[AccessD] OT- I am a lucky winner??

David McAfee DMcAfee at haascnc.com
Fri Sep 26 13:24:21 CDT 2003


I use my debit card for online and telephone purchases. Whenever I use it, they ask for the 3 digit number on the back of the card, NEVER the pin. I would never give my pin out to anyone...especially my kid :)

D

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 10:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT- I am a lucky winner??


When I renewed my credit card the other day, they asked me for a PIN number
over the phone. I didn't like that at all.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Allen [mailto:chizotz at charter.net]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 11:41 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT- I am a lucky winner??


Hi Jarad,

Please don't take this personally, but I can't let this go 
by without comment.

<rant>
Why are there so many people who seem, at least, to take 
delight in pointing out completely insignificant and 
irrelevent flaws in other peoples statements? What purpose 
does this serve, other than possibly to make the person 
pointing out the flaw feel somehow superior?

Yes, the bank, in the form of most of its employees, does 
not need to know your PIN. Of course, this is obvious. But 
the bank computers _do_ have to know your PIN for your ATM 
and debit cards to work. This is also obvious. As everyone 
on this list knows, those who work in the banks IT 
department almost certainly has access to the PIN data. So 
no matter how you cut it, the bank knows your PIN, period.

The point is, who cares? What possible difference does it 
make to the discussion? Everyone with any common sense at 
all understood exactly what I meant, and what I said was 
valid. What was the reason for making that observation? It 
seems pretty damn pointless, not to mention ridiculously 
petty, to me.

</rant>

We now return you to your regularly scheduled Friday OT 
and maybe even business related discussions.

Ron



On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 11:27:55 -0500
  "Huffman, Jarad B." <jbhuffman at mdh.org> wrote:
>Actually, most banks don't even know your PIN.  They 
>don't need to.  If you
>forget it, they will reset it.  
>
>Jarad Huffman
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