Drew Wutka
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Thu Feb 20 17:19:01 CST 2003
Just to give you a very big reason to avoid frames (especially as the 'heart' of your site), many search engines just completely skip a frames page. So if they are 'within' your site, then those pages wouldn't be 'hit', but if it's your entire site, you may not show up on web crawling search engines. A quick alternative to that is to set a 'splash' page, a regular plain html page, that is the home page of your site. Have a link, and a Meta Tag timer (I can dig it up for you if you want), that redirects to your site. That allows the crawler to hit your site (just put 'key' info on that page for the crawlers to pick up), and still have a frames page site. Drew > -----Original Message----- > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 9:29 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] New look for Colby Consulting > > Yea, everybody's telling me to stay away from frames as well. > Unfortunately that is the way it was originally set up and it works. I > will someday remove the frames I'm sure - as soon as I understand the > alternative. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Klos, Susan > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 10:17 AM > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] New look for Colby Consulting > > > John, I took a course in web design and was told that tables are the key. > Everything should go into a table or cascading tables. 'Course I was also > told to stay away from frames. If you want some help, let me know. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com] > > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 9:51 AM > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] New look for Colby Consulting > > > > Susan, > > > > Nope, not in a table AFAICT. > > > > I have gone in and looked at the html. Understand that I am not a web > > head so... > > > > However I don't see anything amiss. I was expecting to see weird old > code > > left hanging around these buttons (flash objects) but the code looks > very > > clean, very symmetrical, identical from button to button. Sizes of the > > button are the same. > > > > I don't get it. > > > > John W. Colby > > Colby Consulting > > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Klos, Susan > > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 9:37 AM > > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] New look for Colby Consulting > > > > > > John, are you putting them in a table? Each in its own cell? What > sizes > > have you designated for the cells and the table? > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com] > > > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 9:36 AM > > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] New look for Colby Consulting > > > > > > >One other thing John. In NS 6.2, there are some pretty funky things > > > happening with the navigation buttons. The second from the bottom > > > (C2dbBEBuild) overlaps the majority of the bottom one(C2DbsysVars) > > > > > > Yea, and unfortunately I don't even know how to fix this. When it > comes > > > to the web I am a drag n drop kinda guy. It looks fine in IE6. Where > > do > > > I go to discover why it would be overlaid as you describe? And why > > would > > > it do that? > > > > > > John W. Colby > > > Colby Consulting > > > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com > > > [mailto:accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Bryan > Carbonnell > > > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 6:25 AM > > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] New look for Colby Consulting > > > > > > > > > On 19 Feb 2003 at 13:00, Brett Barabash wrote: > > > > > > > You could probably shrink the left frame a bit, since the buttons > are > > > > smaller than before. This would give more navigation room on the > > > > right. A nice touch for those with lower resolution screens! > > > > > > Nope. He can't. In NS 6.2 and NS 4.7 there is a scroll bar in the > > > nav frame and if the nav frame is shrunk anymore, there would not > > > be enough room for the scroll bar and the buttons. > > > > > > I also get a horizontal scroll bar in the nav frame in IE6 SP1 if the > > > IE window is not maximized. So if anything it needs to be nudged a > > > bit wider, maybe 10 px. > > > > > > One other thing John. In NS 6.2, there are some pretty funky things > > > happening with the navigation buttons. The second from the bottom > > > (C2dbBEBuild) overlaps the majority of the bottom > > > one(C2DbsysVars) > > > > > > I'll send a screen shot off-line, so you can see what I mean. > > > > > > > Overall, looks good, loads fast, no broken links, got a great beat > and > > > > I can dance to it... > > > > > > Other than that, I'll agree with the rest of the comments > > > > > > Other browsers tested in and look fine. > > > > > > Mozilla 1.2.1 > > > K-Melon 0.7 (Mozilla based) > > > > > > -- > > > Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca > > > If you never fail, you're not trying hard enough. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > AccessD mailing list > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > Is email taking over your day? 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