[AccessD] OT - My union grievance

Jim Dettman jimdettman at earthlink.net
Mon Jul 7 12:45:17 CDT 2003


John,

  I know what your going through.  I have one large client, which has an IT
department that constantly struggles with this. They go round and round with
it all the time.

  The client is World Wide and I deal with all the North American
operations, which has it's own IT department.  For the size of the company,
the IT department is way too small.

  The users, being told to get the job done, are frustrated with the length
of time it takes for IT to get anything done.  So they either develop it
themselves or hire outside contractors to do it for them.  The first is bad
for many reasons.  Most are developed very poorly.  This makes them
difficult to maintain (eating up time), are prone to breakage, and may not
address the real issue in the first place.  Employees often do not see the
"big picture" from a corporate level.

  For example, an employee creates a system to do incentive calculations for
payroll.  First, maybe that it's possible that with some slight
modifications, the app may be useable throughout the corporation, thus
increasing ROI (Return on investment) and save the company money.  Second,
the company may stand back and ask "why are we paying incentive now?" and
decide to do away with it, thus taking a different approach to solving the
problem.  Something the employee would never consider or could accomplish
even if they did.  The employee does not have "the big picture" and cannot
make informed decisions, nor execute them without the authority.

  Then their is the typical lack of documentation.  And what happens when
the employee who writes it disappears?  The knowledge of the app and what it
does is lost.  In most cases, it's redone at considerable cost just because
it's too hard to figure out what's going on with it.  In some cases, it's
just forgotten.

  This is also what happens when consultants are hired in some cases.  Then
in addition there is the issue of ownership.  This client spent over $10,000
on one app, only to get to the end and have the consultant refuse to release
the source code after they failed to finish it.  It failed because the
consultant had no real knowledge of the existing applications and system and
how to work with them.  This applies to user developed apps as well.
Poorly written apps can bring a network to it's knees.

 It's a catch 22 for the users though.  Without requesting projects
formally, the IT department will never grow, as management will never see
the need to add more bodies.  But if they ask, it may take forever to get
the project done.  And of course management is always wanting to cut rather
then add.

  This whole issue has arisen from the fact that many products (like Access)
make it all to easy to "develop" an app, but most users don't have the
slightest clue on how to properly develop one.  That's probably the best
point you can make: they are doing your job and through lack of training
will do it poorly, thus costing the company money in the long run.


  I could go on, but I've think I've mentioned enough that you can use.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 12:34 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT - My union grievance


First I'd like to let you know where I am coming from. I have to be a
union member...I work in a "closed" shop...but I am not a huge supporter
of the union...they have their place, but they go overboard and protect
people whom they shouldn't. I usually prefer to settle disputes by going
to the boss and voicing my opinion. But around Xmas of this past year,
there were many layoffs, and many more threatened. And, the majority of
us believe this will be an annual event now. There are people out there
doing our jobs that shouldn't be (i.e. nurses, social workers, etc.).

I recently sent a letter to our union, which basically asked them to
send out a blanket statement to it's membership (i.e. my brothers and
sisters in unionism), that notified them that they should not be
performing duties of other coworkers. Three others, in my
department...the MIS dept...liked my letter and asked if they could sign
on to it. I adjusted the original letter to reflect their problems as
well...they are more tech related...and sent it out. Apparently, it
ruffled some feathers, and soon after, the union filed a grievance on
our behalf...turns out they can do this w/out us even wanting them to do
it.

The reason that I am writing to the list, is that I want ammo for my
hearing tomorrow. It is just an initial hearing, but I would like to
make some solid impressions. To do this I want facts, or at least
quality in my statements. As you all know, Access is unique in that it
can be used by a novice office worker for simple desktop dbs, as well as
hard core programmers pumping out intense programs, and everything in
between. But where do you draw the line? I have said that if someone
creates something for their own use, that is saved to their HDD (i.e. a
tool for them to do their job), then I don't have a problem with it.
However, if it becomes, or is to become, a tool that they whole
department will become dependant on, and/or it is going to reside on the
network, then it should be created and managed by the MIS department.

I have gotten calls in the past, saying that, "our program is down and
our department cannot function w/out it. We need this fixed ASAP." My
response has been, "What program?" Departments have become dependant on
a program that we were totally unaware of its existence. Because these
programs are written by non-programmers, they are often difficult, if at
all possible, to repair. And, in some cases, the person who did write
it, no longer works for that department and therefore cannot help them.

The politicians...for those of you unaware, I work for a county
govt...have sent out requests for each employee to write a small
paragraph, justifying our positions...I've had to do this two or three
times. I wouldn't have so much of a problem doing this, if I was assured
that the people doing my job were exposed here. It seems to me that if
they have the time to do my job, there job must not be keeping them busy
enough, and therefore maybe that is where the cuts can be made.

I would appreciate an advice, input, etc. that anyone could give me
here.

Take care!

John W Clark
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