Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
bchacc at san.rr.com
Fri Oct 31 18:53:01 CST 2003
O. What's a subnet? And where do I get one? And do I want one? Rocky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Drew Wutka" <DWUTKA at marlow.com> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 9:20 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Wireless network (sort of) > Yes, a switch is used to connect computers on the same subnet. A router is > used to connect subnets together. A router is usually also a switch, so it > can connect computers on the same subnet, AND connect one subnet to another. > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 9:20 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Wireless network (sort of) > > > Is there a difference between a switch and a router? > > Rocky > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frank Tanner III" <pctech at mybellybutton.com> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 6:54 AM > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Wireless network (sort of) > > > > I recommend "hardwiring" the IP address of any device > > or server connected to your LAN that's not a > > workstation and is virtually always on. > > > > For the price, I would also highly recommend removing > > all hubs from your network and using them as > > doorstops. Switches have come way down in price and > > have many benifits over hubs. > > > > Hubs divide the bandwidth across all ports. Thus if > > you have an 8-port 10-BaseT hub, all ports that are > > processing data split that 10Mbit. A switch, each > > port gets the fill bandwidth. > > > > That's not including the security issues inherent with > > hubs as they broadcast all available data to all > > available ports rather than to the proper destination > > port. > > > > --- John Colby <jcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote: > > > Yes, you can indeed daisy chain routers and > > > SUPPOSEDLY hubs, though I had no > > > joy doing that with my old hub. I am however daisy > > > chaining my old 4 port > > > router off of my new 4 port wireless router. The > > > newer models even figure > > > out what kind of cable you are using, crossover or > > > regular. The biggest > > > issue there was that the router was the dhcp server > > > so I had to turn off the > > > old as a dhcp server and turn on the new. I also > > > hardwired the address of > > > the old router to 192.168.1.2. Daisy Chaining two 4 > > > port routers isn't a > > > panacea however since you now end up using two ports > > > just for the daisy > > > chain and have 6 left. In my case though I also > > > have a wireless so I can > > > get my laptop in through that and could also get > > > other computers in if > > > needed. > > > > > > I have an old model I TIVO which I modded to use the > > > internet to "call in" > > > for programming. I had to snake a cable down the > > > wall from the living room > > > (luckily exactly over my office in the basement). I > > > understand that the > > > model II has USB ports that can automatically use > > > the USB wireless cards to > > > connect to the internet. > > > > > > John W. Colby > > > www.colbyconsulting.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On > > > Behalf Of Rocky Smolin - > > > Beach Access Software > > > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 8:33 AM > > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Wireless network (sort > > > of) > > > > > > > > > John: > > > > > > I heard that you can daisy chain hubs off one of the > > > ports on your router to > > > get more ports and that you can go up to 255 devices > > > from one router this > > > way. Seems to easy and cheap, though. > > > > > > I've also found that when creating a new network it > > > sometimes takes a few > > > minutes for the different shared devices to 'see' > > > each other - especially on > > > the wireless. So I'll whang around frustrated > > > trying to get the network to > > > work and then have the same experience you had - > > > after a few minutes, > > > suddenly the other machines are in my network > > > neighborhood. Go figure. > > > > > > Rocky > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "John Colby" <jcolby at colbyconsulting.com> > > > To: "Database Advisors Inc. (Tech)" > > > <Dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com>; > > > "AccessD" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 5:39 PM > > > Subject: [AccessD] OT: Wireless network (sort of) > > > > > > > > > > I ordered a Netgear MR814v2 Wireless router a > > > couple of weeks ago. I > > > needed > > > > to expand my 4 port router (I had 5 things I kept > > > needing to plug in) and > > > > the Netgear was on sale at www.Newegg.com at the > > > time. I then tried and > > > > failed to install a linksys WPC11v2.5 I had laying > > > around, so I ordered a > > > > dlink dwl-650 that was on sale (rebate) at > > > www.newegg.com. Long story > > > > short, it didn't work. Long story a little > > > longer, a very long call to > > > > dlink tech support, did not solve the problem. > > > > > > > > Or maaaaaybe it did. After failing to figure > > > anything out, they > > > recommended > > > > that I upgrade my laptop bios. It's an ancient > > > (now) 233mhz PII Toshiba > > > > Satellite 4000 that I bought with my first > > > paycheck from my trip to work > > > for > > > > Mr. Breen in Dublin Ireland back in hmmm..... > > > November 1997? Getting a > > > bit > > > > long in the tooth, truth be told. > > > > > > > > The bios upgrade and also the old "turn off NAV > > > before installing etc. > > > And > > > > "oh by the way, our card requires at least a 300 > > > mhz processor. So I > > > > uninstalled, upgraded to the latest bios (May > > > 2000?), turned off NAV, > > > > reinstalled the drivers and re-installed the card. > > > Still no joy. The > > > site > > > > survey showed no transmitters, and dlink tech > > > support assured me that if > > > > there was a transmitter I would see it regardless. > > > > > > > > Ignorant liars! > > > > > > > > Went back in and reconfigured the card in the > > > laptop for channel 11 (it > > > > defaulted to 3 and the router was on 11), played > > > around with a couple of > > > > other things and boom, I see a transmitter. Went > > > in to the router config > > > > page and changed the SSID and sure enough the > > > thing I'm seeing on the > > > laptop > > > > changes to match! Still no connection though. > > > > > > > > Rebooted, played around some more and suddenly (no > > > clear idea why) I have > > > a > > > > wireless connection, can browse my network and see > > > the web. Yeaaaaa. > > > > > > > > Moral of the story, tech support generally sucks, > > > play around, don't quit, > > > > and eventually the gods will reward you. Or not. > > > > > > > > Now, I need to know what to do to tighten this > > > thing up so that others > > > can't > > > > see my network. I'm a bit afraid to touch > > > anything since I don't really > > > > know what I did to finally get it running. > > > > > > > > Can anyone walk me through tightening this up? > > > > > > > > John W. 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