[AccessD] Distribution - a bit OT

Martin Reid mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk
Mon Jun 2 13:04:25 CDT 2003


Dont sell Access sell JET. Thats the common link whatever solution you use 
be it VBA, VB or C++ thats your data store will be the JET Engine the rest 
is good programming and design.

Martin



On Jun 2 2003, Drew Wutka wrote:

> Yes, someone else posted that.  I am sorry, I was assuming that it reacted
> the same as installing the full version.
> 
> Drew
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 10:07 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Distribution - a bit OT
> 
> 
> That is NOT true, Drew.  I'm sorry, but we have been doing this for
> years and an A97 runtime does not clash with a previous installation or
> a future version.  Feel free to tout VB <G>, but don't proclaim that A97
> runtimes break existing installations.
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 2:56 PM
> To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com '
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Distribution - a bit OT
> 
> 
> Paul, the problem you ran into was something that should occur at the
> beginning of a job proposal.  If they don't want Access, you have two
> options.  Sell it to them.  That can be pretty difficult, but it's not
> necessarily impossible.  Explain the benefits, etc.  Two, build it in
> something else.  Personally, I develop a lot of stuff in VB just as fast
> as I would in Access, or at least close.  
> 
> The big clash with Access is solved with VB.  Installing a runtime
> version of Access 97 will definitely clash with a previous installation
> of Access 2k or XP, or any future version.  That gives your Access
> applications a smudge, a special consideration smudge.  Since bound
> applications can be built extremely fast in Access, the development
> expense should outway that issue.
> 
> VB does not have the compatibility issue.  Installing VB 5.0
> applications on a machine that VB 6 applications have no issue, same
> with .Net.  So you can install it and walk away.  The only issue you may
> have is if a future OS does not support VB applications...but that is a
> long time away.  VB can use .mdb's through ADO or DAO, which install on
> their own.  Newer ADO/DAO versions can use previous .mdb versions, so
> that isn't an issue either.
> 
> Drew 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Black
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Sent: 5/31/03 2:59 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] Distribution - a bit OT
> 
> Hi
> 
> I submitted a proposal to a client this week for a custom application.
> Their 
> nose is a bit bent out of shape because they feel they should be able to
> 
> slap a CD in the drive click the install button and the app will install
> in 
> a nice self-contained thing-a-ma-bob (that is what they said).
> 
> Why do we have to have MS Access installed? You don't, I said, I can
> supply 
> a runtime version.
> 
> Why do we have to worry about what version of MS Access is installed 
> already? We did not ask for MS Access, we asked for a custom computer 
> application.
> 
> Why do we have to worry about installing a runtime version on a machine
> with 
> Access already on it and causing all kinds of problems (paraphrased)?
> 
> Plain and simple they want an app that is a DBS management system but
> they 
> want something that is completely autonomous. What do I do? What would
> you 
> do? I may have already lost this deal but need to prepare for the next
> time 
> this happens.
> 
> Do I offer a solution that is all VB or C++ or some such thing or am I 
> missing the boat here. Please help.
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> PB
> 
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Martin WP Reid
Analyst
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Queens University Belfast



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