[AccessD] Sort of like a filter only not

Susan Harkins ssharkins at bellsouth.net
Sat Dec 13 10:15:07 CST 2003


What are you selecting that would display other records? I guess that's
where I'm getting lost. If you're using a combo to select "something" --
what is something? I'm guessing it isn't a specific customer then right?

You might even start out with a new start screen -- one that says -- are you
at a customer's site, they say Yes -- it asks for the customer and then from
then right then -- only customer records are made available, regardless of
where they go? I'm not sure how you'd implement it and of course, it would
take more work than you'd really like, but ultimately less work than some
others. But if you could somehow limit the records from the beginning, it
would solve the problem wouldn't it? If the data is already stored
separately from the front end, it might just mean updating a few connection
objects. Sorry if this is no help.

Susan H.


> No Martin that's just not so in this case. How, for example, do you use a
> combo to select something without displaying the records around the one
you
> need? It's not a training issue.
>
> Andy
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
> > Sent: 13 December 2003 15:26
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sort of like a filter only not
> >
> >
> > Of course the simple appraoch is to train up the users.
> >
> > Martin
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Andy Lacey" <andy at minstersystems.co.uk>
> > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 5:44 AM
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Sort of like a filter only not
> >
> >
> > > No, but if I encrypt (ie scramble in a structured way) then I can
> > unencrypt
> > > that one and encrypt another customer afterwards.
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav
> > > > Brock
> > > > Sent: 13 December 2003 12:02
> > > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sort of like a filter only not
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Andy
> > > >
> > > > I see. But my idea wouldn't work if the sales person was visiting
> > > > several clients per day - except if all customers were
> > scrambled and
> > > > he brings a list telling which real customer, say, "McAllen &
> > > > Daughters Ltd." represents.
> > > >
> > > > /gustav
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Not sure what you mean by "mixed up" Gustav. Take one of
> > > > many screens.
> > > > > Here you can select a financial period and year; select a
> > > > customer or
> > > > > a customer group or leave blank for all customers, hit
> > Print and a
> > > > > report will show the orders for those criteria, a summary of
> > > > > expenditure, render it into GBP if it was export and so on.
> > > > And that's
> > > > > just one of many, many examples. Now the pitfalls are
> > that a) the
> > > > > sales person may/will drop down the combo to choose the
> > customer,
> > > > > thereby showing other customers or b) may inadvertently
> > select the
> > > > > wrong customer and print the report (and hand it over to his
> > > > > client before he realises his mistake - aargh!) or c) hit Print
> > > > > without selecting a customer and therefore list
> > activity for all
> > > > > customers. This is the sort of thing I'm talking about. And as I
> > > > stressed right
> > > > > from the start there are oodles of such situations in
> > the system
> > > > > so attacking each one individually is not an option.
> > > >
> > > > > At the moment I like your idea Gustav of deliberately
> > > > "corrupting" the
> > > > > rest of the data so that it's there but unrecognisable. If
> > > > I did that
> > > > > to selected fields (names, addresses, phone nos, email
> > > > addresses and
> > > > > so - not too many I don't think) I think that would do
> > > > nicely. I guess
> > > > > I could even do it by encryption so that it's reversible.
> > > > That way my
> > > > > on-the-road salesperson could "corrupt" all but one
> > customer, then
> > > > > un-corrupt all after first meeting and re-corrupt all
> > but a second
> > > > > customer when they get to the next place.
> > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Andy Lacey
> > > > > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > --------- Original Message --------
> > > > > From: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > > > > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > > > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > > > > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sort of like a filter only not
> > > > > Date: 12/12/03 13:44
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Andy
> > > >
> > > > > Hmmm ... but why are the data initially mixed up?
> > > >
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