[AccessD] OT - Spam Blocker

John Colby jcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Mon Oct 20 10:48:52 CDT 2003


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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 8:42 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT - Spam Blocker


So where does one get one of these filters for Outlook Express?

Rocky

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Lawrence (AccessD)" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 11:03 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - Spam Blocker


> Yes, I concur John.
>
> I was recently introduced to the new Mozilla Bayesian filter and was
totally
> impressed especially that it actually learns your preferences and
> tolerences, similar to a netural net...it actually learns as it goes from
> your selections and rejections  over time. A friend has been using one for
> over a year now. He has been directing all the spam to a spam directory
just
> in case it filtered some important documents. In the last month or so he
> says it has been doing the filtering with one hundred percent accuracy but
> he said it tooks months before the filter was properly fine-tune.
>
> I will be using the Bayesian spam filter for sure.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John Colby
> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 9:51 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - Spam Blocker
>
>
> For my money it is still helpful to place the spam in a separate folder
for
> scanning.  It just seems easier to look at a page of messages about loans,
> pills and penis patches and pick out the one good message.  And believe
me,
> Bayesian filters are VERY good at deciding that something is spam.
>
> I use Outlook filters to further classify my email, sorting things into
> folders.  Newsletters, AccessD messages, stuff from friends and relatives
> etc.  Train the Bayesian filter on ONE EACH of these messages and it's
good
> to go.  I guess it decides that the address is good or something, not sure
> really.  So the spam goes into the spam bucket and really is spam, VERY
> occasional "not sure" (and you can play with the numbers to decide the %
is
> tagged not sure), and whatever is left in the inbox after spam filtering
and
> my rules is also about 50% spam, though these amount to 1 or 2 a day.
>
> Until someone on the list turned me on to Bayesian filters I wasn't
> convinced, but they really do work.  This C%oc&k crap gets shoveled right
> out as spam.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.colbyconsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stuart Sanders
> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 12:14 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - Spam Blocker
>
>
> My main problem with anti-spam stuff is the 99% accuracy issue.  What if
the
> 1%
> it filters happens to be an urgent email I need.  So in order to prevent
> losing
> such an email, I still have to scan down the list of filtered junk.  If
> that's
> the case, then why bother at all.  So I've ended up just scanning down my
> inbox
> and ctrl clicking each spam and hitting delete.
>
> A couple of things that can help if you are not already too inundated or
> have a
> new email.
> - *never* put your email as a link on your website.  Robots wind their way
> around the internet looking at websites to harvest email addresses off.
Use
> either a graphical image of your email address or use a web based form for
> receiving enquiries
> - checking out a new site and it requires registration then use a throw
away
> address.  I use a yahoo email address for this
>
> Probably many other tips users of DBA lists could come up with.  Maybe
> someone
> can write up a summary and create a spam help page on the DBA site.
>
> Stuart
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> > William Hindman
> > Sent: Monday, 20 October, 2003 4:39 AM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT - Spam Blocker
> >
> >
> > ...I mostly use hotmail and have several filters set there
> > ...but hotmail
> > also frequently routes good mail it can't classify into its
> > "bulk mail"
> > catchall so I still have to scan it ...plus, there are lots
> > of spam scams
> > that hotmail isn't sophisticated enough to catch such as
> > B-I-G D-I-*-K, etc
> > :(((((
> >
> > William Hindman
> > So, then, to every man his chance -- to every man, regardless
> > of his birth,
> > his shining golden opportunity -- to every man his right to
> > live, to work,
> > to be himself, to become whatever his manhood and his vision
> > can combine to
> > make him -- this, seeker, is the promise of America.
> > -- Thomas Wolfe
>
>
>
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