dave sharpe
davesharpe2 at cox.net
Sat Feb 8 13:24:00 CST 2003
John I regret the delay in putting in my two cents worth. I have a access to my company's VPN (Nortel Networks "Contivity VPN V04_15.14). I just use MY NETWORK PLACES to get to my PCs at the office. This method doesn't impact the normal operation of the PC but the folders are right there when I've connected ( I don't have DSL I go thru my Cable Modem). Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "John W. Colby" <jcolby at colbyconsulting.com> To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 4:19 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Mapped drive on VPN > Bryan, > > My understanding with Terminal Server which comes with Windows is that you > end up running a "virtual machine". I use quotes because I am not sure of > the ins and outs, but I am told that the remote machine does NOT display > your actions. IOW, someone can be working on that machine at the same time > I am doing whatever remotely. > > For RASing into my home machine this really isn't an issue, but I know that > when I used PC Anywhere in the late 90s to jack into a client up in > California from my home in Mexico, the machine I got in on at the client's > site was "hijacked". No one could do anything, they saw my screen, watched > my mouse, and my keystrokes. > > I prefer the Terminal Server solution since it allows several people in at > once, and a user could (theoretically) still use the machine locally. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 4:02 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Mapped drive on VPN > > > There is also VNC. Your PC needs to have the Access client on it and the > "server" version of VNC. > > The one I use is TightVNC, which is a small (file size) version of VNC. You > can download it from http://www.tightvnc.com > > Bryan Carbonnell > bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca > > >>> DWUTKA at marlow.com 06-Feb-03 3:51:34 PM >>> > Oh, that's something different. You can either use Terminal Server (a > service you can setup on 2000 server (or an option with NT 4.0 server), or > you can use a variety of remote software like PC Anywhere...or my personal > favorite, Remote Administrator. > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 1:34 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Mapped drive on VPN > > > I'm not talking about VPN now. I am talking about Remote Access. Getting a > snapshot of their desktop, opening programs ON their computer, etc. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Dettman > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 2:23 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Mapped drive on VPN > > > John, > > <<I assume though that actual remote access requires Win2K Server?>> > > No. For example, I have a client right now with a mix of Win 95, Win 98, > and Win 2000 stations in a peer to peer setup and I connect to any or all > fine. > > A VPN simply gives you a physical connection to the network. Best way to > think of it is that you can/would do the same thing just as if you were > sitting there in the office. > > Jim Dettman > President, > Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc. > (315) 699-3443 > jimdettman at earthlink.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 2:09 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Mapped drive on VPN > > > Jim, > > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Dettman > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 1:40 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Mapped drive on VPN > > > John, > > <<If my customer only has Microsoft Windows 2000 (non-server) can I still > set up > a VPN with them?>> > > Yes, you can still setup a VPN. VPN's are implemented with a router > and/or Firewall, which simply gets you a connection to the network. More > and more, this is all in one box. Something like Netgears FVL328 or a Cisco > 800. > > Jim Dettman > President, > Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc. > (315) 699-3443 > jimdettman at earthlink.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John Skolits > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:06 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Mapped drive on VPN > > > Jim, > > To set up the VPN, doesn't the VPN server require Windows 2000 'Server'? If > my customer only has Microsoft Windows 2000 (non-server) can I still set up > a VPN with them? > > John Skolits > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Dettman > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 11:25 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Mapped drive on VPN > > > > I just went through this with a client where I setup a VPN between two of > their offices. They hate the slowdown when the drive is mapped, so I gave > them batch files to map/unmap the drive as needed as the connection is only > for occasional use. > > And yes, it's the best way in the world to support clients. I have quite > a few now setup this way and it really speeds things up. > > Jim Dettman > President, > Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc. > (315) 699-3443 > jimdettman at earthlink.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 11:14 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Mapped drive on VPN > > > Drew, > > You DA MAN!!! > > The first part worked like a dream, net use. > > The second part has too much stuff that needs an example for me to > understand. > > rasdial MyVPNName UserName Password /domain:VPN'sRemoteDomainName > > I'm assuming MyVPNName is what I call the connection on my machine - in this > case "Virtual Private Connection Beacon", > UserName Password I understand > > /domain:VPN'sRemoteDomainName though is not specific enough to figure out > (for me anyway) > /domain I assume is the 64.252.xxx.xxx stuff. > > What is :VPN'sRemoteDomainName? There is no domain, it is all A2K desktop. > I'm guessing the workgroup is "Workgroup" since that is the normal default. > > However, in the end (after playing around) ... it seems all I need is > > rasdial MyVPNName > > I have to guess that all of those other params are already in the connection > widget that gets called. > > I now have a batch file that looks like: > > rasdial "Virtual Private Connection Beacon" > net use W: \\192.168.0.10\Database > > That starts the VPN connection and maps the drive for me. > > A second batch file: > > net use w: /DELETE > rasdial "Virtual Private Connection Beacon" /disconnect > > unmaps the drive and disconnects the VPN connection. > > HOLY CRAP! Is this cool or what? > > DREW'S DA MAN! DREW'S DA MAN! DREW'S DA MAN! DREW'S DA MAN! > > Ok, I got a bit carried away there, but it really was a PITA to have that > mapped drive there that wasn't real, slowing everything down. And now I > know how to map my server stuff as well. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 1:26 AM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Mapped drive on VPN > > > Okay, a simple solution would be to make two batch files. > > Have one batch file setup the network drive, and one to kill the networku > 06, 2003 12:06 PM > To: > drive. > > To setup the network drive: (first line removes substitution) > > subst T: /D > net use T: \\computername\sharename > > To kill the network mapping: > > net use T: /DELETE > subst T: C:\MyLocalTDrive > > (MyLocalTDrive would be a folder in the root of your C: Drive) > > Now you could probably get fancy, and write a routine that keeps checking > for the existance of the VPN network, but I think just putting those two > sets of lines into two simple batch files would be a simple AND easy > solution. > > You can even go a bit further if you want. If you have RAS turned on for > Windows 2000, it allows you to use command line 'dialing' for a VPN > connection. > > To connect to a VPN source: > > rasdial MyVPNName UserName Password /domain:VPN'sRemoteDomainName > > To Disconnect: > rasdial MyVPNName /disconnect > > If those work, you could just have two batch files to start and stop your > VPN connection. > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:14 PM > To: AccessD > Subject: [AccessD] OT: Mapped drive on VPN > > > Guys, I have a VPN setup to allow me to Remote Access into a client's > system.. Works great, highly recommended. > > I also have a mapped drive on the client's system. using that, whenever I > have the VPN connection going I can drag and drop from my hard disk to the > client's hard disk. Also works well except... if I don't have the VPN up, > it wreaks havoc with many different things. Basically any time that Windows > goes out to "scan" for available media, I have to endure a timeout. This > means when any File Find dialog opens and I click the combo at the top to > display the hard disks... 10 (or more) seconds while it figures out it can't > see that drive. IEs "autocomplete" in the address bar doesn't work any more > etc. > > My question is, is there any way, using scripting or otherwise, to set up > something like a batch file to create the mapped drive. This would allow me > to unmap the drive whenever I am not connected, the connect and remap the > drive whenever I want to connect to that client using the VPN. > > I like the mapped drive and drag and drop from here to there soooo much I am > very hesitant to disable it, but it is a major PITA to endure the problems > whenever the VPN is not active. > > John W. 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