[AccessD] OT question: Outlook

Heenan, Lambert Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com
Tue Feb 18 11:04:00 CST 2003


And some of the least perfect parts of a computer system are the users! :-)

But seriously...

So what if your AV signature file was not update in the last twelve hours?
Neither did the instructions go out to all the users saying, "Don't open any
emails from people you KNOW, they might be infected.

With or without a preview pane, people are going to open emails from people
they know, and that's how most email viruses spread. 

You have to keep up to date with the signature files. Also, my personal
firewall quarantines emails with certain types of attachments before the
email client even gets a change to open them. 

In any kind of large corporate setup Exchange server is probably in use, and
the server should be catching intruders before the user's get to see their
emails.

JMHO

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	andy at minstersystems.co.uk [SMTP:andy at minstersystems.co.uk]
> Sent:	Tuesday, February 18, 2003 10:42 AM
> To:	accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject:	RE: [AccessD] OT question: Outlook
> 
> Of course it isn't perfect, as I said, but if you take that approach you
> may as well ditch all protection because it's not 100%. But you guys are
> obviously speaking from the privileged position of never having suffered.
> IIRC Norton came out with new definitions to combat Nimda about 12 hours
> after it appeared. The anti-virus protection wasn't worth a damn for that
> time. If you're relying totally on your AV software you may be in for a
> nasty surprise one day.
> 
> Anyway you decide on your own procedures but I just put "virus protection
> outlook preview pane" into a Google search and see that I'm not alone.
> 
> Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> 
> -- Original Message --
> From: Brett Barabash <BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com>
> To: "'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Send: 2003-02-18
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT question: Outlook
> 
> >...if I see any email I am suspicious of...
> 
> Which is a real b***h, since many of these viruses go through the Address
> Book and send emails to the addresses contained in it.  The majority of
> the
> viruses I have encountered came from emails from friends and family!
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk
> [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 9:04 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT question: Outlook
> 
> 
> >I thought it was the job of the virus scanner to find and isolate viruses
> before they ever get to your mail box.
> 
> It certainly is. But I like to cover that period of time between a new
> virus
> being around and getting new virus definitions from, in my case, Norton.
> It's an imperfect world but if I see any email I am suspicious of I go to
> it
> in my Inbox, delete it and empty my Deleted Items folder. With Preview
> Pane
> on, the minute you go to it in Inbox you have opened it.
> Call me paranoid but last year we got smacked by the Nimda virus in the
> first few hours of its existence. The first person to switch their PC on
> auto-started Outlook which displayed Inbox with Preview Pane on. Without
> them doing anything they'd set off the virus. 
> 
> Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> 
> -- Original Message --
> From: "John W. Colby" jcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Send: 2003-02-18
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT question: Outlook
> 
> >It also means that when you load Outlook, or first switch to Inbox, that
> the top email is opened. If it was a virus-carrier you have no chance to
> delete it before opening it.
> 
> Can someone explain to me how this is different from going down one by one
> and opening the emails - and getting infected?
> 
> I thought it was the job of the virus scanner to find and isolate viruses
> before they ever get to your mail box.
> 
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com]On
> Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:59 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT question: Outlook
> 
> 
> Thanks to everone for their answers. It's now fixed.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com]
> On Behalf Of
> andy at minstersystems.co.uk
> Sent: February 18, 2003 7:22 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT question: Outlook
> 
> 
> Arthur
> I agree with Loraine that View/Preview Pane is what you're after. However
> I
> caution you against using that facility anyway. It means that as you
> scroll
> your list each email is opened. It also means that when you load Outlook,
> or
> first switch to Inbox, that the top email is opened. If it was a
> virus-carrier you have no chance to delete it before opening it. Boom -
> you're hit. Same each time you get new mail. It's a company rule here not
> to
> use the Preview Pane, and I believe it's quite a common policy. PITA I
> know,
> but not as bad as recovering from a virus strike.
> 
> Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> 
> 
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Christian, Lorraine" LChristian at MassMutual.com>
> To: "'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'"
> accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Send: 2003-02-18
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT question: Outlook
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Arthur
> I 
> think you are lookng for View/Preview Pane, I hope.
>  
> Lorraine
>  
>  
>  
> 
>   -----Original Message-----From: Arthur Fuller 
>   [mailto:artful at rogers.com]Sent:
> Tuesday, February 18, 2003 6:54 
>   AMTo: AccessDSubject: [AccessD] OT question: 
>   Outlook
>   Outlook abended 
>   yesterday and today the default window is no longer split horizontally,
> with 
>   the body of the selected message visible in the lower half of the
> window.
> I 
>   can't locate the setting that controls this. Now I have to double-click
> a 
>   message to read it.
>    
>   Anyone know how to 
>   restore this to its original 
> state?
> 
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