[AccessD] multi-platform ASP was: OT: Yee Haw....

Drew Wutka DWUTKA at marlow.com
Wed Feb 12 20:09:00 CST 2003


Technically, that's not a correction, it's a clarification.  <VBG>
(Charlotte said at least, so 1808 is at least 50 years ago.....)

Just proves my point that ! has represented Factorial for quite some time.
I wonder if the ! was used, because it is close to the other math characters
(+-*, etc.) in Ascii value.  A not equals is really an equal sign with a
slash through it, so maybe the != combination is supposed to represent that
(since there is no Ascii representation for a true 'not equal').  Probably
should have been |=.

Who knows....

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov [mailto:shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru]
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 7:55 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] multi-platform ASP was: OT: Yee Haw....


> For the last 50 years at least, Drew.
Correction! :)
It was introduced almost 200 years ago in 1808 by Christian Kramp:

http://www.roma.unisa.edu.au/07305/symbols.htm#Ancillary 

Shamil

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 3:16 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] multi-platform ASP was: OT: Yee Haw....


> >>I don't know how long ! has meant factorial in the math world.
> 
> For the last 50 years at least, Drew.
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 10:42 PM
> To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] multi-platform ASP was: OT: Yee Haw....
> 
> 
> Hmmmmm...wasn't really speaking programatically.  I was speaking from
> math terms...I don't know how long ! has meant factorial in the math
> world.
> 
> Drew
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 4:53 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] multi-platform ASP was: OT: Yee Haw....
> 
> 
> I'm not sure about this one, Drew, but as an official old timer I'm
> pretty sure that ! meant NOT before it meant Factorial. I learned != as
> NOT EQUAL in something like 1984-5. So I'm on the side of the demented
> whacko. What languages support ! as Factorial? I would have thought such
> a rarely used formula would naturally fall outside the language
> definition and be implemented instead as a function Factorial(), or left
> for you to write.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
> Sent: February 11, 2003 5:05 PM
> To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] multi-platform ASP was: OT: Yee Haw....
> 
> First of all, what demented whacko
> decided that != is 'not equal'?  ! is for factorial.  How does that turn
> an equal sign into a 'not equal' sign.  However, <> does make
> mathematical sense, because something cannot be both less then, and
> greater then another number, so it represents an inequality...at least
> more then a factorial does!
> 
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