[AccessD] OT: ASP.Net editor

Bruce Bruen bbruen at bigpond.com
Mon Jul 28 22:06:09 CDT 2003


Lets see if I am following the same procedure

1. ASP.net running, inbuilt server not running, page is loaded in editor
2. Click View/Start
3. inbuilt server starts up, clutters the screen with advertising, .....
4. I go get a cofee
5. The page is loaded in IE on top of the last page I was using
(regardless of whether I was using the page)
6. close IE - all instances
7. altTab back to ASP IDE
8. clisk View/Start again

IE just opens and shows the page, fairly 	quickly. No messages, no
dialogs.

Web matrix server is running on port 8080, using a generic subdir in My
Documents as physical path, "/" as root.
Root url used is localhost, not a nodename
ASP.net is ver 0.5 build 464 Technology preview
.net framework is 1.1.4322.573
IIS is running v5.1 configured for ASP.net as ISAPI filter, 
Cant think of any other config info that might help.

I've gotta go out now, will be back in 5-6 hours if you need any more
info

Bruce



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
jcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Sent: Tuesday, 29 July 2003 11:34 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: ASP.Net editor


>I have not suffered the same problem as you with the inbuilt server 
>though?

If you run the page, then close the resulting page and run it again you
don't get a message (from WM)?  Whenever I click the "start" button, a
dialog pops up asking me to "start a web application in the given
virtual directory" etc.  The FIRST time, it starts the server.  The
second time, the server is already started (and visible in the toolbar).
This dialog then proceeds to tell me that it is already started.  Which
begs the question why the dialog opens to begin with (the second time).
How do I "run" the page? Maybe the "start" command is the wrong thing to
do?

John W. Colby
www.colbyconsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Bruce Bruen
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:15 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: ASP.Net editor


Within the limited look that I have had at the .NET version of ASP ( and
its not to bad eh!) I have found that Dreamweaver MX gave me the best
ablity to "look under the hood".  I too, have both WM and VS tools and
have felt exactly the same - too powerful to enable a good understanding
of the basics.  I have not suffered the same problem as you with the
inbuilt server though? Install Problems again???  I am currently looking
for alternative tools, considering Kylix ( am I raving mad?),
considering other Linux based tools ( definitely stark raving mad! )
Sorry I cant give you any help on the specific problem.

Bruce

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
jcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Sent: Tuesday, 29 July 2003 10:46 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] OT: ASP.Net editor


I am looking for a reasonable wysiwyg ASP.Net programming environmelnt.
I have the ASP.Net Web Matrix widget from M$ site, and I also have
Visual Studio.net with ASP.Net (I guess, at least the ability to create
web pages from it).  My main problem with VS.net is that it doesn't do
things the easy way, rather creating an entire slew of directories and
files for any "project" that you create.  While this may eventually be a
good thing, at the moment it simply obscures what I am trying to do.
OTOH it is very powerful with built in wizards to do things like help me
hook up to data etc. and (for those used to it) intellisense.

Web Matrix OTOH can work with a single page, creating things drag and
drop. No intellisense (AFAICT) and few if any wizards but a nice drag
and drop environment none the less.  To be quite honest, my biggest
problem with that is I haven't figured out how to get it to NOT attempt
to start a new copy of it's built-in web server when one is already
open.  When you run a page to test it, it opens it's built in web
server.  If it's already open, it tells you that the server is already
open.  I have to go close it, then run the page again.

Does anyone know how to get the Web Matrix not to remind me that the
server is open and just use it (or close it for me) automatically?  Are
there any other recommendations for programming environments for
ASP.Net?

John W. Colby
www.colbyconsulting.com


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