[AccessD] Internationalization, Unicode and Character Sets

Hi Kostas:

It is good to hear that I am not the only one 'caught' by this issue. As the
world becomes more connected, individuals that have been able to master
systems in multiple language and not just the extended ASCII versions, will
become in higher demand. Unfortunately there are no books (that I am aware
of) and very few people who have either the time or deep-enough-pockets to
become skilled in this converging art form.

Is anyone out there that is a UTF-8 expert? ...there is plenty of
opportunities to pick the ball on new and abandoned projects.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Kostas
Konstantinidis
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 10:48 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Internationalization, Unicode and Character Sets


HI Jim,
I am very happy hearing someone to describe a problem that I had some months
ago....
The difference between us was that I tried hardly  to do the same for a
client in both Greek and Arabic....
I will never again take any job like this....

Be well
Kostas

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Lawrence (AccessD)" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 9:13 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Internationalization, Unicode and Character Sets


> Hi Gustav:
>
> <rant mode on>
> Eight months ago, I was brought into a project that required English and
> Japanese. In addition to this the client had kindly bought a full shopping
> cart and affiliate program written in Perl. My job was simply to design
the
> graphical front-end for a web site. The front end was fairly simple but
> attention had to be paid to the back-end.
>
> We had difficulty getting the ISP to upgrade to Perl version 5.x, so that
it
> would recognize encoding. The package was finally completed but for one
> outstanding set of issues. The designer of the Perl code did not use a SQL
> back-end but some kind of flat-base filing system. English worked fine but
> there was no way I could get the Japanese to work, period. None of the
Perl
> sorting or importing routines worked right, not without a complete
re-write.
>
> The current project is now on hold. We did finally move the project to a
PHP
> and SQL back-end arrangement. No-one I know can get the thing resurrected,
> it is so far over budget and I am simply out of time and patience.
>
> In the future, when someone comes to me with a UTF-8 project the price
will
> be triple and that will be after I have under gone a complete mental
> examination.
> <rant mode off>
>
> ...and that is my two cents worth.
> Jim
>
> PS That is a great article/site on Unicode and character sets. :-)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
> Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 2:07 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Internationalization, Unicode and Character Sets
>
>
> Hi all
>
> Joel Spolsky has some comments on PHP, internationalization, Unicode
> and character sets.
>
> /gustav
>
> ---
>
> From: Joel On Software <fogcreek at whatcounts.com>
> Date: Saturday, October 11, 2003, 1:47:53 AM
> Subject: [JoelOnSoftware] Unicode and Character Sets
>
> When I discovered that the popular web development tool PHP
> has almost complete ignorance of character encoding issues,
> blithely using 8 bits for characters, making it darn near
> impossible to develop good international web applications,
> I thought, enough is enough.
>
> So I have an announcement to make: if you are a programmer
> working in 2003 and you don't know the basics of characters,
> character sets, encodings, and Unicode, and I catch you, I'm
> going to punish you by making you peel onions for 6 months in
> a submarine. I swear I will.
>
>  The Absolute Minimum Every Software Developer
>  Absolutely, Positively Must Know About Unicode and
>  Character Sets (No Excuses!)
>
>  http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/Unicode.html
>
> Joel Spolsky
> spolsky at fogcreek.com
>
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