[AccessD] Slightly OT: Installation protocol

Drew Wutka DWUTKA at marlow.com
Tue Mar 18 15:41:00 CST 2003


Okay, this is starting to get ugly! <grin>
 
Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 1:12 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Installation protocol


...now, now ...no need to whack him Charlotte ...you can get arrested for
child abuse that way ...have patience ...being a toddler among all us old
farts, he can hardly avoid being overcome with our emanations and thus
compelled to quickly flee back to the pampered safety of his toy box :)
 
William Hindman
"The tree of liberty only grows when watered by the blood of tyrants.
"Bertrand Barère de Vieuzac--a Frenchman


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Charlotte Foust <mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com>  
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com <mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com>  
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 1:44 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Installation protocol

Whippersnapper!!  Watch your mouth or I'll whack you with my cane! <g>
 
Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 10:32 AM
To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' <mailto:'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'> 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Installation protocol


An infant among old farts maybe! <Very big EVIL grin>
 
I'll admit that my only experience with punch cards was when I was in
Elementary school, we used them for lunch cards!
 
Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 12:04 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Installation protocol


Drew is an infant.  I remember when it cost thousands for a *10Mb* hard
drive! <vbg>
 
Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 9:48 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Installation protocol


Yea, I know.  OTOH, what is the MINIMUM Access standalone install?
 
All of a sudden 20 megs doesn't sound so bad.  And given that you can barely
buy a system with less than 20GB, 20 mb also doesn't sound so bad.
 

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 12:40 PM
To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Installation protocol


Only 20 megs....sheesh....remember the days when it cost an arm and a leg
for a 20 meg hard drive?  <grin>
 
Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 6:29 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Installation protocol


Yea, you have a grouse.  It won't get you far though.  Welcome to DLL hell.
 
BTW, this is one of the things that .NET is supposed to bring to the table,
no more overwriting system DLLs.  Since the runtime for .net is only about
20 megs, you can literally "xcopy" an entire copy of your system, complete
with the runtime that you use, into a specific directory and tat is what is
used for your app.  You don't overwrite other peoples stuff, they don't
overwrite yours.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 7:14 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Installation protocol


I'd like to know from you who install your VB apps on other people's
machines whether it's normal practice to overwrite system dll's that are
older than the one you're sending out, without asking or telling? A user
here installed a demo which installed a version of oleaut32.dll. Their
version was newer but it stll messed up my Access app, specifically where it
talked to Outlook. Do I have a grouse?

--
Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk


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