[AccessD] Drag and drop files and Emails on form for archive purpose.

Roz Clarke roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk
Tue Mar 25 09:56:25 CST 2003


Did the how-to question get answered? I'm about to write an app for users
who are aldready used to drag/drop archiving from excel (it's in a 3rd party
app) and rather than freak them out with an alternative method I think I'll
have to do it the same way!

Roz

-----Original Message-----
From: Seth Galitzer [mailto:sgsax at ksu.edu] 
Sent: 24 March 2003 23:21
To: accessd
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Drag and drop files and Emails on form for archive
purpose.


The more you can "hide" from the user the better.  It's so much easier to
explain it as "magic" then to try to explain what's really happening.
That's the principle I design all my apps around.  Give them a single button
to click, not a three-step process.  No matter how "easy" the three steps
are, you can bet you'll have a user who can't handle it.  When they call
every other day asking, "How do I do that again," it's much easier to say
"click on the big button," than "just follow the wizard."

Seth

On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 16:49, William Hindman wrote:
> "No matter how "dumbed down" you try to make the process, there will 
> always be a dumber user." Seth
> 
> ...Programming 101 :(((((
> 
> William Hindman
> "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." 
> Edmund Burke
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Seth Galitzer" <sgsax at ksu.edu>
> To: "accessd" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 5:44 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drag and drop files and Emails on form for 
> archive purpose.
> 
> 
> > Drew,
> >
> > You don't know users very well. :)  They don't want to have to think 
> > about it, they just want to do it.  No matter how "dumbed down" you 
> > try to make the process, there will always be a dumber user.  
> > Saying, "copy the file to a folder," makes sense to you or me, but 
> > you can guarantee Joe User will give you a glazed look as soon as 
> > you try to explain why. Of course, Joe User may not understand "drag 
> > the file onto the application" either.  Really, you can't win, but 
> > you can die trying.  :)
> >
> > Seth
> >
> > On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 16:28, Drew Wutka wrote:
> > > Just a thought.  Why not have the users create a folder within 
> > > their
> inbox.
> > > Have them drag emails they want 'recoreded' into that folder.  
> > > Then
> create a
> > > service/routine that just runs through that folder, importing the 
> > > data
> into
> > > access?
> > >
> > > Drew
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Erwin Craps [mailto:Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be]
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 4:10 AM
> > > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
> > > Subject: [AccessD] Drag and drop files and Emails on form for 
> > > archive purpose.
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I already have a archive system for archiving outgooing emails and 
> > > word doucments from an access database. But I need some archiving 
> > > for Incoming correspondence to.
> > >
> > > I believe the only way to achief this is to have a sort of drag 
> > > and drop function. The user should be able to drag a document from 
> > > the explorer or from
> inside
> > > an email but also an e-mail itself to a form in access where a 
> > > specific customer is already selected. This when dropping the 
> > > object o this customer, access will save the
> object
> > > (file/email) in the same format (.DOC, .XLS, .MSG) and creating a
> customer
> > > related record with the filename into the archive table.
> > >
> > > What I'm basicly asking for is some easy or advanced code to see 
> > > how the drag and drop works between Outlook/Explorer and Access 
> > > and how I need
> to
> > > save the object to disk in its original format (.DOC, .MSG, .XLS,
> etc...).
> > >
> > > The document archiving system I already have, but I never used a 
> > > drag
> and
> > > drop functionality...
> > >
> > > Thx
> > >
> > > Erwin.
> > >
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Seth Galitzer			sgsax at ksu.edu
Computing Specialist		http://puma.agron.ksu.edu/~sgsax
Dept. of Plant Pathology
Kansas State University

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