Drew Wutka
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Fri Mar 28 14:08:17 CST 2003
That is pretty funny. In the Navy, there are a few 'enlisted' rates E-3 and below (E-4 and above are called by their specialty, such as Machinist Mate, or Electricians Mate, etc.). E-3's and below are Firemen, Seamen, or Airmen. (Based on the job they are in. Mechanics and machinists are firemen, electricians and cooks are seamen, and guys that work on the planes are airmen). I knew an electrian who's last name was Seamen. (Seamen Seamen.....talk about the ribbing he got!) Drew -----Original Message----- From: Hollis,Virginia [mailto:HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 12:34 PM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Blacksburg Ok, this way OT, but had to share... When we were first married my husband was stationed in Norfolk, Va. I was making a collect call to my parents when the operator asked me my name, I told her, "Virginia", we got into a big tadoo because she kept insisting for my name, not the state. I use to joke about having the address: Virginia Virginia Beach Blvd Virginia Beach, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: Chris Mackin [mailto:chris at denverdb.com] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 12:15 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Blacksburg How interesting, You answered you're own question with your name, Blacksburg is in Virginia, it's the home of Virginia Tech. Chris Mackin Denver Database Consulting, LLC www.denverdb.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hollis,Virginia Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:02 AM To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: Re[2]: [AccessD] OT:Building your business was... Rate for firsttime I am in the Mid West, but the company is in the East. Thank you, I will do that - 50.00 it is. I guess everyone felt like this their first time. Curious - where is Blacksburg? Virginia -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:41 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: Re[2]: [AccessD] OT:Building your business was... Rate for firsttime Virginia, I don't know whether you are in a high cost area near DC, or a lower cost area such as Blacksburg, but I suggest starting at $50 or higher, not $25-35. Even in Blacksburg $25 an hour seems cheap for somebody with your experience. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Hollis,Virginia [mailto:HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com] Sent: Friday 2003 Mar 28 11:28 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: Re[2]: [AccessD] OT:Building your business was... Rate for firsttime Well, I don't make anywhere even near 40K a year. That is very interesting to know, how underpayed I really am and what they are getting for next to nothing :-(. I have a degree and some experience - so I fit somewhere in between, I do not have the experience most have on the list. My databases all turn out to be very similar. I am going to do the job as a contractor, it will be nights & weekends. Still need to discuss the pay with the company - this has been a big help. I especially liked the (Virgin comment & I am "cheap" LOL) I really got a good laugh out of that :-). When I got my personalized license plates I wanted my name on the plate - well Virginia was too many characters - sure didn't want to abbreviate and use "Virgin". Anyway, this is a big step for me. Like Ron, there is always that worry of messing up or running into a problem I can't solve. It is different developing where I work full time, I am here to fix the problems or even add new features the user wants. Still undecided on the fee - thinking somewhere in the 25-35 range or a bit higher for negotiating purposes, sure not 10.00! Like someone suggested, start high & negotiate from there. Virginia _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com