[AccessD] Money, Money, Money makes the world go round

Mike and Doris Manning mikedorism at ntelos.net
Tue Aug 5 14:53:06 CDT 2003


Sounds like an excellent idea William.  I really think it is something we
should consider because hosting costs are our biggest pocket drain.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 2:31 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Money, Money, Money makes the world go round


...ok ...gonna stick my nose back in the dba pie for a moment or so ...as
Lembit has stated, dba came about because this list was dumped upon or held
hostage on different occasions by "free" providers who for one reason or
another left us in the lurch ...it is firm dba policy which I had as much or
more say in creating as anyone, not to ever again allow AccessD to become
dependent upon a single provider ...thus the need to pay our own way which
has served us in good stead.

...however ...circumstances change ...and what was once necessary may no
longer be the exact case.

...if we had at least TWO free hosts, each fully capable of meeting all of
our needs, and each willing to mirror the other full time ...then I can see
no reason to continue laying out hundreds of dollars for paid hosting
services ...the mirroring setup ensures that dba is never dependent upon any
single host for the lists continued operation ...if one goes down, the
mirror is able to pick it up immediately ...which is actually better
reliability than we have now.

...I remember months back writing a memo similar to Lembits in regards to an
offer of free hosting by Drew ...hindsight is a wonderful thing but many of
the deterrents back then are now gone.

...I'd suggest that if Vlad, Drew, and any others with sufficient space/bw
available want to set-up a mirroring arrangement, that dba move to do so
asap ...that will immediately stop the money bleed and allow dba to use what
funds remain in more productive ways.

William Hindman
"You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the
best golfer is a black guy, The Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is
accusing the US of arrogance, and Germany doesn't want to go to war."

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lembit Soobik" <Lembit.Soobik at t-online.de>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Money, Money, Money makes the world go round


> thank you, Vlad,
> for the great offer, but our policy is to not accept such free offer. 
> We have been burned, and founding this little company DBA Inc. has 
> been
done
> in order to become independent.
> It is really nice of you to offer that and thank you, but sorry, no, 
> thank
you .
> Lembit
>
> Lembit Soobik
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ACTEBS" <actebs at actebs.com.au>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 2:15 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Money, Money, Money makes the world go round
>
>
> > Lembit,
> >
> > What are you paying for hosting? I own the server that our web site 
> > is hosted on - mytakeaway.com.au - because this list has been so 
> > good to me over the years, I'd like offer you hosting for free. The 
> > only thing
you'll
> > need to do is re-direct the place where your IP is pointing to and
direct it
> > our IP address and I can configure it in IIS. The server is 
> > currently
this
> > configuration:
> >
> > A) Twin AMD MP 2100 - (Overkill I know, but it was all we could get 
> > that was reasonably priced in a dual configuration)
> > B) 1GB RAM
> > C) 14Mbit connection to the internet
> >
> > The only thing I need to know is how much HDD space you require as 
> > we
have
> > an unlimited Upload -> to the internet user and a limit of 2GB
download ->
> > us to the server...We download sweet FA as most of our traffic is
outgoing
> > and so is free...
> >
> > Get back to me if you want to go explore this further...
> >
> > Vlad
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit 
> > Soobik
> > Sent: Tuesday, 5 August 2003 9:56 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: [AccessD] Money, Money, Money makes the world go round
> >
> >
> > Friends,
> >
> > It is time once again to talk about money...or more accurately, the 
> > lack thereof. Since this list - like anything else - is not free, we 
> > need
from
> > time to time a little bit of money to pay our bills.
> >
> > Our fincancial needs are not great, but if those who feel they have
received
> > help for their project can donate a bit, I am sure we can continue 
> > to
make
> > our payments in a timely manner.
> >
> > Having said this, please be so kind as to visit 
> > http://www.databaseadvisors.com/donations.htm
> >
> > In addition, if we can secure a few companies as Corporate Sponsors 
> > -
for as
> > little as $100/year -  we can live quite a while off of that.  In
addition
> > to the benefits detailed at 
> > http://www.databaseadvisors.com/donations/corporate.htm, the 
> > Corporate Sponsor is allowed to include "Official Sponsor of DBA" 
> > (plus a link to
his
> > website) in his signature line.
> >
> > Now, this is a special offer, valid until Aug-31-2003.  You get a 
> > whole
year
> > of free advertising in the signature line, plus all the free advice 
> > from
the
> > best Access Developers the world over! Surely that is worth more 
> > than
$100.
> >
> > Thank you in advance for your conintued support of DataBase 
> > Advisors,
> >
> >
> > Lembit Soobik President DBA
> > and the Executive Team of DBA
> >
> >
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