[AccessD] Slightly OT: Installation protocol

William Hindman wdhindman at bellsouth.net
Tue Mar 18 13:12:00 CST 2003


Message...now, now ...no need to whack him Charlotte ...you can get arrested for child abuse that way ...have patience ...being a toddler among all us old farts, he can hardly avoid being overcome with our emanations and thus compelled to quickly flee back to the pampered safety of his toy box :)

William Hindman
"The tree of liberty only grows when watered by the blood of tyrants. "Bertrand Barère de Vieuzac--a Frenchman

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Charlotte Foust 
  To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 1:44 PM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Installation protocol


  Whippersnapper!!  Watch your mouth or I'll whack you with my cane! <g>

  Charlotte Foust
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] 
    Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 10:32 AM
    To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
    Subject: RE: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Installation protocol


    An infant among old farts maybe! <Very big EVIL grin>

    I'll admit that my only experience with punch cards was when I was in Elementary school, we used them for lunch cards!

    Drew
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
      Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 12:04 PM
      To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
      Subject: RE: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Installation protocol


      Drew is an infant.  I remember when it cost thousands for a *10Mb* hard drive! <vbg>

      Charlotte Foust
        -----Original Message-----
        From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
        Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 9:48 AM
        To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
        Subject: RE: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Installation protocol


        Yea, I know.  OTOH, what is the MINIMUM Access standalone install?

        All of a sudden 20 megs doesn't sound so bad.  And given that you can barely buy a system with less than 20GB, 20 mb also doesn't sound so bad.

        John W. Colby
        Colby Consulting
        www.ColbyConsulting.com 

          -----Original Message-----
          From: accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
          Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 12:40 PM
          To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
          Subject: RE: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Installation protocol


          Only 20 megs....sheesh....remember the days when it cost an arm and a leg for a 20 meg hard drive?  <grin>

          Drew
            -----Original Message-----
            From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
            Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 6:29 AM
            To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
            Subject: RE: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Installation protocol


            Yea, you have a grouse.  It won't get you far though.  Welcome to DLL hell.

            BTW, this is one of the things that .NET is supposed to bring to the table, no more overwriting system DLLs.  Since the runtime for .net is only about 20 megs, you can literally "xcopy" an entire copy of your system, complete with the runtime that you use, into a specific directory and tat is what is used for your app.  You don't overwrite other peoples stuff, they don't overwrite yours.
            John W. Colby
            Colby Consulting
            www.ColbyConsulting.com 

              -----Original Message-----
              From: accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
              Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 7:14 AM
              To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
              Subject: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Installation protocol


              I'd like to know from you who install your VB apps on other people's machines whether it's normal practice to overwrite system dll's that are older than the one you're sending out, without asking or telling? A user here installed a demo which installed a version of oleaut32.dll. Their version was newer but it stll messed up my Access app, specifically where it talked to Outlook. Do I have a grouse?

              --
              Andy Lacey
              http://www.minstersystems.co.uk


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