOperation As String, ByVal lpFile As String, ByVal lpParameters As String, ByVal lpDirectory As String, ByVal nShowCmd As Long) As Long ShellExecute(0,"Open","C:\Full\Path\To\YourApp.mdb"","","",1) The 1 = Show_Normal, you could also use 3 for Show_Maximized On 15 Apr 2003 at 11:44, Seth Galitzer wrote: > Jeff, > > This is actually very easy. Just use the Shell() function to open > Access with a particular mdb, just like in a shortcut. The execution > string would be something like: > > """C:\Full\Path\To\msaccess.exe"" ""C:\Full\Path\To\YourApp.mdb""" > > If you want additional commandline flags, jsut add them to the string. > > If you don't include code in your VB app to close after shelling out, > then it will be open when you close the Access app. > > Seth > > On Tue, 2003-04-15 at 10:39, Jeff Barrows wrote: > > I need to be able to open an Access 2k front end from a VB6 > > application. I want the users to click a button on my VB form and > > have the code open the Access FE in front of the VB app. Then, when > > we close the Access app, the VB app is already there. Can anyone > > help me with this? > > > > Jeff Barrows > > Outbak Technologies, LLC > > jeff at outbaktech.com > > -- > Seth Galitzer sgsax at ksu.edu > Computing Specialist http://puma.agron.ksu.edu/~sgsax > Dept. of Plant Pathology > Kansas State University > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Tue Apr 15 18:14:23 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 16:14:23 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Test - resend as plain text Message-ID: Um, EO? Express Outlook? Eudora Office? Everything Odd?? Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 2:48 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Test - resend as plain text I'm using EO. In the Address Book window, right-click the addressee and choose Properties. Click the Name tab and at the bottom is a checkbox option for "send only as plain text" -- just click it and you're done. :) However, some of my mail still shows up with the attachment symbol and I can't explain that. Susan H. > Where do you make this setting change, Susan? > I am assuming that you are talking about some flavor of Outlook. > > TIA! > > JR > > -----Original Message----- > From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 2:57 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Test - resend as plain text > > I don't see how it can be. I have accessd listed as "always send as > plain text" in the properties for that address and mine still always > come through > with the attachment. I don't know what else to do. > > SUsan H. > > > > I've been getting some stuff bounced that was definitely sent as > > plain text. I'm not sure it's always operator error. > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > This electronic transmission is strictly confidential to TNCO, Inc. > and intended solely for the addressee. It may contain information > which is covered by legal, professional, or other privileges. If you > are not the intended addressee, or someone authorized by the intended > addressee to receive transmissions on behalf of the addressee, you > must not retain, disclose in any form, copy, or take any action in > reliance on this transmission. If you have received this transmission > in error, please notify > the sender as soon as possible and destroy this message. While TNCO, > Inc. uses virus protection, the recipient should check this email and > any attachments for the presence of viruses. TNCO, Inc. accepts no > liability for > any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From carbonnb at sympatico.ca Tue Apr 15 18:18:44 2003 From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 19:18:44 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT: PHP list In-Reply-To: <001001c30392$60bfd8c0$115b2d3e@jester> Message-ID: <3E9C5B14.215.9E9945@localhost> On 15 Apr 2003 at 23:02, Bert-Jan Brinkhuis wrote: > I am looking into PHP (and maybe MYSQL). Does anyone know a list for > PHP as good as this list? Bert-Jan For PHP lists, have a look at: http://www.php.net/mailing-lists.php The General user list is top notch. One word of caution. It is a HIGH volume list. 100-200 posts a day are not uncommon, or at least weren't when I was subscribed. But the calibre of the folks there is probably second to none. As for MySQLlook at: http://www.mysql.com/documentation/lists.php mysql at lists.mysql.com is the main list. Again high volume, 150+ not uncommon, or at least when I was subscribed. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca I used to have a handle on life, but it broke. From artful at rogers.com Tue Apr 15 18:19:28 2003 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 19:19:28 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT: PHP list In-Reply-To: <001001c30392$60bfd8c0$115b2d3e@jester> Message-ID: <028b01c303a5$769aa7c0$8e01a8c0@Rock> Visit mysql.com and sign up for the lists you like. They are really good. A. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bert-Jan Brinkhuis Sent: April 15, 2003 5:03 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] OT: PHP list Dear list, i know this is way OT, but i thought i would get a better response on the 'normal' list then on the OT list. I am looking into PHP (and maybe MYSQL). Does anyone know a list for PHP as good as this list? Thanks in advance. Bert-Jan From harkins at iglou.com Tue Apr 15 18:22:47 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 19:22:47 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Test - resend as plain text References: Message-ID: <003201c303a5$efcafa50$324afccc@SusanOne> Outlook Express -- sorry. Charlotte, if you can't talk Rabbit by now... ;) Susan H. > Um, EO? Express Outlook? Eudora Office? Everything Odd?? From my.lists at verizon.net Tue Apr 15 18:35:28 2003 From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 16:35:28 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] TEST - Plain text Message-ID: <000701c303a7$b2c48070$b615010a@FHTAPIA> PING (for bounce) -Francisco http://rcm.netfirms.com From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Tue Apr 15 18:33:59 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 16:33:59 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Test - resend as plain text Message-ID: Consider it a speech impediment. I've never found anything similar in Outlook, BTW, only a global setting. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 3:23 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Test - resend as plain text Outlook Express -- sorry. Charlotte, if you can't talk Rabbit by now... ;) Susan H. > Um, EO? Express Outlook? Eudora Office? Everything Odd?? _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Tue Apr 15 18:35:03 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 16:35:03 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Enough, Already!! Message-ID: Gah!! Even this message also got a bounce! Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 1:49 PM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Enough, Already!! OK, who is administrator at orridge.co.uk when he's at home and why doesn't he like my email? I keep getting these bounces, and I promise you, I'm sending in text. Charlotte Foust _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From carbonnb at sympatico.ca Tue Apr 15 18:40:37 2003 From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 19:40:37 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Enough, Already!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3E9C6035.6719.B2A466@localhost> On 15 Apr 2003 at 16:35, Charlotte Foust wrote: > Gah!! Even this message also got a bounce! > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charlotte Foust > OK, who is administrator at orridge.co.uk when he's at home and why > doesn't he like my email? I keep getting these bounces, and I promise > you, I'm sending in text. Charlotte, It's not because they don't like you or you plain text e-mails ('cause they are plain text), but that administrator account no longer exists on their system and whom ever was subscribed at that address didn't bother unsubbing before they nuke the account. It's got nohting to do with you. Really it doesn't. :-) -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca I've learned.... That having a child fall asleep in your arms is one of the most peaceful feelings in the world. From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Tue Apr 15 18:51:10 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 16:51:10 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Enough, Already!! Message-ID: That's easy for YOU to say!! If that's the case, then why isn't everyone seeing this? Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Carbonnell [mailto:carbonnb at sympatico.ca] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 3:41 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Enough, Already!! On 15 Apr 2003 at 16:35, Charlotte Foust wrote: > Gah!! Even this message also got a bounce! > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charlotte Foust > OK, who is administrator at orridge.co.uk when he's at home and why > doesn't he like my email? I keep getting these bounces, and I promise > you, I'm sending in text. Charlotte, It's not because they don't like you or you plain text e-mails ('cause they are plain text), but that administrator account no longer exists on their system and whom ever was subscribed at that address didn't bother unsubbing before they nuke the account. It's got nohting to do with you. Really it doesn't. :-) -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca I've learned.... That having a child fall asleep in your arms is one of the most peaceful feelings in the world. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From harkins at iglou.com Tue Apr 15 18:52:21 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 19:52:21 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Test - resend as plain text References: Message-ID: <007301c303aa$23035350$324afccc@SusanOne> Charlotte, not everybody can do it... :) Takes years of screwing up to really talk rabbit good... ;) Susan H. > Consider it a speech impediment. Charlotte, if you can't talk Rabbit by now... From DWUTKA at marlow.com Tue Apr 15 19:02:15 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 19:02:15 -0500 Subject: [Accessd] FE/BE on server vs FE on workstation/BE on server? Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D826BD@main2.marlow.com> Putting the FE on the server is just like not splitting the FE to begin with. That's about it, in a nutshell. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Bill Morrill [mailto:bmorrill at attbi.com] Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 8:14 AM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [Accessd] FE/BE on server vs FE on workstation/BE on server? 4-14-03 For sometime I have been putting frontends(forms, queries, reports etc) on workstation machines and backends(tables) on server. Links would then be made from each workstation to the server. Recently, a user mentioned that they were using the same database frontend/backend on the server. Each user would activate the frontend on the server and then the backend on the server would of course be linked to the frontend. They said this shared backend/frontend situation worked fine and that there was no need to put the frontend on each workstation. Anyone know the ramifications for this frontend/backend on server idea? Does this impact the network performance? Does this reduce the maximum number of concurrent users? Would Access have to be installed on the server to make this viable? Thanks in advance, Bill _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From carbonnb at sympatico.ca Tue Apr 15 19:04:42 2003 From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 20:04:42 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Enough, Already!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3E9C65DA.24639.FC915@localhost> On 15 Apr 2003 at 16:51, Charlotte Foust wrote: > That's easy for YOU to say!! If that's the case, then why isn't > everyone seeing this? Well, your problem is that you post too much :-)) I have gotten them for the last 2 I have posted to the main list, and I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that I'll get one from this post too. All I can suggest is to set up a filter to filter any e-mail from postmaster at primary.orridge.co.uk to the trash Until we can get an admin to unsub administrator at orridge.co.uk from the list. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca Normal people worry me. From DWUTKA at marlow.com Tue Apr 15 19:21:33 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 19:21:33 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Enough, Already!! Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D826BE@main2.marlow.com> Simple, it is sending it ONLY to the person sending the post. So everyone posting is getting that message. (Or should be.) Drew -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 6:51 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Enough, Already!! That's easy for YOU to say!! If that's the case, then why isn't everyone seeing this? Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Carbonnell [mailto:carbonnb at sympatico.ca] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 3:41 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Enough, Already!! On 15 Apr 2003 at 16:35, Charlotte Foust wrote: > Gah!! Even this message also got a bounce! > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charlotte Foust > OK, who is administrator at orridge.co.uk when he's at home and why > doesn't he like my email? I keep getting these bounces, and I promise > you, I'm sending in text. Charlotte, It's not because they don't like you or you plain text e-mails ('cause they are plain text), but that administrator account no longer exists on their system and whom ever was subscribed at that address didn't bother unsubbing before they nuke the account. It's got nohting to do with you. Really it doesn't. :-) -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca I've learned.... That having a child fall asleep in your arms is one of the most peaceful feelings in the world. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Tue Apr 15 19:27:56 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 19:27:56 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Enough, Already!! Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D826C1@main2.marlow.com> Sorry, been busy with salvaging my stuff! Just unsubbed Paul Hartland, (both email addresses failed). If anyone has another address to contact him at, let me know, so I can tell him he's been unsubbed. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Carbonnell [mailto:carbonnb at sympatico.ca] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 7:05 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Enough, Already!! On 15 Apr 2003 at 16:51, Charlotte Foust wrote: > That's easy for YOU to say!! If that's the case, then why isn't > everyone seeing this? Well, your problem is that you post too much :-)) I have gotten them for the last 2 I have posted to the main list, and I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that I'll get one from this post too. All I can suggest is to set up a filter to filter any e-mail from postmaster at primary.orridge.co.uk to the trash Until we can get an admin to unsub administrator at orridge.co.uk from the list. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca Normal people worry me. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Tue Apr 15 19:37:17 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 19:37:17 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D826C2@main2.marlow.com> Because the string he is 'looking' for in that last 'string' starts at position 9. Now William....how long have you been writing code? Drew -----Original Message----- From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 11:51 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters "and return a 9" ...that's about as close to mud as you can get ...how did you arrive at the "9"? :( William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 12:00 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters > I think if there was a way to incorporate the Like operator with the InStr > function then my problem would be solved. > > Let me explain what I'm doing and maybe someone will have suggestion for a > better way of doing it. > > My client sends a text file of invoices to a Railroad (RR) company. This RR > requires a specific file format for their billing system to import the > invoices. My client has tried working with their accounting software people > to get the format they need but they say they have done what they need to do > so if it requires more coding they will do at a fee of $250 per hour and > quoted 25 hours (great money if you can get it). > > Anyway, I'm taking the text file the accounting software creates which is > close to what is needed, and making the few more changes to it to make it > compatible with the RR company. So far, I've discoved that by searching the > file for certain strings, I can replace that string with something else. > It's been fairly simple up to this point since the strings I'm searching for > have all been static. I'm storing the strings to search for and replace > with in a table so if something changes they just adjust the strings in the > table and away we go. > > Now we have a change where the portion of the file I need to change includes > a date which changes with each new file. Now, I could have the client > change the date in the searchfor string each time they run the program for a > new file but it would be really nice if I could have a function search for > "N1~GA~????????" (where the ?'s represent a date in yyyymmdd format)in this > string "REF~03~!N1~GA~20020414" and return a 9. > > Clear as mud? > > Rusty > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike and Doris Manning [mailto:mikedorism at ntelos.net] > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 10:20 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters > > > How about InStr function? > > Doris Manning > Database Administrator > Hargrove Inc. > www.hargroveinc.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 10:57 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters > > > Does anyone have any code that will search a string variable for a string > that includes wildcard characters and returns the location? > > ie > strVariable="This is a test" > search strVariable for "te??" returns 11 > > > Rusty > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Tue Apr 15 19:34:49 2003 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 10:34:49 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Enough, Already!! In-Reply-To: <3E9C65DA.24639.FC915@localhost> References: Message-ID: <3E9D31C9.7160.476ED2@localhost> On 15 Apr 2003 at 20:04, Bryan Carbonnell wrote: > On 15 Apr 2003 at 16:51, Charlotte Foust wrote: > > > That's easy for YOU to say!! If that's the case, then why isn't > > everyone seeing this? > > Well, your problem is that you post too much :-)) > > I have gotten them for the last 2 I have posted to the main list, and > I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that I'll get one from this post too. > > All I can suggest is to set up a filter to filter any e-mail from > postmaster at primary.orridge.co.uk to the trash > Or use Pegasus Mail v4.1 to delete it server-side :-) -- Stuart McLachlan Lexacorp Ltd Application Development, IT Consultancy http://www.lexacorp.com.pg From carbonnb at sympatico.ca Tue Apr 15 19:38:57 2003 From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 20:38:57 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Enough, Already!! In-Reply-To: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D826C1@main2.marlow.com> Message-ID: <3E9C6DE1.14556.2F2486@localhost> On 15 Apr 2003 at 19:27, Drew Wutka wrote: > Sorry, been busy with salvaging my stuff! Excuses, excuses ,evilgrin. > Just unsubbed Paul Hartland, (both email addresses failed). If anyone > has another address to contact him at, let me know, so I can tell him > he's been unsubbed. Thanks Drew. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca The box said 'Requires Windows 95, NT, or better', so I installed Linux. From carbonnb at sympatico.ca Tue Apr 15 19:42:36 2003 From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 20:42:36 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Enough, Already!! In-Reply-To: <3E9D31C9.7160.476ED2@localhost> References: <3E9C65DA.24639.FC915@localhost> Message-ID: <3E9C6EBC.24013.327932@localhost> On 16 Apr 2003 at 10:34, Stuart McLachlan wrote: > On 15 Apr 2003 at 20:04, Bryan Carbonnell wrote: > > > On 15 Apr 2003 at 16:51, Charlotte Foust wrote: > > > > > That's easy for YOU to say!! If that's the case, then why isn't > > > everyone seeing this? > > > > Well, your problem is that you post too much :-)) > > All I can suggest is to set up a filter to filter any e-mail from > > postmaster at primary.orridge.co.uk to the trash > > > Or use Pegasus Mail v4.1 to delete it server-side :-) True enough. Why didn't I think of that. :-) -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca I've learned.... That the easiest way for me to grow as a person is to surround myself with people smarter than I am. From DWUTKA at marlow.com Tue Apr 15 19:43:48 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 19:43:48 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Can User Select Zoom Level on Preview? Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D826C4@main2.marlow.com> My website is down, unfortunately, so I sent you a zipped db offline. It's my Open Reports demo, which does exactly what you are asking to do. My site has an example of this on there...or at least it did a month ago, I haven't had a chance to put all my samples onto my new format.....though I'll try to do so before the 24th, which is when my DSL is supposed to be back up. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 12:58 PM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Can User Select Zoom Level on Preview? Dear List: I have a user who wants to be able to select a non-standard zoom level (85%) for his report previews. There are constants in RunCommand (acCmdZoomnn) for 10, 25, 50, 75 and 100 per cent. Is there a way to set 85% or some other value? MTIA, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From DWUTKA at marlow.com Tue Apr 15 19:47:14 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 19:47:14 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Pushing to Outlook Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D826C5@main2.marlow.com> A few things. First, you can have the users put personal contacts into their Personal Address Book (.pab files). Next, there are two ways to manipulate Outlook Contacts...one is through MAPI (or CDO), which isn't that tough, but it does require a bit of coding... The other, and I am not sure if it let's you write back to the source, but there are Add-ins for Access which let you 'link' tables to Exchange and PST files. They are available from Microsoft. Which version of Access are you using, I have the Add-in for 97. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Steve Capistrant [mailto:scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com] Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 2:14 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Pushing to Outlook Hi folks. Looking for tips on how to push contact info from Access into Outlook. What are the main elements in the Outlook object model that let me add and delete contact items from VBA in Access? (I don't currently need the ability to edit existing items -- too messy to think about for Monday). The bottom line task: delete all existing contact info from Outlook and repopulate with the fresh info from an Access db. But, the user also needs to have a way to independently manage their PERSONAL contacts without getting overwritten. Separate pst files, I imagine? Thank you.... Steve Capistrant Symphony Information Services 212 3rd Avenue North Minneapolis, MN 55401 www.symphonyinfo.com Phone: 612-333-1311 Fax: 612-333-5572 Email: scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Tue Apr 15 19:50:00 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 19:50:00 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D826C6@main2.marlow.com> Just out of curiousity, what exactly are you trying to do? If the BE tables are on a Web Server, why not let the Web Server send you just the data you need? It would be an unbound solution, but easier then trying to pull the entire table through the net! Drew -----Original Message----- From: gregg steinbrenner [mailto:greggs at msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 6:21 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet Is there any way to link BE tables on a web server to a FE on a local system? I see options for FTP connections in the link table manager but I have not been able to get them to work. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From harkins at iglou.com Tue Apr 15 19:53:53 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 20:53:53 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Enough, Already!! References: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D826BE@main2.marlow.com> Message-ID: <010201c303b2$da7ca650$324afccc@SusanOne> I haven't received the first one. Susan H. > Simple, it is sending it ONLY to the person sending the post. So everyone > posting is getting that message. (Or should be.) > From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Apr 15 22:59:48 2003 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD)) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 20:59:48 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Ruben: I think linking and binding Access tables across the web is always going to be painfully slow and unless you have a fiber connection, unrealistic. I tried that scenario, in a number of different ways, over five years ago and it was a total disaster. Without trying to ignite the bound/unbound controversy again, creating an ADO-OLE recordset framework solve the problem and, for me, made remote databases, possible. My two cents worth. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Reuben Cummings Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 9:56 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet I've done it. I'm on DSL. My ISP (and business partner) set up a folder on the server. He gave me the IP address and folder name, login and password. I simply mapped a drive to it like I would any drive. I could then link to the BE. However, the performance was terrible to the point I am now investigating replication over the DSL circuit between here and the ISP and one other office, that is also on the same DSL service, to the ISP. Reuben Cummings Director of Software Development GFC, LLC phone: 812.523.1017 email: reuben at gfconsultants.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John Frederick Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 9:30 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet Good question. I see the FTP options you're referring to in the browse window in Linked Table Manager, but that looks like the general purpose browse. If you have a permanent circuit, you could use a package named Web Drive (commercial for about $50). It maps an FTP site into your machine as a drive letter. You have to set up the connection manually, as I recall. When you refer to it in Windows Explorer, it brings the directory over into a local cache. If you reference to the mdb, it apparently copies the entire mdb into the local cache where you can reference it without network delays. If you change the cached mdb, you either have to manually request that it be paged entirely back to the remote, or that happens when you close Web Drive. I know only of a variety of kludgy partial solutions to this problem. I'll be listening to this thread for some good ideas. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of gregg steinbrenner Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 7:21 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet Is there any way to link BE tables on a web server to a FE on a local system? I see options for FTP connections in the link table manager but I have not been able to get them to work. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Now William....how long have you been writing code? > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 11:51 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters > > > "and return a 9" > > ...that's about as close to mud as you can get ...how did you arrive at the > "9"? :( > > William Hindman > "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund > Burke > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 12:00 PM > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters > > > > I think if there was a way to incorporate the Like operator with the InStr > > function then my problem would be solved. > > > > Let me explain what I'm doing and maybe someone will have suggestion for a > > better way of doing it. > > > > My client sends a text file of invoices to a Railroad (RR) company. This > RR > > requires a specific file format for their billing system to import the > > invoices. My client has tried working with their accounting software > people > > to get the format they need but they say they have done what they need to > do > > so if it requires more coding they will do at a fee of $250 per hour and > > quoted 25 hours (great money if you can get it). > > > > Anyway, I'm taking the text file the accounting software creates which is > > close to what is needed, and making the few more changes to it to make it > > compatible with the RR company. So far, I've discoved that by searching > the > > file for certain strings, I can replace that string with something else. > > It's been fairly simple up to this point since the strings I'm searching > for > > have all been static. I'm storing the strings to search for and replace > > with in a table so if something changes they just adjust the strings in > the > > table and away we go. > > > > Now we have a change where the portion of the file I need to change > includes > > a date which changes with each new file. Now, I could have the client > > change the date in the searchfor string each time they run the program for > a > > new file but it would be really nice if I could have a function search for > > "N1~GA~????????" (where the ?'s represent a date in yyyymmdd format)in > this > > string "REF~03~!N1~GA~20020414" and return a 9. > > > > Clear as mud? > > > > Rusty > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mike and Doris Manning [mailto:mikedorism at ntelos.net] > > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 10:20 AM > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters > > > > > > How about InStr function? > > > > Doris Manning > > Database Administrator > > Hargrove Inc. > > www.hargroveinc.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > > rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com > > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 10:57 AM > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: [AccessD] Search for string with wildcard characters > > > > > > Does anyone have any code that will search a string variable for a string > > that includes wildcard characters and returns the location? > > > > ie > > strVariable="This is a test" > > search strVariable for "te??" returns 11 > > > > > > Rusty > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From thevigil at kabelfoon.nl Wed Apr 16 03:49:16 2003 From: thevigil at kabelfoon.nl (Bert-Jan Brinkhuis) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 10:49:16 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] OT: PHP list References: <3E9C5B14.215.9E9945@localhost> Message-ID: <008601c303f5$11911ee0$115b2d3e@jester> Bryan and Arthur, thanks for the info. I'll check it out. If i think the volume is too high i can always unsubscribe... ;-) Bert-Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Carbonnell" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 1:18 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: PHP list > On 15 Apr 2003 at 23:02, Bert-Jan Brinkhuis wrote: > > > I am looking into PHP (and maybe MYSQL). Does anyone know a list for > > PHP as good as this list? > > Bert-Jan > > For PHP lists, have a look at: > http://www.php.net/mailing-lists.php > > The General user list is top notch. One word of caution. It is a HIGH > volume list. 100-200 posts a day are not uncommon, or at least > weren't when I was subscribed. But the calibre of the folks there is > probably second to none. > > As for MySQLlook at: > http://www.mysql.com/documentation/lists.php > > mysql at lists.mysql.com is the main list. Again high volume, 150+ not > uncommon, or at least when I was subscribed. > > -- > Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca > I used to have a handle on life, but it broke. > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From joeget at vgernet.net Wed Apr 16 04:43:45 2003 From: joeget at vgernet.net (John Eget) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 05:43:45 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] autonumber Message-ID: <015601c303fc$c8f90230$87c2f63f@Desktop> Is there a way to reset the autonumber to 1 of a make table query or an append or a table I just finished deleting the information from? John -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thevigil at kabelfoon.nl Wed Apr 16 04:51:41 2003 From: thevigil at kabelfoon.nl (Bert-Jan Brinkhuis) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 11:51:41 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] autonumber References: <015601c303fc$c8f90230$87c2f63f@Desktop> Message-ID: <000f01c303fd$c9642aa0$115b2d3e@jester> John, when all records have been deleted from a table and you compact and repair i know that in A2K the autonumber will start again with 1. Don't know about make table query's Bert-Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: John Eget To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 11:43 AM Subject: [AccessD] autonumber Is there a way to reset the autonumber to 1 of a make table query or an append or a table I just finished deleting the information from? John _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Wed Apr 16 05:02:12 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 05:02:12 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] autonumber Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82745@main2.marlow.com> A make table query should already 'reset' the AutoNumber, since it is going to make a new table. An append query can be used to 'set' numbers within an AutoNumber field, however, it doesn't reset the counter, it can just 'ignore' it. If you delete the data in a table, to resent the AutoNumber counter, compact the database. It will reset the counter (on an incremental AN) to the highest number plus 1 (or 1, if there are no records remaining). Drew -----Original Message----- From: John Eget To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Sent: 4/16/03 4:43 AM Subject: [AccessD] autonumber Is there a way to reset the autonumber to 1 of a make table query or an append or a table I just finished deleting the information from? John <> From nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us Wed Apr 16 07:05:17 2003 From: nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us (Neal Kling) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 08:05:17 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Message-ID: <0EAA9F4906BA554FA26E6F9F2C5403022BD54B@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us> Charlotte, I only used the .caption as an example. The point is that you cannot reference multiple forms in the Forms collection by name. If you try to, you can only see the properties of the first one. The fact that you can still reference them by ordinal number is exactly what I'm trying to say. Neal Kling Lotus, isn't that some kind of fancy flower? -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 4:23 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) When you use For Each frm in Forms, you're iterating through the members of the collection of open forms and you're going by index rather than by name. That's the equivalent of Forms(0), Forms(1), etc., not Forms("frmMyForm"), although you're free to address them using the numeric index ... if you know which one you need. Why would you expect the caption to give you meaningful results? That is not a difference in the name of the form, and anyhow you aren't looking for a different form, you just want a particular instance of that form; so if you can create a key that will get you there, why not use it? Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Neal Kling [mailto:nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 11:04 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Sure, in our own collection, but that's not the Access Forms collection, which by the way does add a reference to the multiple forms, but all the instances of the same form share the same name. So, while we can't use Debug.Print Forms("frmMyForm").Caption and expect to get meaningful results, we can use 'For Each frm In Forms....' Neal Kling Lotus, isn't that some kind of fancy flower? -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 2:27 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Actually, you could use the name plus an incremental number as the key when you add the item to the collection, but it is natural that you can't address it the conventional way if you have multiple instances open. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:18 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Thanks Neal. I have ADH 97. I'll try and wrestle it off my colleague!! -----Original Message----- From: Neal Kling [mailto:nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us] Sent: 15-Apr-2003 14:01 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) I adapted code from ADH that worked well. Basically you declare a form variable as Form_MyForm and work with it. They use a collection to hold pointers to the instances of a form and code to add and remove items from the collection. The one hitch that I quickly hit was that you can't reference your form by name, in other words you can't use Forms!MyForm. If you don't have ADH I could probably put something together for you. Neal Kling Lotus, isn't that some kind of fancy flower? -----Original Message----- From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 8:41 AM To: AccessD (AccessD at databaseadvisors.com) Subject: [AccessD] Form instances (AXP) Hi all Does anyone know where there is any documentation on opening multiple instances of a form? I can't find anything in the help file or on MSDN. TIA Roz _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Wed Apr 16 07:29:28 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 07:29:28 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Enough, Already!! Message-ID: Charlotte, Didn't you see my message yesterday to call Scotland Yard because somebody had killed the administrator at orridge.co.uk? Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 15 18:51 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Enough, Already!! That's easy for YOU to say!! If that's the case, then why isn't everyone seeing this? Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Carbonnell [mailto:carbonnb at sympatico.ca] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 3:41 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Enough, Already!! On 15 Apr 2003 at 16:35, Charlotte Foust wrote: > Gah!! Even this message also got a bounce! > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charlotte Foust > OK, who is administrator at orridge.co.uk when he's at home and why > doesn't he like my email? I keep getting these bounces, and I promise > you, I'm sending in text. Charlotte, It's not because they don't like you or you plain text e-mails ('cause they are plain text), but that administrator account no longer exists on their system and whom ever was subscribed at that address didn't bother unsubbing before they nuke the account. It's got nohting to do with you. Really it doesn't. :-) -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca I've learned.... That having a child fall asleep in your arms is one of the most peaceful feelings in the world. From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Wed Apr 16 07:38:28 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 07:38:28 -0500 Subject: OT: Bryan's good tag line - was RE: [AccessD] Enough, Already!! Message-ID: "Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca I've learned.... That the easiest way for me to grow as a person is to surround myself with people smarter than I am." Bryan, I like the above tag line. What it says is the reason I subscribe to this list. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Wed Apr 16 07:46:11 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 07:46:11 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] autonumber Message-ID: John, I cannot let this pass without asking why do you care? You are not committing the cardinal sin of allowing you users to see the autonumber field are you? If so, check the archives on why this is a cardinal sin. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 16 05:02 To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com ' Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber A make table query should already 'reset' the AutoNumber, since it is going to make a new table. An append query can be used to 'set' numbers within an AutoNumber field, however, it doesn't reset the counter, it can just 'ignore' it. If you delete the data in a table, to resent the AutoNumber counter, compact the database. It will reset the counter (on an incremental AN) to the highest number plus 1 (or 1, if there are no records remaining). Drew -----Original Message----- From: John Eget To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Sent: 4/16/03 4:43 AM Subject: [AccessD] autonumber Is there a way to reset the autonumber to 1 of a make table query or an append or a table I just finished deleting the information from? John <> From reische at mdh.org Wed Apr 16 08:11:59 2003 From: reische at mdh.org (Reische, Brenda L.) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 08:11:59 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] autonumber Message-ID: <0FFC98AA5943D211A2E90000F87A5B48C86D4D@NEWMAN_EXC> Charles, The archives appear to be down right now. Care to enlighten me? I let the users see the autonumber field. In my ambulance services database, that is the unique run id number that we use - it prints on the medical record and everything... Why is this a cardinal sin? Thanks, Brenda Reische McDonough District Hospital -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:46 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber John, I cannot let this pass without asking why do you care? You are not committing the cardinal sin of allowing you users to see the autonumber field are you? If so, check the archives on why this is a cardinal sin. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 16 05:02 To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com ' Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber A make table query should already 'reset' the AutoNumber, since it is going to make a new table. An append query can be used to 'set' numbers within an AutoNumber field, however, it doesn't reset the counter, it can just 'ignore' it. If you delete the data in a table, to resent the AutoNumber counter, compact the database. It will reset the counter (on an incremental AN) to the highest number plus 1 (or 1, if there are no records remaining). Drew -----Original Message----- From: John Eget To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Sent: 4/16/03 4:43 AM Subject: [AccessD] autonumber Is there a way to reset the autonumber to 1 of a make table query or an append or a table I just finished deleting the information from? John <> _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From delliker at hotmail.com Wed Apr 16 08:29:50 2003 From: delliker at hotmail.com (Don Elliker) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 09:29:50 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] autonumber Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com Wed Apr 16 08:50:29 2003 From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 09:50:29 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Multiselect List box Message-ID: I am working on a program in A2K, and I may have a need to use a multiselect list box. Actually, I think it would be best, because the choice have the potential to be altered in the future. However, I have never used multiselects before, and I am wondering how much trouble I'm getting into. I am all for diving in and learning something new, but I am really pressed for time here...this program must be put into operation by May 1st, and I am also playing a major part of moving an office of 200+ people to a new building, which starts on the 24th...I have to move and setup their server and all routers. Should I just make the check boxes for now? Or are the multiselects easier than I am making them out to be? I don't think I'd have a problem with their actual setup, but taking the selections and putting them into the table is where I am a little confused. Thanks! John W Clark From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Wed Apr 16 09:09:38 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 09:09:38 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] autonumber Message-ID: Brenda, M$ only guarantees that an autonumber will be unique. It does not guarantee that it will increment by one each time. Users, and especially auditors, will question you as to why there are gaps in the numbering scheme. What are you going to say when the auditors ask you where is the paperwork for the missing numbers? Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Reische, Brenda L. [mailto:reische at mdh.org] Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 16 08:12 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber Charles, The archives appear to be down right now. Care to enlighten me? I let the users see the autonumber field. In my ambulance services database, that is the unique run id number that we use - it prints on the medical record and everything... Why is this a cardinal sin? Thanks, Brenda Reische McDonough District Hospital -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:46 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber John, I cannot let this pass without asking why do you care? You are not committing the cardinal sin of allowing you users to see the autonumber field are you? If so, check the archives on why this is a cardinal sin. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 16 05:02 To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com ' Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber A make table query should already 'reset' the AutoNumber, since it is going to make a new table. An append query can be used to 'set' numbers within an AutoNumber field, however, it doesn't reset the counter, it can just 'ignore' it. If you delete the data in a table, to resent the AutoNumber counter, compact the database. It will reset the counter (on an incremental AN) to the highest number plus 1 (or 1, if there are no records remaining). Drew -----Original Message----- From: John Eget To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Sent: 4/16/03 4:43 AM Subject: [AccessD] autonumber Is there a way to reset the autonumber to 1 of a make table query or an append or a table I just finished deleting the information from? John <> From harkins at iglou.com Wed Apr 16 09:20:25 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 10:20:25 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] odd index problem Message-ID: <038f01c30423$5524d6f0$324afccc@SusanOne> I've noticed something weird with indexes on two different systems using Access 2002 and Access 2003. When I create a primary key using the Primary Key tool, Access creates two indexes instead of one. I've tested it a number of times using different scenarios and I can't seem to shake it. Does this happen with anyone else? Martin checked and says no -- he only gets the one index as expected. Create a simple table with a couple of fields and create a primary key on one of the fields. Check the indexes window. I end up with the following: TestID TestID Ascending PrimaryKey TestID Ascending The index for TestID has all properties set to No. The PrimaryKey index is as it should be -- Yes, Yes, No. There are no other tables, no relationships, no foreign keys in the sample. Nothing else happens -- blank database, quick table... there they are. Susan H. From jim.hale at fleetpride.com Wed Apr 16 09:19:03 2003 From: jim.hale at fleetpride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 09:19:03 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] autonumber Message-ID: <869379ABF177D4118D3100508B5EF87305B5B58B@corp-es00> But first make sure you have LOTS of bandwidth to download the "discussions" ;-) Jim Hale -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:46 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber John, I cannot let this pass without asking why do you care? You are not committing the cardinal sin of allowing you users to see the autonumber field are you? If so, check the archives on why this is a cardinal sin. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 16 05:02 To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com ' Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber A make table query should already 'reset' the AutoNumber, since it is going to make a new table. An append query can be used to 'set' numbers within an AutoNumber field, however, it doesn't reset the counter, it can just 'ignore' it. If you delete the data in a table, to resent the AutoNumber counter, compact the database. It will reset the counter (on an incremental AN) to the highest number plus 1 (or 1, if there are no records remaining). Drew -----Original Message----- From: John Eget To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Sent: 4/16/03 4:43 AM Subject: [AccessD] autonumber Is there a way to reset the autonumber to 1 of a make table query or an append or a table I just finished deleting the information from? John <> _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From harkins at iglou.com Wed Apr 16 09:26:47 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 10:26:47 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] autonumber References: Message-ID: <03af01c30424$39707170$324afccc@SusanOne> Why would auditors care about the AutoNumber? It isn't a purchase number or anything like that... just an internal numbering system. If you use it to create purchase order numbers, well... you might be in trouble, but otherwise, can't see why anyone but the developer would care, even if they can see it. Course, then you get the oddball client that swears you're losing records and won't listen... no matter what you say... Susan H. > Brenda, > > M$ only guarantees that an autonumber will be unique. It does not > guarantee that it will increment by one each time. Users, and > especially auditors, will question you as to why there are gaps in the > numbering scheme. What are you going to say when the auditors ask you > where is the paperwork for the missing numbers? > > Charles Wortz > Software Development Division > Texas Education Agency > 1701 N. Congress Ave > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > 512-463-9493 > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Reische, Brenda L. [mailto:reische at mdh.org] > Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 16 08:12 > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber > > Charles, > The archives appear to be down right now. Care to enlighten me? I let > the users see the autonumber field. In my ambulance services database, > that is the unique run id number that we use - it prints on the medical > record and > everything... Why is this a cardinal sin? > > Thanks, > Brenda Reische > McDonough District Hospital > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:46 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber > > John, > > I cannot let this pass without asking why do you care? You are not > committing the cardinal sin of allowing you users to see the autonumber > field are you? If so, check the archives on why this is a > cardinal sin. > > Charles Wortz > Software Development Division > Texas Education Agency > 1701 N. Congress Ave > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > 512-463-9493 > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] > Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 16 05:02 > To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com ' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber > > A make table query should already 'reset' the AutoNumber, since it is > going to make a new table. An append query can be used to 'set' numbers > within an AutoNumber field, however, it doesn't reset the counter, it > can just 'ignore' it. If you delete the data in a table, to resent the > AutoNumber counter, compact the database. It will reset the counter (on > an incremental > AN) to the highest number plus 1 (or 1, if there are no records > remaining). > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Eget > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > Sent: 4/16/03 4:43 AM > Subject: [AccessD] autonumber > > Is there a way to reset the autonumber to 1 of a make table query or an > append or a table I just finished deleting the information from? John > <> > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From Jdemarco at hshhp.org Wed Apr 16 09:27:18 2003 From: Jdemarco at hshhp.org (Jim DeMarco) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 10:27:18 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] odd index problem Message-ID: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F99D859C0@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com> FWIW I've seen that behavior in A97 too. Jim DeMarco -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 10:20 AM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] odd index problem I've noticed something weird with indexes on two different systems using Access 2002 and Access 2003. When I create a primary key using the Primary Key tool, Access creates two indexes instead of one. I've tested it a number of times using different scenarios and I can't seem to shake it. Does this happen with anyone else? Martin checked and says no -- he only gets the one index as expected. Create a simple table with a couple of fields and create a primary key on one of the fields. Check the indexes window. I end up with the following: TestID TestID Ascending PrimaryKey TestID Ascending The index for TestID has all properties set to No. The PrimaryKey index is as it should be -- Yes, Yes, No. There are no other tables, no relationships, no foreign keys in the sample. Nothing else happens -- blank database, quick table... there they are. Susan H. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com *********************************************************************************** "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only of the named recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error or are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this message. Thank You". *********************************************************************************** From reische at mdh.org Wed Apr 16 09:27:54 2003 From: reische at mdh.org (Reische, Brenda L.) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 09:27:54 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] autonumber Message-ID: <0FFC98AA5943D211A2E90000F87A5B48C86D50@NEWMAN_EXC> That is not an issue for us. I only care that they are unique. There doesn't have to be an audit trail of contiguous numbers for our application of the db. It is simply the record number in the database for users to open and modify, guaranteeing them that the record they are on is the correct database record - believe it or not, there are many frequent flyers in ambulances, even more than one trip on the same day. If there is a problem with a database record, the users call down and identify the issue with the RunID. They figure if there are missing record numbers (not that they notice) it is because I was entering records testing a new feature I'm working on. By state law we are required to submit records (currently hard copy) that have the state's numbering scheme, so that is what anyone interested would reference. The database has been live with the RunID visible for over six years, and we've never had an issue (I've only been here 3 -- inherited it...). I will keep that in mind, though, for the future. Thanks, Brenda Reische McDonough District Hospital -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 9:10 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber Brenda, M$ only guarantees that an autonumber will be unique. It does not guarantee that it will increment by one each time. Users, and especially auditors, will question you as to why there are gaps in the numbering scheme. What are you going to say when the auditors ask you where is the paperwork for the missing numbers? Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Reische, Brenda L. [mailto:reische at mdh.org] Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 16 08:12 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber Charles, The archives appear to be down right now. Care to enlighten me? I let the users see the autonumber field. In my ambulance services database, that is the unique run id number that we use - it prints on the medical record and everything... Why is this a cardinal sin? Thanks, Brenda Reische McDonough District Hospital -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:46 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber John, I cannot let this pass without asking why do you care? You are not committing the cardinal sin of allowing you users to see the autonumber field are you? If so, check the archives on why this is a cardinal sin. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 16 05:02 To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com ' Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber A make table query should already 'reset' the AutoNumber, since it is going to make a new table. An append query can be used to 'set' numbers within an AutoNumber field, however, it doesn't reset the counter, it can just 'ignore' it. If you delete the data in a table, to resent the AutoNumber counter, compact the database. It will reset the counter (on an incremental AN) to the highest number plus 1 (or 1, if there are no records remaining). Drew -----Original Message----- From: John Eget To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Sent: 4/16/03 4:43 AM Subject: [AccessD] autonumber Is there a way to reset the autonumber to 1 of a make table query or an append or a table I just finished deleting the information from? John <> _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From harkins at iglou.com Wed Apr 16 09:40:15 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 10:40:15 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] odd index problem References: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F99D859C0@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com> Message-ID: <03f901c30426$1a648710$324afccc@SusanOne> Glad to know I'm not nuts. :) Well... that's not really proof, but I'll take what I can get! ;) Susan H. > FWIW I've seen that behavior in A97 too. > From jim.hale at fleetpride.com Wed Apr 16 09:46:26 2003 From: jim.hale at fleetpride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 09:46:26 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] autonumber Message-ID: <869379ABF177D4118D3100508B5EF87305B5B597@corp-es00> It goes back to the old paper days when PO's, invoices, etc were uniquely numbered. For control purposes every copy had to be accounted for. Many software programs carried over this convention from the paper world. If a number is missing from a document series the audit question becomes "what happened to it?." While this may have been a relevant question in paper days it has become less meaningful as accounting software has evolved away from a strict adherence to the paper paradigm. In any case, as JC has pointed out many times, the auto number should remain under the hood. It is database structure stuff with which the user doesn't need to bother himself. The invoice or PO number shown to the user should be handled separately so that database structure remains separate from accounting needs. Jim Hale -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 9:27 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] autonumber Why would auditors care about the AutoNumber? It isn't a purchase number or anything like that... just an internal numbering system. If you use it to create purchase order numbers, well... you might be in trouble, but otherwise, can't see why anyone but the developer would care, even if they can see it. Course, then you get the oddball client that swears you're losing records and won't listen... no matter what you say... Susan H. > Brenda, > > M$ only guarantees that an autonumber will be unique. It does not > guarantee that it will increment by one each time. Users, and > especially auditors, will question you as to why there are gaps in the > numbering scheme. What are you going to say when the auditors ask you > where is the paperwork for the missing numbers? > > Charles Wortz > Software Development Division > Texas Education Agency > 1701 N. Congress Ave > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > 512-463-9493 > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Reische, Brenda L. [mailto:reische at mdh.org] > Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 16 08:12 > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber > > Charles, > The archives appear to be down right now. Care to enlighten me? I let > the users see the autonumber field. In my ambulance services database, > that is the unique run id number that we use - it prints on the medical > record and > everything... Why is this a cardinal sin? > > Thanks, > Brenda Reische > McDonough District Hospital > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:46 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber > > John, > > I cannot let this pass without asking why do you care? You are not > committing the cardinal sin of allowing you users to see the autonumber > field are you? If so, check the archives on why this is a > cardinal sin. > > Charles Wortz > Software Development Division > Texas Education Agency > 1701 N. Congress Ave > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > 512-463-9493 > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] > Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 16 05:02 > To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com ' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber > > A make table query should already 'reset' the AutoNumber, since it is > going to make a new table. An append query can be used to 'set' numbers > within an AutoNumber field, however, it doesn't reset the counter, it > can just 'ignore' it. If you delete the data in a table, to resent the > AutoNumber counter, compact the database. It will reset the counter (on > an incremental > AN) to the highest number plus 1 (or 1, if there are no records > remaining). > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Eget > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > Sent: 4/16/03 4:43 AM > Subject: [AccessD] autonumber > > Is there a way to reset the autonumber to 1 of a make table query or an > append or a table I just finished deleting the information from? John > <> > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reuben at gfconsultants.com Wed Apr 16 09:49:07 2003 From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 09:49:07 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Good point, Eric. Thanks for covering my over sight. Reuben Cummings Director of Software Development GFC, LLC phone: 812.523.1017 email: reuben at gfconsultants.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Eric Barro Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 1:46 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet Unfortunately to get to a share over TCPIP (without the VPN) you need to turn on NETBIOS over TCPIP and it can potentially be a security hole. --- Eric Barro Senior Systems Analyst Advanced Field Services (208) 772-7060 http://www.afsweb.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 10:07 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet Cool stuff. I have done the drive mapping to a remote folder using vpn before, but never considered linking to a table in a db on the other end. I can see how it would be a bit slow, particularly over DSL. If you use a vpn, there is a TON of added overhead to the data transmitted back and forth John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Reuben Cummings Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:56 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet I've done it. I'm on DSL. My ISP (and business partner) set up a folder on the server. He gave me the IP address and folder name, login and password. I simply mapped a drive to it like I would any drive. I could then link to the BE. However, the performance was terrible to the point I am now investigating replication over the DSL circuit between here and the ISP and one other office, that is also on the same DSL service, to the ISP. Reuben Cummings Director of Software Development GFC, LLC phone: 812.523.1017 email: reuben at gfconsultants.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John Frederick Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 9:30 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet Good question. I see the FTP options you're referring to in the browse window in Linked Table Manager, but that looks like the general purpose browse. If you have a permanent circuit, you could use a package named Web Drive (commercial for about $50). It maps an FTP site into your machine as a drive letter. You have to set up the connection manually, as I recall. When you refer to it in Windows Explorer, it brings the directory over into a local cache. If you reference to the mdb, it apparently copies the entire mdb into the local cache where you can reference it without network delays. If you change the cached mdb, you either have to manually request that it be paged entirely back to the remote, or that happens when you close Web Drive. I know only of a variety of kludgy partial solutions to this problem. I'll be listening to this thread for some good ideas. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of gregg steinbrenner Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 7:21 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet Is there any way to link BE tables on a web server to a FE on a local system? 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Reuben Cummings Director of Software Development GFC, LLC phone: 812.523.1017 email: reuben at gfconsultants.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence (AccessD) Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 11:00 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet Hi Ruben: I think linking and binding Access tables across the web is always going to be painfully slow and unless you have a fiber connection, unrealistic. I tried that scenario, in a number of different ways, over five years ago and it was a total disaster. Without trying to ignite the bound/unbound controversy again, creating an ADO-OLE recordset framework solve the problem and, for me, made remote databases, possible. My two cents worth. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Reuben Cummings Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 9:56 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet I've done it. I'm on DSL. My ISP (and business partner) set up a folder on the server. He gave me the IP address and folder name, login and password. I simply mapped a drive to it like I would any drive. I could then link to the BE. However, the performance was terrible to the point I am now investigating replication over the DSL circuit between here and the ISP and one other office, that is also on the same DSL service, to the ISP. Reuben Cummings Director of Software Development GFC, LLC phone: 812.523.1017 email: reuben at gfconsultants.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John Frederick Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 9:30 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet Good question. I see the FTP options you're referring to in the browse window in Linked Table Manager, but that looks like the general purpose browse. If you have a permanent circuit, you could use a package named Web Drive (commercial for about $50). It maps an FTP site into your machine as a drive letter. You have to set up the connection manually, as I recall. When you refer to it in Windows Explorer, it brings the directory over into a local cache. If you reference to the mdb, it apparently copies the entire mdb into the local cache where you can reference it without network delays. If you change the cached mdb, you either have to manually request that it be paged entirely back to the remote, or that happens when you close Web Drive. I know only of a variety of kludgy partial solutions to this problem. I'll be listening to this thread for some good ideas. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of gregg steinbrenner Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 7:21 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet Is there any way to link BE tables on a web server to a FE on a local system? I see options for FTP connections in the link table manager but I have not been able to get them to work. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From garykjos at hotmail.com Wed Apr 16 09:52:41 2003 From: garykjos at hotmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 09:52:41 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] odd index problem Message-ID: Hi Susan, Not a problem, a feature. Go to Options then Tables/Queries and see what you have in the "Auto Index on Import/Create" box..... I bet "ID" is listed. If so, as soon as you create a field with the letters "ID" in it it makes an index. Then when you select the primary key it creates a second one. I've deleted all the values from that option myself as I prefer to only have indexes that I choose. Gary Kjos garykjos at hotmail.com >From: "Susan Harkins" >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >To: >Subject: [AccessD] odd index problem >Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 10:20:25 -0400 > >I've noticed something weird with indexes on two different systems using >Access 2002 and Access 2003. When I create a primary key using the Primary >Key tool, Access creates two indexes instead of one. I've tested it a >number >of times using different scenarios and I can't seem to shake it. Does this >happen with anyone else? Martin checked and says no -- he only gets the one >index as expected. > >Create a simple table with a couple of fields and create a primary key on >one of the fields. Check the indexes window. I end up with the following: > >TestID TestID Ascending >PrimaryKey TestID Ascending > >The index for TestID has all properties set to No. The PrimaryKey index is >as it should be -- Yes, Yes, No. > >There are no other tables, no relationships, no foreign keys in the sample. >Nothing else happens -- blank database, quick table... there they are. > >Susan H. > >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From harkins at iglou.com Wed Apr 16 10:02:52 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 11:02:52 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] autonumber References: <869379ABF177D4118D3100508B5EF87305B5B597@corp-es00> Message-ID: <045901c30429$43cdd900$324afccc@SusanOne> RE: [AccessD] autonumberI understand that -- I'm just saying, there's no reason to use the AutoNumber for this -- almost all of these numbering schemes come from someplace else, not the application -- purchase orders are printed externally -- well, I believe they are in most businesses. I'm saying, the AutoNumber is irrelevant to the function -- it's used by Jet -- not the purchase ordere -- at least it shouldn't be a purchase order number or anything like that. Have I been away from real business for so long that people are printing up their own purchase order forms, etc. using Access?????????????????? I'm just having trouble visualizing this is all. Susan H. ----- Original Message ----- From: Hale, Jim To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 10:46 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber It goes back to the old paper days when PO's, invoices, etc were uniquely numbered. For control purposes every copy had to be accounted for. Many software programs carried over this convention from the paper world. If a number is missing from a document series the audit question becomes "what happened to it?." While this may have been a relevant question in paper days it has become less meaningful as accounting software has evolved away from a strict adherence to the paper paradigm. In any case, as JC has pointed out many times, the auto number should remain under the hood. It is database structure stuff with which the user doesn't need to bother himself. The invoice or PO number shown to the user should be handled separately so that database structure remains separate from accounting needs. Jim Hale -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 9:27 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] autonumber Why would auditors care about the AutoNumber? It isn't a purchase number or anything like that... just an internal numbering system. If you use it to create purchase order numbers, well... you might be in trouble, but otherwise, can't see why anyone but the developer would care, even if they can see it. Course, then you get the oddball client that swears you're losing records and won't listen... no matter what you say... Susan H. > Brenda, > > M$ only guarantees that an autonumber will be unique. It does not > guarantee that it will increment by one each time. Users, and > especially auditors, will question you as to why there are gaps in the > numbering scheme. What are you going to say when the auditors ask you > where is the paperwork for the missing numbers? > > Charles Wortz > Software Development Division > Texas Education Agency > 1701 N. Congress Ave > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > 512-463-9493 > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Reische, Brenda L. [mailto:reische at mdh.org] > Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 16 08:12 > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber > > Charles, > The archives appear to be down right now. Care to enlighten me? I let > the users see the autonumber field. In my ambulance services database, > that is the unique run id number that we use - it prints on the medical > record and > everything... Why is this a cardinal sin? > > Thanks, > Brenda Reische > McDonough District Hospital > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:46 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber > > John, > > I cannot let this pass without asking why do you care? You are not > committing the cardinal sin of allowing you users to see the autonumber > field are you? If so, check the archives on why this is a > cardinal sin. > > Charles Wortz > Software Development Division > Texas Education Agency > 1701 N. Congress Ave > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > 512-463-9493 > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] > Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 16 05:02 > To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com ' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber > > A make table query should already 'reset' the AutoNumber, since it is > going to make a new table. An append query can be used to 'set' numbers > within an AutoNumber field, however, it doesn't reset the counter, it > can just 'ignore' it. If you delete the data in a table, to resent the > AutoNumber counter, compact the database. It will reset the counter (on > an incremental > AN) to the highest number plus 1 (or 1, if there are no records > remaining). > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Eget > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > Sent: 4/16/03 4:43 AM > Subject: [AccessD] autonumber > > Is there a way to reset the autonumber to 1 of a make table query or an > append or a table I just finished deleting the information from? 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URL: From harkins at iglou.com Wed Apr 16 10:12:07 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 11:12:07 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] odd index problem References: Message-ID: <049301c3042a$8cc1bb30$324afccc@SusanOne> AHA! Eurkea! Brilliant! :) Thanks Gary. Susan H. > Hi Susan, > > Not a problem, a feature. > > Go to Options then Tables/Queries and see what you have in the "Auto Index > on Import/Create" box..... I bet "ID" is listed. If so, as soon as you > create a field with the letters "ID" in it it makes an index. Then when you > select the primary key it creates a second one. > > I've deleted all the values from that option myself as I prefer to only have > indexes that I choose. > > Gary Kjos > garykjos at hotmail.com > > > > > > >From: "Susan Harkins" > >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > >To: > >Subject: [AccessD] odd index problem > >Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 10:20:25 -0400 > > > >I've noticed something weird with indexes on two different systems using > >Access 2002 and Access 2003. When I create a primary key using the Primary > >Key tool, Access creates two indexes instead of one. I've tested it a > >number > >of times using different scenarios and I can't seem to shake it. Does this > >happen with anyone else? Martin checked and says no -- he only gets the one > >index as expected. > > > >Create a simple table with a couple of fields and create a primary key on > >one of the fields. Check the indexes window. I end up with the following: > > > >TestID TestID Ascending > >PrimaryKey TestID Ascending > > > >The index for TestID has all properties set to No. The PrimaryKey index is > >as it should be -- Yes, Yes, No. > > > >There are no other tables, no relationships, no foreign keys in the sample. > >Nothing else happens -- blank database, quick table... there they are. > > > >Susan H. > > > >_______________________________________________ > >AccessD mailing list > >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _________________________________________________________________ > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru Wed Apr 16 10:10:59 2003 From: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 19:10:59 +0400 Subject: [AccessD] odd index problem References: <038f01c30423$5524d6f0$324afccc@SusanOne> Message-ID: <005201c3042c$0d27cc50$b501010a@DAISY.local> Susan, Have a look at the settings you have in Tools->Options->Tables/Queries->AutoIndex On Import/Create... HTH, Shamil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Harkins" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 6:20 PM Subject: [AccessD] odd index problem > I've noticed something weird with indexes on two different systems using > Access 2002 and Access 2003. When I create a primary key using the Primary > Key tool, Access creates two indexes instead of one. I've tested it a number > of times using different scenarios and I can't seem to shake it. Does this > happen with anyone else? Martin checked and says no -- he only gets the one > index as expected. > > Create a simple table with a couple of fields and create a primary key on > one of the fields. Check the indexes window. I end up with the following: > > TestID TestID Ascending > PrimaryKey TestID Ascending > > The index for TestID has all properties set to No. The PrimaryKey index is > as it should be -- Yes, Yes, No. > > There are no other tables, no relationships, no foreign keys in the sample. > Nothing else happens -- blank database, quick table... there they are. > > Susan H. > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Jdemarco at hshhp.org Wed Apr 16 10:27:23 2003 From: Jdemarco at hshhp.org (Jim DeMarco) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 11:27:23 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Multiselect List box Message-ID: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F99D859CD@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com> John, I normally use a hidden text box (that's bound to a data field) to store a delimited string containing the selected list item identifiers. With every click on the list I repopulate the text box with all selected item identifiers. When navigating to a new record you need to parse the data field containing the delimited string, looping through the delimited values and selecting the list items accordingly. I can send you sample code (no db though) to give you an idea if you like (off-line request only). Thanks, Jim DeMarco Director of Product Development HealthSource/Hudson Health Plan -----Original Message----- From: John Clark [mailto:John.Clark at niagaracounty.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 9:50 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Multiselect List box I am working on a program in A2K, and I may have a need to use a multiselect list box. Actually, I think it would be best, because the choice have the potential to be altered in the future. However, I have never used multiselects before, and I am wondering how much trouble I'm getting into. I am all for diving in and learning something new, but I am really pressed for time here...this program must be put into operation by May 1st, and I am also playing a major part of moving an office of 200+ people to a new building, which starts on the 24th...I have to move and setup their server and all routers. Should I just make the check boxes for now? Or are the multiselects easier than I am making them out to be? I don't think I'd have a problem with their actual setup, but taking the selections and putting them into the table is where I am a little confused. Thanks! 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Thank You". *********************************************************************************** From shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru Wed Apr 16 10:37:07 2003 From: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 19:37:07 +0400 Subject: [AccessD] Error -2147319779: Method 'Name' of object 'Reference' failed References: Message-ID: <009701c3042e$0e645910$b501010a@DAISY.local> THNX for the info, Mark! I've also searched Google before I posted to AccessD and I've seen that info. The problem is that the subject error happens on the customer's not mine PC and they seems to be not that proficient with regsvr32 etc. - and I've to find first of all a reasonable explanation why they get the subject error - it happens when our compiled .mda (A2K) code refers to the Application.Reference or CommandBar(s) objects - and this error appears only in rare cases i.e. not on all customers PCs... Shamil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mitsules, Mark" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 11:52 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error -2147319779: Method 'Name' of object 'Reference' failed > Shamil, > > Here are a few things I found doing a Google search. > > Error List from WINERROR.H > The following table describes the error codes contained in Winerror.h > > Error/Dec. Error/Hex Error Description > -2147319779 (8002801D) Library not registered. > > > I would try registering these .dll's as well as the main ADO DAO references > before a reinstall. > regsvr32 vbscript.dll > regsvr32 jscript.dll > > > Microsoft Data Access 2.7: > http://download.microsoft.com/download/MDAC26/Refresh/2.0/W98NT42KMeXP/EN-US > /MDAC_TYP.EXE > Microsoft Jet 4.0 Service Pack 6 (SP6). > http://download.microsoft.com/download/Jet40/SP/4.0.6226/W9XNT4/EN-US/Jet40S > P6_9xNT.exe > Visual Basic Runtime: > http://download.microsoft.com/download/vb60pro/Redist/sp5/WIN98Me/EN-US/vbru > n60sp5.exe > > > > Mark > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Shamil Salakhetdinov [mailto:shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru] > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 1:49 PM > To: AccessD > Subject: [AccessD] Error -2147319779: Method 'Name' of object 'Reference' > failed > > > Hi All, > > Have anybody met with the subject error with Access2000 and most probably > Win98? If yes, what was a solution - just reinstall MS Access/MS Office or > even install the latest MDAC as it's recommended here - > http://www.recsnet.com/support/misc/mdac.htm? > > TIA for any info on the subject error, > Shamil > > -- > e-mail: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru > Web: http://www.smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From papparuff at attbi.com Wed Apr 16 10:47:00 2003 From: papparuff at attbi.com (John Ruff) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 08:47:00 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Multiselect List box In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <023801c3042f$6b3fe770$6401a8c0@papparuff> Using Multiselect listboxes are not as difficult as you are making them out to be. Here's some simple code: dim varItm as string dim strBrand as string strBrand = "" ' Get the value of the first column of all items ' selected in a list box For Each varItm In lstBrand.ItemsSelected strBrand = strBrand & lstBrand.Column(0, varItm) & ", " Next varItm John V. Ruff - The Eternal Optimist :-) Always Looking For Contract Opportunities "Commit to the Lord whatever you do, and your plans will succeed." Proverbs 16:3 -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 6:50 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Multiselect List box I am working on a program in A2K, and I may have a need to use a multiselect list box. Actually, I think it would be best, because the choice have the potential to be altered in the future. However, I have never used multiselects before, and I am wondering how much trouble I'm getting into. I am all for diving in and learning something new, but I am really pressed for time here...this program must be put into operation by May 1st, and I am also playing a major part of moving an office of 200+ people to a new building, which starts on the 24th...I have to move and setup their server and all routers. Should I just make the check boxes for now? Or are the multiselects easier than I am making them out to be? I don't think I'd have a problem with their actual setup, but taking the selections and putting them into the table is where I am a little confused. Thanks! John W Clark _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Wed Apr 16 10:53:35 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 08:53:35 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] OT - Enough, Already!! Message-ID: Yes, but I was afraid I would be accused of the crime if I responded! Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 4:29 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Enough, Already!! Charlotte, Didn't you see my message yesterday to call Scotland Yard because somebody had killed the administrator at orridge.co.uk? Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Tuesday 2003 Apr 15 18:51 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Enough, Already!! That's easy for YOU to say!! If that's the case, then why isn't everyone seeing this? Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Carbonnell [mailto:carbonnb at sympatico.ca] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 3:41 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Enough, Already!! On 15 Apr 2003 at 16:35, Charlotte Foust wrote: > Gah!! Even this message also got a bounce! > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charlotte Foust > OK, who is administrator at orridge.co.uk when he's at home and why > doesn't he like my email? I keep getting these bounces, and I promise > you, I'm sending in text. Charlotte, It's not because they don't like you or you plain text e-mails ('cause they are plain text), but that administrator account no longer exists on their system and whom ever was subscribed at that address didn't bother unsubbing before they nuke the account. It's got nohting to do with you. Really it doesn't. :-) -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca I've learned.... That having a child fall asleep in your arms is one of the most peaceful feelings in the world. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us Wed Apr 16 10:59:33 2003 From: Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us (Gowey Mike W) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 09:59:33 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Oracle into Access Message-ID: <05EBB8A3BEB95B4F8216BE4EF48607784AFE41@srciml1.ds.doc.state.or.us> Hi Everyone, Has anyone know if it is possible to call a custome package from Oracle and run it in Access? Is this possible? Thanks, Mike Gowey, MCP Technical Support Analyst SRCI ISSD Team Leader From kaupca at ChevronTexaco.com Wed Apr 16 11:22:08 2003 From: kaupca at ChevronTexaco.com (Kaup, Chester A) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 11:22:08 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Query Run time in different databases Message-ID: <193572B4E0FC1744BEDFEE63F82CEC9E0F96CB@bocnte2k4.boc.chevrontexaco.net> I have a query that takes about 10 seconds to run in one database. I copied the query into another database using the menu bar. The query tries to run for hours in the database it was copied into. The original database is larger if that matters. A compact and repair seemed to have no effect. Any thoughts as to what is happening? No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Apr 16 11:25:15 2003 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD)) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 09:25:15 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Oracle into Access In-Reply-To: <05EBB8A3BEB95B4F8216BE4EF48607784AFE41@srciml1.ds.doc.state.or.us> Message-ID: Hi Mike: If you mean connect to a Oracle database with an Access front-end. Sure is. If you mean export a table from Oracle and import and run it in Access. Sure is. You can connect to an Oracle DB from Access you have to uses either an ODBC or ADO-OLE connection. HTH Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 9:00 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Oracle into Access Hi Everyone, Has anyone know if it is possible to call a custome package from Oracle and run it in Access? Is this possible? Thanks, Mike Gowey, MCP Technical Support Analyst SRCI ISSD Team Leader _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Wed Apr 16 11:44:29 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 11:44:29 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Query Run time in different databases Message-ID: Do both dbs have the same tables with the same indexes on them? If the second db is missing an index that the query uses, then it may be forced to do a table scan which is much slower for large tables. If that is not the problem, then you will have to give us more information about these two dbs. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Kaup, Chester A [mailto:kaupca at ChevronTexaco.com] Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 16 11:22 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Query Run time in different databases I have a query that takes about 10 seconds to run in one database. I copied the query into another database using the menu bar. The query tries to run for hours in the database it was copied into. The original database is larger if that matters. A compact and repair seemed to have no effect. Any thoughts as to what is happening? No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From liz at symphonyinfo.com Wed Apr 16 12:32:09 2003 From: liz at symphonyinfo.com (Liz Doering) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 12:32:09 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Printing in Access 2002 In-Reply-To: <411307519.20030410120412@cactus.dk> Message-ID: This what I just got back from Bill: FYI: I just spoke with the City of Fargo who was having the same problem. The printer that didn't work was a relatively new HP LaserJet. The one that works is an older HP DeskJet (ink). Thanks. --Bill He is very glad not to have had to go to Fargo to resolve this (a 500 mile round trip!) Liz -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 5:04 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Printing in Access 2002 Hi Liz Interesting. Out of curiosity, could you get from Bill which printer driver didn't work and which did? Also, for Bill, remember that and old proven LaserJet printer driver will print to most of the new fancy models but, of course, only with the features of the old driver. Quite often an old driver, native to Windows, prints faster. /gustav > Thanks, everyone for your ideas. I've just gotten an update from Bill: > Out of desperation and fear of the client, Bill tried setting the default to > another printer--not the client's preferred one, but just any one, to see if > any other difference could be made. And it worked! So from what you all > have said, XP didn't like the driver for the original printer as well as it > likes the driver for this one. Unfortunately, the client must now choose > his preferred printer each time he prints, but he appears to be OK with > that. > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of William Hindman > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 2:24 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Printing in Access 2002 > ...having just gone through a week long exercise with a brand new $18K > Minolta Printer/Copier at a client, I can vouchsafe that lots of XP drivers > are buggy ... had to actually install a W2K laptop and print from it to get > critical work out the door ...the only thing that I can tell you is that if > the printer driver is missing the MS Certified for Windows XP logo there is > probably a reason for it besides the cost :((((((( _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From j.frederick at att.net Thu Apr 17 13:39:30 2003 From: j.frederick at att.net (John Frederick) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 14:39:30 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I apologize for my long-winded spiel on WebDrive. As Ruben suggested below, the Windows Explorer/Tools/Map Network Drive feature can map ftp sites. I don't know yet how it handles caching, but I'll find out. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence (AccessD) Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 12:00 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet Hi Ruben: I think linking and binding Access tables across the web is always going to be painfully slow and unless you have a fiber connection, unrealistic. I tried that scenario, in a number of different ways, over five years ago and it was a total disaster. Without trying to ignite the bound/unbound controversy again, creating an ADO-OLE recordset framework solve the problem and, for me, made remote databases, possible. My two cents worth. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Reuben Cummings Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 9:56 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet I've done it. I'm on DSL. My ISP (and business partner) set up a folder on the server. He gave me the IP address and folder name, login and password. I simply mapped a drive to it like I would any drive. I could then link to the BE. However, the performance was terrible to the point I am now investigating replication over the DSL circuit between here and the ISP and one other office, that is also on the same DSL service, to the ISP. Reuben Cummings Director of Software Development GFC, LLC phone: 812.523.1017 email: reuben at gfconsultants.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John Frederick Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 9:30 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet Good question. I see the FTP options you're referring to in the browse window in Linked Table Manager, but that looks like the general purpose browse. If you have a permanent circuit, you could use a package named Web Drive (commercial for about $50). It maps an FTP site into your machine as a drive letter. You have to set up the connection manually, as I recall. When you refer to it in Windows Explorer, it brings the directory over into a local cache. If you reference to the mdb, it apparently copies the entire mdb into the local cache where you can reference it without network delays. If you change the cached mdb, you either have to manually request that it be paged entirely back to the remote, or that happens when you close Web Drive. I know only of a variety of kludgy partial solutions to this problem. I'll be listening to this thread for some good ideas. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of gregg steinbrenner Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 7:21 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Table Linking via the internet Is there any way to link BE tables on a web server to a FE on a local system? I see options for FTP connections in the link table manager but I have not been able to get them to work. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com Wed Apr 16 13:51:49 2003 From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 14:51:49 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Multiselect List box Message-ID: But how would I take all the items and put them into another table? I am thinking that I'll have to write a routine to separate them and put them into individual records...or I will have to separate a record later. There are a ton of directions as to how one goes about creating a multisel. list, but not much as to how to manipulate the data once its entered. >>> papparuff at attbi.com 04/16/03 11:47AM >>> Using Multiselect listboxes are not as difficult as you are making them out to be. Here's some simple code: dim varItm as string dim strBrand as string strBrand = "" ' Get the value of the first column of all items ' selected in a list box For Each varItm In lstBrand.ItemsSelected strBrand = strBrand & lstBrand.Column(0, varItm) & ", " Next varItm John V. Ruff - The Eternal Optimist :-) Always Looking For Contract Opportunities "Commit to the Lord whatever you do, and your plans will succeed." Proverbs 16:3 -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 6:50 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Multiselect List box I am working on a program in A2K, and I may have a need to use a multiselect list box. Actually, I think it would be best, because the choice have the potential to be altered in the future. However, I have never used multiselects before, and I am wondering how much trouble I'm getting into. I am all for diving in and learning something new, but I am really pressed for time here...this program must be put into operation by May 1st, and I am also playing a major part of moving an office of 200+ people to a new building, which starts on the 24th...I have to move and setup their server and all routers. Should I just make the check boxes for now? Or are the multiselects easier than I am making them out to be? I don't think I'd have a problem with their actual setup, but taking the selections and putting them into the table is where I am a little confused. Thanks! John W Clark _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From kaupca at ChevronTexaco.com Wed Apr 16 13:55:50 2003 From: kaupca at ChevronTexaco.com (Kaup, Chester A) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 13:55:50 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Query Run time in different databases Message-ID: <193572B4E0FC1744BEDFEE63F82CEC9E011E3CC8@bocnte2k4.boc.chevrontexaco.net> The tables are attached Oracle table so you would think that the indexes and primary keys would be the same in both databases. Wrong! Correcting indexes and primary keys fixed the problem Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 11:44 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query Run time in different databases Do both dbs have the same tables with the same indexes on them? If the second db is missing an index that the query uses, then it may be forced to do a table scan which is much slower for large tables. If that is not the problem, then you will have to give us more information about these two dbs. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Kaup, Chester A [mailto:kaupca at ChevronTexaco.com] Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 16 11:22 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Query Run time in different databases I have a query that takes about 10 seconds to run in one database. I copied the query into another database using the menu bar. The query tries to run for hours in the database it was copied into. The original database is larger if that matters. A compact and repair seemed to have no effect. Any thoughts as to what is happening? No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bob at renaissancesiding.com Wed Apr 16 14:24:43 2003 From: bob at renaissancesiding.com (Bob Gajewski) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 15:24:43 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Multiselect List box Message-ID: <01C3042C.4F4F6020.bob@renaissancesiding.com> John Check out Dev Ashish's site ... http://www.mvps.org/access/forms/frm0007.htm Regards, Bob Gajewski On Wednesday, April 16, 2003 14:52 PM, John Clark [SMTP:John.Clark at niagaracounty.com] wrote: > But how would I take all the items and put them into another table? I am > thinking that I'll have to write a routine to separate them and put them > into individual records...or I will have to separate a record later > There are a ton of directions as to how one goes about creating a > multisel. list, but not much as to how to manipulate the data once its > entered > > >>> papparuff at attbi.com 04/16/03 11:47AM >>> > Using Multiselect listboxes are not as difficult as you are making them > out > to be. Here's some simple code: > > dim varItm as string > dim strBrand as string > > strBrand = "" > ' Get the value of the first column of all items > ' selected in a list box > For Each varItm In lstBrand.ItemsSelected > strBrand = strBrand & lstBrand.Column(0, varItm) & ", " > Next varItm > > John V. Ruff - The Eternal Optimist :-) > Always Looking For Contract Opportunities > > "Commit to the Lord whatever you do, > and your plans will succeed." Proverbs 16:3 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 6:50 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Multiselect List box > > > I am working on a program in A2K, and I may have a need to use a > multiselect > list box. Actually, I think it would be best, because the choice have > the > potential to be altered in the future. However, I have never used > multiselects before, and I am wondering how much trouble I'm getting > into > > I am all for diving in and learning something new, but I am really > pressed > for time here...this program must be put into operation by May 1st, and > I am > also playing a major part of moving an office of 200+ people to a new > building, which starts on the 24th...I have to move and setup their > server > and all routers. > > Should I just make the check boxes for now? Or are the multiselects > easier > than I am making them out to be? > > I don't think I'd have a problem with their actual setup, but taking > the > selections and putting them into the table is where I am a little > confused > > Thanks! > > John W Clark > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > From artful at rogers.com Wed Apr 16 14:52:51 2003 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 15:52:51 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT: TS question Message-ID: <038501c30451$c3e51c20$8e01a8c0@Rock> IIRC, you can set Terminal Services up so it sees just one app, and not a whole desktop. Is that right? If so, how do you do it? TIA, Arthur From stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz Wed Apr 16 17:04:23 2003 From: stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz (Stephen Bond) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 10:04:23 +1200 Subject: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs Message-ID: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F29038A2A@server.bondsoftware.co.nz> How many independent contractors in the group provide the Access FE to their customers either as an MDE, or, as a secured MDB, so (a) changes can't be made, and, (b) the VBA is password protected? I have my reasons for doing so, (fixing some amateur's efforts to add an enhancement; protecting my not small investment in training and upskilling; these two will do to start) and of course there are arguments against. Can I have some input please. Both sides of the argument are welcome. TIA Stephen Bond From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Wed Apr 16 17:32:31 2003 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 08:32:31 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Multiselect List box In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3E9E669F.20080.334A21@localhost> Lots of ways: Docmd.RunSQL .... dim varItm as string dim strBrand as string dim strSQL as sting For Each varItm In lstBrand.ItemsSelected strSQL = "INSERT INTO myTable (Fld1) Select '" & lstBrand.Column(0,varItm) & "'" docmd.runSQl strSQL Next varItm .... or DAO ... dim rs as recordset set rs= currentdb.openrecordset("myTable") For Each varItm In lstBrand.ItemsSelected rs.addnew rs(0) = lstBrand.Column(0,varItm) rs.update Next varItm .... or using John's code, you can split the string into array elements .... Dim myArray() myArray() = Split(strbrand,",") .... then do want you want with the array elements. On 16 Apr 2003 at 14:51, John Clark wrote: > But how would I take all the items and put them into another table? I > am thinking that I'll have to write a routine to separate them and put > them into individual records...or I will have to separate a record > later. There are a ton of directions as to how one goes about creating > a multisel. list, but not much as to how to manipulate the data once > its entered. > > >>> papparuff at attbi.com 04/16/03 11:47AM >>> > Using Multiselect listboxes are not as difficult as you are making > them out to be. Here's some simple code: > > dim varItm as string > dim strBrand as string > > strBrand = "" > ' Get the value of the first column of all items > ' selected in a list box > For Each varItm In lstBrand.ItemsSelected > strBrand = strBrand & lstBrand.Column(0, varItm) & ", " > Next varItm > > John V. Ruff - The Eternal Optimist :-) > Always Looking For Contract Opportunities > > "Commit to the Lord whatever you do, > and your plans will succeed." Proverbs 16:3 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 6:50 AM To: > accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Multiselect List box > > > I am working on a program in A2K, and I may have a need to use a > multiselect > list box. Actually, I think it would be best, because the choice have > the potential to be altered in the future. However, I have never used > multiselects before, and I am wondering how much trouble I'm getting > into. > > I am all for diving in and learning something new, but I am really > pressed for time here...this program must be put into operation by May > 1st, and I am also playing a major part of moving an office of 200+ > people to a new building, which starts on the 24th...I have to move > and setup their server and all routers. > > Should I just make the check boxes for now? Or are the multiselects > easier than I am making them out to be? > > I don't think I'd have a problem with their actual setup, but taking > the selections and putting them into the table is where I am a little > confused. > > Thanks! > > John W Clark > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Wed Apr 16 17:32:31 2003 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 08:32:31 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] autonumber In-Reply-To: <045901c30429$43cdd900$324afccc@SusanOne> Message-ID: <3E9E669F.17332.334A5D@localhost> On 16 Apr 2003 at 11:02, Susan Harkins wrote: > been away from real business for so long that people are printing up > their own purchase order forms, etc. using Access?????????????????? > I'm just having trouble visualizing this is all. > I've got a couple of clients who generate Purchase Orders, Repair Orders etc from Access (Heck - I wrote a system which did this in Dataflex back in the late 80's). Even have one system where the manager approves them, generate them as reports, convert them to PDF and emails them to suppliers (plus internal notifications to various departments) all with a single button click. If you have people filling out paper forms and then hope it gets entered properly later, you always run into data inconsistencies and missing records. -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. From harkins at iglou.com Wed Apr 16 17:41:02 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 18:41:02 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] autonumber References: <3E9E669F.17332.334A5D@localhost> Message-ID: <011601c30469$47a21e70$f5ecffcc@SusanOne> But does the system use the AutoNumber as the actual Purchase Order No? Susan H. > > I've got a couple of clients who generate Purchase Orders, Repair > Orders etc from Access (Heck - I wrote a system which did this in > Dataflex back in the late 80's). From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Wed Apr 16 17:45:24 2003 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 08:45:24 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs In-Reply-To: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F29038A2A@server.bondsoftware.co.nz> Message-ID: <3E9E69A4.17249.3F15BE@localhost> I always use an MDE for the FE. If you give an end user an mdb you can guarantee they will eventually find some way to screw your application. I've made quite a bit of money over the years cracking/rebuilding apps where the original developer in no longer available ( PNG has a lot of expats who move on elsewhere). I make sure that my clients don't end up in this position if I get hit by a bus tomorrow. I make sure that there is a copy of the mdb somewhere in their system - but only accessible to selected senior staff who know better than to touch it while I am still around. On 17 Apr 2003 at 10:04, Stephen Bond wrote: > How many independent contractors in the group > provide the Access FE to their customers > either as an MDE, or, as a secured MDB, so > (a) changes can't be made, and, > (b) the VBA is password protected? > > I have my reasons for doing so, > (fixing some amateur's efforts to > add an enhancement; protecting > my not small investment in > training and upskilling; these two > will do to start) > > and of course there are arguments against. > > Can I have some input please. Both sides > of the argument are welcome. > > TIA > > > Stephen Bond > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 16 17:45:56 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 18:45:56 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs References: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F29038A2A@server.bondsoftware.co.nz> Message-ID: <001901c30469$f14fc580$6101a8c0@amd2k512> ...always, always, always as an mde ...a secured mde if data security is required ...even if the contract requires I supply source code, I do that on a separate cd with security different from that of the mde, never installed ...in addition, I've shifted to using runtime installs whenever possible and always include a clause that makes user induced problems correctable at my full hourly rate. ...sometimes its just not feasible to block all user access ...in which case I go to extremes to document the status of the master mdb each time I leave, usually copying it to an encrypted directory with only me having access. ...users will lie through their teeth when confronted with having screwed with a critical app ...and if you have not protected yourself, they'll readily destroy your credibility with the client ...fortunately, clients rarely need a second demonstration of user culpability. William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Bond" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 6:04 PM Subject: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > How many independent contractors in the group > provide the Access FE to their customers > either as an MDE, or, as a secured MDB, so > (a) changes can't be made, and, > (b) the VBA is password protected? > > I have my reasons for doing so, > (fixing some amateur's efforts to > add an enhancement; protecting > my not small investment in > training and upskilling; these two > will do to start) > > and of course there are arguments against. > > Can I have some input please. Both sides > of the argument are welcome. > > TIA > > > Stephen Bond > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Wed Apr 16 17:53:27 2003 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 08:53:27 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] autonumber In-Reply-To: <011601c30469$47a21e70$f5ecffcc@SusanOne> Message-ID: <3E9E6B87.27105.467403@localhost> On 16 Apr 2003 at 18:41, Susan Harkins wrote: > But does the system use the AutoNumber as the actual Purchase Order > No? Susan H. I must admit, I've got one or two legacy systems sitting around that do use an Autonumber PK as the Order number , or at least part of it. :-( But I haven't made that mistake in a new system for quite a few years now. Not since the first time it turned round and bit me :-) -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. From harkins at iglou.com Wed Apr 16 17:57:52 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 18:57:52 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] autonumber References: <3E9E6B87.27105.467403@localhost> Message-ID: <015f01c3046b$b342d820$f5ecffcc@SusanOne> ========Ouch! You know, for most applications, it wouldn't even matter -- it's always the one where it DOES matter... :) Susan H. > > > But does the system use the AutoNumber as the actual Purchase Order > > No? Susan H. > > I must admit, I've got one or two legacy systems sitting around that > do use an Autonumber PK as the Order number , or at least part of > it. :-( > > But I haven't made that mistake in a new system for quite a few > years now. Not since the first time it turned round and bit me :-) > > > > > > > > -- > Lexacorp Ltd > http://www.lexacorp.com.pg > Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System > Support. > > > > > From stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz Wed Apr 16 18:09:36 2003 From: stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz (Stephen Bond) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 11:09:36 +1200 Subject: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs Message-ID: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F298EB0@server.bondsoftware.co.nz> Thanks William ... I needed that, an infusion of backbone ... my wife tells me I am too soft, "you're a professional, act like one!". I like the idea of a separate cd with security different from that of the mde. Are the users who require this savvy users? Stephen Bond -----Original Message----- From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, 17 April 2003 10:46 a.m. To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs ...always, always, always as an mde ...a secured mde if data security is required ...even if the contract requires I supply source code, I do that on a separate cd with security different from that of the mde, never installed ...in addition, I've shifted to using runtime installs whenever possible and always include a clause that makes user induced problems correctable at my full hourly rate. ...sometimes its just not feasible to block all user access ...in which case I go to extremes to document the status of the master mdb each time I leave, usually copying it to an encrypted directory with only me having access. ...users will lie through their teeth when confronted with having screwed with a critical app ...and if you have not protected yourself, they'll readily destroy your credibility with the client ...fortunately, clients rarely need a second demonstration of user culpability. William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Bond" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 6:04 PM Subject: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > How many independent contractors in the group > provide the Access FE to their customers > either as an MDE, or, as a secured MDB, so > (a) changes can't be made, and, > (b) the VBA is password protected? > > I have my reasons for doing so, > (fixing some amateur's efforts to > add an enhancement; protecting > my not small investment in > training and upskilling; these two > will do to start) > > and of course there are arguments against. > > Can I have some input please. Both sides > of the argument are welcome. > > TIA > > > Stephen Bond > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Wed Apr 16 18:13:13 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 16:13:13 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs Message-ID: When I do independent contracting, that is exactly what I do ... Unless the contract specfies otherwise. I learned many years ago that it was the only way to protect the application from "curious" users or those who had taken a class in Access and were anxious to use what they learned. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Bond [mailto:stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 2:04 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs How many independent contractors in the group provide the Access FE to their customers either as an MDE, or, as a secured MDB, so (a) changes can't be made, and, (b) the VBA is password protected? I have my reasons for doing so, (fixing some amateur's efforts to add an enhancement; protecting my not small investment in training and upskilling; these two will do to start) and of course there are arguments against. Can I have some input please. Both sides of the argument are welcome. TIA Stephen Bond _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 16 18:14:43 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 19:14:43 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs References: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F298EB0@server.bondsoftware.co.nz> Message-ID: <002c01c3046d$f926ecd0$6101a8c0@amd2k512> ...I give it to the owners or IT Admin with lots of words about NO ONE needing to use it unless I die or he decides to use another contractor. William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Bond" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:09 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > Thanks William ... I needed that, an infusion of backbone ... my wife tells me I am too soft, "you're a professional, act like one!". > > I like the idea of a separate cd with security different from that of the mde. Are the users who require this savvy users? > > Stephen Bond > > > -----Original Message----- > From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] > Sent: Thursday, 17 April 2003 10:46 a.m. > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > > > ...always, always, always as an mde ...a secured mde if data security is > required ...even if the contract requires I supply source code, I do that on > a separate cd with security different from that of the mde, never installed > ...in addition, I've shifted to using runtime installs whenever possible and > always include a clause that makes user induced problems correctable at my > full hourly rate. > > ...sometimes its just not feasible to block all user access ...in which case > I go to extremes to document the status of the master mdb each time I leave, > usually copying it to an encrypted directory with only me having access. > > ...users will lie through their teeth when confronted with having screwed > with a critical app ...and if you have not protected yourself, they'll > readily destroy your credibility with the client ...fortunately, clients > rarely need a second demonstration of user culpability. > > William Hindman > "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund > Burke > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephen Bond" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 6:04 PM > Subject: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > > > > How many independent contractors in the group > > provide the Access FE to their customers > > either as an MDE, or, as a secured MDB, so > > (a) changes can't be made, and, > > (b) the VBA is password protected? > > > > I have my reasons for doing so, > > (fixing some amateur's efforts to > > add an enhancement; protecting > > my not small investment in > > training and upskilling; these two > > will do to start) > > > > and of course there are arguments against. > > > > Can I have some input please. Both sides > > of the argument are welcome. > > > > TIA > > > > > > Stephen Bond > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com Wed Apr 16 18:22:33 2003 From: jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 19:22:33 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I had a user inform me that she had tried to make a change to a table and the database wouldn't let her. The database was split, and she was trying to make the change to the linked table through the FE. One has to wonder why any user thinks they have the right to just start modifying tables, but things like this DO happen. And to then TELL ME that she was trying to do this... it boggles the mind! In most cases I use the split FE/BE, with the FE located on a server and downloaded by a shortcut on the user's desktop. The user can modify whatever they want on their copy. The next time they fire up the FE, they get a clean copy from the server. I usually have a copy on my system at my office as well. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:13 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs When I do independent contracting, that is exactly what I do ... Unless the contract specfies otherwise. I learned many years ago that it was the only way to protect the application from "curious" users or those who had taken a class in Access and were anxious to use what they learned. Charlotte Foust ----------------------------------------------------- eMailBoss puts you in command of your email. Get your copy today at http://www.eMailBoss.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Congress Ave > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > 512-463-9493 > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] > Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 16 05:02 > To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com ' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber > > A make table query should already 'reset' the AutoNumber, since it is > going to make a new table. An append query can be used to 'set' numbers > within an AutoNumber field, however, it doesn't reset the counter, it > can just 'ignore' it. If you delete the data in a table, to resent the > AutoNumber counter, compact the database. It will reset the counter (on > an incremental > AN) to the highest number plus 1 (or 1, if there are no records > remaining). > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Eget > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > Sent: 4/16/03 4:43 AM > Subject: [AccessD] autonumber > > Is there a way to reset the autonumber to 1 of a make table query or an > append or a table I just finished deleting the information from? John > <> > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Wed Apr 16 18:35:22 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 16:35:22 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] autonumber Message-ID: FYI, this doesn't work in A2k or AXP with Jet 4 SP 4 or above. The counter does not get reset to the next highest number when you compact. They fixed it in O2k SR-1 and broke it again in the Jet service packs. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 2:02 AM To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com ' Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber A make table query should already 'reset' the AutoNumber, since it is going to make a new table. An append query can be used to 'set' numbers within an AutoNumber field, however, it doesn't reset the counter, it can just 'ignore' it. If you delete the data in a table, to resent the AutoNumber counter, compact the database. It will reset the counter (on an incremental AN) to the highest number plus 1 (or 1, if there are no records remaining). Drew -----Original Message----- From: John Eget To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Sent: 4/16/03 4:43 AM Subject: [AccessD] autonumber Is there a way to reset the autonumber to 1 of a make table query or an append or a table I just finished deleting the information from? John <> _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz Wed Apr 16 18:39:26 2003 From: stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz (Stephen Bond) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 11:39:26 +1200 Subject: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs Message-ID: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F29038A33@server.bondsoftware.co.nz> William, do you ever assert ownership of the code at the beginning of a contract? Down here, the law says it is the client's unless asserted at the start of the contract, so I do. Your thoughts Stephen Bond -----Original Message----- From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, 17 April 2003 11:15 a.m. To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs ...I give it to the owners or IT Admin with lots of words about NO ONE needing to use it unless I die or he decides to use another contractor. William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Bond" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:09 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > Thanks William ... I needed that, an infusion of backbone ... my wife tells me I am too soft, "you're a professional, act like one!". > > I like the idea of a separate cd with security different from that of the mde. Are the users who require this savvy users? > > Stephen Bond > > > -----Original Message----- > From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] > Sent: Thursday, 17 April 2003 10:46 a.m. > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > > > ...always, always, always as an mde ...a secured mde if data security is > required ...even if the contract requires I supply source code, I do that on > a separate cd with security different from that of the mde, never installed > ...in addition, I've shifted to using runtime installs whenever possible and > always include a clause that makes user induced problems correctable at my > full hourly rate. > > ...sometimes its just not feasible to block all user access ...in which case > I go to extremes to document the status of the master mdb each time I leave, > usually copying it to an encrypted directory with only me having access. > > ...users will lie through their teeth when confronted with having screwed > with a critical app ...and if you have not protected yourself, they'll > readily destroy your credibility with the client ...fortunately, clients > rarely need a second demonstration of user culpability. > > William Hindman > "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund > Burke > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephen Bond" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 6:04 PM > Subject: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > > > > How many independent contractors in the group > > provide the Access FE to their customers > > either as an MDE, or, as a secured MDB, so > > (a) changes can't be made, and, > > (b) the VBA is password protected? > > > > I have my reasons for doing so, > > (fixing some amateur's efforts to > > add an enhancement; protecting > > my not small investment in > > training and upskilling; these two > > will do to start) > > > > and of course there are arguments against. > > > > Can I have some input please. Both sides > > of the argument are welcome. > > > > TIA > > > > > > Stephen Bond > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Wed Apr 16 18:42:20 2003 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 09:42:20 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] autonumber In-Reply-To: <017e01c30470$46ee3390$87c2f63f@Desktop> Message-ID: <3E9E76FC.1692.733635@localhost> I'd only worry about that if you plan to create more that 4 billion odd entries - which will take about 135 years if you create one new record a second on average. On 16 Apr 2003 at 19:31, John Eget wrote: > growth of the number over a period of time > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wortz, Charles" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 8:46 AM > Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber > > > > John, > > > > I cannot let this pass without asking why do you care? You are not > > committing the cardinal sin of allowing you users to see the > > autonumber field are you? If so, check the archives on why > > this is a cardinal sin. > > > > Charles Wortz > > Software Development Division > > Texas Education Agency > > 1701 N. Congress Ave > > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > > 512-463-9493 > > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] > > Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 16 05:02 > > To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com ' > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber > > > > A make table query should already 'reset' the AutoNumber, since it > > is going to make a new table. An append query can be used to 'set' > > numbers within an AutoNumber field, however, it doesn't reset the > > counter, it can just 'ignore' it. If you delete the data in a > > table, to resent the AutoNumber counter, compact the database. It > > will reset the counter (on an incremental AN) to the highest number > > plus 1 (or 1, if there are no records remaining). > > > > Drew > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Eget > > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > Sent: 4/16/03 4:43 AM > > Subject: [AccessD] autonumber > > > > Is there a way to reset the autonumber to 1 of a make table query or > > an append or a table I just finished deleting the information from? > > John <> > > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: > > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 16 18:44:22 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 19:44:22 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] new dba Web Site page ...gggggrrreat!!!!!! Message-ID: <004101c30472$1b782f70$6101a8c0@amd2k512> ...a fellow list member just let me know that the newest version of dba's front end has been posted on the website and imnsho ...after looking at it, I'm IMPRESSED!!! ...it is by far the most professional and group building effort I've seen in all the time I've been associated with AccessD ...not because someone used some of my words in it but ...well hell ...go to http://databaseadvisors.com and see it for yourself ...go now ...I mean it ...whoever's responsible for this idea and its implementation deserves a LOT of praise from all of us!!!!!! William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Wed Apr 16 18:45:52 2003 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 09:45:52 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs In-Reply-To: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F29038A33@server.bondsoftware.co.nz> Message-ID: <3E9E77D0.5383.7673B8@localhost> On 17 Apr 2003 at 11:39, Stephen Bond wrote: > William, do you ever assert ownership of the code at the beginning of > a contract? Down here, the law says it is the client's unless asserted > at the start of the contract, so I do. > > Your thoughts > > Stephen Bond > > This is a fairly stamdard part of any of my proposals: "The application will have been developed by Lexacorp for your use, but the developed application will incorporate code fragments and ideas that have previously been developed by Lexacorp and all intellectual property rights to the application remains the property of Lexacorp. You will receive a copy of the source code for the application and will be granted a non-exclusive licence to use such source code for maintenance and future development of the said application for your own use. You may not sell or otherwise dispose of the said source code, or any application developed utilising all or part of it to any third party without the express agreement of Lexacorp." -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. From DWUTKA at marlow.com Wed Apr 16 18:54:36 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 18:54:36 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] new dba Web Site page ...gggggrrreat!!!!!! Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82748@main2.marlow.com> Just looked at it. To be quite honest, I didn't brave the fire to go back into my place.....I did haggle with the fire inspectors after everything was put out though.... Drew -----Original Message----- From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 6:44 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] new dba Web Site page ...gggggrrreat!!!!!! ...a fellow list member just let me know that the newest version of dba's front end has been posted on the website and imnsho ...after looking at it, I'm IMPRESSED!!! ...it is by far the most professional and group building effort I've seen in all the time I've been associated with AccessD ...not because someone used some of my words in it but ...well hell ...go to http://databaseadvisors.com and see it for yourself ...go now ...I mean it ...whoever's responsible for this idea and its implementation deserves a LOT of praise from all of us!!!!!! William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au Wed Apr 16 18:58:37 2003 From: SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au (Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 09:58:37 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs References: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F29038A33@server.bondsoftware.co.nz> Message-ID: <009601c30474$18df2320$54dd31d2@OfficePC> That's interesting Stephen, because my advice here (Australia) has been that by default ownership rests with the developer, so I don't supply the FE mdb in every case. It is a case by case situation for me. Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Bond To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 9:39 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs William, do you ever assert ownership of the code at the beginning of a contract? Down here, the law says it is the client's unless asserted at the start of the contract, so I do. Your thoughts Stephen Bond -----Original Message----- From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, 17 April 2003 11:15 a.m. To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs ...I give it to the owners or IT Admin with lots of words about NO ONE needing to use it unless I die or he decides to use another contractor. William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Bond" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:09 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > Thanks William ... I needed that, an infusion of backbone ... my wife tells me I am too soft, "you're a professional, act like one!". > > I like the idea of a separate cd with security different from that of the mde. Are the users who require this savvy users? > > Stephen Bond > > > -----Original Message----- > From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] > Sent: Thursday, 17 April 2003 10:46 a.m. > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > > > ...always, always, always as an mde ...a secured mde if data security is > required ...even if the contract requires I supply source code, I do that on > a separate cd with security different from that of the mde, never installed > ...in addition, I've shifted to using runtime installs whenever possible and > always include a clause that makes user induced problems correctable at my > full hourly rate. > > ...sometimes its just not feasible to block all user access ...in which case > I go to extremes to document the status of the master mdb each time I leave, > usually copying it to an encrypted directory with only me having access. > > ...users will lie through their teeth when confronted with having screwed > with a critical app ...and if you have not protected yourself, they'll > readily destroy your credibility with the client ...fortunately, clients > rarely need a second demonstration of user culpability. > > William Hindman > "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund > Burke > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephen Bond" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 6:04 PM > Subject: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > > > > How many independent contractors in the group > > provide the Access FE to their customers > > either as an MDE, or, as a secured MDB, so > > (a) changes can't be made, and, > > (b) the VBA is password protected? > > > > I have my reasons for doing so, > > (fixing some amateur's efforts to > > add an enhancement; protecting > > my not small investment in > > training and upskilling; these two > > will do to start) > > > > and of course there are arguments against. > > > > Can I have some input please. Both sides > > of the argument are welcome. > > > > TIA > > > > > > Stephen Bond > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 16 19:06:31 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 20:06:31 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs References: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F29038A33@server.bondsoftware.co.nz> Message-ID: <004a01c30475$333964f0$6101a8c0@amd2k512> ...yes, always unless the client stipulates otherwise ...and then I include a clause about individual copyrights where such code is used AND charge him a stiff differential for it ...client response varies ...most really don't care about the code, they get it confused with the ownership of their data ...but for those that do, its available. William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Bond" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:39 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > William, do you ever assert ownership of the code at the beginning of a contract? Down here, the law says it is the client's unless asserted at the start of the contract, so I do. > > Your thoughts > > Stephen Bond > > > -----Original Message----- > From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] > Sent: Thursday, 17 April 2003 11:15 a.m. > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > > > ...I give it to the owners or IT Admin with lots of words about NO ONE > needing to use it unless I die or he decides to use another contractor. > > William Hindman > "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund > Burke > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephen Bond" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:09 PM > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > > > > Thanks William ... I needed that, an infusion of backbone ... my wife > tells me I am too soft, "you're a professional, act like one!". > > > > I like the idea of a separate cd with security different from that of the > mde. Are the users who require this savvy users? > > > > Stephen Bond > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] > > Sent: Thursday, 17 April 2003 10:46 a.m. > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > > > > > > ...always, always, always as an mde ...a secured mde if data security is > > required ...even if the contract requires I supply source code, I do that > on > > a separate cd with security different from that of the mde, never > installed > > ...in addition, I've shifted to using runtime installs whenever possible > and > > always include a clause that makes user induced problems correctable at my > > full hourly rate. > > > > ...sometimes its just not feasible to block all user access ...in which > case > > I go to extremes to document the status of the master mdb each time I > leave, > > usually copying it to an encrypted directory with only me having access. > > > > ...users will lie through their teeth when confronted with having screwed > > with a critical app ...and if you have not protected yourself, they'll > > readily destroy your credibility with the client ...fortunately, clients > > rarely need a second demonstration of user culpability. > > > > William Hindman > > "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund > > Burke > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Stephen Bond" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 6:04 PM > > Subject: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > > > > > > > How many independent contractors in the group > > > provide the Access FE to their customers > > > either as an MDE, or, as a secured MDB, so > > > (a) changes can't be made, and, > > > (b) the VBA is password protected? > > > > > > I have my reasons for doing so, > > > (fixing some amateur's efforts to > > > add an enhancement; protecting > > > my not small investment in > > > training and upskilling; these two > > > will do to start) > > > > > > and of course there are arguments against. > > > > > > Can I have some input please. Both sides > > > of the argument are welcome. > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > > > > Stephen Bond > > > _______________________________________________ > > > AccessD mailing list > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz Wed Apr 16 20:00:43 2003 From: stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz (Stephen Bond) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 13:00:43 +1200 Subject: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs Message-ID: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F298EB2@server.bondsoftware.co.nz> Thank you all for your input. You're a great crew! Some really good ideas, as well as stiffening of resolve that I am at least on the right track. It's Thursday afternoon here and I'm off for a break over Easter, heading into the alps to remind myself what it's all about. Y'all have a good one! Cheers Stephen Bond From jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com Wed Apr 16 21:10:28 2003 From: jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 22:10:28 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] autonumber In-Reply-To: Message-ID: For my money, it was always a PITA anyway. I prefer that it doesn't reset. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:35 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber FYI, this doesn't work in A2k or AXP with Jet 4 SP 4 or above. The counter does not get reset to the next highest number when you compact. They fixed it in O2k SR-1 and broke it again in the Jet service packs. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 2:02 AM To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com ' Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber A make table query should already 'reset' the AutoNumber, since it is going to make a new table. An append query can be used to 'set' numbers within an AutoNumber field, however, it doesn't reset the counter, it can just 'ignore' it. If you delete the data in a table, to resent the AutoNumber counter, compact the database. It will reset the counter (on an incremental AN) to the highest number plus 1 (or 1, if there are no records remaining). Drew -----Original Message----- From: John Eget To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Sent: 4/16/03 4:43 AM Subject: [AccessD] autonumber Is there a way to reset the autonumber to 1 of a make table query or an append or a table I just finished deleting the information from? John <> _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ----------------------------------------------------- eMailBoss puts you in command of your email. Get your copy today at http://www.eMailBoss.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(Just hadn't seen any posts on this side of the debate and couldn't stand the idea of the list being unanimous on any subject ;-) ) Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] > Sent: 17 April 2003 00:23 > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > > I had a user inform me that she had tried to make a change to a table and > the database wouldn't let her. The database was split, and she was trying > to make the change to the linked table through the FE. One has to wonder > why any user thinks they have the right to just start modifying tables, > but things like this DO happen. And to then TELL ME that she was trying > to do this... it boggles the mind! > > In most cases I use the split FE/BE, with the FE located on a server and > downloaded by a shortcut on the user's desktop. The user can modify > whatever they want on their copy. The next time they fire up the FE, they > get a clean copy from the server. I usually have a copy on my system at > my office as well. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte > Foust > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:13 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > > > When I do independent contracting, that is exactly what I do ... Unless > the contract specfies otherwise. I learned many years ago that it was > the only way to protect the application from "curious" users or those > who had taken a class in Access and were anxious to use what they > learned. > > Charlotte Foust > > > ----------------------------------------------------- > eMailBoss puts you in command of your email. > Get your copy today at http://www.eMailBoss.com << File: ATT00022.txt >> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 3224 bytes Desc: not available URL: From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Thu Apr 17 02:02:34 2003 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 08:02:34 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] new dba Web Site page ...gggggrrreat!!!!!! In-Reply-To: <004101c30472$1b782f70$6101a8c0@amd2k512> Message-ID: <002e01c304af$52751aa0$b274d0d5@andypc> >whoever's responsible for this idea > and its implementation deserves a LOT of praise from all of us That'll be Jim Lawrence, and not forgetting his daughter Cori who has helped him even though she has nothing to do with AccessD. Praise them both. Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > William Hindman > Sent: 17 April 2003 00:44 > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] new dba Web Site page ...gggggrrreat!!!!!! > > > ...a fellow list member just let me know that the newest > version of dba's front end has been posted on the website and > imnsho ...after looking at it, I'm IMPRESSED!!! ...it is by > far the most professional and group building effort I've seen > in all the time I've been associated with AccessD ...not > because someone used some of my words in it but ...well hell > ...go to http://databaseadvisors.com and see it for yourself > ...go now ...I mean it ...whoever's responsible for this idea > and its implementation deserves a LOT of praise from all of us!!!!!! > > William Hindman > "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do > nothing." Edmund Burke > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd > Website: > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk Thu Apr 17 03:07:09 2003 From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 09:07:09 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs Message-ID: <52339DF8DCA2A544AF660C8217EB7DCD0227F149@MAILGATE.bury.gov.uk> Further to this debate - are there any drawbacks/limitations or important considerations concerning functionality to take into account when using an mde? Richard > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen Bond [SMTP:stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz] > Sent: 17 April 2003 02:01 > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > > Thank you all for your input. You're a great > crew! Some really good ideas, as well as > stiffening of resolve that I am at least on > the right track. > > It's Thursday afternoon here and I'm off for > a break over Easter, heading into the alps > to remind myself what it's all about. > Y'all have a good one! > > Cheers > > Stephen Bond > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, together with any files transmitted with it, is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. 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I personally don't see any harm is using the AN for purposes other then a key, nor do I see any harm with showing the user an AN, though a lot of times, a user just wants a number, so it doesn't matter if it's an AN, or something else. I know I probably just opened a HUGE can of worms, but heck, I had intermittent List time (been busy with other things), however since 11 pm on the 15th (it's now 4 am on the 17th), there has only been 70 posts.....come on folks...that's pathetic? JC, what can we argue about? We need more posts! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:46 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber John, I cannot let this pass without asking why do you care? You are not committing the cardinal sin of allowing you users to see the autonumber field are you? If so, check the archives on why this is a cardinal sin. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 16 05:02 To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com ' Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber A make table query should already 'reset' the AutoNumber, since it is going to make a new table. An append query can be used to 'set' numbers within an AutoNumber field, however, it doesn't reset the counter, it can just 'ignore' it. If you delete the data in a table, to resent the AutoNumber counter, compact the database. It will reset the counter (on an incremental AN) to the highest number plus 1 (or 1, if there are no records remaining). Drew -----Original Message----- From: John Eget To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Sent: 4/16/03 4:43 AM Subject: [AccessD] autonumber Is there a way to reset the autonumber to 1 of a make table query or an append or a table I just finished deleting the information from? John <> _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Thu Apr 17 04:45:05 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 04:45:05 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] autonumber Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82751@main2.marlow.com> Aha, but if you develop a system that doesn't delete a record, then the AN will always be incremented. (Thus, the resetting is needed during development, so that it kicks to 1, on the first 'official' record). Drew -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 9:10 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber Brenda, M$ only guarantees that an autonumber will be unique. It does not guarantee that it will increment by one each time. Users, and especially auditors, will question you as to why there are gaps in the numbering scheme. What are you going to say when the auditors ask you where is the paperwork for the missing numbers? Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Reische, Brenda L. [mailto:reische at mdh.org] Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 16 08:12 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber Charles, The archives appear to be down right now. Care to enlighten me? I let the users see the autonumber field. In my ambulance services database, that is the unique run id number that we use - it prints on the medical record and everything... Why is this a cardinal sin? Thanks, Brenda Reische McDonough District Hospital -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:46 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber John, I cannot let this pass without asking why do you care? You are not committing the cardinal sin of allowing you users to see the autonumber field are you? If so, check the archives on why this is a cardinal sin. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 16 05:02 To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com ' Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber A make table query should already 'reset' the AutoNumber, since it is going to make a new table. An append query can be used to 'set' numbers within an AutoNumber field, however, it doesn't reset the counter, it can just 'ignore' it. If you delete the data in a table, to resent the AutoNumber counter, compact the database. It will reset the counter (on an incremental AN) to the highest number plus 1 (or 1, if there are no records remaining). Drew -----Original Message----- From: John Eget To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Sent: 4/16/03 4:43 AM Subject: [AccessD] autonumber Is there a way to reset the autonumber to 1 of a make table query or an append or a table I just finished deleting the information from? John <> _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Thu Apr 17 04:52:21 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 04:52:21 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] autonumber Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82752@main2.marlow.com> Why couldn't it? I'm just curious. An Autonumber field is going to be unique, so it would work fine as a PO number. The only thing that I would see as an issue, is that a lot of systems want PO Numbers that are a bit more informative (like including the year and maybe cost center...) Drew -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 5:41 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] autonumber But does the system use the AutoNumber as the actual Purchase Order No? Susan H. > > I've got a couple of clients who generate Purchase Orders, Repair > Orders etc from Access (Heck - I wrote a system which did this in > Dataflex back in the late 80's). _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Thu Apr 17 04:54:46 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 04:54:46 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] autonumber Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82753@main2.marlow.com> Actually I knew that...somewhere in the back of my mind....but since I do mostly 97 stuff, I tend to ignore the philanderings of it's offspring! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 6:35 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber FYI, this doesn't work in A2k or AXP with Jet 4 SP 4 or above. The counter does not get reset to the next highest number when you compact. They fixed it in O2k SR-1 and broke it again in the Jet service packs. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 2:02 AM To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com ' Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber A make table query should already 'reset' the AutoNumber, since it is going to make a new table. An append query can be used to 'set' numbers within an AutoNumber field, however, it doesn't reset the counter, it can just 'ignore' it. If you delete the data in a table, to resent the AutoNumber counter, compact the database. It will reset the counter (on an incremental AN) to the highest number plus 1 (or 1, if there are no records remaining). Drew -----Original Message----- From: John Eget To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Sent: 4/16/03 4:43 AM Subject: [AccessD] autonumber Is there a way to reset the autonumber to 1 of a make table query or an append or a table I just finished deleting the information from? John <> _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Thu Apr 17 04:58:01 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 04:58:01 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82754@main2.marlow.com> Ditto! never used an .mde in a final product...but then again, a lot of my actual 'contract' work for Access stuff is repair or modify projects...not complete from the ground up. I have used them in testing, but that's it. I did notice they were still susceptible to the 97 'drag and drop' security bug. Drew > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk] > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 2:00 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > > My 2c > I have never used an MDE and I have never had a user curious enough (for > curious read stupid) to tamper with an FE. And that's a LOT of users at a > lot of compnaies over the years. I must live a charmed life. I wouldn't > hesitate to go the MDE route if I had to, but I never have. > > (Just hadn't seen any posts on this side of the debate and couldn't stand > the idea of the list being unanimous on any subject ;-) ) > > Andy Lacey > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [] > Sent: 17 April 2003 00:23 > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > > I had a user inform me that she had tried to make a change to a > table and the database wouldn't let her. The database was split, and she > was trying to make the change to the linked table through the FE. One has > to wonder why any user thinks they have the right to just start modifying > tables, but things like this DO happen. And to then TELL ME that she was > trying to do this... it boggles the mind! > > In most cases I use the split FE/BE, with the FE located on a server > and downloaded by a shortcut on the user's desktop. The user can modify > whatever they want on their copy. The next time they fire up the FE, they > get a clean copy from the server. I usually have a copy on my system at > my office as well. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [ Behalf Of > Charlotte > Foust > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:13 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > > > When I do independent contracting, that is exactly what I do ... > Unless > the contract specfies otherwise. I learned many years ago that it > was > the only way to protect the application from "curious" users or > those > who had taken a class in Access and were anxious to use what they > learned. > > Charlotte Foust > > > ----------------------------------------------------- > eMailBoss puts you in command of your email. > Get your copy today at << File: > ATT00022.txt >> << File: ATT49323.txt >> From DWUTKA at marlow.com Thu Apr 17 05:01:55 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 05:01:55 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82755@main2.marlow.com> I actually had a chat with my bosses boss (he's the CFO of our company) a few months ago. He was floored that I had a particular system in place, and had actually removed security that was there for years. I explained that most 'security' is only going to keep honest people honest, however, our biggest and just plain best security in place was overall ignorance. Our users didn't know enough to find data lying at their feet! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk] b) wouldn't know how to get into the code window or anything other than what I give them --------- Original Message -------- From: "Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd." To: "AccessD at databaseadvisors.com" Subject: RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs Date: 17/04/03 08:23 Andy - do you password protect the code window if distributing the mdb? Kath Pelletti Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. Ph: 9505-6714 Fax: 9505-6430 SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au _____ _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Subscriptions at servicexp.com Thu Apr 17 06:23:43 2003 From: Subscriptions at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 07:23:43 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs In-Reply-To: <002a01c304ae$e9bb6960$b274d0d5@andypc> Message-ID: My 2c The only MDE I use is as a REFERENCE to my MDB for my application authentication logic. I have just started using the BEU in the same MDE. Testing has been slow but so far the BEU has worked with out any problems in this capacity. It seems to work just as if it was imbedded in the MDB. I do lock down my MDB tight (the only exception is certain users have access to the formatting of reports) and password protect the "code window". In the project that I have been working on, I must allow the user to modify formatting and field positions on reports. So for me that rules out an MDE completely. Robert Gracie www.servicexp.com > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 3:00 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > > My 2c > I have never used an MDE and I have never had a user curious enough (for > curious read stupid) to tamper with an FE. And that's a LOT of users at a > lot of compnaies over the years. I must live a charmed life. I wouldn't > hesitate to go the MDE route if I had to, but I never have. > > (Just hadn't seen any posts on this side of the debate and couldn't stand > the idea of the list being unanimous on any subject ;-) ) > > Andy Lacey > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [] > Sent: 17 April 2003 00:23 > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > > I had a user inform me that she had tried to make a change to a > table and the database wouldn't let her. The database was split, and she > was trying to make the change to the linked table through the FE. One has > to wonder why any user thinks they have the right to just start modifying > tables, but things like this DO happen. And to then TELL ME that she was > trying to do this... it boggles the mind! > > In most cases I use the split FE/BE, with the FE located on a server > and downloaded by a shortcut on the user's desktop. The user can modify > whatever they want on their copy. The next time they fire up the FE, they > get a clean copy from the server. I usually have a copy on my system at > my office as well. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [ Behalf Of > Charlotte > Foust > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:13 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > > > When I do independent contracting, that is exactly what I do ... > Unless > the contract specfies otherwise. I learned many years ago that it > was > the only way to protect the application from "curious" users or > those > who had taken a class in Access and were anxious to use what they > learned. > > Charlotte Foust > > > ----------------------------------------------------- > eMailBoss puts you in command of your email. > Get your copy today at << File: > ATT00022.txt >> << File: ATT00012.txt >> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 3444 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com Thu Apr 17 07:32:00 2003 From: jcolby at ColbyConsulting.com (John W. Colby) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 08:32:00 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] autonumber In-Reply-To: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82751@main2.marlow.com> Message-ID: Yea, but the user can "escape out" of a record they don't want to finish. The autonumber is created when the first piece of info is entered (in bound forms) and thus that number is used, and then discarded. It's GONNA happen! John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 5:45 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber Aha, but if you develop a system that doesn't delete a record, then the AN will always be incremented. (Thus, the resetting is needed during development, so that it kicks to 1, on the first 'official' record). Drew -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 9:10 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber Brenda, M$ only guarantees that an autonumber will be unique. It does not guarantee that it will increment by one each time. Users, and especially auditors, will question you as to why there are gaps in the numbering scheme. What are you going to say when the auditors ask you where is the paperwork for the missing numbers? Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Reische, Brenda L. [mailto:reische at mdh.org] Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 16 08:12 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber Charles, The archives appear to be down right now. Care to enlighten me? I let the users see the autonumber field. In my ambulance services database, that is the unique run id number that we use - it prints on the medical record and everything... Why is this a cardinal sin? Thanks, Brenda Reische McDonough District Hospital -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:46 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber John, I cannot let this pass without asking why do you care? You are not committing the cardinal sin of allowing you users to see the autonumber field are you? If so, check the archives on why this is a cardinal sin. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 16 05:02 To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com ' Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber A make table query should already 'reset' the AutoNumber, since it is going to make a new table. An append query can be used to 'set' numbers within an AutoNumber field, however, it doesn't reset the counter, it can just 'ignore' it. If you delete the data in a table, to resent the AutoNumber counter, compact the database. It will reset the counter (on an incremental AN) to the highest number plus 1 (or 1, if there are no records remaining). Drew -----Original Message----- From: John Eget To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Sent: 4/16/03 4:43 AM Subject: [AccessD] autonumber Is there a way to reset the autonumber to 1 of a make table query or an append or a table I just finished deleting the information from? 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Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. [mailto:SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au] Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 16 18:59 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs That's interesting Stephen, because my advice here (Australia) has been that by default ownership rests with the developer, so I don't supply the FE mdb in every case. It is a case by case situation for me. Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Bond To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 9:39 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs William, do you ever assert ownership of the code at the beginning of a contract? Down here, the law says it is the client's unless asserted at the start of the contract, so I do. Your thoughts Stephen Bond -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Thu Apr 17 08:13:31 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 08:13:31 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] autonumber Message-ID: Drew, So you have everything back to normal in your new pad and are just sitting around twiddling your thumbs? As I said in another post, auditors do not like to see missing numbers. So why try to explain to them when you can use a real incremental number for humans(?) and save the AN for RI purposes. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Thursday 2003 Apr 17 04:43 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber I'll have to look through the archives myself on this one. (I'll have them running this weekend...for me! SBC says my DSL will be up next Thursday (barely a week, yippie!)). (Actually, in case anyone forgot, http://intranet.marlow.com/AccessD still works...it just doesn't have anything after this past January/December (and it's not as fast as what I had online for a whopping 36 hours...)) I always thought that the only real cardinal sin with AN's, was to use them as a true incremental value. (ie, expecting that if there is a 2 and a 4, that there is also a 3). I personally don't see any harm is using the AN for purposes other then a key, nor do I see any harm with showing the user an AN, though a lot of times, a user just wants a number, so it doesn't matter if it's an AN, or something else. I know I probably just opened a HUGE can of worms, but heck, I had intermittent List time (been busy with other things), however since 11 pm on the 15th (it's now 4 am on the 17th), there has only been 70 posts.....come on folks...that's pathetic? JC, what can we argue about? We need more posts! Drew From garykjos at hotmail.com Thu Apr 17 08:21:10 2003 From: garykjos at hotmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 08:21:10 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Oracle into Access Message-ID: Hi Mike, Not entirely clear on what a "Custome Package" is in Oracle. But I use Access front ends to Oracle databases every day, primarily using ODBC Linked tables. I have a couple applications that I use pass-through queries. With a pass-through query you create an Oracle SQL statment and it is then sent directly to Oracle without interpretation by Access. This allows you to do anything you could do using another SQL to Oracle interface, including calling Oracle Stored Procedures or custom functions. So I think the answer to your question is YES. Have a look in the Access help on "Pass-Through Query" and perhaps it will get you started. Gary Kjos garykjos at hotmail.com >From: "Gowey Mike W" >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >To: >Subject: [AccessD] Oracle into Access >Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 09:59:33 -0600 > > >Hi Everyone, > >Has anyone know if it is possible to call a custome package from Oracle >and run it in Access? Is this possible? > >Thanks, > >Mike Gowey, MCP >Technical Support Analyst >SRCI ISSD Team Leader > >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From bheid at appdevgrp.com Thu Apr 17 08:31:12 2003 From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 09:31:12 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30333033@ADGSERVER> I work for a company where we outsource for other companies. So they do own the code. We have something like the BEU in this one system where we supply a template and the system adds new fields to the ends of records based upon the fields in the template. I spent hours tracking down a problem where the user inserted fields in the middle of the record! This caused only partial updating of the new fields for the record. We now have limited security on the MDE FE and the BE is pw protected. We also set the FE up so that users with the correct pw can access the linked tables. This pw changes with each release. I know, I know, kind of slack security, but we had to fight to get this far. LOL. Bobby > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 3:00 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > > My 2c > I have never used an MDE and I have never had a user curious enough (for > curious read stupid) to tamper with an FE. And that's a LOT of users at a > lot of compnaies over the years. I must live a charmed life. I wouldn't > hesitate to go the MDE route if I had to, but I never have. > > (Just hadn't seen any posts on this side of the debate and couldn't stand > the idea of the list being unanimous on any subject ;-) ) > > Andy Lacey > > > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2700 bytes Desc: not available URL: From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Thu Apr 17 08:36:50 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 08:36:50 -0500 Subject: mde vs. mdb - was RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs Message-ID: Richard, If you create an .mde then you must, repeat MUST, keep the .mdb it was created from. The .mdb has all the human-readable code, the .mde has only compiled machine-readable code in it. Thus, you cannot make changes in the .mde unless you like bit-twiddling or have a product that can reverse-engineer the .mde. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] Sent: Thursday 2003 Apr 17 03:07 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs Further to this debate - are there any drawbacks/limitations or important considerations concerning functionality to take into account when using an mde? Richard From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk Thu Apr 17 08:55:54 2003 From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 14:55:54 +0100 Subject: mde vs. mdb - was RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs Message-ID: <52339DF8DCA2A544AF660C8217EB7DCD0227F14D@MAILGATE.bury.gov.uk> Thanks, I know its not possible to create references on the fly but what other things cannot be done? Richard > -----Original Message----- > From: Wortz, Charles [SMTP:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] > Sent: 17 April 2003 14:37 > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: mde vs. mdb - was RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > > Richard, > > If you create an .mde then you must, repeat MUST, keep the .mdb it was > created from. The .mdb has all the human-readable code, the .mde has > only compiled machine-readable code in it. Thus, you cannot make > changes in the .mde unless you like bit-twiddling or have a product that > can reverse-engineer the .mde. > > Charles Wortz > Software Development Division > Texas Education Agency > 1701 N. Congress Ave > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > 512-463-9493 > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] > Sent: Thursday 2003 Apr 17 03:07 > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > > Further to this debate - are there any drawbacks/limitations or > important considerations concerning functionality to take into account > when using an mde? > > Richard > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, together with any files transmitted with it, is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. 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For my clients, I let them test using an .mdb that I can modify. When they are satisfied with it, I produce the .mde for production. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] Sent: Thursday 2003 Apr 17 08:56 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: mde vs. mdb - was RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs Thanks, I know its not possible to create references on the fly but what other things cannot be done? Richard > -----Original Message----- > From: Wortz, Charles [SMTP:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] > Sent: 17 April 2003 14:37 > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: mde vs. mdb - was RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > > Richard, > > If you create an .mde then you must, repeat MUST, keep the .mdb it was > created from. The .mdb has all the human-readable code, the .mde has > only compiled machine-readable code in it. Thus, you cannot make > changes in the .mde unless you like bit-twiddling or have a product > that can reverse-engineer the .mde. > > Charles Wortz > -----Original Message----- > From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] > Sent: Thursday 2003 Apr 17 03:07 > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > > Further to this debate - are there any drawbacks/limitations or > important considerations concerning functionality to take into account > when using an mde? > > Richard From scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com Thu Apr 17 09:42:18 2003 From: scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com (Steve Capistrant) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 09:42:18 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Pushing to Outlook In-Reply-To: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D826C5@main2.marlow.com> Message-ID: Drew, 1. A PAB issue is puzzling me. My version of Outlook (2000 SP-3) doesn't' provide anyway to specify different ways to store contacts (personal address book vs. public, etc). I remember having this capacity some time in the past, but don't know why not now. No PAB files exist anywhere on my C: drive. 2. Thanks for the tip about Addins; I'm looking for an Access 2000 version, so will do some exploring on MS. 3. Other responders have clued me in to how to push contact/email data from Access to Outlook, but it is not clear what happens if this is done repeatedly (e.g. once a day with the intent of one-way synchronization). Does Jane Doe keep getting more records added, or does Jane Doe's record get overwritten? If the latter, is it based on an exact match of some fields? Or must my code first wipe out all contacts in the target location before pushing a new export of data? Steve Capistrant Symphony Information Services 212 3rd Avenue North Minneapolis, MN 55401 www.symphonyinfo.com Phone: 612-333-1311 Fax: 612-333-5572 Email: scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 7:47 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Pushing to Outlook A few things. First, you can have the users put personal contacts into their Personal Address Book (.pab files). Next, there are two ways to manipulate Outlook Contacts...one is through MAPI (or CDO), which isn't that tough, but it does require a bit of coding... The other, and I am not sure if it let's you write back to the source, but there are Add-ins for Access which let you 'link' tables to Exchange and PST files. They are available from Microsoft. Which version of Access are you using, I have the Add-in for 97. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Steve Capistrant [mailto:scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com] Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 2:14 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Pushing to Outlook Hi folks. Looking for tips on how to push contact info from Access into Outlook. What are the main elements in the Outlook object model that let me add and delete contact items from VBA in Access? (I don't currently need the ability to edit existing items -- too messy to think about for Monday). The bottom line task: delete all existing contact info from Outlook and repopulate with the fresh info from an Access db. But, the user also needs to have a way to independently manage their PERSONAL contacts without getting overwritten. Separate pst files, I imagine? Thank you.... Steve Capistrant Symphony Information Services 212 3rd Avenue North Minneapolis, MN 55401 www.symphonyinfo.com Phone: 612-333-1311 Fax: 612-333-5572 Email: scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com ______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From melissasener at earthlink.net Thu Apr 17 09:45:50 2003 From: melissasener at earthlink.net (Melissa F. Sener) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 07:45:50 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] new dba Web Site page ...gggggrrreat!!!!!! In-Reply-To: <004101c30472$1b782f70$6101a8c0@amd2k512> Message-ID: WOW! I know I don't post much but that website is really nice! Melissa -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of William Hindman Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 4:44 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] new dba Web Site page ...gggggrrreat!!!!!! ...a fellow list member just let me know that the newest version of dba's front end has been posted on the website and imnsho ...after looking at it, I'm IMPRESSED!!! ...it is by far the most professional and group building effort I've seen in all the time I've been associated with AccessD ...not because someone used some of my words in it but ...well hell ...go to http://databaseadvisors.com and see it for yourself ...go now ...I mean it ...whoever's responsible for this idea and its implementation deserves a LOT of praise from all of us!!!!!! William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us Thu Apr 17 09:44:35 2003 From: Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us (Gowey Mike W) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 08:44:35 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Oracle into Access Message-ID: <05EBB8A3BEB95B4F8216BE4EF4860778010753@srciml1.ds.doc.state.or.us> Thanks Gary, So when I open a Pass thru query, how do I call a function that is built on the Oracle side? On the Oracle side there is a package that contains several functions that changes data in the tables. I want to be able to call one of these functions and have it run. Most of these functions manipulate records in the tables by moving records from one table to another. A Brief description of what is happening: In access I give the user the ability to correct problems with a record and once the record is corrected the function from Oracle needs to be called so that it can move that record to the permanent table and remove it from the temp table. It also has code that checks the record again for accuracy and inputs a record in a History table with what fields where changed. Mike Gowey, MCP Technical Support Analyst SRCI ISSD Team Leader (541)881-4808 -----Original Message----- From: Gary Kjos [mailto:garykjos at hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:21 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Oracle into Access Hi Mike, Not entirely clear on what a "Custome Package" is in Oracle. But I use Access front ends to Oracle databases every day, primarily using ODBC Linked tables. I have a couple applications that I use pass-through queries. With a pass-through query you create an Oracle SQL statment and it is then sent directly to Oracle without interpretation by Access. This allows you to do anything you could do using another SQL to Oracle interface, including calling Oracle Stored Procedures or custom functions. So I think the answer to your question is YES. Have a look in the Access help on "Pass-Through Query" and perhaps it will get you started. Gary Kjos garykjos at hotmail.com >From: "Gowey Mike W" >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >To: >Subject: [AccessD] Oracle into Access >Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 09:59:33 -0600 > > >Hi Everyone, > >Has anyone know if it is possible to call a custome package from Oracle >and run it in Access? Is this possible? > >Thanks, > >Mike Gowey, MCP >Technical Support Analyst >SRCI ISSD Team Leader > >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Thu Apr 17 11:26:16 2003 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 16:26:16 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] AllowEdits Message-ID: <20030417152612.B57E21D67F8@mrburns.nildram.co.uk> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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They don't seem to want to do that :o) The reason I do this is because I reuse my applications for a number of clients and make modifications for each. I know my clients and their employees quite well. My clients are a cheap bunch. Although my contacts wouldn't do it, their employees would take my unprotected code and "lend" it to other people in their field of work without much thought. I wrote an app once which my "clientele" was demanding out of the state government. I was assured by my regular govt. clients that their cohorts would snap it up. It was a stand alone (runtime) app which replaced a DOS based program the state had given them to do a certain task. I showed the app at a state convention of employees and actually got a rousing applause (and much interest). It returned a time savings on an average of 58% for the task at hand. I originally offered the state agency distributing the DOS app. complete rights to app. for distribution to anyone for $10k. The couldn't "afford" it, budget crunch and the like. I marketed it directly to the potential clients for $240, I actually included a DEMO on CD. I had 12 of the 64 potential clients buy it! The others tried to do emulate it on their own in Excel, Access, etc. That was three years ago. None of them were successful in emulating it. The state has a new point of contact for this program and recently asked me to market my product to the people not using it! Needless to say I didn't make any money on it. I had put < $4k into the development and marketing (it wasn't a complicated app by any means). The one redeeming issue (and the reason I bore you with this story) is that no one successfully stole my code. But they did try! I haf vays of making zem talk }~) I still support this app but it doesn't call for much. I actually have a new customer for it this year! I had almost forgotten about the darn thing! Whew-hoo. $240 richer - break out the champagne ;o) I had one application out for the last year or so where I couldn't use an mde because I did direct mail merges with Word 2k and it was an A97 db. W2k can't read an A97 mde so I had to lock that bugger down hard. (With Brett Barabash's help, I set it up to dump the merge data to a text file for Word. Thanks again Brett!) Now that app is an mde! That's 200 less employees that can give my application away :o) JB -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stephen Bond Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 5:04 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs How many independent contractors in the group provide the Access FE to their customers either as an MDE, or, as a secured MDB, so (a) changes can't be made, and, (b) the VBA is password protected? I have my reasons for doing so, (fixing some amateur's efforts to add an enhancement; protecting my not small investment in training and upskilling; these two will do to start) and of course there are arguments against. Can I have some input please. Both sides of the argument are welcome. TIA Stephen Bond _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Thu Apr 17 11:59:06 2003 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 16:59:06 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs Message-ID: <20030417155902.2CF3D1D68CC@mrburns.nildram.co.uk> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From garykjos at hotmail.com Thu Apr 17 11:46:59 2003 From: garykjos at hotmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 11:46:59 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Oracle into Access Message-ID: Well, you would do it the same way you would in an SQL statement directly to Oracle. If it can't be done in an SQL statement than this probably isn't gonna work for what you need. What I do when I do a pass through query is to fire up SQL+ and my text editor and create the SQL in the text editor and paste it into SQL+ to run/test it and keep tweaking until it's working. Then I go into Access and create a new query and select SQL-Specific and then Pass-through and you will be given a completely blank window to paste the Oracle format SQL into. The biggest problem I had in getting it going the first time was getting the ODBC Connection string set correctly. Then I found the wizard building for the ODBC Connection String (the three dots elipsis thing at the right of the field in the query properties should have clued me in - a big "duh" on my part) and instead of taking pot shots at what I thought should be in there I let the wizard build the connection string for me and it's worked well ever since. You still need to set up the ODBC data source to the Oracle database. But, if it's not doable in an Oracle SQL statement than this isn't the thing for what you're trying to do. Gary Kjos garykjos at hotmail.com >From: "Gowey Mike W" >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >To: >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Oracle into Access >Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 08:44:35 -0600 > >Thanks Gary, > >So when I open a Pass thru query, how do I call a function that is built >on the Oracle side? On the Oracle side there is a package that contains >several functions that changes data in the tables. I want to be able to >call one of these functions and have it run. Most of these functions >manipulate records in the tables by moving records from one table to >another. > >A Brief description of what is happening: In access I give the user the >ability to correct problems with a record and once the record is >corrected the function from Oracle needs to be called so that it can >move that record to the permanent table and remove it from the temp >table. It also has code that checks the record again for accuracy and >inputs a record in a History table with what fields where changed. > >Mike Gowey, MCP >Technical Support Analyst >SRCI ISSD Team Leader >(541)881-4808 > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Gary Kjos [mailto:garykjos at hotmail.com] >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:21 AM >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Oracle into Access > > >Hi Mike, > >Not entirely clear on what a "Custome Package" is in Oracle. But I use >Access front ends to Oracle databases every day, primarily using ODBC >Linked >tables. I have a couple applications that I use pass-through queries. >With a >pass-through query you create an Oracle SQL statment and it is then sent > >directly to Oracle without interpretation by Access. This allows you to >do >anything you could do using another SQL to Oracle interface, including >calling Oracle Stored Procedures or custom functions. So I think the >answer >to your question is YES. > >Have a look in the Access help on "Pass-Through Query" and perhaps it >will >get you started. > >Gary Kjos >garykjos at hotmail.com > > > > > > >From: "Gowey Mike W" > >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > >To: > >Subject: [AccessD] Oracle into Access > >Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 09:59:33 -0600 > > > > > >Hi Everyone, > > > >Has anyone know if it is possible to call a custome package from Oracle > > >and run it in Access? Is this possible? > > > >Thanks, > > > >Mike Gowey, MCP > >Technical Support Analyst > >SRCI ISSD Team Leader > > > >_______________________________________________ > >AccessD mailing list > >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Thu Apr 17 12:05:52 2003 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 10:05:52 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs Message-ID: You have led a charmed life indeed, Andy. It isn't the clueless users who cause problems, it's the ones who think they know something who can't resist tampering. Those in the first category have never caused me problems, but I build my apps with the second category in mind because I've seen (and had to deal with) the results when I didn't. :o{ Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 2:40 AM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs Nope. What I do is set each PC up to run the runtime not full Access. But that's only on their application icon. They've all got Access if they chose to use it, but it would have to be a deliberate act on their part. I can easily imagine environments in which I'd need to take more precautions, and if users started to muck about I'd do so. But, in all honesty, I'm fortunate to have users who: a) would not deliberately mess anyone around (they're too busy getting on with their own jobs) b) wouldn't know how to get into the code window or anything other than what I give them c) would be scared stiff if they accidentally found themselves in part of the database they didn't expect to (and would get out quick) d) would request a system change if they needed a report or analysis they didn't have I also have a master copy of the FE on the network and a "Recopy"icon on each desktop. If someone did mess up their FE all they have to do is hit that. And before anyone gets the impression I'm talking about one ideal company I'm not. I've been developing in Access since v2 at loads of companies and it has never been an issue. I say again that I'm not promoting this as always the way to go, it just happens to be my experience and we were asked to share ours. -- Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk --------- Original Message -------- From: "Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd." To: "AccessD at databaseadvisors.com" Subject: RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs Date: 17/04/03 08:23 Andy - do you password protect the code window if distributing the mdb? Kath Pelletti Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. Ph: 9505-6714 Fax: 9505-6430 SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au _____ _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Thu Apr 17 12:26:05 2003 From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK (Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 18:26:05 +0100 (BST) Subject: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1050600365.3e9ee3adcc1e7@hosea.qub.ac.uk> I would never trust a user with anything let alone a database. Martin Quoting Charlotte Foust : > You have led a charmed life indeed, Andy. It isn't the clueless users > who cause problems, it's the ones who think they know something who > can't resist tampering. Those in the first category have never caused > me problems, but I build my apps with the second category in mind > because I've seen (and had to deal with) the results when I didn't. > :o{ > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk] > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 2:40 AM > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > > > Nope. What I do is set each PC up to run the runtime not full > Access. But that's only on their application icon. They've all got > Access if they chose to use it, but it would have to be a deliberate > act > on their part. > I can easily imagine environments in which I'd need to take more > precautions, and if users started to muck about I'd do so. But, in all > honesty, I'm fortunate to have users who: > a) would not deliberately mess anyone around (they're too busy > getting on with their own jobs) > b) wouldn't know how to get into the code window or anything > other than what I give them > c) would be scared stiff if they accidentally found themselves > in part of the database they didn't expect to (and would get out > quick) > d) would request a system change if they needed a report or > analysis they didn't have > > I also have a master copy of the FE on the network and a > "Recopy"icon on each desktop. If someone did mess up their FE all they > have to do is hit that. > > And before anyone gets the impression I'm talking about one > ideal company I'm not. I've been developing in Access since v2 at > loads > of companies and it has never been an issue. I say again that I'm not > promoting this as always the way to go, it just happens to be my > experience and we were asked to share ours. > > -- > Andy Lacey > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > > > > > > --------- Original Message -------- > From: "Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd." > > To: "AccessD at databaseadvisors.com" > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > Date: 17/04/03 08:23 > > > Andy - do you password protect the code window if > distributing the mdb? > > > Kath Pelletti > Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. > Ph: 9505-6714 > Fax: 9505-6430 > SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au > > > _____ > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Thu Apr 17 12:43:00 2003 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 13:43:00 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] AllowEdits Message-ID: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF403897707@xlivmbx12.aig.com> In the past I have found that if AllowEdits is set (at runtime) AFTER any field on the form in question has been changed, then editing remains possible. Check for things like Date fields getting automatically populated. Lambert > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Lacey [SMTP:andy at minstersystems.co.uk] > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 12:26 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] AllowEdits > > I've a form with a number of subforms. In certain circumstances I want the > whole lot to be read-only. So I set the form and all subforms to > AllowEdits=False. Works fine EXCEPT on one of the subforms which continues > to allow changes. Debug shows its AllowEdits is False but I can edit it. > Any ideas why? > > -- > Andy Lacey > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > > > > > > --------- Original Message -------- > From: "Gary Kjos" > To: "accessd at databaseadvisors.com" > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Oracle into Access > Date: 17/04/03 13:23 > > > Hi Mike, > > Not entirely clear on what a "Custome Package" is in Oracle. But I > use > Access front ends to Oracle databases every day, primarily using > ODBC Linked > tables. I have a couple applications that I use pass-through > queries. With a > pass-through query you create an Oracle SQL statment and it is then > sent > directly to Oracle without interpretation by Access. This allows you > to do > anything you could do using another SQL to Oracle interface, > including > calling Oracle Stored Procedures or custom functions. So I think the > answer > to your question is YES. > > Have a look in the Access help on "Pass-Through Query" and perhaps > it will > get you started. > > Gary Kjos > garykjos at hotmail.com > > > > > > >From: "Gowey Mike W" > >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > >To: > >Subject: [AccessD] Oracle into Access > >Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 09:59:33 -0600 > > > > > >Hi Everyone, > > > >Has anyone know if it is possible to call a custome package from > Oracle > >and run it in Access? Is this possible? > > > >Thanks, > > > >Mike Gowey, MCP > >Technical Support Analyst > >SRCI ISSD Team Leader > > > >_______________________________________________ > >AccessD mailing list > >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >Website: > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > Website: > > > > > > << File: ATT10829531.txt >> From szeller at cce.umn.edu Thu Apr 17 13:58:37 2003 From: szeller at cce.umn.edu (Susan Zeller) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 13:58:37 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Select all items in listbox and build sql string Message-ID: I have some code from Arthur Fuller that makes a string out of all the selected items in a listbox. What I need now is to build a string out of All the items in the listbox whether they are selected or not. I'm not sure how to adapt the code I have. I'm guessing I need to do For 0 to the number of items in the listbox in some way, but not sure of the syntax for this. Here's what I have now: Dim intI As Integer, intX As Integer Dim strSQL As String With ctl For intI = 0 To .ItemsSelected.Count - 1 intX = ctl.ItemsSelected(intI) If intI > 0 Then strSQL = strSQL & ",'" & ctl.Column(0, intX) & "'" Else strSQL = "'" & ctl.Column(0, intX) & "'" End If Next intI End With -Susan Susan B. Zeller Office of Information Systems College of Continuing Education University of Minnesota 306 Wesbrook Hall 77 Pleasant Street SE Minneapolis, MN 55455 Phone: 612-626-4785 Fax: 612-625-2568 From tomadatn at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 17 14:57:53 2003 From: tomadatn at bellsouth.net (Tom Adams) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 14:57:53 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Access 2000 - ADP - Open View very slowwwww... References: Message-ID: <000301c3051b$a317aec0$6400000a@dogbert2k> Against Sql Server 7 with latest service packs running on an NT4 machine with the latest service packs. I've got a view that is based on 2 other views and has a Case statement in it. It runs in about 5-10 seconds in Enterprise Manager but is timing out/hanging up in Access. Any ideas??? Thanks - Tom From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com Thu Apr 17 15:01:51 2003 From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 16:01:51 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Multiselect List box Message-ID: Wow...I love this list...Ask, and ye shall receive. Sorry it took so long to respond, but this program is only running a tad bit late, so of course they had to stack me up with more s***!!! I love my job...I love my job...NOPE, NOT WORKING!!! Anyhow, I used the DoCmd.RunSQL method, because this is what I had in my head, and was trying unsuccessfully to do before I asked for help. It worked, but now I am trying to show what is selected and thusly, unselected, in an adjacent list box. I've got it going into the table, and that was my major concern, so the rest I imagine will come along. Worse comes to worse, for now I will leave the text box that I have on the form. I used this for testing purposes, but it acutally shows the correct info...only in an "ugly" format. Now I have to leave this, until Monday. Before y'all think that I am non-committed to my work, I would choose to work on this for the next three days straight, but I am not allowed to. Does this make sense? A company...actually a county government...not allowing an employee to work on a late project. We're not allowed into our offices any longer during the weekends, because of budget cuts. I love my job! I love my Job...damn! Still not working!!! I wonder how many times I've got to say it to start believing it! See y'all! Have a great weekend! Oh...and thanks again! John W Clark John W. Clark Computer Programmer / Asst. Network Administrator Niagara County Central Data Processing >>> stuart at lexacorp.com.pg 04/16/03 06:32PM >>> Lots of ways: Docmd.RunSQL .... dim varItm as string dim strBrand as string dim strSQL as sting For Each varItm In lstBrand.ItemsSelected strSQL = "INSERT INTO myTable (Fld1) Select '" & lstBrand.Column(0,varItm) & "'" docmd.runSQl strSQL Next varItm .... or DAO ... dim rs as recordset set rs= currentdb.openrecordset("myTable") For Each varItm In lstBrand.ItemsSelected rs.addnew rs(0) = lstBrand.Column(0,varItm) rs.update Next varItm .... or using John's code, you can split the string into array elements .... Dim myArray() myArray() = Split(strbrand,",") .... then do want you want with the array elements. On 16 Apr 2003 at 14:51, John Clark wrote: > But how would I take all the items and put them into another table? I > am thinking that I'll have to write a routine to separate them and put > them into individual records...or I will have to separate a record > later. There are a ton of directions as to how one goes about creating > a multisel. list, but not much as to how to manipulate the data once > its entered. > > >>> papparuff at attbi.com 04/16/03 11:47AM >>> > Using Multiselect listboxes are not as difficult as you are making > them out to be. Here's some simple code: > > dim varItm as string > dim strBrand as string > > strBrand = "" > ' Get the value of the first column of all items > ' selected in a list box > For Each varItm In lstBrand.ItemsSelected > strBrand = strBrand & lstBrand.Column(0, varItm) & ", " > Next varItm > > John V. Ruff - The Eternal Optimist :-) > Always Looking For Contract Opportunities > > "Commit to the Lord whatever you do, > and your plans will succeed." Proverbs 16:3 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 6:50 AM To: > accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Multiselect List box > > > I am working on a program in A2K, and I may have a need to use a > multiselect > list box. Actually, I think it would be best, because the choice have > the potential to be altered in the future. However, I have never used > multiselects before, and I am wondering how much trouble I'm getting > into. > > I am all for diving in and learning something new, but I am really > pressed for time here...this program must be put into operation by May > 1st, and I am also playing a major part of moving an office of 200+ > people to a new building, which starts on the 24th...I have to move > and setup their server and all routers. > > Should I just make the check boxes for now? Or are the multiselects > easier than I am making them out to be? > > I don't think I'd have a problem with their actual setup, but taking > the selections and putting them into the table is where I am a little > confused. > > Thanks! > > John W Clark > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Thu Apr 17 15:29:50 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 15:29:50 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Multiselect List box Message-ID: John, They are not allowing you into your office over the Easter weekend because they are afraid you will sabotage the computers if there is nobody around to watch you! As if you couldn't sabotage the computers during the workday when somebody is watching you! Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: John Clark [mailto:John.Clark at niagaracounty.com] Sent: Thursday 2003 Apr 17 15:02 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Multiselect List box Now I have to leave this, until Monday. Before y'all think that I am non-committed to my work, I would choose to work on this for the next three days straight, but I am not allowed to. Does this make sense? A company...actually a county government...not allowing an employee to work on a late project. We're not allowed into our offices any longer during the weekends, because of budget cuts. I love my job! I love my Job...damn! Still not working!!! I wonder how many times I've got to say it to start believing it! See y'all! Have a great weekend! Oh...and thanks again! John W Clark John W. Clark Computer Programmer / Asst. Network Administrator Niagara County Central Data Processing From Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Thu Apr 17 15:34:48 2003 From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK (Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 21:34:48 +0100 (BST) Subject: [AccessD] Multiselect List box In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1050611688.3e9f0fe8a8173@hosea.qub.ac.uk> My office is shut for 9 days for Easter. I know its a tough old job but someone has to do it. Martin From hsimpson88 at hotmail.com Thu Apr 17 15:40:47 2003 From: hsimpson88 at hotmail.com (Henry Simpson) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 14:40:47 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Select all items in listbox and build sql string Message-ID: Susan: Why wouldn't the row source of the ListBox alone work? Are you making a delimited list for use in an IN(...) clause? If so, you could just drop the row source in the IN clause if it is an SQL string. If you have too many items selected in the list, the string you build through concatenation could exceed the 2k character limit of a dynamically generated SQL string. At that point it would be necessary to use a saved querydef and change its SQL property. To build a string, you iterate from 0 to ctl.ListCount -1 instead of the iterating ItemsSelected collection. Your usage of ctl before .column is redundant as it is inside a With ctl code block. Hen >From: "Susan Zeller" >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >To: >Subject: [AccessD] Select all items in listbox and build sql string >Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 13:58:37 -0500 > >I have some code from Arthur Fuller that makes a string out of all the >selected items in a listbox. What I need now is to build a string out >of All the items in the listbox whether they are selected or not. I'm >not sure how to adapt the code I have. I'm guessing I need to do For 0 >to the number of items in the listbox in some way, but not sure of the >syntax for this. Here's what I have now: > > Dim intI As Integer, intX As Integer > Dim strSQL As String > > With ctl > For intI = 0 To .ItemsSelected.Count - 1 > intX = ctl.ItemsSelected(intI) > If intI > 0 Then > strSQL = strSQL & ",'" & ctl.Column(0, intX) & "'" > Else > strSQL = "'" & ctl.Column(0, intX) & "'" > End If > Next intI > End With > >-Susan > > >Susan B. Zeller >Office of Information Systems >College of Continuing Education >University of Minnesota >306 Wesbrook Hall >77 Pleasant Street SE >Minneapolis, MN 55455 >Phone: 612-626-4785 >Fax: 612-625-2568 _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From harkins at iglou.com Thu Apr 17 15:47:16 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 16:47:16 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Multiselect List box References: <1050611688.3e9f0fe8a8173@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <03ec01c30522$8e55cb00$f1ecffcc@SusanOne> You haven't been slapped lately and made to like it, have you? Susan H. > My office is shut for 9 days for Easter. I know its a tough old job but > someone has to do it. > From szeller at cce.umn.edu Thu Apr 17 15:58:14 2003 From: szeller at cce.umn.edu (Susan Zeller) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 15:58:14 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Select all items in listbox and build sql string Message-ID: Henry, Great, that's what I needed. Yes, I'm trying to build a delimited list for use in an IN clause. I'm passing the in clause as an input parameter to a sproc in Sql Server 2000. I'm in an adp. I can't just drop the in clause b/c the list box values are not all the values for the field in question. There is another way around this that I am considering. I didn't know about the 2k limit but I don't think that is an issue with SQL server. --Susan -----Original Message----- From: Henry Simpson [mailto:hsimpson88 at hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 3:41 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Select all items in listbox and build sql string Susan: Why wouldn't the row source of the ListBox alone work? Are you making a delimited list for use in an IN(...) clause? If so, you could just drop the row source in the IN clause if it is an SQL string. If you have too many items selected in the list, the string you build through concatenation could exceed the 2k character limit of a dynamically generated SQL string. At that point it would be necessary to use a saved querydef and change its SQL property. To build a string, you iterate from 0 to ctl.ListCount -1 instead of the iterating ItemsSelected collection. Your usage of ctl before .column is redundant as it is inside a With ctl code block. Hen >From: "Susan Zeller" >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >To: >Subject: [AccessD] Select all items in listbox and build sql string >Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 13:58:37 -0500 > >I have some code from Arthur Fuller that makes a string out of all the >selected items in a listbox. What I need now is to build a string out >of All the items in the listbox whether they are selected or not. I'm >not sure how to adapt the code I have. I'm guessing I need to do For 0 >to the number of items in the listbox in some way, but not sure of the >syntax for this. Here's what I have now: > > Dim intI As Integer, intX As Integer > Dim strSQL As String > > With ctl > For intI = 0 To .ItemsSelected.Count - 1 > intX = ctl.ItemsSelected(intI) > If intI > 0 Then > strSQL = strSQL & ",'" & ctl.Column(0, intX) & "'" > Else > strSQL = "'" & ctl.Column(0, intX) & "'" > End If > Next intI > End With > >-Susan > > >Susan B. Zeller >Office of Information Systems >College of Continuing Education >University of Minnesota >306 Wesbrook Hall >77 Pleasant Street SE >Minneapolis, MN 55455 >Phone: 612-626-4785 >Fax: 612-625-2568 _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Thu Apr 17 16:15:12 2003 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 17:15:12 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Select all items in listbox and build sql string Message-ID: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF40389770F@xlivmbx12.aig.com> The 2k limit applies to the Access Listbox control's rowsource property. It has nothing to do with the back end. > -----Original Message----- > From: Susan Zeller [SMTP:szeller at cce.umn.edu] > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 4:58 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Select all items in listbox and build sql > string > > Henry, > > Great, that's what I needed. > > Yes, I'm trying to build a delimited list for use in an IN clause. I'm > passing the in clause as an input parameter to a sproc in Sql Server > 2000. I'm in an adp. I can't just drop the in clause b/c the list box > values are not all the values for the field in question. There is > another way around this that I am considering. I didn't know about the > 2k limit but I don't think that is an issue with SQL server. > > --Susan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Henry Simpson [mailto:hsimpson88 at hotmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 3:41 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Select all items in listbox and build sql string > > > Susan: > > Why wouldn't the row source of the ListBox alone work? Are you making a > > delimited list for use in an IN(...) clause? If so, you could just drop > the > row source in the IN clause if it is an SQL string. > > If you have too many items selected in the list, the string you build > through concatenation could exceed the 2k character limit of a > dynamically > generated SQL string. At that point it would be necessary to use a > saved > querydef and change its SQL property. > > To build a string, you iterate from 0 to ctl.ListCount -1 instead of the > > iterating ItemsSelected collection. > > Your usage of ctl before .column is redundant as it is inside a With ctl > code block. > > Hen > > > >From: "Susan Zeller" > >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > >To: > >Subject: [AccessD] Select all items in listbox and build sql string > >Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 13:58:37 -0500 > > > >I have some code from Arthur Fuller that makes a string out of all the > >selected items in a listbox. What I need now is to build a string out > >of All the items in the listbox whether they are selected or not. I'm > >not sure how to adapt the code I have. I'm guessing I need to do For 0 > > >to the number of items in the listbox in some way, but not sure of the > >syntax for this. Here's what I have now: > > > > Dim intI As Integer, intX As Integer > > Dim strSQL As String > > > > With ctl > > For intI = 0 To .ItemsSelected.Count - 1 > > intX = ctl.ItemsSelected(intI) > > If intI > 0 Then > > strSQL = strSQL & ",'" & ctl.Column(0, intX) & "'" > > Else > > strSQL = "'" & ctl.Column(0, intX) & "'" > > End If > > Next intI > > End With > > > >-Susan > > > > > >Susan B. Zeller > >Office of Information Systems > >College of Continuing Education > >University of Minnesota > >306 Wesbrook Hall > >77 Pleasant Street SE > >Minneapolis, MN 55455 > >Phone: 612-626-4785 > >Fax: 612-625-2568 > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From artful at rogers.com Thu Apr 17 16:47:38 2003 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 17:47:38 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Select all items in listbox and build sql string In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <048901c3052a$f7001950$8e01a8c0@Rock> You are so gracious, Susan. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Zeller Sent: April 17, 2003 2:59 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Select all items in listbox and build sql string I have some code from Arthur Fuller that makes a string out of all the selected items in a listbox. From artful at rogers.com Thu Apr 17 16:48:50 2003 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 17:48:50 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Access 2000 - ADP - Open View very slowwwww... In-Reply-To: <000301c3051b$a317aec0$6400000a@dogbert2k> Message-ID: <048a01c3052b$21c447b0$8e01a8c0@Rock> 1. Up the timeout value. 2. Replace the view with a sproc. A. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tom Adams Sent: April 17, 2003 3:58 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Access 2000 - ADP - Open View very slowwwww... Against Sql Server 7 with latest service packs running on an NT4 machine with the latest service packs. I've got a view that is based on 2 other views and has a Case statement in it. It runs in about 5-10 seconds in Enterprise Manager but is timing out/hanging up in Access. Any ideas??? From DWUTKA at marlow.com Thu Apr 17 17:02:47 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 17:02:47 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] autonumber Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82757@main2.marlow.com> True, in a bound form that's an issue. . However, if you don't put anything into the db until after the user 'submits' the record, then that is not an issue either. I'm not saying I have ever 'required' an AN to be truly incremented, in fact I would say that half of my AN's are set up to be Random anyways. Drew > -----Original Message----- > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:32 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber > > Yea, but the user can "escape out" of a record they don't want to finish. > The autonumber is created when the first piece of info is entered (in > bound forms) and thus that number is used, and then discarded. It's GONNA > happen! > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 5:45 AM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber > > > Aha, but if you develop a system that doesn't delete a record, then the AN > will always be incremented. (Thus, the resetting is needed during > development, so that it kicks to 1, on the first 'official' record). > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 9:10 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber > > > Brenda, > > M$ only guarantees that an autonumber will be unique. It does not > guarantee that it will increment by one each time. Users, and > especially auditors, will question you as to why there are gaps in the > numbering scheme. What are you going to say when the auditors ask you > where is the paperwork for the missing numbers? > > Charles Wortz > Software Development Division > Texas Education Agency > 1701 N. Congress Ave > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > 512-463-9493 > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Reische, Brenda L. [mailto:reische at mdh.org] > Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 16 08:12 > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber > > Charles, > The archives appear to be down right now. Care to enlighten me? I let > the users see the autonumber field. In my ambulance services database, > that is the unique run id number that we use - it prints on the medical > record and > everything... Why is this a cardinal sin? > > Thanks, > Brenda Reische > McDonough District Hospital > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:46 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber > > John, > > I cannot let this pass without asking why do you care? You are not > committing the cardinal sin of allowing you users to see the autonumber > field are you? If so, check the archives on why this is a > cardinal sin. > > Charles Wortz > Software Development Division > Texas Education Agency > 1701 N. Congress Ave > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > 512-463-9493 > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] > Sent: Wednesday 2003 Apr 16 05:02 > To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com ' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber > > A make table query should already 'reset' the AutoNumber, since it is > going to make a new table. An append query can be used to 'set' numbers > within an AutoNumber field, however, it doesn't reset the counter, it > can just 'ignore' it. If you delete the data in a table, to resent the > AutoNumber counter, compact the database. It will reset the counter (on > an incremental > AN) to the highest number plus 1 (or 1, if there are no records > remaining). > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Eget > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > Sent: 4/16/03 4:43 AM > Subject: [AccessD] autonumber > > Is there a way to reset the autonumber to 1 of a make table query or an > append or a table I just finished deleting the information from? John > <> > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > ----------------------------------------------------- > eMailBoss puts you in command of your email. > Get your copy today at http://www.eMailBoss.com << File: ATT49963.txt >> From DWUTKA at marlow.com Thu Apr 17 17:07:11 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 17:07:11 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] autonumber Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82758@main2.marlow.com> Far from normal. We have the furniture in, and mostly in place. However, there is a ton of stuff to carry over still. (I haven't setup a single computer yet. I'll be doing that this weekend. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 8:14 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber Drew, So you have everything back to normal in your new pad and are just sitting around twiddling your thumbs? As I said in another post, auditors do not like to see missing numbers. So why try to explain to them when you can use a real incremental number for humans(?) and save the AN for RI purposes. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Thursday 2003 Apr 17 04:43 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] autonumber I'll have to look through the archives myself on this one. (I'll have them running this weekend...for me! SBC says my DSL will be up next Thursday (barely a week, yippie!)). (Actually, in case anyone forgot, http://intranet.marlow.com/AccessD still works...it just doesn't have anything after this past January/December (and it's not as fast as what I had online for a whopping 36 hours...)) I always thought that the only real cardinal sin with AN's, was to use them as a true incremental value. (ie, expecting that if there is a 2 and a 4, that there is also a 3). I personally don't see any harm is using the AN for purposes other then a key, nor do I see any harm with showing the user an AN, though a lot of times, a user just wants a number, so it doesn't matter if it's an AN, or something else. I know I probably just opened a HUGE can of worms, but heck, I had intermittent List time (been busy with other things), however since 11 pm on the 15th (it's now 4 am on the 17th), there has only been 70 posts.....come on folks...that's pathetic? JC, what can we argue about? We need more posts! Drew _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Thu Apr 17 17:08:57 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 17:08:57 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Pushing to Outlook Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82759@main2.marlow.com> In Outlook, click Tools, then Services. Then 'add' a service. One of the services you can add is 'Personal Address Book', which will prompt you where you want to save the .pab file. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Steve Capistrant [mailto:scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com] Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 9:42 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Pushing to Outlook Drew, 1. A PAB issue is puzzling me. My version of Outlook (2000 SP-3) doesn't' provide anyway to specify different ways to store contacts (personal address book vs. public, etc). I remember having this capacity some time in the past, but don't know why not now. No PAB files exist anywhere on my C: drive. 2. Thanks for the tip about Addins; I'm looking for an Access 2000 version, so will do some exploring on MS. 3. Other responders have clued me in to how to push contact/email data from Access to Outlook, but it is not clear what happens if this is done repeatedly (e.g. once a day with the intent of one-way synchronization). Does Jane Doe keep getting more records added, or does Jane Doe's record get overwritten? If the latter, is it based on an exact match of some fields? Or must my code first wipe out all contacts in the target location before pushing a new export of data? Steve Capistrant Symphony Information Services 212 3rd Avenue North Minneapolis, MN 55401 www.symphonyinfo.com Phone: 612-333-1311 Fax: 612-333-5572 Email: scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 7:47 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Pushing to Outlook A few things. First, you can have the users put personal contacts into their Personal Address Book (.pab files). Next, there are two ways to manipulate Outlook Contacts...one is through MAPI (or CDO), which isn't that tough, but it does require a bit of coding... The other, and I am not sure if it let's you write back to the source, but there are Add-ins for Access which let you 'link' tables to Exchange and PST files. They are available from Microsoft. Which version of Access are you using, I have the Add-in for 97. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Steve Capistrant [mailto:scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com] Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 2:14 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Pushing to Outlook Hi folks. Looking for tips on how to push contact info from Access into Outlook. What are the main elements in the Outlook object model that let me add and delete contact items from VBA in Access? (I don't currently need the ability to edit existing items -- too messy to think about for Monday). The bottom line task: delete all existing contact info from Outlook and repopulate with the fresh info from an Access db. But, the user also needs to have a way to independently manage their PERSONAL contacts without getting overwritten. Separate pst files, I imagine? Thank you.... Steve Capistrant Symphony Information Services 212 3rd Avenue North Minneapolis, MN 55401 www.symphonyinfo.com Phone: 612-333-1311 Fax: 612-333-5572 Email: scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com ______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at marlow.com Thu Apr 17 17:11:48 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 17:11:48 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Pushing to Outlook Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D8275A@main2.marlow.com> Also, here's a start: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;196865 Drew -----Original Message----- From: Steve Capistrant [mailto:scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com] Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 9:42 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Pushing to Outlook Drew, 1. A PAB issue is puzzling me. My version of Outlook (2000 SP-3) doesn't' provide anyway to specify different ways to store contacts (personal address book vs. public, etc). I remember having this capacity some time in the past, but don't know why not now. No PAB files exist anywhere on my C: drive. 2. Thanks for the tip about Addins; I'm looking for an Access 2000 version, so will do some exploring on MS. 3. Other responders have clued me in to how to push contact/email data from Access to Outlook, but it is not clear what happens if this is done repeatedly (e.g. once a day with the intent of one-way synchronization). Does Jane Doe keep getting more records added, or does Jane Doe's record get overwritten? If the latter, is it based on an exact match of some fields? Or must my code first wipe out all contacts in the target location before pushing a new export of data? Steve Capistrant Symphony Information Services 212 3rd Avenue North Minneapolis, MN 55401 www.symphonyinfo.com Phone: 612-333-1311 Fax: 612-333-5572 Email: scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 7:47 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Pushing to Outlook A few things. First, you can have the users put personal contacts into their Personal Address Book (.pab files). Next, there are two ways to manipulate Outlook Contacts...one is through MAPI (or CDO), which isn't that tough, but it does require a bit of coding... The other, and I am not sure if it let's you write back to the source, but there are Add-ins for Access which let you 'link' tables to Exchange and PST files. They are available from Microsoft. Which version of Access are you using, I have the Add-in for 97. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Steve Capistrant [mailto:scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com] Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 2:14 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Pushing to Outlook Hi folks. Looking for tips on how to push contact info from Access into Outlook. What are the main elements in the Outlook object model that let me add and delete contact items from VBA in Access? (I don't currently need the ability to edit existing items -- too messy to think about for Monday). The bottom line task: delete all existing contact info from Outlook and repopulate with the fresh info from an Access db. But, the user also needs to have a way to independently manage their PERSONAL contacts without getting overwritten. Separate pst files, I imagine? Thank you.... Steve Capistrant Symphony Information Services 212 3rd Avenue North Minneapolis, MN 55401 www.symphonyinfo.com Phone: 612-333-1311 Fax: 612-333-5572 Email: scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com ______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From my.lists at verizon.net Thu Apr 17 18:08:10 2003 From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 16:08:10 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Access 2000 - ADP - Open View very slowwwww... References: <000301c3051b$a317aec0$6400000a@dogbert2k> Message-ID: <00e101c30536$37640320$b615010a@FHTAPIA> Note: Sprocs run faster than views in SQL Server, that's because the engine keeps the compiled version in cache and gives better performance. IIRC, the views are not indexed, thus you hitting the previous views based of indexed tables you are taking a performance hits... try posting the query (view) on the sqlserver list for more analysis :) -Francisco http://rcm.netfirms.com On Thursday, April 17, 2003 12:57 PM [GMT-8], Tom Adams wrote: : Against Sql Server 7 with latest service packs running on an NT4 : machine with the latest service packs. : : I've got a view that is based on 2 other views and has a Case : statement in it. : : It runs in about 5-10 seconds in Enterprise Manager but is timing : out/hanging up in Access. : : Any ideas??? : : Thanks - Tom : : : _______________________________________________ : AccessD mailing list : AccessD at databaseadvisors.com : http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd : Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From my.lists at verizon.net Thu Apr 17 18:08:10 2003 From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 16:08:10 -0700 Subject: [dba-SQLServer] Re: [AccessD] Access 2000 - ADP - Open View very slowwwww... References: <000301c3051b$a317aec0$6400000a@dogbert2k> Message-ID: <00e101c30536$37640320$b615010a@FHTAPIA> Note: Sprocs run faster than views in SQL Server, that's because the engine keeps the compiled version in cache and gives better performance. IIRC, the views are not indexed, thus you hitting the previous views based of indexed tables you are taking a performance hits... try posting the query (view) on the sqlserver list for more analysis :) -Francisco http://rcm.netfirms.com On Thursday, April 17, 2003 12:57 PM [GMT-8], Tom Adams wrote: : Against Sql Server 7 with latest service packs running on an NT4 : machine with the latest service packs. : : I've got a view that is based on 2 other views and has a Case : statement in it. : : It runs in about 5-10 seconds in Enterprise Manager but is timing : out/hanging up in Access. : : Any ideas??? : : Thanks - Tom : : : _______________________________________________ : AccessD mailing list : AccessD at databaseadvisors.com : http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd : Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ dba-SQLServer mailing list dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-sqlserver http://www.databaseadvisors.com From hsimpson88 at hotmail.com Thu Apr 17 19:22:11 2003 From: hsimpson88 at hotmail.com (Henry Simpson) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 18:22:11 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Select all items in listbox and build sql string Message-ID: If you want all the items in the list box and the rowsource is something like "Select FullName FROM tblContact Order By FullName;" and you wanted all the items in the list box in an IN clause, then in Access you can use the rowsource as a subquery inside the IN clause like: WHERE ... IN (Select FullName FROM tblContact Order By FullName;) I suppose when you are passing as a parameter to a stored procedure an SQL string, a rowsource from a local database won't work and you need a delimited list of values. I'm do not know the rules of stored procedures but the 2k limit applies to form recordsources as well as list and combo sources in Access 97. You may create a longer recordset SQL string in code and open it successfully or you can use a longer SQL statement to set a querydef SQL property. I don't understand the comment about having nothing to do with the back end. Hen >From: "Heenan, Lambert" >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >To: "'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'" >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Select all items in listbox and build sql string >Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 17:15:12 -0400 > >The 2k limit applies to the Access Listbox control's rowsource property. It >has nothing to do with the back end. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Susan Zeller [SMTP:szeller at cce.umn.edu] > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 4:58 PM > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Select all items in listbox and build sql > > string > > > > Henry, > > > > Great, that's what I needed. > > > > Yes, I'm trying to build a delimited list for use in an IN clause. I'm > > passing the in clause as an input parameter to a sproc in Sql Server > > 2000. I'm in an adp. I can't just drop the in clause b/c the list box > > values are not all the values for the field in question. There is > > another way around this that I am considering. I didn't know about the > > 2k limit but I don't think that is an issue with SQL server. > > > > --Susan > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Henry Simpson [mailto:hsimpson88 at hotmail.com] > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 3:41 PM > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Select all items in listbox and build sql string > > > > > > Susan: > > > > Why wouldn't the row source of the ListBox alone work? Are you making a > > > > delimited list for use in an IN(...) clause? If so, you could just drop > > the > > row source in the IN clause if it is an SQL string. > > > > If you have too many items selected in the list, the string you build > > through concatenation could exceed the 2k character limit of a > > dynamically > > generated SQL string. At that point it would be necessary to use a > > saved > > querydef and change its SQL property. > > > > To build a string, you iterate from 0 to ctl.ListCount -1 instead of the > > > > iterating ItemsSelected collection. > > > > Your usage of ctl before .column is redundant as it is inside a With ctl > > code block. > > > > Hen > > > > > > >From: "Susan Zeller" > > >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > >To: > > >Subject: [AccessD] Select all items in listbox and build sql string > > >Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 13:58:37 -0500 > > > > > >I have some code from Arthur Fuller that makes a string out of all the > > >selected items in a listbox. What I need now is to build a string out > > >of All the items in the listbox whether they are selected or not. I'm > > >not sure how to adapt the code I have. I'm guessing I need to do For 0 > > > > >to the number of items in the listbox in some way, but not sure of the > > >syntax for this. Here's what I have now: > > > > > > Dim intI As Integer, intX As Integer > > > Dim strSQL As String > > > > > > With ctl > > > For intI = 0 To .ItemsSelected.Count - 1 > > > intX = ctl.ItemsSelected(intI) > > > If intI > 0 Then > > > strSQL = strSQL & ",'" & ctl.Column(0, intX) & "'" > > > Else > > > strSQL = "'" & ctl.Column(0, intX) & "'" > > > End If > > > Next intI > > > End With > > > > > >-Susan > > > > > > > > >Susan B. Zeller > > >Office of Information Systems > > >College of Continuing Education > > >University of Minnesota > > >306 Wesbrook Hall > > >77 Pleasant Street SE > > >Minneapolis, MN 55455 > > >Phone: 612-626-4785 > > >Fax: 612-625-2568 _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com Thu Apr 17 20:43:02 2003 From: scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com (Steve Capistrant) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 20:43:02 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Pushing to Outlook In-Reply-To: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D8275A@main2.marlow.com> Message-ID: Drew, Thanks. Your "start" took me on a dizzying journey, and there's a lot on Access-to-Outlook Automation but pretty scattered. For anyone who's interested, here's a list of resources: MS Articles: ------------------ 208323 (and the related links) 146636 201096 208520 271225 Website Summaries ------------------ http://www.microsoft.com/officedev/articles/sampauto.htm http://archive.devx.com/upload/free/features/exchange/1999/99-2000/rb9900/rb 9900.asp http://www.microsoft.com/AccessDev/articles/outprog.htm http://www.slipstick.com/addins/index.htm (for utilities, rather than custom coding) Steve Capistrant Symphony Information Services 212 3rd Avenue North Minneapolis, MN 55401 www.symphonyinfo.com Phone: 612-333-1311 Fax: 612-333-5572 Email: scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 5:12 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Pushing to Outlook Also, here's a start: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;196865 Drew From harkins at iglou.com Thu Apr 17 20:48:09 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 21:48:09 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Pushing to Outlook References: Message-ID: <00c201c3054d$2d9fe4a0$fee6ffcc@SusanOne> Try Helen Feddema's site -- she's got a lot on Outlook automation. http://www.helenfeddema.com Susan H. > Drew, > > Thanks. Your "start" took me on a dizzying journey, and there's a lot on > Access-to-Outlook Automation but pretty scattered. For anyone who's > interested, here's a list of resources: > > MS Articles: > ------------------ > 208323 (and the related links) > 146636 > 201096 > 208520 > 271225 > > Website Summaries > ------------------ > http://www.microsoft.com/officedev/articles/sampauto.htm > http://archive.devx.com/upload/free/features/exchange/1999/99-2000/rb9900/rb > 9900.asp > http://www.microsoft.com/AccessDev/articles/outprog.htm > http://www.slipstick.com/addins/index.htm (for utilities, rather than custom > coding) > > Steve Capistrant > Symphony Information Services > 212 3rd Avenue North > Minneapolis, MN 55401 > www.symphonyinfo.com > Phone: 612-333-1311 > Fax: 612-333-5572 > Email: scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 5:12 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Pushing to Outlook > > > Also, here's a start: > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;196865 > > Drew > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From DWUTKA at marlow.com Thu Apr 17 22:51:09 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 22:51:09 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Pushing to Outlook Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D8275F@main2.marlow.com> I said it was a start......not a solution! -----Original Message----- From: Steve Capistrant [mailto:scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com] Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 8:43 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Pushing to Outlook Drew, Thanks. Your "start" took me on a dizzying journey, and there's a lot on Access-to-Outlook Automation but pretty scattered. For anyone who's interested, here's a list of resources: MS Articles: ------------------ 208323 (and the related links) 146636 201096 208520 271225 Website Summaries ------------------ http://www.microsoft.com/officedev/articles/sampauto.htm http://archive.devx.com/upload/free/features/exchange/1999/99-2000/rb9900/rb 9900.asp http://www.microsoft.com/AccessDev/articles/outprog.htm http://www.slipstick.com/addins/index.htm (for utilities, rather than custom coding) Steve Capistrant Symphony Information Services 212 3rd Avenue North Minneapolis, MN 55401 www.symphonyinfo.com Phone: 612-333-1311 Fax: 612-333-5572 Email: scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 5:12 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Pushing to Outlook Also, here's a start: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;196865 Drew _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Fri Apr 18 00:22:31 2003 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 22:22:31 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 References: <1050135248.3e97cad100064@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3E9F8B97.9040109@shaw.ca> Well I like some of web service features in Word 2003. But what I would like to know has anyone installed what Microsoft posted to its Web site for download last Friday; a first beta of its Visual Studio Tools for Office product, code-named "Trinity." These are supposed to be the hooks for Word and Excel 2003 to be used by VB.Net http://www.microsoft-watch.com/article2/0,4248,1021930,00.asp Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK wrote: >>From a developers stand point what do those of you working on the beta see as >the major new features. > >Martin > > > From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Fri Apr 18 03:13:12 2003 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 09:13:12 +0100 Subject: mde vs. mdb - was RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs In-Reply-To: <52339DF8DCA2A544AF660C8217EB7DCD0227F14D@MAILGATE.bury.gov.uk> Message-ID: <004801c30582$5b245160$b274d0d5@andypc> I use code in A97 to send reports to different printers, notably Acrobat Distiller. That involves programmatically opening the report in design mode. I'm pretty sure I couldn't do that in an mde. Anyone care to confirm that? Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Griffiths, Richard > Sent: 17 April 2003 14:56 > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: mde vs. mdb - was RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > > > Thanks, I know its not possible to create references on the > fly but what other things cannot be done? Richard > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Wortz, Charles [SMTP:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] > > Sent: 17 April 2003 14:37 > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: mde vs. mdb - was RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. > Unsecured FEs > > > > Richard, > > > > If you create an .mde then you must, repeat MUST, keep the > .mdb it was > > created from. The .mdb has all the human-readable code, > the .mde has > > only compiled machine-readable code in it. Thus, you cannot make > > changes in the .mde unless you like bit-twiddling or have a product > > that can reverse-engineer the .mde. > > > > Charles Wortz > > Software Development Division > > Texas Education Agency > > 1701 N. Congress Ave > > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > > 512-463-9493 > > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] > > Sent: Thursday 2003 Apr 17 03:07 > > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > > > > Further to this debate - are there any drawbacks/limitations or > > important considerations concerning functionality to take > into account > > when using an mde? > > > > Richard > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------------------------------ > This e-mail, together with any files transmitted with it, is > confidential and intended solely for the use of the > individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the > intended recipient, or the person responsible for delivering > to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received > this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, > forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly > prohibited without liability on our part. > > By responding to this e-mail it is accepted that your response > may be the subject of recording/monitoring to ensure compliance > with the Council?s ICT Security Policy > > If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the > sender. _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd > Website: > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Fri Apr 18 03:14:49 2003 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 09:14:49 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] AllowEdits In-Reply-To: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF403897707@xlivmbx12.aig.com> Message-ID: <004901c30582$95201160$b274d0d5@andypc> That'd certainly be the case Lambert. Thanks for the tip. Strange though that fields on other forms are also being populated and the AllowEdits works for them. I'll follow this tip up though. Thanks for responding. Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Heenan, Lambert > Sent: 17 April 2003 18:43 > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] AllowEdits > > > In the past I have found that if AllowEdits is set (at > runtime) AFTER any field on the form in question has been > changed, then editing remains possible. Check for things like > Date fields getting automatically populated. > > Lambert > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Andy Lacey [SMTP:andy at minstersystems.co.uk] > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 12:26 PM > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: [AccessD] AllowEdits > > > > I've a form with a number of subforms. In certain > circumstances I want > > the whole lot to be read-only. So I set the form and all > subforms to > > AllowEdits=False. Works fine EXCEPT on one of the subforms which > > continues to allow changes. Debug shows its AllowEdits is > False but I > > can edit it. Any ideas why? > > > > -- > > Andy Lacey > > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > > > > > > > > > > > > --------- Original Message -------- > > From: "Gary Kjos" > > To: "accessd at databaseadvisors.com" > > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Oracle into Access > > Date: 17/04/03 13:23 > > > > > > Hi Mike, > > > > Not entirely clear on what a "Custome Package" is in > Oracle. But I > > use > > Access front ends to Oracle databases every day, > primarily using ODBC > > Linked > > tables. I have a couple applications that I use > pass-through queries. > > With a > > pass-through query you create an Oracle SQL statment > and it is then > > sent > > directly to Oracle without interpretation by Access. > This allows you > > to do > > anything you could do using another SQL to Oracle interface, > > including > > calling Oracle Stored Procedures or custom functions. > So I think the > > answer > > to your question is YES. > > > > Have a look in the Access help on "Pass-Through Query" > and perhaps it > > will > > get you started. > > > > Gary Kjos > > garykjos at hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Gowey Mike W" > > >Reply-To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > > > >To: > > >Subject: [AccessD] Oracle into Access > > >Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 09:59:33 -0600 > > > > > > > > >Hi Everyone, > > > > > >Has anyone know if it is possible to call a custome > package from > > Oracle > > >and run it in Access? Is this possible? > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > >Mike Gowey, MCP > > >Technical Support Analyst > > >SRCI ISSD Team Leader > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >AccessD mailing list > > >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > >Website: > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > Website: > > > > > > > > > > > > << File: ATT10829531.txt >> > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd > Website: > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From Subscriptions at servicexp.com Fri Apr 18 06:05:12 2003 From: Subscriptions at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 07:05:12 -0400 Subject: mde vs. mdb - was RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs In-Reply-To: <004801c30582$5b245160$b274d0d5@andypc> Message-ID: You are correct, at least in 97 & A2K..... Robert Gracie -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Andy Lacey Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 4:13 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: mde vs. mdb - was RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs I use code in A97 to send reports to different printers, notably Acrobat Distiller. That involves programmatically opening the report in design mode. I'm pretty sure I couldn't do that in an mde. Anyone care to confirm that? Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk SNIP From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Fri Apr 18 06:33:11 2003 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 12:33:11 +0100 Subject: mde vs. mdb - was RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <004b01c3059e$4b2fc7a0$b274d0d5@andypc> Thanks Robert, that's what I thought. Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Robert Gracie > Sent: 18 April 2003 12:05 > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: mde vs. mdb - was RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > > > You are correct, at least in 97 & A2K..... > > > Robert Gracie > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Andy Lacey > Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 4:13 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: mde vs. mdb - was RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > > > I use code in A97 to send reports to different printers, > notably Acrobat Distiller. That involves programmatically > opening the report in design mode. I'm pretty sure I couldn't > do that in an mde. Anyone care to confirm that? > > Andy Lacey > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > > > SNIP > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd > Website: > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Fri Apr 18 07:29:06 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 07:29:06 -0500 Subject: mde vs. mdb - was RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs Message-ID: Andy, Your memory is not playing tricks on you, you are correct in that you cannot open an .mde to design mode. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk] Sent: Friday 2003 Apr 18 03:13 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: mde vs. mdb - was RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs I use code in A97 to send reports to different printers, notably Acrobat Distiller. That involves programmatically opening the report in design mode. I'm pretty sure I couldn't do that in an mde. Anyone care to confirm that? Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk From subs at solution-providers.ie Fri Apr 18 07:55:09 2003 From: subs at solution-providers.ie (Mark L. Breen) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 13:55:09 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Print and listening to an IP address References: <015601c303fc$c8f90230$87c2f63f@Desktop> Message-ID: <000c01c305a9$eef436e0$6e1118ac@D8TZHN0J> Hello All, I have an application that previously printed to the LPT1 port on the PC. In my code, all I had to do was Open "LPT1" For Output As #1 Print #1, strPrintJob Close #1 We now want to use a new printer that is connected to the lan via an ethernet card. The printer is assigned an IP address and is listed in the list of printers on my control panel. It appears that it is not possible to map my lpt1 to the printer. What I think that I want to do is something like Open 109.109.109.109 for output as #1 Print #1, strPrintJob Close #1 So, question number one is "how to I sent text to an ip address" I then had a serial communications piece of code that listened to the serial port and was able to verify that what was sent to the printer was received back. I was able to listen to the buffer on the mscomm.ocx and pass that back to the database. So question number two is "how do I listen to an ip address to hear what is coming from it" Thanks in advance for your help, I know that this quesion is a bit vague, but fire a few questions back at me if you wish. Thanks Mark Print and listening to an IP address -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Fri Apr 18 08:10:22 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 08:10:22 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Print and listening to an IP address Message-ID: Mark, #1 Convert strPrintJob to a report and then set the default printer of this report to the lan printer. #2 Why do you want to listen for Ack/Nacks? If the printer has a big enough buffer for your report and the power doesn't go out, it will eventually print the report. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Mark L. Breen [mailto:subs at solution-providers.ie] Sent: Friday 2003 Apr 18 07:55 To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Print and listening to an IP address Hello All, I have an application that previously printed to the LPT1 port on the PC. In my code, all I had to do was Open "LPT1" For Output As #1 Print #1, strPrintJob Close #1 We now want to use a new printer that is connected to the lan via an ethernet card. The printer is assigned an IP address and is listed in the list of printers on my control panel. It appears that it is not possible to map my lpt1 to the printer. What I think that I want to do is something like Open 109.109.109.109 for output as #1 Print #1, strPrintJob Close #1 So, question number one is "how to I sent text to an ip address" I then had a serial communications piece of code that listened to the serial port and was able to verify that what was sent to the printer was received back. I was able to listen to the buffer on the mscomm.ocx and pass that back to the database. So question number two is "how do I listen to an ip address to hear what is coming from it" Thanks in advance for your help, I know that this quesion is a bit vague, but fire a few questions back at me if you wish. Thanks Mark -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From caa at highway.com.br Fri Apr 18 08:16:30 2003 From: caa at highway.com.br (Carlos Alberto Alves) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 10:16:30 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs In-Reply-To: <52339DF8DCA2A544AF660C8217EB7DCD0227F149@MAILGATE.bury.gov.uk> References: <52339DF8DCA2A544AF660C8217EB7DCD0227F149@MAILGATE.bury.gov.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 17 Apr 2003 09:07:09 +0100, Griffiths, Richard wrote: > > Further to this debate - are there any drawbacks/limitations or important > considerations concerning functionality to take into account when using > an > mde? > > Richard Yes, users can create queries and tables of their own and tables, queries, data access pages, and macros can be imported from or exported to non-MDE databases. HTH, -- ************************************** * Carlos Alberto Alves * * Child Neurologist * * Systems Analyst/Programmer * * Rio de Janeiro, Brazil * * mailto:caa at highway.com.br * * http://igspot.ig.com.br/forefront/ * ************************************** From Lembit.Soobik at t-online.de Fri Apr 18 08:21:58 2003 From: Lembit.Soobik at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 15:21:58 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Print and listening to an IP address References: <015601c303fc$c8f90230$87c2f63f@Desktop> <000c01c305a9$eef436e0$6e1118ac@D8TZHN0J> Message-ID: <035401c305ad$825a1a50$0300a8c0@S856> Mark, try the URL address instead of the tcpip following works here Open "\\S856\hppsc210" ...... Lembit Soobik ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark L. Breen To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 2:55 PM Subject: [AccessD] Print and listening to an IP address Hello All, I have an application that previously printed to the LPT1 port on the PC. In my code, all I had to do was Open "LPT1" For Output As #1 Print #1, strPrintJob Close #1 We now want to use a new printer that is connected to the lan via an ethernet card. The printer is assigned an IP address and is listed in the list of printers on my control panel. It appears that it is not possible to map my lpt1 to the printer. What I think that I want to do is something like Open 109.109.109.109 for output as #1 Print #1, strPrintJob Close #1 So, question number one is "how to I sent text to an ip address" I then had a serial communications piece of code that listened to the serial port and was able to verify that what was sent to the printer was received back. I was able to listen to the buffer on the mscomm.ocx and pass that back to the database. So question number two is "how do I listen to an ip address to hear what is coming from it" Thanks in advance for your help, I know that this quesion is a bit vague, but fire a few questions back at me if you wish. Thanks Mark Print and listening to an IP address ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mikedorism at ntelos.net Fri Apr 18 08:28:34 2003 From: mikedorism at ntelos.net (Mike and Doris Manning) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 09:28:34 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Crystal Report & VB.Net Message-ID: <001001c305ae$6dcdd440$39360cd8@hargrove.internal> I'm testing the waters of migrating our applications from Access to VB.Net but I'm having trouble when it comes to Crystal Reports. I created a report based on a stored procedure but I'm having trouble figuring out how to pass the parameter value to the report without getting the "user interface for entering a parameter". Anybody out there got any sample code or suggestions? I've got a Crystal Reports.Net book on order but it won't be here until Monday or Tuesday. Doris Manning Database Administrator Hargrove Inc. www.hargroveinc.com mikedorism at ntelos.net From nancy.lytle at auatac.com Fri Apr 18 09:01:09 2003 From: nancy.lytle at auatac.com (Nancy Lytle) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 10:01:09 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Crystal Report & VB.Net In-Reply-To: <001001c305ae$6dcdd440$39360cd8@hargrove.internal> Message-ID: Check out this site and see if it gives you some info. Its an e-book. http://www.CrystalReportsBook.com?cpgn=ngcr_040403 HTH Nancy L -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mike and Doris Manning Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 9:29 AM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] OT: Crystal Report & VB.Net I'm testing the waters of migrating our applications from Access to VB.Net but I'm having trouble when it comes to Crystal Reports. I created a report based on a stored procedure but I'm having trouble figuring out how to pass the parameter value to the report without getting the "user interface for entering a parameter". Anybody out there got any sample code or suggestions? I've got a Crystal Reports.Net book on order but it won't be here until Monday or Tuesday. Doris Manning Database Administrator Hargrove Inc. www.hargroveinc.com mikedorism at ntelos.net _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mikedorism at ntelos.net Fri Apr 18 09:14:56 2003 From: mikedorism at ntelos.net (Mike and Doris Manning) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 10:14:56 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Crystal Report & VB.Net In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000901c305b4$e7671310$39360cd8@hargrove.internal> Thanks. I had stumbled across that yesterday. It shows you how to do it with the screen popping up for the user to enter the parameter but we don't want that to happen because most of the time they don't even know there are parameters involved let alone what they are. Doris Manning Database Administrator Hargrove Inc. www.hargroveinc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Lytle Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:01 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Crystal Report & VB.Net Check out this site and see if it gives you some info. Its an e-book. http://www.CrystalReportsBook.com?cpgn=ngcr_040403 HTH Nancy L -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mike and Doris Manning Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 9:29 AM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] OT: Crystal Report & VB.Net I'm testing the waters of migrating our applications from Access to VB.Net but I'm having trouble when it comes to Crystal Reports. I created a report based on a stored procedure but I'm having trouble figuring out how to pass the parameter value to the report without getting the "user interface for entering a parameter". Anybody out there got any sample code or suggestions? I've got a Crystal Reports.Net book on order but it won't be here until Monday or Tuesday. Doris Manning Database Administrator Hargrove Inc. www.hargroveinc.com mikedorism at ntelos.net _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From nancy.lytle at auatac.com Fri Apr 18 09:29:26 2003 From: nancy.lytle at auatac.com (Nancy Lytle) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 10:29:26 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Crystal Report & VB.Net In-Reply-To: <000901c305b4$e7671310$39360cd8@hargrove.internal> Message-ID: How about this one? How to pass a stored procedure parameter to a report using VB .NET : http://support.crystaldecisions.com/library/kbase/articles/c2011787.asp Nancy -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mike and Doris Manning Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:15 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Crystal Report & VB.Net Thanks. I had stumbled across that yesterday. It shows you how to do it with the screen popping up for the user to enter the parameter but we don't want that to happen because most of the time they don't even know there are parameters involved let alone what they are. Doris Manning Database Administrator Hargrove Inc. www.hargroveinc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Lytle Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:01 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Crystal Report & VB.Net Check out this site and see if it gives you some info. Its an e-book. http://www.CrystalReportsBook.com?cpgn=ngcr_040403 HTH Nancy L -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mike and Doris Manning Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 9:29 AM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] OT: Crystal Report & VB.Net I'm testing the waters of migrating our applications from Access to VB.Net but I'm having trouble when it comes to Crystal Reports. I created a report based on a stored procedure but I'm having trouble figuring out how to pass the parameter value to the report without getting the "user interface for entering a parameter". Anybody out there got any sample code or suggestions? I've got a Crystal Reports.Net book on order but it won't be here until Monday or Tuesday. Doris Manning Database Administrator Hargrove Inc. www.hargroveinc.com mikedorism at ntelos.net _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From harkins at iglou.com Fri Apr 18 09:56:17 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 10:56:17 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 References: <1050135248.3e97cad100064@hosea.qub.ac.uk> <3E9F8B97.9040109@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <00d301c305bb$82fba920$9ae6ffcc@SusanOne> Marty, I've only read about it -- haven't used it -- supposed to allow you to speak .NET to Word and Excel. I can probably dig up some info on it if you need it. Susan H. > Well I like some of web service features in Word 2003. > But what I would like to know has anyone installed what Microsoft posted > to its Web site for download last Friday; a first beta of its Visual > Studio Tools for Office product, code-named "Trinity." These are > supposed to be the hooks for Word and Excel 2003 to be used by VB.Net > http://www.microsoft-watch.com/article2/0,4248,1021930,00.asp From PBudge at cbsol.com Fri Apr 18 12:31:45 2003 From: PBudge at cbsol.com (PBudge at cbsol.com) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 12:31:45 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Friday OT Message-ID: Because it's WAAAAAAY too quiet here, there and everywhere else. . . and it's Friday. . . ;-) http://www.uclick.com/client/twc/nq/ And to those of you with kids and/or who celebrate Easter - this one is tooooo funny. ;-) http://www.uclick.com/client/twc/ft/ Pamela G. Budge PBudge at cbsol.com Creative Business Solutions From carbonnb at sympatico.ca Fri Apr 18 13:32:32 2003 From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 14:32:32 -0400 Subject: OT: Bryan's good tag line - was RE: [AccessD] Enough, Already!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3EA00C80.23847.76F263@localhost> On 16 Apr 2003 at 7:38, Wortz, Charles wrote: > "Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca > I've learned.... > That the easiest way for me to grow as a person is to surround myself > with people smarter than I am." > > > Bryan, > > I like the above tag line. What it says is the reason I subscribe to > this list. Just finally getting some catch up time.. That's why I'm here too Charles. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it. From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Fri Apr 18 13:41:54 2003 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 11:41:54 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Print and listening to an IP address References: Message-ID: <3EA046F2.9000908@shaw.ca> I have used this software to connect remote instrumentation packages to the Internet rather than printers. It treats the Internet as one long serial cable. If your printer is not connected to the LAN, you might want to look at this. I believe it uses WinSock can't remember. RS232 to TCP/IP Converter http://www.taltech.com/TALtech_web/products/tcpcom.html By the way you can generally only connect to the printer driver not the physical printer ( well you could look at the pin signals from a PC so unless the printer driver informs you of power condition or paper out, there is no other way to sense this. If that is what you are trying to do. Wortz, Charles wrote: > Mark, > > #1 Convert strPrintJob to a report and then set the default printer > of this report to the lan printer. > > #2 Why do you want to listen for Ack/Nacks? If the printer has a big > enough buffer for your report and the power doesn't go out, it will > eventually print the report. > > Charles Wortz > Software Development Division > Texas Education Agency > 1701 N. Congress Ave > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > 512-463-9493 > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark L. Breen [mailto:subs at solution-providers.ie] > Sent: Friday 2003 Apr 18 07:55 > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Print and listening to an IP address > > Hello All, > > I have an application that previously printed to the LPT1 port on the > PC. In my code, all I had to do was > > Open "LPT1" For Output As #1 > Print #1, strPrintJob > Close #1 > > We now want to use a new printer that is connected to the lan via an > ethernet card. The printer is assigned an IP address and is listed in > the list of printers on my control panel. It appears that it is not > possible to map my lpt1 to the printer. > > What I think that I want to do is something like > > Open 109.109.109.109 for output as #1 > Print #1, strPrintJob > Close #1 > > So, question number one is "how to I sent text to an ip address" > > > I then had a serial communications piece of code that listened to the > serial port and was able to verify that what was sent to the printer > was received back. I was able to listen to the buffer on the > mscomm.ocx and pass that back to the database. > > So question number two is "how do I listen to an ip address to hear > what is coming from it" > > Thanks in advance for your help, I know that this quesion is a bit > vague, but fire a few questions back at me if you wish. > > > Thanks > > Mark From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Fri Apr 18 13:48:06 2003 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 11:48:06 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 References: <1050135248.3e97cad100064@hosea.qub.ac.uk> <3E9F8B97.9040109@shaw.ca> <00d301c305bb$82fba920$9ae6ffcc@SusanOne> Message-ID: <3EA04866.3010107@shaw.ca> Was just going to try it out at home but I realized I need to have IIS installed as well; but I only have WinXP Home version. I was just curious as to what direction they intend to use it and what is this Trinity software that is being leaked out in dribs and drabs. Susan Harkins wrote: >Marty, I've only read about it -- haven't used it -- supposed to allow you >to speak .NET to Word and Excel. I can probably dig up some info on it if >you need it. > >Susan H. > > > > >>Well I like some of web service features in Word 2003. >>But what I would like to know has anyone installed what Microsoft posted >>to its Web site for download last Friday; a first beta of its Visual >>Studio Tools for Office product, code-named "Trinity." These are >>supposed to be the hooks for Word and Excel 2003 to be used by VB.Net >>http://www.microsoft-watch.com/article2/0,4248,1021930,00.asp >> >> > > >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > From Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Fri Apr 18 13:59:32 2003 From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK (Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 19:59:32 +0100 (BST) Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 In-Reply-To: <3EA04866.3010107@shaw.ca> References: <1050135248.3e97cad100064@hosea.qub.ac.uk> <3E9F8B97.9040109@shaw.ca> <00d301c305bb$82fba920$9ae6ffcc@SusanOne> <3EA04866.3010107@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <1050692372.3ea04b144475e@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Theres a free MS developers web server called Casandra you can use with XP home. As to direction. Thats easy. Full .net support across Office oh and XML is and will be real BIG. Martin Quoting MartyConnelly : > Was just going to try it out at home but I realized I need to have IIS > > installed as well; but I only have WinXP Home version. I was just > curious as to what direction they intend to use it and what is this > Trinity software that is being leaked out in dribs and drabs. > > Susan Harkins wrote: > > >Marty, I've only read about it -- haven't used it -- supposed to allow > you > >to speak .NET to Word and Excel. I can probably dig up some info on it > if > >you need it. > > > >Susan H. > > > > > > > > > >>Well I like some of web service features in Word 2003. > >>But what I would like to know has anyone installed what Microsoft > posted > >>to its Web site for download last Friday; a first beta of its > Visual > >>Studio Tools for Office product, code-named "Trinity." These are > >>supposed to be the hooks for Word and Excel 2003 to be used by > VB.Net > >>http://www.microsoft-watch.com/article2/0,4248,1021930,00.asp > >> > >> > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >AccessD mailing list > >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From harkins at iglou.com Fri Apr 18 14:12:57 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 15:12:57 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 References: <1050135248.3e97cad100064@hosea.qub.ac.uk> <3E9F8B97.9040109@shaw.ca><00d301c305bb$82fba920$9ae6ffcc@SusanOne> <3EA04866.3010107@shaw.ca> <1050692372.3ea04b144475e@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <021601c305de$86f83d40$9ae6ffcc@SusanOne> > As to direction. Thats easy. Full .net support across Office oh and XML is and > will be real BIG. ===========What do you by direction -- you mean eventually right? The tool only supports .NET in Word and Excel 2003 documents. Susan H. From Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Fri Apr 18 14:21:18 2003 From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK (Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 20:21:18 +0100 (BST) Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 In-Reply-To: <021601c305de$86f83d40$9ae6ffcc@SusanOne> References: <1050135248.3e97cad100064@hosea.qub.ac.uk> <3E9F8B97.9040109@shaw.ca><00d301c305bb$82fba920$9ae6ffcc@SusanOne> <3EA04866.3010107@shaw.ca> <1050692372.3ea04b144475e@hosea.qub.ac.uk> <021601c305de$86f83d40$9ae6ffcc@SusanOne> Message-ID: <1050693678.3ea0502ece4b7@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Yes eventually. Sorry. The XML thing is just an impression I got from them. Martin Quoting Susan Harkins : > > As to direction. Thats easy. Full .net support across Office oh and > XML is > and > > will be real BIG. > > ===========What do you by direction -- you mean eventually right? The > tool > only supports .NET in Word and Excel 2003 documents. > > Susan H. > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From harkins at iglou.com Fri Apr 18 14:36:36 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 15:36:36 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 References: <1050135248.3e97cad100064@hosea.qub.ac.uk><3E9F8B97.9040109@shaw.ca><00d301c305bb$82fba920$9ae6ffcc@SusanOne><3EA04866.3010107@shaw.ca> <1050692372.3ea04b144475e@hosea.qub.ac.uk><021601c305de$86f83d40$9ae6ffcc@SusanOne> <1050693678.3ea0502ece4b7@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <024801c305e1$d71899c0$9ae6ffcc@SusanOne> Well, it does appear from 2003 that they're taking us all down the XML road -- I guess it's important to those that actually need/use it. Susan H. > Yes eventually. Sorry. The XML thing is just an impression I got from them. > > Martin > > > Quoting Susan Harkins : > > > > As to direction. Thats easy. Full .net support across Office oh and > > XML is > > and > > > will be real BIG. > > > > ===========What do you by direction -- you mean eventually right? The > > tool > > only supports .NET in Word and Excel 2003 documents. > > > > Susan H. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From mmmtbig at bellsouth.net Fri Apr 18 14:53:19 2003 From: mmmtbig at bellsouth.net (Myke Myers) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 15:53:19 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Union Query WHERE Bug? Message-ID: <001901c305e4$293a8810$6501a8c0@tbig3> Can anyone explain why this query returns one record, as it should... SELECT quniCEIncompleteCredits.* FROM quniCEIncompleteCredits WHERE (((quniCEIncompleteCredits.RepNum) Like "8222")); And this query returns no records?. SELECT quniCEIncompleteCredits.* FROM quniCEIncompleteCredits WHERE (((quniCEIncompleteCredits.RepNum)="8222")); Using Access 2000. 'quniCEIncompleteCredits' is a union query. TIA, Myke The Better Information Group -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john at winhaven.net Fri Apr 18 15:06:41 2003 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 15:06:41 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Friday OT Message-ID: Consultants, ever gets asked for free advice? http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert200303658441 8.gif -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Fri Apr 18 15:27:22 2003 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 21:27:22 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Friday Humour Message-ID: <002e01c305e8$eb19e440$b274d0d5@andypc> > > > Evidently, these are real answers and replies from a rather fed-up > > Australian Tourist Information clerk who was initially very > > enthusiastic at answering peoples' questions, until he realized the > > sorts of people he > > was talking to...... > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > These questions about Australia were posted on an Australian Tourist > > Website and the answers came from an Aussie Customer Service rep. > > > > 1. Q: Does it ever get windy in Australia? I have never seen it rain > > on TV, so how do the plants grow? (UK) > > A: Actually, we import all plants fully grown and then just sit > > around watching them die. > > > > 2. Q: Will I be able to see kangaroos in the street? (USA) > > A: Depends how much you've been drinking > > > > 3. Q: I want to walk from Perth to Sydney - can I follow the > > railroad tracks? (Sweden) > > A: Sure, it's only three thousand miles, take lots of water... > > > > 4. Q: Is it safe to run around in the bushes in Australia? (Sweden) > > A: So its true what they say about Swedes. > > > > 5. Q: It is imperative that I find the names and addresses of places > > to contact for a stuffed porpoise. (Italy) > > A: Let's not touch this one. > > > > 6. Q: Are there any ATMs (cash machines) in Australia? Can you send > > me a list of them in Brisbane, Cairns, Townsville and Hervey Bay? > > (UK) > > A: What exactly did your last slave die of? > > > > 7. Q: Can you give me some information about hippo racing in > > Australia?(USA) > > A: A-fri-ca is the big triangle shaped continent south of Europe. > > Aus-tra-lia is that big island in the middle of the pacific which > > does not... oh forget it. Sure, the hippo racing is every Tuesday > > night in Kings Cross. Come naked. > > > > 8. Q: Which direction is North in Australia? (USA) > > A: Face south and then turn 90 degrees. Contact us when you get here > > and we'll send the rest of the directions. > > > > 9. Q: Can I bring cutlery into Australia? (UK) > > A: Why? Just use your fingers like we do. > > > > 10.Q: Can you send me the Vienna Boys' Choir schedule? (USA) > > A: Aus-tri-a is that quaint little country bordering Ger-man-y, > > which is...oh forget it. Sure, the Vienna Boys Choir plays every > > Tuesday night in Kings Cross, straight after the hippo races. Come > > naked. > > > > 11. Q: Do you have perfume in Australia? (France) > > A: No, WE don't stink. > > > > 12. Q: I have developed a new product that is the fountain of youth. > > Can you tell me where I can sell it in Australia? (USA) > > A: Anywhere significant numbers of Americans gather. > > > > 13. Q: Can I wear high heels in Australia? (UK) > > A: You are a British politician, right? > > > > 14. Q: Can you tell me the regions in Tasmania where the female population > > is smaller than the male population? (Italy) > > A: Yes, gay nightclubs. > > > > 15. Q: Do you celebrate Christmas in Australia? (France) > > A: Only at Christmas. > > > > 16. Q: Are there killer bees in Australia? (Germany) > > A: Not yet, but for you, we'll import them. > > > > 17. Q: Are there supermarkets in Sydney and is milk available all > > year round? (Germany) > > A: No, we are a peaceful civilisation of vegan hunter gatherers. > > Milk is illegal. > > > > 18. Q: Please send a list of all doctors in Australia who can > > dispense rattlesnake serum. (USA) > > A: Rattlesnakes live in A-meri-ca which is where YOU come from. All > > Australian snakes are perfectly harmless, can be safely handled and > > make good pets. > > > > 19. Q: I have a question about a famous animal in Australia, but I forget > > its name. It's a kind of bear and lives in trees. (USA) > > A: It's called a Drop Bear. They are so called because they drop out > > of gumtrees and eat the brains of anyone walking underneath them, > > although you personally should be safe enough. If you are still > > worried you can scare them off by spraying yourself with human urine > > before you go out walking. > > > > 21. Q: I was in Australia in 1969 on R+R, and I want to contact the > > girl I > > dated while I was staying in Kings Cross. Can you help? (USA) > > A: Yes, but you will have to pay her by the hour, just like last > > time. > > > > 22. Q: Will I be able to speek English most places I go? (USA) > > A: Yes, but you'll have to learn it first. > > Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk From PBudge at cbsol.com Fri Apr 18 15:48:11 2003 From: PBudge at cbsol.com (PBudge at cbsol.com) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 15:48:11 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Friday Humour Message-ID: ROFLMAO!!!! I've had what remains of our office staff (most of them are on vacation today) over here wanting to know what I was giggling about! Andy, you are my hero! ;-)))))))))))))))))))))) Pamela G. Budge PBudge at cbsol.com Creative Business Solutions "Andy Lacey" k> cc: Sent by: Subject: [AccessD] Friday Humour accessd-bounces at databasea dvisors.com 04/18/2003 03:27 PM Please respond to accessd > > > Evidently, these are real answers and replies from a rather fed-up > > Australian Tourist Information clerk who was initially very > > enthusiastic at answering peoples' questions, until he realized the > > sorts of people he > > was talking to...... > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > These questions about Australia were posted on an Australian Tourist > > Website and the answers came from an Aussie Customer Service rep. > > > > 1. Q: Does it ever get windy in Australia? I have never seen it rain > > on TV, so how do the plants grow? (UK) > > A: Actually, we import all plants fully grown and then just sit > > around watching them die. > > > > 2. Q: Will I be able to see kangaroos in the street? (USA) > > A: Depends how much you've been drinking > > > > 3. Q: I want to walk from Perth to Sydney - can I follow the > > railroad tracks? (Sweden) > > A: Sure, it's only three thousand miles, take lots of water... > > > > 4. Q: Is it safe to run around in the bushes in Australia? (Sweden) > > A: So its true what they say about Swedes. > > > > 5. Q: It is imperative that I find the names and addresses of places > > to contact for a stuffed porpoise. (Italy) > > A: Let's not touch this one. > > > > 6. Q: Are there any ATMs (cash machines) in Australia? Can you send > > me a list of them in Brisbane, Cairns, Townsville and Hervey Bay? > > (UK) > > A: What exactly did your last slave die of? > > > > 7. Q: Can you give me some information about hippo racing in > > Australia?(USA) > > A: A-fri-ca is the big triangle shaped continent south of Europe. > > Aus-tra-lia is that big island in the middle of the pacific which > > does not... oh forget it. Sure, the hippo racing is every Tuesday > > night in Kings Cross. Come naked. > > > > 8. Q: Which direction is North in Australia? (USA) > > A: Face south and then turn 90 degrees. Contact us when you get here > > and we'll send the rest of the directions. > > > > 9. Q: Can I bring cutlery into Australia? (UK) > > A: Why? Just use your fingers like we do. > > > > 10.Q: Can you send me the Vienna Boys' Choir schedule? (USA) > > A: Aus-tri-a is that quaint little country bordering Ger-man-y, > > which is...oh forget it. Sure, the Vienna Boys Choir plays every > > Tuesday night in Kings Cross, straight after the hippo races. Come > > naked. > > > > 11. Q: Do you have perfume in Australia? (France) > > A: No, WE don't stink. > > > > 12. Q: I have developed a new product that is the fountain of youth. > > Can you tell me where I can sell it in Australia? (USA) > > A: Anywhere significant numbers of Americans gather. > > > > 13. Q: Can I wear high heels in Australia? (UK) > > A: You are a British politician, right? > > > > 14. Q: Can you tell me the regions in Tasmania where the female population > > is smaller than the male population? (Italy) > > A: Yes, gay nightclubs. > > > > 15. Q: Do you celebrate Christmas in Australia? (France) > > A: Only at Christmas. > > > > 16. Q: Are there killer bees in Australia? (Germany) > > A: Not yet, but for you, we'll import them. > > > > 17. Q: Are there supermarkets in Sydney and is milk available all > > year round? (Germany) > > A: No, we are a peaceful civilisation of vegan hunter gatherers. > > Milk is illegal. > > > > 18. Q: Please send a list of all doctors in Australia who can > > dispense rattlesnake serum. (USA) > > A: Rattlesnakes live in A-meri-ca which is where YOU come from. All > > Australian snakes are perfectly harmless, can be safely handled and > > make good pets. > > > > 19. Q: I have a question about a famous animal in Australia, but I forget > > its name. It's a kind of bear and lives in trees. (USA) > > A: It's called a Drop Bear. They are so called because they drop out > > of gumtrees and eat the brains of anyone walking underneath them, > > although you personally should be safe enough. If you are still > > worried you can scare them off by spraying yourself with human urine > > before you go out walking. > > > > 21. Q: I was in Australia in 1969 on R+R, and I want to contact the > > girl I > > dated while I was staying in Kings Cross. Can you help? (USA) > > A: Yes, but you will have to pay her by the hour, just like last > > time. > > > > 22. Q: Will I be able to speek English most places I go? (USA) > > A: Yes, but you'll have to learn it first. > > Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Fri Apr 18 15:51:56 2003 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 13:51:56 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Friday Humour References: <002e01c305e8$eb19e440$b274d0d5@andypc> Message-ID: <3EA0656C.4020800@shaw.ca> I heard about an English guy that nearly got kicked out of Australia, while going through Customs and Immigration. He was asked "Do you have a criminal record?". He replied, " Is that still a requirement here?" Andy Lacey wrote: > > > > >>>Evidently, these are real answers and replies from a rather fed-up >>>Australian Tourist Information clerk who was initially very >>>enthusiastic at answering peoples' questions, until he realized the >>>sorts of people >>> >>> >he > > >>>was talking to...... >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>> >>>These questions about Australia were posted on an Australian Tourist >>> >>> > > > >>>Website and the answers came from an Aussie Customer Service rep. >>> >>>1. Q: Does it ever get windy in Australia? I have never seen it rain >>> >>> > > > >>>on TV, so how do the plants grow? (UK) >>>A: Actually, we import all plants fully grown and then just sit >>>around watching them die. >>> >>>2. Q: Will I be able to see kangaroos in the street? (USA) >>>A: Depends how much you've been drinking >>> >>>3. Q: I want to walk from Perth to Sydney - can I follow the >>>railroad tracks? (Sweden) >>>A: Sure, it's only three thousand miles, take lots of water... >>> >>>4. Q: Is it safe to run around in the bushes in Australia? (Sweden) >>>A: So its true what they say about Swedes. >>> >>>5. Q: It is imperative that I find the names and addresses of places >>> >>> > > > >>>to contact for a stuffed porpoise. (Italy) >>>A: Let's not touch this one. >>> >>>6. Q: Are there any ATMs (cash machines) in Australia? Can you send >>>me a list of them in Brisbane, Cairns, Townsville and Hervey Bay? >>>(UK) >>>A: What exactly did your last slave die of? >>> >>>7. Q: Can you give me some information about hippo racing in >>>Australia?(USA) >>>A: A-fri-ca is the big triangle shaped continent south of Europe. >>>Aus-tra-lia is that big island in the middle of the pacific which >>>does not... oh forget it. Sure, the hippo racing is every Tuesday >>>night in Kings Cross. Come naked. >>> >>>8. Q: Which direction is North in Australia? (USA) >>>A: Face south and then turn 90 degrees. Contact us when you get here >>> >>> > > > >>>and we'll send the rest of the directions. >>> >>>9. Q: Can I bring cutlery into Australia? (UK) >>>A: Why? Just use your fingers like we do. >>> >>>10.Q: Can you send me the Vienna Boys' Choir schedule? (USA) >>>A: Aus-tri-a is that quaint little country bordering Ger-man-y, >>>which is...oh forget it. Sure, the Vienna Boys Choir plays every >>>Tuesday night in Kings Cross, straight after the hippo races. Come >>>naked. >>> >>>11. Q: Do you have perfume in Australia? (France) >>>A: No, WE don't stink. >>> >>>12. Q: I have developed a new product that is the fountain of youth. >>> >>> > > > >>>Can you tell me where I can sell it in Australia? (USA) >>>A: Anywhere significant numbers of Americans gather. >>> >>>13. Q: Can I wear high heels in Australia? (UK) >>>A: You are a British politician, right? >>> >>>14. Q: Can you tell me the regions in Tasmania where the female >>> >>> >population > > >>>is smaller than the male population? (Italy) >>>A: Yes, gay nightclubs. >>> >>>15. Q: Do you celebrate Christmas in Australia? (France) >>>A: Only at Christmas. >>> >>>16. Q: Are there killer bees in Australia? (Germany) >>>A: Not yet, but for you, we'll import them. >>> >>>17. Q: Are there supermarkets in Sydney and is milk available all >>>year round? (Germany) >>>A: No, we are a peaceful civilisation of vegan hunter gatherers. >>>Milk is illegal. >>> >>>18. Q: Please send a list of all doctors in Australia who can >>>dispense rattlesnake serum. (USA) >>>A: Rattlesnakes live in A-meri-ca which is where YOU come from. All >>>Australian snakes are perfectly harmless, can be safely handled and >>>make good pets. >>> >>>19. Q: I have a question about a famous animal in Australia, but I >>> >>> >forget > > >>>its name. It's a kind of bear and lives in trees. (USA) >>>A: It's called a Drop Bear. They are so called because they drop out >>> >>> > > > >>>of gumtrees and eat the brains of anyone walking underneath them, >>>although you personally should be safe enough. If you are still >>>worried you can scare them off by spraying yourself with human urine >>> >>> > > > >>>before you go out walking. >>> >>>21. Q: I was in Australia in 1969 on R+R, and I want to contact the >>>girl >>> >>> >I > > >>>dated while I was staying in Kings Cross. Can you help? (USA) >>>A: Yes, but you will have to pay her by the hour, just like last >>>time. >>> >>>22. Q: Will I be able to speek English most places I go? (USA) >>>A: Yes, but you'll have to learn it first. >>> >>> >>> > >Andy Lacey >http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > From StaRKeY at Wanadoo.nl Fri Apr 18 16:40:06 2003 From: StaRKeY at Wanadoo.nl (StaRKeY) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 23:40:06 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Union Query WHERE Bug? In-Reply-To: <001901c305e4$293a8810$6501a8c0@tbig3> Message-ID: Messageis the number actual text or a true number? If it's a number you might try: SELECT * FROM quniCEIncompleteCredits WHERE RepNum=8222 Regards, Eric S. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Myke Myers Sent: vrijdag 18 april 2003 21:53 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Union Query WHERE Bug? Can anyone explain why this query returns one record, as it should... SELECT quniCEIncompleteCredits.* FROM quniCEIncompleteCredits WHERE (((quniCEIncompleteCredits.RepNum) Like "8222")); And this query returns no records?. SELECT quniCEIncompleteCredits.* FROM quniCEIncompleteCredits WHERE (((quniCEIncompleteCredits.RepNum)="8222")); Using Access 2000. 'quniCEIncompleteCredits' is a union query. TIA, Myke The Better Information Group -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Kenneth.Stoker at pnl.gov Fri Apr 18 17:48:50 2003 From: Kenneth.Stoker at pnl.gov (Stoker, Kenneth E) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 15:48:50 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Difference in strings Message-ID: <249C1CB246997C48BB74963CCD361C1B69B76F@pnlmse28.pnl.gov> Everyone, Is there a built-in function in VBA that will compare two strings and return the difference of the two? I want to remove values from a listbox so I thought I could set one variable to the listbox rowsource and another variable to the listbox itemsselected and return the difference of the two. If there is a built-in function, I would rather use that than create my own, but will if I have to. Thanks. Ken Stoker Technology Commercialization Information Systems Administrator PH: (509) 375-3758 FAX: (509) 375-6731 E-mail: Kenneth.Stoker at pnl.gov From mmmtbig at bellsouth.net Fri Apr 18 18:34:28 2003 From: mmmtbig at bellsouth.net (Myke Myers) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 19:34:28 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Union Query WHERE Bug? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002d01c30603$0e283350$6501a8c0@tbig3> No, it's a text field. Some of the RepNum have letters in them. Thanks, Myke -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of StaRKeY Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 5:40 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Union Query WHERE Bug? is the number actual text or a true number? If it's a number you might try: SELECT * FROM quniCEIncompleteCredits WHERE RepNum=8222 Regards, Eric S. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Myke Myers Sent: vrijdag 18 april 2003 21:53 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Union Query WHERE Bug? Can anyone explain why this query returns one record, as it should... SELECT quniCEIncompleteCredits.* FROM quniCEIncompleteCredits WHERE (((quniCEIncompleteCredits.RepNum) Like "8222")); And this query returns no records?. SELECT quniCEIncompleteCredits.* FROM quniCEIncompleteCredits WHERE (((quniCEIncompleteCredits.RepNum)="8222")); Using Access 2000. 'quniCEIncompleteCredits' is a union query. TIA, Myke The Better Information Group _____ avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 17-4-2003 Tested on: 18-4-2003 23:40:06 avast! is copyright (c) 2000-2003 ALWIL Software. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From harkins at iglou.com Fri Apr 18 18:43:57 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 19:43:57 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Union Query WHERE Bug? References: <002d01c30603$0e283350$6501a8c0@tbig3> Message-ID: <002201c30604$68cc4840$e2e6ffcc@SusanOne> MessageMy guess is you've got some phantom characters in there. Add a Trim to the expression and see what happens. Susan H. No, it's a text field. Some of the RepNum have letters in them. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Fri Apr 18 18:53:30 2003 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 09:53:30 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Difference in strings In-Reply-To: <249C1CB246997C48BB74963CCD361C1B69B76F@pnlmse28.pnl.gov> Message-ID: <3EA11C9A.5095.20E1CE@localhost> On 18 Apr 2003 at 15:48, Stoker, Kenneth E wrote: > Everyone, > > Is there a built-in function in VBA that will compare two strings and > return the difference of the two? I want to remove values from a > listbox so I thought I could set one variable to the listbox rowsource > and another variable to the listbox itemsselected and return the > difference of the two. If there is a built-in function, I would > rather use that than create my own, but will if I have to. > The problem with doing this sort of thing on strings is resynchronizing your two string position pointers after you come across the first difference. >From what you describe here, it looks as tough you are talking about complete items, not partial strings so *could* do as long as you used unique delimiters between the items - But you would be far better of treating the list items separately rather than trying to build strings containing all the items and then have to extract them again for comparison. Actually, the simplest way I can see to do this doesn't use extras strings or arrays: Dim loopcount As Long Dim strNewList as sting For loopcount = 0 To List2.ListCount If Not List2.Selected(loopcount) Then strNewList = strNewList & List2.ItemData(loopcount) & ";" End If Next strNewList = Left$(strNewList, Len(strNewList) - 1) List2.RowSource = strNewList -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. From papparuff at attbi.com Fri Apr 18 19:01:10 2003 From: papparuff at attbi.com (John Ruff) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 17:01:10 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Difference in strings In-Reply-To: <249C1CB246997C48BB74963CCD361C1B69B76F@pnlmse28.pnl.gov> Message-ID: <001e01c30606$cc26c850$6401a8c0@papparuff> I'm not quite sure what you are trying to do. If you are trying to delete items in the listbox that you have not selected, then there is no code that I am aware of, however, here is code that should work. ' This procedure removes the items from the listbox. Dim varCount As Variant Dim arrItem() As Variant Dim i As Integer i = 0 ' Redim the variable arrItem to the number ' of items in the lstTest listbox ReDim arrItem(lstTest.ItemsSelected.Count - 1) ' Loop through the lstTest listbox For varCount = 0 To lstTest.ListCount - 1 ' If the item in the listbox has not been ' selected, move its value to the arrItem array If lstTest.Selected(varCount) = False Then arrItem(i) = lstTest.Column(0, varCount) ' Increment the arrItem counter by 1 i = i + 1 End If Next varCount ' Loop through the arrItem array For i = LBound(arrItem) To UBound(arrItem) ' Loop through the lstTest listbox For varCount = 0 To lstTest.ListCount - 1 ' If the value in the listbos equals the value ' in the array, remove the value from the listbox ' and the exit the listbox loop If lstTest.Column(0, varCount) = arrItem(i) Then ' If you want to delete the item from the ' listbox's underlying recordset (RowSource) ' you can use a Delete query. ' Sample: DoCmd.RunSQL "DELETE * FROM YourTableName " & _ "WHERE ClientID=" & CLng(arrItem(i)) ' Remove the item from the listbox lstTest.RemoveItem (varCount) ' Requery the listbox for the current items lstTest.Requery Exit For End If Next varCount Next I Now if you are trying to delete those items in the list box that were selected, you can change the code for that. John V. Ruff - The Eternal Optimist :-) Always Looking For Contract Opportunities www.noclassroom.com Live software training Right over the Internet Home: 253.588.2139 Cell: 253.307/2947 9306 Farwest Dr SW Lakewood, WA 98498 "Commit to the Lord whatever you do, and your plans will succeed." Proverbs 16:3 -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stoker, Kenneth E Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 3:49 PM To: dba-AccessD (E-mail) Subject: [AccessD] Difference in strings Everyone, Is there a built-in function in VBA that will compare two strings and return the difference of the two? I want to remove values from a listbox so I thought I could set one variable to the listbox rowsource and another variable to the listbox itemsselected and return the difference of the two. If there is a built-in function, I would rather use that than create my own, but will if I have to. Thanks. Ken Stoker Technology Commercialization Information Systems Administrator PH: (509) 375-3758 FAX: (509) 375-6731 E-mail: Kenneth.Stoker at pnl.gov _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Apr 18 21:05:07 2003 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD)) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 19:05:07 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Union Query WHERE Bug? In-Reply-To: <001901c305e4$293a8810$6501a8c0@tbig3> Message-ID: MessageHi Myke: The only reason is because the field with the number string has a space or another invisible character in the field. the 'like' operand will return any string with '8222' any where in it. If the field was five characters in size it could return three possiblities of '8222 ' or ' 8222' or '8222'. WHERE (((quniCEIncompleteCredits.RepNum) Like "8222")); you could try, to remove spaces: WHERE (((trim(quniCEIncompleteCredits.RepNum))="8222")); HTH JIm -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Myke Myers Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 12:53 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Union Query WHERE Bug? Can anyone explain why this query returns one record, as it should... SELECT quniCEIncompleteCredits.* FROM quniCEIncompleteCredits WHERE (((quniCEIncompleteCredits.RepNum) Like "8222")); And this query returns no records?. SELECT quniCEIncompleteCredits.* FROM quniCEIncompleteCredits WHERE (((quniCEIncompleteCredits.RepNum)="8222")); Using Access 2000. 'quniCEIncompleteCredits' is a union query. TIA, Myke The Better Information Group -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmmtbig at bellsouth.net Fri Apr 18 23:21:36 2003 From: mmmtbig at bellsouth.net (Myke Myers) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 00:21:36 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Union Query WHERE Bug? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000501c3062b$2b3f3970$6501a8c0@tbig3> I trimmed the RepNum field in both the Select queries used in the Union query. I can 'Filter By Selection' in either of the Select queries. But when I try the same 'Filter By Selection' in the Union query, it returns no records. I found others with the same trouble in Google Groups. (Seached on 'Filter By Selection' and 'union query'.) Very strange. Susan and Jim: Thanks for your suggestions. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence (AccessD) Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:05 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Union Query WHERE Bug? Hi Myke: The only reason is because the field with the number string has a space or another invisible character in the field. the 'like' operand will return any string with '8222' any where in it. If the field was five characters in size it could return three possiblities of '8222 ' or ' 8222' or '8222'. WHERE (((quniCEIncompleteCredits.RepNum) Like "8222")); you could try, to remove spaces: WHERE (((trim(quniCEIncompleteCredits.RepNum))="8222")); HTH JIm -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Myke Myers Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 12:53 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Union Query WHERE Bug? Can anyone explain why this query returns one record, as it should... SELECT quniCEIncompleteCredits.* FROM quniCEIncompleteCredits WHERE (((quniCEIncompleteCredits.RepNum) Like "8222")); And this query returns no records?. SELECT quniCEIncompleteCredits.* FROM quniCEIncompleteCredits WHERE (((quniCEIncompleteCredits.RepNum)="8222")); Using Access 2000. 'quniCEIncompleteCredits' is a union query. TIA, Myke The Better Information Group -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kathryn at bassett.net Sat Apr 19 00:49:49 2003 From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 22:49:49 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] pictures in a database Message-ID: First, I have to admit, I have not yet even tried to look this up in my books (hangs head). It's just so much easier to ask you all. I have a database, only one table as it's a pretty simple one. I'm going to add a field called photo. Ultimately what I want is to print name tags with a graduate's name and photo. I have all the photos already, both on my hard drive and online. So, what kind of field should photo be, and what do I put in the field so that the photo will end up printing on the report being a specific height and proportional width? Do I have to make a thumbnail first? To see a sample photo, click on one here: http://muir63.org/photos63/b/b.shtml (try David Bassett - see what he looked like in high school). If anybody has a small database that has this capability, I'd live to get it and disect it. I learn a lot by example. -- Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA) "Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap" kathryn at bassett.net http://bassett.net From DWUTKA at marlow.com Sat Apr 19 01:02:44 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 01:02:44 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Friday OT Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82761@main2.marlow.com> That was too funny..... Drew -----Original Message----- From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net] Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 3:07 PM To: AccessD Subject: [AccessD] Friday OT Consultants, ever gets asked for free advice? http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert200303658441 8.gif -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From StaRKeY at Wanadoo.nl Sat Apr 19 02:06:53 2003 From: StaRKeY at Wanadoo.nl (StaRKeY) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 09:06:53 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Union Query WHERE Bug? In-Reply-To: <000501c3062b$2b3f3970$6501a8c0@tbig3> Message-ID: MessageIf it contains chars and you are sure the value is all you need then you could also try the following: ....WHERE Val(RepNum) = 8222 If that also doesn't work I'd like to see your data and query(s) myself:-) Regards, Eric S. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Myke Myers Sent: zaterdag 19 april 2003 06:22 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Union Query WHERE Bug? I trimmed the RepNum field in both the Select queries used in the Union query. I can 'Filter By Selection' in either of the Select queries. But when I try the same 'Filter By Selection' in the Union query, it returns no records. I found others with the same trouble in Google Groups. (Seached on 'Filter By Selection' and 'union query'.) Very strange. Susan and Jim: Thanks for your suggestions. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence (AccessD) Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:05 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Union Query WHERE Bug? Hi Myke: The only reason is because the field with the number string has a space or another invisible character in the field. the 'like' operand will return any string with '8222' any where in it. If the field was five characters in size it could return three possiblities of '8222 ' or ' 8222' or '8222'. WHERE (((quniCEIncompleteCredits.RepNum) Like "8222")); you could try, to remove spaces: WHERE (((trim(quniCEIncompleteCredits.RepNum))="8222")); HTH JIm -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Myke Myers Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 12:53 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Union Query WHERE Bug? Can anyone explain why this query returns one record, as it should... SELECT quniCEIncompleteCredits.* FROM quniCEIncompleteCredits WHERE (((quniCEIncompleteCredits.RepNum) Like "8222")); And this query returns no records?. SELECT quniCEIncompleteCredits.* FROM quniCEIncompleteCredits WHERE (((quniCEIncompleteCredits.RepNum)="8222")); Using Access 2000. 'quniCEIncompleteCredits' is a union query. TIA, Myke The Better Information Group -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Sat Apr 19 04:18:29 2003 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 19:18:29 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] pictures in a database In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3EA1A105.19132.2262489@localhost> On 18 Apr 2003 at 22:49, Kathryn Bassett wrote: > First, I have to admit, I have not yet even tried to look this up in > my books (hangs head). It's just so much easier to ask you all. > > I have a database, only one table as it's a pretty simple one. I'm > going to add a field called photo. Ultimately what I want is to print > name tags with a graduate's name and photo. I have all the photos > already, both on my hard drive and online. > So, what kind of field should photo be, Text field with the name of the photo file in it > and what do I put in the field so that the photo will > end up printing on the report being a specific height and proportional > width? An image box. SizeMode property set to "Zoom" When you build the report, put any image you like as it's Picture property initially. Then in the Detail_Format() put: imgPhoto.Picture = Photo >Do I have to make a thumbnail first? No > If anybody has a small database that has this capability, I'd live to > get it and disect it. I learn a lot by example. > I will send something through to you. -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. From Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Sat Apr 19 04:48:05 2003 From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK (Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 10:48:05 +0100 (BST) Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey In-Reply-To: <3EA1A105.19132.2262489@localhost> References: <3EA1A105.19132.2262489@localhost> Message-ID: <1050745685.3ea11b5588d43@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Folks When a new version of Access is released by MS, what sort of information about the new version do you need to be available right away. This is a major opportunity to get what you want included in the White Paper aimed at developers of Access solutions. I want to ensure that real world issues are covered i.e. give you the sort of stuff you want as opposed to what some people think you need. Martin From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Sat Apr 19 04:53:24 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 05:53:24 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] pictures in a database References: Message-ID: <005401c30659$84cd2a00$6101a8c0@amd2k512> http://www.candace-tripp.com/access_downloads.htm ...download her Picture in Report sample mdb ...HTH :) William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathryn Bassett" To: "dbAdvisors (AccessD)" Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 1:49 AM Subject: [AccessD] pictures in a database > First, I have to admit, I have not yet even tried to look this up in my books (hangs head). It's just so much easier to ask you all. > > I have a database, only one table as it's a pretty simple one. I'm going to add a field called photo. Ultimately what I want is to print name tags with a graduate's name and photo. I have all the photos already, both on my hard drive and online. So, what kind of field should photo be, and what do I put in the field so that the photo will end up printing on the report being a specific height and proportional width? Do I have to make a thumbnail first? To see a sample photo, click on one here: > http://muir63.org/photos63/b/b.shtml (try David Bassett - see what he looked like in high school). > > If anybody has a small database that has this capability, I'd live to get it and disect it. I learn a lot by example. > > -- > Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA) > "Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap" > kathryn at bassett.net > http://bassett.net > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Sat Apr 19 04:56:45 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 05:56:45 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey References: <3EA1A105.19132.2262489@localhost> <1050745685.3ea11b5588d43@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <006001c30659$fcd24300$6101a8c0@amd2k512> ...the only thing I really want Martin is when the first service pack will be released ...since that's the earliest possible "adoption" date for me based upon long and bitter experience :)))))) William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 5:48 AM Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey > Folks > > When a new version of Access is released by MS, what sort of information about > the new version do you need to be available right away. > > This is a major opportunity to get what you want included in the White Paper > aimed at developers of Access solutions. > > I want to ensure that real world issues are covered i.e. give you the sort of > stuff you want as opposed to what some people think you need. > > > Martin > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Sat Apr 19 04:59:46 2003 From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK (Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 10:59:46 +0100 (BST) Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey In-Reply-To: <006001c30659$fcd24300$6101a8c0@amd2k512> References: <3EA1A105.19132.2262489@localhost> <1050745685.3ea11b5588d43@hosea.qub.ac.uk> <006001c30659$fcd24300$6101a8c0@amd2k512> Message-ID: <1050746386.3ea11e12ed7f2@hosea.qub.ac.uk> PMSL Dont think that one would go down well LOL but I liked it. Martin Quoting William Hindman : > ...the only thing I really want Martin is when the first service pack > will > be released ...since that's the earliest possible "adoption" date for > me > based upon long and bitter experience :)))))) > > William Hindman > "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." > Edmund > Burke > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 5:48 AM > Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey > > > > Folks > > > > When a new version of Access is released by MS, what sort of > information > about > > the new version do you need to be available right away. > > > > This is a major opportunity to get what you want included in the > White > Paper > > aimed at developers of Access solutions. > > > > I want to ensure that real world issues are covered i.e. give you the > sort > of > > stuff you want as opposed to what some people think you need. > > > > > > Martin > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Sat Apr 19 05:01:11 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 06:01:11 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 References: <1050135248.3e97cad100064@hosea.qub.ac.uk><3E9F8B97.9040109@shaw.ca><00d301c305bb$82fba920$9ae6ffcc@SusanOne><3EA04866.3010107@shaw.ca><1050692372.3ea04b144475e@hosea.qub.ac.uk><021601c305de$86f83d40$9ae6ffcc@SusanOne><1050693678.3ea0502ece4b7@hosea.qub.ac.uk> <024801c305e1$d71899c0$9ae6ffcc@SusanOne> Message-ID: <006501c3065a$9b492030$6101a8c0@amd2k512> "it's important to those that actually need/use it" ...if ...big if here ...XML actually proves to be the basis for the long promised develop once, work anywhere language ...and MS is putting major money into developing just exactly that ...then we will all eventually need/use it :) William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Harkins" To: Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2003 > Well, it does appear from 2003 that they're taking us all down the XML > road -- I guess it's important to those that actually need/use it. > > Susan H. > > > > > Yes eventually. Sorry. The XML thing is just an impression I got from > them. > > > > Martin > > > > > > Quoting Susan Harkins : > > > > > > As to direction. Thats easy. Full .net support across Office oh and > > > XML is > > > and > > > > will be real BIG. > > > > > > ===========What do you by direction -- you mean eventually right? The > > > tool > > > only supports .NET in Word and Excel 2003 documents. > > > > > > Susan H. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > AccessD mailing list > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Sat Apr 19 05:02:03 2003 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 20:02:03 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey In-Reply-To: <006001c30659$fcd24300$6101a8c0@amd2k512> Message-ID: <3EA1AB3B.3438.24E0438@localhost> On 19 Apr 2003 at 5:56, William Hindman wrote: > ...the only thing I really want Martin is when the first service pack > will be released ...since that's the earliest possible "adoption" date > for me based upon long and bitter experience :)))))) > I'll second that :-) -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Sat Apr 19 05:06:38 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 06:06:38 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey References: <3EA1A105.19132.2262489@localhost><1050745685.3ea11b5588d43@hosea.qub.ac.uk><006001c30659$fcd24300$6101a8c0@amd2k512> <1050746386.3ea11e12ed7f2@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <007801c3065b$5dfce030$6101a8c0@amd2k512> ...sorry Martin ...just couldn't resist the temptation ...I'd never make a good Catholic :((((( William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 5:59 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey > PMSL > > Dont think that one would go down well LOL but I liked it. > > Martin > > > Quoting William Hindman : > > > ...the only thing I really want Martin is when the first service pack > > will > > be released ...since that's the earliest possible "adoption" date for > > me > > based upon long and bitter experience :)))))) > > > > William Hindman > > "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." > > Edmund > > Burke > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 5:48 AM > > Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey > > > > > > > Folks > > > > > > When a new version of Access is released by MS, what sort of > > information > > about > > > the new version do you need to be available right away. > > > > > > This is a major opportunity to get what you want included in the > > White > > Paper > > > aimed at developers of Access solutions. > > > > > > I want to ensure that real world issues are covered i.e. give you the > > sort > > of > > > stuff you want as opposed to what some people think you need. > > > > > > > > > Martin > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > AccessD mailing list > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From mmaddison at optusnet.com.au Sat Apr 19 06:11:52 2003 From: mmaddison at optusnet.com.au (Michael Maddison) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 21:11:52 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs In-Reply-To: <009601c30474$18df2320$54dd31d2@OfficePC> Message-ID: Kath, May I suggest you get some clarification regarding the situation here in Australia. My information had always been along the same lines as you state, however dealings with our federal govt forced me to change my opinion. The law actually states that governments (doesn't specify which) always retain copyright of any contracted work unless they specifically sign it away. I am not a lawyer so you should get a legal opinion if you feel this may ever be an issue for yourself. cheers Michael M That's interesting Stephen, because my advice here (Australia) has been that by default ownership rests with the developer, so I don't supply the FE mdb in every case. It is a case by case situation for me. Kath From SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au Sat Apr 19 07:36:39 2003 From: SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au (Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 22:36:39 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs References: Message-ID: <003e01c30670$532eddb0$54dd31d2@OfficePC> Hi Michael - that's interesting - hadn't heard that before. It's really a minefield.....I guess that the question comes down to *why* they want to own the code and why it's an issue for that particular client. The only time it became an issue for me was with a client who wanted to sell a system I had written for him throughout his industry.......and I thought that was unreasonable. I was more than happy to work out a way of sharing future sales income, but he wasn't having any part of that..... My issue with allowing users into the FE is mostly related more to guaranteeing the functionality of the system. After doing my full system test I have a verbal agreement with my clients to guarantee the functionality (and I am happy at any future time fix bugs at no cost - assuming those functions were part of the original spec). I am only happy to do that though if I can lock down the system. Most of my clients (99%?) are happy with that. Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Maddison To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 9:11 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs Kath, May I suggest you get some clarification regarding the situation here in Australia. My information had always been along the same lines as you state, however dealings with our federal govt forced me to change my opinion. The law actually states that governments (doesn't specify which) always retain copyright of any contracted work unless they specifically sign it away. I am not a lawyer so you should get a legal opinion if you feel this may ever be an issue for yourself. cheers Michael M That's interesting Stephen, because my advice here (Australia) has been that by default ownership rests with the developer, so I don't supply the FE mdb in every case. It is a case by case situation for me. 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Along the lines of what the others have said, I'm really getting tired of the crap they put out. I'm in the same line of thinking; I don't even start to look at a new release until at least the first service pack. Jim Dettman President, Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc. (315) 699-3443 jimdettman at earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 5:48 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey Folks When a new version of Access is released by MS, what sort of information about the new version do you need to be available right away. This is a major opportunity to get what you want included in the White Paper aimed at developers of Access solutions. I want to ensure that real world issues are covered i.e. give you the sort of stuff you want as opposed to what some people think you need. Martin _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Sat Apr 19 10:16:19 2003 From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK (Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 16:16:19 +0100 (BST) Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1050765379.3ea16843a3d15@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Help sucks so far. It connects to teh web to download the latest copy on the grounds that M: > Martin, > > My top two: > > 1. Changes in Access since the last version. > > 2. Compatibility issues with installing and using while other versions > of > Access are on the same machine. > > and of course it really would be nice to have a help system that > works.... > > I hope they get it right this time (Access). I'm really getting tried > of > using A97 (in fact I've been moving away from Access for quite some > time > now). Along the lines of what the others have said, I'm really > getting > tired of the crap they put out. I'm in the same line of thinking; I > don't > even start to look at a new release until at least the first service > pack. > > Jim Dettman > President, > Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc. > (315) 699-3443 > jimdettman at earthlink.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of > Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK > Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 5:48 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey > > > Folks > > When a new version of Access is released by MS, what sort of > information > about > the new version do you need to be available right away. > > This is a major opportunity to get what you want included in the White > Paper > aimed at developers of Access solutions. > > I want to ensure that real world issues are covered i.e. give you the > sort > of > stuff you want as opposed to what some people think you need. > > > Martin > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From pedro at plex.nl Sat Apr 19 11:35:11 2003 From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 18:35:11 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] select distinct per year Message-ID: <001801c30691$c9dc52f0$f1c581d5@pedro> Hello Group, how can i make an select disctinct for all the record in a date field (dd-mm-yyyy) per year?? 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Paul From: "Pedro Janssen" Date: Sat 19/Apr/2003 18:32 GMT To: Subject: [AccessD] convert text into date Hello Group, how can i convert a text field (20001201) into a date field (01-12-2000) TIA Pedro Janssen _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com __________________________________________________________________________ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application. From harkins at iglou.com Sat Apr 19 16:01:49 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 17:01:49 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] select distinct per year References: <001801c30691$c9dc52f0$f1c581d5@pedro><01db01c30693$2f1c2a40$2d4afccc@SusanOne> <002d01c306a3$04c12ab0$f1c581d5@pedro> Message-ID: <008e01c306b6$e7a30160$b1e6ffcc@SusanOne> But you want only unique records based on both the record and the date field? I don't understand how DISTINCT fits in. Susan H. ----- Original Message ----- From: Pedro Janssen To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] select distinct per year Hello Susan, sorry i wasn't clear enough. For example: TableA has a date field and a number field. What i need is to make calculations on alle the record for the number field for each year. TIA Pedro Janssen ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan Harkins To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] select distinct per year SELECT DISTINCT fldlist|* FROM table WHERE DatePart("yyyy",datefield) = year =======But I'm guessing that's not really what you're after -- I'm not sure I understand -- you want the results for a particular year, or you want them all, just grouped by their year? Susan H. Hello Group, how can i make an select disctinct for all the record in a date field (dd-mm-yyyy) per year?? 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URL: From shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru Sun Apr 20 03:16:10 2003 From: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 12:16:10 +0400 Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey References: <1050765379.3ea16843a3d15@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <006601c30715$1c093920$b501010a@DAISY.local> <<< No major issues other than the ADO references which is a PITA. >>> Martin, My two questions are: 1. What is this PITA problem with ADO references and Access2003 when it installed parallel to MS Access 97,2000 and 2002? 2. Will I've any fatal side-effects if I install Access2003 in parallel to Access 97, 2000, 2002 and then deinstall it competely? (By fatal side-effect I mean the situation when I will have to reinstall everything from scratch) TIA, Shamil ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 7:16 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey > Help sucks so far. It connects to teh web to download the latest copy on the > grounds that M for beginners containing alot of training materials. Some stuff for more > advanced users but nothing great. Did I say help still sucks. > > I have on this machine > > Access 97 > Access 2000 > Access 2002 > Access 2003 > > So far all seems OK. No major issues other than the ADO references which is a > PITA. > > As long as the install takes place in order I have had no major issues. This > is a very clean machine used for testing their stuff. So nothing on it really > but MS software. > > Changes are few and far between. Major ones are new XML features which make > changes to the object model and linking and working with Sharepoint data. The > rest are and I quote "nickle and dime stuff" > > Martin > > > Quoting Jim Dettman : > > > Martin, > > > > My top two: > > > > 1. Changes in Access since the last version. > > > > 2. Compatibility issues with installing and using while other versions > > of > > Access are on the same machine. > > > > and of course it really would be nice to have a help system that > > works.... > > > > I hope they get it right this time (Access). I'm really getting tried > > of > > using A97 (in fact I've been moving away from Access for quite some > > time > > now). Along the lines of what the others have said, I'm really > > getting > > tired of the crap they put out. I'm in the same line of thinking; I > > don't > > even start to look at a new release until at least the first service > > pack. > > > > Jim Dettman > > President, > > Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc. > > (315) 699-3443 > > jimdettman at earthlink.net > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of > > Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK > > Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 5:48 AM > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey > > > > > > Folks > > > > When a new version of Access is released by MS, what sort of > > information > > about > > the new version do you need to be available right away. > > > > This is a major opportunity to get what you want included in the White > > Paper > > aimed at developers of Access solutions. > > > > I want to ensure that real world issues are covered i.e. give you the > > sort > > of > > stuff you want as opposed to what some people think you need. > > > > > > Martin > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Sun Apr 20 07:53:23 2003 From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK (Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 13:53:23 +0100 (BST) Subject: [AccessD] OT: SOAP In-Reply-To: <001001c305ae$6dcdd440$39360cd8@hargrove.internal> References: <001001c305ae$6dcdd440$39360cd8@hargrove.internal> Message-ID: <1050843203.3ea298430fe4e@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Could someone give me a quick high level technical overview of SOAP? Martin From harkins at iglou.com Sun Apr 20 09:21:42 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 10:21:42 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT: SOAP References: <001001c305ae$6dcdd440$39360cd8@hargrove.internal> <1050843203.3ea298430fe4e@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <006901c30748$52681b20$efe6ffcc@SusanOne> Well, it's really just fat and lye Martin -- but when you're making it, you want to be careful to pour the lye into the water/oil mixture and not the other way around -- think of the water as a lake and the lye as snow -- you sprinkle the snow onto the lake... pouring the water into a bowl of lye causes too quick and severe a reaction and it's dangerous. Ya have to stir until the mixture's the right consistency -- otherwise you get a really soft bar that you can't remove from the mold and it melts in the shower. So, does that help? Actually, I think there's a good discussion on the 2003 beta developer's CD -- Susan H. > Could someone give me a quick high level technical overview of SOAP? > > From harkins at iglou.com Sun Apr 20 09:22:39 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 10:22:39 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey References: <1050765379.3ea16843a3d15@hosea.qub.ac.uk> <006601c30715$1c093920$b501010a@DAISY.local> Message-ID: <006a01c30748$536280b0$efe6ffcc@SusanOne> Shamil, it could just be a beta flaw, and not be a permanent situation. Susan H. > <<< > No major issues other than the ADO > references which is a PITA. > >>> > Martin, > > My two questions are: > 1. What is this PITA problem with ADO references and Access2003 when it > installed parallel to MS Access 97,2000 and 2002? > 2. Will I've any fatal side-effects if I install Access2003 in parallel to > Access 97, 2000, 2002 and then deinstall it competely? (By fatal side-effect > I mean the situation when I will have to reinstall everything from scratch) > > TIA, > Shamil > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 7:16 PM > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey > > > > Help sucks so far. It connects to teh web to download the latest copy on > the > > grounds that M great > > for beginners containing alot of training materials. Some stuff for more > > advanced users but nothing great. Did I say help still sucks. > > > > I have on this machine > > > > Access 97 > > Access 2000 > > Access 2002 > > Access 2003 > > > > So far all seems OK. No major issues other than the ADO references which > is a > > PITA. > > > > As long as the install takes place in order I have had no major issues. > This > > is a very clean machine used for testing their stuff. So nothing on it > really > > but MS software. > > > > Changes are few and far between. Major ones are new XML features which > make > > changes to the object model and linking and working with Sharepoint data. > The > > rest are and I quote "nickle and dime stuff" > > > > Martin > > > > > > Quoting Jim Dettman : > > > > > Martin, > > > > > > My top two: > > > > > > 1. Changes in Access since the last version. > > > > > > 2. Compatibility issues with installing and using while other versions > > > of > > > Access are on the same machine. > > > > > > and of course it really would be nice to have a help system that > > > works.... > > > > > > I hope they get it right this time (Access). I'm really getting tried > > > of > > > using A97 (in fact I've been moving away from Access for quite some > > > time > > > now). Along the lines of what the others have said, I'm really > > > getting > > > tired of the crap they put out. I'm in the same line of thinking; I > > > don't > > > even start to look at a new release until at least the first service > > > pack. > > > > > > Jim Dettman > > > President, > > > Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc. > > > (315) 699-3443 > > > jimdettman at earthlink.net > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of > > > Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK > > > Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 5:48 AM > > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > > Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey > > > > > > > > > Folks > > > > > > When a new version of Access is released by MS, what sort of > > > information > > > about > > > the new version do you need to be available right away. > > > > > > This is a major opportunity to get what you want included in the White > > > Paper > > > aimed at developers of Access solutions. > > > > > > I want to ensure that real world issues are covered i.e. give you the > > > sort > > > of > > > stuff you want as opposed to what some people think you need. > > > > > > > > > Martin > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > AccessD mailing list > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > AccessD mailing list > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From artful at rogers.com Sun Apr 20 10:24:59 2003 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 11:24:59 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Hidden form technques Message-ID: <061a01c30751$019715d0$8e01a8c0@Rock> For the first time I am trying to use a hidden form in my app. Its only purpose is to open the switchboard and pass in an argument (which then dictates the starting switchboard) -- this effectively lets the switchboard items table contain as many starting points as you wish. That part works. The part that doesn't work is the hidden form -- it's not hidden! My Form_Load looks like this: Debug.Print "Hidden Form Load" DoCmd.OpenForm FormName:="Switchboard", View:=acNormal, OpenArgs:="ETS" Me.Visible = False It doesn't work. The form is plainly visible :-) What am I doing wrong? TIA, Arthur From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Sun Apr 20 10:31:27 2003 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 16:31:27 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Hidden form technques In-Reply-To: <061a01c30751$019715d0$8e01a8c0@Rock> Message-ID: <000001c30751$e8ff59a0$b274d0d5@andypc> Arthur I wonder if it's a problem making it invisible in the onload. Try opening it hidden in the first place, ie as part of the open statement. Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Arthur Fuller > Sent: 20 April 2003 16:25 > To: AccessD > Subject: [AccessD] Hidden form technques > > > For the first time I am trying to use a hidden form in my > app. Its only purpose is to open the switchboard and pass in > an argument (which then dictates the starting switchboard) -- > this effectively lets the switchboard items table contain as > many starting points as you wish. That part works. > > The part that doesn't work is the hidden form -- it's not hidden! > > My Form_Load looks like this: > > Debug.Print "Hidden Form Load" > DoCmd.OpenForm FormName:="Switchboard", View:=acNormal, > OpenArgs:="ETS" > Me.Visible = False > > It doesn't work. The form is plainly visible :-) What am I > doing wrong? > > TIA, > Arthur > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd > Website: > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From papparuff at attbi.com Sun Apr 20 10:38:00 2003 From: papparuff at attbi.com (John Ruff) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 08:38:00 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Hidden form technques In-Reply-To: <061a01c30751$019715d0$8e01a8c0@Rock> Message-ID: <000501c30752$d6757340$6401a8c0@papparuff> Arthur, You need to use an AutoExec macro to open the hidden form and in the Action Arguments section make the Window Mode: Hidden John V. Ruff - The Eternal Optimist :-) Always Looking For Contract Opportunities Home: 253.588.2139 Cell: 253.307/2947 9306 Farwest Dr SW Lakewood, WA 98498 "Commit to the Lord whatever you do, and your plans will succeed." Proverbs 16:3 -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 8:25 AM To: AccessD Subject: [AccessD] Hidden form technques For the first time I am trying to use a hidden form in my app. Its only purpose is to open the switchboard and pass in an argument (which then dictates the starting switchboard) -- this effectively lets the switchboard items table contain as many starting points as you wish. That part works. The part that doesn't work is the hidden form -- it's not hidden! My Form_Load looks like this: Debug.Print "Hidden Form Load" DoCmd.OpenForm FormName:="Switchboard", View:=acNormal, OpenArgs:="ETS" Me.Visible = False It doesn't work. The form is plainly visible :-) What am I doing wrong? TIA, Arthur _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From artful at rogers.com Sun Apr 20 12:49:19 2003 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 13:49:19 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Hidden form technques In-Reply-To: <000501c30752$d6757340$6401a8c0@papparuff> Message-ID: <062d01c30765$2b5a37d0$8e01a8c0@Rock> That worked. I've never used an AutoExec macro before, either. Two things learned in one day! A. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Ruff Sent: April 20, 2003 11:38 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Hidden form technques Arthur, You need to use an AutoExec macro to open the hidden form and in the Action Arguments section make the Window Mode: Hidden John V. Ruff - The Eternal Optimist :-) Always Looking For Contract Opportunities From subs at solution-providers.ie Sun Apr 20 14:13:53 2003 From: subs at solution-providers.ie (Mark L. Breen) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 20:13:53 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] OT: SOAP References: <001001c305ae$6dcdd440$39360cd8@hargrove.internal><1050843203.3ea298430fe4e@hosea.qub.ac.uk> <006901c30748$52681b20$efe6ffcc@SusanOne> Message-ID: <001101c30771$01fa5df0$761118ac@D8TZHN0J> Brialliant Susan, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Harkins" To: Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: SOAP > Well, it's really just fat and lye Martin -- but when you're making it, you > want to be careful to pour the lye into the water/oil mixture and not the > other way around -- think of the water as a lake and the lye as snow -- you > sprinkle the snow onto the lake... pouring the water into a bowl of lye > causes too quick and severe a reaction and it's dangerous. Ya have to stir > until the mixture's the right consistency -- otherwise you get a really soft > bar that you can't remove from the mold and it melts in the shower. > > So, does that help? > > Actually, I think there's a good discussion on the 2003 beta developer's > CD -- > > Susan H. > > > > Could someone give me a quick high level technical overview of SOAP? > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Sun Apr 20 14:47:10 2003 From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK (Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 20:47:10 +0100 (BST) Subject: [AccessD] OT: SOAP In-Reply-To: <001101c30771$01fa5df0$761118ac@D8TZHN0J> References: <001001c305ae$6dcdd440$39360cd8@hargrove.internal><1050843203.3ea298430fe4e@hosea.qub.ac.uk> <006901c30748$52681b20$efe6ffcc@SusanOne> <001101c30771$01fa5df0$761118ac@D8TZHN0J> Message-ID: <1050868030.3ea2f93e5082a@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Dont encourage her Mark. Shes bad enough. (<: Martin Quoting "Mark L. Breen" : > Brialliant Susan, > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan Harkins" > To: > Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 3:21 PM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: SOAP > > > > Well, it's really just fat and lye Martin -- but when you're making > it, > you > > want to be careful to pour the lye into the water/oil mixture and not > the > > other way around -- think of the water as a lake and the lye as snow > -- > you > > sprinkle the snow onto the lake... pouring the water into a bowl of > lye > > causes too quick and severe a reaction and it's dangerous. Ya have to > stir > > until the mixture's the right consistency -- otherwise you get a > really > soft > > bar that you can't remove from the mold and it melts in the shower. > > > > So, does that help? > > > > Actually, I think there's a good discussion on the 2003 beta > developer's > > CD -- > > > > Susan H. > > > > > > > Could someone give me a quick high level technical overview of > SOAP? > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Sun Apr 20 15:20:30 2003 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 13:20:30 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] OT: SOAP References: <001001c305ae$6dcdd440$39360cd8@hargrove.internal> <1050843203.3ea298430fe4e@hosea.qub.ac.uk> <006901c30748$52681b20$efe6ffcc@SusanOne> <001101c30771$01fa5df0$761118ac@D8TZHN0J> <1050868030.3ea2f93e5082a@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3EA3010E.9030008@shaw.ca> Which version of Soap? Notes from Anne Manes Short answer: SOAP 1.0 has been superseded by SOAP 1.1. SOAP 1.1 is not a formal standard, and there is no effort in place to standardize SOAP 1.1. Even so, SOAP 1.1 is the de facto standard. W3C is defining a standard XML protocol called SOAP 1.2. This effort used SOAP 1.1 as a starting point, but SOAP 1.2 is substantially different from SOAP 1.1. Long answer: SOAP 1.0 was written by Developmentor, Microsoft, and UserLand. In early 2000, they recruited IBM and Lotus to join the fun, and they jointly produced SOAP 1.1. In May 2000, this spec was submitted [2] to W3C by the authors and some of their allies (Ariba, Commerce One, Compaq, HP, IONA, and SAP). W3C subsequently published SOAP 1.1 as a W3C Note [2]. A W3C Note is not an approved standard. From the status section of the specification: "This document is a NOTE made available by the W3C for discussion only. Publication of this Note by W3C indicates no endorsement by W3C or the W3C Team, or any W3C Members. W3C has had no editorial control over the preparation of this Note. This document is a work in progress and may be updated, replaced, or rendered obsolete by other documents at any time." SOAP 1.1 is in it's final state -- it won't change. There is no effort to turn SOAP 1.1 into a formal standard. Instead, there is an effort going on to develop a new standard based on SOAP 1.1. This new standard is called SOAP 1.2. SOAP 1.2 changes the content type for SOAP messages from text/xml to application/soap+xml. In addition it adds a HTTP GET binding so that you can make HTTP GET requests, and receive SOAP messages in reply, the GET binding is obviously easy to test with a browser. Unfortunately by default Internet Explorer will prompt you to save/open the response, rather than just displaying the XML. Following a pointer from Sam Ruby, here's appsoap.reg, a reg file that changes the IE config so that it display the XML directly. W3C formed the XML Protocol Working Group [3] in September 2000 to develop a formal SOAP standard. Three years after the initial publication of SOAP 1.1, the XML Protocol Working Group is very close to releasing the final SOAP 1.2 standard. They published a Candidate Recommendation [4] in December. The final W3C Recommendation (W3C's name for a standard) should be published within the next two to three months. The SOAP Primer provides a section [5] that describes the differences between SOAP 1.1 and SOAP 1.2. (Given the differences, I think it would have been more appropriate to call the new specification SOAP 2.0, but let's not go there.) Some vendors have added preliminary implementations of SOAP 1.2 [6], but these aren't product quality yet. Now, keep in mind that the IT world hasn't been sitting around twiddling its thumbs waiting for W3C to produce a standard. There are dozens of products out there [7] that implement SOAP 1.1. So even though it has no formal status as a standard, SOAP 1.1 is the current de facto standard for Web services. Challenges exist surrounding this specification, though. There are reasons why it's a good idea to put a specification through a rigorous standardization process. SOAP 1.1 has lots of ambiguous features, and these ambiguities result in interoperability issues. That's why the vendors started WS-I -- to help clarify the SOAP 1.1 spec, and to define a set of constraints and guidelines that make interoperability easier. The vendors are now working to ensure that their products support the WS-I Basic Profile [8]. [1] http://www.w3.org/Submission/2000/05/ [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/SOAP/ [3] http://www.w3.org/2000/xp/Group/ [4] http://www.w3.org/TR/soap12-part1/ [5] http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/CR-soap12-part0-20021219/#L4697 [6] http://www.w3.org/2000/xp/Group/2/03/soap1.2implementation.html [7] http://www.soapware.org/directory/4/implementations [8] http://www.ws-i.org/Profiles/Basic/2003-03/BasicProfile-1.0-BdAD.html mwp.reid at queens-belfast.ac.uk wrote: >Dont encourage her Mark. Shes bad enough. > >(<: > >Martin > > >Quoting "Mark L. Breen" : > > > >>Brialliant Susan, >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Susan Harkins" >>To: >>Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 3:21 PM >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: SOAP >> >> >> >> >>>Well, it's really just fat and lye Martin -- but when you're making >>> >>> >>it, >>you >> >> >>>want to be careful to pour the lye into the water/oil mixture and not >>> >>> >>the >> >> >>>other way around -- think of the water as a lake and the lye as snow >>> >>> >>-- >>you >> >> >>>sprinkle the snow onto the lake... pouring the water into a bowl of >>> >>> >>lye >> >> >>>causes too quick and severe a reaction and it's dangerous. Ya have to >>> >>> >>stir >> >> >>>until the mixture's the right consistency -- otherwise you get a >>> >>> >>really >>soft >> >> >>>bar that you can't remove from the mold and it melts in the shower. >>> >>>So, does that help? >>> >>>Actually, I think there's a good discussion on the 2003 beta >>> >>> >>developer's >> >> >>>CD -- >>> >>>Susan H. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Could someone give me a quick high level technical overview of >>>> >>>> >>SOAP? >> >> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Sun Apr 20 15:32:32 2003 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 13:32:32 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] OT: SOAP References: <001001c305ae$6dcdd440$39360cd8@hargrove.internal> <1050843203.3ea298430fe4e@hosea.qub.ac.uk> <006901c30748$52681b20$efe6ffcc@SusanOne> <001101c30771$01fa5df0$761118ac@D8TZHN0J> <1050868030.3ea2f93e5082a@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3EA303E0.3020709@shaw.ca> SOAP is a specification that defines the XML format for messages, and that's about it for the required parts of the spec. If you have a well-formed XML fragment enclosed in a couple of SOAP elements, you have a SOAP message. While this is all that is required for SOAP, it may not be enough for applications to talk to each other. If your application doesn't understand XML, you will need to represent your program's datatypes integers, floats, arrays, structs, and so onas XML data in the SOAP message. Section 5 of the SOAP standard specifies an XML notation for representing programming language types. This where you get into various Soap toolkits. WSDL is a a workable metadata standardized format for SOAP to describe XML elements in the SOAP message. SOAP doesnt have to use HTTP for transport. Here are some links to links that start to describe SOAP at various levels. http://searchwebservices.techtarget.com/bestWebLinks/0,289521,sid26_tax288852,00.html http://www.vbxml.com/soapworkshop/articles/intro/page1.asp Sample SOAP Message Syntax sent by client POST /examples HTTP/1.0 User-Agent: Radio UserLand/7.0 (MacOS) Host: localhost:81 Content-Type: text/xml Content-length: 474 SOAPAction: "examplecreditcheck" 123-456-7890 Sample SOAP HTTP returned with XML from SOAP listener Service on Remote Server HTTP/1.1 200 OK Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 07:21:19 GMT MessageType: CallResponse Content-Length: nnn Content-Type: text/xml Expires: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 07:21:20 GMT Cache-control: private >> >>> >>it, >>you >> >> >>>want to be careful to pour the lye into the water/oil mixture and not >>> >>> >>the >> >> >>>other way around -- think of the water as a lake and the lye as snow >>> >>> >>-- >>you >> >> >>>sprinkle the snow onto the lake... pouring the water into a bowl of >>> >>> >>lye >> >> >>>causes too quick and severe a reaction and it's dangerous. Ya have to >>> >>> >>stir >> >> >>>until the mixture's the right consistency -- otherwise you get a >>> >>> >>really >>soft >> >> >>>bar that you can't remove from the mold and it melts in the shower. >>> >>>So, does that help? >>> >>>Actually, I think there's a good discussion on the 2003 beta >>> >>> >>developer's >> >> >>>CD -- >>> >>>Susan H. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Could someone give me a quick high level technical overview of >>>> >>>> >>SOAP? >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>AccessD mailing list >>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>AccessD mailing list >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > From Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Sun Apr 20 15:33:49 2003 From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK (Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 21:33:49 +0100 (BST) Subject: [AccessD] OT: SOAP In-Reply-To: <3EA3010E.9030008@shaw.ca> References: <001001c305ae$6dcdd440$39360cd8@hargrove.internal> <1050843203.3ea298430fe4e@hosea.qub.ac.uk> <006901c30748$52681b20$efe6ffcc@SusanOne> <001101c30771$01fa5df0$761118ac@D8TZHN0J> <1050868030.3ea2f93e5082a@hosea.qub.ac.uk> <3EA3010E.9030008@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <1050870829.3ea3042da0e11@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Thanks Marty Martin From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Sun Apr 20 17:09:16 2003 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 15:09:16 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Surrogate vs Natural Keys and GUID's References: <001001c305ae$6dcdd440$39360cd8@hargrove.internal> <1050843203.3ea298430fe4e@hosea.qub.ac.uk> <006901c30748$52681b20$efe6ffcc@SusanOne> <001101c30771$01fa5df0$761118ac@D8TZHN0J> <1050868030.3ea2f93e5082a@hosea.qub.ac.uk> <3EA3010E.9030008@shaw.ca> <1050870829.3ea3042da0e11@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3EA31A8C.2030708@shaw.ca> Here is an interesting article on the speed of GUIDs with SQL. http://www.informit.com/isapi/product_id~{E3D24CE5-F2A0-4B16-A39C-7AB17525F07C}/session_id~{DC1DFD4E-98B7-4E40-B3B5-DE36CA8F9FEF}/content/index.asp One interesting bit. GUIDs are not as random as advertised. Listing 3: Some GUIDs Generated with SQL Server 7 on NT4 B3BFC6B1-05A2-11D6-9FBA-00C04FF317DF B3BFC6B2-05A2-11D6-9FBA-00C04FF317DF B3BFC6B3-05A2-11D6-9FBA-00C04FF317DF B3BFC6B4-05A2-11D6-9FBA-00C04FF317DF B3BFC6B5-05A2-11D6-9FBA-00C04FF317DF Listing 4: Some GUIDs Generated with SQL Server 2000 on Windows 2000 C87FC84A-EE47-47EE-842C-29E969AC5131 2A734AE4-E0EF-4D77-9F84-51A8365AC5A0 70E2E8DE-500E-4630-B3CB-166131D35C21 15ED815C-921C-4011-8667-7158982951EA 56B3BF2D-BDB0-4AFE-A26B-C8F59C4B5103 "As you saw in Listing 3, only the eighth half byte is changed between calls. On the other hand, in Listing 4, only the 13th half byte is constant between calls. In Windows 2000, the MAC address isn't used any longer for when GUIDs are generated. Instead, the GUID is only a 16-byte random number. Well, that isn't totally true. The 13th half byte is constant, so only 15.5 bytes are random. Adam Nathan at Microsoft explained to me that the 13th half byte is the value that will point out the source of the GUID, and 4 means Microsoft." From SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au Sun Apr 20 18:36:30 2003 From: SDSSoftware at Optusnet.com.au (Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 09:36:30 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Friday Humour References: <002e01c305e8$eb19e440$b274d0d5@andypc> <3EA0656C.4020800@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <00e901c30795$abf4e220$54dd31d2@OfficePC> Criminal record + sense of humour............ Absolute prerequisites! ----- Original Message ----- From: MartyConnelly To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 6:51 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday Humour I heard about an English guy that nearly got kicked out of Australia, while going through Customs and Immigration. He was asked "Do you have a criminal record?". He replied, " Is that still a requirement here?" Andy Lacey wrote: > > > > >>>Evidently, these are real answers and replies from a rather fed-up >>>Australian Tourist Information clerk who was initially very >>>enthusiastic at answering peoples' questions, until he realized the >>>sorts of people >>> >>> >he > > >>>was talking to...... >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>> >>>These questions about Australia were posted on an Australian Tourist >>> >>> > > > >>>Website and the answers came from an Aussie Customer Service rep. >>> >>>1. Q: Does it ever get windy in Australia? I have never seen it rain >>> >>> > > > >>>on TV, so how do the plants grow? (UK) >>>A: Actually, we import all plants fully grown and then just sit >>>around watching them die. >>> >>>2. Q: Will I be able to see kangaroos in the street? (USA) >>>A: Depends how much you've been drinking >>> >>>3. Q: I want to walk from Perth to Sydney - can I follow the >>>railroad tracks? (Sweden) >>>A: Sure, it's only three thousand miles, take lots of water... >>> >>>4. Q: Is it safe to run around in the bushes in Australia? (Sweden) >>>A: So its true what they say about Swedes. >>> >>>5. Q: It is imperative that I find the names and addresses of places >>> >>> > > > >>>to contact for a stuffed porpoise. (Italy) >>>A: Let's not touch this one. >>> >>>6. Q: Are there any ATMs (cash machines) in Australia? Can you send >>>me a list of them in Brisbane, Cairns, Townsville and Hervey Bay? >>>(UK) >>>A: What exactly did your last slave die of? >>> >>>7. Q: Can you give me some information about hippo racing in >>>Australia?(USA) >>>A: A-fri-ca is the big triangle shaped continent south of Europe. >>>Aus-tra-lia is that big island in the middle of the pacific which >>>does not... oh forget it. Sure, the hippo racing is every Tuesday >>>night in Kings Cross. Come naked. >>> >>>8. Q: Which direction is North in Australia? (USA) >>>A: Face south and then turn 90 degrees. Contact us when you get here >>> >>> > > > >>>and we'll send the rest of the directions. >>> >>>9. Q: Can I bring cutlery into Australia? (UK) >>>A: Why? Just use your fingers like we do. >>> >>>10.Q: Can you send me the Vienna Boys' Choir schedule? (USA) >>>A: Aus-tri-a is that quaint little country bordering Ger-man-y, >>>which is...oh forget it. Sure, the Vienna Boys Choir plays every >>>Tuesday night in Kings Cross, straight after the hippo races. Come >>>naked. >>> >>>11. Q: Do you have perfume in Australia? (France) >>>A: No, WE don't stink. >>> >>>12. Q: I have developed a new product that is the fountain of youth. >>> >>> > > > >>>Can you tell me where I can sell it in Australia? (USA) >>>A: Anywhere significant numbers of Americans gather. >>> >>>13. Q: Can I wear high heels in Australia? (UK) >>>A: You are a British politician, right? >>> >>>14. Q: Can you tell me the regions in Tasmania where the female >>> >>> >population > > >>>is smaller than the male population? (Italy) >>>A: Yes, gay nightclubs. >>> >>>15. Q: Do you celebrate Christmas in Australia? (France) >>>A: Only at Christmas. >>> >>>16. Q: Are there killer bees in Australia? (Germany) >>>A: Not yet, but for you, we'll import them. >>> >>>17. Q: Are there supermarkets in Sydney and is milk available all >>>year round? (Germany) >>>A: No, we are a peaceful civilisation of vegan hunter gatherers. >>>Milk is illegal. >>> >>>18. Q: Please send a list of all doctors in Australia who can >>>dispense rattlesnake serum. (USA) >>>A: Rattlesnakes live in A-meri-ca which is where YOU come from. All >>>Australian snakes are perfectly harmless, can be safely handled and >>>make good pets. >>> >>>19. Q: I have a question about a famous animal in Australia, but I >>> >>> >forget > > >>>its name. It's a kind of bear and lives in trees. (USA) >>>A: It's called a Drop Bear. They are so called because they drop out >>> >>> > > > >>>of gumtrees and eat the brains of anyone walking underneath them, >>>although you personally should be safe enough. If you are still >>>worried you can scare them off by spraying yourself with human urine >>> >>> > > > >>>before you go out walking. >>> >>>21. Q: I was in Australia in 1969 on R+R, and I want to contact the >>>girl >>> >>> >I > > >>>dated while I was staying in Kings Cross. Can you help? (USA) >>>A: Yes, but you will have to pay her by the hour, just like last >>>time. >>> >>>22. Q: Will I be able to speek English most places I go? (USA) >>>A: Yes, but you'll have to learn it first. >>> >>> >>> > >Andy Lacey >http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kathryn at bassett.net Sun Apr 20 20:42:03 2003 From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:42:03 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] pictures in a database In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just wanted to give a public thanks to Stuart McLachlan [stuart at lexacorp.com.pg] who helped me off-list. I will now be able to print the class reunion nametags, complete with pictures. Now to go link the other 800+ pictures instead of just the committee as I was using for testing. Thanks Stuart! -- Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA) "Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap" kathryn at bassett.net http://bassett.net From DWUTKA at marlow.com Sun Apr 20 22:26:31 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 22:26:31 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Hidden form technques Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82762@main2.marlow.com> I must say I am flabbergasted. Never used an AutoExec macro before? You do know about AutoKeys right? Those are the only two macros I ever use...unless it's a freak occurance. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 12:49 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Hidden form technques That worked. I've never used an AutoExec macro before, either. Two things learned in one day! A. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Ruff Sent: April 20, 2003 11:38 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Hidden form technques Arthur, You need to use an AutoExec macro to open the hidden form and in the Action Arguments section make the Window Mode: Hidden John V. Ruff - The Eternal Optimist :-) Always Looking For Contract Opportunities _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From pedro at plex.nl Mon Apr 21 05:50:47 2003 From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 12:50:47 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] select distinct per year References: <001801c30691$c9dc52f0$f1c581d5@pedro><01db01c30693$2f1c2a40$2d4afccc@SusanOne><002d01c306a3$04c12ab0$f1c581d5@pedro> <008e01c306b6$e7a30160$b1e6ffcc@SusanOne> Message-ID: <002101c307f4$457228f0$fac581d5@pedro> Hi Susan, i thought this could be done with a select distinct, but i wasn't sure This what i have TableA Date num1 num2 01-02-2000 5,2 4,1 02-03-2000 4,6 4,3 01-04-2001 4,2 6,5 14-07-2001 6,2 3,1 This is what i want; in this example the calculation is sum Date num1 num2 2000 9,8 8,4 2001 10,4 9,6 Pedro Janssen ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan Harkins To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 11:01 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] select distinct per year But you want only unique records based on both the record and the date field? I don't understand how DISTINCT fits in. Susan H. ----- Original Message ----- From: Pedro Janssen To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] select distinct per year Hello Susan, sorry i wasn't clear enough. For example: TableA has a date field and a number field. What i need is to make calculations on alle the record for the number field for each year. TIA Pedro Janssen ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan Harkins To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] select distinct per year SELECT DISTINCT fldlist|* FROM table WHERE DatePart("yyyy",datefield) = year =======But I'm guessing that's not really what you're after -- I'm not sure I understand -- you want the results for a particular year, or you want them all, just grouped by their year? Susan H. Hello Group, how can i make an select disctinct for all the record in a date field (dd-mm-yyyy) per year?? 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URL: From artful at rogers.com Mon Apr 21 06:35:03 2003 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 07:35:03 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Hidden form technques In-Reply-To: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82762@main2.marlow.com> Message-ID: <003d01c307fa$0cd80d10$8e01a8c0@Rock> No, actually, I think I used AutoExec once back in Access 1.1, but never since until yesterday. But did achieve exactly what I wanted: I have 3 versions of the app, each beginning on a different switchboard page. I change one constant in the hidden form, which then opens the switchboard and passes an argument in. The switchboard code looks for that starting page and that's that. I then make the ADE for each version and presto, done. A. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: April 20, 2003 11:27 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Hidden form technques I must say I am flabbergasted. Never used an AutoExec macro before? You do know about AutoKeys right? Those are the only two macros I ever use...unless it's a freak occurance. Drew From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Mon Apr 21 06:40:10 2003 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 21:40:10 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] select distinct per year In-Reply-To: <002101c307f4$457228f0$fac581d5@pedro> Message-ID: <3EA4653A.25291.1DE884@localhost> On 21 Apr 2003 at 12:50, Pedro Janssen wrote: > Hi Susan, > > i thought this could be done with a select distinct, but i wasn't sure > > This what i have > > TableA > > Date num1 num2 > 01-02-2000 5,2 4,1 > 02-03-2000 4,6 4,3 > 01-04-2001 4,2 6,5 > 14-07-2001 6,2 3,1 > > > This is what i want; > in this example the calculation is sum > > Date num1 num2 > 2000 9,8 8,4 > 2001 10,4 9,6 > Note , I renames your field "Date" to nDate. It's not a good idea to use reserved words as field names. SELECT Year([nDate]) , Sum(num1) , Sum(num2) FROM tNumbers GROUP BY Year([nDate]) You can build this (or at least a longer version including table naes etc) directly in Query Design by going to View - Show Totals, creating a field as "nYear:Year([nDate])" , adding Num1 and Num2 as selected fields and then setting Grouping as "Group By" for the first field and "Sum" for Num1 and Num2. Then click on SQL View to see what it looks like. You can copy/paste the resulting SQL into a string if you need to use it as a record source or in a DoCmd.RunSQL command -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. From artful at rogers.com Mon Apr 21 06:44:54 2003 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 07:44:54 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] select distinct per year In-Reply-To: <002101c307f4$457228f0$fac581d5@pedro> Message-ID: <003e01c307fb$6cf2e7f0$8e01a8c0@Rock> In SQL the query is: select datepart(yyyy,dateentered), sum(num1), sum(num2) from TableA group by datepart(yyyy,dateentered) In Access, substitute the year() function for datepart(). Arthur -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen Sent: April 21, 2003 6:51 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] select distinct per year Hi Susan, i thought this could be done with a select distinct, but i wasn't sure This what i have TableA Date num1 num2 01-02-2000 5,2 4,1 02-03-2000 4,6 4,3 01-04-2001 4,2 6,5 14-07-2001 6,2 3,1 This is what i want; in this example the calculation is sum Date num1 num2 2000 9,8 8,4 2001 10,4 9,6 Pedro Janssen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Mon Apr 21 06:49:49 2003 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 21:49:49 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Hidden form technques In-Reply-To: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82762@main2.marlow.com> Message-ID: <3EA4677D.23469.26C0DD@localhost> On 20 Apr 2003 at 22:26, Drew Wutka wrote: > I must say I am flabbergasted. Never used an AutoExec macro before? > You do know about AutoKeys right? Those are the only two macros I > ever use...unless it's a freak occurance. > I use Autoexec frequently. But only ever with a single Action: "RunCode". Then I stick all of my startup code in a Function. I've never come across a valid use for Autokeys. I stick with the WIMP interface and let my users do anything they need to do with a button click. But I do often use an ampersand in the Button caption so that they can use an Alt+letter keyboard shortcut to the button. -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Mon Apr 21 07:19:32 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 07:19:32 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey Message-ID: Martin, 1. List of features that no longer work as in the previous version. 2. List of features that still work but are no longer supported. 3. List of new features. 4. List of reasons why for 1., 2., and 3. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK [mailto:Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK] Sent: Saturday 2003 Apr 19 04:48 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey Folks When a new version of Access is released by MS, what sort of information about the new version do you need to be available right away. This is a major opportunity to get what you want included in the White Paper aimed at developers of Access solutions. I want to ensure that real world issues are covered i.e. give you the sort of stuff you want as opposed to what some people think you need. Martin From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Mon Apr 21 07:43:57 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 07:43:57 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] select distinct per year Message-ID: Pedro, It is Grouping you want, not distinct. And Sum(num1) and Sum(num2). Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl] Sent: Monday 2003 Apr 21 05:51 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] select distinct per year Importance: Low Hi Susan, i thought this could be done with a select distinct, but i wasn't sure This what i have TableA Date num1 num2 01-02-2000 5,2 4,1 02-03-2000 4,6 4,3 01-04-2001 4,2 6,5 14-07-2001 6,2 3,1 This is what i want; in this example the calculation is sum Date num1 num2 2000 9,8 8,4 2001 10,4 9,6 Pedro Janssen ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan Harkins To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 11:01 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] select distinct per year But you want only unique records based on both the record and the date field? I don't understand how DISTINCT fits in. Susan H. ----- Original Message ----- From: Pedro Janssen To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] select distinct per year Hello Susan, sorry i wasn't clear enough. For example: TableA has a date field and a number field. What i need is to make calculations on alle the record for the number field for each year. TIA Pedro Janssen ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan Harkins To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] select distinct per year SELECT DISTINCT fldlist|* FROM table WHERE DatePart("yyyy",datefield) = year =======But I'm guessing that's not really what you're after -- I'm not sure I understand -- you want the results for a particular year, or you want them all, just grouped by their year? Susan H. Hello Group, how can i make an select disctinct for all the record in a date field (dd-mm-yyyy) per year?? 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URL: From JHewson at karta.com Mon Apr 21 07:56:42 2003 From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 07:56:42 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] pictures in a database Message-ID: <353A32F9B331D411BB8F00A0C9FC503701294B43@NT04> When I had to link several pictures to a pictorial directory, I used the first name and last name (without spaces of course) as the picture name. My source for the object for the picture was actually created as the record was displayed. That way, a picture field is not needed in the table. When a picture was identified, it was renamed and then became available immediately for the directory. Good luck - 800 is a lot of pictures! Jim -----Original Message----- From: Kathryn Bassett [mailto:kathryn at bassett.net] Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 8:42 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] pictures in a database Just wanted to give a public thanks to Stuart McLachlan [stuart at lexacorp.com.pg] who helped me off-list. I will now be able to print the class reunion nametags, complete with pictures. Now to go link the other 800+ pictures instead of just the committee as I was using for testing. Thanks Stuart! -- Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA) "Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap" kathryn at bassett.net http://bassett.net _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From harkins at iglou.com Mon Apr 21 08:03:49 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 09:03:49 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] select distinct per year References: <3EA4653A.25291.1DE884@localhost> Message-ID: <008d01c30809$4e60cb00$fde6ffcc@SusanOne> Keep in mind, the results of a GROUP BY are read-only. Susan H. > SELECT Year([nDate]) , Sum(num1) , Sum(num2) > FROM tNumbers > GROUP BY Year([nDate]) From Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Mon Apr 21 08:39:16 2003 From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK (Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 14:39:16 +0100 (BST) Subject: [AccessD] OT ASP and MYSQL In-Reply-To: <008d01c30809$4e60cb00$fde6ffcc@SusanOne> References: <3EA4653A.25291.1DE884@localhost> <008d01c30809$4e60cb00$fde6ffcc@SusanOne> Message-ID: <1050932356.3ea3f484dd581@hosea.qub.ac.uk> IS there a way to test for a Primary Key from a MySQL database using .NET? Martin From artful at rogers.com Mon Apr 21 09:02:12 2003 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 10:02:12 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT ASP and MYSQL In-Reply-To: <1050932356.3ea3f484dd581@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <001301c3080e$9badd150$8e01a8c0@Rock> What do you mean by test for it? Find out if 12345 already exists, or insert a row and then interrogate its PK? Arthur -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Sent: April 21, 2003 9:39 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] OT ASP and MYSQL IS there a way to test for a Primary Key from a MySQL database using .NET? Martin From michael.mattys at adelphia.net Mon Apr 21 09:05:25 2003 From: michael.mattys at adelphia.net (Michael R Mattys) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 10:05:25 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs References: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F29038A33@server.bondsoftware.co.nz> <004a01c30475$333964f0$6101a8c0@amd2k512> Message-ID: <00a301c3080f$0fca6580$6401a8c0@default> I have a client who wants me to do all development over a high-speed VPN on their server. In what manner should I agree to this? Or not? Mike Mattys ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Hindman" > ...yes, always unless the client stipulates otherwise ...and then I include > a clause about individual copyrights where such code is used AND charge him > a stiff differential for it ...client response varies ...most really don't > care about the code, they get it confused with the ownership of their data > ...but for those that do, its available. > > William Hindman > "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund > Burke > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephen Bond" > > William, do you ever assert ownership of the code at the beginning of a > contract? Down here, the law says it is the client's unless asserted at the > start of the contract, so I do. From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Mon Apr 21 09:13:05 2003 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 10:13:05 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem Message-ID: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF40389771F@xlivmbx12.aig.com> Cross posted to Access-D Here's one for all you Registry hackers out there. Whenever I open a table to take a look at the data, invariably the window that opens is sized and positioned to that I cannot see the bottom row or two of data, and consequently I cannot see the navigation buttons at the bottom either. I have to resize the window every time. Module windows exhibit the same problem, though to a lesser degree. The window is not quite so oversized as a table window. Does anyone know how I can persuade Access (97) to use a different window size/position for these objects. I've tried closing the MDE window while holding down the Shift key, the Controls key etc. I've tried selecting 'Save' from the file menu, but nothing seems to work. Thanks, Lambert From michael.mattys at adelphia.net Mon Apr 21 09:29:45 2003 From: michael.mattys at adelphia.net (Michael R Mattys) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 10:29:45 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem References: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF40389771F@xlivmbx12.aig.com> Message-ID: <00be01c30812$764961a0$6401a8c0@default> Lambert Not sure about your specific situation, but try going to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ Microsoft\Office\8.0\Access\Settings Delete FormPopPropST so that Access has to rebuild it. It is the last saved position Mike Mattys ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heenan, Lambert" To: "Access-D Email (E-mail)" ; "ACCESS-L Email (E-mail)" Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 10:13 AM Subject: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > Cross posted to Access-D > > Here's one for all you Registry hackers out there. > > Whenever I open a table to take a look at the data, invariably the window > that opens is sized and positioned to that I cannot see the bottom row or > two of data, and consequently I cannot see the navigation buttons at the > bottom either. I have to resize the window every time. Module windows > exhibit the same problem, though to a lesser degree. The window is not quite > so oversized as a table window. > > Does anyone know how I can persuade Access (97) to use a different window > size/position for these objects. I've tried closing the MDE window while > holding down the Shift key, the Controls key etc. I've tried selecting > 'Save' from the file menu, but nothing seems to work. > > Thanks, > > Lambert > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Mon Apr 21 09:30:07 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 10:30:07 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs References: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F29038A33@server.bondsoftware.co.nz><004a01c30475$333964f0$6101a8c0@amd2k512> <00a301c3080f$0fca6580$6401a8c0@default> Message-ID: <004601c30812$81a7fed0$6101a8c0@amd2k512> ...send him to me! :))) ...my goal at this stage of my retirement is to convince every client that I can support them over a high-speed VPN ...from Costa Rica :)))))))))))))))) ...the only objection I'd have is that you definitely want to work on one of their workstations rather than on their server ...otherwise, as long as you secure your code, I don't see the problem ...unless you mean he's actually expecting you to accomplish ALL development across the VPN rather than just interfacing with his systems for installation and maintenance ...now that could be a real drag since the term "high speed VPN" is essentially meaningless in a development mode ...he'd have to give you a dedicated T1 to keep you as productive as you are on a local workstation ...and even then there would be problems such as access to all your own code libraries, development tools, and template mdbs :( William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael R Mattys" To: Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > I have a client who wants me to do all development > over a high-speed VPN on their server. > > In what manner should I agree to this? Or not? > > Mike Mattys > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William Hindman" > > ...yes, always unless the client stipulates otherwise ...and then I > include > > a clause about individual copyrights where such code is used AND charge > him > > a stiff differential for it ...client response varies ...most really don't > > care about the code, they get it confused with the ownership of their data > > ...but for those that do, its available. > > > > William Hindman > > "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund > > Burke > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Stephen Bond" > > > William, do you ever assert ownership of the code at the beginning of a > > contract? Down here, the law says it is the client's unless asserted at > the > > start of the contract, so I do. > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From michael.mattys at adelphia.net Mon Apr 21 09:38:16 2003 From: michael.mattys at adelphia.net (Michael R Mattys) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 10:38:16 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs References: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F29038A33@server.bondsoftware.co.nz><004a01c30475$333964f0$6101a8c0@amd2k512><00a301c3080f$0fca6580$6401a8c0@default> <004601c30812$81a7fed0$6101a8c0@amd2k512> Message-ID: <00cf01c30813$a648b710$6401a8c0@default> The problems are: I am locked in and cannot transfer anything in or out. How to secure the code? Mike Mattys ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Hindman" To: Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > ...send him to me! :))) > > ...my goal at this stage of my retirement is to convince every client that I > can support them over a high-speed VPN ...from Costa Rica :)))))))))))))))) > > ...the only objection I'd have is that you definitely want to work on one of > their workstations rather than on their server ...otherwise, as long as you > secure your code, I don't see the problem ...unless you mean he's actually > expecting you to accomplish ALL development across the VPN rather than just > interfacing with his systems for installation and maintenance ...now that > could be a real drag since the term "high speed VPN" is essentially > meaningless in a development mode ...he'd have to give you a dedicated T1 to > keep you as productive as you are on a local workstation ...and even then > there would be problems such as access to all your own code libraries, > development tools, and template mdbs :( > > William Hindman > "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund > Burke > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael R Mattys" > To: > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 10:05 AM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > > > > I have a client who wants me to do all development > > over a high-speed VPN on their server. > > > > In what manner should I agree to this? Or not? > > > > Mike Mattys > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "William Hindman" > > > ...yes, always unless the client stipulates otherwise ...and then I > > include > > > a clause about individual copyrights where such code is used AND charge > > him > > > a stiff differential for it ...client response varies ...most really > don't > > > care about the code, they get it confused with the ownership of their > data > > > ...but for those that do, its available. > > > > > > William Hindman > > > "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund > > > Burke > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Stephen Bond" > > > > William, do you ever assert ownership of the code at the beginning of > a > > > contract? Down here, the law says it is the client's unless asserted at > > the > > > start of the contract, so I do. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From djkr at msn.com Mon Apr 21 09:57:04 2003 From: djkr at msn.com (DJK(John) Robinson) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 15:57:04 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <031a01c30816$45b0c020$db00a8c0@dabsight> Charles I second that strongly. This is the best list yet. I'd like to add: 5. List of bugs cleared by this version. And of course the one we'd all like to know, wouldn't we: 6. List of bugs introduced in this version. ;-) John > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Wortz, Charles > Sent: 21 April 2003 13:20 > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey > > > Martin, > > 1. List of features that no longer work as in the previous version. > 2. List of features that still work but are no longer supported. > 3. List of new features. > 4. List of reasons why for 1., 2., and 3. > > Charles Wortz > Software Development Division > Texas Education Agency > 1701 N. Congress Ave > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > 512-463-9493 > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK > [mailto:Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK] > Sent: Saturday 2003 Apr 19 04:48 > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey > > Folks > > When a new version of Access is released by MS, what sort of > information > about > the new version do you need to be available right away. > > This is a major opportunity to get what you want included in the White > Paper > aimed at developers of Access solutions. > > I want to ensure that real world issues are covered i.e. give you the > sort of > stuff you want as opposed to what some people think you need. > > > Martin > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Mon Apr 21 10:28:16 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 11:28:16 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs References: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F29038A33@server.bondsoftware.co.nz><004a01c30475$333964f0$6101a8c0@amd2k512><00a301c3080f$0fca6580$6401a8c0@default><004601c30812$81a7fed0$6101a8c0@amd2k512> <00cf01c30813$a648b710$6401a8c0@default> Message-ID: <008e01c3081a$a2341500$6101a8c0@amd2k512> ...securing your code is fairly simple and effective with XP encryption, mdes, and ms security ...plenty of examples in the archives on this topic ...but definitely insist upon installing your own key logging detection software (I prefer Pest Patrol) so that they can't grab your passwords ...and use REAL passwords and encrypt everything! ...langa's list just pointed out how simple it is to bypass unencrypted security using linux boot CDs on Win systems ...incredible :) ...the lock-in shouldn't be a major problem ...you'd still have access to your code libraries but using your templates and tools would be problematic ...you'd have to rekey a module rather than just import it ...less productive than you otherwise are but not a death blow ...point that out to them and factor it into your price :) William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael R Mattys" To: Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > The problems are: > > I am locked in and cannot transfer anything in or out. > How to secure the code? > > Mike Mattys > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William Hindman" > To: > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 10:30 AM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > > > > ...send him to me! :))) > > > > ...my goal at this stage of my retirement is to convince every client that > I > > can support them over a high-speed VPN ...from Costa Rica > :)))))))))))))))) > > > > ...the only objection I'd have is that you definitely want to work on one > of > > their workstations rather than on their server ...otherwise, as long as > you > > secure your code, I don't see the problem ...unless you mean he's actually > > expecting you to accomplish ALL development across the VPN rather than > just > > interfacing with his systems for installation and maintenance ...now that > > could be a real drag since the term "high speed VPN" is essentially > > meaningless in a development mode ...he'd have to give you a dedicated T1 > to > > keep you as productive as you are on a local workstation ...and even then > > there would be problems such as access to all your own code libraries, > > development tools, and template mdbs :( > > > > William Hindman > > "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund > > Burke > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Michael R Mattys" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 10:05 AM > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > > > > > > > I have a client who wants me to do all development > > > over a high-speed VPN on their server. > > > > > > In what manner should I agree to this? Or not? > > > > > > Mike Mattys > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "William Hindman" > > > > ...yes, always unless the client stipulates otherwise ...and then I > > > include > > > > a clause about individual copyrights where such code is used AND > charge > > > him > > > > a stiff differential for it ...client response varies ...most really > > don't > > > > care about the code, they get it confused with the ownership of their > > data > > > > ...but for those that do, its available. > > > > > > > > William Hindman > > > > "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." > Edmund > > > > Burke > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Stephen Bond" > > > > > William, do you ever assert ownership of the code at the beginning > of > > a > > > > contract? Down here, the law says it is the client's unless asserted > at > > > the > > > > start of the contract, so I do. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > AccessD mailing list > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Mon Apr 21 10:29:31 2003 From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK (Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 16:29:31 +0100 (BST) Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey In-Reply-To: <031a01c30816$45b0c020$db00a8c0@dabsight> References: <031a01c30816$45b0c020$db00a8c0@dabsight> Message-ID: <1050938971.3ea40e5b808eb@hosea.qub.ac.uk> 5. List of bugs cleared by this version. None to very few. 6. List of bugs introduced in this version. Signed Digital Security Certificates and Macro Security Martin > > John > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > > Wortz, Charles > > Sent: 21 April 2003 13:20 > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey > > > > > > Martin, > > > > 1. List of features that no longer work as in the previous version. > > 2. List of features that still work but are no longer supported. > > 3. List of new features. > > 4. List of reasons why for 1., 2., and 3. > > > > Charles Wortz > > Software Development Division > > Texas Education Agency > > 1701 N. Congress Ave > > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > > 512-463-9493 > > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK > > [mailto:Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK] > > Sent: Saturday 2003 Apr 19 04:48 > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey > > > > Folks > > > > When a new version of Access is released by MS, what sort of > > information > > about > > the new version do you need to be available right away. > > > > This is a major opportunity to get what you want included in the > White > > Paper > > aimed at developers of Access solutions. > > > > I want to ensure that real world issues are covered i.e. give you > the > > sort of > > stuff you want as opposed to what some people think you need. > > > > > > Martin > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Mon Apr 21 10:33:16 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 11:33:16 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey References: <031a01c30816$45b0c020$db00a8c0@dabsight> <1050938971.3ea40e5b808eb@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <009901c3081b$54755260$6101a8c0@amd2k512> ...I've just never understood Irish humor :) William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 11:29 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey > 5. List of bugs cleared by this version. > > None to very few. > > > 6. List of bugs introduced in this version. > > Signed Digital Security Certificates and Macro Security > > > Martin > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > > > Wortz, Charles > > > Sent: 21 April 2003 13:20 > > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey > > > > > > > > > Martin, > > > > > > 1. List of features that no longer work as in the previous version. > > > 2. List of features that still work but are no longer supported. > > > 3. List of new features. > > > 4. List of reasons why for 1., 2., and 3. > > > > > > Charles Wortz > > > Software Development Division > > > Texas Education Agency > > > 1701 N. Congress Ave > > > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > > > 512-463-9493 > > > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK > > > [mailto:Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK] > > > Sent: Saturday 2003 Apr 19 04:48 > > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > > Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey > > > > > > Folks > > > > > > When a new version of Access is released by MS, what sort of > > > information > > > about > > > the new version do you need to be available right away. > > > > > > This is a major opportunity to get what you want included in the > > White > > > Paper > > > aimed at developers of Access solutions. > > > > > > I want to ensure that real world issues are covered i.e. give you > > the > > > sort of > > > stuff you want as opposed to what some people think you need. > > > > > > > > > Martin > > > _______________________________________________ > > > AccessD mailing list > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Mon Apr 21 10:35:05 2003 From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK (Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 16:35:05 +0100 (BST) Subject: [AccessD] OT ASP and MYSQL In-Reply-To: <001301c3080e$9badd150$8e01a8c0@Rock> References: <001301c3080e$9badd150$8e01a8c0@Rock> Message-ID: <1050939305.3ea40fa9d3d65@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Hi Arthur Just find out which of columns 1 - x is the PK column. If you can tell me how to find the PK type generally I can work out how to do it with .NET Simply want to test a table and ID the PK column. Martin Quoting Arthur Fuller : > What do you mean by test for it? Find out if 12345 already exists, or > insert > a row and then interrogate its PK? > > Arthur > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK > Sent: April 21, 2003 9:39 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] OT ASP and MYSQL > > > IS there a way to test for a Primary Key from a MySQL database using > .NET? > > > Martin > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From CWortz at tea.state.tx.us Mon Apr 21 10:39:21 2003 From: CWortz at tea.state.tx.us (Wortz, Charles) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 10:39:21 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey Message-ID: Martin, Are you saying that Signed Digital Security Certificates and Macro Security are both buggy? But then what is one to expect from a bunch of idiots that cannot ever get it through their pea-brains to always check for buffer overflow? Everyone at Microsoft, from Bill Gates on down, needs to have signs on top of their monitors that say "Check for buffer overflow!" Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK [mailto:Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK] Sent: Monday 2003 Apr 21 10:30 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey 5. List of bugs cleared by this version. None to very few. 6. List of bugs introduced in this version. Signed Digital Security Certificates and Macro Security Martin > > John > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > > Wortz, Charles > > Sent: 21 April 2003 13:20 > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey > > > > > > Martin, > > > > 1. List of features that no longer work as in the previous version. > > 2. List of features that still work but are no longer supported. 3. > > List of new features. 4. List of reasons why for 1., 2., and 3. > > > > Charles Wortz > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK > > [mailto:Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK] > > Sent: Saturday 2003 Apr 19 04:48 > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey > > > > Folks > > > > When a new version of Access is released by MS, what sort of > > information > > about > > the new version do you need to be available right away. > > > > This is a major opportunity to get what you want included in the > White > > Paper > > aimed at developers of Access solutions. > > > > I want to ensure that real world issues are covered i.e. give you > the > > sort of > > stuff you want as opposed to what some people think you need. > > > > > > Martin From jim.hale at fleetpride.com Mon Apr 21 11:02:25 2003 From: jim.hale at fleetpride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 11:02:25 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Are DAP's any good? Message-ID: <869379ABF177D4118D3100508B5EF87305B5BA4B@corp-es00> I am thinking of using DAP's for a web based input form. However, I see very little mention of them here. Are they one of those "features" that sound good on paper but are more trouble to implement then they are worth? I will be implementing the form on our intranet. All relevant users have office, albeit different versions. TIA for any experiences you wish to share. Jim hale -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jim.hale at fleetpride.com Mon Apr 21 11:15:14 2003 From: jim.hale at fleetpride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 11:15:14 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs Message-ID: <869379ABF177D4118D3100508B5EF87305B5BA50@corp-es00> <...my goal at this stage of my retirement is to convince every client that I can support them over a high-speed VPN ...from Costa Rica :))))))))))))))))> No fair, u stole my idea :-)) High speed lines outside of San Jose can still be a problem, however. Jim h -----Original Message----- From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 9:30 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs ...send him to me! :))) ...my goal at this stage of my retirement is to convince every client that I can support them over a high-speed VPN ...from Costa Rica :)))))))))))))))) ...the only objection I'd have is that you definitely want to work on one of their workstations rather than on their server ...otherwise, as long as you secure your code, I don't see the problem ...unless you mean he's actually expecting you to accomplish ALL development across the VPN rather than just interfacing with his systems for installation and maintenance ...now that could be a real drag since the term "high speed VPN" is essentially meaningless in a development mode ...he'd have to give you a dedicated T1 to keep you as productive as you are on a local workstation ...and even then there would be problems such as access to all your own code libraries, development tools, and template mdbs :( William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael R Mattys" To: Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Secured vs. Unsecured FEs > I have a client who wants me to do all development > over a high-speed VPN on their server. > > In what manner should I agree to this? Or not? > > Mike Mattys > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William Hindman" > > ...yes, always unless the client stipulates otherwise ...and then I > include > > a clause about individual copyrights where such code is used AND charge > him > > a stiff differential for it ...client response varies ...most really don't > > care about the code, they get it confused with the ownership of their data > > ...but for those that do, its available. > > > > William Hindman > > "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund > > Burke > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Stephen Bond" > > > William, do you ever assert ownership of the code at the beginning of a > > contract? Down here, the law says it is the client's unless asserted at > the > > start of the contract, so I do. > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From harkins at iglou.com Mon Apr 21 11:29:42 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 12:29:42 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Are DAP's any good? References: <869379ABF177D4118D3100508B5EF87305B5BA4B@corp-es00> Message-ID: <004d01c30823$3f541b20$a2e6ffcc@SusanOne> Are DAP's any good?If you're going with a public site, they're not a good choice. You need IE to be fully interactive. If the client's not IE, the page may or may not work -- usually you can see the data, but the client might not be able to interact with it. Of course, if that doesn't matter... If it's an Intranet and you can control the environment, they're a nice shortcut if you won't need to custom them. They don't use VBA, so they're hard to customize. Susan H. I am thinking of using DAP's for a web based input form. However, I see very little mention of them here. Are they one of those "features" that sound good on paper but are more trouble to implement then they are worth? I will be implementing the form on our intranet. All relevant users have office, albeit different versions. TIA for any experiences you wish to share. Jim hale ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Mon Apr 21 11:34:23 2003 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 12:34:23 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem Message-ID: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF403897728@xlivmbx12.aig.com> Hi Mike, Thanks for your reply, but unfortunately that was not the cure. I tried deleting the key, and then launched Access. No change. Nor did Access rebuild the key entry, but I'd saved it beforehand. The value in the key was 1;403;687;937;983; So I tried changing some of those numbers, but nothing seemed to make any difference. Lambert > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael R Mattys [SMTP:michael.mattys at adelphia.net] > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 10:30 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > Lambert > > Not sure about your specific situation, but try going to > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ > Microsoft\Office\8.0\Access\Settings > > Delete FormPopPropST so that Access has to rebuild it. > It is the last saved position > > Mike Mattys > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Heenan, Lambert" > To: "Access-D Email (E-mail)" ; "ACCESS-L > Email (E-mail)" > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 10:13 AM > Subject: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > > > Cross posted to Access-D > > > > Here's one for all you Registry hackers out there. > > > > Whenever I open a table to take a look at the data, invariably the > window > > that opens is sized and positioned to that I cannot see the bottom row > or > > two of data, and consequently I cannot see the navigation buttons at the > > bottom either. I have to resize the window every time. Module windows > > exhibit the same problem, though to a lesser degree. The window is not > quite > > so oversized as a table window. > > > > Does anyone know how I can persuade Access (97) to use a different > window > > size/position for these objects. I've tried closing the MDE window while > > holding down the Shift key, the Controls key etc. I've tried selecting > > 'Save' from the file menu, but nothing seems to work. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Lambert From michael.mattys at adelphia.net Mon Apr 21 11:57:30 2003 From: michael.mattys at adelphia.net (Michael R Mattys) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 12:57:30 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem References: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF403897728@xlivmbx12.aig.com> Message-ID: <00fb01c30827$1b310510$6401a8c0@default> My apologies, Lambert I meant TDPopPropST, though that may not work either. The article you may want to look up is Q200412 Mike Mattys ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heenan, Lambert" To: Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 12:34 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > Hi Mike, > > Thanks for your reply, but unfortunately that was not the cure. I tried > deleting the key, and then launched Access. No change. Nor did Access > rebuild the key entry, but I'd saved it beforehand. The value in the key was > > 1;403;687;937;983; > > So I tried changing some of those numbers, but nothing seemed to make any > difference. > > Lambert > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Michael R Mattys [SMTP:michael.mattys at adelphia.net] > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 10:30 AM > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > > > Lambert > > > > Not sure about your specific situation, but try going to > > > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ > > Microsoft\Office\8.0\Access\Settings > > > > Delete FormPopPropST so that Access has to rebuild it. > > It is the last saved position > > > > Mike Mattys > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Heenan, Lambert" > > To: "Access-D Email (E-mail)" ; "ACCESS-L > > Email (E-mail)" > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 10:13 AM > > Subject: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > > > > > > Cross posted to Access-D > > > > > > Here's one for all you Registry hackers out there. > > > > > > Whenever I open a table to take a look at the data, invariably the > > window > > > that opens is sized and positioned to that I cannot see the bottom row > > or > > > two of data, and consequently I cannot see the navigation buttons at the > > > bottom either. I have to resize the window every time. Module windows > > > exhibit the same problem, though to a lesser degree. The window is not > > quite > > > so oversized as a table window. > > > > > > Does anyone know how I can persuade Access (97) to use a different > > window > > > size/position for these objects. I've tried closing the MDE window while > > > holding down the Shift key, the Controls key etc. I've tried selecting > > > 'Save' from the file menu, but nothing seems to work. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Lambert > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Mon Apr 21 12:19:27 2003 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 13:19:27 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem Message-ID: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF403897729@xlivmbx12.aig.com> Thanks again, but I'm afraid that was not it either. The article you pointed out to me is about repositioning the various property sheet dialogs, not the actual MDE windows that tables and modules are displayed in. Good try though :-) Lambert > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael R Mattys [SMTP:michael.mattys at adelphia.net] > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 12:58 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > > My apologies, Lambert > I meant TDPopPropST, though that may not work either. > The article you may want to look up is Q200412 > > Mike Mattys > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Heenan, Lambert" > To: > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 12:34 PM > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > > > Hi Mike, > > > > Thanks for your reply, but unfortunately that was not the cure. I tried > > deleting the key, and then launched Access. No change. Nor did Access > > rebuild the key entry, but I'd saved it beforehand. The value in the key > was > > > > 1;403;687;937;983; > > > > So I tried changing some of those numbers, but nothing seemed to make > any > > difference. > > > > Lambert > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Michael R Mattys [SMTP:michael.mattys at adelphia.net] > > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 10:30 AM > > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > > > > > Lambert > > > > > > Not sure about your specific situation, but try going to > > > > > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ > > > Microsoft\Office\8.0\Access\Settings > > > > > > Delete FormPopPropST so that Access has to rebuild it. > > > It is the last saved position > > > > > > Mike Mattys > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Heenan, Lambert" > > > To: "Access-D Email (E-mail)" ; > "ACCESS-L > > > Email (E-mail)" > > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 10:13 AM > > > Subject: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > > > > > > > > > Cross posted to Access-D > > > > > > > > Here's one for all you Registry hackers out there. > > > > > > > > Whenever I open a table to take a look at the data, invariably the > > > window > > > > that opens is sized and positioned to that I cannot see the bottom > row > > > or > > > > two of data, and consequently I cannot see the navigation buttons at > the > > > > bottom either. I have to resize the window every time. Module > windows > > > > exhibit the same problem, though to a lesser degree. The window is > not > > > quite > > > > so oversized as a table window. > > > > > > > > Does anyone know how I can persuade Access (97) to use a different > > > window > > > > size/position for these objects. I've tried closing the MDE window > while > > > > holding down the Shift key, the Controls key etc. I've tried > selecting > > > > 'Save' from the file menu, but nothing seems to work. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Lambert > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Mon Apr 21 12:26:18 2003 From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK (Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 18:26:18 +0100 (BST) Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1050945978.3ea429badc501@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Not really was a joke. They do cause problems in multi version development environments. Martin Quoting "Wortz, Charles" : > Martin, > > Are you saying that Signed Digital Security Certificates and Macro > Security are both buggy? But then what is one to expect from a bunch > of > idiots that cannot ever get it through their pea-brains to always > check > for buffer overflow? Everyone at Microsoft, from Bill Gates on down, > needs to have signs on top of their monitors that say "Check for > buffer > overflow!" > > Charles Wortz > Software Development Division > Texas Education Agency > 1701 N. Congress Ave > Austin, TX 78701-1494 > 512-463-9493 > CWortz at tea.state.tx.us > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK > [mailto:Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK] > Sent: Monday 2003 Apr 21 10:30 > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey > > 5. List of bugs cleared by this version. > > None to very few. > > > 6. List of bugs introduced in this version. > > Signed Digital Security Certificates and Macro Security > > > Martin > > > > John > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > > > Wortz, Charles > > > Sent: 21 April 2003 13:20 > > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey > > > > > > > > > Martin, > > > > > > 1. List of features that no longer work as in the previous > version. > > > > 2. List of features that still work but are no longer supported. > 3. > > > > List of new features. 4. List of reasons why for 1., 2., and 3. > > > > > > Charles Wortz > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK > > > [mailto:Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK] > > > Sent: Saturday 2003 Apr 19 04:48 > > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > > Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey > > > > > > Folks > > > > > > When a new version of Access is released by MS, what sort of > > > information > > > about > > > the new version do you need to be available right away. > > > > > > This is a major opportunity to get what you want included in the > > White > > > Paper > > > aimed at developers of Access solutions. > > > > > > I want to ensure that real world issues are covered i.e. give you > > the > > > sort of > > > stuff you want as opposed to what some people think you need. > > > > > > > > > Martin > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Mon Apr 21 12:30:31 2003 From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK (Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 18:30:31 +0100 (BST) Subject: [AccessD] Are DAP's any good? In-Reply-To: <004d01c30823$3f541b20$a2e6ffcc@SusanOne> References: <869379ABF177D4118D3100508B5EF87305B5BA4B@corp-es00> <004d01c30823$3f541b20$a2e6ffcc@SusanOne> Message-ID: <1050946231.3ea42ab79ab24@hosea.qub.ac.uk> I like the technology but otherwise unless you are in a position to control the browser being used they are more or less useless. ASP.NET will get you most of the features. Martin Quoting Susan Harkins : > Are DAP's any good?If you're going with a public site, they're not a > good > choice. You need IE to be fully interactive. If the client's not IE, > the > page may or may not work -- usually you can see the data, but the > client > might not be able to interact with it. Of course, if that doesn't > matter... > > If it's an Intranet and you can control the environment, they're a > nice > shortcut if you won't need to custom them. They don't use VBA, so > they're > hard to customize. > > Susan H. > > > I am thinking of using DAP's for a web based input form. However, I > see > very little mention of them here. Are they one of those "features" > that > sound good on paper but are more trouble to implement then they are > worth? I > will be implementing the form on our intranet. All relevant users > have > office, albeit different versions. TIA for any experiences you wish to > share. > > Jim hale > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From scott.marcus at ae.ge.com Mon Apr 21 14:22:00 2003 From: scott.marcus at ae.ge.com (Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting)) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 15:22:00 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem Message-ID: <768A0EA6FF8CB34FA522978966E5D52E559D78@bwam02msx.ae.ge.com> Can't you just maximize the given window to solve this problem? Scott Marcus -----Original Message----- From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com] Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 1:19 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem Thanks again, but I'm afraid that was not it either. The article you pointed out to me is about repositioning the various property sheet dialogs, not the actual MDE windows that tables and modules are displayed in. Good try though :-) Lambert > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael R Mattys [SMTP:michael.mattys at adelphia.net] > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 12:58 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > > My apologies, Lambert > I meant TDPopPropST, though that may not work either. > The article you may want to look up is Q200412 > > Mike Mattys > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Heenan, Lambert" > To: > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 12:34 PM > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > > > Hi Mike, > > > > Thanks for your reply, but unfortunately that was not the cure. I tried > > deleting the key, and then launched Access. No change. Nor did Access > > rebuild the key entry, but I'd saved it beforehand. The value in the key > was > > > > 1;403;687;937;983; > > > > So I tried changing some of those numbers, but nothing seemed to make > any > > difference. > > > > Lambert > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Michael R Mattys [SMTP:michael.mattys at adelphia.net] > > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 10:30 AM > > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > > > > > Lambert > > > > > > Not sure about your specific situation, but try going to > > > > > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ > > > Microsoft\Office\8.0\Access\Settings > > > > > > Delete FormPopPropST so that Access has to rebuild it. > > > It is the last saved position > > > > > > Mike Mattys > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Heenan, Lambert" > > > To: "Access-D Email (E-mail)" ; > "ACCESS-L > > > Email (E-mail)" > > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 10:13 AM > > > Subject: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > > > > > > > > > Cross posted to Access-D > > > > > > > > Here's one for all you Registry hackers out there. > > > > > > > > Whenever I open a table to take a look at the data, invariably the > > > window > > > > that opens is sized and positioned to that I cannot see the bottom > row > > > or > > > > two of data, and consequently I cannot see the navigation buttons at > the > > > > bottom either. I have to resize the window every time. Module > windows > > > > exhibit the same problem, though to a lesser degree. The window is > not > > > quite > > > > so oversized as a table window. > > > > > > > > Does anyone know how I can persuade Access (97) to use a different > > > window > > > > size/position for these objects. I've tried closing the MDE window > while > > > > holding down the Shift key, the Controls key etc. I've tried > selecting > > > > 'Save' from the file menu, but nothing seems to work. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Lambert > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Mon Apr 21 14:46:54 2003 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 15:46:54 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem Message-ID: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF40389772D@xlivmbx12.aig.com> All this is taking place within a maximized Access window (the IDE takes up the whole screen). Sure I could then maximize an individual table window and see all the navigation controls, but what I want to do is look at a table and a query (for example) at the same time. In that situation I always have to resize the table window. Lambert > -----Original Message----- > From: Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting) [SMTP:scott.marcus at ae.ge.com] > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 3:22 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > Can't you just maximize the given window to solve this problem? > > Scott Marcus > > -----Original Message----- > From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com] > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 1:19 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > > Thanks again, but I'm afraid that was not it either. The article you > pointed > out to me is about repositioning the various property sheet dialogs, not > the > actual MDE windows that tables and modules are displayed in. Good try > though > :-) > > Lambert > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Michael R Mattys [SMTP:michael.mattys at adelphia.net] > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 12:58 PM > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > > > > > My apologies, Lambert > > I meant TDPopPropST, though that may not work either. > > The article you may want to look up is Q200412 > > > > Mike Mattys > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Heenan, Lambert" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 12:34 PM > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > > > > > > Hi Mike, > > > > > > Thanks for your reply, but unfortunately that was not the cure. I > tried > > > deleting the key, and then launched Access. No change. Nor did Access > > > rebuild the key entry, but I'd saved it beforehand. The value in the > key > > was > > > > > > 1;403;687;937;983; > > > > > > So I tried changing some of those numbers, but nothing seemed to make > > any > > > difference. > > > > > > Lambert > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Michael R Mattys [SMTP:michael.mattys at adelphia.net] > > > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 10:30 AM > > > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > > > > > > > Lambert > > > > > > > > Not sure about your specific situation, but try going to > > > > > > > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ > > > > Microsoft\Office\8.0\Access\Settings > > > > > > > > Delete FormPopPropST so that Access has to rebuild it. > > > > It is the last saved position > > > > > > > > Mike Mattys > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Heenan, Lambert" > > > > To: "Access-D Email (E-mail)" ; > > "ACCESS-L > > > > Email (E-mail)" > > > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 10:13 AM > > > > Subject: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cross posted to Access-D > > > > > > > > > > Here's one for all you Registry hackers out there. > > > > > > > > > > Whenever I open a table to take a look at the data, invariably the > > > > window > > > > > that opens is sized and positioned to that I cannot see the bottom > > row > > > > or > > > > > two of data, and consequently I cannot see the navigation buttons > at > > the > > > > > bottom either. I have to resize the window every time. Module > > windows > > > > > exhibit the same problem, though to a lesser degree. The window is > > not > > > > quite > > > > > so oversized as a table window. > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know how I can persuade Access (97) to use a different > > > > window > > > > > size/position for these objects. I've tried closing the MDE window > > while > > > > > holding down the Shift key, the Controls key etc. I've tried > > selecting > > > > > 'Save' from the file menu, but nothing seems to work. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Lambert > > > _______________________________________________ > > > AccessD mailing list > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Mon Apr 21 14:47:56 2003 From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK (Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 20:47:56 +0100 (BST) Subject: [AccessD] Arthur - MYSQL In-Reply-To: <1050868030.3ea2f93e5082a@hosea.qub.ac.uk> References: <001001c305ae$6dcdd440$39360cd8@hargrove.internal><1050843203.3ea298430fe4e@hosea.qub.ac.uk> <006901c30748$52681b20$efe6ffcc@SusanOne> <001101c30771$01fa5df0$761118ac@D8TZHN0J> <1050868030.3ea2f93e5082a@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1050954476.3ea44aec5c806@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Arthur Change of plan I need the sql statement to find out which is the PK in MySQL something like SELECT * FROM databaseName.INFORMATION_SCHEMA.CONSTRAINT_COLUMN_USAGE Martin From wdhindman at bellsouth.net Mon Apr 21 14:48:47 2003 From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 15:48:47 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Are DAP's any good? References: <869379ABF177D4118D3100508B5EF87305B5BA4B@corp-es00> Message-ID: <00d601c3083f$0682e7b0$6101a8c0@amd2k512> Are DAP's any good?...if its on an intranet with all IE users, DAPs are a pretty easy way to go ...on the web they are problematic because they only work well in MS browsers ...HTH :) William Hindman "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: Hale, Jim To: ''Accessd (E-mail)' Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 12:02 PM Subject: [AccessD] Are DAP's any good? I am thinking of using DAP's for a web based input form. However, I see very little mention of them here. Are they one of those "features" that sound good on paper but are more trouble to implement then they are worth? I will be implementing the form on our intranet. All relevant users have office, albeit different versions. TIA for any experiences you wish to share. Jim hale ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From scott.marcus at ae.ge.com Mon Apr 21 14:51:57 2003 From: scott.marcus at ae.ge.com (Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting)) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 15:51:57 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem Message-ID: <768A0EA6FF8CB34FA522978966E5D52E559D79@bwam02msx.ae.ge.com> Try looking at the "Window|Tile Horizontally" or "Window|Tile Vertically" option. Scott Marcus -----Original Message----- From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com] Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 3:47 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem All this is taking place within a maximized Access window (the IDE takes up the whole screen). Sure I could then maximize an individual table window and see all the navigation controls, but what I want to do is look at a table and a query (for example) at the same time. In that situation I always have to resize the table window. Lambert > -----Original Message----- > From: Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting) [SMTP:scott.marcus at ae.ge.com] > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 3:22 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > Can't you just maximize the given window to solve this problem? > > Scott Marcus > > -----Original Message----- > From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com] > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 1:19 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > > Thanks again, but I'm afraid that was not it either. The article you > pointed > out to me is about repositioning the various property sheet dialogs, not > the > actual MDE windows that tables and modules are displayed in. Good try > though > :-) > > Lambert > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Michael R Mattys [SMTP:michael.mattys at adelphia.net] > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 12:58 PM > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > > > > > My apologies, Lambert > > I meant TDPopPropST, though that may not work either. > > The article you may want to look up is Q200412 > > > > Mike Mattys > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Heenan, Lambert" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 12:34 PM > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > > > > > > Hi Mike, > > > > > > Thanks for your reply, but unfortunately that was not the cure. I > tried > > > deleting the key, and then launched Access. No change. Nor did Access > > > rebuild the key entry, but I'd saved it beforehand. The value in the > key > > was > > > > > > 1;403;687;937;983; > > > > > > So I tried changing some of those numbers, but nothing seemed to make > > any > > > difference. > > > > > > Lambert > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Michael R Mattys [SMTP:michael.mattys at adelphia.net] > > > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 10:30 AM > > > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > > > > > > > Lambert > > > > > > > > Not sure about your specific situation, but try going to > > > > > > > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ > > > > Microsoft\Office\8.0\Access\Settings > > > > > > > > Delete FormPopPropST so that Access has to rebuild it. > > > > It is the last saved position > > > > > > > > Mike Mattys > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Heenan, Lambert" > > > > To: "Access-D Email (E-mail)" ; > > "ACCESS-L > > > > Email (E-mail)" > > > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 10:13 AM > > > > Subject: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cross posted to Access-D > > > > > > > > > > Here's one for all you Registry hackers out there. > > > > > > > > > > Whenever I open a table to take a look at the data, invariably the > > > > window > > > > > that opens is sized and positioned to that I cannot see the bottom > > row > > > > or > > > > > two of data, and consequently I cannot see the navigation buttons > at > > the > > > > > bottom either. I have to resize the window every time. Module > > windows > > > > > exhibit the same problem, though to a lesser degree. The window is > > not > > > > quite > > > > > so oversized as a table window. > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know how I can persuade Access (97) to use a different > > > > window > > > > > size/position for these objects. I've tried closing the MDE window > > while > > > > > holding down the Shift key, the Controls key etc. I've tried > > selecting > > > > > 'Save' from the file menu, but nothing seems to work. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Lambert > > > _______________________________________________ > > > AccessD mailing list > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From martyconnelly at shaw.ca Mon Apr 21 15:00:49 2003 From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 13:00:49 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey References: <1050945978.3ea429badc501@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3EA44DF1.6030602@shaw.ca> Lawyer's seem to like Office's support of digital rights management. When used with Microsoft Windows Server 2003, Office 2003 allows a document owner to restrict how a document or e-mail can be used by limiting others' ability to save, print, or forward it. And the ability to provide permissions to specific sections of a document using SharePoint Team Services makes it easier to allow for multiple edits, to simultaneously happen to the same document. But SharePoint doesn't seem to allow for a server license only per seat which makes it a bit restrictive and expensive for net use. Ahh but lawyers get excited about all sorts of things. I remember showing them how to put in a one by one pixel web bug to tell them who might be reading their word doc files. mwp.reid at queens-belfast.ac.uk wrote: >Not really was a joke. They do cause problems in multi version development >environments. > >Martin > >Quoting "Wortz, Charles" : > > > >>Martin, >> >>Are you saying that Signed Digital Security Certificates and Macro >>Security are both buggy? But then what is one to expect from a bunch >>of >>idiots that cannot ever get it through their pea-brains to always >>check >>for buffer overflow? Everyone at Microsoft, from Bill Gates on down, >>needs to have signs on top of their monitors that say "Check for >>buffer >>overflow!" >> >>Charles Wortz >>Software Development Division >>Texas Education Agency >>1701 N. Congress Ave >>Austin, TX 78701-1494 >>512-463-9493 >>CWortz at tea.state.tx.us >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK >>[mailto:Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK] >>Sent: Monday 2003 Apr 21 10:30 >>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey >> >> 5. List of bugs cleared by this version. >> >>None to very few. >> >> >>6. List of bugs introduced in this version. >> >>Signed Digital Security Certificates and Macro Security >> >> >>Martin >> >> >>>John >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of >>>>Wortz, Charles >>>>Sent: 21 April 2003 13:20 >>>>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >>>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey >>>> >>>> >>>>Martin, >>>> >>>>1. List of features that no longer work as in the previous >>>> >>>> >>version. >> >> >> >>>>2. List of features that still work but are no longer supported. >>>> >>>> >>3. >> >> >> >>>>List of new features. 4. List of reasons why for 1., 2., and 3. >>>> >>>>Charles Wortz >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK >>>>[mailto:Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK] >>>>Sent: Saturday 2003 Apr 19 04:48 >>>>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >>>>Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 - Survey >>>> >>>>Folks >>>> >>>>When a new version of Access is released by MS, what sort of >>>>information >>>>about >>>>the new version do you need to be available right away. >>>> >>>>This is a major opportunity to get what you want included in the >>>> >>>> >>>White >>> >>> >>>>Paper >>>>aimed at developers of Access solutions. >>>> >>>>I want to ensure that real world issues are covered i.e. give you >>>> >>>> >>>the >>> >>> >>>>sort of >>>>stuff you want as opposed to what some people think you need. >>>> >>>> >>>>Martin >>>> >>>> >>_______________________________________________ >>AccessD mailing list >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > From artful at rogers.com Mon Apr 21 15:04:20 2003 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 16:04:20 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Are DAP's any good? In-Reply-To: <004d01c30823$3f541b20$a2e6ffcc@SusanOne> Message-ID: <009501c30841$325cb9e0$8e01a8c0@Rock> Go with DreamWeaver. Forget about DAPs, they were some marketing guy's notion, not a developer's notion. "Hey, we could lock in the customer base using this technology!" Earth to MS. Later! "Hard to customize" -- SSH gets the understatement award of the year! A. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: April 21, 2003 12:30 PM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Are DAP's any good? Are DAP's any good?If you're going with a public site, they're not a good choice. You need IE to be fully interactive. If the client's not IE, the page may or may not work -- usually you can see the data, but the client might not be able to interact with it. Of course, if that doesn't matter... If it's an Intranet and you can control the environment, they're a nice shortcut if you won't need to custom them. They don't use VBA, so they're hard to customize. Susan H. I am thinking of using DAP's for a web based input form. However, I see very little mention of them here. Are they one of those "features" that sound good on paper but are more trouble to implement then they are worth? I will be implementing the form on our intranet. All relevant users have office, albeit different versions. TIA for any experiences you wish to share. Jim hale From DWUTKA at marlow.com Mon Apr 21 15:32:12 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 15:32:12 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Hidden form technques Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D82768@main2.marlow.com> I do the same with my AutoExecs. I don't use AutoKeys very often either, but the most common application when I do use them, is when I am hiding the Access Window. I set Ctrl-A to hide/unhide Access. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Stuart McLachlan [mailto:stuart at lexacorp.com.pg] Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 6:50 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Hidden form technques On 20 Apr 2003 at 22:26, Drew Wutka wrote: > I must say I am flabbergasted. Never used an AutoExec macro before? > You do know about AutoKeys right? Those are the only two macros I > ever use...unless it's a freak occurance. > I use Autoexec frequently. But only ever with a single Action: "RunCode". Then I stick all of my startup code in a Function. I've never come across a valid use for Autokeys. I stick with the WIMP interface and let my users do anything they need to do with a button click. But I do often use an ampersand in the Button caption so that they can use an Alt+letter keyboard shortcut to the button. -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Mon Apr 21 16:10:50 2003 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 17:10:50 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem Message-ID: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF403897731@xlivmbx12.aig.com> Thank you for your efforts on my part. I know about tiling the windows, but my question really is how to a change the default window size/position? If it is possible at all. One odd thing is that when I open a table (any table) I first of all see the empty MDE window, and it fits nicely inside the Access container window, for a second. Then the column headings and the nav buttons are added and the window resized so that the bottom two or three rows, plus the nav buttons are just below the edge of the window. It woud be real nice if I did not have to adjust the position everytime, or tile the windows everytime etc. I'd just like it to open us so I can see all four sides of the MDE window. Lambert > -----Original Message----- > From: Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting) [SMTP:scott.marcus at ae.ge.com] > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 3:52 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > Try looking at the "Window|Tile Horizontally" or "Window|Tile Vertically" > option. > > Scott Marcus > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com] > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 3:47 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > > All this is taking place within a maximized Access window (the IDE takes > up > the whole screen). Sure I could then maximize an individual table window > and > see all the navigation controls, but what I want to do is look at a table > and a query (for example) at the same time. In that situation I always > have > to resize the table window. > > Lambert > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting) > [SMTP:scott.marcus at ae.ge.com] > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 3:22 PM > > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > > > Can't you just maximize the given window to solve this problem? > > > > Scott Marcus > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com] > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 1:19 PM > > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > > > > > Thanks again, but I'm afraid that was not it either. The article you > > pointed > > out to me is about repositioning the various property sheet dialogs, not > > the > > actual MDE windows that tables and modules are displayed in. Good try > > though > > :-) > > > > Lambert > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Michael R Mattys [SMTP:michael.mattys at adelphia.net] > > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 12:58 PM > > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > > > > > > > > My apologies, Lambert > > > I meant TDPopPropST, though that may not work either. > > > The article you may want to look up is Q200412 > > > > > > Mike Mattys > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Heenan, Lambert" > > > To: > > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 12:34 PM > > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > > > > > > > > > Hi Mike, > > > > > > > > Thanks for your reply, but unfortunately that was not the cure. I > > tried > > > > deleting the key, and then launched Access. No change. Nor did > Access > > > > rebuild the key entry, but I'd saved it beforehand. The value in the > > key > > > was > > > > > > > > 1;403;687;937;983; > > > > > > > > So I tried changing some of those numbers, but nothing seemed to > make > > > any > > > > difference. > > > > > > > > Lambert > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Michael R Mattys [SMTP:michael.mattys at adelphia.net] > > > > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 10:30 AM > > > > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > > > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > > > > > > > > > Lambert > > > > > > > > > > Not sure about your specific situation, but try going to > > > > > > > > > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ > > > > > Microsoft\Office\8.0\Access\Settings > > > > > > > > > > Delete FormPopPropST so that Access has to rebuild it. > > > > > It is the last saved position > > > > > > > > > > Mike Mattys > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Heenan, Lambert" > > > > > To: "Access-D Email (E-mail)" ; > > > "ACCESS-L > > > > > Email (E-mail)" > > > > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 10:13 AM > > > > > Subject: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cross posted to Access-D > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's one for all you Registry hackers out there. > > > > > > > > > > > > Whenever I open a table to take a look at the data, invariably > the > > > > > window > > > > > > that opens is sized and positioned to that I cannot see the > bottom > > > row > > > > > or > > > > > > two of data, and consequently I cannot see the navigation > buttons > > at > > > the > > > > > > bottom either. I have to resize the window every time. Module > > > windows > > > > > > exhibit the same problem, though to a lesser degree. The window > is > > > not > > > > > quite > > > > > > so oversized as a table window. > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know how I can persuade Access (97) to use a > different > > > > > window > > > > > > size/position for these objects. I've tried closing the MDE > window > > > while > > > > > > holding down the Shift key, the Controls key etc. I've tried > > > selecting > > > > > > 'Save' from the file menu, but nothing seems to work. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > Lambert > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > AccessD mailing list > > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > AccessD mailing list > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From dwaters at usinternet.com Mon Apr 21 16:21:41 2003 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 16:21:41 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem In-Reply-To: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF403897731@xlivmbx12.aig.com> Message-ID: <001f01c3084c$03e48330$de1811d8@DanWaters> Lambert, This is very simplistic, but . . . Open the table and readjust to the size you want. Then add and remove a field comment or some other innocuous thing. Then push the save button to save the table. Then see if the table reopens at the new size you wanted. This works for queries, maybe it will work for tables. Dan Waters -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 3:11 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem Thank you for your efforts on my part. I know about tiling the windows, but my question really is how to a change the default window size/position? If it is possible at all. One odd thing is that when I open a table (any table) I first of all see the empty MDE window, and it fits nicely inside the Access container window, for a second. Then the column headings and the nav buttons are added and the window resized so that the bottom two or three rows, plus the nav buttons are just below the edge of the window. It woud be real nice if I did not have to adjust the position everytime, or tile the windows everytime etc. I'd just like it to open us so I can see all four sides of the MDE window. Lambert > -----Original Message----- > From: Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting) [SMTP:scott.marcus at ae.ge.com] > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 3:52 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > Try looking at the "Window|Tile Horizontally" or "Window|Tile > Vertically" option. > > Scott Marcus > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com] > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 3:47 PM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > > All this is taking place within a maximized Access window (the IDE > takes up the whole screen). Sure I could then maximize an individual > table window and > see all the navigation controls, but what I want to do is look at a table > and a query (for example) at the same time. In that situation I always > have > to resize the table window. > > Lambert > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting) > [SMTP:scott.marcus at ae.ge.com] > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 3:22 PM > > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > > > Can't you just maximize the given window to solve this problem? > > > > Scott Marcus > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com] > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 1:19 PM > > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > > > > > Thanks again, but I'm afraid that was not it either. The article you > > pointed out to me is about repositioning the various property sheet > > dialogs, not the > > actual MDE windows that tables and modules are displayed in. Good try > > though > > :-) > > > > Lambert > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Michael R Mattys [SMTP:michael.mattys at adelphia.net] > > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 12:58 PM > > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > > > > > > > > My apologies, Lambert > > > I meant TDPopPropST, though that may not work either. > > > The article you may want to look up is Q200412 > > > > > > Mike Mattys > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Heenan, Lambert" > > > To: > > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 12:34 PM > > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > > > > > > > > > Hi Mike, > > > > > > > > Thanks for your reply, but unfortunately that was not the cure. > > > > I > > tried > > > > deleting the key, and then launched Access. No change. Nor did > Access > > > > rebuild the key entry, but I'd saved it beforehand. The value in > > > > the > > key > > > was > > > > > > > > 1;403;687;937;983; > > > > > > > > So I tried changing some of those numbers, but nothing seemed to > make > > > any > > > > difference. > > > > > > > > Lambert > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Michael R Mattys [SMTP:michael.mattys at adelphia.net] > > > > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 10:30 AM > > > > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > > > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > > > > > > > > > Lambert > > > > > > > > > > Not sure about your specific situation, but try going to > > > > > > > > > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ > > > > > Microsoft\Office\8.0\Access\Settings > > > > > > > > > > Delete FormPopPropST so that Access has to rebuild it. It is > > > > > the last saved position > > > > > > > > > > Mike Mattys > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Heenan, Lambert" > > > > > To: "Access-D Email (E-mail)" ; > > > "ACCESS-L > > > > > Email (E-mail)" > > > > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 10:13 AM > > > > > Subject: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cross posted to Access-D > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's one for all you Registry hackers out there. > > > > > > > > > > > > Whenever I open a table to take a look at the data, > > > > > > invariably > the > > > > > window > > > > > > that opens is sized and positioned to that I cannot see the > bottom > > > row > > > > > or > > > > > > two of data, and consequently I cannot see the navigation > buttons > > at > > > the > > > > > > bottom either. I have to resize the window every time. > > > > > > Module > > > windows > > > > > > exhibit the same problem, though to a lesser degree. The > > > > > > window > is > > > not > > > > > quite > > > > > > so oversized as a table window. > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know how I can persuade Access (97) to use a > different > > > > > window > > > > > > size/position for these objects. I've tried closing the MDE > window > > > while > > > > > > holding down the Shift key, the Controls key etc. I've tried > > > selecting > > > > > > 'Save' from the file menu, but nothing seems to work. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > Lambert > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > AccessD mailing list > > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > AccessD mailing list > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From kathryn at bassett.net Mon Apr 21 16:43:08 2003 From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 14:43:08 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] pictures in a database In-Reply-To: <353A32F9B331D411BB8F00A0C9FC503701294B43@NT04> Message-ID: Fortunately, the pictures are already made (http://www.muir63.org/ - click on a letter, then a Hoofbeats picture). And another thing Stuart did was make a button so that all I have to do it click on it, and select the picture graphic and the path is imputted to the table. Pretty neat! I'll be able to link them all in a couple hours. -- Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA) Keeper of the Muir 1963 database webmaster at muir63.org http://muir63.org kathryn at bassett.net http://bassett.net > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson > Sent: 21 Apr 2003 5:57:AM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] pictures in a database > > > > When I had to link several pictures to a pictorial directory, I used the > first name and last name (without spaces of course) as the picture name. My > source for the object for the picture was actually created as the record was > displayed. That way, a picture field is not needed in the table. When a > picture was identified, it was renamed and then became available immediately > for the directory. > Good luck - 800 is a lot of pictures! > > Jim From mmmtbig at bellsouth.net Mon Apr 21 18:04:20 2003 From: mmmtbig at bellsouth.net (Myke Myers) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 19:04:20 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Union Query WHERE Bug? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001f01c3085a$59b5a060$6501a8c0@tbig3> Solution: After I changed the query from 'UNION' to 'UNION ALL' the filter works!!! I don't know if this is a quirk in my application or Access -- or maybe the UNION ALL ensures a unique record. :-) Thanks for inspiring me to continue to hunt for the answer. Sometimes I have to sleep on a problem to get the solution. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of StaRKeY Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 3:07 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Union Query WHERE Bug? If it contains chars and you are sure the value is all you need then you could also try the following: ....WHERE Val(RepNum) = 8222 If that also doesn't work I'd like to see your data and query(s) myself:-) Regards, Eric S. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Myke Myers Sent: zaterdag 19 april 2003 06:22 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Union Query WHERE Bug? I trimmed the RepNum field in both the Select queries used in the Union query. I can 'Filter By Selection' in either of the Select queries. But when I try the same 'Filter By Selection' in the Union query, it returns no records. I found others with the same trouble in Google Groups. (Seached on 'Filter By Selection' and 'union query'.) Very strange. Susan and Jim: Thanks for your suggestions. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence (AccessD) Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:05 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Union Query WHERE Bug? Hi Myke: The only reason is because the field with the number string has a space or another invisible character in the field. the 'like' operand will return any string with '8222' any where in it. If the field was five characters in size it could return three possiblities of '8222 ' or ' 8222' or '8222'. WHERE (((quniCEIncompleteCredits.RepNum) Like "8222")); you could try, to remove spaces: WHERE (((trim(quniCEIncompleteCredits.RepNum))="8222")); HTH JIm -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Myke Myers Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 12:53 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Union Query WHERE Bug? Can anyone explain why this query returns one record, as it should... SELECT quniCEIncompleteCredits.* FROM quniCEIncompleteCredits WHERE (((quniCEIncompleteCredits.RepNum) Like "8222")); And this query returns no records?. SELECT quniCEIncompleteCredits.* FROM quniCEIncompleteCredits WHERE (((quniCEIncompleteCredits.RepNum)="8222")); Using Access 2000. 'quniCEIncompleteCredits' is a union query. TIA, Myke The Better Information Group _____ avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 17-4-2003 Tested on: 19-4-2003 9:06:53 avast! is copyright (c) 2000-2003 ALWIL Software. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From artful at rogers.com Mon Apr 21 18:45:34 2003 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 19:45:34 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Union Query WHERE Bug? In-Reply-To: <001f01c3085a$59b5a060$6501a8c0@tbig3> Message-ID: <00d901c30860$1a6c1780$8e01a8c0@Rock> Sleep is a good thing. About two weeks ago I woke up in the middle of the night and solved a SQL-DMO problem I had. While awake I could see the solution, but asleep it came to me. The hardest part of this is that your lover(s) would prefer that you're thinking about other lover(s) rather than code. My first wife once phoned me at the office at 3:30am and I answered on the first ring and she said, "It would be a lot easier to lose you to another woman, but a BOX? Do you know how that makes me feel?" She left me about a month later, but that's another story :-) -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Myke Myers Sent: April 21, 2003 7:04 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Union Query WHERE Bug? Solution: After I changed the query from 'UNION' to 'UNION ALL' the filter works!!! I don't know if this is a quirk in my application or Access -- or maybe the UNION ALL ensures a unique record. :-) Thanks for inspiring me to continue to hunt for the answer. Sometimes I have to sleep on a problem to get the solution. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From harkins at iglou.com Mon Apr 21 19:19:24 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 20:19:24 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] referencing a library -- just once Message-ID: <026201c30864$e80fd790$a2e6ffcc@SusanOne> I'm working with a utility form that I'd like to use in any db, but I have to remember to reference a particular library. That's fine, I just reference it if I forget to do so when I import the form, but sure would be easier if I could reference the library somehow -- just once from the form itself and not have to remember. I could add it to one of the sub's but that's redundant. Susan H. From harkins at iglou.com Mon Apr 21 19:51:43 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 20:51:43 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] sorting a list Message-ID: <000701c30869$59265ae0$d4e6ffcc@SusanOne> Anyone have an easy way to sort a list or combo control's list when working with a Value List RowSourceType? Susan H. From harkins at iglou.com Mon Apr 21 19:52:11 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 20:52:11 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] referencing a library -- just once References: <026201c30864$e80fd790$a2e6ffcc@SusanOne> Message-ID: <002101c30869$b2a8c8a0$d4e6ffcc@SusanOne> Nevermind. :) Susan H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Harkins" To: Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 8:19 PM Subject: [AccessD] referencing a library -- just once > I'm working with a utility form that I'd like to use in any db, but I have > to remember to reference a particular library. That's fine, I just reference > it if I forget to do so when I import the form, but sure would be easier if > I could reference the library somehow -- just once from the form itself and > not have to remember. I could add it to one of the sub's but that's > redundant. > > Susan H. > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From harkins at iglou.com Mon Apr 21 19:54:11 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 20:54:11 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Union Query WHERE Bug? References: <001f01c3085a$59b5a060$6501a8c0@tbig3> Message-ID: <002201c30869$b38b3960$d4e6ffcc@SusanOne> MessageUNION ALL forces all records to the results. Susan H. Solution: After I changed the query from 'UNION' to 'UNION ALL' the filter works!!! I don't know if this is a quirk in my application or Access -- or maybe the UNION ALL ensures a unique record. :-) Thanks for inspiring me to continue to hunt for the answer. Sometimes I have to sleep on a problem to get the solution. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From DWUTKA at marlow.com Mon Apr 21 19:57:09 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 19:57:09 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] sorting a list Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D827C6@main2.marlow.com> I'd say the easiest way is to switch it to a query, put the 'list' in a table, and have the query sort it! If you must stick with a list, use split to put it into array, then dump it into a collection (or just resort the array). Then rebuild the string. Of course I think this is a long way of doing things! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 7:52 PM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] sorting a list Anyone have an easy way to sort a list or combo control's list when working with a Value List RowSourceType? Susan H. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From harkins at iglou.com Mon Apr 21 20:03:04 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 21:03:04 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] sorting a list References: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D827C6@main2.marlow.com> Message-ID: <003b01c3086a$ef1d0d40$d4e6ffcc@SusanOne> Can't use a query -- I'm using a For Each to loop through a collection to get the list. I thought about filling a table with the list, but that seems worst than sorting an array. Wonder which would be quicker? Susan H. > I'd say the easiest way is to switch it to a query, put the 'list' in a > table, and have the query sort it! > > If you must stick with a list, use split to put it into array, then dump it > into a collection (or just resort the array). Then rebuild the string. Of > course I think this is a long way of doing things! > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 7:52 PM > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] sorting a list > > > Anyone have an easy way to sort a list or combo control's list when working > with a Value List RowSourceType? > > Susan H. > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From DWUTKA at marlow.com Mon Apr 21 20:17:32 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 20:17:32 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] sorting a list Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D827C7@main2.marlow.com> If the data is already in a collection, you sure can sort it with a query. Build a query that pulls the data from a collection. I posted an example of how to do this before. Here's the basics. Build a function that retrieves the data from the collection by it's index. Then build a simple table with a number field. Build a function that retrieves the count of the collection. Have 2 fields in the query, the first field is the field from the number field table. Put the Collection count as the criteria (<=). Have that function not only return the count of the collection, but have it check the size of the collection against the highest value in that table. If the table has less 'numbers' then the collection, add enough records (with consecutive numbers) to bring it up to par. Then have the second field in the query return the value from the collection based on the index retrieved from the number table. Then hide the first field and sort the second. Whalla! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 8:03 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] sorting a list Can't use a query -- I'm using a For Each to loop through a collection to get the list. I thought about filling a table with the list, but that seems worst than sorting an array. Wonder which would be quicker? Susan H. > I'd say the easiest way is to switch it to a query, put the 'list' in a > table, and have the query sort it! > > If you must stick with a list, use split to put it into array, then dump it > into a collection (or just resort the array). Then rebuild the string. Of > course I think this is a long way of doing things! > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 7:52 PM > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] sorting a list > > > Anyone have an easy way to sort a list or combo control's list when working > with a Value List RowSourceType? > > Susan H. > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From harkins at iglou.com Mon Apr 21 20:54:56 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 21:54:56 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] sorting a list References: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D827C7@main2.marlow.com> Message-ID: <007f01c30872$2e0b91f0$d4e6ffcc@SusanOne> Well, this was my thought too -- but I'm not sure you need to do all that work Drew -- at least not for what I'm doing. The list will always change -- so I'd just be dumping the collection straight into a table -- it wouldn't even matter if there were no objects in the collection and the collection were empty. So, you think that would be faster than an array? I'm not sure how to sort an array -- is there a property? Susan H. > If the data is already in a collection, you sure can sort it with a query. > Build a query that pulls the data from a collection. I posted an example of > how to do this before. Here's the basics. Build a function that retrieves > the data from the collection by it's index. Then build a simple table with > a number field. Build a function that retrieves the count of the > collection. Have 2 fields in the query, the first field is the field from > the number field table. Put the Collection count as the criteria (<=). > Have that function not only return the count of the collection, but have it > check the size of the collection against the highest value in that table. > If the table has less 'numbers' then the collection, add enough records > (with consecutive numbers) to bring it up to par. Then have the second > field in the query return the value from the collection based on the index > retrieved from the number table. Then hide the first field and sort the > second. Whalla! > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 8:03 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] sorting a list > > > Can't use a query -- I'm using a For Each to loop through a collection to > get the list. I thought about filling a table with the list, but that seems > worst than sorting an array. Wonder which would be quicker? > > Susan H. > > > > I'd say the easiest way is to switch it to a query, put the 'list' in a > > table, and have the query sort it! > > > > If you must stick with a list, use split to put it into array, then dump > it > > into a collection (or just resort the array). Then rebuild the string. > Of > > course I think this is a long way of doing things! > > > > Drew > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 7:52 PM > > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: [AccessD] sorting a list > > > > > > Anyone have an easy way to sort a list or combo control's list when > working > > with a Value List RowSourceType? > > > > Susan H. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Mon Apr 21 21:51:56 2003 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:51:56 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] sorting a list In-Reply-To: <000701c30869$59265ae0$d4e6ffcc@SusanOne> Message-ID: <3EA53AEC.20752.E3AEE5@localhost> On 21 Apr 2003 at 20:51, Susan Harkins wrote: > Anyone have an easy way to sort a list or combo control's list when > working with a Value List RowSourceType? > Assuming you are using A2K with it's Split and Join functions: Option Compare Database Private Sub btnSortList_Click() Dim strTempArray() As String 'create the array and 'Put a dummy space in element 0 of array strTempArray() = Split(" ;" & List0.RowSource, ";") 'sort the array Call Quicksort(strTempArray) 'Don't forget to strip element 0 again List0.RowSource = Mid$(Join(strTempArray(), ";"), 3) End Sub Sub Quicksort(X$()) 'quicksort sort of string array x$() ' VERY old QBasic code ' - but I've never needed to update it 'Note: Sorts elements X$(1) to UBound(X$) ' That's why we've padded the above Split with an initial element n% = UBound(X$) m% = 12 ReDim stack%(m%, 2) s% = 1 stack%(1, 1) = 1: stack%(1, 2) = n% spopstack: l% = stack%(s%, 1): r% = stack%(s%, 2): s% = s% - 1 sdividelr: i% = l%: j% = r%: a$ = X$(Int((l% + r%) / 2)) sscanr: If X$(i%) < a$ Then i% = i% + 1: GoTo sscanr sscanl: If X$(j%) > a$ Then j% = j% - 1: GoTo sscanl If i% > j% Then GoTo snextpart w$ = X$(i%): X$(i%) = X$(j%): X$(j%) = w$ i% = i% + 1: j% = j% - 1 If i% > j% Then GoTo snextpart GoTo sscanr snextpart: If j% - l% < r% - i% And i% < r% Then s% = s% + 1: stack%(s%, 1) = i%: stack%(s%, 2) = r% If j% - l% >= r% - i% And l% < j% Then s% = s% + 1: stack%(s%, 1) = l%: stack%(s%, 2) = j% If j% - l% < r% - i% Then r% = j% Else l% = i% If l% >= r% Then GoTo sexitloop GoTo sdividelr sexitloop: If s% = 0 Then Exit Sub GoTo spopstack End Sub -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. From DWUTKA at marlow.com Mon Apr 21 22:31:19 2003 From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 22:31:19 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] sorting a list Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF801D827C9@main2.marlow.com> There is no 'native' way to sort a collection or an array. However, it is much easier to sort a collection, since filling a collection allows you to put an item before or after another. This allows you to 'browse' the collection, then place the new item in the right place. With an array, you have to 'rebuild' the array each time, to do this. Code wise, you can definitely sort an array, or a collection, and be done with it. If you go that route, why use a value list, instead of having the combo bound to a function? My solution would allow Jet to do the sorting for you. Also, it isn't creating and destroying temp tables. It uses one table, that only gets bigger when necessary, but remain constant otherwise. Either way, it's going to be a pain one way or the other! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 8:55 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] sorting a list Well, this was my thought too -- but I'm not sure you need to do all that work Drew -- at least not for what I'm doing. The list will always change -- so I'd just be dumping the collection straight into a table -- it wouldn't even matter if there were no objects in the collection and the collection were empty. So, you think that would be faster than an array? I'm not sure how to sort an array -- is there a property? Susan H. > If the data is already in a collection, you sure can sort it with a query. > Build a query that pulls the data from a collection. I posted an example of > how to do this before. Here's the basics. Build a function that retrieves > the data from the collection by it's index. Then build a simple table with > a number field. Build a function that retrieves the count of the > collection. Have 2 fields in the query, the first field is the field from > the number field table. Put the Collection count as the criteria (<=). > Have that function not only return the count of the collection, but have it > check the size of the collection against the highest value in that table. > If the table has less 'numbers' then the collection, add enough records > (with consecutive numbers) to bring it up to par. Then have the second > field in the query return the value from the collection based on the index > retrieved from the number table. Then hide the first field and sort the > second. Whalla! > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 8:03 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] sorting a list > > > Can't use a query -- I'm using a For Each to loop through a collection to > get the list. I thought about filling a table with the list, but that seems > worst than sorting an array. Wonder which would be quicker? > > Susan H. > > > > I'd say the easiest way is to switch it to a query, put the 'list' in a > > table, and have the query sort it! > > > > If you must stick with a list, use split to put it into array, then dump > it > > into a collection (or just resort the array). Then rebuild the string. > Of > > course I think this is a long way of doing things! > > > > Drew > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 7:52 PM > > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: [AccessD] sorting a list > > > > > > Anyone have an easy way to sort a list or combo control's list when > working > > with a Value List RowSourceType? > > > > Susan H. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From thevigil at kabelfoon.nl Tue Apr 22 02:44:04 2003 From: thevigil at kabelfoon.nl (Bert-Jan Brinkhuis) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 09:44:04 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Arthur - MYSQL References: <001001c305ae$6dcdd440$39360cd8@hargrove.internal><1050843203.3ea298430fe4e@hosea.qub.ac.uk><006901c30748$52681b20$efe6ffcc@SusanOne><001101c30771$01fa5df0$761118ac@D8TZHN0J><1050868030.3ea2f93e5082a@hosea.qub.ac.uk> <1050954476.3ea44aec5c806@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <006001c308a2$fbdd14c0$115b2d3e@jester> All i know is from the SQL prompt: show fields from yourtablename And using PHP: $query = "select * from yourtablename"; $result = mysql_query($query); itterate trough the result and with mysql_field_flags($result, number) you can see which column is the primary key. HTH Bert-Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 9:47 PM Subject: [AccessD] Arthur - MYSQL > Arthur > > Change of plan > > I need the sql statement to find out which is the PK in MySQL something like > > SELECT * FROM > databaseName.INFORMATION_SCHEMA.CONSTRAINT_COLUMN_USAGE > > Martin > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From dajomigo at tpg.com.au Tue Apr 22 03:33:56 2003 From: dajomigo at tpg.com.au (David & Joanne Gould) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 18:33:56 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] NotInList Problem Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030422183042.01cf12c0@mail.tpg.com.au> I am trying to add a new record into a table when the user types an entry into a combo box that triggers the NotInList event. My problem is trying to use the text that was typed in. How do I find it prgramatically? The table only has two fields: Autonumber (PK) and a descriptive text field. TIA David From scott.marcus at ae.ge.com Tue Apr 22 05:18:04 2003 From: scott.marcus at ae.ge.com (Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting)) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 06:18:04 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem Message-ID: <768A0EA6FF8CB34FA522978966E5D52E559D7A@bwam02msx.ae.ge.com> I think that this will work in the MDB but he is using an MDE (might still work). Scott Marcus -----Original Message----- From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com] Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 5:22 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem Lambert, This is very simplistic, but . . . Open the table and readjust to the size you want. Then add and remove a field comment or some other innocuous thing. Then push the save button to save the table. Then see if the table reopens at the new size you wanted. This works for queries, maybe it will work for tables. Dan Waters From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Tue Apr 22 06:26:06 2003 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:26:06 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] NotInList Problem Message-ID: <20030422102603.DB0E11D67EB@mrburns.nildram.co.uk> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Tue Apr 22 05:27:36 2003 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 20:27:36 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] NotInList Problem In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20030422183042.01cf12c0@mail.tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <3EA5A5B8.5635.284DF1B@localhost> On 22 Apr 2003 at 18:33, David & Joanne Gould wrote: > I am trying to add a new record into a table when the user types an > entry into a combo box that triggers the NotInList event. My problem > is trying to use the text that was typed in. How do I find it > prgramatically? > > The table only has two fields: Autonumber (PK) and a descriptive text > field. > Look at the NotInList Event: Private Sub Combo0_NotInList(NewData As String, Response As Integer) NewData contains the newly entered string. Response is a flag which defines how the event is handled after your code has been executed in the Sub. Just insert NewData into the table and set Response to acDataErrAdded -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. From j.frederick at att.net Tue Apr 22 05:45:14 2003 From: j.frederick at att.net (John Frederick) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 06:45:14 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Arthur - MYSQL In-Reply-To: <006001c308a2$fbdd14c0$115b2d3e@jester> Message-ID: I'm suprised to hear of MySQL buffs on this forum. I'm just looking at it and PHP. I have apache, MySQL, MySQL Control Center, and PHP running on a W2k Prof platform. Control Center looks like an imitation of SQL Server Enterprise Manager. Are there ODBC or OLEDB drivers for MySQL that would enable an Access FE and a MySQL BE? Are there web forums(or fora?) for MySQL? -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Bert-Jan Brinkhuis Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 3:44 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Arthur - MYSQL All i know is from the SQL prompt: show fields from yourtablename And using PHP: $query = "select * from yourtablename"; $result = mysql_query($query); itterate trough the result and with mysql_field_flags($result, number) you can see which column is the primary key. HTH Bert-Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 9:47 PM Subject: [AccessD] Arthur - MYSQL > Arthur > > Change of plan > > I need the sql statement to find out which is the PK in MySQL something like > > SELECT * FROM > databaseName.INFORMATION_SCHEMA.CONSTRAINT_COLUMN_USAGE > > Martin > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From pedro at plex.nl Tue Apr 22 06:00:38 2003 From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:00:38 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] select distinct per year References: <003e01c307fb$6cf2e7f0$8e01a8c0@Rock> Message-ID: <005d01c308bf$8890e9c0$fdc581d5@pedro> MessageThanks to all who helped with this sql. Pedro Janssen ----- Original Message ----- From: Arthur Fuller To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 1:44 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] select distinct per year In SQL the query is: select datepart(yyyy,dateentered), sum(num1), sum(num2) from TableA group by datepart(yyyy,dateentered) In Access, substitute the year() function for datepart(). Arthur -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen Sent: April 21, 2003 6:51 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] select distinct per year Hi Susan, i thought this could be done with a select distinct, but i wasn't sure This what i have TableA Date num1 num2 01-02-2000 5,2 4,1 02-03-2000 4,6 4,3 01-04-2001 4,2 6,5 14-07-2001 6,2 3,1 This is what i want; in this example the calculation is sum Date num1 num2 2000 9,8 8,4 2001 10,4 9,6 Pedro Janssen ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pedro at plex.nl Tue Apr 22 06:07:42 2003 From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:07:42 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] 10 days before Message-ID: <005e01c308bf$8a800f90$fdc581d5@pedro> Hello Group, i have two tables Tablea has 1 field with dates (1 date per year) and TableB has 1 date field (1 record per date from all dates between 1950 and 2002) and 10 number fields. What i need is from all the dates that are present in TableA, all the records from TableB for 10 days back. TIA Pedro Janssen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From artful at rogers.com Tue Apr 22 06:23:47 2003 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 07:23:47 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Arthur - MYSQL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <013101c308c1$a4989800$8e01a8c0@Rock> There's not a lot involved in setting up an Access FE to work with MySQL. However, most of the tools that can import the data cannot import the indexes. One that does however is dbScripter, which costs around $39 US (I forget exactly, I bought it a couple of years back). You'll need MyODBC, which you can download from the MySQL site. And finally, there's an issue with ANPKs and MyODBC, so it's good practice to add a TimeStamp column to every table in Access before you move the data. (In the absence of this column, a new row says #deleted# in every column. The data is actually there, but can't be seen without a refresh. Put a TimeStamp column in and the problem disappears.) Arthur -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Frederick Sent: April 22, 2003 6:45 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Arthur - MYSQL I'm suprised to hear of MySQL buffs on this forum. I'm just looking at it and PHP. I have apache, MySQL, MySQL Control Center, and PHP running on a W2k Prof platform. Control Center looks like an imitation of SQL Server Enterprise Manager. Are there ODBC or OLEDB drivers for MySQL that would enable an Access FE and a MySQL BE? Are there web forums(or fora?) for MySQL? -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Bert-Jan Brinkhuis Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 3:44 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Arthur - MYSQL All i know is from the SQL prompt: show fields from yourtablename And using PHP: $query = "select * from yourtablename"; $result = mysql_query($query); itterate trough the result and with mysql_field_flags($result, number) you can see which column is the primary key. HTH Bert-Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 9:47 PM Subject: [AccessD] Arthur - MYSQL > Arthur > > Change of plan > > I need the sql statement to find out which is the PK in MySQL > something like > > SELECT * FROM databaseName.INFORMATION_SCHEMA.CONSTRAINT_COLUMN_USAGE > > Martin > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From artful at rogers.com Tue Apr 22 06:58:06 2003 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 07:58:06 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT ASP and MYSQL In-Reply-To: <1050939305.3ea40fa9d3d65@hosea.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <013701c308c6$6fb29ff0$8e01a8c0@Rock> SHOW CREATE TABLE tbl_name; SHOW INDEX | KEYS FROM tbl_name [FROM db_name]; (Note, not show indexes or show key). A. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mwp.Reid at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Sent: April 21, 2003 11:35 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT ASP and MYSQL Hi Arthur Just find out which of columns 1 - x is the PK column. If you can tell me how to find the PK type generally I can work out how to do it with .NET Simply want to test a table and ID the PK column. Martin From artful at rogers.com Tue Apr 22 07:23:08 2003 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 08:23:08 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] 10 days before In-Reply-To: <005e01c308bf$8a800f90$fdc581d5@pedro> Message-ID: <013d01c308c9$eeb9f980$8e01a8c0@Rock> What exactly do the dates in TableA look like? Are they all the same day and month, or could they be anything? There's something odd about the way this is modeled, methinks. A. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen Sent: April 22, 2003 7:08 AM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] 10 days before Hello Group, i have two tables Tablea has 1 field with dates (1 date per year) and TableB has 1 date field (1 record per date from all dates between 1950 and 2002) and 10 number fields. What i need is from all the dates that are present in TableA, all the records from TableB for 10 days back. TIA Pedro Janssen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Tue Apr 22 07:38:57 2003 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 22:38:57 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] 10 days before In-Reply-To: <005e01c308bf$8a800f90$fdc581d5@pedro> Message-ID: <3EA5C481.15412.2FD1FCE@localhost> On 22 Apr 2003 at 13:07, Pedro Janssen wrote: > Hello Group, > > i have two tables > Tablea has 1 field with dates (1 date per year) > and TableB has 1 date field (1 record per date from all dates between > 1950 and 2002) and 10 number fields. > > What i need is from all the dates that are present in TableA, all the > records from TableB for 10 days back. > Here's one way - Assume TableA contains a Date field called AnnualDate Assume TableB contains a Date Field called EDate and a bunch of Number fields. 1. Create a temporary table (tblTemp) containing just one Date field (AnnualDate) 2. Create a function to populate tblTemp with the desired dates: Function MakeDates() Dim rs As DAO.Recordset Dim rs2 As DAO.Recordset DoCmd.RunSQL "Delete * from tblTemp" Set rs = CurrentDb.openrecordset("TableA") Set rs2 = CurrentDb.openrecordset("tblTemp") While Not rs.EOF For loopcount = 0 To 9 rs2.AddNew rs2!AnnualDate = rs!AnnualDate - loopcount rs2.Update Next rs.MoveNext Wend End Function Call this function then: 2. Use a query: SELECT TableB.* FROM tblTemp INNER JOIN TableB ON tblTemp.AnnualDate = TableB.EDate; -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. From bheid at appdevgrp.com Tue Apr 22 07:46:50 2003 From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 08:46:50 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] sorting a list Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA3033305C@ADGSERVER> Hi Susan, For an array, if it is a small list, just use a simple Bubble sort (less than 50 or so). Otherwise, a QuickSort is probably your best bet. I can give you the algorithm for these if you need them. Bobby -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 9:55 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] sorting a list Well, this was my thought too -- but I'm not sure you need to do all that work Drew -- at least not for what I'm doing. The list will always change -- so I'd just be dumping the collection straight into a table -- it wouldn't even matter if there were no objects in the collection and the collection were empty. So, you think that would be faster than an array? I'm not sure how to sort an array -- is there a property? Susan H. > If the data is already in a collection, you sure can sort it with a query. > Build a query that pulls the data from a collection. I posted an example of > how to do this before. Here's the basics. Build a function that retrieves > the data from the collection by it's index. Then build a simple table with > a number field. Build a function that retrieves the count of the > collection. Have 2 fields in the query, the first field is the field from > the number field table. Put the Collection count as the criteria (<=). > Have that function not only return the count of the collection, but have it > check the size of the collection against the highest value in that table. > If the table has less 'numbers' then the collection, add enough records > (with consecutive numbers) to bring it up to par. Then have the second > field in the query return the value from the collection based on the index > retrieved from the number table. Then hide the first field and sort the > second. Whalla! > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 8:03 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] sorting a list > > > Can't use a query -- I'm using a For Each to loop through a collection to > get the list. I thought about filling a table with the list, but that seems > worst than sorting an array. Wonder which would be quicker? > > Susan H. > > > > I'd say the easiest way is to switch it to a query, put the 'list' in a > > table, and have the query sort it! > > > > If you must stick with a list, use split to put it into array, then dump > it > > into a collection (or just resort the array). Then rebuild the string. > Of > > course I think this is a long way of doing things! > > > > Drew > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 7:52 PM > > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: [AccessD] sorting a list > > > > > > Anyone have an easy way to sort a list or combo control's list when > working > > with a Value List RowSourceType? > > > > Susan H. > > From j.frederick at att.net Tue Apr 22 08:01:31 2003 From: j.frederick at att.net (John Frederick) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 09:01:31 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] NotInList Problem In-Reply-To: <3EA5A5B8.5635.284DF1B@localhost> Message-ID: This is one of those problems that calls for a standard reusable solution, but gets resolved over and over. Stuart's solution works if the single value from the combo box is all you need to create a new record. In the more general case, when more data is needed, you pop up a form and when the form is closed and control returns to the NotInList event code, requery the combo box. Alternatively, if the combo box is bound to the AutoNumber field in the RecordSource, you could open a recordset, Add a blank record, read out the new AutoNumber after the AddNew, save it, call the form and after the form closes, plug the saved AutoNumber into the combo box to set it to the new record without another search. All the Getz/Litwin/etc. books have sample code. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 6:28 AM To: David & Joanne Gould; accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] NotInList Problem On 22 Apr 2003 at 18:33, David & Joanne Gould wrote: > I am trying to add a new record into a table when the user types an > entry into a combo box that triggers the NotInList event. My problem > is trying to use the text that was typed in. How do I find it > prgramatically? > > The table only has two fields: Autonumber (PK) and a descriptive text > field. > Look at the NotInList Event: Private Sub Combo0_NotInList(NewData As String, Response As Integer) NewData contains the newly entered string. Response is a flag which defines how the event is handled after your code has been executed in the Sub. Just insert NewData into the table and set Response to acDataErrAdded -- Lexacorp Ltd http://www.lexacorp.com.pg Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From carbonnb at sympatico.ca Tue Apr 22 08:03:09 2003 From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 09:03:09 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Arthur - MYSQL In-Reply-To: References: <006001c308a2$fbdd14c0$115b2d3e@jester> Message-ID: <3EA5054D.29464.47A772@localhost> On 22 Apr 2003 at 6:45, John Frederick wrote: > I'm suprised to hear of MySQL buffs on this forum. I'm just looking > at it and PHP. I have apache, MySQL, MySQL Control Center, and PHP > running on a W2k Prof platform. Control Center looks like an > imitation of SQL Server Enterprise Manager. Are there ODBC or OLEDB > drivers for MySQL that would enable an Access FE and a MySQL BE? Are > there web forums(or fora?) for MySQL? You can get the MySQL ODBC drivers (MyODBC) from http://www.mysql.com/downloads/api-myodbc.html There are no web forums that I know of, but there are quite active mailing lists. Have a look at: http://www.mysql.com/documentation/lists.php for the list. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca (SELECT * FROM users WHERE clue > 0) (DELETE * FROM users WHERE clue < 0) From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Tue Apr 22 08:26:55 2003 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 09:26:55 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem Message-ID: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF403897732@xlivmbx12.aig.com> Thanks for that. I really thought we were on to something there, as Access does ask you if you want to save the layout when you change the column widths, but no go ;-( The column width changes are saved, but not the MDI window size and position, unlike with forms and queries. By the way I've been confusing everyone by saying "MDE" when I meant MDI (Multiple Document Interface). Lambert > -----Original Message----- > From: Marcus, Scott (GEAE, RHI Consulting) [SMTP:scott.marcus at ae.ge.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 6:18 AM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > I think that this will work in the MDB but he is using an MDE (might still > work). > > Scott Marcus > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com] > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 5:22 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Irritating Interface Problem > > > Lambert, > > This is very simplistic, but . . . > > Open the table and readjust to the size you want. Then add and remove a > field comment or some other innocuous thing. Then push the save button > to save the table. Then see if the table reopens at the new size you > wanted. > > This works for queries, maybe it will work for tables. > > Dan Waters > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Tim.Pain at e20.akzonobel.com Tue Apr 22 09:23:05 2003 From: Tim.Pain at e20.akzonobel.com (Pain, T. (Tim)) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 15:23:05 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Reports, temp tables and stored procedures Message-ID: <0BB2DFBAEF484F4AA077B46F1B165FE6367D50@lbrn12.d20.intra> I have a number of reports that are driven from forms that let the user input the report parameters, the code behind the form first clears a temporary work table, then builds and runs a query based on the forms parameters and then in code loops through this temp table updating other fields not populated by the first query. At the end of this it outputs a report based on the temp work table. Having recently moved the backend to SQL Server and I think I ought to be able to re-write the above to use #temp tables and stored procedures, but I have no real idea where to start. I reasonalby OK writing simple stored procedures but it's the creating and initial populating the #temp table, then looping back through it with further updates and then using the #temp table as the basis for the report that has me puzzled. Does anybody have a example they could let me have to get me started please? Many thanks Tim Pain Akzo Nobel Surface Chemistry Ltd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I then started digging into the configuration of the machines that worked and those that didn't. I came down to a VB file (Vbeext1.olb) on the development machine having a more current date than the machines not working. It was updated by a ftp terminal software we use to access some software. Thank you again for the suggestions. Patrick L. Hollermann -----Original Message----- From: MartyConnelly [mailto:martyconnelly at shaw.ca] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 4:12 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Visual Basic 6 setup toolkit error with packagingwizard from Dev XP Patrick Hollermann wrote: > Hello List, > I have an error that is giving me fits. I have a package made using MS > development package wizard for XP and it has worked well for me for > the last year. I redistributed and access runtime package (FE) that > looks at a SQL (BE) within a confined office complex for 5 revisions. > This has worked fine, until now. The process of putting a package > together on a server on the network and getting access to it from the > users work station appears to work fine. We are running Office XP with > SP3 installed on all machines. We have a combination of windows 2000 > and NT workstations at the users desks. > > Here is the process I follow when installing on a users workstation. > As I run the install process it starts running, opens, looks for > available space, and on the NT workstations it then starts installing > the Access Runtime files and then the 6mb adp file. On some of the > 2000 workstations the install also runs with no trouble. On some of > the 2000 workstations I get the following error in a Visual Basic 6.0 > Setup Toolkit pop up dialog box: > > "The Office System Pack cannot be installed in this system because it > requires Windows NT4.0 Service Pack 6 or later". > > After this error the installation terminates and says unsuccessful. > Has anyone seen this error before? Any places to look on the > development machine for something that I might have changed that is > causing this problem? As always any help is welcome. Thank you all for > your help and or suggestions. > > P.S. management won't spring for a different packaging software like > Sage.. I asked& > > Patrick L. Hollermann > Park Industries, Inc. > St. Cloud MN, USA > It might be admin install rights on Win2000 or all the Win 2000 clients on same SP. http://www.microsoft.com/office/ork/xp/one/depa04.htm http://www.microsoft.com/office/ork/2000/journ/IntelliMirror.h _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bheid at appdevgrp.com Tue Apr 22 09:59:18 2003 From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 10:59:18 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] sorting a list Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30333062@ADGSERVER> Hi Susan, QuickSort is the name of a sorting method. You would sort values in an array with this. You have to supply this function (Stuart replied with an implementation of the QuickSort algorithm). QuickSort is generically the fastest sorting method. Although there are times when the data input order degrades the speed. Also, the initial overhead of the QuickSort algorithm make it not a great candidate for small data sets (<=50 to 100). All of my replies have assumed that you were putting the data into an array before adding the data to your control. I was just throwing out this sort information for you if you chose to go that route. Here's a nice write-up about QuickSort and other sorts: http://www.mvps.org/vbnet/index.html?code/sort/qsoverview.htm Sorry for confusing you. Bobby -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 10:29 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] sorting a list > > For an array, if it is a small list, just use a simple Bubble sort (less > than 50 or so). Otherwise, a QuickSort is probably your best bet. ======QuickSort? Do you mean the sort tools? I'm dumping the list into a list control, can't sort a control's list that way -- can you? Or is it something else? If so, what? Susan H. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From harkins at iglou.com Tue Apr 22 10:01:29 2003 From: harkins at iglou.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:01:29 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] sorting a list References: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30333062@ADGSERVER> Message-ID: <015101c308e0$4f026780$3b4afccc@SusanOne> Thanks Bobby -- I'll take a look. Susan H. > Hi Susan, > > QuickSort is the name of a sorting method. You would sort values in an > array with this. You have to supply this function (Stuart replied with an > implementation of the QuickSort algorithm). QuickSort is generically the > fastest sorting method. Although there are times when the data input order > degrades the speed. Also, the initial overhead of the QuickSort algorithm > make it not a great candidate for small data sets (<=50 to 100). > > All of my replies have assumed that you were putting the data into an array > before adding the data to your control. I was just throwing out this sort > information for you if you chose to go that route. > > Here's a nice write-up about QuickSort and other sorts: > http://www.mvps.org/vbnet/index.html?code/sort/qsoverview.htm > > Sorry for confusing you. > > Bobby > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 10:29 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] sorting a list > > > > > > For an array, if it is a small list, just use a simple Bubble sort (less > > than 50 or so). Otherwise, a QuickSort is probably your best bet. > > ======QuickSort? Do you mean the sort tools? I'm dumping the list into a > list control, can't sort a control's list that way -- can you? Or is it > something else? If so, what? > > Susan H. > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From jim.hale at fleetpride.com Tue Apr 22 10:20:54 2003 From: jim.hale at fleetpride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 10:20:54 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Are DAP's any good? Message-ID: <869379ABF177D4118D3100508B5EF87305B5BC24@corp-es00> Thank you everyone for your help. I think I'll steer clear of DAPs Jim Hale -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 3:04 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Are DAP's any good? Go with DreamWeaver. Forget about DAPs, they were some marketing guy's notion, not a developer's notion. "Hey, we could lock in the customer base using this technology!" Earth to MS. Later! "Hard to customize" -- SSH gets the understatement award of the year! A. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: April 21, 2003 12:30 PM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Are DAP's any good? Are DAP's any good?If you're going with a public site, they're not a good choice. You need IE to be fully interactive. If the client's not IE, the page may or may not work -- usually you can see the data, but the client might not be able to interact with it. Of course, if that doesn't matter... If it's an Intranet and you can control the environment, they're a nice shortcut if you won't need to custom them. They don't use VBA, so they're hard to customize. Susan H. I am thinking of using DAP's for a web based input form. However, I see very little mention of them here. Are they one of those "features" that sound good on paper but are more trouble to implement then they are worth? I will be implementing the form on our intranet. All relevant users have office, albeit different versions. TIA for any experiences you wish to share. Jim hale _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bheid at appdevgrp.com Tue Apr 22 10:38:54 2003 From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:38:54 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] sorting a list Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30333065@ADGSERVER> You are quite welcome! :) Let me know if you have any more questions. Bobby -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 11:01 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] sorting a list Thanks Bobby -- I'll take a look. Susan H. From artful at rogers.com Tue Apr 22 10:54:34 2003 From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:54:34 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Terminal Services question Message-ID: <019901c308e7$7856d510$8e01a8c0@Rock> IIRC, there is a way to set TS up such that you don't see a desktop; instead it immediately runs the specified app, and when you close the app you close the session automatically. But now that I need to do it, I can't locate where I read this. Anyone? TIA, Arthur From jim.hale at fleetpride.com Tue Apr 22 11:08:57 2003 From: jim.hale at fleetpride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:08:57 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Union Query WHERE Bug? Message-ID: <869379ABF177D4118D3100508B5EF87305B5BC4A@corp-es00> I have had inconsistent results with where clauses in union queries. Now I create individual queries with the where clauses first then include the resulting queries in a union query. This seems to work satisfactorily although queries based on queries can quickly bog the machine down on large recordsets. Jim Hale -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins [mailto:harkins at iglou.com] Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 7:54 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Union Query WHERE Bug? UNION ALL forces all records to the results. Susan H. Solution: After I changed the query from 'UNION' to 'UNION ALL' the filter works!!! I don't know if this is a quirk in my application or Access -- or maybe the UNION ALL ensures a unique record. :-) Thanks for inspiring me to continue to hunt for the answer. Sometimes I have to sleep on a problem to get the solution. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From szeller at cce.umn.edu Tue Apr 22 11:18:17 2003 From: szeller at cce.umn.edu (Susan Zeller) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:18:17 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Reports, temp tables and stored procedures Message-ID: Tim, First, you should start posting ot the access SQL Server list b/c you'll get tons of help there on stuff like this. What you need to do is have the record source of your report be a stored procedure and use the input parameters property of the report to reference the controls on your form where your users make their selections. In the sproc, use temp tables like: select fieldA, fieldB into #MyTempTable >From MyTable Where FieldC= @CParameter Then, to update that recordset, you can use a cursor. These use a lot of overhead and can be slow, but I have been using them without problems. Someone on the other list will probably have better advise on alternatives. I can send you a sproc that uses a temp table and cursors if you want. Email me off list. --Susan Susan B. Zeller Office of Information Systems College of Continuing Education University of Minnesota 306 Wesbrook Hall 77 Pleasant Street SE Minneapolis, MN 55455 Phone: 612-626-4785 Fax: 612-625-2568 -----Original Message----- From: Pain, T. (Tim) [mailto:Tim.Pain at e20.akzonobel.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 9:23 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Reports, temp tables and stored procedures I have a number of reports that are driven from forms that let the user input the report parameters, the code behind the form first clears a temporary work table, then builds and runs a query based on the forms parameters and then in code loops through this temp table updating other fields not populated by the first query. At the end of this it outputs a report based on the temp work table. Having recently moved the backend to SQL Server and I think I ought to be able to re-write the above to use #temp tables and stored procedures, but I have no real idea where to start. I reasonalby OK writing simple stored procedures but it's the creating and initial populating the #temp table, then looping back through it with further updates and then using the #temp table as the basis for the report that has me puzzled. Does anybody have a example they could let me have to get me started please? Many thanks Tim Pain Akzo Nobel Surface Chemistry Ltd > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From greggs at msn.com Tue Apr 22 11:49:55 2003 From: greggs at msn.com (gregg steinbrenner) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:49:55 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Terminal Services question In-Reply-To: <019901c308e7$7856d510$8e01a8c0@Rock> Message-ID: If you go to the Program tab of the client properties, check the Start the following program box, fill in a path and file name... that should open it on log in and close terminal services when exiting the app. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 10:55 AM To: AccessD Subject: [AccessD] OT: Terminal Services question IIRC, there is a way to set TS up such that you don't see a desktop; instead it immediately runs the specified app, and when you close the app you close the session automatically. But now that I need to do it, I can't locate where I read this. Anyone? TIA, Arthur _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From pedro at plex.nl Tue Apr 22 12:44:27 2003 From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:44:27 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] 10 days before References: <013d01c308c9$eeb9f980$8e01a8c0@Rock> Message-ID: <000001c308f7$0676a910$fbc581d5@pedro> MessageHi Arthur, the dates in TableA are looking the same as in TableB. For Example: 01-02-2000 and can be anything, but are all from different years. The dates in TableB are all dates between 01-01-1950 and 31-12-2000. What i need is the records from TableB from the 10 days before the dates that are present in TableA. I'll hope this explanes enough Pedro Janssen ----- Original Message ----- From: Arthur Fuller To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 2:23 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] 10 days before What exactly do the dates in TableA look like? Are they all the same day and month, or could they be anything? There's something odd about the way this is modeled, methinks. A. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen Sent: April 22, 2003 7:08 AM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] 10 days before Hello Group, i have two tables Tablea has 1 field with dates (1 date per year) and TableB has 1 date field (1 record per date from all dates between 1950 and 2002) and 10 number fields. What i need is from all the dates that are present in TableA, all the records from TableB for 10 days back. 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Response.Write "" & rs("MenuItem") & "" Thanks for being there...:) Mark From chizotz at charter.net Tue Apr 22 13:46:47 2003 From: chizotz at charter.net (Ron Allen) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:46:47 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] 10 days before In-Reply-To: <005e01c308bf$8a800f90$fdc581d5@pedro> Message-ID: Pedro, You could try something similar to this: SELECT TableB.DateB FROM TableB, TableA WHERE (((TableB.DateB) Between [TableA]![DateA]-10 And [TableA]![DateA] AND [TableA]![DateA]=#4/20/2003#)); If you need to restrict the dates selected form TableA, you can do that in the last line. HTH, Ron On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:07:42 +0200 "Pedro Janssen" wrote: >Hello Group, > >i have two tables >Tablea has 1 field with dates (1 date per year) >and TableB has 1 date field (1 record per date from all >dates between 1950 and 2002) and 10 number fields. > >What i need is from all the dates that are present in >TableA, all the records from TableB for 10 days back. > >TIA > >Pedro Janssen