From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Thu Apr  1 00:38:38 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:38:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Form_KeyPress doesn't fire?
Message-ID: <20040401063838.56096.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi group,
 
i've got some code in the form_keypress event. When does this fire? It doesn't fire while in a control, focus on the form ?!?! What am I missing.
 
Private Sub Form_KeyPress(KeyAscii As Integer)
   MsgBox "hello world"
   frmKAM_ProcesKey (KeyAscii)
End Sub
 
When a user presses the keys [pagedown] or [pageup] while he is editing a record, the record is automaticly saved. I don't want this to happen. That's the KeyPress is for, isn't it?
 
TIA
 
Sander
 
PS: I also tried putting it in KeyDown.
PS2: Guess who added Hello world :-)


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From kathryn at bassett.net  Thu Apr  1 00:39:37 2004
From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:39:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] "See ya" in a few days
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr  1 02:51:31 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 18:51:31 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Form_KeyPress doesn't fire?
In-Reply-To: <20040401063838.56096.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <406C64B3.27644.97AB35@localhost>

On 31 Mar 2004 at 22:38, S D wrote:

> Hi group, i've got some code in the form_keypress event. When does this
> fire? It doesn't fire while in a control, focus on the form ?!?! What
> am I missing. 

Have you set KeyPreview true?


 
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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Thu Apr  1 03:09:26 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 01:09:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Form_KeyPress doesn't fire? SOLVED
In-Reply-To: <406C64B3.27644.97AB35@localhost>
Message-ID: <20040401090926.55775.qmail@web61103.mail.yahoo.com>

Stuart,
 
thnx for the reply. However the problem is solved via a procedure....
I was working on a change and noticed the mentioned problem. However the original programmer instructed the users NOT to use that key. Furthermore I'm not allowed to put any effort in (on/up/at?) it.
 
Thnx again.
 
Regards
 
Sander


Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:
On 31 Mar 2004 at 22:38, S D wrote:

> Hi group, i've got some code in the form_keypress event. When does this
> fire? It doesn't fire while in a control, focus on the form ?!?! What
> am I missing. 

Have you set KeyPreview true?



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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Thu Apr  1 03:23:13 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 01:23:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?
Message-ID: <20040401092313.14263.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi group,
 
when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data of the current record to be displayed in the new record.
So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA and then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear with the field username filled with AAA.
 
I know that this can be done using Bookmark or something but I cannot find it anymore. Tips/hints anyone?
 
TIA
 
Sander


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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Thu Apr  1 03:34:08 2004
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Thu,  1 Apr 2004 11:34:08 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?
Message-ID: <1032098.1080812048448.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>

Sander, 
An easy way to do this would be to create a public variable(s) to store the data of the current record then when they click the New Record populate the fields with the data from the public variable(s)
Paul





Message date : Apr 01 2004, 10:25 AM
>From : "S D" 
To : "accessd" 
Copy to : 
Subject : [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?
Hi group,

when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data of the current record to be displayed in the new record.
So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA and then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear with the field username filled with AAA.

I know that this can be done using Bookmark or something but I cannot find it anymore. Tips/hints anyone?

TIA

Sander


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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr  1 03:37:44 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 11:37:44 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?
In-Reply-To: <20040401092313.14263.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20040401092313.14263.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2310242047.20040401113744@cactus.dk>

Hi Sander

Tough day? No coffee?

Set the DefaultValue at OnCurrent.

As for Stuart's note on the KeyPreview, it's not a user feature, but a
property of the form.

/gustav

> when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data of the current record to be displayed in the new record.
> So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA and then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear with the field username filled with AAA.



From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Thu Apr  1 04:23:45 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 02:23:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?
	SOLVED
In-Reply-To: <2310242047.20040401113744@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20040401102345.83772.qmail@web61110.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Gustav,
Coffee? Plenty!
Tough day...oi!
 
MS-Development team of 5, 4 people are ill....guess who's not.... ;-)
 
Sander

Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
Hi Sander

Tough day? No coffee?

Set the DefaultValue at OnCurrent.

As for Stuart's note on the KeyPreview, it's not a user feature, but a
property of the form.

/gustav

> when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data of the current record to be displayed in the new record.
> So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA and then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear with the field username filled with AAA.

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From rsmethurst at UK.EY.COM  Thu Apr  1 04:32:07 2004
From: rsmethurst at UK.EY.COM (rsmethurst at UK.EY.COM)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 11:32:07 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Copy Chart
Message-ID: <OF6EA7C9D6.0C3E4CB7-ON80256E69.0039C145-80256E69.0039ED5D@ey.net>

HI All,

I have a Chart object on a Form.  I would like to allow users to copy the 
object, but not be able to cut it?

At the moment I have completely disabled the shortcut menu, but this is 
flexible.

Does anyone have any ideas how to do this?

TIS
Ryan
 

  
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Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 12:04:00 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Copy Chart
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Managed to get it sorted..thanks anyway.

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From chris at thecube.net  Thu Apr  1 05:26:02 2004
From: chris at thecube.net (chris at thecube.net)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 06:26:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access to SQL Server
Message-ID: <7C4579FC1624452FBF36DAF8E7684B70.MAI@freeparking.com>

Martin,

I have recently tried to convert a stressed (concurrency wise) access97 back end to SQL server,
data conversion went smoothly, apart from rectifying memo field corruption in one table.

The forms worked fine and ignored the fact that i had swapped the access linked tables for ODBC
links to the SQL server. The problem came when i was opening recordsets and it was asking for
bizarre parameters, (dbSeeChanges)

For purity i love SQL server database power and stored procedures and the extras like getting the
database to back itself up nightly, and would not hesitate to convert access databases to SQL or
MSDE (is it still called MSDE?)

It's just convincing the client that a 1 gig access backend is 'pushing it' <g>

Regards

Chris

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From: Martin Reid
To:  "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 21:49:03 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Access to SQL Server

If your employer/customer asked you to move all your Access databases onto a
central SQL Server what problems other than code rewrite would you bring up?

What would stop you doing this or maybe think twice before starting?

I am working on a project which looks at moving all of an organisations
databases to SQL Server over a period of time. This is not a real project
but we are trying to see how developers would react to the possibility. I am
really interested in the view point of the actual people who may have to do
this.

One of the areas I am looking at is performance and issues surrounding
redesign. for example at the university we have many small Access dbs which
duplicate student data. It would be fairly easy to remove this duplication
by moving them to SQL Server and linking to a core set of data making it
very easy for us to mange this type of installation.

Comments.opinions etc appreciated


Martin

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr  1 05:30:57 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 21:30:57 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
	data?	SOLVED
In-Reply-To: <20040401102345.83772.qmail@web61110.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <2310242047.20040401113744@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <406C8A11.27876.129A13C@localhost>

On 1 Apr 2004 at 2:23, S D wrote:

> Hi Gustav,
> Coffee? Plenty!
> Tough day...oi!
>  
> MS-Development team of 5, 4 people are ill....guess who's not.... ;-)
>  

You're lucky. MS Development team of one.

Coughing, sneezing, aching muscles, high temperature and deadlines looming on a 
couple of projects :-(
 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr  1 05:35:13 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 21:35:13 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?
In-Reply-To: <20040401092313.14263.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <406C8B11.7322.12D87B6@localhost>

On 1 Apr 2004 at 1:23, S D wrote:

> Hi group,
>  
> when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data of the current record to be displayed in the new record.
> So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA and then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear with the field username filled with AAA.
>  
> I know that this can be done using Bookmark or something but I cannot find it anymore. Tips/hints anyone?
>  

One of several ways:
Create a system variable Username() (which you can populate on startup or when the 
first record is saved) and set the default of the field to "=Username()"

In fact if I want to record usernames on data entry,  I generally use this technique and 
hide the username field so that they can't alter it.





 
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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Thu Apr  1 05:58:49 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 03:58:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?
	SOLVED
In-Reply-To: <406C8A11.27876.129A13C@localhost>
Message-ID: <20040401115849.7339.qmail@web61101.mail.yahoo.com>

We're doing mostly 'maintenace' (don't know the English word for this) for over 100 apps...not counting Excel -'tjoep' :-)

Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:On 1 Apr 2004 at 2:23, S D wrote:

> Hi Gustav,
> Coffee? Plenty!
> Tough day...oi!
> 
> MS-Development team of 5, 4 people are ill....guess who's not.... ;-)
> 

You're lucky. MS Development team of one.

Coughing, sneezing, aching muscles, high temperature and deadlines looming on a 
couple of projects :-(

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From jarus at amerinet-gpo.com  Thu Apr  1 06:24:53 2004
From: jarus at amerinet-gpo.com (Terri Jarus)
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 06:24:53 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports
Message-ID: <s06bb5ba.026@an-mail.amerinet-gpo.com>

There's some good code for doing this at the following website:
 
http://www.lebans.com/PrintLines.htm
 
Hope this helps.
 
 
 
Terri Jarus
Director, Contract Support Services
jarus at amerinet-gpo.com
314-542-1902

>>> deanellis at iprimus.com.au 03/31/04 03:42PM >>>
Hi All,

I have an interesting dilema with regards to my reports. I want to place a
verticl line down each side of my report to simulate the data in some large
frames. I can set the line height to match the distance between two
horizontal lines. But here's the catch. Between the two horizonatl lines are
a number of feilds that are set to "Can Grow". When the text is placed in
here, and the feild grows too much, there is a gap between the bottom
horizontal line and the vertical lines.

Any suggestions?

Cheers

Dean


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From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Thu Apr  1 06:53:00 2004
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 07:53:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?
References: <20040401092313.14263.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>
	<2310242047.20040401113744@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <406C10AC.7000509@torchlake.com>

Gustav,
How does one set the DefautlValue at OnCurrent?  I don't know how to do 
that.
Thanks,
Tina

Gustav Brock wrote:

>Hi Sander
>
>Tough day? No coffee?
>
>Set the DefaultValue at OnCurrent.
>
>As for Stuart's note on the KeyPreview, it's not a user feature, but a
>property of the form.
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data of the current record to be displayed in the new record.
>>So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA and then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear with the field username filled with AAA.
>>    
>>
>
>  
>




From thevigil at kabelfoon.nl  Thu Apr  1 07:16:23 2004
From: thevigil at kabelfoon.nl (Bert-Jan Brinkhuis)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 15:16:23 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports
References: <s06bb5ba.026@an-mail.amerinet-gpo.com>
Message-ID: <005401c417eb$8e429c60$3f412d3e@jester>

in the detail_format event you can use me.line to draw a line.
For the specific format see help (i do not have access installed on the PC i
email on)

HTH

Bert-Jan

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To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports


There's some good code for doing this at the following website:

http://www.lebans.com/PrintLines.htm

Hope this helps.



Terri Jarus
Director, Contract Support Services
jarus at amerinet-gpo.com
314-542-1902

>>> deanellis at iprimus.com.au 03/31/04 03:42PM >>>
Hi All,

I have an interesting dilema with regards to my reports. I want to place a
verticl line down each side of my report to simulate the data in some large
frames. I can set the line height to match the distance between two
horizontal lines. But here's the catch. Between the two horizonatl lines are
a number of feilds that are set to "Can Grow". When the text is placed in
here, and the feild grows too much, there is a gap between the bottom
horizontal line and the vertical lines.

Any suggestions?

Cheers

Dean


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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr  1 07:29:57 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 15:29:57 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?
In-Reply-To: <406C10AC.7000509@torchlake.com>
References: <20040401092313.14263.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>
	<2310242047.20040401113744@cactus.dk> <406C10AC.7000509@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <15824175682.20040401152957@cactus.dk>

Hi Tina

> How does one set the DefautlValue at OnCurrent?  I don't know how to do
> that.

That's not difficult - something like this:

  Dim txt As TextBox
  Set txt = Me!txtYourTextBox

  txt.DefaultValue = txt.Value

  Set txt = Nothing

However, DefaultValue should be a string which means that if your
textbox contains decimals or a date/time value you must be careful and
convert to a string in US format:

  txt.DefaultValue = LTrim(Str(txt.Value))

or

  txt.DefaultValue = _
    Format(txt.Value, "\#mm\/dd\/yyyy hh\:nn\:ss AM/PM\#")

/gustav


>>Tough day? No coffee?
>>
>>Set the DefaultValue at OnCurrent.
>>
>>As for Stuart's note on the KeyPreview, it's not a user feature, but a
>>property of the form.
>>
>>/gustav

>>>when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data of the current record to be displayed in the new record.
>>>So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA and then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear with the field username filled with AAA.



From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Thu Apr  1 07:53:57 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 05:53:57 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Create table script...so close...
Message-ID: <20040401135357.58096.qmail@web61103.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi group,
 
I need to create tables using the layout specified in a certain table. I found the SUB below on msdn.microsoft.com. Changed it a bit and voila the tables are created! HOWEVER, when i specify TEXT the darn thing creates MEMO fields?!? Qua Pasa?
 
Does anybody know how to change this so that I get proper text fields?
BTW: arrFileLayout(y, 6) contains the field type (=TEXT)
BTW2: I also used the actual word TEXT.
 
TIA,
 
Sander
 
Sub CreateTableX1(ByRef arrFileLayout())
   Dim dbs As ADODB.Connection   ' Database
   Dim y As Integer
   Dim strCreateTable As String
   Dim strCreate As String
   Dim strFields As String
   
   Set dbs = CurrentProject.Connection()
   ' Create a table with two text fields.
   strCreate = "CREATE TABLE ThisTable "
   For y = 0 To UBound(arrFileLayout, 1)
      'Debug.Print (arrFileLayout(y, 0))
      strFields = strFields & arrFileLayout(y, 0) & arrFileLayout(y, 6) & ","
   Next y
   
   'remove last ,
   strFields = Mid(strFields, 1, Len(strFields) - 1)
   Debug.Print strFields

   'Build sql
   strCreateTable = strCreate & "(" & strFields & ")"
   Debug.Print strCreateTable

   'execute the blody thing
   dbs.Execute strCreateTable
 
   dbs.Close
End Sub






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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Thu Apr  1 08:14:51 2004
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Thu,  1 Apr 2004 16:14:51 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] Create table script...so close...
Message-ID: <4435274.1080828891183.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>

Just a thought have you tried dbText instead:
arrFileLayout(y, 6) contains the field type (=dbText)
Paul






Message date : Apr 01 2004, 02:57 PM
>From : "S D" 
To : "accessd" 
Copy to : 
Subject : [AccessD] Create table script...so close...
Hi group,

I need to create tables using the layout specified in a certain table. I found the SUB below on msdn.microsoft.com. Changed it a bit and voila the tables are created! HOWEVER, when i specify TEXT the darn thing creates MEMO fields?!? Qua Pasa?

Does anybody know how to change this so that I get proper text fields?
BTW: arrFileLayout(y, 6) contains the field type (=TEXT)
BTW2: I also used the actual word TEXT.

TIA,

Sander

Sub CreateTableX1(ByRef arrFileLayout())
Dim dbs As ADODB.Connection ' Database
Dim y As Integer
Dim strCreateTable As String
Dim strCreate As String
Dim strFields As String

Set dbs = CurrentProject.Connection()
' Create a table with two text fields.
strCreate = "CREATE TABLE ThisTable "
For y = 0 To UBound(arrFileLayout, 1)
'Debug.Print (arrFileLayout(y, 0))
strFields = strFields & arrFileLayout(y, 0) & arrFileLayout(y, 6) & ","
Next y

'remove last ,
strFields = Mid(strFields, 1, Len(strFields) - 1)
Debug.Print strFields

'Build sql
strCreateTable = strCreate & "(" & strFields & ")"
Debug.Print strCreateTable

'execute the blody thing
dbs.Execute strCreateTable

dbs.Close
End Sub






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From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Thu Apr  1 08:21:24 2004
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 09:21:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?
References: <20040401092313.14263.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>	<2310242047.20040401113744@cactus.dk>
	<406C10AC.7000509@torchlake.com>
	<15824175682.20040401152957@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <406C2564.1000708@torchlake.com>

Hi Gustav,

I begin to understand.  At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event 
Procedure will set the DefaultValue of each TextBox to the values 
determined to already be stored in the record just saved.  Is that 
correct?  Does this require explicitly listing each TextBox of the form?   

Thanks,
Tinz

Gustav Brock wrote:

>Hi Tina
>
>  
>
>>How does one set the DefautlValue at OnCurrent?  I don't know how to do
>>that.
>>    
>>
>
>That's not difficult - something like this:
>
>  Dim txt As TextBox
>  Set txt = Me!txtYourTextBox
>
>  txt.DefaultValue = txt.Value
>
>  Set txt = Nothing
>
>However, DefaultValue should be a string which means that if your
>textbox contains decimals or a date/time value you must be careful and
>convert to a string in US format:
>
>  txt.DefaultValue = LTrim(Str(txt.Value))
>
>or
>
>  txt.DefaultValue = _
>    Format(txt.Value, "\#mm\/dd\/yyyy hh\:nn\:ss AM/PM\#")
>
>/gustav
>
>
>  
>
>>>Tough day? No coffee?
>>>
>>>Set the DefaultValue at OnCurrent.
>>>
>>>As for Stuart's note on the KeyPreview, it's not a user feature, but a
>>>property of the form.
>>>
>>>/gustav
>>>      
>>>
>
>  
>
>>>>when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data of the current record to be displayed in the new record.
>>>>So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA and then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear with the field username filled with AAA.
>>>>        
>>>>
>
>  
>




From sgeller at cce.umn.edu  Thu Apr  1 08:30:45 2004
From: sgeller at cce.umn.edu (Susan Geller)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 08:30:45 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Default Printer for Access Report
Message-ID: <CD6E25A7E2F6734FA126AED83B9D54FB01C759A5@is~ccemail2.cce.local>

Thanks, Doris, that was the problem.  I'm wondering if, as a fail safe
measure, can I write code that would make sure that when that Printer
Dialogue box opens it is always set to go to the default printer?  I'd
want users to be able to pick a different option if they desired, but
just as the default, that the print box would be set to go to the
default printer.  Where would I put the code?

--Susan


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 12:03 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Default Printer for Access Report

Open that report in design view and then click on "File" and choose
"Page
Setup".  It is possible it get set accidentally when the report was
designed.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Geller
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 12:28 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Default Printer for Access Report


I have a reporting tool built in Access (2002) that is essentially a
wizard
where users pick a report, set criteria and then see their output.
There
are nearly 100 reports in the app.  When a user choses to print a
report,
the default printer that comes up in the print dialog box is the default
printer set on their machine, EXCEPT for one of the reports.  On that
one
report only, the default printer that comes up in the dialogue box is a
different printer.  All users get this different printer.  I did not
write
any code or make any settings to indicate printer choice.  What could be
happening?  How can I get this one report to print to the user's default
printer?

Note:  The only way that users can print a report is with a toolbar
PRINT
button that I brings up the dialogue box.  There is no file menu from
the
reports and there is no button with a printer icon that sends reports
straight to the printer.

--Susan



Susan B. Geller
Office of Information Systems
College of Continuing Education
University of Minnesota
306 Wesbrook Hall
77 Pleasant Street SE
Minneapolis, MN 55455
Phone:  612-626-4785
Fax:  612-625-2568


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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr  1 08:36:29 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 16:36:29 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?
In-Reply-To: <406C2564.1000708@torchlake.com>
References: <20040401092313.14263.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>
	<2310242047.20040401113744@cactus.dk> <406C10AC.7000509@torchlake.com>
	<15824175682.20040401152957@cactus.dk> <406C2564.1000708@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <18028167422.20040401163629@cactus.dk>

Hi Tina

> I begin to understand.  At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event
> Procedure will set the DefaultValue of each TextBox to the values 
> determined to already be stored in the record just saved.  Is that 
> correct?

Yes and no. No saving needs to take place:

At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event Procedure will set the
DefaultValue of each TextBox (or ComboBox etc.) to the values for the
current record of those controls.

> Does this require explicitly listing each TextBox of the form?

Yes.

/gustav


>>>How does one set the DefautlValue at OnCurrent?  I don't know how to do
>>>that.
>>
>>That's not difficult - something like this:
>>
>>  Dim txt As TextBox
>>  Set txt = Me!txtYourTextBox
>>
>>  txt.DefaultValue = txt.Value
>>
>>  Set txt = Nothing
>>
>>However, DefaultValue should be a string which means that if your
>>textbox contains decimals or a date/time value you must be careful and
>>convert to a string in US format:
>>
>>  txt.DefaultValue = LTrim(Str(txt.Value))
>>
>>or
>>
>>  txt.DefaultValue = _
>>    Format(txt.Value, "\#mm\/dd\/yyyy hh\:nn\:ss AM/PM\#")
>>
>>/gustav
>>
>>>>Tough day? No coffee?
>>>>
>>>>Set the DefaultValue at OnCurrent.
>>>>
>>>>As for Stuart's note on the KeyPreview, it's not a user feature, but a
>>>>property of the form.
>>>>
>>>>/gustav
>>>>      
>>>>>when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data of the current record to be displayed in the new record.
>>>>>So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA and then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear with the field username filled with AAA.



From mikedorism at adelphia.net  Thu Apr  1 08:56:32 2004
From: mikedorism at adelphia.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 09:56:32 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Default Printer for Access Report
In-Reply-To: <CD6E25A7E2F6734FA126AED83B9D54FB01C759A5@is~ccemail2.cce.local>
Message-ID: <000001c417f9$85866710$a1194244@hargrove.internal>

By default, the Printer Dialogue box does go to the default printer unless
the report has one specifically specified.  As far as I know, you have no
control over the Printer Dialogue box from within Access.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Geller
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 9:31 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Default Printer for Access Report


Thanks, Doris, that was the problem.  I'm wondering if, as a fail safe
measure, can I write code that would make sure that when that Printer
Dialogue box opens it is always set to go to the default printer?  I'd want
users to be able to pick a different option if they desired, but just as the
default, that the print box would be set to go to the default printer.
Where would I put the code?

--Susan


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 12:03 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Default Printer for Access Report

Open that report in design view and then click on "File" and choose "Page
Setup".  It is possible it get set accidentally when the report was
designed.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Geller
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 12:28 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Default Printer for Access Report


I have a reporting tool built in Access (2002) that is essentially a wizard
where users pick a report, set criteria and then see their output. There are
nearly 100 reports in the app.  When a user choses to print a report, the
default printer that comes up in the print dialog box is the default printer
set on their machine, EXCEPT for one of the reports.  On that one report
only, the default printer that comes up in the dialogue box is a different
printer.  All users get this different printer.  I did not write any code or
make any settings to indicate printer choice.  What could be happening?  How
can I get this one report to print to the user's default printer?

Note:  The only way that users can print a report is with a toolbar PRINT
button that I brings up the dialogue box.  There is no file menu from the
reports and there is no button with a printer icon that sends reports
straight to the printer.

--Susan



Susan B. Geller
Office of Information Systems
College of Continuing Education
University of Minnesota
306 Wesbrook Hall
77 Pleasant Street SE
Minneapolis, MN 55455
Phone:  612-626-4785
Fax:  612-625-2568


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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr  1 09:06:22 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 17:06:22 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?
In-Reply-To: <18028167422.20040401163629@cactus.dk>
References: <20040401092313.14263.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>
	<2310242047.20040401113744@cactus.dk> <406C10AC.7000509@torchlake.com>
	<15824175682.20040401152957@cactus.dk> <406C2564.1000708@torchlake.com>
	<18028167422.20040401163629@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <3229960731.20040401170622@cactus.dk>

Hi Tina

>> I begin to understand.  At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event
>> Procedure will set the DefaultValue of each TextBox to the values 
>> determined to already be stored in the record just saved.  Is that 
>> correct?

> Yes and no. No saving needs to take place:

> At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event Procedure will set the
> DefaultValue of each TextBox (or ComboBox etc.) to the values for the
> current record of those controls.

Well, of course, if you wish to use the recently saved values as
default values (a very common situation) every time a new record has
been added; then you would use the AfterUpdate event of the form.

/gustav


>>>>How does one set the DefautlValue at OnCurrent?  I don't know how to do
>>>>that.
>>>
>>>That's not difficult - something like this:
>>>
>>>  Dim txt As TextBox
>>>  Set txt = Me!txtYourTextBox
>>>
>>>  txt.DefaultValue = txt.Value
>>>
>>>  Set txt = Nothing
>>>
>>>However, DefaultValue should be a string which means that if your
>>>textbox contains decimals or a date/time value you must be careful and
>>>convert to a string in US format:
>>>
>>>  txt.DefaultValue = LTrim(Str(txt.Value))
>>>
>>>or
>>>
>>>  txt.DefaultValue = _
>>>    Format(txt.Value, "\#mm\/dd\/yyyy hh\:nn\:ss AM/PM\#")
>>>
>>>/gustav
>>>
>>>>>Tough day? No coffee?
>>>>>
>>>>>Set the DefaultValue at OnCurrent.
>>>>>
>>>>>As for Stuart's note on the KeyPreview, it's not a user feature, but a
>>>>>property of the form.
>>>>>
>>>>>/gustav
>>>>>      
>>>>>>when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data of the current record to be displayed in the new record.
>>>>>>So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA and then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear with the field username filled with AAA.



From artful at rogers.com  Thu Apr  1 12:17:57 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 10:17:57 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Amazing Stories
In-Reply-To: <20040401135357.58096.qmail@web61103.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <03f501c41815$a8b28c70$6501a8c0@rock>

Check out http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/aprilfool2.html for the 100
greatest April Fool hoaxes of all time. The BBC one about Swiss
spaghetti farmers is priceless, and you can even watch the
black-and-white mockumentary the beeb created. Shades of Monty Python.
Also check out #33, CBC's Michael Enright's alleged interview with Jimmy
Carter in which Enright calls him a washed up peanut farmer.

Arthur



From Christian.Brock at hoffman.army.mil  Thu Apr  1 09:22:22 2004
From: Christian.Brock at hoffman.army.mil (Brock, Christian T, HRC-Alexandria)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 10:22:22 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data
	?
Message-ID: <65EB528406CCD211BE8F00902717D23D0795CA41@perscomex31.hoffman.army.mil>

Why go to the trouble?  From the statement of intent, What the user really
wants is a duplicate current record button, instead of a new record button.
The Access XP command button wizard will allow you to create a button that
will duplicate the current record.

It creates the following lines of code
    DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 8, , acMenuVer70
    DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 2, , acMenuVer70
    DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 5, , acMenuVer70 'Paste Append

Obviously MS did not update the wizard to use readable code.  The following
will work as well.
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSelectRecord
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCopy
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdPasteAppend


Christian Brock




-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Thursday, 01 April 2004 09:36
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?


Hi Tina

> I begin to understand.  At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event
> Procedure will set the DefaultValue of each TextBox to the values 
> determined to already be stored in the record just saved.  Is that 
> correct?

Yes and no. No saving needs to take place:

At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event Procedure will set the
DefaultValue of each TextBox (or ComboBox etc.) to the values for the
current record of those controls.

> Does this require explicitly listing each TextBox of the form?

Yes.

/gustav


>>>How does one set the DefautlValue at OnCurrent?  I don't know how to do
>>>that.
>>
>>That's not difficult - something like this:
>>
>>  Dim txt As TextBox
>>  Set txt = Me!txtYourTextBox
>>
>>  txt.DefaultValue = txt.Value
>>
>>  Set txt = Nothing
>>
>>However, DefaultValue should be a string which means that if your
>>textbox contains decimals or a date/time value you must be careful and
>>convert to a string in US format:
>>
>>  txt.DefaultValue = LTrim(Str(txt.Value))
>>
>>or
>>
>>  txt.DefaultValue = _
>>    Format(txt.Value, "\#mm\/dd\/yyyy hh\:nn\:ss AM/PM\#")
>>
>>/gustav
>>
>>>>Tough day? No coffee?
>>>>
>>>>Set the DefaultValue at OnCurrent.
>>>>
>>>>As for Stuart's note on the KeyPreview, it's not a user feature, but a
>>>>property of the form.
>>>>
>>>>/gustav
>>>>      
>>>>>when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data of
the current record to be displayed in the new record.
>>>>>So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA and
then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear with
the field username filled with AAA.

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From pjones at btl.net  Thu Apr  1 09:38:43 2004
From: pjones at btl.net (Paul M. Jones)
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 09:38:43 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Compacting A2K
In-Reply-To: <MOELIKDOANGCHBBIGOLIAEICEAAA.greggs@msn.com>
References: <BAY2-F100ZvLohpyX7M0002c879@hotmail.com>
	<MOELIKDOANGCHBBIGOLIAEICEAAA.greggs@msn.com>
Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20040401093356.02ead9e8@btlmail.btl.net>

I've seen this problem on Windows Terminal server systems when the option 
to 'compact on exit' is set on the MS Access database.  The compact works 
fine on stand alone systems but fails on the  Terminal Server 
machine.  This is particularly the case when other users are accessing the 
MS Access file during that time. as well.  I have also found that even if 
the compact works, the permissions on the file is changed so that other 
users cannot access it.  I suspect that Citrix has similar issues since 
Windows TS is supposed to be a subset of Citrix.



Paul M. Jones
Spire Services Ltd.

> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
> >Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 9:15 PM
> >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Compacting A2K
> >
> >
> >Office Service packs applied?  Jet SPs applied?  Windows SPs applied?
> >
> >John W. Colby
> >www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gregg
> >Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:16 PM
> >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> >Subject: [AccessD] Compacting A2K
> >
> >
> >I'm really stumped on this one.
> >
> >I have a 2K database that won't compact.  It says the temporary database is
> >in use.  Every once in while it will work... maybe 1 out of 20 tries.  This
> >app is running under NT4 and Citrix.
> >
> >I opened a new database and imported just the tables and got the same
> >error.
> >I have a mixture of SQL and Access linked tables as well as FE tables.  I
> >start removing tables until it begins working but when I add the last
> >tables
> >I deleted back in, it still works.  It's not consistent.
> >
> >When it begins to work I start getting another occasional error. At the end
> >of the compact process I get an error that says "Cannot find field
> >'Description'".  I do have tables with a field name of description but when
> >I remove them I still get the error.  The Help says it is error 3799.  I
> >can't find anything on it anywhere.
> >
> >Also, I can move the app to another machine and it will compact fine at
> >least until it looks for the SQL links.  We rebuilt Citrix and NT OS which
> >did not help.
> >
> >Gregg Steinbrenner
> >
> >
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From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr  1 09:48:34 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 10:48:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?
References: <65EB528406CCD211BE8F00902717D23D0795CA41@perscomex31.hoffman.army.mil>
Message-ID: <001501c41800$caaf4fd0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...that "wizard" simply bites ...I'd create a "duplicate" button that saves
the pk of the current record to a variable or tag and then a query using the
saved pk to append a "new" record that is a duplicate of the saved one
except for the pk ...that would get you a dupe of every form field including
any subform.

William Hindman
ipsedixitism: something is true because I myself have said it is true ...the
philosophy of Noam Chomsky :)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brock, Christian T, HRC-Alexandria"
<Christian.Brock at hoffman.army.mil>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:22 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?


> Why go to the trouble?  From the statement of intent, What the user really
> wants is a duplicate current record button, instead of a new record
button.
> The Access XP command button wizard will allow you to create a button that
> will duplicate the current record.
>
> It creates the following lines of code
>     DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 8, , acMenuVer70
>     DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 2, , acMenuVer70
>     DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 5, , acMenuVer70 'Paste Append
>
> Obviously MS did not update the wizard to use readable code.  The
following
> will work as well.
>     DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSelectRecord
>     DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCopy
>     DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdPasteAppend
>
>
> Christian Brock
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
> Sent: Thursday, 01 April 2004 09:36
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data?
>
>
> Hi Tina
>
> > I begin to understand.  At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event
> > Procedure will set the DefaultValue of each TextBox to the values
> > determined to already be stored in the record just saved.  Is that
> > correct?
>
> Yes and no. No saving needs to take place:
>
> At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event Procedure will set the
> DefaultValue of each TextBox (or ComboBox etc.) to the values for the
> current record of those controls.
>
> > Does this require explicitly listing each TextBox of the form?
>
> Yes.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> >>>How does one set the DefautlValue at OnCurrent?  I don't know how to do
> >>>that.
> >>
> >>That's not difficult - something like this:
> >>
> >>  Dim txt As TextBox
> >>  Set txt = Me!txtYourTextBox
> >>
> >>  txt.DefaultValue = txt.Value
> >>
> >>  Set txt = Nothing
> >>
> >>However, DefaultValue should be a string which means that if your
> >>textbox contains decimals or a date/time value you must be careful and
> >>convert to a string in US format:
> >>
> >>  txt.DefaultValue = LTrim(Str(txt.Value))
> >>
> >>or
> >>
> >>  txt.DefaultValue = _
> >>    Format(txt.Value, "\#mm\/dd\/yyyy hh\:nn\:ss AM/PM\#")
> >>
> >>/gustav
> >>
> >>>>Tough day? No coffee?
> >>>>
> >>>>Set the DefaultValue at OnCurrent.
> >>>>
> >>>>As for Stuart's note on the KeyPreview, it's not a user feature, but a
> >>>>property of the form.
> >>>>
> >>>>/gustav
> >>>>
> >>>>>when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data
of
> the current record to be displayed in the new record.
> >>>>>So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA and
> then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear with
> the field username filled with AAA.
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Apr  1 09:48:39 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 07:48:39 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] "See ya" in a few days
In-Reply-To: <20040401063938.D6CC7725F@sitemail.everyone.net>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIAEFLCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Kathryn:

Hope you have not lost anything important, that you can not recover from
somewhere.

Good luck
Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Kathryn
Bassett
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:40 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] "See ya" in a few days


I'm doing my mail via web today (using husband's computer) and probably most
of tomorrow. My hard drive crashed as I was booting up this morning. Not
recoverable. I have been looking at new computers but wasn't planning to buy
it til tax refund got here in another couple weeks. But.... Got new one
tonight, but it will take a day or two to get everything loaded.

Kathryn Bassett
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From artful at rogers.com  Thu Apr  1 12:54:29 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 10:54:29 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
	data?SOLVED
In-Reply-To: <20040401115849.7339.qmail@web61101.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <03f701c4181a$c430b800$6501a8c0@rock>

Here is a function that I use for this purpose. It's specific to each
particular field on a form, because in my experience I seldom wanted ALL
the fields to be duplicated; but rather just many of them. Note that I
typically define a compiler directive called TALKON.

Public Function CarryForward()

    Const cQuote = """"  'Thats two quotes
    Dim ctlCurrent As Control
    Set ctlCurrent = Screen.ActiveControl
    ctlCurrent.DefaultValue = cQuote & ctlCurrent.Value & cQuote

#If TALKON = True Then
    Debug.Print "Current default value: " & ctlCurrent.DefaultValue
    Debug.Print "New default value: " & ctlCurrent.DefaultValue
#End If

    Set ctlCurrent = Nothing
    
End Function

Arthur


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 3:59 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data?SOLVED


We're doing mostly 'maintenace' (don't know the English word for this)
for over 100 apps...not counting Excel -'tjoep' :-)

Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:On 1 Apr 2004 at 2:23, S
D wrote:

> Hi Gustav,
> Coffee? Plenty!
> Tough day...oi!
> 
> MS-Development team of 5, 4 people are ill....guess who's not.... ;-)
> 

You're lucky. MS Development team of one.

Coughing, sneezing, aching muscles, high temperature and deadlines
looming on a 
couple of projects :-(




From Christian.Brock at hoffman.army.mil  Thu Apr  1 10:24:31 2004
From: Christian.Brock at hoffman.army.mil (Brock, Christian T, HRC-Alexandria)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 11:24:31 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data
	?
Message-ID: <65EB528406CCD211BE8F00902717D23D0795CA9D@perscomex31.hoffman.army.mil>

The copy record and paste append commands will get every form field and
subform.  Do not see how what you say to do provides any benefit over using
the three DoCmd.RunCommand statements.

Christian Brock



-----Original Message-----
From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Thursday, 01 April 2004 10:49
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?


...that "wizard" simply bites ...I'd create a "duplicate" button that saves
the pk of the current record to a variable or tag and then a query using the
saved pk to append a "new" record that is a duplicate of the saved one
except for the pk ...that would get you a dupe of every form field including
any subform.

William Hindman
ipsedixitism: something is true because I myself have said it is true ...the
philosophy of Noam Chomsky :)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brock, Christian T, HRC-Alexandria"
<Christian.Brock at hoffman.army.mil>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:22 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?


> Why go to the trouble?  From the statement of intent, What the user really
> wants is a duplicate current record button, instead of a new record
button.
> The Access XP command button wizard will allow you to create a button that
> will duplicate the current record.
>
> It creates the following lines of code
>     DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 8, , acMenuVer70
>     DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 2, , acMenuVer70
>     DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 5, , acMenuVer70 'Paste Append
>
> Obviously MS did not update the wizard to use readable code.  The
following
> will work as well.
>     DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSelectRecord
>     DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCopy
>     DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdPasteAppend
>
>
> Christian Brock
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
> Sent: Thursday, 01 April 2004 09:36
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data?
>
>
> Hi Tina
>
> > I begin to understand.  At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event
> > Procedure will set the DefaultValue of each TextBox to the values
> > determined to already be stored in the record just saved.  Is that
> > correct?
>
> Yes and no. No saving needs to take place:
>
> At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event Procedure will set the
> DefaultValue of each TextBox (or ComboBox etc.) to the values for the
> current record of those controls.
>
> > Does this require explicitly listing each TextBox of the form?
>
> Yes.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> >>>How does one set the DefautlValue at OnCurrent?  I don't know how to do
> >>>that.
> >>
> >>That's not difficult - something like this:
> >>
> >>  Dim txt As TextBox
> >>  Set txt = Me!txtYourTextBox
> >>
> >>  txt.DefaultValue = txt.Value
> >>
> >>  Set txt = Nothing
> >>
> >>However, DefaultValue should be a string which means that if your
> >>textbox contains decimals or a date/time value you must be careful and
> >>convert to a string in US format:
> >>
> >>  txt.DefaultValue = LTrim(Str(txt.Value))
> >>
> >>or
> >>
> >>  txt.DefaultValue = _
> >>    Format(txt.Value, "\#mm\/dd\/yyyy hh\:nn\:ss AM/PM\#")
> >>
> >>/gustav
> >>
> >>>>Tough day? No coffee?
> >>>>
> >>>>Set the DefaultValue at OnCurrent.
> >>>>
> >>>>As for Stuart's note on the KeyPreview, it's not a user feature, but a
> >>>>property of the form.
> >>>>
> >>>>/gustav
> >>>>
> >>>>>when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data
of
> the current record to be displayed in the new record.
> >>>>>So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA and
> then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear with
> the field username filled with AAA.
>
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Apr  1 10:28:54 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 08:28:54 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Create table script...so close...
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8632C511@infoserver01.infostat.local>

When you're using ADO, you have to use ADO datatype enums.  Try
adVarChar.  TEXT is the data type for memo fields in SQL Server.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: S D [mailto:accessd667 at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 5:54 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] Create table script...so close...


Hi group,
 
I need to create tables using the layout specified in a certain table. I
found the SUB below on msdn.microsoft.com. Changed it a bit and voila
the tables are created! HOWEVER, when i specify TEXT the darn thing
creates MEMO fields?!? Qua Pasa?
 
Does anybody know how to change this so that I get proper text fields?
BTW: arrFileLayout(y, 6) contains the field type (=TEXT)
BTW2: I also used the actual word TEXT.
 
TIA,
 
Sander
 
Sub CreateTableX1(ByRef arrFileLayout())
   Dim dbs As ADODB.Connection   ' Database
   Dim y As Integer
   Dim strCreateTable As String
   Dim strCreate As String
   Dim strFields As String
   
   Set dbs = CurrentProject.Connection()
   ' Create a table with two text fields.
   strCreate = "CREATE TABLE ThisTable "
   For y = 0 To UBound(arrFileLayout, 1)
      'Debug.Print (arrFileLayout(y, 0))
      strFields = strFields & arrFileLayout(y, 0) & arrFileLayout(y, 6)
& ","
   Next y
   
   'remove last ,
   strFields = Mid(strFields, 1, Len(strFields) - 1)
   Debug.Print strFields

   'Build sql
   strCreateTable = strCreate & "(" & strFields & ")"
   Debug.Print strCreateTable

   'execute the blody thing
   dbs.Execute strCreateTable
 
   dbs.Close
End Sub






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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr  1 10:32:38 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 18:32:38 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
	data?SOLVED
In-Reply-To: <03f701c4181a$c430b800$6501a8c0@rock>
References: <03f701c4181a$c430b800$6501a8c0@rock>
Message-ID: <12435136453.20040401183238@cactus.dk>

Hi Arthur

> Here is a function that I use for this purpose. It's specific to each
> particular field on a form, because in my experience I seldom wanted ALL
> the fields to be duplicated; but rather just many of them. Note that I
> typically define a compiler directive called TALKON.

> Public Function CarryForward()

>     Const cQuote = """"  'Thats two quotes
>     Dim ctlCurrent As Control
>     Set ctlCurrent = Screen.ActiveControl
>     ctlCurrent.DefaultValue = cQuote & ctlCurrent.Value & cQuote

In my experience this may fail in a non-US localized environment for
decimals and date/time values as .Value will be converted to a
localized string.

A typo here?

> #If TALKON = True Then
>     Debug.Print "Current default value: " & ctlCurrent.DefaultValue
>     Debug.Print "New default value: " & ctlCurrent.DefaultValue
> #End If

You are retrieving the same value twice ...

>     Set ctlCurrent = Nothing
    
> End Function

/gustav



From serbach at new.rr.com  Thu Apr  1 10:46:44 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 10:46:44 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports
Message-ID: <20040401104644.1145960650.serbach@new.rr.com>

Dean,

I've struggled with this off and on over the past year. I finally just colored the background of the Detail section a light gray (230,230,230) and colored all the text boxes white. That gives the effect of a nice subtle grid.

Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504
 
"I think that the send button actually turns brains on." -- Bryan Carbonnell



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr  1 10:49:43 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 11:49:43 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last
	entereddata?SOLVED
In-Reply-To: <03f701c4181a$c430b800$6501a8c0@rock>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPCEDFHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

And of course, to a man with a hammer...

Add this CarryForward() (slightly modified) to the control classes for the
controls you want this functionality for, clsTxt if only the text control
etc.  Then in the dclsFrm form class create a colCarryForward collection to
hold pointers to the control classes you want to activate this functionality
for.  In dclsFrm build a SetCarryForward method with a ParamArray to pass in
the controls you want to set this up for.

In the form's Open event call dclsFrm.SetCarryForward ctl1, ctl2, ctl3.

In SetCarryForward iterate the ParamArray and grab a pointer to the class
for each control and place in the colCarryForward collection.

In mfrm_BeforeUpdate call a method DoCarryForward() that iterates the
colCarryForward collection and calls the control class' CarryForward method.

Having done this you now have CarryForward functionality for any form for
any project.  Just turn it on as you need it by calling the
dclsFrm.SetCarryForward method passing in controls to carry forward.

Of course you will need a hammer to do this.

;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 1:54 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last
entereddata?SOLVED


Here is a function that I use for this purpose. It's specific to each
particular field on a form, because in my experience I seldom wanted ALL
the fields to be duplicated; but rather just many of them. Note that I
typically define a compiler directive called TALKON.

Public Function CarryForward()

    Const cQuote = """"  'Thats two quotes
    Dim ctlCurrent As Control
    Set ctlCurrent = Screen.ActiveControl
    ctlCurrent.DefaultValue = cQuote & ctlCurrent.Value & cQuote

#If TALKON = True Then
    Debug.Print "Current default value: " & ctlCurrent.DefaultValue
    Debug.Print "New default value: " & ctlCurrent.DefaultValue
#End If

    Set ctlCurrent = Nothing

End Function

Arthur


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 3:59 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data?SOLVED


We're doing mostly 'maintenace' (don't know the English word for this)
for over 100 apps...not counting Excel -'tjoep' :-)

Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:On 1 Apr 2004 at 2:23, S
D wrote:

> Hi Gustav,
> Coffee? Plenty!
> Tough day...oi!
>
> MS-Development team of 5, 4 people are ill....guess who's not.... ;-)
>

You're lucky. MS Development team of one.

Coughing, sneezing, aching muscles, high temperature and deadlines
looming on a
couple of projects :-(


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From serbach at new.rr.com  Thu Apr  1 10:54:30 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 10:54:30 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP & FMS for 2000
Message-ID: <20040401105430.2139825652.serbach@new.rr.com>

Joe,

>> If I use the Access 2000 format of Access XP can use the FMS Developer
tools without messing anything up? <<

Sorry, I use the FMS tools but I don't use Access XP. However the FMS web site seems to indicate that the latest tools handle 2000, XP, and 2003. You may be able to upgrade.

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504

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From JHewson at karta.com  Thu Apr  1 10:50:27 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 10:50:27 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C13830D@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

I too have struggled with this for a long time.
I finally went to MS to see what they had to say.
Nothing helped.  When this thread started, I looked back on the items I had saved.
I found this jewel waiting for me.
It became clear what needed to be done, Debbie Elam posted the below code in January of this year.  It was so simple...
Thanks Debbie.

Jim
 

Put this in the detail section on format

Dim X As Single
Me.ScaleMode = 5
Me.DrawWidth = 3
X = 0
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 0.9604
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 1.9083
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 2.7604
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 3.6271
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 4.3354
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 5.2111
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 5.95

The value of X is the number of inches from the left you want the line to
be.

Debbie


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Steven W.
Erbach
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:47 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports


Dean,

I've struggled with this off and on over the past year. I finally just colored the background of the Detail section a light gray (230,230,230) and colored all the text boxes white. That gives the effect of a nice subtle grid.

Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504
 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr  1 10:55:05 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 11:55:05 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports
In-Reply-To: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C13830D@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
Message-ID: <20040401165503.QGRT1715.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Saved my bottom too -- was going to post it but you beat me to it. :) 

Susan H. 

I too have struggled with this for a long time.
I finally went to MS to see what they had to say.
Nothing helped.  When this thread started, I looked back on the items I had
saved.
I found this jewel waiting for me.
It became clear what needed to be done, Debbie Elam posted the below code in
January of this year.  It was so simple...
Thanks Debbie.

Jim
 

Put this in the detail section on format

Dim X As Single
Me.ScaleMode = 5
Me.DrawWidth = 3
X = 0
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 0.9604
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 1.9083
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 2.7604
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 3.6271
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 4.3354
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 5.2111
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 5.95

The value of X is the number of inches from the left you want the line to
be.




From DElam at jenkens.com  Thu Apr  1 11:01:13 2004
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 11:01:13 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0106BCC8@natexch.jenkens.com>

I actually found this jewel buried in a report I inherited when I started at
Jenkens.  Wish I knew who to attribute this to.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:55 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports


Saved my bottom too -- was going to post it but you beat me to it. :) 

Susan H. 

I too have struggled with this for a long time.
I finally went to MS to see what they had to say.
Nothing helped.  When this thread started, I looked back on the items I had
saved.
I found this jewel waiting for me.
It became clear what needed to be done, Debbie Elam posted the below code in
January of this year.  It was so simple...
Thanks Debbie.

Jim
 

Put this in the detail section on format

Dim X As Single
Me.ScaleMode = 5
Me.DrawWidth = 3
X = 0
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 0.9604
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 1.9083
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 2.7604
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 3.6271
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 4.3354
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 5.2111
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 5.95

The value of X is the number of inches from the left you want the line to
be.


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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Thu Apr  1 11:20:57 2004
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (David McAfee (Home))
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 09:20:57 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports
In-Reply-To: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0106BCC8@natexch.jenkens.com>
Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKKEDBEAAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

no, X is the number of twips (inches * 1440)

IF you tag the controls with something like COLORED

Then place the following code in the report's Detail_Format event
Dim ctl As Control
  Me.ScaleMode = 5
  For Each ctl In Me.Controls
    If ctl.Tag = "Colored" Then
        ctl.BackColor = Highlight
        Me.Line ((ctl.Left / 1440), 0)-((ctl.Left / 1440), 10)
        Me.Line (((ctl.Left + ctl.Width) / 1440), 0)-(((ctl.Left +
ctl.Width) / 1440), 10)
    End If
  Next ctl

You'll get your lines!

David

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 9:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports


I actually found this jewel buried in a report I inherited when I started at
Jenkens.  Wish I knew who to attribute this to.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:55 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports


Saved my bottom too -- was going to post it but you beat me to it. :)

Susan H.

I too have struggled with this for a long time.
I finally went to MS to see what they had to say.
Nothing helped.  When this thread started, I looked back on the items I had
saved.
I found this jewel waiting for me.
It became clear what needed to be done, Debbie Elam posted the below code in
January of this year.  It was so simple...
Thanks Debbie.

Jim


Put this in the detail section on format

Dim X As Single
Me.ScaleMode = 5
Me.DrawWidth = 3
X = 0
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 0.9604
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 1.9083
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 2.7604
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 3.6271
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 4.3354
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 5.2111
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 5.95

The value of X is the number of inches from the left you want the line to
be.


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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Thu Apr  1 11:31:14 2004
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (David McAfee (Home))
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 09:31:14 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports
In-Reply-To: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKKEDBEAAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKAEDCEAAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

Sorry tha first line was to be deleted, X is inches.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of David McAfee
(Home)
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 9:21 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports


no, X is the number of twips (inches * 1440)

IF you tag the controls with something like COLORED

Then place the following code in the report's Detail_Format event
Dim ctl As Control
  Me.ScaleMode = 5
  For Each ctl In Me.Controls
    If ctl.Tag = "Colored" Then
        ctl.BackColor = Highlight
        Me.Line ((ctl.Left / 1440), 0)-((ctl.Left / 1440), 10)
        Me.Line (((ctl.Left + ctl.Width) / 1440), 0)-(((ctl.Left +
ctl.Width) / 1440), 10)
    End If
  Next ctl

You'll get your lines!

David

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 9:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports


I actually found this jewel buried in a report I inherited when I started at
Jenkens.  Wish I knew who to attribute this to.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:55 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports


Saved my bottom too -- was going to post it but you beat me to it. :)

Susan H.

I too have struggled with this for a long time.
I finally went to MS to see what they had to say.
Nothing helped.  When this thread started, I looked back on the items I had
saved.
I found this jewel waiting for me.
It became clear what needed to be done, Debbie Elam posted the below code in
January of this year.  It was so simple...
Thanks Debbie.

Jim


Put this in the detail section on format

Dim X As Single
Me.ScaleMode = 5
Me.DrawWidth = 3
X = 0
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 0.9604
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 1.9083
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 2.7604
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 3.6271
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 4.3354
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 5.2111
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 5.95

The value of X is the number of inches from the left you want the line to
be.


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From ranthony at wrsystems.com  Thu Apr  1 11:45:06 2004
From: ranthony at wrsystems.com (ranthony at wrsystems.com)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 12:45:06 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports
Message-ID: <5F21A4E8B8DD734992EF9E70AC9D3064128B46@mail2.wrsystems.com>

Thanks for sharing this everyone, I just so happen to be working on a report
and the customer wants vertical lines a la an excel spreadsheet.  Schww-eet!

-----Original Message-----
From: Elam, Debbie [mailto:DElam at jenkens.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 12:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports

I actually found this jewel buried in a report I inherited when I started at
Jenkens.  Wish I knew who to attribute this to.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:55 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports


Saved my bottom too -- was going to post it but you beat me to it. :) 

Susan H. 

I too have struggled with this for a long time.
I finally went to MS to see what they had to say.
Nothing helped.  When this thread started, I looked back on the items I had
saved.
I found this jewel waiting for me.
It became clear what needed to be done, Debbie Elam posted the below code in
January of this year.  It was so simple...
Thanks Debbie.

Jim
 

Put this in the detail section on format

Dim X As Single
Me.ScaleMode = 5
Me.DrawWidth = 3
X = 0
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 0.9604
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 1.9083
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 2.7604
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 3.6271
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 4.3354
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 5.2111
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 5.95

The value of X is the number of inches from the left you want the line to
be.


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From doug at murphyscreativity.com  Thu Apr  1 14:06:32 2004
From: doug at murphyscreativity.com (Doug Murphy)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 12:06:32 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Transfer text field name 
In-Reply-To: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF80222789D@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <003301c41824$d6dfb190$8500a8c0@CX615377a>

Folks,

I am outputting the results of a query into a comma delimited text file
using the transfer text method. Field names are to be put in the first
row. Some of the query fields use assigned names, e.g., Street
#:[fldStreetNo].  The interesting thing is that the "#" in the field
name shows up in the query when the results are viewed but shows up as a
"." when I look at the text file. I put the symbols in quotes they are
not part of the output.  Any one have a suggestion on how to get
transfer text to put the "#" where it is supposed to be?

Thanks

Doug










From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Thu Apr  1 14:59:25 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 15:59:25 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Another Searchable Archives
Message-ID: <406C3C5D.28088.636217@localhost>

Well folks, it appears that the stars and planets have been in 
alignment this week, except for everyone in the house being sick.

AccessD now has a second searchable archive!!! The archives hosted by 
DBA, itself, are now searchable. This is in addition to Drew's 
archive, which have always been searchable.

You can get to it by pointing your ever so familiar web browser to:
http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/

Just fill in your favourite search term and click search and all will 
be found (we hope :)

The only limitation is that the search index is updated once per day, 
so any posts made after 0207 CST will not be searchable until the 
following day.  

Actually all of the lists will become searchable like this over time, 
as posts are made to it.  Any list that has had a post to it since 
March 29th, should be searchable now.

So if you want your favourite list to be searchable, just post to it. 
This includes dba-visio!!! :-)

-- 
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When everything is coming your way......you're in the wrong lane.  


From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Thu Apr  1 15:08:27 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 15:08:27 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Another Searchable Archives
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227A60@main2.marlow.com>

Good job!  Are we going to move the archives on my site to the official
site?  Since dba's site is now searchable?

Drew

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Bryan
Carbonnell
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 2:59 PM
To: access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Another Searchable Archives


Well folks, it appears that the stars and planets have been in 
alignment this week, except for everyone in the house being sick.

AccessD now has a second searchable archive!!! The archives hosted by 
DBA, itself, are now searchable. This is in addition to Drew's 
archive, which have always been searchable.

You can get to it by pointing your ever so familiar web browser to:
http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/

Just fill in your favourite search term and click search and all will 
be found (we hope :)

The only limitation is that the search index is updated once per day, 
so any posts made after 0207 CST will not be searchable until the 
following day.  

Actually all of the lists will become searchable like this over time, 
as posts are made to it.  Any list that has had a post to it since 
March 29th, should be searchable now.

So if you want your favourite list to be searchable, just post to it. 
This includes dba-visio!!! :-)

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr  1 15:42:34 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 16:42:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Transfer text field name 
In-Reply-To: <003301c41824$d6dfb190$8500a8c0@CX615377a>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPCEDKHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Personally I would recommend getting rid of the # entirely.

John W. Colby 
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Doug Murphy
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 3:07 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Transfer text field name 


Folks,

I am outputting the results of a query into a comma delimited text file
using the transfer text method. Field names are to be put in the first
row. Some of the query fields use assigned names, e.g., Street
#:[fldStreetNo].  The interesting thing is that the "#" in the field
name shows up in the query when the results are viewed but shows up as a
"." when I look at the text file. I put the symbols in quotes they are
not part of the output.  Any one have a suggestion on how to get
transfer text to put the "#" where it is supposed to be?

Thanks

Doug








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From doug at murphyscreativity.com  Thu Apr  1 16:03:45 2004
From: doug at murphyscreativity.com (Doug Murphy)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 14:03:45 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Transfer text field name 
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPCEDKHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <003b01c41835$33f1bb70$8500a8c0@CX615377a>

John,

If it was in my control it wouldn't be there.  Unfortunately this file
is imported into another commercial program that uses that field name.
All I am doing is converting the data from one format to another for the
import.  The idea was to use a query and a couple of formating functions
to reformat some data from a file downloaded from the web and format it
for input into the program. This was supposed to be a quick project; I
get burned every time I think that way.

Doug




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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 1:43 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Transfer text field name 


Personally I would recommend getting rid of the # entirely.

John W. Colby 
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Doug Murphy
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 3:07 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Transfer text field name 


Folks,

I am outputting the results of a query into a comma delimited text file
using the transfer text method. Field names are to be put in the first
row. Some of the query fields use assigned names, e.g., Street
#:[fldStreetNo].  The interesting thing is that the "#" in the field
name shows up in the query when the results are viewed but shows up as a
"." when I look at the text file. I put the symbols in quotes they are
not part of the output.  Any one have a suggestion on how to get
transfer text to put the "#" where it is supposed to be?

Thanks

Doug








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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr  1 16:14:29 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 08:14:29 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Transfer text field name 
In-Reply-To: <003b01c41835$33f1bb70$8500a8c0@CX615377a>
References: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPCEDKHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <406D20E5.32257.376CF9E@localhost>

On 1 Apr 2004 at 14:03, Doug Murphy wrote:

> John,
> 
> If it was in my control it wouldn't be there.  Unfortunately this file
> is imported into another commercial program that uses that field name.
> All I am doing is converting the data from one format to another for the
> import.  The idea was to use a query and a couple of formating functions
> to reformat some data from a file downloaded from the web and format it
> for input into the program. This was supposed to be a quick project; I
> get burned every time I think that way.
> 

I avoid the TransferText becuase of these sorts of problems. It's quite simple to role 
your own and have complete  control over what you  are doing. Here's a very basic 
outline for  a job specific export. You can automate a lot of this by passing parameters,
looping thourhg fields etc


Function ExportText() as Long
Dim rs as Recodset
Set rs = CurrentDb.OPenrecordset((qryMyQuery")

Open "MyExportFile" for Output as #1
Print #1,"Street #,Second Field Name,Field with & in it,Etc"
While not eof(1)
	Print #1, rs(0) & ",'" & rs(1) & "','" & rs(2) & "'," & rs(3) 
Wend
Close #1
End Function

 
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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Thu Apr  1 16:31:57 2004
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 14:31:57 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Transfer text field name 
In-Reply-To: <406D20E5.32257.376CF9E@localhost>
Message-ID: <003d01c41839$2444aee0$8500a8c0@CX615377a>

Stuart,

Thanks for the code.  When I originally looked at this that was the
approach I was going to take, but then to save time (ha!) I decided to
use transfertext.  Lesson learned.

Thanks again.

Doug






-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 2:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Transfer text field name 


On 1 Apr 2004 at 14:03, Doug Murphy wrote:

> John,
> 
> If it was in my control it wouldn't be there.  Unfortunately this file

> is imported into another commercial program that uses that field name.

> All I am doing is converting the data from one format to another for 
> the import.  The idea was to use a query and a couple of formating 
> functions to reformat some data from a file downloaded from the web 
> and format it for input into the program. This was supposed to be a 
> quick project; I get burned every time I think that way.
> 

I avoid the TransferText becuase of these sorts of problems. It's quite
simple to role 
your own and have complete  control over what you  are doing. Here's a
very basic 
outline for  a job specific export. You can automate a lot of this by
passing parameters, looping thourhg fields etc


Function ExportText() as Long
Dim rs as Recodset
Set rs = CurrentDb.OPenrecordset((qryMyQuery")

Open "MyExportFile" for Output as #1
Print #1,"Street #,Second Field Name,Field with & in it,Etc" While not
eof(1)
	Print #1, rs(0) & ",'" & rs(1) & "','" & rs(2) & "'," & rs(3) 
Wend
Close #1
End Function

 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr  1 18:06:32 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 19:06:32 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Transfer text field name 
In-Reply-To: <003b01c41835$33f1bb70$8500a8c0@CX615377a>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPGEDLHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

>This was supposed to be a quick project; I get burned every time I think
that way.

ROTFL.  Yup!

I believe we have some example code hanging around somewhere that shows how
to do this just using code.  Have you looked on AccessD's file area?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Doug Murphy
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 5:04 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Transfer text field name


John,

If it was in my control it wouldn't be there.  Unfortunately this file
is imported into another commercial program that uses that field name.
All I am doing is converting the data from one format to another for the
import.  The idea was to use a query and a couple of formating functions
to reformat some data from a file downloaded from the web and format it
for input into the program. This was supposed to be a quick project; I
get burned every time I think that way.

Doug




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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 1:43 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Transfer text field name


Personally I would recommend getting rid of the # entirely.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Doug Murphy
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 3:07 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Transfer text field name


Folks,

I am outputting the results of a query into a comma delimited text file
using the transfer text method. Field names are to be put in the first
row. Some of the query fields use assigned names, e.g., Street
#:[fldStreetNo].  The interesting thing is that the "#" in the field
name shows up in the query when the results are viewed but shows up as a
"." when I look at the text file. I put the symbols in quotes they are
not part of the output.  Any one have a suggestion on how to get
transfer text to put the "#" where it is supposed to be?

Thanks

Doug








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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr  1 18:12:43 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 19:12:43 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Transfer text field name 
In-Reply-To: <406D20E5.32257.376CF9E@localhost>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPIEDLHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

In the coming months I will have a similar problem to solve.  My client
handles claim processing for disability insurance - the middle man / call
center role.  Their client - the insurance company - is moving to new
software and I have to change to outputting just the fields that we already
export to them, perhaps 60 or 70 fields, into a single record of hundreds of
fields, formatted EXACTLY as they dictate, fixed field width.  They can't
even handle delimited, it must be fixed width fields.  Literally about 3000
bytes per record with all the blank fields just spaces.

Mainframes are just silly sometimes.  You should see the record format.
It's like hundreds of fields just "reserved" for some future need.  I
shudder to think of what their program looks like.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 5:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Transfer text field name


On 1 Apr 2004 at 14:03, Doug Murphy wrote:

> John,
>
> If it was in my control it wouldn't be there.  Unfortunately this file
> is imported into another commercial program that uses that field name.
> All I am doing is converting the data from one format to another for the
> import.  The idea was to use a query and a couple of formating functions
> to reformat some data from a file downloaded from the web and format it
> for input into the program. This was supposed to be a quick project; I
> get burned every time I think that way.
>

I avoid the TransferText becuase of these sorts of problems. It's quite
simple to role
your own and have complete  control over what you  are doing. Here's a very
basic
outline for  a job specific export. You can automate a lot of this by
passing parameters,
looping thourhg fields etc


Function ExportText() as Long
Dim rs as Recodset
Set rs = CurrentDb.OPenrecordset((qryMyQuery")

Open "MyExportFile" for Output as #1
Print #1,"Street #,Second Field Name,Field with & in it,Etc"
While not eof(1)
	Print #1, rs(0) & ",'" & rs(1) & "','" & rs(2) & "'," & rs(3)
Wend
Close #1
End Function


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From doug at murphyscreativity.com  Thu Apr  1 18:26:34 2004
From: doug at murphyscreativity.com (Doug Murphy)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 16:26:34 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Transfer text field name 
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPGEDLHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <000201c41849$2a749860$8500a8c0@CX615377a>

John,

I followed Stuarts lead and wrote a file routine that output all the
field names and then associated values into a delimited text file.  The
# comes through fine now. It was a good suggestion. Should have started
this way.  I'd still like to know what the problem is with transfertext,
but that may just be one of life's mysteries.

Doug






-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 4:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Transfer text field name 


>This was supposed to be a quick project; I get burned every time I 
>think
that way.

ROTFL.  Yup!

I believe we have some example code hanging around somewhere that shows
how to do this just using code.  Have you looked on AccessD's file area?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Doug Murphy
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 5:04 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Transfer text field name


John,

If it was in my control it wouldn't be there.  Unfortunately this file
is imported into another commercial program that uses that field name.
All I am doing is converting the data from one format to another for the
import.  The idea was to use a query and a couple of formating functions
to reformat some data from a file downloaded from the web and format it
for input into the program. This was supposed to be a quick project; I
get burned every time I think that way.

Doug




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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 1:43 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Transfer text field name


Personally I would recommend getting rid of the # entirely.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Doug Murphy
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 3:07 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Transfer text field name


Folks,

I am outputting the results of a query into a comma delimited text file
using the transfer text method. Field names are to be put in the first
row. Some of the query fields use assigned names, e.g., Street
#:[fldStreetNo].  The interesting thing is that the "#" in the field
name shows up in the query when the results are viewed but shows up as a
"." when I look at the text file. I put the symbols in quotes they are
not part of the output.  Any one have a suggestion on how to get
transfer text to put the "#" where it is supposed to be?

Thanks

Doug








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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr  1 18:42:34 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 10:42:34 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Transfer text field name 
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPIEDLHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <406D20E5.32257.376CF9E@localhost>
Message-ID: <406D439A.28009.4CF693@localhost>

On 1 Apr 2004 at 19:12, John W. Colby wrote:

> In the coming months I will have a similar problem to solve.  My client
> handles claim processing for disability insurance - the middle man / call
> center role.  Their client - the insurance company - is moving to new
> software and I have to change to outputting just the fields that we already
> export to them, perhaps 60 or 70 fields, into a single record of hundreds of
> fields, formatted EXACTLY as they dictate, fixed field width.  They can't
> even handle delimited, it must be fixed width fields.  Literally about 3000
> bytes per record with all the blank fields just spaces.
> 


A suggestion based on bitter experience for when you get round to this. 
Don't try to build the output by concatenation of variable length strings, it quickly 
becomes a nightmare to keep track of where you are.

Build the full string first with
strOutputString = Space$(3000)

Then insert your fields in the correct position with
Mid$(strOutputString,lngFldPosn) = strFieldData



 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr  1 19:08:27 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 20:08:27 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Transfer text field name 
In-Reply-To: <406D439A.28009.4CF693@localhost>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPEEDMHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Whoa, thanks for that.  It never would have occurred to me to do that.

I have a file spec with all the fields and their start / stop positions, as
well as the format.  I kinda figured I'd build a table that has all of that
info plus my corresponding field name (it's a rather monstrous query since
it pulls from about a dozen normalized tables).  Then build a function that
opens the recordset and builds each record based on their field spec table.

In the end, what a PITA.  But your suggestion will definitely make things
easier.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 7:43 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Transfer text field name


On 1 Apr 2004 at 19:12, John W. Colby wrote:

> In the coming months I will have a similar problem to solve.  My client
> handles claim processing for disability insurance - the middle man / call
> center role.  Their client - the insurance company - is moving to new
> software and I have to change to outputting just the fields that we
already
> export to them, perhaps 60 or 70 fields, into a single record of hundreds
of
> fields, formatted EXACTLY as they dictate, fixed field width.  They can't
> even handle delimited, it must be fixed width fields.  Literally about
3000
> bytes per record with all the blank fields just spaces.
>


A suggestion based on bitter experience for when you get round to this.
Don't try to build the output by concatenation of variable length strings,
it quickly
becomes a nightmare to keep track of where you are.

Build the full string first with
strOutputString = Space$(3000)

Then insert your fields in the correct position with
Mid$(strOutputString,lngFldPosn) = strFieldData




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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr  1 21:48:33 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 13:48:33 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Transfer text field name 
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPEEDMHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <406D439A.28009.4CF693@localhost>
Message-ID: <406D6F31.1161.F73C9A@localhost>

On 1 Apr 2004 at 20:08, John W. Colby wrote:

> Whoa, thanks for that.  It never would have occurred to me to do that.
> 
> I have a file spec with all the fields and their start / stop positions, as
> well as the format.  I kinda figured I'd build a table that has all of that
> info plus my corresponding field name (it's a rather monstrous query since
> it pulls from about a dozen normalized tables).  Then build a function that
> opens the recordset and builds each record based on their field spec table.
> 
> In the end, what a PITA.  But your suggestion will definitely make things
> easier.
> 

You will probably find that some data is left justified  and others right justified, possibly 
with different numbers of decimal places.

If you store a RightJustify flag and NoOfDecimalPlaces in your table along with the start 
position and length you can then build quite a simple function to step through each field 
in the table,  read and format values appropriately and poke them into the correct 
positions. It ends up being quite trivial to do, regardless of how big/complex the required 
output row is. 

The big advantage is that you can handle subsequent changes in the output spec very 
easily. (It's sort of a "space delimited export framework" <g>)












 
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From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Thu Apr  1 22:07:57 2004
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 09:37:57 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports
References: <20040401104644.1145960650.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <00a901c41869$1c512850$7c1865cb@winxp>

Dean,

    For a practical example, you could also see my sample db named ReportBorders at Rogers Access Library (other developers section) -
    http://www.rogersaccesslibrary.com

    The underlying approach could be adapted suitably for your specific needs.

Regards,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steven W. Erbach 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 22:16
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports


  Dean,

  I've struggled with this off and on over the past year. I finally just colored the background of the Detail section a light gray (230,230,230) and colored all the text boxes white. That gives the effect of a nice subtle grid.

  Regards,
   
  Steve Erbach
  Scientific Marketing
  Neenah, WI
  920-969-0504
   
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From jwelz at hotmail.com  Thu Apr  1 23:46:34 2004
From: jwelz at hotmail.com (Jürgen Welz)
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 22:46:34 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Transfer text field name
Message-ID: <BAY2-F70yKFRJrzdDW60003ef8c@hotmail.com>

You may want to look at lset for fixed width data files:

http://www.vbwm.com/art_2001/UDT05/

is an example.



Ciao
J?rgen Welz
Edmonton, Alberta
jwelz at hotmail.com





>From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
>
>Whoa, thanks for that.  It never would have occurred to me to do that.
>
>I have a file spec with all the fields and their start / stop positions, as
>well as the format.  I kinda figured I'd build a table that has all of that
>info plus my corresponding field name (it's a rather monstrous query since
>it pulls from about a dozen normalized tables).  Then build a function that
>opens the recordset and builds each record based on their field spec table.
>
>In the end, what a PITA.  But your suggestion will definitely make things
>easier.
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stuart
>McLachlan
>Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 7:43 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Transfer text field name
>
>
>On 1 Apr 2004 at 19:12, John W. Colby wrote:
>
> > In the coming months I will have a similar problem to solve.  My client
> > handles claim processing for disability insurance - the middle man / 
>call
> > center role.  Their client - the insurance company - is moving to new
> > software and I have to change to outputting just the fields that we
>already
> > export to them, perhaps 60 or 70 fields, into a single record of 
>hundreds
>of
> > fields, formatted EXACTLY as they dictate, fixed field width.  They 
>can't
> > even handle delimited, it must be fixed width fields.  Literally about
>3000
> > bytes per record with all the blank fields just spaces.
> >
>
>
>A suggestion based on bitter experience for when you get round to this.
>Don't try to build the output by concatenation of variable length strings,
>it quickly
>becomes a nightmare to keep track of where you are.
>
>Build the full string first with
>strOutputString = Space$(3000)
>
>Then insert your fields in the correct position with
>Mid$(strOutputString,lngFldPosn) = strFieldData
>
>
>
>
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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Thu Apr  1 23:49:25 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 21:49:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Create table script...so close...SOLVED!!
In-Reply-To: <4435274.1080828891183.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>
Message-ID: <20040402054925.28435.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Paul, Charlotte,
 
both db_Text and adVarChar where incorrect, thnx anyway.
 
The solution is: rapapapa...string! 
debug.print arrFileLayout(y, 6) 
string
 
Go figure.
 
Sander
 
PS: I know can import/export interface files using 4 'main' tables.
tblInterface ( stores interface ID and direction (import/ export)
tblInterfaceData (Staging table: stores every line of the interface)
tblInterfaceLayout (stores the positions/fields/mandetory/PK/FK/etc/etc for every interface added to tblInterface, is also used to check tblInterfaceData for incorrect data)
tblInterfaceDistribution (Stores tags and such (if any) to identify wich line of data must be exported to wich table eg tag JUR0-I must be exported to tbl_GAS_1020_MI) 
 
:-)
 
I know there are a lot of interfaces this stuff doesn't work for but....
 

paul.hartland at fsmail.net wrote:
Just a thought have you tried dbText instead:
arrFileLayout(y, 6) contains the field type (=dbText)
Paul






Message date : Apr 01 2004, 02:57 PM
>From : "S D" 
To : "accessd" 
Copy to : 
Subject : [AccessD] Create table script...so close...
Hi group,

I need to create tables using the layout specified in a certain table. I found the SUB below on msdn.microsoft.com. Changed it a bit and voila the tables are created! HOWEVER, when i specify TEXT the darn thing creates MEMO fields?!? Qua Pasa?

Does anybody know how to change this so that I get proper text fields?
BTW: arrFileLayout(y, 6) contains the field type (=TEXT)
BTW2: I also used the actual word TEXT.

TIA,

Sander

Sub CreateTableX1(ByRef arrFileLayout())
Dim dbs As ADODB.Connection ' Database
Dim y As Integer
Dim strCreateTable As String
Dim strCreate As String
Dim strFields As String

Set dbs = CurrentProject.Connection()
' Create a table with two text fields.
strCreate = "CREATE TABLE ThisTable "
For y = 0 To UBound(arrFileLayout, 1)
'Debug.Print (arrFileLayout(y, 0))
strFields = strFields & arrFileLayout(y, 0) & arrFileLayout(y, 6) & ","
Next y

'remove last ,
strFields = Mid(strFields, 1, Len(strFields) - 1)
Debug.Print strFields

'Build sql
strCreateTable = strCreate & "(" & strFields & ")"
Debug.Print strCreateTable

'execute the blody thing
dbs.Execute strCreateTable

dbs.Close
End Sub






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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Thu Apr  1 23:54:27 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 21:54:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data ?
In-Reply-To: <65EB528406CCD211BE8F00902717D23D0795CA9D@perscomex31.hoffman.army.mil>
Message-ID: <20040402055427.30545.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>

Hihi here we go again. Everybody uses a different approach and they all work!
Some are more complex then others and in some cases (way) too heavy, how's that sledgehammer John ;-) but they all help!
 
thnx a lot.
 
Now all i have to do is do a LOT of documenting and then it's of to find myself a weddingsuit!
 
regards,
 
sander

"Brock, Christian T, HRC-Alexandria" <Christian.Brock at hoffman.army.mil> wrote:
The copy record and paste append commands will get every form field and
subform. Do not see how what you say to do provides any benefit over using
the three DoCmd.RunCommand statements.

Christian Brock



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From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Thursday, 01 April 2004 10:49
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?


...that "wizard" simply bites ...I'd create a "duplicate" button that saves
the pk of the current record to a variable or tag and then a query using the
saved pk to append a "new" record that is a duplicate of the saved one
except for the pk ...that would get you a dupe of every form field including
any subform.

William Hindman
ipsedixitism: something is true because I myself have said it is true ...the
philosophy of Noam Chomsky :)

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To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"

Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:22 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?


> Why go to the trouble? From the statement of intent, What the user really
> wants is a duplicate current record button, instead of a new record
button.
> The Access XP command button wizard will allow you to create a button that
> will duplicate the current record.
>
> It creates the following lines of code
> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 8, , acMenuVer70
> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 2, , acMenuVer70
> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 5, , acMenuVer70 'Paste Append
>
> Obviously MS did not update the wizard to use readable code. The
following
> will work as well.
> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSelectRecord
> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCopy
> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdPasteAppend
>
>
> Christian Brock
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
> Sent: Thursday, 01 April 2004 09:36
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data?
>
>
> Hi Tina
>
> > I begin to understand. At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event
> > Procedure will set the DefaultValue of each TextBox to the values
> > determined to already be stored in the record just saved. Is that
> > correct?
>
> Yes and no. No saving needs to take place:
>
> At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event Procedure will set the
> DefaultValue of each TextBox (or ComboBox etc.) to the values for the
> current record of those controls.
>
> > Does this require explicitly listing each TextBox of the form?
>
> Yes.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> >>>How does one set the DefautlValue at OnCurrent? I don't know how to do
> >>>that.
> >>
> >>That's not difficult - something like this:
> >>
> >> Dim txt As TextBox
> >> Set txt = Me!txtYourTextBox
> >>
> >> txt.DefaultValue = txt.Value
> >>
> >> Set txt = Nothing
> >>
> >>However, DefaultValue should be a string which means that if your
> >>textbox contains decimals or a date/time value you must be careful and
> >>convert to a string in US format:
> >>
> >> txt.DefaultValue = LTrim(Str(txt.Value))
> >>
> >>or
> >>
> >> txt.DefaultValue = _
> >> Format(txt.Value, "\#mm\/dd\/yyyy hh\:nn\:ss AM/PM\#")
> >>
> >>/gustav
> >>
> >>>>Tough day? No coffee?
> >>>>
> >>>>Set the DefaultValue at OnCurrent.
> >>>>
> >>>>As for Stuart's note on the KeyPreview, it's not a user feature, but a
> >>>>property of the form.
> >>>>
> >>>>/gustav
> >>>>
> >>>>>when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data
of
> the current record to be displayed in the new record.
> >>>>>So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA and
> then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear with
> the field username filled with AAA.
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Apr  2 00:01:57 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 22:01:57 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data ?
References: <20040402055427.30545.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <032301c41878$01b7c760$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

"...find myself a weddingsuit!"

Spectator or victim?

Rocky

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To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 9:54 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data ?


> Hihi here we go again. Everybody uses a different approach and they all
work!
> Some are more complex then others and in some cases (way) too heavy, how's
that sledgehammer John ;-) but they all help!
>
> thnx a lot.
>
> Now all i have to do is do a LOT of documenting and then it's of to find
myself a weddingsuit!
>
> regards,
>
> sander
>
> "Brock, Christian T, HRC-Alexandria" <Christian.Brock at hoffman.army.mil>
wrote:
> The copy record and paste append commands will get every form field and
> subform. Do not see how what you say to do provides any benefit over using
> the three DoCmd.RunCommand statements.
>
> Christian Brock
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Thursday, 01 April 2004 10:49
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data?
>
>
> ...that "wizard" simply bites ...I'd create a "duplicate" button that
saves
> the pk of the current record to a variable or tag and then a query using
the
> saved pk to append a "new" record that is a duplicate of the saved one
> except for the pk ...that would get you a dupe of every form field
including
> any subform.
>
> William Hindman
> ipsedixitism: something is true because I myself have said it is true
...the
> philosophy of Noam Chomsky :)
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Brock, Christian T, HRC-Alexandria"
>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>
> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:22 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data?
>
>
> > Why go to the trouble? From the statement of intent, What the user
really
> > wants is a duplicate current record button, instead of a new record
> button.
> > The Access XP command button wizard will allow you to create a button
that
> > will duplicate the current record.
> >
> > It creates the following lines of code
> > DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 8, , acMenuVer70
> > DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 2, , acMenuVer70
> > DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 5, , acMenuVer70 'Paste Append
> >
> > Obviously MS did not update the wizard to use readable code. The
> following
> > will work as well.
> > DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSelectRecord
> > DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCopy
> > DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdPasteAppend
> >
> >
> > Christian Brock
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
> > Sent: Thursday, 01 April 2004 09:36
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
> data?
> >
> >
> > Hi Tina
> >
> > > I begin to understand. At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event
> > > Procedure will set the DefaultValue of each TextBox to the values
> > > determined to already be stored in the record just saved. Is that
> > > correct?
> >
> > Yes and no. No saving needs to take place:
> >
> > At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event Procedure will set the
> > DefaultValue of each TextBox (or ComboBox etc.) to the values for the
> > current record of those controls.
> >
> > > Does this require explicitly listing each TextBox of the form?
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > /gustav
> >
> >
> > >>>How does one set the DefautlValue at OnCurrent? I don't know how to
do
> > >>>that.
> > >>
> > >>That's not difficult - something like this:
> > >>
> > >> Dim txt As TextBox
> > >> Set txt = Me!txtYourTextBox
> > >>
> > >> txt.DefaultValue = txt.Value
> > >>
> > >> Set txt = Nothing
> > >>
> > >>However, DefaultValue should be a string which means that if your
> > >>textbox contains decimals or a date/time value you must be careful and
> > >>convert to a string in US format:
> > >>
> > >> txt.DefaultValue = LTrim(Str(txt.Value))
> > >>
> > >>or
> > >>
> > >> txt.DefaultValue = _
> > >> Format(txt.Value, "\#mm\/dd\/yyyy hh\:nn\:ss AM/PM\#")
> > >>
> > >>/gustav
> > >>
> > >>>>Tough day? No coffee?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Set the DefaultValue at OnCurrent.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>As for Stuart's note on the KeyPreview, it's not a user feature, but
a
> > >>>>property of the form.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>/gustav
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data
> of
> > the current record to be displayed in the new record.
> > >>>>>So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA
and
> > then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear
with
> > the field username filled with AAA.
> >
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From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr  2 00:12:22 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 01:12:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?
References: <65EB528406CCD211BE8F00902717D23D0795CA9D@perscomex31.hoffman.army.mil>
Message-ID: <000501c41879$76782030$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...because Christian, I was never able to make the RunCommand version work
consistently in A97 and never tried using it in XP since I already had
working code  ...if you've got an actual sample where the RunCommands work
to dupe both the main form record and subs, I'd like to see it :)

William Hindman
ipsedixitism: something is true because I myself have said it is true ...the
philosophy of Noam Chomsky :)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brock, Christian T, HRC-Alexandria"
<Christian.Brock at hoffman.army.mil>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 11:24 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?


> The copy record and paste append commands will get every form field and
> subform.  Do not see how what you say to do provides any benefit over
using
> the three DoCmd.RunCommand statements.
>
> Christian Brock
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Thursday, 01 April 2004 10:49
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data?
>
>
> ...that "wizard" simply bites ...I'd create a "duplicate" button that
saves
> the pk of the current record to a variable or tag and then a query using
the
> saved pk to append a "new" record that is a duplicate of the saved one
> except for the pk ...that would get you a dupe of every form field
including
> any subform.
>
> William Hindman
> ipsedixitism: something is true because I myself have said it is true
...the
> philosophy of Noam Chomsky :)
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Brock, Christian T, HRC-Alexandria"
> <Christian.Brock at hoffman.army.mil>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:22 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data?
>
>
> > Why go to the trouble?  From the statement of intent, What the user
really
> > wants is a duplicate current record button, instead of a new record
> button.
> > The Access XP command button wizard will allow you to create a button
that
> > will duplicate the current record.
> >
> > It creates the following lines of code
> >     DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 8, , acMenuVer70
> >     DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 2, , acMenuVer70
> >     DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 5, , acMenuVer70 'Paste
Append
> >
> > Obviously MS did not update the wizard to use readable code.  The
> following
> > will work as well.
> >     DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSelectRecord
> >     DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCopy
> >     DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdPasteAppend
> >
> >
> > Christian Brock
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
> > Sent: Thursday, 01 April 2004 09:36
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
> data?
> >
> >
> > Hi Tina
> >
> > > I begin to understand.  At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event
> > > Procedure will set the DefaultValue of each TextBox to the values
> > > determined to already be stored in the record just saved.  Is that
> > > correct?
> >
> > Yes and no. No saving needs to take place:
> >
> > At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event Procedure will set the
> > DefaultValue of each TextBox (or ComboBox etc.) to the values for the
> > current record of those controls.
> >
> > > Does this require explicitly listing each TextBox of the form?
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > /gustav
> >
> >
> > >>>How does one set the DefautlValue at OnCurrent?  I don't know how to
do
> > >>>that.
> > >>
> > >>That's not difficult - something like this:
> > >>
> > >>  Dim txt As TextBox
> > >>  Set txt = Me!txtYourTextBox
> > >>
> > >>  txt.DefaultValue = txt.Value
> > >>
> > >>  Set txt = Nothing
> > >>
> > >>However, DefaultValue should be a string which means that if your
> > >>textbox contains decimals or a date/time value you must be careful and
> > >>convert to a string in US format:
> > >>
> > >>  txt.DefaultValue = LTrim(Str(txt.Value))
> > >>
> > >>or
> > >>
> > >>  txt.DefaultValue = _
> > >>    Format(txt.Value, "\#mm\/dd\/yyyy hh\:nn\:ss AM/PM\#")
> > >>
> > >>/gustav
> > >>
> > >>>>Tough day? No coffee?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Set the DefaultValue at OnCurrent.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>As for Stuart's note on the KeyPreview, it's not a user feature, but
a
> > >>>>property of the form.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>/gustav
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data
> of
> > the current record to be displayed in the new record.
> > >>>>>So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA
and
> > then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear
with
> > the field username filled with AAA.
> >
> > -- 
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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Fri Apr  2 01:06:12 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 23:06:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG
Message-ID: <20040402070612.57615.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi group,
 
I've got a combobox based on a query:
SELECT DISTINCT [TblArbo].[Datum]
FROM TblArbo
ORDER BY [TblArbo].[Datum] DESC;
Resulted in:
01-10-2003
02-09-2003
21-08-2001
 
The user asked if this could be printed in the following format: dd-mmm-yyyy
No problem, says stupid me:
SELECT DISTINCT Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy")
FROM TblArbo
ORDER BY Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy") DESC;
 
But now the ORDER BY ONLY checks the DD part?!?!?!?!
So this results in:
21-08-2001

02-09-2003
01-10-2003
?!!??! What kind of nonsense is this?
 
Sander


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From thevigil at kabelfoon.nl  Fri Apr  2 01:39:06 2004
From: thevigil at kabelfoon.nl (Bert-Jan Brinkhuis)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 09:39:06 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG
References: <20040402070612.57615.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001101c41885$9650a100$3f412d3e@jester>

Hi Sander,

i do not know what kind of nonsense that is, but i have a workaround for
you.

Add the original unformated [datum] field to your query and order on that
field.
Make sure you do not display that column in the combobox!

HTH

Bert-Jan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "S D" <accessd667 at yahoo.com>
To: "accessd" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 9:06 AM
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG


> Hi group,
>
> I've got a combobox based on a query:
> SELECT DISTINCT [TblArbo].[Datum]
> FROM TblArbo
> ORDER BY [TblArbo].[Datum] DESC;
> Resulted in:
> 01-10-2003
> 02-09-2003
> 21-08-2001
>
> The user asked if this could be printed in the following format:
dd-mmm-yyyy
> No problem, says stupid me:
> SELECT DISTINCT Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy")
> FROM TblArbo
> ORDER BY Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy") DESC;
>
> But now the ORDER BY ONLY checks the DD part?!?!?!?!
> So this results in:
> 21-08-2001
>
> 02-09-2003
> 01-10-2003
> ?!!??! What kind of nonsense is this?
>
> Sander
>
>
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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Fri Apr  2 02:49:12 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 00:49:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG
In-Reply-To: <001101c41885$9650a100$3f412d3e@jester>
Message-ID: <20040402084912.20282.qmail@web61101.mail.yahoo.com>

Bedankt :-) Bert
 
Only problem is that the user's decided that they want this format for every date in the app. So I started changing stuff like you mentioned...Worked like a charm except 1 form. Here is the Rowsource dynamic. It is determined via a lot of selections.
 
I'll have to figure this one out...
 
Sander

Bert-Jan Brinkhuis <thevigil at kabelfoon.nl> wrote:
Hi Sander,

i do not know what kind of nonsense that is, but i have a workaround for
you.

Add the original unformated [datum] field to your query and order on that
field.
Make sure you do not display that column in the combobox!

HTH

Bert-Jan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "S D" 
To: "accessd" 
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 9:06 AM
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG


> Hi group,
>
> I've got a combobox based on a query:
> SELECT DISTINCT [TblArbo].[Datum]
> FROM TblArbo
> ORDER BY [TblArbo].[Datum] DESC;
> Resulted in:
> 01-10-2003
> 02-09-2003
> 21-08-2001
>
> The user asked if this could be printed in the following format:
dd-mmm-yyyy
> No problem, says stupid me:
> SELECT DISTINCT Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy")
> FROM TblArbo
> ORDER BY Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy") DESC;
>
> But now the ORDER BY ONLY checks the DD part?!?!?!?!
> So this results in:
> 21-08-2001
>
> 02-09-2003
> 01-10-2003
> ?!!??! What kind of nonsense is this?
>
> Sander
>
>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr  2 02:46:05 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 10:46:05 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Transfer text field name
In-Reply-To: <BAY2-F70yKFRJrzdDW60003ef8c@hotmail.com>
References: <BAY2-F70yKFRJrzdDW60003ef8c@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <776625977.20040402104605@cactus.dk>

Hi John and J?rgen

This is a very nice article, and I too can strongly advocate the use of
user defined types; but also have an eye on RSet because - as Stuart
notes - you may have fields (numbers) which need to be right
justified.

Also, as Stuart suggests, the use of Mid() is highly recommended,
indeed for long string.

/gustav


> You may want to look at lset for fixed width data files:

> http://www.vbwm.com/art_2001/UDT05/

> is an example.

> Ciao
> J?rgen Welz
> Edmonton, Alberta
> jwelz at hotmail.com



From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr  2 02:57:33 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 10:57:33 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG
In-Reply-To: <20040402070612.57615.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20040402070612.57615.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <267314707.20040402105733@cactus.dk>

Hi Sander

Your "stupid" test is correct as it sorts DESC on a string.

Try this which I think is what Bert-Jan has in mind:

  SELECT DISTINCT
    Format([TblArbo].[Datum], "dd-mmm-yyyy")
  FROM
    TblArbo
  ORDER BY
    [TblArbo].[Datum] DESC;

/gustav


> I've got a combobox based on a query:
> SELECT DISTINCT [TblArbo].[Datum]
> FROM TblArbo
> ORDER BY [TblArbo].[Datum] DESC;
> Resulted in:
> 01-10-2003
> 02-09-2003
> 21-08-2001
 
> The user asked if this could be printed in the following format: dd-mmm-yyyy
> No problem, says stupid me:
> SELECT DISTINCT Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy")
> FROM TblArbo
> ORDER BY Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy") DESC;
 
> But now the ORDER BY ONLY checks the DD part?!?!?!?!
> So this results in:
> 21-08-2001

> 02-09-2003
> 01-10-2003
> ?!!??! What kind of nonsense is this?



From thevigil at kabelfoon.nl  Fri Apr  2 03:04:41 2004
From: thevigil at kabelfoon.nl (Bert-Jan Brinkhuis)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 11:04:41 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG
References: <20040402084912.20282.qmail@web61101.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003601c41891$8965ef20$3f412d3e@jester>

Graag gedaan :-) Sander

How is the rowsource dynamic? Do you make an sql string dynamically and make
that the rowsource?

Bert-Jan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "S D" <accessd667 at yahoo.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG


> Bedankt :-) Bert
>
> Only problem is that the user's decided that they want this format for
every date in the app. So I started changing stuff like you
mentioned...Worked like a charm except 1 form. Here is the Rowsource
dynamic. It is determined via a lot of selections.
>
> I'll have to figure this one out...
>
> Sander
>
> Bert-Jan Brinkhuis <thevigil at kabelfoon.nl> wrote:
> Hi Sander,
>
> i do not know what kind of nonsense that is, but i have a workaround for
> you.
>
> Add the original unformated [datum] field to your query and order on that
> field.
> Make sure you do not display that column in the combobox!
>
> HTH
>
> Bert-Jan
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "S D"
> To: "accessd"
> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 9:06 AM
> Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG
>
>
> > Hi group,
> >
> > I've got a combobox based on a query:
> > SELECT DISTINCT [TblArbo].[Datum]
> > FROM TblArbo
> > ORDER BY [TblArbo].[Datum] DESC;
> > Resulted in:
> > 01-10-2003
> > 02-09-2003
> > 21-08-2001
> >
> > The user asked if this could be printed in the following format:
> dd-mmm-yyyy
> > No problem, says stupid me:
> > SELECT DISTINCT Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy")
> > FROM TblArbo
> > ORDER BY Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy") DESC;
> >
> > But now the ORDER BY ONLY checks the DD part?!?!?!?!
> > So this results in:
> > 21-08-2001
> >
> > 02-09-2003
> > 01-10-2003
> > ?!!??! What kind of nonsense is this?
> >
> > Sander
> >
> >
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr  2 04:22:55 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 12:22:55 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Portugal
Message-ID: <3812436152.20040402122255@cactus.dk>

Hi all

I'll be visiting Portugal next week.

Would any listers be present in the Lisboa area to meet for a glass of
port?

/gustav



From djkr at msn.com  Fri Apr  2 04:33:25 2004
From: djkr at msn.com (DJK(John) Robinson)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 11:33:25 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Portugal
In-Reply-To: <3812436152.20040402122255@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <001e01c4189d$edcc5560$3500a8c0@dabsight>

Only in spirit(!)  Have one for me.  It's a lovely city.

John


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Gustav Brock
> Sent: 02 April 2004 11:23
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Portugal
> 
> 
> Hi all
> 
> I'll be visiting Portugal next week.
> 
> Would any listers be present in the Lisboa area to meet for a 
> glass of port?
> 
> /gustav
> 
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From paulo at esb.ucp.pt  Fri Apr  2 05:01:44 2004
From: paulo at esb.ucp.pt (Paulo Alexandre Ramos)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 12:01:44 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Portugal
In-Reply-To: <3812436152.20040402122255@cactus.dk>
References: <3812436152.20040402122255@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20C9036E-8495-11D8-BE6F-000A9580E9F4@esb.ucp.pt>

Only if you come to Porto :-)


I'm here and I will be glad take you to the places of Porto wine is 
stored.


Paulo

On Apr 2, 2004, at 11:22 AM, Gustav Brock wrote:

> Hi all
>
> I'll be visiting Portugal next week.
>
> Would any listers be present in the Lisboa area to meet for a glass of
> port?
>
> /gustav
>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr  2 05:40:38 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 13:40:38 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Portugal
In-Reply-To: <20C9036E-8495-11D8-BE6F-000A9580E9F4@esb.ucp.pt>
References: <3812436152.20040402122255@cactus.dk>
	<20C9036E-8495-11D8-BE6F-000A9580E9F4@esb.ucp.pt>
Message-ID: <1017099017.20040402134038@cactus.dk>

Hi Paulo

> Only if you come to Porto :-)

We have not decided yet. Our traveling plan is relaxed and not fixed.
I'll contact you off-line!

/gustav


> I'm here and I will be glad take you to the places of Porto wine is 
> stored.


> Paulo

> On Apr 2, 2004, at 11:22 AM, Gustav Brock wrote:

>> Hi all
>>
>> I'll be visiting Portugal next week.
>>
>> Would any listers be present in the Lisboa area to meet for a glass of
>> port?
>>
>> /gustav



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Apr  2 07:28:53 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 08:28:53 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data ?
In-Reply-To: <20040402055427.30545.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPCEEBHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Sander,

>Some are more complex then others and in some cases (way) too heavy, how's
that sledgehammer John ;-) but they all help!

While I can appreciate personal opinion I have to ask how putting reusable
code into a framework is (way) too heavy?

In the beginning was assembler, and all was right.  But there was no
structure and it took forever to write code, so higher level languages were
designed with functions and dimensioned variables.  Of course there were
those who scoffed at the overhead, and how slow it ran, but in general it
was accepted as a good thing and was taught in schools and used by many
programmers.  But there were still many problems that remained and concepts
such as objects, and classes and inheritance were designed.  Of course there
were those who scoffed at the overhead, and how slow it ran, but in general
it was accepted as a good thing, and was taught in school and used by many
programmers.

Re-use, encapsulation, and all that stuff is (now) widely accepted practice.
Whether or not you personally like these practices is only relevant to you
(and the cost to your client of course).

Have you ever heard of Steve Gibson of Spin Right fame?  He does all his
programming in assembler!  Hmm... ok.  For his purposes that is apparently
just right, but it doesn't mean I want to do that.

A framework is nothing more or less that reusability / encapsulation taken
to the next level.  It isn't like I invented the concept - ever heard of
.NET?  Can you say FRAMEWORK?.

When you "attack" using a framework you are simply demonstrating a
preference for a way of doing things that may be better for your purposes
but definitely is NOT better for my purposes, nor I suspect, for many other
people.

>how's that sledgehammer John

Just fine thanks.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:54 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data ?


Hihi here we go again. Everybody uses a different approach and they all
work!
Some are more complex then others and in some cases (way) too heavy, how's
that sledgehammer John ;-) but they all help!

thnx a lot.

Now all i have to do is do a LOT of documenting and then it's of to find
myself a weddingsuit!

regards,

sander

"Brock, Christian T, HRC-Alexandria" <Christian.Brock at hoffman.army.mil>
wrote:
The copy record and paste append commands will get every form field and
subform. Do not see how what you say to do provides any benefit over using
the three DoCmd.RunCommand statements.

Christian Brock



-----Original Message-----
From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, 01 April 2004 10:49
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?


...that "wizard" simply bites ...I'd create a "duplicate" button that saves
the pk of the current record to a variable or tag and then a query using the
saved pk to append a "new" record that is a duplicate of the saved one
except for the pk ...that would get you a dupe of every form field including
any subform.

William Hindman
ipsedixitism: something is true because I myself have said it is true ...the
philosophy of Noam Chomsky :)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brock, Christian T, HRC-Alexandria"

To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"

Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:22 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?


> Why go to the trouble? From the statement of intent, What the user really
> wants is a duplicate current record button, instead of a new record
button.
> The Access XP command button wizard will allow you to create a button that
> will duplicate the current record.
>
> It creates the following lines of code
> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 8, , acMenuVer70
> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 2, , acMenuVer70
> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 5, , acMenuVer70 'Paste Append
>
> Obviously MS did not update the wizard to use readable code. The
following
> will work as well.
> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSelectRecord
> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCopy
> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdPasteAppend
>
>
> Christian Brock
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
> Sent: Thursday, 01 April 2004 09:36
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data?
>
>
> Hi Tina
>
> > I begin to understand. At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event
> > Procedure will set the DefaultValue of each TextBox to the values
> > determined to already be stored in the record just saved. Is that
> > correct?
>
> Yes and no. No saving needs to take place:
>
> At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event Procedure will set the
> DefaultValue of each TextBox (or ComboBox etc.) to the values for the
> current record of those controls.
>
> > Does this require explicitly listing each TextBox of the form?
>
> Yes.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> >>>How does one set the DefautlValue at OnCurrent? I don't know how to do
> >>>that.
> >>
> >>That's not difficult - something like this:
> >>
> >> Dim txt As TextBox
> >> Set txt = Me!txtYourTextBox
> >>
> >> txt.DefaultValue = txt.Value
> >>
> >> Set txt = Nothing
> >>
> >>However, DefaultValue should be a string which means that if your
> >>textbox contains decimals or a date/time value you must be careful and
> >>convert to a string in US format:
> >>
> >> txt.DefaultValue = LTrim(Str(txt.Value))
> >>
> >>or
> >>
> >> txt.DefaultValue = _
> >> Format(txt.Value, "\#mm\/dd\/yyyy hh\:nn\:ss AM/PM\#")
> >>
> >>/gustav
> >>
> >>>>Tough day? No coffee?
> >>>>
> >>>>Set the DefaultValue at OnCurrent.
> >>>>
> >>>>As for Stuart's note on the KeyPreview, it's not a user feature, but a
> >>>>property of the form.
> >>>>
> >>>>/gustav
> >>>>
> >>>>>when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data
of
> the current record to be displayed in the new record.
> >>>>>So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA and
> then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear with
> the field username filled with AAA.
>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr  2 07:47:12 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 15:47:12 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Portugal
In-Reply-To: <001e01c4189d$edcc5560$3500a8c0@dabsight>
References: <001e01c4189d$edcc5560$3500a8c0@dabsight>
Message-ID: <18324693457.20040402154712@cactus.dk>

Hi John

OK. I'll have you in mind!

/gustav


> Only in spirit(!)  Have one for me.  It's a lovely city.

> John


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
>> Gustav Brock
>> Sent: 02 April 2004 11:23
>> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>> Subject: [AccessD] Portugal
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all
>> 
>> I'll be visiting Portugal next week.
>> 
>> Would any listers be present in the Lisboa area to meet for a 
>> glass of port?
>> 
>> /gustav



From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Fri Apr  2 07:48:09 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 05:48:09 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG
In-Reply-To: <267314707.20040402105733@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20040402134809.45618.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi gustav,
 
I've solved the problem. Twas a nasty one.
but euh try it if you want. create a table with a date field like below and run the query...no go!
 
Thanx anyway.
 
Sander


Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
Hi Sander

Your "stupid" test is correct as it sorts DESC on a string.

Try this which I think is what Bert-Jan has in mind:

SELECT DISTINCT
Format([TblArbo].[Datum], "dd-mmm-yyyy")
FROM
TblArbo
ORDER BY
[TblArbo].[Datum] DESC;

/gustav


> I've got a combobox based on a query:
> SELECT DISTINCT [TblArbo].[Datum]
> FROM TblArbo
> ORDER BY [TblArbo].[Datum] DESC;
> Resulted in:
> 01-10-2003
> 02-09-2003
> 21-08-2001

> The user asked if this could be printed in the following format: dd-mmm-yyyy
> No problem, says stupid me:
> SELECT DISTINCT Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy")
> FROM TblArbo
> ORDER BY Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy") DESC;

> But now the ORDER BY ONLY checks the DD part?!?!?!?!
> So this results in:
> 21-08-2001

> 02-09-2003
> 01-10-2003
> ?!!??! What kind of nonsense is this?

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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Fri Apr  2 07:49:46 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 05:49:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG
In-Reply-To: <003601c41891$8965ef20$3f412d3e@jester>
Message-ID: <20040402134946.77115.qmail@web61110.mail.yahoo.com>

Yep, that's it....however, like everything in this app...it doesn't work!
 
Sander

Bert-Jan Brinkhuis <thevigil at kabelfoon.nl> wrote:
Graag gedaan :-) Sander

How is the rowsource dynamic? Do you make an sql string dynamically and make
that the rowsource?

Bert-Jan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "S D" 
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"

Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG


> Bedankt :-) Bert
>
> Only problem is that the user's decided that they want this format for
every date in the app. So I started changing stuff like you
mentioned...Worked like a charm except 1 form. Here is the Rowsource
dynamic. It is determined via a lot of selections.
>
> I'll have to figure this one out...
>
> Sander
>
> Bert-Jan Brinkhuis wrote:
> Hi Sander,
>
> i do not know what kind of nonsense that is, but i have a workaround for
> you.
>
> Add the original unformated [datum] field to your query and order on that
> field.
> Make sure you do not display that column in the combobox!
>
> HTH
>
> Bert-Jan
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "S D"
> To: "accessd"
> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 9:06 AM
> Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG
>
>
> > Hi group,
> >
> > I've got a combobox based on a query:
> > SELECT DISTINCT [TblArbo].[Datum]
> > FROM TblArbo
> > ORDER BY [TblArbo].[Datum] DESC;
> > Resulted in:
> > 01-10-2003
> > 02-09-2003
> > 21-08-2001
> >
> > The user asked if this could be printed in the following format:
> dd-mmm-yyyy
> > No problem, says stupid me:
> > SELECT DISTINCT Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy")
> > FROM TblArbo
> > ORDER BY Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy") DESC;
> >
> > But now the ORDER BY ONLY checks the DD part?!?!?!?!
> > So this results in:
> > 21-08-2001
> >
> > 02-09-2003
> > 01-10-2003
> > ?!!??! What kind of nonsense is this?
> >
> > Sander
> >
> >
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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Fri Apr  2 07:54:48 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 05:54:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data ?
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPCEEBHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <20040402135448.38639.qmail@web61107.mail.yahoo.com>

John (and others)
 
I didn't mean to offend anybody but I think i'm in a different line of work.  Where doing maintenance on EXISTING apps. We don't build them ourselves (we also do that but not for this customer)
 
Frameworks are GREAT! I'm playing around with you're examples a lot and I love it. But it's (almost) impossible to implement these in existing apps without rebuilding them from scratch. Extra problem here is that everything is on a very tight budget. 
 
Anyways, thnx for the reply.
 
Regards,
 
Sander 

"John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
Sander,

>Some are more complex then others and in some cases (way) too heavy, how's
that sledgehammer John ;-) but they all help!

While I can appreciate personal opinion I have to ask how putting reusable
code into a framework is (way) too heavy?

In the beginning was assembler, and all was right. But there was no
structure and it took forever to write code, so higher level languages were
designed with functions and dimensioned variables. Of course there were
those who scoffed at the overhead, and how slow it ran, but in general it
was accepted as a good thing and was taught in schools and used by many
programmers. But there were still many problems that remained and concepts
such as objects, and classes and inheritance were designed. Of course there
were those who scoffed at the overhead, and how slow it ran, but in general
it was accepted as a good thing, and was taught in school and used by many
programmers.

Re-use, encapsulation, and all that stuff is (now) widely accepted practice.
Whether or not you personally like these practices is only relevant to you
(and the cost to your client of course).

Have you ever heard of Steve Gibson of Spin Right fame? He does all his
programming in assembler! Hmm... ok. For his purposes that is apparently
just right, but it doesn't mean I want to do that.

A framework is nothing more or less that reusability / encapsulation taken
to the next level. It isn't like I invented the concept - ever heard of
.NET? Can you say FRAMEWORK?.

When you "attack" using a framework you are simply demonstrating a
preference for a way of doing things that may be better for your purposes
but definitely is NOT better for my purposes, nor I suspect, for many other
people.

>how's that sledgehammer John

Just fine thanks.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:54 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data ?


Hihi here we go again. Everybody uses a different approach and they all
work!
Some are more complex then others and in some cases (way) too heavy, how's
that sledgehammer John ;-) but they all help!

thnx a lot.

Now all i have to do is do a LOT of documenting and then it's of to find
myself a weddingsuit!

regards,

sander

"Brock, Christian T, HRC-Alexandria" 
wrote:
The copy record and paste append commands will get every form field and
subform. Do not see how what you say to do provides any benefit over using
the three DoCmd.RunCommand statements.

Christian Brock



-----Original Message-----
From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, 01 April 2004 10:49
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?


...that "wizard" simply bites ...I'd create a "duplicate" button that saves
the pk of the current record to a variable or tag and then a query using the
saved pk to append a "new" record that is a duplicate of the saved one
except for the pk ...that would get you a dupe of every form field including
any subform.

William Hindman
ipsedixitism: something is true because I myself have said it is true ...the
philosophy of Noam Chomsky :)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brock, Christian T, HRC-Alexandria"

To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"

Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:22 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?


> Why go to the trouble? From the statement of intent, What the user really
> wants is a duplicate current record button, instead of a new record
button.
> The Access XP command button wizard will allow you to create a button that
> will duplicate the current record.
>
> It creates the following lines of code
> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 8, , acMenuVer70
> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 2, , acMenuVer70
> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 5, , acMenuVer70 'Paste Append
>
> Obviously MS did not update the wizard to use readable code. The
following
> will work as well.
> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSelectRecord
> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCopy
> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdPasteAppend
>
>
> Christian Brock
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
> Sent: Thursday, 01 April 2004 09:36
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data?
>
>
> Hi Tina
>
> > I begin to understand. At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event
> > Procedure will set the DefaultValue of each TextBox to the values
> > determined to already be stored in the record just saved. Is that
> > correct?
>
> Yes and no. No saving needs to take place:
>
> At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event Procedure will set the
> DefaultValue of each TextBox (or ComboBox etc.) to the values for the
> current record of those controls.
>
> > Does this require explicitly listing each TextBox of the form?
>
> Yes.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> >>>How does one set the DefautlValue at OnCurrent? I don't know how to do
> >>>that.
> >>
> >>That's not difficult - something like this:
> >>
> >> Dim txt As TextBox
> >> Set txt = Me!txtYourTextBox
> >>
> >> txt.DefaultValue = txt.Value
> >>
> >> Set txt = Nothing
> >>
> >>However, DefaultValue should be a string which means that if your
> >>textbox contains decimals or a date/time value you must be careful and
> >>convert to a string in US format:
> >>
> >> txt.DefaultValue = LTrim(Str(txt.Value))
> >>
> >>or
> >>
> >> txt.DefaultValue = _
> >> Format(txt.Value, "\#mm\/dd\/yyyy hh\:nn\:ss AM/PM\#")
> >>
> >>/gustav
> >>
> >>>>Tough day? No coffee?
> >>>>
> >>>>Set the DefaultValue at OnCurrent.
> >>>>
> >>>>As for Stuart's note on the KeyPreview, it's not a user feature, but a
> >>>>property of the form.
> >>>>
> >>>>/gustav
> >>>>
> >>>>>when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data
of
> the current record to be displayed in the new record.
> >>>>>So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA and
> then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear with
> the field username filled with AAA.
>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr  2 07:57:22 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 15:57:22 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG
In-Reply-To: <20040402134809.45618.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20040402134809.45618.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4425303804.20040402155722@cactus.dk>

Hi Sander

Well - but what is the bug and how did you solve it?

/gustav


> Hi gustav,
 
> I've solved the problem. Twas a nasty one.
> but euh try it if you want. create a table with a date field like below and run the query...no go!
 
> Thanx anyway.
 
> Sander


> Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi Sander

> Your "stupid" test is correct as it sorts DESC on a string.

> Try this which I think is what Bert-Jan has in mind:

> SELECT DISTINCT
> Format([TblArbo].[Datum], "dd-mmm-yyyy")
> FROM
> TblArbo
> ORDER BY
> [TblArbo].[Datum] DESC;

> /gustav


>> I've got a combobox based on a query:
>> SELECT DISTINCT [TblArbo].[Datum]
>> FROM TblArbo
>> ORDER BY [TblArbo].[Datum] DESC;
>> Resulted in:
>> 01-10-2003
>> 02-09-2003
>> 21-08-2001

>> The user asked if this could be printed in the following format: dd-mmm-yyyy
>> No problem, says stupid me:
>> SELECT DISTINCT Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy")
>> FROM TblArbo
>> ORDER BY Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy") DESC;

>> But now the ORDER BY ONLY checks the DD part?!?!?!?!
>> So this results in:
>> 21-08-2001

>> 02-09-2003
>> 01-10-2003
>> ?!!??! What kind of nonsense is this?



From deanellis at iprimus.com.au  Fri Apr  2 08:23:32 2004
From: deanellis at iprimus.com.au (Dean Ellis)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 23:53:32 +0930 (Cen. Australia Standard Time)
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Vertical Lines in a Report
Message-ID: <406D7764.000003.72847@jedel>

Everyone,
 
Thanks for your replies to this post.
 
Dazza,  The code you gave me works and I did a similar thing to start with,
the problem i'm having is the height of the line isn't changing with the
Growth of the Memo boxes that are between the two horizontal lines. and
because of this, I get a big gap between the bottom line and the bottom of
the vertical line.
 
The othe rtwo sets of code that were posted worked as well, but they only
gave me the hieght of the line, but it was always the full height of the
detail section of the report. I want to specify the top position to join the
ned of a horizontal line and make the bottom end of the vertical line
postion relative to the size of the text boxes set at "Can Grow" so that the
vertical lines will alway join top and bottom.
 
The replies I got linking me to the websites. that site was interesting
enough however, I have absolutel no idea at what to change to set the
vetical lines to suit my reports
 
Hope I have explaine this.
 
Cheers
 
Dean

From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Fri Apr  2 09:36:41 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 10:36:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Default Printer for Access Report
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30806650@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB3D1@ADGSERVER>

I have found that printing a report (that is checked into SourceSafe, that
is, not updatable) to the Acrobat PDF printer will change the printer from
the default to the PDF printer.  Many times, but not all, the printer will
stay set to the PDF printer unless I go in and change it to the default
printer.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 9:57 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Default Printer for Access Report


By default, the Printer Dialogue box does go to the default printer unless
the report has one specifically specified.  As far as I know, you have no
control over the Printer Dialogue box from within Access.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Geller
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 9:31 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Default Printer for Access Report


Thanks, Doris, that was the problem.  I'm wondering if, as a fail safe
measure, can I write code that would make sure that when that Printer
Dialogue box opens it is always set to go to the default printer?  I'd want
users to be able to pick a different option if they desired, but just as the
default, that the print box would be set to go to the default printer. Where
would I put the code?

--Susan


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 12:03 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Default Printer for Access Report

Open that report in design view and then click on "File" and choose "Page
Setup".  It is possible it get set accidentally when the report was
designed.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Geller
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 12:28 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Default Printer for Access Report


I have a reporting tool built in Access (2002) that is essentially a wizard
where users pick a report, set criteria and then see their output. There are
nearly 100 reports in the app.  When a user choses to print a report, the
default printer that comes up in the print dialog box is the default printer
set on their machine, EXCEPT for one of the reports.  On that one report
only, the default printer that comes up in the dialogue box is a different
printer.  All users get this different printer.  I did not write any code or
make any settings to indicate printer choice.  What could be happening?  How
can I get this one report to print to the user's default printer?

Note:  The only way that users can print a report is with a toolbar PRINT
button that I brings up the dialogue box.  There is no file menu from the
reports and there is no button with a printer icon that sends reports
straight to the printer.

--Susan



Susan B. Geller
Office of Information Systems
College of Continuing Education
University of Minnesota
306 Wesbrook Hall
77 Pleasant Street SE
Minneapolis, MN 55455
Phone:  612-626-4785
Fax:  612-625-2568





From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Apr  2 09:45:53 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 09:45:53 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227A6B@main2.marlow.com>

Because Format() returns a string, so you are telling it to SORT by a
string, not a date.  Your ORDER BY line should just have [TblArbo].[Datum].
Keep the Format in the SELECT line, and you should be good to go.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 1:06 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG


Hi group,
 
I've got a combobox based on a query:
SELECT DISTINCT [TblArbo].[Datum]
FROM TblArbo
ORDER BY [TblArbo].[Datum] DESC;
Resulted in:
01-10-2003
02-09-2003
21-08-2001
 
The user asked if this could be printed in the following format: dd-mmm-yyyy
No problem, says stupid me:
SELECT DISTINCT Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy")
FROM TblArbo
ORDER BY Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy") DESC;
 
But now the ORDER BY ONLY checks the DD part?!?!?!?!
So this results in:
21-08-2001

02-09-2003
01-10-2003
?!!??! What kind of nonsense is this?
 
Sander


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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Fri Apr  2 11:26:11 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 12:26:11 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Input Masks
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB3A@nnse14.nns.com>

Group,

I have several text fields that contain numerical data stored as text.  Will
a numerical input mask have any effect?


Mark


From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr  2 11:30:05 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 12:30:05 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Input Masks
In-Reply-To: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB3A@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <20040402173003.UBMZ1746.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Not sure what you mean by effect -- an input mask simply directs the user to
enter the data in a specific way. It won't change the actual data itself. If
you're needing visual clues to help the user through the data entry process,
input mask is a good way to go. 

Susan H. 

Group,

I have several text fields that contain numerical data stored as text.  Will
a numerical input mask have any effect?




From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Fri Apr  2 11:46:22 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 12:46:22 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Input Masks
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB3B@nnse14.nns.com>

What I was worried about was that an input mask of 000000000 would not work
if used in a text field...but it does...I tested it on a copy of my data.

Thanks,

Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:30 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Input Masks


Not sure what you mean by effect -- an input mask simply directs the user to
enter the data in a specific way. It won't change the actual data itself. If
you're needing visual clues to help the user through the data entry process,
input mask is a good way to go. 

Susan H. 

Group,

I have several text fields that contain numerical data stored as text.  Will
a numerical input mask have any effect?


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Apr  2 15:58:30 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 16:58:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data ?
In-Reply-To: <20040402135448.38639.qmail@web61107.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPCEEGHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

As Lilly Tomlin used to say on Laugh-In

Oh.  Never mind!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 8:55 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data ?


John (and others)

I didn't mean to offend anybody but I think i'm in a different line of work.
Where doing maintenance on EXISTING apps. We don't build them ourselves (we
also do that but not for this customer)

Frameworks are GREAT! I'm playing around with you're examples a lot and I
love it. But it's (almost) impossible to implement these in existing apps
without rebuilding them from scratch. Extra problem here is that everything
is on a very tight budget.

Anyways, thnx for the reply.

Regards,

Sander

"John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
Sander,

>Some are more complex then others and in some cases (way) too heavy, how's
that sledgehammer John ;-) but they all help!

While I can appreciate personal opinion I have to ask how putting reusable
code into a framework is (way) too heavy?

In the beginning was assembler, and all was right. But there was no
structure and it took forever to write code, so higher level languages were
designed with functions and dimensioned variables. Of course there were
those who scoffed at the overhead, and how slow it ran, but in general it
was accepted as a good thing and was taught in schools and used by many
programmers. But there were still many problems that remained and concepts
such as objects, and classes and inheritance were designed. Of course there
were those who scoffed at the overhead, and how slow it ran, but in general
it was accepted as a good thing, and was taught in school and used by many
programmers.

Re-use, encapsulation, and all that stuff is (now) widely accepted practice.
Whether or not you personally like these practices is only relevant to you
(and the cost to your client of course).

Have you ever heard of Steve Gibson of Spin Right fame? He does all his
programming in assembler! Hmm... ok. For his purposes that is apparently
just right, but it doesn't mean I want to do that.

A framework is nothing more or less that reusability / encapsulation taken
to the next level. It isn't like I invented the concept - ever heard of
.NET? Can you say FRAMEWORK?.

When you "attack" using a framework you are simply demonstrating a
preference for a way of doing things that may be better for your purposes
but definitely is NOT better for my purposes, nor I suspect, for many other
people.

>how's that sledgehammer John

Just fine thanks.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:54 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data ?


Hihi here we go again. Everybody uses a different approach and they all
work!
Some are more complex then others and in some cases (way) too heavy, how's
that sledgehammer John ;-) but they all help!

thnx a lot.

Now all i have to do is do a LOT of documenting and then it's of to find
myself a weddingsuit!

regards,

sander

"Brock, Christian T, HRC-Alexandria"
wrote:
The copy record and paste append commands will get every form field and
subform. Do not see how what you say to do provides any benefit over using
the three DoCmd.RunCommand statements.

Christian Brock



-----Original Message-----
From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, 01 April 2004 10:49
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?


...that "wizard" simply bites ...I'd create a "duplicate" button that saves
the pk of the current record to a variable or tag and then a query using the
saved pk to append a "new" record that is a duplicate of the saved one
except for the pk ...that would get you a dupe of every form field including
any subform.

William Hindman
ipsedixitism: something is true because I myself have said it is true ...the
philosophy of Noam Chomsky :)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brock, Christian T, HRC-Alexandria"

To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"

Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:22 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?


> Why go to the trouble? From the statement of intent, What the user really
> wants is a duplicate current record button, instead of a new record
button.
> The Access XP command button wizard will allow you to create a button that
> will duplicate the current record.
>
> It creates the following lines of code
> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 8, , acMenuVer70
> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 2, , acMenuVer70
> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 5, , acMenuVer70 'Paste Append
>
> Obviously MS did not update the wizard to use readable code. The
following
> will work as well.
> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSelectRecord
> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCopy
> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdPasteAppend
>
>
> Christian Brock
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
> Sent: Thursday, 01 April 2004 09:36
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data?
>
>
> Hi Tina
>
> > I begin to understand. At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event
> > Procedure will set the DefaultValue of each TextBox to the values
> > determined to already be stored in the record just saved. Is that
> > correct?
>
> Yes and no. No saving needs to take place:
>
> At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event Procedure will set the
> DefaultValue of each TextBox (or ComboBox etc.) to the values for the
> current record of those controls.
>
> > Does this require explicitly listing each TextBox of the form?
>
> Yes.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> >>>How does one set the DefautlValue at OnCurrent? I don't know how to do
> >>>that.
> >>
> >>That's not difficult - something like this:
> >>
> >> Dim txt As TextBox
> >> Set txt = Me!txtYourTextBox
> >>
> >> txt.DefaultValue = txt.Value
> >>
> >> Set txt = Nothing
> >>
> >>However, DefaultValue should be a string which means that if your
> >>textbox contains decimals or a date/time value you must be careful and
> >>convert to a string in US format:
> >>
> >> txt.DefaultValue = LTrim(Str(txt.Value))
> >>
> >>or
> >>
> >> txt.DefaultValue = _
> >> Format(txt.Value, "\#mm\/dd\/yyyy hh\:nn\:ss AM/PM\#")
> >>
> >>/gustav
> >>
> >>>>Tough day? No coffee?
> >>>>
> >>>>Set the DefaultValue at OnCurrent.
> >>>>
> >>>>As for Stuart's note on the KeyPreview, it's not a user feature, but a
> >>>>property of the form.
> >>>>
> >>>>/gustav
> >>>>
> >>>>>when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data
of
> the current record to be displayed in the new record.
> >>>>>So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA and
> then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear with
> the field username filled with AAA.
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Apr  2 16:43:21 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 17:43:21 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data ?
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPCEEGHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPCEEHHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

uhh... or Gilda Radner on Saturday Night Live?

;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 4:59 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data ?


As Lilly Tomlin used to say on Laugh-In

Oh.  Never mind!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 8:55 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data ?


John (and others)

I didn't mean to offend anybody but I think i'm in a different line of work.
Where doing maintenance on EXISTING apps. We don't build them ourselves (we
also do that but not for this customer)

Frameworks are GREAT! I'm playing around with you're examples a lot and I
love it. But it's (almost) impossible to implement these in existing apps
without rebuilding them from scratch. Extra problem here is that everything
is on a very tight budget.

Anyways, thnx for the reply.

Regards,

Sander

"John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
Sander,

>Some are more complex then others and in some cases (way) too heavy, how's
that sledgehammer John ;-) but they all help!

While I can appreciate personal opinion I have to ask how putting reusable
code into a framework is (way) too heavy?

In the beginning was assembler, and all was right. But there was no
structure and it took forever to write code, so higher level languages were
designed with functions and dimensioned variables. Of course there were
those who scoffed at the overhead, and how slow it ran, but in general it
was accepted as a good thing and was taught in schools and used by many
programmers. But there were still many problems that remained and concepts
such as objects, and classes and inheritance were designed. Of course there
were those who scoffed at the overhead, and how slow it ran, but in general
it was accepted as a good thing, and was taught in school and used by many
programmers.

Re-use, encapsulation, and all that stuff is (now) widely accepted practice.
Whether or not you personally like these practices is only relevant to you
(and the cost to your client of course).

Have you ever heard of Steve Gibson of Spin Right fame? He does all his
programming in assembler! Hmm... ok. For his purposes that is apparently
just right, but it doesn't mean I want to do that.

A framework is nothing more or less that reusability / encapsulation taken
to the next level. It isn't like I invented the concept - ever heard of
.NET? Can you say FRAMEWORK?.

When you "attack" using a framework you are simply demonstrating a
preference for a way of doing things that may be better for your purposes
but definitely is NOT better for my purposes, nor I suspect, for many other
people.

>how's that sledgehammer John

Just fine thanks.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:54 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data ?


Hihi here we go again. Everybody uses a different approach and they all
work!
Some are more complex then others and in some cases (way) too heavy, how's
that sledgehammer John ;-) but they all help!

thnx a lot.

Now all i have to do is do a LOT of documenting and then it's of to find
myself a weddingsuit!

regards,

sander

"Brock, Christian T, HRC-Alexandria"
wrote:
The copy record and paste append commands will get every form field and
subform. Do not see how what you say to do provides any benefit over using
the three DoCmd.RunCommand statements.

Christian Brock



-----Original Message-----
From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, 01 April 2004 10:49
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?


...that "wizard" simply bites ...I'd create a "duplicate" button that saves
the pk of the current record to a variable or tag and then a query using the
saved pk to append a "new" record that is a duplicate of the saved one
except for the pk ...that would get you a dupe of every form field including
any subform.

William Hindman
ipsedixitism: something is true because I myself have said it is true ...the
philosophy of Noam Chomsky :)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brock, Christian T, HRC-Alexandria"

To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"

Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:22 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?


> Why go to the trouble? From the statement of intent, What the user really
> wants is a duplicate current record button, instead of a new record
button.
> The Access XP command button wizard will allow you to create a button that
> will duplicate the current record.
>
> It creates the following lines of code
> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 8, , acMenuVer70
> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 2, , acMenuVer70
> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 5, , acMenuVer70 'Paste Append
>
> Obviously MS did not update the wizard to use readable code. The
following
> will work as well.
> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSelectRecord
> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCopy
> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdPasteAppend
>
>
> Christian Brock
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
> Sent: Thursday, 01 April 2004 09:36
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data?
>
>
> Hi Tina
>
> > I begin to understand. At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event
> > Procedure will set the DefaultValue of each TextBox to the values
> > determined to already be stored in the record just saved. Is that
> > correct?
>
> Yes and no. No saving needs to take place:
>
> At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event Procedure will set the
> DefaultValue of each TextBox (or ComboBox etc.) to the values for the
> current record of those controls.
>
> > Does this require explicitly listing each TextBox of the form?
>
> Yes.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> >>>How does one set the DefautlValue at OnCurrent? I don't know how to do
> >>>that.
> >>
> >>That's not difficult - something like this:
> >>
> >> Dim txt As TextBox
> >> Set txt = Me!txtYourTextBox
> >>
> >> txt.DefaultValue = txt.Value
> >>
> >> Set txt = Nothing
> >>
> >>However, DefaultValue should be a string which means that if your
> >>textbox contains decimals or a date/time value you must be careful and
> >>convert to a string in US format:
> >>
> >> txt.DefaultValue = LTrim(Str(txt.Value))
> >>
> >>or
> >>
> >> txt.DefaultValue = _
> >> Format(txt.Value, "\#mm\/dd\/yyyy hh\:nn\:ss AM/PM\#")
> >>
> >>/gustav
> >>
> >>>>Tough day? No coffee?
> >>>>
> >>>>Set the DefaultValue at OnCurrent.
> >>>>
> >>>>As for Stuart's note on the KeyPreview, it's not a user feature, but a
> >>>>property of the form.
> >>>>
> >>>>/gustav
> >>>>
> >>>>>when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data
of
> the current record to be displayed in the new record.
> >>>>>So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA and
> then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear with
> the field username filled with AAA.
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Apr  2 16:57:14 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 08:57:14 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG
In-Reply-To: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227A6B@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <406E7C6A.9761.F97A3@localhost>

On 2 Apr 2004 at 9:45, DWUTKA at marlow.com wrote:

> Because Format() returns a string, 

To be strictly correct, Format() returns a variant of type String.
Format$() returns a string.

Most of the string manipulation functions have two varieties , with 
and without a trailing "$".  Leaving the "$" off returns a variant 
with the additional overhead and potential problems of using that 
data type.  It's a good idea use the specific version wherever 
possible.







 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Apr  2 17:03:28 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 09:03:28 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Vertical Lines in a Report
In-Reply-To: <406D7764.000003.72847@jedel>
Message-ID: <406E7DE0.9331.15506B@localhost>

On 2 Apr 2004 at 23:53, Dean Ellis wrote:

> Everyone,
>  
> Thanks for your replies to this post.
>  
> Dazza,  The code you gave me works and I did a similar thing to start with,
> the problem i'm having is the height of the line isn't changing with the
> Growth of the Memo boxes that are between the two horizontal lines. and
> because of this, I get a big gap between the bottom line and the bottom of
> the vertical line.
>  
> The othe rtwo sets of code that were posted worked as well, but they only
> gave me the hieght of the line, but it was always the full height of the
> detail section of the report. I want to specify the top position to join the
> ned of a horizontal line and make the bottom end of the vertical line
> postion relative to the size of the text boxes set at "Can Grow" so that the
> vertical lines will alway join top and bottom.
>  

The bottom horizontal line will be moved by the memo box above it 
growing, so just set the height of the verticle line to the distance 
between the horizontal lines.

lneLeftVertical.Height = lneBottomHorizontal.Top - 
lneTopHorizontal.Top


 
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Apr  2 17:07:42 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 17:07:42 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227A6E@main2.marlow.com>

Good point.

Drew

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Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 4:57 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG


On 2 Apr 2004 at 9:45, DWUTKA at marlow.com wrote:

> Because Format() returns a string, 

To be strictly correct, Format() returns a variant of type String.
Format$() returns a string.

Most of the string manipulation functions have two varieties , with 
and without a trailing "$".  Leaving the "$" off returns a variant 
with the additional overhead and potential problems of using that 
data type.  It's a good idea use the specific version wherever 
possible.







 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Apr  2 19:40:51 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 17:40:51 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Portugal
In-Reply-To: <3812436152.20040402122255@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLICEGLCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Gustav:

Try again in August....?

Jim

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Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 2:23 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Portugal


Hi all

I'll be visiting Portugal next week.

Would any listers be present in the Lisboa area to meet for a glass of
port?

/gustav

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From kathryn at bassett.net  Sat Apr  3 00:39:59 2004
From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 22:39:59 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] "See ya" in a few days
In-Reply-To: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIAEFLCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <200404030640.i336e2jk051635@mxsf20.cluster1.charter.net>

 Nope, I was fully backed up, data-wise. The problem is the amount of time
it takes to re-load all the programs I have to load and set the various
configurations the way I had them. I've updated to Office 2003, and opened a
few of my .mdb's with no problem, so guess that works ok. I'm getting used
to the new Outlook, but was looking forward to it. Having a problem with
synchronizing BeyondContacts though - it tells me "Synchronization was
skipped because the profile you selected to synchronize with in HotSync
Custom is different from the one that Outlook is opened to.  Please select
the profile you wish to synchronize with in Hotsync Custom and either close
Outlook, or open it in the profile you have selected." Will probably have to
wait til Monday to call them and find out how to fix this.

Got my genealogy program running. Bought a cordless keyboard - love that!
(Remember, I use my laptop like a desktop - external everything). Since my
new laptop (Sony PCG-GRT300Z http://shop1.outpost.com/product/3939768) has
an 80gig hd, I bought a new external that size too, so I can do full
backups. That's what saved my but when the other one crashed. I use a
program called SecondCopy and run that every night when I'm finished for the
eve (and play FreeCell while it's backing up).

Haven't got Dreamweaver up yet, so behind on my webmastering. That's next.

Tomorrow, I'm taking a break. We are going with some other local Hams on a
"road trip" to see the poppy fields
(http://www.calparksmojave.com/poppy/index.html).

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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jim Lawrence (AccessD)
> Sent: 01 Apr 2004 7:49 am
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] "See ya" in a few days
> 
> Hi Kathryn:
> 
> Hope you have not lost anything important, that you can not 
> recover from somewhere.
> 
> Good luck
> Jim



From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Apr  3 04:40:34 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 12:40:34 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG
In-Reply-To: <406E7C6A.9761.F97A3@localhost>
References: <406E7C6A.9761.F97A3@localhost>
Message-ID: <423777461.20040403124034@cactus.dk>

Hi Stuart

I never understood the difference. Contrary to what you tell, I've
learned as well, and the on-line help (A97) tells, both return VarType
vbString (8). 
How could one ever tell a difference between 8 and 8?

This could be a subject for Susan:

  Why always use ..$() when possible, when nearly no one does ...

/gustav


> To be strictly correct, Format() returns a variant of type String.
> Format$() returns a string.

> Most of the string manipulation functions have two varieties , with 
> and without a trailing "$".  Leaving the "$" off returns a variant 
> with the additional overhead and potential problems of using that 
> data type.  It's a good idea use the specific version wherever 
> possible.



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Apr  3 05:38:40 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 06:38:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG
In-Reply-To: <423777461.20040403124034@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPKEEIHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Gustav,

The differences center around the fact that the result is returned as a
variant if you don't use the $.  The obvious differences are:

1) Specified datatypes are faster.  Variants supposedly carry a penalty
since they have to be "interpreted" to figure out what they are.
2) A Variant can be coerced without warning into another datatype.  This may
be exactly what you want and then it's ok.

For example if the string holds a date, and you try to return the $ function
into a variable dimensioned as date, it will complain and you will know that
is happening.  If you return the function without the $ it will just be
coerced into a date and you will never know.

Again, you may indeed be aware that the string is a date and WANT it
coerced, but if your intention is to keep it in string format and
inadvertently dim the destination as a date instead of a string, then one
function will immediately make you aware of your error.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 5:41 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG


Hi Stuart

I never understood the difference. Contrary to what you tell, I've
learned as well, and the on-line help (A97) tells, both return VarType
vbString (8).
How could one ever tell a difference between 8 and 8?

This could be a subject for Susan:

  Why always use ..$() when possible, when nearly no one does ...

/gustav


> To be strictly correct, Format() returns a variant of type String.
> Format$() returns a string.

> Most of the string manipulation functions have two varieties , with
> and without a trailing "$".  Leaving the "$" off returns a variant
> with the additional overhead and potential problems of using that
> data type.  It's a good idea use the specific version wherever
> possible.

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Apr  3 06:59:21 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 22:59:21 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG
In-Reply-To: <423777461.20040403124034@cactus.dk>
References: <406E7C6A.9761.F97A3@localhost>
Message-ID: <406F41C9.8160.31290B7@localhost>

On 3 Apr 2004 at 12:40, Gustav Brock wrote:

> Hi Stuart
> 
> I never understood the difference. Contrary to what you tell, I've
> learned as well, and the on-line help (A97) tells, both return VarType
> vbString (8). 
> How could one ever tell a difference between 8 and 8?
> 
> This could be a subject for Susan:
> 
>   Why always use ..$() when possible, when nearly no one does ...
> 
1. Because it's more efficient. 
    a.  it uses less storage for the variable
    b.   it avoids the overhead of interpreting the type every time
         it is referenced

2. It prevents accidental type conversion when you don't intend it. 
Variant "coercion" can introduce subtle bugs into your code which are 
difficult to isolate.






 
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Apr  3 07:53:34 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 15:53:34 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG
In-Reply-To: <423777461.20040403124034@cactus.dk>
References: <406E7C6A.9761.F97A3@localhost>
	<423777461.20040403124034@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <17115358223.20040403155334@cactus.dk>

Hi John and Stuart

Yes, I know about type declarations and variables - I only use Variant
when Null is an acceptable "value". 

But that was not my question ...

  Dim strVar As String

Now, 1. or 2.:

  1. strVar = Str(1234)
  2. strVar = Str$(1234)

Both Str() and Str$() cannot return anything but a string - the only
difference I can find is that Str$() returns a string while Str()
should return a variant with the undertype String.

But why would I care? Isn't a string a string?
Speed could be a concern. But testing with a loop with 2 mio.
iterations doesn't show any difference between Str() and Str$().

So do we see ghosts here? Why would I go on typing unneeded $ signs?

/gustav


> I never understood the difference. Contrary to what you tell, I've
> learned as well, and the on-line help (A97) tells, both return VarType
> vbString (8). 
> How could one ever tell a difference between 8 and 8?

> This could be a subject for Susan:

>   Why always use ..$() when possible, when nearly no one does ...

> /gustav


>> To be strictly correct, Format() returns a variant of type String.
>> Format$() returns a string.

>> Most of the string manipulation functions have two varieties , with 
>> and without a trailing "$".  Leaving the "$" off returns a variant 
>> with the additional overhead and potential problems of using that 
>> data type.  It's a good idea use the specific version wherever 
>> possible.



From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Sat Apr  3 11:50:24 2004
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 11:50:24 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] AllowEdits on Subform
Message-ID: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D504@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>

How do you prevent/allow Edits on a subform? 

I have a command button that is used to Edit a record. The form does not
allow edits without using the Edit Record button. The problem is that the
subform still allows edits without using the Edit Record button.

Virginia


From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Sat Apr  3 13:53:29 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 20:53:29 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] AllowEdits on Subform
In-Reply-To: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D504@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <007d01c419b5$5614b870$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

A subform has its own AllowEdits property Virginia. You can control it with
the following code:

Me!subControl.Form.AllowEdits = True/False

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> Subject: [AccessD] AllowEdits on Subform
> 
> 
> How do you prevent/allow Edits on a subform? 
> 
> I have a command button that is used to Edit a record. The 
> form does not allow edits without using the Edit Record 
> button. The problem is that the subform still allows edits 
> without using the Edit Record button.
> 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Apr  4 15:02:40 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2004 16:02:40 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: good book
Message-ID: <20040404200300.ZMYZ1763.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

http://www.codertodeveloper.com/
 
====No personal affiliation -- just a good reference. 
 
Susan H. 


From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Sun Apr  4 18:07:33 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 09:07:33 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K Increase Year by 1
Message-ID: <00c801c41a99$9ce617a0$48619a89@DDICK>

Hello all
Brain fade here
It's Monday morning and everything is just as you would expect a Monday to be <sigh>
I have a dB that holds dates of Occurrences
I have a  need to increase the 'year' portion only of that date by 1
eg 31/01/2001 now needs to become 31/01/2002
There are hundreds of 'em though so doing it manually isn't an option.
I just need a quick query to update 'em all. I actually have done this is the past 
(on the same dB actually) but can't recall how I did it <sigh>

Many thanks in advance

Darren



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Apr  4 18:19:24 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2004 19:19:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K Increase Year by 1
In-Reply-To: <00c801c41a99$9ce617a0$48619a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <MAEGKIDGFPDDHGNCGPGAIEPHCBAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

DateAdd

JWC

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Subject: [AccessD] A2K Increase Year by 1


Hello all
Brain fade here
It's Monday morning and everything is just as you would expect a Monday to
be <sigh>
I have a dB that holds dates of Occurrences
I have a  need to increase the 'year' portion only of that date by 1
eg 31/01/2001 now needs to become 31/01/2002
There are hundreds of 'em though so doing it manually isn't an option.
I just need a quick query to update 'em all. I actually have done this is
the past
(on the same dB actually) but can't recall how I did it <sigh>

Many thanks in advance

Darren

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From demulling at centurytel.net  Sun Apr  4 18:24:41 2004
From: demulling at centurytel.net (Demulling Family)
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2004 18:24:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K Increase Year by 1
In-Reply-To: <00c801c41a99$9ce617a0$48619a89@DDICK>
References: <00c801c41a99$9ce617a0$48619a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <40709939.5060402@centurytel.net>

Darren DICK wrote:

>Hello all
>Brain fade here
>It's Monday morning and everything is just as you would expect a Monday to be <sigh>
>I have a dB that holds dates of Occurrences
>I have a  need to increase the 'year' portion only of that date by 1
>eg 31/01/2001 now needs to become 31/01/2002
>There are hundreds of 'em though so doing it manually isn't an option.
>I just need a quick query to update 'em all. I actually have done this is the past 
>(on the same dB actually) but can't recall how I did it <sigh>
>
>Many thanks in advance
>
>Darren
>
>  
>
DateAdd("yyyy",1,<<your date>>)



From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Sun Apr  4 19:05:07 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 10:05:07 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K Increase Year by 1
References: <MAEGKIDGFPDDHGNCGPGAIEPHCBAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <019301c41aa1$a7b80b90$48619a89@DDICK>

Excellent
Thanks John


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Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 9:19 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K Increase Year by 1


> DateAdd
> 
> JWC
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren DICK
> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 7:08 PM
> To: AccessD List
> Subject: [AccessD] A2K Increase Year by 1
> 
> 
> Hello all
> Brain fade here
> It's Monday morning and everything is just as you would expect a Monday to
> be <sigh>
> I have a dB that holds dates of Occurrences
> I have a  need to increase the 'year' portion only of that date by 1
> eg 31/01/2001 now needs to become 31/01/2002
> There are hundreds of 'em though so doing it manually isn't an option.
> I just need a quick query to update 'em all. I actually have done this is
> the past
> (on the same dB actually) but can't recall how I did it <sigh>
> 
> Many thanks in advance
> 
> Darren
> 
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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Sun Apr  4 19:08:18 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 10:08:18 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
Message-ID: <019901c41aa2$199277f0$48619a89@DDICK>

   Hello all

 I have a simple subform with 4 fields on it
ID (PK),  txtDateOfOccurence, cboClientName, cboOffence

How can I tell if the user goes to a new record and they have not completed ALL fields in the previous record
How do I alert them and then direct them back to the previous record?

many thanks

Darren






From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Sun Apr  4 19:25:35 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2004 20:25:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
In-Reply-To: <019901c41aa2$199277f0$48619a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <40706F3F.16231.9E7B12@localhost>

On 5 Apr 2004 at 10:08, Darren DICK wrote:

>  I have a simple subform with 4 fields on it
> ID (PK),  txtDateOfOccurence, cboClientName, cboOffence
> 
> How can I tell if the user goes to a new record and they have not
> completed ALL fields in the previous record How do I alert them and
> then direct them back to the previous record?

Use the before update event of the form. Check to make sure they 
entered a vale and if not set Cancel = true in the event. That should 
prevent the record from being saved and keep the sub form on the 
"unfinished" record

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
The trouble with doing something right the first time is that nobody 
appreciates how difficult it is.




From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Sun Apr  4 19:37:36 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 10:37:36 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K Increase Year by 1
References: <00c801c41a99$9ce617a0$48619a89@DDICK>
	<40709939.5060402@centurytel.net>
Message-ID: <01b401c41aa6$31734df0$48619a89@DDICK>

That was it 
Thanks Demulling Family



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Demulling Family" <demulling at centurytel.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K Increase Year by 1


> Darren DICK wrote:
> 
> >Hello all
> >Brain fade here
> >It's Monday morning and everything is just as you would expect a Monday to be <sigh>
> >I have a dB that holds dates of Occurrences
> >I have a  need to increase the 'year' portion only of that date by 1
> >eg 31/01/2001 now needs to become 31/01/2002
> >There are hundreds of 'em though so doing it manually isn't an option.
> >I just need a quick query to update 'em all. I actually have done this is the past 
> >(on the same dB actually) but can't recall how I did it <sigh>
> >
> >Many thanks in advance
> >
> >Darren
> >
> >  
> >
> DateAdd("yyyy",1,<<your date>>)
> 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Apr  4 20:30:37 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2004 21:30:37 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Framework Discussion - Moving to a library
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPGEEMHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Framework ? Moving to a Library
For the purposes of this lecture, the framework is approaching a useable
state.  We now have:
?	A framework class that initializes the framework service classes.
?	SysVars that can be used to modify program flow and turn on / off
behaviors or modify how behaviors work.
?	A form class that has a functioning control scanner finding specific
control types and loading class instances for these controls.
?	Control classes that are loaded by the form?s control scanner.
?	A troubleshooting class that logs (or can log) all classes loading and
unloading to assist troubleshooting unloading problems.
?	Service classes such as Zip which can be loaded as the application
requires.

>From this point forward, the lectures will concentrate on how to add
functionality to the framework, adding in more service classes, more control
classes, and adding behaviors to the form and control classes as we run
across useful things that we want available to all of our applications.

However a framework is not very useful if it has to be inside the
Application FE.  What we need to do next is create the typical FE/BE system
and reference the framework as a library in an MDA / MDB.  This presents a
few challenges, but it also allows us to easily ?exchange? the library for a
new version without damaging the application?s data.

The process of moving our demo framework to a FE/BE is reasonably easy.  All
we do is:
?	Create an FE and export the forms / queries / reports to that, leaving all
the classes here in the original container.
?	Create a BE and export the tables to that.
?	Link the FE to the tables in the BE
?	Change the name of the framework to an MDA extension
?	Reference the framework library from the FE.
?	Delete the forms / queries / reports / tables from the framework library.
?	Expose dclsFrm

The library is Referenced by selecting from the menu while in any module,
Tools / References, click Browse and navigate to the directory where the
copy of the library is stored, then selecting it.

Having done these things we are ready to use the framework as a referenced
lib.

There is a small downside to working this way, namely the requirement to
relink the tables as you get the demos.  I have moved the entire directory
from my normal development drive to the c: drive, c:\ C2DbFW3G so that if
you place it there the table links will always work when you get the latest
version.
Using a class factory
One process required when moving to a library is to make the classes that
you need to reference from inside the FE can be found by your code.  There
are at least two ways to do this.  The simplest is to build a wrapper class
inside the library that looks something like this:

Public function cFrm() as dclsFrm
	Set cfrm = new dclsFrm
End function

This is a class factory that gets a new instance of that class and returns a
pointer to it.  This method works well and like most things has pluses and
minuses to it.  The plus is that you don?t have to expose the class itself
which we shall see in a minute is a little more work.  The minus is that
there is no intellisense available, and when we are dealing with classes,
that is a pretty big minus.
Exposing a class directly
Another way to do this is to expose the class directly using an undocumented
feature in Access.  In order to do this we need to export the class module
to a text file, edit the text file, delete the original class module in the
library, and import the modified class text file back into the library.
Export the class
To export a class to a text file we need to:
?	Go to the database window.
?	Click the modules tab
?	Click on a class module to select it
?	Click File / Export
?	A File Find dialog box will open.  Navigate to the directory for this
project.
?	Create a Classes directory if none exists already, then navigate to that
directory
?	Select save as type: Text files in the bottom combo of the File Find
dialog
?	Add a .txt to the file name
?	Click the Save button.

Next we need to edit the text file in Wordpad.
?	Using Windows Explorer, navigate to the file we just created.  If you
followed the instructions above it should be in a class subdirectory under
the project directory for this framework.
?	Open the file just exported

The top of the file should look similar to:

VERSION 1.0 CLASS
BEGIN
  MultiUse = -1  'True
END
Attribute VB_Name = "clsFramework"
Attribute VB_GlobalNameSpace = False
Attribute VB_Creatable = False
Attribute VB_PredeclaredId = True
Attribute VB_Exposed = False
Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

?	We can then remove the VERSION line and the BEGIN/END section plus the two
Option lines so that all that remains (of that section) is:

Attribute VB_Name = "clsFramework"
Attribute VB_GlobalNameSpace = False
Attribute VB_Creatable = False
Attribute VB_PredeclaredId = True
Attribute VB_Exposed = False

?	Next we need to edit this section, specifically we need to change
VB_Creatable to True, and VB_Exposed to True

Attribute VB_Name = "clsFramework"
Attribute VB_GlobalNameSpace = False
Attribute VB_Creatable = True
Attribute VB_PredeclaredId = True
Attribute VB_Exposed = True

?	Save the file and exit Wordpad.  At this point the class is edited and
ready to import back into the library.
?	In the library, delete the class that we are working on.
?	Now from the menu Click Insert / Class module, then Insert / File.  Use
the file find dialog to navigate to the directory where the class txt file
is located and select that file.  The contents will load into the empty
class module we just created.
?	On the menu click Debug/Compile just to check that everything is working
properly.  If not fix the compile errors.  There should be no errors but if
you failed to edit the header of the class in the text file you could get
some stuff up there (like duplicate Option statements).
?	Once it compiles, on the menu click File / Save.  It will ask if you want
to save the class and will offer you a name.  Just click yes.

You have finished the process of making a class ?visible? from outside of
the library.

Standard Disclaimer: This is an ?undocumented? procedure which means that
Microsoft may at any moment pull some stunt that makes this not work.
However this method works from Access97 up through AccessXP and probably
A2003 (I haven?t personally tested that last).
Using a library
Using a library is more complex than having all of your code inside the FE,
however the pluses far outweigh the minuses.  Some issues in no particular
order:
?	When you are running code in the library ?from? a FE, you can edit the
code in the library but those edits are not permanent.  The library is ?read
only? and you are just making changes to the code loaded in memory (more or
less).
?	A result of the above is that in order to make changes permanent you must
work in a completely different copy than the one referenced by the project.
In other words, even if you were to open the library from another instance
of Access, any attempt to make edits will cause Access to inform you that
the changes will not be saved.
?	In fact, if I remember correctly, this is not true for A97, it could
indeed make changes to the lib from another instance of Access and make them
stick, but from A2K onwards you cannot do that.  Thus you need to always
have a ?referenced? library and a ?working? library in different
directories.  The ?referenced? library is of course referenced by the
application and in use when the App is open.  The ?working? library is the
copy that you modify with changes that you wish to become permanent.

?	Libraries can be shared, i.e. multiple users can reference the lib.
However it is more often the case that (in a multi-user environment) we will
download both the FE and the BE to a local directory on the user?s hard
drive.

This brings up another issue, if the reference is ?broken?, i.e. the library
cannot be found in the location that the reference says it should be, then
Access will automatically search a ?path? in an attempt to find the file.  I
can?t find information about the exact file path at the moment but I know
that Access will search the Windows directory, System32 and the current
application directory, I believe in that order.  This means that you can
drop your framework in any of those locations and even if the application
has the reference to some other place, the lib will be found and the broken
reference will be fixed automatically.

If the referenced library is not found, then a ?broken reference? will be
visible in the Reference wizard and you will need to fix it manually.

?	You also have to initialize the framework before initializing anything
else so that the framework is up and running by the time the application and
its forms try and use it.  In addition the framework has to be unloaded when
the application closes.  It is possible for objects loaded by the framework
to prevent Access closing so we have to have a failsafe method of unloading
every time.

I do this by loading a form usysfrmFWCleanup in the framework?s Init()
function and calls the framework?s Term() function from its Close event.
This form resides in the framework library.  Since Access cannot close
without closing all forms, regardless of how it occurs the application
closing will close this form which cleans up the framework.  Because closing
this form unloads the framework, I also call Application.Quit
acQuitSaveNone.  Users are not supposed to be closing this form (or even
seeing it).  If the form is closed for any reason, the application will not
function correctly so I just close the Application.  Ordinarily this form
closes because the application is already closing, but if it is closed
accidentally, the application will be closed as well.

These are some of the issues that must be considered when using a library.
However the alternative of placing all such code directly in the FE causes
immense maintenance issues if you have more than one project.  A library is
used precisely because a fix to a single library and a redistribution of
that library will fix a bug or problem for every project that uses that lib.
Likewise adding a behavior to a lib will provide that behavior automatically
to every project that uses the library.
Sysvars
Using SysVars in a framework / Library is probably not familiar to most
developers so I will take a few moments to discuss how we implement
framework overrides.  As we have seen in past lectures, the SysVars are used
to turn on/off or otherwise modify behaviors that the framework makes
available to the developer / application.  In order to really be useful
however we have to be able to change the default behaviors from inside of
the application.

The way we do this is to copy the framework SysVar table into the FE.  We
will leave a copy of those SysVars that we want this specific application to
be able to override.  Now, by setting the SysVars to whatever state we
desire for this Application and merging in the SysVar table in the
application, we can perform the Override.  I have done this in the demo for
this lecture.

I have also added two more SysVar systems to the Framework, one for the
Application control (code) and the other for the Application Data.  These
two SysVars are so common that I just include them right in the framework so
that all the developer has to do is run the Init method and start using
them.  The Application?s control SysVar table is usually embedded in the FE
so that the SysVars controlling the Application travel with the FE
container.  The Application?s data SysVar table is generally placed in the
BE so that things like Company information etc. do not get corrupted when a
new Framework or FE is distributed.

The additional code for consist of two additional variables in the framework
class? header:

Private mclsSVAppCont As clsSysVars
Private mclsSVAppData As clsSysVars


Then in the framework?s Initialize we SET these variables:

    Set mclsSVAppCont = New clsSysVars
    Set mclsSVAppData = New clsSysVars

We add a new set of functions to initialize the framework instance, return a
pointer to the class instance and return a SysVar from each Instance.

One set for the Application Control:

'
'Initialize the SysVars for the Application Control
'
Public Function SVAPPContInit(strTblName As String)
    mclsSVAppCont.Init Nothing, gcnn, strTblName
End Function
'
'Get a pointer to the Application Control SV class instance
'
Public Function cSVAppCont() As clsSysVars
    Set cSVAppCont = mclsSVAppCont
End Function
'
'Return SysVars from the Application Control SysVar class
'
Public Function SVAppCont(strSVName As String) As Variant
    SVAppCont = mclsSVAppCont.SV(strSVName)
End Function

And one set for the Application Data:

'
'Initialize the SysVars for the Application Data
'
Public Function SVAPPDataInit(strTblName As String)
    mclsSVAppData.Init Nothing, gcnn, strTblName
End Function
'
'Get a pointer to the Application Data SV class instance
'
Public Function cSVAppData() As clsSysVars
    Set cSVAppData = mclsSVAppData
End Function
'
'Return SysVars from the Application Data SysVar class
'
Public Function SVAppData(strSVName As String) As Variant
    SVAppData = mclsSVAppData.SV(strSVName)
End Function

I have exposed the SysVars class so that you can easily instantiate your own
SysVars if you need more than the Application Control and Application Data
SysVars provided by the framework.

In order to demonstrate using these two SysVar sets, I have created a label
in the switchboard that displays a version number in the format YYYY.MM.DD.
The visible property of this label is set to false.  In the FE I created the
table usystblAppCont where I set a DisplayVersion SysVar = True.  In the
application?s init() I called the SVAPPDataInit method of the framework:

Function AppInit()
    If Not blnAppInitialized Then
        'initialize the framework
        fwinit
        blnAppInitialized = True
        fw.SVAPPContInit "usystblAppCont"
        fw.SVAPPDataInit "usystblAppData"
	End If
End Function

This has the effect of loading all the SysVars in usystblAppCont (there?s
only one at the moment).  Then in the switchboard?s Open event I set
lblVersion.Visible to the value in the SysVar table.

Private Sub Form_Open(Cancel As Integer)
' Minimize the database window and initialize the form.

    AppInit
    ' Move to the switchboard page that is marked as the default.
    Me.Filter = "[ItemNumber] = 0 AND [Argument] = 'Default' "
    Me.FilterOn = True
    lblVersion.Visible = fw.SVAppCont("DisplayVersion")
    txtDeveloper = fw.SVAppData("Developer") & vbCrLf &
fw.SVAppData("DevEmail")
End Sub

Since I have the DisplayVersion set to True in the table, the label will be
visible.  This demonstrates the usage of SysVars to control Application
behaviors.

Likewise I added a table to the BE called usystblAppData and linked that
into the FE.  In that table I added two SysVars, Developer and DevEMail.  I
then created a txtDeveloper text box on the switchboard that displays this
information. Notice that this one pulls its data from fw.SVAppData.  Now as
the switchboard opens it pulls these developer SysVars out of the BE.

Perhaps Developer data wasn?t the best thing to use for Application data but
I didn?t particularly want to put my TaxID in there.  As you can see the end
user of the system can load their data into this table and have it displayed
in the switchboard, report footers etc.

SysVars can be used for many purposes, but the Framework control,
Application control and Application data are so common that I just include
these three SysVar tables right in the framework for immediate use.
Modifications
The modifications required when we move to an FE consist of building an
AppInit() and calling it from somewhere.

Private blnAppInitialized As Boolean
Function AppInit()
    If Not blnAppInitialized Then
        'initialize the framework
        fwinit
        blnAppInitialized = True
    End If
End Function

Notice that we set a Boolean so that if the function is called multiple
times it will only execute once.  You can then place any code that you need
to initialize in this function as well.  To run this code the options are an
Autoexec macro or a splash screen or switchboard.  To keep things simple I
just built a very simple switchboard and then call this function from the
Open of that switchboard.

Private Sub Form_Open(Cancel As Integer)
    AppInit
End Sub

We then open usysFrmFWCleanup from the FWInit()

'
'The init function for the framework
'
Public Function FWInit()
    If mblnFWInitialized = False Then '

        mblnFWInitialized = True
        DoCmd.OpenForm "usysFrmFWCleanup", , , , , acHidden
        Set mfwcnn = CodeProject.Connection
        Set mcnn = CurrentProject.Connection
        Randomize
        Set mclsInstanceStack = New clsInstanceStack
        mclsInstanceStack.Init Nothing
        Set mclsFramework = New clsFramework
        mclsFramework.Init Nothing
    End If
End Function

I built a simple form called usysFrmFWCleanup with code in that form?s Close
event which cleans up and forces the app closed if that form is closed.

Private Sub Form_Close()
    FWTerm
    On Error Resume Next
    Application.Quit acQuitSaveNone
End Sub

Opening the switchboard calls APPInit() which calls FWInit() which
initializes the framework and loads usysFrmFWCleanup.  Closing the app in
any manner forces usysFrmFWCleanup to close.  usysFrmFWCleanup closing calls
FWTerm() cleaning up the framework and forcing Access to close if it wasn?t
already..
Summary
In order to be useful the framework has to be split off into a library.
Doing this causes a handful of issues that you have to be aware of.  We may
need to expose classes using the method shown above ? I have already exposed
dclsFrm so that the forms would work correctly.  It also requires setting up
init and cleanup code so that the framework is shutdown reliably as the app
closes.

Additionally we need to add a new pair of SysVar instances for the developer
to use for control of the Application and data for the Application.

>From this point forward, the lectures will focus on adding functionality to
the framework, generally to the form class or control class or both in order
to implement some behavior that the developer has found useful, has found or
developed code for, and now wishes to make available to all his projects by
moving that behavior to the framework.

In order to use the library we need to take the steps to break out the FE /
BE and library modules into separate containers.  I have outlined the
process in the top of this document and have actually performed this process
and provided a set of three mdb containers ? the FE/BE and Library.

I do not intend to leave the demo broken into the three pieces however; I
only did so to demonstrate the process and what goes where.  For the
purposes of writing a demo and allowing me and the readers following this
lecture series to easily work with the demos it is much more helpful in a
single file.  I don?t want to lose any readers because they can?t deal yet
with the nitty gritty of actually doing development in three parts, getting
references working, getting table links fixed etc.  Therefore this document
and associated files actually consist of the three MDBs but the next
document will have them merged back into a single file.  The framework is
ready however, and can be split out again at a moment?s notice.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com




From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Sun Apr  4 20:28:42 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 11:28:42 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
References: <40706F3F.16231.9E7B12@localhost>
Message-ID: <01c501c41aad$5502fca0$48619a89@DDICK>

Hi Bryan
I did that no joy eg.

Private Sub Form_BeforeUpdate(Cancel As Integer)

If IsNull(Me.cmbOffence) Or Me.cmbOffence = "" Then
    MsgBox "Enter an offence"
    Cancel = True
End If

End Sub

What I need to do is somehow test if the user is on a new fresh record or has left th previous record with unfilled combos. Of
course I can do it on the lost and got focus event.Thats fine whilst I am in the record
EG record 5 has no offence recorded
User goes to record 6 How do i alert the user that record 5 has a missing value then go back to that record?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at sympatico.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problemsolving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record


> On 5 Apr 2004 at 10:08, Darren DICK wrote:
>
> >  I have a simple subform with 4 fields on it
> > ID (PK),  txtDateOfOccurence, cboClientName, cboOffence
> >
> > How can I tell if the user goes to a new record and they have not
> > completed ALL fields in the previous record How do I alert them and
> > then direct them back to the previous record?
>
> Use the before update event of the form. Check to make sure they
> entered a vale and if not set Cancel = true in the event. That should
> prevent the record from being saved and keep the sub form on the
> "unfinished" record
>
> -- 
> Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
> The trouble with doing something right the first time is that nobody
> appreciates how difficult it is.
>
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Apr  4 20:31:46 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2004 21:31:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Framework Discussion - Moving to a library
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPKEEMHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

As always, the demo is up on my site and can be downloaded from there with
the email in .DOC format.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com




From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Sun Apr  4 21:26:50 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 12:26:50 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
Message-ID: <01eb01c41ab5$744b2120$48619a89@DDICK>

Hello all
In relation to stopping a person moving to another record before the previous one is complete...
I put some validation rules on the table. Now it's working fine.....almost

Does anyone know the err number Access throws up when table level validation is not met?
If anyone does know, how do I trap it at form level and throw up my own message box?

Many thanks

Darren



From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Mon Apr  5 02:43:21 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 00:43:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG
In-Reply-To: <4425303804.20040402155722@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20040405074321.14087.qmail@web61106.mail.yahoo.com>

The bug was that users used diff regional settings (dutch and US) and with short dates that resulted in problems 6-1-2003 is in Holland 6 january, in US its june first....
 
I set the format property for all date fields to dd-mmm-yyyy
 
Sander


Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
Hi Sander

Well - but what is the bug and how did you solve it?

/gustav


> Hi gustav,

> I've solved the problem. Twas a nasty one.
> but euh try it if you want. create a table with a date field like below and run the query...no go!

> Thanx anyway.

> Sander


> Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi Sander

> Your "stupid" test is correct as it sorts DESC on a string.

> Try this which I think is what Bert-Jan has in mind:

> SELECT DISTINCT
> Format([TblArbo].[Datum], "dd-mmm-yyyy")
> FROM
> TblArbo
> ORDER BY
> [TblArbo].[Datum] DESC;

> /gustav


>> I've got a combobox based on a query:
>> SELECT DISTINCT [TblArbo].[Datum]
>> FROM TblArbo
>> ORDER BY [TblArbo].[Datum] DESC;
>> Resulted in:
>> 01-10-2003
>> 02-09-2003
>> 21-08-2001

>> The user asked if this could be printed in the following format: dd-mmm-yyyy
>> No problem, says stupid me:
>> SELECT DISTINCT Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy")
>> FROM TblArbo
>> ORDER BY Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy") DESC;

>> But now the ORDER BY ONLY checks the DD part?!?!?!?!
>> So this results in:
>> 21-08-2001

>> 02-09-2003
>> 01-10-2003
>> ?!!??! What kind of nonsense is this?

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From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Mon Apr  5 06:25:23 2004
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2004 06:25:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] AllowEdits on Subform
Message-ID: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D505@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>

Another one - what about Undo? I used
Forms!frm_Vendor.frm_ContactsSub.Form.Undo but it does not undo the entry on
the subform.

Also, where you have Me!subControl - that is not the name of the form is it?
Is it each control on the form? This is a tabbed form I placed the subform
on one of the tabs.

Virginia


-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk]
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 1:53 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] AllowEdits on Subform


A subform has its own AllowEdits property Virginia. You can control it with
the following code:

Me!subControl.Form.AllowEdits = True/False

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Hollis,Virginia
> Sent: 03 April 2004 18:50
> To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
> Subject: [AccessD] AllowEdits on Subform
> 
> 
> How do you prevent/allow Edits on a subform? 
> 
> I have a command button that is used to Edit a record. The 
> form does not allow edits without using the Edit Record 
> button. The problem is that the subform still allows edits 
> without using the Edit Record button.
> 
> Virginia
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Mon Apr  5 10:00:39 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 11:00:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP - Can't create MDE.
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30806650@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB3D8@ADGSERVER>

Hey all,

I have an app that has been compiling to an MDE fine for several months now.
All of a sudden, it will not create an MDE.

The app will compile, but when I go to create an MDE (it is in XP format),
it asks where I want the output file to go, then sometimes I'll see the
progress bar flash to 100%, then it does one of two things.  It will either
sit there forever (I have left it for 2 hours before) while still using
80-90% CPU utilization, or it will crash Access XP.  Usually it just appears
to lock up.  Note that a normal compile takes maybe 1 minute.

I am pretty sure that I have not installed any new software or anything.

My coworker is able to pull form VSS and compile the app with no problems.

I am running on Windows 2000 Pro, .5G Ram, 700Mhz P-III.

Anyone have any ideas as to what may going wrong?

Thanks,
Bobby



From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Mon Apr  5 10:16:15 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 11:16:15 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP - Can't create MDE.
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30807079@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB3DA@ADGSERVER>

Further info:

I just tried again and it crashed this time.  Here is the Error signature
for the information that would be sent to MS.

AppName: msaccess.exe	 AppVer: 10.0.4302.0	 ModName: mso.dll
ModVer: 10.0.4219.0	 Offset: 00009777

Thanks,
Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP - Can't create MDE.


Hey all,

I have an app that has been compiling to an MDE fine for several months now.
All of a sudden, it will not create an MDE.

The app will compile, but when I go to create an MDE (it is in XP format),
it asks where I want the output file to go, then sometimes I'll see the
progress bar flash to 100%, then it does one of two things.  It will either
sit there forever (I have left it for 2 hours before) while still using
80-90% CPU utilization, or it will crash Access XP.  Usually it just appears
to lock up.  Note that a normal compile takes maybe 1 minute.

I am pretty sure that I have not installed any new software or anything.

My coworker is able to pull form VSS and compile the app with no problems.

I am running on Windows 2000 Pro, .5G Ram, 700Mhz P-III.

Anyone have any ideas as to what may going wrong?

Thanks,
Bobby

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From serbach at new.rr.com  Mon Apr  5 10:33:19 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 10:33:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file
Message-ID: <20040405103319.1451643778.serbach@new.rr.com>

Dear Group,

I have an Access 2000 FE/BE application loaded on a client's system in another city 90 miles away. I've been working with their network guy over the phone and he's sent me screen shots of error messages along the way. Here's the situation.

The "master" MDB FE database is loaded on the server. I have the local people there create an MDE and place it in another folder so that's it's available for the users who download it to their workstations when a new version is ready. While working with my client's network guy, Bob, the MDE file SEEMS to be created all right; but once the compacting is finished and the FE starts up, the first form opens and he gets this message (it's an "i" message):

The expression On Load you entered as the event property setting produced the following error: Error accessing file. Network connection may have been lost.

  * The expression may not result in the name of a macro, the name of a user-defined function, or [Event Procedure].
  * There may have been an error evaluating the function, event, or macro.

When he clicks OK the startup form (which is supposed to be hidden) is there on the screen and the application has halted.

INVESTIGATION:

1) They don't have the Documentor installed so I can't see what the path is to the BE.

2) However, I do have a form (that I cobbed from Steve Nyberg) that shows all the links with their paths. When we attempt to open this form we get the message you see above. Click OK on the message and Nyberg's SeeLinks form opens but with nothing showing up regarding linked tables.

3) I can open the linked tables from the "master" front end. But when I open the table that contains the latest version number (part of the version upgrade system) I see something odd. This Versions table has one row. The table has a Default value of the Now() function in the VersionDate column. On my system when I look at the table I see the first row all right and in the 2nd (empty) row I see (AutoNumber) in the key field and today's date and time in the VersionDate column. On my client's system he sees #Name? in the VersionDate column in an empty row. He cannot add information in a new row because Access doesn't like the default value. So I had Bob remove the default value. I still get the main problem.

4) The users can still run the application from their workstations using the old version of the FE. There hasn't been any problem there.

5) The Startup form of the FE calls Carl Tribble's Auto-Linker to check the link status of the first table before the main switchboard menu appears. This is all working properly on the users' workstations.

6) I tried Compact and Repair on both the BE and the FE. No change in basic error.

7) I checked the references. They're all there.

8) Only thing I haven't done (at least that I know how to do) is a /decompile on the "master" FE on the server.

I'm sorry about the length of this message. I somehow doubt that I would find the problem even if I were sitting at the workstation. Bob is very capable, so I'm sure he's relaying to me everything that he sees.

At least my clients can still work with the older version of the app. I am just stumped why this error message appears in the "master" front end database. Any thoughts, other than "Well, why the heck do you let the user make an MDE in the first place, ya numbskull?!"

Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Apr  5 10:59:28 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 08:59:28 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP - Can't create MDE.
References: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB3DA@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <007601c41b26$fa334df0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Bobby:

I would try making the mde on a different machine to see if the problem is
related to the mdb or to the installation of access on the machine where
it's currently failing.

I would also try the broad spectrum anti-biotic approach - decompile the
mdb.  Then compact, compile, and see if it will make the mde.

HTH

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bobby Heid" <bheid at appdevgrp.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 8:16 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access XP - Can't create MDE.


> Further info:
>
> I just tried again and it crashed this time.  Here is the Error signature
> for the information that would be sent to MS.
>
> AppName: msaccess.exe AppVer: 10.0.4302.0 ModName: mso.dll
> ModVer: 10.0.4219.0 Offset: 00009777
>
> Thanks,
> Bobby
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:01 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Access XP - Can't create MDE.
>
>
> Hey all,
>
> I have an app that has been compiling to an MDE fine for several months
now.
> All of a sudden, it will not create an MDE.
>
> The app will compile, but when I go to create an MDE (it is in XP format),
> it asks where I want the output file to go, then sometimes I'll see the
> progress bar flash to 100%, then it does one of two things.  It will
either
> sit there forever (I have left it for 2 hours before) while still using
> 80-90% CPU utilization, or it will crash Access XP.  Usually it just
appears
> to lock up.  Note that a normal compile takes maybe 1 minute.
>
> I am pretty sure that I have not installed any new software or anything.
>
> My coworker is able to pull form VSS and compile the app with no problems.
>
> I am running on Windows 2000 Pro, .5G Ram, 700Mhz P-III.
>
> Anyone have any ideas as to what may going wrong?
>
> Thanks,
> Bobby
>
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From tuannj1810 at yahoo.com  Mon Apr  5 11:13:45 2004
From: tuannj1810 at yahoo.com (tuan nguyen)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 09:13:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] MULTI ENTRY to database
Message-ID: <20040405161345.12567.qmail@web60104.mail.yahoo.com>

I am creating a customer database.  the idea is that more than 2 
people can come in the file and update the record.  however, whenever 
there are more than 2 people on the file, there is a message something 
like "you dont have exclusive access to the file, yr work might not be 
saved"...(i set "shared" in tools/ options/advanced/ ) some times, other can not log on if i am on the file.  then i have to get out before other can get in.  
is there anyway to solve this?

if i want each person input there initial when the log on the file 
and want to have the file tells me who update the file last, is it 
possilbe.  can it tell the time it was updated?   
 
generally, does access work well with multi entry -  many people working on same file, doing updates...?

tks for help.

tuan nguyen

maersk inc, 
madison, nj




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From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Mon Apr  5 11:32:28 2004
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2004 11:32:28 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Duplicate Posts
Message-ID: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D51E@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>

I am receiving duplicate posts today...

Virginia


From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Mon Apr  5 11:51:25 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 17:51:25 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] AllowEdits on Subform
In-Reply-To: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D505@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <000001c41b2e$3b940b20$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Hi Virginia
subControl refers to the name on the main form that you've given to the
subform control (think Access defaults to Childnnn, but you'd want to change
that to something meaningful). The tab doesn't affect it.

Not so sure you can do Undo in the same way. The problem (I think, but open
to correction) is that, having put data onto a subform, if you click away
from the subform to the main form (i.e. to your Undo button on the main
form) Access carries out a Save of the subform data. And once the save has
occurred you can't Undo. Undo is only available BeforeUpdate. What I'd
suggest is that you place the Undo button in the header of the subform
rather than on the main form. It can then just do a Me.Undo and should work
ok as focus won't have moved off the sub.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Hollis,Virginia
> Sent: 05 April 2004 12:25
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] AllowEdits on Subform
> 
> 
> Another one - what about Undo? I used 
> Forms!frm_Vendor.frm_ContactsSub.Form.Undo but it does not 
> undo the entry on the subform.
> 
> Also, where you have Me!subControl - that is not the name of 
> the form is it? Is it each control on the form? This is a 
> tabbed form I placed the subform on one of the tabs.
> 
> Virginia
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk]
> Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 1:53 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] AllowEdits on Subform
> 
> 
> A subform has its own AllowEdits property Virginia. You can 
> control it with the following code:
> 
> Me!subControl.Form.AllowEdits = True/False
> 
> -- Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> > Hollis,Virginia
> > Sent: 03 April 2004 18:50
> > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
> > Subject: [AccessD] AllowEdits on Subform
> > 
> > 
> > How do you prevent/allow Edits on a subform?
> > 
> > I have a command button that is used to Edit a record. The
> > form does not allow edits without using the Edit Record 
> > button. The problem is that the subform still allows edits 
> > without using the Edit Record button.
> > 
> > Virginia
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Mon Apr  5 12:15:58 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 18:15:58 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
In-Reply-To: <01eb01c41ab5$744b2120$48619a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <000201c41b31$a9e1c6f0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Hiya Darren, how're ya doing?

Use the form's OnError event for this. If you first of all stick in there a:

MsgBox DataErr

That'll give you the error number. You can then test for that and do
whatever your heart desires.

See you when we emigrate :-)

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren DICK
> Sent: 05 April 2004 03:27
> To: AccessD List
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
> 
> 
> Hello all
> In relation to stopping a person moving to another record 
> before the previous one is complete... I put some validation 
> rules on the table. Now it's working fine.....almost
> 
> Does anyone know the err number Access throws up when table 
> level validation is not met? If anyone does know, how do I 
> trap it at form level and throw up my own message box?
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Darren
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Mon Apr  5 13:06:11 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 14:06:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP - Can't create MDE. SOLVED
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30807087@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB3DE@ADGSERVER>

Hi all,

A lister named Ryan e-mailed me off-line with a suggestion that was almost
correct.  He suggested that I change a module, save, restart, change it
back, save, compact & repair, then create the MDE.

Unfortunately, that did not do the trick.  So I went looking in the MS KB
and found KB article 
814858 - ACC: Access May Stop Responding When You Try to Create an MDE File
or an ADE File
http://tinyurl.com/2ryvk
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;814858&Product=acc20
02

Basically, it says that the compiled VBA project of the MDB was corrupt.  It
then says to use the /DECOMPILE switch to decompile the project.  I did
this, then compiled, then compacted & repaired.  Voila!  I can now create an
MDE.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:16 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access XP - Can't create MDE.


Further info:

I just tried again and it crashed this time.  Here is the Error signature
for the information that would be sent to MS.

AppName: msaccess.exe	 AppVer: 10.0.4302.0	 ModName: mso.dll
ModVer: 10.0.4219.0	 Offset: 00009777

Thanks,
Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP - Can't create MDE.


Hey all,

I have an app that has been compiling to an MDE fine for several months now.
All of a sudden, it will not create an MDE.

The app will compile, but when I go to create an MDE (it is in XP format),
it asks where I want the output file to go, then sometimes I'll see the
progress bar flash to 100%, then it does one of two things.  It will either
sit there forever (I have left it for 2 hours before) while still using
80-90% CPU utilization, or it will crash Access XP.  Usually it just appears
to lock up.  Note that a normal compile takes maybe 1 minute.

I am pretty sure that I have not installed any new software or anything.

My coworker is able to pull form VSS and compile the app with no problems.

I am running on Windows 2000 Pro, .5G Ram, 700Mhz P-III.

Anyone have any ideas as to what may going wrong?

Thanks,
Bobby

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From pjones at btl.net  Mon Apr  5 10:55:20 2004
From: pjones at btl.net (Paul M. Jones)
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2004 09:55:20 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] AllowEdits on Subform
In-Reply-To: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D504@cntexchange.pgdp.
	usec.com>
References: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D504@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20040405095444.02fbc418@btlmail.btl.net>

I usually lock the entire subform to ensure that no editing can be done 
until I allow it.

At 11:50 AM 4/3/2004, you wrote:
>How do you prevent/allow Edits on a subform?
>
>I have a command button that is used to Edit a record. The form does not
>allow edits without using the Edit Record button. The problem is that the
>subform still allows edits without using the Edit Record button.
>
>Virginia
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Mon Apr  5 10:19:40 2004
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 11:19:40 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
Message-ID: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF407AD80D9@xlivmbx12.aig.com>

"no joy" - what did not work? It's totally routine to do this kind of thing
in the BeforeUpdate event (but what you might have missed is that you also
need to do it in the BeforeInsert event too - that way you can validate NEW
records as well as existing ones that get edited.)

No need to mess with table validation rules and trapping the error. Just do
your own validation in the above two events.

BTW here's a way to check for nulls and empty string in one step, and it's a
tad easier to read (IMHO).

Instead of ...

If IsNull(Me.cmbOffence) Or Me.cmbOffence = "" Then

use...

If cmbOffence & "" = "" Then


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Darren DICK [SMTP:d.dick at uws.edu.au]
> Sent:	Sunday, April 04, 2004 9:29 PM
> To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject:	Re: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
> 
> Hi Bryan
> I did that no joy eg.
> 
> Private Sub Form_BeforeUpdate(Cancel As Integer)
> 
> If IsNull(Me.cmbOffence) Or Me.cmbOffence = "" Then
>     MsgBox "Enter an offence"
>     Cancel = True
> End If
> 
> End Sub
> 
> What I need to do is somehow test if the user is on a new fresh record or
> has left th previous record with unfilled combos. Of
> course I can do it on the lost and got focus event.Thats fine whilst I am
> in the record
> EG record 5 has no offence recorded
> User goes to record 6 How do i alert the user that record 5 has a missing
> value then go back to that record?
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at sympatico.ca>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problemsolving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 10:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
> 
> 
> > On 5 Apr 2004 at 10:08, Darren DICK wrote:
> >
> > >  I have a simple subform with 4 fields on it
> > > ID (PK),  txtDateOfOccurence, cboClientName, cboOffence
> > >
> > > How can I tell if the user goes to a new record and they have not
> > > completed ALL fields in the previous record How do I alert them and
> > > then direct them back to the previous record?
> >
> > Use the before update event of the form. Check to make sure they
> > entered a vale and if not set Cancel = true in the event. That should
> > prevent the record from being saved and keep the sub form on the
> > "unfinished" record
> >
> > -- 
> > Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
> > The trouble with doing something right the first time is that nobody
> > appreciates how difficult it is.
> >
> >
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Apr  5 15:08:37 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 16:08:37 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
In-Reply-To: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF407AD80D9@xlivmbx12.aig.com>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPGEFDHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Lambert,

>If cmbOffence & "" = "" Then

This is the kind of thing that you should add an explanation of why it works
in your email.  Less experienced developers might not understand what is
going on.  Further the explanation of why it works would add to their
understanding of empty strings and nulls.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:20 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: 'd.dick at uws.edu.au'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record


"no joy" - what did not work? It's totally routine to do this kind of thing
in the BeforeUpdate event (but what you might have missed is that you also
need to do it in the BeforeInsert event too - that way you can validate NEW
records as well as existing ones that get edited.)

No need to mess with table validation rules and trapping the error. Just do
your own validation in the above two events.

BTW here's a way to check for nulls and empty string in one step, and it's a
tad easier to read (IMHO).

Instead of ...

If IsNull(Me.cmbOffence) Or Me.cmbOffence = "" Then

use...

If cmbOffence & "" = "" Then


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Darren DICK [SMTP:d.dick at uws.edu.au]
> Sent:	Sunday, April 04, 2004 9:29 PM
> To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject:	Re: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
>
> Hi Bryan
> I did that no joy eg.
>
> Private Sub Form_BeforeUpdate(Cancel As Integer)
>
> If IsNull(Me.cmbOffence) Or Me.cmbOffence = "" Then
>     MsgBox "Enter an offence"
>     Cancel = True
> End If
>
> End Sub
>
> What I need to do is somehow test if the user is on a new fresh record or
> has left th previous record with unfilled combos. Of
> course I can do it on the lost and got focus event.Thats fine whilst I am
> in the record
> EG record 5 has no offence recorded
> User goes to record 6 How do i alert the user that record 5 has a missing
> value then go back to that record?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at sympatico.ca>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problemsolving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 10:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
>
>
> > On 5 Apr 2004 at 10:08, Darren DICK wrote:
> >
> > >  I have a simple subform with 4 fields on it
> > > ID (PK),  txtDateOfOccurence, cboClientName, cboOffence
> > >
> > > How can I tell if the user goes to a new record and they have not
> > > completed ALL fields in the previous record How do I alert them and
> > > then direct them back to the previous record?
> >
> > Use the before update event of the form. Check to make sure they
> > entered a vale and if not set Cancel = true in the event. That should
> > prevent the record from being saved and keep the sub form on the
> > "unfinished" record
> >
> > --
> > Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
> > The trouble with doing something right the first time is that nobody
> > appreciates how difficult it is.
> >
> >
> > --
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From joconnell at indy.rr.com  Mon Apr  5 15:12:52 2004
From: joconnell at indy.rr.com (Joseph O'Connell)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 15:12:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] MULTI ENTRY to database
Message-ID: <00f501c41b4a$6b8318a0$6701a8c0@joe>

>From the database window go to Tools|Options.  Click on the Advanced tab.
Change the "Default open mode" from Exclusive to Shared.  Then click the
Apply button.

Joe O'Connell

-----Original Message-----
From: tuan nguyen <tuannj1810 at yahoo.com>
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Date: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:52 AM
Subject: [AccessD] MULTI ENTRY to database


|I am creating a customer database.  the idea is that more than 2
|people can come in the file and update the record.  however, whenever
|there are more than 2 people on the file, there is a message something
|like "you dont have exclusive access to the file, yr work might not be
|saved"...(i set "shared" in tools/ options/advanced/ ) some times, other
can not log on if i am on the file.  then i have to get out before other can
get in.
|is there anyway to solve this?
|
|if i want each person input there initial when the log on the file
|and want to have the file tells me who update the file last, is it
|possilbe.  can it tell the time it was updated?
|
|generally, does access work well with multi entry -  many people working on
same file, doing updates...?
|
|tks for help.
|
|tuan nguyen
|
|maersk inc,
|madison, nj
|
|
|
|
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Mon Apr  5 15:15:21 2004
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 16:15:21 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
Message-ID: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF407AD812F@xlivmbx12.aig.com>

Ok.

The '&' operator is one of the few operator which, when applied to a null
does *not* result in a null. When you append a string to null using '&' you
wind up with a string.

The test... 

If cmbOffence & "" = "" Then 

	...therefore is equivalent to saying "if this thing is null or it
it's an empty string then do something"

In fact, this is functionally equivalent...

If cboMyComboBox & "HasNothingSelected" = "HasNothingSelected" Then

HTH

Lambert


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	John W. Colby [SMTP:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
> Sent:	Monday, April 05, 2004 4:09 PM
> To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject:	RE: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
> 
> Lambert,
> 
> >If cmbOffence & "" = "" Then
> 
> This is the kind of thing that you should add an explanation of why it
> works
> in your email.  Less experienced developers might not understand what is
> going on.  Further the explanation of why it works would add to their
> understanding of empty strings and nulls.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Heenan,
> Lambert
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:20 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Cc: 'd.dick at uws.edu.au'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
> 
> 
> "no joy" - what did not work? It's totally routine to do this kind of
> thing
> in the BeforeUpdate event (but what you might have missed is that you also
> need to do it in the BeforeInsert event too - that way you can validate
> NEW
> records as well as existing ones that get edited.)
> 
> No need to mess with table validation rules and trapping the error. Just
> do
> your own validation in the above two events.
> 
> BTW here's a way to check for nulls and empty string in one step, and it's
> a
> tad easier to read (IMHO).
> 
> Instead of ...
> 
> If IsNull(Me.cmbOffence) Or Me.cmbOffence = "" Then
> 
> use...
> 
> If cmbOffence & "" = "" Then
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	Darren DICK [SMTP:d.dick at uws.edu.au]
> > Sent:	Sunday, April 04, 2004 9:29 PM
> > To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject:	Re: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
> >
> > Hi Bryan
> > I did that no joy eg.
> >
> > Private Sub Form_BeforeUpdate(Cancel As Integer)
> >
> > If IsNull(Me.cmbOffence) Or Me.cmbOffence = "" Then
> >     MsgBox "Enter an offence"
> >     Cancel = True
> > End If
> >
> > End Sub
> >
> > What I need to do is somehow test if the user is on a new fresh record
> or
> > has left th previous record with unfilled combos. Of
> > course I can do it on the lost and got focus event.Thats fine whilst I
> am
> > in the record
> > EG record 5 has no offence recorded
> > User goes to record 6 How do i alert the user that record 5 has a
> missing
> > value then go back to that record?
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at sympatico.ca>
> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problemsolving"
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 10:25 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
> >
> >
> > > On 5 Apr 2004 at 10:08, Darren DICK wrote:
> > >
> > > >  I have a simple subform with 4 fields on it
> > > > ID (PK),  txtDateOfOccurence, cboClientName, cboOffence
> > > >
> > > > How can I tell if the user goes to a new record and they have not
> > > > completed ALL fields in the previous record How do I alert them and
> > > > then direct them back to the previous record?
> > >
> > > Use the before update event of the form. Check to make sure they
> > > entered a vale and if not set Cancel = true in the event. That should
> > > prevent the record from being saved and keep the sub form on the
> > > "unfinished" record
> > >
> > > --
> > > Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
> > > The trouble with doing something right the first time is that nobody
> > > appreciates how difficult it is.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > AccessD mailing list
> > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Apr  5 15:48:30 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2004 13:48:30 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file
References: <20040405103319.1451643778.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <4071C61E.9060802@shaw.ca>

Have a look at this, maybe a service pack issue. remember Office 2000 
SP3 plays around with Outlook security.

ACC2000: Error Message: Error Accessing File. Network Connection May 
Have Been Lost.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304548&Product=acc

Steven W. Erbach wrote:

>Dear Group,
>
>I have an Access 2000 FE/BE application loaded on a client's system in another city 90 miles away. I've been working with their network guy over the phone and he's sent me screen shots of error messages along the way. Here's the situation.
>
>The "master" MDB FE database is loaded on the server. I have the local people there create an MDE and place it in another folder so that's it's available for the users who download it to their workstations when a new version is ready. While working with my client's network guy, Bob, the MDE file SEEMS to be created all right; but once the compacting is finished and the FE starts up, the first form opens and he gets this message (it's an "i" message):
>
>The expression On Load you entered as the event property setting produced the following error: Error accessing file. Network connection may have been lost.
>
>  * The expression may not result in the name of a macro, the name of a user-defined function, or [Event Procedure].
>  * There may have been an error evaluating the function, event, or macro.
>
>When he clicks OK the startup form (which is supposed to be hidden) is there on the screen and the application has halted.
>
>INVESTIGATION:
>
>1) They don't have the Documentor installed so I can't see what the path is to the BE.
>
>2) However, I do have a form (that I cobbed from Steve Nyberg) that shows all the links with their paths. When we attempt to open this form we get the message you see above. Click OK on the message and Nyberg's SeeLinks form opens but with nothing showing up regarding linked tables.
>
>3) I can open the linked tables from the "master" front end. But when I open the table that contains the latest version number (part of the version upgrade system) I see something odd. This Versions table has one row. The table has a Default value of the Now() function in the VersionDate column. On my system when I look at the table I see the first row all right and in the 2nd (empty) row I see (AutoNumber) in the key field and today's date and time in the VersionDate column. On my client's system he sees #Name? in the VersionDate column in an empty row. He cannot add information in a new row because Access doesn't like the default value. So I had Bob remove the default value. I still get the main problem.
>
>4) The users can still run the application from their workstations using the old version of the FE. There hasn't been any problem there.
>
>5) The Startup form of the FE calls Carl Tribble's Auto-Linker to check the link status of the first table before the main switchboard menu appears. This is all working properly on the users' workstations.
>
>6) I tried Compact and Repair on both the BE and the FE. No change in basic error.
>
>7) I checked the references. They're all there.
>
>8) Only thing I haven't done (at least that I know how to do) is a /decompile on the "master" FE on the server.
>
>I'm sorry about the length of this message. I somehow doubt that I would find the problem even if I were sitting at the workstation. Bob is very capable, so I'm sure he's relaying to me everything that he sees.
>
>At least my clients can still work with the older version of the app. I am just stumped why this error message appears in the "master" front end database. Any thoughts, other than "Well, why the heck do you let the user make an MDE in the first place, ya numbskull?!"
>
>Regards,
> 
>Steve Erbach
>Scientific Marketing
>Neenah, WI
>920-969-0504
> 
>"Congress is as trustworthy with money as a crack addict who is experimenting with heroin." - Dave Barry
> 
>"Giving money and power to the government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys." - P. J. O'Rourke
> 
>"Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for." - Will Rogers
> 
>"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly American criminal class except Congress." - Mark Twain
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Apr  5 16:42:56 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 14:42:56 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file
References: <20040405103319.1451643778.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <00ee01c41b56$f529a0e0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Steven:

This looks familiar.  Google the phrase "Network connection may have been
lost".  Sorry can't do more right now.

HTH

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven W. Erbach" <serbach at new.rr.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 8:33 AM
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file


> Dear Group,
>
> I have an Access 2000 FE/BE application loaded on a client's system in
another city 90 miles away. I've been working with their network guy over
the phone and he's sent me screen shots of error messages along the way.
Here's the situation.
>
> The "master" MDB FE database is loaded on the server. I have the local
people there create an MDE and place it in another folder so that's it's
available for the users who download it to their workstations when a new
version is ready. While working with my client's network guy, Bob, the MDE
file SEEMS to be created all right; but once the compacting is finished and
the FE starts up, the first form opens and he gets this message (it's an "i"
message):
>
> The expression On Load you entered as the event property setting produced
the following error: Error accessing file. Network connection may have been
lost.
>
>   * The expression may not result in the name of a macro, the name of a
user-defined function, or [Event Procedure].
>   * There may have been an error evaluating the function, event, or macro.
>
> When he clicks OK the startup form (which is supposed to be hidden) is
there on the screen and the application has halted.
>
> INVESTIGATION:
>
> 1) They don't have the Documentor installed so I can't see what the path
is to the BE.
>
> 2) However, I do have a form (that I cobbed from Steve Nyberg) that shows
all the links with their paths. When we attempt to open this form we get the
message you see above. Click OK on the message and Nyberg's SeeLinks form
opens but with nothing showing up regarding linked tables.
>
> 3) I can open the linked tables from the "master" front end. But when I
open the table that contains the latest version number (part of the version
upgrade system) I see something odd. This Versions table has one row. The
table has a Default value of the Now() function in the VersionDate column.
On my system when I look at the table I see the first row all right and in
the 2nd (empty) row I see (AutoNumber) in the key field and today's date and
time in the VersionDate column. On my client's system he sees #Name? in the
VersionDate column in an empty row. He cannot add information in a new row
because Access doesn't like the default value. So I had Bob remove the
default value. I still get the main problem.
>
> 4) The users can still run the application from their workstations using
the old version of the FE. There hasn't been any problem there.
>
> 5) The Startup form of the FE calls Carl Tribble's Auto-Linker to check
the link status of the first table before the main switchboard menu appears.
This is all working properly on the users' workstations.
>
> 6) I tried Compact and Repair on both the BE and the FE. No change in
basic error.
>
> 7) I checked the references. They're all there.
>
> 8) Only thing I haven't done (at least that I know how to do) is a
/decompile on the "master" FE on the server.
>
> I'm sorry about the length of this message. I somehow doubt that I would
find the problem even if I were sitting at the workstation. Bob is very
capable, so I'm sure he's relaying to me everything that he sees.
>
> At least my clients can still work with the older version of the app. I am
just stumped why this error message appears in the "master" front end
database. Any thoughts, other than "Well, why the heck do you let the user
make an MDE in the first place, ya numbskull?!"
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve Erbach
> Scientific Marketing
> Neenah, WI
> 920-969-0504
>
> "Congress is as trustworthy with money as a crack addict who is
experimenting with heroin." - Dave Barry
>
> "Giving money and power to the government is like giving whiskey and car
keys to teenage boys." - P. J. O'Rourke
>
> "Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for." -
Will Rogers
>
> "It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no
distinctly American criminal class except Congress." - Mark Twain
>
> -- 
> _______________________________________________
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Apr  5 16:51:00 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 07:51:00 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
In-Reply-To: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF407AD80D9@xlivmbx12.aig.com>
Message-ID: <40726164.28379.E4E0C@localhost>

On 5 Apr 2004 at 11:19, Heenan, Lambert wrote:

> > BTW here's a way to check for nulls and empty string in one step, and it's a
> tad easier to read (IMHO).
> 
> Instead of ...
> 
> If IsNull(Me.cmbOffence) Or Me.cmbOffence = "" Then
> 
> use...
> 
> If cmbOffence & "" = "" Then
> 

Or:

If NZ(cmbOffence,"") = "" Then

or even just NZ(cmbOffence) since "" is the default for NZ(string)



 
-- 
Lexacorp Ltd
http://www.lexacorp.com.pg
Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System 
Support.





From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Apr  5 16:57:10 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 14:57:10 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312709@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Take a look at
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q304548

This is a typical error when you do not have O2k SR-3 and you have a
2002 or later app installed on the same machine.  The VBE6.DLL for 2002
breaks the 2000 Access executable.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Steven W. Erbach [mailto:serbach at new.rr.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 7:33 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file


Dear Group,

I have an Access 2000 FE/BE application loaded on a client's system in
another city 90 miles away. I've been working with their network guy
over the phone and he's sent me screen shots of error messages along the
way. Here's the situation.

The "master" MDB FE database is loaded on the server. I have the local
people there create an MDE and place it in another folder so that's it's
available for the users who download it to their workstations when a new
version is ready. While working with my client's network guy, Bob, the
MDE file SEEMS to be created all right; but once the compacting is
finished and the FE starts up, the first form opens and he gets this
message (it's an "i" message):

The expression On Load you entered as the event property setting
produced the following error: Error accessing file. Network connection
may have been lost.

  * The expression may not result in the name of a macro, the name of a
user-defined function, or [Event Procedure].
  * There may have been an error evaluating the function, event, or
macro.

When he clicks OK the startup form (which is supposed to be hidden) is
there on the screen and the application has halted.

INVESTIGATION:

1) They don't have the Documentor installed so I can't see what the path
is to the BE.

2) However, I do have a form (that I cobbed from Steve Nyberg) that
shows all the links with their paths. When we attempt to open this form
we get the message you see above. Click OK on the message and Nyberg's
SeeLinks form opens but with nothing showing up regarding linked tables.

3) I can open the linked tables from the "master" front end. But when I
open the table that contains the latest version number (part of the
version upgrade system) I see something odd. This Versions table has one
row. The table has a Default value of the Now() function in the
VersionDate column. On my system when I look at the table I see the
first row all right and in the 2nd (empty) row I see (AutoNumber) in the
key field and today's date and time in the VersionDate column. On my
client's system he sees #Name? in the VersionDate column in an empty
row. He cannot add information in a new row because Access doesn't like
the default value. So I had Bob remove the default value. I still get
the main problem.

4) The users can still run the application from their workstations using
the old version of the FE. There hasn't been any problem there.

5) The Startup form of the FE calls Carl Tribble's Auto-Linker to check
the link status of the first table before the main switchboard menu
appears. This is all working properly on the users' workstations.

6) I tried Compact and Repair on both the BE and the FE. No change in
basic error.

7) I checked the references. They're all there.

8) Only thing I haven't done (at least that I know how to do) is a
/decompile on the "master" FE on the server.

I'm sorry about the length of this message. I somehow doubt that I would
find the problem even if I were sitting at the workstation. Bob is very
capable, so I'm sure he's relaying to me everything that he sees.

At least my clients can still work with the older version of the app. I
am just stumped why this error message appears in the "master" front end
database. Any thoughts, other than "Well, why the heck do you let the
user make an MDE in the first place, ya numbskull?!"

Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504
 
"Congress is as trustworthy with money as a crack addict who is
experimenting with heroin." - Dave Barry
 
"Giving money and power to the government is like giving whiskey and car
keys to teenage boys." - P. J. O'Rourke
 
"Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for." -
Will Rogers
 
"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no
distinctly American criminal class except Congress." - Mark Twain

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From my.lists at verizon.net  Mon Apr  5 16:59:45 2004
From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia)
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2004 14:59:45 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Duplicate Posts
In-Reply-To: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D51E@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>
References: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D51E@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>
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Hollis,Virginia said the following on 4/5/2004 9:32 AM:

>I am receiving duplicate posts today...
>
>Virginia
>  
>
did anyone else reply to this?.. Is this a rule in your outlook possibly 
causing this??

-- 
-Francisco




From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Apr  5 17:35:14 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 17:35:14 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file
In-Reply-To: <7685353.1081201441608.JavaMail.root@sniper2.marix.com>
Message-ID: <003f01c41b5e$458ed1c0$de1811d8@DanWaters>

Steve,

I don't have an answer to your specific problem, but since your client is
distant this might help:

Have your client download a trial version of GoToMyPC.  He can set up an
account for himself.  GoToMyPC has a feature called 'Guest Invite'.  He can
use this to let you see what's happening on his screen, and you can control
his PC from yours so you can do some troubleshooting.  

I guess this is similar to WebEx or PCAnywhere.  If he decides to keep the
GoToMyPC account, he only needs to pay $15/mo.  I use it to work with my
clients so they can see 'drafts' of what I'm doing without making a trip.

Best of Luck!
Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steven W. Erbach
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 10:33 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file

Dear Group,

I have an Access 2000 FE/BE application loaded on a client's system in
another city 90 miles away. I've been working with their network guy over
the phone and he's sent me screen shots of error messages along the way.
Here's the situation.

The "master" MDB FE database is loaded on the server. I have the local
people there create an MDE and place it in another folder so that's it's
available for the users who download it to their workstations when a new
version is ready. While working with my client's network guy, Bob, the MDE
file SEEMS to be created all right; but once the compacting is finished and
the FE starts up, the first form opens and he gets this message (it's an "i"
message):

The expression On Load you entered as the event property setting produced
the following error: Error accessing file. Network connection may have been
lost.

  * The expression may not result in the name of a macro, the name of a
user-defined function, or [Event Procedure].
  * There may have been an error evaluating the function, event, or macro.

When he clicks OK the startup form (which is supposed to be hidden) is there
on the screen and the application has halted.

INVESTIGATION:

1) They don't have the Documentor installed so I can't see what the path is
to the BE.

2) However, I do have a form (that I cobbed from Steve Nyberg) that shows
all the links with their paths. When we attempt to open this form we get the
message you see above. Click OK on the message and Nyberg's SeeLinks form
opens but with nothing showing up regarding linked tables.

3) I can open the linked tables from the "master" front end. But when I open
the table that contains the latest version number (part of the version
upgrade system) I see something odd. This Versions table has one row. The
table has a Default value of the Now() function in the VersionDate column.
On my system when I look at the table I see the first row all right and in
the 2nd (empty) row I see (AutoNumber) in the key field and today's date and
time in the VersionDate column. On my client's system he sees #Name? in the
VersionDate column in an empty row. He cannot add information in a new row
because Access doesn't like the default value. So I had Bob remove the
default value. I still get the main problem.

4) The users can still run the application from their workstations using the
old version of the FE. There hasn't been any problem there.

5) The Startup form of the FE calls Carl Tribble's Auto-Linker to check the
link status of the first table before the main switchboard menu appears.
This is all working properly on the users' workstations.

6) I tried Compact and Repair on both the BE and the FE. No change in basic
error.

7) I checked the references. They're all there.

8) Only thing I haven't done (at least that I know how to do) is a
/decompile on the "master" FE on the server.

I'm sorry about the length of this message. I somehow doubt that I would
find the problem even if I were sitting at the workstation. Bob is very
capable, so I'm sure he's relaying to me everything that he sees.

At least my clients can still work with the older version of the app. I am
just stumped why this error message appears in the "master" front end
database. Any thoughts, other than "Well, why the heck do you let the user
make an MDE in the first place, ya numbskull?!"

Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504
 
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experimenting with heroin." - Dave Barry
 
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From garykjos at hotmail.com  Mon Apr  5 17:43:56 2004
From: garykjos at hotmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2004 17:43:56 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] MULTI ENTRY to database
Message-ID: <BAY2-F539cnCOxHIMyS00032cd9@hotmail.com>

Hi Tuan,

It could be that your users do not have full file creation rights in the 
folder where the database is. The users need to have the rights to create a 
file so a LDB locking file can be created. With no licking file it allows 
ONE user but not a second.

Access works fine with multiple users lots and lots of apps around that do 
that. You will do well to investigate how to best make a database that works 
well for multiple users simultaneously though. Generally a split database 
with a front end and a back end will be the best way although there are 
exceptions and special circumstances when this may not be entirely correct 
either. A front end database contains everything in the database EXCEPT the 
data tables, and the back end contains ONLY the data tables. You create 
LINKS in the front end to point to the tables in teh back end.   If you 
search in help on Multi-user database you should find some info on this 
issue.

In order to log when people sign in to your database and keep track of what 
they update, you will need need to create some tables to store that info and 
some code to populate those tables that track that info. Nothing is 
available in Access by itself to track those changes, you have to do it 
yourself. You can certainly dd a field like "LAST_UPDATE" and then write a 
small bit of code in your form to update that field whenever there is a 
change to the record. Look at the Before Update event on a form and set the 
"LAST_UPDATE" field to NOW()

Gary Kjos
garykjos at hotmail.com





>From: tuan nguyen <tuannj1810 at yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] MULTI ENTRY to database
>Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 09:13:45 -0700 (PDT)
>
>I am creating a customer database.  the idea is that more than 2
>people can come in the file and update the record.  however, whenever
>there are more than 2 people on the file, there is a message something
>like "you dont have exclusive access to the file, yr work might not be
>saved"...(i set "shared" in tools/ options/advanced/ ) some times, other 
>can not log on if i am on the file.  then i have to get out before other 
>can get in.
>is there anyway to solve this?
>
>if i want each person input there initial when the log on the file
>and want to have the file tells me who update the file last, is it
>possilbe.  can it tell the time it was updated?
>
>generally, does access work well with multi entry -  many people working on 
>same file, doing updates...?
>
>tks for help.
>
>tuan nguyen
>
>maersk inc,
>madison, nj
>
>
>
>
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From jskolits at CorporateDataDesign.com  Mon Apr  5 21:43:57 2004
From: jskolits at CorporateDataDesign.com (John Skolits)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 22:43:57 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Duplicate Posts
In-Reply-To: <4071D6D1.1000206@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <000501c41b81$02591460$6701a8c0@OFFICEXP1>

I started getting them when I upgraded to Outlook XP. That's because you can
no longer disable emails accounts if you have multiple ones listed. They now
all have to be active. I hate it when they remove features!

John Skolits

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco H Tapia
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 6:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Duplicate Posts


Hollis,Virginia said the following on 4/5/2004 9:32 AM:

>I am receiving duplicate posts today...
>
>Virginia
>  
>
did anyone else reply to this?.. Is this a rule in your outlook possibly 
causing this??

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Mon Apr  5 22:18:28 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 20:18:28 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Code help please
Message-ID: <000001c41b85$d87c94a0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

This code is supposed to
1.       Confirm this is an existing record
2.       If the form is dirty 
 
Open a message box
 
I need vb yes. I want to go to the next record.
 
Can not find the right method
                        
 
Thanks  
 
Joe
 
 
 
Private Sub Form_Dirty(Cancel As Integer)
 
    if me.newrecord = false and
    If Me.Dirty Then
    Dim lngRetval As Long
 
    lngRetval = MsgBox( _
        "Data on this form has changed! " & vbCrLf & "" & vbCrLf & "Do
you wish to continue?", _
        vbYesNoCancel + vbQuestion + vbSystemModal + vbDefaultButton1, _
        "Data Has Changed")
 
    Select Case lngRetval
        Case vbYes
        
        Add New RECORD
            
        Case vbNo
         Forms!frmmasterAddresses!txtLastName.SetFocus
        
        
        
        Case vbCancel
        
           
            
    End Select
    
   End If
      
        
 
 
 
End Sub
 
 
 


From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Apr  5 23:28:31 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 14:28:31 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Code help please
References: <000001c41b85$d87c94a0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <016401c41b8f$9df9bec0$48619a89@DDICK>

Hi Joe
Try something like this
Under the 
Compare Database and option explicit declarations type
gIntFormIsDirty as integer
Then add

Private Sub Form_Load()
gIntFormIsDirty  = False
end sub

then add

Private Sub Form_Dirty(Cancel As Integer)
gIntFormIsDirty  = true
End Sub

then 

Private Sub ps_SomeCodeToRun()

'Joe get whatever the PK is and see if there is a value in it
    if not isnull(Me.MyPK) then 'There is  a value so we are on a live record
        if gIntFormIsDirty  = true THEN
            Msgbox "we are on a pre-existing record and the record is dirty"
        else
            Msgbox "we are on a pre-existing record but the record IS NOT  dirty"
        end if
    else
        msgbox "We are on a 'new rec' or at least one without a PK"
    end if

end sub

then in the afterupdate(or whatever) of the control to test

Private sub txtLastName_AfterUpdate()
ps_SomeCodeToRun
end sub

Hope this helps

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Hecht" <jmhla at earthlink.net>
To: "AccessD" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 1:18 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Code help please


> This code is supposed to
> 1.       Confirm this is an existing record
> 2.       If the form is dirty 
>  
> Open a message box
>  
> I need vb yes. I want to go to the next record.
>  
> Can not find the right method
>                         
>  
> Thanks  
>  
> Joe
>  
>  
>  
> Private Sub Form_Dirty(Cancel As Integer)
>  
>     if me.newrecord = false and
>     If Me.Dirty Then
>     Dim lngRetval As Long
>  
>     lngRetval = MsgBox( _
>         "Data on this form has changed! " & vbCrLf & "" & vbCrLf & "Do
> you wish to continue?", _
>         vbYesNoCancel + vbQuestion + vbSystemModal + vbDefaultButton1, _
>         "Data Has Changed")
>  
>     Select Case lngRetval
>         Case vbYes
>         
>         Add New RECORD
>             
>         Case vbNo
>          Forms!frmmasterAddresses!txtLastName.SetFocus
>         
>         
>         
>         Case vbCancel
>         
>            
>             
>     End Select
>     
>    End If
>       
>         
>  
>  
>  
> End Sub
>  
>  
>  
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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Apr  5 23:56:00 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 14:56:00 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Transfer Database
Message-ID: <018501c41b93$74e90ff0$48619a89@DDICK>

hello all
can anyone tell me why the acLink version of transfer database 
below works but the import version fails? Along with the error message 
"Cannot define Field more than once"
I have tried every combination I can think of in relation to the dbf file name location etc.
No joy and the help is useless

'This one works fine
DoCmd.TransferDatabase acLink, "dBase IV", "C:\", acTable, "C:\SIDS.dbf", "tblStudents", False
'This one fails
DoCmd.TransferDatabase acImport, "dBase IV", "C:\", acTable, "C:\SIDS.dbf", "tblStudents", False

many thanks

Drren



From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Tue Apr  6 03:42:01 2004
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Tue,  6 Apr 2004 10:42:01 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Transfer Database
Message-ID: <29010324.1081240921849.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001>

Darren,
try taking a look at the first ten characters of the DBase IV table fields you are trying to import (i.e. you may have something like StudentsID1 and StudentsID2 if you look at the first ten characters you will only have StudentsID) for some reason when trying to Export/Import DBase IV tables it only reads the first ten characters.  Make sure the first ten characters in your fields are different and then you should be ok.
Paul





Message date : Apr 06 2004, 06:01 AM
>From : "Darren DICK" 
To : "AccessD List" 
Copy to : 
Subject : [AccessD] A2K: Transfer Database
hello all
can anyone tell me why the acLink version of transfer database 
below works but the import version fails? Along with the error message 
"Cannot define Field more than once"
I have tried every combination I can think of in relation to the dbf file name location etc.
No joy and the help is useless

'This one works fine
DoCmd.TransferDatabase acLink, "dBase IV", "C:\", acTable, "C:\SIDS.dbf", "tblStudents", False
'This one fails
DoCmd.TransferDatabase acImport, "dBase IV", "C:\", acTable, "C:\SIDS.dbf", "tblStudents", False

many thanks

Drren

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From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Tue Apr  6 03:47:30 2004
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 09:47:30 +0100 
Subject: [AccessD] (no subject)
Message-ID: <F37DAC9A2964B144A2973EBCA8C54DBDABD3B7@BURY2K23.bury.gov.uk>

Hi Group

 

I am looking to rewrite a system (to a VB front end Access BE from Acc FE/Be
in Acc 97).  I still intend to use DAO - I am looking for advice on whether
to upgrade the Be to A2002 ( is this AXP? btw) or keep BE in Acc 97 .

 

TIA

 

Richard



From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Tue Apr  6 03:49:44 2004
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 09:49:44 +0100 
Subject: [AccessD] A97 or A2002 
Message-ID: <F37DAC9A2964B144A2973EBCA8C54DBD25DCB9@BURY2K23.bury.gov.uk>

Hi Group

 

I am looking to rewrite a system (to a VB front end Access BE from Acc FE/Be
in Acc 97).  I still intend to use DAO - I am looking for advice on whether
to upgrade the Be to A2002 ( is this AXP? btw) or keep BE in Acc 97 .

 

TIA

 

Richard

 



From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Apr  6 05:02:50 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 10:02:50 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Transfer Database
Message-ID: <20040406090248.69D1225E4A0@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

That was my first reaction Paul, then I wondered how that could be when
doing an import rather than an export. The fields on the dbf must already be
unique and a max of 10 chars, cos that's all the dbf would allow. Unless the
dbf is non-standard and was created using something other than the usual
packages. In which case you may be right. Certainly worth a look Darren.
Alternatively have you tried the other similar import types to dBase IV,
like 'dbase III', 'dbase 5.0' and all the Foxpro versions?

--
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http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



--------- Original Message --------
From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Transfer Database
Date: 06/04/04 08:44

>
> Darren,
> try taking a look at the first ten characters of the DBase IV table fields
you are trying to import (i.e. you may have something like StudentsID1 and
StudentsID2 if you look at the first ten characters you will only have
StudentsID) for some reason when trying to Export/Import DBase IV tables it
only reads the first ten characters.  Make sure the first ten characters in
your fields are different and then you should be ok.
> Paul
>
>
>
>
>
> Message date : Apr 06 2004, 06:01 AM
> &gt;From : &quot;Darren DICK&quot;
> To : &quot;AccessD List&quot;
> Copy to :
> Subject : [AccessD] A2K: Transfer Database
> hello all
> can anyone tell me why the acLink version of transfer database
> below works but the import version fails? Along with the error message
> &quot;Cannot define Field more than once&quot;
> I have tried every combination I can think of in relation to the dbf file
name location etc.
> No joy and the help is useless
>
> 'This one works fine
> DoCmd.TransferDatabase acLink, &quot;dBase IV&quot;, &quot;C:&quot;,
acTable, &quot;C:SIDS.dbf&quot;, &quot;tblStudents&quot;, False
> 'This one fails
> DoCmd.TransferDatabase acImport, &quot;dBase IV&quot;, &quot;C:&quot;,
acTable, &quot;C:SIDS.dbf&quot;, &quot;tblStudents&quot;, False
>
> many thanks
>
> Drren
>
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From thevigil at kabelfoon.nl  Tue Apr  6 04:48:00 2004
From: thevigil at kabelfoon.nl (Bert-Jan Brinkhuis)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 11:48:00 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Search tool
Message-ID: <001101c41bbc$40bdd200$3f412d3e@jester>

Hi group,

does anyone know of a good search tool / addin or whatever. With which i
will be able to search in queryfields, querycriteris, formcontrols
recordsources etc. to find querynames, tablenames, tablefields, functions
etc.

I hope you understand what i am looking for.....

BTW i will use this in A2K.

Thanks.

Bert-Jan



From SDSSoftware at optusnet.com.au  Tue Apr  6 05:41:49 2004
From: SDSSoftware at optusnet.com.au (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 20:41:49 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Search tool
References: <001101c41bbc$40bdd200$3f412d3e@jester>
Message-ID: <000b01c41bc3$c449cc80$6401a8c0@user>

I can recommend Speed Ferret:

http://www.moshannon.com/speedferret.html

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bert-Jan Brinkhuis 
  To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 7:48 PM
  Subject: [AccessD] Search tool


  Hi group,

  does anyone know of a good search tool / addin or whatever. With which i
  will be able to search in queryfields, querycriteris, formcontrols
  recordsources etc. to find querynames, tablenames, tablefields, functions
  etc.

  I hope you understand what i am looking for.....

  BTW i will use this in A2K.

  Thanks.

  Bert-Jan

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From papparuff at comcast.net  Tue Apr  6 05:47:22 2004
From: papparuff at comcast.net (papparuff at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 10:47:22 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Search tool
Message-ID: <040620041047.29003.40728ABA000593790000714B2200734076FF99998A8D9E8F8F9E@comcast.net>


Speed Ferret is an excellent tool but I prefer Rick Fisher's Find And Replace.  It is about 2/3rds the cost of Speed Ferret and it has served me well for the past 5 years.

Check out http://www.rickworld.com


--
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?Commit to the Lord whatever you do,
    and your plans will succeed.? Proverbs 16:3 
> Hi group,
> 
> does anyone know of a good search tool / addin or whatever. With which i
> will be able to search in queryfields, querycriteris, formcontrols
> recordsources etc. to find querynames, tablenames, tablefields, functions
> etc.
> 
> I hope you understand what i am looking for.....
> 
> BTW i will use this in A2K.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Bert-Jan
> 
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From thevigil at kabelfoon.nl  Tue Apr  6 05:51:54 2004
From: thevigil at kabelfoon.nl (Bert-Jan Brinkhuis)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 12:51:54 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Search tool
References: <040620041047.29003.40728ABA000593790000714B2200734076FF99998A8D9E8F8F9E@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <002501c41bc5$32511b60$3f412d3e@jester>

Thanks John and Kath.

I'll try them both and see what is best for me.

Bert-Jan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <papparuff at comcast.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Search tool


>
> Speed Ferret is an excellent tool but I prefer Rick Fisher's Find And
Replace.  It is about 2/3rds the cost of Speed Ferret and it has served me
well for the past 5 years.
>
> Check out http://www.rickworld.com
>
>
> --
> John V. Ruff - The Eternal Optimist :-)
>
>
> "Commit to the Lord whatever you do,
>     and your plans will succeed." Proverbs 16:3
> > Hi group,
> >
> > does anyone know of a good search tool / addin or whatever. With which i
> > will be able to search in queryfields, querycriteris, formcontrols
> > recordsources etc. to find querynames, tablenames, tablefields,
functions
> > etc.
> >
> > I hope you understand what i am looking for.....
> >
> > BTW i will use this in A2K.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Bert-Jan
> >
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From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Tue Apr  6 06:00:24 2004
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 06:00:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Duplicate Posts
Message-ID: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D527@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>

No, it just started yesterday. I haven't changed any settings.

-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco H Tapia [mailto:my.lists at verizon.net]
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 5:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Duplicate Posts


Hollis,Virginia said the following on 4/5/2004 9:32 AM:

>I am receiving duplicate posts today...
>
>Virginia
>  
>
did anyone else reply to this?.. Is this a rule in your outlook possibly 
causing this??

-- 
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From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Tue Apr  6 06:18:42 2004
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 06:18:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Find Record from Combo
Message-ID: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D528@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>

I have a combo box that is used to GoTo a record. When I first open the
form, I have noticed that the list of choices in the combo box do not show
all the records to go to - it stops at record 9 and there are 57. I can't
scroll any further down the list either it only shows 9 records.

If I go to the last record and come back to record 1, then the combobox list
will show all 57 records. I even tried typing in 57 to go to the record, and
it says it is not in the list.

It is so strange, if I go to record 9 the list shows 9 records, I navigate
to record 10, the list shows 10 records, etc.

A2K.

Virginia

Used on the ComboBox.
Private Sub PickRequest_AfterUpdate()

 Dim strNumber As String
    ' Find the record that matches the control.
    strNumber = "[tbl_RequestMain].[RequestID] = " & Me![PickRequest]
    Me.RecordsetClone.FindFirst strNumber
    Me.Bookmark = Me.RecordsetClone.Bookmark

End Sub


From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Tue Apr  6 06:24:23 2004
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 06:24:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] RE: Find Record from Combo
Message-ID: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D529@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>

I noticed I can't recreate a new combobox either in the current database or
any database. I keep receiving the error: Syntax Error in Query Expression.

I am using the Wizard to create the combo & select option 3 - find a record
based on...

I do not know if this is a related problem with only showing 9 records or a
separate problem. The existing combobox that shows only the 9 records, I
used the code from a previous form.

Virginia

-----Original Message-----
From: Hollis,Virginia 
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 6:19 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Find Record from Combo


I have a combo box that is used to GoTo a record. When I first open the
form, I have noticed that the list of choices in the combo box do not show
all the records to go to - it stops at record 9 and there are 57. I can't
scroll any further down the list either it only shows 9 records.

If I go to the last record and come back to record 1, then the combobox list
will show all 57 records. I even tried typing in 57 to go to the record, and
it says it is not in the list.

It is so strange, if I go to record 9 the list shows 9 records, I navigate
to record 10, the list shows 10 records, etc.

A2K.

Virginia

Used on the ComboBox.
Private Sub PickRequest_AfterUpdate()

 Dim strNumber As String
    ' Find the record that matches the control.
    strNumber = "[tbl_RequestMain].[RequestID] = " & Me![PickRequest]
    Me.RecordsetClone.FindFirst strNumber
    Me.Bookmark = Me.RecordsetClone.Bookmark

End Sub


From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Tue Apr  6 06:47:36 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 07:47:36 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP - Can't create MDE.
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA3080713B@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB3E4@ADGSERVER>

That was it Rocky.

Thanks,
Bobby

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:59 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access XP - Can't create MDE.


Bobby:

I would try making the mde on a different machine to see if the problem is
related to the mdb or to the installation of access on the machine where
it's currently failing.

I would also try the broad spectrum anti-biotic approach - decompile the
mdb.  Then compact, compile, and see if it will make the mde.

HTH

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bobby Heid" <bheid at appdevgrp.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 8:16 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access XP - Can't create MDE.


> Further info:
>
> I just tried again and it crashed this time.  Here is the Error 
> signature for the information that would be sent to MS.
>
> AppName: msaccess.exe AppVer: 10.0.4302.0 ModName: mso.dll
> ModVer: 10.0.4219.0 Offset: 00009777
>
> Thanks,
> Bobby
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:01 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Access XP - Can't create MDE.
>
>
> Hey all,
>
> I have an app that has been compiling to an MDE fine for several 
> months
now.
> All of a sudden, it will not create an MDE.
>
> The app will compile, but when I go to create an MDE (it is in XP 
> format), it asks where I want the output file to go, then sometimes 
> I'll see the progress bar flash to 100%, then it does one of two 
> things.  It will
either
> sit there forever (I have left it for 2 hours before) while still 
> using 80-90% CPU utilization, or it will crash Access XP.  Usually it 
> just
appears
> to lock up.  Note that a normal compile takes maybe 1 minute.
>
> I am pretty sure that I have not installed any new software or 
> anything.
>
> My coworker is able to pull form VSS and compile the app with no 
> problems.
>
> I am running on Windows 2000 Pro, .5G Ram, 700Mhz P-III.
>
> Anyone have any ideas as to what may going wrong?
>
> Thanks,
> Bobby
>
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From serbach at new.rr.com  Tue Apr  6 07:05:56 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 07:05:56 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file
Message-ID: <20040406070556.283970375.serbach@new.rr.com>

Marty, Rocky, and Charlotte,

Thanks very much. I will certainly track down that KB304548.

Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504
 
"I think that the send button actually turns brains on." -- Bryan Carbonnell



From serbach at new.rr.com  Tue Apr  6 07:09:47 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 07:09:47 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file
Message-ID: <20040406070947.153567620.serbach@new.rr.com>

Dan,

>> GoToMyPC <<

I've been evaluating it myself these past few weeks. I, indeed, have suggested it to the appropriate people, but there may be some resistance. It's a domestic violence shelter and they're very chary of sending any data via the Internet for fear that it will be intercepted and fall into the hands of the abusers.

To help them with some of their custom report requests I offered to send them an Access routine to scramble the names, addresses, and phone numbers of every client in their files. They're thinking about it.

Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504
 
"If you can't say anything nice, run for President." - Argus Hamilton



From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca  Tue Apr  6 07:23:42 2004
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 08:23:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Duplicate Posts
Message-ID: <s072691e.043@cbc.ca>

Virginia,

Are you still getting duplicates today?

If you are, could you please forward both copies of the e-mails as
*attachments* so I can check out the internet headers and see if it is
DBAs server.

Please forward the copies to carbonnb at sympatico.ca or
listmaster at databaseadvisors.com

Bryan Carbonnell
bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca

>>> HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com 06-Apr-04 7:00:24 AM >>>
No, it just started yesterday. I haven't changed any settings.

-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco H Tapia [mailto:my.lists at verizon.net] 
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 5:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Duplicate Posts


Hollis,Virginia said the following on 4/5/2004 9:32 AM:

>I am receiving duplicate posts today...
>
>Virginia
>  



From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca  Tue Apr  6 07:45:49 2004
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 08:45:49 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file
Message-ID: <s0726e4d.060@cbc.ca>

Steve,

To aleviate their security concerns, you can use VNC over a Secure
Tunnel, if you don't mind piecing together a solution. It uses OpenSSL,
which is the defacto standard for Encryption on *nix these days. It's
the same encryption that most Secure web sites use.

You will need
OpenSSL(http://www.slproweb.com/products/Win32OpenSSL.html for a
precompiled Win32 binary) for the encryption, Stunnel
(http://www.stunnel.org/download/binaries.html for a precompiled
Win32 binary) for the Tunnel and a VNC client, http://www.realvnc.com/
or http://www.tightvnc.com/ or http://ultravnc.sourceforge.net/ I
personally use TightVNC

Once it's set up, you should be able to create a VNC session over a
secure tunnel over the internet.

I've never done it personally, but its possible.

Bryan Carbonnell
bryan_carbonnelL at cbc.ca

>>> serbach at new.rr.com 06-Apr-04 8:09:47 AM >>>
Dan,

>> GoToMyPC <<

I've been evaluating it myself these past few weeks. I, indeed, have
suggested it to the appropriate people, but there may be some
resistance. It's a domestic violence shelter and they're very chary of
sending any data via the Internet for fear that it will be intercepted
and fall into the hands of the abusers.

To help them with some of their custom report requests I offered to
send them an Access routine to scramble the names, addresses, and phone
numbers of every client in their files. They're thinking about it.



From serbach at new.rr.com  Tue Apr  6 08:06:43 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 08:06:43 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file
Message-ID: <20040406080643.1599552369.serbach@new.rr.com>

Bryan,

>> I've never done it personally, but its possible. <<

Well, there ya went and ruined it for me! I was all charged up with confidence and then ya had to do THIS to me!

Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504
 
"Congress is as trustworthy with money as a crack addict who is experimenting with heroin." - Dave Barry
 
"Giving money and power to the government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys." - P. J. O'Rourke
 
"Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for." - Will Rogers
 
"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly American criminal class except Congress." - Mark Twain



From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca  Tue Apr  6 08:22:08 2004
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 09:22:08 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file
Message-ID: <s07276d5.031@cbc.ca>

Well then how's this to instill confidence again.

I've used VNC. I've used OpenSSL. Both easy to use and set up. H*ll
I've even compiled OpenSSL (on an Liunux box :) 

However, here are some links that may help if you want to give it a
go.

Straight from the horses mouth: http://www.stunnel.org/examples/ or
more specifically http://www.stunnel.org/examples/vnc.html

or from someone else:
http://stunnel.mirt.net/static/VNC_StunnelHOWTO.html or
http://faq.gotomyvnc.com/fom-serve/cache/33.html 

How about an article from Security Focus on how to do it
http://www.securityfocus.com/infocus/1677 It looks like it has a
step-by-step.

or google's 33,100 hits
http://www.google.ca/search?q=vnc+stunnel&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search&meta=

Bryan Carbonnell
bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca

>>> serbach at new.rr.com 06-Apr-04 9:06:43 AM >>>
Bryan,

>> I've never done it personally, but its possible. <<

Well, there ya went and ruined it for me! I was all charged up with
confidence and then ya had to do THIS to me!

Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504
 
"Congress is as trustworthy with money as a crack addict who is
experimenting with heroin." - Dave Barry
 
"Giving money and power to the government is like giving whiskey and
car keys to teenage boys." - P. J. O'Rourke
 
"Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for." -
Will Rogers
 
"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no
distinctly American criminal class except Congress." - Mark Twain



From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Tue Apr  6 08:33:16 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 08:33:16 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file
Message-ID: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE4C8@TAPPEEXCH01>

We tried GoToMyPC here.  Had a number of problems, especially when working
in a "2-way" teleconference where both parties were driving the machine.
The machine would hang while waiting for the other party to move their
mouse, click a key, etc.

I followed Drew's suggestion a while back, and picked up a copy of Remote
Administrator (www.radmin.com).  $35 covers the license for 2 machines.  No
monthly charges.  No headaches.  Works for us!


-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com]
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 5:35 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file


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Steve,

I don't have an answer to your specific problem, but since your client is
distant this might help:

Have your client download a trial version of GoToMyPC.  He can set up an
account for himself.  GoToMyPC has a feature called 'Guest Invite'.  He can
use this to let you see what's happening on his screen, and you can control
his PC from yours so you can do some troubleshooting.  

I guess this is similar to WebEx or PCAnywhere.  If he decides to keep the
GoToMyPC account, he only needs to pay $15/mo.  I use it to work with my
clients so they can see 'drafts' of what I'm doing without making a trip.

Best of Luck!
Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steven W. Erbach
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 10:33 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file

Dear Group,

I have an Access 2000 FE/BE application loaded on a client's system in
another city 90 miles away. I've been working with their network guy over
the phone and he's sent me screen shots of error messages along the way.
Here's the situation.

The "master" MDB FE database is loaded on the server. I have the local
people there create an MDE and place it in another folder so that's it's
available for the users who download it to their workstations when a new
version is ready. While working with my client's network guy, Bob, the MDE
file SEEMS to be created all right; but once the compacting is finished and
the FE starts up, the first form opens and he gets this message (it's an "i"
message):

The expression On Load you entered as the event property setting produced
the following error: Error accessing file. Network connection may have been
lost.

  * The expression may not result in the name of a macro, the name of a
user-defined function, or [Event Procedure].
  * There may have been an error evaluating the function, event, or macro.

When he clicks OK the startup form (which is supposed to be hidden) is there
on the screen and the application has halted.

INVESTIGATION:

1) They don't have the Documentor installed so I can't see what the path is
to the BE.

2) However, I do have a form (that I cobbed from Steve Nyberg) that shows
all the links with their paths. When we attempt to open this form we get the
message you see above. Click OK on the message and Nyberg's SeeLinks form
opens but with nothing showing up regarding linked tables.

3) I can open the linked tables from the "master" front end. But when I open
the table that contains the latest version number (part of the version
upgrade system) I see something odd. This Versions table has one row. The
table has a Default value of the Now() function in the VersionDate column.
On my system when I look at the table I see the first row all right and in
the 2nd (empty) row I see (AutoNumber) in the key field and today's date and
time in the VersionDate column. On my client's system he sees #Name? in the
VersionDate column in an empty row. He cannot add information in a new row
because Access doesn't like the default value. So I had Bob remove the
default value. I still get the main problem.

4) The users can still run the application from their workstations using the
old version of the FE. There hasn't been any problem there.

5) The Startup form of the FE calls Carl Tribble's Auto-Linker to check the
link status of the first table before the main switchboard menu appears.
This is all working properly on the users' workstations.

6) I tried Compact and Repair on both the BE and the FE. No change in basic
error.

7) I checked the references. They're all there.

8) Only thing I haven't done (at least that I know how to do) is a
/decompile on the "master" FE on the server.

I'm sorry about the length of this message. I somehow doubt that I would
find the problem even if I were sitting at the workstation. Bob is very
capable, so I'm sure he's relaying to me everything that he sees.

At least my clients can still work with the older version of the app. I am
just stumped why this error message appears in the "master" front end
database. Any thoughts, other than "Well, why the heck do you let the user
make an MDE in the first place, ya numbskull?!"

Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504
 
"Congress is as trustworthy with money as a crack addict who is
experimenting with heroin." - Dave Barry
 
"Giving money and power to the government is like giving whiskey and car
keys to teenage boys." - P. J. O'Rourke
 
"Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for." - Will
Rogers
 
"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly
American criminal class except Congress." - Mark Twain


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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Apr  6 09:13:18 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 09:13:18 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file
In-Reply-To: <19244937.1081259191497.JavaMail.root@sniper2.marix.com>
Message-ID: <000601c41be1$4f82f2f0$de1811d8@DanWaters>

I have to say that I haven't had any problems yet with GoToMyPC.  It seems
that the host PC has priority over the keyboard and mouse activities.  A
high-speed internet connection on both ends is required.

I will check out Remote Administrator - the price is good!

Dan Waters



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 8:33 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file

We tried GoToMyPC here.  Had a number of problems, especially when working
in a "2-way" teleconference where both parties were driving the machine.
The machine would hang while waiting for the other party to move their
mouse, click a key, etc.

I followed Drew's suggestion a while back, and picked up a copy of Remote
Administrator (www.radmin.com).  $35 covers the license for 2 machines.  No
monthly charges.  No headaches.  Works for us!


-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com]
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 5:35 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file


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Steve,

I don't have an answer to your specific problem, but since your client is
distant this might help:

Have your client download a trial version of GoToMyPC.  He can set up an
account for himself.  GoToMyPC has a feature called 'Guest Invite'.  He can
use this to let you see what's happening on his screen, and you can control
his PC from yours so you can do some troubleshooting.  

I guess this is similar to WebEx or PCAnywhere.  If he decides to keep the
GoToMyPC account, he only needs to pay $15/mo.  I use it to work with my
clients so they can see 'drafts' of what I'm doing without making a trip.

Best of Luck!
Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steven W. Erbach
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 10:33 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file

Dear Group,

I have an Access 2000 FE/BE application loaded on a client's system in
another city 90 miles away. I've been working with their network guy over
the phone and he's sent me screen shots of error messages along the way.
Here's the situation.

The "master" MDB FE database is loaded on the server. I have the local
people there create an MDE and place it in another folder so that's it's
available for the users who download it to their workstations when a new
version is ready. While working with my client's network guy, Bob, the MDE
file SEEMS to be created all right; but once the compacting is finished and
the FE starts up, the first form opens and he gets this message (it's an "i"
message):

The expression On Load you entered as the event property setting produced
the following error: Error accessing file. Network connection may have been
lost.

  * The expression may not result in the name of a macro, the name of a
user-defined function, or [Event Procedure].
  * There may have been an error evaluating the function, event, or macro.

When he clicks OK the startup form (which is supposed to be hidden) is there
on the screen and the application has halted.

INVESTIGATION:

1) They don't have the Documentor installed so I can't see what the path is
to the BE.

2) However, I do have a form (that I cobbed from Steve Nyberg) that shows
all the links with their paths. When we attempt to open this form we get the
message you see above. Click OK on the message and Nyberg's SeeLinks form
opens but with nothing showing up regarding linked tables.

3) I can open the linked tables from the "master" front end. But when I open
the table that contains the latest version number (part of the version
upgrade system) I see something odd. This Versions table has one row. The
table has a Default value of the Now() function in the VersionDate column.
On my system when I look at the table I see the first row all right and in
the 2nd (empty) row I see (AutoNumber) in the key field and today's date and
time in the VersionDate column. On my client's system he sees #Name? in the
VersionDate column in an empty row. He cannot add information in a new row
because Access doesn't like the default value. So I had Bob remove the
default value. I still get the main problem.

4) The users can still run the application from their workstations using the
old version of the FE. There hasn't been any problem there.

5) The Startup form of the FE calls Carl Tribble's Auto-Linker to check the
link status of the first table before the main switchboard menu appears.
This is all working properly on the users' workstations.

6) I tried Compact and Repair on both the BE and the FE. No change in basic
error.

7) I checked the references. They're all there.

8) Only thing I haven't done (at least that I know how to do) is a
/decompile on the "master" FE on the server.

I'm sorry about the length of this message. I somehow doubt that I would
find the problem even if I were sitting at the workstation. Bob is very
capable, so I'm sure he's relaying to me everything that he sees.

At least my clients can still work with the older version of the app. I am
just stumped why this error message appears in the "master" front end
database. Any thoughts, other than "Well, why the heck do you let the user
make an MDE in the first place, ya numbskull?!"

Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
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From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Tue Apr  6 09:53:14 2004
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 07:53:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] MS Access to VB.Net
Message-ID: <20040406145314.54399.qmail@web20416.mail.yahoo.com>

Does anyone know of a free untility/application that can convert an MS Access application to VB.Net?
 
Thanks.



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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr  6 09:58:25 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 10:58:25 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
Message-ID: <20040406145847.NMC1781.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Someone has asked me "What's in the future for Microsoft and the Open Source
movement? "
 
It's such a huge topic I couldn't really answer -- it's going to take me a
few days to formulate a response. It is a tad off topic for a strictly
Access list -- and I don't want any MS bashing, just because that would be
even more off topic -- but anyone want to make a comment on the subject? I'd
love to hear them -- my initial response to the guy was "Resistance is
futile" but that's only really funny if you're saying it from the MS
perspective. ;) 
 
Susan H. 


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Apr  6 10:10:10 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 08:10:10 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] MS Access to VB.Net
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8631270B@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Not for free, but there is a product called Evolution
http://www.perfectdownloads.com/software-development/basic-vb-vb-dotnet/
download-evolution.htm that is not too expensive and can be tried out
for free.

Charlotte Foust

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Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 6:53 AM
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access;
AccessD solving'
Subject: [AccessD] MS Access to VB.Net


Does anyone know of a free untility/application that can convert an MS
Access application to VB.Net?
 
Thanks.



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From mwp.reid at queens-belfast.ac.uk  Tue Apr  6 10:04:54 2004
From: mwp.reid at queens-belfast.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 16:04:54 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <20040406145847.NMC1781.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <SIMEON.10404061654.A@TUG00001.fujin.qub.ac.uk>

>From our point of view it would be difficult in terms of 
money and infrastructure to change over. The amount of work 
would be massive requiring a substantial investment in both 
hardware, software and training.

Its not impossible just take the will to make the move.

Martin

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Apr  6 10:22:12 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 08:22:12 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A97 or A2002 
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8632C522@infoserver01.infostat.local>

You can use DAO with A2002 (and yes, that is AXP), so that isn't a
problem.  The 97 file format is smaller because it doesn't use unicode,
but I would suggest using the 2000 file format because it does use
unicode and it doesn't have the extra bloat problem that exists in 2002.
The file size will roughly double between 97 and 2000/2002 because of
unicode.  

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 12:50 AM
To: AccessD (AccessD at databaseadvisors.com)
Subject: [AccessD] A97 or A2002 


Hi Group

 

I am looking to rewrite a system (to a VB front end Access BE from Acc
FE/Be in Acc 97).  I still intend to use DAO - I am looking for advice
on whether to upgrade the Be to A2002 ( is this AXP? btw) or keep BE in
Acc 97 .

 

TIA

 

Richard

 

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr  6 10:24:03 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 11:24:03 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <SIMEON.10404061654.A@TUG00001.fujin.qub.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <20040406152426.QPZO1746.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

But why should they?

Susan H. 

>From our point of view it would be difficult in terms of
money and infrastructure to change over. The amount of work would be massive
requiring a substantial investment in both hardware, software and training.

Its not impossible just take the will to make the move.




From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca  Tue Apr  6 10:30:12 2004
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 11:30:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
Message-ID: <s07294d4.078@cbc.ca>

Susan,

I don't have time right now, but I'll post something later this
afternoon or tonight.

Bryan Carbonnell
bryan_carbnnell at cbc.ca

>>> ssharkins at bellsouth.net 06-Apr-04 10:58:25 AM >>>
Someone has asked me "What's in the future for Microsoft and the Open
Source
movement? "
 
It's such a huge topic I couldn't really answer -- it's going to take
me a
few days to formulate a response. It is a tad off topic for a strictly
Access list -- and I don't want any MS bashing, just because that would
be
even more off topic -- but anyone want to make a comment on the
subject? I'd
love to hear them -- my initial response to the guy was "Resistance is
futile" but that's only really funny if you're saying it from the MS
perspective. ;) 
 
Susan H. 
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From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Tue Apr  6 10:43:22 2004
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 16:43:22 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
References: <20040406152426.QPZO1746.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <000b01c41bed$e465ea60$9111758f@aine>

WHy should we move?

Money, costs us a fortune for MS licences


Martin


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 4:24 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: open source


> But why should they?
>
> Susan H.
>
> >From our point of view it would be difficult in terms of
> money and infrastructure to change over. The amount of work would be
massive
> requiring a substantial investment in both hardware, software and
training.
>
> Its not impossible just take the will to make the move.
>
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr  6 10:51:58 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 11:51:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <000b01c41bed$e465ea60$9111758f@aine>
Message-ID: <20040406155218.WWBW1775.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Oh, I'm not confronting license prices as is -- but that's not a motivation
for MS to move -- it's a motivation for you to want them to change their
policy. ;) I thought you guys were an MS shop already -- you're not?

Susan H. 

WHy should we move?

Money, costs us a fortune for MS licences


Martin


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From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 4:24 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: open source


> But why should they?
>
> Susan H.
>
> >From our point of view it would be difficult in terms of
> money and infrastructure to change over. The amount of work would be
massive
> requiring a substantial investment in both hardware, software and
training.
>
> Its not impossible just take the will to make the move.
>
>
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From jwelz at hotmail.com  Tue Apr  6 11:42:30 2004
From: jwelz at hotmail.com (Jürgen Welz)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 10:42:30 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
Message-ID: <BAY2-F94xNN8WVYgh4E00018e6d@hotmail.com>

I get a news letter 'What's New Now from Ziff Davis' that had links to a 
number of articles alleging that the TCO of Microsoft product was cheaper 
than open source alternatives.  I very briefly skimmed the article but don't 
have access to the mail account that receives this news letter except 
Fridays when I do my weekly support stint at a former employer who maintains 
this account for me.

I suspect that many of the arguments have to do with the ubiquitousness of 
the Microsoft product in North America, the pervasive use of which results 
in a significantly reduced learning curve for many businesses.

Ciao
J?rgen Welz
Edmonton, Alberta
jwelz at hotmail.com


>Money, costs us a fortune for MS licences
>
>
>Martin
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 4:24 PM
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: open source
>
>
> > But why should they?
> >
> > Susan H.
> >
> > >From our point of view it would be difficult in terms of
> > money and infrastructure to change over. The amount of work would be
>massive
> > requiring a substantial investment in both hardware, software and
>training.
> >
> > Its not impossible just take the will to make the move.

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From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Tue Apr  6 11:56:05 2004
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 17:56:05 +0100 
Subject: [AccessD] A97 or A2002 
Message-ID: <F37DAC9A2964B144A2973EBCA8C54DBD25DCBF@BURY2K23.bury.gov.uk>

Charlotte
Thanks for your reply - I assume you can choose when you load A2002 (AXP) to
have 2000 format?  What are the benefits for Unicode - what other benefits
does A2000 have?
Thanks


-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] 
Sent: 06 April 2004 16:22
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A97 or A2002 

You can use DAO with A2002 (and yes, that is AXP), so that isn't a
problem.  The 97 file format is smaller because it doesn't use unicode,
but I would suggest using the 2000 file format because it does use
unicode and it doesn't have the extra bloat problem that exists in 2002.
The file size will roughly double between 97 and 2000/2002 because of
unicode.  

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 12:50 AM
To: AccessD (AccessD at databaseadvisors.com)
Subject: [AccessD] A97 or A2002 


Hi Group

 

I am looking to rewrite a system (to a VB front end Access BE from Acc
FE/Be in Acc 97).  I still intend to use DAO - I am looking for advice
on whether to upgrade the Be to A2002 ( is this AXP? btw) or keep BE in
Acc 97 .

 

TIA

 

Richard

 

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From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Tue Apr  6 12:20:32 2004
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 18:20:32 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
References: <20040406155218.WWBW1775.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <000d01c41bfb$789ccde0$1b02a8c0@MARTINREID>

We are. Sorry for confusion.

Martin
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 4:51 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: open source


> Oh, I'm not confronting license prices as is -- but that's not a
motivation
> for MS to move -- it's a motivation for you to want them to change their
> policy. ;) I thought you guys were an MS shop already -- you're not?
>
> Susan H.
>
> WHy should we move?
>
> Money, costs us a fortune for MS licences
>
>
> Martin
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 4:24 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: open source
>
>
> > But why should they?
> >
> > Susan H.
> >
> > >From our point of view it would be difficult in terms of
> > money and infrastructure to change over. The amount of work would be
> massive
> > requiring a substantial investment in both hardware, software and
> training.
> >
> > Its not impossible just take the will to make the move.
> >
> >
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Apr  6 12:37:11 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 10:37:11 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A97 or A2002 
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312710@infoserver01.infostat.local>

The format is selected on a database basis, but 2000 is the default
format.  You can set the default to 2002, but the database opens in
whatever format you used to create/convert it.  I'll let someone else
address the unicode issue.  

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 8:56 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A97 or A2002 


Charlotte
Thanks for your reply - I assume you can choose when you load A2002
(AXP) to have 2000 format?  What are the benefits for Unicode - what
other benefits does A2000 have? Thanks


-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] 
Sent: 06 April 2004 16:22
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A97 or A2002 

You can use DAO with A2002 (and yes, that is AXP), so that isn't a
problem.  The 97 file format is smaller because it doesn't use unicode,
but I would suggest using the 2000 file format because it does use
unicode and it doesn't have the extra bloat problem that exists in 2002.
The file size will roughly double between 97 and 2000/2002 because of
unicode.  

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 12:50 AM
To: AccessD (AccessD at databaseadvisors.com)
Subject: [AccessD] A97 or A2002 


Hi Group

 

I am looking to rewrite a system (to a VB front end Access BE from Acc
FE/Be in Acc 97).  I still intend to use DAO - I am looking for advice
on whether to upgrade the Be to A2002 ( is this AXP? btw) or keep BE in
Acc 97 .

 

TIA

 

Richard

 

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From my.lists at verizon.net  Tue Apr  6 13:39:32 2004
From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 11:39:32 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Lightweight security (Revisited)
Message-ID: <4072F964.8050307@verizon.net>

I'm not much into the light weight security, however... after reading 
several of John's posts, I'm sure others have wanted a feature like 
this: check out the following article in which they feature an Access 
LightWeight security, but they call it LASsie.
http://advisor.com/doc/13743

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr  6 12:59:26 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 13:59:26 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <000d01c41bfb$789ccde0$1b02a8c0@MARTINREID>
Message-ID: <20040406175945.JJMC1709.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I can understand the push for open source from the development side -- I
just don't see the issues that motivate MS to actually go that route. 

Susan H. 

We are. Sorry for confusion.




From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr  6 14:58:56 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 15:58:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Search tool
References: <040620041047.29003.40728ABA000593790000714B2200734076FF99998A8D9E8F8F9E@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <006501c41c11$98145e70$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...F&R is comparatively inexpensive but ime, SF works much, much faster and
has a lot of options simply not found in F&R ...I switched to F&R for awhile
when SF was late getting an AXP version released but switched right back as
soon as they released it.

Political advertising is the price of our chains ...my name is William
Hindman and I approve this message :)

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To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
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Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 6:47 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Search tool


>
> Speed Ferret is an excellent tool but I prefer Rick Fisher's Find And
Replace.  It is about 2/3rds the cost of Speed Ferret and it has served me
well for the past 5 years.
>
> Check out http://www.rickworld.com
>
>
> --
> John V. Ruff - The Eternal Optimist :-)
>
>
> "Commit to the Lord whatever you do,
>     and your plans will succeed." Proverbs 16:3
> > Hi group,
> >
> > does anyone know of a good search tool / addin or whatever. With which i
> > will be able to search in queryfields, querycriteris, formcontrols
> > recordsources etc. to find querynames, tablenames, tablefields,
functions
> > etc.
> >
> > I hope you understand what i am looking for.....
> >
> > BTW i will use this in A2K.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Bert-Jan
> >
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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Tue Apr  6 16:02:41 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 16:02:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Help with Error accessing file
In-Reply-To: <200404061715.i36HFPB18999@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040406160114.02af0ea0@pop3.highstream.net>

Steve,

I do not know why no one else caught this.  The database is corrupt.  That 
is one of the errors you get when it is.

Robert

At 12:15 PM 4/6/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steven W. Erbach
>Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 10:33 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file
>
>Dear Group,
>
>I have an Access 2000 FE/BE application loaded on a client's system in
>another city 90 miles away. I've been working with their network guy over
>the phone and he's sent me screen shots of error messages along the way.
>Here's the situation.
>
>The "master" MDB FE database is loaded on the server. I have the local
>people there create an MDE and place it in another folder so that's it's
>available for the users who download it to their workstations when a new
>version is ready. While working with my client's network guy, Bob, the MDE
>file SEEMS to be created all right; but once the compacting is finished and
>the FE starts up, the first form opens and he gets this message (it's an "i"
>message):
>
>The expression On Load you entered as the event property setting produced
>the following error: Error accessing file. Network connection may have been
>lost.
>
>   * The expression may not result in the name of a macro, the name of a
>user-defined function, or [Event Procedure].
>   * There may have been an error evaluating the function, event, or macro.
>
>When he clicks OK the startup form (which is supposed to be hidden) is there
>on the screen and the application has halted.
>
>INVESTIGATION:
>
>1) They don't have the Documentor installed so I can't see what the path is
>to the BE.
>
>2) However, I do have a form (that I cobbed from Steve Nyberg) that shows
>all the links with their paths. When we attempt to open this form we get the
>message you see above. Click OK on the message and Nyberg's SeeLinks form
>opens but with nothing showing up regarding linked tables.
>
>3) I can open the linked tables from the "master" front end. But when I open
>the table that contains the latest version number (part of the version
>upgrade system) I see something odd. This Versions table has one row. The
>table has a Default value of the Now() function in the VersionDate column.
>On my system when I look at the table I see the first row all right and in
>the 2nd (empty) row I see (AutoNumber) in the key field and today's date and
>time in the VersionDate column. On my client's system he sees #Name? in the
>VersionDate column in an empty row. He cannot add information in a new row
>because Access doesn't like the default value. So I had Bob remove the
>default value. I still get the main problem.
>
>4) The users can still run the application from their workstations using the
>old version of the FE. There hasn't been any problem there.
>
>5) The Startup form of the FE calls Carl Tribble's Auto-Linker to check the
>link status of the first table before the main switchboard menu appears.
>This is all working properly on the users' workstations.
>
>6) I tried Compact and Repair on both the BE and the FE. No change in basic
>error.
>
>7) I checked the references. They're all there.
>
>8) Only thing I haven't done (at least that I know how to do) is a
>/decompile on the "master" FE on the server.
>
>I'm sorry about the length of this message. I somehow doubt that I would
>find the problem even if I were sitting at the workstation. Bob is very
>capable, so I'm sure he's relaying to me everything that he sees.
>
>At least my clients can still work with the older version of the app. I am
>just stumped why this error message appears in the "master" front end
>database. Any thoughts, other than "Well, why the heck do you let the user
>make an MDE in the first place, ya numbskull?!"
>
>Regards,
>
>Steve Erbach
>Scientific Marketing
>Neenah, WI
>920-969-0504




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr  6 16:49:03 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 07:49:03 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <20040406145847.NMC1781.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <4073B26F.4145.132DAB@localhost>

On 6 Apr 2004 at 10:58, Susan Harkins wrote:

> Someone has asked me "What's in the future for Microsoft and the Open Source
> movement? "
>  
> It's such a huge topic I couldn't really answer -- it's going to take me a
> few days to formulate a response. It is a tad off topic for a strictly
> Access list -- and I don't want any MS bashing, just because that would be
> even more off topic -- but anyone want to make a comment on the subject? I'd
> love to hear them -- my initial response to the guy was "Resistance is
> futile" but that's only really funny if you're saying it from the MS
> perspective. ;) 
>  

I think that Peruvian Congressmen Edgar Villanueva Nu?ez summed up 
the arguments fairly well:

http://www.opensource.org/docs/peru_and_ms.php 
-- 
Lexacorp Ltd
http://www.lexacorp.com.pg
Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System 
Support.





From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca  Tue Apr  6 16:46:58 2004
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 17:46:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
Message-ID: <s072f020.079@cbc.ca>

Warning!!! I got very, very verbose.

In the grand scheme of things, I don't think that MS has to worry a lot
about open source on the desktop for quite a few more years. Once some
of the desktop apps start to mature a bit more, I think MS will start
being given a run for their money. Things like OpenOffice (office
suite), Firefox (web browser), ThunderBird(e-mail client). Once they
start to take a hold, then MS will definitely need to watch what they
do. Actually they are probably watching now and don't like what they
see. The open source apps are *almost* there, but they have their
quirks, that either need to get fixed, or users will get used to them.
Just like they did, and do, with MS products.

As for the actual Desktop operating system, that is further out. 5-7
years would be my guess. Linux needs a few things to become more
competitive with Windows. It *needs* to become less "geek-friendly" and
more "user friendly". It also *NEEDS* to have a "standard" GUI, or at
least a standard layout. That way the end user can find what they are
looking for with minimal effort. Fragmentation, between KDE and Gnome
and all the lesser known desktops, is really hurting Linux's acceptance
on the desktop. Home and corporate. The choice to use your preferred
desktop needs to exist, but it's got to start out looking and feeling
the same as the next one. That way a user can go from this PC to that PC
to the other and have the "same experience" Much the same way Windows
users have it right now. yes I know there are differences between 9x,
NT4, 2K and XP (both the classic UI and the "Fisher Price" one{that I
happen to like :) } ). they are slightly different, but close enough for
most people to stumble their way around. Unfortunately the Linux
X-Widows desktops don't have that "portability" right now. The choice to
use which ever one you want needs to remain, for the hard core Linux
users, but for the average user, they don't care. Just let them set
their wallpaper to their dog or cat or kids and make sure they can use
the tools they need to do their job and they are happy. Yep, I know that
is a bit condescending to the users, but I don't think its' that far
from the truth

Now, in the server room, I think that MS has got more to worry about.
Just like the switch from Novell to MS happened (although I disagree
that Novell networks are dead), I really think that the switch to Linux
there is already  happening.

As more and more SysAdmins set up "test" boxes to "play" with Linux and
end up part of the network infrastructure, Linux will become more and
more the choice for new servers. With all the excellent and mature
server software for Linux, that is out there, MS better watch themselves
otherwise they will lose the server room. Is Linux better than Win
Servers? Are either better than Novell? Is Novell better that either
one? No to all the questions. They all fill different needs. 

If I am Novell certified, then of course I'm going to lean towards
Novell servers and be able to "make it work". If I am MS certified, then
that is where my loyalties will be. If I'm comfortable with Unix or
Linux, then Linux will be the server of choice for me. All 3 would work
equally well. 

I'd almost be willing to bet that if I had 3 equally competent
SysAdmins, one for each Linux, MS and Novell, the TCO would be similar
enough to not be a deciding factor. As more and more SysAdmins become
more and more comfortable with Linux you'll see they start taking market
share away from MS, and not just the Unix vendors like they are now.

As MS makes the hardware specs higher and higher for their servers,
increases the license costs and p*sses more and more people with the
changes in the license agreements, then Linux servers will replace MS
servers one by one. I don't think you will see a lot of people saying
"Rip out all the MS servers and replace them with Linux servers", what
you will see is people saying "We need another server, so let's use
Linux, since it can integrate with our network as it is"

Now, I know that isn't really answering your question Susan, but I'm
getting to that. :)

MS needs to take the Open Source community seriously. Its making
inroads into a lot of places that I never thought it would. My house for
one. I have long been a strong MS proponent. Well actually, since about
92 or 93, when I first started using Windows. But as Open Source is
maturing, it is looking like a better alternative to me. I am using a
whole host of Open Source apps in my day to day life. They are
comparable to commercial apps. Things like Filezilla (FTP client, but I
know you know that already Susan :)and Firefox (web browser). Why should
I fork $40 or $50 or $100 for an app that I can get for free? Yes, I
know that with the paid apps, I get tech support, but these days tech
support for software is crap. The last time I *NEEDED* software support,
was about 4 or 5 years ago when I got bad discs. I took it back to the
store where I bought it until I had gone through EVERY SINGLE
SHRINK-WRAPPED PACKAGE they had. I finally contacted the vendor and got
the run around trying to get these defective discs replaced. It took me
about 3 months to get it sorted out. For $100 I should get better
service than that. I'd much sooner deal with an online community, such
as DBA, for the software support than the vendor. I get better and more
accurate responses.

Will MS need to make their stuff Open Source to survive? I don't think
so. 
Will MS Open Source their software anyway? I really doubt it. Maybe
bits and pieces, but the whole thing, No way.
Will MS incorporate Open Source into their software? As far as I
understand, they already have with the TCP/IP stack. Its based on the
BSD stack, IIRC. 

Keep in mind that there are several different Open Source licenses.
There are 2 that I am most familiar with.

1) There is the Gnu Public Licence(GPL) which in a nutshell says that
the software, and any software derived for it MUST make available the
source code to those that ask. You can charge for the software if you
want, but the source code must be given upon request. This is what the
Linux Kernel is distributed under.

2) BSD style license. Basically this says that you can do what you wan
t with the source code. You can leave it open, you can build a derived
work and keep it open. You can create a derivative and close it. You can
do what ever you want, except claim you wrote the original. Mac OS X is
built on one of the BSD operating systems. It is a closed derivative of
BSD. If you want to see a BSD style license look at the license
agreement that we (Andy, Lembit, Reuben and I) used for the BEU.

So they are allowed to use BSD style open source material in their
applications. So, I suspect that they will continue to use it. However,
there is the expectation that if you improve open source code, you
return the improved code to the community. I can't see MS doing this
freely, or at least "in the open". It will hurt their "public image"

To sum up, in 10,000 words or less :) 

MS needs to watch the open source community. It will hurt them if they
are not careful. It won't be a quick kill, but slow and gradual.
Actually it will probably hurt them even if they are careful. MS
probably won't open source their code, but will use what they can from
the community and get away with.

Is open source a panacea? No way. But then again, neither is MS. It's a
choice that is becoming more and more viable especially as the software
becomes more mature. Will it hurt MS? In the long run, more likely than
not, but MS will survive. They may be different, but they will still be
there.

How's that for $0.02 worth of opinion.

Bryan Carbonnell
bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca


>>> ssharkins at bellsouth.net 04/06/04 10:58AM >>>
Someone has asked me "What's in the future for Microsoft and the Open
Source
movement? "
 
It's such a huge topic I couldn't really answer -- it's going to take
me a
few days to formulate a response. It is a tad off topic for a strictly
Access list -- and I don't want any MS bashing, just because that would
be
even more off topic -- but anyone want to make a comment on the
subject? I'd
love to hear them -- my initial response to the guy was "Resistance is
futile" but that's only really funny if you're saying it from the MS
perspective. ;) 



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr  6 17:18:18 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 18:18:18 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <s072f020.079@cbc.ca>
Message-ID: <20040406221838.PADI1715.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

That was very good and very close to my own opinions except I just don't
have the expertise to speak to servers. I think MS will adjust and change as
necessary -- but can't really predict what that will mean. 

My question is this -- if they're all giving it up for free -- how are they
going to make money and stay in business. Support? Is there really going to
be enough support $ to cover it? I wouldn't think so. Anybody using MySQL
and paying for the support? I absolutely hate using MySQL, but I wouldn't
pay for support. There's got to be part of the puzzle that I'm missing. 

Susan H. 

Is open source a panacea? No way. But then again, neither is MS. It's a
choice that is becoming more and more viable especially as the software
becomes more mature. Will it hurt MS? In the long run, more likely than not,
but MS will survive. They may be different, but they will still be there.




From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Tue Apr  6 17:48:37 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 18:48:37 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB49@nnse14.nns.com>

Congressman DR. EDGAR DAVID VILLANUEVA NU?EZ's reply was simply AWESOME!
Well worth the read.



Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart McLachlan [mailto:stuart at lexacorp.com.pg] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 5:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: open source


On 6 Apr 2004 at 10:58, Susan Harkins wrote:

> Someone has asked me "What's in the future for Microsoft and the Open
Source
> movement? "
>  
> It's such a huge topic I couldn't really answer -- it's going to take me a
> few days to formulate a response. It is a tad off topic for a strictly
> Access list -- and I don't want any MS bashing, just because that would be
> even more off topic -- but anyone want to make a comment on the subject?
I'd
> love to hear them -- my initial response to the guy was "Resistance is
> futile" but that's only really funny if you're saying it from the MS
> perspective. ;) 
>  

I think that Peruvian Congressmen Edgar Villanueva Nu?ez summed up 
the arguments fairly well:

http://www.opensource.org/docs/peru_and_ms.php 
-- 
Lexacorp Ltd
http://www.lexacorp.com.pg
Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System 
Support.



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From my.lists at verizon.net  Tue Apr  6 17:51:53 2004
From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 15:51:53 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <s072f020.079@cbc.ca>
References: <s072f020.079@cbc.ca>
Message-ID: <40733489.2040700@verizon.net>

Bryan Carbonnell said the following on 4/6/2004 2:46 PM:

>As for the actual Desktop operating system, that is further out. 5-7
>years would be my guess. Linux needs a few things to become more
>competitive with Windows. It *needs* to become less "geek-friendly" and
>more "user friendly". It also *NEEDS* to have a "standard" GUI, or at
>least a standard layout. 
>
While I agree with you I also have to guess that a Linux convertion may 
be closer than we all guess.  There have been leaps and bounds in which 
the various distros have improved their desktop products.  I also must 
concur that a standardized GUI would be the killer blow that would/will 
ultimately drive hords of users away from Microsoft.  I base my opinion 
off such distros like RedHat or even the newest one I've seen 
(Knopixx).  Wich is an OS bootable completely off the CD.  It is Linux, 
and what makes this even more cool is that you could theoretically put 
out a distro that would make it so that end users "couldn't" break thier 
installations.  Just always boot from the CD.  With High end products 
such as ThunderBird and FireFox and even some of the OpenOffice 
products, Open Source products are reaching maturity levels that are 
acceptable to a wider population.  Some of the greatest leaps have been 
"custom installers" for such products. This improves delivery to end 
users who are wanting to try a simpler to use OPEN SOURCE community.

A greater risk than vulnerabilities in MS software is not so much the 
security holes, but the COST of the software.  You have many college 
students that simply can't afford to go w/ MS Office so they use 
OpenOffice.  While not all do, the trend is steadily climing, and w/ the 
avalability getting better and the quaility reaching acceptace from the 
general public, this will help push more OpenSource software into the 
main stream.


-- 
-Francisco




From bruce_bruen at mlc.com.au  Tue Apr  6 17:51:13 2004
From: bruce_bruen at mlc.com.au (bruce_bruen at mlc.com.au)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 08:51:13 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
Message-ID: <OF6CE64ACF.5ACC1622-ONCA256E6E.007BA3BC-CA256E6E.007D573A@mlc.com.au>





Susan,

Open source does not mean free of cost.  Nor does it always mean free of
licence fees.

The strength of the open source movement lies in the ability of the
licencee to alter the software to their own needs.

Apache on Linux servers is the most widely used web server technology in
the world.

Usage of MySQL in corporate applications in Aus/NZ has increased by 60% in
the last year and is expected to grow at a similar but declining rate for
the "forseeable future"  (Source C-Net survey results)

There are versioning problems in open source software - dont let anyone
tell you otherwise.

The TCO numbers game is b***s**t.  There is "statistical evidence" proving
both sides are correct.

Have you read "The Cathedral and the Bazaar".
http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/  or
http://www.firstmonday.org/  Its the short and to the point "sales"
material for open source.

Look at the adoption of open source software by the public sector for some
indication of the stability and future of the open source movement.

B




                                                                                                                                               
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That was very good and very close to my own opinions except I just don't
have the expertise to speak to servers. I think MS will adjust and change
as
necessary -- but can't really predict what that will mean.

My question is this -- if they're all giving it up for free -- how are they
going to make money and stay in business. Support? Is there really going to
be enough support $ to cover it? I wouldn't think so. Anybody using MySQL
and paying for the support? I absolutely hate using MySQL, but I wouldn't
pay for support. There's got to be part of the puzzle that I'm missing.

Susan H.

Is open source a panacea? No way. But then again, neither is MS. It's a
choice that is becoming more and more viable especially as the software
becomes more mature. Will it hurt MS? In the long run, more likely than
not,
but MS will survive. They may be different, but they will still be there.


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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Tue Apr  6 17:59:07 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 08:59:07 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Transfer Database
References: <20040406090248.69D1225E4A0@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <001801c41c2a$c4014c00$48619a89@DDICK>

Hi Guys
Yep Paul was right
The first field had been changed (by me :-(() in testing
and that stuffed everything up. Change the columns headers and away she went <sigh>
Thanks for the replies

DD

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy Lacey" <andy at minstersystems.co.uk>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Transfer Database


> That was my first reaction Paul, then I wondered how that could be when
> doing an import rather than an export. The fields on the dbf must already be
> unique and a max of 10 chars, cos that's all the dbf would allow. Unless the
> dbf is non-standard and was created using something other than the usual
> packages. In which case you may be right. Certainly worth a look Darren.
> Alternatively have you tried the other similar import types to dBase IV,
> like 'dbase III', 'dbase 5.0' and all the Foxpro versions?
> 
> --
> Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> 
> 
> 
> --------- Original Message --------
> From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Transfer Database
> Date: 06/04/04 08:44
> 
> >
> > Darren,
> > try taking a look at the first ten characters of the DBase IV table fields
> you are trying to import (i.e. you may have something like StudentsID1 and
> StudentsID2 if you look at the first ten characters you will only have
> StudentsID) for some reason when trying to Export/Import DBase IV tables it
> only reads the first ten characters.  Make sure the first ten characters in
> your fields are different and then you should be ok.
> > Paul
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Message date : Apr 06 2004, 06:01 AM
> > &gt;From : &quot;Darren DICK&quot;
> > To : &quot;AccessD List&quot;
> > Copy to :
> > Subject : [AccessD] A2K: Transfer Database
> > hello all
> > can anyone tell me why the acLink version of transfer database
> > below works but the import version fails? Along with the error message
> > &quot;Cannot define Field more than once&quot;
> > I have tried every combination I can think of in relation to the dbf file
> name location etc.
> > No joy and the help is useless
> >
> > 'This one works fine
> > DoCmd.TransferDatabase acLink, &quot;dBase IV&quot;, &quot;C:&quot;,
> acTable, &quot;C:SIDS.dbf&quot;, &quot;tblStudents&quot;, False
> > 'This one fails
> > DoCmd.TransferDatabase acImport, &quot;dBase IV&quot;, &quot;C:&quot;,
> acTable, &quot;C:SIDS.dbf&quot;, &quot;tblStudents&quot;, False
> >
> > many thanks
> >
> > Drren
> >
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr  6 18:06:47 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 19:06:47 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <OF6CE64ACF.5ACC1622-ONCA256E6E.007BA3BC-CA256E6E.007D573A@mlc.com.au>
Message-ID: <20040406230707.HUEZ1775.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

 
Open source does not mean free of cost.  Nor does it always mean free of
licence fees.

====Right, I understand that and I don't mean to confuse the issue, but
sharing intellectual property in this way is an odd concept to me. 

Susan H. 



From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Tue Apr  6 18:09:15 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 19:09:15 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <20040406221838.PADI1715.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <s072f020.079@cbc.ca>
Message-ID: <4073005B.31158.5C86F3@localhost>

On 6 Apr 2004 at 18:18, Susan Harkins wrote:

> That was very good and very close to my own opinions except I just
> don't have the expertise to speak to servers. I think MS will adjust

I don't really have the server experience either. I do, however read 
as much as I can.

> and change as necessary -- but can't really predict what that will
> mean. 

I don't think anyone can. And it probably scares the bejebes out of 
MS.

> My question is this -- if they're all giving it up for free -- how are
> they going to make money and stay in business. Support? Is there
> really going to be enough support $ to cover it? I wouldn't think so.

There are a couple of ways that the money is made.

1) They sell it. Red Hat is a perfect example. The sell boxed sets, 
well they used to. They sell server versions of Linux.

2) Selling support. Red Hat again. They sell support along with the 
boxed sets.

3) Donations. Not a get rich quick scheme, I know, but for some 
enough to get by.

Keep in mind that just because the software is open source, doesn't 
mean you can't charge for the product. You can, but you may have to 
make the source code available, depending on the license agreement.

> Anybody using MySQL and paying for the support? I absolutely hate
> using MySQL, but I wouldn't pay for support. There's got to be part of
> the puzzle that I'm missing. 

Why do you hate it? Is it because you are not used to it? Or you 
don't under stand it? Or there is no GUI for it?

There are tons of folks paying for support for MySQL and other open 
source dbs. Folks like Cox Communications, NASA, Sabre Holdings and 
Yahoo! probably do. Have a look at 
http://www.mysql.com/press/release_2004_10.html and 
http://www.mysql.com/feedback/whitepaper-tco.php (registration 
required. Free I think)

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to 
build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe 
producing bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. -
 Mark Mischler.




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr  6 18:21:58 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 19:21:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <4073005B.31158.5C86F3@localhost>
Message-ID: <20040406232218.DXHV1763.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>


1) They sell it. Red Hat is a perfect example. The sell boxed sets, well
they used to. They sell server versions of Linux.

2) Selling support. Red Hat again. They sell support along with the boxed
sets.

3) Donations. Not a get rich quick scheme, I know, but for some enough to
get by.

========Can't imagine this creating huge corporations -- but I'm wrong a
lot. ;) 


> Anybody using MySQL and paying for the support? I absolutely hate 
> using MySQL, but I wouldn't pay for support. There's got to be part of 
> the puzzle that I'm missing.

Why do you hate it? Is it because you are not used to it? Or you don't under
stand it? Or there is no GUI for it?

=========All of the above. The documentation is some of the worst around --
it use to be. MS is rather dry, cryptic, and even sometimes wrong, but you
can understand it. I could barely read through the MySQL documentation. Mind
you it's been a few years so they've probably improved things a lot as
they've grown (I would hope). Just personal experience though -- I don't
like to work so hard. :) 

Susan H. 



From serbach at new.rr.com  Tue Apr  6 18:25:48 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 18:25:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file
Message-ID: <20040406182548.1912343902.serbach@new.rr.com>

Brett,

>> I followed Drew's suggestion a while back, and picked up a copy of Remote
Administrator (www.radmin.com). ?$35 covers the license for 2 machines. ?No
monthly charges. ?No headaches. ?Works for us! <<

I have to admit that I like GoToMyPC for one reason: I can log in from any PC with a browser. I used my 133 MHz 32 MB laptop running Win 95 on Monday at one client's site and I used a Win XP w/s at another client's site today. I had left my host PC in 800 x 600 mode when I left the office. When I fired up GoToMyPC I tried changing the screen resolution while connected...and voila! I switched to 1152 x 864 (my normal resolution). Then I viewed the GoToMyPC window in full screen mode and the only way I could tell I wasn't sitting at my PC was that the color depth is reduced to 8-bit color, so my company logo looked a bit blotchy, and there's the little shade pull thingie hovering at the very top of the screen to remind me where the GoToMyPC menu is.

I particularly like tha drawing feature. Pretty snazzy, I calls it.

Yeah, $15 a month is a bit much...but logging in from ANYWHERE with ANY PC is pretty durn convenient.

Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504
 
"If you can't say anything nice, run for President." - Argus Hamilton



From rjhjr at cox.net  Tue Apr  6 18:31:00 2004
From: rjhjr at cox.net (Bob Hall)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 19:31:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <20040406145847.NMC1781.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <20040406145847.NMC1781.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <20040406233058.GA38785@kongemord.krig.net>

On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 10:58:25AM -0400, Susan Harkins wrote:
> Someone has asked me "What's in the future for Microsoft and the Open Source
> movement? "


Susan,

It's not a question of whether MS offers open source code. It's a question of how they offer it.

Microsoft's Knowledge Base contains gobs and gobs of free, open source code. Lots of independent developers offer free, open source code. Microsoft wouldn't be able to sell as many copies of Access if there weren't so much free, open source VBA code available. Free open source code is part of Microsoft's business model. 

Open source and proprietary code have always existed side by side, usually without conflict. PHP is an open source scripting language; if you use it on Windows, it was probably compiled on a Microsoft compiler. Unix was originally both proprietary and open source; you couldn't legally posses a copy of the source code without buying a license, but the system was distributed as source code. Sun OS was originally based on BSD. When the name changed to Soleris, it became more System V-like. Either way, it was based on open source code. The TCP/IP stack in every Windows system since Win2K contains mostly FreeBSD code. The TCP/IP stack in NT 4 and earlier was notoriously unreliable. MS ended up replacing it with code that was known to work reliably and was available free.

MS won't change its current business model because it makes too much money from the current model. As long as it is primarily a seller of proprietary systems to people who aren't programmers, it has no incentive to offer open source applications. Even if it starts losing market share, it still won't switch unless it goes through an IBM-like transformation and becomes primarily a provider of services. 

I know of only two cases where completely closed code became open code. Netscape didn't have the resources to do the development of a new version of Netscape Navigator, so it created the Mozilla project and based the new Navigator on Mozilla. Borland split off Interbase, which became Firebird. I'm not really sure why they did it, except that perhaps they thought it would be more valuable as a separate company than it had ever been to Borland. 

I wouldn't trust any TCO study distributed by MS. They hire "independent" analysts to do the studies, but the studies are so blatently biased that they are worthless. Basically, the issue is long-term savings versus the short term costs of switching. Since long-term savings have to be discounted over time, and the short-term costs are unpredictable, most businesses aren't going to see an advantage to switching any time soon. 

Adding to Bryan Carbonnell's comments:

You can get Linux distros that will run off a CD. That means that you insert the CD, reboot the computer, and you're running Linux. If you like it, it will install on your computer configured exactly as it is on the CD. It's even easier than a Windows install. All the decisions: desktop, window manager, etc., are made for you. Drivers are installed automatically. If you're a Linux geek, you can still make any changes you want, but the non-geeks don't need to know anything to do the installation. I tried it; it worked.

Linux will never have a standard GUI, because Linux is really only the kernal. Linus Torvalds doesn't do shell or GUI development. All Linux distros that I know of are Linux kernals with the Gnu shell. Everything else is whatever the distro teams want to include. They're never going to agree on a default window manager. On the other hand, a corporate buyer can specify that all installations use a given window manager and desktop.

The immediate threat to MS has been security problems, due to massive numbers of bugs. MS seems to have improved a lot since Gates sent out his famous security e-mail. The three OSs gaining market share right now are Win, Linux, and FreeBSD. These are systems designed to run on cheap Intel chips. The losers are systems designed to run on proprietary chips. Linux and Win are stealing market share from Soleris, not from each other. This may be changing in Europe, where governments are starting to switch to Linux for workstations. The sole reason for switchng seems to be the cost of licenses for thousands of seats. So I would say that Linux is a threat to Windows in the workstation market, not the server market.

Bob Hall


From rjhjr at cox.net  Tue Apr  6 18:36:51 2004
From: rjhjr at cox.net (Bob Hall)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 19:36:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <20040406232218.DXHV1763.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <4073005B.31158.5C86F3@localhost>
	<20040406232218.DXHV1763.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <20040406233650.GB38785@kongemord.krig.net>

On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 07:21:58PM -0400, Susan Harkins wrote:
> =========All of the above. The documentation is some of the worst around --
> it use to be. MS is rather dry, cryptic, and even sometimes wrong, but you
> can understand it. I could barely read through the MySQL documentation. Mind
> you it's been a few years so they've probably improved things a lot as
> they've grown (I would hope). Just personal experience though -- I don't
> like to work so hard. :) 

The documentation at the MySQL web site is intended to be the concise up-to-date reference documentation. Aside from the tutorial, it is intended for people who are already experienced with MySQL and need an answer to a specific question. If you need user-friendly documentation, buy "MySQL" by Paul DuBois. I can't recommend it enough.

Bob Hall


From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr  6 18:41:30 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 19:41:30 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <20040406233650.GB38785@kongemord.krig.net>
Message-ID: <20040406234150.ILUW1775.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

 If you need user-friendly documentation, buy "MySQL" by Paul DuBois. I
can't recommend it enough.

=======Already have it. :) 

Susan H. 



From my.lists at verizon.net  Tue Apr  6 18:41:56 2004
From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 16:41:56 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <20040406232218.DXHV1763.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <20040406232218.DXHV1763.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <40734044.4010008@verizon.net>

Susan Harkins said the following on 4/6/2004 4:21 PM:

>=========All of the above. The documentation is some of the worst around --
>it use to be. MS is rather dry, cryptic, and even sometimes wrong, but you
>can understand it. I could barely read through the MySQL documentation. Mind
>you it's been a few years so they've probably improved things a lot as
>they've grown (I would hope). Just personal experience though -- I don't
>like to work so hard. :) 
>  
>
IF... it's been a few years since you've used/played w/ the 
documentation how can you declare that "

The documentation is some of the worst around".  MySql has had a close connectiong w/ Linux and thus their documentation has many examples w/ *nix syntax.  And if a documentation is wrong, how is it better? :)

I just visited MySql.com and found their available manual.  skimming through a chapter it all reads straight forward.  However I will say this... they are distributing it in PDF and HTML, and the PDF is no BOL :), however If you just do a search on their site for keywords on things you need say.. "CREATE TABLE" then you get all the proper syntax in a very much BOL type fashion except it's ONLINE not offline, and by skimming their documentation page it looks like you can d/l that as well, tho I don't know if searching is available locally.



-- 
-Francisco




From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Tue Apr  6 18:50:59 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 09:50:59 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Another Trasnfer Database Q
Message-ID: <009501c41c32$030331a0$48619a89@DDICK>

Hello all
When I try to import or link to a DBF or XLS file in the root directory all is well.
When I move the dbf or XLS file to ANY dorectory/folder the import or link fails.
Access spits up a long error message with Error Number
Saying that the path is invalid. That I should go and check that it exists etc.
Of course it exists I just created it for testing as well as using pre-existing directories.
The Docmd.Transfer works - why would it fail when I use a folde?
Yes I have tried quotes around the path and xls specs

Any taker?

Many thanks in advance

Darren



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr  6 18:54:48 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 19:54:48 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <40734044.4010008@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <20040406235508.ISFT1775.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>


The documentation is some of the worst around".  MySql has had a close
connectiong w/ Linux and thus their documentation has many examples w/ *nix
syntax.  And if a documentation is wrong, how is it better? :)

========If you go to a bad dentist, do you go back? Does someone blame you
for not going back a few years later, "Geez... Wow, he's better now, you
should give him another try?" No way. :) If MySQL lost me just on the lack
of a decent interface and sloppy documentation, I'm betting I'm not the only
one. Granted, I am lazier than most of you and will dump something faster
than most here -- but you guys are unique -- you guys LIKE pain. :) If I'm
not working, I'm not making money, so I don't spend a lot of time with stuff
that makes working too hard. 

Lexie came home from Walmart this afternoon with her Pa Pa -- they had a new
milkshake maker. It took scissors, grunt power, and a swig of boubon from
the freezer just to get the thing out of the package. Then, I had words with
the Pa Pa about disappearing once the package came in the door. I feel that
way about MySQL. :) That's exactly my problem with MySQL -- well, a while
ago. 

I just visited MySql.com and found their available manual.  skimming through
a chapter it all reads straight forward.  However I will say this... they
are distributing it in PDF and HTML, and the PDF is no BOL :), however If
you just do a search on their site for keywords on things you need say..
"CREATE TABLE" then you get all the proper syntax in a very much BOL type
fashion except it's ONLINE not offline, and by skimming their documentation
page it looks like you can d/l that as well, tho I don't know if searching
is available locally.

========My main complaint was organization. Even with the search
capabilities (OK, everyone already knows I'm search challenged), I found it
difficult to find what I was looking for. Invariably it would involve
reading much more than I really should've had to read. Now, you can blame me
and call me names if you like, but that's not good documentation. But then,
I don't like MS either. I can find something on microsoft's site with google
faster than I can with a Microsoft search. Go figure. ;) But then, that's
why I have a job. Some day I'm going to plug Donna's brain into my computer
-- then I'll be able to find everything and you'll all be sorry! ;) 

Susan H. 



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Apr  6 19:25:12 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 17:25:12 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Another Trasnfer Database Q
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312715@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Are you deleting the link before you try to relink?  I would expect it
to fail if you moved the file *anywhere*.  That's just the way Access
links work.  Are you using the entire path and filename in the filename
argument?

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Darren DICK [mailto:d.dick at uws.edu.au] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 3:51 PM
To: AccessD List
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Another Trasnfer Database Q


Hello all
When I try to import or link to a DBF or XLS file in the root directory
all is well. When I move the dbf or XLS file to ANY dorectory/folder the
import or link fails. Access spits up a long error message with Error
Number Saying that the path is invalid. That I should go and check that
it exists etc. Of course it exists I just created it for testing as well
as using pre-existing directories. The Docmd.Transfer works - why would
it fail when I use a folde? Yes I have tried quotes around the path and
xls specs

Any taker?

Many thanks in advance

Darren

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Apr  6 20:19:55 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 21:19:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <4073B26F.4145.132DAB@localhost>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPGEGBHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Holy smoke batman.  What a read!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 5:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: open source


On 6 Apr 2004 at 10:58, Susan Harkins wrote:

> Someone has asked me "What's in the future for Microsoft and the Open
Source
> movement? "
>
> It's such a huge topic I couldn't really answer -- it's going to take me a
> few days to formulate a response. It is a tad off topic for a strictly
> Access list -- and I don't want any MS bashing, just because that would be
> even more off topic -- but anyone want to make a comment on the subject?
I'd
> love to hear them -- my initial response to the guy was "Resistance is
> futile" but that's only really funny if you're saying it from the MS
> perspective. ;)
>

I think that Peruvian Congressmen Edgar Villanueva Nu?ez summed up
the arguments fairly well:

http://www.opensource.org/docs/peru_and_ms.php
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Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System
Support.



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From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Tue Apr  6 21:21:11 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 22:21:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <20040406230707.HUEZ1775.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <OF6CE64ACF.5ACC1622-ONCA256E6E.007BA3BC-CA256E6E.007D573A@mlc.com.au>
Message-ID: <40732D57.2466.11B1B7@localhost>

On 6 Apr 2004 at 19:06, Susan Harkins wrote:

> ====Right, I understand that and I don't mean to confuse the issue,
> but sharing intellectual property in this way is an odd concept to me.

What part is odd? 

We freely share our intelectual property here everyday.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
An unkind remark is like a killing frost. No matter how much it warms 
up later, the damage remains.




From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Tue Apr  6 21:21:10 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 22:21:10 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <40733489.2040700@verizon.net>
References: <s072f020.079@cbc.ca>
Message-ID: <40732D56.16589.11B167@localhost>

On 6 Apr 2004 at 15:51, Francisco H Tapia wrote:

> which the various distros have improved their desktop products.  I
> also must concur that a standardized GUI would be the killer blow that
> would/will ultimately drive hords of users away from Microsoft.  I

I actually don't think that a standard GUI alone will push people 
away from MS. It *has* to be packaged with more user friendlyness. 
I'm no dummy, but there are days that make me go "Why the <insert 
expletive> did I ever think looking at Linux was a good idea" Just 
because of the way Slackware based distros are different from RedHat 
based distros which are different from Debian based distros.

> base my opinion off such distros like RedHat or even the newest one
> I've seen (Knopixx).  Wich is an OS bootable completely off the CD. 

Knoppix is COOL!!!!

> With High end products such as ThunderBird and FireFox and even some
> of the OpenOffice products, Open Source products are reaching maturity
> levels that are acceptable to a wider population.  Some of the

Maturity of the apps is what will make Open Source software more 
viable in the long run. If it can compete feature for feature with 
the MS version, or at least the features needed, why drop the cash on 
the MS version?

> A greater risk than vulnerabilities in MS software is not so much the
> security holes, but the COST of the software.  You have many college
> students that simply can't afford to go w/ MS Office so they use
> OpenOffice.  While not all do, the trend is steadily climing, and w/
> the avalability getting better and the quaility reaching acceptace
> from the general public, this will help push more OpenSource software
> into the main stream.

I think that cost will play a part, I don't think that it will play a 
large part overall. Now, I'm talking about corporate acceptance and 
not home use. 

For the home user, I think that it will start to play a part in the 
decision making, more than it would a corporate IT department.

And that is one of the imortant distinctions that needs to be made. 
Home users will look at the out of pocket costs. Corporate users will 
look at the overall costs and the availability of Enterprise level 
software.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a 
horrible warning.




From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Tue Apr  6 21:31:21 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 22:31:21 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <20040406232218.DXHV1763.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <4073005B.31158.5C86F3@localhost>
Message-ID: <40732FB9.25964.1B0413@localhost>

On 6 Apr 2004 at 19:21, Susan Harkins wrote:

> ========Can't imagine this creating huge corporations -- but I'm wrong
> a lot. ;) 

Red Hat is making money. According to their website they have $328 
million in the bank.

Suse was just bought for $210 million, and they are the #2 Linux 
distro.

Not on the same level as MS, but not bad for companies that are less 
than 10 years old.



> > Why do you hate it? Is it because you are not used to it? Or you don't
> > under stand it? Or there is no GUI for it?

> =========All of the above. The documentation is some of the worst
> around -- it use to be. MS is rather dry, cryptic, and even sometimes
> wrong, but you can understand it. I could barely read through the
> MySQL documentation. Mind you it's been a few years so they've
> probably improved things a lot as they've grown (I would hope). Just
> personal experience though -- I don't like to work so hard. :) 

I actually don't find their docs that bad. I actually use them as a 
SQL reference. How to structure the specific parts of a SQL 
statement.

As for the GUI, they have recently released a GUI that is better than 
anything that has come before it for working with MySQL. Plus you can 
always work with it using Access :)

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
I don't approve of political jokes. I've seen too many of them get 
elected.




From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Tue Apr  6 21:36:26 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 22:36:26 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <s072f020.079@cbc.ca>
Message-ID: <407330EA.19233.1FAA39@localhost>

On 6 Apr 2004 at 17:46, Bryan Carbonnell wrote:

> Will MS need to make their stuff Open Source to survive? I don't think
> so. Will MS Open Source their software anyway? I really doubt it.
> Maybe bits and pieces, but the whole thing, No way. Will MS
> incorporate Open Source into their software? As far as I understand,

No sooner do I say they probably won't, I find out they went ahead 
and did <sigh>

http://news.com.com/2100-7344_3-5185549.html?tag=nefd.top

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
Ability is what you're capable of doing.
Motivation determines what you do.
Attitude determines how well you do it.




From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Tue Apr  6 21:46:34 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 22:46:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <20040406233058.GA38785@kongemord.krig.net>
References: <20040406145847.NMC1781.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <4073334A.9454.28F0F8@localhost>

On 6 Apr 2004 at 19:31, Bob Hall wrote:

> Linux will never have a standard GUI, because Linux is really only the
> kernal. Linus Torvalds doesn't do shell or GUI development. All Linux

True enough. I guess I should have said that the various Linux 
Distros need to standardise on a desktop. KDE or Gnome.

> Everything else is whatever the distro teams want to include. They're
> never going to agree on a default window manager. On the other hand, a

>From what I understand the windows manager doesn't need to be 
standardised, ithe the desktop environment.

There is the XServer, then there is the windows manager and then 
finally the desktop environment.

> The immediate threat to MS has been security problems, due to massive
> numbers of bugs. MS seems to have improved a lot since Gates sent out
> his famous security e-mail. The three OSs gaining market share right

I actually don't think that security is high on most peoples list. 
Otherwise why is my Win2K desktop at work only approved to be at SP1? 
I have said screw it and installed SP4 myself.

> seats. So I would say that Linux is a threat to Windows in the
> workstation market, not the server market.

The problem is that Linux is not making the inroads on the desktop, 
but in the server room right now.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
I can only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow 
is not looking good either.




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr  6 21:52:19 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 22:52:19 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <40732D57.2466.11B1B7@localhost>
Message-ID: <20040407025239.GWBY1763.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Do you make your living from this list? If all of your clients or your boss
suddenly said "Keep it up, you're doing great, but btw, you're working for
free now, aren't you?" Or, how about, "And show this new guy everything you
know so we don't need you anymore." -- would that be OK?

Susan H. 

On 6 Apr 2004 at 19:06, Susan Harkins wrote:

> ====Right, I understand that and I don't mean to confuse the issue, 
> but sharing intellectual property in this way is an odd concept to me.

What part is odd? 

We freely share our intelectual property here everyday.



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr  6 21:53:50 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 22:53:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <40732FB9.25964.1B0413@localhost>
Message-ID: <20040407025410.GWLR1763.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Red Hat is making money. According to their website they have $328 million
in the bank.

Suse was just bought for $210 million, and they are the #2 Linux distro.

Not on the same level as MS, but not bad for companies that are less than 10
years old.

================No, certainly -- I'd have no trouble taking that check to
the bank. :) 

Susan H. 



From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Tue Apr  6 21:58:45 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 12:58:45 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Another Trasnfer Database Q
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312715@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <00d601c41c4c$3e2dd5e0$48619a89@DDICK>

Hi Charlotte
Yes I am deleting the link before I start using Docmd.DeleteObject blah blah

Re the file being moved any where, I can move the file anywhere and 'redo' the 
link using the new path, so long as the path is in the root directory (C:\)
IE I can change the name of the file from SIDS.dbf to S_ids.dbf or whatever, but it must 
stay in the root directory. If I move it to "any" directory other than the root directory (C:\) it fails
eg C:\ABC\SIDS.dbf <sigh> I dunno


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:25 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: Another Trasnfer Database Q


> Are you deleting the link before you try to relink?  I would expect it
> to fail if you moved the file *anywhere*.  That's just the way Access
> links work.  Are you using the entire path and filename in the filename
> argument?
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darren DICK [mailto:d.dick at uws.edu.au] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 3:51 PM
> To: AccessD List
> Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Another Trasnfer Database Q
> 
> 
> Hello all
> When I try to import or link to a DBF or XLS file in the root directory
> all is well. When I move the dbf or XLS file to ANY dorectory/folder the
> import or link fails. Access spits up a long error message with Error
> Number Saying that the path is invalid. That I should go and check that
> it exists etc. Of course it exists I just created it for testing as well
> as using pre-existing directories. The Docmd.Transfer works - why would
> it fail when I use a folde? Yes I have tried quotes around the path and
> xls specs
> 
> Any taker?
> 
> Many thanks in advance
> 
> Darren
> 
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From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Tue Apr  6 22:03:29 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 23:03:29 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <20040407025239.GWBY1763.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <40732D57.2466.11B1B7@localhost>
Message-ID: <40733741.18413.386F7E@localhost>

On 6 Apr 2004 at 22:52, Susan Harkins wrote:

> Do you make your living from this list? If all of your clients or your
> boss suddenly said "Keep it up, you're doing great, but btw, you're
> working for free now, aren't you?" Or, how about, "And show this new
> guy everything you know so we don't need you anymore." -- would that
> be OK?

Yea, but the thing is, open source doesn't HAVE to be free, as in no 
cost, but free as in source code availability.

I think that is part that is the hard part to understand, or at least 
grasp.

Free doesn't necissicarily mean no cost.

Here is a page that may help sort things out.
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html

If not, then there are a ton of links here:
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
When everything is coming your way......you're in the wrong lane.




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr  6 22:13:06 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 23:13:06 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <40733741.18413.386F7E@localhost>
Message-ID: <20040407031326.HBWR1763.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>


Yea, but the thing is, open source doesn't HAVE to be free, as in no cost,
but free as in source code availability.

I think that is part that is the hard part to understand, or at least grasp.

Free doesn't necissicarily mean no cost.

=============Perhaps I do make too much of it -- you could be right. It's
hard to apply it to my own work -- it doesn't really relate. 

I'll repeat myself -- sometimes that helps. :) I pay the hair guy $75 to
color my gray hair. I pay it because he's good -- hair looks natural and
healthy. He doesn't sell me the coloring and give me instructions so I can
do it myself. Now, I realize that doesn't really relate in the same way, but
it's the best I can come up with. :) 

Susan H. 



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Apr  7 00:03:23 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 01:03:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] How do I
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPEEGDHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Having a bit of a problem tonight.

Given #5/11/2000 3:20:00 PM#

How do I get rid of the date portion and return just the time?

I tried subtracting the clng(ThatDate) from the whole... sometimes worked
but sometimes gave me bad time (but never any date portion)

I tried dateadd("d",-clng(ThatDate),ThatDate)... That always gives me the
correct time but 12/29/1899 as the date portion if the time is in the PM.

I have a bunch of times that include the date and I need to strip the date
off the time.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Apr  7 00:06:09 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 15:06:09 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <20040407025239.GWBY1763.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <40732D57.2466.11B1B7@localhost>
Message-ID: <407418E1.3626.1A35D4C@localhost>

On 6 Apr 2004 at 22:52, Susan Harkins wrote:

> If all of your clients or your boss
> suddenly said "Keep it up, you're doing great, but btw, you're working for
> free now, aren't you?" 

No.  I charge for my time in developing/supporting software. They can 
find someone cheaper than me, but they won't find anyone better than 
me at what I do and they know it. So they are quite happy to pay for 
my services although there is nothing "secret" about what I am doing. 
 
> Or, how about, "And show this new guy everything you
> know so we don't need you anymore." -- would that be OK?
> 

Yep, not a problem. It took me 20 years to learn. In 20 years time, 
I'll be more than ready to hand over the reins to him. In the 
meantime, my clients pay me for that experience.

I also make sure that my clients have the source for anything I 
develop.  If anything happens to me, they can get someone else to 
maintain/continue to develop it.   Until that something happens, they 
keep me maintaining/developing it because of the skills I have.

If I went the MS way, what would my clients do if I was hit by a bus 
tomorrow?

 
-- 
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http://www.lexacorp.com.pg
Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System 
Support.





From michael.mattys at adelphia.net  Wed Apr  7 00:13:13 2004
From: michael.mattys at adelphia.net (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 01:13:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] How do I
References: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPEEGDHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <009001c41c5f$07e62290$6401a8c0@default>

Hi John,

If it weren't for those # #'s, I'd say
Format("5/11/2000 3:20:00 PM","Long Time")

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Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "AccessD" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:03 AM
Subject: [AccessD] How do I


> Having a bit of a problem tonight.
>
> Given #5/11/2000 3:20:00 PM#
>
> How do I get rid of the date portion and return just the time?
>
> I tried subtracting the clng(ThatDate) from the whole... sometimes worked
> but sometimes gave me bad time (but never any date portion)
>
> I tried dateadd("d",-clng(ThatDate),ThatDate)... That always gives me the
> correct time but 12/29/1899 as the date portion if the time is in the PM.
>
> I have a bunch of times that include the date and I need to strip the date
> off the time.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>
> -- 
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> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Apr  7 00:21:19 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 15:21:19 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] How do I
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPEEGDHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <40741C6F.7060.1B13EF3@localhost>

On 7 Apr 2004 at 1:03, John W. Colby wrote:

> Having a bit of a problem tonight.
> 
> Given #5/11/2000 3:20:00 PM#
> 
> How do I get rid of the date portion and return just the time?
> 

CLng rounds rather than truncates so 
myDate - CLng(mydate) will return a negative value if it is after 
midday.

Use Int() instead

myDate - Int(myDate)
retuns the fractional part (ie the time)





 
-- 
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http://www.lexacorp.com.pg
Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support.





From jmhla at earthlink.net  Wed Apr  7 01:25:46 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 23:25:46 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] How do I
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPEEGDHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <001501c41c69$2cf3de60$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

John,

Two thoughts.

1. Can you count back from the right until you find the blank and
isolate the time?

2. Can you convert the current format to a decimal number 12345.12345
and then convert the decimal to time.

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 10:03 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] How do I

Having a bit of a problem tonight.

Given c

How do I get rid of the date portion and return just the time?

I tried subtracting the clng(ThatDate) from the whole... sometimes
worked
but sometimes gave me bad time (but never any date portion)

I tried dateadd("d",-clng(ThatDate),ThatDate)... That always gives me
the
correct time but 12/29/1899 as the date portion if the time is in the
PM.

I have a bunch of times that include the date and I need to strip the
date
off the time.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Wed Apr  7 02:13:43 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 08:13:43 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Another Trasnfer Database Q
In-Reply-To: <00d601c41c4c$3e2dd5e0$48619a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <001001c41c6f$dc3e6240$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Darren
What's the code? Have you tried specifying the folder in the 3rd parameter,
then just the dbf name in the 5th?

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren DICK
> Sent: 07 April 2004 03:59
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Another Trasnfer Database Q
> 
> 
> Hi Charlotte
> Yes I am deleting the link before I start using 
> Docmd.DeleteObject blah blah
> 
> Re the file being moved any where, I can move the file 
> anywhere and 'redo' the 
> link using the new path, so long as the path is in the root 
> directory (C:\) IE I can change the name of the file from 
> SIDS.dbf to S_ids.dbf or whatever, but it must 
> stay in the root directory. If I move it to "any" directory 
> other than the root directory (C:\) it fails eg 
> C:\ABC\SIDS.dbf <sigh> I dunno
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:25 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: Another Trasnfer Database Q
> 
> 
> > Are you deleting the link before you try to relink?  I 
> would expect it 
> > to fail if you moved the file *anywhere*.  That's just the 
> way Access 
> > links work.  Are you using the entire path and filename in the 
> > filename argument?
> > 
> > Charlotte Foust
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Darren DICK [mailto:d.dick at uws.edu.au]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 3:51 PM
> > To: AccessD List
> > Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Another Trasnfer Database Q
> > 
> > 
> > Hello all
> > When I try to import or link to a DBF or XLS file in the root 
> > directory all is well. When I move the dbf or XLS file to ANY 
> > dorectory/folder the import or link fails. Access spits up a long 
> > error message with Error Number Saying that the path is 
> invalid. That 
> > I should go and check that it exists etc. Of course it 
> exists I just 
> > created it for testing as well as using pre-existing 
> directories. The 
> > Docmd.Transfer works - why would it fail when I use a folde? Yes I 
> > have tried quotes around the path and xls specs
> > 
> > Any taker?
> > 
> > Many thanks in advance
> > 
> > Darren
> > 
> > --
> > _______________________________________________
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Apr  7 06:18:28 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 07:18:28 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] How do I
In-Reply-To: <40741C6F.7060.1B13EF3@localhost>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPEEGEHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Interesting.  I tried that in a query and got #error for values.  I'll look
at it again.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:21 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] How do I


On 7 Apr 2004 at 1:03, John W. Colby wrote:

> Having a bit of a problem tonight.
>
> Given #5/11/2000 3:20:00 PM#
>
> How do I get rid of the date portion and return just the time?
>

CLng rounds rather than truncates so
myDate - CLng(mydate) will return a negative value if it is after
midday.

Use Int() instead

myDate - Int(myDate)
retuns the fractional part (ie the time)






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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Apr  7 06:35:43 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 07:35:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <407418E1.3626.1A35D4C@localhost>
Message-ID: <20040407113603.ZBNV1763.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>


If I went the MS way, what would my clients do if I was hit by a bus
tomorrow?

============That's a good point, but to me, it's kind of like expecting a
chef to give you his recipe. Of course, if the market eventually forces it,
that's OK with me. I'm not against it.

Susan H. 



From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca  Wed Apr  7 06:08:28 2004
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 07:08:28 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
Message-ID: <s073b2ab.082@cbc.ca>

I'm not sure a service can be related to a product, but lt's try :)

The hair dresser charges you $75 to do your hair colouring. He aslo
goes to the local Seniors home and colours the hair of the elderly
ladies there for free because they can't get around as easily as you
can.

He is volunteering his time to do it. Why does he do it when he can use
that time to make more money? He's a nice guy, it was the home that home
that took care of his elderly parents, he want's to look good and using
it as an advertising ploy, it's the right thing to do? Any of these, all
or these none of these? Who knows, but he does it anyway.

Now apply this to software. Why do companies, and people, make their
software open source? They have a philosophical belief that it should be
available, it will help a certain population/sector, it showcases their
other products, it showcases their talents. Any of these, all of these,
none of these? Who knows but it happens.

Why did Lembit donate code to the BEU? Why did Andy and Reuben start to
work on it? Why did I help in the end? I can't speak for the others, but
I did it because I believe that it may help DBA become more visible by
producing a world class product, which will make this be *THE* place to
be, not that it isn't that already :). I also like pushing the limits of
my knowledge and talents, and the BEU certainly did that :) Plus it is
also a tool that can, and has helped, other developers, and I like
helping folks.

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that for every dozen different
open source applications, there are 2 dozen different reasons why the
author(s) decided to make it open source. None are right, none are
worng, they just are.

I don't think that this really captures the point I was going after,
but it's the best I can do to explain it at 6:30 in the morning :)

Bryan Carbonnell
bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca


>>> ssharkins at bellsouth.net 04/06/04 11:13PM >>>

Yea, but the thing is, open source doesn't HAVE to be free, as in no
cost,
but free as in source code availability.

I think that is part that is the hard part to understand, or at least
grasp.

Free doesn't necissicarily mean no cost.

=============Perhaps I do make too much of it -- you could be right.
It's
hard to apply it to my own work -- it doesn't really relate. 

I'll repeat myself -- sometimes that helps. :) I pay the hair guy $75
to
color my gray hair. I pay it because he's good -- hair looks natural
and
healthy. He doesn't sell me the coloring and give me instructions so I
can
do it myself. Now, I realize that doesn't really relate in the same
way, but
it's the best I can come up with. :) 

Susan H. 

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Apr  7 07:36:28 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 08:36:28 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <s073b2ab.082@cbc.ca>
Message-ID: <20040407123648.ROOI1775.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that for every dozen different open
source applications, there are 2 dozen different reasons why the
author(s) decided to make it open source. None are right, none are worng,
they just are.

I don't think that this really captures the point I was going after, but
it's the best I can do to explain it at 6:30 in the morning :)

==========The fact that you're up and able to type is impressive enough. :)
I understand open source within the context you're speaking -- I don't
understand it within a major corporation like MS. But what you're talking
about is really just a natural evolution of freeware/shareware... You guys
offer your stuff because you want to, not because you're forced to. 

As for the hair anology, you're comparing open source to charity, community
good will, or philantropy. Developers have been giving it away for free
since ... since always -- that's nothing new. Competitors and even
governments forcing open source from other major producers isn't the same
thing. I'm talking about the market forces, and government manipulation, at
play right now that are forcing MS to take it all off. :) To me, producers
and governments complaining about MS not going open code is a red herring --
and it's difficult to even apply the same logic to other industries. Even
the recipe analogy doesn't really work -- but most intellectual property is
protected to a degree. The question I guess -- after talking this through is
does code NEED to be protected. I mean, realistically, what would I do with
it even if I had it? :) I guess what concerns me the most about exposing
code is theft -- not so much of the actual code but of the ideas in the
code, but there again, can that really be protected anyway? I don't know.
I've developed a really good chocolate chip cookie recipe using Splenda and
a good butter substitute. If a company took that recipe and turned it into a
best seller and didn't credit or pay me for it, I'd be pis*ed. Hope that
analogy finally makes my position clearer. 

I will readily admit that I simply do not have the expertise to adequately
do it justice, and if it's going to happen, it will. But, as I'm fond of
saying, I don't get it. :) However, as long as whatever happens comes about
through pure market forces, I'm OK with it -- have to be, that's the way it
works. :) 

Susan H. 



From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Apr  7 08:02:20 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 23:02:20 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Another Transfer Database Q SOLVED Answer included
References: <001001c41c6f$dc3e6240$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>
Message-ID: <02e301c41ca0$91018ec0$42669a89@DDICK>

Hi Andy et al
I figured it out phew...
Here is the code if anyone is interested
It allows for a single path to be stored  then you can and import or link to

My.txtControlThatHoldsThePath may have the following as its value
EG C:\My Documents\My Folder\Inane Name\XYZ.dbf

First Create a new module and paste this into it

'determine the last backslash in a path then return file name from that path
'Code by Seth Galitzer
Public Function basParseFileName(strPath As String) As String
     Dim intI As Integer         ' Current starting position
     Dim intL As Integer         ' Last starting position

     intI = InStr(strPath, "\")  ' Initialize the starting position
     While intI > 0              ' Repeat until no more "\" chars
         intL = intI             ' Save the last starting position
         intI = InStr(intI + 1, strPath, "\")    ' Get the next starting position
     Wend

     basParseFileName = Mid(strPath, intL + 1)   ' Chop off the filename
End Function

The in the button you want to perform the import or link  with
Private Sub SomeButton_Click()

Dim intX As Integer
intX = Len(basParseFileName(Me.txtControlThatHoldsThePath))

 DoCmd.TransferDatabase acImport, "dBase IV", Mid(Me.txtControlThatHoldsThePath, 1, Len(Me.txtControlThatHoldsThePath) - intX - 1),
acTable, basParseFileName(Me.txtControlThatHoldsThePath), "tblStudents", False

'The trick is in the "-1" just after the intX parameter in the Transfer Database syntax
'The Transfer database monster wants to see the full folder path in the 3rd parameter minus the actual filename
'and wants to see the file name only in the 5th parameter. So far no problem
'BUT!!! - the trick is Access doesn't wanna see the last backslash either before the file name: Go figure???
'So assume you have a folder and file name like C:\My Documents\My Folder\Inane Name\XYZ.dbf
'Access is working with C:\My Documents\My Folder\Inane NameXYZ.dbf. 'Note the missing last backslash
'Access obviously compensates for it somewhere internally

end sub

Hope this helps someone


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy Lacey" <andy at minstersystems.co.uk>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 5:13 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: Another Trasnfer Database Q


> Darren
> What's the code? Have you tried specifying the folder in the 3rd parameter,
> then just the dbf name in the 5th?
>
> -- Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren DICK
> > Sent: 07 April 2004 03:59
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Another Trasnfer Database Q
> >
> >
> > Hi Charlotte
> > Yes I am deleting the link before I start using
> > Docmd.DeleteObject blah blah
> >
> > Re the file being moved any where, I can move the file
> > anywhere and 'redo' the
> > link using the new path, so long as the path is in the root
> > directory (C:\) IE I can change the name of the file from
> > SIDS.dbf to S_ids.dbf or whatever, but it must
> > stay in the root directory. If I move it to "any" directory
> > other than the root directory (C:\) it fails eg
> > C:\ABC\SIDS.dbf <sigh> I dunno
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:25 AM
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: Another Trasnfer Database Q
> >
> >
> > > Are you deleting the link before you try to relink?  I
> > would expect it
> > > to fail if you moved the file *anywhere*.  That's just the
> > way Access
> > > links work.  Are you using the entire path and filename in the
> > > filename argument?
> > >
> > > Charlotte Foust
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Darren DICK [mailto:d.dick at uws.edu.au]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 3:51 PM
> > > To: AccessD List
> > > Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Another Trasnfer Database Q
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello all
> > > When I try to import or link to a DBF or XLS file in the root
> > > directory all is well. When I move the dbf or XLS file to ANY
> > > dorectory/folder the import or link fails. Access spits up a long
> > > error message with Error Number Saying that the path is
> > invalid. That
> > > I should go and check that it exists etc. Of course it
> > exists I just
> > > created it for testing as well as using pre-existing
> > directories. The
> > > Docmd.Transfer works - why would it fail when I use a folde? Yes I
> > > have tried quotes around the path and xls specs
> > >
> > > Any taker?
> > >
> > > Many thanks in advance
> > >
> > > Darren
> > >
> > > --
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > AccessD mailing list
> > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > -- 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > AccessD mailing list
> > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > -- 
> > _______________________________________________
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd
> > Website:
> > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> >
>
> -- 
> _______________________________________________
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> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com



From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Wed Apr  7 08:05:14 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 09:05:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] How do I
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPEEGDHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKMEAPIPAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

John,

  In terms of the field value, you can't.  Date/Time fields are doubles with
the date/time stored as:

  Date.Time

  Any value to the left of the decimal represents a date and that includes
0, which hands you back the base date of 12/29/1899.

  If you want time alone, you need to store the value in a decimal field or
use a scaled integer and use Time functions to translate it to a time as
needed.

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:03 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] How do I


Having a bit of a problem tonight.

Given #5/11/2000 3:20:00 PM#

How do I get rid of the date portion and return just the time?

I tried subtracting the clng(ThatDate) from the whole... sometimes worked
but sometimes gave me bad time (but never any date portion)

I tried dateadd("d",-clng(ThatDate),ThatDate)... That always gives me the
correct time but 12/29/1899 as the date portion if the time is in the PM.

I have a bunch of times that include the date and I need to strip the date
off the time.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Wed Apr  7 08:06:56 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 09:06:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] How do I
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPEEGDHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKAEBAIPAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

John,

  One thing you can do is continue to use the date/time field, but just
ignore the date (set them all to 0) and use Format$() for displaying the
time only.

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:03 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] How do I


Having a bit of a problem tonight.

Given #5/11/2000 3:20:00 PM#

How do I get rid of the date portion and return just the time?

I tried subtracting the clng(ThatDate) from the whole... sometimes worked
but sometimes gave me bad time (but never any date portion)

I tried dateadd("d",-clng(ThatDate),ThatDate)... That always gives me the
correct time but 12/29/1899 as the date portion if the time is in the PM.

I have a bunch of times that include the date and I need to strip the date
off the time.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


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From pnl1 at psu.edu  Wed Apr  7 08:22:07 2004
From: pnl1 at psu.edu (Paul Liadis)
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 09:22:07 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Query Truncating Data
In-Reply-To: <20040407025410.GWLR1763.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANO
 NE>
References: <40732FB9.25964.1B0413@localhost>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040407091847.03e259d0@mail.psu.edu>

Hello,
I am having a problem with a query in which my data is being truncated to 
255 characters.  My query simply selects from a table (linked from SQL 
Server), but doesn't return all the data in one of the columns (defined as 
memo in Access).  The data is being truncated even though it exists in the 
table.  Has anyone experienced this?

Thanks,

===============================================
Paul Liadis
Senior Applications Programmer/Analyst
University Budget Office
Pennsylvania State University



From ranthony at wrsystems.com  Wed Apr  7 08:33:13 2004
From: ranthony at wrsystems.com (ranthony at wrsystems.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 09:33:13 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Query Truncating Data
Message-ID: <5F21A4E8B8DD734992EF9E70AC9D3064128B5A@mail2.wrsystems.com>

See M$ KB 170218.

A workaround I used in an older program is as follows (this is A97):

'The following lines of code is a workaround provided by MS due to W97
inability to assign the value of a variable containing
    'more than 255 characters.  This is obviously a non-starter, as the
fields indicated are memo fields in Access.
    'The formfield is populated with asterisks as a placemark, the document
then has to be unprotected, then the contents are
    'dumped into the formfield.  After that, the asteriks are deleted, and
the protection for the document is reinstated.
    'The if statement is so this processing effort won't be invoked unless
the field is not null and contains more than 255 characters.
    '
    
    If Not IsNull(Forms!frmstrinput!txtBrief) And
Len(Forms!frmstrinput!txtBrief) > 255 Then
        'set Description form field to a unique string.
        WordObj.Documents(1).FormFields("Description").Result = "****"
        If WordObj.Documents(1).ProtectionType <> wdNoProtection Then
            WordObj.Documents(1).Unprotect Password:="bob"
        End If
        WordObj.Selection.Goto what:=wdGoToBookmark, Name:="Description"
        WordObj.Selection.Collapse
        WordObj.Selection.MoveRight wdCharacter, 1
        WordObj.Selection.TypeText (Forms!frmstrinput!txtBrief)
        WordObj.Selection.Goto wdGoToBookmark, , , "description"
        'Remove unique characters from Description form field
        With WordObj.Selection.Find
            .Execute findtext:="*", replacewith:="", replace:=wdReplaceAll
        End With
        WordObj.Documents(1).Protect Password:="bob", noreset:=True,
Type:=wdAllowOnlyFormFields
    
    Else
        WordObj.Documents(1).FormFields("Description").Result =
IIf(IsNull(Forms!frmstrinput!txtBrief), "", (Forms!frmstrinput!txtBrief))
    End If

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Liadis [mailto:pnl1 at psu.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 9:22 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Query Truncating Data

Hello,
I am having a problem with a query in which my data is being truncated to 
255 characters.  My query simply selects from a table (linked from SQL 
Server), but doesn't return all the data in one of the columns (defined as 
memo in Access).  The data is being truncated even though it exists in the 
table.  Has anyone experienced this?

Thanks,

===============================================
Paul Liadis
Senior Applications Programmer/Analyst
University Budget Office
Pennsylvania State University

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Apr  7 08:56:04 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (martyconnelly at shaw.ca)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 09:56:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Phone number
Message-ID: <200404071356.i37Du0B06129@databaseadvisors.com>


Please notice the attached phone number.


+++ X-Attachment-Type: document
+++ X-Attachment-Status: no virus found
+++ Powered by the new F-Secure OnlineAntiVirus
+++ Visit us: www.f-secure.com



From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Wed Apr  7 09:15:46 2004
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 09:15:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Emails Problems
Message-ID: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D55C@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>

Has anyone been receiving strange emails with attachments? I have been
getting emails for the past 2 days with txt attachments. I just received one
that said it was from AccessD.

Virginia


From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Wed Apr  7 09:23:19 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 10:23:19 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Emails Problems
Message-ID: <20040407142319.ULSP19852.tomts15-srv.bellnexxia.net@mxmta.bellnexxia.net>

> From: "Hollis,Virginia" <HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com>

> Has anyone been receiving strange emails with attachments? I have been
> getting emails for the past 2 days with txt attachments. I just received one
> that said it was from AccessD.

The one that just came to the list "from" Marty Connelly appears to have started out life as a virus, but the list software stripped out the payload, so no worries there. 

It looks like it came from someone that uses a Bell South ASDL connection as their ISP. So folks that use Bell South, please run a full virus scan. One of you may be infected with a nasty :(

This is one of the new breed of spoofing e-mails that spoof the from line of the e-mail.

As for the others, probalby the same knid of deal, but you mail server is taking care of the virii before it hits your desktop.

--
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
Unfortunately common sense isn't so common!



From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Wed Apr  7 09:23:33 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 15:23:33 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Emails Problems
In-Reply-To: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D55C@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <002201c41cab$e8d0a630$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Yea, me too. Had one supposedly from JC and another "from" Jim Dettman.
Don't know what's generating them.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Hollis,Virginia
> Sent: 07 April 2004 15:16
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Emails Problems
> 
> 
> Has anyone been receiving strange emails with attachments? I 
> have been getting emails for the past 2 days with txt 
> attachments. I just received one that said it was from AccessD.
> 
> Virginia
> -- 
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> Website: 
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> 



From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Apr  7 09:26:05 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 00:26:05 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Change Data Type
Message-ID: <031d01c41cac$44219260$42669a89@DDICK>

Hello all
The help wasn't
Can anyone point me in the right direction for code
ADO or DAO
on changing the data type for an existing field in an existing table?

Many thanks

Darren



From ranthony at wrsystems.com  Wed Apr  7 09:27:56 2004
From: ranthony at wrsystems.com (ranthony at wrsystems.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 10:27:56 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Emails Problems
Message-ID: <5F21A4E8B8DD734992EF9E70AC9D3064128B5B@mail2.wrsystems.com>

Concur with Bryan, I've even received emails from my network support address
spoofed!

-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Carbonnell [mailto:carbonnb at sympatico.ca] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:23 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Emails Problems

> From: "Hollis,Virginia" <HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com>

> Has anyone been receiving strange emails with attachments? I have been
> getting emails for the past 2 days with txt attachments. I just received
one
> that said it was from AccessD.

The one that just came to the list "from" Marty Connelly appears to have
started out life as a virus, but the list software stripped out the payload,
so no worries there. 

It looks like it came from someone that uses a Bell South ASDL connection as
their ISP. So folks that use Bell South, please run a full virus scan. One
of you may be infected with a nasty :(

This is one of the new breed of spoofing e-mails that spoof the from line of
the e-mail.

As for the others, probalby the same knid of deal, but you mail server is
taking care of the virii before it hits your desktop.

--
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
Unfortunately common sense isn't so common!

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From EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us  Wed Apr  7 09:58:06 2004
From: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us (Tesiny, Ed)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 10:58:06 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Emails Problems
Message-ID: <FED384E544086A47AAC07C0999BE8D1701E051FE@albmsx2k.rt.oasas.state.ny.us>

It appears mine from Marty has the attachment.

Ed Tesiny
EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us


-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Carbonnell [mailto:carbonnb at sympatico.ca] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:23 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Emails Problems


> From: "Hollis,Virginia" <HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com>

> Has anyone been receiving strange emails with attachments? I have been
> getting emails for the past 2 days with txt attachments. I just
received one
> that said it was from AccessD.

The one that just came to the list "from" Marty Connelly appears to have
started out life as a virus, but the list software stripped out the
payload, so no worries there. 

It looks like it came from someone that uses a Bell South ASDL
connection as their ISP. So folks that use Bell South, please run a full
virus scan. One of you may be infected with a nasty :(

This is one of the new breed of spoofing e-mails that spoof the from
line of the e-mail.

As for the others, probalby the same knid of deal, but you mail server
is taking care of the virii before it hits your desktop.

--
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
Unfortunately common sense isn't so common!

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From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca  Wed Apr  7 10:05:29 2004
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 11:05:29 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Emails Problems
Message-ID: <s073e087.034@cbc.ca>

The attachment is just the AccessD list footer and not the virus.

Bryan Carbonnell
bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca


>>> EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us 07-Apr-04 10:58:06 AM >>>
It appears mine from Marty has the attachment.

Ed Tesiny
EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us


-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Carbonnell [mailto:carbonnb at sympatico.ca] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:23 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Emails Problems


> From: "Hollis,Virginia" <HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com>

> Has anyone been receiving strange emails with attachments? I have
been
> getting emails for the past 2 days with txt attachments. I just
received one
> that said it was from AccessD.

The one that just came to the list "from" Marty Connelly appears to
have
started out life as a virus, but the list software stripped out the
payload, so no worries there. 

It looks like it came from someone that uses a Bell South ASDL
connection as their ISP. So folks that use Bell South, please run a
full
virus scan. One of you may be infected with a nasty :(

This is one of the new breed of spoofing e-mails that spoof the from
line of the e-mail.

As for the others, probalby the same knid of deal, but you mail server
is taking care of the virii before it hits your desktop.



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Apr  7 10:10:47 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 08:10:47 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Another Trasnfer Database Q
References: <009501c41c32$030331a0$48619a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <407419F7.5020909@shaw.ca>

Are you missing a comma or parameter in call
Do you have an invalid DOS character in your filename
Are you using WinXP with locked down folders.
Reversed slashes?
should look like.
DoCmd.TransferSpreadsheet acImport, 3, 
"Employees","C:\Lotus\Newemps.wk3", True, "A1:G12"


Darren DICK wrote:

>Hello all
>When I try to import or link to a DBF or XLS file in the root directory all is well.
>When I move the dbf or XLS file to ANY dorectory/folder the import or link fails.
>Access spits up a long error message with Error Number
>Saying that the path is invalid. That I should go and check that it exists etc.
>Of course it exists I just created it for testing as well as using pre-existing directories.
>The Docmd.Transfer works - why would it fail when I use a folde?
>Yes I have tried quotes around the path and xls specs
>
>Any taker?
>
>Many thanks in advance
>
>Darren
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From my.lists at verizon.net  Wed Apr  7 10:35:15 2004
From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia)
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 08:35:15 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Emails Problems
In-Reply-To: <s073e087.034@cbc.ca>
References: <s073e087.034@cbc.ca>
Message-ID: <40741FB3.703@verizon.net>

For those of you w/ AV scanners make sure you've upgraded to the latest 
and greatest definition files, if you need to run an ONLINE scan I suggest
(TrendMicro) HTTP://www.antivirus.com

For those of you w/ outdated AV scanners who need to scan right now or 
are looking to not pay for your home pc's here is an alternative.
(AVAST, FREE)HTTP://www.avast.com/i_idt_1016.html



Bryan Carbonnell said the following on 4/7/2004 8:05 AM:

>The one that just came to the list "from" Marty Connelly appears to
>have
>started out life as a virus, but the list software stripped out the
>payload, so no worries there. 
>
>It looks like it came from someone that uses a Bell South ASDL
>connection as their ISP. So folks that use Bell South, please run a
>full
>virus scan. One of you may be infected with a nasty :(
>
>This is one of the new breed of spoofing e-mails that spoof the from
>line of the e-mail.
>
>As for the others, probalby the same knid of deal, but you mail server
>is taking care of the virii before it hits your desktop.
>
>  
>


-- 
-Francisco




From rjhjr at cox.net  Wed Apr  7 11:12:35 2004
From: rjhjr at cox.net (Bob Hall)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 12:12:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <4073334A.9454.28F0F8@localhost>
References: <20040406145847.NMC1781.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
	<4073334A.9454.28F0F8@localhost>
Message-ID: <20040407161234.GE40799@kongemord.krig.net>

On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 10:46:34PM -0400, Bryan Carbonnell wrote:
> On 6 Apr 2004 at 19:31, Bob Hall wrote:
> 
> > Linux will never have a standard GUI, because Linux is really only the
> > kernal. Linus Torvalds doesn't do shell or GUI development. All Linux
> 
> True enough. I guess I should have said that the various Linux 
> Distros need to standardise on a desktop. KDE or Gnome.
> 
> > Everything else is whatever the distro teams want to include. They're
> > never going to agree on a default window manager. On the other hand, a
> 
> >From what I understand the windows manager doesn't need to be 
> standardised, ithe the desktop environment.
> 
> There is the XServer, then there is the windows manager and then 
> finally the desktop environment.

twm, blackbox, and fvwm don't use desktop environments. Some window managers require a specific desktop environment. You can't decide on a desktop until you decide on the window manager. I use blackbox, so the desktop decision doesn't seem important to me. There are a lot of differences between window managers. Window Maker is very different from blackbox.

Actually, window managers and desktops seem to run side-by-side, rather than one running under the other. 

> > The immediate threat to MS has been security problems, due to massive
> > numbers of bugs. MS seems to have improved a lot since Gates sent out
> > his famous security e-mail. The three OSs gaining market share right
> 
> I actually don't think that security is high on most peoples list. 
> Otherwise why is my Win2K desktop at work only approved to be at SP1? 
> I have said screw it and installed SP4 myself.

This is true for workstations. Security is a bigger issue with servers than workstations. Breaking root on a server puts more at risk that a trapdoor on a workstation. And the person managing a server box is more likely to understand security than the person using a workstation.

The amazing thing is that people with SP1 think they are secure. (I just upgraded someone from SP1.) And if they were on Linux, they would be equally insecure, and just as certain that they were secure. So if they switched to Linux for security reasons, they would be deluding themselves. But a lot of organizations would do it if the market started to perceive Windows as the insecure system, which is what was starting to happen. The people who understood security would have been the first to switch, followed by the people who didn't and who wouldn't have been any more secure.

> > seats. So I would say that Linux is a threat to Windows in the
> > workstation market, not the server market.
> 
> The problem is that Linux is not making the inroads on the desktop, 
> but in the server room right now.

Linux is gaining in the server room, but not at MS's expense. Both Win and Linux are gaining market share. Sun, IBM, and HP are losing it. Critical apps that once needed proprietary chips and OSs can now be run on commodity hardware and cheap or free OSs.

In Europe, Windows has lost to Linux on some huge workstation contracts. That won't happen in the USA anytime soon because the federal government is committed to Windows. But European governments don't have that commitment, and some of them are actively encouraging businesses to switch to Linux. If the governments switch, many businesses and consumers will eventually follow suit. This isn't showing up in market share numbers yet, but it will if the trend continues.

Bob Hall


From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Apr  7 12:02:23 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 13:02:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Wierd AccXP memo happenings.
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA3080733C@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB3F3@ADGSERVER>

Hi all,

I have a query that pulls data from several tables.  Been running well for
years.  I get a call on Monday that it will not print all the way.  So after
some researching, I found out that the report was blowing up when it got to
a certain page.

What was happening is that the data from this one table is all of type
double.  BUT, for some reason, this one record is returning with the data
from a memo field from the same record (not pulled in the query) and is
blowing up where I am trying to keep up with some totals.

I can delete the data out of the memo and the query runs correctly.  I past
back the data and it blows up again.  So, I save the memo data in notepad,
remove it from the record, compact the database, import it into a new
database, then add the data back form notepad, and it blows again!

Any ideas (short of moving the memo field to its own record) on how to fix
this sort of problem?  It runs great on 100+ other database (all back-ends).

Thanks,
Bobby



From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Apr  7 12:07:57 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 12:07:57 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227A84@main2.marlow.com>

Kind of staying out of this, but wanted to comment about the college
students.  Microsoft sells their software to students at an incredible
discount. A co-worker going to UT, was able to get the entire Visual Studio
6, for $5, a few years ago.

Microsoft does this, because they know if the college students use it,
they'll be bringing their knowledge (and preferences) into the business
world.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Francisco H
Tapia
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 5:52 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: open source


Bryan Carbonnell said the following on 4/6/2004 2:46 PM:

>As for the actual Desktop operating system, that is further out. 5-7
>years would be my guess. Linux needs a few things to become more
>competitive with Windows. It *needs* to become less "geek-friendly" and
>more "user friendly". It also *NEEDS* to have a "standard" GUI, or at
>least a standard layout. 
>
While I agree with you I also have to guess that a Linux convertion may 
be closer than we all guess.  There have been leaps and bounds in which 
the various distros have improved their desktop products.  I also must 
concur that a standardized GUI would be the killer blow that would/will 
ultimately drive hords of users away from Microsoft.  I base my opinion 
off such distros like RedHat or even the newest one I've seen 
(Knopixx).  Wich is an OS bootable completely off the CD.  It is Linux, 
and what makes this even more cool is that you could theoretically put 
out a distro that would make it so that end users "couldn't" break thier 
installations.  Just always boot from the CD.  With High end products 
such as ThunderBird and FireFox and even some of the OpenOffice 
products, Open Source products are reaching maturity levels that are 
acceptable to a wider population.  Some of the greatest leaps have been 
"custom installers" for such products. This improves delivery to end 
users who are wanting to try a simpler to use OPEN SOURCE community.

A greater risk than vulnerabilities in MS software is not so much the 
security holes, but the COST of the software.  You have many college 
students that simply can't afford to go w/ MS Office so they use 
OpenOffice.  While not all do, the trend is steadily climing, and w/ the 
avalability getting better and the quaility reaching acceptace from the 
general public, this will help push more OpenSource software into the 
main stream.


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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Apr  7 12:11:06 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 12:11:06 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227A85@main2.marlow.com>

Why?  We share code here.  Then there are a million and one sites all based
upon techies sharing information.

In my opinion, the rest of the world needs to catch up with the internet.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 6:07 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: open source


 
Open source does not mean free of cost.  Nor does it always mean free of
licence fees.

====Right, I understand that and I don't mean to confuse the issue, but
sharing intellectual property in this way is an odd concept to me. 

Susan H. 

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Apr  7 12:14:57 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 12:14:57 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227A86@main2.marlow.com>

Not too mention Remote Administrators 'routing' capability.  (ie, I have it
on my server at home, but then I can hit any machine on my home network by
'routing' through my server).

Drew

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 8:33 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file


We tried GoToMyPC here.  Had a number of problems, especially when working
in a "2-way" teleconference where both parties were driving the machine.
The machine would hang while waiting for the other party to move their
mouse, click a key, etc.

I followed Drew's suggestion a while back, and picked up a copy of Remote
Administrator (www.radmin.com).  $35 covers the license for 2 machines.  No
monthly charges.  No headaches.  Works for us!


-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com]
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 5:35 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file


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Steve,

I don't have an answer to your specific problem, but since your client is
distant this might help:

Have your client download a trial version of GoToMyPC.  He can set up an
account for himself.  GoToMyPC has a feature called 'Guest Invite'.  He can
use this to let you see what's happening on his screen, and you can control
his PC from yours so you can do some troubleshooting.  

I guess this is similar to WebEx or PCAnywhere.  If he decides to keep the
GoToMyPC account, he only needs to pay $15/mo.  I use it to work with my
clients so they can see 'drafts' of what I'm doing without making a trip.

Best of Luck!
Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steven W. Erbach
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 10:33 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file

Dear Group,

I have an Access 2000 FE/BE application loaded on a client's system in
another city 90 miles away. I've been working with their network guy over
the phone and he's sent me screen shots of error messages along the way.
Here's the situation.

The "master" MDB FE database is loaded on the server. I have the local
people there create an MDE and place it in another folder so that's it's
available for the users who download it to their workstations when a new
version is ready. While working with my client's network guy, Bob, the MDE
file SEEMS to be created all right; but once the compacting is finished and
the FE starts up, the first form opens and he gets this message (it's an "i"
message):

The expression On Load you entered as the event property setting produced
the following error: Error accessing file. Network connection may have been
lost.

  * The expression may not result in the name of a macro, the name of a
user-defined function, or [Event Procedure].
  * There may have been an error evaluating the function, event, or macro.

When he clicks OK the startup form (which is supposed to be hidden) is there
on the screen and the application has halted.

INVESTIGATION:

1) They don't have the Documentor installed so I can't see what the path is
to the BE.

2) However, I do have a form (that I cobbed from Steve Nyberg) that shows
all the links with their paths. When we attempt to open this form we get the
message you see above. Click OK on the message and Nyberg's SeeLinks form
opens but with nothing showing up regarding linked tables.

3) I can open the linked tables from the "master" front end. But when I open
the table that contains the latest version number (part of the version
upgrade system) I see something odd. This Versions table has one row. The
table has a Default value of the Now() function in the VersionDate column.
On my system when I look at the table I see the first row all right and in
the 2nd (empty) row I see (AutoNumber) in the key field and today's date and
time in the VersionDate column. On my client's system he sees #Name? in the
VersionDate column in an empty row. He cannot add information in a new row
because Access doesn't like the default value. So I had Bob remove the
default value. I still get the main problem.

4) The users can still run the application from their workstations using the
old version of the FE. There hasn't been any problem there.

5) The Startup form of the FE calls Carl Tribble's Auto-Linker to check the
link status of the first table before the main switchboard menu appears.
This is all working properly on the users' workstations.

6) I tried Compact and Repair on both the BE and the FE. No change in basic
error.

7) I checked the references. They're all there.

8) Only thing I haven't done (at least that I know how to do) is a
/decompile on the "master" FE on the server.

I'm sorry about the length of this message. I somehow doubt that I would
find the problem even if I were sitting at the workstation. Bob is very
capable, so I'm sure he's relaying to me everything that he sees.

At least my clients can still work with the older version of the app. I am
just stumped why this error message appears in the "master" front end
database. Any thoughts, other than "Well, why the heck do you let the user
make an MDE in the first place, ya numbskull?!"

Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
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From pnl1 at psu.edu  Wed Apr  7 12:15:45 2004
From: pnl1 at psu.edu (Paul Liadis)
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 13:15:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Query Truncating Data
In-Reply-To: <5F21A4E8B8DD734992EF9E70AC9D3064128B5A@mail2.wrsystems.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040407131402.03e31c80@mail.psu.edu>

Thanks for the information.  I finally determined my problem was that my 
memo field was included in the "Group By" clause.  This caused Access to 
truncate the field.  I guess this is a known issue in Access.  I am used to 
SQL Server.  Anyhow, I took the field out of the Group By and was OK.

Paul Liadis

At 09:33 AM 4/7/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>See M$ KB 170218.
>
>A workaround I used in an older program is as follows (this is A97):
>
>'The following lines of code is a workaround provided by MS due to W97
>inability to assign the value of a variable containing
>     'more than 255 characters.  This is obviously a non-starter, as the
>fields indicated are memo fields in Access.
>     'The formfield is populated with asterisks as a placemark, the document
>then has to be unprotected, then the contents are
>     'dumped into the formfield.  After that, the asteriks are deleted, and
>the protection for the document is reinstated.
>     'The if statement is so this processing effort won't be invoked unless
>the field is not null and contains more than 255 characters.
>     '
>
>     If Not IsNull(Forms!frmstrinput!txtBrief) And
>Len(Forms!frmstrinput!txtBrief) > 255 Then
>         'set Description form field to a unique string.
>         WordObj.Documents(1).FormFields("Description").Result = "****"
>         If WordObj.Documents(1).ProtectionType <> wdNoProtection Then
>             WordObj.Documents(1).Unprotect Password:="bob"
>         End If
>         WordObj.Selection.Goto what:=wdGoToBookmark, Name:="Description"
>         WordObj.Selection.Collapse
>         WordObj.Selection.MoveRight wdCharacter, 1
>         WordObj.Selection.TypeText (Forms!frmstrinput!txtBrief)
>         WordObj.Selection.Goto wdGoToBookmark, , , "description"
>         'Remove unique characters from Description form field
>         With WordObj.Selection.Find
>             .Execute findtext:="*", replacewith:="", replace:=wdReplaceAll
>         End With
>         WordObj.Documents(1).Protect Password:="bob", noreset:=True,
>Type:=wdAllowOnlyFormFields
>
>     Else
>         WordObj.Documents(1).FormFields("Description").Result =
>IIf(IsNull(Forms!frmstrinput!txtBrief), "", (Forms!frmstrinput!txtBrief))
>     End If
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Paul Liadis [mailto:pnl1 at psu.edu]
>Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 9:22 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Query Truncating Data
>
>Hello,
>I am having a problem with a query in which my data is being truncated to
>255 characters.  My query simply selects from a table (linked from SQL
>Server), but doesn't return all the data in one of the columns (defined as
>memo in Access).  The data is being truncated even though it exists in the
>table.  Has anyone experienced this?
>
>Thanks,
>
>===============================================
>Paul Liadis
>Senior Applications Programmer/Analyst
>University Budget Office
>Pennsylvania State University
>
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From ranthony at wrsystems.com  Wed Apr  7 12:21:47 2004
From: ranthony at wrsystems.com (ranthony at wrsystems.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 13:21:47 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Query Truncating Data
Message-ID: <5F21A4E8B8DD734992EF9E70AC9D3064128B5D@mail2.wrsystems.com>

Glad you got it fixed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Liadis [mailto:pnl1 at psu.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:16 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query Truncating Data

Thanks for the information.  I finally determined my problem was that my 
memo field was included in the "Group By" clause.  This caused Access to 
truncate the field.  I guess this is a known issue in Access.  I am used to 
SQL Server.  Anyhow, I took the field out of the Group By and was OK.

Paul Liadis

At 09:33 AM 4/7/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>See M$ KB 170218.
>
>A workaround I used in an older program is as follows (this is A97):
>
>'The following lines of code is a workaround provided by MS due to W97
>inability to assign the value of a variable containing
>     'more than 255 characters.  This is obviously a non-starter, as the
>fields indicated are memo fields in Access.
>     'The formfield is populated with asterisks as a placemark, the
document
>then has to be unprotected, then the contents are
>     'dumped into the formfield.  After that, the asteriks are deleted, and
>the protection for the document is reinstated.
>     'The if statement is so this processing effort won't be invoked unless
>the field is not null and contains more than 255 characters.
>     '
>
>     If Not IsNull(Forms!frmstrinput!txtBrief) And
>Len(Forms!frmstrinput!txtBrief) > 255 Then
>         'set Description form field to a unique string.
>         WordObj.Documents(1).FormFields("Description").Result = "****"
>         If WordObj.Documents(1).ProtectionType <> wdNoProtection Then
>             WordObj.Documents(1).Unprotect Password:="bob"
>         End If
>         WordObj.Selection.Goto what:=wdGoToBookmark, Name:="Description"
>         WordObj.Selection.Collapse
>         WordObj.Selection.MoveRight wdCharacter, 1
>         WordObj.Selection.TypeText (Forms!frmstrinput!txtBrief)
>         WordObj.Selection.Goto wdGoToBookmark, , , "description"
>         'Remove unique characters from Description form field
>         With WordObj.Selection.Find
>             .Execute findtext:="*", replacewith:="", replace:=wdReplaceAll
>         End With
>         WordObj.Documents(1).Protect Password:="bob", noreset:=True,
>Type:=wdAllowOnlyFormFields
>
>     Else
>         WordObj.Documents(1).FormFields("Description").Result =
>IIf(IsNull(Forms!frmstrinput!txtBrief), "", (Forms!frmstrinput!txtBrief))
>     End If
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Paul Liadis [mailto:pnl1 at psu.edu]
>Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 9:22 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Query Truncating Data
>
>Hello,
>I am having a problem with a query in which my data is being truncated to
>255 characters.  My query simply selects from a table (linked from SQL
>Server), but doesn't return all the data in one of the columns (defined as
>memo in Access).  The data is being truncated even though it exists in the
>table.  Has anyone experienced this?
>
>Thanks,
>
>===============================================
>Paul Liadis
>Senior Applications Programmer/Analyst
>University Budget Office
>Pennsylvania State University
>
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Wed Apr  7 12:36:05 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 13:36:05 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB4C@nnse14.nns.com>

Group,

I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder permissions) to
only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
database for general use that needs to link to a table in that restricted
database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the minimum necessary
to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any modifications
to the data?

Permissions:		Allow/Deny?
Full Control
Modify
Read & Execute
List Folder Contents
Read
Write


TIA,

Mark


From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Apr  7 12:48:55 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 12:48:55 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] How do I
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227A87@main2.marlow.com>

Here ya go....

Function GetTime(dtDateWithTime As Date) As Date
GetTime = TimeSerial(Hour(dtDateWithTime), Minute(dtDateWithTime),
Second(dtDateWithTime))
End Function

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 12:03 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] How do I


Having a bit of a problem tonight.

Given #5/11/2000 3:20:00 PM#

How do I get rid of the date portion and return just the time?

I tried subtracting the clng(ThatDate) from the whole... sometimes worked
but sometimes gave me bad time (but never any date portion)

I tried dateadd("d",-clng(ThatDate),ThatDate)... That always gives me the
correct time but 12/29/1899 as the date portion if the time is in the PM.

I have a bunch of times that include the date and I need to strip the date
off the time.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Apr  7 12:49:46 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 12:49:46 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227A88@main2.marlow.com>

Yes I make my living off this list.  Wait until my billing goes out! LOL

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 9:52 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: open source


Do you make your living from this list? If all of your clients or your boss
suddenly said "Keep it up, you're doing great, but btw, you're working for
free now, aren't you?" Or, how about, "And show this new guy everything you
know so we don't need you anymore." -- would that be OK?

Susan H. 

On 6 Apr 2004 at 19:06, Susan Harkins wrote:

> ====Right, I understand that and I don't mean to confuse the issue, 
> but sharing intellectual property in this way is an odd concept to me.

What part is odd? 

We freely share our intelectual property here everyday.

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Apr  7 12:38:36 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 10:38:36 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
References: <20040406145847.NMC1781.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <40743C9C.6090201@shaw.ca>

 One thought on open source. Without a certain critical mass of users, 
support for certain types of open source software
can be a definite problem. This happens when you go beyond the common 
spreadsheet and word processing programs.

Let use an example. The two major general statistical packages SPSS and 
SAS do not run on Linux. They are used throughout government and large 
companies like pharmaceutical industries. Both these packages are taught 
in universities in courses like the Social Sciences. There is a large 
user support database, user conventions, mailing lists etc. The users 
have a familiarity with the packages.

 Now there is an open source replacement called R. Works on Unix, Linux 
and Windows.

R is possibly as good as SAS.  Probably better graphics than SAS-Graph. 
Cutting edge statistics - Many are developed in R (or in its commercial
cousin - S Plus).  It takes a while for them to make it into SAS. R 
doesn't have the data management abilities that SAS has.
However support is limited. The R language used is as different from SAS 
as English is to Swahili. So the ordinary social scientist doing 
regression analysis is going to have problem switching, whereas a recent 
Ph.D. in Statistics has probably been exposed to both languages. What I 
have seen in some large government departments is  a reasonable 
compromise using Base SAS for data management and exploratory data 
analysis and R for more advanced stats and graphs.

 Until recently R was restricted by only working with Data Sets in 
memory and access to external data was limited. In another year, they 
will be able to get at XML data, SAS  transport (XPORT) format data sets 
and some databases. It can get at Postgres now, higher versions of SQL 
and even Access.
 If you switch from SAS to R, you will have to overcome training and 
support problems  Is it worth the $1000 a seat difference? There are not 
a lot of people familiar with R (not enough critical mass of users or 
support personnel) . If some of the major pharmaceuticals switch to R, 
then the number of support personnel will increase. They will then endow 
some more universities to start teaching it to ensure a supply of 
trained personnel.

If anyone is interested in running Access and R on windows here is a 
starting point. I suppose you can also do it on Linux with Samba.

http://www.r-project.org/
http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/pub/R/rw-FAQ.html

 Here is where a lot of open source packages fall down on data 
mangement. For example MAXDB (old SAPDB) from MySQL has a limited  ODBC 
driver and no OLEDB driver Would be nice to have to link to dotNet. 
However you will have to wait for some kind spirited soul to write one, 
It would take a least 3 months of someone's time. I have heard of people 
offering to do it for $10,000. Maybe someone will do it at MySQL. Guys 
who can write this type of code are thin on the ground.

This also happens with other large scale systems like AutoCAD or GIS 
systems like ArcINFO. ArcINFO can handle spatial database engines on 
Linux, but the front end Linux support requires Java Object interfaces, 
where there is little open source generic front ends available for 
datamangement. Although there are plenty of  frontend viewers available 
even through html and maybe svg xml. There are no decent free/open 
source CAD packages. Why? Because it is so damn difficult and 
time/manpower consuming to program one. Therefore to try and duplicate 
the functionality of any CAD package and especially the new generation 
parameteric modellers such as AutoCad Inventor, ProE, SolidWorks, etc. 
is not practical. I would say it is impossible with a limited 2D 
programs  such as open source MetaPost.

And come to think of it. I haven't seen any good open source accounting 
packages for Linux.

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Apr  7 13:06:53 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 14:06:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227A85@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <20040407180713.XGDQ1746.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

It's still peer to peer Drew, in a mutually beneficial exchange -- that
doesn't equate to software manufacturers going open code with everything. 

Susan H. 

Why?  We share code here.  Then there are a million and one sites all based
upon techies sharing information.

In my opinion, the rest of the world needs to catch up with the internet.




From Patricia.O'Connor at DFA.STATE.NY.US  Wed Apr  7 13:21:19 2004
From: Patricia.O'Connor at DFA.STATE.NY.US (O'Connor, Patricia  )
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 14:21:19 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] How do I
Message-ID: <F3AD5F74D038C045A3BDB2773581F4DB0188253B@exchsen0a1mc>

John,

Try this 
TIMEVALUE(#12/07/2001 10:43:56 AM#)

Patti


> -----Original Message-----
> From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 01:03 AM
> To: AccessD
> Subject: [AccessD] How do I
> 
> 
> Having a bit of a problem tonight.
> 
> Given #5/11/2000 3:20:00 PM#
> 
> How do I get rid of the date portion and return just the time?
> 
> I tried subtracting the clng(ThatDate) from the whole... 
> sometimes worked
> but sometimes gave me bad time (but never any date portion)
> 
> I tried dateadd("d",-clng(ThatDate),ThatDate)... That always 
> gives me the
> correct time but 12/29/1899 as the date portion if the time 
> is in the PM.
> 
> I have a bunch of times that include the date and I need to 
> strip the date
> off the time.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> 
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Apr  7 13:28:55 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 13:28:55 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227A8C@main2.marlow.com>

Here yes, but on download sites, like PlanetSourceCode.com, no.  On sites
where code is posted, and retrieved by anyone that wants it, that is open
source.  The difference is, code like that is generic, or single purpose.
You want something specific, or tailored to your needs, then you hire a
developer.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:07 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: open source


It's still peer to peer Drew, in a mutually beneficial exchange -- that
doesn't equate to software manufacturers going open code with everything. 

Susan H. 

Why?  We share code here.  Then there are a million and one sites all based
upon techies sharing information.

In my opinion, the rest of the world needs to catch up with the internet.


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From mms at sentex.net  Wed Apr  7 13:47:42 2004
From: mms at sentex.net (Les Dunn)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 14:47:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Emails Problems
References: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D55C@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <003d01c41cd0$cf2b8e50$e0fc7018@lesdunn>

Yes.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hollis,Virginia" <HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:15 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Emails Problems


> Has anyone been receiving strange emails with attachments? I have been
> getting emails for the past 2 days with txt attachments. I just received
one
> that said it was from AccessD.
>
> Virginia
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Wed Apr  7 14:00:21 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 15:00:21 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB4E@nnse14.nns.com>

Can anyone point me in the right direction on this?



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:36 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Group,

I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder permissions) to
only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
database for general use that needs to link to a table in that restricted
database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the minimum necessary
to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any modifications
to the data?

Permissions:		Allow/Deny?
Full Control
Modify
Read & Execute
List Folder Contents
Read
Write


TIA,

Mark
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From ranthony at wrsystems.com  Wed Apr  7 14:40:14 2004
From: ranthony at wrsystems.com (ranthony at wrsystems.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 15:40:14 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
Message-ID: <5F21A4E8B8DD734992EF9E70AC9D3064128B5E@mail2.wrsystems.com>

Mark,
Off the top of my head, I'd go with Read & Execute and Read and no other
permissions.  They will need at least Read permissions to access the
folders.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher

Can anyone point me in the right direction on this?



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:36 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Group,

I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder permissions) to
only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
database for general use that needs to link to a table in that restricted
database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the minimum necessary
to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any modifications
to the data?

Permissions:		Allow/Deny?
Full Control
Modify
Read & Execute
List Folder Contents
Read
Write


TIA,

Mark
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Wed Apr  7 14:48:32 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 15:48:32 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB4F@nnse14.nns.com>

Thanks for your reply.  Because I'm not familiar with this topic I have to
wonder...wouldn't "Read" be redundant if "Read & Execute" was allowed?  Or
are they two separate things?  I'm looking for the absolute minimum.


Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: ranthony at wrsystems.com [mailto:ranthony at wrsystems.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:40 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Mark,
Off the top of my head, I'd go with Read & Execute and Read and no other
permissions.  They will need at least Read permissions to access the
folders.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher

Can anyone point me in the right direction on this?



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:36 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Group,

I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder permissions) to
only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
database for general use that needs to link to a table in that restricted
database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the minimum necessary
to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any modifications
to the data?

Permissions:		Allow/Deny?
Full Control
Modify
Read & Execute
List Folder Contents
Read
Write


TIA,

Mark
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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Wed Apr  7 14:56:01 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 15:56:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
In-Reply-To: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB4C@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKKEBOIPAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Mark,

  You can't do what you want through OS level security.  You need to use
Access level security.  All users, regardless of what they do once inside
the container need full rights where the directory resides and read/modify
on the MDB file itself.

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
S. (Newport News)
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:36 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Group,

I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder permissions) to
only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
database for general use that needs to link to a table in that restricted
database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the minimum necessary
to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any modifications
to the data?

Permissions:		Allow/Deny?
Full Control
Modify
Read & Execute
List Folder Contents
Read
Write


TIA,

Mark
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From mikedorism at adelphia.net  Wed Apr  7 14:41:54 2004
From: mikedorism at adelphia.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 15:41:54 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
In-Reply-To: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB4E@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <000001c41cd8$614d3520$ed194244@hargrove.internal>

I believe the minimum necessary is Read & Execute.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark S.
(Newport News)
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Can anyone point me in the right direction on this?



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:36 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Group,

I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder permissions) to
only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
database for general use that needs to link to a table in that restricted
database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the minimum necessary
to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any modifications
to the data?

Permissions:		Allow/Deny?
Full Control
Modify
Read & Execute
List Folder Contents
Read
Write


TIA,

Mark
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Wed Apr  7 15:04:45 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 16:04:45 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB50@nnse14.nns.com>

Really?  Because in this afternoon's testing I set up a test case where the
user was given only Read & Execute, List Folder Contents, and Read to the
folder containing the remote db.  That user was able to execute a select
query in datasheet view, but was not able to modify any of the entries.
That's as far as I was able to take the testing thus far.



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Mark,

  You can't do what you want through OS level security.  You need to use
Access level security.  All users, regardless of what they do once inside
the container need full rights where the directory resides and read/modify
on the MDB file itself.

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
S. (Newport News)
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:36 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Group,

I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder permissions) to
only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
database for general use that needs to link to a table in that restricted
database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the minimum necessary
to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any modifications
to the data?

Permissions:		Allow/Deny?
Full Control
Modify
Read & Execute
List Folder Contents
Read
Write


TIA,

Mark
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Wed Apr  7 15:05:56 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 16:05:56 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB51@nnse14.nns.com>

Thank you...that will be the test I run tomorrow.



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike & Doris Manning [mailto:mikedorism at adelphia.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:42 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


I believe the minimum necessary is Read & Execute.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark S.
(Newport News)
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Can anyone point me in the right direction on this?



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:36 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Group,

I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder permissions) to
only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
database for general use that needs to link to a table in that restricted
database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the minimum necessary
to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any modifications
to the data?

Permissions:		Allow/Deny?
Full Control
Modify
Read & Execute
List Folder Contents
Read
Write


TIA,

Mark
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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Wed Apr  7 15:07:35 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 15:07:35 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] How do I
Message-ID: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE4CF@TAPPEEXCH01>

TimeValue()

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 12:03 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] How do I


Having a bit of a problem tonight.

Given #5/11/2000 3:20:00 PM#

How do I get rid of the date portion and return just the time?

I tried subtracting the clng(ThatDate) from the whole... sometimes worked
but sometimes gave me bad time (but never any date portion)

I tried dateadd("d",-clng(ThatDate),ThatDate)... That always gives me the
correct time but 12/29/1899 as the date portion if the time is in the PM.

I have a bunch of times that include the date and I need to strip the date
off the time.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com



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From ranthony at wrsystems.com  Wed Apr  7 15:12:34 2004
From: ranthony at wrsystems.com (ranthony at wrsystems.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 16:12:34 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
Message-ID: <5F21A4E8B8DD734992EF9E70AC9D3064128B5F@mail2.wrsystems.com>

I think this is correct.  I was going to agree with Jim on full control is
needed so the user can write to the .ldb, but your testing seems to bear
this out.  Our system is setup so that users have full control on the
folders and I use Access security within that.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher

Really?  Because in this afternoon's testing I set up a test case where the
user was given only Read & Execute, List Folder Contents, and Read to the
folder containing the remote db.  That user was able to execute a select
query in datasheet view, but was not able to modify any of the entries.
That's as far as I was able to take the testing thus far.



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Mark,

  You can't do what you want through OS level security.  You need to use
Access level security.  All users, regardless of what they do once inside
the container need full rights where the directory resides and read/modify
on the MDB file itself.

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
S. (Newport News)
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:36 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Group,

I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder permissions) to
only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
database for general use that needs to link to a table in that restricted
database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the minimum necessary
to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any modifications
to the data?

Permissions:		Allow/Deny?
Full Control
Modify
Read & Execute
List Folder Contents
Read
Write


TIA,

Mark
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Wed Apr  7 15:21:45 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 16:21:45 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB52@nnse14.nns.com>

It seems that in this case, write privileges to allow for the .ldb are not
needed because I am only linking to a table in that database...not actually
opening the database.



Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: ranthony at wrsystems.com [mailto:ranthony at wrsystems.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:13 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


I think this is correct.  I was going to agree with Jim on full control is
needed so the user can write to the .ldb, but your testing seems to bear
this out.  Our system is setup so that users have full control on the
folders and I use Access security within that.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher

Really?  Because in this afternoon's testing I set up a test case where the
user was given only Read & Execute, List Folder Contents, and Read to the
folder containing the remote db.  That user was able to execute a select
query in datasheet view, but was not able to modify any of the entries.
That's as far as I was able to take the testing thus far.



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Mark,

  You can't do what you want through OS level security.  You need to use
Access level security.  All users, regardless of what they do once inside
the container need full rights where the directory resides and read/modify
on the MDB file itself.

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
S. (Newport News)
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:36 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Group,

I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder permissions) to
only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
database for general use that needs to link to a table in that restricted
database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the minimum necessary
to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any modifications
to the data?

Permissions:		Allow/Deny?
Full Control
Modify
Read & Execute
List Folder Contents
Read
Write


TIA,

Mark
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From mikedorism at adelphia.net  Wed Apr  7 15:31:01 2004
From: mikedorism at adelphia.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 16:31:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
In-Reply-To: <5F21A4E8B8DD734992EF9E70AC9D3064128B5F@mail2.wrsystems.com>
Message-ID: <000001c41cdf$3fe87460$ed194244@hargrove.internal>

You don't need Full Control if you are linking to an MDB in another
location.  Your rights to the tables in that MDB are controlled by your OS
rights to the folder it is in.  No LDB gets opened at all for the MDB you
are linked to in this case.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
ranthony at wrsystems.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:13 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


I think this is correct.  I was going to agree with Jim on full control is
needed so the user can write to the .ldb, but your testing seems to bear
this out.  Our system is setup so that users have full control on the
folders and I use Access security within that.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher

Really?  Because in this afternoon's testing I set up a test case where the
user was given only Read & Execute, List Folder Contents, and Read to the
folder containing the remote db.  That user was able to execute a select
query in datasheet view, but was not able to modify any of the entries.
That's as far as I was able to take the testing thus far.



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Mark,

  You can't do what you want through OS level security.  You need to use
Access level security.  All users, regardless of what they do once inside
the container need full rights where the directory resides and read/modify
on the MDB file itself.

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark S.
(Newport News)
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:36 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Group,

I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder permissions) to
only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
database for general use that needs to link to a table in that restricted
database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the minimum necessary
to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any modifications
to the data?

Permissions:		Allow/Deny?
Full Control
Modify
Read & Execute
List Folder Contents
Read
Write


TIA,

Mark
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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Wed Apr  7 15:29:06 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 16:29:06 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
In-Reply-To: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB50@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKGECAIPAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Mark,

  Yes.  If you don't, the first user in will not be able to create a .LDB
file and the MDB will get opened in exclusive mode.  Beyond that, when a
user attaches to the database, Access needs to write to the database header
page even if the user is going to be doing read only things.  If it can't do
that, again the result will be exclusive mode.

  So users need read/write privilege for the folder and read/write
privileges for the MDB file itself.

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
S. (Newport News)
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Really?  Because in this afternoon's testing I set up a test case where the
user was given only Read & Execute, List Folder Contents, and Read to the
folder containing the remote db.  That user was able to execute a select
query in datasheet view, but was not able to modify any of the entries.
That's as far as I was able to take the testing thus far.



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Mark,

  You can't do what you want through OS level security.  You need to use
Access level security.  All users, regardless of what they do once inside
the container need full rights where the directory resides and read/modify
on the MDB file itself.

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
S. (Newport News)
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:36 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Group,

I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder permissions) to
only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
database for general use that needs to link to a table in that restricted
database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the minimum necessary
to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any modifications
to the data?

Permissions:		Allow/Deny?
Full Control
Modify
Read & Execute
List Folder Contents
Read
Write


TIA,

Mark
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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Wed Apr  7 15:30:42 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 16:30:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
In-Reply-To: <000001c41cdf$3fe87460$ed194244@hargrove.internal>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKMECAIPAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Doris,

  <<No LDB gets opened at all for the MDB you
are linked to in this case.>>

  Yes, one always gets created anytime a user attaches to a MDB file (even
if via a linked table).  If one is not created, Access/JET defaults to
exclusive use.

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:31 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


You don't need Full Control if you are linking to an MDB in another
location.  Your rights to the tables in that MDB are controlled by your OS
rights to the folder it is in.  No LDB gets opened at all for the MDB you
are linked to in this case.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
ranthony at wrsystems.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:13 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


I think this is correct.  I was going to agree with Jim on full control is
needed so the user can write to the .ldb, but your testing seems to bear
this out.  Our system is setup so that users have full control on the
folders and I use Access security within that.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher

Really?  Because in this afternoon's testing I set up a test case where the
user was given only Read & Execute, List Folder Contents, and Read to the
folder containing the remote db.  That user was able to execute a select
query in datasheet view, but was not able to modify any of the entries.
That's as far as I was able to take the testing thus far.



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Mark,

  You can't do what you want through OS level security.  You need to use
Access level security.  All users, regardless of what they do once inside
the container need full rights where the directory resides and read/modify
on the MDB file itself.

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark S.
(Newport News)
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:36 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Group,

I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder permissions) to
only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
database for general use that needs to link to a table in that restricted
database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the minimum necessary
to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any modifications
to the data?

Permissions:		Allow/Deny?
Full Control
Modify
Read & Execute
List Folder Contents
Read
Write


TIA,

Mark
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From ranthony at wrsystems.com  Wed Apr  7 15:39:10 2004
From: ranthony at wrsystems.com (ranthony at wrsystems.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 16:39:10 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
Message-ID: <5F21A4E8B8DD734992EF9E70AC9D3064128B60@mail2.wrsystems.com>

Very interesting discussion here, I'm learning...

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike & Doris Manning [mailto:mikedorism at adelphia.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:31 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher

You don't need Full Control if you are linking to an MDB in another
location.  Your rights to the tables in that MDB are controlled by your OS
rights to the folder it is in.  No LDB gets opened at all for the MDB you
are linked to in this case.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
ranthony at wrsystems.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:13 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


I think this is correct.  I was going to agree with Jim on full control is
needed so the user can write to the .ldb, but your testing seems to bear
this out.  Our system is setup so that users have full control on the
folders and I use Access security within that.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher

Really?  Because in this afternoon's testing I set up a test case where the
user was given only Read & Execute, List Folder Contents, and Read to the
folder containing the remote db.  That user was able to execute a select
query in datasheet view, but was not able to modify any of the entries.
That's as far as I was able to take the testing thus far.



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Mark,

  You can't do what you want through OS level security.  You need to use
Access level security.  All users, regardless of what they do once inside
the container need full rights where the directory resides and read/modify
on the MDB file itself.

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark S.
(Newport News)
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:36 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Group,

I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder permissions) to
only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
database for general use that needs to link to a table in that restricted
database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the minimum necessary
to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any modifications
to the data?

Permissions:		Allow/Deny?
Full Control
Modify
Read & Execute
List Folder Contents
Read
Write


TIA,

Mark
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From Patricia.O'Connor at DFA.STATE.NY.US  Wed Apr  7 15:40:34 2004
From: Patricia.O'Connor at DFA.STATE.NY.US (O'Connor, Patricia  )
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 16:40:34 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Access2k - Move ODBC option in dropdown
Message-ID: <F3AD5F74D038C045A3BDB2773581F4DB0188253E@exchsen0a1mc>


Hi all,
When linking tables to an access database, there is a dropdown box with all
the different options for datatype. Does anyone know how to move the ODBC
option up in the list. Right now it comes up last, I would like to move it
up to 1st-3rd.

Thanks
Patti

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 04:31 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
> 
> 
> Doris,
> 
>   <<No LDB gets opened at all for the MDB you
> are linked to in this case.>>
> 
>   Yes, one always gets created anytime a user attaches to a 
> MDB file (even
> if via a linked table).  If one is not created, Access/JET defaults to
> exclusive use.
> 
> Jim Dettman
> (315) 699-3443
> jimdettman at earthlink.net
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
> Manning
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:31 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
> 
> 
> You don't need Full Control if you are linking to an MDB in another
> location.  Your rights to the tables in that MDB are 
> controlled by your OS
> rights to the folder it is in.  No LDB gets opened at all for 
> the MDB you
> are linked to in this case.
> 
> Doris Manning
> Database Administrator
> Hargrove Inc.
> www.hargroveinc.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> ranthony at wrsystems.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:13 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
> 
> 
> I think this is correct.  I was going to agree with Jim on 
> full control is
> needed so the user can write to the .ldb, but your testing 
> seems to bear
> this out.  Our system is setup so that users have full control on the
> folders and I use Access security within that.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:05 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
> 
> Really?  Because in this afternoon's testing I set up a test 
> case where the
> user was given only Read & Execute, List Folder Contents, and 
> Read to the
> folder containing the remote db.  That user was able to 
> execute a select
> query in datasheet view, but was not able to modify any of 
> the entries.
> That's as far as I was able to take the testing thus far.
> 
> 
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:56 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
> 
> 
> Mark,
> 
>   You can't do what you want through OS level security.  You 
> need to use
> Access level security.  All users, regardless of what they do 
> once inside
> the container need full rights where the directory resides 
> and read/modify
> on the MDB file itself.
> 
> Jim Dettman
> (315) 699-3443
> jimdettman at earthlink.net
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of 
> Mitsules, Mark S.
> (Newport News)
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:36 PM
> To: '[AccessD]'
> Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
> 
> 
> Group,
> 
> I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder 
> permissions) to
> only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
> database for general use that needs to link to a table in 
> that restricted
> database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the 
> minimum necessary
> to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any 
> modifications
> to the data?
> 
> Permissions:		Allow/Deny?
> Full Control
> Modify
> Read & Execute
> List Folder Contents
> Read
> Write
> 
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Mark
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Wed Apr  7 16:07:26 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 17:07:26 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Startup Properties
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB53@nnse14.nns.com>

Building on the "Permissions Refresher" topic, has anyone implemented, or is
it possible, to minimize user's "oops" by utilizing the following scenario?

FIRST - Uncheck the following startup properties:
Display Database Window
Allow Full Menus
Allow Default Shortcut Menus
Allow Built-in Toolbars
Allow Toolbar/Menu Changes
Use Access Special Keys

SECOND - Create an Administrator option that is shown on the switchboard
based on the results of the GetUserName function.  This would provide a form
to reset those startup properties to default if needed.


This database solution is in its infancy and bound to go through numerous
design changes...therefore, I need to be able to go into design mode when
necessary, yet default to a more secure mode when I exit.  Is this a viable
solution for use in a small workgroup?  Any downside?


Mark


From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Apr  7 17:12:43 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 17:12:43 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227A9B@main2.marlow.com>

You can make an .mdb 'read only' through NT security.  It's not the prefered
method though.  The reason it's not prefered, is because you are actually
having Jet error out, by being denied access to the file by NT security,
instead of letting JET handle things with it's own security.  It's actually
very simple to setup Access User Level security, so that an 'admin' account
has full access, and all other users (Using the generic Admin account) have
read only access. Takes about 3 to 4 minutes to setup, and from then on, you
are letting JET handle the security.

Admittedly, NT security is a bit tighter then JET, but with the process
mentioned above, you can keep the 'secured' .mdw locally, out of reach of
the users, and thus the only way to 'hack' it, through JET, would be to use
DAO code, to goof the hash.  But NT security isn't all that secure either!
LOL

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
S. (Newport News)
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Really?  Because in this afternoon's testing I set up a test case where the
user was given only Read & Execute, List Folder Contents, and Read to the
folder containing the remote db.  That user was able to execute a select
query in datasheet view, but was not able to modify any of the entries.
That's as far as I was able to take the testing thus far.



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Mark,

  You can't do what you want through OS level security.  You need to use
Access level security.  All users, regardless of what they do once inside
the container need full rights where the directory resides and read/modify
on the MDB file itself.

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
S. (Newport News)
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:36 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Group,

I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder permissions) to
only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
database for general use that needs to link to a table in that restricted
database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the minimum necessary
to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any modifications
to the data?

Permissions:		Allow/Deny?
Full Control
Modify
Read & Execute
List Folder Contents
Read
Write


TIA,

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Apr  7 17:15:27 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 17:15:27 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227A9C@main2.marlow.com>

Not true.  When you link a table, an .ldb is created for both the FE and BE,
when it's being used.  (You are accessing the data, right?)  The .ldb on the
backend isn't 'created' until the linked table is used, though, which is why
a lot of developers create a 'permanent' link process, to maintain the
connection to the backend.  That can speed up a lot of things in a FE/BE
scenario.

Drew

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:31 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


You don't need Full Control if you are linking to an MDB in another
location.  Your rights to the tables in that MDB are controlled by your OS
rights to the folder it is in.  No LDB gets opened at all for the MDB you
are linked to in this case.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
ranthony at wrsystems.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:13 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


I think this is correct.  I was going to agree with Jim on full control is
needed so the user can write to the .ldb, but your testing seems to bear
this out.  Our system is setup so that users have full control on the
folders and I use Access security within that.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher

Really?  Because in this afternoon's testing I set up a test case where the
user was given only Read & Execute, List Folder Contents, and Read to the
folder containing the remote db.  That user was able to execute a select
query in datasheet view, but was not able to modify any of the entries.
That's as far as I was able to take the testing thus far.



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Mark,

  You can't do what you want through OS level security.  You need to use
Access level security.  All users, regardless of what they do once inside
the container need full rights where the directory resides and read/modify
on the MDB file itself.

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark S.
(Newport News)
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:36 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Group,

I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder permissions) to
only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
database for general use that needs to link to a table in that restricted
database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the minimum necessary
to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any modifications
to the data?

Permissions:		Allow/Deny?
Full Control
Modify
Read & Execute
List Folder Contents
Read
Write


TIA,

Mark
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From my.lists at verizon.net  Wed Apr  7 17:42:27 2004
From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia)
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 15:42:27 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] MS Access 2003 Gotchas
Message-ID: <407483D3.3070508@verizon.net>

... so I have Access 97 and Access 2000, when I installed .Net 2003, it 
somehow blew away my rights to access the damn CodeLibrary unless I 
stick the stupid 2000 ODE disc in the drive.  anyhow, that's not my 
question.  There are behavioral diffrences in 97 and 2000 in the manner 
that a form will behave when it is displayed in datasheet view, 
Originally I thought it was the ADP causing this, but later found out 
that it appears to just be a 2000 thing (strangley I've never 
encountered it before). what I'm talking about is when you filter out a 
continous form OR datasheet on say column 1 then you wish to modify the 
data in column one you loose your filter when you attempt to modify or 
enter data to that column, unfiltered/unsorted columns are fine.

so I want to test if Access 2003 will yield this same problem, but I 
don't want to be up a creek w/o a paddle and have problems w/ the 
installation when installing 2003.  I remember before people mentioning 
the potential gotchas when going A2000/2002 w/ VBE.


Thanks,


-- 
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Apr  7 17:36:10 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 15:36:10 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
References: <20040407113603.ZBNV1763.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <4074825A.7040303@shaw.ca>

You can put your source code in Escrow, if you don't want to release it 
to companies even with a NDA

You shouldn't use your lawyer as an escrow software agent, an 
independant escrow agent  will act impartially, and that would be 
impossible for a lawyer who was also representing either the supplier or 
the user. Also a lawyer whose client is buying an operating business 
should insist that the buyer has the right to cancel if due diligence 
reveals that continued maintenance and support for critical software is 
not assured in some way, such as a software escrow

Here is a brief explanation of how software escrow works.
http://www.softescrow.com/faq.html#1.0
or
http://www.escrowassociates.com/agreements.htm
http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-6298_11-5088773.html?fromtm=e101

Susan Harkins wrote:

>If I went the MS way, what would my clients do if I was hit by a bus
>tomorrow?
>
>============That's a good point, but to me, it's kind of like expecting a
>chef to give you his recipe. Of course, if the market eventually forces it,
>that's OK with me. I'm not against it.
>
>Susan H. 
>
>  
>

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Apr  7 18:43:32 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 18:43:32 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Access2k - Move ODBC option in dropdown
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227AA0@main2.marlow.com>

WARNING WARNING WARNING! BE VERY CAREFUL WHEN DOING THIS!

Your post raised my curiousity.  I knew the registry had settings to change
the order of various lists (like switching Design View and Datasheet View,
when you create a new table).  After a little futzing around in the
registry, here is what I found.  The 'Link' form that you get, when you link
a table, is not a typical dialog box.  It has to be in a wizard somewhere,
or perhaps directly in msaccess.exe.  Couldn't find it.  However, and that's
a big however, I did find where it builds the list.  There is an odd quirk
though, believe it or not, that list IS generated alphabetically.  I know
that doesn't sound right, because HTML Documents shows up after Microsoft
Foxpro, and before Paradox.  And Exchange comes after Microsoft Excel.  That
is because in the registry, it is listed as Excel, Exchange, Foxpro, HTML,
Paradox.  Which is in the right order.

There is a big catch though.  The first item on the list ISN'T in the
registry (which is Microsoft Access).  Neither is the Last.  ODBC is the
last. 

There is a way to make the ODBC item show up beneath Access though.  Under:
\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Jet\3.5\ISAM Formats you will find
the list of formats which display on that list.  Each key (well almost all
of them) have a value called CanLink, which is 01 if it is listed, and 00 if
it is not.  (Not 'CanLink' value, and it doesn't show up).  So, you could
cheat, and go through and set all of the CanLinks to 00.  I would highly
recommend that you write down which ones you changed (or export the original
registry).  But that would remove them from the list of Linkable sources,
and thus move ODBC up the list.

I know there are more keys set with 'CanLink', then are on the list, but
that is because it groups some of them together.

Also, the registry key above is for Access 97 (Jet 3.5).  If you want A2k,
you would change the 3.5 to 4.0 in the key path.

Drew

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Patricia 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:41 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Access2k - Move ODBC option in dropdown



Hi all,
When linking tables to an access database, there is a dropdown box with all
the different options for datatype. Does anyone know how to move the ODBC
option up in the list. Right now it comes up last, I would like to move it
up to 1st-3rd.

Thanks
Patti

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 04:31 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
> 
> 
> Doris,
> 
>   <<No LDB gets opened at all for the MDB you
> are linked to in this case.>>
> 
>   Yes, one always gets created anytime a user attaches to a 
> MDB file (even
> if via a linked table).  If one is not created, Access/JET defaults to
> exclusive use.
> 
> Jim Dettman
> (315) 699-3443
> jimdettman at earthlink.net
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
> Manning
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:31 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
> 
> 
> You don't need Full Control if you are linking to an MDB in another
> location.  Your rights to the tables in that MDB are 
> controlled by your OS
> rights to the folder it is in.  No LDB gets opened at all for 
> the MDB you
> are linked to in this case.
> 
> Doris Manning
> Database Administrator
> Hargrove Inc.
> www.hargroveinc.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> ranthony at wrsystems.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:13 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
> 
> 
> I think this is correct.  I was going to agree with Jim on 
> full control is
> needed so the user can write to the .ldb, but your testing 
> seems to bear
> this out.  Our system is setup so that users have full control on the
> folders and I use Access security within that.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:05 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
> 
> Really?  Because in this afternoon's testing I set up a test 
> case where the
> user was given only Read & Execute, List Folder Contents, and 
> Read to the
> folder containing the remote db.  That user was able to 
> execute a select
> query in datasheet view, but was not able to modify any of 
> the entries.
> That's as far as I was able to take the testing thus far.
> 
> 
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:56 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
> 
> 
> Mark,
> 
>   You can't do what you want through OS level security.  You 
> need to use
> Access level security.  All users, regardless of what they do 
> once inside
> the container need full rights where the directory resides 
> and read/modify
> on the MDB file itself.
> 
> Jim Dettman
> (315) 699-3443
> jimdettman at earthlink.net
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of 
> Mitsules, Mark S.
> (Newport News)
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:36 PM
> To: '[AccessD]'
> Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
> 
> 
> Group,
> 
> I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder 
> permissions) to
> only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
> database for general use that needs to link to a table in 
> that restricted
> database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the 
> minimum necessary
> to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any 
> modifications
> to the data?
> 
> Permissions:		Allow/Deny?
> Full Control
> Modify
> Read & Execute
> List Folder Contents
> Read
> Write
> 
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Mark
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Apr  7 19:27:49 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 20:27:49 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] How do I
In-Reply-To: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE4CF@TAPPEEXCH01>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPCEGOHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

That's the one.  Thanks.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] How do I


TimeValue()

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 12:03 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] How do I


Having a bit of a problem tonight.

Given #5/11/2000 3:20:00 PM#

How do I get rid of the date portion and return just the time?

I tried subtracting the clng(ThatDate) from the whole... sometimes worked
but sometimes gave me bad time (but never any date portion)

I tried dateadd("d",-clng(ThatDate),ThatDate)... That always gives me the
correct time but 12/29/1899 as the date portion if the time is in the PM.

I have a bunch of times that include the date and I need to strip the date
off the time.

John W. Colby
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Apr  7 20:04:35 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 21:04:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Emails Problems
In-Reply-To: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D55C@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>
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Yes, got one "From" MartyConnely.  The attachment is not a virus and has
databaseadvisor stuff in it.

*******
The following was in the attachment
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:16 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Emails Problems


Has anyone been receiving strange emails with attachments? I have been
getting emails for the past 2 days with txt attachments. I just received one
that said it was from AccessD.

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Apr  7 20:07:43 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 21:07:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] How do I
In-Reply-To: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKAEBAIPAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPMEGOHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Jim,

This is older data from my billing program.  I'm trying to set up a
collision checker so that as I enter times the times are checked for
collisions with existing billing records, so I really have to get rid of the
time.  TimeValue() did the trick.  Just updated those records > 1 and I'm
off and running.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 9:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] How do I


John,

  One thing you can do is continue to use the date/time field, but just
ignore the date (set them all to 0) and use Format$() for displaying the
time only.

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:03 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] How do I


Having a bit of a problem tonight.

Given #5/11/2000 3:20:00 PM#

How do I get rid of the date portion and return just the time?

I tried subtracting the clng(ThatDate) from the whole... sometimes worked
but sometimes gave me bad time (but never any date portion)

I tried dateadd("d",-clng(ThatDate),ThatDate)... That always gives me the
correct time but 12/29/1899 as the date portion if the time is in the PM.

I have a bunch of times that include the date and I need to strip the date
off the time.

John W. Colby
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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Apr  7 20:41:22 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 11:41:22 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code
Message-ID: <00ad01c41d0a$98db8be0$48619a89@DDICK>

Hello all
I managed to find in the help code for creating fields in tables. Excellent
I can see examples and general info on creating just about every field known to mankind....except Autonumber.

I am importing a DBF file with no Autonumber

The field I was going to use a PK in that file is TEXT.

So..I'm open to suggestions- convert the text field to a number field or try and add an Auutonumber field and use that

Any suggestions welcome

many thanks

Darren



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Apr  7 21:07:52 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 22:07:52 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code
In-Reply-To: <00ad01c41d0a$98db8be0$48619a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <20040408020812.VRQK1797.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I can't help with the decision, but if you're having trouble creating an
AutoNumber field, perhaps you're using the wrong keyword -- did you try
counter or autoincrement?

Susan H. 

Hello all
I managed to find in the help code for creating fields in tables. Excellent
I can see examples and general info on creating just about every field known
to mankind....except Autonumber.

I am importing a DBF file with no Autonumber

The field I was going to use a PK in that file is TEXT.

So..I'm open to suggestions- convert the text field to a number field or try
and add an Auutonumber field and use that

Any suggestions welcome

many thanks

Darren

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Apr  7 21:12:12 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 22:12:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Appointment collisions
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPEEHAHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

For anyone who has never seen the code, Lembit donated the following code
which I documented and placed into a function which checks for appointment
collisions.  I just finished building a set of two queries and a report to
display any collisions between times entered into my billing programs.  I
work on site a lot and if I don't have my laptop I keep an email open which
I then email home to myself with my hours and a brief summary of what I am
doing.  In any case I end up copying that into my billing program every few
days.  I have always "manually" checked my hours to make sure I didn't enter
times in wrong, but a simple report to tell me if I am entering overlapping
times is a must.  There is nothing more embarrassing that billing the
customer twice for the same time!

The following is the function.

Option Compare Database
Option Explicit
'.=========================================================================
'.Copyright 2001 Colby Consulting.  All rights reserved.
'.Phone        :
'.E-mail       : jcolby at colbyconsulting.com
'.=========================================================================
' DO NOT DELETE THE COMMENTS ABOVE.  All other comments in this module
' may be deleted from production code, but lines above must remain.
'--------------------------------------------------------------------------
'.Written By   : John W. Colby
'.Date Created : 12/31/2001
' Rev. History :
'.Description  :
'
' Comments     :
'.-------------------------------------------------------------------------
'.
' ADDITIONAL NOTES:
'
'FUNCTIONS SPECIFIC TO THIS APPLICATION
'
'.
'*+ Compiler directives
#Const DebugPrint = True        'TURNS ON/OFF ALL NORMAL DEBUG PRINTING
THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT
#Const DebugPrintEvent = True  'TURNS ON/OFF ALL EVENT DEBUG PRINTING
THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT
'*- Compiler directives
'*+ Module constant declaration
Private Const mcstrModuleName As String = "basApp"    'THE NAME OF THIS
MODULE
'*- Module constant declaration
'*+ Module Variable declaration
'*- Module Variable declaration

Public Function TCComputeTime(ST, ET, SD, ED, Billable, Optional
blnComputeBillable As Boolean = True) As Double
On Error GoTo Err_TCComputeTime
Dim Time As Double
    If blnComputeBillable Then
        If Billable = True Then
            Time = DateDiff("n", ST, ET) / 60
            If DateDiff("d", SD, ED) = 1 Then
               Time = Time + 24
            End If
            '   Time = Format(Time, "00.00")
            Time = Format(Time, "00.0000")
            TCComputeTime = Time
        Else
            TCComputeTime = 0
        End If
    Else
        Time = DateDiff("n", ST, ET) / 60
        If DateDiff("d", SD, ED) = 1 Then
           Time = Time + 24
        End If
        '   Time = Format(Time, "00.00")
        Time = Format(Time, "00.0000")
        TCComputeTime = Time
    End If
Exit_TCComputeTime:
Exit Function
Err_TCComputeTime:
    Select Case Err
    Case 0      '.insert Errors you wish to ignore here
        Resume Next
    Case Else   '.All other errors will trap
        Beep
        MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in Function basApp.TCComputeTime"
        Resume Exit_TCComputeTime
    End Select
    Resume 0    '.FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function

'Comments  :
'Parameters:
'Sets      :
'Returns   :   CURRENT TIME ROUNDED UP OR DOWN TO 10 MINUTE INTERVALS
'Created by: Colby Consulting
'Created   : 9/29/98 11:00:35 AM
Function ccRoundTimeOld(Optional intRoundInterval As Integer = 10)
On Error GoTo Err_ccRoundTime

Dim dtmTime As Date          'HOLDS THE CURRENT TIME FOR MANIPULATION
Dim intMin As Integer        'MINUTE PORTION OF THE TIME VALUE
Dim intTarget As Integer   'TARGET MINUTES TO ROUND TO
Dim intBillRound As Integer   '1/2 THE INTERVAL
Dim intRoundAmt As Integer 'THE AMOUNT TO ROUND UP OR DOWN


   intBillRound = intRoundInterval / 2
   dtmTime = Time()
   intMin = DatePart("n", dtmTime)

   'ADD THE BILL INTERVAL TO ZERO UNTIL IT IS JUST UNDER THE MINUTES
   Do While intTarget + intRoundInterval <= intMin
      intTarget = intTarget + intRoundInterval
   Loop

   'FIGURE OUT IF WE'RE OVER OR UNDER THE HALF WAY POINT OF THE BILL
INTERVAL
   'AND ADD OR SUBTRACT THE CORRECT AMOUNT AS NEEDED
   If intMin - intTarget >= intBillRound Then
      intTarget = intTarget + intRoundInterval
      intRoundAmt = intTarget - intMin
      dtmTime = DateAdd("n", intRoundAmt, dtmTime)
   Else
      intRoundAmt = intTarget - intMin
      dtmTime = DateAdd("n", intRoundAmt, dtmTime)
   End If

   'ROUND OFF THE SECONDS TO ZERO
   dtmTime = DatePart("h", dtmTime) & ":" & DatePart("n", dtmTime) & ":00"

   'PASS BACK THE VALUE
   ccRoundTimeOld = dtmTime

Exit_ccRoundTime:
Exit Function

Err_ccRoundTime:
   Select Case Err
   Case 0      'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
      Resume Next
   Case Else   'All other errors will trap
      Beep
      MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in function Module1.ccRoundTime"
   Resume Exit_ccRoundTime
   End Select
   Resume 0 'FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function

Function ccRoundTime(ByVal varTime As Variant, Optional ByVal intRound As
Integer = 10) As Variant

' ccRoundTime returns varTime rounded to hours and minutes by intRound.
' intRound is the rounding value in minutes.
'
' Examples:
' ccRoundTime(#15:52:30#,15) returns 15:45:00.
' ccRoundTime(varTime,120) returns varTime rounded to even hours.
' ccRoundTime(varTime,6) returns varTime rounded to tens of an hour.
'
' (c) 1997, Cactus Data ApS, Copenhagen.
' May be freely used or modified.

On Error GoTo Err_ccRoundTime
' Limit intRound to minut count for one day.
intRound = intRound Mod (24 * 60)

If IsDate(varTime) And (intRound > 0) Then
    ' Round seconds to minutes.
    varTime = TimeSerial(Hour(varTime), Minute(varTime),
CInt(Second(varTime) / 60) * 60)
    ' Return varTime rounded by intRound using hours calculated as minutes.
    ccRoundTime = TimeSerial(0, CInt((Hour(varTime) * 60 + Minute(varTime))
/ intRound) * intRound, 0)
Else
    ' Return varTime as is.
    ccRoundTime = varTime
End If

Exit_ccRoundTime:
    Exit Function

Err_ccRoundTime:
    ccRoundTime = 0
    Resume Exit_ccRoundTime

End Function

Function C2DbPopulateInvLI(frm As Form, strSQL As String)
On Error GoTo Err_C2DbPopulateInvLI
    MsgBox "strsql"
Exit_C2DbPopulateInvLI:
Exit Function
Err_C2DbPopulateInvLI:
    Select Case Err
    Case 0      '.insert Errors you wish to ignore here
        Resume Next
    Case Else   '.All other errors will trap
        Beep
        MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in Function
basApp.C2DbPopulateInvLI"
        Resume Exit_C2DbPopulateInvLI
    End Select
    Resume 0    '.FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function

'Comments  :    THANKS TO LEMBIT SOOBIK
'there is a 'simple' equation which defines a conflict in appointments:
'let's name the starting point of an existing appointment Se, endpoint Ee
'and for the new appointment to be tested the starting point St, endpoint Et
'now you can simply check
'
'If St < Ee AND Et > Se
'
'then you have a conflict.
'you can easily visualize that by following drawing
'
'_________Se______Ee______
'1_St__Et
'2_St_________Et
'3_St__________________Et
'4___________St_Et
'5___________St________Et
'6_____________________St__Et
'
'As you can see, only cases 2, 3, 4, 5 have a conflict. case 1 does not have
a conflict because it ends before the existing one starts (Et < Se) and 6
does not have a conflict since it starts after the existing ends (St > Ee.
'
'Parameters:
'Sets      :
'Returns   :
'Created by: Colby Consulting
'Created   : 6/25/99 11:43:56 AM
Function ccApptCollision(IDNew As Long, dtmSTNew As Date, dtmETNew As Date,
_
                        IDExist As Long, dtmSTExist As Date, dtmETExist As
Date) As Boolean
On Error GoTo Err_ccApptCollision
#If boolELE Then
    Call gProcStack.EnterProc("ccApptCollision", "Module1")
#End If

    'CHECK IF WE ARE COMPARING A RECORD TO ITSELF
    If IDNew = IDExist Then
        ccApptCollision = False
        Exit Function
    End If

    'CHECK FOR COLLISIONS
    If (dtmSTNew < dtmETExist) And (dtmETNew > dtmSTExist) Then
        ccApptCollision = True
    Else
        ccApptCollision = False
    End If

Exit_ccApptCollision:
#If boolELE Then
    Call gProcStack.ExitProc("ccApptCollision")
#End If
Exit Function

Err_ccApptCollision:
#If boolELE Then
    WriteErrorLog Err
#End If
    Select Case Err
    Case 0      'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
        Resume Next
    Case Else   'All other errors will trap
        Beep
        MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in function
Module1.ccApptCollision"
    Resume Exit_ccApptCollision
    End Select
    Resume 0    'FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function

**********

In my billing I keep the time and date separate.  I then build a query where
I drop the time table in twice, join on the date, then add the time and date
fields into a single value and pass them into the parameters of the function
above as well as the time record IDs from the two records.  Out pops a true
/ false value that tells me if I have a collision.  You can actually do the
same without any join but the result set can get huge in a hurry so you will
need to limit the date ranges.

Again, thanks to Lembit for the logic.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Apr  7 21:23:29 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 22:23:29 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Appointment collisions
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPEEHAHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPMEHAHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Lets try that again.  I got a couple of other functions in the first email


For anyone who has never seen the code, Lembit donated the following code
which I documented and placed into a function which checks for appointment
collisions.  I just finished building a set of two queries and a report to
display any collisions between times entered into my billing programs.  I
work on site a lot and if I don't have my laptop I keep an email open which
I then email home to myself with my hours and a brief summary of what I am
doing.  In any case I end up copying that into my billing program every few
days.  I have always "manually" checked my hours to make sure I didn't enter
times in wrong, but a simple report to tell me if I am entering overlapping
times is a must.  There is nothing more embarrassing that billing the
customer twice for the same time!

The following is the function.

'Comments  :    THANKS TO LEMBIT SOOBIK
'there is a 'simple' equation which defines a conflict in appointments:
'let's name the starting point of an existing appointment Se, endpoint Ee
'and for the new appointment to be tested the starting point St, endpoint Et
'now you can simply check
'
'If St < Ee AND Et > Se
'
'then you have a conflict.
'you can easily visualize that by following drawing
'
'_________Se______Ee______
'1_St__Et
'2_St_________Et
'3_St__________________Et
'4___________St_Et
'5___________St________Et
'6_____________________St__Et
'
'As you can see, only cases 2, 3, 4, 5 have a conflict. case 1 does not have
a conflict because it ends before the existing one starts (Et < Se) and 6
does not have a conflict since it starts after the existing ends (St > Ee.
'
'Parameters:
'Sets      :
'Returns   :
'Created by: Colby Consulting
'Created   : 6/25/99 11:43:56 AM
Function ccApptCollision(IDNew As Long, dtmSTNew As Date, dtmETNew As Date,
_
                        IDExist As Long, dtmSTExist As Date, dtmETExist As
Date) As Boolean
On Error GoTo Err_ccApptCollision
#If boolELE Then
    Call gProcStack.EnterProc("ccApptCollision", "Module1")
#End If

    'CHECK IF WE ARE COMPARING A RECORD TO ITSELF
    If IDNew = IDExist Then
        ccApptCollision = False
        Exit Function
    End If

    'CHECK FOR COLLISIONS
    If (dtmSTNew < dtmETExist) And (dtmETNew > dtmSTExist) Then
        ccApptCollision = True
    Else
        ccApptCollision = False
    End If

Exit_ccApptCollision:
#If boolELE Then
    Call gProcStack.ExitProc("ccApptCollision")
#End If
Exit Function

Err_ccApptCollision:
#If boolELE Then
    WriteErrorLog Err
#End If
    Select Case Err
    Case 0      'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
        Resume Next
    Case Else   'All other errors will trap
        Beep
        MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in function
Module1.ccApptCollision"
    Resume Exit_ccApptCollision
    End Select
    Resume 0    'FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function

**********

In my billing I keep the time and date separate.  I then build a query where
I drop the time table in twice, join on the date, then add the time and date
fields into a single value and pass them into the parameters of the function
above as well as the time record IDs from the two records.  Out pops a true
/ false value that tells me if I have a collision.  You can actually do the
same without any join but the result set can get huge in a hurry so you will
need to limit the date ranges.

Again, thanks to Lembit for the logic.
John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com




From DaveSharpe2 at cox.net  Wed Apr  7 21:47:40 2004
From: DaveSharpe2 at cox.net (Dave Sharpe)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 22:47:40 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code
References: <00ad01c41d0a$98db8be0$48619a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <002001c41d13$dc7a4040$dd2f0a44@bcsrkeext6137>

Darren

I think that this should help

http://www.mvps.org/access/tables/tbl0016.htm

Dave

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darren DICK" <d.dick at uws.edu.au>
To: "AccessD List" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 9:41 PM
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code


> Hello all
> I managed to find in the help code for creating fields in tables.
Excellent
> I can see examples and general info on creating just about every field
known to mankind....except Autonumber.
>
> I am importing a DBF file with no Autonumber
>
> The field I was going to use a PK in that file is TEXT.
>
> So..I'm open to suggestions- convert the text field to a number field or
try and add an Auutonumber field and use that
>
> Any suggestions welcome
>
> many thanks
>
> Darren
>
> -- 
> _______________________________________________
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com



From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Apr  7 21:57:21 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 19:57:21 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Linking speeds
In-Reply-To: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227A9C@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIMEIPCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi All:

I seldom use 'bound' forms in Access...SQL and Oracles work better 'unbound'
but this is not the question or a provocation.

I am having a 'bound' problem with a slow connection/linking from the FE to
the BE. The users do not seem concerned but the initial connection times
seem unreasonable long. Some messages have been posted to this issue on the
list but I missed them.

Would anyone know how to speed up linking time? (Access2002)

TIA
Jim



From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Apr  7 22:14:29 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 13:14:29 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved
References: <00ad01c41d0a$98db8be0$48619a89@DDICK>
	<002001c41d13$dc7a4040$dd2f0a44@bcsrkeext6137>
Message-ID: <010501c41d17$9b574e60$48619a89@DDICK>

Hi Dave
That was it
It seems you can't create an autonumber from code
You first create a  number field then change the attributes
of that newly created field to  (drum roll)  ***dbAutoIncrField***
Then that tells access it's an Autonumber

No wonder the help wasn't
I wouldn't have discovered/figured this by myself in a million years.
Many many thanks

and many thanks to those who responded

(I was just going through variations on Susan's suggestion when your post came in)

This list is brilliant

Darren


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Sharpe" <DaveSharpe2 at cox.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code


> Darren
> 
> I think that this should help
> 
> http://www.mvps.org/access/tables/tbl0016.htm
> 
> Dave
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Darren DICK" <d.dick at uws.edu.au>
> To: "AccessD List" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 9:41 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code
> 
> 
> > Hello all
> > I managed to find in the help code for creating fields in tables.
> Excellent
> > I can see examples and general info on creating just about every field
> known to mankind....except Autonumber.
> >
> > I am importing a DBF file with no Autonumber
> >
> > The field I was going to use a PK in that file is TEXT.
> >
> > So..I'm open to suggestions- convert the text field to a number field or
> try and add an Auutonumber field and use that
> >
> > Any suggestions welcome
> >
> > many thanks
> >
> > Darren
> >
> > -- 
> > _______________________________________________
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> -- 
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> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com


From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Apr  8 01:23:24 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 23:23:24 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] MS product deployment through an IIS server
In-Reply-To: <010501c41d17$9b574e60$48619a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIAEJBCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi All:

Does anyone know the method or where to get information on deploying an
application through an IIS server (version 5plus) via your web browser. My
understanding is that all MS products can be ran in this way. I have been
looking at one application, Outlook, that is ran through an IIS server, from
work and can pick up and respond to the mail messages as if I was
there...eliminates the need for hotmail and the like.

If this is so, and the applications do not require a complete re-write, it
opens up an interesting set of possibilities.

TIA
Jim




From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr  8 07:38:15 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 08:38:15 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Linking speeds
References: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIMEIPCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <001901c41d66$5cb80510$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

Jim ...did you check the dba archives? ...this has several possible causes
and solutions that have been covered extensively :)

Political advertising is the price of our chains ...my name is William
Hindman and I approve this message :)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Lawrence (AccessD)" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:57 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Linking speeds


> Hi All:
>
> I seldom use 'bound' forms in Access...SQL and Oracles work better
'unbound'
> but this is not the question or a provocation.
>
> I am having a 'bound' problem with a slow connection/linking from the FE
to
> the BE. The users do not seem concerned but the initial connection times
> seem unreasonable long. Some messages have been posted to this issue on
the
> list but I missed them.
>
> Would anyone know how to speed up linking time? (Access2002)
>
> TIA
> Jim
>
> -- 
> _______________________________________________
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>




From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Apr  8 09:30:18 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 14:30:18 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Linking speeds
Message-ID: <20040408133015.EBA232762E6@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

The main one being to open a connection to the back-end and keep it open for
the duration of the relink, e.g.

Set dbData = DBEngine.Workspaces(0).OpenDatabase(strDataMdb)

As I can vouch, this speeds it up enormously.

--
Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



--------- Original Message --------
From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linking speeds
Date: 08/04/04 12:42

>
> Jim ...did you check the dba archives? ...this has several possible causes
> and solutions that have been covered extensively :)
>
> Political advertising is the price of our chains ...my name is William
> Hindman and I approve this message :)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: &quot;Jim Lawrence (AccessD)&quot; &lt;accessd at shaw.ca&gt;
> To: &quot;Access Developers discussion and problem solving&quot;
> &lt;accessd at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:57 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] Linking speeds
>
>
> &gt; Hi All:
> &gt;
> &gt; I seldom use 'bound' forms in Access...SQL and Oracles work better
> 'unbound'
> &gt; but this is not the question or a provocation.
> &gt;
> &gt; I am having a 'bound' problem with a slow connection/linking from the
FE
> to
> &gt; the BE. The users do not seem concerned but the initial connection
times
> &gt; seem unreasonable long. Some messages have been posted to this issue
on
> the
> &gt; list but I missed them.
> &gt;
> &gt; Would anyone know how to speed up linking time? (Access2002)
> &gt;
> &gt; TIA
> &gt; Jim
> &gt;
> &gt; --
> &gt; _______________________________________________
> &gt; AccessD mailing list
> &gt; AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> &gt; http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> &gt; Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> &gt;
>
>
> --
> _______________________________________________
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
>
>
>

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr  8 08:35:45 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 09:35:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved
In-Reply-To: <010501c41d17$9b574e60$48619a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <20040408133605.DTMV27618.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Actually, you can using SQL. So, if you don't have to use ADO/DAO, just use
SQL. On the other hand, I think you may be able to do it with ADOX? Not
positive on that one -- I know you can manipulate the field using ADOX, but
don't remember for sure about creating it. 

Susan H. 

Hi Dave
That was it
It seems you can't create an autonumber from code You first create a  number
field then change the attributes of that newly created field to  (drum roll)
***dbAutoIncrField*** Then that tells access it's an Autonumber

No wonder the help wasn't
I wouldn't have discovered/figured this by myself in a million years.
Many many thanks

and many thanks to those who responded

(I was just going through variations on Susan's suggestion when your post
came in)

This list is brilliant

Darren



From Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us  Thu Apr  8 08:46:10 2004
From: Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us (Gowey Mike W)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 07:46:10 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Removing Exit ability
Message-ID: <05EBB8A3BEB95B4F8216BE4EF486077802AA3EB5@srciml1.ds.doc.state.or.us>

 
Hi Everyone,

Could anyone please tell me how I can remove the ability for the user to
click on the X to close Access, I want them to only be able to use the
buttons I have created on the forms to exit the program.

Thanks for any help.


Mike Gowey, MCSA, A+, ACE
Team Leader - SRCI
Information Systems & Services Division





From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Apr  8 08:52:18 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 23:52:18 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved
References: <20040408133605.DTMV27618.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <008201c41d70$b6469c40$21669a89@DDICK>

Thanks Susan
I struggle - and I mean struggle - with VBA
I have seen code examples in the 2000 Developer for ADOX. It looks quite relative to VB and VBA but I think I will give it a miss.
:-))
(Thanks but no thanks - luddite here)

Have a great day and a safe Easter

Thanks again for your help

Darren

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:35 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved


> Actually, you can using SQL. So, if you don't have to use ADO/DAO, just use
> SQL. On the other hand, I think you may be able to do it with ADOX? Not
> positive on that one -- I know you can manipulate the field using ADOX, but
> don't remember for sure about creating it.
>
> Susan H.
>
> Hi Dave
> That was it
> It seems you can't create an autonumber from code You first create a  number
> field then change the attributes of that newly created field to  (drum roll)
> ***dbAutoIncrField*** Then that tells access it's an Autonumber
>
> No wonder the help wasn't
> I wouldn't have discovered/figured this by myself in a million years.
> Many many thanks
>
> and many thanks to those who responded
>
> (I was just going through variations on Susan's suggestion when your post
> came in)
>
> This list is brilliant
>
> Darren
>
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr  8 08:54:30 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 09:54:30 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved
In-Reply-To: <008201c41d70$b6469c40$21669a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <20040408135450.EGRN27618.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Chicken. ;) ... And thank you -- will be stuffing eggs before the day is
through -- and have a great weekend yourself! :) 

I haven't had a peep yet -- not one. 

FWIW, if you don't get this resolved I'd be glad to hand over the exact code
-- I have it somewhere, just a matter of finding it. :) 

Susan H. 

Thanks Susan
I struggle - and I mean struggle - with VBA I have seen code examples in the
2000 Developer for ADOX. It looks quite relative to VB and VBA but I think I
will give it a miss.
:-))
(Thanks but no thanks - luddite here)

Have a great day and a safe Easter

Thanks again for your help

Darren




From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Apr  8 09:01:42 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 00:01:42 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Removing Exit ability
References: <05EBB8A3BEB95B4F8216BE4EF486077802AA3EB5@srciml1.ds.doc.state.or.us>
Message-ID: <009401c41d72$061b34a0$21669a89@DDICK>

Hi Mike
In the property sheet of you form
Have a look on the FORMAT tab (The first one)
About half way down Under Max and Min options is the option to Set the Close button
Yes = There is on
No = There aint one (well there is but it's disabled)

oops Just re-read your post You wanna apply this to Access not a form

When the dB starts have a form open with its visible property set to false
docmd.OpenForm "frmYourFormNameHere",acNormal ,,,,acHidden
Then on the Unload event of that hidden form have something like this

Private Sub Form_Unload(Cancel As Integer)

On Error GoTo Err_Form_Unload

    If MsgBox("Are you sure you want to CLOSE 'the name of your application here' completely?", vbQuestion + vbYesNo, "Close 'Name
of Your Application Name here?") = vbYes Then
        DoCmd.Quit acQuitSaveAll
    Else
        Cancel = true
    End If

Exit_Form_Unload:
Exit Sub

Err_Form_Unload:
MsgBox Err.Number & "  " & Err.Description, vbCritical, "Error in Form_Unload module"
Resume Exit_Form_Unload

End sub

Hope this helps

Darren

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gowey Mike W" <Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:46 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Removing Exit ability


>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> Could anyone please tell me how I can remove the ability for the user to
> click on the X to close Access, I want them to only be able to use the
> buttons I have created on the forms to exit the program.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
>
> Mike Gowey, MCSA, A+, ACE
> Team Leader - SRCI
> Information Systems & Services Division
>
>
>
> -- 
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> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr  8 09:08:13 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 10:08:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Removing Exit ability
In-Reply-To: <05EBB8A3BEB95B4F8216BE4EF486077802AA3EB5@srciml1.ds.doc.state.or.us>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPAEHFHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Access cannot close if it cannot close all forms.

1) In the form with your button, create a boolean variable in the code
header.
2) In the form Open set the boolean false - in fact it will already be false
but still... that's the theory.
3) In the form's Unload check if the bln is true and if not set cancel =
true.  This prevents the form closing thus prevents Access closing.
4) In the command button to close the form, set the boolean true (allow the
close) then run the code that closes Access.

dim blnAllowClose as boolean

Private Sub Form_Open(Cancel As Integer)
    	blnAllowClose =false
End Sub

Private Sub Form_Unload(Cancel As Integer)
    	if blnAllowClose = false then
		cancel = true
    	end if
End Sub

Private Sub cmdClose_Click()
On Error GoTo Err_cmdClose_Click

	blnAllowClose = true
	Application.Quit acQuitSaveNone

Exit_cmdClose_Click:
    Exit Sub

Err_cmdClose_Click:
    MsgBox Err.Description
    Resume Exit_cmdClose_Click

End Sub

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 9:46 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Removing Exit ability



Hi Everyone,

Could anyone please tell me how I can remove the ability for the user to
click on the X to close Access, I want them to only be able to use the
buttons I have created on the forms to exit the program.

Thanks for any help.


Mike Gowey, MCSA, A+, ACE
Team Leader - SRCI
Information Systems & Services Division



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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Apr  8 09:16:42 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 00:16:42 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved
References: <20040408135450.EGRN27618.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <00a501c41d74$1eed3350$21669a89@DDICK>

Chicken - yes
I have people here wanting me to Learn ASP and PHP pronto, but I don't wanna (says he, stamping his foot)

Thanks again
I did get it solved using the create Number method then changing the attributes of the number data type to 
something very similar to what you described in one 
of your original posts

BTW - you gonna share the splenda choc chip recipe with the list? :-))

Darren


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:54 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved


> Chicken. ;) ... And thank you -- will be stuffing eggs before the day is
> through -- and have a great weekend yourself! :) 
> 
> I haven't had a peep yet -- not one. 
> 
> FWIW, if you don't get this resolved I'd be glad to hand over the exact code
> -- I have it somewhere, just a matter of finding it. :) 
> 
> Susan H. 
> 
> Thanks Susan
> I struggle - and I mean struggle - with VBA I have seen code examples in the
> 2000 Developer for ADOX. It looks quite relative to VB and VBA but I think I
> will give it a miss.
> :-))
> (Thanks but no thanks - luddite here)
> 
> Have a great day and a safe Easter
> 
> Thanks again for your help
> 
> Darren
> 
> 
> -- 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr  8 09:18:58 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 10:18:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved
In-Reply-To: <00a501c41d74$1eed3350$21669a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <20040408141918.EHLH17967.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>


BTW - you gonna share the splenda choc chip recipe with the list? :-))

Arrggg -- I'd get blasted by the moderators. I'll post it at the web site.
:) 

Susan H. 



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr  8 09:33:51 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 10:33:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Tivo Series1 upgrades
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPOEHFHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

In case anyone is interested, I do hard drive upgrades to TIVOs.  Anyone
interested in getting their TIVO upgraded contact me off line @
jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr  8 09:33:51 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 10:33:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved
In-Reply-To: <20040408141918.EHLH17967.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPAEHGHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Hey, splenda chocolate chip recipes are definitely on topic for a group of
Access developers!

;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:19 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved



BTW - you gonna share the splenda choc chip recipe with the list? :-))

Arrggg -- I'd get blasted by the moderators. I'll post it at the web site.
:)

Susan H.

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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Apr  8 09:45:44 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 00:45:44 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved
References: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPAEHGHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <00c101c41d78$2ce6f0f0$21669a89@DDICK>

Outstanding
Coffee and Chocolate - a developers feast
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 12:33 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved


> Hey, splenda chocolate chip recipes are definitely on topic for a group of
> Access developers!
> 
> ;-)
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:19 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved
> 
> 
> 
> BTW - you gonna share the splenda choc chip recipe with the list? :-))
> 
> Arrggg -- I'd get blasted by the moderators. I'll post it at the web site.
> :)
> 
> Susan H.
> 
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> 
> 
> 
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Apr  8 10:41:58 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 15:41:58 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved
Message-ID: <20040408144155.4A95D25E248@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Quick, while the moderators' backs are turned. (Well it is nearly Friday,
and Good Friday at that.)
--
Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



--------- Original Message --------
From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved
Date: 08/04/04 14:36

>
> Hey, splenda chocolate chip recipes are definitely on topic for a group of
> Access developers!
>
> ;-)
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:19 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved
>
>
>
> BTW - you gonna share the splenda choc chip recipe with the list? :-))
>
> Arrggg -- I'd get blasted by the moderators. I'll post it at the web site.
> :)
>
> Susan H.
>
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>
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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Thu Apr  8 09:54:15 2004
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 10:54:15 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Access DLL Weirdness
Message-ID: <806536912C472E4A9D6515DF2E57261E2397AD@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Hi All,

I installed Office 2000 Pre about a year ago on my PC.
Everything has worked perfectly up until two weeks ago.
I started to get errors that indicated a database communication failure.
For example: "Method 'Recordset' of object '_Form_frmTNCOComputers' failed"

Because this problem only occurred during VBA code execute and not on bound
forms that have no code, I assumed it was a reference problem.
I checked my references and DAO3.6 was not referenced! Weird! So when I
tried to reference it, I received and error message or "Error loading DLL".
Upon investigate it appears the reference was looking for dao360.dll in
C:\Windows\system32 (I am using WinXP Pro), which is strange because the DAO
files are in C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\DAO.

When I check other installations of Access 2000 on other computers the
reference points to the correct place.

Anyone have any ideas on would cause this?
Also, how do I remove the incorrect reference location before I reregister
the dll from the proper location?

Thanks,
Joe Rojas




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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Apr  8 09:53:55 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 07:53:55 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Linking speeds
In-Reply-To: <001901c41d66$5cb80510$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIIEJDCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Williams

I did a cursory look but did not find anything specific but I will try
again.

Thanks
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of William
Hindman
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 5:38 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linking speeds


Jim ...did you check the dba archives? ...this has several possible causes
and solutions that have been covered extensively :)

Political advertising is the price of our chains ...my name is William
Hindman and I approve this message :)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Lawrence (AccessD)" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:57 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Linking speeds


> Hi All:
>
> I seldom use 'bound' forms in Access...SQL and Oracles work better
'unbound'
> but this is not the question or a provocation.
>
> I am having a 'bound' problem with a slow connection/linking from the FE
to
> the BE. The users do not seem concerned but the initial connection times
> seem unreasonable long. Some messages have been posted to this issue on
the
> list but I missed them.
>
> Would anyone know how to speed up linking time? (Access2002)
>
> TIA
> Jim
>
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From Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us  Thu Apr  8 10:06:50 2004
From: Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us (Gowey Mike W)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 09:06:50 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Removing Exit ability
Message-ID: <05EBB8A3BEB95B4F8216BE4EF486077802AA3EBA@srciml1.ds.doc.state.or.us>

Thank you Colby that works like a charm. 


Mike Gowey, MCSA, A+, ACE
Team Leader - SRCI
Information Systems & Services Division

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 8:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Removing Exit ability

Access cannot close if it cannot close all forms.

1) In the form with your button, create a boolean variable in the code
header.
2) In the form Open set the boolean false - in fact it will already be
false but still... that's the theory.
3) In the form's Unload check if the bln is true and if not set cancel =
true.  This prevents the form closing thus prevents Access closing.
4) In the command button to close the form, set the boolean true (allow
the
close) then run the code that closes Access.

dim blnAllowClose as boolean

Private Sub Form_Open(Cancel As Integer)
    	blnAllowClose =false
End Sub

Private Sub Form_Unload(Cancel As Integer)
    	if blnAllowClose = false then
		cancel = true
    	end if
End Sub

Private Sub cmdClose_Click()
On Error GoTo Err_cmdClose_Click

	blnAllowClose = true
	Application.Quit acQuitSaveNone

Exit_cmdClose_Click:
    Exit Sub

Err_cmdClose_Click:
    MsgBox Err.Description
    Resume Exit_cmdClose_Click

End Sub

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 9:46 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Removing Exit ability



Hi Everyone,

Could anyone please tell me how I can remove the ability for the user to
click on the X to close Access, I want them to only be able to use the
buttons I have created on the forms to exit the program.

Thanks for any help.


Mike Gowey, MCSA, A+, ACE
Team Leader - SRCI
Information Systems & Services Division



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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 11:13:07 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Your document
Message-ID: <200404081513.i38FD3B15984@databaseadvisors.com>


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr  8 10:26:43 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 11:26:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Removing Exit ability
In-Reply-To: <05EBB8A3BEB95B4F8216BE4EF486077802AA3EBA@srciml1.ds.doc.state.or.us>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPIEHHHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Always welcome!

John W. Colby 
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Removing Exit ability


Thank you Colby that works like a charm. 


Mike Gowey, MCSA, A+, ACE
Team Leader - SRCI
Information Systems & Services Division

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 8:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Removing Exit ability

Access cannot close if it cannot close all forms.

1) In the form with your button, create a boolean variable in the code
header.
2) In the form Open set the boolean false - in fact it will already be
false but still... that's the theory.
3) In the form's Unload check if the bln is true and if not set cancel =
true.  This prevents the form closing thus prevents Access closing.
4) In the command button to close the form, set the boolean true (allow
the
close) then run the code that closes Access.

dim blnAllowClose as boolean

Private Sub Form_Open(Cancel As Integer)
    	blnAllowClose =false
End Sub

Private Sub Form_Unload(Cancel As Integer)
    	if blnAllowClose = false then
		cancel = true
    	end if
End Sub

Private Sub cmdClose_Click()
On Error GoTo Err_cmdClose_Click

	blnAllowClose = true
	Application.Quit acQuitSaveNone

Exit_cmdClose_Click:
    Exit Sub

Err_cmdClose_Click:
    MsgBox Err.Description
    Resume Exit_cmdClose_Click

End Sub

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 9:46 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Removing Exit ability



Hi Everyone,

Could anyone please tell me how I can remove the ability for the user to
click on the X to close Access, I want them to only be able to use the
buttons I have created on the forms to exit the program.

Thanks for any help.


Mike Gowey, MCSA, A+, ACE
Team Leader - SRCI
Information Systems & Services Division



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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Apr  8 10:31:12 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 08:31:12 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Odd messages in List
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8632C52E@infoserver01.infostat.local>

What is going on with the "Re: Your Document" messages I'm seeing in the
list, complete with test attachment and a body of 

"Hi!
Please read the attached document."

It's surprising my spam filters aren't screening this, since it
certainly looks like junk mail to me.

Charlotte Foust


From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Thu Apr  8 10:35:39 2004
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 16:35:39 +0100 
Subject: [AccessD] Remove non-alphanumeric characters
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C07B@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>

Good afternoon all!

I have a requirement to strip a string of all non-alphanumeric characters.
In addition I wanted to change all upper-case characters to lower-case. I
could not find any ready-rolled solution so I've come up with the code
below.

Can anyone think of a more simple way of doing this?

Regards!

Chris Foote (UK)

------------(Code snippet begin)-------------



'--------------------------------------------------------------
' This piece of (almost) original code is based upon M$
' Knowledge Base Article 99938. It removes all non-alphanumeric
' characters from a string. It also converts upper-case letters
' to their lower-case versions. It works by converting the
' incoming characters into the ASCII equivalent checking
' to verify what they are and then converting them back again.
' Chris Foote 08/04/04
'--------------------------------------------------------------
Dim strClean As String
Dim intPos As Integer
Dim strMixed As String
Dim intMixed As Integer

intPos = 1

If IsNull(spAlphaNum) Then Exit Function

For intPos = 1 To Len(spAlphaNum)
    intMixed = Asc(Mid(spAlphaNum, intPos, 1))
        Select Case intMixed
            Case 48 To 57   ' Numeric
                strClean = strClean + Chr(intMixed)
            Case 65 To 90   ' Uppercase Alpha
                strClean = strClean + Chr(intMixed + 32)
            Case 97 To 122   ' Lowercase Alpha
              strClean = strClean + Chr(intMixed)
            Case Else
            
        End Select
Next intPos

fctRemNonAlpha = strClean

End Function


From djkr at msn.com  Thu Apr  8 10:40:40 2004
From: djkr at msn.com (DJK(John) Robinson)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 16:40:40 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Odd messages in List
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8632C52E@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <000201c41d7f$d8945b70$3500a8c0@dabsight>

Hi Charlotte

I'm not getting any messages like that.  They are almost certainly not
really from the list at all, but are viruses spoofing the sender address
(common these days).  Someone on the list, past or present, has the
virus/worm.

John


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Charlotte Foust
> Sent: 08 April 2004 16:31
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Odd messages in List
> 
> 
> What is going on with the "Re: Your Document" messages I'm 
> seeing in the list, complete with test attachment and a body of 
> 
> "Hi!
> Please read the attached document."
> 
> It's surprising my spam filters aren't screening this, since 
> it certainly looks like junk mail to me.
> 
> Charlotte Foust
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From my.lists at verizon.net  Thu Apr  8 10:47:11 2004
From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia)
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 08:47:11 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Odd messages in List
In-Reply-To: <000201c41d7f$d8945b70$3500a8c0@dabsight>
References: <000201c41d7f$d8945b70$3500a8c0@dabsight>
Message-ID: <407573FF.7050809@verizon.net>

I found in my "hotmail" account a returned message that was being 
reported as having a virus to someone I know I did not send any email 
to...and it said it was from my hotmail account... most bizar.



DJK(John) Robinson said the following on 4/8/2004 8:40 AM:

>Hi Charlotte
>
>I'm not getting any messages like that.  They are almost certainly not
>really from the list at all, but are viruses spoofing the sender address
>(common these days).  Someone on the list, past or present, has the
>virus/worm.
>
>John
>
>
>  
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
>>Charlotte Foust
>>Sent: 08 April 2004 16:31
>>To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>Subject: [AccessD] Odd messages in List
>>
>>
>>What is going on with the "Re: Your Document" messages I'm 
>>seeing in the list, complete with test attachment and a body of 
>>
>>"Hi!
>>Please read the attached document."
>>
>>It's surprising my spam filters aren't screening this, since 
>>it certainly looks like junk mail to me.
>>
>>Charlotte Foust
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Apr  8 11:55:07 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 16:55:07 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Remove non-alphanumeric characters
Message-ID: <20040408155504.57EDE2A0591@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Well personally I'd find it easier to read if you just compared characters,
so. Also, as long as your Option Compare doesn't cause case-sensitive
comparisoins, you need only test for a-z once.

For intPos = 1 To Len(spAlphaNum)
strChar = Mid(spAlphaNum, intPos, 1)
Select Case strChar
Case "0" To "9"   ' Numeric
strClean = strClean + strChar
Case "a" To "z"   ' Uppercase Alpha
strClean = strClean + Ucase(strChar)
Case Else
End Select
Next intPos

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--------- Original Message --------
From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] Remove non-alphanumeric characters
Date: 08/04/04 15:39

>
> Good afternoon all!
>
> I have a requirement to strip a string of all non-alphanumeric characters.
> In addition I wanted to change all upper-case characters to lower-case. I
> could not find any ready-rolled solution so I've come up with the code
> below.
>
> Can anyone think of a more simple way of doing this?
>
> Regards!
>
> Chris Foote (UK)
>
> ------------(Code snippet begin)-------------
>
>
>
> '--------------------------------------------------------------
> ' This piece of (almost) original code is based upon M$
> ' Knowledge Base Article 99938. It removes all non-alphanumeric
> ' characters from a string. It also converts upper-case letters
> ' to their lower-case versions. It works by converting the
> ' incoming characters into the ASCII equivalent checking
> ' to verify what they are and then converting them back again.
> ' Chris Foote 08/04/04
> '--------------------------------------------------------------
> Dim strClean As String
> Dim intPos As Integer
> Dim strMixed As String
> Dim intMixed As Integer
>
> intPos = 1
>
> If IsNull(spAlphaNum) Then Exit Function
>
> For intPos = 1 To Len(spAlphaNum)
>     intMixed = Asc(Mid(spAlphaNum, intPos, 1))
>         Select Case intMixed
>             Case 48 To 57   ' Numeric
>                 strClean = strClean + Chr(intMixed)
>             Case 65 To 90   ' Uppercase Alpha
>                 strClean = strClean + Chr(intMixed + 32)
>             Case 97 To 122   ' Lowercase Alpha
>               strClean = strClean + Chr(intMixed)
>             Case Else
>
>         End Select
> Next intPos
>
> fctRemNonAlpha = strClean
>
> End Function
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From caa at highway.com.br  Thu Apr  8 11:07:05 2004
From: caa at highway.com.br (Carlos Alberto Alves)
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 13:07:05 -0300
Subject: [AccessD] Code help please
In-Reply-To: <016401c41b8f$9df9bec0$48619a89@DDICK>
References: <000001c41b85$d87c94a0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
	<016401c41b8f$9df9bec0$48619a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <opr55a13qeeuy8y3@mail.dh.com.br>

On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 14:28:31 +1000, Darren DICK <d.dick at uws.edu.au> wrote:

> Hi Joe
> Try something like this
> Under the
> Compare Database and option explicit declarations type
> gIntFormIsDirty as integer
> Then add
>
> Private Sub Form_Load()
> gIntFormIsDirty  = False
> end sub
>
> then add
>
> Private Sub Form_Dirty(Cancel As Integer)
> gIntFormIsDirty  = true
> End Sub
>
> then
>
> Private Sub ps_SomeCodeToRun()
>
> 'Joe get whatever the PK is and see if there is a value in it
>     if not isnull(Me.MyPK) then 'There is  a value so we are on a live 
> record
>         if gIntFormIsDirty  = true THEN
>             Msgbox "we are on a pre-existing record and the record is 
> dirty"
>         else
>             Msgbox "we are on a pre-existing record but the record IS 
> NOT  dirty"
>         end if
>     else
>         msgbox "We are on a 'new rec' or at least one without a PK"
>     end if
>
> end sub
>
> then in the afterupdate(or whatever) of the control to test
>
> Private sub txtLastName_AfterUpdate()
> ps_SomeCodeToRun
> end sub
>
> Hope this helps
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Hecht" <jmhla at earthlink.net>
> To: "AccessD" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 1:18 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] Code help please
>
>
>> This code is supposed to
>> 1.       Confirm this is an existing record
>> 2.       If the form is dirty
>>
>> Open a message box
>>
>> I need vb yes. I want to go to the next record.
>>
>> Can not find the right method
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>>
>> Private Sub Form_Dirty(Cancel As Integer)
>>
>>     if me.newrecord = false and
>>     If Me.Dirty Then
>>     Dim lngRetval As Long
>>
>>     lngRetval = MsgBox( _
>>         "Data on this form has changed! " & vbCrLf & "" & vbCrLf & "Do
>> you wish to continue?", _
>>         vbYesNoCancel + vbQuestion + vbSystemModal + vbDefaultButton1, _
>>         "Data Has Changed")
>>
>>     Select Case lngRetval
>>         Case vbYes
>>
>>         Add New RECORD
>>
>>         Case vbNo
>>          Forms!frmmasterAddresses!txtLastName.SetFocus
>>
>>
>>
>>         Case vbCancel
>>
>>
>>
>>     End Select
>>
>>    End If
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> End Sub
>>
>>
>>
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Would it not be 'gIntFormIsDirty as boolean'?
;-)
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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Apr  8 11:24:35 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 12:24:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Appointment collisions
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPEEHAHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKKEDJIPAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

John and all,

  For those interested in something like this, you can also do this fairly
easily in query.  I have a sample database made up to show how it's done.

  If anyone would like a copy, e-mail me off list.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:12 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Appointment collisions


For anyone who has never seen the code, Lembit donated the following code
which I documented and placed into a function which checks for appointment
collisions.  I just finished building a set of two queries and a report to
display any collisions between times entered into my billing programs.  I
work on site a lot and if I don't have my laptop I keep an email open which
I then email home to myself with my hours and a brief summary of what I am
doing.  In any case I end up copying that into my billing program every few
days.  I have always "manually" checked my hours to make sure I didn't enter
times in wrong, but a simple report to tell me if I am entering overlapping
times is a must.  There is nothing more embarrassing that billing the
customer twice for the same time!

The following is the function.

Option Compare Database
Option Explicit
'.=========================================================================
'.Copyright 2001 Colby Consulting.  All rights reserved.
'.Phone        :
'.E-mail       : jcolby at colbyconsulting.com
'.=========================================================================
' DO NOT DELETE THE COMMENTS ABOVE.  All other comments in this module
' may be deleted from production code, but lines above must remain.
'--------------------------------------------------------------------------
'.Written By   : John W. Colby
'.Date Created : 12/31/2001
' Rev. History :
'.Description  :
'
' Comments     :
'.-------------------------------------------------------------------------
'.
' ADDITIONAL NOTES:
'
'FUNCTIONS SPECIFIC TO THIS APPLICATION
'
'.
'*+ Compiler directives
#Const DebugPrint = True        'TURNS ON/OFF ALL NORMAL DEBUG PRINTING
THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT
#Const DebugPrintEvent = True  'TURNS ON/OFF ALL EVENT DEBUG PRINTING
THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT
'*- Compiler directives
'*+ Module constant declaration
Private Const mcstrModuleName As String = "basApp"    'THE NAME OF THIS
MODULE
'*- Module constant declaration
'*+ Module Variable declaration
'*- Module Variable declaration

Public Function TCComputeTime(ST, ET, SD, ED, Billable, Optional
blnComputeBillable As Boolean = True) As Double
On Error GoTo Err_TCComputeTime
Dim Time As Double
    If blnComputeBillable Then
        If Billable = True Then
            Time = DateDiff("n", ST, ET) / 60
            If DateDiff("d", SD, ED) = 1 Then
               Time = Time + 24
            End If
            '   Time = Format(Time, "00.00")
            Time = Format(Time, "00.0000")
            TCComputeTime = Time
        Else
            TCComputeTime = 0
        End If
    Else
        Time = DateDiff("n", ST, ET) / 60
        If DateDiff("d", SD, ED) = 1 Then
           Time = Time + 24
        End If
        '   Time = Format(Time, "00.00")
        Time = Format(Time, "00.0000")
        TCComputeTime = Time
    End If
Exit_TCComputeTime:
Exit Function
Err_TCComputeTime:
    Select Case Err
    Case 0      '.insert Errors you wish to ignore here
        Resume Next
    Case Else   '.All other errors will trap
        Beep
        MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in Function basApp.TCComputeTime"
        Resume Exit_TCComputeTime
    End Select
    Resume 0    '.FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function

'Comments  :
'Parameters:
'Sets      :
'Returns   :   CURRENT TIME ROUNDED UP OR DOWN TO 10 MINUTE INTERVALS
'Created by: Colby Consulting
'Created   : 9/29/98 11:00:35 AM
Function ccRoundTimeOld(Optional intRoundInterval As Integer = 10)
On Error GoTo Err_ccRoundTime

Dim dtmTime As Date          'HOLDS THE CURRENT TIME FOR MANIPULATION
Dim intMin As Integer        'MINUTE PORTION OF THE TIME VALUE
Dim intTarget As Integer   'TARGET MINUTES TO ROUND TO
Dim intBillRound As Integer   '1/2 THE INTERVAL
Dim intRoundAmt As Integer 'THE AMOUNT TO ROUND UP OR DOWN


   intBillRound = intRoundInterval / 2
   dtmTime = Time()
   intMin = DatePart("n", dtmTime)

   'ADD THE BILL INTERVAL TO ZERO UNTIL IT IS JUST UNDER THE MINUTES
   Do While intTarget + intRoundInterval <= intMin
      intTarget = intTarget + intRoundInterval
   Loop

   'FIGURE OUT IF WE'RE OVER OR UNDER THE HALF WAY POINT OF THE BILL
INTERVAL
   'AND ADD OR SUBTRACT THE CORRECT AMOUNT AS NEEDED
   If intMin - intTarget >= intBillRound Then
      intTarget = intTarget + intRoundInterval
      intRoundAmt = intTarget - intMin
      dtmTime = DateAdd("n", intRoundAmt, dtmTime)
   Else
      intRoundAmt = intTarget - intMin
      dtmTime = DateAdd("n", intRoundAmt, dtmTime)
   End If

   'ROUND OFF THE SECONDS TO ZERO
   dtmTime = DatePart("h", dtmTime) & ":" & DatePart("n", dtmTime) & ":00"

   'PASS BACK THE VALUE
   ccRoundTimeOld = dtmTime

Exit_ccRoundTime:
Exit Function

Err_ccRoundTime:
   Select Case Err
   Case 0      'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
      Resume Next
   Case Else   'All other errors will trap
      Beep
      MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in function Module1.ccRoundTime"
   Resume Exit_ccRoundTime
   End Select
   Resume 0 'FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function

Function ccRoundTime(ByVal varTime As Variant, Optional ByVal intRound As
Integer = 10) As Variant

' ccRoundTime returns varTime rounded to hours and minutes by intRound.
' intRound is the rounding value in minutes.
'
' Examples:
' ccRoundTime(#15:52:30#,15) returns 15:45:00.
' ccRoundTime(varTime,120) returns varTime rounded to even hours.
' ccRoundTime(varTime,6) returns varTime rounded to tens of an hour.
'
' (c) 1997, Cactus Data ApS, Copenhagen.
' May be freely used or modified.

On Error GoTo Err_ccRoundTime
' Limit intRound to minut count for one day.
intRound = intRound Mod (24 * 60)

If IsDate(varTime) And (intRound > 0) Then
    ' Round seconds to minutes.
    varTime = TimeSerial(Hour(varTime), Minute(varTime),
CInt(Second(varTime) / 60) * 60)
    ' Return varTime rounded by intRound using hours calculated as minutes.
    ccRoundTime = TimeSerial(0, CInt((Hour(varTime) * 60 + Minute(varTime))
/ intRound) * intRound, 0)
Else
    ' Return varTime as is.
    ccRoundTime = varTime
End If

Exit_ccRoundTime:
    Exit Function

Err_ccRoundTime:
    ccRoundTime = 0
    Resume Exit_ccRoundTime

End Function

Function C2DbPopulateInvLI(frm As Form, strSQL As String)
On Error GoTo Err_C2DbPopulateInvLI
    MsgBox "strsql"
Exit_C2DbPopulateInvLI:
Exit Function
Err_C2DbPopulateInvLI:
    Select Case Err
    Case 0      '.insert Errors you wish to ignore here
        Resume Next
    Case Else   '.All other errors will trap
        Beep
        MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in Function
basApp.C2DbPopulateInvLI"
        Resume Exit_C2DbPopulateInvLI
    End Select
    Resume 0    '.FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function

'Comments  :    THANKS TO LEMBIT SOOBIK
'there is a 'simple' equation which defines a conflict in appointments:
'let's name the starting point of an existing appointment Se, endpoint Ee
'and for the new appointment to be tested the starting point St, endpoint Et
'now you can simply check
'
'If St < Ee AND Et > Se
'
'then you have a conflict.
'you can easily visualize that by following drawing
'
'_________Se______Ee______
'1_St__Et
'2_St_________Et
'3_St__________________Et
'4___________St_Et
'5___________St________Et
'6_____________________St__Et
'
'As you can see, only cases 2, 3, 4, 5 have a conflict. case 1 does not have
a conflict because it ends before the existing one starts (Et < Se) and 6
does not have a conflict since it starts after the existing ends (St > Ee.
'
'Parameters:
'Sets      :
'Returns   :
'Created by: Colby Consulting
'Created   : 6/25/99 11:43:56 AM
Function ccApptCollision(IDNew As Long, dtmSTNew As Date, dtmETNew As Date,
_
                        IDExist As Long, dtmSTExist As Date, dtmETExist As
Date) As Boolean
On Error GoTo Err_ccApptCollision
#If boolELE Then
    Call gProcStack.EnterProc("ccApptCollision", "Module1")
#End If

    'CHECK IF WE ARE COMPARING A RECORD TO ITSELF
    If IDNew = IDExist Then
        ccApptCollision = False
        Exit Function
    End If

    'CHECK FOR COLLISIONS
    If (dtmSTNew < dtmETExist) And (dtmETNew > dtmSTExist) Then
        ccApptCollision = True
    Else
        ccApptCollision = False
    End If

Exit_ccApptCollision:
#If boolELE Then
    Call gProcStack.ExitProc("ccApptCollision")
#End If
Exit Function

Err_ccApptCollision:
#If boolELE Then
    WriteErrorLog Err
#End If
    Select Case Err
    Case 0      'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
        Resume Next
    Case Else   'All other errors will trap
        Beep
        MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in function
Module1.ccApptCollision"
    Resume Exit_ccApptCollision
    End Select
    Resume 0    'FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function

**********

In my billing I keep the time and date separate.  I then build a query where
I drop the time table in twice, join on the date, then add the time and date
fields into a single value and pass them into the parameters of the function
above as well as the time record IDs from the two records.  Out pops a true
/ false value that tells me if I have a collision.  You can actually do the
same without any join but the result set can get huge in a hurry so you will
need to limit the date ranges.

Again, thanks to Lembit for the logic.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


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From jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com  Thu Apr  8 11:47:37 2004
From: jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com (jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 11:47:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Data Types and Number of Characters
Message-ID: <OFF6F4DDF3.287AA298-ON86256E70.005BA871-86256E70.005C4027@nc.us.bank-dns.com>


Starting to become a rough day and need some help here as.

Given the various data types in access what is the maximum number of
characters for each one.  I am not asking about the storage size, but the
actual characters displayed.

I think an example would help:

An Integer has a storage size of 2 bytes but the number of characters
maximum that will be displayed is 6.

The other data types I am wondering about are:

Long
Single
Double
Currency
Decimal


Hopefully this make sense.  Thanks for any help in advance.





From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Apr  8 11:49:34 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 12:49:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] BEU Enchancement
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKEEDLIPAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Reuben, Andy, Lembit, or Bryan

  I recommended the BEU to someone and their using relinking code in their
app.  The problem is, it quits the app if a relink cannot be performed on a
table, which is the case when you add a new table via the BEU.  To help
developers around that problem, I would suggest adding a function call that
checks the BEU task list and returns True if it finds the table name.
Example:

' In relink code

If Not IsNewBEUTable(strTableName) then
   ' Relink the table
End If


' Function added to BEU.
Public Function IsNewBEUTable(strTableName as string) as integer

  ' Check BEU task table to see if strTableName is added
  ' Pass back True if found or False if not.

End Function

  I'm not sure exactly what needs to be done to actually identifiy the table
in the task list because I haven't dug deep enough, but I thought I'd pass
along the suggestion at least.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net




From becklesd at tiscali.co.uk  Thu Apr  8 11:52:08 2004
From: becklesd at tiscali.co.uk (David beckles)
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 16:52:08 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Re: AccessD Digest, Vol 14, Issue 15
In-Reply-To: <200404081625.i38GPIB13154@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <200404081625.i38GPIB13154@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <40758338.1040002@tiscali.co.uk>

Mike,
Why not take a look at Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 245746
ACC2000: How to Disable the Close Button (X) on the Access Application
Window
at
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=245746
It might be what you are looking for.


accessd-request at databaseadvisors.com wrote:

>Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 07:46:10 -0600
>From: "Gowey Mike W" <Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us>
>Subject: [AccessD] Removing Exit ability
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID:
>	<05EBB8A3BEB95B4F8216BE4EF486077802AA3EB5 at srciml1.ds.doc.state.or.us>
>Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>
> 
>Hi Everyone,
>
>Could anyone please tell me how I can remove the ability for the user to
>click on the X to close Access, I want them to only be able to use the
>buttons I have created on the forms to exit the program.
>
>Thanks for any help.
>
>
>Mike Gowey, MCSA, A+, ACE
>Team Leader - SRCI
>Information Systems & Services Division
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>


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From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca  Thu Apr  8 12:11:31 2004
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 13:11:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] BEU Enchancement
Message-ID: <s0754f89.020@cbc.ca>

I've ran across this problem, or one very similar, in the past couple of
weeks.

I won't say this is the prefered fix for it, since this is Reuben's
function, but it's what I did to make it work. Please feel free to pass
this on to the person using it:

In the beuDBAValidateBEPathnction of the basbeuDBAisdbuptodate module:

Maybe 15 lines down, or so, the line that starts, and continues on for
4 lines
strSQL = "SELECT ....

replace it with, and watch fro wrapping:

strSQL = "SELECT tblDBAModifyDatabase.ParameterValue,
tblDBAModifyDatabaseMods.HowCounter" _
    & " FROM tblDBAModifyDatabaseMods INNER JOIN tblDBAModifyDatabase
ON tblDBAModifyDatabaseMods.ModNumber = tblDBAModifyDatabase.ModNumber"
_
    & " WHERE tblDBAModifyDatabaseMods.WhatCounter=2 AND
tblDBAModifyDatabaseMods.HowCounter=2" _
    & " AND tblDBAModifyDatabaseMods.State<>-1;"

What this does is allows the link validation to take place on a table
added by the BEU as long as it's was added correctly and had it's mod
state cahnged to True.

Now, I am using an Alpha of V2, so (s)he *may* need to tweak it a bit
for V 1.58, but I don't think it will be necessary.

Bryan Carbonnell
bryan_carbonnelL at cbc.ca


>>> jimdettman at earthlink.net 08-Apr-04 12:49:34 PM >>>
Reuben, Andy, Lembit, or Bryan

  I recommended the BEU to someone and their using relinking code in
their
app.  The problem is, it quits the app if a relink cannot be performed
on a
table, which is the case when you add a new table via the BEU.  To
help
developers around that problem, I would suggest adding a function call
that
checks the BEU task list and returns True if it finds the table name.
Example:

' In relink code

If Not IsNewBEUTable(strTableName) then
   ' Relink the table
End If


' Function added to BEU.
Public Function IsNewBEUTable(strTableName as string) as integer

  ' Check BEU task table to see if strTableName is added
  ' Pass back True if found or False if not.

End Function

  I'm not sure exactly what needs to be done to actually identifiy the
table
in the task list because I haven't dug deep enough, but I thought I'd
pass
along the suggestion at least.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net 



From garykjos at hotmail.com  Thu Apr  8 12:13:15 2004
From: garykjos at hotmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 12:13:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Odd messages in List
Message-ID: <BAY2-F404eE2FGwQ21j000006d3@hotmail.com>

>>>>>I found in my "hotmail" account a returned message that was being
>reported as having a virus to someone I know I did not send any email 
>to...and it said it was from my hotmail account... most bizar. - 
>Francisco<<<<<<


I've had some of those too. Certainly a spoof or something similar. I send 
noting from this account accept to the list.

Gary Kjos
garykjos at hotmail.com

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From liz at symphonyinfo.com  Thu Apr  8 12:18:42 2004
From: liz at symphonyinfo.com (Liz Doering)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 12:18:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Data Types and Number of Characters
In-Reply-To: <OFF6F4DDF3.287AA298-ON86256E70.005BA871-86256E70.005C4027@nc.us.bank-dns.com>
Message-ID: <E1BBdAw-0002bC-00@mallard.mail.pas.earthlink.net>

Jeffrey,

This is from Access 97 help:

Byte	Stores numbers from 0 to 255 (no fractions).		1 byte
Integer	Stores numbers from -32,768 to 32,767 (no fractions).	2 bytes
Long Integer	(Default) Stores numbers from -2,147,483,648 to
2,147,483,647 (no fractions).	4 bytes
Single	Stores numbers from -3.402823E38 to -1.401298E-45 for negative
values and from 1.401298E-45 to 3.402823E38 for positive values.	4
bytes
Double	Stores numbers from -1.79769313486231E308 to -4.94065645841247E-324
for negative values and from 1.79769313486231E308 to 4.94065645841247E-324
for positive values.	8 bytes

Hope this helps,


Liz Doering
Symphony Information Services
liz at symphonyinfo.com
www.symphonyinfo.com




-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:48 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Data Types and Number of Characters


Starting to become a rough day and need some help here as.

Given the various data types in access what is the maximum number of
characters for each one.  I am not asking about the storage size, but the
actual characters displayed.

I think an example would help:

An Integer has a storage size of 2 bytes but the number of characters
maximum that will be displayed is 6.

The other data types I am wondering about are:

Long
Single
Double
Currency
Decimal


Hopefully this make sense.  Thanks for any help in advance.



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From bridgetd at biostat.umn.edu  Thu Apr  8 12:57:50 2004
From: bridgetd at biostat.umn.edu (Bridget Doran)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 12:57:50 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Query problem
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0404081256340.22020-100000@smelt.biostat.umn.edu>

Hi all -

Working in Access2K.

I am querying non-normalized data to get records where there are some
duplicate ID's. Each of these duplicate records will have a date field
called DOT. I want only the record for the earlier date in the cases where
there are duplicate ID's. But I also want all the records where there are no
duplicates. How would I query for this?

The problem I am addressing is data that has both static and changing
fields. A patient has basic demographic info as well as multiple transplants
(2 at most). What the original database did here was just added another
record with the same Patient ID and a second transplant date with new info
for many of the fields but not the static/demographic fields. The first
transplant date has the static fields.

I have only querying rights to this database and we are building a research
database that is dependent on it. So, I am attempting to build some
normalization into our research database with queries.

Thanks for any help!

Bridget Doran
Biostatistics Consulting Lab
Division of Public Health
University of Minnesota




From Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com  Thu Apr  8 13:57:18 2004
From: Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com (Jeff Barrows)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 13:57:18 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access 97 and the LDBViewer
Message-ID: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE6305003266C@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com>

I really hope that someone can help me.  I need a copy of the LDBViewer, and cannot seem to get anything from the MS site.  Could someone PLEASE email a copy to me?  (Please change the exe extension to jgb or it will not get thru to me)
 
 


From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Thu Apr  8 14:06:29 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 14:06:29 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Access 97 and the LDBViewer
Message-ID: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE4D4@TAPPEEXCH01>

Sent it to you offline

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 1:57 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Access 97 and the LDBViewer


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I really hope that someone can help me.  I need a copy of the LDBViewer, and
cannot seem to get anything from the MS site.  Could someone PLEASE email a
copy to me?  (Please change the exe extension to jgb or it will not get thru
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From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca  Thu Apr  8 14:22:52 2004
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 15:22:52 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Odd messages in List
Message-ID: <s0756e5f.035@cbc.ca>

The e-mail that you are referring to is, unfortunately one of the new
breed of virii that spoofs the From line and sends itself to every
e-mail address that it can get from you e-mail client (usually Outlook
and Outlook Express).

In this case, and the one yesterday, it is from someone that has
AccessD's e-mail address and some listers addresses in their clients. So
the virus grabs a lister's address and uses that as the from and to the
AccessD list.

Since it is appears that the e-mail is from a lister, the list
ssoftware lets it through to the list :( Luckily the list software
strips anything that is not plain old text, so the viral payload didn't
get to the list.

I can tell you that it appears to actually be from someone that uses,
or used,  Bell South DSL for their internet connection.

Other than that, there is not much we can do :(

Bryan Carbonnell
bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca


>>> cfoust at infostatsystems.com 08-Apr-04 11:31:12 AM >>>
What is going on with the "Re: Your Document" messages I'm seeing in
the
list, complete with test attachment and a body of 

"Hi!
Please read the attached document."

It's surprising my spam filters aren't screening this, since it
certainly looks like junk mail to me.

Charlotte Foust



From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Thu Apr  8 14:38:14 2004
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (reuben at gfconsultants.com)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 15:38:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Textfile
Message-ID: <200404081938.i38Jc7B02421@databaseadvisors.com>


Hi!
The requested textfile is attached!


+++ X-Attachment-Type: document
+++ X-Attachment-Status: no virus found
+++ Powered by the new Panda OnlineAntiVirus
+++ Website: www.pandasoftware.com



From joeget at vgernet.net  Thu Apr  8 16:00:16 2004
From: joeget at vgernet.net (John Eget)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 17:00:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] cumulative record count question
Message-ID: <009a01c41dac$830ffce0$3dc2f63f@Desktop>

I am performing a query on a table and only want to display ten records from the query. Does anyone know how to do a running sum of record count of a table .the table contains  program....sumofRecord   nothing more and the table name is tblProgram. I want to do this in a row or the query
Thanks
John  

From joeget at vgernet.net  Thu Apr  8 16:15:18 2004
From: joeget at vgernet.net (John Eget)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 17:15:18 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] additional info
Message-ID: <00b601c41dae$9c29b2f0$3dc2f63f@Desktop>

I also have a field RecordCount which gives me a value of 1 when the query is run

I am performing a query on a table and only want to display ten records from the query. Does anyone know how to do a running sum of record count of a table .the table contains  program....sumofRecord   nothing more and the table name is tblProgram. I want to do this in a row or the query
Thanks
John  

From Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com  Thu Apr  8 16:50:41 2004
From: Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com (Jeff Barrows)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 16:50:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access 97 and the LDBViewer
Message-ID: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE6305092DC@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com>

Thanks to everyone for the help.  Got the file off list around 4:00pm.  

Jeff Barrows
Outbak Technologies, LLC
Racine, WI
 
www.outbaktech.com 
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Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 2:06 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 and the LDBViewer

Sent it to you offline

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To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
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cannot seem to get anything from the MS site.  Could someone PLEASE
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From donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com  Thu Apr  8 16:55:36 2004
From: donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com (Mcgillivray, Donald [ITS])
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 16:55:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] additional info
Message-ID: <6FC1C7A6E7BD5540AB0A8436713C43BF07E96194@PKDWB01C.ad.sprint.com>

John,

It's not clear from your question exactly what you're trying to
accomplish, but you may get some guidance from Access help under the
topic "TopValues".  This feature allows you to limit a query's result to
the top 'N' values, the results depending on the specific selection
criteria and sort settings in the query.  Might help you to get you what
you want.

HTH,
Don McGillivray


From DaveSharpe2 at cox.net  Thu Apr  8 16:58:40 2004
From: DaveSharpe2 at cox.net (Dave Sharpe)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 17:58:40 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved
References: <00ad01c41d0a$98db8be0$48619a89@DDICK><002001c41d13$dc7a4040$dd2f0a44@bcsrkeext6137>
	<010501c41d17$9b574e60$48619a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <008601c41db4$a74a4e00$dd2f0a44@bcsrkeext6137>

Darren

I glad that I could help

Dave
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darren DICK" <d.dick at uws.edu.au>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 11:14 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved


> Hi Dave
> That was it
> It seems you can't create an autonumber from code
> You first create a  number field then change the attributes
> of that newly created field to  (drum roll)  ***dbAutoIncrField***
> Then that tells access it's an Autonumber
>
> No wonder the help wasn't
> I wouldn't have discovered/figured this by myself in a million years.
> Many many thanks
>
> and many thanks to those who responded
>
> (I was just going through variations on Susan's suggestion when your post
came in)
>
> This list is brilliant
>
> Darren
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dave Sharpe" <DaveSharpe2 at cox.net>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 12:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code
>
>
> > Darren
> >
> > I think that this should help
> >
> > http://www.mvps.org/access/tables/tbl0016.htm
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Darren DICK" <d.dick at uws.edu.au>
> > To: "AccessD List" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 9:41 PM
> > Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code
> >
> >
> > > Hello all
> > > I managed to find in the help code for creating fields in tables.
> > Excellent
> > > I can see examples and general info on creating just about every field
> > known to mankind....except Autonumber.
> > >
> > > I am importing a DBF file with no Autonumber
> > >
> > > The field I was going to use a PK in that file is TEXT.
> > >
> > > So..I'm open to suggestions- convert the text field to a number field
or
> > try and add an Auutonumber field and use that
> > >
> > > Any suggestions welcome
> > >
> > > many thanks
> > >
> > > Darren
> > >
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From DaveSharpe2 at cox.net  Thu Apr  8 17:06:21 2004
From: DaveSharpe2 at cox.net (Dave Sharpe)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 18:06:21 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access 97 and the LDBViewer
References: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE6305003266C@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com>
Message-ID: <010f01c41db5$b992fac0$dd2f0a44@bcsrkeext6137>

Jeff

Look here

http://www.microsoft.com/accessdev/articles/jetlund.htm

Dave


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Barrows" <Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 2:57 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Access 97 and the LDBViewer


> I really hope that someone can help me.  I need a copy of the LDBViewer,
and cannot seem to get anything from the MS site.  Could someone PLEASE
email a copy to me?  (Please change the exe extension to jgb or it will not
get thru to me)
>
>
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From DaveSharpe2 at cox.net  Thu Apr  8 17:18:35 2004
From: DaveSharpe2 at cox.net (Dave Sharpe)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 18:18:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] cumulative record count question
References: <009a01c41dac$830ffce0$3dc2f63f@Desktop>
Message-ID: <019001c41db7$6f6ef5a0$dd2f0a44@bcsrkeext6137>

John

try SELECT  TOP 10 * from tblProgram

Dave


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Eget" <joeget at vgernet.net>
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 5:00 PM
Subject: [AccessD] cumulative record count question


I am performing a query on a table and only want to display ten records from
the query. Does anyone know how to do a running sum of record count of a
table .the table contains  program....sumofRecord   nothing more and the
table name is tblProgram. I want to do this in a row or the query
Thanks
John
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From joeget at vgernet.net  Thu Apr  8 18:43:42 2004
From: joeget at vgernet.net (John Eget)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 19:43:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] cumulative record count question
References: <009a01c41dac$830ffce0$3dc2f63f@Desktop>
	<019001c41db7$6f6ef5a0$dd2f0a44@bcsrkeext6137>
Message-ID: <001501c41dc3$573cff20$bec2f63f@Desktop>

The problem is when the 10th thru the 15th record are the same values all of
them show up!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Sharpe" <DaveSharpe2 at cox.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] cumulative record count question


> John
>
> try SELECT  TOP 10 * from tblProgram
>
> Dave
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Eget" <joeget at vgernet.net>
> To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 5:00 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] cumulative record count question
>
>
> I am performing a query on a table and only want to display ten records
from
> the query. Does anyone know how to do a running sum of record count of a
> table .the table contains  program....sumofRecord   nothing more and the
> table name is tblProgram. I want to do this in a row or the query
> Thanks
> John
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Apr  8 18:53:01 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 16:53:01 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Linking speeds
In-Reply-To: <20040408133015.EBA232762E6@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIGEJJCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Andy:

Thanks for that. I will try it right away.

Jim

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Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 7:30 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linking speeds


The main one being to open a connection to the back-end and keep it open for
the duration of the relink, e.g.

Set dbData = DBEngine.Workspaces(0).OpenDatabase(strDataMdb)

As I can vouch, this speeds it up enormously.

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To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linking speeds
Date: 08/04/04 12:42

>
> Jim ...did you check the dba archives? ...this has several possible causes
> and solutions that have been covered extensively :)
>
> Political advertising is the price of our chains ...my name is William
> Hindman and I approve this message :)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: &quot;Jim Lawrence (AccessD)&quot; &lt;accessd at shaw.ca&gt;
> To: &quot;Access Developers discussion and problem solving&quot;
> &lt;accessd at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:57 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] Linking speeds
>
>
> &gt; Hi All:
> &gt;
> &gt; I seldom use 'bound' forms in Access...SQL and Oracles work better
> 'unbound'
> &gt; but this is not the question or a provocation.
> &gt;
> &gt; I am having a 'bound' problem with a slow connection/linking from the
FE
> to
> &gt; the BE. The users do not seem concerned but the initial connection
times
> &gt; seem unreasonable long. Some messages have been posted to this issue
on
> the
> &gt; list but I missed them.
> &gt;
> &gt; Would anyone know how to speed up linking time? (Access2002)
> &gt;
> &gt; TIA
> &gt; Jim
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr  8 19:03:25 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 20:03:25 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] cumulative record count question
In-Reply-To: <001501c41dc3$573cff20$bec2f63f@Desktop>
Message-ID: <20040409000345.QJTG4152.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

You'll need an extra field in your ORDER BY clause

SELECT TOP 10 fldlist
FROM tblProgram
ORDER BY field1, field2

To break the duplicate tie. 

Susan H. 


The problem is when the 10th thru the 15th record are the same values all of
them show up!


> John
>
> try SELECT  TOP 10 * from tblProgram
>
> Dave
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Eget" <joeget at vgernet.net>
> To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 5:00 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] cumulative record count question
>
>
> I am performing a query on a table and only want to display ten records
from
> the query. Does anyone know how to do a running sum of record count of a
> table .the table contains  program....sumofRecord   nothing more and the
> table name is tblProgram. I want to do this in a row or the query
> Thanks
> John
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From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Thu Apr  8 23:17:13 2004
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 09:47:13 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] cumulative record count question
References: <009a01c41dac$830ffce0$3dc2f63f@Desktop><019001c41db7$6f6ef5a0$d
	d2f0a44@bcsrkeext6137> <001501c41dc3$573cff20$bec2f63f@Desktop>
Message-ID: <00a801c41deb$3c65c880$351865cb@winxp>

John,

    You could see my sample db named  RunningCountSum_2K  at Rogers Access Library (other developers section) at the following link -
    http://www.rogersaccesslibrary.com

    The underlying approach could be adapted suitably for your specific needs.

Regards,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------
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  From: John Eget 
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  Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 05:13
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] cumulative record count question


  The problem is when the 10th thru the 15th record are the same values all of
  them show up!

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Dave Sharpe" <DaveSharpe2 at cox.net>
  To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
  <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
  Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 6:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] cumulative record count question


  > John
  >
  > try SELECT  TOP 10 * from tblProgram
  >
  > Dave
  >
  >
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: "John Eget" <joeget at vgernet.net>
  > To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
  > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 5:00 PM
  > Subject: [AccessD] cumulative record count question
  >
  >
  > I am performing a query on a table and only want to display ten records
  from
  > the query. Does anyone know how to do a running sum of record count of a
  > table .the table contains  program....sumofRecord   nothing more and the
  > table name is tblProgram. I want to do this in a row or the query
  > Thanks
  > John



From budge at magicaldesk.com  Fri Apr  9 08:08:36 2004
From: budge at magicaldesk.com (budge at magicaldesk.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 09:08:36 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] My details
Message-ID: <200404091308.i39D8VB10981@databaseadvisors.com>


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From serbach at new.rr.com  Fri Apr  9 08:09:01 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (serbach at new.rr.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 09:09:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Important
Message-ID: <200404091308.i39D8xB11384@databaseadvisors.com>


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From serbach at new.rr.com  Fri Apr  9 08:09:44 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 08:09:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query problem
Message-ID: <20040409080944.2104805327.serbach@new.rr.com>

Ms. Doran,

>> I want only the record for the earlier date in the cases where there are duplicate ID's. But I also want all the records where there are no duplicates. How would I query for this? <<

You can ask Access to give you the Minimum of the [DOT] column and get the earliest date for the dupes and still get the non-dupes. The Minimum of a single date is the date itself:

Field: DOT
Table: (Whatever your table is)
Total: Min (You need to select Totals from the Access View menu to see this line)

>> What the original database did here was just added another
record with the same Patient ID and a second transplant date with new info
for many of the fields but not the static/demographic fields. The first
transplant date has the static fields. <<

Not sure I see the problem here. Of course, the "static/demographic" information should be separated into its own table and the transplants should be stored in another with a reference to the patient id.

Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504
 
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From PBudge at cbsol.com  Fri Apr  9 08:27:43 2004
From: PBudge at cbsol.com (PBudge at cbsol.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 08:27:43 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] My details
Message-ID: <OF2C2C426D.A954674C-ON86256E71.0049CA67@cbsol.com>


Ok, this is weird.  That email address no longer even exists and hasn't for
over a year.  Wonder where they got it to spoof it. . .

Pamela G. Budge
PBudge at cbsol.com
Creative Business Solutions


                                                                                                                                               
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr  9 08:49:50 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 09:49:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Query problem
In-Reply-To: <20040409080944.2104805327.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <20040409135009.DXGI1810.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Or, you do a desc sort?

Susan H. 

Ms. Doran,

>> I want only the record for the earlier date in the cases where there 
>> are duplicate ID's. But I also want all the records where there are 
>> no duplicates. How would I query for this? <<

You can ask Access to give you the Minimum of the [DOT] column and get the
earliest date for the dupes and still get the non-dupes. The Minimum of a
single date is the date itself:

Field: DOT
Table: (Whatever your table is)
Total: Min (You need to select Totals from the Access View menu to see this
line)

>> What the original database did here was just added another
record with the same Patient ID and a second transplant date with new info
for many of the fields but not the static/demographic fields. The first
transplant date has the static fields. <<

Not sure I see the problem here. Of course, the "static/demographic"
information should be separated into its own table and the transplants
should be stored in another with a reference to the patient id.

Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504
 
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From jmajchrz at nycap.rr.com  Fri Apr  9 10:02:59 2004
From: jmajchrz at nycap.rr.com (Jeffrey Majchrzak)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 11:02:59 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Creating a DSN via code
Message-ID: <200404091503.i39F36df010970@ms-smtp-01.nyroc.rr.com>

I have an application that is going to have the backend upsized to SQL
Server 2000.  This application sits on about 50 desktops.  Would anyone have
any code examples that I can view to create a DSN connection?  The DSN will
have the same username and password for all users so I would like the code
to auto fill the username and password when creating the DSN.  

 

Thank you in advance for all your help.

 

Jeffrey Majchrzak

Empire Computer Consulting



From DElam at jenkens.com  Fri Apr  9 10:19:58 2004
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 10:19:58 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Creating a DSN via code
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0106BD5F@natexch.jenkens.com>

I got this off of Dev Ashish's site:
This example has trusted security through he NT Login.

**********************************************************

Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

'*********************** Code Start ***************************
'Code by Anthony S. Karre via Dev Ashish's Access Web Page
'
Const JDS_DSN_name = "Franchise2"
Const JDS_Server_name = "DalInt2"   ' Raw IP address is used to avoid NT _
 
Domain name resolution probs.

Private Declare Function RegEnumKeyEx Lib "advapi32.dll" _
Alias "RegEnumKeyExA" _
  (ByVal hKey As Long, _
   ByVal dwIndex As Long, _
   ByVal lpName As String, _
   lpcbName As Long, _
   ByVal lpReserved As Long, _
   ByVal lpClass As String, _
   lpcbClass As Long, _
   ByVal lpftLastWriteTime As String) As Long

Private Declare Function RegOpenKeyEx Lib "advapi32.dll" _
Alias "RegOpenKeyExA" _
    (ByVal hKey As Long, _
    ByVal lpSubKey As String, _
    ByVal ulOptions As Long, _
    ByVal samDesired As Long, phkResult As Long) As Long

Private Declare Function SQLConfigDataSource Lib "odbccp32.dll" _
    (ByVal hwndParent As Long, _
    ByVal fRequest As Integer, _
    ByVal lpszDriver As String, _
    ByVal lpszAttributes As String) As Long

Private Declare Function RegCloseKey Lib "advapi32.dll" _
    (ByVal hKey As Long) As Long

      Const HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE = &H80000002

      Const ERROR_SUCCESS = 0&
      Const SYNCHRONIZE = &H100000
      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_READ = &H20000
      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_WRITE = &H20000
      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_EXECUTE = &H20000
      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_REQUIRED = &HF0000
      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_ALL = &H1F0000
      Const KEY_QUERY_VALUE = &H1
      Const KEY_SET_VALUE = &H2
      Const KEY_CREATE_SUB_KEY = &H4
      Const KEY_ENUMERATE_SUB_KEYS = &H8
      Const KEY_NOTIFY = &H10
      Const KEY_CREATE_LINK = &H20
      Const KEY_READ = ((STANDARD_RIGHTS_READ Or _
                        KEY_QUERY_VALUE Or _
                        KEY_ENUMERATE_SUB_KEYS Or _
                        KEY_NOTIFY) And _
                        (Not SYNCHRONIZE))

      Const REG_DWORD = 4
      Const REG_BINARY = 3
      Const REG_SZ = 1
      
      Const ODBC_ADD_SYS_DSN = 4
      

Function Check_SDSN()

         '  Look for our System Data Source Name.  If we find it, then
great!
         '  If not, then let's create one on the fly.
         
         Dim lngKeyHandle As Long
         Dim lngResult As Long
         Dim lngCurIdx As Long
         Dim strValue As String
         Dim classValue As String
         Dim timeValue As String
         Dim lngValueLen As Long
         Dim classlngValueLen As Long
         Dim lngData As Long
         Dim lngDataLen As Long
         Dim strResult As String
         Dim DSNfound As Long
         Dim syscmdresult As Long

         syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdSetStatus, "Looking for System DSN "
& JDS_DSN_name & " ...")
         
         '  Let's open the registry key that contains all of the
         '  System Data Source Names.
         
         lngResult = RegOpenKeyEx(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, _
                 "SOFTWARE\ODBC\ODBC.INI", _
                  0&, _
                  KEY_READ, _
                  lngKeyHandle)

         If lngResult <> ERROR_SUCCESS Then
             MsgBox "ERROR:  Cannot open the registry key
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ODBC\ODBC.INI." & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
                    "Please make sure that ODBC and the SQL Server ODBC
drivers have been installed." & vbCrLf & _
                    "Contact call your MDTS System Administrator for more
information."
             syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdClearStatus)
             Check_SDSN = -1
         End If
         
         ' Now that the key is open, Let's look among all of
         ' the possible system data source names for the one
         ' we want.

         lngCurIdx = 0
         DSNfound = False
         
         Do
            lngValueLen = 512
            classlngValueLen = 512
            strValue = String(lngValueLen, 0)
            classValue = String(classlngValueLen, 0)
            timeValue = String(lngValueLen, 0)
            lngDataLen = 512

            lngResult = RegEnumKeyEx(lngKeyHandle, _
                                     lngCurIdx, _
                                     strValue, _
                                     lngValueLen, _
                                     0&, _
                                     classValue, _
                                     classlngValueLen, _
                                     timeValue)
            lngCurIdx = lngCurIdx + 1

         If lngResult = ERROR_SUCCESS Then
         
           ' Is this our System Data Source Name?
         
           If strValue = JDS_DSN_name Then
           
             '  It is!  Let's assume everything is good and do nothing.
             
             DSNfound = True
             syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdClearStatus)
         
           End If
           
         End If

         Loop While lngResult = ERROR_SUCCESS And Not DSNfound
         
         Call RegCloseKey(lngKeyHandle)

         If Not DSNfound Then
         
           '  Our System Data Source Name doesn't exist, so let's
           '  try to create it on the fly.
         
           syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdSetStatus, "Creating System DSN " &
JDS_DSN_name & "...")
         
           lngResult = SQLConfigDataSource(0, _
                                           ODBC_ADD_SYS_DSN, _
                                           "SQL Server", _
                                           "DSN=" & JDS_DSN_name & Chr(0) &
_
                                           "Server=" & JDS_Server_name &
Chr(0) & _
                                           "Database=FranchiseReg" & Chr(0)
& _
                                           "UseProcForPrepare=Yes" & Chr(0)
& _
                                           "Network=dbmssocn" & Chr(0) & _
                                           "Description=Franchise" & Chr(0)
& Chr(0))
                       
           If lngResult = False Then
           
             MsgBox "ERROR:  Could not create the System DSN " &
JDS_DSN_name & "." & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
                    "Please make sure that the SQL Server ODBC drivers have
been installed." & vbCrLf & _
                    "Contact your System Administrator for more
information."
                    
             syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdClearStatus)
             Check_SDSN = -1

           End If
           
         End If
         
         syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdClearStatus)
         Check_SDSN = 0

End Function
'*********************** Code End ***************************



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From: Jeffrey Majchrzak [mailto:jmajchrz at nycap.rr.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 10:03 AM
To: accessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Creating a DSN via code


I have an application that is going to have the backend upsized to SQL
Server 2000.  This application sits on about 50 desktops.  Would anyone have
any code examples that I can view to create a DSN connection?  The DSN will
have the same username and password for all users so I would like the code
to auto fill the username and password when creating the DSN.  

 

Thank you in advance for all your help.

 

Jeffrey Majchrzak

Empire Computer Consulting

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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Fri Apr  9 10:23:45 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 10:23:45 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Creating a DSN via code
Message-ID: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE4E5@TAPPEEXCH01>

First of all, I would advise against system/user DSNs.  Access 2000 and
greater allow the use of file DSNs, where the connection information is
embedded within the table/query connection string.  Fewer configuration
issues, and no chance of the user screwing up your application by playing
around with control panel settings.

That being said, there are a few valid reasons to use a system DSN (legacy
access apps, for example).  I have accomplished this by exporting the
appropriate registry settings to a textfile ending in .reg.  Here is an
example of creating a System DSN:

-----
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ODBC\ODBC.INI\MyApp]
"Driver"="C:\\WINNT\\System32\\SQLSRV32.dll"
"Description"="My App Connection"
"Server"="MYSERVER"
"Database"="MyDatabaseName"
"LastUser"=""
"Trusted_Connection"="Yes"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ODBC\ODBC.INI\ODBC Data Sources]
"MyApp"="SQL Server"
-----

When you double click on the file, it prompt you and import the settings
into the registry.  It can be run in silent mode by typing regedit /s
<filename>.reg from a command line/run window.

Are we done?  Not quite!  This is a minor issue for most users, if you want
to use this connection with a 16-bit application, you also need to edit the
ODBC.INI file.  This can be done using the following code:

Private Declare Function WritePrivateProfileString Lib "kernel32" Alias
"WritePrivateProfileStringA" (ByVal lpApplicationName As String, ByVal
lpKeyName As Any, ByVal lpString As Any, ByVal lpFileName As String) As Long

Public Sub AddDSN(ByVal strDSNName As String)

    WritePrivateProfileString "ODBC 32 bit Data Sources" & Chr$(0), _
        strDSNName & Chr$(0), _
        "SQL Server (32 bit)" & Chr$(0), _
        "ODBC.INI" & Chr$(0)

    WritePrivateProfileString strDSNName & Chr$(0), _
        "Driver32" & Chr$(0), _
        "C:\WINNT\System32\sqlsrv32.dll" & Chr$(0), _
        "ODBC.INI" & Chr$(0)

End Sub

HTH,
Brett Barabash, MCP 
Tappe Construction, Co. 
Eagan, MN 
bbarabash at tappeconstruction.com 
(651) 256-6831 

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From: Jeffrey Majchrzak [mailto:jmajchrz at nycap.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 10:03 AM
To: accessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Creating a DSN via code


I have an application that is going to have the backend upsized to SQL
Server 2000.  This application sits on about 50 desktops.  Would anyone have
any code examples that I can view to create a DSN connection?  The DSN will
have the same username and password for all users so I would like the code
to auto fill the username and password when creating the DSN.  

 

Thank you in advance for all your help.

 

Jeffrey Majchrzak

Empire Computer Consulting

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From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Fri Apr  9 10:32:57 2004
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 10:32:57 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] BEU Enhancement
In-Reply-To: <s0754f89.020@cbc.ca>
Message-ID: <FKEBJOENDDBJHLINGOBHEEHBFFAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

I have added tables like mad to some db's and never had a problem.  This
issue was covered in development (unless I don't understand what you are
saying).

There is a function to check what tables to relink or not relink
(beuDBACheckLink).

In my relinking code I have the following line:
If beuDBACheckLink(tdf.name, strFileName) Then

Are you sure you placed this call in the relinker as stated in the manual?
Re-Read PAGES 2 AND 3 of the BEU manual to see what to call and where to
place it.

I suggest we thoroughly explore the beuDBACheckLink module and the call from
the relinker before making any changes to code.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Bryan
> Carbonnell
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 12:12 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] BEU Enchancement
>
>
> I've ran across this problem, or one very similar, in the past couple of
> weeks.
>
> I won't say this is the prefered fix for it, since this is Reuben's
> function, but it's what I did to make it work. Please feel free to pass
> this on to the person using it:
>
> In the beuDBAValidateBEPathnction of the basbeuDBAisdbuptodate module:
>
> Maybe 15 lines down, or so, the line that starts, and continues on for
> 4 lines
> strSQL = "SELECT ....
>
> replace it with, and watch fro wrapping:
>
> strSQL = "SELECT tblDBAModifyDatabase.ParameterValue,
> tblDBAModifyDatabaseMods.HowCounter" _
>     & " FROM tblDBAModifyDatabaseMods INNER JOIN tblDBAModifyDatabase
> ON tblDBAModifyDatabaseMods.ModNumber = tblDBAModifyDatabase.ModNumber"
> _
>     & " WHERE tblDBAModifyDatabaseMods.WhatCounter=2 AND
> tblDBAModifyDatabaseMods.HowCounter=2" _
>     & " AND tblDBAModifyDatabaseMods.State<>-1;"
>
> What this does is allows the link validation to take place on a table
> added by the BEU as long as it's was added correctly and had it's mod
> state cahnged to True.
>
> Now, I am using an Alpha of V2, so (s)he *may* need to tweak it a bit
> for V 1.58, but I don't think it will be necessary.
>
> Bryan Carbonnell
> bryan_carbonnelL at cbc.ca
>
>
> >>> jimdettman at earthlink.net 08-Apr-04 12:49:34 PM >>>
> Reuben, Andy, Lembit, or Bryan
>
>   I recommended the BEU to someone and their using relinking code in
> their
> app.  The problem is, it quits the app if a relink cannot be performed
> on a
> table, which is the case when you add a new table via the BEU.  To
> help
> developers around that problem, I would suggest adding a function call
> that
> checks the BEU task list and returns True if it finds the table name.
> Example:
>
> ' In relink code
>
> If Not IsNewBEUTable(strTableName) then
>    ' Relink the table
> End If
>
>
> ' Function added to BEU.
> Public Function IsNewBEUTable(strTableName as string) as integer
>
>   ' Check BEU task table to see if strTableName is added
>   ' Pass back True if found or False if not.
>
> End Function
>
>   I'm not sure exactly what needs to be done to actually identifiy the
> table
> in the task list because I haven't dug deep enough, but I thought I'd
> pass
> along the suggestion at least.
>
> Jim Dettman
> President,
> Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
> (315) 699-3443
> jimdettman at earthlink.net
>
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From Patricia.O'Connor at DFA.STATE.NY.US  Fri Apr  9 10:54:24 2004
From: Patricia.O'Connor at DFA.STATE.NY.US (O'Connor, Patricia  )
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 11:54:24 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Query problem
Message-ID: <F3AD5F74D038C045A3BDB2773581F4DB01882540@exchsen0a1mc>

you could try sql

select tb1.*
from tablex as tb1
where (tb1.patient_id, tb1.DOt) IN (select tb2.patient_id, min(tb2.dot) from
tablex as tb2  group by tb2.patient_id)

or create 2 access queries
the first named qrygetfirstentry would be 

select patient_id, min(dot) as firstdt from tablex  group by patient_id

which would then be used in the second query name qrysavedemog

select tablex.*
from tablex join qrygetfirstentry on tablex.patient_id =
qrygetfirstentry.patient_id and tablex.dot = qrygetfirstentry.firstdt


HTH
Patti



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bridget Doran [mailto:bridgetd at biostat.umn.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 01:58 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Query problem
> 
> 
> Hi all -
> 
> Working in Access2K.
> 
> I am querying non-normalized data to get records where there are some
> duplicate ID's. Each of these duplicate records will have a date field
> called DOT. I want only the record for the earlier date in 
> the cases where
> there are duplicate ID's. But I also want all the records 
> where there are no
> duplicates. How would I query for this?
> 
> The problem I am addressing is data that has both static and changing
> fields. A patient has basic demographic info as well as 
> multiple transplants
> (2 at most). What the original database did here was just 
> added another
> record with the same Patient ID and a second transplant date 
> with new info
> for many of the fields but not the static/demographic fields. 
> The first
> transplant date has the static fields.
> 
> I have only querying rights to this database and we are 
> building a research
> database that is dependent on it. So, I am attempting to build some
> normalization into our research database with queries.
> 
> Thanks for any help!
> 
> Bridget Doran
> Biostatistics Consulting Lab
> Division of Public Health
> University of Minnesota
> 
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From jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com  Fri Apr  9 11:18:40 2004
From: jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com (jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 11:18:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Data Types and Number of Characters
Message-ID: <OF0A2F1234.539FD5FE-ON86256E71.00597D36-86256E71.005995C5@us.bank-dns.com>


Liz,

Thanks for the information.  Just had a new hard drive put in and the LAN
admin seems to have not put everything back on my pc, like help files...
Cannot wait to find out what other little surprise await.


                                                                                                                                               
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Jeffrey,

This is from Access 97 help:

Byte         Stores numbers from 0 to 255 (no fractions).
 1 byte
Integer            Stores numbers from -32,768 to 32,767 (no fractions).
       2 bytes
Long Integer             (Default) Stores numbers from -2,147,483,648 to
2,147,483,647 (no fractions).        4 bytes
Single             Stores numbers from -3.402823E38 to -1.401298E-45 for
negative
values and from 1.401298E-45 to 3.402823E38 for positive values.         4
bytes
Double             Stores numbers from -1.79769313486231E308 to
-4.94065645841247E-324
for negative values and from 1.79769313486231E308 to 4.94065645841247E-324
for positive values.           8 bytes

Hope this helps,


Liz Doering
Symphony Information Services
liz at symphonyinfo.com
www.symphonyinfo.com




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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:48 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Data Types and Number of Characters


Starting to become a rough day and need some help here as.

Given the various data types in access what is the maximum number of
characters for each one.  I am not asking about the storage size, but the
actual characters displayed.

I think an example would help:

An Integer has a storage size of 2 bytes but the number of characters
maximum that will be displayed is 6.

The other data types I am wondering about are:

Long
Single
Double
Currency
Decimal


Hopefully this make sense.  Thanks for any help in advance.



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From jmajchrz at nycap.rr.com  Fri Apr  9 12:35:02 2004
From: jmajchrz at nycap.rr.com (Jeffrey Majchrzak)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 13:35:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Creating a DSN via code
Message-ID: <200404091735.i39HZ9Ma021478@ms-smtp-04.nyroc.rr.com>

Thank you. I saw this code on the Access web site.  Using the code from the
site:(I am assuming this section)

 

lngResult = SQLConfigDataSource(0, _

                                           ODBC_ADD_SYS_DSN, _

                                           "SQL Server", _

                                           "DSN=" & JDS_DSN_name & Chr(0) &
_

                                           "Server=" & JDS_Server_name &
Chr(0) & _

                                           "Database=SvCvMarketing" & Chr(0)
& _

                                           "UseProcForPrepare=Yes" & Chr(0)
& _

                                           "Description=MDTS Database" &
Chr(0) & Chr(0))

 

How do I add in the User Name and Password?

 

 

Thanks Again

 

Jeff Majchrzak

 

 

 

 

Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 10:19:58 -0500 

From: "Elam, Debbie" <DElam at jenkens.com>

Subject: RE: [AccessD] Creating a DSN via code

To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"

      <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>

Message-ID:

      <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0106BD5F at natexch.jenkens.com>

Content-Type: text/plain

 

I got this off of Dev Ashish's site:

This example has trusted security through he NT Login.

 

**********************************************************

 

Option Compare Database

Option Explicit

 

'*********************** Code Start ***************************

'Code by Anthony S. Karre via Dev Ashish's Access Web Page

'

Const JDS_DSN_name = "Franchise2"

Const JDS_Server_name = "DalInt2"   ' Raw IP address is used to avoid NT _

 

Domain name resolution probs.

 

Private Declare Function RegEnumKeyEx Lib "advapi32.dll" _

Alias "RegEnumKeyExA" _

  (ByVal hKey As Long, _

   ByVal dwIndex As Long, _

   ByVal lpName As String, _

   lpcbName As Long, _

   ByVal lpReserved As Long, _

   ByVal lpClass As String, _

   lpcbClass As Long, _

   ByVal lpftLastWriteTime As String) As Long

 

Private Declare Function RegOpenKeyEx Lib "advapi32.dll" _

Alias "RegOpenKeyExA" _

    (ByVal hKey As Long, _

    ByVal lpSubKey As String, _

    ByVal ulOptions As Long, _

    ByVal samDesired As Long, phkResult As Long) As Long

 

Private Declare Function SQLConfigDataSource Lib "odbccp32.dll" _

    (ByVal hwndParent As Long, _

    ByVal fRequest As Integer, _

    ByVal lpszDriver As String, _

    ByVal lpszAttributes As String) As Long

 

Private Declare Function RegCloseKey Lib "advapi32.dll" _

    (ByVal hKey As Long) As Long

 

      Const HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE = &H80000002

 

      Const ERROR_SUCCESS = 0&

      Const SYNCHRONIZE = &H100000

      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_READ = &H20000

      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_WRITE = &H20000

      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_EXECUTE = &H20000

      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_REQUIRED = &HF0000

      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_ALL = &H1F0000

      Const KEY_QUERY_VALUE = &H1

      Const KEY_SET_VALUE = &H2

      Const KEY_CREATE_SUB_KEY = &H4

      Const KEY_ENUMERATE_SUB_KEYS = &H8

      Const KEY_NOTIFY = &H10

      Const KEY_CREATE_LINK = &H20

      Const KEY_READ = ((STANDARD_RIGHTS_READ Or _

                        KEY_QUERY_VALUE Or _

                        KEY_ENUMERATE_SUB_KEYS Or _

                        KEY_NOTIFY) And _

                        (Not SYNCHRONIZE))

 

      Const REG_DWORD = 4

      Const REG_BINARY = 3

      Const REG_SZ = 1

      

      Const ODBC_ADD_SYS_DSN = 4

      

 

Function Check_SDSN()

 

         '  Look for our System Data Source Name.  If we find it, then

great!

         '  If not, then let's create one on the fly.

         

         Dim lngKeyHandle As Long

         Dim lngResult As Long

         Dim lngCurIdx As Long

         Dim strValue As String

         Dim classValue As String

         Dim timeValue As String

         Dim lngValueLen As Long

         Dim classlngValueLen As Long

         Dim lngData As Long

         Dim lngDataLen As Long

         Dim strResult As String

         Dim DSNfound As Long

         Dim syscmdresult As Long

 

         syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdSetStatus, "Looking for System DSN "

& JDS_DSN_name & " ...")

         

         '  Let's open the registry key that contains all of the

         '  System Data Source Names.

         

         lngResult = RegOpenKeyEx(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, _

                 "SOFTWARE\ODBC\ODBC.INI", _

                  0&, _

                  KEY_READ, _

                  lngKeyHandle)

 

         If lngResult <> ERROR_SUCCESS Then

             MsgBox "ERROR:  Cannot open the registry key

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ODBC\ODBC.INI." & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _

                    "Please make sure that ODBC and the SQL Server ODBC

drivers have been installed." & vbCrLf & _

                    "Contact call your MDTS System Administrator for more

information."

             syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdClearStatus)

             Check_SDSN = -1

         End If

         

         ' Now that the key is open, Let's look among all of

         ' the possible system data source names for the one

         ' we want.

 

         lngCurIdx = 0

         DSNfound = False

         

         Do

            lngValueLen = 512

            classlngValueLen = 512

            strValue = String(lngValueLen, 0)

            classValue = String(classlngValueLen, 0)

            timeValue = String(lngValueLen, 0)

            lngDataLen = 512

 

            lngResult = RegEnumKeyEx(lngKeyHandle, _

                                     lngCurIdx, _

                                     strValue, _

                                     lngValueLen, _

                                     0&, _

                                     classValue, _

                                     classlngValueLen, _

                                     timeValue)

            lngCurIdx = lngCurIdx + 1

 

         If lngResult = ERROR_SUCCESS Then

         

           ' Is this our System Data Source Name?

         

           If strValue = JDS_DSN_name Then

           

             '  It is!  Let's assume everything is good and do nothing.

             

             DSNfound = True

             syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdClearStatus)

         

           End If

           

         End If

 

         Loop While lngResult = ERROR_SUCCESS And Not DSNfound

         

         Call RegCloseKey(lngKeyHandle)

 

         If Not DSNfound Then

         

           '  Our System Data Source Name doesn't exist, so let's

           '  try to create it on the fly.

         

           syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdSetStatus, "Creating System DSN " &

JDS_DSN_name & "...")

         

           lngResult = SQLConfigDataSource(0, _

                                           ODBC_ADD_SYS_DSN, _

                                           "SQL Server", _

                                           "DSN=" & JDS_DSN_name & Chr(0) &

_

                                           "Server=" & JDS_Server_name &

Chr(0) & _

                                           "Database=FranchiseReg" & Chr(0)

& _

                                           "UseProcForPrepare=Yes" & Chr(0)

& _

                                           "Network=dbmssocn" & Chr(0) & _

                                           "Description=Franchise" & Chr(0)

& Chr(0))

                       

           If lngResult = False Then

           

             MsgBox "ERROR:  Could not create the System DSN " &

JDS_DSN_name & "." & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _

                    "Please make sure that the SQL Server ODBC drivers have

been installed." & vbCrLf & _

                    "Contact your System Administrator for more

information."

                    

             syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdClearStatus)

             Check_SDSN = -1

 

           End If

           

         End If

         

         syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdClearStatus)

         Check_SDSN = 0

 

End Function

'*********************** Code End ***************************

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Jeffrey Majchrzak [mailto:jmajchrz at nycap.rr.com] 

Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 10:03 AM

To: accessD at databaseadvisors.com

Subject: [AccessD] Creating a DSN via code

 

 

I have an application that is going to have the backend upsized to SQL

Server 2000.  This application sits on about 50 desktops.  Would anyone have

any code examples that I can view to create a DSN connection?  The DSN will

have the same username and password for all users so I would like the code

to auto fill the username and password when creating the DSN.  

 

 

 

Thank you in advance for all your help.

 

 

 

Jeffrey Majchrzak

 

Empire Computer Consulting



From jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com  Fri Apr  9 12:55:51 2004
From: jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com (jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 12:55:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Creating a DSN via code
Message-ID: <OFB7A5DEFD.EE35A7E6-ON86256E71.00626A18-86256E71.00627EF7@us.bank-dns.com>


"USER=<<YourNameHere>>, PWD=<<YourPasswordHere>>"


                                                                                                                                               
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Thank you. I saw this code on the Access web site.  Using the code from the
site:(I am assuming this section)



lngResult = SQLConfigDataSource(0, _

                                           ODBC_ADD_SYS_DSN, _

                                           "SQL Server", _

                                           "DSN=" & JDS_DSN_name & Chr(0) &
_

                                           "Server=" & JDS_Server_name &
Chr(0) & _

                                           "Database=SvCvMarketing" &
Chr(0)
& _

                                           "UseProcForPrepare=Yes" & Chr(0)
& _

                                           "Description=MDTS Database" &
Chr(0) & Chr(0))



How do I add in the User Name and Password?





Thanks Again



Jeff Majchrzak









Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 10:19:58 -0500

From: "Elam, Debbie" <DElam at jenkens.com>

Subject: RE: [AccessD] Creating a DSN via code

To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"

      <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>

Message-ID:

      <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0106BD5F at natexch.jenkens.com>

Content-Type: text/plain



I got this off of Dev Ashish's site:

This example has trusted security through he NT Login.



**********************************************************



Option Compare Database

Option Explicit



'*********************** Code Start ***************************

'Code by Anthony S. Karre via Dev Ashish's Access Web Page

'

Const JDS_DSN_name = "Franchise2"

Const JDS_Server_name = "DalInt2"   ' Raw IP address is used to avoid NT _



Domain name resolution probs.



Private Declare Function RegEnumKeyEx Lib "advapi32.dll" _

Alias "RegEnumKeyExA" _

  (ByVal hKey As Long, _

   ByVal dwIndex As Long, _

   ByVal lpName As String, _

   lpcbName As Long, _

   ByVal lpReserved As Long, _

   ByVal lpClass As String, _

   lpcbClass As Long, _

   ByVal lpftLastWriteTime As String) As Long



Private Declare Function RegOpenKeyEx Lib "advapi32.dll" _

Alias "RegOpenKeyExA" _

    (ByVal hKey As Long, _

    ByVal lpSubKey As String, _

    ByVal ulOptions As Long, _

    ByVal samDesired As Long, phkResult As Long) As Long



Private Declare Function SQLConfigDataSource Lib "odbccp32.dll" _

    (ByVal hwndParent As Long, _

    ByVal fRequest As Integer, _

    ByVal lpszDriver As String, _

    ByVal lpszAttributes As String) As Long



Private Declare Function RegCloseKey Lib "advapi32.dll" _

    (ByVal hKey As Long) As Long



      Const HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE = &H80000002



      Const ERROR_SUCCESS = 0&

      Const SYNCHRONIZE = &H100000

      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_READ = &H20000

      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_WRITE = &H20000

      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_EXECUTE = &H20000

      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_REQUIRED = &HF0000

      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_ALL = &H1F0000

      Const KEY_QUERY_VALUE = &H1

      Const KEY_SET_VALUE = &H2

      Const KEY_CREATE_SUB_KEY = &H4

      Const KEY_ENUMERATE_SUB_KEYS = &H8

      Const KEY_NOTIFY = &H10

      Const KEY_CREATE_LINK = &H20

      Const KEY_READ = ((STANDARD_RIGHTS_READ Or _

                        KEY_QUERY_VALUE Or _

                        KEY_ENUMERATE_SUB_KEYS Or _

                        KEY_NOTIFY) And _

                        (Not SYNCHRONIZE))



      Const REG_DWORD = 4

      Const REG_BINARY = 3

      Const REG_SZ = 1



      Const ODBC_ADD_SYS_DSN = 4





Function Check_SDSN()



         '  Look for our System Data Source Name.  If we find it, then

great!

         '  If not, then let's create one on the fly.



         Dim lngKeyHandle As Long

         Dim lngResult As Long

         Dim lngCurIdx As Long

         Dim strValue As String

         Dim classValue As String

         Dim timeValue As String

         Dim lngValueLen As Long

         Dim classlngValueLen As Long

         Dim lngData As Long

         Dim lngDataLen As Long

         Dim strResult As String

         Dim DSNfound As Long

         Dim syscmdresult As Long



         syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdSetStatus, "Looking for System DSN "

& JDS_DSN_name & " ...")



         '  Let's open the registry key that contains all of the

         '  System Data Source Names.



         lngResult = RegOpenKeyEx(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, _

                 "SOFTWARE\ODBC\ODBC.INI", _

                  0&, _

                  KEY_READ, _

                  lngKeyHandle)



         If lngResult <> ERROR_SUCCESS Then

             MsgBox "ERROR:  Cannot open the registry key

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ODBC\ODBC.INI." & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _

                    "Please make sure that ODBC and the SQL Server ODBC

drivers have been installed." & vbCrLf & _

                    "Contact call your MDTS System Administrator for more

information."

             syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdClearStatus)

             Check_SDSN = -1

         End If



         ' Now that the key is open, Let's look among all of

         ' the possible system data source names for the one

         ' we want.



         lngCurIdx = 0

         DSNfound = False



         Do

            lngValueLen = 512

            classlngValueLen = 512

            strValue = String(lngValueLen, 0)

            classValue = String(classlngValueLen, 0)

            timeValue = String(lngValueLen, 0)

            lngDataLen = 512



            lngResult = RegEnumKeyEx(lngKeyHandle, _

                                     lngCurIdx, _

                                     strValue, _

                                     lngValueLen, _

                                     0&, _

                                     classValue, _

                                     classlngValueLen, _

                                     timeValue)

            lngCurIdx = lngCurIdx + 1



         If lngResult = ERROR_SUCCESS Then



           ' Is this our System Data Source Name?



           If strValue = JDS_DSN_name Then



             '  It is!  Let's assume everything is good and do nothing.



             DSNfound = True

             syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdClearStatus)



           End If



         End If



         Loop While lngResult = ERROR_SUCCESS And Not DSNfound



         Call RegCloseKey(lngKeyHandle)



         If Not DSNfound Then



           '  Our System Data Source Name doesn't exist, so let's

           '  try to create it on the fly.



           syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdSetStatus, "Creating System DSN "
&

JDS_DSN_name & "...")



           lngResult = SQLConfigDataSource(0, _

                                           ODBC_ADD_SYS_DSN, _

                                           "SQL Server", _

                                           "DSN=" & JDS_DSN_name & Chr(0) &

_

                                           "Server=" & JDS_Server_name &

Chr(0) & _

                                           "Database=FranchiseReg" & Chr(0)

& _

                                           "UseProcForPrepare=Yes" & Chr(0)

& _

                                           "Network=dbmssocn" & Chr(0) & _

                                           "Description=Franchise" & Chr(0)

& Chr(0))



           If lngResult = False Then



             MsgBox "ERROR:  Could not create the System DSN " &

JDS_DSN_name & "." & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _

                    "Please make sure that the SQL Server ODBC drivers have

been installed." & vbCrLf & _

                    "Contact your System Administrator for more

information."



             syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdClearStatus)

             Check_SDSN = -1



           End If



         End If



         syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdClearStatus)

         Check_SDSN = 0



End Function

'*********************** Code End ***************************







-----Original Message-----

From: Jeffrey Majchrzak [mailto:jmajchrz at nycap.rr.com]

Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 10:03 AM

To: accessD at databaseadvisors.com

Subject: [AccessD] Creating a DSN via code





I have an application that is going to have the backend upsized to SQL

Server 2000.  This application sits on about 50 desktops.  Would anyone
have

any code examples that I can view to create a DSN connection?  The DSN will

have the same username and password for all users so I would like the code

to auto fill the username and password when creating the DSN.







Thank you in advance for all your help.







Jeffrey Majchrzak



Empire Computer Consulting

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From DElam at jenkens.com  Fri Apr  9 13:01:56 2004
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 13:01:56 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Creating a DSN via code
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0106BD69@natexch.jenkens.com>

I am not sure, however I suspect it should look something like this:

lngResult = SQLConfigDataSource(0, _
ODBC_ADD_SYS_DSN, _
"SQL Server", _
"DSN=" & JDS_DSN_name & Chr(0) & _
"Server=" & JDS_Server_name & Chr(0) & _
"Database=SvCvMarketing" & Chr(0) & _
"UseProcForPrepare=Yes" & Chr(0) & _
"Username=YourUserName" & Chr(0) & _
"Password=yourpassword" & Chr(0) & _
"Description=MDTS Database" & Chr(0) & Chr(0))

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey Majchrzak [mailto:jmajchrz at nycap.rr.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 12:35 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Creating a DSN via code


Thank you. I saw this code on the Access web site.  Using the code from the
site:(I am assuming this section)

 

lngResult = SQLConfigDataSource(0, _

                                           ODBC_ADD_SYS_DSN, _

                                           "SQL Server", _

                                           "DSN=" & JDS_DSN_name & Chr(0) &
_

                                           "Server=" & JDS_Server_name &
Chr(0) & _

                                           "Database=SvCvMarketing" & Chr(0)
& _

                                           "UseProcForPrepare=Yes" & Chr(0)
& _

                                           "Description=MDTS Database" &
Chr(0) & Chr(0))

 

How do I add in the User Name and Password?

 

 

Thanks Again

 

Jeff Majchrzak

 

 

 

 

Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 10:19:58 -0500 

From: "Elam, Debbie" <DElam at jenkens.com>

Subject: RE: [AccessD] Creating a DSN via code

To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"

      <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>

Message-ID:

      <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0106BD5F at natexch.jenkens.com>

Content-Type: text/plain

 

I got this off of Dev Ashish's site:

This example has trusted security through he NT Login.

 

**********************************************************

 

Option Compare Database

Option Explicit

 

'*********************** Code Start ***************************

'Code by Anthony S. Karre via Dev Ashish's Access Web Page

'

Const JDS_DSN_name = "Franchise2"

Const JDS_Server_name = "DalInt2"   ' Raw IP address is used to avoid NT _

 

Domain name resolution probs.

 

Private Declare Function RegEnumKeyEx Lib "advapi32.dll" _

Alias "RegEnumKeyExA" _

  (ByVal hKey As Long, _

   ByVal dwIndex As Long, _

   ByVal lpName As String, _

   lpcbName As Long, _

   ByVal lpReserved As Long, _

   ByVal lpClass As String, _

   lpcbClass As Long, _

   ByVal lpftLastWriteTime As String) As Long

 

Private Declare Function RegOpenKeyEx Lib "advapi32.dll" _

Alias "RegOpenKeyExA" _

    (ByVal hKey As Long, _

    ByVal lpSubKey As String, _

    ByVal ulOptions As Long, _

    ByVal samDesired As Long, phkResult As Long) As Long

 

Private Declare Function SQLConfigDataSource Lib "odbccp32.dll" _

    (ByVal hwndParent As Long, _

    ByVal fRequest As Integer, _

    ByVal lpszDriver As String, _

    ByVal lpszAttributes As String) As Long

 

Private Declare Function RegCloseKey Lib "advapi32.dll" _

    (ByVal hKey As Long) As Long

 

      Const HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE = &H80000002

 

      Const ERROR_SUCCESS = 0&

      Const SYNCHRONIZE = &H100000

      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_READ = &H20000

      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_WRITE = &H20000

      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_EXECUTE = &H20000

      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_REQUIRED = &HF0000

      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_ALL = &H1F0000

      Const KEY_QUERY_VALUE = &H1

      Const KEY_SET_VALUE = &H2

      Const KEY_CREATE_SUB_KEY = &H4

      Const KEY_ENUMERATE_SUB_KEYS = &H8

      Const KEY_NOTIFY = &H10

      Const KEY_CREATE_LINK = &H20

      Const KEY_READ = ((STANDARD_RIGHTS_READ Or _

                        KEY_QUERY_VALUE Or _

                        KEY_ENUMERATE_SUB_KEYS Or _

                        KEY_NOTIFY) And _

                        (Not SYNCHRONIZE))

 

      Const REG_DWORD = 4

      Const REG_BINARY = 3

      Const REG_SZ = 1

      

      Const ODBC_ADD_SYS_DSN = 4

      

 

Function Check_SDSN()

 

         '  Look for our System Data Source Name.  If we find it, then

great!

         '  If not, then let's create one on the fly.

         

         Dim lngKeyHandle As Long

         Dim lngResult As Long

         Dim lngCurIdx As Long

         Dim strValue As String

         Dim classValue As String

         Dim timeValue As String

         Dim lngValueLen As Long

         Dim classlngValueLen As Long

         Dim lngData As Long

         Dim lngDataLen As Long

         Dim strResult As String

         Dim DSNfound As Long

         Dim syscmdresult As Long

 

         syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdSetStatus, "Looking for System DSN "

& JDS_DSN_name & " ...")

         

         '  Let's open the registry key that contains all of the

         '  System Data Source Names.

         

         lngResult = RegOpenKeyEx(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, _

                 "SOFTWARE\ODBC\ODBC.INI", _

                  0&, _

                  KEY_READ, _

                  lngKeyHandle)

 

         If lngResult <> ERROR_SUCCESS Then

             MsgBox "ERROR:  Cannot open the registry key

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ODBC\ODBC.INI." & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _

                    "Please make sure that ODBC and the SQL Server ODBC

drivers have been installed." & vbCrLf & _

                    "Contact call your MDTS System Administrator for more

information."

             syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdClearStatus)

             Check_SDSN = -1

         End If

         

         ' Now that the key is open, Let's look among all of

         ' the possible system data source names for the one

         ' we want.

 

         lngCurIdx = 0

         DSNfound = False

         

         Do

            lngValueLen = 512

            classlngValueLen = 512

            strValue = String(lngValueLen, 0)

            classValue = String(classlngValueLen, 0)

            timeValue = String(lngValueLen, 0)

            lngDataLen = 512

 

            lngResult = RegEnumKeyEx(lngKeyHandle, _

                                     lngCurIdx, _

                                     strValue, _

                                     lngValueLen, _

                                     0&, _

                                     classValue, _

                                     classlngValueLen, _

                                     timeValue)

            lngCurIdx = lngCurIdx + 1

 

         If lngResult = ERROR_SUCCESS Then

         

           ' Is this our System Data Source Name?

         

           If strValue = JDS_DSN_name Then

           

             '  It is!  Let's assume everything is good and do nothing.

             

             DSNfound = True

             syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdClearStatus)

         

           End If

           

         End If

 

         Loop While lngResult = ERROR_SUCCESS And Not DSNfound

         

         Call RegCloseKey(lngKeyHandle)

 

         If Not DSNfound Then

         

           '  Our System Data Source Name doesn't exist, so let's

           '  try to create it on the fly.

         

           syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdSetStatus, "Creating System DSN " &

JDS_DSN_name & "...")

         

           lngResult = SQLConfigDataSource(0, _

                                           ODBC_ADD_SYS_DSN, _

                                           "SQL Server", _

                                           "DSN=" & JDS_DSN_name & Chr(0) &

_

                                           "Server=" & JDS_Server_name &

Chr(0) & _

                                           "Database=FranchiseReg" & Chr(0)

& _

                                           "UseProcForPrepare=Yes" & Chr(0)

& _

                                           "Network=dbmssocn" & Chr(0) & _

                                           "Description=Franchise" & Chr(0)

& Chr(0))

                       

           If lngResult = False Then

           

             MsgBox "ERROR:  Could not create the System DSN " &

JDS_DSN_name & "." & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _

                    "Please make sure that the SQL Server ODBC drivers have

been installed." & vbCrLf & _

                    "Contact your System Administrator for more

information."

                    

             syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdClearStatus)

             Check_SDSN = -1

 

           End If

           

         End If

         

         syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdClearStatus)

         Check_SDSN = 0

 

End Function

'*********************** Code End ***************************

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Jeffrey Majchrzak [mailto:jmajchrz at nycap.rr.com] 

Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 10:03 AM

To: accessD at databaseadvisors.com

Subject: [AccessD] Creating a DSN via code

 

 

I have an application that is going to have the backend upsized to SQL

Server 2000.  This application sits on about 50 desktops.  Would anyone have

any code examples that I can view to create a DSN connection?  The DSN will

have the same username and password for all users so I would like the code

to auto fill the username and password when creating the DSN.  

 

 

 

Thank you in advance for all your help.

 

 

 

Jeffrey Majchrzak

 

Empire Computer Consulting

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From garykjos at hotmail.com  Fri Apr  9 13:15:34 2004
From: garykjos at hotmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 13:15:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] cumulative record count question
Message-ID: <BAY2-F90NklPSADZfa80003d321@hotmail.com>

>>>>>The problem is when the 10th thru the 15th record are the same values 
>>>>>all of
>them show up! <<<<<

Hopefully you have some sort of Unique Key or something you could include to 
sort by so you don't get the "ties" included.  You don't have to include it 
in the output results, just in the order by part.

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From j.frederick at att.net  Fri Apr  9 13:22:05 2004
From: j.frederick at att.net (John Frederick)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 14:22:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Creating a DSN via code
In-Reply-To: <200404091503.i39F36df010970@ms-smtp-01.nyroc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <KIEBKJDMKEHOPCJLKNAFCECOCIAA.j.frederick@att.net>

I suggest that you:

1.  Use the DSN wizard that you get in Control Pane\ODBC to make a file DSN
for your SQL Server link.  Save it where you can find it.  This gets you a
working Connection string the easy way.
2.  Open the file DSN with notepad and make the contents the body of a
DSN-less Connection string in your code.  It sounds like it can be
completely canned and the same for all your workstations.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jeffrey
Majchrzak
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 11:03 AM
To: accessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Creating a DSN via code


I have an application that is going to have the backend upsized to SQL
Server 2000.  This application sits on about 50 desktops.  Would anyone have
any code examples that I can view to create a DSN connection?  The DSN will
have the same username and password for all users so I would like the code
to auto fill the username and password when creating the DSN.



Thank you in advance for all your help.



Jeffrey Majchrzak

Empire Computer Consulting

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From mastercafe at ctv.es  Fri Apr  9 19:02:04 2004
From: mastercafe at ctv.es (MastercafeCTV)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 02:02:04 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] My details
In-Reply-To: <200404091308.i39D8VB10981@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <007901c41e8f$0f2dc170$0300a8c0@masterserver>

TAKE CARE WITH ALL MAIL SIMILAR OF THIS.
The attachment archive is a potential worm.

Juan Menendez Crespo

================================
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c/ Pi?eres 4, 1?D (33430 Candas - Asturias)
Juan Menendez Crespo juan at mastercafe.com
www.mastercafe.com
info at mastercafe.com
================================


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
budge at magicaldesk.com
Sent: viernes, 09 de abril de 2004 15:09
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] My details


Hello!
Please notice the attached detailed document.
Thank you

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From mastercafe at ctv.es  Fri Apr  9 19:39:00 2004
From: mastercafe at ctv.es (MastercafeCTV)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 02:39:00 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Password VBA Problem
In-Reply-To: <20040409135009.DXGI1810.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <000001c41e94$378fa390$0300a8c0@masterserver>

Hi group, last week we make a big stupidity. Trying to protect our
application we introduce password protection on the main MDB but I don't
know how actually the main MDB have not the password but the VBA Code yes.
We try to unlock the password but was impossible, the application said that
There isn't password protect, but if you try to edit some code they take
PASSWORD PROTECT.
The big problem is that the password that we put we can't try to rewrite, I
suppose that the number and letters have a little difference. We download
all utilities to recover the password, but all said the same NOT PASSWORD
PROTECT.

What can we do??
Are there any tool to unlock this??

We try with ACPR, AccessKey, and another 5 similar utilities. We check the
MDB for a possible corrupted file, but the program run perfectly... only
can't access to the main source code.

Thanks in advance

Juan Menendez Crespo


================================
Mastercafe S.L. NIF - B82.617.614
c/ Pi?eres 4, 1?D (33430 Candas - Asturias)
Juan Menendez Crespo juan at mastercafe.com
www.mastercafe.com
info at mastercafe.com
================================




From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Sat Apr 10 07:26:02 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 08:26:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Password VBA Problem
In-Reply-To: <000001c41e94$378fa390$0300a8c0@masterserver>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKKEGFIPAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Juan,

  All the utilities have failed because the password you applied is for the
VBA project file.  That is not the same as the database password and it is
not user level Access (workgroup) security.

  I have never seen any code floating around to do handle that nor have I
seen any utilities.  I'm sure it's one of those things that Microsoft
actively tries to keep to a minimum as it would not apply only to Access,
but every other product that uses VBA as well.

  Unless someone on list knows how to tackle it, I would suggest a Google
search, but I think you'll find that your out of luck.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MastercafeCTV
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 8:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Password VBA Problem


Hi group, last week we make a big stupidity. Trying to protect our
application we introduce password protection on the main MDB but I don't
know how actually the main MDB have not the password but the VBA Code yes.
We try to unlock the password but was impossible, the application said that
There isn't password protect, but if you try to edit some code they take
PASSWORD PROTECT.
The big problem is that the password that we put we can't try to rewrite, I
suppose that the number and letters have a little difference. We download
all utilities to recover the password, but all said the same NOT PASSWORD
PROTECT.

What can we do??
Are there any tool to unlock this??

We try with ACPR, AccessKey, and another 5 similar utilities. We check the
MDB for a possible corrupted file, but the program run perfectly... only
can't access to the main source code.

Thanks in advance

Juan Menendez Crespo


================================
Mastercafe S.L. NIF - B82.617.614
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From mastercafe at ctv.es  Sat Apr 10 09:57:42 2004
From: mastercafe at ctv.es (MastercafeCTV)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 16:57:42 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Password VBA Problem SOLVED
In-Reply-To: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKKEGFIPAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <000001c41f0c$2d398730$0300a8c0@masterserver>

Finally only 40h working to detect the problem and the solution was easy:

We have a first problem with the main MDB file with some Query's with a
corrupted part that Compact & Repair don't repair. We eliminate this....

Second part use the VBAKey 6.3 from www.lostpassword.com (registred version
to see all password) and ready, we obtain the main password for VBA project.

Import all tables, queries, forms, macros, and vba modules in a new MDB
file.


Solved the password problem


Hope this solution can help another programmers like with pwd problems.

Juan Menendez Crespo
MASTERCAFE


================================
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c/ Pi?eres 4, 1?D (33430 Candas - Asturias)
Juan Menendez Crespo juan at mastercafe.com
www.mastercafe.com
info at mastercafe.com
================================


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: s?bado, 10 de abril de 2004 14:26
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Password VBA Problem

Juan,

  All the utilities have failed because the password you applied is for the
VBA project file.  That is not the same as the database password and it is
not user level Access (workgroup) security.

  I have never seen any code floating around to do handle that nor have I
seen any utilities.  I'm sure it's one of those things that Microsoft
actively tries to keep to a minimum as it would not apply only to Access,
but every other product that uses VBA as well.

  Unless someone on list knows how to tackle it, I would suggest a Google
search, but I think you'll find that your out of luck.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MastercafeCTV
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 8:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Password VBA Problem


Hi group, last week we make a big stupidity. Trying to protect our
application we introduce password protection on the main MDB but I don't
know how actually the main MDB have not the password but the VBA Code yes.
We try to unlock the password but was impossible, the application said that
There isn't password protect, but if you try to edit some code they take
PASSWORD PROTECT.
The big problem is that the password that we put we can't try to rewrite, I
suppose that the number and letters have a little difference. We download
all utilities to recover the password, but all said the same NOT PASSWORD
PROTECT.

What can we do??
Are there any tool to unlock this??

We try with ACPR, AccessKey, and another 5 similar utilities. We check the
MDB for a possible corrupted file, but the program run perfectly... only
can't access to the main source code.

Thanks in advance

Juan Menendez Crespo


================================
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c/ Pi?eres 4, 1?D (33430 Candas - Asturias)
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www.mastercafe.com
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From spikee at oatlandspark.org.uk  Sat Apr 10 10:08:33 2004
From: spikee at oatlandspark.org.uk (Chris Foote (Spike))
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 16:08:33 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Password VBA Problem SOLVED
Message-ID: <NBBBJDKBBONNJNBIILLHOEFJDEAA.spikee@oatlandspark.org.uk>

Glad you got it sorted-out Juan!

Thanks for posting your solution.

Best regards!

Chris Foote - UK

spike at ugandanetwork.org.uk

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MastercafeCTV
Sent: 10 April 2004 15:58
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Password VBA Problem SOLVED


Finally only 40h working to detect the problem and the solution was easy:

---------(Snip)---------




From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Sat Apr 10 14:43:36 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 20:43:36 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] BEU Enhancement
In-Reply-To: <FKEBJOENDDBJHLINGOBHEEHBFFAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>
Message-ID: <01b901c41f34$1dd9f400$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Concur with Reuben. Exactly what I do.
-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Reuben Cummings
> Sent: 09 April 2004 16:33
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] BEU Enhancement
> 
> 
> I have added tables like mad to some db's and never had a 
> problem.  This issue was covered in development (unless I 
> don't understand what you are saying).
> 
> There is a function to check what tables to relink or not 
> relink (beuDBACheckLink).
> 
> In my relinking code I have the following line:
> If beuDBACheckLink(tdf.name, strFileName) Then
> 
> Are you sure you placed this call in the relinker as stated 
> in the manual? Re-Read PAGES 2 AND 3 of the BEU manual to see 
> what to call and where to place it.
> 
> I suggest we thoroughly explore the beuDBACheckLink module 
> and the call from the relinker before making any changes to code.
> 
> Reuben Cummings
> GFC, LLC
> phone: 812.523.1017
> email: reuben at gfconsultants.com
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Bryan 
> > Carbonnell
> > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 12:12 PM
> > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] BEU Enchancement
> >
> >
> > I've ran across this problem, or one very similar, in the 
> past couple 
> > of weeks.
> >
> > I won't say this is the prefered fix for it, since this is Reuben's 
> > function, but it's what I did to make it work. Please feel free to 
> > pass this on to the person using it:
> >
> > In the beuDBAValidateBEPathnction of the 
> basbeuDBAisdbuptodate module:
> >
> > Maybe 15 lines down, or so, the line that starts, and 
> continues on for 
> > 4 lines strSQL = "SELECT ....
> >
> > replace it with, and watch fro wrapping:
> >
> > strSQL = "SELECT tblDBAModifyDatabase.ParameterValue,
> > tblDBAModifyDatabaseMods.HowCounter" _
> >     & " FROM tblDBAModifyDatabaseMods INNER JOIN 
> tblDBAModifyDatabase 
> > ON tblDBAModifyDatabaseMods.ModNumber = 
> > tblDBAModifyDatabase.ModNumber" _
> >     & " WHERE tblDBAModifyDatabaseMods.WhatCounter=2 AND 
> > tblDBAModifyDatabaseMods.HowCounter=2" _
> >     & " AND tblDBAModifyDatabaseMods.State<>-1;"
> >
> > What this does is allows the link validation to take place 
> on a table 
> > added by the BEU as long as it's was added correctly and 
> had it's mod 
> > state cahnged to True.
> >
> > Now, I am using an Alpha of V2, so (s)he *may* need to 
> tweak it a bit 
> > for V 1.58, but I don't think it will be necessary.
> >
> > Bryan Carbonnell
> > bryan_carbonnelL at cbc.ca
> >
> >
> > >>> jimdettman at earthlink.net 08-Apr-04 12:49:34 PM >>>
> > Reuben, Andy, Lembit, or Bryan
> >
> >   I recommended the BEU to someone and their using 
> relinking code in 
> > their app.  The problem is, it quits the app if a relink cannot be 
> > performed on a
> > table, which is the case when you add a new table via the BEU.  To
> > help
> > developers around that problem, I would suggest adding a 
> function call
> > that
> > checks the BEU task list and returns True if it finds the 
> table name.
> > Example:
> >
> > ' In relink code
> >
> > If Not IsNewBEUTable(strTableName) then
> >    ' Relink the table
> > End If
> >
> >
> > ' Function added to BEU.
> > Public Function IsNewBEUTable(strTableName as string) as integer
> >
> >   ' Check BEU task table to see if strTableName is added
> >   ' Pass back True if found or False if not.
> >
> > End Function
> >
> >   I'm not sure exactly what needs to be done to actually 
> identifiy the 
> > table in the task list because I haven't dug deep enough, but I 
> > thought I'd pass
> > along the suggestion at least.
> >
> > Jim Dettman
> > President,
> > Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
> > (315) 699-3443
> > jimdettman at earthlink.net
> >
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From artful at rogers.com  Sat Apr 10 19:52:31 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 17:52:31 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG
In-Reply-To: <4425303804.20040402155722@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <015101c41f5f$455e2b10$6501a8c0@rock>

The bug is that Format() creates a string not a date field. To get
accurate date order, include the date field as well but don't show it,
just order by it.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 5:57 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG


Hi Sander

Well - but what is the bug and how did you solve it?

/gustav


> Hi gustav,
 
> I've solved the problem. Twas a nasty one.
> but euh try it if you want. create a table with a date field like 
> below and run the query...no go!
 
> Thanx anyway.
 
> Sander


> Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi Sander

> Your "stupid" test is correct as it sorts DESC on a string.

> Try this which I think is what Bert-Jan has in mind:

> SELECT DISTINCT
> Format([TblArbo].[Datum], "dd-mmm-yyyy")
> FROM
> TblArbo
> ORDER BY
> [TblArbo].[Datum] DESC;

> /gustav


>> I've got a combobox based on a query:
>> SELECT DISTINCT [TblArbo].[Datum]
>> FROM TblArbo
>> ORDER BY [TblArbo].[Datum] DESC;
>> Resulted in:
>> 01-10-2003
>> 02-09-2003
>> 21-08-2001

>> The user asked if this could be printed in the following format: 
>> dd-mmm-yyyy No problem, says stupid me: SELECT DISTINCT 
>> Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy")
>> FROM TblArbo
>> ORDER BY Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy") DESC;

>> But now the ORDER BY ONLY checks the DD part?!?!?!?!
>> So this results in:
>> 21-08-2001

>> 02-09-2003
>> 01-10-2003
>> ?!!??! What kind of nonsense is this?

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From artful at rogers.com  Sat Apr 10 20:19:11 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 18:19:11 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <000b01c41bed$e465ea60$9111758f@aine>
Message-ID: <015801c41f62$fedb2f90$6501a8c0@rock>

IMO there would be a significant shift in the Linux world if somebody
released something even close to Access. Yeah, there's Jbuilder and
Kylix and such, and a few dbAdmin apps for MySQL, but there is no free
or inexpensive RAD db dev app for Linux... And until there is, few if
any of us will move our businesses there.

If I were good enough to clone Access, I'd do it. Sadly, I'm not. It
would take several programmers a year or more. Let's face it, Access is
a brilliant piece of work, despite its bugs and its price. Tough to
clone and deliver the equivalent functionality, especially given VBA, a
project unto itself. 

Borland has done well, but their solution is pricy. Yeah, you can grab a
small version free but it's missing all the components you would need
for real-world dev, so how does that help? IMO they would do much better
with a free 120-day licensing scheme, so you could actually try to build
something serious, and if it looks like it's gonna work, then you can
click the button and pay the money.

A further complication in attempting to clone Access for Linux is the
multiple targets. You could do as MS did and begin with one target, and
publish an API to invite other players into the mix -- the Linux
equivalent of ODBC, hopefully done smarter and better. Probably start
with MySQL, then as you gained groundswell, expand the targets to
include maybe PostGres and Cache, leaving Oracle etc. to their vendors
to write using the API. Big work.

Some of the stuff has been written already and is open-source so it can
be grabbed with a thang-ya-very-much, but the job remains huge... IMO
way way beyond the scope of one brilliant developer. Needs a team of
brilliant developers plus an architect. AFACS, the Linux community is
not interested, or to put it more graciously, realizes the size of the
problem and is not interested.

If there was an Access clone in the Linux world, I would IMMEDIATELY
recommend to all my clients that they abandon Windows. But there isn't,
and so despite my emotional/political slant, I am forced to recommend
Windows solutions -- it works, and it's RAD, and that means it's
relatively cheap.

I would so much prefer to recommend some product called MyAccess, which
works with MySQL and maybe other Linux databases, but until that
emerges, I have to say that Access is the cheap way to go. I can ship
runtimes if you don't want to pay the licensing for Access on every box.
This assumes a WindX environment, but if the bottom line and the ROI
matter, then Win + Access win. I don't like it much, but that's how I
see it. Wish it were otherwise.

Arthur



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 8:43 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: open source


WHy should we move?

Money, costs us a fortune for MS licences


Martin


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 4:24 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: open source


> But why should they?
>
> Susan H.
>
> >From our point of view it would be difficult in terms of
> money and infrastructure to change over. The amount of work would be
massive
> requiring a substantial investment in both hardware, software and
training.
>
> Its not impossible just take the will to make the move.
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Apr 11 21:14:14 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 22:14:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Framework Discussion page rebuild
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPOEIJHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

I have gone through all of the discussions and built a specific mdb and
matching document zipped as a pair in a zip file.  The framework discussion
page on my site now has 12 "chapters" built in this manner.  This should
make following the document easier.  Anyone going through the new document /
database who finds any issues please email me offline to let me know and I
will attempt to get such issues fixed and reposted.  I did have to go carve
out some of the chapters from the databases where I had just updated the db
for several chapters so there may be a few issues.  Again, I will attempt to
fix any issues brought to my attention and repost.

In the future, all documents will be built with a matching database as the
document is written and so should match "exactly".

More are on the way.  I use a class for Openargs that parse the args and
apply known framework args directly.  This lecture is almost finished.  If
anyone has any suggestions for future lectures please contact me offline or
post them here if you want to stimulate discussion.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com




From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Mon Apr 12 00:51:37 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 00:51:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Wolfwares Archives temporarily offline!
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227AA9@main2.marlow.com>

Just an FYI, I was in the middle of moving, so I am just now getting a
chance to send this email.  The archives at http://www.wolfwares.com/AccessD
are temporarily offline.  I have my server at work, hooked up to a T1, but
it's setup specifically for some other stuff I am hosting.  DSL at my new
place is supposed to be online this Thursday, so the archives will be back
up then.

Drew

P.S.-- This was a planned move (sort of...didn't plan enough! LOL), nothing
like I've had to deal with in the past.  I am exhausted though.  Drew's
living arrangements puts the Atkins diet to shame! LOL.


From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Mon Apr 12 10:19:02 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 10:19:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] MS product deployment through an IIS server
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227AAD@main2.marlow.com>

Are you talking about Outlook Web Access? (OWA for short)

OWA is a component of Microsoft Exchange. It is a 'web site' built with ASP
pages.  Pretty slick, but as far as I know, there are no Word, Excel or
Access equivalents.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
(AccessD)
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 1:23 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] MS product deployment through an IIS server


Hi All:

Does anyone know the method or where to get information on deploying an
application through an IIS server (version 5plus) via your web browser. My
understanding is that all MS products can be ran in this way. I have been
looking at one application, Outlook, that is ran through an IIS server, from
work and can pick up and respond to the mail messages as if I was
there...eliminates the need for hotmail and the like.

If this is so, and the applications do not require a complete re-write, it
opens up an interesting set of possibilities.

TIA
Jim


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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Mon Apr 12 10:21:52 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 10:21:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227AAE@main2.marlow.com>

Learn ASP first.  PHP....yeck.  LOL.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren DICK
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 9:17 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved


Chicken - yes
I have people here wanting me to Learn ASP and PHP pronto, but I don't wanna
(says he, stamping his foot)

Thanks again
I did get it solved using the create Number method then changing the
attributes of the number data type to 
something very similar to what you described in one 
of your original posts

BTW - you gonna share the splenda choc chip recipe with the list? :-))

Darren


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:54 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved


> Chicken. ;) ... And thank you -- will be stuffing eggs before the day is
> through -- and have a great weekend yourself! :) 
> 
> I haven't had a peep yet -- not one. 
> 
> FWIW, if you don't get this resolved I'd be glad to hand over the exact
code
> -- I have it somewhere, just a matter of finding it. :) 
> 
> Susan H. 
> 
> Thanks Susan
> I struggle - and I mean struggle - with VBA I have seen code examples in
the
> 2000 Developer for ADOX. It looks quite relative to VB and VBA but I think
I
> will give it a miss.
> :-))
> (Thanks but no thanks - luddite here)
> 
> Have a great day and a safe Easter
> 
> Thanks again for your help
> 
> Darren
> 
> 
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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Mon Apr 12 13:08:44 2004
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 11:08:44 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2000 error
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPOEIJHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <001001c420b9$31cb9280$8500a8c0@CX615377a>

Folks,

I inherited an Access 2000 database to do some work on.  I have not done
anything to the wizard built switchboard but it now breaks an the line
"Set con = Application.CurrentProject.Connection".  Checked the
references and MS data objects active-x library 2.1 is checked.  When I
type in the same line auto completion fills in all the correct items so
the terminology is correct for the given references.  Any idea why this
thing is breaking?

Doug






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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 7:14 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Framework Discussion page rebuild


I have gone through all of the discussions and built a specific mdb and
matching document zipped as a pair in a zip file.  The framework
discussion page on my site now has 12 "chapters" built in this manner.
This should make following the document easier.  Anyone going through
the new document / database who finds any issues please email me offline
to let me know and I will attempt to get such issues fixed and reposted.
I did have to go carve out some of the chapters from the databases where
I had just updated the db for several chapters so there may be a few
issues.  Again, I will attempt to fix any issues brought to my attention
and repost.

In the future, all documents will be built with a matching database as
the document is written and so should match "exactly".

More are on the way.  I use a class for Openargs that parse the args and
apply known framework args directly.  This lecture is almost finished.
If anyone has any suggestions for future lectures please contact me
offline or post them here if you want to stimulate discussion.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Mon Apr 12 13:33:25 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 13:33:25 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2000 error
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227AB2@main2.marlow.com>

That is DAO you have set.  You need ADO, which is Microsoft ActiveX Data
Objects. (I personally set 2.5)

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Doug Murphy
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 1:09 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2000 error


Folks,

I inherited an Access 2000 database to do some work on.  I have not done
anything to the wizard built switchboard but it now breaks an the line
"Set con = Application.CurrentProject.Connection".  Checked the
references and MS data objects active-x library 2.1 is checked.  When I
type in the same line auto completion fills in all the correct items so
the terminology is correct for the given references.  Any idea why this
thing is breaking?

Doug






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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 7:14 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Framework Discussion page rebuild


I have gone through all of the discussions and built a specific mdb and
matching document zipped as a pair in a zip file.  The framework
discussion page on my site now has 12 "chapters" built in this manner.
This should make following the document easier.  Anyone going through
the new document / database who finds any issues please email me offline
to let me know and I will attempt to get such issues fixed and reposted.
I did have to go carve out some of the chapters from the databases where
I had just updated the db for several chapters so there may be a few
issues.  Again, I will attempt to fix any issues brought to my attention
and repost.

In the future, all documents will be built with a matching database as
the document is written and so should match "exactly".

More are on the way.  I use a class for Openargs that parse the args and
apply known framework args directly.  This lecture is almost finished.
If anyone has any suggestions for future lectures please contact me
offline or post them here if you want to stimulate discussion.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Mon Apr 12 13:35:57 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 13:35:57 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions
Message-ID: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE4F2@TAPPEEXCH01>

I recall a discussion a while back about discount sources for MSDN
subscriptions.  We are looking to purchase 5 subscriptions, either
Enterprise or possibly Universal depending on the pricing.  
 
I found the Universal box here for $1135 (with an additional $300 DVD media
discount!):
http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696
<http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696> 
 
Can anyone top this?

Brett Barabash, MCP 
Tappe Construction, Co. 
Eagan, MN 
bbarabash at tappeconstruction.com 
(651) 256-6831 

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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Mon Apr 12 13:39:14 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 13:39:14 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions
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Oops, I posted the link to the upgrade version ($1135).  The full version is
$1200:
http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=589

(@$#!%? price comparison engines...)

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I recall a discussion a while back about discount sources for MSDN
subscriptions.  We are looking to purchase 5 subscriptions, either
Enterprise or possibly Universal depending on the pricing.  
 
I found the Universal box here for $1135 (with an additional $300 DVD media
discount!):
http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696
<http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696> 
 
Can anyone top this?

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Tappe Construction, Co. 
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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Mon Apr 12 13:43:38 2004
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 11:43:38 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2000 error
In-Reply-To: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227AB2@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <001101c420be$14baad70$8500a8c0@CX615377a>

The ActiveX Data Objects 2.1 (ADO) is checked I just reversed the order
of the words in my original message. My dyslexia is showing.  Tried 2.5
and got the same message.

This may be one of the AccessXP/2000 anomolies.  When I move the DB to
my XP development machine it works fine.  It compiles on both machines.
???

Doug




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DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 11:33 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 2000 error


That is DAO you have set.  You need ADO, which is Microsoft ActiveX Data
Objects. (I personally set 2.5)

Drew

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Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 1:09 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2000 error


Folks,

I inherited an Access 2000 database to do some work on.  I have not done
anything to the wizard built switchboard but it now breaks an the line
"Set con = Application.CurrentProject.Connection".  Checked the
references and MS data objects active-x library 2.1 is checked.  When I
type in the same line auto completion fills in all the correct items so
the terminology is correct for the given references.  Any idea why this
thing is breaking?

Doug






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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 7:14 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Framework Discussion page rebuild


I have gone through all of the discussions and built a specific mdb and
matching document zipped as a pair in a zip file.  The framework
discussion page on my site now has 12 "chapters" built in this manner.
This should make following the document easier.  Anyone going through
the new document / database who finds any issues please email me offline
to let me know and I will attempt to get such issues fixed and reposted.
I did have to go carve out some of the chapters from the databases where
I had just updated the db for several chapters so there may be a few
issues.  Again, I will attempt to fix any issues brought to my attention
and repost.

In the future, all documents will be built with a matching database as
the document is written and so should match "exactly".

More are on the way.  I use a class for Openargs that parse the args and
apply known framework args directly.  This lecture is almost finished.
If anyone has any suggestions for future lectures please contact me
offline or post them here if you want to stimulate discussion.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Mon Apr 12 13:57:45 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 14:57:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions
In-Reply-To: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE4F3@TAPPEEXCH01>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKMEINIPAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Brett,

  I paid $1175 for my Universal subscription, so your $1200 is not that far
off.  I'm not sure if the folks I deal with would cut you a deal considering
that your thinking of 5 or not, but here is a contact:

Sheldon Scheu
AKS Web Services, LLC

sheldon at akswebservices.com

  Please mention my name.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 2:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions


Oops, I posted the link to the upgrade version ($1135).  The full version is
$1200:
http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=589

(@$#!%? price comparison engines...)

-----Original Message-----
From: Brett Barabash [mailto:BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com]
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 1:36 PM
To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions


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I recall a discussion a while back about discount sources for MSDN
subscriptions.  We are looking to purchase 5 subscriptions, either
Enterprise or possibly Universal depending on the pricing.

I found the Universal box here for $1135 (with an additional $300 DVD media
discount!):
http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696
<http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696>

Can anyone top this?

Brett Barabash, MCP
Tappe Construction, Co.
Eagan, MN
bbarabash at tappeconstruction.com
(651) 256-6831

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Mon Apr 12 14:02:05 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 14:02:05 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2000 error
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227AB3@main2.marlow.com>

Very odd.  I was wondering if you just switched the words around, cause I
thought DAO was 'Data Access Objects'.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Doug Murphy
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 1:44 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 2000 error


The ActiveX Data Objects 2.1 (ADO) is checked I just reversed the order
of the words in my original message. My dyslexia is showing.  Tried 2.5
and got the same message.

This may be one of the AccessXP/2000 anomolies.  When I move the DB to
my XP development machine it works fine.  It compiles on both machines.
???

Doug




-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 11:33 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 2000 error


That is DAO you have set.  You need ADO, which is Microsoft ActiveX Data
Objects. (I personally set 2.5)

Drew

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Doug Murphy
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 1:09 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2000 error


Folks,

I inherited an Access 2000 database to do some work on.  I have not done
anything to the wizard built switchboard but it now breaks an the line
"Set con = Application.CurrentProject.Connection".  Checked the
references and MS data objects active-x library 2.1 is checked.  When I
type in the same line auto completion fills in all the correct items so
the terminology is correct for the given references.  Any idea why this
thing is breaking?

Doug






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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 7:14 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Framework Discussion page rebuild


I have gone through all of the discussions and built a specific mdb and
matching document zipped as a pair in a zip file.  The framework
discussion page on my site now has 12 "chapters" built in this manner.
This should make following the document easier.  Anyone going through
the new document / database who finds any issues please email me offline
to let me know and I will attempt to get such issues fixed and reposted.
I did have to go carve out some of the chapters from the databases where
I had just updated the db for several chapters so there may be a few
issues.  Again, I will attempt to fix any issues brought to my attention
and repost.

In the future, all documents will be built with a matching database as
the document is written and so should match "exactly".

More are on the way.  I use a class for Openargs that parse the args and
apply known framework args directly.  This lecture is almost finished.
If anyone has any suggestions for future lectures please contact me
offline or post them here if you want to stimulate discussion.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


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From COUTTSW at rjrt.com  Mon Apr 12 14:48:11 2004
From: COUTTSW at rjrt.com (Coutts, Welford L.)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 15:48:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Separating First and Last Names
Message-ID: <1731B69D9D03DB49881574BBECDE6CAC675D88@wsmailp1.rjr.com>

I have received a large file containing a large number of Full Names.
I need to separate the First Name and Middle Initial, if any, into one field
and the Last Name into a separate field.
 
What is the most efficient way to do this?
 
Thanks!
 
Welford Coutts
 
 




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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Mon Apr 12 15:19:23 2004
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 16:19:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions
Message-ID: <806536912C472E4A9D6515DF2E57261E2397BF@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Why is this so cheap?
Microsoft advertises it for $2,799.
What am I missing?

JR

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Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 2:58 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions

Brett,

  I paid $1175 for my Universal subscription, so your $1200 is not that far
off.  I'm not sure if the folks I deal with would cut you a deal considering
that your thinking of 5 or not, but here is a contact:

Sheldon Scheu
AKS Web Services, LLC

sheldon at akswebservices.com

  Please mention my name.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 2:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions


Oops, I posted the link to the upgrade version ($1135).  The full version is
$1200:
http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=589

(@$#!%? price comparison engines...)

-----Original Message-----
From: Brett Barabash [mailto:BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com]
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 1:36 PM
To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions


--------------Please open with care!------------
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I recall a discussion a while back about discount sources for MSDN
subscriptions.  We are looking to purchase 5 subscriptions, either
Enterprise or possibly Universal depending on the pricing.

I found the Universal box here for $1135 (with an additional $300 DVD media
discount!):
http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696
<http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696>

Can anyone top this?

Brett Barabash, MCP
Tappe Construction, Co.
Eagan, MN
bbarabash at tappeconstruction.com
(651) 256-6831

"One thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a
cardboard box and sit in a warehouse."  -Jack Handey



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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Mon Apr 12 15:24:00 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 16:24:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Separating First and Last Names
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Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 168799
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http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=168799

Pay particular attention to the assumptions...but this should give you a
good start.


Mark


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Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 3:48 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Separating First and Last Names


I have received a large file containing a large number of Full Names.
I need to separate the First Name and Middle Initial, if any, into one field
and the Last Name into a separate field.
 
What is the most efficient way to do this?
 
Thanks!
 
Welford Coutts
 
 




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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Apr 12 15:38:45 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 13:38:45 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Separating First and Last Names
References: <1731B69D9D03DB49881574BBECDE6CAC675D88@wsmailp1.rjr.com>
Message-ID: <017201c420ce$26b2a450$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Welford:

I can see all kinds of mines in that field but if they're regular (ie, first
name, space, middle initial if any followed by period and space, last name),
then it's easy to parse using INSTR.

The easiest would be to INSTR a period and break there if it found one.

If no period is found then next I would INSTR the first space and break it
there.

If there are middle initials without periods then you'd have to scan
backwards from the end of the name string, character by character, looking
for the first space and break it there.

This would be just a few lines of code and would execute fast enough so that
you could run it and eyeball the results and see how accurate the first pass
was.  Then begin to add rules to refine the results - take care of the
exceptions.

Does it have to be 100% perfect?  Are there titles on the Dr.s and Prof.s?
Are there any compound last names separated by a space?  Anyone with two
middle names?  Did I ask if it had to be 100% perfect?

HTH

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


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Subject: [AccessD] Separating First and Last Names


I have received a large file containing a large number of Full Names.
I need to separate the First Name and Middle Initial, if any, into one field
and the Last Name into a separate field.

What is the most efficient way to do this?

Thanks!

Welford Coutts






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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Mon Apr 12 15:46:03 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 15:46:03 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions
Message-ID: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE4F5@TAPPEEXCH01>

Thanks Jim.  I dropped your name in an email to him.

I'm not really that concerned about the nickels and dimes.  I'm more
concerned that we buy from a reputable source.  If his quote is in the same
ballpark as the other sources, I will recommend him instead.  It means more
to me that we are giving $6k  to a reputable source who will deliver the
proper goods.


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Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 1:58 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions

Brett,

  I paid $1175 for my Universal subscription, so your $1200 is not that far
off.  I'm not sure if the folks I deal with would cut you a deal considering
that your thinking of 5 or not, but here is a contact:

Sheldon Scheu
AKS Web Services, LLC

sheldon at akswebservices.com

  Please mention my name.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 2:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions


Oops, I posted the link to the upgrade version ($1135).  The full version is
$1200:
http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=589

(@$#!%? price comparison engines...)

-----Original Message-----
From: Brett Barabash [mailto:BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com]
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To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions


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I recall a discussion a while back about discount sources for MSDN
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Enterprise or possibly Universal depending on the pricing.

I found the Universal box here for $1135 (with an additional $300 DVD media
discount!):
http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696
<http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696>

Can anyone top this?

Brett Barabash, MCP
Tappe Construction, Co.
Eagan, MN
bbarabash at tappeconstruction.com
(651) 256-6831

"One thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a
cardboard box and sit in a warehouse."  -Jack Handey


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From Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us  Mon Apr 12 15:52:33 2004
From: Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us (O'Connor, Patricia  )
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 16:52:33 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Separating First and Last Names
Message-ID: <B94C79B465542042AB0748EAF37F9AC006D50A@EXCNYSM0A1AB.nysemail.nyenet>

Well it depends on how the input field is formatted. 
 
What if someone does not have a middle name? 
Is it middle name or just middle initial?
Are there suffixes or titles in the name (Sr., Jr., Dr.)
What is done about people with two last names or last names with space in middle De Carlo etc.
 
I have some routines that were set up for this on mainframe - I might have converted them to vba but would have to search for them
 
Could always check Dev Ashish's site for a routine
 
Patti
 
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I have received a large file containing a large number of Full Names.
I need to separate the First Name and Middle Initial, if any, into one field
and the Last Name into a separate field.

What is the most efficient way to do this?

Thanks!

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From mikedorism at adelphia.net  Mon Apr 12 15:10:42 2004
From: mikedorism at adelphia.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 16:10:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Separating First and Last Names
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Message-ID: <000001c420ca$3c0d1730$130aa845@hargrove.internal>

If you have AccessXP (not sure if it is in lower versions), you could use
the Split function.

Doris Manning
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I have received a large file containing a large number of Full Names. I need
to separate the First Name and Middle Initial, if any, into one field and
the Last Name into a separate field.
 
What is the most efficient way to do this?
 
Thanks!
 
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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Mon Apr 12 16:10:45 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 17:10:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions
In-Reply-To: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE4F5@TAPPEEXCH01>
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Brett,

  I've purchased from them 2 years running and have not had any problems.  I
also know of several individuals who purchased through them and did not have
any problems either.

Jim
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 4:46 PM
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Thanks Jim.  I dropped your name in an email to him.

I'm not really that concerned about the nickels and dimes.  I'm more
concerned that we buy from a reputable source.  If his quote is in the same
ballpark as the other sources, I will recommend him instead.  It means more
to me that we are giving $6k  to a reputable source who will deliver the
proper goods.


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Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 1:58 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions

Brett,

  I paid $1175 for my Universal subscription, so your $1200 is not that far
off.  I'm not sure if the folks I deal with would cut you a deal considering
that your thinking of 5 or not, but here is a contact:

Sheldon Scheu
AKS Web Services, LLC

sheldon at akswebservices.com

  Please mention my name.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 2:39 PM
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Oops, I posted the link to the upgrade version ($1135).  The full version is
$1200:
http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=589

(@$#!%? price comparison engines...)

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I recall a discussion a while back about discount sources for MSDN
subscriptions.  We are looking to purchase 5 subscriptions, either
Enterprise or possibly Universal depending on the pricing.

I found the Universal box here for $1135 (with an additional $300 DVD media
discount!):
http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696
<http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696>

Can anyone top this?

Brett Barabash, MCP
Tappe Construction, Co.
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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Mon Apr 12 16:11:36 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 17:11:36 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions
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Joe,

  $2,799 is the "list" price.  Microsoft partners are allowed to sell for
what ever they can get up to list price.  Microsoft itself always sells at
list.

Jim Dettman
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Rojas
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 4:19 PM
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Why is this so cheap?
Microsoft advertises it for $2,799.
What am I missing?

JR

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Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 2:58 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions

Brett,

  I paid $1175 for my Universal subscription, so your $1200 is not that far
off.  I'm not sure if the folks I deal with would cut you a deal considering
that your thinking of 5 or not, but here is a contact:

Sheldon Scheu
AKS Web Services, LLC

sheldon at akswebservices.com

  Please mention my name.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 2:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions


Oops, I posted the link to the upgrade version ($1135).  The full version is
$1200:
http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=589

(@$#!%? price comparison engines...)

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions


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I recall a discussion a while back about discount sources for MSDN
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Enterprise or possibly Universal depending on the pricing.

I found the Universal box here for $1135 (with an additional $300 DVD media
discount!):
http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696
<http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696>

Can anyone top this?

Brett Barabash, MCP
Tappe Construction, Co.
Eagan, MN
bbarabash at tappeconstruction.com
(651) 256-6831

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From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Mon Apr 12 16:40:22 2004
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 16:40:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Get data from Word Doc - A2K
Message-ID: <FKEBJOENDDBJHLINGOBHOEICFFAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

I have a 393 page Word document that has data about bridges.  Every 3 pages
is one bridge meaning every third page is formatted exactly alike (Page 1
and Page 4 are alike, Page 2 and Page 5, Page 3 and 6).   There are about 10
pieces of data I would like to extract about every bridge, a little bit on
each of the three pages.

Is it possible to scan thru this document somehow and 'extract' these 10
items from it to Access?

I have tried to copy the document to Excel, but a lot of the text from Word
will end up in one cell rather than split into a cell of its own.

Thanks.

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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Mon Apr 12 16:58:20 2004
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 14:58:20 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2000 error
In-Reply-To: <001101c420be$14baad70$8500a8c0@CX615377a>
Message-ID: <000701c420d9$44db47b0$8500a8c0@CX615377a>

For what ever it is worth the error is apparently caused by the version
of Jet on the machine.  I installed the latest jet 4 service pack and
the problem went away.  Found a vague reference to this on the MS
knowledge base.

The original cause may have been that I was working on the DB in Access
XP/2000 format.  I then moved a copy to an actual version of Access 2000
on another machine to test before sending off to the customer.  After
hosing a previous DB I am carefull to open and recompile a DB when
moving back and forth between XP and 2000, but this seems different than
the vb6 dll thing.

Doug





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Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 11:44 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 2000 error


The ActiveX Data Objects 2.1 (ADO) is checked I just reversed the order
of the words in my original message. My dyslexia is showing.  Tried 2.5
and got the same message.

This may be one of the AccessXP/2000 anomolies.  When I move the DB to
my XP development machine it works fine.  It compiles on both machines.
???

Doug




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That is DAO you have set.  You need ADO, which is Microsoft ActiveX Data
Objects. (I personally set 2.5)

Drew

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Folks,

I inherited an Access 2000 database to do some work on.  I have not done
anything to the wizard built switchboard but it now breaks an the line
"Set con = Application.CurrentProject.Connection".  Checked the
references and MS data objects active-x library 2.1 is checked.  When I
type in the same line auto completion fills in all the correct items so
the terminology is correct for the given references.  Any idea why this
thing is breaking?

Doug






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Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 7:14 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Framework Discussion page rebuild


I have gone through all of the discussions and built a specific mdb and
matching document zipped as a pair in a zip file.  The framework
discussion page on my site now has 12 "chapters" built in this manner.
This should make following the document easier.  Anyone going through
the new document / database who finds any issues please email me offline
to let me know and I will attempt to get such issues fixed and reposted.
I did have to go carve out some of the chapters from the databases where
I had just updated the db for several chapters so there may be a few
issues.  Again, I will attempt to fix any issues brought to my attention
and repost.

In the future, all documents will be built with a matching database as
the document is written and so should match "exactly".

More are on the way.  I use a class for Openargs that parse the args and
apply known framework args directly.  This lecture is almost finished.
If anyone has any suggestions for future lectures please contact me
offline or post them here if you want to stimulate discussion.

John W. Colby
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Apr 12 20:44:13 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 18:44:13 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2000 error
References: <001101c420be$14baad70$8500a8c0@CX615377a>
Message-ID: <407B45ED.4090205@shaw.ca>

The default install of MDAC on WinXP is 2.7
If you have multiple installs of  MDAC on your system. the highest level 
of the MDAC points to
MSADO15.dll  Lower levels of ADO  MDAC point to a .tlb file like MSADO26.tlb
 On  my system I have Access 97 and 2003 installed so I have MDAC 2.1 
installed as well due to 97 being there.
 So my selection of references is
 ADO  2.7  ---- MSADO15.dll
 ADO  2.6  ---- MSADO26.tlb
 ADO  2.5  ---- MSADO25.tlb
 ADO  2.1  ---- MSADO21.tlb
I would check what file your references are pointing to.
You may not have MDAC 2.1 installed on one of your machines,  this MDAC 
is available as a seperate
download from http://www.microsoft/data and is only installed with lower 
versions of Access.
Also some of these MDAC's like 2.5 have up to 3 SP's.
MDAC 2.7 and 2.8 don't run on Win95
I would pick one MDAC depending on your OSes and standardize on it. 
Remembering each OS version comes with a specific level of the MDAC.

Doug Murphy wrote:

>The ActiveX Data Objects 2.1 (ADO) is checked I just reversed the order
>of the words in my original message. My dyslexia is showing.  Tried 2.5
>and got the same message.
>
>This may be one of the AccessXP/2000 anomolies.  When I move the DB to
>my XP development machine it works fine.  It compiles on both machines.
>???
>
>Doug
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
>DWUTKA at marlow.com
>Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 11:33 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 2000 error
>
>
>That is DAO you have set.  You need ADO, which is Microsoft ActiveX Data
>Objects. (I personally set 2.5)
>
>Drew
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Doug Murphy
>Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 1:09 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: [AccessD] Access 2000 error
>
>
>Folks,
>
>I inherited an Access 2000 database to do some work on.  I have not done
>anything to the wizard built switchboard but it now breaks an the line
>"Set con = Application.CurrentProject.Connection".  Checked the
>references and MS data objects active-x library 2.1 is checked.  When I
>type in the same line auto completion fills in all the correct items so
>the terminology is correct for the given references.  Any idea why this
>thing is breaking?
>
>Doug
>
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
>Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 7:14 PM
>To: AccessD
>Subject: [AccessD] Framework Discussion page rebuild
>
>
>I have gone through all of the discussions and built a specific mdb and
>matching document zipped as a pair in a zip file.  The framework
>discussion page on my site now has 12 "chapters" built in this manner.
>This should make following the document easier.  Anyone going through
>the new document / database who finds any issues please email me offline
>to let me know and I will attempt to get such issues fixed and reposted.
>I did have to go carve out some of the chapters from the databases where
>I had just updated the db for several chapters so there may be a few
>issues.  Again, I will attempt to fix any issues brought to my attention
>and repost.
>
>In the future, all documents will be built with a matching database as
>the document is written and so should match "exactly".
>
>More are on the way.  I use a class for Openargs that parse the args and
>apply known framework args directly.  This lecture is almost finished.
>If anyone has any suggestions for future lectures please contact me
>offline or post them here if you want to stimulate discussion.
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>
>  
>

-- 
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Canada





From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Tue Apr 13 01:52:26 2004
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 07:52:26 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Remove non-alphanumeric characters
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C07C@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>

Thanks for comments Andy!

Looks a bit simpler than my solution - I'll give it a go.

Chris Foote (UK)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk]
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 5:55 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Remove non-alphanumeric characters
> 
> 
> Well personally I'd find it easier to read if you just 
> compared characters,
> so. Also, as long as your Option Compare doesn't cause case-sensitive
> comparisoins, you need only test for a-z once.
> 
> For intPos = 1 To Len(spAlphaNum)
> strChar = Mid(spAlphaNum, intPos, 1)
> Select Case strChar
> Case "0" To "9"   ' Numeric
> strClean = strClean + strChar
> Case "a" To "z"   ' Uppercase Alpha
> strClean = strClean + Ucase(strChar)
> Case Else
> End Select
> Next intPos
> 
> --
> Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> 
> 
> 
> --------- Original Message --------
> From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: [AccessD] Remove non-alphanumeric characters
> Date: 08/04/04 15:39
> 
> >
> > Good afternoon all!
> >
> > I have a requirement to strip a string of all 
> non-alphanumeric characters.
> > In addition I wanted to change all upper-case characters to 
> lower-case.


From jskolits at CorporateDataDesign.com  Tue Apr 13 02:59:52 2004
From: jskolits at CorporateDataDesign.com (John Skolits)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 03:59:52 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT -  Windows CE
In-Reply-To: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKKEJEIPAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <000001c4212d$4d34fe20$6701a8c0@OFFICEXP1>


Any advice on doing some basic forms with a backend DB on Windows CE?

I'm not a C programmer but certainly been doing Access/VBA since Access came
out. Are there any object oriented tools similar to Access that I can use to
build forms and do VBA type code.

Any good newsgroups for CE that would help me out?

John Skolits



From thevigil at kabelfoon.nl  Tue Apr 13 03:02:13 2004
From: thevigil at kabelfoon.nl (Bert-Jan Brinkhuis)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 10:02:13 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Get data from Word Doc - A2K
References: <FKEBJOENDDBJHLINGOBHOEICFFAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>
Message-ID: <002201c4212d$a309f440$3f412d3e@jester>

Reuben,

just a thought: isn't it possible to save the word document as a txt file
and open that in access an scan line by line? If the line's have specific
word's it must be possible to find them. Or maybe you know which linenumbers
you want to scan?

Bert-Jan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Reuben Cummings" <reuben at gfconsultants.com>
To: "AccessD" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 11:40 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Get data from Word Doc - A2K


> I have a 393 page Word document that has data about bridges.  Every 3
pages
> is one bridge meaning every third page is formatted exactly alike (Page 1
> and Page 4 are alike, Page 2 and Page 5, Page 3 and 6).   There are about
10
> pieces of data I would like to extract about every bridge, a little bit on
> each of the three pages.
>
> Is it possible to scan thru this document somehow and 'extract' these 10
> items from it to Access?
>
> I have tried to copy the document to Excel, but a lot of the text from
Word
> will end up in one cell rather than split into a cell of its own.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Reuben Cummings
> GFC, LLC
> phone: 812.523.1017
> email: reuben at gfconsultants.com
>
>
>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 13 04:23:44 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 19:23:44 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT -  Windows CE
In-Reply-To: <000001c4212d$4d34fe20$6701a8c0@OFFICEXP1>
References: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKKEJEIPAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <407C3E40.25250.273E516@localhost>

On 13 Apr 2004 at 3:59, John Skolits wrote:

> 
> Any advice on doing some basic forms with a backend DB on Windows CE?
> 
> I'm not a C programmer but certainly been doing Access/VBA since Access came
> out. Are there any object oriented tools similar to Access that I can use to
> build forms and do VBA type code.
> 

A couple of useful links:

http://www.syware.com/newsrev/pr/vcewm03.htm

and

http://www.wirelessdevnet.com/channels/pda/features/ado_ce.html

 
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Apr 12 09:04:45 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 16:04:45 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
In-Reply-To: <01c501c41aad$5502fca0$48619a89@DDICK>
References: <40706F3F.16231.9E7B12@localhost>
	<01c501c41aad$5502fca0$48619a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <11019402659.20040412160445@cactus.dk>

Hi Darren

> Hi Bryan
> I did that no joy eg.

That is because your expression will never be True as

  Me.cmbOffence = ""

will be Null if Me.cmbOffence is Null, and then

  IsNull(Me.cmbOffence) Or Null

will return Null as well.

The fastest method is:

  If Len(Me.cmbOffence & vbNullString) = 0

but mostly I prefer to use Nz():

  If Len(Nz(Me.cmbOffence, vbNullString)) = 0

As Stuart mentions, you may omit the last part, but you must be sure
that the value tested is either Null or a string (which is the case
here as I guess cmbOffence is a combobox):

  If Len(Nz(Me.cmbOffence.Value)) = 0

/gustav


> Private Sub Form_BeforeUpdate(Cancel As Integer)

> If IsNull(Me.cmbOffence) Or Me.cmbOffence = "" Then
>     MsgBox "Enter an offence"
>     Cancel = True
> End If

> End Sub

> What I need to do is somehow test if the user is on a new fresh record or has left th previous record with unfilled combos. Of
> course I can do it on the lost and got focus event.Thats fine whilst I am in the record
> EG record 5 has no offence recorded
> User goes to record 6 How do i alert the user that record 5 has a missing value then go back to that record?


> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at sympatico.ca>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problemsolving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 10:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record


>> On 5 Apr 2004 at 10:08, Darren DICK wrote:
>>
>> >  I have a simple subform with 4 fields on it
>> > ID (PK),  txtDateOfOccurence, cboClientName, cboOffence
>> >
>> > How can I tell if the user goes to a new record and they have not
>> > completed ALL fields in the previous record How do I alert them and
>> > then direct them back to the previous record?
>>
>> Use the before update event of the form. Check to make sure they
>> entered a vale and if not set Cancel = true in the event. That should
>> prevent the record from being saved and keep the sub form on the
>> "unfinished" record



From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Tue Apr 13 07:04:33 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 08:04:33 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Get data from Word Doc - A2K
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB5C@nnse14.nns.com>

I'd second that approach and take the time to mention Seth Galitzer's often
utilized File I/O code snippets. http://puma.agron.ksu.edu/~sgsax/ 



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Bert-Jan Brinkhuis [mailto:thevigil at kabelfoon.nl] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 4:02 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Get data from Word Doc - A2K


Reuben,

just a thought: isn't it possible to save the word document as a txt file
and open that in access an scan line by line? If the line's have specific
word's it must be possible to find them. Or maybe you know which linenumbers
you want to scan?

Bert-Jan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Reuben Cummings" <reuben at gfconsultants.com>
To: "AccessD" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 11:40 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Get data from Word Doc - A2K


> I have a 393 page Word document that has data about bridges.  Every 3
pages
> is one bridge meaning every third page is formatted exactly alike (Page 1
> and Page 4 are alike, Page 2 and Page 5, Page 3 and 6).   There are about
10
> pieces of data I would like to extract about every bridge, a little bit on
> each of the three pages.
>
> Is it possible to scan thru this document somehow and 'extract' these 10
> items from it to Access?
>
> I have tried to copy the document to Excel, but a lot of the text from
Word
> will end up in one cell rather than split into a cell of its own.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Reuben Cummings
> GFC, LLC
> phone: 812.523.1017
> email: reuben at gfconsultants.com
>
>
>
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From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca  Tue Apr 13 07:25:17 2004
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 08:25:17 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Get data from Word Doc - A2K
Message-ID: <s07ba3f7.024@cbc.ca>

If the info you need is in a consistant format, you can loop through the
paragraphs in the word doc and then parse it that way, something like:

Dim objWord As Word.Application
Dim doc As Document
Dim para As Paragraph
Dim strPara As String

Set objWord = CreateObject("Word.Application")

Set doc = objWord.Documents.Open("c:\full\path\to\Filename.doc")

For Each para In doc.Paragraphs
  'Get the text of the paragraph
  strPara = para.Range.Text
  'Parse strPara here looking for what you need
Next

Set para = Nothing
doc.Close
Set doc = Nothing
objWord.Quit
Set objWord = Nothing

Bryan Carbonnell
bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca

>>> reuben at gfconsultants.com 12-Apr-04 5:40:22 PM >>>
I have a 393 page Word document that has data about bridges.  Every 3
pages
is one bridge meaning every third page is formatted exactly alike (Page
1
and Page 4 are alike, Page 2 and Page 5, Page 3 and 6).   There are
about 10
pieces of data I would like to extract about every bridge, a little bit
on
each of the three pages.

Is it possible to scan thru this document somehow and 'extract' these
10
items from it to Access?

I have tried to copy the document to Excel, but a lot of the text from
Word
will end up in one cell rather than split into a cell of its own.

Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com 



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From mastercafe at ctv.es  Tue Apr 13 07:33:46 2004
From: mastercafe at ctv.es (MastercafeCTV)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 14:33:46 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] XML DATA ACCESS
In-Reply-To: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB5C@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <000701c42153$90e05680$0300a8c0@masterserver>

We are searching information about XML for use on Access and prepare data
for web. If anyone can help with url's or discussion sites about this we are
glad.

Thanks in advance


Juan Menendez


================================
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From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Tue Apr 13 07:59:43 2004
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 13:59:43 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Ownership
Message-ID: <F37DAC9A2964B144A2973EBCA8C54DBDABD3B9@BURY2K23.bury.gov.uk>

Hi

 

Appear to be getting requests for consultancy work - ie writing
small/medium Access/VB systems.   Does anyone know the ownership
situation for the UK. Can they (my clients) sell on any system I write?
Can they demand the source code from me? Or do I have exclusive rights
to the code and sell on?

 

Thanks in advance

 

Richard



From jskolits at CorporateDataDesign.com  Tue Apr 13 08:20:51 2004
From: jskolits at CorporateDataDesign.com (John Skolits)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 09:20:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT -  Windows CE
In-Reply-To: <407C3E40.25250.273E516@localhost>
Message-ID: <000001c4215a$24d8d5a0$6701a8c0@OFFICEXP1>

Great stuff! That'll get me started. I really appreciate it!

John

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 5:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT - Windows CE


On 13 Apr 2004 at 3:59, John Skolits wrote:

> 
> Any advice on doing some basic forms with a backend DB on Windows CE?
> 
> I'm not a C programmer but certainly been doing Access/VBA since 
> Access came out. Are there any object oriented tools similar to Access 
> that I can use to build forms and do VBA type code.
> 

A couple of useful links:

http://www.syware.com/newsrev/pr/vcewm03.htm

and

http://www.wirelessdevnet.com/channels/pda/features/ado_ce.html

 
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 13 05:33:47 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 12:33:47 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <015801c41f62$fedb2f90$6501a8c0@rock>
References: <015801c41f62$fedb2f90$6501a8c0@rock>
Message-ID: <17911601181.20040413123347@cactus.dk>

Hi Arthur

Did you check out BlackAdder and/or Rekall at

  http://www.thekompany.com

Not Access clones, and you'll have to like Python ...

/gustav


> IMO there would be a significant shift in the Linux world if somebody
> released something even close to Access. Yeah, there's Jbuilder and
> Kylix and such, and a few dbAdmin apps for MySQL, but there is no free
> or inexpensive RAD db dev app for Linux... And until there is, few if
> any of us will move our businesses there.



From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 13 06:28:24 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 13:28:24 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Wierd AccXP memo happenings.
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB3F3@ADGSERVER>
References: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB3F3@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <8614878414.20040413132824@cactus.dk>

Hi Bobby

1. What happens if you attach the memo content to another record?

2. Try to locate what part of the memo causes the blow. You do that by
cutting it in two, then try with the first and then with the second
part; continue along this road with the part that fails until you have
tracked the malfunctioning part. This may tell you something.

/gustav


> Hi all,

> I have a query that pulls data from several tables.  Been running well for
> years.  I get a call on Monday that it will not print all the way.  So after
> some researching, I found out that the report was blowing up when it got to
> a certain page.

> What was happening is that the data from this one table is all of type
> double.  BUT, for some reason, this one record is returning with the data
> from a memo field from the same record (not pulled in the query) and is
> blowing up where I am trying to keep up with some totals.

> I can delete the data out of the memo and the query runs correctly.  I past
> back the data and it blows up again.  So, I save the memo data in notepad,
> remove it from the record, compact the database, import it into a new
> database, then add the data back form notepad, and it blows again!

> Any ideas (short of moving the memo field to its own record) on how to fix
> this sort of problem?  It runs great on 100+ other database (all back-ends).

> Thanks,
> Bobby



From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 13 07:49:34 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 14:49:34 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Remove non-alphanumeric characters
In-Reply-To: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C07B@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>
References: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C07B@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>
Message-ID: <9819748166.20040413144934@cactus.dk>

Hi Chris

> I have a requirement to strip a string of all non-alphanumeric characters.
> In addition I wanted to change all upper-case characters to lower-case. I
> could not find any ready-rolled solution so I've come up with the code
> below.

> Can anyone think of a more simple way of doing this?

I don't think so. However, if you are about to handle large strings,
the appending method will prove very slow. If this is the case, you
could use Mid() as in the function below which trims a string for
anything else than numerals - you will be able to cut it down and
modify it for your purpose quite easily.

/gustav

<code>

Function TrimNumString( _
  ByVal strNumString As String, _
  Optional ByVal strDecimalChr As String, _
  Optional ByVal booAcceptMinus As Boolean) _
  As String

' Removes any non-numeric character from strNumString including hexadecimal characters.
' If strDecimalChr is specified, first occurrence of this is not removed.
' If booAcceptMinus is True, a leading or trailing minus sign is accepted.
'
' 1999-08-27. Cactus Data ApS, CPH.
' 2001-06-21. Speed optimized for large string (64 K).
' 2003-12-10. intOffset changed to lngOffset.
  
  Const cbytNeg   As Byte = 45  ' "-"
  
  Dim lngPos      As Long
  Dim lngLen      As Long
  Dim lngOffset   As Long
  Dim booDec      As Boolean
  Dim booNeg      As Boolean
  Dim bytChr      As Byte
  Dim bytDec      As Byte
  Dim strNum      As String
  
  strNumString = Trim(strNumString)
  lngLen = Len(strNumString)
  If lngLen > 0 Then
    If Len(strDecimalChr) > 0 Then
      bytDec = Asc(strDecimalChr)
    End If
    ' Create empty result string of maximum possible length.
    strNum = Space(lngLen)
    
    For lngPos = 1 To lngLen
      bytChr = Asc(Mid(strNumString, lngPos, 1))
      Select Case bytChr
        Case 48 To 57
          ' Digit.
        Case bytDec
          ' Decimal point.
          If booDec = False Then
            ' One decimal point only.
            booDec = True
          End If
        Case cbytNeg
          ' Minus sign.
          bytChr = 0
          If booAcceptMinus = True And booNeg = False Then
            If Len(Trim(strNum)) = 0 Or lngPos = lngLen Then
              bytChr = cbytNeg
              ' One minus sign only.
              booNeg = True
            End If
          End If
        Case Else
          ' Ignore any other character.
          bytChr = 0
      End Select
      If bytChr > 0 Then
        ' Append accepted character by inserting it in result string.
        lngOffset = lngOffset + 1
        Mid(strNum, lngOffset) = Chr(bytChr)
      End If
    Next
  End If
  
  ' Trim and return result string.
  TrimNumString = Left(strNum, lngOffset)

End Function

</code>



From actebs at actebs.com.au  Tue Apr 13 08:33:33 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 23:33:33 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Urgent: ADO Recordset from SQL to Access DB
Message-ID: <000201c4215b$ed9c23b0$0b08a8c0@carltonone.local>

Hi Everyone,
 
I am onsite doing some coding for a client and don't have access to a couple
of files/examples at my office. If anyone has some code to connect to an SQL
Server DB via ADO then open the recordset and then append the records to an
Access DB table I would be forever grateful. I have been working on this
project all day (interstate) and this is the last of it, but for the life of
me I can't work out how to set it up...I know I could setup and ODBC
connection, but that's not an elegant solution...
 
Any help will be much appreciated...
 
Regards
Vlad
 
 


From nsaqr at nicholaslane.com  Tue Apr 13 08:35:26 2004
From: nsaqr at nicholaslane.com (Nick Saqr - NLC)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 06:35:26 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT -  Windows CE
In-Reply-To: <000001c4215a$24d8d5a0$6701a8c0@OFFICEXP1>
Message-ID: <NDBBLJGHMLOEGLGFNDJNAECDGPAA.nsaqr@nicholaslane.com>


Check this out - SprintDB PRo. Probably the fastest DB out there, worked
well for me.

http://www.kaione.com/index.html

Nick

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John Skolits
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 6:21 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - Windows CE


Great stuff! That'll get me started. I really appreciate it!

John

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 5:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT - Windows CE


On 13 Apr 2004 at 3:59, John Skolits wrote:

>
> Any advice on doing some basic forms with a backend DB on Windows CE?
>
> I'm not a C programmer but certainly been doing Access/VBA since
> Access came out. Are there any object oriented tools similar to Access
> that I can use to build forms and do VBA type code.
>

A couple of useful links:

http://www.syware.com/newsrev/pr/vcewm03.htm

and

http://www.wirelessdevnet.com/channels/pda/features/ado_ce.html


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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Tue Apr 13 08:50:33 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 09:50:33 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Wierd AccXP memo happenings. SOLVED
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30820669@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB407@ADGSERVER>

Hi Gustav,

Thanks for reminding me of this issue.  I was off work Friday and Monday and
had forgotten to let everyone know that I solved the issue on Thursday,
right as I was leaving for the weekend.

<RedFace ON>

This particular report has six 'tiers' (0-5) on it. And after reviewing the
report, I found that it does not use the Notes (memo) field.  So I modified
the queries to remove the Notes field.  When I then went to run the report,
it gave me the missing field error (it was saying the Notes field was
missing).  I tracked the error to a field that should contain estimated
receipts.  I guess when I had been setting up that last tier, I had
accidentally clicked the Notes field as the data source instead of the
correct field.  DOH!  And since it is rare for the client to have a tier 5
record (and one with a note), no one had caught this error before.

So basically, I screwed up the report.  <Head hung low.>

</RedFace ON>

Thanks to those that looked at this issue with me.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 7:28 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Wierd AccXP memo happenings.


Hi Bobby

1. What happens if you attach the memo content to another record?

2. Try to locate what part of the memo causes the blow. You do that by
cutting it in two, then try with the first and then with the second part;
continue along this road with the part that fails until you have tracked the
malfunctioning part. This may tell you something.

/gustav


> Hi all,

> I have a query that pulls data from several tables.  Been running well 
> for years.  I get a call on Monday that it will not print all the way.  
> So after some researching, I found out that the report was blowing up 
> when it got to a certain page.

> What was happening is that the data from this one table is all of type 
> double.  BUT, for some reason, this one record is returning with the 
> data from a memo field from the same record (not pulled in the query) 
> and is blowing up where I am trying to keep up with some totals.

> I can delete the data out of the memo and the query runs correctly.  I 
> past back the data and it blows up again.  So, I save the memo data in 
> notepad, remove it from the record, compact the database, import it 
> into a new database, then add the data back form notepad, and it blows 
> again!

> Any ideas (short of moving the memo field to its own record) on how to 
> fix this sort of problem?  It runs great on 100+ other database (all 
> back-ends).

> Thanks,
> Bobby

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From jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com  Tue Apr 13 08:54:58 2004
From: jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com (jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 08:54:58 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Urgent: ADO Recordset from SQL to Access DB
Message-ID: <OF52E86547.E151D3FD-ON86256E75.004C36C6-86256E75.004C7154@us.bank-dns.com>


Here is some code.

I use a module that contains my connection information:

Function ODRConnection(myid As String, mypassword As String)
    ODRConnection = "Provider=SQLOLEDB.1;Password=" & mypassword &
";Persist Security Info=True;User ID=" & myid & ";Initial Catalog=" &
GetSEIDatabase & ";Data Source=" & GetSEIServerName
End Function

Now to open the recordset ad append the records:

Dim con As New ADODB.Connection
    Dim rs As New ADODB.Recordset
    Dim cmdtext As String

con = setconnection
    con.Open

    cmdtext = "INSERT INTO tblProviders ("
    cmdtext = cmdtext & " [ProviderName] )"
    cmdtext = cmdtext & " VALUES ("
    cmdtext = cmdtext & " '" & Me.txtCustomerName & "');"

    rs.Open cmdtext, con

    con.Close

set rs = nothing
set con = nothing


                                                                                                                                               
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Hi Everyone,

I am onsite doing some coding for a client and don't have access to a
couple
of files/examples at my office. If anyone has some code to connect to an
SQL
Server DB via ADO then open the recordset and then append the records to an
Access DB table I would be forever grateful. I have been working on this
project all day (interstate) and this is the last of it, but for the life
of
me I can't work out how to set it up...I know I could setup and ODBC
connection, but that's not an elegant solution...

Any help will be much appreciated...

Regards
Vlad


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From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Tue Apr 13 09:01:18 2004
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 15:01:18 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Remove non-alphanumeric characters
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C083@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>

Thanks for that Gustav!

An interesting different approach.

Luckily (for me) my strings are never longer than about 15 characters.

Thanks again!
Chris Foote - UK

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 1:50 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Remove non-alphanumeric characters
> 
> 
> Hi Chris
> 
> > I have a requirement to strip a string of all 
> non-alphanumeric characters.
> > In addition I wanted to change all upper-case characters to 
> lower-case. I
> > could not find any ready-rolled solution so I've come up 
> with the code
> > below.
> 
> > Can anyone think of a more simple way of doing this?
> 
> I don't think so. However, if you are about to handle large strings,
> the appending method will prove very slow. If this is the case, you
> could use Mid() as in the function below which trims a string for
> anything else than numerals - you will be able to cut it down and
> modify it for your purpose quite easily.
> 
> /gustav
> 
> <code>
> 
> Function TrimNumString( _
>   ByVal strNumString As String, _
>   Optional ByVal strDecimalChr As String, _
>   Optional ByVal booAcceptMinus As Boolean) _
>   As String
--------------(snip)-----------


From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Apr 13 09:13:40 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 09:13:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT -  Windows CE
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227AB8@main2.marlow.com>

I know microsoft has an Add-On component for VB, for Windows CE.

Drew

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Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 3:00 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Windows CE



Any advice on doing some basic forms with a backend DB on Windows CE?

I'm not a C programmer but certainly been doing Access/VBA since Access came
out. Are there any object oriented tools similar to Access that I can use to
build forms and do VBA type code.

Any good newsgroups for CE that would help me out?

John Skolits

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From mastercafe at ctv.es  Tue Apr 13 09:20:12 2004
From: mastercafe at ctv.es (MastercafeCTV)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 16:20:12 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Ownership
In-Reply-To: <F37DAC9A2964B144A2973EBCA8C54DBDABD3B9@BURY2K23.bury.gov.uk>
Message-ID: <000f01c42162$6f2eb4a0$0300a8c0@masterserver>

Hi Richard,

I don't know if ECC law are the same for this, but the intelectual property
in Spain said that you can develope any tool in any languaje for your client
and the main source code and final application rights are for they (client)
but you can use this code or application to sell to another client.

Inly when you make a contract in the beginning you can put your basis for
this. We make always a contract with our clients how take the main source
code, except an MDE module with all standar functions of us that they need
pay for this use. With this solution you always protect your work for
another developers in the future, and can put open source to your client.

Hope this notes can help you


Juan Menendez


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c/ Pi?eres 4, 1?D (33430 Candas - Asturias)
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Griffiths,
Richard
Sent: martes, 13 de abril de 2004 15:00
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Ownership


Hi

 

Appear to be getting requests for consultancy work - ie writing
small/medium Access/VB systems.   Does anyone know the ownership
situation for the UK. Can they (my clients) sell on any system I write? Can
they demand the source code from me? Or do I have exclusive rights to the
code and sell on?

 

Thanks in advance

 

Richard

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Apr 13 09:54:18 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 07:54:18 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Get data from Word Doc - A2K
In-Reply-To: <FKEBJOENDDBJHLINGOBHOEICFFAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIKEKGCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Reuben:

Could the document be saved as a text file and then processed through
Access?

HTH
Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Reuben
Cummings
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 2:40 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Get data from Word Doc - A2K


I have a 393 page Word document that has data about bridges.  Every 3 pages
is one bridge meaning every third page is formatted exactly alike (Page 1
and Page 4 are alike, Page 2 and Page 5, Page 3 and 6).   There are about 10
pieces of data I would like to extract about every bridge, a little bit on
each of the three pages.

Is it possible to scan thru this document somehow and 'extract' these 10
items from it to Access?

I have tried to copy the document to Excel, but a lot of the text from Word
will end up in one cell rather than split into a cell of its own.

Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com



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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 13 09:36:23 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 16:36:23 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Remove non-alphanumeric characters
In-Reply-To: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C083@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>
References: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C083@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>
Message-ID: <7926157472.20040413163623@cactus.dk>

Hi Chris

> Luckily (for me) my strings are never longer than about 15 characters.

OK. Then I would go ahead with your original suggestion.

/gustav



From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 13 10:21:00 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 17:21:00 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions
In-Reply-To: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE4F2@TAPPEEXCH01>
References: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE4F2@TAPPEEXCH01>
Message-ID: <10628834041.20040413172100@cactus.dk>

Hi Brett

Don't know what you are about to do, but have you had a look at the
empower program for ISVs:

  http://members.microsoft.com/partner/isv/empower/default.aspx

/gustav


> I recall a discussion a while back about discount sources for MSDN
> subscriptions.  We are looking to purchase 5 subscriptions, either
> Enterprise or possibly Universal depending on the pricing.  
 
> I found the Universal box here for $1135 (with an additional $300 DVD media
> discount!):
> http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696
> <http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696> 
 
> Can anyone top this?

> Brett Barabash, MCP 
> Tappe Construction, Co. 
> Eagan, MN 
> bbarabash at tappeconstruction.com 
> (651) 256-6831 



From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Tue Apr 13 10:39:17 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 10:39:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions
Message-ID: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE4FB@TAPPEEXCH01>

I have heard of this before (Joel Spolsky discussed it on his website)
Great program, except we are not an independent software vendor (ISV).  To
be eligible for this program, we need to do the following:

- Within 18 months of initial membership activation (within 6 months from
renewal), members must publicly announce the new packaged software
application on their own official website. 

- Within 24 months of initial membership activation (within 12 months from
renewal), members must release the new packaged software application to the
targeted marketplace. 

Now, if I could convince management to allow me to sell my creations...

Brett Barabash, MCP 
Tappe Construction, Co. 
Eagan, MN 
bbarabash at tappeconstruction.com 
(651) 256-6831 

"One thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a
cardboard box and sit in a warehouse."  -Jack Handey


-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 10:21 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions

Hi Brett

Don't know what you are about to do, but have you had a look at the
empower program for ISVs:

  http://members.microsoft.com/partner/isv/empower/default.aspx

/gustav


> I recall a discussion a while back about discount sources for MSDN
> subscriptions.  We are looking to purchase 5 subscriptions, either
> Enterprise or possibly Universal depending on the pricing.  
 
> I found the Universal box here for $1135 (with an additional $300 DVD
media
> discount!):
> http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696
> <http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696> 
 
> Can anyone top this?

> Brett Barabash, MCP 
> Tappe Construction, Co. 
> Eagan, MN 
> bbarabash at tappeconstruction.com 
> (651) 256-6831 


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From actebs at actebs.com.au  Tue Apr 13 11:56:48 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 02:56:48 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Urgent: ADO Recordset from SQL to Access DB - Solved
In-Reply-To: <OF52E86547.E151D3FD-ON86256E75.004C36C6-86256E75.004C7154@us.bank-dns.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c42178$529a90f0$0b08a8c0@carltonone.local>

Jeff,

Thanks you're a lifesaver...

Vlad

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jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com
Sent: Tuesday, 13 April 2004 11:55 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Urgent: ADO Recordset from SQL to Access DB



Here is some code.

I use a module that contains my connection information:

Function ODRConnection(myid As String, mypassword As String)
    ODRConnection = "Provider=SQLOLEDB.1;Password=" & mypassword & ";Persist
Security Info=True;User ID=" & myid & ";Initial Catalog=" & GetSEIDatabase &
";Data Source=" & GetSEIServerName End Function

Now to open the recordset ad append the records:

Dim con As New ADODB.Connection
    Dim rs As New ADODB.Recordset
    Dim cmdtext As String

con = setconnection
    con.Open

    cmdtext = "INSERT INTO tblProviders ("
    cmdtext = cmdtext & " [ProviderName] )"
    cmdtext = cmdtext & " VALUES ("
    cmdtext = cmdtext & " '" & Me.txtCustomerName & "');"

    rs.Open cmdtext, con

    con.Close

set rs = nothing
set con = nothing


 

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                      04/13/2004 08:33 AM

                      Please respond to "Access

                      Developers discussion and

                      problem solving"

 

 





Hi Everyone,

I am onsite doing some coding for a client and don't have access to a couple
of files/examples at my office. If anyone has some code to connect to an SQL
Server DB via ADO then open the recordset and then append the records to an
Access DB table I would be forever grateful. I have been working on this
project all day (interstate) and this is the last of it, but for the life of
me I can't work out how to set it up...I know I could setup and ODBC
connection, but that's not an elegant solution...

Any help will be much appreciated...

Regards
Vlad


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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Tue Apr 13 13:17:16 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 13:17:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Ownership
In-Reply-To: <200404131700.i3DH0LB16022@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040413131409.02a0b8e0@pop3.highstream.net>

Richard,

It depends on the contract.  If you are contracting to produce a specific 
program with source, the you can word the contract so that you retain the 
copyright, but they have rights to modify the source and cannot sell it 
outside of their company.  Or, that they own the copyright at the end of 
teh contract and can do whatever they want with it.  Generally, if you are 
working by the hour, they own it.  But, again, you can word the contract 
however you want to between you and the customer.

Robert

At 12:00 PM 4/13/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 13:59:43 +0100
>From: "Griffiths, Richard" <R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk>
>Subject: [AccessD] Ownership
>To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID:
>         <F37DAC9A2964B144A2973EBCA8C54DBDABD3B9 at BURY2K23.bury.gov.uk>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>Hi
>
>
>
>Appear to be getting requests for consultancy work - ie writing
>small/medium Access/VB systems.   Does anyone know the ownership
>situation for the UK. Can they (my clients) sell on any system I write?
>Can they demand the source code from me? Or do I have exclusive rights
>to the code and sell on?
>
>
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>
>
>Richard




From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 13 13:24:35 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 20:24:35 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions
In-Reply-To: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE4FB@TAPPEEXCH01>
References: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE4FB@TAPPEEXCH01>
Message-ID: <1139849210.20040413202435@cactus.dk>

Hi Brett

But what happens if you "fail" other than you may have postponed your
purchase 24 months?

/gustav


> I have heard of this before (Joel Spolsky discussed it on his website)
> Great program, except we are not an independent software vendor (ISV).  To
> be eligible for this program, we need to do the following:

> - Within 18 months of initial membership activation (within 6 months from
> renewal), members must publicly announce the new packaged software
> application on their own official website. 

> - Within 24 months of initial membership activation (within 12 months from
> renewal), members must release the new packaged software application to the
> targeted marketplace. 

> Now, if I could convince management to allow me to sell my creations...

> Brett Barabash, MCP 
> Tappe Construction, Co. 
> Eagan, MN 
> bbarabash at tappeconstruction.com 
> (651) 256-6831 

> "One thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a
> cardboard box and sit in a warehouse."  -Jack Handey


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 10:21 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions

> Hi Brett

> Don't know what you are about to do, but have you had a look at the
> empower program for ISVs:

>   http://members.microsoft.com/partner/isv/empower/default.aspx

> /gustav


>> I recall a discussion a while back about discount sources for MSDN
>> subscriptions.  We are looking to purchase 5 subscriptions, either
>> Enterprise or possibly Universal depending on the pricing.  
 
>> I found the Universal box here for $1135 (with an additional $300 DVD media
>> discount!):
>> http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696
>> <http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696> 



From jskolits at CorporateDataDesign.com  Tue Apr 13 14:05:48 2004
From: jskolits at CorporateDataDesign.com (John Skolits)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 15:05:48 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT -  Windows CE (Demise of PDAs)
In-Reply-To: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227AB8@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <000b01c4218a$552c8140$6701a8c0@OFFICEXP1>

Thanks all for the links.

While researching, came across an article about the decline of PDA's. Makes
me think a bit before delving into a new technology/programming language.

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~33~2077837,00.html

John


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Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 10:14 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - Windows CE


I know microsoft has an Add-On component for VB, for Windows CE.

Drew

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John Skolits
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 3:00 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Windows CE



Any advice on doing some basic forms with a backend DB on Windows CE?

I'm not a C programmer but certainly been doing Access/VBA since Access came
out. Are there any object oriented tools similar to Access that I can use to
build forms and do VBA type code.

Any good newsgroups for CE that would help me out?

John Skolits

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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Apr 13 14:11:10 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 20:11:10 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Ownership
In-Reply-To: <F37DAC9A2964B144A2973EBCA8C54DBDABD3B9@BURY2K23.bury.gov.uk>
Message-ID: <000001c4218b$1524a3b0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Hi Richard
It has always been my understanding that, unless a contract states
otherwise, the source code belongs to the developer. Having said that,
however, it has equally always been my stance that if I'm being paid to
develop something then ethically what I develop specifically for the client
is 100% theirs. But the key word is 'specifically'. Most of us have an awful
lot of code in our lockers that we'll bring out in any development. The
client needs to understand this and needs to see that he gets the benefit
because he doesn't pay for that stuff. It may be this that gives us our
marketing edge when we go into bat for the work.

The question really comes down to 'why do you ask?'. Do I sense that you
smell some sell-on potential? Be careful, it rarely happens. And certainly
NEVER discount what you do based on the promise of future sales. But I
digress. The important thing is that you want a happy customer and they
probably want a happy supplier - or at least a productive one. So if you
feel you should, or the customer forces the issue, then discuss it, but
amicably. Explain that what they'll get is part theirs and part yours (if it
is, and if you agree with me) and that they'll therefore own part of it. But
in practise if they want to sell it on they'll need you along anyway for
support etc, and if you want to sell it on you'll need them along as a
(probably the only) reference site. So, like most things, it comes down to
discussion, agreement, compromise and that sort of thing. Just reach an
arrangement that suits both of you.

IME most customers don't think to ask, and I don't raise it. It's not that I
intend to do them down - if they raise it months or years down the line I'll
still give the same response - it's just that getting contracts off the
ground is tricky enough without introducing complications the customer
hasn't even thought about. Just get the work, do a great job, make the
customer happy, and the chances are it'll never be an issue.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Griffiths, Richard
> Sent: 13 April 2004 14:00
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Ownership
> 
> 
> Hi
> 
>  
> 
> Appear to be getting requests for consultancy work - ie writing
> small/medium Access/VB systems.   Does anyone know the ownership
> situation for the UK. Can they (my clients) sell on any 
> system I write? Can they demand the source code from me? Or 
> do I have exclusive rights to the code and sell on?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
>  
> 
> Richard
> 



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 13 14:33:55 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 15:33:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Ownership
In-Reply-To: <000001c4218b$1524a3b0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>
Message-ID: <20040413193353.GYEC23778.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

There's nothing wrong with stipulating in the contract that the product is
for the purchaser's use and not for resell by the purchaser -- I always had
that. They don't ask -- they're not interested in reselling, but just in
case... 

Susan H. 

The question really comes down to 'why do you ask?'. Do I sense that you
smell some sell-on potential? Be careful, it rarely happens. And certainly
NEVER discount what you do based on the promise of future sales. But I
digress. The important thing is that you want a happy 



From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Apr 13 15:29:40 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 15:29:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT -  Windows CE (Demise of PDAs)
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227ABB@main2.marlow.com>

Interesting article.  However, there are mobile phones which are coming with
Windows CE, so it's a skill that will still be handy even with the new
trend.

Drew

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John Skolits
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 2:06 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - Windows CE (Demise of PDAs)


Thanks all for the links.

While researching, came across an article about the decline of PDA's. Makes
me think a bit before delving into a new technology/programming language.

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~33~2077837,00.html

John


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 10:14 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - Windows CE


I know microsoft has an Add-On component for VB, for Windows CE.

Drew

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Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 3:00 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Windows CE



Any advice on doing some basic forms with a backend DB on Windows CE?

I'm not a C programmer but certainly been doing Access/VBA since Access came
out. Are there any object oriented tools similar to Access that I can use to
build forms and do VBA type code.

Any good newsgroups for CE that would help me out?

John Skolits

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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Tue Apr 13 17:42:54 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 08:42:54 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
References: <40706F3F.16231.9E7B12@localhost><01c501c41aad$5502fca0$48619a89@DDICK>
	<11019402659.20040412160445@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <003701c421a8$a979a340$48619a89@DDICK>

Thanks Gustav et al
I will use this method in the future
many thanks
Darren
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From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 12:04 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record


> Hi Darren
> 
> > Hi Bryan
> > I did that no joy eg.
> 
> That is because your expression will never be True as
> 
>   Me.cmbOffence = ""
> 
> will be Null if Me.cmbOffence is Null, and then
> 
>   IsNull(Me.cmbOffence) Or Null
> 
> will return Null as well.
> 
> The fastest method is:
> 
>   If Len(Me.cmbOffence & vbNullString) = 0
> 
> but mostly I prefer to use Nz():
> 
>   If Len(Nz(Me.cmbOffence, vbNullString)) = 0
> 
> As Stuart mentions, you may omit the last part, but you must be sure
> that the value tested is either Null or a string (which is the case
> here as I guess cmbOffence is a combobox):
> 
>   If Len(Nz(Me.cmbOffence.Value)) = 0
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 
> > Private Sub Form_BeforeUpdate(Cancel As Integer)
> 
> > If IsNull(Me.cmbOffence) Or Me.cmbOffence = "" Then
> >     MsgBox "Enter an offence"
> >     Cancel = True
> > End If
> 
> > End Sub
> 
> > What I need to do is somehow test if the user is on a new fresh record or has left th previous record with unfilled combos. Of
> > course I can do it on the lost and got focus event.Thats fine whilst I am in the record
> > EG record 5 has no offence recorded
> > User goes to record 6 How do i alert the user that record 5 has a missing value then go back to that record?
> 
> 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at sympatico.ca>
> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problemsolving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 10:25 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
> 
> 
> >> On 5 Apr 2004 at 10:08, Darren DICK wrote:
> >>
> >> >  I have a simple subform with 4 fields on it
> >> > ID (PK),  txtDateOfOccurence, cboClientName, cboOffence
> >> >
> >> > How can I tell if the user goes to a new record and they have not
> >> > completed ALL fields in the previous record How do I alert them and
> >> > then direct them back to the previous record?
> >>
> >> Use the before update event of the form. Check to make sure they
> >> entered a vale and if not set Cancel = true in the event. That should
> >> prevent the record from being saved and keep the sub form on the
> >> "unfinished" record
> 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 13 18:20:54 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 09:20:54 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Ownership
In-Reply-To: <000001c4218b$1524a3b0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>
References: <F37DAC9A2964B144A2973EBCA8C54DBDABD3B9@BURY2K23.bury.gov.uk>
Message-ID: <407D0276.1957.32EE83@localhost>

On 13 Apr 2004 at 20:11, Andy Lacey wrote:

> Hi Richard
> It has always been my understanding that, unless a contract states
> otherwise, the source code belongs to the developer. 

I don't know about the UK, but in many situations, it is much more 
complicated than that.

>Having said that,
> however, it has equally always been my stance that if I'm being paid to
> develop something then ethically what I develop specifically for the client
> is 100% theirs. But the key word is 'specifically'. Most of us have an awful
> lot of code in our lockers that we'll bring out in any development. 

In reality, *everyone* capable of developing a marketable solution does this.

>The
> client needs to understand this and needs to see that he gets the benefit
> because he doesn't pay for that stuff. It may be this that gives us our
> marketing edge when we go into bat for the work.
> 

My standard "proposal" template says:

"The application will have been developed by Lexacorp for your use, 
but the developed application will incorporate code fragments and 
ideas that have previously been developed by Lexacorp and all 
intellectual property rights to the application remains the property 
of Lexacorp.  

You will receive a copy of the source code for the application and 
will be granted a non-exclusive licence to use such source code for 
maintenance and future development of the said application for your 
own use in such manner as you see fit. 
....
You may not sell or otherwise dispose of the said source code, or any 
application developed utilising all or part of it to any third party 
without the express agreement of  Lexacorp. "  



 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 13 18:44:02 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 09:44:02 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT -  Windows CE (Demise of PDAs)
In-Reply-To: <000b01c4218a$552c8140$6701a8c0@OFFICEXP1>
References: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227AB8@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <407D07E2.32006.4819F2@localhost>

On 13 Apr 2004 at 15:05, John Skolits wrote:

> Thanks all for the links.
> 
> While researching, came across an article about the decline of PDA's. Makes
> me think a bit before delving into a new technology/programming language.
> 
> http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~33~2077837,00.html
> 
The  "mobile devices" mentioned in the article  as *replacements* for 
the PDA are really just PDAs with more features. They all use the 
same "new technology/programming language".   

(Is a Treo a phone with PDA functions or a PDA with phone functions?)

Then there is the continuing growth in smart data capture equipment, 
GPS integrated devices etc 

Take a look at the number of different such devices now using Palm OS 
or Windows CE.







 
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Support.





From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Tue Apr 13 22:01:32 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 13:01:32 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Adding the word ALL to a combo
Message-ID: <01c101c421cc$cadf66e0$48619a89@DDICK>

Hello all
I need to add the word <ALL> to a combo
SO pseudo  = select * from MyTable and Then add "<ALL>"

I have done this before through assistance from this list but I can't find the Gem
or remember the dB I did it on :-(( 

Any suggestions?

Many thanks

Darren



From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Apr 13 22:10:22 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 22:10:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Adding the word ALL to a combo
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227ABF@main2.marlow.com>

SELECT "ALL" As AField
FROM MyTable

UNION SELECT MyField
FROM MyTable

Drew

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Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 10:02 PM
To: AccessD List
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Adding the word ALL to a combo


Hello all
I need to add the word <ALL> to a combo
SO pseudo  = select * from MyTable and Then add "<ALL>"

I have done this before through assistance from this list but I can't find
the Gem
or remember the dB I did it on :-(( 

Any suggestions?

Many thanks

Darren

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Apr 13 22:35:44 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 20:35:44 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Adding the word ALL to a combo
In-Reply-To: <01c101c421cc$cadf66e0$48619a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIEEKKCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Darren:

The only way I know to add 'all' to a combo/list box is through a recorsdset
that I supply myself. The gem piece came from an example code segment
supplied in Access97 help files. I can not remember what the request was
that found it but I have used a variation on that theme for years. Below is
the base piece; I just cut and pasted it from one application I have just
finished.

The call to this function is made from the list/combo boxes by placing the
functions name in the 'Row Source Type' property i.e. : FillFunctionCode

And a sample of the function:

Public Function FillFunctionCode(ctlBox As Control, ID As Variant, row As
Variant, col As Variant, Code As Variant) As Variant
    Dim bolDBStatus As Boolean
    Dim mvReturnVal As Variant

    On Error GoTo Err_FillFunctionCode

    bolDBStatus = True
    If rsFunctionCode Is Nothing Then bolDBStatus =
FillRecordsetFunctionCode()

    mvReturnVal = Null

    If bolDBStatus = True Then
        With rsFunctionCode
            Select Case Code
                Case acLBInitialize                 ' Initialize.
                    bolStatus = True

                    If .BOF = False Or .EOF = False Then
                        .MoveFirst
                        mvReturnVal = .RecordCount
                    Else
                        mvReturnVal = 0
                    End If
                Case acLBOpen                       ' Open.
                    mvReturnVal = Timer             ' Generate unique ID for
control.
                Case acLBGetRowCount                ' Get number of rows.
                    mvReturnVal = .RecordCount
                Case acLBGetColumnCount             ' Get number of columns.
                    mvReturnVal = ctlBox.ColumnCount
                Case acLBGetColumnWidth             ' Column width.
                    mvReturnVal = -1                ' -1 forces use of
default width.
                Case acLBGetFormat                  ' Get format
                    mvReturnVal = -1
                Case acLBGetValue                   ' Get data.
                    .MoveFirst
                    .Move (row)
                    mvReturnVal = .Fields(col)
            End Select
        End With
    End If

    FillFunctionCode = mvReturnVal

Exit_FillFunctionCode:
    Exit Function

Err_FillFunctionCode:
    'Handles error situation caused an apparent unrelated error(s)
    'generated in other modules. (It loses its brains...)
    If Err.Number = 3167 Then
        rsFunctionCode.Requery
    ElseIf Err.Number = 3704 Or Err.Number = -2147467259 Then
        Resume Exit_FillFunctionCode
    ElseIf Err.Number <> 91 Then
        ShowErrMsg "FillFunctionCode"
    End If
    Resume Exit_FillFunctionCode

End Function

There still needs to be a piece of code that fills the recordset, in this
case a recordset named 'rsFunctionCode'. In the recordset creating routine
is where 'All' would be added. If you need I can send the code that
populates the recordset but there are so many ways to do that.

HTH
Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren DICK
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 8:02 PM
To: AccessD List
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Adding the word ALL to a combo


Hello all
I need to add the word <ALL> to a combo
SO pseudo  = select * from MyTable and Then add "<ALL>"

I have done this before through assistance from this list but I can't find
the Gem
or remember the dB I did it on :-((

Any suggestions?

Many thanks

Darren

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From rbgajewski at adelphia.net  Tue Apr 13 22:33:35 2004
From: rbgajewski at adelphia.net (Bob Gajewski)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 23:33:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Adding the word ALL to a combo
In-Reply-To: <01c101c421cc$cadf66e0$48619a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <LHEEKEKNLFONONKPIOCJEEKLGDAA.rbgajewski@adelphia.net>

Darren:

Here's one example:

SELECT [tblStates].[txtStateCode], [tblStates].[txtStateName] FROM tblStates
UNION Select "<ALL>" As AllChoice FROM tblStates
ORDER BY [tblStates].[txtStateName];

Regards,
Bob Gajewski


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren DICK
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 23:02
To: AccessD List
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Adding the word ALL to a combo


Hello all
I need to add the word <ALL> to a combo
SO pseudo  = select * from MyTable and Then add "<ALL>"

I have done this before through assistance from this list but I can't find
the Gem
or remember the dB I did it on :-((

Any suggestions?

Many thanks

Darren

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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Tue Apr 13 22:57:39 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 13:57:39 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Adding the word ALL to a combo
References: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227ABF@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <01fc01c421d4$a17fd7f0$48619a89@DDICK>

Howdy
Thanks for the reply
Excellent
DD
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Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 1:10 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K:Adding the word ALL to a combo


> SELECT "ALL" As AField
> FROM MyTable
> 
> UNION SELECT MyField
> FROM MyTable
> 
> Drew
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren DICK
> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 10:02 PM
> To: AccessD List
> Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Adding the word ALL to a combo
> 
> 
> Hello all
> I need to add the word <ALL> to a combo
> SO pseudo  = select * from MyTable and Then add "<ALL>"
> 
> I have done this before through assistance from this list but I can't find
> the Gem
> or remember the dB I did it on :-(( 
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Darren
> 
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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Tue Apr 13 23:08:00 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 14:08:00 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Adding the word ALL to a combo - SOLVED
References: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIEEKKCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <022d01c421d6$13918b80$48619a89@DDICK>

Thanks to all who responded
I went with Drew's suggestion
'Cause he was first :-))
Many thanks

Darren

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Lawrence (AccessD)" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 1:35 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K:Adding the word ALL to a combo


> Hi Darren:
> 
> The only way I know to add 'all' to a combo/list box is through a recorsdset
> that I supply myself. The gem piece came from an example code segment
> supplied in Access97 help files. I can not remember what the request was
> that found it but I have used a variation on that theme for years. Below is
> the base piece; I just cut and pasted it from one application I have just
> finished.
> 
> The call to this function is made from the list/combo boxes by placing the
> functions name in the 'Row Source Type' property i.e. : FillFunctionCode
> 
> And a sample of the function:
> 
> Public Function FillFunctionCode(ctlBox As Control, ID As Variant, row As
> Variant, col As Variant, Code As Variant) As Variant
>     Dim bolDBStatus As Boolean
>     Dim mvReturnVal As Variant
> 
>     On Error GoTo Err_FillFunctionCode
> 
>     bolDBStatus = True
>     If rsFunctionCode Is Nothing Then bolDBStatus =
> FillRecordsetFunctionCode()
> 
>     mvReturnVal = Null
> 
>     If bolDBStatus = True Then
>         With rsFunctionCode
>             Select Case Code
>                 Case acLBInitialize                 ' Initialize.
>                     bolStatus = True
> 
>                     If .BOF = False Or .EOF = False Then
>                         .MoveFirst
>                         mvReturnVal = .RecordCount
>                     Else
>                         mvReturnVal = 0
>                     End If
>                 Case acLBOpen                       ' Open.
>                     mvReturnVal = Timer             ' Generate unique ID for
> control.
>                 Case acLBGetRowCount                ' Get number of rows.
>                     mvReturnVal = .RecordCount
>                 Case acLBGetColumnCount             ' Get number of columns.
>                     mvReturnVal = ctlBox.ColumnCount
>                 Case acLBGetColumnWidth             ' Column width.
>                     mvReturnVal = -1                ' -1 forces use of
> default width.
>                 Case acLBGetFormat                  ' Get format
>                     mvReturnVal = -1
>                 Case acLBGetValue                   ' Get data.
>                     .MoveFirst
>                     .Move (row)
>                     mvReturnVal = .Fields(col)
>             End Select
>         End With
>     End If
> 
>     FillFunctionCode = mvReturnVal
> 
> Exit_FillFunctionCode:
>     Exit Function
> 
> Err_FillFunctionCode:
>     'Handles error situation caused an apparent unrelated error(s)
>     'generated in other modules. (It loses its brains...)
>     If Err.Number = 3167 Then
>         rsFunctionCode.Requery
>     ElseIf Err.Number = 3704 Or Err.Number = -2147467259 Then
>         Resume Exit_FillFunctionCode
>     ElseIf Err.Number <> 91 Then
>         ShowErrMsg "FillFunctionCode"
>     End If
>     Resume Exit_FillFunctionCode
> 
> End Function
> 
> There still needs to be a piece of code that fills the recordset, in this
> case a recordset named 'rsFunctionCode'. In the recordset creating routine
> is where 'All' would be added. If you need I can send the code that
> populates the recordset but there are so many ways to do that.
> 
> HTH
> Jim
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren DICK
> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 8:02 PM
> To: AccessD List
> Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Adding the word ALL to a combo
> 
> 
> Hello all
> I need to add the word <ALL> to a combo
> SO pseudo  = select * from MyTable and Then add "<ALL>"
> 
> I have done this before through assistance from this list but I can't find
> the Gem
> or remember the dB I did it on :-((
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Darren
> 
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 14 03:50:51 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 10:50:51 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Adding the word ALL to a combo - SOLVED
In-Reply-To: <022d01c421d6$13918b80$48619a89@DDICK>
References: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIEEKKCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>
	<022d01c421d6$13918b80$48619a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <1336886412.20040414105051@cactus.dk>

Hi Darren

> Thanks to all who responded
> I went with Drew's suggestion
> 'Cause he was first :-))

Yeah, but I guess you did adjust it to use "<ALL>", because "ALL"
could be sorted within your recordset. Thus, if you have Alice and
Susan, your combo would list:

     Alice
     ALL
     Susan

/gustav

> SELECT "ALL" As AField
> FROM MyTable
>
> UNION SELECT MyField
> FROM MyTable



From Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com  Wed Apr 14 10:39:36 2004
From: Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com (Jeff Barrows)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 10:39:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Convert Case to Upper Case
Message-ID: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE6305003266E@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com>

Hello Group,
 
Does anyone have a technique for updating data in tables to ALL be upper case?
 
Jeff Barrows


From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 14 10:58:02 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 17:58:02 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Convert Case to Upper Case
In-Reply-To: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE6305003266E@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com>
References: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE6305003266E@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com>
Message-ID: <9332517157.20040414175802@cactus.dk>

Hi Jeff

An update query ... or do you have special needs?

/gustav

> Does anyone have a technique for updating data in tables to ALL be upper case?



From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Apr 14 11:02:20 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 12:02:20 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Convert Case to Upper Case
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA308209CE@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB414@ADGSERVER>

You can use the format function in a query with a format string of ">".

Bobby

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Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 11:40 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Convert Case to Upper Case


Hello Group,
 
Does anyone have a technique for updating data in tables to ALL be upper
case?
 
Jeff Barrows
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 14 11:27:04 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 18:27:04 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] A97 - 2003 conversion
In-Reply-To: <15440940699.20040225202312@cactus.dk>
References: <BAY2-F33PpBpcXCXWtj00006f2e@hotmail.com>
	<15440940699.20040225202312@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <5634259482.20040414182704@cactus.dk>

Hi all

Helen has added part two - this time on Personal Digital Certificates
- but now a part three is announced.

The filename has not changed.

/gustav


> You should look up Helen's article (part one only, part two to
> follow!) 

>   http://www.helenfeddema.com/access.htm

> on this topic: accarch119.zip



From Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us  Wed Apr 14 11:27:14 2004
From: Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us (O'Connor, Patricia  )
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 12:27:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Convert Case to Upper Case
Message-ID: <B94C79B465542042AB0748EAF37F9AC006D512@EXCNYSM0A1AB.nysemail.nyenet>

Update query using UPPER([fieldname])
HTH
 
Patti
*************************************************************
* Patricia E. O'Connor
* Associate Computer Programmer/Analyst
* OTDA - BDMA
* (W) mailto:Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us
* (W) mailto:aa1160 at dfa.state.ny.us
***********************************************************
 

From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 14 11:46:55 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 18:46:55 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 Digital Certificate
In-Reply-To: <5634259482.20040414182704@cactus.dk>
References: <BAY2-F33PpBpcXCXWtj00006f2e@hotmail.com>
	<15440940699.20040225202312@cactus.dk>
	<5634259482.20040414182704@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <1335450164.20040414184655@cactus.dk>

Hi all

And from Gary Robinson I just received a link for this month's open
article "Signing Access 2003 Projects":

  http://www.pinpub.com/html/main.isx?sub=62&story=2693

Basically, applying a digital certificate to your code encrypts it for
editing but not for execution.

/gustav

> Helen has added part two - this time on Personal Digital Certificates
> - but now a part three is announced.

> The filename has not changed.

> /gustav


>> You should look up Helen's article (part one only, part two to
>> follow!) 

>>   http://www.helenfeddema.com/access.htm

>> on this topic: accarch119.zip



From Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com  Wed Apr 14 12:00:54 2004
From: Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com (Jeff Barrows)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 12:00:54 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Convert Case to Upper Case
Message-ID: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE6305003266F@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com>

Thanks for the help!  This Should work just fine!!

	-----Original Message----- 
	From: O'Connor, Patricia [mailto:Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us] 
	Sent: Wed 4/14/2004 11:27 AM 
	To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
	Cc: 
	Subject: RE: [AccessD] Convert Case to Upper Case
	
	

	Update query using UPPER([fieldname])
	HTH
	
	Patti
	*************************************************************
	* Patricia E. O'Connor
	* Associate Computer Programmer/Analyst
	* OTDA - BDMA
	* (W) mailto:Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us
	* (W) mailto:aa1160 at dfa.state.ny.us
	***********************************************************
	
	


From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 14 12:16:52 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 19:16:52 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Convert Case to Upper Case
In-Reply-To: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE6305003266F@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com>
References: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE6305003266F@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com>
Message-ID: <13037247018.20040414191652@cactus.dk>

Hi Jeff

> Thanks for the help!  This Should work just fine!!

Not in Jet SQL. That would be UCase().

/gustav


>         Update query using UPPER([fieldname])



From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 14 12:45:51 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 19:45:51 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
In-Reply-To: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB4C@nnse14.nns.com>
References: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB4C@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <1338986209.20040414194551@cactus.dk>

Hi Mark

> I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder permissions) to
> only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
> database for general use that needs to link to a table in that restricted
> database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the minimum necessary
> to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any modifications
> to the data?

I don't think you can do this as you for the new user group would need
to have two levels of permissions: read-only for the data file, and -
as for the first group - create-read-write (or better:
create-read-write-erase) for the the locking file (.ldb).

This article covers your initial scenario but not your requested
scenario, "Restrict The People Who Can Use Your Database Folder":

  http://www.vb123.com/toolshed/04_docs/accessdb_op_security.htm

However - as William will know - if you really need this setup, go and
get a Novell NetWare server. Here you can control user permissions
down to the single file; this scenario could be created in two
minutes. 

/gustav



From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 14 14:14:15 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 21:14:15 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: US/UK public holidays
Message-ID: <591136444.20040414211415@cactus.dk>

Hi all

What is the meaning of the column "Day Observed" here:

  http://www.usembassy.org.uk/ukpubhol.html

Look for example at the second and third last entry.

/gustav



From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Wed Apr 14 14:18:13 2004
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 20:18:13 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: US/UK public holidays
References: <591136444.20040414211415@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <001e01c42255$3e5ec7e0$1b02a8c0@MARTINREID>

Dont know but maybe its the day they take instead of the official holiday
for example if it falls on a weekend.

Martin



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 8:14 PM
Subject: [AccessD] OT: US/UK public holidays


> Hi all
>
> What is the meaning of the column "Day Observed" here:
>
>   http://www.usembassy.org.uk/ukpubhol.html
>
> Look for example at the second and third last entry.
>
> /gustav
>
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From jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com  Wed Apr 14 14:21:40 2004
From: jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com (jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 14:21:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: US/UK public holidays
Message-ID: <OF47DC9A3F.2E6CAF15-ON86256E76.006A39F0-86256E76.006A5A31@us.bank-dns.com>


It is the day that the Embassy will actually close for the holiday.  The
best example is Christamas.  It falls on a Saturday but the Embassy will
close on Friday.


                                                                                                                                               
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Hi all

What is the meaning of the column "Day Observed" here:

  http://www.usembassy.org.uk/ukpubhol.html

Look for example at the second and third last entry.

/gustav

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From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Wed Apr 14 16:38:46 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 17:38:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
References: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB4C@nnse14.nns.com>
	<1338986209.20040414194551@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <00c301c42268$de1619b0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...William knows nnnooottthhhinnnggg! ...just ask JC ...he'll confirm that
:)

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


> Hi Mark
>
> > I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder permissions)
to
> > only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
> > database for general use that needs to link to a table in that
restricted
> > database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the minimum
necessary
> > to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any
modifications
> > to the data?
>
> I don't think you can do this as you for the new user group would need
> to have two levels of permissions: read-only for the data file, and -
> as for the first group - create-read-write (or better:
> create-read-write-erase) for the the locking file (.ldb).
>
> This article covers your initial scenario but not your requested
> scenario, "Restrict The People Who Can Use Your Database Folder":
>
>   http://www.vb123.com/toolshed/04_docs/accessdb_op_security.htm
>
> However - as William will know - if you really need this setup, go and
> get a Novell NetWare server. Here you can control user permissions
> down to the single file; this scenario could be created in two
> minutes.
>
> /gustav
>
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>




From DaveSharpe2 at cox.net  Wed Apr 14 16:54:37 2004
From: DaveSharpe2 at cox.net (Dave Sharpe)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 17:54:37 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: US/UK public holidays
References: <591136444.20040414211415@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <008401c4226b$14b4ba10$dd2f0a44@bcsrkeext6137>

gustav

As an example
"Public Holiday" "Date"                    "Day Observed"
"Presidents Day" "3rd Monday in February"  "Monday, February 16, 2004"

Date is how the holiday is "defined", "described" or "determined"
and for many ovservance varies year to year.


Date Observed id is for 2004 the calendar day on which it falls.

If You're incorporating into something, I think that You might
need provide the Date Observed for some range of years such as
1900 to 2100. Such data is probably available somewhere on the
web.

Excel does this for it's function WORKDAY(start_date,days,holidays) forcing
the user to provide their own list.

Start_date   is a date that represents the start date. Dates may be entered
as text strings within quotation marks (for example, "1/30/1998" or
"1998/01/30"), as serial numbers (for example, 35825, which represents
January 30, 1998, if you're using the 1900 date system), or as results of
other formulas or functions (for example, DATEVALUE("1/30/1998"))

Days   is the number of nonweekend and nonholiday days before or after
start_date. A positive value for days yields a future date; a negative value
yields a past date.

Holidays   is an optional list of one or more dates to exclude from the
working calendar, such as state and federal holidays and floating holidays.
The list can be either a range of cells that contain the dates or an array
constant of the serial numbers that represent the dates. Learn about array
constants. For more information about how Microsoft Excel uses serial
numbers for dates, see the Remarks section.


Dave

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 3:14 PM
Subject: [AccessD] OT: US/UK public holidays


Hi all

What is the meaning of the column "Day Observed" here:

  http://www.usembassy.org.uk/ukpubhol.html

Look for example at the second and third last entry.

/gustav

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From DaveSharpe2 at cox.net  Wed Apr 14 17:07:43 2004
From: DaveSharpe2 at cox.net (Dave Sharpe)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 18:07:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: US/UK public holidays
References: <591136444.20040414211415@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <00a001c4226c$e94ce6c0$dd2f0a44@bcsrkeext6137>

gustav

A follow up o my earlier mailing.

These folks have lists available.
Not free but I didn't see a price list.

http://www.financialcalendar.com/products/main.htm

Dave

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 3:14 PM
Subject: [AccessD] OT: US/UK public holidays


Hi all

What is the meaning of the column "Day Observed" here:

  http://www.usembassy.org.uk/ukpubhol.html

Look for example at the second and third last entry.

/gustav

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Apr 14 17:33:31 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 08:33:31 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: US/UK public holidays
In-Reply-To: <591136444.20040414211415@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <407E48DB.8363.1540CB@localhost>

On 14 Apr 2004 at 21:14, Gustav Brock wrote:

> Hi all
> 
> What is the meaning of the column "Day Observed" here:
> 

The day that people actually "have off"

>   http://www.usembassy.org.uk/ukpubhol.html
> 
> Look for example at the second and third last entry.
> 

Where a  holiday falls on a non-working day, they take another day 
off "in lieu". ie

"New Year?s Day January 1, 2005 Friday, December 31, 2004"

New Years Day is a defined holiday which falls on 1 January. Since 
that falls on a Saturday, they are taking the Friday off.

Similarly, because Christmas and Boxing Day fall on Saturday and 
Sunday, they are taking Monday and Tuesday off.






 
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Support.





From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Wed Apr 14 18:07:03 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 17:07:03 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:  Syntax - Manipulating a sub-subform?
Message-ID: <246760-2200443142373578@christopherhawkins.com>

First, the setup:

Form frmMain contains a subform object named sFrmFind.  sFrmFind's
SourceObject is frmFind.

frmFind contains a subform object named sFrmResults.  sFrmResults'
SourceObject is frmResults.

frmResults is a datasheet with fields such as FirstName, LastName,
etc.
 
Now, my question...once frmMain is open and showing me my subforms,
how do I change the .ColumnOrder of a field in frmResults from within
the Click event of a button on frmFind?

Forms!frmMain.sFrmFind.Form!sFrmResults.Form("FirstName").ColumnOrder
= 1 isn't doing it.
Me.parent.sFrmFind.Form!sFrmResults.Form("FirstName").ColumnOrder = 1
isn't doing it either.

I keep getting 'Application-defined or object-defined error' when
either of those lines try to execute.

I'm oviously overlooking some nuance of syntax.

If I'm true to form, I'll have "one more idea" and fix it immediately
after clicking 'Send' on this eMail.  But by all means, suggest some
syntax anyway.  :)

-Christopher-




From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Apr 14 19:53:56 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 10:53:56 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Adding the word ALL to a combo - SOLVED
References: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIEEKKCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca><022d01c421d6$13918b80$48619a89@DDICK>
	<1336886412.20040414105051@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <005a01c42284$21761230$48619a89@DDICK>

Yes I did
Thanks
I actually wanted the < and the > in the appearance of the word in the list
Thanks heaps Gustav

This list is way cool. :-)))

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K:Adding the word ALL to a combo - SOLVED


> Hi Darren
> 
> > Thanks to all who responded
> > I went with Drew's suggestion
> > 'Cause he was first :-))
> 
> Yeah, but I guess you did adjust it to use "<ALL>", because "ALL"
> could be sorted within your recordset. Thus, if you have Alice and
> Susan, your combo would list:
> 
>      Alice
>      ALL
>      Susan
> 
> /gustav
> 
> > SELECT "ALL" As AField
> > FROM MyTable
> >
> > UNION SELECT MyField
> > FROM MyTable
> 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Apr 14 22:16:32 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 20:16:32 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:  Syntax - Manipulating a sub-subform?
In-Reply-To: <246760-2200443142373578@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIKEKOCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Christopher:

Did you see this entry at the DBA web site?
http://www.databaseadvisors.com/newletters/newsletter032004/0310ReferenceGui
de/SyntaxForSubs.htm (watch for wrap)

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Christopher
Hawkins
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 4:07 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Syntax - Manipulating a sub-subform?


First, the setup:

Form frmMain contains a subform object named sFrmFind.  sFrmFind's
SourceObject is frmFind.

frmFind contains a subform object named sFrmResults.  sFrmResults'
SourceObject is frmResults.

frmResults is a datasheet with fields such as FirstName, LastName,
etc.

Now, my question...once frmMain is open and showing me my subforms,
how do I change the .ColumnOrder of a field in frmResults from within
the Click event of a button on frmFind?

Forms!frmMain.sFrmFind.Form!sFrmResults.Form("FirstName").ColumnOrder
= 1 isn't doing it.
Me.parent.sFrmFind.Form!sFrmResults.Form("FirstName").ColumnOrder = 1
isn't doing it either.

I keep getting 'Application-defined or object-defined error' when
either of those lines try to execute.

I'm oviously overlooking some nuance of syntax.

If I'm true to form, I'll have "one more idea" and fix it immediately
after clicking 'Send' on this eMail.  But by all means, suggest some
syntax anyway.  :)

-Christopher-


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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Wed Apr 14 23:08:16 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 22:08:16 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:  Syntax - Manipulating a sub-subform?
Message-ID: <221950-2200444154816781@christopherhawkins.com>

Thanks!  I'll try this out tomorrow...

-Christopher-

---- Original Message ----
From: accessd at shaw.ca
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com, 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K:  Syntax - Manipulating a sub-subform?
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 20:16:32 -0700

>Hi Christopher:
>
>Did you see this entry at the DBA web site?
>http://www.databaseadvisors.com/newletters/newsletter032004/0310Refer
>enceGui
>de/SyntaxForSubs.htm (watch for wrap)
>
>HTH
>Jim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Christopher
>Hawkins
>Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 4:07 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Syntax - Manipulating a sub-subform?
>
>
>First, the setup:
>
>Form frmMain contains a subform object named sFrmFind.  sFrmFind's
>SourceObject is frmFind.
>
>frmFind contains a subform object named sFrmResults.  sFrmResults'
>SourceObject is frmResults.
>
>frmResults is a datasheet with fields such as FirstName, LastName,
>etc.
>
>Now, my question...once frmMain is open and showing me my subforms,
>how do I change the .ColumnOrder of a field in frmResults from within
>the Click event of a button on frmFind?
>
>Forms!frmMain.sFrmFind.Form!sFrmResults.Form("FirstName").ColumnOrder
>= 1 isn't doing it.
>Me.parent.sFrmFind.Form!sFrmResults.Form("FirstName").ColumnOrder = 1
>isn't doing it either.
>
>I keep getting 'Application-defined or object-defined error' when
>either of those lines try to execute.
>
>I'm oviously overlooking some nuance of syntax.
>
>If I'm true to form, I'll have "one more idea" and fix it immediately
>after clicking 'Send' on this eMail.  But by all means, suggest some
>syntax anyway.  :)
>
>-Christopher-
>
>
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From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Thu Apr 15 03:19:31 2004
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 09:19:31 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Ownership
Message-ID: <F37DAC9A2964B144A2973EBCA8C54DBDABD3BA@BURY2K23.bury.gov.uk>

Hi

Many thanks for all contributions (Stuart, Andy, Susan, Robert ,
Mastercafe and.....)  Yes its not an issue at the moment and I don't
intend to introduce it as one if I can help - I am simply trying to get
some footing should I be questioned on this matter....and as you say
Andy customers rarely go down this route. I like the standard 'proposal'
used by Stuart and may adopt something similar. 

Thanks again

Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart McLachlan [mailto:stuart at lexacorp.com.pg] 
Sent: 14 April 2004 00:21
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Ownership

On 13 Apr 2004 at 20:11, Andy Lacey wrote:

> Hi Richard
> It has always been my understanding that, unless a contract states
> otherwise, the source code belongs to the developer. 

I don't know about the UK, but in many situations, it is much more 
complicated than that.

>Having said that,
> however, it has equally always been my stance that if I'm being paid
to
> develop something then ethically what I develop specifically for the
client
> is 100% theirs. But the key word is 'specifically'. Most of us have an
awful
> lot of code in our lockers that we'll bring out in any development. 

In reality, *everyone* capable of developing a marketable solution does
this.

>The
> client needs to understand this and needs to see that he gets the
benefit
> because he doesn't pay for that stuff. It may be this that gives us
our
> marketing edge when we go into bat for the work.
> 

My standard "proposal" template says:

"The application will have been developed by Lexacorp for your use, 
but the developed application will incorporate code fragments and 
ideas that have previously been developed by Lexacorp and all 
intellectual property rights to the application remains the property 
of Lexacorp.  

You will receive a copy of the source code for the application and 
will be granted a non-exclusive licence to use such source code for 
maintenance and future development of the said application for your 
own use in such manner as you see fit. 
....
You may not sell or otherwise dispose of the said source code, or any 
application developed utilising all or part of it to any third party 
without the express agreement of  Lexacorp. "  



 
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr 15 04:47:52 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 11:47:52 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: US/UK public holidays
In-Reply-To: <00a001c4226c$e94ce6c0$dd2f0a44@bcsrkeext6137>
References: <591136444.20040414211415@cactus.dk>
	<00a001c4226c$e94ce6c0$dd2f0a44@bcsrkeext6137>
Message-ID: <1719482024.20040415114752@cactus.dk>

Hi Dave

Nice link for calendar freaks. Notice the tab with Free Stuff.

/gustav


> These folks have lists available.
> Not free but I didn't see a price list.

> http://www.financialcalendar.com/products/main.htm



From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr 15 04:36:22 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 11:36:22 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: US/UK public holidays
In-Reply-To: <591136444.20040414211415@cactus.dk>
References: <591136444.20040414211415@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <1058792482.20040415113622@cactus.dk>

Thanks for all the responses!

> The day that people actually "have off"

But is this a commom business rule in US and UK or is just an
arrangement for the embassies? And is there "a rule"? I notice that
for Christmas Day you have two different Day Observed - looks like UK
picks the proceeding workday while US picks the following workday.

Here it is just "bad luck" for the citizens if a fixed date public
holiday falls within a weekend or collides with a moveable holiday.

/gustav


> What is the meaning of the column "Day Observed" here:

>   http://www.usembassy.org.uk/ukpubhol.html

> Look for example at the second and third last entry.



From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Thu Apr 15 07:42:49 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 05:42:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Show proces-step?!
Message-ID: <20040415124249.74695.qmail@web61103.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi group,
 
I want the user to see what's currently going in the application. So if a user wants to proces 250 files (5-10 minutes) I want to show what file is currently being processed (me thinks this being pretty nasty English...sorry for that).
 
Something like:
Processing File: 9 of 21
Filename: 100_54_20040412.dat
 
Does anybody have any tips/examples?
 
TIA
 
Sander

		
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From jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com  Thu Apr 15 07:56:50 2004
From: jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com (jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 07:56:50 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Show proces-step?!
Message-ID: <OF0240BD52.10DDC968-ON86256E77.0046C4E6-86256E77.00471EC3@us.bank-dns.com>


One option is to place a label on your form and update it as you are
progressing through.

dim currentfilenumber as interger
dim totalfilenumber as interger
dim progressmessage as string

totalfilenumber = <<Total File Count>>
currentfilenumber = <<Current File Number Being Processed>>

progressmessage = "Processing File: " & currentfilenumber & " of "
totalfilenumber & chr(13) & chr(10)
progressmessage = progressmessage & "Filename: " & currentfilename

Another option is to look in the help about using the Status Bar.


me.lblProgress.Capation = progressmessage
Doevents


                                                                                                                                               
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Hi group,

I want the user to see what's currently going in the application. So if a
user wants to proces 250 files (5-10 minutes) I want to show what file is
currently being processed (me thinks this being pretty nasty
English...sorry for that).

Something like:
Processing File: 9 of 21
Filename: 100_54_20040412.dat

Does anybody have any tips/examples?

TIA

Sander


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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr 15 08:08:18 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:08:18 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Show proces-step?!
In-Reply-To: <OF0240BD52.10DDC968-ON86256E77.0046C4E6-86256E77.00471EC3@us.bank-dns.com>
References: <OF0240BD52.10DDC968-ON86256E77.0046C4E6-86256E77.00471EC3@us.bank-dns.com>
Message-ID: <3021508337.20040415150818@cactus.dk>

Hi Jeffrey and Sander

> me.lblProgress.Capation = progressmessage
> Doevents

I've found that Me.Repaint can be more effective.

/gustav



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr 15 08:14:03 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 09:14:03 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Show proces-step?!
In-Reply-To: <20040415124249.74695.qmail@web61103.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPAEKEHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Sander,

I have a progress form on my web site that can be opened and methods of the
form called to display messages, increment a progress bar etc.  Click the
Misc Demos button.  The file is C2DbDemoWaitform A2K or A97.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 8:43 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] Show proces-step?!


Hi group,

I want the user to see what's currently going in the application. So if a
user wants to proces 250 files (5-10 minutes) I want to show what file is
currently being processed (me thinks this being pretty nasty English...sorry
for that).

Something like:
Processing File: 9 of 21
Filename: 100_54_20040412.dat

Does anybody have any tips/examples?

TIA

Sander


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From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca  Thu Apr 15 08:20:07 2004
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 09:20:07 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: US/UK public holidays
Message-ID: <s07e53d1.009@cbc.ca>

Here in Canada it is usually the closest business day that becomes the
holiday. So if the holiday fall on Saturday, the observed holiday is the
Friday previous. If the holiday falls on a Sunday, then the observed day
is the Monday.

Now to add to complication, if the place of employement has a union
collective agreement, that may make the descision which day is observed
at that particular company.

Where I work, my collective agreement used to state that the observed
day must be in the same work week as the week that the holiday fell.
Since our work week is Monday to Sunday, all of our observed holidays
would be on the Friday (or Thursday and Friday if both weekend days were
holidays). So we would be closed when other businesses were open and
open when everyone else was closed. I think that it has now changed, but
I'm not 100% sure.

Bryan Carbonnell
bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca

>>> gustav at cactus.dk 15-Apr-04 5:36:22 AM >>>
Thanks for all the responses!

> The day that people actually "have off"

But is this a commom business rule in US and UK or is just an
arrangement for the embassies? And is there "a rule"? I notice that
for Christmas Day you have two different Day Observed - looks like UK
picks the proceeding workday while US picks the following workday.

Here it is just "bad luck" for the citizens if a fixed date public
holiday falls within a weekend or collides with a moveable holiday.

/gustav


> What is the meaning of the column "Day Observed" here:

>   http://www.usembassy.org.uk/ukpubhol.html 

> Look for example at the second and third last entry.



From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Thu Apr 15 08:33:48 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 06:33:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Show proces-step?! <SOLVED>
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPAEKEHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <20040415133348.86789.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi John,
 
i've downloaded the file...looks pretty complex though but solid!
 
Jeffrey, thanks for you're idea. If johns demo is to complex for me you'res sounds fine.
 
Thnx again.
 
Sander

"John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:

Sander,

I have a progress form on my web site that can be opened and methods of the
form called to display messages, increment a progress bar etc. Click the
Misc Demos button. The file is C2DbDemoWaitform A2K or A97.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


One option is to place a label on your form and update it as you are
progressing through.

dim currentfilenumber as interger
dim totalfilenumber as interger
dim progressmessage as string

totalfilenumber = <<Total File Count>>
currentfilenumber = <<Current File Number Being Processed>>

progressmessage = "Processing File: " & currentfilenumber & " of "
totalfilenumber & chr(13) & chr(10)
progressmessage = progressmessage & "Filename: " & currentfilename

Another option is to look in the help about using the Status Bar.


me.lblProgress.Capation = progressmessage
Doevents

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 8:43 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] Show proces-step?!


Hi group,

I want the user to see what's currently going in the application. So if a
user wants to proces 250 files (5-10 minutes) I want to show what file is
currently being processed (me thinks this being pretty nasty English...sorry
for that).

Something like:
Processing File: 9 of 21
Filename: 100_54_20040412.dat

Does anybody have any tips/examples?

TIA

Sander


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr 15 08:59:02 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 09:59:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Show proces-step?! <SOLVED>
In-Reply-To: <20040415133348.86789.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPOEKEHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Just look at the demo setup code.  It's really pretty easy to use.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 9:34 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Show proces-step?! <SOLVED>


Hi John,

i've downloaded the file...looks pretty complex though but solid!

Jeffrey, thanks for you're idea. If johns demo is to complex for me you'res
sounds fine.

Thnx again.

Sander

"John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:

Sander,

I have a progress form on my web site that can be opened and methods of the
form called to display messages, increment a progress bar etc. Click the
Misc Demos button. The file is C2DbDemoWaitform A2K or A97.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


One option is to place a label on your form and update it as you are
progressing through.

dim currentfilenumber as interger
dim totalfilenumber as interger
dim progressmessage as string

totalfilenumber = <<Total File Count>>
currentfilenumber = <<Current File Number Being Processed>>

progressmessage = "Processing File: " & currentfilenumber & " of "
totalfilenumber & chr(13) & chr(10)
progressmessage = progressmessage & "Filename: " & currentfilename

Another option is to look in the help about using the Status Bar.


me.lblProgress.Capation = progressmessage
Doevents

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 8:43 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] Show proces-step?!


Hi group,

I want the user to see what's currently going in the application. So if a
user wants to proces 250 files (5-10 minutes) I want to show what file is
currently being processed (me thinks this being pretty nasty English...sorry
for that).

Something like:
Processing File: 9 of 21
Filename: 100_54_20040412.dat

Does anybody have any tips/examples?

TIA

Sander


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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Thu Apr 15 10:17:53 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 10:17:53 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Archives are back online!
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227ACF@main2.marlow.com>

The archives at http://www.wolfwares.com/AccessD are back online! Yippie!

Drew


From tim at irwingreenhouses.com  Thu Apr 15 14:00:30 2004
From: tim at irwingreenhouses.com (Tim Thiessen)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 14:00:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Inventory Design
Message-ID: <002701c4231b$ed59f000$7800a8c0@timt>

Hi Group!
The company I work for produces products that are persiable.  Our inventory
setup has worked well in the past but now our market is changing and we need
to make a change.  Currently, we physically count products and place on the
inventory for a week period.  With the new markets, we will need to be able
to track future inventory or production and apply future orders to it in
order  to know what is or is not available on a certain date in the future.
We will need to be working up to 18 months in advance.  This will primarily
be used to help sales and to plan production.  Has anyone had any experience
with doing this sort of thing and have any advice in designing tables to
accomplish this?

Tim Thiessen
Production Manager
Irwin Greenhouses, Inc.
806-655-7811
Fax 806-655-3046



From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Apr 15 14:39:39 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:39:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Decompile
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB6C@nnse14.nns.com>

Has anyone seen a case where /decompile did not appear to do anything?  I'm
getting the same "corrupt" error message as before.  I have 2 objects that
appear to be the culprits.  I get the same "corrupt" error message when
trying to import these objects into a new database (no error messages on the
other objects).  In the corrupted database I cannot go into the IDE at
all...I get the same "corrupt" error message.  This is actually the first
time I've been bitten, without having a recent backup to fall back to, and
I'm stressing.  Any suggestions?



Mark


From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Apr 15 14:51:14 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 12:51:14 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Inventory Design
References: <002701c4231b$ed59f000$7800a8c0@timt>
Message-ID: <015701c42323$02e81c10$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Tim:

Take a look at www.ezmrp.com

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Thiessen" <tim at irwingreenhouses.com>
To: "AccessD List (E-mail)" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 12:00 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Inventory Design


> Hi Group!
> The company I work for produces products that are persiable.  Our
inventory
> setup has worked well in the past but now our market is changing and we
need
> to make a change.  Currently, we physically count products and place on
the
> inventory for a week period.  With the new markets, we will need to be
able
> to track future inventory or production and apply future orders to it in
> order  to know what is or is not available on a certain date in the
future.
> We will need to be working up to 18 months in advance.  This will
primarily
> be used to help sales and to plan production.  Has anyone had any
experience
> with doing this sort of thing and have any advice in designing tables to
> accomplish this?
>
> Tim Thiessen
> Production Manager
> Irwin Greenhouses, Inc.
> 806-655-7811
> Fax 806-655-3046
>
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From JHewson at karta.com  Thu Apr 15 14:52:45 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 14:52:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox contents
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C138357@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>


I am having difficulty figuring this one out.

A97.  
I have a list box with over 130 items all rows are distinct but a few columns are duplicates.  The ListBox is sorted on two text fields which puts the ID number out of sequence.  The ComboBox sorts and "Groups By" duplicate columns.  What I want to do is use the ComboBox to jump to the first instance of one of the duplicate columns.

e.g.

ID	CourseName	City
135	CCP		EC
90	DIS		EC
87	DIS		MP
18	DOC		CD
17	DOC		SR
55	DSC M		AL
57	DSC M		EC
43	DSC M		MP
28	DSC M		SF
3	DSC M		SR

What I want is:
135	CCP		EC
90	DIS		EC
18	DOC		CD
55	DSC M		AL
3	DSC M		SR

What I get is:
135	CCP		EC
87	DIS		MP
17	DOC		SR
3	DSC M		SR

What needs to be done to what the desired results?

Thanks,

Jim 

From garykjos at hotmail.com  Thu Apr 15 14:56:37 2004
From: garykjos at hotmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 14:56:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Decompile
Message-ID: <BAY2-F144cL9NtDEJmG00010a46@hotmail.com>

Hi Mark,

1) Make a copy.

2) Run the stand alone repair utility jetcomp.exe on the copy.

If that doesn't work....

3) make a new empty database and try to import the objects from the copy. 
You may have to do this one object at a time.

Gary Kjos
garykjos at hotmail.com





>From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: [AccessD] Decompile
>Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:39:39 -0400
>
>Has anyone seen a case where /decompile did not appear to do anything?  I'm
>getting the same "corrupt" error message as before.  I have 2 objects that
>appear to be the culprits.  I get the same "corrupt" error message when
>trying to import these objects into a new database (no error messages on 
>the
>other objects).  In the corrupted database I cannot go into the IDE at
>all...I get the same "corrupt" error message.  This is actually the first
>time I've been bitten, without having a recent backup to fall back to, and
>I'm stressing.  Any suggestions?
>
>
>
>Mark
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From CMackin at Quiznos.com  Thu Apr 15 14:58:29 2004
From: CMackin at Quiznos.com (Mackin, Christopher)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 13:58:29 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Decompile
Message-ID: <8950FA061E09F3478FDC2DE9FA86D83D376A5B@bross.quiznos.net>

I've always had to resort to importing the objects into a new db, the
corrupt ones won't come, then rebuild those from scratch

-Chris Mackin

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 1:40 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Decompile


Has anyone seen a case where /decompile did not appear to do anything?  I'm
getting the same "corrupt" error message as before.  I have 2 objects that
appear to be the culprits.  I get the same "corrupt" error message when
trying to import these objects into a new database (no error messages on the
other objects).  In the corrupted database I cannot go into the IDE at
all...I get the same "corrupt" error message.  This is actually the first
time I've been bitten, without having a recent backup to fall back to, and
I'm stressing.  Any suggestions?



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From Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com  Thu Apr 15 15:07:16 2004
From: Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com (Pickering, Stephen)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 13:07:16 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Decompile
Message-ID: <CF0EA31794DDD611ADDC00065B88640C039A2F65@s98027.psd.caremark.int>

Mark,

Import every object except the corrupt ones.  If you don't have a version of
these objects that isn't corrupt, you will need to rebuild them.

Also, back up early and often.  Corruption happens.  It's sometimes, but not
always, because of something you've done.  Best to be prepared.  Some
databases never come back....

Steve

-----Mark S. Mitsules' Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 2:40 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Decompile


Has anyone seen a case where /decompile did not appear to do anything?  I'm
getting the same "corrupt" error message as before.  I have 2 objects that
appear to be the culprits.  I get the same "corrupt" error message when
trying to import these objects into a new database (no error messages on the
other objects).  In the corrupted database I cannot go into the IDE at
all...I get the same "corrupt" error message.  This is actually the first
time I've been bitten, without having a recent backup to fall back to, and
I'm stressing.  Any suggestions?



Mark
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Apr 15 15:08:00 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 16:08:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Decompile
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB6D@nnse14.nns.com>

Gary,

I had forgotten about that utility...thanks, I'll give it a try. As for
importing I've already done that.  Unfortunately, The 2 objects that appear
to be corrupted are both Modules:(


Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Kjos [mailto:garykjos at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 3:57 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Decompile


Hi Mark,

1) Make a copy.

2) Run the stand alone repair utility jetcomp.exe on the copy.

If that doesn't work....

3) make a new empty database and try to import the objects from the copy. 
You may have to do this one object at a time.

Gary Kjos
garykjos at hotmail.com





>From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: [AccessD] Decompile
>Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:39:39 -0400
>
>Has anyone seen a case where /decompile did not appear to do anything?  I'm
>getting the same "corrupt" error message as before.  I have 2 objects that
>appear to be the culprits.  I get the same "corrupt" error message when
>trying to import these objects into a new database (no error messages on 
>the
>other objects).  In the corrupted database I cannot go into the IDE at
>all...I get the same "corrupt" error message.  This is actually the first
>time I've been bitten, without having a recent backup to fall back to, and
>I'm stressing.  Any suggestions?
>
>
>
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From jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com  Thu Apr 15 15:03:23 2004
From: jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com (jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:03:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Using TransferDatabase to link table from password
	protectd db
Message-ID: <OFEAD4A8D1.CB964D3A-ON86256E77.006DCA7F-86256E77.006E2BCB@us.bank-dns.com>


I have the following code in a database.  Works fine if there is no
password on the database.  However I need to add a password to the database
the is being linked to.  How can I modify the code so that it accepts a
password and does not prompt the user for one?


Sub linkdatatable(mytable As String)

    'Link in tables for query
    If IsLinked(mytable) = False Then
        DoCmd.TransferDatabase acLink, "Microsoft Access", GetDataFile,
acTable, mytable, mytable, False
    End If
End Sub


TIA





From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Apr 15 15:15:52 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 16:15:52 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Decompile
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB6E@nnse14.nns.com>

Yep, this was completely my fault.  I had asked someone to beta test a form
for me.  Unfortunately, I still had it open in design mode when he opened
it.  I closed my instance of the form.  The functionality was immediately
suspect on his instance because a particular dynamic report was not changing
its recordsource as expected.  As soon as he exited the db I did the same.
When I re-entered the db I used an ldb viewer and noticed that the ldb
listed him as not logged on, but "suspect" just the same.  That was the last
time the db opened normally:(



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Pickering, Stephen [mailto:Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:07 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Decompile


Mark,

Import every object except the corrupt ones.  If you don't have a version of
these objects that isn't corrupt, you will need to rebuild them.

Also, back up early and often.  Corruption happens.  It's sometimes, but not
always, because of something you've done.  Best to be prepared.  Some
databases never come back....

Steve

-----Mark S. Mitsules' Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 2:40 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Decompile


Has anyone seen a case where /decompile did not appear to do anything?  I'm
getting the same "corrupt" error message as before.  I have 2 objects that
appear to be the culprits.  I get the same "corrupt" error message when
trying to import these objects into a new database (no error messages on the
other objects).  In the corrupted database I cannot go into the IDE at
all...I get the same "corrupt" error message.  This is actually the first
time I've been bitten, without having a recent backup to fall back to, and
I'm stressing.  Any suggestions?



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From Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com  Thu Apr 15 15:22:07 2004
From: Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com (Pickering, Stephen)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:22:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Decompile
Message-ID: <CF0EA31794DDD611ADDC00065B88640C039A2F67@s98027.psd.caremark.int>

Another thing to try on the offending objects....

Strip all of the code from them if you can.  (If you can't, this won't work.)
Paste the code into Notepad if you can.

Repair and compact the database, then decompile and recompile.  Then paste
your offending code back into the object's modules.  Then recompile.

I've saved at least one database this way.

HTH,

Steve

-----Stephen Pickering's Original Message-----

Mark,

Import every object except the corrupt ones.  If you don't have a version of
these objects that isn't corrupt, you will need to rebuild them.

Also, back up early and often.  Corruption happens.  It's sometimes, but not
always, because of something you've done.  Best to be prepared.  Some
databases never come back....

Steve

-----Mark S. Mitsules' Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 2:40 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Decompile


Has anyone seen a case where /decompile did not appear to do anything?  I'm
getting the same "corrupt" error message as before.  I have 2 objects that
appear to be the culprits.  I get the same "corrupt" error message when
trying to import these objects into a new database (no error messages on the
other objects).  In the corrupted database I cannot go into the IDE at
all...I get the same "corrupt" error message.  This is actually the first
time I've been bitten, without having a recent backup to fall back to, and
I'm stressing.  Any suggestions?



Mark
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Apr 15 15:30:43 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 13:30:43 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
Message-ID: <017f01c42328$86d422d0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Dear List:

A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it to be 300dpi.

What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?

MTIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com



From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Apr 15 15:30:41 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 16:30:41 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Decompile
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB6F@nnse14.nns.com>

No joy with Jetcomp.  Although the db did open without error, still could
not get to the IDE to retrieve the code.



Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Kjos [mailto:garykjos at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 3:57 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Decompile


Hi Mark,

1) Make a copy.

2) Run the stand alone repair utility jetcomp.exe on the copy.

If that doesn't work....

3) make a new empty database and try to import the objects from the copy. 
You may have to do this one object at a time.

Gary Kjos
garykjos at hotmail.com





>From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: [AccessD] Decompile
>Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:39:39 -0400
>
>Has anyone seen a case where /decompile did not appear to do anything?  I'm
>getting the same "corrupt" error message as before.  I have 2 objects that
>appear to be the culprits.  I get the same "corrupt" error message when
>trying to import these objects into a new database (no error messages on 
>the
>other objects).  In the corrupted database I cannot go into the IDE at
>all...I get the same "corrupt" error message.  This is actually the first
>time I've been bitten, without having a recent backup to fall back to, and
>I'm stressing.  Any suggestions?
>
>
>
>Mark
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Apr 15 15:34:13 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 16:34:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB70@nnse14.nns.com>

Alt+PrintScreen will copy the current active window to the clipboard.
Ctrl+PrintScreen will copy the desktop to the clipboard.

Then, paste into whatever program you'd like.

Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:31 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


Dear List:

A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it to be
300dpi.

What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?

MTIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Thu Apr 15 15:45:06 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:45:06 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox content
	s
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227AD3@main2.marlow.com>

In the section that you 'want', what is the difference between DSC M and DSC
M?  Why would you want 2, when you have 1 of everything else?

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 2:53 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox contents



I am having difficulty figuring this one out.

A97.  
I have a list box with over 130 items all rows are distinct but a few
columns are duplicates.  The ListBox is sorted on two text fields which puts
the ID number out of sequence.  The ComboBox sorts and "Groups By" duplicate
columns.  What I want to do is use the ComboBox to jump to the first
instance of one of the duplicate columns.

e.g.

ID	CourseName	City
135	CCP		EC
90	DIS		EC
87	DIS		MP
18	DOC		CD
17	DOC		SR
55	DSC M		AL
57	DSC M		EC
43	DSC M		MP
28	DSC M		SF
3	DSC M		SR

What I want is:
135	CCP		EC
90	DIS		EC
18	DOC		CD
55	DSC M		AL
3	DSC M		SR

What I get is:
135	CCP		EC
87	DIS		MP
17	DOC		SR
3	DSC M		SR

What needs to be done to what the desired results?

Thanks,

Jim 


From JHewson at karta.com  Thu Apr 15 15:44:38 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:44:38 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox contents
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C138358@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

My error.  I only need one.
Thanks for noticing.
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 3:45 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox
contents


In the section that you 'want', what is the difference between DSC M and DSC
M?  Why would you want 2, when you have 1 of everything else?

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 2:53 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox contents



I am having difficulty figuring this one out.

A97.  
I have a list box with over 130 items all rows are distinct but a few
columns are duplicates.  The ListBox is sorted on two text fields which puts
the ID number out of sequence.  The ComboBox sorts and "Groups By" duplicate
columns.  What I want to do is use the ComboBox to jump to the first
instance of one of the duplicate columns.

e.g.

ID	CourseName	City
135	CCP		EC
90	DIS		EC
87	DIS		MP
18	DOC		CD
17	DOC		SR
55	DSC M		AL
57	DSC M		EC
43	DSC M		MP
28	DSC M		SF
3	DSC M		SR

What I want is:
135	CCP		EC
90	DIS		EC
18	DOC		CD
55	DSC M		AL
3	DSC M		SR

What I get is:
135	CCP		EC
87	DIS		MP
17	DOC		SR
3	DSC M		SR

What needs to be done to what the desired results?

Thanks,

Jim 
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Thu Apr 15 16:04:29 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 16:04:29 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox content
	s
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227AD5@main2.marlow.com>

Well, Access doesn't necessarily 'store' the information the way that you
see it.  So you will need some field to 'sort/group' by.  For instance, if
you want the 'highest' ID, then GroupBy CourseName and set Max for the ID.  

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 3:45 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox
contents


My error.  I only need one.
Thanks for noticing.
Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 3:45 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox
contents


In the section that you 'want', what is the difference between DSC M and DSC
M?  Why would you want 2, when you have 1 of everything else?

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 2:53 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox contents



I am having difficulty figuring this one out.

A97.  
I have a list box with over 130 items all rows are distinct but a few
columns are duplicates.  The ListBox is sorted on two text fields which puts
the ID number out of sequence.  The ComboBox sorts and "Groups By" duplicate
columns.  What I want to do is use the ComboBox to jump to the first
instance of one of the duplicate columns.

e.g.

ID	CourseName	City
135	CCP		EC
90	DIS		EC
87	DIS		MP
18	DOC		CD
17	DOC		SR
55	DSC M		AL
57	DSC M		EC
43	DSC M		MP
28	DSC M		SF
3	DSC M		SR

What I want is:
135	CCP		EC
90	DIS		EC
18	DOC		CD
55	DSC M		AL
3	DSC M		SR

What I get is:
135	CCP		EC
87	DIS		MP
17	DOC		SR
3	DSC M		SR

What needs to be done to what the desired results?

Thanks,

Jim 
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From garykjos at hotmail.com  Thu Apr 15 16:08:59 2004
From: garykjos at hotmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 16:08:59 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Decompile
Message-ID: <BAY2-F120GkqRx8p7pa0001038f@hotmail.com>

>No joy with Jetcomp.  Although the db did open without error, still could
>not get to the IDE to retrieve the code.
>
>
>
>Mark

Toasted them eh? I'm sorry for you.

Small consolation I know, but It's been my experince that rewriting code 
that's been lost is a lot easier than it was to write originally. And you 
get the chance to make those changes you thought about but didn't do. :-)

Good luck! And I'd guess you will be doing some more frequent saves as 
different names for a while. ;-)

Gary Kjos
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Thu Apr 15 16:11:39 2004
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 17:11:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Dr Watson Errors on Broadband connection
Message-ID: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF407AD81CA@xlivmbx12.aig.com>

X-Posted to Access-L and Access-D

I have an Access97 database, split FE/BE. The BE resides on a network drive,
and the FE is on the user's local C drive and it is an MDE file that
references a library MDE that is also on the network. All references use the
full UNC path to the files, not mapped drives.

I have a user who has no trouble when he's in the office docked and
connected to the LAN. The database also works fine when he's at a remote
location that has a dedicated T1 line into our LAN.

However, when he tries to access the database, using the exact same
computer, but connected to the LAN via his cable modem and our VPN s/w he
finds that Access crashes, giving a Dr. Watson error before any sign of the
application appears on screen. 

It's one of those "Exception access violation (0xc0000005), Address
0c651503f7" type Dr. Watsons that one typically sees if an MDE application
tries to reference an MDE library that has been modified and recompiled. If
you don't recompile the client MDE you get this type of Dr. Watson.

The only trouble is the library has not been recompiled recently.

Any ideas any one????

Lambert 


From dw-murphy at cox.net  Thu Apr 15 16:13:53 2004
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 14:13:53 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
In-Reply-To: <017f01c42328$86d422d0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <000e01c4232e$91a9ab20$8500a8c0@CX615377a>

I like Snagit, http://www.techsmith.com/.  It gives you lots of
versitility in making screen shots as far as selecting the portion of
the screen you want to copy, etc.  You can save time image in all the
common formats.

Doug

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Murphy's Creativity
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doug at murphyscreativity.com
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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
- Beach Access Software
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 1:31 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


Dear List:

A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it
to be 300dpi.

What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?

MTIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Thu Apr 15 16:17:42 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 16:17:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
In-Reply-To: <30152573.1082061814091.JavaMail.root@sniper5.usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <000501c4232f$1783df90$de1811d8@danwaters>

First, to get just the Active window from Access, the form needs to have
Modal = Yes and PopUp = Yes.  Then Alt+PrintScreen will work.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark S.
(Newport News)
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 3:34 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot

Alt+PrintScreen will copy the current active window to the clipboard.
Ctrl+PrintScreen will copy the desktop to the clipboard.

Then, paste into whatever program you'd like.

Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:31 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


Dear List:

A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it to be
300dpi.

What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?

MTIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Thu Apr 15 16:19:57 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 16:19:57 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Decompile
In-Reply-To: <4518625.1082063843829.JavaMail.root@sniper5.usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <000601c4232f$680687b0$de1811d8@danwaters>

My rule is that if I can still read the letters on my Ctrl key and my S key
than I'm probably not saving enough!

Dan

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:09 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Decompile

>No joy with Jetcomp.  Although the db did open without error, still could
>not get to the IDE to retrieve the code.
>
>
>
>Mark

Toasted them eh? I'm sorry for you.

Small consolation I know, but It's been my experince that rewriting code 
that's been lost is a lot easier than it was to write originally. And you 
get the chance to make those changes you thought about but didn't do. :-)

Good luck! And I'd guess you will be doing some more frequent saves as 
different names for a while. ;-)

Gary Kjos
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 15 16:24:23 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 17:24:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
In-Reply-To: <000e01c4232e$91a9ab20$8500a8c0@CX615377a>
Message-ID: <20040415212420.GPZK1773.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I think the issue is probably controlling the 300 dpi -- is that correct
Rocky? Not every program lets you set the dpi.

Susan H. 

I like Snagit, http://www.techsmith.com/.  It gives you lots of versitility
in making screen shots as far as selecting the portion of the screen you
want to copy, etc.  You can save time image in all the common formats.




From john at winhaven.net  Thu Apr 15 16:31:00 2004
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 16:31:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
In-Reply-To: <017f01c42328$86d422d0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKIOEOPFFAA.john@winhaven.net>

Rocky,
Odd that they would ask you to do it for them at that dpi. Normally a screen
capture would be at 96 dpi. And for what its worth they should be able to
manipulate it to their desired quality better than you.

If you download SnagIt they give you an evaluation period. You can set the
resolution to 300. Otherwise if you have a graphics editing program you can
copy the screen as Mark suggested and then paste it into your graphics
program then increase the resolution to 300 dpi. All this will do is use
pixel interpolation to increase the dpi.

Print it out to make sure it looks good in print before sending it though.
What you see isn't what you get when it comes to printing graphics.

good luck,
John

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Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 3:31 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


Dear List:

A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it to be
300dpi.

What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?

MTIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com

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From Subscriptions at servicexp.com  Thu Apr 15 17:06:44 2004
From: Subscriptions at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 18:06:44 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Decompile
In-Reply-To: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB6F@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <GPEGJHKJCEPGJIEIOEOOKEDJDLAA.Subscriptions@servicexp.com>


Mark,

If you can see the Object in the Access container, then you may be able to
right click on it and export it into a new db. I just had to do this two
weeks ago and while the very first time it did not seem to work, I tried it
again (system was tied up for about 5 min) and wham I was able to export the
class I was working on out of the corrupt db. This will only work if the
code is not password protected...


Robert Gracie
www.servicexp.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
S. (Newport News)
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:31 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Decompile


No joy with Jetcomp.  Although the db did open without error, still could
not get to the IDE to retrieve the code.



Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Kjos [mailto:garykjos at hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 3:57 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Decompile


Hi Mark,

1) Make a copy.

2) Run the stand alone repair utility jetcomp.exe on the copy.

If that doesn't work....

3) make a new empty database and try to import the objects from the copy.
You may have to do this one object at a time.

Gary Kjos
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>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: [AccessD] Decompile
>Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:39:39 -0400
>
>Has anyone seen a case where /decompile did not appear to do anything?  I'm
>getting the same "corrupt" error message as before.  I have 2 objects that
>appear to be the culprits.  I get the same "corrupt" error message when
>trying to import these objects into a new database (no error messages on
>the
>other objects).  In the corrupted database I cannot go into the IDE at
>all...I get the same "corrupt" error message.  This is actually the first
>time I've been bitten, without having a recent backup to fall back to, and
>I'm stressing.  Any suggestions?
>
>
>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 15 17:25:10 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 08:25:10 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
In-Reply-To: <017f01c42328$86d422d0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <407F9866.27925.1571AF@localhost>

On 15 Apr 2004 at 13:30, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access S wrote:

> Dear List:
> 
> A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it to be 300dpi.
> 
> What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?
> 

I like Irfanview.

http://www.irfanview.com

You can capture the screen or the foreground window and then 
manipulate the image  (including cropping if necessary and  setting 
DPI if required)  before saving it in just about any format 
imaginable.


 
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From Paul.Millard at freight.fedex.com  Thu Apr 15 17:30:16 2004
From: Paul.Millard at freight.fedex.com (Millard,
	Paul --- Sr. Developer Analyst ---WGO)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:30:16 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: SQL SERVER Format Date
Message-ID: <67B2D43A2067B248A36B007650A2312C35F96D@PSJOE2K1.fxfwest.freight.fedex.com>

Hi,

I know this isn't the right forum to ask but I need help formatting date from the SQL Server default output into "mm/dd".  The query results are reported in an asp page.

Thanks in advance,
Paul Millard


Here is my query and results....

----query----
set 
datefirst 1 
select top 13 
Week = (DateAdd(day, (-1 * datepart(dw, t1.ReqEntryDate)) + 1, t1.ReqEntryDate))
from tblPrFieldSales t1 where t1.ReqEntryDate >= '3/1/2004' 
order by Week DESC   

----results----
2004-04-12 00:00:00.000
2004-04-12 00:00:00.000
2004-04-12 00:00:00.000
2004-04-12 00:00:00.000

----ideal results----
04/12
04/12...
 


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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Apr 15 17:50:38 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:50:38 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
References: <20040415212420.GPZK1773.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <01a101c4233c$126a41e0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

That's it.  They need 300dpi.  Or close, I suppose, as I can get it.

Rocky

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Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 2:24 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


> I think the issue is probably controlling the 300 dpi -- is that correct
> Rocky? Not every program lets you set the dpi.
>
> Susan H.
>
> I like Snagit, http://www.techsmith.com/.  It gives you lots of
versitility
> in making screen shots as far as selecting the portion of the screen you
> want to copy, etc.  You can save time image in all the common formats.
>
>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 15 17:58:07 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 08:58:07 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: SQL SERVER Format Date
In-Reply-To: <67B2D43A2067B248A36B007650A2312C35F96D@PSJOE2K1.fxfwest.freight.fedex.com>
Message-ID: <407FA01F.22869.339AD0@localhost>

On 15 Apr 2004 at 15:30, Millard,	Paul --- Sr. Develop wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I know this isn't the right forum to ask but I need help formatting date from the SQL Server default output into "mm/dd".  The query results are reported in an asp page.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Paul Millard
> 
> 
> Here is my query and results....
> 
> ----query----
> set 
> datefirst 1 
> select top 13 
> Week = (DateAdd(day, (-1 * datepart(dw, t1.ReqEntryDate)) + 1, t1.ReqEntryDate))
> from tblPrFieldSales t1 where t1.ReqEntryDate >= '3/1/2004' 
> order by Week DESC   
> 
> ----results----
> 2004-04-12 00:00:00.000
> 2004-04-12 00:00:00.000
> 2004-04-12 00:00:00.000
> 2004-04-12 00:00:00.000
> 
> ----ideal results----
> 04/12
> 04/12...
>  

Try

Week = Convert(char(5), (DateAdd(day, (-1 * 
datepart(dw,t1.ReqEntryDate)) + 1, t1.ReqEntryDate)),1)




 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 15 17:59:15 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 08:59:15 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
In-Reply-To: <01a101c4233c$126a41e0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <407FA063.21112.34A470@localhost>

On 15 Apr 2004 at 15:50, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:

> That's it.  They need 300dpi.  Or close, I suppose, as I can get it.
> 
> Rocky
> 

It's very easy to set to any value you  want with Irfanview.




 
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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Thu Apr 15 18:05:53 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 17:05:53 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Deleted response:  Reference sub-subform from subform?
Message-ID: <410-22004441523553543@christopherhawkins.com>

I'm so sorry, but I accidentall deleted the responses I got on my
issue with how to reference a sub-sub form from within a sub form.

Can anyone who responded please re-send?  Thanks.

-Christopher-






From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 15 18:18:23 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 19:18:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
References: <017f01c42328$86d422d0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <000a01c4233f$f2bc6040$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...don't use any program that initially captures your screen as a jpeg ...I
won't go into the details here but when you save an image as a jpeg you are
using a lossy algorithm that throws away portions of the graphic ...its the
nature of the beast ...in order to give them the high quality jpeg they
need, start with a decent graphics program that lets you capture the image
in a high quality, uncompressed format to begin with ...Photoshop and
paintshoppro are the mainstream programs ...I personally use paintshoppro
(www.jasc.com) ...set your screen resolution to the highest resolution your
graphics card can support and make sure your image capture area is clean and
clear at that resolution ...capture the image and save it into un
uncompressed format, preferably the native format of your graphics program
...in paintshoppro that would give you an image with a .pspimage file tag
...using that image you can do all sorts of image enhancements to make your
saved image look better ...then resize it to 300dpi ...if you started at a
much lower screen resolution you might wind up with too small an image at
this point ...once the image is sized/cropped/enhanced just as you'd like to
see it, use your graphics program's feature that optimizes it and saves it
as a jpeg ...use zero compression (even though the jpeg will still have some
inherent image quality loss) and make sure that you use the comparison
feature to ensure minimal visible loss of image quality in the resulting
file.

...now you have a decent sized jpeg at the desired dpi that is the best that
you can present ...hth :)

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


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From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:30 PM
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


Dear List:

A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it to be
300dpi.

What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?

MTIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com

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From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 15 18:19:22 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 19:19:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Deleted response:  Reference sub-subform from subform?
References: <410-22004441523553543@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <001501c42340$22a64e60$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...just go to the archives Chris ...that's what they're for :)

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


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From: "Christopher Hawkins" <clh at christopherhawkins.com>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 7:05 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Deleted response: Reference sub-subform from subform?


> I'm so sorry, but I accidentall deleted the responses I got on my
> issue with how to reference a sub-sub form from within a sub form.
> 
> Can anyone who responded please re-send?  Thanks.
> 
> -Christopher-
> 
> 
> 
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Apr 15 18:55:03 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 16:55:03 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
References: <407FA063.21112.34A470@localhost>
Message-ID: <01de01c42345$12358730$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Stuart:

I just used it to capture and send the jpg but I couldn't see any way to set
the dpi.  Help wasn't.  Do you recall how it's done?

TIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


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From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


> On 15 Apr 2004 at 15:50, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>
> > That's it.  They need 300dpi.  Or close, I suppose, as I can get it.
> >
> > Rocky
> >
>
> It's very easy to set to any value you  want with Irfanview.
>
>
>
>
>
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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Thu Apr 15 19:26:05 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 18:26:05 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] A2K/03/XP:  Make a form "dissolve" into view?
Message-ID: <184670-2200445160265558@christopherhawkins.com>

OK, here's a weird one.

I'm doing fit and polish work on one of my projects.  I thought of
something that might be fun to code, seeing as I'm ahead of schedule.


It would be a nice bit of eye candy to have the splash screen
dissolve or fade into view instead of just popping open as Access/VB
forms tend to do.  In essence, the form would open with 100%
transparency and incrementally decrease transparency until it was a
solid form.  The whole fade (actually, it's the opposite of fade,
what do you call that?) should only take a second or two.  

Has anyone ever done anything like this in Access?  I've seen VB apps
that do this, but never an app I was able to get the source to, so I
don't even know where to start.

-Christopher-






From DaveSharpe2 at cox.net  Thu Apr 15 19:30:43 2004
From: DaveSharpe2 at cox.net (Dave Sharpe)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:30:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
References: <407FA063.21112.34A470@localhost>
	<01de01c42345$12358730$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <007d01c4234a$0dae5f20$dd2f0a44@bcsrkeext6137>

Rocky

I have it, but haven't used it to
do this. You might try the following

While You have the image on screen
Image ->Resize\Resample has a setting
for DPI, try setting before saving.

Dave


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


Stuart:

I just used it to capture and send the jpg but I couldn't see any way to set
the dpi.  Help wasn't.  Do you recall how it's done?

TIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


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From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


> On 15 Apr 2004 at 15:50, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>
> > That's it.  They need 300dpi.  Or close, I suppose, as I can get it.
> >
> > Rocky
> >
>
> It's very easy to set to any value you  want with Irfanview.
>
>
>
>
>
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From lexacorp at global.net.pg  Thu Apr 15 20:29:10 2004
From: lexacorp at global.net.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 11:29:10 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
Message-ID: <407f36e6.1c3.110e9.1392661946@global.net.pg>

>
> Stuart:
>
> I just used it to capture and send the jpg but I couldn't
> see any way to set the dpi.  Help wasn't.  Do you recall
> how it's done?
>

Go to "Image - Resize/Resample" and change the setting in
"Set new size - DPI"

or

Got to  "Image - Information" and set it in that screen.


From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Apr 15 19:22:50 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 17:22:50 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
In-Reply-To: <017f01c42328$86d422d0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIGELGCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Rocky:

There is a little free utility that I use to do a quick screen captures. The
results can be saved or printing and there is a few other features. Check it
out: http://www.geocities.com/~gigaman/

HTH
Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 1:31 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


Dear List:

A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it to be
300dpi.

What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?

MTIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Apr 15 19:22:55 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 17:22:55 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
In-Reply-To: <01de01c42345$12358730$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIKELGCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Rocky:

If you have a graphic program you can always adjust/check the dpi.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:55 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


Stuart:

I just used it to capture and send the jpg but I couldn't see any way to set
the dpi.  Help wasn't.  Do you recall how it's done?

TIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


> On 15 Apr 2004 at 15:50, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>
> > That's it.  They need 300dpi.  Or close, I suppose, as I can get it.
> >
> > Rocky
> >
>
> It's very easy to set to any value you  want with Irfanview.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
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> http://www.lexacorp.com.pg
> Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support.
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Apr 15 19:22:52 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 17:22:52 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Deleted response:  Reference sub-subform from subform?
In-Reply-To: <410-22004441523553543@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIIELGCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Christopher:

Here it is:
http://www.databaseadvisors.com/newletters/newsletter032004/0310ReferenceGui
de/SyntaxForSubs.htm (watch for wrap)

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Christopher
Hawkins
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:06 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Deleted response: Reference sub-subform from subform?


I'm so sorry, but I accidentall deleted the responses I got on my
issue with how to reference a sub-sub form from within a sub form.

Can anyone who responded please re-send?  Thanks.

-Christopher-




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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Apr 15 21:54:20 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 19:54:20 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
References: <407FA063.21112.34A470@localhost>
	<01de01c42345$12358730$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
	<007d01c4234a$0dae5f20$dd2f0a44@bcsrkeext6137>
Message-ID: <023301c4235e$1dc738f0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Dave:

Thanks.  Got it.  Made it 300 dpi and sent it off.  I'll find out if it's
acceptable tomorrow.
It's for a magazine called Tool and Moldmaking - www.tool-moldmaking.com.

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Sharpe" <DaveSharpe2 at cox.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


> Rocky
>
> I have it, but haven't used it to
> do this. You might try the following
>
> While You have the image on screen
> Image ->Resize\Resample has a setting
> for DPI, try setting before saving.
>
> Dave
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 7:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
> Stuart:
>
> I just used it to capture and send the jpg but I couldn't see any way to
set
> the dpi.  Help wasn't.  Do you recall how it's done?
>
> TIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 3:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
> > On 15 Apr 2004 at 15:50, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
> >
> > > That's it.  They need 300dpi.  Or close, I suppose, as I can get it.
> > >
> > > Rocky
> > >
> >
> > It's very easy to set to any value you  want with Irfanview.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- 
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> > http://www.lexacorp.com.pg
> > Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support.
> >
> >
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Apr 15 21:54:48 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 19:54:48 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
References: <407f36e6.1c3.110e9.1392661946@global.net.pg>
Message-ID: <023b01c4235e$2eac2c70$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Done.  And done.

Thank you.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stuart McLachlan" <lexacorp at global.net.pg>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


> >
> > Stuart:
> >
> > I just used it to capture and send the jpg but I couldn't
> > see any way to set the dpi.  Help wasn't.  Do you recall
> > how it's done?
> >
>
> Go to "Image - Resize/Resample" and change the setting in
> "Set new size - DPI"
>
> or
>
> Got to  "Image - Information" and set it in that screen.
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From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 15 22:41:07 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 23:41:07 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K/03/XP:  Make a form "dissolve" into view?
References: <184670-2200445160265558@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <001501c42364$a6c979a0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

Chris
...I use a some animated forms to make users pay attention but I've never
faded one in or out.
...however, I do have in my code library some code that was posted here
about three years ago that supposedly came from MS ...I've never got around
to trying it but I'll repost it below and maybe it will give you what you
need:
__________________________________________________________

This type simple adjusts the colour slowly while reducing the form's width
and height down to 0 before unloading the form. This is all done through a
for-next loop. (form should be set to auto-center.)

The preferred method is to adjust the current forms transparency from solid
to invisible before unloading the same. Here is a copy of the code from MS
technical help.

'In a module...
Option Explicit

Private Declare Function GetWindowLong Lib "user32" Alias _
   "GetWindowLongA" (ByVal hwnd As Long, ByVal nIndex As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function SetWindowLong Lib "user32" Alias _
   "SetWindowLongA" (ByVal hwnd As Long, ByVal nIndex As Long, _
   ByVal dwNewLong As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function SetLayeredWindowAttributes Lib "user32" _
   (ByVal hwnd As Long, ByVal crey As Byte, ByVal bAlpha As Byte, _
   ByVal dwFlags As Long) As Long

private Const GWL_EXSTYLE = (-20)
Private Const WS_EX_LAYERED = &H80000
Private Const WS_EX_TRANSPARENT = &H20&
Private Const LWA_ALPHA = &H2&

public sub Transparentcy(bTrans as byte, frmWhatever as form)
  Dim lOldStyle As Long

  with frmWhatever
    lOldStyle = GetWindowLong(.hwnd, GWL_EXSTYLE)
    SetWindowLong .hwnd, GWL_EXSTYLE, lOldStyle Or WS_EX_LAYERED
    SetLayeredWindowAttributes .hwnd, 0, bTrans, LWA_ALPHA
  end with

end sub

'In your form... something like this. (haven't tested.)
Private Sub Form_UnLoad()
 dim i as byte

 for i = 255 to 1 step -5
  Transparentcy i, me
 next

End Sub

The above code work great but you have to have the latest copy of the
User32.dll. Greater than 4.0
_________________________________________________________

...hth ...and if you do make it work, I'd certainly like to see a sample mdb
posted.

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christopher Hawkins" <clh at christopherhawkins.com>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 8:26 PM
Subject: [AccessD] A2K/03/XP: Make a form "dissolve" into view?


> OK, here's a weird one.
>
> I'm doing fit and polish work on one of my projects.  I thought of
> something that might be fun to code, seeing as I'm ahead of schedule.
>
>
> It would be a nice bit of eye candy to have the splash screen
> dissolve or fade into view instead of just popping open as Access/VB
> forms tend to do.  In essence, the form would open with 100%
> transparency and incrementally decrease transparency until it was a
> solid form.  The whole fade (actually, it's the opposite of fade,
> what do you call that?) should only take a second or two.
>
> Has anyone ever done anything like this in Access?  I've seen VB apps
> that do this, but never an app I was able to get the source to, so I
> don't even know where to start.
>
> -Christopher-
>
>
>
>
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Apr 15 22:44:35 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:44:35 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Using TransferDatabase to link table from password
	protectd db
References: <OFEAD4A8D1.CB964D3A-ON86256E77.006DCA7F-86256E77.006E2BCB@us.bank-dns.com>
Message-ID: <407F56A3.7050805@shaw.ca>

There is no direct way to do this. I have heard of someone doing it this 
way via ODBC

DoCmd.TransferDatabase acLink, "ODBC Database", "ODBC;DSN=" & odbcname1 
& ";UID=" & user
& ";PWD=" & pass, acTable, "MyTable", "MyTable"

Or you can try it this way

 Public Function ImportDb(strPath As String) As Boolean
 Dim db As Database 'Database to import
 Dim td As TableDef 'Tabledefs in db
Dim strTDef As String 'Name of table to import

 'Open database which contains objects to import.
    Set db = DBEngine.Workspaces(0).OpenDatabase(strPath, False, False, 
"MS Access;PWD=<Your  password>")
  'Import tables from specified Access database.
    For Each td In db.TableDefs
    strTDef = td.Name
  If Left(strTDef, 4) <> "MSys" Then
   DoCmd.TransferDatabase acImport, "Microsoft Access", strPath, 
acTable, strTDef, strTDef, False
  End If
  Next

End Function

jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com wrote:

>I have the following code in a database.  Works fine if there is no
>password on the database.  However I need to add a password to the database
>the is being linked to.  How can I modify the code so that it accepts a
>password and does not prompt the user for one?
>
>
>Sub linkdatatable(mytable As String)
>
>    'Link in tables for query
>    If IsLinked(mytable) = False Then
>        DoCmd.TransferDatabase acLink, "Microsoft Access", GetDataFile,
>acTable, mytable, mytable, False
>    End If
>End Sub
>
>
>TIA
>
>
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Apr 15 23:18:43 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 21:18:43 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Dr Watson Errors on Broadband connection
References: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF407AD81CA@xlivmbx12.aig.com>
Message-ID: <407F5EA3.9020702@shaw.ca>

Heenan, Lambert wrote:

>X-Posted to Access-L and Access-D
>
>I have an Access97 database, split FE/BE. The BE resides on a network drive,
>and the FE is on the user's local C drive and it is an MDE file that
>references a library MDE that is also on the network. All references use the
>full UNC path to the files, not mapped drives.
>
>I have a user who has no trouble when he's in the office docked and
>connected to the LAN. The database also works fine when he's at a remote
>location that has a dedicated T1 line into our LAN.
>
>However, when he tries to access the database, using the exact same
>computer, but connected to the LAN via his cable modem and our VPN s/w he
>finds that Access crashes, giving a Dr. Watson error before any sign of the
>application appears on screen. 
>
>It's one of those "Exception access violation (0xc0000005), Address
>0c651503f7" type Dr. Watsons that one typically sees if an MDE application
>tries to reference an MDE library that has been modified and recompiled. If
>you don't recompile the client MDE you get this type of Dr. Watson.
>
>The only trouble is the library has not been recompiled recently.
>
>Any ideas any one????
>
>Lambert 
>  
>

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Canada





From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Fri Apr 16 05:13:44 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 10:13:44 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] VxD errors (Cross-posted to dba and dba-Tech)
Message-ID: <20040416091342.661F924C821@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Can anyone recommend a good tool for solving a VxD error on W98, preferably
free? It's happening on a couple of laptops as they close down - goes to
Windows splash, waits a couple of seconds then blue screen with a VxD error.
Any suggestions welcome. There are a number of debugging tools which come up
on the net when searching on this subject, but I'd like a recommendation.

I've cross-posted to dba and dba-tech to pick up as many suggestions as
possible, but it'd be good if you could reply either to dba-Tech or direct
to me, as I'm conscious it's not an Access issue.

Thanks.

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr 16 05:01:38 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 12:01:38 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
In-Reply-To: <000a01c4233f$f2bc6040$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
References: <017f01c42328$86d422d0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
	<000a01c4233f$f2bc6040$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
Message-ID: <5510887966.20040416120138@cactus.dk>

Hi Rocky

For the records - as you have sent your picture - William and I can
agree on this. Jpeg is not a first format except for "party photos",
and it is awful for screenshots where crisp straight lines and right
angles are distinct elements. 

Bitmap is fine but - if you can do with 256 colours - GIF is ideal for
screenshots with large areas of plain colours as this format is
compressed without loss of image quality.

Downgrading the picture should be left for him/her preparing the image
for the magazine.

If a jpeg is mandatory, note that most image programs can convert to
jpg with zero loss at the cost of a much larger file size.

/gustav


> ...don't use any program that initially captures your screen as a jpeg ...I
> won't go into the details here but when you save an image as a jpeg you are
> using a lossy algorithm that throws away portions of the graphic ...its the
> nature of the beast ...



From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr 16 04:41:37 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 11:41:37 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox contents
In-Reply-To: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C138357@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
References: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C138357@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
Message-ID: <1339687169.20040416114137@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

> I have a list box with over 130 items all rows are distinct but a few columns are duplicates.  The ListBox is sorted on two text fields which puts the ID number out of sequence.  The ComboBox sorts
> and "Groups By" duplicate columns.  What I want to do is use the ComboBox to jump to the first instance of one of the duplicate columns.

> e.g.

> ID      CourseName      City
> 135     CCP             EC
> 90      DIS             EC
> 87      DIS             MP
> 18      DOC             CD
> 17      DOC             SR
> 55      DSC M           AL
> 57      DSC M           EC
> 43      DSC M           MP
> 28      DSC M           SF
> 3       DSC M           SR

> What I want is:
> 135     CCP             EC
> 90      DIS             EC
> 18      DOC             CD
> 55      DSC M           AL
> 3       DSC M           SR

> What I get is:
> 135     CCP             EC
> 87      DIS             MP
> 17      DOC             SR
> 3       DSC M           SR

> What needs to be done to what the desired results?

As Drew notes, you'll have to pick the sorted values for ID and City
for each CourseName.
Two subqueries can be used for this:

<SQL>

  SELECT
    (SELECT
        TOP 1 ID
      FROM
        tblCourses AS aliC
      WHERE
        aliC.CourseName = tblCourses.CourseName
      ORDER BY
        City,
        ID DESC;) AS TopID,
    CourseName,
    (SELECT
        TOP 1 City
      FROM
        tblCourses AS aliC
      WHERE
        aliC.CourseName = tblCourses.CourseName
      ORDER BY
        City,
        ID DESC;) AS TopCity
  FROM
    tblCourses
  GROUP BY
    CourseName;

</SQL>

Have fun!

/gustav



From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Fri Apr 16 06:34:06 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 11:34:06 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] VxD errors (Cross-posted to dba and dba-Tech)
Message-ID: <20040416103404.0C3B7251ADE@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Sorry. Duff info. It's a W2000 machine.
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To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>,
@smtp.nildram.co.uk <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] VxD errors (Cross-posted to dba and dba-Tech)
Date: 16/04/04 09:20

>
> Can anyone recommend a good tool for solving a VxD error on W98,
preferably
> free? It's happening on a couple of laptops as they close down - goes to
> Windows splash, waits a couple of seconds then blue screen with a VxD
error.
> Any suggestions welcome. There are a number of debugging tools which come
up
> on the net when searching on this subject, but I'd like a recommendation.
>
> I've cross-posted to dba and dba-tech to pick up as many suggestions as
> possible, but it'd be good if you could reply either to dba-Tech or direct
> to me, as I'm conscious it's not an Access issue.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>
>
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Fri Apr 16 07:36:12 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 12:36:12 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] VxD errors (Cross-posted to dba and dba-Tech)
Message-ID: <20040416113610.40CF124E530@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

B******s. Am being given runaround here. It IS a W98 machine after all.
Sorreeeee.

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To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>,
@smtp.nildram.co.uk <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] VxD errors (Cross-posted to dba and dba-Tech)
Date: 16/04/04 09:20

>
> Can anyone recommend a good tool for solving a VxD error on W98,
preferably
> free? It's happening on a couple of laptops as they close down - goes to
> Windows splash, waits a couple of seconds then blue screen with a VxD
error.
> Any suggestions welcome. There are a number of debugging tools which come
up
> on the net when searching on this subject, but I'd like a recommendation.
>
> I've cross-posted to dba and dba-tech to pick up as many suggestions as
> possible, but it'd be good if you could reply either to dba-Tech or direct
> to me, as I'm conscious it's not an Access issue.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>
>
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From JHewson at karta.com  Fri Apr 16 07:12:16 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 07:12:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox contents
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C138359@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

Thanks, Drew and Gustav for responding.
I tried Max, but sometimes the ID I need is in the middle of the IDs.
I didn't think about using Top, I'll try that.

thanks again.
Jim 



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 4:42 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox
contents


Hi Jim

> I have a list box with over 130 items all rows are distinct but a few columns are duplicates.  The ListBox is sorted on two text fields which puts the ID number out of sequence.  The ComboBox sorts
> and "Groups By" duplicate columns.  What I want to do is use the ComboBox to jump to the first instance of one of the duplicate columns.

> e.g.

> ID      CourseName      City
> 135     CCP             EC
> 90      DIS             EC
> 87      DIS             MP
> 18      DOC             CD
> 17      DOC             SR
> 55      DSC M           AL
> 57      DSC M           EC
> 43      DSC M           MP
> 28      DSC M           SF
> 3       DSC M           SR

> What I want is:
> 135     CCP             EC
> 90      DIS             EC
> 18      DOC             CD
> 55      DSC M           AL
> 3       DSC M           SR

> What I get is:
> 135     CCP             EC
> 87      DIS             MP
> 17      DOC             SR
> 3       DSC M           SR

> What needs to be done to what the desired results?

As Drew notes, you'll have to pick the sorted values for ID and City
for each CourseName.
Two subqueries can be used for this:

<SQL>

  SELECT
    (SELECT
        TOP 1 ID
      FROM
        tblCourses AS aliC
      WHERE
        aliC.CourseName = tblCourses.CourseName
      ORDER BY
        City,
        ID DESC;) AS TopID,
    CourseName,
    (SELECT
        TOP 1 City
      FROM
        tblCourses AS aliC
      WHERE
        aliC.CourseName = tblCourses.CourseName
      ORDER BY
        City,
        ID DESC;) AS TopCity
  FROM
    tblCourses
  GROUP BY
    CourseName;

</SQL>

Have fun!

/gustav

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Apr 16 10:23:07 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 08:23:07 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
References: <017f01c42328$86d422d0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
	<000a01c4233f$f2bc6040$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
Message-ID: <00da01c423c6$b84ac0a0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

You should make this into an article.

Thanks to everyone who helped.  I eventually used Irfanview which looks like
a very complete program.  Just got a note from the publisher - the jpg is
fine.  Of course, in the magazine it's going to be probably no bigger than
2" x 2"

Regards,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


> ...don't use any program that initially captures your screen as a jpeg
...I
> won't go into the details here but when you save an image as a jpeg you
are
> using a lossy algorithm that throws away portions of the graphic ...its
the
> nature of the beast ...in order to give them the high quality jpeg they
> need, start with a decent graphics program that lets you capture the image
> in a high quality, uncompressed format to begin with ...Photoshop and
> paintshoppro are the mainstream programs ...I personally use paintshoppro
> (www.jasc.com) ...set your screen resolution to the highest resolution
your
> graphics card can support and make sure your image capture area is clean
and
> clear at that resolution ...capture the image and save it into un
> uncompressed format, preferably the native format of your graphics program
> ...in paintshoppro that would give you an image with a .pspimage file tag
> ...using that image you can do all sorts of image enhancements to make
your
> saved image look better ...then resize it to 300dpi ...if you started at a
> much lower screen resolution you might wind up with too small an image at
> this point ...once the image is sized/cropped/enhanced just as you'd like
to
> see it, use your graphics program's feature that optimizes it and saves it
> as a jpeg ...use zero compression (even though the jpeg will still have
some
> inherent image quality loss) and make sure that you use the comparison
> feature to ensure minimal visible loss of image quality in the resulting
> file.
>
> ...now you have a decent sized jpeg at the desired dpi that is the best
that
> you can present ...hth :)
>
> William Hindman
> "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
> a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:30 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it to
be
> 300dpi.
>
> What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
> -- 
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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Fri Apr 16 11:42:02 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 11:42:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
Message-ID: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE517@TAPPEEXCH01>

By far, the absolute best format for screenshots is PNG.  Near-infinite
color range (handles 32-bit palettes with ease), lossless compression, and
tiny file size.

Unfortunately, it is open-source based so it hasn't made it to the
mainstream like other more popular formats (GIF, JPG).

I wrote a global error handler that automatically grabs a full screen shot
of the users' workstation upon app failure and stores it as a PNG on the
network.  Files range between 8KB and 25KB!


-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:23 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot

You should make this into an article.

Thanks to everyone who helped.  I eventually used Irfanview which looks like
a very complete program.  Just got a note from the publisher - the jpg is
fine.  Of course, in the magazine it's going to be probably no bigger than
2" x 2"

Regards,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


> ...don't use any program that initially captures your screen as a jpeg
...I
> won't go into the details here but when you save an image as a jpeg you
are
> using a lossy algorithm that throws away portions of the graphic ...its
the
> nature of the beast ...in order to give them the high quality jpeg they
> need, start with a decent graphics program that lets you capture the image
> in a high quality, uncompressed format to begin with ...Photoshop and
> paintshoppro are the mainstream programs ...I personally use paintshoppro
> (www.jasc.com) ...set your screen resolution to the highest resolution
your
> graphics card can support and make sure your image capture area is clean
and
> clear at that resolution ...capture the image and save it into un
> uncompressed format, preferably the native format of your graphics program
> ...in paintshoppro that would give you an image with a .pspimage file tag
> ...using that image you can do all sorts of image enhancements to make
your
> saved image look better ...then resize it to 300dpi ...if you started at a
> much lower screen resolution you might wind up with too small an image at
> this point ...once the image is sized/cropped/enhanced just as you'd like
to
> see it, use your graphics program's feature that optimizes it and saves it
> as a jpeg ...use zero compression (even though the jpeg will still have
some
> inherent image quality loss) and make sure that you use the comparison
> feature to ensure minimal visible loss of image quality in the resulting
> file.
>
> ...now you have a decent sized jpeg at the desired dpi that is the best
that
> you can present ...hth :)
>
> William Hindman
> "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
> a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:30 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it to
be
> 300dpi.
>
> What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>

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From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Fri Apr 16 11:47:48 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 12:47:48 -0400
Subject: Error Handler was (RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot)
Message-ID: <20040416164744.WAWY29662.tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net@mxmta.bellnexxia.net>

> From: Brett Barabash <BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com>

> I wrote a global error handler that automatically grabs a full screen shot
> of the users' workstation upon app failure and stores it as a PNG on the
> network.  Files range between 8KB and 25KB!

Would yuou mind sharing?? Please???

Don't make me beg. It's not pretty :)

--
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Unfortunately common sense isn't so common!



From Subscriptions at servicexp.com  Fri Apr 16 11:51:42 2004
From: Subscriptions at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 12:51:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
In-Reply-To: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE517@TAPPEEXCH01>
Message-ID: <GPEGJHKJCEPGJIEIOEOOMEEBDLAA.Subscriptions@servicexp.com>


 Me too, Me too. Pleaaaaase.... :-)

Robert Gracie
www.servicexp.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 12:42 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


By far, the absolute best format for screenshots is PNG.  Near-infinite
color range (handles 32-bit palettes with ease), lossless compression, and
tiny file size.

Unfortunately, it is open-source based so it hasn't made it to the
mainstream like other more popular formats (GIF, JPG).

I wrote a global error handler that automatically grabs a full screen shot
of the users' workstation upon app failure and stores it as a PNG on the
network.  Files range between 8KB and 25KB!


-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:23 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot

You should make this into an article.

Thanks to everyone who helped.  I eventually used Irfanview which looks like
a very complete program.  Just got a note from the publisher - the jpg is
fine.  Of course, in the magazine it's going to be probably no bigger than
2" x 2"

Regards,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


> ...don't use any program that initially captures your screen as a jpeg
...I
> won't go into the details here but when you save an image as a jpeg you
are
> using a lossy algorithm that throws away portions of the graphic ...its
the
> nature of the beast ...in order to give them the high quality jpeg they
> need, start with a decent graphics program that lets you capture the image
> in a high quality, uncompressed format to begin with ...Photoshop and
> paintshoppro are the mainstream programs ...I personally use paintshoppro
> (www.jasc.com) ...set your screen resolution to the highest resolution
your
> graphics card can support and make sure your image capture area is clean
and
> clear at that resolution ...capture the image and save it into un
> uncompressed format, preferably the native format of your graphics program
> ...in paintshoppro that would give you an image with a .pspimage file tag
> ...using that image you can do all sorts of image enhancements to make
your
> saved image look better ...then resize it to 300dpi ...if you started at a
> much lower screen resolution you might wind up with too small an image at
> this point ...once the image is sized/cropped/enhanced just as you'd like
to
> see it, use your graphics program's feature that optimizes it and saves it
> as a jpeg ...use zero compression (even though the jpeg will still have
some
> inherent image quality loss) and make sure that you use the comparison
> feature to ensure minimal visible loss of image quality in the resulting
> file.
>
> ...now you have a decent sized jpeg at the desired dpi that is the best
that
> you can present ...hth :)
>
> William Hindman
> "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
> a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:30 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it to
be
> 300dpi.
>
> What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>

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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Fri Apr 16 11:55:28 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 11:55:28 -0500
Subject: Error Handler was (RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot)
Message-ID: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE518@TAPPEEXCH01>

The screenshot portion is fairly simple.  I use the Windows BitBlt API to
copy the screen contents to a memory heap.

The PNG portion is a little trickier.  I purchased the ImgSource dll from
Smaller Animals software (www.smalleranimals.com), which outputs to PNG (as
well as a large host of other formats).

As far as the global error handling goes, I created a global Sub called
ErrorHandler that is stored in a mda file referenced by all of my projects.
I use an add-in similar to John's to add the On Error lines to all of my
routines.

I'll see what I can dig up and share...
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Carbonnell [mailto:carbonnb at sympatico.ca]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 11:48 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Error Handler was (RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot)

> From: Brett Barabash <BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com>

> I wrote a global error handler that automatically grabs a full screen shot
> of the users' workstation upon app failure and stores it as a PNG on the
> network.  Files range between 8KB and 25KB!

Would yuou mind sharing?? Please???

Don't make me beg. It's not pretty :)

--
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Unfortunately common sense isn't so common!

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From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr 16 12:30:52 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 13:30:52 -0400
Subject: Error Handler was (RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot)
References: <20040416164744.WAWY29662.tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net@mxmta.bellnexxia.net>
Message-ID: <00b801c423d8$90ef0c70$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...I'll beg if that's what it takes ...never even thought of doing something
like that ...what a truly great idea!

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at sympatico.ca>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 12:47 PM
Subject: Error Handler was (RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot)


> > From: Brett Barabash <BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com>
>
> > I wrote a global error handler that automatically grabs a full screen
shot
> > of the users' workstation upon app failure and stores it as a PNG on the
> > network.  Files range between 8KB and 25KB!
>
> Would yuou mind sharing?? Please???
>
> Don't make me beg. It's not pretty :)
>
> --
> Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
> Unfortunately common sense isn't so common!
>
> -- 
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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Fri Apr 16 13:00:46 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 12:00:46 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Still having a subform problem...
Message-ID: <251230-22004451618046164@christopherhawkins.com>

..although I looked at this page:

http://www.databaseadvisors.com/newletters/newsletter032004/0310Refere
nceGuide/SyntaxForSubs.htm

The syntax just isn't working.  So, to restate the problem:

The Overview:

frmMain, which has a subform control named sFrm. sFrm's SourceObject
= "frmSearch"

frmSearch, which has a button named cmdSearch and a subform control
named sFrmResults. sFrmResults' SourceObject = "frmResults".

frmResults, which has a bunch of fields like FirstName, LastName,
etc. Typical customer database stuff. frmResults displays as a
datasheet.

The Problem:

In the code behind cmdSearch, there is a line that tries to re-order
the columns in the datasheet contained in sFrmResults. That code
looks like this:

[sFrmResults].Form(sSearchField).ColumnOrder = 1

That line of code tries to execute but instead yields this error:

Method 'Form' of object '_Subform' failed.

Now, this is also totally vanilla, but for some reason it just won't
work. I tried pulling frmSearch out of frmMain so that the search
form was it's own form instead of being a subform, and this line
worked just fine then. Unfortunately, my client will not accep that
change as a solution; frmSearch must remain a subform. 

But that line just does not work when frmSearch is a subform.

-C-






From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca  Fri Apr 16 13:25:05 2004
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 14:25:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Still having a subform problem...
Message-ID: <s07fecd9.058@cbc.ca>

Since the command button and the sub form are on the same subform, try

Me.Form(sSearchField).ColumnOrder = 1

Bryan Carbonnell
bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca

>>> clh at christopherhawkins.com 16-Apr-04 2:00:46 PM >>>
..although I looked at this page:

http://www.databaseadvisors.com/newletters/newsletter032004/0310Refere

nceGuide/SyntaxForSubs.htm

The syntax just isn't working.  So, to restate the problem:

The Overview:

frmMain, which has a subform control named sFrm. sFrm's SourceObject
= "frmSearch"

frmSearch, which has a button named cmdSearch and a subform control
named sFrmResults. sFrmResults' SourceObject = "frmResults".

frmResults, which has a bunch of fields like FirstName, LastName,
etc. Typical customer database stuff. frmResults displays as a
datasheet.

The Problem:

In the code behind cmdSearch, there is a line that tries to re-order
the columns in the datasheet contained in sFrmResults. That code
looks like this:

[sFrmResults].Form(sSearchField).ColumnOrder = 1

That line of code tries to execute but instead yields this error:

Method 'Form' of object '_Subform' failed.

Now, this is also totally vanilla, but for some reason it just won't
work. I tried pulling frmSearch out of frmMain so that the search
form was it's own form instead of being a subform, and this line
worked just fine then. Unfortunately, my client will not accep that
change as a solution; frmSearch must remain a subform. 

But that line just does not work when frmSearch is a subform.



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Apr 16 13:27:35 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 11:27:35 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
References: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE517@TAPPEEXCH01>
Message-ID: <017801c423e0$7d616d80$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Brett:

Would it be a problem if you wanted to send a file to someone?  Is PNG
format supported by Windows or any of the popular viewers?

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


> By far, the absolute best format for screenshots is PNG.  Near-infinite
> color range (handles 32-bit palettes with ease), lossless compression, and
> tiny file size.
>
> Unfortunately, it is open-source based so it hasn't made it to the
> mainstream like other more popular formats (GIF, JPG).
>
> I wrote a global error handler that automatically grabs a full screen shot
> of the users' workstation upon app failure and stores it as a PNG on the
> network.  Files range between 8KB and 25KB!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:23 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
> You should make this into an article.
>
> Thanks to everyone who helped.  I eventually used Irfanview which looks
like
> a very complete program.  Just got a note from the publisher - the jpg is
> fine.  Of course, in the magazine it's going to be probably no bigger than
> 2" x 2"
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
> > ...don't use any program that initially captures your screen as a jpeg
> ...I
> > won't go into the details here but when you save an image as a jpeg you
> are
> > using a lossy algorithm that throws away portions of the graphic ...its
> the
> > nature of the beast ...in order to give them the high quality jpeg they
> > need, start with a decent graphics program that lets you capture the
image
> > in a high quality, uncompressed format to begin with ...Photoshop and
> > paintshoppro are the mainstream programs ...I personally use
paintshoppro
> > (www.jasc.com) ...set your screen resolution to the highest resolution
> your
> > graphics card can support and make sure your image capture area is clean
> and
> > clear at that resolution ...capture the image and save it into un
> > uncompressed format, preferably the native format of your graphics
program
> > ...in paintshoppro that would give you an image with a .pspimage file
tag
> > ...using that image you can do all sorts of image enhancements to make
> your
> > saved image look better ...then resize it to 300dpi ...if you started at
a
> > much lower screen resolution you might wind up with too small an image
at
> > this point ...once the image is sized/cropped/enhanced just as you'd
like
> to
> > see it, use your graphics program's feature that optimizes it and saves
it
> > as a jpeg ...use zero compression (even though the jpeg will still have
> some
> > inherent image quality loss) and make sure that you use the comparison
> > feature to ensure minimal visible loss of image quality in the resulting
> > file.
> >
> > ...now you have a decent sized jpeg at the desired dpi that is the best
> that
> > you can present ...hth :)
> >
> > William Hindman
> > "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
> > a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> > To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:30 PM
> > Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
> >
> >
> > Dear List:
> >
> > A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it
to
> be
> > 300dpi.
> >
> > What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?
> >
> > MTIA,
> >
> > Rocky Smolin
> > Beach Access Software
> > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> >
>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr 16 13:30:15 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 20:30:15 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Still having a subform problem...
In-Reply-To: <251230-22004451618046164@christopherhawkins.com>
References: <251230-22004451618046164@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <2741404406.20040416203015@cactus.dk>

Hi Christopher

> frmMain, which has a subform control named sFrm. sFrm's SourceObject
> = "frmSearch"

> frmSearch, which has a button named cmdSearch and a subform control
> named sFrmResults. sFrmResults' SourceObject = "frmResults".

> frmResults, which has a bunch of fields like FirstName, LastName,
> etc. Typical customer database stuff. frmResults displays as a
> datasheet.

> The Problem:

> In the code behind cmdSearch, there is a line that tries to re-order
> the columns in the datasheet contained in sFrmResults. That code
> looks like this:

> [sFrmResults].Form(sSearchField).ColumnOrder = 1

How about

  Me!sFrmResults.Form!sSearchField.ColumnOrder = 1

/gustav



From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Fri Apr 16 13:34:07 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 13:34:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
Message-ID: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE519@TAPPEEXCH01>

Most Windows programs support PNG (Adobe Photoshop, Microsoft Photo Editor,
Internet Explorer, Irfanview, etc).  It just hasn't made it to the industry
standard realm the same way as other formats have.  (Magazines asking for
JPG files instead of PNGs for screenshots, for example).

I think you'd be hard pressed to find a current graphics file viewer that
doesn't support it.


-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot

Brett:

Would it be a problem if you wanted to send a file to someone?  Is PNG
format supported by Windows or any of the popular viewers?

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


> By far, the absolute best format for screenshots is PNG.  Near-infinite
> color range (handles 32-bit palettes with ease), lossless compression, and
> tiny file size.
>
> Unfortunately, it is open-source based so it hasn't made it to the
> mainstream like other more popular formats (GIF, JPG).
>
> I wrote a global error handler that automatically grabs a full screen shot
> of the users' workstation upon app failure and stores it as a PNG on the
> network.  Files range between 8KB and 25KB!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:23 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
> You should make this into an article.
>
> Thanks to everyone who helped.  I eventually used Irfanview which looks
like
> a very complete program.  Just got a note from the publisher - the jpg is
> fine.  Of course, in the magazine it's going to be probably no bigger than
> 2" x 2"
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
> > ...don't use any program that initially captures your screen as a jpeg
> ...I
> > won't go into the details here but when you save an image as a jpeg you
> are
> > using a lossy algorithm that throws away portions of the graphic ...its
> the
> > nature of the beast ...in order to give them the high quality jpeg they
> > need, start with a decent graphics program that lets you capture the
image
> > in a high quality, uncompressed format to begin with ...Photoshop and
> > paintshoppro are the mainstream programs ...I personally use
paintshoppro
> > (www.jasc.com) ...set your screen resolution to the highest resolution
> your
> > graphics card can support and make sure your image capture area is clean
> and
> > clear at that resolution ...capture the image and save it into un
> > uncompressed format, preferably the native format of your graphics
program
> > ...in paintshoppro that would give you an image with a .pspimage file
tag
> > ...using that image you can do all sorts of image enhancements to make
> your
> > saved image look better ...then resize it to 300dpi ...if you started at
a
> > much lower screen resolution you might wind up with too small an image
at
> > this point ...once the image is sized/cropped/enhanced just as you'd
like
> to
> > see it, use your graphics program's feature that optimizes it and saves
it
> > as a jpeg ...use zero compression (even though the jpeg will still have
> some
> > inherent image quality loss) and make sure that you use the comparison
> > feature to ensure minimal visible loss of image quality in the resulting
> > file.
> >
> > ...now you have a decent sized jpeg at the desired dpi that is the best
> that
> > you can present ...hth :)
> >
> > William Hindman
> > "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
> > a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> > To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:30 PM
> > Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
> >
> >
> > Dear List:
> >
> > A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it
to
> be
> > 300dpi.
> >
> > What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?
> >
> > MTIA,
> >
> > Rocky Smolin
> > Beach Access Software
> > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> >
>
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From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca  Fri Apr 16 13:39:16 2004
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 14:39:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
Message-ID: <s07ff020.031@cbc.ca>

I'm not Brett, but that's never stopped me before :-)

IE 5+ will allow you to open PNG. Most major image editing and viewing
software also support PNGs. As does the Microsoft Photo Editor that is
shipped with Win2K.

So it's fairly widely supported in the modern OSes and applications.

Bryan Carbonnell
bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca

>>> bchacc at san.rr.com 16-Apr-04 2:27:35 PM >>>
Brett:

Would it be a problem if you wanted to send a file to someone?  Is PNG
format supported by Windows or any of the popular viewers?

Rocky




From john at winhaven.net  Fri Apr 16 14:22:52 2004
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 14:22:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
In-Reply-To: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE519@TAPPEEXCH01>
Message-ID: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKIEEAAFGAA.john@winhaven.net>

Probably the biggest drawback to .png is that there was already a widely
established web of .gif and .jpg images. I believe that is the major cause
of the non-acceptance of it. Plus file size still rules for WebPages and
.png rarely (if ever) makes for a smaller file than jpg or gif. Adobe has
great little utility for optimizes images for the web that lets you compare
formats and parameters. I've never had .png come as best of the lot.

And although it isn't the lossy compression algorithm that jpg is it also
has to compete with other more established "large file" formats such as tif,
bmp, etc. The GIS industry has gone through mage formats by the dozens
because of their heavy reliance on aerial photography. My first exposure and
unhappiness with jpg - every time a .jpg file is edited and saved its "lossy
algorithm" loses more.

Also .png doesn't do everything it was set out to accomplish in the
beginning - which was basically to replace the .gif with an open source
public domain format. (IIRC .gif is proprietary but was not protected well
enough by its owner for too long so the courts wouldn't accept their lawsuit
claims.)

One more reason is that Microsoft was rather late in adapting their products
to use it. I used to try using .png just because it was open source and had
problems with PowerPoint, Word, etc. I know that limitation is somewhat
history but it was an issue that stymied it.

I wish people would start using it rather than .jpg!

John

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:34 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


Most Windows programs support PNG (Adobe Photoshop, Microsoft Photo Editor,
Internet Explorer, Irfanview, etc).  It just hasn't made it to the industry
standard realm the same way as other formats have.  (Magazines asking for
JPG files instead of PNGs for screenshots, for example).

I think you'd be hard pressed to find a current graphics file viewer that
doesn't support it.


-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot

Brett:

Would it be a problem if you wanted to send a file to someone?  Is PNG
format supported by Windows or any of the popular viewers?

Rocky

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


> By far, the absolute best format for screenshots is PNG.  Near-infinite
> color range (handles 32-bit palettes with ease), lossless compression, and
> tiny file size.
>
> Unfortunately, it is open-source based so it hasn't made it to the
> mainstream like other more popular formats (GIF, JPG).
>
> I wrote a global error handler that automatically grabs a full screen shot
> of the users' workstation upon app failure and stores it as a PNG on the
> network.  Files range between 8KB and 25KB!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:23 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
> You should make this into an article.
>
> Thanks to everyone who helped.  I eventually used Irfanview which looks
like
> a very complete program.  Just got a note from the publisher - the jpg is
> fine.  Of course, in the magazine it's going to be probably no bigger than
> 2" x 2"
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
> > ...don't use any program that initially captures your screen as a jpeg
> ...I
> > won't go into the details here but when you save an image as a jpeg you
> are
> > using a lossy algorithm that throws away portions of the graphic ...its
> the
> > nature of the beast ...in order to give them the high quality jpeg they
> > need, start with a decent graphics program that lets you capture the
image
> > in a high quality, uncompressed format to begin with ...Photoshop and
> > paintshoppro are the mainstream programs ...I personally use
paintshoppro
> > (www.jasc.com) ...set your screen resolution to the highest resolution
> your
> > graphics card can support and make sure your image capture area is clean
> and
> > clear at that resolution ...capture the image and save it into un
> > uncompressed format, preferably the native format of your graphics
program
> > ...in paintshoppro that would give you an image with a .pspimage file
tag
> > ...using that image you can do all sorts of image enhancements to make
> your
> > saved image look better ...then resize it to 300dpi ...if you started at
a
> > much lower screen resolution you might wind up with too small an image
at
> > this point ...once the image is sized/cropped/enhanced just as you'd
like
> to
> > see it, use your graphics program's feature that optimizes it and saves
it
> > as a jpeg ...use zero compression (even though the jpeg will still have
> some
> > inherent image quality loss) and make sure that you use the comparison
> > feature to ensure minimal visible loss of image quality in the resulting
> > file.
> >
> > ...now you have a decent sized jpeg at the desired dpi that is the best
> that
> > you can present ...hth :)
> >
> > William Hindman
> > "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
> > a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> > To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:30 PM
> > Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
> >
> >
> > Dear List:
> >
> > A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it
to
> be
> > 300dpi.
> >
> > What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?
> >
> > MTIA,
> >
> > Rocky Smolin
> > Beach Access Software
> > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> >
>
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From greggs at msn.com  Fri Apr 16 15:41:28 2004
From: greggs at msn.com (Gregg)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 15:41:28 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Dr Watson Errors on Broadband connection
In-Reply-To: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF407AD81CA@xlivmbx12.aig.com>
Message-ID: <MOELIKDOANGCHBBIGOLIGEADECAA.greggs@msn.com>

I have an app with the same problem... with the same no solution.  We're
running Citrix on NT4 and SQl be.  I am using a mapped drive to link to
access and SQL tables.  My Doctor shows up 1 out of 5 times when relinking
but does seem to be worst on some connections than others. I'm wondering if
it is NT4... what are you running?

Gregg Steinbrenner

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:12 PM
To: ACCESS-L Email (E-mail)
Cc: Access-D Email (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Dr Watson Errors on Broadband connection


X-Posted to Access-L and Access-D

I have an Access97 database, split FE/BE. The BE resides on a network drive,
and the FE is on the user's local C drive and it is an MDE file that
references a library MDE that is also on the network. All references use the
full UNC path to the files, not mapped drives.

I have a user who has no trouble when he's in the office docked and
connected to the LAN. The database also works fine when he's at a remote
location that has a dedicated T1 line into our LAN.

However, when he tries to access the database, using the exact same
computer, but connected to the LAN via his cable modem and our VPN s/w he
finds that Access crashes, giving a Dr. Watson error before any sign of the
application appears on screen.

It's one of those "Exception access violation (0xc0000005), Address
0c651503f7" type Dr. Watsons that one typically sees if an MDE application
tries to reference an MDE library that has been modified and recompiled. If
you don't recompile the client MDE you get this type of Dr. Watson.

The only trouble is the library has not been recompiled recently.

Any ideas any one????

Lambert
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Fri Apr 16 16:04:05 2004
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 17:04:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Dr Watson Errors on Broadband connection
Message-ID: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF407AD81D1@xlivmbx12.aig.com>

This is an NT4 box too, but not using Citrix. Like I said it's all just
ticketyboo until he tries to access the Db via his broadband connection at
home????


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Gregg [SMTP:greggs at msn.com]
> Sent:	Friday, April 16, 2004 4:41 PM
> To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject:	RE: [AccessD] Dr Watson Errors on Broadband connection
> 
> I have an app with the same problem... with the same no solution.  We're
> running Citrix on NT4 and SQl be.  I am using a mapped drive to link to
> access and SQL tables.  My Doctor shows up 1 out of 5 times when relinking
> but does seem to be worst on some connections than others. I'm wondering
> if
> it is NT4... what are you running?
> 
> Gregg Steinbrenner
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Heenan,
> Lambert
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:12 PM
> To: ACCESS-L Email (E-mail)
> Cc: Access-D Email (E-mail)
> Subject: [AccessD] Dr Watson Errors on Broadband connection
> 
> 
> X-Posted to Access-L and Access-D
> 
> I have an Access97 database, split FE/BE. The BE resides on a network
> drive,
> and the FE is on the user's local C drive and it is an MDE file that
> references a library MDE that is also on the network. All references use
> the
> full UNC path to the files, not mapped drives.
> 
> I have a user who has no trouble when he's in the office docked and
> connected to the LAN. The database also works fine when he's at a remote
> location that has a dedicated T1 line into our LAN.
> 
> However, when he tries to access the database, using the exact same
> computer, but connected to the LAN via his cable modem and our VPN s/w he
> finds that Access crashes, giving a Dr. Watson error before any sign of
> the
> application appears on screen.
> 
> It's one of those "Exception access violation (0xc0000005), Address
> 0c651503f7" type Dr. Watsons that one typically sees if an MDE application
> tries to reference an MDE library that has been modified and recompiled.
> If
> you don't recompile the client MDE you get this type of Dr. Watson.
> 
> The only trouble is the library has not been recompiled recently.
> 
> Any ideas any one????
> 
> Lambert
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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Fri Apr 16 13:55:05 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 12:55:05 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Still having a subform problem...
Message-ID: <182500-22004451618555222@christopherhawkins.com>

OK, I tried that line and it still errored out.  But it gave me an
idea - I adjusted it slightly, to this:

Me.sFrmResults(sSearchField).ColumnOrder = 1

and it worked.  So thanks for the inspiration!

Now I'm having the same error on this line:

  Me.sFrm.Form.RecordSource = "SELECT * FROM tblCustomer"

I tried re-writing it to be:

  Me.sFrm.RecordSource = "SELECT * FROM tblCustomer"

But it still error s out.  Any ideas on that one?

-Christopher-


---- Original Message ----
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com, 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Still having a subform problem...
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 14:25:05 -0400

>Since the command button and the sub form are on the same subform, 
>try
>
>Me.Form(sSearchField).ColumnOrder = 1
>
>Bryan Carbonnell
>bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca
>
>>>> clh at christopherhawkins.com 16-Apr-04 2:00:46 PM >>>
>..although I looked at this page:
>
>http://www.databaseadvisors.com/newletters/newsletter032004/0310Refer
>e
>
>nceGuide/SyntaxForSubs.htm
>
>The syntax just isn't working.  So, to restate the problem:
>
>The Overview:
>
>frmMain, which has a subform control named sFrm. sFrm's SourceObject
>= "frmSearch"
>
>frmSearch, which has a button named cmdSearch and a subform control
>named sFrmResults. sFrmResults' SourceObject = "frmResults".
>
>frmResults, which has a bunch of fields like FirstName, LastName,
>etc. Typical customer database stuff. frmResults displays as a
>datasheet.
>
>The Problem:
>
>In the code behind cmdSearch, there is a line that tries to re-order
>the columns in the datasheet contained in sFrmResults. That code
>looks like this:
>
>[sFrmResults].Form(sSearchField).ColumnOrder = 1
>
>That line of code tries to execute but instead yields this error:
>
>Method 'Form' of object '_Subform' failed.
>
>Now, this is also totally vanilla, but for some reason it just won't
>work. I tried pulling frmSearch out of frmMain so that the search
>form was it's own form instead of being a subform, and this line
>worked just fine then. Unfortunately, my client will not accep that
>change as a solution; frmSearch must remain a subform. 
>
>But that line just does not work when frmSearch is a subform.
>
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>




From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Apr 16 17:18:05 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 15:18:05 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
References: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKIEEAAFGAA.john@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <40805B9D.5000203@shaw.ca>

Tiff is the standard for records management archivists. It has been 
around 10 years longer than PNG which was a patentless replacement for 
Gif (Unisys). It is also lossless. Adobe has copyright on specifications 
for Tiff. Carries a bit more metadata than png. It is a lot clearer 
displaying straight lines.


John Bartow wrote:

>Probably the biggest drawback to .png is that there was already a widely
>established web of .gif and .jpg images. I believe that is the major cause
>of the non-acceptance of it. Plus file size still rules for WebPages and
>.png rarely (if ever) makes for a smaller file than jpg or gif. Adobe has
>great little utility for optimizes images for the web that lets you compare
>formats and parameters. I've never had .png come as best of the lot.
>
>And although it isn't the lossy compression algorithm that jpg is it also
>has to compete with other more established "large file" formats such as tif,
>bmp, etc. The GIS industry has gone through mage formats by the dozens
>because of their heavy reliance on aerial photography. My first exposure and
>unhappiness with jpg - every time a .jpg file is edited and saved its "lossy
>algorithm" loses more.
>
>Also .png doesn't do everything it was set out to accomplish in the
>beginning - which was basically to replace the .gif with an open source
>public domain format. (IIRC .gif is proprietary but was not protected well
>enough by its owner for too long so the courts wouldn't accept their lawsuit
>claims.)
>
>One more reason is that Microsoft was rather late in adapting their products
>to use it. I used to try using .png just because it was open source and had
>problems with PowerPoint, Word, etc. I know that limitation is somewhat
>history but it was an issue that stymied it.
>
>I wish people would start using it rather than .jpg!
>
>John
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
>Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:34 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
>Most Windows programs support PNG (Adobe Photoshop, Microsoft Photo Editor,
>Internet Explorer, Irfanview, etc).  It just hasn't made it to the industry
>standard realm the same way as other formats have.  (Magazines asking for
>JPG files instead of PNGs for screenshots, for example).
>
>I think you'd be hard pressed to find a current graphics file viewer that
>doesn't support it.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
>Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:28 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>Brett:
>
>Would it be a problem if you wanted to send a file to someone?  Is PNG
>format supported by Windows or any of the popular viewers?
>
>Rocky
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:42 AM
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
>  
>
>>By far, the absolute best format for screenshots is PNG.  Near-infinite
>>color range (handles 32-bit palettes with ease), lossless compression, and
>>tiny file size.
>>
>>Unfortunately, it is open-source based so it hasn't made it to the
>>mainstream like other more popular formats (GIF, JPG).
>>
>>I wrote a global error handler that automatically grabs a full screen shot
>>of the users' workstation upon app failure and stores it as a PNG on the
>>network.  Files range between 8KB and 25KB!
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
>>Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:23 AM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>>
>>You should make this into an article.
>>
>>Thanks to everyone who helped.  I eventually used Irfanview which looks
>>    
>>
>like
>  
>
>>a very complete program.  Just got a note from the publisher - the jpg is
>>fine.  Of course, in the magazine it's going to be probably no bigger than
>>2" x 2"
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Rocky Smolin
>>Beach Access Software
>>http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:18 PM
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>>>...don't use any program that initially captures your screen as a jpeg
>>>      
>>>
>>...I
>>    
>>
>>>won't go into the details here but when you save an image as a jpeg you
>>>      
>>>
>>are
>>    
>>
>>>using a lossy algorithm that throws away portions of the graphic ...its
>>>      
>>>
>>the
>>    
>>
>>>nature of the beast ...in order to give them the high quality jpeg they
>>>need, start with a decent graphics program that lets you capture the
>>>      
>>>
>image
>  
>
>>>in a high quality, uncompressed format to begin with ...Photoshop and
>>>paintshoppro are the mainstream programs ...I personally use
>>>      
>>>
>paintshoppro
>  
>
>>>(www.jasc.com) ...set your screen resolution to the highest resolution
>>>      
>>>
>>your
>>    
>>
>>>graphics card can support and make sure your image capture area is clean
>>>      
>>>
>>and
>>    
>>
>>>clear at that resolution ...capture the image and save it into un
>>>uncompressed format, preferably the native format of your graphics
>>>      
>>>
>program
>  
>
>>>...in paintshoppro that would give you an image with a .pspimage file
>>>      
>>>
>tag
>  
>
>>>...using that image you can do all sorts of image enhancements to make
>>>      
>>>
>>your
>>    
>>
>>>saved image look better ...then resize it to 300dpi ...if you started at
>>>      
>>>
>a
>  
>
>>>much lower screen resolution you might wind up with too small an image
>>>      
>>>
>at
>  
>
>>>this point ...once the image is sized/cropped/enhanced just as you'd
>>>      
>>>
>like
>  
>
>>to
>>    
>>
>>>see it, use your graphics program's feature that optimizes it and saves
>>>      
>>>
>it
>  
>
>>>as a jpeg ...use zero compression (even though the jpeg will still have
>>>      
>>>
>>some
>>    
>>
>>>inherent image quality loss) and make sure that you use the comparison
>>>feature to ensure minimal visible loss of image quality in the resulting
>>>file.
>>>
>>>...now you have a decent sized jpeg at the desired dpi that is the best
>>>      
>>>
>>that
>>    
>>
>>>you can present ...hth :)
>>>
>>>William Hindman
>>>"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
>>>a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>>To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:30 PM
>>>Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>>>
>>>
>>>Dear List:
>>>
>>>A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it
>>>      
>>>
>to
>  
>
>>be
>>    
>>
>>>300dpi.
>>>
>>>What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?
>>>
>>>MTIA,
>>>
>>>Rocky Smolin
>>>Beach Access Software
>>>http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>    
>>
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>>    
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>prohibited.  If
>  
>
>>transmission is incorrect, unclear, or incomplete, please notify the
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>sender
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>>    
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>>from disclosing this information to any other party and is/are required to
>>destroy the information after its stated need has been fulfilled.
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>>sender, except where the sender specifies and with authority,
>>states them to be the views of Tappe Construction Co.
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>is legally privileged. The information is only for the use of the intended
>recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient(s), you
>are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the
>taking
>of any action in regard to the content of this email is strictly prohibited.
>If
>transmission is incorrect, unclear, or incomplete, please notify the sender
>immediately. The authorized recipient(s) of this information is/are
>prohibited
>from disclosing this information to any other party and is/are required to
>destroy the information after its stated need has been fulfilled.
>
>Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual
>sender, except where the sender specifies and with authority,
>states them to be the views of Tappe Construction Co.
>
>This footer also confirms that this email message has been scanned
>for the presence of computer viruses.Scanning of this message and
>addition of this footer is performed by SurfControl E-mail Filter software
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>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr 16 18:44:14 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 19:44:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
References: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKIEEAAFGAA.john@winhaven.net>
	<40805B9D.5000203@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <003b01c4240c$b995db70$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...problem with TIFF is that it requires large files and remains a raster
format ...both of which are potential problems on the net ...when the vector
based SVG format gets fully implemented in more browsers we'll finally have
something that produces both great graphics and small files ...I'm using
some now for IE6 clients and the results are great.

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


> Tiff is the standard for records management archivists. It has been
> around 10 years longer than PNG which was a patentless replacement for
> Gif (Unisys). It is also lossless. Adobe has copyright on specifications
> for Tiff. Carries a bit more metadata than png. It is a lot clearer
> displaying straight lines.
>
>
> John Bartow wrote:
>
> >Probably the biggest drawback to .png is that there was already a widely
> >established web of .gif and .jpg images. I believe that is the major
cause
> >of the non-acceptance of it. Plus file size still rules for WebPages and
> >.png rarely (if ever) makes for a smaller file than jpg or gif. Adobe has
> >great little utility for optimizes images for the web that lets you
compare
> >formats and parameters. I've never had .png come as best of the lot.
> >
> >And although it isn't the lossy compression algorithm that jpg is it also
> >has to compete with other more established "large file" formats such as
tif,
> >bmp, etc. The GIS industry has gone through mage formats by the dozens
> >because of their heavy reliance on aerial photography. My first exposure
and
> >unhappiness with jpg - every time a .jpg file is edited and saved its
"lossy
> >algorithm" loses more.
> >
> >Also .png doesn't do everything it was set out to accomplish in the
> >beginning - which was basically to replace the .gif with an open source
> >public domain format. (IIRC .gif is proprietary but was not protected
well
> >enough by its owner for too long so the courts wouldn't accept their
lawsuit
> >claims.)
> >
> >One more reason is that Microsoft was rather late in adapting their
products
> >to use it. I used to try using .png just because it was open source and
had
> >problems with PowerPoint, Word, etc. I know that limitation is somewhat
> >history but it was an issue that stymied it.
> >
> >I wish people would start using it rather than .jpg!
> >
> >John
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
> >Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:34 PM
> >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
> >
> >
> >Most Windows programs support PNG (Adobe Photoshop, Microsoft Photo
Editor,
> >Internet Explorer, Irfanview, etc).  It just hasn't made it to the
industry
> >standard realm the same way as other formats have.  (Magazines asking for
> >JPG files instead of PNGs for screenshots, for example).
> >
> >I think you'd be hard pressed to find a current graphics file viewer that
> >doesn't support it.
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> >Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:28 PM
> >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> >Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
> >
> >Brett:
> >
> >Would it be a problem if you wanted to send a file to someone?  Is PNG
> >format supported by Windows or any of the popular viewers?
> >
> >Rocky
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
> >To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> ><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:42 AM
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>By far, the absolute best format for screenshots is PNG.  Near-infinite
> >>color range (handles 32-bit palettes with ease), lossless compression,
and
> >>tiny file size.
> >>
> >>Unfortunately, it is open-source based so it hasn't made it to the
> >>mainstream like other more popular formats (GIF, JPG).
> >>
> >>I wrote a global error handler that automatically grabs a full screen
shot
> >>of the users' workstation upon app failure and stores it as a PNG on the
> >>network.  Files range between 8KB and 25KB!
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> >>Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:23 AM
> >>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
> >>
> >>You should make this into an article.
> >>
> >>Thanks to everyone who helped.  I eventually used Irfanview which looks
> >>
> >>
> >like
> >
> >
> >>a very complete program.  Just got a note from the publisher - the jpg
is
> >>fine.  Of course, in the magazine it's going to be probably no bigger
than
> >>2" x 2"
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>Rocky Smolin
> >>Beach Access Software
> >>http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> >>
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
> >>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> >><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >>Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:18 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>...don't use any program that initially captures your screen as a jpeg
> >>>
> >>>
> >>...I
> >>
> >>
> >>>won't go into the details here but when you save an image as a jpeg you
> >>>
> >>>
> >>are
> >>
> >>
> >>>using a lossy algorithm that throws away portions of the graphic ...its
> >>>
> >>>
> >>the
> >>
> >>
> >>>nature of the beast ...in order to give them the high quality jpeg they
> >>>need, start with a decent graphics program that lets you capture the
> >>>
> >>>
> >image
> >
> >
> >>>in a high quality, uncompressed format to begin with ...Photoshop and
> >>>paintshoppro are the mainstream programs ...I personally use
> >>>
> >>>
> >paintshoppro
> >
> >
> >>>(www.jasc.com) ...set your screen resolution to the highest resolution
> >>>
> >>>
> >>your
> >>
> >>
> >>>graphics card can support and make sure your image capture area is
clean
> >>>
> >>>
> >>and
> >>
> >>
> >>>clear at that resolution ...capture the image and save it into un
> >>>uncompressed format, preferably the native format of your graphics
> >>>
> >>>
> >program
> >
> >
> >>>...in paintshoppro that would give you an image with a .pspimage file
> >>>
> >>>
> >tag
> >
> >
> >>>...using that image you can do all sorts of image enhancements to make
> >>>
> >>>
> >>your
> >>
> >>
> >>>saved image look better ...then resize it to 300dpi ...if you started
at
> >>>
> >>>
> >a
> >
> >
> >>>much lower screen resolution you might wind up with too small an image
> >>>
> >>>
> >at
> >
> >
> >>>this point ...once the image is sized/cropped/enhanced just as you'd
> >>>
> >>>
> >like
> >
> >
> >>to
> >>
> >>
> >>>see it, use your graphics program's feature that optimizes it and saves
> >>>
> >>>
> >it
> >
> >
> >>>as a jpeg ...use zero compression (even though the jpeg will still have
> >>>
> >>>
> >>some
> >>
> >>
> >>>inherent image quality loss) and make sure that you use the comparison
> >>>feature to ensure minimal visible loss of image quality in the
resulting
> >>>file.
> >>>
> >>>...now you have a decent sized jpeg at the desired dpi that is the best
> >>>
> >>>
> >>that
> >>
> >>
> >>>you can present ...hth :)
> >>>
> >>>William Hindman
> >>>"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code
is
> >>>a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> >>>To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> >>>Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:30 PM
> >>>Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Dear List:
> >>>
> >>>A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it
> >>>
> >>>
> >to
> >
> >
> >>be
> >>
> >>
> >>>300dpi.
> >>>
> >>>What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?
> >>>
> >>>MTIA,
> >>>
> >>>Rocky Smolin
> >>>Beach Access Software
> >>>http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >>The information in this email may contain confidential information that
> >>is legally privileged. The information is only for the use of the
intended
> >>recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient(s), you
> >>are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the
> >>
> >>
> >taking
> >
> >
> >>of any action in regard to the content of this email is strictly
> >>
> >>
> >prohibited.  If
> >
> >
> >>transmission is incorrect, unclear, or incomplete, please notify the
> >>
> >>
> >sender
> >
> >
> >>immediately. The authorized recipient(s) of this information is/are
> >>
> >>
> >prohibited
> >
> >
> >>from disclosing this information to any other party and is/are required
to
> >>destroy the information after its stated need has been fulfilled.
> >>
> >>Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual
> >>sender, except where the sender specifies and with authority,
> >>states them to be the views of Tappe Construction Co.
> >>
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prohibited.
> >If
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> >immediately. The authorized recipient(s) of this information is/are
> >prohibited
> >from disclosing this information to any other party and is/are required
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> >destroy the information after its stated need has been fulfilled.
> >
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> >sender, except where the sender specifies and with authority,
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> Victoria, B.C.
> Canada
>
>
>
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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Fri Apr 16 20:25:12 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 18:25:12 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo
Message-ID: <001201c4241a$d8232cb0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

I opened a copy of the sysvar 2k mdb and built the additional tables.
When I try to open frmSysVar I get the error  " Compile Error: User
defined type: Not defined.
 
Dim mdb as DAO.Database
 
I checked and I do have the dao reference marked.
 
It is XP in 2000 format
 
Any thoughts apreciated
 
 
 
JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Apr 16 21:44:53 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 22:44:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo
In-Reply-To: <001201c4241a$d8232cb0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPGELFHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Is that from my site or DatabaseAdvisors?  Or somewhere else?

John W. Colby 
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:25 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo


I opened a copy of the sysvar 2k mdb and built the additional tables.
When I try to open frmSysVar I get the error  " Compile Error: User
defined type: Not defined.
 
Dim mdb as DAO.Database
 
I checked and I do have the dao reference marked.
 
It is XP in 2000 format
 
Any thoughts apreciated
 
 
 
JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 
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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Fri Apr 16 22:24:16 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 20:24:16 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPGELFHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <002801c4242b$79892040$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

John,

It is your sysvar demo. Did you get the e mail I sent you privately?

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 7:45 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo

Is that from my site or DatabaseAdvisors?  Or somewhere else?

John W. Colby 
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:25 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo


I opened a copy of the sysvar 2k mdb and built the additional tables.
When I try to open frmSysVar I get the error  " Compile Error: User
defined type: Not defined.
 
Dim mdb as DAO.Database
 
I checked and I do have the dao reference marked.
 
It is XP in 2000 format
 
Any thoughts apreciated
 
 
 
JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 
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From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr 16 23:13:17 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 00:13:17 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo
References: <001201c4241a$d8232cb0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <00d101c42432$50002cd0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...is the DAO reference listed before the ADO reference as it should be?

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Hecht" <jmhla at earthlink.net>
To: "AccessD" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:25 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo


> I opened a copy of the sysvar 2k mdb and built the additional tables.
> When I try to open frmSysVar I get the error  " Compile Error: User
> defined type: Not defined.
>  
> Dim mdb as DAO.Database
>  
> I checked and I do have the dao reference marked.
>  
> It is XP in 2000 format
>  
> Any thoughts apreciated
>  
>  
>  
> JOE HECHT
> LOS ANGELES CA 
>  
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sat Apr 17 03:08:08 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 01:08:08 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Upgrade to Jet SP-8 via Microsoft Windows
	Update facilty
References: <001201c4241a$d8232cb0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
	<00d101c42432$50002cd0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
Message-ID: <4080E5E8.3080500@shaw.ca>

 I am not sure but after checking the version numbers of MSJet40.dll, 
DAO360.dll and several others. It appears that Microsoft has upgraded 
everyone to an advanced security fix version of  JET SP-8 after 
receiving this months Windows Update automatic security upgrades.
 It would have been nice to have received a notification .;) Not sure 
what this will do to Jet Sandbox mode.
You can check quickly for the install through the control panel 
add/remove programs and look at bottom for MS HotFix 837001.
This doesn't apply to the OS's  Windows Me and below.
Here are the relevant Url's.
Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-014
Vulnerability in the Microsoft Jet Database Engine Could Allow Code 
Execution (837001)
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms04-014.mspx
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=837001

Old Jet Service Pack 8 File Manifest
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=829558

 The only reason I noticed was I was looking at an article on BBC 
Scotland news site describing a 19 year old from Aberdeen, Matt Thompson 
who brought the security fault to Microsoft's attention. They happened 
to mention the fault was in JET, which piqued my interest to look further.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3630649.stm


-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Apr 17 03:43:02 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 10:43:02 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Upgrade to Jet SP-8 via Microsoft Windows
	Update facilty
In-Reply-To: <4080E5E8.3080500@shaw.ca>
References: <001201c4241a$d8232cb0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
	<00d101c42432$50002cd0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys> <4080E5E8.3080500@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <213977429.20040417104302@cactus.dk>

Hi Marty

That's why I always download the patches, then install them one by one
- it allows you to read the notice from MS on the patch.

However, this 837001 patch seems to uninstallable if it causes you
trouble.

/gustav


>  I am not sure but after checking the version numbers of MSJet40.dll, 
> DAO360.dll and several others. It appears that Microsoft has upgraded 
> everyone to an advanced security fix version of  JET SP-8 after 
> receiving this months Windows Update automatic security upgrades.
>  It would have been nice to have received a notification .;) Not sure 
> what this will do to Jet Sandbox mode.
> You can check quickly for the install through the control panel 
> add/remove programs and look at bottom for MS HotFix 837001.
> This doesn't apply to the OS's  Windows Me and below.
> Here are the relevant Url's.
> Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-014
> Vulnerability in the Microsoft Jet Database Engine Could Allow Code 
> Execution (837001)
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms04-014.mspx
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=837001

> Old Jet Service Pack 8 File Manifest
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=829558

>  The only reason I noticed was I was looking at an article on BBC 
> Scotland news site describing a 19 year old from Aberdeen, Matt Thompson 
> who brought the security fault to Microsoft's attention. They happened 
> to mention the fault was in JET, which piqued my interest to look further.
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3630649.stm


> -- 
> Marty Connelly
> Victoria, B.C.
> Canada



From serbach at new.rr.com  Sat Apr 17 09:01:45 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 09:01:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
Message-ID: <20040417090145.183052912.serbach@new.rr.com>

William,

>> ...when the vector based SVG format gets fully implemented in more browsers we'll finally have something that produces both great graphics and small files ...I'm using some now for IE6 clients and the results are great. <<

This is the first I've heard of SVG. What does the acronym stand for and where can I find some on-line examples?

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504

"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty." - John F. Kennedy, 1961



From DaveSharpe2 at cox.net  Sat Apr 17 10:01:28 2004
From: DaveSharpe2 at cox.net (Dave Sharpe)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 11:01:28 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
References: <20040417090145.183052912.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <005801c4248c$dcb24af0$dd2f0a44@bcsrkeext6137>

Steve

You can look here for some info

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/

Dave

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven W. Erbach" <serbach at new.rr.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


William,

>> ...when the vector based SVG format gets fully implemented in more
browsers we'll finally have something that produces both great graphics and
small files ...I'm using some now for IE6 clients and the results are great.
<<

This is the first I've heard of SVG. What does the acronym stand for and
where can I find some on-line examples?

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504

"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay
any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose
any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty." - John
F. Kennedy, 1961

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sat Apr 17 11:07:57 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 09:07:57 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
References: <20040417090145.183052912.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<005801c4248c$dcb24af0$dd2f0a44@bcsrkeext6137>
Message-ID: <4081565D.7060103@shaw.ca>

Here is a spot with a few links to SVG (Scalable Vector Graphics)  articles
http://searchwebservices.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid26_gci918717,00.html

Grab an SVG viewer from Adobe. There are others.
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/main.html

Then save the xml file below as test.svg

Right click on filename and open with IE.
It is a graphical display of relative size of tablespaces in an Oracle DB.

You maybe able to find way more advanced displays ( Map of the Internet)
at Tim Bray's company in Vancouver. It may have moved elsewhere.
http://www.antarti.ca

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
 <svg width="640" height="480">
 <style type="text/css">
 <![CDATA[
 line {stroke:black;}
 text {text-anchor:middle;}
 ]]></style>
 <rect x="0" y="0" width="90" height="81" style="fill:#b1ff00"/><text 
x="45" y="41">CWMLITE</text>
 <line x1="90" y1="0" x2="90" y2="81"/>
 <rect x="90" y="0" width="89" height="81" style="fill:#aeff00"/>
 <text x="134" y="41">DRSYS</text>
 <line x1="0" y1="81" x2="179" y2="81"/>
 <rect x="0" y="81" width="59" height="399" style="fill:#fbff00"/>
 <text x="30" y="281">EJALA</text>
 <line x1="59" y1="81" x2="59" y2="480"/>
 <rect x="59" y="81" width="120" height="299" style="fill:#02ff00"/>
 <text x="119" y="231">EXAMPLE</text>
 <line x1="59" y1="380" x2="179" y2="380"/>
 <rect x="59" y="380" width="120" height="100" style="fill:#ffff00"/>
 <text x="119" y="430">INDX</text>
 <line x1="179" y1="0" x2="179" y2="480"/>
 <rect x="179" y="0" width="32" height="231" style="fill:#b1ff00"/>
 <text x="195" y="116">ODM</text>
 <line x1="211" y1="0" x2="211" y2="231"/>
 <rect x="211" y="0" width="429" height="223" style="fill:#02ff00"/>
 <text x="425" y="112">SYSTEM</text>
 <line x1="211" y1="223" x2="640" y2="223"/>
 <rect x="211" y="223" width="429" height="8" style="fill:#90ff00"/>
 <text x="425" y="227">TOOLS</text>
 <line x1="179" y1="231" x2="640" y2="231"/>
 <rect x="179" y="231" width="376" height="249" style="fill:#faff00"/>
 <text x="367" y="356">UNDOTBS1</text>
 <line x1="555" y1="231" x2="555" y2="480"/>
 <rect x="555" y="231" width="85" height="141" style="fill:#ffff00"/>
 <text x="598" y="302">USERS</text>
 <line x1="555" y1="372" x2="640" y2="372"/>
 <rect x="555" y="372" width="85" height="108" style="fill:#02ff00"/>
 <text x="598" y="426">XDB</text>
 <rect x="0" y="0" width="640" height="480" style="fill:none; 
stroke:black;"/>
 </svg>
 



Dave Sharpe wrote:

>Steve
>
>You can look here for some info
>
>http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/
>
>Dave
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Steven W. Erbach" <serbach at new.rr.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 10:01 AM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
>William,
>
>  
>
>>>...when the vector based SVG format gets fully implemented in more
>>>      
>>>
>browsers we'll finally have something that produces both great graphics and
>small files ...I'm using some now for IE6 clients and the results are great.
><<
>
>This is the first I've heard of SVG. What does the acronym stand for and
>where can I find some on-line examples?
>
>Regards,
>
>Steve Erbach
>Scientific Marketing
>Neenah, WI
>920-969-0504
>
>"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay
>any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose
>any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty." - John
>F. Kennedy, 1961
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Apr 17 11:36:12 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 12:36:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo
In-Reply-To: <002801c4242b$79892040$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPOELGHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

No.  Did you send it to jWcolby at colbyconsulting.com.  Notice the W in there.
the jcolby@ address has been turned off.

I looked at the demo on my site, and tried to find the dim statement and
couldn't.  I do dimension databases, but I always use db, not Mdb.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 11:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo


John,

It is your sysvar demo. Did you get the e mail I sent you privately?

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 7:45 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo

Is that from my site or DatabaseAdvisors?  Or somewhere else?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:25 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo


I opened a copy of the sysvar 2k mdb and built the additional tables.
When I try to open frmSysVar I get the error  " Compile Error: User
defined type: Not defined.

Dim mdb as DAO.Database

I checked and I do have the dao reference marked.

It is XP in 2000 format

Any thoughts apreciated



JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sat Apr 17 11:32:13 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 09:32:13 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Upgrade to Jet SP-8 via Microsoft Windows
	Update facilty
References: <001201c4241a$d8232cb0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
	<00d101c42432$50002cd0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys> <4080E5E8.3080500@shaw.ca>
	<213977429.20040417104302@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <40815C0D.8030203@shaw.ca>

I had Jet SP-7 installed and was planning to upgrade to SP-8  sometime 
soon. It made the decision for me.
I was wondering if people were also upgraded from Jet SP-4 or 5 etc.
It could be they did this to stop people from running things like 
following that makes all files in
the current folder read only.
SELECT Shell("Cmd /c attrib +R *.*") As c1 From Customers
With a little bit of fiddling with SQL Injection methods you could stuff 
this into a field in a web asp page and have it run on a website using 
Access.
But I don't think this patch was the only problem it was fixing.

How to configure Jet 4.0 to prevent unsafe functions from running in 
Access 2003
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;294698&Product=acc

Gustav Brock wrote:

>Hi Marty
>
>That's why I always download the patches, then install them one by one
>- it allows you to read the notice from MS on the patch.
>
>However, this 837001 patch seems to uninstallable if it causes you
>trouble.
>
>/gustav
>
>
>  
>
>> I am not sure but after checking the version numbers of MSJet40.dll, 
>>DAO360.dll and several others. It appears that Microsoft has upgraded 
>>everyone to an advanced security fix version of  JET SP-8 after 
>>receiving this months Windows Update automatic security upgrades.
>> It would have been nice to have received a notification .;) Not sure 
>>what this will do to Jet Sandbox mode.
>>You can check quickly for the install through the control panel 
>>add/remove programs and look at bottom for MS HotFix 837001.
>>This doesn't apply to the OS's  Windows Me and below.
>>Here are the relevant Url's.
>>Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-014
>>Vulnerability in the Microsoft Jet Database Engine Could Allow Code 
>>Execution (837001)
>>http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms04-014.mspx
>>http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=837001
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>Old Jet Service Pack 8 File Manifest
>>http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=829558
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>> The only reason I noticed was I was looking at an article on BBC 
>>Scotland news site describing a 19 year old from Aberdeen, Matt Thompson 
>>who brought the security fault to Microsoft's attention. They happened 
>>to mention the fault was in JET, which piqued my interest to look further.
>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3630649.stm
>>    
>>
>
>
>  
>
>>-- 
>>Marty Connelly
>>Victoria, B.C.
>>Canada
>>    
>>
>
>  
>

-- 
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Canada





From Subscriptions at servicexp.com  Sat Apr 17 12:03:54 2004
From: Subscriptions at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 13:03:54 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo
In-Reply-To: <002801c4242b$79892040$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <GPEGJHKJCEPGJIEIOEOOAEEKDLAA.Subscriptions@servicexp.com>

I think the problem is in the line below (Corrected) in the MergeSysVars
method. The .Value must be added.


mcolSysVars.Add Item:=!SV_VarValue.Value, Key:=!SV_VarName.Value


Robert Gracie
www.servicexp.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 11:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo


John,

It is your sysvar demo. Did you get the e mail I sent you privately?

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 7:45 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo

Is that from my site or DatabaseAdvisors?  Or somewhere else?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:25 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo


I opened a copy of the sysvar 2k mdb and built the additional tables.
When I try to open frmSysVar I get the error  " Compile Error: User
defined type: Not defined.

Dim mdb as DAO.Database

I checked and I do have the dao reference marked.

It is XP in 2000 format

Any thoughts apreciated



JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Apr 17 12:21:46 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 13:21:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo
In-Reply-To: <GPEGJHKJCEPGJIEIOEOOAEEKDLAA.Subscriptions@servicexp.com>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPIELHHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

I downloaded the 2k version from my site last night and just ran it.  No
errors.

Methinks something else is happening.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Robert Gracie
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 1:04 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo


I think the problem is in the line below (Corrected) in the MergeSysVars
method. The .Value must be added.


mcolSysVars.Add Item:=!SV_VarValue.Value, Key:=!SV_VarName.Value


Robert Gracie
www.servicexp.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 11:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo


John,

It is your sysvar demo. Did you get the e mail I sent you privately?

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA




From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Apr 17 12:37:39 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 19:37:39 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Upgrade to Jet SP-8 via Microsoft Windows
	Update facilty
In-Reply-To: <40815C0D.8030203@shaw.ca>
References: <001201c4241a$d8232cb0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
	<00d101c42432$50002cd0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys> <4080E5E8.3080500@shaw.ca>
	<213977429.20040417104302@cactus.dk> <40815C0D.8030203@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <13236054113.20040417193739@cactus.dk>

Hi Marty

> I had Jet SP-7 installed and was planning to upgrade to SP-8  sometime
> soon. It made the decision for me.
> I was wondering if people were also upgraded from Jet SP-4 or 5 etc.

Ahh, I see.
I don't know - I already had SP-8 installed.

/gustav



From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sat Apr 17 12:50:09 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 10:50:09 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPIELHHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <000001c424a4$7046c860$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

John,

I am running in 2000 mode in XP. Does it need some tlc because of xp

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 10:22 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo

I downloaded the 2k version from my site last night and just ran it.  No
errors.

Methinks something else is happening.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Robert Gracie
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 1:04 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo


I think the problem is in the line below (Corrected) in the MergeSysVars
method. The .Value must be added.


mcolSysVars.Add Item:=!SV_VarValue.Value, Key:=!SV_VarName.Value


Robert Gracie
www.servicexp.com


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 11:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo


John,

It is your sysvar demo. Did you get the e mail I sent you privately?

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA


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From Susan.Klos at fldoe.org  Sat Apr 17 14:15:35 2004
From: Susan.Klos at fldoe.org (Klos, Susan)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 15:15:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Changing the table in a query so I can loop through the
	query
Message-ID: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51E0410BE@DOESEFPEML02.EUS.FLDOE.INT>

I have an append query that can work for 71 tables.  I want to create a for
next loop function that will substitute the table names (they are numbers)
each time it loops.  Can someone help me?  I do not quite have the query def
thing down and I think I need to use it here.  Each table has the same
fields.

 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

 



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sat Apr 17 15:57:21 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 16:57:21 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Changing the table in a query so I can loop through
	thequery
In-Reply-To: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51E0410BE@DOESEFPEML02.EUS.FLDOE.INT>
Message-ID: <20040417205721.PKCA1773.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

You don't need a querydef, you can stick a SQL UPDATE in a For Mext loop. 

Susan H. 

I have an append query that can work for 71 tables.  I want to create a for
next loop function that will substitute the table names (they are numbers)
each time it loops.  Can someone help me?  I do not quite have the query def
thing down and I think I need to use it here.  Each table has the same
fields.

 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

 

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sat Apr 17 15:59:29 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 16:59:29 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Changing the table in a query so I can loop through
	thequery
In-Reply-To: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51E0410BE@DOESEFPEML02.EUS.FLDOE.INT>
Message-ID: <20040417205929.PLEB1773.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I'm sorry, not an UPDATE, but a SQL INSERT INTO

Susan H. 

I have an append query that can work for 71 tables.  I want to create a for
next loop function that will substitute the table names (they are numbers)
each time it loops.  Can someone help me?  I do not quite have the query def
thing down and I think I need to use it here.  Each table has the same
fields.




From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Sat Apr 17 16:02:18 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Developer)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 17:02:18 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Changing the table in a query so I can loop through
	thequery
In-Reply-To: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51E0410BE@DOESEFPEML02.EUS.FLDOE.INT>
Message-ID: <000001c424bf$47eb6860$6401a8c0@COA3>

Susan:
Rather than use the query def, paste the sql in the query into your
code, and then do something like:

For i = 1 to 71
   currentdb.execute "insert into " & i & " whatever the rest of the sql
is ...
Next i 

Hth
Steve





-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Klos, Susan
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 3:16 PM
To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: [AccessD] Changing the table in a query so I can loop through
thequery


I have an append query that can work for 71 tables.  I want to create a
for next loop function that will substitute the table names (they are
numbers) each time it loops.  Can someone help me?  I do not quite have
the query def thing down and I think I need to use it here.  Each table
has the same fields.

 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

 

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From sgoodhall at comcast.net  Sat Apr 17 16:48:39 2004
From: sgoodhall at comcast.net (Steve Goodhall)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 17:48:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
In-Reply-To: <4081565D.7060103@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <GOEIJOAPGAMPLIOCMEPMMELNDMAA.sgoodhall@comcast.net>

Sorry I haven't been on the list much lately and did not see this when it
came up.  The Microsoft HTML Help Workshop
(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=00535334-c8a6-452f
-9aa0-d597d16580cc&DisplayLang=en) has a screen and window capture utility,
image editor, etc.  It works quite well, and it's free.

Regards,

Steve Goodhall


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 12:08 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


Here is a spot with a few links to SVG (Scalable Vector Graphics)  articles
http://searchwebservices.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid26_gci918717,00.html

Grab an SVG viewer from Adobe. There are others.
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/main.html

Then save the xml file below as test.svg

Right click on filename and open with IE.
It is a graphical display of relative size of tablespaces in an Oracle DB.

You maybe able to find way more advanced displays ( Map of the Internet)
at Tim Bray's company in Vancouver. It may have moved elsewhere.
http://www.antarti.ca

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
 <svg width="640" height="480">
 <style type="text/css">
 <![CDATA[
 line {stroke:black;}
 text {text-anchor:middle;}
 ]]></style>
 <rect x="0" y="0" width="90" height="81" style="fill:#b1ff00"/><text
x="45" y="41">CWMLITE</text>
 <line x1="90" y1="0" x2="90" y2="81"/>
 <rect x="90" y="0" width="89" height="81" style="fill:#aeff00"/>
 <text x="134" y="41">DRSYS</text>
 <line x1="0" y1="81" x2="179" y2="81"/>
 <rect x="0" y="81" width="59" height="399" style="fill:#fbff00"/>
 <text x="30" y="281">EJALA</text>
 <line x1="59" y1="81" x2="59" y2="480"/>
 <rect x="59" y="81" width="120" height="299" style="fill:#02ff00"/>
 <text x="119" y="231">EXAMPLE</text>
 <line x1="59" y1="380" x2="179" y2="380"/>
 <rect x="59" y="380" width="120" height="100" style="fill:#ffff00"/>
 <text x="119" y="430">INDX</text>
 <line x1="179" y1="0" x2="179" y2="480"/>
 <rect x="179" y="0" width="32" height="231" style="fill:#b1ff00"/>
 <text x="195" y="116">ODM</text>
 <line x1="211" y1="0" x2="211" y2="231"/>
 <rect x="211" y="0" width="429" height="223" style="fill:#02ff00"/>
 <text x="425" y="112">SYSTEM</text>
 <line x1="211" y1="223" x2="640" y2="223"/>
 <rect x="211" y="223" width="429" height="8" style="fill:#90ff00"/>
 <text x="425" y="227">TOOLS</text>
 <line x1="179" y1="231" x2="640" y2="231"/>
 <rect x="179" y="231" width="376" height="249" style="fill:#faff00"/>
 <text x="367" y="356">UNDOTBS1</text>
 <line x1="555" y1="231" x2="555" y2="480"/>
 <rect x="555" y="231" width="85" height="141" style="fill:#ffff00"/>
 <text x="598" y="302">USERS</text>
 <line x1="555" y1="372" x2="640" y2="372"/>
 <rect x="555" y="372" width="85" height="108" style="fill:#02ff00"/>
 <text x="598" y="426">XDB</text>
 <rect x="0" y="0" width="640" height="480" style="fill:none;
stroke:black;"/>
 </svg>




Dave Sharpe wrote:

>Steve
>
>You can look here for some info
>
>http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/
>
>Dave
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Steven W. Erbach" <serbach at new.rr.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 10:01 AM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
>William,
>
>
>
>>>...when the vector based SVG format gets fully implemented in more
>>>
>>>
>browsers we'll finally have something that produces both great graphics and
>small files ...I'm using some now for IE6 clients and the results are
great.
><<
>
>This is the first I've heard of SVG. What does the acronym stand for and
>where can I find some on-line examples?
>
>Regards,
>
>Steve Erbach
>Scientific Marketing
>Neenah, WI
>920-969-0504
>
>"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay
>any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose
>any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty." -
John
>F. Kennedy, 1961
>
>
>

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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sat Apr 17 17:20:21 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 15:20:21 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Changing the table in a query so I can loop through the
	query
References: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51E0410BE@DOESEFPEML02.EUS.FLDOE.INT>
Message-ID: <4081ADA5.1000205@shaw.ca>

If you are just appending fields  modified slightly from Access97 help



'Append and Delete Methods Example
'This example uses either the Append method or the Delete method to 
modify the Fields collection of a TableDef. The AppendDeleteField 
procedure is required for this procedure to run.

Sub AppendX()

    Dim dbs As Database
    Dim tdf As TableDef
    Dim fldLoop As Field
    Dim strTdef As String
    Set dbs = CurrentDb
      'Import tables from specified Access database or currentDB
    For Each tdf In dbs.TableDefs 'loop through tables for names
    strTdef = tdf.Name
    Debug.Print strTdef
    If Left(strTdef, 4) <> "MSys" Then ' skip system tables

    ' Add three new fields. 'you may want to add other options like no 
zero length etc
    AppendDeleteField tdf, "APPEND", "E-mail", dbText, 50
    AppendDeleteField tdf, "APPEND", "Http", dbText, 80
    AppendDeleteField tdf, "APPEND", "Quota", dbInteger, 5

    Debug.Print "Fields after Append to Table " & tdf.Name

    Debug.Print , "Type", "Size", "Name"

    ' Enumerate the Fields collection to show the new fields.
    For Each fldLoop In tdf.Fields
        Debug.Print , fldLoop.Type, fldLoop.Size, fldLoop.Name
    Next fldLoop

    ' Delete the newly added fields.
   ' AppendDeleteField tdf, "DELETE", "E-mail"
   ' AppendDeleteField tdf, "DELETE", "Http"
   ' AppendDeleteField tdf, "DELETE", "Quota"

   ' Debug.Print "Fields after Delete"
   ' Debug.Print , "Type", "Size", "Name"


    ' Enumerate the Fields collection to show that the new
    ' fields have been deleted.
    For Each fldLoop In tdf.Fields
        Debug.Print , fldLoop.Type, fldLoop.Size, fldLoop.Name
    Next fldLoop
   
    End If
   
  Next tdf

  dbs.Close

End Sub

Sub AppendDeleteField(tdfTemp As TableDef, _
    strCommand As String, strName As String, _
    Optional varType, Optional varSize)

    With tdfTemp

        ' Check first to see if the TableDef object is
        ' updatable. If it isn't, control is passed back to

        ' the calling procedure.
        If .Updatable = False Then
            MsgBox "TableDef not Updatable! " & _
                "Unable to complete task."
            Exit Sub
        End If

        ' Depending on the passed data, append or delete a
        ' field to the Fields collection of the specified
        ' TableDef object.
        If strCommand = "APPEND" Then
            .Fields.Append .CreateField(strName, _
                varType, varSize)
        Else
            If strCommand = "DELETE" Then .Fields.Delete _
                strName
        End If

    End With

End Sub




Klos, Susan wrote:

>I have an append query that can work for 71 tables.  I want to create a for
>next loop function that will substitute the table names (they are numbers)
>each time it loops.  Can someone help me?  I do not quite have the query def
>thing down and I think I need to use it here.  Each table has the same
>fields.
>
> 
>
>Susan Klos
>
>Senior Database Analyst
>
>Evaluation and Reporting
>
>Florida Department of Education
>
> 
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sat Apr 17 17:46:53 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 18:46:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
Message-ID: <20040417224653.KZKB1818.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I'm grouping and sorting a report on a date field. The grouping is by the
week -- but I want it to handle a changing first day of the week variable. I
can't get my head around it at all. 
 
Passing the first day of the week around is no problem -- I just can't seem
to get Access to group by it. I've looked at CreateGroupLevel, but I don't
see how that can help. 
 
I tried adding a DatePart expression to the Detail section and using the
OpenArgs property to pass the first day of the week, and while the
expression works, I can't group by it -- it's a calculated control. I don't
want the users manipulating the underlying query either. They choose the
first day of the week from a simple form and the rest needs to happen behind
the scenes. 
 
Any suggestions? 
 
Susan H. 


From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sat Apr 17 18:21:04 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 19:21:04 -0400
Subject: FW: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
Message-ID: <20040417232105.BHUI1832.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

 Nevermind. :( 

Susan H. 


I'm grouping and sorting a report on a date field. The grouping is by the
week -- but I want it to handle a changing first day of the week variable. I
can't get my head around it at all. 
 
Passing the first day of the week around is no problem -- I just can't seem
to get Access to group by it. I've looked at CreateGroupLevel, but I don't
see how that can help. 
 
I tried adding a DatePart expression to the Detail section and using the
OpenArgs property to pass the first day of the week, and while the
expression works, I can't group by it -- it's a calculated control. I don't
want the users manipulating the underlying query either. They choose the
first day of the week from a simple form and the rest needs to happen behind
the scenes. 
 
Any suggestions? 



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Apr 17 18:22:33 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 09:22:33 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040417224653.KZKB1818.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <408248D9.22694.F740E@localhost>

On 17 Apr 2004 at 18:46, Susan Harkins wrote:

> I'm grouping and sorting a report on a date field. The grouping is by the
> week -- but I want it to handle a changing first day of the week variable. I
> can't get my head around it at all. 
>  
> Passing the first day of the week around is no problem -- I just can't seem
> to get Access to group by it. I've looked at CreateGroupLevel, but I don't
> see how that can help. 
>  
> I tried adding a DatePart expression to the Detail section and using the
> OpenArgs property to pass the first day of the week, and while the
> expression works, I can't group by it -- it's a calculated control. I don't
> want the users manipulating the underlying query either. They choose the
> first day of the week from a simple form and the rest needs to happen behind
> the scenes. 
>  

You can group by a calculation.
Just put =Datepart("ww",mydate,myfirstday) in a grouping level.

 
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Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System 
Support.





From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sat Apr 17 19:15:58 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 20:15:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <408248D9.22694.F740E@localhost>
Message-ID: <20040418001559.IUSX1714.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I've got it grouping correctly now -- the problem was passing the first day
of the week variable to the report. I decided to use a function to pass it
to the query instead of the report.

When you say "grouping level" what do you mean? I tried a calculation with
GroupLevel and couldn't get it to work, but just might not have had the
syntax right in the statement. I need something flexible enough to allow me
to pass a new firstdayoftheweek value. Come to think of it, I didn't try
GroupOn -- and maybe that was what I needed. I will have to go back and try
that one again.  

Now, I just need to figure out how to get the first day of that week to
print in the group's header -- and it needs to be dynamic enough to handle
any day of the week as the first day of the week. 

If the date's Thursday, July 25, 1996 which falls in the 31st week of the
year where Wed is the first day of the week... how do I return Wednesday,
July 25, 1996? That's my problem. :) the expression has to adapt to any
firstdayoftheweek value, not just Wed.     

Susan H. 

On 17 Apr 2004 at 18:46, Susan Harkins wrote:

> I'm grouping and sorting a report on a date field. The grouping is by 
> the week -- but I want it to handle a changing first day of the week 
> variable. I can't get my head around it at all.
>  
> Passing the first day of the week around is no problem -- I just can't 
> seem to get Access to group by it. I've looked at CreateGroupLevel, 
> but I don't see how that can help.
>  
> I tried adding a DatePart expression to the Detail section and using 
> the OpenArgs property to pass the first day of the week, and while the 
> expression works, I can't group by it -- it's a calculated control. I 
> don't want the users manipulating the underlying query either. They 
> choose the first day of the week from a simple form and the rest needs 
> to happen behind the scenes.
>  

You can group by a calculation.
Just put =Datepart("ww",mydate,myfirstday) in a grouping level.

 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sat Apr 17 19:39:07 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 20:39:07 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040418001559.IUSX1714.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <20040418003907.JBDR1714.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

If the date's Thursday, July 25, 1996 which falls in the 31st week of the
year where Wed is the first day of the week... how do I return Wednesday,
July 25, 1996? That's my problem. :) the expression has to adapt to any
firstdayoftheweek value, not just Wed.     

==============Got this too now -- all's well. ;) 

Susan H. 



From demulling at centurytel.net  Sat Apr 17 21:58:44 2004
From: demulling at centurytel.net (Demulling Family)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 21:58:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Using TransferDatabase to link table from password
	protectd db
In-Reply-To: <407F56A3.7050805@shaw.ca>
References: <OFEAD4A8D1.CB964D3A-ON86256E77.006DCA7F-86256E77.006E2BCB@us.bank-dns.com>
	<407F56A3.7050805@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <4081EEE4.2070104@centurytel.net>

Marty,

Just tried the code you sent and it worked perfectly.  
THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sun Apr 18 01:44:20 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 23:44:20 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] About Manuals for  your databases X posted
Message-ID: <000001c42510$98fbcdc0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

How many of you right them?
 
Do you right users and developers manuals that explain your hows and
whys?
 
In my forms, I do things like make non-visible fields red and bold just
so they are easier to see if they are buried under other controls.
 
Just wondering
 
JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 


From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sun Apr 18 01:44:21 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 23:44:21 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040417232105.BHUI1832.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <000501c42510$9c99dc10$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

Glad to see I am not the only frustrated programmer on A Saturday
Afternoon.

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 4:21 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: FW: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report

 Nevermind. :( 

Susan H. 


I'm grouping and sorting a report on a date field. The grouping is by
the
week -- but I want it to handle a changing first day of the week
variable. I
can't get my head around it at all. 
 
Passing the first day of the week around is no problem -- I just can't
seem
to get Access to group by it. I've looked at CreateGroupLevel, but I
don't
see how that can help. 
 
I tried adding a DatePart expression to the Detail section and using the
OpenArgs property to pass the first day of the week, and while the
expression works, I can't group by it -- it's a calculated control. I
don't
want the users manipulating the underlying query either. They choose the
first day of the week from a simple form and the rest needs to happen
behind
the scenes. 
 
Any suggestions? 

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Apr 18 02:27:58 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 09:27:58 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] About Manuals for  your databases X posted
In-Reply-To: <000001c42510$98fbcdc0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
References: <000001c42510$98fbcdc0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <593513812.20040418092758@cactus.dk>

Hi Joe

> How many of you right them?

I write old fashioned help files only. They load extremely fast and
are quite easy to print out if a hardcopy is requested.
 
> Do you right users and developers manuals that explain your hows and
> whys?

For users only as part of a project description.
For developers (including myself!) only as in-line comments.
 
> In my forms, I do things like make non-visible fields red and bold just
> so they are easier to see if they are buried under other controls.

I use these background colours with black text:

  Yellow for invisible controls (mostly textboxes)

  Cyan for invisible controls for either future visible use or which
  previously have been visible (now invisible due to modifications of
  the form layout) and with a possible future use, though such
  controls must be tricky somehow, otherwise I just delete them.

  Green for invisible textboxes containing a function which needs to
  (and will) run when the form recalculates. These are rare.

  Magenta for invisible labels with comments or as pointers to
  controls hidden in design view by some larger controls.

/gustav



From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Sun Apr 18 07:23:54 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 08:23:54 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] About Manuals for  your databases X posted
References: <000001c42510$98fbcdc0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
	<593513812.20040418092758@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <000401c42540$03fccb90$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

gustav

...interesting ...I've always used naming conventions to manage distinctions
like this but can certainly see some value in using color ...I'm rebuilding
a major client app over the next few weeks and I think it would be a good
time to try this in my templates ...tks :)

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 3:27 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] About Manuals for your databases X posted


> Hi Joe
>
> > How many of you right them?
>
> I write old fashioned help files only. They load extremely fast and
> are quite easy to print out if a hardcopy is requested.
>
> > Do you right users and developers manuals that explain your hows and
> > whys?
>
> For users only as part of a project description.
> For developers (including myself!) only as in-line comments.
>
> > In my forms, I do things like make non-visible fields red and bold just
> > so they are easier to see if they are buried under other controls.
>
> I use these background colours with black text:
>
>   Yellow for invisible controls (mostly textboxes)
>
>   Cyan for invisible controls for either future visible use or which
>   previously have been visible (now invisible due to modifications of
>   the form layout) and with a possible future use, though such
>   controls must be tricky somehow, otherwise I just delete them.
>
>   Green for invisible textboxes containing a function which needs to
>   (and will) run when the form recalculates. These are rare.
>
>   Magenta for invisible labels with comments or as pointers to
>   controls hidden in design view by some larger controls.
>
> /gustav
>
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Apr 18 09:23:47 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 10:23:47 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <000501c42510$9c99dc10$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <20040418142347.GYRL1728.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I'm still not happy with the solution -- there's got to be an easier way. :)


Susan H. 


Glad to see I am not the only frustrated programmer on A Saturday Afternoon.




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Apr 18 10:44:37 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 11:44:37 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
Message-ID: <20040418154437.GAQR1779.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I'm writing about the ODE Calendar Control and I'm curious how many of you
use Calendar controls in your apps. 
 
I've had people complain about them -- they'd actually enter the dates
themselves because they find the break in their data entry routines annoying
-- from a data integrity point of view I can see the value of the controls
-- but how do you convince people to use them?
 
Susan H. 


From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Sun Apr 18 10:52:14 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 16:52:14 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
In-Reply-To: <20040418154437.GAQR1779.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <000001c4255d$1edb6ee0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

I don't use them for normal date entry, but I provide one on the app's
short-cut menu for when the customer feels the need.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Susan Harkins
> Sent: 18 April 2004 16:45
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
> 
> 
> I'm writing about the ODE Calendar Control and I'm curious 
> how many of you use Calendar controls in your apps. 
>  
> I've had people complain about them -- they'd actually enter 
> the dates themselves because they find the break in their 
> data entry routines annoying
> -- from a data integrity point of view I can see the value of 
> the controls
> -- but how do you convince people to use them?
>  
> Susan H. 
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From bhjohnson at pacbell.net  Sun Apr 18 10:52:27 2004
From: bhjohnson at pacbell.net (Bruce H. Johnson)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 08:52:27 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
In-Reply-To: <20040418154437.GAQR1779.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <20040418154437.GAQR1779.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <4082A43B.8070406@pacbell.net>

Suggest you have both the control and the straight data entry available. 
I've found that straight date entry is fine if the user knows the date, 
but the control is very handy to enter the "first Tuesday in February" - 
type dates; otherwise they'll have to dig up a calendar.

Susan Harkins wrote:

>I'm writing about the ODE Calendar Control and I'm curious how many of you
>use Calendar controls in your apps. 
> 
>I've had people complain about them -- they'd actually enter the dates
>themselves because they find the break in their data entry routines annoying
>-- from a data integrity point of view I can see the value of the controls
>-- but how do you convince people to use them?
> 
>Susan H. 
>  
>



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Apr 18 11:07:27 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 12:07:27 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
In-Reply-To: <4082A43B.8070406@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <20040418160727.DWEY1773.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Well that's a good suggestion -- I hadn't really thought of that. :) 

Susan H. 

Suggest you have both the control and the straight data entry available. 
I've found that straight date entry is fine if the user knows the date, but
the control is very handy to enter the "first Tuesday in February" - type
dates; otherwise they'll have to dig up a calendar.




From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Apr 18 11:35:50 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 09:35:50 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
In-Reply-To: <20040418154437.GAQR1779.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIIEMDCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Susan:

I tend to add a button accessing a popup calendar, beside each date entry
field. The user is then given the choice, direct entry or selecting from a
mini calendar.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 8:45 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion


I'm writing about the ODE Calendar Control and I'm curious how many of you
use Calendar controls in your apps.

I've had people complain about them -- they'd actually enter the dates
themselves because they find the break in their data entry routines annoying
-- from a data integrity point of view I can see the value of the controls
-- but how do you convince people to use them?

Susan H.
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From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Sun Apr 18 11:42:00 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 12:42:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
References: <20040418154437.GAQR1779.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <000c01c42564$12270180$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...first ...I don't use the ODE Calendar Control because of a long history
of versioning problems ...even when you wrap it in a class you're app is
still vulnerable ...besides it being slow ...I use a modified version of
Drew's old mini-calendar which is all VBA, dead reliable, and very fast.

...second (this has been discussed here recently but under another thread
topic) ...I much prefer data integrity over speed but its not necessary to
sacrifice one for the other ...I always force user date entry from a pop-up
calendar ...the calendar pops-up at the bottom right of the text box with
the current date defaulted ...if the current date is what is required ...a
dblclick gets the date entered and tabs to the next control ...if not, the
cal responds to either mouse (slow) or keyboard (fast) for date selection.

...purists will try and tell you that such an approach slows keyboarders
down and they won't accept it ...I disagree ...once the keyboarders get used
to the keyboard strokes that control the cal it is in most cases just as
fast as them entering it directly ...BUT ...big one ...the forced calendar
usage eliminates most date errors from users who enter/read dates
differently ...and the difference between error/dirty data correction time
and getting it right the first time weighs heavily in favor of using a cal
control over straight user date entry.

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 11:44 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion


> I'm writing about the ODE Calendar Control and I'm curious how many of you
> use Calendar controls in your apps.
>
> I've had people complain about them -- they'd actually enter the dates
> themselves because they find the break in their data entry routines
annoying
> -- from a data integrity point of view I can see the value of the controls
> -- but how do you convince people to use them?
>
> Susan H.
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Apr 18 11:48:29 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 12:48:29 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
In-Reply-To: <000c01c42564$12270180$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
Message-ID: <20040418164829.INUT1728.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

...first ...I don't use the ODE Calendar Control because of a long history
of versioning problems 

===========I'm limited -- I write about what they want. :) So, when you
complain of versioning problems, what do you mean?

Susan H. 



From gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Apr 18 11:59:33 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 18:59:33 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040418142347.GYRL1728.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <20040418142347.GYRL1728.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <1661080363.20040418185933@cactus.dk>

Hi Susan

> I'm still not happy with the solution -- there's got to be an easier way. :)

Maybe. What solution did you settle on?

/gustav



From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Sun Apr 18 12:11:53 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 13:11:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
References: <20040418164829.INUT1728.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <002301c42568$3ec91ad0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...I've not used the native cal for years ...but there was a period of time
with A95/97 that MS changed the way the calendar worked between a number of
versions and didn't maintain reverse compatibility ...depending upon which
version of the control your users had installed your app might or might not
work, a very common problem back then with all ActiveX controls (I don't use
any 3rd party ActiveX controls for the same reason) ...so I switched to a
vba based one and never looked back ...and no, I can't tell you the problems
have or have not been resolved ...I'm happy with my calendar ...its been
tweaked to work exactly the way I want it to :)

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 12:48 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion


> ...first ...I don't use the ODE Calendar Control because of a long history
> of versioning problems
>
> ===========I'm limited -- I write about what they want. :) So, when you
> complain of versioning problems, what do you mean?
>
> Susan H.
>
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Apr 18 12:41:30 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 13:41:30 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] ODE HElp problem
Message-ID: <20040418174130.YNQF1810.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I just installed Office XP Developer and the Help files don't work -- the
interface is there and the toc is there -- but it isn't connecting and every
subject returns a page not found error. 
 
I don't even know where to begin to start. Anyone else had this happen?
 
Susan H. 


From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Apr 18 12:52:24 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 13:52:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <1661080363.20040418185933@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20040418175224.YQKA1810.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Well, it's clunky -- 

1.) User selects the first day of the week from a list of Sunday through
Saturday. 
2.) User clicks a command button that opens the report and sends the above
selected value via the OpenArgs argument. 
3.) The report is based on a query that calls a function that uses the value
selected in #1 to return a weekday value for each date.
4.) The report's grouping is first set to year. The second level groups on
the weekday value returned by #3. And, a third sorting level simply sorts
the date values so it all comes out in the wash. 
5.) The group header contains a value that uses the openargs value in a
DatePart expression to return the first day of the week for each group. 

You can use the report without the form and it will default to a
firstdayoftheweek value of 1 -- to avoid errors and to make it easier to use
the report without going through the form -- that way you could set the
default to anything and the user could just open the report. 

Seems like it ought to be easier than that though -- just too much going on.


#3's the one I don't really like. Seems like I ought to be able to get that
weekday number in the report, and although I can -- I can't sort by it.
Someone mentioned yesterday that you could group on a calculation, but I've
not figured that one out yet. I tried setting it using the GroupLevel and
GroupOn properties, but never got it to work -- not saying it won't, just I
wasn't successful. I didn't spend much time on it though. My understanding
of the GroupOn property is that it needs to refer to a specific integer
value that represents the built-in levels (Month, Year, Quarter, and so on).
I never could get it to accept a DatePart expression. 

Susan H.  

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 1:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report

Hi Susan

> I'm still not happy with the solution -- there's got to be an easier 
> way. :)

Maybe. What solution did you settle on?

/gustav

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Apr 18 13:43:07 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 11:43:07 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A summary of the great Open Source discussion
In-Reply-To: <000001c4255d$1edb6ee0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIEEMFCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi All:

A couple of weeks ago, there was an Open Source debate encapsulated much of
the points of view that have been argued for years. I was so impressed, with
the conciseness and objectiveness of the discussion that I decided to put
the results in a single page and post the summary to the DBA web site. You
can get access to the page through a link off the main page
www.databaseadvisors.com. (If your browser saves pages you may have to press
reset/reload to view the current layout.)

Thank you all for your contributions, Susan Harkin, who started the whole
thing, Stuart McLachlan, Bryan Carbonnell, Francisco H Tapia, Bruce Bruen,
Bob Hall, Drew Wutka, Marty Connelly and Arthur Fuller.

If there is anyone I overlooked or comments I missed, send me a note and you
will be appropriately accommodated.

Again, thanks to all.
Jim



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Apr 18 14:48:33 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 12:48:33 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
References: <20040418164829.INUT1728.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
	<002301c42568$3ec91ad0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
Message-ID: <00df01c4257e$2230ff80$6601a8c0@HAL9002>


I use the ADH calendar and trigger it on the double-click of any date text
box.  So they can still hand enter the date if they want.  Users seem to
like the convention once they get used to it.

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 12:48 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
>
>
> > ...first ...I don't use the ODE Calendar Control because of a long
history
> > of versioning problems
> >
> > ===========I'm limited -- I write about what they want. :) So, when you
> > complain of versioning problems, what do you mean?
> >
> > Susan H.
> >
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Apr 18 14:53:29 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 12:53:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] About Manuals for  your databases X posted
References: <000001c42510$98fbcdc0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <00f701c4257e$d2a17480$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Joe:

I wrote a manual for the manufacturing system last year.  Just about
committed suicide but got it done.  For a product I think you need one.  But
for a one-shot app I never write them.

I tried to be consistent about the headings so that I could do an automatic
table of contents and that worked out pretty well.  And a different style
for the figures and tables so I could auto-produce a list of figures as
well.

Haven't done an index, however.

I'd be glad to send you a copy off-line if it would be useful to you.

HTH

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Hecht" <jmhla at earthlink.net>
To: "'ACCESS-L'" <ACCESS-L at PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM>; "AccessD"
<AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 11:44 PM
Subject: [AccessD] About Manuals for your databases X posted


> How many of you right them?
>
> Do you right users and developers manuals that explain your hows and
> whys?
>
> In my forms, I do things like make non-visible fields red and bold just
> so they are easier to see if they are buried under other controls.
>
> Just wondering
>
> JOE HECHT
> LOS ANGELES CA
>
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From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Sun Apr 18 14:57:53 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 15:57:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
In-Reply-To: <00df01c4257e$2230ff80$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <4082A581.7252.F87E02@localhost>

On 18 Apr 2004 at 12:48, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access S wrote:

> I use the ADH calendar and trigger it on the double-click of any date
> text box.  So they can still hand enter the date if they want.  Users
> seem to like the convention once they get used to it.

I use the ADH one too. I actually place a button right beside the 
textbox so that the calendar can be opened without taking your hands 
off the keyboard.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
Don't take life too seriously. You won't get out alive.




From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Apr 18 16:11:22 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 14:11:22 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
References: <4082A581.7252.F87E02@localhost>
Message-ID: <015b01c42589$b3bde390$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Bryan:

So is that button the next control in the tab sequence after the text box
which would contain a date so the user can then TAB to it and press Enter?

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at sympatico.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion


> On 18 Apr 2004 at 12:48, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access S wrote:
>
> > I use the ADH calendar and trigger it on the double-click of any date
> > text box.  So they can still hand enter the date if they want.  Users
> > seem to like the convention once they get used to it.
>
> I use the ADH one too. I actually place a button right beside the
> textbox so that the calendar can be opened without taking your hands
> off the keyboard.
>
> -- 
> Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
> Don't take life too seriously. You won't get out alive.
>
>
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From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Sun Apr 18 16:27:00 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 17:27:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
In-Reply-To: <015b01c42589$b3bde390$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <4082BA64.21526.14A13BF@localhost>

On 18 Apr 2004 at 14:11, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access S wrote:

> So is that button the next control in the tab sequence after the text
> box which would contain a date so the user can then TAB to it and
> press Enter?

I'm not sure if enter works, I always use the space bar to activate 
the button, but yes that's the concept.

The button is the next item in the tab order. The user would press 
space/enter and the calendar form opens, or they can just tab through 
the button if they type the date manually.

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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Sun Apr 18 17:00:43 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 23:00:43 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
In-Reply-To: <000c01c42564$12270180$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
Message-ID: <000601c42590$98900470$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

> I use a modified version of Drew's old mini-calendar which is all VBA,
dead reliable, and very fast.
Ditto (and thanks to Drew)

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> William Hindman
> Sent: 18 April 2004 17:42
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
> 
> 
> ...first ...I don't use the ODE Calendar Control because of a 
> long history of versioning problems ...even when you wrap it 
> in a class you're app is still vulnerable ...besides it being 
> slow ...I use a modified version of Drew's old mini-calendar 
> which is all VBA, dead reliable, and very fast.
> 
> ...second (this has been discussed here recently but under 
> another thread
> topic) ...I much prefer data integrity over speed but its not 
> necessary to sacrifice one for the other ...I always force 
> user date entry from a pop-up calendar ...the calendar 
> pops-up at the bottom right of the text box with the current 
> date defaulted ...if the current date is what is required 
> ...a dblclick gets the date entered and tabs to the next 
> control ...if not, the cal responds to either mouse (slow) or 
> keyboard (fast) for date selection.
> 
> ...purists will try and tell you that such an approach slows 
> keyboarders down and they won't accept it ...I disagree 
> ...once the keyboarders get used to the keyboard strokes that 
> control the cal it is in most cases just as fast as them 
> entering it directly ...BUT ...big one ...the forced calendar 
> usage eliminates most date errors from users who enter/read 
> dates differently ...and the difference between error/dirty 
> data correction time and getting it right the first time 
> weighs heavily in favor of using a cal control over straight 
> user date entry.
> 
> William Hindman
> "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing 
> your code is a violent psychopath who knows where you live." 
> William Silverstein
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 11:44 AM
> Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
> 
> 
> > I'm writing about the ODE Calendar Control and I'm curious 
> how many of 
> > you use Calendar controls in your apps.
> >
> > I've had people complain about them -- they'd actually 
> enter the dates 
> > themselves because they find the break in their data entry routines
> annoying
> > -- from a data integrity point of view I can see the value of the 
> > controls
> > -- but how do you convince people to use them?
> >
> > Susan H.
> > --
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From pedro at plex.nl  Sun Apr 18 17:17:55 2004
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 00:17:55 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] error in code
Message-ID: <000801c42593$219ec510$f4c581d5@pedro>

Hello Group,

why isn't this part of a code not working

for i  = 1 To 9
If "chb" & i & "c31") = True Then
    .Item("Code" & i).Value = "**     geen code"
End If
Next i

the error is:  Error 13, Description:  Type Mismatch


TIA

Pedro Janssen




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Apr 18 17:41:41 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 18:41:41 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] error in code
In-Reply-To: <000801c42593$219ec510$f4c581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <20040418224141.TSEN1714.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

 
for i  = 1 To 9
If "chb" & i & "c31") = True Then

Your condition is never going to equal true -- but rather a cancatenated
string. Although, I think the code's missing soemthing -- you've got a )
that doesn't make sense in its position, but I suspect that's just a typo
and probably isn't your actual error is it?

Susan H. 



From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Sun Apr 18 17:46:46 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 18:46:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] error in code
In-Reply-To: <000801c42593$219ec510$f4c581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <4082CD16.31909.1931CA1@localhost>

On 19 Apr 2004 at 0:17, Pedro Janssen wrote:

> why isn't this part of a code not working
> 
> for i  = 1 To 9
> If "chb" & i & "c31") = True Then
>     .Item("Code" & i).Value = "**     geen code"
> End If
> Next i

Pedro,

I am assuming that chb* are checkboxes. If so, try:

If me.controls("chb" & i & "c31") = True Then

You also have a closing ) on the ofiginal If Then line.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
I am a nobody, and nobody is perfect; therefore, I am perfect.




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Apr 18 18:52:42 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 09:52:42 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] error in code
In-Reply-To: <000801c42593$219ec510$f4c581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <4083A16A.23848.32CE49@localhost>

On 19 Apr 2004 at 0:17, Pedro Janssen wrote:

> Hello Group,
> 
> why isn't this part of a code not working
> 
> for i  = 1 To 9
> If "chb" & i & "c31") = True Then
>     .Item("Code" & i).Value = "**     geen code"
> End If
> Next i
> 
> the error is:  Error 13, Description:  Type Mismatch
> 

Apart from the problems mentioned by others (the missing "(",  the 
missing "me.controls" or "." before "chb1"),  this will result in 
spaces in your control names ie "chb 1c31" to "chb 9c31" and "Code 1" 
to "Code 9"

UNless you do have spaces in the control names, you need to use 
Format(i) or similar to get rid of the leading space.



 
-- 
Lexacorp Ltd
http://www.lexacorp.com.pg
Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System 
Support.





From MPorter at acsalaska.com  Sun Apr 18 18:42:33 2004
From: MPorter at acsalaska.com (Porter, Mark)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 15:42:33 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] About Manuals for  your databases X posted
Message-ID: <BFBC9BAC6169D411890000508BAE2C5304246E84@acsexch4.corp.acsalaska.com>

I charge the same hourly rate for documentation as I do for coding.

Then I strongly suggest that they produce their own.  I've never been asked to produce documentation (user docs) yet.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhla at earthlink.net]
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 10:44 PM
To: 'ACCESS-L'; AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] About Manuals for your databases X posted


How many of you right them?
 
Do you right users and developers manuals that explain your hows and
whys?
 
In my forms, I do things like make non-visible fields red and bold just
so they are easier to see if they are buried under other controls.
 
Just wondering
 
JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 
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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 19 03:44:05 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 01:44:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Error 3265. Item not found in this collection?!!?
Message-ID: <20040419084405.36072.qmail@web61105.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi group,
 
a user reported an error. The error message displayed the following info:
Source: DAO.Fields
Number: 3265
Description: Item not found in this collection
Call Stack: Switchdatabase.Message_Check_GAS.Check1015
                 Switchdatabase.Form_frm_GAS_GENERATE.cmdGenerate_Click
 
The line that causes the error is (see code below for details): 
rv = MsgBox("Duplicate value!! Delete original record?" & vbCr _
               , vbYesNo, "Answer question")
 
WHY does this occur?
The user is using Win NT. The error does NOT occur on Win2000. We never had this problem before, not on NT and not on Win2000.
 
Please advise!
 
TIA

Sander
 
This is the code that caused the problem:
 
Public Function Check_1015(msgtype As String) As String
   Dim Status As String
   Dim rs, rsb As Recordset
   Dim db As Database
   Dim teller, i As Long
   Dim rv As String
 
   On Error GoTo Check_1015_Error
 
   Status = "Ok"
   If msgtype = "I" Then
...
...
      Set rsb = db.OpenRecordset("Select * from V4_GAS_Bronbestand_Verhuizingen where connect_EAN = '" & rs!Connect_EAN & "'", dbReadOnly)
      If rsb.EOF = False Then
         rv = MsgBox("Duplicate value!! Delete original record?" & vbCr _
               , vbYesNo, "Answer question")
....
 
 
 

		
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Apr 19 04:11:01 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 11:11:01 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040418175224.YQKA1810.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <20040418175224.YQKA1810.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <1918237935.20040419111101@cactus.dk>

Hi Susan

Your method looks longwinded but not weird. If it works fast and
well I would leave it, though I'm sure another method could be found
where you adjust the grouping in the report directly.

/gustav


> Well, it's clunky -- 

> 1.) User selects the first day of the week from a list of Sunday through
> Saturday. 
> 2.) User clicks a command button that opens the report and sends the above
> selected value via the OpenArgs argument. 
> 3.) The report is based on a query that calls a function that uses the value
> selected in #1 to return a weekday value for each date.
> 4.) The report's grouping is first set to year. The second level groups on
> the weekday value returned by #3. And, a third sorting level simply sorts
> the date values so it all comes out in the wash. 
> 5.) The group header contains a value that uses the openargs value in a
> DatePart expression to return the first day of the week for each group. 

> You can use the report without the form and it will default to a
> firstdayoftheweek value of 1 -- to avoid errors and to make it easier to use
> the report without going through the form -- that way you could set the
> default to anything and the user could just open the report. 

> Seems like it ought to be easier than that though -- just too much going on.


> #3's the one I don't really like. Seems like I ought to be able to get that
> weekday number in the report, and although I can -- I can't sort by it.
> Someone mentioned yesterday that you could group on a calculation, but I've
> not figured that one out yet. I tried setting it using the GroupLevel and
> GroupOn properties, but never got it to work -- not saying it won't, just I
> wasn't successful. I didn't spend much time on it though. My understanding
> of the GroupOn property is that it needs to refer to a specific integer
> value that represents the built-in levels (Month, Year, Quarter, and so on).
> I never could get it to accept a DatePart expression. 

> Susan H.  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 1:00 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report

> Hi Susan

>> I'm still not happy with the solution -- there's got to be an easier 
>> way. :)

> Maybe. What solution did you settle on?

> /gustav



From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 19 04:34:38 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 02:34:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Error 3265. Item not found in this collection?!!?
	<SOLVED>
In-Reply-To: <20040419084405.36072.qmail@web61105.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20040419093438.7994.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi group,
 
I found the freaking error. This app is sooooo buggy! There was a reference (not displayed in the code below) to a field called  Net_op_EAN...the CORRECT field name is NetOp_Ean. 
 
Question: "Has this functionality EVER worked before?" (this is a standard question for this app :-(
User response: "Yes, we use this functionality on a daily basis!"

Yeah right: Tables are empty, log is empty and output directory is empty.
 
Grrrr. Anyway its job that pays the bills.
 
Sander

S D <accessd667 at yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi group,

a user reported an error. The error message displayed the following info:
Source: DAO.Fields
Number: 3265
Description: Item not found in this collection
Call Stack: Switchdatabase.Message_Check_GAS.Check1015
Switchdatabase.Form_frm_GAS_GENERATE.cmdGenerate_Click

The line that causes the error is (see code below for details): 
rv = MsgBox("Duplicate value!! Delete original record?" & vbCr _
, vbYesNo, "Answer question")

WHY does this occur?
The user is using Win NT. The error does NOT occur on Win2000. We never had this problem before, not on NT and not on Win2000.

Please advise!

TIA

Sander

This is the code that caused the problem:

Public Function Check_1015(msgtype As String) As String
Dim Status As String
Dim rs, rsb As Recordset
Dim db As Database
Dim teller, i As Long
Dim rv As String

On Error GoTo Check_1015_Error

Status = "Ok"
If msgtype = "I" Then
...
...
Set rsb = db.OpenRecordset("Select * from V4_GAS_Bronbestand_Verhuizingen where connect_EAN = '" & rs!Connect_EAN & "'", dbReadOnly)
If rsb.EOF = False Then
rv = MsgBox("Duplicate value!! Delete original record?" & vbCr _
, vbYesNo, "Answer question")
....





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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Sun Apr 18 23:53:33 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:53:33 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
References: <20040418154437.GAQR1779.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <00c001c42608$f7e59a70$0b669a89@DDICK>

I give 'em both. Both straight data entry and a calendar
They can do data entry straight into the control or double click to get a VBA only calendar.
(Won't touch the OCX ones anymore)
I also have a small popup that provides some of the basic date ranges
IE 1st or 2nd or 3rd etc quarter of current or last year
All Year, all last year. This month, last month, Last week this week,
Next week, next month, today etc. 
All available with checkboxes.
Click a check and the dates are determined and results put into 
txtStartDate and txtEndDate controls

Works a treat

HTH

Darren

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:44 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion


> I'm writing about the ODE Calendar Control and I'm curious how many of you
> use Calendar controls in your apps. 
>  
> I've had people complain about them -- they'd actually enter the dates
> themselves because they find the break in their data entry routines annoying
> -- from a data integrity point of view I can see the value of the controls
> -- but how do you convince people to use them?
>  
> Susan H. 
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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Mon Apr 19 08:20:00 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 08:20:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Changing the table in a query so I can loop
 through	thequery
In-Reply-To: <200404181700.i3IH0MB27564@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040419081850.02b22e48@pop3.highstream.net>

Susan,

If you have 71 identical tables, you have a design problem.  Why do you 
need 71 tables with the same information?

Robert

At 12:00 PM 4/18/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 16:59:29 -0400
>From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Changing the table in a query so I can loop
>         through thequery
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID:
>         <20040417205929.PLEB1773.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net at SUSANONE>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="US-ASCII"
>
>I'm sorry, not an UPDATE, but a SQL INSERT INTO
>
>Susan H.
>
>I have an append query that can work for 71 tables.  I want to create a for
>next loop function that will substitute the table names (they are numbers)
>each time it loops.  Can someone help me?  I do not quite have the query def
>thing down and I think I need to use it here.  Each table has the same
>fields.




From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Apr 19 08:31:36 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 08:31:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] About Manuals for  your databases X posted
In-Reply-To: <8653173.1082270888748.JavaMail.root@sniper4.usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <001601c42612$a3831480$de1811d8@danwaters>

I write a manual for every process module.  Managers want them available,
and I want to be able to refer to the manual instead of being told that they
can't figure it out.  I write a Word document that contains all the detail a
user would need.  The module contains a Manual hyperlink button so it can be
pulled up at any time.  The manuals are typically 10 - 25 pages long.

I also use the manual as a QC tool for myself.  As I write it, I double
check the system to be sure it does just what the manual says.  

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 1:44 AM
To: 'ACCESS-L'; AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] About Manuals for your databases X posted

How many of you right them?
 
Do you right users and developers manuals that explain your hows and
whys?
 
In my forms, I do things like make non-visible fields red and bold just
so they are easier to see if they are buried under other controls.
 
Just wondering
 
JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Mon Apr 19 08:45:57 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 09:45:57 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <1918237935.20040419111101@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20040419134556.DMSZ1832.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

That's what I'd rather do, simply because it leaves fewer holes. 

Susan H. 

Hi Susan

Your method looks longwinded but not weird. If it works fast and well I
would leave it, though I'm sure another method could be found where you
adjust the grouping in the report directly.

/gustav


> Well, it's clunky --

> 1.) User selects the first day of the week from a list of Sunday 
> through Saturday.
> 2.) User clicks a command button that opens the report and sends the 
> above selected value via the OpenArgs argument.
> 3.) The report is based on a query that calls a function that uses the 
> value selected in #1 to return a weekday value for each date.
> 4.) The report's grouping is first set to year. The second level 
> groups on the weekday value returned by #3. And, a third sorting level 
> simply sorts the date values so it all comes out in the wash.
> 5.) The group header contains a value that uses the openargs value in 
> a DatePart expression to return the first day of the week for each group.

> You can use the report without the form and it will default to a 
> firstdayoftheweek value of 1 -- to avoid errors and to make it easier 
> to use the report without going through the form -- that way you could 
> set the default to anything and the user could just open the report.

> Seems like it ought to be easier than that though -- just too much going
on.


> #3's the one I don't really like. Seems like I ought to be able to get 
> that weekday number in the report, and although I can -- I can't sort by
it.
> Someone mentioned yesterday that you could group on a calculation, but 
> I've not figured that one out yet. I tried setting it using the 
> GroupLevel and GroupOn properties, but never got it to work -- not 
> saying it won't, just I wasn't successful. I didn't spend much time on 
> it though. My understanding of the GroupOn property is that it needs 
> to refer to a specific integer value that represents the built-in levels
(Month, Year, Quarter, and so on).
> I never could get it to accept a DatePart expression. 

> Susan H.  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav 
> Brock
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 1:00 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report

> Hi Susan

>> I'm still not happy with the solution -- there's got to be an easier 
>> way. :)

> Maybe. What solution did you settle on?

> /gustav

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Apr 19 09:04:56 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 16:04:56 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040419134556.DMSZ1832.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <20040419134556.DMSZ1832.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <12825873634.20040419160456@cactus.dk>

Hi Susan

Then, in the report, can't you sort and group by

=Weekday(YourDate, [YourSelectedFirstWeekday])

/gustav


> That's what I'd rather do, simply because it leaves fewer holes. 

> Susan H. 

> Hi Susan

> Your method looks longwinded but not weird. If it works fast and well I
> would leave it, though I'm sure another method could be found where you
> adjust the grouping in the report directly.



From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Mon Apr 19 09:42:19 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 09:42:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox content
	s
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227ADF@main2.marlow.com>

Did you try 'First'?

Again, it is going to be dependant on how Access actually 'sees' the data.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 7:12 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox
contents


Thanks, Drew and Gustav for responding.
I tried Max, but sometimes the ID I need is in the middle of the IDs.
I didn't think about using Top, I'll try that.

thanks again.
Jim 



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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 4:42 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox
contents


Hi Jim

> I have a list box with over 130 items all rows are distinct but a few
columns are duplicates.  The ListBox is sorted on two text fields which puts
the ID number out of sequence.  The ComboBox sorts
> and "Groups By" duplicate columns.  What I want to do is use the ComboBox
to jump to the first instance of one of the duplicate columns.

> e.g.

> ID      CourseName      City
> 135     CCP             EC
> 90      DIS             EC
> 87      DIS             MP
> 18      DOC             CD
> 17      DOC             SR
> 55      DSC M           AL
> 57      DSC M           EC
> 43      DSC M           MP
> 28      DSC M           SF
> 3       DSC M           SR

> What I want is:
> 135     CCP             EC
> 90      DIS             EC
> 18      DOC             CD
> 55      DSC M           AL
> 3       DSC M           SR

> What I get is:
> 135     CCP             EC
> 87      DIS             MP
> 17      DOC             SR
> 3       DSC M           SR

> What needs to be done to what the desired results?

As Drew notes, you'll have to pick the sorted values for ID and City
for each CourseName.
Two subqueries can be used for this:

<SQL>

  SELECT
    (SELECT
        TOP 1 ID
      FROM
        tblCourses AS aliC
      WHERE
        aliC.CourseName = tblCourses.CourseName
      ORDER BY
        City,
        ID DESC;) AS TopID,
    CourseName,
    (SELECT
        TOP 1 City
      FROM
        tblCourses AS aliC
      WHERE
        aliC.CourseName = tblCourses.CourseName
      ORDER BY
        City,
        ID DESC;) AS TopCity
  FROM
    tblCourses
  GROUP BY
    CourseName;

</SQL>

Have fun!

/gustav

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Mon Apr 19 09:47:47 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 09:47:47 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227AE0@main2.marlow.com>

You're quite welcome.  As soon as life settles down, I'll finish up the new
version.  Which is keyboard friendly too!

Drew

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Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 5:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion


> I use a modified version of Drew's old mini-calendar which is all VBA,
dead reliable, and very fast.
Ditto (and thanks to Drew)

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 


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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> William Hindman
> Sent: 18 April 2004 17:42
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
> 
> 
> ...first ...I don't use the ODE Calendar Control because of a 
> long history of versioning problems ...even when you wrap it 
> in a class you're app is still vulnerable ...besides it being 
> slow ...I use a modified version of Drew's old mini-calendar 
> which is all VBA, dead reliable, and very fast.
> 
> ...second (this has been discussed here recently but under 
> another thread
> topic) ...I much prefer data integrity over speed but its not 
> necessary to sacrifice one for the other ...I always force 
> user date entry from a pop-up calendar ...the calendar 
> pops-up at the bottom right of the text box with the current 
> date defaulted ...if the current date is what is required 
> ...a dblclick gets the date entered and tabs to the next 
> control ...if not, the cal responds to either mouse (slow) or 
> keyboard (fast) for date selection.
> 
> ...purists will try and tell you that such an approach slows 
> keyboarders down and they won't accept it ...I disagree 
> ...once the keyboarders get used to the keyboard strokes that 
> control the cal it is in most cases just as fast as them 
> entering it directly ...BUT ...big one ...the forced calendar 
> usage eliminates most date errors from users who enter/read 
> dates differently ...and the difference between error/dirty 
> data correction time and getting it right the first time 
> weighs heavily in favor of using a cal control over straight 
> user date entry.
> 
> William Hindman
> "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing 
> your code is a violent psychopath who knows where you live." 
> William Silverstein
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 11:44 AM
> Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
> 
> 
> > I'm writing about the ODE Calendar Control and I'm curious 
> how many of 
> > you use Calendar controls in your apps.
> >
> > I've had people complain about them -- they'd actually 
> enter the dates 
> > themselves because they find the break in their data entry routines
> annoying
> > -- from a data integrity point of view I can see the value of the 
> > controls
> > -- but how do you convince people to use them?
> >
> > Susan H.
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Apr 19 10:50:40 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 08:50:40 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] About Manuals for  your databases X posted
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312729@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I do NOT write developer manuals, although I do create user help files.
Any developer notes are in the  comments in code, but those are for me,
not for other developers ... Unless I step in front of a bus. <VBG>

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhla at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 10:44 PM
To: 'ACCESS-L'; AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] About Manuals for your databases X posted


How many of you right them?
 
Do you right users and developers manuals that explain your hows and
whys?
 
In my forms, I do things like make non-visible fields red and bold just
so they are easier to see if they are buried under other controls.
 
Just wondering
 
JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 
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From Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us  Mon Apr 19 11:28:21 2004
From: Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us (O'Connor, Patricia  )
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:28:21 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
Message-ID: <B94C79B465542042AB0748EAF37F9AC024A6BC@EXCNYSM0A1AB.nysemail.nyenet>

Rocky,

We use printkey 2000 (full). It allows us to print the entire screen,
the active window, crop, cut, then copy/paste stuff into word documents,
powerpoint, emails, etc.

Patti
 

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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 04:31 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
> 
> Dear List:
> 
> A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they 
> would like it to be 300dpi.
> 
> What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?
> 
> MTIA,
> 
> Rocky Smolin
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> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Mon Apr 19 12:17:12 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 13:17:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <12825873634.20040419160456@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20040419171712.BQCJ1779.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Gustav, I've not been able to sort by a calculated control -- wait... I
think I've been doing it wrong -- duh... <hangs head> I'm SUCH a user... ;) 

If I'm right, I'll let ya know. :) 

Susan  H. 

Hi Susan

Then, in the report, can't you sort and group by

=Weekday(YourDate, [YourSelectedFirstWeekday])

/gustav


> That's what I'd rather do, simply because it leaves fewer holes. 

> Susan H. 

> Hi Susan

> Your method looks longwinded but not weird. If it works fast and well 
> I would leave it, though I'm sure another method could be found where 
> you adjust the grouping in the report directly.

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From KIsmert at TexasSystems.com  Mon Apr 19 12:19:09 2004
From: KIsmert at TexasSystems.com (Ken Ismert)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:19:09 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Changing the table in a query so I can
	loopthrough	thequery
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040419081850.02b22e48@pop3.highstream.net>
Message-ID: <005401c42632$6d9702d0$2a3ca8c0@TEXASSYSTEMS.COM>


Well, I've been shepherding a db with almost 140 identical tables. Maybe
twice the design problem? I inherited it three years ago, and it soon became
clear that the cost to redo it 'properly' was too high. Perhaps in another
three years the opportunity will present itself.

-Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert L. Stewart [mailto:rl_stewart at highstream.net]
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 8:20 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Changing the table in a query so I can
loopthrough thequery


Susan,

If you have 71 identical tables, you have a design problem.  Why do you
need 71 tables with the same information?

Robert



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Mon Apr 19 12:28:13 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 13:28:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040419171712.BQCJ1779.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <20040419172813.BWTB1779.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Well, checked again -- unless I'm just missing something, I don't know how
to group/sort by a calculated control within the report itself.

Susan H.   

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report

Gustav, I've not been able to sort by a calculated control -- wait... I
think I've been doing it wrong -- duh... <hangs head> I'm SUCH a user... ;) 

If I'm right, I'll let ya know. :) 

Susan  H. 

Hi Susan

Then, in the report, can't you sort and group by

=Weekday(YourDate, [YourSelectedFirstWeekday])

/gustav


> That's what I'd rather do, simply because it leaves fewer holes. 

> Susan H. 

> Hi Susan

> Your method looks longwinded but not weird. If it works fast and well 
> I would leave it, though I'm sure another method could be found where 
> you adjust the grouping in the report directly.

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From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Mon Apr 19 12:46:47 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 13:46:47 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
References: <20040419171712.BQCJ1779.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <007001c42636$497dd7d0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

"I'm SUCH a user" Susan

...LOL!!! ...great line!!!

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


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From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:17 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


> Gustav, I've not been able to sort by a calculated control -- wait... I
> think I've been doing it wrong -- duh... <hangs head> I'm SUCH a user...
;)
>
> If I'm right, I'll let ya know. :)
>
> Susan  H.
>
> Hi Susan
>
> Then, in the report, can't you sort and group by
>
> =Weekday(YourDate, [YourSelectedFirstWeekday])
>
> /gustav
>
>
> > That's what I'd rather do, simply because it leaves fewer holes.
>
> > Susan H.
>
> > Hi Susan
>
> > Your method looks longwinded but not weird. If it works fast and well
> > I would leave it, though I'm sure another method could be found where
> > you adjust the grouping in the report directly.
>
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Apr 19 13:26:58 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 11:26:58 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8631272A@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Susan,

You sort/group on a calculated expression by entering that expression in
the grouping and sorting dialog

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 9:28 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


Well, checked again -- unless I'm just missing something, I don't know
how to group/sort by a calculated control within the report itself.

Susan H.   

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report

Gustav, I've not been able to sort by a calculated control -- wait... I
think I've been doing it wrong -- duh... <hangs head> I'm SUCH a user...
;) 

If I'm right, I'll let ya know. :) 

Susan  H. 

Hi Susan

Then, in the report, can't you sort and group by

=Weekday(YourDate, [YourSelectedFirstWeekday])

/gustav


> That's what I'd rather do, simply because it leaves fewer holes.

> Susan H.

> Hi Susan

> Your method looks longwinded but not weird. If it works fast and well
> I would leave it, though I'm sure another method could be found where 
> you adjust the grouping in the report directly.

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Mon Apr 19 14:20:38 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 15:20:38 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8631272A@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <20040419192038.LOVX1778.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

But I've tried and it won't take it. The OpenArgs argument passes the value
I use in all of the date functions. If I refer to is as a variable 

=DatePart("ww",field,int)

I get a parameter prompt asking for int. I even tried setting a text control
to the openargs value and referring to that

=Date("ww", field, txt)

Either way, the sorting and grouping dialog doesn't like it and shows a
parameter prompt asking for txt. 

Everything I've read says the sorting/grouping needs to refer to a field. I
was trying to avoid having to pass the firstdayoftheweek to the query
itself, but I guess that's an option. I guess I could pass the value to the
underlying query and run the week number calculation in the query, instead
of in the report.  

Susan H. 

Susan,

You sort/group on a calculated expression by entering that expression in the
grouping and sorting dialog

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 9:28 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


Well, checked again -- unless I'm just missing something, I don't know
how to group/sort by a calculated control within the report itself.

Susan H.   

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report

Gustav, I've not been able to sort by a calculated control -- wait... I
think I've been doing it wrong -- duh... <hangs head> I'm SUCH a user...
;) 

If I'm right, I'll let ya know. :) 

Susan  H. 

Hi Susan

Then, in the report, can't you sort and group by

=Weekday(YourDate, [YourSelectedFirstWeekday])

/gustav


> That's what I'd rather do, simply because it leaves fewer holes.

> Susan H.

> Hi Susan

> Your method looks longwinded but not weird. If it works fast and well
> I would leave it, though I'm sure another method could be found where 
> you adjust the grouping in the report directly.

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Apr 19 14:43:53 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:43:53 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8631272B@infoserver01.infostat.local>

You can only group and sort on a field or an expression involving a
field, and no, you can't use variables.  Had you mentioned the variable
before?  Why not just create a "week" field in the query and group and
sort on that calculated field.  Then you could use your variable to
create a filter for the particular week in question.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 11:21 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


But I've tried and it won't take it. The OpenArgs argument passes the
value I use in all of the date functions. If I refer to is as a variable


=DatePart("ww",field,int)

I get a parameter prompt asking for int. I even tried setting a text
control to the openargs value and referring to that

=Date("ww", field, txt)

Either way, the sorting and grouping dialog doesn't like it and shows a
parameter prompt asking for txt. 

Everything I've read says the sorting/grouping needs to refer to a
field. I was trying to avoid having to pass the firstdayoftheweek to the
query itself, but I guess that's an option. I guess I could pass the
value to the underlying query and run the week number calculation in the
query, instead of in the report.  

Susan H. 

Susan,

You sort/group on a calculated expression by entering that expression in
the grouping and sorting dialog

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 9:28 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


Well, checked again -- unless I'm just missing something, I don't know
how to group/sort by a calculated control within the report itself.

Susan H.   

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report

Gustav, I've not been able to sort by a calculated control -- wait... I
think I've been doing it wrong -- duh... <hangs head> I'm SUCH a user...
;) 

If I'm right, I'll let ya know. :) 

Susan  H. 

Hi Susan

Then, in the report, can't you sort and group by

=Weekday(YourDate, [YourSelectedFirstWeekday])

/gustav


> That's what I'd rather do, simply because it leaves fewer holes.

> Susan H.

> Hi Susan

> Your method looks longwinded but not weird. If it works fast and well 
> I would leave it, though I'm sure another method could be found where 
> you adjust the grouping in the report directly.

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Mon Apr 19 14:52:29 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 15:52:29 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8631272B@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <20040419195228.FRTV1779.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

 
You can only group and sort on a field or an expression involving a field,
and no, you can't use variables.  Had you mentioned the variable before?
Why not just create a "week" field in the query and group and sort on that
calculated field.  Then you could use your variable to create a filter for
the particular week in question.

============I'm passing the firstdayoftheweek value from a form to the
report -- the report's based on a query. So that's the quandry. That's what
I mentioned in my last message -- the only way I can see around it is to
pass the value to the query and run the expressions in the query first. I'm
not sure I know how to do that really -- I have never passed anything to a
query before -- just called functions from a query. And in this case, that's
what I'm trying to avoid -- calling the function from the query. 

Susan H. 



From Susan.Klos at fldoe.org  Mon Apr 19 14:39:49 2004
From: Susan.Klos at fldoe.org (Klos, Susan)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 15:39:49 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] RE: AccessD Digest, Vol 14, Issue 31
Message-ID: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51E0410CB@DOESEFPEML02.EUS.FLDOE.INT>

Robert, I need 71 identical tables because I am getting the same structure
Excel file from 71 districts.  The structure is the same but the data is
different.  I want to be able to loop through the tables and append their
records to one table.

Susan Klos
Senior Database Analyst
Evaluation and Reporting
Florida Department of Education


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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: custom sorts/groups in a report (Gustav Brock)
   2. Re: Calendar Controls -- just for discussion (William Hindman)
   3. ODE HElp problem (Susan Harkins)
   4. RE: custom sorts/groups in a report (Susan Harkins)
   5. A summary of the great Open Source discussion
      (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
   6. Re: Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
      (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
   7. Re: About Manuals for  your databases X posted
      (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
   8. Re: Calendar Controls -- just for discussion (Bryan Carbonnell)
   9. Re: Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
      (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
  10. Re: Calendar Controls -- just for discussion (Bryan Carbonnell)
  11. RE: Calendar Controls -- just for discussion (Andy Lacey)
  12. error in code (Pedro Janssen)
  13. RE: error in code (Susan Harkins)
  14. Re: error in code (Bryan Carbonnell)
  15. Re: error in code (Stuart McLachlan)
  16. RE: About Manuals for  your databases X posted (Porter, Mark)
  17. Error 3265. Item not found in this collection?!!? (S D)
  18. Re: custom sorts/groups in a report (Gustav Brock)
  19. Re: Error 3265. Item not found in this collection?!!?
      <SOLVED> (S D)
  20. Re: Calendar Controls -- just for discussion (Darren DICK)
  21. Re: Changing the table in a query so I can loop through
      thequery (Robert L. Stewart)
  22. RE: About Manuals for  your databases X posted (Dan Waters)
  23. RE: custom sorts/groups in a report (Susan Harkins)
  24. Re: custom sorts/groups in a report (Gustav Brock)
  25. RE: Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox content	s
      (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
  26. RE: Calendar Controls -- just for discussion (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
  27. RE: About Manuals for  your databases X posted (Charlotte Foust)
  28. RE: jpg Screen shot (O'Connor, Patricia  )


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 18:59:33 +0200
From: Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
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Hi Susan

> I'm still not happy with the solution -- there's got to be an easier way.
:)

Maybe. What solution did you settle on?

/gustav



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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 13:11:53 -0400
From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <002301c42568$3ec91ad0$6101a8c0 at dejpolsys>
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...I've not used the native cal for years ...but there was a period of time
with A95/97 that MS changed the way the calendar worked between a number of
versions and didn't maintain reverse compatibility ...depending upon which
version of the control your users had installed your app might or might not
work, a very common problem back then with all ActiveX controls (I don't use
any 3rd party ActiveX controls for the same reason) ...so I switched to a
vba based one and never looked back ...and no, I can't tell you the problems
have or have not been resolved ...I'm happy with my calendar ...its been
tweaked to work exactly the way I want it to :)

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 12:48 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion


> ...first ...I don't use the ODE Calendar Control because of a long history
> of versioning problems
>
> ===========I'm limited -- I write about what they want. :) So, when you
> complain of versioning problems, what do you mean?
>
> Susan H.
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 13:41:30 -0400
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
Subject: [AccessD] ODE HElp problem
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
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I just installed Office XP Developer and the Help files don't work -- the
interface is there and the toc is there -- but it isn't connecting and every
subject returns a page not found error. 
 
I don't even know where to begin to start. Anyone else had this happen?
 
Susan H. 


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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 13:52:24 -0400
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
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Well, it's clunky -- 

1.) User selects the first day of the week from a list of Sunday through
Saturday. 
2.) User clicks a command button that opens the report and sends the above
selected value via the OpenArgs argument. 
3.) The report is based on a query that calls a function that uses the value
selected in #1 to return a weekday value for each date.
4.) The report's grouping is first set to year. The second level groups on
the weekday value returned by #3. And, a third sorting level simply sorts
the date values so it all comes out in the wash. 
5.) The group header contains a value that uses the openargs value in a
DatePart expression to return the first day of the week for each group. 

You can use the report without the form and it will default to a
firstdayoftheweek value of 1 -- to avoid errors and to make it easier to use
the report without going through the form -- that way you could set the
default to anything and the user could just open the report. 

Seems like it ought to be easier than that though -- just too much going on.


#3's the one I don't really like. Seems like I ought to be able to get that
weekday number in the report, and although I can -- I can't sort by it.
Someone mentioned yesterday that you could group on a calculation, but I've
not figured that one out yet. I tried setting it using the GroupLevel and
GroupOn properties, but never got it to work -- not saying it won't, just I
wasn't successful. I didn't spend much time on it though. My understanding
of the GroupOn property is that it needs to refer to a specific integer
value that represents the built-in levels (Month, Year, Quarter, and so on).
I never could get it to accept a DatePart expression. 

Susan H.  

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 1:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report

Hi Susan

> I'm still not happy with the solution -- there's got to be an easier 
> way. :)

Maybe. What solution did you settle on?

/gustav

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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 11:43:07 -0700
From: "Jim Lawrence (AccessD)" <accessd at shaw.ca>
Subject: [AccessD] A summary of the great Open Source discussion
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
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Hi All:

A couple of weeks ago, there was an Open Source debate encapsulated much of
the points of view that have been argued for years. I was so impressed, with
the conciseness and objectiveness of the discussion that I decided to put
the results in a single page and post the summary to the DBA web site. You
can get access to the page through a link off the main page
www.databaseadvisors.com. (If your browser saves pages you may have to press
reset/reload to view the current layout.)

Thank you all for your contributions, Susan Harkin, who started the whole
thing, Stuart McLachlan, Bryan Carbonnell, Francisco H Tapia, Bruce Bruen,
Bob Hall, Drew Wutka, Marty Connelly and Arthur Fuller.

If there is anyone I overlooked or comments I missed, send me a note and you
will be appropriately accommodated.

Again, thanks to all.
Jim



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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 12:48:33 -0700
From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <00df01c4257e$2230ff80$6601a8c0 at HAL9002>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"


I use the ADH calendar and trigger it on the double-click of any date text
box.  So they can still hand enter the date if they want.  Users seem to
like the convention once they get used to it.

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 12:48 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
>
>
> > ...first ...I don't use the ODE Calendar Control because of a long
history
> > of versioning problems
> >
> > ===========I'm limited -- I write about what they want. :) So, when you
> > complain of versioning problems, what do you mean?
> >
> > Susan H.
> >
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 12:53:29 -0700
From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] About Manuals for  your databases X posted
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
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Joe:

I wrote a manual for the manufacturing system last year.  Just about
committed suicide but got it done.  For a product I think you need one.  But
for a one-shot app I never write them.

I tried to be consistent about the headings so that I could do an automatic
table of contents and that worked out pretty well.  And a different style
for the figures and tables so I could auto-produce a list of figures as
well.

Haven't done an index, however.

I'd be glad to send you a copy off-line if it would be useful to you.

HTH

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Hecht" <jmhla at earthlink.net>
To: "'ACCESS-L'" <ACCESS-L at PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM>; "AccessD"
<AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 11:44 PM
Subject: [AccessD] About Manuals for your databases X posted


> How many of you right them?
>
> Do you right users and developers manuals that explain your hows and
> whys?
>
> In my forms, I do things like make non-visible fields red and bold just
> so they are easier to see if they are buried under other controls.
>
> Just wondering
>
> JOE HECHT
> LOS ANGELES CA
>
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 15:57:53 -0400
From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
To: Access Developers discussion and problem	solving
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <4082A581.7252.F87E02 at localhost>
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On 18 Apr 2004 at 12:48, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access S wrote:

> I use the ADH calendar and trigger it on the double-click of any date
> text box.  So they can still hand enter the date if they want.  Users
> seem to like the convention once they get used to it.

I use the ADH one too. I actually place a button right beside the 
textbox so that the calendar can be opened without taking your hands 
off the keyboard.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
Don't take life too seriously. You won't get out alive.




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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 14:11:22 -0700
From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <015b01c42589$b3bde390$6601a8c0 at HAL9002>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Bryan:

So is that button the next control in the tab sequence after the text box
which would contain a date so the user can then TAB to it and press Enter?

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at sympatico.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion


> On 18 Apr 2004 at 12:48, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access S wrote:
>
> > I use the ADH calendar and trigger it on the double-click of any date
> > text box.  So they can still hand enter the date if they want.  Users
> > seem to like the convention once they get used to it.
>
> I use the ADH one too. I actually place a button right beside the
> textbox so that the calendar can be opened without taking your hands
> off the keyboard.
>
> -- 
> Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
> Don't take life too seriously. You won't get out alive.
>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 17:27:00 -0400
From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
To: Access Developers discussion and problem	solving
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <4082BA64.21526.14A13BF at localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On 18 Apr 2004 at 14:11, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access S wrote:

> So is that button the next control in the tab sequence after the text
> box which would contain a date so the user can then TAB to it and
> press Enter?

I'm not sure if enter works, I always use the space bar to activate 
the button, but yes that's the concept.

The button is the next item in the tab order. The user would press 
space/enter and the calendar form opens, or they can just tab through 
the button if they type the date manually.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
Normal people worry me.




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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 23:00:43 +0100
From: "Andy Lacey" <andy at minstersystems.co.uk>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <000601c42590$98900470$b274d0d5 at minster33c3r25>
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> I use a modified version of Drew's old mini-calendar which is all VBA,
dead reliable, and very fast.
Ditto (and thanks to Drew)

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> William Hindman
> Sent: 18 April 2004 17:42
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
> 
> 
> ...first ...I don't use the ODE Calendar Control because of a 
> long history of versioning problems ...even when you wrap it 
> in a class you're app is still vulnerable ...besides it being 
> slow ...I use a modified version of Drew's old mini-calendar 
> which is all VBA, dead reliable, and very fast.
> 
> ...second (this has been discussed here recently but under 
> another thread
> topic) ...I much prefer data integrity over speed but its not 
> necessary to sacrifice one for the other ...I always force 
> user date entry from a pop-up calendar ...the calendar 
> pops-up at the bottom right of the text box with the current 
> date defaulted ...if the current date is what is required 
> ...a dblclick gets the date entered and tabs to the next 
> control ...if not, the cal responds to either mouse (slow) or 
> keyboard (fast) for date selection.
> 
> ...purists will try and tell you that such an approach slows 
> keyboarders down and they won't accept it ...I disagree 
> ...once the keyboarders get used to the keyboard strokes that 
> control the cal it is in most cases just as fast as them 
> entering it directly ...BUT ...big one ...the forced calendar 
> usage eliminates most date errors from users who enter/read 
> dates differently ...and the difference between error/dirty 
> data correction time and getting it right the first time 
> weighs heavily in favor of using a cal control over straight 
> user date entry.
> 
> William Hindman
> "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing 
> your code is a violent psychopath who knows where you live." 
> William Silverstein
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 11:44 AM
> Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
> 
> 
> > I'm writing about the ODE Calendar Control and I'm curious 
> how many of 
> > you use Calendar controls in your apps.
> >
> > I've had people complain about them -- they'd actually 
> enter the dates 
> > themselves because they find the break in their data entry routines
> annoying
> > -- from a data integrity point of view I can see the value of the 
> > controls
> > -- but how do you convince people to use them?
> >
> > Susan H.
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> 
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 00:17:55 +0200
From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
Subject: [AccessD] error in code
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <000801c42593$219ec510$f4c581d5 at pedro>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Hello Group,

why isn't this part of a code not working

for i  = 1 To 9
If "chb" & i & "c31") = True Then
    .Item("Code" & i).Value = "**     geen code"
End If
Next i

the error is:  Error 13, Description:  Type Mismatch


TIA

Pedro Janssen




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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 18:41:41 -0400
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] error in code
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
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	<20040418224141.TSEN1714.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net at SUSANONE>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="US-ASCII"

 
for i  = 1 To 9
If "chb" & i & "c31") = True Then

Your condition is never going to equal true -- but rather a cancatenated
string. Although, I think the code's missing soemthing -- you've got a )
that doesn't make sense in its position, but I suspect that's just a typo
and probably isn't your actual error is it?

Susan H. 



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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 18:46:46 -0400
From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] error in code
To: Access Developers discussion and problem	solving
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <4082CD16.31909.1931CA1 at localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On 19 Apr 2004 at 0:17, Pedro Janssen wrote:

> why isn't this part of a code not working
> 
> for i  = 1 To 9
> If "chb" & i & "c31") = True Then
>     .Item("Code" & i).Value = "**     geen code"
> End If
> Next i

Pedro,

I am assuming that chb* are checkboxes. If so, try:

If me.controls("chb" & i & "c31") = True Then

You also have a closing ) on the ofiginal If Then line.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
I am a nobody, and nobody is perfect; therefore, I am perfect.




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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 09:52:42 +1000
From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] error in code
To: Access Developers discussion and problem	solving
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <4083A16A.23848.32CE49 at localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On 19 Apr 2004 at 0:17, Pedro Janssen wrote:

> Hello Group,
> 
> why isn't this part of a code not working
> 
> for i  = 1 To 9
> If "chb" & i & "c31") = True Then
>     .Item("Code" & i).Value = "**     geen code"
> End If
> Next i
> 
> the error is:  Error 13, Description:  Type Mismatch
> 

Apart from the problems mentioned by others (the missing "(",  the 
missing "me.controls" or "." before "chb1"),  this will result in 
spaces in your control names ie "chb 1c31" to "chb 9c31" and "Code 1" 
to "Code 9"

UNless you do have spaces in the control names, you need to use 
Format(i) or similar to get rid of the leading space.



 
-- 
Lexacorp Ltd
http://www.lexacorp.com.pg
Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System 
Support.





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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 15:42:33 -0800
From: "Porter, Mark" <MPorter at acsalaska.com>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] About Manuals for  your databases X posted
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID:
	
<BFBC9BAC6169D411890000508BAE2C5304246E84 at acsexch4.corp.acsalaska.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

I charge the same hourly rate for documentation as I do for coding.

Then I strongly suggest that they produce their own.  I've never been asked
to produce documentation (user docs) yet.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhla at earthlink.net]
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 10:44 PM
To: 'ACCESS-L'; AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] About Manuals for your databases X posted


How many of you right them?
 
Do you right users and developers manuals that explain your hows and
whys?
 
In my forms, I do things like make non-visible fields red and bold just
so they are easier to see if they are buried under other controls.
 
Just wondering
 
JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 01:44:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: S D <accessd667 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [AccessD] Error 3265. Item not found in this collection?!!?
To: accessd <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <20040419084405.36072.qmail at web61105.mail.yahoo.com>
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Hi group,
 
a user reported an error. The error message displayed the following info:
Source: DAO.Fields
Number: 3265
Description: Item not found in this collection
Call Stack: Switchdatabase.Message_Check_GAS.Check1015
                 Switchdatabase.Form_frm_GAS_GENERATE.cmdGenerate_Click
 
The line that causes the error is (see code below for details): 
rv = MsgBox("Duplicate value!! Delete original record?" & vbCr _
               , vbYesNo, "Answer question")
 
WHY does this occur?
The user is using Win NT. The error does NOT occur on Win2000. We never had
this problem before, not on NT and not on Win2000.
 
Please advise!
 
TIA

Sander
 
This is the code that caused the problem:
 
Public Function Check_1015(msgtype As String) As String
   Dim Status As String
   Dim rs, rsb As Recordset
   Dim db As Database
   Dim teller, i As Long
   Dim rv As String
 
   On Error GoTo Check_1015_Error
 
   Status = "Ok"
   If msgtype = "I" Then
...
...
      Set rsb = db.OpenRecordset("Select * from
V4_GAS_Bronbestand_Verhuizingen where connect_EAN = '" & rs!Connect_EAN &
"'", dbReadOnly)
      If rsb.EOF = False Then
         rv = MsgBox("Duplicate value!! Delete original record?" & vbCr _
               , vbYesNo, "Answer question")
....
 
 
 

		
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 11:11:01 +0200
From: Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <1918237935.20040419111101 at cactus.dk>
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Hi Susan

Your method looks longwinded but not weird. If it works fast and
well I would leave it, though I'm sure another method could be found
where you adjust the grouping in the report directly.

/gustav


> Well, it's clunky -- 

> 1.) User selects the first day of the week from a list of Sunday through
> Saturday. 
> 2.) User clicks a command button that opens the report and sends the above
> selected value via the OpenArgs argument. 
> 3.) The report is based on a query that calls a function that uses the
value
> selected in #1 to return a weekday value for each date.
> 4.) The report's grouping is first set to year. The second level groups on
> the weekday value returned by #3. And, a third sorting level simply sorts
> the date values so it all comes out in the wash. 
> 5.) The group header contains a value that uses the openargs value in a
> DatePart expression to return the first day of the week for each group. 

> You can use the report without the form and it will default to a
> firstdayoftheweek value of 1 -- to avoid errors and to make it easier to
use
> the report without going through the form -- that way you could set the
> default to anything and the user could just open the report. 

> Seems like it ought to be easier than that though -- just too much going
on.


> #3's the one I don't really like. Seems like I ought to be able to get
that
> weekday number in the report, and although I can -- I can't sort by it.
> Someone mentioned yesterday that you could group on a calculation, but
I've
> not figured that one out yet. I tried setting it using the GroupLevel and
> GroupOn properties, but never got it to work -- not saying it won't, just
I
> wasn't successful. I didn't spend much time on it though. My understanding
> of the GroupOn property is that it needs to refer to a specific integer
> value that represents the built-in levels (Month, Year, Quarter, and so
on).
> I never could get it to accept a DatePart expression. 

> Susan H.  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 1:00 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report

> Hi Susan

>> I'm still not happy with the solution -- there's got to be an easier 
>> way. :)

> Maybe. What solution did you settle on?

> /gustav



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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 02:34:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: S D <accessd667 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Error 3265. Item not found in this
	collection?!!?	<SOLVED>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <20040419093438.7994.qmail at web61102.mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hi group,
 
I found the freaking error. This app is sooooo buggy! There was a reference
(not displayed in the code below) to a field called  Net_op_EAN...the
CORRECT field name is NetOp_Ean. 
 
Question: "Has this functionality EVER worked before?" (this is a standard
question for this app :-(
User response: "Yes, we use this functionality on a daily basis!"

Yeah right: Tables are empty, log is empty and output directory is empty.
 
Grrrr. Anyway its job that pays the bills.
 
Sander

S D <accessd667 at yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi group,

a user reported an error. The error message displayed the following info:
Source: DAO.Fields
Number: 3265
Description: Item not found in this collection
Call Stack: Switchdatabase.Message_Check_GAS.Check1015
Switchdatabase.Form_frm_GAS_GENERATE.cmdGenerate_Click

The line that causes the error is (see code below for details): 
rv = MsgBox("Duplicate value!! Delete original record?" & vbCr _
, vbYesNo, "Answer question")

WHY does this occur?
The user is using Win NT. The error does NOT occur on Win2000. We never had
this problem before, not on NT and not on Win2000.

Please advise!

TIA

Sander

This is the code that caused the problem:

Public Function Check_1015(msgtype As String) As String
Dim Status As String
Dim rs, rsb As Recordset
Dim db As Database
Dim teller, i As Long
Dim rv As String

On Error GoTo Check_1015_Error

Status = "Ok"
If msgtype = "I" Then
...
...
Set rsb = db.OpenRecordset("Select * from V4_GAS_Bronbestand_Verhuizingen
where connect_EAN = '" & rs!Connect_EAN & "'", dbReadOnly)
If rsb.EOF = False Then
rv = MsgBox("Duplicate value!! Delete original record?" & vbCr _
, vbYesNo, "Answer question")
....





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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:53:33 +1000
From: "Darren DICK" <d.dick at uws.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <00c001c42608$f7e59a70$0b669a89 at DDICK>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

I give 'em both. Both straight data entry and a calendar
They can do data entry straight into the control or double click to get a
VBA only calendar.
(Won't touch the OCX ones anymore)
I also have a small popup that provides some of the basic date ranges
IE 1st or 2nd or 3rd etc quarter of current or last year
All Year, all last year. This month, last month, Last week this week,
Next week, next month, today etc. 
All available with checkboxes.
Click a check and the dates are determined and results put into 
txtStartDate and txtEndDate controls

Works a treat

HTH

Darren

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:44 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion


> I'm writing about the ODE Calendar Control and I'm curious how many of you
> use Calendar controls in your apps. 
>  
> I've had people complain about them -- they'd actually enter the dates
> themselves because they find the break in their data entry routines
annoying
> -- from a data integrity point of view I can see the value of the controls
> -- but how do you convince people to use them?
>  
> Susan H. 
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Message: 21
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 08:20:00 -0500
From: "Robert L. Stewart" <rl_stewart at highstream.net>
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Changing the table in a query so I can loop
	through	thequery
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040419081850.02b22e48 at pop3.highstream.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

Susan,

If you have 71 identical tables, you have a design problem.  Why do you 
need 71 tables with the same information?

Robert

At 12:00 PM 4/18/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 16:59:29 -0400
>From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Changing the table in a query so I can loop
>         through thequery
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID:
>         <20040417205929.PLEB1773.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net at SUSANONE>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="US-ASCII"
>
>I'm sorry, not an UPDATE, but a SQL INSERT INTO
>
>Susan H.
>
>I have an append query that can work for 71 tables.  I want to create a for
>next loop function that will substitute the table names (they are numbers)
>each time it loops.  Can someone help me?  I do not quite have the query
def
>thing down and I think I need to use it here.  Each table has the same
>fields.




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Message: 22
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 08:31:36 -0500
From: "Dan Waters" <dwaters at usinternet.com>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] About Manuals for  your databases X posted
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <001601c42612$a3831480$de1811d8 at danwaters>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

I write a manual for every process module.  Managers want them available,
and I want to be able to refer to the manual instead of being told that they
can't figure it out.  I write a Word document that contains all the detail a
user would need.  The module contains a Manual hyperlink button so it can be
pulled up at any time.  The manuals are typically 10 - 25 pages long.

I also use the manual as a QC tool for myself.  As I write it, I double
check the system to be sure it does just what the manual says.  

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 1:44 AM
To: 'ACCESS-L'; AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] About Manuals for your databases X posted

How many of you right them?
 
Do you right users and developers manuals that explain your hows and
whys?
 
In my forms, I do things like make non-visible fields red and bold just
so they are easier to see if they are buried under other controls.
 
Just wondering
 
JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 
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Message: 23
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 09:45:57 -0400
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID:
	<20040419134556.DMSZ1832.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net at SUSANONE>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="US-ASCII"

That's what I'd rather do, simply because it leaves fewer holes. 

Susan H. 

Hi Susan

Your method looks longwinded but not weird. If it works fast and well I
would leave it, though I'm sure another method could be found where you
adjust the grouping in the report directly.

/gustav


> Well, it's clunky --

> 1.) User selects the first day of the week from a list of Sunday 
> through Saturday.
> 2.) User clicks a command button that opens the report and sends the 
> above selected value via the OpenArgs argument.
> 3.) The report is based on a query that calls a function that uses the 
> value selected in #1 to return a weekday value for each date.
> 4.) The report's grouping is first set to year. The second level 
> groups on the weekday value returned by #3. And, a third sorting level 
> simply sorts the date values so it all comes out in the wash.
> 5.) The group header contains a value that uses the openargs value in 
> a DatePart expression to return the first day of the week for each group.

> You can use the report without the form and it will default to a 
> firstdayoftheweek value of 1 -- to avoid errors and to make it easier 
> to use the report without going through the form -- that way you could 
> set the default to anything and the user could just open the report.

> Seems like it ought to be easier than that though -- just too much going
on.


> #3's the one I don't really like. Seems like I ought to be able to get 
> that weekday number in the report, and although I can -- I can't sort by
it.
> Someone mentioned yesterday that you could group on a calculation, but 
> I've not figured that one out yet. I tried setting it using the 
> GroupLevel and GroupOn properties, but never got it to work -- not 
> saying it won't, just I wasn't successful. I didn't spend much time on 
> it though. My understanding of the GroupOn property is that it needs 
> to refer to a specific integer value that represents the built-in levels
(Month, Year, Quarter, and so on).
> I never could get it to accept a DatePart expression. 

> Susan H.  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav 
> Brock
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 1:00 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report

> Hi Susan

>> I'm still not happy with the solution -- there's got to be an easier 
>> way. :)

> Maybe. What solution did you settle on?

> /gustav

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Message: 24
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 16:04:56 +0200
From: Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <12825873634.20040419160456 at cactus.dk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hi Susan

Then, in the report, can't you sort and group by

=Weekday(YourDate, [YourSelectedFirstWeekday])

/gustav


> That's what I'd rather do, simply because it leaves fewer holes. 

> Susan H. 

> Hi Susan

> Your method looks longwinded but not weird. If it works fast and well I
> would leave it, though I'm sure another method could be found where you
> adjust the grouping in the report directly.



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Message: 25
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 09:42:19 -0500
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox
	content	s
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Message-ID:
	<2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227ADF at main2.marlow.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Did you try 'First'?

Again, it is going to be dependant on how Access actually 'sees' the data.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 7:12 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox
contents


Thanks, Drew and Gustav for responding.
I tried Max, but sometimes the ID I need is in the middle of the IDs.
I didn't think about using Top, I'll try that.

thanks again.
Jim 



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 4:42 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox
contents


Hi Jim

> I have a list box with over 130 items all rows are distinct but a few
columns are duplicates.  The ListBox is sorted on two text fields which puts
the ID number out of sequence.  The ComboBox sorts
> and "Groups By" duplicate columns.  What I want to do is use the ComboBox
to jump to the first instance of one of the duplicate columns.

> e.g.

> ID      CourseName      City
> 135     CCP             EC
> 90      DIS             EC
> 87      DIS             MP
> 18      DOC             CD
> 17      DOC             SR
> 55      DSC M           AL
> 57      DSC M           EC
> 43      DSC M           MP
> 28      DSC M           SF
> 3       DSC M           SR

> What I want is:
> 135     CCP             EC
> 90      DIS             EC
> 18      DOC             CD
> 55      DSC M           AL
> 3       DSC M           SR

> What I get is:
> 135     CCP             EC
> 87      DIS             MP
> 17      DOC             SR
> 3       DSC M           SR

> What needs to be done to what the desired results?

As Drew notes, you'll have to pick the sorted values for ID and City
for each CourseName.
Two subqueries can be used for this:

<SQL>

  SELECT
    (SELECT
        TOP 1 ID
      FROM
        tblCourses AS aliC
      WHERE
        aliC.CourseName = tblCourses.CourseName
      ORDER BY
        City,
        ID DESC;) AS TopID,
    CourseName,
    (SELECT
        TOP 1 City
      FROM
        tblCourses AS aliC
      WHERE
        aliC.CourseName = tblCourses.CourseName
      ORDER BY
        City,
        ID DESC;) AS TopCity
  FROM
    tblCourses
  GROUP BY
    CourseName;

</SQL>

Have fun!

/gustav

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Message: 26
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 09:47:47 -0500
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Message-ID:
	<2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227AE0 at main2.marlow.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

You're quite welcome.  As soon as life settles down, I'll finish up the new
version.  Which is keyboard friendly too!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 5:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion


> I use a modified version of Drew's old mini-calendar which is all VBA,
dead reliable, and very fast.
Ditto (and thanks to Drew)

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> William Hindman
> Sent: 18 April 2004 17:42
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
> 
> 
> ...first ...I don't use the ODE Calendar Control because of a 
> long history of versioning problems ...even when you wrap it 
> in a class you're app is still vulnerable ...besides it being 
> slow ...I use a modified version of Drew's old mini-calendar 
> which is all VBA, dead reliable, and very fast.
> 
> ...second (this has been discussed here recently but under 
> another thread
> topic) ...I much prefer data integrity over speed but its not 
> necessary to sacrifice one for the other ...I always force 
> user date entry from a pop-up calendar ...the calendar 
> pops-up at the bottom right of the text box with the current 
> date defaulted ...if the current date is what is required 
> ...a dblclick gets the date entered and tabs to the next 
> control ...if not, the cal responds to either mouse (slow) or 
> keyboard (fast) for date selection.
> 
> ...purists will try and tell you that such an approach slows 
> keyboarders down and they won't accept it ...I disagree 
> ...once the keyboarders get used to the keyboard strokes that 
> control the cal it is in most cases just as fast as them 
> entering it directly ...BUT ...big one ...the forced calendar 
> usage eliminates most date errors from users who enter/read 
> dates differently ...and the difference between error/dirty 
> data correction time and getting it right the first time 
> weighs heavily in favor of using a cal control over straight 
> user date entry.
> 
> William Hindman
> "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing 
> your code is a violent psychopath who knows where you live." 
> William Silverstein
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 11:44 AM
> Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
> 
> 
> > I'm writing about the ODE Calendar Control and I'm curious 
> how many of 
> > you use Calendar controls in your apps.
> >
> > I've had people complain about them -- they'd actually 
> enter the dates 
> > themselves because they find the break in their data entry routines
> annoying
> > -- from a data integrity point of view I can see the value of the 
> > controls
> > -- but how do you convince people to use them?
> >
> > Susan H.
> > --
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> 
> 
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Message: 27
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 08:50:40 -0700
From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] About Manuals for  your databases X posted
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
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Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

I do NOT write developer manuals, although I do create user help files.
Any developer notes are in the  comments in code, but those are for me,
not for other developers ... Unless I step in front of a bus. <VBG>

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhla at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 10:44 PM
To: 'ACCESS-L'; AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] About Manuals for your databases X posted


How many of you right them?
 
Do you right users and developers manuals that explain your hows and
whys?
 
In my forms, I do things like make non-visible fields red and bold just
so they are easier to see if they are buried under other controls.
 
Just wondering
 
JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 
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Message: 28
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:28:21 -0400
From: "O'Connor, Patricia  " <Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID:
	
<B94C79B465542042AB0748EAF37F9AC024A6BC at EXCNYSM0A1AB.nysemail.nyenet>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="US-ASCII"

Rocky,

We use printkey 2000 (full). It allows us to print the entire screen,
the active window, crop, cut, then copy/paste stuff into word documents,
powerpoint, emails, etc.

Patti
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 04:31 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
> 
> Dear List:
> 
> A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they 
> would like it to be 300dpi.
> 
> What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?
> 
> MTIA,
> 
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 16:10:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Report Page Header
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB78@nnse14.nns.com>

First, a really stupid question...why is it that Access reports do not have
a "Detail Header" section?  It seems simple and to the point for a lot of
what I do when grouping is not needed.


Second, when printing a report, what is the syntax to check if there are no
detail records on the page and suppress the Page Header if there are none?



Mark


From Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us  Mon Apr 19 15:30:34 2004
From: Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us (O'Connor, Patricia  )
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 16:30:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] RE: AccessD Digest, Vol 14, Issue 31
Message-ID: <B94C79B465542042AB0748EAF37F9AC024A6BF@EXCNYSM0A1AB.nysemail.nyenet>

Susan
Are you using VB or are you using the import wizard.  Do you have the
code for getting a table? I do something similar but with text files. 

What are the name of the files? 

Patti  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Klos, Susan
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 03:40 PM
> To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
> Subject: [AccessD] RE: AccessD Digest, Vol 14, Issue 31
> 
> Robert, I need 71 identical tables because I am getting the 
> same structure
> Excel file from 71 districts.  The structure is the same but 
> the data is
> different.  I want to be able to loop through the tables and 
> append their
> records to one table.
> 
> Susan Klos
> Senior Database Analyst
> Evaluation and Reporting
> Florida Department of Education
> 
> 



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Apr 19 15:29:56 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 13:29:56 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8632C53D@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Sorry, Susan, but I just tuned in. <g>  

I'm not clear on what you're doing so I'm not being much help.  I do
dynamic reports for a week period and pass the start date to my report
then let the report determine what day that is and populate an
appropriate series of label captions to match.  I base it on a crosstab
query, rebuilt for each report run, that uses dates as column headings
and uses parameters to filter the dates.  I set the SQL for that
crosstab query each time I use a form to call the report (no hand
tweaking), and I generate an IN list of dates in the specified range to
create the column headings.  I then use code in the Report_Open event to
determine which field to bind to which control in the detail of the
report.  Is that kind of what you're attempting to do?   

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 11:52 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


 
You can only group and sort on a field or an expression involving a
field, and no, you can't use variables.  Had you mentioned the variable
before? Why not just create a "week" field in the query and group and
sort on that calculated field.  Then you could use your variable to
create a filter for the particular week in question.

============I'm passing the firstdayoftheweek value from a form to the
report -- the report's based on a query. So that's the quandry. That's
what I mentioned in my last message -- the only way I can see around it
is to pass the value to the query and run the expressions in the query
first. I'm not sure I know how to do that really -- I have never passed
anything to a query before -- just called functions from a query. And in
this case, that's what I'm trying to avoid -- calling the function from
the query. 

Susan H. 

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Mon Apr 19 15:41:16 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 16:41:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8632C53D@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <20040419204116.NEMD1818.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Egads... :)

All  I want is to group/sort a report based on the week -- but the first day
of the week needs to be dynamic. The user chooses the first day of the week
and the report sorts/groups accordingly. For instance, if the user chooses
Wednesday, each group begins with a Wed and ends with a Tuesday. 

Right now, the process begins with the simple "pick a day" form, which runs
the report -- that's based on a query that calls a function to return the
"ww" component for each date in the query, so the report can then group on
that value -- in the report that Jack built. 

Seems like a long way around to go to me. It does work and it isn't horribly
slow or anything. It just seems inefficient to me that I can't get all that
done in the report or the query without the aid of calling that function.
That's where the openargs comes in -- I've tried passing the
firstdayoftheweek value to the report and calculating the "ww" components in
the report, but I can't get the report to then sort on those "ww" values
because of the sorting limitations. 

I just don't believe that the solution I've come up with is the most
efficient, even if it does work. 

Susan H. 

Sorry, Susan, but I just tuned in. <g>  

I'm not clear on what you're doing so I'm not being much help.  I do dynamic
reports for a week period and pass the start date to my report then let the
report determine what day that is and populate an appropriate series of
label captions to match.  I base it on a crosstab query, rebuilt for each
report run, that uses dates as column headings and uses parameters to filter
the dates.  I set the SQL for that crosstab query each time I use a form to
call the report (no hand tweaking), and I generate an IN list of dates in
the specified range to create the column headings.  I then use code in the
Report_Open event to determine which field to bind to which control in the
detail of the
report.  Is that kind of what you're attempting to do?   

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 11:52 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


 
You can only group and sort on a field or an expression involving a
field, and no, you can't use variables.  Had you mentioned the variable
before? Why not just create a "week" field in the query and group and
sort on that calculated field.  Then you could use your variable to
create a filter for the particular week in question.

============I'm passing the firstdayoftheweek value from a form to the
report -- the report's based on a query. So that's the quandry. That's
what I mentioned in my last message -- the only way I can see around it
is to pass the value to the query and run the expressions in the query
first. I'm not sure I know how to do that really -- I have never passed
anything to a query before -- just called functions from a query. And in
this case, that's what I'm trying to avoid -- calling the function from
the query. 

Susan H. 

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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Mon Apr 19 15:52:39 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 15:52:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Changing the table in a query so I can
	loopthrough	thequery
In-Reply-To: <200404192042.i3JKg7B23548@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040419155057.02af21f8@pop3.highstream.net>

Ken,

You have been in my SIG long enough to know that is a resounding YES, it is 
a bad design.  But, do you actually populate all 140 tables with the same 
data like she is doing?

Robert

At 03:42 PM 4/19/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:19:09 -0500
>From: "Ken Ismert" <KIsmert at TexasSystems.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: Changing the table in a query so I can
>         loopthrough     thequery
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <005401c42632$6d9702d0$2a3ca8c0 at TEXASSYSTEMS.COM>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>
>Well, I've been shepherding a db with almost 140 identical tables. Maybe
>twice the design problem? I inherited it three years ago, and it soon became
>clear that the cost to redo it 'properly' was too high. Perhaps in another
>three years the opportunity will present itself.
>
>-Ken




From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Mon Apr 19 15:56:43 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 15:56:43 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Changing the table in a query so I can
	loopthrough	thequery
In-Reply-To: <200404192042.i3JKg7B23548@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040419155452.048d1d10@pop3.highstream.net>

Susan,

 From what I read below, you can distinguish which excel file is from which 
district.  Why not just append them to the single table and use the 
distinguishing factor to pass in the value of the "district" as part of the 
INSERT SQL statement?

Robert

At 03:42 PM 4/19/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 15:39:49 -0400
>From: "Klos, Susan" <Susan.Klos at fldoe.org>
>Subject: [AccessD] RE: AccessD Digest, Vol 14, Issue 31
>To: "'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID:
>         <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51E0410CB at DOESEFPEML02.EUS.FLDOE.INT>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Robert, I need 71 identical tables because I am getting the same structure
>Excel file from 71 districts.  The structure is the same but the data is
>different.  I want to be able to loop through the tables and append their
>records to one table.
>
>Susan Klos
>Senior Database Analyst
>Evaluation and Reporting
>Florida Department of Education




From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Mon Apr 19 16:01:02 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 16:01:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Report Page Header
In-Reply-To: <200404192042.i3JKg7B23548@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040419155819.049243e0@pop3.highstream.net>

In a band report writer, which Access is, the detail header is in the 
grouping header just above it.  You have to make it visible.

There is a event in the report for No data.  You would put code in that 
event to handle what ever you wanted to do there.

Robert

At 03:42 PM 4/19/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 16:10:22 -0400
>From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
>Subject: [AccessD] Report Page Header
>To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at DatabaseAdvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB78 at nnse14.nns.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain
>
>First, a really stupid question...why is it that Access reports do not have
>a "Detail Header" section?  It seems simple and to the point for a lot of
>what I do when grouping is not needed.
>
>
>Second, when printing a report, what is the syntax to check if there are no
>detail records on the page and suppress the Page Header if there are none?
>
>




From MPorter at acsalaska.com  Mon Apr 19 15:47:10 2004
From: MPorter at acsalaska.com (Porter, Mark)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:47:10 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] RE: AccessD Digest, Vol 14, Issue 31
Message-ID: <BFBC9BAC6169D411890000508BAE2C5304246E92@acsexch4.corp.acsalaska.com>


Susan,

I have not seen your prior conversation, and have no knowledge of other
details on this outside of this post, but if this solution was presented to
me I would be very inclined to rethink it.

Although you have multiple input files, you only have a single file
structure to deal with.  I would recommend pulling all files into a single
table initially, with an extra field in the table indicating the source or
district.

This leaves you with one import routine (file name and path as a paramater)
and one data structure to deal with.

Ask yourself, what happens when they restructure or add districts in the
future?  Or when you have to alter the data structure for any reason?  Your
structure quickly becomes a monster requiring exponentially more support.

If you have to perform complex data cleansing on the base data before it is
appended to the single master table, you can utilize a single staging table
for your file load, and a cleansing routine for your append.

Mark

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Klos, Susan [mailto:Susan.Klos at fldoe.org]
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 11:40 AM
> To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
> Subject: [AccessD] RE: AccessD Digest, Vol 14, Issue 31
> 
> 
> Robert, I need 71 identical tables because I am getting the 
> same structure
> Excel file from 71 districts.  The structure is the same but 
> the data is
> different.  I want to be able to loop through the tables and 
> append their
> records to one table.
> 
> Susan Klos
> Senior Database Analyst
> Evaluation and Reporting
> Florida Department of Education
> 
> 

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Apr 19 16:10:41 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:10:41 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Report Page Header
References: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB78@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <01f901c42652$c5c0fef0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Mark:

Do you mean no data for the whole report?  If so you can use the No Data
event and issue a DoCmd.CancelEvent command.  That will cancel the whole
report.  Mostly I then have to trap the error 2105 in the calling form.

But what condition would give you  on some detail records on some pages and
not others?

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:10 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Report Page Header


> First, a really stupid question...why is it that Access reports do not
have
> a "Detail Header" section?  It seems simple and to the point for a lot of
> what I do when grouping is not needed.
>
>
> Second, when printing a report, what is the syntax to check if there are
no
> detail records on the page and suppress the Page Header if there are none?
>
>
>
> Mark
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From Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us  Mon Apr 19 16:24:03 2004
From: Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us (O'Connor, Patricia  )
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 17:24:03 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] RE: AccessD Digest, Vol 14, Issue 31
Message-ID: <B94C79B465542042AB0748EAF37F9AC024A6C1@EXCNYSM0A1AB.nysemail.nyenet>

SUSAN


OOPS - read your post wrong - I have input files from the counties that
go into ONE table. I use the county id code to identify where it came
from as I insert the the records into the table.

You really should only have 1 table if all the data is the same at the
end point.  I can understand having several input files since ours come
in at different times.

Patti
-----------------------------------------------------------------

Susan
Are you using VB or are you using the import wizard.  Do you have the
code for getting a table? I do something similar but with text files. 

What are the name of the files? 

Patti  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Klos, Susan
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 03:40 PM
> To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
> Subject: [AccessD] RE: AccessD Digest, Vol 14, Issue 31
> 
> Robert, I need 71 identical tables because I am getting the 
> same structure
> Excel file from 71 districts.  The structure is the same but 
> the data is
> different.  I want to be able to loop through the tables and 
> append their
> records to one table.
> 
> Susan Klos
> Senior Database Analyst
> Evaluation and Reporting
> Florida Department of Education
> 
> 

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From pedro at plex.nl  Mon Apr 19 16:59:19 2004
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 23:59:19 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] error in code
References: <4082CD16.31909.1931CA1@localhost>
Message-ID: <000501c42659$b1a8c8b0$f7c581d5@pedro>

Hello,

thanks for those who responded.

Me.Controls and getting rid of the spaces did the trick.


Pedro Janssen




----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at sympatico.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problemsolving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] error in code


> On 19 Apr 2004 at 0:17, Pedro Janssen wrote:
>
> > why isn't this part of a code not working
> >
> > for i  = 1 To 9
> > If "chb" & i & "c31") = True Then
> >     .Item("Code" & i).Value = "**     geen code"
> > End If
> > Next i
>
> Pedro,
>
> I am assuming that chb* are checkboxes. If so, try:
>
> If me.controls("chb" & i & "c31") = True Then
>
> You also have a closing ) on the ofiginal If Then line.
>
> --
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> I am a nobody, and nobody is perfect; therefore, I am perfect.
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Apr 19 22:12:18 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 23:12:18 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] RE: AccessD Digest, Vol 14, Issue 31
In-Reply-To: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51E0410CB@DOESEFPEML02.EUS.FLDOE.INT>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPOEMGHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Susan,

The way that I deal with this is that I COPY the file to a common name,
perhaps CountyData.XLS.  Then I link that file to the FE.  Build my queries
to suck the data out.  Run them.  Then there is just a copy of whatever the
next file name is to CountyData.XLS and run the queries over again.  You
need a means of interpreting some part of the original file name so that you
can set the "county field".  Do that 71 times and you are done.  One table
name, one set of queries, one function for pulling the county name into an
aliased query field, one routine that copies the file to a common name /
location.

Is this a manual process?  Is there a naming convention in the excel files?

If not just throw all of the excel files in a directory, copy each one out
to an archive directory, adding the yyyymmdd string to the name, either at
the beginning or the end (helps sort the files in date order).  Also do the
copy to a common location / name.  Now write an iterator that finds every
file in the directory and copies it to archive / common name - location,
deleting the file in the original directory.  When no files remain, you are
done.  In order to do this you must have some identifying string in the file
name however, perhaps the county name as the first N characters.  That
allows the code to build the "missing" field that is the county in the
destination table.


John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Klos, Susan
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 3:40 PM
To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: [AccessD] RE: AccessD Digest, Vol 14, Issue 31


Robert, I need 71 identical tables because I am getting the same structure
Excel file from 71 districts.  The structure is the same but the data is
different.  I want to be able to loop through the tables and append their
records to one table.

Susan Klos
Senior Database Analyst
Evaluation and Reporting
Florida Department of Education





From jmhla at earthlink.net  Tue Apr 20 00:09:41 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 22:09:41 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] cbo after adding data question
Message-ID: <000501c42695$b3109ed0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

I have a combo box that pulls up matching records on a form. The data source
is a SQL statement not a query.

 

After the record is entered where and how should I write the requry
statement to add the record to the combo box?

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

 



From pharryecoenen at btinternet.com  Tue Apr 20 02:51:45 2004
From: pharryecoenen at btinternet.com (Harry Coenen)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 08:51:45 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] RE: AccessD Digest, Vol 14, Issue 31
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPOEMGHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAL9Kwp6bii0K2NXFiQtqufcKAAAAQAAAAKu5k4g7hUEajBNQ1qK/uaQEAAAAA@btinternet.com>

Dear Susan 

My 2 eurocents, after Jonh Colby's two dollars:

Assuming the following procedure:
For each period:
a. dump all files in a standard period directory
b. get access to read the directory until there are no files left
(probably it is usefull to read all the filenames in a table and use this
thable for further processing)
For each file in directory
c. attach each table to the database
d. run the append
Next file
Next period

Following the code for the append

'+*define vars
dim strInsertTable as string
dim strFromTable as string
dim strSQL, strSQLinsert, strSQLselect, strSQLfrom, strSQLcriteria as string
'-*define vars
'+*Initialise vars
strFromTable = "tblFromData"
strInsertTable = "tblInsertedData"
strSQL =""
strSQLinsert = ""
strSQLselect = ""
strSQLfrom = ""
strSQLcriteria = ""
'-*Initialise vars

'create query string
strSQLinsert = strSQLinsert & " INSERT INTO [" & strInsertTable & "] (
SourceTableName, CustID, CustName ) "
strSQLselect = strSQLselect & " SELECT "
strSQLselect = strSQLselect & "'" & strFromTable & "' AS FromTable, "
strSQLselect = strSQLselect & "[" & strFromTable & "].CustID, " 
strSQLselect = strSQLselect & "[" & strFromTable & "].CustName "
strSQLfrom = strSQLfrom & " FROM " & strFromTable

strSQL = strSQLinsert & strSQLselect & strSQLfrom & strSQLcriteria & ";"

'attach string strSQL to a querydef and run it
' Note: I usually use a hidden tmpQuery for this and set its SQL property to

' CurrentDb.QueryDefs("tmpQuery").SQL = strSQL
' CurrentDb.QueryDefs("tmpQuery").Execute
' Or shorter:
DoCmd.SetWarnings False 'suppress warnings about action queries
DoCmd.RunSQL strSQL
DoCmd.SetWarnings True 'switch warning on again

Notes:
- the barckets [] are included to allow names with spaces and other special
characters
- the apostrophe between quotes "'" followed by the tablename and closed
again with "' should return the tablename between quotes.
- As noted by another listmember, you probably have to do some checking on
data quality. Personally I would push that to the delivering agents, e.g. by
spending some time developing consistency checking in the Excel templates
they use for delivery.


Regards

Harry Coenen


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>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
>John W. Colby
>Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:12 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: AccessD Digest, Vol 14, Issue 31
>
>
>Susan,
>
>The way that I deal with this is that I COPY the file to a common name,
>perhaps CountyData.XLS.  Then I link that file to the FE.  
>Build my queries
>to suck the data out.  Run them.  Then there is just a copy of 
>whatever the
>next file name is to CountyData.XLS and run the queries over 
>again.  You
>need a means of interpreting some part of the original file 
>name so that you
>can set the "county field".  Do that 71 times and you are 
>done.  One table
>name, one set of queries, one function for pulling the county 
>name into an
>aliased query field, one routine that copies the file to a 
>common name /
>location.
>
>Is this a manual process?  Is there a naming convention in the 
>excel files?
>
>If not just throw all of the excel files in a directory, copy 
>each one out
>to an archive directory, adding the yyyymmdd string to the 
>name, either at
>the beginning or the end (helps sort the files in date order). 
> Also do the
>copy to a common location / name.  Now write an iterator that 
>finds every
>file in the directory and copies it to archive / common name - 
>location,
>deleting the file in the original directory.  When no files 
>remain, you are
>done.  In order to do this you must have some identifying 
>string in the file
>name however, perhaps the county name as the first N characters.  That
>allows the code to build the "missing" field that is the county in the
>destination table.
>
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Klos, Susan
>Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 3:40 PM
>To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
>Subject: [AccessD] RE: AccessD Digest, Vol 14, Issue 31
>
>
>Robert, I need 71 identical tables because I am getting the 
>same structure
>Excel file from 71 districts.  The structure is the same but 
>the data is
>different.  I want to be able to loop through the tables and 
>append their
>records to one table.
>
>Susan Klos
>Senior Database Analyst
>Evaluation and Reporting
>Florida Department of Education
>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 20 03:52:09 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 10:52:09 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8632C53D@infoserver01.infostat.local>
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8632C53D@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <517039742.20040420105209@cactus.dk>

Hi Susan

Perhaps you On_Open of the report could set the value of a textbox to
the value of your chosen FirstDayOfWeek retrieved from your form; then
use the value of this textbox as a parameter in the function you use
for grouping/sorting in your report.

/gustav


> Sorry, Susan, but I just tuned in. <g>  

> I'm not clear on what you're doing so I'm not being much help.  I do
> dynamic reports for a week period and pass the start date to my report
> then let the report determine what day that is and populate an
> appropriate series of label captions to match.  I base it on a crosstab
> query, rebuilt for each report run, that uses dates as column headings
> and uses parameters to filter the dates.  I set the SQL for that
> crosstab query each time I use a form to call the report (no hand
> tweaking), and I generate an IN list of dates in the specified range to
> create the column headings.  I then use code in the Report_Open event to
> determine which field to bind to which control in the detail of the
> report.  Is that kind of what you're attempting to do?   

> Charlotte Foust

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 11:52 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


 
> You can only group and sort on a field or an expression involving a
> field, and no, you can't use variables.  Had you mentioned the variable
> before? Why not just create a "week" field in the query and group and
> sort on that calculated field.  Then you could use your variable to
> create a filter for the particular week in question.

> ============I'm passing the firstdayoftheweek value from a form to the
> report -- the report's based on a query. So that's the quandry. That's
> what I mentioned in my last message -- the only way I can see around it
> is to pass the value to the query and run the expressions in the query
> first. I'm not sure I know how to do that really -- I have never passed
> anything to a query before -- just called functions from a query. And in
> this case, that's what I'm trying to avoid -- calling the function from
> the query. 

> Susan H. 



From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Apr 20 05:19:05 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 10:19:05 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] cbo after adding data question
Message-ID: <20040420091903.C4D9D2537F4@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Hi Joe

If you have one or two places on the form which can add/alter records and
therefore require the cbo to be requeried then just add:

me!cboWhatever.Requery

at the end of those routines.

Alternatively, and as long as it doesn't cause too much of an overhead, you
can place:

me.ActiveControl.Requery

in the OnGotFocus of the combo itself. You may do more requeries than are
strictly necessary this way, but it pretty much ensures that the combo sees
everything it should.

--
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http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



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To: AccessD <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] cbo after adding data question
Date: 20/04/04 06:53

>
> I have a combo box that pulls up matching records on a form. The data
source
> is a SQL statement not a query.
>
>
>
> After the record is entered where and how should I write the requry
> statement to add the record to the combo box?
>
>
>
> JOE HECHT
>
> LOS ANGELES CA
>
>
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Tue Apr 20 06:41:58 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 07:41:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Report Page Header
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB79@nnse14.nns.com>

The condition where detail records may not exist on the last page of a
report occurs because I have included a sub report in the report footer
which may or may not fit in the available space left over after the details
have completed printing.


Mark
...yikes, seems like a run-on sentence, but also appears to be grammatically
correct? :)


-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 5:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Report Page Header


Mark:

Do you mean no data for the whole report?  If so you can use the No Data
event and issue a DoCmd.CancelEvent command.  That will cancel the whole
report.  Mostly I then have to trap the error 2105 in the calling form.

But what condition would give you  on some detail records on some pages and
not others?

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:10 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Report Page Header


> First, a really stupid question...why is it that Access reports do not
have
> a "Detail Header" section?  It seems simple and to the point for a lot of
> what I do when grouping is not needed.
>
>
> Second, when printing a report, what is the syntax to check if there are
no
> detail records on the page and suppress the Page Header if there are none?
>
>
>
> Mark
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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Tue Apr 20 06:48:01 2004
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 13:48:01 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access
Message-ID: <4879913.1082461681903.JavaMail.www@wwinf3004>

To all,
 
I?m sure one of you out there must have done/attempted this before, I have an export button on my switchboard which exports two text files (ShiftData and DowntimeData) using the TransferText method.  I also have a copy of WinZip 8.0 (or close) installed.
 
What I would like to do is once the text files have been exported I would like to zip them, has anyone any examples etc that I may look at to achieve this.  
 
Also would I also need to download the command line interface for WinZip as well ?
 
Thanks in advance for any help on this.
 
Paul Hartland
Database Designer/Developer.
Join the UK's number one for the internet 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 20 06:56:31 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 07:56:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <517039742.20040420105209@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20040420115630.XNDF1778.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Already tried it -- didn't work. Access will not group on a calculated
control. 

Susan H. 

Hi Susan

Perhaps you On_Open of the report could set the value of a textbox to the
value of your chosen FirstDayOfWeek retrieved from your form; then use the
value of this textbox as a parameter in the function you use for
grouping/sorting in your report.




From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Tue Apr 20 07:00:38 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 08:00:38 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA3082E3B6@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB44B@ADGSERVER>

Hi Paul,

First of all, you need to get version 9.0 of WinZip.  It is a free upgrade.
There was a security issue with all versions below 9.0.

I have not programmatically done what you are talking about, but I have used
the command line version of WinZip to zip various stuff up.

I use batch files to run them.  Here are two examples:

"C:\Program Files\WinZip\wzzip" -a -spasswordhere psts.zip *.pst

"C:\Program Files\WinZip\wzzip" -a willis.zip willis.pst

The first example shows how to Add all *.PST files to an archive (or create
it new if it does not exist) while password protecting the zip file.
The second example is just adding willis.pst to willis.zip.

If I was you, I would create a batch file with the zip commands and whatever
else you need.  Then I would use the shell command from Access to call the
batch file.  I do not have any examples handy of the shell command, but if
you Google it, I'm sure that you'll find something.

If you have downloaded the command-line version of WinZip, there should be
two files that explain the zip and unzip functions.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 7:48 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access


To all,
 
I'm sure one of you out there must have done/attempted this before, I have
an export button on my switchboard which exports two text files (ShiftData
and DowntimeData) using the TransferText method.  I also have a copy of
WinZip 8.0 (or close) installed.
 
What I would like to do is once the text files have been exported I would
like to zip them, has anyone any examples etc that I may look at to achieve
this.  
 
Also would I also need to download the command line interface for WinZip as
well ?
 
Thanks in advance for any help on this.
 
Paul Hartland
Database Designer/Developer.
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 20 07:03:17 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 14:03:17 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040420115630.XNDF1778.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <20040420115630.XNDF1778.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <7618507963.20040420140317@cactus.dk>

Hi Susan

It will not be calculated but unbound ... you set the value from code.

/gustav


> Already tried it -- didn't work. Access will not group on a calculated
> control. 

> Susan H. 

> Hi Susan

> Perhaps you On_Open of the report could set the value of a textbox to the
> value of your chosen FirstDayOfWeek retrieved from your form; then use the
> value of this textbox as a parameter in the function you use for
> grouping/sorting in your report.



From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Tue Apr 20 07:04:39 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 08:04:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Report Page Header
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB7A@nnse14.nns.com>

I realize I can add a group header, but can I do so without actually sorting
or grouping?  For this report I have the field headers in the page header.
I want to be able to suppress that page header when there are no detail
records to be printed for that page.  This is not the same as on no data.

For instance, let's assume a full page of details contains 80 records.  The
first page, because of the report header can only accommodate 60 records.
The last page, because of the size of the report footer, can also
accommodate 60 records.  If my report only contains 60 records, the report
length will still be 2 pages but no details will be on the second page.
Currently, because I am utilizing the page header to hold the field headers,
the page header will print on the second page.  In the above case, how do I
suppress the page header if no detail records are on the page?



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert L. Stewart [mailto:rl_stewart at highstream.net] 
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 5:01 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Report Page Header


In a band report writer, which Access is, the detail header is in the 
grouping header just above it.  You have to make it visible.

There is a event in the report for No data.  You would put code in that 
event to handle what ever you wanted to do there.

Robert

At 03:42 PM 4/19/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 16:10:22 -0400
>From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
>Subject: [AccessD] Report Page Header
>To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at DatabaseAdvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB78 at nnse14.nns.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain
>
>First, a really stupid question...why is it that Access reports do not have
>a "Detail Header" section?  It seems simple and to the point for a lot of
>what I do when grouping is not needed.
>
>
>Second, when printing a report, what is the syntax to check if there are no
>detail records on the page and suppress the Page Header if there are none?
>
>


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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 20 07:09:02 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 22:09:02 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access
In-Reply-To: <4879913.1082461681903.JavaMail.www@wwinf3004>
Message-ID: <40859F7E.14268.2CA3E11@localhost>

On 20 Apr 2004 at 13:48, paul.hartland at fsmail.net wrote:

> To all, I?m sure one of you out there must have done/attempted this
> before, I have an export button on my switchboard which exports two
> text files (ShiftData and DowntimeData) using the TransferText method.
>  I also have a copy of WinZip 8.0 (or close) installed. What I would
> like to do is once the text files have been exported I would like to
> zip them, has anyone any examples etc that I may look at to achieve
> this.  Also would I also need to download the command line interface
> for WinZip as well ? 

Simplest way is to upgrade to  the latest Winzip (ver 9.0) and also 
grab the "WinZip Command Line Support Add-On".  (You current Winzip 
rego will still be valid with Ver 9.0)

Then all you need to do is something like:

RetVal = Shell("'C:\Program Files\Winzip\Wzzip.exe'  MyFiles.zip 
File1.txt File2.txt",0)







 
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Support.





From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 20 07:18:03 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 08:18:03 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <7618507963.20040420140317@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20040420121802.XUVJ1778.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Gustav, I think I must be missing something in this discussion. I hate to
bring us to this level, but how would I do that? I can not get the
sorting/grouping dialog to accept an unbound control. I guess I'm being
truly dull... 

Originally, I used code to set the value, but I still couldn't group by the
results. 

Susan H. 

Hi Susan

It will not be calculated but unbound ... you set the value from code.

/gustav





From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 20 07:35:09 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 22:35:09 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040420115630.XNDF1778.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <517039742.20040420105209@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <4085A59D.24333.2E22823@localhost>

On 20 Apr 2004 at 7:56, Susan Harkins wrote:

> Already tried it -- didn't work. Access will not group on a calculated
> control. 
> 

Yes it will.

Try this.
1. Create a static function in a module:

Static Function FirstDayOfWeek(Optional DOW As Long = -1) As Long
Dim lngDOWStore As Long
If DOW > -1 Then
  lngDOWStore = DOW
End If
FirstDayOfWeek = lngDOWStore
End Function

2. In the Sorting Grouping Window of your report,set the first 
"Field/Expression" to "=DatePart("ww",[MyDate],FirstDayOfWeek())" and 
set Group Header  = "Yes".
Set the second  Field/Expression to "MyDate"

3. In the Group header, put a text box with a control source of
=" Week No: " & DatePart("ww",[MyDate],FirstDayOfWeek())

4. In the detail section put a textbox with a control source of 
[MyDate]

5. Put a  button and a Combobox (cboWeekday) on the form you call the 
report from.

Set the combo:
Column Count = 2
Column Widths = 0,1 (assuming you are using inches)
Row Source Type = Value List
Row Source = 
1;Sunday;2;Monday;3;Tuesday;4;Wednesday;5;Thursday;6;Friday;7;Saturday

5. In your button on_click event in the form put:

Dim lngRetVal as long
lngRetVal =  FirstDayOfWeek(cboWeekday) 
Docmd.OpenReport "MyReport",acPreview







 
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From pharryecoenen at btinternet.com  Tue Apr 20 08:42:12 2004
From: pharryecoenen at btinternet.com (Harry Coenen)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 14:42:12 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Handling strings in VBA SQL scripts?
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAL9Kwp6bii0K2NXFiQtqufcKAAAAQAAAADUNdbmLFOUKmy64+rXjjiQEAAAAA@btinternet.com>

Hi All

I am searching for a function that determines the need for barcketing and
need for apostrophing/stringing of variable names. For example a tablename
stored in variable strTableName with value "table1" would not need
bracketing, while value "table 1" definitly needs bracketing, e.g. as part
of an SQL string "FROM [" & strTableName & "]".  

To make it a bit more difficult the value could also be "John's Table". This
would cause problems when we need to string the variable in an SQL string,
e.g. "SELECT '" & strTableName & "' AS TableName, " would result in "SELECT
'Peter's table' AS FromTable," which obviously is not correct, it should be
"SELECT 'Peter''s table' AS FromTable,".  It would also cause problems when
we decide to code using something like rst(strTableName).

Up until now I either avoided the problem by forcing users to use
unproblematic names, or developed one of solutions dependent on the data
(hoping that they would not change their naming conventions.

Thanks to Skrol29 (http://www.skrol29.com/) and Juan M. Af?n deRibera
(http://www.mvp-access.com/juanmafan/) I am aware of WizHook.IsValidIdent
and WizHook.BracketString for testing valid variable names.  But Wizhook is
an undocumented feature.  I am also aware of tools which "string" a string
for you, e.g. CodeCrafter or the MS VBA String Editor that can do this with
a static string during design time.
But I was wondering if someone has found the time to find a more generic
solution.

The following gives my proto-analysis:

Function OutputString (strInputString as String,
                      Optional intFlag as Integer = 0,
                      Optional strStringChar As String = '"') AS string
' ============================
' Arguments:
' strInputString : the string to be converted
' intFlag        : the type of conversion
'                   0 = standard string conversion converting apostrophes
'                   1 = just bracketing for filename
'                   and others that could be useful
' strStringChar  : the character to be used as start and close of the string

'                  standard "
'============================
' PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS
' If intFlag = 1 Then
'   check if bracketing is needed
'   check for a the appearance of a list of characters in the string (which
characters?)
'   if one appears, at least bracket
' Else
'   if apostrophe appears double it
' Endif
End Function

Further note: Probably the function should return a Boolean indicating
success or failure of the action while the result is transfered to the
caller by other means. How?

Many thanks in advance

Harry Coenen



From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Tue Apr 20 08:48:39 2004
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 15:48:39 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access Again.
Message-ID: <8320091.1082468919101.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>

To all,
 
Thanks for all your help with my last WinZip question, however now I need to know where I am going wrong.  I have the following code in my application:
 
    Dim strShiftData As String
    Dim strDownTime As String
    Dim wzFinal As String
    Dim wzFiles
    
    strShiftData = "C:\Shifts_" & Replace(DATE, "/", "") & "_" & Replace(Time(), ":", "") & ".txt"
    strDownTime = "C:\Down_" & Replace(DATE, "/", "") & "_" & Replace(Time(), ":", "") & ".txt"
    
    DoCmd.TransferText acExportDelim, , "qryNewExportShiftDataToText", strShiftData, True
    DoCmd.TransferText acExportDelim, , "qryNewExportDownTimeToText", strDownTime, True
    
    wzFinal = "C:\Branston" & Replace(DATE, "/", "") & Replace(Time(), ":", "")
    
    wzFiles = Shell("C:\Program Files\Winzip\Wzzip.exe  " & wzFinal & " " & strShiftData & " " & strDownTime, 0)
 
    MsgBox ?Finshed Export?,,?**** User Message ? Export Complete ****?
 
However I can?t seem to see any zip file on my C: drive, and I get no error message.  Can someone please see where I am going wrong here.  I have WinZip 9.0 and the Command Line Interface installed.
 
Thanks in advance for all your help.
 
Paul Hartland
Database Designer/Developer.
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From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Tue Apr 20 09:06:45 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Developer)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 10:06:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Handling strings in VBA SQL scripts?
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAL9Kwp6bii0K2NXFiQtqufcKAAAAQAAAADUNdbmLFOUKmy64+rXjjiQEAAAAA@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <000901c426e0$ba0dc190$6401a8c0@COA3>

There's no-harm/no-foul to have extra brackets as a saftey measure.
Combined with the Replace function (A2k+) ... I would just do:

"SELECT '" & replace(strTableName, "'","''") & "' as tablename " & _ 
"FROM [" & strTableName & "]"

hth
Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Harry Coenen
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 9:42 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Handling strings in VBA SQL scripts?


Hi All

I am searching for a function that determines the need for barcketing
and need for apostrophing/stringing of variable names. For example a
tablename stored in variable strTableName with value "table1" would not
need bracketing, while value "table 1" definitly needs bracketing, e.g.
as part of an SQL string "FROM [" & strTableName & "]".  

To make it a bit more difficult the value could also be "John's Table".
This would cause problems when we need to string the variable in an SQL
string, e.g. "SELECT '" & strTableName & "' AS TableName, " would result
in "SELECT 'Peter's table' AS FromTable," which obviously is not
correct, it should be "SELECT 'Peter''s table' AS FromTable,".  It would
also cause problems when we decide to code using something like
rst(strTableName).

Up until now I either avoided the problem by forcing users to use
unproblematic names, or developed one of solutions dependent on the data
(hoping that they would not change their naming conventions.

Thanks to Skrol29 (http://www.skrol29.com/) and Juan M. Af?n deRibera
(http://www.mvp-access.com/juanmafan/) I am aware of
WizHook.IsValidIdent and WizHook.BracketString for testing valid
variable names.  But Wizhook is an undocumented feature.  I am also
aware of tools which "string" a string for you, e.g. CodeCrafter or the
MS VBA String Editor that can do this with a static string during design
time. But I was wondering if someone has found the time to find a more
generic solution.

The following gives my proto-analysis:

Function OutputString (strInputString as String,
                      Optional intFlag as Integer = 0,
                      Optional strStringChar As String = '"') AS string
' ============================ ' Arguments: ' strInputString : the
string to be converted
' intFlag        : the type of conversion
'                   0 = standard string conversion converting
apostrophes
'                   1 = just bracketing for filename
'                   and others that could be useful
' strStringChar  : the character to be used as start and close of the
string

'                  standard "
'============================
' PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS
' If intFlag = 1 Then
'   check if bracketing is needed
'   check for a the appearance of a list of characters in the string
(which
characters?)
'   if one appears, at least bracket
' Else
'   if apostrophe appears double it
' Endif
End Function

Further note: Probably the function should return a Boolean indicating
success or failure of the action while the result is transfered to the
caller by other means. How?

Many thanks in advance

Harry Coenen

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 20 09:12:58 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 16:12:58 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Handling strings in VBA SQL scripts?
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAL9Kwp6bii0K2NXFiQtqufcKAAAAQAAAADUNdbmLFOUKmy64+rXjjiQEAAAAA@btinternet.com>
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Message-ID: <8226288030.20040420161258@cactus.dk>

Hi Harry

> I am searching for a function that determines the need for barcketing and
> need for apostrophing/stringing of variable names. For example a tablename
> stored in variable strTableName with value "table1" would not need
> bracketing, while value "table 1" definitly needs bracketing, e.g. as part
> of an SQL string "FROM [" & strTableName & "]".

Brackets don't harm, so just apply them if you feel they could be
needed.

> To make it a bit more difficult the value could also be "John's Table". This
> would cause problems when we need to string the variable in an SQL string,
> e.g. "SELECT '" & strTableName & "' AS TableName, " would result in "SELECT
> 'Peter's table' AS FromTable," which obviously is not correct, it should be
> "SELECT 'Peter''s table' AS FromTable,".  It would also cause problems when
> we decide to code using something like rst(strTableName).

J?rgen Welz have posted a proven clean-up function for this purpose:

A problem with the """" or chr$(34) and such solutions is that if you have a
string with apostrophes in it, like "John O'Conner" or "8' 4" Block Wall", 
the sql/find/dAgg will choke.  My users are accustomed to mixing both quotes 
and apostrophes in their input fields (although we are metric here, we still 
get a fair bit of feet and inches stuff and our new Seattle office is 
definitely going to be using imperial units of measure).  The 97 ADH has a 
general solution for fixing mixed quotes and apostrophes.... but it doesn't 
work.  I use:

<quote>

Function fnFixQuotes(Srch As String) As String
    Dim strout As String
    Dim Qt As String
    Dim IntI As Integer

    Qt = """"
    For IntI = 1 To Len(Srch)
        If InStr(Chr$(34), Mid$(Srch, IntI, 1)) Then
            strout = strout & Chr$(34) & "& Chr$(34) &" & Chr$(34)
        Else
            strout = strout & Mid$(Srch, IntI, 1)
        End If
    Next
    fnFixQuotes = Qt & strout & Qt
End Function

An example of how it's called with wildcards to find a string anywhere in a 
field:

Private Sub txtNameCrit_AfterUpdate()
    Dim strCrit As String
    If Not IsNull(Me.txtNameCrit) Then
        strCrit = Me.txtNameCrit
        strCrit = fnFixQuotes("*" & strCrit & "*")
    Else
        strCrit = ""
    End If
    Call GetCompanies(strCrit)
End Sub

Private Sub GetCompanies(strIn)
    Dim strSql As String
    With Me
       If len(strCrit) Then
        strSql = "SELECT CompanyID, CompanyName FROM tblCompany WHERE 
CompanyID > 0 AND " & _
                            "Deleted = False AND CompanyName Like " & strIn 
& " ORDER BY CompanyName WITH OWNERACCESS OPTION"
        .lstAvailable.RowSource = strSql
        .lstAvailable.SetFocus
       Else
          'sql without criteria
       End if
    End With
End Sub

If you use a function like this to generate your delimiters, it is 
completely unnecessary to use special delimiters in your sql/find/dAgg code. 
  I've never written a fix to the pipe character (which chokes any sql) but 
that can be mostly fixed by replacing it a token).  You can write a more 
generic procedure yet that will choose your date or string delimiters and 
apply them where necessary.  I always thought that if you declared a 
variable as a string, Access should implicitly add the delimiters.  It would 
have been easy enough for them to build in an internal delimiter function to 
look after this ubiquitous issue.

Ciao
J?rgen Welz
Edmonton, Alberta

</quote>

/gustav



From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 20 09:15:51 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 16:15:51 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Access utils and add-ins (was: Handling strings in VBA
	SQL scripts?)
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Message-ID: <12126461489.20040420161551@cactus.dk>

Hi Harry

Nice collection of utils, add-ins, and code at those links!

/gustav

> Thanks to Skrol29
> (http://www.skrol29.com/)
> and Juan M. Af?n deRibera
> (http://www.mvp-access.com/juanmafan/) ..



From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca  Tue Apr 20 09:17:01 2004
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 10:17:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Form Opening Time
Message-ID: <s084f8ab.054@cbc.ca>

Can anyone explain, or give a possible idea why Turning Jet's SHOWPLAN
on in the registry, will make a form open in 1/3 of the time it took
prior to turning it on?

It now takes about 7 seconds to open, but before it was 22-24 secords.

Any ideas? I had turned on SHOWPLAN to try and see if any of the
queries were causing the slowdown in opening.

Thanks,

Bryan Carbonnell
bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca


From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 20 09:27:25 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 16:27:25 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access Again.
In-Reply-To: <8320091.1082468919101.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>
References: <8320091.1082468919101.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>
Message-ID: <19827155687.20040420162725@cactus.dk>

Hi paul

First, use Format() for creating strings from dates!

Second, you probably need quotes around your file names as some of
them contains spaces.

Use Debug.Print:

  strQuote = Chr(34)
  strCommand =
    strQuote & "C:\Program Files\Winzip\Wzzip.exe" & strQuote & " " &
    strQuote & wzFinal & strQuote & " " &
    strQuote & strShiftData & strQuote & " " &
    strQuote & strDownTime & strQuote
  Debug.Print strCommand
  wzFiles = Shell(strCommand, 0)

Remove line breaks above!

/gustav


> Thanks for all your help with my last WinZip question, however now I need to know where I am going wrong.  I have the following code in my application:
 
>     Dim strShiftData As String
>     Dim strDownTime As String
>     Dim wzFinal As String
>     Dim wzFiles
    
>     strShiftData = "C:\Shifts_" & Replace(DATE, "/", "") & "_" & Replace(Time(), ":", "") & ".txt"
>     strDownTime = "C:\Down_" & Replace(DATE, "/", "") & "_" & Replace(Time(), ":", "") & ".txt"
    
>     DoCmd.TransferText acExportDelim, , "qryNewExportShiftDataToText", strShiftData, True
>     DoCmd.TransferText acExportDelim, , "qryNewExportDownTimeToText", strDownTime, True
    
>     wzFinal = "C:\Branston" & Replace(DATE, "/", "") & Replace(Time(), ":", "")
    
>     wzFiles = Shell("C:\Program Files\Winzip\Wzzip.exe  " & wzFinal & " " & strShiftData & " " & strDownTime, 0)
 
>     MsgBox ?Finshed Export?,,?**** User Message ? Export Complete ****?
 
> However I can?t seem to see any zip file on my C: drive, and I get no error message.  Can someone please see where I am going wrong here.  I have WinZip 9.0 and the Command Line Interface installed.



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 20 09:36:20 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 10:36:20 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <4085A59D.24333.2E22823@localhost>
Message-ID: <20040420143620.WZYO1779.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Try this.
1. Create a static function in a module:

Static Function FirstDayOfWeek(Optional DOW As Long = -1) As Long Dim
lngDOWStore As Long If DOW > -1 Then
  lngDOWStore = DOW
End If
FirstDayOfWeek = lngDOWStore
End Function

============I already have a function and it works. You're just moving the
function call from the query to the report, but if there's a good
development reason for doing so I'm open to it. 

Susan H. 



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Apr 20 09:42:28 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 07:42:28 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
References: <20040420115630.XNDF1778.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <00bc01c426e5$b46b8c90$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Susan:

When I run into this problem I have to add the calculation to the query
that's the recordsource for the report.  Then I can group and sort on it.

Rocky

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Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


> Already tried it -- didn't work. Access will not group on a calculated
> control.
>
> Susan H.
>
> Hi Susan
>
> Perhaps you On_Open of the report could set the value of a textbox to the
> value of your chosen FirstDayOfWeek retrieved from your form; then use the
> value of this textbox as a parameter in the function you use for
> grouping/sorting in your report.
>
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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Tue Apr 20 09:50:25 2004
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 16:50:25 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access Again.
Message-ID: <22375148.1082472625109.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>

Thanks for the fast response Gustav, still getting same problem though.  Text files exporting but no WinZip file to be seen, and no error message...






Message date : Apr 20 2004, 03:37 PM
>From : "Gustav Brock" 
To : "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
Copy to : 
Subject : Re: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access Again.
Hi paul

First, use Format() for creating strings from dates!

Second, you probably need quotes around your file names as some of
them contains spaces.

Use Debug.Print:

strQuote = Chr(34)
strCommand =
strQuote & "C:\Program Files\Winzip\Wzzip.exe" & strQuote & " " &
strQuote & wzFinal & strQuote & " " &
strQuote & strShiftData & strQuote & " " &
strQuote & strDownTime & strQuote
Debug.Print strCommand
wzFiles = Shell(strCommand, 0)

Remove line breaks above!

/gustav


> Thanks for all your help with my last WinZip question, however now I need to know where I am going wrong. I have the following code in my application:

> Dim strShiftData As String
> Dim strDownTime As String
> Dim wzFinal As String
> Dim wzFiles

> strShiftData = "C:\Shifts_" & Replace(DATE, "/", "") & "_" & Replace(Time(), ":", "") & ".txt"
> strDownTime = "C:\Down_" & Replace(DATE, "/", "") & "_" & Replace(Time(), ":", "") & ".txt"

> DoCmd.TransferText acExportDelim, , "qryNewExportShiftDataToText", strShiftData, True
> DoCmd.TransferText acExportDelim, , "qryNewExportDownTimeToText", strDownTime, True

> wzFinal = "C:\Branston" & Replace(DATE, "/", "") & Replace(Time(), ":", "")

> wzFiles = Shell("C:\Program Files\Winzip\Wzzip.exe " & wzFinal & " " & strShiftData & " " & strDownTime, 0)

> MsgBox ?Finshed Export?,,?**** User Message ? Export Complete ****?

> However I can?t seem to see any zip file on my C: drive, and I get no error message. Can someone please see where I am going wrong here. I have WinZip 9.0 and the Command Line Interface installed.

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 20 09:53:14 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 16:53:14 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <00bc01c426e5$b46b8c90$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
References: <20040420115630.XNDF1778.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
	<00bc01c426e5$b46b8c90$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <14628704544.20040420165314@cactus.dk>

Hi Rocky

> When I run into this problem I have to add the calculation to the query
> that's the recordsource for the report.  Then I can group and sort on it.

Hmmm ... you should sort in the report, not in the query (except for
the sorting caused by grouping, of course).

/gustav



From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Tue Apr 20 10:03:40 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 11:03:40 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access Again.
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA3082E443@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB450@ADGSERVER>

Using Gustav's code, make sure that you get something out like this in your
string:

'C:\Program Files\Winzip\Wzzip.exe' 'C:\Branston0419041100.zip' 'Shiftsxxx'

It also looks like your code id not putting a ".zip" on the end of wzfinal.

Bobby

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paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 10:50 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: Re: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access Again.


Thanks for the fast response Gustav, still getting same problem though.
Text files exporting but no WinZip file to be seen, and no error message...






Message date : Apr 20 2004, 03:37 PM
>From : "Gustav Brock"
To : "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
Copy to : 
Subject : Re: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access Again.
Hi paul

First, use Format() for creating strings from dates!

Second, you probably need quotes around your file names as some of them
contains spaces.

Use Debug.Print:

strQuote = Chr(34)
strCommand =
strQuote & "C:\Program Files\Winzip\Wzzip.exe" & strQuote & " " & strQuote &
wzFinal & strQuote & " " & strQuote & strShiftData & strQuote & " " &
strQuote & strDownTime & strQuote Debug.Print strCommand wzFiles =
Shell(strCommand, 0)

Remove line breaks above!

/gustav


> Thanks for all your help with my last WinZip question, however now I 
> need to know where I am going wrong. I have the following code in my 
> application:

> Dim strShiftData As String
> Dim strDownTime As String
> Dim wzFinal As String
> Dim wzFiles

> strShiftData = "C:\Shifts_" & Replace(DATE, "/", "") & "_" & 
> Replace(Time(), ":", "") & ".txt" strDownTime = "C:\Down_" & 
> Replace(DATE, "/", "") & "_" & Replace(Time(), ":", "") & ".txt"

> DoCmd.TransferText acExportDelim, , "qryNewExportShiftDataToText", 
> strShiftData, True DoCmd.TransferText acExportDelim, , 
> "qryNewExportDownTimeToText", strDownTime, True

> wzFinal = "C:\Branston" & Replace(DATE, "/", "") & Replace(Time(), 
> ":", "")

> wzFiles = Shell("C:\Program Files\Winzip\Wzzip.exe " & wzFinal & " " & 
> strShiftData & " " & strDownTime, 0)

> MsgBox "Finshed Export",,"**** User Message - Export Complete ****"

> However I can't seem to see any zip file on my C: drive, and I get no 
> error message. Can someone please see where I am going wrong here. I 
> have WinZip 9.0 and the Command Line Interface installed.

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Apr 20 10:19:21 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 08:19:21 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
References: <20040420115630.XNDF1778.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
	<00bc01c426e5$b46b8c90$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
	<14628704544.20040420165314@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <012201c426ea$db54b160$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Right.  Except when I need to sort or group on an unbound control.  That's
when I have to add it to the query and bind the control to that field in the
query.

Rocky

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From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
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Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 7:53 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


> Hi Rocky
>
> > When I run into this problem I have to add the calculation to the query
> > that's the recordsource for the report.  Then I can group and sort on
it.
>
> Hmmm ... you should sort in the report, not in the query (except for
> the sorting caused by grouping, of course).
>
> /gustav
>
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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Tue Apr 20 10:39:37 2004
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 17:39:37 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access
Message-ID: <1861111.1082475577664.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>

To all,
 
Thanks for everybody?s help on this I now know what the problem is.  We are using an Evaluation copy of Winzip, if I set the focus of the Shell command below to vbMaximizedFocus:
 
strCommand = "C:\Program Files\Winzip\Wzzip.exe " & wzFinal & " " & strShiftData & " " & strDownTime & vbCrLf
            wzFiles = Shell(strCommand, vbMaximizedFocus)
 
A message appears in the window with press any key to continue, and if I press any key it works perfect.  Is there anyway I can include the keypress into the Shell Command.  If I can get this to work automatically then I should be able to convince the powers that be to invest in the fully registered version.  
 
Thanks again for everyone?s help on this
 
Paul Hartland
Database Designer/Developer
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Tue Apr 20 10:52:27 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 11:52:27 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Report Page Header
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB7E@nnse14.nns.com>

Is there no way to test for detail records printed on a report page, and,
then based on that, hide the page header?



Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark 
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 8:05 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: Report Page Header


I realize I can add a group header, but can I do so without actually sorting
or grouping?  For this report I have the field headers in the page header.
I want to be able to suppress that page header when there are no detail
records to be printed for that page.  This is not the same as on no data.

For instance, let's assume a full page of details contains 80 records.  The
first page, because of the report header can only accommodate 60 records.
The last page, because of the size of the report footer, can also
accommodate 60 records.  If my report only contains 60 records, the report
length will still be 2 pages but no details will be on the second page.
Currently, because I am utilizing the page header to hold the field headers,
the page header will print on the second page.  In the above case, how do I
suppress the page header if no detail records are on the page?



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert L. Stewart [mailto:rl_stewart at highstream.net] 
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 5:01 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Report Page Header


In a band report writer, which Access is, the detail header is in the 
grouping header just above it.  You have to make it visible.

There is a event in the report for No data.  You would put code in that 
event to handle what ever you wanted to do there.

Robert

At 03:42 PM 4/19/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 16:10:22 -0400
>From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
>Subject: [AccessD] Report Page Header
>To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at DatabaseAdvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB78 at nnse14.nns.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain
>
>First, a really stupid question...why is it that Access reports do not have
>a "Detail Header" section?  It seems simple and to the point for a lot of
>what I do when grouping is not needed.
>
>
>Second, when printing a report, what is the syntax to check if there are no
>detail records on the page and suppress the Page Header if there are none?
>
>


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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 20 10:53:47 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 17:53:47 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access
In-Reply-To: <1861111.1082475577664.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>
References: <1861111.1082475577664.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>
Message-ID: <1932337508.20040420175347@cactus.dk>

Hi paul

> Thanks for everybody?s help on this I now know what the problem is.  We are using an Evaluation copy of Winzip, if I set the focus of the Shell command below to vbMaximizedFocus:
 
> strCommand = "C:\Program Files\Winzip\Wzzip.exe " & wzFinal & " " & strShiftData & " " & strDownTime & vbCrLf
>             wzFiles = Shell(strCommand, vbMaximizedFocus)
 
> A message appears in the window with press any key to continue, and if I press any key it works perfect.  Is there anyway I can include the keypress into the Shell Command.  If I can get this to
> work automatically then I should be able to convince the powers that be to invest in the fully registered version.  
 
> Thanks again for everyone?s help on this

Fine!

If you don't need WinZip for anything else than this, do as we do, use
a freeware command line zip'er like ZIP.EXE (115 K size only):

---

C:\WINNT\TEMP>zip -L
Copyright (C) 1990-1997 Mark Adler, Richard B. Wales, Jean-loup Gailly,
Onno van der Linden and Kai Uwe Rommel.
Type 'zip -L' for the software License.

Permission is granted to any individual or institution to use, copy, or
redistribute this executable so long as it is not modified and that it is
not sold for profit.

LIKE ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S FREE, ZIP AND ITS ASSOCIATED UTILITIES ARE
PROVIDED AS IS AND COME WITH NO WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESSED OR
IMPLIED. IN NO EVENT WILL THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES
RESULTING FROM THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE.

---

Command line for ZIP.EXE is the same as you have already.

/gustav



From KIsmert at TexasSystems.com  Tue Apr 20 11:23:11 2004
From: KIsmert at TexasSystems.com (Ken Ismert)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 11:23:11 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Changing the table in a query so I
	canloopthrough	thequery
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040419155057.02af21f8@pop3.highstream.net>
Message-ID: <001a01c426f3$c6ac5e30$2a3ca8c0@TEXASSYSTEMS.COM>


Yes. They are the parts tables for our Bill of Materials system. They are
organized by type: tbl023 is Gaskets, tbl076 is Transformers, etc. The
tables are structurally identical, with room for 8 attributes. Needless to
say, one size does not fit all: tbl006, Elbows, requires 3 attributes, while
tbl003, Heaters, requires over 30! The solution to the latter problem is, of
course, more bad design: either create an auxiliary table to hold the extra
attributes, or dump them into a big note field.

Welcome to my inherited mess!

-Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert L. Stewart [mailto:rl_stewart at highstream.net]
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 3:53 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Changing the table in a query so I canloopthrough
thequery


Ken,

You have been in my SIG long enough to know that is a resounding YES, it is
a bad design.  But, do you actually populate all 140 tables with the same
data like she is doing?

Robert



From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 20 11:27:30 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 18:27:30 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Report Page Header
In-Reply-To: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB7E@nnse14.nns.com>
References: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB7E@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <15834360357.20040420182730@cactus.dk>

Hi Mark

> Is there no way to test for detail records printed on a report page, and,
> then based on that, hide the page header?

This is not a page header but a group header.

Create a dummy group with your labels:
Set Field/Expression to  =True
Set Group Header to Yes.

In the report, adjust the group's layout properties:

Set Keep Together to False
Set Repeat Section to True

/gustav


> I realize I can add a group header, but can I do so without actually sorting
> or grouping?  For this report I have the field headers in the page header.
> I want to be able to suppress that page header when there are no detail
> records to be printed for that page.  This is not the same as on no data.

> For instance, let's assume a full page of details contains 80 records.  The
> first page, because of the report header can only accommodate 60 records.
> The last page, because of the size of the report footer, can also
> accommodate 60 records.  If my report only contains 60 records, the report
> length will still be 2 pages but no details will be on the second page.
> Currently, because I am utilizing the page header to hold the field headers,
> the page header will print on the second page.  In the above case, how do I
> suppress the page header if no detail records are on the page?



From pjones at btl.net  Tue Apr 20 11:25:14 2004
From: pjones at btl.net (Paul M. Jones)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 10:25:14 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] cbo after adding data question
In-Reply-To: <000501c42695$b3109ed0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
References: <000501c42695$b3109ed0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20040420102249.02b72490@btlmail.btl.net>

for situations like this I usually place the SQL statement in code rather 
than the control properties at design time.

I then populate the row source on 'enter' of the combo box.  Of course 
there are some overhead associated with this but I always get fresh 
data.  I can also populate the combo box based on values in other fields 
using this approach.

Paul M. Jones

At 11:09 PM 04/19/2004, you wrote:
>I have a combo box that pulls up matching records on a form. The data source
>is a SQL statement not a query.
>
>
>
>After the record is entered where and how should I write the requry
>statement to add the record to the combo box?
>
>
>
>JOE HECHT
>
>LOS ANGELES CA
>
>
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Apr 20 11:36:20 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 11:36:20 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227AEE@main2.marlow.com>

Winzip is only like $25.  I had the same issue, and decided that spending
the few bucks to get a registered copy of Winzip was a better 'deal' then
wasting time trying to code around the unregistered limitation.

Turns out there is a LOT more available in the registered version of Winzip
too.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 10:40 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access


To all,
 
Thanks for everybody's help on this I now know what the problem is.  We are
using an Evaluation copy of Winzip, if I set the focus of the Shell command
below to vbMaximizedFocus:
 
strCommand = "C:\Program Files\Winzip\Wzzip.exe " & wzFinal & " " &
strShiftData & " " & strDownTime & vbCrLf
            wzFiles = Shell(strCommand, vbMaximizedFocus)
 
A message appears in the window with press any key to continue, and if I
press any key it works perfect.  Is there anyway I can include the keypress
into the Shell Command.  If I can get this to work automatically then I
should be able to convince the powers that be to invest in the fully
registered version.  
 
Thanks again for everyone's help on this
 
Paul Hartland
Database Designer/Developer
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Tue Apr 20 11:41:45 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 12:41:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Report Page Header
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB7F@nnse14.nns.com>

Interesting...works like a charm, but this approach doesn't seem intuitive
to me.  Is this common practice?


Thanks,

Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 12:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Re: Report Page Header


Hi Mark

> Is there no way to test for detail records printed on a report page, and,
> then based on that, hide the page header?

This is not a page header but a group header.

Create a dummy group with your labels:
Set Field/Expression to  =True
Set Group Header to Yes.

In the report, adjust the group's layout properties:

Set Keep Together to False
Set Repeat Section to True

/gustav


> I realize I can add a group header, but can I do so without actually
sorting
> or grouping?  For this report I have the field headers in the page header.
> I want to be able to suppress that page header when there are no detail
> records to be printed for that page.  This is not the same as on no data.

> For instance, let's assume a full page of details contains 80 records.
The
> first page, because of the report header can only accommodate 60 records.
> The last page, because of the size of the report footer, can also
> accommodate 60 records.  If my report only contains 60 records, the report
> length will still be 2 pages but no details will be on the second page.
> Currently, because I am utilizing the page header to hold the field
headers,
> the page header will print on the second page.  In the above case, how do
I
> suppress the page header if no detail records are on the page?

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 20 12:00:39 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 19:00:39 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Report Page Header
In-Reply-To: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB7F@nnse14.nns.com>
References: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB7F@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <17936349908.20040420190039@cactus.dk>

Hi Mark

> Interesting...works like a charm, but this approach doesn't seem intuitive
> to me.  Is this common practice?

I have never used it. But I've used grouping by the detail to be able
to show/hide some lines dependant on the current detail.

/gustav


>> Is there no way to test for detail records printed on a report page, and,
>> then based on that, hide the page header?

> This is not a page header but a group header.

> Create a dummy group with your labels:
> Set Field/Expression to  =True
> Set Group Header to Yes.

> In the report, adjust the group's layout properties:

> Set Keep Together to False
> Set Repeat Section to True

> /gustav


>> I realize I can add a group header, but can I do so without actually sorting
>> or grouping?  For this report I have the field headers in the page header.
>> I want to be able to suppress that page header when there are no detail
>> records to be printed for that page.  This is not the same as on no data.

>> For instance, let's assume a full page of details contains 80 records. The
>> first page, because of the report header can only accommodate 60 records.
>> The last page, because of the size of the report footer, can also
>> accommodate 60 records.  If my report only contains 60 records, the report
>> length will still be 2 pages but no details will be on the second page.
>> Currently, because I am utilizing the page header to hold the field headers,
>> the page header will print on the second page.  In the above case, how do> I
>> suppress the page header if no detail records are on the page?



From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Tue Apr 20 12:02:00 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 12:02:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Report Page Header
Message-ID: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE51D@TAPPEEXCH01>

Don't know if it's common practice, but I commonly use dummy headers in my
reports.  For example, I have a quote that consists of 6 different sections,
which can be selectively hidden by the user from a print dialog.  I name my
report sections with a string literal as the control source:

="Table of Contents"
="Pricing Plan"
="Terms of Payment"
...

Remember that a group control source can consist of a field name, function,
string, etc.  Anything that will evaluate at runtime.  My string literals
will never change throughout the course of printing the report, thus the
section only prints once.


-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 11:42 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: Report Page Header

Interesting...works like a charm, but this approach doesn't seem intuitive
to me.  Is this common practice?


Thanks,

Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 12:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Re: Report Page Header


Hi Mark

> Is there no way to test for detail records printed on a report page, and,
> then based on that, hide the page header?

This is not a page header but a group header.

Create a dummy group with your labels:
Set Field/Expression to  =True
Set Group Header to Yes.

In the report, adjust the group's layout properties:

Set Keep Together to False
Set Repeat Section to True

/gustav


> I realize I can add a group header, but can I do so without actually
sorting
> or grouping?  For this report I have the field headers in the page header.
> I want to be able to suppress that page header when there are no detail
> records to be printed for that page.  This is not the same as on no data.

> For instance, let's assume a full page of details contains 80 records.
The
> first page, because of the report header can only accommodate 60 records.
> The last page, because of the size of the report footer, can also
> accommodate 60 records.  If my report only contains 60 records, the report
> length will still be 2 pages but no details will be on the second page.
> Currently, because I am utilizing the page header to hold the field
headers,
> the page header will print on the second page.  In the above case, how do
I
> suppress the page header if no detail records are on the page?


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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Tue Apr 20 12:10:10 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 13:10:10 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA3082E48C@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB452@ADGSERVER>

I second that!  I use WinZip every day.  I figured that as much as I use it,
the $20 something registration was dirt cheap.  You also get free upgrades
(for life, I think).

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 12:36 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access


Winzip is only like $25.  I had the same issue, and decided that spending
the few bucks to get a registered copy of Winzip was a better 'deal' then
wasting time trying to code around the unregistered limitation.

Turns out there is a LOT more available in the registered version of Winzip
too.

Drew



From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Tue Apr 20 12:16:10 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 12:16:10 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access
Message-ID: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE51E@TAPPEEXCH01>

A little trickier, but if you want to embed zip functionality in your
program without requiring the user to purchase any additional software,
check this out:
http://www.vbaccelerator.com/home/VB/Code/Libraries/Compression/Zipping_File
s/article.asp

And regardless of what you choose to do, register WinZip ;-)


-----Original Message-----
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 11:36 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access

Winzip is only like $25.  I had the same issue, and decided that spending
the few bucks to get a registered copy of Winzip was a better 'deal' then
wasting time trying to code around the unregistered limitation.

Turns out there is a LOT more available in the registered version of Winzip
too.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 10:40 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access


To all,
 
Thanks for everybody's help on this I now know what the problem is.  We are
using an Evaluation copy of Winzip, if I set the focus of the Shell command
below to vbMaximizedFocus:
 
strCommand = "C:\Program Files\Winzip\Wzzip.exe " & wzFinal & " " &
strShiftData & " " & strDownTime & vbCrLf
            wzFiles = Shell(strCommand, vbMaximizedFocus)
 
A message appears in the window with press any key to continue, and if I
press any key it works perfect.  Is there anyway I can include the keypress
into the Shell Command.  If I can get this to work automatically then I
should be able to convince the powers that be to invest in the fully
registered version.  
 
Thanks again for everyone's help on this
 
Paul Hartland
Database Designer/Developer
Join the UK's number one for the internet 
www.freeserve.com/time
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Apr 20 12:21:00 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 12:21:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227AF1@main2.marlow.com>

Software licensins should be more like Winzip.  How useful is that tool?
And do they charge an arm and a leg for it? LOL.

Drew

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 12:10 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access


I second that!  I use WinZip every day.  I figured that as much as I use it,
the $20 something registration was dirt cheap.  You also get free upgrades
(for life, I think).

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 12:36 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access


Winzip is only like $25.  I had the same issue, and decided that spending
the few bucks to get a registered copy of Winzip was a better 'deal' then
wasting time trying to code around the unregistered limitation.

Turns out there is a LOT more available in the registered version of Winzip
too.

Drew

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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Tue Apr 20 12:23:46 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 13:23:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Report Page Header
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB80@nnse14.nns.com>

>>a group control source can consist of a field name, function,
string, etc.  Anything that will evaluate at runtime.<<


This was the part that I was not aware of...thanks.


Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Brett Barabash [mailto:BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 1:02 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: Report Page Header


Don't know if it's common practice, but I commonly use dummy headers in my
reports.  For example, I have a quote that consists of 6 different sections,
which can be selectively hidden by the user from a print dialog.  I name my
report sections with a string literal as the control source:

="Table of Contents"
="Pricing Plan"
="Terms of Payment"
...

Remember that a group control source can consist of a field name, function,
string, etc.  Anything that will evaluate at runtime.  My string literals
will never change throughout the course of printing the report, thus the
section only prints once.


-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 11:42 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: Report Page Header

Interesting...works like a charm, but this approach doesn't seem intuitive
to me.  Is this common practice?


Thanks,

Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 12:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Re: Report Page Header


Hi Mark

> Is there no way to test for detail records printed on a report page, and,
> then based on that, hide the page header?

This is not a page header but a group header.

Create a dummy group with your labels:
Set Field/Expression to  =True
Set Group Header to Yes.

In the report, adjust the group's layout properties:

Set Keep Together to False
Set Repeat Section to True

/gustav


> I realize I can add a group header, but can I do so without actually
sorting
> or grouping?  For this report I have the field headers in the page header.
> I want to be able to suppress that page header when there are no detail
> records to be printed for that page.  This is not the same as on no data.

> For instance, let's assume a full page of details contains 80 records.
The
> first page, because of the report header can only accommodate 60 records.
> The last page, because of the size of the report footer, can also
> accommodate 60 records.  If my report only contains 60 records, the report
> length will still be 2 pages but no details will be on the second page.
> Currently, because I am utilizing the page header to hold the field
headers,
> the page header will print on the second page.  In the above case, how do
I
> suppress the page header if no detail records are on the page?


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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 20 12:49:14 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 13:49:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <012201c426ea$db54b160$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <20040420174912.DNB1728.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

That's what I'd like to do -- and may do yet  by passing the firstdayofweek
value from the form to the query instead of the report. Truth is, I don't
know how -- I can't remember ever passing a value to a query before and a
parameter query is out.  

Susan H. 

Right.  Except when I need to sort or group on an unbound control.  That's
when I have to add it to the query and bind the control to that field in the
query.




From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 20 13:00:33 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 20:00:33 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040420121802.XUVJ1778.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <20040420121802.XUVJ1778.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <339943245.20040420200033@cactus.dk>

Hi Susan

I played a bit with this and it seems either not to work or using one
value only (= not registering a new weekday setting of the form).

Thus, I would either stick with the solution you have (feed the
weekday setting to the query) or go with the suggestion from Stuart
(which I didn't check out).

/gustav


> Gustav, I think I must be missing something in this discussion. I hate to
> bring us to this level, but how would I do that? I can not get the
> sorting/grouping dialog to accept an unbound control. I guess I'm being
> truly dull... 

> Originally, I used code to set the value, but I still couldn't group by the
> results. 

> Susan H. 

> Hi Susan

> It will not be calculated but unbound ... you set the value from code.

> /gustav



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 20 13:10:40 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 14:10:40 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040420174912.DNB1728.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <20040420181039.QNZ1728.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Let me rephrase that -- if I have to have a module, I don't think I really
care what gets passed where -- my hope was to eliminate the module and do
all the calculating in the query or the report and I thought I might be able
to bypass the module using the openargs argument. Replacing the module I
have for one that passes the value to a query really doesn't resolve the
issue I had. 

Susan H. 

That's what I'd like to do -- and may do yet  by passing the firstdayofweek
value from the form to the query instead of the report. Truth is, I don't
know how -- I can't remember ever passing a value to a query before and a
parameter query is out.  




From orthorabod at yahoo.com  Tue Apr 20 13:29:15 2004
From: orthorabod at yahoo.com (Dick Abo)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 11:29:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Accidentally Modified SYSTEM.MDA without Backup
Message-ID: <20040420182915.72088.qmail@web20724.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi All,
While examining a file (chapter 14) from the CD in the Access97 ADH, I opened the change password form and although I did not enter or change passwords, I am no longer able to use any of my Access 2K files. (The old and new Passwords were blank in the dialog box.)  I now get prompted with the Logon Dialog box that asks for the Administrator password, for every Access application that I attempt to use.

Short of re-installing the SYSTEM.MDW from the installation CD, is there another quick way to rectify this problem?  (I did not make a backup of the SYSTEM.MDW file but plan to do so from now on and my installation CD is currently unavailable.)  

I was previously not using the Security Workgroups feature of Access, but now it appears that I may have to?.

 Many thanks in advance.



		
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Apr 20 13:36:26 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 14:36:26 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access
In-Reply-To: <1861111.1082475577664.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPOEMPHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

I have a zip demo in my framework lecture series which uses a freeware zip
class.  These use two DLLs to handle the zip / unzip, two classes and two
modules for the zipping / unzipping.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 11:40 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access


To all,

Thanks for everybody?s help on this I now know what the problem is.  We are
using an Evaluation copy of Winzip, if I set the focus of the Shell command
below to vbMaximizedFocus:

strCommand = "C:\Program Files\Winzip\Wzzip.exe " & wzFinal & " " &
strShiftData & " " & strDownTime & vbCrLf
            wzFiles = Shell(strCommand, vbMaximizedFocus)

A message appears in the window with press any key to continue, and if I
press any key it works perfect.  Is there anyway I can include the keypress
into the Shell Command.  If I can get this to work automatically then I
should be able to convince the powers that be to invest in the fully
registered version.

Thanks again for everyone?s help on this

Paul Hartland
Database Designer/Developer
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 20 13:58:32 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 20:58:32 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040420181039.QNZ1728.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <20040420181039.QNZ1728.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <5043422468.20040420205832@cactus.dk>

Hi Susan

In the query you can pick the value from the form as an expression:

  Select
    ...,
    [Forms].[frmSomeForm].[txtTextbox] As FirstDayOfWeek
  From
    ...

Is is recommendable also to specify this as a parameter to avoid type
mismatch errors, indeed if the textbox is unbound:

  Parameters [Forms].[frmSomeForm].[txtTextbox] Byte;

I don't know what your module does, but basically the date of the
first day of the week of datDate can be found from this formula:

  DateWeekFirst =
    DateAdd("d", vbSunday - WeekDay(datDate, FirstDayOfWeek), datDate)

You would need to replace vbSunday with the actual value (1 for A97).
    
End Function

/gustav


> Let me rephrase that -- if I have to have a module, I don't think I really
> care what gets passed where -- my hope was to eliminate the module and do
> all the calculating in the query or the report and I thought I might be able
> to bypass the module using the openargs argument. Replacing the module I
> have for one that passes the value to a query really doesn't resolve the
> issue I had. 

> Susan H. 

> That's what I'd like to do -- and may do yet  by passing the firstdayofweek
> value from the form to the query instead of the report. Truth is, I don't
> know how -- I can't remember ever passing a value to a query before and a
> parameter query is out.  



From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 20 14:04:25 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 21:04:25 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Form Opening Time
In-Reply-To: <s084f8ab.054@cbc.ca>
References: <s084f8ab.054@cbc.ca>
Message-ID: <6243775065.20040420210425@cactus.dk>

Hi Bryan

Which version, please?

/gustav


> Can anyone explain, or give a possible idea why Turning Jet's SHOWPLAN
> on in the registry, will make a form open in 1/3 of the time it took
> prior to turning it on?

> It now takes about 7 seconds to open, but before it was 22-24 secords.

> Any ideas? I had turned on SHOWPLAN to try and see if any of the
> queries were causing the slowdown in opening.

> Thanks,

> Bryan Carbonnell
> bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca



From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca  Tue Apr 20 14:18:04 2004
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 15:18:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Form Opening Time
Message-ID: <s0853f41.089@cbc.ca>

Access 2000 on Win 2K SP4 with Jet 4, SP8

Bryan Carbonnell
bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca

>>> gustav at cactus.dk 20-Apr-04 3:04:25 PM >>>
Hi Bryan

Which version, please?

/gustav


> Can anyone explain, or give a possible idea why Turning Jet's
SHOWPLAN
> on in the registry, will make a form open in 1/3 of the time it took
> prior to turning it on?

> It now takes about 7 seconds to open, but before it was 22-24
secords.

> Any ideas? I had turned on SHOWPLAN to try and see if any of the
> queries were causing the slowdown in opening.

> Thanks,



From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca  Tue Apr 20 14:31:43 2004
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 15:31:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Form Opening Time
Message-ID: <s085426f.095@cbc.ca>

OOPS.

A2K SP3

Bryan

>>> Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca 20-Apr-04 3:18:04 PM >>>
Access 2000 on Win 2K SP4 with Jet 4, SP8

Bryan Carbonnell
bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca 

>>> gustav at cactus.dk 20-Apr-04 3:04:25 PM >>>
Hi Bryan

Which version, please?

/gustav


> Can anyone explain, or give a possible idea why Turning Jet's
SHOWPLAN
> on in the registry, will make a form open in 1/3 of the time it took
> prior to turning it on?

> It now takes about 7 seconds to open, but before it was 22-24
secords.

> Any ideas? I had turned on SHOWPLAN to try and see if any of the
> queries were causing the slowdown in opening.


From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 20 15:22:34 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 16:22:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <5043422468.20040420205832@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20040420202233.JTRR1705.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 2:59 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report

Hi Susan

In the query you can pick the value from the form as an expression:

  Select
    ...,
    [Forms].[frmSomeForm].[txtTextbox] As FirstDayOfWeek
  From
    ...

Is is recommendable also to specify this as a parameter to avoid type
mismatch errors, indeed if the textbox is unbound:

  Parameters [Forms].[frmSomeForm].[txtTextbox] Byte;

I don't know what your module does, but basically the date of the first day
of the week of datDate can be found from this formula:

  DateWeekFirst =
    DateAdd("d", vbSunday - WeekDay(datDate, FirstDayOfWeek), datDate)

You would need to replace vbSunday with the actual value (1 for A97).
    
End Function

/gustav


> Let me rephrase that -- if I have to have a module, I don't think I 
> really care what gets passed where -- my hope was to eliminate the 
> module and do all the calculating in the query or the report and I 
> thought I might be able to bypass the module using the openargs 
> argument. Replacing the module I have for one that passes the value to 
> a query really doesn't resolve the issue I had.

> Susan H. 

> That's what I'd like to do -- and may do yet  by passing the 
> firstdayofweek value from the form to the query instead of the report. 
> Truth is, I don't know how -- I can't remember ever passing a value to 
> a query before and a parameter query is out.

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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Tue Apr 20 15:23:11 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 16:23:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB86@nnse14.nns.com>

Group,

Is there a method to create a junction table from a non-normalized table?  I
inherited a table that I now need to normalize into two primary tables and a
joining junction table.  The primary tables were easy enough to create, but
how can I create the junction table?

I want to take a records such as:
Fld1	Fld2 	Fld3 	Fld4 	Fld5	<=Fields
Dat1	Fld2 		Fld4 	Fld5	<=Record
Dat2		Fld3	Fld4		<=Record

And turn it into:
Fld1	FldID	<=Fields
Dat1	Fld2	<=Record
Dat1	Fld4	<=Record
Dat1	Fld5	<=Record
Dat2	Fld3	<=Record
Dat2	Fld4	<=Record


Mark


From jmhla at earthlink.net  Tue Apr 20 15:25:09 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 13:25:09 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Is there a printed flag?
Message-ID: <003601c42715$97192320$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

Is there a some type of printed flag for a record to show it has been
printed or do I need roll my own code?

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

 



From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 20 15:41:56 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 16:41:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
References: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB86@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <003001c42717$ebdff2b0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...I know of no simple way to do this ...my approach has always been to add
an ANPK to the original table and then to use that as the control to
populate the derivative tables through a series of queries ...but the
circumstances change so much from mdb to mdb that I've never been able to
write code that ever worked for more than one situation.

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:23 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data


> Group,
>
> Is there a method to create a junction table from a non-normalized table?
I
> inherited a table that I now need to normalize into two primary tables and
a
> joining junction table.  The primary tables were easy enough to create,
but
> how can I create the junction table?
>
> I want to take a records such as:
> Fld1 Fld2 Fld3 Fld4 Fld5 <=Fields
> Dat1 Fld2 Fld4 Fld5 <=Record
> Dat2 Fld3 Fld4 <=Record
>
> And turn it into:
> Fld1 FldID <=Fields
> Dat1 Fld2 <=Record
> Dat1 Fld4 <=Record
> Dat1 Fld5 <=Record
> Dat2 Fld3 <=Record
> Dat2 Fld4 <=Record
>
>
> Mark
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 20 15:48:39 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 16:48:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <5043422468.20040420205832@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20040420204838.HADS1779.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

If the expression's in the query and you open the report without specifying
the value in the form, how would you prevent an error in the form? I suppose
I could just handle it and remind the user to open the form and choose the
first day of the week. 

Right now, I've set the report to default to a value and since the
expression's in the report, it works whether you start from the form or just
open the report. You can't specify the grouping value when you open the
report that way, but at least there's no error -- which is a nice
alternative especially if the first day of the week seldom changes. That way
the user's not forced to go through the form every time. 

I realize I sound really picky -- but these are the sort of nitpicky
problems I get from readers. These solutions have to be as universal as
possible or I get email. :) "It won't work if...." even when I've told them
clearly in the article that it won't work if... but somehow it's still the
article's shortcoming. It's always best if I can head them off. 

Which reminds me -- can someone explain the vbUseSystem constant? There's
almost nothing about it on msdn. It's a system default, but there's not much
about it. Well, the serious search-challenged was unable to find anything on
it besides a vague reference -- no real explanation of the consequences.

Susan H. 

Hi Susan

In the query you can pick the value from the form as an expression:

  Select
    ...,
    [Forms].[frmSomeForm].[txtTextbox] As FirstDayOfWeek
  From
    ...

Is is recommendable also to specify this as a parameter to avoid type
mismatch errors, indeed if the textbox is unbound:

  Parameters [Forms].[frmSomeForm].[txtTextbox] Byte;

I don't know what your module does, but basically the date of the first day
of the week of datDate can be found from this formula:

  DateWeekFirst =
    DateAdd("d", vbSunday - WeekDay(datDate, FirstDayOfWeek), datDate)

You would need to replace vbSunday with the actual value (1 for A97).
    
End Function

/gustav


> Let me rephrase that -- if I have to have a module, I don't think I 
> really care what gets passed where -- my hope was to eliminate the 
> module and do all the calculating in the query or the report and I 
> thought I might be able to bypass the module using the openargs 
> argument. Replacing the module I have for one that passes the value to 
> a query really doesn't resolve the issue I had.

> Susan H. 

> That's what I'd like to do -- and may do yet  by passing the 
> firstdayofweek value from the form to the query instead of the report. 
> Truth is, I don't know how -- I can't remember ever passing a value to 
> a query before and a parameter query is out.

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From pharryecoenen at btinternet.com  Tue Apr 20 15:32:04 2004
From: pharryecoenen at btinternet.com (Harry Coenen)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 21:32:04 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Displaying networked data?
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAL9Kwp6bii0K2NXFiQtqufcKAAAAQAAAA6SLNMKM75U2pIISaac/oCAEAAAAA@btinternet.com>

Hi All

I have a data set, representing policy targets, which is currently ordered
hierarchically, the core tblTargets relating each target to its
ParentTarget. In reality these targets are also related in other ways, e.g.:
- sequentially, some targets preceding others
- jointly, some targets should be evaluated in relation with others
elsewhere in the hierarchy
- externally, each target relating to one or more external targets
(compliance requirements set by a myriad of regulators)
- influentially, a target may or may not influence other targets
- normatively, delivery on each targets can be measured in one or more ways

Do you know of OCX controls capable of visually representing and navigating
such a network of targets.

Currently, I display the hierarchy (in a treeview) and list childtargets,
and other relation types in subforms on tabs of the target form. I have one
proto-solution, consisting of hierachies in different dimensions, to be
displayed bu one treeview selecting the dimensions and a second displaying
the associated hierarchy.

Regards

Harry



From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Tue Apr 20 16:08:28 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 17:08:28 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB87@nnse14.nns.com>

I did just that to create the primary tables.  But, since I've never had to
do this on such a grand scale, I need assistance in generating the junction
table.  Here is pseudo data for clarification.  I've placed dashes to
maintain alignment.

ID--CODE--SA--SAR--SRD
1---EA1---SA--SAR--SRD
2---EEY1--SA
3---EEY2--SA--SAR--SRD

...from the data above, I need:
PK--CODE--TYPE
1---EA1---SA
2---EA1---SAR
3---EA1---SRD
4---EEY1--SA
5---EEY2--SA
6---EEY2--SAR
7---EEY2--SRD

Any suggestions?

Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:42 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data


...I know of no simple way to do this ...my approach has always been to add
an ANPK to the original table and then to use that as the control to
populate the derivative tables through a series of queries ...but the
circumstances change so much from mdb to mdb that I've never been able to
write code that ever worked for more than one situation.

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:23 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data


> Group,
>
> Is there a method to create a junction table from a non-normalized table?
I
> inherited a table that I now need to normalize into two primary tables and
a
> joining junction table.  The primary tables were easy enough to create,
but
> how can I create the junction table?
>
> I want to take a records such as:
> Fld1 Fld2 Fld3 Fld4 Fld5 <=Fields
> Dat1 Fld2 Fld4 Fld5 <=Record
> Dat2 Fld3 Fld4 <=Record
>
> And turn it into:
> Fld1 FldID <=Fields
> Dat1 Fld2 <=Record
> Dat1 Fld4 <=Record
> Dat1 Fld5 <=Record
> Dat2 Fld3 <=Record
> Dat2 Fld4 <=Record
>
>
> Mark
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From pharryecoenen at btinternet.com  Tue Apr 20 15:48:45 2004
From: pharryecoenen at btinternet.com (Harry Coenen)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 21:48:45 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Framework discussion - continuation? YES PLEASE!!!
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAL9Kwp6bii0K2NXFiQtqufcKAAAAQAAAAMs+ca2n+REKAzHqbosXdpwEAAAAA@btinternet.com>

John (and all)

A few suggestions:
Additional service classes:
- error logging/tracing to table or file, I can post a messy attempt to
achieve this with a class which pushes and pops all trace calls to a stack
and writes this to a table/file when an error occurs (together with some
other relevant data)
- behaviours of combinations of controls, e.g.
-- eample of class implementation of combination of treeview/listview with
splicer for explorer like navigation
(I can create the behaviour, but I cannot implement it in a class yet)
-- class implementation of combinations of controls, e.g.
combo/labels/button, see below for further info

My half cent:

Triggered by a recent discussion about lookup-tables, hard-coded lookup
lists, tag, etc.
Recently I had to redevelop a performance monitoring system for a public
sector body. At the start they did not know what they wanted, and at the end
they still didn't. So requirements analysis was a bit difficult to say the
least. Just everything inside and outside the scope of the project related
to just about everything else.
Usually I would have send them home to do their homework first, but since
the project had some very interesting elements I decided to give it a go.

Permananetly changing requirements make you necessarily creative in avoiding
hardcoding. 

What did I do to resolve issues
1.
All lookup fields were filled from lookup tables with the following
structure
LookupFieldID (an autonumber)
LookupFieldShortDescription (for the display on forms and reports)
LookupFieldLongDescription (mainly for value dependent tooltips)
LookupFieldIsActive (boolean set True when field should be displayed in
lookups)
LookupFieldSortOrder (a customisable sort order of the lookups)
LookupFieldMemo  (my documentation + recording of audit trail)
LookupFieldMaxLengthInCharacters (of short description)
LookupFieldMaxLengthInTwips (calculated based on the standard font and size,
and used to determine columnwidth in reports)
LookupFieldParent 
LookupFieldActiveDateFrom
LookupFieldActiveDateTo
and a few others..

Filling combos with source:
SELECT LookupFieldID, LookupFieldShortDescription 
FROM tlkLookupField
WHERE LookupFieldIsActive = True
ORDER BY LookupFieldSortOrder;
linking on 2 columns, making the witdh of the first as small as possible, in
effect only displaying the second

2.
The lookup table is linked to the table (just in case the user wants to view
the description of the meaningless code in a certain column of a record) and
a combobox on the form.
Given the number of lookups only few were actually linked in the
relationships table

3.
On the form I had to display the ShortName and the Tooltip
I achieved this by relating an (additional) label displaying the ShortName
and a commandbutton with the value dependant tooltip, the latter transparent
and overlayed on the former, to the combobox
this gave a combination of 4 controls
cbxLookupfield (the Lookupcombobox dropping down the short description, but
actually entering the ID)
lbxLookupfield (the normal label related to the combo)
lkxLookupField (with the Shortname)
cmxLookupField (with the tooltip from the LongDescription)
So the user still had the look and feel of working with meaningfull
descriptions.

4.
The main user/administrator could add (but not delete) records to Lookup
tables and change the descriptions, IsActive and SortOrder.  All changes
were logged and datestamped to the LookupMemo, thus preserving an audit
trail.
This was all managed from one form with a combobox selecting the different
lookuptables. The table feeding this combobox had again exactly the same
structure as above and could be edited in the same form.


Advantages
- Language independent (by design), both in terms of the internal
organisational language and changing terminology as well as internationally
(just add LookupFieldLanguage and you can start filling the table with
descriptions)
- Perfect Audit trail
- Smart looking forms with additional behaviours easily added (derived from
tlkLookupField) to the combo-combination
- Smart looking report snapshots (dynamically formatted using data from the
above). I only needed a few, thanks to some COOL code for dynamically
positioning controls at runtime from Shamil Salakhetdinov and Stephen
Lebans' code for calculating the width of a data element.
- Highly standardised naming conventions allowed most of the coding to be
reduced to a few loops.

Disadvantages:
-some overhead in a few events
--Form_Current event had to refresh all tooltips and lookups
--After changing the combobox selection I had to refresh the tips and lookup
for that combo
Luckily most of this could be achieved by looping through the controls, the
"x" in the third position of the names above (3) allowed for this.

Next steps?
- Researching the possibility of further streamlining the lookup tables
towards a full fledged data dictionary, e.g. by pulling them into a few
master tables.
- Creating a class for the above combo/label/button behaviour (as soon as I
understand what John, Shamil and a few others are actually doing).



Harry



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Apr 20 16:34:12 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 14:34:12 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Is there a printed flag?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8631272F@infoserver01.infostat.local>

It's strictly roll your own.  Records don't get printed, reports get
printed.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhla at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 12:25 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Is there a printed flag?


Is there a some type of printed flag for a record to show it has been
printed or do I need roll my own code?

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

 

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From pharryecoenen at btinternet.com  Tue Apr 20 16:16:42 2004
From: pharryecoenen at btinternet.com (Harry Coenen)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 22:16:42 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040420204838.HADS1779.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAL9Kwp6bii0K2NXFiQtqufcKAAAAQAAAAl4yAzK7E5EaMl3ADy6kdowEAAAAA@btinternet.com>

Hi Susan

VbUseSystem
My object browser shows:
Const vbUseSystem = 0
    Member of VBA.VbFirstWeekOfYear
Use the day of the week specified in your system settings for the first day
of the week.

Const vbUseSystemDayOfWeek = 0
    Member of VBA.VbDayOfWeek
Use NLS API setting

the descriptions are from the helpfile address:
VbLR6.chm::/html/vamscDateConstants.htm
titled: Date Constants
(XP version)

I suppose in both cases the value will be derived from the systems settings
in the machines registry


Report Error
I usually hide all reports and run them from forms, especially because the
subsets of data the user wants depend on selections made in the forms. Then
I pass the selections to the report and trap the errors. e.g. no data.


Picky?
Users don't read manuals, only their lawyers will do so when you really make
a mess.
So guiding users through the appropriate process with menus, tooltips,
messages, etc. isn't picky, just good service.


Regards

Harry


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>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
>Susan Harkins
>Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 9:49 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
>
>
>If the expression's in the query and you open the report 
>without specifying
>the value in the form, how would you prevent an error in the 
>form? I suppose
>I could just handle it and remind the user to open the form 
>and choose the
>first day of the week. 
>
>Right now, I've set the report to default to a value and since the
>expression's in the report, it works whether you start from 
>the form or just
>open the report. You can't specify the grouping value when you open the
>report that way, but at least there's no error -- which is a nice
>alternative especially if the first day of the week seldom 
>changes. That way
>the user's not forced to go through the form every time. 
>
>I realize I sound really picky -- but these are the sort of nitpicky
>problems I get from readers. These solutions have to be as universal as
>possible or I get email. :) "It won't work if...." even when 
>I've told them
>clearly in the article that it won't work if... but somehow 
>it's still the
>article's shortcoming. It's always best if I can head them off. 
>
>Which reminds me -- can someone explain the vbUseSystem 
>constant? There's
>almost nothing about it on msdn. It's a system default, but 
>there's not much
>about it. Well, the serious search-challenged was unable to 
>find anything on
>it besides a vague reference -- no real explanation of the 
>consequences.
>
>Susan H. 
>
>Hi Susan
>
>In the query you can pick the value from the form as an expression:
>
>  Select
>    ...,
>    [Forms].[frmSomeForm].[txtTextbox] As FirstDayOfWeek
>  From
>    ...
>
>Is is recommendable also to specify this as a parameter to avoid type
>mismatch errors, indeed if the textbox is unbound:
>
>  Parameters [Forms].[frmSomeForm].[txtTextbox] Byte;
>
>I don't know what your module does, but basically the date of 
>the first day
>of the week of datDate can be found from this formula:
>
>  DateWeekFirst =
>    DateAdd("d", vbSunday - WeekDay(datDate, FirstDayOfWeek), datDate)
>
>You would need to replace vbSunday with the actual value (1 for A97).
>    
>End Function
>
>/gustav
>
>
>> Let me rephrase that -- if I have to have a module, I don't think I 
>> really care what gets passed where -- my hope was to eliminate the 
>> module and do all the calculating in the query or the report and I 
>> thought I might be able to bypass the module using the openargs 
>> argument. Replacing the module I have for one that passes 
>the value to 
>> a query really doesn't resolve the issue I had.
>
>> Susan H. 
>
>> That's what I'd like to do -- and may do yet  by passing the 
>> firstdayofweek value from the form to the query instead of 
>the report. 
>> Truth is, I don't know how -- I can't remember ever passing 
>a value to 
>> a query before and a parameter query is out.
>
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 20 16:48:45 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 17:48:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAL9Kwp6bii0K2NXFiQtqufcKAAAAQAAAAl4yAzK7E5EaMl3ADy6kdowEAAAAA@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <20040420214843.NWZL1832.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Use NLS API setting

I suppose in both cases the value will be derived from the systems settings
in the machines registry

=============I wanted more infomration on NLS API -- but didn't turn up
anything. 

Susan H. 



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 20 16:54:26 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 17:54:26 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAL9Kwp6bii0K2NXFiQtqufcKAAAAQAAAAl4yAzK7E5EaMl3ADy6kdowEAAAAA@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <20040420215425.NZPD1832.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Report Error
I usually hide all reports and run them from forms, especially because the
subsets of data the user wants depend on selections made in the forms. Then
I pass the selections to the report and trap the errors. e.g. no data.

==========I was thinking that I might be able to trap the error and in the
errorhandler, set the default value. 

Picky?
Users don't read manuals, only their lawyers will do so when you really make
a mess.
So guiding users through the appropriate process with menus, tooltips,
messages, etc. isn't picky, just good service.

==========Thanks for understanding. Most of the mail I get is really nice.
They just want to know more, so they can take the technique a little
further. But, in my own self-serving way, I'd rather ward off as many of the
"you're an idiot" emails as possible. I don't get very many, which I don't
really think is a reflection of my intelligence, but rather the manners of
most of the readers. ;) 

Susan H. 



From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 20 17:03:11 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 18:03:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
References: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB87@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <001c01c42723$45a311f0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...you've lost me Mark ...I thought you were trying to join data from two
tables ...your latest post looks as if you're trying to pivot the data
instead ...can you clarify it a bit?

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 5:08 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data


> I did just that to create the primary tables.  But, since I've never had
to
> do this on such a grand scale, I need assistance in generating the
junction
> table.  Here is pseudo data for clarification.  I've placed dashes to
> maintain alignment.
>
> ID--CODE--SA--SAR--SRD
> 1---EA1---SA--SAR--SRD
> 2---EEY1--SA
> 3---EEY2--SA--SAR--SRD
>
> ...from the data above, I need:
> PK--CODE--TYPE
> 1---EA1---SA
> 2---EA1---SAR
> 3---EA1---SRD
> 4---EEY1--SA
> 5---EEY2--SA
> 6---EEY2--SAR
> 7---EEY2--SRD
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:42 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
>
>
> ...I know of no simple way to do this ...my approach has always been to
add
> an ANPK to the original table and then to use that as the control to
> populate the derivative tables through a series of queries ...but the
> circumstances change so much from mdb to mdb that I've never been able to
> write code that ever worked for more than one situation.
>
> William Hindman
> "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
> a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
> To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:23 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
>
>
> > Group,
> >
> > Is there a method to create a junction table from a non-normalized
table?
> I
> > inherited a table that I now need to normalize into two primary tables
and
> a
> > joining junction table.  The primary tables were easy enough to create,
> but
> > how can I create the junction table?
> >
> > I want to take a records such as:
> > Fld1 Fld2 Fld3 Fld4 Fld5 <=Fields
> > Dat1 Fld2 Fld4 Fld5 <=Record
> > Dat2 Fld3 Fld4 <=Record
> >
> > And turn it into:
> > Fld1 FldID <=Fields
> > Dat1 Fld2 <=Record
> > Dat1 Fld4 <=Record
> > Dat1 Fld5 <=Record
> > Dat2 Fld3 <=Record
> > Dat2 Fld4 <=Record
> >
> >
> > Mark
> > -- 
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>
>
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Tue Apr 20 17:45:05 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 18:45:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB88@nnse14.nns.com>

Sure...the data started out as an Excel flat file (no normalization).  They
then put it into an Access Db (same format).  I now have the task of
cleaning it up.  The data consists of checklist items, and the checklists to
which they pertain.

In my example, (ID--CODE--SA--SAR--SRD) "code" refers to the checklist item
description, and the last 3 fields are examples of checklist types (which
should have their own table).  I have already created the normalized tables
tblChecklistItems and tblChecklistTypes.  What I need assistance with, is
how to create the junction table of this many to many relationship.  Since
this is the first time I've had to normalize an existing database, a little
"hand-holding" would be appreciated;)



Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 6:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data


...you've lost me Mark ...I thought you were trying to join data from two
tables ...your latest post looks as if you're trying to pivot the data
instead ...can you clarify it a bit?

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 5:08 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data


> I did just that to create the primary tables.  But, since I've never had
to
> do this on such a grand scale, I need assistance in generating the
junction
> table.  Here is pseudo data for clarification.  I've placed dashes to
> maintain alignment.
>
> ID--CODE--SA--SAR--SRD
> 1---EA1---SA--SAR--SRD
> 2---EEY1--SA
> 3---EEY2--SA--SAR--SRD
>
> ...from the data above, I need:
> PK--CODE--TYPE
> 1---EA1---SA
> 2---EA1---SAR
> 3---EA1---SRD
> 4---EEY1--SA
> 5---EEY2--SA
> 6---EEY2--SAR
> 7---EEY2--SRD
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:42 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
>
>
> ...I know of no simple way to do this ...my approach has always been to
add
> an ANPK to the original table and then to use that as the control to
> populate the derivative tables through a series of queries ...but the
> circumstances change so much from mdb to mdb that I've never been able to
> write code that ever worked for more than one situation.
>
> William Hindman
> "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
> a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
> To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:23 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
>
>
> > Group,
> >
> > Is there a method to create a junction table from a non-normalized
table?
> I
> > inherited a table that I now need to normalize into two primary tables
and
> a
> > joining junction table.  The primary tables were easy enough to create,
> but
> > how can I create the junction table?
> >
> > I want to take a records such as:
> > Fld1 Fld2 Fld3 Fld4 Fld5 <=Fields
> > Dat1 Fld2 Fld4 Fld5 <=Record
> > Dat2 Fld3 Fld4 <=Record
> >
> > And turn it into:
> > Fld1 FldID <=Fields
> > Dat1 Fld2 <=Record
> > Dat1 Fld4 <=Record
> > Dat1 Fld5 <=Record
> > Dat2 Fld3 <=Record
> > Dat2 Fld4 <=Record
> >
> >
> > Mark
> > -- 
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> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
>
>
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From jwelz at hotmail.com  Tue Apr 20 18:03:38 2004
From: jwelz at hotmail.com (Jürgen Welz)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 17:03:38 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Displaying networked data?
Message-ID: <BAY2-F156NHduGVfAQe0006bfcd@hotmail.com>

Does the client have MS Project?  It sounds like automation code driving 
Project could give you a Gantt chart view that may prove viable.  It could 
also generate Critical Path views of the data which may be of use as well.


Ciao
J?rgen Welz
Edmonton, Alberta
jwelz at hotmail.com





>From: "Harry Coenen" <pharryecoenen at btinternet.com>
>
>Hi All
>
>I have a data set, representing policy targets, which is currently ordered
>hierarchically, the core tblTargets relating each target to its
>ParentTarget. In reality these targets are also related in other ways, 
>e.g.:
>- sequentially, some targets preceding others
>- jointly, some targets should be evaluated in relation with others
>elsewhere in the hierarchy
>- externally, each target relating to one or more external targets
>(compliance requirements set by a myriad of regulators)
>- influentially, a target may or may not influence other targets
>- normatively, delivery on each targets can be measured in one or more ways
>
>Do you know of OCX controls capable of visually representing and navigating
>such a network of targets.
>
>Currently, I display the hierarchy (in a treeview) and list childtargets,
>and other relation types in subforms on tabs of the target form. I have one
>proto-solution, consisting of hierachies in different dimensions, to be
>displayed bu one treeview selecting the dimensions and a second displaying
>the associated hierarchy.
>
>Regards
>
>Harry

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 20 18:08:04 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 09:08:04 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040420204838.HADS1779.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <5043422468.20040420205832@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <408639F4.13148.52594A8@localhost>

On 20 Apr 2004 at 16:48, Susan Harkins wrote:

> If the expression's in the query and you open the report without specifying
> the value in the form, how would you prevent an error in the form? I suppose
> I could just handle it and remind the user to open the form and choose the
> first day of the week. 

Use the Static function I posted earlier. It will initially return a 
value of 0 (vbUseSystem)
......

> 
> Which reminds me -- can someone explain the vbUseSystem constant? There's
> almost nothing about it on msdn. It's a system default, but there's not much
> about it. Well, the serious search-challenged was unable to find anything on
> it besides a vague reference -- no real explanation of the consequences.
> 

It tells Access to use the NLS API setting.  (National Language 
Supprt)

i.e.  Use the FDOW returned by the GetLocaleInfoA() API call for a 
parameter of "LOCALE_IFIRSTDAYOFWEEK"

 
-- 
Lexacorp Ltd
http://www.lexacorp.com.pg
Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System 
Support.





From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 20 18:22:50 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 09:22:50 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
In-Reply-To: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB87@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <40863D6A.3847.53317A4@localhost>

On 20 Apr 2004 at 17:08, Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport Ne wrote:

> I did just that to create the primary tables.  But, since I've never had to
> do this on such a grand scale, I need assistance in generating the junction
> table.  Here is pseudo data for clarification.  I've placed dashes to
> maintain alignment.
> 
> ID--CODE--SA--SAR--SRD
> 1---EA1---SA--SAR--SRD
> 2---EEY1--SA
> 3---EEY2--SA--SAR--SRD
> 
> ...from the data above, I need:
> PK--CODE--TYPE
> 1---EA1---SA
> 2---EA1---SAR
> 3---EA1---SRD
> 4---EEY1--SA
> 5---EEY2--SA
> 6---EEY2--SAR
> 7---EEY2--SRD
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 

I'd do it in code.
Open the old data set and step through it.
For each record, step through the fields and create a new record in 
the new table where required.

 
-- 
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http://www.lexacorp.com.pg
Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System 
Support.





From DaveSharpe2 at cox.net  Tue Apr 20 18:28:27 2004
From: DaveSharpe2 at cox.net (Dave Sharpe)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 19:28:27 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
References: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB88@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <003001c4272f$2f231130$dd2f0a44@bcsrkeext6137>

Mark

I've sent You an MDB that I hope helps ( I could do what
I thought much easier that I could verbalize My thoughts ).

Dave

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 6:45 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data


Sure...the data started out as an Excel flat file (no normalization).  They
then put it into an Access Db (same format).  I now have the task of
cleaning it up.  The data consists of checklist items, and the checklists to
which they pertain.

In my example, (ID--CODE--SA--SAR--SRD) "code" refers to the checklist item
description, and the last 3 fields are examples of checklist types (which
should have their own table).  I have already created the normalized tables
tblChecklistItems and tblChecklistTypes.  What I need assistance with, is
how to create the junction table of this many to many relationship.  Since
this is the first time I've had to normalize an existing database, a little
"hand-holding" would be appreciated;)



Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 6:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data


...you've lost me Mark ...I thought you were trying to join data from two
tables ...your latest post looks as if you're trying to pivot the data
instead ...can you clarify it a bit?

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 5:08 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data


> I did just that to create the primary tables.  But, since I've never had
to
> do this on such a grand scale, I need assistance in generating the
junction
> table.  Here is pseudo data for clarification.  I've placed dashes to
> maintain alignment.
>
> ID--CODE--SA--SAR--SRD
> 1---EA1---SA--SAR--SRD
> 2---EEY1--SA
> 3---EEY2--SA--SAR--SRD
>
> ...from the data above, I need:
> PK--CODE--TYPE
> 1---EA1---SA
> 2---EA1---SAR
> 3---EA1---SRD
> 4---EEY1--SA
> 5---EEY2--SA
> 6---EEY2--SAR
> 7---EEY2--SRD
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:42 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
>
>
> ...I know of no simple way to do this ...my approach has always been to
add
> an ANPK to the original table and then to use that as the control to
> populate the derivative tables through a series of queries ...but the
> circumstances change so much from mdb to mdb that I've never been able to
> write code that ever worked for more than one situation.
>
> William Hindman
> "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
> a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
> To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:23 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
>
>
> > Group,
> >
> > Is there a method to create a junction table from a non-normalized
table?
> I
> > inherited a table that I now need to normalize into two primary tables
and
> a
> > joining junction table.  The primary tables were easy enough to create,
> but
> > how can I create the junction table?
> >
> > I want to take a records such as:
> > Fld1 Fld2 Fld3 Fld4 Fld5 <=Fields
> > Dat1 Fld2 Fld4 Fld5 <=Record
> > Dat2 Fld3 Fld4 <=Record
> >
> > And turn it into:
> > Fld1 FldID <=Fields
> > Dat1 Fld2 <=Record
> > Dat1 Fld4 <=Record
> > Dat1 Fld5 <=Record
> > Dat2 Fld3 <=Record
> > Dat2 Fld4 <=Record
> >
> >
> > Mark
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From pharryecoenen at btinternet.com  Tue Apr 20 15:34:10 2004
From: pharryecoenen at btinternet.com (Harry Coenen)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 21:34:10 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Access utils and add-ins
In-Reply-To: <12126461489.20040420161551@cactus.dk>
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Hi gustav (and all)


You can add :
Carlos J. Quintero's MZTools
http://www.mztools.com/
Bryan Carbonnell's ListAllVBAVariables
http://www3.sympatico.ca/carbonnb/bryan/index.html

and (slightly more commercial, but please note that I have no personal
commericial interest in any of these)
for $15, CodeCrafter
http://www.codecrafter.com/
delivering about the same functionality as the free MZTools

Rick Fisher's Find and Replace
http://www.rickworld.com/
in combination with
Helen Feddema's LNC Rename add-in
http://www.helenfeddema.com/


And for the ones who want to climb Wittgenstein's ladder:
Shamil Salakhetdinov's topics and DEEP concept
http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/
(some topics are also avialble thourgh http://www.4tops.com/)
or John W. Colby's musings on developing Frameworks
http://www.colbyconsulting.com/


Harry

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>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 3:16 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access utils and add-ins (was: Handling 
>strings in VBASQL scripts?)
>
>
>Hi Harry
>
>Nice collection of utils, add-ins, and code at those links!
>
>/gustav
>
>> Thanks to Skrol29
>> (http://www.skrol29.com/)
>> and Juan M. Af?n deRibera
>> (http://www.mvp-access.com/juanmafan/) ..
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 20 19:08:12 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 20:08:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <408639F4.13148.52594A8@localhost>
Message-ID: <20040421000810.JDLF1728.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

 
It tells Access to use the NLS API setting.  (National Language
Supprt)

i.e.  Use the FDOW returned by the GetLocaleInfoA() API call for a parameter
of "LOCALE_IFIRSTDAYOFWEEK"

=====OK, that last bit helps. Thanks!

Susan H. 



From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Apr 20 19:30:07 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 17:30:07 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access
In-Reply-To: <1861111.1082475577664.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIAENHCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Paul:

There is a way but it has been a long while since I have used it.

1. Create a file, say named return.txt and in notepad place one value, say
'1'.
2. Save file in an appropriate location, (and this is where it might become
complicated), run a program like, old DOS's debug, or a sector or hex editor
against the newly created file. In the editing mode change the value '1' or
now displayed as hex 31 to hex 13 (carriage return).
3. Save the file again and exit the hex editor.

Now you can use the following line of text when shelling to the command
prompt:

strCommand = "C:\Program Files\Winzip\Wzzip.exe " & wzFinal & " " &
strShiftData & " " & strDownTime & " < return.txt" & vbCrLf

wzFiles = Shell(strCommand, vbMaximizedFocus)

At the command prompt, the line should look something like:

C:\Program Files\Winzip\Wzzip.exe xxxx xxxx xxxx < return.txt

HTH
Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 8:40 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access


To all,

Thanks for everybody?s help on this I now know what the problem is.  We are
using an Evaluation copy of Winzip, if I set the focus of the Shell command
below to vbMaximizedFocus:

strCommand = "C:\Program Files\Winzip\Wzzip.exe " & wzFinal & " " &
strShiftData & " " & strDownTime & vbCrLf
            wzFiles = Shell(strCommand, vbMaximizedFocus)

A message appears in the window with press any key to continue, and if I
press any key it works perfect.  Is there anyway I can include the keypress
into the Shell Command.  If I can get this to work automatically then I
should be able to convince the powers that be to invest in the fully
registered version.

Thanks again for everyone?s help on this

Paul Hartland
Database Designer/Developer
Join the UK's number one for the internet
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Apr 20 19:38:23 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 20:38:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
In-Reply-To: <003001c42717$ebdff2b0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPKENFHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

ditto.  add the pk to the original.  then in the new tables add the pk of
the original table as a fk in the new table.  this "points back" to what
record it came from.

POC

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of William
Hindman
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:42 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data


...I know of no simple way to do this ...my approach has always been to add
an ANPK to the original table and then to use that as the control to
populate the derivative tables through a series of queries ...but the
circumstances change so much from mdb to mdb that I've never been able to
write code that ever worked for more than one situation.

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:23 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data


> Group,
>
> Is there a method to create a junction table from a non-normalized table?
I
> inherited a table that I now need to normalize into two primary tables and
a
> joining junction table.  The primary tables were easy enough to create,
but
> how can I create the junction table?
>
> I want to take a records such as:
> Fld1 Fld2 Fld3 Fld4 Fld5 <=Fields
> Dat1 Fld2 Fld4 Fld5 <=Record
> Dat2 Fld3 Fld4 <=Record
>
> And turn it into:
> Fld1 FldID <=Fields
> Dat1 Fld2 <=Record
> Dat1 Fld4 <=Record
> Dat1 Fld5 <=Record
> Dat2 Fld3 <=Record
> Dat2 Fld4 <=Record
>
>
> Mark
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From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Tue Apr 20 19:43:05 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 20:43:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access utils and add-ins
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References: <12126461489.20040420161551@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <40858B59.21981.E312BC@localhost>

On 20 Apr 2004 at 21:34, Harry Coenen wrote:

> You can add :
> Carlos J. Quintero's MZTools
> http://www.mztools.com/
> Bryan Carbonnell's ListAllVBAVariables
> http://www3.sympatico.ca/carbonnb/bryan/index.html

> Rick Fisher's Find and Replace
> http://www.rickworld.com/

> And for the ones who want to climb Wittgenstein's ladder:
> Shamil Salakhetdinov's topics and DEEP concept
> http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/
> (some topics are also avialble thourgh http://www.4tops.com/)
> or John W. Colby's musings on developing Frameworks
> http://www.colbyconsulting.com/

You put *ME* in the same league as MZTools, Rick Fisher's F&R, Shamil 
and JC???

You've got to be kidding!!

<blush>

-- 
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We've all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million 
typewriters will eventually reproduce the entire works of 
Shakespeare.
Now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true.^ [Robert 
Wilensky (1997)]




From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Tue Apr 20 20:00:09 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 19:00:09 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
Message-ID: <255310-22004432110959@christopherhawkins.com>

All,

This is weird.  I have a query that is supposed to return all records
from a Time Entry table where the Entry ID is not in the Line Item
table.

So basically, it's "SELECT [field list here] FROM TimeEntry WHERE
EntryID NOT IN (SELECT EntryID FROM LineItem)".

Pretty simple, right?  I can verify that there are a ton of records
in TimeEntry that have no corresponding record in LineItem.  But when
I run the query above, it returns no records.

Any idea?

-C-




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 20 20:19:14 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:19:14 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
In-Reply-To: <255310-22004432110959@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <408658B2.6832.59DA9FE@localhost>

On 20 Apr 2004 at 19:00, Christopher Hawkins wrote:

> All,
> 
> This is weird.  I have a query that is supposed to return all records
> from a Time Entry table where the Entry ID is not in the Line Item
> table.
> 
> So basically, it's "SELECT [field list here] FROM TimeEntry WHERE
> EntryID NOT IN (SELECT EntryID FROM LineItem)".
> 
> Pretty simple, right?  I can verify that there are a ton of records
> in TimeEntry that have no corresponding record in LineItem.  But when
> I run the query above, it returns no records.
> 

Is EntryID the same datatype in both tables? 

As another thought, make sure that you haven't "quoted" the subquery 
in your actual code..

Maybe pasting the actual code would help.






 
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Support.





From pharryecoenen at btinternet.com  Tue Apr 20 16:35:59 2004
From: pharryecoenen at btinternet.com (Harry Coenen)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 22:35:59 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
In-Reply-To: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB87@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAL9Kwp6bii0K2NXFiQtqufcKAAAAQAAAACQOjiDv3E0qfal8Kt+h32gEAAAAA@btinternet.com>

Hi Mark

How about something like:

SELECT CODE, SA
FROM T1
WHERE SA NOT IS NULL
UNION
SELECT CODE, SAR
FROM T1
WHERE SAR NOT IS NULL
UNION
SELECT CODE, SRD
FROM T1
WHERE SRD NOT IS NULL;

Then you only need to get your PK right
If you really wnat the numbering as indicated you could pass the above query
to a table with a PK as autonumber

There must be a way to do this in the query, I have seen it somewhere, but
where?

Regards

Harry

>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
>Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)
>Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 10:08 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
>
>
>I did just that to create the primary tables.  But, since I've 
>never had to
>do this on such a grand scale, I need assistance in generating 
>the junction
>table.  Here is pseudo data for clarification.  I've placed dashes to
>maintain alignment.
>
>ID--CODE--SA--SAR--SRD
>1---EA1---SA--SAR--SRD
>2---EEY1--SA
>3---EEY2--SA--SAR--SRD
>
>...from the data above, I need:
>PK--CODE--TYPE
>1---EA1---SA
>2---EA1---SAR
>3---EA1---SRD
>4---EEY1--SA
>5---EEY2--SA
>6---EEY2--SAR
>7---EEY2--SRD
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>Mark
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] 
>Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:42 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
>
>
>...I know of no simple way to do this ...my approach has 
>always been to add
>an ANPK to the original table and then to use that as the control to
>populate the derivative tables through a series of queries ...but the
>circumstances change so much from mdb to mdb that I've never 
>been able to
>write code that ever worked for more than one situation.
>
>William Hindman
>"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing 
>your code is
>a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
>To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:23 PM
>Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
>
>
>> Group,
>>
>> Is there a method to create a junction table from a 
>non-normalized table?
>I
>> inherited a table that I now need to normalize into two 
>primary tables and
>a
>> joining junction table.  The primary tables were easy enough 
>to create,
>but
>> how can I create the junction table?
>>
>> I want to take a records such as:
>> Fld1 Fld2 Fld3 Fld4 Fld5 <=Fields
>> Dat1 Fld2 Fld4 Fld5 <=Record
>> Dat2 Fld3 Fld4 <=Record
>>
>> And turn it into:
>> Fld1 FldID <=Fields
>> Dat1 Fld2 <=Record
>> Dat1 Fld4 <=Record
>> Dat1 Fld5 <=Record
>> Dat2 Fld3 <=Record
>> Dat2 Fld4 <=Record
>>
>>
>> Mark
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From andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au  Tue Apr 20 20:27:12 2004
From: andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au (Haslett, Andrew)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 10:57:12 +0930
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
Message-ID: <EAAA1F7DC874D511BA070008C70D61BBE3AABB@adl01s051.ilcorp.gov.au>

I was about to say that the AccessSQL dialect may not be able to handle
derived tables, but I tested it and it worked fine for me.

Are they EntryID fields in both tables different data types perhaps?

A workaround would be to use a Left join and filter where the EntryID is
Null:

Select 
    [field list]
>From 
    TimeEntry
Left Join
    EntryID
ON 
    TimeEntry.EntryID = LineItem.EntryID
WHERE
    LineItem.EntryID IS Null

Cheers,
Andrew

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, 21 April 2004 10:30 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???

All,

This is weird.  I have a query that is supposed to return all records
from a Time Entry table where the Entry ID is not in the Line Item
table.

So basically, it's "SELECT [field list here] FROM TimeEntry WHERE
EntryID NOT IN (SELECT EntryID FROM LineItem)".

Pretty simple, right?  I can verify that there are a ton of records
in TimeEntry that have no corresponding record in LineItem.  But when
I run the query above, it returns no records.

Any idea?

-C-


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From DaveSharpe2 at cox.net  Tue Apr 20 20:26:15 2004
From: DaveSharpe2 at cox.net (Dave Sharpe)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 21:26:15 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
References: <255310-22004432110959@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <003101c4273f$a38dab10$dd2f0a44@bcsrkeext6137>

Christopher

I build graphically ( and this worked ), viewing the code Access
put in some "(" and ")" that might be required.

SELECT output.code
FROM [output]
WHERE (((output.code) Not In (SELECT output_2.code FROM output_2 )));


Dave

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From: "Christopher Hawkins" <clh at christopherhawkins.com>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 9:00 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???


All,

This is weird.  I have a query that is supposed to return all records
from a Time Entry table where the Entry ID is not in the Line Item
table.

So basically, it's "SELECT [field list here] FROM TimeEntry WHERE
EntryID NOT IN (SELECT EntryID FROM LineItem)".

Pretty simple, right?  I can verify that there are a ton of records
in TimeEntry that have no corresponding record in LineItem.  But when
I run the query above, it returns no records.

Any idea?

-C-


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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Tue Apr 20 20:45:23 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 19:45:23 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
Message-ID: <410-2200443211452378@christopherhawkins.com>

Yeah, I did something like that as a temp solution, just to my client
can keep working.

This is damned weird.  I can do the same thing on any other two
tables and it works fine.

Is there a limitation on how many records can be returned in a
subquery?

-Christopher-

---- Original Message ----
From: andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com, 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 10:57:12 +0930

>I was about to say that the AccessSQL dialect may not be able to 
>handle
>derived tables, but I tested it and it worked fine for me.
>
>Are they EntryID fields in both tables different data types perhaps?
>
>A workaround would be to use a Left join and filter where the 
>EntryID is
>Null:
>
>Select 
>    [field list]
>>From 
>    TimeEntry
>Left Join
>    EntryID
>ON 
>    TimeEntry.EntryID = LineItem.EntryID
>WHERE
>    LineItem.EntryID IS Null
>
>Cheers,
>Andrew
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com] 
>Sent: Wednesday, 21 April 2004 10:30 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
>
>All,
>
>This is weird.  I have a query that is supposed to return all records
>from a Time Entry table where the Entry ID is not in the Line Item
>table.
>
>So basically, it's "SELECT [field list here] FROM TimeEntry WHERE
>EntryID NOT IN (SELECT EntryID FROM LineItem)".
>
>Pretty simple, right?  I can verify that there are a ton of records
>in TimeEntry that have no corresponding record in LineItem.  But when
>I run the query above, it returns no records.
>
>Any idea?
>
>-C-
>
>
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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Tue Apr 20 20:48:01 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 19:48:01 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
Message-ID: <184670-2200443211481720@christopherhawkins.com>

Yes, same datatype.  No, no quotes.

Here's the SQL statement.  Understand that StartDate and EndDate are
dates that were passed in to the function that contains this SQL. 
I've pulled it apart into it's component pieces; it's definitely the
IN statement that is failing.

Here's the SQL:

        sInsert = "INSERT INTO TG_InvoiceLine (BlockID, UserId,
InvoiceID, ItemID, [Date], " & _
            "Description, QB_ActivitiesID, Billable, QBCustomerJob,
Qty, LineTotal, LineCost, Rate) " & _
            "SELECT TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockID,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.UserId, TG_qryTimeBlockReview.InvoiceId, " & _
            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.ItemID,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.[Date], TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockDescription,
" & _
            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.QB_ActivitiesID,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.Billable, " & _
            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.QB_NameID,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.Duration AS Qty, " & _
            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.LineTotal,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.LineCost, TG_qryTimeBlockReview.TG_Rate " & _
            "FROM TG_qryTimeBlockReview WHERE
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockID NOT IN (SELECT BlockID FROM
TG_InvoiceLine) AND (((TG_qryTimeBlockReview.[Date]) Between #" &
StartDate & "# And #" & EndDate & "#));"

-C-

---- Original Message ----
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com, 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:19:14 +1000

>On 20 Apr 2004 at 19:00, Christopher Hawkins wrote:
>
>> All,
>> 
>> This is weird.  I have a query that is supposed to return all 
>records
>> from a Time Entry table where the Entry ID is not in the Line Item
>> table.
>> 
>> So basically, it's "SELECT [field list here] FROM TimeEntry WHERE
>> EntryID NOT IN (SELECT EntryID FROM LineItem)".
>> 
>> Pretty simple, right?  I can verify that there are a ton of records
>> in TimeEntry that have no corresponding record in LineItem.  But 
>when
>> I run the query above, it returns no records.
>> 
>
>Is EntryID the same datatype in both tables? 
>
>As another thought, make sure that you haven't "quoted" the subquery 
>in your actual code..
>
>Maybe pasting the actual code would help.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Tue Apr 20 20:48:07 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 19:48:07 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
Message-ID: <63340-2200443211487408@christopherhawkins.com>

Yes, same datatype.  No, no quotes.

Here's the SQL statement.  Understand that StartDate and EndDate are
dates that were passed in to the function that contains this SQL. 
I've pulled it apart into it's component pieces; it's definitely the
IN statement that is failing.

Here's the SQL:

        sInsert = "INSERT INTO TG_InvoiceLine (BlockID, UserId,
InvoiceID, ItemID, [Date], " & _
            "Description, QB_ActivitiesID, Billable, QBCustomerJob,
Qty, LineTotal, LineCost, Rate) " & _
            "SELECT TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockID,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.UserId, TG_qryTimeBlockReview.InvoiceId, " & _
            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.ItemID,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.[Date], TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockDescription,
" & _
            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.QB_ActivitiesID,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.Billable, " & _
            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.QB_NameID,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.Duration AS Qty, " & _
            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.LineTotal,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.LineCost, TG_qryTimeBlockReview.TG_Rate " & _
            "FROM TG_qryTimeBlockReview WHERE
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockID NOT IN (SELECT BlockID FROM
TG_InvoiceLine) AND (((TG_qryTimeBlockReview.[Date]) Between #" &
StartDate & "# And #" & EndDate & "#));"

-C-

---- Original Message ----
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com, 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:19:14 +1000

>On 20 Apr 2004 at 19:00, Christopher Hawkins wrote:
>
>> All,
>> 
>> This is weird.  I have a query that is supposed to return all 
>records
>> from a Time Entry table where the Entry ID is not in the Line Item
>> table.
>> 
>> So basically, it's "SELECT [field list here] FROM TimeEntry WHERE
>> EntryID NOT IN (SELECT EntryID FROM LineItem)".
>> 
>> Pretty simple, right?  I can verify that there are a ton of records
>> in TimeEntry that have no corresponding record in LineItem.  But 
>when
>> I run the query above, it returns no records.
>> 
>
>Is EntryID the same datatype in both tables? 
>
>As another thought, make sure that you haven't "quoted" the subquery 
>in your actual code..
>
>Maybe pasting the actual code would help.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
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>Support.
>
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From andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au  Tue Apr 20 21:00:53 2004
From: andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au (Haslett, Andrew)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:30:53 +0930
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
Message-ID: <EAAA1F7DC874D511BA070008C70D61BBE3AABC@adl01s051.ilcorp.gov.au>

And it still doesn't work if you drop off the date related 'AND' clause in
the where function?

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, 21 April 2004 11:18 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???

Yes, same datatype.  No, no quotes.

Here's the SQL statement.  Understand that StartDate and EndDate are
dates that were passed in to the function that contains this SQL. 
I've pulled it apart into it's component pieces; it's definitely the
IN statement that is failing.

Here's the SQL:

        sInsert = "INSERT INTO TG_InvoiceLine (BlockID, UserId,
InvoiceID, ItemID, [Date], " & _
            "Description, QB_ActivitiesID, Billable, QBCustomerJob,
Qty, LineTotal, LineCost, Rate) " & _
            "SELECT TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockID,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.UserId, TG_qryTimeBlockReview.InvoiceId, " & _
            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.ItemID,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.[Date], TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockDescription,
" & _
            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.QB_ActivitiesID,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.Billable, " & _
            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.QB_NameID,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.Duration AS Qty, " & _
            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.LineTotal,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.LineCost, TG_qryTimeBlockReview.TG_Rate " & _
            "FROM TG_qryTimeBlockReview WHERE
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockID NOT IN (SELECT BlockID FROM
TG_InvoiceLine) AND (((TG_qryTimeBlockReview.[Date]) Between #" &
StartDate & "# And #" & EndDate & "#));"

-C-

---- Original Message ----
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com, 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:19:14 +1000

>On 20 Apr 2004 at 19:00, Christopher Hawkins wrote:
>
>> All,
>> 
>> This is weird.  I have a query that is supposed to return all 
>records
>> from a Time Entry table where the Entry ID is not in the Line Item
>> table.
>> 
>> So basically, it's "SELECT [field list here] FROM TimeEntry WHERE
>> EntryID NOT IN (SELECT EntryID FROM LineItem)".
>> 
>> Pretty simple, right?  I can verify that there are a ton of records
>> in TimeEntry that have no corresponding record in LineItem.  But 
>when
>> I run the query above, it returns no records.
>> 
>
>Is EntryID the same datatype in both tables? 
>
>As another thought, make sure that you haven't "quoted" the subquery 
>in your actual code..
>
>Maybe pasting the actual code would help.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>-- 
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>http://www.lexacorp.com.pg
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>Support.
>
>
>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 20 21:07:36 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 12:07:36 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
In-Reply-To: <63340-2200443211487408@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <40866408.26705.5C9F22C@localhost>

On 20 Apr 2004 at 19:48, Christopher Hawkins wrote:

> Yes, same datatype.  No, no quotes.
> 
> Here's the SQL statement.  Understand that StartDate and EndDate are
> dates that were passed in to the function that contains this SQL. 
> I've pulled it apart into it's component pieces; it's definitely the
> IN statement that is failing.
> 

1.  Does it resolve to:
" (NOT IN.... ) AND...." or "NOT (IN.... AND....)"
Try changing it to
"(NOT IN (SELECT BlockID FROM TG_InvoiceLine)) AND"


2. Are you 105% certain that it's not 
"(((TG_qryTimeBlockReview.[Date]) Between #" &
StartDate & "# And #" & EndDate & "#))" that's failing.

Parsing dates properly can be a real hassle. Your version is likely 
to fail if the default date fromat is "dd/mm/yy"

Try something like
....."Between " & Format$(StartDate,"#mm/dd/yy#") " & " AND " _
& Format$(EndDate,"#mm/dd/yy#")  & .....

> Here's the SQL:
> 
>         sInsert = "INSERT INTO TG_InvoiceLine (BlockID, UserId,
> InvoiceID, ItemID, [Date], " & _
>             "Description, QB_ActivitiesID, Billable, QBCustomerJob,
> Qty, LineTotal, LineCost, Rate) " & _
>             "SELECT TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockID,
> TG_qryTimeBlockReview.UserId, TG_qryTimeBlockReview.InvoiceId, " & _
>             "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.ItemID,
> TG_qryTimeBlockReview.[Date], TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockDescription,
> " & _
>             "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.QB_ActivitiesID,
> TG_qryTimeBlockReview.Billable, " & _
>             "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.QB_NameID,
> TG_qryTimeBlockReview.Duration AS Qty, " & _
>             "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.LineTotal,
> TG_qryTimeBlockReview.LineCost, TG_qryTimeBlockReview.TG_Rate " & _
>             "FROM TG_qryTimeBlockReview WHERE
> TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockID NOT IN (SELECT BlockID FROM
> TG_InvoiceLine) AND (((TG_qryTimeBlockReview.[Date]) Between #" &
> StartDate & "# And #" & EndDate & "#));"
> 
 
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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Tue Apr 20 21:12:11 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 20:12:11 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
Message-ID: <265000-22004432121211411@christopherhawkins.com>

Right.  As long as that IN statement is there, this thing returns
zero records.  There should be 262.

-C-

---- Original Message ----
From: andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com, 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:30:53 +0930

>And it still doesn't work if you drop off the date related 'AND' 
>clause in
>the where function?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com] 
>Sent: Wednesday, 21 April 2004 11:18 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
>
>Yes, same datatype.  No, no quotes.
>
>Here's the SQL statement.  Understand that StartDate and EndDate are
>dates that were passed in to the function that contains this SQL. 
>I've pulled it apart into it's component pieces; it's definitely the
>IN statement that is failing.
>
>Here's the SQL:
>
>        sInsert = "INSERT INTO TG_InvoiceLine (BlockID, UserId,
>InvoiceID, ItemID, [Date], " & _
>            "Description, QB_ActivitiesID, Billable, QBCustomerJob,
>Qty, LineTotal, LineCost, Rate) " & _
>            "SELECT TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockID,
>TG_qryTimeBlockReview.UserId, TG_qryTimeBlockReview.InvoiceId, " & _
>            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.ItemID,
>TG_qryTimeBlockReview.[Date], TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockDescription,
>" & _
>            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.QB_ActivitiesID,
>TG_qryTimeBlockReview.Billable, " & _
>            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.QB_NameID,
>TG_qryTimeBlockReview.Duration AS Qty, " & _
>            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.LineTotal,
>TG_qryTimeBlockReview.LineCost, TG_qryTimeBlockReview.TG_Rate " & _
>            "FROM TG_qryTimeBlockReview WHERE
>TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockID NOT IN (SELECT BlockID FROM
>TG_InvoiceLine) AND (((TG_qryTimeBlockReview.[Date]) Between #" &
>StartDate & "# And #" & EndDate & "#));"
>
>-C-
>
>---- Original Message ----
>From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com, 
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
>Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:19:14 +1000
>
>>On 20 Apr 2004 at 19:00, Christopher Hawkins wrote:
>>
>>> All,
>>> 
>>> This is weird.  I have a query that is supposed to return all 
>>records
>>> from a Time Entry table where the Entry ID is not in the Line Item
>>> table.
>>> 
>>> So basically, it's "SELECT [field list here] FROM TimeEntry WHERE
>>> EntryID NOT IN (SELECT EntryID FROM LineItem)".
>>> 
>>> Pretty simple, right?  I can verify that there are a ton of 
>records
>>> in TimeEntry that have no corresponding record in LineItem.  But 
>>when
>>> I run the query above, it returns no records.
>>> 
>>
>>Is EntryID the same datatype in both tables? 
>>
>>As another thought, make sure that you haven't "quoted" the 
>subquery 
>>in your actual code..
>>
>>Maybe pasting the actual code would help.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>-- 
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>>http://www.lexacorp.com.pg
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>>Support.
>>
>>
>>
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 20 21:17:25 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 22:17:25 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
In-Reply-To: <265000-22004432121211411@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <20040421021754.NPWG1778.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Are you sure the data you're checking meets the conditions? I didn't see the
original question, but if the syntax is correct, then the data's wrong. I've
seen something as simple as a leading space throw off the results and
they're hard to find. 


Right.  As long as that IN statement is there, this thing returns zero
records.  There should be 262.

-C-

---- Original Message ----
From: andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com,
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:30:53 +0930

>And it still doesn't work if you drop off the date related 'AND' 
>clause in
>the where function?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, 21 April 2004 11:18 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
>
>Yes, same datatype.  No, no quotes.
>
>Here's the SQL statement.  Understand that StartDate and EndDate are 
>dates that were passed in to the function that contains this SQL.
>I've pulled it apart into it's component pieces; it's definitely the IN 
>statement that is failing.
>
>Here's the SQL:
>
>        sInsert = "INSERT INTO TG_InvoiceLine (BlockID, UserId, 
>InvoiceID, ItemID, [Date], " & _
>            "Description, QB_ActivitiesID, Billable, QBCustomerJob, 
>Qty, LineTotal, LineCost, Rate) " & _
>            "SELECT TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockID, 
>TG_qryTimeBlockReview.UserId, TG_qryTimeBlockReview.InvoiceId, " & _
>            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.ItemID, 
>TG_qryTimeBlockReview.[Date], TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockDescription,
>" & _
>            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.QB_ActivitiesID,
>TG_qryTimeBlockReview.Billable, " & _
>            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.QB_NameID, 
>TG_qryTimeBlockReview.Duration AS Qty, " & _
>            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.LineTotal, 
>TG_qryTimeBlockReview.LineCost, TG_qryTimeBlockReview.TG_Rate " & _
>            "FROM TG_qryTimeBlockReview WHERE 
>TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockID NOT IN (SELECT BlockID FROM
>TG_InvoiceLine) AND (((TG_qryTimeBlockReview.[Date]) Between #" & 
>StartDate & "# And #" & EndDate & "#));"
>
>-C-
>
>---- Original Message ----
>From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com,
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
>Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:19:14 +1000
>
>>On 20 Apr 2004 at 19:00, Christopher Hawkins wrote:
>>
>>> All,
>>> 
>>> This is weird.  I have a query that is supposed to return all
>>records
>>> from a Time Entry table where the Entry ID is not in the Line Item 
>>> table.
>>> 
>>> So basically, it's "SELECT [field list here] FROM TimeEntry WHERE 
>>> EntryID NOT IN (SELECT EntryID FROM LineItem)".
>>> 
>>> Pretty simple, right?  I can verify that there are a ton of
>records
>>> in TimeEntry that have no corresponding record in LineItem.  But
>>when
>>> I run the query above, it returns no records.
>>> 
>>
>>Is EntryID the same datatype in both tables? 
>>
>>As another thought, make sure that you haven't "quoted" the
>subquery
>>in your actual code..
>>
>>Maybe pasting the actual code would help.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>--
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>>http://www.lexacorp.com.pg
>>Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System 
>>Support.
>>
>>
>>
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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Tue Apr 20 21:27:14 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 20:27:14 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
Message-ID: <191690-22004432122714422@christopherhawkins.com>

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUGH!

There were some nulls in the BlockID field of the TG_InvoiceLine
table.  I set those to 0 and the IN statement started to work again.

Heh.  What an idiot.

Thanks, everybody, and especially Susan for bringing up the dirty
data angle.

-C-

---- Original Message ----
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com, 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 22:17:25 -0400

>Are you sure the data you're checking meets the conditions? I didn't 
>see the
>original question, but if the syntax is correct, then the data's 
>wrong. I've
>seen something as simple as a leading space throw off the results and
>they're hard to find. 
>
>
>Right.  As long as that IN statement is there, this thing returns 
>zero
>records.  There should be 262.
>
>-C-
>
>---- Original Message ----
>From: andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com,
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
>Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:30:53 +0930
>
>>And it still doesn't work if you drop off the date related 'AND' 
>>clause in
>>the where function?
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com]
>>Sent: Wednesday, 21 April 2004 11:18 AM
>>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
>>
>>Yes, same datatype.  No, no quotes.
>>
>>Here's the SQL statement.  Understand that StartDate and EndDate 
>are 
>>dates that were passed in to the function that contains this SQL.
>>I've pulled it apart into it's component pieces; it's definitely 
>the IN 
>>statement that is failing.
>>
>>Here's the SQL:
>>
>>        sInsert = "INSERT INTO TG_InvoiceLine (BlockID, UserId, 
>>InvoiceID, ItemID, [Date], " & _
>>            "Description, QB_ActivitiesID, Billable, QBCustomerJob, 
>>Qty, LineTotal, LineCost, Rate) " & _
>>            "SELECT TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockID, 
>>TG_qryTimeBlockReview.UserId, TG_qryTimeBlockReview.InvoiceId, " & _
>>            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.ItemID, 
>>TG_qryTimeBlockReview.[Date], 
>TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockDescription,
>>" & _
>>            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.QB_ActivitiesID,
>>TG_qryTimeBlockReview.Billable, " & _
>>            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.QB_NameID, 
>>TG_qryTimeBlockReview.Duration AS Qty, " & _
>>            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.LineTotal, 
>>TG_qryTimeBlockReview.LineCost, TG_qryTimeBlockReview.TG_Rate " & _
>>            "FROM TG_qryTimeBlockReview WHERE 
>>TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockID NOT IN (SELECT BlockID FROM
>>TG_InvoiceLine) AND (((TG_qryTimeBlockReview.[Date]) Between #" & 
>>StartDate & "# And #" & EndDate & "#));"
>>
>>-C-
>>
>>---- Original Message ----
>>From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg
>>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com,
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
>>Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:19:14 +1000
>>
>>>On 20 Apr 2004 at 19:00, Christopher Hawkins wrote:
>>>
>>>> All,
>>>> 
>>>> This is weird.  I have a query that is supposed to return all
>>>records
>>>> from a Time Entry table where the Entry ID is not in the Line 
>Item 
>>>> table.
>>>> 
>>>> So basically, it's "SELECT [field list here] FROM TimeEntry 
>WHERE 
>>>> EntryID NOT IN (SELECT EntryID FROM LineItem)".
>>>> 
>>>> Pretty simple, right?  I can verify that there are a ton of
>>records
>>>> in TimeEntry that have no corresponding record in LineItem.  But
>>>when
>>>> I run the query above, it returns no records.
>>>> 
>>>
>>>Is EntryID the same datatype in both tables? 
>>>
>>>As another thought, make sure that you haven't "quoted" the
>>subquery
>>>in your actual code..
>>>
>>>Maybe pasting the actual code would help.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 20 21:35:53 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 22:35:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
In-Reply-To: <191690-22004432122714422@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <20040421023552.SAUG1774.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Susan's my name, dirty data's my game... ;) 

Glad to help. 

Susan H. 

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUGH!

There were some nulls in the BlockID field of the TG_InvoiceLine table.  I
set those to 0 and the IN statement started to work again.

Heh.  What an idiot.

Thanks, everybody, and especially Susan for bringing up the dirty data
angle.




From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Apr 20 21:41:17 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 19:41:17 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040420204838.HADS1779.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIMENJCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Susan:


... how would you prevent an error in the form? I suppose
I could just handle it and remind the user to open the form and ...

Private Sub Report_Open(Cancel As Integer)
  
  If SysCmd(acSysCmdGetObjectState, acForm, "TheFormthatIwhat") <> 0 Then
   If Forms("TheFormthatIwhat").CurrentView = 0 Then
     MsgBox "Form Project must currently" & vbCr & _
           "active to supply information.", vbExclamation, "Error..."
     Cancel = True
   End If
  End If

End Function

Place code similar to this in the Report's Open event.

Jim


From pharryecoenen at btinternet.com  Tue Apr 20 20:58:20 2004
From: pharryecoenen at btinternet.com (Harry Coenen)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 02:58:20 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
In-Reply-To: <63340-2200443211487408@christopherhawkins.com>
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I guess this is it:

WHERE 
  (           '<<=============================bracket added
   TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockID 
   NOT IN 
    (
      SELECT BlockID 
      FROM TG_InvoiceLine
    ) 
  )           '<<=============================bracket added
 AND 
  (
   (
     (TG_qryTimeBlockReview.[Date]) 
	Between 
		#" & StartDate & "# 
	And 
		#" & EndDate & "#
   )
  )
;
"
>
>-C-
>
>---- Original Message ----
>From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com, 
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
>Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:19:14 +1000
>
>>On 20 Apr 2004 at 19:00, Christopher Hawkins wrote:
>>
>>> All,
>>> 
>>> This is weird.  I have a query that is supposed to return all 
>>records
>>> from a Time Entry table where the Entry ID is not in the Line Item
>>> table.
>>> 
>>> So basically, it's "SELECT [field list here] FROM TimeEntry WHERE
>>> EntryID NOT IN (SELECT EntryID FROM LineItem)".
>>> 
>>> Pretty simple, right?  I can verify that there are a ton of records
>>> in TimeEntry that have no corresponding record in LineItem.  But 
>>when
>>> I run the query above, it returns no records.
>>> 
>>
>>Is EntryID the same datatype in both tables? 
>>
>>As another thought, make sure that you haven't "quoted" the subquery 
>>in your actual code..
>>
>>Maybe pasting the actual code would help.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
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>>http://www.lexacorp.com.pg
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>>Support.
>>
>>
>>
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From pharryecoenen at btinternet.com  Tue Apr 20 17:51:05 2004
From: pharryecoenen at btinternet.com (Harry Coenen)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 23:51:05 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040420214843.NWZL1832.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
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Hi Susan

>From Google: NLS = National Language Support

Constant Value Description 
vbUseSystem 0 Use National Language Support (NLS) API setting.
vbSunday 1 Sunday 
vbMonday 2 Monday 
vbTuesday 3 Tuesday 
vbWednesday 4 Wednesday 
vbThursday 5 Thursday 
vbFriday 6 Friday 
vbSaturday 7 Saturday 

And that's where the search ends
But comparing, for example, USA and and UK(English) calendars the NLS would
probably be:
USA NLS = 1 = Sunday
UK  NLS = 2 = Monday


In case of doubt, I would like to suggest your DON't use the user's system
settings, but enforce the correct FirstDayOfWeek and FirstWeekofYear based
on company policy


Regards
Harry


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>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
>Susan Harkins
>Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 10:49 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
>
>
>Use NLS API setting
>
>I suppose in both cases the value will be derived from the 
>systems settings
>in the machines registry
>
>=============I wanted more infomration on NLS API -- but didn't turn up
>anything. 
>
>Susan H. 
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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Tue Apr 20 23:19:20 2004
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (David McAfee (Home))
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 21:19:20 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
In-Reply-To: <184670-2200443211481720@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKGEGNEBAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

This is a known issue with "IN (Select..."

You need to create an unmatched query using left join:

Select * from tblA
LEFT JOIN tblB
  ON tblA.PK = tblB.FK
WHERE tblB.FK = Null



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Christopher
Hawkins
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 6:48 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???


Yes, same datatype.  No, no quotes.

Here's the SQL statement.  Understand that StartDate and EndDate are
dates that were passed in to the function that contains this SQL. 
I've pulled it apart into it's component pieces; it's definitely the
IN statement that is failing.

Here's the SQL:

        sInsert = "INSERT INTO TG_InvoiceLine (BlockID, UserId,
InvoiceID, ItemID, [Date], " & _
            "Description, QB_ActivitiesID, Billable, QBCustomerJob,
Qty, LineTotal, LineCost, Rate) " & _
            "SELECT TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockID,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.UserId, TG_qryTimeBlockReview.InvoiceId, " & _
            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.ItemID,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.[Date], TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockDescription,
" & _
            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.QB_ActivitiesID,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.Billable, " & _
            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.QB_NameID,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.Duration AS Qty, " & _
            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.LineTotal,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.LineCost, TG_qryTimeBlockReview.TG_Rate " & _
            "FROM TG_qryTimeBlockReview WHERE
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockID NOT IN (SELECT BlockID FROM
TG_InvoiceLine) AND (((TG_qryTimeBlockReview.[Date]) Between #" &
StartDate & "# And #" & EndDate & "#));"

-C-

---- Original Message ----
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com, 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:19:14 +1000

>On 20 Apr 2004 at 19:00, Christopher Hawkins wrote:
>
>> All,
>> 
>> This is weird.  I have a query that is supposed to return all 
>records
>> from a Time Entry table where the Entry ID is not in the Line Item
>> table.
>> 
>> So basically, it's "SELECT [field list here] FROM TimeEntry WHERE
>> EntryID NOT IN (SELECT EntryID FROM LineItem)".
>> 
>> Pretty simple, right?  I can verify that there are a ton of records
>> in TimeEntry that have no corresponding record in LineItem.  But 
>when
>> I run the query above, it returns no records.
>> 
>
>Is EntryID the same datatype in both tables? 
>
>As another thought, make sure that you haven't "quoted" the subquery 
>in your actual code..
>
>Maybe pasting the actual code would help.


From pharryecoenen at btinternet.com  Tue Apr 20 20:51:19 2004
From: pharryecoenen at btinternet.com (Harry Coenen)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 02:51:19 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
In-Reply-To: <255310-22004432110959@christopherhawkins.com>
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Christopher

Should work indeed (does in A2k2)

a.1 If in Query designer, look at properties of query 
a.2 Make sure the both EntryID fields are of the same DataType
a.3 check for trailing spaces if this datatype is Text (can happen with
impoerts from other sources or connections with other sources. Use Trim() to
strip of spaces in the query (see below)

b. avoid possible ambiguity by ysing table

SELECT [field list here] 
FROM TimeEntry
WHERE Trim(TimeEntry.EntryID) NOT IN 
(SELECT Trim(LineItem.EntryID) FROM LineItem)

c. try the JOIN equivalent, works probably faster because the engine should
deliver better optimization

SELECT [field list here] 
FROM TimeEntry LEFT JOIN LineItem
ON TimeEntry.EntryID = LineItem.EntryID
WHERE (LineItem.EntryID  Is Null) ;

d. Try 

SELECT [field list here] 
FROM TimeEntry
WHERE NOT EXISTS 
(SELECT LineItem.EntryID 
FROM LineItem
WHERE LineItem.EntryID = TimeEntry.EntryID) ;

e. Give Up



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>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
>Christopher Hawkins
>Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 2:00 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
>
>
>All,
>
>This is weird.  I have a query that is supposed to return all records
>from a Time Entry table where the Entry ID is not in the Line Item
>table.
>
>So basically, it's "SELECT [field list here] FROM TimeEntry WHERE
>EntryID NOT IN (SELECT EntryID FROM LineItem)".
>
>Pretty simple, right?  I can verify that there are a ton of records
>in TimeEntry that have no corresponding record in LineItem.  But when
>I run the query above, it returns no records.
>
>Any idea?
>
>-C-
>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 21 03:19:20 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 10:19:20 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040420204838.HADS1779.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <20040420204838.HADS1779.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <655792989.20040421101920@cactus.dk>

Hi Susan

Well, I didn't try to prove an alternative method would be "easier",
and you didn't specify that the report should be able to run without
the form open; it sounded liked you opened the report from a button on
the form after having selected a First-Day-Of-Week.

I agree that for wild "applications" where users can do anything even
having access to tables and report/form design you must take into
account that this or that form may not be open or may have been closed
by the user. There are many ways to handle these chaos scenarios,
ranging from simple error traps and message boxes to, for this case,
forcing the report to open the form if it is closed or closing the
report on open if the form is not open.

The missing selection of a First-Day-Of-Week on the form could be
handled by setting a default value.

For myself, I would probably apply the suggestion of Stuart, but I
realize that static functions may fly above the head of the average
user.

/gustav


> If the expression's in the query and you open the report without specifying
> the value in the form, how would you prevent an error in the form? I suppose
> I could just handle it and remind the user to open the form and choose the
> first day of the week. 

> Right now, I've set the report to default to a value and since the
> expression's in the report, it works whether you start from the form or just
> open the report. You can't specify the grouping value when you open the
> report that way, but at least there's no error -- which is a nice
> alternative especially if the first day of the week seldom changes. That way
> the user's not forced to go through the form every time. 

> I realize I sound really picky -- but these are the sort of nitpicky
> problems I get from readers. These solutions have to be as universal as
> possible or I get email. :) "It won't work if...." even when I've told them
> clearly in the article that it won't work if... but somehow it's still the
> article's shortcoming. It's always best if I can head them off. 

> Which reminds me -- can someone explain the vbUseSystem constant? There's
> almost nothing about it on msdn. It's a system default, but there's not much
> about it. Well, the serious search-challenged was unable to find anything on
> it besides a vague reference -- no real explanation of the consequences.

> Susan H. 

> Hi Susan

> In the query you can pick the value from the form as an expression:

>   Select
>     ...,
>     [Forms].[frmSomeForm].[txtTextbox] As FirstDayOfWeek
>   From
>     ...

> Is is recommendable also to specify this as a parameter to avoid type
> mismatch errors, indeed if the textbox is unbound:

>   Parameters [Forms].[frmSomeForm].[txtTextbox] Byte;

> I don't know what your module does, but basically the date of the first day
> of the week of datDate can be found from this formula:

>   DateWeekFirst =
>     DateAdd("d", vbSunday - WeekDay(datDate, FirstDayOfWeek), datDate)

> You would need to replace vbSunday with the actual value (1 for A97).
    
> End Function

> /gustav


>> Let me rephrase that -- if I have to have a module, I don't think I 
>> really care what gets passed where -- my hope was to eliminate the 
>> module and do all the calculating in the query or the report and I 
>> thought I might be able to bypass the module using the openargs 
>> argument. Replacing the module I have for one that passes the value to 
>> a query really doesn't resolve the issue I had.

>> Susan H. 

>> That's what I'd like to do -- and may do yet  by passing the 
>> firstdayofweek value from the form to the query instead of the report. 
>> Truth is, I don't know how -- I can't remember ever passing a value to 
>> a query before and a parameter query is out.

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 21 04:16:27 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:16:27 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
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Message-ID: <1139219717.20040421111627@cactus.dk>

Hi Mark

I would go with the union query as well.

The ID can be added by a function like this:

<code>

Public Function SequentialID( _
  ByVal booReset As Boolean, _
  Optional ByVal varDummy, _
  Optional ByVal intIncrement As Integer = 1, _
  Optional ByVal lngInitialID As Long) As Long
  
  ' Increments static variable lngCurrentID with intIncrement.
  ' Returns the new value of lngCurrentID.
  ' Parameter varDummy is used to force repeated calls of
  ' this function when used in a query.
  '
  ' Reset to start counting from zero incrementing by one:
  '   Call SequentialID(True)
  ' Reset to start counting from 1000:
  '   Call SequentialID(True, Null, 1, 1000)
  ' Reset to start counting from zero incrementing by 2:
  '   Call SequentialID(True, Null, 2)
  ' Reset to start counting from -2000 incrementing by -8
  ' and returning initial ID:
  '   lngID = SequentialID(True, Null, -8, -2000)
  '
  ' Retrieve the current ID:
  '   lngID = SequentialID(False)
  ' Do a count by one and retrieve the current ID:
  '   lngID = SequentialID(False, Null, 1)
  ' Do a count by one in a query and retrieve the current ID:
  '   lngID = SequentialID(False, [fldAnyField], 1)
  ' Do a count by minus two and retrieve the current ID:
  '   lngID = SequentialID(False, varAny, -2)
  '
  ' 2001-12-13. Cactus Data ApS, CPH.
  
  Static lngCurrentID As Long
  Dim intSgn          As Integer
  
  If booReset = True Then
    ' Reset ID.
    lngCurrentID = lngInitialID
  ElseIf Not intIncrement = 0 Then
    intSgn = Sgn(intIncrement)
    If intSgn * lngCurrentID < intSgn * lngInitialID Then
      ' Reset ID.
      lngCurrentID = lngInitialID
    Else
      ' Increment ID.
      lngCurrentID = lngCurrentID + intIncrement
    End If
  End If
  
  SequentialID = lngCurrentID
  
End Function

</code>

Have fun!

/gustav


> How about something like:

> SELECT CODE, SA
> FROM T1
> WHERE SA NOT IS NULL
> UNION
> SELECT CODE, SAR
> FROM T1
> WHERE SAR NOT IS NULL
> UNION
> SELECT CODE, SRD
> FROM T1
> WHERE SRD NOT IS NULL;

> Then you only need to get your PK right
> If you really wnat the numbering as indicated you could pass the above query
> to a table with a PK as autonumber

> There must be a way to do this in the query, I have seen it somewhere, but
> where?

> Regards

> Harry

>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
>>Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 10:08 PM
>>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
>>
>>
>>I did just that to create the primary tables.  But, since I've 
>>never had to
>>do this on such a grand scale, I need assistance in generating 
>>the junction
>>table.  Here is pseudo data for clarification.  I've placed dashes to
>>maintain alignment.
>>
>>ID--CODE--SA--SAR--SRD
>>1---EA1---SA--SAR--SRD
>>2---EEY1--SA
>>3---EEY2--SA--SAR--SRD
>>
>>...from the data above, I need:
>>PK--CODE--TYPE
>>1---EA1---SA
>>2---EA1---SAR
>>3---EA1---SRD
>>4---EEY1--SA
>>5---EEY2--SA
>>6---EEY2--SAR
>>7---EEY2--SRD
>>
>>Any suggestions?
>>
>>Mark
>>
>>
>>
>>> Is there a method to create a junction table from a non-normalized table?
>>> I inherited a table that I now need to normalize into two primary tables and
>>> a joining junction table.  The primary tables were easy enough to create,
>>> but how can I create the junction table?
>>>
>>> I want to take a records such as:
>>> Fld1 Fld2 Fld3 Fld4 Fld5 <=Fields
>>> Dat1 Fld2 Fld4 Fld5 <=Record
>>> Dat2 Fld3 Fld4 <=Record
>>>
>>> And turn it into:
>>> Fld1 FldID <=Fields
>>> Dat1 Fld2 <=Record
>>> Dat1 Fld4 <=Record
>>> Dat1 Fld5 <=Record
>>> Dat2 Fld3 <=Record
>>> Dat2 Fld4 <=Record



From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Wed Apr 21 06:48:01 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 07:48:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB8A@nnse14.nns.com>

Thank you so much for your combined suggestions.  I too thought that this
could somehow be completed using some sort of self-join or union type of
query, but had no idea as to how to proceed.  I will be digesting this
today.


Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: Harry Coenen [mailto:pharryecoenen at btinternet.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 5:36 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data


Hi Mark

How about something like:

SELECT CODE, SA
FROM T1
WHERE SA NOT IS NULL
UNION
SELECT CODE, SAR
FROM T1
WHERE SAR NOT IS NULL
UNION
SELECT CODE, SRD
FROM T1
WHERE SRD NOT IS NULL;

Then you only need to get your PK right
If you really wnat the numbering as indicated you could pass the above query
to a table with a PK as autonumber

There must be a way to do this in the query, I have seen it somewhere, but
where?

Regards

Harry

>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
>Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)
>Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 10:08 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
>
>
>I did just that to create the primary tables.  But, since I've 
>never had to
>do this on such a grand scale, I need assistance in generating 
>the junction
>table.  Here is pseudo data for clarification.  I've placed dashes to
>maintain alignment.
>
>ID--CODE--SA--SAR--SRD
>1---EA1---SA--SAR--SRD
>2---EEY1--SA
>3---EEY2--SA--SAR--SRD
>
>...from the data above, I need:
>PK--CODE--TYPE
>1---EA1---SA
>2---EA1---SAR
>3---EA1---SRD
>4---EEY1--SA
>5---EEY2--SA
>6---EEY2--SAR
>7---EEY2--SRD
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>Mark
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] 
>Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:42 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
>
>
>...I know of no simple way to do this ...my approach has 
>always been to add
>an ANPK to the original table and then to use that as the control to
>populate the derivative tables through a series of queries ...but the
>circumstances change so much from mdb to mdb that I've never 
>been able to
>write code that ever worked for more than one situation.
>
>William Hindman
>"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing 
>your code is
>a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
>To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:23 PM
>Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
>
>
>> Group,
>>
>> Is there a method to create a junction table from a 
>non-normalized table?
>I
>> inherited a table that I now need to normalize into two 
>primary tables and
>a
>> joining junction table.  The primary tables were easy enough 
>to create,
>but
>> how can I create the junction table?
>>
>> I want to take a records such as:
>> Fld1 Fld2 Fld3 Fld4 Fld5 <=Fields
>> Dat1 Fld2 Fld4 Fld5 <=Record
>> Dat2 Fld3 Fld4 <=Record
>>
>> And turn it into:
>> Fld1 FldID <=Fields
>> Dat1 Fld2 <=Record
>> Dat1 Fld4 <=Record
>> Dat1 Fld5 <=Record
>> Dat2 Fld3 <=Record
>> Dat2 Fld4 <=Record
>>
>>
>> Mark
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Wed Apr 21 06:53:08 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 07:53:08 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB8C@nnse14.nns.com>

This is the approach I was leaning towards.  I've parsed many a text file in
my day and can definitely do this, but, being primarily self-taught in SQL,
I thought perhaps I was missing something basic that would be considered
common knowledge to most.



Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart McLachlan [mailto:stuart at lexacorp.com.pg] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 7:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data


On 20 Apr 2004 at 17:08, Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport Ne wrote:

> I did just that to create the primary tables.  But, since I've never had
to
> do this on such a grand scale, I need assistance in generating the
junction
> table.  Here is pseudo data for clarification.  I've placed dashes to
> maintain alignment.
> 
> ID--CODE--SA--SAR--SRD
> 1---EA1---SA--SAR--SRD
> 2---EEY1--SA
> 3---EEY2--SA--SAR--SRD
> 
> ...from the data above, I need:
> PK--CODE--TYPE
> 1---EA1---SA
> 2---EA1---SAR
> 3---EA1---SRD
> 4---EEY1--SA
> 5---EEY2--SA
> 6---EEY2--SAR
> 7---EEY2--SRD
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 

I'd do it in code.
Open the old data set and step through it.
For each record, step through the fields and create a new record in 
the new table where required.

 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Apr 21 07:02:45 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 22:02:45 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
In-Reply-To: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB8C@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <4086EF85.22013.7EAD090@localhost>

On 21 Apr 2004 at 7:53, Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport Ne wrote:

> This is the approach I was leaning towards.  I've parsed many a text file in
> my day and can definitely do this, but, being primarily self-taught in SQL,
> I thought perhaps I was missing something basic that would be considered
> common knowledge to most.
> 
> I'd do it in code.
> Open the old data set and step through it.
> For each record, step through the fields and create a new record in 
> the new table where required.
> 

Having seen a couple of other responses and thought about it a bit 
more,  I wouldn't do it this way now. Using three UNIONed queries  
into an empty table with a predefinded Automnumber field is simpler.







 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Apr 21 07:02:45 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 22:02:45 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
In-Reply-To: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB8C@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <4086EF85.22013.7EAD090@localhost>

On 21 Apr 2004 at 7:53, Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport Ne wrote:

> This is the approach I was leaning towards.  I've parsed many a text file in
> my day and can definitely do this, but, being primarily self-taught in SQL,
> I thought perhaps I was missing something basic that would be considered
> common knowledge to most.
> 
> I'd do it in code.
> Open the old data set and step through it.
> For each record, step through the fields and create a new record in 
> the new table where required.
> 

Having seen a couple of other responses and thought about it a bit 
more,  I wouldn't do it this way now. Using three UNIONed queries  
into an empty table with a predefinded Automnumber field is simpler.







 
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Wed Apr 21 07:48:45 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 08:48:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB8D@nnse14.nns.com>

I have admittedly been using pseudo names for the actual data, there will be
in fact, several more fields in this query resulting in a rather large union
query.  In the event that I run into problems, is there anyone who would
volunteer to look over my actual query structure?



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart McLachlan [mailto:stuart at lexacorp.com.pg] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 8:03 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data


On 21 Apr 2004 at 7:53, Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport Ne wrote:

> This is the approach I was leaning towards.  I've parsed many a text file
in
> my day and can definitely do this, but, being primarily self-taught in
SQL,
> I thought perhaps I was missing something basic that would be considered
> common knowledge to most.
> 
> I'd do it in code.
> Open the old data set and step through it.
> For each record, step through the fields and create a new record in 
> the new table where required.
> 

Having seen a couple of other responses and thought about it a bit 
more,  I wouldn't do it this way now. Using three UNIONed queries  
into an empty table with a predefinded Automnumber field is simpler.







 
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Wed Apr 21 08:58:37 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 09:58:37 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data *SOLVED*
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB8F@nnse14.nns.com>

Although it seemed, at first, rather complicated, the union query worked
great.  My only thought was I wish there was a simpler way to turn a union
query into a Make-Table query:(  But we can't have everything, can we?


Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 5:16 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data


Hi Mark

I would go with the union query as well.

The ID can be added by a function like this:

<code>

Public Function SequentialID( _
  ByVal booReset As Boolean, _
  Optional ByVal varDummy, _
  Optional ByVal intIncrement As Integer = 1, _
  Optional ByVal lngInitialID As Long) As Long
  
  ' Increments static variable lngCurrentID with intIncrement.
  ' Returns the new value of lngCurrentID.
  ' Parameter varDummy is used to force repeated calls of
  ' this function when used in a query.
  '
  ' Reset to start counting from zero incrementing by one:
  '   Call SequentialID(True)
  ' Reset to start counting from 1000:
  '   Call SequentialID(True, Null, 1, 1000)
  ' Reset to start counting from zero incrementing by 2:
  '   Call SequentialID(True, Null, 2)
  ' Reset to start counting from -2000 incrementing by -8
  ' and returning initial ID:
  '   lngID = SequentialID(True, Null, -8, -2000)
  '
  ' Retrieve the current ID:
  '   lngID = SequentialID(False)
  ' Do a count by one and retrieve the current ID:
  '   lngID = SequentialID(False, Null, 1)
  ' Do a count by one in a query and retrieve the current ID:
  '   lngID = SequentialID(False, [fldAnyField], 1)
  ' Do a count by minus two and retrieve the current ID:
  '   lngID = SequentialID(False, varAny, -2)
  '
  ' 2001-12-13. Cactus Data ApS, CPH.
  
  Static lngCurrentID As Long
  Dim intSgn          As Integer
  
  If booReset = True Then
    ' Reset ID.
    lngCurrentID = lngInitialID
  ElseIf Not intIncrement = 0 Then
    intSgn = Sgn(intIncrement)
    If intSgn * lngCurrentID < intSgn * lngInitialID Then
      ' Reset ID.
      lngCurrentID = lngInitialID
    Else
      ' Increment ID.
      lngCurrentID = lngCurrentID + intIncrement
    End If
  End If
  
  SequentialID = lngCurrentID
  
End Function

</code>

Have fun!

/gustav


> How about something like:

> SELECT CODE, SA
> FROM T1
> WHERE SA NOT IS NULL
> UNION
> SELECT CODE, SAR
> FROM T1
> WHERE SAR NOT IS NULL
> UNION
> SELECT CODE, SRD
> FROM T1
> WHERE SRD NOT IS NULL;

> Then you only need to get your PK right
> If you really wnat the numbering as indicated you could pass the above
query
> to a table with a PK as autonumber

> There must be a way to do this in the query, I have seen it somewhere, but
> where?

> Regards

> Harry

>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
>>Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 10:08 PM
>>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
>>
>>
>>I did just that to create the primary tables.  But, since I've 
>>never had to
>>do this on such a grand scale, I need assistance in generating 
>>the junction
>>table.  Here is pseudo data for clarification.  I've placed dashes to
>>maintain alignment.
>>
>>ID--CODE--SA--SAR--SRD
>>1---EA1---SA--SAR--SRD
>>2---EEY1--SA
>>3---EEY2--SA--SAR--SRD
>>
>>...from the data above, I need:
>>PK--CODE--TYPE
>>1---EA1---SA
>>2---EA1---SAR
>>3---EA1---SRD
>>4---EEY1--SA
>>5---EEY2--SA
>>6---EEY2--SAR
>>7---EEY2--SRD
>>
>>Any suggestions?
>>
>>Mark
>>
>>
>>
>>> Is there a method to create a junction table from a non-normalized
table?
>>> I inherited a table that I now need to normalize into two primary tables
and
>>> a joining junction table.  The primary tables were easy enough to
create,
>>> but how can I create the junction table?
>>>
>>> I want to take a records such as:
>>> Fld1 Fld2 Fld3 Fld4 Fld5 <=Fields
>>> Dat1 Fld2 Fld4 Fld5 <=Record
>>> Dat2 Fld3 Fld4 <=Record
>>>
>>> And turn it into:
>>> Fld1 FldID <=Fields
>>> Dat1 Fld2 <=Record
>>> Dat1 Fld4 <=Record
>>> Dat1 Fld5 <=Record
>>> Dat2 Fld3 <=Record
>>> Dat2 Fld4 <=Record

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 21 09:24:09 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 16:24:09 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data *SOLVED*
In-Reply-To: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB8F@nnse14.nns.com>
References: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB8F@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <9527682034.20040421162409@cactus.dk>

Hi Mark

> Although it seemed, at first, rather complicated, the union query worked
> great.  My only thought was I wish there was a simpler way to turn a union
> query into a Make-Table query:(  But we can't have everything, can we?

When I need that, I create the union query as a select query. Then I
use that query as source in a new query (append or create) - that way
you can keep the union query as simple as possible.

/gustav

> I would go with the union query as well.



From KIsmert at TexasSystems.com  Wed Apr 21 10:49:44 2004
From: KIsmert at TexasSystems.com (Ken Ismert)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 10:49:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040420174912.DNB1728.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <001a01c427b8$449dbb30$2a3ca8c0@TEXASSYSTEMS.COM>


Have you tried an expression in your query like:

GroupDay:
(Weekday([DateField])+IIf(Weekday([DateField])<[FirstDayOfWeek],7,0))

For a FirstDayOfWeek = 4 (Wednesday), it would return the desired grouping
order:

WeekDay   GroupDay
  4         4
  5         5
  6         6
  7         7
  1         8
  2         9
  3         10

This way, you can avoid any function or calculated control on your report.
You could replace [FirstDayOfWeek] with WeekDay(Date()), or source it from a
form.

-Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 12:49 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


That's what I'd like to do -- and may do yet  by passing the firstdayofweek
value from the form to the query instead of the report. Truth is, I don't
know how -- I can't remember ever passing a value to a query before and a
parameter query is out.

Susan H.

Right.  Except when I need to sort or group on an unbound control.  That's
when I have to add it to the query and bind the control to that field in the
query.






From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Wed Apr 21 13:26:52 2004
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 23:56:52 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
References: <20040417224653.KZKB1818.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <009601c427ce$7b629120$ef1865cb@winxp>

Susan,

    For date field named CDate, in report named R_Sales, the following course of action should meet your needs -

    (a) In the sorting and grouping dialog box of the report, enter the following expression (pl watch for word wrap) as first item in first column -
    =Format([CDate],"yyyy") & Format(DatePart("ww",[CDate],Fn_WeekStart()),"00")
    Set the sort order to Ascending
    Set the group header property for this item to Yes.

    (b) Select CDate as the second item in sorting and grouping dialog box and set the sort order to Ascending

    (c) Put the following code in report's open event so as to initialize the global variable WkStart -
    Private Sub Report_Open(Cancel As Integer)
        WkStart = IIf(Len(Me.OpenArgs) > 0, Me.OpenArgs, 1)
    End Sub

    (d) In the form, put the following code in click event of the command button for opening the report -
    Private Sub CmdReport_Click()
        DoCmd.OpenReport "R_Sales",  _
                        acViewPreview, , , , TxtWkStart
    End Sub
    ' Note - TxtWkStart is the text box where the user enters his choice of starting day of the week. Default value can be set as 1 (Sunday). Validation rule >= 1 And <= 7

    (e) In the general module, code block given below may be put -
    Option Compare Database
    Option Explicit
    Public WkStart As Integer   ' Global Variable.

    Public Function Fn_WeekStart()
        Fn_WeekStart = IIf(WkStart > 0, WkStart, 1)
    End Function

    With the above measures, dynamic manipulation of start day for weeks constituting group headers should proceed smoothly without unwanted error messages.

    Note - As an alternative, the global variable WkStart can be initialized directly from the click event of command button. In such a case the procedure in open event of the report (mentioned above) should be commented out. In fact this second alternative is considered preferable.

Regards,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Susan Harkins 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 04:16
  Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


  I'm grouping and sorting a report on a date field. The grouping is by the
  week -- but I want it to handle a changing first day of the week variable. I
  can't get my head around it at all. 
   
  Passing the first day of the week around is no problem -- I just can't seem
  to get Access to group by it. I've looked at CreateGroupLevel, but I don't
  see how that can help. 
   
  I tried adding a DatePart expression to the Detail section and using the
  OpenArgs property to pass the first day of the week, and while the
  expression works, I can't group by it -- it's a calculated control. I don't
  want the users manipulating the underlying query either. They choose the
  first day of the week from a simple form and the rest needs to happen behind
  the scenes. 
   
  Any suggestions? 
   
  Susan H. 



From DMcAfee at haascnc.com  Wed Apr 21 15:13:26 2004
From: DMcAfee at haascnc.com (David McAfee)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 13:13:26 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
Message-ID: <657FB70438B7D311AF320090279C18010614418F@EXCHMAIL>

Pinnacle's SQL Server Professional, February 2002 (Volume 8, Number 2), 
"Known Problems with IN/NOT IN()"
 
This may only apply to SQL Server and not Access, but it has bit me in 
the a$$ before. The use of IN and NOT IN for a value list is still ok to 
use, but not for subqueries.
 
I too, used it many times in Access, but then again, I also used the MAX 
statement through the QBE window, assuming that I was using it 
correctly, only to find out as I started using QA that I had been 
writing Max Statements incorrectly...but I digress...:S
 
If you get your hands on that issue, also check out "The Rogue Delete":
 
BEGIN TRANSACTION T1
SELECT COUNT (*) FROM TitleAuthor
DELETE TitleAuthor WHERE au_id IN ( SELECT au_id FROM Publishers)
SELECT COUNT (*) FROM TitleAuthor
ROLLBACK T1
 
This deletes all rows in the TitleAuthor table, even though there is no 
au_id on the Publishers table :)
 
Christopher Hawkins wrote:
 
>A known issue?  No kidding.  I've been using the "IN (SELECT..."
>statement for years and have never had a problem.
>
>Do you know of any MSDN or similar documentation of this issue?
>
>-Christopher-


From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Apr 21 16:30:30 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 17:30:30 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <655792989.20040421101920@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20040421213028.MYDD1832.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

The missing selection of a First-Day-Of-Week on the form could be handled by
setting a default value.

For myself, I would probably apply the suggestion of Stuart, but I realize
that static functions may fly above the head of the average user.

========The static function isn't necessary -- it works fine without it. The
open form first problem is resolved by setting a default for the report.
That's what I plan to do. 

Susan H. 



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Apr 21 17:16:47 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 15:16:47 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312738@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Susan, 

LOL
*Access* flies over the head of the average user!  Why should static
functions make sense to them?

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 1:31 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


The missing selection of a First-Day-Of-Week on the form could be
handled by setting a default value.

For myself, I would probably apply the suggestion of Stuart, but I
realize that static functions may fly above the head of the average
user.

========The static function isn't necessary -- it works fine without it.
The open form first problem is resolved by setting a default for the
report. That's what I plan to do. 

Susan H. 

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Apr 21 18:57:29 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 19:57:29 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312738@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <20040421235727.EEVD1714.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

My aim, as always is to make things work with the most normal tools I can --
because mostly, I write to the average user. Now, I can use other stuff as
long as I'm very explicit. Why? Because it's a personal challenge I guess.
;)   

Susan H. 

Susan, 

LOL
*Access* flies over the head of the average user!  Why should static
functions make sense to them?

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 1:31 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


The missing selection of a First-Day-Of-Week on the form could be
handled by setting a default value.

For myself, I would probably apply the suggestion of Stuart, but I
realize that static functions may fly above the head of the average
user.

========The static function isn't necessary -- it works fine without it.
The open form first problem is resolved by setting a default for the
report. That's what I plan to do. 

Susan H. 

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Wed Apr 21 21:10:53 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 19:10:53 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Hey John Colby Application Checklist
Message-ID: <000a01c4280f$0db9d700$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

In San Diego at the conference you spoke about some kind of checklist you
were working on to set options for the application.

 

 

Did that go anywhere? Is it publicly available?

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

 



From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr 22 01:27:18 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 08:27:18 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040421235727.EEVD1714.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <20040421235727.EEVD1714.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <34826778.20040422082718@cactus.dk>

Hi Susan

Personal challenge? You are on a mission!

/gustav

> My aim, as always is to make things work with the most normal tools I can --
> because mostly, I write to the average user. Now, I can use other stuff as
> long as I'm very explicit. Why? Because it's a personal challenge I guess.
> ;)   

> Susan H. 

> Susan, 

> LOL
> *Access* flies over the head of the average user!  Why should static
> functions make sense to them?

> Charlotte Foust

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 1:31 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


> The missing selection of a First-Day-Of-Week on the form could be
> handled by setting a default value.

> For myself, I would probably apply the suggestion of Stuart, but I
> realize that static functions may fly above the head of the average
> user.

> ========The static function isn't necessary -- it works fine without it.
> The open form first problem is resolved by setting a default for the
> report. That's what I plan to do. 

> Susan H. 



From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr 22 02:00:18 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 09:00:18 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
In-Reply-To: <657FB70438B7D311AF320090279C18010614418F@EXCHMAIL>
References: <657FB70438B7D311AF320090279C18010614418F@EXCHMAIL>
Message-ID: <322806795.20040422090018@cactus.dk>

Hi David

> Pinnacle's SQL Server Professional, February 2002 (Volume 8, Number 2),
> "Known Problems with IN/NOT IN()"

So which are those known problems?
Susan described one only.
 
> This may only apply to SQL Server and not Access, but it has bit me in 
> the a$$ before. The use of IN and NOT IN for a value list is still ok to 
> use, but not for subqueries.
 
> I too, used it many times in Access, but then again, I also used the MAX 
> statement through the QBE window, assuming that I was using it 
> correctly, only to find out as I started using QA that I had been 
> writing Max Statements incorrectly...but I digress...:S

How is MAX used incorrectly? I've never met any problems with MAX (not
that I know of).
 
> If you get your hands on that issue, also check out "The Rogue Delete":
 
> BEGIN TRANSACTION T1
> SELECT COUNT (*) FROM TitleAuthor
> DELETE TitleAuthor WHERE au_id IN ( SELECT au_id FROM Publishers)
> SELECT COUNT (*) FROM TitleAuthor
> ROLLBACK T1
 
> This deletes all rows in the TitleAuthor table, even though there is no 
> au_id on the Publishers table :)

I can't recognize this; it behaves very politely.
The syntax doesn't work in Jet SQL, but this does:

  DELETE FROM
    TitleAuthor
  WHERE
    au_id IN (SELECT au_id FROM Publishers)

and it deletes zero records if Publishers is empty. If au_id doesn't
exist as a field, Access asks for it as a parameter.
So this is exactly as expected.

Can you provide another example? Or are you talking about another SQL
engine?

/gustav
 
> Christopher Hawkins wrote:
 
>>A known issue?  No kidding.  I've been using the "IN (SELECT..."
>>statement for years and have never had a problem.
>>
>>Do you know of any MSDN or similar documentation of this issue?
>>
>>-Christopher-



From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Thu Apr 22 07:11:27 2004
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 14:11:27 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] VB6 DLL Help Required
Message-ID: <19983744.1082635887124.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>

To all,
 
Been playing with creating my own DLL?s today using Visual Basic 6 and I eventually created one to send an email using the vbSendMail.dll which works a treat.  But now I want to use the withevents part of the vbSendMail.dll which will return the following:
 
            Email Sent Ok 
            Email Failed
            Email Staus
 
Can I put a form inside a dll or do I somehow have to return the appropriate message to the calling application, if so how will I do this, has anyone any ideas on this?
 
Paul Hartland
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr 22 07:32:42 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 08:32:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] VB6 DLL Help Required
In-Reply-To: <19983744.1082635887124.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPCEOKHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

You must use a class to host withevents.  Dim WithEvents the variable that
references the dll.  Then create the event stubs in the class.  That's the
gist of it.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 8:11 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] VB6 DLL Help Required


To all,

Been playing with creating my own DLL?s today using Visual Basic 6 and I
eventually created one to send an email using the vbSendMail.dll which works
a treat.  But now I want to use the withevents part of the vbSendMail.dll
which will return the following:

            Email Sent Ok
            Email Failed
            Email Staus

Can I put a form inside a dll or do I somehow have to return the appropriate
message to the calling application, if so how will I do this, has anyone any
ideas on this?

Paul Hartland
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Apr 22 08:15:14 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 09:15:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB95@nnse14.nns.com>

We have a simple paper form that is used for data collection.  For purposes
of simplistic data entry, I would like to create an Access form that mimics
the actual paper form.  The underlying tables, however, are fully normalized
including dependencies.  The dependent fields are scattered throughout the
existing paper form.  Can I create a single bound form (subforms are ok)
under these circumstances?  If so, how?  The examples that I have run across
usually use multiple forms and pass the foreign keys.

I can do this going unbound, but I'd rather not.



Mark


From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Apr 22 08:29:36 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 09:29:36 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB96@nnse14.nns.com>

We have a simple paper form that is used for data collection.  For purposes
of simplistic data entry, I would like to create an Access form that mimics
the actual paper form.  The underlying tables, however, are fully normalized
including dependencies.  The dependent fields are scattered throughout the
existing paper form.  Can I create a single bound form (subforms are ok)
under these circumstances?  If so, how?  The examples that I have run across
usually use multiple forms and pass the foreign keys.

I can do this going unbound, but I'd rather not.



Mark


From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Apr 22 08:52:21 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 06:52:21 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database
References: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB95@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <005901c42871$093dd840$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Mark:

Can  you base the form on a query which joins all of the tables?  Or would
it be too many tables.  IIRC there's some limit of the number of tables in a
query after which it's not updateable.

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 6:15 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database


> We have a simple paper form that is used for data collection.  For
purposes
> of simplistic data entry, I would like to create an Access form that
mimics
> the actual paper form.  The underlying tables, however, are fully
normalized
> including dependencies.  The dependent fields are scattered throughout the
> existing paper form.  Can I create a single bound form (subforms are ok)
> under these circumstances?  If so, how?  The examples that I have run
across
> usually use multiple forms and pass the foreign keys.
>
> I can do this going unbound, but I'd rather not.
>
>
>
> Mark
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From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Thu Apr 22 09:02:35 2004
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 09:02:35 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Prevent Duplicates
Message-ID: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D632@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>

I need a way to check if a vendor number is a duplicate entry. On the
AfterUpdate of VenNumber I placed the below code, but it produces an error
about not finding the Automation Object and gives the entry I made in the
VenNumber field. VenNumber is a text field - do I have the quotes or
parenthesis wrong?

Virginia

************************
 If Not IsNull(VenNumber) Then
    If DCount("VenNumber", "tbl_Vendor", "VenNumber = " & [VenNumber]) > 0
Then   
        MsgBox "You have entered a Vendor Number that already exists"
        VenNumber.SetFocus
        VenNumber.Undo
End If
    End If


From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Apr 22 09:13:37 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 10:13:37 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB97@nnse14.nns.com>

11 tables...maximum of 2 levels of dependencies.  But, forgive all these
newbie questions, if I use a query, how do I populate the foreign keys?



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 9:52 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database


Mark:

Can  you base the form on a query which joins all of the tables?  Or would
it be too many tables.  IIRC there's some limit of the number of tables in a
query after which it's not updateable.

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 6:15 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database


> We have a simple paper form that is used for data collection.  For
purposes
> of simplistic data entry, I would like to create an Access form that
mimics
> the actual paper form.  The underlying tables, however, are fully
normalized
> including dependencies.  The dependent fields are scattered throughout the
> existing paper form.  Can I create a single bound form (subforms are ok)
> under these circumstances?  If so, how?  The examples that I have run
across
> usually use multiple forms and pass the foreign keys.
>
> I can do this going unbound, but I'd rather not.
>
>
>
> Mark
> -- 
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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Thu Apr 22 09:27:30 2004
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 16:27:30 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] Prevent Duplicates
Message-ID: <13468022.1082644050810.JavaMail.www@wwinf3002>

Virginia,
I think as your processing this on the AfterUpdate event you need to change the line to read
If DCount("VenNumber", "tbl_Vendor", "VenNumber = " & [VenNumber]) > 1
Paul





Message date : Apr 22 2004, 03:07 PM
>From : "Hollis,Virginia" 
To : "'accessD at databaseadvisors.com'" 
Copy to : 
Subject : [AccessD] Prevent Duplicates
I need a way to check if a vendor number is a duplicate entry. On the
AfterUpdate of VenNumber I placed the below code, but it produces an error
about not finding the Automation Object and gives the entry I made in the
VenNumber field. VenNumber is a text field - do I have the quotes or
parenthesis wrong?

Virginia

************************
If Not IsNull(VenNumber) Then
If DCount("VenNumber", "tbl_Vendor", "VenNumber = " & [VenNumber]) > 0
Then 
MsgBox "You have entered a Vendor Number that already exists"
VenNumber.SetFocus
VenNumber.Undo
End If
End If
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 22 09:38:19 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 10:38:19 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database
In-Reply-To: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB97@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <20040422143818.OLKR1714.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

You add them to the query, even though you don't need them in the form --
and 11 tables can still be updateable -- depends on the relationships
between the tables. 

Susan H. 

11 tables...maximum of 2 levels of dependencies.  But, forgive all these
newbie questions, if I use a query, how do I populate the foreign keys?



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 22 09:39:08 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 10:39:08 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <34826778.20040422082718@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20040422143907.OLYV1714.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Personal challenges can be very distracting. :) 

Susan H. 

Hi Susan

Personal challenge? You are on a mission!

/gustav




From Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com  Thu Apr 22 09:46:23 2004
From: Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com (Pickering, Stephen)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 09:46:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Prevent Duplicates
Message-ID: <CF0EA31794DDD611ADDC00065B88640C039A2F91@s98027.psd.caremark.int>

Virginia,

I would set this in the properties of the field, not validate on a form,
unless I had some compelling reason for allowing duplicates via some other
process.

If you still want to validate in the form, I would put your code in the
BeforeUpdate event, not the AfterUpdate, and yes, you need the quotes.

I would also change my control names from being the same as the field
names.  "ctlVenNumber" instead of "VenNumber" for the text box, for
example.

************************
 If Not IsNull(Me.ctlVenNumber) Then
    If DCount("VenNumber", "tbl_Vendor", "VenNumber = '" & me.ctlVenNumber
& "'" & ) > 0 Then   
    	MsgBox "You have entered a Vendor Number that already exists"
      Me.ctlVenNumber.SetFocus
      Cancel = True
    End If
 End If
************************

HTH,

Steve

-----Virginia Hollis' Original Message-----

I need a way to check if a vendor number is a duplicate entry. On the
AfterUpdate of VenNumber I placed the below code, but it produces an error
about not finding the Automation Object and gives the entry I made in the
VenNumber field. VenNumber is a text field - do I have the quotes or
parenthesis wrong?

Virginia

************************
 If Not IsNull(VenNumber) Then
    If DCount("VenNumber", "tbl_Vendor", "VenNumber = " & [VenNumber]) > 0
Then   
        MsgBox "You have entered a Vendor Number that already exists"
        VenNumber.SetFocus
        VenNumber.Undo
End If
    End If
-- 


From Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com  Thu Apr 22 09:49:46 2004
From: Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com (Pickering, Stephen)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 09:49:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Prevent Duplicates
Message-ID: <CF0EA31794DDD611ADDC00065B88640C039A2F92@s98027.psd.caremark.int>

Oops, just read Paul's post.  Missed the number.  Paul is right on.

************************
 If Not IsNull(Me.ctlVenNumber) Then
    If DCount("VenNumber", "tbl_Vendor", "VenNumber = '" & me.ctlVenNumber
& "'" & ) > 1 Then   
    	MsgBox "You have entered a Vendor Number that already exists"
      Me.ctlVenNumber.SetFocus
      Cancel = True
    End If
 End If
************************

Steve

-----Stephen Pickering's Original Message-----

Virginia,

I would set this in the properties of the field, not validate on a form,
unless I had some compelling reason for allowing duplicates via some other
process.

If you still want to validate in the form, I would put your code in the
BeforeUpdate event, not the AfterUpdate, and yes, you need the quotes.

I would also change my control names from being the same as the field
names.  "ctlVenNumber" instead of "VenNumber" for the text box, for
example.

************************
 If Not IsNull(Me.ctlVenNumber) Then
    If DCount("VenNumber", "tbl_Vendor", "VenNumber = '" & me.ctlVenNumber
& "'" & ) > 0 Then   
    	MsgBox "You have entered a Vendor Number that already exists"
      Me.ctlVenNumber.SetFocus
      Cancel = True
    End If
 End If
************************

HTH,

Steve

-----Virginia Hollis' Original Message-----

I need a way to check if a vendor number is a duplicate entry. On the
AfterUpdate of VenNumber I placed the below code, but it produces an error
about not finding the Automation Object and gives the entry I made in the
VenNumber field. VenNumber is a text field - do I have the quotes or
parenthesis wrong?

Virginia

************************
 If Not IsNull(VenNumber) Then
    If DCount("VenNumber", "tbl_Vendor", "VenNumber = " & [VenNumber]) > 0
Then   
        MsgBox "You have entered a Vendor Number that already exists"
        VenNumber.SetFocus
        VenNumber.Undo
End If
    End If
-- 


From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Thu Apr 22 09:56:27 2004
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 16:56:27 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] Prevent Duplicates
Message-ID: <31798765.1082645787203.JavaMail.www@wwinf3002>

oh well, we got there between us in the end....





Message date : Apr 22 2004, 03:51 PM
>From : "Pickering, Stephen" 
To : "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
Copy to : 
Subject : RE: [AccessD] Prevent Duplicates
Oops, just read Paul's post. Missed the number. Paul is right on.

************************
If Not IsNull(Me.ctlVenNumber) Then
If DCount("VenNumber", "tbl_Vendor", "VenNumber = '" & me.ctlVenNumber
& "'" & ) > 1 Then 
MsgBox "You have entered a Vendor Number that already exists"
Me.ctlVenNumber.SetFocus
Cancel = True
End If
End If
************************

Steve

-----Stephen Pickering's Original Message-----

Virginia,

I would set this in the properties of the field, not validate on a form,
unless I had some compelling reason for allowing duplicates via some other
process.

If you still want to validate in the form, I would put your code in the
BeforeUpdate event, not the AfterUpdate, and yes, you need the quotes.

I would also change my control names from being the same as the field
names. "ctlVenNumber" instead of "VenNumber" for the text box, for
example.

************************
If Not IsNull(Me.ctlVenNumber) Then
If DCount("VenNumber", "tbl_Vendor", "VenNumber = '" & me.ctlVenNumber
& "'" & ) > 0 Then 
MsgBox "You have entered a Vendor Number that already exists"
Me.ctlVenNumber.SetFocus
Cancel = True
End If
End If
************************

HTH,

Steve

-----Virginia Hollis' Original Message-----

I need a way to check if a vendor number is a duplicate entry. On the
AfterUpdate of VenNumber I placed the below code, but it produces an error
about not finding the Automation Object and gives the entry I made in the
VenNumber field. VenNumber is a text field - do I have the quotes or
parenthesis wrong?

Virginia

************************
If Not IsNull(VenNumber) Then
If DCount("VenNumber", "tbl_Vendor", "VenNumber = " & [VenNumber]) > 0
Then 
MsgBox "You have entered a Vendor Number that already exists"
VenNumber.SetFocus
VenNumber.Undo
End If
End If
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Apr 22 10:06:59 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 08:06:59 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Prevent Duplicates
References: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D632@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <007701c4287b$763527a0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Virginia:

Does VenNumber contain a valid numeric value at that point?

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hollis,Virginia" <HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com>
To: <accessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 7:02 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Prevent Duplicates


> I need a way to check if a vendor number is a duplicate entry. On the
> AfterUpdate of VenNumber I placed the below code, but it produces an error
> about not finding the Automation Object and gives the entry I made in the
> VenNumber field. VenNumber is a text field - do I have the quotes or
> parenthesis wrong?
>
> Virginia
>
> ************************
>  If Not IsNull(VenNumber) Then
>     If DCount("VenNumber", "tbl_Vendor", "VenNumber = " & [VenNumber]) > 0
> Then
>         MsgBox "You have entered a Vendor Number that already exists"
>         VenNumber.SetFocus
>         VenNumber.Undo
> End If
>     End If
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From serbach at new.rr.com  Thu Apr 22 10:06:18 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 10:06:18 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Shell 'discoveries'
Message-ID: <20040422100618.1373059489.serbach@new.rr.com>

Dear Group,

In debugging the custom EDI application I'm writing for a client of mine, I "discovered" a thing or two about using the Shell command to run a DOS batch file.

The purpose of using the DOS batch file is to start an FTP session and upload a bunch of files to the EDI mailbox. Then, when the batch file is finished, move the files that were uploaded into an archive folder on the server.

I had tested the batch file from a command prompt and it works just dandy. The EDI documents show up as having been uploaded successfully. However when I used the Shell command in my application I wouldn't see any document names uploaded. Then I'd get the annoying e-mail the next day from the EDI service provider saying that the expected documents weren't received.

I finally figured out the problem: Access doesn't wait for the batch file to finish. The Shell command just launches the external program, whatever it is, and goes on to the next task. In my case it was moving the EDI documents into an archive folder. Well, Access whisked those files out of the FTP folder so fast that by the time the FTP login was complete (user name, password, and account name) the files were no longer available for uploading. The FTP session didn't fail, as such, there just wasn't anything to send.

So, I added a MsgBox asking the user to verify that the DOS session had ended before going on to archive the EDI files. Problem solved.

Sorry if this is tediously obvious, but I haven't ever run a batch file from Access and I have nobody to bounce this stuff off of (nobody off of whom to bounce this stuff?).

Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Apr 22 10:09:25 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 08:09:25 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database
References: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB97@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <008501c4287b$cd27e9d0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Mark:

I think the FKs need to be inserted through code.  At least that's how I
always did it.

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 7:13 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database


> 11 tables...maximum of 2 levels of dependencies.  But, forgive all these
> newbie questions, if I use a query, how do I populate the foreign keys?
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 9:52 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database
>
>
> Mark:
>
> Can  you base the form on a query which joins all of the tables?  Or would
> it be too many tables.  IIRC there's some limit of the number of tables in
a
> query after which it's not updateable.
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
> To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 6:15 AM
> Subject: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database
>
>
> > We have a simple paper form that is used for data collection.  For
> purposes
> > of simplistic data entry, I would like to create an Access form that
> mimics
> > the actual paper form.  The underlying tables, however, are fully
> normalized
> > including dependencies.  The dependent fields are scattered throughout
the
> > existing paper form.  Can I create a single bound form (subforms are ok)
> > under these circumstances?  If so, how?  The examples that I have run
> across
> > usually use multiple forms and pass the foreign keys.
> >
> > I can do this going unbound, but I'd rather not.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mark
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From demulling at centurytel.net  Thu Apr 22 10:51:51 2004
From: demulling at centurytel.net (Demulling Family)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 10:51:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Shell 'discoveries'
In-Reply-To: <20040422100618.1373059489.serbach@new.rr.com>
References: <20040422100618.1373059489.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <4087EA17.9080006@centurytel.net>

Steven W. Erbach wrote:

>Dear Group,
>
>In debugging the custom EDI application I'm writing for a client of mine, I "discovered" a thing or two about using the Shell command to run a DOS batch file.
>
>The purpose of using the DOS batch file is to start an FTP session and upload a bunch of files to the EDI mailbox. Then, when the batch file is finished, move the files that were uploaded into an archive folder on the server.
>
>I had tested the batch file from a command prompt and it works just dandy. The EDI documents show up as having been uploaded successfully. However when I used the Shell command in my application I wouldn't see any document names uploaded. Then I'd get the annoying e-mail the next day from the EDI service provider saying that the expected documents weren't received.
>
>I finally figured out the problem: Access doesn't wait for the batch file to finish. The Shell command just launches the external program, whatever it is, and goes on to the next task. In my case it was moving the EDI documents into an archive folder. Well, Access whisked those files out of the FTP folder so fast that by the time the FTP login was complete (user name, password, and account name) the files were no longer available for uploading. The FTP session didn't fail, as such, there just wasn't anything to send.
>
>So, I added a MsgBox asking the user to verify that the DOS session had ended before going on to archive the EDI files. Problem solved.
>
>Sorry if this is tediously obvious, but I haven't ever run a batch file from Access and I have nobody to bounce this stuff off of (nobody off of whom to bounce this stuff?).
>
>Regards,
> 
>Steve Erbach
>Scientific Marketing
>Neenah, WI
>920-969-0504
> 
>"Congress is as trustworthy with money as a crack addict who is experimenting with heroin." - Dave Barry
> 
>"Giving money and power to the government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys." - P. J. O'Rourke
> 
>"Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for." - Will Rogers
> 
>"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly American criminal class except Congress." - Mark Twain
>
>  
>
Steve,

On Dev's site there is code for a Shell Wait function.  You can you this 
to have access wait until the ftping is done.  I would include some code 
but am at home today helping my wife cook for my daugther's festival of 
culture and grandparent's night at school.



From Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com  Thu Apr 22 10:52:19 2004
From: Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com (Pickering, Stephen)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 10:52:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Prevent Duplicates
Message-ID: <CF0EA31794DDD611ADDC00065B88640C039A2F93@s98027.psd.caremark.int>

Here's to putting our heads together!

:^)

Steve

-----Paul Hartland's Original Message-----

oh well, we got there between us in the end....


From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Apr 22 10:56:33 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 11:56:33 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB98@nnse14.nns.com>

Susan,

OK, I created the query... with all the fields.  Next, I tried to do a
simple autoform to see if it would work...NO controls showed up on the
form:(  In design view the controls exist, but in form view they do not.
I'm open for suggestions as to why...



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 10:38 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database


You add them to the query, even though you don't need them in the form --
and 11 tables can still be updateable -- depends on the relationships
between the tables. 

Susan H. 

11 tables...maximum of 2 levels of dependencies.  But, forgive all these
newbie questions, if I use a query, how do I populate the foreign keys?

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From Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com  Thu Apr 22 11:23:05 2004
From: Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com (Pickering, Stephen)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 11:23:05 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database
Message-ID: <CF0EA31794DDD611ADDC00065B88640C039A2F94@s98027.psd.caremark.int>

PMFJI.

Is the query updateable?  That's the first thing I'd check.  It should be
updateable as long as you include the Primary Key of each table in the
query.

Steve

-----Mark S. Mitsules' Original Message-----

Susan,

OK, I created the query... with all the fields.  Next, I tried to do a
simple autoform to see if it would work...NO controls showed up on the
form:(  In design view the controls exist, but in form view they do not.
I'm open for suggestions as to why...



Mark


From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 22 11:21:52 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 12:21:52 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database
In-Reply-To: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB98@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <20040422162151.WAFQ1728.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Check out the query's datasheet -- is there a new row? If not, it isn't an
updateable setup. 

Susan H. 

Susan,

OK, I created the query... with all the fields.  Next, I tried to do a
simple autoform to see if it would work...NO controls showed up on the
form:(  In design view the controls exist, but in form view they do not.
I'm open for suggestions as to why...



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 10:38 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database


You add them to the query, even though you don't need them in the form --
and 11 tables can still be updateable -- depends on the relationships
between the tables. 

Susan H. 

11 tables...maximum of 2 levels of dependencies.  But, forgive all these
newbie questions, if I use a query, how do I populate the foreign keys?

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr 22 11:24:07 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 18:24:07 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Shell 'discoveries'
In-Reply-To: <20040422100618.1373059489.serbach@new.rr.com>
References: <20040422100618.1373059489.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <9336635348.20040422182407@cactus.dk>

Hi Steven

Several will for sure post you the code variants for "ShellAndWait",
"ShellWait" etc. which will solve your immediate problem.

However, as this sounds as a serious application, I would strongly
recommend you to spend the small money for a licens to 3D-FTP.

This is an excellent multi-threaded FTP client which can be fully
automated and controlled from within your app. I used it for a client
who regularly uploads over 1000 files for a web site and it has never
failed. In addition, the user (operator) has a nice status window
visually indicating progress of the upload.

I have no "ready-to-run" code as this will be very much individual,
but if you wish, I can rip off the essential procedures which I'm sure
you (as a skilled programmer) will be able to modify as to your needs.

/gustav


> Dear Group,

> In debugging the custom EDI application I'm writing for a client of mine, I "discovered" a thing or two about using the Shell command to run a DOS batch file.

> The purpose of using the DOS batch file is to start an FTP session and upload a bunch of files to the EDI mailbox. Then, when the batch file is finished, move the files that were uploaded into an
> archive folder on the server.

> I had tested the batch file from a command prompt and it works just dandy. The EDI documents show up as having been uploaded successfully. However when I used the Shell command in my application I
> wouldn't see any document names uploaded. Then I'd get the annoying e-mail the next day from the EDI service provider saying that the expected documents weren't received.

> I finally figured out the problem: Access doesn't wait for the batch file to finish. The Shell command just launches the external program, whatever it is, and goes on to the next task. In my case
> it was moving the EDI documents into an archive folder. Well, Access whisked those files out of the FTP folder so fast that by the time the FTP login was complete (user name, password, and account
> name) the files were no longer available for uploading. The FTP session didn't fail, as such, there just wasn't anything to send.

> So, I added a MsgBox asking the user to verify that the DOS session had ended before going on to archive the EDI files. Problem solved.

> Sorry if this is tediously obvious, but I haven't ever run a batch file from Access and I have nobody to bounce this stuff off of (nobody off of whom to bounce this stuff?).



From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Apr 22 11:29:55 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 17:29:55 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Shell 'discoveries'
In-Reply-To: <20040422100618.1373059489.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <001501c42887$0b9b2730$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

A suggestion Steven. How about creating a file before you Shell, and making
the last line of the batch file delete the file. Then you can Shell followed
by a Do While which checks if the file exists and comes out when it doesn't.
You'd also need a DoEvents inside the loop so it lets the other processing
get a look in. This way you wouldn't need to ask the user if the process had
finished.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Steven W. Erbach
> Sent: 22 April 2004 16:06
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Shell 'discoveries'
> 
> 
> Dear Group,
> 
> In debugging the custom EDI application I'm writing for a 
> client of mine, I "discovered" a thing or two about using the 
> Shell command to run a DOS batch file.
> 
> The purpose of using the DOS batch file is to start an FTP 
> session and upload a bunch of files to the EDI mailbox. Then, 
> when the batch file is finished, move the files that were 
> uploaded into an archive folder on the server.
> 
> I had tested the batch file from a command prompt and it 
> works just dandy. The EDI documents show up as having been 
> uploaded successfully. However when I used the Shell command 
> in my application I wouldn't see any document names uploaded. 
> Then I'd get the annoying e-mail the next day from the EDI 
> service provider saying that the expected documents weren't received.
> 
> I finally figured out the problem: Access doesn't wait for 
> the batch file to finish. The Shell command just launches the 
> external program, whatever it is, and goes on to the next 
> task. In my case it was moving the EDI documents into an 
> archive folder. Well, Access whisked those files out of the 
> FTP folder so fast that by the time the FTP login was 
> complete (user name, password, and account name) the files 
> were no longer available for uploading. The FTP session 
> didn't fail, as such, there just wasn't anything to send.
> 
> So, I added a MsgBox asking the user to verify that the DOS 
> session had ended before going on to archive the EDI files. 
> Problem solved.
> 
> Sorry if this is tediously obvious, but I haven't ever run a 
> batch file from Access and I have nobody to bounce this stuff 
> off of (nobody off of whom to bounce this stuff?).
> 
> Regards,
>  
> Steve Erbach
> Scientific Marketing
> Neenah, WI
> 920-969-0504
>  
> "Congress is as trustworthy with money as a crack addict who 
> is experimenting with heroin." - Dave Barry
>  
> "Giving money and power to the government is like giving 
> whiskey and car keys to teenage boys." - P. J. O'Rourke
>  
> "Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're 
> paying for." - Will Rogers
>  
> "It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there 
> is no distinctly American criminal class except Congress." - 
> Mark Twain
> 
> -- 
> _______________________________________________
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd
> Website: 
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> 



From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Apr 22 11:38:26 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 12:38:26 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB9A@nnse14.nns.com>

Nope it's not updateable...  Anyone want to look at a screenshot of the
relationships to see if they could tell why?  I guess what I'm asking is,
what is the limiting factor of a recordset being updatable or not?  I'm
guessing that it has to do with the 2 levels of dependency.  Could that be
it?



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 12:22 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database


Check out the query's datasheet -- is there a new row? If not, it isn't an
updateable setup. 

Susan H. 

Susan,

OK, I created the query... with all the fields.  Next, I tried to do a
simple autoform to see if it would work...NO controls showed up on the
form:(  In design view the controls exist, but in form view they do not.
I'm open for suggestions as to why...



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 10:38 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database


You add them to the query, even though you don't need them in the form --
and 11 tables can still be updateable -- depends on the relationships
between the tables. 

Susan H. 

11 tables...maximum of 2 levels of dependencies.  But, forgive all these
newbie questions, if I use a query, how do I populate the foreign keys?

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr 22 11:39:08 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 18:39:08 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Shell 'discoveries'
In-Reply-To: <20040422100618.1373059489.serbach@new.rr.com>
References: <20040422100618.1373059489.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <9437536414.20040422183908@cactus.dk>

Hi Steven

Here's an example:

<code>

Public Function ShellExecute( _
  ByVal strPathname As String, _
  Optional lngAppWinStyle As Long = vbHide) _
  As Boolean

' Start other application and wait for it to finish.

' lngAppWinStyle:
'
' vbHide              0
' vbNormalFocus       1
' vbMinimizedFocus    2
' vbMaximizedFocus    3
' vbNormalNoFocus     4
' vbMinimizedNoFocus  6
  
  Const cbInheritHandles  As Long = 1
  Dim proc      As PROCESS_INFORMATION
  Dim Start     As STARTUPINFO
  Dim lngReturn As Long
  
  On Error GoTo Err_ShellExecute
  
  ' Initialize the STARTUPINFO structure:
  With Start
    .cb = Len(Start)
    .dwFlags = STARTF_USESHOWWINDOW
    .wShowWindow = lngAppWinStyle
  End With
  
  ' Load the shelled application.
  lngReturn = CreateProcessA(0, strPathname, 0, 0, cbInheritHandles, NORMAL_PRIORITY_CLASS, 0, 0, Start, proc)
  ' Wait for the shelled application to finish.
  lngReturn = WaitForSingleObject(proc.hProcess, INFINITE)
  With proc
    lngReturn = WaitForSingleObject(.hProcess, INFINITE)
    ' Close both Process and Thread to prevent memory leak.
    lngReturn = CloseHandle(.hProcess) And CloseHandle(.hThread)
  End With
  
  ShellExecute = True
  
Exit_ShellExecute:
  Exit Function

Err_ShellExecute:
  MsgBox "Shell Error: " & Err.Number & ". " & Err.Description, vbCritical, Err.Source
  Resume Exit_ShellExecute

End Function

</code>

Watch for line breaks.

/gustav



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 22 11:53:51 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 12:53:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database
In-Reply-To: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB9A@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <20040422165350.YZPR1778.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Mark, you email address isn't showin gup in the message header. Send me a
private at ssharkins at bellsouth.net and I'll send you a copy of an article I
wrote about this. 

Susan H. 

Nope it's not updateable...  Anyone want to look at a screenshot of the
relationships to see if they could tell why?  I guess what I'm asking is,
what is the limiting factor of a recordset being updatable or not?  I'm
guessing that it has to do with the 2 levels of dependency.  Could that be
it?





From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Apr 22 11:54:23 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 12:54:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Shell 'discoveries'
In-Reply-To: <20040422100618.1373059489.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKMENCJAAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Steve,

  Besides the ShellWait function already mentioned, I would suggest a little
more control over the FTP process. Gustav mentioned a 3rd party control, but
Dev's site has a FTP class you can use for free.  Might want to go the
commercial route though if you want updates and support options.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Steven W.
Erbach
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 11:06 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Shell 'discoveries'


Dear Group,

In debugging the custom EDI application I'm writing for a client of mine, I
"discovered" a thing or two about using the Shell command to run a DOS batch
file.

The purpose of using the DOS batch file is to start an FTP session and
upload a bunch of files to the EDI mailbox. Then, when the batch file is
finished, move the files that were uploaded into an archive folder on the
server.

I had tested the batch file from a command prompt and it works just dandy.
The EDI documents show up as having been uploaded successfully. However when
I used the Shell command in my application I wouldn't see any document names
uploaded. Then I'd get the annoying e-mail the next day from the EDI service
provider saying that the expected documents weren't received.

I finally figured out the problem: Access doesn't wait for the batch file to
finish. The Shell command just launches the external program, whatever it
is, and goes on to the next task. In my case it was moving the EDI documents
into an archive folder. Well, Access whisked those files out of the FTP
folder so fast that by the time the FTP login was complete (user name,
password, and account name) the files were no longer available for
uploading. The FTP session didn't fail, as such, there just wasn't anything
to send.

So, I added a MsgBox asking the user to verify that the DOS session had
ended before going on to archive the EDI files. Problem solved.

Sorry if this is tediously obvious, but I haven't ever run a batch file from
Access and I have nobody to bounce this stuff off of (nobody off of whom to
bounce this stuff?).

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504

"Congress is as trustworthy with money as a crack addict who is
experimenting with heroin." - Dave Barry

"Giving money and power to the government is like giving whiskey and car
keys to teenage boys." - P. J. O'Rourke

"Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for." - Will
Rogers

"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly
American criminal class except Congress." - Mark Twain

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From Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com  Thu Apr 22 12:22:03 2004
From: Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com (Pickering, Stephen)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 12:22:03 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database
Message-ID: <CF0EA31794DDD611ADDC00065B88640C039A2F97@s98027.psd.caremark.int>

Mark,

Check to make sure that all of the Primary Keys for all of the tables are
included in the SELECT clause.

Steve

-----Mark S. Mitsules' Original Message-----

Nope it's not updateable...  Anyone want to look at a screenshot of the
relationships to see if they could tell why?  I guess what I'm asking is,
what is the limiting factor of a recordset being updatable or not?  I'm
guessing that it has to do with the 2 levels of dependency.  Could that be
it?



Mark


From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Apr 22 12:39:01 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 13:39:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB9B@nnse14.nns.com>

The light came on!  I started from scratch, building the query again, table
by table.  After each addition I checked the "updateable-ness";)  The
problem was caused by a single table that I SHOULD have added three times,
but hadn't.  It was a personnel table whose PK was used as a FK 3 times in
another table.  Access had automatically added the defined relationships.  I
needed to delete 2 of the 3 and add the table again to the query 2 more
times.  As soon as I fixed that oversight, the query worked.  Now I just
need to get a working form from all that.

Thanks,

Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Pickering, Stephen [mailto:Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 1:22 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database


Mark,

Check to make sure that all of the Primary Keys for all of the tables are
included in the SELECT clause.

Steve

-----Mark S. Mitsules' Original Message-----

Nope it's not updateable...  Anyone want to look at a screenshot of the
relationships to see if they could tell why?  I guess what I'm asking is,
what is the limiting factor of a recordset being updatable or not?  I'm
guessing that it has to do with the 2 levels of dependency.  Could that be
it?



Mark
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From pedro at plex.nl  Thu Apr 22 14:09:12 2004
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 21:09:12 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase
Message-ID: <006101c4289e$fa188030$f2c581d5@pedro>

Hello Group,

i have a code (thanks to Brett Barabash and Mark A Matte) that sets all characters in all tables to Lowercase.

What i also would like to see is each character at the beginning of a word (each word that is separated by a space) is set to Uppercase in all Tables by just one code.
Is this possible. Who can help me with this?

TIA

Pedro Janssen


From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Thu Apr 22 14:34:17 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 14:34:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227B06@main2.marlow.com>

StrConv("this is a test",vbProperCase)


results in:


This Is A Test

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 2:09 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase


Hello Group,

i have a code (thanks to Brett Barabash and Mark A Matte) that sets all
characters in all tables to Lowercase.

What i also would like to see is each character at the beginning of a word
(each word that is separated by a space) is set to Uppercase in all Tables
by just one code.
Is this possible. Who can help me with this?

TIA

Pedro Janssen
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From Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com  Thu Apr 22 14:45:15 2004
From: Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com (Pickering, Stephen)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 14:45:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase
Message-ID: <CF0EA31794DDD611ADDC00065B88640C039A2F99@s98027.psd.caremark.int>

Pedro,

StrConv("your string here", 3)

HTH,

Steve

-----Pedro Janssen's Original Message-----

Hello Group,

i have a code (thanks to Brett Barabash and Mark A Matte) that sets all
characters in all tables to Lowercase.

What i also would like to see is each character at the beginning of a word
(each word that is separated by a space) is set to Uppercase in all Tables
by just one code.
Is this possible. Who can help me with this?

TIA

Pedro Janssen
-- 


From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 22 14:47:30 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 15:47:30 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Prevent Duplicates
References: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D632@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <001401c428a2$a5fbeba0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

Virginia

...if you truly want to prevent duplicates, I'd just create an index on the
table field set to no duplicates allowed and code for an error ...much more
certain to catch dupes, requires less code, and far less processing.

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hollis,Virginia" <HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com>
To: <accessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 10:02 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Prevent Duplicates


> I need a way to check if a vendor number is a duplicate entry. On the
> AfterUpdate of VenNumber I placed the below code, but it produces an error
> about not finding the Automation Object and gives the entry I made in the
> VenNumber field. VenNumber is a text field - do I have the quotes or
> parenthesis wrong?
>
> Virginia
>
> ************************
>  If Not IsNull(VenNumber) Then
>     If DCount("VenNumber", "tbl_Vendor", "VenNumber = " & [VenNumber]) > 0
> Then
>         MsgBox "You have entered a Vendor Number that already exists"
>         VenNumber.SetFocus
>         VenNumber.Undo
> End If
>     End If
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From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 22 15:03:08 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 16:03:08 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Shell 'discoveries'
References: <20040422100618.1373059489.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <002301c428a4$d50b9470$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...why not do the ftp from within Access using the APIs ...if you'd like I
can send you a sample mdb that's worked round the clock for years now.

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven W. Erbach" <serbach at new.rr.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 11:06 AM
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Shell 'discoveries'


> Dear Group,
>
> In debugging the custom EDI application I'm writing for a client of mine,
I "discovered" a thing or two about using the Shell command to run a DOS
batch file.
>
> The purpose of using the DOS batch file is to start an FTP session and
upload a bunch of files to the EDI mailbox. Then, when the batch file is
finished, move the files that were uploaded into an archive folder on the
server.
>
> I had tested the batch file from a command prompt and it works just dandy.
The EDI documents show up as having been uploaded successfully. However when
I used the Shell command in my application I wouldn't see any document names
uploaded. Then I'd get the annoying e-mail the next day from the EDI service
provider saying that the expected documents weren't received.
>
> I finally figured out the problem: Access doesn't wait for the batch file
to finish. The Shell command just launches the external program, whatever it
is, and goes on to the next task. In my case it was moving the EDI documents
into an archive folder. Well, Access whisked those files out of the FTP
folder so fast that by the time the FTP login was complete (user name,
password, and account name) the files were no longer available for
uploading. The FTP session didn't fail, as such, there just wasn't anything
to send.
>
> So, I added a MsgBox asking the user to verify that the DOS session had
ended before going on to archive the EDI files. Problem solved.
>
> Sorry if this is tediously obvious, but I haven't ever run a batch file
from Access and I have nobody to bounce this stuff off of (nobody off of
whom to bounce this stuff?).
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve Erbach
> Scientific Marketing
> Neenah, WI
> 920-969-0504
>
> "Congress is as trustworthy with money as a crack addict who is
experimenting with heroin." - Dave Barry
>
> "Giving money and power to the government is like giving whiskey and car
keys to teenage boys." - P. J. O'Rourke
>
> "Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for." -
Will Rogers
>
> "It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no
distinctly American criminal class except Congress." - Mark Twain
>
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From my.lists at verizon.net  Thu Apr 22 15:15:10 2004
From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 13:15:10 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
In-Reply-To: <322806795.20040422090018@cactus.dk>
References: <657FB70438B7D311AF320090279C18010614418F@EXCHMAIL>
	<322806795.20040422090018@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <408827CE.7060601@verizon.net>

Gustav,
   David quoted an article for Sql Server in which this is 100% 
reproducable.  I think he posted it here because of the initial posts of 
problems where the IN clause or rather (NOT IN) was not behaving as 
expected.  for that manner I've also seen it do this, one major 
workaround is to explicitly point the inner quiery to that of the outer 
query. that way any possible errors will be trapped

SUCH as

  DELETE FROM
    TitleAuthor
  WHERE
    au_id IN (SELECT au_id FROM Publishers WHERE Publishers.au_id=TitleAuthor.au_id)


Gustav Brock said the following on 4/22/2004 12:00 AM:

>>Pinnacle's SQL Server Professional, February 2002 (Volume 8, Number 2),
>>"Known Problems with IN/NOT IN()"
>>    
>>
>I can't recognize this; it behaves very politely.
>The syntax doesn't work in Jet SQL, but this does:
>
>  DELETE FROM
>    TitleAuthor
>  WHERE
>    au_id IN (SELECT au_id FROM Publishers)
>
>and it deletes zero records if Publishers is empty. If au_id doesn't
>exist as a field, Access asks for it as a parameter.
>So this is exactly as expected.
>
>Can you provide another example? Or are you talking about another SQL
>engine?
>
>/gustav
> 
>  
>
-- 
-Francisco




From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Thu Apr 22 15:37:37 2004
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 21:37:37 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT SQL Question
References: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D632@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <002501c428a9$a77fa140$1b02a8c0@MARTINREID>

Tried the SQL Server list with this - no luck.


Given a one to many relationship is it possible to produce this output using
an SP without the use of cursors etc??

 INPUT TABLE 1

      1000
     IT

      1000
     Databases

      1000
     VMS

      1001
     Spreadsheets

      1001
     GenStat

      1002
     Aquatic systems

      1002
     Research




INPUT TABLE 2



      1000
     Smith

      1001
     Brown

      1002
     Foster




 OUTPUT REQUIRED

      1000
     Smith
     IT, Databases,VMS

      1001
     Brown
     Spreadsheets,GenStat

      1002
     Foster
     Aquatic Systems,Research




Martin




From mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com  Thu Apr 22 16:17:03 2004
From: mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com (Mark Whittinghill)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 16:17:03 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Dual Install 97 and 2000
Message-ID: <000b01c428af$28bab8d0$2201a8c0@PASCAL>

Hi all,

  I have 2000 on my machine, and would like to add 97.  Can I just install
97 then fix the hatten.ttf problem, or do I need to uninstall 2000 first,
install 97 then reinstall 2000?

Mark Whittinghill
Symphony Information Services
763-391-7400
mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com




From pedro at plex.nl  Thu Apr 22 14:29:20 2004
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 21:29:20 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Form Opening Time
References: <s085426f.095@cbc.ca>
Message-ID: <009101c428b3$b092e350$f2c581d5@pedro>

Hello Bryan,

can you give me some information about Jet's showplan in the registry.
What does it do?
I have a form that needs about 35 sec to open, So this could be a great
help.

Pedro Janssen



----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Form Opening Time


> OOPS.
>
> A2K SP3
>
> Bryan
>
> >>> Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca 20-Apr-04 3:18:04 PM >>>
> Access 2000 on Win 2K SP4 with Jet 4, SP8
>
> Bryan Carbonnell
> bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca
>
> >>> gustav at cactus.dk 20-Apr-04 3:04:25 PM >>>
> Hi Bryan
>
> Which version, please?
>
> /gustav
>
>
> > Can anyone explain, or give a possible idea why Turning Jet's
> SHOWPLAN
> > on in the registry, will make a form open in 1/3 of the time it took
> > prior to turning it on?
>
> > It now takes about 7 seconds to open, but before it was 22-24
> secords.
>
> > Any ideas? I had turned on SHOWPLAN to try and see if any of the
> > queries were causing the slowdown in opening.
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From pedro at plex.nl  Thu Apr 22 16:54:28 2004
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 23:54:28 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase
References: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227B06@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <00b601c428b4$8ca40400$f2c581d5@pedro>

Hello Drew,

how can i use this so that it sets all characters in all tables in a
database?

Pedro Janssen




----- Original Message -----
From: <DWUTKA at marlow.com>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 9:34 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase


> StrConv("this is a test",vbProperCase)
>
>
> results in:
>
>
> This Is A Test
>
> Drew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 2:09 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase
>
>
> Hello Group,
>
> i have a code (thanks to Brett Barabash and Mark A Matte) that sets all
> characters in all tables to Lowercase.
>
> What i also would like to see is each character at the beginning of a word
> (each word that is separated by a space) is set to Uppercase in all Tables
> by just one code.
> Is this possible. Who can help me with this?
>
> TIA
>
> Pedro Janssen
> --
> _______________________________________________
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>




From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Thu Apr 22 17:07:52 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 18:07:52 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Form Opening Time
In-Reply-To: <009101c428b3$b092e350$f2c581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <408809F8.16242.17B1F2@localhost>

On 22 Apr 2004 at 21:29, Pedro Janssen wrote:

> can you give me some information about Jet's showplan in the registry.
> What does it do? I have a form that needs about 35 sec to open, So
> this could be a great help.

Pedro,

There are others that can explain it better than I can, folks like 
Paul Litwin, Ken Getz, and Mike Gunderloy. You can find Chapter 15: 
Application Optimization of  ADH2K2 at
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-
us/dnacbk02/html/odc_4009c15.asp

Watch for wrap.

Basically what it does is dumps to a plain text file how the query is 
"run" and you can look for places that the whole table is being 
looked at, or missng indexes....

My problem turned out to not be quite that difficult.

I had an A2K FE and an A97 BE. They don't play well together. :(

My load time in now down to less than 1/2 a second from 20-25 
seconds. It took me 2 days to figure that one out :(

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
I don't approve of political jokes. I've seen too many of them get 
elected.




From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Thu Apr 22 17:32:46 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 17:32:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227B08@main2.marlow.com>

How's this?

Function SetAllDataToProperCase()
Dim tbldef As TableDef
Dim strSQL As String
Dim rs As Recordset
Dim i As Long
Dim FieldCheck As Boolean
For Each tbldef In CurrentDb.TableDefs
    If Left(tbldef.Name, 4) <> "MSys" Then
        'Set a boolean to make sure we have fields to actually update
        FieldCheck = False
        strSQL = "UPDATE " & tbldef.Name & " SET "
        Set rs = CurrentDb.OpenRecordset(tbldef.Name, dbOpenTable)
        For i = 0 To rs.Fields.Count - 1
            If rs.Fields(i).Type = 10 Or rs.Fields(i).Type = 12 Then
                'we have a valid field
                FieldCheck = True
                strSQL = strSQL & "[" & rs.Fields(i).Name & "]=StrConv([" &
rs.Fields(i).Name & "],3), "
            End If
        Next i
        If FieldCheck Then
            strSQL = Left(strSQL, Len(strSQL) - 2)
            CurrentDb.Execute strSQL
        End If
    End If
Next
MsgBox "Done"
End Function

That will change ALL text data in your database (text and memo fields)

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 4:54 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase


Hello Drew,

how can i use this so that it sets all characters in all tables in a
database?

Pedro Janssen




----- Original Message -----
From: <DWUTKA at marlow.com>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 9:34 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase


> StrConv("this is a test",vbProperCase)
>
>
> results in:
>
>
> This Is A Test
>
> Drew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 2:09 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase
>
>
> Hello Group,
>
> i have a code (thanks to Brett Barabash and Mark A Matte) that sets all
> characters in all tables to Lowercase.
>
> What i also would like to see is each character at the beginning of a word
> (each word that is separated by a space) is set to Uppercase in all Tables
> by just one code.
> Is this possible. Who can help me with this?
>
> TIA
>
> Pedro Janssen
> --
> _______________________________________________
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
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> --
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>
>


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Apr 22 17:46:38 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 15:46:38 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Dual Install 97 and 2000
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8631273E@infoserver01.infostat.local>

You can install 97 after.  Rename hatten.ttf before you try it, and you
may have to reinstall 2000 afterward, retaining 97, to get the file type
associations right.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Whittinghill [mailto:mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 1:17 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Dual Install 97 and 2000


Hi all,

  I have 2000 on my machine, and would like to add 97.  Can I just
install 97 then fix the hatten.ttf problem, or do I need to uninstall
2000 first, install 97 then reinstall 2000?

Mark Whittinghill
Symphony Information Services
763-391-7400
mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com


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From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Thu Apr 22 18:22:04 2004
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 09:22:04 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Mail Merge form letters
Message-ID: <OFE83F7E30.44DB6D5B-ONCA256E7E.007FBDEE@agric.nsw.gov.au>


Hi,

I have just tried searching the archive for info and have some but could
use a few hints.

I have just written a DB which keeps track of Exhibited animals in our
state. The client needs tio be able to send licences to exhibit to each of
his customers as they apply and are accepted or rejected. I have set up a
mail merge template in word which gets data from the relevant query. Each
copy of the document will be of varying content based on wether conditions
are imposed or not.

I have never done this before and so need some advise from those who have.

How do I set this up to print a copy of the letter for every record in a
range of records? if they have 200 new approvals I need to generate a
letter for each of the approvals in a range entered. What is the best way
to put this into the database and allow a user entered parameter for the
range?

All help appreciated

Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Agriculture
Orange



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From KIsmert at TexasSystems.com  Thu Apr 22 18:45:45 2004
From: KIsmert at TexasSystems.com (Ken Ismert)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 18:45:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] VB6 DLL Help Required
In-Reply-To: <19983744.1082635887124.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>
Message-ID: <003001c428c3$eefe8d50$2a3ca8c0@TEXASSYSTEMS.COM>


Paul,

Are you using your DLL 'API-style' using Declare statements, or have you
registered it as a COM component, and can create objects you have defined in
your DLL?

If the former, you are limited basically to return codes from your function
call. If the latter, you could define your own events in your vbSendMail
wrapper object to relay the vbSendMail events to your client.

-Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net [mailto:paul.hartland at fsmail.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 7:11 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] VB6 DLL Help Required


To all,

Been playing with creating my own DLL?s today using Visual Basic 6 and I
eventually created one to send an email using the vbSendMail.dll which works
a treat.  But now I want to use the withevents part of the vbSendMail.dll
which will return the following:

            Email Sent Ok
            Email Failed
            Email Staus

Can I put a form inside a dll or do I somehow have to return the appropriate
message to the calling application, if so how will I do this, has anyone any
ideas on this?

Paul Hartland
Join the UK's number one for the internet
www.freeserve.com/time



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Apr 22 18:51:50 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 16:51:50 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Shell 'discoveries'
References: <20040422100618.1373059489.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <40885A96.1070909@shaw.ca>

Here are a couple of other approaches
FTP: Downloading Files via FTP with Progress Display Callback
http://vbnet.mvps.org/code/internet/ftpdownloadcallback.htm
Creating a Watched Folder with FindChangeNotification
http://vbnet.mvps.org/code/fileapi/watchedfolder.htm

Steven W. Erbach wrote:

>Dear Group,
>
>In debugging the custom EDI application I'm writing for a client of mine, I "discovered" a thing or two about using the Shell command to run a DOS batch file.
>
>The purpose of using the DOS batch file is to start an FTP session and upload a bunch of files to the EDI mailbox. Then, when the batch file is finished, move the files that were uploaded into an archive folder on the server.
>
>I had tested the batch file from a command prompt and it works just dandy. The EDI documents show up as having been uploaded successfully. However when I used the Shell command in my application I wouldn't see any document names uploaded. Then I'd get the annoying e-mail the next day from the EDI service provider saying that the expected documents weren't received.
>
>I finally figured out the problem: Access doesn't wait for the batch file to finish. The Shell command just launches the external program, whatever it is, and goes on to the next task. In my case it was moving the EDI documents into an archive folder. Well, Access whisked those files out of the FTP folder so fast that by the time the FTP login was complete (user name, password, and account name) the files were no longer available for uploading. The FTP session didn't fail, as such, there just wasn't anything to send.
>
>So, I added a MsgBox asking the user to verify that the DOS session had ended before going on to archive the EDI files. Problem solved.
>
>Sorry if this is tediously obvious, but I haven't ever run a batch file from Access and I have nobody to bounce this stuff off of (nobody off of whom to bounce this stuff?).
>
>Regards,
> 
>Steve Erbach
>Scientific Marketing
>Neenah, WI
>920-969-0504
> 
>"Congress is as trustworthy with money as a crack addict who is experimenting with heroin." - Dave Barry
> 
>"Giving money and power to the government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys." - P. J. O'Rourke
> 
>"Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for." - Will Rogers
> 
>"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly American criminal class except Congress." - Mark Twain
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Apr 22 18:59:28 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 16:59:28 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Dual Install 97 and 2000
References: <000b01c428af$28bab8d0$2201a8c0@PASCAL>
Message-ID: <40885C60.3080505@shaw.ca>

It is always oldest first so you will have to uninstall 2000. It creates 
less possibility of errors.
After each install go to officeupdates.microsoft.com to add patches. 
This site only checks office 2000 and up
so you will have to find  and download the Access 97 SP's from here 
seperately.


Mark Whittinghill wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>  I have 2000 on my machine, and would like to add 97.  Can I just install
>97 then fix the hatten.ttf problem, or do I need to uninstall 2000 first,
>install 97 then reinstall 2000?
>
>Mark Whittinghill
>Symphony Information Services
>763-391-7400
>mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com
>
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Apr 22 19:04:46 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 17:04:46 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Dual Install 97 and 2000
References: <000b01c428af$28bab8d0$2201a8c0@PASCAL> <40885C60.3080505@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <40885D9E.3020909@shaw.ca>

That should be
http://office.microsoft.com/officeupdate/

MartyConnelly wrote:

> It is always oldest first so you will have to uninstall 2000. It 
> creates less possibility of errors.
> After each install go to officeupdates.microsoft.com to add patches. 
> This site only checks office 2000 and up for upgrades
> so you will have to find  and download the Access 97 SP's from here 
> seperately.
>
>
> Mark Whittinghill wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>  I have 2000 on my machine, and would like to add 97.  Can I just 
>> install
>> 97 then fix the hatten.ttf problem, or do I need to uninstall 2000 
>> first,
>> install 97 then reinstall 2000?
>>
>> Mark Whittinghill
>> Symphony Information Services
>> 763-391-7400
>> mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Apr 22 19:38:34 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 17:38:34 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Shell 'discoveries'
In-Reply-To: <20040422100618.1373059489.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIGEOJCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Steven:

It has been some time ago but, I had a similar issue. The solution was to
have Access simply save the files, that were to be uploaded and then add an
event to the server's schedular...at 3:00AM every morning the server ran the
scheduled process, that first checked to see if a file was in the upload
queue...if there were it started an ftp session, transferred and received
any files. The only time it did not work was when the remote ftp server was
down.

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Steven W.
Erbach
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 8:06 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Shell 'discoveries'


Dear Group,

In debugging the custom EDI application I'm writing for a client of mine, I
"discovered" a thing or two about using the Shell command to run a DOS batch
file.

The purpose of using the DOS batch file is to start an FTP session and
upload a bunch of files to the EDI mailbox. Then, when the batch file is
finished, move the files that were uploaded into an archive folder on the
server.

I had tested the batch file from a command prompt and it works just dandy.
The EDI documents show up as having been uploaded successfully. However when
I used the Shell command in my application I wouldn't see any document names
uploaded. Then I'd get the annoying e-mail the next day from the EDI service
provider saying that the expected documents weren't received.

I finally figured out the problem: Access doesn't wait for the batch file to
finish. The Shell command just launches the external program, whatever it
is, and goes on to the next task. In my case it was moving the EDI documents
into an archive folder. Well, Access whisked those files out of the FTP
folder so fast that by the time the FTP login was complete (user name,
password, and account name) the files were no longer available for
uploading. The FTP session didn't fail, as such, there just wasn't anything
to send.

So, I added a MsgBox asking the user to verify that the DOS session had
ended before going on to archive the EDI files. Problem solved.

Sorry if this is tediously obvious, but I haven't ever run a batch file from
Access and I have nobody to bounce this stuff off of (nobody off of whom to
bounce this stuff?).

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504

"Congress is as trustworthy with money as a crack addict who is
experimenting with heroin." - Dave Barry

"Giving money and power to the government is like giving whiskey and car
keys to teenage boys." - P. J. O'Rourke

"Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for." - Will
Rogers

"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly
American criminal class except Congress." - Mark Twain

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From KIsmert at TexasSystems.com  Thu Apr 22 20:10:03 2004
From: KIsmert at TexasSystems.com (Ken Ismert)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 20:10:03 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <009601c427ce$7b629120$ef1865cb@winxp>
Message-ID: <003201c428cf$b5c90d10$2a3ca8c0@TEXASSYSTEMS.COM>


Susan,

You can do this using only a query, without any code, OpenArgs, or
calculated controls on the report's part.

You simply need a query with four variables:
  MajorInt	- the major date interval
  MinorInt	- the minor date interval
  CurInt	- the current date's minor interval (1 - 7 for weekdays, etc)
  MaxInt	- the number minor intervals in the major interval

For the following Major/Minor groups, use these values:

  Group        MajorInt   MinorInt   MaxInt   CurInt
  =======================================================================
  Week/Day     "ww"       "w"        7	    DatePart("w", Date)
  Month/Day    "m"        "d"        31       DatePart("d", Date)
  Year/Day     "yyyy"     "y"        366      DatePart("y", Date)
  Year/Week    "yyyy"     "ww"       54       DatePart("ww", Date)

This will group by MajorInt, then MinorInt, ordering the records starting
with CurInt for each MajorInt.

Sample Query:
  (For a report, replace the Parameters with Form control references, and
replace the OrderBy with grouping by GroupMajor, GroupMinor)

  PARAMETERS MajorInt Text ( 255 ), MinorInt Text ( 255 ), CurInt Short,
MaxInt Short;
  SELECT
    DatePart([MajorInt],[DateField]) AS GroupMajor,

(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])+IIf(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])<[CurI
nt],[MaxInt],0)) AS GroupMinor,
    tblDemo.DateID,
    Format([DateField],"yyyy") AS [Year],
    Format([DateField],"mmm") AS [Month],
    DatePart("ww",[DateField]) AS Week,
    DatePart("d",[DateField]) AS DayMonth,
    Format([DateField],"ddd") AS [Day]
  FROM
    tblDemo
  ORDER BY
    DatePart([MajorInt],[DateField]),

(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])+IIf(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])<[CurI
nt],[MaxInt],0));

-Ken
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Susan Harkins
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
  Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 04:16
  Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


  I'm grouping and sorting a report on a date field. The grouping is by the
  week -- but I want it to handle a changing first day of the week variable.
I
  can't get my head around it at all.

  Passing the first day of the week around is no problem -- I just can't
seem
  to get Access to group by it. I've looked at CreateGroupLevel, but I don't
  see how that can help.

  I tried adding a DatePart expression to the Detail section and using the
  OpenArgs property to pass the first day of the week, and while the
  expression works, I can't group by it -- it's a calculated control. I
don't
  want the users manipulating the underlying query either. They choose the
  first day of the week from a simple form and the rest needs to happen
behind
  the scenes.

  Any suggestions?

  Susan H.





From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Apr 23 00:30:20 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 22:30:20 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Mail Merge form letters
References: <OFE83F7E30.44DB6D5B-ONCA256E7E.007FBDEE@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <4088A9EC.6040903@shaw.ca>

For examples see this site

http://www.helenfeddema.com/access.htm
Merging to Word from Linked Access Tables accarch44.zip
92. Mail Merge Mysteries accarch92.zip

http://www.helenfeddema.com/CodeSamples.htm
There are half a dozen samples here
Merging to Word Four Ways
6/9/2002
Demonstrates four ways to merge Access data to Word documents ? Word 
document properties, bookmarks, the TypeText method and DDE mail merge. 
Both Access 97 and Access 2000 databases are provided; the Access 2000 
database also works in Access 2002. code24.zip
----------------
Also note if using Word 2002

in Access 2002 that VBA Mail Merges using OpenDataSource and Connection 
(Name: Query...) which uses
the old DDE technology, is broken. It was used in all previous versions 
of Access. Also, any DDE queries using the Connection method with (Name:
Query...) also If any query parameters are required, or any calculations 
done, or anything special, done to the standard select query,
Within WORD 2002, you CANNOT merge with a QUERY, unless you EXPORT the 
file from within Access and first, save the file as ?Microsoft Word 
Merge? file type
For info if you use these methods with Word 2002, this may have been 
fixed with an SP I am not sure.
http://www.engr.psu.edu/www/trg/isis/docs/Access2002-Merge-Datawarehouse-Notes-New.htm

connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I have just tried searching the archive for info and have some but could
>use a few hints.
>
>I have just written a DB which keeps track of Exhibited animals in our
>state. The client needs tio be able to send licences to exhibit to each of
>his customers as they apply and are accepted or rejected. I have set up a
>mail merge template in word which gets data from the relevant query. Each
>copy of the document will be of varying content based on wether conditions
>are imposed or not.
>
>I have never done this before and so need some advise from those who have.
>
>How do I set this up to print a copy of the letter for every record in a
>range of records? if they have 200 new approvals I need to generate a
>letter for each of the approvals in a range entered. What is the best way
>to put this into the database and allow a user entered parameter for the
>range?
>
>All help appreciated
>
>Connie Kamrowski
>
>Analyst/Programmer
>Information Technology
>NSW Agriculture
>Orange
>
>
>
>This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain
>confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient or received
>it in error, please delete the message and notify sender. Views expressed
>are those of the individual sender and are not necessarily the views of
>their organisation.
>
>
>  
>

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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Apr 23 00:34:37 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 22:34:37 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Dual Install 97 and 2000
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8631273E@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <01dd01c428f4$aac895a0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

And keep an eye on the target folder for the install.  The default install
folder name may be the same for both version.

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 3:46 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Dual Install 97 and 2000


> You can install 97 after.  Rename hatten.ttf before you try it, and you
> may have to reinstall 2000 afterward, retaining 97, to get the file type
> associations right.
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Whittinghill [mailto:mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 1:17 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Dual Install 97 and 2000
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>   I have 2000 on my machine, and would like to add 97.  Can I just
> install 97 then fix the hatten.ttf problem, or do I need to uninstall
> 2000 first, install 97 then reinstall 2000?
>
> Mark Whittinghill
> Symphony Information Services
> 763-391-7400
> mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com
>
>
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From lists at theopg.com  Fri Apr 23 01:45:33 2004
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 07:45:33 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP Runtime and Autocad
In-Reply-To: <8614878414.20040413132824@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <000801c428fe$93ee03b0$0f0b6bd5@netboxxp>

Hello All...

We are using Access XP runtime on Windos XP and today a couple of
machines completely failed to load any access database. In both cases
Autocad 2002 had been installed this morning. You could get into simple
databases, but as soon as you load a form that contains a list or tree
control (mscomctl.ocx) access falls over offering to restart and send a
message to Microsoft... Nothing usefull really.

Anyone out there know what could be causing this problem?

Cheers

Mark



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Apr 23 02:18:44 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 00:18:44 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP Runtime and Autocad
References: <000801c428fe$93ee03b0$0f0b6bd5@netboxxp>
Message-ID: <4088C354.3060707@shaw.ca>

I guess AutoCad install overwrote the control or reregistered their own 
version. Naughty, naughty.
Office XP SP2 installs version 6.1.95.45  of mscomctl.ocx
See DLL hell er help database. to check your present version number 
right click file in windows explorer for properties version.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http%3a%2f%2fsupport.microsoft.com%2fservicedesks%2ffileversion%2fdllinfo.asp&fp=1
Also check your runtime is including that control with the packaging wizard
MarkH wrote:

>Hello All...
>
>We are using Access XP runtime on Windos XP and today a couple of
>machines completely failed to load any access database. In both cases
>Autocad 2002 had been installed this morning. You could get into simple
>databases, but as soon as you load a form that contains a list or tree
>control (mscomctl.ocx) access falls over offering to restart and send a
>message to Microsoft... Nothing usefull really.
>
>Anyone out there know what could be causing this problem?
>
>Cheers
>
>Mark
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Fri Apr 23 03:02:32 2004
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 10:02:32 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] VB6 DLL Help Required
Message-ID: <28557687.1082707352738.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>

This is the code I used for my DLL (may not be what your expecting as this is my first ever DLL, and I use a reference to another DLL (vbSendMail)
Public WithEvents poSendmail As vbSendMail.clsSendMail
Function SendEmail(EmailFrom As String, EmailTo As String, EmailSub As String, EmailBody As String, EmailAtt As String)
    
    Set poSendmail = New clsSendMail
    
    With poSendmail
        .SMTPHost = "Primary"
        .From = EmailFrom
        .FromDisplayName = EmailFrom
        .ReplyToAddress = EmailFrom
        .Recipient = EmailTo
        .Subject = EmailSub
        .Message = EmailBody
        .Attachment = EmailAtt
        .Send
    End With
    
    Set poSendmail = Nothing
    
End Function
Private Sub poSendmail_SendSuccesful()
    MsgBox "Email has been sent", vbInformation, "**** Email Sent ****"
End Sub
Private Sub poSendmail_SendFailed(Explanation As String)
    MsgBox "Email has NOT been sent for the following reason:" & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
                 Explanation, vbInformation, "**** Email Failed ****"
End Sub

The msgbox's work to say if the email has been sent or not, but there is also a status event which really needs to be on a label, but I don't know how to show this to the user.
Paul




Message date : Apr 23 2004, 12:47 AM
>From : "Ken Ismert" 
To : "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
Copy to : 
Subject : RE: [AccessD] VB6 DLL Help Required

Paul,

Are you using your DLL 'API-style' using Declare statements, or have you
registered it as a COM component, and can create objects you have defined in
your DLL?

If the former, you are limited basically to return codes from your function
call. If the latter, you could define your own events in your vbSendMail
wrapper object to relay the vbSendMail events to your client.

-Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net [mailto:paul.hartland at fsmail.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 7:11 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] VB6 DLL Help Required


To all,

Been playing with creating my own DLL?s today using Visual Basic 6 and I
eventually created one to send an email using the vbSendMail.dll which works
a treat. But now I want to use the withevents part of the vbSendMail.dll
which will return the following:

Email Sent Ok
Email Failed
Email Staus

Can I put a form inside a dll or do I somehow have to return the appropriate
message to the calling application, if so how will I do this, has anyone any
ideas on this?

Paul Hartland
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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Fri Apr 23 03:33:50 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 01:33:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] MoveFile in Class -> Permission denied?
Message-ID: <20040423083350.99802.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com>

hi group,
 
I've got some code (think from internet) that moves a file. Works like a charm. However, I've created a method in a class called .MoveFile and added the 'move-file'-code to it. Now i get the following error: 70, permission denied. 
So when I call the code in a function it works
When I call the code as a method in a class it doesn't work.
 
How come?
 
TIA
 
Sander
C O D E   I N   F O R M
         '---------------------------------------------------
         'M O V E  F I L E
         '---------------------------------------------------
         With cFile
            .DownloadDir = "D:\Temp Projecten\Access\Switch\Download\"
            .ImportDir = "D:\Temp Projecten\Access\Switch\44\"
            txtDownloadDir = .DownloadDir
            txtImportDir = .ImportDir
            Call .MoveFile(.DownloadDir, .ImportDir, GetNamePart(strFileName))
         End With

C O D E   I N   C L A S S 
'Move a file if it exists
Function MoveFile(strSourceDir As String, _
                  strDestinationDir As String, _
                  strFile As String) As Boolean
   Dim fso
   Dim file As String, sfol As String, dfol As String
   
   file = strFile ' "test.xls"   ' change to match the file name
   sfol = strSourceDir ' "C:\"   ' change to match the source folder path
   dfol = strDestinationDir ' "E:\"   ' change to match the destination folder path
   
   Set fso = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
   
   If Not fso.FileExists(sfol & file) Then
      MsgBox sfol & file & " does not exist!", vbExclamation, "Source File Missing"
   ElseIf Not fso.FileExists(dfol & file) Then
      fso.MoveFile (sfol & file), dfol    <<== ERROR OCCURS HERE?!!
   Else
      MsgBox dfol & file & " already exists!", vbExclamation, "Destination File Exists"
   End If
   
End Function

Public Property Get DownloadDir() As String
   DownloadDir = m_strDownloadDir
End Property
Public Property Let ImportDir(ByVal vData As String)
   m_strImportDir = vData
End Property
Public Property Get ImportDir() As String
   ImportDir = m_strImportDir
End Property

 
 
 
 

		
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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Fri Apr 23 03:45:37 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 01:45:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] OT SQL Question
In-Reply-To: <002501c428a9$a77fa140$1b02a8c0@MARTINREID>
Message-ID: <20040423084537.43405.qmail@web61105.mail.yahoo.com>

Martin,
 
can you please provide a little more info?
WHY do you not want to use cursors?
Where does the output have to go to?
What format does it need to have?
What's the layout of the tables? (Send me the create table scripts...)
 
Sander

Martin Reid <mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk> wrote:
Tried the SQL Server list with this - no luck.


Given a one to many relationship is it possible to produce this output using
an SP without the use of cursors etc??

INPUT TABLE 1

1000
IT

1000
Databases

1000
VMS

1001
Spreadsheets

1001
GenStat

1002
Aquatic systems

1002
Research




INPUT TABLE 2



1000
Smith

1001
Brown

1002
Foster




OUTPUT REQUIRED

1000
Smith
IT, Databases,VMS

1001
Brown
Spreadsheets,GenStat

1002
Foster
Aquatic Systems,Research




Martin


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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr 23 03:41:32 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 10:41:32 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
In-Reply-To: <408827CE.7060601@verizon.net>
References: <657FB70438B7D311AF320090279C18010614418F@EXCHMAIL>
	<322806795.20040422090018@cactus.dk> <408827CE.7060601@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <1387056546.20040423104132@cactus.dk>

Hi Francisco

> Gustav,
>    David quoted an article for Sql Server in which this is 100% 
> reproducable.  I think he posted it here because of the initial posts of 
> problems where the IN clause or rather (NOT IN) was not behaving as 
> expected.  for that manner I've also seen it do this, one major 
> workaround is to explicitly point the inner quiery to that of the outer 
> query. that way any possible errors will be trapped

> SUCH as

>   DELETE FROM
>     TitleAuthor
>   WHERE
>     au_id IN (SELECT au_id FROM Publishers WHERE Publishers.au_id=TitleAuthor.au_id)

But Christopher didn't refer to SQL Server, that's why I thought it
would be more relevant to show that this bug is non-existing in Jet SQL.

Further, I guess including the where clause will perform much slower?
If you really need to do that, couldn't this do (I have no SQL Server
to play with):

     au_id IN
     (SELECT au_id FROM Publishers WHERE Publishers.au_id Is Not Null)

/gustav


>>>Pinnacle's SQL Server Professional, February 2002 (Volume 8, Number 2),
>>>"Known Problems with IN/NOT IN()"
>>>    
>>>
>>I can't recognize this; it behaves very politely.
>>The syntax doesn't work in Jet SQL, but this does:
>>
>>  DELETE FROM
>>    TitleAuthor
>>  WHERE
>>    au_id IN (SELECT au_id FROM Publishers)
>>
>>and it deletes zero records if Publishers is empty. If au_id doesn't
>>exist as a field, Access asks for it as a parameter.
>>So this is exactly as expected.
>>
>>Can you provide another example? Or are you talking about another SQL
>>engine?



From mwp.reid at queens-belfast.ac.uk  Fri Apr 23 05:10:37 2004
From: mwp.reid at queens-belfast.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 11:10:37 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
Subject: [AccessD] OT SQL Question
In-Reply-To: <20040423084537.43405.qmail@web61105.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SIMEON.10404231137.B@TUG00001.fujin.qub.ac.uk>

Sander

See inline

Martin



> Martin,
>  
> can you please provide a little more info?
> WHY do you not want to use cursors?

No reason just wanted to try it using SQL but didnt seem 
possible without cursors. 

> Where does the output have to go to?

Into a table

> What format does it need to have?

see above

> What's the layout of the tables? (Send me the create table scripts...)

No problem will email them of line later on. That OK?

>  
> Sander
> 
> Martin Reid <mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk> wrote:
> Tried the SQL Server list with this - no luck.
> 
> 
> Given a one to many relationship is it possible to produce this output using
> an SP without the use of cursors etc??
> 
> INPUT TABLE 1
> 
> 1000
> IT
> 
> 1000
> Databases
> 
> 1000
> VMS
> 
> 1001
> Spreadsheets
> 
> 1001
> GenStat
> 
> 1002
> Aquatic systems
> 
> 1002
> Research
> 
> 
> 
> 
> INPUT TABLE 2
> 
> 
> 
> 1000
> Smith
> 
> 1001
> Brown
> 
> 1002
> Foster
> 
> 
> 
> 
> OUTPUT REQUIRED
> 
> 1000
> Smith
> IT, Databases,VMS
> 
> 1001
> Brown
> Spreadsheets,GenStat
> 
> 1002
> Foster
> Aquatic Systems,Research
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Martin
> 
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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Fri Apr 23 07:45:59 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 08:45:59 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] VB6 DLL Help Required
Message-ID: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F9902E8058E@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com>

Paul,

I don't know the name of the status event you mention but you could do it a couple of ways.   Yes you could have a form in your dll that appears when status changes (I'm guessing this is the status events use):

<pseudocode>
Private Sub poSendMail_StatusChanged()
  frmStatus.Show
End Sub
</pseudocode>

Or you could add  a Status property and an event to your DLL that wraps the  vbSendMail status event.  This way your app can do whatever it likes with the event

<pseudocode>
Private m_strStatus As String
Public Event EmailStatusChanged

Public Property Get Status() As String
    Status = m_strStatus
End Property

Public Property Let Status(ByVal strStatus As String)
    m_strStatus = strStatus
End Property

Private Sub poSendMail_StatusChanged()
  m_strStatus = SomeValue 'set the Status property in the Changed event
  RaiseEvent EmailStatusChanged 'this is the event you'll trap in your client app
End Sub
</pseudocode>

Now you create an object of your class type in your client app WithEvents:

<pseudocode>
Dim strStatus As String
Private WithEvents myObject as MyDll.cMyClass

private Sub myObject_EmailStatusChanged()
	strStatus = myObject.Status
	'show the status to the user here
End Sub
</pseudocode>

HTH,

Jim DeMarco
Director Application Development
Hudson Health Plan




-----Original Message-----
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net [mailto:paul.hartland at fsmail.net]
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 4:03 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: RE: [AccessD] VB6 DLL Help Required


This is the code I used for my DLL (may not be what your expecting as this is my first ever DLL, and I use a reference to another DLL (vbSendMail)
Public WithEvents poSendmail As vbSendMail.clsSendMail
Function SendEmail(EmailFrom As String, EmailTo As String, EmailSub As String, EmailBody As String, EmailAtt As String)
    
    Set poSendmail = New clsSendMail
    
    With poSendmail
        .SMTPHost = "Primary"
        .From = EmailFrom
        .FromDisplayName = EmailFrom
        .ReplyToAddress = EmailFrom
        .Recipient = EmailTo
        .Subject = EmailSub
        .Message = EmailBody
        .Attachment = EmailAtt
        .Send
    End With
    
    Set poSendmail = Nothing
    
End Function
Private Sub poSendmail_SendSuccesful()
    MsgBox "Email has been sent", vbInformation, "**** Email Sent ****"
End Sub
Private Sub poSendmail_SendFailed(Explanation As String)
    MsgBox "Email has NOT been sent for the following reason:" & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
                 Explanation, vbInformation, "**** Email Failed ****"
End Sub

The msgbox's work to say if the email has been sent or not, but there is also a status event which really needs to be on a label, but I don't know how to show this to the user.
Paul




Message date : Apr 23 2004, 12:47 AM
>From : "Ken Ismert" 
To : "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
Copy to : 
Subject : RE: [AccessD] VB6 DLL Help Required

Paul,

Are you using your DLL 'API-style' using Declare statements, or have you
registered it as a COM component, and can create objects you have defined in
your DLL?

If the former, you are limited basically to return codes from your function
call. If the latter, you could define your own events in your vbSendMail
wrapper object to relay the vbSendMail events to your client.

-Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net [mailto:paul.hartland at fsmail.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 7:11 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] VB6 DLL Help Required


To all,

Been playing with creating my own DLL's today using Visual Basic 6 and I
eventually created one to send an email using the vbSendMail.dll which works
a treat. But now I want to use the withevents part of the vbSendMail.dll
which will return the following:

Email Sent Ok
Email Failed
Email Staus

Can I put a form inside a dll or do I somehow have to return the appropriate
message to the calling application, if so how will I do this, has anyone any
ideas on this?

Paul Hartland
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr 23 08:08:37 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 09:08:37 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <003201c428cf$b5c90d10$2a3ca8c0@TEXASSYSTEMS.COM>
Message-ID: <20040423130836.OIAG1728.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Thank you Ken. ;) 

My final solution is to refer to the form value in the query. This time
around, I hid the report, forcing the user to use the form to open the
report, but that isn't the best way to do it. Unfortunately, I didn't know
how to ward off the dread parameter prompt when the user opens the report
naturally instead of through the form. I've no problem setting a default for
the sort, but couldn't stop that stupid prompt because it's coming from the
query. :( 

Susan H. 

Susan,

You can do this using only a query, without any code, OpenArgs, or
calculated controls on the report's part.

You simply need a query with four variables:
  MajorInt	- the major date interval
  MinorInt	- the minor date interval
  CurInt	- the current date's minor interval (1 - 7 for weekdays,
etc)
  MaxInt	- the number minor intervals in the major interval

For the following Major/Minor groups, use these values:

  Group        MajorInt   MinorInt   MaxInt   CurInt
  =======================================================================
  Week/Day     "ww"       "w"        7	    DatePart("w", Date)
  Month/Day    "m"        "d"        31       DatePart("d", Date)
  Year/Day     "yyyy"     "y"        366      DatePart("y", Date)
  Year/Week    "yyyy"     "ww"       54       DatePart("ww", Date)

This will group by MajorInt, then MinorInt, ordering the records starting
with CurInt for each MajorInt.

Sample Query:
  (For a report, replace the Parameters with Form control references, and
replace the OrderBy with grouping by GroupMajor, GroupMinor)

  PARAMETERS MajorInt Text ( 255 ), MinorInt Text ( 255 ), CurInt Short,
MaxInt Short;
  SELECT
    DatePart([MajorInt],[DateField]) AS GroupMajor,

(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])+IIf(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])<[CurI
nt],[MaxInt],0)) AS GroupMinor,
    tblDemo.DateID,
    Format([DateField],"yyyy") AS [Year],
    Format([DateField],"mmm") AS [Month],
    DatePart("ww",[DateField]) AS Week,
    DatePart("d",[DateField]) AS DayMonth,
    Format([DateField],"ddd") AS [Day]
  FROM
    tblDemo
  ORDER BY
    DatePart([MajorInt],[DateField]),

(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])+IIf(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])<[CurI
nt],[MaxInt],0));

-Ken
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Susan Harkins
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
  Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 04:16
  Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


  I'm grouping and sorting a report on a date field. The grouping is by the
  week -- but I want it to handle a changing first day of the week variable.
I
  can't get my head around it at all.

  Passing the first day of the week around is no problem -- I just can't
seem
  to get Access to group by it. I've looked at CreateGroupLevel, but I don't
  see how that can help.

  I tried adding a DatePart expression to the Detail section and using the
  OpenArgs property to pass the first day of the week, and while the
  expression works, I can't group by it -- it's a calculated control. I
don't
  want the users manipulating the underlying query either. They choose the
  first day of the week from a simple form and the rest needs to happen
behind
  the scenes.

  Any suggestions?

  Susan H.



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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Fri Apr 23 08:16:16 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 09:16:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040423130836.OIAG1728.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKIEOKJAAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Susan,

<<Unfortunately, I didn't know
how to ward off the dread parameter prompt when the user opens the report
naturally instead of through the form. >>

  In the reports OnOpen event, you can check for the existence of the form
and

1. Open it and switch focus to it.
2. Cancel the report with a message box to the user telling them that they
need to open the report through the form.
3. Open the form hidden, stuff a default value, and then continue.

 or

4. Change the query to use a function to get the value for the parameter
from a global variable, which could be set from the form or from the
report's OnOpen event if the form is not open.

Jim
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 9:09 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


Thank you Ken. ;)

My final solution is to refer to the form value in the query. This time
around, I hid the report, forcing the user to use the form to open the
report, but that isn't the best way to do it. Unfortunately, I didn't know
how to ward off the dread parameter prompt when the user opens the report
naturally instead of through the form. I've no problem setting a default for
the sort, but couldn't stop that stupid prompt because it's coming from the
query. :(

Susan H.

Susan,

You can do this using only a query, without any code, OpenArgs, or
calculated controls on the report's part.

You simply need a query with four variables:
  MajorInt	- the major date interval
  MinorInt	- the minor date interval
  CurInt	- the current date's minor interval (1 - 7 for weekdays,
etc)
  MaxInt	- the number minor intervals in the major interval

For the following Major/Minor groups, use these values:

  Group        MajorInt   MinorInt   MaxInt   CurInt
  =======================================================================
  Week/Day     "ww"       "w"        7	    DatePart("w", Date)
  Month/Day    "m"        "d"        31       DatePart("d", Date)
  Year/Day     "yyyy"     "y"        366      DatePart("y", Date)
  Year/Week    "yyyy"     "ww"       54       DatePart("ww", Date)

This will group by MajorInt, then MinorInt, ordering the records starting
with CurInt for each MajorInt.

Sample Query:
  (For a report, replace the Parameters with Form control references, and
replace the OrderBy with grouping by GroupMajor, GroupMinor)

  PARAMETERS MajorInt Text ( 255 ), MinorInt Text ( 255 ), CurInt Short,
MaxInt Short;
  SELECT
    DatePart([MajorInt],[DateField]) AS GroupMajor,

(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])+IIf(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])<[CurI
nt],[MaxInt],0)) AS GroupMinor,
    tblDemo.DateID,
    Format([DateField],"yyyy") AS [Year],
    Format([DateField],"mmm") AS [Month],
    DatePart("ww",[DateField]) AS Week,
    DatePart("d",[DateField]) AS DayMonth,
    Format([DateField],"ddd") AS [Day]
  FROM
    tblDemo
  ORDER BY
    DatePart([MajorInt],[DateField]),

(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])+IIf(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])<[CurI
nt],[MaxInt],0));

-Ken
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Susan Harkins
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
  Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 04:16
  Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


  I'm grouping and sorting a report on a date field. The grouping is by the
  week -- but I want it to handle a changing first day of the week variable.
I
  can't get my head around it at all.

  Passing the first day of the week around is no problem -- I just can't
seem
  to get Access to group by it. I've looked at CreateGroupLevel, but I don't
  see how that can help.

  I tried adding a DatePart expression to the Detail section and using the
  OpenArgs property to pass the first day of the week, and while the
  expression works, I can't group by it -- it's a calculated control. I
don't
  want the users manipulating the underlying query either. They choose the
  first day of the week from a simple form and the rest needs to happen
behind
  the scenes.

  Any suggestions?

  Susan H.



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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr 23 08:28:33 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 15:28:33 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040423130836.OIAG1728.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <20040423130836.OIAG1728.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <17524277599.20040423152833@cactus.dk>

Hi Susan

> My final solution is to refer to the form value in the query. This time
> around, I hid the report, forcing the user to use the form to open the
> report, but that isn't the best way to do it. Unfortunately, I didn't know
> how to ward off the dread parameter prompt when the user opens the report
> naturally instead of through the form. I've no problem setting a default for
> the sort, but couldn't stop that stupid prompt because it's coming from the
> query. :(

If that was your only problem (of this thread, of course), you could
replace the parameter lookup with a tiny public function performing
the lookup:

<air code>

  Function GetReportWeekday() As Byte

    Const cstrForm    As String = "frmYourForm"
    ' Default first weekday.
    Const cbytWeekday As Byte = vbSunday
    
    Dim bytWeekday    As Byte

    If IsFormOpen(cstrForm) Then
      bytWeekday = Val(Nz(Forms(cstrForm)!txtYourTextbox.Value, vbNullString))
    EndIf
    If bytWeekday = 0 Then
      bytWeekday = cbytWeekday
    Endif

    GetReportWeekday = bytWeekday
    
  End Function

</air code>

/gustav



From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Fri Apr 23 08:44:29 2004
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 19:14:29 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
References: <20040423130836.OIAG1728.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <005f01c42939$445e4540$cd1865cb@winxp>

Susan,

    Did you happen to try out the solution given by me ? It makes use of the existing date field in report's record source and is not dependent upon the form having to remain open. No special alteration needed for the source query and no parameters to contend with.

    If due to any reason, the value of starting day of the week is not passed to report's OpenArgs, default value of 1 (Sunday) is assumed and there is no error situation.

Regards,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Susan Harkins 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 18:38
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


  Thank you Ken. ;) 

  My final solution is to refer to the form value in the query. This time
  around, I hid the report, forcing the user to use the form to open the
  report, but that isn't the best way to do it. Unfortunately, I didn't know
  how to ward off the dread parameter prompt when the user opens the report
  naturally instead of through the form. I've no problem setting a default for
  the sort, but couldn't stop that stupid prompt because it's coming from the
  query. :( 

  Susan H. 

  Susan,

  You can do this using only a query, without any code, OpenArgs, or
  calculated controls on the report's part.

  You simply need a query with four variables:
    MajorInt - the major date interval
    MinorInt - the minor date interval
    CurInt - the current date's minor interval (1 - 7 for weekdays,
  etc)
    MaxInt - the number minor intervals in the major interval

  For the following Major/Minor groups, use these values:

    Group        MajorInt   MinorInt   MaxInt   CurInt
    =======================================================================
    Week/Day     "ww"       "w"        7     DatePart("w", Date)
    Month/Day    "m"        "d"        31       DatePart("d", Date)
    Year/Day     "yyyy"     "y"        366      DatePart("y", Date)
    Year/Week    "yyyy"     "ww"       54       DatePart("ww", Date)

  This will group by MajorInt, then MinorInt, ordering the records starting
  with CurInt for each MajorInt.

  Sample Query:
    (For a report, replace the Parameters with Form control references, and
  replace the OrderBy with grouping by GroupMajor, GroupMinor)

    PARAMETERS MajorInt Text ( 255 ), MinorInt Text ( 255 ), CurInt Short,
  MaxInt Short;
    SELECT
      DatePart([MajorInt],[DateField]) AS GroupMajor,

  (DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])+IIf(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])<[CurI
  nt],[MaxInt],0)) AS GroupMinor,
      tblDemo.DateID,
      Format([DateField],"yyyy") AS [Year],
      Format([DateField],"mmm") AS [Month],
      DatePart("ww",[DateField]) AS Week,
      DatePart("d",[DateField]) AS DayMonth,
      Format([DateField],"ddd") AS [Day]
    FROM
      tblDemo
    ORDER BY
      DatePart([MajorInt],[DateField]),

  (DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])+IIf(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])<[CurI
  nt],[MaxInt],0));

  -Ken
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Susan Harkins
    To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
    Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 04:16
    Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


    I'm grouping and sorting a report on a date field. The grouping is by the
    week -- but I want it to handle a changing first day of the week variable.
  I
    can't get my head around it at all.

    Passing the first day of the week around is no problem -- I just can't
  seem
    to get Access to group by it. I've looked at CreateGroupLevel, but I don't
    see how that can help.

    I tried adding a DatePart expression to the Detail section and using the
    OpenArgs property to pass the first day of the week, and while the
    expression works, I can't group by it -- it's a calculated control. I
  don't
    want the users manipulating the underlying query either. They choose the
    first day of the week from a simple form and the rest needs to happen
  behind
    the scenes.

    Any suggestions?

    Susan H.



From rbgajewski at adelphia.net  Fri Apr 23 08:48:15 2004
From: rbgajewski at adelphia.net (Bob Gajewski)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 09:48:15 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKIEOKJAAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <LHEEKEKNLFONONKPIOCJKEBPGEAA.rbgajewski@adelphia.net>

Susan

If you choose Option #2 ...

(watch for line wraps)

In the report's OnOpen event, place:
******************************************
Private Sub Report_Open(Cancel As Integer)
Dim strFormName As String
	strFormName = "yourformname"
If Not IsLoaded(strFormName) Then
	Dim strMsg As String, strResponse As String
		strMsg = "This report cannot be run directly. You must open the " &
strFormName & " form."
		strResponse = MsgBox(strMsg)
	Cancel = True
End If
End Sub
******************************************

And in a module, place:
******************************************
Function IsLoaded(ByVal strFormName As String) As Boolean

	Const conObjStateClosed = 0
	Const conDesignView = 0

	If SysCmd(acSysCmdGetObjectState, acForm, strFormName) <> conObjStateClosed
Then
		If Forms(strFormName).CurrentView <> conDesignView Then
			IsLoaded = True
		End If
	End If

End Function
******************************************

Regards,
Bob Gajewski


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 09:16
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


Susan,

<<Unfortunately, I didn't know
how to ward off the dread parameter prompt when the user opens the report
naturally instead of through the form. >>

  In the reports OnOpen event, you can check for the existence of the form
and

1. Open it and switch focus to it.
2. Cancel the report with a message box to the user telling them that they
need to open the report through the form.
3. Open the form hidden, stuff a default value, and then continue.

 or

4. Change the query to use a function to get the value for the parameter
from a global variable, which could be set from the form or from the
report's OnOpen event if the form is not open.

Jim
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 9:09 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


Thank you Ken. ;)

My final solution is to refer to the form value in the query. This time
around, I hid the report, forcing the user to use the form to open the
report, but that isn't the best way to do it. Unfortunately, I didn't know
how to ward off the dread parameter prompt when the user opens the report
naturally instead of through the form. I've no problem setting a default for
the sort, but couldn't stop that stupid prompt because it's coming from the
query. :(

Susan H.

Susan,

You can do this using only a query, without any code, OpenArgs, or
calculated controls on the report's part.

You simply need a query with four variables:
  MajorInt	- the major date interval
  MinorInt	- the minor date interval
  CurInt	- the current date's minor interval (1 - 7 for weekdays,
etc)
  MaxInt	- the number minor intervals in the major interval

For the following Major/Minor groups, use these values:

  Group        MajorInt   MinorInt   MaxInt   CurInt
  =======================================================================
  Week/Day     "ww"       "w"        7	    DatePart("w", Date)
  Month/Day    "m"        "d"        31       DatePart("d", Date)
  Year/Day     "yyyy"     "y"        366      DatePart("y", Date)
  Year/Week    "yyyy"     "ww"       54       DatePart("ww", Date)

This will group by MajorInt, then MinorInt, ordering the records starting
with CurInt for each MajorInt.

Sample Query:
  (For a report, replace the Parameters with Form control references, and
replace the OrderBy with grouping by GroupMajor, GroupMinor)

  PARAMETERS MajorInt Text ( 255 ), MinorInt Text ( 255 ), CurInt Short,
MaxInt Short;
  SELECT
    DatePart([MajorInt],[DateField]) AS GroupMajor,

(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])+IIf(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])<[CurI
nt],[MaxInt],0)) AS GroupMinor,
    tblDemo.DateID,
    Format([DateField],"yyyy") AS [Year],
    Format([DateField],"mmm") AS [Month],
    DatePart("ww",[DateField]) AS Week,
    DatePart("d",[DateField]) AS DayMonth,
    Format([DateField],"ddd") AS [Day]
  FROM
    tblDemo
  ORDER BY
    DatePart([MajorInt],[DateField]),

(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])+IIf(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])<[CurI
nt],[MaxInt],0));

-Ken
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Susan Harkins
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
  Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 04:16
  Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


  I'm grouping and sorting a report on a date field. The grouping is by the
  week -- but I want it to handle a changing first day of the week variable.
I
  can't get my head around it at all.

  Passing the first day of the week around is no problem -- I just can't
seem
  to get Access to group by it. I've looked at CreateGroupLevel, but I don't
  see how that can help.

  I tried adding a DatePart expression to the Detail section and using the
  OpenArgs property to pass the first day of the week, and while the
  expression works, I can't group by it -- it's a calculated control. I
don't
  want the users manipulating the underlying query either. They choose the
  first day of the week from a simple form and the rest needs to happen
behind
  the scenes.

  Any suggestions?

  Susan H.



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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Fri Apr 23 09:17:51 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 10:17:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
Message-ID: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F9902E80595@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com>

Just a quick and easy question.  What's new in advanced coding features in Access 2003?  We have enums but can we raise events?  Can we design and use a class as an Interface?   Is there anything else from VB that might have been added?

TIA,

Jim DeMarco
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From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca  Fri Apr 23 09:38:15 2004
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 10:38:15 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
Message-ID: <s088f229.026@cbc.ca>

Enums and RaiseEvents aren't new in A2K3. They were added in A2K.

As for what's new in A2K3, I can't help. I don't have it.

Bryan Carbonnell
bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca

>>> Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org 23-Apr-04 10:17:51 AM >>>
Just a quick and easy question.  What's new in advanced coding features
in Access 2003?  We have enums but can we raise events?  Can we design
and use a class as an Interface?   Is there anything else from VB that
might have been added?

TIA,




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr 23 09:40:33 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 10:40:33 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKIEOKJAAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20040423144032.SRAV1774.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I considered the first, but skipped it because the article was already so
long, but I didn't actually apply it. My reasons for wanting the report to
open without error is so the user could avoid the form altogether and depend
on defaults within the report itself when the form isn't present, but it
wasn't worth the extra space for the current article. 

I started out with a function, but my goal was to do it with as few pieces
as possible.  

Susan H. 

Susan,

<<Unfortunately, I didn't know
how to ward off the dread parameter prompt when the user opens the report
naturally instead of through the form. >>

  In the reports OnOpen event, you can check for the existence of the form
and

1. Open it and switch focus to it.
2. Cancel the report with a message box to the user telling them that they
need to open the report through the form.
3. Open the form hidden, stuff a default value, and then continue.

 or

4. Change the query to use a function to get the value for the parameter
from a global variable, which could be set from the form or from the
report's OnOpen event if the form is not open.

Jim
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 9:09 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


Thank you Ken. ;)

My final solution is to refer to the form value in the query. This time
around, I hid the report, forcing the user to use the form to open the
report, but that isn't the best way to do it. Unfortunately, I didn't know
how to ward off the dread parameter prompt when the user opens the report
naturally instead of through the form. I've no problem setting a default for
the sort, but couldn't stop that stupid prompt because it's coming from the
query. :(

Susan H.

Susan,

You can do this using only a query, without any code, OpenArgs, or
calculated controls on the report's part.

You simply need a query with four variables:
  MajorInt	- the major date interval
  MinorInt	- the minor date interval
  CurInt	- the current date's minor interval (1 - 7 for weekdays,
etc)
  MaxInt	- the number minor intervals in the major interval

For the following Major/Minor groups, use these values:

  Group        MajorInt   MinorInt   MaxInt   CurInt
  =======================================================================
  Week/Day     "ww"       "w"        7	    DatePart("w", Date)
  Month/Day    "m"        "d"        31       DatePart("d", Date)
  Year/Day     "yyyy"     "y"        366      DatePart("y", Date)
  Year/Week    "yyyy"     "ww"       54       DatePart("ww", Date)

This will group by MajorInt, then MinorInt, ordering the records starting
with CurInt for each MajorInt.

Sample Query:
  (For a report, replace the Parameters with Form control references, and
replace the OrderBy with grouping by GroupMajor, GroupMinor)

  PARAMETERS MajorInt Text ( 255 ), MinorInt Text ( 255 ), CurInt Short,
MaxInt Short;
  SELECT
    DatePart([MajorInt],[DateField]) AS GroupMajor,

(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])+IIf(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])<[CurI
nt],[MaxInt],0)) AS GroupMinor,
    tblDemo.DateID,
    Format([DateField],"yyyy") AS [Year],
    Format([DateField],"mmm") AS [Month],
    DatePart("ww",[DateField]) AS Week,
    DatePart("d",[DateField]) AS DayMonth,
    Format([DateField],"ddd") AS [Day]
  FROM
    tblDemo
  ORDER BY
    DatePart([MajorInt],[DateField]),

(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])+IIf(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])<[CurI
nt],[MaxInt],0));

-Ken
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Susan Harkins
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
  Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 04:16
  Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


  I'm grouping and sorting a report on a date field. The grouping is by the
  week -- but I want it to handle a changing first day of the week variable.
I
  can't get my head around it at all.

  Passing the first day of the week around is no problem -- I just can't
seem
  to get Access to group by it. I've looked at CreateGroupLevel, but I don't
  see how that can help.

  I tried adding a DatePart expression to the Detail section and using the
  OpenArgs property to pass the first day of the week, and while the
  expression works, I can't group by it -- it's a calculated control. I
don't
  want the users manipulating the underlying query either. They choose the
  first day of the week from a simple form and the rest needs to happen
behind
  the scenes.

  Any suggestions?

  Susan H.



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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr 23 09:41:23 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 10:41:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <17524277599.20040423152833@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20040423144121.SRVB1774.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Back to the function though -- I wanted to avoid it. I plan to hock a
follow-up. ;) 

Susan H. 

Hi Susan

> My final solution is to refer to the form value in the query. This 
> time around, I hid the report, forcing the user to use the form to 
> open the report, but that isn't the best way to do it. Unfortunately, 
> I didn't know how to ward off the dread parameter prompt when the user 
> opens the report naturally instead of through the form. I've no 
> problem setting a default for the sort, but couldn't stop that stupid 
> prompt because it's coming from the query. :(

If that was your only problem (of this thread, of course), you could replace
the parameter lookup with a tiny public function performing the lookup:

<air code>

  Function GetReportWeekday() As Byte

    Const cstrForm    As String = "frmYourForm"
    ' Default first weekday.
    Const cbytWeekday As Byte = vbSunday
    
    Dim bytWeekday    As Byte

    If IsFormOpen(cstrForm) Then
      bytWeekday = Val(Nz(Forms(cstrForm)!txtYourTextbox.Value,
vbNullString))
    EndIf
    If bytWeekday = 0 Then
      bytWeekday = cbytWeekday
    Endif

    GetReportWeekday = bytWeekday
    
  End Function

</air code>

/gustav

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr 23 09:42:05 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 10:42:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <005f01c42939$445e4540$cd1865cb@winxp>
Message-ID: <20040423144203.SSGC1774.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I don't really remember -- reviewed several though -- lots of interesting
choices, that's for sure. :) 

Susan H. 

Susan,

    Did you happen to try out the solution given by me ? It makes use of the
existing date field in report's record source and is not dependent upon the
form having to remain open. No special alteration needed for the source
query and no parameters to contend with.

    If due to any reason, the value of starting day of the week is not
passed to report's OpenArgs, default value of 1 (Sunday) is assumed and
there is no error situation.




From lists at theopg.com  Fri Apr 23 10:08:19 2004
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 16:08:19 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP Runtime and Autocad
In-Reply-To: <4088C354.3060707@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <000001c42944$cff34c80$0f0b6bd5@netboxxp>

Cheers Marty... Will do

Have a good weekend

Mark

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: 23 April 2004 08:19
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access XP Runtime and Autocad


I guess AutoCad install overwrote the control or reregistered their own 
version. Naughty, naughty.
Office XP SP2 installs version 6.1.95.45  of mscomctl.ocx
See DLL hell er help database. to check your present version number 
right click file in windows explorer for properties version.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http%3a%2f%2fsupport.micr
osoft.com%2fservicedesks%2ffileversion%2fdllinfo.asp&fp=1
Also check your runtime is including that control with the packaging
wizard MarkH wrote:

>Hello All...
>
>We are using Access XP runtime on Windos XP and today a couple of 
>machines completely failed to load any access database. In both cases 
>Autocad 2002 had been installed this morning. You could get into simple

>databases, but as soon as you load a form that contains a list or tree 
>control (mscomctl.ocx) access falls over offering to restart and send a

>message to Microsoft... Nothing usefull really.
>
>Anyone out there know what could be causing this problem?
>
>Cheers
>
>Mark
>
>  
>

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Apr 23 10:30:48 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 08:30:48 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8631273F@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I don't have it yet.  My understanding is that there is almost nothing
new in 2003, since it is still based on VBA6 and has no hooks to VB.net.
Raising custom events came in with 2002.

Charlotte Foust

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From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org] 
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 6:18 AM
To: AccessD (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question


Just a quick and easy question.  What's new in advanced coding features
in Access 2003?  We have enums but can we raise events?  Can we design
and use a class as an Interface?   Is there anything else from VB that
might have been added?

TIA,

Jim DeMarco
Director Application Development
Hudson Health Plan




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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr 23 10:49:13 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 17:49:13 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8631273F@infoserver01.infostat.local>
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8631273F@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <3232717965.20040423174913@cactus.dk>

Hi Charlotte and Jim

Here's the blurb:

  http://www.microsoft.com/office/editions/prodinfo/compare.mspx

For Access it pretty much comes down to Smart Tags ...

/gustav


> I don't have it yet.  My understanding is that there is almost nothing
> new in 2003, since it is still based on VBA6 and has no hooks to VB.net.
> Raising custom events came in with 2002.

> Charlotte Foust

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org] 
> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 6:18 AM
> To: AccessD (E-mail)
> Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question


> Just a quick and easy question.  What's new in advanced coding features
> in Access 2003?  We have enums but can we raise events?  Can we design
> and use a class as an Interface?   Is there anything else from VB that
> might have been added?

> TIA,

> Jim DeMarco
> Director Application Development
> Hudson Health Plan



From mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com  Fri Apr 23 11:01:17 2004
From: mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com (Mark Whittinghill)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 11:01:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Dual Install 97 and 2000
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8631273E@infoserver01.infostat.local>
	<01dd01c428f4$aac895a0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <003001c4294c$36d99920$2201a8c0@PASCAL>

Thanks for the replies.  I've done dual installs before, but always earlier
first.  I was just hoping to save a little work, but I'll uninstall 2K and
reinstall after 97.

Mark Whittinghill
Symphony Information Services
763-391-7400
mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com
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From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 12:34 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Dual Install 97 and 2000


> And keep an eye on the target folder for the install.  The default install
> folder name may be the same for both version.
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 3:46 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Dual Install 97 and 2000
>
>
> > You can install 97 after.  Rename hatten.ttf before you try it, and you
> > may have to reinstall 2000 afterward, retaining 97, to get the file type
> > associations right.
> >
> > Charlotte Foust
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mark Whittinghill [mailto:mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 1:17 PM
> > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] Dual Install 97 and 2000
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> >   I have 2000 on my machine, and would like to add 97.  Can I just
> > install 97 then fix the hatten.ttf problem, or do I need to uninstall
> > 2000 first, install 97 then reinstall 2000?
> >
> > Mark Whittinghill
> > Symphony Information Services
> > 763-391-7400
> > mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com
> >
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From chizotz at mchsi.com  Fri Apr 23 11:28:36 2004
From: chizotz at mchsi.com (chizotz at mchsi.com)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 16:28:36 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Extract Oracle Schema Information
Message-ID: <042320041628.9114.4172@mchsi.com>

I know this is pretty far afield, but I could sure use some help. Pointers to 
help would be great, no need for a big off-topic discussion here. Private 
emails also would be very welcome, either to chizotz at mchsi.com or 
rrallen at tribmail.com.

I have a huge (ca. 400 table, 250 view) Oracle database with no schema 
information available. Is there a utility somewhere that can pull out the 
table names, datatypes, and relationships quickly for me? I've tried reverse 
engineering it with Visio 2003, which is great except that it is so huge that 
Visio just creates a very messy and densly packed mess that will still take me 
days or even weeks to sort out. I do _not_ have access to any Oracle tools and 
can not use SQL*Plus or anything like that. I can connect to this database via 
ODBC only.

Thanks for any suggestions,

Ron Allen
Circulation Systems Administrator
Columbia Daily Tribune
573-815-1604
rrallen at tribmail.com


From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Fri Apr 23 11:45:46 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 12:45:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
Message-ID: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F99030FE7E8@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com>

Thanks.  I probably should have added 2002 to my request (we're moving from A97 to 2003 shortly).

Jim D.

-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 11:31 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question


I don't have it yet.  My understanding is that there is almost nothing
new in 2003, since it is still based on VBA6 and has no hooks to VB.net.
Raising custom events came in with 2002.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org] 
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 6:18 AM
To: AccessD (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question


Just a quick and easy question.  What's new in advanced coding features
in Access 2003?  We have enums but can we raise events?  Can we design
and use a class as an Interface?   Is there anything else from VB that
might have been added?

TIA,

Jim DeMarco
Director Application Development
Hudson Health Plan




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From Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us  Fri Apr 23 11:48:39 2004
From: Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us (O'Connor, Patricia  )
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 12:48:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Extract Oracle Schema Information
Message-ID: <B94C79B465542042AB0748EAF37F9AC024A6CB@EXCNYSM0A1AB.nysemail.nyenet>

Create an Access Passthru query to use the native oracle syntax for
viewing Oracle database/table properties.

http://tahiti.oracle.com/pls/db92/db92.drilldown?book=a96525&remark=doci
ndex&expand_all=1 

will give you the 9i documentation search engine - watch wrapping

HTH
Patti

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*OTDA - BDMA
*(W) mailto:Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us
*(w) mailto:aa1160 at dfa.state.ny.us
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> chizotz at mchsi.com
> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 12:29 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] OT: Extract Oracle Schema Information
> 
> I know this is pretty far afield, but I could sure use some 
> help. Pointers to help would be great, no need for a big 
> off-topic discussion here. Private emails also would be very 
> welcome, either to chizotz at mchsi.com or rrallen at tribmail.com.
> 
> I have a huge (ca. 400 table, 250 view) Oracle database with 
> no schema information available. Is there a utility somewhere 
> that can pull out the table names, datatypes, and 
> relationships quickly for me? I've tried reverse engineering 
> it with Visio 2003, which is great except that it is so huge 
> that Visio just creates a very messy and densly packed mess 
> that will still take me days or even weeks to sort out. I do 
> _not_ have access to any Oracle tools and can not use 
> SQL*Plus or anything like that. I can connect to this 
> database via ODBC only.
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions,
> 
> Ron Allen
> Circulation Systems Administrator
> Columbia Daily Tribune
> 573-815-1604
> rrallen at tribmail.com
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr 23 11:48:07 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 18:48:07 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Extract Oracle Schema Information
In-Reply-To: <042320041628.9114.4172@mchsi.com>
References: <042320041628.9114.4172@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <3736252137.20040423184807@cactus.dk>

Hi Ron

Have a look at:

  http://www.thekompany.com/products/dataarchitect/

  http://www.thekompany.com/products/dbradar/

and Dezign for databases:

  http://www.datanamic.com/

/gustav


> I have a huge (ca. 400 table, 250 view) Oracle database with no schema
> information available. Is there a utility somewhere that can pull out the 
> table names, datatypes, and relationships quickly for me? I've tried reverse 
> engineering it with Visio 2003, which is great except that it is so huge that 
> Visio just creates a very messy and densly packed mess that will still take me 
> days or even weeks to sort out. I do _not_ have access to any Oracle tools and 
> can not use SQL*Plus or anything like that. I can connect to this database via 
> ODBC only.

> Thanks for any suggestions,

> Ron Allen
> Circulation Systems Administrator
> Columbia Daily Tribune
> 573-815-1604
> rrallen at tribmail.com



From Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us  Fri Apr 23 11:55:12 2004
From: Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us (O'Connor, Patricia  )
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 12:55:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
Message-ID: <B94C79B465542042AB0748EAF37F9AC024A6CC@EXCNYSM0A1AB.nysemail.nyenet>

Jim,

I am in the same boat and have several A97 applications I have to bring
up to 2003. I just got A2000 a little bit ago, so am upgrading them to
that first.

I did find that the first A97 one I tried to bring into 2003 will not
even open. Keeps telling me the code is corrupt and I have decompiled
and compiled the thing 3 times. My machine has A97 & 2000, So, they gave
me a machine with 2000 and 2003 on it. 

Have NO idea what I may be missing

So, let me know when you run into anything and I will gladly do the same
if you would like.

Patti

******************************************************************
*Patricia O'Connor
*Associate Computer Programmer Analyst
*OTDA - BDMA
*(W) mailto:Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us
*(w) mailto:aa1160 at dfa.state.ny.us
******************************************************************
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 12:46 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
> 
> Thanks.  I probably should have added 2002 to my request 
> (we're moving from A97 to 2003 shortly).
> 
> Jim D.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 11:31 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
> 
> 
> I don't have it yet.  My understanding is that there is 
> almost nothing new in 2003, since it is still based on VBA6 
> and has no hooks to VB.net.
> Raising custom events came in with 2002.
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org]
> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 6:18 AM
> To: AccessD (E-mail)
> Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
> 
> 
> Just a quick and easy question.  What's new in advanced 
> coding features
> in Access 2003?  We have enums but can we raise events?  Can we design
> and use a class as an Interface?   Is there anything else from VB that
> might have been added?
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Jim DeMarco
> Director Application Development
> Hudson Health Plan
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Apr 23 12:07:33 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 12:07:33 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Accidentally Modified SYSTEM.MDA without Backup
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227B0A@main2.marlow.com>

I'm sorry I didn't catch this before.  There is no need to 'reinstall' your
system.mdw.  Click start-->Run then type wrkgadmn.  That will bring up the
work group administrator.  

Click the 'Create' button.  Then simply make a new system.mdw.  

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dick Abo
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 1:29 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Cc: orthorabod at yahoo.com
Subject: [AccessD] Accidentally Modified SYSTEM.MDA without Backup


Hi All,
While examining a file (chapter 14) from the CD in the Access97 ADH, I
opened the change password form and although I did not enter or change
passwords, I am no longer able to use any of my Access 2K files. (The old
and new Passwords were blank in the dialog box.)  I now get prompted with
the Logon Dialog box that asks for the Administrator password, for every
Access application that I attempt to use.

Short of re-installing the SYSTEM.MDW from the installation CD, is there
another quick way to rectify this problem?  (I did not make a backup of the
SYSTEM.MDW file but plan to do so from now on and my installation CD is
currently unavailable.)  

I was previously not using the Security Workgroups feature of Access, but
now it appears that I may have to....

 Many thanks in advance.



		
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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Fri Apr 23 12:35:35 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 13:35:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
Message-ID: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F99030FE7E9@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com>

Patti,

Thanks.  I'd be glad to keep everyone posted.  So far the only issues we've had are with the security warnings ("unsafe expressions not blocked").

Jim D.

-----Original Message-----
From: O'Connor, Patricia [mailto:Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us]
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 12:55 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question


Jim,

I am in the same boat and have several A97 applications I have to bring
up to 2003. I just got A2000 a little bit ago, so am upgrading them to
that first.

I did find that the first A97 one I tried to bring into 2003 will not
even open. Keeps telling me the code is corrupt and I have decompiled
and compiled the thing 3 times. My machine has A97 & 2000, So, they gave
me a machine with 2000 and 2003 on it. 

Have NO idea what I may be missing

So, let me know when you run into anything and I will gladly do the same
if you would like.

Patti

******************************************************************
*Patricia O'Connor
*Associate Computer Programmer Analyst
*OTDA - BDMA
*(W) mailto:Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us
*(w) mailto:aa1160 at dfa.state.ny.us
******************************************************************
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 12:46 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
> 
> Thanks.  I probably should have added 2002 to my request 
> (we're moving from A97 to 2003 shortly).
> 
> Jim D.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 11:31 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
> 
> 
> I don't have it yet.  My understanding is that there is 
> almost nothing new in 2003, since it is still based on VBA6 
> and has no hooks to VB.net.
> Raising custom events came in with 2002.
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org]
> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 6:18 AM
> To: AccessD (E-mail)
> Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
> 
> 
> Just a quick and easy question.  What's new in advanced 
> coding features
> in Access 2003?  We have enums but can we raise events?  Can we design
> and use a class as an Interface?   Is there anything else from VB that
> might have been added?
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Jim DeMarco
> Director Application Development
> Hudson Health Plan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> **************************************************************
> **********
> ***********
> "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only 
> of the named
> recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP)
> that is confidential or privileged.  If you are not the intended
> recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying,
> distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly
> prohibited.  If you have received this message in error or are not the
> named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by 
> contacting the
> sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at
> (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not
> forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all 
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> message.  Thank You".
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> 
> 
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> the contents of this message is strictly prohibited.  If you 
> have received this message in error or are not the named 
> recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting 
> the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or 
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> recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and 
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Apr 23 13:06:49 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 11:06:49 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Extract Oracle Schema Information
References: <042320041628.9114.4172@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <40895B39.4030109@shaw.ca>

You could try one of these UML modeling tools to reverse engineer 
Oracle, Does SQL and Access as well
They both have 30 day trials and are reasonably priced under $500. I 
have used EA only for looks at large Access databases to workout ER diagrams
Enterprise Architect
http://www.sparxsystems.com.au/ea_faq.htm
or
Case Studio 2
http://www.casestudio.com/enu/

chizotz at mchsi.com wrote:

>I know this is pretty far afield, but I could sure use some help. Pointers to 
>help would be great, no need for a big off-topic discussion here. Private 
>emails also would be very welcome, either to chizotz at mchsi.com or 
>rrallen at tribmail.com.
>
>I have a huge (ca. 400 table, 250 view) Oracle database with no schema 
>information available. Is there a utility somewhere that can pull out the 
>table names, datatypes, and relationships quickly for me? I've tried reverse 
>engineering it with Visio 2003, which is great except that it is so huge that 
>Visio just creates a very messy and densly packed mess that will still take me 
>days or even weeks to sort out. I do _not_ have access to any Oracle tools and 
>can not use SQL*Plus or anything like that. I can connect to this database via 
>ODBC only.
>
>Thanks for any suggestions,
>
>Ron Allen
>Circulation Systems Administrator
>Columbia Daily Tribune
>573-815-1604
>rrallen at tribmail.com
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From KIsmert at TexasSystems.com  Fri Apr 23 13:23:17 2004
From: KIsmert at TexasSystems.com (Ken Ismert)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 13:23:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] VB6 DLL Help Required
In-Reply-To: <28557687.1082707352738.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>
Message-ID: <000001c42960$0d648ff0$2a3ca8c0@TEXASSYSTEMS.COM>


> This is the code I used for my DLL
<snip>

OK, that looks good. But, how are you using your DLL on the client side? You
can either use a Declare statement to define your SendMail call, or you can
register your DLL as a COM component and use it as an object.

For the latter to work, you will need to do one of two things:

 A. Define a callback interface to pass to your SendMail function. This
would require a PublicNotCreatable class in your DLL that defines the
'events' you want to send back to the caller.

 B. Convert your SendMail function to a class with its own events. Your
SendMail class would trap the vbSendMail events and re-raise them to your
client. The client would create, use and destroy your SendMail object just
like any other.

Do either of these options appeal to you?

-Ken



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Apr 23 13:54:25 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 11:54:25 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
References: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F99030FE7E9@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com>
Message-ID: <40896661.9060509@shaw.ca>

Some changes for Access 2003 to note

Unsafe Expressions - Macro Security In Access 2003  Author: Garry 
Robinson  Need for Jet SP 8 install especially for known security exploits.
http://www.vb123.com/toolshed/03_access/unsafeExpressions.htm

Best Practices When Using Microsoft Office Access 2003 in a Multi-user 
Environment
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/odc_ac2003_ta/html/odc_acmultibest.asp

Using the XML Features of the Microsoft Office Access 2003 and Microsoft 
Office Excel 2003 Object Models
also covers Export an Access Report to XML using ReportML
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dno2k3ta/html/odc_acxlom.asp

Importing and Exporting XSD Data in Microsoft Office Access 2003
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/odc_ac2003_ta/html/odc_acmultibest.asp

Code Signing Office XP Visual Basic for Applications Macro Projects
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnoxpta/html/odc_dsvba.asp

The Definitive "Hello World" Managed Smart Document Tutorial
http://www.msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnofftalk/html/office09042003.asp

Build with Access 2003 Developer Extensions Packaging Wizard
http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/technologyinfo/devtools/accessextensions/default.aspx

Office 2003 Security Enhancements
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/office/office2003/deploy/secdesn.mspx

watch the little darlings out there don't start using this willy nilly
Information Rights Management in Office Professional Edition 2003
http://www.microsoft.com/office/editions/prodinfo/technologies/irm.mspx

Jim DeMarco wrote:

>Patti,
>
>Thanks.  I'd be glad to keep everyone posted.  So far the only issues we've had are with the security warnings ("unsafe expressions not blocked").
>
>Jim D.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: O'Connor, Patricia [mailto:Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us]
>Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 12:55 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
>
>
>Jim,
>
>I am in the same boat and have several A97 applications I have to bring
>up to 2003. I just got A2000 a little bit ago, so am upgrading them to
>that first.
>
>I did find that the first A97 one I tried to bring into 2003 will not
>even open. Keeps telling me the code is corrupt and I have decompiled
>and compiled the thing 3 times. My machine has A97 & 2000, So, they gave
>me a machine with 2000 and 2003 on it. 
>
>Have NO idea what I may be missing
>
>So, let me know when you run into anything and I will gladly do the same
>if you would like.
>
>Patti
>
>******************************************************************
>*Patricia O'Connor
>*Associate Computer Programmer Analyst
>*OTDA - BDMA
>*(W) mailto:Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us
>*(w) mailto:aa1160 at dfa.state.ny.us
>******************************************************************
> 
>
>  
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>>Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 12:46 PM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
>>
>>Thanks.  I probably should have added 2002 to my request 
>>(we're moving from A97 to 2003 shortly).
>>
>>Jim D.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
>>Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 11:31 AM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
>>
>>
>>I don't have it yet.  My understanding is that there is 
>>almost nothing new in 2003, since it is still based on VBA6 
>>and has no hooks to VB.net.
>>Raising custom events came in with 2002.
>>
>>Charlotte Foust
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org]
>>Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 6:18 AM
>>To: AccessD (E-mail)
>>Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
>>
>>
>>Just a quick and easy question.  What's new in advanced 
>>coding features
>>in Access 2003?  We have enums but can we raise events?  Can we design
>>and use a class as an Interface?   Is there anything else from VB that
>>might have been added?
>>
>>TIA,
>>
>>Jim DeMarco
>>Director Application Development
>>Hudson Health Plan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>**************************************************************
>>**********
>>***********
>>"This electronic message is intended to be for the use only 
>>of the named
>>recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP)
>>that is confidential or privileged.  If you are not the intended
>>recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying,
>>distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly
>>prohibited.  If you have received this message in error or are not the
>>named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by 
>>contacting the
>>sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at
>>(914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not
>>forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all 
>>copies of this
>>message.  Thank You".
>>**************************************************************
>>**********
>>***********
>>
>>-- 
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>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>**************************************************************
>>*********************
>>"This electronic message is intended to be for the use only 
>>of the named recipient, and may contain information from 
>>Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged.  
>>If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby 
>>notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of 
>>the contents of this message is strictly prohibited.  If you 
>>have received this message in error or are not the named 
>>recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting 
>>the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or 
>>calling HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended 
>>recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and 
>>delete and destroy all copies of this message.  Thank You".
>>**************************************************************
>>*********************
>>
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>>
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>>

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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Fri Apr 23 14:09:55 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Developer)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 15:09:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
In-Reply-To: <40896661.9060509@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <000a01c42966$93e8b140$6401a8c0@COA3>

And on a lighter, but positive note, those of us nearing 40 appreciate
that the font size in SQL view of the query designer is now adjustable
to a larger size in 2k3.

Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 2:54 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question


Some changes for Access 2003 to note

Unsafe Expressions - Macro Security In Access 2003  Author: Garry 
Robinson  Need for Jet SP 8 install especially for known security
exploits. http://www.vb123.com/toolshed/03_access/unsafeExpressions.htm

Best Practices When Using Microsoft Office Access 2003 in a Multi-user 
Environment
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/odc_ac2
003_ta/html/odc_acmultibest.asp

Using the XML Features of the Microsoft Office Access 2003 and Microsoft

Office Excel 2003 Object Models
also covers Export an Access Report to XML using ReportML
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dno2k3t
a/html/odc_acxlom.asp

Importing and Exporting XSD Data in Microsoft Office Access 2003
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/odc_ac2
003_ta/html/odc_acmultibest.asp

Code Signing Office XP Visual Basic for Applications Macro Projects
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnoxpta
/html/odc_dsvba.asp

The Definitive "Hello World" Managed Smart Document Tutorial
http://www.msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dno
fftalk/html/office09042003.asp

Build with Access 2003 Developer Extensions Packaging Wizard
http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/technologyinfo/devtools/accessextension
s/default.aspx

Office 2003 Security Enhancements
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/office/office2003/deploy/se
cdesn.mspx

watch the little darlings out there don't start using this willy nilly
Information Rights Management in Office Professional Edition 2003
http://www.microsoft.com/office/editions/prodinfo/technologies/irm.mspx

Jim DeMarco wrote:

>Patti,
>
>Thanks.  I'd be glad to keep everyone posted.  So far the only issues 
>we've had are with the security warnings ("unsafe expressions not 
>blocked").
>
>Jim D.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: O'Connor, Patricia [mailto:Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us]
>Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 12:55 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
>
>
>Jim,
>
>I am in the same boat and have several A97 applications I have to bring

>up to 2003. I just got A2000 a little bit ago, so am upgrading them to 
>that first.
>
>I did find that the first A97 one I tried to bring into 2003 will not 
>even open. Keeps telling me the code is corrupt and I have decompiled 
>and compiled the thing 3 times. My machine has A97 & 2000, So, they 
>gave me a machine with 2000 and 2003 on it.
>
>Have NO idea what I may be missing
>
>So, let me know when you run into anything and I will gladly do the 
>same if you would like.
>
>Patti
>
>******************************************************************
>*Patricia O'Connor
>*Associate Computer Programmer Analyst
>*OTDA - BDMA
>*(W) mailto:Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us
>*(w) mailto:aa1160 at dfa.state.ny.us
>******************************************************************
> 
>
>  
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>>Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 12:46 PM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
>>
>>Thanks.  I probably should have added 2002 to my request
>>(we're moving from A97 to 2003 shortly).
>>
>>Jim D.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
>>Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 11:31 AM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
>>
>>
>>I don't have it yet.  My understanding is that there is
>>almost nothing new in 2003, since it is still based on VBA6 
>>and has no hooks to VB.net.
>>Raising custom events came in with 2002.
>>
>>Charlotte Foust
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org]
>>Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 6:18 AM
>>To: AccessD (E-mail)
>>Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
>>
>>
>>Just a quick and easy question.  What's new in advanced
>>coding features
>>in Access 2003?  We have enums but can we raise events?  Can we design
>>and use a class as an Interface?   Is there anything else from VB that
>>might have been added?
>>
>>TIA,
>>
>>Jim DeMarco
>>Director Application Development
>>Hudson Health Plan
>>
>>
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From MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com  Fri Apr 23 14:55:44 2004
From: MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com (Mark Boyd)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 15:55:44 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] AfterUpdate not working
Message-ID: <B408574ACAFCAE49BEE6B626C3CD9F2D7932@wpamail2k.mcbassoc.com>

This is very strange.  I have code in the After_Update event of a text
box.

If I type something into the box, then tab out, the code does not fire.
If I go back into the textbox and re-type something and tab, then code
fires.

But, if I put a breakpoint in the code, it hits it everytime.

 

Any ideas?

 

Thanks,

Mark Boyd

Sr. Systems Analyst

McBee Associates, Inc.

 



From Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com  Fri Apr 23 15:48:21 2004
From: Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com (Pickering, Stephen)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 15:48:21 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] AfterUpdate not working
Message-ID: <CF0EA31794DDD611ADDC00065B88640C039A2F9E@s98027.psd.caremark.int>

Are you using On Error Resume Next in your error handler?

Just a thought....

Steve

-----Mark Boyd's Original Message-----

This is very strange.  I have code in the After_Update event of a text
box.

If I type something into the box, then tab out, the code does not fire.
If I go back into the textbox and re-type something and tab, then code
fires.

But, if I put a breakpoint in the code, it hits it everytime.

 

Any ideas?

 

Thanks,

Mark Boyd

Sr. Systems Analyst

McBee Associates, Inc.


From MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com  Fri Apr 23 15:52:02 2004
From: MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com (Mark Boyd)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 16:52:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] AfterUpdate not working
Message-ID: <B408574ACAFCAE49BEE6B626C3CD9F2D3B36CF@wpamail2k.mcbassoc.com>

No, its doesn't resume next.
I think I'm gonna re-create the form.  There may be something corrupt
within it.

Thanks,
Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Pickering, Stephen [mailto:Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 4:48 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] AfterUpdate not working

Are you using On Error Resume Next in your error handler?

Just a thought....

Steve

-----Mark Boyd's Original Message-----

This is very strange.  I have code in the After_Update event of a text
box.

If I type something into the box, then tab out, the code does not fire.
If I go back into the textbox and re-type something and tab, then code
fires.

But, if I put a breakpoint in the code, it hits it everytime.

 

Any ideas?

 

Thanks,

Mark Boyd

Sr. Systems Analyst

McBee Associates, Inc.
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sat Apr 24 00:58:47 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 22:58:47 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K MDE on A2002
Message-ID: <025d01c429c1$35f78f60$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Dear List:

I had a client call this morning installing a system at a customer site. He took the mdb which was created in A2000, made an mde in A2000, then put that mde on the customer's machine which was running A2002.  It failed on opening the first form with an error that indicated either a compile error or a missing reference.

So I had him put the A2000 mdb on the A2002 machine.  Compiled fine.  No missing references.  But the 'Make an MDE' button was grayed out.  So I had him convert this A2000 MDB to A2003.  Then he could make an MDE and it ran just fine.

So is it the case that an A2000 MDE will not run on A2002 (or A2003)?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com



From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Apr 24 04:49:30 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 11:49:30 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
In-Reply-To: <000a01c42966$93e8b140$6401a8c0@COA3>
References: <000a01c42966$93e8b140$6401a8c0@COA3>
Message-ID: <1606658304.20040424114930@cactus.dk>

Hi Steve

> And on a lighter, but positive note, those of us nearing 40 appreciate
> that the font size in SQL view of the query designer is now adjustable
> to a larger size in 2k3.

Strange, I can easily match that qualification, but I adjusted it
down and to normal ...

/gustav



From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Sat Apr 24 06:24:54 2004
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 12:24:54 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT SQL Server
References: <000a01c42966$93e8b140$6401a8c0@COA3>
	<1606658304.20040424114930@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <003301c429ee$c63df140$1b02a8c0@MARTINREID>

This is going to make me look stupid again (<:

Does a Unique Constraint equate to a non clustered index??

In the table properties for an upsized table the index property shows a
unique constraint. When I get out the table using the following I get an
indication of a non clustered index.

DBCC TRACEON (3604)
GO

Declare @DBID Int, @TableID Int
Select @DBID = db_id(), @TableID = object_id('testtable')

DBCC ind(@DBID, @TableID, -1)
GO

All the documentation says a non clustered index is created. But if the
wizard creates a unique constraint as opposed to a non clustered index this
I need to know. Or is this the same thing???

Any comments appreciated.

Martin



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Apr 24 07:19:03 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 08:19:03 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K MDE on A2002
In-Reply-To: <025d01c429c1$35f78f60$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPGEAFHGAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Rocky,

I think that this is exactly what is going on.  I use a lib as you know.  At
one client I have a mix of systems running A2K, AXP and A2003.  I develop in
A2K.  The non A2K systems REQUIRE a recompile of the lib AND the MDB that
uses the lib before they will run.  I get a page fault otherwise.

I do know that AXP and above install a new version of VB6.  It appears that
this new DLL "breaks" the A2K apps.  Recompiling with AXP uses that VB6 DLL
and "fixes" whatever the problem is.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 1:59 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] A2K MDE on A2002


Dear List:

I had a client call this morning installing a system at a customer site. He
took the mdb which was created in A2000, made an mde in A2000, then put that
mde on the customer's machine which was running A2002.  It failed on opening
the first form with an error that indicated either a compile error or a
missing reference.

So I had him put the A2000 mdb on the A2002 machine.  Compiled fine.  No
missing references.  But the 'Make an MDE' button was grayed out.  So I had
him convert this A2000 MDB to A2003.  Then he could make an MDE and it ran
just fine.

So is it the case that an A2000 MDE will not run on A2002 (or A2003)?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com

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From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Sat Apr 24 07:41:50 2004
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 07:41:50 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Zip + 4 + foreign phones
Message-ID: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D678@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>

Does anyone have the Zip Codes with the + 4? I have a table with 54,000 zip
codes - but the user wants the +4.

Also, I know there has been a lot of messages over the years about foreign
(other countries besides US) phone numbers. This is the first time I have
had to use foreign numbers. How are they formatted?

Oh, which makes me think - are foreign zip codes different too? Does anyone
have a table with foreign zip codes too?

Virginia


From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Apr 24 07:51:27 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 14:51:27 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Zip + 4 + foreign phones
In-Reply-To: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D678@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>
References: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D678@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <8317575291.20040424145127@cactus.dk>

Hi Virginia

Go to Graham Rhind's site and research the links:

  http://www.grcdi.nl/

This will easily keep you busy for a week or so!

/gustav


> Does anyone have the Zip Codes with the + 4? I have a table with 54,000 zip
> codes - but the user wants the +4.

> Also, I know there has been a lot of messages over the years about foreign
> (other countries besides US) phone numbers. This is the first time I have
> had to use foreign numbers. How are they formatted?

> Oh, which makes me think - are foreign zip codes different too? Does anyone
> have a table with foreign zip codes too?

> Virginia



From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Sat Apr 24 07:54:06 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 08:54:06 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Zip + 4 + foreign phones
References: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D678@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <001901c429fb$3a5bee90$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...foreign numbers and postal codes vary tremendously, often even within the
same country ...the only solution I've found is to code for country/region
individually.

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hollis,Virginia" <HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com>
To: <accessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 8:41 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Zip + 4 + foreign phones


> Does anyone have the Zip Codes with the + 4? I have a table with 54,000
zip
> codes - but the user wants the +4.
>
> Also, I know there has been a lot of messages over the years about foreign
> (other countries besides US) phone numbers. This is the first time I have
> had to use foreign numbers. How are they formatted?
>
> Oh, which makes me think - are foreign zip codes different too? Does
anyone
> have a table with foreign zip codes too?
>
> Virginia
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From billmorrill at comcast.net  Sat Apr 24 08:42:36 2004
From: billmorrill at comcast.net (Bill Morrill)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 07:42:36 -0600
Subject: [Accessd] Running a report each Wednesday at 10:00 am 
Message-ID: <000201c42a02$a90736e0$21170818@Morrill>

Anybody point me in a direction here?  How does one run an A2K report once a week -say on Wednesday at 10:00AM - without human intervention?   Access will be up and running in a particular database, in a particular form when the time trigger is go off.  

Thank you.

Bill

From scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com  Sat Apr 24 08:49:23 2004
From: scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com (Steve Capistrant)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 08:49:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
In-Reply-To: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227AE0@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <MJEFLPNLACJJDBCHNLAGIELOECAA.scapistrant@symphonyinfo.com>

Drew, is it still possible to get a copy of your OLD version in the
meantime?

Steve Capistrant
Symphony Information Services
scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
www.symphonyinfo.com
Phone: 763-391-7400
7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132, Brooklyn Park, MN 55428

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 9:48 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion


You're quite welcome.  As soon as life settles down, I'll finish up the new
version.  Which is keyboard friendly too!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 5:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion


> I use a modified version of Drew's old mini-calendar which is all VBA,
dead reliable, and very fast.
Ditto (and thanks to Drew)

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk





From jmoss111 at bellsouth.net  Sat Apr 24 09:43:25 2004
From: jmoss111 at bellsouth.net (JMoss)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 09:43:25 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Zip + 4 + foreign phones
In-Reply-To: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D678@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <OKEMICJGPJCMJCCHGNDEKEAMCEAA.jmoss111@bellsouth.net>

The USPS has the total database and you can subscribe to it. Several
companies have such a US/CA product + address correction, FIPS codes and
NCOA registry service, I'm not sure of the pricing but it's not cheap. I use
to work for a CRM company and we used PostalSoft to aid in client's direct
mail advertising.

We didn't do anything but North American mailing, so I have no idea about
vendors of foreign postal service software.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 7:42 AM
To: 'accessD at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: [AccessD] Zip + 4 + foreign phones


Does anyone have the Zip Codes with the + 4? I have a table with 54,000 zip
codes - but the user wants the +4.

Also, I know there has been a lot of messages over the years about foreign
(other countries besides US) phone numbers. This is the first time I have
had to use foreign numbers. How are they formatted?

Oh, which makes me think - are foreign zip codes different too? Does anyone
have a table with foreign zip codes too?

Virginia
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Apr 24 10:13:04 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 11:13:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Zip + 4 + foreign phones
In-Reply-To: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D678@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPMEAGHGAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

>This is the first time I have had to use foreign numbers. How are they
formatted?

Any way they want to!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 8:42 AM
To: 'accessD at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: [AccessD] Zip + 4 + foreign phones


Does anyone have the Zip Codes with the + 4? I have a table with 54,000 zip
codes - but the user wants the +4.

Also, I know there has been a lot of messages over the years about foreign
(other countries besides US) phone numbers. This is the first time I have
had to use foreign numbers. How are they formatted?

Oh, which makes me think - are foreign zip codes different too? Does anyone
have a table with foreign zip codes too?

Virginia
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Apr 24 11:07:20 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 09:07:20 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K MDE on A2002
In-Reply-To: <025d01c429c1$35f78f60$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIIEPCCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Rocky:

I have found that you have to recompile and reattach the references so you
can migrate an application to XP on XP O/S. That is why you have a number of
computers in your shop all running different versions of Windows....

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 10:59 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] A2K MDE on A2002


Dear List:

I had a client call this morning installing a system at a customer site. He
took the mdb which was created in A2000, made an mde in A2000, then put that
mde on the customer's machine which was running A2002.  It failed on opening
the first form with an error that indicated either a compile error or a
missing reference.

So I had him put the A2000 mdb on the A2002 machine.  Compiled fine.  No
missing references.  But the 'Make an MDE' button was grayed out.  So I had
him convert this A2000 MDB to A2003.  Then he could make an MDE and it ran
just fine.

So is it the case that an A2000 MDE will not run on A2002 (or A2003)?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com

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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Sat Apr 24 11:16:44 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 17:16:44 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Zip + 4 + foreign phones
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPMEAGHGAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <003601c42a17$890f1d20$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

> Any way they want to!

ROTFL

And regarding:
> are foreign zip codes different too

Oddly enough Virginia all of us foreign countries haven't decided to adopt
US zip code formats any more than we've come into line with US phone
numbers. Damned inconsiderate I know but there are nearly 200 of us
(countries that is) and it's a tad tricky getting agreement. ;-)  In fact
'foreign zip codes' is a bit of an oxymoron because I don't know how many
countries even use that term. I believe the generic term is postal code. 

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> John W. Colby
> Sent: 24 April 2004 16:13
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Zip + 4 + foreign phones
> 
> 
> >This is the first time I have had to use foreign numbers. 
> How are they
> formatted?
> 
> Any way they want to!
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of 
> Hollis,Virginia
> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 8:42 AM
> To: 'accessD at databaseadvisors.com'
> Subject: [AccessD] Zip + 4 + foreign phones
> 
> 
> Does anyone have the Zip Codes with the + 4? I have a table 
> with 54,000 zip codes - but the user wants the +4.
> 
> Also, I know there has been a lot of messages over the years 
> about foreign (other countries besides US) phone numbers. 
> This is the first time I have had to use foreign numbers. How 
> are they formatted?
> 
> Oh, which makes me think - are foreign zip codes different 
> too? Does anyone have a table with foreign zip codes too?
> 
> Virginia
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From chizotz at mchsi.com  Sat Apr 24 13:26:36 2004
From: chizotz at mchsi.com (Ron Allen)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 13:26:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Extract Oracle Schema Information
In-Reply-To: <40895B39.4030109@shaw.ca>
References: <042320041628.9114.4172@mchsi.com> <40895B39.4030109@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <72800818.20040424132636@mchsi.com>

Thanks Gustav, Patricai, and Marty. I'll look into your suggestions
Monday :)

Ron




From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Sat Apr 24 13:53:15 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Developer)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 14:53:15 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
In-Reply-To: <1606658304.20040424114930@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <000201c42a2d$6f2a3af0$6401a8c0@COA3>

Down? From 8 pts?


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 5:50 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question


Hi Steve

> And on a lighter, but positive note, those of us nearing 40 appreciate

> that the font size in SQL view of the query designer is now adjustable

> to a larger size in 2k3.

Strange, I can easily match that qualification, but I adjusted it down
and to normal ...

/gustav

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Apr 24 14:02:54 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 21:02:54 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
In-Reply-To: <000201c42a2d$6f2a3af0$6401a8c0@COA3>
References: <000201c42a2d$6f2a3af0$6401a8c0@COA3>
Message-ID: <14439861658.20040424210254@cactus.dk>

Hi Steve

> Down? From 8 pts?

Ahh, no, down relative to the old fixed setting.

/gustav


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 5:50 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question


> Hi Steve

>> And on a lighter, but positive note, those of us nearing 40 appreciate

>> that the font size in SQL view of the query designer is now adjustable

>> to a larger size in 2k3.

> Strange, I can easily match that qualification, but I adjusted it down
> and to normal ...



From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Sat Apr 24 14:23:50 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Developer)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 15:23:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
In-Reply-To: <14439861658.20040424210254@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <000301c42a31$b7ce9630$6401a8c0@COA3>

Hmmm.. You must be talking about 97's fixed size which was legible ...
Take a look a 2k2's TINY sql view LOL



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 3:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question


Hi Steve

> Down? From 8 pts?

Ahh, no, down relative to the old fixed setting.

/gustav


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav 
> Brock
> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 5:50 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question


> Hi Steve

>> And on a lighter, but positive note, those of us nearing 40 
>> appreciate

>> that the font size in SQL view of the query designer is now 
>> adjustable

>> to a larger size in 2k3.

> Strange, I can easily match that qualification, but I adjusted it down

> and to normal ...

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Apr 24 18:35:45 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 09:35:45 +1000
Subject: [Accessd] Running a report each Wednesday at 10:00 am 
In-Reply-To: <000201c42a02$a90736e0$21170818@Morrill>
Message-ID: <408B8671.31045.16737F@localhost>

On 24 Apr 2004 at 7:42, Bill Morrill wrote:

> Anybody point me in a direction here?  How does one run an A2K report
> once a week -say on Wednesday at 10:00AM - without human intervention?
>   Access will be up and running in a particular database, in a
> particular form when the time trigger is go off.  
> 

The best way is to NOT rely on the Access application being up and 
running. (One day someone *will* close it down or it will crash).

I have several Access apps which run unattended (they generate and 
email reports in the early hours of the morning).

They way I do it is create a function in an mdb file to print the 
report(s), email it or whatever followed by a Quit command.

Then I call that function as the argument of an Autoexec macro.

FInally I use a task scheduler which opens the application at the 
appropriate time. (The built-in MS scheduler or the AT command works 
fine for this)



 
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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sat Apr 24 19:54:14 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 17:54:14 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] cbo after adding data question solved
In-Reply-To: <20040420091903.C4D9D2537F4@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <000c01c42a5f$d47e6750$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

It is the cbo.requery that I needed. Thanks

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 3:19 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] cbo after adding data question

Hi Joe

If you have one or two places on the form which can add/alter records and
therefore require the cbo to be requeried then just add:

me!cboWhatever.Requery

at the end of those routines.

Alternatively, and as long as it doesn't cause too much of an overhead, you
can place:

me.ActiveControl.Requery

in the OnGotFocus of the combo itself. You may do more requeries than are
strictly necessary this way, but it pretty much ensures that the combo sees
everything it should.

--
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Subject: [AccessD] cbo after adding data question
Date: 20/04/04 06:53

>
> I have a combo box that pulls up matching records on a form. The data
source
> is a SQL statement not a query.
>
>
>
> After the record is entered where and how should I write the requry
> statement to add the record to the combo box?
>
>
>
> JOE HECHT
>
> LOS ANGELES CA
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Apr 24 20:20:19 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 21:20:19 -0400
Subject: [Accessd] Running a report each Wednesday at 10:00 am 
In-Reply-To: <408B8671.31045.16737F@localhost>
Message-ID: <MAEGKIDGFPDDHGNCGPGAKEKOCCAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Does the scheduler require a login?

JWC

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 7:36 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: Re: [Accessd] Running a report each Wednesday at 10:00 am 


On 24 Apr 2004 at 7:42, Bill Morrill wrote:

> Anybody point me in a direction here?  How does one run an A2K report
> once a week -say on Wednesday at 10:00AM - without human intervention?
>   Access will be up and running in a particular database, in a
> particular form when the time trigger is go off.  
> 

The best way is to NOT rely on the Access application being up and 
running. (One day someone *will* close it down or it will crash).

I have several Access apps which run unattended (they generate and 
email reports in the early hours of the morning).

They way I do it is create a function in an mdb file to print the 
report(s), email it or whatever followed by a Quit command.

Then I call that function as the argument of an Autoexec macro.

FInally I use a task scheduler which opens the application at the 
appropriate time. (The built-in MS scheduler or the AT command works 
fine for this)



 
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sun Apr 25 02:27:16 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 00:27:16 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Zip + 4 + foreign phones
References: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D678@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <408B6854.8080407@shaw.ca>

Starting point for International Addressing
http://www.upu.int/post_code/en/looking_information.html
http://www.upu.int/post_code/en/international_addressing.shtml
International Software 10 CD-ROMS
http://www.addressdoctor.com/en/FrameFile.asp?2-3+products/developers.htm
USPS online webService zip code lookup
http://www.usps.com/webtools/htm/Address-Information.htm

'canada("H0H 0H0") 'Santa Claus' zipcode or H0H-0H0
'British Postal code similar but extra digit
Function canada(txt) As Boolean
'verify Canada Postal Code also a couple of letters not used, first 
letter is Province V=BC
Dim i As Integer
Dim compare As Variant
For i = 1 To Len(txt) - 6
    compare = Mid(txt, i, 7)
    MsgBox compare
    If compare Like "*[a-z]#[a-z] #[a-z]#*" Then
        canada = True
    Else
        canada = False
    End If
Next
End Function

Foriegn phone numbers generally are 1-3 digit country code then 1-4 
digit city code (in US area code) then 4-6 digit number
The US Canada country code just happens to be 1
extra prefix digits are added in each country to get an international 
line or extra city line

Hollis,Virginia wrote:

>Does anyone have the Zip Codes with the + 4? I have a table with 54,000 zip
>codes - but the user wants the +4.
>
>Also, I know there has been a lot of messages over the years about foreign
>(other countries besides US) phone numbers. This is the first time I have
>had to use foreign numbers. How are they formatted?
>
>Oh, which makes me think - are foreign zip codes different too? Does anyone
>have a table with foreign zip codes too?
>
>Virginia
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Apr 25 02:44:56 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 09:44:56 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
In-Reply-To: <000301c42a31$b7ce9630$6401a8c0@COA3>
References: <000301c42a31$b7ce9630$6401a8c0@COA3>
Message-ID: <1076574273.20040425094456@cactus.dk>

Hi Steve

> Hmmm.. You must be talking about 97's fixed size which was legible ...

Yes.

> Take a look a 2k2's TINY sql view LOL

In fact, that's what I prefer - except for the Courier font.

/gustav


>> Down? From 8 pts?

> Ahh, no, down relative to the old fixed setting.

> /gustav


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav 
>> Brock
>> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 5:50 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question


>> Hi Steve

>>> And on a lighter, but positive note, those of us nearing 40 
>>> appreciate

>>> that the font size in SQL view of the query designer is now 
>>> adjustable

>>> to a larger size in 2k3.

>> Strange, I can easily match that qualification, but I adjusted it down

>> and to normal ...



From pharryecoenen at btinternet.com  Sun Apr 25 05:36:17 2004
From: pharryecoenen at btinternet.com (Harry Coenen)
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 11:36:17 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Zip + 4 + foreign phones
In-Reply-To: <408B6854.8080407@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAL9Kwp6bii0K2NXFiQtqufcKAAAAQAAAAgx/j9QxKnEaXCLqtza0H1wEAAAAA@btinternet.com>

Hi 

Gustav and Martin already pointed you to some fairly decent reference works
on the subject
Thanks for http://www.grcdi.nl/ Gustav.

Postal codes:
Learning something from big accounting packages I usually include the
address as one big multiline field, used for address labels and two
additional fields for the two parts of a postal code which (in most cases)
make the code unique for a postal delivery point. You could use this as a
lookup (e.g. for invoices)

In the UK this would be:
postal code, e.g. WC1A 2HQ (for somewhere in London Westminster)
house number: 23
However, they still have the snobbish habit of quoting a building name
instead of the number in the street, in which case you cannot validate on
this.

AFAIK this is the case in most of Europe.

Validation of postal codes, is usually done by including the full tables of
avialable codes (e.g. in student records systems in use at universities),
though you can do something at your ow risk (like Martin did for Canada)
for the UK this would be:
AAnx nAA
A = Alpha
n = digit
x = alpha/digit/nothing


Phone numbers:
Until looking at the above site I was sure that something like
+ccc (r) nnnn NNNNNNN
would do the trick
where:
+  : indicates the number you have to dial for getting international access
(00 in the UK)
ccc : the country code (e.g. 1 for USA/Can or 44 for UK)
(r) : the national access code for interlocal calls (you don't dial this
when calling international or local, only national interlocal)
nnnn: the local area code (e.g. 20 for London or 1392 for Exeter)
NNNNNNN: the local phone number (you only dial this part when calling local)
So 5 fields, where the first could be derived from the country settings of
the machine, and the local area code for the machine should be stored if you
want to use it for dialing (though it doesn't hurt dialing the full
international number, the network understands it, but I am not sure if the
networks billing software thus).
The nnnnNNNNNNNN, actually cannot be more than 10 digits (some
standardisation effort).

The resulting number, e.g. +44(0)1234 123456 is fairly standard (at least in
Europe), even my mobile knows what to do with it.


Hope this is of any help

Cheers

Harry



From papparuff at comcast.net  Sun Apr 25 11:02:53 2004
From: papparuff at comcast.net (John Ruff)
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 09:02:53 -0700
Subject: [Accessd] Running a report each Wednesday at 10:00 am 
In-Reply-To: <000201c42a02$a90736e0$21170818@Morrill>
Message-ID: <001601c42ade$c480d3e0$6401a8c0@papparuff>

The Windows Task Scheduler is a great tool coupled with Access' startup
command-line options ("Startup command-line options" in help) are perfect
for what you want to do.

The Task Scheduler is used to open the Access program that runs the report
each Wed at 10:00 am and the command-line options tells the program to
perform the task when the command-line option is invoked.

When you start the task scheduler you will want to tell it where the
MSAccess program is and what database do you want to start.  Typically it
will look something like this: (careful about wordwrap)

"C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\MSACCESS.EXE"
"\\Blv2-dmt\LeadGen\BZUSPSMTA01\Import_BZTables_Ver_11_XP.mdb" /cmd Autorun

(In my sample line above I use the word Autorun as my command-line keyword
but you can use any word you want)

Next you will need to do some coding in your Access program to recognize the
cmd Autorun command-line option.  I typically use a hidden splash screen and
in the form's OnLoad Event I would place the code that would print the
report and then close the program once the printing is done.

Private Sub Form_Load()

   Dim strDocName As String

    If Command = "Autorun" Then
    
        ' Print the document       
        strDocName = "rpt_Metrics"
    	  DoCmd.OpenReport strDocName, acNormal
        ' Quit the program        
        DoCmd.Quit
        
    End If
    
End Sub 


John V. Ruff - The Eternal Optimist :-)

"Commit to the Lord whatever you do,
                and your plans will succeed." Proverbs 16:3



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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Morrill
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 6:43 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [Accessd] Running a report each Wednesday at 10:00 am


Anybody point me in a direction here?  How does one run an A2K report once a
week -say on Wednesday at 10:00AM - without human intervention?   Access
will be up and running in a particular database, in a particular form when
the time trigger is go off. 

Thank you.

Bill
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From pharryecoenen at btinternet.com  Sun Apr 25 12:43:57 2004
From: pharryecoenen at btinternet.com (Harry Coenen)
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 18:43:57 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Zip + 4 + foreign phones
In-Reply-To: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D678@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAL9Kwp6bii0K2NXFiQtqufcKAAAAQAAAAWNHObF1uokiEHZl0t1tbhAEAAAAA@btinternet.com>

Hi Virginia

Just to show how "inconsiderate" we bloody foreigners sometimes are:
1. addressing formats differ e.g.
in the UK: house number before street name
in the Netherlands or Germany: street name followed by house number

2. postal codes differ national and international, e.g.:
In the Netherlands they would use the local format: e.g. 1000 AE Amsterdam
Internationally you would be advised to use: NL-1000 AE Amsterdam

3. postal code + place differ, e.g.:
In the Netherlands: NL-1000 AE Amsterdam (on the same line)
In the UK: (some hamlet), Exeter, Devon, EX? ??? (usually on four different
lines, where the hamlet and county (Devon) may be omitted)

4. First name + Last name combinations differ, e.g.:
in Northern America and Europe: First Name before Last Name
in some Asian and Arabic countries the other way around.
The question is if the "Western" concept of first+last name applies
universally?

5. middle names differ, e.g.:
In the Netherlands: "Van den Bergh" would be sorted on "B" (unless the
person is of Anglo-American descent)
In the UK the same name would be sorted on "V"

6. First name (calling name) is not necessarily the first of the forenames.
This one is becoming more important recently, given more stringent visa
checking and security checks at airports.

7. Titles used in mail addressing differ, e.g. a female academic professor
mrs X with a PhD:
in the UK academic professors prefer to be addressed as: Professor X 
in some other European countries they are more happy with: Prof. Dr. Mrs. X
although they might differ on the dots (Prof. or Prof).

In short:
Name and Address probably should be treated as atomic attributes, only
differentiating the bulk of the data based on the most relevant conventions
and treating the rest as "non-standard".
standard name/address -> split in the usual (local) attributes
non-standard name/address -> no split but using the "addressing name"/full
address

Why should you care?
It all depends, e.g.
for judicial purposes you simply have to get it right according to the local
judicial principles, otherwise they have lost the case before they even get
to court
for marketing purposes your client probably doesn't want to put customers of
by wrong addressing, or even worse, by web forms that don't allow non-US
address formats (e.g. allowing Andorra as a country, while still insisting
on a US state as a required field)


Thanks for the question, I really like these puzzles which can only be
solved by some kind of a pragmatic choice.

Cheers

Harry



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Apr 25 19:20:14 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 20:20:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Zip + 4 + foreign phones
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAL9Kwp6bii0K2NXFiQtqufcKAAAAQAAAAWNHObF1uokiEHZl0t1tbhAEAAAAA@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPGEALHGAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Doesn't it just make you want to become part of the USA?

<grin, duck and run>

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Harry Coenen
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 1:44 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Zip + 4 + foreign phones


Hi Virginia

Just to show how "inconsiderate" we bloody foreigners sometimes are:
1. addressing formats differ e.g.
in the UK: house number before street name
in the Netherlands or Germany: street name followed by house number

2. postal codes differ national and international, e.g.:
In the Netherlands they would use the local format: e.g. 1000 AE Amsterdam
Internationally you would be advised to use: NL-1000 AE Amsterdam

3. postal code + place differ, e.g.:
In the Netherlands: NL-1000 AE Amsterdam (on the same line)
In the UK: (some hamlet), Exeter, Devon, EX? ??? (usually on four different
lines, where the hamlet and county (Devon) may be omitted)

4. First name + Last name combinations differ, e.g.:
in Northern America and Europe: First Name before Last Name
in some Asian and Arabic countries the other way around.
The question is if the "Western" concept of first+last name applies
universally?

5. middle names differ, e.g.:
In the Netherlands: "Van den Bergh" would be sorted on "B" (unless the
person is of Anglo-American descent)
In the UK the same name would be sorted on "V"

6. First name (calling name) is not necessarily the first of the forenames.
This one is becoming more important recently, given more stringent visa
checking and security checks at airports.

7. Titles used in mail addressing differ, e.g. a female academic professor
mrs X with a PhD:
in the UK academic professors prefer to be addressed as: Professor X
in some other European countries they are more happy with: Prof. Dr. Mrs. X
although they might differ on the dots (Prof. or Prof).

In short:
Name and Address probably should be treated as atomic attributes, only
differentiating the bulk of the data based on the most relevant conventions
and treating the rest as "non-standard".
standard name/address -> split in the usual (local) attributes
non-standard name/address -> no split but using the "addressing name"/full
address

Why should you care?
It all depends, e.g.
for judicial purposes you simply have to get it right according to the local
judicial principles, otherwise they have lost the case before they even get
to court
for marketing purposes your client probably doesn't want to put customers of
by wrong addressing, or even worse, by web forms that don't allow non-US
address formats (e.g. allowing Andorra as a country, while still insisting
on a US state as a required field)


Thanks for the question, I really like these puzzles which can only be
solved by some kind of a pragmatic choice.

Cheers

Harry

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From lmrazek at lcm-res.com  Sun Apr 25 19:22:34 2004
From: lmrazek at lcm-res.com (Lawrence Mrazek)
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 19:22:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP, Dbase Import error
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Message-ID: <001801c42b24$92e47800$036fa8c0@DellLaptop>

Hi:

I'm getting the following error message when trying to import a dbase file.
"The search key was not found in any record."  This only happens in Access
XP; for some reason, Access 97 imports the file without any problems. 

Has anyone encountered this error and if so, do you have any ideas on a
workaround?

Thanks in advance.

Larry Mrazek
LCM Research, Inc. 
ph. 314-432-5886
fx. 314-432-3304
lmrazek at lcm-res.com
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Apr 25 19:32:39 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 20:32:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP, Dbase Import error
In-Reply-To: <001801c42b24$92e47800$036fa8c0@DellLaptop>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPOEALHGAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Workaround...

Import it in A97.

<grin>



John W. Colby 
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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Mrazek
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 8:23 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP, Dbase Import error


Hi:

I'm getting the following error message when trying to import a dbase file.
"The search key was not found in any record."  This only happens in Access
XP; for some reason, Access 97 imports the file without any problems. 

Has anyone encountered this error and if so, do you have any ideas on a
workaround?

Thanks in advance.

Larry Mrazek
LCM Research, Inc. 
ph. 314-432-5886
fx. 314-432-3304
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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 26 00:22:49 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 22:22:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] OT SQL Question
In-Reply-To: <SIMEON.10404231137.B@TUG00001.fujin.qub.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <20040426052249.23200.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com>

Martin,
 
I've checked it out during the weekend (for a short while...it IS a weekend he). I don't see how you could create this using SQL. PERHAPS, using COMPUTE?! I'm not very familiar with this keyword.
 
To save a lot of time and (very) complex coding...just use a cursur. Add each value to a variable and use this in an insert statement.
 
Regards,
 
Sander
 
PS: Oracle to retrieve SQL-Server data....oi

Martin Reid <mwp.reid at queens-belfast.ac.uk> wrote:
Sander

See inline

Martin



> Martin,
> 
> can you please provide a little more info?
> WHY do you not want to use cursors?

No reason just wanted to try it using SQL but didnt seem 
possible without cursors. 

> Where does the output have to go to?

Into a table

> What format does it need to have?

see above

> What's the layout of the tables? (Send me the create table scripts...)

No problem will email them of line later on. That OK?

> 
> Sander
> 
> Martin Reid wrote:
> Tried the SQL Server list with this - no luck.
> 
> 
> Given a one to many relationship is it possible to produce this output using
> an SP without the use of cursors etc??
> 
> INPUT TABLE 1
> 
> 1000
> IT
> 
> 1000
> Databases
> 
> 1000
> VMS
> 
> 1001
> Spreadsheets
> 
> 1001
> GenStat
> 
> 1002
> Aquatic systems
> 
> 1002
> Research
> 
> 
> 
> 
> INPUT TABLE 2
> 
> 
> 
> 1000
> Smith
> 
> 1001
> Brown
> 
> 1002
> Foster
> 
> 
> 
> 
> OUTPUT REQUIRED
> 
> 1000
> Smith
> IT, Databases,VMS
> 
> 1001
> Brown
> Spreadsheets,GenStat
> 
> 1002
> Foster
> Aquatic Systems,Research
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Martin
> 
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From pharryecoenen at btinternet.com  Mon Apr 26 00:07:54 2004
From: pharryecoenen at btinternet.com (Harry Coenen)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 06:07:54 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Zip + 4 + foreign phones
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPGEALHGAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
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>
>Doesn't it just make you want to become part of the USA?

only if you (USA) accept ISO formats and ...eh ... human rights
>
><grin, duck and run>

I agree on that one
>
>John W. Colby

Harry



From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Mon Apr 26 06:21:39 2004
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 06:21:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] RE: Zip + 4 + foreign phones
Message-ID: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D683@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>

Thanks for all the suggestions - all I can say is Whew!

>  -----Original Message-----
> From: 	Hollis,Virginia  
> Sent:	Saturday, April 24, 2004 7:42 AM
> To:	'accessD at databaseadvisors.com'
> Subject:	Zip + 4 + foreign phones
> 
> Does anyone have the Zip Codes with the + 4? I have a table with 54,000
> zip codes - but the user wants the +4.
> 
> Also, I know there has been a lot of messages over the years about foreign
> (other countries besides US) phone numbers. This is the first time I have
> had to use foreign numbers. How are they formatted?
> 
> Oh, which makes me think - are foreign zip codes different too? Does
> anyone have a table with foreign zip codes too?
> 
> Virginia


From john at winhaven.net  Mon Apr 26 09:01:12 2004
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 09:01:12 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT jpeg lawsuit (was jpg Screen shot)
In-Reply-To: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE519@TAPPEEXCH01>
Message-ID: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKIKEHPFGAA.john@winhaven.net>

Speak of the devil, we just might start seeing an increase in the use of the
png format. These is a lawsuit concerning the jpeg patent rights and license
fees (ala SCO UNIX code in Linux?):

http://internetweek.com/e-business/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=19200171

John

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:34 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


Most Windows programs support PNG (Adobe Photoshop, Microsoft Photo Editor,
Internet Explorer, Irfanview, etc).  It just hasn't made it to the industry
standard realm the same way as other formats have.  (Magazines asking for
JPG files instead of PNGs for screenshots, for example).

I think you'd be hard pressed to find a current graphics file viewer that
doesn't support it.


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From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot

Brett:

Would it be a problem if you wanted to send a file to someone?  Is PNG
format supported by Windows or any of the popular viewers?

Rocky

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To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


> By far, the absolute best format for screenshots is PNG.  Near-infinite
> color range (handles 32-bit palettes with ease), lossless compression, and
> tiny file size.
>
> Unfortunately, it is open-source based so it hasn't made it to the
> mainstream like other more popular formats (GIF, JPG).
>
> I wrote a global error handler that automatically grabs a full screen shot
> of the users' workstation upon app failure and stores it as a PNG on the
> network.  Files range between 8KB and 25KB!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:23 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
> You should make this into an article.
>
> Thanks to everyone who helped.  I eventually used Irfanview which looks
like
> a very complete program.  Just got a note from the publisher - the jpg is
> fine.  Of course, in the magazine it's going to be probably no bigger than
> 2" x 2"
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
> > ...don't use any program that initially captures your screen as a jpeg
> ...I
> > won't go into the details here but when you save an image as a jpeg you
> are
> > using a lossy algorithm that throws away portions of the graphic ...its
> the
> > nature of the beast ...in order to give them the high quality jpeg they
> > need, start with a decent graphics program that lets you capture the
image
> > in a high quality, uncompressed format to begin with ...Photoshop and
> > paintshoppro are the mainstream programs ...I personally use
paintshoppro
> > (www.jasc.com) ...set your screen resolution to the highest resolution
> your
> > graphics card can support and make sure your image capture area is clean
> and
> > clear at that resolution ...capture the image and save it into un
> > uncompressed format, preferably the native format of your graphics
program
> > ...in paintshoppro that would give you an image with a .pspimage file
tag
> > ...using that image you can do all sorts of image enhancements to make
> your
> > saved image look better ...then resize it to 300dpi ...if you started at
a
> > much lower screen resolution you might wind up with too small an image
at
> > this point ...once the image is sized/cropped/enhanced just as you'd
like
> to
> > see it, use your graphics program's feature that optimizes it and saves
it
> > as a jpeg ...use zero compression (even though the jpeg will still have
> some
> > inherent image quality loss) and make sure that you use the comparison
> > feature to ensure minimal visible loss of image quality in the resulting
> > file.
> >
> > ...now you have a decent sized jpeg at the desired dpi that is the best
> that
> > you can present ...hth :)
> >
> > William Hindman
> > "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
> > a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> > To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:30 PM
> > Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
> >
> >
> > Dear List:
> >
> > A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it
to
> be
> > 300dpi.
> >
> > What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?
> >
> > MTIA,
> >
> > Rocky Smolin
> > Beach Access Software
> > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> >
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Mon Apr 26 09:09:21 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 10:09:21 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT jpeg lawsuit (was jpg Screen shot)
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA3082EECD@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB47A@ADGSERVER>

But, IIRC, the patent(s) run out near the end of 2004.  So I guess we'll
see.  Either way, the suing company has a bunch of (place favorite
expletives here) running it. 

Funny thing is, I thought the JPEG spec was designed (as is PNG) so as to
not infringe on any patents.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 10:01 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT jpeg lawsuit (was jpg Screen shot)


Speak of the devil, we just might start seeing an increase in the use of the
png format. These is a lawsuit concerning the jpeg patent rights and license
fees (ala SCO UNIX code in Linux?):

http://internetweek.com/e-business/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=19200171

John

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:34 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


Most Windows programs support PNG (Adobe Photoshop, Microsoft Photo Editor,
Internet Explorer, Irfanview, etc).  It just hasn't made it to the industry
standard realm the same way as other formats have.  (Magazines asking for
JPG files instead of PNGs for screenshots, for example).

I think you'd be hard pressed to find a current graphics file viewer that
doesn't support it.


-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot

Brett:

Would it be a problem if you wanted to send a file to someone?  Is PNG
format supported by Windows or any of the popular viewers?

Rocky

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


> By far, the absolute best format for screenshots is PNG.  
> Near-infinite color range (handles 32-bit palettes with ease), 
> lossless compression, and tiny file size.
>
> Unfortunately, it is open-source based so it hasn't made it to the 
> mainstream like other more popular formats (GIF, JPG).
>
> I wrote a global error handler that automatically grabs a full screen 
> shot of the users' workstation upon app failure and stores it as a PNG 
> on the network.  Files range between 8KB and 25KB!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:23 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
> You should make this into an article.
>
> Thanks to everyone who helped.  I eventually used Irfanview which 
> looks
like
> a very complete program.  Just got a note from the publisher - the jpg 
> is fine.  Of course, in the magazine it's going to be probably no 
> bigger than 2" x 2"
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
> > ...don't use any program that initially captures your screen as a 
> > jpeg
> ...I
> > won't go into the details here but when you save an image as a jpeg 
> > you
> are
> > using a lossy algorithm that throws away portions of the graphic 
> > ...its
> the
> > nature of the beast ...in order to give them the high quality jpeg 
> > they need, start with a decent graphics program that lets you 
> > capture the
image
> > in a high quality, uncompressed format to begin with ...Photoshop 
> > and paintshoppro are the mainstream programs ...I personally use
paintshoppro
> > (www.jasc.com) ...set your screen resolution to the highest 
> > resolution
> your
> > graphics card can support and make sure your image capture area is 
> > clean
> and
> > clear at that resolution ...capture the image and save it into un 
> > uncompressed format, preferably the native format of your graphics
program
> > ...in paintshoppro that would give you an image with a .pspimage 
> > file
tag
> > ...using that image you can do all sorts of image enhancements to 
> > make
> your
> > saved image look better ...then resize it to 300dpi ...if you 
> > started at
a
> > much lower screen resolution you might wind up with too small an 
> > image
at
> > this point ...once the image is sized/cropped/enhanced just as you'd
like
> to
> > see it, use your graphics program's feature that optimizes it and 
> > saves
it
> > as a jpeg ...use zero compression (even though the jpeg will still 
> > have
> some
> > inherent image quality loss) and make sure that you use the 
> > comparison feature to ensure minimal visible loss of image quality 
> > in the resulting file.
> >
> > ...now you have a decent sized jpeg at the desired dpi that is the 
> > best
> that
> > you can present ...hth :)
> >
> > William Hindman
> > "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your 
> > code is a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William 
> > Silverstein
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> > To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:30 PM
> > Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
> >
> >
> > Dear List:
> >
> > A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like 
> > it
to
> be
> > 300dpi.
> >
> > What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?
> >
> > MTIA,
> >
> > Rocky Smolin
> > Beach Access Software
> > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> >
>
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From john at winhaven.net  Mon Apr 26 09:20:15 2004
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 09:20:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT jpeg lawsuit (was jpg Screen shot)
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB47A@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKIEEIAFGAA.john@winhaven.net>

That is what I thought too. Fuzzy memories or fuzzy law suit?
;o)

John


Funny thing is, I thought the JPEG spec was designed (as is PNG) so as to
not infringe on any patents.

Bobby





From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Mon Apr 26 09:22:39 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 09:22:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT jpeg lawsuit (was jpg Screen shot)
Message-ID: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE548@TAPPEEXCH01>

I initially became interested in PNG after Unisys launched their LZW patents
against software companies offering GIF support.  I was under the mistaken
impression the jpeg was an open standard.  Guess not!

IMHO, PNG is a poor substitute for JPEG, as its compression works best on
images with large blocks of same colors (a la screenshots).  Not very
effective for photos.


-----Original Message-----
From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 9:01 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT jpeg lawsuit (was jpg Screen shot)

Speak of the devil, we just might start seeing an increase in the use of the
png format. These is a lawsuit concerning the jpeg patent rights and license
fees (ala SCO UNIX code in Linux?):

http://internetweek.com/e-business/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=19200171

John

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:34 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


Most Windows programs support PNG (Adobe Photoshop, Microsoft Photo Editor,
Internet Explorer, Irfanview, etc).  It just hasn't made it to the industry
standard realm the same way as other formats have.  (Magazines asking for
JPG files instead of PNGs for screenshots, for example).

I think you'd be hard pressed to find a current graphics file viewer that
doesn't support it.


-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot

Brett:

Would it be a problem if you wanted to send a file to someone?  Is PNG
format supported by Windows or any of the popular viewers?

Rocky

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


> By far, the absolute best format for screenshots is PNG.  Near-infinite
> color range (handles 32-bit palettes with ease), lossless compression, and
> tiny file size.
>
> Unfortunately, it is open-source based so it hasn't made it to the
> mainstream like other more popular formats (GIF, JPG).
>
> I wrote a global error handler that automatically grabs a full screen shot
> of the users' workstation upon app failure and stores it as a PNG on the
> network.  Files range between 8KB and 25KB!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:23 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
> You should make this into an article.
>
> Thanks to everyone who helped.  I eventually used Irfanview which looks
like
> a very complete program.  Just got a note from the publisher - the jpg is
> fine.  Of course, in the magazine it's going to be probably no bigger than
> 2" x 2"
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
> > ...don't use any program that initially captures your screen as a jpeg
> ...I
> > won't go into the details here but when you save an image as a jpeg you
> are
> > using a lossy algorithm that throws away portions of the graphic ...its
> the
> > nature of the beast ...in order to give them the high quality jpeg they
> > need, start with a decent graphics program that lets you capture the
image
> > in a high quality, uncompressed format to begin with ...Photoshop and
> > paintshoppro are the mainstream programs ...I personally use
paintshoppro
> > (www.jasc.com) ...set your screen resolution to the highest resolution
> your
> > graphics card can support and make sure your image capture area is clean
> and
> > clear at that resolution ...capture the image and save it into un
> > uncompressed format, preferably the native format of your graphics
program
> > ...in paintshoppro that would give you an image with a .pspimage file
tag
> > ...using that image you can do all sorts of image enhancements to make
> your
> > saved image look better ...then resize it to 300dpi ...if you started at
a
> > much lower screen resolution you might wind up with too small an image
at
> > this point ...once the image is sized/cropped/enhanced just as you'd
like
> to
> > see it, use your graphics program's feature that optimizes it and saves
it
> > as a jpeg ...use zero compression (even though the jpeg will still have
> some
> > inherent image quality loss) and make sure that you use the comparison
> > feature to ensure minimal visible loss of image quality in the resulting
> > file.
> >
> > ...now you have a decent sized jpeg at the desired dpi that is the best
> that
> > you can present ...hth :)
> >
> > William Hindman
> > "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
> > a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> > To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:30 PM
> > Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
> >
> >
> > Dear List:
> >
> > A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it
to
> be
> > 300dpi.
> >
> > What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?
> >
> > MTIA,
> >
> > Rocky Smolin
> > Beach Access Software
> > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> >
>
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From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Mon Apr 26 09:54:09 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 10:54:09 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT jpeg lawsuit (was jpg Screen shot)
References: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE548@TAPPEEXCH01>
Message-ID: <003f01c42b9e$546f6470$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...if there is any merit to this I'm hopeful that it will push earlier
adoption of the SVG format ...SVG is an open-standard vector graphics
language based on XML and has been developed by a working group of the W3C
...it produces readily scalable graphics with much smaller file size ...its
wide adoption would significantly improve the net in many ways. :)

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 10:22 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT jpeg lawsuit (was jpg Screen shot)


> I initially became interested in PNG after Unisys launched their LZW
patents
> against software companies offering GIF support.  I was under the mistaken
> impression the jpeg was an open standard.  Guess not!
>
> IMHO, PNG is a poor substitute for JPEG, as its compression works best on
> images with large blocks of same colors (a la screenshots).  Not very
> effective for photos.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 9:01 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT jpeg lawsuit (was jpg Screen shot)
>
> Speak of the devil, we just might start seeing an increase in the use of
the
> png format. These is a lawsuit concerning the jpeg patent rights and
license
> fees (ala SCO UNIX code in Linux?):
>
> http://internetweek.com/e-business/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=19200171
>
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:34 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
> Most Windows programs support PNG (Adobe Photoshop, Microsoft Photo
Editor,
> Internet Explorer, Irfanview, etc).  It just hasn't made it to the
industry
> standard realm the same way as other formats have.  (Magazines asking for
> JPG files instead of PNGs for screenshots, for example).
>
> I think you'd be hard pressed to find a current graphics file viewer that
> doesn't support it.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:28 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
> Brett:
>
> Would it be a problem if you wanted to send a file to someone?  Is PNG
> format supported by Windows or any of the popular viewers?
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:42 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
> > By far, the absolute best format for screenshots is PNG.  Near-infinite
> > color range (handles 32-bit palettes with ease), lossless compression,
and
> > tiny file size.
> >
> > Unfortunately, it is open-source based so it hasn't made it to the
> > mainstream like other more popular formats (GIF, JPG).
> >
> > I wrote a global error handler that automatically grabs a full screen
shot
> > of the users' workstation upon app failure and stores it as a PNG on the
> > network.  Files range between 8KB and 25KB!
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:23 AM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
> >
> > You should make this into an article.
> >
> > Thanks to everyone who helped.  I eventually used Irfanview which looks
> like
> > a very complete program.  Just got a note from the publisher - the jpg
is
> > fine.  Of course, in the magazine it's going to be probably no bigger
than
> > 2" x 2"
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Rocky Smolin
> > Beach Access Software
> > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:18 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
> >
> >
> > > ...don't use any program that initially captures your screen as a jpeg
> > ...I
> > > won't go into the details here but when you save an image as a jpeg
you
> > are
> > > using a lossy algorithm that throws away portions of the graphic
...its
> > the
> > > nature of the beast ...in order to give them the high quality jpeg
they
> > > need, start with a decent graphics program that lets you capture the
> image
> > > in a high quality, uncompressed format to begin with ...Photoshop and
> > > paintshoppro are the mainstream programs ...I personally use
> paintshoppro
> > > (www.jasc.com) ...set your screen resolution to the highest resolution
> > your
> > > graphics card can support and make sure your image capture area is
clean
> > and
> > > clear at that resolution ...capture the image and save it into un
> > > uncompressed format, preferably the native format of your graphics
> program
> > > ...in paintshoppro that would give you an image with a .pspimage file
> tag
> > > ...using that image you can do all sorts of image enhancements to make
> > your
> > > saved image look better ...then resize it to 300dpi ...if you started
at
> a
> > > much lower screen resolution you might wind up with too small an image
> at
> > > this point ...once the image is sized/cropped/enhanced just as you'd
> like
> > to
> > > see it, use your graphics program's feature that optimizes it and
saves
> it
> > > as a jpeg ...use zero compression (even though the jpeg will still
have
> > some
> > > inherent image quality loss) and make sure that you use the comparison
> > > feature to ensure minimal visible loss of image quality in the
resulting
> > > file.
> > >
> > > ...now you have a decent sized jpeg at the desired dpi that is the
best
> > that
> > > you can present ...hth :)
> > >
> > > William Hindman
> > > "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code
is
> > > a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> > > To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:30 PM
> > > Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear List:
> > >
> > > A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it
> to
> > be
> > > 300dpi.
> > >
> > > What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?
> > >
> > > MTIA,
> > >
> > > Rocky Smolin
> > > Beach Access Software
> > > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> > >
> >
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Apr 26 09:49:29 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 07:49:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT jpeg lawsuit (was jpg Screen shot)
In-Reply-To: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE548@TAPPEEXCH01>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLICEPHCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

PNG is suppose to be a replacement for GIF files not JPEG files.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 7:23 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT jpeg lawsuit (was jpg Screen shot)


I initially became interested in PNG after Unisys launched their LZW patents
against software companies offering GIF support.  I was under the mistaken
impression the jpeg was an open standard.  Guess not!

IMHO, PNG is a poor substitute for JPEG, as its compression works best on
images with large blocks of same colors (a la screenshots).  Not very
effective for photos.


-----Original Message-----
From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 9:01 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT jpeg lawsuit (was jpg Screen shot)

Speak of the devil, we just might start seeing an increase in the use of the
png format. These is a lawsuit concerning the jpeg patent rights and license
fees (ala SCO UNIX code in Linux?):

http://internetweek.com/e-business/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=19200171

John

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:34 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


Most Windows programs support PNG (Adobe Photoshop, Microsoft Photo Editor,
Internet Explorer, Irfanview, etc).  It just hasn't made it to the industry
standard realm the same way as other formats have.  (Magazines asking for
JPG files instead of PNGs for screenshots, for example).

I think you'd be hard pressed to find a current graphics file viewer that
doesn't support it.


-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot

Brett:

Would it be a problem if you wanted to send a file to someone?  Is PNG
format supported by Windows or any of the popular viewers?

Rocky

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


> By far, the absolute best format for screenshots is PNG.  Near-infinite
> color range (handles 32-bit palettes with ease), lossless compression, and
> tiny file size.
>
> Unfortunately, it is open-source based so it hasn't made it to the
> mainstream like other more popular formats (GIF, JPG).
>
> I wrote a global error handler that automatically grabs a full screen shot
> of the users' workstation upon app failure and stores it as a PNG on the
> network.  Files range between 8KB and 25KB!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:23 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
> You should make this into an article.
>
> Thanks to everyone who helped.  I eventually used Irfanview which looks
like
> a very complete program.  Just got a note from the publisher - the jpg is
> fine.  Of course, in the magazine it's going to be probably no bigger than
> 2" x 2"
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
> > ...don't use any program that initially captures your screen as a jpeg
> ...I
> > won't go into the details here but when you save an image as a jpeg you
> are
> > using a lossy algorithm that throws away portions of the graphic ...its
> the
> > nature of the beast ...in order to give them the high quality jpeg they
> > need, start with a decent graphics program that lets you capture the
image
> > in a high quality, uncompressed format to begin with ...Photoshop and
> > paintshoppro are the mainstream programs ...I personally use
paintshoppro
> > (www.jasc.com) ...set your screen resolution to the highest resolution
> your
> > graphics card can support and make sure your image capture area is clean
> and
> > clear at that resolution ...capture the image and save it into un
> > uncompressed format, preferably the native format of your graphics
program
> > ...in paintshoppro that would give you an image with a .pspimage file
tag
> > ...using that image you can do all sorts of image enhancements to make
> your
> > saved image look better ...then resize it to 300dpi ...if you started at
a
> > much lower screen resolution you might wind up with too small an image
at
> > this point ...once the image is sized/cropped/enhanced just as you'd
like
> to
> > see it, use your graphics program's feature that optimizes it and saves
it
> > as a jpeg ...use zero compression (even though the jpeg will still have
> some
> > inherent image quality loss) and make sure that you use the comparison
> > feature to ensure minimal visible loss of image quality in the resulting
> > file.
> >
> > ...now you have a decent sized jpeg at the desired dpi that is the best
> that
> > you can present ...hth :)
> >
> > William Hindman
> > "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
> > a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> > To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:30 PM
> > Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
> >
> >
> > Dear List:
> >
> > A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it
to
> be
> > 300dpi.
> >
> > What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?
> >
> > MTIA,
> >
> > Rocky Smolin
> > Beach Access Software
> > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> >
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From greggs at msn.com  Mon Apr 26 11:25:18 2004
From: greggs at msn.com (Gregg)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 11:25:18 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] List Box does not show all
In-Reply-To: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLICEPHCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <MOELIKDOANGCHBBIGOLIAEODECAA.greggs@msn.com>

What causes list boxes to no show the whole list?  Seems to come and go.  It
shows up on all users so it must be either the link to the BE or the BE
itself.  Any ideas?

Gregg Steinbrenner




From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Apr 26 12:09:41 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 12:09:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677201ABB3@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

For anyone who needs to activate a calendar from Excel John Walkenbach has
one of the most amazing calendars using a single array formula on p357 of
his Excel 2000 formulas book. Since I often use Excel worksheets as simple
interfaces to Access databases this native Excel calendar comes in very
handy.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 2:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion



I use the ADH calendar and trigger it on the double-click of any date text
box.  So they can still hand enter the date if they want.  Users seem to
like the convention once they get used to it.

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
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> From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 12:48 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
>
>
> > ...first ...I don't use the ODE Calendar Control because of a long
history
> > of versioning problems
> >
> > ===========I'm limited -- I write about what they want. :) So, when you
> > complain of versioning problems, what do you mean?
> >
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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Mon Apr 26 12:23:20 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 12:23:20 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: To Combine Child Records
In-Reply-To: <200404261700.i3QH0dQ30045@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040426121936.02baee58@pop3.highstream.net>

Actually, you can do this with 2 views combined in one and possible using a 
subquery.

You can create a SQL Server function that can give you the following:

1001, "Spreadsheets,GenStat"

Once you get that, it is a simple join to get the name added in.

Robert

P.S.  I covered the function that was required to do this in my last Access 
developer's workshop.  We did it in both Access and SQL Server.

At 12:00 PM 4/26/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 22:22:49 -0700 (PDT)
>From: S D <accessd667 at yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT SQL Question
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <20040426052249.23200.qmail at web61108.mail.yahoo.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>Martin,
>
>I've checked it out during the weekend (for a short while...it IS a 
>weekend he). I don't see how you could create this using SQL. PERHAPS, 
>using COMPUTE?! I'm not very familiar with this keyword.
>
>To save a lot of time and (very) complex coding...just use a cursur. Add 
>each value to a variable and use this in an insert statement.
>
>Regards,
>
>Sander
>
>PS: Oracle to retrieve SQL-Server data....oi
>
>Martin Reid <mwp.reid at queens-belfast.ac.uk> wrote:
>Sander
>
>See inline
>
>Martin
>
>
>
> > Martin,
> >
> > can you please provide a little more info?
> > WHY do you not want to use cursors?
>
>No reason just wanted to try it using SQL but didnt seem
>possible without cursors.
>
> > Where does the output have to go to?
>
>Into a table
>
> > What format does it need to have?
>
>see above
>
> > What's the layout of the tables? (Send me the create table scripts...)
>
>No problem will email them of line later on. That OK?
>
> >
> > Sander
> >
> > Martin Reid wrote:
> > Tried the SQL Server list with this - no luck.
> >
> >
> > Given a one to many relationship is it possible to produce this output 
> using
> > an SP without the use of cursors etc??
> >
> > INPUT TABLE 1
> >
> > 1000
> > IT
> >
> > 1000
> > Databases
> >
> > 1000
> > VMS
> >
> > 1001
> > Spreadsheets
> >
> > 1001
> > GenStat
> >
> > 1002
> > Aquatic systems
> >
> > 1002
> > Research
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > INPUT TABLE 2
> >
> >
> >
> > 1000
> > Smith
> >
> > 1001
> > Brown
> >
> > 1002
> > Foster
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > OUTPUT REQUIRED
> >
> > 1000
> > Smith
> > IT, Databases,VMS
> >
> > 1001
> > Brown
> > Spreadsheets,GenStat
> >
> > 1002
> > Foster
> > Aquatic Systems,Research
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Martin




From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Mon Apr 26 12:27:45 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 12:27:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: jpg Screen shot
In-Reply-To: <200404261700.i3QH0dQ30045@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040426122441.02acf750@pop3.highstream.net>

Tiny file size my foot!!!!  I had to convert all my PNG (Fireworks) files 
to GIF to get speed loading them as graphic buttons for a web site. 94k 
compared to 6k.

PNG was not a viable choice.

At 12:00 PM 4/26/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:42 AM
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
> > By far, the absolute best format for screenshots is PNG.  Near-infinite
> > color range (handles 32-bit palettes with ease), lossless compression, and
> > tiny file size.
> >




From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Mon Apr 26 13:05:22 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Developer)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 14:05:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] PrtDevMode in MDE
In-Reply-To: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLICEPHCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <000001c42bb9$14826310$6401a8c0@COA3>

I am trying to  force some values into prtdevmode in a report at
runtime, but the code ive always used for this requires the report to be
manipulated in design view, which wont work in an MDE.
Specifically, there is a custom paper size on the pc (11 x 8.5) that I
want to hard-code to the report
Is there any way to do this in an MDE?



From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Mon Apr 26 13:12:48 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 13:12:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] RE: jpg Screen shot
Message-ID: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE54B@TAPPEEXCH01>

Huh?!  I was talking about screenshots, not website buttons.
As I mentioned earlier, IMHO, 20-40 KB is tiny for a screenshot, considering
it displays 100% of the original quality.  I have yet to find another file
format that can top this.

Nevertheless, let's do a little test here.  Using Microsoft PhotoDraw 2000
(tried it with MS Photo Editor as well with reasonably similar results):

-----
Source: 66x109 pixel 24-bit photo bmp file (a poor choice for PNG
compression)
Original BMP: 21,854 bytes
PNG (24-bit color): 10,128 bytes
PNG (8-bit 256 color): 3,052 bytes
GIF (8-bit 256 color): 3,118 bytes
(both the 8 bit PNG and the 8 bit GIF looked awful i.e. loss of photo
detail/color)
-----

-----
Source: 61x41 pixel 16 color toolbar button (a perfect choice for PNG
compression)
Original BMP: 9,438 bytes
PNG (24-bit color): 391 bytes
PNG (8-bit 256 color): 1,084 bytes
GIF (8-bit 256 color): 1,129 bytes
(results were identical.  In this case, the 24-bit pallette netted a smaller
file size, since there were only 4 distinct colors in the photo.  The 256
color pallette wasted the additional overhead).
-----

Keep the following in mind:
- Photos are poor candidates for PNG/zlib compression.  PNG works best for
files with large blocks of the same color (e.g. screenshots).
- All programs are not created equally.  Despite LIBPNG being offered to
software vendors and the general public with a free no strings attached
commercial license, there are several apps that do a half-assed job of
handling PNG files *cough IE*.

What program are you using to convert to PNG?


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert L. Stewart [mailto:rl_stewart at highstream.net]
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 12:28 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Cc: BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com
Subject: Re: jpg Screen shot


Tiny file size my foot!!!!  I had to convert all my PNG (Fireworks) files 
to GIF to get speed loading them as graphic buttons for a web site. 94k 
compared to 6k.

PNG was not a viable choice.

At 12:00 PM 4/26/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:42 AM
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
> > By far, the absolute best format for screenshots is PNG.  Near-infinite
> > color range (handles 32-bit palettes with ease), lossless compression,
and
> > tiny file size.
> >



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From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca  Mon Apr 26 13:19:04 2004
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 14:19:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] RE: jpg Screen shot
Message-ID: <s08d1a6a.067@cbc.ca>

OK Folks.

While all this talk of jpgs, pngs and image formats is interesting, it
really belongs over on dba-tech

http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech if you aren't
already subscribed to dba-tech.

Bryan Carbonnell
bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca
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From john at winhaven.net  Mon Apr 26 13:22:13 2004
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 13:22:13 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: jpg Screen shot
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040426122441.02acf750@pop3.highstream.net>
Message-ID: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKICEIFFGAA.john@winhaven.net>

I haven't seen that big of a difference in file size myself. I use Adobe
products and the size is usually larger on average, by maybe 15%. It could
be that your software isn't doing a good job of conversion or the settings
are not quite right.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Robert L.
Stewart
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 12:28 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Cc: BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: jpg Screen shot


Tiny file size my foot!!!!  I had to convert all my PNG (Fireworks) files
to GIF to get speed loading them as graphic buttons for a web site. 94k
compared to 6k.

PNG was not a viable choice.

At 12:00 PM 4/26/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:42 AM
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
> > By far, the absolute best format for screenshots is PNG.  Near-infinite
> > color range (handles 32-bit palettes with ease), lossless compression,
and
> > tiny file size.
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Mon Apr 26 13:30:55 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 13:30:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227B16@main2.marlow.com>

Yep, it's on my website.  http://www.wolfwares.com

Drew

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Steve
Capistrant
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 8:49 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion


Drew, is it still possible to get a copy of your OLD version in the
meantime?

Steve Capistrant
Symphony Information Services
scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
www.symphonyinfo.com
Phone: 763-391-7400
7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132, Brooklyn Park, MN 55428

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 9:48 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion


You're quite welcome.  As soon as life settles down, I'll finish up the new
version.  Which is keyboard friendly too!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 5:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion


> I use a modified version of Drew's old mini-calendar which is all VBA,
dead reliable, and very fast.
Ditto (and thanks to Drew)

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



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From Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com  Mon Apr 26 14:45:14 2004
From: Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com (Lavsa, Rich)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 15:45:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls AND TIME Controls
Message-ID: <833956F5C117124A89417638FDB11290EBD156@goexchange.pghcorning.com>

I always hear about Calendar Controls and have used a few of them.  I was
wondering if anyone out there has a Time control.  I have a very time
sensitive application where the technicians have to enter Date and Time on
and Date and Time off.  The time is essential to knowing how long the piece
ran with or without defects in the product to know whether to fix it or use
that mold as a template for others if it was working properly over a long
period of time (long could be 16+ hours due to the harsh environment).  

Anyway, back to my question.  I have a Date/Time field for ON and OFF,
currently I have a text box that is populated with a pop up calendar or by
typing in text, works great.  I also have another unbound field that is used
purely for Time entry, of which the user must type it in as ##:## AM/PM,
then upon exit it concatenates that information with the Date information to
make a complete Date/Time field.. Does anyone know of a Time control or a
better way to achieve this type of functionality other then the Date and
Time Active X control.

Thanks in Advance,
Rich



From markamatte at hotmail.com  Mon Apr 26 15:11:35 2004
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 20:11:35 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Help with locked table?
Message-ID: <BAY1-F33x82xWpFacOy0000c70a@hotmail.com>

Hello All,

I have an A97 db that I cannot compact...message reads that either I or 
someone else is trying to edit the same data...I have isolated it to 1 
table.  I can copy the entire db...but I cannot import/copy/export...this 
one table without getting the same error.

I ran the Repair successfully...and still have the issue...

Any ideas/suggestions?

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Mon Apr 26 15:23:15 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 15:23:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls AND TIME Controls
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227B19@main2.marlow.com>

Well if you can wait, the next item I'm adding to the beta version of my
MiniCalendar is a time/clock portion.

No idea when I'll have it done though...not very timely I guess! LOL

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Lavsa, Rich
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 2:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls AND TIME Controls


I always hear about Calendar Controls and have used a few of them.  I was
wondering if anyone out there has a Time control.  I have a very time
sensitive application where the technicians have to enter Date and Time on
and Date and Time off.  The time is essential to knowing how long the piece
ran with or without defects in the product to know whether to fix it or use
that mold as a template for others if it was working properly over a long
period of time (long could be 16+ hours due to the harsh environment).  

Anyway, back to my question.  I have a Date/Time field for ON and OFF,
currently I have a text box that is populated with a pop up calendar or by
typing in text, works great.  I also have another unbound field that is used
purely for Time entry, of which the user must type it in as ##:## AM/PM,
then upon exit it concatenates that information with the Date information to
make a complete Date/Time field.. Does anyone know of a Time control or a
better way to achieve this type of functionality other then the Date and
Time Active X control.

Thanks in Advance,
Rich

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From ranthony at wrsystems.com  Mon Apr 26 15:24:56 2004
From: ranthony at wrsystems.com (ranthony at wrsystems.com)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 16:24:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Help with locked table?
Message-ID: <5F21A4E8B8DD734992EF9E70AC9D3064128B9E@mail2.wrsystems.com>

Mark, your problems may be exacerbated by using the A97 repair utility.
Download the Jetcomp.exe utility by M$ and repair/compact with that.  Worse
case, you may have to use the /decompile switch.

Randy

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark A Matte [mailto:markamatte at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 4:12 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Help with locked table?

Hello All,

I have an A97 db that I cannot compact...message reads that either I or 
someone else is trying to edit the same data...I have isolated it to 1 
table.  I can copy the entire db...but I cannot import/copy/export...this 
one table without getting the same error.

I ran the Repair successfully...and still have the issue...

Any ideas/suggestions?

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

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From Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com  Mon Apr 26 15:39:48 2004
From: Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com (Pickering, Stephen)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 15:39:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Help with locked table?
Message-ID: <CF0EA31794DDD611ADDC00065B88640C039A2FA7@s98027.psd.caremark.int>

Mark,

Does the table have any OLE or Memo fields?  If you look through the data,
do you see any fields with "#Error" as the data?

Steve

-----Mark A Matte's Original Message-----

Hello All,

I have an A97 db that I cannot compact...message reads that either I or 
someone else is trying to edit the same data...I have isolated it to 1 
table.  I can copy the entire db...but I cannot import/copy/export...this 
one table without getting the same error.

I ran the Repair successfully...and still have the issue...

Any ideas/suggestions?

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte


From tortise at paradise.net.nz  Mon Apr 26 15:37:21 2004
From: tortise at paradise.net.nz (Tortise)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 08:37:21 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Help with locked table?
References: <BAY1-F33x82xWpFacOy0000c70a@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <0d2201c42bce$466e7d40$1e00a8c0@cheqsoft.local>

Dear Mark
Out of interest does that table contain a memo field?  The only one by chance?
Kind regards
David Hingston MB ChB MBA
Director
Chequers Software Ltd
Wellington, New Zealand.
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mark A Matte 
  To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 8:11 AM
  Subject: [AccessD] Help with locked table?


  Hello All,

  I have an A97 db that I cannot compact...message reads that either I or 
  someone else is trying to edit the same data...I have isolated it to 1 
  table.  I can copy the entire db...but I cannot import/copy/export...this 
  one table without getting the same error.

  I ran the Repair successfully...and still have the issue...

  Any ideas/suggestions?

  Thanks,

  Mark A. Matte

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From pedro at plex.nl  Mon Apr 26 16:07:19 2004
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 23:07:19 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase
References: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227B08@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <000701c42bd3$948451d0$f4c581d5@pedro>

Hello Drew,

thanks for your help. After changing:  Dim rs As Recordset    to   Dim rs As
DAO.Recordset    everything worked perfect.

Pedro Janssen

----- Original Message -----
From: <DWUTKA at marlow.com>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 12:32 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase


> How's this?
>
> Function SetAllDataToProperCase()
> Dim tbldef As TableDef
> Dim strSQL As String
> Dim rs As Recordset
> Dim i As Long
> Dim FieldCheck As Boolean
> For Each tbldef In CurrentDb.TableDefs
>     If Left(tbldef.Name, 4) <> "MSys" Then
>         'Set a boolean to make sure we have fields to actually update
>         FieldCheck = False
>         strSQL = "UPDATE " & tbldef.Name & " SET "
>         Set rs = CurrentDb.OpenRecordset(tbldef.Name, dbOpenTable)
>         For i = 0 To rs.Fields.Count - 1
>             If rs.Fields(i).Type = 10 Or rs.Fields(i).Type = 12 Then
>                 'we have a valid field
>                 FieldCheck = True
>                 strSQL = strSQL & "[" & rs.Fields(i).Name & "]=StrConv(["
&
> rs.Fields(i).Name & "],3), "
>             End If
>         Next i
>         If FieldCheck Then
>             strSQL = Left(strSQL, Len(strSQL) - 2)
>             CurrentDb.Execute strSQL
>         End If
>     End If
> Next
> MsgBox "Done"
> End Function
>
> That will change ALL text data in your database (text and memo fields)
>
> Drew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 4:54 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase
>
>
> Hello Drew,
>
> how can i use this so that it sets all characters in all tables in a
> database?
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <DWUTKA at marlow.com>
> To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 9:34 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase
>
>
> > StrConv("this is a test",vbProperCase)
> >
> >
> > results in:
> >
> >
> > This Is A Test
> >
> > Drew
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 2:09 PM
> > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase
> >
> >
> > Hello Group,
> >
> > i have a code (thanks to Brett Barabash and Mark A Matte) that sets all
> > characters in all tables to Lowercase.
> >
> > What i also would like to see is each character at the beginning of a
word
> > (each word that is separated by a space) is set to Uppercase in all
Tables
> > by just one code.
> > Is this possible. Who can help me with this?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Pedro Janssen
> > --
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Mon Apr 26 16:30:19 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 16:30:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227B1B@main2.marlow.com>

Sorry, wrote it in 97....and on the fly, so I wasn't as careful as I should
have been.

<grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 4:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase


Hello Drew,

thanks for your help. After changing:  Dim rs As Recordset    to   Dim rs As
DAO.Recordset    everything worked perfect.

Pedro Janssen

----- Original Message -----
From: <DWUTKA at marlow.com>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 12:32 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase


> How's this?
>
> Function SetAllDataToProperCase()
> Dim tbldef As TableDef
> Dim strSQL As String
> Dim rs As Recordset
> Dim i As Long
> Dim FieldCheck As Boolean
> For Each tbldef In CurrentDb.TableDefs
>     If Left(tbldef.Name, 4) <> "MSys" Then
>         'Set a boolean to make sure we have fields to actually update
>         FieldCheck = False
>         strSQL = "UPDATE " & tbldef.Name & " SET "
>         Set rs = CurrentDb.OpenRecordset(tbldef.Name, dbOpenTable)
>         For i = 0 To rs.Fields.Count - 1
>             If rs.Fields(i).Type = 10 Or rs.Fields(i).Type = 12 Then
>                 'we have a valid field
>                 FieldCheck = True
>                 strSQL = strSQL & "[" & rs.Fields(i).Name & "]=StrConv(["
&
> rs.Fields(i).Name & "],3), "
>             End If
>         Next i
>         If FieldCheck Then
>             strSQL = Left(strSQL, Len(strSQL) - 2)
>             CurrentDb.Execute strSQL
>         End If
>     End If
> Next
> MsgBox "Done"
> End Function
>
> That will change ALL text data in your database (text and memo fields)
>
> Drew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 4:54 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase
>
>
> Hello Drew,
>
> how can i use this so that it sets all characters in all tables in a
> database?
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <DWUTKA at marlow.com>
> To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 9:34 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase
>
>
> > StrConv("this is a test",vbProperCase)
> >
> >
> > results in:
> >
> >
> > This Is A Test
> >
> > Drew
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 2:09 PM
> > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase
> >
> >
> > Hello Group,
> >
> > i have a code (thanks to Brett Barabash and Mark A Matte) that sets all
> > characters in all tables to Lowercase.
> >
> > What i also would like to see is each character at the beginning of a
word
> > (each word that is separated by a space) is set to Uppercase in all
Tables
> > by just one code.
> > Is this possible. Who can help me with this?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Pedro Janssen
> > --
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> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
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> >
> >
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Apr 26 16:15:16 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 14:15:16 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] PrtDevMode in MDE
References: <000001c42bb9$14826310$6401a8c0@COA3>
Message-ID: <408D7BE4.8020002@shaw.ca>

You might have a look at On the Fly Printing
 for Access from Attac Software
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/attac-cg/acgsoft.htm

Developer wrote:

>I am trying to  force some values into prtdevmode in a report at
>runtime, but the code ive always used for this requires the report to be
>manipulated in design view, which wont work in an MDE.
>Specifically, there is a custom paper size on the pc (11 x 8.5) that I
>want to hard-code to the report
>Is there any way to do this in an MDE?
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Apr 26 17:35:49 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 15:35:49 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] List Box does not show all
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8632C556@infoserver01.infostat.local>

How many rows are you trying to display?  Are you pushing the maximum
that a listbox will display?  Does it fix itself or does the user have
to reconnect to the BE?  I've seen odd behavior like that over a network
with a flaky card in one machine, but I've also seen it when the
machines had different service packs of Jet installed.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Gregg [mailto:greggs at msn.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 8:25 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] List Box does not show all


What causes list boxes to no show the whole list?  Seems to come and go.
It shows up on all users so it must be either the link to the BE or the
BE itself.  Any ideas?

Gregg Steinbrenner


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Apr 26 19:55:53 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 17:55:53 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] RE: jpg Screen shot
In-Reply-To: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE54B@TAPPEEXCH01>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIOEPLCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

I have found that GIF and PNG files are virtually identical in compression
size. I used Fireworks to compress files and had little difference in size
or quality but...If you have to use screen shots, that have many tonal
colours GIF/PNG files are not the correct format.

The method that I use rendering large graphics objects smaller is:
1. Acquire all pictures at the largest format possible, in the best standard
available, say in TIFF.
2. Never reduce greater than 50% without applying the 'Unsharp Mask'.
3. Reduce more, apply the mask and so on until the graphic is the right
size.
4. Translate the object to either GIF or JPEG.

I use Fireworks but I understand that ImageReady is equally as good. FW has
a great export wizard, for optimizing the graphics for web use and I can see
both the JPEG, GIF PNG results, side by side. The end result byte size can
be preselected, the displayed images can be zoomed in and carefully checked
and different what-if scenarios can be viewed, picking the number of
colours, anti-aliasing, optimization, sharping, unused color removal,
compression, adaptive colouring etc... I am still learning but the results
are getting better all the time.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 11:13 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] RE: jpg Screen shot


Huh?!  I was talking about screenshots, not website buttons.
As I mentioned earlier, IMHO, 20-40 KB is tiny for a screenshot, considering
it displays 100% of the original quality.  I have yet to find another file
format that can top this.

Nevertheless, let's do a little test here.  Using Microsoft PhotoDraw 2000
(tried it with MS Photo Editor as well with reasonably similar results):

-----
Source: 66x109 pixel 24-bit photo bmp file (a poor choice for PNG
compression)
Original BMP: 21,854 bytes
PNG (24-bit color): 10,128 bytes
PNG (8-bit 256 color): 3,052 bytes
GIF (8-bit 256 color): 3,118 bytes
(both the 8 bit PNG and the 8 bit GIF looked awful i.e. loss of photo
detail/color)
-----

-----
Source: 61x41 pixel 16 color toolbar button (a perfect choice for PNG
compression)
Original BMP: 9,438 bytes
PNG (24-bit color): 391 bytes
PNG (8-bit 256 color): 1,084 bytes
GIF (8-bit 256 color): 1,129 bytes
(results were identical.  In this case, the 24-bit pallette netted a smaller
file size, since there were only 4 distinct colors in the photo.  The 256
color pallette wasted the additional overhead).
-----

Keep the following in mind:
- Photos are poor candidates for PNG/zlib compression.  PNG works best for
files with large blocks of the same color (e.g. screenshots).
- All programs are not created equally.  Despite LIBPNG being offered to
software vendors and the general public with a free no strings attached
commercial license, there are several apps that do a half-assed job of
handling PNG files *cough IE*.

What program are you using to convert to PNG?


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert L. Stewart [mailto:rl_stewart at highstream.net]
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 12:28 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Cc: BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com
Subject: Re: jpg Screen shot


Tiny file size my foot!!!!  I had to convert all my PNG (Fireworks) files
to GIF to get speed loading them as graphic buttons for a web site. 94k
compared to 6k.

PNG was not a viable choice.

At 12:00 PM 4/26/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:42 AM
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
> > By far, the absolute best format for screenshots is PNG.  Near-infinite
> > color range (handles 32-bit palettes with ease), lossless compression,
and
> > tiny file size.
> >



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From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Mon Apr 26 21:20:54 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Developer)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 22:20:54 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] PrtDevMode in MDE
In-Reply-To: <408D7BE4.8020002@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <001b01c42bfe$48196d50$6401a8c0@COA3>


Thanks, Marty.
Being that this project is in A2k2 I was able to use the Report's
Printers collection and properties.  This article was a project-saver:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/access/codesamples/defaul
t.aspx?pull=/library/en-us/dnacc2k2/html/odc_acc10_printers.asp

Steve




-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 5:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] PrtDevMode in MDE


You might have a look at On the Fly Printing
 for Access from Attac Software
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/attac-cg/acgsoft.htm

Developer wrote:

>I am trying to  force some values into prtdevmode in a report at 
>runtime, but the code ive always used for this requires the report to 
>be manipulated in design view, which wont work in an MDE. Specifically,

>there is a custom paper size on the pc (11 x 8.5) that I want to 
>hard-code to the report Is there any way to do this in an MDE?
>
>  
>

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Apr 27 00:08:28 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 22:08:28 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K MDE on A2002
References: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPGEAFHGAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <031b01c42c15$ae162a00$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

John:

Thanks. Will forward to my client so he can be aware of this problem.

Regards,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 5:19 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K MDE on A2002


> Rocky,
>
> I think that this is exactly what is going on.  I use a lib as you know.
At
> one client I have a mix of systems running A2K, AXP and A2003.  I develop
in
> A2K.  The non A2K systems REQUIRE a recompile of the lib AND the MDB that
> uses the lib before they will run.  I get a page fault otherwise.
>
> I do know that AXP and above install a new version of VB6.  It appears
that
> this new DLL "breaks" the A2K apps.  Recompiling with AXP uses that VB6
DLL
> and "fixes" whatever the problem is.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 1:59 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] A2K MDE on A2002
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> I had a client call this morning installing a system at a customer site.
He
> took the mdb which was created in A2000, made an mde in A2000, then put
that
> mde on the customer's machine which was running A2002.  It failed on
opening
> the first form with an error that indicated either a compile error or a
> missing reference.
>
> So I had him put the A2000 mdb on the A2002 machine.  Compiled fine.  No
> missing references.  But the 'Make an MDE' button was grayed out.  So I
had
> him convert this A2000 MDB to A2003.  Then he could make an MDE and it ran
> just fine.
>
> So is it the case that an A2000 MDE will not run on A2002 (or A2003)?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Apr 26 23:36:04 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 14:36:04 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Getting incorrect date
Message-ID: <01cb01c42c11$2682f7c0$48619a89@DDICK>

Hello all
Can anyone tell me why dtTimeElapsed  is returning a crap date around 1900 or so?
dtStartDate returns the expected date as does dtTodaysDate 
Many thanks

Darren

Dim dtStartDate As Date
Dim dtTodaysDate As Date
Dim dtTimeElapsed As Date

dtStartDate = DLookup("[EnrolmentDate]", "tblStudentAwardAllocations", "[AwardID] = " _
    & Forms!frmStudents!cmbAwards)
dtTodaysDate = Date
dtTimeElapsed = Format(DateDiff("y", [dtTodaysDate], [dtStartDate]), "m")

MsgBox "EnrolDate = " & dtStartDate & vbCrLf _
& "Today = " & dtTodaysDate & vbCrLf _
& "elapsed = " & dtTimeElapsed


From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Tue Apr 27 03:28:47 2004
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 10:28:47 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] OT - ASP & HTML Logon
Message-ID: <16160288.1083054527817.JavaMail.www@wwinf3004>

To all,
 
Really sorry for the OT but don?t know any good ASP/HTML lists.
 
I am starting to get into writing HTML & ASP (gulp), I have created a HTML logon page (very very very basic) which when you click the Submit button calls an ASP page called CheckLogin.asp (see HTML code below):
 
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<title>Orridge Reporting Logon</title>
</HEAD>
<BODY>
      <FORM METHOD=Post ACTION="CheckLogin.asp">
      Username: <INPUT TYPE=Text NAME="Username">
      <P>
      Password: <INPUT TYPE=Password NAME="Password">
      <P>
      <INPUT TYPE=Reset> <INPUT TYPE=Submit>
      </FORM>
</BODY>
</HTML>
 
The problem being that when the submit button is pressed it tries to download the page instead of checking the username against my database.  Does anyone know what the problem could be ?
 
Thanks in advance for any help on this.
 
Paul Hartland
Database Designer/Developer (and a total novice in WEB development).
Join the UK's number one for the internet 
www.freeserve.com/time

From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 27 03:52:22 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 10:52:22 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Getting incorrect date
In-Reply-To: <01cb01c42c11$2682f7c0$48619a89@DDICK>
References: <01cb01c42c11$2682f7c0$48619a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <7910230741.20040427105222@cactus.dk>

Hi Darren

DateDiff("y", ..) - or rather DateDiff("d", ..) - returns a number of
days. That is not a date.

If you wish a difference in months, use DateDiff("m", ..). However,
that will return one month even if the first date is the last day of
one month and the second date is the first day of the next month. If
you need the count of full months, I have a function which does that.

/gustav


> Can anyone tell me why dtTimeElapsed  is returning a crap date around 1900 or so?
> dtStartDate returns the expected date as does dtTodaysDate 
> Many thanks

> Darren

> Dim dtStartDate As Date
> Dim dtTodaysDate As Date
> Dim dtTimeElapsed As Date

> dtStartDate = DLookup("[EnrolmentDate]", "tblStudentAwardAllocations", "[AwardID] = " _
>     & Forms!frmStudents!cmbAwards)
> dtTodaysDate = Date
> dtTimeElapsed = Format(DateDiff("y", [dtTodaysDate], [dtStartDate]), "m")

> MsgBox "EnrolDate = " & dtStartDate & vbCrLf _
> & "Today = " & dtTodaysDate & vbCrLf _
> & "elapsed = " & dtTimeElapsed



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 27 05:29:58 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 20:29:58 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Getting incorrect date
In-Reply-To: <01cb01c42c11$2682f7c0$48619a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <408EC2C6.4554.2E3D660@localhost>

On 27 Apr 2004 at 14:36, Darren DICK wrote:

> Hello all
> Can anyone tell me why dtTimeElapsed  is returning a crap date around 1900 or so?
> dtStartDate returns the expected date as does dtTodaysDate 
> Many thanks
> 
> 
> Dim dtStartDate As Date
> Dim dtTodaysDate As Date
> Dim dtTimeElapsed As Date
> 

Because an elapsed period is not a date. It is a number.  DateDiff() returns *number* of time periods
Dim dtTimeElapsed as a long  to get the number of  the time periods specified by the first paramter of DateDiff.


 
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From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 27 05:51:39 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 06:51:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access Address to Map in Browser
References: <408EC2C6.4554.2E3D660@localhost>
Message-ID: <000b01c42c45$9ea3d880$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

Group

...in Outlook, I can  open a map of a contact's address in a browser
directly from Outlook as follows:

a) select Contacts on the Outlook Bar or in the folder list.
b) select contact whose address I want to locate.
c) File/Open/Selected Items.
d) Under the Address button, click the arrow, and then click the type of
address I want to find on the map (Business/Home/Other).
e) Actions/Display Map of Address.

...my browser opens to Find a Map at mappoint.msn.com with a push-pin
marking the location of the address.

...has anyone done anything like this via code from Access? ...without using
Outlook?

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein




From rbgajewski at adelphia.net  Tue Apr 27 07:16:41 2004
From: rbgajewski at adelphia.net (Bob Gajewski)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 08:16:41 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access Address to Map in Browser
In-Reply-To: <000b01c42c45$9ea3d880$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
Message-ID: <LHEEKEKNLFONONKPIOCJGEEKGEAA.rbgajewski@adelphia.net>

William

I have a jobs database that creates automatic hyperlinked command buttons
with specific labels that can go to a map system (I think it's Yahoo, not
Mapquest, but the theory is the same) and to the local weather for that
address.

I will post the code in about an hour or so, after my client meeting this
morning.

Regards,
Bob Gajewski


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Hindman
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 06:52
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access Address to Map in Browser


Group

...in Outlook, I can  open a map of a contact's address in a browser
directly from Outlook as follows:

a) select Contacts on the Outlook Bar or in the folder list.
b) select contact whose address I want to locate.
c) File/Open/Selected Items.
d) Under the Address button, click the arrow, and then click the type of
address I want to find on the map (Business/Home/Other).
e) Actions/Display Map of Address.

...my browser opens to Find a Map at mappoint.msn.com with a push-pin
marking the location of the address.

...has anyone done anything like this via code from Access? ...without using
Outlook?

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


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From michael.broesdorf at web.de  Tue Apr 27 07:33:01 2004
From: michael.broesdorf at web.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Michael_Br=F6sdorf?=)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 14:33:01 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Strange problem with reports
In-Reply-To: <LHEEKEKNLFONONKPIOCJGEEKGEAA.rbgajewski@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <NEBBIILOPOPJBCLJIJHHOENBFGAA.michael.broesdorf@web.de>

Hi all,

I am having a strange problem with reports in an Access 2003 application:

The app is running on a Citrix Metaframe XP server. The report is opened in
print preview. If I change something in the page setup (e.g. paper size or
margins), an error message shows up when the report is closed or saves
(CTRL-S):

'You can't set the Event Proc Prefix property in print preview or after
printing has started.
Try setting this property in the OnOpen event.'

None of my code tries to change that property.

What could that be?

Michael



From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Apr 27 08:49:53 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 13:49:53 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access Address to Map in Browser
Message-ID: <20040427124951.1F9BD25362F@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Yep, but I'm afraid it uses the Map24.Com website which is good for Europe
but not the US. I have a country table which holds the Map24 country code
(some differ from mine) in CT_MAPCODE. So I pass the routine my country code
and the Postal Code and, optionally, a description (eg company name) which
appears at the top of the map. It then plugs this info into the Map24
plotting URL and bob's your uncle.

FWIW here's the function (watch the wrapping):

Function MapIt(strCountry As String, varPcode As Variant, Optional varDesc
As String)
Dim varMapCode As Variant
Dim strLink As String

If Not IsNull(varPcode) Then
varMapCode = DLookup("CT_MAPCODE", "CTRY", "CT_CODE='" & strCountry & "'")
If Not IsNull(varMapCode) Then
strLink = "http://link2.map24.com/?lid=0cb4a937&maptype=JAVA&street0=&zip0="
& varPcode & "&city0=&country0=" & varMapCode & "&description0=" & varDesc &
"&lang=en"
Call RunApp(strLink, 1)
End If
End If
End Function

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From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
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To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] Access Address to Map in Browser
Date: 27/04/04 10:53

>
> Group
>
> ....in Outlook, I can  open a map of a contact's address in a browser
> directly from Outlook as follows:
>
> a) select Contacts on the Outlook Bar or in the folder list.
> b) select contact whose address I want to locate.
> c) File/Open/Selected Items.
> d) Under the Address button, click the arrow, and then click the type of
> address I want to find on the map (Business/Home/Other).
> e) Actions/Display Map of Address.
>
> ....my browser opens to Find a Map at mappoint.msn.com with a push-pin
> marking the location of the address.
>
> ....has anyone done anything like this via code from Access? ...without
using
> Outlook?
>
> William Hindman
> &quot;Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code
is
> a violent psychopath who knows where you live.&quot; William Silverstein
>
>
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Tue Apr 27 08:58:14 2004
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 09:58:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Strange problem with reports
Message-ID: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF407AD8231@xlivmbx12.aig.com>

When weird stuff like that starts happening I say, back up the database and
then decompile it. If that does not solve the problem then it's probably
time to start a new database and import all the objects in you problem
database. The report in question may be corrupt and so may not import. It
will have to be rebuilt from scratch.

FWIW

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Michael Br?sdorf [SMTP:michael.broesdorf at web.de]
> Sent:	Tuesday, April 27, 2004 8:33 AM
> To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject:	[AccessD] Strange problem with reports
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I am having a strange problem with reports in an Access 2003 application:
> 
> The app is running on a Citrix Metaframe XP server. The report is opened
> in
> print preview. If I change something in the page setup (e.g. paper size or
> margins), an error message shows up when the report is closed or saves
> (CTRL-S):
> 
> 'You can't set the Event Proc Prefix property in print preview or after
> printing has started.
> Try setting this property in the OnOpen event.'
> 
> None of my code tries to change that property.
> 
> What could that be?
> 
> Michael
> 
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From greggs at msn.com  Tue Apr 27 09:25:01 2004
From: greggs at msn.com (Gregg)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 09:25:01 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] List Box does not show all
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8632C556@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <MOELIKDOANGCHBBIGOLIGEPEECAA.greggs@msn.com>

The list box is trying to display 36 rows but only shows 23.  The query
behind the list is showing 36.  It's seven columns wide.  I thinks all users
are using the same version of A97.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 5:36 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] List Box does not show all


How many rows are you trying to display?  Are you pushing the maximum
that a listbox will display?  Does it fix itself or does the user have
to reconnect to the BE?  I've seen odd behavior like that over a network
with a flaky card in one machine, but I've also seen it when the
machines had different service packs of Jet installed.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Gregg [mailto:greggs at msn.com]
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 8:25 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] List Box does not show all


What causes list boxes to no show the whole list?  Seems to come and go.
It shows up on all users so it must be either the link to the BE or the
BE itself.  Any ideas?

Gregg Steinbrenner


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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 27 09:22:44 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 10:22:44 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] List Box does not show all
In-Reply-To: <MOELIKDOANGCHBBIGOLIGEPEECAA.greggs@msn.com>
Message-ID: <20040427142244.ZPSR1773.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Where are the list items coming from? Sounds like you're using a Table/Query
list, so this wouldn't be the problem, but a Value list is limited in the
number of characters, and with 7 columns, you might have reached it -- if
you're using a Value list. 

Susan H. 

The list box is trying to display 36 rows but only shows 23.  The query
behind the list is showing 36.  It's seven columns wide.  I thinks all users
are using the same version of A97.



From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Apr 27 09:50:07 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 07:50:07 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT - ASP & HTML Logon
In-Reply-To: <16160288.1083054527817.JavaMail.www@wwinf3004>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIOEPOCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Paul:

There is so much to say I do not know where to start. If your questions have
not been answered today I will take a closer look this evening.

Jim

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paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 1:29 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] OT - ASP & HTML Logon


To all,

Really sorry for the OT but don?t know any good ASP/HTML lists.

I am starting to get into writing HTML & ASP (gulp), I have created a HTML
logon page (very very very basic) which when you click the Submit button
calls an ASP page called CheckLogin.asp (see HTML code below):

<HTML>
<HEAD>
<title>Orridge Reporting Logon</title>
</HEAD>
<BODY>
      <FORM METHOD=Post ACTION="CheckLogin.asp">
      Username: <INPUT TYPE=Text NAME="Username">
      <P>
      Password: <INPUT TYPE=Password NAME="Password">
      <P>
      <INPUT TYPE=Reset> <INPUT TYPE=Submit>
      </FORM>
</BODY>
</HTML>

The problem being that when the submit button is pressed it tries to
download the page instead of checking the username against my database.
Does anyone know what the problem could be ?

Thanks in advance for any help on this.

Paul Hartland
Database Designer/Developer (and a total novice in WEB development).
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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Tue Apr 27 10:05:23 2004
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 17:05:23 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] OT - ASP & HTML Logon
Message-ID: <14186419.1083078323359.JavaMail.www@wwinf3002>

Jim,
Still waiting thanks
Paul





Message date : Apr 27 2004, 04:01 PM
>From : "Jim Lawrence (AccessD)" 
To : "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
Copy to : 
Subject : RE: [AccessD] OT - ASP & HTML Logon
Hi Paul:

There is so much to say I do not know where to start. If your questions have
not been answered today I will take a closer look this evening.

Jim

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paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 1:29 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] OT - ASP & HTML Logon


To all,

Really sorry for the OT but don?t know any good ASP/HTML lists.

I am starting to get into writing HTML & ASP (gulp), I have created a HTML
logon page (very very very basic) which when you click the Submit button
calls an ASP page called CheckLogin.asp (see HTML code below):








Username: 


Password: 


 





The problem being that when the submit button is pressed it tries to
download the page instead of checking the username against my database.
Does anyone know what the problem could be ?

Thanks in advance for any help on this.

Paul Hartland
Database Designer/Developer (and a total novice in WEB development).
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From rbgajewski at adelphia.net  Tue Apr 27 10:47:16 2004
From: rbgajewski at adelphia.net (Bob Gajewski)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 11:47:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access Address to Map in Browser - LENGTHY REPLY
In-Reply-To: <000b01c42c45$9ea3d880$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
Message-ID: <LHEEKEKNLFONONKPIOCJMEEMGEAA.rbgajewski@adelphia.net>

William:

I placed two command buttons (cmdMap and cmdWeather) on my form and
controlled their value, caption and enabled state through code. This also
uses a US zip code database to automatically populate the Municipality and
StateCode fields.


*********************************************
Private Sub Form_Current()
If IsNull([txtJobMunicipalityName]) Or _
    IsNull([txtJobStateCode]) Or _
    IsNull([txtJobZipCode]) Or _
    [txtJobMunicipalityName] = "" Or _
    [txtJobStateCode] = "" Or _
    [txtJobZipCode] = "" Then
    cmdMap.Enabled = False
    cmdMap.Caption = "Local map not available - address incomplete"
    cmdWeather.Enabled = False
    cmdWeather.Caption = "Local weather not available - address incomplete"
Else
    cmdMap.Enabled = True
    cmdWeather.Enabled = True
End If

If Not IsNull([txtJobZipCode]) And [txtJobZipCode] <> "" Then
    cmdMap.HyperlinkAddress =
"http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?country=US&addtohistory=&address=" &
[txtJobAddress] & "&city=" & [txtJobMunicipalityName] & "&state=" &
[txtJobStateCode] & "&zipcode=" & [txtJobZipCode] &
"&homesubmit.x=30&homesubmit.y=14"
    cmdMap.Caption = "View local map for " & [txtJobMunicipalityName] & ", "
& [txtJobStateCode]
    cmdWeather.HyperlinkAddress = "http://www.weather.com/weather/local/" &
[txtJobZipCode] & "?whatprefs="
    cmdWeather.Caption = "Check local weather in " &
[txtJobMunicipalityName] & ", " & [txtJobStateCode]
End If
End Sub
*********************************************
Private Sub txtJobMunicipalityName_AfterUpdate()
If IsNull([txtJobStateCode]) Or [txtJobStateCode] = "" Then
    Me.txtJobStateCode.SetFocus
End If
If IsNull([txtJobMunicipalityName]) Or _
    IsNull([txtJobStateCode]) Or _
    IsNull([txtJobZipCode]) Or _
    [txtJobMunicipalityName] = "" Or _
    [txtJobStateCode] = "" Or _
    [txtJobZipCode] = "" Then
    cmdMap.Enabled = False
    cmdMap.Caption = "Local map not available - address incomplete"
    cmdWeather.Enabled = False
    cmdWeather.Caption = "Local weather not available - address incomplete"
Else
    cmdMap.Enabled = True
    cmdWeather.Enabled = True
End If
End Sub
*********************************************
Private Sub txtJobStateCode_AfterUpdate()
If IsNull([txtJobMunicipalityName]) Or _
    IsNull([txtJobStateCode]) Or _
    IsNull([txtJobZipCode]) Or _
    [txtJobMunicipalityName] = "" Or _
    [txtJobStateCode] = "" Or _
    [txtJobZipCode] = "" Then
    cmdMap.Enabled = False
    cmdMap.Caption = "Local map not available - address incomplete"
    cmdWeather.Enabled = False
    cmdWeather.Caption = "Local weather not available - address incomplete"
Else
    cmdMap.Enabled = True
    cmdWeather.Enabled = True
End If
End Sub
*********************************************
Private Sub txtJobZipCode_AfterUpdate()
Dim varCMN, varCSC
varCMN = DLookup("[txtMunicipalityName]", "tblZipCodes",
"[tblZipCodes].[txtZipCode] = '" & [txtJobZipCode] & "'")
varCSC = DLookup("[txtStateCode]", "tblZipCodes",
"[tblZipCodes].[txtZipCode] = '" & [txtJobZipCode] & "'")
If Not IsNull(varCMN) Then
    Me.txtJobMunicipalityName = varCMN
    Me.txtJobStateCode = varCSC
Else
    MsgBox "The zip code entered is not on file. Input the municipality name
and select the state."
    Me.txtJobMunicipalityName = Null
    Me.txtJobStateCode = Null
    Me.txtJobMunicipalityName.SetFocus
End If
If IsNull([txtJobMunicipalityName]) Or _
    IsNull([txtJobStateCode]) Or _
    IsNull([txtJobZipCode]) Or _
    [txtJobMunicipalityName] = "" Or _
    [txtJobStateCode] = "" Or _
    [txtJobZipCode] = "" Then
    cmdMap.Enabled = False
    cmdMap.Caption = "Local map not available - address incomplete"
    cmdWeather.Enabled = False
    cmdWeather.Caption = "Local weather not available - address incomplete"
Else
    cmdMap.Enabled = True
    cmdWeather.Enabled = True
End If
If Not IsNull([txtJobZipCode]) And [txtJobZipCode] <> "" Then
    cmdMap.HyperlinkAddress =
"http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?country=US&addtohistory=&address=" &
[txtJobAddress] & "&city=" & [txtJobMunicipalityName] & "&state=" &
[txtJobStateCode] & "&zipcode=" & [txtJobZipCode] &
"&homesubmit.x=30&homesubmit.y=14"
    cmdMap.Caption = "View local map for " & [txtJobMunicipalityName] & ", "
& [txtJobStateCode]
    cmdWeather.HyperlinkAddress = "http://www.weather.com/weather/local/" &
[txtJobZipCode] & "?whatprefs="
    cmdWeather.Caption = "Check local weather in " &
[txtJobMunicipalityName] & ", " & [txtJobStateCode]
End If
End Sub
*********************************************



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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of William
Hindman
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 06:52
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access Address to Map in Browser


Group

...in Outlook, I can  open a map of a contact's address in a browser
directly from Outlook as follows:

a) select Contacts on the Outlook Bar or in the folder list.
b) select contact whose address I want to locate.
c) File/Open/Selected Items.
d) Under the Address button, click the arrow, and then click the type of
address I want to find on the map (Business/Home/Other).
e) Actions/Display Map of Address.

...my browser opens to Find a Map at mappoint.msn.com with a push-pin
marking the location of the address.

...has anyone done anything like this via code from Access? ...without using
Outlook?

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Tue Apr 27 11:19:34 2004
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 09:19:34 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT - ASP & HTML Logon
In-Reply-To: <16160288.1083054527817.JavaMail.www@wwinf3004>
Message-ID: <001301c42c73$6d7c9980$8500a8c0@CX615377a>

One good resource is http://www.4guysfromrolla.com/.

Doug

Douglas Murphy
Murphy's Creativity
(619) 334-5121
doug at murphyscreativity.com
www.murphyscreativity.com




-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 1:29 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] OT - ASP & HTML Logon


To all,
 
Really sorry for the OT but don't know any good ASP/HTML lists.
 
I am starting to get into writing HTML & ASP (gulp), I have created a
HTML logon page (very very very basic) which when you click the Submit
button calls an ASP page called CheckLogin.asp (see HTML code below):
 
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<title>Orridge Reporting Logon</title>
</HEAD>
<BODY>
      <FORM METHOD=Post ACTION="CheckLogin.asp">
      Username: <INPUT TYPE=Text NAME="Username">
      <P>
      Password: <INPUT TYPE=Password NAME="Password">
      <P>
      <INPUT TYPE=Reset> <INPUT TYPE=Submit>
      </FORM>
</BODY>
</HTML>
 
The problem being that when the submit button is pressed it tries to
download the page instead of checking the username against my database.
Does anyone know what the problem could be ?
 
Thanks in advance for any help on this.
 
Paul Hartland
Database Designer/Developer (and a total novice in WEB development).
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From lister at actuarial-files.com  Tue Apr 27 11:21:59 2004
From: lister at actuarial-files.com (Ralf Lister)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:21:59 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT - ASP & HTML Logon
References: <16160288.1083054527817.JavaMail.www@wwinf3004>
Message-ID: <006e01c42c73$db2ee000$13976bce@ralf>

Dear Paul,

sorry I'm a little bit late (as always).

All seems that the code you have given, you saved as ASP-Page. Save it as
HTML-Page. Then it'll work (I tried it on my PWS).

However, it'll not redirect to any other page, it just takes the Username
and Password.

For going to another page after the login (to test if you are authorized),
you have to add:

<%
response.redirect "The_next_page.asp"
%>

BTW, ASP-Pages don't run without server!

HTH
Ralf
Saludos de un Bolivia en peligro
----- Original Message -----
From: <paul.hartland at fsmail.net>
To: "accessd" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 4:28 AM
Subject: [AccessD] OT - ASP & HTML Logon


To all,

Really sorry for the OT but don't know any good ASP/HTML lists.

I am starting to get into writing HTML & ASP (gulp), I have created a HTML
logon page (very very very basic) which when you click the Submit button
calls an ASP page called CheckLogin.asp (see HTML code below):

<HTML>
<HEAD>
<title>Orridge Reporting Logon</title>
</HEAD>
<BODY>
      <FORM METHOD=Post ACTION="CheckLogin.asp">
      Username: <INPUT TYPE=Text NAME="Username">
      <P>
      Password: <INPUT TYPE=Password NAME="Password">
      <P>
      <INPUT TYPE=Reset> <INPUT TYPE=Submit>
      </FORM>
</BODY>
</HTML>

The problem being that when the submit button is pressed it tries to
download the page instead of checking the username against my database.
Does anyone know what the problem could be ?

Thanks in advance for any help on this.

Paul Hartland
Database Designer/Developer (and a total novice in WEB development).
Join the UK's number one for the internet
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From greggs at msn.com  Tue Apr 27 12:12:55 2004
From: greggs at msn.com (Gregg)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:12:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] List Box does not show all
In-Reply-To: <20040427142244.ZPSR1773.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <MOELIKDOANGCHBBIGOLIOEPHECAA.greggs@msn.com>

Susan,

It's a table... here's the source...

SELECT DISTINCTROW [PLastName]+", "+[PFirstName] AS PatientName,
PatientTbl.Address, PatientTbl.City, PatientTbl.Zip, PatientTbl.Phone,
PatientTbl.AdmittingNurse, DateDiff("h",Format([ReferralDate],"mm/dd/yy") &
" " & Format([HourOfReferal],"hh:nn:ss"),Format(Now(),"mm/dd/yy hh:nn:ss"))
AS HoursSinceReferral, PatientTbl.PatientID FROM PatientTbl WHERE
((([PLastName]+", "+[PFirstName]) Is Not Null) AND
((PatientTbl.DenialReason) Is Null) AND ((PatientTbl.dateServiceStart) Is
Null));





-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 9:23 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] List Box does not show all


Where are the list items coming from? Sounds like you're using a Table/Query
list, so this wouldn't be the problem, but a Value list is limited in the
number of characters, and with 7 columns, you might have reached it -- if
you're using a Value list.

Susan H.

The list box is trying to display 36 rows but only shows 23.  The query
behind the list is showing 36.  It's seven columns wide.  I thinks all users
are using the same version of A97.

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Apr 27 12:41:45 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 10:41:45 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] List Box does not show all
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8631274A@infoserver01.infostat.local>

So if you paste that SQL into a query, you get a different number of row
than what shows in the combo?

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Gregg [mailto:greggs at msn.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 9:13 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] List Box does not show all


Susan,

It's a table... here's the source...

SELECT DISTINCTROW [PLastName]+", "+[PFirstName] AS PatientName,
PatientTbl.Address, PatientTbl.City, PatientTbl.Zip, PatientTbl.Phone,
PatientTbl.AdmittingNurse,
DateDiff("h",Format([ReferralDate],"mm/dd/yy") & " " &
Format([HourOfReferal],"hh:nn:ss"),Format(Now(),"mm/dd/yy hh:nn:ss")) AS
HoursSinceReferral, PatientTbl.PatientID FROM PatientTbl WHERE
((([PLastName]+", "+[PFirstName]) Is Not Null) AND
((PatientTbl.DenialReason) Is Null) AND ((PatientTbl.dateServiceStart)
Is Null));





-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 9:23 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] List Box does not show all


Where are the list items coming from? Sounds like you're using a
Table/Query list, so this wouldn't be the problem, but a Value list is
limited in the number of characters, and with 7 columns, you might have
reached it -- if you're using a Value list.

Susan H.

The list box is trying to display 36 rows but only shows 23.  The query
behind the list is showing 36.  It's seven columns wide.  I thinks all
users are using the same version of A97.

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From my.lists at verizon.net  Tue Apr 27 12:49:25 2004
From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 10:49:25 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
In-Reply-To: <1387056546.20040423104132@cactus.dk>
References: <657FB70438B7D311AF320090279C18010614418F@EXCHMAIL>	<322806795.20040422090018@cactus.dk>
	<408827CE.7060601@verizon.net>
	<1387056546.20040423104132@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <408E9D25.8090609@verizon.net>

Gustav Brock said the following on 4/23/2004 1:41 AM:

>But Christopher didn't refer to SQL Server, that's why I thought it
>would be more relevant to show that this bug is non-existing in Jet SQL.
>  
>
The reason this is even mentioned is because the IN bug is not a SQL 
Server bug at all but an ANSI SQL standard behavior and is even 
mentioned in a KB article here
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;298674
or (http://tinyurl.com/35zgr)

>Further, I guess including the where clause will perform much slower?
>If you really need to do that, couldn't this do (I have no SQL Server
>to play with):
>
>     au_id IN
>     (SELECT au_id FROM Publishers WHERE Publishers.au_id Is Not Null)
>
>/gustav
>
>
>  
>
also accoring to the article fully qualifying the column name clears 
this problem up, which I tested and confirmed.

-- 
-Francisco




From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 27 14:34:10 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 21:34:10 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
In-Reply-To: <408E9D25.8090609@verizon.net>
References: <657FB70438B7D311AF320090279C18010614418F@EXCHMAIL>
	<322806795.20040422090018@cactus.dk> <408827CE.7060601@verizon.net>
	<1387056546.20040423104132@cactus.dk> <408E9D25.8090609@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <1448738802.20040427213410@cactus.dk>

Hi Francisco

OK, thanks for the clarification.

/gustav


>>But Christopher didn't refer to SQL Server, that's why I thought it
>>would be more relevant to show that this bug is non-existing in Jet SQL.
>>  
>>
> The reason this is even mentioned is because the IN bug is not a SQL 
> Server bug at all but an ANSI SQL standard behavior and is even 
> mentioned in a KB article here
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;298674
> or (http://tinyurl.com/35zgr)

>>Further, I guess including the where clause will perform much slower?
>>If you really need to do that, couldn't this do (I have no SQL Server
>>to play with):
>>
>>     au_id IN
>>     (SELECT au_id FROM Publishers WHERE Publishers.au_id Is Not Null)
>>
>>/gustav
>>
>>
>>  
>>
> also accoring to the article fully qualifying the column name clears 
> this problem up, which I tested and confirmed.

> -- 
> -Francisco



From greggs at msn.com  Tue Apr 27 15:04:15 2004
From: greggs at msn.com (Gregg)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 15:04:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] List Box does not show all
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8631274A@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <MOELIKDOANGCHBBIGOLIOEPNECAA.greggs@msn.com>

Yes... that's true.  Here's a recap of the facts.

1. The problem comes and goes.  It happened a couple of weeks ago but by the
time they went to show it to me it was gone.  I didn't believe them of
course until it happened again this week and I could see it.  I fooled with
it and it went away but when I undid my changes it didn't come back... very
weird. I've seen this before at another customer using A97 where the list
would go from say "A" to "M" and that's all.  That was a much longer list
but only 2 columns wide.

2. When it happens it happens everywhere

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 12:42 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] List Box does not show all


So if you paste that SQL into a query, you get a different number of row
than what shows in the combo?

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Gregg [mailto:greggs at msn.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 9:13 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] List Box does not show all


Susan,

It's a table... here's the source...

SELECT DISTINCTROW [PLastName]+", "+[PFirstName] AS PatientName,
PatientTbl.Address, PatientTbl.City, PatientTbl.Zip, PatientTbl.Phone,
PatientTbl.AdmittingNurse,
DateDiff("h",Format([ReferralDate],"mm/dd/yy") & " " &
Format([HourOfReferal],"hh:nn:ss"),Format(Now(),"mm/dd/yy hh:nn:ss")) AS
HoursSinceReferral, PatientTbl.PatientID FROM PatientTbl WHERE
((([PLastName]+", "+[PFirstName]) Is Not Null) AND
((PatientTbl.DenialReason) Is Null) AND ((PatientTbl.dateServiceStart)
Is Null));





-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 9:23 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] List Box does not show all


Where are the list items coming from? Sounds like you're using a
Table/Query list, so this wouldn't be the problem, but a Value list is
limited in the number of characters, and with 7 columns, you might have
reached it -- if you're using a Value list.

Susan H.

The list box is trying to display 36 rows but only shows 23.  The query
behind the list is showing 36.  It's seven columns wide.  I thinks all
users are using the same version of A97.

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From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 27 16:09:56 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 17:09:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access Address to Map in Browser - LENGTHY REPLY
References: <LHEEKEKNLFONONKPIOCJMEEMGEAA.rbgajewski@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <000801c42c9c$12ae2720$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...terrific Bob! ...between you and Andy I've got exactly what I need
...AccessD rules! :)))))))

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Gajewski" <rbgajewski at adelphia.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 11:47 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access Address to Map in Browser - LENGTHY REPLY


> William:
>
> I placed two command buttons (cmdMap and cmdWeather) on my form and
> controlled their value, caption and enabled state through code. This also
> uses a US zip code database to automatically populate the Municipality and
> StateCode fields.
>
>
> *********************************************
> Private Sub Form_Current()
> If IsNull([txtJobMunicipalityName]) Or _
>     IsNull([txtJobStateCode]) Or _
>     IsNull([txtJobZipCode]) Or _
>     [txtJobMunicipalityName] = "" Or _
>     [txtJobStateCode] = "" Or _
>     [txtJobZipCode] = "" Then
>     cmdMap.Enabled = False
>     cmdMap.Caption = "Local map not available - address incomplete"
>     cmdWeather.Enabled = False
>     cmdWeather.Caption = "Local weather not available - address
incomplete"
> Else
>     cmdMap.Enabled = True
>     cmdWeather.Enabled = True
> End If
>
> If Not IsNull([txtJobZipCode]) And [txtJobZipCode] <> "" Then
>     cmdMap.HyperlinkAddress =
> "http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?country=US&addtohistory=&address=" &
> [txtJobAddress] & "&city=" & [txtJobMunicipalityName] & "&state=" &
> [txtJobStateCode] & "&zipcode=" & [txtJobZipCode] &
> "&homesubmit.x=30&homesubmit.y=14"
>     cmdMap.Caption = "View local map for " & [txtJobMunicipalityName] & ",
"
> & [txtJobStateCode]
>     cmdWeather.HyperlinkAddress = "http://www.weather.com/weather/local/"
&
> [txtJobZipCode] & "?whatprefs="
>     cmdWeather.Caption = "Check local weather in " &
> [txtJobMunicipalityName] & ", " & [txtJobStateCode]
> End If
> End Sub
> *********************************************
> Private Sub txtJobMunicipalityName_AfterUpdate()
> If IsNull([txtJobStateCode]) Or [txtJobStateCode] = "" Then
>     Me.txtJobStateCode.SetFocus
> End If
> If IsNull([txtJobMunicipalityName]) Or _
>     IsNull([txtJobStateCode]) Or _
>     IsNull([txtJobZipCode]) Or _
>     [txtJobMunicipalityName] = "" Or _
>     [txtJobStateCode] = "" Or _
>     [txtJobZipCode] = "" Then
>     cmdMap.Enabled = False
>     cmdMap.Caption = "Local map not available - address incomplete"
>     cmdWeather.Enabled = False
>     cmdWeather.Caption = "Local weather not available - address
incomplete"
> Else
>     cmdMap.Enabled = True
>     cmdWeather.Enabled = True
> End If
> End Sub
> *********************************************
> Private Sub txtJobStateCode_AfterUpdate()
> If IsNull([txtJobMunicipalityName]) Or _
>     IsNull([txtJobStateCode]) Or _
>     IsNull([txtJobZipCode]) Or _
>     [txtJobMunicipalityName] = "" Or _
>     [txtJobStateCode] = "" Or _
>     [txtJobZipCode] = "" Then
>     cmdMap.Enabled = False
>     cmdMap.Caption = "Local map not available - address incomplete"
>     cmdWeather.Enabled = False
>     cmdWeather.Caption = "Local weather not available - address
incomplete"
> Else
>     cmdMap.Enabled = True
>     cmdWeather.Enabled = True
> End If
> End Sub
> *********************************************
> Private Sub txtJobZipCode_AfterUpdate()
> Dim varCMN, varCSC
> varCMN = DLookup("[txtMunicipalityName]", "tblZipCodes",
> "[tblZipCodes].[txtZipCode] = '" & [txtJobZipCode] & "'")
> varCSC = DLookup("[txtStateCode]", "tblZipCodes",
> "[tblZipCodes].[txtZipCode] = '" & [txtJobZipCode] & "'")
> If Not IsNull(varCMN) Then
>     Me.txtJobMunicipalityName = varCMN
>     Me.txtJobStateCode = varCSC
> Else
>     MsgBox "The zip code entered is not on file. Input the municipality
name
> and select the state."
>     Me.txtJobMunicipalityName = Null
>     Me.txtJobStateCode = Null
>     Me.txtJobMunicipalityName.SetFocus
> End If
> If IsNull([txtJobMunicipalityName]) Or _
>     IsNull([txtJobStateCode]) Or _
>     IsNull([txtJobZipCode]) Or _
>     [txtJobMunicipalityName] = "" Or _
>     [txtJobStateCode] = "" Or _
>     [txtJobZipCode] = "" Then
>     cmdMap.Enabled = False
>     cmdMap.Caption = "Local map not available - address incomplete"
>     cmdWeather.Enabled = False
>     cmdWeather.Caption = "Local weather not available - address
incomplete"
> Else
>     cmdMap.Enabled = True
>     cmdWeather.Enabled = True
> End If
> If Not IsNull([txtJobZipCode]) And [txtJobZipCode] <> "" Then
>     cmdMap.HyperlinkAddress =
> "http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?country=US&addtohistory=&address=" &
> [txtJobAddress] & "&city=" & [txtJobMunicipalityName] & "&state=" &
> [txtJobStateCode] & "&zipcode=" & [txtJobZipCode] &
> "&homesubmit.x=30&homesubmit.y=14"
>     cmdMap.Caption = "View local map for " & [txtJobMunicipalityName] & ",
"
> & [txtJobStateCode]
>     cmdWeather.HyperlinkAddress = "http://www.weather.com/weather/local/"
&
> [txtJobZipCode] & "?whatprefs="
>     cmdWeather.Caption = "Check local weather in " &
> [txtJobMunicipalityName] & ", " & [txtJobStateCode]
> End If
> End Sub
> *********************************************
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of William
> Hindman
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 06:52
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Access Address to Map in Browser
>
>
> Group
>
> ...in Outlook, I can  open a map of a contact's address in a browser
> directly from Outlook as follows:
>
> a) select Contacts on the Outlook Bar or in the folder list.
> b) select contact whose address I want to locate.
> c) File/Open/Selected Items.
> d) Under the Address button, click the arrow, and then click the type of
> address I want to find on the map (Business/Home/Other).
> e) Actions/Display Map of Address.
>
> ...my browser opens to Find a Map at mappoint.msn.com with a push-pin
> marking the location of the address.
>
> ...has anyone done anything like this via code from Access? ...without
using
> Outlook?
>
> William Hindman
> "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
> a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein
>
>
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From rbgajewski at adelphia.net  Tue Apr 27 16:15:19 2004
From: rbgajewski at adelphia.net (Bob Gajewski)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 17:15:19 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access Address to Map in Browser - LENGTHY REPLY
In-Reply-To: <000801c42c9c$12ae2720$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
Message-ID: <LHEEKEKNLFONONKPIOCJCEFBGEAA.rbgajewski@adelphia.net>

William

Always glad to help! Believe me - you have helped me more times than you
know, with your answers to others!

Let me know if you also want the US zip code database; I can send it offline
(to anyone).

Regards,
Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of William
Hindman
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 17:10
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Address to Map in Browser - LENGTHY REPLY


...terrific Bob! ...between you and Andy I've got exactly what I need
...AccessD rules! :)))))))

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein





From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Tue Apr 27 18:20:06 2004
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 09:20:06 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Re:Mail Merge form letters
Message-ID: <OFE336FA65.5703DD6E-ONCA256E83.00801146@agric.nsw.gov.au>


Thanks Marty

The pages on mail merge were very informative.

I guess sometimes you just have to know where to look :)

Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Agriculture
Orange



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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Apr 27 19:34:31 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 20:34:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] List Box does not show all
In-Reply-To: <MOELIKDOANGCHBBIGOLIOEPNECAA.greggs@msn.com>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPMECEHGAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

I have seen this too.  It had to do with the wrong number of columns in the
combo's column property vs the number in the sql statement.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gregg
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 4:04 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] List Box does not show all


Yes... that's true.  Here's a recap of the facts.

1. The problem comes and goes.  It happened a couple of weeks ago but by the
time they went to show it to me it was gone.  I didn't believe them of
course until it happened again this week and I could see it.  I fooled with
it and it went away but when I undid my changes it didn't come back... very
weird. I've seen this before at another customer using A97 where the list
would go from say "A" to "M" and that's all.  That was a much longer list
but only 2 columns wide.

2. When it happens it happens everywhere

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 12:42 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] List Box does not show all


So if you paste that SQL into a query, you get a different number of row
than what shows in the combo?

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Gregg [mailto:greggs at msn.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 9:13 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] List Box does not show all


Susan,

It's a table... here's the source...

SELECT DISTINCTROW [PLastName]+", "+[PFirstName] AS PatientName,
PatientTbl.Address, PatientTbl.City, PatientTbl.Zip, PatientTbl.Phone,
PatientTbl.AdmittingNurse,
DateDiff("h",Format([ReferralDate],"mm/dd/yy") & " " &
Format([HourOfReferal],"hh:nn:ss"),Format(Now(),"mm/dd/yy hh:nn:ss")) AS
HoursSinceReferral, PatientTbl.PatientID FROM PatientTbl WHERE
((([PLastName]+", "+[PFirstName]) Is Not Null) AND
((PatientTbl.DenialReason) Is Null) AND ((PatientTbl.dateServiceStart)
Is Null));





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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 9:23 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] List Box does not show all


Where are the list items coming from? Sounds like you're using a
Table/Query list, so this wouldn't be the problem, but a Value list is
limited in the number of characters, and with 7 columns, you might have
reached it -- if you're using a Value list.

Susan H.

The list box is trying to display 36 rows but only shows 23.  The query
behind the list is showing 36.  It's seven columns wide.  I thinks all
users are using the same version of A97.

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From sgoodhall at comcast.net  Tue Apr 27 20:24:05 2004
From: sgoodhall at comcast.net (Steve Goodhall)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 21:24:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] UNION Queries
In-Reply-To: <OFE336FA65.5703DD6E-ONCA256E83.00801146@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <GOEIJOAPGAMPLIOCMEPMCEOIDNAA.sgoodhall@comcast.net>

Has anybody had any weird problems with UNION queries.  I have a UNION of 4
SELECTS that returns 257 records when opened in the query tool, but only 18
when processed as a recordset.  Running in A2K. Any thoughts?

Thanks

Steve Goodhall


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 27 21:29:28 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 12:29:28 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] UNION Queries
In-Reply-To: <GOEIJOAPGAMPLIOCMEPMCEOIDNAA.sgoodhall@comcast.net>
References: <OFE336FA65.5703DD6E-ONCA256E83.00801146@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <408FA3A8.30339.1042F4C@localhost>

On 27 Apr 2004 at 21:24, Steve Goodhall wrote:

> Has anybody had any weird problems with UNION queries.  I have a UNION of 4
> SELECTS that returns 257 records when opened in the query tool, but only 18
> when processed as a recordset.  Running in A2K. Any thoughts?
> 

Are all 257 different?

I'd guess that the Query will have the UniqueRecords property set to 
No. Try using UNION ALL in the recordset.




 
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From terry.mace at baesystems.com  Tue Apr 27 21:53:58 2004
From: terry.mace at baesystems.com (MACE, Terry)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 12:23:58 +0930
Subject: [AccessD] User Defined Properties A97
Message-ID: <B20C5B1CB8A30543BD7A9F173F29CCFDAABB31@abw2ex1.au.baesystems.com>

I'm trying to use a custom property to store some changing information,
which works fine, but when I try to read it, it only returns the value that
was present when the database was opened.

Is this the way it works or can I read the changed info. I'm using the
following code to read the property 'Reference':

DBEngine(0)(0).Containers("Databases").Documents("UserDefined").Properties("
reference")

Terry Mace


From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Apr 28 01:26:39 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 16:26:39 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Getting incorrect date
References: <408EC2C6.4554.2E3D660@localhost>
Message-ID: <002701c42ce9$c4074770$48619a89@DDICK>

Thanks Stuart
Exactly what i needed

Darren

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Darren DICK" <d.dick at uws.edu.au>; "Access Developers discussion and problemsolving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Getting incorrect date


> On 27 Apr 2004 at 14:36, Darren DICK wrote:
> 
> > Hello all
> > Can anyone tell me why dtTimeElapsed  is returning a crap date around 1900 or so?
> > dtStartDate returns the expected date as does dtTodaysDate 
> > Many thanks
> > 
> > 
> > Dim dtStartDate As Date
> > Dim dtTodaysDate As Date
> > Dim dtTimeElapsed As Date
> > 
> 
> Because an elapsed period is not a date. It is a number.  DateDiff() returns *number* of time periods
> Dim dtTimeElapsed as a long  to get the number of  the time periods specified by the first paramter of DateDiff.
> 
> 
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From mwp.reid at queens-belfast.ac.uk  Wed Apr 28 05:49:12 2004
From: mwp.reid at queens-belfast.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 11:49:12 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
Subject: [AccessD] OT Ignore
In-Reply-To: <LHEEKEKNLFONONKPIOCJCEFBGEAA.rbgajewski@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <SIMEON.10404281112.B@TUG00001.fujin.qub.ac.uk>


Test

11.40am




Martin WP Reid
Information Services
Queens University Belfast

Tel: (02890) 273750


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From BarbaraRyan at cox.net  Wed Apr 28 07:17:47 2004
From: BarbaraRyan at cox.net (Barbara Ryan)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 08:17:47 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Capture value when deleting a a record
Message-ID: <005001c42d1a$d1902160$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>

In an Access 97 application, I have a form that displays records from a table.  When a user deletes a record, I want to first capture the value in the key field and store it in a variable.  However, when the OnDelete event occurs, the record has already been deleted to a buffer.  I've also tried Form_Current but it's not available there either.  Aside from capturing all the possible keystrokes (that will delete a reord) in KeyDown, how can I capture a field value on a delete?

Thanks,
Barb Ryan

From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Apr 28 07:47:25 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 22:47:25 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Capture value when deleting a a record
In-Reply-To: <005001c42d1a$d1902160$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
Message-ID: <4090347D.26259.339EB8C@localhost>

On 28 Apr 2004 at 8:17, Barbara Ryan wrote:

> In an Access 97 application, I have a form that displays records from
> a table.  When a user deletes a record, I want to first capture the
> value in the key field and store it in a variable.  However, when the
> OnDelete event occurs, the record has already been deleted to a
> buffer.  

No it isn't. It does not get deleted  until after the OnDelete and 
before the DeleteConfirm.

You *can* store the current Key in the OnDelete into a form or global 
variable. I do it frequently.

>I've also tried Form_Current but it's not available there
> either.  

You must be doing something else wrong. It is also available there (I 
capture it at that point on occasions as well)

How about posting your form's code to see what is happening?



 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Apr 28 07:51:59 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 08:51:59 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Capture value when deleting a a record
In-Reply-To: <005001c42d1a$d1902160$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPEECHHGAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Capture it in OnCurrent (as you move to the record).  That way you already
have it when the delete occurs.  When you sense the delete, store that
already captured value.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Barbara Ryan
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 8:18 AM
To: Access List
Subject: [AccessD] Capture value when deleting a a record


In an Access 97 application, I have a form that displays records from a
table.  When a user deletes a record, I want to first capture the value in
the key field and store it in a variable.  However, when the OnDelete event
occurs, the record has already been deleted to a buffer.  I've also tried
Form_Current but it's not available there either.  Aside from capturing all
the possible keystrokes (that will delete a reord) in KeyDown, how can I
capture a field value on a delete?

Thanks,
Barb Ryan
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From BarbaraRyan at cox.net  Wed Apr 28 07:59:23 2004
From: BarbaraRyan at cox.net (Barbara Ryan)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 08:59:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Capture value when deleting a a record
References: <4090347D.26259.339EB8C@localhost>
Message-ID: <007101c42d20$a160de20$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>

I will look at my code again and try to see what the heck I'm doing!  Thanks


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problemsolving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Capture value when deleting a a record


> On 28 Apr 2004 at 8:17, Barbara Ryan wrote:
>
> > In an Access 97 application, I have a form that displays records from
> > a table.  When a user deletes a record, I want to first capture the
> > value in the key field and store it in a variable.  However, when the
> > OnDelete event occurs, the record has already been deleted to a
> > buffer.
>
> No it isn't. It does not get deleted  until after the OnDelete and
> before the DeleteConfirm.
>
> You *can* store the current Key in the OnDelete into a form or global
> variable. I do it frequently.
>
> >I've also tried Form_Current but it's not available there
> > either.
>
> You must be doing something else wrong. It is also available there (I
> capture it at that point on occasions as well)
>
> How about posting your form's code to see what is happening?
>
>
>
>
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From susanj at sgmeet.com  Wed Apr 28 10:13:19 2004
From: susanj at sgmeet.com (Susan Jones)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 10:13:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] TIMS
In-Reply-To: <007101c42d20$a160de20$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
References: <4090347D.26259.339EB8C@localhost>
	<007101c42d20$a160de20$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20040428100131.03cbdc88@mail.sgmeet.com>

Has anyone heard of or used a product from TIMS for online data management 
(shopping cart kind of set-up)?  I'm searching Google and haven't been able 
to bring up an actual company.  We've been asked to submit a bid for data 
management and, per their letter, the system currently used is "a fairly 
new product they purchased from TIMS."
Thanks,
Susan 



From EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us  Wed Apr 28 10:23:13 2004
From: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us (Tesiny, Ed)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 11:23:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] TIMS
Message-ID: <FED384E544086A47AAC07C0999BE8D1701E05241@albmsx2k.rt.oasas.state.ny.us>


Found this at http://www.software-x.com/software/storage-management.html
TIMS Inc
Producers of SAPERION, a comprehensive solution for imaging, document
management, storage management, COLD, and scripting workflow.
SAPERION(r) is an " All in One, Ready to Run" integrated knowledge
management and eBusiness software solution for capturing, imaging, COLD,
digital signatures, DMS, storage & archiving and workflow. 


Ed Tesiny
EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Jones [mailto:susanj at sgmeet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 11:13 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] TIMS

Has anyone heard of or used a product from TIMS for online data
management 
(shopping cart kind of set-up)?  I'm searching Google and haven't been
able 
to bring up an actual company.  We've been asked to submit a bid for
data 
management and, per their letter, the system currently used is "a fairly

new product they purchased from TIMS."
Thanks,
Susan 

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From PBudge at cbsol.com  Wed Apr 28 10:46:33 2004
From: PBudge at cbsol.com (PBudge at cbsol.com)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 10:46:33 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] TIMS
Message-ID: <OFB191080B.E940DC87-ON86256E84.00569BE4@cbsol.com>


http://www.timstech.com/tech/

Pamela G. Budge
PBudge at cbsol.com
Creative Business Solutions


                                                                                                                                               
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Has anyone heard of or used a product from TIMS for online data management
(shopping cart kind of set-up)?  I'm searching Google and haven't been able

to bring up an actual company.  We've been asked to submit a bid for data
management and, per their letter, the system currently used is "a fairly
new product they purchased from TIMS."
Thanks,
Susan

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From jmoss111 at bellsouth.net  Wed Apr 28 10:40:53 2004
From: jmoss111 at bellsouth.net (JMoss)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 10:40:53 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] TIMS
In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20040428100131.03cbdc88@mail.sgmeet.com>
Message-ID: <OKEMICJGPJCMJCCHGNDEEEENCEAA.jmoss111@bellsouth.net>

The link below to a company named TIMS doesn't mention a shopping cart but
it does mention data management.


http://www.timsinc.com/index.html


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Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 10:13 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] TIMS


Has anyone heard of or used a product from TIMS for online data management
(shopping cart kind of set-up)?  I'm searching Google and haven't been able
to bring up an actual company.  We've been asked to submit a bid for data
management and, per their letter, the system currently used is "a fairly
new product they purchased from TIMS."
Thanks,
Susan

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From doug at starntech.com  Wed Apr 28 11:03:41 2004
From: doug at starntech.com (Douglas Barnes)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 12:03:41 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Subform to Subform Updating
Message-ID: <NDBBJLJAILLNMMEMJPEEIEONGLAA.doug@starntech.com>

I have a main form with 2 subforms (sub1, sub2). I can add records to sub1
as it is related to the main form. I can't seem to add records to sub2,
which is related to sub1.

Any insight on this would be appreciated.


Douglas Barnes
Starn Technical Services
P. O. 1172
Meadville, PA 16335

814.724.1045

doug at starntech.com
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From susanj at sgmeet.com  Wed Apr 28 11:20:10 2004
From: susanj at sgmeet.com (Susan Jones)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 11:20:10 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] TIMS
In-Reply-To: <OFB191080B.E940DC87-ON86256E84.00569BE4@cbsol.com>
References: <OFB191080B.E940DC87-ON86256E84.00569BE4@cbsol.com>
Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20040428111945.03c13ce0@mail.sgmeet.com>

Thank you all!  At least I have a couple of places to start now!
Susan



From michael.broesdorf at web.de  Wed Apr 28 11:31:14 2004
From: michael.broesdorf at web.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Michael_Br=F6sdorf?=)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 18:31:14 +0200
Subject: AW: [AccessD] Subform to Subform Updating
In-Reply-To: <NDBBJLJAILLNMMEMJPEEIEONGLAA.doug@starntech.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBIILOPOPJBCLJIJHHOEOCFGAA.michael.broesdorf@web.de>

If sub2 is a subform of the main form (i.e. not a subform of sub1), sub2
does not 'see' anything
entered in sub1 since it is linked to the main form.

However, if you put an (invisible) textbox on the main form, that contains
the primary key of sub1, you can link sub2 to that textbox on the main form.

If you now select a record in sub1, it's primary key will show up in the
textbox. Sub2 will then in turn related data.

HTH,

Michael

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Douglas
Barnes
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. April 2004 18:04
An: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Betreff: [AccessD] Subform to Subform Updating


I have a main form with 2 subforms (sub1, sub2). I can add records to sub1
as it is related to the main form. I can't seem to add records to sub2,
which is related to sub1.

Any insight on this would be appreciated.


Douglas Barnes
Starn Technical Services
P. O. 1172
Meadville, PA 16335

814.724.1045

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From doug at starntech.com  Wed Apr 28 13:16:14 2004
From: doug at starntech.com (Douglas Barnes)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 14:16:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Subform to Subform Updating
In-Reply-To: <NEBBIILOPOPJBCLJIJHHOEOCFGAA.michael.broesdorf@web.de>
Message-ID: <NDBBJLJAILLNMMEMJPEEKEPAGLAA.doug@starntech.com>

I have the hidden control on the main form, sorry 'bout that. sub2 does
indeed return the correct data. Problem arises when i try to add another
record in sub2.

Douglas Barnes
Starn Technical Services
P. O. 1172
Meadville, PA 16335

814.724.1045

doug at starntech.com
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Michael
Br?sdorf
Sent: April 28, 2004 12:31 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: AW: [AccessD] Subform to Subform Updating


If sub2 is a subform of the main form (i.e. not a subform of sub1), sub2
does not 'see' anything
entered in sub1 since it is linked to the main form.

However, if you put an (invisible) textbox on the main form, that contains
the primary key of sub1, you can link sub2 to that textbox on the main form.

If you now select a record in sub1, it's primary key will show up in the
textbox. Sub2 will then in turn related data.

HTH,

Michael

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Barnes
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. April 2004 18:04
An: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Betreff: [AccessD] Subform to Subform Updating


I have a main form with 2 subforms (sub1, sub2). I can add records to sub1
as it is related to the main form. I can't seem to add records to sub2,
which is related to sub1.

Any insight on this would be appreciated.


Douglas Barnes
Starn Technical Services
P. O. 1172
Meadville, PA 16335

814.724.1045

doug at starntech.com
www.starntech.com

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From greggs at msn.com  Wed Apr 28 14:10:08 2004
From: greggs at msn.com (Gregg)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 14:10:08 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] List Box does not show all
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPMECEHGAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <MOELIKDOANGCHBBIGOLIKEBAEDAA.greggs@msn.com>

That sounds like something I would do but I didn't on this one.

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Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 7:35 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] List Box does not show all


I have seen this too.  It had to do with the wrong number of columns in the
combo's column property vs the number in the sql statement.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 4:04 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] List Box does not show all


Yes... that's true.  Here's a recap of the facts.

1. The problem comes and goes.  It happened a couple of weeks ago but by the
time they went to show it to me it was gone.  I didn't believe them of
course until it happened again this week and I could see it.  I fooled with
it and it went away but when I undid my changes it didn't come back... very
weird. I've seen this before at another customer using A97 where the list
would go from say "A" to "M" and that's all.  That was a much longer list
but only 2 columns wide.

2. When it happens it happens everywhere

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Foust
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 12:42 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] List Box does not show all


So if you paste that SQL into a query, you get a different number of row
than what shows in the combo?

Charlotte Foust

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Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 9:13 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] List Box does not show all


Susan,

It's a table... here's the source...

SELECT DISTINCTROW [PLastName]+", "+[PFirstName] AS PatientName,
PatientTbl.Address, PatientTbl.City, PatientTbl.Zip, PatientTbl.Phone,
PatientTbl.AdmittingNurse,
DateDiff("h",Format([ReferralDate],"mm/dd/yy") & " " &
Format([HourOfReferal],"hh:nn:ss"),Format(Now(),"mm/dd/yy hh:nn:ss")) AS
HoursSinceReferral, PatientTbl.PatientID FROM PatientTbl WHERE
((([PLastName]+", "+[PFirstName]) Is Not Null) AND
((PatientTbl.DenialReason) Is Null) AND ((PatientTbl.dateServiceStart)
Is Null));





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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 9:23 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] List Box does not show all


Where are the list items coming from? Sounds like you're using a
Table/Query list, so this wouldn't be the problem, but a Value list is
limited in the number of characters, and with 7 columns, you might have
reached it -- if you're using a Value list.

Susan H.

The list box is trying to display 36 rows but only shows 23.  The query
behind the list is showing 36.  It's seven columns wide.  I thinks all
users are using the same version of A97.

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From Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com  Wed Apr 28 14:00:31 2004
From: Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com (Lavsa, Rich)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 15:00:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls AND TIME Controls
Message-ID: <833956F5C117124A89417638FDB11290EBD159@goexchange.pghcorning.com>

Whenever you get it done let me know or post it to the list.  I'll gladly be
a BETA tester...

Rich

-----Original Message-----
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 4:23 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar Controls AND TIME Controls


Well if you can wait, the next item I'm adding to the beta version of my
MiniCalendar is a time/clock portion.

No idea when I'll have it done though...not very timely I guess! LOL

Drew

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Lavsa, Rich
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 2:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls AND TIME Controls


I always hear about Calendar Controls and have used a few of them.  I was
wondering if anyone out there has a Time control.  I have a very time
sensitive application where the technicians have to enter Date and Time on
and Date and Time off.  The time is essential to knowing how long the piece
ran with or without defects in the product to know whether to fix it or use
that mold as a template for others if it was working properly over a long
period of time (long could be 16+ hours due to the harsh environment).  

Anyway, back to my question.  I have a Date/Time field for ON and OFF,
currently I have a text box that is populated with a pop up calendar or by
typing in text, works great.  I also have another unbound field that is used
purely for Time entry, of which the user must type it in as ##:## AM/PM,
then upon exit it concatenates that information with the Date information to
make a complete Date/Time field.. Does anyone know of a Time control or a
better way to achieve this type of functionality other then the Date and
Time Active X control.

Thanks in Advance,
Rich

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From Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com  Wed Apr 28 15:22:32 2004
From: Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com (Jeff Barrows)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 15:22:32 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97
Message-ID: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE63050032673@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com>

It has been a while since I needed to add a memo field to a report and I cannot seem to remember, is the memo field limited to 255 char. on the report?  And if so, could it then limit my memo field to the same 255 chars?

 

TIA

Jeff Barrows  



From EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us  Wed Apr 28 15:27:05 2004
From: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us (Tesiny, Ed)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 16:27:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97
Message-ID: <FED384E544086A47AAC07C0999BE8D1701E05245@albmsx2k.rt.oasas.state.ny.us>

For memo fields the max. number of characters is 64,000. 


Ed Tesiny
EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Barrows [mailto:Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 4:23 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97

It has been a while since I needed to add a memo field to a report and I
cannot seem to remember, is the memo field limited to 255 char. on the
report?  And if so, could it then limit my memo field to the same 255
chars?

 

TIA

Jeff Barrows  

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From DElam at jenkens.com  Wed Apr 28 15:28:23 2004
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 15:28:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0106BE64@natexch.jenkens.com>

The text field is limited to 255 characters.  If you do not need more than
this use the text field.  The memo field is more prone to corruption.  

You can limit the number of characters on the report by using the LEFT$
function, if you want to do that.

Debbie

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From: Jeff Barrows [mailto:Jeff at outbaktech.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 3:23 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97


It has been a while since I needed to add a memo field to a report and I
cannot seem to remember, is the memo field limited to 255 char. on the
report?  And if so, could it then limit my memo field to the same 255 chars?

 

TIA

Jeff Barrows  

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From CMackin at Quiznos.com  Wed Apr 28 15:40:50 2004
From: CMackin at Quiznos.com (Mackin, Christopher)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 14:40:50 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97
Message-ID: <19F28F0B4284C04FB90CAA380451FFD9412722@bross.quiznos.net>

It's limited when used with a GROUP BY or DISTINCT SQL statement as the
recordsource.  All you need to do is, if you require DISTINCT OR GROUP BY,
leave the PK to the Memo field in that query, then, at the highlest level of
your query link back to the Memo field and grab it there.

Chris Mackin

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Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 2:23 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97


It has been a while since I needed to add a memo field to a report and I
cannot seem to remember, is the memo field limited to 255 char. on the
report?  And if so, could it then limit my memo field to the same 255 chars?

 

TIA

Jeff Barrows  

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From Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com  Wed Apr 28 15:43:11 2004
From: Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com (Jeff Barrows)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 15:43:11 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97
Message-ID: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE63050032674@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com>

OK, I stated my question wrong.  I have a report in access 97 that needs to display the contents of a memo field.  How can I do this without some (most) of my data being dropped?

	-----Original Message----- 
	From: Tesiny, Ed [mailto:EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us] 
	Sent: Wed 4/28/2004 3:27 PM 
	To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
	Cc: 
	Subject: RE: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97
	
	

	For memo fields the max. number of characters is 64,000.
	
	
	Ed Tesiny
	EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us
	
	-----Original Message-----
	From: Jeff Barrows [mailto:Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com]
	Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 4:23 PM
	To: AccessD
	Subject: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97
	
	It has been a while since I needed to add a memo field to a report and I
	cannot seem to remember, is the memo field limited to 255 char. on the
	report?  And if so, could it then limit my memo field to the same 255
	chars?
	
	
	
	TIA
	
	Jeff Barrows 
	
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From DElam at jenkens.com  Wed Apr 28 15:52:13 2004
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 15:52:13 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0106BE65@natexch.jenkens.com>

Set the field to be able to grow.  It will expand to fit everything.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Barrows [mailto:Jeff at outbaktech.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 3:43 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97


OK, I stated my question wrong.  I have a report in access 97 that needs to
display the contents of a memo field.  How can I do this without some (most)
of my data being dropped?

	-----Original Message----- 
	From: Tesiny, Ed [mailto:EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us] 
	Sent: Wed 4/28/2004 3:27 PM 
	To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
	Cc: 
	Subject: RE: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97
	
	

	For memo fields the max. number of characters is 64,000.
	
	
	Ed Tesiny
	EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us
	
	-----Original Message-----
	From: Jeff Barrows [mailto:Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com]
	Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 4:23 PM
	To: AccessD
	Subject: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97
	
	It has been a while since I needed to add a memo field to a report
and I
	cannot seem to remember, is the memo field limited to 255 char. on
the
	report?  And if so, could it then limit my memo field to the same
255
	chars?
	
	
	
	TIA
	
	Jeff Barrows 
	
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From JHewson at karta.com  Wed Apr 28 17:19:27 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 17:19:27 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C138393@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

The memo fields do work in reports.
Two things to keep in mind.
1.  "Can Grow" is true.
2.  Remember each report section has a 22 inch Max length.

HTH
Jim



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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Barrows
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 3:23 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97


It has been a while since I needed to add a memo field to a report and I cannot seem to remember, is the memo field limited to 255 char. on the report?  And if so, could it then limit my memo field to the same 255 chars?

 

TIA

Jeff Barrows  

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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Apr 28 18:44:30 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:44:30 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Free Clock dB to good home
Message-ID: <008101c42d7a$c05c48f0$48619a89@DDICK>

Hello all
A long time a go I wrote a very buggy, cartoonish and very amateur 'clock' for entering in start and end times for timesheets.
It's from one of my very early dB's. But it looks kinda cool. 

I found it just the other day. So...anyone want a copy? It's 158 kb Zipped
If so, all me too's must be addressed to
d.dick at uws.edu.au

Keep the subject line  A2K: Free Clock dB to good home
Any me too's to the list will be ignored. Any offenders will be flagged for alien abduction.

See y'all

Darren





From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Wed Apr 28 19:18:28 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 20:18:28 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Free Clock dB to good home
In-Reply-To: <008101c42d7a$c05c48f0$48619a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <40901194.18058.1064671@localhost>

On 29 Apr 2004 at 9:44, Darren DICK wrote:

> Keep the subject line  A2K: Free Clock dB to good home
> Any me too's to the list will be ignored. Any offenders will be
> flagged for alien abduction.

OH. Better yet, we can make them deal with the spam that hits the 
list srever :-)
 
And THEN be flagged for alien abduction :-)


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I am a nobody, and nobody is perfect; therefore, I am perfect.




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Apr 28 20:20:45 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 21:20:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Free Clock dB to good home
In-Reply-To: <40901194.18058.1064671@localhost>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPAECNHGAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

You are not THE nobody and only THE nobody is perfect, therefore you are NOT
perfect!

;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 8:18 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K:Free Clock dB to good home


On 29 Apr 2004 at 9:44, Darren DICK wrote:

> Keep the subject line  A2K: Free Clock dB to good home
> Any me too's to the list will be ignored. Any offenders will be
> flagged for alien abduction.

OH. Better yet, we can make them deal with the spam that hits the
list srever :-)

And THEN be flagged for alien abduction :-)


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Apr 28 20:20:45 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 21:20:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Digital Shakespeare
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPOECMHGAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>


2b + (NOT 2b)

John W. Colby 
www.ColbyConsulting.com



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Apr 28 20:23:35 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 21:23:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Digital Shakespeare
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPOECMHGAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <20040429012334.LRFN1702.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

But can you build a framework for it???????????

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA <sorry>

Susan H. 


2b + (NOT 2b)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Apr 28 20:36:29 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 21:36:29 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Digital Shakespeare
In-Reply-To: <20040429012334.LRFN1702.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPKECNHGAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

ROTFL.  I'm starting to move pieces to VB.Net, starting with SysVars.  This
is going to be fun!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 9:24 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Digital Shakespeare


But can you build a framework for it???????????

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA <sorry>

Susan H.


2b + (NOT 2b)

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From bruce_bruen at mlc.com.au  Wed Apr 28 20:35:07 2004
From: bruce_bruen at mlc.com.au (bruce_bruen at mlc.com.au)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 11:35:07 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Digital Shakespeare
Message-ID: <OFFCD3F0E2.397C68B4-ONCA256E85.0008A14F-CA256E85.000887AA@mlc.com.au>





Surely

or(2B,!2B)




                                                                                                                                               
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                      29/04/2004 11:23                                                                                                         
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But can you build a framework for it???????????

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA <sorry>

Susan H.


2b + (NOT 2b)

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From bruce_bruen at mlc.com.au  Wed Apr 28 20:40:17 2004
From: bruce_bruen at mlc.com.au (bruce_bruen at mlc.com.au)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 11:40:17 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Digital Shakespeare
Message-ID: <OF41722D48.0E912777-ONCA256E85.0008F81F-CA256E85.000900DA@mlc.com.au>





Or if you want a clue as to where I've been:


private void Surely {
      theQuestion = or(2B,!2B);
}


B




                                                                                                                                               
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But can you build a framework for it???????????

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA <sorry>

Susan H.


2b + (NOT 2b)

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Apr 28 21:14:50 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 22:14:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Digital Shakespeare
In-Reply-To: <OFFCD3F0E2.397C68B4-ONCA256E85.0008A14F-CA256E85.000887AA@mlc.com.au>
Message-ID: <20040429021450.MRLT1702.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Shakespeare always gets a little lost in the translation. ;) 

Susan H. 

Surely

or(2B,!2B)




From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Wed Apr 28 22:56:52 2004
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:26:52 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97
References: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0106BE65@natexch.jenkens.com>
Message-ID: <007c01c42d9e$33a5c0c0$fc1865cb@winxp>

    On the subject of memo fields in reports, another interesting feature is pertinent - 

    If the field content is larger than one page, and 'Keep Together' property of Detail section is set as 'Yes', the Report Formatting process is prone to hang up Indefinitely.

    Conclusion - For large Memo Fields in a report, set the 'Keep Together' property of Detail section as 'No'
A.D.Tejpal
--------------
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Elam, Debbie 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 02:22
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97


  Set the field to be able to grow.  It will expand to fit everything.

  Debbie

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Jeff Barrows [mailto:Jeff at outbaktech.com] 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 3:43 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97

  OK, I stated my question wrong.  I have a report in access 97 that needs to display the contents of a memo field.  How can I do this without some (most) of my data being dropped?

  -----Original Message----- 
  From: Tesiny, Ed [mailto:EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us] 
  Sent: Wed 4/28/2004 3:27 PM 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Cc: 
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97

  For memo fields the max. number of characters is 64,000.

  Ed Tesiny
  EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Jeff Barrows [mailto:Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 4:23 PM
  To: AccessD
  Subject: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97

  It has been a while since I needed to add a memo field to a report
  and I
  cannot seem to remember, is the memo field limited to 255 char. on
  the
  report?  And if so, could it then limit my memo field to the same
  255
  chars?

  TIA

  Jeff Barrows 



From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr 29 02:51:55 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:51:55 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97
In-Reply-To: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE63050032673@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com>
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Message-ID: <945722037.20040429095155@cactus.dk>

Hi Jeff

> It has been a while since I needed to add a memo field to a report and I cannot seem to remember, is the memo field limited to 255 char. on the report?  And if so, could it then limit my memo field
> to the same 255 chars?

You may encounter an issue where the last line of the memo is chopped
when printed. That can be prevented by appending to the memo field two
or four line feeds: Chr(13) & Chr(10).

/gustav



From pedro at plex.nl  Thu Apr 29 12:15:08 2004
From: pedro at plex.nl (pedro at plex.nl)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 12:15:08 (MET DST)
Subject: [AccessD] replace in blank (is Null) Field
Message-ID: <200404291015.i3TAF8T0002593@mailhostC.plex.net>

Hello Group,

i want to use the replace in fields that contain no data (is Null). The help function gives as solution to use find and then replace manually. Is there another option?


Pedro Janssen


From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Thu Apr 29 05:43:20 2004
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 12:43:20 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] replace in blank (is Null) Field
Message-ID: <19427990.1083235400290.JavaMail.www@wwinf3004>

Pedro,
Can't you use Replace(YourField,"",WhatYouWantToReplaceItWith) in a loop
Paul





Message date : Apr 29 2004, 11:17 AM
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To : AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
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Subject : [AccessD] replace in blank (is Null) Field
Hello Group,

i want to use the replace in fields that contain no data (is Null). The help function gives as solution to use find and then replace manually. Is there another option?


Pedro Janssen
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From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca  Thu Apr 29 06:56:20 2004
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 07:56:20 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] replace in blank (is Null) Field
Message-ID: <s090b534.060@cbc.ca>

Pedro,

Use an Update Query

UPDATE YourTable SET YourTable.YourField = "The Updated Value"
WHERE (((YourTable.YourField) Is Null));

Bryan Carbonnell
bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca

>>> pedro at plex.nl 29-Apr-04 12:15:08 PM >>>
Hello Group,

i want to use the replace in fields that contain no data (is Null). The
help function gives as solution to use find and then replace manually.
Is there another option?


Pedro Janssen



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 29 07:03:56 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 22:03:56 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] replace in blank (is Null) Field
In-Reply-To: <19427990.1083235400290.JavaMail.www@wwinf3004>
Message-ID: <40917BCC.8273.339BDF4@localhost>

On 29 Apr 2004 at 12:43, paul.hartland at fsmail.net wrote:

> Pedro,
> Can't you use Replace(YourField,"",WhatYouWantToReplaceItWith) in a loop
> Paul
> 
Unfortunately, "" ( a zero length string) is not the same thing as a 
Null.

 
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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Thu Apr 29 07:13:47 2004
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:13:47 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] replace in blank (is Null) Field
Message-ID: <30224847.1083240827610.JavaMail.www@wwinf3004>

yeah, sorry about that....realised as soon as I pressed the Send





Message date : Apr 29 2004, 01:07 PM
>From : "Stuart McLachlan" 
To : "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
Copy to : 
Subject : Re: [AccessD] replace in blank (is Null) Field
On 29 Apr 2004 at 12:43, paul.hartland at fsmail.net wrote:

> Pedro,
> Can't you use Replace(YourField,"",WhatYouWantToReplaceItWith) in a loop
> Paul
> 
Unfortunately, "" ( a zero length string) is not the same thing as a 
Null.


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From michael.broesdorf at web.de  Thu Apr 29 07:38:29 2004
From: michael.broesdorf at web.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Michael_Br=F6sdorf?=)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:38:29 +0200
Subject: AW: [AccessD] Subform to Subform Updating
In-Reply-To: <NDBBJLJAILLNMMEMJPEEKEPAGLAA.doug@starntech.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBIILOPOPJBCLJIJHHEEOOFGAA.michael.broesdorf@web.de>

Hm, to make any statement I would need more information about your data
structure.
If you want you can send me a sample app and I will take a look at it.

Michael

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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. April 2004 20:16
An: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Betreff: RE: [AccessD] Subform to Subform Updating


I have the hidden control on the main form, sorry 'bout that. sub2 does
indeed return the correct data. Problem arises when i try to add another
record in sub2.

Douglas Barnes
Starn Technical Services
P. O. 1172
Meadville, PA 16335

814.724.1045

doug at starntech.com
www.starntech.com

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Br?sdorf
Sent: April 28, 2004 12:31 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: AW: [AccessD] Subform to Subform Updating


If sub2 is a subform of the main form (i.e. not a subform of sub1), sub2
does not 'see' anything
entered in sub1 since it is linked to the main form.

However, if you put an (invisible) textbox on the main form, that contains
the primary key of sub1, you can link sub2 to that textbox on the main form.

If you now select a record in sub1, it's primary key will show up in the
textbox. Sub2 will then in turn related data.

HTH,

Michael

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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. April 2004 18:04
An: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Betreff: [AccessD] Subform to Subform Updating


I have a main form with 2 subforms (sub1, sub2). I can add records to sub1
as it is related to the main form. I can't seem to add records to sub2,
which is related to sub1.

Any insight on this would be appreciated.


Douglas Barnes
Starn Technical Services
P. O. 1172
Meadville, PA 16335

814.724.1045

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From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Thu Apr 29 08:44:12 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Developer)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:44:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT Digital Shakespeare
In-Reply-To: <20040429021450.MRLT1702.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <000801c42df0$11a58e40$6401a8c0@COA3>

This is more like a Friday thread, but the 2b thing reminded me of this.
Theres a lot of t-shirts and other items with these types of sayings in
a catalog called "Computer Gear" (no affiliation).
My fave t-shirt is:

SELECT * FROM users WHERE clue=true
0 Rows Returned


There's also an "RTFM" shirt, and one that says "There are 10 kinds of
people in this world, those who understand binary, and those who don't".


Steve




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Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 10:15 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Digital Shakespeare


Shakespeare always gets a little lost in the translation. ;) 

Susan H. 

Surely

or(2B,!2B)


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From kaupca at chevrontexaco.com  Thu Apr 29 08:56:22 2004
From: kaupca at chevrontexaco.com (Kaup, Chester A)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 08:56:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query results display problem
Message-ID: <193572B4E0FC1744BEDFEE63F82CEC9E0F978B@bocnte2k4.boc.chevrontexaco.net>

I have a query that returns a 7 day average of some numbers and the 7
day average divided by 1000. The regular 7 day average display fine but
the 7 day average divided by 7 displays no decimal places. For example 7
day average is 1027.28571429 but the seven day average divided by seven
displays 1. I tried setting properties to fixed and 2 decimal places and
got 1.00. Why does it display this way? Thanks. SQL if someone wants to
look at it.

SELECT Avg([qry Sandhills Oil].SumOfTOTOILPROD) AS AvgOfSumOfTOTOILPROD,
Avg(([SumOfTOTOILPROD])/1000) AS OIL
FROM [qry Sandhills Gas] INNER JOIN [qry Sandhills Oil] ON [qry
Sandhills Gas].ACTVDATE = [qry Sandhills Oil].ACTVDATE
WHERE ((([qry Sandhills Gas].ACTVDATE) Between Date()-8 And Date()-2));

Chester Kaup
Technical Assistant
Texas Gas Team/MidContinent Business Unit
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr 29 09:15:29 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:15:29 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Query results display problem
In-Reply-To: <193572B4E0FC1744BEDFEE63F82CEC9E0F978B@bocnte2k4.boc.chevrontexaco.net>
References: <193572B4E0FC1744BEDFEE63F82CEC9E0F978B@bocnte2k4.boc.chevrontexaco.net>
Message-ID: <12828735359.20040429161529@cactus.dk>

Hi Chester

Have you tried:

  Avg(CDbl([SumOfTOTOILPROD])/1000) AS OIL

/gustav


> I have a query that returns a 7 day average of some numbers and the 7
> day average divided by 1000. The regular 7 day average display fine but
> the 7 day average divided by 7 displays no decimal places. For example 7
> day average is 1027.28571429 but the seven day average divided by seven
> displays 1. I tried setting properties to fixed and 2 decimal places and
> got 1.00. Why does it display this way? Thanks. SQL if someone wants to
> look at it.

> SELECT Avg([qry Sandhills Oil].SumOfTOTOILPROD) AS AvgOfSumOfTOTOILPROD,
> Avg(([SumOfTOTOILPROD])/1000) AS OIL
> FROM [qry Sandhills Gas] INNER JOIN [qry Sandhills Oil] ON [qry
> Sandhills Gas].ACTVDATE = [qry Sandhills Oil].ACTVDATE
> WHERE ((([qry Sandhills Gas].ACTVDATE) Between Date()-8 And Date()-2));



From john at winhaven.net  Thu Apr 29 09:20:33 2004
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:20:33 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] User Defined Properties A97
In-Reply-To: <B20C5B1CB8A30543BD7A9F173F29CCFDAABB31@abw2ex1.au.baesystems.com>
Message-ID: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKIAELFFGAA.john@winhaven.net>

Terry,
I haven't seen anyone answer this question yet so here goes...

First off, I wouldn't recommend using reserved words for a user defined
"anything".

Here is a cutdown, basic function to recall a property:
Public Function ReadMyProp() As Variant
   ' Comments  : Returns the database user defined property: UDPrp
   ' Returns   : Variant
   On Error GoTo Error_Proc
   Dim db As DAO.Database
   Dim prp As DAO.Property
   Set db = CurrentDb
   Set prp = db.Properties("UDPrp")
   ReadMyProp = prp
Exit_Proc:
   Set prp = Nothing
   Set db = Nothing
   Exit Function
Error_Proc:
   If Err = 3270 Then
      'Error 3270 means that the property was not found.
   Else
      'Add additional Error Handling here
   End If
   GoTo Exit_Proc
End Function

HTH
John R. Bartow
WinHaven LLC
PO Box 130
Winneconne, WI 54986
920-582-7574
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Subject: [AccessD] User Defined Properties A97


I'm trying to use a custom property to store some changing information,
which works fine, but when I try to read it, it only returns the value that
was present when the database was opened.

Is this the way it works or can I read the changed info. I'm using the
following code to read the property 'Reference':

DBEngine(0)(0).Containers("Databases").Documents("UserDefined").Properties("
reference")

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From kaupca at chevrontexaco.com  Thu Apr 29 09:33:49 2004
From: kaupca at chevrontexaco.com (Kaup, Chester A)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:33:49 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query results display problem
Message-ID: <193572B4E0FC1744BEDFEE63F82CEC9E0273946C@bocnte2k4.boc.chevrontexaco.net>

That got it. Thanks. 

Chester Kaup
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 9:15 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Query results display problem


Hi Chester

Have you tried:

  Avg(CDbl([SumOfTOTOILPROD])/1000) AS OIL

/gustav


> I have a query that returns a 7 day average of some numbers and the 7 
> day average divided by 1000. The regular 7 day average display fine 
> but the 7 day average divided by 7 displays no decimal places. For 
> example 7 day average is 1027.28571429 but the seven day average 
> divided by seven displays 1. I tried setting properties to fixed and 2

> decimal places and got 1.00. Why does it display this way? Thanks. SQL

> if someone wants to look at it.

> SELECT Avg([qry Sandhills Oil].SumOfTOTOILPROD) AS 
> AvgOfSumOfTOTOILPROD,
> Avg(([SumOfTOTOILPROD])/1000) AS OIL
> FROM [qry Sandhills Gas] INNER JOIN [qry Sandhills Oil] ON [qry
> Sandhills Gas].ACTVDATE = [qry Sandhills Oil].ACTVDATE
> WHERE ((([qry Sandhills Gas].ACTVDATE) Between Date()-8 And
Date()-2));

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From serbach at new.rr.com  Thu Apr 29 09:52:07 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:52:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Using the shell() function
Message-ID: <20040429095207.264583357.serbach@new.rr.com>

Dear Group,

I'm in the thick of writing a custom EDI purchase order processing application in Access 2000. The 850 purchase orders are downloaded from the VAN (Value Added Network) mailbox using Windows FTP commands in a DOS batch file, and the additional documents (855 PO Acknowledgment, 856 Advance Ship Notice, 810 Invoice, and 997 Functional Acknowledgment) are uploaded to the mailbox with another DOS batch file using Windows FTP commands.

The process works, but I've had to insert MsgBox statements in the Access code alerting the user that he should wait until the DOS batch file has completed processing the FTP commands and is closed before continuing with the Access stuff.

My question is this: do any of you lot have any techniques for 1) determining when a DOS batch file has finished (that is, the title bar of the DOS window says "Finished"); and 2) closing those windows without user intervention?

I'm just about ready to tell my client that he should buy WS_FTP Pro so that we can set up a macro or whatever you do in WS_FTP to automagically download and upload and close the WS_FTP program. I'm still not sure about what to do in Access so that it knows that an external application has completed its operations. Is this a DDE thing?

I've been experimenting with the FMS Total Visual Sourcebook that I bought some time ago. It has a class library and some sample code for logging into an FTP site and selecting and downloading files. I just know, however, that my client will balk at the additional delay while I figure out an Access-only method for getting and sending EDI documents.

The DOS batch thing works but there are the additional clicks involved with closing the DOS window and then clicking the MsgBox OK button to continue processing. Any ideas?

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
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From jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com  Thu Apr 29 10:00:27 2004
From: jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com (jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:00:27 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Using the shell() function
Message-ID: <OF084B5C86.2A9CD70B-ON86256E85.0052133F-86256E85.00526FEA@us.bank-dns.com>


Here is code that I use:

Sub runftp()
Dim db As Database
Dim Mytitle
Dim ReturnValue
Dim myFTPDir As String
Dim strSQL As String
Dim qdf As QueryDef
Dim myfilenumber As String
Dim myfiledate As String
Dim myexportfile As String
Dim saveasname As String
Dim rst_Databases As Recordset
Dim rst_reports As Recordset
Dim myReportName As String
Dim mySaveName As String
Dim myftpfilename As String
Dim mylocation As String
Dim myfile As String
Dim mysection As String
Dim mykey As String
Dim myname As String
Dim sSetting
Dim mydatafile As String
Dim mymessage As String
Dim SearchPath As String
Dim FindStr  As String
Dim NumFiles As Integer
Dim NumDirs As Integer
Dim FileSize As Long
Dim FileNum As Integer
Dim mytext As String

'Create the Batch File for FTPing
SearchPath = CurrentDBDir
FindStr = "ftpbm.bat"
FileSize = FindFilesAPI(SearchPath, FindStr, NumFiles, NumDirs)
If NumFiles <> 0 Then
    Kill SearchPath & FindStr
End If

FileNum = FreeFile

Open SearchPath & "ftpbm.bat" For Output As #FileNum  'SearchPath & FindStr
For Input As #1
    mytext = "@Echo Off"
    Print #FileNum, mytext
    mytext = "TITLE FTP BONDMASTER FILES"
    Print #FileNum, mytext
    mytext = "Echo OFF"
    Print #FileNum, mytext
    mytext = "CLS"
    Print #FileNum, mytext
    mytext = "@ECHO FTPing BondMaster Data..."
    Print #FileNum, mytext
    mytext = "ftp -s:" & SearchPath & "bmftp.txt"
    Print #FileNum, mytext
' Close before reopening in another mode.
Close #FileNum

'Create FTP Script File
SearchPath = CurrentDBDir
FindStr = "bmftp.txt"
FileSize = FindFilesAPI(SearchPath, FindStr, NumFiles, NumDirs)
If NumFiles <> 0 Then
    Kill SearchPath & FindStr
End If

FileNum = FreeFile

Open SearchPath & "bmftp.txt" For Output As #FileNum  'SearchPath & FindStr
For Input As #1
    mytext = "open bmprod1.int.usbc.com"
    Print #FileNum, mytext
    mytext = "ftc_ftp"
    Print #FileNum, mytext
    mytext = "transfer"
    Print #FileNum, mytext

    Set db = DBEngine(0)(0)

    'If there is a record for the Operators Report create strings for FTP
here
    Set rst_reports = db.OpenRecordset("tblErrors")
    Set rst_Databases = db.OpenRecordset("tblDataBaseNames")
    If rst_reports.recordcount <> 0 Then
        rst_reports.MoveFirst
        Do Until rst_reports.EOF
            If InStr(1, rst_reports.Fields("Error"), "TAPEPBPASSWD") <> 0
Then
                rst_Databases.MoveFirst
                Do Until rst_Databases.EOF
                    If rst_reports.Fields("DataBase") =
rst_Databases.Fields("DataBaseLongName") Then
                        myFTPDir = rst_Databases.Fields
("DataBaseFTPAddressTapeFiles")
                        myReportName = right(rst_reports.Fields("Error"),
30)
                        mySaveName = "BMOperators.txt"

                        mytext = "cd " & myFTPDir
                        Print #FileNum, mytext

                        mytext = "get " & myReportName & " " &
Me.txtSavedDataLocation & mySaveName
                        Print #FileNum, mytext

                    End If
                    rst_Databases.MoveNext
                Loop
            End If
            rst_reports.MoveNext
        Loop
    End If

    'If there is a record for the Loan Bal Info Reports create strings for
FTP here
    Set rst_reports = db.OpenRecordset("tempreport")
    Set rst_Databases = db.OpenRecordset("tblDataBaseNames")
    If rst_reports.recordcount <> 0 Then
        rst_reports.MoveFirst
        Do Until rst_reports.EOF
            rst_Databases.MoveFirst
            Do Until rst_Databases.EOF
                If rst_reports.Fields("dbName") = rst_Databases.Fields
("DataBaseLongName") Then
                    myFTPDir = rst_Databases.Fields
("DataBaseFTPAddressTapeFiles")
                    myReportName = rst_reports.Fields("txtReport")
                    mySaveName = "LoanBalInfo-" & rst_Databases.Fields
("DataBaseLongName") & ".txt"

                    mytext = "cd " & myFTPDir
                    Print #FileNum, mytext
                    mytext = "get " & myReportName & " " &
Me.txtSavedDataLocation & mySaveName
                    Print #FileNum, mytext

                End If
                rst_Databases.MoveNext
            Loop
            rst_reports.MoveNext
        Loop
    End If

    mytext = "disconnect"
    Print #FileNum, mytext
    mytext = "close"
    Print #FileNum, mytext

' Close before reopening in another mode.
Close #FileNum

'***** This is the command to use when ftping so do not need message box
myftpfilename = CurrentDBDir & "ftpbm.bat"
Call ShellWait(myftpfilename, 1)

Set rst_Databases = Nothing
Set rst_reports = Nothing
Set db = Nothing
End Sub

THIS CODE IS IN ITS OWN MODULE

Option Compare Database
Option Explicit
'***************** Code Start ******************
'This code was originally written by Terry Kreft.
'It is not to be altered or distributed,
'except as part of an application.
'You are free to use it in any application,
'provided the copyright notice is left unchanged.
'
'Code Courtesy of
'Terry Kreft
Private Const STARTF_USESHOWWINDOW& = &H1
Private Const NORMAL_PRIORITY_CLASS = &H20&
Private Const INFINITE = -1&

Private Type STARTUPINFO
    cb As Long
    lpReserved As String
    lpDesktop As String
    lpTitle As String
    dwX As Long
    dwY As Long
    dwXSize As Long
    dwYSize As Long
    dwXCountChars As Long
    dwYCountChars As Long
    dwFillAttribute As Long
    dwFlags As Long
    wShowWindow As Integer
    cbReserved2 As Integer
    lpReserved2 As Long
    hStdInput As Long
    hStdOutput As Long
    hStdError As Long
End Type
Private Type PROCESS_INFORMATION
    hProcess As Long
    hThread As Long
    dwProcessID As Long
    dwThreadID As Long
End Type
Private Declare Function WaitForSingleObject Lib "kernel32" (ByVal _
    hHandle As Long, ByVal dwMilliseconds As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function CreateProcessA Lib "kernel32" (ByVal _
    lpApplicationName As Long, ByVal lpCommandLine As String, ByVal _
    lpProcessAttributes As Long, ByVal lpThreadAttributes As Long, _
    ByVal bInheritHandles As Long, ByVal dwCreationFlags As Long, _
    ByVal lpEnvironment As Long, ByVal lpCurrentDirectory As Long, _
    lpStartupInfo As STARTUPINFO, lpProcessInformation As _
    PROCESS_INFORMATION) As Long
Private Declare Function CloseHandle Lib "kernel32" (ByVal _
    hObject As Long) As Long
Public Sub ShellWait(Pathname As String, Optional WindowStyle As Long)
    Dim proc As PROCESS_INFORMATION
    Dim start As STARTUPINFO
    Dim ret As Long
    ' Initialize the STARTUPINFO structure:
    With start
        .cb = Len(start)
        If Not IsMissing(WindowStyle) Then
            .dwFlags = STARTF_USESHOWWINDOW
            .wShowWindow = WindowStyle
        End If
    End With
    ' Start the shelled application:
    ret& = CreateProcessA(0&, Pathname, 0&, 0&, 1&, _
            NORMAL_PRIORITY_CLASS, 0&, 0&, start, proc)
    ' Wait for the shelled application to finish:
    ret& = WaitForSingleObject(proc.hProcess, INFINITE)
    ret& = CloseHandle(proc.hProcess)
End Sub

'***************** Code End ****************


                                                                                                                                               
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Dear Group,

I'm in the thick of writing a custom EDI purchase order processing
application in Access 2000. The 850 purchase orders are downloaded from the
VAN (Value Added Network) mailbox using Windows FTP commands in a DOS batch
file, and the additional documents (855 PO Acknowledgment, 856 Advance Ship
Notice, 810 Invoice, and 997 Functional Acknowledgment) are uploaded to the
mailbox with another DOS batch file using Windows FTP commands.

The process works, but I've had to insert MsgBox statements in the Access
code alerting the user that he should wait until the DOS batch file has
completed processing the FTP commands and is closed before continuing with
the Access stuff.

My question is this: do any of you lot have any techniques for 1)
determining when a DOS batch file has finished (that is, the title bar of
the DOS window says "Finished"); and 2) closing those windows without user
intervention?

I'm just about ready to tell my client that he should buy WS_FTP Pro so
that we can set up a macro or whatever you do in WS_FTP to automagically
download and upload and close the WS_FTP program. I'm still not sure about
what to do in Access so that it knows that an external application has
completed its operations. Is this a DDE thing?

I've been experimenting with the FMS Total Visual Sourcebook that I bought
some time ago. It has a class library and some sample code for logging into
an FTP site and selecting and downloading files. I just know, however, that
my client will balk at the additional delay while I figure out an
Access-only method for getting and sending EDI documents.

The DOS batch thing works but there are the additional clicks involved with
closing the DOS window and then clicking the MsgBox OK button to continue
processing. Any ideas?

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504

"One of the differences in the two parties is that the Republicans always
have problems filling many of the offices that are political, because most
competent people would rather do something other than work for the
government..." - Jerry Pournelle

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From greggs at msn.com  Thu Apr 29 10:20:15 2004
From: greggs at msn.com (Gregg)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:20:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K Repair
In-Reply-To: <12828735359.20040429161529@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <MOELIKDOANGCHBBIGOLICECDEDAA.greggs@msn.com>

I have a database that won't repair.  It is password protected and the first
time I tried it, it would ask for the password, say it needs to be repaired,
then say the password was invalid.  Loading SP3 got me past the invalid
password issue. Then the repair would go half way and stop.  When I used
jetcomp on it, it went half way and closed creating the new database.  When
I try to open the new database I get the message "Could not create... no
modify design permission for table or query msysaccessobjects."  I also
tried to upgrade it to 2003, got the repair message , then said it couldn't.

Everything I have read says it's toast.  Is that True?  There are no backups
for at least a month. Any way to get the data back?

Thanks!

Gregg Steinbrenner




From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr 29 10:24:18 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:24:18 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Using the shell() function
In-Reply-To: <20040429095207.264583357.serbach@new.rr.com>
References: <20040429095207.264583357.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <1132863725.20040429172418@cactus.dk>

Hi Steven

I hate to repeat myself, but having had a similar experience, I would
recommend to use the 3D-FTP engine which works extremely reliable:

  http://www.3dftp.com

and the API guide:

  http://www.3dftp.com/api.htm

As it runs multi-threaded uploads are very fast.
However, if USD 40 is too much, go and get the free wcl_ftp14 at:

  http://www.pacific.net/~ken/software/

Note the link to a ready-to-use Access 2000 module some nice guy has
contributed.

It is not as versatile as 3D-FTP (which I can offer you a code snippet
for) but it does feature a visual indication which is what the users
request for large batch uploads.

/gustav


> I'm in the thick of writing a custom EDI purchase order processing application in Access 2000. The 850 purchase orders are downloaded from the VAN (Value Added Network) mailbox using Windows FTP
> commands in a DOS batch file, and the additional documents (855 PO Acknowledgment, 856 Advance Ship Notice, 810 Invoice, and 997 Functional Acknowledgment) are uploaded to the mailbox with another
> DOS batch file using Windows FTP commands.

> The process works, but I've had to insert MsgBox statements in the Access code alerting the user that he should wait until the DOS batch file has completed processing the FTP commands and is closed
> before continuing with the Access stuff.

> My question is this: do any of you lot have any techniques for 1) determining when a DOS batch file has finished (that is, the title bar of the DOS window says "Finished"); and 2) closing those
> windows without user intervention?

> I'm just about ready to tell my client that he should buy WS_FTP Pro so that we can set up a macro or whatever you do in WS_FTP to automagically download and upload and close the WS_FTP program.
> I'm still not sure about what to do in Access so that it knows that an external application has completed its operations. Is this a DDE thing?

> I've been experimenting with the FMS Total Visual Sourcebook that I bought some time ago. It has a class library and some sample code for logging into an FTP site and selecting and downloading
> files. I just know, however, that my client will balk at the additional delay while I figure out an Access-only method for getting and sending EDI documents.

> The DOS batch thing works but there are the additional clicks involved with closing the DOS window and then clicking the MsgBox OK button to continue processing. Any ideas?



From serbach at new.rr.com  Thu Apr 29 11:00:01 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 11:00:01 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Using the shell() function
Message-ID: <20040429110001.206625495.serbach@new.rr.com>

Gustav,

>> I hate to repeat myself <<

I hope that you're referring to the world at large and not to me specifically, as I don't remember reading any reference to another FTP program. But then again I don't read every AccessD message.

I'm not opposed to spending money for a decent program. I purchased WS_FTP Pro. What's different about 3D-FTP?

Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504
 
Security and Virus information:
http://www.swerbach.com/security



From michael.broesdorf at web.de  Thu Apr 29 11:37:15 2004
From: michael.broesdorf at web.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Michael_Br=F6sdorf?=)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 18:37:15 +0200
Subject: Solved: [AccessD] Strange problem with reports
In-Reply-To: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF407AD8231@xlivmbx12.aig.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBIILOPOPJBCLJIJHHOEPBFGAA.michael.broesdorf@web.de>

The database was in Access 2000 format and the problem occured if it was run
under Access 2003 only.
Converting the file to the Access 2002/2003 format solved the problem.

Thanks for your suggestions!

Michael

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Heenan,
Lambert
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. April 2004 15:58
An: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Betreff: RE: [AccessD] Strange problem with reports


When weird stuff like that starts happening I say, back up the database and
then decompile it. If that does not solve the problem then it's probably
time to start a new database and import all the objects in you problem
database. The report in question may be corrupt and so may not import. It
will have to be rebuilt from scratch.

FWIW

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Michael Br?sdorf [SMTP:michael.broesdorf at web.de]
> Sent:	Tuesday, April 27, 2004 8:33 AM
> To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject:	[AccessD] Strange problem with reports
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am having a strange problem with reports in an Access 2003 application:
>
> The app is running on a Citrix Metaframe XP server. The report is opened
> in
> print preview. If I change something in the page setup (e.g. paper size or
> margins), an error message shows up when the report is closed or saves
> (CTRL-S):
>
> 'You can't set the Event Proc Prefix property in print preview or after
> printing has started.
> Try setting this property in the OnOpen event.'
>
> None of my code tries to change that property.
>
> What could that be?
>
> Michael
>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr 29 11:39:08 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 18:39:08 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Using the shell() function
In-Reply-To: <20040429110001.206625495.serbach@new.rr.com>
References: <20040429110001.206625495.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <10037353811.20040429183908@cactus.dk>

Hi Steven

>>> I hate to repeat myself <<

> I hope that you're referring to the world at large and not to me
> specifically, as I don't remember reading any reference to another
> FTP program. But then again I don't read every AccessD message.  

Well, that explains - I did mail a message 2004-04-22 on this when you
complained the first time. Anyway ...

> I'm not opposed to spending money for a decent program. I purchased
> WS_FTP Pro. What's different about 3D-FTP? 

It features an API which allow you to automate it. There is a very
simple example on their site but in practice you have to do a lot of
checking (paths, files, etc.) before you have a robust routine.

You can download everything for free for evaluation, so you can easily
check it out.

It has run in version 4 at one of our clients for several years
without a single problem where they upload over thousand picture files
per run for a web site. As hosting companies' ftp servers are quite
capable, 3D-FTP can stress these to their limits which results in very
fast upload sessions.

If you like, you can get my module which, of course, is heavily
customized but I'm convinced you can easily extract what you need and
modify it.

A note: wcl_ftp is mainly for transfer of one file per session, thus I
use it for situations where only, say, a backup cab-file is to be
uploaded.

/gustav



From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Thu Apr 29 12:00:16 2004
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:00:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT Digital Shakespeare
Message-ID: <s090fc7c.012@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

Yeah, I got both these sayings from another site called "ThinkGeek.com",
and they have been hanging in my office for the past couple of years.
Actually, they had been written on my whiteboard--for so long that the
shadow will remain forever--but I've been thinking of making a nice sign
with these sayings. The SQL statement is actually my favorite, and it
has become sort of a theme. I can have it hanging in plain sight, and my
users don't get it...sort of like when I tell them they are experiencing
an "i-D-10-t" problem, which is more effective verbally.

>>> Developer at ultradnt.com 4/29/2004 9:44:12 AM >>>
This is more like a Friday thread, but the 2b thing reminded me of
this.
Theres a lot of t-shirts and other items with these types of sayings
in
a catalog called "Computer Gear" (no affiliation).
My fave t-shirt is:

SELECT * FROM users WHERE clue=true
0 Rows Returned


There's also an "RTFM" shirt, and one that says "There are 10 kinds of
people in this world, those who understand binary, and those who
don't".


Steve




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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan
Harkins
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 10:15 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Digital Shakespeare


Shakespeare always gets a little lost in the translation. ;) 

Susan H. 

Surely

or(2B,!2B)


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From donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com  Thu Apr 29 12:14:21 2004
From: donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com (Mcgillivray, Donald [ITS])
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 12:14:21 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Using the shell() function
Message-ID: <6FC1C7A6E7BD5540AB0A8436713C43BF084AD6CF@PKDWB01C.ad.sprint.com>

Steve,

I don't know if what I'm doing is similar to what you need to
accomplish, but I've been working on a project that requires data
capture via FTP.  I found a nifty program called WebDrive
(http://www.webdrive.com) that allows you to map FTP sites as drives.
In my db, I'm using a combination of VBA file manipulation functions
(Dir, FileCopy, etc.) and Scripting FSO functionality to get and read
text files via FTP.  You can refer to WebDrives using UNC or specific
drive letters, and user names and passwords can be saved with the
mappings so that they reconnect automatically upon system startup.  Best
$40 I've spent in the last month or so . . .

Hope this helps.

Don McGillivray

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steven W.
Erbach
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 7:52 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Using the shell() function


Dear Group,

I'm in the thick of writing a custom EDI purchase order processing
application in Access 2000. The 850 purchase orders are downloaded from
the VAN (Value Added Network) mailbox using Windows FTP commands in a
DOS batch file, and the additional documents (855 PO Acknowledgment, 856
Advance Ship Notice, 810 Invoice, and 997 Functional Acknowledgment) are
uploaded to the mailbox with another DOS batch file using Windows FTP
commands.

The process works, but I've had to insert MsgBox statements in the
Access code alerting the user that he should wait until the DOS batch
file has completed processing the FTP commands and is closed before
continuing with the Access stuff.

My question is this: do any of you lot have any techniques for 1)
determining when a DOS batch file has finished (that is, the title bar
of the DOS window says "Finished"); and 2) closing those windows without
user intervention?

I'm just about ready to tell my client that he should buy WS_FTP Pro so
that we can set up a macro or whatever you do in WS_FTP to automagically
download and upload and close the WS_FTP program. I'm still not sure
about what to do in Access so that it knows that an external application
has completed its operations. Is this a DDE thing?

I've been experimenting with the FMS Total Visual Sourcebook that I
bought some time ago. It has a class library and some sample code for
logging into an FTP site and selecting and downloading files. I just
know, however, that my client will balk at the additional delay while I
figure out an Access-only method for getting and sending EDI documents.

The DOS batch thing works but there are the additional clicks involved
with closing the DOS window and then clicking the MsgBox OK button to
continue processing. Any ideas?

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504

"One of the differences in the two parties is that the Republicans
always have problems filling many of the offices that are political,
because most competent people would rather do something other than work
for the government..." - Jerry Pournelle

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From serbach at new.rr.com  Thu Apr 29 12:16:42 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 12:16:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Shell 'discoveries'
Message-ID: <20040429121642.1497583085.serbach@new.rr.com>

Jim, Marty, William, Jim D., Gustav, Andy, and Jeffrey,

I'm embarrassed to say that I didn't check back with this thread until today. When I wrote my message I didn't expect any responses since it was pretty much a report, not a question.

Thank you for your input on this. Since the application currently requires multiple clicks of the mouse to download EDI documents and upload 997 acknowledgments, I think my customer will appreciate anything that can reduce the chance for "mousal tunnel".

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504

"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty." - John F. Kennedy, 1961



From serbach at new.rr.com  Thu Apr 29 12:17:07 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 12:17:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Using the shell() function
Message-ID: <20040429121707.1417978362.serbach@new.rr.com>

Gustav,

>> Well, that explains - I did mail a message 2004-04-22 on this when you
complained the first time. <<

You know, when I wrote that I didn't really think that anyone would comment since I was just "complaining", as you said. I just went back to look and voila! All sorts of responses. I'm sorry. I wasn't paying attention. Good grief! There was all kinds of good stuff in those replies.

>> If you like, you can get my module which, of course, is heavily
customized but I'm convinced you can easily extract what you need and
modify it. <<

Of course I would like that. What do I need to do?

Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504
 
"If you can't say anything nice, run for President." - Argus Hamilton



From slee at asu.edu  Thu Apr 29 12:20:59 2004
From: slee at asu.edu (S Lee)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:20:59 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Using the shell() function
Message-ID: <A7AF1AE70A8C124593A1AC831EFE46FE037ADFE5@ex3.asurite.ad.asu.edu>

I would like the module also, please.  Thanks

slee at asu.edu



>> If you like, you can get my module which, of course, is heavily
customized but I'm convinced you can easily extract what you need and
modify it. <<

Of course I would like that. What do I need to do?

Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504
 
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From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 29 12:23:59 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:23:59 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Using the shell() function
References: <20040429110001.206625495.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <003b01c42e0e$c21125a0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...you need to go back and read the archives Steve :(

William Hindman
"The world's becoming a museum of socialist failures." John Dos Passos


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From: "Steven W. Erbach" <serbach at new.rr.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Using the shell() function


> Gustav,
>
> >> I hate to repeat myself <<
>
> I hope that you're referring to the world at large and not to me
specifically, as I don't remember reading any reference to another FTP
program. But then again I don't read every AccessD message.
>
> I'm not opposed to spending money for a decent program. I purchased WS_FTP
Pro. What's different about 3D-FTP?
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve Erbach
> Scientific Marketing
> Neenah, WI
> 920-969-0504
>
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> http://www.swerbach.com/security
>
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From serbach at new.rr.com  Thu Apr 29 12:37:44 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 12:37:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Using the shell() function
Message-ID: <20040429123744.107487292.serbach@new.rr.com>

William,

>> ...you need to go back and read the archives Steve :( <<

You're right, of course. I've been working on this thing for a while and posting that message last Thursday was more a "here's what I found/did, for what it's worth" kind of message. I didn't come back to AccessD until today when I was looking for additional information.

Last week you wrote that you had a sample mdb "that's worked round the clock for years now." Any chance I might download it or get you to e-mail it to me?

Sincerely,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504

http://www.swerbach.com/security



From serbach at new.rr.com  Thu Apr 29 12:40:33 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 12:40:33 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Using the shell() function
Message-ID: <20040429124033.736785068.serbach@new.rr.com>

Don,

>> You can refer to WebDrives using UNC or specific
drive letters, and user names and passwords can be saved with the
mappings so that they reconnect automatically upon system startup. <<

That made me think of another long-standing problem I've been wrestling with: Access replication. Internet/Indirect replication requires drive letters...maybe this product can help me kill that second bird, too!

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504

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From lists at theopg.com  Thu Apr 29 12:54:20 2004
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 18:54:20 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] AXP and copying records in table view shuts Access
In-Reply-To: <945722037.20040429095155@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <000201c42e12$ffed5750$8f0d6bd5@netboxxp>

Hello All

I am using Access XP on Windows XP on several different machines.

Every now and then, when in a table and copying records (either from the
menu or by using CTRL+C) Access just shuts down, sometimes with an
unhandled error, sometimes it just vanishes. The problem is not limited
to a particular mdb or computer. I'm not sure yet (this may be a
coincidence) but it seems to happen on tables with a few yes/no
columns... Also, maybe another coincidence) it doesn't seem to happen
when I view the records through a query.

Anyone come across this or have any idea what the solution is?

Cheers

Mark



From michael.broesdorf at web.de  Thu Apr 29 12:51:35 2004
From: michael.broesdorf at web.de (=?us-ascii?Q?Michael_Brosdorf?=)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:51:35 +0200
Subject: AW: [AccessD] OT Digital Shakespeare
In-Reply-To: <s090fc7c.012@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBIILOPOPJBCLJIJHHOEPDFGAA.michael.broesdorf@web.de>

I don't get it: what is an 'i-D-10-t' problem??

Michael

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Von: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von John Clark
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. April 2004 19:00
An: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Betreff: RE: [AccessD] OT Digital Shakespeare


Yeah, I got both these sayings from another site called "ThinkGeek.com",
and they have been hanging in my office for the past couple of years.
Actually, they had been written on my whiteboard--for so long that the
shadow will remain forever--but I've been thinking of making a nice sign
with these sayings. The SQL statement is actually my favorite, and it
has become sort of a theme. I can have it hanging in plain sight, and my
users don't get it...sort of like when I tell them they are experiencing
an "i-D-10-t" problem, which is more effective verbally.

>>> Developer at ultradnt.com 4/29/2004 9:44:12 AM >>>
This is more like a Friday thread, but the 2b thing reminded me of
this.
Theres a lot of t-shirts and other items with these types of sayings
in
a catalog called "Computer Gear" (no affiliation).
My fave t-shirt is:

SELECT * FROM users WHERE clue=true
0 Rows Returned


There's also an "RTFM" shirt, and one that says "There are 10 kinds of
people in this world, those who understand binary, and those who
don't".


Steve




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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan
Harkins
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 10:15 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Digital Shakespeare


Shakespeare always gets a little lost in the translation. ;) 

Susan H. 

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Thu Apr 29 12:59:48 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 12:59:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] TransferText working sporadically.
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227B38@main2.marlow.com>

Our Payroll guy has an Access .mdb which imports data from our Hours program
(written in DataPoint), into Abra, our Payroll/HR package.  A few weeks ago,
that database stopped working, and it is failing on a line of code that is
DoCmd.TransferText.  It says it is unable to write to the database.

It works from my machine (Windows 2000, running Access 97), but not the
payroll guy's machine, (NT 4.0 workstation, access 97).

Both have the same service packs, etc.  

Any thoughts?

Drew


From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 29 13:05:32 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:05:32 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT Digital Shakespeare
References: <NEBBIILOPOPJBCLJIJHHOEPDFGAA.michael.broesdorf@web.de>
Message-ID: <004201c42e14$909194a0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...whooossssssshhhhhhhhh!!!!

William Hindman
"The world's becoming a museum of socialist failures." John Dos Passos


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Brosdorf" <michael.broesdorf at web.de>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 1:51 PM
Subject: AW: [AccessD] OT Digital Shakespeare


> I don't get it: what is an 'i-D-10-t' problem??
>
> Michael
>
> -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> Von: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von John Clark
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. April 2004 19:00
> An: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Betreff: RE: [AccessD] OT Digital Shakespeare
>
>
> Yeah, I got both these sayings from another site called "ThinkGeek.com",
> and they have been hanging in my office for the past couple of years.
> Actually, they had been written on my whiteboard--for so long that the
> shadow will remain forever--but I've been thinking of making a nice sign
> with these sayings. The SQL statement is actually my favorite, and it
> has become sort of a theme. I can have it hanging in plain sight, and my
> users don't get it...sort of like when I tell them they are experiencing
> an "i-D-10-t" problem, which is more effective verbally.
>
> >>> Developer at ultradnt.com 4/29/2004 9:44:12 AM >>>
> This is more like a Friday thread, but the 2b thing reminded me of
> this.
> Theres a lot of t-shirts and other items with these types of sayings
> in
> a catalog called "Computer Gear" (no affiliation).
> My fave t-shirt is:
>
> SELECT * FROM users WHERE clue=true
> 0 Rows Returned
>
>
> There's also an "RTFM" shirt, and one that says "There are 10 kinds of
> people in this world, those who understand binary, and those who
> don't".
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan
> Harkins
> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 10:15 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Digital Shakespeare
>
>
> Shakespeare always gets a little lost in the translation. ;)
>
> Susan H.
>
> Surely
>
> or(2B,!2B)
>
>
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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Thu Apr 29 13:06:48 2004
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:06:48 -0400
Subject: AW: [AccessD] OT Digital Shakespeare
Message-ID: <s0910c63.093@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

I wrote it the way that you say it, but if you put it
together...iD10t...or...idiot
 
John W Clark


>>> michael.broesdorf at web.de 4/29/2004 1:51:35 PM >>>

I don't get it: what is an 'i-D-10-t' problem??

Michael

-----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
Von: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von John Clark
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. April 2004 19:00
An: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Betreff: RE: [AccessD] OT Digital Shakespeare


Yeah, I got both these sayings from another site called
"ThinkGeek.com",
and they have been hanging in my office for the past couple of years.
Actually, they had been written on my whiteboard--for so long that the
shadow will remain forever--but I've been thinking of making a nice
sign
with these sayings. The SQL statement is actually my favorite, and it
has become sort of a theme. I can have it hanging in plain sight, and
my
users don't get it...sort of like when I tell them they are
experiencing
an "i-D-10-t" problem, which is more effective verbally.

>>> Developer at ultradnt.com 4/29/2004 9:44:12 AM >>>
This is more like a Friday thread, but the 2b thing reminded me of
this.
Theres a lot of t-shirts and other items with these types of sayings
in
a catalog called "Computer Gear" (no affiliation).
My fave t-shirt is:

SELECT * FROM users WHERE clue=true
0 Rows Returned


There's also an "RTFM" shirt, and one that says "There are 10 kinds of
people in this world, those who understand binary, and those who
don't".


Steve




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Harkins
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 10:15 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Digital Shakespeare


Shakespeare always gets a little lost in the translation. ;) 

Susan H. 

Surely

or(2B,!2B)


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From jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com  Thu Apr 29 13:12:22 2004
From: jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com (jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:12:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] TransferText working sporadically.
Message-ID: <OF52E0EAC9.2F63E40E-ON86256E85.0063F9D2-86256E85.00640219@us.bank-dns.com>


Do you both have the same rights to the target directory?


                                                                                                                                               
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Our Payroll guy has an Access .mdb which imports data from our Hours
program
(written in DataPoint), into Abra, our Payroll/HR package.  A few weeks
ago,
that database stopped working, and it is failing on a line of code that is
DoCmd.TransferText.  It says it is unable to write to the database.

It works from my machine (Windows 2000, running Access 97), but not the
payroll guy's machine, (NT 4.0 workstation, access 97).

Both have the same service packs, etc.

Any thoughts?

Drew
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Thu Apr 29 14:36:55 2004
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:36:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Using the shell() function
Message-ID: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF407AD8255@xlivmbx12.aig.com>

I deal with this probelm simply by having the batch file create an emptry
folder. Then it goes on and does whatever else it need to do. Meanwhile the
VBA code looks for the folder and keeps looping while it sees the folder.

At the end of the batch file I delete the sentinel folder and that then
allows the VBA code to proceed. The DOS Box closes automatically at the
termination of the batch file. Here's the code I use as an example...


Sub CreateFileInventory(ByVal sRootFolder As String)
' This sub creates and runs a batch file which builds a list of all the
files in all the subfolders
' of the root folder defined in sRootFolder. This is stored in a text file
for further processing

Const BATCHFILE = "C:\LSFINV.BAT"
Dim strComLine As String
Dim strCommand As String
Dim fHandle As Long
    DoCmd.Hourglass True
    fHandle = FreeFile
    Open BATCHFILE For Output As #fHandle
    strComLine = "DIR " & quote(sRootFolder & "*.*") & " /s /b >
C:\LSDOC.LST"
    Print #fHandle, "c:"
    Print #fHandle, "CD \"
    Print #fHandle, "MD LSFinv"
    Print #fHandle, strComLine
    Print #fHandle, "rd LSFinv"
    Close #fHandle
    strCommand = Environ("COMSPEC") & " /c " & BATCHFILE
    Shell strCommand, vbMinimizedNoFocus
    sSleep 1000 ' pause long enough to have the flag folder created
    While FileExists("C:\LSFinv")
        DoEvents
    Wend
    DoCmd.Hourglass False
    Kill BATCHFILE
End Sub

... and here are the three small helper routines that it uses...
'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

Function Quote(aString) As String
    Quote = """" & aString & """"
End Function

'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
Private Declare Sub sapiSleep Lib "Kernel32" _
        Alias "Sleep" _
        (ByVal dwMilliseconds As Long)

Sub sSleep(lngMilliSec As Long)
    If lngMilliSec > 0 Then
        Call sapiSleep(lngMilliSec)
    End If
End Sub

'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
Function FileExists(strFile As String) As Boolean
  ' Comments  : Determines if the file exists
  '             Works for hidden files and folders
  ' Parameters: strFile - file to check
  ' Returns   : True if the file exists, otherwise false
  Dim intAttr As Integer
  On Error Resume Next
  intAttr = GetAttr(strFile)
  FileExists = (Err.Number = 0)
End Function


HTH

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Steven W. Erbach [SMTP:serbach at new.rr.com ]
> Sent:	Thursday, April 29, 2004 10:52 AM
> To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject:	[AccessD] A2K: Using the shell() function
> 
> Dear Group,
> 
> I'm in the thick of writing a custom EDI purchase order processing
> application in Access 2000. The 850 purchase orders are downloaded from
> the VAN (Value Added Network) mailbox using Windows FTP commands in a DOS
> batch file, and the additional documents (855 PO Acknowledgment, 856
> Advance Ship Notice, 810 Invoice, and 997 Functional Acknowledgment) are
> uploaded to the mailbox with another DOS batch file using Windows FTP
> commands.
> 
> The process works, but I've had to insert MsgBox statements in the Access
> code alerting the user that he should wait until the DOS batch file has
> completed processing the FTP commands and is closed before continuing with
> the Access stuff.
> 
> My question is this: do any of you lot have any techniques for 1)
> determining when a DOS batch file has finished (that is, the title bar of
> the DOS window says "Finished"); and 2) closing those windows without user
> intervention?
> 
> I'm just about ready to tell my client that he should buy WS_FTP Pro so
> that we can set up a macro or whatever you do in WS_FTP to automagically
> download and upload and close the WS_FTP program. I'm still not sure about
> what to do in Access so that it knows that an external application has
> completed its operations. Is this a DDE thing?
> 
> I've been experimenting with the FMS Total Visual Sourcebook that I bought
> some time ago. It has a class library and some sample code for logging
> into an FTP site and selecting and downloading files. I just know,
> however, that my client will balk at the additional delay while I figure
> out an Access-only method for getting and sending EDI documents.
> 
> The DOS batch thing works but there are the additional clicks involved
> with closing the DOS window and then clicking the MsgBox OK button to
> continue processing. Any ideas?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Steve Erbach
> Scientific Marketing
> Neenah, WI
> 920-969-0504
> 
> "One of the differences in the two parties is that the Republicans always
> have problems filling many of the offices that are political, because most
> competent people would rather do something other than work for the
> government..." - Jerry Pournelle
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From mike.tope at dsl.pipex.com  Thu Apr 29 16:05:36 2004
From: mike.tope at dsl.pipex.com (Mike Tope)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 22:05:36 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] TransferText working sporadically.
References: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227B38@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <001201c42e2d$baab21c0$0207a8c0@TopEnergy>

Drew
Is the message really "Object is read-only" ?
File extension has to be .txt.
You may have set your machine years ago to get around it. There were ways.
Mike Tope


----- Original Message -----
From: <DWUTKA at marlow.com>
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: 29 April 2004 18:59
Subject: [AccessD] TransferText working sporadically.


> Our Payroll guy has an Access .mdb which imports data from our Hours
program
> (written in DataPoint), into Abra, our Payroll/HR package.  A few weeks
ago,
> that database stopped working, and it is failing on a line of code that is
> DoCmd.TransferText.  It says it is unable to write to the database.
>
> It works from my machine (Windows 2000, running Access 97), but not the
> payroll guy's machine, (NT 4.0 workstation, access 97).
>
> Both have the same service packs, etc.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Drew



From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Thu Apr 29 16:27:36 2004
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:27:36 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K Repair
Message-ID: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF407AD8264@xlivmbx12.aig.com>

Not much hope, but try importing all the objects in the database into a new,
empty database. 

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Gregg [SMTP:greggs at msn.com]
> Sent:	Thursday, April 29, 2004 11:20 AM
> To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject:	[AccessD] A2K Repair
> 
> I have a database that won't repair.  It is password protected and the
> first
> time I tried it, it would ask for the password, say it needs to be
> repaired,
> then say the password was invalid.  Loading SP3 got me past the invalid
> password issue. Then the repair would go half way and stop.  When I used
> jetcomp on it, it went half way and closed creating the new database.
> When
> I try to open the new database I get the message "Could not create... no
> modify design permission for table or query msysaccessobjects."  I also
> tried to upgrade it to 2003, got the repair message , then said it
> couldn't.
> 
> Everything I have read says it's toast.  Is that True?  There are no
> backups
> for at least a month. Any way to get the data back?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Gregg Steinbrenner
> 
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Thu Apr 29 16:56:01 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:56:01 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] TransferText working sporadically.
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227B40@main2.marlow.com>

Oh ya, forgot to mention.  From my machine it worked as me logged in, from
his machine, it gave the same error no matter who was logged in. (And I'm a
domain admin).

Drew

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jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 1:12 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Cc: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com; accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] TransferText working sporadically.



Do you both have the same rights to the target directory?


 

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                      Please respond to "Access

                      Developers discussion and

                      problem solving"

 

 





Our Payroll guy has an Access .mdb which imports data from our Hours
program
(written in DataPoint), into Abra, our Payroll/HR package.  A few weeks
ago,
that database stopped working, and it is failing on a line of code that is
DoCmd.TransferText.  It says it is unable to write to the database.

It works from my machine (Windows 2000, running Access 97), but not the
payroll guy's machine, (NT 4.0 workstation, access 97).

Both have the same service packs, etc.

Any thoughts?

Drew
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Thu Apr 29 16:59:46 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:59:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] TransferText working sporadically.
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227B41@main2.marlow.com>

Actually, the extension is .dat.  And my machine is a brand new installation
(I had to rebuild it about a month ago.

That is a VERY good point though.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mike Tope
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 4:06 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] TransferText working sporadically.


Drew
Is the message really "Object is read-only" ?
File extension has to be .txt.
You may have set your machine years ago to get around it. There were ways.
Mike Tope


----- Original Message -----
From: <DWUTKA at marlow.com>
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: 29 April 2004 18:59
Subject: [AccessD] TransferText working sporadically.


> Our Payroll guy has an Access .mdb which imports data from our Hours
program
> (written in DataPoint), into Abra, our Payroll/HR package.  A few weeks
ago,
> that database stopped working, and it is failing on a line of code that is
> DoCmd.TransferText.  It says it is unable to write to the database.
>
> It works from my machine (Windows 2000, running Access 97), but not the
> payroll guy's machine, (NT 4.0 workstation, access 97).
>
> Both have the same service packs, etc.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Drew

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From demulling at centurytel.net  Thu Apr 29 17:26:00 2004
From: demulling at centurytel.net (Demulling Family)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:26:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] TransferText working sporadically.
In-Reply-To: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227B40@main2.marlow.com>
References: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227B40@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <409180F8.6090504@centurytel.net>

DWUTKA at marlow.com wrote:

>Oh ya, forgot to mention.  From my machine it worked as me logged in, from
>his machine, it gave the same error no matter who was logged in. (And I'm a
>domain admin).
>
>Well, it was worth asking, had a problem similar about a month ago and it was the user's rights to the network, not the case here.  Have you tried reinstalling Access on the machine?  Might work...
>
>
>
>
>  
>




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 29 17:29:22 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:29:22 +1000
Subject: AW: [AccessD] OT Digital Shakespeare
In-Reply-To: <NEBBIILOPOPJBCLJIJHHOEPDFGAA.michael.broesdorf@web.de>
References: <s090fc7c.012@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>
Message-ID: <40920E62.25988.351338@localhost>

On 29 Apr 2004 at 19:51, Michael Brosdorf wrote:

> I don't get it: what is an 'i-D-10-t' problem??
> 
Similar to a PEBCAK fault.
...
...
...
...
...
...
...
...
...
...
...
...
...
...
...

Problem Exists Between Chair and Keyboard :-)

 
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From jwelz at hotmail.com  Thu Apr 29 18:00:25 2004
From: jwelz at hotmail.com (Jürgen Welz)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:00:25 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] User Defined Properties A97
Message-ID: <BAY2-F37xFEerfkdL3Q000346e8@hotmail.com>

Just guessing but I suspect that the problem is that DBEngine(0)(0) is only 
going to see the collections as at the time the database was opened or the 
last time CurrentDb was called.  If you replace DBEngine(0)(0) with 
CurrentDb, I suspect you will see the current property value.


Ciao
J?rgen Welz
Edmonton, Alberta
jwelz at hotmail.com

>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MACE, Terry
>Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 9:54 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: [AccessD] User Defined Properties A97
>
>
>I'm trying to use a custom property to store some changing information,
>which works fine, but when I try to read it, it only returns the value that
>was present when the database was opened.
>
>Is this the way it works or can I read the changed info. I'm using the
>following code to read the property 'Reference':
>
>DBEngine(0)(0).Containers("Databases").Documents("UserDefined").Properties("
>reference")
>
>Terry Mace
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From lists at theopg.com  Thu Apr 22 12:23:57 2004
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 18:23:57 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP Runtime and Autocad
In-Reply-To: <8614878414.20040413132824@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <000201c4288e$a5634530$0f0b6bd5@netboxxp>

Hello All...

We are using Access XP runtime on Windos XP and today a couple of
machines completely failed to load any access database. In both cases
Autocad 2002 had been installed this morning. You could get into simple
databases, but as soon as you load a form that contains a list or tree
control (mscomctl.ocx) access falls over offering to restart and send a
message to Microsoft... Nothing usefull really.

Anyone out there know what could be causing this problem?

Cheers

Mark



From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 29 20:13:44 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 21:13:44 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP Runtime and Autocad
References: <000201c4288e$a5634530$0f0b6bd5@netboxxp>
Message-ID: <000801c42e50$61dcacd0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...I'd try reapplying SP3 for the AXP runtime first ...if AutoCad replaced
it, the SP3 contains the current version ...that's assuming of course that
AutoCad didn't make the crc and version id exactly the same as the MS
version ...I remember the chaos AOL caused when they did something similar
with a number of files in their version 5.

...if the SP3 doesn't fix the problem I'd drop to DOS and delete the
mscomctl.ocx and then try SP3 again.

...if that doesn't work, its time for System Restore ...hth :)

William Hindman
"The world's becoming a museum of socialist failures." John Dos Passos


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To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 1:23 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP Runtime and Autocad


> Hello All...
>
> We are using Access XP runtime on Windos XP and today a couple of
> machines completely failed to load any access database. In both cases
> Autocad 2002 had been installed this morning. You could get into simple
> databases, but as soon as you load a form that contains a list or tree
> control (mscomctl.ocx) access falls over offering to restart and send a
> message to Microsoft... Nothing usefull really.
>
> Anyone out there know what could be causing this problem?
>
> Cheers
>
> Mark
>
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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Apr 29 22:54:52 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 13:54:52 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Rich Text Stuff I suppose
Message-ID: <011401c42e66$e43ab0d0$48619a89@DDICK>

Hello all
Can anyone point me to some good examples of using rich text boxes? Then have the result viewable on a report?

What I want is for the user to create a standard welcome letter for any new customers added to the dB
EG I Want the user to be able to do a basic kind of merge, something like...
Hi <<CustomerFirstName>>
Welcome to the mailing list for <<ProductLine>>.
We here at all MsDatabasesR4U are happy to have you aboard.

And have say...the word "MsDatabasesR4U" in bold for example

I have code for getting data into the tags eg <<ContactFirstName>> and <<ProductLine>>
But what I want is the ability for my data entry people to create such text in some sort of RTBox
bound to a memo field somewhere in a table. Then produce a report bound to the same memo field and have the
same formatting eg "MsDatabasesR4U" in bold - on this report with my data filling in the tags.

Sorry for the long post

Any suggestions or pointers?

Many thanks in advance

Darren




From greggs at msn.com  Thu Apr 29 23:45:43 2004
From: greggs at msn.com (Gregg)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 23:45:43 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K Repair
In-Reply-To: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF407AD8264@xlivmbx12.aig.com>
Message-ID: <MOELIKDOANGCHBBIGOLICEDAEDAA.greggs@msn.com>

Tried that... get the "Not a database message"

But Thanks!

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 4:28 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: 'greggs at msn.com'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K Repair


Not much hope, but try importing all the objects in the database into a new,
empty database.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Gregg [SMTP:greggs at msn.com]
> Sent:	Thursday, April 29, 2004 11:20 AM
> To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject:	[AccessD] A2K Repair
>
> I have a database that won't repair.  It is password protected and the
> first
> time I tried it, it would ask for the password, say it needs to be
> repaired,
> then say the password was invalid.  Loading SP3 got me past the invalid
> password issue. Then the repair would go half way and stop.  When I used
> jetcomp on it, it went half way and closed creating the new database.
> When
> I try to open the new database I get the message "Could not create... no
> modify design permission for table or query msysaccessobjects."  I also
> tried to upgrade it to 2003, got the repair message , then said it
> couldn't.
>
> Everything I have read says it's toast.  Is that True?  There are no
> backups
> for at least a month. Any way to get the data back?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Gregg Steinbrenner
>
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From michael.broesdorf at web.de  Fri Apr 30 01:57:25 2004
From: michael.broesdorf at web.de (=?us-ascii?Q?Michael_Brosdorf?=)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:57:25 +0200
Subject: AW: AW: [AccessD] OT Digital Shakespeare
In-Reply-To: <s0910c63.093@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBIILOPOPJBCLJIJHHMEPKFGAA.michael.broesdorf@web.de>

I guess I should'nt have asked... 

:-))

Michael

-----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
Von: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von John Clark
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. April 2004 20:07
An: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Betreff: Re: AW: [AccessD] OT Digital Shakespeare


I wrote it the way that you say it, but if you put it
together...iD10t...or...idiot
 
John W Clark


>>> michael.broesdorf at web.de 4/29/2004 1:51:35 PM >>>

I don't get it: what is an 'i-D-10-t' problem??

Michael

-----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
Von: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von John Clark
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. April 2004 19:00
An: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Betreff: RE: [AccessD] OT Digital Shakespeare


Yeah, I got both these sayings from another site called
"ThinkGeek.com",
and they have been hanging in my office for the past couple of years.
Actually, they had been written on my whiteboard--for so long that the
shadow will remain forever--but I've been thinking of making a nice
sign
with these sayings. The SQL statement is actually my favorite, and it
has become sort of a theme. I can have it hanging in plain sight, and
my
users don't get it...sort of like when I tell them they are
experiencing
an "i-D-10-t" problem, which is more effective verbally.

>>> Developer at ultradnt.com 4/29/2004 9:44:12 AM >>>
This is more like a Friday thread, but the 2b thing reminded me of
this.
Theres a lot of t-shirts and other items with these types of sayings
in
a catalog called "Computer Gear" (no affiliation).
My fave t-shirt is:

SELECT * FROM users WHERE clue=true
0 Rows Returned


There's also an "RTFM" shirt, and one that says "There are 10 kinds of
people in this world, those who understand binary, and those who
don't".


Steve




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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan
Harkins
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 10:15 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Digital Shakespeare


Shakespeare always gets a little lost in the translation. ;) 

Susan H. 

Surely

or(2B,!2B)


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From lists at theopg.com  Fri Apr 30 03:10:44 2004
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 09:10:44 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP Runtime and Autocad
In-Reply-To: <000801c42e50$61dcacd0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
Message-ID: <000001c42e8a$a3396a30$8f0d6bd5@netboxxp>

Thanks William

Will have a go on Tuesday...

Mark

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William
Hindman
Sent: 30 April 2004 02:14
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access XP Runtime and Autocad


...I'd try reapplying SP3 for the AXP runtime first ...if AutoCad
replaced it, the SP3 contains the current version ...that's assuming of
course that AutoCad didn't make the crc and version id exactly the same
as the MS version ...I remember the chaos AOL caused when they did
something similar with a number of files in their version 5.

...if the SP3 doesn't fix the problem I'd drop to DOS and delete the
mscomctl.ocx and then try SP3 again.

...if that doesn't work, its time for System Restore ...hth :)

William Hindman
"The world's becoming a museum of socialist failures." John Dos Passos


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MarkH" <lists at theopg.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 1:23 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP Runtime and Autocad


> Hello All...
>
> We are using Access XP runtime on Windos XP and today a couple of 
> machines completely failed to load any access database. In both cases 
> Autocad 2002 had been installed this morning. You could get into 
> simple databases, but as soon as you load a form that contains a list 
> or tree control (mscomctl.ocx) access falls over offering to restart 
> and send a message to Microsoft... Nothing usefull really.
>
> Anyone out there know what could be causing this problem?
>
> Cheers
>
> Mark
>
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From viner at eunet.yu  Fri Apr 30 04:36:18 2004
From: viner at eunet.yu (Ervin Brindza)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:36:18 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Quick view of ico files
Message-ID: <000c01c42e96$d41c19c0$0100a8c0@razvoj>

I just downloaded from http://www.mvp-access.com/rubenvigon/recursos.htm over 11Mb of .ico and .avi files. Are there any way to browse them quickly?
TIA,
    Ervin


From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr 30 05:49:23 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 06:49:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Quick view of ico files
References: <000c01c42e96$d41c19c0$0100a8c0@razvoj>
Message-ID: <000801c42ea0$ccdb36a0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...in XP, you can just open them in explorer ...it will display the avis in
media player and use the MS Picture viewer to show the icons although, if
your explorer is configured properly, each icon will be shown in the pane
next to its file.

...don't much care for the avis but there are a number of well done and
useful icons in there ...thanks for the link :)

...there is some code available for browsing/viewing the bitmapped files
from within Access but I've not used it myself ...if that's what you were
looking for I can e you a sample mdb.

William Hindman
"The world's becoming a museum of socialist failures." John Dos Passos


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ervin Brindza" <viner at eunet.yu>
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 5:36 AM
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Quick view of ico files


I just downloaded from http://www.mvp-access.com/rubenvigon/recursos.htm
over 11Mb of .ico and .avi files. Are there any way to browse them quickly?
TIA,
    Ervin
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From serbach at new.rr.com  Fri Apr 30 06:15:18 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 06:15:18 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K Repair
Message-ID: <20040430061518.1467466482.serbach@new.rr.com>

Gregg,

The only other thing to try is to open it with the /decompile switch on the command line. Sorry.
 
Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504

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From serbach at new.rr.com  Fri Apr 30 06:17:22 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 06:17:22 -0500
Subject: AW: [AccessD] OT Digital Shakespeare
Message-ID: <20040430061722.2016038329.serbach@new.rr.com>

Stuart,

Or the NLIOC error: Nut Loose In Operator's Chair.

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI

"You must be an intellectual. No normal person would say a thing like that." - George Orwell



From viner at eunet.yu  Fri Apr 30 06:35:15 2004
From: viner at eunet.yu (Ervin Brindza)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 13:35:15 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Quick view of ico files
References: <000c01c42e96$d41c19c0$0100a8c0@razvoj>
	<000801c42ea0$ccdb36a0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
Message-ID: <003501c42ea7$5aba6e40$0100a8c0@razvoj>

> ...there is some code available for browsing/viewing the bitmapped files
> from within Access but I've not used it myself ...if that's what you were
> looking for I can e you a sample mdb.
>
Yes, yes! I want to take as quick look as I can, because there are more than
12k files, and in Win98/Windows Explorer it is hard to watch all those
little file icons...
Send me the sample, please!
TIA,
    Ervin




From Susan.Klos at fldoe.org  Fri Apr 30 06:38:12 2004
From: Susan.Klos at fldoe.org (Klos, Susan)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 07:38:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] How to create a 2 year multimonth report
Message-ID: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE73612@DOESEFPEML02.EUS.FLDOE.INT>

I have to create a summary report which has to include this year's data and
last year's data.  It is to look something like this:

Item      Jan 04   Jan 03   Feb 04  Feb 03  Mar 04  Mar 03

Meals      200      198        210   209      185       190

Rooms    30         28           34       34         29         31

 

I can do the summary for 04 and 03 but I can't figure out how to get the
months together like above.

 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

850-245-0708 

sc 205-0708

 



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Apr 30 08:45:53 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 06:45:53 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
Message-ID: <005201c42eb9$750c3be0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Dear List:

I am trying to create a Chinese language version of my product with the help of a contact in Taiwan.

As an initial test she translated the captions on the Main Menu.  I created a front-end language file table to hold the two forms of Chinese (simple and complex) and can add fields as I add languages.

I sent her the table but she sent back an excel file of the table with the translations.  When I open the Excel file the Chinese characters display correctly (of course, how would I know?).  

But when I copy one of these strings from the Excel cell into the language table in Access it shows as squares - undisplayable character, I assume.  So Excel displays the Chinese but not my Access.  

I'm stating down the Access Help route but if anyone knows how to get Access to display foreign characters can you give me a lead?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com



From rbgajewski at adelphia.net  Fri Apr 30 08:52:53 2004
From: rbgajewski at adelphia.net (Bob Gajewski)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 09:52:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
In-Reply-To: <005201c42eb9$750c3be0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <LHEEKEKNLFONONKPIOCJIEHEGEAA.rbgajewski@adelphia.net>

Rocky

Odds are real strong that you simply don't have the font installed that she
used.

Bob Gajewski


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 09:46
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language


Dear List:

I am trying to create a Chinese language version of my product with the help
of a contact in Taiwan.

As an initial test she translated the captions on the Main Menu.  I created
a front-end language file table to hold the two forms of Chinese (simple and
complex) and can add fields as I add languages.

I sent her the table but she sent back an excel file of the table with the
translations.  When I open the Excel file the Chinese characters display
correctly (of course, how would I know?).

But when I copy one of these strings from the Excel cell into the language
table in Access it shows as squares - undisplayable character, I assume.  So
Excel displays the Chinese but not my Access.

I'm stating down the Access Help route but if anyone knows how to get Access
to display foreign characters can you give me a lead?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr 30 03:50:13 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 10:50:13 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Using the shell() function
In-Reply-To: <6FC1C7A6E7BD5540AB0A8436713C43BF084AD6CF@PKDWB01C.ad.sprint.com>
References: <6FC1C7A6E7BD5540AB0A8436713C43BF084AD6CF@PKDWB01C.ad.sprint.com>
Message-ID: <767733890.20040430105013@cactus.dk>

Hi Donald

Interesting approach!

/gustav


> Steve,

> I don't know if what I'm doing is similar to what you need to
> accomplish, but I've been working on a project that requires data
> capture via FTP.  I found a nifty program called WebDrive
> (http://www.webdrive.com) that allows you to map FTP sites as drives.
> In my db, I'm using a combination of VBA file manipulation functions
> (Dir, FileCopy, etc.) and Scripting FSO functionality to get and read
> text files via FTP.  You can refer to WebDrives using UNC or specific
> drive letters, and user names and passwords can be saved with the
> mappings so that they reconnect automatically upon system startup.  Best
> $40 I've spent in the last month or so . . .

> Hope this helps.

> Don McGillivray



From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr 30 03:30:21 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 10:30:21 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] User Defined Properties A97
In-Reply-To: <BAY2-F37xFEerfkdL3Q000346e8@hotmail.com>
References: <BAY2-F37xFEerfkdL3Q000346e8@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <706541426.20040430103021@cactus.dk>

Hi Terry

I think J?rgen caught this one.
However, you should also be able to do a

  DBEngine(0)(0).Refresh

to view any changes.

/gustav


> Just guessing but I suspect that the problem is that DBEngine(0)(0) is only 
> going to see the collections as at the time the database was opened or the 
> last time CurrentDb was called.  If you replace DBEngine(0)(0) with 
> CurrentDb, I suspect you will see the current property value.


> Ciao
> J?rgen Welz
> Edmonton, Alberta
> jwelz at hotmail.com

>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MACE, Terry
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 9:54 PM
>>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>>Subject: [AccessD] User Defined Properties A97
>>
>>
>>I'm trying to use a custom property to store some changing information,
>>which works fine, but when I try to read it, it only returns the value that
>>was present when the database was opened.
>>
>>Is this the way it works or can I read the changed info. I'm using the
>>following code to read the property 'Reference':
>>
>>DBEngine(0)(0).Containers("Databases").Documents("UserDefined").Properties("
>>reference")
>>
>>Terry Mace



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Apr 30 09:11:27 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 07:11:27 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
References: <005201c42eb9$750c3be0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <007001c42ebd$0704fac0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Dear List:

OK.  I'm making some progress.  I changed the font on one of the labels to
Unicode MS copied the Chinese characters from the Excel spreadsheet to the
Caption in the property sheet for the control, and viola! it displays
Chinese!  When I look in my Access Language table, however, I still have
little boxes.  The caption also shows as little boxes in the property sheet
of the control.

I haven't written the public function yet to take the Chinese from the table
and put it into the caption (the function will also, I guess, have to change
the font to Arial Unicode MS), but I'm concerned that it may show boxes.

Maybe I should stop bothering you all and see how far I can get on this by
myself.

But I have to tell you it's very exciting.  In the old DOS days I did a
Chinese language version of this product with this woman in Taiwan and I
remember the thrill the first time my Main Menu came up in Chinese.

Still, if anybody has any advice for me, it's appreciated.

Regards,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com



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From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 6:45 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language


Dear List:

I am trying to create a Chinese language version of my product with the help
of a contact in Taiwan.

As an initial test she translated the captions on the Main Menu.  I created
a front-end language file table to hold the two forms of Chinese (simple and
complex) and can add fields as I add languages.

I sent her the table but she sent back an excel file of the table with the
translations.  When I open the Excel file the Chinese characters display
correctly (of course, how would I know?).

But when I copy one of these strings from the Excel cell into the language
table in Access it shows as squares - undisplayable character, I assume.  So
Excel displays the Chinese but not my Access.

I'm stating down the Access Help route but if anyone knows how to get Access
to display foreign characters can you give me a lead?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com

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From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr 30 09:17:19 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 10:17:19 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
References: <LHEEKEKNLFONONKPIOCJIEHEGEAA.rbgajewski@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <004201c42ebd$d9434e60$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...besides the font, you might want to check your Jet SPs ...earlier
versions of Jet4 had a number of problems with DBCS languages ...I needed to
use a Thai set on an mdb and even though the correct font was installed I
got a lot of extended characters instead and queries on that data would not
work either ...a Jet update cured the problem.

William Hindman
"The world's becoming a museum of socialist failures." John Dos Passos


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Gajewski" <rbgajewski at adelphia.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:52 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Chinese Language


> Rocky
>
> Odds are real strong that you simply don't have the font installed that
she
> used.
>
> Bob Gajewski
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 09:46
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> I am trying to create a Chinese language version of my product with the
help
> of a contact in Taiwan.
>
> As an initial test she translated the captions on the Main Menu.  I
created
> a front-end language file table to hold the two forms of Chinese (simple
and
> complex) and can add fields as I add languages.
>
> I sent her the table but she sent back an excel file of the table with the
> translations.  When I open the Excel file the Chinese characters display
> correctly (of course, how would I know?).
>
> But when I copy one of these strings from the Excel cell into the language
> table in Access it shows as squares - undisplayable character, I assume.
So
> Excel displays the Chinese but not my Access.
>
> I'm stating down the Access Help route but if anyone knows how to get
Access
> to display foreign characters can you give me a lead?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
> --
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> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
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>




From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Apr 30 09:37:17 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 07:37:17 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
References: <LHEEKEKNLFONONKPIOCJIEHEGEAA.rbgajewski@adelphia.net>
	<004201c42ebd$d9434e60$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
Message-ID: <007c01c42ec0$a3735660$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

William:

Which SP did you have to get to fix the problem?

At the moment I'm just working with captions and labels.  But when they
start putting in data and I'm operating onthe data, they might run into the
problem.


Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 7:17 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Chinese Language


> ...besides the font, you might want to check your Jet SPs ...earlier
> versions of Jet4 had a number of problems with DBCS languages ...I needed
to
> use a Thai set on an mdb and even though the correct font was installed I
> got a lot of extended characters instead and queries on that data would
not
> work either ...a Jet update cured the problem.
>
> William Hindman
> "The world's becoming a museum of socialist failures." John Dos Passos
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bob Gajewski" <rbgajewski at adelphia.net>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:52 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Chinese Language
>
>
> > Rocky
> >
> > Odds are real strong that you simply don't have the font installed that
> she
> > used.
> >
> > Bob Gajewski
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> > Beach Access Software
> > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 09:46
> > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
> >
> >
> > Dear List:
> >
> > I am trying to create a Chinese language version of my product with the
> help
> > of a contact in Taiwan.
> >
> > As an initial test she translated the captions on the Main Menu.  I
> created
> > a front-end language file table to hold the two forms of Chinese (simple
> and
> > complex) and can add fields as I add languages.
> >
> > I sent her the table but she sent back an excel file of the table with
the
> > translations.  When I open the Excel file the Chinese characters display
> > correctly (of course, how would I know?).
> >
> > But when I copy one of these strings from the Excel cell into the
language
> > table in Access it shows as squares - undisplayable character, I assume.
> So
> > Excel displays the Chinese but not my Access.
> >
> > I'm stating down the Access Help route but if anyone knows how to get
> Access
> > to display foreign characters can you give me a lead?
> >
> > MTIA
> >
> > Rocky Smolin
> > Beach Access Software
> > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> >
> > --
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> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
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> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> >
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> >
>
>
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Apr 30 09:47:14 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 07:47:14 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
References: <005201c42eb9$750c3be0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
	<007001c42ebd$0704fac0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <008401c42ec2$07136060$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Dear List:

It seems that I can change the caption of a control through code:

ctl.Caption = rs(gstrLanguage)

' Where gstrLanguage is the field name in the language table of the language
selected by the user

but I can't change the font:

If InStr(1, gstrLanguage, "Chinese") <> 0 Then ctl.font = "Arial Unicode MS"

gives me 'object soesn't support this property or method'.

Is there a way to change the font of a control?  This code will be running
in an mde so opening the form in design mode isn't an option.

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 7:11 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Chinese Language


> Dear List:
>
> OK.  I'm making some progress.  I changed the font on one of the labels to
> Unicode MS copied the Chinese characters from the Excel spreadsheet to the
> Caption in the property sheet for the control, and viola! it displays
> Chinese!  When I look in my Access Language table, however, I still have
> little boxes.  The caption also shows as little boxes in the property
sheet
> of the control.
>
> I haven't written the public function yet to take the Chinese from the
table
> and put it into the caption (the function will also, I guess, have to
change
> the font to Arial Unicode MS), but I'm concerned that it may show boxes.
>
> Maybe I should stop bothering you all and see how far I can get on this by
> myself.
>
> But I have to tell you it's very exciting.  In the old DOS days I did a
> Chinese language version of this product with this woman in Taiwan and I
> remember the thrill the first time my Main Menu came up in Chinese.
>
> Still, if anybody has any advice for me, it's appreciated.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 6:45 AM
> Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> I am trying to create a Chinese language version of my product with the
help
> of a contact in Taiwan.
>
> As an initial test she translated the captions on the Main Menu.  I
created
> a front-end language file table to hold the two forms of Chinese (simple
and
> complex) and can add fields as I add languages.
>
> I sent her the table but she sent back an excel file of the table with the
> translations.  When I open the Excel file the Chinese characters display
> correctly (of course, how would I know?).
>
> But when I copy one of these strings from the Excel cell into the language
> table in Access it shows as squares - undisplayable character, I assume.
So
> Excel displays the Chinese but not my Access.
>
> I'm stating down the Access Help route but if anyone knows how to get
Access
> to display foreign characters can you give me a lead?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
> -- 
> _______________________________________________
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr 30 10:17:37 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 17:17:37 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
In-Reply-To: <008401c42ec2$07136060$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
References: <005201c42eb9$750c3be0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
	<007001c42ebd$0704fac0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
	<008401c42ec2$07136060$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <10330977683.20040430171737@cactus.dk>

Hi Rocky

Try with .FontName

/gustav


> It seems that I can change the caption of a control through code:

> ctl.Caption = rs(gstrLanguage)

> ' Where gstrLanguage is the field name in the language table of the language
> selected by the user

> but I can't change the font:

> If InStr(1, gstrLanguage, "Chinese") <> 0 Then ctl.font = "Arial Unicode MS"

> gives me 'object soesn't support this property or method'.



From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Apr 30 10:36:18 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:36:18 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Subform to Subform Updating
In-Reply-To: <NDBBJLJAILLNMMEMJPEEIEONGLAA.doug@starntech.com>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIMEBBCCAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Douglas:

Have you checked this page out yet?
http://www.databaseadvisors.com/newletters/newsletter032004/0310ReferenceGui
de/SyntaxForSubs.htm
(Watch for wrap)

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Douglas Barnes
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 9:04 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Subform to Subform Updating


I have a main form with 2 subforms (sub1, sub2). I can add records to sub1
as it is related to the main form. I can't seem to add records to sub2,
which is related to sub1.

Any insight on this would be appreciated.


Douglas Barnes
Starn Technical Services
P. O. 1172
Meadville, PA 16335

814.724.1045

doug at starntech.com
www.starntech.com

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Apr 30 10:41:02 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:41:02 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
References: <005201c42eb9$750c3be0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
	<007001c42ebd$0704fac0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
	<008401c42ec2$07136060$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
	<10330977683.20040430171737@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <00fe01c42ec9$8b350b30$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Gustav:

Thanks you!!!  Forgot about that 'name' thing.  It worked perfectly.  The
E-Z-MRP Main Menu displays in Chinese!

Best,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Chinese Language


> Hi Rocky
>
> Try with .FontName
>
> /gustav
>
>
> > It seems that I can change the caption of a control through code:
>
> > ctl.Caption = rs(gstrLanguage)
>
> > ' Where gstrLanguage is the field name in the language table of the
language
> > selected by the user
>
> > but I can't change the font:
>
> > If InStr(1, gstrLanguage, "Chinese") <> 0 Then ctl.font = "Arial Unicode
MS"
>
> > gives me 'object soesn't support this property or method'.
>
> -- 
> _______________________________________________
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com



From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr 30 10:44:54 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:44:54 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
References: <LHEEKEKNLFONONKPIOCJIEHEGEAA.rbgajewski@adelphia.net><004201c42ebd$d9434e60$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
	<007c01c42ec0$a3735660$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <00ec01c42eca$1704d280$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...was a while back Rocky ...well before 8 so if you (and your client) have
the latest you should be ok ...I'm assuming that you're using A2K or AXP in
a W2K or WXP environment.

William Hindman
"The world's becoming a museum of socialist failures." John Dos Passos


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Chinese Language


> William:
>
> Which SP did you have to get to fix the problem?
>
> At the moment I'm just working with captions and labels.  But when they
> start putting in data and I'm operating onthe data, they might run into
the
> problem.
>
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 7:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Chinese Language
>
>
> > ...besides the font, you might want to check your Jet SPs ...earlier
> > versions of Jet4 had a number of problems with DBCS languages ...I
needed
> to
> > use a Thai set on an mdb and even though the correct font was installed
I
> > got a lot of extended characters instead and queries on that data would
> not
> > work either ...a Jet update cured the problem.
> >
> > William Hindman
> > "The world's becoming a museum of socialist failures." John Dos Passos
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Bob Gajewski" <rbgajewski at adelphia.net>
> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:52 AM
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Chinese Language
> >
> >
> > > Rocky
> > >
> > > Odds are real strong that you simply don't have the font installed
that
> > she
> > > used.
> > >
> > > Bob Gajewski
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky
Smolin -
> > > Beach Access Software
> > > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 09:46
> > > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear List:
> > >
> > > I am trying to create a Chinese language version of my product with
the
> > help
> > > of a contact in Taiwan.
> > >
> > > As an initial test she translated the captions on the Main Menu.  I
> > created
> > > a front-end language file table to hold the two forms of Chinese
(simple
> > and
> > > complex) and can add fields as I add languages.
> > >
> > > I sent her the table but she sent back an excel file of the table with
> the
> > > translations.  When I open the Excel file the Chinese characters
display
> > > correctly (of course, how would I know?).
> > >
> > > But when I copy one of these strings from the Excel cell into the
> language
> > > table in Access it shows as squares - undisplayable character, I
assume.
> > So
> > > Excel displays the Chinese but not my Access.
> > >
> > > I'm stating down the Access Help route but if anyone knows how to get
> > Access
> > > to display foreign characters can you give me a lead?
> > >
> > > MTIA
> > >
> > > Rocky Smolin
> > > Beach Access Software
> > > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> > >
> > > --
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > AccessD mailing list
> > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > >
> > >
> > > -- 
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> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > >
> >
> >
> > -- 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Apr 30 10:53:51 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:53:51 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] New Officers for the DBA
In-Reply-To: <20040429110001.206625495.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIMEBCCCAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi All:

Congratulations to our new elected board members. Elections were concluded
Wednesday, 28 of April 2004. We have a new President, Vice-president and
Secretary. Other board members remained in their current positions.

A heart felt thanks to our retiring board members. Their contribution and
hard work was very much appreciated. Thank you all.

The results have been posted at http://www.databaseadvisors.com/

Jim



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Apr 30 11:02:12 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 09:02:12 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
References: <LHEEKEKNLFONONKPIOCJIEHEGEAA.rbgajewski@adelphia.net>
	<004201c42ebd$d9434e60$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
	<007c01c42ec0$a3735660$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
	<00ec01c42eca$1704d280$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
Message-ID: <011801c42ecc$7fe35ef0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Yeah it's A2K and it's working beautiful right now.  But that's just label
and command button caption.  We'll see once they put in some data.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Chinese Language


> ...was a while back Rocky ...well before 8 so if you (and your client)
have
> the latest you should be ok ...I'm assuming that you're using A2K or AXP
in
> a W2K or WXP environment.
>
> William Hindman
> "The world's becoming a museum of socialist failures." John Dos Passos
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 10:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Chinese Language
>
>
> > William:
> >
> > Which SP did you have to get to fix the problem?
> >
> > At the moment I'm just working with captions and labels.  But when they
> > start putting in data and I'm operating onthe data, they might run into
> the
> > problem.
> >
> >
> > Rocky
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 7:17 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Chinese Language
> >
> >
> > > ...besides the font, you might want to check your Jet SPs ...earlier
> > > versions of Jet4 had a number of problems with DBCS languages ...I
> needed
> > to
> > > use a Thai set on an mdb and even though the correct font was
installed
> I
> > > got a lot of extended characters instead and queries on that data
would
> > not
> > > work either ...a Jet update cured the problem.
> > >
> > > William Hindman
> > > "The world's becoming a museum of socialist failures." John Dos Passos
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Bob Gajewski" <rbgajewski at adelphia.net>
> > > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:52 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Chinese Language
> > >
> > >
> > > > Rocky
> > > >
> > > > Odds are real strong that you simply don't have the font installed
> that
> > > she
> > > > used.
> > > >
> > > > Bob Gajewski
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky
> Smolin -
> > > > Beach Access Software
> > > > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 09:46
> > > > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear List:
> > > >
> > > > I am trying to create a Chinese language version of my product with
> the
> > > help
> > > > of a contact in Taiwan.
> > > >
> > > > As an initial test she translated the captions on the Main Menu.  I
> > > created
> > > > a front-end language file table to hold the two forms of Chinese
> (simple
> > > and
> > > > complex) and can add fields as I add languages.
> > > >
> > > > I sent her the table but she sent back an excel file of the table
with
> > the
> > > > translations.  When I open the Excel file the Chinese characters
> display
> > > > correctly (of course, how would I know?).
> > > >
> > > > But when I copy one of these strings from the Excel cell into the
> > language
> > > > table in Access it shows as squares - undisplayable character, I
> assume.
> > > So
> > > > Excel displays the Chinese but not my Access.
> > > >
> > > > I'm stating down the Access Help route but if anyone knows how to
get
> > > Access
> > > > to display foreign characters can you give me a lead?
> > > >
> > > > MTIA
> > > >
> > > > Rocky Smolin
> > > > Beach Access Software
> > > > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> > > >
> > > > --
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Apr 30 11:24:07 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 09:24:07 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] TransferText working sporadically.
In-Reply-To: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227B38@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIKEBDCCAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Drew:

I have no specific knowledge of your site but as an outside observer this
would be my approach:

If it was a user I would ask (suspiciously, I might add) has there been any
recent upgrades to the computers in question. (The answer is of course
always, NO.)

The problem might be with Abra...has it reach the 2 GB limit? (A lot of
older databases had that limitation not just Access)

If your accessing works fine maybe the Payroll guy is running some
procedures that you are not?

Is the Payroll guy using a different FE? if so maybe an update is warranted.

This is a few of the questions I would check out.

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 11:00 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] TransferText working sporadically.


Our Payroll guy has an Access .mdb which imports data from our Hours program
(written in DataPoint), into Abra, our Payroll/HR package.  A few weeks ago,
that database stopped working, and it is failing on a line of code that is
DoCmd.TransferText.  It says it is unable to write to the database.

It works from my machine (Windows 2000, running Access 97), but not the
payroll guy's machine, (NT 4.0 workstation, access 97).

Both have the same service packs, etc.

Any thoughts?

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From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr 30 11:23:48 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:23:48 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
References: <LHEEKEKNLFONONKPIOCJIEHEGEAA.rbgajewski@adelphia.net><004201c42ebd$d9434e60$6101a8c0@dejpolsys><007c01c42ec0$a3735660$6601a8c0@HAL9002><00ec01c42eca$1704d280$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
	<011801c42ecc$7fe35ef0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <001401c42ecf$849ce800$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...I'd think that data sorts could be a problem ...it is with Thai ...you'll
want your translator to test that pretty thoroughly.
...the other thing I ran into was a number of burps when the user had a full
Thai version of Access installed rather than my runtime.

William Hindman
"The world's becoming a museum of socialist failures." John Dos Passos


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Chinese Language


> Yeah it's A2K and it's working beautiful right now.  But that's just label
> and command button caption.  We'll see once they put in some data.
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 8:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Chinese Language
>
>
> > ...was a while back Rocky ...well before 8 so if you (and your client)
> have
> > the latest you should be ok ...I'm assuming that you're using A2K or AXP
> in
> > a W2K or WXP environment.
> >
> > William Hindman
> > "The world's becoming a museum of socialist failures." John Dos Passos
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 10:37 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Chinese Language
> >
> >
> > > William:
> > >
> > > Which SP did you have to get to fix the problem?
> > >
> > > At the moment I'm just working with captions and labels.  But when
they
> > > start putting in data and I'm operating onthe data, they might run
into
> > the
> > > problem.
> > >
> > >
> > > Rocky
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
> > > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 7:17 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Chinese Language
> > >
> > >
> > > > ...besides the font, you might want to check your Jet SPs ...earlier
> > > > versions of Jet4 had a number of problems with DBCS languages ...I
> > needed
> > > to
> > > > use a Thai set on an mdb and even though the correct font was
> installed
> > I
> > > > got a lot of extended characters instead and queries on that data
> would
> > > not
> > > > work either ...a Jet update cured the problem.
> > > >
> > > > William Hindman
> > > > "The world's becoming a museum of socialist failures." John Dos
Passos
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: "Bob Gajewski" <rbgajewski at adelphia.net>
> > > > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > > > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:52 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Chinese Language
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Rocky
> > > > >
> > > > > Odds are real strong that you simply don't have the font installed
> > that
> > > > she
> > > > > used.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bob Gajewski
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky
> > Smolin -
> > > > > Beach Access Software
> > > > > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 09:46
> > > > > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > > Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear List:
> > > > >
> > > > > I am trying to create a Chinese language version of my product
with
> > the
> > > > help
> > > > > of a contact in Taiwan.
> > > > >
> > > > > As an initial test she translated the captions on the Main Menu.
I
> > > > created
> > > > > a front-end language file table to hold the two forms of Chinese
> > (simple
> > > > and
> > > > > complex) and can add fields as I add languages.
> > > > >
> > > > > I sent her the table but she sent back an excel file of the table
> with
> > > the
> > > > > translations.  When I open the Excel file the Chinese characters
> > display
> > > > > correctly (of course, how would I know?).
> > > > >
> > > > > But when I copy one of these strings from the Excel cell into the
> > > language
> > > > > table in Access it shows as squares - undisplayable character, I
> > assume.
> > > > So
> > > > > Excel displays the Chinese but not my Access.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm stating down the Access Help route but if anyone knows how to
> get
> > > > Access
> > > > > to display foreign characters can you give me a lead?
> > > > >
> > > > > MTIA
> > > > >
> > > > > Rocky Smolin
> > > > > Beach Access Software
> > > > > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> > > > >
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Apr 30 11:31:17 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:31:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] TransferText working sporadically.
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227B4E@main2.marlow.com>

Abra was upgraded to a newer version of Foxpro.  but I don't see how that
would affect the TransferText funtion from importing a text file into Abra.
He is going to try it from a Windows 2000 machine, to see if it's a quirk
with NT 4.0.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
(AccessD)
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 11:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] TransferText working sporadically.


Hi Drew:

I have no specific knowledge of your site but as an outside observer this
would be my approach:

If it was a user I would ask (suspiciously, I might add) has there been any
recent upgrades to the computers in question. (The answer is of course
always, NO.)

The problem might be with Abra...has it reach the 2 GB limit? (A lot of
older databases had that limitation not just Access)

If your accessing works fine maybe the Payroll guy is running some
procedures that you are not?

Is the Payroll guy using a different FE? if so maybe an update is warranted.

This is a few of the questions I would check out.

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 11:00 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] TransferText working sporadically.


Our Payroll guy has an Access .mdb which imports data from our Hours program
(written in DataPoint), into Abra, our Payroll/HR package.  A few weeks ago,
that database stopped working, and it is failing on a line of code that is
DoCmd.TransferText.  It says it is unable to write to the database.

It works from my machine (Windows 2000, running Access 97), but not the
payroll guy's machine, (NT 4.0 workstation, access 97).

Both have the same service packs, etc.

Any thoughts?

Drew
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Apr 30 11:41:46 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 09:41:46 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
In-Reply-To: <005201c42eb9$750c3be0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIKEBECCAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Rocky:

Check the Excel spread sheet that was sent to you and you will find the name
of the font, probably 'msp mincho', imbedded in the sheet. If you save the
sheet as a web page the imbedded font will show up in the resulting html
code header. The computer using the program will probably have to be setup
to uses the character set in question, See:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;225865 for further
details.

HTH
Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 6:46 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language


Dear List:

I am trying to create a Chinese language version of my product with the help
of a contact in Taiwan.

As an initial test she translated the captions on the Main Menu.  I created
a front-end language file table to hold the two forms of Chinese (simple and
complex) and can add fields as I add languages.

I sent her the table but she sent back an excel file of the table with the
translations.  When I open the Excel file the Chinese characters display
correctly (of course, how would I know?).

But when I copy one of these strings from the Excel cell into the language
table in Access it shows as squares - undisplayable character, I assume.  So
Excel displays the Chinese but not my Access.

I'm stating down the Access Help route but if anyone knows how to get Access
to display foreign characters can you give me a lead?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Apr 30 12:15:47 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 10:15:47 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] TransferText working sporadically.
References: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227B4E@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <409289C3.5000503@shaw.ca>

ACC2000: How to Import a Text File That Has an Extension That Access 
Does Not Recognize
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;306144&Product=acc
Also check the registry key for disabled extensions on both machines as 
per above

DWUTKA at marlow.com wrote:

>Abra was upgraded to a newer version of Foxpro.  but I don't see how that
>would affect the TransferText funtion from importing a text file into Abra.
>He is going to try it from a Windows 2000 machine, to see if it's a quirk
>with NT 4.0.
>
>Drew
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
>(AccessD)
>Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 11:24 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] TransferText working sporadically.
>
>
>Hi Drew:
>
>I have no specific knowledge of your site but as an outside observer this
>would be my approach:
>
>If it was a user I would ask (suspiciously, I might add) has there been any
>recent upgrades to the computers in question. (The answer is of course
>always, NO.)
>
>The problem might be with Abra...has it reach the 2 GB limit? (A lot of
>older databases had that limitation not just Access)
>
>If your accessing works fine maybe the Payroll guy is running some
>procedures that you are not?
>
>Is the Payroll guy using a different FE? if so maybe an update is warranted.
>
>This is a few of the questions I would check out.
>
>HTH
>Jim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
>DWUTKA at marlow.com
>Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 11:00 AM
>To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] TransferText working sporadically.
>
>
>Our Payroll guy has an Access .mdb which imports data from our Hours program
>(written in DataPoint), into Abra, our Payroll/HR package.  A few weeks ago,
>that database stopped working, and it is failing on a line of code that is
>DoCmd.TransferText.  It says it is unable to write to the database.
>
>It works from my machine (Windows 2000, running Access 97), but not the
>payroll guy's machine, (NT 4.0 workstation, access 97).
>
>Both have the same service packs, etc.
>
>Any thoughts?
>
>Drew
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>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From garykjos at hotmail.com  Fri Apr 30 12:50:39 2004
From: garykjos at hotmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:50:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] New Officers for the DBA
Message-ID: <BAY2-F7sBXBLfhg35QY0001441a@hotmail.com>

Yes, congratulations to the new officers, John, Reuben and Susan and thaink 
you for volunteering your time and energy. And many thanks to Lembit, Donna 
and Patty for all the work you have put in over the past year.

Gary Kjos
garykjos at hotmail.com





>From: "Jim Lawrence (AccessD)" <accessd at shaw.ca>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: [AccessD] New Officers for the DBA
>Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:53:51 -0700
>
>Hi All:
>
>Congratulations to our new elected board members. Elections were concluded
>Wednesday, 28 of April 2004. We have a new President, Vice-president and
>Secretary. Other board members remained in their current positions.
>
>A heart felt thanks to our retiring board members. Their contribution and
>hard work was very much appreciated. Thank you all.
>
>The results have been posted at http://www.databaseadvisors.com/
>
>Jim
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Apr 30 13:45:08 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:45:08 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
References: <LHEEKEKNLFONONKPIOCJIEHEGEAA.rbgajewski@adelphia.net>
	<004201c42ebd$d9434e60$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
	<007c01c42ec0$a3735660$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
	<00ec01c42eca$1704d280$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
	<011801c42ecc$7fe35ef0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <40929EB4.2020403@shaw.ca>

You might want to pick up a used copy of this book on amazon or ebay
It is selling for anywhere between about $50 and $200 used (out of print)
The book rambles a bit and has been panned because it assumes a lot of 
OS and VB knowledge.
But should help you out with Jet collation problems in other languages, 
codepages and IME's.
 It doesn't cover the MS OS above Win 2000.

Internationalization With Visual Basic

 Author:  Michael Kaplan  
 Publisher:  Macmillan Computer Pub  
 ISBN:  0672319772      
 Publication Year:  2000 

Chapters from book
http://www.i18nwithvb.com/chapters/

In (simplified chinese) for your Chinese compatriots
ANSI or Unicode?
http://www.i18nwithvb.com/chapters/Chapter16_sc.htm
Testing International Software
http://www.i18nwithvb.com/chapters/Chapter06_sc.htm

i18N = Internationalization (or Globalization): mainly a program able to 
manage in any locale the locale language and settings.

M18N = Multinationalization: mainly a program able to manage (display 
and input) several languages in any locale.

L10N = Localization: mainly a program able to display its translated and 
adapted version to several locales.


Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:

>Yeah it's A2K and it's working beautiful right now.  But that's just label
>and command button caption.  We'll see once they put in some data.
>
>Rocky
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 8:44 AM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Chinese Language
>
>
>  
>
>>...was a while back Rocky ...well before 8 so if you (and your client)
>>    
>>
>have
>  
>
>>the latest you should be ok ...I'm assuming that you're using A2K or AXP
>>    
>>
>in
>  
>
>>a W2K or WXP environment.
>>
>>William Hindman
>>"The world's becoming a museum of socialist failures." John Dos Passos
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 10:37 AM
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Chinese Language
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>>>William:
>>>
>>>Which SP did you have to get to fix the problem?
>>>
>>>At the moment I'm just working with captions and labels.  But when they
>>>start putting in data and I'm operating onthe data, they might run into
>>>      
>>>
>>the
>>    
>>
>>>problem.
>>>
>>>
>>>Rocky
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
>>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>>><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 7:17 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Chinese Language
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>...besides the font, you might want to check your Jet SPs ...earlier
>>>>versions of Jet4 had a number of problems with DBCS languages ...I
>>>>        
>>>>
>>needed
>>    
>>
>>>to
>>>      
>>>
>>>>use a Thai set on an mdb and even though the correct font was
>>>>        
>>>>
>installed
>  
>
>>I
>>    
>>
>>>>got a lot of extended characters instead and queries on that data
>>>>        
>>>>
>would
>  
>
>>>not
>>>      
>>>
>>>>work either ...a Jet update cured the problem.
>>>>
>>>>William Hindman
>>>>"The world's becoming a museum of socialist failures." John Dos Passos
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>From: "Bob Gajewski" <rbgajewski at adelphia.net>
>>>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>>>><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>>Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:52 AM
>>>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Chinese Language
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>Rocky
>>>>>
>>>>>Odds are real strong that you simply don't have the font installed
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>that
>>    
>>
>>>>she
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>used.
>>>>>
>>>>>Bob Gajewski
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>Smolin -
>>    
>>
>>>>>Beach Access Software
>>>>>Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 09:46
>>>>>To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>>Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Dear List:
>>>>>
>>>>>I am trying to create a Chinese language version of my product with
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>the
>>    
>>
>>>>help
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>of a contact in Taiwan.
>>>>>
>>>>>As an initial test she translated the captions on the Main Menu.  I
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>created
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>a front-end language file table to hold the two forms of Chinese
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>(simple
>>    
>>
>>>>and
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>complex) and can add fields as I add languages.
>>>>>
>>>>>I sent her the table but she sent back an excel file of the table
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>with
>  
>
>>>the
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>translations.  When I open the Excel file the Chinese characters
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>display
>>    
>>
>>>>>correctly (of course, how would I know?).
>>>>>
>>>>>But when I copy one of these strings from the Excel cell into the
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>language
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>table in Access it shows as squares - undisplayable character, I
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>assume.
>>    
>>
>>>>So
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>Excel displays the Chinese but not my Access.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm stating down the Access Help route but if anyone knows how to
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>get
>  
>
>>>>Access
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>to display foreign characters can you give me a lead?
>>>>>
>>>>>MTIA
>>>>>
>>>>>Rocky Smolin
>>>>>Beach Access Software
>>>>>http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>>>>>
>>>>>--
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>
>>    
>>
>
>  
>

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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Apr 30 13:56:09 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:56:09 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
References: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIKEBECCAA.accessd@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <019901c42ee4$cd1393d0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Jim:

Well I did that but the html source was singularly uninformative.
Nevertheless, I've got the Chinese display working and it's lovely.

Now if I can get her to do the rest of the translation and take it to
mainland China, I'll be a billionaire. :)

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Lawrence (AccessD)" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:41 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Chinese Language


> Hi Rocky:
>
> Check the Excel spread sheet that was sent to you and you will find the
name
> of the font, probably 'msp mincho', imbedded in the sheet. If you save the
> sheet as a web page the imbedded font will show up in the resulting html
> code header. The computer using the program will probably have to be setup
> to uses the character set in question, See:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;225865 for further
> details.
>
> HTH
> Jim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 6:46 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> I am trying to create a Chinese language version of my product with the
help
> of a contact in Taiwan.
>
> As an initial test she translated the captions on the Main Menu.  I
created
> a front-end language file table to hold the two forms of Chinese (simple
and
> complex) and can add fields as I add languages.
>
> I sent her the table but she sent back an excel file of the table with the
> translations.  When I open the Excel file the Chinese characters display
> correctly (of course, how would I know?).
>
> But when I copy one of these strings from the Excel cell into the language
> table in Access it shows as squares - undisplayable character, I assume.
So
> Excel displays the Chinese but not my Access.
>
> I'm stating down the Access Help route but if anyone knows how to get
Access
> to display foreign characters can you give me a lead?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Apr 30 13:58:37 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:58:37 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
References: <LHEEKEKNLFONONKPIOCJIEHEGEAA.rbgajewski@adelphia.net>
	<004201c42ebd$d9434e60$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
	<007c01c42ec0$a3735660$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
	<00ec01c42eca$1704d280$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
	<011801c42ecc$7fe35ef0$6601a8c0@HAL9002> <40929EB4.2020403@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <01a301c42ee5$24d824f0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Marty:

That looks very useful.  Thanks.

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Chinese Language


> You might want to pick up a used copy of this book on amazon or ebay
> It is selling for anywhere between about $50 and $200 used (out of print)
> The book rambles a bit and has been panned because it assumes a lot of
> OS and VB knowledge.
> But should help you out with Jet collation problems in other languages,
> codepages and IME's.
>  It doesn't cover the MS OS above Win 2000.
>
> Internationalization With Visual Basic
>
>  Author:  Michael Kaplan
>  Publisher:  Macmillan Computer Pub
>  ISBN:  0672319772
>  Publication Year:  2000
>
> Chapters from book
> http://www.i18nwithvb.com/chapters/
>
> In (simplified chinese) for your Chinese compatriots
> ANSI or Unicode?
> http://www.i18nwithvb.com/chapters/Chapter16_sc.htm
> Testing International Software
> http://www.i18nwithvb.com/chapters/Chapter06_sc.htm
>
> i18N = Internationalization (or Globalization): mainly a program able to
> manage in any locale the locale language and settings.
>
> M18N = Multinationalization: mainly a program able to manage (display
> and input) several languages in any locale.
>
> L10N = Localization: mainly a program able to display its translated and
> adapted version to several locales.
>
>
> Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>
> >Yeah it's A2K and it's working beautiful right now.  But that's just
label
> >and command button caption.  We'll see once they put in some data.
> >
> >Rocky
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
> >To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> ><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 8:44 AM
> >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Chinese Language
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>...was a while back Rocky ...well before 8 so if you (and your client)
> >>
> >>
> >have
> >
> >
> >>the latest you should be ok ...I'm assuming that you're using A2K or AXP
> >>
> >>
> >in
> >
> >
> >>a W2K or WXP environment.
> >>
> >>William Hindman
> >>"The world's becoming a museum of socialist failures." John Dos Passos
> >>
> >>
> >>----- Original Message ----- 
> >>From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> >>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> >><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >>Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 10:37 AM
> >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Chinese Language
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>William:
> >>>
> >>>Which SP did you have to get to fix the problem?
> >>>
> >>>At the moment I'm just working with captions and labels.  But when they
> >>>start putting in data and I'm operating onthe data, they might run into
> >>>
> >>>
> >>the
> >>
> >>
> >>>problem.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Rocky
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message ----- 
> >>>From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
> >>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> >>><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >>>Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 7:17 AM
> >>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Chinese Language
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>...besides the font, you might want to check your Jet SPs ...earlier
> >>>>versions of Jet4 had a number of problems with DBCS languages ...I
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>needed
> >>
> >>
> >>>to
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>use a Thai set on an mdb and even though the correct font was
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >installed
> >
> >
> >>I
> >>
> >>
> >>>>got a lot of extended characters instead and queries on that data
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >would
> >
> >
> >>>not
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>work either ...a Jet update cured the problem.
> >>>>
> >>>>William Hindman
> >>>>"The world's becoming a museum of socialist failures." John Dos Passos
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>----- Original Message ----- 
> >>>>From: "Bob Gajewski" <rbgajewski at adelphia.net>
> >>>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> >>>><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >>>>Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:52 AM
> >>>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Chinese Language
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Rocky
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Odds are real strong that you simply don't have the font installed
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>that
> >>
> >>
> >>>>she
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>used.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Bob Gajewski
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >>>>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>Smolin -
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>Beach Access Software
> >>>>>Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 09:46
> >>>>>To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> >>>>>Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Dear List:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I am trying to create a Chinese language version of my product with
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>the
> >>
> >>
> >>>>help
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>of a contact in Taiwan.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>As an initial test she translated the captions on the Main Menu.  I
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>created
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>a front-end language file table to hold the two forms of Chinese
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>(simple
> >>
> >>
> >>>>and
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>complex) and can add fields as I add languages.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I sent her the table but she sent back an excel file of the table
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >with
> >
> >
> >>>the
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>translations.  When I open the Excel file the Chinese characters
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>display
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>correctly (of course, how would I know?).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>But when I copy one of these strings from the Excel cell into the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>language
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>table in Access it shows as squares - undisplayable character, I
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>assume.
> >>
> >>
> >>>>So
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Excel displays the Chinese but not my Access.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I'm stating down the Access Help route but if anyone knows how to
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >get
> >
> >
> >>>>Access
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>to display foreign characters can you give me a lead?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>MTIA
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Rocky Smolin
> >>>>>Beach Access Software
> >>>>>http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>--
> >>>>>_______________________________________________
> >>>>>AccessD mailing list
> >>>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> >>>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> >>>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>-- 
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> >>>>>AccessD mailing list
> >>>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> >>>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> >>>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>-- 
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> >>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> >>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>
> >>>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> -- 
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> Victoria, B.C.
> Canada
>
>
>
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From lists at theopg.com  Fri Apr 30 14:22:32 2004
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 20:22:32 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Sub form updates not immediately visible to parent
In-Reply-To: <409289C3.5000503@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <007001c42ee8$7c8fdd70$8f0d6bd5@netboxxp>

Hi all

Using AXP in WinXP

I have a very complex form and subform where the parent performs
calculations based, partly on, records accessed through the subform.
Inclusion of the subform records in the calcs is dependant on a yes/no
field being set to yes.

On the parent is a button which refreshes the calcs. If I change the
subforms yes/no value and then click the refresh button on the parent
straight away, the change is not always reflected in the calculations.
If I wait 5 or 6 seconds (working on a local backend) then everything is
fine.

I have spent a lot of time trying to simplify the code (the refresh
button being a result) but no matter what there is still a delay
resulting in the calcs not always being refreshed properly. I tried
requerying and saving in the subform both after the edit and when the
refresh button is clicked but I still get the same problem.

Any one got any pointers, I'd be real greatful.

Thanks and have a good weekend (I'm off at last)

Mark



From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Fri Apr 30 15:48:18 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 16:48:18 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Deployment Woes
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBBBD@nnse14.nns.com>

I need the weekend to think this over, but I'm open for suggestions.  Our
department currently utilizes an existing database which is not split.
There are an estimated 100 shortcuts to this database littered throughout
the department.  Do to a rising concern in "concurrency issues", I need to
split this db.  With such an ingrained dependency on the existing shortcut,
it was suggested that I utilize the existing db as nothing more than a
glorified .bat file starter to distribute the new FE and subsequently check
revision status.  This seems like an awful lot of overhead in order to
placate the existing user base, and obviously would increase start-up times.
What do you think?



Mark


From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Fri Apr 30 15:51:22 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 16:51:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Sub form updates not immediately visible to parent
In-Reply-To: <007001c42ee8$7c8fdd70$8f0d6bd5@netboxxp>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKAEOJJBAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Mark,

  Add a dbEngine.Idle after refreshing the subform records and just before
you do the calculations.  This will force JET to finish up it's background
tasks before continuing with code execution.

Jim
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MarkH
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 3:23 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Sub form updates not immediately visible to parent


Hi all

Using AXP in WinXP

I have a very complex form and subform where the parent performs
calculations based, partly on, records accessed through the subform.
Inclusion of the subform records in the calcs is dependant on a yes/no
field being set to yes.

On the parent is a button which refreshes the calcs. If I change the
subforms yes/no value and then click the refresh button on the parent
straight away, the change is not always reflected in the calculations.
If I wait 5 or 6 seconds (working on a local backend) then everything is
fine.

I have spent a lot of time trying to simplify the code (the refresh
button being a result) but no matter what there is still a delay
resulting in the calcs not always being refreshed properly. I tried
requerying and saving in the subform both after the edit and when the
refresh button is clicked but I still get the same problem.

Any one got any pointers, I'd be real greatful.

Thanks and have a good weekend (I'm off at last)

Mark

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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Fri Apr 30 16:06:45 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 17:06:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Deployment Woes
In-Reply-To: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBBBD@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKAEOKJBAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Mark,

  I've seen it done both ways; A "launcher" app as you outlined and a FE
which does it's version checks on it's own.

  The existing short cuts though are not really a big issue.  You can easily
have the existing app call a bat file which:

1. Deletes the existing shortcut.
2. Creates the directory structure on the client required for the local FE.
3. Copies down the new FE and supporting files.
4. Creates a new shortcut on the desktop to point to the local FE.
5. Creates a shortcut on the desktop to point to a bat file on the server to
use for future updates.

  I do my distribution sets in the latter mode and do a batch file as
outlined above.  The FE at startup compares an local table to the same table
that's in a the FE on the server.  If the two don't match versions (I placed
an new FE on the server), the app tells the user to update and quits.

  The update is nothing more then executing the bat file on the server,
which works as outlined as above.

  Personally I think it's a six one way half a dozen another type of thing.

Jim
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
S. (Newport News)
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 4:48 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Deployment Woes


I need the weekend to think this over, but I'm open for suggestions.  Our
department currently utilizes an existing database which is not split.
There are an estimated 100 shortcuts to this database littered throughout
the department.  Do to a rising concern in "concurrency issues", I need to
split this db.  With such an ingrained dependency on the existing shortcut,
it was suggested that I utilize the existing db as nothing more than a
glorified .bat file starter to distribute the new FE and subsequently check
revision status.  This seems like an awful lot of overhead in order to
placate the existing user base, and obviously would increase start-up times.
What do you think?



Mark
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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Fri Apr 30 16:14:05 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 16:14:05 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Deployment Woes
Message-ID: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE576@TAPPEEXCH01>

Mark,
I do that for all of my distributed apps.
Adds half a second to the startup time of an application (unless, of course,
it has to copy a new version of the FE to their workstation.)
Don't know how using a batch file would add to the overhead.  Can you
elaborate?

Oh yeah, here is a sample of my batch file.
- In our office, all users have the Access 2000 runtime installed on their
machines, and we use server-based start menu profiles.  
- Installing new apps on their workstation is as simple as dropping a
shortcut to the batch file in their start menu directory.
- I created an app shortcut called Launcher, that has the command line to
start the app.  It is located in the same server directory as the batch
file, and is executed at the end of the batch file processing.

Well, here it is!
----------
@echo off
rem ** Change this variable with each new version release
set verfile=123.ver

rem ** Create directory if necessary
if exist c:\myappdir\nul goto app
mkdir c:\myappdir

:app
rem ** Copy the newest application file from server if it is newer version
if exist c:\myappdir\%verfile% goto end
echo Updating application files.  Please Wait...
copy h:\myappdir\myfrontend.mdb c:\myappdir /y > nul

rem ** Delete the existing version file, and create a new one
if exist c:\myappdir\*.ver del c:\myappdir\*.ver
type nul > c:\myappdir\%verfile%

:end
rem ** Run the application using Access Runtime
start Launcher
----------

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com]
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 3:48 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Deployment Woes


I need the weekend to think this over, but I'm open for suggestions.  Our
department currently utilizes an existing database which is not split.
There are an estimated 100 shortcuts to this database littered throughout
the department.  Do to a rising concern in "concurrency issues", I need to
split this db.  With such an ingrained dependency on the existing shortcut,
it was suggested that I utilize the existing db as nothing more than a
glorified .bat file starter to distribute the new FE and subsequently check
revision status.  This seems like an awful lot of overhead in order to
placate the existing user base, and obviously would increase start-up times.
What do you think?



Mark
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Apr 30 19:30:57 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 10:30:57 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Quick view of ico files
In-Reply-To: <000c01c42e96$d41c19c0$0100a8c0@razvoj>
Message-ID: <40937C61.12204.1B0E35@localhost>

On 30 Apr 2004 at 11:36, Ervin Brindza wrote:

> I just downloaded from http://www.mvp-access.com/rubenvigon/recursos.htm over 11Mb of .ico and .avi files. Are there any way to browse them quickly?
> TIA,
>     Ervin

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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Thu Apr  1 00:38:38 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:38:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Form_KeyPress doesn't fire?
Message-ID: <20040401063838.56096.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi group,
 
i've got some code in the form_keypress event. When does this fire? It doesn't fire while in a control, focus on the form ?!?! What am I missing.
 
Private Sub Form_KeyPress(KeyAscii As Integer)
   MsgBox "hello world"
   frmKAM_ProcesKey (KeyAscii)
End Sub
 
When a user presses the keys [pagedown] or [pageup] while he is editing a record, the record is automaticly saved. I don't want this to happen. That's the KeyPress is for, isn't it?
 
TIA
 
Sander
 
PS: I also tried putting it in KeyDown.
PS2: Guess who added Hello world :-)


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From kathryn at bassett.net  Thu Apr  1 00:39:37 2004
From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:39:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] "See ya" in a few days
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr  1 02:51:31 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 18:51:31 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Form_KeyPress doesn't fire?
In-Reply-To: <20040401063838.56096.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <406C64B3.27644.97AB35@localhost>

On 31 Mar 2004 at 22:38, S D wrote:

> Hi group, i've got some code in the form_keypress event. When does this
> fire? It doesn't fire while in a control, focus on the form ?!?! What
> am I missing. 

Have you set KeyPreview true?


 
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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Thu Apr  1 03:09:26 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 01:09:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Form_KeyPress doesn't fire? SOLVED
In-Reply-To: <406C64B3.27644.97AB35@localhost>
Message-ID: <20040401090926.55775.qmail@web61103.mail.yahoo.com>

Stuart,
 
thnx for the reply. However the problem is solved via a procedure....
I was working on a change and noticed the mentioned problem. However the original programmer instructed the users NOT to use that key. Furthermore I'm not allowed to put any effort in (on/up/at?) it.
 
Thnx again.
 
Regards
 
Sander


Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:
On 31 Mar 2004 at 22:38, S D wrote:

> Hi group, i've got some code in the form_keypress event. When does this
> fire? It doesn't fire while in a control, focus on the form ?!?! What
> am I missing. 

Have you set KeyPreview true?



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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Thu Apr  1 03:23:13 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 01:23:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?
Message-ID: <20040401092313.14263.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi group,
 
when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data of the current record to be displayed in the new record.
So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA and then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear with the field username filled with AAA.
 
I know that this can be done using Bookmark or something but I cannot find it anymore. Tips/hints anyone?
 
TIA
 
Sander


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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Thu Apr  1 03:34:08 2004
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Thu,  1 Apr 2004 11:34:08 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?
Message-ID: <1032098.1080812048448.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>

Sander, 
An easy way to do this would be to create a public variable(s) to store the data of the current record then when they click the New Record populate the fields with the data from the public variable(s)
Paul





Message date : Apr 01 2004, 10:25 AM
>From : "S D" 
To : "accessd" 
Copy to : 
Subject : [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?
Hi group,

when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data of the current record to be displayed in the new record.
So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA and then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear with the field username filled with AAA.

I know that this can be done using Bookmark or something but I cannot find it anymore. Tips/hints anyone?

TIA

Sander


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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr  1 03:37:44 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 11:37:44 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?
In-Reply-To: <20040401092313.14263.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20040401092313.14263.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2310242047.20040401113744@cactus.dk>

Hi Sander

Tough day? No coffee?

Set the DefaultValue at OnCurrent.

As for Stuart's note on the KeyPreview, it's not a user feature, but a
property of the form.

/gustav

> when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data of the current record to be displayed in the new record.
> So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA and then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear with the field username filled with AAA.



From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Thu Apr  1 04:23:45 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 02:23:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?
	SOLVED
In-Reply-To: <2310242047.20040401113744@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20040401102345.83772.qmail@web61110.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Gustav,
Coffee? Plenty!
Tough day...oi!
 
MS-Development team of 5, 4 people are ill....guess who's not.... ;-)
 
Sander

Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
Hi Sander

Tough day? No coffee?

Set the DefaultValue at OnCurrent.

As for Stuart's note on the KeyPreview, it's not a user feature, but a
property of the form.

/gustav

> when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data of the current record to be displayed in the new record.
> So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA and then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear with the field username filled with AAA.

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From rsmethurst at UK.EY.COM  Thu Apr  1 04:32:07 2004
From: rsmethurst at UK.EY.COM (rsmethurst at UK.EY.COM)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 11:32:07 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Copy Chart
Message-ID: <OF6EA7C9D6.0C3E4CB7-ON80256E69.0039C145-80256E69.0039ED5D@ey.net>

HI All,

I have a Chart object on a Form.  I would like to allow users to copy the 
object, but not be able to cut it?

At the moment I have completely disabled the shortcut menu, but this is 
flexible.

Does anyone have any ideas how to do this?

TIS
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Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 12:04:00 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Copy Chart
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Managed to get it sorted..thanks anyway.

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From chris at thecube.net  Thu Apr  1 05:26:02 2004
From: chris at thecube.net (chris at thecube.net)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 06:26:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access to SQL Server
Message-ID: <7C4579FC1624452FBF36DAF8E7684B70.MAI@freeparking.com>

Martin,

I have recently tried to convert a stressed (concurrency wise) access97 back end to SQL server,
data conversion went smoothly, apart from rectifying memo field corruption in one table.

The forms worked fine and ignored the fact that i had swapped the access linked tables for ODBC
links to the SQL server. The problem came when i was opening recordsets and it was asking for
bizarre parameters, (dbSeeChanges)

For purity i love SQL server database power and stored procedures and the extras like getting the
database to back itself up nightly, and would not hesitate to convert access databases to SQL or
MSDE (is it still called MSDE?)

It's just convincing the client that a 1 gig access backend is 'pushing it' <g>

Regards

Chris

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Sent: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 21:49:03 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Access to SQL Server

If your employer/customer asked you to move all your Access databases onto a
central SQL Server what problems other than code rewrite would you bring up?

What would stop you doing this or maybe think twice before starting?

I am working on a project which looks at moving all of an organisations
databases to SQL Server over a period of time. This is not a real project
but we are trying to see how developers would react to the possibility. I am
really interested in the view point of the actual people who may have to do
this.

One of the areas I am looking at is performance and issues surrounding
redesign. for example at the university we have many small Access dbs which
duplicate student data. It would be fairly easy to remove this duplication
by moving them to SQL Server and linking to a core set of data making it
very easy for us to mange this type of installation.

Comments.opinions etc appreciated


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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr  1 05:30:57 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 21:30:57 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
	data?	SOLVED
In-Reply-To: <20040401102345.83772.qmail@web61110.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <2310242047.20040401113744@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <406C8A11.27876.129A13C@localhost>

On 1 Apr 2004 at 2:23, S D wrote:

> Hi Gustav,
> Coffee? Plenty!
> Tough day...oi!
>  
> MS-Development team of 5, 4 people are ill....guess who's not.... ;-)
>  

You're lucky. MS Development team of one.

Coughing, sneezing, aching muscles, high temperature and deadlines looming on a 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr  1 05:35:13 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 21:35:13 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?
In-Reply-To: <20040401092313.14263.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <406C8B11.7322.12D87B6@localhost>

On 1 Apr 2004 at 1:23, S D wrote:

> Hi group,
>  
> when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data of the current record to be displayed in the new record.
> So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA and then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear with the field username filled with AAA.
>  
> I know that this can be done using Bookmark or something but I cannot find it anymore. Tips/hints anyone?
>  

One of several ways:
Create a system variable Username() (which you can populate on startup or when the 
first record is saved) and set the default of the field to "=Username()"

In fact if I want to record usernames on data entry,  I generally use this technique and 
hide the username field so that they can't alter it.





 
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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Thu Apr  1 05:58:49 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 03:58:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?
	SOLVED
In-Reply-To: <406C8A11.27876.129A13C@localhost>
Message-ID: <20040401115849.7339.qmail@web61101.mail.yahoo.com>

We're doing mostly 'maintenace' (don't know the English word for this) for over 100 apps...not counting Excel -'tjoep' :-)

Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:On 1 Apr 2004 at 2:23, S D wrote:

> Hi Gustav,
> Coffee? Plenty!
> Tough day...oi!
> 
> MS-Development team of 5, 4 people are ill....guess who's not.... ;-)
> 

You're lucky. MS Development team of one.

Coughing, sneezing, aching muscles, high temperature and deadlines looming on a 
couple of projects :-(

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From jarus at amerinet-gpo.com  Thu Apr  1 06:24:53 2004
From: jarus at amerinet-gpo.com (Terri Jarus)
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 06:24:53 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports
Message-ID: <s06bb5ba.026@an-mail.amerinet-gpo.com>

There's some good code for doing this at the following website:
 
http://www.lebans.com/PrintLines.htm
 
Hope this helps.
 
 
 
Terri Jarus
Director, Contract Support Services
jarus at amerinet-gpo.com
314-542-1902

>>> deanellis at iprimus.com.au 03/31/04 03:42PM >>>
Hi All,

I have an interesting dilema with regards to my reports. I want to place a
verticl line down each side of my report to simulate the data in some large
frames. I can set the line height to match the distance between two
horizontal lines. But here's the catch. Between the two horizonatl lines are
a number of feilds that are set to "Can Grow". When the text is placed in
here, and the feild grows too much, there is a gap between the bottom
horizontal line and the vertical lines.

Any suggestions?

Cheers

Dean


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From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Thu Apr  1 06:53:00 2004
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 07:53:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?
References: <20040401092313.14263.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>
	<2310242047.20040401113744@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <406C10AC.7000509@torchlake.com>

Gustav,
How does one set the DefautlValue at OnCurrent?  I don't know how to do 
that.
Thanks,
Tina

Gustav Brock wrote:

>Hi Sander
>
>Tough day? No coffee?
>
>Set the DefaultValue at OnCurrent.
>
>As for Stuart's note on the KeyPreview, it's not a user feature, but a
>property of the form.
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data of the current record to be displayed in the new record.
>>So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA and then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear with the field username filled with AAA.
>>    
>>
>
>  
>




From thevigil at kabelfoon.nl  Thu Apr  1 07:16:23 2004
From: thevigil at kabelfoon.nl (Bert-Jan Brinkhuis)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 15:16:23 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports
References: <s06bb5ba.026@an-mail.amerinet-gpo.com>
Message-ID: <005401c417eb$8e429c60$3f412d3e@jester>

in the detail_format event you can use me.line to draw a line.
For the specific format see help (i do not have access installed on the PC i
email on)

HTH

Bert-Jan

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To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports


There's some good code for doing this at the following website:

http://www.lebans.com/PrintLines.htm

Hope this helps.



Terri Jarus
Director, Contract Support Services
jarus at amerinet-gpo.com
314-542-1902

>>> deanellis at iprimus.com.au 03/31/04 03:42PM >>>
Hi All,

I have an interesting dilema with regards to my reports. I want to place a
verticl line down each side of my report to simulate the data in some large
frames. I can set the line height to match the distance between two
horizontal lines. But here's the catch. Between the two horizonatl lines are
a number of feilds that are set to "Can Grow". When the text is placed in
here, and the feild grows too much, there is a gap between the bottom
horizontal line and the vertical lines.

Any suggestions?

Cheers

Dean


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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr  1 07:29:57 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 15:29:57 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?
In-Reply-To: <406C10AC.7000509@torchlake.com>
References: <20040401092313.14263.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>
	<2310242047.20040401113744@cactus.dk> <406C10AC.7000509@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <15824175682.20040401152957@cactus.dk>

Hi Tina

> How does one set the DefautlValue at OnCurrent?  I don't know how to do
> that.

That's not difficult - something like this:

  Dim txt As TextBox
  Set txt = Me!txtYourTextBox

  txt.DefaultValue = txt.Value

  Set txt = Nothing

However, DefaultValue should be a string which means that if your
textbox contains decimals or a date/time value you must be careful and
convert to a string in US format:

  txt.DefaultValue = LTrim(Str(txt.Value))

or

  txt.DefaultValue = _
    Format(txt.Value, "\#mm\/dd\/yyyy hh\:nn\:ss AM/PM\#")

/gustav


>>Tough day? No coffee?
>>
>>Set the DefaultValue at OnCurrent.
>>
>>As for Stuart's note on the KeyPreview, it's not a user feature, but a
>>property of the form.
>>
>>/gustav

>>>when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data of the current record to be displayed in the new record.
>>>So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA and then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear with the field username filled with AAA.



From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Thu Apr  1 07:53:57 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 05:53:57 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Create table script...so close...
Message-ID: <20040401135357.58096.qmail@web61103.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi group,
 
I need to create tables using the layout specified in a certain table. I found the SUB below on msdn.microsoft.com. Changed it a bit and voila the tables are created! HOWEVER, when i specify TEXT the darn thing creates MEMO fields?!? Qua Pasa?
 
Does anybody know how to change this so that I get proper text fields?
BTW: arrFileLayout(y, 6) contains the field type (=TEXT)
BTW2: I also used the actual word TEXT.
 
TIA,
 
Sander
 
Sub CreateTableX1(ByRef arrFileLayout())
   Dim dbs As ADODB.Connection   ' Database
   Dim y As Integer
   Dim strCreateTable As String
   Dim strCreate As String
   Dim strFields As String
   
   Set dbs = CurrentProject.Connection()
   ' Create a table with two text fields.
   strCreate = "CREATE TABLE ThisTable "
   For y = 0 To UBound(arrFileLayout, 1)
      'Debug.Print (arrFileLayout(y, 0))
      strFields = strFields & arrFileLayout(y, 0) & arrFileLayout(y, 6) & ","
   Next y
   
   'remove last ,
   strFields = Mid(strFields, 1, Len(strFields) - 1)
   Debug.Print strFields

   'Build sql
   strCreateTable = strCreate & "(" & strFields & ")"
   Debug.Print strCreateTable

   'execute the blody thing
   dbs.Execute strCreateTable
 
   dbs.Close
End Sub






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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Thu Apr  1 08:14:51 2004
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Thu,  1 Apr 2004 16:14:51 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] Create table script...so close...
Message-ID: <4435274.1080828891183.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>

Just a thought have you tried dbText instead:
arrFileLayout(y, 6) contains the field type (=dbText)
Paul






Message date : Apr 01 2004, 02:57 PM
>From : "S D" 
To : "accessd" 
Copy to : 
Subject : [AccessD] Create table script...so close...
Hi group,

I need to create tables using the layout specified in a certain table. I found the SUB below on msdn.microsoft.com. Changed it a bit and voila the tables are created! HOWEVER, when i specify TEXT the darn thing creates MEMO fields?!? Qua Pasa?

Does anybody know how to change this so that I get proper text fields?
BTW: arrFileLayout(y, 6) contains the field type (=TEXT)
BTW2: I also used the actual word TEXT.

TIA,

Sander

Sub CreateTableX1(ByRef arrFileLayout())
Dim dbs As ADODB.Connection ' Database
Dim y As Integer
Dim strCreateTable As String
Dim strCreate As String
Dim strFields As String

Set dbs = CurrentProject.Connection()
' Create a table with two text fields.
strCreate = "CREATE TABLE ThisTable "
For y = 0 To UBound(arrFileLayout, 1)
'Debug.Print (arrFileLayout(y, 0))
strFields = strFields & arrFileLayout(y, 0) & arrFileLayout(y, 6) & ","
Next y

'remove last ,
strFields = Mid(strFields, 1, Len(strFields) - 1)
Debug.Print strFields

'Build sql
strCreateTable = strCreate & "(" & strFields & ")"
Debug.Print strCreateTable

'execute the blody thing
dbs.Execute strCreateTable

dbs.Close
End Sub






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From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Thu Apr  1 08:21:24 2004
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 09:21:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?
References: <20040401092313.14263.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>	<2310242047.20040401113744@cactus.dk>
	<406C10AC.7000509@torchlake.com>
	<15824175682.20040401152957@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <406C2564.1000708@torchlake.com>

Hi Gustav,

I begin to understand.  At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event 
Procedure will set the DefaultValue of each TextBox to the values 
determined to already be stored in the record just saved.  Is that 
correct?  Does this require explicitly listing each TextBox of the form?   

Thanks,
Tinz

Gustav Brock wrote:

>Hi Tina
>
>  
>
>>How does one set the DefautlValue at OnCurrent?  I don't know how to do
>>that.
>>    
>>
>
>That's not difficult - something like this:
>
>  Dim txt As TextBox
>  Set txt = Me!txtYourTextBox
>
>  txt.DefaultValue = txt.Value
>
>  Set txt = Nothing
>
>However, DefaultValue should be a string which means that if your
>textbox contains decimals or a date/time value you must be careful and
>convert to a string in US format:
>
>  txt.DefaultValue = LTrim(Str(txt.Value))
>
>or
>
>  txt.DefaultValue = _
>    Format(txt.Value, "\#mm\/dd\/yyyy hh\:nn\:ss AM/PM\#")
>
>/gustav
>
>
>  
>
>>>Tough day? No coffee?
>>>
>>>Set the DefaultValue at OnCurrent.
>>>
>>>As for Stuart's note on the KeyPreview, it's not a user feature, but a
>>>property of the form.
>>>
>>>/gustav
>>>      
>>>
>
>  
>
>>>>when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data of the current record to be displayed in the new record.
>>>>So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA and then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear with the field username filled with AAA.
>>>>        
>>>>
>
>  
>




From sgeller at cce.umn.edu  Thu Apr  1 08:30:45 2004
From: sgeller at cce.umn.edu (Susan Geller)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 08:30:45 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Default Printer for Access Report
Message-ID: <CD6E25A7E2F6734FA126AED83B9D54FB01C759A5@is~ccemail2.cce.local>

Thanks, Doris, that was the problem.  I'm wondering if, as a fail safe
measure, can I write code that would make sure that when that Printer
Dialogue box opens it is always set to go to the default printer?  I'd
want users to be able to pick a different option if they desired, but
just as the default, that the print box would be set to go to the
default printer.  Where would I put the code?

--Susan


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 12:03 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Default Printer for Access Report

Open that report in design view and then click on "File" and choose
"Page
Setup".  It is possible it get set accidentally when the report was
designed.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Geller
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 12:28 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Default Printer for Access Report


I have a reporting tool built in Access (2002) that is essentially a
wizard
where users pick a report, set criteria and then see their output.
There
are nearly 100 reports in the app.  When a user choses to print a
report,
the default printer that comes up in the print dialog box is the default
printer set on their machine, EXCEPT for one of the reports.  On that
one
report only, the default printer that comes up in the dialogue box is a
different printer.  All users get this different printer.  I did not
write
any code or make any settings to indicate printer choice.  What could be
happening?  How can I get this one report to print to the user's default
printer?

Note:  The only way that users can print a report is with a toolbar
PRINT
button that I brings up the dialogue box.  There is no file menu from
the
reports and there is no button with a printer icon that sends reports
straight to the printer.

--Susan



Susan B. Geller
Office of Information Systems
College of Continuing Education
University of Minnesota
306 Wesbrook Hall
77 Pleasant Street SE
Minneapolis, MN 55455
Phone:  612-626-4785
Fax:  612-625-2568


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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr  1 08:36:29 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 16:36:29 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?
In-Reply-To: <406C2564.1000708@torchlake.com>
References: <20040401092313.14263.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>
	<2310242047.20040401113744@cactus.dk> <406C10AC.7000509@torchlake.com>
	<15824175682.20040401152957@cactus.dk> <406C2564.1000708@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <18028167422.20040401163629@cactus.dk>

Hi Tina

> I begin to understand.  At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event
> Procedure will set the DefaultValue of each TextBox to the values 
> determined to already be stored in the record just saved.  Is that 
> correct?

Yes and no. No saving needs to take place:

At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event Procedure will set the
DefaultValue of each TextBox (or ComboBox etc.) to the values for the
current record of those controls.

> Does this require explicitly listing each TextBox of the form?

Yes.

/gustav


>>>How does one set the DefautlValue at OnCurrent?  I don't know how to do
>>>that.
>>
>>That's not difficult - something like this:
>>
>>  Dim txt As TextBox
>>  Set txt = Me!txtYourTextBox
>>
>>  txt.DefaultValue = txt.Value
>>
>>  Set txt = Nothing
>>
>>However, DefaultValue should be a string which means that if your
>>textbox contains decimals or a date/time value you must be careful and
>>convert to a string in US format:
>>
>>  txt.DefaultValue = LTrim(Str(txt.Value))
>>
>>or
>>
>>  txt.DefaultValue = _
>>    Format(txt.Value, "\#mm\/dd\/yyyy hh\:nn\:ss AM/PM\#")
>>
>>/gustav
>>
>>>>Tough day? No coffee?
>>>>
>>>>Set the DefaultValue at OnCurrent.
>>>>
>>>>As for Stuart's note on the KeyPreview, it's not a user feature, but a
>>>>property of the form.
>>>>
>>>>/gustav
>>>>      
>>>>>when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data of the current record to be displayed in the new record.
>>>>>So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA and then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear with the field username filled with AAA.



From mikedorism at adelphia.net  Thu Apr  1 08:56:32 2004
From: mikedorism at adelphia.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 09:56:32 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Default Printer for Access Report
In-Reply-To: <CD6E25A7E2F6734FA126AED83B9D54FB01C759A5@is~ccemail2.cce.local>
Message-ID: <000001c417f9$85866710$a1194244@hargrove.internal>

By default, the Printer Dialogue box does go to the default printer unless
the report has one specifically specified.  As far as I know, you have no
control over the Printer Dialogue box from within Access.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Geller
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 9:31 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Default Printer for Access Report


Thanks, Doris, that was the problem.  I'm wondering if, as a fail safe
measure, can I write code that would make sure that when that Printer
Dialogue box opens it is always set to go to the default printer?  I'd want
users to be able to pick a different option if they desired, but just as the
default, that the print box would be set to go to the default printer.
Where would I put the code?

--Susan


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 12:03 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Default Printer for Access Report

Open that report in design view and then click on "File" and choose "Page
Setup".  It is possible it get set accidentally when the report was
designed.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Geller
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 12:28 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Default Printer for Access Report


I have a reporting tool built in Access (2002) that is essentially a wizard
where users pick a report, set criteria and then see their output. There are
nearly 100 reports in the app.  When a user choses to print a report, the
default printer that comes up in the print dialog box is the default printer
set on their machine, EXCEPT for one of the reports.  On that one report
only, the default printer that comes up in the dialogue box is a different
printer.  All users get this different printer.  I did not write any code or
make any settings to indicate printer choice.  What could be happening?  How
can I get this one report to print to the user's default printer?

Note:  The only way that users can print a report is with a toolbar PRINT
button that I brings up the dialogue box.  There is no file menu from the
reports and there is no button with a printer icon that sends reports
straight to the printer.

--Susan



Susan B. Geller
Office of Information Systems
College of Continuing Education
University of Minnesota
306 Wesbrook Hall
77 Pleasant Street SE
Minneapolis, MN 55455
Phone:  612-626-4785
Fax:  612-625-2568


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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr  1 09:06:22 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 17:06:22 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?
In-Reply-To: <18028167422.20040401163629@cactus.dk>
References: <20040401092313.14263.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>
	<2310242047.20040401113744@cactus.dk> <406C10AC.7000509@torchlake.com>
	<15824175682.20040401152957@cactus.dk> <406C2564.1000708@torchlake.com>
	<18028167422.20040401163629@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <3229960731.20040401170622@cactus.dk>

Hi Tina

>> I begin to understand.  At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event
>> Procedure will set the DefaultValue of each TextBox to the values 
>> determined to already be stored in the record just saved.  Is that 
>> correct?

> Yes and no. No saving needs to take place:

> At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event Procedure will set the
> DefaultValue of each TextBox (or ComboBox etc.) to the values for the
> current record of those controls.

Well, of course, if you wish to use the recently saved values as
default values (a very common situation) every time a new record has
been added; then you would use the AfterUpdate event of the form.

/gustav


>>>>How does one set the DefautlValue at OnCurrent?  I don't know how to do
>>>>that.
>>>
>>>That's not difficult - something like this:
>>>
>>>  Dim txt As TextBox
>>>  Set txt = Me!txtYourTextBox
>>>
>>>  txt.DefaultValue = txt.Value
>>>
>>>  Set txt = Nothing
>>>
>>>However, DefaultValue should be a string which means that if your
>>>textbox contains decimals or a date/time value you must be careful and
>>>convert to a string in US format:
>>>
>>>  txt.DefaultValue = LTrim(Str(txt.Value))
>>>
>>>or
>>>
>>>  txt.DefaultValue = _
>>>    Format(txt.Value, "\#mm\/dd\/yyyy hh\:nn\:ss AM/PM\#")
>>>
>>>/gustav
>>>
>>>>>Tough day? No coffee?
>>>>>
>>>>>Set the DefaultValue at OnCurrent.
>>>>>
>>>>>As for Stuart's note on the KeyPreview, it's not a user feature, but a
>>>>>property of the form.
>>>>>
>>>>>/gustav
>>>>>      
>>>>>>when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data of the current record to be displayed in the new record.
>>>>>>So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA and then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear with the field username filled with AAA.



From artful at rogers.com  Thu Apr  1 12:17:57 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 10:17:57 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Amazing Stories
In-Reply-To: <20040401135357.58096.qmail@web61103.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <03f501c41815$a8b28c70$6501a8c0@rock>

Check out http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/aprilfool2.html for the 100
greatest April Fool hoaxes of all time. The BBC one about Swiss
spaghetti farmers is priceless, and you can even watch the
black-and-white mockumentary the beeb created. Shades of Monty Python.
Also check out #33, CBC's Michael Enright's alleged interview with Jimmy
Carter in which Enright calls him a washed up peanut farmer.

Arthur



From Christian.Brock at hoffman.army.mil  Thu Apr  1 09:22:22 2004
From: Christian.Brock at hoffman.army.mil (Brock, Christian T, HRC-Alexandria)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 10:22:22 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data
	?
Message-ID: <65EB528406CCD211BE8F00902717D23D0795CA41@perscomex31.hoffman.army.mil>

Why go to the trouble?  From the statement of intent, What the user really
wants is a duplicate current record button, instead of a new record button.
The Access XP command button wizard will allow you to create a button that
will duplicate the current record.

It creates the following lines of code
    DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 8, , acMenuVer70
    DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 2, , acMenuVer70
    DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 5, , acMenuVer70 'Paste Append

Obviously MS did not update the wizard to use readable code.  The following
will work as well.
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSelectRecord
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCopy
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdPasteAppend


Christian Brock




-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Thursday, 01 April 2004 09:36
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?


Hi Tina

> I begin to understand.  At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event
> Procedure will set the DefaultValue of each TextBox to the values 
> determined to already be stored in the record just saved.  Is that 
> correct?

Yes and no. No saving needs to take place:

At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event Procedure will set the
DefaultValue of each TextBox (or ComboBox etc.) to the values for the
current record of those controls.

> Does this require explicitly listing each TextBox of the form?

Yes.

/gustav


>>>How does one set the DefautlValue at OnCurrent?  I don't know how to do
>>>that.
>>
>>That's not difficult - something like this:
>>
>>  Dim txt As TextBox
>>  Set txt = Me!txtYourTextBox
>>
>>  txt.DefaultValue = txt.Value
>>
>>  Set txt = Nothing
>>
>>However, DefaultValue should be a string which means that if your
>>textbox contains decimals or a date/time value you must be careful and
>>convert to a string in US format:
>>
>>  txt.DefaultValue = LTrim(Str(txt.Value))
>>
>>or
>>
>>  txt.DefaultValue = _
>>    Format(txt.Value, "\#mm\/dd\/yyyy hh\:nn\:ss AM/PM\#")
>>
>>/gustav
>>
>>>>Tough day? No coffee?
>>>>
>>>>Set the DefaultValue at OnCurrent.
>>>>
>>>>As for Stuart's note on the KeyPreview, it's not a user feature, but a
>>>>property of the form.
>>>>
>>>>/gustav
>>>>      
>>>>>when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data of
the current record to be displayed in the new record.
>>>>>So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA and
then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear with
the field username filled with AAA.

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From pjones at btl.net  Thu Apr  1 09:38:43 2004
From: pjones at btl.net (Paul M. Jones)
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 09:38:43 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Compacting A2K
In-Reply-To: <MOELIKDOANGCHBBIGOLIAEICEAAA.greggs@msn.com>
References: <BAY2-F100ZvLohpyX7M0002c879@hotmail.com>
	<MOELIKDOANGCHBBIGOLIAEICEAAA.greggs@msn.com>
Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20040401093356.02ead9e8@btlmail.btl.net>

I've seen this problem on Windows Terminal server systems when the option 
to 'compact on exit' is set on the MS Access database.  The compact works 
fine on stand alone systems but fails on the  Terminal Server 
machine.  This is particularly the case when other users are accessing the 
MS Access file during that time. as well.  I have also found that even if 
the compact works, the permissions on the file is changed so that other 
users cannot access it.  I suspect that Citrix has similar issues since 
Windows TS is supposed to be a subset of Citrix.



Paul M. Jones
Spire Services Ltd.

> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
> >Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 9:15 PM
> >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Compacting A2K
> >
> >
> >Office Service packs applied?  Jet SPs applied?  Windows SPs applied?
> >
> >John W. Colby
> >www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gregg
> >Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:16 PM
> >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> >Subject: [AccessD] Compacting A2K
> >
> >
> >I'm really stumped on this one.
> >
> >I have a 2K database that won't compact.  It says the temporary database is
> >in use.  Every once in while it will work... maybe 1 out of 20 tries.  This
> >app is running under NT4 and Citrix.
> >
> >I opened a new database and imported just the tables and got the same
> >error.
> >I have a mixture of SQL and Access linked tables as well as FE tables.  I
> >start removing tables until it begins working but when I add the last
> >tables
> >I deleted back in, it still works.  It's not consistent.
> >
> >When it begins to work I start getting another occasional error. At the end
> >of the compact process I get an error that says "Cannot find field
> >'Description'".  I do have tables with a field name of description but when
> >I remove them I still get the error.  The Help says it is error 3799.  I
> >can't find anything on it anywhere.
> >
> >Also, I can move the app to another machine and it will compact fine at
> >least until it looks for the SQL links.  We rebuilt Citrix and NT OS which
> >did not help.
> >
> >Gregg Steinbrenner
> >
> >
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From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr  1 09:48:34 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 10:48:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?
References: <65EB528406CCD211BE8F00902717D23D0795CA41@perscomex31.hoffman.army.mil>
Message-ID: <001501c41800$caaf4fd0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...that "wizard" simply bites ...I'd create a "duplicate" button that saves
the pk of the current record to a variable or tag and then a query using the
saved pk to append a "new" record that is a duplicate of the saved one
except for the pk ...that would get you a dupe of every form field including
any subform.

William Hindman
ipsedixitism: something is true because I myself have said it is true ...the
philosophy of Noam Chomsky :)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brock, Christian T, HRC-Alexandria"
<Christian.Brock at hoffman.army.mil>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:22 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?


> Why go to the trouble?  From the statement of intent, What the user really
> wants is a duplicate current record button, instead of a new record
button.
> The Access XP command button wizard will allow you to create a button that
> will duplicate the current record.
>
> It creates the following lines of code
>     DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 8, , acMenuVer70
>     DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 2, , acMenuVer70
>     DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 5, , acMenuVer70 'Paste Append
>
> Obviously MS did not update the wizard to use readable code.  The
following
> will work as well.
>     DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSelectRecord
>     DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCopy
>     DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdPasteAppend
>
>
> Christian Brock
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
> Sent: Thursday, 01 April 2004 09:36
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data?
>
>
> Hi Tina
>
> > I begin to understand.  At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event
> > Procedure will set the DefaultValue of each TextBox to the values
> > determined to already be stored in the record just saved.  Is that
> > correct?
>
> Yes and no. No saving needs to take place:
>
> At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event Procedure will set the
> DefaultValue of each TextBox (or ComboBox etc.) to the values for the
> current record of those controls.
>
> > Does this require explicitly listing each TextBox of the form?
>
> Yes.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> >>>How does one set the DefautlValue at OnCurrent?  I don't know how to do
> >>>that.
> >>
> >>That's not difficult - something like this:
> >>
> >>  Dim txt As TextBox
> >>  Set txt = Me!txtYourTextBox
> >>
> >>  txt.DefaultValue = txt.Value
> >>
> >>  Set txt = Nothing
> >>
> >>However, DefaultValue should be a string which means that if your
> >>textbox contains decimals or a date/time value you must be careful and
> >>convert to a string in US format:
> >>
> >>  txt.DefaultValue = LTrim(Str(txt.Value))
> >>
> >>or
> >>
> >>  txt.DefaultValue = _
> >>    Format(txt.Value, "\#mm\/dd\/yyyy hh\:nn\:ss AM/PM\#")
> >>
> >>/gustav
> >>
> >>>>Tough day? No coffee?
> >>>>
> >>>>Set the DefaultValue at OnCurrent.
> >>>>
> >>>>As for Stuart's note on the KeyPreview, it's not a user feature, but a
> >>>>property of the form.
> >>>>
> >>>>/gustav
> >>>>
> >>>>>when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data
of
> the current record to be displayed in the new record.
> >>>>>So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA and
> then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear with
> the field username filled with AAA.
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Apr  1 09:48:39 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 07:48:39 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] "See ya" in a few days
In-Reply-To: <20040401063938.D6CC7725F@sitemail.everyone.net>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIAEFLCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Kathryn:

Hope you have not lost anything important, that you can not recover from
somewhere.

Good luck
Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Kathryn
Bassett
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:40 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] "See ya" in a few days


I'm doing my mail via web today (using husband's computer) and probably most
of tomorrow. My hard drive crashed as I was booting up this morning. Not
recoverable. I have been looking at new computers but wasn't planning to buy
it til tax refund got here in another couple weeks. But.... Got new one
tonight, but it will take a day or two to get everything loaded.

Kathryn Bassett
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From artful at rogers.com  Thu Apr  1 12:54:29 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 10:54:29 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
	data?SOLVED
In-Reply-To: <20040401115849.7339.qmail@web61101.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <03f701c4181a$c430b800$6501a8c0@rock>

Here is a function that I use for this purpose. It's specific to each
particular field on a form, because in my experience I seldom wanted ALL
the fields to be duplicated; but rather just many of them. Note that I
typically define a compiler directive called TALKON.

Public Function CarryForward()

    Const cQuote = """"  'Thats two quotes
    Dim ctlCurrent As Control
    Set ctlCurrent = Screen.ActiveControl
    ctlCurrent.DefaultValue = cQuote & ctlCurrent.Value & cQuote

#If TALKON = True Then
    Debug.Print "Current default value: " & ctlCurrent.DefaultValue
    Debug.Print "New default value: " & ctlCurrent.DefaultValue
#End If

    Set ctlCurrent = Nothing
    
End Function

Arthur


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 3:59 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data?SOLVED


We're doing mostly 'maintenace' (don't know the English word for this)
for over 100 apps...not counting Excel -'tjoep' :-)

Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:On 1 Apr 2004 at 2:23, S
D wrote:

> Hi Gustav,
> Coffee? Plenty!
> Tough day...oi!
> 
> MS-Development team of 5, 4 people are ill....guess who's not.... ;-)
> 

You're lucky. MS Development team of one.

Coughing, sneezing, aching muscles, high temperature and deadlines
looming on a 
couple of projects :-(




From Christian.Brock at hoffman.army.mil  Thu Apr  1 10:24:31 2004
From: Christian.Brock at hoffman.army.mil (Brock, Christian T, HRC-Alexandria)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 11:24:31 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data
	?
Message-ID: <65EB528406CCD211BE8F00902717D23D0795CA9D@perscomex31.hoffman.army.mil>

The copy record and paste append commands will get every form field and
subform.  Do not see how what you say to do provides any benefit over using
the three DoCmd.RunCommand statements.

Christian Brock



-----Original Message-----
From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Thursday, 01 April 2004 10:49
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?


...that "wizard" simply bites ...I'd create a "duplicate" button that saves
the pk of the current record to a variable or tag and then a query using the
saved pk to append a "new" record that is a duplicate of the saved one
except for the pk ...that would get you a dupe of every form field including
any subform.

William Hindman
ipsedixitism: something is true because I myself have said it is true ...the
philosophy of Noam Chomsky :)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brock, Christian T, HRC-Alexandria"
<Christian.Brock at hoffman.army.mil>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:22 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?


> Why go to the trouble?  From the statement of intent, What the user really
> wants is a duplicate current record button, instead of a new record
button.
> The Access XP command button wizard will allow you to create a button that
> will duplicate the current record.
>
> It creates the following lines of code
>     DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 8, , acMenuVer70
>     DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 2, , acMenuVer70
>     DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 5, , acMenuVer70 'Paste Append
>
> Obviously MS did not update the wizard to use readable code.  The
following
> will work as well.
>     DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSelectRecord
>     DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCopy
>     DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdPasteAppend
>
>
> Christian Brock
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
> Sent: Thursday, 01 April 2004 09:36
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data?
>
>
> Hi Tina
>
> > I begin to understand.  At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event
> > Procedure will set the DefaultValue of each TextBox to the values
> > determined to already be stored in the record just saved.  Is that
> > correct?
>
> Yes and no. No saving needs to take place:
>
> At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event Procedure will set the
> DefaultValue of each TextBox (or ComboBox etc.) to the values for the
> current record of those controls.
>
> > Does this require explicitly listing each TextBox of the form?
>
> Yes.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> >>>How does one set the DefautlValue at OnCurrent?  I don't know how to do
> >>>that.
> >>
> >>That's not difficult - something like this:
> >>
> >>  Dim txt As TextBox
> >>  Set txt = Me!txtYourTextBox
> >>
> >>  txt.DefaultValue = txt.Value
> >>
> >>  Set txt = Nothing
> >>
> >>However, DefaultValue should be a string which means that if your
> >>textbox contains decimals or a date/time value you must be careful and
> >>convert to a string in US format:
> >>
> >>  txt.DefaultValue = LTrim(Str(txt.Value))
> >>
> >>or
> >>
> >>  txt.DefaultValue = _
> >>    Format(txt.Value, "\#mm\/dd\/yyyy hh\:nn\:ss AM/PM\#")
> >>
> >>/gustav
> >>
> >>>>Tough day? No coffee?
> >>>>
> >>>>Set the DefaultValue at OnCurrent.
> >>>>
> >>>>As for Stuart's note on the KeyPreview, it's not a user feature, but a
> >>>>property of the form.
> >>>>
> >>>>/gustav
> >>>>
> >>>>>when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data
of
> the current record to be displayed in the new record.
> >>>>>So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA and
> then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear with
> the field username filled with AAA.
>
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Apr  1 10:28:54 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 08:28:54 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Create table script...so close...
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8632C511@infoserver01.infostat.local>

When you're using ADO, you have to use ADO datatype enums.  Try
adVarChar.  TEXT is the data type for memo fields in SQL Server.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: S D [mailto:accessd667 at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 5:54 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] Create table script...so close...


Hi group,
 
I need to create tables using the layout specified in a certain table. I
found the SUB below on msdn.microsoft.com. Changed it a bit and voila
the tables are created! HOWEVER, when i specify TEXT the darn thing
creates MEMO fields?!? Qua Pasa?
 
Does anybody know how to change this so that I get proper text fields?
BTW: arrFileLayout(y, 6) contains the field type (=TEXT)
BTW2: I also used the actual word TEXT.
 
TIA,
 
Sander
 
Sub CreateTableX1(ByRef arrFileLayout())
   Dim dbs As ADODB.Connection   ' Database
   Dim y As Integer
   Dim strCreateTable As String
   Dim strCreate As String
   Dim strFields As String
   
   Set dbs = CurrentProject.Connection()
   ' Create a table with two text fields.
   strCreate = "CREATE TABLE ThisTable "
   For y = 0 To UBound(arrFileLayout, 1)
      'Debug.Print (arrFileLayout(y, 0))
      strFields = strFields & arrFileLayout(y, 0) & arrFileLayout(y, 6)
& ","
   Next y
   
   'remove last ,
   strFields = Mid(strFields, 1, Len(strFields) - 1)
   Debug.Print strFields

   'Build sql
   strCreateTable = strCreate & "(" & strFields & ")"
   Debug.Print strCreateTable

   'execute the blody thing
   dbs.Execute strCreateTable
 
   dbs.Close
End Sub






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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr  1 10:32:38 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 18:32:38 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
	data?SOLVED
In-Reply-To: <03f701c4181a$c430b800$6501a8c0@rock>
References: <03f701c4181a$c430b800$6501a8c0@rock>
Message-ID: <12435136453.20040401183238@cactus.dk>

Hi Arthur

> Here is a function that I use for this purpose. It's specific to each
> particular field on a form, because in my experience I seldom wanted ALL
> the fields to be duplicated; but rather just many of them. Note that I
> typically define a compiler directive called TALKON.

> Public Function CarryForward()

>     Const cQuote = """"  'Thats two quotes
>     Dim ctlCurrent As Control
>     Set ctlCurrent = Screen.ActiveControl
>     ctlCurrent.DefaultValue = cQuote & ctlCurrent.Value & cQuote

In my experience this may fail in a non-US localized environment for
decimals and date/time values as .Value will be converted to a
localized string.

A typo here?

> #If TALKON = True Then
>     Debug.Print "Current default value: " & ctlCurrent.DefaultValue
>     Debug.Print "New default value: " & ctlCurrent.DefaultValue
> #End If

You are retrieving the same value twice ...

>     Set ctlCurrent = Nothing
    
> End Function

/gustav



From serbach at new.rr.com  Thu Apr  1 10:46:44 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 10:46:44 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports
Message-ID: <20040401104644.1145960650.serbach@new.rr.com>

Dean,

I've struggled with this off and on over the past year. I finally just colored the background of the Detail section a light gray (230,230,230) and colored all the text boxes white. That gives the effect of a nice subtle grid.

Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504
 
"I think that the send button actually turns brains on." -- Bryan Carbonnell



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr  1 10:49:43 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 11:49:43 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last
	entereddata?SOLVED
In-Reply-To: <03f701c4181a$c430b800$6501a8c0@rock>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPCEDFHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

And of course, to a man with a hammer...

Add this CarryForward() (slightly modified) to the control classes for the
controls you want this functionality for, clsTxt if only the text control
etc.  Then in the dclsFrm form class create a colCarryForward collection to
hold pointers to the control classes you want to activate this functionality
for.  In dclsFrm build a SetCarryForward method with a ParamArray to pass in
the controls you want to set this up for.

In the form's Open event call dclsFrm.SetCarryForward ctl1, ctl2, ctl3.

In SetCarryForward iterate the ParamArray and grab a pointer to the class
for each control and place in the colCarryForward collection.

In mfrm_BeforeUpdate call a method DoCarryForward() that iterates the
colCarryForward collection and calls the control class' CarryForward method.

Having done this you now have CarryForward functionality for any form for
any project.  Just turn it on as you need it by calling the
dclsFrm.SetCarryForward method passing in controls to carry forward.

Of course you will need a hammer to do this.

;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 1:54 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last
entereddata?SOLVED


Here is a function that I use for this purpose. It's specific to each
particular field on a form, because in my experience I seldom wanted ALL
the fields to be duplicated; but rather just many of them. Note that I
typically define a compiler directive called TALKON.

Public Function CarryForward()

    Const cQuote = """"  'Thats two quotes
    Dim ctlCurrent As Control
    Set ctlCurrent = Screen.ActiveControl
    ctlCurrent.DefaultValue = cQuote & ctlCurrent.Value & cQuote

#If TALKON = True Then
    Debug.Print "Current default value: " & ctlCurrent.DefaultValue
    Debug.Print "New default value: " & ctlCurrent.DefaultValue
#End If

    Set ctlCurrent = Nothing

End Function

Arthur


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 3:59 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data?SOLVED


We're doing mostly 'maintenace' (don't know the English word for this)
for over 100 apps...not counting Excel -'tjoep' :-)

Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:On 1 Apr 2004 at 2:23, S
D wrote:

> Hi Gustav,
> Coffee? Plenty!
> Tough day...oi!
>
> MS-Development team of 5, 4 people are ill....guess who's not.... ;-)
>

You're lucky. MS Development team of one.

Coughing, sneezing, aching muscles, high temperature and deadlines
looming on a
couple of projects :-(


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From serbach at new.rr.com  Thu Apr  1 10:54:30 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 10:54:30 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP & FMS for 2000
Message-ID: <20040401105430.2139825652.serbach@new.rr.com>

Joe,

>> If I use the Access 2000 format of Access XP can use the FMS Developer
tools without messing anything up? <<

Sorry, I use the FMS tools but I don't use Access XP. However the FMS web site seems to indicate that the latest tools handle 2000, XP, and 2003. You may be able to upgrade.

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504

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From JHewson at karta.com  Thu Apr  1 10:50:27 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 10:50:27 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C13830D@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

I too have struggled with this for a long time.
I finally went to MS to see what they had to say.
Nothing helped.  When this thread started, I looked back on the items I had saved.
I found this jewel waiting for me.
It became clear what needed to be done, Debbie Elam posted the below code in January of this year.  It was so simple...
Thanks Debbie.

Jim
 

Put this in the detail section on format

Dim X As Single
Me.ScaleMode = 5
Me.DrawWidth = 3
X = 0
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 0.9604
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 1.9083
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 2.7604
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 3.6271
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 4.3354
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 5.2111
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 5.95

The value of X is the number of inches from the left you want the line to
be.

Debbie


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Steven W.
Erbach
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:47 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports


Dean,

I've struggled with this off and on over the past year. I finally just colored the background of the Detail section a light gray (230,230,230) and colored all the text boxes white. That gives the effect of a nice subtle grid.

Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504
 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr  1 10:55:05 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 11:55:05 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports
In-Reply-To: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C13830D@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
Message-ID: <20040401165503.QGRT1715.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Saved my bottom too -- was going to post it but you beat me to it. :) 

Susan H. 

I too have struggled with this for a long time.
I finally went to MS to see what they had to say.
Nothing helped.  When this thread started, I looked back on the items I had
saved.
I found this jewel waiting for me.
It became clear what needed to be done, Debbie Elam posted the below code in
January of this year.  It was so simple...
Thanks Debbie.

Jim
 

Put this in the detail section on format

Dim X As Single
Me.ScaleMode = 5
Me.DrawWidth = 3
X = 0
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 0.9604
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 1.9083
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 2.7604
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 3.6271
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 4.3354
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 5.2111
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 5.95

The value of X is the number of inches from the left you want the line to
be.




From DElam at jenkens.com  Thu Apr  1 11:01:13 2004
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 11:01:13 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0106BCC8@natexch.jenkens.com>

I actually found this jewel buried in a report I inherited when I started at
Jenkens.  Wish I knew who to attribute this to.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:55 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports


Saved my bottom too -- was going to post it but you beat me to it. :) 

Susan H. 

I too have struggled with this for a long time.
I finally went to MS to see what they had to say.
Nothing helped.  When this thread started, I looked back on the items I had
saved.
I found this jewel waiting for me.
It became clear what needed to be done, Debbie Elam posted the below code in
January of this year.  It was so simple...
Thanks Debbie.

Jim
 

Put this in the detail section on format

Dim X As Single
Me.ScaleMode = 5
Me.DrawWidth = 3
X = 0
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 0.9604
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 1.9083
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 2.7604
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 3.6271
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 4.3354
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 5.2111
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 5.95

The value of X is the number of inches from the left you want the line to
be.


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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Thu Apr  1 11:20:57 2004
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (David McAfee (Home))
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 09:20:57 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports
In-Reply-To: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0106BCC8@natexch.jenkens.com>
Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKKEDBEAAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

no, X is the number of twips (inches * 1440)

IF you tag the controls with something like COLORED

Then place the following code in the report's Detail_Format event
Dim ctl As Control
  Me.ScaleMode = 5
  For Each ctl In Me.Controls
    If ctl.Tag = "Colored" Then
        ctl.BackColor = Highlight
        Me.Line ((ctl.Left / 1440), 0)-((ctl.Left / 1440), 10)
        Me.Line (((ctl.Left + ctl.Width) / 1440), 0)-(((ctl.Left +
ctl.Width) / 1440), 10)
    End If
  Next ctl

You'll get your lines!

David

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 9:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports


I actually found this jewel buried in a report I inherited when I started at
Jenkens.  Wish I knew who to attribute this to.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:55 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports


Saved my bottom too -- was going to post it but you beat me to it. :)

Susan H.

I too have struggled with this for a long time.
I finally went to MS to see what they had to say.
Nothing helped.  When this thread started, I looked back on the items I had
saved.
I found this jewel waiting for me.
It became clear what needed to be done, Debbie Elam posted the below code in
January of this year.  It was so simple...
Thanks Debbie.

Jim


Put this in the detail section on format

Dim X As Single
Me.ScaleMode = 5
Me.DrawWidth = 3
X = 0
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 0.9604
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 1.9083
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 2.7604
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 3.6271
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 4.3354
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 5.2111
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 5.95

The value of X is the number of inches from the left you want the line to
be.


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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Thu Apr  1 11:31:14 2004
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (David McAfee (Home))
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 09:31:14 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports
In-Reply-To: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKKEDBEAAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKAEDCEAAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

Sorry tha first line was to be deleted, X is inches.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of David McAfee
(Home)
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 9:21 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports


no, X is the number of twips (inches * 1440)

IF you tag the controls with something like COLORED

Then place the following code in the report's Detail_Format event
Dim ctl As Control
  Me.ScaleMode = 5
  For Each ctl In Me.Controls
    If ctl.Tag = "Colored" Then
        ctl.BackColor = Highlight
        Me.Line ((ctl.Left / 1440), 0)-((ctl.Left / 1440), 10)
        Me.Line (((ctl.Left + ctl.Width) / 1440), 0)-(((ctl.Left +
ctl.Width) / 1440), 10)
    End If
  Next ctl

You'll get your lines!

David

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 9:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports


I actually found this jewel buried in a report I inherited when I started at
Jenkens.  Wish I knew who to attribute this to.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:55 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports


Saved my bottom too -- was going to post it but you beat me to it. :)

Susan H.

I too have struggled with this for a long time.
I finally went to MS to see what they had to say.
Nothing helped.  When this thread started, I looked back on the items I had
saved.
I found this jewel waiting for me.
It became clear what needed to be done, Debbie Elam posted the below code in
January of this year.  It was so simple...
Thanks Debbie.

Jim


Put this in the detail section on format

Dim X As Single
Me.ScaleMode = 5
Me.DrawWidth = 3
X = 0
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 0.9604
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 1.9083
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 2.7604
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 3.6271
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 4.3354
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 5.2111
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 5.95

The value of X is the number of inches from the left you want the line to
be.


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From ranthony at wrsystems.com  Thu Apr  1 11:45:06 2004
From: ranthony at wrsystems.com (ranthony at wrsystems.com)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 12:45:06 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports
Message-ID: <5F21A4E8B8DD734992EF9E70AC9D3064128B46@mail2.wrsystems.com>

Thanks for sharing this everyone, I just so happen to be working on a report
and the customer wants vertical lines a la an excel spreadsheet.  Schww-eet!

-----Original Message-----
From: Elam, Debbie [mailto:DElam at jenkens.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 12:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports

I actually found this jewel buried in a report I inherited when I started at
Jenkens.  Wish I knew who to attribute this to.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:55 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports


Saved my bottom too -- was going to post it but you beat me to it. :) 

Susan H. 

I too have struggled with this for a long time.
I finally went to MS to see what they had to say.
Nothing helped.  When this thread started, I looked back on the items I had
saved.
I found this jewel waiting for me.
It became clear what needed to be done, Debbie Elam posted the below code in
January of this year.  It was so simple...
Thanks Debbie.

Jim
 

Put this in the detail section on format

Dim X As Single
Me.ScaleMode = 5
Me.DrawWidth = 3
X = 0
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 0.9604
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 1.9083
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 2.7604
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 3.6271
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 4.3354
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 5.2111
Me.Line (X, 0)-(X, 22)
X = 5.95

The value of X is the number of inches from the left you want the line to
be.


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From doug at murphyscreativity.com  Thu Apr  1 14:06:32 2004
From: doug at murphyscreativity.com (Doug Murphy)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 12:06:32 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Transfer text field name 
In-Reply-To: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF80222789D@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <003301c41824$d6dfb190$8500a8c0@CX615377a>

Folks,

I am outputting the results of a query into a comma delimited text file
using the transfer text method. Field names are to be put in the first
row. Some of the query fields use assigned names, e.g., Street
#:[fldStreetNo].  The interesting thing is that the "#" in the field
name shows up in the query when the results are viewed but shows up as a
"." when I look at the text file. I put the symbols in quotes they are
not part of the output.  Any one have a suggestion on how to get
transfer text to put the "#" where it is supposed to be?

Thanks

Doug










From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Thu Apr  1 14:59:25 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 15:59:25 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Another Searchable Archives
Message-ID: <406C3C5D.28088.636217@localhost>

Well folks, it appears that the stars and planets have been in 
alignment this week, except for everyone in the house being sick.

AccessD now has a second searchable archive!!! The archives hosted by 
DBA, itself, are now searchable. This is in addition to Drew's 
archive, which have always been searchable.

You can get to it by pointing your ever so familiar web browser to:
http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/

Just fill in your favourite search term and click search and all will 
be found (we hope :)

The only limitation is that the search index is updated once per day, 
so any posts made after 0207 CST will not be searchable until the 
following day.  

Actually all of the lists will become searchable like this over time, 
as posts are made to it.  Any list that has had a post to it since 
March 29th, should be searchable now.

So if you want your favourite list to be searchable, just post to it. 
This includes dba-visio!!! :-)

-- 
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When everything is coming your way......you're in the wrong lane.  


From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Thu Apr  1 15:08:27 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 15:08:27 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Another Searchable Archives
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227A60@main2.marlow.com>

Good job!  Are we going to move the archives on my site to the official
site?  Since dba's site is now searchable?

Drew

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Bryan
Carbonnell
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 2:59 PM
To: access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Another Searchable Archives


Well folks, it appears that the stars and planets have been in 
alignment this week, except for everyone in the house being sick.

AccessD now has a second searchable archive!!! The archives hosted by 
DBA, itself, are now searchable. This is in addition to Drew's 
archive, which have always been searchable.

You can get to it by pointing your ever so familiar web browser to:
http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/

Just fill in your favourite search term and click search and all will 
be found (we hope :)

The only limitation is that the search index is updated once per day, 
so any posts made after 0207 CST will not be searchable until the 
following day.  

Actually all of the lists will become searchable like this over time, 
as posts are made to it.  Any list that has had a post to it since 
March 29th, should be searchable now.

So if you want your favourite list to be searchable, just post to it. 
This includes dba-visio!!! :-)

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr  1 15:42:34 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 16:42:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Transfer text field name 
In-Reply-To: <003301c41824$d6dfb190$8500a8c0@CX615377a>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPCEDKHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Personally I would recommend getting rid of the # entirely.

John W. Colby 
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Doug Murphy
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 3:07 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Transfer text field name 


Folks,

I am outputting the results of a query into a comma delimited text file
using the transfer text method. Field names are to be put in the first
row. Some of the query fields use assigned names, e.g., Street
#:[fldStreetNo].  The interesting thing is that the "#" in the field
name shows up in the query when the results are viewed but shows up as a
"." when I look at the text file. I put the symbols in quotes they are
not part of the output.  Any one have a suggestion on how to get
transfer text to put the "#" where it is supposed to be?

Thanks

Doug








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From doug at murphyscreativity.com  Thu Apr  1 16:03:45 2004
From: doug at murphyscreativity.com (Doug Murphy)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 14:03:45 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Transfer text field name 
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPCEDKHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <003b01c41835$33f1bb70$8500a8c0@CX615377a>

John,

If it was in my control it wouldn't be there.  Unfortunately this file
is imported into another commercial program that uses that field name.
All I am doing is converting the data from one format to another for the
import.  The idea was to use a query and a couple of formating functions
to reformat some data from a file downloaded from the web and format it
for input into the program. This was supposed to be a quick project; I
get burned every time I think that way.

Doug




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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 1:43 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Transfer text field name 


Personally I would recommend getting rid of the # entirely.

John W. Colby 
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Doug Murphy
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 3:07 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Transfer text field name 


Folks,

I am outputting the results of a query into a comma delimited text file
using the transfer text method. Field names are to be put in the first
row. Some of the query fields use assigned names, e.g., Street
#:[fldStreetNo].  The interesting thing is that the "#" in the field
name shows up in the query when the results are viewed but shows up as a
"." when I look at the text file. I put the symbols in quotes they are
not part of the output.  Any one have a suggestion on how to get
transfer text to put the "#" where it is supposed to be?

Thanks

Doug








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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr  1 16:14:29 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 08:14:29 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Transfer text field name 
In-Reply-To: <003b01c41835$33f1bb70$8500a8c0@CX615377a>
References: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPCEDKHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <406D20E5.32257.376CF9E@localhost>

On 1 Apr 2004 at 14:03, Doug Murphy wrote:

> John,
> 
> If it was in my control it wouldn't be there.  Unfortunately this file
> is imported into another commercial program that uses that field name.
> All I am doing is converting the data from one format to another for the
> import.  The idea was to use a query and a couple of formating functions
> to reformat some data from a file downloaded from the web and format it
> for input into the program. This was supposed to be a quick project; I
> get burned every time I think that way.
> 

I avoid the TransferText becuase of these sorts of problems. It's quite simple to role 
your own and have complete  control over what you  are doing. Here's a very basic 
outline for  a job specific export. You can automate a lot of this by passing parameters,
looping thourhg fields etc


Function ExportText() as Long
Dim rs as Recodset
Set rs = CurrentDb.OPenrecordset((qryMyQuery")

Open "MyExportFile" for Output as #1
Print #1,"Street #,Second Field Name,Field with & in it,Etc"
While not eof(1)
	Print #1, rs(0) & ",'" & rs(1) & "','" & rs(2) & "'," & rs(3) 
Wend
Close #1
End Function

 
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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Thu Apr  1 16:31:57 2004
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 14:31:57 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Transfer text field name 
In-Reply-To: <406D20E5.32257.376CF9E@localhost>
Message-ID: <003d01c41839$2444aee0$8500a8c0@CX615377a>

Stuart,

Thanks for the code.  When I originally looked at this that was the
approach I was going to take, but then to save time (ha!) I decided to
use transfertext.  Lesson learned.

Thanks again.

Doug






-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 2:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Transfer text field name 


On 1 Apr 2004 at 14:03, Doug Murphy wrote:

> John,
> 
> If it was in my control it wouldn't be there.  Unfortunately this file

> is imported into another commercial program that uses that field name.

> All I am doing is converting the data from one format to another for 
> the import.  The idea was to use a query and a couple of formating 
> functions to reformat some data from a file downloaded from the web 
> and format it for input into the program. This was supposed to be a 
> quick project; I get burned every time I think that way.
> 

I avoid the TransferText becuase of these sorts of problems. It's quite
simple to role 
your own and have complete  control over what you  are doing. Here's a
very basic 
outline for  a job specific export. You can automate a lot of this by
passing parameters, looping thourhg fields etc


Function ExportText() as Long
Dim rs as Recodset
Set rs = CurrentDb.OPenrecordset((qryMyQuery")

Open "MyExportFile" for Output as #1
Print #1,"Street #,Second Field Name,Field with & in it,Etc" While not
eof(1)
	Print #1, rs(0) & ",'" & rs(1) & "','" & rs(2) & "'," & rs(3) 
Wend
Close #1
End Function

 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr  1 18:06:32 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 19:06:32 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Transfer text field name 
In-Reply-To: <003b01c41835$33f1bb70$8500a8c0@CX615377a>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPGEDLHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

>This was supposed to be a quick project; I get burned every time I think
that way.

ROTFL.  Yup!

I believe we have some example code hanging around somewhere that shows how
to do this just using code.  Have you looked on AccessD's file area?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Doug Murphy
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 5:04 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Transfer text field name


John,

If it was in my control it wouldn't be there.  Unfortunately this file
is imported into another commercial program that uses that field name.
All I am doing is converting the data from one format to another for the
import.  The idea was to use a query and a couple of formating functions
to reformat some data from a file downloaded from the web and format it
for input into the program. This was supposed to be a quick project; I
get burned every time I think that way.

Doug




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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 1:43 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Transfer text field name


Personally I would recommend getting rid of the # entirely.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Doug Murphy
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 3:07 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Transfer text field name


Folks,

I am outputting the results of a query into a comma delimited text file
using the transfer text method. Field names are to be put in the first
row. Some of the query fields use assigned names, e.g., Street
#:[fldStreetNo].  The interesting thing is that the "#" in the field
name shows up in the query when the results are viewed but shows up as a
"." when I look at the text file. I put the symbols in quotes they are
not part of the output.  Any one have a suggestion on how to get
transfer text to put the "#" where it is supposed to be?

Thanks

Doug








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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr  1 18:12:43 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 19:12:43 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Transfer text field name 
In-Reply-To: <406D20E5.32257.376CF9E@localhost>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPIEDLHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

In the coming months I will have a similar problem to solve.  My client
handles claim processing for disability insurance - the middle man / call
center role.  Their client - the insurance company - is moving to new
software and I have to change to outputting just the fields that we already
export to them, perhaps 60 or 70 fields, into a single record of hundreds of
fields, formatted EXACTLY as they dictate, fixed field width.  They can't
even handle delimited, it must be fixed width fields.  Literally about 3000
bytes per record with all the blank fields just spaces.

Mainframes are just silly sometimes.  You should see the record format.
It's like hundreds of fields just "reserved" for some future need.  I
shudder to think of what their program looks like.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 5:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Transfer text field name


On 1 Apr 2004 at 14:03, Doug Murphy wrote:

> John,
>
> If it was in my control it wouldn't be there.  Unfortunately this file
> is imported into another commercial program that uses that field name.
> All I am doing is converting the data from one format to another for the
> import.  The idea was to use a query and a couple of formating functions
> to reformat some data from a file downloaded from the web and format it
> for input into the program. This was supposed to be a quick project; I
> get burned every time I think that way.
>

I avoid the TransferText becuase of these sorts of problems. It's quite
simple to role
your own and have complete  control over what you  are doing. Here's a very
basic
outline for  a job specific export. You can automate a lot of this by
passing parameters,
looping thourhg fields etc


Function ExportText() as Long
Dim rs as Recodset
Set rs = CurrentDb.OPenrecordset((qryMyQuery")

Open "MyExportFile" for Output as #1
Print #1,"Street #,Second Field Name,Field with & in it,Etc"
While not eof(1)
	Print #1, rs(0) & ",'" & rs(1) & "','" & rs(2) & "'," & rs(3)
Wend
Close #1
End Function


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From doug at murphyscreativity.com  Thu Apr  1 18:26:34 2004
From: doug at murphyscreativity.com (Doug Murphy)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 16:26:34 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Transfer text field name 
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPGEDLHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <000201c41849$2a749860$8500a8c0@CX615377a>

John,

I followed Stuarts lead and wrote a file routine that output all the
field names and then associated values into a delimited text file.  The
# comes through fine now. It was a good suggestion. Should have started
this way.  I'd still like to know what the problem is with transfertext,
but that may just be one of life's mysteries.

Doug






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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 4:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Transfer text field name 


>This was supposed to be a quick project; I get burned every time I 
>think
that way.

ROTFL.  Yup!

I believe we have some example code hanging around somewhere that shows
how to do this just using code.  Have you looked on AccessD's file area?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Doug Murphy
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 5:04 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Transfer text field name


John,

If it was in my control it wouldn't be there.  Unfortunately this file
is imported into another commercial program that uses that field name.
All I am doing is converting the data from one format to another for the
import.  The idea was to use a query and a couple of formating functions
to reformat some data from a file downloaded from the web and format it
for input into the program. This was supposed to be a quick project; I
get burned every time I think that way.

Doug




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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 1:43 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Transfer text field name


Personally I would recommend getting rid of the # entirely.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Doug Murphy
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 3:07 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Transfer text field name


Folks,

I am outputting the results of a query into a comma delimited text file
using the transfer text method. Field names are to be put in the first
row. Some of the query fields use assigned names, e.g., Street
#:[fldStreetNo].  The interesting thing is that the "#" in the field
name shows up in the query when the results are viewed but shows up as a
"." when I look at the text file. I put the symbols in quotes they are
not part of the output.  Any one have a suggestion on how to get
transfer text to put the "#" where it is supposed to be?

Thanks

Doug








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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr  1 18:42:34 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 10:42:34 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Transfer text field name 
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPIEDLHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <406D20E5.32257.376CF9E@localhost>
Message-ID: <406D439A.28009.4CF693@localhost>

On 1 Apr 2004 at 19:12, John W. Colby wrote:

> In the coming months I will have a similar problem to solve.  My client
> handles claim processing for disability insurance - the middle man / call
> center role.  Their client - the insurance company - is moving to new
> software and I have to change to outputting just the fields that we already
> export to them, perhaps 60 or 70 fields, into a single record of hundreds of
> fields, formatted EXACTLY as they dictate, fixed field width.  They can't
> even handle delimited, it must be fixed width fields.  Literally about 3000
> bytes per record with all the blank fields just spaces.
> 


A suggestion based on bitter experience for when you get round to this. 
Don't try to build the output by concatenation of variable length strings, it quickly 
becomes a nightmare to keep track of where you are.

Build the full string first with
strOutputString = Space$(3000)

Then insert your fields in the correct position with
Mid$(strOutputString,lngFldPosn) = strFieldData



 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr  1 19:08:27 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 20:08:27 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Transfer text field name 
In-Reply-To: <406D439A.28009.4CF693@localhost>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPEEDMHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Whoa, thanks for that.  It never would have occurred to me to do that.

I have a file spec with all the fields and their start / stop positions, as
well as the format.  I kinda figured I'd build a table that has all of that
info plus my corresponding field name (it's a rather monstrous query since
it pulls from about a dozen normalized tables).  Then build a function that
opens the recordset and builds each record based on their field spec table.

In the end, what a PITA.  But your suggestion will definitely make things
easier.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 7:43 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Transfer text field name


On 1 Apr 2004 at 19:12, John W. Colby wrote:

> In the coming months I will have a similar problem to solve.  My client
> handles claim processing for disability insurance - the middle man / call
> center role.  Their client - the insurance company - is moving to new
> software and I have to change to outputting just the fields that we
already
> export to them, perhaps 60 or 70 fields, into a single record of hundreds
of
> fields, formatted EXACTLY as they dictate, fixed field width.  They can't
> even handle delimited, it must be fixed width fields.  Literally about
3000
> bytes per record with all the blank fields just spaces.
>


A suggestion based on bitter experience for when you get round to this.
Don't try to build the output by concatenation of variable length strings,
it quickly
becomes a nightmare to keep track of where you are.

Build the full string first with
strOutputString = Space$(3000)

Then insert your fields in the correct position with
Mid$(strOutputString,lngFldPosn) = strFieldData




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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr  1 21:48:33 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 13:48:33 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Transfer text field name 
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPEEDMHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <406D439A.28009.4CF693@localhost>
Message-ID: <406D6F31.1161.F73C9A@localhost>

On 1 Apr 2004 at 20:08, John W. Colby wrote:

> Whoa, thanks for that.  It never would have occurred to me to do that.
> 
> I have a file spec with all the fields and their start / stop positions, as
> well as the format.  I kinda figured I'd build a table that has all of that
> info plus my corresponding field name (it's a rather monstrous query since
> it pulls from about a dozen normalized tables).  Then build a function that
> opens the recordset and builds each record based on their field spec table.
> 
> In the end, what a PITA.  But your suggestion will definitely make things
> easier.
> 

You will probably find that some data is left justified  and others right justified, possibly 
with different numbers of decimal places.

If you store a RightJustify flag and NoOfDecimalPlaces in your table along with the start 
position and length you can then build quite a simple function to step through each field 
in the table,  read and format values appropriately and poke them into the correct 
positions. It ends up being quite trivial to do, regardless of how big/complex the required 
output row is. 

The big advantage is that you can handle subsequent changes in the output spec very 
easily. (It's sort of a "space delimited export framework" <g>)












 
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From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Thu Apr  1 22:07:57 2004
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 09:37:57 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports
References: <20040401104644.1145960650.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <00a901c41869$1c512850$7c1865cb@winxp>

Dean,

    For a practical example, you could also see my sample db named ReportBorders at Rogers Access Library (other developers section) -
    http://www.rogersaccesslibrary.com

    The underlying approach could be adapted suitably for your specific needs.

Regards,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steven W. Erbach 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 22:16
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Vertical lines in Reports


  Dean,

  I've struggled with this off and on over the past year. I finally just colored the background of the Detail section a light gray (230,230,230) and colored all the text boxes white. That gives the effect of a nice subtle grid.

  Regards,
   
  Steve Erbach
  Scientific Marketing
  Neenah, WI
  920-969-0504
   
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From jwelz at hotmail.com  Thu Apr  1 23:46:34 2004
From: jwelz at hotmail.com (Jürgen Welz)
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 22:46:34 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Transfer text field name
Message-ID: <BAY2-F70yKFRJrzdDW60003ef8c@hotmail.com>

You may want to look at lset for fixed width data files:

http://www.vbwm.com/art_2001/UDT05/

is an example.



Ciao
J?rgen Welz
Edmonton, Alberta
jwelz at hotmail.com





>From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
>
>Whoa, thanks for that.  It never would have occurred to me to do that.
>
>I have a file spec with all the fields and their start / stop positions, as
>well as the format.  I kinda figured I'd build a table that has all of that
>info plus my corresponding field name (it's a rather monstrous query since
>it pulls from about a dozen normalized tables).  Then build a function that
>opens the recordset and builds each record based on their field spec table.
>
>In the end, what a PITA.  But your suggestion will definitely make things
>easier.
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stuart
>McLachlan
>Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 7:43 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Transfer text field name
>
>
>On 1 Apr 2004 at 19:12, John W. Colby wrote:
>
> > In the coming months I will have a similar problem to solve.  My client
> > handles claim processing for disability insurance - the middle man / 
>call
> > center role.  Their client - the insurance company - is moving to new
> > software and I have to change to outputting just the fields that we
>already
> > export to them, perhaps 60 or 70 fields, into a single record of 
>hundreds
>of
> > fields, formatted EXACTLY as they dictate, fixed field width.  They 
>can't
> > even handle delimited, it must be fixed width fields.  Literally about
>3000
> > bytes per record with all the blank fields just spaces.
> >
>
>
>A suggestion based on bitter experience for when you get round to this.
>Don't try to build the output by concatenation of variable length strings,
>it quickly
>becomes a nightmare to keep track of where you are.
>
>Build the full string first with
>strOutputString = Space$(3000)
>
>Then insert your fields in the correct position with
>Mid$(strOutputString,lngFldPosn) = strFieldData
>
>
>
>
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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Thu Apr  1 23:49:25 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 21:49:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Create table script...so close...SOLVED!!
In-Reply-To: <4435274.1080828891183.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>
Message-ID: <20040402054925.28435.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Paul, Charlotte,
 
both db_Text and adVarChar where incorrect, thnx anyway.
 
The solution is: rapapapa...string! 
debug.print arrFileLayout(y, 6) 
string
 
Go figure.
 
Sander
 
PS: I know can import/export interface files using 4 'main' tables.
tblInterface ( stores interface ID and direction (import/ export)
tblInterfaceData (Staging table: stores every line of the interface)
tblInterfaceLayout (stores the positions/fields/mandetory/PK/FK/etc/etc for every interface added to tblInterface, is also used to check tblInterfaceData for incorrect data)
tblInterfaceDistribution (Stores tags and such (if any) to identify wich line of data must be exported to wich table eg tag JUR0-I must be exported to tbl_GAS_1020_MI) 
 
:-)
 
I know there are a lot of interfaces this stuff doesn't work for but....
 

paul.hartland at fsmail.net wrote:
Just a thought have you tried dbText instead:
arrFileLayout(y, 6) contains the field type (=dbText)
Paul






Message date : Apr 01 2004, 02:57 PM
>From : "S D" 
To : "accessd" 
Copy to : 
Subject : [AccessD] Create table script...so close...
Hi group,

I need to create tables using the layout specified in a certain table. I found the SUB below on msdn.microsoft.com. Changed it a bit and voila the tables are created! HOWEVER, when i specify TEXT the darn thing creates MEMO fields?!? Qua Pasa?

Does anybody know how to change this so that I get proper text fields?
BTW: arrFileLayout(y, 6) contains the field type (=TEXT)
BTW2: I also used the actual word TEXT.

TIA,

Sander

Sub CreateTableX1(ByRef arrFileLayout())
Dim dbs As ADODB.Connection ' Database
Dim y As Integer
Dim strCreateTable As String
Dim strCreate As String
Dim strFields As String

Set dbs = CurrentProject.Connection()
' Create a table with two text fields.
strCreate = "CREATE TABLE ThisTable "
For y = 0 To UBound(arrFileLayout, 1)
'Debug.Print (arrFileLayout(y, 0))
strFields = strFields & arrFileLayout(y, 0) & arrFileLayout(y, 6) & ","
Next y

'remove last ,
strFields = Mid(strFields, 1, Len(strFields) - 1)
Debug.Print strFields

'Build sql
strCreateTable = strCreate & "(" & strFields & ")"
Debug.Print strCreateTable

'execute the blody thing
dbs.Execute strCreateTable

dbs.Close
End Sub






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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Thu Apr  1 23:54:27 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 21:54:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data ?
In-Reply-To: <65EB528406CCD211BE8F00902717D23D0795CA9D@perscomex31.hoffman.army.mil>
Message-ID: <20040402055427.30545.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>

Hihi here we go again. Everybody uses a different approach and they all work!
Some are more complex then others and in some cases (way) too heavy, how's that sledgehammer John ;-) but they all help!
 
thnx a lot.
 
Now all i have to do is do a LOT of documenting and then it's of to find myself a weddingsuit!
 
regards,
 
sander

"Brock, Christian T, HRC-Alexandria" <Christian.Brock at hoffman.army.mil> wrote:
The copy record and paste append commands will get every form field and
subform. Do not see how what you say to do provides any benefit over using
the three DoCmd.RunCommand statements.

Christian Brock



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From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Thursday, 01 April 2004 10:49
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?


...that "wizard" simply bites ...I'd create a "duplicate" button that saves
the pk of the current record to a variable or tag and then a query using the
saved pk to append a "new" record that is a duplicate of the saved one
except for the pk ...that would get you a dupe of every form field including
any subform.

William Hindman
ipsedixitism: something is true because I myself have said it is true ...the
philosophy of Noam Chomsky :)

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To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"

Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:22 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?


> Why go to the trouble? From the statement of intent, What the user really
> wants is a duplicate current record button, instead of a new record
button.
> The Access XP command button wizard will allow you to create a button that
> will duplicate the current record.
>
> It creates the following lines of code
> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 8, , acMenuVer70
> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 2, , acMenuVer70
> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 5, , acMenuVer70 'Paste Append
>
> Obviously MS did not update the wizard to use readable code. The
following
> will work as well.
> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSelectRecord
> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCopy
> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdPasteAppend
>
>
> Christian Brock
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
> Sent: Thursday, 01 April 2004 09:36
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data?
>
>
> Hi Tina
>
> > I begin to understand. At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event
> > Procedure will set the DefaultValue of each TextBox to the values
> > determined to already be stored in the record just saved. Is that
> > correct?
>
> Yes and no. No saving needs to take place:
>
> At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event Procedure will set the
> DefaultValue of each TextBox (or ComboBox etc.) to the values for the
> current record of those controls.
>
> > Does this require explicitly listing each TextBox of the form?
>
> Yes.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> >>>How does one set the DefautlValue at OnCurrent? I don't know how to do
> >>>that.
> >>
> >>That's not difficult - something like this:
> >>
> >> Dim txt As TextBox
> >> Set txt = Me!txtYourTextBox
> >>
> >> txt.DefaultValue = txt.Value
> >>
> >> Set txt = Nothing
> >>
> >>However, DefaultValue should be a string which means that if your
> >>textbox contains decimals or a date/time value you must be careful and
> >>convert to a string in US format:
> >>
> >> txt.DefaultValue = LTrim(Str(txt.Value))
> >>
> >>or
> >>
> >> txt.DefaultValue = _
> >> Format(txt.Value, "\#mm\/dd\/yyyy hh\:nn\:ss AM/PM\#")
> >>
> >>/gustav
> >>
> >>>>Tough day? No coffee?
> >>>>
> >>>>Set the DefaultValue at OnCurrent.
> >>>>
> >>>>As for Stuart's note on the KeyPreview, it's not a user feature, but a
> >>>>property of the form.
> >>>>
> >>>>/gustav
> >>>>
> >>>>>when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data
of
> the current record to be displayed in the new record.
> >>>>>So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA and
> then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear with
> the field username filled with AAA.
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Apr  2 00:01:57 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 22:01:57 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data ?
References: <20040402055427.30545.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <032301c41878$01b7c760$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

"...find myself a weddingsuit!"

Spectator or victim?

Rocky

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To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 9:54 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data ?


> Hihi here we go again. Everybody uses a different approach and they all
work!
> Some are more complex then others and in some cases (way) too heavy, how's
that sledgehammer John ;-) but they all help!
>
> thnx a lot.
>
> Now all i have to do is do a LOT of documenting and then it's of to find
myself a weddingsuit!
>
> regards,
>
> sander
>
> "Brock, Christian T, HRC-Alexandria" <Christian.Brock at hoffman.army.mil>
wrote:
> The copy record and paste append commands will get every form field and
> subform. Do not see how what you say to do provides any benefit over using
> the three DoCmd.RunCommand statements.
>
> Christian Brock
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Thursday, 01 April 2004 10:49
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data?
>
>
> ...that "wizard" simply bites ...I'd create a "duplicate" button that
saves
> the pk of the current record to a variable or tag and then a query using
the
> saved pk to append a "new" record that is a duplicate of the saved one
> except for the pk ...that would get you a dupe of every form field
including
> any subform.
>
> William Hindman
> ipsedixitism: something is true because I myself have said it is true
...the
> philosophy of Noam Chomsky :)
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Brock, Christian T, HRC-Alexandria"
>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>
> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:22 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data?
>
>
> > Why go to the trouble? From the statement of intent, What the user
really
> > wants is a duplicate current record button, instead of a new record
> button.
> > The Access XP command button wizard will allow you to create a button
that
> > will duplicate the current record.
> >
> > It creates the following lines of code
> > DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 8, , acMenuVer70
> > DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 2, , acMenuVer70
> > DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 5, , acMenuVer70 'Paste Append
> >
> > Obviously MS did not update the wizard to use readable code. The
> following
> > will work as well.
> > DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSelectRecord
> > DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCopy
> > DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdPasteAppend
> >
> >
> > Christian Brock
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
> > Sent: Thursday, 01 April 2004 09:36
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
> data?
> >
> >
> > Hi Tina
> >
> > > I begin to understand. At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event
> > > Procedure will set the DefaultValue of each TextBox to the values
> > > determined to already be stored in the record just saved. Is that
> > > correct?
> >
> > Yes and no. No saving needs to take place:
> >
> > At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event Procedure will set the
> > DefaultValue of each TextBox (or ComboBox etc.) to the values for the
> > current record of those controls.
> >
> > > Does this require explicitly listing each TextBox of the form?
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > /gustav
> >
> >
> > >>>How does one set the DefautlValue at OnCurrent? I don't know how to
do
> > >>>that.
> > >>
> > >>That's not difficult - something like this:
> > >>
> > >> Dim txt As TextBox
> > >> Set txt = Me!txtYourTextBox
> > >>
> > >> txt.DefaultValue = txt.Value
> > >>
> > >> Set txt = Nothing
> > >>
> > >>However, DefaultValue should be a string which means that if your
> > >>textbox contains decimals or a date/time value you must be careful and
> > >>convert to a string in US format:
> > >>
> > >> txt.DefaultValue = LTrim(Str(txt.Value))
> > >>
> > >>or
> > >>
> > >> txt.DefaultValue = _
> > >> Format(txt.Value, "\#mm\/dd\/yyyy hh\:nn\:ss AM/PM\#")
> > >>
> > >>/gustav
> > >>
> > >>>>Tough day? No coffee?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Set the DefaultValue at OnCurrent.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>As for Stuart's note on the KeyPreview, it's not a user feature, but
a
> > >>>>property of the form.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>/gustav
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data
> of
> > the current record to be displayed in the new record.
> > >>>>>So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA
and
> > then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear
with
> > the field username filled with AAA.
> >
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From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr  2 00:12:22 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 01:12:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?
References: <65EB528406CCD211BE8F00902717D23D0795CA9D@perscomex31.hoffman.army.mil>
Message-ID: <000501c41879$76782030$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...because Christian, I was never able to make the RunCommand version work
consistently in A97 and never tried using it in XP since I already had
working code  ...if you've got an actual sample where the RunCommands work
to dupe both the main form record and subs, I'd like to see it :)

William Hindman
ipsedixitism: something is true because I myself have said it is true ...the
philosophy of Noam Chomsky :)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brock, Christian T, HRC-Alexandria"
<Christian.Brock at hoffman.army.mil>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 11:24 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?


> The copy record and paste append commands will get every form field and
> subform.  Do not see how what you say to do provides any benefit over
using
> the three DoCmd.RunCommand statements.
>
> Christian Brock
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Thursday, 01 April 2004 10:49
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data?
>
>
> ...that "wizard" simply bites ...I'd create a "duplicate" button that
saves
> the pk of the current record to a variable or tag and then a query using
the
> saved pk to append a "new" record that is a duplicate of the saved one
> except for the pk ...that would get you a dupe of every form field
including
> any subform.
>
> William Hindman
> ipsedixitism: something is true because I myself have said it is true
...the
> philosophy of Noam Chomsky :)
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Brock, Christian T, HRC-Alexandria"
> <Christian.Brock at hoffman.army.mil>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:22 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data?
>
>
> > Why go to the trouble?  From the statement of intent, What the user
really
> > wants is a duplicate current record button, instead of a new record
> button.
> > The Access XP command button wizard will allow you to create a button
that
> > will duplicate the current record.
> >
> > It creates the following lines of code
> >     DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 8, , acMenuVer70
> >     DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 2, , acMenuVer70
> >     DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 5, , acMenuVer70 'Paste
Append
> >
> > Obviously MS did not update the wizard to use readable code.  The
> following
> > will work as well.
> >     DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSelectRecord
> >     DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCopy
> >     DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdPasteAppend
> >
> >
> > Christian Brock
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
> > Sent: Thursday, 01 April 2004 09:36
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
> data?
> >
> >
> > Hi Tina
> >
> > > I begin to understand.  At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event
> > > Procedure will set the DefaultValue of each TextBox to the values
> > > determined to already be stored in the record just saved.  Is that
> > > correct?
> >
> > Yes and no. No saving needs to take place:
> >
> > At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event Procedure will set the
> > DefaultValue of each TextBox (or ComboBox etc.) to the values for the
> > current record of those controls.
> >
> > > Does this require explicitly listing each TextBox of the form?
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > /gustav
> >
> >
> > >>>How does one set the DefautlValue at OnCurrent?  I don't know how to
do
> > >>>that.
> > >>
> > >>That's not difficult - something like this:
> > >>
> > >>  Dim txt As TextBox
> > >>  Set txt = Me!txtYourTextBox
> > >>
> > >>  txt.DefaultValue = txt.Value
> > >>
> > >>  Set txt = Nothing
> > >>
> > >>However, DefaultValue should be a string which means that if your
> > >>textbox contains decimals or a date/time value you must be careful and
> > >>convert to a string in US format:
> > >>
> > >>  txt.DefaultValue = LTrim(Str(txt.Value))
> > >>
> > >>or
> > >>
> > >>  txt.DefaultValue = _
> > >>    Format(txt.Value, "\#mm\/dd\/yyyy hh\:nn\:ss AM/PM\#")
> > >>
> > >>/gustav
> > >>
> > >>>>Tough day? No coffee?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Set the DefaultValue at OnCurrent.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>As for Stuart's note on the KeyPreview, it's not a user feature, but
a
> > >>>>property of the form.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>/gustav
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data
> of
> > the current record to be displayed in the new record.
> > >>>>>So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA
and
> > then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear
with
> > the field username filled with AAA.
> >
> > -- 
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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Fri Apr  2 01:06:12 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 23:06:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG
Message-ID: <20040402070612.57615.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi group,
 
I've got a combobox based on a query:
SELECT DISTINCT [TblArbo].[Datum]
FROM TblArbo
ORDER BY [TblArbo].[Datum] DESC;
Resulted in:
01-10-2003
02-09-2003
21-08-2001
 
The user asked if this could be printed in the following format: dd-mmm-yyyy
No problem, says stupid me:
SELECT DISTINCT Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy")
FROM TblArbo
ORDER BY Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy") DESC;
 
But now the ORDER BY ONLY checks the DD part?!?!?!?!
So this results in:
21-08-2001

02-09-2003
01-10-2003
?!!??! What kind of nonsense is this?
 
Sander


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From thevigil at kabelfoon.nl  Fri Apr  2 01:39:06 2004
From: thevigil at kabelfoon.nl (Bert-Jan Brinkhuis)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 09:39:06 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG
References: <20040402070612.57615.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001101c41885$9650a100$3f412d3e@jester>

Hi Sander,

i do not know what kind of nonsense that is, but i have a workaround for
you.

Add the original unformated [datum] field to your query and order on that
field.
Make sure you do not display that column in the combobox!

HTH

Bert-Jan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "S D" <accessd667 at yahoo.com>
To: "accessd" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 9:06 AM
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG


> Hi group,
>
> I've got a combobox based on a query:
> SELECT DISTINCT [TblArbo].[Datum]
> FROM TblArbo
> ORDER BY [TblArbo].[Datum] DESC;
> Resulted in:
> 01-10-2003
> 02-09-2003
> 21-08-2001
>
> The user asked if this could be printed in the following format:
dd-mmm-yyyy
> No problem, says stupid me:
> SELECT DISTINCT Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy")
> FROM TblArbo
> ORDER BY Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy") DESC;
>
> But now the ORDER BY ONLY checks the DD part?!?!?!?!
> So this results in:
> 21-08-2001
>
> 02-09-2003
> 01-10-2003
> ?!!??! What kind of nonsense is this?
>
> Sander
>
>
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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Fri Apr  2 02:49:12 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 00:49:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG
In-Reply-To: <001101c41885$9650a100$3f412d3e@jester>
Message-ID: <20040402084912.20282.qmail@web61101.mail.yahoo.com>

Bedankt :-) Bert
 
Only problem is that the user's decided that they want this format for every date in the app. So I started changing stuff like you mentioned...Worked like a charm except 1 form. Here is the Rowsource dynamic. It is determined via a lot of selections.
 
I'll have to figure this one out...
 
Sander

Bert-Jan Brinkhuis <thevigil at kabelfoon.nl> wrote:
Hi Sander,

i do not know what kind of nonsense that is, but i have a workaround for
you.

Add the original unformated [datum] field to your query and order on that
field.
Make sure you do not display that column in the combobox!

HTH

Bert-Jan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "S D" 
To: "accessd" 
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 9:06 AM
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG


> Hi group,
>
> I've got a combobox based on a query:
> SELECT DISTINCT [TblArbo].[Datum]
> FROM TblArbo
> ORDER BY [TblArbo].[Datum] DESC;
> Resulted in:
> 01-10-2003
> 02-09-2003
> 21-08-2001
>
> The user asked if this could be printed in the following format:
dd-mmm-yyyy
> No problem, says stupid me:
> SELECT DISTINCT Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy")
> FROM TblArbo
> ORDER BY Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy") DESC;
>
> But now the ORDER BY ONLY checks the DD part?!?!?!?!
> So this results in:
> 21-08-2001
>
> 02-09-2003
> 01-10-2003
> ?!!??! What kind of nonsense is this?
>
> Sander
>
>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr  2 02:46:05 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 10:46:05 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Transfer text field name
In-Reply-To: <BAY2-F70yKFRJrzdDW60003ef8c@hotmail.com>
References: <BAY2-F70yKFRJrzdDW60003ef8c@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <776625977.20040402104605@cactus.dk>

Hi John and J?rgen

This is a very nice article, and I too can strongly advocate the use of
user defined types; but also have an eye on RSet because - as Stuart
notes - you may have fields (numbers) which need to be right
justified.

Also, as Stuart suggests, the use of Mid() is highly recommended,
indeed for long string.

/gustav


> You may want to look at lset for fixed width data files:

> http://www.vbwm.com/art_2001/UDT05/

> is an example.

> Ciao
> J?rgen Welz
> Edmonton, Alberta
> jwelz at hotmail.com



From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr  2 02:57:33 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 10:57:33 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG
In-Reply-To: <20040402070612.57615.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20040402070612.57615.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <267314707.20040402105733@cactus.dk>

Hi Sander

Your "stupid" test is correct as it sorts DESC on a string.

Try this which I think is what Bert-Jan has in mind:

  SELECT DISTINCT
    Format([TblArbo].[Datum], "dd-mmm-yyyy")
  FROM
    TblArbo
  ORDER BY
    [TblArbo].[Datum] DESC;

/gustav


> I've got a combobox based on a query:
> SELECT DISTINCT [TblArbo].[Datum]
> FROM TblArbo
> ORDER BY [TblArbo].[Datum] DESC;
> Resulted in:
> 01-10-2003
> 02-09-2003
> 21-08-2001
 
> The user asked if this could be printed in the following format: dd-mmm-yyyy
> No problem, says stupid me:
> SELECT DISTINCT Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy")
> FROM TblArbo
> ORDER BY Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy") DESC;
 
> But now the ORDER BY ONLY checks the DD part?!?!?!?!
> So this results in:
> 21-08-2001

> 02-09-2003
> 01-10-2003
> ?!!??! What kind of nonsense is this?



From thevigil at kabelfoon.nl  Fri Apr  2 03:04:41 2004
From: thevigil at kabelfoon.nl (Bert-Jan Brinkhuis)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 11:04:41 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG
References: <20040402084912.20282.qmail@web61101.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003601c41891$8965ef20$3f412d3e@jester>

Graag gedaan :-) Sander

How is the rowsource dynamic? Do you make an sql string dynamically and make
that the rowsource?

Bert-Jan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "S D" <accessd667 at yahoo.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG


> Bedankt :-) Bert
>
> Only problem is that the user's decided that they want this format for
every date in the app. So I started changing stuff like you
mentioned...Worked like a charm except 1 form. Here is the Rowsource
dynamic. It is determined via a lot of selections.
>
> I'll have to figure this one out...
>
> Sander
>
> Bert-Jan Brinkhuis <thevigil at kabelfoon.nl> wrote:
> Hi Sander,
>
> i do not know what kind of nonsense that is, but i have a workaround for
> you.
>
> Add the original unformated [datum] field to your query and order on that
> field.
> Make sure you do not display that column in the combobox!
>
> HTH
>
> Bert-Jan
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "S D"
> To: "accessd"
> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 9:06 AM
> Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG
>
>
> > Hi group,
> >
> > I've got a combobox based on a query:
> > SELECT DISTINCT [TblArbo].[Datum]
> > FROM TblArbo
> > ORDER BY [TblArbo].[Datum] DESC;
> > Resulted in:
> > 01-10-2003
> > 02-09-2003
> > 21-08-2001
> >
> > The user asked if this could be printed in the following format:
> dd-mmm-yyyy
> > No problem, says stupid me:
> > SELECT DISTINCT Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy")
> > FROM TblArbo
> > ORDER BY Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy") DESC;
> >
> > But now the ORDER BY ONLY checks the DD part?!?!?!?!
> > So this results in:
> > 21-08-2001
> >
> > 02-09-2003
> > 01-10-2003
> > ?!!??! What kind of nonsense is this?
> >
> > Sander
> >
> >
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr  2 04:22:55 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 12:22:55 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Portugal
Message-ID: <3812436152.20040402122255@cactus.dk>

Hi all

I'll be visiting Portugal next week.

Would any listers be present in the Lisboa area to meet for a glass of
port?

/gustav



From djkr at msn.com  Fri Apr  2 04:33:25 2004
From: djkr at msn.com (DJK(John) Robinson)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 11:33:25 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Portugal
In-Reply-To: <3812436152.20040402122255@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <001e01c4189d$edcc5560$3500a8c0@dabsight>

Only in spirit(!)  Have one for me.  It's a lovely city.

John


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Gustav Brock
> Sent: 02 April 2004 11:23
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Portugal
> 
> 
> Hi all
> 
> I'll be visiting Portugal next week.
> 
> Would any listers be present in the Lisboa area to meet for a 
> glass of port?
> 
> /gustav
> 
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> 


From paulo at esb.ucp.pt  Fri Apr  2 05:01:44 2004
From: paulo at esb.ucp.pt (Paulo Alexandre Ramos)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 12:01:44 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Portugal
In-Reply-To: <3812436152.20040402122255@cactus.dk>
References: <3812436152.20040402122255@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20C9036E-8495-11D8-BE6F-000A9580E9F4@esb.ucp.pt>

Only if you come to Porto :-)


I'm here and I will be glad take you to the places of Porto wine is 
stored.


Paulo

On Apr 2, 2004, at 11:22 AM, Gustav Brock wrote:

> Hi all
>
> I'll be visiting Portugal next week.
>
> Would any listers be present in the Lisboa area to meet for a glass of
> port?
>
> /gustav
>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr  2 05:40:38 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 13:40:38 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Portugal
In-Reply-To: <20C9036E-8495-11D8-BE6F-000A9580E9F4@esb.ucp.pt>
References: <3812436152.20040402122255@cactus.dk>
	<20C9036E-8495-11D8-BE6F-000A9580E9F4@esb.ucp.pt>
Message-ID: <1017099017.20040402134038@cactus.dk>

Hi Paulo

> Only if you come to Porto :-)

We have not decided yet. Our traveling plan is relaxed and not fixed.
I'll contact you off-line!

/gustav


> I'm here and I will be glad take you to the places of Porto wine is 
> stored.


> Paulo

> On Apr 2, 2004, at 11:22 AM, Gustav Brock wrote:

>> Hi all
>>
>> I'll be visiting Portugal next week.
>>
>> Would any listers be present in the Lisboa area to meet for a glass of
>> port?
>>
>> /gustav



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Apr  2 07:28:53 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 08:28:53 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data ?
In-Reply-To: <20040402055427.30545.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPCEEBHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Sander,

>Some are more complex then others and in some cases (way) too heavy, how's
that sledgehammer John ;-) but they all help!

While I can appreciate personal opinion I have to ask how putting reusable
code into a framework is (way) too heavy?

In the beginning was assembler, and all was right.  But there was no
structure and it took forever to write code, so higher level languages were
designed with functions and dimensioned variables.  Of course there were
those who scoffed at the overhead, and how slow it ran, but in general it
was accepted as a good thing and was taught in schools and used by many
programmers.  But there were still many problems that remained and concepts
such as objects, and classes and inheritance were designed.  Of course there
were those who scoffed at the overhead, and how slow it ran, but in general
it was accepted as a good thing, and was taught in school and used by many
programmers.

Re-use, encapsulation, and all that stuff is (now) widely accepted practice.
Whether or not you personally like these practices is only relevant to you
(and the cost to your client of course).

Have you ever heard of Steve Gibson of Spin Right fame?  He does all his
programming in assembler!  Hmm... ok.  For his purposes that is apparently
just right, but it doesn't mean I want to do that.

A framework is nothing more or less that reusability / encapsulation taken
to the next level.  It isn't like I invented the concept - ever heard of
.NET?  Can you say FRAMEWORK?.

When you "attack" using a framework you are simply demonstrating a
preference for a way of doing things that may be better for your purposes
but definitely is NOT better for my purposes, nor I suspect, for many other
people.

>how's that sledgehammer John

Just fine thanks.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:54 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data ?


Hihi here we go again. Everybody uses a different approach and they all
work!
Some are more complex then others and in some cases (way) too heavy, how's
that sledgehammer John ;-) but they all help!

thnx a lot.

Now all i have to do is do a LOT of documenting and then it's of to find
myself a weddingsuit!

regards,

sander

"Brock, Christian T, HRC-Alexandria" <Christian.Brock at hoffman.army.mil>
wrote:
The copy record and paste append commands will get every form field and
subform. Do not see how what you say to do provides any benefit over using
the three DoCmd.RunCommand statements.

Christian Brock



-----Original Message-----
From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, 01 April 2004 10:49
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?


...that "wizard" simply bites ...I'd create a "duplicate" button that saves
the pk of the current record to a variable or tag and then a query using the
saved pk to append a "new" record that is a duplicate of the saved one
except for the pk ...that would get you a dupe of every form field including
any subform.

William Hindman
ipsedixitism: something is true because I myself have said it is true ...the
philosophy of Noam Chomsky :)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brock, Christian T, HRC-Alexandria"

To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"

Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:22 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?


> Why go to the trouble? From the statement of intent, What the user really
> wants is a duplicate current record button, instead of a new record
button.
> The Access XP command button wizard will allow you to create a button that
> will duplicate the current record.
>
> It creates the following lines of code
> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 8, , acMenuVer70
> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 2, , acMenuVer70
> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 5, , acMenuVer70 'Paste Append
>
> Obviously MS did not update the wizard to use readable code. The
following
> will work as well.
> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSelectRecord
> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCopy
> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdPasteAppend
>
>
> Christian Brock
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
> Sent: Thursday, 01 April 2004 09:36
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data?
>
>
> Hi Tina
>
> > I begin to understand. At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event
> > Procedure will set the DefaultValue of each TextBox to the values
> > determined to already be stored in the record just saved. Is that
> > correct?
>
> Yes and no. No saving needs to take place:
>
> At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event Procedure will set the
> DefaultValue of each TextBox (or ComboBox etc.) to the values for the
> current record of those controls.
>
> > Does this require explicitly listing each TextBox of the form?
>
> Yes.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> >>>How does one set the DefautlValue at OnCurrent? I don't know how to do
> >>>that.
> >>
> >>That's not difficult - something like this:
> >>
> >> Dim txt As TextBox
> >> Set txt = Me!txtYourTextBox
> >>
> >> txt.DefaultValue = txt.Value
> >>
> >> Set txt = Nothing
> >>
> >>However, DefaultValue should be a string which means that if your
> >>textbox contains decimals or a date/time value you must be careful and
> >>convert to a string in US format:
> >>
> >> txt.DefaultValue = LTrim(Str(txt.Value))
> >>
> >>or
> >>
> >> txt.DefaultValue = _
> >> Format(txt.Value, "\#mm\/dd\/yyyy hh\:nn\:ss AM/PM\#")
> >>
> >>/gustav
> >>
> >>>>Tough day? No coffee?
> >>>>
> >>>>Set the DefaultValue at OnCurrent.
> >>>>
> >>>>As for Stuart's note on the KeyPreview, it's not a user feature, but a
> >>>>property of the form.
> >>>>
> >>>>/gustav
> >>>>
> >>>>>when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data
of
> the current record to be displayed in the new record.
> >>>>>So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA and
> then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear with
> the field username filled with AAA.
>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr  2 07:47:12 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 15:47:12 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Portugal
In-Reply-To: <001e01c4189d$edcc5560$3500a8c0@dabsight>
References: <001e01c4189d$edcc5560$3500a8c0@dabsight>
Message-ID: <18324693457.20040402154712@cactus.dk>

Hi John

OK. I'll have you in mind!

/gustav


> Only in spirit(!)  Have one for me.  It's a lovely city.

> John


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
>> Gustav Brock
>> Sent: 02 April 2004 11:23
>> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>> Subject: [AccessD] Portugal
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all
>> 
>> I'll be visiting Portugal next week.
>> 
>> Would any listers be present in the Lisboa area to meet for a 
>> glass of port?
>> 
>> /gustav



From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Fri Apr  2 07:48:09 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 05:48:09 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG
In-Reply-To: <267314707.20040402105733@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20040402134809.45618.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi gustav,
 
I've solved the problem. Twas a nasty one.
but euh try it if you want. create a table with a date field like below and run the query...no go!
 
Thanx anyway.
 
Sander


Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
Hi Sander

Your "stupid" test is correct as it sorts DESC on a string.

Try this which I think is what Bert-Jan has in mind:

SELECT DISTINCT
Format([TblArbo].[Datum], "dd-mmm-yyyy")
FROM
TblArbo
ORDER BY
[TblArbo].[Datum] DESC;

/gustav


> I've got a combobox based on a query:
> SELECT DISTINCT [TblArbo].[Datum]
> FROM TblArbo
> ORDER BY [TblArbo].[Datum] DESC;
> Resulted in:
> 01-10-2003
> 02-09-2003
> 21-08-2001

> The user asked if this could be printed in the following format: dd-mmm-yyyy
> No problem, says stupid me:
> SELECT DISTINCT Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy")
> FROM TblArbo
> ORDER BY Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy") DESC;

> But now the ORDER BY ONLY checks the DD part?!?!?!?!
> So this results in:
> 21-08-2001

> 02-09-2003
> 01-10-2003
> ?!!??! What kind of nonsense is this?

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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Fri Apr  2 07:49:46 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 05:49:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG
In-Reply-To: <003601c41891$8965ef20$3f412d3e@jester>
Message-ID: <20040402134946.77115.qmail@web61110.mail.yahoo.com>

Yep, that's it....however, like everything in this app...it doesn't work!
 
Sander

Bert-Jan Brinkhuis <thevigil at kabelfoon.nl> wrote:
Graag gedaan :-) Sander

How is the rowsource dynamic? Do you make an sql string dynamically and make
that the rowsource?

Bert-Jan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "S D" 
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"

Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG


> Bedankt :-) Bert
>
> Only problem is that the user's decided that they want this format for
every date in the app. So I started changing stuff like you
mentioned...Worked like a charm except 1 form. Here is the Rowsource
dynamic. It is determined via a lot of selections.
>
> I'll have to figure this one out...
>
> Sander
>
> Bert-Jan Brinkhuis wrote:
> Hi Sander,
>
> i do not know what kind of nonsense that is, but i have a workaround for
> you.
>
> Add the original unformated [datum] field to your query and order on that
> field.
> Make sure you do not display that column in the combobox!
>
> HTH
>
> Bert-Jan
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "S D"
> To: "accessd"
> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 9:06 AM
> Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG
>
>
> > Hi group,
> >
> > I've got a combobox based on a query:
> > SELECT DISTINCT [TblArbo].[Datum]
> > FROM TblArbo
> > ORDER BY [TblArbo].[Datum] DESC;
> > Resulted in:
> > 01-10-2003
> > 02-09-2003
> > 21-08-2001
> >
> > The user asked if this could be printed in the following format:
> dd-mmm-yyyy
> > No problem, says stupid me:
> > SELECT DISTINCT Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy")
> > FROM TblArbo
> > ORDER BY Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy") DESC;
> >
> > But now the ORDER BY ONLY checks the DD part?!?!?!?!
> > So this results in:
> > 21-08-2001
> >
> > 02-09-2003
> > 01-10-2003
> > ?!!??! What kind of nonsense is this?
> >
> > Sander
> >
> >
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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Fri Apr  2 07:54:48 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 05:54:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data ?
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPCEEBHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <20040402135448.38639.qmail@web61107.mail.yahoo.com>

John (and others)
 
I didn't mean to offend anybody but I think i'm in a different line of work.  Where doing maintenance on EXISTING apps. We don't build them ourselves (we also do that but not for this customer)
 
Frameworks are GREAT! I'm playing around with you're examples a lot and I love it. But it's (almost) impossible to implement these in existing apps without rebuilding them from scratch. Extra problem here is that everything is on a very tight budget. 
 
Anyways, thnx for the reply.
 
Regards,
 
Sander 

"John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
Sander,

>Some are more complex then others and in some cases (way) too heavy, how's
that sledgehammer John ;-) but they all help!

While I can appreciate personal opinion I have to ask how putting reusable
code into a framework is (way) too heavy?

In the beginning was assembler, and all was right. But there was no
structure and it took forever to write code, so higher level languages were
designed with functions and dimensioned variables. Of course there were
those who scoffed at the overhead, and how slow it ran, but in general it
was accepted as a good thing and was taught in schools and used by many
programmers. But there were still many problems that remained and concepts
such as objects, and classes and inheritance were designed. Of course there
were those who scoffed at the overhead, and how slow it ran, but in general
it was accepted as a good thing, and was taught in school and used by many
programmers.

Re-use, encapsulation, and all that stuff is (now) widely accepted practice.
Whether or not you personally like these practices is only relevant to you
(and the cost to your client of course).

Have you ever heard of Steve Gibson of Spin Right fame? He does all his
programming in assembler! Hmm... ok. For his purposes that is apparently
just right, but it doesn't mean I want to do that.

A framework is nothing more or less that reusability / encapsulation taken
to the next level. It isn't like I invented the concept - ever heard of
.NET? Can you say FRAMEWORK?.

When you "attack" using a framework you are simply demonstrating a
preference for a way of doing things that may be better for your purposes
but definitely is NOT better for my purposes, nor I suspect, for many other
people.

>how's that sledgehammer John

Just fine thanks.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:54 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data ?


Hihi here we go again. Everybody uses a different approach and they all
work!
Some are more complex then others and in some cases (way) too heavy, how's
that sledgehammer John ;-) but they all help!

thnx a lot.

Now all i have to do is do a LOT of documenting and then it's of to find
myself a weddingsuit!

regards,

sander

"Brock, Christian T, HRC-Alexandria" 
wrote:
The copy record and paste append commands will get every form field and
subform. Do not see how what you say to do provides any benefit over using
the three DoCmd.RunCommand statements.

Christian Brock



-----Original Message-----
From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, 01 April 2004 10:49
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?


...that "wizard" simply bites ...I'd create a "duplicate" button that saves
the pk of the current record to a variable or tag and then a query using the
saved pk to append a "new" record that is a duplicate of the saved one
except for the pk ...that would get you a dupe of every form field including
any subform.

William Hindman
ipsedixitism: something is true because I myself have said it is true ...the
philosophy of Noam Chomsky :)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brock, Christian T, HRC-Alexandria"

To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"

Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:22 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?


> Why go to the trouble? From the statement of intent, What the user really
> wants is a duplicate current record button, instead of a new record
button.
> The Access XP command button wizard will allow you to create a button that
> will duplicate the current record.
>
> It creates the following lines of code
> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 8, , acMenuVer70
> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 2, , acMenuVer70
> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 5, , acMenuVer70 'Paste Append
>
> Obviously MS did not update the wizard to use readable code. The
following
> will work as well.
> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSelectRecord
> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCopy
> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdPasteAppend
>
>
> Christian Brock
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
> Sent: Thursday, 01 April 2004 09:36
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data?
>
>
> Hi Tina
>
> > I begin to understand. At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event
> > Procedure will set the DefaultValue of each TextBox to the values
> > determined to already be stored in the record just saved. Is that
> > correct?
>
> Yes and no. No saving needs to take place:
>
> At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event Procedure will set the
> DefaultValue of each TextBox (or ComboBox etc.) to the values for the
> current record of those controls.
>
> > Does this require explicitly listing each TextBox of the form?
>
> Yes.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> >>>How does one set the DefautlValue at OnCurrent? I don't know how to do
> >>>that.
> >>
> >>That's not difficult - something like this:
> >>
> >> Dim txt As TextBox
> >> Set txt = Me!txtYourTextBox
> >>
> >> txt.DefaultValue = txt.Value
> >>
> >> Set txt = Nothing
> >>
> >>However, DefaultValue should be a string which means that if your
> >>textbox contains decimals or a date/time value you must be careful and
> >>convert to a string in US format:
> >>
> >> txt.DefaultValue = LTrim(Str(txt.Value))
> >>
> >>or
> >>
> >> txt.DefaultValue = _
> >> Format(txt.Value, "\#mm\/dd\/yyyy hh\:nn\:ss AM/PM\#")
> >>
> >>/gustav
> >>
> >>>>Tough day? No coffee?
> >>>>
> >>>>Set the DefaultValue at OnCurrent.
> >>>>
> >>>>As for Stuart's note on the KeyPreview, it's not a user feature, but a
> >>>>property of the form.
> >>>>
> >>>>/gustav
> >>>>
> >>>>>when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data
of
> the current record to be displayed in the new record.
> >>>>>So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA and
> then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear with
> the field username filled with AAA.
>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr  2 07:57:22 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 15:57:22 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG
In-Reply-To: <20040402134809.45618.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20040402134809.45618.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4425303804.20040402155722@cactus.dk>

Hi Sander

Well - but what is the bug and how did you solve it?

/gustav


> Hi gustav,
 
> I've solved the problem. Twas a nasty one.
> but euh try it if you want. create a table with a date field like below and run the query...no go!
 
> Thanx anyway.
 
> Sander


> Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi Sander

> Your "stupid" test is correct as it sorts DESC on a string.

> Try this which I think is what Bert-Jan has in mind:

> SELECT DISTINCT
> Format([TblArbo].[Datum], "dd-mmm-yyyy")
> FROM
> TblArbo
> ORDER BY
> [TblArbo].[Datum] DESC;

> /gustav


>> I've got a combobox based on a query:
>> SELECT DISTINCT [TblArbo].[Datum]
>> FROM TblArbo
>> ORDER BY [TblArbo].[Datum] DESC;
>> Resulted in:
>> 01-10-2003
>> 02-09-2003
>> 21-08-2001

>> The user asked if this could be printed in the following format: dd-mmm-yyyy
>> No problem, says stupid me:
>> SELECT DISTINCT Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy")
>> FROM TblArbo
>> ORDER BY Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy") DESC;

>> But now the ORDER BY ONLY checks the DD part?!?!?!?!
>> So this results in:
>> 21-08-2001

>> 02-09-2003
>> 01-10-2003
>> ?!!??! What kind of nonsense is this?



From deanellis at iprimus.com.au  Fri Apr  2 08:23:32 2004
From: deanellis at iprimus.com.au (Dean Ellis)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 23:53:32 +0930 (Cen. Australia Standard Time)
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Vertical Lines in a Report
Message-ID: <406D7764.000003.72847@jedel>

Everyone,
 
Thanks for your replies to this post.
 
Dazza,  The code you gave me works and I did a similar thing to start with,
the problem i'm having is the height of the line isn't changing with the
Growth of the Memo boxes that are between the two horizontal lines. and
because of this, I get a big gap between the bottom line and the bottom of
the vertical line.
 
The othe rtwo sets of code that were posted worked as well, but they only
gave me the hieght of the line, but it was always the full height of the
detail section of the report. I want to specify the top position to join the
ned of a horizontal line and make the bottom end of the vertical line
postion relative to the size of the text boxes set at "Can Grow" so that the
vertical lines will alway join top and bottom.
 
The replies I got linking me to the websites. that site was interesting
enough however, I have absolutel no idea at what to change to set the
vetical lines to suit my reports
 
Hope I have explaine this.
 
Cheers
 
Dean

From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Fri Apr  2 09:36:41 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 10:36:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Default Printer for Access Report
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30806650@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB3D1@ADGSERVER>

I have found that printing a report (that is checked into SourceSafe, that
is, not updatable) to the Acrobat PDF printer will change the printer from
the default to the PDF printer.  Many times, but not all, the printer will
stay set to the PDF printer unless I go in and change it to the default
printer.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 9:57 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Default Printer for Access Report


By default, the Printer Dialogue box does go to the default printer unless
the report has one specifically specified.  As far as I know, you have no
control over the Printer Dialogue box from within Access.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Geller
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 9:31 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Default Printer for Access Report


Thanks, Doris, that was the problem.  I'm wondering if, as a fail safe
measure, can I write code that would make sure that when that Printer
Dialogue box opens it is always set to go to the default printer?  I'd want
users to be able to pick a different option if they desired, but just as the
default, that the print box would be set to go to the default printer. Where
would I put the code?

--Susan


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 12:03 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Default Printer for Access Report

Open that report in design view and then click on "File" and choose "Page
Setup".  It is possible it get set accidentally when the report was
designed.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Geller
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 12:28 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Default Printer for Access Report


I have a reporting tool built in Access (2002) that is essentially a wizard
where users pick a report, set criteria and then see their output. There are
nearly 100 reports in the app.  When a user choses to print a report, the
default printer that comes up in the print dialog box is the default printer
set on their machine, EXCEPT for one of the reports.  On that one report
only, the default printer that comes up in the dialogue box is a different
printer.  All users get this different printer.  I did not write any code or
make any settings to indicate printer choice.  What could be happening?  How
can I get this one report to print to the user's default printer?

Note:  The only way that users can print a report is with a toolbar PRINT
button that I brings up the dialogue box.  There is no file menu from the
reports and there is no button with a printer icon that sends reports
straight to the printer.

--Susan



Susan B. Geller
Office of Information Systems
College of Continuing Education
University of Minnesota
306 Wesbrook Hall
77 Pleasant Street SE
Minneapolis, MN 55455
Phone:  612-626-4785
Fax:  612-625-2568





From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Apr  2 09:45:53 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 09:45:53 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227A6B@main2.marlow.com>

Because Format() returns a string, so you are telling it to SORT by a
string, not a date.  Your ORDER BY line should just have [TblArbo].[Datum].
Keep the Format in the SELECT line, and you should be good to go.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 1:06 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG


Hi group,
 
I've got a combobox based on a query:
SELECT DISTINCT [TblArbo].[Datum]
FROM TblArbo
ORDER BY [TblArbo].[Datum] DESC;
Resulted in:
01-10-2003
02-09-2003
21-08-2001
 
The user asked if this could be printed in the following format: dd-mmm-yyyy
No problem, says stupid me:
SELECT DISTINCT Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy")
FROM TblArbo
ORDER BY Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy") DESC;
 
But now the ORDER BY ONLY checks the DD part?!?!?!?!
So this results in:
21-08-2001

02-09-2003
01-10-2003
?!!??! What kind of nonsense is this?
 
Sander


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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Fri Apr  2 11:26:11 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 12:26:11 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Input Masks
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB3A@nnse14.nns.com>

Group,

I have several text fields that contain numerical data stored as text.  Will
a numerical input mask have any effect?


Mark


From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr  2 11:30:05 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 12:30:05 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Input Masks
In-Reply-To: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB3A@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <20040402173003.UBMZ1746.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Not sure what you mean by effect -- an input mask simply directs the user to
enter the data in a specific way. It won't change the actual data itself. If
you're needing visual clues to help the user through the data entry process,
input mask is a good way to go. 

Susan H. 

Group,

I have several text fields that contain numerical data stored as text.  Will
a numerical input mask have any effect?




From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Fri Apr  2 11:46:22 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 12:46:22 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Input Masks
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB3B@nnse14.nns.com>

What I was worried about was that an input mask of 000000000 would not work
if used in a text field...but it does...I tested it on a copy of my data.

Thanks,

Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:30 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Input Masks


Not sure what you mean by effect -- an input mask simply directs the user to
enter the data in a specific way. It won't change the actual data itself. If
you're needing visual clues to help the user through the data entry process,
input mask is a good way to go. 

Susan H. 

Group,

I have several text fields that contain numerical data stored as text.  Will
a numerical input mask have any effect?


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Apr  2 15:58:30 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 16:58:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data ?
In-Reply-To: <20040402135448.38639.qmail@web61107.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPCEEGHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

As Lilly Tomlin used to say on Laugh-In

Oh.  Never mind!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 8:55 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data ?


John (and others)

I didn't mean to offend anybody but I think i'm in a different line of work.
Where doing maintenance on EXISTING apps. We don't build them ourselves (we
also do that but not for this customer)

Frameworks are GREAT! I'm playing around with you're examples a lot and I
love it. But it's (almost) impossible to implement these in existing apps
without rebuilding them from scratch. Extra problem here is that everything
is on a very tight budget.

Anyways, thnx for the reply.

Regards,

Sander

"John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
Sander,

>Some are more complex then others and in some cases (way) too heavy, how's
that sledgehammer John ;-) but they all help!

While I can appreciate personal opinion I have to ask how putting reusable
code into a framework is (way) too heavy?

In the beginning was assembler, and all was right. But there was no
structure and it took forever to write code, so higher level languages were
designed with functions and dimensioned variables. Of course there were
those who scoffed at the overhead, and how slow it ran, but in general it
was accepted as a good thing and was taught in schools and used by many
programmers. But there were still many problems that remained and concepts
such as objects, and classes and inheritance were designed. Of course there
were those who scoffed at the overhead, and how slow it ran, but in general
it was accepted as a good thing, and was taught in school and used by many
programmers.

Re-use, encapsulation, and all that stuff is (now) widely accepted practice.
Whether or not you personally like these practices is only relevant to you
(and the cost to your client of course).

Have you ever heard of Steve Gibson of Spin Right fame? He does all his
programming in assembler! Hmm... ok. For his purposes that is apparently
just right, but it doesn't mean I want to do that.

A framework is nothing more or less that reusability / encapsulation taken
to the next level. It isn't like I invented the concept - ever heard of
.NET? Can you say FRAMEWORK?.

When you "attack" using a framework you are simply demonstrating a
preference for a way of doing things that may be better for your purposes
but definitely is NOT better for my purposes, nor I suspect, for many other
people.

>how's that sledgehammer John

Just fine thanks.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:54 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data ?


Hihi here we go again. Everybody uses a different approach and they all
work!
Some are more complex then others and in some cases (way) too heavy, how's
that sledgehammer John ;-) but they all help!

thnx a lot.

Now all i have to do is do a LOT of documenting and then it's of to find
myself a weddingsuit!

regards,

sander

"Brock, Christian T, HRC-Alexandria"
wrote:
The copy record and paste append commands will get every form field and
subform. Do not see how what you say to do provides any benefit over using
the three DoCmd.RunCommand statements.

Christian Brock



-----Original Message-----
From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, 01 April 2004 10:49
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?


...that "wizard" simply bites ...I'd create a "duplicate" button that saves
the pk of the current record to a variable or tag and then a query using the
saved pk to append a "new" record that is a duplicate of the saved one
except for the pk ...that would get you a dupe of every form field including
any subform.

William Hindman
ipsedixitism: something is true because I myself have said it is true ...the
philosophy of Noam Chomsky :)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brock, Christian T, HRC-Alexandria"

To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"

Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:22 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?


> Why go to the trouble? From the statement of intent, What the user really
> wants is a duplicate current record button, instead of a new record
button.
> The Access XP command button wizard will allow you to create a button that
> will duplicate the current record.
>
> It creates the following lines of code
> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 8, , acMenuVer70
> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 2, , acMenuVer70
> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 5, , acMenuVer70 'Paste Append
>
> Obviously MS did not update the wizard to use readable code. The
following
> will work as well.
> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSelectRecord
> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCopy
> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdPasteAppend
>
>
> Christian Brock
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
> Sent: Thursday, 01 April 2004 09:36
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data?
>
>
> Hi Tina
>
> > I begin to understand. At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event
> > Procedure will set the DefaultValue of each TextBox to the values
> > determined to already be stored in the record just saved. Is that
> > correct?
>
> Yes and no. No saving needs to take place:
>
> At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event Procedure will set the
> DefaultValue of each TextBox (or ComboBox etc.) to the values for the
> current record of those controls.
>
> > Does this require explicitly listing each TextBox of the form?
>
> Yes.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> >>>How does one set the DefautlValue at OnCurrent? I don't know how to do
> >>>that.
> >>
> >>That's not difficult - something like this:
> >>
> >> Dim txt As TextBox
> >> Set txt = Me!txtYourTextBox
> >>
> >> txt.DefaultValue = txt.Value
> >>
> >> Set txt = Nothing
> >>
> >>However, DefaultValue should be a string which means that if your
> >>textbox contains decimals or a date/time value you must be careful and
> >>convert to a string in US format:
> >>
> >> txt.DefaultValue = LTrim(Str(txt.Value))
> >>
> >>or
> >>
> >> txt.DefaultValue = _
> >> Format(txt.Value, "\#mm\/dd\/yyyy hh\:nn\:ss AM/PM\#")
> >>
> >>/gustav
> >>
> >>>>Tough day? No coffee?
> >>>>
> >>>>Set the DefaultValue at OnCurrent.
> >>>>
> >>>>As for Stuart's note on the KeyPreview, it's not a user feature, but a
> >>>>property of the form.
> >>>>
> >>>>/gustav
> >>>>
> >>>>>when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data
of
> the current record to be displayed in the new record.
> >>>>>So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA and
> then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear with
> the field username filled with AAA.
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Apr  2 16:43:21 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 17:43:21 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data ?
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPCEEGHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPCEEHHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

uhh... or Gilda Radner on Saturday Night Live?

;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 4:59 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data ?


As Lilly Tomlin used to say on Laugh-In

Oh.  Never mind!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 8:55 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data ?


John (and others)

I didn't mean to offend anybody but I think i'm in a different line of work.
Where doing maintenance on EXISTING apps. We don't build them ourselves (we
also do that but not for this customer)

Frameworks are GREAT! I'm playing around with you're examples a lot and I
love it. But it's (almost) impossible to implement these in existing apps
without rebuilding them from scratch. Extra problem here is that everything
is on a very tight budget.

Anyways, thnx for the reply.

Regards,

Sander

"John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
Sander,

>Some are more complex then others and in some cases (way) too heavy, how's
that sledgehammer John ;-) but they all help!

While I can appreciate personal opinion I have to ask how putting reusable
code into a framework is (way) too heavy?

In the beginning was assembler, and all was right. But there was no
structure and it took forever to write code, so higher level languages were
designed with functions and dimensioned variables. Of course there were
those who scoffed at the overhead, and how slow it ran, but in general it
was accepted as a good thing and was taught in schools and used by many
programmers. But there were still many problems that remained and concepts
such as objects, and classes and inheritance were designed. Of course there
were those who scoffed at the overhead, and how slow it ran, but in general
it was accepted as a good thing, and was taught in school and used by many
programmers.

Re-use, encapsulation, and all that stuff is (now) widely accepted practice.
Whether or not you personally like these practices is only relevant to you
(and the cost to your client of course).

Have you ever heard of Steve Gibson of Spin Right fame? He does all his
programming in assembler! Hmm... ok. For his purposes that is apparently
just right, but it doesn't mean I want to do that.

A framework is nothing more or less that reusability / encapsulation taken
to the next level. It isn't like I invented the concept - ever heard of
.NET? Can you say FRAMEWORK?.

When you "attack" using a framework you are simply demonstrating a
preference for a way of doing things that may be better for your purposes
but definitely is NOT better for my purposes, nor I suspect, for many other
people.

>how's that sledgehammer John

Just fine thanks.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:54 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data ?


Hihi here we go again. Everybody uses a different approach and they all
work!
Some are more complex then others and in some cases (way) too heavy, how's
that sledgehammer John ;-) but they all help!

thnx a lot.

Now all i have to do is do a LOT of documenting and then it's of to find
myself a weddingsuit!

regards,

sander

"Brock, Christian T, HRC-Alexandria"
wrote:
The copy record and paste append commands will get every form field and
subform. Do not see how what you say to do provides any benefit over using
the three DoCmd.RunCommand statements.

Christian Brock



-----Original Message-----
From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, 01 April 2004 10:49
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?


...that "wizard" simply bites ...I'd create a "duplicate" button that saves
the pk of the current record to a variable or tag and then a query using the
saved pk to append a "new" record that is a duplicate of the saved one
except for the pk ...that would get you a dupe of every form field including
any subform.

William Hindman
ipsedixitism: something is true because I myself have said it is true ...the
philosophy of Noam Chomsky :)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brock, Christian T, HRC-Alexandria"

To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"

Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:22 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered data?


> Why go to the trouble? From the statement of intent, What the user really
> wants is a duplicate current record button, instead of a new record
button.
> The Access XP command button wizard will allow you to create a button that
> will duplicate the current record.
>
> It creates the following lines of code
> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 8, , acMenuVer70
> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 2, , acMenuVer70
> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 5, , acMenuVer70 'Paste Append
>
> Obviously MS did not update the wizard to use readable code. The
following
> will work as well.
> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSelectRecord
> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCopy
> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdPasteAppend
>
>
> Christian Brock
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
> Sent: Thursday, 01 April 2004 09:36
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add new record + fill fields with last entered
data?
>
>
> Hi Tina
>
> > I begin to understand. At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event
> > Procedure will set the DefaultValue of each TextBox to the values
> > determined to already be stored in the record just saved. Is that
> > correct?
>
> Yes and no. No saving needs to take place:
>
> At the OnCurrent Event for the Form, the Event Procedure will set the
> DefaultValue of each TextBox (or ComboBox etc.) to the values for the
> current record of those controls.
>
> > Does this require explicitly listing each TextBox of the form?
>
> Yes.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> >>>How does one set the DefautlValue at OnCurrent? I don't know how to do
> >>>that.
> >>
> >>That's not difficult - something like this:
> >>
> >> Dim txt As TextBox
> >> Set txt = Me!txtYourTextBox
> >>
> >> txt.DefaultValue = txt.Value
> >>
> >> Set txt = Nothing
> >>
> >>However, DefaultValue should be a string which means that if your
> >>textbox contains decimals or a date/time value you must be careful and
> >>convert to a string in US format:
> >>
> >> txt.DefaultValue = LTrim(Str(txt.Value))
> >>
> >>or
> >>
> >> txt.DefaultValue = _
> >> Format(txt.Value, "\#mm\/dd\/yyyy hh\:nn\:ss AM/PM\#")
> >>
> >>/gustav
> >>
> >>>>Tough day? No coffee?
> >>>>
> >>>>Set the DefaultValue at OnCurrent.
> >>>>
> >>>>As for Stuart's note on the KeyPreview, it's not a user feature, but a
> >>>>property of the form.
> >>>>
> >>>>/gustav
> >>>>
> >>>>>when a user clicks the 'Add new record' button (s)he wants the data
of
> the current record to be displayed in the new record.
> >>>>>So if a user is on record 999 with field username filled with AAA and
> then clicks on 'Add new record' then a new record (1000) must appear with
> the field username filled with AAA.
>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Apr  2 16:57:14 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 08:57:14 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG
In-Reply-To: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227A6B@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <406E7C6A.9761.F97A3@localhost>

On 2 Apr 2004 at 9:45, DWUTKA at marlow.com wrote:

> Because Format() returns a string, 

To be strictly correct, Format() returns a variant of type String.
Format$() returns a string.

Most of the string manipulation functions have two varieties , with 
and without a trailing "$".  Leaving the "$" off returns a variant 
with the additional overhead and potential problems of using that 
data type.  It's a good idea use the specific version wherever 
possible.







 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Apr  2 17:03:28 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 09:03:28 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Vertical Lines in a Report
In-Reply-To: <406D7764.000003.72847@jedel>
Message-ID: <406E7DE0.9331.15506B@localhost>

On 2 Apr 2004 at 23:53, Dean Ellis wrote:

> Everyone,
>  
> Thanks for your replies to this post.
>  
> Dazza,  The code you gave me works and I did a similar thing to start with,
> the problem i'm having is the height of the line isn't changing with the
> Growth of the Memo boxes that are between the two horizontal lines. and
> because of this, I get a big gap between the bottom line and the bottom of
> the vertical line.
>  
> The othe rtwo sets of code that were posted worked as well, but they only
> gave me the hieght of the line, but it was always the full height of the
> detail section of the report. I want to specify the top position to join the
> ned of a horizontal line and make the bottom end of the vertical line
> postion relative to the size of the text boxes set at "Can Grow" so that the
> vertical lines will alway join top and bottom.
>  

The bottom horizontal line will be moved by the memo box above it 
growing, so just set the height of the verticle line to the distance 
between the horizontal lines.

lneLeftVertical.Height = lneBottomHorizontal.Top - 
lneTopHorizontal.Top


 
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Apr  2 17:07:42 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 17:07:42 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227A6E@main2.marlow.com>

Good point.

Drew

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Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 4:57 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG


On 2 Apr 2004 at 9:45, DWUTKA at marlow.com wrote:

> Because Format() returns a string, 

To be strictly correct, Format() returns a variant of type String.
Format$() returns a string.

Most of the string manipulation functions have two varieties , with 
and without a trailing "$".  Leaving the "$" off returns a variant 
with the additional overhead and potential problems of using that 
data type.  It's a good idea use the specific version wherever 
possible.







 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Apr  2 19:40:51 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 17:40:51 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Portugal
In-Reply-To: <3812436152.20040402122255@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLICEGLCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Gustav:

Try again in August....?

Jim

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Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 2:23 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Portugal


Hi all

I'll be visiting Portugal next week.

Would any listers be present in the Lisboa area to meet for a glass of
port?

/gustav

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From kathryn at bassett.net  Sat Apr  3 00:39:59 2004
From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 22:39:59 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] "See ya" in a few days
In-Reply-To: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIAEFLCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <200404030640.i336e2jk051635@mxsf20.cluster1.charter.net>

 Nope, I was fully backed up, data-wise. The problem is the amount of time
it takes to re-load all the programs I have to load and set the various
configurations the way I had them. I've updated to Office 2003, and opened a
few of my .mdb's with no problem, so guess that works ok. I'm getting used
to the new Outlook, but was looking forward to it. Having a problem with
synchronizing BeyondContacts though - it tells me "Synchronization was
skipped because the profile you selected to synchronize with in HotSync
Custom is different from the one that Outlook is opened to.  Please select
the profile you wish to synchronize with in Hotsync Custom and either close
Outlook, or open it in the profile you have selected." Will probably have to
wait til Monday to call them and find out how to fix this.

Got my genealogy program running. Bought a cordless keyboard - love that!
(Remember, I use my laptop like a desktop - external everything). Since my
new laptop (Sony PCG-GRT300Z http://shop1.outpost.com/product/3939768) has
an 80gig hd, I bought a new external that size too, so I can do full
backups. That's what saved my but when the other one crashed. I use a
program called SecondCopy and run that every night when I'm finished for the
eve (and play FreeCell while it's backing up).

Haven't got Dreamweaver up yet, so behind on my webmastering. That's next.

Tomorrow, I'm taking a break. We are going with some other local Hams on a
"road trip" to see the poppy fields
(http://www.calparksmojave.com/poppy/index.html).

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> Jim Lawrence (AccessD)
> Sent: 01 Apr 2004 7:49 am
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] "See ya" in a few days
> 
> Hi Kathryn:
> 
> Hope you have not lost anything important, that you can not 
> recover from somewhere.
> 
> Good luck
> Jim



From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Apr  3 04:40:34 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 12:40:34 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG
In-Reply-To: <406E7C6A.9761.F97A3@localhost>
References: <406E7C6A.9761.F97A3@localhost>
Message-ID: <423777461.20040403124034@cactus.dk>

Hi Stuart

I never understood the difference. Contrary to what you tell, I've
learned as well, and the on-line help (A97) tells, both return VarType
vbString (8). 
How could one ever tell a difference between 8 and 8?

This could be a subject for Susan:

  Why always use ..$() when possible, when nearly no one does ...

/gustav


> To be strictly correct, Format() returns a variant of type String.
> Format$() returns a string.

> Most of the string manipulation functions have two varieties , with 
> and without a trailing "$".  Leaving the "$" off returns a variant 
> with the additional overhead and potential problems of using that 
> data type.  It's a good idea use the specific version wherever 
> possible.



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Apr  3 05:38:40 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 06:38:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG
In-Reply-To: <423777461.20040403124034@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPKEEIHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Gustav,

The differences center around the fact that the result is returned as a
variant if you don't use the $.  The obvious differences are:

1) Specified datatypes are faster.  Variants supposedly carry a penalty
since they have to be "interpreted" to figure out what they are.
2) A Variant can be coerced without warning into another datatype.  This may
be exactly what you want and then it's ok.

For example if the string holds a date, and you try to return the $ function
into a variable dimensioned as date, it will complain and you will know that
is happening.  If you return the function without the $ it will just be
coerced into a date and you will never know.

Again, you may indeed be aware that the string is a date and WANT it
coerced, but if your intention is to keep it in string format and
inadvertently dim the destination as a date instead of a string, then one
function will immediately make you aware of your error.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 5:41 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG


Hi Stuart

I never understood the difference. Contrary to what you tell, I've
learned as well, and the on-line help (A97) tells, both return VarType
vbString (8).
How could one ever tell a difference between 8 and 8?

This could be a subject for Susan:

  Why always use ..$() when possible, when nearly no one does ...

/gustav


> To be strictly correct, Format() returns a variant of type String.
> Format$() returns a string.

> Most of the string manipulation functions have two varieties , with
> and without a trailing "$".  Leaving the "$" off returns a variant
> with the additional overhead and potential problems of using that
> data type.  It's a good idea use the specific version wherever
> possible.

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Apr  3 06:59:21 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 22:59:21 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG
In-Reply-To: <423777461.20040403124034@cactus.dk>
References: <406E7C6A.9761.F97A3@localhost>
Message-ID: <406F41C9.8160.31290B7@localhost>

On 3 Apr 2004 at 12:40, Gustav Brock wrote:

> Hi Stuart
> 
> I never understood the difference. Contrary to what you tell, I've
> learned as well, and the on-line help (A97) tells, both return VarType
> vbString (8). 
> How could one ever tell a difference between 8 and 8?
> 
> This could be a subject for Susan:
> 
>   Why always use ..$() when possible, when nearly no one does ...
> 
1. Because it's more efficient. 
    a.  it uses less storage for the variable
    b.   it avoids the overhead of interpreting the type every time
         it is referenced

2. It prevents accidental type conversion when you don't intend it. 
Variant "coercion" can introduce subtle bugs into your code which are 
difficult to isolate.






 
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Apr  3 07:53:34 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 15:53:34 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG
In-Reply-To: <423777461.20040403124034@cactus.dk>
References: <406E7C6A.9761.F97A3@localhost>
	<423777461.20040403124034@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <17115358223.20040403155334@cactus.dk>

Hi John and Stuart

Yes, I know about type declarations and variables - I only use Variant
when Null is an acceptable "value". 

But that was not my question ...

  Dim strVar As String

Now, 1. or 2.:

  1. strVar = Str(1234)
  2. strVar = Str$(1234)

Both Str() and Str$() cannot return anything but a string - the only
difference I can find is that Str$() returns a string while Str()
should return a variant with the undertype String.

But why would I care? Isn't a string a string?
Speed could be a concern. But testing with a loop with 2 mio.
iterations doesn't show any difference between Str() and Str$().

So do we see ghosts here? Why would I go on typing unneeded $ signs?

/gustav


> I never understood the difference. Contrary to what you tell, I've
> learned as well, and the on-line help (A97) tells, both return VarType
> vbString (8). 
> How could one ever tell a difference between 8 and 8?

> This could be a subject for Susan:

>   Why always use ..$() when possible, when nearly no one does ...

> /gustav


>> To be strictly correct, Format() returns a variant of type String.
>> Format$() returns a string.

>> Most of the string manipulation functions have two varieties , with 
>> and without a trailing "$".  Leaving the "$" off returns a variant 
>> with the additional overhead and potential problems of using that 
>> data type.  It's a good idea use the specific version wherever 
>> possible.



From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Sat Apr  3 11:50:24 2004
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 11:50:24 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] AllowEdits on Subform
Message-ID: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D504@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>

How do you prevent/allow Edits on a subform? 

I have a command button that is used to Edit a record. The form does not
allow edits without using the Edit Record button. The problem is that the
subform still allows edits without using the Edit Record button.

Virginia


From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Sat Apr  3 13:53:29 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 20:53:29 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] AllowEdits on Subform
In-Reply-To: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D504@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <007d01c419b5$5614b870$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

A subform has its own AllowEdits property Virginia. You can control it with
the following code:

Me!subControl.Form.AllowEdits = True/False

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> Subject: [AccessD] AllowEdits on Subform
> 
> 
> How do you prevent/allow Edits on a subform? 
> 
> I have a command button that is used to Edit a record. The 
> form does not allow edits without using the Edit Record 
> button. The problem is that the subform still allows edits 
> without using the Edit Record button.
> 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Apr  4 15:02:40 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2004 16:02:40 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: good book
Message-ID: <20040404200300.ZMYZ1763.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

http://www.codertodeveloper.com/
 
====No personal affiliation -- just a good reference. 
 
Susan H. 


From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Sun Apr  4 18:07:33 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 09:07:33 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K Increase Year by 1
Message-ID: <00c801c41a99$9ce617a0$48619a89@DDICK>

Hello all
Brain fade here
It's Monday morning and everything is just as you would expect a Monday to be <sigh>
I have a dB that holds dates of Occurrences
I have a  need to increase the 'year' portion only of that date by 1
eg 31/01/2001 now needs to become 31/01/2002
There are hundreds of 'em though so doing it manually isn't an option.
I just need a quick query to update 'em all. I actually have done this is the past 
(on the same dB actually) but can't recall how I did it <sigh>

Many thanks in advance

Darren



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Apr  4 18:19:24 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2004 19:19:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K Increase Year by 1
In-Reply-To: <00c801c41a99$9ce617a0$48619a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <MAEGKIDGFPDDHGNCGPGAIEPHCBAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

DateAdd

JWC

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Subject: [AccessD] A2K Increase Year by 1


Hello all
Brain fade here
It's Monday morning and everything is just as you would expect a Monday to
be <sigh>
I have a dB that holds dates of Occurrences
I have a  need to increase the 'year' portion only of that date by 1
eg 31/01/2001 now needs to become 31/01/2002
There are hundreds of 'em though so doing it manually isn't an option.
I just need a quick query to update 'em all. I actually have done this is
the past
(on the same dB actually) but can't recall how I did it <sigh>

Many thanks in advance

Darren

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From demulling at centurytel.net  Sun Apr  4 18:24:41 2004
From: demulling at centurytel.net (Demulling Family)
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2004 18:24:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K Increase Year by 1
In-Reply-To: <00c801c41a99$9ce617a0$48619a89@DDICK>
References: <00c801c41a99$9ce617a0$48619a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <40709939.5060402@centurytel.net>

Darren DICK wrote:

>Hello all
>Brain fade here
>It's Monday morning and everything is just as you would expect a Monday to be <sigh>
>I have a dB that holds dates of Occurrences
>I have a  need to increase the 'year' portion only of that date by 1
>eg 31/01/2001 now needs to become 31/01/2002
>There are hundreds of 'em though so doing it manually isn't an option.
>I just need a quick query to update 'em all. I actually have done this is the past 
>(on the same dB actually) but can't recall how I did it <sigh>
>
>Many thanks in advance
>
>Darren
>
>  
>
DateAdd("yyyy",1,<<your date>>)



From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Sun Apr  4 19:05:07 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 10:05:07 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K Increase Year by 1
References: <MAEGKIDGFPDDHGNCGPGAIEPHCBAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <019301c41aa1$a7b80b90$48619a89@DDICK>

Excellent
Thanks John


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Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 9:19 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K Increase Year by 1


> DateAdd
> 
> JWC
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren DICK
> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 7:08 PM
> To: AccessD List
> Subject: [AccessD] A2K Increase Year by 1
> 
> 
> Hello all
> Brain fade here
> It's Monday morning and everything is just as you would expect a Monday to
> be <sigh>
> I have a dB that holds dates of Occurrences
> I have a  need to increase the 'year' portion only of that date by 1
> eg 31/01/2001 now needs to become 31/01/2002
> There are hundreds of 'em though so doing it manually isn't an option.
> I just need a quick query to update 'em all. I actually have done this is
> the past
> (on the same dB actually) but can't recall how I did it <sigh>
> 
> Many thanks in advance
> 
> Darren
> 
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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Sun Apr  4 19:08:18 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 10:08:18 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
Message-ID: <019901c41aa2$199277f0$48619a89@DDICK>

   Hello all

 I have a simple subform with 4 fields on it
ID (PK),  txtDateOfOccurence, cboClientName, cboOffence

How can I tell if the user goes to a new record and they have not completed ALL fields in the previous record
How do I alert them and then direct them back to the previous record?

many thanks

Darren






From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Sun Apr  4 19:25:35 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2004 20:25:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
In-Reply-To: <019901c41aa2$199277f0$48619a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <40706F3F.16231.9E7B12@localhost>

On 5 Apr 2004 at 10:08, Darren DICK wrote:

>  I have a simple subform with 4 fields on it
> ID (PK),  txtDateOfOccurence, cboClientName, cboOffence
> 
> How can I tell if the user goes to a new record and they have not
> completed ALL fields in the previous record How do I alert them and
> then direct them back to the previous record?

Use the before update event of the form. Check to make sure they 
entered a vale and if not set Cancel = true in the event. That should 
prevent the record from being saved and keep the sub form on the 
"unfinished" record

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
The trouble with doing something right the first time is that nobody 
appreciates how difficult it is.




From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Sun Apr  4 19:37:36 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 10:37:36 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K Increase Year by 1
References: <00c801c41a99$9ce617a0$48619a89@DDICK>
	<40709939.5060402@centurytel.net>
Message-ID: <01b401c41aa6$31734df0$48619a89@DDICK>

That was it 
Thanks Demulling Family



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Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K Increase Year by 1


> Darren DICK wrote:
> 
> >Hello all
> >Brain fade here
> >It's Monday morning and everything is just as you would expect a Monday to be <sigh>
> >I have a dB that holds dates of Occurrences
> >I have a  need to increase the 'year' portion only of that date by 1
> >eg 31/01/2001 now needs to become 31/01/2002
> >There are hundreds of 'em though so doing it manually isn't an option.
> >I just need a quick query to update 'em all. I actually have done this is the past 
> >(on the same dB actually) but can't recall how I did it <sigh>
> >
> >Many thanks in advance
> >
> >Darren
> >
> >  
> >
> DateAdd("yyyy",1,<<your date>>)
> 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Apr  4 20:30:37 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2004 21:30:37 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Framework Discussion - Moving to a library
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPGEEMHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Framework ? Moving to a Library
For the purposes of this lecture, the framework is approaching a useable
state.  We now have:
?	A framework class that initializes the framework service classes.
?	SysVars that can be used to modify program flow and turn on / off
behaviors or modify how behaviors work.
?	A form class that has a functioning control scanner finding specific
control types and loading class instances for these controls.
?	Control classes that are loaded by the form?s control scanner.
?	A troubleshooting class that logs (or can log) all classes loading and
unloading to assist troubleshooting unloading problems.
?	Service classes such as Zip which can be loaded as the application
requires.

>From this point forward, the lectures will concentrate on how to add
functionality to the framework, adding in more service classes, more control
classes, and adding behaviors to the form and control classes as we run
across useful things that we want available to all of our applications.

However a framework is not very useful if it has to be inside the
Application FE.  What we need to do next is create the typical FE/BE system
and reference the framework as a library in an MDA / MDB.  This presents a
few challenges, but it also allows us to easily ?exchange? the library for a
new version without damaging the application?s data.

The process of moving our demo framework to a FE/BE is reasonably easy.  All
we do is:
?	Create an FE and export the forms / queries / reports to that, leaving all
the classes here in the original container.
?	Create a BE and export the tables to that.
?	Link the FE to the tables in the BE
?	Change the name of the framework to an MDA extension
?	Reference the framework library from the FE.
?	Delete the forms / queries / reports / tables from the framework library.
?	Expose dclsFrm

The library is Referenced by selecting from the menu while in any module,
Tools / References, click Browse and navigate to the directory where the
copy of the library is stored, then selecting it.

Having done these things we are ready to use the framework as a referenced
lib.

There is a small downside to working this way, namely the requirement to
relink the tables as you get the demos.  I have moved the entire directory
from my normal development drive to the c: drive, c:\ C2DbFW3G so that if
you place it there the table links will always work when you get the latest
version.
Using a class factory
One process required when moving to a library is to make the classes that
you need to reference from inside the FE can be found by your code.  There
are at least two ways to do this.  The simplest is to build a wrapper class
inside the library that looks something like this:

Public function cFrm() as dclsFrm
	Set cfrm = new dclsFrm
End function

This is a class factory that gets a new instance of that class and returns a
pointer to it.  This method works well and like most things has pluses and
minuses to it.  The plus is that you don?t have to expose the class itself
which we shall see in a minute is a little more work.  The minus is that
there is no intellisense available, and when we are dealing with classes,
that is a pretty big minus.
Exposing a class directly
Another way to do this is to expose the class directly using an undocumented
feature in Access.  In order to do this we need to export the class module
to a text file, edit the text file, delete the original class module in the
library, and import the modified class text file back into the library.
Export the class
To export a class to a text file we need to:
?	Go to the database window.
?	Click the modules tab
?	Click on a class module to select it
?	Click File / Export
?	A File Find dialog box will open.  Navigate to the directory for this
project.
?	Create a Classes directory if none exists already, then navigate to that
directory
?	Select save as type: Text files in the bottom combo of the File Find
dialog
?	Add a .txt to the file name
?	Click the Save button.

Next we need to edit the text file in Wordpad.
?	Using Windows Explorer, navigate to the file we just created.  If you
followed the instructions above it should be in a class subdirectory under
the project directory for this framework.
?	Open the file just exported

The top of the file should look similar to:

VERSION 1.0 CLASS
BEGIN
  MultiUse = -1  'True
END
Attribute VB_Name = "clsFramework"
Attribute VB_GlobalNameSpace = False
Attribute VB_Creatable = False
Attribute VB_PredeclaredId = True
Attribute VB_Exposed = False
Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

?	We can then remove the VERSION line and the BEGIN/END section plus the two
Option lines so that all that remains (of that section) is:

Attribute VB_Name = "clsFramework"
Attribute VB_GlobalNameSpace = False
Attribute VB_Creatable = False
Attribute VB_PredeclaredId = True
Attribute VB_Exposed = False

?	Next we need to edit this section, specifically we need to change
VB_Creatable to True, and VB_Exposed to True

Attribute VB_Name = "clsFramework"
Attribute VB_GlobalNameSpace = False
Attribute VB_Creatable = True
Attribute VB_PredeclaredId = True
Attribute VB_Exposed = True

?	Save the file and exit Wordpad.  At this point the class is edited and
ready to import back into the library.
?	In the library, delete the class that we are working on.
?	Now from the menu Click Insert / Class module, then Insert / File.  Use
the file find dialog to navigate to the directory where the class txt file
is located and select that file.  The contents will load into the empty
class module we just created.
?	On the menu click Debug/Compile just to check that everything is working
properly.  If not fix the compile errors.  There should be no errors but if
you failed to edit the header of the class in the text file you could get
some stuff up there (like duplicate Option statements).
?	Once it compiles, on the menu click File / Save.  It will ask if you want
to save the class and will offer you a name.  Just click yes.

You have finished the process of making a class ?visible? from outside of
the library.

Standard Disclaimer: This is an ?undocumented? procedure which means that
Microsoft may at any moment pull some stunt that makes this not work.
However this method works from Access97 up through AccessXP and probably
A2003 (I haven?t personally tested that last).
Using a library
Using a library is more complex than having all of your code inside the FE,
however the pluses far outweigh the minuses.  Some issues in no particular
order:
?	When you are running code in the library ?from? a FE, you can edit the
code in the library but those edits are not permanent.  The library is ?read
only? and you are just making changes to the code loaded in memory (more or
less).
?	A result of the above is that in order to make changes permanent you must
work in a completely different copy than the one referenced by the project.
In other words, even if you were to open the library from another instance
of Access, any attempt to make edits will cause Access to inform you that
the changes will not be saved.
?	In fact, if I remember correctly, this is not true for A97, it could
indeed make changes to the lib from another instance of Access and make them
stick, but from A2K onwards you cannot do that.  Thus you need to always
have a ?referenced? library and a ?working? library in different
directories.  The ?referenced? library is of course referenced by the
application and in use when the App is open.  The ?working? library is the
copy that you modify with changes that you wish to become permanent.

?	Libraries can be shared, i.e. multiple users can reference the lib.
However it is more often the case that (in a multi-user environment) we will
download both the FE and the BE to a local directory on the user?s hard
drive.

This brings up another issue, if the reference is ?broken?, i.e. the library
cannot be found in the location that the reference says it should be, then
Access will automatically search a ?path? in an attempt to find the file.  I
can?t find information about the exact file path at the moment but I know
that Access will search the Windows directory, System32 and the current
application directory, I believe in that order.  This means that you can
drop your framework in any of those locations and even if the application
has the reference to some other place, the lib will be found and the broken
reference will be fixed automatically.

If the referenced library is not found, then a ?broken reference? will be
visible in the Reference wizard and you will need to fix it manually.

?	You also have to initialize the framework before initializing anything
else so that the framework is up and running by the time the application and
its forms try and use it.  In addition the framework has to be unloaded when
the application closes.  It is possible for objects loaded by the framework
to prevent Access closing so we have to have a failsafe method of unloading
every time.

I do this by loading a form usysfrmFWCleanup in the framework?s Init()
function and calls the framework?s Term() function from its Close event.
This form resides in the framework library.  Since Access cannot close
without closing all forms, regardless of how it occurs the application
closing will close this form which cleans up the framework.  Because closing
this form unloads the framework, I also call Application.Quit
acQuitSaveNone.  Users are not supposed to be closing this form (or even
seeing it).  If the form is closed for any reason, the application will not
function correctly so I just close the Application.  Ordinarily this form
closes because the application is already closing, but if it is closed
accidentally, the application will be closed as well.

These are some of the issues that must be considered when using a library.
However the alternative of placing all such code directly in the FE causes
immense maintenance issues if you have more than one project.  A library is
used precisely because a fix to a single library and a redistribution of
that library will fix a bug or problem for every project that uses that lib.
Likewise adding a behavior to a lib will provide that behavior automatically
to every project that uses the library.
Sysvars
Using SysVars in a framework / Library is probably not familiar to most
developers so I will take a few moments to discuss how we implement
framework overrides.  As we have seen in past lectures, the SysVars are used
to turn on/off or otherwise modify behaviors that the framework makes
available to the developer / application.  In order to really be useful
however we have to be able to change the default behaviors from inside of
the application.

The way we do this is to copy the framework SysVar table into the FE.  We
will leave a copy of those SysVars that we want this specific application to
be able to override.  Now, by setting the SysVars to whatever state we
desire for this Application and merging in the SysVar table in the
application, we can perform the Override.  I have done this in the demo for
this lecture.

I have also added two more SysVar systems to the Framework, one for the
Application control (code) and the other for the Application Data.  These
two SysVars are so common that I just include them right in the framework so
that all the developer has to do is run the Init method and start using
them.  The Application?s control SysVar table is usually embedded in the FE
so that the SysVars controlling the Application travel with the FE
container.  The Application?s data SysVar table is generally placed in the
BE so that things like Company information etc. do not get corrupted when a
new Framework or FE is distributed.

The additional code for consist of two additional variables in the framework
class? header:

Private mclsSVAppCont As clsSysVars
Private mclsSVAppData As clsSysVars


Then in the framework?s Initialize we SET these variables:

    Set mclsSVAppCont = New clsSysVars
    Set mclsSVAppData = New clsSysVars

We add a new set of functions to initialize the framework instance, return a
pointer to the class instance and return a SysVar from each Instance.

One set for the Application Control:

'
'Initialize the SysVars for the Application Control
'
Public Function SVAPPContInit(strTblName As String)
    mclsSVAppCont.Init Nothing, gcnn, strTblName
End Function
'
'Get a pointer to the Application Control SV class instance
'
Public Function cSVAppCont() As clsSysVars
    Set cSVAppCont = mclsSVAppCont
End Function
'
'Return SysVars from the Application Control SysVar class
'
Public Function SVAppCont(strSVName As String) As Variant
    SVAppCont = mclsSVAppCont.SV(strSVName)
End Function

And one set for the Application Data:

'
'Initialize the SysVars for the Application Data
'
Public Function SVAPPDataInit(strTblName As String)
    mclsSVAppData.Init Nothing, gcnn, strTblName
End Function
'
'Get a pointer to the Application Data SV class instance
'
Public Function cSVAppData() As clsSysVars
    Set cSVAppData = mclsSVAppData
End Function
'
'Return SysVars from the Application Data SysVar class
'
Public Function SVAppData(strSVName As String) As Variant
    SVAppData = mclsSVAppData.SV(strSVName)
End Function

I have exposed the SysVars class so that you can easily instantiate your own
SysVars if you need more than the Application Control and Application Data
SysVars provided by the framework.

In order to demonstrate using these two SysVar sets, I have created a label
in the switchboard that displays a version number in the format YYYY.MM.DD.
The visible property of this label is set to false.  In the FE I created the
table usystblAppCont where I set a DisplayVersion SysVar = True.  In the
application?s init() I called the SVAPPDataInit method of the framework:

Function AppInit()
    If Not blnAppInitialized Then
        'initialize the framework
        fwinit
        blnAppInitialized = True
        fw.SVAPPContInit "usystblAppCont"
        fw.SVAPPDataInit "usystblAppData"
	End If
End Function

This has the effect of loading all the SysVars in usystblAppCont (there?s
only one at the moment).  Then in the switchboard?s Open event I set
lblVersion.Visible to the value in the SysVar table.

Private Sub Form_Open(Cancel As Integer)
' Minimize the database window and initialize the form.

    AppInit
    ' Move to the switchboard page that is marked as the default.
    Me.Filter = "[ItemNumber] = 0 AND [Argument] = 'Default' "
    Me.FilterOn = True
    lblVersion.Visible = fw.SVAppCont("DisplayVersion")
    txtDeveloper = fw.SVAppData("Developer") & vbCrLf &
fw.SVAppData("DevEmail")
End Sub

Since I have the DisplayVersion set to True in the table, the label will be
visible.  This demonstrates the usage of SysVars to control Application
behaviors.

Likewise I added a table to the BE called usystblAppData and linked that
into the FE.  In that table I added two SysVars, Developer and DevEMail.  I
then created a txtDeveloper text box on the switchboard that displays this
information. Notice that this one pulls its data from fw.SVAppData.  Now as
the switchboard opens it pulls these developer SysVars out of the BE.

Perhaps Developer data wasn?t the best thing to use for Application data but
I didn?t particularly want to put my TaxID in there.  As you can see the end
user of the system can load their data into this table and have it displayed
in the switchboard, report footers etc.

SysVars can be used for many purposes, but the Framework control,
Application control and Application data are so common that I just include
these three SysVar tables right in the framework for immediate use.
Modifications
The modifications required when we move to an FE consist of building an
AppInit() and calling it from somewhere.

Private blnAppInitialized As Boolean
Function AppInit()
    If Not blnAppInitialized Then
        'initialize the framework
        fwinit
        blnAppInitialized = True
    End If
End Function

Notice that we set a Boolean so that if the function is called multiple
times it will only execute once.  You can then place any code that you need
to initialize in this function as well.  To run this code the options are an
Autoexec macro or a splash screen or switchboard.  To keep things simple I
just built a very simple switchboard and then call this function from the
Open of that switchboard.

Private Sub Form_Open(Cancel As Integer)
    AppInit
End Sub

We then open usysFrmFWCleanup from the FWInit()

'
'The init function for the framework
'
Public Function FWInit()
    If mblnFWInitialized = False Then '

        mblnFWInitialized = True
        DoCmd.OpenForm "usysFrmFWCleanup", , , , , acHidden
        Set mfwcnn = CodeProject.Connection
        Set mcnn = CurrentProject.Connection
        Randomize
        Set mclsInstanceStack = New clsInstanceStack
        mclsInstanceStack.Init Nothing
        Set mclsFramework = New clsFramework
        mclsFramework.Init Nothing
    End If
End Function

I built a simple form called usysFrmFWCleanup with code in that form?s Close
event which cleans up and forces the app closed if that form is closed.

Private Sub Form_Close()
    FWTerm
    On Error Resume Next
    Application.Quit acQuitSaveNone
End Sub

Opening the switchboard calls APPInit() which calls FWInit() which
initializes the framework and loads usysFrmFWCleanup.  Closing the app in
any manner forces usysFrmFWCleanup to close.  usysFrmFWCleanup closing calls
FWTerm() cleaning up the framework and forcing Access to close if it wasn?t
already..
Summary
In order to be useful the framework has to be split off into a library.
Doing this causes a handful of issues that you have to be aware of.  We may
need to expose classes using the method shown above ? I have already exposed
dclsFrm so that the forms would work correctly.  It also requires setting up
init and cleanup code so that the framework is shutdown reliably as the app
closes.

Additionally we need to add a new pair of SysVar instances for the developer
to use for control of the Application and data for the Application.

>From this point forward, the lectures will focus on adding functionality to
the framework, generally to the form class or control class or both in order
to implement some behavior that the developer has found useful, has found or
developed code for, and now wishes to make available to all his projects by
moving that behavior to the framework.

In order to use the library we need to take the steps to break out the FE /
BE and library modules into separate containers.  I have outlined the
process in the top of this document and have actually performed this process
and provided a set of three mdb containers ? the FE/BE and Library.

I do not intend to leave the demo broken into the three pieces however; I
only did so to demonstrate the process and what goes where.  For the
purposes of writing a demo and allowing me and the readers following this
lecture series to easily work with the demos it is much more helpful in a
single file.  I don?t want to lose any readers because they can?t deal yet
with the nitty gritty of actually doing development in three parts, getting
references working, getting table links fixed etc.  Therefore this document
and associated files actually consist of the three MDBs but the next
document will have them merged back into a single file.  The framework is
ready however, and can be split out again at a moment?s notice.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com




From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Sun Apr  4 20:28:42 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 11:28:42 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
References: <40706F3F.16231.9E7B12@localhost>
Message-ID: <01c501c41aad$5502fca0$48619a89@DDICK>

Hi Bryan
I did that no joy eg.

Private Sub Form_BeforeUpdate(Cancel As Integer)

If IsNull(Me.cmbOffence) Or Me.cmbOffence = "" Then
    MsgBox "Enter an offence"
    Cancel = True
End If

End Sub

What I need to do is somehow test if the user is on a new fresh record or has left th previous record with unfilled combos. Of
course I can do it on the lost and got focus event.Thats fine whilst I am in the record
EG record 5 has no offence recorded
User goes to record 6 How do i alert the user that record 5 has a missing value then go back to that record?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at sympatico.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problemsolving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record


> On 5 Apr 2004 at 10:08, Darren DICK wrote:
>
> >  I have a simple subform with 4 fields on it
> > ID (PK),  txtDateOfOccurence, cboClientName, cboOffence
> >
> > How can I tell if the user goes to a new record and they have not
> > completed ALL fields in the previous record How do I alert them and
> > then direct them back to the previous record?
>
> Use the before update event of the form. Check to make sure they
> entered a vale and if not set Cancel = true in the event. That should
> prevent the record from being saved and keep the sub form on the
> "unfinished" record
>
> -- 
> Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
> The trouble with doing something right the first time is that nobody
> appreciates how difficult it is.
>
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Apr  4 20:31:46 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2004 21:31:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Framework Discussion - Moving to a library
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPKEEMHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

As always, the demo is up on my site and can be downloaded from there with
the email in .DOC format.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com




From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Sun Apr  4 21:26:50 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 12:26:50 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
Message-ID: <01eb01c41ab5$744b2120$48619a89@DDICK>

Hello all
In relation to stopping a person moving to another record before the previous one is complete...
I put some validation rules on the table. Now it's working fine.....almost

Does anyone know the err number Access throws up when table level validation is not met?
If anyone does know, how do I trap it at form level and throw up my own message box?

Many thanks

Darren



From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Mon Apr  5 02:43:21 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 00:43:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG
In-Reply-To: <4425303804.20040402155722@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20040405074321.14087.qmail@web61106.mail.yahoo.com>

The bug was that users used diff regional settings (dutch and US) and with short dates that resulted in problems 6-1-2003 is in Holland 6 january, in US its june first....
 
I set the format property for all date fields to dd-mmm-yyyy
 
Sander


Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
Hi Sander

Well - but what is the bug and how did you solve it?

/gustav


> Hi gustav,

> I've solved the problem. Twas a nasty one.
> but euh try it if you want. create a table with a date field like below and run the query...no go!

> Thanx anyway.

> Sander


> Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi Sander

> Your "stupid" test is correct as it sorts DESC on a string.

> Try this which I think is what Bert-Jan has in mind:

> SELECT DISTINCT
> Format([TblArbo].[Datum], "dd-mmm-yyyy")
> FROM
> TblArbo
> ORDER BY
> [TblArbo].[Datum] DESC;

> /gustav


>> I've got a combobox based on a query:
>> SELECT DISTINCT [TblArbo].[Datum]
>> FROM TblArbo
>> ORDER BY [TblArbo].[Datum] DESC;
>> Resulted in:
>> 01-10-2003
>> 02-09-2003
>> 21-08-2001

>> The user asked if this could be printed in the following format: dd-mmm-yyyy
>> No problem, says stupid me:
>> SELECT DISTINCT Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy")
>> FROM TblArbo
>> ORDER BY Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy") DESC;

>> But now the ORDER BY ONLY checks the DD part?!?!?!?!
>> So this results in:
>> 21-08-2001

>> 02-09-2003
>> 01-10-2003
>> ?!!??! What kind of nonsense is this?

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From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Mon Apr  5 06:25:23 2004
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2004 06:25:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] AllowEdits on Subform
Message-ID: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D505@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>

Another one - what about Undo? I used
Forms!frm_Vendor.frm_ContactsSub.Form.Undo but it does not undo the entry on
the subform.

Also, where you have Me!subControl - that is not the name of the form is it?
Is it each control on the form? This is a tabbed form I placed the subform
on one of the tabs.

Virginia


-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk]
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 1:53 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] AllowEdits on Subform


A subform has its own AllowEdits property Virginia. You can control it with
the following code:

Me!subControl.Form.AllowEdits = True/False

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Hollis,Virginia
> Sent: 03 April 2004 18:50
> To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
> Subject: [AccessD] AllowEdits on Subform
> 
> 
> How do you prevent/allow Edits on a subform? 
> 
> I have a command button that is used to Edit a record. The 
> form does not allow edits without using the Edit Record 
> button. The problem is that the subform still allows edits 
> without using the Edit Record button.
> 
> Virginia
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Mon Apr  5 10:00:39 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 11:00:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP - Can't create MDE.
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30806650@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB3D8@ADGSERVER>

Hey all,

I have an app that has been compiling to an MDE fine for several months now.
All of a sudden, it will not create an MDE.

The app will compile, but when I go to create an MDE (it is in XP format),
it asks where I want the output file to go, then sometimes I'll see the
progress bar flash to 100%, then it does one of two things.  It will either
sit there forever (I have left it for 2 hours before) while still using
80-90% CPU utilization, or it will crash Access XP.  Usually it just appears
to lock up.  Note that a normal compile takes maybe 1 minute.

I am pretty sure that I have not installed any new software or anything.

My coworker is able to pull form VSS and compile the app with no problems.

I am running on Windows 2000 Pro, .5G Ram, 700Mhz P-III.

Anyone have any ideas as to what may going wrong?

Thanks,
Bobby



From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Mon Apr  5 10:16:15 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 11:16:15 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP - Can't create MDE.
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30807079@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB3DA@ADGSERVER>

Further info:

I just tried again and it crashed this time.  Here is the Error signature
for the information that would be sent to MS.

AppName: msaccess.exe	 AppVer: 10.0.4302.0	 ModName: mso.dll
ModVer: 10.0.4219.0	 Offset: 00009777

Thanks,
Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP - Can't create MDE.


Hey all,

I have an app that has been compiling to an MDE fine for several months now.
All of a sudden, it will not create an MDE.

The app will compile, but when I go to create an MDE (it is in XP format),
it asks where I want the output file to go, then sometimes I'll see the
progress bar flash to 100%, then it does one of two things.  It will either
sit there forever (I have left it for 2 hours before) while still using
80-90% CPU utilization, or it will crash Access XP.  Usually it just appears
to lock up.  Note that a normal compile takes maybe 1 minute.

I am pretty sure that I have not installed any new software or anything.

My coworker is able to pull form VSS and compile the app with no problems.

I am running on Windows 2000 Pro, .5G Ram, 700Mhz P-III.

Anyone have any ideas as to what may going wrong?

Thanks,
Bobby

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From serbach at new.rr.com  Mon Apr  5 10:33:19 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 10:33:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file
Message-ID: <20040405103319.1451643778.serbach@new.rr.com>

Dear Group,

I have an Access 2000 FE/BE application loaded on a client's system in another city 90 miles away. I've been working with their network guy over the phone and he's sent me screen shots of error messages along the way. Here's the situation.

The "master" MDB FE database is loaded on the server. I have the local people there create an MDE and place it in another folder so that's it's available for the users who download it to their workstations when a new version is ready. While working with my client's network guy, Bob, the MDE file SEEMS to be created all right; but once the compacting is finished and the FE starts up, the first form opens and he gets this message (it's an "i" message):

The expression On Load you entered as the event property setting produced the following error: Error accessing file. Network connection may have been lost.

  * The expression may not result in the name of a macro, the name of a user-defined function, or [Event Procedure].
  * There may have been an error evaluating the function, event, or macro.

When he clicks OK the startup form (which is supposed to be hidden) is there on the screen and the application has halted.

INVESTIGATION:

1) They don't have the Documentor installed so I can't see what the path is to the BE.

2) However, I do have a form (that I cobbed from Steve Nyberg) that shows all the links with their paths. When we attempt to open this form we get the message you see above. Click OK on the message and Nyberg's SeeLinks form opens but with nothing showing up regarding linked tables.

3) I can open the linked tables from the "master" front end. But when I open the table that contains the latest version number (part of the version upgrade system) I see something odd. This Versions table has one row. The table has a Default value of the Now() function in the VersionDate column. On my system when I look at the table I see the first row all right and in the 2nd (empty) row I see (AutoNumber) in the key field and today's date and time in the VersionDate column. On my client's system he sees #Name? in the VersionDate column in an empty row. He cannot add information in a new row because Access doesn't like the default value. So I had Bob remove the default value. I still get the main problem.

4) The users can still run the application from their workstations using the old version of the FE. There hasn't been any problem there.

5) The Startup form of the FE calls Carl Tribble's Auto-Linker to check the link status of the first table before the main switchboard menu appears. This is all working properly on the users' workstations.

6) I tried Compact and Repair on both the BE and the FE. No change in basic error.

7) I checked the references. They're all there.

8) Only thing I haven't done (at least that I know how to do) is a /decompile on the "master" FE on the server.

I'm sorry about the length of this message. I somehow doubt that I would find the problem even if I were sitting at the workstation. Bob is very capable, so I'm sure he's relaying to me everything that he sees.

At least my clients can still work with the older version of the app. I am just stumped why this error message appears in the "master" front end database. Any thoughts, other than "Well, why the heck do you let the user make an MDE in the first place, ya numbskull?!"

Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Apr  5 10:59:28 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 08:59:28 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP - Can't create MDE.
References: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB3DA@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <007601c41b26$fa334df0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Bobby:

I would try making the mde on a different machine to see if the problem is
related to the mdb or to the installation of access on the machine where
it's currently failing.

I would also try the broad spectrum anti-biotic approach - decompile the
mdb.  Then compact, compile, and see if it will make the mde.

HTH

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bobby Heid" <bheid at appdevgrp.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 8:16 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access XP - Can't create MDE.


> Further info:
>
> I just tried again and it crashed this time.  Here is the Error signature
> for the information that would be sent to MS.
>
> AppName: msaccess.exe AppVer: 10.0.4302.0 ModName: mso.dll
> ModVer: 10.0.4219.0 Offset: 00009777
>
> Thanks,
> Bobby
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:01 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Access XP - Can't create MDE.
>
>
> Hey all,
>
> I have an app that has been compiling to an MDE fine for several months
now.
> All of a sudden, it will not create an MDE.
>
> The app will compile, but when I go to create an MDE (it is in XP format),
> it asks where I want the output file to go, then sometimes I'll see the
> progress bar flash to 100%, then it does one of two things.  It will
either
> sit there forever (I have left it for 2 hours before) while still using
> 80-90% CPU utilization, or it will crash Access XP.  Usually it just
appears
> to lock up.  Note that a normal compile takes maybe 1 minute.
>
> I am pretty sure that I have not installed any new software or anything.
>
> My coworker is able to pull form VSS and compile the app with no problems.
>
> I am running on Windows 2000 Pro, .5G Ram, 700Mhz P-III.
>
> Anyone have any ideas as to what may going wrong?
>
> Thanks,
> Bobby
>
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From tuannj1810 at yahoo.com  Mon Apr  5 11:13:45 2004
From: tuannj1810 at yahoo.com (tuan nguyen)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 09:13:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] MULTI ENTRY to database
Message-ID: <20040405161345.12567.qmail@web60104.mail.yahoo.com>

I am creating a customer database.  the idea is that more than 2 
people can come in the file and update the record.  however, whenever 
there are more than 2 people on the file, there is a message something 
like "you dont have exclusive access to the file, yr work might not be 
saved"...(i set "shared" in tools/ options/advanced/ ) some times, other can not log on if i am on the file.  then i have to get out before other can get in.  
is there anyway to solve this?

if i want each person input there initial when the log on the file 
and want to have the file tells me who update the file last, is it 
possilbe.  can it tell the time it was updated?   
 
generally, does access work well with multi entry -  many people working on same file, doing updates...?

tks for help.

tuan nguyen

maersk inc, 
madison, nj




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From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Mon Apr  5 11:32:28 2004
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2004 11:32:28 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Duplicate Posts
Message-ID: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D51E@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>

I am receiving duplicate posts today...

Virginia


From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Mon Apr  5 11:51:25 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 17:51:25 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] AllowEdits on Subform
In-Reply-To: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D505@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <000001c41b2e$3b940b20$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Hi Virginia
subControl refers to the name on the main form that you've given to the
subform control (think Access defaults to Childnnn, but you'd want to change
that to something meaningful). The tab doesn't affect it.

Not so sure you can do Undo in the same way. The problem (I think, but open
to correction) is that, having put data onto a subform, if you click away
from the subform to the main form (i.e. to your Undo button on the main
form) Access carries out a Save of the subform data. And once the save has
occurred you can't Undo. Undo is only available BeforeUpdate. What I'd
suggest is that you place the Undo button in the header of the subform
rather than on the main form. It can then just do a Me.Undo and should work
ok as focus won't have moved off the sub.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Hollis,Virginia
> Sent: 05 April 2004 12:25
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] AllowEdits on Subform
> 
> 
> Another one - what about Undo? I used 
> Forms!frm_Vendor.frm_ContactsSub.Form.Undo but it does not 
> undo the entry on the subform.
> 
> Also, where you have Me!subControl - that is not the name of 
> the form is it? Is it each control on the form? This is a 
> tabbed form I placed the subform on one of the tabs.
> 
> Virginia
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk]
> Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 1:53 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] AllowEdits on Subform
> 
> 
> A subform has its own AllowEdits property Virginia. You can 
> control it with the following code:
> 
> Me!subControl.Form.AllowEdits = True/False
> 
> -- Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> > Hollis,Virginia
> > Sent: 03 April 2004 18:50
> > To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
> > Subject: [AccessD] AllowEdits on Subform
> > 
> > 
> > How do you prevent/allow Edits on a subform?
> > 
> > I have a command button that is used to Edit a record. The
> > form does not allow edits without using the Edit Record 
> > button. The problem is that the subform still allows edits 
> > without using the Edit Record button.
> > 
> > Virginia
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Mon Apr  5 12:15:58 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 18:15:58 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
In-Reply-To: <01eb01c41ab5$744b2120$48619a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <000201c41b31$a9e1c6f0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Hiya Darren, how're ya doing?

Use the form's OnError event for this. If you first of all stick in there a:

MsgBox DataErr

That'll give you the error number. You can then test for that and do
whatever your heart desires.

See you when we emigrate :-)

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren DICK
> Sent: 05 April 2004 03:27
> To: AccessD List
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
> 
> 
> Hello all
> In relation to stopping a person moving to another record 
> before the previous one is complete... I put some validation 
> rules on the table. Now it's working fine.....almost
> 
> Does anyone know the err number Access throws up when table 
> level validation is not met? If anyone does know, how do I 
> trap it at form level and throw up my own message box?
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Darren
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Mon Apr  5 13:06:11 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 14:06:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP - Can't create MDE. SOLVED
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30807087@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB3DE@ADGSERVER>

Hi all,

A lister named Ryan e-mailed me off-line with a suggestion that was almost
correct.  He suggested that I change a module, save, restart, change it
back, save, compact & repair, then create the MDE.

Unfortunately, that did not do the trick.  So I went looking in the MS KB
and found KB article 
814858 - ACC: Access May Stop Responding When You Try to Create an MDE File
or an ADE File
http://tinyurl.com/2ryvk
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;814858&Product=acc20
02

Basically, it says that the compiled VBA project of the MDB was corrupt.  It
then says to use the /DECOMPILE switch to decompile the project.  I did
this, then compiled, then compacted & repaired.  Voila!  I can now create an
MDE.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:16 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access XP - Can't create MDE.


Further info:

I just tried again and it crashed this time.  Here is the Error signature
for the information that would be sent to MS.

AppName: msaccess.exe	 AppVer: 10.0.4302.0	 ModName: mso.dll
ModVer: 10.0.4219.0	 Offset: 00009777

Thanks,
Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP - Can't create MDE.


Hey all,

I have an app that has been compiling to an MDE fine for several months now.
All of a sudden, it will not create an MDE.

The app will compile, but when I go to create an MDE (it is in XP format),
it asks where I want the output file to go, then sometimes I'll see the
progress bar flash to 100%, then it does one of two things.  It will either
sit there forever (I have left it for 2 hours before) while still using
80-90% CPU utilization, or it will crash Access XP.  Usually it just appears
to lock up.  Note that a normal compile takes maybe 1 minute.

I am pretty sure that I have not installed any new software or anything.

My coworker is able to pull form VSS and compile the app with no problems.

I am running on Windows 2000 Pro, .5G Ram, 700Mhz P-III.

Anyone have any ideas as to what may going wrong?

Thanks,
Bobby

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From pjones at btl.net  Mon Apr  5 10:55:20 2004
From: pjones at btl.net (Paul M. Jones)
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2004 09:55:20 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] AllowEdits on Subform
In-Reply-To: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D504@cntexchange.pgdp.
	usec.com>
References: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D504@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20040405095444.02fbc418@btlmail.btl.net>

I usually lock the entire subform to ensure that no editing can be done 
until I allow it.

At 11:50 AM 4/3/2004, you wrote:
>How do you prevent/allow Edits on a subform?
>
>I have a command button that is used to Edit a record. The form does not
>allow edits without using the Edit Record button. The problem is that the
>subform still allows edits without using the Edit Record button.
>
>Virginia
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Mon Apr  5 10:19:40 2004
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 11:19:40 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
Message-ID: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF407AD80D9@xlivmbx12.aig.com>

"no joy" - what did not work? It's totally routine to do this kind of thing
in the BeforeUpdate event (but what you might have missed is that you also
need to do it in the BeforeInsert event too - that way you can validate NEW
records as well as existing ones that get edited.)

No need to mess with table validation rules and trapping the error. Just do
your own validation in the above two events.

BTW here's a way to check for nulls and empty string in one step, and it's a
tad easier to read (IMHO).

Instead of ...

If IsNull(Me.cmbOffence) Or Me.cmbOffence = "" Then

use...

If cmbOffence & "" = "" Then


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Darren DICK [SMTP:d.dick at uws.edu.au]
> Sent:	Sunday, April 04, 2004 9:29 PM
> To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject:	Re: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
> 
> Hi Bryan
> I did that no joy eg.
> 
> Private Sub Form_BeforeUpdate(Cancel As Integer)
> 
> If IsNull(Me.cmbOffence) Or Me.cmbOffence = "" Then
>     MsgBox "Enter an offence"
>     Cancel = True
> End If
> 
> End Sub
> 
> What I need to do is somehow test if the user is on a new fresh record or
> has left th previous record with unfilled combos. Of
> course I can do it on the lost and got focus event.Thats fine whilst I am
> in the record
> EG record 5 has no offence recorded
> User goes to record 6 How do i alert the user that record 5 has a missing
> value then go back to that record?
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at sympatico.ca>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problemsolving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 10:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
> 
> 
> > On 5 Apr 2004 at 10:08, Darren DICK wrote:
> >
> > >  I have a simple subform with 4 fields on it
> > > ID (PK),  txtDateOfOccurence, cboClientName, cboOffence
> > >
> > > How can I tell if the user goes to a new record and they have not
> > > completed ALL fields in the previous record How do I alert them and
> > > then direct them back to the previous record?
> >
> > Use the before update event of the form. Check to make sure they
> > entered a vale and if not set Cancel = true in the event. That should
> > prevent the record from being saved and keep the sub form on the
> > "unfinished" record
> >
> > -- 
> > Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
> > The trouble with doing something right the first time is that nobody
> > appreciates how difficult it is.
> >
> >
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Apr  5 15:08:37 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 16:08:37 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
In-Reply-To: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF407AD80D9@xlivmbx12.aig.com>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPGEFDHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Lambert,

>If cmbOffence & "" = "" Then

This is the kind of thing that you should add an explanation of why it works
in your email.  Less experienced developers might not understand what is
going on.  Further the explanation of why it works would add to their
understanding of empty strings and nulls.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:20 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: 'd.dick at uws.edu.au'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record


"no joy" - what did not work? It's totally routine to do this kind of thing
in the BeforeUpdate event (but what you might have missed is that you also
need to do it in the BeforeInsert event too - that way you can validate NEW
records as well as existing ones that get edited.)

No need to mess with table validation rules and trapping the error. Just do
your own validation in the above two events.

BTW here's a way to check for nulls and empty string in one step, and it's a
tad easier to read (IMHO).

Instead of ...

If IsNull(Me.cmbOffence) Or Me.cmbOffence = "" Then

use...

If cmbOffence & "" = "" Then


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Darren DICK [SMTP:d.dick at uws.edu.au]
> Sent:	Sunday, April 04, 2004 9:29 PM
> To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject:	Re: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
>
> Hi Bryan
> I did that no joy eg.
>
> Private Sub Form_BeforeUpdate(Cancel As Integer)
>
> If IsNull(Me.cmbOffence) Or Me.cmbOffence = "" Then
>     MsgBox "Enter an offence"
>     Cancel = True
> End If
>
> End Sub
>
> What I need to do is somehow test if the user is on a new fresh record or
> has left th previous record with unfilled combos. Of
> course I can do it on the lost and got focus event.Thats fine whilst I am
> in the record
> EG record 5 has no offence recorded
> User goes to record 6 How do i alert the user that record 5 has a missing
> value then go back to that record?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at sympatico.ca>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problemsolving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 10:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
>
>
> > On 5 Apr 2004 at 10:08, Darren DICK wrote:
> >
> > >  I have a simple subform with 4 fields on it
> > > ID (PK),  txtDateOfOccurence, cboClientName, cboOffence
> > >
> > > How can I tell if the user goes to a new record and they have not
> > > completed ALL fields in the previous record How do I alert them and
> > > then direct them back to the previous record?
> >
> > Use the before update event of the form. Check to make sure they
> > entered a vale and if not set Cancel = true in the event. That should
> > prevent the record from being saved and keep the sub form on the
> > "unfinished" record
> >
> > --
> > Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
> > The trouble with doing something right the first time is that nobody
> > appreciates how difficult it is.
> >
> >
> > --
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From joconnell at indy.rr.com  Mon Apr  5 15:12:52 2004
From: joconnell at indy.rr.com (Joseph O'Connell)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 15:12:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] MULTI ENTRY to database
Message-ID: <00f501c41b4a$6b8318a0$6701a8c0@joe>

>From the database window go to Tools|Options.  Click on the Advanced tab.
Change the "Default open mode" from Exclusive to Shared.  Then click the
Apply button.

Joe O'Connell

-----Original Message-----
From: tuan nguyen <tuannj1810 at yahoo.com>
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Date: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:52 AM
Subject: [AccessD] MULTI ENTRY to database


|I am creating a customer database.  the idea is that more than 2
|people can come in the file and update the record.  however, whenever
|there are more than 2 people on the file, there is a message something
|like "you dont have exclusive access to the file, yr work might not be
|saved"...(i set "shared" in tools/ options/advanced/ ) some times, other
can not log on if i am on the file.  then i have to get out before other can
get in.
|is there anyway to solve this?
|
|if i want each person input there initial when the log on the file
|and want to have the file tells me who update the file last, is it
|possilbe.  can it tell the time it was updated?
|
|generally, does access work well with multi entry -  many people working on
same file, doing updates...?
|
|tks for help.
|
|tuan nguyen
|
|maersk inc,
|madison, nj
|
|
|
|
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Mon Apr  5 15:15:21 2004
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 16:15:21 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
Message-ID: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF407AD812F@xlivmbx12.aig.com>

Ok.

The '&' operator is one of the few operator which, when applied to a null
does *not* result in a null. When you append a string to null using '&' you
wind up with a string.

The test... 

If cmbOffence & "" = "" Then 

	...therefore is equivalent to saying "if this thing is null or it
it's an empty string then do something"

In fact, this is functionally equivalent...

If cboMyComboBox & "HasNothingSelected" = "HasNothingSelected" Then

HTH

Lambert


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	John W. Colby [SMTP:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
> Sent:	Monday, April 05, 2004 4:09 PM
> To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject:	RE: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
> 
> Lambert,
> 
> >If cmbOffence & "" = "" Then
> 
> This is the kind of thing that you should add an explanation of why it
> works
> in your email.  Less experienced developers might not understand what is
> going on.  Further the explanation of why it works would add to their
> understanding of empty strings and nulls.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Heenan,
> Lambert
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:20 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Cc: 'd.dick at uws.edu.au'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
> 
> 
> "no joy" - what did not work? It's totally routine to do this kind of
> thing
> in the BeforeUpdate event (but what you might have missed is that you also
> need to do it in the BeforeInsert event too - that way you can validate
> NEW
> records as well as existing ones that get edited.)
> 
> No need to mess with table validation rules and trapping the error. Just
> do
> your own validation in the above two events.
> 
> BTW here's a way to check for nulls and empty string in one step, and it's
> a
> tad easier to read (IMHO).
> 
> Instead of ...
> 
> If IsNull(Me.cmbOffence) Or Me.cmbOffence = "" Then
> 
> use...
> 
> If cmbOffence & "" = "" Then
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	Darren DICK [SMTP:d.dick at uws.edu.au]
> > Sent:	Sunday, April 04, 2004 9:29 PM
> > To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject:	Re: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
> >
> > Hi Bryan
> > I did that no joy eg.
> >
> > Private Sub Form_BeforeUpdate(Cancel As Integer)
> >
> > If IsNull(Me.cmbOffence) Or Me.cmbOffence = "" Then
> >     MsgBox "Enter an offence"
> >     Cancel = True
> > End If
> >
> > End Sub
> >
> > What I need to do is somehow test if the user is on a new fresh record
> or
> > has left th previous record with unfilled combos. Of
> > course I can do it on the lost and got focus event.Thats fine whilst I
> am
> > in the record
> > EG record 5 has no offence recorded
> > User goes to record 6 How do i alert the user that record 5 has a
> missing
> > value then go back to that record?
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at sympatico.ca>
> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problemsolving"
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 10:25 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
> >
> >
> > > On 5 Apr 2004 at 10:08, Darren DICK wrote:
> > >
> > > >  I have a simple subform with 4 fields on it
> > > > ID (PK),  txtDateOfOccurence, cboClientName, cboOffence
> > > >
> > > > How can I tell if the user goes to a new record and they have not
> > > > completed ALL fields in the previous record How do I alert them and
> > > > then direct them back to the previous record?
> > >
> > > Use the before update event of the form. Check to make sure they
> > > entered a vale and if not set Cancel = true in the event. That should
> > > prevent the record from being saved and keep the sub form on the
> > > "unfinished" record
> > >
> > > --
> > > Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
> > > The trouble with doing something right the first time is that nobody
> > > appreciates how difficult it is.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > > AccessD mailing list
> > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
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> >
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Apr  5 15:48:30 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2004 13:48:30 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file
References: <20040405103319.1451643778.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <4071C61E.9060802@shaw.ca>

Have a look at this, maybe a service pack issue. remember Office 2000 
SP3 plays around with Outlook security.

ACC2000: Error Message: Error Accessing File. Network Connection May 
Have Been Lost.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304548&Product=acc

Steven W. Erbach wrote:

>Dear Group,
>
>I have an Access 2000 FE/BE application loaded on a client's system in another city 90 miles away. I've been working with their network guy over the phone and he's sent me screen shots of error messages along the way. Here's the situation.
>
>The "master" MDB FE database is loaded on the server. I have the local people there create an MDE and place it in another folder so that's it's available for the users who download it to their workstations when a new version is ready. While working with my client's network guy, Bob, the MDE file SEEMS to be created all right; but once the compacting is finished and the FE starts up, the first form opens and he gets this message (it's an "i" message):
>
>The expression On Load you entered as the event property setting produced the following error: Error accessing file. Network connection may have been lost.
>
>  * The expression may not result in the name of a macro, the name of a user-defined function, or [Event Procedure].
>  * There may have been an error evaluating the function, event, or macro.
>
>When he clicks OK the startup form (which is supposed to be hidden) is there on the screen and the application has halted.
>
>INVESTIGATION:
>
>1) They don't have the Documentor installed so I can't see what the path is to the BE.
>
>2) However, I do have a form (that I cobbed from Steve Nyberg) that shows all the links with their paths. When we attempt to open this form we get the message you see above. Click OK on the message and Nyberg's SeeLinks form opens but with nothing showing up regarding linked tables.
>
>3) I can open the linked tables from the "master" front end. But when I open the table that contains the latest version number (part of the version upgrade system) I see something odd. This Versions table has one row. The table has a Default value of the Now() function in the VersionDate column. On my system when I look at the table I see the first row all right and in the 2nd (empty) row I see (AutoNumber) in the key field and today's date and time in the VersionDate column. On my client's system he sees #Name? in the VersionDate column in an empty row. He cannot add information in a new row because Access doesn't like the default value. So I had Bob remove the default value. I still get the main problem.
>
>4) The users can still run the application from their workstations using the old version of the FE. There hasn't been any problem there.
>
>5) The Startup form of the FE calls Carl Tribble's Auto-Linker to check the link status of the first table before the main switchboard menu appears. This is all working properly on the users' workstations.
>
>6) I tried Compact and Repair on both the BE and the FE. No change in basic error.
>
>7) I checked the references. They're all there.
>
>8) Only thing I haven't done (at least that I know how to do) is a /decompile on the "master" FE on the server.
>
>I'm sorry about the length of this message. I somehow doubt that I would find the problem even if I were sitting at the workstation. Bob is very capable, so I'm sure he's relaying to me everything that he sees.
>
>At least my clients can still work with the older version of the app. I am just stumped why this error message appears in the "master" front end database. Any thoughts, other than "Well, why the heck do you let the user make an MDE in the first place, ya numbskull?!"
>
>Regards,
> 
>Steve Erbach
>Scientific Marketing
>Neenah, WI
>920-969-0504
> 
>"Congress is as trustworthy with money as a crack addict who is experimenting with heroin." - Dave Barry
> 
>"Giving money and power to the government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys." - P. J. O'Rourke
> 
>"Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for." - Will Rogers
> 
>"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly American criminal class except Congress." - Mark Twain
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Apr  5 16:42:56 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 14:42:56 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file
References: <20040405103319.1451643778.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <00ee01c41b56$f529a0e0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Steven:

This looks familiar.  Google the phrase "Network connection may have been
lost".  Sorry can't do more right now.

HTH

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven W. Erbach" <serbach at new.rr.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 8:33 AM
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file


> Dear Group,
>
> I have an Access 2000 FE/BE application loaded on a client's system in
another city 90 miles away. I've been working with their network guy over
the phone and he's sent me screen shots of error messages along the way.
Here's the situation.
>
> The "master" MDB FE database is loaded on the server. I have the local
people there create an MDE and place it in another folder so that's it's
available for the users who download it to their workstations when a new
version is ready. While working with my client's network guy, Bob, the MDE
file SEEMS to be created all right; but once the compacting is finished and
the FE starts up, the first form opens and he gets this message (it's an "i"
message):
>
> The expression On Load you entered as the event property setting produced
the following error: Error accessing file. Network connection may have been
lost.
>
>   * The expression may not result in the name of a macro, the name of a
user-defined function, or [Event Procedure].
>   * There may have been an error evaluating the function, event, or macro.
>
> When he clicks OK the startup form (which is supposed to be hidden) is
there on the screen and the application has halted.
>
> INVESTIGATION:
>
> 1) They don't have the Documentor installed so I can't see what the path
is to the BE.
>
> 2) However, I do have a form (that I cobbed from Steve Nyberg) that shows
all the links with their paths. When we attempt to open this form we get the
message you see above. Click OK on the message and Nyberg's SeeLinks form
opens but with nothing showing up regarding linked tables.
>
> 3) I can open the linked tables from the "master" front end. But when I
open the table that contains the latest version number (part of the version
upgrade system) I see something odd. This Versions table has one row. The
table has a Default value of the Now() function in the VersionDate column.
On my system when I look at the table I see the first row all right and in
the 2nd (empty) row I see (AutoNumber) in the key field and today's date and
time in the VersionDate column. On my client's system he sees #Name? in the
VersionDate column in an empty row. He cannot add information in a new row
because Access doesn't like the default value. So I had Bob remove the
default value. I still get the main problem.
>
> 4) The users can still run the application from their workstations using
the old version of the FE. There hasn't been any problem there.
>
> 5) The Startup form of the FE calls Carl Tribble's Auto-Linker to check
the link status of the first table before the main switchboard menu appears.
This is all working properly on the users' workstations.
>
> 6) I tried Compact and Repair on both the BE and the FE. No change in
basic error.
>
> 7) I checked the references. They're all there.
>
> 8) Only thing I haven't done (at least that I know how to do) is a
/decompile on the "master" FE on the server.
>
> I'm sorry about the length of this message. I somehow doubt that I would
find the problem even if I were sitting at the workstation. Bob is very
capable, so I'm sure he's relaying to me everything that he sees.
>
> At least my clients can still work with the older version of the app. I am
just stumped why this error message appears in the "master" front end
database. Any thoughts, other than "Well, why the heck do you let the user
make an MDE in the first place, ya numbskull?!"
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve Erbach
> Scientific Marketing
> Neenah, WI
> 920-969-0504
>
> "Congress is as trustworthy with money as a crack addict who is
experimenting with heroin." - Dave Barry
>
> "Giving money and power to the government is like giving whiskey and car
keys to teenage boys." - P. J. O'Rourke
>
> "Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for." -
Will Rogers
>
> "It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no
distinctly American criminal class except Congress." - Mark Twain
>
> -- 
> _______________________________________________
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Apr  5 16:51:00 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 07:51:00 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
In-Reply-To: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF407AD80D9@xlivmbx12.aig.com>
Message-ID: <40726164.28379.E4E0C@localhost>

On 5 Apr 2004 at 11:19, Heenan, Lambert wrote:

> > BTW here's a way to check for nulls and empty string in one step, and it's a
> tad easier to read (IMHO).
> 
> Instead of ...
> 
> If IsNull(Me.cmbOffence) Or Me.cmbOffence = "" Then
> 
> use...
> 
> If cmbOffence & "" = "" Then
> 

Or:

If NZ(cmbOffence,"") = "" Then

or even just NZ(cmbOffence) since "" is the default for NZ(string)



 
-- 
Lexacorp Ltd
http://www.lexacorp.com.pg
Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System 
Support.





From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Apr  5 16:57:10 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 14:57:10 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312709@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Take a look at
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q304548

This is a typical error when you do not have O2k SR-3 and you have a
2002 or later app installed on the same machine.  The VBE6.DLL for 2002
breaks the 2000 Access executable.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Steven W. Erbach [mailto:serbach at new.rr.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 7:33 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file


Dear Group,

I have an Access 2000 FE/BE application loaded on a client's system in
another city 90 miles away. I've been working with their network guy
over the phone and he's sent me screen shots of error messages along the
way. Here's the situation.

The "master" MDB FE database is loaded on the server. I have the local
people there create an MDE and place it in another folder so that's it's
available for the users who download it to their workstations when a new
version is ready. While working with my client's network guy, Bob, the
MDE file SEEMS to be created all right; but once the compacting is
finished and the FE starts up, the first form opens and he gets this
message (it's an "i" message):

The expression On Load you entered as the event property setting
produced the following error: Error accessing file. Network connection
may have been lost.

  * The expression may not result in the name of a macro, the name of a
user-defined function, or [Event Procedure].
  * There may have been an error evaluating the function, event, or
macro.

When he clicks OK the startup form (which is supposed to be hidden) is
there on the screen and the application has halted.

INVESTIGATION:

1) They don't have the Documentor installed so I can't see what the path
is to the BE.

2) However, I do have a form (that I cobbed from Steve Nyberg) that
shows all the links with their paths. When we attempt to open this form
we get the message you see above. Click OK on the message and Nyberg's
SeeLinks form opens but with nothing showing up regarding linked tables.

3) I can open the linked tables from the "master" front end. But when I
open the table that contains the latest version number (part of the
version upgrade system) I see something odd. This Versions table has one
row. The table has a Default value of the Now() function in the
VersionDate column. On my system when I look at the table I see the
first row all right and in the 2nd (empty) row I see (AutoNumber) in the
key field and today's date and time in the VersionDate column. On my
client's system he sees #Name? in the VersionDate column in an empty
row. He cannot add information in a new row because Access doesn't like
the default value. So I had Bob remove the default value. I still get
the main problem.

4) The users can still run the application from their workstations using
the old version of the FE. There hasn't been any problem there.

5) The Startup form of the FE calls Carl Tribble's Auto-Linker to check
the link status of the first table before the main switchboard menu
appears. This is all working properly on the users' workstations.

6) I tried Compact and Repair on both the BE and the FE. No change in
basic error.

7) I checked the references. They're all there.

8) Only thing I haven't done (at least that I know how to do) is a
/decompile on the "master" FE on the server.

I'm sorry about the length of this message. I somehow doubt that I would
find the problem even if I were sitting at the workstation. Bob is very
capable, so I'm sure he's relaying to me everything that he sees.

At least my clients can still work with the older version of the app. I
am just stumped why this error message appears in the "master" front end
database. Any thoughts, other than "Well, why the heck do you let the
user make an MDE in the first place, ya numbskull?!"

Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504
 
"Congress is as trustworthy with money as a crack addict who is
experimenting with heroin." - Dave Barry
 
"Giving money and power to the government is like giving whiskey and car
keys to teenage boys." - P. J. O'Rourke
 
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From my.lists at verizon.net  Mon Apr  5 16:59:45 2004
From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia)
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2004 14:59:45 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Duplicate Posts
In-Reply-To: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D51E@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>
References: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D51E@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <4071D6D1.1000206@verizon.net>

Hollis,Virginia said the following on 4/5/2004 9:32 AM:

>I am receiving duplicate posts today...
>
>Virginia
>  
>
did anyone else reply to this?.. Is this a rule in your outlook possibly 
causing this??

-- 
-Francisco




From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Apr  5 17:35:14 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 17:35:14 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file
In-Reply-To: <7685353.1081201441608.JavaMail.root@sniper2.marix.com>
Message-ID: <003f01c41b5e$458ed1c0$de1811d8@DanWaters>

Steve,

I don't have an answer to your specific problem, but since your client is
distant this might help:

Have your client download a trial version of GoToMyPC.  He can set up an
account for himself.  GoToMyPC has a feature called 'Guest Invite'.  He can
use this to let you see what's happening on his screen, and you can control
his PC from yours so you can do some troubleshooting.  

I guess this is similar to WebEx or PCAnywhere.  If he decides to keep the
GoToMyPC account, he only needs to pay $15/mo.  I use it to work with my
clients so they can see 'drafts' of what I'm doing without making a trip.

Best of Luck!
Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steven W. Erbach
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 10:33 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file

Dear Group,

I have an Access 2000 FE/BE application loaded on a client's system in
another city 90 miles away. I've been working with their network guy over
the phone and he's sent me screen shots of error messages along the way.
Here's the situation.

The "master" MDB FE database is loaded on the server. I have the local
people there create an MDE and place it in another folder so that's it's
available for the users who download it to their workstations when a new
version is ready. While working with my client's network guy, Bob, the MDE
file SEEMS to be created all right; but once the compacting is finished and
the FE starts up, the first form opens and he gets this message (it's an "i"
message):

The expression On Load you entered as the event property setting produced
the following error: Error accessing file. Network connection may have been
lost.

  * The expression may not result in the name of a macro, the name of a
user-defined function, or [Event Procedure].
  * There may have been an error evaluating the function, event, or macro.

When he clicks OK the startup form (which is supposed to be hidden) is there
on the screen and the application has halted.

INVESTIGATION:

1) They don't have the Documentor installed so I can't see what the path is
to the BE.

2) However, I do have a form (that I cobbed from Steve Nyberg) that shows
all the links with their paths. When we attempt to open this form we get the
message you see above. Click OK on the message and Nyberg's SeeLinks form
opens but with nothing showing up regarding linked tables.

3) I can open the linked tables from the "master" front end. But when I open
the table that contains the latest version number (part of the version
upgrade system) I see something odd. This Versions table has one row. The
table has a Default value of the Now() function in the VersionDate column.
On my system when I look at the table I see the first row all right and in
the 2nd (empty) row I see (AutoNumber) in the key field and today's date and
time in the VersionDate column. On my client's system he sees #Name? in the
VersionDate column in an empty row. He cannot add information in a new row
because Access doesn't like the default value. So I had Bob remove the
default value. I still get the main problem.

4) The users can still run the application from their workstations using the
old version of the FE. There hasn't been any problem there.

5) The Startup form of the FE calls Carl Tribble's Auto-Linker to check the
link status of the first table before the main switchboard menu appears.
This is all working properly on the users' workstations.

6) I tried Compact and Repair on both the BE and the FE. No change in basic
error.

7) I checked the references. They're all there.

8) Only thing I haven't done (at least that I know how to do) is a
/decompile on the "master" FE on the server.

I'm sorry about the length of this message. I somehow doubt that I would
find the problem even if I were sitting at the workstation. Bob is very
capable, so I'm sure he's relaying to me everything that he sees.

At least my clients can still work with the older version of the app. I am
just stumped why this error message appears in the "master" front end
database. Any thoughts, other than "Well, why the heck do you let the user
make an MDE in the first place, ya numbskull?!"

Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504
 
"Congress is as trustworthy with money as a crack addict who is
experimenting with heroin." - Dave Barry
 
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keys to teenage boys." - P. J. O'Rourke
 
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Rogers
 
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From garykjos at hotmail.com  Mon Apr  5 17:43:56 2004
From: garykjos at hotmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2004 17:43:56 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] MULTI ENTRY to database
Message-ID: <BAY2-F539cnCOxHIMyS00032cd9@hotmail.com>

Hi Tuan,

It could be that your users do not have full file creation rights in the 
folder where the database is. The users need to have the rights to create a 
file so a LDB locking file can be created. With no licking file it allows 
ONE user but not a second.

Access works fine with multiple users lots and lots of apps around that do 
that. You will do well to investigate how to best make a database that works 
well for multiple users simultaneously though. Generally a split database 
with a front end and a back end will be the best way although there are 
exceptions and special circumstances when this may not be entirely correct 
either. A front end database contains everything in the database EXCEPT the 
data tables, and the back end contains ONLY the data tables. You create 
LINKS in the front end to point to the tables in teh back end.   If you 
search in help on Multi-user database you should find some info on this 
issue.

In order to log when people sign in to your database and keep track of what 
they update, you will need need to create some tables to store that info and 
some code to populate those tables that track that info. Nothing is 
available in Access by itself to track those changes, you have to do it 
yourself. You can certainly dd a field like "LAST_UPDATE" and then write a 
small bit of code in your form to update that field whenever there is a 
change to the record. Look at the Before Update event on a form and set the 
"LAST_UPDATE" field to NOW()

Gary Kjos
garykjos at hotmail.com





>From: tuan nguyen <tuannj1810 at yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] MULTI ENTRY to database
>Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 09:13:45 -0700 (PDT)
>
>I am creating a customer database.  the idea is that more than 2
>people can come in the file and update the record.  however, whenever
>there are more than 2 people on the file, there is a message something
>like "you dont have exclusive access to the file, yr work might not be
>saved"...(i set "shared" in tools/ options/advanced/ ) some times, other 
>can not log on if i am on the file.  then i have to get out before other 
>can get in.
>is there anyway to solve this?
>
>if i want each person input there initial when the log on the file
>and want to have the file tells me who update the file last, is it
>possilbe.  can it tell the time it was updated?
>
>generally, does access work well with multi entry -  many people working on 
>same file, doing updates...?
>
>tks for help.
>
>tuan nguyen
>
>maersk inc,
>madison, nj
>
>
>
>
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From jskolits at CorporateDataDesign.com  Mon Apr  5 21:43:57 2004
From: jskolits at CorporateDataDesign.com (John Skolits)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 22:43:57 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Duplicate Posts
In-Reply-To: <4071D6D1.1000206@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <000501c41b81$02591460$6701a8c0@OFFICEXP1>

I started getting them when I upgraded to Outlook XP. That's because you can
no longer disable emails accounts if you have multiple ones listed. They now
all have to be active. I hate it when they remove features!

John Skolits

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco H Tapia
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 6:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Duplicate Posts


Hollis,Virginia said the following on 4/5/2004 9:32 AM:

>I am receiving duplicate posts today...
>
>Virginia
>  
>
did anyone else reply to this?.. Is this a rule in your outlook possibly 
causing this??

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Mon Apr  5 22:18:28 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 20:18:28 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Code help please
Message-ID: <000001c41b85$d87c94a0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

This code is supposed to
1.       Confirm this is an existing record
2.       If the form is dirty 
 
Open a message box
 
I need vb yes. I want to go to the next record.
 
Can not find the right method
                        
 
Thanks  
 
Joe
 
 
 
Private Sub Form_Dirty(Cancel As Integer)
 
    if me.newrecord = false and
    If Me.Dirty Then
    Dim lngRetval As Long
 
    lngRetval = MsgBox( _
        "Data on this form has changed! " & vbCrLf & "" & vbCrLf & "Do
you wish to continue?", _
        vbYesNoCancel + vbQuestion + vbSystemModal + vbDefaultButton1, _
        "Data Has Changed")
 
    Select Case lngRetval
        Case vbYes
        
        Add New RECORD
            
        Case vbNo
         Forms!frmmasterAddresses!txtLastName.SetFocus
        
        
        
        Case vbCancel
        
           
            
    End Select
    
   End If
      
        
 
 
 
End Sub
 
 
 


From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Apr  5 23:28:31 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 14:28:31 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Code help please
References: <000001c41b85$d87c94a0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <016401c41b8f$9df9bec0$48619a89@DDICK>

Hi Joe
Try something like this
Under the 
Compare Database and option explicit declarations type
gIntFormIsDirty as integer
Then add

Private Sub Form_Load()
gIntFormIsDirty  = False
end sub

then add

Private Sub Form_Dirty(Cancel As Integer)
gIntFormIsDirty  = true
End Sub

then 

Private Sub ps_SomeCodeToRun()

'Joe get whatever the PK is and see if there is a value in it
    if not isnull(Me.MyPK) then 'There is  a value so we are on a live record
        if gIntFormIsDirty  = true THEN
            Msgbox "we are on a pre-existing record and the record is dirty"
        else
            Msgbox "we are on a pre-existing record but the record IS NOT  dirty"
        end if
    else
        msgbox "We are on a 'new rec' or at least one without a PK"
    end if

end sub

then in the afterupdate(or whatever) of the control to test

Private sub txtLastName_AfterUpdate()
ps_SomeCodeToRun
end sub

Hope this helps

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Hecht" <jmhla at earthlink.net>
To: "AccessD" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 1:18 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Code help please


> This code is supposed to
> 1.       Confirm this is an existing record
> 2.       If the form is dirty 
>  
> Open a message box
>  
> I need vb yes. I want to go to the next record.
>  
> Can not find the right method
>                         
>  
> Thanks  
>  
> Joe
>  
>  
>  
> Private Sub Form_Dirty(Cancel As Integer)
>  
>     if me.newrecord = false and
>     If Me.Dirty Then
>     Dim lngRetval As Long
>  
>     lngRetval = MsgBox( _
>         "Data on this form has changed! " & vbCrLf & "" & vbCrLf & "Do
> you wish to continue?", _
>         vbYesNoCancel + vbQuestion + vbSystemModal + vbDefaultButton1, _
>         "Data Has Changed")
>  
>     Select Case lngRetval
>         Case vbYes
>         
>         Add New RECORD
>             
>         Case vbNo
>          Forms!frmmasterAddresses!txtLastName.SetFocus
>         
>         
>         
>         Case vbCancel
>         
>            
>             
>     End Select
>     
>    End If
>       
>         
>  
>  
>  
> End Sub
>  
>  
>  
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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Apr  5 23:56:00 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 14:56:00 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Transfer Database
Message-ID: <018501c41b93$74e90ff0$48619a89@DDICK>

hello all
can anyone tell me why the acLink version of transfer database 
below works but the import version fails? Along with the error message 
"Cannot define Field more than once"
I have tried every combination I can think of in relation to the dbf file name location etc.
No joy and the help is useless

'This one works fine
DoCmd.TransferDatabase acLink, "dBase IV", "C:\", acTable, "C:\SIDS.dbf", "tblStudents", False
'This one fails
DoCmd.TransferDatabase acImport, "dBase IV", "C:\", acTable, "C:\SIDS.dbf", "tblStudents", False

many thanks

Drren



From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Tue Apr  6 03:42:01 2004
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Tue,  6 Apr 2004 10:42:01 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Transfer Database
Message-ID: <29010324.1081240921849.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001>

Darren,
try taking a look at the first ten characters of the DBase IV table fields you are trying to import (i.e. you may have something like StudentsID1 and StudentsID2 if you look at the first ten characters you will only have StudentsID) for some reason when trying to Export/Import DBase IV tables it only reads the first ten characters.  Make sure the first ten characters in your fields are different and then you should be ok.
Paul





Message date : Apr 06 2004, 06:01 AM
>From : "Darren DICK" 
To : "AccessD List" 
Copy to : 
Subject : [AccessD] A2K: Transfer Database
hello all
can anyone tell me why the acLink version of transfer database 
below works but the import version fails? Along with the error message 
"Cannot define Field more than once"
I have tried every combination I can think of in relation to the dbf file name location etc.
No joy and the help is useless

'This one works fine
DoCmd.TransferDatabase acLink, "dBase IV", "C:\", acTable, "C:\SIDS.dbf", "tblStudents", False
'This one fails
DoCmd.TransferDatabase acImport, "dBase IV", "C:\", acTable, "C:\SIDS.dbf", "tblStudents", False

many thanks

Drren

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From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Tue Apr  6 03:47:30 2004
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 09:47:30 +0100 
Subject: [AccessD] (no subject)
Message-ID: <F37DAC9A2964B144A2973EBCA8C54DBDABD3B7@BURY2K23.bury.gov.uk>

Hi Group

 

I am looking to rewrite a system (to a VB front end Access BE from Acc FE/Be
in Acc 97).  I still intend to use DAO - I am looking for advice on whether
to upgrade the Be to A2002 ( is this AXP? btw) or keep BE in Acc 97 .

 

TIA

 

Richard



From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Tue Apr  6 03:49:44 2004
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 09:49:44 +0100 
Subject: [AccessD] A97 or A2002 
Message-ID: <F37DAC9A2964B144A2973EBCA8C54DBD25DCB9@BURY2K23.bury.gov.uk>

Hi Group

 

I am looking to rewrite a system (to a VB front end Access BE from Acc FE/Be
in Acc 97).  I still intend to use DAO - I am looking for advice on whether
to upgrade the Be to A2002 ( is this AXP? btw) or keep BE in Acc 97 .

 

TIA

 

Richard

 



From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Apr  6 05:02:50 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 10:02:50 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Transfer Database
Message-ID: <20040406090248.69D1225E4A0@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

That was my first reaction Paul, then I wondered how that could be when
doing an import rather than an export. The fields on the dbf must already be
unique and a max of 10 chars, cos that's all the dbf would allow. Unless the
dbf is non-standard and was created using something other than the usual
packages. In which case you may be right. Certainly worth a look Darren.
Alternatively have you tried the other similar import types to dBase IV,
like 'dbase III', 'dbase 5.0' and all the Foxpro versions?

--
Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



--------- Original Message --------
From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Transfer Database
Date: 06/04/04 08:44

>
> Darren,
> try taking a look at the first ten characters of the DBase IV table fields
you are trying to import (i.e. you may have something like StudentsID1 and
StudentsID2 if you look at the first ten characters you will only have
StudentsID) for some reason when trying to Export/Import DBase IV tables it
only reads the first ten characters.  Make sure the first ten characters in
your fields are different and then you should be ok.
> Paul
>
>
>
>
>
> Message date : Apr 06 2004, 06:01 AM
> &gt;From : &quot;Darren DICK&quot;
> To : &quot;AccessD List&quot;
> Copy to :
> Subject : [AccessD] A2K: Transfer Database
> hello all
> can anyone tell me why the acLink version of transfer database
> below works but the import version fails? Along with the error message
> &quot;Cannot define Field more than once&quot;
> I have tried every combination I can think of in relation to the dbf file
name location etc.
> No joy and the help is useless
>
> 'This one works fine
> DoCmd.TransferDatabase acLink, &quot;dBase IV&quot;, &quot;C:&quot;,
acTable, &quot;C:SIDS.dbf&quot;, &quot;tblStudents&quot;, False
> 'This one fails
> DoCmd.TransferDatabase acImport, &quot;dBase IV&quot;, &quot;C:&quot;,
acTable, &quot;C:SIDS.dbf&quot;, &quot;tblStudents&quot;, False
>
> many thanks
>
> Drren
>
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From thevigil at kabelfoon.nl  Tue Apr  6 04:48:00 2004
From: thevigil at kabelfoon.nl (Bert-Jan Brinkhuis)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 11:48:00 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Search tool
Message-ID: <001101c41bbc$40bdd200$3f412d3e@jester>

Hi group,

does anyone know of a good search tool / addin or whatever. With which i
will be able to search in queryfields, querycriteris, formcontrols
recordsources etc. to find querynames, tablenames, tablefields, functions
etc.

I hope you understand what i am looking for.....

BTW i will use this in A2K.

Thanks.

Bert-Jan



From SDSSoftware at optusnet.com.au  Tue Apr  6 05:41:49 2004
From: SDSSoftware at optusnet.com.au (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 20:41:49 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Search tool
References: <001101c41bbc$40bdd200$3f412d3e@jester>
Message-ID: <000b01c41bc3$c449cc80$6401a8c0@user>

I can recommend Speed Ferret:

http://www.moshannon.com/speedferret.html

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bert-Jan Brinkhuis 
  To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 7:48 PM
  Subject: [AccessD] Search tool


  Hi group,

  does anyone know of a good search tool / addin or whatever. With which i
  will be able to search in queryfields, querycriteris, formcontrols
  recordsources etc. to find querynames, tablenames, tablefields, functions
  etc.

  I hope you understand what i am looking for.....

  BTW i will use this in A2K.

  Thanks.

  Bert-Jan

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From papparuff at comcast.net  Tue Apr  6 05:47:22 2004
From: papparuff at comcast.net (papparuff at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 10:47:22 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Search tool
Message-ID: <040620041047.29003.40728ABA000593790000714B2200734076FF99998A8D9E8F8F9E@comcast.net>


Speed Ferret is an excellent tool but I prefer Rick Fisher's Find And Replace.  It is about 2/3rds the cost of Speed Ferret and it has served me well for the past 5 years.

Check out http://www.rickworld.com


--
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?Commit to the Lord whatever you do,
    and your plans will succeed.? Proverbs 16:3 
> Hi group,
> 
> does anyone know of a good search tool / addin or whatever. With which i
> will be able to search in queryfields, querycriteris, formcontrols
> recordsources etc. to find querynames, tablenames, tablefields, functions
> etc.
> 
> I hope you understand what i am looking for.....
> 
> BTW i will use this in A2K.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Bert-Jan
> 
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From thevigil at kabelfoon.nl  Tue Apr  6 05:51:54 2004
From: thevigil at kabelfoon.nl (Bert-Jan Brinkhuis)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 12:51:54 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Search tool
References: <040620041047.29003.40728ABA000593790000714B2200734076FF99998A8D9E8F8F9E@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <002501c41bc5$32511b60$3f412d3e@jester>

Thanks John and Kath.

I'll try them both and see what is best for me.

Bert-Jan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <papparuff at comcast.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Search tool


>
> Speed Ferret is an excellent tool but I prefer Rick Fisher's Find And
Replace.  It is about 2/3rds the cost of Speed Ferret and it has served me
well for the past 5 years.
>
> Check out http://www.rickworld.com
>
>
> --
> John V. Ruff - The Eternal Optimist :-)
>
>
> "Commit to the Lord whatever you do,
>     and your plans will succeed." Proverbs 16:3
> > Hi group,
> >
> > does anyone know of a good search tool / addin or whatever. With which i
> > will be able to search in queryfields, querycriteris, formcontrols
> > recordsources etc. to find querynames, tablenames, tablefields,
functions
> > etc.
> >
> > I hope you understand what i am looking for.....
> >
> > BTW i will use this in A2K.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Bert-Jan
> >
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From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Tue Apr  6 06:00:24 2004
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 06:00:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Duplicate Posts
Message-ID: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D527@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>

No, it just started yesterday. I haven't changed any settings.

-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco H Tapia [mailto:my.lists at verizon.net]
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 5:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Duplicate Posts


Hollis,Virginia said the following on 4/5/2004 9:32 AM:

>I am receiving duplicate posts today...
>
>Virginia
>  
>
did anyone else reply to this?.. Is this a rule in your outlook possibly 
causing this??

-- 
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From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Tue Apr  6 06:18:42 2004
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 06:18:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Find Record from Combo
Message-ID: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D528@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>

I have a combo box that is used to GoTo a record. When I first open the
form, I have noticed that the list of choices in the combo box do not show
all the records to go to - it stops at record 9 and there are 57. I can't
scroll any further down the list either it only shows 9 records.

If I go to the last record and come back to record 1, then the combobox list
will show all 57 records. I even tried typing in 57 to go to the record, and
it says it is not in the list.

It is so strange, if I go to record 9 the list shows 9 records, I navigate
to record 10, the list shows 10 records, etc.

A2K.

Virginia

Used on the ComboBox.
Private Sub PickRequest_AfterUpdate()

 Dim strNumber As String
    ' Find the record that matches the control.
    strNumber = "[tbl_RequestMain].[RequestID] = " & Me![PickRequest]
    Me.RecordsetClone.FindFirst strNumber
    Me.Bookmark = Me.RecordsetClone.Bookmark

End Sub


From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Tue Apr  6 06:24:23 2004
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 06:24:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] RE: Find Record from Combo
Message-ID: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D529@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>

I noticed I can't recreate a new combobox either in the current database or
any database. I keep receiving the error: Syntax Error in Query Expression.

I am using the Wizard to create the combo & select option 3 - find a record
based on...

I do not know if this is a related problem with only showing 9 records or a
separate problem. The existing combobox that shows only the 9 records, I
used the code from a previous form.

Virginia

-----Original Message-----
From: Hollis,Virginia 
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 6:19 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Find Record from Combo


I have a combo box that is used to GoTo a record. When I first open the
form, I have noticed that the list of choices in the combo box do not show
all the records to go to - it stops at record 9 and there are 57. I can't
scroll any further down the list either it only shows 9 records.

If I go to the last record and come back to record 1, then the combobox list
will show all 57 records. I even tried typing in 57 to go to the record, and
it says it is not in the list.

It is so strange, if I go to record 9 the list shows 9 records, I navigate
to record 10, the list shows 10 records, etc.

A2K.

Virginia

Used on the ComboBox.
Private Sub PickRequest_AfterUpdate()

 Dim strNumber As String
    ' Find the record that matches the control.
    strNumber = "[tbl_RequestMain].[RequestID] = " & Me![PickRequest]
    Me.RecordsetClone.FindFirst strNumber
    Me.Bookmark = Me.RecordsetClone.Bookmark

End Sub


From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Tue Apr  6 06:47:36 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 07:47:36 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP - Can't create MDE.
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA3080713B@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB3E4@ADGSERVER>

That was it Rocky.

Thanks,
Bobby

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:59 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access XP - Can't create MDE.


Bobby:

I would try making the mde on a different machine to see if the problem is
related to the mdb or to the installation of access on the machine where
it's currently failing.

I would also try the broad spectrum anti-biotic approach - decompile the
mdb.  Then compact, compile, and see if it will make the mde.

HTH

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bobby Heid" <bheid at appdevgrp.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 8:16 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access XP - Can't create MDE.


> Further info:
>
> I just tried again and it crashed this time.  Here is the Error 
> signature for the information that would be sent to MS.
>
> AppName: msaccess.exe AppVer: 10.0.4302.0 ModName: mso.dll
> ModVer: 10.0.4219.0 Offset: 00009777
>
> Thanks,
> Bobby
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:01 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Access XP - Can't create MDE.
>
>
> Hey all,
>
> I have an app that has been compiling to an MDE fine for several 
> months
now.
> All of a sudden, it will not create an MDE.
>
> The app will compile, but when I go to create an MDE (it is in XP 
> format), it asks where I want the output file to go, then sometimes 
> I'll see the progress bar flash to 100%, then it does one of two 
> things.  It will
either
> sit there forever (I have left it for 2 hours before) while still 
> using 80-90% CPU utilization, or it will crash Access XP.  Usually it 
> just
appears
> to lock up.  Note that a normal compile takes maybe 1 minute.
>
> I am pretty sure that I have not installed any new software or 
> anything.
>
> My coworker is able to pull form VSS and compile the app with no 
> problems.
>
> I am running on Windows 2000 Pro, .5G Ram, 700Mhz P-III.
>
> Anyone have any ideas as to what may going wrong?
>
> Thanks,
> Bobby
>
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From serbach at new.rr.com  Tue Apr  6 07:05:56 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 07:05:56 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file
Message-ID: <20040406070556.283970375.serbach@new.rr.com>

Marty, Rocky, and Charlotte,

Thanks very much. I will certainly track down that KB304548.

Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504
 
"I think that the send button actually turns brains on." -- Bryan Carbonnell



From serbach at new.rr.com  Tue Apr  6 07:09:47 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 07:09:47 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file
Message-ID: <20040406070947.153567620.serbach@new.rr.com>

Dan,

>> GoToMyPC <<

I've been evaluating it myself these past few weeks. I, indeed, have suggested it to the appropriate people, but there may be some resistance. It's a domestic violence shelter and they're very chary of sending any data via the Internet for fear that it will be intercepted and fall into the hands of the abusers.

To help them with some of their custom report requests I offered to send them an Access routine to scramble the names, addresses, and phone numbers of every client in their files. They're thinking about it.

Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504
 
"If you can't say anything nice, run for President." - Argus Hamilton



From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca  Tue Apr  6 07:23:42 2004
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 08:23:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Duplicate Posts
Message-ID: <s072691e.043@cbc.ca>

Virginia,

Are you still getting duplicates today?

If you are, could you please forward both copies of the e-mails as
*attachments* so I can check out the internet headers and see if it is
DBAs server.

Please forward the copies to carbonnb at sympatico.ca or
listmaster at databaseadvisors.com

Bryan Carbonnell
bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca

>>> HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com 06-Apr-04 7:00:24 AM >>>
No, it just started yesterday. I haven't changed any settings.

-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco H Tapia [mailto:my.lists at verizon.net] 
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 5:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Duplicate Posts


Hollis,Virginia said the following on 4/5/2004 9:32 AM:

>I am receiving duplicate posts today...
>
>Virginia
>  



From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca  Tue Apr  6 07:45:49 2004
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 08:45:49 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file
Message-ID: <s0726e4d.060@cbc.ca>

Steve,

To aleviate their security concerns, you can use VNC over a Secure
Tunnel, if you don't mind piecing together a solution. It uses OpenSSL,
which is the defacto standard for Encryption on *nix these days. It's
the same encryption that most Secure web sites use.

You will need
OpenSSL(http://www.slproweb.com/products/Win32OpenSSL.html for a
precompiled Win32 binary) for the encryption, Stunnel
(http://www.stunnel.org/download/binaries.html for a precompiled
Win32 binary) for the Tunnel and a VNC client, http://www.realvnc.com/
or http://www.tightvnc.com/ or http://ultravnc.sourceforge.net/ I
personally use TightVNC

Once it's set up, you should be able to create a VNC session over a
secure tunnel over the internet.

I've never done it personally, but its possible.

Bryan Carbonnell
bryan_carbonnelL at cbc.ca

>>> serbach at new.rr.com 06-Apr-04 8:09:47 AM >>>
Dan,

>> GoToMyPC <<

I've been evaluating it myself these past few weeks. I, indeed, have
suggested it to the appropriate people, but there may be some
resistance. It's a domestic violence shelter and they're very chary of
sending any data via the Internet for fear that it will be intercepted
and fall into the hands of the abusers.

To help them with some of their custom report requests I offered to
send them an Access routine to scramble the names, addresses, and phone
numbers of every client in their files. They're thinking about it.



From serbach at new.rr.com  Tue Apr  6 08:06:43 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 08:06:43 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file
Message-ID: <20040406080643.1599552369.serbach@new.rr.com>

Bryan,

>> I've never done it personally, but its possible. <<

Well, there ya went and ruined it for me! I was all charged up with confidence and then ya had to do THIS to me!

Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504
 
"Congress is as trustworthy with money as a crack addict who is experimenting with heroin." - Dave Barry
 
"Giving money and power to the government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys." - P. J. O'Rourke
 
"Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for." - Will Rogers
 
"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly American criminal class except Congress." - Mark Twain



From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca  Tue Apr  6 08:22:08 2004
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 09:22:08 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file
Message-ID: <s07276d5.031@cbc.ca>

Well then how's this to instill confidence again.

I've used VNC. I've used OpenSSL. Both easy to use and set up. H*ll
I've even compiled OpenSSL (on an Liunux box :) 

However, here are some links that may help if you want to give it a
go.

Straight from the horses mouth: http://www.stunnel.org/examples/ or
more specifically http://www.stunnel.org/examples/vnc.html

or from someone else:
http://stunnel.mirt.net/static/VNC_StunnelHOWTO.html or
http://faq.gotomyvnc.com/fom-serve/cache/33.html 

How about an article from Security Focus on how to do it
http://www.securityfocus.com/infocus/1677 It looks like it has a
step-by-step.

or google's 33,100 hits
http://www.google.ca/search?q=vnc+stunnel&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search&meta=

Bryan Carbonnell
bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca

>>> serbach at new.rr.com 06-Apr-04 9:06:43 AM >>>
Bryan,

>> I've never done it personally, but its possible. <<

Well, there ya went and ruined it for me! I was all charged up with
confidence and then ya had to do THIS to me!

Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504
 
"Congress is as trustworthy with money as a crack addict who is
experimenting with heroin." - Dave Barry
 
"Giving money and power to the government is like giving whiskey and
car keys to teenage boys." - P. J. O'Rourke
 
"Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for." -
Will Rogers
 
"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no
distinctly American criminal class except Congress." - Mark Twain



From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Tue Apr  6 08:33:16 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 08:33:16 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file
Message-ID: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE4C8@TAPPEEXCH01>

We tried GoToMyPC here.  Had a number of problems, especially when working
in a "2-way" teleconference where both parties were driving the machine.
The machine would hang while waiting for the other party to move their
mouse, click a key, etc.

I followed Drew's suggestion a while back, and picked up a copy of Remote
Administrator (www.radmin.com).  $35 covers the license for 2 machines.  No
monthly charges.  No headaches.  Works for us!


-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com]
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 5:35 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file


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Steve,

I don't have an answer to your specific problem, but since your client is
distant this might help:

Have your client download a trial version of GoToMyPC.  He can set up an
account for himself.  GoToMyPC has a feature called 'Guest Invite'.  He can
use this to let you see what's happening on his screen, and you can control
his PC from yours so you can do some troubleshooting.  

I guess this is similar to WebEx or PCAnywhere.  If he decides to keep the
GoToMyPC account, he only needs to pay $15/mo.  I use it to work with my
clients so they can see 'drafts' of what I'm doing without making a trip.

Best of Luck!
Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steven W. Erbach
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 10:33 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file

Dear Group,

I have an Access 2000 FE/BE application loaded on a client's system in
another city 90 miles away. I've been working with their network guy over
the phone and he's sent me screen shots of error messages along the way.
Here's the situation.

The "master" MDB FE database is loaded on the server. I have the local
people there create an MDE and place it in another folder so that's it's
available for the users who download it to their workstations when a new
version is ready. While working with my client's network guy, Bob, the MDE
file SEEMS to be created all right; but once the compacting is finished and
the FE starts up, the first form opens and he gets this message (it's an "i"
message):

The expression On Load you entered as the event property setting produced
the following error: Error accessing file. Network connection may have been
lost.

  * The expression may not result in the name of a macro, the name of a
user-defined function, or [Event Procedure].
  * There may have been an error evaluating the function, event, or macro.

When he clicks OK the startup form (which is supposed to be hidden) is there
on the screen and the application has halted.

INVESTIGATION:

1) They don't have the Documentor installed so I can't see what the path is
to the BE.

2) However, I do have a form (that I cobbed from Steve Nyberg) that shows
all the links with their paths. When we attempt to open this form we get the
message you see above. Click OK on the message and Nyberg's SeeLinks form
opens but with nothing showing up regarding linked tables.

3) I can open the linked tables from the "master" front end. But when I open
the table that contains the latest version number (part of the version
upgrade system) I see something odd. This Versions table has one row. The
table has a Default value of the Now() function in the VersionDate column.
On my system when I look at the table I see the first row all right and in
the 2nd (empty) row I see (AutoNumber) in the key field and today's date and
time in the VersionDate column. On my client's system he sees #Name? in the
VersionDate column in an empty row. He cannot add information in a new row
because Access doesn't like the default value. So I had Bob remove the
default value. I still get the main problem.

4) The users can still run the application from their workstations using the
old version of the FE. There hasn't been any problem there.

5) The Startup form of the FE calls Carl Tribble's Auto-Linker to check the
link status of the first table before the main switchboard menu appears.
This is all working properly on the users' workstations.

6) I tried Compact and Repair on both the BE and the FE. No change in basic
error.

7) I checked the references. They're all there.

8) Only thing I haven't done (at least that I know how to do) is a
/decompile on the "master" FE on the server.

I'm sorry about the length of this message. I somehow doubt that I would
find the problem even if I were sitting at the workstation. Bob is very
capable, so I'm sure he's relaying to me everything that he sees.

At least my clients can still work with the older version of the app. I am
just stumped why this error message appears in the "master" front end
database. Any thoughts, other than "Well, why the heck do you let the user
make an MDE in the first place, ya numbskull?!"

Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504
 
"Congress is as trustworthy with money as a crack addict who is
experimenting with heroin." - Dave Barry
 
"Giving money and power to the government is like giving whiskey and car
keys to teenage boys." - P. J. O'Rourke
 
"Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for." - Will
Rogers
 
"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly
American criminal class except Congress." - Mark Twain


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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Apr  6 09:13:18 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 09:13:18 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file
In-Reply-To: <19244937.1081259191497.JavaMail.root@sniper2.marix.com>
Message-ID: <000601c41be1$4f82f2f0$de1811d8@DanWaters>

I have to say that I haven't had any problems yet with GoToMyPC.  It seems
that the host PC has priority over the keyboard and mouse activities.  A
high-speed internet connection on both ends is required.

I will check out Remote Administrator - the price is good!

Dan Waters



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 8:33 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file

We tried GoToMyPC here.  Had a number of problems, especially when working
in a "2-way" teleconference where both parties were driving the machine.
The machine would hang while waiting for the other party to move their
mouse, click a key, etc.

I followed Drew's suggestion a while back, and picked up a copy of Remote
Administrator (www.radmin.com).  $35 covers the license for 2 machines.  No
monthly charges.  No headaches.  Works for us!


-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com]
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 5:35 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file


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Steve,

I don't have an answer to your specific problem, but since your client is
distant this might help:

Have your client download a trial version of GoToMyPC.  He can set up an
account for himself.  GoToMyPC has a feature called 'Guest Invite'.  He can
use this to let you see what's happening on his screen, and you can control
his PC from yours so you can do some troubleshooting.  

I guess this is similar to WebEx or PCAnywhere.  If he decides to keep the
GoToMyPC account, he only needs to pay $15/mo.  I use it to work with my
clients so they can see 'drafts' of what I'm doing without making a trip.

Best of Luck!
Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steven W. Erbach
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 10:33 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file

Dear Group,

I have an Access 2000 FE/BE application loaded on a client's system in
another city 90 miles away. I've been working with their network guy over
the phone and he's sent me screen shots of error messages along the way.
Here's the situation.

The "master" MDB FE database is loaded on the server. I have the local
people there create an MDE and place it in another folder so that's it's
available for the users who download it to their workstations when a new
version is ready. While working with my client's network guy, Bob, the MDE
file SEEMS to be created all right; but once the compacting is finished and
the FE starts up, the first form opens and he gets this message (it's an "i"
message):

The expression On Load you entered as the event property setting produced
the following error: Error accessing file. Network connection may have been
lost.

  * The expression may not result in the name of a macro, the name of a
user-defined function, or [Event Procedure].
  * There may have been an error evaluating the function, event, or macro.

When he clicks OK the startup form (which is supposed to be hidden) is there
on the screen and the application has halted.

INVESTIGATION:

1) They don't have the Documentor installed so I can't see what the path is
to the BE.

2) However, I do have a form (that I cobbed from Steve Nyberg) that shows
all the links with their paths. When we attempt to open this form we get the
message you see above. Click OK on the message and Nyberg's SeeLinks form
opens but with nothing showing up regarding linked tables.

3) I can open the linked tables from the "master" front end. But when I open
the table that contains the latest version number (part of the version
upgrade system) I see something odd. This Versions table has one row. The
table has a Default value of the Now() function in the VersionDate column.
On my system when I look at the table I see the first row all right and in
the 2nd (empty) row I see (AutoNumber) in the key field and today's date and
time in the VersionDate column. On my client's system he sees #Name? in the
VersionDate column in an empty row. He cannot add information in a new row
because Access doesn't like the default value. So I had Bob remove the
default value. I still get the main problem.

4) The users can still run the application from their workstations using the
old version of the FE. There hasn't been any problem there.

5) The Startup form of the FE calls Carl Tribble's Auto-Linker to check the
link status of the first table before the main switchboard menu appears.
This is all working properly on the users' workstations.

6) I tried Compact and Repair on both the BE and the FE. No change in basic
error.

7) I checked the references. They're all there.

8) Only thing I haven't done (at least that I know how to do) is a
/decompile on the "master" FE on the server.

I'm sorry about the length of this message. I somehow doubt that I would
find the problem even if I were sitting at the workstation. Bob is very
capable, so I'm sure he's relaying to me everything that he sees.

At least my clients can still work with the older version of the app. I am
just stumped why this error message appears in the "master" front end
database. Any thoughts, other than "Well, why the heck do you let the user
make an MDE in the first place, ya numbskull?!"

Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
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From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Tue Apr  6 09:53:14 2004
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 07:53:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] MS Access to VB.Net
Message-ID: <20040406145314.54399.qmail@web20416.mail.yahoo.com>

Does anyone know of a free untility/application that can convert an MS Access application to VB.Net?
 
Thanks.



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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr  6 09:58:25 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 10:58:25 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
Message-ID: <20040406145847.NMC1781.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Someone has asked me "What's in the future for Microsoft and the Open Source
movement? "
 
It's such a huge topic I couldn't really answer -- it's going to take me a
few days to formulate a response. It is a tad off topic for a strictly
Access list -- and I don't want any MS bashing, just because that would be
even more off topic -- but anyone want to make a comment on the subject? I'd
love to hear them -- my initial response to the guy was "Resistance is
futile" but that's only really funny if you're saying it from the MS
perspective. ;) 
 
Susan H. 


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Apr  6 10:10:10 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 08:10:10 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] MS Access to VB.Net
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8631270B@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Not for free, but there is a product called Evolution
http://www.perfectdownloads.com/software-development/basic-vb-vb-dotnet/
download-evolution.htm that is not too expensive and can be tried out
for free.

Charlotte Foust

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Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 6:53 AM
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access;
AccessD solving'
Subject: [AccessD] MS Access to VB.Net


Does anyone know of a free untility/application that can convert an MS
Access application to VB.Net?
 
Thanks.



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From mwp.reid at queens-belfast.ac.uk  Tue Apr  6 10:04:54 2004
From: mwp.reid at queens-belfast.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 16:04:54 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <20040406145847.NMC1781.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <SIMEON.10404061654.A@TUG00001.fujin.qub.ac.uk>

>From our point of view it would be difficult in terms of 
money and infrastructure to change over. The amount of work 
would be massive requiring a substantial investment in both 
hardware, software and training.

Its not impossible just take the will to make the move.

Martin

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Apr  6 10:22:12 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 08:22:12 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A97 or A2002 
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8632C522@infoserver01.infostat.local>

You can use DAO with A2002 (and yes, that is AXP), so that isn't a
problem.  The 97 file format is smaller because it doesn't use unicode,
but I would suggest using the 2000 file format because it does use
unicode and it doesn't have the extra bloat problem that exists in 2002.
The file size will roughly double between 97 and 2000/2002 because of
unicode.  

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 12:50 AM
To: AccessD (AccessD at databaseadvisors.com)
Subject: [AccessD] A97 or A2002 


Hi Group

 

I am looking to rewrite a system (to a VB front end Access BE from Acc
FE/Be in Acc 97).  I still intend to use DAO - I am looking for advice
on whether to upgrade the Be to A2002 ( is this AXP? btw) or keep BE in
Acc 97 .

 

TIA

 

Richard

 

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr  6 10:24:03 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 11:24:03 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <SIMEON.10404061654.A@TUG00001.fujin.qub.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <20040406152426.QPZO1746.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

But why should they?

Susan H. 

>From our point of view it would be difficult in terms of
money and infrastructure to change over. The amount of work would be massive
requiring a substantial investment in both hardware, software and training.

Its not impossible just take the will to make the move.




From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca  Tue Apr  6 10:30:12 2004
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 11:30:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
Message-ID: <s07294d4.078@cbc.ca>

Susan,

I don't have time right now, but I'll post something later this
afternoon or tonight.

Bryan Carbonnell
bryan_carbnnell at cbc.ca

>>> ssharkins at bellsouth.net 06-Apr-04 10:58:25 AM >>>
Someone has asked me "What's in the future for Microsoft and the Open
Source
movement? "
 
It's such a huge topic I couldn't really answer -- it's going to take
me a
few days to formulate a response. It is a tad off topic for a strictly
Access list -- and I don't want any MS bashing, just because that would
be
even more off topic -- but anyone want to make a comment on the
subject? I'd
love to hear them -- my initial response to the guy was "Resistance is
futile" but that's only really funny if you're saying it from the MS
perspective. ;) 
 
Susan H. 
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From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Tue Apr  6 10:43:22 2004
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 16:43:22 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
References: <20040406152426.QPZO1746.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <000b01c41bed$e465ea60$9111758f@aine>

WHy should we move?

Money, costs us a fortune for MS licences


Martin


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 4:24 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: open source


> But why should they?
>
> Susan H.
>
> >From our point of view it would be difficult in terms of
> money and infrastructure to change over. The amount of work would be
massive
> requiring a substantial investment in both hardware, software and
training.
>
> Its not impossible just take the will to make the move.
>
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr  6 10:51:58 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 11:51:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <000b01c41bed$e465ea60$9111758f@aine>
Message-ID: <20040406155218.WWBW1775.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Oh, I'm not confronting license prices as is -- but that's not a motivation
for MS to move -- it's a motivation for you to want them to change their
policy. ;) I thought you guys were an MS shop already -- you're not?

Susan H. 

WHy should we move?

Money, costs us a fortune for MS licences


Martin


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From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 4:24 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: open source


> But why should they?
>
> Susan H.
>
> >From our point of view it would be difficult in terms of
> money and infrastructure to change over. The amount of work would be
massive
> requiring a substantial investment in both hardware, software and
training.
>
> Its not impossible just take the will to make the move.
>
>
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From jwelz at hotmail.com  Tue Apr  6 11:42:30 2004
From: jwelz at hotmail.com (Jürgen Welz)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 10:42:30 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
Message-ID: <BAY2-F94xNN8WVYgh4E00018e6d@hotmail.com>

I get a news letter 'What's New Now from Ziff Davis' that had links to a 
number of articles alleging that the TCO of Microsoft product was cheaper 
than open source alternatives.  I very briefly skimmed the article but don't 
have access to the mail account that receives this news letter except 
Fridays when I do my weekly support stint at a former employer who maintains 
this account for me.

I suspect that many of the arguments have to do with the ubiquitousness of 
the Microsoft product in North America, the pervasive use of which results 
in a significantly reduced learning curve for many businesses.

Ciao
J?rgen Welz
Edmonton, Alberta
jwelz at hotmail.com


>Money, costs us a fortune for MS licences
>
>
>Martin
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 4:24 PM
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: open source
>
>
> > But why should they?
> >
> > Susan H.
> >
> > >From our point of view it would be difficult in terms of
> > money and infrastructure to change over. The amount of work would be
>massive
> > requiring a substantial investment in both hardware, software and
>training.
> >
> > Its not impossible just take the will to make the move.

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From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Tue Apr  6 11:56:05 2004
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 17:56:05 +0100 
Subject: [AccessD] A97 or A2002 
Message-ID: <F37DAC9A2964B144A2973EBCA8C54DBD25DCBF@BURY2K23.bury.gov.uk>

Charlotte
Thanks for your reply - I assume you can choose when you load A2002 (AXP) to
have 2000 format?  What are the benefits for Unicode - what other benefits
does A2000 have?
Thanks


-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] 
Sent: 06 April 2004 16:22
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A97 or A2002 

You can use DAO with A2002 (and yes, that is AXP), so that isn't a
problem.  The 97 file format is smaller because it doesn't use unicode,
but I would suggest using the 2000 file format because it does use
unicode and it doesn't have the extra bloat problem that exists in 2002.
The file size will roughly double between 97 and 2000/2002 because of
unicode.  

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 12:50 AM
To: AccessD (AccessD at databaseadvisors.com)
Subject: [AccessD] A97 or A2002 


Hi Group

 

I am looking to rewrite a system (to a VB front end Access BE from Acc
FE/Be in Acc 97).  I still intend to use DAO - I am looking for advice
on whether to upgrade the Be to A2002 ( is this AXP? btw) or keep BE in
Acc 97 .

 

TIA

 

Richard

 

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From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Tue Apr  6 12:20:32 2004
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 18:20:32 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
References: <20040406155218.WWBW1775.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <000d01c41bfb$789ccde0$1b02a8c0@MARTINREID>

We are. Sorry for confusion.

Martin
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 4:51 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: open source


> Oh, I'm not confronting license prices as is -- but that's not a
motivation
> for MS to move -- it's a motivation for you to want them to change their
> policy. ;) I thought you guys were an MS shop already -- you're not?
>
> Susan H.
>
> WHy should we move?
>
> Money, costs us a fortune for MS licences
>
>
> Martin
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 4:24 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: open source
>
>
> > But why should they?
> >
> > Susan H.
> >
> > >From our point of view it would be difficult in terms of
> > money and infrastructure to change over. The amount of work would be
> massive
> > requiring a substantial investment in both hardware, software and
> training.
> >
> > Its not impossible just take the will to make the move.
> >
> >
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Apr  6 12:37:11 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 10:37:11 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A97 or A2002 
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312710@infoserver01.infostat.local>

The format is selected on a database basis, but 2000 is the default
format.  You can set the default to 2002, but the database opens in
whatever format you used to create/convert it.  I'll let someone else
address the unicode issue.  

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 8:56 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A97 or A2002 


Charlotte
Thanks for your reply - I assume you can choose when you load A2002
(AXP) to have 2000 format?  What are the benefits for Unicode - what
other benefits does A2000 have? Thanks


-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] 
Sent: 06 April 2004 16:22
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A97 or A2002 

You can use DAO with A2002 (and yes, that is AXP), so that isn't a
problem.  The 97 file format is smaller because it doesn't use unicode,
but I would suggest using the 2000 file format because it does use
unicode and it doesn't have the extra bloat problem that exists in 2002.
The file size will roughly double between 97 and 2000/2002 because of
unicode.  

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 12:50 AM
To: AccessD (AccessD at databaseadvisors.com)
Subject: [AccessD] A97 or A2002 


Hi Group

 

I am looking to rewrite a system (to a VB front end Access BE from Acc
FE/Be in Acc 97).  I still intend to use DAO - I am looking for advice
on whether to upgrade the Be to A2002 ( is this AXP? btw) or keep BE in
Acc 97 .

 

TIA

 

Richard

 

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From my.lists at verizon.net  Tue Apr  6 13:39:32 2004
From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 11:39:32 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Lightweight security (Revisited)
Message-ID: <4072F964.8050307@verizon.net>

I'm not much into the light weight security, however... after reading 
several of John's posts, I'm sure others have wanted a feature like 
this: check out the following article in which they feature an Access 
LightWeight security, but they call it LASsie.
http://advisor.com/doc/13743

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr  6 12:59:26 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 13:59:26 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <000d01c41bfb$789ccde0$1b02a8c0@MARTINREID>
Message-ID: <20040406175945.JJMC1709.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I can understand the push for open source from the development side -- I
just don't see the issues that motivate MS to actually go that route. 

Susan H. 

We are. Sorry for confusion.




From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr  6 14:58:56 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 15:58:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Search tool
References: <040620041047.29003.40728ABA000593790000714B2200734076FF99998A8D9E8F8F9E@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <006501c41c11$98145e70$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...F&R is comparatively inexpensive but ime, SF works much, much faster and
has a lot of options simply not found in F&R ...I switched to F&R for awhile
when SF was late getting an AXP version released but switched right back as
soon as they released it.

Political advertising is the price of our chains ...my name is William
Hindman and I approve this message :)

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To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
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Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 6:47 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Search tool


>
> Speed Ferret is an excellent tool but I prefer Rick Fisher's Find And
Replace.  It is about 2/3rds the cost of Speed Ferret and it has served me
well for the past 5 years.
>
> Check out http://www.rickworld.com
>
>
> --
> John V. Ruff - The Eternal Optimist :-)
>
>
> "Commit to the Lord whatever you do,
>     and your plans will succeed." Proverbs 16:3
> > Hi group,
> >
> > does anyone know of a good search tool / addin or whatever. With which i
> > will be able to search in queryfields, querycriteris, formcontrols
> > recordsources etc. to find querynames, tablenames, tablefields,
functions
> > etc.
> >
> > I hope you understand what i am looking for.....
> >
> > BTW i will use this in A2K.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Bert-Jan
> >
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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Tue Apr  6 16:02:41 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 16:02:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Help with Error accessing file
In-Reply-To: <200404061715.i36HFPB18999@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040406160114.02af0ea0@pop3.highstream.net>

Steve,

I do not know why no one else caught this.  The database is corrupt.  That 
is one of the errors you get when it is.

Robert

At 12:15 PM 4/6/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steven W. Erbach
>Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 10:33 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file
>
>Dear Group,
>
>I have an Access 2000 FE/BE application loaded on a client's system in
>another city 90 miles away. I've been working with their network guy over
>the phone and he's sent me screen shots of error messages along the way.
>Here's the situation.
>
>The "master" MDB FE database is loaded on the server. I have the local
>people there create an MDE and place it in another folder so that's it's
>available for the users who download it to their workstations when a new
>version is ready. While working with my client's network guy, Bob, the MDE
>file SEEMS to be created all right; but once the compacting is finished and
>the FE starts up, the first form opens and he gets this message (it's an "i"
>message):
>
>The expression On Load you entered as the event property setting produced
>the following error: Error accessing file. Network connection may have been
>lost.
>
>   * The expression may not result in the name of a macro, the name of a
>user-defined function, or [Event Procedure].
>   * There may have been an error evaluating the function, event, or macro.
>
>When he clicks OK the startup form (which is supposed to be hidden) is there
>on the screen and the application has halted.
>
>INVESTIGATION:
>
>1) They don't have the Documentor installed so I can't see what the path is
>to the BE.
>
>2) However, I do have a form (that I cobbed from Steve Nyberg) that shows
>all the links with their paths. When we attempt to open this form we get the
>message you see above. Click OK on the message and Nyberg's SeeLinks form
>opens but with nothing showing up regarding linked tables.
>
>3) I can open the linked tables from the "master" front end. But when I open
>the table that contains the latest version number (part of the version
>upgrade system) I see something odd. This Versions table has one row. The
>table has a Default value of the Now() function in the VersionDate column.
>On my system when I look at the table I see the first row all right and in
>the 2nd (empty) row I see (AutoNumber) in the key field and today's date and
>time in the VersionDate column. On my client's system he sees #Name? in the
>VersionDate column in an empty row. He cannot add information in a new row
>because Access doesn't like the default value. So I had Bob remove the
>default value. I still get the main problem.
>
>4) The users can still run the application from their workstations using the
>old version of the FE. There hasn't been any problem there.
>
>5) The Startup form of the FE calls Carl Tribble's Auto-Linker to check the
>link status of the first table before the main switchboard menu appears.
>This is all working properly on the users' workstations.
>
>6) I tried Compact and Repair on both the BE and the FE. No change in basic
>error.
>
>7) I checked the references. They're all there.
>
>8) Only thing I haven't done (at least that I know how to do) is a
>/decompile on the "master" FE on the server.
>
>I'm sorry about the length of this message. I somehow doubt that I would
>find the problem even if I were sitting at the workstation. Bob is very
>capable, so I'm sure he's relaying to me everything that he sees.
>
>At least my clients can still work with the older version of the app. I am
>just stumped why this error message appears in the "master" front end
>database. Any thoughts, other than "Well, why the heck do you let the user
>make an MDE in the first place, ya numbskull?!"
>
>Regards,
>
>Steve Erbach
>Scientific Marketing
>Neenah, WI
>920-969-0504




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr  6 16:49:03 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 07:49:03 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <20040406145847.NMC1781.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <4073B26F.4145.132DAB@localhost>

On 6 Apr 2004 at 10:58, Susan Harkins wrote:

> Someone has asked me "What's in the future for Microsoft and the Open Source
> movement? "
>  
> It's such a huge topic I couldn't really answer -- it's going to take me a
> few days to formulate a response. It is a tad off topic for a strictly
> Access list -- and I don't want any MS bashing, just because that would be
> even more off topic -- but anyone want to make a comment on the subject? I'd
> love to hear them -- my initial response to the guy was "Resistance is
> futile" but that's only really funny if you're saying it from the MS
> perspective. ;) 
>  

I think that Peruvian Congressmen Edgar Villanueva Nu?ez summed up 
the arguments fairly well:

http://www.opensource.org/docs/peru_and_ms.php 
-- 
Lexacorp Ltd
http://www.lexacorp.com.pg
Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System 
Support.





From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca  Tue Apr  6 16:46:58 2004
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 17:46:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
Message-ID: <s072f020.079@cbc.ca>

Warning!!! I got very, very verbose.

In the grand scheme of things, I don't think that MS has to worry a lot
about open source on the desktop for quite a few more years. Once some
of the desktop apps start to mature a bit more, I think MS will start
being given a run for their money. Things like OpenOffice (office
suite), Firefox (web browser), ThunderBird(e-mail client). Once they
start to take a hold, then MS will definitely need to watch what they
do. Actually they are probably watching now and don't like what they
see. The open source apps are *almost* there, but they have their
quirks, that either need to get fixed, or users will get used to them.
Just like they did, and do, with MS products.

As for the actual Desktop operating system, that is further out. 5-7
years would be my guess. Linux needs a few things to become more
competitive with Windows. It *needs* to become less "geek-friendly" and
more "user friendly". It also *NEEDS* to have a "standard" GUI, or at
least a standard layout. That way the end user can find what they are
looking for with minimal effort. Fragmentation, between KDE and Gnome
and all the lesser known desktops, is really hurting Linux's acceptance
on the desktop. Home and corporate. The choice to use your preferred
desktop needs to exist, but it's got to start out looking and feeling
the same as the next one. That way a user can go from this PC to that PC
to the other and have the "same experience" Much the same way Windows
users have it right now. yes I know there are differences between 9x,
NT4, 2K and XP (both the classic UI and the "Fisher Price" one{that I
happen to like :) } ). they are slightly different, but close enough for
most people to stumble their way around. Unfortunately the Linux
X-Widows desktops don't have that "portability" right now. The choice to
use which ever one you want needs to remain, for the hard core Linux
users, but for the average user, they don't care. Just let them set
their wallpaper to their dog or cat or kids and make sure they can use
the tools they need to do their job and they are happy. Yep, I know that
is a bit condescending to the users, but I don't think its' that far
from the truth

Now, in the server room, I think that MS has got more to worry about.
Just like the switch from Novell to MS happened (although I disagree
that Novell networks are dead), I really think that the switch to Linux
there is already  happening.

As more and more SysAdmins set up "test" boxes to "play" with Linux and
end up part of the network infrastructure, Linux will become more and
more the choice for new servers. With all the excellent and mature
server software for Linux, that is out there, MS better watch themselves
otherwise they will lose the server room. Is Linux better than Win
Servers? Are either better than Novell? Is Novell better that either
one? No to all the questions. They all fill different needs. 

If I am Novell certified, then of course I'm going to lean towards
Novell servers and be able to "make it work". If I am MS certified, then
that is where my loyalties will be. If I'm comfortable with Unix or
Linux, then Linux will be the server of choice for me. All 3 would work
equally well. 

I'd almost be willing to bet that if I had 3 equally competent
SysAdmins, one for each Linux, MS and Novell, the TCO would be similar
enough to not be a deciding factor. As more and more SysAdmins become
more and more comfortable with Linux you'll see they start taking market
share away from MS, and not just the Unix vendors like they are now.

As MS makes the hardware specs higher and higher for their servers,
increases the license costs and p*sses more and more people with the
changes in the license agreements, then Linux servers will replace MS
servers one by one. I don't think you will see a lot of people saying
"Rip out all the MS servers and replace them with Linux servers", what
you will see is people saying "We need another server, so let's use
Linux, since it can integrate with our network as it is"

Now, I know that isn't really answering your question Susan, but I'm
getting to that. :)

MS needs to take the Open Source community seriously. Its making
inroads into a lot of places that I never thought it would. My house for
one. I have long been a strong MS proponent. Well actually, since about
92 or 93, when I first started using Windows. But as Open Source is
maturing, it is looking like a better alternative to me. I am using a
whole host of Open Source apps in my day to day life. They are
comparable to commercial apps. Things like Filezilla (FTP client, but I
know you know that already Susan :)and Firefox (web browser). Why should
I fork $40 or $50 or $100 for an app that I can get for free? Yes, I
know that with the paid apps, I get tech support, but these days tech
support for software is crap. The last time I *NEEDED* software support,
was about 4 or 5 years ago when I got bad discs. I took it back to the
store where I bought it until I had gone through EVERY SINGLE
SHRINK-WRAPPED PACKAGE they had. I finally contacted the vendor and got
the run around trying to get these defective discs replaced. It took me
about 3 months to get it sorted out. For $100 I should get better
service than that. I'd much sooner deal with an online community, such
as DBA, for the software support than the vendor. I get better and more
accurate responses.

Will MS need to make their stuff Open Source to survive? I don't think
so. 
Will MS Open Source their software anyway? I really doubt it. Maybe
bits and pieces, but the whole thing, No way.
Will MS incorporate Open Source into their software? As far as I
understand, they already have with the TCP/IP stack. Its based on the
BSD stack, IIRC. 

Keep in mind that there are several different Open Source licenses.
There are 2 that I am most familiar with.

1) There is the Gnu Public Licence(GPL) which in a nutshell says that
the software, and any software derived for it MUST make available the
source code to those that ask. You can charge for the software if you
want, but the source code must be given upon request. This is what the
Linux Kernel is distributed under.

2) BSD style license. Basically this says that you can do what you wan
t with the source code. You can leave it open, you can build a derived
work and keep it open. You can create a derivative and close it. You can
do what ever you want, except claim you wrote the original. Mac OS X is
built on one of the BSD operating systems. It is a closed derivative of
BSD. If you want to see a BSD style license look at the license
agreement that we (Andy, Lembit, Reuben and I) used for the BEU.

So they are allowed to use BSD style open source material in their
applications. So, I suspect that they will continue to use it. However,
there is the expectation that if you improve open source code, you
return the improved code to the community. I can't see MS doing this
freely, or at least "in the open". It will hurt their "public image"

To sum up, in 10,000 words or less :) 

MS needs to watch the open source community. It will hurt them if they
are not careful. It won't be a quick kill, but slow and gradual.
Actually it will probably hurt them even if they are careful. MS
probably won't open source their code, but will use what they can from
the community and get away with.

Is open source a panacea? No way. But then again, neither is MS. It's a
choice that is becoming more and more viable especially as the software
becomes more mature. Will it hurt MS? In the long run, more likely than
not, but MS will survive. They may be different, but they will still be
there.

How's that for $0.02 worth of opinion.

Bryan Carbonnell
bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca


>>> ssharkins at bellsouth.net 04/06/04 10:58AM >>>
Someone has asked me "What's in the future for Microsoft and the Open
Source
movement? "
 
It's such a huge topic I couldn't really answer -- it's going to take
me a
few days to formulate a response. It is a tad off topic for a strictly
Access list -- and I don't want any MS bashing, just because that would
be
even more off topic -- but anyone want to make a comment on the
subject? I'd
love to hear them -- my initial response to the guy was "Resistance is
futile" but that's only really funny if you're saying it from the MS
perspective. ;) 



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr  6 17:18:18 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 18:18:18 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <s072f020.079@cbc.ca>
Message-ID: <20040406221838.PADI1715.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

That was very good and very close to my own opinions except I just don't
have the expertise to speak to servers. I think MS will adjust and change as
necessary -- but can't really predict what that will mean. 

My question is this -- if they're all giving it up for free -- how are they
going to make money and stay in business. Support? Is there really going to
be enough support $ to cover it? I wouldn't think so. Anybody using MySQL
and paying for the support? I absolutely hate using MySQL, but I wouldn't
pay for support. There's got to be part of the puzzle that I'm missing. 

Susan H. 

Is open source a panacea? No way. But then again, neither is MS. It's a
choice that is becoming more and more viable especially as the software
becomes more mature. Will it hurt MS? In the long run, more likely than not,
but MS will survive. They may be different, but they will still be there.




From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Tue Apr  6 17:48:37 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 18:48:37 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB49@nnse14.nns.com>

Congressman DR. EDGAR DAVID VILLANUEVA NU?EZ's reply was simply AWESOME!
Well worth the read.



Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart McLachlan [mailto:stuart at lexacorp.com.pg] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 5:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: open source


On 6 Apr 2004 at 10:58, Susan Harkins wrote:

> Someone has asked me "What's in the future for Microsoft and the Open
Source
> movement? "
>  
> It's such a huge topic I couldn't really answer -- it's going to take me a
> few days to formulate a response. It is a tad off topic for a strictly
> Access list -- and I don't want any MS bashing, just because that would be
> even more off topic -- but anyone want to make a comment on the subject?
I'd
> love to hear them -- my initial response to the guy was "Resistance is
> futile" but that's only really funny if you're saying it from the MS
> perspective. ;) 
>  

I think that Peruvian Congressmen Edgar Villanueva Nu?ez summed up 
the arguments fairly well:

http://www.opensource.org/docs/peru_and_ms.php 
-- 
Lexacorp Ltd
http://www.lexacorp.com.pg
Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System 
Support.



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From my.lists at verizon.net  Tue Apr  6 17:51:53 2004
From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 15:51:53 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <s072f020.079@cbc.ca>
References: <s072f020.079@cbc.ca>
Message-ID: <40733489.2040700@verizon.net>

Bryan Carbonnell said the following on 4/6/2004 2:46 PM:

>As for the actual Desktop operating system, that is further out. 5-7
>years would be my guess. Linux needs a few things to become more
>competitive with Windows. It *needs* to become less "geek-friendly" and
>more "user friendly". It also *NEEDS* to have a "standard" GUI, or at
>least a standard layout. 
>
While I agree with you I also have to guess that a Linux convertion may 
be closer than we all guess.  There have been leaps and bounds in which 
the various distros have improved their desktop products.  I also must 
concur that a standardized GUI would be the killer blow that would/will 
ultimately drive hords of users away from Microsoft.  I base my opinion 
off such distros like RedHat or even the newest one I've seen 
(Knopixx).  Wich is an OS bootable completely off the CD.  It is Linux, 
and what makes this even more cool is that you could theoretically put 
out a distro that would make it so that end users "couldn't" break thier 
installations.  Just always boot from the CD.  With High end products 
such as ThunderBird and FireFox and even some of the OpenOffice 
products, Open Source products are reaching maturity levels that are 
acceptable to a wider population.  Some of the greatest leaps have been 
"custom installers" for such products. This improves delivery to end 
users who are wanting to try a simpler to use OPEN SOURCE community.

A greater risk than vulnerabilities in MS software is not so much the 
security holes, but the COST of the software.  You have many college 
students that simply can't afford to go w/ MS Office so they use 
OpenOffice.  While not all do, the trend is steadily climing, and w/ the 
avalability getting better and the quaility reaching acceptace from the 
general public, this will help push more OpenSource software into the 
main stream.


-- 
-Francisco




From bruce_bruen at mlc.com.au  Tue Apr  6 17:51:13 2004
From: bruce_bruen at mlc.com.au (bruce_bruen at mlc.com.au)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 08:51:13 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
Message-ID: <OF6CE64ACF.5ACC1622-ONCA256E6E.007BA3BC-CA256E6E.007D573A@mlc.com.au>





Susan,

Open source does not mean free of cost.  Nor does it always mean free of
licence fees.

The strength of the open source movement lies in the ability of the
licencee to alter the software to their own needs.

Apache on Linux servers is the most widely used web server technology in
the world.

Usage of MySQL in corporate applications in Aus/NZ has increased by 60% in
the last year and is expected to grow at a similar but declining rate for
the "forseeable future"  (Source C-Net survey results)

There are versioning problems in open source software - dont let anyone
tell you otherwise.

The TCO numbers game is b***s**t.  There is "statistical evidence" proving
both sides are correct.

Have you read "The Cathedral and the Bazaar".
http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/  or
http://www.firstmonday.org/  Its the short and to the point "sales"
material for open source.

Look at the adoption of open source software by the public sector for some
indication of the stability and future of the open source movement.

B




                                                                                                                                               
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That was very good and very close to my own opinions except I just don't
have the expertise to speak to servers. I think MS will adjust and change
as
necessary -- but can't really predict what that will mean.

My question is this -- if they're all giving it up for free -- how are they
going to make money and stay in business. Support? Is there really going to
be enough support $ to cover it? I wouldn't think so. Anybody using MySQL
and paying for the support? I absolutely hate using MySQL, but I wouldn't
pay for support. There's got to be part of the puzzle that I'm missing.

Susan H.

Is open source a panacea? No way. But then again, neither is MS. It's a
choice that is becoming more and more viable especially as the software
becomes more mature. Will it hurt MS? In the long run, more likely than
not,
but MS will survive. They may be different, but they will still be there.


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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Tue Apr  6 17:59:07 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 08:59:07 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Transfer Database
References: <20040406090248.69D1225E4A0@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <001801c41c2a$c4014c00$48619a89@DDICK>

Hi Guys
Yep Paul was right
The first field had been changed (by me :-(() in testing
and that stuffed everything up. Change the columns headers and away she went <sigh>
Thanks for the replies

DD

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy Lacey" <andy at minstersystems.co.uk>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Transfer Database


> That was my first reaction Paul, then I wondered how that could be when
> doing an import rather than an export. The fields on the dbf must already be
> unique and a max of 10 chars, cos that's all the dbf would allow. Unless the
> dbf is non-standard and was created using something other than the usual
> packages. In which case you may be right. Certainly worth a look Darren.
> Alternatively have you tried the other similar import types to dBase IV,
> like 'dbase III', 'dbase 5.0' and all the Foxpro versions?
> 
> --
> Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> 
> 
> 
> --------- Original Message --------
> From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Transfer Database
> Date: 06/04/04 08:44
> 
> >
> > Darren,
> > try taking a look at the first ten characters of the DBase IV table fields
> you are trying to import (i.e. you may have something like StudentsID1 and
> StudentsID2 if you look at the first ten characters you will only have
> StudentsID) for some reason when trying to Export/Import DBase IV tables it
> only reads the first ten characters.  Make sure the first ten characters in
> your fields are different and then you should be ok.
> > Paul
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Message date : Apr 06 2004, 06:01 AM
> > &gt;From : &quot;Darren DICK&quot;
> > To : &quot;AccessD List&quot;
> > Copy to :
> > Subject : [AccessD] A2K: Transfer Database
> > hello all
> > can anyone tell me why the acLink version of transfer database
> > below works but the import version fails? Along with the error message
> > &quot;Cannot define Field more than once&quot;
> > I have tried every combination I can think of in relation to the dbf file
> name location etc.
> > No joy and the help is useless
> >
> > 'This one works fine
> > DoCmd.TransferDatabase acLink, &quot;dBase IV&quot;, &quot;C:&quot;,
> acTable, &quot;C:SIDS.dbf&quot;, &quot;tblStudents&quot;, False
> > 'This one fails
> > DoCmd.TransferDatabase acImport, &quot;dBase IV&quot;, &quot;C:&quot;,
> acTable, &quot;C:SIDS.dbf&quot;, &quot;tblStudents&quot;, False
> >
> > many thanks
> >
> > Drren
> >
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr  6 18:06:47 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 19:06:47 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <OF6CE64ACF.5ACC1622-ONCA256E6E.007BA3BC-CA256E6E.007D573A@mlc.com.au>
Message-ID: <20040406230707.HUEZ1775.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

 
Open source does not mean free of cost.  Nor does it always mean free of
licence fees.

====Right, I understand that and I don't mean to confuse the issue, but
sharing intellectual property in this way is an odd concept to me. 

Susan H. 



From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Tue Apr  6 18:09:15 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 19:09:15 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <20040406221838.PADI1715.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <s072f020.079@cbc.ca>
Message-ID: <4073005B.31158.5C86F3@localhost>

On 6 Apr 2004 at 18:18, Susan Harkins wrote:

> That was very good and very close to my own opinions except I just
> don't have the expertise to speak to servers. I think MS will adjust

I don't really have the server experience either. I do, however read 
as much as I can.

> and change as necessary -- but can't really predict what that will
> mean. 

I don't think anyone can. And it probably scares the bejebes out of 
MS.

> My question is this -- if they're all giving it up for free -- how are
> they going to make money and stay in business. Support? Is there
> really going to be enough support $ to cover it? I wouldn't think so.

There are a couple of ways that the money is made.

1) They sell it. Red Hat is a perfect example. The sell boxed sets, 
well they used to. They sell server versions of Linux.

2) Selling support. Red Hat again. They sell support along with the 
boxed sets.

3) Donations. Not a get rich quick scheme, I know, but for some 
enough to get by.

Keep in mind that just because the software is open source, doesn't 
mean you can't charge for the product. You can, but you may have to 
make the source code available, depending on the license agreement.

> Anybody using MySQL and paying for the support? I absolutely hate
> using MySQL, but I wouldn't pay for support. There's got to be part of
> the puzzle that I'm missing. 

Why do you hate it? Is it because you are not used to it? Or you 
don't under stand it? Or there is no GUI for it?

There are tons of folks paying for support for MySQL and other open 
source dbs. Folks like Cox Communications, NASA, Sabre Holdings and 
Yahoo! probably do. Have a look at 
http://www.mysql.com/press/release_2004_10.html and 
http://www.mysql.com/feedback/whitepaper-tco.php (registration 
required. Free I think)

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to 
build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe 
producing bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. -
 Mark Mischler.




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr  6 18:21:58 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 19:21:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <4073005B.31158.5C86F3@localhost>
Message-ID: <20040406232218.DXHV1763.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>


1) They sell it. Red Hat is a perfect example. The sell boxed sets, well
they used to. They sell server versions of Linux.

2) Selling support. Red Hat again. They sell support along with the boxed
sets.

3) Donations. Not a get rich quick scheme, I know, but for some enough to
get by.

========Can't imagine this creating huge corporations -- but I'm wrong a
lot. ;) 


> Anybody using MySQL and paying for the support? I absolutely hate 
> using MySQL, but I wouldn't pay for support. There's got to be part of 
> the puzzle that I'm missing.

Why do you hate it? Is it because you are not used to it? Or you don't under
stand it? Or there is no GUI for it?

=========All of the above. The documentation is some of the worst around --
it use to be. MS is rather dry, cryptic, and even sometimes wrong, but you
can understand it. I could barely read through the MySQL documentation. Mind
you it's been a few years so they've probably improved things a lot as
they've grown (I would hope). Just personal experience though -- I don't
like to work so hard. :) 

Susan H. 



From serbach at new.rr.com  Tue Apr  6 18:25:48 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 18:25:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file
Message-ID: <20040406182548.1912343902.serbach@new.rr.com>

Brett,

>> I followed Drew's suggestion a while back, and picked up a copy of Remote
Administrator (www.radmin.com). ?$35 covers the license for 2 machines. ?No
monthly charges. ?No headaches. ?Works for us! <<

I have to admit that I like GoToMyPC for one reason: I can log in from any PC with a browser. I used my 133 MHz 32 MB laptop running Win 95 on Monday at one client's site and I used a Win XP w/s at another client's site today. I had left my host PC in 800 x 600 mode when I left the office. When I fired up GoToMyPC I tried changing the screen resolution while connected...and voila! I switched to 1152 x 864 (my normal resolution). Then I viewed the GoToMyPC window in full screen mode and the only way I could tell I wasn't sitting at my PC was that the color depth is reduced to 8-bit color, so my company logo looked a bit blotchy, and there's the little shade pull thingie hovering at the very top of the screen to remind me where the GoToMyPC menu is.

I particularly like tha drawing feature. Pretty snazzy, I calls it.

Yeah, $15 a month is a bit much...but logging in from ANYWHERE with ANY PC is pretty durn convenient.

Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504
 
"If you can't say anything nice, run for President." - Argus Hamilton



From rjhjr at cox.net  Tue Apr  6 18:31:00 2004
From: rjhjr at cox.net (Bob Hall)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 19:31:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <20040406145847.NMC1781.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <20040406145847.NMC1781.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <20040406233058.GA38785@kongemord.krig.net>

On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 10:58:25AM -0400, Susan Harkins wrote:
> Someone has asked me "What's in the future for Microsoft and the Open Source
> movement? "


Susan,

It's not a question of whether MS offers open source code. It's a question of how they offer it.

Microsoft's Knowledge Base contains gobs and gobs of free, open source code. Lots of independent developers offer free, open source code. Microsoft wouldn't be able to sell as many copies of Access if there weren't so much free, open source VBA code available. Free open source code is part of Microsoft's business model. 

Open source and proprietary code have always existed side by side, usually without conflict. PHP is an open source scripting language; if you use it on Windows, it was probably compiled on a Microsoft compiler. Unix was originally both proprietary and open source; you couldn't legally posses a copy of the source code without buying a license, but the system was distributed as source code. Sun OS was originally based on BSD. When the name changed to Soleris, it became more System V-like. Either way, it was based on open source code. The TCP/IP stack in every Windows system since Win2K contains mostly FreeBSD code. The TCP/IP stack in NT 4 and earlier was notoriously unreliable. MS ended up replacing it with code that was known to work reliably and was available free.

MS won't change its current business model because it makes too much money from the current model. As long as it is primarily a seller of proprietary systems to people who aren't programmers, it has no incentive to offer open source applications. Even if it starts losing market share, it still won't switch unless it goes through an IBM-like transformation and becomes primarily a provider of services. 

I know of only two cases where completely closed code became open code. Netscape didn't have the resources to do the development of a new version of Netscape Navigator, so it created the Mozilla project and based the new Navigator on Mozilla. Borland split off Interbase, which became Firebird. I'm not really sure why they did it, except that perhaps they thought it would be more valuable as a separate company than it had ever been to Borland. 

I wouldn't trust any TCO study distributed by MS. They hire "independent" analysts to do the studies, but the studies are so blatently biased that they are worthless. Basically, the issue is long-term savings versus the short term costs of switching. Since long-term savings have to be discounted over time, and the short-term costs are unpredictable, most businesses aren't going to see an advantage to switching any time soon. 

Adding to Bryan Carbonnell's comments:

You can get Linux distros that will run off a CD. That means that you insert the CD, reboot the computer, and you're running Linux. If you like it, it will install on your computer configured exactly as it is on the CD. It's even easier than a Windows install. All the decisions: desktop, window manager, etc., are made for you. Drivers are installed automatically. If you're a Linux geek, you can still make any changes you want, but the non-geeks don't need to know anything to do the installation. I tried it; it worked.

Linux will never have a standard GUI, because Linux is really only the kernal. Linus Torvalds doesn't do shell or GUI development. All Linux distros that I know of are Linux kernals with the Gnu shell. Everything else is whatever the distro teams want to include. They're never going to agree on a default window manager. On the other hand, a corporate buyer can specify that all installations use a given window manager and desktop.

The immediate threat to MS has been security problems, due to massive numbers of bugs. MS seems to have improved a lot since Gates sent out his famous security e-mail. The three OSs gaining market share right now are Win, Linux, and FreeBSD. These are systems designed to run on cheap Intel chips. The losers are systems designed to run on proprietary chips. Linux and Win are stealing market share from Soleris, not from each other. This may be changing in Europe, where governments are starting to switch to Linux for workstations. The sole reason for switchng seems to be the cost of licenses for thousands of seats. So I would say that Linux is a threat to Windows in the workstation market, not the server market.

Bob Hall


From rjhjr at cox.net  Tue Apr  6 18:36:51 2004
From: rjhjr at cox.net (Bob Hall)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 19:36:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <20040406232218.DXHV1763.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <4073005B.31158.5C86F3@localhost>
	<20040406232218.DXHV1763.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <20040406233650.GB38785@kongemord.krig.net>

On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 07:21:58PM -0400, Susan Harkins wrote:
> =========All of the above. The documentation is some of the worst around --
> it use to be. MS is rather dry, cryptic, and even sometimes wrong, but you
> can understand it. I could barely read through the MySQL documentation. Mind
> you it's been a few years so they've probably improved things a lot as
> they've grown (I would hope). Just personal experience though -- I don't
> like to work so hard. :) 

The documentation at the MySQL web site is intended to be the concise up-to-date reference documentation. Aside from the tutorial, it is intended for people who are already experienced with MySQL and need an answer to a specific question. If you need user-friendly documentation, buy "MySQL" by Paul DuBois. I can't recommend it enough.

Bob Hall


From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr  6 18:41:30 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 19:41:30 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <20040406233650.GB38785@kongemord.krig.net>
Message-ID: <20040406234150.ILUW1775.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

 If you need user-friendly documentation, buy "MySQL" by Paul DuBois. I
can't recommend it enough.

=======Already have it. :) 

Susan H. 



From my.lists at verizon.net  Tue Apr  6 18:41:56 2004
From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 16:41:56 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <20040406232218.DXHV1763.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <20040406232218.DXHV1763.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <40734044.4010008@verizon.net>

Susan Harkins said the following on 4/6/2004 4:21 PM:

>=========All of the above. The documentation is some of the worst around --
>it use to be. MS is rather dry, cryptic, and even sometimes wrong, but you
>can understand it. I could barely read through the MySQL documentation. Mind
>you it's been a few years so they've probably improved things a lot as
>they've grown (I would hope). Just personal experience though -- I don't
>like to work so hard. :) 
>  
>
IF... it's been a few years since you've used/played w/ the 
documentation how can you declare that "

The documentation is some of the worst around".  MySql has had a close connectiong w/ Linux and thus their documentation has many examples w/ *nix syntax.  And if a documentation is wrong, how is it better? :)

I just visited MySql.com and found their available manual.  skimming through a chapter it all reads straight forward.  However I will say this... they are distributing it in PDF and HTML, and the PDF is no BOL :), however If you just do a search on their site for keywords on things you need say.. "CREATE TABLE" then you get all the proper syntax in a very much BOL type fashion except it's ONLINE not offline, and by skimming their documentation page it looks like you can d/l that as well, tho I don't know if searching is available locally.



-- 
-Francisco




From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Tue Apr  6 18:50:59 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 09:50:59 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Another Trasnfer Database Q
Message-ID: <009501c41c32$030331a0$48619a89@DDICK>

Hello all
When I try to import or link to a DBF or XLS file in the root directory all is well.
When I move the dbf or XLS file to ANY dorectory/folder the import or link fails.
Access spits up a long error message with Error Number
Saying that the path is invalid. That I should go and check that it exists etc.
Of course it exists I just created it for testing as well as using pre-existing directories.
The Docmd.Transfer works - why would it fail when I use a folde?
Yes I have tried quotes around the path and xls specs

Any taker?

Many thanks in advance

Darren



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr  6 18:54:48 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 19:54:48 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <40734044.4010008@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <20040406235508.ISFT1775.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>


The documentation is some of the worst around".  MySql has had a close
connectiong w/ Linux and thus their documentation has many examples w/ *nix
syntax.  And if a documentation is wrong, how is it better? :)

========If you go to a bad dentist, do you go back? Does someone blame you
for not going back a few years later, "Geez... Wow, he's better now, you
should give him another try?" No way. :) If MySQL lost me just on the lack
of a decent interface and sloppy documentation, I'm betting I'm not the only
one. Granted, I am lazier than most of you and will dump something faster
than most here -- but you guys are unique -- you guys LIKE pain. :) If I'm
not working, I'm not making money, so I don't spend a lot of time with stuff
that makes working too hard. 

Lexie came home from Walmart this afternoon with her Pa Pa -- they had a new
milkshake maker. It took scissors, grunt power, and a swig of boubon from
the freezer just to get the thing out of the package. Then, I had words with
the Pa Pa about disappearing once the package came in the door. I feel that
way about MySQL. :) That's exactly my problem with MySQL -- well, a while
ago. 

I just visited MySql.com and found their available manual.  skimming through
a chapter it all reads straight forward.  However I will say this... they
are distributing it in PDF and HTML, and the PDF is no BOL :), however If
you just do a search on their site for keywords on things you need say..
"CREATE TABLE" then you get all the proper syntax in a very much BOL type
fashion except it's ONLINE not offline, and by skimming their documentation
page it looks like you can d/l that as well, tho I don't know if searching
is available locally.

========My main complaint was organization. Even with the search
capabilities (OK, everyone already knows I'm search challenged), I found it
difficult to find what I was looking for. Invariably it would involve
reading much more than I really should've had to read. Now, you can blame me
and call me names if you like, but that's not good documentation. But then,
I don't like MS either. I can find something on microsoft's site with google
faster than I can with a Microsoft search. Go figure. ;) But then, that's
why I have a job. Some day I'm going to plug Donna's brain into my computer
-- then I'll be able to find everything and you'll all be sorry! ;) 

Susan H. 



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Apr  6 19:25:12 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 17:25:12 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Another Trasnfer Database Q
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312715@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Are you deleting the link before you try to relink?  I would expect it
to fail if you moved the file *anywhere*.  That's just the way Access
links work.  Are you using the entire path and filename in the filename
argument?

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Darren DICK [mailto:d.dick at uws.edu.au] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 3:51 PM
To: AccessD List
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Another Trasnfer Database Q


Hello all
When I try to import or link to a DBF or XLS file in the root directory
all is well. When I move the dbf or XLS file to ANY dorectory/folder the
import or link fails. Access spits up a long error message with Error
Number Saying that the path is invalid. That I should go and check that
it exists etc. Of course it exists I just created it for testing as well
as using pre-existing directories. The Docmd.Transfer works - why would
it fail when I use a folde? Yes I have tried quotes around the path and
xls specs

Any taker?

Many thanks in advance

Darren

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Apr  6 20:19:55 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 21:19:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <4073B26F.4145.132DAB@localhost>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPGEGBHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Holy smoke batman.  What a read!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 5:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: open source


On 6 Apr 2004 at 10:58, Susan Harkins wrote:

> Someone has asked me "What's in the future for Microsoft and the Open
Source
> movement? "
>
> It's such a huge topic I couldn't really answer -- it's going to take me a
> few days to formulate a response. It is a tad off topic for a strictly
> Access list -- and I don't want any MS bashing, just because that would be
> even more off topic -- but anyone want to make a comment on the subject?
I'd
> love to hear them -- my initial response to the guy was "Resistance is
> futile" but that's only really funny if you're saying it from the MS
> perspective. ;)
>

I think that Peruvian Congressmen Edgar Villanueva Nu?ez summed up
the arguments fairly well:

http://www.opensource.org/docs/peru_and_ms.php
--
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http://www.lexacorp.com.pg
Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System
Support.



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From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Tue Apr  6 21:21:11 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 22:21:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <20040406230707.HUEZ1775.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <OF6CE64ACF.5ACC1622-ONCA256E6E.007BA3BC-CA256E6E.007D573A@mlc.com.au>
Message-ID: <40732D57.2466.11B1B7@localhost>

On 6 Apr 2004 at 19:06, Susan Harkins wrote:

> ====Right, I understand that and I don't mean to confuse the issue,
> but sharing intellectual property in this way is an odd concept to me.

What part is odd? 

We freely share our intelectual property here everyday.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
An unkind remark is like a killing frost. No matter how much it warms 
up later, the damage remains.




From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Tue Apr  6 21:21:10 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 22:21:10 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <40733489.2040700@verizon.net>
References: <s072f020.079@cbc.ca>
Message-ID: <40732D56.16589.11B167@localhost>

On 6 Apr 2004 at 15:51, Francisco H Tapia wrote:

> which the various distros have improved their desktop products.  I
> also must concur that a standardized GUI would be the killer blow that
> would/will ultimately drive hords of users away from Microsoft.  I

I actually don't think that a standard GUI alone will push people 
away from MS. It *has* to be packaged with more user friendlyness. 
I'm no dummy, but there are days that make me go "Why the <insert 
expletive> did I ever think looking at Linux was a good idea" Just 
because of the way Slackware based distros are different from RedHat 
based distros which are different from Debian based distros.

> base my opinion off such distros like RedHat or even the newest one
> I've seen (Knopixx).  Wich is an OS bootable completely off the CD. 

Knoppix is COOL!!!!

> With High end products such as ThunderBird and FireFox and even some
> of the OpenOffice products, Open Source products are reaching maturity
> levels that are acceptable to a wider population.  Some of the

Maturity of the apps is what will make Open Source software more 
viable in the long run. If it can compete feature for feature with 
the MS version, or at least the features needed, why drop the cash on 
the MS version?

> A greater risk than vulnerabilities in MS software is not so much the
> security holes, but the COST of the software.  You have many college
> students that simply can't afford to go w/ MS Office so they use
> OpenOffice.  While not all do, the trend is steadily climing, and w/
> the avalability getting better and the quaility reaching acceptace
> from the general public, this will help push more OpenSource software
> into the main stream.

I think that cost will play a part, I don't think that it will play a 
large part overall. Now, I'm talking about corporate acceptance and 
not home use. 

For the home user, I think that it will start to play a part in the 
decision making, more than it would a corporate IT department.

And that is one of the imortant distinctions that needs to be made. 
Home users will look at the out of pocket costs. Corporate users will 
look at the overall costs and the availability of Enterprise level 
software.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a 
horrible warning.




From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Tue Apr  6 21:31:21 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 22:31:21 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <20040406232218.DXHV1763.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <4073005B.31158.5C86F3@localhost>
Message-ID: <40732FB9.25964.1B0413@localhost>

On 6 Apr 2004 at 19:21, Susan Harkins wrote:

> ========Can't imagine this creating huge corporations -- but I'm wrong
> a lot. ;) 

Red Hat is making money. According to their website they have $328 
million in the bank.

Suse was just bought for $210 million, and they are the #2 Linux 
distro.

Not on the same level as MS, but not bad for companies that are less 
than 10 years old.



> > Why do you hate it? Is it because you are not used to it? Or you don't
> > under stand it? Or there is no GUI for it?

> =========All of the above. The documentation is some of the worst
> around -- it use to be. MS is rather dry, cryptic, and even sometimes
> wrong, but you can understand it. I could barely read through the
> MySQL documentation. Mind you it's been a few years so they've
> probably improved things a lot as they've grown (I would hope). Just
> personal experience though -- I don't like to work so hard. :) 

I actually don't find their docs that bad. I actually use them as a 
SQL reference. How to structure the specific parts of a SQL 
statement.

As for the GUI, they have recently released a GUI that is better than 
anything that has come before it for working with MySQL. Plus you can 
always work with it using Access :)

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
I don't approve of political jokes. I've seen too many of them get 
elected.




From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Tue Apr  6 21:36:26 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 22:36:26 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <s072f020.079@cbc.ca>
Message-ID: <407330EA.19233.1FAA39@localhost>

On 6 Apr 2004 at 17:46, Bryan Carbonnell wrote:

> Will MS need to make their stuff Open Source to survive? I don't think
> so. Will MS Open Source their software anyway? I really doubt it.
> Maybe bits and pieces, but the whole thing, No way. Will MS
> incorporate Open Source into their software? As far as I understand,

No sooner do I say they probably won't, I find out they went ahead 
and did <sigh>

http://news.com.com/2100-7344_3-5185549.html?tag=nefd.top

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
Ability is what you're capable of doing.
Motivation determines what you do.
Attitude determines how well you do it.




From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Tue Apr  6 21:46:34 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 22:46:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <20040406233058.GA38785@kongemord.krig.net>
References: <20040406145847.NMC1781.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <4073334A.9454.28F0F8@localhost>

On 6 Apr 2004 at 19:31, Bob Hall wrote:

> Linux will never have a standard GUI, because Linux is really only the
> kernal. Linus Torvalds doesn't do shell or GUI development. All Linux

True enough. I guess I should have said that the various Linux 
Distros need to standardise on a desktop. KDE or Gnome.

> Everything else is whatever the distro teams want to include. They're
> never going to agree on a default window manager. On the other hand, a

>From what I understand the windows manager doesn't need to be 
standardised, ithe the desktop environment.

There is the XServer, then there is the windows manager and then 
finally the desktop environment.

> The immediate threat to MS has been security problems, due to massive
> numbers of bugs. MS seems to have improved a lot since Gates sent out
> his famous security e-mail. The three OSs gaining market share right

I actually don't think that security is high on most peoples list. 
Otherwise why is my Win2K desktop at work only approved to be at SP1? 
I have said screw it and installed SP4 myself.

> seats. So I would say that Linux is a threat to Windows in the
> workstation market, not the server market.

The problem is that Linux is not making the inroads on the desktop, 
but in the server room right now.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
I can only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow 
is not looking good either.




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr  6 21:52:19 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 22:52:19 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <40732D57.2466.11B1B7@localhost>
Message-ID: <20040407025239.GWBY1763.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Do you make your living from this list? If all of your clients or your boss
suddenly said "Keep it up, you're doing great, but btw, you're working for
free now, aren't you?" Or, how about, "And show this new guy everything you
know so we don't need you anymore." -- would that be OK?

Susan H. 

On 6 Apr 2004 at 19:06, Susan Harkins wrote:

> ====Right, I understand that and I don't mean to confuse the issue, 
> but sharing intellectual property in this way is an odd concept to me.

What part is odd? 

We freely share our intelectual property here everyday.



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr  6 21:53:50 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 22:53:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <40732FB9.25964.1B0413@localhost>
Message-ID: <20040407025410.GWLR1763.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Red Hat is making money. According to their website they have $328 million
in the bank.

Suse was just bought for $210 million, and they are the #2 Linux distro.

Not on the same level as MS, but not bad for companies that are less than 10
years old.

================No, certainly -- I'd have no trouble taking that check to
the bank. :) 

Susan H. 



From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Tue Apr  6 21:58:45 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 12:58:45 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Another Trasnfer Database Q
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312715@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <00d601c41c4c$3e2dd5e0$48619a89@DDICK>

Hi Charlotte
Yes I am deleting the link before I start using Docmd.DeleteObject blah blah

Re the file being moved any where, I can move the file anywhere and 'redo' the 
link using the new path, so long as the path is in the root directory (C:\)
IE I can change the name of the file from SIDS.dbf to S_ids.dbf or whatever, but it must 
stay in the root directory. If I move it to "any" directory other than the root directory (C:\) it fails
eg C:\ABC\SIDS.dbf <sigh> I dunno


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:25 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: Another Trasnfer Database Q


> Are you deleting the link before you try to relink?  I would expect it
> to fail if you moved the file *anywhere*.  That's just the way Access
> links work.  Are you using the entire path and filename in the filename
> argument?
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darren DICK [mailto:d.dick at uws.edu.au] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 3:51 PM
> To: AccessD List
> Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Another Trasnfer Database Q
> 
> 
> Hello all
> When I try to import or link to a DBF or XLS file in the root directory
> all is well. When I move the dbf or XLS file to ANY dorectory/folder the
> import or link fails. Access spits up a long error message with Error
> Number Saying that the path is invalid. That I should go and check that
> it exists etc. Of course it exists I just created it for testing as well
> as using pre-existing directories. The Docmd.Transfer works - why would
> it fail when I use a folde? Yes I have tried quotes around the path and
> xls specs
> 
> Any taker?
> 
> Many thanks in advance
> 
> Darren
> 
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From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Tue Apr  6 22:03:29 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 23:03:29 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <20040407025239.GWBY1763.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <40732D57.2466.11B1B7@localhost>
Message-ID: <40733741.18413.386F7E@localhost>

On 6 Apr 2004 at 22:52, Susan Harkins wrote:

> Do you make your living from this list? If all of your clients or your
> boss suddenly said "Keep it up, you're doing great, but btw, you're
> working for free now, aren't you?" Or, how about, "And show this new
> guy everything you know so we don't need you anymore." -- would that
> be OK?

Yea, but the thing is, open source doesn't HAVE to be free, as in no 
cost, but free as in source code availability.

I think that is part that is the hard part to understand, or at least 
grasp.

Free doesn't necissicarily mean no cost.

Here is a page that may help sort things out.
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html

If not, then there are a ton of links here:
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
When everything is coming your way......you're in the wrong lane.




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr  6 22:13:06 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 23:13:06 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <40733741.18413.386F7E@localhost>
Message-ID: <20040407031326.HBWR1763.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>


Yea, but the thing is, open source doesn't HAVE to be free, as in no cost,
but free as in source code availability.

I think that is part that is the hard part to understand, or at least grasp.

Free doesn't necissicarily mean no cost.

=============Perhaps I do make too much of it -- you could be right. It's
hard to apply it to my own work -- it doesn't really relate. 

I'll repeat myself -- sometimes that helps. :) I pay the hair guy $75 to
color my gray hair. I pay it because he's good -- hair looks natural and
healthy. He doesn't sell me the coloring and give me instructions so I can
do it myself. Now, I realize that doesn't really relate in the same way, but
it's the best I can come up with. :) 

Susan H. 



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Apr  7 00:03:23 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 01:03:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] How do I
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPEEGDHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Having a bit of a problem tonight.

Given #5/11/2000 3:20:00 PM#

How do I get rid of the date portion and return just the time?

I tried subtracting the clng(ThatDate) from the whole... sometimes worked
but sometimes gave me bad time (but never any date portion)

I tried dateadd("d",-clng(ThatDate),ThatDate)... That always gives me the
correct time but 12/29/1899 as the date portion if the time is in the PM.

I have a bunch of times that include the date and I need to strip the date
off the time.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Apr  7 00:06:09 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 15:06:09 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <20040407025239.GWBY1763.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <40732D57.2466.11B1B7@localhost>
Message-ID: <407418E1.3626.1A35D4C@localhost>

On 6 Apr 2004 at 22:52, Susan Harkins wrote:

> If all of your clients or your boss
> suddenly said "Keep it up, you're doing great, but btw, you're working for
> free now, aren't you?" 

No.  I charge for my time in developing/supporting software. They can 
find someone cheaper than me, but they won't find anyone better than 
me at what I do and they know it. So they are quite happy to pay for 
my services although there is nothing "secret" about what I am doing. 
 
> Or, how about, "And show this new guy everything you
> know so we don't need you anymore." -- would that be OK?
> 

Yep, not a problem. It took me 20 years to learn. In 20 years time, 
I'll be more than ready to hand over the reins to him. In the 
meantime, my clients pay me for that experience.

I also make sure that my clients have the source for anything I 
develop.  If anything happens to me, they can get someone else to 
maintain/continue to develop it.   Until that something happens, they 
keep me maintaining/developing it because of the skills I have.

If I went the MS way, what would my clients do if I was hit by a bus 
tomorrow?

 
-- 
Lexacorp Ltd
http://www.lexacorp.com.pg
Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System 
Support.





From michael.mattys at adelphia.net  Wed Apr  7 00:13:13 2004
From: michael.mattys at adelphia.net (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 01:13:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] How do I
References: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPEEGDHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <009001c41c5f$07e62290$6401a8c0@default>

Hi John,

If it weren't for those # #'s, I'd say
Format("5/11/2000 3:20:00 PM","Long Time")

----

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(724) 942-3437

Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "AccessD" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:03 AM
Subject: [AccessD] How do I


> Having a bit of a problem tonight.
>
> Given #5/11/2000 3:20:00 PM#
>
> How do I get rid of the date portion and return just the time?
>
> I tried subtracting the clng(ThatDate) from the whole... sometimes worked
> but sometimes gave me bad time (but never any date portion)
>
> I tried dateadd("d",-clng(ThatDate),ThatDate)... That always gives me the
> correct time but 12/29/1899 as the date portion if the time is in the PM.
>
> I have a bunch of times that include the date and I need to strip the date
> off the time.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>
> -- 
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> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Apr  7 00:21:19 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 15:21:19 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] How do I
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPEEGDHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <40741C6F.7060.1B13EF3@localhost>

On 7 Apr 2004 at 1:03, John W. Colby wrote:

> Having a bit of a problem tonight.
> 
> Given #5/11/2000 3:20:00 PM#
> 
> How do I get rid of the date portion and return just the time?
> 

CLng rounds rather than truncates so 
myDate - CLng(mydate) will return a negative value if it is after 
midday.

Use Int() instead

myDate - Int(myDate)
retuns the fractional part (ie the time)





 
-- 
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http://www.lexacorp.com.pg
Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support.





From jmhla at earthlink.net  Wed Apr  7 01:25:46 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 23:25:46 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] How do I
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPEEGDHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <001501c41c69$2cf3de60$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

John,

Two thoughts.

1. Can you count back from the right until you find the blank and
isolate the time?

2. Can you convert the current format to a decimal number 12345.12345
and then convert the decimal to time.

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 10:03 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] How do I

Having a bit of a problem tonight.

Given c

How do I get rid of the date portion and return just the time?

I tried subtracting the clng(ThatDate) from the whole... sometimes
worked
but sometimes gave me bad time (but never any date portion)

I tried dateadd("d",-clng(ThatDate),ThatDate)... That always gives me
the
correct time but 12/29/1899 as the date portion if the time is in the
PM.

I have a bunch of times that include the date and I need to strip the
date
off the time.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Wed Apr  7 02:13:43 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 08:13:43 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Another Trasnfer Database Q
In-Reply-To: <00d601c41c4c$3e2dd5e0$48619a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <001001c41c6f$dc3e6240$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Darren
What's the code? Have you tried specifying the folder in the 3rd parameter,
then just the dbf name in the 5th?

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren DICK
> Sent: 07 April 2004 03:59
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Another Trasnfer Database Q
> 
> 
> Hi Charlotte
> Yes I am deleting the link before I start using 
> Docmd.DeleteObject blah blah
> 
> Re the file being moved any where, I can move the file 
> anywhere and 'redo' the 
> link using the new path, so long as the path is in the root 
> directory (C:\) IE I can change the name of the file from 
> SIDS.dbf to S_ids.dbf or whatever, but it must 
> stay in the root directory. If I move it to "any" directory 
> other than the root directory (C:\) it fails eg 
> C:\ABC\SIDS.dbf <sigh> I dunno
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:25 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: Another Trasnfer Database Q
> 
> 
> > Are you deleting the link before you try to relink?  I 
> would expect it 
> > to fail if you moved the file *anywhere*.  That's just the 
> way Access 
> > links work.  Are you using the entire path and filename in the 
> > filename argument?
> > 
> > Charlotte Foust
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Darren DICK [mailto:d.dick at uws.edu.au]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 3:51 PM
> > To: AccessD List
> > Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Another Trasnfer Database Q
> > 
> > 
> > Hello all
> > When I try to import or link to a DBF or XLS file in the root 
> > directory all is well. When I move the dbf or XLS file to ANY 
> > dorectory/folder the import or link fails. Access spits up a long 
> > error message with Error Number Saying that the path is 
> invalid. That 
> > I should go and check that it exists etc. Of course it 
> exists I just 
> > created it for testing as well as using pre-existing 
> directories. The 
> > Docmd.Transfer works - why would it fail when I use a folde? Yes I 
> > have tried quotes around the path and xls specs
> > 
> > Any taker?
> > 
> > Many thanks in advance
> > 
> > Darren
> > 
> > --
> > _______________________________________________
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > -- 
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> 



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Apr  7 06:18:28 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 07:18:28 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] How do I
In-Reply-To: <40741C6F.7060.1B13EF3@localhost>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPEEGEHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Interesting.  I tried that in a query and got #error for values.  I'll look
at it again.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:21 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] How do I


On 7 Apr 2004 at 1:03, John W. Colby wrote:

> Having a bit of a problem tonight.
>
> Given #5/11/2000 3:20:00 PM#
>
> How do I get rid of the date portion and return just the time?
>

CLng rounds rather than truncates so
myDate - CLng(mydate) will return a negative value if it is after
midday.

Use Int() instead

myDate - Int(myDate)
retuns the fractional part (ie the time)






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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Apr  7 06:35:43 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 07:35:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <407418E1.3626.1A35D4C@localhost>
Message-ID: <20040407113603.ZBNV1763.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>


If I went the MS way, what would my clients do if I was hit by a bus
tomorrow?

============That's a good point, but to me, it's kind of like expecting a
chef to give you his recipe. Of course, if the market eventually forces it,
that's OK with me. I'm not against it.

Susan H. 



From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca  Wed Apr  7 06:08:28 2004
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 07:08:28 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
Message-ID: <s073b2ab.082@cbc.ca>

I'm not sure a service can be related to a product, but lt's try :)

The hair dresser charges you $75 to do your hair colouring. He aslo
goes to the local Seniors home and colours the hair of the elderly
ladies there for free because they can't get around as easily as you
can.

He is volunteering his time to do it. Why does he do it when he can use
that time to make more money? He's a nice guy, it was the home that home
that took care of his elderly parents, he want's to look good and using
it as an advertising ploy, it's the right thing to do? Any of these, all
or these none of these? Who knows, but he does it anyway.

Now apply this to software. Why do companies, and people, make their
software open source? They have a philosophical belief that it should be
available, it will help a certain population/sector, it showcases their
other products, it showcases their talents. Any of these, all of these,
none of these? Who knows but it happens.

Why did Lembit donate code to the BEU? Why did Andy and Reuben start to
work on it? Why did I help in the end? I can't speak for the others, but
I did it because I believe that it may help DBA become more visible by
producing a world class product, which will make this be *THE* place to
be, not that it isn't that already :). I also like pushing the limits of
my knowledge and talents, and the BEU certainly did that :) Plus it is
also a tool that can, and has helped, other developers, and I like
helping folks.

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that for every dozen different
open source applications, there are 2 dozen different reasons why the
author(s) decided to make it open source. None are right, none are
worng, they just are.

I don't think that this really captures the point I was going after,
but it's the best I can do to explain it at 6:30 in the morning :)

Bryan Carbonnell
bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca


>>> ssharkins at bellsouth.net 04/06/04 11:13PM >>>

Yea, but the thing is, open source doesn't HAVE to be free, as in no
cost,
but free as in source code availability.

I think that is part that is the hard part to understand, or at least
grasp.

Free doesn't necissicarily mean no cost.

=============Perhaps I do make too much of it -- you could be right.
It's
hard to apply it to my own work -- it doesn't really relate. 

I'll repeat myself -- sometimes that helps. :) I pay the hair guy $75
to
color my gray hair. I pay it because he's good -- hair looks natural
and
healthy. He doesn't sell me the coloring and give me instructions so I
can
do it myself. Now, I realize that doesn't really relate in the same
way, but
it's the best I can come up with. :) 

Susan H. 

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Apr  7 07:36:28 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 08:36:28 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <s073b2ab.082@cbc.ca>
Message-ID: <20040407123648.ROOI1775.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that for every dozen different open
source applications, there are 2 dozen different reasons why the
author(s) decided to make it open source. None are right, none are worng,
they just are.

I don't think that this really captures the point I was going after, but
it's the best I can do to explain it at 6:30 in the morning :)

==========The fact that you're up and able to type is impressive enough. :)
I understand open source within the context you're speaking -- I don't
understand it within a major corporation like MS. But what you're talking
about is really just a natural evolution of freeware/shareware... You guys
offer your stuff because you want to, not because you're forced to. 

As for the hair anology, you're comparing open source to charity, community
good will, or philantropy. Developers have been giving it away for free
since ... since always -- that's nothing new. Competitors and even
governments forcing open source from other major producers isn't the same
thing. I'm talking about the market forces, and government manipulation, at
play right now that are forcing MS to take it all off. :) To me, producers
and governments complaining about MS not going open code is a red herring --
and it's difficult to even apply the same logic to other industries. Even
the recipe analogy doesn't really work -- but most intellectual property is
protected to a degree. The question I guess -- after talking this through is
does code NEED to be protected. I mean, realistically, what would I do with
it even if I had it? :) I guess what concerns me the most about exposing
code is theft -- not so much of the actual code but of the ideas in the
code, but there again, can that really be protected anyway? I don't know.
I've developed a really good chocolate chip cookie recipe using Splenda and
a good butter substitute. If a company took that recipe and turned it into a
best seller and didn't credit or pay me for it, I'd be pis*ed. Hope that
analogy finally makes my position clearer. 

I will readily admit that I simply do not have the expertise to adequately
do it justice, and if it's going to happen, it will. But, as I'm fond of
saying, I don't get it. :) However, as long as whatever happens comes about
through pure market forces, I'm OK with it -- have to be, that's the way it
works. :) 

Susan H. 



From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Apr  7 08:02:20 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 23:02:20 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Another Transfer Database Q SOLVED Answer included
References: <001001c41c6f$dc3e6240$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>
Message-ID: <02e301c41ca0$91018ec0$42669a89@DDICK>

Hi Andy et al
I figured it out phew...
Here is the code if anyone is interested
It allows for a single path to be stored  then you can and import or link to

My.txtControlThatHoldsThePath may have the following as its value
EG C:\My Documents\My Folder\Inane Name\XYZ.dbf

First Create a new module and paste this into it

'determine the last backslash in a path then return file name from that path
'Code by Seth Galitzer
Public Function basParseFileName(strPath As String) As String
     Dim intI As Integer         ' Current starting position
     Dim intL As Integer         ' Last starting position

     intI = InStr(strPath, "\")  ' Initialize the starting position
     While intI > 0              ' Repeat until no more "\" chars
         intL = intI             ' Save the last starting position
         intI = InStr(intI + 1, strPath, "\")    ' Get the next starting position
     Wend

     basParseFileName = Mid(strPath, intL + 1)   ' Chop off the filename
End Function

The in the button you want to perform the import or link  with
Private Sub SomeButton_Click()

Dim intX As Integer
intX = Len(basParseFileName(Me.txtControlThatHoldsThePath))

 DoCmd.TransferDatabase acImport, "dBase IV", Mid(Me.txtControlThatHoldsThePath, 1, Len(Me.txtControlThatHoldsThePath) - intX - 1),
acTable, basParseFileName(Me.txtControlThatHoldsThePath), "tblStudents", False

'The trick is in the "-1" just after the intX parameter in the Transfer Database syntax
'The Transfer database monster wants to see the full folder path in the 3rd parameter minus the actual filename
'and wants to see the file name only in the 5th parameter. So far no problem
'BUT!!! - the trick is Access doesn't wanna see the last backslash either before the file name: Go figure???
'So assume you have a folder and file name like C:\My Documents\My Folder\Inane Name\XYZ.dbf
'Access is working with C:\My Documents\My Folder\Inane NameXYZ.dbf. 'Note the missing last backslash
'Access obviously compensates for it somewhere internally

end sub

Hope this helps someone


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy Lacey" <andy at minstersystems.co.uk>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 5:13 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: Another Trasnfer Database Q


> Darren
> What's the code? Have you tried specifying the folder in the 3rd parameter,
> then just the dbf name in the 5th?
>
> -- Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren DICK
> > Sent: 07 April 2004 03:59
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Another Trasnfer Database Q
> >
> >
> > Hi Charlotte
> > Yes I am deleting the link before I start using
> > Docmd.DeleteObject blah blah
> >
> > Re the file being moved any where, I can move the file
> > anywhere and 'redo' the
> > link using the new path, so long as the path is in the root
> > directory (C:\) IE I can change the name of the file from
> > SIDS.dbf to S_ids.dbf or whatever, but it must
> > stay in the root directory. If I move it to "any" directory
> > other than the root directory (C:\) it fails eg
> > C:\ABC\SIDS.dbf <sigh> I dunno
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:25 AM
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: Another Trasnfer Database Q
> >
> >
> > > Are you deleting the link before you try to relink?  I
> > would expect it
> > > to fail if you moved the file *anywhere*.  That's just the
> > way Access
> > > links work.  Are you using the entire path and filename in the
> > > filename argument?
> > >
> > > Charlotte Foust
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Darren DICK [mailto:d.dick at uws.edu.au]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 3:51 PM
> > > To: AccessD List
> > > Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Another Trasnfer Database Q
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello all
> > > When I try to import or link to a DBF or XLS file in the root
> > > directory all is well. When I move the dbf or XLS file to ANY
> > > dorectory/folder the import or link fails. Access spits up a long
> > > error message with Error Number Saying that the path is
> > invalid. That
> > > I should go and check that it exists etc. Of course it
> > exists I just
> > > created it for testing as well as using pre-existing
> > directories. The
> > > Docmd.Transfer works - why would it fail when I use a folde? Yes I
> > > have tried quotes around the path and xls specs
> > >
> > > Any taker?
> > >
> > > Many thanks in advance
> > >
> > > Darren
> > >
> > > --
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > AccessD mailing list
> > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > -- 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > AccessD mailing list
> > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > -- 
> > _______________________________________________
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd
> > Website:
> > http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> >
>
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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Wed Apr  7 08:05:14 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 09:05:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] How do I
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPEEGDHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKMEAPIPAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

John,

  In terms of the field value, you can't.  Date/Time fields are doubles with
the date/time stored as:

  Date.Time

  Any value to the left of the decimal represents a date and that includes
0, which hands you back the base date of 12/29/1899.

  If you want time alone, you need to store the value in a decimal field or
use a scaled integer and use Time functions to translate it to a time as
needed.

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:03 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] How do I


Having a bit of a problem tonight.

Given #5/11/2000 3:20:00 PM#

How do I get rid of the date portion and return just the time?

I tried subtracting the clng(ThatDate) from the whole... sometimes worked
but sometimes gave me bad time (but never any date portion)

I tried dateadd("d",-clng(ThatDate),ThatDate)... That always gives me the
correct time but 12/29/1899 as the date portion if the time is in the PM.

I have a bunch of times that include the date and I need to strip the date
off the time.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Wed Apr  7 08:06:56 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 09:06:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] How do I
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPEEGDHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKAEBAIPAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

John,

  One thing you can do is continue to use the date/time field, but just
ignore the date (set them all to 0) and use Format$() for displaying the
time only.

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:03 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] How do I


Having a bit of a problem tonight.

Given #5/11/2000 3:20:00 PM#

How do I get rid of the date portion and return just the time?

I tried subtracting the clng(ThatDate) from the whole... sometimes worked
but sometimes gave me bad time (but never any date portion)

I tried dateadd("d",-clng(ThatDate),ThatDate)... That always gives me the
correct time but 12/29/1899 as the date portion if the time is in the PM.

I have a bunch of times that include the date and I need to strip the date
off the time.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


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From pnl1 at psu.edu  Wed Apr  7 08:22:07 2004
From: pnl1 at psu.edu (Paul Liadis)
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 09:22:07 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Query Truncating Data
In-Reply-To: <20040407025410.GWLR1763.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANO
 NE>
References: <40732FB9.25964.1B0413@localhost>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040407091847.03e259d0@mail.psu.edu>

Hello,
I am having a problem with a query in which my data is being truncated to 
255 characters.  My query simply selects from a table (linked from SQL 
Server), but doesn't return all the data in one of the columns (defined as 
memo in Access).  The data is being truncated even though it exists in the 
table.  Has anyone experienced this?

Thanks,

===============================================
Paul Liadis
Senior Applications Programmer/Analyst
University Budget Office
Pennsylvania State University



From ranthony at wrsystems.com  Wed Apr  7 08:33:13 2004
From: ranthony at wrsystems.com (ranthony at wrsystems.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 09:33:13 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Query Truncating Data
Message-ID: <5F21A4E8B8DD734992EF9E70AC9D3064128B5A@mail2.wrsystems.com>

See M$ KB 170218.

A workaround I used in an older program is as follows (this is A97):

'The following lines of code is a workaround provided by MS due to W97
inability to assign the value of a variable containing
    'more than 255 characters.  This is obviously a non-starter, as the
fields indicated are memo fields in Access.
    'The formfield is populated with asterisks as a placemark, the document
then has to be unprotected, then the contents are
    'dumped into the formfield.  After that, the asteriks are deleted, and
the protection for the document is reinstated.
    'The if statement is so this processing effort won't be invoked unless
the field is not null and contains more than 255 characters.
    '
    
    If Not IsNull(Forms!frmstrinput!txtBrief) And
Len(Forms!frmstrinput!txtBrief) > 255 Then
        'set Description form field to a unique string.
        WordObj.Documents(1).FormFields("Description").Result = "****"
        If WordObj.Documents(1).ProtectionType <> wdNoProtection Then
            WordObj.Documents(1).Unprotect Password:="bob"
        End If
        WordObj.Selection.Goto what:=wdGoToBookmark, Name:="Description"
        WordObj.Selection.Collapse
        WordObj.Selection.MoveRight wdCharacter, 1
        WordObj.Selection.TypeText (Forms!frmstrinput!txtBrief)
        WordObj.Selection.Goto wdGoToBookmark, , , "description"
        'Remove unique characters from Description form field
        With WordObj.Selection.Find
            .Execute findtext:="*", replacewith:="", replace:=wdReplaceAll
        End With
        WordObj.Documents(1).Protect Password:="bob", noreset:=True,
Type:=wdAllowOnlyFormFields
    
    Else
        WordObj.Documents(1).FormFields("Description").Result =
IIf(IsNull(Forms!frmstrinput!txtBrief), "", (Forms!frmstrinput!txtBrief))
    End If

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Liadis [mailto:pnl1 at psu.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 9:22 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Query Truncating Data

Hello,
I am having a problem with a query in which my data is being truncated to 
255 characters.  My query simply selects from a table (linked from SQL 
Server), but doesn't return all the data in one of the columns (defined as 
memo in Access).  The data is being truncated even though it exists in the 
table.  Has anyone experienced this?

Thanks,

===============================================
Paul Liadis
Senior Applications Programmer/Analyst
University Budget Office
Pennsylvania State University

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Apr  7 08:56:04 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (martyconnelly at shaw.ca)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 09:56:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Phone number
Message-ID: <200404071356.i37Du0B06129@databaseadvisors.com>


Please notice the attached phone number.


+++ X-Attachment-Type: document
+++ X-Attachment-Status: no virus found
+++ Powered by the new F-Secure OnlineAntiVirus
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From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Wed Apr  7 09:15:46 2004
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 09:15:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Emails Problems
Message-ID: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D55C@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>

Has anyone been receiving strange emails with attachments? I have been
getting emails for the past 2 days with txt attachments. I just received one
that said it was from AccessD.

Virginia


From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Wed Apr  7 09:23:19 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 10:23:19 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Emails Problems
Message-ID: <20040407142319.ULSP19852.tomts15-srv.bellnexxia.net@mxmta.bellnexxia.net>

> From: "Hollis,Virginia" <HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com>

> Has anyone been receiving strange emails with attachments? I have been
> getting emails for the past 2 days with txt attachments. I just received one
> that said it was from AccessD.

The one that just came to the list "from" Marty Connelly appears to have started out life as a virus, but the list software stripped out the payload, so no worries there. 

It looks like it came from someone that uses a Bell South ASDL connection as their ISP. So folks that use Bell South, please run a full virus scan. One of you may be infected with a nasty :(

This is one of the new breed of spoofing e-mails that spoof the from line of the e-mail.

As for the others, probalby the same knid of deal, but you mail server is taking care of the virii before it hits your desktop.

--
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
Unfortunately common sense isn't so common!



From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Wed Apr  7 09:23:33 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 15:23:33 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Emails Problems
In-Reply-To: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D55C@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <002201c41cab$e8d0a630$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Yea, me too. Had one supposedly from JC and another "from" Jim Dettman.
Don't know what's generating them.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Hollis,Virginia
> Sent: 07 April 2004 15:16
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Emails Problems
> 
> 
> Has anyone been receiving strange emails with attachments? I 
> have been getting emails for the past 2 days with txt 
> attachments. I just received one that said it was from AccessD.
> 
> Virginia
> -- 
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> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd
> Website: 
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> 



From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Apr  7 09:26:05 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 00:26:05 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Change Data Type
Message-ID: <031d01c41cac$44219260$42669a89@DDICK>

Hello all
The help wasn't
Can anyone point me in the right direction for code
ADO or DAO
on changing the data type for an existing field in an existing table?

Many thanks

Darren



From ranthony at wrsystems.com  Wed Apr  7 09:27:56 2004
From: ranthony at wrsystems.com (ranthony at wrsystems.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 10:27:56 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Emails Problems
Message-ID: <5F21A4E8B8DD734992EF9E70AC9D3064128B5B@mail2.wrsystems.com>

Concur with Bryan, I've even received emails from my network support address
spoofed!

-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Carbonnell [mailto:carbonnb at sympatico.ca] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:23 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Emails Problems

> From: "Hollis,Virginia" <HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com>

> Has anyone been receiving strange emails with attachments? I have been
> getting emails for the past 2 days with txt attachments. I just received
one
> that said it was from AccessD.

The one that just came to the list "from" Marty Connelly appears to have
started out life as a virus, but the list software stripped out the payload,
so no worries there. 

It looks like it came from someone that uses a Bell South ASDL connection as
their ISP. So folks that use Bell South, please run a full virus scan. One
of you may be infected with a nasty :(

This is one of the new breed of spoofing e-mails that spoof the from line of
the e-mail.

As for the others, probalby the same knid of deal, but you mail server is
taking care of the virii before it hits your desktop.

--
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
Unfortunately common sense isn't so common!

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From EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us  Wed Apr  7 09:58:06 2004
From: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us (Tesiny, Ed)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 10:58:06 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Emails Problems
Message-ID: <FED384E544086A47AAC07C0999BE8D1701E051FE@albmsx2k.rt.oasas.state.ny.us>

It appears mine from Marty has the attachment.

Ed Tesiny
EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us


-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Carbonnell [mailto:carbonnb at sympatico.ca] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:23 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Emails Problems


> From: "Hollis,Virginia" <HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com>

> Has anyone been receiving strange emails with attachments? I have been
> getting emails for the past 2 days with txt attachments. I just
received one
> that said it was from AccessD.

The one that just came to the list "from" Marty Connelly appears to have
started out life as a virus, but the list software stripped out the
payload, so no worries there. 

It looks like it came from someone that uses a Bell South ASDL
connection as their ISP. So folks that use Bell South, please run a full
virus scan. One of you may be infected with a nasty :(

This is one of the new breed of spoofing e-mails that spoof the from
line of the e-mail.

As for the others, probalby the same knid of deal, but you mail server
is taking care of the virii before it hits your desktop.

--
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
Unfortunately common sense isn't so common!

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From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca  Wed Apr  7 10:05:29 2004
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 11:05:29 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Emails Problems
Message-ID: <s073e087.034@cbc.ca>

The attachment is just the AccessD list footer and not the virus.

Bryan Carbonnell
bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca


>>> EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us 07-Apr-04 10:58:06 AM >>>
It appears mine from Marty has the attachment.

Ed Tesiny
EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us


-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Carbonnell [mailto:carbonnb at sympatico.ca] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:23 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Emails Problems


> From: "Hollis,Virginia" <HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com>

> Has anyone been receiving strange emails with attachments? I have
been
> getting emails for the past 2 days with txt attachments. I just
received one
> that said it was from AccessD.

The one that just came to the list "from" Marty Connelly appears to
have
started out life as a virus, but the list software stripped out the
payload, so no worries there. 

It looks like it came from someone that uses a Bell South ASDL
connection as their ISP. So folks that use Bell South, please run a
full
virus scan. One of you may be infected with a nasty :(

This is one of the new breed of spoofing e-mails that spoof the from
line of the e-mail.

As for the others, probalby the same knid of deal, but you mail server
is taking care of the virii before it hits your desktop.



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Apr  7 10:10:47 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 08:10:47 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Another Trasnfer Database Q
References: <009501c41c32$030331a0$48619a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <407419F7.5020909@shaw.ca>

Are you missing a comma or parameter in call
Do you have an invalid DOS character in your filename
Are you using WinXP with locked down folders.
Reversed slashes?
should look like.
DoCmd.TransferSpreadsheet acImport, 3, 
"Employees","C:\Lotus\Newemps.wk3", True, "A1:G12"


Darren DICK wrote:

>Hello all
>When I try to import or link to a DBF or XLS file in the root directory all is well.
>When I move the dbf or XLS file to ANY dorectory/folder the import or link fails.
>Access spits up a long error message with Error Number
>Saying that the path is invalid. That I should go and check that it exists etc.
>Of course it exists I just created it for testing as well as using pre-existing directories.
>The Docmd.Transfer works - why would it fail when I use a folde?
>Yes I have tried quotes around the path and xls specs
>
>Any taker?
>
>Many thanks in advance
>
>Darren
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From my.lists at verizon.net  Wed Apr  7 10:35:15 2004
From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia)
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 08:35:15 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Emails Problems
In-Reply-To: <s073e087.034@cbc.ca>
References: <s073e087.034@cbc.ca>
Message-ID: <40741FB3.703@verizon.net>

For those of you w/ AV scanners make sure you've upgraded to the latest 
and greatest definition files, if you need to run an ONLINE scan I suggest
(TrendMicro) HTTP://www.antivirus.com

For those of you w/ outdated AV scanners who need to scan right now or 
are looking to not pay for your home pc's here is an alternative.
(AVAST, FREE)HTTP://www.avast.com/i_idt_1016.html



Bryan Carbonnell said the following on 4/7/2004 8:05 AM:

>The one that just came to the list "from" Marty Connelly appears to
>have
>started out life as a virus, but the list software stripped out the
>payload, so no worries there. 
>
>It looks like it came from someone that uses a Bell South ASDL
>connection as their ISP. So folks that use Bell South, please run a
>full
>virus scan. One of you may be infected with a nasty :(
>
>This is one of the new breed of spoofing e-mails that spoof the from
>line of the e-mail.
>
>As for the others, probalby the same knid of deal, but you mail server
>is taking care of the virii before it hits your desktop.
>
>  
>


-- 
-Francisco




From rjhjr at cox.net  Wed Apr  7 11:12:35 2004
From: rjhjr at cox.net (Bob Hall)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 12:12:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <4073334A.9454.28F0F8@localhost>
References: <20040406145847.NMC1781.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
	<4073334A.9454.28F0F8@localhost>
Message-ID: <20040407161234.GE40799@kongemord.krig.net>

On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 10:46:34PM -0400, Bryan Carbonnell wrote:
> On 6 Apr 2004 at 19:31, Bob Hall wrote:
> 
> > Linux will never have a standard GUI, because Linux is really only the
> > kernal. Linus Torvalds doesn't do shell or GUI development. All Linux
> 
> True enough. I guess I should have said that the various Linux 
> Distros need to standardise on a desktop. KDE or Gnome.
> 
> > Everything else is whatever the distro teams want to include. They're
> > never going to agree on a default window manager. On the other hand, a
> 
> >From what I understand the windows manager doesn't need to be 
> standardised, ithe the desktop environment.
> 
> There is the XServer, then there is the windows manager and then 
> finally the desktop environment.

twm, blackbox, and fvwm don't use desktop environments. Some window managers require a specific desktop environment. You can't decide on a desktop until you decide on the window manager. I use blackbox, so the desktop decision doesn't seem important to me. There are a lot of differences between window managers. Window Maker is very different from blackbox.

Actually, window managers and desktops seem to run side-by-side, rather than one running under the other. 

> > The immediate threat to MS has been security problems, due to massive
> > numbers of bugs. MS seems to have improved a lot since Gates sent out
> > his famous security e-mail. The three OSs gaining market share right
> 
> I actually don't think that security is high on most peoples list. 
> Otherwise why is my Win2K desktop at work only approved to be at SP1? 
> I have said screw it and installed SP4 myself.

This is true for workstations. Security is a bigger issue with servers than workstations. Breaking root on a server puts more at risk that a trapdoor on a workstation. And the person managing a server box is more likely to understand security than the person using a workstation.

The amazing thing is that people with SP1 think they are secure. (I just upgraded someone from SP1.) And if they were on Linux, they would be equally insecure, and just as certain that they were secure. So if they switched to Linux for security reasons, they would be deluding themselves. But a lot of organizations would do it if the market started to perceive Windows as the insecure system, which is what was starting to happen. The people who understood security would have been the first to switch, followed by the people who didn't and who wouldn't have been any more secure.

> > seats. So I would say that Linux is a threat to Windows in the
> > workstation market, not the server market.
> 
> The problem is that Linux is not making the inroads on the desktop, 
> but in the server room right now.

Linux is gaining in the server room, but not at MS's expense. Both Win and Linux are gaining market share. Sun, IBM, and HP are losing it. Critical apps that once needed proprietary chips and OSs can now be run on commodity hardware and cheap or free OSs.

In Europe, Windows has lost to Linux on some huge workstation contracts. That won't happen in the USA anytime soon because the federal government is committed to Windows. But European governments don't have that commitment, and some of them are actively encouraging businesses to switch to Linux. If the governments switch, many businesses and consumers will eventually follow suit. This isn't showing up in market share numbers yet, but it will if the trend continues.

Bob Hall


From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Apr  7 12:02:23 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 13:02:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Wierd AccXP memo happenings.
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA3080733C@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB3F3@ADGSERVER>

Hi all,

I have a query that pulls data from several tables.  Been running well for
years.  I get a call on Monday that it will not print all the way.  So after
some researching, I found out that the report was blowing up when it got to
a certain page.

What was happening is that the data from this one table is all of type
double.  BUT, for some reason, this one record is returning with the data
from a memo field from the same record (not pulled in the query) and is
blowing up where I am trying to keep up with some totals.

I can delete the data out of the memo and the query runs correctly.  I past
back the data and it blows up again.  So, I save the memo data in notepad,
remove it from the record, compact the database, import it into a new
database, then add the data back form notepad, and it blows again!

Any ideas (short of moving the memo field to its own record) on how to fix
this sort of problem?  It runs great on 100+ other database (all back-ends).

Thanks,
Bobby



From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Apr  7 12:07:57 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 12:07:57 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227A84@main2.marlow.com>

Kind of staying out of this, but wanted to comment about the college
students.  Microsoft sells their software to students at an incredible
discount. A co-worker going to UT, was able to get the entire Visual Studio
6, for $5, a few years ago.

Microsoft does this, because they know if the college students use it,
they'll be bringing their knowledge (and preferences) into the business
world.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Francisco H
Tapia
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 5:52 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: open source


Bryan Carbonnell said the following on 4/6/2004 2:46 PM:

>As for the actual Desktop operating system, that is further out. 5-7
>years would be my guess. Linux needs a few things to become more
>competitive with Windows. It *needs* to become less "geek-friendly" and
>more "user friendly". It also *NEEDS* to have a "standard" GUI, or at
>least a standard layout. 
>
While I agree with you I also have to guess that a Linux convertion may 
be closer than we all guess.  There have been leaps and bounds in which 
the various distros have improved their desktop products.  I also must 
concur that a standardized GUI would be the killer blow that would/will 
ultimately drive hords of users away from Microsoft.  I base my opinion 
off such distros like RedHat or even the newest one I've seen 
(Knopixx).  Wich is an OS bootable completely off the CD.  It is Linux, 
and what makes this even more cool is that you could theoretically put 
out a distro that would make it so that end users "couldn't" break thier 
installations.  Just always boot from the CD.  With High end products 
such as ThunderBird and FireFox and even some of the OpenOffice 
products, Open Source products are reaching maturity levels that are 
acceptable to a wider population.  Some of the greatest leaps have been 
"custom installers" for such products. This improves delivery to end 
users who are wanting to try a simpler to use OPEN SOURCE community.

A greater risk than vulnerabilities in MS software is not so much the 
security holes, but the COST of the software.  You have many college 
students that simply can't afford to go w/ MS Office so they use 
OpenOffice.  While not all do, the trend is steadily climing, and w/ the 
avalability getting better and the quaility reaching acceptace from the 
general public, this will help push more OpenSource software into the 
main stream.


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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Apr  7 12:11:06 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 12:11:06 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227A85@main2.marlow.com>

Why?  We share code here.  Then there are a million and one sites all based
upon techies sharing information.

In my opinion, the rest of the world needs to catch up with the internet.

Drew

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 6:07 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: open source


 
Open source does not mean free of cost.  Nor does it always mean free of
licence fees.

====Right, I understand that and I don't mean to confuse the issue, but
sharing intellectual property in this way is an odd concept to me. 

Susan H. 

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Apr  7 12:14:57 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 12:14:57 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227A86@main2.marlow.com>

Not too mention Remote Administrators 'routing' capability.  (ie, I have it
on my server at home, but then I can hit any machine on my home network by
'routing' through my server).

Drew

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 8:33 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file


We tried GoToMyPC here.  Had a number of problems, especially when working
in a "2-way" teleconference where both parties were driving the machine.
The machine would hang while waiting for the other party to move their
mouse, click a key, etc.

I followed Drew's suggestion a while back, and picked up a copy of Remote
Administrator (www.radmin.com).  $35 covers the license for 2 machines.  No
monthly charges.  No headaches.  Works for us!


-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com]
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 5:35 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file


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Steve,

I don't have an answer to your specific problem, but since your client is
distant this might help:

Have your client download a trial version of GoToMyPC.  He can set up an
account for himself.  GoToMyPC has a feature called 'Guest Invite'.  He can
use this to let you see what's happening on his screen, and you can control
his PC from yours so you can do some troubleshooting.  

I guess this is similar to WebEx or PCAnywhere.  If he decides to keep the
GoToMyPC account, he only needs to pay $15/mo.  I use it to work with my
clients so they can see 'drafts' of what I'm doing without making a trip.

Best of Luck!
Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steven W. Erbach
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 10:33 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Help with Error accessing file

Dear Group,

I have an Access 2000 FE/BE application loaded on a client's system in
another city 90 miles away. I've been working with their network guy over
the phone and he's sent me screen shots of error messages along the way.
Here's the situation.

The "master" MDB FE database is loaded on the server. I have the local
people there create an MDE and place it in another folder so that's it's
available for the users who download it to their workstations when a new
version is ready. While working with my client's network guy, Bob, the MDE
file SEEMS to be created all right; but once the compacting is finished and
the FE starts up, the first form opens and he gets this message (it's an "i"
message):

The expression On Load you entered as the event property setting produced
the following error: Error accessing file. Network connection may have been
lost.

  * The expression may not result in the name of a macro, the name of a
user-defined function, or [Event Procedure].
  * There may have been an error evaluating the function, event, or macro.

When he clicks OK the startup form (which is supposed to be hidden) is there
on the screen and the application has halted.

INVESTIGATION:

1) They don't have the Documentor installed so I can't see what the path is
to the BE.

2) However, I do have a form (that I cobbed from Steve Nyberg) that shows
all the links with their paths. When we attempt to open this form we get the
message you see above. Click OK on the message and Nyberg's SeeLinks form
opens but with nothing showing up regarding linked tables.

3) I can open the linked tables from the "master" front end. But when I open
the table that contains the latest version number (part of the version
upgrade system) I see something odd. This Versions table has one row. The
table has a Default value of the Now() function in the VersionDate column.
On my system when I look at the table I see the first row all right and in
the 2nd (empty) row I see (AutoNumber) in the key field and today's date and
time in the VersionDate column. On my client's system he sees #Name? in the
VersionDate column in an empty row. He cannot add information in a new row
because Access doesn't like the default value. So I had Bob remove the
default value. I still get the main problem.

4) The users can still run the application from their workstations using the
old version of the FE. There hasn't been any problem there.

5) The Startup form of the FE calls Carl Tribble's Auto-Linker to check the
link status of the first table before the main switchboard menu appears.
This is all working properly on the users' workstations.

6) I tried Compact and Repair on both the BE and the FE. No change in basic
error.

7) I checked the references. They're all there.

8) Only thing I haven't done (at least that I know how to do) is a
/decompile on the "master" FE on the server.

I'm sorry about the length of this message. I somehow doubt that I would
find the problem even if I were sitting at the workstation. Bob is very
capable, so I'm sure he's relaying to me everything that he sees.

At least my clients can still work with the older version of the app. I am
just stumped why this error message appears in the "master" front end
database. Any thoughts, other than "Well, why the heck do you let the user
make an MDE in the first place, ya numbskull?!"

Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
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From pnl1 at psu.edu  Wed Apr  7 12:15:45 2004
From: pnl1 at psu.edu (Paul Liadis)
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 13:15:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Query Truncating Data
In-Reply-To: <5F21A4E8B8DD734992EF9E70AC9D3064128B5A@mail2.wrsystems.com
 >
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040407131402.03e31c80@mail.psu.edu>

Thanks for the information.  I finally determined my problem was that my 
memo field was included in the "Group By" clause.  This caused Access to 
truncate the field.  I guess this is a known issue in Access.  I am used to 
SQL Server.  Anyhow, I took the field out of the Group By and was OK.

Paul Liadis

At 09:33 AM 4/7/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>See M$ KB 170218.
>
>A workaround I used in an older program is as follows (this is A97):
>
>'The following lines of code is a workaround provided by MS due to W97
>inability to assign the value of a variable containing
>     'more than 255 characters.  This is obviously a non-starter, as the
>fields indicated are memo fields in Access.
>     'The formfield is populated with asterisks as a placemark, the document
>then has to be unprotected, then the contents are
>     'dumped into the formfield.  After that, the asteriks are deleted, and
>the protection for the document is reinstated.
>     'The if statement is so this processing effort won't be invoked unless
>the field is not null and contains more than 255 characters.
>     '
>
>     If Not IsNull(Forms!frmstrinput!txtBrief) And
>Len(Forms!frmstrinput!txtBrief) > 255 Then
>         'set Description form field to a unique string.
>         WordObj.Documents(1).FormFields("Description").Result = "****"
>         If WordObj.Documents(1).ProtectionType <> wdNoProtection Then
>             WordObj.Documents(1).Unprotect Password:="bob"
>         End If
>         WordObj.Selection.Goto what:=wdGoToBookmark, Name:="Description"
>         WordObj.Selection.Collapse
>         WordObj.Selection.MoveRight wdCharacter, 1
>         WordObj.Selection.TypeText (Forms!frmstrinput!txtBrief)
>         WordObj.Selection.Goto wdGoToBookmark, , , "description"
>         'Remove unique characters from Description form field
>         With WordObj.Selection.Find
>             .Execute findtext:="*", replacewith:="", replace:=wdReplaceAll
>         End With
>         WordObj.Documents(1).Protect Password:="bob", noreset:=True,
>Type:=wdAllowOnlyFormFields
>
>     Else
>         WordObj.Documents(1).FormFields("Description").Result =
>IIf(IsNull(Forms!frmstrinput!txtBrief), "", (Forms!frmstrinput!txtBrief))
>     End If
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Paul Liadis [mailto:pnl1 at psu.edu]
>Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 9:22 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Query Truncating Data
>
>Hello,
>I am having a problem with a query in which my data is being truncated to
>255 characters.  My query simply selects from a table (linked from SQL
>Server), but doesn't return all the data in one of the columns (defined as
>memo in Access).  The data is being truncated even though it exists in the
>table.  Has anyone experienced this?
>
>Thanks,
>
>===============================================
>Paul Liadis
>Senior Applications Programmer/Analyst
>University Budget Office
>Pennsylvania State University
>
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From ranthony at wrsystems.com  Wed Apr  7 12:21:47 2004
From: ranthony at wrsystems.com (ranthony at wrsystems.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 13:21:47 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Query Truncating Data
Message-ID: <5F21A4E8B8DD734992EF9E70AC9D3064128B5D@mail2.wrsystems.com>

Glad you got it fixed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Liadis [mailto:pnl1 at psu.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:16 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query Truncating Data

Thanks for the information.  I finally determined my problem was that my 
memo field was included in the "Group By" clause.  This caused Access to 
truncate the field.  I guess this is a known issue in Access.  I am used to 
SQL Server.  Anyhow, I took the field out of the Group By and was OK.

Paul Liadis

At 09:33 AM 4/7/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>See M$ KB 170218.
>
>A workaround I used in an older program is as follows (this is A97):
>
>'The following lines of code is a workaround provided by MS due to W97
>inability to assign the value of a variable containing
>     'more than 255 characters.  This is obviously a non-starter, as the
>fields indicated are memo fields in Access.
>     'The formfield is populated with asterisks as a placemark, the
document
>then has to be unprotected, then the contents are
>     'dumped into the formfield.  After that, the asteriks are deleted, and
>the protection for the document is reinstated.
>     'The if statement is so this processing effort won't be invoked unless
>the field is not null and contains more than 255 characters.
>     '
>
>     If Not IsNull(Forms!frmstrinput!txtBrief) And
>Len(Forms!frmstrinput!txtBrief) > 255 Then
>         'set Description form field to a unique string.
>         WordObj.Documents(1).FormFields("Description").Result = "****"
>         If WordObj.Documents(1).ProtectionType <> wdNoProtection Then
>             WordObj.Documents(1).Unprotect Password:="bob"
>         End If
>         WordObj.Selection.Goto what:=wdGoToBookmark, Name:="Description"
>         WordObj.Selection.Collapse
>         WordObj.Selection.MoveRight wdCharacter, 1
>         WordObj.Selection.TypeText (Forms!frmstrinput!txtBrief)
>         WordObj.Selection.Goto wdGoToBookmark, , , "description"
>         'Remove unique characters from Description form field
>         With WordObj.Selection.Find
>             .Execute findtext:="*", replacewith:="", replace:=wdReplaceAll
>         End With
>         WordObj.Documents(1).Protect Password:="bob", noreset:=True,
>Type:=wdAllowOnlyFormFields
>
>     Else
>         WordObj.Documents(1).FormFields("Description").Result =
>IIf(IsNull(Forms!frmstrinput!txtBrief), "", (Forms!frmstrinput!txtBrief))
>     End If
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Paul Liadis [mailto:pnl1 at psu.edu]
>Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 9:22 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Query Truncating Data
>
>Hello,
>I am having a problem with a query in which my data is being truncated to
>255 characters.  My query simply selects from a table (linked from SQL
>Server), but doesn't return all the data in one of the columns (defined as
>memo in Access).  The data is being truncated even though it exists in the
>table.  Has anyone experienced this?
>
>Thanks,
>
>===============================================
>Paul Liadis
>Senior Applications Programmer/Analyst
>University Budget Office
>Pennsylvania State University
>
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Wed Apr  7 12:36:05 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 13:36:05 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB4C@nnse14.nns.com>

Group,

I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder permissions) to
only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
database for general use that needs to link to a table in that restricted
database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the minimum necessary
to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any modifications
to the data?

Permissions:		Allow/Deny?
Full Control
Modify
Read & Execute
List Folder Contents
Read
Write


TIA,

Mark


From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Apr  7 12:48:55 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 12:48:55 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] How do I
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227A87@main2.marlow.com>

Here ya go....

Function GetTime(dtDateWithTime As Date) As Date
GetTime = TimeSerial(Hour(dtDateWithTime), Minute(dtDateWithTime),
Second(dtDateWithTime))
End Function

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 12:03 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] How do I


Having a bit of a problem tonight.

Given #5/11/2000 3:20:00 PM#

How do I get rid of the date portion and return just the time?

I tried subtracting the clng(ThatDate) from the whole... sometimes worked
but sometimes gave me bad time (but never any date portion)

I tried dateadd("d",-clng(ThatDate),ThatDate)... That always gives me the
correct time but 12/29/1899 as the date portion if the time is in the PM.

I have a bunch of times that include the date and I need to strip the date
off the time.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Apr  7 12:49:46 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 12:49:46 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227A88@main2.marlow.com>

Yes I make my living off this list.  Wait until my billing goes out! LOL

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 9:52 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: open source


Do you make your living from this list? If all of your clients or your boss
suddenly said "Keep it up, you're doing great, but btw, you're working for
free now, aren't you?" Or, how about, "And show this new guy everything you
know so we don't need you anymore." -- would that be OK?

Susan H. 

On 6 Apr 2004 at 19:06, Susan Harkins wrote:

> ====Right, I understand that and I don't mean to confuse the issue, 
> but sharing intellectual property in this way is an odd concept to me.

What part is odd? 

We freely share our intelectual property here everyday.

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Apr  7 12:38:36 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 10:38:36 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
References: <20040406145847.NMC1781.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <40743C9C.6090201@shaw.ca>

 One thought on open source. Without a certain critical mass of users, 
support for certain types of open source software
can be a definite problem. This happens when you go beyond the common 
spreadsheet and word processing programs.

Let use an example. The two major general statistical packages SPSS and 
SAS do not run on Linux. They are used throughout government and large 
companies like pharmaceutical industries. Both these packages are taught 
in universities in courses like the Social Sciences. There is a large 
user support database, user conventions, mailing lists etc. The users 
have a familiarity with the packages.

 Now there is an open source replacement called R. Works on Unix, Linux 
and Windows.

R is possibly as good as SAS.  Probably better graphics than SAS-Graph. 
Cutting edge statistics - Many are developed in R (or in its commercial
cousin - S Plus).  It takes a while for them to make it into SAS. R 
doesn't have the data management abilities that SAS has.
However support is limited. The R language used is as different from SAS 
as English is to Swahili. So the ordinary social scientist doing 
regression analysis is going to have problem switching, whereas a recent 
Ph.D. in Statistics has probably been exposed to both languages. What I 
have seen in some large government departments is  a reasonable 
compromise using Base SAS for data management and exploratory data 
analysis and R for more advanced stats and graphs.

 Until recently R was restricted by only working with Data Sets in 
memory and access to external data was limited. In another year, they 
will be able to get at XML data, SAS  transport (XPORT) format data sets 
and some databases. It can get at Postgres now, higher versions of SQL 
and even Access.
 If you switch from SAS to R, you will have to overcome training and 
support problems  Is it worth the $1000 a seat difference? There are not 
a lot of people familiar with R (not enough critical mass of users or 
support personnel) . If some of the major pharmaceuticals switch to R, 
then the number of support personnel will increase. They will then endow 
some more universities to start teaching it to ensure a supply of 
trained personnel.

If anyone is interested in running Access and R on windows here is a 
starting point. I suppose you can also do it on Linux with Samba.

http://www.r-project.org/
http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/pub/R/rw-FAQ.html

 Here is where a lot of open source packages fall down on data 
mangement. For example MAXDB (old SAPDB) from MySQL has a limited  ODBC 
driver and no OLEDB driver Would be nice to have to link to dotNet. 
However you will have to wait for some kind spirited soul to write one, 
It would take a least 3 months of someone's time. I have heard of people 
offering to do it for $10,000. Maybe someone will do it at MySQL. Guys 
who can write this type of code are thin on the ground.

This also happens with other large scale systems like AutoCAD or GIS 
systems like ArcINFO. ArcINFO can handle spatial database engines on 
Linux, but the front end Linux support requires Java Object interfaces, 
where there is little open source generic front ends available for 
datamangement. Although there are plenty of  frontend viewers available 
even through html and maybe svg xml. There are no decent free/open 
source CAD packages. Why? Because it is so damn difficult and 
time/manpower consuming to program one. Therefore to try and duplicate 
the functionality of any CAD package and especially the new generation 
parameteric modellers such as AutoCad Inventor, ProE, SolidWorks, etc. 
is not practical. I would say it is impossible with a limited 2D 
programs  such as open source MetaPost.

And come to think of it. I haven't seen any good open source accounting 
packages for Linux.

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Apr  7 13:06:53 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 14:06:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227A85@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <20040407180713.XGDQ1746.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

It's still peer to peer Drew, in a mutually beneficial exchange -- that
doesn't equate to software manufacturers going open code with everything. 

Susan H. 

Why?  We share code here.  Then there are a million and one sites all based
upon techies sharing information.

In my opinion, the rest of the world needs to catch up with the internet.




From Patricia.O'Connor at DFA.STATE.NY.US  Wed Apr  7 13:21:19 2004
From: Patricia.O'Connor at DFA.STATE.NY.US (O'Connor, Patricia  )
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 14:21:19 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] How do I
Message-ID: <F3AD5F74D038C045A3BDB2773581F4DB0188253B@exchsen0a1mc>

John,

Try this 
TIMEVALUE(#12/07/2001 10:43:56 AM#)

Patti


> -----Original Message-----
> From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 01:03 AM
> To: AccessD
> Subject: [AccessD] How do I
> 
> 
> Having a bit of a problem tonight.
> 
> Given #5/11/2000 3:20:00 PM#
> 
> How do I get rid of the date portion and return just the time?
> 
> I tried subtracting the clng(ThatDate) from the whole... 
> sometimes worked
> but sometimes gave me bad time (but never any date portion)
> 
> I tried dateadd("d",-clng(ThatDate),ThatDate)... That always 
> gives me the
> correct time but 12/29/1899 as the date portion if the time 
> is in the PM.
> 
> I have a bunch of times that include the date and I need to 
> strip the date
> off the time.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> 
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Apr  7 13:28:55 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 13:28:55 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227A8C@main2.marlow.com>

Here yes, but on download sites, like PlanetSourceCode.com, no.  On sites
where code is posted, and retrieved by anyone that wants it, that is open
source.  The difference is, code like that is generic, or single purpose.
You want something specific, or tailored to your needs, then you hire a
developer.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:07 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: open source


It's still peer to peer Drew, in a mutually beneficial exchange -- that
doesn't equate to software manufacturers going open code with everything. 

Susan H. 

Why?  We share code here.  Then there are a million and one sites all based
upon techies sharing information.

In my opinion, the rest of the world needs to catch up with the internet.


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From mms at sentex.net  Wed Apr  7 13:47:42 2004
From: mms at sentex.net (Les Dunn)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 14:47:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Emails Problems
References: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D55C@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <003d01c41cd0$cf2b8e50$e0fc7018@lesdunn>

Yes.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hollis,Virginia" <HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:15 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Emails Problems


> Has anyone been receiving strange emails with attachments? I have been
> getting emails for the past 2 days with txt attachments. I just received
one
> that said it was from AccessD.
>
> Virginia
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Wed Apr  7 14:00:21 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 15:00:21 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB4E@nnse14.nns.com>

Can anyone point me in the right direction on this?



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:36 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Group,

I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder permissions) to
only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
database for general use that needs to link to a table in that restricted
database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the minimum necessary
to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any modifications
to the data?

Permissions:		Allow/Deny?
Full Control
Modify
Read & Execute
List Folder Contents
Read
Write


TIA,

Mark
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From ranthony at wrsystems.com  Wed Apr  7 14:40:14 2004
From: ranthony at wrsystems.com (ranthony at wrsystems.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 15:40:14 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
Message-ID: <5F21A4E8B8DD734992EF9E70AC9D3064128B5E@mail2.wrsystems.com>

Mark,
Off the top of my head, I'd go with Read & Execute and Read and no other
permissions.  They will need at least Read permissions to access the
folders.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher

Can anyone point me in the right direction on this?



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:36 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Group,

I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder permissions) to
only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
database for general use that needs to link to a table in that restricted
database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the minimum necessary
to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any modifications
to the data?

Permissions:		Allow/Deny?
Full Control
Modify
Read & Execute
List Folder Contents
Read
Write


TIA,

Mark
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Wed Apr  7 14:48:32 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 15:48:32 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB4F@nnse14.nns.com>

Thanks for your reply.  Because I'm not familiar with this topic I have to
wonder...wouldn't "Read" be redundant if "Read & Execute" was allowed?  Or
are they two separate things?  I'm looking for the absolute minimum.


Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: ranthony at wrsystems.com [mailto:ranthony at wrsystems.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:40 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Mark,
Off the top of my head, I'd go with Read & Execute and Read and no other
permissions.  They will need at least Read permissions to access the
folders.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher

Can anyone point me in the right direction on this?



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:36 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Group,

I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder permissions) to
only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
database for general use that needs to link to a table in that restricted
database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the minimum necessary
to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any modifications
to the data?

Permissions:		Allow/Deny?
Full Control
Modify
Read & Execute
List Folder Contents
Read
Write


TIA,

Mark
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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Wed Apr  7 14:56:01 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 15:56:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
In-Reply-To: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB4C@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKKEBOIPAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Mark,

  You can't do what you want through OS level security.  You need to use
Access level security.  All users, regardless of what they do once inside
the container need full rights where the directory resides and read/modify
on the MDB file itself.

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
S. (Newport News)
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:36 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Group,

I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder permissions) to
only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
database for general use that needs to link to a table in that restricted
database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the minimum necessary
to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any modifications
to the data?

Permissions:		Allow/Deny?
Full Control
Modify
Read & Execute
List Folder Contents
Read
Write


TIA,

Mark
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From mikedorism at adelphia.net  Wed Apr  7 14:41:54 2004
From: mikedorism at adelphia.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 15:41:54 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
In-Reply-To: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB4E@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <000001c41cd8$614d3520$ed194244@hargrove.internal>

I believe the minimum necessary is Read & Execute.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark S.
(Newport News)
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Can anyone point me in the right direction on this?



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:36 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Group,

I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder permissions) to
only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
database for general use that needs to link to a table in that restricted
database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the minimum necessary
to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any modifications
to the data?

Permissions:		Allow/Deny?
Full Control
Modify
Read & Execute
List Folder Contents
Read
Write


TIA,

Mark
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Wed Apr  7 15:04:45 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 16:04:45 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB50@nnse14.nns.com>

Really?  Because in this afternoon's testing I set up a test case where the
user was given only Read & Execute, List Folder Contents, and Read to the
folder containing the remote db.  That user was able to execute a select
query in datasheet view, but was not able to modify any of the entries.
That's as far as I was able to take the testing thus far.



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Mark,

  You can't do what you want through OS level security.  You need to use
Access level security.  All users, regardless of what they do once inside
the container need full rights where the directory resides and read/modify
on the MDB file itself.

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
S. (Newport News)
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:36 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Group,

I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder permissions) to
only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
database for general use that needs to link to a table in that restricted
database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the minimum necessary
to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any modifications
to the data?

Permissions:		Allow/Deny?
Full Control
Modify
Read & Execute
List Folder Contents
Read
Write


TIA,

Mark
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Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com


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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Wed Apr  7 15:05:56 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 16:05:56 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB51@nnse14.nns.com>

Thank you...that will be the test I run tomorrow.



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike & Doris Manning [mailto:mikedorism at adelphia.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:42 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


I believe the minimum necessary is Read & Execute.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark S.
(Newport News)
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Can anyone point me in the right direction on this?



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:36 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Group,

I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder permissions) to
only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
database for general use that needs to link to a table in that restricted
database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the minimum necessary
to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any modifications
to the data?

Permissions:		Allow/Deny?
Full Control
Modify
Read & Execute
List Folder Contents
Read
Write


TIA,

Mark
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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Wed Apr  7 15:07:35 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 15:07:35 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] How do I
Message-ID: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE4CF@TAPPEEXCH01>

TimeValue()

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 12:03 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] How do I


Having a bit of a problem tonight.

Given #5/11/2000 3:20:00 PM#

How do I get rid of the date portion and return just the time?

I tried subtracting the clng(ThatDate) from the whole... sometimes worked
but sometimes gave me bad time (but never any date portion)

I tried dateadd("d",-clng(ThatDate),ThatDate)... That always gives me the
correct time but 12/29/1899 as the date portion if the time is in the PM.

I have a bunch of times that include the date and I need to strip the date
off the time.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com



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From ranthony at wrsystems.com  Wed Apr  7 15:12:34 2004
From: ranthony at wrsystems.com (ranthony at wrsystems.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 16:12:34 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
Message-ID: <5F21A4E8B8DD734992EF9E70AC9D3064128B5F@mail2.wrsystems.com>

I think this is correct.  I was going to agree with Jim on full control is
needed so the user can write to the .ldb, but your testing seems to bear
this out.  Our system is setup so that users have full control on the
folders and I use Access security within that.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher

Really?  Because in this afternoon's testing I set up a test case where the
user was given only Read & Execute, List Folder Contents, and Read to the
folder containing the remote db.  That user was able to execute a select
query in datasheet view, but was not able to modify any of the entries.
That's as far as I was able to take the testing thus far.



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Mark,

  You can't do what you want through OS level security.  You need to use
Access level security.  All users, regardless of what they do once inside
the container need full rights where the directory resides and read/modify
on the MDB file itself.

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
S. (Newport News)
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:36 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Group,

I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder permissions) to
only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
database for general use that needs to link to a table in that restricted
database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the minimum necessary
to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any modifications
to the data?

Permissions:		Allow/Deny?
Full Control
Modify
Read & Execute
List Folder Contents
Read
Write


TIA,

Mark
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Wed Apr  7 15:21:45 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 16:21:45 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB52@nnse14.nns.com>

It seems that in this case, write privileges to allow for the .ldb are not
needed because I am only linking to a table in that database...not actually
opening the database.



Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: ranthony at wrsystems.com [mailto:ranthony at wrsystems.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:13 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


I think this is correct.  I was going to agree with Jim on full control is
needed so the user can write to the .ldb, but your testing seems to bear
this out.  Our system is setup so that users have full control on the
folders and I use Access security within that.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher

Really?  Because in this afternoon's testing I set up a test case where the
user was given only Read & Execute, List Folder Contents, and Read to the
folder containing the remote db.  That user was able to execute a select
query in datasheet view, but was not able to modify any of the entries.
That's as far as I was able to take the testing thus far.



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Mark,

  You can't do what you want through OS level security.  You need to use
Access level security.  All users, regardless of what they do once inside
the container need full rights where the directory resides and read/modify
on the MDB file itself.

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
S. (Newport News)
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:36 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Group,

I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder permissions) to
only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
database for general use that needs to link to a table in that restricted
database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the minimum necessary
to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any modifications
to the data?

Permissions:		Allow/Deny?
Full Control
Modify
Read & Execute
List Folder Contents
Read
Write


TIA,

Mark
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From mikedorism at adelphia.net  Wed Apr  7 15:31:01 2004
From: mikedorism at adelphia.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 16:31:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
In-Reply-To: <5F21A4E8B8DD734992EF9E70AC9D3064128B5F@mail2.wrsystems.com>
Message-ID: <000001c41cdf$3fe87460$ed194244@hargrove.internal>

You don't need Full Control if you are linking to an MDB in another
location.  Your rights to the tables in that MDB are controlled by your OS
rights to the folder it is in.  No LDB gets opened at all for the MDB you
are linked to in this case.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
ranthony at wrsystems.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:13 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


I think this is correct.  I was going to agree with Jim on full control is
needed so the user can write to the .ldb, but your testing seems to bear
this out.  Our system is setup so that users have full control on the
folders and I use Access security within that.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher

Really?  Because in this afternoon's testing I set up a test case where the
user was given only Read & Execute, List Folder Contents, and Read to the
folder containing the remote db.  That user was able to execute a select
query in datasheet view, but was not able to modify any of the entries.
That's as far as I was able to take the testing thus far.



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Mark,

  You can't do what you want through OS level security.  You need to use
Access level security.  All users, regardless of what they do once inside
the container need full rights where the directory resides and read/modify
on the MDB file itself.

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark S.
(Newport News)
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:36 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Group,

I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder permissions) to
only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
database for general use that needs to link to a table in that restricted
database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the minimum necessary
to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any modifications
to the data?

Permissions:		Allow/Deny?
Full Control
Modify
Read & Execute
List Folder Contents
Read
Write


TIA,

Mark
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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Wed Apr  7 15:29:06 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 16:29:06 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
In-Reply-To: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB50@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKGECAIPAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Mark,

  Yes.  If you don't, the first user in will not be able to create a .LDB
file and the MDB will get opened in exclusive mode.  Beyond that, when a
user attaches to the database, Access needs to write to the database header
page even if the user is going to be doing read only things.  If it can't do
that, again the result will be exclusive mode.

  So users need read/write privilege for the folder and read/write
privileges for the MDB file itself.

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
S. (Newport News)
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Really?  Because in this afternoon's testing I set up a test case where the
user was given only Read & Execute, List Folder Contents, and Read to the
folder containing the remote db.  That user was able to execute a select
query in datasheet view, but was not able to modify any of the entries.
That's as far as I was able to take the testing thus far.



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Mark,

  You can't do what you want through OS level security.  You need to use
Access level security.  All users, regardless of what they do once inside
the container need full rights where the directory resides and read/modify
on the MDB file itself.

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
S. (Newport News)
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:36 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Group,

I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder permissions) to
only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
database for general use that needs to link to a table in that restricted
database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the minimum necessary
to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any modifications
to the data?

Permissions:		Allow/Deny?
Full Control
Modify
Read & Execute
List Folder Contents
Read
Write


TIA,

Mark
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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Wed Apr  7 15:30:42 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 16:30:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
In-Reply-To: <000001c41cdf$3fe87460$ed194244@hargrove.internal>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKMECAIPAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Doris,

  <<No LDB gets opened at all for the MDB you
are linked to in this case.>>

  Yes, one always gets created anytime a user attaches to a MDB file (even
if via a linked table).  If one is not created, Access/JET defaults to
exclusive use.

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:31 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


You don't need Full Control if you are linking to an MDB in another
location.  Your rights to the tables in that MDB are controlled by your OS
rights to the folder it is in.  No LDB gets opened at all for the MDB you
are linked to in this case.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
ranthony at wrsystems.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:13 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


I think this is correct.  I was going to agree with Jim on full control is
needed so the user can write to the .ldb, but your testing seems to bear
this out.  Our system is setup so that users have full control on the
folders and I use Access security within that.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher

Really?  Because in this afternoon's testing I set up a test case where the
user was given only Read & Execute, List Folder Contents, and Read to the
folder containing the remote db.  That user was able to execute a select
query in datasheet view, but was not able to modify any of the entries.
That's as far as I was able to take the testing thus far.



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Mark,

  You can't do what you want through OS level security.  You need to use
Access level security.  All users, regardless of what they do once inside
the container need full rights where the directory resides and read/modify
on the MDB file itself.

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark S.
(Newport News)
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:36 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Group,

I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder permissions) to
only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
database for general use that needs to link to a table in that restricted
database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the minimum necessary
to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any modifications
to the data?

Permissions:		Allow/Deny?
Full Control
Modify
Read & Execute
List Folder Contents
Read
Write


TIA,

Mark
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From ranthony at wrsystems.com  Wed Apr  7 15:39:10 2004
From: ranthony at wrsystems.com (ranthony at wrsystems.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 16:39:10 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
Message-ID: <5F21A4E8B8DD734992EF9E70AC9D3064128B60@mail2.wrsystems.com>

Very interesting discussion here, I'm learning...

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike & Doris Manning [mailto:mikedorism at adelphia.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:31 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher

You don't need Full Control if you are linking to an MDB in another
location.  Your rights to the tables in that MDB are controlled by your OS
rights to the folder it is in.  No LDB gets opened at all for the MDB you
are linked to in this case.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
ranthony at wrsystems.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:13 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


I think this is correct.  I was going to agree with Jim on full control is
needed so the user can write to the .ldb, but your testing seems to bear
this out.  Our system is setup so that users have full control on the
folders and I use Access security within that.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher

Really?  Because in this afternoon's testing I set up a test case where the
user was given only Read & Execute, List Folder Contents, and Read to the
folder containing the remote db.  That user was able to execute a select
query in datasheet view, but was not able to modify any of the entries.
That's as far as I was able to take the testing thus far.



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Mark,

  You can't do what you want through OS level security.  You need to use
Access level security.  All users, regardless of what they do once inside
the container need full rights where the directory resides and read/modify
on the MDB file itself.

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark S.
(Newport News)
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:36 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Group,

I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder permissions) to
only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
database for general use that needs to link to a table in that restricted
database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the minimum necessary
to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any modifications
to the data?

Permissions:		Allow/Deny?
Full Control
Modify
Read & Execute
List Folder Contents
Read
Write


TIA,

Mark
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From Patricia.O'Connor at DFA.STATE.NY.US  Wed Apr  7 15:40:34 2004
From: Patricia.O'Connor at DFA.STATE.NY.US (O'Connor, Patricia  )
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 16:40:34 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Access2k - Move ODBC option in dropdown
Message-ID: <F3AD5F74D038C045A3BDB2773581F4DB0188253E@exchsen0a1mc>


Hi all,
When linking tables to an access database, there is a dropdown box with all
the different options for datatype. Does anyone know how to move the ODBC
option up in the list. Right now it comes up last, I would like to move it
up to 1st-3rd.

Thanks
Patti

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 04:31 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
> 
> 
> Doris,
> 
>   <<No LDB gets opened at all for the MDB you
> are linked to in this case.>>
> 
>   Yes, one always gets created anytime a user attaches to a 
> MDB file (even
> if via a linked table).  If one is not created, Access/JET defaults to
> exclusive use.
> 
> Jim Dettman
> (315) 699-3443
> jimdettman at earthlink.net
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
> Manning
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:31 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
> 
> 
> You don't need Full Control if you are linking to an MDB in another
> location.  Your rights to the tables in that MDB are 
> controlled by your OS
> rights to the folder it is in.  No LDB gets opened at all for 
> the MDB you
> are linked to in this case.
> 
> Doris Manning
> Database Administrator
> Hargrove Inc.
> www.hargroveinc.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> ranthony at wrsystems.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:13 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
> 
> 
> I think this is correct.  I was going to agree with Jim on 
> full control is
> needed so the user can write to the .ldb, but your testing 
> seems to bear
> this out.  Our system is setup so that users have full control on the
> folders and I use Access security within that.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:05 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
> 
> Really?  Because in this afternoon's testing I set up a test 
> case where the
> user was given only Read & Execute, List Folder Contents, and 
> Read to the
> folder containing the remote db.  That user was able to 
> execute a select
> query in datasheet view, but was not able to modify any of 
> the entries.
> That's as far as I was able to take the testing thus far.
> 
> 
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:56 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
> 
> 
> Mark,
> 
>   You can't do what you want through OS level security.  You 
> need to use
> Access level security.  All users, regardless of what they do 
> once inside
> the container need full rights where the directory resides 
> and read/modify
> on the MDB file itself.
> 
> Jim Dettman
> (315) 699-3443
> jimdettman at earthlink.net
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of 
> Mitsules, Mark S.
> (Newport News)
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:36 PM
> To: '[AccessD]'
> Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
> 
> 
> Group,
> 
> I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder 
> permissions) to
> only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
> database for general use that needs to link to a table in 
> that restricted
> database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the 
> minimum necessary
> to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any 
> modifications
> to the data?
> 
> Permissions:		Allow/Deny?
> Full Control
> Modify
> Read & Execute
> List Folder Contents
> Read
> Write
> 
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Mark
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Wed Apr  7 16:07:26 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 17:07:26 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Startup Properties
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB53@nnse14.nns.com>

Building on the "Permissions Refresher" topic, has anyone implemented, or is
it possible, to minimize user's "oops" by utilizing the following scenario?

FIRST - Uncheck the following startup properties:
Display Database Window
Allow Full Menus
Allow Default Shortcut Menus
Allow Built-in Toolbars
Allow Toolbar/Menu Changes
Use Access Special Keys

SECOND - Create an Administrator option that is shown on the switchboard
based on the results of the GetUserName function.  This would provide a form
to reset those startup properties to default if needed.


This database solution is in its infancy and bound to go through numerous
design changes...therefore, I need to be able to go into design mode when
necessary, yet default to a more secure mode when I exit.  Is this a viable
solution for use in a small workgroup?  Any downside?


Mark


From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Apr  7 17:12:43 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 17:12:43 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227A9B@main2.marlow.com>

You can make an .mdb 'read only' through NT security.  It's not the prefered
method though.  The reason it's not prefered, is because you are actually
having Jet error out, by being denied access to the file by NT security,
instead of letting JET handle things with it's own security.  It's actually
very simple to setup Access User Level security, so that an 'admin' account
has full access, and all other users (Using the generic Admin account) have
read only access. Takes about 3 to 4 minutes to setup, and from then on, you
are letting JET handle the security.

Admittedly, NT security is a bit tighter then JET, but with the process
mentioned above, you can keep the 'secured' .mdw locally, out of reach of
the users, and thus the only way to 'hack' it, through JET, would be to use
DAO code, to goof the hash.  But NT security isn't all that secure either!
LOL

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
S. (Newport News)
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Really?  Because in this afternoon's testing I set up a test case where the
user was given only Read & Execute, List Folder Contents, and Read to the
folder containing the remote db.  That user was able to execute a select
query in datasheet view, but was not able to modify any of the entries.
That's as far as I was able to take the testing thus far.



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Mark,

  You can't do what you want through OS level security.  You need to use
Access level security.  All users, regardless of what they do once inside
the container need full rights where the directory resides and read/modify
on the MDB file itself.

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
S. (Newport News)
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:36 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Group,

I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder permissions) to
only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
database for general use that needs to link to a table in that restricted
database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the minimum necessary
to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any modifications
to the data?

Permissions:		Allow/Deny?
Full Control
Modify
Read & Execute
List Folder Contents
Read
Write


TIA,

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Apr  7 17:15:27 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 17:15:27 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227A9C@main2.marlow.com>

Not true.  When you link a table, an .ldb is created for both the FE and BE,
when it's being used.  (You are accessing the data, right?)  The .ldb on the
backend isn't 'created' until the linked table is used, though, which is why
a lot of developers create a 'permanent' link process, to maintain the
connection to the backend.  That can speed up a lot of things in a FE/BE
scenario.

Drew

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:31 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


You don't need Full Control if you are linking to an MDB in another
location.  Your rights to the tables in that MDB are controlled by your OS
rights to the folder it is in.  No LDB gets opened at all for the MDB you
are linked to in this case.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
ranthony at wrsystems.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:13 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


I think this is correct.  I was going to agree with Jim on full control is
needed so the user can write to the .ldb, but your testing seems to bear
this out.  Our system is setup so that users have full control on the
folders and I use Access security within that.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher

Really?  Because in this afternoon's testing I set up a test case where the
user was given only Read & Execute, List Folder Contents, and Read to the
folder containing the remote db.  That user was able to execute a select
query in datasheet view, but was not able to modify any of the entries.
That's as far as I was able to take the testing thus far.



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Mark,

  You can't do what you want through OS level security.  You need to use
Access level security.  All users, regardless of what they do once inside
the container need full rights where the directory resides and read/modify
on the MDB file itself.

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark S.
(Newport News)
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:36 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


Group,

I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder permissions) to
only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
database for general use that needs to link to a table in that restricted
database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the minimum necessary
to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any modifications
to the data?

Permissions:		Allow/Deny?
Full Control
Modify
Read & Execute
List Folder Contents
Read
Write


TIA,

Mark
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From my.lists at verizon.net  Wed Apr  7 17:42:27 2004
From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia)
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 15:42:27 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] MS Access 2003 Gotchas
Message-ID: <407483D3.3070508@verizon.net>

... so I have Access 97 and Access 2000, when I installed .Net 2003, it 
somehow blew away my rights to access the damn CodeLibrary unless I 
stick the stupid 2000 ODE disc in the drive.  anyhow, that's not my 
question.  There are behavioral diffrences in 97 and 2000 in the manner 
that a form will behave when it is displayed in datasheet view, 
Originally I thought it was the ADP causing this, but later found out 
that it appears to just be a 2000 thing (strangley I've never 
encountered it before). what I'm talking about is when you filter out a 
continous form OR datasheet on say column 1 then you wish to modify the 
data in column one you loose your filter when you attempt to modify or 
enter data to that column, unfiltered/unsorted columns are fine.

so I want to test if Access 2003 will yield this same problem, but I 
don't want to be up a creek w/o a paddle and have problems w/ the 
installation when installing 2003.  I remember before people mentioning 
the potential gotchas when going A2000/2002 w/ VBE.


Thanks,


-- 
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Apr  7 17:36:10 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 15:36:10 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
References: <20040407113603.ZBNV1763.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <4074825A.7040303@shaw.ca>

You can put your source code in Escrow, if you don't want to release it 
to companies even with a NDA

You shouldn't use your lawyer as an escrow software agent, an 
independant escrow agent  will act impartially, and that would be 
impossible for a lawyer who was also representing either the supplier or 
the user. Also a lawyer whose client is buying an operating business 
should insist that the buyer has the right to cancel if due diligence 
reveals that continued maintenance and support for critical software is 
not assured in some way, such as a software escrow

Here is a brief explanation of how software escrow works.
http://www.softescrow.com/faq.html#1.0
or
http://www.escrowassociates.com/agreements.htm
http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-6298_11-5088773.html?fromtm=e101

Susan Harkins wrote:

>If I went the MS way, what would my clients do if I was hit by a bus
>tomorrow?
>
>============That's a good point, but to me, it's kind of like expecting a
>chef to give you his recipe. Of course, if the market eventually forces it,
>that's OK with me. I'm not against it.
>
>Susan H. 
>
>  
>

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Apr  7 18:43:32 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 18:43:32 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Access2k - Move ODBC option in dropdown
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227AA0@main2.marlow.com>

WARNING WARNING WARNING! BE VERY CAREFUL WHEN DOING THIS!

Your post raised my curiousity.  I knew the registry had settings to change
the order of various lists (like switching Design View and Datasheet View,
when you create a new table).  After a little futzing around in the
registry, here is what I found.  The 'Link' form that you get, when you link
a table, is not a typical dialog box.  It has to be in a wizard somewhere,
or perhaps directly in msaccess.exe.  Couldn't find it.  However, and that's
a big however, I did find where it builds the list.  There is an odd quirk
though, believe it or not, that list IS generated alphabetically.  I know
that doesn't sound right, because HTML Documents shows up after Microsoft
Foxpro, and before Paradox.  And Exchange comes after Microsoft Excel.  That
is because in the registry, it is listed as Excel, Exchange, Foxpro, HTML,
Paradox.  Which is in the right order.

There is a big catch though.  The first item on the list ISN'T in the
registry (which is Microsoft Access).  Neither is the Last.  ODBC is the
last. 

There is a way to make the ODBC item show up beneath Access though.  Under:
\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Jet\3.5\ISAM Formats you will find
the list of formats which display on that list.  Each key (well almost all
of them) have a value called CanLink, which is 01 if it is listed, and 00 if
it is not.  (Not 'CanLink' value, and it doesn't show up).  So, you could
cheat, and go through and set all of the CanLinks to 00.  I would highly
recommend that you write down which ones you changed (or export the original
registry).  But that would remove them from the list of Linkable sources,
and thus move ODBC up the list.

I know there are more keys set with 'CanLink', then are on the list, but
that is because it groups some of them together.

Also, the registry key above is for Access 97 (Jet 3.5).  If you want A2k,
you would change the 3.5 to 4.0 in the key path.

Drew

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Patricia 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:41 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Access2k - Move ODBC option in dropdown



Hi all,
When linking tables to an access database, there is a dropdown box with all
the different options for datatype. Does anyone know how to move the ODBC
option up in the list. Right now it comes up last, I would like to move it
up to 1st-3rd.

Thanks
Patti

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 04:31 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
> 
> 
> Doris,
> 
>   <<No LDB gets opened at all for the MDB you
> are linked to in this case.>>
> 
>   Yes, one always gets created anytime a user attaches to a 
> MDB file (even
> if via a linked table).  If one is not created, Access/JET defaults to
> exclusive use.
> 
> Jim Dettman
> (315) 699-3443
> jimdettman at earthlink.net
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
> Manning
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:31 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
> 
> 
> You don't need Full Control if you are linking to an MDB in another
> location.  Your rights to the tables in that MDB are 
> controlled by your OS
> rights to the folder it is in.  No LDB gets opened at all for 
> the MDB you
> are linked to in this case.
> 
> Doris Manning
> Database Administrator
> Hargrove Inc.
> www.hargroveinc.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> ranthony at wrsystems.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:13 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
> 
> 
> I think this is correct.  I was going to agree with Jim on 
> full control is
> needed so the user can write to the .ldb, but your testing 
> seems to bear
> this out.  Our system is setup so that users have full control on the
> folders and I use Access security within that.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:05 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
> 
> Really?  Because in this afternoon's testing I set up a test 
> case where the
> user was given only Read & Execute, List Folder Contents, and 
> Read to the
> folder containing the remote db.  That user was able to 
> execute a select
> query in datasheet view, but was not able to modify any of 
> the entries.
> That's as far as I was able to take the testing thus far.
> 
> 
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:56 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
> 
> 
> Mark,
> 
>   You can't do what you want through OS level security.  You 
> need to use
> Access level security.  All users, regardless of what they do 
> once inside
> the container need full rights where the directory resides 
> and read/modify
> on the MDB file itself.
> 
> Jim Dettman
> (315) 699-3443
> jimdettman at earthlink.net
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of 
> Mitsules, Mark S.
> (Newport News)
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:36 PM
> To: '[AccessD]'
> Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
> 
> 
> Group,
> 
> I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder 
> permissions) to
> only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
> database for general use that needs to link to a table in 
> that restricted
> database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the 
> minimum necessary
> to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any 
> modifications
> to the data?
> 
> Permissions:		Allow/Deny?
> Full Control
> Modify
> Read & Execute
> List Folder Contents
> Read
> Write
> 
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Mark
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Apr  7 19:27:49 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 20:27:49 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] How do I
In-Reply-To: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE4CF@TAPPEEXCH01>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPCEGOHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

That's the one.  Thanks.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] How do I


TimeValue()

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 12:03 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] How do I


Having a bit of a problem tonight.

Given #5/11/2000 3:20:00 PM#

How do I get rid of the date portion and return just the time?

I tried subtracting the clng(ThatDate) from the whole... sometimes worked
but sometimes gave me bad time (but never any date portion)

I tried dateadd("d",-clng(ThatDate),ThatDate)... That always gives me the
correct time but 12/29/1899 as the date portion if the time is in the PM.

I have a bunch of times that include the date and I need to strip the date
off the time.

John W. Colby
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Apr  7 20:04:35 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 21:04:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Emails Problems
In-Reply-To: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D55C@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>
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Yes, got one "From" MartyConnely.  The attachment is not a virus and has
databaseadvisor stuff in it.

*******
The following was in the attachment
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:16 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Emails Problems


Has anyone been receiving strange emails with attachments? I have been
getting emails for the past 2 days with txt attachments. I just received one
that said it was from AccessD.

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Apr  7 20:07:43 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 21:07:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] How do I
In-Reply-To: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKAEBAIPAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPMEGOHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Jim,

This is older data from my billing program.  I'm trying to set up a
collision checker so that as I enter times the times are checked for
collisions with existing billing records, so I really have to get rid of the
time.  TimeValue() did the trick.  Just updated those records > 1 and I'm
off and running.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 9:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] How do I


John,

  One thing you can do is continue to use the date/time field, but just
ignore the date (set them all to 0) and use Format$() for displaying the
time only.

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:03 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] How do I


Having a bit of a problem tonight.

Given #5/11/2000 3:20:00 PM#

How do I get rid of the date portion and return just the time?

I tried subtracting the clng(ThatDate) from the whole... sometimes worked
but sometimes gave me bad time (but never any date portion)

I tried dateadd("d",-clng(ThatDate),ThatDate)... That always gives me the
correct time but 12/29/1899 as the date portion if the time is in the PM.

I have a bunch of times that include the date and I need to strip the date
off the time.

John W. Colby
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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Apr  7 20:41:22 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 11:41:22 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code
Message-ID: <00ad01c41d0a$98db8be0$48619a89@DDICK>

Hello all
I managed to find in the help code for creating fields in tables. Excellent
I can see examples and general info on creating just about every field known to mankind....except Autonumber.

I am importing a DBF file with no Autonumber

The field I was going to use a PK in that file is TEXT.

So..I'm open to suggestions- convert the text field to a number field or try and add an Auutonumber field and use that

Any suggestions welcome

many thanks

Darren



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Apr  7 21:07:52 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 22:07:52 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code
In-Reply-To: <00ad01c41d0a$98db8be0$48619a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <20040408020812.VRQK1797.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I can't help with the decision, but if you're having trouble creating an
AutoNumber field, perhaps you're using the wrong keyword -- did you try
counter or autoincrement?

Susan H. 

Hello all
I managed to find in the help code for creating fields in tables. Excellent
I can see examples and general info on creating just about every field known
to mankind....except Autonumber.

I am importing a DBF file with no Autonumber

The field I was going to use a PK in that file is TEXT.

So..I'm open to suggestions- convert the text field to a number field or try
and add an Auutonumber field and use that

Any suggestions welcome

many thanks

Darren

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Apr  7 21:12:12 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 22:12:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Appointment collisions
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPEEHAHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

For anyone who has never seen the code, Lembit donated the following code
which I documented and placed into a function which checks for appointment
collisions.  I just finished building a set of two queries and a report to
display any collisions between times entered into my billing programs.  I
work on site a lot and if I don't have my laptop I keep an email open which
I then email home to myself with my hours and a brief summary of what I am
doing.  In any case I end up copying that into my billing program every few
days.  I have always "manually" checked my hours to make sure I didn't enter
times in wrong, but a simple report to tell me if I am entering overlapping
times is a must.  There is nothing more embarrassing that billing the
customer twice for the same time!

The following is the function.

Option Compare Database
Option Explicit
'.=========================================================================
'.Copyright 2001 Colby Consulting.  All rights reserved.
'.Phone        :
'.E-mail       : jcolby at colbyconsulting.com
'.=========================================================================
' DO NOT DELETE THE COMMENTS ABOVE.  All other comments in this module
' may be deleted from production code, but lines above must remain.
'--------------------------------------------------------------------------
'.Written By   : John W. Colby
'.Date Created : 12/31/2001
' Rev. History :
'.Description  :
'
' Comments     :
'.-------------------------------------------------------------------------
'.
' ADDITIONAL NOTES:
'
'FUNCTIONS SPECIFIC TO THIS APPLICATION
'
'.
'*+ Compiler directives
#Const DebugPrint = True        'TURNS ON/OFF ALL NORMAL DEBUG PRINTING
THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT
#Const DebugPrintEvent = True  'TURNS ON/OFF ALL EVENT DEBUG PRINTING
THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT
'*- Compiler directives
'*+ Module constant declaration
Private Const mcstrModuleName As String = "basApp"    'THE NAME OF THIS
MODULE
'*- Module constant declaration
'*+ Module Variable declaration
'*- Module Variable declaration

Public Function TCComputeTime(ST, ET, SD, ED, Billable, Optional
blnComputeBillable As Boolean = True) As Double
On Error GoTo Err_TCComputeTime
Dim Time As Double
    If blnComputeBillable Then
        If Billable = True Then
            Time = DateDiff("n", ST, ET) / 60
            If DateDiff("d", SD, ED) = 1 Then
               Time = Time + 24
            End If
            '   Time = Format(Time, "00.00")
            Time = Format(Time, "00.0000")
            TCComputeTime = Time
        Else
            TCComputeTime = 0
        End If
    Else
        Time = DateDiff("n", ST, ET) / 60
        If DateDiff("d", SD, ED) = 1 Then
           Time = Time + 24
        End If
        '   Time = Format(Time, "00.00")
        Time = Format(Time, "00.0000")
        TCComputeTime = Time
    End If
Exit_TCComputeTime:
Exit Function
Err_TCComputeTime:
    Select Case Err
    Case 0      '.insert Errors you wish to ignore here
        Resume Next
    Case Else   '.All other errors will trap
        Beep
        MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in Function basApp.TCComputeTime"
        Resume Exit_TCComputeTime
    End Select
    Resume 0    '.FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function

'Comments  :
'Parameters:
'Sets      :
'Returns   :   CURRENT TIME ROUNDED UP OR DOWN TO 10 MINUTE INTERVALS
'Created by: Colby Consulting
'Created   : 9/29/98 11:00:35 AM
Function ccRoundTimeOld(Optional intRoundInterval As Integer = 10)
On Error GoTo Err_ccRoundTime

Dim dtmTime As Date          'HOLDS THE CURRENT TIME FOR MANIPULATION
Dim intMin As Integer        'MINUTE PORTION OF THE TIME VALUE
Dim intTarget As Integer   'TARGET MINUTES TO ROUND TO
Dim intBillRound As Integer   '1/2 THE INTERVAL
Dim intRoundAmt As Integer 'THE AMOUNT TO ROUND UP OR DOWN


   intBillRound = intRoundInterval / 2
   dtmTime = Time()
   intMin = DatePart("n", dtmTime)

   'ADD THE BILL INTERVAL TO ZERO UNTIL IT IS JUST UNDER THE MINUTES
   Do While intTarget + intRoundInterval <= intMin
      intTarget = intTarget + intRoundInterval
   Loop

   'FIGURE OUT IF WE'RE OVER OR UNDER THE HALF WAY POINT OF THE BILL
INTERVAL
   'AND ADD OR SUBTRACT THE CORRECT AMOUNT AS NEEDED
   If intMin - intTarget >= intBillRound Then
      intTarget = intTarget + intRoundInterval
      intRoundAmt = intTarget - intMin
      dtmTime = DateAdd("n", intRoundAmt, dtmTime)
   Else
      intRoundAmt = intTarget - intMin
      dtmTime = DateAdd("n", intRoundAmt, dtmTime)
   End If

   'ROUND OFF THE SECONDS TO ZERO
   dtmTime = DatePart("h", dtmTime) & ":" & DatePart("n", dtmTime) & ":00"

   'PASS BACK THE VALUE
   ccRoundTimeOld = dtmTime

Exit_ccRoundTime:
Exit Function

Err_ccRoundTime:
   Select Case Err
   Case 0      'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
      Resume Next
   Case Else   'All other errors will trap
      Beep
      MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in function Module1.ccRoundTime"
   Resume Exit_ccRoundTime
   End Select
   Resume 0 'FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function

Function ccRoundTime(ByVal varTime As Variant, Optional ByVal intRound As
Integer = 10) As Variant

' ccRoundTime returns varTime rounded to hours and minutes by intRound.
' intRound is the rounding value in minutes.
'
' Examples:
' ccRoundTime(#15:52:30#,15) returns 15:45:00.
' ccRoundTime(varTime,120) returns varTime rounded to even hours.
' ccRoundTime(varTime,6) returns varTime rounded to tens of an hour.
'
' (c) 1997, Cactus Data ApS, Copenhagen.
' May be freely used or modified.

On Error GoTo Err_ccRoundTime
' Limit intRound to minut count for one day.
intRound = intRound Mod (24 * 60)

If IsDate(varTime) And (intRound > 0) Then
    ' Round seconds to minutes.
    varTime = TimeSerial(Hour(varTime), Minute(varTime),
CInt(Second(varTime) / 60) * 60)
    ' Return varTime rounded by intRound using hours calculated as minutes.
    ccRoundTime = TimeSerial(0, CInt((Hour(varTime) * 60 + Minute(varTime))
/ intRound) * intRound, 0)
Else
    ' Return varTime as is.
    ccRoundTime = varTime
End If

Exit_ccRoundTime:
    Exit Function

Err_ccRoundTime:
    ccRoundTime = 0
    Resume Exit_ccRoundTime

End Function

Function C2DbPopulateInvLI(frm As Form, strSQL As String)
On Error GoTo Err_C2DbPopulateInvLI
    MsgBox "strsql"
Exit_C2DbPopulateInvLI:
Exit Function
Err_C2DbPopulateInvLI:
    Select Case Err
    Case 0      '.insert Errors you wish to ignore here
        Resume Next
    Case Else   '.All other errors will trap
        Beep
        MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in Function
basApp.C2DbPopulateInvLI"
        Resume Exit_C2DbPopulateInvLI
    End Select
    Resume 0    '.FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function

'Comments  :    THANKS TO LEMBIT SOOBIK
'there is a 'simple' equation which defines a conflict in appointments:
'let's name the starting point of an existing appointment Se, endpoint Ee
'and for the new appointment to be tested the starting point St, endpoint Et
'now you can simply check
'
'If St < Ee AND Et > Se
'
'then you have a conflict.
'you can easily visualize that by following drawing
'
'_________Se______Ee______
'1_St__Et
'2_St_________Et
'3_St__________________Et
'4___________St_Et
'5___________St________Et
'6_____________________St__Et
'
'As you can see, only cases 2, 3, 4, 5 have a conflict. case 1 does not have
a conflict because it ends before the existing one starts (Et < Se) and 6
does not have a conflict since it starts after the existing ends (St > Ee.
'
'Parameters:
'Sets      :
'Returns   :
'Created by: Colby Consulting
'Created   : 6/25/99 11:43:56 AM
Function ccApptCollision(IDNew As Long, dtmSTNew As Date, dtmETNew As Date,
_
                        IDExist As Long, dtmSTExist As Date, dtmETExist As
Date) As Boolean
On Error GoTo Err_ccApptCollision
#If boolELE Then
    Call gProcStack.EnterProc("ccApptCollision", "Module1")
#End If

    'CHECK IF WE ARE COMPARING A RECORD TO ITSELF
    If IDNew = IDExist Then
        ccApptCollision = False
        Exit Function
    End If

    'CHECK FOR COLLISIONS
    If (dtmSTNew < dtmETExist) And (dtmETNew > dtmSTExist) Then
        ccApptCollision = True
    Else
        ccApptCollision = False
    End If

Exit_ccApptCollision:
#If boolELE Then
    Call gProcStack.ExitProc("ccApptCollision")
#End If
Exit Function

Err_ccApptCollision:
#If boolELE Then
    WriteErrorLog Err
#End If
    Select Case Err
    Case 0      'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
        Resume Next
    Case Else   'All other errors will trap
        Beep
        MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in function
Module1.ccApptCollision"
    Resume Exit_ccApptCollision
    End Select
    Resume 0    'FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function

**********

In my billing I keep the time and date separate.  I then build a query where
I drop the time table in twice, join on the date, then add the time and date
fields into a single value and pass them into the parameters of the function
above as well as the time record IDs from the two records.  Out pops a true
/ false value that tells me if I have a collision.  You can actually do the
same without any join but the result set can get huge in a hurry so you will
need to limit the date ranges.

Again, thanks to Lembit for the logic.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Apr  7 21:23:29 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 22:23:29 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Appointment collisions
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPEEHAHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPMEHAHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Lets try that again.  I got a couple of other functions in the first email


For anyone who has never seen the code, Lembit donated the following code
which I documented and placed into a function which checks for appointment
collisions.  I just finished building a set of two queries and a report to
display any collisions between times entered into my billing programs.  I
work on site a lot and if I don't have my laptop I keep an email open which
I then email home to myself with my hours and a brief summary of what I am
doing.  In any case I end up copying that into my billing program every few
days.  I have always "manually" checked my hours to make sure I didn't enter
times in wrong, but a simple report to tell me if I am entering overlapping
times is a must.  There is nothing more embarrassing that billing the
customer twice for the same time!

The following is the function.

'Comments  :    THANKS TO LEMBIT SOOBIK
'there is a 'simple' equation which defines a conflict in appointments:
'let's name the starting point of an existing appointment Se, endpoint Ee
'and for the new appointment to be tested the starting point St, endpoint Et
'now you can simply check
'
'If St < Ee AND Et > Se
'
'then you have a conflict.
'you can easily visualize that by following drawing
'
'_________Se______Ee______
'1_St__Et
'2_St_________Et
'3_St__________________Et
'4___________St_Et
'5___________St________Et
'6_____________________St__Et
'
'As you can see, only cases 2, 3, 4, 5 have a conflict. case 1 does not have
a conflict because it ends before the existing one starts (Et < Se) and 6
does not have a conflict since it starts after the existing ends (St > Ee.
'
'Parameters:
'Sets      :
'Returns   :
'Created by: Colby Consulting
'Created   : 6/25/99 11:43:56 AM
Function ccApptCollision(IDNew As Long, dtmSTNew As Date, dtmETNew As Date,
_
                        IDExist As Long, dtmSTExist As Date, dtmETExist As
Date) As Boolean
On Error GoTo Err_ccApptCollision
#If boolELE Then
    Call gProcStack.EnterProc("ccApptCollision", "Module1")
#End If

    'CHECK IF WE ARE COMPARING A RECORD TO ITSELF
    If IDNew = IDExist Then
        ccApptCollision = False
        Exit Function
    End If

    'CHECK FOR COLLISIONS
    If (dtmSTNew < dtmETExist) And (dtmETNew > dtmSTExist) Then
        ccApptCollision = True
    Else
        ccApptCollision = False
    End If

Exit_ccApptCollision:
#If boolELE Then
    Call gProcStack.ExitProc("ccApptCollision")
#End If
Exit Function

Err_ccApptCollision:
#If boolELE Then
    WriteErrorLog Err
#End If
    Select Case Err
    Case 0      'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
        Resume Next
    Case Else   'All other errors will trap
        Beep
        MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in function
Module1.ccApptCollision"
    Resume Exit_ccApptCollision
    End Select
    Resume 0    'FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function

**********

In my billing I keep the time and date separate.  I then build a query where
I drop the time table in twice, join on the date, then add the time and date
fields into a single value and pass them into the parameters of the function
above as well as the time record IDs from the two records.  Out pops a true
/ false value that tells me if I have a collision.  You can actually do the
same without any join but the result set can get huge in a hurry so you will
need to limit the date ranges.

Again, thanks to Lembit for the logic.
John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com




From DaveSharpe2 at cox.net  Wed Apr  7 21:47:40 2004
From: DaveSharpe2 at cox.net (Dave Sharpe)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 22:47:40 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code
References: <00ad01c41d0a$98db8be0$48619a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <002001c41d13$dc7a4040$dd2f0a44@bcsrkeext6137>

Darren

I think that this should help

http://www.mvps.org/access/tables/tbl0016.htm

Dave

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darren DICK" <d.dick at uws.edu.au>
To: "AccessD List" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 9:41 PM
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code


> Hello all
> I managed to find in the help code for creating fields in tables.
Excellent
> I can see examples and general info on creating just about every field
known to mankind....except Autonumber.
>
> I am importing a DBF file with no Autonumber
>
> The field I was going to use a PK in that file is TEXT.
>
> So..I'm open to suggestions- convert the text field to a number field or
try and add an Auutonumber field and use that
>
> Any suggestions welcome
>
> many thanks
>
> Darren
>
> -- 
> _______________________________________________
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com



From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Apr  7 21:57:21 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 19:57:21 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Linking speeds
In-Reply-To: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227A9C@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIMEIPCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi All:

I seldom use 'bound' forms in Access...SQL and Oracles work better 'unbound'
but this is not the question or a provocation.

I am having a 'bound' problem with a slow connection/linking from the FE to
the BE. The users do not seem concerned but the initial connection times
seem unreasonable long. Some messages have been posted to this issue on the
list but I missed them.

Would anyone know how to speed up linking time? (Access2002)

TIA
Jim



From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Apr  7 22:14:29 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 13:14:29 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved
References: <00ad01c41d0a$98db8be0$48619a89@DDICK>
	<002001c41d13$dc7a4040$dd2f0a44@bcsrkeext6137>
Message-ID: <010501c41d17$9b574e60$48619a89@DDICK>

Hi Dave
That was it
It seems you can't create an autonumber from code
You first create a  number field then change the attributes
of that newly created field to  (drum roll)  ***dbAutoIncrField***
Then that tells access it's an Autonumber

No wonder the help wasn't
I wouldn't have discovered/figured this by myself in a million years.
Many many thanks

and many thanks to those who responded

(I was just going through variations on Susan's suggestion when your post came in)

This list is brilliant

Darren


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Sharpe" <DaveSharpe2 at cox.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code


> Darren
> 
> I think that this should help
> 
> http://www.mvps.org/access/tables/tbl0016.htm
> 
> Dave
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Darren DICK" <d.dick at uws.edu.au>
> To: "AccessD List" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 9:41 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code
> 
> 
> > Hello all
> > I managed to find in the help code for creating fields in tables.
> Excellent
> > I can see examples and general info on creating just about every field
> known to mankind....except Autonumber.
> >
> > I am importing a DBF file with no Autonumber
> >
> > The field I was going to use a PK in that file is TEXT.
> >
> > So..I'm open to suggestions- convert the text field to a number field or
> try and add an Auutonumber field and use that
> >
> > Any suggestions welcome
> >
> > many thanks
> >
> > Darren
> >
> > -- 
> > _______________________________________________
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> -- 
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> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com


From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Apr  8 01:23:24 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 23:23:24 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] MS product deployment through an IIS server
In-Reply-To: <010501c41d17$9b574e60$48619a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIAEJBCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi All:

Does anyone know the method or where to get information on deploying an
application through an IIS server (version 5plus) via your web browser. My
understanding is that all MS products can be ran in this way. I have been
looking at one application, Outlook, that is ran through an IIS server, from
work and can pick up and respond to the mail messages as if I was
there...eliminates the need for hotmail and the like.

If this is so, and the applications do not require a complete re-write, it
opens up an interesting set of possibilities.

TIA
Jim




From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr  8 07:38:15 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 08:38:15 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Linking speeds
References: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIMEIPCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <001901c41d66$5cb80510$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

Jim ...did you check the dba archives? ...this has several possible causes
and solutions that have been covered extensively :)

Political advertising is the price of our chains ...my name is William
Hindman and I approve this message :)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Lawrence (AccessD)" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:57 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Linking speeds


> Hi All:
>
> I seldom use 'bound' forms in Access...SQL and Oracles work better
'unbound'
> but this is not the question or a provocation.
>
> I am having a 'bound' problem with a slow connection/linking from the FE
to
> the BE. The users do not seem concerned but the initial connection times
> seem unreasonable long. Some messages have been posted to this issue on
the
> list but I missed them.
>
> Would anyone know how to speed up linking time? (Access2002)
>
> TIA
> Jim
>
> -- 
> _______________________________________________
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>




From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Apr  8 09:30:18 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 14:30:18 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Linking speeds
Message-ID: <20040408133015.EBA232762E6@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

The main one being to open a connection to the back-end and keep it open for
the duration of the relink, e.g.

Set dbData = DBEngine.Workspaces(0).OpenDatabase(strDataMdb)

As I can vouch, this speeds it up enormously.

--
Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



--------- Original Message --------
From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linking speeds
Date: 08/04/04 12:42

>
> Jim ...did you check the dba archives? ...this has several possible causes
> and solutions that have been covered extensively :)
>
> Political advertising is the price of our chains ...my name is William
> Hindman and I approve this message :)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: &quot;Jim Lawrence (AccessD)&quot; &lt;accessd at shaw.ca&gt;
> To: &quot;Access Developers discussion and problem solving&quot;
> &lt;accessd at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:57 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] Linking speeds
>
>
> &gt; Hi All:
> &gt;
> &gt; I seldom use 'bound' forms in Access...SQL and Oracles work better
> 'unbound'
> &gt; but this is not the question or a provocation.
> &gt;
> &gt; I am having a 'bound' problem with a slow connection/linking from the
FE
> to
> &gt; the BE. The users do not seem concerned but the initial connection
times
> &gt; seem unreasonable long. Some messages have been posted to this issue
on
> the
> &gt; list but I missed them.
> &gt;
> &gt; Would anyone know how to speed up linking time? (Access2002)
> &gt;
> &gt; TIA
> &gt; Jim
> &gt;
> &gt; --
> &gt; _______________________________________________
> &gt; AccessD mailing list
> &gt; AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> &gt; http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> &gt; Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> &gt;
>
>
> --
> _______________________________________________
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
>
>
>

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr  8 08:35:45 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 09:35:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved
In-Reply-To: <010501c41d17$9b574e60$48619a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <20040408133605.DTMV27618.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Actually, you can using SQL. So, if you don't have to use ADO/DAO, just use
SQL. On the other hand, I think you may be able to do it with ADOX? Not
positive on that one -- I know you can manipulate the field using ADOX, but
don't remember for sure about creating it. 

Susan H. 

Hi Dave
That was it
It seems you can't create an autonumber from code You first create a  number
field then change the attributes of that newly created field to  (drum roll)
***dbAutoIncrField*** Then that tells access it's an Autonumber

No wonder the help wasn't
I wouldn't have discovered/figured this by myself in a million years.
Many many thanks

and many thanks to those who responded

(I was just going through variations on Susan's suggestion when your post
came in)

This list is brilliant

Darren



From Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us  Thu Apr  8 08:46:10 2004
From: Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us (Gowey Mike W)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 07:46:10 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Removing Exit ability
Message-ID: <05EBB8A3BEB95B4F8216BE4EF486077802AA3EB5@srciml1.ds.doc.state.or.us>

 
Hi Everyone,

Could anyone please tell me how I can remove the ability for the user to
click on the X to close Access, I want them to only be able to use the
buttons I have created on the forms to exit the program.

Thanks for any help.


Mike Gowey, MCSA, A+, ACE
Team Leader - SRCI
Information Systems & Services Division





From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Apr  8 08:52:18 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 23:52:18 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved
References: <20040408133605.DTMV27618.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <008201c41d70$b6469c40$21669a89@DDICK>

Thanks Susan
I struggle - and I mean struggle - with VBA
I have seen code examples in the 2000 Developer for ADOX. It looks quite relative to VB and VBA but I think I will give it a miss.
:-))
(Thanks but no thanks - luddite here)

Have a great day and a safe Easter

Thanks again for your help

Darren

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:35 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved


> Actually, you can using SQL. So, if you don't have to use ADO/DAO, just use
> SQL. On the other hand, I think you may be able to do it with ADOX? Not
> positive on that one -- I know you can manipulate the field using ADOX, but
> don't remember for sure about creating it.
>
> Susan H.
>
> Hi Dave
> That was it
> It seems you can't create an autonumber from code You first create a  number
> field then change the attributes of that newly created field to  (drum roll)
> ***dbAutoIncrField*** Then that tells access it's an Autonumber
>
> No wonder the help wasn't
> I wouldn't have discovered/figured this by myself in a million years.
> Many many thanks
>
> and many thanks to those who responded
>
> (I was just going through variations on Susan's suggestion when your post
> came in)
>
> This list is brilliant
>
> Darren
>
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr  8 08:54:30 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 09:54:30 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved
In-Reply-To: <008201c41d70$b6469c40$21669a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <20040408135450.EGRN27618.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Chicken. ;) ... And thank you -- will be stuffing eggs before the day is
through -- and have a great weekend yourself! :) 

I haven't had a peep yet -- not one. 

FWIW, if you don't get this resolved I'd be glad to hand over the exact code
-- I have it somewhere, just a matter of finding it. :) 

Susan H. 

Thanks Susan
I struggle - and I mean struggle - with VBA I have seen code examples in the
2000 Developer for ADOX. It looks quite relative to VB and VBA but I think I
will give it a miss.
:-))
(Thanks but no thanks - luddite here)

Have a great day and a safe Easter

Thanks again for your help

Darren




From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Apr  8 09:01:42 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 00:01:42 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Removing Exit ability
References: <05EBB8A3BEB95B4F8216BE4EF486077802AA3EB5@srciml1.ds.doc.state.or.us>
Message-ID: <009401c41d72$061b34a0$21669a89@DDICK>

Hi Mike
In the property sheet of you form
Have a look on the FORMAT tab (The first one)
About half way down Under Max and Min options is the option to Set the Close button
Yes = There is on
No = There aint one (well there is but it's disabled)

oops Just re-read your post You wanna apply this to Access not a form

When the dB starts have a form open with its visible property set to false
docmd.OpenForm "frmYourFormNameHere",acNormal ,,,,acHidden
Then on the Unload event of that hidden form have something like this

Private Sub Form_Unload(Cancel As Integer)

On Error GoTo Err_Form_Unload

    If MsgBox("Are you sure you want to CLOSE 'the name of your application here' completely?", vbQuestion + vbYesNo, "Close 'Name
of Your Application Name here?") = vbYes Then
        DoCmd.Quit acQuitSaveAll
    Else
        Cancel = true
    End If

Exit_Form_Unload:
Exit Sub

Err_Form_Unload:
MsgBox Err.Number & "  " & Err.Description, vbCritical, "Error in Form_Unload module"
Resume Exit_Form_Unload

End sub

Hope this helps

Darren

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gowey Mike W" <Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:46 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Removing Exit ability


>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> Could anyone please tell me how I can remove the ability for the user to
> click on the X to close Access, I want them to only be able to use the
> buttons I have created on the forms to exit the program.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
>
> Mike Gowey, MCSA, A+, ACE
> Team Leader - SRCI
> Information Systems & Services Division
>
>
>
> -- 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr  8 09:08:13 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 10:08:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Removing Exit ability
In-Reply-To: <05EBB8A3BEB95B4F8216BE4EF486077802AA3EB5@srciml1.ds.doc.state.or.us>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPAEHFHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Access cannot close if it cannot close all forms.

1) In the form with your button, create a boolean variable in the code
header.
2) In the form Open set the boolean false - in fact it will already be false
but still... that's the theory.
3) In the form's Unload check if the bln is true and if not set cancel =
true.  This prevents the form closing thus prevents Access closing.
4) In the command button to close the form, set the boolean true (allow the
close) then run the code that closes Access.

dim blnAllowClose as boolean

Private Sub Form_Open(Cancel As Integer)
    	blnAllowClose =false
End Sub

Private Sub Form_Unload(Cancel As Integer)
    	if blnAllowClose = false then
		cancel = true
    	end if
End Sub

Private Sub cmdClose_Click()
On Error GoTo Err_cmdClose_Click

	blnAllowClose = true
	Application.Quit acQuitSaveNone

Exit_cmdClose_Click:
    Exit Sub

Err_cmdClose_Click:
    MsgBox Err.Description
    Resume Exit_cmdClose_Click

End Sub

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 9:46 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Removing Exit ability



Hi Everyone,

Could anyone please tell me how I can remove the ability for the user to
click on the X to close Access, I want them to only be able to use the
buttons I have created on the forms to exit the program.

Thanks for any help.


Mike Gowey, MCSA, A+, ACE
Team Leader - SRCI
Information Systems & Services Division



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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Apr  8 09:16:42 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 00:16:42 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved
References: <20040408135450.EGRN27618.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <00a501c41d74$1eed3350$21669a89@DDICK>

Chicken - yes
I have people here wanting me to Learn ASP and PHP pronto, but I don't wanna (says he, stamping his foot)

Thanks again
I did get it solved using the create Number method then changing the attributes of the number data type to 
something very similar to what you described in one 
of your original posts

BTW - you gonna share the splenda choc chip recipe with the list? :-))

Darren


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:54 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved


> Chicken. ;) ... And thank you -- will be stuffing eggs before the day is
> through -- and have a great weekend yourself! :) 
> 
> I haven't had a peep yet -- not one. 
> 
> FWIW, if you don't get this resolved I'd be glad to hand over the exact code
> -- I have it somewhere, just a matter of finding it. :) 
> 
> Susan H. 
> 
> Thanks Susan
> I struggle - and I mean struggle - with VBA I have seen code examples in the
> 2000 Developer for ADOX. It looks quite relative to VB and VBA but I think I
> will give it a miss.
> :-))
> (Thanks but no thanks - luddite here)
> 
> Have a great day and a safe Easter
> 
> Thanks again for your help
> 
> Darren
> 
> 
> -- 
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> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com


From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr  8 09:18:58 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 10:18:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved
In-Reply-To: <00a501c41d74$1eed3350$21669a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <20040408141918.EHLH17967.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>


BTW - you gonna share the splenda choc chip recipe with the list? :-))

Arrggg -- I'd get blasted by the moderators. I'll post it at the web site.
:) 

Susan H. 



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr  8 09:33:51 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 10:33:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Tivo Series1 upgrades
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPOEHFHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

In case anyone is interested, I do hard drive upgrades to TIVOs.  Anyone
interested in getting their TIVO upgraded contact me off line @
jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr  8 09:33:51 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 10:33:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved
In-Reply-To: <20040408141918.EHLH17967.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPAEHGHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Hey, splenda chocolate chip recipes are definitely on topic for a group of
Access developers!

;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:19 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved



BTW - you gonna share the splenda choc chip recipe with the list? :-))

Arrggg -- I'd get blasted by the moderators. I'll post it at the web site.
:)

Susan H.

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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Apr  8 09:45:44 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 00:45:44 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved
References: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPAEHGHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <00c101c41d78$2ce6f0f0$21669a89@DDICK>

Outstanding
Coffee and Chocolate - a developers feast
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 12:33 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved


> Hey, splenda chocolate chip recipes are definitely on topic for a group of
> Access developers!
> 
> ;-)
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:19 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved
> 
> 
> 
> BTW - you gonna share the splenda choc chip recipe with the list? :-))
> 
> Arrggg -- I'd get blasted by the moderators. I'll post it at the web site.
> :)
> 
> Susan H.
> 
> --
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> 
> 
> 
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Apr  8 10:41:58 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 15:41:58 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved
Message-ID: <20040408144155.4A95D25E248@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Quick, while the moderators' backs are turned. (Well it is nearly Friday,
and Good Friday at that.)
--
Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



--------- Original Message --------
From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved
Date: 08/04/04 14:36

>
> Hey, splenda chocolate chip recipes are definitely on topic for a group of
> Access developers!
>
> ;-)
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:19 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved
>
>
>
> BTW - you gonna share the splenda choc chip recipe with the list? :-))
>
> Arrggg -- I'd get blasted by the moderators. I'll post it at the web site.
> :)
>
> Susan H.
>
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>
>
>

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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Thu Apr  8 09:54:15 2004
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 10:54:15 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Access DLL Weirdness
Message-ID: <806536912C472E4A9D6515DF2E57261E2397AD@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Hi All,

I installed Office 2000 Pre about a year ago on my PC.
Everything has worked perfectly up until two weeks ago.
I started to get errors that indicated a database communication failure.
For example: "Method 'Recordset' of object '_Form_frmTNCOComputers' failed"

Because this problem only occurred during VBA code execute and not on bound
forms that have no code, I assumed it was a reference problem.
I checked my references and DAO3.6 was not referenced! Weird! So when I
tried to reference it, I received and error message or "Error loading DLL".
Upon investigate it appears the reference was looking for dao360.dll in
C:\Windows\system32 (I am using WinXP Pro), which is strange because the DAO
files are in C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\DAO.

When I check other installations of Access 2000 on other computers the
reference points to the correct place.

Anyone have any ideas on would cause this?
Also, how do I remove the incorrect reference location before I reregister
the dll from the proper location?

Thanks,
Joe Rojas




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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Apr  8 09:53:55 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 07:53:55 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Linking speeds
In-Reply-To: <001901c41d66$5cb80510$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIIEJDCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Williams

I did a cursory look but did not find anything specific but I will try
again.

Thanks
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of William
Hindman
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 5:38 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linking speeds


Jim ...did you check the dba archives? ...this has several possible causes
and solutions that have been covered extensively :)

Political advertising is the price of our chains ...my name is William
Hindman and I approve this message :)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Lawrence (AccessD)" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:57 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Linking speeds


> Hi All:
>
> I seldom use 'bound' forms in Access...SQL and Oracles work better
'unbound'
> but this is not the question or a provocation.
>
> I am having a 'bound' problem with a slow connection/linking from the FE
to
> the BE. The users do not seem concerned but the initial connection times
> seem unreasonable long. Some messages have been posted to this issue on
the
> list but I missed them.
>
> Would anyone know how to speed up linking time? (Access2002)
>
> TIA
> Jim
>
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From Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us  Thu Apr  8 10:06:50 2004
From: Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us (Gowey Mike W)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 09:06:50 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Removing Exit ability
Message-ID: <05EBB8A3BEB95B4F8216BE4EF486077802AA3EBA@srciml1.ds.doc.state.or.us>

Thank you Colby that works like a charm. 


Mike Gowey, MCSA, A+, ACE
Team Leader - SRCI
Information Systems & Services Division

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 8:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Removing Exit ability

Access cannot close if it cannot close all forms.

1) In the form with your button, create a boolean variable in the code
header.
2) In the form Open set the boolean false - in fact it will already be
false but still... that's the theory.
3) In the form's Unload check if the bln is true and if not set cancel =
true.  This prevents the form closing thus prevents Access closing.
4) In the command button to close the form, set the boolean true (allow
the
close) then run the code that closes Access.

dim blnAllowClose as boolean

Private Sub Form_Open(Cancel As Integer)
    	blnAllowClose =false
End Sub

Private Sub Form_Unload(Cancel As Integer)
    	if blnAllowClose = false then
		cancel = true
    	end if
End Sub

Private Sub cmdClose_Click()
On Error GoTo Err_cmdClose_Click

	blnAllowClose = true
	Application.Quit acQuitSaveNone

Exit_cmdClose_Click:
    Exit Sub

Err_cmdClose_Click:
    MsgBox Err.Description
    Resume Exit_cmdClose_Click

End Sub

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 9:46 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Removing Exit ability



Hi Everyone,

Could anyone please tell me how I can remove the ability for the user to
click on the X to close Access, I want them to only be able to use the
buttons I have created on the forms to exit the program.

Thanks for any help.


Mike Gowey, MCSA, A+, ACE
Team Leader - SRCI
Information Systems & Services Division



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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 11:13:07 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Your document
Message-ID: <200404081513.i38FD3B15984@databaseadvisors.com>


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr  8 10:26:43 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 11:26:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Removing Exit ability
In-Reply-To: <05EBB8A3BEB95B4F8216BE4EF486077802AA3EBA@srciml1.ds.doc.state.or.us>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPIEHHHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Always welcome!

John W. Colby 
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Removing Exit ability


Thank you Colby that works like a charm. 


Mike Gowey, MCSA, A+, ACE
Team Leader - SRCI
Information Systems & Services Division

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 8:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Removing Exit ability

Access cannot close if it cannot close all forms.

1) In the form with your button, create a boolean variable in the code
header.
2) In the form Open set the boolean false - in fact it will already be
false but still... that's the theory.
3) In the form's Unload check if the bln is true and if not set cancel =
true.  This prevents the form closing thus prevents Access closing.
4) In the command button to close the form, set the boolean true (allow
the
close) then run the code that closes Access.

dim blnAllowClose as boolean

Private Sub Form_Open(Cancel As Integer)
    	blnAllowClose =false
End Sub

Private Sub Form_Unload(Cancel As Integer)
    	if blnAllowClose = false then
		cancel = true
    	end if
End Sub

Private Sub cmdClose_Click()
On Error GoTo Err_cmdClose_Click

	blnAllowClose = true
	Application.Quit acQuitSaveNone

Exit_cmdClose_Click:
    Exit Sub

Err_cmdClose_Click:
    MsgBox Err.Description
    Resume Exit_cmdClose_Click

End Sub

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 9:46 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Removing Exit ability



Hi Everyone,

Could anyone please tell me how I can remove the ability for the user to
click on the X to close Access, I want them to only be able to use the
buttons I have created on the forms to exit the program.

Thanks for any help.


Mike Gowey, MCSA, A+, ACE
Team Leader - SRCI
Information Systems & Services Division



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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Apr  8 10:31:12 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 08:31:12 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Odd messages in List
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8632C52E@infoserver01.infostat.local>

What is going on with the "Re: Your Document" messages I'm seeing in the
list, complete with test attachment and a body of 

"Hi!
Please read the attached document."

It's surprising my spam filters aren't screening this, since it
certainly looks like junk mail to me.

Charlotte Foust


From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Thu Apr  8 10:35:39 2004
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 16:35:39 +0100 
Subject: [AccessD] Remove non-alphanumeric characters
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C07B@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>

Good afternoon all!

I have a requirement to strip a string of all non-alphanumeric characters.
In addition I wanted to change all upper-case characters to lower-case. I
could not find any ready-rolled solution so I've come up with the code
below.

Can anyone think of a more simple way of doing this?

Regards!

Chris Foote (UK)

------------(Code snippet begin)-------------



'--------------------------------------------------------------
' This piece of (almost) original code is based upon M$
' Knowledge Base Article 99938. It removes all non-alphanumeric
' characters from a string. It also converts upper-case letters
' to their lower-case versions. It works by converting the
' incoming characters into the ASCII equivalent checking
' to verify what they are and then converting them back again.
' Chris Foote 08/04/04
'--------------------------------------------------------------
Dim strClean As String
Dim intPos As Integer
Dim strMixed As String
Dim intMixed As Integer

intPos = 1

If IsNull(spAlphaNum) Then Exit Function

For intPos = 1 To Len(spAlphaNum)
    intMixed = Asc(Mid(spAlphaNum, intPos, 1))
        Select Case intMixed
            Case 48 To 57   ' Numeric
                strClean = strClean + Chr(intMixed)
            Case 65 To 90   ' Uppercase Alpha
                strClean = strClean + Chr(intMixed + 32)
            Case 97 To 122   ' Lowercase Alpha
              strClean = strClean + Chr(intMixed)
            Case Else
            
        End Select
Next intPos

fctRemNonAlpha = strClean

End Function


From djkr at msn.com  Thu Apr  8 10:40:40 2004
From: djkr at msn.com (DJK(John) Robinson)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 16:40:40 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Odd messages in List
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8632C52E@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <000201c41d7f$d8945b70$3500a8c0@dabsight>

Hi Charlotte

I'm not getting any messages like that.  They are almost certainly not
really from the list at all, but are viruses spoofing the sender address
(common these days).  Someone on the list, past or present, has the
virus/worm.

John


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Charlotte Foust
> Sent: 08 April 2004 16:31
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Odd messages in List
> 
> 
> What is going on with the "Re: Your Document" messages I'm 
> seeing in the list, complete with test attachment and a body of 
> 
> "Hi!
> Please read the attached document."
> 
> It's surprising my spam filters aren't screening this, since 
> it certainly looks like junk mail to me.
> 
> Charlotte Foust
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From my.lists at verizon.net  Thu Apr  8 10:47:11 2004
From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia)
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 08:47:11 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Odd messages in List
In-Reply-To: <000201c41d7f$d8945b70$3500a8c0@dabsight>
References: <000201c41d7f$d8945b70$3500a8c0@dabsight>
Message-ID: <407573FF.7050809@verizon.net>

I found in my "hotmail" account a returned message that was being 
reported as having a virus to someone I know I did not send any email 
to...and it said it was from my hotmail account... most bizar.



DJK(John) Robinson said the following on 4/8/2004 8:40 AM:

>Hi Charlotte
>
>I'm not getting any messages like that.  They are almost certainly not
>really from the list at all, but are viruses spoofing the sender address
>(common these days).  Someone on the list, past or present, has the
>virus/worm.
>
>John
>
>
>  
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
>>Charlotte Foust
>>Sent: 08 April 2004 16:31
>>To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>Subject: [AccessD] Odd messages in List
>>
>>
>>What is going on with the "Re: Your Document" messages I'm 
>>seeing in the list, complete with test attachment and a body of 
>>
>>"Hi!
>>Please read the attached document."
>>
>>It's surprising my spam filters aren't screening this, since 
>>it certainly looks like junk mail to me.
>>
>>Charlotte Foust
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Apr  8 11:55:07 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 16:55:07 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Remove non-alphanumeric characters
Message-ID: <20040408155504.57EDE2A0591@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Well personally I'd find it easier to read if you just compared characters,
so. Also, as long as your Option Compare doesn't cause case-sensitive
comparisoins, you need only test for a-z once.

For intPos = 1 To Len(spAlphaNum)
strChar = Mid(spAlphaNum, intPos, 1)
Select Case strChar
Case "0" To "9"   ' Numeric
strClean = strClean + strChar
Case "a" To "z"   ' Uppercase Alpha
strClean = strClean + Ucase(strChar)
Case Else
End Select
Next intPos

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--------- Original Message --------
From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] Remove non-alphanumeric characters
Date: 08/04/04 15:39

>
> Good afternoon all!
>
> I have a requirement to strip a string of all non-alphanumeric characters.
> In addition I wanted to change all upper-case characters to lower-case. I
> could not find any ready-rolled solution so I've come up with the code
> below.
>
> Can anyone think of a more simple way of doing this?
>
> Regards!
>
> Chris Foote (UK)
>
> ------------(Code snippet begin)-------------
>
>
>
> '--------------------------------------------------------------
> ' This piece of (almost) original code is based upon M$
> ' Knowledge Base Article 99938. It removes all non-alphanumeric
> ' characters from a string. It also converts upper-case letters
> ' to their lower-case versions. It works by converting the
> ' incoming characters into the ASCII equivalent checking
> ' to verify what they are and then converting them back again.
> ' Chris Foote 08/04/04
> '--------------------------------------------------------------
> Dim strClean As String
> Dim intPos As Integer
> Dim strMixed As String
> Dim intMixed As Integer
>
> intPos = 1
>
> If IsNull(spAlphaNum) Then Exit Function
>
> For intPos = 1 To Len(spAlphaNum)
>     intMixed = Asc(Mid(spAlphaNum, intPos, 1))
>         Select Case intMixed
>             Case 48 To 57   ' Numeric
>                 strClean = strClean + Chr(intMixed)
>             Case 65 To 90   ' Uppercase Alpha
>                 strClean = strClean + Chr(intMixed + 32)
>             Case 97 To 122   ' Lowercase Alpha
>               strClean = strClean + Chr(intMixed)
>             Case Else
>
>         End Select
> Next intPos
>
> fctRemNonAlpha = strClean
>
> End Function
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From caa at highway.com.br  Thu Apr  8 11:07:05 2004
From: caa at highway.com.br (Carlos Alberto Alves)
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 13:07:05 -0300
Subject: [AccessD] Code help please
In-Reply-To: <016401c41b8f$9df9bec0$48619a89@DDICK>
References: <000001c41b85$d87c94a0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
	<016401c41b8f$9df9bec0$48619a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <opr55a13qeeuy8y3@mail.dh.com.br>

On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 14:28:31 +1000, Darren DICK <d.dick at uws.edu.au> wrote:

> Hi Joe
> Try something like this
> Under the
> Compare Database and option explicit declarations type
> gIntFormIsDirty as integer
> Then add
>
> Private Sub Form_Load()
> gIntFormIsDirty  = False
> end sub
>
> then add
>
> Private Sub Form_Dirty(Cancel As Integer)
> gIntFormIsDirty  = true
> End Sub
>
> then
>
> Private Sub ps_SomeCodeToRun()
>
> 'Joe get whatever the PK is and see if there is a value in it
>     if not isnull(Me.MyPK) then 'There is  a value so we are on a live 
> record
>         if gIntFormIsDirty  = true THEN
>             Msgbox "we are on a pre-existing record and the record is 
> dirty"
>         else
>             Msgbox "we are on a pre-existing record but the record IS 
> NOT  dirty"
>         end if
>     else
>         msgbox "We are on a 'new rec' or at least one without a PK"
>     end if
>
> end sub
>
> then in the afterupdate(or whatever) of the control to test
>
> Private sub txtLastName_AfterUpdate()
> ps_SomeCodeToRun
> end sub
>
> Hope this helps
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Hecht" <jmhla at earthlink.net>
> To: "AccessD" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 1:18 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] Code help please
>
>
>> This code is supposed to
>> 1.       Confirm this is an existing record
>> 2.       If the form is dirty
>>
>> Open a message box
>>
>> I need vb yes. I want to go to the next record.
>>
>> Can not find the right method
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>>
>> Private Sub Form_Dirty(Cancel As Integer)
>>
>>     if me.newrecord = false and
>>     If Me.Dirty Then
>>     Dim lngRetval As Long
>>
>>     lngRetval = MsgBox( _
>>         "Data on this form has changed! " & vbCrLf & "" & vbCrLf & "Do
>> you wish to continue?", _
>>         vbYesNoCancel + vbQuestion + vbSystemModal + vbDefaultButton1, _
>>         "Data Has Changed")
>>
>>     Select Case lngRetval
>>         Case vbYes
>>
>>         Add New RECORD
>>
>>         Case vbNo
>>          Forms!frmmasterAddresses!txtLastName.SetFocus
>>
>>
>>
>>         Case vbCancel
>>
>>
>>
>>     End Select
>>
>>    End If
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> End Sub
>>
>>
>>
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Would it not be 'gIntFormIsDirty as boolean'?
;-)
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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Apr  8 11:24:35 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 12:24:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Appointment collisions
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPEEHAHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKKEDJIPAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

John and all,

  For those interested in something like this, you can also do this fairly
easily in query.  I have a sample database made up to show how it's done.

  If anyone would like a copy, e-mail me off list.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:12 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Appointment collisions


For anyone who has never seen the code, Lembit donated the following code
which I documented and placed into a function which checks for appointment
collisions.  I just finished building a set of two queries and a report to
display any collisions between times entered into my billing programs.  I
work on site a lot and if I don't have my laptop I keep an email open which
I then email home to myself with my hours and a brief summary of what I am
doing.  In any case I end up copying that into my billing program every few
days.  I have always "manually" checked my hours to make sure I didn't enter
times in wrong, but a simple report to tell me if I am entering overlapping
times is a must.  There is nothing more embarrassing that billing the
customer twice for the same time!

The following is the function.

Option Compare Database
Option Explicit
'.=========================================================================
'.Copyright 2001 Colby Consulting.  All rights reserved.
'.Phone        :
'.E-mail       : jcolby at colbyconsulting.com
'.=========================================================================
' DO NOT DELETE THE COMMENTS ABOVE.  All other comments in this module
' may be deleted from production code, but lines above must remain.
'--------------------------------------------------------------------------
'.Written By   : John W. Colby
'.Date Created : 12/31/2001
' Rev. History :
'.Description  :
'
' Comments     :
'.-------------------------------------------------------------------------
'.
' ADDITIONAL NOTES:
'
'FUNCTIONS SPECIFIC TO THIS APPLICATION
'
'.
'*+ Compiler directives
#Const DebugPrint = True        'TURNS ON/OFF ALL NORMAL DEBUG PRINTING
THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT
#Const DebugPrintEvent = True  'TURNS ON/OFF ALL EVENT DEBUG PRINTING
THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT
'*- Compiler directives
'*+ Module constant declaration
Private Const mcstrModuleName As String = "basApp"    'THE NAME OF THIS
MODULE
'*- Module constant declaration
'*+ Module Variable declaration
'*- Module Variable declaration

Public Function TCComputeTime(ST, ET, SD, ED, Billable, Optional
blnComputeBillable As Boolean = True) As Double
On Error GoTo Err_TCComputeTime
Dim Time As Double
    If blnComputeBillable Then
        If Billable = True Then
            Time = DateDiff("n", ST, ET) / 60
            If DateDiff("d", SD, ED) = 1 Then
               Time = Time + 24
            End If
            '   Time = Format(Time, "00.00")
            Time = Format(Time, "00.0000")
            TCComputeTime = Time
        Else
            TCComputeTime = 0
        End If
    Else
        Time = DateDiff("n", ST, ET) / 60
        If DateDiff("d", SD, ED) = 1 Then
           Time = Time + 24
        End If
        '   Time = Format(Time, "00.00")
        Time = Format(Time, "00.0000")
        TCComputeTime = Time
    End If
Exit_TCComputeTime:
Exit Function
Err_TCComputeTime:
    Select Case Err
    Case 0      '.insert Errors you wish to ignore here
        Resume Next
    Case Else   '.All other errors will trap
        Beep
        MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in Function basApp.TCComputeTime"
        Resume Exit_TCComputeTime
    End Select
    Resume 0    '.FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function

'Comments  :
'Parameters:
'Sets      :
'Returns   :   CURRENT TIME ROUNDED UP OR DOWN TO 10 MINUTE INTERVALS
'Created by: Colby Consulting
'Created   : 9/29/98 11:00:35 AM
Function ccRoundTimeOld(Optional intRoundInterval As Integer = 10)
On Error GoTo Err_ccRoundTime

Dim dtmTime As Date          'HOLDS THE CURRENT TIME FOR MANIPULATION
Dim intMin As Integer        'MINUTE PORTION OF THE TIME VALUE
Dim intTarget As Integer   'TARGET MINUTES TO ROUND TO
Dim intBillRound As Integer   '1/2 THE INTERVAL
Dim intRoundAmt As Integer 'THE AMOUNT TO ROUND UP OR DOWN


   intBillRound = intRoundInterval / 2
   dtmTime = Time()
   intMin = DatePart("n", dtmTime)

   'ADD THE BILL INTERVAL TO ZERO UNTIL IT IS JUST UNDER THE MINUTES
   Do While intTarget + intRoundInterval <= intMin
      intTarget = intTarget + intRoundInterval
   Loop

   'FIGURE OUT IF WE'RE OVER OR UNDER THE HALF WAY POINT OF THE BILL
INTERVAL
   'AND ADD OR SUBTRACT THE CORRECT AMOUNT AS NEEDED
   If intMin - intTarget >= intBillRound Then
      intTarget = intTarget + intRoundInterval
      intRoundAmt = intTarget - intMin
      dtmTime = DateAdd("n", intRoundAmt, dtmTime)
   Else
      intRoundAmt = intTarget - intMin
      dtmTime = DateAdd("n", intRoundAmt, dtmTime)
   End If

   'ROUND OFF THE SECONDS TO ZERO
   dtmTime = DatePart("h", dtmTime) & ":" & DatePart("n", dtmTime) & ":00"

   'PASS BACK THE VALUE
   ccRoundTimeOld = dtmTime

Exit_ccRoundTime:
Exit Function

Err_ccRoundTime:
   Select Case Err
   Case 0      'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
      Resume Next
   Case Else   'All other errors will trap
      Beep
      MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in function Module1.ccRoundTime"
   Resume Exit_ccRoundTime
   End Select
   Resume 0 'FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function

Function ccRoundTime(ByVal varTime As Variant, Optional ByVal intRound As
Integer = 10) As Variant

' ccRoundTime returns varTime rounded to hours and minutes by intRound.
' intRound is the rounding value in minutes.
'
' Examples:
' ccRoundTime(#15:52:30#,15) returns 15:45:00.
' ccRoundTime(varTime,120) returns varTime rounded to even hours.
' ccRoundTime(varTime,6) returns varTime rounded to tens of an hour.
'
' (c) 1997, Cactus Data ApS, Copenhagen.
' May be freely used or modified.

On Error GoTo Err_ccRoundTime
' Limit intRound to minut count for one day.
intRound = intRound Mod (24 * 60)

If IsDate(varTime) And (intRound > 0) Then
    ' Round seconds to minutes.
    varTime = TimeSerial(Hour(varTime), Minute(varTime),
CInt(Second(varTime) / 60) * 60)
    ' Return varTime rounded by intRound using hours calculated as minutes.
    ccRoundTime = TimeSerial(0, CInt((Hour(varTime) * 60 + Minute(varTime))
/ intRound) * intRound, 0)
Else
    ' Return varTime as is.
    ccRoundTime = varTime
End If

Exit_ccRoundTime:
    Exit Function

Err_ccRoundTime:
    ccRoundTime = 0
    Resume Exit_ccRoundTime

End Function

Function C2DbPopulateInvLI(frm As Form, strSQL As String)
On Error GoTo Err_C2DbPopulateInvLI
    MsgBox "strsql"
Exit_C2DbPopulateInvLI:
Exit Function
Err_C2DbPopulateInvLI:
    Select Case Err
    Case 0      '.insert Errors you wish to ignore here
        Resume Next
    Case Else   '.All other errors will trap
        Beep
        MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in Function
basApp.C2DbPopulateInvLI"
        Resume Exit_C2DbPopulateInvLI
    End Select
    Resume 0    '.FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function

'Comments  :    THANKS TO LEMBIT SOOBIK
'there is a 'simple' equation which defines a conflict in appointments:
'let's name the starting point of an existing appointment Se, endpoint Ee
'and for the new appointment to be tested the starting point St, endpoint Et
'now you can simply check
'
'If St < Ee AND Et > Se
'
'then you have a conflict.
'you can easily visualize that by following drawing
'
'_________Se______Ee______
'1_St__Et
'2_St_________Et
'3_St__________________Et
'4___________St_Et
'5___________St________Et
'6_____________________St__Et
'
'As you can see, only cases 2, 3, 4, 5 have a conflict. case 1 does not have
a conflict because it ends before the existing one starts (Et < Se) and 6
does not have a conflict since it starts after the existing ends (St > Ee.
'
'Parameters:
'Sets      :
'Returns   :
'Created by: Colby Consulting
'Created   : 6/25/99 11:43:56 AM
Function ccApptCollision(IDNew As Long, dtmSTNew As Date, dtmETNew As Date,
_
                        IDExist As Long, dtmSTExist As Date, dtmETExist As
Date) As Boolean
On Error GoTo Err_ccApptCollision
#If boolELE Then
    Call gProcStack.EnterProc("ccApptCollision", "Module1")
#End If

    'CHECK IF WE ARE COMPARING A RECORD TO ITSELF
    If IDNew = IDExist Then
        ccApptCollision = False
        Exit Function
    End If

    'CHECK FOR COLLISIONS
    If (dtmSTNew < dtmETExist) And (dtmETNew > dtmSTExist) Then
        ccApptCollision = True
    Else
        ccApptCollision = False
    End If

Exit_ccApptCollision:
#If boolELE Then
    Call gProcStack.ExitProc("ccApptCollision")
#End If
Exit Function

Err_ccApptCollision:
#If boolELE Then
    WriteErrorLog Err
#End If
    Select Case Err
    Case 0      'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
        Resume Next
    Case Else   'All other errors will trap
        Beep
        MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in function
Module1.ccApptCollision"
    Resume Exit_ccApptCollision
    End Select
    Resume 0    'FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function

**********

In my billing I keep the time and date separate.  I then build a query where
I drop the time table in twice, join on the date, then add the time and date
fields into a single value and pass them into the parameters of the function
above as well as the time record IDs from the two records.  Out pops a true
/ false value that tells me if I have a collision.  You can actually do the
same without any join but the result set can get huge in a hurry so you will
need to limit the date ranges.

Again, thanks to Lembit for the logic.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


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From jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com  Thu Apr  8 11:47:37 2004
From: jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com (jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 11:47:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Data Types and Number of Characters
Message-ID: <OFF6F4DDF3.287AA298-ON86256E70.005BA871-86256E70.005C4027@nc.us.bank-dns.com>


Starting to become a rough day and need some help here as.

Given the various data types in access what is the maximum number of
characters for each one.  I am not asking about the storage size, but the
actual characters displayed.

I think an example would help:

An Integer has a storage size of 2 bytes but the number of characters
maximum that will be displayed is 6.

The other data types I am wondering about are:

Long
Single
Double
Currency
Decimal


Hopefully this make sense.  Thanks for any help in advance.





From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Apr  8 11:49:34 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 12:49:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] BEU Enchancement
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKEEDLIPAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Reuben, Andy, Lembit, or Bryan

  I recommended the BEU to someone and their using relinking code in their
app.  The problem is, it quits the app if a relink cannot be performed on a
table, which is the case when you add a new table via the BEU.  To help
developers around that problem, I would suggest adding a function call that
checks the BEU task list and returns True if it finds the table name.
Example:

' In relink code

If Not IsNewBEUTable(strTableName) then
   ' Relink the table
End If


' Function added to BEU.
Public Function IsNewBEUTable(strTableName as string) as integer

  ' Check BEU task table to see if strTableName is added
  ' Pass back True if found or False if not.

End Function

  I'm not sure exactly what needs to be done to actually identifiy the table
in the task list because I haven't dug deep enough, but I thought I'd pass
along the suggestion at least.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net




From becklesd at tiscali.co.uk  Thu Apr  8 11:52:08 2004
From: becklesd at tiscali.co.uk (David beckles)
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 16:52:08 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Re: AccessD Digest, Vol 14, Issue 15
In-Reply-To: <200404081625.i38GPIB13154@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <200404081625.i38GPIB13154@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <40758338.1040002@tiscali.co.uk>

Mike,
Why not take a look at Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 245746
ACC2000: How to Disable the Close Button (X) on the Access Application
Window
at
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=245746
It might be what you are looking for.


accessd-request at databaseadvisors.com wrote:

>Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 07:46:10 -0600
>From: "Gowey Mike W" <Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us>
>Subject: [AccessD] Removing Exit ability
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID:
>	<05EBB8A3BEB95B4F8216BE4EF486077802AA3EB5 at srciml1.ds.doc.state.or.us>
>Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>
> 
>Hi Everyone,
>
>Could anyone please tell me how I can remove the ability for the user to
>click on the X to close Access, I want them to only be able to use the
>buttons I have created on the forms to exit the program.
>
>Thanks for any help.
>
>
>Mike Gowey, MCSA, A+, ACE
>Team Leader - SRCI
>Information Systems & Services Division
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>


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From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca  Thu Apr  8 12:11:31 2004
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 13:11:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] BEU Enchancement
Message-ID: <s0754f89.020@cbc.ca>

I've ran across this problem, or one very similar, in the past couple of
weeks.

I won't say this is the prefered fix for it, since this is Reuben's
function, but it's what I did to make it work. Please feel free to pass
this on to the person using it:

In the beuDBAValidateBEPathnction of the basbeuDBAisdbuptodate module:

Maybe 15 lines down, or so, the line that starts, and continues on for
4 lines
strSQL = "SELECT ....

replace it with, and watch fro wrapping:

strSQL = "SELECT tblDBAModifyDatabase.ParameterValue,
tblDBAModifyDatabaseMods.HowCounter" _
    & " FROM tblDBAModifyDatabaseMods INNER JOIN tblDBAModifyDatabase
ON tblDBAModifyDatabaseMods.ModNumber = tblDBAModifyDatabase.ModNumber"
_
    & " WHERE tblDBAModifyDatabaseMods.WhatCounter=2 AND
tblDBAModifyDatabaseMods.HowCounter=2" _
    & " AND tblDBAModifyDatabaseMods.State<>-1;"

What this does is allows the link validation to take place on a table
added by the BEU as long as it's was added correctly and had it's mod
state cahnged to True.

Now, I am using an Alpha of V2, so (s)he *may* need to tweak it a bit
for V 1.58, but I don't think it will be necessary.

Bryan Carbonnell
bryan_carbonnelL at cbc.ca


>>> jimdettman at earthlink.net 08-Apr-04 12:49:34 PM >>>
Reuben, Andy, Lembit, or Bryan

  I recommended the BEU to someone and their using relinking code in
their
app.  The problem is, it quits the app if a relink cannot be performed
on a
table, which is the case when you add a new table via the BEU.  To
help
developers around that problem, I would suggest adding a function call
that
checks the BEU task list and returns True if it finds the table name.
Example:

' In relink code

If Not IsNewBEUTable(strTableName) then
   ' Relink the table
End If


' Function added to BEU.
Public Function IsNewBEUTable(strTableName as string) as integer

  ' Check BEU task table to see if strTableName is added
  ' Pass back True if found or False if not.

End Function

  I'm not sure exactly what needs to be done to actually identifiy the
table
in the task list because I haven't dug deep enough, but I thought I'd
pass
along the suggestion at least.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net 



From garykjos at hotmail.com  Thu Apr  8 12:13:15 2004
From: garykjos at hotmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 12:13:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Odd messages in List
Message-ID: <BAY2-F404eE2FGwQ21j000006d3@hotmail.com>

>>>>>I found in my "hotmail" account a returned message that was being
>reported as having a virus to someone I know I did not send any email 
>to...and it said it was from my hotmail account... most bizar. - 
>Francisco<<<<<<


I've had some of those too. Certainly a spoof or something similar. I send 
noting from this account accept to the list.

Gary Kjos
garykjos at hotmail.com

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From liz at symphonyinfo.com  Thu Apr  8 12:18:42 2004
From: liz at symphonyinfo.com (Liz Doering)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 12:18:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Data Types and Number of Characters
In-Reply-To: <OFF6F4DDF3.287AA298-ON86256E70.005BA871-86256E70.005C4027@nc.us.bank-dns.com>
Message-ID: <E1BBdAw-0002bC-00@mallard.mail.pas.earthlink.net>

Jeffrey,

This is from Access 97 help:

Byte	Stores numbers from 0 to 255 (no fractions).		1 byte
Integer	Stores numbers from -32,768 to 32,767 (no fractions).	2 bytes
Long Integer	(Default) Stores numbers from -2,147,483,648 to
2,147,483,647 (no fractions).	4 bytes
Single	Stores numbers from -3.402823E38 to -1.401298E-45 for negative
values and from 1.401298E-45 to 3.402823E38 for positive values.	4
bytes
Double	Stores numbers from -1.79769313486231E308 to -4.94065645841247E-324
for negative values and from 1.79769313486231E308 to 4.94065645841247E-324
for positive values.	8 bytes

Hope this helps,


Liz Doering
Symphony Information Services
liz at symphonyinfo.com
www.symphonyinfo.com




-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:48 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Data Types and Number of Characters


Starting to become a rough day and need some help here as.

Given the various data types in access what is the maximum number of
characters for each one.  I am not asking about the storage size, but the
actual characters displayed.

I think an example would help:

An Integer has a storage size of 2 bytes but the number of characters
maximum that will be displayed is 6.

The other data types I am wondering about are:

Long
Single
Double
Currency
Decimal


Hopefully this make sense.  Thanks for any help in advance.



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From bridgetd at biostat.umn.edu  Thu Apr  8 12:57:50 2004
From: bridgetd at biostat.umn.edu (Bridget Doran)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 12:57:50 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Query problem
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0404081256340.22020-100000@smelt.biostat.umn.edu>

Hi all -

Working in Access2K.

I am querying non-normalized data to get records where there are some
duplicate ID's. Each of these duplicate records will have a date field
called DOT. I want only the record for the earlier date in the cases where
there are duplicate ID's. But I also want all the records where there are no
duplicates. How would I query for this?

The problem I am addressing is data that has both static and changing
fields. A patient has basic demographic info as well as multiple transplants
(2 at most). What the original database did here was just added another
record with the same Patient ID and a second transplant date with new info
for many of the fields but not the static/demographic fields. The first
transplant date has the static fields.

I have only querying rights to this database and we are building a research
database that is dependent on it. So, I am attempting to build some
normalization into our research database with queries.

Thanks for any help!

Bridget Doran
Biostatistics Consulting Lab
Division of Public Health
University of Minnesota




From Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com  Thu Apr  8 13:57:18 2004
From: Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com (Jeff Barrows)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 13:57:18 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access 97 and the LDBViewer
Message-ID: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE6305003266C@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com>

I really hope that someone can help me.  I need a copy of the LDBViewer, and cannot seem to get anything from the MS site.  Could someone PLEASE email a copy to me?  (Please change the exe extension to jgb or it will not get thru to me)
 
 


From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Thu Apr  8 14:06:29 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 14:06:29 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Access 97 and the LDBViewer
Message-ID: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE4D4@TAPPEEXCH01>

Sent it to you offline

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Barrows [mailto:Jeff at outbaktech.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 1:57 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Access 97 and the LDBViewer


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I really hope that someone can help me.  I need a copy of the LDBViewer, and
cannot seem to get anything from the MS site.  Could someone PLEASE email a
copy to me?  (Please change the exe extension to jgb or it will not get thru
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From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca  Thu Apr  8 14:22:52 2004
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 15:22:52 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Odd messages in List
Message-ID: <s0756e5f.035@cbc.ca>

The e-mail that you are referring to is, unfortunately one of the new
breed of virii that spoofs the From line and sends itself to every
e-mail address that it can get from you e-mail client (usually Outlook
and Outlook Express).

In this case, and the one yesterday, it is from someone that has
AccessD's e-mail address and some listers addresses in their clients. So
the virus grabs a lister's address and uses that as the from and to the
AccessD list.

Since it is appears that the e-mail is from a lister, the list
ssoftware lets it through to the list :( Luckily the list software
strips anything that is not plain old text, so the viral payload didn't
get to the list.

I can tell you that it appears to actually be from someone that uses,
or used,  Bell South DSL for their internet connection.

Other than that, there is not much we can do :(

Bryan Carbonnell
bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca


>>> cfoust at infostatsystems.com 08-Apr-04 11:31:12 AM >>>
What is going on with the "Re: Your Document" messages I'm seeing in
the
list, complete with test attachment and a body of 

"Hi!
Please read the attached document."

It's surprising my spam filters aren't screening this, since it
certainly looks like junk mail to me.

Charlotte Foust



From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Thu Apr  8 14:38:14 2004
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (reuben at gfconsultants.com)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 15:38:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Textfile
Message-ID: <200404081938.i38Jc7B02421@databaseadvisors.com>


Hi!
The requested textfile is attached!


+++ X-Attachment-Type: document
+++ X-Attachment-Status: no virus found
+++ Powered by the new Panda OnlineAntiVirus
+++ Website: www.pandasoftware.com



From joeget at vgernet.net  Thu Apr  8 16:00:16 2004
From: joeget at vgernet.net (John Eget)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 17:00:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] cumulative record count question
Message-ID: <009a01c41dac$830ffce0$3dc2f63f@Desktop>

I am performing a query on a table and only want to display ten records from the query. Does anyone know how to do a running sum of record count of a table .the table contains  program....sumofRecord   nothing more and the table name is tblProgram. I want to do this in a row or the query
Thanks
John  

From joeget at vgernet.net  Thu Apr  8 16:15:18 2004
From: joeget at vgernet.net (John Eget)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 17:15:18 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] additional info
Message-ID: <00b601c41dae$9c29b2f0$3dc2f63f@Desktop>

I also have a field RecordCount which gives me a value of 1 when the query is run

I am performing a query on a table and only want to display ten records from the query. Does anyone know how to do a running sum of record count of a table .the table contains  program....sumofRecord   nothing more and the table name is tblProgram. I want to do this in a row or the query
Thanks
John  

From Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com  Thu Apr  8 16:50:41 2004
From: Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com (Jeff Barrows)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 16:50:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access 97 and the LDBViewer
Message-ID: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE6305092DC@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com>

Thanks to everyone for the help.  Got the file off list around 4:00pm.  

Jeff Barrows
Outbak Technologies, LLC
Racine, WI
 
www.outbaktech.com 
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Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 2:06 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 97 and the LDBViewer

Sent it to you offline

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To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
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cannot seem to get anything from the MS site.  Could someone PLEASE
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From donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com  Thu Apr  8 16:55:36 2004
From: donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com (Mcgillivray, Donald [ITS])
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 16:55:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] additional info
Message-ID: <6FC1C7A6E7BD5540AB0A8436713C43BF07E96194@PKDWB01C.ad.sprint.com>

John,

It's not clear from your question exactly what you're trying to
accomplish, but you may get some guidance from Access help under the
topic "TopValues".  This feature allows you to limit a query's result to
the top 'N' values, the results depending on the specific selection
criteria and sort settings in the query.  Might help you to get you what
you want.

HTH,
Don McGillivray


From DaveSharpe2 at cox.net  Thu Apr  8 16:58:40 2004
From: DaveSharpe2 at cox.net (Dave Sharpe)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 17:58:40 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved
References: <00ad01c41d0a$98db8be0$48619a89@DDICK><002001c41d13$dc7a4040$dd2f0a44@bcsrkeext6137>
	<010501c41d17$9b574e60$48619a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <008601c41db4$a74a4e00$dd2f0a44@bcsrkeext6137>

Darren

I glad that I could help

Dave
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darren DICK" <d.dick at uws.edu.au>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 11:14 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved


> Hi Dave
> That was it
> It seems you can't create an autonumber from code
> You first create a  number field then change the attributes
> of that newly created field to  (drum roll)  ***dbAutoIncrField***
> Then that tells access it's an Autonumber
>
> No wonder the help wasn't
> I wouldn't have discovered/figured this by myself in a million years.
> Many many thanks
>
> and many thanks to those who responded
>
> (I was just going through variations on Susan's suggestion when your post
came in)
>
> This list is brilliant
>
> Darren
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dave Sharpe" <DaveSharpe2 at cox.net>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 12:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code
>
>
> > Darren
> >
> > I think that this should help
> >
> > http://www.mvps.org/access/tables/tbl0016.htm
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Darren DICK" <d.dick at uws.edu.au>
> > To: "AccessD List" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 9:41 PM
> > Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code
> >
> >
> > > Hello all
> > > I managed to find in the help code for creating fields in tables.
> > Excellent
> > > I can see examples and general info on creating just about every field
> > known to mankind....except Autonumber.
> > >
> > > I am importing a DBF file with no Autonumber
> > >
> > > The field I was going to use a PK in that file is TEXT.
> > >
> > > So..I'm open to suggestions- convert the text field to a number field
or
> > try and add an Auutonumber field and use that
> > >
> > > Any suggestions welcome
> > >
> > > many thanks
> > >
> > > Darren
> > >
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From DaveSharpe2 at cox.net  Thu Apr  8 17:06:21 2004
From: DaveSharpe2 at cox.net (Dave Sharpe)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 18:06:21 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access 97 and the LDBViewer
References: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE6305003266C@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com>
Message-ID: <010f01c41db5$b992fac0$dd2f0a44@bcsrkeext6137>

Jeff

Look here

http://www.microsoft.com/accessdev/articles/jetlund.htm

Dave


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Barrows" <Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 2:57 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Access 97 and the LDBViewer


> I really hope that someone can help me.  I need a copy of the LDBViewer,
and cannot seem to get anything from the MS site.  Could someone PLEASE
email a copy to me?  (Please change the exe extension to jgb or it will not
get thru to me)
>
>
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From DaveSharpe2 at cox.net  Thu Apr  8 17:18:35 2004
From: DaveSharpe2 at cox.net (Dave Sharpe)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 18:18:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] cumulative record count question
References: <009a01c41dac$830ffce0$3dc2f63f@Desktop>
Message-ID: <019001c41db7$6f6ef5a0$dd2f0a44@bcsrkeext6137>

John

try SELECT  TOP 10 * from tblProgram

Dave


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Eget" <joeget at vgernet.net>
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 5:00 PM
Subject: [AccessD] cumulative record count question


I am performing a query on a table and only want to display ten records from
the query. Does anyone know how to do a running sum of record count of a
table .the table contains  program....sumofRecord   nothing more and the
table name is tblProgram. I want to do this in a row or the query
Thanks
John
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From joeget at vgernet.net  Thu Apr  8 18:43:42 2004
From: joeget at vgernet.net (John Eget)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 19:43:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] cumulative record count question
References: <009a01c41dac$830ffce0$3dc2f63f@Desktop>
	<019001c41db7$6f6ef5a0$dd2f0a44@bcsrkeext6137>
Message-ID: <001501c41dc3$573cff20$bec2f63f@Desktop>

The problem is when the 10th thru the 15th record are the same values all of
them show up!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Sharpe" <DaveSharpe2 at cox.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] cumulative record count question


> John
>
> try SELECT  TOP 10 * from tblProgram
>
> Dave
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Eget" <joeget at vgernet.net>
> To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 5:00 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] cumulative record count question
>
>
> I am performing a query on a table and only want to display ten records
from
> the query. Does anyone know how to do a running sum of record count of a
> table .the table contains  program....sumofRecord   nothing more and the
> table name is tblProgram. I want to do this in a row or the query
> Thanks
> John
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Apr  8 18:53:01 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 16:53:01 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Linking speeds
In-Reply-To: <20040408133015.EBA232762E6@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIGEJJCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Andy:

Thanks for that. I will try it right away.

Jim

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Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 7:30 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linking speeds


The main one being to open a connection to the back-end and keep it open for
the duration of the relink, e.g.

Set dbData = DBEngine.Workspaces(0).OpenDatabase(strDataMdb)

As I can vouch, this speeds it up enormously.

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To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linking speeds
Date: 08/04/04 12:42

>
> Jim ...did you check the dba archives? ...this has several possible causes
> and solutions that have been covered extensively :)
>
> Political advertising is the price of our chains ...my name is William
> Hindman and I approve this message :)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: &quot;Jim Lawrence (AccessD)&quot; &lt;accessd at shaw.ca&gt;
> To: &quot;Access Developers discussion and problem solving&quot;
> &lt;accessd at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:57 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] Linking speeds
>
>
> &gt; Hi All:
> &gt;
> &gt; I seldom use 'bound' forms in Access...SQL and Oracles work better
> 'unbound'
> &gt; but this is not the question or a provocation.
> &gt;
> &gt; I am having a 'bound' problem with a slow connection/linking from the
FE
> to
> &gt; the BE. The users do not seem concerned but the initial connection
times
> &gt; seem unreasonable long. Some messages have been posted to this issue
on
> the
> &gt; list but I missed them.
> &gt;
> &gt; Would anyone know how to speed up linking time? (Access2002)
> &gt;
> &gt; TIA
> &gt; Jim
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr  8 19:03:25 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 20:03:25 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] cumulative record count question
In-Reply-To: <001501c41dc3$573cff20$bec2f63f@Desktop>
Message-ID: <20040409000345.QJTG4152.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

You'll need an extra field in your ORDER BY clause

SELECT TOP 10 fldlist
FROM tblProgram
ORDER BY field1, field2

To break the duplicate tie. 

Susan H. 


The problem is when the 10th thru the 15th record are the same values all of
them show up!


> John
>
> try SELECT  TOP 10 * from tblProgram
>
> Dave
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Eget" <joeget at vgernet.net>
> To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 5:00 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] cumulative record count question
>
>
> I am performing a query on a table and only want to display ten records
from
> the query. Does anyone know how to do a running sum of record count of a
> table .the table contains  program....sumofRecord   nothing more and the
> table name is tblProgram. I want to do this in a row or the query
> Thanks
> John
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From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Thu Apr  8 23:17:13 2004
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 09:47:13 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] cumulative record count question
References: <009a01c41dac$830ffce0$3dc2f63f@Desktop><019001c41db7$6f6ef5a0$d
	d2f0a44@bcsrkeext6137> <001501c41dc3$573cff20$bec2f63f@Desktop>
Message-ID: <00a801c41deb$3c65c880$351865cb@winxp>

John,

    You could see my sample db named  RunningCountSum_2K  at Rogers Access Library (other developers section) at the following link -
    http://www.rogersaccesslibrary.com

    The underlying approach could be adapted suitably for your specific needs.

Regards,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------
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  From: John Eget 
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  Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 05:13
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] cumulative record count question


  The problem is when the 10th thru the 15th record are the same values all of
  them show up!

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Dave Sharpe" <DaveSharpe2 at cox.net>
  To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
  <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
  Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 6:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] cumulative record count question


  > John
  >
  > try SELECT  TOP 10 * from tblProgram
  >
  > Dave
  >
  >
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: "John Eget" <joeget at vgernet.net>
  > To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
  > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 5:00 PM
  > Subject: [AccessD] cumulative record count question
  >
  >
  > I am performing a query on a table and only want to display ten records
  from
  > the query. Does anyone know how to do a running sum of record count of a
  > table .the table contains  program....sumofRecord   nothing more and the
  > table name is tblProgram. I want to do this in a row or the query
  > Thanks
  > John



From budge at magicaldesk.com  Fri Apr  9 08:08:36 2004
From: budge at magicaldesk.com (budge at magicaldesk.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 09:08:36 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] My details
Message-ID: <200404091308.i39D8VB10981@databaseadvisors.com>


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From: serbach at new.rr.com (serbach at new.rr.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 09:09:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Important
Message-ID: <200404091308.i39D8xB11384@databaseadvisors.com>


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From serbach at new.rr.com  Fri Apr  9 08:09:44 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 08:09:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query problem
Message-ID: <20040409080944.2104805327.serbach@new.rr.com>

Ms. Doran,

>> I want only the record for the earlier date in the cases where there are duplicate ID's. But I also want all the records where there are no duplicates. How would I query for this? <<

You can ask Access to give you the Minimum of the [DOT] column and get the earliest date for the dupes and still get the non-dupes. The Minimum of a single date is the date itself:

Field: DOT
Table: (Whatever your table is)
Total: Min (You need to select Totals from the Access View menu to see this line)

>> What the original database did here was just added another
record with the same Patient ID and a second transplant date with new info
for many of the fields but not the static/demographic fields. The first
transplant date has the static fields. <<

Not sure I see the problem here. Of course, the "static/demographic" information should be separated into its own table and the transplants should be stored in another with a reference to the patient id.

Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504
 
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From PBudge at cbsol.com  Fri Apr  9 08:27:43 2004
From: PBudge at cbsol.com (PBudge at cbsol.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 08:27:43 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] My details
Message-ID: <OF2C2C426D.A954674C-ON86256E71.0049CA67@cbsol.com>


Ok, this is weird.  That email address no longer even exists and hasn't for
over a year.  Wonder where they got it to spoof it. . .

Pamela G. Budge
PBudge at cbsol.com
Creative Business Solutions


                                                                                                                                               
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr  9 08:49:50 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 09:49:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Query problem
In-Reply-To: <20040409080944.2104805327.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <20040409135009.DXGI1810.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Or, you do a desc sort?

Susan H. 

Ms. Doran,

>> I want only the record for the earlier date in the cases where there 
>> are duplicate ID's. But I also want all the records where there are 
>> no duplicates. How would I query for this? <<

You can ask Access to give you the Minimum of the [DOT] column and get the
earliest date for the dupes and still get the non-dupes. The Minimum of a
single date is the date itself:

Field: DOT
Table: (Whatever your table is)
Total: Min (You need to select Totals from the Access View menu to see this
line)

>> What the original database did here was just added another
record with the same Patient ID and a second transplant date with new info
for many of the fields but not the static/demographic fields. The first
transplant date has the static fields. <<

Not sure I see the problem here. Of course, the "static/demographic"
information should be separated into its own table and the transplants
should be stored in another with a reference to the patient id.

Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504
 
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From jmajchrz at nycap.rr.com  Fri Apr  9 10:02:59 2004
From: jmajchrz at nycap.rr.com (Jeffrey Majchrzak)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 11:02:59 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Creating a DSN via code
Message-ID: <200404091503.i39F36df010970@ms-smtp-01.nyroc.rr.com>

I have an application that is going to have the backend upsized to SQL
Server 2000.  This application sits on about 50 desktops.  Would anyone have
any code examples that I can view to create a DSN connection?  The DSN will
have the same username and password for all users so I would like the code
to auto fill the username and password when creating the DSN.  

 

Thank you in advance for all your help.

 

Jeffrey Majchrzak

Empire Computer Consulting



From DElam at jenkens.com  Fri Apr  9 10:19:58 2004
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 10:19:58 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Creating a DSN via code
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0106BD5F@natexch.jenkens.com>

I got this off of Dev Ashish's site:
This example has trusted security through he NT Login.

**********************************************************

Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

'*********************** Code Start ***************************
'Code by Anthony S. Karre via Dev Ashish's Access Web Page
'
Const JDS_DSN_name = "Franchise2"
Const JDS_Server_name = "DalInt2"   ' Raw IP address is used to avoid NT _
 
Domain name resolution probs.

Private Declare Function RegEnumKeyEx Lib "advapi32.dll" _
Alias "RegEnumKeyExA" _
  (ByVal hKey As Long, _
   ByVal dwIndex As Long, _
   ByVal lpName As String, _
   lpcbName As Long, _
   ByVal lpReserved As Long, _
   ByVal lpClass As String, _
   lpcbClass As Long, _
   ByVal lpftLastWriteTime As String) As Long

Private Declare Function RegOpenKeyEx Lib "advapi32.dll" _
Alias "RegOpenKeyExA" _
    (ByVal hKey As Long, _
    ByVal lpSubKey As String, _
    ByVal ulOptions As Long, _
    ByVal samDesired As Long, phkResult As Long) As Long

Private Declare Function SQLConfigDataSource Lib "odbccp32.dll" _
    (ByVal hwndParent As Long, _
    ByVal fRequest As Integer, _
    ByVal lpszDriver As String, _
    ByVal lpszAttributes As String) As Long

Private Declare Function RegCloseKey Lib "advapi32.dll" _
    (ByVal hKey As Long) As Long

      Const HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE = &H80000002

      Const ERROR_SUCCESS = 0&
      Const SYNCHRONIZE = &H100000
      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_READ = &H20000
      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_WRITE = &H20000
      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_EXECUTE = &H20000
      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_REQUIRED = &HF0000
      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_ALL = &H1F0000
      Const KEY_QUERY_VALUE = &H1
      Const KEY_SET_VALUE = &H2
      Const KEY_CREATE_SUB_KEY = &H4
      Const KEY_ENUMERATE_SUB_KEYS = &H8
      Const KEY_NOTIFY = &H10
      Const KEY_CREATE_LINK = &H20
      Const KEY_READ = ((STANDARD_RIGHTS_READ Or _
                        KEY_QUERY_VALUE Or _
                        KEY_ENUMERATE_SUB_KEYS Or _
                        KEY_NOTIFY) And _
                        (Not SYNCHRONIZE))

      Const REG_DWORD = 4
      Const REG_BINARY = 3
      Const REG_SZ = 1
      
      Const ODBC_ADD_SYS_DSN = 4
      

Function Check_SDSN()

         '  Look for our System Data Source Name.  If we find it, then
great!
         '  If not, then let's create one on the fly.
         
         Dim lngKeyHandle As Long
         Dim lngResult As Long
         Dim lngCurIdx As Long
         Dim strValue As String
         Dim classValue As String
         Dim timeValue As String
         Dim lngValueLen As Long
         Dim classlngValueLen As Long
         Dim lngData As Long
         Dim lngDataLen As Long
         Dim strResult As String
         Dim DSNfound As Long
         Dim syscmdresult As Long

         syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdSetStatus, "Looking for System DSN "
& JDS_DSN_name & " ...")
         
         '  Let's open the registry key that contains all of the
         '  System Data Source Names.
         
         lngResult = RegOpenKeyEx(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, _
                 "SOFTWARE\ODBC\ODBC.INI", _
                  0&, _
                  KEY_READ, _
                  lngKeyHandle)

         If lngResult <> ERROR_SUCCESS Then
             MsgBox "ERROR:  Cannot open the registry key
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ODBC\ODBC.INI." & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
                    "Please make sure that ODBC and the SQL Server ODBC
drivers have been installed." & vbCrLf & _
                    "Contact call your MDTS System Administrator for more
information."
             syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdClearStatus)
             Check_SDSN = -1
         End If
         
         ' Now that the key is open, Let's look among all of
         ' the possible system data source names for the one
         ' we want.

         lngCurIdx = 0
         DSNfound = False
         
         Do
            lngValueLen = 512
            classlngValueLen = 512
            strValue = String(lngValueLen, 0)
            classValue = String(classlngValueLen, 0)
            timeValue = String(lngValueLen, 0)
            lngDataLen = 512

            lngResult = RegEnumKeyEx(lngKeyHandle, _
                                     lngCurIdx, _
                                     strValue, _
                                     lngValueLen, _
                                     0&, _
                                     classValue, _
                                     classlngValueLen, _
                                     timeValue)
            lngCurIdx = lngCurIdx + 1

         If lngResult = ERROR_SUCCESS Then
         
           ' Is this our System Data Source Name?
         
           If strValue = JDS_DSN_name Then
           
             '  It is!  Let's assume everything is good and do nothing.
             
             DSNfound = True
             syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdClearStatus)
         
           End If
           
         End If

         Loop While lngResult = ERROR_SUCCESS And Not DSNfound
         
         Call RegCloseKey(lngKeyHandle)

         If Not DSNfound Then
         
           '  Our System Data Source Name doesn't exist, so let's
           '  try to create it on the fly.
         
           syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdSetStatus, "Creating System DSN " &
JDS_DSN_name & "...")
         
           lngResult = SQLConfigDataSource(0, _
                                           ODBC_ADD_SYS_DSN, _
                                           "SQL Server", _
                                           "DSN=" & JDS_DSN_name & Chr(0) &
_
                                           "Server=" & JDS_Server_name &
Chr(0) & _
                                           "Database=FranchiseReg" & Chr(0)
& _
                                           "UseProcForPrepare=Yes" & Chr(0)
& _
                                           "Network=dbmssocn" & Chr(0) & _
                                           "Description=Franchise" & Chr(0)
& Chr(0))
                       
           If lngResult = False Then
           
             MsgBox "ERROR:  Could not create the System DSN " &
JDS_DSN_name & "." & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
                    "Please make sure that the SQL Server ODBC drivers have
been installed." & vbCrLf & _
                    "Contact your System Administrator for more
information."
                    
             syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdClearStatus)
             Check_SDSN = -1

           End If
           
         End If
         
         syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdClearStatus)
         Check_SDSN = 0

End Function
'*********************** Code End ***************************



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From: Jeffrey Majchrzak [mailto:jmajchrz at nycap.rr.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 10:03 AM
To: accessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Creating a DSN via code


I have an application that is going to have the backend upsized to SQL
Server 2000.  This application sits on about 50 desktops.  Would anyone have
any code examples that I can view to create a DSN connection?  The DSN will
have the same username and password for all users so I would like the code
to auto fill the username and password when creating the DSN.  

 

Thank you in advance for all your help.

 

Jeffrey Majchrzak

Empire Computer Consulting

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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Fri Apr  9 10:23:45 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 10:23:45 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Creating a DSN via code
Message-ID: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE4E5@TAPPEEXCH01>

First of all, I would advise against system/user DSNs.  Access 2000 and
greater allow the use of file DSNs, where the connection information is
embedded within the table/query connection string.  Fewer configuration
issues, and no chance of the user screwing up your application by playing
around with control panel settings.

That being said, there are a few valid reasons to use a system DSN (legacy
access apps, for example).  I have accomplished this by exporting the
appropriate registry settings to a textfile ending in .reg.  Here is an
example of creating a System DSN:

-----
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ODBC\ODBC.INI\MyApp]
"Driver"="C:\\WINNT\\System32\\SQLSRV32.dll"
"Description"="My App Connection"
"Server"="MYSERVER"
"Database"="MyDatabaseName"
"LastUser"=""
"Trusted_Connection"="Yes"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ODBC\ODBC.INI\ODBC Data Sources]
"MyApp"="SQL Server"
-----

When you double click on the file, it prompt you and import the settings
into the registry.  It can be run in silent mode by typing regedit /s
<filename>.reg from a command line/run window.

Are we done?  Not quite!  This is a minor issue for most users, if you want
to use this connection with a 16-bit application, you also need to edit the
ODBC.INI file.  This can be done using the following code:

Private Declare Function WritePrivateProfileString Lib "kernel32" Alias
"WritePrivateProfileStringA" (ByVal lpApplicationName As String, ByVal
lpKeyName As Any, ByVal lpString As Any, ByVal lpFileName As String) As Long

Public Sub AddDSN(ByVal strDSNName As String)

    WritePrivateProfileString "ODBC 32 bit Data Sources" & Chr$(0), _
        strDSNName & Chr$(0), _
        "SQL Server (32 bit)" & Chr$(0), _
        "ODBC.INI" & Chr$(0)

    WritePrivateProfileString strDSNName & Chr$(0), _
        "Driver32" & Chr$(0), _
        "C:\WINNT\System32\sqlsrv32.dll" & Chr$(0), _
        "ODBC.INI" & Chr$(0)

End Sub

HTH,
Brett Barabash, MCP 
Tappe Construction, Co. 
Eagan, MN 
bbarabash at tappeconstruction.com 
(651) 256-6831 

"One thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a
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From: Jeffrey Majchrzak [mailto:jmajchrz at nycap.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 10:03 AM
To: accessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Creating a DSN via code


I have an application that is going to have the backend upsized to SQL
Server 2000.  This application sits on about 50 desktops.  Would anyone have
any code examples that I can view to create a DSN connection?  The DSN will
have the same username and password for all users so I would like the code
to auto fill the username and password when creating the DSN.  

 

Thank you in advance for all your help.

 

Jeffrey Majchrzak

Empire Computer Consulting

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From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Fri Apr  9 10:32:57 2004
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 10:32:57 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] BEU Enhancement
In-Reply-To: <s0754f89.020@cbc.ca>
Message-ID: <FKEBJOENDDBJHLINGOBHEEHBFFAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

I have added tables like mad to some db's and never had a problem.  This
issue was covered in development (unless I don't understand what you are
saying).

There is a function to check what tables to relink or not relink
(beuDBACheckLink).

In my relinking code I have the following line:
If beuDBACheckLink(tdf.name, strFileName) Then

Are you sure you placed this call in the relinker as stated in the manual?
Re-Read PAGES 2 AND 3 of the BEU manual to see what to call and where to
place it.

I suggest we thoroughly explore the beuDBACheckLink module and the call from
the relinker before making any changes to code.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Bryan
> Carbonnell
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 12:12 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] BEU Enchancement
>
>
> I've ran across this problem, or one very similar, in the past couple of
> weeks.
>
> I won't say this is the prefered fix for it, since this is Reuben's
> function, but it's what I did to make it work. Please feel free to pass
> this on to the person using it:
>
> In the beuDBAValidateBEPathnction of the basbeuDBAisdbuptodate module:
>
> Maybe 15 lines down, or so, the line that starts, and continues on for
> 4 lines
> strSQL = "SELECT ....
>
> replace it with, and watch fro wrapping:
>
> strSQL = "SELECT tblDBAModifyDatabase.ParameterValue,
> tblDBAModifyDatabaseMods.HowCounter" _
>     & " FROM tblDBAModifyDatabaseMods INNER JOIN tblDBAModifyDatabase
> ON tblDBAModifyDatabaseMods.ModNumber = tblDBAModifyDatabase.ModNumber"
> _
>     & " WHERE tblDBAModifyDatabaseMods.WhatCounter=2 AND
> tblDBAModifyDatabaseMods.HowCounter=2" _
>     & " AND tblDBAModifyDatabaseMods.State<>-1;"
>
> What this does is allows the link validation to take place on a table
> added by the BEU as long as it's was added correctly and had it's mod
> state cahnged to True.
>
> Now, I am using an Alpha of V2, so (s)he *may* need to tweak it a bit
> for V 1.58, but I don't think it will be necessary.
>
> Bryan Carbonnell
> bryan_carbonnelL at cbc.ca
>
>
> >>> jimdettman at earthlink.net 08-Apr-04 12:49:34 PM >>>
> Reuben, Andy, Lembit, or Bryan
>
>   I recommended the BEU to someone and their using relinking code in
> their
> app.  The problem is, it quits the app if a relink cannot be performed
> on a
> table, which is the case when you add a new table via the BEU.  To
> help
> developers around that problem, I would suggest adding a function call
> that
> checks the BEU task list and returns True if it finds the table name.
> Example:
>
> ' In relink code
>
> If Not IsNewBEUTable(strTableName) then
>    ' Relink the table
> End If
>
>
> ' Function added to BEU.
> Public Function IsNewBEUTable(strTableName as string) as integer
>
>   ' Check BEU task table to see if strTableName is added
>   ' Pass back True if found or False if not.
>
> End Function
>
>   I'm not sure exactly what needs to be done to actually identifiy the
> table
> in the task list because I haven't dug deep enough, but I thought I'd
> pass
> along the suggestion at least.
>
> Jim Dettman
> President,
> Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
> (315) 699-3443
> jimdettman at earthlink.net
>
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From Patricia.O'Connor at DFA.STATE.NY.US  Fri Apr  9 10:54:24 2004
From: Patricia.O'Connor at DFA.STATE.NY.US (O'Connor, Patricia  )
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 11:54:24 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Query problem
Message-ID: <F3AD5F74D038C045A3BDB2773581F4DB01882540@exchsen0a1mc>

you could try sql

select tb1.*
from tablex as tb1
where (tb1.patient_id, tb1.DOt) IN (select tb2.patient_id, min(tb2.dot) from
tablex as tb2  group by tb2.patient_id)

or create 2 access queries
the first named qrygetfirstentry would be 

select patient_id, min(dot) as firstdt from tablex  group by patient_id

which would then be used in the second query name qrysavedemog

select tablex.*
from tablex join qrygetfirstentry on tablex.patient_id =
qrygetfirstentry.patient_id and tablex.dot = qrygetfirstentry.firstdt


HTH
Patti



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bridget Doran [mailto:bridgetd at biostat.umn.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 01:58 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Query problem
> 
> 
> Hi all -
> 
> Working in Access2K.
> 
> I am querying non-normalized data to get records where there are some
> duplicate ID's. Each of these duplicate records will have a date field
> called DOT. I want only the record for the earlier date in 
> the cases where
> there are duplicate ID's. But I also want all the records 
> where there are no
> duplicates. How would I query for this?
> 
> The problem I am addressing is data that has both static and changing
> fields. A patient has basic demographic info as well as 
> multiple transplants
> (2 at most). What the original database did here was just 
> added another
> record with the same Patient ID and a second transplant date 
> with new info
> for many of the fields but not the static/demographic fields. 
> The first
> transplant date has the static fields.
> 
> I have only querying rights to this database and we are 
> building a research
> database that is dependent on it. So, I am attempting to build some
> normalization into our research database with queries.
> 
> Thanks for any help!
> 
> Bridget Doran
> Biostatistics Consulting Lab
> Division of Public Health
> University of Minnesota
> 
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From jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com  Fri Apr  9 11:18:40 2004
From: jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com (jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 11:18:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Data Types and Number of Characters
Message-ID: <OF0A2F1234.539FD5FE-ON86256E71.00597D36-86256E71.005995C5@us.bank-dns.com>


Liz,

Thanks for the information.  Just had a new hard drive put in and the LAN
admin seems to have not put everything back on my pc, like help files...
Cannot wait to find out what other little surprise await.


                                                                                                                                               
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Jeffrey,

This is from Access 97 help:

Byte         Stores numbers from 0 to 255 (no fractions).
 1 byte
Integer            Stores numbers from -32,768 to 32,767 (no fractions).
       2 bytes
Long Integer             (Default) Stores numbers from -2,147,483,648 to
2,147,483,647 (no fractions).        4 bytes
Single             Stores numbers from -3.402823E38 to -1.401298E-45 for
negative
values and from 1.401298E-45 to 3.402823E38 for positive values.         4
bytes
Double             Stores numbers from -1.79769313486231E308 to
-4.94065645841247E-324
for negative values and from 1.79769313486231E308 to 4.94065645841247E-324
for positive values.           8 bytes

Hope this helps,


Liz Doering
Symphony Information Services
liz at symphonyinfo.com
www.symphonyinfo.com




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jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:48 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Data Types and Number of Characters


Starting to become a rough day and need some help here as.

Given the various data types in access what is the maximum number of
characters for each one.  I am not asking about the storage size, but the
actual characters displayed.

I think an example would help:

An Integer has a storage size of 2 bytes but the number of characters
maximum that will be displayed is 6.

The other data types I am wondering about are:

Long
Single
Double
Currency
Decimal


Hopefully this make sense.  Thanks for any help in advance.



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From jmajchrz at nycap.rr.com  Fri Apr  9 12:35:02 2004
From: jmajchrz at nycap.rr.com (Jeffrey Majchrzak)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 13:35:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Creating a DSN via code
Message-ID: <200404091735.i39HZ9Ma021478@ms-smtp-04.nyroc.rr.com>

Thank you. I saw this code on the Access web site.  Using the code from the
site:(I am assuming this section)

 

lngResult = SQLConfigDataSource(0, _

                                           ODBC_ADD_SYS_DSN, _

                                           "SQL Server", _

                                           "DSN=" & JDS_DSN_name & Chr(0) &
_

                                           "Server=" & JDS_Server_name &
Chr(0) & _

                                           "Database=SvCvMarketing" & Chr(0)
& _

                                           "UseProcForPrepare=Yes" & Chr(0)
& _

                                           "Description=MDTS Database" &
Chr(0) & Chr(0))

 

How do I add in the User Name and Password?

 

 

Thanks Again

 

Jeff Majchrzak

 

 

 

 

Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 10:19:58 -0500 

From: "Elam, Debbie" <DElam at jenkens.com>

Subject: RE: [AccessD] Creating a DSN via code

To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"

      <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>

Message-ID:

      <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0106BD5F at natexch.jenkens.com>

Content-Type: text/plain

 

I got this off of Dev Ashish's site:

This example has trusted security through he NT Login.

 

**********************************************************

 

Option Compare Database

Option Explicit

 

'*********************** Code Start ***************************

'Code by Anthony S. Karre via Dev Ashish's Access Web Page

'

Const JDS_DSN_name = "Franchise2"

Const JDS_Server_name = "DalInt2"   ' Raw IP address is used to avoid NT _

 

Domain name resolution probs.

 

Private Declare Function RegEnumKeyEx Lib "advapi32.dll" _

Alias "RegEnumKeyExA" _

  (ByVal hKey As Long, _

   ByVal dwIndex As Long, _

   ByVal lpName As String, _

   lpcbName As Long, _

   ByVal lpReserved As Long, _

   ByVal lpClass As String, _

   lpcbClass As Long, _

   ByVal lpftLastWriteTime As String) As Long

 

Private Declare Function RegOpenKeyEx Lib "advapi32.dll" _

Alias "RegOpenKeyExA" _

    (ByVal hKey As Long, _

    ByVal lpSubKey As String, _

    ByVal ulOptions As Long, _

    ByVal samDesired As Long, phkResult As Long) As Long

 

Private Declare Function SQLConfigDataSource Lib "odbccp32.dll" _

    (ByVal hwndParent As Long, _

    ByVal fRequest As Integer, _

    ByVal lpszDriver As String, _

    ByVal lpszAttributes As String) As Long

 

Private Declare Function RegCloseKey Lib "advapi32.dll" _

    (ByVal hKey As Long) As Long

 

      Const HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE = &H80000002

 

      Const ERROR_SUCCESS = 0&

      Const SYNCHRONIZE = &H100000

      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_READ = &H20000

      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_WRITE = &H20000

      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_EXECUTE = &H20000

      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_REQUIRED = &HF0000

      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_ALL = &H1F0000

      Const KEY_QUERY_VALUE = &H1

      Const KEY_SET_VALUE = &H2

      Const KEY_CREATE_SUB_KEY = &H4

      Const KEY_ENUMERATE_SUB_KEYS = &H8

      Const KEY_NOTIFY = &H10

      Const KEY_CREATE_LINK = &H20

      Const KEY_READ = ((STANDARD_RIGHTS_READ Or _

                        KEY_QUERY_VALUE Or _

                        KEY_ENUMERATE_SUB_KEYS Or _

                        KEY_NOTIFY) And _

                        (Not SYNCHRONIZE))

 

      Const REG_DWORD = 4

      Const REG_BINARY = 3

      Const REG_SZ = 1

      

      Const ODBC_ADD_SYS_DSN = 4

      

 

Function Check_SDSN()

 

         '  Look for our System Data Source Name.  If we find it, then

great!

         '  If not, then let's create one on the fly.

         

         Dim lngKeyHandle As Long

         Dim lngResult As Long

         Dim lngCurIdx As Long

         Dim strValue As String

         Dim classValue As String

         Dim timeValue As String

         Dim lngValueLen As Long

         Dim classlngValueLen As Long

         Dim lngData As Long

         Dim lngDataLen As Long

         Dim strResult As String

         Dim DSNfound As Long

         Dim syscmdresult As Long

 

         syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdSetStatus, "Looking for System DSN "

& JDS_DSN_name & " ...")

         

         '  Let's open the registry key that contains all of the

         '  System Data Source Names.

         

         lngResult = RegOpenKeyEx(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, _

                 "SOFTWARE\ODBC\ODBC.INI", _

                  0&, _

                  KEY_READ, _

                  lngKeyHandle)

 

         If lngResult <> ERROR_SUCCESS Then

             MsgBox "ERROR:  Cannot open the registry key

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ODBC\ODBC.INI." & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _

                    "Please make sure that ODBC and the SQL Server ODBC

drivers have been installed." & vbCrLf & _

                    "Contact call your MDTS System Administrator for more

information."

             syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdClearStatus)

             Check_SDSN = -1

         End If

         

         ' Now that the key is open, Let's look among all of

         ' the possible system data source names for the one

         ' we want.

 

         lngCurIdx = 0

         DSNfound = False

         

         Do

            lngValueLen = 512

            classlngValueLen = 512

            strValue = String(lngValueLen, 0)

            classValue = String(classlngValueLen, 0)

            timeValue = String(lngValueLen, 0)

            lngDataLen = 512

 

            lngResult = RegEnumKeyEx(lngKeyHandle, _

                                     lngCurIdx, _

                                     strValue, _

                                     lngValueLen, _

                                     0&, _

                                     classValue, _

                                     classlngValueLen, _

                                     timeValue)

            lngCurIdx = lngCurIdx + 1

 

         If lngResult = ERROR_SUCCESS Then

         

           ' Is this our System Data Source Name?

         

           If strValue = JDS_DSN_name Then

           

             '  It is!  Let's assume everything is good and do nothing.

             

             DSNfound = True

             syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdClearStatus)

         

           End If

           

         End If

 

         Loop While lngResult = ERROR_SUCCESS And Not DSNfound

         

         Call RegCloseKey(lngKeyHandle)

 

         If Not DSNfound Then

         

           '  Our System Data Source Name doesn't exist, so let's

           '  try to create it on the fly.

         

           syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdSetStatus, "Creating System DSN " &

JDS_DSN_name & "...")

         

           lngResult = SQLConfigDataSource(0, _

                                           ODBC_ADD_SYS_DSN, _

                                           "SQL Server", _

                                           "DSN=" & JDS_DSN_name & Chr(0) &

_

                                           "Server=" & JDS_Server_name &

Chr(0) & _

                                           "Database=FranchiseReg" & Chr(0)

& _

                                           "UseProcForPrepare=Yes" & Chr(0)

& _

                                           "Network=dbmssocn" & Chr(0) & _

                                           "Description=Franchise" & Chr(0)

& Chr(0))

                       

           If lngResult = False Then

           

             MsgBox "ERROR:  Could not create the System DSN " &

JDS_DSN_name & "." & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _

                    "Please make sure that the SQL Server ODBC drivers have

been installed." & vbCrLf & _

                    "Contact your System Administrator for more

information."

                    

             syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdClearStatus)

             Check_SDSN = -1

 

           End If

           

         End If

         

         syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdClearStatus)

         Check_SDSN = 0

 

End Function

'*********************** Code End ***************************

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Jeffrey Majchrzak [mailto:jmajchrz at nycap.rr.com] 

Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 10:03 AM

To: accessD at databaseadvisors.com

Subject: [AccessD] Creating a DSN via code

 

 

I have an application that is going to have the backend upsized to SQL

Server 2000.  This application sits on about 50 desktops.  Would anyone have

any code examples that I can view to create a DSN connection?  The DSN will

have the same username and password for all users so I would like the code

to auto fill the username and password when creating the DSN.  

 

 

 

Thank you in advance for all your help.

 

 

 

Jeffrey Majchrzak

 

Empire Computer Consulting



From jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com  Fri Apr  9 12:55:51 2004
From: jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com (jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 12:55:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Creating a DSN via code
Message-ID: <OFB7A5DEFD.EE35A7E6-ON86256E71.00626A18-86256E71.00627EF7@us.bank-dns.com>


"USER=<<YourNameHere>>, PWD=<<YourPasswordHere>>"


                                                                                                                                               
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Thank you. I saw this code on the Access web site.  Using the code from the
site:(I am assuming this section)



lngResult = SQLConfigDataSource(0, _

                                           ODBC_ADD_SYS_DSN, _

                                           "SQL Server", _

                                           "DSN=" & JDS_DSN_name & Chr(0) &
_

                                           "Server=" & JDS_Server_name &
Chr(0) & _

                                           "Database=SvCvMarketing" &
Chr(0)
& _

                                           "UseProcForPrepare=Yes" & Chr(0)
& _

                                           "Description=MDTS Database" &
Chr(0) & Chr(0))



How do I add in the User Name and Password?





Thanks Again



Jeff Majchrzak









Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 10:19:58 -0500

From: "Elam, Debbie" <DElam at jenkens.com>

Subject: RE: [AccessD] Creating a DSN via code

To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"

      <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>

Message-ID:

      <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0106BD5F at natexch.jenkens.com>

Content-Type: text/plain



I got this off of Dev Ashish's site:

This example has trusted security through he NT Login.



**********************************************************



Option Compare Database

Option Explicit



'*********************** Code Start ***************************

'Code by Anthony S. Karre via Dev Ashish's Access Web Page

'

Const JDS_DSN_name = "Franchise2"

Const JDS_Server_name = "DalInt2"   ' Raw IP address is used to avoid NT _



Domain name resolution probs.



Private Declare Function RegEnumKeyEx Lib "advapi32.dll" _

Alias "RegEnumKeyExA" _

  (ByVal hKey As Long, _

   ByVal dwIndex As Long, _

   ByVal lpName As String, _

   lpcbName As Long, _

   ByVal lpReserved As Long, _

   ByVal lpClass As String, _

   lpcbClass As Long, _

   ByVal lpftLastWriteTime As String) As Long



Private Declare Function RegOpenKeyEx Lib "advapi32.dll" _

Alias "RegOpenKeyExA" _

    (ByVal hKey As Long, _

    ByVal lpSubKey As String, _

    ByVal ulOptions As Long, _

    ByVal samDesired As Long, phkResult As Long) As Long



Private Declare Function SQLConfigDataSource Lib "odbccp32.dll" _

    (ByVal hwndParent As Long, _

    ByVal fRequest As Integer, _

    ByVal lpszDriver As String, _

    ByVal lpszAttributes As String) As Long



Private Declare Function RegCloseKey Lib "advapi32.dll" _

    (ByVal hKey As Long) As Long



      Const HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE = &H80000002



      Const ERROR_SUCCESS = 0&

      Const SYNCHRONIZE = &H100000

      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_READ = &H20000

      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_WRITE = &H20000

      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_EXECUTE = &H20000

      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_REQUIRED = &HF0000

      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_ALL = &H1F0000

      Const KEY_QUERY_VALUE = &H1

      Const KEY_SET_VALUE = &H2

      Const KEY_CREATE_SUB_KEY = &H4

      Const KEY_ENUMERATE_SUB_KEYS = &H8

      Const KEY_NOTIFY = &H10

      Const KEY_CREATE_LINK = &H20

      Const KEY_READ = ((STANDARD_RIGHTS_READ Or _

                        KEY_QUERY_VALUE Or _

                        KEY_ENUMERATE_SUB_KEYS Or _

                        KEY_NOTIFY) And _

                        (Not SYNCHRONIZE))



      Const REG_DWORD = 4

      Const REG_BINARY = 3

      Const REG_SZ = 1



      Const ODBC_ADD_SYS_DSN = 4





Function Check_SDSN()



         '  Look for our System Data Source Name.  If we find it, then

great!

         '  If not, then let's create one on the fly.



         Dim lngKeyHandle As Long

         Dim lngResult As Long

         Dim lngCurIdx As Long

         Dim strValue As String

         Dim classValue As String

         Dim timeValue As String

         Dim lngValueLen As Long

         Dim classlngValueLen As Long

         Dim lngData As Long

         Dim lngDataLen As Long

         Dim strResult As String

         Dim DSNfound As Long

         Dim syscmdresult As Long



         syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdSetStatus, "Looking for System DSN "

& JDS_DSN_name & " ...")



         '  Let's open the registry key that contains all of the

         '  System Data Source Names.



         lngResult = RegOpenKeyEx(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, _

                 "SOFTWARE\ODBC\ODBC.INI", _

                  0&, _

                  KEY_READ, _

                  lngKeyHandle)



         If lngResult <> ERROR_SUCCESS Then

             MsgBox "ERROR:  Cannot open the registry key

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ODBC\ODBC.INI." & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _

                    "Please make sure that ODBC and the SQL Server ODBC

drivers have been installed." & vbCrLf & _

                    "Contact call your MDTS System Administrator for more

information."

             syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdClearStatus)

             Check_SDSN = -1

         End If



         ' Now that the key is open, Let's look among all of

         ' the possible system data source names for the one

         ' we want.



         lngCurIdx = 0

         DSNfound = False



         Do

            lngValueLen = 512

            classlngValueLen = 512

            strValue = String(lngValueLen, 0)

            classValue = String(classlngValueLen, 0)

            timeValue = String(lngValueLen, 0)

            lngDataLen = 512



            lngResult = RegEnumKeyEx(lngKeyHandle, _

                                     lngCurIdx, _

                                     strValue, _

                                     lngValueLen, _

                                     0&, _

                                     classValue, _

                                     classlngValueLen, _

                                     timeValue)

            lngCurIdx = lngCurIdx + 1



         If lngResult = ERROR_SUCCESS Then



           ' Is this our System Data Source Name?



           If strValue = JDS_DSN_name Then



             '  It is!  Let's assume everything is good and do nothing.



             DSNfound = True

             syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdClearStatus)



           End If



         End If



         Loop While lngResult = ERROR_SUCCESS And Not DSNfound



         Call RegCloseKey(lngKeyHandle)



         If Not DSNfound Then



           '  Our System Data Source Name doesn't exist, so let's

           '  try to create it on the fly.



           syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdSetStatus, "Creating System DSN "
&

JDS_DSN_name & "...")



           lngResult = SQLConfigDataSource(0, _

                                           ODBC_ADD_SYS_DSN, _

                                           "SQL Server", _

                                           "DSN=" & JDS_DSN_name & Chr(0) &

_

                                           "Server=" & JDS_Server_name &

Chr(0) & _

                                           "Database=FranchiseReg" & Chr(0)

& _

                                           "UseProcForPrepare=Yes" & Chr(0)

& _

                                           "Network=dbmssocn" & Chr(0) & _

                                           "Description=Franchise" & Chr(0)

& Chr(0))



           If lngResult = False Then



             MsgBox "ERROR:  Could not create the System DSN " &

JDS_DSN_name & "." & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _

                    "Please make sure that the SQL Server ODBC drivers have

been installed." & vbCrLf & _

                    "Contact your System Administrator for more

information."



             syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdClearStatus)

             Check_SDSN = -1



           End If



         End If



         syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdClearStatus)

         Check_SDSN = 0



End Function

'*********************** Code End ***************************







-----Original Message-----

From: Jeffrey Majchrzak [mailto:jmajchrz at nycap.rr.com]

Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 10:03 AM

To: accessD at databaseadvisors.com

Subject: [AccessD] Creating a DSN via code





I have an application that is going to have the backend upsized to SQL

Server 2000.  This application sits on about 50 desktops.  Would anyone
have

any code examples that I can view to create a DSN connection?  The DSN will

have the same username and password for all users so I would like the code

to auto fill the username and password when creating the DSN.







Thank you in advance for all your help.







Jeffrey Majchrzak



Empire Computer Consulting

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From DElam at jenkens.com  Fri Apr  9 13:01:56 2004
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 13:01:56 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Creating a DSN via code
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0106BD69@natexch.jenkens.com>

I am not sure, however I suspect it should look something like this:

lngResult = SQLConfigDataSource(0, _
ODBC_ADD_SYS_DSN, _
"SQL Server", _
"DSN=" & JDS_DSN_name & Chr(0) & _
"Server=" & JDS_Server_name & Chr(0) & _
"Database=SvCvMarketing" & Chr(0) & _
"UseProcForPrepare=Yes" & Chr(0) & _
"Username=YourUserName" & Chr(0) & _
"Password=yourpassword" & Chr(0) & _
"Description=MDTS Database" & Chr(0) & Chr(0))

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey Majchrzak [mailto:jmajchrz at nycap.rr.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 12:35 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Creating a DSN via code


Thank you. I saw this code on the Access web site.  Using the code from the
site:(I am assuming this section)

 

lngResult = SQLConfigDataSource(0, _

                                           ODBC_ADD_SYS_DSN, _

                                           "SQL Server", _

                                           "DSN=" & JDS_DSN_name & Chr(0) &
_

                                           "Server=" & JDS_Server_name &
Chr(0) & _

                                           "Database=SvCvMarketing" & Chr(0)
& _

                                           "UseProcForPrepare=Yes" & Chr(0)
& _

                                           "Description=MDTS Database" &
Chr(0) & Chr(0))

 

How do I add in the User Name and Password?

 

 

Thanks Again

 

Jeff Majchrzak

 

 

 

 

Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 10:19:58 -0500 

From: "Elam, Debbie" <DElam at jenkens.com>

Subject: RE: [AccessD] Creating a DSN via code

To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"

      <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>

Message-ID:

      <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0106BD5F at natexch.jenkens.com>

Content-Type: text/plain

 

I got this off of Dev Ashish's site:

This example has trusted security through he NT Login.

 

**********************************************************

 

Option Compare Database

Option Explicit

 

'*********************** Code Start ***************************

'Code by Anthony S. Karre via Dev Ashish's Access Web Page

'

Const JDS_DSN_name = "Franchise2"

Const JDS_Server_name = "DalInt2"   ' Raw IP address is used to avoid NT _

 

Domain name resolution probs.

 

Private Declare Function RegEnumKeyEx Lib "advapi32.dll" _

Alias "RegEnumKeyExA" _

  (ByVal hKey As Long, _

   ByVal dwIndex As Long, _

   ByVal lpName As String, _

   lpcbName As Long, _

   ByVal lpReserved As Long, _

   ByVal lpClass As String, _

   lpcbClass As Long, _

   ByVal lpftLastWriteTime As String) As Long

 

Private Declare Function RegOpenKeyEx Lib "advapi32.dll" _

Alias "RegOpenKeyExA" _

    (ByVal hKey As Long, _

    ByVal lpSubKey As String, _

    ByVal ulOptions As Long, _

    ByVal samDesired As Long, phkResult As Long) As Long

 

Private Declare Function SQLConfigDataSource Lib "odbccp32.dll" _

    (ByVal hwndParent As Long, _

    ByVal fRequest As Integer, _

    ByVal lpszDriver As String, _

    ByVal lpszAttributes As String) As Long

 

Private Declare Function RegCloseKey Lib "advapi32.dll" _

    (ByVal hKey As Long) As Long

 

      Const HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE = &H80000002

 

      Const ERROR_SUCCESS = 0&

      Const SYNCHRONIZE = &H100000

      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_READ = &H20000

      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_WRITE = &H20000

      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_EXECUTE = &H20000

      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_REQUIRED = &HF0000

      Const STANDARD_RIGHTS_ALL = &H1F0000

      Const KEY_QUERY_VALUE = &H1

      Const KEY_SET_VALUE = &H2

      Const KEY_CREATE_SUB_KEY = &H4

      Const KEY_ENUMERATE_SUB_KEYS = &H8

      Const KEY_NOTIFY = &H10

      Const KEY_CREATE_LINK = &H20

      Const KEY_READ = ((STANDARD_RIGHTS_READ Or _

                        KEY_QUERY_VALUE Or _

                        KEY_ENUMERATE_SUB_KEYS Or _

                        KEY_NOTIFY) And _

                        (Not SYNCHRONIZE))

 

      Const REG_DWORD = 4

      Const REG_BINARY = 3

      Const REG_SZ = 1

      

      Const ODBC_ADD_SYS_DSN = 4

      

 

Function Check_SDSN()

 

         '  Look for our System Data Source Name.  If we find it, then

great!

         '  If not, then let's create one on the fly.

         

         Dim lngKeyHandle As Long

         Dim lngResult As Long

         Dim lngCurIdx As Long

         Dim strValue As String

         Dim classValue As String

         Dim timeValue As String

         Dim lngValueLen As Long

         Dim classlngValueLen As Long

         Dim lngData As Long

         Dim lngDataLen As Long

         Dim strResult As String

         Dim DSNfound As Long

         Dim syscmdresult As Long

 

         syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdSetStatus, "Looking for System DSN "

& JDS_DSN_name & " ...")

         

         '  Let's open the registry key that contains all of the

         '  System Data Source Names.

         

         lngResult = RegOpenKeyEx(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, _

                 "SOFTWARE\ODBC\ODBC.INI", _

                  0&, _

                  KEY_READ, _

                  lngKeyHandle)

 

         If lngResult <> ERROR_SUCCESS Then

             MsgBox "ERROR:  Cannot open the registry key

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ODBC\ODBC.INI." & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _

                    "Please make sure that ODBC and the SQL Server ODBC

drivers have been installed." & vbCrLf & _

                    "Contact call your MDTS System Administrator for more

information."

             syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdClearStatus)

             Check_SDSN = -1

         End If

         

         ' Now that the key is open, Let's look among all of

         ' the possible system data source names for the one

         ' we want.

 

         lngCurIdx = 0

         DSNfound = False

         

         Do

            lngValueLen = 512

            classlngValueLen = 512

            strValue = String(lngValueLen, 0)

            classValue = String(classlngValueLen, 0)

            timeValue = String(lngValueLen, 0)

            lngDataLen = 512

 

            lngResult = RegEnumKeyEx(lngKeyHandle, _

                                     lngCurIdx, _

                                     strValue, _

                                     lngValueLen, _

                                     0&, _

                                     classValue, _

                                     classlngValueLen, _

                                     timeValue)

            lngCurIdx = lngCurIdx + 1

 

         If lngResult = ERROR_SUCCESS Then

         

           ' Is this our System Data Source Name?

         

           If strValue = JDS_DSN_name Then

           

             '  It is!  Let's assume everything is good and do nothing.

             

             DSNfound = True

             syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdClearStatus)

         

           End If

           

         End If

 

         Loop While lngResult = ERROR_SUCCESS And Not DSNfound

         

         Call RegCloseKey(lngKeyHandle)

 

         If Not DSNfound Then

         

           '  Our System Data Source Name doesn't exist, so let's

           '  try to create it on the fly.

         

           syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdSetStatus, "Creating System DSN " &

JDS_DSN_name & "...")

         

           lngResult = SQLConfigDataSource(0, _

                                           ODBC_ADD_SYS_DSN, _

                                           "SQL Server", _

                                           "DSN=" & JDS_DSN_name & Chr(0) &

_

                                           "Server=" & JDS_Server_name &

Chr(0) & _

                                           "Database=FranchiseReg" & Chr(0)

& _

                                           "UseProcForPrepare=Yes" & Chr(0)

& _

                                           "Network=dbmssocn" & Chr(0) & _

                                           "Description=Franchise" & Chr(0)

& Chr(0))

                       

           If lngResult = False Then

           

             MsgBox "ERROR:  Could not create the System DSN " &

JDS_DSN_name & "." & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _

                    "Please make sure that the SQL Server ODBC drivers have

been installed." & vbCrLf & _

                    "Contact your System Administrator for more

information."

                    

             syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdClearStatus)

             Check_SDSN = -1

 

           End If

           

         End If

         

         syscmdresult = SysCmd(acSysCmdClearStatus)

         Check_SDSN = 0

 

End Function

'*********************** Code End ***************************

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Jeffrey Majchrzak [mailto:jmajchrz at nycap.rr.com] 

Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 10:03 AM

To: accessD at databaseadvisors.com

Subject: [AccessD] Creating a DSN via code

 

 

I have an application that is going to have the backend upsized to SQL

Server 2000.  This application sits on about 50 desktops.  Would anyone have

any code examples that I can view to create a DSN connection?  The DSN will

have the same username and password for all users so I would like the code

to auto fill the username and password when creating the DSN.  

 

 

 

Thank you in advance for all your help.

 

 

 

Jeffrey Majchrzak

 

Empire Computer Consulting

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From garykjos at hotmail.com  Fri Apr  9 13:15:34 2004
From: garykjos at hotmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 13:15:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] cumulative record count question
Message-ID: <BAY2-F90NklPSADZfa80003d321@hotmail.com>

>>>>>The problem is when the 10th thru the 15th record are the same values 
>>>>>all of
>them show up! <<<<<

Hopefully you have some sort of Unique Key or something you could include to 
sort by so you don't get the "ties" included.  You don't have to include it 
in the output results, just in the order by part.

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From j.frederick at att.net  Fri Apr  9 13:22:05 2004
From: j.frederick at att.net (John Frederick)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 14:22:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Creating a DSN via code
In-Reply-To: <200404091503.i39F36df010970@ms-smtp-01.nyroc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <KIEBKJDMKEHOPCJLKNAFCECOCIAA.j.frederick@att.net>

I suggest that you:

1.  Use the DSN wizard that you get in Control Pane\ODBC to make a file DSN
for your SQL Server link.  Save it where you can find it.  This gets you a
working Connection string the easy way.
2.  Open the file DSN with notepad and make the contents the body of a
DSN-less Connection string in your code.  It sounds like it can be
completely canned and the same for all your workstations.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jeffrey
Majchrzak
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 11:03 AM
To: accessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Creating a DSN via code


I have an application that is going to have the backend upsized to SQL
Server 2000.  This application sits on about 50 desktops.  Would anyone have
any code examples that I can view to create a DSN connection?  The DSN will
have the same username and password for all users so I would like the code
to auto fill the username and password when creating the DSN.



Thank you in advance for all your help.



Jeffrey Majchrzak

Empire Computer Consulting

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From mastercafe at ctv.es  Fri Apr  9 19:02:04 2004
From: mastercafe at ctv.es (MastercafeCTV)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 02:02:04 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] My details
In-Reply-To: <200404091308.i39D8VB10981@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <007901c41e8f$0f2dc170$0300a8c0@masterserver>

TAKE CARE WITH ALL MAIL SIMILAR OF THIS.
The attachment archive is a potential worm.

Juan Menendez Crespo

================================
Mastercafe S.L. NIF - B82.617.614
c/ Pi?eres 4, 1?D (33430 Candas - Asturias)
Juan Menendez Crespo juan at mastercafe.com
www.mastercafe.com
info at mastercafe.com
================================


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
budge at magicaldesk.com
Sent: viernes, 09 de abril de 2004 15:09
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] My details


Hello!
Please notice the attached detailed document.
Thank you

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From mastercafe at ctv.es  Fri Apr  9 19:39:00 2004
From: mastercafe at ctv.es (MastercafeCTV)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 02:39:00 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Password VBA Problem
In-Reply-To: <20040409135009.DXGI1810.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <000001c41e94$378fa390$0300a8c0@masterserver>

Hi group, last week we make a big stupidity. Trying to protect our
application we introduce password protection on the main MDB but I don't
know how actually the main MDB have not the password but the VBA Code yes.
We try to unlock the password but was impossible, the application said that
There isn't password protect, but if you try to edit some code they take
PASSWORD PROTECT.
The big problem is that the password that we put we can't try to rewrite, I
suppose that the number and letters have a little difference. We download
all utilities to recover the password, but all said the same NOT PASSWORD
PROTECT.

What can we do??
Are there any tool to unlock this??

We try with ACPR, AccessKey, and another 5 similar utilities. We check the
MDB for a possible corrupted file, but the program run perfectly... only
can't access to the main source code.

Thanks in advance

Juan Menendez Crespo


================================
Mastercafe S.L. NIF - B82.617.614
c/ Pi?eres 4, 1?D (33430 Candas - Asturias)
Juan Menendez Crespo juan at mastercafe.com
www.mastercafe.com
info at mastercafe.com
================================




From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Sat Apr 10 07:26:02 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 08:26:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Password VBA Problem
In-Reply-To: <000001c41e94$378fa390$0300a8c0@masterserver>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKKEGFIPAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Juan,

  All the utilities have failed because the password you applied is for the
VBA project file.  That is not the same as the database password and it is
not user level Access (workgroup) security.

  I have never seen any code floating around to do handle that nor have I
seen any utilities.  I'm sure it's one of those things that Microsoft
actively tries to keep to a minimum as it would not apply only to Access,
but every other product that uses VBA as well.

  Unless someone on list knows how to tackle it, I would suggest a Google
search, but I think you'll find that your out of luck.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MastercafeCTV
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 8:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Password VBA Problem


Hi group, last week we make a big stupidity. Trying to protect our
application we introduce password protection on the main MDB but I don't
know how actually the main MDB have not the password but the VBA Code yes.
We try to unlock the password but was impossible, the application said that
There isn't password protect, but if you try to edit some code they take
PASSWORD PROTECT.
The big problem is that the password that we put we can't try to rewrite, I
suppose that the number and letters have a little difference. We download
all utilities to recover the password, but all said the same NOT PASSWORD
PROTECT.

What can we do??
Are there any tool to unlock this??

We try with ACPR, AccessKey, and another 5 similar utilities. We check the
MDB for a possible corrupted file, but the program run perfectly... only
can't access to the main source code.

Thanks in advance

Juan Menendez Crespo


================================
Mastercafe S.L. NIF - B82.617.614
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From mastercafe at ctv.es  Sat Apr 10 09:57:42 2004
From: mastercafe at ctv.es (MastercafeCTV)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 16:57:42 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Password VBA Problem SOLVED
In-Reply-To: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKKEGFIPAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <000001c41f0c$2d398730$0300a8c0@masterserver>

Finally only 40h working to detect the problem and the solution was easy:

We have a first problem with the main MDB file with some Query's with a
corrupted part that Compact & Repair don't repair. We eliminate this....

Second part use the VBAKey 6.3 from www.lostpassword.com (registred version
to see all password) and ready, we obtain the main password for VBA project.

Import all tables, queries, forms, macros, and vba modules in a new MDB
file.


Solved the password problem


Hope this solution can help another programmers like with pwd problems.

Juan Menendez Crespo
MASTERCAFE


================================
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c/ Pi?eres 4, 1?D (33430 Candas - Asturias)
Juan Menendez Crespo juan at mastercafe.com
www.mastercafe.com
info at mastercafe.com
================================


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: s?bado, 10 de abril de 2004 14:26
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Password VBA Problem

Juan,

  All the utilities have failed because the password you applied is for the
VBA project file.  That is not the same as the database password and it is
not user level Access (workgroup) security.

  I have never seen any code floating around to do handle that nor have I
seen any utilities.  I'm sure it's one of those things that Microsoft
actively tries to keep to a minimum as it would not apply only to Access,
but every other product that uses VBA as well.

  Unless someone on list knows how to tackle it, I would suggest a Google
search, but I think you'll find that your out of luck.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MastercafeCTV
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 8:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Password VBA Problem


Hi group, last week we make a big stupidity. Trying to protect our
application we introduce password protection on the main MDB but I don't
know how actually the main MDB have not the password but the VBA Code yes.
We try to unlock the password but was impossible, the application said that
There isn't password protect, but if you try to edit some code they take
PASSWORD PROTECT.
The big problem is that the password that we put we can't try to rewrite, I
suppose that the number and letters have a little difference. We download
all utilities to recover the password, but all said the same NOT PASSWORD
PROTECT.

What can we do??
Are there any tool to unlock this??

We try with ACPR, AccessKey, and another 5 similar utilities. We check the
MDB for a possible corrupted file, but the program run perfectly... only
can't access to the main source code.

Thanks in advance

Juan Menendez Crespo


================================
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c/ Pi?eres 4, 1?D (33430 Candas - Asturias)
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www.mastercafe.com
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================================


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From spikee at oatlandspark.org.uk  Sat Apr 10 10:08:33 2004
From: spikee at oatlandspark.org.uk (Chris Foote (Spike))
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 16:08:33 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Password VBA Problem SOLVED
Message-ID: <NBBBJDKBBONNJNBIILLHOEFJDEAA.spikee@oatlandspark.org.uk>

Glad you got it sorted-out Juan!

Thanks for posting your solution.

Best regards!

Chris Foote - UK

spike at ugandanetwork.org.uk

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MastercafeCTV
Sent: 10 April 2004 15:58
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Password VBA Problem SOLVED


Finally only 40h working to detect the problem and the solution was easy:

---------(Snip)---------




From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Sat Apr 10 14:43:36 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 20:43:36 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] BEU Enhancement
In-Reply-To: <FKEBJOENDDBJHLINGOBHEEHBFFAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>
Message-ID: <01b901c41f34$1dd9f400$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Concur with Reuben. Exactly what I do.
-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Reuben Cummings
> Sent: 09 April 2004 16:33
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] BEU Enhancement
> 
> 
> I have added tables like mad to some db's and never had a 
> problem.  This issue was covered in development (unless I 
> don't understand what you are saying).
> 
> There is a function to check what tables to relink or not 
> relink (beuDBACheckLink).
> 
> In my relinking code I have the following line:
> If beuDBACheckLink(tdf.name, strFileName) Then
> 
> Are you sure you placed this call in the relinker as stated 
> in the manual? Re-Read PAGES 2 AND 3 of the BEU manual to see 
> what to call and where to place it.
> 
> I suggest we thoroughly explore the beuDBACheckLink module 
> and the call from the relinker before making any changes to code.
> 
> Reuben Cummings
> GFC, LLC
> phone: 812.523.1017
> email: reuben at gfconsultants.com
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Bryan 
> > Carbonnell
> > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 12:12 PM
> > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] BEU Enchancement
> >
> >
> > I've ran across this problem, or one very similar, in the 
> past couple 
> > of weeks.
> >
> > I won't say this is the prefered fix for it, since this is Reuben's 
> > function, but it's what I did to make it work. Please feel free to 
> > pass this on to the person using it:
> >
> > In the beuDBAValidateBEPathnction of the 
> basbeuDBAisdbuptodate module:
> >
> > Maybe 15 lines down, or so, the line that starts, and 
> continues on for 
> > 4 lines strSQL = "SELECT ....
> >
> > replace it with, and watch fro wrapping:
> >
> > strSQL = "SELECT tblDBAModifyDatabase.ParameterValue,
> > tblDBAModifyDatabaseMods.HowCounter" _
> >     & " FROM tblDBAModifyDatabaseMods INNER JOIN 
> tblDBAModifyDatabase 
> > ON tblDBAModifyDatabaseMods.ModNumber = 
> > tblDBAModifyDatabase.ModNumber" _
> >     & " WHERE tblDBAModifyDatabaseMods.WhatCounter=2 AND 
> > tblDBAModifyDatabaseMods.HowCounter=2" _
> >     & " AND tblDBAModifyDatabaseMods.State<>-1;"
> >
> > What this does is allows the link validation to take place 
> on a table 
> > added by the BEU as long as it's was added correctly and 
> had it's mod 
> > state cahnged to True.
> >
> > Now, I am using an Alpha of V2, so (s)he *may* need to 
> tweak it a bit 
> > for V 1.58, but I don't think it will be necessary.
> >
> > Bryan Carbonnell
> > bryan_carbonnelL at cbc.ca
> >
> >
> > >>> jimdettman at earthlink.net 08-Apr-04 12:49:34 PM >>>
> > Reuben, Andy, Lembit, or Bryan
> >
> >   I recommended the BEU to someone and their using 
> relinking code in 
> > their app.  The problem is, it quits the app if a relink cannot be 
> > performed on a
> > table, which is the case when you add a new table via the BEU.  To
> > help
> > developers around that problem, I would suggest adding a 
> function call
> > that
> > checks the BEU task list and returns True if it finds the 
> table name.
> > Example:
> >
> > ' In relink code
> >
> > If Not IsNewBEUTable(strTableName) then
> >    ' Relink the table
> > End If
> >
> >
> > ' Function added to BEU.
> > Public Function IsNewBEUTable(strTableName as string) as integer
> >
> >   ' Check BEU task table to see if strTableName is added
> >   ' Pass back True if found or False if not.
> >
> > End Function
> >
> >   I'm not sure exactly what needs to be done to actually 
> identifiy the 
> > table in the task list because I haven't dug deep enough, but I 
> > thought I'd pass
> > along the suggestion at least.
> >
> > Jim Dettman
> > President,
> > Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
> > (315) 699-3443
> > jimdettman at earthlink.net
> >
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From artful at rogers.com  Sat Apr 10 19:52:31 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 17:52:31 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG
In-Reply-To: <4425303804.20040402155722@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <015101c41f5f$455e2b10$6501a8c0@rock>

The bug is that Format() creates a string not a date field. To get
accurate date order, include the date field as well but don't show it,
just order by it.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 5:57 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ORDER BY BUG using Date format AARHG


Hi Sander

Well - but what is the bug and how did you solve it?

/gustav


> Hi gustav,
 
> I've solved the problem. Twas a nasty one.
> but euh try it if you want. create a table with a date field like 
> below and run the query...no go!
 
> Thanx anyway.
 
> Sander


> Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi Sander

> Your "stupid" test is correct as it sorts DESC on a string.

> Try this which I think is what Bert-Jan has in mind:

> SELECT DISTINCT
> Format([TblArbo].[Datum], "dd-mmm-yyyy")
> FROM
> TblArbo
> ORDER BY
> [TblArbo].[Datum] DESC;

> /gustav


>> I've got a combobox based on a query:
>> SELECT DISTINCT [TblArbo].[Datum]
>> FROM TblArbo
>> ORDER BY [TblArbo].[Datum] DESC;
>> Resulted in:
>> 01-10-2003
>> 02-09-2003
>> 21-08-2001

>> The user asked if this could be printed in the following format: 
>> dd-mmm-yyyy No problem, says stupid me: SELECT DISTINCT 
>> Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy")
>> FROM TblArbo
>> ORDER BY Format([TblArbo].[Datum],"dd-mmm-yyyy") DESC;

>> But now the ORDER BY ONLY checks the DD part?!?!?!?!
>> So this results in:
>> 21-08-2001

>> 02-09-2003
>> 01-10-2003
>> ?!!??! What kind of nonsense is this?

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From artful at rogers.com  Sat Apr 10 20:19:11 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 18:19:11 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <000b01c41bed$e465ea60$9111758f@aine>
Message-ID: <015801c41f62$fedb2f90$6501a8c0@rock>

IMO there would be a significant shift in the Linux world if somebody
released something even close to Access. Yeah, there's Jbuilder and
Kylix and such, and a few dbAdmin apps for MySQL, but there is no free
or inexpensive RAD db dev app for Linux... And until there is, few if
any of us will move our businesses there.

If I were good enough to clone Access, I'd do it. Sadly, I'm not. It
would take several programmers a year or more. Let's face it, Access is
a brilliant piece of work, despite its bugs and its price. Tough to
clone and deliver the equivalent functionality, especially given VBA, a
project unto itself. 

Borland has done well, but their solution is pricy. Yeah, you can grab a
small version free but it's missing all the components you would need
for real-world dev, so how does that help? IMO they would do much better
with a free 120-day licensing scheme, so you could actually try to build
something serious, and if it looks like it's gonna work, then you can
click the button and pay the money.

A further complication in attempting to clone Access for Linux is the
multiple targets. You could do as MS did and begin with one target, and
publish an API to invite other players into the mix -- the Linux
equivalent of ODBC, hopefully done smarter and better. Probably start
with MySQL, then as you gained groundswell, expand the targets to
include maybe PostGres and Cache, leaving Oracle etc. to their vendors
to write using the API. Big work.

Some of the stuff has been written already and is open-source so it can
be grabbed with a thang-ya-very-much, but the job remains huge... IMO
way way beyond the scope of one brilliant developer. Needs a team of
brilliant developers plus an architect. AFACS, the Linux community is
not interested, or to put it more graciously, realizes the size of the
problem and is not interested.

If there was an Access clone in the Linux world, I would IMMEDIATELY
recommend to all my clients that they abandon Windows. But there isn't,
and so despite my emotional/political slant, I am forced to recommend
Windows solutions -- it works, and it's RAD, and that means it's
relatively cheap.

I would so much prefer to recommend some product called MyAccess, which
works with MySQL and maybe other Linux databases, but until that
emerges, I have to say that Access is the cheap way to go. I can ship
runtimes if you don't want to pay the licensing for Access on every box.
This assumes a WindX environment, but if the bottom line and the ROI
matter, then Win + Access win. I don't like it much, but that's how I
see it. Wish it were otherwise.

Arthur



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 8:43 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: open source


WHy should we move?

Money, costs us a fortune for MS licences


Martin


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 4:24 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: open source


> But why should they?
>
> Susan H.
>
> >From our point of view it would be difficult in terms of
> money and infrastructure to change over. The amount of work would be
massive
> requiring a substantial investment in both hardware, software and
training.
>
> Its not impossible just take the will to make the move.
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Apr 11 21:14:14 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 22:14:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Framework Discussion page rebuild
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPOEIJHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

I have gone through all of the discussions and built a specific mdb and
matching document zipped as a pair in a zip file.  The framework discussion
page on my site now has 12 "chapters" built in this manner.  This should
make following the document easier.  Anyone going through the new document /
database who finds any issues please email me offline to let me know and I
will attempt to get such issues fixed and reposted.  I did have to go carve
out some of the chapters from the databases where I had just updated the db
for several chapters so there may be a few issues.  Again, I will attempt to
fix any issues brought to my attention and repost.

In the future, all documents will be built with a matching database as the
document is written and so should match "exactly".

More are on the way.  I use a class for Openargs that parse the args and
apply known framework args directly.  This lecture is almost finished.  If
anyone has any suggestions for future lectures please contact me offline or
post them here if you want to stimulate discussion.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com




From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Mon Apr 12 00:51:37 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 00:51:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Wolfwares Archives temporarily offline!
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227AA9@main2.marlow.com>

Just an FYI, I was in the middle of moving, so I am just now getting a
chance to send this email.  The archives at http://www.wolfwares.com/AccessD
are temporarily offline.  I have my server at work, hooked up to a T1, but
it's setup specifically for some other stuff I am hosting.  DSL at my new
place is supposed to be online this Thursday, so the archives will be back
up then.

Drew

P.S.-- This was a planned move (sort of...didn't plan enough! LOL), nothing
like I've had to deal with in the past.  I am exhausted though.  Drew's
living arrangements puts the Atkins diet to shame! LOL.


From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Mon Apr 12 10:19:02 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 10:19:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] MS product deployment through an IIS server
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227AAD@main2.marlow.com>

Are you talking about Outlook Web Access? (OWA for short)

OWA is a component of Microsoft Exchange. It is a 'web site' built with ASP
pages.  Pretty slick, but as far as I know, there are no Word, Excel or
Access equivalents.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
(AccessD)
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 1:23 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] MS product deployment through an IIS server


Hi All:

Does anyone know the method or where to get information on deploying an
application through an IIS server (version 5plus) via your web browser. My
understanding is that all MS products can be ran in this way. I have been
looking at one application, Outlook, that is ran through an IIS server, from
work and can pick up and respond to the mail messages as if I was
there...eliminates the need for hotmail and the like.

If this is so, and the applications do not require a complete re-write, it
opens up an interesting set of possibilities.

TIA
Jim


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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Mon Apr 12 10:21:52 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 10:21:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227AAE@main2.marlow.com>

Learn ASP first.  PHP....yeck.  LOL.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren DICK
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 9:17 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved


Chicken - yes
I have people here wanting me to Learn ASP and PHP pronto, but I don't wanna
(says he, stamping his foot)

Thanks again
I did get it solved using the create Number method then changing the
attributes of the number data type to 
something very similar to what you described in one 
of your original posts

BTW - you gonna share the splenda choc chip recipe with the list? :-))

Darren


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:54 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K:Create Fields via code - Solved


> Chicken. ;) ... And thank you -- will be stuffing eggs before the day is
> through -- and have a great weekend yourself! :) 
> 
> I haven't had a peep yet -- not one. 
> 
> FWIW, if you don't get this resolved I'd be glad to hand over the exact
code
> -- I have it somewhere, just a matter of finding it. :) 
> 
> Susan H. 
> 
> Thanks Susan
> I struggle - and I mean struggle - with VBA I have seen code examples in
the
> 2000 Developer for ADOX. It looks quite relative to VB and VBA but I think
I
> will give it a miss.
> :-))
> (Thanks but no thanks - luddite here)
> 
> Have a great day and a safe Easter
> 
> Thanks again for your help
> 
> Darren
> 
> 
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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Mon Apr 12 13:08:44 2004
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 11:08:44 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2000 error
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPOEIJHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <001001c420b9$31cb9280$8500a8c0@CX615377a>

Folks,

I inherited an Access 2000 database to do some work on.  I have not done
anything to the wizard built switchboard but it now breaks an the line
"Set con = Application.CurrentProject.Connection".  Checked the
references and MS data objects active-x library 2.1 is checked.  When I
type in the same line auto completion fills in all the correct items so
the terminology is correct for the given references.  Any idea why this
thing is breaking?

Doug






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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 7:14 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Framework Discussion page rebuild


I have gone through all of the discussions and built a specific mdb and
matching document zipped as a pair in a zip file.  The framework
discussion page on my site now has 12 "chapters" built in this manner.
This should make following the document easier.  Anyone going through
the new document / database who finds any issues please email me offline
to let me know and I will attempt to get such issues fixed and reposted.
I did have to go carve out some of the chapters from the databases where
I had just updated the db for several chapters so there may be a few
issues.  Again, I will attempt to fix any issues brought to my attention
and repost.

In the future, all documents will be built with a matching database as
the document is written and so should match "exactly".

More are on the way.  I use a class for Openargs that parse the args and
apply known framework args directly.  This lecture is almost finished.
If anyone has any suggestions for future lectures please contact me
offline or post them here if you want to stimulate discussion.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Mon Apr 12 13:33:25 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 13:33:25 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2000 error
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227AB2@main2.marlow.com>

That is DAO you have set.  You need ADO, which is Microsoft ActiveX Data
Objects. (I personally set 2.5)

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Doug Murphy
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 1:09 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2000 error


Folks,

I inherited an Access 2000 database to do some work on.  I have not done
anything to the wizard built switchboard but it now breaks an the line
"Set con = Application.CurrentProject.Connection".  Checked the
references and MS data objects active-x library 2.1 is checked.  When I
type in the same line auto completion fills in all the correct items so
the terminology is correct for the given references.  Any idea why this
thing is breaking?

Doug






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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 7:14 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Framework Discussion page rebuild


I have gone through all of the discussions and built a specific mdb and
matching document zipped as a pair in a zip file.  The framework
discussion page on my site now has 12 "chapters" built in this manner.
This should make following the document easier.  Anyone going through
the new document / database who finds any issues please email me offline
to let me know and I will attempt to get such issues fixed and reposted.
I did have to go carve out some of the chapters from the databases where
I had just updated the db for several chapters so there may be a few
issues.  Again, I will attempt to fix any issues brought to my attention
and repost.

In the future, all documents will be built with a matching database as
the document is written and so should match "exactly".

More are on the way.  I use a class for Openargs that parse the args and
apply known framework args directly.  This lecture is almost finished.
If anyone has any suggestions for future lectures please contact me
offline or post them here if you want to stimulate discussion.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Mon Apr 12 13:35:57 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 13:35:57 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions
Message-ID: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE4F2@TAPPEEXCH01>

I recall a discussion a while back about discount sources for MSDN
subscriptions.  We are looking to purchase 5 subscriptions, either
Enterprise or possibly Universal depending on the pricing.  
 
I found the Universal box here for $1135 (with an additional $300 DVD media
discount!):
http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696
<http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696> 
 
Can anyone top this?

Brett Barabash, MCP 
Tappe Construction, Co. 
Eagan, MN 
bbarabash at tappeconstruction.com 
(651) 256-6831 

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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Mon Apr 12 13:39:14 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 13:39:14 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions
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Oops, I posted the link to the upgrade version ($1135).  The full version is
$1200:
http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=589

(@$#!%? price comparison engines...)

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I recall a discussion a while back about discount sources for MSDN
subscriptions.  We are looking to purchase 5 subscriptions, either
Enterprise or possibly Universal depending on the pricing.  
 
I found the Universal box here for $1135 (with an additional $300 DVD media
discount!):
http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696
<http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696> 
 
Can anyone top this?

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Tappe Construction, Co. 
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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Mon Apr 12 13:43:38 2004
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 11:43:38 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2000 error
In-Reply-To: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227AB2@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <001101c420be$14baad70$8500a8c0@CX615377a>

The ActiveX Data Objects 2.1 (ADO) is checked I just reversed the order
of the words in my original message. My dyslexia is showing.  Tried 2.5
and got the same message.

This may be one of the AccessXP/2000 anomolies.  When I move the DB to
my XP development machine it works fine.  It compiles on both machines.
???

Doug




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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 11:33 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 2000 error


That is DAO you have set.  You need ADO, which is Microsoft ActiveX Data
Objects. (I personally set 2.5)

Drew

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Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 1:09 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2000 error


Folks,

I inherited an Access 2000 database to do some work on.  I have not done
anything to the wizard built switchboard but it now breaks an the line
"Set con = Application.CurrentProject.Connection".  Checked the
references and MS data objects active-x library 2.1 is checked.  When I
type in the same line auto completion fills in all the correct items so
the terminology is correct for the given references.  Any idea why this
thing is breaking?

Doug






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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 7:14 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Framework Discussion page rebuild


I have gone through all of the discussions and built a specific mdb and
matching document zipped as a pair in a zip file.  The framework
discussion page on my site now has 12 "chapters" built in this manner.
This should make following the document easier.  Anyone going through
the new document / database who finds any issues please email me offline
to let me know and I will attempt to get such issues fixed and reposted.
I did have to go carve out some of the chapters from the databases where
I had just updated the db for several chapters so there may be a few
issues.  Again, I will attempt to fix any issues brought to my attention
and repost.

In the future, all documents will be built with a matching database as
the document is written and so should match "exactly".

More are on the way.  I use a class for Openargs that parse the args and
apply known framework args directly.  This lecture is almost finished.
If anyone has any suggestions for future lectures please contact me
offline or post them here if you want to stimulate discussion.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Mon Apr 12 13:57:45 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 14:57:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions
In-Reply-To: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE4F3@TAPPEEXCH01>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKMEINIPAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Brett,

  I paid $1175 for my Universal subscription, so your $1200 is not that far
off.  I'm not sure if the folks I deal with would cut you a deal considering
that your thinking of 5 or not, but here is a contact:

Sheldon Scheu
AKS Web Services, LLC

sheldon at akswebservices.com

  Please mention my name.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 2:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions


Oops, I posted the link to the upgrade version ($1135).  The full version is
$1200:
http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=589

(@$#!%? price comparison engines...)

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 1:36 PM
To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions


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I recall a discussion a while back about discount sources for MSDN
subscriptions.  We are looking to purchase 5 subscriptions, either
Enterprise or possibly Universal depending on the pricing.

I found the Universal box here for $1135 (with an additional $300 DVD media
discount!):
http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696
<http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696>

Can anyone top this?

Brett Barabash, MCP
Tappe Construction, Co.
Eagan, MN
bbarabash at tappeconstruction.com
(651) 256-6831

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Mon Apr 12 14:02:05 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 14:02:05 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2000 error
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227AB3@main2.marlow.com>

Very odd.  I was wondering if you just switched the words around, cause I
thought DAO was 'Data Access Objects'.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Doug Murphy
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 1:44 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 2000 error


The ActiveX Data Objects 2.1 (ADO) is checked I just reversed the order
of the words in my original message. My dyslexia is showing.  Tried 2.5
and got the same message.

This may be one of the AccessXP/2000 anomolies.  When I move the DB to
my XP development machine it works fine.  It compiles on both machines.
???

Doug




-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 11:33 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 2000 error


That is DAO you have set.  You need ADO, which is Microsoft ActiveX Data
Objects. (I personally set 2.5)

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Doug Murphy
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 1:09 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2000 error


Folks,

I inherited an Access 2000 database to do some work on.  I have not done
anything to the wizard built switchboard but it now breaks an the line
"Set con = Application.CurrentProject.Connection".  Checked the
references and MS data objects active-x library 2.1 is checked.  When I
type in the same line auto completion fills in all the correct items so
the terminology is correct for the given references.  Any idea why this
thing is breaking?

Doug






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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 7:14 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Framework Discussion page rebuild


I have gone through all of the discussions and built a specific mdb and
matching document zipped as a pair in a zip file.  The framework
discussion page on my site now has 12 "chapters" built in this manner.
This should make following the document easier.  Anyone going through
the new document / database who finds any issues please email me offline
to let me know and I will attempt to get such issues fixed and reposted.
I did have to go carve out some of the chapters from the databases where
I had just updated the db for several chapters so there may be a few
issues.  Again, I will attempt to fix any issues brought to my attention
and repost.

In the future, all documents will be built with a matching database as
the document is written and so should match "exactly".

More are on the way.  I use a class for Openargs that parse the args and
apply known framework args directly.  This lecture is almost finished.
If anyone has any suggestions for future lectures please contact me
offline or post them here if you want to stimulate discussion.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


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From COUTTSW at rjrt.com  Mon Apr 12 14:48:11 2004
From: COUTTSW at rjrt.com (Coutts, Welford L.)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 15:48:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Separating First and Last Names
Message-ID: <1731B69D9D03DB49881574BBECDE6CAC675D88@wsmailp1.rjr.com>

I have received a large file containing a large number of Full Names.
I need to separate the First Name and Middle Initial, if any, into one field
and the Last Name into a separate field.
 
What is the most efficient way to do this?
 
Thanks!
 
Welford Coutts
 
 




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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Mon Apr 12 15:19:23 2004
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 16:19:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions
Message-ID: <806536912C472E4A9D6515DF2E57261E2397BF@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Why is this so cheap?
Microsoft advertises it for $2,799.
What am I missing?

JR

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From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 2:58 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions

Brett,

  I paid $1175 for my Universal subscription, so your $1200 is not that far
off.  I'm not sure if the folks I deal with would cut you a deal considering
that your thinking of 5 or not, but here is a contact:

Sheldon Scheu
AKS Web Services, LLC

sheldon at akswebservices.com

  Please mention my name.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 2:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions


Oops, I posted the link to the upgrade version ($1135).  The full version is
$1200:
http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=589

(@$#!%? price comparison engines...)

-----Original Message-----
From: Brett Barabash [mailto:BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com]
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 1:36 PM
To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions


--------------Please open with care!------------
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I recall a discussion a while back about discount sources for MSDN
subscriptions.  We are looking to purchase 5 subscriptions, either
Enterprise or possibly Universal depending on the pricing.

I found the Universal box here for $1135 (with an additional $300 DVD media
discount!):
http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696
<http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696>

Can anyone top this?

Brett Barabash, MCP
Tappe Construction, Co.
Eagan, MN
bbarabash at tappeconstruction.com
(651) 256-6831

"One thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a
cardboard box and sit in a warehouse."  -Jack Handey



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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Mon Apr 12 15:24:00 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 16:24:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Separating First and Last Names
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Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 168799
HOWTO: Parse a Person's Name into Multiple Variables
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=168799

Pay particular attention to the assumptions...but this should give you a
good start.


Mark


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Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 3:48 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Separating First and Last Names


I have received a large file containing a large number of Full Names.
I need to separate the First Name and Middle Initial, if any, into one field
and the Last Name into a separate field.
 
What is the most efficient way to do this?
 
Thanks!
 
Welford Coutts
 
 




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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Apr 12 15:38:45 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 13:38:45 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Separating First and Last Names
References: <1731B69D9D03DB49881574BBECDE6CAC675D88@wsmailp1.rjr.com>
Message-ID: <017201c420ce$26b2a450$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Welford:

I can see all kinds of mines in that field but if they're regular (ie, first
name, space, middle initial if any followed by period and space, last name),
then it's easy to parse using INSTR.

The easiest would be to INSTR a period and break there if it found one.

If no period is found then next I would INSTR the first space and break it
there.

If there are middle initials without periods then you'd have to scan
backwards from the end of the name string, character by character, looking
for the first space and break it there.

This would be just a few lines of code and would execute fast enough so that
you could run it and eyeball the results and see how accurate the first pass
was.  Then begin to add rules to refine the results - take care of the
exceptions.

Does it have to be 100% perfect?  Are there titles on the Dr.s and Prof.s?
Are there any compound last names separated by a space?  Anyone with two
middle names?  Did I ask if it had to be 100% perfect?

HTH

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


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Subject: [AccessD] Separating First and Last Names


I have received a large file containing a large number of Full Names.
I need to separate the First Name and Middle Initial, if any, into one field
and the Last Name into a separate field.

What is the most efficient way to do this?

Thanks!

Welford Coutts






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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Mon Apr 12 15:46:03 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 15:46:03 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions
Message-ID: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE4F5@TAPPEEXCH01>

Thanks Jim.  I dropped your name in an email to him.

I'm not really that concerned about the nickels and dimes.  I'm more
concerned that we buy from a reputable source.  If his quote is in the same
ballpark as the other sources, I will recommend him instead.  It means more
to me that we are giving $6k  to a reputable source who will deliver the
proper goods.


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From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 1:58 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions

Brett,

  I paid $1175 for my Universal subscription, so your $1200 is not that far
off.  I'm not sure if the folks I deal with would cut you a deal considering
that your thinking of 5 or not, but here is a contact:

Sheldon Scheu
AKS Web Services, LLC

sheldon at akswebservices.com

  Please mention my name.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 2:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions


Oops, I posted the link to the upgrade version ($1135).  The full version is
$1200:
http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=589

(@$#!%? price comparison engines...)

-----Original Message-----
From: Brett Barabash [mailto:BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com]
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 1:36 PM
To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions


--------------Please open with care!------------
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I recall a discussion a while back about discount sources for MSDN
subscriptions.  We are looking to purchase 5 subscriptions, either
Enterprise or possibly Universal depending on the pricing.

I found the Universal box here for $1135 (with an additional $300 DVD media
discount!):
http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696
<http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696>

Can anyone top this?

Brett Barabash, MCP
Tappe Construction, Co.
Eagan, MN
bbarabash at tappeconstruction.com
(651) 256-6831

"One thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a
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From Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us  Mon Apr 12 15:52:33 2004
From: Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us (O'Connor, Patricia  )
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 16:52:33 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Separating First and Last Names
Message-ID: <B94C79B465542042AB0748EAF37F9AC006D50A@EXCNYSM0A1AB.nysemail.nyenet>

Well it depends on how the input field is formatted. 
 
What if someone does not have a middle name? 
Is it middle name or just middle initial?
Are there suffixes or titles in the name (Sr., Jr., Dr.)
What is done about people with two last names or last names with space in middle De Carlo etc.
 
I have some routines that were set up for this on mainframe - I might have converted them to vba but would have to search for them
 
Could always check Dev Ashish's site for a routine
 
Patti
 
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I have received a large file containing a large number of Full Names.
I need to separate the First Name and Middle Initial, if any, into one field
and the Last Name into a separate field.

What is the most efficient way to do this?

Thanks!

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From mikedorism at adelphia.net  Mon Apr 12 15:10:42 2004
From: mikedorism at adelphia.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 16:10:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Separating First and Last Names
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Message-ID: <000001c420ca$3c0d1730$130aa845@hargrove.internal>

If you have AccessXP (not sure if it is in lower versions), you could use
the Split function.

Doris Manning
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I have received a large file containing a large number of Full Names. I need
to separate the First Name and Middle Initial, if any, into one field and
the Last Name into a separate field.
 
What is the most efficient way to do this?
 
Thanks!
 
Welford Coutts
 
 




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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Mon Apr 12 16:10:45 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 17:10:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions
In-Reply-To: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE4F5@TAPPEEXCH01>
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Brett,

  I've purchased from them 2 years running and have not had any problems.  I
also know of several individuals who purchased through them and did not have
any problems either.

Jim
(315) 699-3443
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Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 4:46 PM
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Thanks Jim.  I dropped your name in an email to him.

I'm not really that concerned about the nickels and dimes.  I'm more
concerned that we buy from a reputable source.  If his quote is in the same
ballpark as the other sources, I will recommend him instead.  It means more
to me that we are giving $6k  to a reputable source who will deliver the
proper goods.


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Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 1:58 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
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Brett,

  I paid $1175 for my Universal subscription, so your $1200 is not that far
off.  I'm not sure if the folks I deal with would cut you a deal considering
that your thinking of 5 or not, but here is a contact:

Sheldon Scheu
AKS Web Services, LLC

sheldon at akswebservices.com

  Please mention my name.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 2:39 PM
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Oops, I posted the link to the upgrade version ($1135).  The full version is
$1200:
http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=589

(@$#!%? price comparison engines...)

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I recall a discussion a while back about discount sources for MSDN
subscriptions.  We are looking to purchase 5 subscriptions, either
Enterprise or possibly Universal depending on the pricing.

I found the Universal box here for $1135 (with an additional $300 DVD media
discount!):
http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696
<http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696>

Can anyone top this?

Brett Barabash, MCP
Tappe Construction, Co.
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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Mon Apr 12 16:11:36 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 17:11:36 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions
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Joe,

  $2,799 is the "list" price.  Microsoft partners are allowed to sell for
what ever they can get up to list price.  Microsoft itself always sells at
list.

Jim Dettman
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Rojas
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Why is this so cheap?
Microsoft advertises it for $2,799.
What am I missing?

JR

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Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 2:58 PM
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Brett,

  I paid $1175 for my Universal subscription, so your $1200 is not that far
off.  I'm not sure if the folks I deal with would cut you a deal considering
that your thinking of 5 or not, but here is a contact:

Sheldon Scheu
AKS Web Services, LLC

sheldon at akswebservices.com

  Please mention my name.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 2:39 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions


Oops, I posted the link to the upgrade version ($1135).  The full version is
$1200:
http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=589

(@$#!%? price comparison engines...)

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I recall a discussion a while back about discount sources for MSDN
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Enterprise or possibly Universal depending on the pricing.

I found the Universal box here for $1135 (with an additional $300 DVD media
discount!):
http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696
<http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696>

Can anyone top this?

Brett Barabash, MCP
Tappe Construction, Co.
Eagan, MN
bbarabash at tappeconstruction.com
(651) 256-6831

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From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Mon Apr 12 16:40:22 2004
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 16:40:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Get data from Word Doc - A2K
Message-ID: <FKEBJOENDDBJHLINGOBHOEICFFAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

I have a 393 page Word document that has data about bridges.  Every 3 pages
is one bridge meaning every third page is formatted exactly alike (Page 1
and Page 4 are alike, Page 2 and Page 5, Page 3 and 6).   There are about 10
pieces of data I would like to extract about every bridge, a little bit on
each of the three pages.

Is it possible to scan thru this document somehow and 'extract' these 10
items from it to Access?

I have tried to copy the document to Excel, but a lot of the text from Word
will end up in one cell rather than split into a cell of its own.

Thanks.

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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Mon Apr 12 16:58:20 2004
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 14:58:20 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2000 error
In-Reply-To: <001101c420be$14baad70$8500a8c0@CX615377a>
Message-ID: <000701c420d9$44db47b0$8500a8c0@CX615377a>

For what ever it is worth the error is apparently caused by the version
of Jet on the machine.  I installed the latest jet 4 service pack and
the problem went away.  Found a vague reference to this on the MS
knowledge base.

The original cause may have been that I was working on the DB in Access
XP/2000 format.  I then moved a copy to an actual version of Access 2000
on another machine to test before sending off to the customer.  After
hosing a previous DB I am carefull to open and recompile a DB when
moving back and forth between XP and 2000, but this seems different than
the vb6 dll thing.

Doug





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Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 11:44 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 2000 error


The ActiveX Data Objects 2.1 (ADO) is checked I just reversed the order
of the words in my original message. My dyslexia is showing.  Tried 2.5
and got the same message.

This may be one of the AccessXP/2000 anomolies.  When I move the DB to
my XP development machine it works fine.  It compiles on both machines.
???

Doug




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That is DAO you have set.  You need ADO, which is Microsoft ActiveX Data
Objects. (I personally set 2.5)

Drew

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Folks,

I inherited an Access 2000 database to do some work on.  I have not done
anything to the wizard built switchboard but it now breaks an the line
"Set con = Application.CurrentProject.Connection".  Checked the
references and MS data objects active-x library 2.1 is checked.  When I
type in the same line auto completion fills in all the correct items so
the terminology is correct for the given references.  Any idea why this
thing is breaking?

Doug






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Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 7:14 PM
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Subject: [AccessD] Framework Discussion page rebuild


I have gone through all of the discussions and built a specific mdb and
matching document zipped as a pair in a zip file.  The framework
discussion page on my site now has 12 "chapters" built in this manner.
This should make following the document easier.  Anyone going through
the new document / database who finds any issues please email me offline
to let me know and I will attempt to get such issues fixed and reposted.
I did have to go carve out some of the chapters from the databases where
I had just updated the db for several chapters so there may be a few
issues.  Again, I will attempt to fix any issues brought to my attention
and repost.

In the future, all documents will be built with a matching database as
the document is written and so should match "exactly".

More are on the way.  I use a class for Openargs that parse the args and
apply known framework args directly.  This lecture is almost finished.
If anyone has any suggestions for future lectures please contact me
offline or post them here if you want to stimulate discussion.

John W. Colby
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Apr 12 20:44:13 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 18:44:13 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2000 error
References: <001101c420be$14baad70$8500a8c0@CX615377a>
Message-ID: <407B45ED.4090205@shaw.ca>

The default install of MDAC on WinXP is 2.7
If you have multiple installs of  MDAC on your system. the highest level 
of the MDAC points to
MSADO15.dll  Lower levels of ADO  MDAC point to a .tlb file like MSADO26.tlb
 On  my system I have Access 97 and 2003 installed so I have MDAC 2.1 
installed as well due to 97 being there.
 So my selection of references is
 ADO  2.7  ---- MSADO15.dll
 ADO  2.6  ---- MSADO26.tlb
 ADO  2.5  ---- MSADO25.tlb
 ADO  2.1  ---- MSADO21.tlb
I would check what file your references are pointing to.
You may not have MDAC 2.1 installed on one of your machines,  this MDAC 
is available as a seperate
download from http://www.microsoft/data and is only installed with lower 
versions of Access.
Also some of these MDAC's like 2.5 have up to 3 SP's.
MDAC 2.7 and 2.8 don't run on Win95
I would pick one MDAC depending on your OSes and standardize on it. 
Remembering each OS version comes with a specific level of the MDAC.

Doug Murphy wrote:

>The ActiveX Data Objects 2.1 (ADO) is checked I just reversed the order
>of the words in my original message. My dyslexia is showing.  Tried 2.5
>and got the same message.
>
>This may be one of the AccessXP/2000 anomolies.  When I move the DB to
>my XP development machine it works fine.  It compiles on both machines.
>???
>
>Doug
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
>DWUTKA at marlow.com
>Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 11:33 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 2000 error
>
>
>That is DAO you have set.  You need ADO, which is Microsoft ActiveX Data
>Objects. (I personally set 2.5)
>
>Drew
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Doug Murphy
>Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 1:09 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: [AccessD] Access 2000 error
>
>
>Folks,
>
>I inherited an Access 2000 database to do some work on.  I have not done
>anything to the wizard built switchboard but it now breaks an the line
>"Set con = Application.CurrentProject.Connection".  Checked the
>references and MS data objects active-x library 2.1 is checked.  When I
>type in the same line auto completion fills in all the correct items so
>the terminology is correct for the given references.  Any idea why this
>thing is breaking?
>
>Doug
>
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
>Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 7:14 PM
>To: AccessD
>Subject: [AccessD] Framework Discussion page rebuild
>
>
>I have gone through all of the discussions and built a specific mdb and
>matching document zipped as a pair in a zip file.  The framework
>discussion page on my site now has 12 "chapters" built in this manner.
>This should make following the document easier.  Anyone going through
>the new document / database who finds any issues please email me offline
>to let me know and I will attempt to get such issues fixed and reposted.
>I did have to go carve out some of the chapters from the databases where
>I had just updated the db for several chapters so there may be a few
>issues.  Again, I will attempt to fix any issues brought to my attention
>and repost.
>
>In the future, all documents will be built with a matching database as
>the document is written and so should match "exactly".
>
>More are on the way.  I use a class for Openargs that parse the args and
>apply known framework args directly.  This lecture is almost finished.
>If anyone has any suggestions for future lectures please contact me
>offline or post them here if you want to stimulate discussion.
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>
>  
>

-- 
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Canada





From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Tue Apr 13 01:52:26 2004
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 07:52:26 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Remove non-alphanumeric characters
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C07C@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>

Thanks for comments Andy!

Looks a bit simpler than my solution - I'll give it a go.

Chris Foote (UK)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk]
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 5:55 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Remove non-alphanumeric characters
> 
> 
> Well personally I'd find it easier to read if you just 
> compared characters,
> so. Also, as long as your Option Compare doesn't cause case-sensitive
> comparisoins, you need only test for a-z once.
> 
> For intPos = 1 To Len(spAlphaNum)
> strChar = Mid(spAlphaNum, intPos, 1)
> Select Case strChar
> Case "0" To "9"   ' Numeric
> strClean = strClean + strChar
> Case "a" To "z"   ' Uppercase Alpha
> strClean = strClean + Ucase(strChar)
> Case Else
> End Select
> Next intPos
> 
> --
> Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> 
> 
> 
> --------- Original Message --------
> From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: [AccessD] Remove non-alphanumeric characters
> Date: 08/04/04 15:39
> 
> >
> > Good afternoon all!
> >
> > I have a requirement to strip a string of all 
> non-alphanumeric characters.
> > In addition I wanted to change all upper-case characters to 
> lower-case.


From jskolits at CorporateDataDesign.com  Tue Apr 13 02:59:52 2004
From: jskolits at CorporateDataDesign.com (John Skolits)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 03:59:52 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT -  Windows CE
In-Reply-To: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKKEJEIPAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <000001c4212d$4d34fe20$6701a8c0@OFFICEXP1>


Any advice on doing some basic forms with a backend DB on Windows CE?

I'm not a C programmer but certainly been doing Access/VBA since Access came
out. Are there any object oriented tools similar to Access that I can use to
build forms and do VBA type code.

Any good newsgroups for CE that would help me out?

John Skolits



From thevigil at kabelfoon.nl  Tue Apr 13 03:02:13 2004
From: thevigil at kabelfoon.nl (Bert-Jan Brinkhuis)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 10:02:13 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Get data from Word Doc - A2K
References: <FKEBJOENDDBJHLINGOBHOEICFFAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>
Message-ID: <002201c4212d$a309f440$3f412d3e@jester>

Reuben,

just a thought: isn't it possible to save the word document as a txt file
and open that in access an scan line by line? If the line's have specific
word's it must be possible to find them. Or maybe you know which linenumbers
you want to scan?

Bert-Jan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Reuben Cummings" <reuben at gfconsultants.com>
To: "AccessD" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 11:40 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Get data from Word Doc - A2K


> I have a 393 page Word document that has data about bridges.  Every 3
pages
> is one bridge meaning every third page is formatted exactly alike (Page 1
> and Page 4 are alike, Page 2 and Page 5, Page 3 and 6).   There are about
10
> pieces of data I would like to extract about every bridge, a little bit on
> each of the three pages.
>
> Is it possible to scan thru this document somehow and 'extract' these 10
> items from it to Access?
>
> I have tried to copy the document to Excel, but a lot of the text from
Word
> will end up in one cell rather than split into a cell of its own.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Reuben Cummings
> GFC, LLC
> phone: 812.523.1017
> email: reuben at gfconsultants.com
>
>
>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 13 04:23:44 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 19:23:44 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT -  Windows CE
In-Reply-To: <000001c4212d$4d34fe20$6701a8c0@OFFICEXP1>
References: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKKEJEIPAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <407C3E40.25250.273E516@localhost>

On 13 Apr 2004 at 3:59, John Skolits wrote:

> 
> Any advice on doing some basic forms with a backend DB on Windows CE?
> 
> I'm not a C programmer but certainly been doing Access/VBA since Access came
> out. Are there any object oriented tools similar to Access that I can use to
> build forms and do VBA type code.
> 

A couple of useful links:

http://www.syware.com/newsrev/pr/vcewm03.htm

and

http://www.wirelessdevnet.com/channels/pda/features/ado_ce.html

 
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Apr 12 09:04:45 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 16:04:45 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
In-Reply-To: <01c501c41aad$5502fca0$48619a89@DDICK>
References: <40706F3F.16231.9E7B12@localhost>
	<01c501c41aad$5502fca0$48619a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <11019402659.20040412160445@cactus.dk>

Hi Darren

> Hi Bryan
> I did that no joy eg.

That is because your expression will never be True as

  Me.cmbOffence = ""

will be Null if Me.cmbOffence is Null, and then

  IsNull(Me.cmbOffence) Or Null

will return Null as well.

The fastest method is:

  If Len(Me.cmbOffence & vbNullString) = 0

but mostly I prefer to use Nz():

  If Len(Nz(Me.cmbOffence, vbNullString)) = 0

As Stuart mentions, you may omit the last part, but you must be sure
that the value tested is either Null or a string (which is the case
here as I guess cmbOffence is a combobox):

  If Len(Nz(Me.cmbOffence.Value)) = 0

/gustav


> Private Sub Form_BeforeUpdate(Cancel As Integer)

> If IsNull(Me.cmbOffence) Or Me.cmbOffence = "" Then
>     MsgBox "Enter an offence"
>     Cancel = True
> End If

> End Sub

> What I need to do is somehow test if the user is on a new fresh record or has left th previous record with unfilled combos. Of
> course I can do it on the lost and got focus event.Thats fine whilst I am in the record
> EG record 5 has no offence recorded
> User goes to record 6 How do i alert the user that record 5 has a missing value then go back to that record?


> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at sympatico.ca>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problemsolving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 10:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record


>> On 5 Apr 2004 at 10:08, Darren DICK wrote:
>>
>> >  I have a simple subform with 4 fields on it
>> > ID (PK),  txtDateOfOccurence, cboClientName, cboOffence
>> >
>> > How can I tell if the user goes to a new record and they have not
>> > completed ALL fields in the previous record How do I alert them and
>> > then direct them back to the previous record?
>>
>> Use the before update event of the form. Check to make sure they
>> entered a vale and if not set Cancel = true in the event. That should
>> prevent the record from being saved and keep the sub form on the
>> "unfinished" record



From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Tue Apr 13 07:04:33 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 08:04:33 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Get data from Word Doc - A2K
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB5C@nnse14.nns.com>

I'd second that approach and take the time to mention Seth Galitzer's often
utilized File I/O code snippets. http://puma.agron.ksu.edu/~sgsax/ 



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Bert-Jan Brinkhuis [mailto:thevigil at kabelfoon.nl] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 4:02 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Get data from Word Doc - A2K


Reuben,

just a thought: isn't it possible to save the word document as a txt file
and open that in access an scan line by line? If the line's have specific
word's it must be possible to find them. Or maybe you know which linenumbers
you want to scan?

Bert-Jan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Reuben Cummings" <reuben at gfconsultants.com>
To: "AccessD" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 11:40 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Get data from Word Doc - A2K


> I have a 393 page Word document that has data about bridges.  Every 3
pages
> is one bridge meaning every third page is formatted exactly alike (Page 1
> and Page 4 are alike, Page 2 and Page 5, Page 3 and 6).   There are about
10
> pieces of data I would like to extract about every bridge, a little bit on
> each of the three pages.
>
> Is it possible to scan thru this document somehow and 'extract' these 10
> items from it to Access?
>
> I have tried to copy the document to Excel, but a lot of the text from
Word
> will end up in one cell rather than split into a cell of its own.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Reuben Cummings
> GFC, LLC
> phone: 812.523.1017
> email: reuben at gfconsultants.com
>
>
>
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From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca  Tue Apr 13 07:25:17 2004
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 08:25:17 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Get data from Word Doc - A2K
Message-ID: <s07ba3f7.024@cbc.ca>

If the info you need is in a consistant format, you can loop through the
paragraphs in the word doc and then parse it that way, something like:

Dim objWord As Word.Application
Dim doc As Document
Dim para As Paragraph
Dim strPara As String

Set objWord = CreateObject("Word.Application")

Set doc = objWord.Documents.Open("c:\full\path\to\Filename.doc")

For Each para In doc.Paragraphs
  'Get the text of the paragraph
  strPara = para.Range.Text
  'Parse strPara here looking for what you need
Next

Set para = Nothing
doc.Close
Set doc = Nothing
objWord.Quit
Set objWord = Nothing

Bryan Carbonnell
bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca

>>> reuben at gfconsultants.com 12-Apr-04 5:40:22 PM >>>
I have a 393 page Word document that has data about bridges.  Every 3
pages
is one bridge meaning every third page is formatted exactly alike (Page
1
and Page 4 are alike, Page 2 and Page 5, Page 3 and 6).   There are
about 10
pieces of data I would like to extract about every bridge, a little bit
on
each of the three pages.

Is it possible to scan thru this document somehow and 'extract' these
10
items from it to Access?

I have tried to copy the document to Excel, but a lot of the text from
Word
will end up in one cell rather than split into a cell of its own.

Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com 



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From mastercafe at ctv.es  Tue Apr 13 07:33:46 2004
From: mastercafe at ctv.es (MastercafeCTV)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 14:33:46 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] XML DATA ACCESS
In-Reply-To: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB5C@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <000701c42153$90e05680$0300a8c0@masterserver>

We are searching information about XML for use on Access and prepare data
for web. If anyone can help with url's or discussion sites about this we are
glad.

Thanks in advance


Juan Menendez


================================
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From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Tue Apr 13 07:59:43 2004
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 13:59:43 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Ownership
Message-ID: <F37DAC9A2964B144A2973EBCA8C54DBDABD3B9@BURY2K23.bury.gov.uk>

Hi

 

Appear to be getting requests for consultancy work - ie writing
small/medium Access/VB systems.   Does anyone know the ownership
situation for the UK. Can they (my clients) sell on any system I write?
Can they demand the source code from me? Or do I have exclusive rights
to the code and sell on?

 

Thanks in advance

 

Richard



From jskolits at CorporateDataDesign.com  Tue Apr 13 08:20:51 2004
From: jskolits at CorporateDataDesign.com (John Skolits)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 09:20:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT -  Windows CE
In-Reply-To: <407C3E40.25250.273E516@localhost>
Message-ID: <000001c4215a$24d8d5a0$6701a8c0@OFFICEXP1>

Great stuff! That'll get me started. I really appreciate it!

John

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 5:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT - Windows CE


On 13 Apr 2004 at 3:59, John Skolits wrote:

> 
> Any advice on doing some basic forms with a backend DB on Windows CE?
> 
> I'm not a C programmer but certainly been doing Access/VBA since 
> Access came out. Are there any object oriented tools similar to Access 
> that I can use to build forms and do VBA type code.
> 

A couple of useful links:

http://www.syware.com/newsrev/pr/vcewm03.htm

and

http://www.wirelessdevnet.com/channels/pda/features/ado_ce.html

 
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 13 05:33:47 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 12:33:47 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: open source
In-Reply-To: <015801c41f62$fedb2f90$6501a8c0@rock>
References: <015801c41f62$fedb2f90$6501a8c0@rock>
Message-ID: <17911601181.20040413123347@cactus.dk>

Hi Arthur

Did you check out BlackAdder and/or Rekall at

  http://www.thekompany.com

Not Access clones, and you'll have to like Python ...

/gustav


> IMO there would be a significant shift in the Linux world if somebody
> released something even close to Access. Yeah, there's Jbuilder and
> Kylix and such, and a few dbAdmin apps for MySQL, but there is no free
> or inexpensive RAD db dev app for Linux... And until there is, few if
> any of us will move our businesses there.



From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 13 06:28:24 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 13:28:24 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Wierd AccXP memo happenings.
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB3F3@ADGSERVER>
References: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB3F3@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <8614878414.20040413132824@cactus.dk>

Hi Bobby

1. What happens if you attach the memo content to another record?

2. Try to locate what part of the memo causes the blow. You do that by
cutting it in two, then try with the first and then with the second
part; continue along this road with the part that fails until you have
tracked the malfunctioning part. This may tell you something.

/gustav


> Hi all,

> I have a query that pulls data from several tables.  Been running well for
> years.  I get a call on Monday that it will not print all the way.  So after
> some researching, I found out that the report was blowing up when it got to
> a certain page.

> What was happening is that the data from this one table is all of type
> double.  BUT, for some reason, this one record is returning with the data
> from a memo field from the same record (not pulled in the query) and is
> blowing up where I am trying to keep up with some totals.

> I can delete the data out of the memo and the query runs correctly.  I past
> back the data and it blows up again.  So, I save the memo data in notepad,
> remove it from the record, compact the database, import it into a new
> database, then add the data back form notepad, and it blows again!

> Any ideas (short of moving the memo field to its own record) on how to fix
> this sort of problem?  It runs great on 100+ other database (all back-ends).

> Thanks,
> Bobby



From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 13 07:49:34 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 14:49:34 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Remove non-alphanumeric characters
In-Reply-To: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C07B@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>
References: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C07B@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>
Message-ID: <9819748166.20040413144934@cactus.dk>

Hi Chris

> I have a requirement to strip a string of all non-alphanumeric characters.
> In addition I wanted to change all upper-case characters to lower-case. I
> could not find any ready-rolled solution so I've come up with the code
> below.

> Can anyone think of a more simple way of doing this?

I don't think so. However, if you are about to handle large strings,
the appending method will prove very slow. If this is the case, you
could use Mid() as in the function below which trims a string for
anything else than numerals - you will be able to cut it down and
modify it for your purpose quite easily.

/gustav

<code>

Function TrimNumString( _
  ByVal strNumString As String, _
  Optional ByVal strDecimalChr As String, _
  Optional ByVal booAcceptMinus As Boolean) _
  As String

' Removes any non-numeric character from strNumString including hexadecimal characters.
' If strDecimalChr is specified, first occurrence of this is not removed.
' If booAcceptMinus is True, a leading or trailing minus sign is accepted.
'
' 1999-08-27. Cactus Data ApS, CPH.
' 2001-06-21. Speed optimized for large string (64 K).
' 2003-12-10. intOffset changed to lngOffset.
  
  Const cbytNeg   As Byte = 45  ' "-"
  
  Dim lngPos      As Long
  Dim lngLen      As Long
  Dim lngOffset   As Long
  Dim booDec      As Boolean
  Dim booNeg      As Boolean
  Dim bytChr      As Byte
  Dim bytDec      As Byte
  Dim strNum      As String
  
  strNumString = Trim(strNumString)
  lngLen = Len(strNumString)
  If lngLen > 0 Then
    If Len(strDecimalChr) > 0 Then
      bytDec = Asc(strDecimalChr)
    End If
    ' Create empty result string of maximum possible length.
    strNum = Space(lngLen)
    
    For lngPos = 1 To lngLen
      bytChr = Asc(Mid(strNumString, lngPos, 1))
      Select Case bytChr
        Case 48 To 57
          ' Digit.
        Case bytDec
          ' Decimal point.
          If booDec = False Then
            ' One decimal point only.
            booDec = True
          End If
        Case cbytNeg
          ' Minus sign.
          bytChr = 0
          If booAcceptMinus = True And booNeg = False Then
            If Len(Trim(strNum)) = 0 Or lngPos = lngLen Then
              bytChr = cbytNeg
              ' One minus sign only.
              booNeg = True
            End If
          End If
        Case Else
          ' Ignore any other character.
          bytChr = 0
      End Select
      If bytChr > 0 Then
        ' Append accepted character by inserting it in result string.
        lngOffset = lngOffset + 1
        Mid(strNum, lngOffset) = Chr(bytChr)
      End If
    Next
  End If
  
  ' Trim and return result string.
  TrimNumString = Left(strNum, lngOffset)

End Function

</code>



From actebs at actebs.com.au  Tue Apr 13 08:33:33 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 23:33:33 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Urgent: ADO Recordset from SQL to Access DB
Message-ID: <000201c4215b$ed9c23b0$0b08a8c0@carltonone.local>

Hi Everyone,
 
I am onsite doing some coding for a client and don't have access to a couple
of files/examples at my office. If anyone has some code to connect to an SQL
Server DB via ADO then open the recordset and then append the records to an
Access DB table I would be forever grateful. I have been working on this
project all day (interstate) and this is the last of it, but for the life of
me I can't work out how to set it up...I know I could setup and ODBC
connection, but that's not an elegant solution...
 
Any help will be much appreciated...
 
Regards
Vlad
 
 


From nsaqr at nicholaslane.com  Tue Apr 13 08:35:26 2004
From: nsaqr at nicholaslane.com (Nick Saqr - NLC)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 06:35:26 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT -  Windows CE
In-Reply-To: <000001c4215a$24d8d5a0$6701a8c0@OFFICEXP1>
Message-ID: <NDBBLJGHMLOEGLGFNDJNAECDGPAA.nsaqr@nicholaslane.com>


Check this out - SprintDB PRo. Probably the fastest DB out there, worked
well for me.

http://www.kaione.com/index.html

Nick

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John Skolits
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 6:21 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - Windows CE


Great stuff! That'll get me started. I really appreciate it!

John

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 5:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT - Windows CE


On 13 Apr 2004 at 3:59, John Skolits wrote:

>
> Any advice on doing some basic forms with a backend DB on Windows CE?
>
> I'm not a C programmer but certainly been doing Access/VBA since
> Access came out. Are there any object oriented tools similar to Access
> that I can use to build forms and do VBA type code.
>

A couple of useful links:

http://www.syware.com/newsrev/pr/vcewm03.htm

and

http://www.wirelessdevnet.com/channels/pda/features/ado_ce.html


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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Tue Apr 13 08:50:33 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 09:50:33 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Wierd AccXP memo happenings. SOLVED
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30820669@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB407@ADGSERVER>

Hi Gustav,

Thanks for reminding me of this issue.  I was off work Friday and Monday and
had forgotten to let everyone know that I solved the issue on Thursday,
right as I was leaving for the weekend.

<RedFace ON>

This particular report has six 'tiers' (0-5) on it. And after reviewing the
report, I found that it does not use the Notes (memo) field.  So I modified
the queries to remove the Notes field.  When I then went to run the report,
it gave me the missing field error (it was saying the Notes field was
missing).  I tracked the error to a field that should contain estimated
receipts.  I guess when I had been setting up that last tier, I had
accidentally clicked the Notes field as the data source instead of the
correct field.  DOH!  And since it is rare for the client to have a tier 5
record (and one with a note), no one had caught this error before.

So basically, I screwed up the report.  <Head hung low.>

</RedFace ON>

Thanks to those that looked at this issue with me.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 7:28 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Wierd AccXP memo happenings.


Hi Bobby

1. What happens if you attach the memo content to another record?

2. Try to locate what part of the memo causes the blow. You do that by
cutting it in two, then try with the first and then with the second part;
continue along this road with the part that fails until you have tracked the
malfunctioning part. This may tell you something.

/gustav


> Hi all,

> I have a query that pulls data from several tables.  Been running well 
> for years.  I get a call on Monday that it will not print all the way.  
> So after some researching, I found out that the report was blowing up 
> when it got to a certain page.

> What was happening is that the data from this one table is all of type 
> double.  BUT, for some reason, this one record is returning with the 
> data from a memo field from the same record (not pulled in the query) 
> and is blowing up where I am trying to keep up with some totals.

> I can delete the data out of the memo and the query runs correctly.  I 
> past back the data and it blows up again.  So, I save the memo data in 
> notepad, remove it from the record, compact the database, import it 
> into a new database, then add the data back form notepad, and it blows 
> again!

> Any ideas (short of moving the memo field to its own record) on how to 
> fix this sort of problem?  It runs great on 100+ other database (all 
> back-ends).

> Thanks,
> Bobby

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From jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com  Tue Apr 13 08:54:58 2004
From: jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com (jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 08:54:58 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Urgent: ADO Recordset from SQL to Access DB
Message-ID: <OF52E86547.E151D3FD-ON86256E75.004C36C6-86256E75.004C7154@us.bank-dns.com>


Here is some code.

I use a module that contains my connection information:

Function ODRConnection(myid As String, mypassword As String)
    ODRConnection = "Provider=SQLOLEDB.1;Password=" & mypassword &
";Persist Security Info=True;User ID=" & myid & ";Initial Catalog=" &
GetSEIDatabase & ";Data Source=" & GetSEIServerName
End Function

Now to open the recordset ad append the records:

Dim con As New ADODB.Connection
    Dim rs As New ADODB.Recordset
    Dim cmdtext As String

con = setconnection
    con.Open

    cmdtext = "INSERT INTO tblProviders ("
    cmdtext = cmdtext & " [ProviderName] )"
    cmdtext = cmdtext & " VALUES ("
    cmdtext = cmdtext & " '" & Me.txtCustomerName & "');"

    rs.Open cmdtext, con

    con.Close

set rs = nothing
set con = nothing


                                                                                                                                               
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Hi Everyone,

I am onsite doing some coding for a client and don't have access to a
couple
of files/examples at my office. If anyone has some code to connect to an
SQL
Server DB via ADO then open the recordset and then append the records to an
Access DB table I would be forever grateful. I have been working on this
project all day (interstate) and this is the last of it, but for the life
of
me I can't work out how to set it up...I know I could setup and ODBC
connection, but that's not an elegant solution...

Any help will be much appreciated...

Regards
Vlad


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From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Tue Apr 13 09:01:18 2004
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 15:01:18 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Remove non-alphanumeric characters
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C083@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>

Thanks for that Gustav!

An interesting different approach.

Luckily (for me) my strings are never longer than about 15 characters.

Thanks again!
Chris Foote - UK

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 1:50 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Remove non-alphanumeric characters
> 
> 
> Hi Chris
> 
> > I have a requirement to strip a string of all 
> non-alphanumeric characters.
> > In addition I wanted to change all upper-case characters to 
> lower-case. I
> > could not find any ready-rolled solution so I've come up 
> with the code
> > below.
> 
> > Can anyone think of a more simple way of doing this?
> 
> I don't think so. However, if you are about to handle large strings,
> the appending method will prove very slow. If this is the case, you
> could use Mid() as in the function below which trims a string for
> anything else than numerals - you will be able to cut it down and
> modify it for your purpose quite easily.
> 
> /gustav
> 
> <code>
> 
> Function TrimNumString( _
>   ByVal strNumString As String, _
>   Optional ByVal strDecimalChr As String, _
>   Optional ByVal booAcceptMinus As Boolean) _
>   As String
--------------(snip)-----------


From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Apr 13 09:13:40 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 09:13:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT -  Windows CE
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227AB8@main2.marlow.com>

I know microsoft has an Add-On component for VB, for Windows CE.

Drew

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Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 3:00 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Windows CE



Any advice on doing some basic forms with a backend DB on Windows CE?

I'm not a C programmer but certainly been doing Access/VBA since Access came
out. Are there any object oriented tools similar to Access that I can use to
build forms and do VBA type code.

Any good newsgroups for CE that would help me out?

John Skolits

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From mastercafe at ctv.es  Tue Apr 13 09:20:12 2004
From: mastercafe at ctv.es (MastercafeCTV)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 16:20:12 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Ownership
In-Reply-To: <F37DAC9A2964B144A2973EBCA8C54DBDABD3B9@BURY2K23.bury.gov.uk>
Message-ID: <000f01c42162$6f2eb4a0$0300a8c0@masterserver>

Hi Richard,

I don't know if ECC law are the same for this, but the intelectual property
in Spain said that you can develope any tool in any languaje for your client
and the main source code and final application rights are for they (client)
but you can use this code or application to sell to another client.

Inly when you make a contract in the beginning you can put your basis for
this. We make always a contract with our clients how take the main source
code, except an MDE module with all standar functions of us that they need
pay for this use. With this solution you always protect your work for
another developers in the future, and can put open source to your client.

Hope this notes can help you


Juan Menendez


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Griffiths,
Richard
Sent: martes, 13 de abril de 2004 15:00
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Ownership


Hi

 

Appear to be getting requests for consultancy work - ie writing
small/medium Access/VB systems.   Does anyone know the ownership
situation for the UK. Can they (my clients) sell on any system I write? Can
they demand the source code from me? Or do I have exclusive rights to the
code and sell on?

 

Thanks in advance

 

Richard

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Apr 13 09:54:18 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 07:54:18 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Get data from Word Doc - A2K
In-Reply-To: <FKEBJOENDDBJHLINGOBHOEICFFAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIKEKGCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Reuben:

Could the document be saved as a text file and then processed through
Access?

HTH
Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Reuben
Cummings
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 2:40 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Get data from Word Doc - A2K


I have a 393 page Word document that has data about bridges.  Every 3 pages
is one bridge meaning every third page is formatted exactly alike (Page 1
and Page 4 are alike, Page 2 and Page 5, Page 3 and 6).   There are about 10
pieces of data I would like to extract about every bridge, a little bit on
each of the three pages.

Is it possible to scan thru this document somehow and 'extract' these 10
items from it to Access?

I have tried to copy the document to Excel, but a lot of the text from Word
will end up in one cell rather than split into a cell of its own.

Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com



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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 13 09:36:23 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 16:36:23 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Remove non-alphanumeric characters
In-Reply-To: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C083@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>
References: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C083@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>
Message-ID: <7926157472.20040413163623@cactus.dk>

Hi Chris

> Luckily (for me) my strings are never longer than about 15 characters.

OK. Then I would go ahead with your original suggestion.

/gustav



From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 13 10:21:00 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 17:21:00 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions
In-Reply-To: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE4F2@TAPPEEXCH01>
References: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE4F2@TAPPEEXCH01>
Message-ID: <10628834041.20040413172100@cactus.dk>

Hi Brett

Don't know what you are about to do, but have you had a look at the
empower program for ISVs:

  http://members.microsoft.com/partner/isv/empower/default.aspx

/gustav


> I recall a discussion a while back about discount sources for MSDN
> subscriptions.  We are looking to purchase 5 subscriptions, either
> Enterprise or possibly Universal depending on the pricing.  
 
> I found the Universal box here for $1135 (with an additional $300 DVD media
> discount!):
> http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696
> <http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696> 
 
> Can anyone top this?

> Brett Barabash, MCP 
> Tappe Construction, Co. 
> Eagan, MN 
> bbarabash at tappeconstruction.com 
> (651) 256-6831 



From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Tue Apr 13 10:39:17 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 10:39:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions
Message-ID: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE4FB@TAPPEEXCH01>

I have heard of this before (Joel Spolsky discussed it on his website)
Great program, except we are not an independent software vendor (ISV).  To
be eligible for this program, we need to do the following:

- Within 18 months of initial membership activation (within 6 months from
renewal), members must publicly announce the new packaged software
application on their own official website. 

- Within 24 months of initial membership activation (within 12 months from
renewal), members must release the new packaged software application to the
targeted marketplace. 

Now, if I could convince management to allow me to sell my creations...

Brett Barabash, MCP 
Tappe Construction, Co. 
Eagan, MN 
bbarabash at tappeconstruction.com 
(651) 256-6831 

"One thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a
cardboard box and sit in a warehouse."  -Jack Handey


-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 10:21 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions

Hi Brett

Don't know what you are about to do, but have you had a look at the
empower program for ISVs:

  http://members.microsoft.com/partner/isv/empower/default.aspx

/gustav


> I recall a discussion a while back about discount sources for MSDN
> subscriptions.  We are looking to purchase 5 subscriptions, either
> Enterprise or possibly Universal depending on the pricing.  
 
> I found the Universal box here for $1135 (with an additional $300 DVD
media
> discount!):
> http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696
> <http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696> 
 
> Can anyone top this?

> Brett Barabash, MCP 
> Tappe Construction, Co. 
> Eagan, MN 
> bbarabash at tappeconstruction.com 
> (651) 256-6831 


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From actebs at actebs.com.au  Tue Apr 13 11:56:48 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 02:56:48 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Urgent: ADO Recordset from SQL to Access DB - Solved
In-Reply-To: <OF52E86547.E151D3FD-ON86256E75.004C36C6-86256E75.004C7154@us.bank-dns.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c42178$529a90f0$0b08a8c0@carltonone.local>

Jeff,

Thanks you're a lifesaver...

Vlad

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jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com
Sent: Tuesday, 13 April 2004 11:55 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Urgent: ADO Recordset from SQL to Access DB



Here is some code.

I use a module that contains my connection information:

Function ODRConnection(myid As String, mypassword As String)
    ODRConnection = "Provider=SQLOLEDB.1;Password=" & mypassword & ";Persist
Security Info=True;User ID=" & myid & ";Initial Catalog=" & GetSEIDatabase &
";Data Source=" & GetSEIServerName End Function

Now to open the recordset ad append the records:

Dim con As New ADODB.Connection
    Dim rs As New ADODB.Recordset
    Dim cmdtext As String

con = setconnection
    con.Open

    cmdtext = "INSERT INTO tblProviders ("
    cmdtext = cmdtext & " [ProviderName] )"
    cmdtext = cmdtext & " VALUES ("
    cmdtext = cmdtext & " '" & Me.txtCustomerName & "');"

    rs.Open cmdtext, con

    con.Close

set rs = nothing
set con = nothing


 

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                      04/13/2004 08:33 AM

                      Please respond to "Access

                      Developers discussion and

                      problem solving"

 

 





Hi Everyone,

I am onsite doing some coding for a client and don't have access to a couple
of files/examples at my office. If anyone has some code to connect to an SQL
Server DB via ADO then open the recordset and then append the records to an
Access DB table I would be forever grateful. I have been working on this
project all day (interstate) and this is the last of it, but for the life of
me I can't work out how to set it up...I know I could setup and ODBC
connection, but that's not an elegant solution...

Any help will be much appreciated...

Regards
Vlad


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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Tue Apr 13 13:17:16 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 13:17:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Ownership
In-Reply-To: <200404131700.i3DH0LB16022@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040413131409.02a0b8e0@pop3.highstream.net>

Richard,

It depends on the contract.  If you are contracting to produce a specific 
program with source, the you can word the contract so that you retain the 
copyright, but they have rights to modify the source and cannot sell it 
outside of their company.  Or, that they own the copyright at the end of 
teh contract and can do whatever they want with it.  Generally, if you are 
working by the hour, they own it.  But, again, you can word the contract 
however you want to between you and the customer.

Robert

At 12:00 PM 4/13/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 13:59:43 +0100
>From: "Griffiths, Richard" <R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk>
>Subject: [AccessD] Ownership
>To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID:
>         <F37DAC9A2964B144A2973EBCA8C54DBDABD3B9 at BURY2K23.bury.gov.uk>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>Hi
>
>
>
>Appear to be getting requests for consultancy work - ie writing
>small/medium Access/VB systems.   Does anyone know the ownership
>situation for the UK. Can they (my clients) sell on any system I write?
>Can they demand the source code from me? Or do I have exclusive rights
>to the code and sell on?
>
>
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>
>
>Richard




From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 13 13:24:35 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 20:24:35 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions
In-Reply-To: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE4FB@TAPPEEXCH01>
References: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE4FB@TAPPEEXCH01>
Message-ID: <1139849210.20040413202435@cactus.dk>

Hi Brett

But what happens if you "fail" other than you may have postponed your
purchase 24 months?

/gustav


> I have heard of this before (Joel Spolsky discussed it on his website)
> Great program, except we are not an independent software vendor (ISV).  To
> be eligible for this program, we need to do the following:

> - Within 18 months of initial membership activation (within 6 months from
> renewal), members must publicly announce the new packaged software
> application on their own official website. 

> - Within 24 months of initial membership activation (within 12 months from
> renewal), members must release the new packaged software application to the
> targeted marketplace. 

> Now, if I could convince management to allow me to sell my creations...

> Brett Barabash, MCP 
> Tappe Construction, Co. 
> Eagan, MN 
> bbarabash at tappeconstruction.com 
> (651) 256-6831 

> "One thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a
> cardboard box and sit in a warehouse."  -Jack Handey


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 10:21 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT - MSDN Subscriptions

> Hi Brett

> Don't know what you are about to do, but have you had a look at the
> empower program for ISVs:

>   http://members.microsoft.com/partner/isv/empower/default.aspx

> /gustav


>> I recall a discussion a while back about discount sources for MSDN
>> subscriptions.  We are looking to purchase 5 subscriptions, either
>> Enterprise or possibly Universal depending on the pricing.  
 
>> I found the Universal box here for $1135 (with an additional $300 DVD media
>> discount!):
>> http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696
>> <http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/details.asp?productID=696> 



From jskolits at CorporateDataDesign.com  Tue Apr 13 14:05:48 2004
From: jskolits at CorporateDataDesign.com (John Skolits)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 15:05:48 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT -  Windows CE (Demise of PDAs)
In-Reply-To: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227AB8@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <000b01c4218a$552c8140$6701a8c0@OFFICEXP1>

Thanks all for the links.

While researching, came across an article about the decline of PDA's. Makes
me think a bit before delving into a new technology/programming language.

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~33~2077837,00.html

John


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Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 10:14 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - Windows CE


I know microsoft has an Add-On component for VB, for Windows CE.

Drew

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 3:00 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Windows CE



Any advice on doing some basic forms with a backend DB on Windows CE?

I'm not a C programmer but certainly been doing Access/VBA since Access came
out. Are there any object oriented tools similar to Access that I can use to
build forms and do VBA type code.

Any good newsgroups for CE that would help me out?

John Skolits

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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Apr 13 14:11:10 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 20:11:10 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Ownership
In-Reply-To: <F37DAC9A2964B144A2973EBCA8C54DBDABD3B9@BURY2K23.bury.gov.uk>
Message-ID: <000001c4218b$1524a3b0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Hi Richard
It has always been my understanding that, unless a contract states
otherwise, the source code belongs to the developer. Having said that,
however, it has equally always been my stance that if I'm being paid to
develop something then ethically what I develop specifically for the client
is 100% theirs. But the key word is 'specifically'. Most of us have an awful
lot of code in our lockers that we'll bring out in any development. The
client needs to understand this and needs to see that he gets the benefit
because he doesn't pay for that stuff. It may be this that gives us our
marketing edge when we go into bat for the work.

The question really comes down to 'why do you ask?'. Do I sense that you
smell some sell-on potential? Be careful, it rarely happens. And certainly
NEVER discount what you do based on the promise of future sales. But I
digress. The important thing is that you want a happy customer and they
probably want a happy supplier - or at least a productive one. So if you
feel you should, or the customer forces the issue, then discuss it, but
amicably. Explain that what they'll get is part theirs and part yours (if it
is, and if you agree with me) and that they'll therefore own part of it. But
in practise if they want to sell it on they'll need you along anyway for
support etc, and if you want to sell it on you'll need them along as a
(probably the only) reference site. So, like most things, it comes down to
discussion, agreement, compromise and that sort of thing. Just reach an
arrangement that suits both of you.

IME most customers don't think to ask, and I don't raise it. It's not that I
intend to do them down - if they raise it months or years down the line I'll
still give the same response - it's just that getting contracts off the
ground is tricky enough without introducing complications the customer
hasn't even thought about. Just get the work, do a great job, make the
customer happy, and the chances are it'll never be an issue.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Griffiths, Richard
> Sent: 13 April 2004 14:00
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Ownership
> 
> 
> Hi
> 
>  
> 
> Appear to be getting requests for consultancy work - ie writing
> small/medium Access/VB systems.   Does anyone know the ownership
> situation for the UK. Can they (my clients) sell on any 
> system I write? Can they demand the source code from me? Or 
> do I have exclusive rights to the code and sell on?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
>  
> 
> Richard
> 



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 13 14:33:55 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 15:33:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Ownership
In-Reply-To: <000001c4218b$1524a3b0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>
Message-ID: <20040413193353.GYEC23778.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

There's nothing wrong with stipulating in the contract that the product is
for the purchaser's use and not for resell by the purchaser -- I always had
that. They don't ask -- they're not interested in reselling, but just in
case... 

Susan H. 

The question really comes down to 'why do you ask?'. Do I sense that you
smell some sell-on potential? Be careful, it rarely happens. And certainly
NEVER discount what you do based on the promise of future sales. But I
digress. The important thing is that you want a happy 



From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Apr 13 15:29:40 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 15:29:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT -  Windows CE (Demise of PDAs)
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227ABB@main2.marlow.com>

Interesting article.  However, there are mobile phones which are coming with
Windows CE, so it's a skill that will still be handy even with the new
trend.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John Skolits
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 2:06 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - Windows CE (Demise of PDAs)


Thanks all for the links.

While researching, came across an article about the decline of PDA's. Makes
me think a bit before delving into a new technology/programming language.

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~33~2077837,00.html

John


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 10:14 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - Windows CE


I know microsoft has an Add-On component for VB, for Windows CE.

Drew

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Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 3:00 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Windows CE



Any advice on doing some basic forms with a backend DB on Windows CE?

I'm not a C programmer but certainly been doing Access/VBA since Access came
out. Are there any object oriented tools similar to Access that I can use to
build forms and do VBA type code.

Any good newsgroups for CE that would help me out?

John Skolits

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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Tue Apr 13 17:42:54 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 08:42:54 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
References: <40706F3F.16231.9E7B12@localhost><01c501c41aad$5502fca0$48619a89@DDICK>
	<11019402659.20040412160445@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <003701c421a8$a979a340$48619a89@DDICK>

Thanks Gustav et al
I will use this method in the future
many thanks
Darren
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 12:04 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record


> Hi Darren
> 
> > Hi Bryan
> > I did that no joy eg.
> 
> That is because your expression will never be True as
> 
>   Me.cmbOffence = ""
> 
> will be Null if Me.cmbOffence is Null, and then
> 
>   IsNull(Me.cmbOffence) Or Null
> 
> will return Null as well.
> 
> The fastest method is:
> 
>   If Len(Me.cmbOffence & vbNullString) = 0
> 
> but mostly I prefer to use Nz():
> 
>   If Len(Nz(Me.cmbOffence, vbNullString)) = 0
> 
> As Stuart mentions, you may omit the last part, but you must be sure
> that the value tested is either Null or a string (which is the case
> here as I guess cmbOffence is a combobox):
> 
>   If Len(Nz(Me.cmbOffence.Value)) = 0
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 
> > Private Sub Form_BeforeUpdate(Cancel As Integer)
> 
> > If IsNull(Me.cmbOffence) Or Me.cmbOffence = "" Then
> >     MsgBox "Enter an offence"
> >     Cancel = True
> > End If
> 
> > End Sub
> 
> > What I need to do is somehow test if the user is on a new fresh record or has left th previous record with unfilled combos. Of
> > course I can do it on the lost and got focus event.Thats fine whilst I am in the record
> > EG record 5 has no offence recorded
> > User goes to record 6 How do i alert the user that record 5 has a missing value then go back to that record?
> 
> 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at sympatico.ca>
> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problemsolving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 10:25 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Stop User from oving to new record
> 
> 
> >> On 5 Apr 2004 at 10:08, Darren DICK wrote:
> >>
> >> >  I have a simple subform with 4 fields on it
> >> > ID (PK),  txtDateOfOccurence, cboClientName, cboOffence
> >> >
> >> > How can I tell if the user goes to a new record and they have not
> >> > completed ALL fields in the previous record How do I alert them and
> >> > then direct them back to the previous record?
> >>
> >> Use the before update event of the form. Check to make sure they
> >> entered a vale and if not set Cancel = true in the event. That should
> >> prevent the record from being saved and keep the sub form on the
> >> "unfinished" record
> 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 13 18:20:54 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 09:20:54 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Ownership
In-Reply-To: <000001c4218b$1524a3b0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>
References: <F37DAC9A2964B144A2973EBCA8C54DBDABD3B9@BURY2K23.bury.gov.uk>
Message-ID: <407D0276.1957.32EE83@localhost>

On 13 Apr 2004 at 20:11, Andy Lacey wrote:

> Hi Richard
> It has always been my understanding that, unless a contract states
> otherwise, the source code belongs to the developer. 

I don't know about the UK, but in many situations, it is much more 
complicated than that.

>Having said that,
> however, it has equally always been my stance that if I'm being paid to
> develop something then ethically what I develop specifically for the client
> is 100% theirs. But the key word is 'specifically'. Most of us have an awful
> lot of code in our lockers that we'll bring out in any development. 

In reality, *everyone* capable of developing a marketable solution does this.

>The
> client needs to understand this and needs to see that he gets the benefit
> because he doesn't pay for that stuff. It may be this that gives us our
> marketing edge when we go into bat for the work.
> 

My standard "proposal" template says:

"The application will have been developed by Lexacorp for your use, 
but the developed application will incorporate code fragments and 
ideas that have previously been developed by Lexacorp and all 
intellectual property rights to the application remains the property 
of Lexacorp.  

You will receive a copy of the source code for the application and 
will be granted a non-exclusive licence to use such source code for 
maintenance and future development of the said application for your 
own use in such manner as you see fit. 
....
You may not sell or otherwise dispose of the said source code, or any 
application developed utilising all or part of it to any third party 
without the express agreement of  Lexacorp. "  



 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 13 18:44:02 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 09:44:02 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT -  Windows CE (Demise of PDAs)
In-Reply-To: <000b01c4218a$552c8140$6701a8c0@OFFICEXP1>
References: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227AB8@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <407D07E2.32006.4819F2@localhost>

On 13 Apr 2004 at 15:05, John Skolits wrote:

> Thanks all for the links.
> 
> While researching, came across an article about the decline of PDA's. Makes
> me think a bit before delving into a new technology/programming language.
> 
> http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~33~2077837,00.html
> 
The  "mobile devices" mentioned in the article  as *replacements* for 
the PDA are really just PDAs with more features. They all use the 
same "new technology/programming language".   

(Is a Treo a phone with PDA functions or a PDA with phone functions?)

Then there is the continuing growth in smart data capture equipment, 
GPS integrated devices etc 

Take a look at the number of different such devices now using Palm OS 
or Windows CE.







 
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Support.





From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Tue Apr 13 22:01:32 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 13:01:32 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Adding the word ALL to a combo
Message-ID: <01c101c421cc$cadf66e0$48619a89@DDICK>

Hello all
I need to add the word <ALL> to a combo
SO pseudo  = select * from MyTable and Then add "<ALL>"

I have done this before through assistance from this list but I can't find the Gem
or remember the dB I did it on :-(( 

Any suggestions?

Many thanks

Darren



From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Apr 13 22:10:22 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 22:10:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Adding the word ALL to a combo
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227ABF@main2.marlow.com>

SELECT "ALL" As AField
FROM MyTable

UNION SELECT MyField
FROM MyTable

Drew

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 10:02 PM
To: AccessD List
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Adding the word ALL to a combo


Hello all
I need to add the word <ALL> to a combo
SO pseudo  = select * from MyTable and Then add "<ALL>"

I have done this before through assistance from this list but I can't find
the Gem
or remember the dB I did it on :-(( 

Any suggestions?

Many thanks

Darren

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Apr 13 22:35:44 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 20:35:44 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Adding the word ALL to a combo
In-Reply-To: <01c101c421cc$cadf66e0$48619a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIEEKKCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Darren:

The only way I know to add 'all' to a combo/list box is through a recorsdset
that I supply myself. The gem piece came from an example code segment
supplied in Access97 help files. I can not remember what the request was
that found it but I have used a variation on that theme for years. Below is
the base piece; I just cut and pasted it from one application I have just
finished.

The call to this function is made from the list/combo boxes by placing the
functions name in the 'Row Source Type' property i.e. : FillFunctionCode

And a sample of the function:

Public Function FillFunctionCode(ctlBox As Control, ID As Variant, row As
Variant, col As Variant, Code As Variant) As Variant
    Dim bolDBStatus As Boolean
    Dim mvReturnVal As Variant

    On Error GoTo Err_FillFunctionCode

    bolDBStatus = True
    If rsFunctionCode Is Nothing Then bolDBStatus =
FillRecordsetFunctionCode()

    mvReturnVal = Null

    If bolDBStatus = True Then
        With rsFunctionCode
            Select Case Code
                Case acLBInitialize                 ' Initialize.
                    bolStatus = True

                    If .BOF = False Or .EOF = False Then
                        .MoveFirst
                        mvReturnVal = .RecordCount
                    Else
                        mvReturnVal = 0
                    End If
                Case acLBOpen                       ' Open.
                    mvReturnVal = Timer             ' Generate unique ID for
control.
                Case acLBGetRowCount                ' Get number of rows.
                    mvReturnVal = .RecordCount
                Case acLBGetColumnCount             ' Get number of columns.
                    mvReturnVal = ctlBox.ColumnCount
                Case acLBGetColumnWidth             ' Column width.
                    mvReturnVal = -1                ' -1 forces use of
default width.
                Case acLBGetFormat                  ' Get format
                    mvReturnVal = -1
                Case acLBGetValue                   ' Get data.
                    .MoveFirst
                    .Move (row)
                    mvReturnVal = .Fields(col)
            End Select
        End With
    End If

    FillFunctionCode = mvReturnVal

Exit_FillFunctionCode:
    Exit Function

Err_FillFunctionCode:
    'Handles error situation caused an apparent unrelated error(s)
    'generated in other modules. (It loses its brains...)
    If Err.Number = 3167 Then
        rsFunctionCode.Requery
    ElseIf Err.Number = 3704 Or Err.Number = -2147467259 Then
        Resume Exit_FillFunctionCode
    ElseIf Err.Number <> 91 Then
        ShowErrMsg "FillFunctionCode"
    End If
    Resume Exit_FillFunctionCode

End Function

There still needs to be a piece of code that fills the recordset, in this
case a recordset named 'rsFunctionCode'. In the recordset creating routine
is where 'All' would be added. If you need I can send the code that
populates the recordset but there are so many ways to do that.

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren DICK
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 8:02 PM
To: AccessD List
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Adding the word ALL to a combo


Hello all
I need to add the word <ALL> to a combo
SO pseudo  = select * from MyTable and Then add "<ALL>"

I have done this before through assistance from this list but I can't find
the Gem
or remember the dB I did it on :-((

Any suggestions?

Many thanks

Darren

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From rbgajewski at adelphia.net  Tue Apr 13 22:33:35 2004
From: rbgajewski at adelphia.net (Bob Gajewski)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 23:33:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Adding the word ALL to a combo
In-Reply-To: <01c101c421cc$cadf66e0$48619a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <LHEEKEKNLFONONKPIOCJEEKLGDAA.rbgajewski@adelphia.net>

Darren:

Here's one example:

SELECT [tblStates].[txtStateCode], [tblStates].[txtStateName] FROM tblStates
UNION Select "<ALL>" As AllChoice FROM tblStates
ORDER BY [tblStates].[txtStateName];

Regards,
Bob Gajewski


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren DICK
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 23:02
To: AccessD List
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Adding the word ALL to a combo


Hello all
I need to add the word <ALL> to a combo
SO pseudo  = select * from MyTable and Then add "<ALL>"

I have done this before through assistance from this list but I can't find
the Gem
or remember the dB I did it on :-((

Any suggestions?

Many thanks

Darren

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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Tue Apr 13 22:57:39 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 13:57:39 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Adding the word ALL to a combo
References: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227ABF@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <01fc01c421d4$a17fd7f0$48619a89@DDICK>

Howdy
Thanks for the reply
Excellent
DD
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To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 1:10 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K:Adding the word ALL to a combo


> SELECT "ALL" As AField
> FROM MyTable
> 
> UNION SELECT MyField
> FROM MyTable
> 
> Drew
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren DICK
> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 10:02 PM
> To: AccessD List
> Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Adding the word ALL to a combo
> 
> 
> Hello all
> I need to add the word <ALL> to a combo
> SO pseudo  = select * from MyTable and Then add "<ALL>"
> 
> I have done this before through assistance from this list but I can't find
> the Gem
> or remember the dB I did it on :-(( 
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Darren
> 
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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Tue Apr 13 23:08:00 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 14:08:00 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Adding the word ALL to a combo - SOLVED
References: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIEEKKCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <022d01c421d6$13918b80$48619a89@DDICK>

Thanks to all who responded
I went with Drew's suggestion
'Cause he was first :-))
Many thanks

Darren

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Lawrence (AccessD)" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 1:35 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K:Adding the word ALL to a combo


> Hi Darren:
> 
> The only way I know to add 'all' to a combo/list box is through a recorsdset
> that I supply myself. The gem piece came from an example code segment
> supplied in Access97 help files. I can not remember what the request was
> that found it but I have used a variation on that theme for years. Below is
> the base piece; I just cut and pasted it from one application I have just
> finished.
> 
> The call to this function is made from the list/combo boxes by placing the
> functions name in the 'Row Source Type' property i.e. : FillFunctionCode
> 
> And a sample of the function:
> 
> Public Function FillFunctionCode(ctlBox As Control, ID As Variant, row As
> Variant, col As Variant, Code As Variant) As Variant
>     Dim bolDBStatus As Boolean
>     Dim mvReturnVal As Variant
> 
>     On Error GoTo Err_FillFunctionCode
> 
>     bolDBStatus = True
>     If rsFunctionCode Is Nothing Then bolDBStatus =
> FillRecordsetFunctionCode()
> 
>     mvReturnVal = Null
> 
>     If bolDBStatus = True Then
>         With rsFunctionCode
>             Select Case Code
>                 Case acLBInitialize                 ' Initialize.
>                     bolStatus = True
> 
>                     If .BOF = False Or .EOF = False Then
>                         .MoveFirst
>                         mvReturnVal = .RecordCount
>                     Else
>                         mvReturnVal = 0
>                     End If
>                 Case acLBOpen                       ' Open.
>                     mvReturnVal = Timer             ' Generate unique ID for
> control.
>                 Case acLBGetRowCount                ' Get number of rows.
>                     mvReturnVal = .RecordCount
>                 Case acLBGetColumnCount             ' Get number of columns.
>                     mvReturnVal = ctlBox.ColumnCount
>                 Case acLBGetColumnWidth             ' Column width.
>                     mvReturnVal = -1                ' -1 forces use of
> default width.
>                 Case acLBGetFormat                  ' Get format
>                     mvReturnVal = -1
>                 Case acLBGetValue                   ' Get data.
>                     .MoveFirst
>                     .Move (row)
>                     mvReturnVal = .Fields(col)
>             End Select
>         End With
>     End If
> 
>     FillFunctionCode = mvReturnVal
> 
> Exit_FillFunctionCode:
>     Exit Function
> 
> Err_FillFunctionCode:
>     'Handles error situation caused an apparent unrelated error(s)
>     'generated in other modules. (It loses its brains...)
>     If Err.Number = 3167 Then
>         rsFunctionCode.Requery
>     ElseIf Err.Number = 3704 Or Err.Number = -2147467259 Then
>         Resume Exit_FillFunctionCode
>     ElseIf Err.Number <> 91 Then
>         ShowErrMsg "FillFunctionCode"
>     End If
>     Resume Exit_FillFunctionCode
> 
> End Function
> 
> There still needs to be a piece of code that fills the recordset, in this
> case a recordset named 'rsFunctionCode'. In the recordset creating routine
> is where 'All' would be added. If you need I can send the code that
> populates the recordset but there are so many ways to do that.
> 
> HTH
> Jim
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren DICK
> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 8:02 PM
> To: AccessD List
> Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Adding the word ALL to a combo
> 
> 
> Hello all
> I need to add the word <ALL> to a combo
> SO pseudo  = select * from MyTable and Then add "<ALL>"
> 
> I have done this before through assistance from this list but I can't find
> the Gem
> or remember the dB I did it on :-((
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Darren
> 
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 14 03:50:51 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 10:50:51 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Adding the word ALL to a combo - SOLVED
In-Reply-To: <022d01c421d6$13918b80$48619a89@DDICK>
References: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIEEKKCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>
	<022d01c421d6$13918b80$48619a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <1336886412.20040414105051@cactus.dk>

Hi Darren

> Thanks to all who responded
> I went with Drew's suggestion
> 'Cause he was first :-))

Yeah, but I guess you did adjust it to use "<ALL>", because "ALL"
could be sorted within your recordset. Thus, if you have Alice and
Susan, your combo would list:

     Alice
     ALL
     Susan

/gustav

> SELECT "ALL" As AField
> FROM MyTable
>
> UNION SELECT MyField
> FROM MyTable



From Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com  Wed Apr 14 10:39:36 2004
From: Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com (Jeff Barrows)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 10:39:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Convert Case to Upper Case
Message-ID: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE6305003266E@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com>

Hello Group,
 
Does anyone have a technique for updating data in tables to ALL be upper case?
 
Jeff Barrows


From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 14 10:58:02 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 17:58:02 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Convert Case to Upper Case
In-Reply-To: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE6305003266E@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com>
References: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE6305003266E@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com>
Message-ID: <9332517157.20040414175802@cactus.dk>

Hi Jeff

An update query ... or do you have special needs?

/gustav

> Does anyone have a technique for updating data in tables to ALL be upper case?



From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Apr 14 11:02:20 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 12:02:20 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Convert Case to Upper Case
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA308209CE@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB414@ADGSERVER>

You can use the format function in a query with a format string of ">".

Bobby

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To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Convert Case to Upper Case


Hello Group,
 
Does anyone have a technique for updating data in tables to ALL be upper
case?
 
Jeff Barrows
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 14 11:27:04 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 18:27:04 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] A97 - 2003 conversion
In-Reply-To: <15440940699.20040225202312@cactus.dk>
References: <BAY2-F33PpBpcXCXWtj00006f2e@hotmail.com>
	<15440940699.20040225202312@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <5634259482.20040414182704@cactus.dk>

Hi all

Helen has added part two - this time on Personal Digital Certificates
- but now a part three is announced.

The filename has not changed.

/gustav


> You should look up Helen's article (part one only, part two to
> follow!) 

>   http://www.helenfeddema.com/access.htm

> on this topic: accarch119.zip



From Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us  Wed Apr 14 11:27:14 2004
From: Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us (O'Connor, Patricia  )
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 12:27:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Convert Case to Upper Case
Message-ID: <B94C79B465542042AB0748EAF37F9AC006D512@EXCNYSM0A1AB.nysemail.nyenet>

Update query using UPPER([fieldname])
HTH
 
Patti
*************************************************************
* Patricia E. O'Connor
* Associate Computer Programmer/Analyst
* OTDA - BDMA
* (W) mailto:Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us
* (W) mailto:aa1160 at dfa.state.ny.us
***********************************************************
 

From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 14 11:46:55 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 18:46:55 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 Digital Certificate
In-Reply-To: <5634259482.20040414182704@cactus.dk>
References: <BAY2-F33PpBpcXCXWtj00006f2e@hotmail.com>
	<15440940699.20040225202312@cactus.dk>
	<5634259482.20040414182704@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <1335450164.20040414184655@cactus.dk>

Hi all

And from Gary Robinson I just received a link for this month's open
article "Signing Access 2003 Projects":

  http://www.pinpub.com/html/main.isx?sub=62&story=2693

Basically, applying a digital certificate to your code encrypts it for
editing but not for execution.

/gustav

> Helen has added part two - this time on Personal Digital Certificates
> - but now a part three is announced.

> The filename has not changed.

> /gustav


>> You should look up Helen's article (part one only, part two to
>> follow!) 

>>   http://www.helenfeddema.com/access.htm

>> on this topic: accarch119.zip



From Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com  Wed Apr 14 12:00:54 2004
From: Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com (Jeff Barrows)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 12:00:54 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Convert Case to Upper Case
Message-ID: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE6305003266F@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com>

Thanks for the help!  This Should work just fine!!

	-----Original Message----- 
	From: O'Connor, Patricia [mailto:Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us] 
	Sent: Wed 4/14/2004 11:27 AM 
	To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
	Cc: 
	Subject: RE: [AccessD] Convert Case to Upper Case
	
	

	Update query using UPPER([fieldname])
	HTH
	
	Patti
	*************************************************************
	* Patricia E. O'Connor
	* Associate Computer Programmer/Analyst
	* OTDA - BDMA
	* (W) mailto:Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us
	* (W) mailto:aa1160 at dfa.state.ny.us
	***********************************************************
	
	


From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 14 12:16:52 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 19:16:52 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Convert Case to Upper Case
In-Reply-To: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE6305003266F@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com>
References: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE6305003266F@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com>
Message-ID: <13037247018.20040414191652@cactus.dk>

Hi Jeff

> Thanks for the help!  This Should work just fine!!

Not in Jet SQL. That would be UCase().

/gustav


>         Update query using UPPER([fieldname])



From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 14 12:45:51 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 19:45:51 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
In-Reply-To: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB4C@nnse14.nns.com>
References: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB4C@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <1338986209.20040414194551@cactus.dk>

Hi Mark

> I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder permissions) to
> only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
> database for general use that needs to link to a table in that restricted
> database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the minimum necessary
> to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any modifications
> to the data?

I don't think you can do this as you for the new user group would need
to have two levels of permissions: read-only for the data file, and -
as for the first group - create-read-write (or better:
create-read-write-erase) for the the locking file (.ldb).

This article covers your initial scenario but not your requested
scenario, "Restrict The People Who Can Use Your Database Folder":

  http://www.vb123.com/toolshed/04_docs/accessdb_op_security.htm

However - as William will know - if you really need this setup, go and
get a Novell NetWare server. Here you can control user permissions
down to the single file; this scenario could be created in two
minutes. 

/gustav



From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 14 14:14:15 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 21:14:15 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: US/UK public holidays
Message-ID: <591136444.20040414211415@cactus.dk>

Hi all

What is the meaning of the column "Day Observed" here:

  http://www.usembassy.org.uk/ukpubhol.html

Look for example at the second and third last entry.

/gustav



From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Wed Apr 14 14:18:13 2004
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 20:18:13 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: US/UK public holidays
References: <591136444.20040414211415@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <001e01c42255$3e5ec7e0$1b02a8c0@MARTINREID>

Dont know but maybe its the day they take instead of the official holiday
for example if it falls on a weekend.

Martin



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 8:14 PM
Subject: [AccessD] OT: US/UK public holidays


> Hi all
>
> What is the meaning of the column "Day Observed" here:
>
>   http://www.usembassy.org.uk/ukpubhol.html
>
> Look for example at the second and third last entry.
>
> /gustav
>
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From jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com  Wed Apr 14 14:21:40 2004
From: jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com (jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 14:21:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: US/UK public holidays
Message-ID: <OF47DC9A3F.2E6CAF15-ON86256E76.006A39F0-86256E76.006A5A31@us.bank-dns.com>


It is the day that the Embassy will actually close for the holiday.  The
best example is Christamas.  It falls on a Saturday but the Embassy will
close on Friday.


                                                                                                                                               
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Hi all

What is the meaning of the column "Day Observed" here:

  http://www.usembassy.org.uk/ukpubhol.html

Look for example at the second and third last entry.

/gustav

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From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Wed Apr 14 16:38:46 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 17:38:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher
References: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB4C@nnse14.nns.com>
	<1338986209.20040414194551@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <00c301c42268$de1619b0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...William knows nnnooottthhhinnnggg! ...just ask JC ...he'll confirm that
:)

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Permissions Refresher


> Hi Mark
>
> > I have a database that is currently restricted (by folder permissions)
to
> > only a few individual persons.  I am now in the process of creating a
> > database for general use that needs to link to a table in that
restricted
> > database.  Out of the following permissions, what is the minimum
necessary
> > to allow a user to execute select queries, but not allow any
modifications
> > to the data?
>
> I don't think you can do this as you for the new user group would need
> to have two levels of permissions: read-only for the data file, and -
> as for the first group - create-read-write (or better:
> create-read-write-erase) for the the locking file (.ldb).
>
> This article covers your initial scenario but not your requested
> scenario, "Restrict The People Who Can Use Your Database Folder":
>
>   http://www.vb123.com/toolshed/04_docs/accessdb_op_security.htm
>
> However - as William will know - if you really need this setup, go and
> get a Novell NetWare server. Here you can control user permissions
> down to the single file; this scenario could be created in two
> minutes.
>
> /gustav
>
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>




From DaveSharpe2 at cox.net  Wed Apr 14 16:54:37 2004
From: DaveSharpe2 at cox.net (Dave Sharpe)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 17:54:37 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: US/UK public holidays
References: <591136444.20040414211415@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <008401c4226b$14b4ba10$dd2f0a44@bcsrkeext6137>

gustav

As an example
"Public Holiday" "Date"                    "Day Observed"
"Presidents Day" "3rd Monday in February"  "Monday, February 16, 2004"

Date is how the holiday is "defined", "described" or "determined"
and for many ovservance varies year to year.


Date Observed id is for 2004 the calendar day on which it falls.

If You're incorporating into something, I think that You might
need provide the Date Observed for some range of years such as
1900 to 2100. Such data is probably available somewhere on the
web.

Excel does this for it's function WORKDAY(start_date,days,holidays) forcing
the user to provide their own list.

Start_date   is a date that represents the start date. Dates may be entered
as text strings within quotation marks (for example, "1/30/1998" or
"1998/01/30"), as serial numbers (for example, 35825, which represents
January 30, 1998, if you're using the 1900 date system), or as results of
other formulas or functions (for example, DATEVALUE("1/30/1998"))

Days   is the number of nonweekend and nonholiday days before or after
start_date. A positive value for days yields a future date; a negative value
yields a past date.

Holidays   is an optional list of one or more dates to exclude from the
working calendar, such as state and federal holidays and floating holidays.
The list can be either a range of cells that contain the dates or an array
constant of the serial numbers that represent the dates. Learn about array
constants. For more information about how Microsoft Excel uses serial
numbers for dates, see the Remarks section.


Dave

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 3:14 PM
Subject: [AccessD] OT: US/UK public holidays


Hi all

What is the meaning of the column "Day Observed" here:

  http://www.usembassy.org.uk/ukpubhol.html

Look for example at the second and third last entry.

/gustav

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From DaveSharpe2 at cox.net  Wed Apr 14 17:07:43 2004
From: DaveSharpe2 at cox.net (Dave Sharpe)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 18:07:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: US/UK public holidays
References: <591136444.20040414211415@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <00a001c4226c$e94ce6c0$dd2f0a44@bcsrkeext6137>

gustav

A follow up o my earlier mailing.

These folks have lists available.
Not free but I didn't see a price list.

http://www.financialcalendar.com/products/main.htm

Dave

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 3:14 PM
Subject: [AccessD] OT: US/UK public holidays


Hi all

What is the meaning of the column "Day Observed" here:

  http://www.usembassy.org.uk/ukpubhol.html

Look for example at the second and third last entry.

/gustav

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Apr 14 17:33:31 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 08:33:31 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: US/UK public holidays
In-Reply-To: <591136444.20040414211415@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <407E48DB.8363.1540CB@localhost>

On 14 Apr 2004 at 21:14, Gustav Brock wrote:

> Hi all
> 
> What is the meaning of the column "Day Observed" here:
> 

The day that people actually "have off"

>   http://www.usembassy.org.uk/ukpubhol.html
> 
> Look for example at the second and third last entry.
> 

Where a  holiday falls on a non-working day, they take another day 
off "in lieu". ie

"New Year?s Day January 1, 2005 Friday, December 31, 2004"

New Years Day is a defined holiday which falls on 1 January. Since 
that falls on a Saturday, they are taking the Friday off.

Similarly, because Christmas and Boxing Day fall on Saturday and 
Sunday, they are taking Monday and Tuesday off.






 
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http://www.lexacorp.com.pg
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Support.





From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Wed Apr 14 18:07:03 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 17:07:03 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:  Syntax - Manipulating a sub-subform?
Message-ID: <246760-2200443142373578@christopherhawkins.com>

First, the setup:

Form frmMain contains a subform object named sFrmFind.  sFrmFind's
SourceObject is frmFind.

frmFind contains a subform object named sFrmResults.  sFrmResults'
SourceObject is frmResults.

frmResults is a datasheet with fields such as FirstName, LastName,
etc.
 
Now, my question...once frmMain is open and showing me my subforms,
how do I change the .ColumnOrder of a field in frmResults from within
the Click event of a button on frmFind?

Forms!frmMain.sFrmFind.Form!sFrmResults.Form("FirstName").ColumnOrder
= 1 isn't doing it.
Me.parent.sFrmFind.Form!sFrmResults.Form("FirstName").ColumnOrder = 1
isn't doing it either.

I keep getting 'Application-defined or object-defined error' when
either of those lines try to execute.

I'm oviously overlooking some nuance of syntax.

If I'm true to form, I'll have "one more idea" and fix it immediately
after clicking 'Send' on this eMail.  But by all means, suggest some
syntax anyway.  :)

-Christopher-




From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Apr 14 19:53:56 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 10:53:56 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Adding the word ALL to a combo - SOLVED
References: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIEEKKCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca><022d01c421d6$13918b80$48619a89@DDICK>
	<1336886412.20040414105051@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <005a01c42284$21761230$48619a89@DDICK>

Yes I did
Thanks
I actually wanted the < and the > in the appearance of the word in the list
Thanks heaps Gustav

This list is way cool. :-)))

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K:Adding the word ALL to a combo - SOLVED


> Hi Darren
> 
> > Thanks to all who responded
> > I went with Drew's suggestion
> > 'Cause he was first :-))
> 
> Yeah, but I guess you did adjust it to use "<ALL>", because "ALL"
> could be sorted within your recordset. Thus, if you have Alice and
> Susan, your combo would list:
> 
>      Alice
>      ALL
>      Susan
> 
> /gustav
> 
> > SELECT "ALL" As AField
> > FROM MyTable
> >
> > UNION SELECT MyField
> > FROM MyTable
> 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Apr 14 22:16:32 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 20:16:32 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:  Syntax - Manipulating a sub-subform?
In-Reply-To: <246760-2200443142373578@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIKEKOCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Christopher:

Did you see this entry at the DBA web site?
http://www.databaseadvisors.com/newletters/newsletter032004/0310ReferenceGui
de/SyntaxForSubs.htm (watch for wrap)

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Christopher
Hawkins
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 4:07 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Syntax - Manipulating a sub-subform?


First, the setup:

Form frmMain contains a subform object named sFrmFind.  sFrmFind's
SourceObject is frmFind.

frmFind contains a subform object named sFrmResults.  sFrmResults'
SourceObject is frmResults.

frmResults is a datasheet with fields such as FirstName, LastName,
etc.

Now, my question...once frmMain is open and showing me my subforms,
how do I change the .ColumnOrder of a field in frmResults from within
the Click event of a button on frmFind?

Forms!frmMain.sFrmFind.Form!sFrmResults.Form("FirstName").ColumnOrder
= 1 isn't doing it.
Me.parent.sFrmFind.Form!sFrmResults.Form("FirstName").ColumnOrder = 1
isn't doing it either.

I keep getting 'Application-defined or object-defined error' when
either of those lines try to execute.

I'm oviously overlooking some nuance of syntax.

If I'm true to form, I'll have "one more idea" and fix it immediately
after clicking 'Send' on this eMail.  But by all means, suggest some
syntax anyway.  :)

-Christopher-


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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Wed Apr 14 23:08:16 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 22:08:16 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:  Syntax - Manipulating a sub-subform?
Message-ID: <221950-2200444154816781@christopherhawkins.com>

Thanks!  I'll try this out tomorrow...

-Christopher-

---- Original Message ----
From: accessd at shaw.ca
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com, 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K:  Syntax - Manipulating a sub-subform?
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 20:16:32 -0700

>Hi Christopher:
>
>Did you see this entry at the DBA web site?
>http://www.databaseadvisors.com/newletters/newsletter032004/0310Refer
>enceGui
>de/SyntaxForSubs.htm (watch for wrap)
>
>HTH
>Jim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Christopher
>Hawkins
>Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 4:07 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Syntax - Manipulating a sub-subform?
>
>
>First, the setup:
>
>Form frmMain contains a subform object named sFrmFind.  sFrmFind's
>SourceObject is frmFind.
>
>frmFind contains a subform object named sFrmResults.  sFrmResults'
>SourceObject is frmResults.
>
>frmResults is a datasheet with fields such as FirstName, LastName,
>etc.
>
>Now, my question...once frmMain is open and showing me my subforms,
>how do I change the .ColumnOrder of a field in frmResults from within
>the Click event of a button on frmFind?
>
>Forms!frmMain.sFrmFind.Form!sFrmResults.Form("FirstName").ColumnOrder
>= 1 isn't doing it.
>Me.parent.sFrmFind.Form!sFrmResults.Form("FirstName").ColumnOrder = 1
>isn't doing it either.
>
>I keep getting 'Application-defined or object-defined error' when
>either of those lines try to execute.
>
>I'm oviously overlooking some nuance of syntax.
>
>If I'm true to form, I'll have "one more idea" and fix it immediately
>after clicking 'Send' on this eMail.  But by all means, suggest some
>syntax anyway.  :)
>
>-Christopher-
>
>
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From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Thu Apr 15 03:19:31 2004
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 09:19:31 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Ownership
Message-ID: <F37DAC9A2964B144A2973EBCA8C54DBDABD3BA@BURY2K23.bury.gov.uk>

Hi

Many thanks for all contributions (Stuart, Andy, Susan, Robert ,
Mastercafe and.....)  Yes its not an issue at the moment and I don't
intend to introduce it as one if I can help - I am simply trying to get
some footing should I be questioned on this matter....and as you say
Andy customers rarely go down this route. I like the standard 'proposal'
used by Stuart and may adopt something similar. 

Thanks again

Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart McLachlan [mailto:stuart at lexacorp.com.pg] 
Sent: 14 April 2004 00:21
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Ownership

On 13 Apr 2004 at 20:11, Andy Lacey wrote:

> Hi Richard
> It has always been my understanding that, unless a contract states
> otherwise, the source code belongs to the developer. 

I don't know about the UK, but in many situations, it is much more 
complicated than that.

>Having said that,
> however, it has equally always been my stance that if I'm being paid
to
> develop something then ethically what I develop specifically for the
client
> is 100% theirs. But the key word is 'specifically'. Most of us have an
awful
> lot of code in our lockers that we'll bring out in any development. 

In reality, *everyone* capable of developing a marketable solution does
this.

>The
> client needs to understand this and needs to see that he gets the
benefit
> because he doesn't pay for that stuff. It may be this that gives us
our
> marketing edge when we go into bat for the work.
> 

My standard "proposal" template says:

"The application will have been developed by Lexacorp for your use, 
but the developed application will incorporate code fragments and 
ideas that have previously been developed by Lexacorp and all 
intellectual property rights to the application remains the property 
of Lexacorp.  

You will receive a copy of the source code for the application and 
will be granted a non-exclusive licence to use such source code for 
maintenance and future development of the said application for your 
own use in such manner as you see fit. 
....
You may not sell or otherwise dispose of the said source code, or any 
application developed utilising all or part of it to any third party 
without the express agreement of  Lexacorp. "  



 
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr 15 04:47:52 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 11:47:52 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: US/UK public holidays
In-Reply-To: <00a001c4226c$e94ce6c0$dd2f0a44@bcsrkeext6137>
References: <591136444.20040414211415@cactus.dk>
	<00a001c4226c$e94ce6c0$dd2f0a44@bcsrkeext6137>
Message-ID: <1719482024.20040415114752@cactus.dk>

Hi Dave

Nice link for calendar freaks. Notice the tab with Free Stuff.

/gustav


> These folks have lists available.
> Not free but I didn't see a price list.

> http://www.financialcalendar.com/products/main.htm



From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr 15 04:36:22 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 11:36:22 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: US/UK public holidays
In-Reply-To: <591136444.20040414211415@cactus.dk>
References: <591136444.20040414211415@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <1058792482.20040415113622@cactus.dk>

Thanks for all the responses!

> The day that people actually "have off"

But is this a commom business rule in US and UK or is just an
arrangement for the embassies? And is there "a rule"? I notice that
for Christmas Day you have two different Day Observed - looks like UK
picks the proceeding workday while US picks the following workday.

Here it is just "bad luck" for the citizens if a fixed date public
holiday falls within a weekend or collides with a moveable holiday.

/gustav


> What is the meaning of the column "Day Observed" here:

>   http://www.usembassy.org.uk/ukpubhol.html

> Look for example at the second and third last entry.



From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Thu Apr 15 07:42:49 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 05:42:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Show proces-step?!
Message-ID: <20040415124249.74695.qmail@web61103.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi group,
 
I want the user to see what's currently going in the application. So if a user wants to proces 250 files (5-10 minutes) I want to show what file is currently being processed (me thinks this being pretty nasty English...sorry for that).
 
Something like:
Processing File: 9 of 21
Filename: 100_54_20040412.dat
 
Does anybody have any tips/examples?
 
TIA
 
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From jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com  Thu Apr 15 07:56:50 2004
From: jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com (jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 07:56:50 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Show proces-step?!
Message-ID: <OF0240BD52.10DDC968-ON86256E77.0046C4E6-86256E77.00471EC3@us.bank-dns.com>


One option is to place a label on your form and update it as you are
progressing through.

dim currentfilenumber as interger
dim totalfilenumber as interger
dim progressmessage as string

totalfilenumber = <<Total File Count>>
currentfilenumber = <<Current File Number Being Processed>>

progressmessage = "Processing File: " & currentfilenumber & " of "
totalfilenumber & chr(13) & chr(10)
progressmessage = progressmessage & "Filename: " & currentfilename

Another option is to look in the help about using the Status Bar.


me.lblProgress.Capation = progressmessage
Doevents


                                                                                                                                               
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Hi group,

I want the user to see what's currently going in the application. So if a
user wants to proces 250 files (5-10 minutes) I want to show what file is
currently being processed (me thinks this being pretty nasty
English...sorry for that).

Something like:
Processing File: 9 of 21
Filename: 100_54_20040412.dat

Does anybody have any tips/examples?

TIA

Sander


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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr 15 08:08:18 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:08:18 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Show proces-step?!
In-Reply-To: <OF0240BD52.10DDC968-ON86256E77.0046C4E6-86256E77.00471EC3@us.bank-dns.com>
References: <OF0240BD52.10DDC968-ON86256E77.0046C4E6-86256E77.00471EC3@us.bank-dns.com>
Message-ID: <3021508337.20040415150818@cactus.dk>

Hi Jeffrey and Sander

> me.lblProgress.Capation = progressmessage
> Doevents

I've found that Me.Repaint can be more effective.

/gustav



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr 15 08:14:03 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 09:14:03 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Show proces-step?!
In-Reply-To: <20040415124249.74695.qmail@web61103.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPAEKEHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Sander,

I have a progress form on my web site that can be opened and methods of the
form called to display messages, increment a progress bar etc.  Click the
Misc Demos button.  The file is C2DbDemoWaitform A2K or A97.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 8:43 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] Show proces-step?!


Hi group,

I want the user to see what's currently going in the application. So if a
user wants to proces 250 files (5-10 minutes) I want to show what file is
currently being processed (me thinks this being pretty nasty English...sorry
for that).

Something like:
Processing File: 9 of 21
Filename: 100_54_20040412.dat

Does anybody have any tips/examples?

TIA

Sander


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From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca  Thu Apr 15 08:20:07 2004
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 09:20:07 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: US/UK public holidays
Message-ID: <s07e53d1.009@cbc.ca>

Here in Canada it is usually the closest business day that becomes the
holiday. So if the holiday fall on Saturday, the observed holiday is the
Friday previous. If the holiday falls on a Sunday, then the observed day
is the Monday.

Now to add to complication, if the place of employement has a union
collective agreement, that may make the descision which day is observed
at that particular company.

Where I work, my collective agreement used to state that the observed
day must be in the same work week as the week that the holiday fell.
Since our work week is Monday to Sunday, all of our observed holidays
would be on the Friday (or Thursday and Friday if both weekend days were
holidays). So we would be closed when other businesses were open and
open when everyone else was closed. I think that it has now changed, but
I'm not 100% sure.

Bryan Carbonnell
bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca

>>> gustav at cactus.dk 15-Apr-04 5:36:22 AM >>>
Thanks for all the responses!

> The day that people actually "have off"

But is this a commom business rule in US and UK or is just an
arrangement for the embassies? And is there "a rule"? I notice that
for Christmas Day you have two different Day Observed - looks like UK
picks the proceeding workday while US picks the following workday.

Here it is just "bad luck" for the citizens if a fixed date public
holiday falls within a weekend or collides with a moveable holiday.

/gustav


> What is the meaning of the column "Day Observed" here:

>   http://www.usembassy.org.uk/ukpubhol.html 

> Look for example at the second and third last entry.



From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Thu Apr 15 08:33:48 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 06:33:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Show proces-step?! <SOLVED>
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPAEKEHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <20040415133348.86789.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi John,
 
i've downloaded the file...looks pretty complex though but solid!
 
Jeffrey, thanks for you're idea. If johns demo is to complex for me you'res sounds fine.
 
Thnx again.
 
Sander

"John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:

Sander,

I have a progress form on my web site that can be opened and methods of the
form called to display messages, increment a progress bar etc. Click the
Misc Demos button. The file is C2DbDemoWaitform A2K or A97.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


One option is to place a label on your form and update it as you are
progressing through.

dim currentfilenumber as interger
dim totalfilenumber as interger
dim progressmessage as string

totalfilenumber = <<Total File Count>>
currentfilenumber = <<Current File Number Being Processed>>

progressmessage = "Processing File: " & currentfilenumber & " of "
totalfilenumber & chr(13) & chr(10)
progressmessage = progressmessage & "Filename: " & currentfilename

Another option is to look in the help about using the Status Bar.


me.lblProgress.Capation = progressmessage
Doevents

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 8:43 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] Show proces-step?!


Hi group,

I want the user to see what's currently going in the application. So if a
user wants to proces 250 files (5-10 minutes) I want to show what file is
currently being processed (me thinks this being pretty nasty English...sorry
for that).

Something like:
Processing File: 9 of 21
Filename: 100_54_20040412.dat

Does anybody have any tips/examples?

TIA

Sander


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr 15 08:59:02 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 09:59:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Show proces-step?! <SOLVED>
In-Reply-To: <20040415133348.86789.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPOEKEHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Just look at the demo setup code.  It's really pretty easy to use.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 9:34 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Show proces-step?! <SOLVED>


Hi John,

i've downloaded the file...looks pretty complex though but solid!

Jeffrey, thanks for you're idea. If johns demo is to complex for me you'res
sounds fine.

Thnx again.

Sander

"John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:

Sander,

I have a progress form on my web site that can be opened and methods of the
form called to display messages, increment a progress bar etc. Click the
Misc Demos button. The file is C2DbDemoWaitform A2K or A97.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


One option is to place a label on your form and update it as you are
progressing through.

dim currentfilenumber as interger
dim totalfilenumber as interger
dim progressmessage as string

totalfilenumber = <<Total File Count>>
currentfilenumber = <<Current File Number Being Processed>>

progressmessage = "Processing File: " & currentfilenumber & " of "
totalfilenumber & chr(13) & chr(10)
progressmessage = progressmessage & "Filename: " & currentfilename

Another option is to look in the help about using the Status Bar.


me.lblProgress.Capation = progressmessage
Doevents

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 8:43 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] Show proces-step?!


Hi group,

I want the user to see what's currently going in the application. So if a
user wants to proces 250 files (5-10 minutes) I want to show what file is
currently being processed (me thinks this being pretty nasty English...sorry
for that).

Something like:
Processing File: 9 of 21
Filename: 100_54_20040412.dat

Does anybody have any tips/examples?

TIA

Sander


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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Thu Apr 15 10:17:53 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 10:17:53 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Archives are back online!
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227ACF@main2.marlow.com>

The archives at http://www.wolfwares.com/AccessD are back online! Yippie!

Drew


From tim at irwingreenhouses.com  Thu Apr 15 14:00:30 2004
From: tim at irwingreenhouses.com (Tim Thiessen)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 14:00:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Inventory Design
Message-ID: <002701c4231b$ed59f000$7800a8c0@timt>

Hi Group!
The company I work for produces products that are persiable.  Our inventory
setup has worked well in the past but now our market is changing and we need
to make a change.  Currently, we physically count products and place on the
inventory for a week period.  With the new markets, we will need to be able
to track future inventory or production and apply future orders to it in
order  to know what is or is not available on a certain date in the future.
We will need to be working up to 18 months in advance.  This will primarily
be used to help sales and to plan production.  Has anyone had any experience
with doing this sort of thing and have any advice in designing tables to
accomplish this?

Tim Thiessen
Production Manager
Irwin Greenhouses, Inc.
806-655-7811
Fax 806-655-3046



From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Apr 15 14:39:39 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:39:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Decompile
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB6C@nnse14.nns.com>

Has anyone seen a case where /decompile did not appear to do anything?  I'm
getting the same "corrupt" error message as before.  I have 2 objects that
appear to be the culprits.  I get the same "corrupt" error message when
trying to import these objects into a new database (no error messages on the
other objects).  In the corrupted database I cannot go into the IDE at
all...I get the same "corrupt" error message.  This is actually the first
time I've been bitten, without having a recent backup to fall back to, and
I'm stressing.  Any suggestions?



Mark


From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Apr 15 14:51:14 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 12:51:14 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Inventory Design
References: <002701c4231b$ed59f000$7800a8c0@timt>
Message-ID: <015701c42323$02e81c10$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Tim:

Take a look at www.ezmrp.com

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Thiessen" <tim at irwingreenhouses.com>
To: "AccessD List (E-mail)" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 12:00 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Inventory Design


> Hi Group!
> The company I work for produces products that are persiable.  Our
inventory
> setup has worked well in the past but now our market is changing and we
need
> to make a change.  Currently, we physically count products and place on
the
> inventory for a week period.  With the new markets, we will need to be
able
> to track future inventory or production and apply future orders to it in
> order  to know what is or is not available on a certain date in the
future.
> We will need to be working up to 18 months in advance.  This will
primarily
> be used to help sales and to plan production.  Has anyone had any
experience
> with doing this sort of thing and have any advice in designing tables to
> accomplish this?
>
> Tim Thiessen
> Production Manager
> Irwin Greenhouses, Inc.
> 806-655-7811
> Fax 806-655-3046
>
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From JHewson at karta.com  Thu Apr 15 14:52:45 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 14:52:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox contents
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C138357@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>


I am having difficulty figuring this one out.

A97.  
I have a list box with over 130 items all rows are distinct but a few columns are duplicates.  The ListBox is sorted on two text fields which puts the ID number out of sequence.  The ComboBox sorts and "Groups By" duplicate columns.  What I want to do is use the ComboBox to jump to the first instance of one of the duplicate columns.

e.g.

ID	CourseName	City
135	CCP		EC
90	DIS		EC
87	DIS		MP
18	DOC		CD
17	DOC		SR
55	DSC M		AL
57	DSC M		EC
43	DSC M		MP
28	DSC M		SF
3	DSC M		SR

What I want is:
135	CCP		EC
90	DIS		EC
18	DOC		CD
55	DSC M		AL
3	DSC M		SR

What I get is:
135	CCP		EC
87	DIS		MP
17	DOC		SR
3	DSC M		SR

What needs to be done to what the desired results?

Thanks,

Jim 

From garykjos at hotmail.com  Thu Apr 15 14:56:37 2004
From: garykjos at hotmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 14:56:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Decompile
Message-ID: <BAY2-F144cL9NtDEJmG00010a46@hotmail.com>

Hi Mark,

1) Make a copy.

2) Run the stand alone repair utility jetcomp.exe on the copy.

If that doesn't work....

3) make a new empty database and try to import the objects from the copy. 
You may have to do this one object at a time.

Gary Kjos
garykjos at hotmail.com





>From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: [AccessD] Decompile
>Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:39:39 -0400
>
>Has anyone seen a case where /decompile did not appear to do anything?  I'm
>getting the same "corrupt" error message as before.  I have 2 objects that
>appear to be the culprits.  I get the same "corrupt" error message when
>trying to import these objects into a new database (no error messages on 
>the
>other objects).  In the corrupted database I cannot go into the IDE at
>all...I get the same "corrupt" error message.  This is actually the first
>time I've been bitten, without having a recent backup to fall back to, and
>I'm stressing.  Any suggestions?
>
>
>
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From CMackin at Quiznos.com  Thu Apr 15 14:58:29 2004
From: CMackin at Quiznos.com (Mackin, Christopher)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 13:58:29 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Decompile
Message-ID: <8950FA061E09F3478FDC2DE9FA86D83D376A5B@bross.quiznos.net>

I've always had to resort to importing the objects into a new db, the
corrupt ones won't come, then rebuild those from scratch

-Chris Mackin

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 1:40 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Decompile


Has anyone seen a case where /decompile did not appear to do anything?  I'm
getting the same "corrupt" error message as before.  I have 2 objects that
appear to be the culprits.  I get the same "corrupt" error message when
trying to import these objects into a new database (no error messages on the
other objects).  In the corrupted database I cannot go into the IDE at
all...I get the same "corrupt" error message.  This is actually the first
time I've been bitten, without having a recent backup to fall back to, and
I'm stressing.  Any suggestions?



Mark
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From Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com  Thu Apr 15 15:07:16 2004
From: Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com (Pickering, Stephen)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 13:07:16 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Decompile
Message-ID: <CF0EA31794DDD611ADDC00065B88640C039A2F65@s98027.psd.caremark.int>

Mark,

Import every object except the corrupt ones.  If you don't have a version of
these objects that isn't corrupt, you will need to rebuild them.

Also, back up early and often.  Corruption happens.  It's sometimes, but not
always, because of something you've done.  Best to be prepared.  Some
databases never come back....

Steve

-----Mark S. Mitsules' Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 2:40 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Decompile


Has anyone seen a case where /decompile did not appear to do anything?  I'm
getting the same "corrupt" error message as before.  I have 2 objects that
appear to be the culprits.  I get the same "corrupt" error message when
trying to import these objects into a new database (no error messages on the
other objects).  In the corrupted database I cannot go into the IDE at
all...I get the same "corrupt" error message.  This is actually the first
time I've been bitten, without having a recent backup to fall back to, and
I'm stressing.  Any suggestions?



Mark
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Apr 15 15:08:00 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 16:08:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Decompile
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB6D@nnse14.nns.com>

Gary,

I had forgotten about that utility...thanks, I'll give it a try. As for
importing I've already done that.  Unfortunately, The 2 objects that appear
to be corrupted are both Modules:(


Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Kjos [mailto:garykjos at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 3:57 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Decompile


Hi Mark,

1) Make a copy.

2) Run the stand alone repair utility jetcomp.exe on the copy.

If that doesn't work....

3) make a new empty database and try to import the objects from the copy. 
You may have to do this one object at a time.

Gary Kjos
garykjos at hotmail.com





>From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: [AccessD] Decompile
>Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:39:39 -0400
>
>Has anyone seen a case where /decompile did not appear to do anything?  I'm
>getting the same "corrupt" error message as before.  I have 2 objects that
>appear to be the culprits.  I get the same "corrupt" error message when
>trying to import these objects into a new database (no error messages on 
>the
>other objects).  In the corrupted database I cannot go into the IDE at
>all...I get the same "corrupt" error message.  This is actually the first
>time I've been bitten, without having a recent backup to fall back to, and
>I'm stressing.  Any suggestions?
>
>
>
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From jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com  Thu Apr 15 15:03:23 2004
From: jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com (jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:03:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Using TransferDatabase to link table from password
	protectd db
Message-ID: <OFEAD4A8D1.CB964D3A-ON86256E77.006DCA7F-86256E77.006E2BCB@us.bank-dns.com>


I have the following code in a database.  Works fine if there is no
password on the database.  However I need to add a password to the database
the is being linked to.  How can I modify the code so that it accepts a
password and does not prompt the user for one?


Sub linkdatatable(mytable As String)

    'Link in tables for query
    If IsLinked(mytable) = False Then
        DoCmd.TransferDatabase acLink, "Microsoft Access", GetDataFile,
acTable, mytable, mytable, False
    End If
End Sub


TIA





From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Apr 15 15:15:52 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 16:15:52 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Decompile
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB6E@nnse14.nns.com>

Yep, this was completely my fault.  I had asked someone to beta test a form
for me.  Unfortunately, I still had it open in design mode when he opened
it.  I closed my instance of the form.  The functionality was immediately
suspect on his instance because a particular dynamic report was not changing
its recordsource as expected.  As soon as he exited the db I did the same.
When I re-entered the db I used an ldb viewer and noticed that the ldb
listed him as not logged on, but "suspect" just the same.  That was the last
time the db opened normally:(



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Pickering, Stephen [mailto:Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:07 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Decompile


Mark,

Import every object except the corrupt ones.  If you don't have a version of
these objects that isn't corrupt, you will need to rebuild them.

Also, back up early and often.  Corruption happens.  It's sometimes, but not
always, because of something you've done.  Best to be prepared.  Some
databases never come back....

Steve

-----Mark S. Mitsules' Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 2:40 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Decompile


Has anyone seen a case where /decompile did not appear to do anything?  I'm
getting the same "corrupt" error message as before.  I have 2 objects that
appear to be the culprits.  I get the same "corrupt" error message when
trying to import these objects into a new database (no error messages on the
other objects).  In the corrupted database I cannot go into the IDE at
all...I get the same "corrupt" error message.  This is actually the first
time I've been bitten, without having a recent backup to fall back to, and
I'm stressing.  Any suggestions?



Mark
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From Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com  Thu Apr 15 15:22:07 2004
From: Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com (Pickering, Stephen)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:22:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Decompile
Message-ID: <CF0EA31794DDD611ADDC00065B88640C039A2F67@s98027.psd.caremark.int>

Another thing to try on the offending objects....

Strip all of the code from them if you can.  (If you can't, this won't work.)
Paste the code into Notepad if you can.

Repair and compact the database, then decompile and recompile.  Then paste
your offending code back into the object's modules.  Then recompile.

I've saved at least one database this way.

HTH,

Steve

-----Stephen Pickering's Original Message-----

Mark,

Import every object except the corrupt ones.  If you don't have a version of
these objects that isn't corrupt, you will need to rebuild them.

Also, back up early and often.  Corruption happens.  It's sometimes, but not
always, because of something you've done.  Best to be prepared.  Some
databases never come back....

Steve

-----Mark S. Mitsules' Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 2:40 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Decompile


Has anyone seen a case where /decompile did not appear to do anything?  I'm
getting the same "corrupt" error message as before.  I have 2 objects that
appear to be the culprits.  I get the same "corrupt" error message when
trying to import these objects into a new database (no error messages on the
other objects).  In the corrupted database I cannot go into the IDE at
all...I get the same "corrupt" error message.  This is actually the first
time I've been bitten, without having a recent backup to fall back to, and
I'm stressing.  Any suggestions?



Mark
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Apr 15 15:30:43 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 13:30:43 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
Message-ID: <017f01c42328$86d422d0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Dear List:

A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it to be 300dpi.

What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?

MTIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com



From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Apr 15 15:30:41 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 16:30:41 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Decompile
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB6F@nnse14.nns.com>

No joy with Jetcomp.  Although the db did open without error, still could
not get to the IDE to retrieve the code.



Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Kjos [mailto:garykjos at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 3:57 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Decompile


Hi Mark,

1) Make a copy.

2) Run the stand alone repair utility jetcomp.exe on the copy.

If that doesn't work....

3) make a new empty database and try to import the objects from the copy. 
You may have to do this one object at a time.

Gary Kjos
garykjos at hotmail.com





>From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: [AccessD] Decompile
>Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:39:39 -0400
>
>Has anyone seen a case where /decompile did not appear to do anything?  I'm
>getting the same "corrupt" error message as before.  I have 2 objects that
>appear to be the culprits.  I get the same "corrupt" error message when
>trying to import these objects into a new database (no error messages on 
>the
>other objects).  In the corrupted database I cannot go into the IDE at
>all...I get the same "corrupt" error message.  This is actually the first
>time I've been bitten, without having a recent backup to fall back to, and
>I'm stressing.  Any suggestions?
>
>
>
>Mark
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Apr 15 15:34:13 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 16:34:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB70@nnse14.nns.com>

Alt+PrintScreen will copy the current active window to the clipboard.
Ctrl+PrintScreen will copy the desktop to the clipboard.

Then, paste into whatever program you'd like.

Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:31 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


Dear List:

A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it to be
300dpi.

What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?

MTIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Thu Apr 15 15:45:06 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:45:06 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox content
	s
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227AD3@main2.marlow.com>

In the section that you 'want', what is the difference between DSC M and DSC
M?  Why would you want 2, when you have 1 of everything else?

Drew

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 2:53 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox contents



I am having difficulty figuring this one out.

A97.  
I have a list box with over 130 items all rows are distinct but a few
columns are duplicates.  The ListBox is sorted on two text fields which puts
the ID number out of sequence.  The ComboBox sorts and "Groups By" duplicate
columns.  What I want to do is use the ComboBox to jump to the first
instance of one of the duplicate columns.

e.g.

ID	CourseName	City
135	CCP		EC
90	DIS		EC
87	DIS		MP
18	DOC		CD
17	DOC		SR
55	DSC M		AL
57	DSC M		EC
43	DSC M		MP
28	DSC M		SF
3	DSC M		SR

What I want is:
135	CCP		EC
90	DIS		EC
18	DOC		CD
55	DSC M		AL
3	DSC M		SR

What I get is:
135	CCP		EC
87	DIS		MP
17	DOC		SR
3	DSC M		SR

What needs to be done to what the desired results?

Thanks,

Jim 


From JHewson at karta.com  Thu Apr 15 15:44:38 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:44:38 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox contents
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C138358@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

My error.  I only need one.
Thanks for noticing.
Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 3:45 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox
contents


In the section that you 'want', what is the difference between DSC M and DSC
M?  Why would you want 2, when you have 1 of everything else?

Drew

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 2:53 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox contents



I am having difficulty figuring this one out.

A97.  
I have a list box with over 130 items all rows are distinct but a few
columns are duplicates.  The ListBox is sorted on two text fields which puts
the ID number out of sequence.  The ComboBox sorts and "Groups By" duplicate
columns.  What I want to do is use the ComboBox to jump to the first
instance of one of the duplicate columns.

e.g.

ID	CourseName	City
135	CCP		EC
90	DIS		EC
87	DIS		MP
18	DOC		CD
17	DOC		SR
55	DSC M		AL
57	DSC M		EC
43	DSC M		MP
28	DSC M		SF
3	DSC M		SR

What I want is:
135	CCP		EC
90	DIS		EC
18	DOC		CD
55	DSC M		AL
3	DSC M		SR

What I get is:
135	CCP		EC
87	DIS		MP
17	DOC		SR
3	DSC M		SR

What needs to be done to what the desired results?

Thanks,

Jim 
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Thu Apr 15 16:04:29 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 16:04:29 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox content
	s
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227AD5@main2.marlow.com>

Well, Access doesn't necessarily 'store' the information the way that you
see it.  So you will need some field to 'sort/group' by.  For instance, if
you want the 'highest' ID, then GroupBy CourseName and set Max for the ID.  

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 3:45 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox
contents


My error.  I only need one.
Thanks for noticing.
Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 3:45 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox
contents


In the section that you 'want', what is the difference between DSC M and DSC
M?  Why would you want 2, when you have 1 of everything else?

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 2:53 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox contents



I am having difficulty figuring this one out.

A97.  
I have a list box with over 130 items all rows are distinct but a few
columns are duplicates.  The ListBox is sorted on two text fields which puts
the ID number out of sequence.  The ComboBox sorts and "Groups By" duplicate
columns.  What I want to do is use the ComboBox to jump to the first
instance of one of the duplicate columns.

e.g.

ID	CourseName	City
135	CCP		EC
90	DIS		EC
87	DIS		MP
18	DOC		CD
17	DOC		SR
55	DSC M		AL
57	DSC M		EC
43	DSC M		MP
28	DSC M		SF
3	DSC M		SR

What I want is:
135	CCP		EC
90	DIS		EC
18	DOC		CD
55	DSC M		AL
3	DSC M		SR

What I get is:
135	CCP		EC
87	DIS		MP
17	DOC		SR
3	DSC M		SR

What needs to be done to what the desired results?

Thanks,

Jim 
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From garykjos at hotmail.com  Thu Apr 15 16:08:59 2004
From: garykjos at hotmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 16:08:59 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Decompile
Message-ID: <BAY2-F120GkqRx8p7pa0001038f@hotmail.com>

>No joy with Jetcomp.  Although the db did open without error, still could
>not get to the IDE to retrieve the code.
>
>
>
>Mark

Toasted them eh? I'm sorry for you.

Small consolation I know, but It's been my experince that rewriting code 
that's been lost is a lot easier than it was to write originally. And you 
get the chance to make those changes you thought about but didn't do. :-)

Good luck! And I'd guess you will be doing some more frequent saves as 
different names for a while. ;-)

Gary Kjos
garykjos at hotmail.com

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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Thu Apr 15 16:11:39 2004
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 17:11:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Dr Watson Errors on Broadband connection
Message-ID: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF407AD81CA@xlivmbx12.aig.com>

X-Posted to Access-L and Access-D

I have an Access97 database, split FE/BE. The BE resides on a network drive,
and the FE is on the user's local C drive and it is an MDE file that
references a library MDE that is also on the network. All references use the
full UNC path to the files, not mapped drives.

I have a user who has no trouble when he's in the office docked and
connected to the LAN. The database also works fine when he's at a remote
location that has a dedicated T1 line into our LAN.

However, when he tries to access the database, using the exact same
computer, but connected to the LAN via his cable modem and our VPN s/w he
finds that Access crashes, giving a Dr. Watson error before any sign of the
application appears on screen. 

It's one of those "Exception access violation (0xc0000005), Address
0c651503f7" type Dr. Watsons that one typically sees if an MDE application
tries to reference an MDE library that has been modified and recompiled. If
you don't recompile the client MDE you get this type of Dr. Watson.

The only trouble is the library has not been recompiled recently.

Any ideas any one????

Lambert 


From dw-murphy at cox.net  Thu Apr 15 16:13:53 2004
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 14:13:53 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
In-Reply-To: <017f01c42328$86d422d0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <000e01c4232e$91a9ab20$8500a8c0@CX615377a>

I like Snagit, http://www.techsmith.com/.  It gives you lots of
versitility in making screen shots as far as selecting the portion of
the screen you want to copy, etc.  You can save time image in all the
common formats.

Doug

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
- Beach Access Software
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 1:31 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


Dear List:

A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it
to be 300dpi.

What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?

MTIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Thu Apr 15 16:17:42 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 16:17:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
In-Reply-To: <30152573.1082061814091.JavaMail.root@sniper5.usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <000501c4232f$1783df90$de1811d8@danwaters>

First, to get just the Active window from Access, the form needs to have
Modal = Yes and PopUp = Yes.  Then Alt+PrintScreen will work.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark S.
(Newport News)
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 3:34 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot

Alt+PrintScreen will copy the current active window to the clipboard.
Ctrl+PrintScreen will copy the desktop to the clipboard.

Then, paste into whatever program you'd like.

Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:31 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


Dear List:

A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it to be
300dpi.

What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?

MTIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Thu Apr 15 16:19:57 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 16:19:57 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Decompile
In-Reply-To: <4518625.1082063843829.JavaMail.root@sniper5.usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <000601c4232f$680687b0$de1811d8@danwaters>

My rule is that if I can still read the letters on my Ctrl key and my S key
than I'm probably not saving enough!

Dan

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:09 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Decompile

>No joy with Jetcomp.  Although the db did open without error, still could
>not get to the IDE to retrieve the code.
>
>
>
>Mark

Toasted them eh? I'm sorry for you.

Small consolation I know, but It's been my experince that rewriting code 
that's been lost is a lot easier than it was to write originally. And you 
get the chance to make those changes you thought about but didn't do. :-)

Good luck! And I'd guess you will be doing some more frequent saves as 
different names for a while. ;-)

Gary Kjos
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 15 16:24:23 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 17:24:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
In-Reply-To: <000e01c4232e$91a9ab20$8500a8c0@CX615377a>
Message-ID: <20040415212420.GPZK1773.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I think the issue is probably controlling the 300 dpi -- is that correct
Rocky? Not every program lets you set the dpi.

Susan H. 

I like Snagit, http://www.techsmith.com/.  It gives you lots of versitility
in making screen shots as far as selecting the portion of the screen you
want to copy, etc.  You can save time image in all the common formats.




From john at winhaven.net  Thu Apr 15 16:31:00 2004
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 16:31:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
In-Reply-To: <017f01c42328$86d422d0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKIOEOPFFAA.john@winhaven.net>

Rocky,
Odd that they would ask you to do it for them at that dpi. Normally a screen
capture would be at 96 dpi. And for what its worth they should be able to
manipulate it to their desired quality better than you.

If you download SnagIt they give you an evaluation period. You can set the
resolution to 300. Otherwise if you have a graphics editing program you can
copy the screen as Mark suggested and then paste it into your graphics
program then increase the resolution to 300 dpi. All this will do is use
pixel interpolation to increase the dpi.

Print it out to make sure it looks good in print before sending it though.
What you see isn't what you get when it comes to printing graphics.

good luck,
John

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Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 3:31 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


Dear List:

A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it to be
300dpi.

What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?

MTIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
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From Subscriptions at servicexp.com  Thu Apr 15 17:06:44 2004
From: Subscriptions at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 18:06:44 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Decompile
In-Reply-To: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB6F@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <GPEGJHKJCEPGJIEIOEOOKEDJDLAA.Subscriptions@servicexp.com>


Mark,

If you can see the Object in the Access container, then you may be able to
right click on it and export it into a new db. I just had to do this two
weeks ago and while the very first time it did not seem to work, I tried it
again (system was tied up for about 5 min) and wham I was able to export the
class I was working on out of the corrupt db. This will only work if the
code is not password protected...


Robert Gracie
www.servicexp.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
S. (Newport News)
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:31 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Decompile


No joy with Jetcomp.  Although the db did open without error, still could
not get to the IDE to retrieve the code.



Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Kjos [mailto:garykjos at hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 3:57 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Decompile


Hi Mark,

1) Make a copy.

2) Run the stand alone repair utility jetcomp.exe on the copy.

If that doesn't work....

3) make a new empty database and try to import the objects from the copy.
You may have to do this one object at a time.

Gary Kjos
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>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: [AccessD] Decompile
>Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:39:39 -0400
>
>Has anyone seen a case where /decompile did not appear to do anything?  I'm
>getting the same "corrupt" error message as before.  I have 2 objects that
>appear to be the culprits.  I get the same "corrupt" error message when
>trying to import these objects into a new database (no error messages on
>the
>other objects).  In the corrupted database I cannot go into the IDE at
>all...I get the same "corrupt" error message.  This is actually the first
>time I've been bitten, without having a recent backup to fall back to, and
>I'm stressing.  Any suggestions?
>
>
>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 15 17:25:10 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 08:25:10 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
In-Reply-To: <017f01c42328$86d422d0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <407F9866.27925.1571AF@localhost>

On 15 Apr 2004 at 13:30, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access S wrote:

> Dear List:
> 
> A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it to be 300dpi.
> 
> What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?
> 

I like Irfanview.

http://www.irfanview.com

You can capture the screen or the foreground window and then 
manipulate the image  (including cropping if necessary and  setting 
DPI if required)  before saving it in just about any format 
imaginable.


 
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From Paul.Millard at freight.fedex.com  Thu Apr 15 17:30:16 2004
From: Paul.Millard at freight.fedex.com (Millard,
	Paul --- Sr. Developer Analyst ---WGO)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:30:16 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: SQL SERVER Format Date
Message-ID: <67B2D43A2067B248A36B007650A2312C35F96D@PSJOE2K1.fxfwest.freight.fedex.com>

Hi,

I know this isn't the right forum to ask but I need help formatting date from the SQL Server default output into "mm/dd".  The query results are reported in an asp page.

Thanks in advance,
Paul Millard


Here is my query and results....

----query----
set 
datefirst 1 
select top 13 
Week = (DateAdd(day, (-1 * datepart(dw, t1.ReqEntryDate)) + 1, t1.ReqEntryDate))
from tblPrFieldSales t1 where t1.ReqEntryDate >= '3/1/2004' 
order by Week DESC   

----results----
2004-04-12 00:00:00.000
2004-04-12 00:00:00.000
2004-04-12 00:00:00.000
2004-04-12 00:00:00.000

----ideal results----
04/12
04/12...
 


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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Apr 15 17:50:38 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:50:38 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
References: <20040415212420.GPZK1773.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <01a101c4233c$126a41e0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

That's it.  They need 300dpi.  Or close, I suppose, as I can get it.

Rocky

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Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 2:24 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


> I think the issue is probably controlling the 300 dpi -- is that correct
> Rocky? Not every program lets you set the dpi.
>
> Susan H.
>
> I like Snagit, http://www.techsmith.com/.  It gives you lots of
versitility
> in making screen shots as far as selecting the portion of the screen you
> want to copy, etc.  You can save time image in all the common formats.
>
>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 15 17:58:07 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 08:58:07 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: SQL SERVER Format Date
In-Reply-To: <67B2D43A2067B248A36B007650A2312C35F96D@PSJOE2K1.fxfwest.freight.fedex.com>
Message-ID: <407FA01F.22869.339AD0@localhost>

On 15 Apr 2004 at 15:30, Millard,	Paul --- Sr. Develop wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I know this isn't the right forum to ask but I need help formatting date from the SQL Server default output into "mm/dd".  The query results are reported in an asp page.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Paul Millard
> 
> 
> Here is my query and results....
> 
> ----query----
> set 
> datefirst 1 
> select top 13 
> Week = (DateAdd(day, (-1 * datepart(dw, t1.ReqEntryDate)) + 1, t1.ReqEntryDate))
> from tblPrFieldSales t1 where t1.ReqEntryDate >= '3/1/2004' 
> order by Week DESC   
> 
> ----results----
> 2004-04-12 00:00:00.000
> 2004-04-12 00:00:00.000
> 2004-04-12 00:00:00.000
> 2004-04-12 00:00:00.000
> 
> ----ideal results----
> 04/12
> 04/12...
>  

Try

Week = Convert(char(5), (DateAdd(day, (-1 * 
datepart(dw,t1.ReqEntryDate)) + 1, t1.ReqEntryDate)),1)




 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 15 17:59:15 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 08:59:15 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
In-Reply-To: <01a101c4233c$126a41e0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <407FA063.21112.34A470@localhost>

On 15 Apr 2004 at 15:50, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:

> That's it.  They need 300dpi.  Or close, I suppose, as I can get it.
> 
> Rocky
> 

It's very easy to set to any value you  want with Irfanview.




 
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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Thu Apr 15 18:05:53 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 17:05:53 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Deleted response:  Reference sub-subform from subform?
Message-ID: <410-22004441523553543@christopherhawkins.com>

I'm so sorry, but I accidentall deleted the responses I got on my
issue with how to reference a sub-sub form from within a sub form.

Can anyone who responded please re-send?  Thanks.

-Christopher-






From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 15 18:18:23 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 19:18:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
References: <017f01c42328$86d422d0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <000a01c4233f$f2bc6040$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...don't use any program that initially captures your screen as a jpeg ...I
won't go into the details here but when you save an image as a jpeg you are
using a lossy algorithm that throws away portions of the graphic ...its the
nature of the beast ...in order to give them the high quality jpeg they
need, start with a decent graphics program that lets you capture the image
in a high quality, uncompressed format to begin with ...Photoshop and
paintshoppro are the mainstream programs ...I personally use paintshoppro
(www.jasc.com) ...set your screen resolution to the highest resolution your
graphics card can support and make sure your image capture area is clean and
clear at that resolution ...capture the image and save it into un
uncompressed format, preferably the native format of your graphics program
...in paintshoppro that would give you an image with a .pspimage file tag
...using that image you can do all sorts of image enhancements to make your
saved image look better ...then resize it to 300dpi ...if you started at a
much lower screen resolution you might wind up with too small an image at
this point ...once the image is sized/cropped/enhanced just as you'd like to
see it, use your graphics program's feature that optimizes it and saves it
as a jpeg ...use zero compression (even though the jpeg will still have some
inherent image quality loss) and make sure that you use the comparison
feature to ensure minimal visible loss of image quality in the resulting
file.

...now you have a decent sized jpeg at the desired dpi that is the best that
you can present ...hth :)

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:30 PM
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


Dear List:

A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it to be
300dpi.

What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?

MTIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com

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From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 15 18:19:22 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 19:19:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Deleted response:  Reference sub-subform from subform?
References: <410-22004441523553543@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <001501c42340$22a64e60$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...just go to the archives Chris ...that's what they're for :)

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


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From: "Christopher Hawkins" <clh at christopherhawkins.com>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 7:05 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Deleted response: Reference sub-subform from subform?


> I'm so sorry, but I accidentall deleted the responses I got on my
> issue with how to reference a sub-sub form from within a sub form.
> 
> Can anyone who responded please re-send?  Thanks.
> 
> -Christopher-
> 
> 
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Apr 15 18:55:03 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 16:55:03 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
References: <407FA063.21112.34A470@localhost>
Message-ID: <01de01c42345$12358730$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Stuart:

I just used it to capture and send the jpg but I couldn't see any way to set
the dpi.  Help wasn't.  Do you recall how it's done?

TIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


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From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


> On 15 Apr 2004 at 15:50, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>
> > That's it.  They need 300dpi.  Or close, I suppose, as I can get it.
> >
> > Rocky
> >
>
> It's very easy to set to any value you  want with Irfanview.
>
>
>
>
>
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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Thu Apr 15 19:26:05 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 18:26:05 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] A2K/03/XP:  Make a form "dissolve" into view?
Message-ID: <184670-2200445160265558@christopherhawkins.com>

OK, here's a weird one.

I'm doing fit and polish work on one of my projects.  I thought of
something that might be fun to code, seeing as I'm ahead of schedule.


It would be a nice bit of eye candy to have the splash screen
dissolve or fade into view instead of just popping open as Access/VB
forms tend to do.  In essence, the form would open with 100%
transparency and incrementally decrease transparency until it was a
solid form.  The whole fade (actually, it's the opposite of fade,
what do you call that?) should only take a second or two.  

Has anyone ever done anything like this in Access?  I've seen VB apps
that do this, but never an app I was able to get the source to, so I
don't even know where to start.

-Christopher-






From DaveSharpe2 at cox.net  Thu Apr 15 19:30:43 2004
From: DaveSharpe2 at cox.net (Dave Sharpe)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:30:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
References: <407FA063.21112.34A470@localhost>
	<01de01c42345$12358730$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <007d01c4234a$0dae5f20$dd2f0a44@bcsrkeext6137>

Rocky

I have it, but haven't used it to
do this. You might try the following

While You have the image on screen
Image ->Resize\Resample has a setting
for DPI, try setting before saving.

Dave


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


Stuart:

I just used it to capture and send the jpg but I couldn't see any way to set
the dpi.  Help wasn't.  Do you recall how it's done?

TIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


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From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


> On 15 Apr 2004 at 15:50, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>
> > That's it.  They need 300dpi.  Or close, I suppose, as I can get it.
> >
> > Rocky
> >
>
> It's very easy to set to any value you  want with Irfanview.
>
>
>
>
>
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From lexacorp at global.net.pg  Thu Apr 15 20:29:10 2004
From: lexacorp at global.net.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 11:29:10 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
Message-ID: <407f36e6.1c3.110e9.1392661946@global.net.pg>

>
> Stuart:
>
> I just used it to capture and send the jpg but I couldn't
> see any way to set the dpi.  Help wasn't.  Do you recall
> how it's done?
>

Go to "Image - Resize/Resample" and change the setting in
"Set new size - DPI"

or

Got to  "Image - Information" and set it in that screen.


From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Apr 15 19:22:50 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 17:22:50 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
In-Reply-To: <017f01c42328$86d422d0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIGELGCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Rocky:

There is a little free utility that I use to do a quick screen captures. The
results can be saved or printing and there is a few other features. Check it
out: http://www.geocities.com/~gigaman/

HTH
Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 1:31 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


Dear List:

A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it to be
300dpi.

What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?

MTIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Apr 15 19:22:55 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 17:22:55 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
In-Reply-To: <01de01c42345$12358730$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIKELGCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Rocky:

If you have a graphic program you can always adjust/check the dpi.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:55 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


Stuart:

I just used it to capture and send the jpg but I couldn't see any way to set
the dpi.  Help wasn't.  Do you recall how it's done?

TIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


> On 15 Apr 2004 at 15:50, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>
> > That's it.  They need 300dpi.  Or close, I suppose, as I can get it.
> >
> > Rocky
> >
>
> It's very easy to set to any value you  want with Irfanview.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
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> http://www.lexacorp.com.pg
> Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support.
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Apr 15 19:22:52 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 17:22:52 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Deleted response:  Reference sub-subform from subform?
In-Reply-To: <410-22004441523553543@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIIELGCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Christopher:

Here it is:
http://www.databaseadvisors.com/newletters/newsletter032004/0310ReferenceGui
de/SyntaxForSubs.htm (watch for wrap)

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Christopher
Hawkins
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:06 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Deleted response: Reference sub-subform from subform?


I'm so sorry, but I accidentall deleted the responses I got on my
issue with how to reference a sub-sub form from within a sub form.

Can anyone who responded please re-send?  Thanks.

-Christopher-




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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Apr 15 21:54:20 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 19:54:20 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
References: <407FA063.21112.34A470@localhost>
	<01de01c42345$12358730$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
	<007d01c4234a$0dae5f20$dd2f0a44@bcsrkeext6137>
Message-ID: <023301c4235e$1dc738f0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Dave:

Thanks.  Got it.  Made it 300 dpi and sent it off.  I'll find out if it's
acceptable tomorrow.
It's for a magazine called Tool and Moldmaking - www.tool-moldmaking.com.

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Sharpe" <DaveSharpe2 at cox.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


> Rocky
>
> I have it, but haven't used it to
> do this. You might try the following
>
> While You have the image on screen
> Image ->Resize\Resample has a setting
> for DPI, try setting before saving.
>
> Dave
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 7:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
> Stuart:
>
> I just used it to capture and send the jpg but I couldn't see any way to
set
> the dpi.  Help wasn't.  Do you recall how it's done?
>
> TIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 3:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
> > On 15 Apr 2004 at 15:50, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
> >
> > > That's it.  They need 300dpi.  Or close, I suppose, as I can get it.
> > >
> > > Rocky
> > >
> >
> > It's very easy to set to any value you  want with Irfanview.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- 
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> > http://www.lexacorp.com.pg
> > Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support.
> >
> >
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Apr 15 21:54:48 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 19:54:48 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
References: <407f36e6.1c3.110e9.1392661946@global.net.pg>
Message-ID: <023b01c4235e$2eac2c70$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Done.  And done.

Thank you.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stuart McLachlan" <lexacorp at global.net.pg>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


> >
> > Stuart:
> >
> > I just used it to capture and send the jpg but I couldn't
> > see any way to set the dpi.  Help wasn't.  Do you recall
> > how it's done?
> >
>
> Go to "Image - Resize/Resample" and change the setting in
> "Set new size - DPI"
>
> or
>
> Got to  "Image - Information" and set it in that screen.
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From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 15 22:41:07 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 23:41:07 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K/03/XP:  Make a form "dissolve" into view?
References: <184670-2200445160265558@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <001501c42364$a6c979a0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

Chris
...I use a some animated forms to make users pay attention but I've never
faded one in or out.
...however, I do have in my code library some code that was posted here
about three years ago that supposedly came from MS ...I've never got around
to trying it but I'll repost it below and maybe it will give you what you
need:
__________________________________________________________

This type simple adjusts the colour slowly while reducing the form's width
and height down to 0 before unloading the form. This is all done through a
for-next loop. (form should be set to auto-center.)

The preferred method is to adjust the current forms transparency from solid
to invisible before unloading the same. Here is a copy of the code from MS
technical help.

'In a module...
Option Explicit

Private Declare Function GetWindowLong Lib "user32" Alias _
   "GetWindowLongA" (ByVal hwnd As Long, ByVal nIndex As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function SetWindowLong Lib "user32" Alias _
   "SetWindowLongA" (ByVal hwnd As Long, ByVal nIndex As Long, _
   ByVal dwNewLong As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function SetLayeredWindowAttributes Lib "user32" _
   (ByVal hwnd As Long, ByVal crey As Byte, ByVal bAlpha As Byte, _
   ByVal dwFlags As Long) As Long

private Const GWL_EXSTYLE = (-20)
Private Const WS_EX_LAYERED = &H80000
Private Const WS_EX_TRANSPARENT = &H20&
Private Const LWA_ALPHA = &H2&

public sub Transparentcy(bTrans as byte, frmWhatever as form)
  Dim lOldStyle As Long

  with frmWhatever
    lOldStyle = GetWindowLong(.hwnd, GWL_EXSTYLE)
    SetWindowLong .hwnd, GWL_EXSTYLE, lOldStyle Or WS_EX_LAYERED
    SetLayeredWindowAttributes .hwnd, 0, bTrans, LWA_ALPHA
  end with

end sub

'In your form... something like this. (haven't tested.)
Private Sub Form_UnLoad()
 dim i as byte

 for i = 255 to 1 step -5
  Transparentcy i, me
 next

End Sub

The above code work great but you have to have the latest copy of the
User32.dll. Greater than 4.0
_________________________________________________________

...hth ...and if you do make it work, I'd certainly like to see a sample mdb
posted.

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christopher Hawkins" <clh at christopherhawkins.com>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 8:26 PM
Subject: [AccessD] A2K/03/XP: Make a form "dissolve" into view?


> OK, here's a weird one.
>
> I'm doing fit and polish work on one of my projects.  I thought of
> something that might be fun to code, seeing as I'm ahead of schedule.
>
>
> It would be a nice bit of eye candy to have the splash screen
> dissolve or fade into view instead of just popping open as Access/VB
> forms tend to do.  In essence, the form would open with 100%
> transparency and incrementally decrease transparency until it was a
> solid form.  The whole fade (actually, it's the opposite of fade,
> what do you call that?) should only take a second or two.
>
> Has anyone ever done anything like this in Access?  I've seen VB apps
> that do this, but never an app I was able to get the source to, so I
> don't even know where to start.
>
> -Christopher-
>
>
>
>
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Apr 15 22:44:35 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:44:35 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Using TransferDatabase to link table from password
	protectd db
References: <OFEAD4A8D1.CB964D3A-ON86256E77.006DCA7F-86256E77.006E2BCB@us.bank-dns.com>
Message-ID: <407F56A3.7050805@shaw.ca>

There is no direct way to do this. I have heard of someone doing it this 
way via ODBC

DoCmd.TransferDatabase acLink, "ODBC Database", "ODBC;DSN=" & odbcname1 
& ";UID=" & user
& ";PWD=" & pass, acTable, "MyTable", "MyTable"

Or you can try it this way

 Public Function ImportDb(strPath As String) As Boolean
 Dim db As Database 'Database to import
 Dim td As TableDef 'Tabledefs in db
Dim strTDef As String 'Name of table to import

 'Open database which contains objects to import.
    Set db = DBEngine.Workspaces(0).OpenDatabase(strPath, False, False, 
"MS Access;PWD=<Your  password>")
  'Import tables from specified Access database.
    For Each td In db.TableDefs
    strTDef = td.Name
  If Left(strTDef, 4) <> "MSys" Then
   DoCmd.TransferDatabase acImport, "Microsoft Access", strPath, 
acTable, strTDef, strTDef, False
  End If
  Next

End Function

jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com wrote:

>I have the following code in a database.  Works fine if there is no
>password on the database.  However I need to add a password to the database
>the is being linked to.  How can I modify the code so that it accepts a
>password and does not prompt the user for one?
>
>
>Sub linkdatatable(mytable As String)
>
>    'Link in tables for query
>    If IsLinked(mytable) = False Then
>        DoCmd.TransferDatabase acLink, "Microsoft Access", GetDataFile,
>acTable, mytable, mytable, False
>    End If
>End Sub
>
>
>TIA
>
>
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Apr 15 23:18:43 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 21:18:43 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Dr Watson Errors on Broadband connection
References: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF407AD81CA@xlivmbx12.aig.com>
Message-ID: <407F5EA3.9020702@shaw.ca>

Heenan, Lambert wrote:

>X-Posted to Access-L and Access-D
>
>I have an Access97 database, split FE/BE. The BE resides on a network drive,
>and the FE is on the user's local C drive and it is an MDE file that
>references a library MDE that is also on the network. All references use the
>full UNC path to the files, not mapped drives.
>
>I have a user who has no trouble when he's in the office docked and
>connected to the LAN. The database also works fine when he's at a remote
>location that has a dedicated T1 line into our LAN.
>
>However, when he tries to access the database, using the exact same
>computer, but connected to the LAN via his cable modem and our VPN s/w he
>finds that Access crashes, giving a Dr. Watson error before any sign of the
>application appears on screen. 
>
>It's one of those "Exception access violation (0xc0000005), Address
>0c651503f7" type Dr. Watsons that one typically sees if an MDE application
>tries to reference an MDE library that has been modified and recompiled. If
>you don't recompile the client MDE you get this type of Dr. Watson.
>
>The only trouble is the library has not been recompiled recently.
>
>Any ideas any one????
>
>Lambert 
>  
>

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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Fri Apr 16 05:13:44 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 10:13:44 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] VxD errors (Cross-posted to dba and dba-Tech)
Message-ID: <20040416091342.661F924C821@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Can anyone recommend a good tool for solving a VxD error on W98, preferably
free? It's happening on a couple of laptops as they close down - goes to
Windows splash, waits a couple of seconds then blue screen with a VxD error.
Any suggestions welcome. There are a number of debugging tools which come up
on the net when searching on this subject, but I'd like a recommendation.

I've cross-posted to dba and dba-tech to pick up as many suggestions as
possible, but it'd be good if you could reply either to dba-Tech or direct
to me, as I'm conscious it's not an Access issue.

Thanks.

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr 16 05:01:38 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 12:01:38 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
In-Reply-To: <000a01c4233f$f2bc6040$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
References: <017f01c42328$86d422d0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
	<000a01c4233f$f2bc6040$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
Message-ID: <5510887966.20040416120138@cactus.dk>

Hi Rocky

For the records - as you have sent your picture - William and I can
agree on this. Jpeg is not a first format except for "party photos",
and it is awful for screenshots where crisp straight lines and right
angles are distinct elements. 

Bitmap is fine but - if you can do with 256 colours - GIF is ideal for
screenshots with large areas of plain colours as this format is
compressed without loss of image quality.

Downgrading the picture should be left for him/her preparing the image
for the magazine.

If a jpeg is mandatory, note that most image programs can convert to
jpg with zero loss at the cost of a much larger file size.

/gustav


> ...don't use any program that initially captures your screen as a jpeg ...I
> won't go into the details here but when you save an image as a jpeg you are
> using a lossy algorithm that throws away portions of the graphic ...its the
> nature of the beast ...



From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr 16 04:41:37 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 11:41:37 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox contents
In-Reply-To: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C138357@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
References: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C138357@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
Message-ID: <1339687169.20040416114137@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

> I have a list box with over 130 items all rows are distinct but a few columns are duplicates.  The ListBox is sorted on two text fields which puts the ID number out of sequence.  The ComboBox sorts
> and "Groups By" duplicate columns.  What I want to do is use the ComboBox to jump to the first instance of one of the duplicate columns.

> e.g.

> ID      CourseName      City
> 135     CCP             EC
> 90      DIS             EC
> 87      DIS             MP
> 18      DOC             CD
> 17      DOC             SR
> 55      DSC M           AL
> 57      DSC M           EC
> 43      DSC M           MP
> 28      DSC M           SF
> 3       DSC M           SR

> What I want is:
> 135     CCP             EC
> 90      DIS             EC
> 18      DOC             CD
> 55      DSC M           AL
> 3       DSC M           SR

> What I get is:
> 135     CCP             EC
> 87      DIS             MP
> 17      DOC             SR
> 3       DSC M           SR

> What needs to be done to what the desired results?

As Drew notes, you'll have to pick the sorted values for ID and City
for each CourseName.
Two subqueries can be used for this:

<SQL>

  SELECT
    (SELECT
        TOP 1 ID
      FROM
        tblCourses AS aliC
      WHERE
        aliC.CourseName = tblCourses.CourseName
      ORDER BY
        City,
        ID DESC;) AS TopID,
    CourseName,
    (SELECT
        TOP 1 City
      FROM
        tblCourses AS aliC
      WHERE
        aliC.CourseName = tblCourses.CourseName
      ORDER BY
        City,
        ID DESC;) AS TopCity
  FROM
    tblCourses
  GROUP BY
    CourseName;

</SQL>

Have fun!

/gustav



From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Fri Apr 16 06:34:06 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 11:34:06 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] VxD errors (Cross-posted to dba and dba-Tech)
Message-ID: <20040416103404.0C3B7251ADE@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Sorry. Duff info. It's a W2000 machine.
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To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>,
@smtp.nildram.co.uk <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] VxD errors (Cross-posted to dba and dba-Tech)
Date: 16/04/04 09:20

>
> Can anyone recommend a good tool for solving a VxD error on W98,
preferably
> free? It's happening on a couple of laptops as they close down - goes to
> Windows splash, waits a couple of seconds then blue screen with a VxD
error.
> Any suggestions welcome. There are a number of debugging tools which come
up
> on the net when searching on this subject, but I'd like a recommendation.
>
> I've cross-posted to dba and dba-tech to pick up as many suggestions as
> possible, but it'd be good if you could reply either to dba-Tech or direct
> to me, as I'm conscious it's not an Access issue.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>
>
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Fri Apr 16 07:36:12 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 12:36:12 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] VxD errors (Cross-posted to dba and dba-Tech)
Message-ID: <20040416113610.40CF124E530@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

B******s. Am being given runaround here. It IS a W98 machine after all.
Sorreeeee.

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To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>,
@smtp.nildram.co.uk <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] VxD errors (Cross-posted to dba and dba-Tech)
Date: 16/04/04 09:20

>
> Can anyone recommend a good tool for solving a VxD error on W98,
preferably
> free? It's happening on a couple of laptops as they close down - goes to
> Windows splash, waits a couple of seconds then blue screen with a VxD
error.
> Any suggestions welcome. There are a number of debugging tools which come
up
> on the net when searching on this subject, but I'd like a recommendation.
>
> I've cross-posted to dba and dba-tech to pick up as many suggestions as
> possible, but it'd be good if you could reply either to dba-Tech or direct
> to me, as I'm conscious it's not an Access issue.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>
>
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From JHewson at karta.com  Fri Apr 16 07:12:16 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 07:12:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox contents
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C138359@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

Thanks, Drew and Gustav for responding.
I tried Max, but sometimes the ID I need is in the middle of the IDs.
I didn't think about using Top, I'll try that.

thanks again.
Jim 



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 4:42 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox
contents


Hi Jim

> I have a list box with over 130 items all rows are distinct but a few columns are duplicates.  The ListBox is sorted on two text fields which puts the ID number out of sequence.  The ComboBox sorts
> and "Groups By" duplicate columns.  What I want to do is use the ComboBox to jump to the first instance of one of the duplicate columns.

> e.g.

> ID      CourseName      City
> 135     CCP             EC
> 90      DIS             EC
> 87      DIS             MP
> 18      DOC             CD
> 17      DOC             SR
> 55      DSC M           AL
> 57      DSC M           EC
> 43      DSC M           MP
> 28      DSC M           SF
> 3       DSC M           SR

> What I want is:
> 135     CCP             EC
> 90      DIS             EC
> 18      DOC             CD
> 55      DSC M           AL
> 3       DSC M           SR

> What I get is:
> 135     CCP             EC
> 87      DIS             MP
> 17      DOC             SR
> 3       DSC M           SR

> What needs to be done to what the desired results?

As Drew notes, you'll have to pick the sorted values for ID and City
for each CourseName.
Two subqueries can be used for this:

<SQL>

  SELECT
    (SELECT
        TOP 1 ID
      FROM
        tblCourses AS aliC
      WHERE
        aliC.CourseName = tblCourses.CourseName
      ORDER BY
        City,
        ID DESC;) AS TopID,
    CourseName,
    (SELECT
        TOP 1 City
      FROM
        tblCourses AS aliC
      WHERE
        aliC.CourseName = tblCourses.CourseName
      ORDER BY
        City,
        ID DESC;) AS TopCity
  FROM
    tblCourses
  GROUP BY
    CourseName;

</SQL>

Have fun!

/gustav

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Apr 16 10:23:07 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 08:23:07 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
References: <017f01c42328$86d422d0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
	<000a01c4233f$f2bc6040$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
Message-ID: <00da01c423c6$b84ac0a0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

You should make this into an article.

Thanks to everyone who helped.  I eventually used Irfanview which looks like
a very complete program.  Just got a note from the publisher - the jpg is
fine.  Of course, in the magazine it's going to be probably no bigger than
2" x 2"

Regards,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


> ...don't use any program that initially captures your screen as a jpeg
...I
> won't go into the details here but when you save an image as a jpeg you
are
> using a lossy algorithm that throws away portions of the graphic ...its
the
> nature of the beast ...in order to give them the high quality jpeg they
> need, start with a decent graphics program that lets you capture the image
> in a high quality, uncompressed format to begin with ...Photoshop and
> paintshoppro are the mainstream programs ...I personally use paintshoppro
> (www.jasc.com) ...set your screen resolution to the highest resolution
your
> graphics card can support and make sure your image capture area is clean
and
> clear at that resolution ...capture the image and save it into un
> uncompressed format, preferably the native format of your graphics program
> ...in paintshoppro that would give you an image with a .pspimage file tag
> ...using that image you can do all sorts of image enhancements to make
your
> saved image look better ...then resize it to 300dpi ...if you started at a
> much lower screen resolution you might wind up with too small an image at
> this point ...once the image is sized/cropped/enhanced just as you'd like
to
> see it, use your graphics program's feature that optimizes it and saves it
> as a jpeg ...use zero compression (even though the jpeg will still have
some
> inherent image quality loss) and make sure that you use the comparison
> feature to ensure minimal visible loss of image quality in the resulting
> file.
>
> ...now you have a decent sized jpeg at the desired dpi that is the best
that
> you can present ...hth :)
>
> William Hindman
> "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
> a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:30 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it to
be
> 300dpi.
>
> What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
> -- 
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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Fri Apr 16 11:42:02 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 11:42:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
Message-ID: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE517@TAPPEEXCH01>

By far, the absolute best format for screenshots is PNG.  Near-infinite
color range (handles 32-bit palettes with ease), lossless compression, and
tiny file size.

Unfortunately, it is open-source based so it hasn't made it to the
mainstream like other more popular formats (GIF, JPG).

I wrote a global error handler that automatically grabs a full screen shot
of the users' workstation upon app failure and stores it as a PNG on the
network.  Files range between 8KB and 25KB!


-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:23 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot

You should make this into an article.

Thanks to everyone who helped.  I eventually used Irfanview which looks like
a very complete program.  Just got a note from the publisher - the jpg is
fine.  Of course, in the magazine it's going to be probably no bigger than
2" x 2"

Regards,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


> ...don't use any program that initially captures your screen as a jpeg
...I
> won't go into the details here but when you save an image as a jpeg you
are
> using a lossy algorithm that throws away portions of the graphic ...its
the
> nature of the beast ...in order to give them the high quality jpeg they
> need, start with a decent graphics program that lets you capture the image
> in a high quality, uncompressed format to begin with ...Photoshop and
> paintshoppro are the mainstream programs ...I personally use paintshoppro
> (www.jasc.com) ...set your screen resolution to the highest resolution
your
> graphics card can support and make sure your image capture area is clean
and
> clear at that resolution ...capture the image and save it into un
> uncompressed format, preferably the native format of your graphics program
> ...in paintshoppro that would give you an image with a .pspimage file tag
> ...using that image you can do all sorts of image enhancements to make
your
> saved image look better ...then resize it to 300dpi ...if you started at a
> much lower screen resolution you might wind up with too small an image at
> this point ...once the image is sized/cropped/enhanced just as you'd like
to
> see it, use your graphics program's feature that optimizes it and saves it
> as a jpeg ...use zero compression (even though the jpeg will still have
some
> inherent image quality loss) and make sure that you use the comparison
> feature to ensure minimal visible loss of image quality in the resulting
> file.
>
> ...now you have a decent sized jpeg at the desired dpi that is the best
that
> you can present ...hth :)
>
> William Hindman
> "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
> a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:30 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it to
be
> 300dpi.
>
> What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>

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From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Fri Apr 16 11:47:48 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 12:47:48 -0400
Subject: Error Handler was (RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot)
Message-ID: <20040416164744.WAWY29662.tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net@mxmta.bellnexxia.net>

> From: Brett Barabash <BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com>

> I wrote a global error handler that automatically grabs a full screen shot
> of the users' workstation upon app failure and stores it as a PNG on the
> network.  Files range between 8KB and 25KB!

Would yuou mind sharing?? Please???

Don't make me beg. It's not pretty :)

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Unfortunately common sense isn't so common!



From Subscriptions at servicexp.com  Fri Apr 16 11:51:42 2004
From: Subscriptions at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 12:51:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
In-Reply-To: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE517@TAPPEEXCH01>
Message-ID: <GPEGJHKJCEPGJIEIOEOOMEEBDLAA.Subscriptions@servicexp.com>


 Me too, Me too. Pleaaaaase.... :-)

Robert Gracie
www.servicexp.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 12:42 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


By far, the absolute best format for screenshots is PNG.  Near-infinite
color range (handles 32-bit palettes with ease), lossless compression, and
tiny file size.

Unfortunately, it is open-source based so it hasn't made it to the
mainstream like other more popular formats (GIF, JPG).

I wrote a global error handler that automatically grabs a full screen shot
of the users' workstation upon app failure and stores it as a PNG on the
network.  Files range between 8KB and 25KB!


-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:23 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot

You should make this into an article.

Thanks to everyone who helped.  I eventually used Irfanview which looks like
a very complete program.  Just got a note from the publisher - the jpg is
fine.  Of course, in the magazine it's going to be probably no bigger than
2" x 2"

Regards,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


> ...don't use any program that initially captures your screen as a jpeg
...I
> won't go into the details here but when you save an image as a jpeg you
are
> using a lossy algorithm that throws away portions of the graphic ...its
the
> nature of the beast ...in order to give them the high quality jpeg they
> need, start with a decent graphics program that lets you capture the image
> in a high quality, uncompressed format to begin with ...Photoshop and
> paintshoppro are the mainstream programs ...I personally use paintshoppro
> (www.jasc.com) ...set your screen resolution to the highest resolution
your
> graphics card can support and make sure your image capture area is clean
and
> clear at that resolution ...capture the image and save it into un
> uncompressed format, preferably the native format of your graphics program
> ...in paintshoppro that would give you an image with a .pspimage file tag
> ...using that image you can do all sorts of image enhancements to make
your
> saved image look better ...then resize it to 300dpi ...if you started at a
> much lower screen resolution you might wind up with too small an image at
> this point ...once the image is sized/cropped/enhanced just as you'd like
to
> see it, use your graphics program's feature that optimizes it and saves it
> as a jpeg ...use zero compression (even though the jpeg will still have
some
> inherent image quality loss) and make sure that you use the comparison
> feature to ensure minimal visible loss of image quality in the resulting
> file.
>
> ...now you have a decent sized jpeg at the desired dpi that is the best
that
> you can present ...hth :)
>
> William Hindman
> "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
> a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:30 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it to
be
> 300dpi.
>
> What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>

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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Fri Apr 16 11:55:28 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 11:55:28 -0500
Subject: Error Handler was (RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot)
Message-ID: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE518@TAPPEEXCH01>

The screenshot portion is fairly simple.  I use the Windows BitBlt API to
copy the screen contents to a memory heap.

The PNG portion is a little trickier.  I purchased the ImgSource dll from
Smaller Animals software (www.smalleranimals.com), which outputs to PNG (as
well as a large host of other formats).

As far as the global error handling goes, I created a global Sub called
ErrorHandler that is stored in a mda file referenced by all of my projects.
I use an add-in similar to John's to add the On Error lines to all of my
routines.

I'll see what I can dig up and share...
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Carbonnell [mailto:carbonnb at sympatico.ca]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 11:48 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Error Handler was (RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot)

> From: Brett Barabash <BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com>

> I wrote a global error handler that automatically grabs a full screen shot
> of the users' workstation upon app failure and stores it as a PNG on the
> network.  Files range between 8KB and 25KB!

Would yuou mind sharing?? Please???

Don't make me beg. It's not pretty :)

--
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Unfortunately common sense isn't so common!

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From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr 16 12:30:52 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 13:30:52 -0400
Subject: Error Handler was (RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot)
References: <20040416164744.WAWY29662.tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net@mxmta.bellnexxia.net>
Message-ID: <00b801c423d8$90ef0c70$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...I'll beg if that's what it takes ...never even thought of doing something
like that ...what a truly great idea!

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at sympatico.ca>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 12:47 PM
Subject: Error Handler was (RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot)


> > From: Brett Barabash <BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com>
>
> > I wrote a global error handler that automatically grabs a full screen
shot
> > of the users' workstation upon app failure and stores it as a PNG on the
> > network.  Files range between 8KB and 25KB!
>
> Would yuou mind sharing?? Please???
>
> Don't make me beg. It's not pretty :)
>
> --
> Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
> Unfortunately common sense isn't so common!
>
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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Fri Apr 16 13:00:46 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 12:00:46 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Still having a subform problem...
Message-ID: <251230-22004451618046164@christopherhawkins.com>

..although I looked at this page:

http://www.databaseadvisors.com/newletters/newsletter032004/0310Refere
nceGuide/SyntaxForSubs.htm

The syntax just isn't working.  So, to restate the problem:

The Overview:

frmMain, which has a subform control named sFrm. sFrm's SourceObject
= "frmSearch"

frmSearch, which has a button named cmdSearch and a subform control
named sFrmResults. sFrmResults' SourceObject = "frmResults".

frmResults, which has a bunch of fields like FirstName, LastName,
etc. Typical customer database stuff. frmResults displays as a
datasheet.

The Problem:

In the code behind cmdSearch, there is a line that tries to re-order
the columns in the datasheet contained in sFrmResults. That code
looks like this:

[sFrmResults].Form(sSearchField).ColumnOrder = 1

That line of code tries to execute but instead yields this error:

Method 'Form' of object '_Subform' failed.

Now, this is also totally vanilla, but for some reason it just won't
work. I tried pulling frmSearch out of frmMain so that the search
form was it's own form instead of being a subform, and this line
worked just fine then. Unfortunately, my client will not accep that
change as a solution; frmSearch must remain a subform. 

But that line just does not work when frmSearch is a subform.

-C-






From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca  Fri Apr 16 13:25:05 2004
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 14:25:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Still having a subform problem...
Message-ID: <s07fecd9.058@cbc.ca>

Since the command button and the sub form are on the same subform, try

Me.Form(sSearchField).ColumnOrder = 1

Bryan Carbonnell
bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca

>>> clh at christopherhawkins.com 16-Apr-04 2:00:46 PM >>>
..although I looked at this page:

http://www.databaseadvisors.com/newletters/newsletter032004/0310Refere

nceGuide/SyntaxForSubs.htm

The syntax just isn't working.  So, to restate the problem:

The Overview:

frmMain, which has a subform control named sFrm. sFrm's SourceObject
= "frmSearch"

frmSearch, which has a button named cmdSearch and a subform control
named sFrmResults. sFrmResults' SourceObject = "frmResults".

frmResults, which has a bunch of fields like FirstName, LastName,
etc. Typical customer database stuff. frmResults displays as a
datasheet.

The Problem:

In the code behind cmdSearch, there is a line that tries to re-order
the columns in the datasheet contained in sFrmResults. That code
looks like this:

[sFrmResults].Form(sSearchField).ColumnOrder = 1

That line of code tries to execute but instead yields this error:

Method 'Form' of object '_Subform' failed.

Now, this is also totally vanilla, but for some reason it just won't
work. I tried pulling frmSearch out of frmMain so that the search
form was it's own form instead of being a subform, and this line
worked just fine then. Unfortunately, my client will not accep that
change as a solution; frmSearch must remain a subform. 

But that line just does not work when frmSearch is a subform.



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Apr 16 13:27:35 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 11:27:35 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
References: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE517@TAPPEEXCH01>
Message-ID: <017801c423e0$7d616d80$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Brett:

Would it be a problem if you wanted to send a file to someone?  Is PNG
format supported by Windows or any of the popular viewers?

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


> By far, the absolute best format for screenshots is PNG.  Near-infinite
> color range (handles 32-bit palettes with ease), lossless compression, and
> tiny file size.
>
> Unfortunately, it is open-source based so it hasn't made it to the
> mainstream like other more popular formats (GIF, JPG).
>
> I wrote a global error handler that automatically grabs a full screen shot
> of the users' workstation upon app failure and stores it as a PNG on the
> network.  Files range between 8KB and 25KB!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:23 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
> You should make this into an article.
>
> Thanks to everyone who helped.  I eventually used Irfanview which looks
like
> a very complete program.  Just got a note from the publisher - the jpg is
> fine.  Of course, in the magazine it's going to be probably no bigger than
> 2" x 2"
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
> > ...don't use any program that initially captures your screen as a jpeg
> ...I
> > won't go into the details here but when you save an image as a jpeg you
> are
> > using a lossy algorithm that throws away portions of the graphic ...its
> the
> > nature of the beast ...in order to give them the high quality jpeg they
> > need, start with a decent graphics program that lets you capture the
image
> > in a high quality, uncompressed format to begin with ...Photoshop and
> > paintshoppro are the mainstream programs ...I personally use
paintshoppro
> > (www.jasc.com) ...set your screen resolution to the highest resolution
> your
> > graphics card can support and make sure your image capture area is clean
> and
> > clear at that resolution ...capture the image and save it into un
> > uncompressed format, preferably the native format of your graphics
program
> > ...in paintshoppro that would give you an image with a .pspimage file
tag
> > ...using that image you can do all sorts of image enhancements to make
> your
> > saved image look better ...then resize it to 300dpi ...if you started at
a
> > much lower screen resolution you might wind up with too small an image
at
> > this point ...once the image is sized/cropped/enhanced just as you'd
like
> to
> > see it, use your graphics program's feature that optimizes it and saves
it
> > as a jpeg ...use zero compression (even though the jpeg will still have
> some
> > inherent image quality loss) and make sure that you use the comparison
> > feature to ensure minimal visible loss of image quality in the resulting
> > file.
> >
> > ...now you have a decent sized jpeg at the desired dpi that is the best
> that
> > you can present ...hth :)
> >
> > William Hindman
> > "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
> > a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> > To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:30 PM
> > Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
> >
> >
> > Dear List:
> >
> > A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it
to
> be
> > 300dpi.
> >
> > What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?
> >
> > MTIA,
> >
> > Rocky Smolin
> > Beach Access Software
> > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> >
>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr 16 13:30:15 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 20:30:15 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Still having a subform problem...
In-Reply-To: <251230-22004451618046164@christopherhawkins.com>
References: <251230-22004451618046164@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <2741404406.20040416203015@cactus.dk>

Hi Christopher

> frmMain, which has a subform control named sFrm. sFrm's SourceObject
> = "frmSearch"

> frmSearch, which has a button named cmdSearch and a subform control
> named sFrmResults. sFrmResults' SourceObject = "frmResults".

> frmResults, which has a bunch of fields like FirstName, LastName,
> etc. Typical customer database stuff. frmResults displays as a
> datasheet.

> The Problem:

> In the code behind cmdSearch, there is a line that tries to re-order
> the columns in the datasheet contained in sFrmResults. That code
> looks like this:

> [sFrmResults].Form(sSearchField).ColumnOrder = 1

How about

  Me!sFrmResults.Form!sSearchField.ColumnOrder = 1

/gustav



From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Fri Apr 16 13:34:07 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 13:34:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
Message-ID: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE519@TAPPEEXCH01>

Most Windows programs support PNG (Adobe Photoshop, Microsoft Photo Editor,
Internet Explorer, Irfanview, etc).  It just hasn't made it to the industry
standard realm the same way as other formats have.  (Magazines asking for
JPG files instead of PNGs for screenshots, for example).

I think you'd be hard pressed to find a current graphics file viewer that
doesn't support it.


-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot

Brett:

Would it be a problem if you wanted to send a file to someone?  Is PNG
format supported by Windows or any of the popular viewers?

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


> By far, the absolute best format for screenshots is PNG.  Near-infinite
> color range (handles 32-bit palettes with ease), lossless compression, and
> tiny file size.
>
> Unfortunately, it is open-source based so it hasn't made it to the
> mainstream like other more popular formats (GIF, JPG).
>
> I wrote a global error handler that automatically grabs a full screen shot
> of the users' workstation upon app failure and stores it as a PNG on the
> network.  Files range between 8KB and 25KB!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:23 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
> You should make this into an article.
>
> Thanks to everyone who helped.  I eventually used Irfanview which looks
like
> a very complete program.  Just got a note from the publisher - the jpg is
> fine.  Of course, in the magazine it's going to be probably no bigger than
> 2" x 2"
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
> > ...don't use any program that initially captures your screen as a jpeg
> ...I
> > won't go into the details here but when you save an image as a jpeg you
> are
> > using a lossy algorithm that throws away portions of the graphic ...its
> the
> > nature of the beast ...in order to give them the high quality jpeg they
> > need, start with a decent graphics program that lets you capture the
image
> > in a high quality, uncompressed format to begin with ...Photoshop and
> > paintshoppro are the mainstream programs ...I personally use
paintshoppro
> > (www.jasc.com) ...set your screen resolution to the highest resolution
> your
> > graphics card can support and make sure your image capture area is clean
> and
> > clear at that resolution ...capture the image and save it into un
> > uncompressed format, preferably the native format of your graphics
program
> > ...in paintshoppro that would give you an image with a .pspimage file
tag
> > ...using that image you can do all sorts of image enhancements to make
> your
> > saved image look better ...then resize it to 300dpi ...if you started at
a
> > much lower screen resolution you might wind up with too small an image
at
> > this point ...once the image is sized/cropped/enhanced just as you'd
like
> to
> > see it, use your graphics program's feature that optimizes it and saves
it
> > as a jpeg ...use zero compression (even though the jpeg will still have
> some
> > inherent image quality loss) and make sure that you use the comparison
> > feature to ensure minimal visible loss of image quality in the resulting
> > file.
> >
> > ...now you have a decent sized jpeg at the desired dpi that is the best
> that
> > you can present ...hth :)
> >
> > William Hindman
> > "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
> > a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> > To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:30 PM
> > Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
> >
> >
> > Dear List:
> >
> > A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it
to
> be
> > 300dpi.
> >
> > What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?
> >
> > MTIA,
> >
> > Rocky Smolin
> > Beach Access Software
> > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> >
>
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From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca  Fri Apr 16 13:39:16 2004
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 14:39:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
Message-ID: <s07ff020.031@cbc.ca>

I'm not Brett, but that's never stopped me before :-)

IE 5+ will allow you to open PNG. Most major image editing and viewing
software also support PNGs. As does the Microsoft Photo Editor that is
shipped with Win2K.

So it's fairly widely supported in the modern OSes and applications.

Bryan Carbonnell
bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca

>>> bchacc at san.rr.com 16-Apr-04 2:27:35 PM >>>
Brett:

Would it be a problem if you wanted to send a file to someone?  Is PNG
format supported by Windows or any of the popular viewers?

Rocky




From john at winhaven.net  Fri Apr 16 14:22:52 2004
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 14:22:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
In-Reply-To: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE519@TAPPEEXCH01>
Message-ID: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKIEEAAFGAA.john@winhaven.net>

Probably the biggest drawback to .png is that there was already a widely
established web of .gif and .jpg images. I believe that is the major cause
of the non-acceptance of it. Plus file size still rules for WebPages and
.png rarely (if ever) makes for a smaller file than jpg or gif. Adobe has
great little utility for optimizes images for the web that lets you compare
formats and parameters. I've never had .png come as best of the lot.

And although it isn't the lossy compression algorithm that jpg is it also
has to compete with other more established "large file" formats such as tif,
bmp, etc. The GIS industry has gone through mage formats by the dozens
because of their heavy reliance on aerial photography. My first exposure and
unhappiness with jpg - every time a .jpg file is edited and saved its "lossy
algorithm" loses more.

Also .png doesn't do everything it was set out to accomplish in the
beginning - which was basically to replace the .gif with an open source
public domain format. (IIRC .gif is proprietary but was not protected well
enough by its owner for too long so the courts wouldn't accept their lawsuit
claims.)

One more reason is that Microsoft was rather late in adapting their products
to use it. I used to try using .png just because it was open source and had
problems with PowerPoint, Word, etc. I know that limitation is somewhat
history but it was an issue that stymied it.

I wish people would start using it rather than .jpg!

John

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:34 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


Most Windows programs support PNG (Adobe Photoshop, Microsoft Photo Editor,
Internet Explorer, Irfanview, etc).  It just hasn't made it to the industry
standard realm the same way as other formats have.  (Magazines asking for
JPG files instead of PNGs for screenshots, for example).

I think you'd be hard pressed to find a current graphics file viewer that
doesn't support it.


-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot

Brett:

Would it be a problem if you wanted to send a file to someone?  Is PNG
format supported by Windows or any of the popular viewers?

Rocky

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


> By far, the absolute best format for screenshots is PNG.  Near-infinite
> color range (handles 32-bit palettes with ease), lossless compression, and
> tiny file size.
>
> Unfortunately, it is open-source based so it hasn't made it to the
> mainstream like other more popular formats (GIF, JPG).
>
> I wrote a global error handler that automatically grabs a full screen shot
> of the users' workstation upon app failure and stores it as a PNG on the
> network.  Files range between 8KB and 25KB!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:23 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
> You should make this into an article.
>
> Thanks to everyone who helped.  I eventually used Irfanview which looks
like
> a very complete program.  Just got a note from the publisher - the jpg is
> fine.  Of course, in the magazine it's going to be probably no bigger than
> 2" x 2"
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
> > ...don't use any program that initially captures your screen as a jpeg
> ...I
> > won't go into the details here but when you save an image as a jpeg you
> are
> > using a lossy algorithm that throws away portions of the graphic ...its
> the
> > nature of the beast ...in order to give them the high quality jpeg they
> > need, start with a decent graphics program that lets you capture the
image
> > in a high quality, uncompressed format to begin with ...Photoshop and
> > paintshoppro are the mainstream programs ...I personally use
paintshoppro
> > (www.jasc.com) ...set your screen resolution to the highest resolution
> your
> > graphics card can support and make sure your image capture area is clean
> and
> > clear at that resolution ...capture the image and save it into un
> > uncompressed format, preferably the native format of your graphics
program
> > ...in paintshoppro that would give you an image with a .pspimage file
tag
> > ...using that image you can do all sorts of image enhancements to make
> your
> > saved image look better ...then resize it to 300dpi ...if you started at
a
> > much lower screen resolution you might wind up with too small an image
at
> > this point ...once the image is sized/cropped/enhanced just as you'd
like
> to
> > see it, use your graphics program's feature that optimizes it and saves
it
> > as a jpeg ...use zero compression (even though the jpeg will still have
> some
> > inherent image quality loss) and make sure that you use the comparison
> > feature to ensure minimal visible loss of image quality in the resulting
> > file.
> >
> > ...now you have a decent sized jpeg at the desired dpi that is the best
> that
> > you can present ...hth :)
> >
> > William Hindman
> > "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
> > a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> > To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:30 PM
> > Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
> >
> >
> > Dear List:
> >
> > A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it
to
> be
> > 300dpi.
> >
> > What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?
> >
> > MTIA,
> >
> > Rocky Smolin
> > Beach Access Software
> > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> >
>
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From greggs at msn.com  Fri Apr 16 15:41:28 2004
From: greggs at msn.com (Gregg)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 15:41:28 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Dr Watson Errors on Broadband connection
In-Reply-To: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF407AD81CA@xlivmbx12.aig.com>
Message-ID: <MOELIKDOANGCHBBIGOLIGEADECAA.greggs@msn.com>

I have an app with the same problem... with the same no solution.  We're
running Citrix on NT4 and SQl be.  I am using a mapped drive to link to
access and SQL tables.  My Doctor shows up 1 out of 5 times when relinking
but does seem to be worst on some connections than others. I'm wondering if
it is NT4... what are you running?

Gregg Steinbrenner

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:12 PM
To: ACCESS-L Email (E-mail)
Cc: Access-D Email (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Dr Watson Errors on Broadband connection


X-Posted to Access-L and Access-D

I have an Access97 database, split FE/BE. The BE resides on a network drive,
and the FE is on the user's local C drive and it is an MDE file that
references a library MDE that is also on the network. All references use the
full UNC path to the files, not mapped drives.

I have a user who has no trouble when he's in the office docked and
connected to the LAN. The database also works fine when he's at a remote
location that has a dedicated T1 line into our LAN.

However, when he tries to access the database, using the exact same
computer, but connected to the LAN via his cable modem and our VPN s/w he
finds that Access crashes, giving a Dr. Watson error before any sign of the
application appears on screen.

It's one of those "Exception access violation (0xc0000005), Address
0c651503f7" type Dr. Watsons that one typically sees if an MDE application
tries to reference an MDE library that has been modified and recompiled. If
you don't recompile the client MDE you get this type of Dr. Watson.

The only trouble is the library has not been recompiled recently.

Any ideas any one????

Lambert
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Fri Apr 16 16:04:05 2004
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 17:04:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Dr Watson Errors on Broadband connection
Message-ID: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF407AD81D1@xlivmbx12.aig.com>

This is an NT4 box too, but not using Citrix. Like I said it's all just
ticketyboo until he tries to access the Db via his broadband connection at
home????


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Gregg [SMTP:greggs at msn.com]
> Sent:	Friday, April 16, 2004 4:41 PM
> To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject:	RE: [AccessD] Dr Watson Errors on Broadband connection
> 
> I have an app with the same problem... with the same no solution.  We're
> running Citrix on NT4 and SQl be.  I am using a mapped drive to link to
> access and SQL tables.  My Doctor shows up 1 out of 5 times when relinking
> but does seem to be worst on some connections than others. I'm wondering
> if
> it is NT4... what are you running?
> 
> Gregg Steinbrenner
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Heenan,
> Lambert
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:12 PM
> To: ACCESS-L Email (E-mail)
> Cc: Access-D Email (E-mail)
> Subject: [AccessD] Dr Watson Errors on Broadband connection
> 
> 
> X-Posted to Access-L and Access-D
> 
> I have an Access97 database, split FE/BE. The BE resides on a network
> drive,
> and the FE is on the user's local C drive and it is an MDE file that
> references a library MDE that is also on the network. All references use
> the
> full UNC path to the files, not mapped drives.
> 
> I have a user who has no trouble when he's in the office docked and
> connected to the LAN. The database also works fine when he's at a remote
> location that has a dedicated T1 line into our LAN.
> 
> However, when he tries to access the database, using the exact same
> computer, but connected to the LAN via his cable modem and our VPN s/w he
> finds that Access crashes, giving a Dr. Watson error before any sign of
> the
> application appears on screen.
> 
> It's one of those "Exception access violation (0xc0000005), Address
> 0c651503f7" type Dr. Watsons that one typically sees if an MDE application
> tries to reference an MDE library that has been modified and recompiled.
> If
> you don't recompile the client MDE you get this type of Dr. Watson.
> 
> The only trouble is the library has not been recompiled recently.
> 
> Any ideas any one????
> 
> Lambert
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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Fri Apr 16 13:55:05 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 12:55:05 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Still having a subform problem...
Message-ID: <182500-22004451618555222@christopherhawkins.com>

OK, I tried that line and it still errored out.  But it gave me an
idea - I adjusted it slightly, to this:

Me.sFrmResults(sSearchField).ColumnOrder = 1

and it worked.  So thanks for the inspiration!

Now I'm having the same error on this line:

  Me.sFrm.Form.RecordSource = "SELECT * FROM tblCustomer"

I tried re-writing it to be:

  Me.sFrm.RecordSource = "SELECT * FROM tblCustomer"

But it still error s out.  Any ideas on that one?

-Christopher-


---- Original Message ----
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com, 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Still having a subform problem...
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 14:25:05 -0400

>Since the command button and the sub form are on the same subform, 
>try
>
>Me.Form(sSearchField).ColumnOrder = 1
>
>Bryan Carbonnell
>bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca
>
>>>> clh at christopherhawkins.com 16-Apr-04 2:00:46 PM >>>
>..although I looked at this page:
>
>http://www.databaseadvisors.com/newletters/newsletter032004/0310Refer
>e
>
>nceGuide/SyntaxForSubs.htm
>
>The syntax just isn't working.  So, to restate the problem:
>
>The Overview:
>
>frmMain, which has a subform control named sFrm. sFrm's SourceObject
>= "frmSearch"
>
>frmSearch, which has a button named cmdSearch and a subform control
>named sFrmResults. sFrmResults' SourceObject = "frmResults".
>
>frmResults, which has a bunch of fields like FirstName, LastName,
>etc. Typical customer database stuff. frmResults displays as a
>datasheet.
>
>The Problem:
>
>In the code behind cmdSearch, there is a line that tries to re-order
>the columns in the datasheet contained in sFrmResults. That code
>looks like this:
>
>[sFrmResults].Form(sSearchField).ColumnOrder = 1
>
>That line of code tries to execute but instead yields this error:
>
>Method 'Form' of object '_Subform' failed.
>
>Now, this is also totally vanilla, but for some reason it just won't
>work. I tried pulling frmSearch out of frmMain so that the search
>form was it's own form instead of being a subform, and this line
>worked just fine then. Unfortunately, my client will not accep that
>change as a solution; frmSearch must remain a subform. 
>
>But that line just does not work when frmSearch is a subform.
>
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>




From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Apr 16 17:18:05 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 15:18:05 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
References: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKIEEAAFGAA.john@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <40805B9D.5000203@shaw.ca>

Tiff is the standard for records management archivists. It has been 
around 10 years longer than PNG which was a patentless replacement for 
Gif (Unisys). It is also lossless. Adobe has copyright on specifications 
for Tiff. Carries a bit more metadata than png. It is a lot clearer 
displaying straight lines.


John Bartow wrote:

>Probably the biggest drawback to .png is that there was already a widely
>established web of .gif and .jpg images. I believe that is the major cause
>of the non-acceptance of it. Plus file size still rules for WebPages and
>.png rarely (if ever) makes for a smaller file than jpg or gif. Adobe has
>great little utility for optimizes images for the web that lets you compare
>formats and parameters. I've never had .png come as best of the lot.
>
>And although it isn't the lossy compression algorithm that jpg is it also
>has to compete with other more established "large file" formats such as tif,
>bmp, etc. The GIS industry has gone through mage formats by the dozens
>because of their heavy reliance on aerial photography. My first exposure and
>unhappiness with jpg - every time a .jpg file is edited and saved its "lossy
>algorithm" loses more.
>
>Also .png doesn't do everything it was set out to accomplish in the
>beginning - which was basically to replace the .gif with an open source
>public domain format. (IIRC .gif is proprietary but was not protected well
>enough by its owner for too long so the courts wouldn't accept their lawsuit
>claims.)
>
>One more reason is that Microsoft was rather late in adapting their products
>to use it. I used to try using .png just because it was open source and had
>problems with PowerPoint, Word, etc. I know that limitation is somewhat
>history but it was an issue that stymied it.
>
>I wish people would start using it rather than .jpg!
>
>John
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
>Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:34 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
>Most Windows programs support PNG (Adobe Photoshop, Microsoft Photo Editor,
>Internet Explorer, Irfanview, etc).  It just hasn't made it to the industry
>standard realm the same way as other formats have.  (Magazines asking for
>JPG files instead of PNGs for screenshots, for example).
>
>I think you'd be hard pressed to find a current graphics file viewer that
>doesn't support it.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
>Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:28 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>Brett:
>
>Would it be a problem if you wanted to send a file to someone?  Is PNG
>format supported by Windows or any of the popular viewers?
>
>Rocky
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:42 AM
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
>  
>
>>By far, the absolute best format for screenshots is PNG.  Near-infinite
>>color range (handles 32-bit palettes with ease), lossless compression, and
>>tiny file size.
>>
>>Unfortunately, it is open-source based so it hasn't made it to the
>>mainstream like other more popular formats (GIF, JPG).
>>
>>I wrote a global error handler that automatically grabs a full screen shot
>>of the users' workstation upon app failure and stores it as a PNG on the
>>network.  Files range between 8KB and 25KB!
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
>>Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:23 AM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>>
>>You should make this into an article.
>>
>>Thanks to everyone who helped.  I eventually used Irfanview which looks
>>    
>>
>like
>  
>
>>a very complete program.  Just got a note from the publisher - the jpg is
>>fine.  Of course, in the magazine it's going to be probably no bigger than
>>2" x 2"
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Rocky Smolin
>>Beach Access Software
>>http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:18 PM
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>>>...don't use any program that initially captures your screen as a jpeg
>>>      
>>>
>>...I
>>    
>>
>>>won't go into the details here but when you save an image as a jpeg you
>>>      
>>>
>>are
>>    
>>
>>>using a lossy algorithm that throws away portions of the graphic ...its
>>>      
>>>
>>the
>>    
>>
>>>nature of the beast ...in order to give them the high quality jpeg they
>>>need, start with a decent graphics program that lets you capture the
>>>      
>>>
>image
>  
>
>>>in a high quality, uncompressed format to begin with ...Photoshop and
>>>paintshoppro are the mainstream programs ...I personally use
>>>      
>>>
>paintshoppro
>  
>
>>>(www.jasc.com) ...set your screen resolution to the highest resolution
>>>      
>>>
>>your
>>    
>>
>>>graphics card can support and make sure your image capture area is clean
>>>      
>>>
>>and
>>    
>>
>>>clear at that resolution ...capture the image and save it into un
>>>uncompressed format, preferably the native format of your graphics
>>>      
>>>
>program
>  
>
>>>...in paintshoppro that would give you an image with a .pspimage file
>>>      
>>>
>tag
>  
>
>>>...using that image you can do all sorts of image enhancements to make
>>>      
>>>
>>your
>>    
>>
>>>saved image look better ...then resize it to 300dpi ...if you started at
>>>      
>>>
>a
>  
>
>>>much lower screen resolution you might wind up with too small an image
>>>      
>>>
>at
>  
>
>>>this point ...once the image is sized/cropped/enhanced just as you'd
>>>      
>>>
>like
>  
>
>>to
>>    
>>
>>>see it, use your graphics program's feature that optimizes it and saves
>>>      
>>>
>it
>  
>
>>>as a jpeg ...use zero compression (even though the jpeg will still have
>>>      
>>>
>>some
>>    
>>
>>>inherent image quality loss) and make sure that you use the comparison
>>>feature to ensure minimal visible loss of image quality in the resulting
>>>file.
>>>
>>>...now you have a decent sized jpeg at the desired dpi that is the best
>>>      
>>>
>>that
>>    
>>
>>>you can present ...hth :)
>>>
>>>William Hindman
>>>"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
>>>a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>>To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:30 PM
>>>Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>>>
>>>
>>>Dear List:
>>>
>>>A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it
>>>      
>>>
>to
>  
>
>>be
>>    
>>
>>>300dpi.
>>>
>>>What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?
>>>
>>>MTIA,
>>>
>>>Rocky Smolin
>>>Beach Access Software
>>>http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>    
>>
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>>    
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>prohibited.  If
>  
>
>>transmission is incorrect, unclear, or incomplete, please notify the
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>sender
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>>    
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>>from disclosing this information to any other party and is/are required to
>>destroy the information after its stated need has been fulfilled.
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>>sender, except where the sender specifies and with authority,
>>states them to be the views of Tappe Construction Co.
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>is legally privileged. The information is only for the use of the intended
>recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient(s), you
>are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the
>taking
>of any action in regard to the content of this email is strictly prohibited.
>If
>transmission is incorrect, unclear, or incomplete, please notify the sender
>immediately. The authorized recipient(s) of this information is/are
>prohibited
>from disclosing this information to any other party and is/are required to
>destroy the information after its stated need has been fulfilled.
>
>Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual
>sender, except where the sender specifies and with authority,
>states them to be the views of Tappe Construction Co.
>
>This footer also confirms that this email message has been scanned
>for the presence of computer viruses.Scanning of this message and
>addition of this footer is performed by SurfControl E-mail Filter software
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>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr 16 18:44:14 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 19:44:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
References: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKIEEAAFGAA.john@winhaven.net>
	<40805B9D.5000203@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <003b01c4240c$b995db70$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...problem with TIFF is that it requires large files and remains a raster
format ...both of which are potential problems on the net ...when the vector
based SVG format gets fully implemented in more browsers we'll finally have
something that produces both great graphics and small files ...I'm using
some now for IE6 clients and the results are great.

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


> Tiff is the standard for records management archivists. It has been
> around 10 years longer than PNG which was a patentless replacement for
> Gif (Unisys). It is also lossless. Adobe has copyright on specifications
> for Tiff. Carries a bit more metadata than png. It is a lot clearer
> displaying straight lines.
>
>
> John Bartow wrote:
>
> >Probably the biggest drawback to .png is that there was already a widely
> >established web of .gif and .jpg images. I believe that is the major
cause
> >of the non-acceptance of it. Plus file size still rules for WebPages and
> >.png rarely (if ever) makes for a smaller file than jpg or gif. Adobe has
> >great little utility for optimizes images for the web that lets you
compare
> >formats and parameters. I've never had .png come as best of the lot.
> >
> >And although it isn't the lossy compression algorithm that jpg is it also
> >has to compete with other more established "large file" formats such as
tif,
> >bmp, etc. The GIS industry has gone through mage formats by the dozens
> >because of their heavy reliance on aerial photography. My first exposure
and
> >unhappiness with jpg - every time a .jpg file is edited and saved its
"lossy
> >algorithm" loses more.
> >
> >Also .png doesn't do everything it was set out to accomplish in the
> >beginning - which was basically to replace the .gif with an open source
> >public domain format. (IIRC .gif is proprietary but was not protected
well
> >enough by its owner for too long so the courts wouldn't accept their
lawsuit
> >claims.)
> >
> >One more reason is that Microsoft was rather late in adapting their
products
> >to use it. I used to try using .png just because it was open source and
had
> >problems with PowerPoint, Word, etc. I know that limitation is somewhat
> >history but it was an issue that stymied it.
> >
> >I wish people would start using it rather than .jpg!
> >
> >John
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
> >Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:34 PM
> >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
> >
> >
> >Most Windows programs support PNG (Adobe Photoshop, Microsoft Photo
Editor,
> >Internet Explorer, Irfanview, etc).  It just hasn't made it to the
industry
> >standard realm the same way as other formats have.  (Magazines asking for
> >JPG files instead of PNGs for screenshots, for example).
> >
> >I think you'd be hard pressed to find a current graphics file viewer that
> >doesn't support it.
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> >Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:28 PM
> >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> >Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
> >
> >Brett:
> >
> >Would it be a problem if you wanted to send a file to someone?  Is PNG
> >format supported by Windows or any of the popular viewers?
> >
> >Rocky
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
> >To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> ><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:42 AM
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>By far, the absolute best format for screenshots is PNG.  Near-infinite
> >>color range (handles 32-bit palettes with ease), lossless compression,
and
> >>tiny file size.
> >>
> >>Unfortunately, it is open-source based so it hasn't made it to the
> >>mainstream like other more popular formats (GIF, JPG).
> >>
> >>I wrote a global error handler that automatically grabs a full screen
shot
> >>of the users' workstation upon app failure and stores it as a PNG on the
> >>network.  Files range between 8KB and 25KB!
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> >>Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:23 AM
> >>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
> >>
> >>You should make this into an article.
> >>
> >>Thanks to everyone who helped.  I eventually used Irfanview which looks
> >>
> >>
> >like
> >
> >
> >>a very complete program.  Just got a note from the publisher - the jpg
is
> >>fine.  Of course, in the magazine it's going to be probably no bigger
than
> >>2" x 2"
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>Rocky Smolin
> >>Beach Access Software
> >>http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> >>
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
> >>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> >><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >>Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:18 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>...don't use any program that initially captures your screen as a jpeg
> >>>
> >>>
> >>...I
> >>
> >>
> >>>won't go into the details here but when you save an image as a jpeg you
> >>>
> >>>
> >>are
> >>
> >>
> >>>using a lossy algorithm that throws away portions of the graphic ...its
> >>>
> >>>
> >>the
> >>
> >>
> >>>nature of the beast ...in order to give them the high quality jpeg they
> >>>need, start with a decent graphics program that lets you capture the
> >>>
> >>>
> >image
> >
> >
> >>>in a high quality, uncompressed format to begin with ...Photoshop and
> >>>paintshoppro are the mainstream programs ...I personally use
> >>>
> >>>
> >paintshoppro
> >
> >
> >>>(www.jasc.com) ...set your screen resolution to the highest resolution
> >>>
> >>>
> >>your
> >>
> >>
> >>>graphics card can support and make sure your image capture area is
clean
> >>>
> >>>
> >>and
> >>
> >>
> >>>clear at that resolution ...capture the image and save it into un
> >>>uncompressed format, preferably the native format of your graphics
> >>>
> >>>
> >program
> >
> >
> >>>...in paintshoppro that would give you an image with a .pspimage file
> >>>
> >>>
> >tag
> >
> >
> >>>...using that image you can do all sorts of image enhancements to make
> >>>
> >>>
> >>your
> >>
> >>
> >>>saved image look better ...then resize it to 300dpi ...if you started
at
> >>>
> >>>
> >a
> >
> >
> >>>much lower screen resolution you might wind up with too small an image
> >>>
> >>>
> >at
> >
> >
> >>>this point ...once the image is sized/cropped/enhanced just as you'd
> >>>
> >>>
> >like
> >
> >
> >>to
> >>
> >>
> >>>see it, use your graphics program's feature that optimizes it and saves
> >>>
> >>>
> >it
> >
> >
> >>>as a jpeg ...use zero compression (even though the jpeg will still have
> >>>
> >>>
> >>some
> >>
> >>
> >>>inherent image quality loss) and make sure that you use the comparison
> >>>feature to ensure minimal visible loss of image quality in the
resulting
> >>>file.
> >>>
> >>>...now you have a decent sized jpeg at the desired dpi that is the best
> >>>
> >>>
> >>that
> >>
> >>
> >>>you can present ...hth :)
> >>>
> >>>William Hindman
> >>>"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code
is
> >>>a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> >>>To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> >>>Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:30 PM
> >>>Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Dear List:
> >>>
> >>>A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it
> >>>
> >>>
> >to
> >
> >
> >>be
> >>
> >>
> >>>300dpi.
> >>>
> >>>What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?
> >>>
> >>>MTIA,
> >>>
> >>>Rocky Smolin
> >>>Beach Access Software
> >>>http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >>The information in this email may contain confidential information that
> >>is legally privileged. The information is only for the use of the
intended
> >>recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient(s), you
> >>are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the
> >>
> >>
> >taking
> >
> >
> >>of any action in regard to the content of this email is strictly
> >>
> >>
> >prohibited.  If
> >
> >
> >>transmission is incorrect, unclear, or incomplete, please notify the
> >>
> >>
> >sender
> >
> >
> >>immediately. The authorized recipient(s) of this information is/are
> >>
> >>
> >prohibited
> >
> >
> >>from disclosing this information to any other party and is/are required
to
> >>destroy the information after its stated need has been fulfilled.
> >>
> >>Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual
> >>sender, except where the sender specifies and with authority,
> >>states them to be the views of Tappe Construction Co.
> >>
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prohibited.
> >If
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> >immediately. The authorized recipient(s) of this information is/are
> >prohibited
> >from disclosing this information to any other party and is/are required
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> >destroy the information after its stated need has been fulfilled.
> >
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> >sender, except where the sender specifies and with authority,
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> Victoria, B.C.
> Canada
>
>
>
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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Fri Apr 16 20:25:12 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 18:25:12 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo
Message-ID: <001201c4241a$d8232cb0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

I opened a copy of the sysvar 2k mdb and built the additional tables.
When I try to open frmSysVar I get the error  " Compile Error: User
defined type: Not defined.
 
Dim mdb as DAO.Database
 
I checked and I do have the dao reference marked.
 
It is XP in 2000 format
 
Any thoughts apreciated
 
 
 
JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Apr 16 21:44:53 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 22:44:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo
In-Reply-To: <001201c4241a$d8232cb0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPGELFHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Is that from my site or DatabaseAdvisors?  Or somewhere else?

John W. Colby 
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:25 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo


I opened a copy of the sysvar 2k mdb and built the additional tables.
When I try to open frmSysVar I get the error  " Compile Error: User
defined type: Not defined.
 
Dim mdb as DAO.Database
 
I checked and I do have the dao reference marked.
 
It is XP in 2000 format
 
Any thoughts apreciated
 
 
 
JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 
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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Fri Apr 16 22:24:16 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 20:24:16 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPGELFHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <002801c4242b$79892040$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

John,

It is your sysvar demo. Did you get the e mail I sent you privately?

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 7:45 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo

Is that from my site or DatabaseAdvisors?  Or somewhere else?

John W. Colby 
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:25 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo


I opened a copy of the sysvar 2k mdb and built the additional tables.
When I try to open frmSysVar I get the error  " Compile Error: User
defined type: Not defined.
 
Dim mdb as DAO.Database
 
I checked and I do have the dao reference marked.
 
It is XP in 2000 format
 
Any thoughts apreciated
 
 
 
JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 
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From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr 16 23:13:17 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 00:13:17 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo
References: <001201c4241a$d8232cb0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <00d101c42432$50002cd0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...is the DAO reference listed before the ADO reference as it should be?

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Hecht" <jmhla at earthlink.net>
To: "AccessD" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:25 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo


> I opened a copy of the sysvar 2k mdb and built the additional tables.
> When I try to open frmSysVar I get the error  " Compile Error: User
> defined type: Not defined.
>  
> Dim mdb as DAO.Database
>  
> I checked and I do have the dao reference marked.
>  
> It is XP in 2000 format
>  
> Any thoughts apreciated
>  
>  
>  
> JOE HECHT
> LOS ANGELES CA 
>  
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sat Apr 17 03:08:08 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 01:08:08 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Upgrade to Jet SP-8 via Microsoft Windows
	Update facilty
References: <001201c4241a$d8232cb0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
	<00d101c42432$50002cd0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
Message-ID: <4080E5E8.3080500@shaw.ca>

 I am not sure but after checking the version numbers of MSJet40.dll, 
DAO360.dll and several others. It appears that Microsoft has upgraded 
everyone to an advanced security fix version of  JET SP-8 after 
receiving this months Windows Update automatic security upgrades.
 It would have been nice to have received a notification .;) Not sure 
what this will do to Jet Sandbox mode.
You can check quickly for the install through the control panel 
add/remove programs and look at bottom for MS HotFix 837001.
This doesn't apply to the OS's  Windows Me and below.
Here are the relevant Url's.
Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-014
Vulnerability in the Microsoft Jet Database Engine Could Allow Code 
Execution (837001)
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms04-014.mspx
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=837001

Old Jet Service Pack 8 File Manifest
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=829558

 The only reason I noticed was I was looking at an article on BBC 
Scotland news site describing a 19 year old from Aberdeen, Matt Thompson 
who brought the security fault to Microsoft's attention. They happened 
to mention the fault was in JET, which piqued my interest to look further.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3630649.stm


-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Apr 17 03:43:02 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 10:43:02 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Upgrade to Jet SP-8 via Microsoft Windows
	Update facilty
In-Reply-To: <4080E5E8.3080500@shaw.ca>
References: <001201c4241a$d8232cb0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
	<00d101c42432$50002cd0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys> <4080E5E8.3080500@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <213977429.20040417104302@cactus.dk>

Hi Marty

That's why I always download the patches, then install them one by one
- it allows you to read the notice from MS on the patch.

However, this 837001 patch seems to uninstallable if it causes you
trouble.

/gustav


>  I am not sure but after checking the version numbers of MSJet40.dll, 
> DAO360.dll and several others. It appears that Microsoft has upgraded 
> everyone to an advanced security fix version of  JET SP-8 after 
> receiving this months Windows Update automatic security upgrades.
>  It would have been nice to have received a notification .;) Not sure 
> what this will do to Jet Sandbox mode.
> You can check quickly for the install through the control panel 
> add/remove programs and look at bottom for MS HotFix 837001.
> This doesn't apply to the OS's  Windows Me and below.
> Here are the relevant Url's.
> Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-014
> Vulnerability in the Microsoft Jet Database Engine Could Allow Code 
> Execution (837001)
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms04-014.mspx
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=837001

> Old Jet Service Pack 8 File Manifest
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=829558

>  The only reason I noticed was I was looking at an article on BBC 
> Scotland news site describing a 19 year old from Aberdeen, Matt Thompson 
> who brought the security fault to Microsoft's attention. They happened 
> to mention the fault was in JET, which piqued my interest to look further.
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3630649.stm


> -- 
> Marty Connelly
> Victoria, B.C.
> Canada



From serbach at new.rr.com  Sat Apr 17 09:01:45 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 09:01:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
Message-ID: <20040417090145.183052912.serbach@new.rr.com>

William,

>> ...when the vector based SVG format gets fully implemented in more browsers we'll finally have something that produces both great graphics and small files ...I'm using some now for IE6 clients and the results are great. <<

This is the first I've heard of SVG. What does the acronym stand for and where can I find some on-line examples?

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504

"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty." - John F. Kennedy, 1961



From DaveSharpe2 at cox.net  Sat Apr 17 10:01:28 2004
From: DaveSharpe2 at cox.net (Dave Sharpe)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 11:01:28 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
References: <20040417090145.183052912.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <005801c4248c$dcb24af0$dd2f0a44@bcsrkeext6137>

Steve

You can look here for some info

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/

Dave

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven W. Erbach" <serbach at new.rr.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


William,

>> ...when the vector based SVG format gets fully implemented in more
browsers we'll finally have something that produces both great graphics and
small files ...I'm using some now for IE6 clients and the results are great.
<<

This is the first I've heard of SVG. What does the acronym stand for and
where can I find some on-line examples?

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504

"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay
any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose
any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty." - John
F. Kennedy, 1961

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sat Apr 17 11:07:57 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 09:07:57 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
References: <20040417090145.183052912.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<005801c4248c$dcb24af0$dd2f0a44@bcsrkeext6137>
Message-ID: <4081565D.7060103@shaw.ca>

Here is a spot with a few links to SVG (Scalable Vector Graphics)  articles
http://searchwebservices.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid26_gci918717,00.html

Grab an SVG viewer from Adobe. There are others.
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/main.html

Then save the xml file below as test.svg

Right click on filename and open with IE.
It is a graphical display of relative size of tablespaces in an Oracle DB.

You maybe able to find way more advanced displays ( Map of the Internet)
at Tim Bray's company in Vancouver. It may have moved elsewhere.
http://www.antarti.ca

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
 <svg width="640" height="480">
 <style type="text/css">
 <![CDATA[
 line {stroke:black;}
 text {text-anchor:middle;}
 ]]></style>
 <rect x="0" y="0" width="90" height="81" style="fill:#b1ff00"/><text 
x="45" y="41">CWMLITE</text>
 <line x1="90" y1="0" x2="90" y2="81"/>
 <rect x="90" y="0" width="89" height="81" style="fill:#aeff00"/>
 <text x="134" y="41">DRSYS</text>
 <line x1="0" y1="81" x2="179" y2="81"/>
 <rect x="0" y="81" width="59" height="399" style="fill:#fbff00"/>
 <text x="30" y="281">EJALA</text>
 <line x1="59" y1="81" x2="59" y2="480"/>
 <rect x="59" y="81" width="120" height="299" style="fill:#02ff00"/>
 <text x="119" y="231">EXAMPLE</text>
 <line x1="59" y1="380" x2="179" y2="380"/>
 <rect x="59" y="380" width="120" height="100" style="fill:#ffff00"/>
 <text x="119" y="430">INDX</text>
 <line x1="179" y1="0" x2="179" y2="480"/>
 <rect x="179" y="0" width="32" height="231" style="fill:#b1ff00"/>
 <text x="195" y="116">ODM</text>
 <line x1="211" y1="0" x2="211" y2="231"/>
 <rect x="211" y="0" width="429" height="223" style="fill:#02ff00"/>
 <text x="425" y="112">SYSTEM</text>
 <line x1="211" y1="223" x2="640" y2="223"/>
 <rect x="211" y="223" width="429" height="8" style="fill:#90ff00"/>
 <text x="425" y="227">TOOLS</text>
 <line x1="179" y1="231" x2="640" y2="231"/>
 <rect x="179" y="231" width="376" height="249" style="fill:#faff00"/>
 <text x="367" y="356">UNDOTBS1</text>
 <line x1="555" y1="231" x2="555" y2="480"/>
 <rect x="555" y="231" width="85" height="141" style="fill:#ffff00"/>
 <text x="598" y="302">USERS</text>
 <line x1="555" y1="372" x2="640" y2="372"/>
 <rect x="555" y="372" width="85" height="108" style="fill:#02ff00"/>
 <text x="598" y="426">XDB</text>
 <rect x="0" y="0" width="640" height="480" style="fill:none; 
stroke:black;"/>
 </svg>
 



Dave Sharpe wrote:

>Steve
>
>You can look here for some info
>
>http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/
>
>Dave
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Steven W. Erbach" <serbach at new.rr.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 10:01 AM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
>William,
>
>  
>
>>>...when the vector based SVG format gets fully implemented in more
>>>      
>>>
>browsers we'll finally have something that produces both great graphics and
>small files ...I'm using some now for IE6 clients and the results are great.
><<
>
>This is the first I've heard of SVG. What does the acronym stand for and
>where can I find some on-line examples?
>
>Regards,
>
>Steve Erbach
>Scientific Marketing
>Neenah, WI
>920-969-0504
>
>"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay
>any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose
>any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty." - John
>F. Kennedy, 1961
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Apr 17 11:36:12 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 12:36:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo
In-Reply-To: <002801c4242b$79892040$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPOELGHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

No.  Did you send it to jWcolby at colbyconsulting.com.  Notice the W in there.
the jcolby@ address has been turned off.

I looked at the demo on my site, and tried to find the dim statement and
couldn't.  I do dimension databases, but I always use db, not Mdb.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 11:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo


John,

It is your sysvar demo. Did you get the e mail I sent you privately?

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 7:45 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo

Is that from my site or DatabaseAdvisors?  Or somewhere else?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:25 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo


I opened a copy of the sysvar 2k mdb and built the additional tables.
When I try to open frmSysVar I get the error  " Compile Error: User
defined type: Not defined.

Dim mdb as DAO.Database

I checked and I do have the dao reference marked.

It is XP in 2000 format

Any thoughts apreciated



JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sat Apr 17 11:32:13 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 09:32:13 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Upgrade to Jet SP-8 via Microsoft Windows
	Update facilty
References: <001201c4241a$d8232cb0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
	<00d101c42432$50002cd0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys> <4080E5E8.3080500@shaw.ca>
	<213977429.20040417104302@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <40815C0D.8030203@shaw.ca>

I had Jet SP-7 installed and was planning to upgrade to SP-8  sometime 
soon. It made the decision for me.
I was wondering if people were also upgraded from Jet SP-4 or 5 etc.
It could be they did this to stop people from running things like 
following that makes all files in
the current folder read only.
SELECT Shell("Cmd /c attrib +R *.*") As c1 From Customers
With a little bit of fiddling with SQL Injection methods you could stuff 
this into a field in a web asp page and have it run on a website using 
Access.
But I don't think this patch was the only problem it was fixing.

How to configure Jet 4.0 to prevent unsafe functions from running in 
Access 2003
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;294698&Product=acc

Gustav Brock wrote:

>Hi Marty
>
>That's why I always download the patches, then install them one by one
>- it allows you to read the notice from MS on the patch.
>
>However, this 837001 patch seems to uninstallable if it causes you
>trouble.
>
>/gustav
>
>
>  
>
>> I am not sure but after checking the version numbers of MSJet40.dll, 
>>DAO360.dll and several others. It appears that Microsoft has upgraded 
>>everyone to an advanced security fix version of  JET SP-8 after 
>>receiving this months Windows Update automatic security upgrades.
>> It would have been nice to have received a notification .;) Not sure 
>>what this will do to Jet Sandbox mode.
>>You can check quickly for the install through the control panel 
>>add/remove programs and look at bottom for MS HotFix 837001.
>>This doesn't apply to the OS's  Windows Me and below.
>>Here are the relevant Url's.
>>Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-014
>>Vulnerability in the Microsoft Jet Database Engine Could Allow Code 
>>Execution (837001)
>>http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms04-014.mspx
>>http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=837001
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>Old Jet Service Pack 8 File Manifest
>>http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=829558
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>> The only reason I noticed was I was looking at an article on BBC 
>>Scotland news site describing a 19 year old from Aberdeen, Matt Thompson 
>>who brought the security fault to Microsoft's attention. They happened 
>>to mention the fault was in JET, which piqued my interest to look further.
>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3630649.stm
>>    
>>
>
>
>  
>
>>-- 
>>Marty Connelly
>>Victoria, B.C.
>>Canada
>>    
>>
>
>  
>

-- 
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Canada





From Subscriptions at servicexp.com  Sat Apr 17 12:03:54 2004
From: Subscriptions at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 13:03:54 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo
In-Reply-To: <002801c4242b$79892040$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <GPEGJHKJCEPGJIEIOEOOAEEKDLAA.Subscriptions@servicexp.com>

I think the problem is in the line below (Corrected) in the MergeSysVars
method. The .Value must be added.


mcolSysVars.Add Item:=!SV_VarValue.Value, Key:=!SV_VarName.Value


Robert Gracie
www.servicexp.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 11:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo


John,

It is your sysvar demo. Did you get the e mail I sent you privately?

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 7:45 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo

Is that from my site or DatabaseAdvisors?  Or somewhere else?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:25 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo


I opened a copy of the sysvar 2k mdb and built the additional tables.
When I try to open frmSysVar I get the error  " Compile Error: User
defined type: Not defined.

Dim mdb as DAO.Database

I checked and I do have the dao reference marked.

It is XP in 2000 format

Any thoughts apreciated



JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Apr 17 12:21:46 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 13:21:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo
In-Reply-To: <GPEGJHKJCEPGJIEIOEOOAEEKDLAA.Subscriptions@servicexp.com>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPIELHHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

I downloaded the 2k version from my site last night and just ran it.  No
errors.

Methinks something else is happening.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Robert Gracie
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 1:04 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo


I think the problem is in the line below (Corrected) in the MergeSysVars
method. The .Value must be added.


mcolSysVars.Add Item:=!SV_VarValue.Value, Key:=!SV_VarName.Value


Robert Gracie
www.servicexp.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 11:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo


John,

It is your sysvar demo. Did you get the e mail I sent you privately?

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA




From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Apr 17 12:37:39 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 19:37:39 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Upgrade to Jet SP-8 via Microsoft Windows
	Update facilty
In-Reply-To: <40815C0D.8030203@shaw.ca>
References: <001201c4241a$d8232cb0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
	<00d101c42432$50002cd0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys> <4080E5E8.3080500@shaw.ca>
	<213977429.20040417104302@cactus.dk> <40815C0D.8030203@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <13236054113.20040417193739@cactus.dk>

Hi Marty

> I had Jet SP-7 installed and was planning to upgrade to SP-8  sometime
> soon. It made the decision for me.
> I was wondering if people were also upgraded from Jet SP-4 or 5 etc.

Ahh, I see.
I don't know - I already had SP-8 installed.

/gustav



From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sat Apr 17 12:50:09 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 10:50:09 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPIELHHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <000001c424a4$7046c860$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

John,

I am running in 2000 mode in XP. Does it need some tlc because of xp

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 10:22 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo

I downloaded the 2k version from my site last night and just ran it.  No
errors.

Methinks something else is happening.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Robert Gracie
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 1:04 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo


I think the problem is in the line below (Corrected) in the MergeSysVars
method. The .Value must be added.


mcolSysVars.Add Item:=!SV_VarValue.Value, Key:=!SV_VarName.Value


Robert Gracie
www.servicexp.com


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 11:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with sysvar demo


John,

It is your sysvar demo. Did you get the e mail I sent you privately?

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA


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From Susan.Klos at fldoe.org  Sat Apr 17 14:15:35 2004
From: Susan.Klos at fldoe.org (Klos, Susan)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 15:15:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Changing the table in a query so I can loop through the
	query
Message-ID: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51E0410BE@DOESEFPEML02.EUS.FLDOE.INT>

I have an append query that can work for 71 tables.  I want to create a for
next loop function that will substitute the table names (they are numbers)
each time it loops.  Can someone help me?  I do not quite have the query def
thing down and I think I need to use it here.  Each table has the same
fields.

 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

 



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sat Apr 17 15:57:21 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 16:57:21 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Changing the table in a query so I can loop through
	thequery
In-Reply-To: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51E0410BE@DOESEFPEML02.EUS.FLDOE.INT>
Message-ID: <20040417205721.PKCA1773.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

You don't need a querydef, you can stick a SQL UPDATE in a For Mext loop. 

Susan H. 

I have an append query that can work for 71 tables.  I want to create a for
next loop function that will substitute the table names (they are numbers)
each time it loops.  Can someone help me?  I do not quite have the query def
thing down and I think I need to use it here.  Each table has the same
fields.

 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

 

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sat Apr 17 15:59:29 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 16:59:29 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Changing the table in a query so I can loop through
	thequery
In-Reply-To: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51E0410BE@DOESEFPEML02.EUS.FLDOE.INT>
Message-ID: <20040417205929.PLEB1773.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I'm sorry, not an UPDATE, but a SQL INSERT INTO

Susan H. 

I have an append query that can work for 71 tables.  I want to create a for
next loop function that will substitute the table names (they are numbers)
each time it loops.  Can someone help me?  I do not quite have the query def
thing down and I think I need to use it here.  Each table has the same
fields.




From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Sat Apr 17 16:02:18 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Developer)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 17:02:18 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Changing the table in a query so I can loop through
	thequery
In-Reply-To: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51E0410BE@DOESEFPEML02.EUS.FLDOE.INT>
Message-ID: <000001c424bf$47eb6860$6401a8c0@COA3>

Susan:
Rather than use the query def, paste the sql in the query into your
code, and then do something like:

For i = 1 to 71
   currentdb.execute "insert into " & i & " whatever the rest of the sql
is ...
Next i 

Hth
Steve





-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Klos, Susan
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 3:16 PM
To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: [AccessD] Changing the table in a query so I can loop through
thequery


I have an append query that can work for 71 tables.  I want to create a
for next loop function that will substitute the table names (they are
numbers) each time it loops.  Can someone help me?  I do not quite have
the query def thing down and I think I need to use it here.  Each table
has the same fields.

 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

 

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From sgoodhall at comcast.net  Sat Apr 17 16:48:39 2004
From: sgoodhall at comcast.net (Steve Goodhall)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 17:48:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
In-Reply-To: <4081565D.7060103@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <GOEIJOAPGAMPLIOCMEPMMELNDMAA.sgoodhall@comcast.net>

Sorry I haven't been on the list much lately and did not see this when it
came up.  The Microsoft HTML Help Workshop
(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=00535334-c8a6-452f
-9aa0-d597d16580cc&DisplayLang=en) has a screen and window capture utility,
image editor, etc.  It works quite well, and it's free.

Regards,

Steve Goodhall


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 12:08 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


Here is a spot with a few links to SVG (Scalable Vector Graphics)  articles
http://searchwebservices.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid26_gci918717,00.html

Grab an SVG viewer from Adobe. There are others.
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/main.html

Then save the xml file below as test.svg

Right click on filename and open with IE.
It is a graphical display of relative size of tablespaces in an Oracle DB.

You maybe able to find way more advanced displays ( Map of the Internet)
at Tim Bray's company in Vancouver. It may have moved elsewhere.
http://www.antarti.ca

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
 <svg width="640" height="480">
 <style type="text/css">
 <![CDATA[
 line {stroke:black;}
 text {text-anchor:middle;}
 ]]></style>
 <rect x="0" y="0" width="90" height="81" style="fill:#b1ff00"/><text
x="45" y="41">CWMLITE</text>
 <line x1="90" y1="0" x2="90" y2="81"/>
 <rect x="90" y="0" width="89" height="81" style="fill:#aeff00"/>
 <text x="134" y="41">DRSYS</text>
 <line x1="0" y1="81" x2="179" y2="81"/>
 <rect x="0" y="81" width="59" height="399" style="fill:#fbff00"/>
 <text x="30" y="281">EJALA</text>
 <line x1="59" y1="81" x2="59" y2="480"/>
 <rect x="59" y="81" width="120" height="299" style="fill:#02ff00"/>
 <text x="119" y="231">EXAMPLE</text>
 <line x1="59" y1="380" x2="179" y2="380"/>
 <rect x="59" y="380" width="120" height="100" style="fill:#ffff00"/>
 <text x="119" y="430">INDX</text>
 <line x1="179" y1="0" x2="179" y2="480"/>
 <rect x="179" y="0" width="32" height="231" style="fill:#b1ff00"/>
 <text x="195" y="116">ODM</text>
 <line x1="211" y1="0" x2="211" y2="231"/>
 <rect x="211" y="0" width="429" height="223" style="fill:#02ff00"/>
 <text x="425" y="112">SYSTEM</text>
 <line x1="211" y1="223" x2="640" y2="223"/>
 <rect x="211" y="223" width="429" height="8" style="fill:#90ff00"/>
 <text x="425" y="227">TOOLS</text>
 <line x1="179" y1="231" x2="640" y2="231"/>
 <rect x="179" y="231" width="376" height="249" style="fill:#faff00"/>
 <text x="367" y="356">UNDOTBS1</text>
 <line x1="555" y1="231" x2="555" y2="480"/>
 <rect x="555" y="231" width="85" height="141" style="fill:#ffff00"/>
 <text x="598" y="302">USERS</text>
 <line x1="555" y1="372" x2="640" y2="372"/>
 <rect x="555" y="372" width="85" height="108" style="fill:#02ff00"/>
 <text x="598" y="426">XDB</text>
 <rect x="0" y="0" width="640" height="480" style="fill:none;
stroke:black;"/>
 </svg>




Dave Sharpe wrote:

>Steve
>
>You can look here for some info
>
>http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/
>
>Dave
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Steven W. Erbach" <serbach at new.rr.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 10:01 AM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
>William,
>
>
>
>>>...when the vector based SVG format gets fully implemented in more
>>>
>>>
>browsers we'll finally have something that produces both great graphics and
>small files ...I'm using some now for IE6 clients and the results are
great.
><<
>
>This is the first I've heard of SVG. What does the acronym stand for and
>where can I find some on-line examples?
>
>Regards,
>
>Steve Erbach
>Scientific Marketing
>Neenah, WI
>920-969-0504
>
>"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay
>any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose
>any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty." -
John
>F. Kennedy, 1961
>
>
>

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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sat Apr 17 17:20:21 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 15:20:21 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Changing the table in a query so I can loop through the
	query
References: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51E0410BE@DOESEFPEML02.EUS.FLDOE.INT>
Message-ID: <4081ADA5.1000205@shaw.ca>

If you are just appending fields  modified slightly from Access97 help



'Append and Delete Methods Example
'This example uses either the Append method or the Delete method to 
modify the Fields collection of a TableDef. The AppendDeleteField 
procedure is required for this procedure to run.

Sub AppendX()

    Dim dbs As Database
    Dim tdf As TableDef
    Dim fldLoop As Field
    Dim strTdef As String
    Set dbs = CurrentDb
      'Import tables from specified Access database or currentDB
    For Each tdf In dbs.TableDefs 'loop through tables for names
    strTdef = tdf.Name
    Debug.Print strTdef
    If Left(strTdef, 4) <> "MSys" Then ' skip system tables

    ' Add three new fields. 'you may want to add other options like no 
zero length etc
    AppendDeleteField tdf, "APPEND", "E-mail", dbText, 50
    AppendDeleteField tdf, "APPEND", "Http", dbText, 80
    AppendDeleteField tdf, "APPEND", "Quota", dbInteger, 5

    Debug.Print "Fields after Append to Table " & tdf.Name

    Debug.Print , "Type", "Size", "Name"

    ' Enumerate the Fields collection to show the new fields.
    For Each fldLoop In tdf.Fields
        Debug.Print , fldLoop.Type, fldLoop.Size, fldLoop.Name
    Next fldLoop

    ' Delete the newly added fields.
   ' AppendDeleteField tdf, "DELETE", "E-mail"
   ' AppendDeleteField tdf, "DELETE", "Http"
   ' AppendDeleteField tdf, "DELETE", "Quota"

   ' Debug.Print "Fields after Delete"
   ' Debug.Print , "Type", "Size", "Name"


    ' Enumerate the Fields collection to show that the new
    ' fields have been deleted.
    For Each fldLoop In tdf.Fields
        Debug.Print , fldLoop.Type, fldLoop.Size, fldLoop.Name
    Next fldLoop
   
    End If
   
  Next tdf

  dbs.Close

End Sub

Sub AppendDeleteField(tdfTemp As TableDef, _
    strCommand As String, strName As String, _
    Optional varType, Optional varSize)

    With tdfTemp

        ' Check first to see if the TableDef object is
        ' updatable. If it isn't, control is passed back to

        ' the calling procedure.
        If .Updatable = False Then
            MsgBox "TableDef not Updatable! " & _
                "Unable to complete task."
            Exit Sub
        End If

        ' Depending on the passed data, append or delete a
        ' field to the Fields collection of the specified
        ' TableDef object.
        If strCommand = "APPEND" Then
            .Fields.Append .CreateField(strName, _
                varType, varSize)
        Else
            If strCommand = "DELETE" Then .Fields.Delete _
                strName
        End If

    End With

End Sub




Klos, Susan wrote:

>I have an append query that can work for 71 tables.  I want to create a for
>next loop function that will substitute the table names (they are numbers)
>each time it loops.  Can someone help me?  I do not quite have the query def
>thing down and I think I need to use it here.  Each table has the same
>fields.
>
> 
>
>Susan Klos
>
>Senior Database Analyst
>
>Evaluation and Reporting
>
>Florida Department of Education
>
> 
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sat Apr 17 17:46:53 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 18:46:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
Message-ID: <20040417224653.KZKB1818.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I'm grouping and sorting a report on a date field. The grouping is by the
week -- but I want it to handle a changing first day of the week variable. I
can't get my head around it at all. 
 
Passing the first day of the week around is no problem -- I just can't seem
to get Access to group by it. I've looked at CreateGroupLevel, but I don't
see how that can help. 
 
I tried adding a DatePart expression to the Detail section and using the
OpenArgs property to pass the first day of the week, and while the
expression works, I can't group by it -- it's a calculated control. I don't
want the users manipulating the underlying query either. They choose the
first day of the week from a simple form and the rest needs to happen behind
the scenes. 
 
Any suggestions? 
 
Susan H. 


From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sat Apr 17 18:21:04 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 19:21:04 -0400
Subject: FW: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
Message-ID: <20040417232105.BHUI1832.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

 Nevermind. :( 

Susan H. 


I'm grouping and sorting a report on a date field. The grouping is by the
week -- but I want it to handle a changing first day of the week variable. I
can't get my head around it at all. 
 
Passing the first day of the week around is no problem -- I just can't seem
to get Access to group by it. I've looked at CreateGroupLevel, but I don't
see how that can help. 
 
I tried adding a DatePart expression to the Detail section and using the
OpenArgs property to pass the first day of the week, and while the
expression works, I can't group by it -- it's a calculated control. I don't
want the users manipulating the underlying query either. They choose the
first day of the week from a simple form and the rest needs to happen behind
the scenes. 
 
Any suggestions? 



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Apr 17 18:22:33 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 09:22:33 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040417224653.KZKB1818.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <408248D9.22694.F740E@localhost>

On 17 Apr 2004 at 18:46, Susan Harkins wrote:

> I'm grouping and sorting a report on a date field. The grouping is by the
> week -- but I want it to handle a changing first day of the week variable. I
> can't get my head around it at all. 
>  
> Passing the first day of the week around is no problem -- I just can't seem
> to get Access to group by it. I've looked at CreateGroupLevel, but I don't
> see how that can help. 
>  
> I tried adding a DatePart expression to the Detail section and using the
> OpenArgs property to pass the first day of the week, and while the
> expression works, I can't group by it -- it's a calculated control. I don't
> want the users manipulating the underlying query either. They choose the
> first day of the week from a simple form and the rest needs to happen behind
> the scenes. 
>  

You can group by a calculation.
Just put =Datepart("ww",mydate,myfirstday) in a grouping level.

 
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Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System 
Support.





From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sat Apr 17 19:15:58 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 20:15:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <408248D9.22694.F740E@localhost>
Message-ID: <20040418001559.IUSX1714.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I've got it grouping correctly now -- the problem was passing the first day
of the week variable to the report. I decided to use a function to pass it
to the query instead of the report.

When you say "grouping level" what do you mean? I tried a calculation with
GroupLevel and couldn't get it to work, but just might not have had the
syntax right in the statement. I need something flexible enough to allow me
to pass a new firstdayoftheweek value. Come to think of it, I didn't try
GroupOn -- and maybe that was what I needed. I will have to go back and try
that one again.  

Now, I just need to figure out how to get the first day of that week to
print in the group's header -- and it needs to be dynamic enough to handle
any day of the week as the first day of the week. 

If the date's Thursday, July 25, 1996 which falls in the 31st week of the
year where Wed is the first day of the week... how do I return Wednesday,
July 25, 1996? That's my problem. :) the expression has to adapt to any
firstdayoftheweek value, not just Wed.     

Susan H. 

On 17 Apr 2004 at 18:46, Susan Harkins wrote:

> I'm grouping and sorting a report on a date field. The grouping is by 
> the week -- but I want it to handle a changing first day of the week 
> variable. I can't get my head around it at all.
>  
> Passing the first day of the week around is no problem -- I just can't 
> seem to get Access to group by it. I've looked at CreateGroupLevel, 
> but I don't see how that can help.
>  
> I tried adding a DatePart expression to the Detail section and using 
> the OpenArgs property to pass the first day of the week, and while the 
> expression works, I can't group by it -- it's a calculated control. I 
> don't want the users manipulating the underlying query either. They 
> choose the first day of the week from a simple form and the rest needs 
> to happen behind the scenes.
>  

You can group by a calculation.
Just put =Datepart("ww",mydate,myfirstday) in a grouping level.

 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sat Apr 17 19:39:07 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 20:39:07 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040418001559.IUSX1714.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <20040418003907.JBDR1714.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

If the date's Thursday, July 25, 1996 which falls in the 31st week of the
year where Wed is the first day of the week... how do I return Wednesday,
July 25, 1996? That's my problem. :) the expression has to adapt to any
firstdayoftheweek value, not just Wed.     

==============Got this too now -- all's well. ;) 

Susan H. 



From demulling at centurytel.net  Sat Apr 17 21:58:44 2004
From: demulling at centurytel.net (Demulling Family)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 21:58:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Using TransferDatabase to link table from password
	protectd db
In-Reply-To: <407F56A3.7050805@shaw.ca>
References: <OFEAD4A8D1.CB964D3A-ON86256E77.006DCA7F-86256E77.006E2BCB@us.bank-dns.com>
	<407F56A3.7050805@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <4081EEE4.2070104@centurytel.net>

Marty,

Just tried the code you sent and it worked perfectly.  
THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sun Apr 18 01:44:20 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 23:44:20 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] About Manuals for  your databases X posted
Message-ID: <000001c42510$98fbcdc0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

How many of you right them?
 
Do you right users and developers manuals that explain your hows and
whys?
 
In my forms, I do things like make non-visible fields red and bold just
so they are easier to see if they are buried under other controls.
 
Just wondering
 
JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 


From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sun Apr 18 01:44:21 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 23:44:21 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040417232105.BHUI1832.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <000501c42510$9c99dc10$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

Glad to see I am not the only frustrated programmer on A Saturday
Afternoon.

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 4:21 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: FW: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report

 Nevermind. :( 

Susan H. 


I'm grouping and sorting a report on a date field. The grouping is by
the
week -- but I want it to handle a changing first day of the week
variable. I
can't get my head around it at all. 
 
Passing the first day of the week around is no problem -- I just can't
seem
to get Access to group by it. I've looked at CreateGroupLevel, but I
don't
see how that can help. 
 
I tried adding a DatePart expression to the Detail section and using the
OpenArgs property to pass the first day of the week, and while the
expression works, I can't group by it -- it's a calculated control. I
don't
want the users manipulating the underlying query either. They choose the
first day of the week from a simple form and the rest needs to happen
behind
the scenes. 
 
Any suggestions? 

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Apr 18 02:27:58 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 09:27:58 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] About Manuals for  your databases X posted
In-Reply-To: <000001c42510$98fbcdc0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
References: <000001c42510$98fbcdc0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <593513812.20040418092758@cactus.dk>

Hi Joe

> How many of you right them?

I write old fashioned help files only. They load extremely fast and
are quite easy to print out if a hardcopy is requested.
 
> Do you right users and developers manuals that explain your hows and
> whys?

For users only as part of a project description.
For developers (including myself!) only as in-line comments.
 
> In my forms, I do things like make non-visible fields red and bold just
> so they are easier to see if they are buried under other controls.

I use these background colours with black text:

  Yellow for invisible controls (mostly textboxes)

  Cyan for invisible controls for either future visible use or which
  previously have been visible (now invisible due to modifications of
  the form layout) and with a possible future use, though such
  controls must be tricky somehow, otherwise I just delete them.

  Green for invisible textboxes containing a function which needs to
  (and will) run when the form recalculates. These are rare.

  Magenta for invisible labels with comments or as pointers to
  controls hidden in design view by some larger controls.

/gustav



From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Sun Apr 18 07:23:54 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 08:23:54 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] About Manuals for  your databases X posted
References: <000001c42510$98fbcdc0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
	<593513812.20040418092758@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <000401c42540$03fccb90$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

gustav

...interesting ...I've always used naming conventions to manage distinctions
like this but can certainly see some value in using color ...I'm rebuilding
a major client app over the next few weeks and I think it would be a good
time to try this in my templates ...tks :)

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 3:27 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] About Manuals for your databases X posted


> Hi Joe
>
> > How many of you right them?
>
> I write old fashioned help files only. They load extremely fast and
> are quite easy to print out if a hardcopy is requested.
>
> > Do you right users and developers manuals that explain your hows and
> > whys?
>
> For users only as part of a project description.
> For developers (including myself!) only as in-line comments.
>
> > In my forms, I do things like make non-visible fields red and bold just
> > so they are easier to see if they are buried under other controls.
>
> I use these background colours with black text:
>
>   Yellow for invisible controls (mostly textboxes)
>
>   Cyan for invisible controls for either future visible use or which
>   previously have been visible (now invisible due to modifications of
>   the form layout) and with a possible future use, though such
>   controls must be tricky somehow, otherwise I just delete them.
>
>   Green for invisible textboxes containing a function which needs to
>   (and will) run when the form recalculates. These are rare.
>
>   Magenta for invisible labels with comments or as pointers to
>   controls hidden in design view by some larger controls.
>
> /gustav
>
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Apr 18 09:23:47 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 10:23:47 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <000501c42510$9c99dc10$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <20040418142347.GYRL1728.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I'm still not happy with the solution -- there's got to be an easier way. :)


Susan H. 


Glad to see I am not the only frustrated programmer on A Saturday Afternoon.




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Apr 18 10:44:37 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 11:44:37 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
Message-ID: <20040418154437.GAQR1779.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I'm writing about the ODE Calendar Control and I'm curious how many of you
use Calendar controls in your apps. 
 
I've had people complain about them -- they'd actually enter the dates
themselves because they find the break in their data entry routines annoying
-- from a data integrity point of view I can see the value of the controls
-- but how do you convince people to use them?
 
Susan H. 


From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Sun Apr 18 10:52:14 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 16:52:14 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
In-Reply-To: <20040418154437.GAQR1779.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <000001c4255d$1edb6ee0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

I don't use them for normal date entry, but I provide one on the app's
short-cut menu for when the customer feels the need.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Susan Harkins
> Sent: 18 April 2004 16:45
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
> 
> 
> I'm writing about the ODE Calendar Control and I'm curious 
> how many of you use Calendar controls in your apps. 
>  
> I've had people complain about them -- they'd actually enter 
> the dates themselves because they find the break in their 
> data entry routines annoying
> -- from a data integrity point of view I can see the value of 
> the controls
> -- but how do you convince people to use them?
>  
> Susan H. 
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From bhjohnson at pacbell.net  Sun Apr 18 10:52:27 2004
From: bhjohnson at pacbell.net (Bruce H. Johnson)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 08:52:27 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
In-Reply-To: <20040418154437.GAQR1779.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <20040418154437.GAQR1779.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <4082A43B.8070406@pacbell.net>

Suggest you have both the control and the straight data entry available. 
I've found that straight date entry is fine if the user knows the date, 
but the control is very handy to enter the "first Tuesday in February" - 
type dates; otherwise they'll have to dig up a calendar.

Susan Harkins wrote:

>I'm writing about the ODE Calendar Control and I'm curious how many of you
>use Calendar controls in your apps. 
> 
>I've had people complain about them -- they'd actually enter the dates
>themselves because they find the break in their data entry routines annoying
>-- from a data integrity point of view I can see the value of the controls
>-- but how do you convince people to use them?
> 
>Susan H. 
>  
>



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Apr 18 11:07:27 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 12:07:27 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
In-Reply-To: <4082A43B.8070406@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <20040418160727.DWEY1773.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Well that's a good suggestion -- I hadn't really thought of that. :) 

Susan H. 

Suggest you have both the control and the straight data entry available. 
I've found that straight date entry is fine if the user knows the date, but
the control is very handy to enter the "first Tuesday in February" - type
dates; otherwise they'll have to dig up a calendar.




From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Apr 18 11:35:50 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 09:35:50 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
In-Reply-To: <20040418154437.GAQR1779.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIIEMDCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Susan:

I tend to add a button accessing a popup calendar, beside each date entry
field. The user is then given the choice, direct entry or selecting from a
mini calendar.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 8:45 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion


I'm writing about the ODE Calendar Control and I'm curious how many of you
use Calendar controls in your apps.

I've had people complain about them -- they'd actually enter the dates
themselves because they find the break in their data entry routines annoying
-- from a data integrity point of view I can see the value of the controls
-- but how do you convince people to use them?

Susan H.
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From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Sun Apr 18 11:42:00 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 12:42:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
References: <20040418154437.GAQR1779.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <000c01c42564$12270180$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...first ...I don't use the ODE Calendar Control because of a long history
of versioning problems ...even when you wrap it in a class you're app is
still vulnerable ...besides it being slow ...I use a modified version of
Drew's old mini-calendar which is all VBA, dead reliable, and very fast.

...second (this has been discussed here recently but under another thread
topic) ...I much prefer data integrity over speed but its not necessary to
sacrifice one for the other ...I always force user date entry from a pop-up
calendar ...the calendar pops-up at the bottom right of the text box with
the current date defaulted ...if the current date is what is required ...a
dblclick gets the date entered and tabs to the next control ...if not, the
cal responds to either mouse (slow) or keyboard (fast) for date selection.

...purists will try and tell you that such an approach slows keyboarders
down and they won't accept it ...I disagree ...once the keyboarders get used
to the keyboard strokes that control the cal it is in most cases just as
fast as them entering it directly ...BUT ...big one ...the forced calendar
usage eliminates most date errors from users who enter/read dates
differently ...and the difference between error/dirty data correction time
and getting it right the first time weighs heavily in favor of using a cal
control over straight user date entry.

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 11:44 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion


> I'm writing about the ODE Calendar Control and I'm curious how many of you
> use Calendar controls in your apps.
>
> I've had people complain about them -- they'd actually enter the dates
> themselves because they find the break in their data entry routines
annoying
> -- from a data integrity point of view I can see the value of the controls
> -- but how do you convince people to use them?
>
> Susan H.
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Apr 18 11:48:29 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 12:48:29 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
In-Reply-To: <000c01c42564$12270180$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
Message-ID: <20040418164829.INUT1728.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

...first ...I don't use the ODE Calendar Control because of a long history
of versioning problems 

===========I'm limited -- I write about what they want. :) So, when you
complain of versioning problems, what do you mean?

Susan H. 



From gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Apr 18 11:59:33 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 18:59:33 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040418142347.GYRL1728.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <20040418142347.GYRL1728.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <1661080363.20040418185933@cactus.dk>

Hi Susan

> I'm still not happy with the solution -- there's got to be an easier way. :)

Maybe. What solution did you settle on?

/gustav



From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Sun Apr 18 12:11:53 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 13:11:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
References: <20040418164829.INUT1728.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <002301c42568$3ec91ad0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...I've not used the native cal for years ...but there was a period of time
with A95/97 that MS changed the way the calendar worked between a number of
versions and didn't maintain reverse compatibility ...depending upon which
version of the control your users had installed your app might or might not
work, a very common problem back then with all ActiveX controls (I don't use
any 3rd party ActiveX controls for the same reason) ...so I switched to a
vba based one and never looked back ...and no, I can't tell you the problems
have or have not been resolved ...I'm happy with my calendar ...its been
tweaked to work exactly the way I want it to :)

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 12:48 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion


> ...first ...I don't use the ODE Calendar Control because of a long history
> of versioning problems
>
> ===========I'm limited -- I write about what they want. :) So, when you
> complain of versioning problems, what do you mean?
>
> Susan H.
>
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Apr 18 12:41:30 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 13:41:30 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] ODE HElp problem
Message-ID: <20040418174130.YNQF1810.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I just installed Office XP Developer and the Help files don't work -- the
interface is there and the toc is there -- but it isn't connecting and every
subject returns a page not found error. 
 
I don't even know where to begin to start. Anyone else had this happen?
 
Susan H. 


From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Apr 18 12:52:24 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 13:52:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <1661080363.20040418185933@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20040418175224.YQKA1810.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Well, it's clunky -- 

1.) User selects the first day of the week from a list of Sunday through
Saturday. 
2.) User clicks a command button that opens the report and sends the above
selected value via the OpenArgs argument. 
3.) The report is based on a query that calls a function that uses the value
selected in #1 to return a weekday value for each date.
4.) The report's grouping is first set to year. The second level groups on
the weekday value returned by #3. And, a third sorting level simply sorts
the date values so it all comes out in the wash. 
5.) The group header contains a value that uses the openargs value in a
DatePart expression to return the first day of the week for each group. 

You can use the report without the form and it will default to a
firstdayoftheweek value of 1 -- to avoid errors and to make it easier to use
the report without going through the form -- that way you could set the
default to anything and the user could just open the report. 

Seems like it ought to be easier than that though -- just too much going on.


#3's the one I don't really like. Seems like I ought to be able to get that
weekday number in the report, and although I can -- I can't sort by it.
Someone mentioned yesterday that you could group on a calculation, but I've
not figured that one out yet. I tried setting it using the GroupLevel and
GroupOn properties, but never got it to work -- not saying it won't, just I
wasn't successful. I didn't spend much time on it though. My understanding
of the GroupOn property is that it needs to refer to a specific integer
value that represents the built-in levels (Month, Year, Quarter, and so on).
I never could get it to accept a DatePart expression. 

Susan H.  

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 1:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report

Hi Susan

> I'm still not happy with the solution -- there's got to be an easier 
> way. :)

Maybe. What solution did you settle on?

/gustav

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Apr 18 13:43:07 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 11:43:07 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A summary of the great Open Source discussion
In-Reply-To: <000001c4255d$1edb6ee0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIEEMFCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi All:

A couple of weeks ago, there was an Open Source debate encapsulated much of
the points of view that have been argued for years. I was so impressed, with
the conciseness and objectiveness of the discussion that I decided to put
the results in a single page and post the summary to the DBA web site. You
can get access to the page through a link off the main page
www.databaseadvisors.com. (If your browser saves pages you may have to press
reset/reload to view the current layout.)

Thank you all for your contributions, Susan Harkin, who started the whole
thing, Stuart McLachlan, Bryan Carbonnell, Francisco H Tapia, Bruce Bruen,
Bob Hall, Drew Wutka, Marty Connelly and Arthur Fuller.

If there is anyone I overlooked or comments I missed, send me a note and you
will be appropriately accommodated.

Again, thanks to all.
Jim



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Apr 18 14:48:33 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 12:48:33 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
References: <20040418164829.INUT1728.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
	<002301c42568$3ec91ad0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
Message-ID: <00df01c4257e$2230ff80$6601a8c0@HAL9002>


I use the ADH calendar and trigger it on the double-click of any date text
box.  So they can still hand enter the date if they want.  Users seem to
like the convention once they get used to it.

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 12:48 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
>
>
> > ...first ...I don't use the ODE Calendar Control because of a long
history
> > of versioning problems
> >
> > ===========I'm limited -- I write about what they want. :) So, when you
> > complain of versioning problems, what do you mean?
> >
> > Susan H.
> >
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Apr 18 14:53:29 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 12:53:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] About Manuals for  your databases X posted
References: <000001c42510$98fbcdc0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <00f701c4257e$d2a17480$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Joe:

I wrote a manual for the manufacturing system last year.  Just about
committed suicide but got it done.  For a product I think you need one.  But
for a one-shot app I never write them.

I tried to be consistent about the headings so that I could do an automatic
table of contents and that worked out pretty well.  And a different style
for the figures and tables so I could auto-produce a list of figures as
well.

Haven't done an index, however.

I'd be glad to send you a copy off-line if it would be useful to you.

HTH

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Hecht" <jmhla at earthlink.net>
To: "'ACCESS-L'" <ACCESS-L at PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM>; "AccessD"
<AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 11:44 PM
Subject: [AccessD] About Manuals for your databases X posted


> How many of you right them?
>
> Do you right users and developers manuals that explain your hows and
> whys?
>
> In my forms, I do things like make non-visible fields red and bold just
> so they are easier to see if they are buried under other controls.
>
> Just wondering
>
> JOE HECHT
> LOS ANGELES CA
>
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From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Sun Apr 18 14:57:53 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 15:57:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
In-Reply-To: <00df01c4257e$2230ff80$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <4082A581.7252.F87E02@localhost>

On 18 Apr 2004 at 12:48, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access S wrote:

> I use the ADH calendar and trigger it on the double-click of any date
> text box.  So they can still hand enter the date if they want.  Users
> seem to like the convention once they get used to it.

I use the ADH one too. I actually place a button right beside the 
textbox so that the calendar can be opened without taking your hands 
off the keyboard.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
Don't take life too seriously. You won't get out alive.




From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Apr 18 16:11:22 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 14:11:22 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
References: <4082A581.7252.F87E02@localhost>
Message-ID: <015b01c42589$b3bde390$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Bryan:

So is that button the next control in the tab sequence after the text box
which would contain a date so the user can then TAB to it and press Enter?

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at sympatico.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion


> On 18 Apr 2004 at 12:48, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access S wrote:
>
> > I use the ADH calendar and trigger it on the double-click of any date
> > text box.  So they can still hand enter the date if they want.  Users
> > seem to like the convention once they get used to it.
>
> I use the ADH one too. I actually place a button right beside the
> textbox so that the calendar can be opened without taking your hands
> off the keyboard.
>
> -- 
> Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
> Don't take life too seriously. You won't get out alive.
>
>
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From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Sun Apr 18 16:27:00 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 17:27:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
In-Reply-To: <015b01c42589$b3bde390$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <4082BA64.21526.14A13BF@localhost>

On 18 Apr 2004 at 14:11, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access S wrote:

> So is that button the next control in the tab sequence after the text
> box which would contain a date so the user can then TAB to it and
> press Enter?

I'm not sure if enter works, I always use the space bar to activate 
the button, but yes that's the concept.

The button is the next item in the tab order. The user would press 
space/enter and the calendar form opens, or they can just tab through 
the button if they type the date manually.

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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Sun Apr 18 17:00:43 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 23:00:43 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
In-Reply-To: <000c01c42564$12270180$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
Message-ID: <000601c42590$98900470$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

> I use a modified version of Drew's old mini-calendar which is all VBA,
dead reliable, and very fast.
Ditto (and thanks to Drew)

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> William Hindman
> Sent: 18 April 2004 17:42
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
> 
> 
> ...first ...I don't use the ODE Calendar Control because of a 
> long history of versioning problems ...even when you wrap it 
> in a class you're app is still vulnerable ...besides it being 
> slow ...I use a modified version of Drew's old mini-calendar 
> which is all VBA, dead reliable, and very fast.
> 
> ...second (this has been discussed here recently but under 
> another thread
> topic) ...I much prefer data integrity over speed but its not 
> necessary to sacrifice one for the other ...I always force 
> user date entry from a pop-up calendar ...the calendar 
> pops-up at the bottom right of the text box with the current 
> date defaulted ...if the current date is what is required 
> ...a dblclick gets the date entered and tabs to the next 
> control ...if not, the cal responds to either mouse (slow) or 
> keyboard (fast) for date selection.
> 
> ...purists will try and tell you that such an approach slows 
> keyboarders down and they won't accept it ...I disagree 
> ...once the keyboarders get used to the keyboard strokes that 
> control the cal it is in most cases just as fast as them 
> entering it directly ...BUT ...big one ...the forced calendar 
> usage eliminates most date errors from users who enter/read 
> dates differently ...and the difference between error/dirty 
> data correction time and getting it right the first time 
> weighs heavily in favor of using a cal control over straight 
> user date entry.
> 
> William Hindman
> "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing 
> your code is a violent psychopath who knows where you live." 
> William Silverstein
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 11:44 AM
> Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
> 
> 
> > I'm writing about the ODE Calendar Control and I'm curious 
> how many of 
> > you use Calendar controls in your apps.
> >
> > I've had people complain about them -- they'd actually 
> enter the dates 
> > themselves because they find the break in their data entry routines
> annoying
> > -- from a data integrity point of view I can see the value of the 
> > controls
> > -- but how do you convince people to use them?
> >
> > Susan H.
> > --
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From pedro at plex.nl  Sun Apr 18 17:17:55 2004
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 00:17:55 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] error in code
Message-ID: <000801c42593$219ec510$f4c581d5@pedro>

Hello Group,

why isn't this part of a code not working

for i  = 1 To 9
If "chb" & i & "c31") = True Then
    .Item("Code" & i).Value = "**     geen code"
End If
Next i

the error is:  Error 13, Description:  Type Mismatch


TIA

Pedro Janssen




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Apr 18 17:41:41 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 18:41:41 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] error in code
In-Reply-To: <000801c42593$219ec510$f4c581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <20040418224141.TSEN1714.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

 
for i  = 1 To 9
If "chb" & i & "c31") = True Then

Your condition is never going to equal true -- but rather a cancatenated
string. Although, I think the code's missing soemthing -- you've got a )
that doesn't make sense in its position, but I suspect that's just a typo
and probably isn't your actual error is it?

Susan H. 



From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Sun Apr 18 17:46:46 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 18:46:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] error in code
In-Reply-To: <000801c42593$219ec510$f4c581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <4082CD16.31909.1931CA1@localhost>

On 19 Apr 2004 at 0:17, Pedro Janssen wrote:

> why isn't this part of a code not working
> 
> for i  = 1 To 9
> If "chb" & i & "c31") = True Then
>     .Item("Code" & i).Value = "**     geen code"
> End If
> Next i

Pedro,

I am assuming that chb* are checkboxes. If so, try:

If me.controls("chb" & i & "c31") = True Then

You also have a closing ) on the ofiginal If Then line.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
I am a nobody, and nobody is perfect; therefore, I am perfect.




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Apr 18 18:52:42 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 09:52:42 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] error in code
In-Reply-To: <000801c42593$219ec510$f4c581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <4083A16A.23848.32CE49@localhost>

On 19 Apr 2004 at 0:17, Pedro Janssen wrote:

> Hello Group,
> 
> why isn't this part of a code not working
> 
> for i  = 1 To 9
> If "chb" & i & "c31") = True Then
>     .Item("Code" & i).Value = "**     geen code"
> End If
> Next i
> 
> the error is:  Error 13, Description:  Type Mismatch
> 

Apart from the problems mentioned by others (the missing "(",  the 
missing "me.controls" or "." before "chb1"),  this will result in 
spaces in your control names ie "chb 1c31" to "chb 9c31" and "Code 1" 
to "Code 9"

UNless you do have spaces in the control names, you need to use 
Format(i) or similar to get rid of the leading space.



 
-- 
Lexacorp Ltd
http://www.lexacorp.com.pg
Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System 
Support.





From MPorter at acsalaska.com  Sun Apr 18 18:42:33 2004
From: MPorter at acsalaska.com (Porter, Mark)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 15:42:33 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] About Manuals for  your databases X posted
Message-ID: <BFBC9BAC6169D411890000508BAE2C5304246E84@acsexch4.corp.acsalaska.com>

I charge the same hourly rate for documentation as I do for coding.

Then I strongly suggest that they produce their own.  I've never been asked to produce documentation (user docs) yet.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhla at earthlink.net]
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 10:44 PM
To: 'ACCESS-L'; AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] About Manuals for your databases X posted


How many of you right them?
 
Do you right users and developers manuals that explain your hows and
whys?
 
In my forms, I do things like make non-visible fields red and bold just
so they are easier to see if they are buried under other controls.
 
Just wondering
 
JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 
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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 19 03:44:05 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 01:44:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Error 3265. Item not found in this collection?!!?
Message-ID: <20040419084405.36072.qmail@web61105.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi group,
 
a user reported an error. The error message displayed the following info:
Source: DAO.Fields
Number: 3265
Description: Item not found in this collection
Call Stack: Switchdatabase.Message_Check_GAS.Check1015
                 Switchdatabase.Form_frm_GAS_GENERATE.cmdGenerate_Click
 
The line that causes the error is (see code below for details): 
rv = MsgBox("Duplicate value!! Delete original record?" & vbCr _
               , vbYesNo, "Answer question")
 
WHY does this occur?
The user is using Win NT. The error does NOT occur on Win2000. We never had this problem before, not on NT and not on Win2000.
 
Please advise!
 
TIA

Sander
 
This is the code that caused the problem:
 
Public Function Check_1015(msgtype As String) As String
   Dim Status As String
   Dim rs, rsb As Recordset
   Dim db As Database
   Dim teller, i As Long
   Dim rv As String
 
   On Error GoTo Check_1015_Error
 
   Status = "Ok"
   If msgtype = "I" Then
...
...
      Set rsb = db.OpenRecordset("Select * from V4_GAS_Bronbestand_Verhuizingen where connect_EAN = '" & rs!Connect_EAN & "'", dbReadOnly)
      If rsb.EOF = False Then
         rv = MsgBox("Duplicate value!! Delete original record?" & vbCr _
               , vbYesNo, "Answer question")
....
 
 
 

		
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Apr 19 04:11:01 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 11:11:01 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040418175224.YQKA1810.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <20040418175224.YQKA1810.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <1918237935.20040419111101@cactus.dk>

Hi Susan

Your method looks longwinded but not weird. If it works fast and
well I would leave it, though I'm sure another method could be found
where you adjust the grouping in the report directly.

/gustav


> Well, it's clunky -- 

> 1.) User selects the first day of the week from a list of Sunday through
> Saturday. 
> 2.) User clicks a command button that opens the report and sends the above
> selected value via the OpenArgs argument. 
> 3.) The report is based on a query that calls a function that uses the value
> selected in #1 to return a weekday value for each date.
> 4.) The report's grouping is first set to year. The second level groups on
> the weekday value returned by #3. And, a third sorting level simply sorts
> the date values so it all comes out in the wash. 
> 5.) The group header contains a value that uses the openargs value in a
> DatePart expression to return the first day of the week for each group. 

> You can use the report without the form and it will default to a
> firstdayoftheweek value of 1 -- to avoid errors and to make it easier to use
> the report without going through the form -- that way you could set the
> default to anything and the user could just open the report. 

> Seems like it ought to be easier than that though -- just too much going on.


> #3's the one I don't really like. Seems like I ought to be able to get that
> weekday number in the report, and although I can -- I can't sort by it.
> Someone mentioned yesterday that you could group on a calculation, but I've
> not figured that one out yet. I tried setting it using the GroupLevel and
> GroupOn properties, but never got it to work -- not saying it won't, just I
> wasn't successful. I didn't spend much time on it though. My understanding
> of the GroupOn property is that it needs to refer to a specific integer
> value that represents the built-in levels (Month, Year, Quarter, and so on).
> I never could get it to accept a DatePart expression. 

> Susan H.  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 1:00 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report

> Hi Susan

>> I'm still not happy with the solution -- there's got to be an easier 
>> way. :)

> Maybe. What solution did you settle on?

> /gustav



From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 19 04:34:38 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 02:34:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Error 3265. Item not found in this collection?!!?
	<SOLVED>
In-Reply-To: <20040419084405.36072.qmail@web61105.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20040419093438.7994.qmail@web61102.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi group,
 
I found the freaking error. This app is sooooo buggy! There was a reference (not displayed in the code below) to a field called  Net_op_EAN...the CORRECT field name is NetOp_Ean. 
 
Question: "Has this functionality EVER worked before?" (this is a standard question for this app :-(
User response: "Yes, we use this functionality on a daily basis!"

Yeah right: Tables are empty, log is empty and output directory is empty.
 
Grrrr. Anyway its job that pays the bills.
 
Sander

S D <accessd667 at yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi group,

a user reported an error. The error message displayed the following info:
Source: DAO.Fields
Number: 3265
Description: Item not found in this collection
Call Stack: Switchdatabase.Message_Check_GAS.Check1015
Switchdatabase.Form_frm_GAS_GENERATE.cmdGenerate_Click

The line that causes the error is (see code below for details): 
rv = MsgBox("Duplicate value!! Delete original record?" & vbCr _
, vbYesNo, "Answer question")

WHY does this occur?
The user is using Win NT. The error does NOT occur on Win2000. We never had this problem before, not on NT and not on Win2000.

Please advise!

TIA

Sander

This is the code that caused the problem:

Public Function Check_1015(msgtype As String) As String
Dim Status As String
Dim rs, rsb As Recordset
Dim db As Database
Dim teller, i As Long
Dim rv As String

On Error GoTo Check_1015_Error

Status = "Ok"
If msgtype = "I" Then
...
...
Set rsb = db.OpenRecordset("Select * from V4_GAS_Bronbestand_Verhuizingen where connect_EAN = '" & rs!Connect_EAN & "'", dbReadOnly)
If rsb.EOF = False Then
rv = MsgBox("Duplicate value!! Delete original record?" & vbCr _
, vbYesNo, "Answer question")
....





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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Sun Apr 18 23:53:33 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:53:33 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
References: <20040418154437.GAQR1779.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <00c001c42608$f7e59a70$0b669a89@DDICK>

I give 'em both. Both straight data entry and a calendar
They can do data entry straight into the control or double click to get a VBA only calendar.
(Won't touch the OCX ones anymore)
I also have a small popup that provides some of the basic date ranges
IE 1st or 2nd or 3rd etc quarter of current or last year
All Year, all last year. This month, last month, Last week this week,
Next week, next month, today etc. 
All available with checkboxes.
Click a check and the dates are determined and results put into 
txtStartDate and txtEndDate controls

Works a treat

HTH

Darren

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:44 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion


> I'm writing about the ODE Calendar Control and I'm curious how many of you
> use Calendar controls in your apps. 
>  
> I've had people complain about them -- they'd actually enter the dates
> themselves because they find the break in their data entry routines annoying
> -- from a data integrity point of view I can see the value of the controls
> -- but how do you convince people to use them?
>  
> Susan H. 
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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Mon Apr 19 08:20:00 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 08:20:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Changing the table in a query so I can loop
 through	thequery
In-Reply-To: <200404181700.i3IH0MB27564@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040419081850.02b22e48@pop3.highstream.net>

Susan,

If you have 71 identical tables, you have a design problem.  Why do you 
need 71 tables with the same information?

Robert

At 12:00 PM 4/18/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 16:59:29 -0400
>From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Changing the table in a query so I can loop
>         through thequery
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID:
>         <20040417205929.PLEB1773.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net at SUSANONE>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="US-ASCII"
>
>I'm sorry, not an UPDATE, but a SQL INSERT INTO
>
>Susan H.
>
>I have an append query that can work for 71 tables.  I want to create a for
>next loop function that will substitute the table names (they are numbers)
>each time it loops.  Can someone help me?  I do not quite have the query def
>thing down and I think I need to use it here.  Each table has the same
>fields.




From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Apr 19 08:31:36 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 08:31:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] About Manuals for  your databases X posted
In-Reply-To: <8653173.1082270888748.JavaMail.root@sniper4.usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <001601c42612$a3831480$de1811d8@danwaters>

I write a manual for every process module.  Managers want them available,
and I want to be able to refer to the manual instead of being told that they
can't figure it out.  I write a Word document that contains all the detail a
user would need.  The module contains a Manual hyperlink button so it can be
pulled up at any time.  The manuals are typically 10 - 25 pages long.

I also use the manual as a QC tool for myself.  As I write it, I double
check the system to be sure it does just what the manual says.  

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 1:44 AM
To: 'ACCESS-L'; AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] About Manuals for your databases X posted

How many of you right them?
 
Do you right users and developers manuals that explain your hows and
whys?
 
In my forms, I do things like make non-visible fields red and bold just
so they are easier to see if they are buried under other controls.
 
Just wondering
 
JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Mon Apr 19 08:45:57 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 09:45:57 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <1918237935.20040419111101@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20040419134556.DMSZ1832.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

That's what I'd rather do, simply because it leaves fewer holes. 

Susan H. 

Hi Susan

Your method looks longwinded but not weird. If it works fast and well I
would leave it, though I'm sure another method could be found where you
adjust the grouping in the report directly.

/gustav


> Well, it's clunky --

> 1.) User selects the first day of the week from a list of Sunday 
> through Saturday.
> 2.) User clicks a command button that opens the report and sends the 
> above selected value via the OpenArgs argument.
> 3.) The report is based on a query that calls a function that uses the 
> value selected in #1 to return a weekday value for each date.
> 4.) The report's grouping is first set to year. The second level 
> groups on the weekday value returned by #3. And, a third sorting level 
> simply sorts the date values so it all comes out in the wash.
> 5.) The group header contains a value that uses the openargs value in 
> a DatePart expression to return the first day of the week for each group.

> You can use the report without the form and it will default to a 
> firstdayoftheweek value of 1 -- to avoid errors and to make it easier 
> to use the report without going through the form -- that way you could 
> set the default to anything and the user could just open the report.

> Seems like it ought to be easier than that though -- just too much going
on.


> #3's the one I don't really like. Seems like I ought to be able to get 
> that weekday number in the report, and although I can -- I can't sort by
it.
> Someone mentioned yesterday that you could group on a calculation, but 
> I've not figured that one out yet. I tried setting it using the 
> GroupLevel and GroupOn properties, but never got it to work -- not 
> saying it won't, just I wasn't successful. I didn't spend much time on 
> it though. My understanding of the GroupOn property is that it needs 
> to refer to a specific integer value that represents the built-in levels
(Month, Year, Quarter, and so on).
> I never could get it to accept a DatePart expression. 

> Susan H.  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav 
> Brock
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 1:00 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report

> Hi Susan

>> I'm still not happy with the solution -- there's got to be an easier 
>> way. :)

> Maybe. What solution did you settle on?

> /gustav

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Apr 19 09:04:56 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 16:04:56 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040419134556.DMSZ1832.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <20040419134556.DMSZ1832.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <12825873634.20040419160456@cactus.dk>

Hi Susan

Then, in the report, can't you sort and group by

=Weekday(YourDate, [YourSelectedFirstWeekday])

/gustav


> That's what I'd rather do, simply because it leaves fewer holes. 

> Susan H. 

> Hi Susan

> Your method looks longwinded but not weird. If it works fast and well I
> would leave it, though I'm sure another method could be found where you
> adjust the grouping in the report directly.



From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Mon Apr 19 09:42:19 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 09:42:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox content
	s
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227ADF@main2.marlow.com>

Did you try 'First'?

Again, it is going to be dependant on how Access actually 'sees' the data.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 7:12 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox
contents


Thanks, Drew and Gustav for responding.
I tried Max, but sometimes the ID I need is in the middle of the IDs.
I didn't think about using Top, I'll try that.

thanks again.
Jim 



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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 4:42 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox
contents


Hi Jim

> I have a list box with over 130 items all rows are distinct but a few
columns are duplicates.  The ListBox is sorted on two text fields which puts
the ID number out of sequence.  The ComboBox sorts
> and "Groups By" duplicate columns.  What I want to do is use the ComboBox
to jump to the first instance of one of the duplicate columns.

> e.g.

> ID      CourseName      City
> 135     CCP             EC
> 90      DIS             EC
> 87      DIS             MP
> 18      DOC             CD
> 17      DOC             SR
> 55      DSC M           AL
> 57      DSC M           EC
> 43      DSC M           MP
> 28      DSC M           SF
> 3       DSC M           SR

> What I want is:
> 135     CCP             EC
> 90      DIS             EC
> 18      DOC             CD
> 55      DSC M           AL
> 3       DSC M           SR

> What I get is:
> 135     CCP             EC
> 87      DIS             MP
> 17      DOC             SR
> 3       DSC M           SR

> What needs to be done to what the desired results?

As Drew notes, you'll have to pick the sorted values for ID and City
for each CourseName.
Two subqueries can be used for this:

<SQL>

  SELECT
    (SELECT
        TOP 1 ID
      FROM
        tblCourses AS aliC
      WHERE
        aliC.CourseName = tblCourses.CourseName
      ORDER BY
        City,
        ID DESC;) AS TopID,
    CourseName,
    (SELECT
        TOP 1 City
      FROM
        tblCourses AS aliC
      WHERE
        aliC.CourseName = tblCourses.CourseName
      ORDER BY
        City,
        ID DESC;) AS TopCity
  FROM
    tblCourses
  GROUP BY
    CourseName;

</SQL>

Have fun!

/gustav

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Mon Apr 19 09:47:47 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 09:47:47 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227AE0@main2.marlow.com>

You're quite welcome.  As soon as life settles down, I'll finish up the new
version.  Which is keyboard friendly too!

Drew

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Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 5:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion


> I use a modified version of Drew's old mini-calendar which is all VBA,
dead reliable, and very fast.
Ditto (and thanks to Drew)

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 


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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> William Hindman
> Sent: 18 April 2004 17:42
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
> 
> 
> ...first ...I don't use the ODE Calendar Control because of a 
> long history of versioning problems ...even when you wrap it 
> in a class you're app is still vulnerable ...besides it being 
> slow ...I use a modified version of Drew's old mini-calendar 
> which is all VBA, dead reliable, and very fast.
> 
> ...second (this has been discussed here recently but under 
> another thread
> topic) ...I much prefer data integrity over speed but its not 
> necessary to sacrifice one for the other ...I always force 
> user date entry from a pop-up calendar ...the calendar 
> pops-up at the bottom right of the text box with the current 
> date defaulted ...if the current date is what is required 
> ...a dblclick gets the date entered and tabs to the next 
> control ...if not, the cal responds to either mouse (slow) or 
> keyboard (fast) for date selection.
> 
> ...purists will try and tell you that such an approach slows 
> keyboarders down and they won't accept it ...I disagree 
> ...once the keyboarders get used to the keyboard strokes that 
> control the cal it is in most cases just as fast as them 
> entering it directly ...BUT ...big one ...the forced calendar 
> usage eliminates most date errors from users who enter/read 
> dates differently ...and the difference between error/dirty 
> data correction time and getting it right the first time 
> weighs heavily in favor of using a cal control over straight 
> user date entry.
> 
> William Hindman
> "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing 
> your code is a violent psychopath who knows where you live." 
> William Silverstein
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 11:44 AM
> Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
> 
> 
> > I'm writing about the ODE Calendar Control and I'm curious 
> how many of 
> > you use Calendar controls in your apps.
> >
> > I've had people complain about them -- they'd actually 
> enter the dates 
> > themselves because they find the break in their data entry routines
> annoying
> > -- from a data integrity point of view I can see the value of the 
> > controls
> > -- but how do you convince people to use them?
> >
> > Susan H.
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Apr 19 10:50:40 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 08:50:40 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] About Manuals for  your databases X posted
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312729@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I do NOT write developer manuals, although I do create user help files.
Any developer notes are in the  comments in code, but those are for me,
not for other developers ... Unless I step in front of a bus. <VBG>

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhla at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 10:44 PM
To: 'ACCESS-L'; AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] About Manuals for your databases X posted


How many of you right them?
 
Do you right users and developers manuals that explain your hows and
whys?
 
In my forms, I do things like make non-visible fields red and bold just
so they are easier to see if they are buried under other controls.
 
Just wondering
 
JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 
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From Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us  Mon Apr 19 11:28:21 2004
From: Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us (O'Connor, Patricia  )
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:28:21 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
Message-ID: <B94C79B465542042AB0748EAF37F9AC024A6BC@EXCNYSM0A1AB.nysemail.nyenet>

Rocky,

We use printkey 2000 (full). It allows us to print the entire screen,
the active window, crop, cut, then copy/paste stuff into word documents,
powerpoint, emails, etc.

Patti
 

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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 04:31 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
> 
> Dear List:
> 
> A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they 
> would like it to be 300dpi.
> 
> What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?
> 
> MTIA,
> 
> Rocky Smolin
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> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Mon Apr 19 12:17:12 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 13:17:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <12825873634.20040419160456@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20040419171712.BQCJ1779.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Gustav, I've not been able to sort by a calculated control -- wait... I
think I've been doing it wrong -- duh... <hangs head> I'm SUCH a user... ;) 

If I'm right, I'll let ya know. :) 

Susan  H. 

Hi Susan

Then, in the report, can't you sort and group by

=Weekday(YourDate, [YourSelectedFirstWeekday])

/gustav


> That's what I'd rather do, simply because it leaves fewer holes. 

> Susan H. 

> Hi Susan

> Your method looks longwinded but not weird. If it works fast and well 
> I would leave it, though I'm sure another method could be found where 
> you adjust the grouping in the report directly.

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From KIsmert at TexasSystems.com  Mon Apr 19 12:19:09 2004
From: KIsmert at TexasSystems.com (Ken Ismert)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:19:09 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Changing the table in a query so I can
	loopthrough	thequery
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040419081850.02b22e48@pop3.highstream.net>
Message-ID: <005401c42632$6d9702d0$2a3ca8c0@TEXASSYSTEMS.COM>


Well, I've been shepherding a db with almost 140 identical tables. Maybe
twice the design problem? I inherited it three years ago, and it soon became
clear that the cost to redo it 'properly' was too high. Perhaps in another
three years the opportunity will present itself.

-Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert L. Stewart [mailto:rl_stewart at highstream.net]
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 8:20 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Changing the table in a query so I can
loopthrough thequery


Susan,

If you have 71 identical tables, you have a design problem.  Why do you
need 71 tables with the same information?

Robert



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Mon Apr 19 12:28:13 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 13:28:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040419171712.BQCJ1779.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <20040419172813.BWTB1779.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Well, checked again -- unless I'm just missing something, I don't know how
to group/sort by a calculated control within the report itself.

Susan H.   

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report

Gustav, I've not been able to sort by a calculated control -- wait... I
think I've been doing it wrong -- duh... <hangs head> I'm SUCH a user... ;) 

If I'm right, I'll let ya know. :) 

Susan  H. 

Hi Susan

Then, in the report, can't you sort and group by

=Weekday(YourDate, [YourSelectedFirstWeekday])

/gustav


> That's what I'd rather do, simply because it leaves fewer holes. 

> Susan H. 

> Hi Susan

> Your method looks longwinded but not weird. If it works fast and well 
> I would leave it, though I'm sure another method could be found where 
> you adjust the grouping in the report directly.

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From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Mon Apr 19 12:46:47 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 13:46:47 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
References: <20040419171712.BQCJ1779.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <007001c42636$497dd7d0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

"I'm SUCH a user" Susan

...LOL!!! ...great line!!!

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


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From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:17 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


> Gustav, I've not been able to sort by a calculated control -- wait... I
> think I've been doing it wrong -- duh... <hangs head> I'm SUCH a user...
;)
>
> If I'm right, I'll let ya know. :)
>
> Susan  H.
>
> Hi Susan
>
> Then, in the report, can't you sort and group by
>
> =Weekday(YourDate, [YourSelectedFirstWeekday])
>
> /gustav
>
>
> > That's what I'd rather do, simply because it leaves fewer holes.
>
> > Susan H.
>
> > Hi Susan
>
> > Your method looks longwinded but not weird. If it works fast and well
> > I would leave it, though I'm sure another method could be found where
> > you adjust the grouping in the report directly.
>
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Apr 19 13:26:58 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 11:26:58 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8631272A@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Susan,

You sort/group on a calculated expression by entering that expression in
the grouping and sorting dialog

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 9:28 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


Well, checked again -- unless I'm just missing something, I don't know
how to group/sort by a calculated control within the report itself.

Susan H.   

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report

Gustav, I've not been able to sort by a calculated control -- wait... I
think I've been doing it wrong -- duh... <hangs head> I'm SUCH a user...
;) 

If I'm right, I'll let ya know. :) 

Susan  H. 

Hi Susan

Then, in the report, can't you sort and group by

=Weekday(YourDate, [YourSelectedFirstWeekday])

/gustav


> That's what I'd rather do, simply because it leaves fewer holes.

> Susan H.

> Hi Susan

> Your method looks longwinded but not weird. If it works fast and well
> I would leave it, though I'm sure another method could be found where 
> you adjust the grouping in the report directly.

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Mon Apr 19 14:20:38 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 15:20:38 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8631272A@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <20040419192038.LOVX1778.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

But I've tried and it won't take it. The OpenArgs argument passes the value
I use in all of the date functions. If I refer to is as a variable 

=DatePart("ww",field,int)

I get a parameter prompt asking for int. I even tried setting a text control
to the openargs value and referring to that

=Date("ww", field, txt)

Either way, the sorting and grouping dialog doesn't like it and shows a
parameter prompt asking for txt. 

Everything I've read says the sorting/grouping needs to refer to a field. I
was trying to avoid having to pass the firstdayoftheweek to the query
itself, but I guess that's an option. I guess I could pass the value to the
underlying query and run the week number calculation in the query, instead
of in the report.  

Susan H. 

Susan,

You sort/group on a calculated expression by entering that expression in the
grouping and sorting dialog

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 9:28 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


Well, checked again -- unless I'm just missing something, I don't know
how to group/sort by a calculated control within the report itself.

Susan H.   

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report

Gustav, I've not been able to sort by a calculated control -- wait... I
think I've been doing it wrong -- duh... <hangs head> I'm SUCH a user...
;) 

If I'm right, I'll let ya know. :) 

Susan  H. 

Hi Susan

Then, in the report, can't you sort and group by

=Weekday(YourDate, [YourSelectedFirstWeekday])

/gustav


> That's what I'd rather do, simply because it leaves fewer holes.

> Susan H.

> Hi Susan

> Your method looks longwinded but not weird. If it works fast and well
> I would leave it, though I'm sure another method could be found where 
> you adjust the grouping in the report directly.

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Apr 19 14:43:53 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:43:53 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8631272B@infoserver01.infostat.local>

You can only group and sort on a field or an expression involving a
field, and no, you can't use variables.  Had you mentioned the variable
before?  Why not just create a "week" field in the query and group and
sort on that calculated field.  Then you could use your variable to
create a filter for the particular week in question.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 11:21 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


But I've tried and it won't take it. The OpenArgs argument passes the
value I use in all of the date functions. If I refer to is as a variable


=DatePart("ww",field,int)

I get a parameter prompt asking for int. I even tried setting a text
control to the openargs value and referring to that

=Date("ww", field, txt)

Either way, the sorting and grouping dialog doesn't like it and shows a
parameter prompt asking for txt. 

Everything I've read says the sorting/grouping needs to refer to a
field. I was trying to avoid having to pass the firstdayoftheweek to the
query itself, but I guess that's an option. I guess I could pass the
value to the underlying query and run the week number calculation in the
query, instead of in the report.  

Susan H. 

Susan,

You sort/group on a calculated expression by entering that expression in
the grouping and sorting dialog

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 9:28 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


Well, checked again -- unless I'm just missing something, I don't know
how to group/sort by a calculated control within the report itself.

Susan H.   

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report

Gustav, I've not been able to sort by a calculated control -- wait... I
think I've been doing it wrong -- duh... <hangs head> I'm SUCH a user...
;) 

If I'm right, I'll let ya know. :) 

Susan  H. 

Hi Susan

Then, in the report, can't you sort and group by

=Weekday(YourDate, [YourSelectedFirstWeekday])

/gustav


> That's what I'd rather do, simply because it leaves fewer holes.

> Susan H.

> Hi Susan

> Your method looks longwinded but not weird. If it works fast and well 
> I would leave it, though I'm sure another method could be found where 
> you adjust the grouping in the report directly.

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Mon Apr 19 14:52:29 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 15:52:29 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8631272B@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <20040419195228.FRTV1779.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

 
You can only group and sort on a field or an expression involving a field,
and no, you can't use variables.  Had you mentioned the variable before?
Why not just create a "week" field in the query and group and sort on that
calculated field.  Then you could use your variable to create a filter for
the particular week in question.

============I'm passing the firstdayoftheweek value from a form to the
report -- the report's based on a query. So that's the quandry. That's what
I mentioned in my last message -- the only way I can see around it is to
pass the value to the query and run the expressions in the query first. I'm
not sure I know how to do that really -- I have never passed anything to a
query before -- just called functions from a query. And in this case, that's
what I'm trying to avoid -- calling the function from the query. 

Susan H. 



From Susan.Klos at fldoe.org  Mon Apr 19 14:39:49 2004
From: Susan.Klos at fldoe.org (Klos, Susan)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 15:39:49 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] RE: AccessD Digest, Vol 14, Issue 31
Message-ID: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51E0410CB@DOESEFPEML02.EUS.FLDOE.INT>

Robert, I need 71 identical tables because I am getting the same structure
Excel file from 71 districts.  The structure is the same but the data is
different.  I want to be able to loop through the tables and append their
records to one table.

Susan Klos
Senior Database Analyst
Evaluation and Reporting
Florida Department of Education


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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: custom sorts/groups in a report (Gustav Brock)
   2. Re: Calendar Controls -- just for discussion (William Hindman)
   3. ODE HElp problem (Susan Harkins)
   4. RE: custom sorts/groups in a report (Susan Harkins)
   5. A summary of the great Open Source discussion
      (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
   6. Re: Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
      (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
   7. Re: About Manuals for  your databases X posted
      (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
   8. Re: Calendar Controls -- just for discussion (Bryan Carbonnell)
   9. Re: Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
      (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
  10. Re: Calendar Controls -- just for discussion (Bryan Carbonnell)
  11. RE: Calendar Controls -- just for discussion (Andy Lacey)
  12. error in code (Pedro Janssen)
  13. RE: error in code (Susan Harkins)
  14. Re: error in code (Bryan Carbonnell)
  15. Re: error in code (Stuart McLachlan)
  16. RE: About Manuals for  your databases X posted (Porter, Mark)
  17. Error 3265. Item not found in this collection?!!? (S D)
  18. Re: custom sorts/groups in a report (Gustav Brock)
  19. Re: Error 3265. Item not found in this collection?!!?
      <SOLVED> (S D)
  20. Re: Calendar Controls -- just for discussion (Darren DICK)
  21. Re: Changing the table in a query so I can loop through
      thequery (Robert L. Stewart)
  22. RE: About Manuals for  your databases X posted (Dan Waters)
  23. RE: custom sorts/groups in a report (Susan Harkins)
  24. Re: custom sorts/groups in a report (Gustav Brock)
  25. RE: Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox content	s
      (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
  26. RE: Calendar Controls -- just for discussion (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
  27. RE: About Manuals for  your databases X posted (Charlotte Foust)
  28. RE: jpg Screen shot (O'Connor, Patricia  )


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 18:59:33 +0200
From: Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
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Hi Susan

> I'm still not happy with the solution -- there's got to be an easier way.
:)

Maybe. What solution did you settle on?

/gustav



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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 13:11:53 -0400
From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <002301c42568$3ec91ad0$6101a8c0 at dejpolsys>
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...I've not used the native cal for years ...but there was a period of time
with A95/97 that MS changed the way the calendar worked between a number of
versions and didn't maintain reverse compatibility ...depending upon which
version of the control your users had installed your app might or might not
work, a very common problem back then with all ActiveX controls (I don't use
any 3rd party ActiveX controls for the same reason) ...so I switched to a
vba based one and never looked back ...and no, I can't tell you the problems
have or have not been resolved ...I'm happy with my calendar ...its been
tweaked to work exactly the way I want it to :)

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 12:48 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion


> ...first ...I don't use the ODE Calendar Control because of a long history
> of versioning problems
>
> ===========I'm limited -- I write about what they want. :) So, when you
> complain of versioning problems, what do you mean?
>
> Susan H.
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 13:41:30 -0400
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
Subject: [AccessD] ODE HElp problem
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
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I just installed Office XP Developer and the Help files don't work -- the
interface is there and the toc is there -- but it isn't connecting and every
subject returns a page not found error. 
 
I don't even know where to begin to start. Anyone else had this happen?
 
Susan H. 


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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 13:52:24 -0400
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
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Well, it's clunky -- 

1.) User selects the first day of the week from a list of Sunday through
Saturday. 
2.) User clicks a command button that opens the report and sends the above
selected value via the OpenArgs argument. 
3.) The report is based on a query that calls a function that uses the value
selected in #1 to return a weekday value for each date.
4.) The report's grouping is first set to year. The second level groups on
the weekday value returned by #3. And, a third sorting level simply sorts
the date values so it all comes out in the wash. 
5.) The group header contains a value that uses the openargs value in a
DatePart expression to return the first day of the week for each group. 

You can use the report without the form and it will default to a
firstdayoftheweek value of 1 -- to avoid errors and to make it easier to use
the report without going through the form -- that way you could set the
default to anything and the user could just open the report. 

Seems like it ought to be easier than that though -- just too much going on.


#3's the one I don't really like. Seems like I ought to be able to get that
weekday number in the report, and although I can -- I can't sort by it.
Someone mentioned yesterday that you could group on a calculation, but I've
not figured that one out yet. I tried setting it using the GroupLevel and
GroupOn properties, but never got it to work -- not saying it won't, just I
wasn't successful. I didn't spend much time on it though. My understanding
of the GroupOn property is that it needs to refer to a specific integer
value that represents the built-in levels (Month, Year, Quarter, and so on).
I never could get it to accept a DatePart expression. 

Susan H.  

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 1:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report

Hi Susan

> I'm still not happy with the solution -- there's got to be an easier 
> way. :)

Maybe. What solution did you settle on?

/gustav

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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 11:43:07 -0700
From: "Jim Lawrence (AccessD)" <accessd at shaw.ca>
Subject: [AccessD] A summary of the great Open Source discussion
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
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Hi All:

A couple of weeks ago, there was an Open Source debate encapsulated much of
the points of view that have been argued for years. I was so impressed, with
the conciseness and objectiveness of the discussion that I decided to put
the results in a single page and post the summary to the DBA web site. You
can get access to the page through a link off the main page
www.databaseadvisors.com. (If your browser saves pages you may have to press
reset/reload to view the current layout.)

Thank you all for your contributions, Susan Harkin, who started the whole
thing, Stuart McLachlan, Bryan Carbonnell, Francisco H Tapia, Bruce Bruen,
Bob Hall, Drew Wutka, Marty Connelly and Arthur Fuller.

If there is anyone I overlooked or comments I missed, send me a note and you
will be appropriately accommodated.

Again, thanks to all.
Jim



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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 12:48:33 -0700
From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <00df01c4257e$2230ff80$6601a8c0 at HAL9002>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"


I use the ADH calendar and trigger it on the double-click of any date text
box.  So they can still hand enter the date if they want.  Users seem to
like the convention once they get used to it.

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 12:48 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
>
>
> > ...first ...I don't use the ODE Calendar Control because of a long
history
> > of versioning problems
> >
> > ===========I'm limited -- I write about what they want. :) So, when you
> > complain of versioning problems, what do you mean?
> >
> > Susan H.
> >
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 12:53:29 -0700
From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] About Manuals for  your databases X posted
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
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Joe:

I wrote a manual for the manufacturing system last year.  Just about
committed suicide but got it done.  For a product I think you need one.  But
for a one-shot app I never write them.

I tried to be consistent about the headings so that I could do an automatic
table of contents and that worked out pretty well.  And a different style
for the figures and tables so I could auto-produce a list of figures as
well.

Haven't done an index, however.

I'd be glad to send you a copy off-line if it would be useful to you.

HTH

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Hecht" <jmhla at earthlink.net>
To: "'ACCESS-L'" <ACCESS-L at PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM>; "AccessD"
<AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 11:44 PM
Subject: [AccessD] About Manuals for your databases X posted


> How many of you right them?
>
> Do you right users and developers manuals that explain your hows and
> whys?
>
> In my forms, I do things like make non-visible fields red and bold just
> so they are easier to see if they are buried under other controls.
>
> Just wondering
>
> JOE HECHT
> LOS ANGELES CA
>
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 15:57:53 -0400
From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
To: Access Developers discussion and problem	solving
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <4082A581.7252.F87E02 at localhost>
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On 18 Apr 2004 at 12:48, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access S wrote:

> I use the ADH calendar and trigger it on the double-click of any date
> text box.  So they can still hand enter the date if they want.  Users
> seem to like the convention once they get used to it.

I use the ADH one too. I actually place a button right beside the 
textbox so that the calendar can be opened without taking your hands 
off the keyboard.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
Don't take life too seriously. You won't get out alive.




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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 14:11:22 -0700
From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <015b01c42589$b3bde390$6601a8c0 at HAL9002>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Bryan:

So is that button the next control in the tab sequence after the text box
which would contain a date so the user can then TAB to it and press Enter?

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at sympatico.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion


> On 18 Apr 2004 at 12:48, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access S wrote:
>
> > I use the ADH calendar and trigger it on the double-click of any date
> > text box.  So they can still hand enter the date if they want.  Users
> > seem to like the convention once they get used to it.
>
> I use the ADH one too. I actually place a button right beside the
> textbox so that the calendar can be opened without taking your hands
> off the keyboard.
>
> -- 
> Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
> Don't take life too seriously. You won't get out alive.
>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 17:27:00 -0400
From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
To: Access Developers discussion and problem	solving
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <4082BA64.21526.14A13BF at localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On 18 Apr 2004 at 14:11, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access S wrote:

> So is that button the next control in the tab sequence after the text
> box which would contain a date so the user can then TAB to it and
> press Enter?

I'm not sure if enter works, I always use the space bar to activate 
the button, but yes that's the concept.

The button is the next item in the tab order. The user would press 
space/enter and the calendar form opens, or they can just tab through 
the button if they type the date manually.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
Normal people worry me.




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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 23:00:43 +0100
From: "Andy Lacey" <andy at minstersystems.co.uk>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <000601c42590$98900470$b274d0d5 at minster33c3r25>
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> I use a modified version of Drew's old mini-calendar which is all VBA,
dead reliable, and very fast.
Ditto (and thanks to Drew)

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> William Hindman
> Sent: 18 April 2004 17:42
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
> 
> 
> ...first ...I don't use the ODE Calendar Control because of a 
> long history of versioning problems ...even when you wrap it 
> in a class you're app is still vulnerable ...besides it being 
> slow ...I use a modified version of Drew's old mini-calendar 
> which is all VBA, dead reliable, and very fast.
> 
> ...second (this has been discussed here recently but under 
> another thread
> topic) ...I much prefer data integrity over speed but its not 
> necessary to sacrifice one for the other ...I always force 
> user date entry from a pop-up calendar ...the calendar 
> pops-up at the bottom right of the text box with the current 
> date defaulted ...if the current date is what is required 
> ...a dblclick gets the date entered and tabs to the next 
> control ...if not, the cal responds to either mouse (slow) or 
> keyboard (fast) for date selection.
> 
> ...purists will try and tell you that such an approach slows 
> keyboarders down and they won't accept it ...I disagree 
> ...once the keyboarders get used to the keyboard strokes that 
> control the cal it is in most cases just as fast as them 
> entering it directly ...BUT ...big one ...the forced calendar 
> usage eliminates most date errors from users who enter/read 
> dates differently ...and the difference between error/dirty 
> data correction time and getting it right the first time 
> weighs heavily in favor of using a cal control over straight 
> user date entry.
> 
> William Hindman
> "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing 
> your code is a violent psychopath who knows where you live." 
> William Silverstein
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 11:44 AM
> Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
> 
> 
> > I'm writing about the ODE Calendar Control and I'm curious 
> how many of 
> > you use Calendar controls in your apps.
> >
> > I've had people complain about them -- they'd actually 
> enter the dates 
> > themselves because they find the break in their data entry routines
> annoying
> > -- from a data integrity point of view I can see the value of the 
> > controls
> > -- but how do you convince people to use them?
> >
> > Susan H.
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> 
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 00:17:55 +0200
From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
Subject: [AccessD] error in code
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <000801c42593$219ec510$f4c581d5 at pedro>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Hello Group,

why isn't this part of a code not working

for i  = 1 To 9
If "chb" & i & "c31") = True Then
    .Item("Code" & i).Value = "**     geen code"
End If
Next i

the error is:  Error 13, Description:  Type Mismatch


TIA

Pedro Janssen




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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 18:41:41 -0400
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] error in code
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
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	<20040418224141.TSEN1714.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net at SUSANONE>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="US-ASCII"

 
for i  = 1 To 9
If "chb" & i & "c31") = True Then

Your condition is never going to equal true -- but rather a cancatenated
string. Although, I think the code's missing soemthing -- you've got a )
that doesn't make sense in its position, but I suspect that's just a typo
and probably isn't your actual error is it?

Susan H. 



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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 18:46:46 -0400
From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] error in code
To: Access Developers discussion and problem	solving
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <4082CD16.31909.1931CA1 at localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On 19 Apr 2004 at 0:17, Pedro Janssen wrote:

> why isn't this part of a code not working
> 
> for i  = 1 To 9
> If "chb" & i & "c31") = True Then
>     .Item("Code" & i).Value = "**     geen code"
> End If
> Next i

Pedro,

I am assuming that chb* are checkboxes. If so, try:

If me.controls("chb" & i & "c31") = True Then

You also have a closing ) on the ofiginal If Then line.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
I am a nobody, and nobody is perfect; therefore, I am perfect.




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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 09:52:42 +1000
From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] error in code
To: Access Developers discussion and problem	solving
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <4083A16A.23848.32CE49 at localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On 19 Apr 2004 at 0:17, Pedro Janssen wrote:

> Hello Group,
> 
> why isn't this part of a code not working
> 
> for i  = 1 To 9
> If "chb" & i & "c31") = True Then
>     .Item("Code" & i).Value = "**     geen code"
> End If
> Next i
> 
> the error is:  Error 13, Description:  Type Mismatch
> 

Apart from the problems mentioned by others (the missing "(",  the 
missing "me.controls" or "." before "chb1"),  this will result in 
spaces in your control names ie "chb 1c31" to "chb 9c31" and "Code 1" 
to "Code 9"

UNless you do have spaces in the control names, you need to use 
Format(i) or similar to get rid of the leading space.



 
-- 
Lexacorp Ltd
http://www.lexacorp.com.pg
Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System 
Support.





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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 15:42:33 -0800
From: "Porter, Mark" <MPorter at acsalaska.com>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] About Manuals for  your databases X posted
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID:
	
<BFBC9BAC6169D411890000508BAE2C5304246E84 at acsexch4.corp.acsalaska.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

I charge the same hourly rate for documentation as I do for coding.

Then I strongly suggest that they produce their own.  I've never been asked
to produce documentation (user docs) yet.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhla at earthlink.net]
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 10:44 PM
To: 'ACCESS-L'; AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] About Manuals for your databases X posted


How many of you right them?
 
Do you right users and developers manuals that explain your hows and
whys?
 
In my forms, I do things like make non-visible fields red and bold just
so they are easier to see if they are buried under other controls.
 
Just wondering
 
JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 01:44:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: S D <accessd667 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [AccessD] Error 3265. Item not found in this collection?!!?
To: accessd <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <20040419084405.36072.qmail at web61105.mail.yahoo.com>
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Hi group,
 
a user reported an error. The error message displayed the following info:
Source: DAO.Fields
Number: 3265
Description: Item not found in this collection
Call Stack: Switchdatabase.Message_Check_GAS.Check1015
                 Switchdatabase.Form_frm_GAS_GENERATE.cmdGenerate_Click
 
The line that causes the error is (see code below for details): 
rv = MsgBox("Duplicate value!! Delete original record?" & vbCr _
               , vbYesNo, "Answer question")
 
WHY does this occur?
The user is using Win NT. The error does NOT occur on Win2000. We never had
this problem before, not on NT and not on Win2000.
 
Please advise!
 
TIA

Sander
 
This is the code that caused the problem:
 
Public Function Check_1015(msgtype As String) As String
   Dim Status As String
   Dim rs, rsb As Recordset
   Dim db As Database
   Dim teller, i As Long
   Dim rv As String
 
   On Error GoTo Check_1015_Error
 
   Status = "Ok"
   If msgtype = "I" Then
...
...
      Set rsb = db.OpenRecordset("Select * from
V4_GAS_Bronbestand_Verhuizingen where connect_EAN = '" & rs!Connect_EAN &
"'", dbReadOnly)
      If rsb.EOF = False Then
         rv = MsgBox("Duplicate value!! Delete original record?" & vbCr _
               , vbYesNo, "Answer question")
....
 
 
 

		
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 11:11:01 +0200
From: Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <1918237935.20040419111101 at cactus.dk>
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Hi Susan

Your method looks longwinded but not weird. If it works fast and
well I would leave it, though I'm sure another method could be found
where you adjust the grouping in the report directly.

/gustav


> Well, it's clunky -- 

> 1.) User selects the first day of the week from a list of Sunday through
> Saturday. 
> 2.) User clicks a command button that opens the report and sends the above
> selected value via the OpenArgs argument. 
> 3.) The report is based on a query that calls a function that uses the
value
> selected in #1 to return a weekday value for each date.
> 4.) The report's grouping is first set to year. The second level groups on
> the weekday value returned by #3. And, a third sorting level simply sorts
> the date values so it all comes out in the wash. 
> 5.) The group header contains a value that uses the openargs value in a
> DatePart expression to return the first day of the week for each group. 

> You can use the report without the form and it will default to a
> firstdayoftheweek value of 1 -- to avoid errors and to make it easier to
use
> the report without going through the form -- that way you could set the
> default to anything and the user could just open the report. 

> Seems like it ought to be easier than that though -- just too much going
on.


> #3's the one I don't really like. Seems like I ought to be able to get
that
> weekday number in the report, and although I can -- I can't sort by it.
> Someone mentioned yesterday that you could group on a calculation, but
I've
> not figured that one out yet. I tried setting it using the GroupLevel and
> GroupOn properties, but never got it to work -- not saying it won't, just
I
> wasn't successful. I didn't spend much time on it though. My understanding
> of the GroupOn property is that it needs to refer to a specific integer
> value that represents the built-in levels (Month, Year, Quarter, and so
on).
> I never could get it to accept a DatePart expression. 

> Susan H.  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 1:00 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report

> Hi Susan

>> I'm still not happy with the solution -- there's got to be an easier 
>> way. :)

> Maybe. What solution did you settle on?

> /gustav



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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 02:34:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: S D <accessd667 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Error 3265. Item not found in this
	collection?!!?	<SOLVED>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <20040419093438.7994.qmail at web61102.mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hi group,
 
I found the freaking error. This app is sooooo buggy! There was a reference
(not displayed in the code below) to a field called  Net_op_EAN...the
CORRECT field name is NetOp_Ean. 
 
Question: "Has this functionality EVER worked before?" (this is a standard
question for this app :-(
User response: "Yes, we use this functionality on a daily basis!"

Yeah right: Tables are empty, log is empty and output directory is empty.
 
Grrrr. Anyway its job that pays the bills.
 
Sander

S D <accessd667 at yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi group,

a user reported an error. The error message displayed the following info:
Source: DAO.Fields
Number: 3265
Description: Item not found in this collection
Call Stack: Switchdatabase.Message_Check_GAS.Check1015
Switchdatabase.Form_frm_GAS_GENERATE.cmdGenerate_Click

The line that causes the error is (see code below for details): 
rv = MsgBox("Duplicate value!! Delete original record?" & vbCr _
, vbYesNo, "Answer question")

WHY does this occur?
The user is using Win NT. The error does NOT occur on Win2000. We never had
this problem before, not on NT and not on Win2000.

Please advise!

TIA

Sander

This is the code that caused the problem:

Public Function Check_1015(msgtype As String) As String
Dim Status As String
Dim rs, rsb As Recordset
Dim db As Database
Dim teller, i As Long
Dim rv As String

On Error GoTo Check_1015_Error

Status = "Ok"
If msgtype = "I" Then
...
...
Set rsb = db.OpenRecordset("Select * from V4_GAS_Bronbestand_Verhuizingen
where connect_EAN = '" & rs!Connect_EAN & "'", dbReadOnly)
If rsb.EOF = False Then
rv = MsgBox("Duplicate value!! Delete original record?" & vbCr _
, vbYesNo, "Answer question")
....





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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:53:33 +1000
From: "Darren DICK" <d.dick at uws.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <00c001c42608$f7e59a70$0b669a89 at DDICK>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

I give 'em both. Both straight data entry and a calendar
They can do data entry straight into the control or double click to get a
VBA only calendar.
(Won't touch the OCX ones anymore)
I also have a small popup that provides some of the basic date ranges
IE 1st or 2nd or 3rd etc quarter of current or last year
All Year, all last year. This month, last month, Last week this week,
Next week, next month, today etc. 
All available with checkboxes.
Click a check and the dates are determined and results put into 
txtStartDate and txtEndDate controls

Works a treat

HTH

Darren

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:44 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion


> I'm writing about the ODE Calendar Control and I'm curious how many of you
> use Calendar controls in your apps. 
>  
> I've had people complain about them -- they'd actually enter the dates
> themselves because they find the break in their data entry routines
annoying
> -- from a data integrity point of view I can see the value of the controls
> -- but how do you convince people to use them?
>  
> Susan H. 
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Message: 21
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 08:20:00 -0500
From: "Robert L. Stewart" <rl_stewart at highstream.net>
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Changing the table in a query so I can loop
	through	thequery
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040419081850.02b22e48 at pop3.highstream.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

Susan,

If you have 71 identical tables, you have a design problem.  Why do you 
need 71 tables with the same information?

Robert

At 12:00 PM 4/18/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 16:59:29 -0400
>From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Changing the table in a query so I can loop
>         through thequery
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID:
>         <20040417205929.PLEB1773.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net at SUSANONE>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="US-ASCII"
>
>I'm sorry, not an UPDATE, but a SQL INSERT INTO
>
>Susan H.
>
>I have an append query that can work for 71 tables.  I want to create a for
>next loop function that will substitute the table names (they are numbers)
>each time it loops.  Can someone help me?  I do not quite have the query
def
>thing down and I think I need to use it here.  Each table has the same
>fields.




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Message: 22
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 08:31:36 -0500
From: "Dan Waters" <dwaters at usinternet.com>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] About Manuals for  your databases X posted
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <001601c42612$a3831480$de1811d8 at danwaters>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

I write a manual for every process module.  Managers want them available,
and I want to be able to refer to the manual instead of being told that they
can't figure it out.  I write a Word document that contains all the detail a
user would need.  The module contains a Manual hyperlink button so it can be
pulled up at any time.  The manuals are typically 10 - 25 pages long.

I also use the manual as a QC tool for myself.  As I write it, I double
check the system to be sure it does just what the manual says.  

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 1:44 AM
To: 'ACCESS-L'; AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] About Manuals for your databases X posted

How many of you right them?
 
Do you right users and developers manuals that explain your hows and
whys?
 
In my forms, I do things like make non-visible fields red and bold just
so they are easier to see if they are buried under other controls.
 
Just wondering
 
JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 
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Message: 23
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 09:45:57 -0400
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID:
	<20040419134556.DMSZ1832.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net at SUSANONE>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="US-ASCII"

That's what I'd rather do, simply because it leaves fewer holes. 

Susan H. 

Hi Susan

Your method looks longwinded but not weird. If it works fast and well I
would leave it, though I'm sure another method could be found where you
adjust the grouping in the report directly.

/gustav


> Well, it's clunky --

> 1.) User selects the first day of the week from a list of Sunday 
> through Saturday.
> 2.) User clicks a command button that opens the report and sends the 
> above selected value via the OpenArgs argument.
> 3.) The report is based on a query that calls a function that uses the 
> value selected in #1 to return a weekday value for each date.
> 4.) The report's grouping is first set to year. The second level 
> groups on the weekday value returned by #3. And, a third sorting level 
> simply sorts the date values so it all comes out in the wash.
> 5.) The group header contains a value that uses the openargs value in 
> a DatePart expression to return the first day of the week for each group.

> You can use the report without the form and it will default to a 
> firstdayoftheweek value of 1 -- to avoid errors and to make it easier 
> to use the report without going through the form -- that way you could 
> set the default to anything and the user could just open the report.

> Seems like it ought to be easier than that though -- just too much going
on.


> #3's the one I don't really like. Seems like I ought to be able to get 
> that weekday number in the report, and although I can -- I can't sort by
it.
> Someone mentioned yesterday that you could group on a calculation, but 
> I've not figured that one out yet. I tried setting it using the 
> GroupLevel and GroupOn properties, but never got it to work -- not 
> saying it won't, just I wasn't successful. I didn't spend much time on 
> it though. My understanding of the GroupOn property is that it needs 
> to refer to a specific integer value that represents the built-in levels
(Month, Year, Quarter, and so on).
> I never could get it to accept a DatePart expression. 

> Susan H.  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav 
> Brock
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 1:00 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report

> Hi Susan

>> I'm still not happy with the solution -- there's got to be an easier 
>> way. :)

> Maybe. What solution did you settle on?

> /gustav

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Message: 24
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 16:04:56 +0200
From: Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <12825873634.20040419160456 at cactus.dk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hi Susan

Then, in the report, can't you sort and group by

=Weekday(YourDate, [YourSelectedFirstWeekday])

/gustav


> That's what I'd rather do, simply because it leaves fewer holes. 

> Susan H. 

> Hi Susan

> Your method looks longwinded but not weird. If it works fast and well I
> would leave it, though I'm sure another method could be found where you
> adjust the grouping in the report directly.



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Message: 25
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 09:42:19 -0500
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox
	content	s
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Message-ID:
	<2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227ADF at main2.marlow.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Did you try 'First'?

Again, it is going to be dependant on how Access actually 'sees' the data.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 7:12 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox
contents


Thanks, Drew and Gustav for responding.
I tried Max, but sometimes the ID I need is in the middle of the IDs.
I didn't think about using Top, I'll try that.

thanks again.
Jim 



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 4:42 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sorting and restricting ComboBox on ListBox
contents


Hi Jim

> I have a list box with over 130 items all rows are distinct but a few
columns are duplicates.  The ListBox is sorted on two text fields which puts
the ID number out of sequence.  The ComboBox sorts
> and "Groups By" duplicate columns.  What I want to do is use the ComboBox
to jump to the first instance of one of the duplicate columns.

> e.g.

> ID      CourseName      City
> 135     CCP             EC
> 90      DIS             EC
> 87      DIS             MP
> 18      DOC             CD
> 17      DOC             SR
> 55      DSC M           AL
> 57      DSC M           EC
> 43      DSC M           MP
> 28      DSC M           SF
> 3       DSC M           SR

> What I want is:
> 135     CCP             EC
> 90      DIS             EC
> 18      DOC             CD
> 55      DSC M           AL
> 3       DSC M           SR

> What I get is:
> 135     CCP             EC
> 87      DIS             MP
> 17      DOC             SR
> 3       DSC M           SR

> What needs to be done to what the desired results?

As Drew notes, you'll have to pick the sorted values for ID and City
for each CourseName.
Two subqueries can be used for this:

<SQL>

  SELECT
    (SELECT
        TOP 1 ID
      FROM
        tblCourses AS aliC
      WHERE
        aliC.CourseName = tblCourses.CourseName
      ORDER BY
        City,
        ID DESC;) AS TopID,
    CourseName,
    (SELECT
        TOP 1 City
      FROM
        tblCourses AS aliC
      WHERE
        aliC.CourseName = tblCourses.CourseName
      ORDER BY
        City,
        ID DESC;) AS TopCity
  FROM
    tblCourses
  GROUP BY
    CourseName;

</SQL>

Have fun!

/gustav

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Message: 26
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 09:47:47 -0500
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Message-ID:
	<2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227AE0 at main2.marlow.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

You're quite welcome.  As soon as life settles down, I'll finish up the new
version.  Which is keyboard friendly too!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 5:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion


> I use a modified version of Drew's old mini-calendar which is all VBA,
dead reliable, and very fast.
Ditto (and thanks to Drew)

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> William Hindman
> Sent: 18 April 2004 17:42
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
> 
> 
> ...first ...I don't use the ODE Calendar Control because of a 
> long history of versioning problems ...even when you wrap it 
> in a class you're app is still vulnerable ...besides it being 
> slow ...I use a modified version of Drew's old mini-calendar 
> which is all VBA, dead reliable, and very fast.
> 
> ...second (this has been discussed here recently but under 
> another thread
> topic) ...I much prefer data integrity over speed but its not 
> necessary to sacrifice one for the other ...I always force 
> user date entry from a pop-up calendar ...the calendar 
> pops-up at the bottom right of the text box with the current 
> date defaulted ...if the current date is what is required 
> ...a dblclick gets the date entered and tabs to the next 
> control ...if not, the cal responds to either mouse (slow) or 
> keyboard (fast) for date selection.
> 
> ...purists will try and tell you that such an approach slows 
> keyboarders down and they won't accept it ...I disagree 
> ...once the keyboarders get used to the keyboard strokes that 
> control the cal it is in most cases just as fast as them 
> entering it directly ...BUT ...big one ...the forced calendar 
> usage eliminates most date errors from users who enter/read 
> dates differently ...and the difference between error/dirty 
> data correction time and getting it right the first time 
> weighs heavily in favor of using a cal control over straight 
> user date entry.
> 
> William Hindman
> "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing 
> your code is a violent psychopath who knows where you live." 
> William Silverstein
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 11:44 AM
> Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
> 
> 
> > I'm writing about the ODE Calendar Control and I'm curious 
> how many of 
> > you use Calendar controls in your apps.
> >
> > I've had people complain about them -- they'd actually 
> enter the dates 
> > themselves because they find the break in their data entry routines
> annoying
> > -- from a data integrity point of view I can see the value of the 
> > controls
> > -- but how do you convince people to use them?
> >
> > Susan H.
> > --
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> 
> 
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Message: 27
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 08:50:40 -0700
From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] About Manuals for  your databases X posted
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
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Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

I do NOT write developer manuals, although I do create user help files.
Any developer notes are in the  comments in code, but those are for me,
not for other developers ... Unless I step in front of a bus. <VBG>

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhla at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 10:44 PM
To: 'ACCESS-L'; AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] About Manuals for your databases X posted


How many of you right them?
 
Do you right users and developers manuals that explain your hows and
whys?
 
In my forms, I do things like make non-visible fields red and bold just
so they are easier to see if they are buried under other controls.
 
Just wondering
 
JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 
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Message: 28
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:28:21 -0400
From: "O'Connor, Patricia  " <Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID:
	
<B94C79B465542042AB0748EAF37F9AC024A6BC at EXCNYSM0A1AB.nysemail.nyenet>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="US-ASCII"

Rocky,

We use printkey 2000 (full). It allows us to print the entire screen,
the active window, crop, cut, then copy/paste stuff into word documents,
powerpoint, emails, etc.

Patti
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 04:31 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
> 
> Dear List:
> 
> A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they 
> would like it to be 300dpi.
> 
> What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?
> 
> MTIA,
> 
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 16:10:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Report Page Header
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB78@nnse14.nns.com>

First, a really stupid question...why is it that Access reports do not have
a "Detail Header" section?  It seems simple and to the point for a lot of
what I do when grouping is not needed.


Second, when printing a report, what is the syntax to check if there are no
detail records on the page and suppress the Page Header if there are none?



Mark


From Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us  Mon Apr 19 15:30:34 2004
From: Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us (O'Connor, Patricia  )
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 16:30:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] RE: AccessD Digest, Vol 14, Issue 31
Message-ID: <B94C79B465542042AB0748EAF37F9AC024A6BF@EXCNYSM0A1AB.nysemail.nyenet>

Susan
Are you using VB or are you using the import wizard.  Do you have the
code for getting a table? I do something similar but with text files. 

What are the name of the files? 

Patti  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Klos, Susan
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 03:40 PM
> To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
> Subject: [AccessD] RE: AccessD Digest, Vol 14, Issue 31
> 
> Robert, I need 71 identical tables because I am getting the 
> same structure
> Excel file from 71 districts.  The structure is the same but 
> the data is
> different.  I want to be able to loop through the tables and 
> append their
> records to one table.
> 
> Susan Klos
> Senior Database Analyst
> Evaluation and Reporting
> Florida Department of Education
> 
> 



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Apr 19 15:29:56 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 13:29:56 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8632C53D@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Sorry, Susan, but I just tuned in. <g>  

I'm not clear on what you're doing so I'm not being much help.  I do
dynamic reports for a week period and pass the start date to my report
then let the report determine what day that is and populate an
appropriate series of label captions to match.  I base it on a crosstab
query, rebuilt for each report run, that uses dates as column headings
and uses parameters to filter the dates.  I set the SQL for that
crosstab query each time I use a form to call the report (no hand
tweaking), and I generate an IN list of dates in the specified range to
create the column headings.  I then use code in the Report_Open event to
determine which field to bind to which control in the detail of the
report.  Is that kind of what you're attempting to do?   

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 11:52 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


 
You can only group and sort on a field or an expression involving a
field, and no, you can't use variables.  Had you mentioned the variable
before? Why not just create a "week" field in the query and group and
sort on that calculated field.  Then you could use your variable to
create a filter for the particular week in question.

============I'm passing the firstdayoftheweek value from a form to the
report -- the report's based on a query. So that's the quandry. That's
what I mentioned in my last message -- the only way I can see around it
is to pass the value to the query and run the expressions in the query
first. I'm not sure I know how to do that really -- I have never passed
anything to a query before -- just called functions from a query. And in
this case, that's what I'm trying to avoid -- calling the function from
the query. 

Susan H. 

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Mon Apr 19 15:41:16 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 16:41:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8632C53D@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <20040419204116.NEMD1818.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Egads... :)

All  I want is to group/sort a report based on the week -- but the first day
of the week needs to be dynamic. The user chooses the first day of the week
and the report sorts/groups accordingly. For instance, if the user chooses
Wednesday, each group begins with a Wed and ends with a Tuesday. 

Right now, the process begins with the simple "pick a day" form, which runs
the report -- that's based on a query that calls a function to return the
"ww" component for each date in the query, so the report can then group on
that value -- in the report that Jack built. 

Seems like a long way around to go to me. It does work and it isn't horribly
slow or anything. It just seems inefficient to me that I can't get all that
done in the report or the query without the aid of calling that function.
That's where the openargs comes in -- I've tried passing the
firstdayoftheweek value to the report and calculating the "ww" components in
the report, but I can't get the report to then sort on those "ww" values
because of the sorting limitations. 

I just don't believe that the solution I've come up with is the most
efficient, even if it does work. 

Susan H. 

Sorry, Susan, but I just tuned in. <g>  

I'm not clear on what you're doing so I'm not being much help.  I do dynamic
reports for a week period and pass the start date to my report then let the
report determine what day that is and populate an appropriate series of
label captions to match.  I base it on a crosstab query, rebuilt for each
report run, that uses dates as column headings and uses parameters to filter
the dates.  I set the SQL for that crosstab query each time I use a form to
call the report (no hand tweaking), and I generate an IN list of dates in
the specified range to create the column headings.  I then use code in the
Report_Open event to determine which field to bind to which control in the
detail of the
report.  Is that kind of what you're attempting to do?   

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 11:52 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


 
You can only group and sort on a field or an expression involving a
field, and no, you can't use variables.  Had you mentioned the variable
before? Why not just create a "week" field in the query and group and
sort on that calculated field.  Then you could use your variable to
create a filter for the particular week in question.

============I'm passing the firstdayoftheweek value from a form to the
report -- the report's based on a query. So that's the quandry. That's
what I mentioned in my last message -- the only way I can see around it
is to pass the value to the query and run the expressions in the query
first. I'm not sure I know how to do that really -- I have never passed
anything to a query before -- just called functions from a query. And in
this case, that's what I'm trying to avoid -- calling the function from
the query. 

Susan H. 

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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Mon Apr 19 15:52:39 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 15:52:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Changing the table in a query so I can
	loopthrough	thequery
In-Reply-To: <200404192042.i3JKg7B23548@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040419155057.02af21f8@pop3.highstream.net>

Ken,

You have been in my SIG long enough to know that is a resounding YES, it is 
a bad design.  But, do you actually populate all 140 tables with the same 
data like she is doing?

Robert

At 03:42 PM 4/19/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:19:09 -0500
>From: "Ken Ismert" <KIsmert at TexasSystems.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: Changing the table in a query so I can
>         loopthrough     thequery
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <005401c42632$6d9702d0$2a3ca8c0 at TEXASSYSTEMS.COM>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>
>Well, I've been shepherding a db with almost 140 identical tables. Maybe
>twice the design problem? I inherited it three years ago, and it soon became
>clear that the cost to redo it 'properly' was too high. Perhaps in another
>three years the opportunity will present itself.
>
>-Ken




From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Mon Apr 19 15:56:43 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 15:56:43 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Changing the table in a query so I can
	loopthrough	thequery
In-Reply-To: <200404192042.i3JKg7B23548@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040419155452.048d1d10@pop3.highstream.net>

Susan,

 From what I read below, you can distinguish which excel file is from which 
district.  Why not just append them to the single table and use the 
distinguishing factor to pass in the value of the "district" as part of the 
INSERT SQL statement?

Robert

At 03:42 PM 4/19/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 15:39:49 -0400
>From: "Klos, Susan" <Susan.Klos at fldoe.org>
>Subject: [AccessD] RE: AccessD Digest, Vol 14, Issue 31
>To: "'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID:
>         <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51E0410CB at DOESEFPEML02.EUS.FLDOE.INT>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Robert, I need 71 identical tables because I am getting the same structure
>Excel file from 71 districts.  The structure is the same but the data is
>different.  I want to be able to loop through the tables and append their
>records to one table.
>
>Susan Klos
>Senior Database Analyst
>Evaluation and Reporting
>Florida Department of Education




From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Mon Apr 19 16:01:02 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 16:01:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Report Page Header
In-Reply-To: <200404192042.i3JKg7B23548@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040419155819.049243e0@pop3.highstream.net>

In a band report writer, which Access is, the detail header is in the 
grouping header just above it.  You have to make it visible.

There is a event in the report for No data.  You would put code in that 
event to handle what ever you wanted to do there.

Robert

At 03:42 PM 4/19/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 16:10:22 -0400
>From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
>Subject: [AccessD] Report Page Header
>To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at DatabaseAdvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB78 at nnse14.nns.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain
>
>First, a really stupid question...why is it that Access reports do not have
>a "Detail Header" section?  It seems simple and to the point for a lot of
>what I do when grouping is not needed.
>
>
>Second, when printing a report, what is the syntax to check if there are no
>detail records on the page and suppress the Page Header if there are none?
>
>




From MPorter at acsalaska.com  Mon Apr 19 15:47:10 2004
From: MPorter at acsalaska.com (Porter, Mark)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:47:10 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] RE: AccessD Digest, Vol 14, Issue 31
Message-ID: <BFBC9BAC6169D411890000508BAE2C5304246E92@acsexch4.corp.acsalaska.com>


Susan,

I have not seen your prior conversation, and have no knowledge of other
details on this outside of this post, but if this solution was presented to
me I would be very inclined to rethink it.

Although you have multiple input files, you only have a single file
structure to deal with.  I would recommend pulling all files into a single
table initially, with an extra field in the table indicating the source or
district.

This leaves you with one import routine (file name and path as a paramater)
and one data structure to deal with.

Ask yourself, what happens when they restructure or add districts in the
future?  Or when you have to alter the data structure for any reason?  Your
structure quickly becomes a monster requiring exponentially more support.

If you have to perform complex data cleansing on the base data before it is
appended to the single master table, you can utilize a single staging table
for your file load, and a cleansing routine for your append.

Mark

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Klos, Susan [mailto:Susan.Klos at fldoe.org]
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 11:40 AM
> To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
> Subject: [AccessD] RE: AccessD Digest, Vol 14, Issue 31
> 
> 
> Robert, I need 71 identical tables because I am getting the 
> same structure
> Excel file from 71 districts.  The structure is the same but 
> the data is
> different.  I want to be able to loop through the tables and 
> append their
> records to one table.
> 
> Susan Klos
> Senior Database Analyst
> Evaluation and Reporting
> Florida Department of Education
> 
> 

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Apr 19 16:10:41 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:10:41 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Report Page Header
References: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB78@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <01f901c42652$c5c0fef0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Mark:

Do you mean no data for the whole report?  If so you can use the No Data
event and issue a DoCmd.CancelEvent command.  That will cancel the whole
report.  Mostly I then have to trap the error 2105 in the calling form.

But what condition would give you  on some detail records on some pages and
not others?

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:10 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Report Page Header


> First, a really stupid question...why is it that Access reports do not
have
> a "Detail Header" section?  It seems simple and to the point for a lot of
> what I do when grouping is not needed.
>
>
> Second, when printing a report, what is the syntax to check if there are
no
> detail records on the page and suppress the Page Header if there are none?
>
>
>
> Mark
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From Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us  Mon Apr 19 16:24:03 2004
From: Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us (O'Connor, Patricia  )
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 17:24:03 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] RE: AccessD Digest, Vol 14, Issue 31
Message-ID: <B94C79B465542042AB0748EAF37F9AC024A6C1@EXCNYSM0A1AB.nysemail.nyenet>

SUSAN


OOPS - read your post wrong - I have input files from the counties that
go into ONE table. I use the county id code to identify where it came
from as I insert the the records into the table.

You really should only have 1 table if all the data is the same at the
end point.  I can understand having several input files since ours come
in at different times.

Patti
-----------------------------------------------------------------

Susan
Are you using VB or are you using the import wizard.  Do you have the
code for getting a table? I do something similar but with text files. 

What are the name of the files? 

Patti  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Klos, Susan
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 03:40 PM
> To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
> Subject: [AccessD] RE: AccessD Digest, Vol 14, Issue 31
> 
> Robert, I need 71 identical tables because I am getting the 
> same structure
> Excel file from 71 districts.  The structure is the same but 
> the data is
> different.  I want to be able to loop through the tables and 
> append their
> records to one table.
> 
> Susan Klos
> Senior Database Analyst
> Evaluation and Reporting
> Florida Department of Education
> 
> 

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From pedro at plex.nl  Mon Apr 19 16:59:19 2004
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 23:59:19 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] error in code
References: <4082CD16.31909.1931CA1@localhost>
Message-ID: <000501c42659$b1a8c8b0$f7c581d5@pedro>

Hello,

thanks for those who responded.

Me.Controls and getting rid of the spaces did the trick.


Pedro Janssen




----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at sympatico.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problemsolving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] error in code


> On 19 Apr 2004 at 0:17, Pedro Janssen wrote:
>
> > why isn't this part of a code not working
> >
> > for i  = 1 To 9
> > If "chb" & i & "c31") = True Then
> >     .Item("Code" & i).Value = "**     geen code"
> > End If
> > Next i
>
> Pedro,
>
> I am assuming that chb* are checkboxes. If so, try:
>
> If me.controls("chb" & i & "c31") = True Then
>
> You also have a closing ) on the ofiginal If Then line.
>
> --
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> I am a nobody, and nobody is perfect; therefore, I am perfect.
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Apr 19 22:12:18 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 23:12:18 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] RE: AccessD Digest, Vol 14, Issue 31
In-Reply-To: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51E0410CB@DOESEFPEML02.EUS.FLDOE.INT>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPOEMGHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Susan,

The way that I deal with this is that I COPY the file to a common name,
perhaps CountyData.XLS.  Then I link that file to the FE.  Build my queries
to suck the data out.  Run them.  Then there is just a copy of whatever the
next file name is to CountyData.XLS and run the queries over again.  You
need a means of interpreting some part of the original file name so that you
can set the "county field".  Do that 71 times and you are done.  One table
name, one set of queries, one function for pulling the county name into an
aliased query field, one routine that copies the file to a common name /
location.

Is this a manual process?  Is there a naming convention in the excel files?

If not just throw all of the excel files in a directory, copy each one out
to an archive directory, adding the yyyymmdd string to the name, either at
the beginning or the end (helps sort the files in date order).  Also do the
copy to a common location / name.  Now write an iterator that finds every
file in the directory and copies it to archive / common name - location,
deleting the file in the original directory.  When no files remain, you are
done.  In order to do this you must have some identifying string in the file
name however, perhaps the county name as the first N characters.  That
allows the code to build the "missing" field that is the county in the
destination table.


John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Klos, Susan
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 3:40 PM
To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: [AccessD] RE: AccessD Digest, Vol 14, Issue 31


Robert, I need 71 identical tables because I am getting the same structure
Excel file from 71 districts.  The structure is the same but the data is
different.  I want to be able to loop through the tables and append their
records to one table.

Susan Klos
Senior Database Analyst
Evaluation and Reporting
Florida Department of Education





From jmhla at earthlink.net  Tue Apr 20 00:09:41 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 22:09:41 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] cbo after adding data question
Message-ID: <000501c42695$b3109ed0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

I have a combo box that pulls up matching records on a form. The data source
is a SQL statement not a query.

 

After the record is entered where and how should I write the requry
statement to add the record to the combo box?

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

 



From pharryecoenen at btinternet.com  Tue Apr 20 02:51:45 2004
From: pharryecoenen at btinternet.com (Harry Coenen)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 08:51:45 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] RE: AccessD Digest, Vol 14, Issue 31
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPOEMGHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAL9Kwp6bii0K2NXFiQtqufcKAAAAQAAAAKu5k4g7hUEajBNQ1qK/uaQEAAAAA@btinternet.com>

Dear Susan 

My 2 eurocents, after Jonh Colby's two dollars:

Assuming the following procedure:
For each period:
a. dump all files in a standard period directory
b. get access to read the directory until there are no files left
(probably it is usefull to read all the filenames in a table and use this
thable for further processing)
For each file in directory
c. attach each table to the database
d. run the append
Next file
Next period

Following the code for the append

'+*define vars
dim strInsertTable as string
dim strFromTable as string
dim strSQL, strSQLinsert, strSQLselect, strSQLfrom, strSQLcriteria as string
'-*define vars
'+*Initialise vars
strFromTable = "tblFromData"
strInsertTable = "tblInsertedData"
strSQL =""
strSQLinsert = ""
strSQLselect = ""
strSQLfrom = ""
strSQLcriteria = ""
'-*Initialise vars

'create query string
strSQLinsert = strSQLinsert & " INSERT INTO [" & strInsertTable & "] (
SourceTableName, CustID, CustName ) "
strSQLselect = strSQLselect & " SELECT "
strSQLselect = strSQLselect & "'" & strFromTable & "' AS FromTable, "
strSQLselect = strSQLselect & "[" & strFromTable & "].CustID, " 
strSQLselect = strSQLselect & "[" & strFromTable & "].CustName "
strSQLfrom = strSQLfrom & " FROM " & strFromTable

strSQL = strSQLinsert & strSQLselect & strSQLfrom & strSQLcriteria & ";"

'attach string strSQL to a querydef and run it
' Note: I usually use a hidden tmpQuery for this and set its SQL property to

' CurrentDb.QueryDefs("tmpQuery").SQL = strSQL
' CurrentDb.QueryDefs("tmpQuery").Execute
' Or shorter:
DoCmd.SetWarnings False 'suppress warnings about action queries
DoCmd.RunSQL strSQL
DoCmd.SetWarnings True 'switch warning on again

Notes:
- the barckets [] are included to allow names with spaces and other special
characters
- the apostrophe between quotes "'" followed by the tablename and closed
again with "' should return the tablename between quotes.
- As noted by another listmember, you probably have to do some checking on
data quality. Personally I would push that to the delivering agents, e.g. by
spending some time developing consistency checking in the Excel templates
they use for delivery.


Regards

Harry Coenen


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>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
>John W. Colby
>Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:12 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: AccessD Digest, Vol 14, Issue 31
>
>
>Susan,
>
>The way that I deal with this is that I COPY the file to a common name,
>perhaps CountyData.XLS.  Then I link that file to the FE.  
>Build my queries
>to suck the data out.  Run them.  Then there is just a copy of 
>whatever the
>next file name is to CountyData.XLS and run the queries over 
>again.  You
>need a means of interpreting some part of the original file 
>name so that you
>can set the "county field".  Do that 71 times and you are 
>done.  One table
>name, one set of queries, one function for pulling the county 
>name into an
>aliased query field, one routine that copies the file to a 
>common name /
>location.
>
>Is this a manual process?  Is there a naming convention in the 
>excel files?
>
>If not just throw all of the excel files in a directory, copy 
>each one out
>to an archive directory, adding the yyyymmdd string to the 
>name, either at
>the beginning or the end (helps sort the files in date order). 
> Also do the
>copy to a common location / name.  Now write an iterator that 
>finds every
>file in the directory and copies it to archive / common name - 
>location,
>deleting the file in the original directory.  When no files 
>remain, you are
>done.  In order to do this you must have some identifying 
>string in the file
>name however, perhaps the county name as the first N characters.  That
>allows the code to build the "missing" field that is the county in the
>destination table.
>
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Klos, Susan
>Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 3:40 PM
>To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
>Subject: [AccessD] RE: AccessD Digest, Vol 14, Issue 31
>
>
>Robert, I need 71 identical tables because I am getting the 
>same structure
>Excel file from 71 districts.  The structure is the same but 
>the data is
>different.  I want to be able to loop through the tables and 
>append their
>records to one table.
>
>Susan Klos
>Senior Database Analyst
>Evaluation and Reporting
>Florida Department of Education
>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 20 03:52:09 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 10:52:09 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8632C53D@infoserver01.infostat.local>
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8632C53D@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <517039742.20040420105209@cactus.dk>

Hi Susan

Perhaps you On_Open of the report could set the value of a textbox to
the value of your chosen FirstDayOfWeek retrieved from your form; then
use the value of this textbox as a parameter in the function you use
for grouping/sorting in your report.

/gustav


> Sorry, Susan, but I just tuned in. <g>  

> I'm not clear on what you're doing so I'm not being much help.  I do
> dynamic reports for a week period and pass the start date to my report
> then let the report determine what day that is and populate an
> appropriate series of label captions to match.  I base it on a crosstab
> query, rebuilt for each report run, that uses dates as column headings
> and uses parameters to filter the dates.  I set the SQL for that
> crosstab query each time I use a form to call the report (no hand
> tweaking), and I generate an IN list of dates in the specified range to
> create the column headings.  I then use code in the Report_Open event to
> determine which field to bind to which control in the detail of the
> report.  Is that kind of what you're attempting to do?   

> Charlotte Foust

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 11:52 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


 
> You can only group and sort on a field or an expression involving a
> field, and no, you can't use variables.  Had you mentioned the variable
> before? Why not just create a "week" field in the query and group and
> sort on that calculated field.  Then you could use your variable to
> create a filter for the particular week in question.

> ============I'm passing the firstdayoftheweek value from a form to the
> report -- the report's based on a query. So that's the quandry. That's
> what I mentioned in my last message -- the only way I can see around it
> is to pass the value to the query and run the expressions in the query
> first. I'm not sure I know how to do that really -- I have never passed
> anything to a query before -- just called functions from a query. And in
> this case, that's what I'm trying to avoid -- calling the function from
> the query. 

> Susan H. 



From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Apr 20 05:19:05 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 10:19:05 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] cbo after adding data question
Message-ID: <20040420091903.C4D9D2537F4@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Hi Joe

If you have one or two places on the form which can add/alter records and
therefore require the cbo to be requeried then just add:

me!cboWhatever.Requery

at the end of those routines.

Alternatively, and as long as it doesn't cause too much of an overhead, you
can place:

me.ActiveControl.Requery

in the OnGotFocus of the combo itself. You may do more requeries than are
strictly necessary this way, but it pretty much ensures that the combo sees
everything it should.

--
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http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



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To: AccessD <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] cbo after adding data question
Date: 20/04/04 06:53

>
> I have a combo box that pulls up matching records on a form. The data
source
> is a SQL statement not a query.
>
>
>
> After the record is entered where and how should I write the requry
> statement to add the record to the combo box?
>
>
>
> JOE HECHT
>
> LOS ANGELES CA
>
>
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Tue Apr 20 06:41:58 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 07:41:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Report Page Header
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB79@nnse14.nns.com>

The condition where detail records may not exist on the last page of a
report occurs because I have included a sub report in the report footer
which may or may not fit in the available space left over after the details
have completed printing.


Mark
...yikes, seems like a run-on sentence, but also appears to be grammatically
correct? :)


-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 5:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Report Page Header


Mark:

Do you mean no data for the whole report?  If so you can use the No Data
event and issue a DoCmd.CancelEvent command.  That will cancel the whole
report.  Mostly I then have to trap the error 2105 in the calling form.

But what condition would give you  on some detail records on some pages and
not others?

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:10 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Report Page Header


> First, a really stupid question...why is it that Access reports do not
have
> a "Detail Header" section?  It seems simple and to the point for a lot of
> what I do when grouping is not needed.
>
>
> Second, when printing a report, what is the syntax to check if there are
no
> detail records on the page and suppress the Page Header if there are none?
>
>
>
> Mark
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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Tue Apr 20 06:48:01 2004
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 13:48:01 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access
Message-ID: <4879913.1082461681903.JavaMail.www@wwinf3004>

To all,
 
I?m sure one of you out there must have done/attempted this before, I have an export button on my switchboard which exports two text files (ShiftData and DowntimeData) using the TransferText method.  I also have a copy of WinZip 8.0 (or close) installed.
 
What I would like to do is once the text files have been exported I would like to zip them, has anyone any examples etc that I may look at to achieve this.  
 
Also would I also need to download the command line interface for WinZip as well ?
 
Thanks in advance for any help on this.
 
Paul Hartland
Database Designer/Developer.
Join the UK's number one for the internet 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 20 06:56:31 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 07:56:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <517039742.20040420105209@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20040420115630.XNDF1778.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Already tried it -- didn't work. Access will not group on a calculated
control. 

Susan H. 

Hi Susan

Perhaps you On_Open of the report could set the value of a textbox to the
value of your chosen FirstDayOfWeek retrieved from your form; then use the
value of this textbox as a parameter in the function you use for
grouping/sorting in your report.




From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Tue Apr 20 07:00:38 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 08:00:38 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA3082E3B6@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB44B@ADGSERVER>

Hi Paul,

First of all, you need to get version 9.0 of WinZip.  It is a free upgrade.
There was a security issue with all versions below 9.0.

I have not programmatically done what you are talking about, but I have used
the command line version of WinZip to zip various stuff up.

I use batch files to run them.  Here are two examples:

"C:\Program Files\WinZip\wzzip" -a -spasswordhere psts.zip *.pst

"C:\Program Files\WinZip\wzzip" -a willis.zip willis.pst

The first example shows how to Add all *.PST files to an archive (or create
it new if it does not exist) while password protecting the zip file.
The second example is just adding willis.pst to willis.zip.

If I was you, I would create a batch file with the zip commands and whatever
else you need.  Then I would use the shell command from Access to call the
batch file.  I do not have any examples handy of the shell command, but if
you Google it, I'm sure that you'll find something.

If you have downloaded the command-line version of WinZip, there should be
two files that explain the zip and unzip functions.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 7:48 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access


To all,
 
I'm sure one of you out there must have done/attempted this before, I have
an export button on my switchboard which exports two text files (ShiftData
and DowntimeData) using the TransferText method.  I also have a copy of
WinZip 8.0 (or close) installed.
 
What I would like to do is once the text files have been exported I would
like to zip them, has anyone any examples etc that I may look at to achieve
this.  
 
Also would I also need to download the command line interface for WinZip as
well ?
 
Thanks in advance for any help on this.
 
Paul Hartland
Database Designer/Developer.
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 20 07:03:17 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 14:03:17 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040420115630.XNDF1778.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <20040420115630.XNDF1778.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <7618507963.20040420140317@cactus.dk>

Hi Susan

It will not be calculated but unbound ... you set the value from code.

/gustav


> Already tried it -- didn't work. Access will not group on a calculated
> control. 

> Susan H. 

> Hi Susan

> Perhaps you On_Open of the report could set the value of a textbox to the
> value of your chosen FirstDayOfWeek retrieved from your form; then use the
> value of this textbox as a parameter in the function you use for
> grouping/sorting in your report.



From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Tue Apr 20 07:04:39 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 08:04:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Report Page Header
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB7A@nnse14.nns.com>

I realize I can add a group header, but can I do so without actually sorting
or grouping?  For this report I have the field headers in the page header.
I want to be able to suppress that page header when there are no detail
records to be printed for that page.  This is not the same as on no data.

For instance, let's assume a full page of details contains 80 records.  The
first page, because of the report header can only accommodate 60 records.
The last page, because of the size of the report footer, can also
accommodate 60 records.  If my report only contains 60 records, the report
length will still be 2 pages but no details will be on the second page.
Currently, because I am utilizing the page header to hold the field headers,
the page header will print on the second page.  In the above case, how do I
suppress the page header if no detail records are on the page?



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert L. Stewart [mailto:rl_stewart at highstream.net] 
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 5:01 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Report Page Header


In a band report writer, which Access is, the detail header is in the 
grouping header just above it.  You have to make it visible.

There is a event in the report for No data.  You would put code in that 
event to handle what ever you wanted to do there.

Robert

At 03:42 PM 4/19/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 16:10:22 -0400
>From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
>Subject: [AccessD] Report Page Header
>To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at DatabaseAdvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB78 at nnse14.nns.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain
>
>First, a really stupid question...why is it that Access reports do not have
>a "Detail Header" section?  It seems simple and to the point for a lot of
>what I do when grouping is not needed.
>
>
>Second, when printing a report, what is the syntax to check if there are no
>detail records on the page and suppress the Page Header if there are none?
>
>


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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 20 07:09:02 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 22:09:02 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access
In-Reply-To: <4879913.1082461681903.JavaMail.www@wwinf3004>
Message-ID: <40859F7E.14268.2CA3E11@localhost>

On 20 Apr 2004 at 13:48, paul.hartland at fsmail.net wrote:

> To all, I?m sure one of you out there must have done/attempted this
> before, I have an export button on my switchboard which exports two
> text files (ShiftData and DowntimeData) using the TransferText method.
>  I also have a copy of WinZip 8.0 (or close) installed. What I would
> like to do is once the text files have been exported I would like to
> zip them, has anyone any examples etc that I may look at to achieve
> this.  Also would I also need to download the command line interface
> for WinZip as well ? 

Simplest way is to upgrade to  the latest Winzip (ver 9.0) and also 
grab the "WinZip Command Line Support Add-On".  (You current Winzip 
rego will still be valid with Ver 9.0)

Then all you need to do is something like:

RetVal = Shell("'C:\Program Files\Winzip\Wzzip.exe'  MyFiles.zip 
File1.txt File2.txt",0)







 
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Support.





From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 20 07:18:03 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 08:18:03 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <7618507963.20040420140317@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20040420121802.XUVJ1778.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Gustav, I think I must be missing something in this discussion. I hate to
bring us to this level, but how would I do that? I can not get the
sorting/grouping dialog to accept an unbound control. I guess I'm being
truly dull... 

Originally, I used code to set the value, but I still couldn't group by the
results. 

Susan H. 

Hi Susan

It will not be calculated but unbound ... you set the value from code.

/gustav





From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 20 07:35:09 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 22:35:09 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040420115630.XNDF1778.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <517039742.20040420105209@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <4085A59D.24333.2E22823@localhost>

On 20 Apr 2004 at 7:56, Susan Harkins wrote:

> Already tried it -- didn't work. Access will not group on a calculated
> control. 
> 

Yes it will.

Try this.
1. Create a static function in a module:

Static Function FirstDayOfWeek(Optional DOW As Long = -1) As Long
Dim lngDOWStore As Long
If DOW > -1 Then
  lngDOWStore = DOW
End If
FirstDayOfWeek = lngDOWStore
End Function

2. In the Sorting Grouping Window of your report,set the first 
"Field/Expression" to "=DatePart("ww",[MyDate],FirstDayOfWeek())" and 
set Group Header  = "Yes".
Set the second  Field/Expression to "MyDate"

3. In the Group header, put a text box with a control source of
=" Week No: " & DatePart("ww",[MyDate],FirstDayOfWeek())

4. In the detail section put a textbox with a control source of 
[MyDate]

5. Put a  button and a Combobox (cboWeekday) on the form you call the 
report from.

Set the combo:
Column Count = 2
Column Widths = 0,1 (assuming you are using inches)
Row Source Type = Value List
Row Source = 
1;Sunday;2;Monday;3;Tuesday;4;Wednesday;5;Thursday;6;Friday;7;Saturday

5. In your button on_click event in the form put:

Dim lngRetVal as long
lngRetVal =  FirstDayOfWeek(cboWeekday) 
Docmd.OpenReport "MyReport",acPreview







 
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From pharryecoenen at btinternet.com  Tue Apr 20 08:42:12 2004
From: pharryecoenen at btinternet.com (Harry Coenen)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 14:42:12 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Handling strings in VBA SQL scripts?
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAL9Kwp6bii0K2NXFiQtqufcKAAAAQAAAADUNdbmLFOUKmy64+rXjjiQEAAAAA@btinternet.com>

Hi All

I am searching for a function that determines the need for barcketing and
need for apostrophing/stringing of variable names. For example a tablename
stored in variable strTableName with value "table1" would not need
bracketing, while value "table 1" definitly needs bracketing, e.g. as part
of an SQL string "FROM [" & strTableName & "]".  

To make it a bit more difficult the value could also be "John's Table". This
would cause problems when we need to string the variable in an SQL string,
e.g. "SELECT '" & strTableName & "' AS TableName, " would result in "SELECT
'Peter's table' AS FromTable," which obviously is not correct, it should be
"SELECT 'Peter''s table' AS FromTable,".  It would also cause problems when
we decide to code using something like rst(strTableName).

Up until now I either avoided the problem by forcing users to use
unproblematic names, or developed one of solutions dependent on the data
(hoping that they would not change their naming conventions.

Thanks to Skrol29 (http://www.skrol29.com/) and Juan M. Af?n deRibera
(http://www.mvp-access.com/juanmafan/) I am aware of WizHook.IsValidIdent
and WizHook.BracketString for testing valid variable names.  But Wizhook is
an undocumented feature.  I am also aware of tools which "string" a string
for you, e.g. CodeCrafter or the MS VBA String Editor that can do this with
a static string during design time.
But I was wondering if someone has found the time to find a more generic
solution.

The following gives my proto-analysis:

Function OutputString (strInputString as String,
                      Optional intFlag as Integer = 0,
                      Optional strStringChar As String = '"') AS string
' ============================
' Arguments:
' strInputString : the string to be converted
' intFlag        : the type of conversion
'                   0 = standard string conversion converting apostrophes
'                   1 = just bracketing for filename
'                   and others that could be useful
' strStringChar  : the character to be used as start and close of the string

'                  standard "
'============================
' PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS
' If intFlag = 1 Then
'   check if bracketing is needed
'   check for a the appearance of a list of characters in the string (which
characters?)
'   if one appears, at least bracket
' Else
'   if apostrophe appears double it
' Endif
End Function

Further note: Probably the function should return a Boolean indicating
success or failure of the action while the result is transfered to the
caller by other means. How?

Many thanks in advance

Harry Coenen



From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Tue Apr 20 08:48:39 2004
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 15:48:39 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access Again.
Message-ID: <8320091.1082468919101.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>

To all,
 
Thanks for all your help with my last WinZip question, however now I need to know where I am going wrong.  I have the following code in my application:
 
    Dim strShiftData As String
    Dim strDownTime As String
    Dim wzFinal As String
    Dim wzFiles
    
    strShiftData = "C:\Shifts_" & Replace(DATE, "/", "") & "_" & Replace(Time(), ":", "") & ".txt"
    strDownTime = "C:\Down_" & Replace(DATE, "/", "") & "_" & Replace(Time(), ":", "") & ".txt"
    
    DoCmd.TransferText acExportDelim, , "qryNewExportShiftDataToText", strShiftData, True
    DoCmd.TransferText acExportDelim, , "qryNewExportDownTimeToText", strDownTime, True
    
    wzFinal = "C:\Branston" & Replace(DATE, "/", "") & Replace(Time(), ":", "")
    
    wzFiles = Shell("C:\Program Files\Winzip\Wzzip.exe  " & wzFinal & " " & strShiftData & " " & strDownTime, 0)
 
    MsgBox ?Finshed Export?,,?**** User Message ? Export Complete ****?
 
However I can?t seem to see any zip file on my C: drive, and I get no error message.  Can someone please see where I am going wrong here.  I have WinZip 9.0 and the Command Line Interface installed.
 
Thanks in advance for all your help.
 
Paul Hartland
Database Designer/Developer.
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From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Tue Apr 20 09:06:45 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Developer)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 10:06:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Handling strings in VBA SQL scripts?
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAL9Kwp6bii0K2NXFiQtqufcKAAAAQAAAADUNdbmLFOUKmy64+rXjjiQEAAAAA@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <000901c426e0$ba0dc190$6401a8c0@COA3>

There's no-harm/no-foul to have extra brackets as a saftey measure.
Combined with the Replace function (A2k+) ... I would just do:

"SELECT '" & replace(strTableName, "'","''") & "' as tablename " & _ 
"FROM [" & strTableName & "]"

hth
Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Harry Coenen
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 9:42 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Handling strings in VBA SQL scripts?


Hi All

I am searching for a function that determines the need for barcketing
and need for apostrophing/stringing of variable names. For example a
tablename stored in variable strTableName with value "table1" would not
need bracketing, while value "table 1" definitly needs bracketing, e.g.
as part of an SQL string "FROM [" & strTableName & "]".  

To make it a bit more difficult the value could also be "John's Table".
This would cause problems when we need to string the variable in an SQL
string, e.g. "SELECT '" & strTableName & "' AS TableName, " would result
in "SELECT 'Peter's table' AS FromTable," which obviously is not
correct, it should be "SELECT 'Peter''s table' AS FromTable,".  It would
also cause problems when we decide to code using something like
rst(strTableName).

Up until now I either avoided the problem by forcing users to use
unproblematic names, or developed one of solutions dependent on the data
(hoping that they would not change their naming conventions.

Thanks to Skrol29 (http://www.skrol29.com/) and Juan M. Af?n deRibera
(http://www.mvp-access.com/juanmafan/) I am aware of
WizHook.IsValidIdent and WizHook.BracketString for testing valid
variable names.  But Wizhook is an undocumented feature.  I am also
aware of tools which "string" a string for you, e.g. CodeCrafter or the
MS VBA String Editor that can do this with a static string during design
time. But I was wondering if someone has found the time to find a more
generic solution.

The following gives my proto-analysis:

Function OutputString (strInputString as String,
                      Optional intFlag as Integer = 0,
                      Optional strStringChar As String = '"') AS string
' ============================ ' Arguments: ' strInputString : the
string to be converted
' intFlag        : the type of conversion
'                   0 = standard string conversion converting
apostrophes
'                   1 = just bracketing for filename
'                   and others that could be useful
' strStringChar  : the character to be used as start and close of the
string

'                  standard "
'============================
' PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS
' If intFlag = 1 Then
'   check if bracketing is needed
'   check for a the appearance of a list of characters in the string
(which
characters?)
'   if one appears, at least bracket
' Else
'   if apostrophe appears double it
' Endif
End Function

Further note: Probably the function should return a Boolean indicating
success or failure of the action while the result is transfered to the
caller by other means. How?

Many thanks in advance

Harry Coenen

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 20 09:12:58 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 16:12:58 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Handling strings in VBA SQL scripts?
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAL9Kwp6bii0K2NXFiQtqufcKAAAAQAAAADUNdbmLFOUKmy64+rXjjiQEAAAAA@btinternet.com>
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Message-ID: <8226288030.20040420161258@cactus.dk>

Hi Harry

> I am searching for a function that determines the need for barcketing and
> need for apostrophing/stringing of variable names. For example a tablename
> stored in variable strTableName with value "table1" would not need
> bracketing, while value "table 1" definitly needs bracketing, e.g. as part
> of an SQL string "FROM [" & strTableName & "]".

Brackets don't harm, so just apply them if you feel they could be
needed.

> To make it a bit more difficult the value could also be "John's Table". This
> would cause problems when we need to string the variable in an SQL string,
> e.g. "SELECT '" & strTableName & "' AS TableName, " would result in "SELECT
> 'Peter's table' AS FromTable," which obviously is not correct, it should be
> "SELECT 'Peter''s table' AS FromTable,".  It would also cause problems when
> we decide to code using something like rst(strTableName).

J?rgen Welz have posted a proven clean-up function for this purpose:

A problem with the """" or chr$(34) and such solutions is that if you have a
string with apostrophes in it, like "John O'Conner" or "8' 4" Block Wall", 
the sql/find/dAgg will choke.  My users are accustomed to mixing both quotes 
and apostrophes in their input fields (although we are metric here, we still 
get a fair bit of feet and inches stuff and our new Seattle office is 
definitely going to be using imperial units of measure).  The 97 ADH has a 
general solution for fixing mixed quotes and apostrophes.... but it doesn't 
work.  I use:

<quote>

Function fnFixQuotes(Srch As String) As String
    Dim strout As String
    Dim Qt As String
    Dim IntI As Integer

    Qt = """"
    For IntI = 1 To Len(Srch)
        If InStr(Chr$(34), Mid$(Srch, IntI, 1)) Then
            strout = strout & Chr$(34) & "& Chr$(34) &" & Chr$(34)
        Else
            strout = strout & Mid$(Srch, IntI, 1)
        End If
    Next
    fnFixQuotes = Qt & strout & Qt
End Function

An example of how it's called with wildcards to find a string anywhere in a 
field:

Private Sub txtNameCrit_AfterUpdate()
    Dim strCrit As String
    If Not IsNull(Me.txtNameCrit) Then
        strCrit = Me.txtNameCrit
        strCrit = fnFixQuotes("*" & strCrit & "*")
    Else
        strCrit = ""
    End If
    Call GetCompanies(strCrit)
End Sub

Private Sub GetCompanies(strIn)
    Dim strSql As String
    With Me
       If len(strCrit) Then
        strSql = "SELECT CompanyID, CompanyName FROM tblCompany WHERE 
CompanyID > 0 AND " & _
                            "Deleted = False AND CompanyName Like " & strIn 
& " ORDER BY CompanyName WITH OWNERACCESS OPTION"
        .lstAvailable.RowSource = strSql
        .lstAvailable.SetFocus
       Else
          'sql without criteria
       End if
    End With
End Sub

If you use a function like this to generate your delimiters, it is 
completely unnecessary to use special delimiters in your sql/find/dAgg code. 
  I've never written a fix to the pipe character (which chokes any sql) but 
that can be mostly fixed by replacing it a token).  You can write a more 
generic procedure yet that will choose your date or string delimiters and 
apply them where necessary.  I always thought that if you declared a 
variable as a string, Access should implicitly add the delimiters.  It would 
have been easy enough for them to build in an internal delimiter function to 
look after this ubiquitous issue.

Ciao
J?rgen Welz
Edmonton, Alberta

</quote>

/gustav



From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 20 09:15:51 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 16:15:51 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Access utils and add-ins (was: Handling strings in VBA
	SQL scripts?)
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Message-ID: <12126461489.20040420161551@cactus.dk>

Hi Harry

Nice collection of utils, add-ins, and code at those links!

/gustav

> Thanks to Skrol29
> (http://www.skrol29.com/)
> and Juan M. Af?n deRibera
> (http://www.mvp-access.com/juanmafan/) ..



From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca  Tue Apr 20 09:17:01 2004
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 10:17:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Form Opening Time
Message-ID: <s084f8ab.054@cbc.ca>

Can anyone explain, or give a possible idea why Turning Jet's SHOWPLAN
on in the registry, will make a form open in 1/3 of the time it took
prior to turning it on?

It now takes about 7 seconds to open, but before it was 22-24 secords.

Any ideas? I had turned on SHOWPLAN to try and see if any of the
queries were causing the slowdown in opening.

Thanks,

Bryan Carbonnell
bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca


From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 20 09:27:25 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 16:27:25 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access Again.
In-Reply-To: <8320091.1082468919101.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>
References: <8320091.1082468919101.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>
Message-ID: <19827155687.20040420162725@cactus.dk>

Hi paul

First, use Format() for creating strings from dates!

Second, you probably need quotes around your file names as some of
them contains spaces.

Use Debug.Print:

  strQuote = Chr(34)
  strCommand =
    strQuote & "C:\Program Files\Winzip\Wzzip.exe" & strQuote & " " &
    strQuote & wzFinal & strQuote & " " &
    strQuote & strShiftData & strQuote & " " &
    strQuote & strDownTime & strQuote
  Debug.Print strCommand
  wzFiles = Shell(strCommand, 0)

Remove line breaks above!

/gustav


> Thanks for all your help with my last WinZip question, however now I need to know where I am going wrong.  I have the following code in my application:
 
>     Dim strShiftData As String
>     Dim strDownTime As String
>     Dim wzFinal As String
>     Dim wzFiles
    
>     strShiftData = "C:\Shifts_" & Replace(DATE, "/", "") & "_" & Replace(Time(), ":", "") & ".txt"
>     strDownTime = "C:\Down_" & Replace(DATE, "/", "") & "_" & Replace(Time(), ":", "") & ".txt"
    
>     DoCmd.TransferText acExportDelim, , "qryNewExportShiftDataToText", strShiftData, True
>     DoCmd.TransferText acExportDelim, , "qryNewExportDownTimeToText", strDownTime, True
    
>     wzFinal = "C:\Branston" & Replace(DATE, "/", "") & Replace(Time(), ":", "")
    
>     wzFiles = Shell("C:\Program Files\Winzip\Wzzip.exe  " & wzFinal & " " & strShiftData & " " & strDownTime, 0)
 
>     MsgBox ?Finshed Export?,,?**** User Message ? Export Complete ****?
 
> However I can?t seem to see any zip file on my C: drive, and I get no error message.  Can someone please see where I am going wrong here.  I have WinZip 9.0 and the Command Line Interface installed.



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 20 09:36:20 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 10:36:20 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <4085A59D.24333.2E22823@localhost>
Message-ID: <20040420143620.WZYO1779.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Try this.
1. Create a static function in a module:

Static Function FirstDayOfWeek(Optional DOW As Long = -1) As Long Dim
lngDOWStore As Long If DOW > -1 Then
  lngDOWStore = DOW
End If
FirstDayOfWeek = lngDOWStore
End Function

============I already have a function and it works. You're just moving the
function call from the query to the report, but if there's a good
development reason for doing so I'm open to it. 

Susan H. 



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Apr 20 09:42:28 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 07:42:28 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
References: <20040420115630.XNDF1778.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <00bc01c426e5$b46b8c90$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Susan:

When I run into this problem I have to add the calculation to the query
that's the recordsource for the report.  Then I can group and sort on it.

Rocky

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Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


> Already tried it -- didn't work. Access will not group on a calculated
> control.
>
> Susan H.
>
> Hi Susan
>
> Perhaps you On_Open of the report could set the value of a textbox to the
> value of your chosen FirstDayOfWeek retrieved from your form; then use the
> value of this textbox as a parameter in the function you use for
> grouping/sorting in your report.
>
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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Tue Apr 20 09:50:25 2004
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 16:50:25 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access Again.
Message-ID: <22375148.1082472625109.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>

Thanks for the fast response Gustav, still getting same problem though.  Text files exporting but no WinZip file to be seen, and no error message...






Message date : Apr 20 2004, 03:37 PM
>From : "Gustav Brock" 
To : "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
Copy to : 
Subject : Re: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access Again.
Hi paul

First, use Format() for creating strings from dates!

Second, you probably need quotes around your file names as some of
them contains spaces.

Use Debug.Print:

strQuote = Chr(34)
strCommand =
strQuote & "C:\Program Files\Winzip\Wzzip.exe" & strQuote & " " &
strQuote & wzFinal & strQuote & " " &
strQuote & strShiftData & strQuote & " " &
strQuote & strDownTime & strQuote
Debug.Print strCommand
wzFiles = Shell(strCommand, 0)

Remove line breaks above!

/gustav


> Thanks for all your help with my last WinZip question, however now I need to know where I am going wrong. I have the following code in my application:

> Dim strShiftData As String
> Dim strDownTime As String
> Dim wzFinal As String
> Dim wzFiles

> strShiftData = "C:\Shifts_" & Replace(DATE, "/", "") & "_" & Replace(Time(), ":", "") & ".txt"
> strDownTime = "C:\Down_" & Replace(DATE, "/", "") & "_" & Replace(Time(), ":", "") & ".txt"

> DoCmd.TransferText acExportDelim, , "qryNewExportShiftDataToText", strShiftData, True
> DoCmd.TransferText acExportDelim, , "qryNewExportDownTimeToText", strDownTime, True

> wzFinal = "C:\Branston" & Replace(DATE, "/", "") & Replace(Time(), ":", "")

> wzFiles = Shell("C:\Program Files\Winzip\Wzzip.exe " & wzFinal & " " & strShiftData & " " & strDownTime, 0)

> MsgBox ?Finshed Export?,,?**** User Message ? Export Complete ****?

> However I can?t seem to see any zip file on my C: drive, and I get no error message. Can someone please see where I am going wrong here. I have WinZip 9.0 and the Command Line Interface installed.

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 20 09:53:14 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 16:53:14 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <00bc01c426e5$b46b8c90$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
References: <20040420115630.XNDF1778.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
	<00bc01c426e5$b46b8c90$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <14628704544.20040420165314@cactus.dk>

Hi Rocky

> When I run into this problem I have to add the calculation to the query
> that's the recordsource for the report.  Then I can group and sort on it.

Hmmm ... you should sort in the report, not in the query (except for
the sorting caused by grouping, of course).

/gustav



From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Tue Apr 20 10:03:40 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 11:03:40 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access Again.
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA3082E443@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB450@ADGSERVER>

Using Gustav's code, make sure that you get something out like this in your
string:

'C:\Program Files\Winzip\Wzzip.exe' 'C:\Branston0419041100.zip' 'Shiftsxxx'

It also looks like your code id not putting a ".zip" on the end of wzfinal.

Bobby

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paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 10:50 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: Re: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access Again.


Thanks for the fast response Gustav, still getting same problem though.
Text files exporting but no WinZip file to be seen, and no error message...






Message date : Apr 20 2004, 03:37 PM
>From : "Gustav Brock"
To : "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
Copy to : 
Subject : Re: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access Again.
Hi paul

First, use Format() for creating strings from dates!

Second, you probably need quotes around your file names as some of them
contains spaces.

Use Debug.Print:

strQuote = Chr(34)
strCommand =
strQuote & "C:\Program Files\Winzip\Wzzip.exe" & strQuote & " " & strQuote &
wzFinal & strQuote & " " & strQuote & strShiftData & strQuote & " " &
strQuote & strDownTime & strQuote Debug.Print strCommand wzFiles =
Shell(strCommand, 0)

Remove line breaks above!

/gustav


> Thanks for all your help with my last WinZip question, however now I 
> need to know where I am going wrong. I have the following code in my 
> application:

> Dim strShiftData As String
> Dim strDownTime As String
> Dim wzFinal As String
> Dim wzFiles

> strShiftData = "C:\Shifts_" & Replace(DATE, "/", "") & "_" & 
> Replace(Time(), ":", "") & ".txt" strDownTime = "C:\Down_" & 
> Replace(DATE, "/", "") & "_" & Replace(Time(), ":", "") & ".txt"

> DoCmd.TransferText acExportDelim, , "qryNewExportShiftDataToText", 
> strShiftData, True DoCmd.TransferText acExportDelim, , 
> "qryNewExportDownTimeToText", strDownTime, True

> wzFinal = "C:\Branston" & Replace(DATE, "/", "") & Replace(Time(), 
> ":", "")

> wzFiles = Shell("C:\Program Files\Winzip\Wzzip.exe " & wzFinal & " " & 
> strShiftData & " " & strDownTime, 0)

> MsgBox "Finshed Export",,"**** User Message - Export Complete ****"

> However I can't seem to see any zip file on my C: drive, and I get no 
> error message. Can someone please see where I am going wrong here. I 
> have WinZip 9.0 and the Command Line Interface installed.

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Apr 20 10:19:21 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 08:19:21 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
References: <20040420115630.XNDF1778.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
	<00bc01c426e5$b46b8c90$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
	<14628704544.20040420165314@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <012201c426ea$db54b160$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Right.  Except when I need to sort or group on an unbound control.  That's
when I have to add it to the query and bind the control to that field in the
query.

Rocky

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From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
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Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 7:53 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


> Hi Rocky
>
> > When I run into this problem I have to add the calculation to the query
> > that's the recordsource for the report.  Then I can group and sort on
it.
>
> Hmmm ... you should sort in the report, not in the query (except for
> the sorting caused by grouping, of course).
>
> /gustav
>
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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Tue Apr 20 10:39:37 2004
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 17:39:37 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access
Message-ID: <1861111.1082475577664.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>

To all,
 
Thanks for everybody?s help on this I now know what the problem is.  We are using an Evaluation copy of Winzip, if I set the focus of the Shell command below to vbMaximizedFocus:
 
strCommand = "C:\Program Files\Winzip\Wzzip.exe " & wzFinal & " " & strShiftData & " " & strDownTime & vbCrLf
            wzFiles = Shell(strCommand, vbMaximizedFocus)
 
A message appears in the window with press any key to continue, and if I press any key it works perfect.  Is there anyway I can include the keypress into the Shell Command.  If I can get this to work automatically then I should be able to convince the powers that be to invest in the fully registered version.  
 
Thanks again for everyone?s help on this
 
Paul Hartland
Database Designer/Developer
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Tue Apr 20 10:52:27 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 11:52:27 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Report Page Header
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB7E@nnse14.nns.com>

Is there no way to test for detail records printed on a report page, and,
then based on that, hide the page header?



Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark 
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 8:05 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: Report Page Header


I realize I can add a group header, but can I do so without actually sorting
or grouping?  For this report I have the field headers in the page header.
I want to be able to suppress that page header when there are no detail
records to be printed for that page.  This is not the same as on no data.

For instance, let's assume a full page of details contains 80 records.  The
first page, because of the report header can only accommodate 60 records.
The last page, because of the size of the report footer, can also
accommodate 60 records.  If my report only contains 60 records, the report
length will still be 2 pages but no details will be on the second page.
Currently, because I am utilizing the page header to hold the field headers,
the page header will print on the second page.  In the above case, how do I
suppress the page header if no detail records are on the page?



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert L. Stewart [mailto:rl_stewart at highstream.net] 
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 5:01 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Report Page Header


In a band report writer, which Access is, the detail header is in the 
grouping header just above it.  You have to make it visible.

There is a event in the report for No data.  You would put code in that 
event to handle what ever you wanted to do there.

Robert

At 03:42 PM 4/19/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 16:10:22 -0400
>From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
>Subject: [AccessD] Report Page Header
>To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at DatabaseAdvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB78 at nnse14.nns.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain
>
>First, a really stupid question...why is it that Access reports do not have
>a "Detail Header" section?  It seems simple and to the point for a lot of
>what I do when grouping is not needed.
>
>
>Second, when printing a report, what is the syntax to check if there are no
>detail records on the page and suppress the Page Header if there are none?
>
>


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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 20 10:53:47 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 17:53:47 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access
In-Reply-To: <1861111.1082475577664.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>
References: <1861111.1082475577664.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>
Message-ID: <1932337508.20040420175347@cactus.dk>

Hi paul

> Thanks for everybody?s help on this I now know what the problem is.  We are using an Evaluation copy of Winzip, if I set the focus of the Shell command below to vbMaximizedFocus:
 
> strCommand = "C:\Program Files\Winzip\Wzzip.exe " & wzFinal & " " & strShiftData & " " & strDownTime & vbCrLf
>             wzFiles = Shell(strCommand, vbMaximizedFocus)
 
> A message appears in the window with press any key to continue, and if I press any key it works perfect.  Is there anyway I can include the keypress into the Shell Command.  If I can get this to
> work automatically then I should be able to convince the powers that be to invest in the fully registered version.  
 
> Thanks again for everyone?s help on this

Fine!

If you don't need WinZip for anything else than this, do as we do, use
a freeware command line zip'er like ZIP.EXE (115 K size only):

---

C:\WINNT\TEMP>zip -L
Copyright (C) 1990-1997 Mark Adler, Richard B. Wales, Jean-loup Gailly,
Onno van der Linden and Kai Uwe Rommel.
Type 'zip -L' for the software License.

Permission is granted to any individual or institution to use, copy, or
redistribute this executable so long as it is not modified and that it is
not sold for profit.

LIKE ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S FREE, ZIP AND ITS ASSOCIATED UTILITIES ARE
PROVIDED AS IS AND COME WITH NO WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESSED OR
IMPLIED. IN NO EVENT WILL THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES
RESULTING FROM THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE.

---

Command line for ZIP.EXE is the same as you have already.

/gustav



From KIsmert at TexasSystems.com  Tue Apr 20 11:23:11 2004
From: KIsmert at TexasSystems.com (Ken Ismert)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 11:23:11 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Changing the table in a query so I
	canloopthrough	thequery
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040419155057.02af21f8@pop3.highstream.net>
Message-ID: <001a01c426f3$c6ac5e30$2a3ca8c0@TEXASSYSTEMS.COM>


Yes. They are the parts tables for our Bill of Materials system. They are
organized by type: tbl023 is Gaskets, tbl076 is Transformers, etc. The
tables are structurally identical, with room for 8 attributes. Needless to
say, one size does not fit all: tbl006, Elbows, requires 3 attributes, while
tbl003, Heaters, requires over 30! The solution to the latter problem is, of
course, more bad design: either create an auxiliary table to hold the extra
attributes, or dump them into a big note field.

Welcome to my inherited mess!

-Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert L. Stewart [mailto:rl_stewart at highstream.net]
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 3:53 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Changing the table in a query so I canloopthrough
thequery


Ken,

You have been in my SIG long enough to know that is a resounding YES, it is
a bad design.  But, do you actually populate all 140 tables with the same
data like she is doing?

Robert



From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 20 11:27:30 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 18:27:30 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Report Page Header
In-Reply-To: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB7E@nnse14.nns.com>
References: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB7E@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <15834360357.20040420182730@cactus.dk>

Hi Mark

> Is there no way to test for detail records printed on a report page, and,
> then based on that, hide the page header?

This is not a page header but a group header.

Create a dummy group with your labels:
Set Field/Expression to  =True
Set Group Header to Yes.

In the report, adjust the group's layout properties:

Set Keep Together to False
Set Repeat Section to True

/gustav


> I realize I can add a group header, but can I do so without actually sorting
> or grouping?  For this report I have the field headers in the page header.
> I want to be able to suppress that page header when there are no detail
> records to be printed for that page.  This is not the same as on no data.

> For instance, let's assume a full page of details contains 80 records.  The
> first page, because of the report header can only accommodate 60 records.
> The last page, because of the size of the report footer, can also
> accommodate 60 records.  If my report only contains 60 records, the report
> length will still be 2 pages but no details will be on the second page.
> Currently, because I am utilizing the page header to hold the field headers,
> the page header will print on the second page.  In the above case, how do I
> suppress the page header if no detail records are on the page?



From pjones at btl.net  Tue Apr 20 11:25:14 2004
From: pjones at btl.net (Paul M. Jones)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 10:25:14 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] cbo after adding data question
In-Reply-To: <000501c42695$b3109ed0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
References: <000501c42695$b3109ed0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20040420102249.02b72490@btlmail.btl.net>

for situations like this I usually place the SQL statement in code rather 
than the control properties at design time.

I then populate the row source on 'enter' of the combo box.  Of course 
there are some overhead associated with this but I always get fresh 
data.  I can also populate the combo box based on values in other fields 
using this approach.

Paul M. Jones

At 11:09 PM 04/19/2004, you wrote:
>I have a combo box that pulls up matching records on a form. The data source
>is a SQL statement not a query.
>
>
>
>After the record is entered where and how should I write the requry
>statement to add the record to the combo box?
>
>
>
>JOE HECHT
>
>LOS ANGELES CA
>
>
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Apr 20 11:36:20 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 11:36:20 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227AEE@main2.marlow.com>

Winzip is only like $25.  I had the same issue, and decided that spending
the few bucks to get a registered copy of Winzip was a better 'deal' then
wasting time trying to code around the unregistered limitation.

Turns out there is a LOT more available in the registered version of Winzip
too.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 10:40 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access


To all,
 
Thanks for everybody's help on this I now know what the problem is.  We are
using an Evaluation copy of Winzip, if I set the focus of the Shell command
below to vbMaximizedFocus:
 
strCommand = "C:\Program Files\Winzip\Wzzip.exe " & wzFinal & " " &
strShiftData & " " & strDownTime & vbCrLf
            wzFiles = Shell(strCommand, vbMaximizedFocus)
 
A message appears in the window with press any key to continue, and if I
press any key it works perfect.  Is there anyway I can include the keypress
into the Shell Command.  If I can get this to work automatically then I
should be able to convince the powers that be to invest in the fully
registered version.  
 
Thanks again for everyone's help on this
 
Paul Hartland
Database Designer/Developer
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Tue Apr 20 11:41:45 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 12:41:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Report Page Header
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB7F@nnse14.nns.com>

Interesting...works like a charm, but this approach doesn't seem intuitive
to me.  Is this common practice?


Thanks,

Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 12:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Re: Report Page Header


Hi Mark

> Is there no way to test for detail records printed on a report page, and,
> then based on that, hide the page header?

This is not a page header but a group header.

Create a dummy group with your labels:
Set Field/Expression to  =True
Set Group Header to Yes.

In the report, adjust the group's layout properties:

Set Keep Together to False
Set Repeat Section to True

/gustav


> I realize I can add a group header, but can I do so without actually
sorting
> or grouping?  For this report I have the field headers in the page header.
> I want to be able to suppress that page header when there are no detail
> records to be printed for that page.  This is not the same as on no data.

> For instance, let's assume a full page of details contains 80 records.
The
> first page, because of the report header can only accommodate 60 records.
> The last page, because of the size of the report footer, can also
> accommodate 60 records.  If my report only contains 60 records, the report
> length will still be 2 pages but no details will be on the second page.
> Currently, because I am utilizing the page header to hold the field
headers,
> the page header will print on the second page.  In the above case, how do
I
> suppress the page header if no detail records are on the page?

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 20 12:00:39 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 19:00:39 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Report Page Header
In-Reply-To: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB7F@nnse14.nns.com>
References: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB7F@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <17936349908.20040420190039@cactus.dk>

Hi Mark

> Interesting...works like a charm, but this approach doesn't seem intuitive
> to me.  Is this common practice?

I have never used it. But I've used grouping by the detail to be able
to show/hide some lines dependant on the current detail.

/gustav


>> Is there no way to test for detail records printed on a report page, and,
>> then based on that, hide the page header?

> This is not a page header but a group header.

> Create a dummy group with your labels:
> Set Field/Expression to  =True
> Set Group Header to Yes.

> In the report, adjust the group's layout properties:

> Set Keep Together to False
> Set Repeat Section to True

> /gustav


>> I realize I can add a group header, but can I do so without actually sorting
>> or grouping?  For this report I have the field headers in the page header.
>> I want to be able to suppress that page header when there are no detail
>> records to be printed for that page.  This is not the same as on no data.

>> For instance, let's assume a full page of details contains 80 records. The
>> first page, because of the report header can only accommodate 60 records.
>> The last page, because of the size of the report footer, can also
>> accommodate 60 records.  If my report only contains 60 records, the report
>> length will still be 2 pages but no details will be on the second page.
>> Currently, because I am utilizing the page header to hold the field headers,
>> the page header will print on the second page.  In the above case, how do> I
>> suppress the page header if no detail records are on the page?



From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Tue Apr 20 12:02:00 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 12:02:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Report Page Header
Message-ID: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE51D@TAPPEEXCH01>

Don't know if it's common practice, but I commonly use dummy headers in my
reports.  For example, I have a quote that consists of 6 different sections,
which can be selectively hidden by the user from a print dialog.  I name my
report sections with a string literal as the control source:

="Table of Contents"
="Pricing Plan"
="Terms of Payment"
...

Remember that a group control source can consist of a field name, function,
string, etc.  Anything that will evaluate at runtime.  My string literals
will never change throughout the course of printing the report, thus the
section only prints once.


-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 11:42 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: Report Page Header

Interesting...works like a charm, but this approach doesn't seem intuitive
to me.  Is this common practice?


Thanks,

Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 12:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Re: Report Page Header


Hi Mark

> Is there no way to test for detail records printed on a report page, and,
> then based on that, hide the page header?

This is not a page header but a group header.

Create a dummy group with your labels:
Set Field/Expression to  =True
Set Group Header to Yes.

In the report, adjust the group's layout properties:

Set Keep Together to False
Set Repeat Section to True

/gustav


> I realize I can add a group header, but can I do so without actually
sorting
> or grouping?  For this report I have the field headers in the page header.
> I want to be able to suppress that page header when there are no detail
> records to be printed for that page.  This is not the same as on no data.

> For instance, let's assume a full page of details contains 80 records.
The
> first page, because of the report header can only accommodate 60 records.
> The last page, because of the size of the report footer, can also
> accommodate 60 records.  If my report only contains 60 records, the report
> length will still be 2 pages but no details will be on the second page.
> Currently, because I am utilizing the page header to hold the field
headers,
> the page header will print on the second page.  In the above case, how do
I
> suppress the page header if no detail records are on the page?


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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Tue Apr 20 12:10:10 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 13:10:10 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA3082E48C@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB452@ADGSERVER>

I second that!  I use WinZip every day.  I figured that as much as I use it,
the $20 something registration was dirt cheap.  You also get free upgrades
(for life, I think).

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 12:36 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access


Winzip is only like $25.  I had the same issue, and decided that spending
the few bucks to get a registered copy of Winzip was a better 'deal' then
wasting time trying to code around the unregistered limitation.

Turns out there is a LOT more available in the registered version of Winzip
too.

Drew



From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Tue Apr 20 12:16:10 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 12:16:10 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access
Message-ID: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE51E@TAPPEEXCH01>

A little trickier, but if you want to embed zip functionality in your
program without requiring the user to purchase any additional software,
check this out:
http://www.vbaccelerator.com/home/VB/Code/Libraries/Compression/Zipping_File
s/article.asp

And regardless of what you choose to do, register WinZip ;-)


-----Original Message-----
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 11:36 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access

Winzip is only like $25.  I had the same issue, and decided that spending
the few bucks to get a registered copy of Winzip was a better 'deal' then
wasting time trying to code around the unregistered limitation.

Turns out there is a LOT more available in the registered version of Winzip
too.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 10:40 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access


To all,
 
Thanks for everybody's help on this I now know what the problem is.  We are
using an Evaluation copy of Winzip, if I set the focus of the Shell command
below to vbMaximizedFocus:
 
strCommand = "C:\Program Files\Winzip\Wzzip.exe " & wzFinal & " " &
strShiftData & " " & strDownTime & vbCrLf
            wzFiles = Shell(strCommand, vbMaximizedFocus)
 
A message appears in the window with press any key to continue, and if I
press any key it works perfect.  Is there anyway I can include the keypress
into the Shell Command.  If I can get this to work automatically then I
should be able to convince the powers that be to invest in the fully
registered version.  
 
Thanks again for everyone's help on this
 
Paul Hartland
Database Designer/Developer
Join the UK's number one for the internet 
www.freeserve.com/time
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Apr 20 12:21:00 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 12:21:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227AF1@main2.marlow.com>

Software licensins should be more like Winzip.  How useful is that tool?
And do they charge an arm and a leg for it? LOL.

Drew

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 12:10 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access


I second that!  I use WinZip every day.  I figured that as much as I use it,
the $20 something registration was dirt cheap.  You also get free upgrades
(for life, I think).

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 12:36 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access


Winzip is only like $25.  I had the same issue, and decided that spending
the few bucks to get a registered copy of Winzip was a better 'deal' then
wasting time trying to code around the unregistered limitation.

Turns out there is a LOT more available in the registered version of Winzip
too.

Drew

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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Tue Apr 20 12:23:46 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 13:23:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Report Page Header
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB80@nnse14.nns.com>

>>a group control source can consist of a field name, function,
string, etc.  Anything that will evaluate at runtime.<<


This was the part that I was not aware of...thanks.


Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Brett Barabash [mailto:BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 1:02 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: Report Page Header


Don't know if it's common practice, but I commonly use dummy headers in my
reports.  For example, I have a quote that consists of 6 different sections,
which can be selectively hidden by the user from a print dialog.  I name my
report sections with a string literal as the control source:

="Table of Contents"
="Pricing Plan"
="Terms of Payment"
...

Remember that a group control source can consist of a field name, function,
string, etc.  Anything that will evaluate at runtime.  My string literals
will never change throughout the course of printing the report, thus the
section only prints once.


-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 11:42 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: Report Page Header

Interesting...works like a charm, but this approach doesn't seem intuitive
to me.  Is this common practice?


Thanks,

Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 12:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Re: Report Page Header


Hi Mark

> Is there no way to test for detail records printed on a report page, and,
> then based on that, hide the page header?

This is not a page header but a group header.

Create a dummy group with your labels:
Set Field/Expression to  =True
Set Group Header to Yes.

In the report, adjust the group's layout properties:

Set Keep Together to False
Set Repeat Section to True

/gustav


> I realize I can add a group header, but can I do so without actually
sorting
> or grouping?  For this report I have the field headers in the page header.
> I want to be able to suppress that page header when there are no detail
> records to be printed for that page.  This is not the same as on no data.

> For instance, let's assume a full page of details contains 80 records.
The
> first page, because of the report header can only accommodate 60 records.
> The last page, because of the size of the report footer, can also
> accommodate 60 records.  If my report only contains 60 records, the report
> length will still be 2 pages but no details will be on the second page.
> Currently, because I am utilizing the page header to hold the field
headers,
> the page header will print on the second page.  In the above case, how do
I
> suppress the page header if no detail records are on the page?


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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 20 12:49:14 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 13:49:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <012201c426ea$db54b160$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <20040420174912.DNB1728.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

That's what I'd like to do -- and may do yet  by passing the firstdayofweek
value from the form to the query instead of the report. Truth is, I don't
know how -- I can't remember ever passing a value to a query before and a
parameter query is out.  

Susan H. 

Right.  Except when I need to sort or group on an unbound control.  That's
when I have to add it to the query and bind the control to that field in the
query.




From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 20 13:00:33 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 20:00:33 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040420121802.XUVJ1778.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <20040420121802.XUVJ1778.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <339943245.20040420200033@cactus.dk>

Hi Susan

I played a bit with this and it seems either not to work or using one
value only (= not registering a new weekday setting of the form).

Thus, I would either stick with the solution you have (feed the
weekday setting to the query) or go with the suggestion from Stuart
(which I didn't check out).

/gustav


> Gustav, I think I must be missing something in this discussion. I hate to
> bring us to this level, but how would I do that? I can not get the
> sorting/grouping dialog to accept an unbound control. I guess I'm being
> truly dull... 

> Originally, I used code to set the value, but I still couldn't group by the
> results. 

> Susan H. 

> Hi Susan

> It will not be calculated but unbound ... you set the value from code.

> /gustav



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 20 13:10:40 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 14:10:40 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040420174912.DNB1728.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <20040420181039.QNZ1728.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Let me rephrase that -- if I have to have a module, I don't think I really
care what gets passed where -- my hope was to eliminate the module and do
all the calculating in the query or the report and I thought I might be able
to bypass the module using the openargs argument. Replacing the module I
have for one that passes the value to a query really doesn't resolve the
issue I had. 

Susan H. 

That's what I'd like to do -- and may do yet  by passing the firstdayofweek
value from the form to the query instead of the report. Truth is, I don't
know how -- I can't remember ever passing a value to a query before and a
parameter query is out.  




From orthorabod at yahoo.com  Tue Apr 20 13:29:15 2004
From: orthorabod at yahoo.com (Dick Abo)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 11:29:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Accidentally Modified SYSTEM.MDA without Backup
Message-ID: <20040420182915.72088.qmail@web20724.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi All,
While examining a file (chapter 14) from the CD in the Access97 ADH, I opened the change password form and although I did not enter or change passwords, I am no longer able to use any of my Access 2K files. (The old and new Passwords were blank in the dialog box.)  I now get prompted with the Logon Dialog box that asks for the Administrator password, for every Access application that I attempt to use.

Short of re-installing the SYSTEM.MDW from the installation CD, is there another quick way to rectify this problem?  (I did not make a backup of the SYSTEM.MDW file but plan to do so from now on and my installation CD is currently unavailable.)  

I was previously not using the Security Workgroups feature of Access, but now it appears that I may have to?.

 Many thanks in advance.



		
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Apr 20 13:36:26 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 14:36:26 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access
In-Reply-To: <1861111.1082475577664.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPOEMPHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

I have a zip demo in my framework lecture series which uses a freeware zip
class.  These use two DLLs to handle the zip / unzip, two classes and two
modules for the zipping / unzipping.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 11:40 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access


To all,

Thanks for everybody?s help on this I now know what the problem is.  We are
using an Evaluation copy of Winzip, if I set the focus of the Shell command
below to vbMaximizedFocus:

strCommand = "C:\Program Files\Winzip\Wzzip.exe " & wzFinal & " " &
strShiftData & " " & strDownTime & vbCrLf
            wzFiles = Shell(strCommand, vbMaximizedFocus)

A message appears in the window with press any key to continue, and if I
press any key it works perfect.  Is there anyway I can include the keypress
into the Shell Command.  If I can get this to work automatically then I
should be able to convince the powers that be to invest in the fully
registered version.

Thanks again for everyone?s help on this

Paul Hartland
Database Designer/Developer
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 20 13:58:32 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 20:58:32 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040420181039.QNZ1728.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <20040420181039.QNZ1728.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <5043422468.20040420205832@cactus.dk>

Hi Susan

In the query you can pick the value from the form as an expression:

  Select
    ...,
    [Forms].[frmSomeForm].[txtTextbox] As FirstDayOfWeek
  From
    ...

Is is recommendable also to specify this as a parameter to avoid type
mismatch errors, indeed if the textbox is unbound:

  Parameters [Forms].[frmSomeForm].[txtTextbox] Byte;

I don't know what your module does, but basically the date of the
first day of the week of datDate can be found from this formula:

  DateWeekFirst =
    DateAdd("d", vbSunday - WeekDay(datDate, FirstDayOfWeek), datDate)

You would need to replace vbSunday with the actual value (1 for A97).
    
End Function

/gustav


> Let me rephrase that -- if I have to have a module, I don't think I really
> care what gets passed where -- my hope was to eliminate the module and do
> all the calculating in the query or the report and I thought I might be able
> to bypass the module using the openargs argument. Replacing the module I
> have for one that passes the value to a query really doesn't resolve the
> issue I had. 

> Susan H. 

> That's what I'd like to do -- and may do yet  by passing the firstdayofweek
> value from the form to the query instead of the report. Truth is, I don't
> know how -- I can't remember ever passing a value to a query before and a
> parameter query is out.  



From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 20 14:04:25 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 21:04:25 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Form Opening Time
In-Reply-To: <s084f8ab.054@cbc.ca>
References: <s084f8ab.054@cbc.ca>
Message-ID: <6243775065.20040420210425@cactus.dk>

Hi Bryan

Which version, please?

/gustav


> Can anyone explain, or give a possible idea why Turning Jet's SHOWPLAN
> on in the registry, will make a form open in 1/3 of the time it took
> prior to turning it on?

> It now takes about 7 seconds to open, but before it was 22-24 secords.

> Any ideas? I had turned on SHOWPLAN to try and see if any of the
> queries were causing the slowdown in opening.

> Thanks,

> Bryan Carbonnell
> bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca



From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca  Tue Apr 20 14:18:04 2004
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 15:18:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Form Opening Time
Message-ID: <s0853f41.089@cbc.ca>

Access 2000 on Win 2K SP4 with Jet 4, SP8

Bryan Carbonnell
bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca

>>> gustav at cactus.dk 20-Apr-04 3:04:25 PM >>>
Hi Bryan

Which version, please?

/gustav


> Can anyone explain, or give a possible idea why Turning Jet's
SHOWPLAN
> on in the registry, will make a form open in 1/3 of the time it took
> prior to turning it on?

> It now takes about 7 seconds to open, but before it was 22-24
secords.

> Any ideas? I had turned on SHOWPLAN to try and see if any of the
> queries were causing the slowdown in opening.

> Thanks,



From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca  Tue Apr 20 14:31:43 2004
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 15:31:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Form Opening Time
Message-ID: <s085426f.095@cbc.ca>

OOPS.

A2K SP3

Bryan

>>> Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca 20-Apr-04 3:18:04 PM >>>
Access 2000 on Win 2K SP4 with Jet 4, SP8

Bryan Carbonnell
bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca 

>>> gustav at cactus.dk 20-Apr-04 3:04:25 PM >>>
Hi Bryan

Which version, please?

/gustav


> Can anyone explain, or give a possible idea why Turning Jet's
SHOWPLAN
> on in the registry, will make a form open in 1/3 of the time it took
> prior to turning it on?

> It now takes about 7 seconds to open, but before it was 22-24
secords.

> Any ideas? I had turned on SHOWPLAN to try and see if any of the
> queries were causing the slowdown in opening.


From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 20 15:22:34 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 16:22:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <5043422468.20040420205832@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20040420202233.JTRR1705.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 2:59 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report

Hi Susan

In the query you can pick the value from the form as an expression:

  Select
    ...,
    [Forms].[frmSomeForm].[txtTextbox] As FirstDayOfWeek
  From
    ...

Is is recommendable also to specify this as a parameter to avoid type
mismatch errors, indeed if the textbox is unbound:

  Parameters [Forms].[frmSomeForm].[txtTextbox] Byte;

I don't know what your module does, but basically the date of the first day
of the week of datDate can be found from this formula:

  DateWeekFirst =
    DateAdd("d", vbSunday - WeekDay(datDate, FirstDayOfWeek), datDate)

You would need to replace vbSunday with the actual value (1 for A97).
    
End Function

/gustav


> Let me rephrase that -- if I have to have a module, I don't think I 
> really care what gets passed where -- my hope was to eliminate the 
> module and do all the calculating in the query or the report and I 
> thought I might be able to bypass the module using the openargs 
> argument. Replacing the module I have for one that passes the value to 
> a query really doesn't resolve the issue I had.

> Susan H. 

> That's what I'd like to do -- and may do yet  by passing the 
> firstdayofweek value from the form to the query instead of the report. 
> Truth is, I don't know how -- I can't remember ever passing a value to 
> a query before and a parameter query is out.

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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Tue Apr 20 15:23:11 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 16:23:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB86@nnse14.nns.com>

Group,

Is there a method to create a junction table from a non-normalized table?  I
inherited a table that I now need to normalize into two primary tables and a
joining junction table.  The primary tables were easy enough to create, but
how can I create the junction table?

I want to take a records such as:
Fld1	Fld2 	Fld3 	Fld4 	Fld5	<=Fields
Dat1	Fld2 		Fld4 	Fld5	<=Record
Dat2		Fld3	Fld4		<=Record

And turn it into:
Fld1	FldID	<=Fields
Dat1	Fld2	<=Record
Dat1	Fld4	<=Record
Dat1	Fld5	<=Record
Dat2	Fld3	<=Record
Dat2	Fld4	<=Record


Mark


From jmhla at earthlink.net  Tue Apr 20 15:25:09 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 13:25:09 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Is there a printed flag?
Message-ID: <003601c42715$97192320$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

Is there a some type of printed flag for a record to show it has been
printed or do I need roll my own code?

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

 



From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 20 15:41:56 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 16:41:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
References: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB86@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <003001c42717$ebdff2b0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...I know of no simple way to do this ...my approach has always been to add
an ANPK to the original table and then to use that as the control to
populate the derivative tables through a series of queries ...but the
circumstances change so much from mdb to mdb that I've never been able to
write code that ever worked for more than one situation.

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:23 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data


> Group,
>
> Is there a method to create a junction table from a non-normalized table?
I
> inherited a table that I now need to normalize into two primary tables and
a
> joining junction table.  The primary tables were easy enough to create,
but
> how can I create the junction table?
>
> I want to take a records such as:
> Fld1 Fld2 Fld3 Fld4 Fld5 <=Fields
> Dat1 Fld2 Fld4 Fld5 <=Record
> Dat2 Fld3 Fld4 <=Record
>
> And turn it into:
> Fld1 FldID <=Fields
> Dat1 Fld2 <=Record
> Dat1 Fld4 <=Record
> Dat1 Fld5 <=Record
> Dat2 Fld3 <=Record
> Dat2 Fld4 <=Record
>
>
> Mark
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 20 15:48:39 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 16:48:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <5043422468.20040420205832@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20040420204838.HADS1779.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

If the expression's in the query and you open the report without specifying
the value in the form, how would you prevent an error in the form? I suppose
I could just handle it and remind the user to open the form and choose the
first day of the week. 

Right now, I've set the report to default to a value and since the
expression's in the report, it works whether you start from the form or just
open the report. You can't specify the grouping value when you open the
report that way, but at least there's no error -- which is a nice
alternative especially if the first day of the week seldom changes. That way
the user's not forced to go through the form every time. 

I realize I sound really picky -- but these are the sort of nitpicky
problems I get from readers. These solutions have to be as universal as
possible or I get email. :) "It won't work if...." even when I've told them
clearly in the article that it won't work if... but somehow it's still the
article's shortcoming. It's always best if I can head them off. 

Which reminds me -- can someone explain the vbUseSystem constant? There's
almost nothing about it on msdn. It's a system default, but there's not much
about it. Well, the serious search-challenged was unable to find anything on
it besides a vague reference -- no real explanation of the consequences.

Susan H. 

Hi Susan

In the query you can pick the value from the form as an expression:

  Select
    ...,
    [Forms].[frmSomeForm].[txtTextbox] As FirstDayOfWeek
  From
    ...

Is is recommendable also to specify this as a parameter to avoid type
mismatch errors, indeed if the textbox is unbound:

  Parameters [Forms].[frmSomeForm].[txtTextbox] Byte;

I don't know what your module does, but basically the date of the first day
of the week of datDate can be found from this formula:

  DateWeekFirst =
    DateAdd("d", vbSunday - WeekDay(datDate, FirstDayOfWeek), datDate)

You would need to replace vbSunday with the actual value (1 for A97).
    
End Function

/gustav


> Let me rephrase that -- if I have to have a module, I don't think I 
> really care what gets passed where -- my hope was to eliminate the 
> module and do all the calculating in the query or the report and I 
> thought I might be able to bypass the module using the openargs 
> argument. Replacing the module I have for one that passes the value to 
> a query really doesn't resolve the issue I had.

> Susan H. 

> That's what I'd like to do -- and may do yet  by passing the 
> firstdayofweek value from the form to the query instead of the report. 
> Truth is, I don't know how -- I can't remember ever passing a value to 
> a query before and a parameter query is out.

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From pharryecoenen at btinternet.com  Tue Apr 20 15:32:04 2004
From: pharryecoenen at btinternet.com (Harry Coenen)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 21:32:04 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Displaying networked data?
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAL9Kwp6bii0K2NXFiQtqufcKAAAAQAAAA6SLNMKM75U2pIISaac/oCAEAAAAA@btinternet.com>

Hi All

I have a data set, representing policy targets, which is currently ordered
hierarchically, the core tblTargets relating each target to its
ParentTarget. In reality these targets are also related in other ways, e.g.:
- sequentially, some targets preceding others
- jointly, some targets should be evaluated in relation with others
elsewhere in the hierarchy
- externally, each target relating to one or more external targets
(compliance requirements set by a myriad of regulators)
- influentially, a target may or may not influence other targets
- normatively, delivery on each targets can be measured in one or more ways

Do you know of OCX controls capable of visually representing and navigating
such a network of targets.

Currently, I display the hierarchy (in a treeview) and list childtargets,
and other relation types in subforms on tabs of the target form. I have one
proto-solution, consisting of hierachies in different dimensions, to be
displayed bu one treeview selecting the dimensions and a second displaying
the associated hierarchy.

Regards

Harry



From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Tue Apr 20 16:08:28 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 17:08:28 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB87@nnse14.nns.com>

I did just that to create the primary tables.  But, since I've never had to
do this on such a grand scale, I need assistance in generating the junction
table.  Here is pseudo data for clarification.  I've placed dashes to
maintain alignment.

ID--CODE--SA--SAR--SRD
1---EA1---SA--SAR--SRD
2---EEY1--SA
3---EEY2--SA--SAR--SRD

...from the data above, I need:
PK--CODE--TYPE
1---EA1---SA
2---EA1---SAR
3---EA1---SRD
4---EEY1--SA
5---EEY2--SA
6---EEY2--SAR
7---EEY2--SRD

Any suggestions?

Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:42 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data


...I know of no simple way to do this ...my approach has always been to add
an ANPK to the original table and then to use that as the control to
populate the derivative tables through a series of queries ...but the
circumstances change so much from mdb to mdb that I've never been able to
write code that ever worked for more than one situation.

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:23 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data


> Group,
>
> Is there a method to create a junction table from a non-normalized table?
I
> inherited a table that I now need to normalize into two primary tables and
a
> joining junction table.  The primary tables were easy enough to create,
but
> how can I create the junction table?
>
> I want to take a records such as:
> Fld1 Fld2 Fld3 Fld4 Fld5 <=Fields
> Dat1 Fld2 Fld4 Fld5 <=Record
> Dat2 Fld3 Fld4 <=Record
>
> And turn it into:
> Fld1 FldID <=Fields
> Dat1 Fld2 <=Record
> Dat1 Fld4 <=Record
> Dat1 Fld5 <=Record
> Dat2 Fld3 <=Record
> Dat2 Fld4 <=Record
>
>
> Mark
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From pharryecoenen at btinternet.com  Tue Apr 20 15:48:45 2004
From: pharryecoenen at btinternet.com (Harry Coenen)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 21:48:45 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Framework discussion - continuation? YES PLEASE!!!
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAL9Kwp6bii0K2NXFiQtqufcKAAAAQAAAAMs+ca2n+REKAzHqbosXdpwEAAAAA@btinternet.com>

John (and all)

A few suggestions:
Additional service classes:
- error logging/tracing to table or file, I can post a messy attempt to
achieve this with a class which pushes and pops all trace calls to a stack
and writes this to a table/file when an error occurs (together with some
other relevant data)
- behaviours of combinations of controls, e.g.
-- eample of class implementation of combination of treeview/listview with
splicer for explorer like navigation
(I can create the behaviour, but I cannot implement it in a class yet)
-- class implementation of combinations of controls, e.g.
combo/labels/button, see below for further info

My half cent:

Triggered by a recent discussion about lookup-tables, hard-coded lookup
lists, tag, etc.
Recently I had to redevelop a performance monitoring system for a public
sector body. At the start they did not know what they wanted, and at the end
they still didn't. So requirements analysis was a bit difficult to say the
least. Just everything inside and outside the scope of the project related
to just about everything else.
Usually I would have send them home to do their homework first, but since
the project had some very interesting elements I decided to give it a go.

Permananetly changing requirements make you necessarily creative in avoiding
hardcoding. 

What did I do to resolve issues
1.
All lookup fields were filled from lookup tables with the following
structure
LookupFieldID (an autonumber)
LookupFieldShortDescription (for the display on forms and reports)
LookupFieldLongDescription (mainly for value dependent tooltips)
LookupFieldIsActive (boolean set True when field should be displayed in
lookups)
LookupFieldSortOrder (a customisable sort order of the lookups)
LookupFieldMemo  (my documentation + recording of audit trail)
LookupFieldMaxLengthInCharacters (of short description)
LookupFieldMaxLengthInTwips (calculated based on the standard font and size,
and used to determine columnwidth in reports)
LookupFieldParent 
LookupFieldActiveDateFrom
LookupFieldActiveDateTo
and a few others..

Filling combos with source:
SELECT LookupFieldID, LookupFieldShortDescription 
FROM tlkLookupField
WHERE LookupFieldIsActive = True
ORDER BY LookupFieldSortOrder;
linking on 2 columns, making the witdh of the first as small as possible, in
effect only displaying the second

2.
The lookup table is linked to the table (just in case the user wants to view
the description of the meaningless code in a certain column of a record) and
a combobox on the form.
Given the number of lookups only few were actually linked in the
relationships table

3.
On the form I had to display the ShortName and the Tooltip
I achieved this by relating an (additional) label displaying the ShortName
and a commandbutton with the value dependant tooltip, the latter transparent
and overlayed on the former, to the combobox
this gave a combination of 4 controls
cbxLookupfield (the Lookupcombobox dropping down the short description, but
actually entering the ID)
lbxLookupfield (the normal label related to the combo)
lkxLookupField (with the Shortname)
cmxLookupField (with the tooltip from the LongDescription)
So the user still had the look and feel of working with meaningfull
descriptions.

4.
The main user/administrator could add (but not delete) records to Lookup
tables and change the descriptions, IsActive and SortOrder.  All changes
were logged and datestamped to the LookupMemo, thus preserving an audit
trail.
This was all managed from one form with a combobox selecting the different
lookuptables. The table feeding this combobox had again exactly the same
structure as above and could be edited in the same form.


Advantages
- Language independent (by design), both in terms of the internal
organisational language and changing terminology as well as internationally
(just add LookupFieldLanguage and you can start filling the table with
descriptions)
- Perfect Audit trail
- Smart looking forms with additional behaviours easily added (derived from
tlkLookupField) to the combo-combination
- Smart looking report snapshots (dynamically formatted using data from the
above). I only needed a few, thanks to some COOL code for dynamically
positioning controls at runtime from Shamil Salakhetdinov and Stephen
Lebans' code for calculating the width of a data element.
- Highly standardised naming conventions allowed most of the coding to be
reduced to a few loops.

Disadvantages:
-some overhead in a few events
--Form_Current event had to refresh all tooltips and lookups
--After changing the combobox selection I had to refresh the tips and lookup
for that combo
Luckily most of this could be achieved by looping through the controls, the
"x" in the third position of the names above (3) allowed for this.

Next steps?
- Researching the possibility of further streamlining the lookup tables
towards a full fledged data dictionary, e.g. by pulling them into a few
master tables.
- Creating a class for the above combo/label/button behaviour (as soon as I
understand what John, Shamil and a few others are actually doing).



Harry



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Apr 20 16:34:12 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 14:34:12 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Is there a printed flag?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8631272F@infoserver01.infostat.local>

It's strictly roll your own.  Records don't get printed, reports get
printed.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhla at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 12:25 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Is there a printed flag?


Is there a some type of printed flag for a record to show it has been
printed or do I need roll my own code?

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

 

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From pharryecoenen at btinternet.com  Tue Apr 20 16:16:42 2004
From: pharryecoenen at btinternet.com (Harry Coenen)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 22:16:42 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040420204838.HADS1779.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAL9Kwp6bii0K2NXFiQtqufcKAAAAQAAAAl4yAzK7E5EaMl3ADy6kdowEAAAAA@btinternet.com>

Hi Susan

VbUseSystem
My object browser shows:
Const vbUseSystem = 0
    Member of VBA.VbFirstWeekOfYear
Use the day of the week specified in your system settings for the first day
of the week.

Const vbUseSystemDayOfWeek = 0
    Member of VBA.VbDayOfWeek
Use NLS API setting

the descriptions are from the helpfile address:
VbLR6.chm::/html/vamscDateConstants.htm
titled: Date Constants
(XP version)

I suppose in both cases the value will be derived from the systems settings
in the machines registry


Report Error
I usually hide all reports and run them from forms, especially because the
subsets of data the user wants depend on selections made in the forms. Then
I pass the selections to the report and trap the errors. e.g. no data.


Picky?
Users don't read manuals, only their lawyers will do so when you really make
a mess.
So guiding users through the appropriate process with menus, tooltips,
messages, etc. isn't picky, just good service.


Regards

Harry


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>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
>Susan Harkins
>Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 9:49 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
>
>
>If the expression's in the query and you open the report 
>without specifying
>the value in the form, how would you prevent an error in the 
>form? I suppose
>I could just handle it and remind the user to open the form 
>and choose the
>first day of the week. 
>
>Right now, I've set the report to default to a value and since the
>expression's in the report, it works whether you start from 
>the form or just
>open the report. You can't specify the grouping value when you open the
>report that way, but at least there's no error -- which is a nice
>alternative especially if the first day of the week seldom 
>changes. That way
>the user's not forced to go through the form every time. 
>
>I realize I sound really picky -- but these are the sort of nitpicky
>problems I get from readers. These solutions have to be as universal as
>possible or I get email. :) "It won't work if...." even when 
>I've told them
>clearly in the article that it won't work if... but somehow 
>it's still the
>article's shortcoming. It's always best if I can head them off. 
>
>Which reminds me -- can someone explain the vbUseSystem 
>constant? There's
>almost nothing about it on msdn. It's a system default, but 
>there's not much
>about it. Well, the serious search-challenged was unable to 
>find anything on
>it besides a vague reference -- no real explanation of the 
>consequences.
>
>Susan H. 
>
>Hi Susan
>
>In the query you can pick the value from the form as an expression:
>
>  Select
>    ...,
>    [Forms].[frmSomeForm].[txtTextbox] As FirstDayOfWeek
>  From
>    ...
>
>Is is recommendable also to specify this as a parameter to avoid type
>mismatch errors, indeed if the textbox is unbound:
>
>  Parameters [Forms].[frmSomeForm].[txtTextbox] Byte;
>
>I don't know what your module does, but basically the date of 
>the first day
>of the week of datDate can be found from this formula:
>
>  DateWeekFirst =
>    DateAdd("d", vbSunday - WeekDay(datDate, FirstDayOfWeek), datDate)
>
>You would need to replace vbSunday with the actual value (1 for A97).
>    
>End Function
>
>/gustav
>
>
>> Let me rephrase that -- if I have to have a module, I don't think I 
>> really care what gets passed where -- my hope was to eliminate the 
>> module and do all the calculating in the query or the report and I 
>> thought I might be able to bypass the module using the openargs 
>> argument. Replacing the module I have for one that passes 
>the value to 
>> a query really doesn't resolve the issue I had.
>
>> Susan H. 
>
>> That's what I'd like to do -- and may do yet  by passing the 
>> firstdayofweek value from the form to the query instead of 
>the report. 
>> Truth is, I don't know how -- I can't remember ever passing 
>a value to 
>> a query before and a parameter query is out.
>
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 20 16:48:45 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 17:48:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAL9Kwp6bii0K2NXFiQtqufcKAAAAQAAAAl4yAzK7E5EaMl3ADy6kdowEAAAAA@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <20040420214843.NWZL1832.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Use NLS API setting

I suppose in both cases the value will be derived from the systems settings
in the machines registry

=============I wanted more infomration on NLS API -- but didn't turn up
anything. 

Susan H. 



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 20 16:54:26 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 17:54:26 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAL9Kwp6bii0K2NXFiQtqufcKAAAAQAAAAl4yAzK7E5EaMl3ADy6kdowEAAAAA@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <20040420215425.NZPD1832.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Report Error
I usually hide all reports and run them from forms, especially because the
subsets of data the user wants depend on selections made in the forms. Then
I pass the selections to the report and trap the errors. e.g. no data.

==========I was thinking that I might be able to trap the error and in the
errorhandler, set the default value. 

Picky?
Users don't read manuals, only their lawyers will do so when you really make
a mess.
So guiding users through the appropriate process with menus, tooltips,
messages, etc. isn't picky, just good service.

==========Thanks for understanding. Most of the mail I get is really nice.
They just want to know more, so they can take the technique a little
further. But, in my own self-serving way, I'd rather ward off as many of the
"you're an idiot" emails as possible. I don't get very many, which I don't
really think is a reflection of my intelligence, but rather the manners of
most of the readers. ;) 

Susan H. 



From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 20 17:03:11 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 18:03:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
References: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB87@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <001c01c42723$45a311f0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...you've lost me Mark ...I thought you were trying to join data from two
tables ...your latest post looks as if you're trying to pivot the data
instead ...can you clarify it a bit?

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 5:08 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data


> I did just that to create the primary tables.  But, since I've never had
to
> do this on such a grand scale, I need assistance in generating the
junction
> table.  Here is pseudo data for clarification.  I've placed dashes to
> maintain alignment.
>
> ID--CODE--SA--SAR--SRD
> 1---EA1---SA--SAR--SRD
> 2---EEY1--SA
> 3---EEY2--SA--SAR--SRD
>
> ...from the data above, I need:
> PK--CODE--TYPE
> 1---EA1---SA
> 2---EA1---SAR
> 3---EA1---SRD
> 4---EEY1--SA
> 5---EEY2--SA
> 6---EEY2--SAR
> 7---EEY2--SRD
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:42 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
>
>
> ...I know of no simple way to do this ...my approach has always been to
add
> an ANPK to the original table and then to use that as the control to
> populate the derivative tables through a series of queries ...but the
> circumstances change so much from mdb to mdb that I've never been able to
> write code that ever worked for more than one situation.
>
> William Hindman
> "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
> a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
> To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:23 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
>
>
> > Group,
> >
> > Is there a method to create a junction table from a non-normalized
table?
> I
> > inherited a table that I now need to normalize into two primary tables
and
> a
> > joining junction table.  The primary tables were easy enough to create,
> but
> > how can I create the junction table?
> >
> > I want to take a records such as:
> > Fld1 Fld2 Fld3 Fld4 Fld5 <=Fields
> > Dat1 Fld2 Fld4 Fld5 <=Record
> > Dat2 Fld3 Fld4 <=Record
> >
> > And turn it into:
> > Fld1 FldID <=Fields
> > Dat1 Fld2 <=Record
> > Dat1 Fld4 <=Record
> > Dat1 Fld5 <=Record
> > Dat2 Fld3 <=Record
> > Dat2 Fld4 <=Record
> >
> >
> > Mark
> > -- 
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>
>
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Tue Apr 20 17:45:05 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 18:45:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB88@nnse14.nns.com>

Sure...the data started out as an Excel flat file (no normalization).  They
then put it into an Access Db (same format).  I now have the task of
cleaning it up.  The data consists of checklist items, and the checklists to
which they pertain.

In my example, (ID--CODE--SA--SAR--SRD) "code" refers to the checklist item
description, and the last 3 fields are examples of checklist types (which
should have their own table).  I have already created the normalized tables
tblChecklistItems and tblChecklistTypes.  What I need assistance with, is
how to create the junction table of this many to many relationship.  Since
this is the first time I've had to normalize an existing database, a little
"hand-holding" would be appreciated;)



Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 6:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data


...you've lost me Mark ...I thought you were trying to join data from two
tables ...your latest post looks as if you're trying to pivot the data
instead ...can you clarify it a bit?

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 5:08 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data


> I did just that to create the primary tables.  But, since I've never had
to
> do this on such a grand scale, I need assistance in generating the
junction
> table.  Here is pseudo data for clarification.  I've placed dashes to
> maintain alignment.
>
> ID--CODE--SA--SAR--SRD
> 1---EA1---SA--SAR--SRD
> 2---EEY1--SA
> 3---EEY2--SA--SAR--SRD
>
> ...from the data above, I need:
> PK--CODE--TYPE
> 1---EA1---SA
> 2---EA1---SAR
> 3---EA1---SRD
> 4---EEY1--SA
> 5---EEY2--SA
> 6---EEY2--SAR
> 7---EEY2--SRD
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:42 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
>
>
> ...I know of no simple way to do this ...my approach has always been to
add
> an ANPK to the original table and then to use that as the control to
> populate the derivative tables through a series of queries ...but the
> circumstances change so much from mdb to mdb that I've never been able to
> write code that ever worked for more than one situation.
>
> William Hindman
> "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
> a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
> To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:23 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
>
>
> > Group,
> >
> > Is there a method to create a junction table from a non-normalized
table?
> I
> > inherited a table that I now need to normalize into two primary tables
and
> a
> > joining junction table.  The primary tables were easy enough to create,
> but
> > how can I create the junction table?
> >
> > I want to take a records such as:
> > Fld1 Fld2 Fld3 Fld4 Fld5 <=Fields
> > Dat1 Fld2 Fld4 Fld5 <=Record
> > Dat2 Fld3 Fld4 <=Record
> >
> > And turn it into:
> > Fld1 FldID <=Fields
> > Dat1 Fld2 <=Record
> > Dat1 Fld4 <=Record
> > Dat1 Fld5 <=Record
> > Dat2 Fld3 <=Record
> > Dat2 Fld4 <=Record
> >
> >
> > Mark
> > -- 
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> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
>
>
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From jwelz at hotmail.com  Tue Apr 20 18:03:38 2004
From: jwelz at hotmail.com (Jürgen Welz)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 17:03:38 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Displaying networked data?
Message-ID: <BAY2-F156NHduGVfAQe0006bfcd@hotmail.com>

Does the client have MS Project?  It sounds like automation code driving 
Project could give you a Gantt chart view that may prove viable.  It could 
also generate Critical Path views of the data which may be of use as well.


Ciao
J?rgen Welz
Edmonton, Alberta
jwelz at hotmail.com





>From: "Harry Coenen" <pharryecoenen at btinternet.com>
>
>Hi All
>
>I have a data set, representing policy targets, which is currently ordered
>hierarchically, the core tblTargets relating each target to its
>ParentTarget. In reality these targets are also related in other ways, 
>e.g.:
>- sequentially, some targets preceding others
>- jointly, some targets should be evaluated in relation with others
>elsewhere in the hierarchy
>- externally, each target relating to one or more external targets
>(compliance requirements set by a myriad of regulators)
>- influentially, a target may or may not influence other targets
>- normatively, delivery on each targets can be measured in one or more ways
>
>Do you know of OCX controls capable of visually representing and navigating
>such a network of targets.
>
>Currently, I display the hierarchy (in a treeview) and list childtargets,
>and other relation types in subforms on tabs of the target form. I have one
>proto-solution, consisting of hierachies in different dimensions, to be
>displayed bu one treeview selecting the dimensions and a second displaying
>the associated hierarchy.
>
>Regards
>
>Harry

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 20 18:08:04 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 09:08:04 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040420204838.HADS1779.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <5043422468.20040420205832@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <408639F4.13148.52594A8@localhost>

On 20 Apr 2004 at 16:48, Susan Harkins wrote:

> If the expression's in the query and you open the report without specifying
> the value in the form, how would you prevent an error in the form? I suppose
> I could just handle it and remind the user to open the form and choose the
> first day of the week. 

Use the Static function I posted earlier. It will initially return a 
value of 0 (vbUseSystem)
......

> 
> Which reminds me -- can someone explain the vbUseSystem constant? There's
> almost nothing about it on msdn. It's a system default, but there's not much
> about it. Well, the serious search-challenged was unable to find anything on
> it besides a vague reference -- no real explanation of the consequences.
> 

It tells Access to use the NLS API setting.  (National Language 
Supprt)

i.e.  Use the FDOW returned by the GetLocaleInfoA() API call for a 
parameter of "LOCALE_IFIRSTDAYOFWEEK"

 
-- 
Lexacorp Ltd
http://www.lexacorp.com.pg
Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System 
Support.





From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 20 18:22:50 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 09:22:50 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
In-Reply-To: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB87@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <40863D6A.3847.53317A4@localhost>

On 20 Apr 2004 at 17:08, Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport Ne wrote:

> I did just that to create the primary tables.  But, since I've never had to
> do this on such a grand scale, I need assistance in generating the junction
> table.  Here is pseudo data for clarification.  I've placed dashes to
> maintain alignment.
> 
> ID--CODE--SA--SAR--SRD
> 1---EA1---SA--SAR--SRD
> 2---EEY1--SA
> 3---EEY2--SA--SAR--SRD
> 
> ...from the data above, I need:
> PK--CODE--TYPE
> 1---EA1---SA
> 2---EA1---SAR
> 3---EA1---SRD
> 4---EEY1--SA
> 5---EEY2--SA
> 6---EEY2--SAR
> 7---EEY2--SRD
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 

I'd do it in code.
Open the old data set and step through it.
For each record, step through the fields and create a new record in 
the new table where required.

 
-- 
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http://www.lexacorp.com.pg
Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System 
Support.





From DaveSharpe2 at cox.net  Tue Apr 20 18:28:27 2004
From: DaveSharpe2 at cox.net (Dave Sharpe)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 19:28:27 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
References: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB88@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <003001c4272f$2f231130$dd2f0a44@bcsrkeext6137>

Mark

I've sent You an MDB that I hope helps ( I could do what
I thought much easier that I could verbalize My thoughts ).

Dave

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 6:45 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data


Sure...the data started out as an Excel flat file (no normalization).  They
then put it into an Access Db (same format).  I now have the task of
cleaning it up.  The data consists of checklist items, and the checklists to
which they pertain.

In my example, (ID--CODE--SA--SAR--SRD) "code" refers to the checklist item
description, and the last 3 fields are examples of checklist types (which
should have their own table).  I have already created the normalized tables
tblChecklistItems and tblChecklistTypes.  What I need assistance with, is
how to create the junction table of this many to many relationship.  Since
this is the first time I've had to normalize an existing database, a little
"hand-holding" would be appreciated;)



Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 6:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data


...you've lost me Mark ...I thought you were trying to join data from two
tables ...your latest post looks as if you're trying to pivot the data
instead ...can you clarify it a bit?

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 5:08 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data


> I did just that to create the primary tables.  But, since I've never had
to
> do this on such a grand scale, I need assistance in generating the
junction
> table.  Here is pseudo data for clarification.  I've placed dashes to
> maintain alignment.
>
> ID--CODE--SA--SAR--SRD
> 1---EA1---SA--SAR--SRD
> 2---EEY1--SA
> 3---EEY2--SA--SAR--SRD
>
> ...from the data above, I need:
> PK--CODE--TYPE
> 1---EA1---SA
> 2---EA1---SAR
> 3---EA1---SRD
> 4---EEY1--SA
> 5---EEY2--SA
> 6---EEY2--SAR
> 7---EEY2--SRD
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:42 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
>
>
> ...I know of no simple way to do this ...my approach has always been to
add
> an ANPK to the original table and then to use that as the control to
> populate the derivative tables through a series of queries ...but the
> circumstances change so much from mdb to mdb that I've never been able to
> write code that ever worked for more than one situation.
>
> William Hindman
> "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
> a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
> To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:23 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
>
>
> > Group,
> >
> > Is there a method to create a junction table from a non-normalized
table?
> I
> > inherited a table that I now need to normalize into two primary tables
and
> a
> > joining junction table.  The primary tables were easy enough to create,
> but
> > how can I create the junction table?
> >
> > I want to take a records such as:
> > Fld1 Fld2 Fld3 Fld4 Fld5 <=Fields
> > Dat1 Fld2 Fld4 Fld5 <=Record
> > Dat2 Fld3 Fld4 <=Record
> >
> > And turn it into:
> > Fld1 FldID <=Fields
> > Dat1 Fld2 <=Record
> > Dat1 Fld4 <=Record
> > Dat1 Fld5 <=Record
> > Dat2 Fld3 <=Record
> > Dat2 Fld4 <=Record
> >
> >
> > Mark
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From pharryecoenen at btinternet.com  Tue Apr 20 15:34:10 2004
From: pharryecoenen at btinternet.com (Harry Coenen)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 21:34:10 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Access utils and add-ins
In-Reply-To: <12126461489.20040420161551@cactus.dk>
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Hi gustav (and all)


You can add :
Carlos J. Quintero's MZTools
http://www.mztools.com/
Bryan Carbonnell's ListAllVBAVariables
http://www3.sympatico.ca/carbonnb/bryan/index.html

and (slightly more commercial, but please note that I have no personal
commericial interest in any of these)
for $15, CodeCrafter
http://www.codecrafter.com/
delivering about the same functionality as the free MZTools

Rick Fisher's Find and Replace
http://www.rickworld.com/
in combination with
Helen Feddema's LNC Rename add-in
http://www.helenfeddema.com/


And for the ones who want to climb Wittgenstein's ladder:
Shamil Salakhetdinov's topics and DEEP concept
http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/
(some topics are also avialble thourgh http://www.4tops.com/)
or John W. Colby's musings on developing Frameworks
http://www.colbyconsulting.com/


Harry

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>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 3:16 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access utils and add-ins (was: Handling 
>strings in VBASQL scripts?)
>
>
>Hi Harry
>
>Nice collection of utils, add-ins, and code at those links!
>
>/gustav
>
>> Thanks to Skrol29
>> (http://www.skrol29.com/)
>> and Juan M. Af?n deRibera
>> (http://www.mvp-access.com/juanmafan/) ..
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 20 19:08:12 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 20:08:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <408639F4.13148.52594A8@localhost>
Message-ID: <20040421000810.JDLF1728.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

 
It tells Access to use the NLS API setting.  (National Language
Supprt)

i.e.  Use the FDOW returned by the GetLocaleInfoA() API call for a parameter
of "LOCALE_IFIRSTDAYOFWEEK"

=====OK, that last bit helps. Thanks!

Susan H. 



From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Apr 20 19:30:07 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 17:30:07 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access
In-Reply-To: <1861111.1082475577664.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIAENHCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Paul:

There is a way but it has been a long while since I have used it.

1. Create a file, say named return.txt and in notepad place one value, say
'1'.
2. Save file in an appropriate location, (and this is where it might become
complicated), run a program like, old DOS's debug, or a sector or hex editor
against the newly created file. In the editing mode change the value '1' or
now displayed as hex 31 to hex 13 (carriage return).
3. Save the file again and exit the hex editor.

Now you can use the following line of text when shelling to the command
prompt:

strCommand = "C:\Program Files\Winzip\Wzzip.exe " & wzFinal & " " &
strShiftData & " " & strDownTime & " < return.txt" & vbCrLf

wzFiles = Shell(strCommand, vbMaximizedFocus)

At the command prompt, the line should look something like:

C:\Program Files\Winzip\Wzzip.exe xxxx xxxx xxxx < return.txt

HTH
Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 8:40 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] Using WinZip With Access


To all,

Thanks for everybody?s help on this I now know what the problem is.  We are
using an Evaluation copy of Winzip, if I set the focus of the Shell command
below to vbMaximizedFocus:

strCommand = "C:\Program Files\Winzip\Wzzip.exe " & wzFinal & " " &
strShiftData & " " & strDownTime & vbCrLf
            wzFiles = Shell(strCommand, vbMaximizedFocus)

A message appears in the window with press any key to continue, and if I
press any key it works perfect.  Is there anyway I can include the keypress
into the Shell Command.  If I can get this to work automatically then I
should be able to convince the powers that be to invest in the fully
registered version.

Thanks again for everyone?s help on this

Paul Hartland
Database Designer/Developer
Join the UK's number one for the internet
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Apr 20 19:38:23 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 20:38:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
In-Reply-To: <003001c42717$ebdff2b0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPKENFHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

ditto.  add the pk to the original.  then in the new tables add the pk of
the original table as a fk in the new table.  this "points back" to what
record it came from.

POC

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of William
Hindman
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:42 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data


...I know of no simple way to do this ...my approach has always been to add
an ANPK to the original table and then to use that as the control to
populate the derivative tables through a series of queries ...but the
circumstances change so much from mdb to mdb that I've never been able to
write code that ever worked for more than one situation.

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:23 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data


> Group,
>
> Is there a method to create a junction table from a non-normalized table?
I
> inherited a table that I now need to normalize into two primary tables and
a
> joining junction table.  The primary tables were easy enough to create,
but
> how can I create the junction table?
>
> I want to take a records such as:
> Fld1 Fld2 Fld3 Fld4 Fld5 <=Fields
> Dat1 Fld2 Fld4 Fld5 <=Record
> Dat2 Fld3 Fld4 <=Record
>
> And turn it into:
> Fld1 FldID <=Fields
> Dat1 Fld2 <=Record
> Dat1 Fld4 <=Record
> Dat1 Fld5 <=Record
> Dat2 Fld3 <=Record
> Dat2 Fld4 <=Record
>
>
> Mark
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From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Tue Apr 20 19:43:05 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 20:43:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access utils and add-ins
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References: <12126461489.20040420161551@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <40858B59.21981.E312BC@localhost>

On 20 Apr 2004 at 21:34, Harry Coenen wrote:

> You can add :
> Carlos J. Quintero's MZTools
> http://www.mztools.com/
> Bryan Carbonnell's ListAllVBAVariables
> http://www3.sympatico.ca/carbonnb/bryan/index.html

> Rick Fisher's Find and Replace
> http://www.rickworld.com/

> And for the ones who want to climb Wittgenstein's ladder:
> Shamil Salakhetdinov's topics and DEEP concept
> http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/
> (some topics are also avialble thourgh http://www.4tops.com/)
> or John W. Colby's musings on developing Frameworks
> http://www.colbyconsulting.com/

You put *ME* in the same league as MZTools, Rick Fisher's F&R, Shamil 
and JC???

You've got to be kidding!!

<blush>

-- 
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We've all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million 
typewriters will eventually reproduce the entire works of 
Shakespeare.
Now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true.^ [Robert 
Wilensky (1997)]




From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Tue Apr 20 20:00:09 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 19:00:09 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
Message-ID: <255310-22004432110959@christopherhawkins.com>

All,

This is weird.  I have a query that is supposed to return all records
from a Time Entry table where the Entry ID is not in the Line Item
table.

So basically, it's "SELECT [field list here] FROM TimeEntry WHERE
EntryID NOT IN (SELECT EntryID FROM LineItem)".

Pretty simple, right?  I can verify that there are a ton of records
in TimeEntry that have no corresponding record in LineItem.  But when
I run the query above, it returns no records.

Any idea?

-C-




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 20 20:19:14 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:19:14 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
In-Reply-To: <255310-22004432110959@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <408658B2.6832.59DA9FE@localhost>

On 20 Apr 2004 at 19:00, Christopher Hawkins wrote:

> All,
> 
> This is weird.  I have a query that is supposed to return all records
> from a Time Entry table where the Entry ID is not in the Line Item
> table.
> 
> So basically, it's "SELECT [field list here] FROM TimeEntry WHERE
> EntryID NOT IN (SELECT EntryID FROM LineItem)".
> 
> Pretty simple, right?  I can verify that there are a ton of records
> in TimeEntry that have no corresponding record in LineItem.  But when
> I run the query above, it returns no records.
> 

Is EntryID the same datatype in both tables? 

As another thought, make sure that you haven't "quoted" the subquery 
in your actual code..

Maybe pasting the actual code would help.






 
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Support.





From pharryecoenen at btinternet.com  Tue Apr 20 16:35:59 2004
From: pharryecoenen at btinternet.com (Harry Coenen)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 22:35:59 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
In-Reply-To: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB87@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAL9Kwp6bii0K2NXFiQtqufcKAAAAQAAAACQOjiDv3E0qfal8Kt+h32gEAAAAA@btinternet.com>

Hi Mark

How about something like:

SELECT CODE, SA
FROM T1
WHERE SA NOT IS NULL
UNION
SELECT CODE, SAR
FROM T1
WHERE SAR NOT IS NULL
UNION
SELECT CODE, SRD
FROM T1
WHERE SRD NOT IS NULL;

Then you only need to get your PK right
If you really wnat the numbering as indicated you could pass the above query
to a table with a PK as autonumber

There must be a way to do this in the query, I have seen it somewhere, but
where?

Regards

Harry

>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
>Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)
>Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 10:08 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
>
>
>I did just that to create the primary tables.  But, since I've 
>never had to
>do this on such a grand scale, I need assistance in generating 
>the junction
>table.  Here is pseudo data for clarification.  I've placed dashes to
>maintain alignment.
>
>ID--CODE--SA--SAR--SRD
>1---EA1---SA--SAR--SRD
>2---EEY1--SA
>3---EEY2--SA--SAR--SRD
>
>...from the data above, I need:
>PK--CODE--TYPE
>1---EA1---SA
>2---EA1---SAR
>3---EA1---SRD
>4---EEY1--SA
>5---EEY2--SA
>6---EEY2--SAR
>7---EEY2--SRD
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>Mark
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] 
>Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:42 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
>
>
>...I know of no simple way to do this ...my approach has 
>always been to add
>an ANPK to the original table and then to use that as the control to
>populate the derivative tables through a series of queries ...but the
>circumstances change so much from mdb to mdb that I've never 
>been able to
>write code that ever worked for more than one situation.
>
>William Hindman
>"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing 
>your code is
>a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
>To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:23 PM
>Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
>
>
>> Group,
>>
>> Is there a method to create a junction table from a 
>non-normalized table?
>I
>> inherited a table that I now need to normalize into two 
>primary tables and
>a
>> joining junction table.  The primary tables were easy enough 
>to create,
>but
>> how can I create the junction table?
>>
>> I want to take a records such as:
>> Fld1 Fld2 Fld3 Fld4 Fld5 <=Fields
>> Dat1 Fld2 Fld4 Fld5 <=Record
>> Dat2 Fld3 Fld4 <=Record
>>
>> And turn it into:
>> Fld1 FldID <=Fields
>> Dat1 Fld2 <=Record
>> Dat1 Fld4 <=Record
>> Dat1 Fld5 <=Record
>> Dat2 Fld3 <=Record
>> Dat2 Fld4 <=Record
>>
>>
>> Mark
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From andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au  Tue Apr 20 20:27:12 2004
From: andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au (Haslett, Andrew)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 10:57:12 +0930
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
Message-ID: <EAAA1F7DC874D511BA070008C70D61BBE3AABB@adl01s051.ilcorp.gov.au>

I was about to say that the AccessSQL dialect may not be able to handle
derived tables, but I tested it and it worked fine for me.

Are they EntryID fields in both tables different data types perhaps?

A workaround would be to use a Left join and filter where the EntryID is
Null:

Select 
    [field list]
>From 
    TimeEntry
Left Join
    EntryID
ON 
    TimeEntry.EntryID = LineItem.EntryID
WHERE
    LineItem.EntryID IS Null

Cheers,
Andrew

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, 21 April 2004 10:30 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???

All,

This is weird.  I have a query that is supposed to return all records
from a Time Entry table where the Entry ID is not in the Line Item
table.

So basically, it's "SELECT [field list here] FROM TimeEntry WHERE
EntryID NOT IN (SELECT EntryID FROM LineItem)".

Pretty simple, right?  I can verify that there are a ton of records
in TimeEntry that have no corresponding record in LineItem.  But when
I run the query above, it returns no records.

Any idea?

-C-


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From DaveSharpe2 at cox.net  Tue Apr 20 20:26:15 2004
From: DaveSharpe2 at cox.net (Dave Sharpe)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 21:26:15 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
References: <255310-22004432110959@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <003101c4273f$a38dab10$dd2f0a44@bcsrkeext6137>

Christopher

I build graphically ( and this worked ), viewing the code Access
put in some "(" and ")" that might be required.

SELECT output.code
FROM [output]
WHERE (((output.code) Not In (SELECT output_2.code FROM output_2 )));


Dave

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From: "Christopher Hawkins" <clh at christopherhawkins.com>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 9:00 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???


All,

This is weird.  I have a query that is supposed to return all records
from a Time Entry table where the Entry ID is not in the Line Item
table.

So basically, it's "SELECT [field list here] FROM TimeEntry WHERE
EntryID NOT IN (SELECT EntryID FROM LineItem)".

Pretty simple, right?  I can verify that there are a ton of records
in TimeEntry that have no corresponding record in LineItem.  But when
I run the query above, it returns no records.

Any idea?

-C-


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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Tue Apr 20 20:45:23 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 19:45:23 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
Message-ID: <410-2200443211452378@christopherhawkins.com>

Yeah, I did something like that as a temp solution, just to my client
can keep working.

This is damned weird.  I can do the same thing on any other two
tables and it works fine.

Is there a limitation on how many records can be returned in a
subquery?

-Christopher-

---- Original Message ----
From: andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com, 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 10:57:12 +0930

>I was about to say that the AccessSQL dialect may not be able to 
>handle
>derived tables, but I tested it and it worked fine for me.
>
>Are they EntryID fields in both tables different data types perhaps?
>
>A workaround would be to use a Left join and filter where the 
>EntryID is
>Null:
>
>Select 
>    [field list]
>>From 
>    TimeEntry
>Left Join
>    EntryID
>ON 
>    TimeEntry.EntryID = LineItem.EntryID
>WHERE
>    LineItem.EntryID IS Null
>
>Cheers,
>Andrew
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com] 
>Sent: Wednesday, 21 April 2004 10:30 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
>
>All,
>
>This is weird.  I have a query that is supposed to return all records
>from a Time Entry table where the Entry ID is not in the Line Item
>table.
>
>So basically, it's "SELECT [field list here] FROM TimeEntry WHERE
>EntryID NOT IN (SELECT EntryID FROM LineItem)".
>
>Pretty simple, right?  I can verify that there are a ton of records
>in TimeEntry that have no corresponding record in LineItem.  But when
>I run the query above, it returns no records.
>
>Any idea?
>
>-C-
>
>
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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Tue Apr 20 20:48:01 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 19:48:01 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
Message-ID: <184670-2200443211481720@christopherhawkins.com>

Yes, same datatype.  No, no quotes.

Here's the SQL statement.  Understand that StartDate and EndDate are
dates that were passed in to the function that contains this SQL. 
I've pulled it apart into it's component pieces; it's definitely the
IN statement that is failing.

Here's the SQL:

        sInsert = "INSERT INTO TG_InvoiceLine (BlockID, UserId,
InvoiceID, ItemID, [Date], " & _
            "Description, QB_ActivitiesID, Billable, QBCustomerJob,
Qty, LineTotal, LineCost, Rate) " & _
            "SELECT TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockID,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.UserId, TG_qryTimeBlockReview.InvoiceId, " & _
            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.ItemID,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.[Date], TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockDescription,
" & _
            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.QB_ActivitiesID,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.Billable, " & _
            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.QB_NameID,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.Duration AS Qty, " & _
            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.LineTotal,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.LineCost, TG_qryTimeBlockReview.TG_Rate " & _
            "FROM TG_qryTimeBlockReview WHERE
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockID NOT IN (SELECT BlockID FROM
TG_InvoiceLine) AND (((TG_qryTimeBlockReview.[Date]) Between #" &
StartDate & "# And #" & EndDate & "#));"

-C-

---- Original Message ----
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com, 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:19:14 +1000

>On 20 Apr 2004 at 19:00, Christopher Hawkins wrote:
>
>> All,
>> 
>> This is weird.  I have a query that is supposed to return all 
>records
>> from a Time Entry table where the Entry ID is not in the Line Item
>> table.
>> 
>> So basically, it's "SELECT [field list here] FROM TimeEntry WHERE
>> EntryID NOT IN (SELECT EntryID FROM LineItem)".
>> 
>> Pretty simple, right?  I can verify that there are a ton of records
>> in TimeEntry that have no corresponding record in LineItem.  But 
>when
>> I run the query above, it returns no records.
>> 
>
>Is EntryID the same datatype in both tables? 
>
>As another thought, make sure that you haven't "quoted" the subquery 
>in your actual code..
>
>Maybe pasting the actual code would help.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Tue Apr 20 20:48:07 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 19:48:07 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
Message-ID: <63340-2200443211487408@christopherhawkins.com>

Yes, same datatype.  No, no quotes.

Here's the SQL statement.  Understand that StartDate and EndDate are
dates that were passed in to the function that contains this SQL. 
I've pulled it apart into it's component pieces; it's definitely the
IN statement that is failing.

Here's the SQL:

        sInsert = "INSERT INTO TG_InvoiceLine (BlockID, UserId,
InvoiceID, ItemID, [Date], " & _
            "Description, QB_ActivitiesID, Billable, QBCustomerJob,
Qty, LineTotal, LineCost, Rate) " & _
            "SELECT TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockID,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.UserId, TG_qryTimeBlockReview.InvoiceId, " & _
            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.ItemID,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.[Date], TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockDescription,
" & _
            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.QB_ActivitiesID,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.Billable, " & _
            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.QB_NameID,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.Duration AS Qty, " & _
            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.LineTotal,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.LineCost, TG_qryTimeBlockReview.TG_Rate " & _
            "FROM TG_qryTimeBlockReview WHERE
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockID NOT IN (SELECT BlockID FROM
TG_InvoiceLine) AND (((TG_qryTimeBlockReview.[Date]) Between #" &
StartDate & "# And #" & EndDate & "#));"

-C-

---- Original Message ----
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com, 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:19:14 +1000

>On 20 Apr 2004 at 19:00, Christopher Hawkins wrote:
>
>> All,
>> 
>> This is weird.  I have a query that is supposed to return all 
>records
>> from a Time Entry table where the Entry ID is not in the Line Item
>> table.
>> 
>> So basically, it's "SELECT [field list here] FROM TimeEntry WHERE
>> EntryID NOT IN (SELECT EntryID FROM LineItem)".
>> 
>> Pretty simple, right?  I can verify that there are a ton of records
>> in TimeEntry that have no corresponding record in LineItem.  But 
>when
>> I run the query above, it returns no records.
>> 
>
>Is EntryID the same datatype in both tables? 
>
>As another thought, make sure that you haven't "quoted" the subquery 
>in your actual code..
>
>Maybe pasting the actual code would help.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
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>Support.
>
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From andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au  Tue Apr 20 21:00:53 2004
From: andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au (Haslett, Andrew)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:30:53 +0930
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
Message-ID: <EAAA1F7DC874D511BA070008C70D61BBE3AABC@adl01s051.ilcorp.gov.au>

And it still doesn't work if you drop off the date related 'AND' clause in
the where function?

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, 21 April 2004 11:18 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???

Yes, same datatype.  No, no quotes.

Here's the SQL statement.  Understand that StartDate and EndDate are
dates that were passed in to the function that contains this SQL. 
I've pulled it apart into it's component pieces; it's definitely the
IN statement that is failing.

Here's the SQL:

        sInsert = "INSERT INTO TG_InvoiceLine (BlockID, UserId,
InvoiceID, ItemID, [Date], " & _
            "Description, QB_ActivitiesID, Billable, QBCustomerJob,
Qty, LineTotal, LineCost, Rate) " & _
            "SELECT TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockID,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.UserId, TG_qryTimeBlockReview.InvoiceId, " & _
            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.ItemID,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.[Date], TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockDescription,
" & _
            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.QB_ActivitiesID,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.Billable, " & _
            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.QB_NameID,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.Duration AS Qty, " & _
            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.LineTotal,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.LineCost, TG_qryTimeBlockReview.TG_Rate " & _
            "FROM TG_qryTimeBlockReview WHERE
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockID NOT IN (SELECT BlockID FROM
TG_InvoiceLine) AND (((TG_qryTimeBlockReview.[Date]) Between #" &
StartDate & "# And #" & EndDate & "#));"

-C-

---- Original Message ----
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com, 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:19:14 +1000

>On 20 Apr 2004 at 19:00, Christopher Hawkins wrote:
>
>> All,
>> 
>> This is weird.  I have a query that is supposed to return all 
>records
>> from a Time Entry table where the Entry ID is not in the Line Item
>> table.
>> 
>> So basically, it's "SELECT [field list here] FROM TimeEntry WHERE
>> EntryID NOT IN (SELECT EntryID FROM LineItem)".
>> 
>> Pretty simple, right?  I can verify that there are a ton of records
>> in TimeEntry that have no corresponding record in LineItem.  But 
>when
>> I run the query above, it returns no records.
>> 
>
>Is EntryID the same datatype in both tables? 
>
>As another thought, make sure that you haven't "quoted" the subquery 
>in your actual code..
>
>Maybe pasting the actual code would help.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>-- 
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>http://www.lexacorp.com.pg
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>Support.
>
>
>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 20 21:07:36 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 12:07:36 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
In-Reply-To: <63340-2200443211487408@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <40866408.26705.5C9F22C@localhost>

On 20 Apr 2004 at 19:48, Christopher Hawkins wrote:

> Yes, same datatype.  No, no quotes.
> 
> Here's the SQL statement.  Understand that StartDate and EndDate are
> dates that were passed in to the function that contains this SQL. 
> I've pulled it apart into it's component pieces; it's definitely the
> IN statement that is failing.
> 

1.  Does it resolve to:
" (NOT IN.... ) AND...." or "NOT (IN.... AND....)"
Try changing it to
"(NOT IN (SELECT BlockID FROM TG_InvoiceLine)) AND"


2. Are you 105% certain that it's not 
"(((TG_qryTimeBlockReview.[Date]) Between #" &
StartDate & "# And #" & EndDate & "#))" that's failing.

Parsing dates properly can be a real hassle. Your version is likely 
to fail if the default date fromat is "dd/mm/yy"

Try something like
....."Between " & Format$(StartDate,"#mm/dd/yy#") " & " AND " _
& Format$(EndDate,"#mm/dd/yy#")  & .....

> Here's the SQL:
> 
>         sInsert = "INSERT INTO TG_InvoiceLine (BlockID, UserId,
> InvoiceID, ItemID, [Date], " & _
>             "Description, QB_ActivitiesID, Billable, QBCustomerJob,
> Qty, LineTotal, LineCost, Rate) " & _
>             "SELECT TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockID,
> TG_qryTimeBlockReview.UserId, TG_qryTimeBlockReview.InvoiceId, " & _
>             "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.ItemID,
> TG_qryTimeBlockReview.[Date], TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockDescription,
> " & _
>             "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.QB_ActivitiesID,
> TG_qryTimeBlockReview.Billable, " & _
>             "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.QB_NameID,
> TG_qryTimeBlockReview.Duration AS Qty, " & _
>             "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.LineTotal,
> TG_qryTimeBlockReview.LineCost, TG_qryTimeBlockReview.TG_Rate " & _
>             "FROM TG_qryTimeBlockReview WHERE
> TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockID NOT IN (SELECT BlockID FROM
> TG_InvoiceLine) AND (((TG_qryTimeBlockReview.[Date]) Between #" &
> StartDate & "# And #" & EndDate & "#));"
> 
 
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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Tue Apr 20 21:12:11 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 20:12:11 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
Message-ID: <265000-22004432121211411@christopherhawkins.com>

Right.  As long as that IN statement is there, this thing returns
zero records.  There should be 262.

-C-

---- Original Message ----
From: andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com, 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:30:53 +0930

>And it still doesn't work if you drop off the date related 'AND' 
>clause in
>the where function?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com] 
>Sent: Wednesday, 21 April 2004 11:18 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
>
>Yes, same datatype.  No, no quotes.
>
>Here's the SQL statement.  Understand that StartDate and EndDate are
>dates that were passed in to the function that contains this SQL. 
>I've pulled it apart into it's component pieces; it's definitely the
>IN statement that is failing.
>
>Here's the SQL:
>
>        sInsert = "INSERT INTO TG_InvoiceLine (BlockID, UserId,
>InvoiceID, ItemID, [Date], " & _
>            "Description, QB_ActivitiesID, Billable, QBCustomerJob,
>Qty, LineTotal, LineCost, Rate) " & _
>            "SELECT TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockID,
>TG_qryTimeBlockReview.UserId, TG_qryTimeBlockReview.InvoiceId, " & _
>            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.ItemID,
>TG_qryTimeBlockReview.[Date], TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockDescription,
>" & _
>            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.QB_ActivitiesID,
>TG_qryTimeBlockReview.Billable, " & _
>            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.QB_NameID,
>TG_qryTimeBlockReview.Duration AS Qty, " & _
>            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.LineTotal,
>TG_qryTimeBlockReview.LineCost, TG_qryTimeBlockReview.TG_Rate " & _
>            "FROM TG_qryTimeBlockReview WHERE
>TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockID NOT IN (SELECT BlockID FROM
>TG_InvoiceLine) AND (((TG_qryTimeBlockReview.[Date]) Between #" &
>StartDate & "# And #" & EndDate & "#));"
>
>-C-
>
>---- Original Message ----
>From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com, 
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
>Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:19:14 +1000
>
>>On 20 Apr 2004 at 19:00, Christopher Hawkins wrote:
>>
>>> All,
>>> 
>>> This is weird.  I have a query that is supposed to return all 
>>records
>>> from a Time Entry table where the Entry ID is not in the Line Item
>>> table.
>>> 
>>> So basically, it's "SELECT [field list here] FROM TimeEntry WHERE
>>> EntryID NOT IN (SELECT EntryID FROM LineItem)".
>>> 
>>> Pretty simple, right?  I can verify that there are a ton of 
>records
>>> in TimeEntry that have no corresponding record in LineItem.  But 
>>when
>>> I run the query above, it returns no records.
>>> 
>>
>>Is EntryID the same datatype in both tables? 
>>
>>As another thought, make sure that you haven't "quoted" the 
>subquery 
>>in your actual code..
>>
>>Maybe pasting the actual code would help.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>-- 
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>>http://www.lexacorp.com.pg
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>>Support.
>>
>>
>>
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 20 21:17:25 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 22:17:25 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
In-Reply-To: <265000-22004432121211411@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <20040421021754.NPWG1778.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Are you sure the data you're checking meets the conditions? I didn't see the
original question, but if the syntax is correct, then the data's wrong. I've
seen something as simple as a leading space throw off the results and
they're hard to find. 


Right.  As long as that IN statement is there, this thing returns zero
records.  There should be 262.

-C-

---- Original Message ----
From: andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com,
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:30:53 +0930

>And it still doesn't work if you drop off the date related 'AND' 
>clause in
>the where function?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, 21 April 2004 11:18 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
>
>Yes, same datatype.  No, no quotes.
>
>Here's the SQL statement.  Understand that StartDate and EndDate are 
>dates that were passed in to the function that contains this SQL.
>I've pulled it apart into it's component pieces; it's definitely the IN 
>statement that is failing.
>
>Here's the SQL:
>
>        sInsert = "INSERT INTO TG_InvoiceLine (BlockID, UserId, 
>InvoiceID, ItemID, [Date], " & _
>            "Description, QB_ActivitiesID, Billable, QBCustomerJob, 
>Qty, LineTotal, LineCost, Rate) " & _
>            "SELECT TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockID, 
>TG_qryTimeBlockReview.UserId, TG_qryTimeBlockReview.InvoiceId, " & _
>            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.ItemID, 
>TG_qryTimeBlockReview.[Date], TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockDescription,
>" & _
>            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.QB_ActivitiesID,
>TG_qryTimeBlockReview.Billable, " & _
>            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.QB_NameID, 
>TG_qryTimeBlockReview.Duration AS Qty, " & _
>            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.LineTotal, 
>TG_qryTimeBlockReview.LineCost, TG_qryTimeBlockReview.TG_Rate " & _
>            "FROM TG_qryTimeBlockReview WHERE 
>TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockID NOT IN (SELECT BlockID FROM
>TG_InvoiceLine) AND (((TG_qryTimeBlockReview.[Date]) Between #" & 
>StartDate & "# And #" & EndDate & "#));"
>
>-C-
>
>---- Original Message ----
>From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com,
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
>Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:19:14 +1000
>
>>On 20 Apr 2004 at 19:00, Christopher Hawkins wrote:
>>
>>> All,
>>> 
>>> This is weird.  I have a query that is supposed to return all
>>records
>>> from a Time Entry table where the Entry ID is not in the Line Item 
>>> table.
>>> 
>>> So basically, it's "SELECT [field list here] FROM TimeEntry WHERE 
>>> EntryID NOT IN (SELECT EntryID FROM LineItem)".
>>> 
>>> Pretty simple, right?  I can verify that there are a ton of
>records
>>> in TimeEntry that have no corresponding record in LineItem.  But
>>when
>>> I run the query above, it returns no records.
>>> 
>>
>>Is EntryID the same datatype in both tables? 
>>
>>As another thought, make sure that you haven't "quoted" the
>subquery
>>in your actual code..
>>
>>Maybe pasting the actual code would help.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>--
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>>http://www.lexacorp.com.pg
>>Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System 
>>Support.
>>
>>
>>
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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Tue Apr 20 21:27:14 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 20:27:14 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
Message-ID: <191690-22004432122714422@christopherhawkins.com>

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUGH!

There were some nulls in the BlockID field of the TG_InvoiceLine
table.  I set those to 0 and the IN statement started to work again.

Heh.  What an idiot.

Thanks, everybody, and especially Susan for bringing up the dirty
data angle.

-C-

---- Original Message ----
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com, 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 22:17:25 -0400

>Are you sure the data you're checking meets the conditions? I didn't 
>see the
>original question, but if the syntax is correct, then the data's 
>wrong. I've
>seen something as simple as a leading space throw off the results and
>they're hard to find. 
>
>
>Right.  As long as that IN statement is there, this thing returns 
>zero
>records.  There should be 262.
>
>-C-
>
>---- Original Message ----
>From: andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com,
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
>Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:30:53 +0930
>
>>And it still doesn't work if you drop off the date related 'AND' 
>>clause in
>>the where function?
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com]
>>Sent: Wednesday, 21 April 2004 11:18 AM
>>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
>>
>>Yes, same datatype.  No, no quotes.
>>
>>Here's the SQL statement.  Understand that StartDate and EndDate 
>are 
>>dates that were passed in to the function that contains this SQL.
>>I've pulled it apart into it's component pieces; it's definitely 
>the IN 
>>statement that is failing.
>>
>>Here's the SQL:
>>
>>        sInsert = "INSERT INTO TG_InvoiceLine (BlockID, UserId, 
>>InvoiceID, ItemID, [Date], " & _
>>            "Description, QB_ActivitiesID, Billable, QBCustomerJob, 
>>Qty, LineTotal, LineCost, Rate) " & _
>>            "SELECT TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockID, 
>>TG_qryTimeBlockReview.UserId, TG_qryTimeBlockReview.InvoiceId, " & _
>>            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.ItemID, 
>>TG_qryTimeBlockReview.[Date], 
>TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockDescription,
>>" & _
>>            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.QB_ActivitiesID,
>>TG_qryTimeBlockReview.Billable, " & _
>>            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.QB_NameID, 
>>TG_qryTimeBlockReview.Duration AS Qty, " & _
>>            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.LineTotal, 
>>TG_qryTimeBlockReview.LineCost, TG_qryTimeBlockReview.TG_Rate " & _
>>            "FROM TG_qryTimeBlockReview WHERE 
>>TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockID NOT IN (SELECT BlockID FROM
>>TG_InvoiceLine) AND (((TG_qryTimeBlockReview.[Date]) Between #" & 
>>StartDate & "# And #" & EndDate & "#));"
>>
>>-C-
>>
>>---- Original Message ----
>>From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg
>>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com,
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
>>Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:19:14 +1000
>>
>>>On 20 Apr 2004 at 19:00, Christopher Hawkins wrote:
>>>
>>>> All,
>>>> 
>>>> This is weird.  I have a query that is supposed to return all
>>>records
>>>> from a Time Entry table where the Entry ID is not in the Line 
>Item 
>>>> table.
>>>> 
>>>> So basically, it's "SELECT [field list here] FROM TimeEntry 
>WHERE 
>>>> EntryID NOT IN (SELECT EntryID FROM LineItem)".
>>>> 
>>>> Pretty simple, right?  I can verify that there are a ton of
>>records
>>>> in TimeEntry that have no corresponding record in LineItem.  But
>>>when
>>>> I run the query above, it returns no records.
>>>> 
>>>
>>>Is EntryID the same datatype in both tables? 
>>>
>>>As another thought, make sure that you haven't "quoted" the
>>subquery
>>>in your actual code..
>>>
>>>Maybe pasting the actual code would help.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 20 21:35:53 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 22:35:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
In-Reply-To: <191690-22004432122714422@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <20040421023552.SAUG1774.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Susan's my name, dirty data's my game... ;) 

Glad to help. 

Susan H. 

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUGH!

There were some nulls in the BlockID field of the TG_InvoiceLine table.  I
set those to 0 and the IN statement started to work again.

Heh.  What an idiot.

Thanks, everybody, and especially Susan for bringing up the dirty data
angle.




From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Apr 20 21:41:17 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 19:41:17 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040420204838.HADS1779.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIMENJCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Susan:


... how would you prevent an error in the form? I suppose
I could just handle it and remind the user to open the form and ...

Private Sub Report_Open(Cancel As Integer)
  
  If SysCmd(acSysCmdGetObjectState, acForm, "TheFormthatIwhat") <> 0 Then
   If Forms("TheFormthatIwhat").CurrentView = 0 Then
     MsgBox "Form Project must currently" & vbCr & _
           "active to supply information.", vbExclamation, "Error..."
     Cancel = True
   End If
  End If

End Function

Place code similar to this in the Report's Open event.

Jim


From pharryecoenen at btinternet.com  Tue Apr 20 20:58:20 2004
From: pharryecoenen at btinternet.com (Harry Coenen)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 02:58:20 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
In-Reply-To: <63340-2200443211487408@christopherhawkins.com>
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I guess this is it:

WHERE 
  (           '<<=============================bracket added
   TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockID 
   NOT IN 
    (
      SELECT BlockID 
      FROM TG_InvoiceLine
    ) 
  )           '<<=============================bracket added
 AND 
  (
   (
     (TG_qryTimeBlockReview.[Date]) 
	Between 
		#" & StartDate & "# 
	And 
		#" & EndDate & "#
   )
  )
;
"
>
>-C-
>
>---- Original Message ----
>From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com, 
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
>Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:19:14 +1000
>
>>On 20 Apr 2004 at 19:00, Christopher Hawkins wrote:
>>
>>> All,
>>> 
>>> This is weird.  I have a query that is supposed to return all 
>>records
>>> from a Time Entry table where the Entry ID is not in the Line Item
>>> table.
>>> 
>>> So basically, it's "SELECT [field list here] FROM TimeEntry WHERE
>>> EntryID NOT IN (SELECT EntryID FROM LineItem)".
>>> 
>>> Pretty simple, right?  I can verify that there are a ton of records
>>> in TimeEntry that have no corresponding record in LineItem.  But 
>>when
>>> I run the query above, it returns no records.
>>> 
>>
>>Is EntryID the same datatype in both tables? 
>>
>>As another thought, make sure that you haven't "quoted" the subquery 
>>in your actual code..
>>
>>Maybe pasting the actual code would help.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
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>>http://www.lexacorp.com.pg
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>>Support.
>>
>>
>>
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From pharryecoenen at btinternet.com  Tue Apr 20 17:51:05 2004
From: pharryecoenen at btinternet.com (Harry Coenen)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 23:51:05 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040420214843.NWZL1832.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
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Hi Susan

>From Google: NLS = National Language Support

Constant Value Description 
vbUseSystem 0 Use National Language Support (NLS) API setting.
vbSunday 1 Sunday 
vbMonday 2 Monday 
vbTuesday 3 Tuesday 
vbWednesday 4 Wednesday 
vbThursday 5 Thursday 
vbFriday 6 Friday 
vbSaturday 7 Saturday 

And that's where the search ends
But comparing, for example, USA and and UK(English) calendars the NLS would
probably be:
USA NLS = 1 = Sunday
UK  NLS = 2 = Monday


In case of doubt, I would like to suggest your DON't use the user's system
settings, but enforce the correct FirstDayOfWeek and FirstWeekofYear based
on company policy


Regards
Harry


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>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
>Susan Harkins
>Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 10:49 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
>
>
>Use NLS API setting
>
>I suppose in both cases the value will be derived from the 
>systems settings
>in the machines registry
>
>=============I wanted more infomration on NLS API -- but didn't turn up
>anything. 
>
>Susan H. 
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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Tue Apr 20 23:19:20 2004
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (David McAfee (Home))
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 21:19:20 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
In-Reply-To: <184670-2200443211481720@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKGEGNEBAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

This is a known issue with "IN (Select..."

You need to create an unmatched query using left join:

Select * from tblA
LEFT JOIN tblB
  ON tblA.PK = tblB.FK
WHERE tblB.FK = Null



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Christopher
Hawkins
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 6:48 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???


Yes, same datatype.  No, no quotes.

Here's the SQL statement.  Understand that StartDate and EndDate are
dates that were passed in to the function that contains this SQL. 
I've pulled it apart into it's component pieces; it's definitely the
IN statement that is failing.

Here's the SQL:

        sInsert = "INSERT INTO TG_InvoiceLine (BlockID, UserId,
InvoiceID, ItemID, [Date], " & _
            "Description, QB_ActivitiesID, Billable, QBCustomerJob,
Qty, LineTotal, LineCost, Rate) " & _
            "SELECT TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockID,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.UserId, TG_qryTimeBlockReview.InvoiceId, " & _
            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.ItemID,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.[Date], TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockDescription,
" & _
            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.QB_ActivitiesID,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.Billable, " & _
            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.QB_NameID,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.Duration AS Qty, " & _
            "TG_qryTimeBlockReview.LineTotal,
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.LineCost, TG_qryTimeBlockReview.TG_Rate " & _
            "FROM TG_qryTimeBlockReview WHERE
TG_qryTimeBlockReview.BlockID NOT IN (SELECT BlockID FROM
TG_InvoiceLine) AND (((TG_qryTimeBlockReview.[Date]) Between #" &
StartDate & "# And #" & EndDate & "#));"

-C-

---- Original Message ----
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com, 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:19:14 +1000

>On 20 Apr 2004 at 19:00, Christopher Hawkins wrote:
>
>> All,
>> 
>> This is weird.  I have a query that is supposed to return all 
>records
>> from a Time Entry table where the Entry ID is not in the Line Item
>> table.
>> 
>> So basically, it's "SELECT [field list here] FROM TimeEntry WHERE
>> EntryID NOT IN (SELECT EntryID FROM LineItem)".
>> 
>> Pretty simple, right?  I can verify that there are a ton of records
>> in TimeEntry that have no corresponding record in LineItem.  But 
>when
>> I run the query above, it returns no records.
>> 
>
>Is EntryID the same datatype in both tables? 
>
>As another thought, make sure that you haven't "quoted" the subquery 
>in your actual code..
>
>Maybe pasting the actual code would help.


From pharryecoenen at btinternet.com  Tue Apr 20 20:51:19 2004
From: pharryecoenen at btinternet.com (Harry Coenen)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 02:51:19 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
In-Reply-To: <255310-22004432110959@christopherhawkins.com>
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Christopher

Should work indeed (does in A2k2)

a.1 If in Query designer, look at properties of query 
a.2 Make sure the both EntryID fields are of the same DataType
a.3 check for trailing spaces if this datatype is Text (can happen with
impoerts from other sources or connections with other sources. Use Trim() to
strip of spaces in the query (see below)

b. avoid possible ambiguity by ysing table

SELECT [field list here] 
FROM TimeEntry
WHERE Trim(TimeEntry.EntryID) NOT IN 
(SELECT Trim(LineItem.EntryID) FROM LineItem)

c. try the JOIN equivalent, works probably faster because the engine should
deliver better optimization

SELECT [field list here] 
FROM TimeEntry LEFT JOIN LineItem
ON TimeEntry.EntryID = LineItem.EntryID
WHERE (LineItem.EntryID  Is Null) ;

d. Try 

SELECT [field list here] 
FROM TimeEntry
WHERE NOT EXISTS 
(SELECT LineItem.EntryID 
FROM LineItem
WHERE LineItem.EntryID = TimeEntry.EntryID) ;

e. Give Up



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>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
>Christopher Hawkins
>Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 2:00 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
>
>
>All,
>
>This is weird.  I have a query that is supposed to return all records
>from a Time Entry table where the Entry ID is not in the Line Item
>table.
>
>So basically, it's "SELECT [field list here] FROM TimeEntry WHERE
>EntryID NOT IN (SELECT EntryID FROM LineItem)".
>
>Pretty simple, right?  I can verify that there are a ton of records
>in TimeEntry that have no corresponding record in LineItem.  But when
>I run the query above, it returns no records.
>
>Any idea?
>
>-C-
>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 21 03:19:20 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 10:19:20 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040420204838.HADS1779.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <20040420204838.HADS1779.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <655792989.20040421101920@cactus.dk>

Hi Susan

Well, I didn't try to prove an alternative method would be "easier",
and you didn't specify that the report should be able to run without
the form open; it sounded liked you opened the report from a button on
the form after having selected a First-Day-Of-Week.

I agree that for wild "applications" where users can do anything even
having access to tables and report/form design you must take into
account that this or that form may not be open or may have been closed
by the user. There are many ways to handle these chaos scenarios,
ranging from simple error traps and message boxes to, for this case,
forcing the report to open the form if it is closed or closing the
report on open if the form is not open.

The missing selection of a First-Day-Of-Week on the form could be
handled by setting a default value.

For myself, I would probably apply the suggestion of Stuart, but I
realize that static functions may fly above the head of the average
user.

/gustav


> If the expression's in the query and you open the report without specifying
> the value in the form, how would you prevent an error in the form? I suppose
> I could just handle it and remind the user to open the form and choose the
> first day of the week. 

> Right now, I've set the report to default to a value and since the
> expression's in the report, it works whether you start from the form or just
> open the report. You can't specify the grouping value when you open the
> report that way, but at least there's no error -- which is a nice
> alternative especially if the first day of the week seldom changes. That way
> the user's not forced to go through the form every time. 

> I realize I sound really picky -- but these are the sort of nitpicky
> problems I get from readers. These solutions have to be as universal as
> possible or I get email. :) "It won't work if...." even when I've told them
> clearly in the article that it won't work if... but somehow it's still the
> article's shortcoming. It's always best if I can head them off. 

> Which reminds me -- can someone explain the vbUseSystem constant? There's
> almost nothing about it on msdn. It's a system default, but there's not much
> about it. Well, the serious search-challenged was unable to find anything on
> it besides a vague reference -- no real explanation of the consequences.

> Susan H. 

> Hi Susan

> In the query you can pick the value from the form as an expression:

>   Select
>     ...,
>     [Forms].[frmSomeForm].[txtTextbox] As FirstDayOfWeek
>   From
>     ...

> Is is recommendable also to specify this as a parameter to avoid type
> mismatch errors, indeed if the textbox is unbound:

>   Parameters [Forms].[frmSomeForm].[txtTextbox] Byte;

> I don't know what your module does, but basically the date of the first day
> of the week of datDate can be found from this formula:

>   DateWeekFirst =
>     DateAdd("d", vbSunday - WeekDay(datDate, FirstDayOfWeek), datDate)

> You would need to replace vbSunday with the actual value (1 for A97).
    
> End Function

> /gustav


>> Let me rephrase that -- if I have to have a module, I don't think I 
>> really care what gets passed where -- my hope was to eliminate the 
>> module and do all the calculating in the query or the report and I 
>> thought I might be able to bypass the module using the openargs 
>> argument. Replacing the module I have for one that passes the value to 
>> a query really doesn't resolve the issue I had.

>> Susan H. 

>> That's what I'd like to do -- and may do yet  by passing the 
>> firstdayofweek value from the form to the query instead of the report. 
>> Truth is, I don't know how -- I can't remember ever passing a value to 
>> a query before and a parameter query is out.

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 21 04:16:27 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:16:27 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
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Message-ID: <1139219717.20040421111627@cactus.dk>

Hi Mark

I would go with the union query as well.

The ID can be added by a function like this:

<code>

Public Function SequentialID( _
  ByVal booReset As Boolean, _
  Optional ByVal varDummy, _
  Optional ByVal intIncrement As Integer = 1, _
  Optional ByVal lngInitialID As Long) As Long
  
  ' Increments static variable lngCurrentID with intIncrement.
  ' Returns the new value of lngCurrentID.
  ' Parameter varDummy is used to force repeated calls of
  ' this function when used in a query.
  '
  ' Reset to start counting from zero incrementing by one:
  '   Call SequentialID(True)
  ' Reset to start counting from 1000:
  '   Call SequentialID(True, Null, 1, 1000)
  ' Reset to start counting from zero incrementing by 2:
  '   Call SequentialID(True, Null, 2)
  ' Reset to start counting from -2000 incrementing by -8
  ' and returning initial ID:
  '   lngID = SequentialID(True, Null, -8, -2000)
  '
  ' Retrieve the current ID:
  '   lngID = SequentialID(False)
  ' Do a count by one and retrieve the current ID:
  '   lngID = SequentialID(False, Null, 1)
  ' Do a count by one in a query and retrieve the current ID:
  '   lngID = SequentialID(False, [fldAnyField], 1)
  ' Do a count by minus two and retrieve the current ID:
  '   lngID = SequentialID(False, varAny, -2)
  '
  ' 2001-12-13. Cactus Data ApS, CPH.
  
  Static lngCurrentID As Long
  Dim intSgn          As Integer
  
  If booReset = True Then
    ' Reset ID.
    lngCurrentID = lngInitialID
  ElseIf Not intIncrement = 0 Then
    intSgn = Sgn(intIncrement)
    If intSgn * lngCurrentID < intSgn * lngInitialID Then
      ' Reset ID.
      lngCurrentID = lngInitialID
    Else
      ' Increment ID.
      lngCurrentID = lngCurrentID + intIncrement
    End If
  End If
  
  SequentialID = lngCurrentID
  
End Function

</code>

Have fun!

/gustav


> How about something like:

> SELECT CODE, SA
> FROM T1
> WHERE SA NOT IS NULL
> UNION
> SELECT CODE, SAR
> FROM T1
> WHERE SAR NOT IS NULL
> UNION
> SELECT CODE, SRD
> FROM T1
> WHERE SRD NOT IS NULL;

> Then you only need to get your PK right
> If you really wnat the numbering as indicated you could pass the above query
> to a table with a PK as autonumber

> There must be a way to do this in the query, I have seen it somewhere, but
> where?

> Regards

> Harry

>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
>>Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 10:08 PM
>>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
>>
>>
>>I did just that to create the primary tables.  But, since I've 
>>never had to
>>do this on such a grand scale, I need assistance in generating 
>>the junction
>>table.  Here is pseudo data for clarification.  I've placed dashes to
>>maintain alignment.
>>
>>ID--CODE--SA--SAR--SRD
>>1---EA1---SA--SAR--SRD
>>2---EEY1--SA
>>3---EEY2--SA--SAR--SRD
>>
>>...from the data above, I need:
>>PK--CODE--TYPE
>>1---EA1---SA
>>2---EA1---SAR
>>3---EA1---SRD
>>4---EEY1--SA
>>5---EEY2--SA
>>6---EEY2--SAR
>>7---EEY2--SRD
>>
>>Any suggestions?
>>
>>Mark
>>
>>
>>
>>> Is there a method to create a junction table from a non-normalized table?
>>> I inherited a table that I now need to normalize into two primary tables and
>>> a joining junction table.  The primary tables were easy enough to create,
>>> but how can I create the junction table?
>>>
>>> I want to take a records such as:
>>> Fld1 Fld2 Fld3 Fld4 Fld5 <=Fields
>>> Dat1 Fld2 Fld4 Fld5 <=Record
>>> Dat2 Fld3 Fld4 <=Record
>>>
>>> And turn it into:
>>> Fld1 FldID <=Fields
>>> Dat1 Fld2 <=Record
>>> Dat1 Fld4 <=Record
>>> Dat1 Fld5 <=Record
>>> Dat2 Fld3 <=Record
>>> Dat2 Fld4 <=Record



From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Wed Apr 21 06:48:01 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 07:48:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB8A@nnse14.nns.com>

Thank you so much for your combined suggestions.  I too thought that this
could somehow be completed using some sort of self-join or union type of
query, but had no idea as to how to proceed.  I will be digesting this
today.


Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: Harry Coenen [mailto:pharryecoenen at btinternet.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 5:36 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data


Hi Mark

How about something like:

SELECT CODE, SA
FROM T1
WHERE SA NOT IS NULL
UNION
SELECT CODE, SAR
FROM T1
WHERE SAR NOT IS NULL
UNION
SELECT CODE, SRD
FROM T1
WHERE SRD NOT IS NULL;

Then you only need to get your PK right
If you really wnat the numbering as indicated you could pass the above query
to a table with a PK as autonumber

There must be a way to do this in the query, I have seen it somewhere, but
where?

Regards

Harry

>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
>Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)
>Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 10:08 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
>
>
>I did just that to create the primary tables.  But, since I've 
>never had to
>do this on such a grand scale, I need assistance in generating 
>the junction
>table.  Here is pseudo data for clarification.  I've placed dashes to
>maintain alignment.
>
>ID--CODE--SA--SAR--SRD
>1---EA1---SA--SAR--SRD
>2---EEY1--SA
>3---EEY2--SA--SAR--SRD
>
>...from the data above, I need:
>PK--CODE--TYPE
>1---EA1---SA
>2---EA1---SAR
>3---EA1---SRD
>4---EEY1--SA
>5---EEY2--SA
>6---EEY2--SAR
>7---EEY2--SRD
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>Mark
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: William Hindman [mailto:wdhindman at bellsouth.net] 
>Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:42 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
>
>
>...I know of no simple way to do this ...my approach has 
>always been to add
>an ANPK to the original table and then to use that as the control to
>populate the derivative tables through a series of queries ...but the
>circumstances change so much from mdb to mdb that I've never 
>been able to
>write code that ever worked for more than one situation.
>
>William Hindman
>"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing 
>your code is
>a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
>To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:23 PM
>Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
>
>
>> Group,
>>
>> Is there a method to create a junction table from a 
>non-normalized table?
>I
>> inherited a table that I now need to normalize into two 
>primary tables and
>a
>> joining junction table.  The primary tables were easy enough 
>to create,
>but
>> how can I create the junction table?
>>
>> I want to take a records such as:
>> Fld1 Fld2 Fld3 Fld4 Fld5 <=Fields
>> Dat1 Fld2 Fld4 Fld5 <=Record
>> Dat2 Fld3 Fld4 <=Record
>>
>> And turn it into:
>> Fld1 FldID <=Fields
>> Dat1 Fld2 <=Record
>> Dat1 Fld4 <=Record
>> Dat1 Fld5 <=Record
>> Dat2 Fld3 <=Record
>> Dat2 Fld4 <=Record
>>
>>
>> Mark
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Wed Apr 21 06:53:08 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 07:53:08 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB8C@nnse14.nns.com>

This is the approach I was leaning towards.  I've parsed many a text file in
my day and can definitely do this, but, being primarily self-taught in SQL,
I thought perhaps I was missing something basic that would be considered
common knowledge to most.



Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart McLachlan [mailto:stuart at lexacorp.com.pg] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 7:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data


On 20 Apr 2004 at 17:08, Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport Ne wrote:

> I did just that to create the primary tables.  But, since I've never had
to
> do this on such a grand scale, I need assistance in generating the
junction
> table.  Here is pseudo data for clarification.  I've placed dashes to
> maintain alignment.
> 
> ID--CODE--SA--SAR--SRD
> 1---EA1---SA--SAR--SRD
> 2---EEY1--SA
> 3---EEY2--SA--SAR--SRD
> 
> ...from the data above, I need:
> PK--CODE--TYPE
> 1---EA1---SA
> 2---EA1---SAR
> 3---EA1---SRD
> 4---EEY1--SA
> 5---EEY2--SA
> 6---EEY2--SAR
> 7---EEY2--SRD
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 

I'd do it in code.
Open the old data set and step through it.
For each record, step through the fields and create a new record in 
the new table where required.

 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Apr 21 07:02:45 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 22:02:45 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
In-Reply-To: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB8C@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <4086EF85.22013.7EAD090@localhost>

On 21 Apr 2004 at 7:53, Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport Ne wrote:

> This is the approach I was leaning towards.  I've parsed many a text file in
> my day and can definitely do this, but, being primarily self-taught in SQL,
> I thought perhaps I was missing something basic that would be considered
> common knowledge to most.
> 
> I'd do it in code.
> Open the old data set and step through it.
> For each record, step through the fields and create a new record in 
> the new table where required.
> 

Having seen a couple of other responses and thought about it a bit 
more,  I wouldn't do it this way now. Using three UNIONed queries  
into an empty table with a predefinded Automnumber field is simpler.







 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Apr 21 07:02:45 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 22:02:45 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
In-Reply-To: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB8C@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <4086EF85.22013.7EAD090@localhost>

On 21 Apr 2004 at 7:53, Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport Ne wrote:

> This is the approach I was leaning towards.  I've parsed many a text file in
> my day and can definitely do this, but, being primarily self-taught in SQL,
> I thought perhaps I was missing something basic that would be considered
> common knowledge to most.
> 
> I'd do it in code.
> Open the old data set and step through it.
> For each record, step through the fields and create a new record in 
> the new table where required.
> 

Having seen a couple of other responses and thought about it a bit 
more,  I wouldn't do it this way now. Using three UNIONed queries  
into an empty table with a predefinded Automnumber field is simpler.







 
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Wed Apr 21 07:48:45 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 08:48:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB8D@nnse14.nns.com>

I have admittedly been using pseudo names for the actual data, there will be
in fact, several more fields in this query resulting in a rather large union
query.  In the event that I run into problems, is there anyone who would
volunteer to look over my actual query structure?



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart McLachlan [mailto:stuart at lexacorp.com.pg] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 8:03 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data


On 21 Apr 2004 at 7:53, Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport Ne wrote:

> This is the approach I was leaning towards.  I've parsed many a text file
in
> my day and can definitely do this, but, being primarily self-taught in
SQL,
> I thought perhaps I was missing something basic that would be considered
> common knowledge to most.
> 
> I'd do it in code.
> Open the old data set and step through it.
> For each record, step through the fields and create a new record in 
> the new table where required.
> 

Having seen a couple of other responses and thought about it a bit 
more,  I wouldn't do it this way now. Using three UNIONed queries  
into an empty table with a predefinded Automnumber field is simpler.







 
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Wed Apr 21 08:58:37 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 09:58:37 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data *SOLVED*
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB8F@nnse14.nns.com>

Although it seemed, at first, rather complicated, the union query worked
great.  My only thought was I wish there was a simpler way to turn a union
query into a Make-Table query:(  But we can't have everything, can we?


Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 5:16 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data


Hi Mark

I would go with the union query as well.

The ID can be added by a function like this:

<code>

Public Function SequentialID( _
  ByVal booReset As Boolean, _
  Optional ByVal varDummy, _
  Optional ByVal intIncrement As Integer = 1, _
  Optional ByVal lngInitialID As Long) As Long
  
  ' Increments static variable lngCurrentID with intIncrement.
  ' Returns the new value of lngCurrentID.
  ' Parameter varDummy is used to force repeated calls of
  ' this function when used in a query.
  '
  ' Reset to start counting from zero incrementing by one:
  '   Call SequentialID(True)
  ' Reset to start counting from 1000:
  '   Call SequentialID(True, Null, 1, 1000)
  ' Reset to start counting from zero incrementing by 2:
  '   Call SequentialID(True, Null, 2)
  ' Reset to start counting from -2000 incrementing by -8
  ' and returning initial ID:
  '   lngID = SequentialID(True, Null, -8, -2000)
  '
  ' Retrieve the current ID:
  '   lngID = SequentialID(False)
  ' Do a count by one and retrieve the current ID:
  '   lngID = SequentialID(False, Null, 1)
  ' Do a count by one in a query and retrieve the current ID:
  '   lngID = SequentialID(False, [fldAnyField], 1)
  ' Do a count by minus two and retrieve the current ID:
  '   lngID = SequentialID(False, varAny, -2)
  '
  ' 2001-12-13. Cactus Data ApS, CPH.
  
  Static lngCurrentID As Long
  Dim intSgn          As Integer
  
  If booReset = True Then
    ' Reset ID.
    lngCurrentID = lngInitialID
  ElseIf Not intIncrement = 0 Then
    intSgn = Sgn(intIncrement)
    If intSgn * lngCurrentID < intSgn * lngInitialID Then
      ' Reset ID.
      lngCurrentID = lngInitialID
    Else
      ' Increment ID.
      lngCurrentID = lngCurrentID + intIncrement
    End If
  End If
  
  SequentialID = lngCurrentID
  
End Function

</code>

Have fun!

/gustav


> How about something like:

> SELECT CODE, SA
> FROM T1
> WHERE SA NOT IS NULL
> UNION
> SELECT CODE, SAR
> FROM T1
> WHERE SAR NOT IS NULL
> UNION
> SELECT CODE, SRD
> FROM T1
> WHERE SRD NOT IS NULL;

> Then you only need to get your PK right
> If you really wnat the numbering as indicated you could pass the above
query
> to a table with a PK as autonumber

> There must be a way to do this in the query, I have seen it somewhere, but
> where?

> Regards

> Harry

>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
>>Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 10:08 PM
>>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data
>>
>>
>>I did just that to create the primary tables.  But, since I've 
>>never had to
>>do this on such a grand scale, I need assistance in generating 
>>the junction
>>table.  Here is pseudo data for clarification.  I've placed dashes to
>>maintain alignment.
>>
>>ID--CODE--SA--SAR--SRD
>>1---EA1---SA--SAR--SRD
>>2---EEY1--SA
>>3---EEY2--SA--SAR--SRD
>>
>>...from the data above, I need:
>>PK--CODE--TYPE
>>1---EA1---SA
>>2---EA1---SAR
>>3---EA1---SRD
>>4---EEY1--SA
>>5---EEY2--SA
>>6---EEY2--SAR
>>7---EEY2--SRD
>>
>>Any suggestions?
>>
>>Mark
>>
>>
>>
>>> Is there a method to create a junction table from a non-normalized
table?
>>> I inherited a table that I now need to normalize into two primary tables
and
>>> a joining junction table.  The primary tables were easy enough to
create,
>>> but how can I create the junction table?
>>>
>>> I want to take a records such as:
>>> Fld1 Fld2 Fld3 Fld4 Fld5 <=Fields
>>> Dat1 Fld2 Fld4 Fld5 <=Record
>>> Dat2 Fld3 Fld4 <=Record
>>>
>>> And turn it into:
>>> Fld1 FldID <=Fields
>>> Dat1 Fld2 <=Record
>>> Dat1 Fld4 <=Record
>>> Dat1 Fld5 <=Record
>>> Dat2 Fld3 <=Record
>>> Dat2 Fld4 <=Record

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 21 09:24:09 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 16:24:09 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Create Junction Table From Existing Data *SOLVED*
In-Reply-To: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB8F@nnse14.nns.com>
References: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB8F@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <9527682034.20040421162409@cactus.dk>

Hi Mark

> Although it seemed, at first, rather complicated, the union query worked
> great.  My only thought was I wish there was a simpler way to turn a union
> query into a Make-Table query:(  But we can't have everything, can we?

When I need that, I create the union query as a select query. Then I
use that query as source in a new query (append or create) - that way
you can keep the union query as simple as possible.

/gustav

> I would go with the union query as well.



From KIsmert at TexasSystems.com  Wed Apr 21 10:49:44 2004
From: KIsmert at TexasSystems.com (Ken Ismert)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 10:49:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040420174912.DNB1728.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <001a01c427b8$449dbb30$2a3ca8c0@TEXASSYSTEMS.COM>


Have you tried an expression in your query like:

GroupDay:
(Weekday([DateField])+IIf(Weekday([DateField])<[FirstDayOfWeek],7,0))

For a FirstDayOfWeek = 4 (Wednesday), it would return the desired grouping
order:

WeekDay   GroupDay
  4         4
  5         5
  6         6
  7         7
  1         8
  2         9
  3         10

This way, you can avoid any function or calculated control on your report.
You could replace [FirstDayOfWeek] with WeekDay(Date()), or source it from a
form.

-Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 12:49 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


That's what I'd like to do -- and may do yet  by passing the firstdayofweek
value from the form to the query instead of the report. Truth is, I don't
know how -- I can't remember ever passing a value to a query before and a
parameter query is out.

Susan H.

Right.  Except when I need to sort or group on an unbound control.  That's
when I have to add it to the query and bind the control to that field in the
query.






From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Wed Apr 21 13:26:52 2004
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 23:56:52 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
References: <20040417224653.KZKB1818.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <009601c427ce$7b629120$ef1865cb@winxp>

Susan,

    For date field named CDate, in report named R_Sales, the following course of action should meet your needs -

    (a) In the sorting and grouping dialog box of the report, enter the following expression (pl watch for word wrap) as first item in first column -
    =Format([CDate],"yyyy") & Format(DatePart("ww",[CDate],Fn_WeekStart()),"00")
    Set the sort order to Ascending
    Set the group header property for this item to Yes.

    (b) Select CDate as the second item in sorting and grouping dialog box and set the sort order to Ascending

    (c) Put the following code in report's open event so as to initialize the global variable WkStart -
    Private Sub Report_Open(Cancel As Integer)
        WkStart = IIf(Len(Me.OpenArgs) > 0, Me.OpenArgs, 1)
    End Sub

    (d) In the form, put the following code in click event of the command button for opening the report -
    Private Sub CmdReport_Click()
        DoCmd.OpenReport "R_Sales",  _
                        acViewPreview, , , , TxtWkStart
    End Sub
    ' Note - TxtWkStart is the text box where the user enters his choice of starting day of the week. Default value can be set as 1 (Sunday). Validation rule >= 1 And <= 7

    (e) In the general module, code block given below may be put -
    Option Compare Database
    Option Explicit
    Public WkStart As Integer   ' Global Variable.

    Public Function Fn_WeekStart()
        Fn_WeekStart = IIf(WkStart > 0, WkStart, 1)
    End Function

    With the above measures, dynamic manipulation of start day for weeks constituting group headers should proceed smoothly without unwanted error messages.

    Note - As an alternative, the global variable WkStart can be initialized directly from the click event of command button. In such a case the procedure in open event of the report (mentioned above) should be commented out. In fact this second alternative is considered preferable.

Regards,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Susan Harkins 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 04:16
  Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


  I'm grouping and sorting a report on a date field. The grouping is by the
  week -- but I want it to handle a changing first day of the week variable. I
  can't get my head around it at all. 
   
  Passing the first day of the week around is no problem -- I just can't seem
  to get Access to group by it. I've looked at CreateGroupLevel, but I don't
  see how that can help. 
   
  I tried adding a DatePart expression to the Detail section and using the
  OpenArgs property to pass the first day of the week, and while the
  expression works, I can't group by it -- it's a calculated control. I don't
  want the users manipulating the underlying query either. They choose the
  first day of the week from a simple form and the rest needs to happen behind
  the scenes. 
   
  Any suggestions? 
   
  Susan H. 



From DMcAfee at haascnc.com  Wed Apr 21 15:13:26 2004
From: DMcAfee at haascnc.com (David McAfee)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 13:13:26 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
Message-ID: <657FB70438B7D311AF320090279C18010614418F@EXCHMAIL>

Pinnacle's SQL Server Professional, February 2002 (Volume 8, Number 2), 
"Known Problems with IN/NOT IN()"
 
This may only apply to SQL Server and not Access, but it has bit me in 
the a$$ before. The use of IN and NOT IN for a value list is still ok to 
use, but not for subqueries.
 
I too, used it many times in Access, but then again, I also used the MAX 
statement through the QBE window, assuming that I was using it 
correctly, only to find out as I started using QA that I had been 
writing Max Statements incorrectly...but I digress...:S
 
If you get your hands on that issue, also check out "The Rogue Delete":
 
BEGIN TRANSACTION T1
SELECT COUNT (*) FROM TitleAuthor
DELETE TitleAuthor WHERE au_id IN ( SELECT au_id FROM Publishers)
SELECT COUNT (*) FROM TitleAuthor
ROLLBACK T1
 
This deletes all rows in the TitleAuthor table, even though there is no 
au_id on the Publishers table :)
 
Christopher Hawkins wrote:
 
>A known issue?  No kidding.  I've been using the "IN (SELECT..."
>statement for years and have never had a problem.
>
>Do you know of any MSDN or similar documentation of this issue?
>
>-Christopher-


From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Apr 21 16:30:30 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 17:30:30 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <655792989.20040421101920@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20040421213028.MYDD1832.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

The missing selection of a First-Day-Of-Week on the form could be handled by
setting a default value.

For myself, I would probably apply the suggestion of Stuart, but I realize
that static functions may fly above the head of the average user.

========The static function isn't necessary -- it works fine without it. The
open form first problem is resolved by setting a default for the report.
That's what I plan to do. 

Susan H. 



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Apr 21 17:16:47 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 15:16:47 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312738@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Susan, 

LOL
*Access* flies over the head of the average user!  Why should static
functions make sense to them?

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 1:31 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


The missing selection of a First-Day-Of-Week on the form could be
handled by setting a default value.

For myself, I would probably apply the suggestion of Stuart, but I
realize that static functions may fly above the head of the average
user.

========The static function isn't necessary -- it works fine without it.
The open form first problem is resolved by setting a default for the
report. That's what I plan to do. 

Susan H. 

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Apr 21 18:57:29 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 19:57:29 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312738@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <20040421235727.EEVD1714.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

My aim, as always is to make things work with the most normal tools I can --
because mostly, I write to the average user. Now, I can use other stuff as
long as I'm very explicit. Why? Because it's a personal challenge I guess.
;)   

Susan H. 

Susan, 

LOL
*Access* flies over the head of the average user!  Why should static
functions make sense to them?

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 1:31 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


The missing selection of a First-Day-Of-Week on the form could be
handled by setting a default value.

For myself, I would probably apply the suggestion of Stuart, but I
realize that static functions may fly above the head of the average
user.

========The static function isn't necessary -- it works fine without it.
The open form first problem is resolved by setting a default for the
report. That's what I plan to do. 

Susan H. 

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Wed Apr 21 21:10:53 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 19:10:53 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Hey John Colby Application Checklist
Message-ID: <000a01c4280f$0db9d700$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

In San Diego at the conference you spoke about some kind of checklist you
were working on to set options for the application.

 

 

Did that go anywhere? Is it publicly available?

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

 



From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr 22 01:27:18 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 08:27:18 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040421235727.EEVD1714.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <20040421235727.EEVD1714.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <34826778.20040422082718@cactus.dk>

Hi Susan

Personal challenge? You are on a mission!

/gustav

> My aim, as always is to make things work with the most normal tools I can --
> because mostly, I write to the average user. Now, I can use other stuff as
> long as I'm very explicit. Why? Because it's a personal challenge I guess.
> ;)   

> Susan H. 

> Susan, 

> LOL
> *Access* flies over the head of the average user!  Why should static
> functions make sense to them?

> Charlotte Foust

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 1:31 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


> The missing selection of a First-Day-Of-Week on the form could be
> handled by setting a default value.

> For myself, I would probably apply the suggestion of Stuart, but I
> realize that static functions may fly above the head of the average
> user.

> ========The static function isn't necessary -- it works fine without it.
> The open form first problem is resolved by setting a default for the
> report. That's what I plan to do. 

> Susan H. 



From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr 22 02:00:18 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 09:00:18 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
In-Reply-To: <657FB70438B7D311AF320090279C18010614418F@EXCHMAIL>
References: <657FB70438B7D311AF320090279C18010614418F@EXCHMAIL>
Message-ID: <322806795.20040422090018@cactus.dk>

Hi David

> Pinnacle's SQL Server Professional, February 2002 (Volume 8, Number 2),
> "Known Problems with IN/NOT IN()"

So which are those known problems?
Susan described one only.
 
> This may only apply to SQL Server and not Access, but it has bit me in 
> the a$$ before. The use of IN and NOT IN for a value list is still ok to 
> use, but not for subqueries.
 
> I too, used it many times in Access, but then again, I also used the MAX 
> statement through the QBE window, assuming that I was using it 
> correctly, only to find out as I started using QA that I had been 
> writing Max Statements incorrectly...but I digress...:S

How is MAX used incorrectly? I've never met any problems with MAX (not
that I know of).
 
> If you get your hands on that issue, also check out "The Rogue Delete":
 
> BEGIN TRANSACTION T1
> SELECT COUNT (*) FROM TitleAuthor
> DELETE TitleAuthor WHERE au_id IN ( SELECT au_id FROM Publishers)
> SELECT COUNT (*) FROM TitleAuthor
> ROLLBACK T1
 
> This deletes all rows in the TitleAuthor table, even though there is no 
> au_id on the Publishers table :)

I can't recognize this; it behaves very politely.
The syntax doesn't work in Jet SQL, but this does:

  DELETE FROM
    TitleAuthor
  WHERE
    au_id IN (SELECT au_id FROM Publishers)

and it deletes zero records if Publishers is empty. If au_id doesn't
exist as a field, Access asks for it as a parameter.
So this is exactly as expected.

Can you provide another example? Or are you talking about another SQL
engine?

/gustav
 
> Christopher Hawkins wrote:
 
>>A known issue?  No kidding.  I've been using the "IN (SELECT..."
>>statement for years and have never had a problem.
>>
>>Do you know of any MSDN or similar documentation of this issue?
>>
>>-Christopher-



From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Thu Apr 22 07:11:27 2004
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 14:11:27 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] VB6 DLL Help Required
Message-ID: <19983744.1082635887124.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>

To all,
 
Been playing with creating my own DLL?s today using Visual Basic 6 and I eventually created one to send an email using the vbSendMail.dll which works a treat.  But now I want to use the withevents part of the vbSendMail.dll which will return the following:
 
            Email Sent Ok 
            Email Failed
            Email Staus
 
Can I put a form inside a dll or do I somehow have to return the appropriate message to the calling application, if so how will I do this, has anyone any ideas on this?
 
Paul Hartland
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr 22 07:32:42 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 08:32:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] VB6 DLL Help Required
In-Reply-To: <19983744.1082635887124.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPCEOKHFAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

You must use a class to host withevents.  Dim WithEvents the variable that
references the dll.  Then create the event stubs in the class.  That's the
gist of it.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 8:11 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] VB6 DLL Help Required


To all,

Been playing with creating my own DLL?s today using Visual Basic 6 and I
eventually created one to send an email using the vbSendMail.dll which works
a treat.  But now I want to use the withevents part of the vbSendMail.dll
which will return the following:

            Email Sent Ok
            Email Failed
            Email Staus

Can I put a form inside a dll or do I somehow have to return the appropriate
message to the calling application, if so how will I do this, has anyone any
ideas on this?

Paul Hartland
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Apr 22 08:15:14 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 09:15:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB95@nnse14.nns.com>

We have a simple paper form that is used for data collection.  For purposes
of simplistic data entry, I would like to create an Access form that mimics
the actual paper form.  The underlying tables, however, are fully normalized
including dependencies.  The dependent fields are scattered throughout the
existing paper form.  Can I create a single bound form (subforms are ok)
under these circumstances?  If so, how?  The examples that I have run across
usually use multiple forms and pass the foreign keys.

I can do this going unbound, but I'd rather not.



Mark


From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Apr 22 08:29:36 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 09:29:36 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB96@nnse14.nns.com>

We have a simple paper form that is used for data collection.  For purposes
of simplistic data entry, I would like to create an Access form that mimics
the actual paper form.  The underlying tables, however, are fully normalized
including dependencies.  The dependent fields are scattered throughout the
existing paper form.  Can I create a single bound form (subforms are ok)
under these circumstances?  If so, how?  The examples that I have run across
usually use multiple forms and pass the foreign keys.

I can do this going unbound, but I'd rather not.



Mark


From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Apr 22 08:52:21 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 06:52:21 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database
References: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB95@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <005901c42871$093dd840$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Mark:

Can  you base the form on a query which joins all of the tables?  Or would
it be too many tables.  IIRC there's some limit of the number of tables in a
query after which it's not updateable.

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 6:15 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database


> We have a simple paper form that is used for data collection.  For
purposes
> of simplistic data entry, I would like to create an Access form that
mimics
> the actual paper form.  The underlying tables, however, are fully
normalized
> including dependencies.  The dependent fields are scattered throughout the
> existing paper form.  Can I create a single bound form (subforms are ok)
> under these circumstances?  If so, how?  The examples that I have run
across
> usually use multiple forms and pass the foreign keys.
>
> I can do this going unbound, but I'd rather not.
>
>
>
> Mark
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From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Thu Apr 22 09:02:35 2004
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 09:02:35 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Prevent Duplicates
Message-ID: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D632@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>

I need a way to check if a vendor number is a duplicate entry. On the
AfterUpdate of VenNumber I placed the below code, but it produces an error
about not finding the Automation Object and gives the entry I made in the
VenNumber field. VenNumber is a text field - do I have the quotes or
parenthesis wrong?

Virginia

************************
 If Not IsNull(VenNumber) Then
    If DCount("VenNumber", "tbl_Vendor", "VenNumber = " & [VenNumber]) > 0
Then   
        MsgBox "You have entered a Vendor Number that already exists"
        VenNumber.SetFocus
        VenNumber.Undo
End If
    End If


From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Apr 22 09:13:37 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 10:13:37 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB97@nnse14.nns.com>

11 tables...maximum of 2 levels of dependencies.  But, forgive all these
newbie questions, if I use a query, how do I populate the foreign keys?



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 9:52 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database


Mark:

Can  you base the form on a query which joins all of the tables?  Or would
it be too many tables.  IIRC there's some limit of the number of tables in a
query after which it's not updateable.

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 6:15 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database


> We have a simple paper form that is used for data collection.  For
purposes
> of simplistic data entry, I would like to create an Access form that
mimics
> the actual paper form.  The underlying tables, however, are fully
normalized
> including dependencies.  The dependent fields are scattered throughout the
> existing paper form.  Can I create a single bound form (subforms are ok)
> under these circumstances?  If so, how?  The examples that I have run
across
> usually use multiple forms and pass the foreign keys.
>
> I can do this going unbound, but I'd rather not.
>
>
>
> Mark
> -- 
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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Thu Apr 22 09:27:30 2004
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 16:27:30 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] Prevent Duplicates
Message-ID: <13468022.1082644050810.JavaMail.www@wwinf3002>

Virginia,
I think as your processing this on the AfterUpdate event you need to change the line to read
If DCount("VenNumber", "tbl_Vendor", "VenNumber = " & [VenNumber]) > 1
Paul





Message date : Apr 22 2004, 03:07 PM
>From : "Hollis,Virginia" 
To : "'accessD at databaseadvisors.com'" 
Copy to : 
Subject : [AccessD] Prevent Duplicates
I need a way to check if a vendor number is a duplicate entry. On the
AfterUpdate of VenNumber I placed the below code, but it produces an error
about not finding the Automation Object and gives the entry I made in the
VenNumber field. VenNumber is a text field - do I have the quotes or
parenthesis wrong?

Virginia

************************
If Not IsNull(VenNumber) Then
If DCount("VenNumber", "tbl_Vendor", "VenNumber = " & [VenNumber]) > 0
Then 
MsgBox "You have entered a Vendor Number that already exists"
VenNumber.SetFocus
VenNumber.Undo
End If
End If
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 22 09:38:19 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 10:38:19 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database
In-Reply-To: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB97@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <20040422143818.OLKR1714.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

You add them to the query, even though you don't need them in the form --
and 11 tables can still be updateable -- depends on the relationships
between the tables. 

Susan H. 

11 tables...maximum of 2 levels of dependencies.  But, forgive all these
newbie questions, if I use a query, how do I populate the foreign keys?



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 22 09:39:08 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 10:39:08 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <34826778.20040422082718@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20040422143907.OLYV1714.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Personal challenges can be very distracting. :) 

Susan H. 

Hi Susan

Personal challenge? You are on a mission!

/gustav




From Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com  Thu Apr 22 09:46:23 2004
From: Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com (Pickering, Stephen)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 09:46:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Prevent Duplicates
Message-ID: <CF0EA31794DDD611ADDC00065B88640C039A2F91@s98027.psd.caremark.int>

Virginia,

I would set this in the properties of the field, not validate on a form,
unless I had some compelling reason for allowing duplicates via some other
process.

If you still want to validate in the form, I would put your code in the
BeforeUpdate event, not the AfterUpdate, and yes, you need the quotes.

I would also change my control names from being the same as the field
names.  "ctlVenNumber" instead of "VenNumber" for the text box, for
example.

************************
 If Not IsNull(Me.ctlVenNumber) Then
    If DCount("VenNumber", "tbl_Vendor", "VenNumber = '" & me.ctlVenNumber
& "'" & ) > 0 Then   
    	MsgBox "You have entered a Vendor Number that already exists"
      Me.ctlVenNumber.SetFocus
      Cancel = True
    End If
 End If
************************

HTH,

Steve

-----Virginia Hollis' Original Message-----

I need a way to check if a vendor number is a duplicate entry. On the
AfterUpdate of VenNumber I placed the below code, but it produces an error
about not finding the Automation Object and gives the entry I made in the
VenNumber field. VenNumber is a text field - do I have the quotes or
parenthesis wrong?

Virginia

************************
 If Not IsNull(VenNumber) Then
    If DCount("VenNumber", "tbl_Vendor", "VenNumber = " & [VenNumber]) > 0
Then   
        MsgBox "You have entered a Vendor Number that already exists"
        VenNumber.SetFocus
        VenNumber.Undo
End If
    End If
-- 


From Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com  Thu Apr 22 09:49:46 2004
From: Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com (Pickering, Stephen)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 09:49:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Prevent Duplicates
Message-ID: <CF0EA31794DDD611ADDC00065B88640C039A2F92@s98027.psd.caremark.int>

Oops, just read Paul's post.  Missed the number.  Paul is right on.

************************
 If Not IsNull(Me.ctlVenNumber) Then
    If DCount("VenNumber", "tbl_Vendor", "VenNumber = '" & me.ctlVenNumber
& "'" & ) > 1 Then   
    	MsgBox "You have entered a Vendor Number that already exists"
      Me.ctlVenNumber.SetFocus
      Cancel = True
    End If
 End If
************************

Steve

-----Stephen Pickering's Original Message-----

Virginia,

I would set this in the properties of the field, not validate on a form,
unless I had some compelling reason for allowing duplicates via some other
process.

If you still want to validate in the form, I would put your code in the
BeforeUpdate event, not the AfterUpdate, and yes, you need the quotes.

I would also change my control names from being the same as the field
names.  "ctlVenNumber" instead of "VenNumber" for the text box, for
example.

************************
 If Not IsNull(Me.ctlVenNumber) Then
    If DCount("VenNumber", "tbl_Vendor", "VenNumber = '" & me.ctlVenNumber
& "'" & ) > 0 Then   
    	MsgBox "You have entered a Vendor Number that already exists"
      Me.ctlVenNumber.SetFocus
      Cancel = True
    End If
 End If
************************

HTH,

Steve

-----Virginia Hollis' Original Message-----

I need a way to check if a vendor number is a duplicate entry. On the
AfterUpdate of VenNumber I placed the below code, but it produces an error
about not finding the Automation Object and gives the entry I made in the
VenNumber field. VenNumber is a text field - do I have the quotes or
parenthesis wrong?

Virginia

************************
 If Not IsNull(VenNumber) Then
    If DCount("VenNumber", "tbl_Vendor", "VenNumber = " & [VenNumber]) > 0
Then   
        MsgBox "You have entered a Vendor Number that already exists"
        VenNumber.SetFocus
        VenNumber.Undo
End If
    End If
-- 


From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Thu Apr 22 09:56:27 2004
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 16:56:27 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] Prevent Duplicates
Message-ID: <31798765.1082645787203.JavaMail.www@wwinf3002>

oh well, we got there between us in the end....





Message date : Apr 22 2004, 03:51 PM
>From : "Pickering, Stephen" 
To : "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
Copy to : 
Subject : RE: [AccessD] Prevent Duplicates
Oops, just read Paul's post. Missed the number. Paul is right on.

************************
If Not IsNull(Me.ctlVenNumber) Then
If DCount("VenNumber", "tbl_Vendor", "VenNumber = '" & me.ctlVenNumber
& "'" & ) > 1 Then 
MsgBox "You have entered a Vendor Number that already exists"
Me.ctlVenNumber.SetFocus
Cancel = True
End If
End If
************************

Steve

-----Stephen Pickering's Original Message-----

Virginia,

I would set this in the properties of the field, not validate on a form,
unless I had some compelling reason for allowing duplicates via some other
process.

If you still want to validate in the form, I would put your code in the
BeforeUpdate event, not the AfterUpdate, and yes, you need the quotes.

I would also change my control names from being the same as the field
names. "ctlVenNumber" instead of "VenNumber" for the text box, for
example.

************************
If Not IsNull(Me.ctlVenNumber) Then
If DCount("VenNumber", "tbl_Vendor", "VenNumber = '" & me.ctlVenNumber
& "'" & ) > 0 Then 
MsgBox "You have entered a Vendor Number that already exists"
Me.ctlVenNumber.SetFocus
Cancel = True
End If
End If
************************

HTH,

Steve

-----Virginia Hollis' Original Message-----

I need a way to check if a vendor number is a duplicate entry. On the
AfterUpdate of VenNumber I placed the below code, but it produces an error
about not finding the Automation Object and gives the entry I made in the
VenNumber field. VenNumber is a text field - do I have the quotes or
parenthesis wrong?

Virginia

************************
If Not IsNull(VenNumber) Then
If DCount("VenNumber", "tbl_Vendor", "VenNumber = " & [VenNumber]) > 0
Then 
MsgBox "You have entered a Vendor Number that already exists"
VenNumber.SetFocus
VenNumber.Undo
End If
End If
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Apr 22 10:06:59 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 08:06:59 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Prevent Duplicates
References: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D632@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <007701c4287b$763527a0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Virginia:

Does VenNumber contain a valid numeric value at that point?

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hollis,Virginia" <HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com>
To: <accessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 7:02 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Prevent Duplicates


> I need a way to check if a vendor number is a duplicate entry. On the
> AfterUpdate of VenNumber I placed the below code, but it produces an error
> about not finding the Automation Object and gives the entry I made in the
> VenNumber field. VenNumber is a text field - do I have the quotes or
> parenthesis wrong?
>
> Virginia
>
> ************************
>  If Not IsNull(VenNumber) Then
>     If DCount("VenNumber", "tbl_Vendor", "VenNumber = " & [VenNumber]) > 0
> Then
>         MsgBox "You have entered a Vendor Number that already exists"
>         VenNumber.SetFocus
>         VenNumber.Undo
> End If
>     End If
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From serbach at new.rr.com  Thu Apr 22 10:06:18 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 10:06:18 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Shell 'discoveries'
Message-ID: <20040422100618.1373059489.serbach@new.rr.com>

Dear Group,

In debugging the custom EDI application I'm writing for a client of mine, I "discovered" a thing or two about using the Shell command to run a DOS batch file.

The purpose of using the DOS batch file is to start an FTP session and upload a bunch of files to the EDI mailbox. Then, when the batch file is finished, move the files that were uploaded into an archive folder on the server.

I had tested the batch file from a command prompt and it works just dandy. The EDI documents show up as having been uploaded successfully. However when I used the Shell command in my application I wouldn't see any document names uploaded. Then I'd get the annoying e-mail the next day from the EDI service provider saying that the expected documents weren't received.

I finally figured out the problem: Access doesn't wait for the batch file to finish. The Shell command just launches the external program, whatever it is, and goes on to the next task. In my case it was moving the EDI documents into an archive folder. Well, Access whisked those files out of the FTP folder so fast that by the time the FTP login was complete (user name, password, and account name) the files were no longer available for uploading. The FTP session didn't fail, as such, there just wasn't anything to send.

So, I added a MsgBox asking the user to verify that the DOS session had ended before going on to archive the EDI files. Problem solved.

Sorry if this is tediously obvious, but I haven't ever run a batch file from Access and I have nobody to bounce this stuff off of (nobody off of whom to bounce this stuff?).

Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Apr 22 10:09:25 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 08:09:25 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database
References: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB97@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <008501c4287b$cd27e9d0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Mark:

I think the FKs need to be inserted through code.  At least that's how I
always did it.

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 7:13 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database


> 11 tables...maximum of 2 levels of dependencies.  But, forgive all these
> newbie questions, if I use a query, how do I populate the foreign keys?
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 9:52 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database
>
>
> Mark:
>
> Can  you base the form on a query which joins all of the tables?  Or would
> it be too many tables.  IIRC there's some limit of the number of tables in
a
> query after which it's not updateable.
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News)" <Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com>
> To: "'[AccessD]'" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 6:15 AM
> Subject: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database
>
>
> > We have a simple paper form that is used for data collection.  For
> purposes
> > of simplistic data entry, I would like to create an Access form that
> mimics
> > the actual paper form.  The underlying tables, however, are fully
> normalized
> > including dependencies.  The dependent fields are scattered throughout
the
> > existing paper form.  Can I create a single bound form (subforms are ok)
> > under these circumstances?  If so, how?  The examples that I have run
> across
> > usually use multiple forms and pass the foreign keys.
> >
> > I can do this going unbound, but I'd rather not.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mark
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From demulling at centurytel.net  Thu Apr 22 10:51:51 2004
From: demulling at centurytel.net (Demulling Family)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 10:51:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Shell 'discoveries'
In-Reply-To: <20040422100618.1373059489.serbach@new.rr.com>
References: <20040422100618.1373059489.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <4087EA17.9080006@centurytel.net>

Steven W. Erbach wrote:

>Dear Group,
>
>In debugging the custom EDI application I'm writing for a client of mine, I "discovered" a thing or two about using the Shell command to run a DOS batch file.
>
>The purpose of using the DOS batch file is to start an FTP session and upload a bunch of files to the EDI mailbox. Then, when the batch file is finished, move the files that were uploaded into an archive folder on the server.
>
>I had tested the batch file from a command prompt and it works just dandy. The EDI documents show up as having been uploaded successfully. However when I used the Shell command in my application I wouldn't see any document names uploaded. Then I'd get the annoying e-mail the next day from the EDI service provider saying that the expected documents weren't received.
>
>I finally figured out the problem: Access doesn't wait for the batch file to finish. The Shell command just launches the external program, whatever it is, and goes on to the next task. In my case it was moving the EDI documents into an archive folder. Well, Access whisked those files out of the FTP folder so fast that by the time the FTP login was complete (user name, password, and account name) the files were no longer available for uploading. The FTP session didn't fail, as such, there just wasn't anything to send.
>
>So, I added a MsgBox asking the user to verify that the DOS session had ended before going on to archive the EDI files. Problem solved.
>
>Sorry if this is tediously obvious, but I haven't ever run a batch file from Access and I have nobody to bounce this stuff off of (nobody off of whom to bounce this stuff?).
>
>Regards,
> 
>Steve Erbach
>Scientific Marketing
>Neenah, WI
>920-969-0504
> 
>"Congress is as trustworthy with money as a crack addict who is experimenting with heroin." - Dave Barry
> 
>"Giving money and power to the government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys." - P. J. O'Rourke
> 
>"Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for." - Will Rogers
> 
>"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly American criminal class except Congress." - Mark Twain
>
>  
>
Steve,

On Dev's site there is code for a Shell Wait function.  You can you this 
to have access wait until the ftping is done.  I would include some code 
but am at home today helping my wife cook for my daugther's festival of 
culture and grandparent's night at school.



From Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com  Thu Apr 22 10:52:19 2004
From: Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com (Pickering, Stephen)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 10:52:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Prevent Duplicates
Message-ID: <CF0EA31794DDD611ADDC00065B88640C039A2F93@s98027.psd.caremark.int>

Here's to putting our heads together!

:^)

Steve

-----Paul Hartland's Original Message-----

oh well, we got there between us in the end....


From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Apr 22 10:56:33 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 11:56:33 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB98@nnse14.nns.com>

Susan,

OK, I created the query... with all the fields.  Next, I tried to do a
simple autoform to see if it would work...NO controls showed up on the
form:(  In design view the controls exist, but in form view they do not.
I'm open for suggestions as to why...



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 10:38 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database


You add them to the query, even though you don't need them in the form --
and 11 tables can still be updateable -- depends on the relationships
between the tables. 

Susan H. 

11 tables...maximum of 2 levels of dependencies.  But, forgive all these
newbie questions, if I use a query, how do I populate the foreign keys?

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From Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com  Thu Apr 22 11:23:05 2004
From: Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com (Pickering, Stephen)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 11:23:05 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database
Message-ID: <CF0EA31794DDD611ADDC00065B88640C039A2F94@s98027.psd.caremark.int>

PMFJI.

Is the query updateable?  That's the first thing I'd check.  It should be
updateable as long as you include the Primary Key of each table in the
query.

Steve

-----Mark S. Mitsules' Original Message-----

Susan,

OK, I created the query... with all the fields.  Next, I tried to do a
simple autoform to see if it would work...NO controls showed up on the
form:(  In design view the controls exist, but in form view they do not.
I'm open for suggestions as to why...



Mark


From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 22 11:21:52 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 12:21:52 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database
In-Reply-To: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB98@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <20040422162151.WAFQ1728.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Check out the query's datasheet -- is there a new row? If not, it isn't an
updateable setup. 

Susan H. 

Susan,

OK, I created the query... with all the fields.  Next, I tried to do a
simple autoform to see if it would work...NO controls showed up on the
form:(  In design view the controls exist, but in form view they do not.
I'm open for suggestions as to why...



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 10:38 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database


You add them to the query, even though you don't need them in the form --
and 11 tables can still be updateable -- depends on the relationships
between the tables. 

Susan H. 

11 tables...maximum of 2 levels of dependencies.  But, forgive all these
newbie questions, if I use a query, how do I populate the foreign keys?

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr 22 11:24:07 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 18:24:07 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Shell 'discoveries'
In-Reply-To: <20040422100618.1373059489.serbach@new.rr.com>
References: <20040422100618.1373059489.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <9336635348.20040422182407@cactus.dk>

Hi Steven

Several will for sure post you the code variants for "ShellAndWait",
"ShellWait" etc. which will solve your immediate problem.

However, as this sounds as a serious application, I would strongly
recommend you to spend the small money for a licens to 3D-FTP.

This is an excellent multi-threaded FTP client which can be fully
automated and controlled from within your app. I used it for a client
who regularly uploads over 1000 files for a web site and it has never
failed. In addition, the user (operator) has a nice status window
visually indicating progress of the upload.

I have no "ready-to-run" code as this will be very much individual,
but if you wish, I can rip off the essential procedures which I'm sure
you (as a skilled programmer) will be able to modify as to your needs.

/gustav


> Dear Group,

> In debugging the custom EDI application I'm writing for a client of mine, I "discovered" a thing or two about using the Shell command to run a DOS batch file.

> The purpose of using the DOS batch file is to start an FTP session and upload a bunch of files to the EDI mailbox. Then, when the batch file is finished, move the files that were uploaded into an
> archive folder on the server.

> I had tested the batch file from a command prompt and it works just dandy. The EDI documents show up as having been uploaded successfully. However when I used the Shell command in my application I
> wouldn't see any document names uploaded. Then I'd get the annoying e-mail the next day from the EDI service provider saying that the expected documents weren't received.

> I finally figured out the problem: Access doesn't wait for the batch file to finish. The Shell command just launches the external program, whatever it is, and goes on to the next task. In my case
> it was moving the EDI documents into an archive folder. Well, Access whisked those files out of the FTP folder so fast that by the time the FTP login was complete (user name, password, and account
> name) the files were no longer available for uploading. The FTP session didn't fail, as such, there just wasn't anything to send.

> So, I added a MsgBox asking the user to verify that the DOS session had ended before going on to archive the EDI files. Problem solved.

> Sorry if this is tediously obvious, but I haven't ever run a batch file from Access and I have nobody to bounce this stuff off of (nobody off of whom to bounce this stuff?).



From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Apr 22 11:29:55 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 17:29:55 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Shell 'discoveries'
In-Reply-To: <20040422100618.1373059489.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <001501c42887$0b9b2730$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

A suggestion Steven. How about creating a file before you Shell, and making
the last line of the batch file delete the file. Then you can Shell followed
by a Do While which checks if the file exists and comes out when it doesn't.
You'd also need a DoEvents inside the loop so it lets the other processing
get a look in. This way you wouldn't need to ask the user if the process had
finished.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Steven W. Erbach
> Sent: 22 April 2004 16:06
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Shell 'discoveries'
> 
> 
> Dear Group,
> 
> In debugging the custom EDI application I'm writing for a 
> client of mine, I "discovered" a thing or two about using the 
> Shell command to run a DOS batch file.
> 
> The purpose of using the DOS batch file is to start an FTP 
> session and upload a bunch of files to the EDI mailbox. Then, 
> when the batch file is finished, move the files that were 
> uploaded into an archive folder on the server.
> 
> I had tested the batch file from a command prompt and it 
> works just dandy. The EDI documents show up as having been 
> uploaded successfully. However when I used the Shell command 
> in my application I wouldn't see any document names uploaded. 
> Then I'd get the annoying e-mail the next day from the EDI 
> service provider saying that the expected documents weren't received.
> 
> I finally figured out the problem: Access doesn't wait for 
> the batch file to finish. The Shell command just launches the 
> external program, whatever it is, and goes on to the next 
> task. In my case it was moving the EDI documents into an 
> archive folder. Well, Access whisked those files out of the 
> FTP folder so fast that by the time the FTP login was 
> complete (user name, password, and account name) the files 
> were no longer available for uploading. The FTP session 
> didn't fail, as such, there just wasn't anything to send.
> 
> So, I added a MsgBox asking the user to verify that the DOS 
> session had ended before going on to archive the EDI files. 
> Problem solved.
> 
> Sorry if this is tediously obvious, but I haven't ever run a 
> batch file from Access and I have nobody to bounce this stuff 
> off of (nobody off of whom to bounce this stuff?).
> 
> Regards,
>  
> Steve Erbach
> Scientific Marketing
> Neenah, WI
> 920-969-0504
>  
> "Congress is as trustworthy with money as a crack addict who 
> is experimenting with heroin." - Dave Barry
>  
> "Giving money and power to the government is like giving 
> whiskey and car keys to teenage boys." - P. J. O'Rourke
>  
> "Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're 
> paying for." - Will Rogers
>  
> "It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there 
> is no distinctly American criminal class except Congress." - 
> Mark Twain
> 
> -- 
> _______________________________________________
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd
> Website: 
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> 



From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Apr 22 11:38:26 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 12:38:26 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB9A@nnse14.nns.com>

Nope it's not updateable...  Anyone want to look at a screenshot of the
relationships to see if they could tell why?  I guess what I'm asking is,
what is the limiting factor of a recordset being updatable or not?  I'm
guessing that it has to do with the 2 levels of dependency.  Could that be
it?



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 12:22 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database


Check out the query's datasheet -- is there a new row? If not, it isn't an
updateable setup. 

Susan H. 

Susan,

OK, I created the query... with all the fields.  Next, I tried to do a
simple autoform to see if it would work...NO controls showed up on the
form:(  In design view the controls exist, but in form view they do not.
I'm open for suggestions as to why...



Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 10:38 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database


You add them to the query, even though you don't need them in the form --
and 11 tables can still be updateable -- depends on the relationships
between the tables. 

Susan H. 

11 tables...maximum of 2 levels of dependencies.  But, forgive all these
newbie questions, if I use a query, how do I populate the foreign keys?

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr 22 11:39:08 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 18:39:08 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Shell 'discoveries'
In-Reply-To: <20040422100618.1373059489.serbach@new.rr.com>
References: <20040422100618.1373059489.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <9437536414.20040422183908@cactus.dk>

Hi Steven

Here's an example:

<code>

Public Function ShellExecute( _
  ByVal strPathname As String, _
  Optional lngAppWinStyle As Long = vbHide) _
  As Boolean

' Start other application and wait for it to finish.

' lngAppWinStyle:
'
' vbHide              0
' vbNormalFocus       1
' vbMinimizedFocus    2
' vbMaximizedFocus    3
' vbNormalNoFocus     4
' vbMinimizedNoFocus  6
  
  Const cbInheritHandles  As Long = 1
  Dim proc      As PROCESS_INFORMATION
  Dim Start     As STARTUPINFO
  Dim lngReturn As Long
  
  On Error GoTo Err_ShellExecute
  
  ' Initialize the STARTUPINFO structure:
  With Start
    .cb = Len(Start)
    .dwFlags = STARTF_USESHOWWINDOW
    .wShowWindow = lngAppWinStyle
  End With
  
  ' Load the shelled application.
  lngReturn = CreateProcessA(0, strPathname, 0, 0, cbInheritHandles, NORMAL_PRIORITY_CLASS, 0, 0, Start, proc)
  ' Wait for the shelled application to finish.
  lngReturn = WaitForSingleObject(proc.hProcess, INFINITE)
  With proc
    lngReturn = WaitForSingleObject(.hProcess, INFINITE)
    ' Close both Process and Thread to prevent memory leak.
    lngReturn = CloseHandle(.hProcess) And CloseHandle(.hThread)
  End With
  
  ShellExecute = True
  
Exit_ShellExecute:
  Exit Function

Err_ShellExecute:
  MsgBox "Shell Error: " & Err.Number & ". " & Err.Description, vbCritical, Err.Source
  Resume Exit_ShellExecute

End Function

</code>

Watch for line breaks.

/gustav



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 22 11:53:51 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 12:53:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database
In-Reply-To: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB9A@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <20040422165350.YZPR1778.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Mark, you email address isn't showin gup in the message header. Send me a
private at ssharkins at bellsouth.net and I'll send you a copy of an article I
wrote about this. 

Susan H. 

Nope it's not updateable...  Anyone want to look at a screenshot of the
relationships to see if they could tell why?  I guess what I'm asking is,
what is the limiting factor of a recordset being updatable or not?  I'm
guessing that it has to do with the 2 levels of dependency.  Could that be
it?





From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Apr 22 11:54:23 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 12:54:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Shell 'discoveries'
In-Reply-To: <20040422100618.1373059489.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKMENCJAAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Steve,

  Besides the ShellWait function already mentioned, I would suggest a little
more control over the FTP process. Gustav mentioned a 3rd party control, but
Dev's site has a FTP class you can use for free.  Might want to go the
commercial route though if you want updates and support options.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Steven W.
Erbach
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 11:06 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Shell 'discoveries'


Dear Group,

In debugging the custom EDI application I'm writing for a client of mine, I
"discovered" a thing or two about using the Shell command to run a DOS batch
file.

The purpose of using the DOS batch file is to start an FTP session and
upload a bunch of files to the EDI mailbox. Then, when the batch file is
finished, move the files that were uploaded into an archive folder on the
server.

I had tested the batch file from a command prompt and it works just dandy.
The EDI documents show up as having been uploaded successfully. However when
I used the Shell command in my application I wouldn't see any document names
uploaded. Then I'd get the annoying e-mail the next day from the EDI service
provider saying that the expected documents weren't received.

I finally figured out the problem: Access doesn't wait for the batch file to
finish. The Shell command just launches the external program, whatever it
is, and goes on to the next task. In my case it was moving the EDI documents
into an archive folder. Well, Access whisked those files out of the FTP
folder so fast that by the time the FTP login was complete (user name,
password, and account name) the files were no longer available for
uploading. The FTP session didn't fail, as such, there just wasn't anything
to send.

So, I added a MsgBox asking the user to verify that the DOS session had
ended before going on to archive the EDI files. Problem solved.

Sorry if this is tediously obvious, but I haven't ever run a batch file from
Access and I have nobody to bounce this stuff off of (nobody off of whom to
bounce this stuff?).

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504

"Congress is as trustworthy with money as a crack addict who is
experimenting with heroin." - Dave Barry

"Giving money and power to the government is like giving whiskey and car
keys to teenage boys." - P. J. O'Rourke

"Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for." - Will
Rogers

"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly
American criminal class except Congress." - Mark Twain

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From Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com  Thu Apr 22 12:22:03 2004
From: Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com (Pickering, Stephen)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 12:22:03 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database
Message-ID: <CF0EA31794DDD611ADDC00065B88640C039A2F97@s98027.psd.caremark.int>

Mark,

Check to make sure that all of the Primary Keys for all of the tables are
included in the SELECT clause.

Steve

-----Mark S. Mitsules' Original Message-----

Nope it's not updateable...  Anyone want to look at a screenshot of the
relationships to see if they could tell why?  I guess what I'm asking is,
what is the limiting factor of a recordset being updatable or not?  I'm
guessing that it has to do with the 2 levels of dependency.  Could that be
it?



Mark


From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Apr 22 12:39:01 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 13:39:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBB9B@nnse14.nns.com>

The light came on!  I started from scratch, building the query again, table
by table.  After each addition I checked the "updateable-ness";)  The
problem was caused by a single table that I SHOULD have added three times,
but hadn't.  It was a personnel table whose PK was used as a FK 3 times in
another table.  Access had automatically added the defined relationships.  I
needed to delete 2 of the 3 and add the table again to the query 2 more
times.  As soon as I fixed that oversight, the query worked.  Now I just
need to get a working form from all that.

Thanks,

Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Pickering, Stephen [mailto:Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 1:22 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Data Input - Normalized Database


Mark,

Check to make sure that all of the Primary Keys for all of the tables are
included in the SELECT clause.

Steve

-----Mark S. Mitsules' Original Message-----

Nope it's not updateable...  Anyone want to look at a screenshot of the
relationships to see if they could tell why?  I guess what I'm asking is,
what is the limiting factor of a recordset being updatable or not?  I'm
guessing that it has to do with the 2 levels of dependency.  Could that be
it?



Mark
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From pedro at plex.nl  Thu Apr 22 14:09:12 2004
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 21:09:12 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase
Message-ID: <006101c4289e$fa188030$f2c581d5@pedro>

Hello Group,

i have a code (thanks to Brett Barabash and Mark A Matte) that sets all characters in all tables to Lowercase.

What i also would like to see is each character at the beginning of a word (each word that is separated by a space) is set to Uppercase in all Tables by just one code.
Is this possible. Who can help me with this?

TIA

Pedro Janssen


From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Thu Apr 22 14:34:17 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 14:34:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227B06@main2.marlow.com>

StrConv("this is a test",vbProperCase)


results in:


This Is A Test

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 2:09 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase


Hello Group,

i have a code (thanks to Brett Barabash and Mark A Matte) that sets all
characters in all tables to Lowercase.

What i also would like to see is each character at the beginning of a word
(each word that is separated by a space) is set to Uppercase in all Tables
by just one code.
Is this possible. Who can help me with this?

TIA

Pedro Janssen
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From Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com  Thu Apr 22 14:45:15 2004
From: Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com (Pickering, Stephen)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 14:45:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase
Message-ID: <CF0EA31794DDD611ADDC00065B88640C039A2F99@s98027.psd.caremark.int>

Pedro,

StrConv("your string here", 3)

HTH,

Steve

-----Pedro Janssen's Original Message-----

Hello Group,

i have a code (thanks to Brett Barabash and Mark A Matte) that sets all
characters in all tables to Lowercase.

What i also would like to see is each character at the beginning of a word
(each word that is separated by a space) is set to Uppercase in all Tables
by just one code.
Is this possible. Who can help me with this?

TIA

Pedro Janssen
-- 


From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 22 14:47:30 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 15:47:30 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Prevent Duplicates
References: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D632@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <001401c428a2$a5fbeba0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

Virginia

...if you truly want to prevent duplicates, I'd just create an index on the
table field set to no duplicates allowed and code for an error ...much more
certain to catch dupes, requires less code, and far less processing.

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hollis,Virginia" <HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com>
To: <accessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 10:02 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Prevent Duplicates


> I need a way to check if a vendor number is a duplicate entry. On the
> AfterUpdate of VenNumber I placed the below code, but it produces an error
> about not finding the Automation Object and gives the entry I made in the
> VenNumber field. VenNumber is a text field - do I have the quotes or
> parenthesis wrong?
>
> Virginia
>
> ************************
>  If Not IsNull(VenNumber) Then
>     If DCount("VenNumber", "tbl_Vendor", "VenNumber = " & [VenNumber]) > 0
> Then
>         MsgBox "You have entered a Vendor Number that already exists"
>         VenNumber.SetFocus
>         VenNumber.Undo
> End If
>     End If
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From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 22 15:03:08 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 16:03:08 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Shell 'discoveries'
References: <20040422100618.1373059489.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <002301c428a4$d50b9470$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...why not do the ftp from within Access using the APIs ...if you'd like I
can send you a sample mdb that's worked round the clock for years now.

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven W. Erbach" <serbach at new.rr.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 11:06 AM
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Shell 'discoveries'


> Dear Group,
>
> In debugging the custom EDI application I'm writing for a client of mine,
I "discovered" a thing or two about using the Shell command to run a DOS
batch file.
>
> The purpose of using the DOS batch file is to start an FTP session and
upload a bunch of files to the EDI mailbox. Then, when the batch file is
finished, move the files that were uploaded into an archive folder on the
server.
>
> I had tested the batch file from a command prompt and it works just dandy.
The EDI documents show up as having been uploaded successfully. However when
I used the Shell command in my application I wouldn't see any document names
uploaded. Then I'd get the annoying e-mail the next day from the EDI service
provider saying that the expected documents weren't received.
>
> I finally figured out the problem: Access doesn't wait for the batch file
to finish. The Shell command just launches the external program, whatever it
is, and goes on to the next task. In my case it was moving the EDI documents
into an archive folder. Well, Access whisked those files out of the FTP
folder so fast that by the time the FTP login was complete (user name,
password, and account name) the files were no longer available for
uploading. The FTP session didn't fail, as such, there just wasn't anything
to send.
>
> So, I added a MsgBox asking the user to verify that the DOS session had
ended before going on to archive the EDI files. Problem solved.
>
> Sorry if this is tediously obvious, but I haven't ever run a batch file
from Access and I have nobody to bounce this stuff off of (nobody off of
whom to bounce this stuff?).
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve Erbach
> Scientific Marketing
> Neenah, WI
> 920-969-0504
>
> "Congress is as trustworthy with money as a crack addict who is
experimenting with heroin." - Dave Barry
>
> "Giving money and power to the government is like giving whiskey and car
keys to teenage boys." - P. J. O'Rourke
>
> "Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for." -
Will Rogers
>
> "It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no
distinctly American criminal class except Congress." - Mark Twain
>
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From my.lists at verizon.net  Thu Apr 22 15:15:10 2004
From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 13:15:10 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
In-Reply-To: <322806795.20040422090018@cactus.dk>
References: <657FB70438B7D311AF320090279C18010614418F@EXCHMAIL>
	<322806795.20040422090018@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <408827CE.7060601@verizon.net>

Gustav,
   David quoted an article for Sql Server in which this is 100% 
reproducable.  I think he posted it here because of the initial posts of 
problems where the IN clause or rather (NOT IN) was not behaving as 
expected.  for that manner I've also seen it do this, one major 
workaround is to explicitly point the inner quiery to that of the outer 
query. that way any possible errors will be trapped

SUCH as

  DELETE FROM
    TitleAuthor
  WHERE
    au_id IN (SELECT au_id FROM Publishers WHERE Publishers.au_id=TitleAuthor.au_id)


Gustav Brock said the following on 4/22/2004 12:00 AM:

>>Pinnacle's SQL Server Professional, February 2002 (Volume 8, Number 2),
>>"Known Problems with IN/NOT IN()"
>>    
>>
>I can't recognize this; it behaves very politely.
>The syntax doesn't work in Jet SQL, but this does:
>
>  DELETE FROM
>    TitleAuthor
>  WHERE
>    au_id IN (SELECT au_id FROM Publishers)
>
>and it deletes zero records if Publishers is empty. If au_id doesn't
>exist as a field, Access asks for it as a parameter.
>So this is exactly as expected.
>
>Can you provide another example? Or are you talking about another SQL
>engine?
>
>/gustav
> 
>  
>
-- 
-Francisco




From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Thu Apr 22 15:37:37 2004
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 21:37:37 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT SQL Question
References: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D632@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <002501c428a9$a77fa140$1b02a8c0@MARTINREID>

Tried the SQL Server list with this - no luck.


Given a one to many relationship is it possible to produce this output using
an SP without the use of cursors etc??

 INPUT TABLE 1

      1000
     IT

      1000
     Databases

      1000
     VMS

      1001
     Spreadsheets

      1001
     GenStat

      1002
     Aquatic systems

      1002
     Research




INPUT TABLE 2



      1000
     Smith

      1001
     Brown

      1002
     Foster




 OUTPUT REQUIRED

      1000
     Smith
     IT, Databases,VMS

      1001
     Brown
     Spreadsheets,GenStat

      1002
     Foster
     Aquatic Systems,Research




Martin




From mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com  Thu Apr 22 16:17:03 2004
From: mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com (Mark Whittinghill)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 16:17:03 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Dual Install 97 and 2000
Message-ID: <000b01c428af$28bab8d0$2201a8c0@PASCAL>

Hi all,

  I have 2000 on my machine, and would like to add 97.  Can I just install
97 then fix the hatten.ttf problem, or do I need to uninstall 2000 first,
install 97 then reinstall 2000?

Mark Whittinghill
Symphony Information Services
763-391-7400
mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com




From pedro at plex.nl  Thu Apr 22 14:29:20 2004
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 21:29:20 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Form Opening Time
References: <s085426f.095@cbc.ca>
Message-ID: <009101c428b3$b092e350$f2c581d5@pedro>

Hello Bryan,

can you give me some information about Jet's showplan in the registry.
What does it do?
I have a form that needs about 35 sec to open, So this could be a great
help.

Pedro Janssen



----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Form Opening Time


> OOPS.
>
> A2K SP3
>
> Bryan
>
> >>> Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca 20-Apr-04 3:18:04 PM >>>
> Access 2000 on Win 2K SP4 with Jet 4, SP8
>
> Bryan Carbonnell
> bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca
>
> >>> gustav at cactus.dk 20-Apr-04 3:04:25 PM >>>
> Hi Bryan
>
> Which version, please?
>
> /gustav
>
>
> > Can anyone explain, or give a possible idea why Turning Jet's
> SHOWPLAN
> > on in the registry, will make a form open in 1/3 of the time it took
> > prior to turning it on?
>
> > It now takes about 7 seconds to open, but before it was 22-24
> secords.
>
> > Any ideas? I had turned on SHOWPLAN to try and see if any of the
> > queries were causing the slowdown in opening.
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From pedro at plex.nl  Thu Apr 22 16:54:28 2004
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 23:54:28 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase
References: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227B06@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <00b601c428b4$8ca40400$f2c581d5@pedro>

Hello Drew,

how can i use this so that it sets all characters in all tables in a
database?

Pedro Janssen




----- Original Message -----
From: <DWUTKA at marlow.com>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 9:34 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase


> StrConv("this is a test",vbProperCase)
>
>
> results in:
>
>
> This Is A Test
>
> Drew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 2:09 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase
>
>
> Hello Group,
>
> i have a code (thanks to Brett Barabash and Mark A Matte) that sets all
> characters in all tables to Lowercase.
>
> What i also would like to see is each character at the beginning of a word
> (each word that is separated by a space) is set to Uppercase in all Tables
> by just one code.
> Is this possible. Who can help me with this?
>
> TIA
>
> Pedro Janssen
> --
> _______________________________________________
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>




From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Thu Apr 22 17:07:52 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 18:07:52 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Form Opening Time
In-Reply-To: <009101c428b3$b092e350$f2c581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <408809F8.16242.17B1F2@localhost>

On 22 Apr 2004 at 21:29, Pedro Janssen wrote:

> can you give me some information about Jet's showplan in the registry.
> What does it do? I have a form that needs about 35 sec to open, So
> this could be a great help.

Pedro,

There are others that can explain it better than I can, folks like 
Paul Litwin, Ken Getz, and Mike Gunderloy. You can find Chapter 15: 
Application Optimization of  ADH2K2 at
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-
us/dnacbk02/html/odc_4009c15.asp

Watch for wrap.

Basically what it does is dumps to a plain text file how the query is 
"run" and you can look for places that the whole table is being 
looked at, or missng indexes....

My problem turned out to not be quite that difficult.

I had an A2K FE and an A97 BE. They don't play well together. :(

My load time in now down to less than 1/2 a second from 20-25 
seconds. It took me 2 days to figure that one out :(

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
I don't approve of political jokes. I've seen too many of them get 
elected.




From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Thu Apr 22 17:32:46 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 17:32:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227B08@main2.marlow.com>

How's this?

Function SetAllDataToProperCase()
Dim tbldef As TableDef
Dim strSQL As String
Dim rs As Recordset
Dim i As Long
Dim FieldCheck As Boolean
For Each tbldef In CurrentDb.TableDefs
    If Left(tbldef.Name, 4) <> "MSys" Then
        'Set a boolean to make sure we have fields to actually update
        FieldCheck = False
        strSQL = "UPDATE " & tbldef.Name & " SET "
        Set rs = CurrentDb.OpenRecordset(tbldef.Name, dbOpenTable)
        For i = 0 To rs.Fields.Count - 1
            If rs.Fields(i).Type = 10 Or rs.Fields(i).Type = 12 Then
                'we have a valid field
                FieldCheck = True
                strSQL = strSQL & "[" & rs.Fields(i).Name & "]=StrConv([" &
rs.Fields(i).Name & "],3), "
            End If
        Next i
        If FieldCheck Then
            strSQL = Left(strSQL, Len(strSQL) - 2)
            CurrentDb.Execute strSQL
        End If
    End If
Next
MsgBox "Done"
End Function

That will change ALL text data in your database (text and memo fields)

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 4:54 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase


Hello Drew,

how can i use this so that it sets all characters in all tables in a
database?

Pedro Janssen




----- Original Message -----
From: <DWUTKA at marlow.com>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 9:34 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase


> StrConv("this is a test",vbProperCase)
>
>
> results in:
>
>
> This Is A Test
>
> Drew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 2:09 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase
>
>
> Hello Group,
>
> i have a code (thanks to Brett Barabash and Mark A Matte) that sets all
> characters in all tables to Lowercase.
>
> What i also would like to see is each character at the beginning of a word
> (each word that is separated by a space) is set to Uppercase in all Tables
> by just one code.
> Is this possible. Who can help me with this?
>
> TIA
>
> Pedro Janssen
> --
> _______________________________________________
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
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> --
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>
>


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Apr 22 17:46:38 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 15:46:38 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Dual Install 97 and 2000
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8631273E@infoserver01.infostat.local>

You can install 97 after.  Rename hatten.ttf before you try it, and you
may have to reinstall 2000 afterward, retaining 97, to get the file type
associations right.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Whittinghill [mailto:mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 1:17 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Dual Install 97 and 2000


Hi all,

  I have 2000 on my machine, and would like to add 97.  Can I just
install 97 then fix the hatten.ttf problem, or do I need to uninstall
2000 first, install 97 then reinstall 2000?

Mark Whittinghill
Symphony Information Services
763-391-7400
mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com


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From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Thu Apr 22 18:22:04 2004
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 09:22:04 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Mail Merge form letters
Message-ID: <OFE83F7E30.44DB6D5B-ONCA256E7E.007FBDEE@agric.nsw.gov.au>


Hi,

I have just tried searching the archive for info and have some but could
use a few hints.

I have just written a DB which keeps track of Exhibited animals in our
state. The client needs tio be able to send licences to exhibit to each of
his customers as they apply and are accepted or rejected. I have set up a
mail merge template in word which gets data from the relevant query. Each
copy of the document will be of varying content based on wether conditions
are imposed or not.

I have never done this before and so need some advise from those who have.

How do I set this up to print a copy of the letter for every record in a
range of records? if they have 200 new approvals I need to generate a
letter for each of the approvals in a range entered. What is the best way
to put this into the database and allow a user entered parameter for the
range?

All help appreciated

Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Agriculture
Orange



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From KIsmert at TexasSystems.com  Thu Apr 22 18:45:45 2004
From: KIsmert at TexasSystems.com (Ken Ismert)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 18:45:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] VB6 DLL Help Required
In-Reply-To: <19983744.1082635887124.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>
Message-ID: <003001c428c3$eefe8d50$2a3ca8c0@TEXASSYSTEMS.COM>


Paul,

Are you using your DLL 'API-style' using Declare statements, or have you
registered it as a COM component, and can create objects you have defined in
your DLL?

If the former, you are limited basically to return codes from your function
call. If the latter, you could define your own events in your vbSendMail
wrapper object to relay the vbSendMail events to your client.

-Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net [mailto:paul.hartland at fsmail.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 7:11 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] VB6 DLL Help Required


To all,

Been playing with creating my own DLL?s today using Visual Basic 6 and I
eventually created one to send an email using the vbSendMail.dll which works
a treat.  But now I want to use the withevents part of the vbSendMail.dll
which will return the following:

            Email Sent Ok
            Email Failed
            Email Staus

Can I put a form inside a dll or do I somehow have to return the appropriate
message to the calling application, if so how will I do this, has anyone any
ideas on this?

Paul Hartland
Join the UK's number one for the internet
www.freeserve.com/time



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Apr 22 18:51:50 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 16:51:50 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Shell 'discoveries'
References: <20040422100618.1373059489.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <40885A96.1070909@shaw.ca>

Here are a couple of other approaches
FTP: Downloading Files via FTP with Progress Display Callback
http://vbnet.mvps.org/code/internet/ftpdownloadcallback.htm
Creating a Watched Folder with FindChangeNotification
http://vbnet.mvps.org/code/fileapi/watchedfolder.htm

Steven W. Erbach wrote:

>Dear Group,
>
>In debugging the custom EDI application I'm writing for a client of mine, I "discovered" a thing or two about using the Shell command to run a DOS batch file.
>
>The purpose of using the DOS batch file is to start an FTP session and upload a bunch of files to the EDI mailbox. Then, when the batch file is finished, move the files that were uploaded into an archive folder on the server.
>
>I had tested the batch file from a command prompt and it works just dandy. The EDI documents show up as having been uploaded successfully. However when I used the Shell command in my application I wouldn't see any document names uploaded. Then I'd get the annoying e-mail the next day from the EDI service provider saying that the expected documents weren't received.
>
>I finally figured out the problem: Access doesn't wait for the batch file to finish. The Shell command just launches the external program, whatever it is, and goes on to the next task. In my case it was moving the EDI documents into an archive folder. Well, Access whisked those files out of the FTP folder so fast that by the time the FTP login was complete (user name, password, and account name) the files were no longer available for uploading. The FTP session didn't fail, as such, there just wasn't anything to send.
>
>So, I added a MsgBox asking the user to verify that the DOS session had ended before going on to archive the EDI files. Problem solved.
>
>Sorry if this is tediously obvious, but I haven't ever run a batch file from Access and I have nobody to bounce this stuff off of (nobody off of whom to bounce this stuff?).
>
>Regards,
> 
>Steve Erbach
>Scientific Marketing
>Neenah, WI
>920-969-0504
> 
>"Congress is as trustworthy with money as a crack addict who is experimenting with heroin." - Dave Barry
> 
>"Giving money and power to the government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys." - P. J. O'Rourke
> 
>"Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for." - Will Rogers
> 
>"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly American criminal class except Congress." - Mark Twain
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Apr 22 18:59:28 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 16:59:28 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Dual Install 97 and 2000
References: <000b01c428af$28bab8d0$2201a8c0@PASCAL>
Message-ID: <40885C60.3080505@shaw.ca>

It is always oldest first so you will have to uninstall 2000. It creates 
less possibility of errors.
After each install go to officeupdates.microsoft.com to add patches. 
This site only checks office 2000 and up
so you will have to find  and download the Access 97 SP's from here 
seperately.


Mark Whittinghill wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>  I have 2000 on my machine, and would like to add 97.  Can I just install
>97 then fix the hatten.ttf problem, or do I need to uninstall 2000 first,
>install 97 then reinstall 2000?
>
>Mark Whittinghill
>Symphony Information Services
>763-391-7400
>mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com
>
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Apr 22 19:04:46 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 17:04:46 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Dual Install 97 and 2000
References: <000b01c428af$28bab8d0$2201a8c0@PASCAL> <40885C60.3080505@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <40885D9E.3020909@shaw.ca>

That should be
http://office.microsoft.com/officeupdate/

MartyConnelly wrote:

> It is always oldest first so you will have to uninstall 2000. It 
> creates less possibility of errors.
> After each install go to officeupdates.microsoft.com to add patches. 
> This site only checks office 2000 and up for upgrades
> so you will have to find  and download the Access 97 SP's from here 
> seperately.
>
>
> Mark Whittinghill wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>  I have 2000 on my machine, and would like to add 97.  Can I just 
>> install
>> 97 then fix the hatten.ttf problem, or do I need to uninstall 2000 
>> first,
>> install 97 then reinstall 2000?
>>
>> Mark Whittinghill
>> Symphony Information Services
>> 763-391-7400
>> mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Apr 22 19:38:34 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 17:38:34 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Shell 'discoveries'
In-Reply-To: <20040422100618.1373059489.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIGEOJCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Steven:

It has been some time ago but, I had a similar issue. The solution was to
have Access simply save the files, that were to be uploaded and then add an
event to the server's schedular...at 3:00AM every morning the server ran the
scheduled process, that first checked to see if a file was in the upload
queue...if there were it started an ftp session, transferred and received
any files. The only time it did not work was when the remote ftp server was
down.

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Steven W.
Erbach
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 8:06 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Shell 'discoveries'


Dear Group,

In debugging the custom EDI application I'm writing for a client of mine, I
"discovered" a thing or two about using the Shell command to run a DOS batch
file.

The purpose of using the DOS batch file is to start an FTP session and
upload a bunch of files to the EDI mailbox. Then, when the batch file is
finished, move the files that were uploaded into an archive folder on the
server.

I had tested the batch file from a command prompt and it works just dandy.
The EDI documents show up as having been uploaded successfully. However when
I used the Shell command in my application I wouldn't see any document names
uploaded. Then I'd get the annoying e-mail the next day from the EDI service
provider saying that the expected documents weren't received.

I finally figured out the problem: Access doesn't wait for the batch file to
finish. The Shell command just launches the external program, whatever it
is, and goes on to the next task. In my case it was moving the EDI documents
into an archive folder. Well, Access whisked those files out of the FTP
folder so fast that by the time the FTP login was complete (user name,
password, and account name) the files were no longer available for
uploading. The FTP session didn't fail, as such, there just wasn't anything
to send.

So, I added a MsgBox asking the user to verify that the DOS session had
ended before going on to archive the EDI files. Problem solved.

Sorry if this is tediously obvious, but I haven't ever run a batch file from
Access and I have nobody to bounce this stuff off of (nobody off of whom to
bounce this stuff?).

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504

"Congress is as trustworthy with money as a crack addict who is
experimenting with heroin." - Dave Barry

"Giving money and power to the government is like giving whiskey and car
keys to teenage boys." - P. J. O'Rourke

"Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for." - Will
Rogers

"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly
American criminal class except Congress." - Mark Twain

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From KIsmert at TexasSystems.com  Thu Apr 22 20:10:03 2004
From: KIsmert at TexasSystems.com (Ken Ismert)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 20:10:03 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <009601c427ce$7b629120$ef1865cb@winxp>
Message-ID: <003201c428cf$b5c90d10$2a3ca8c0@TEXASSYSTEMS.COM>


Susan,

You can do this using only a query, without any code, OpenArgs, or
calculated controls on the report's part.

You simply need a query with four variables:
  MajorInt	- the major date interval
  MinorInt	- the minor date interval
  CurInt	- the current date's minor interval (1 - 7 for weekdays, etc)
  MaxInt	- the number minor intervals in the major interval

For the following Major/Minor groups, use these values:

  Group        MajorInt   MinorInt   MaxInt   CurInt
  =======================================================================
  Week/Day     "ww"       "w"        7	    DatePart("w", Date)
  Month/Day    "m"        "d"        31       DatePart("d", Date)
  Year/Day     "yyyy"     "y"        366      DatePart("y", Date)
  Year/Week    "yyyy"     "ww"       54       DatePart("ww", Date)

This will group by MajorInt, then MinorInt, ordering the records starting
with CurInt for each MajorInt.

Sample Query:
  (For a report, replace the Parameters with Form control references, and
replace the OrderBy with grouping by GroupMajor, GroupMinor)

  PARAMETERS MajorInt Text ( 255 ), MinorInt Text ( 255 ), CurInt Short,
MaxInt Short;
  SELECT
    DatePart([MajorInt],[DateField]) AS GroupMajor,

(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])+IIf(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])<[CurI
nt],[MaxInt],0)) AS GroupMinor,
    tblDemo.DateID,
    Format([DateField],"yyyy") AS [Year],
    Format([DateField],"mmm") AS [Month],
    DatePart("ww",[DateField]) AS Week,
    DatePart("d",[DateField]) AS DayMonth,
    Format([DateField],"ddd") AS [Day]
  FROM
    tblDemo
  ORDER BY
    DatePart([MajorInt],[DateField]),

(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])+IIf(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])<[CurI
nt],[MaxInt],0));

-Ken
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Susan Harkins
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
  Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 04:16
  Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


  I'm grouping and sorting a report on a date field. The grouping is by the
  week -- but I want it to handle a changing first day of the week variable.
I
  can't get my head around it at all.

  Passing the first day of the week around is no problem -- I just can't
seem
  to get Access to group by it. I've looked at CreateGroupLevel, but I don't
  see how that can help.

  I tried adding a DatePart expression to the Detail section and using the
  OpenArgs property to pass the first day of the week, and while the
  expression works, I can't group by it -- it's a calculated control. I
don't
  want the users manipulating the underlying query either. They choose the
  first day of the week from a simple form and the rest needs to happen
behind
  the scenes.

  Any suggestions?

  Susan H.





From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Apr 23 00:30:20 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 22:30:20 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Mail Merge form letters
References: <OFE83F7E30.44DB6D5B-ONCA256E7E.007FBDEE@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <4088A9EC.6040903@shaw.ca>

For examples see this site

http://www.helenfeddema.com/access.htm
Merging to Word from Linked Access Tables accarch44.zip
92. Mail Merge Mysteries accarch92.zip

http://www.helenfeddema.com/CodeSamples.htm
There are half a dozen samples here
Merging to Word Four Ways
6/9/2002
Demonstrates four ways to merge Access data to Word documents ? Word 
document properties, bookmarks, the TypeText method and DDE mail merge. 
Both Access 97 and Access 2000 databases are provided; the Access 2000 
database also works in Access 2002. code24.zip
----------------
Also note if using Word 2002

in Access 2002 that VBA Mail Merges using OpenDataSource and Connection 
(Name: Query...) which uses
the old DDE technology, is broken. It was used in all previous versions 
of Access. Also, any DDE queries using the Connection method with (Name:
Query...) also If any query parameters are required, or any calculations 
done, or anything special, done to the standard select query,
Within WORD 2002, you CANNOT merge with a QUERY, unless you EXPORT the 
file from within Access and first, save the file as ?Microsoft Word 
Merge? file type
For info if you use these methods with Word 2002, this may have been 
fixed with an SP I am not sure.
http://www.engr.psu.edu/www/trg/isis/docs/Access2002-Merge-Datawarehouse-Notes-New.htm

connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I have just tried searching the archive for info and have some but could
>use a few hints.
>
>I have just written a DB which keeps track of Exhibited animals in our
>state. The client needs tio be able to send licences to exhibit to each of
>his customers as they apply and are accepted or rejected. I have set up a
>mail merge template in word which gets data from the relevant query. Each
>copy of the document will be of varying content based on wether conditions
>are imposed or not.
>
>I have never done this before and so need some advise from those who have.
>
>How do I set this up to print a copy of the letter for every record in a
>range of records? if they have 200 new approvals I need to generate a
>letter for each of the approvals in a range entered. What is the best way
>to put this into the database and allow a user entered parameter for the
>range?
>
>All help appreciated
>
>Connie Kamrowski
>
>Analyst/Programmer
>Information Technology
>NSW Agriculture
>Orange
>
>
>
>This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain
>confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient or received
>it in error, please delete the message and notify sender. Views expressed
>are those of the individual sender and are not necessarily the views of
>their organisation.
>
>
>  
>

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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Apr 23 00:34:37 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 22:34:37 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Dual Install 97 and 2000
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8631273E@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <01dd01c428f4$aac895a0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

And keep an eye on the target folder for the install.  The default install
folder name may be the same for both version.

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 3:46 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Dual Install 97 and 2000


> You can install 97 after.  Rename hatten.ttf before you try it, and you
> may have to reinstall 2000 afterward, retaining 97, to get the file type
> associations right.
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Whittinghill [mailto:mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 1:17 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Dual Install 97 and 2000
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>   I have 2000 on my machine, and would like to add 97.  Can I just
> install 97 then fix the hatten.ttf problem, or do I need to uninstall
> 2000 first, install 97 then reinstall 2000?
>
> Mark Whittinghill
> Symphony Information Services
> 763-391-7400
> mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com
>
>
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From lists at theopg.com  Fri Apr 23 01:45:33 2004
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 07:45:33 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP Runtime and Autocad
In-Reply-To: <8614878414.20040413132824@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <000801c428fe$93ee03b0$0f0b6bd5@netboxxp>

Hello All...

We are using Access XP runtime on Windos XP and today a couple of
machines completely failed to load any access database. In both cases
Autocad 2002 had been installed this morning. You could get into simple
databases, but as soon as you load a form that contains a list or tree
control (mscomctl.ocx) access falls over offering to restart and send a
message to Microsoft... Nothing usefull really.

Anyone out there know what could be causing this problem?

Cheers

Mark



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Apr 23 02:18:44 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 00:18:44 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP Runtime and Autocad
References: <000801c428fe$93ee03b0$0f0b6bd5@netboxxp>
Message-ID: <4088C354.3060707@shaw.ca>

I guess AutoCad install overwrote the control or reregistered their own 
version. Naughty, naughty.
Office XP SP2 installs version 6.1.95.45  of mscomctl.ocx
See DLL hell er help database. to check your present version number 
right click file in windows explorer for properties version.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http%3a%2f%2fsupport.microsoft.com%2fservicedesks%2ffileversion%2fdllinfo.asp&fp=1
Also check your runtime is including that control with the packaging wizard
MarkH wrote:

>Hello All...
>
>We are using Access XP runtime on Windos XP and today a couple of
>machines completely failed to load any access database. In both cases
>Autocad 2002 had been installed this morning. You could get into simple
>databases, but as soon as you load a form that contains a list or tree
>control (mscomctl.ocx) access falls over offering to restart and send a
>message to Microsoft... Nothing usefull really.
>
>Anyone out there know what could be causing this problem?
>
>Cheers
>
>Mark
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Fri Apr 23 03:02:32 2004
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 10:02:32 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] VB6 DLL Help Required
Message-ID: <28557687.1082707352738.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>

This is the code I used for my DLL (may not be what your expecting as this is my first ever DLL, and I use a reference to another DLL (vbSendMail)
Public WithEvents poSendmail As vbSendMail.clsSendMail
Function SendEmail(EmailFrom As String, EmailTo As String, EmailSub As String, EmailBody As String, EmailAtt As String)
    
    Set poSendmail = New clsSendMail
    
    With poSendmail
        .SMTPHost = "Primary"
        .From = EmailFrom
        .FromDisplayName = EmailFrom
        .ReplyToAddress = EmailFrom
        .Recipient = EmailTo
        .Subject = EmailSub
        .Message = EmailBody
        .Attachment = EmailAtt
        .Send
    End With
    
    Set poSendmail = Nothing
    
End Function
Private Sub poSendmail_SendSuccesful()
    MsgBox "Email has been sent", vbInformation, "**** Email Sent ****"
End Sub
Private Sub poSendmail_SendFailed(Explanation As String)
    MsgBox "Email has NOT been sent for the following reason:" & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
                 Explanation, vbInformation, "**** Email Failed ****"
End Sub

The msgbox's work to say if the email has been sent or not, but there is also a status event which really needs to be on a label, but I don't know how to show this to the user.
Paul




Message date : Apr 23 2004, 12:47 AM
>From : "Ken Ismert" 
To : "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
Copy to : 
Subject : RE: [AccessD] VB6 DLL Help Required

Paul,

Are you using your DLL 'API-style' using Declare statements, or have you
registered it as a COM component, and can create objects you have defined in
your DLL?

If the former, you are limited basically to return codes from your function
call. If the latter, you could define your own events in your vbSendMail
wrapper object to relay the vbSendMail events to your client.

-Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net [mailto:paul.hartland at fsmail.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 7:11 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] VB6 DLL Help Required


To all,

Been playing with creating my own DLL?s today using Visual Basic 6 and I
eventually created one to send an email using the vbSendMail.dll which works
a treat. But now I want to use the withevents part of the vbSendMail.dll
which will return the following:

Email Sent Ok
Email Failed
Email Staus

Can I put a form inside a dll or do I somehow have to return the appropriate
message to the calling application, if so how will I do this, has anyone any
ideas on this?

Paul Hartland
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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Fri Apr 23 03:33:50 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 01:33:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] MoveFile in Class -> Permission denied?
Message-ID: <20040423083350.99802.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com>

hi group,
 
I've got some code (think from internet) that moves a file. Works like a charm. However, I've created a method in a class called .MoveFile and added the 'move-file'-code to it. Now i get the following error: 70, permission denied. 
So when I call the code in a function it works
When I call the code as a method in a class it doesn't work.
 
How come?
 
TIA
 
Sander
C O D E   I N   F O R M
         '---------------------------------------------------
         'M O V E  F I L E
         '---------------------------------------------------
         With cFile
            .DownloadDir = "D:\Temp Projecten\Access\Switch\Download\"
            .ImportDir = "D:\Temp Projecten\Access\Switch\44\"
            txtDownloadDir = .DownloadDir
            txtImportDir = .ImportDir
            Call .MoveFile(.DownloadDir, .ImportDir, GetNamePart(strFileName))
         End With

C O D E   I N   C L A S S 
'Move a file if it exists
Function MoveFile(strSourceDir As String, _
                  strDestinationDir As String, _
                  strFile As String) As Boolean
   Dim fso
   Dim file As String, sfol As String, dfol As String
   
   file = strFile ' "test.xls"   ' change to match the file name
   sfol = strSourceDir ' "C:\"   ' change to match the source folder path
   dfol = strDestinationDir ' "E:\"   ' change to match the destination folder path
   
   Set fso = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
   
   If Not fso.FileExists(sfol & file) Then
      MsgBox sfol & file & " does not exist!", vbExclamation, "Source File Missing"
   ElseIf Not fso.FileExists(dfol & file) Then
      fso.MoveFile (sfol & file), dfol    <<== ERROR OCCURS HERE?!!
   Else
      MsgBox dfol & file & " already exists!", vbExclamation, "Destination File Exists"
   End If
   
End Function

Public Property Get DownloadDir() As String
   DownloadDir = m_strDownloadDir
End Property
Public Property Let ImportDir(ByVal vData As String)
   m_strImportDir = vData
End Property
Public Property Get ImportDir() As String
   ImportDir = m_strImportDir
End Property

 
 
 
 

		
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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Fri Apr 23 03:45:37 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 01:45:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] OT SQL Question
In-Reply-To: <002501c428a9$a77fa140$1b02a8c0@MARTINREID>
Message-ID: <20040423084537.43405.qmail@web61105.mail.yahoo.com>

Martin,
 
can you please provide a little more info?
WHY do you not want to use cursors?
Where does the output have to go to?
What format does it need to have?
What's the layout of the tables? (Send me the create table scripts...)
 
Sander

Martin Reid <mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk> wrote:
Tried the SQL Server list with this - no luck.


Given a one to many relationship is it possible to produce this output using
an SP without the use of cursors etc??

INPUT TABLE 1

1000
IT

1000
Databases

1000
VMS

1001
Spreadsheets

1001
GenStat

1002
Aquatic systems

1002
Research




INPUT TABLE 2



1000
Smith

1001
Brown

1002
Foster




OUTPUT REQUIRED

1000
Smith
IT, Databases,VMS

1001
Brown
Spreadsheets,GenStat

1002
Foster
Aquatic Systems,Research




Martin


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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr 23 03:41:32 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 10:41:32 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
In-Reply-To: <408827CE.7060601@verizon.net>
References: <657FB70438B7D311AF320090279C18010614418F@EXCHMAIL>
	<322806795.20040422090018@cactus.dk> <408827CE.7060601@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <1387056546.20040423104132@cactus.dk>

Hi Francisco

> Gustav,
>    David quoted an article for Sql Server in which this is 100% 
> reproducable.  I think he posted it here because of the initial posts of 
> problems where the IN clause or rather (NOT IN) was not behaving as 
> expected.  for that manner I've also seen it do this, one major 
> workaround is to explicitly point the inner quiery to that of the outer 
> query. that way any possible errors will be trapped

> SUCH as

>   DELETE FROM
>     TitleAuthor
>   WHERE
>     au_id IN (SELECT au_id FROM Publishers WHERE Publishers.au_id=TitleAuthor.au_id)

But Christopher didn't refer to SQL Server, that's why I thought it
would be more relevant to show that this bug is non-existing in Jet SQL.

Further, I guess including the where clause will perform much slower?
If you really need to do that, couldn't this do (I have no SQL Server
to play with):

     au_id IN
     (SELECT au_id FROM Publishers WHERE Publishers.au_id Is Not Null)

/gustav


>>>Pinnacle's SQL Server Professional, February 2002 (Volume 8, Number 2),
>>>"Known Problems with IN/NOT IN()"
>>>    
>>>
>>I can't recognize this; it behaves very politely.
>>The syntax doesn't work in Jet SQL, but this does:
>>
>>  DELETE FROM
>>    TitleAuthor
>>  WHERE
>>    au_id IN (SELECT au_id FROM Publishers)
>>
>>and it deletes zero records if Publishers is empty. If au_id doesn't
>>exist as a field, Access asks for it as a parameter.
>>So this is exactly as expected.
>>
>>Can you provide another example? Or are you talking about another SQL
>>engine?



From mwp.reid at queens-belfast.ac.uk  Fri Apr 23 05:10:37 2004
From: mwp.reid at queens-belfast.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 11:10:37 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
Subject: [AccessD] OT SQL Question
In-Reply-To: <20040423084537.43405.qmail@web61105.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SIMEON.10404231137.B@TUG00001.fujin.qub.ac.uk>

Sander

See inline

Martin



> Martin,
>  
> can you please provide a little more info?
> WHY do you not want to use cursors?

No reason just wanted to try it using SQL but didnt seem 
possible without cursors. 

> Where does the output have to go to?

Into a table

> What format does it need to have?

see above

> What's the layout of the tables? (Send me the create table scripts...)

No problem will email them of line later on. That OK?

>  
> Sander
> 
> Martin Reid <mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk> wrote:
> Tried the SQL Server list with this - no luck.
> 
> 
> Given a one to many relationship is it possible to produce this output using
> an SP without the use of cursors etc??
> 
> INPUT TABLE 1
> 
> 1000
> IT
> 
> 1000
> Databases
> 
> 1000
> VMS
> 
> 1001
> Spreadsheets
> 
> 1001
> GenStat
> 
> 1002
> Aquatic systems
> 
> 1002
> Research
> 
> 
> 
> 
> INPUT TABLE 2
> 
> 
> 
> 1000
> Smith
> 
> 1001
> Brown
> 
> 1002
> Foster
> 
> 
> 
> 
> OUTPUT REQUIRED
> 
> 1000
> Smith
> IT, Databases,VMS
> 
> 1001
> Brown
> Spreadsheets,GenStat
> 
> 1002
> Foster
> Aquatic Systems,Research
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Martin
> 
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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Fri Apr 23 07:45:59 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 08:45:59 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] VB6 DLL Help Required
Message-ID: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F9902E8058E@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com>

Paul,

I don't know the name of the status event you mention but you could do it a couple of ways.   Yes you could have a form in your dll that appears when status changes (I'm guessing this is the status events use):

<pseudocode>
Private Sub poSendMail_StatusChanged()
  frmStatus.Show
End Sub
</pseudocode>

Or you could add  a Status property and an event to your DLL that wraps the  vbSendMail status event.  This way your app can do whatever it likes with the event

<pseudocode>
Private m_strStatus As String
Public Event EmailStatusChanged

Public Property Get Status() As String
    Status = m_strStatus
End Property

Public Property Let Status(ByVal strStatus As String)
    m_strStatus = strStatus
End Property

Private Sub poSendMail_StatusChanged()
  m_strStatus = SomeValue 'set the Status property in the Changed event
  RaiseEvent EmailStatusChanged 'this is the event you'll trap in your client app
End Sub
</pseudocode>

Now you create an object of your class type in your client app WithEvents:

<pseudocode>
Dim strStatus As String
Private WithEvents myObject as MyDll.cMyClass

private Sub myObject_EmailStatusChanged()
	strStatus = myObject.Status
	'show the status to the user here
End Sub
</pseudocode>

HTH,

Jim DeMarco
Director Application Development
Hudson Health Plan




-----Original Message-----
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net [mailto:paul.hartland at fsmail.net]
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 4:03 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: RE: [AccessD] VB6 DLL Help Required


This is the code I used for my DLL (may not be what your expecting as this is my first ever DLL, and I use a reference to another DLL (vbSendMail)
Public WithEvents poSendmail As vbSendMail.clsSendMail
Function SendEmail(EmailFrom As String, EmailTo As String, EmailSub As String, EmailBody As String, EmailAtt As String)
    
    Set poSendmail = New clsSendMail
    
    With poSendmail
        .SMTPHost = "Primary"
        .From = EmailFrom
        .FromDisplayName = EmailFrom
        .ReplyToAddress = EmailFrom
        .Recipient = EmailTo
        .Subject = EmailSub
        .Message = EmailBody
        .Attachment = EmailAtt
        .Send
    End With
    
    Set poSendmail = Nothing
    
End Function
Private Sub poSendmail_SendSuccesful()
    MsgBox "Email has been sent", vbInformation, "**** Email Sent ****"
End Sub
Private Sub poSendmail_SendFailed(Explanation As String)
    MsgBox "Email has NOT been sent for the following reason:" & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
                 Explanation, vbInformation, "**** Email Failed ****"
End Sub

The msgbox's work to say if the email has been sent or not, but there is also a status event which really needs to be on a label, but I don't know how to show this to the user.
Paul




Message date : Apr 23 2004, 12:47 AM
>From : "Ken Ismert" 
To : "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
Copy to : 
Subject : RE: [AccessD] VB6 DLL Help Required

Paul,

Are you using your DLL 'API-style' using Declare statements, or have you
registered it as a COM component, and can create objects you have defined in
your DLL?

If the former, you are limited basically to return codes from your function
call. If the latter, you could define your own events in your vbSendMail
wrapper object to relay the vbSendMail events to your client.

-Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net [mailto:paul.hartland at fsmail.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 7:11 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] VB6 DLL Help Required


To all,

Been playing with creating my own DLL's today using Visual Basic 6 and I
eventually created one to send an email using the vbSendMail.dll which works
a treat. But now I want to use the withevents part of the vbSendMail.dll
which will return the following:

Email Sent Ok
Email Failed
Email Staus

Can I put a form inside a dll or do I somehow have to return the appropriate
message to the calling application, if so how will I do this, has anyone any
ideas on this?

Paul Hartland
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr 23 08:08:37 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 09:08:37 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <003201c428cf$b5c90d10$2a3ca8c0@TEXASSYSTEMS.COM>
Message-ID: <20040423130836.OIAG1728.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Thank you Ken. ;) 

My final solution is to refer to the form value in the query. This time
around, I hid the report, forcing the user to use the form to open the
report, but that isn't the best way to do it. Unfortunately, I didn't know
how to ward off the dread parameter prompt when the user opens the report
naturally instead of through the form. I've no problem setting a default for
the sort, but couldn't stop that stupid prompt because it's coming from the
query. :( 

Susan H. 

Susan,

You can do this using only a query, without any code, OpenArgs, or
calculated controls on the report's part.

You simply need a query with four variables:
  MajorInt	- the major date interval
  MinorInt	- the minor date interval
  CurInt	- the current date's minor interval (1 - 7 for weekdays,
etc)
  MaxInt	- the number minor intervals in the major interval

For the following Major/Minor groups, use these values:

  Group        MajorInt   MinorInt   MaxInt   CurInt
  =======================================================================
  Week/Day     "ww"       "w"        7	    DatePart("w", Date)
  Month/Day    "m"        "d"        31       DatePart("d", Date)
  Year/Day     "yyyy"     "y"        366      DatePart("y", Date)
  Year/Week    "yyyy"     "ww"       54       DatePart("ww", Date)

This will group by MajorInt, then MinorInt, ordering the records starting
with CurInt for each MajorInt.

Sample Query:
  (For a report, replace the Parameters with Form control references, and
replace the OrderBy with grouping by GroupMajor, GroupMinor)

  PARAMETERS MajorInt Text ( 255 ), MinorInt Text ( 255 ), CurInt Short,
MaxInt Short;
  SELECT
    DatePart([MajorInt],[DateField]) AS GroupMajor,

(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])+IIf(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])<[CurI
nt],[MaxInt],0)) AS GroupMinor,
    tblDemo.DateID,
    Format([DateField],"yyyy") AS [Year],
    Format([DateField],"mmm") AS [Month],
    DatePart("ww",[DateField]) AS Week,
    DatePart("d",[DateField]) AS DayMonth,
    Format([DateField],"ddd") AS [Day]
  FROM
    tblDemo
  ORDER BY
    DatePart([MajorInt],[DateField]),

(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])+IIf(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])<[CurI
nt],[MaxInt],0));

-Ken
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Susan Harkins
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
  Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 04:16
  Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


  I'm grouping and sorting a report on a date field. The grouping is by the
  week -- but I want it to handle a changing first day of the week variable.
I
  can't get my head around it at all.

  Passing the first day of the week around is no problem -- I just can't
seem
  to get Access to group by it. I've looked at CreateGroupLevel, but I don't
  see how that can help.

  I tried adding a DatePart expression to the Detail section and using the
  OpenArgs property to pass the first day of the week, and while the
  expression works, I can't group by it -- it's a calculated control. I
don't
  want the users manipulating the underlying query either. They choose the
  first day of the week from a simple form and the rest needs to happen
behind
  the scenes.

  Any suggestions?

  Susan H.



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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Fri Apr 23 08:16:16 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 09:16:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040423130836.OIAG1728.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKIEOKJAAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Susan,

<<Unfortunately, I didn't know
how to ward off the dread parameter prompt when the user opens the report
naturally instead of through the form. >>

  In the reports OnOpen event, you can check for the existence of the form
and

1. Open it and switch focus to it.
2. Cancel the report with a message box to the user telling them that they
need to open the report through the form.
3. Open the form hidden, stuff a default value, and then continue.

 or

4. Change the query to use a function to get the value for the parameter
from a global variable, which could be set from the form or from the
report's OnOpen event if the form is not open.

Jim
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 9:09 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


Thank you Ken. ;)

My final solution is to refer to the form value in the query. This time
around, I hid the report, forcing the user to use the form to open the
report, but that isn't the best way to do it. Unfortunately, I didn't know
how to ward off the dread parameter prompt when the user opens the report
naturally instead of through the form. I've no problem setting a default for
the sort, but couldn't stop that stupid prompt because it's coming from the
query. :(

Susan H.

Susan,

You can do this using only a query, without any code, OpenArgs, or
calculated controls on the report's part.

You simply need a query with four variables:
  MajorInt	- the major date interval
  MinorInt	- the minor date interval
  CurInt	- the current date's minor interval (1 - 7 for weekdays,
etc)
  MaxInt	- the number minor intervals in the major interval

For the following Major/Minor groups, use these values:

  Group        MajorInt   MinorInt   MaxInt   CurInt
  =======================================================================
  Week/Day     "ww"       "w"        7	    DatePart("w", Date)
  Month/Day    "m"        "d"        31       DatePart("d", Date)
  Year/Day     "yyyy"     "y"        366      DatePart("y", Date)
  Year/Week    "yyyy"     "ww"       54       DatePart("ww", Date)

This will group by MajorInt, then MinorInt, ordering the records starting
with CurInt for each MajorInt.

Sample Query:
  (For a report, replace the Parameters with Form control references, and
replace the OrderBy with grouping by GroupMajor, GroupMinor)

  PARAMETERS MajorInt Text ( 255 ), MinorInt Text ( 255 ), CurInt Short,
MaxInt Short;
  SELECT
    DatePart([MajorInt],[DateField]) AS GroupMajor,

(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])+IIf(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])<[CurI
nt],[MaxInt],0)) AS GroupMinor,
    tblDemo.DateID,
    Format([DateField],"yyyy") AS [Year],
    Format([DateField],"mmm") AS [Month],
    DatePart("ww",[DateField]) AS Week,
    DatePart("d",[DateField]) AS DayMonth,
    Format([DateField],"ddd") AS [Day]
  FROM
    tblDemo
  ORDER BY
    DatePart([MajorInt],[DateField]),

(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])+IIf(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])<[CurI
nt],[MaxInt],0));

-Ken
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Susan Harkins
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
  Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 04:16
  Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


  I'm grouping and sorting a report on a date field. The grouping is by the
  week -- but I want it to handle a changing first day of the week variable.
I
  can't get my head around it at all.

  Passing the first day of the week around is no problem -- I just can't
seem
  to get Access to group by it. I've looked at CreateGroupLevel, but I don't
  see how that can help.

  I tried adding a DatePart expression to the Detail section and using the
  OpenArgs property to pass the first day of the week, and while the
  expression works, I can't group by it -- it's a calculated control. I
don't
  want the users manipulating the underlying query either. They choose the
  first day of the week from a simple form and the rest needs to happen
behind
  the scenes.

  Any suggestions?

  Susan H.



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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr 23 08:28:33 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 15:28:33 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <20040423130836.OIAG1728.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <20040423130836.OIAG1728.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <17524277599.20040423152833@cactus.dk>

Hi Susan

> My final solution is to refer to the form value in the query. This time
> around, I hid the report, forcing the user to use the form to open the
> report, but that isn't the best way to do it. Unfortunately, I didn't know
> how to ward off the dread parameter prompt when the user opens the report
> naturally instead of through the form. I've no problem setting a default for
> the sort, but couldn't stop that stupid prompt because it's coming from the
> query. :(

If that was your only problem (of this thread, of course), you could
replace the parameter lookup with a tiny public function performing
the lookup:

<air code>

  Function GetReportWeekday() As Byte

    Const cstrForm    As String = "frmYourForm"
    ' Default first weekday.
    Const cbytWeekday As Byte = vbSunday
    
    Dim bytWeekday    As Byte

    If IsFormOpen(cstrForm) Then
      bytWeekday = Val(Nz(Forms(cstrForm)!txtYourTextbox.Value, vbNullString))
    EndIf
    If bytWeekday = 0 Then
      bytWeekday = cbytWeekday
    Endif

    GetReportWeekday = bytWeekday
    
  End Function

</air code>

/gustav



From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Fri Apr 23 08:44:29 2004
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 19:14:29 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
References: <20040423130836.OIAG1728.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <005f01c42939$445e4540$cd1865cb@winxp>

Susan,

    Did you happen to try out the solution given by me ? It makes use of the existing date field in report's record source and is not dependent upon the form having to remain open. No special alteration needed for the source query and no parameters to contend with.

    If due to any reason, the value of starting day of the week is not passed to report's OpenArgs, default value of 1 (Sunday) is assumed and there is no error situation.

Regards,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Susan Harkins 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 18:38
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


  Thank you Ken. ;) 

  My final solution is to refer to the form value in the query. This time
  around, I hid the report, forcing the user to use the form to open the
  report, but that isn't the best way to do it. Unfortunately, I didn't know
  how to ward off the dread parameter prompt when the user opens the report
  naturally instead of through the form. I've no problem setting a default for
  the sort, but couldn't stop that stupid prompt because it's coming from the
  query. :( 

  Susan H. 

  Susan,

  You can do this using only a query, without any code, OpenArgs, or
  calculated controls on the report's part.

  You simply need a query with four variables:
    MajorInt - the major date interval
    MinorInt - the minor date interval
    CurInt - the current date's minor interval (1 - 7 for weekdays,
  etc)
    MaxInt - the number minor intervals in the major interval

  For the following Major/Minor groups, use these values:

    Group        MajorInt   MinorInt   MaxInt   CurInt
    =======================================================================
    Week/Day     "ww"       "w"        7     DatePart("w", Date)
    Month/Day    "m"        "d"        31       DatePart("d", Date)
    Year/Day     "yyyy"     "y"        366      DatePart("y", Date)
    Year/Week    "yyyy"     "ww"       54       DatePart("ww", Date)

  This will group by MajorInt, then MinorInt, ordering the records starting
  with CurInt for each MajorInt.

  Sample Query:
    (For a report, replace the Parameters with Form control references, and
  replace the OrderBy with grouping by GroupMajor, GroupMinor)

    PARAMETERS MajorInt Text ( 255 ), MinorInt Text ( 255 ), CurInt Short,
  MaxInt Short;
    SELECT
      DatePart([MajorInt],[DateField]) AS GroupMajor,

  (DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])+IIf(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])<[CurI
  nt],[MaxInt],0)) AS GroupMinor,
      tblDemo.DateID,
      Format([DateField],"yyyy") AS [Year],
      Format([DateField],"mmm") AS [Month],
      DatePart("ww",[DateField]) AS Week,
      DatePart("d",[DateField]) AS DayMonth,
      Format([DateField],"ddd") AS [Day]
    FROM
      tblDemo
    ORDER BY
      DatePart([MajorInt],[DateField]),

  (DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])+IIf(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])<[CurI
  nt],[MaxInt],0));

  -Ken
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Susan Harkins
    To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
    Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 04:16
    Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


    I'm grouping and sorting a report on a date field. The grouping is by the
    week -- but I want it to handle a changing first day of the week variable.
  I
    can't get my head around it at all.

    Passing the first day of the week around is no problem -- I just can't
  seem
    to get Access to group by it. I've looked at CreateGroupLevel, but I don't
    see how that can help.

    I tried adding a DatePart expression to the Detail section and using the
    OpenArgs property to pass the first day of the week, and while the
    expression works, I can't group by it -- it's a calculated control. I
  don't
    want the users manipulating the underlying query either. They choose the
    first day of the week from a simple form and the rest needs to happen
  behind
    the scenes.

    Any suggestions?

    Susan H.



From rbgajewski at adelphia.net  Fri Apr 23 08:48:15 2004
From: rbgajewski at adelphia.net (Bob Gajewski)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 09:48:15 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKIEOKJAAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <LHEEKEKNLFONONKPIOCJKEBPGEAA.rbgajewski@adelphia.net>

Susan

If you choose Option #2 ...

(watch for line wraps)

In the report's OnOpen event, place:
******************************************
Private Sub Report_Open(Cancel As Integer)
Dim strFormName As String
	strFormName = "yourformname"
If Not IsLoaded(strFormName) Then
	Dim strMsg As String, strResponse As String
		strMsg = "This report cannot be run directly. You must open the " &
strFormName & " form."
		strResponse = MsgBox(strMsg)
	Cancel = True
End If
End Sub
******************************************

And in a module, place:
******************************************
Function IsLoaded(ByVal strFormName As String) As Boolean

	Const conObjStateClosed = 0
	Const conDesignView = 0

	If SysCmd(acSysCmdGetObjectState, acForm, strFormName) <> conObjStateClosed
Then
		If Forms(strFormName).CurrentView <> conDesignView Then
			IsLoaded = True
		End If
	End If

End Function
******************************************

Regards,
Bob Gajewski


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 09:16
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


Susan,

<<Unfortunately, I didn't know
how to ward off the dread parameter prompt when the user opens the report
naturally instead of through the form. >>

  In the reports OnOpen event, you can check for the existence of the form
and

1. Open it and switch focus to it.
2. Cancel the report with a message box to the user telling them that they
need to open the report through the form.
3. Open the form hidden, stuff a default value, and then continue.

 or

4. Change the query to use a function to get the value for the parameter
from a global variable, which could be set from the form or from the
report's OnOpen event if the form is not open.

Jim
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 9:09 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


Thank you Ken. ;)

My final solution is to refer to the form value in the query. This time
around, I hid the report, forcing the user to use the form to open the
report, but that isn't the best way to do it. Unfortunately, I didn't know
how to ward off the dread parameter prompt when the user opens the report
naturally instead of through the form. I've no problem setting a default for
the sort, but couldn't stop that stupid prompt because it's coming from the
query. :(

Susan H.

Susan,

You can do this using only a query, without any code, OpenArgs, or
calculated controls on the report's part.

You simply need a query with four variables:
  MajorInt	- the major date interval
  MinorInt	- the minor date interval
  CurInt	- the current date's minor interval (1 - 7 for weekdays,
etc)
  MaxInt	- the number minor intervals in the major interval

For the following Major/Minor groups, use these values:

  Group        MajorInt   MinorInt   MaxInt   CurInt
  =======================================================================
  Week/Day     "ww"       "w"        7	    DatePart("w", Date)
  Month/Day    "m"        "d"        31       DatePart("d", Date)
  Year/Day     "yyyy"     "y"        366      DatePart("y", Date)
  Year/Week    "yyyy"     "ww"       54       DatePart("ww", Date)

This will group by MajorInt, then MinorInt, ordering the records starting
with CurInt for each MajorInt.

Sample Query:
  (For a report, replace the Parameters with Form control references, and
replace the OrderBy with grouping by GroupMajor, GroupMinor)

  PARAMETERS MajorInt Text ( 255 ), MinorInt Text ( 255 ), CurInt Short,
MaxInt Short;
  SELECT
    DatePart([MajorInt],[DateField]) AS GroupMajor,

(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])+IIf(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])<[CurI
nt],[MaxInt],0)) AS GroupMinor,
    tblDemo.DateID,
    Format([DateField],"yyyy") AS [Year],
    Format([DateField],"mmm") AS [Month],
    DatePart("ww",[DateField]) AS Week,
    DatePart("d",[DateField]) AS DayMonth,
    Format([DateField],"ddd") AS [Day]
  FROM
    tblDemo
  ORDER BY
    DatePart([MajorInt],[DateField]),

(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])+IIf(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])<[CurI
nt],[MaxInt],0));

-Ken
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Susan Harkins
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
  Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 04:16
  Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


  I'm grouping and sorting a report on a date field. The grouping is by the
  week -- but I want it to handle a changing first day of the week variable.
I
  can't get my head around it at all.

  Passing the first day of the week around is no problem -- I just can't
seem
  to get Access to group by it. I've looked at CreateGroupLevel, but I don't
  see how that can help.

  I tried adding a DatePart expression to the Detail section and using the
  OpenArgs property to pass the first day of the week, and while the
  expression works, I can't group by it -- it's a calculated control. I
don't
  want the users manipulating the underlying query either. They choose the
  first day of the week from a simple form and the rest needs to happen
behind
  the scenes.

  Any suggestions?

  Susan H.



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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Fri Apr 23 09:17:51 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 10:17:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
Message-ID: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F9902E80595@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com>

Just a quick and easy question.  What's new in advanced coding features in Access 2003?  We have enums but can we raise events?  Can we design and use a class as an Interface?   Is there anything else from VB that might have been added?

TIA,

Jim DeMarco
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From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca  Fri Apr 23 09:38:15 2004
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 10:38:15 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
Message-ID: <s088f229.026@cbc.ca>

Enums and RaiseEvents aren't new in A2K3. They were added in A2K.

As for what's new in A2K3, I can't help. I don't have it.

Bryan Carbonnell
bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca

>>> Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org 23-Apr-04 10:17:51 AM >>>
Just a quick and easy question.  What's new in advanced coding features
in Access 2003?  We have enums but can we raise events?  Can we design
and use a class as an Interface?   Is there anything else from VB that
might have been added?

TIA,




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr 23 09:40:33 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 10:40:33 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKIEOKJAAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20040423144032.SRAV1774.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I considered the first, but skipped it because the article was already so
long, but I didn't actually apply it. My reasons for wanting the report to
open without error is so the user could avoid the form altogether and depend
on defaults within the report itself when the form isn't present, but it
wasn't worth the extra space for the current article. 

I started out with a function, but my goal was to do it with as few pieces
as possible.  

Susan H. 

Susan,

<<Unfortunately, I didn't know
how to ward off the dread parameter prompt when the user opens the report
naturally instead of through the form. >>

  In the reports OnOpen event, you can check for the existence of the form
and

1. Open it and switch focus to it.
2. Cancel the report with a message box to the user telling them that they
need to open the report through the form.
3. Open the form hidden, stuff a default value, and then continue.

 or

4. Change the query to use a function to get the value for the parameter
from a global variable, which could be set from the form or from the
report's OnOpen event if the form is not open.

Jim
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 9:09 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


Thank you Ken. ;)

My final solution is to refer to the form value in the query. This time
around, I hid the report, forcing the user to use the form to open the
report, but that isn't the best way to do it. Unfortunately, I didn't know
how to ward off the dread parameter prompt when the user opens the report
naturally instead of through the form. I've no problem setting a default for
the sort, but couldn't stop that stupid prompt because it's coming from the
query. :(

Susan H.

Susan,

You can do this using only a query, without any code, OpenArgs, or
calculated controls on the report's part.

You simply need a query with four variables:
  MajorInt	- the major date interval
  MinorInt	- the minor date interval
  CurInt	- the current date's minor interval (1 - 7 for weekdays,
etc)
  MaxInt	- the number minor intervals in the major interval

For the following Major/Minor groups, use these values:

  Group        MajorInt   MinorInt   MaxInt   CurInt
  =======================================================================
  Week/Day     "ww"       "w"        7	    DatePart("w", Date)
  Month/Day    "m"        "d"        31       DatePart("d", Date)
  Year/Day     "yyyy"     "y"        366      DatePart("y", Date)
  Year/Week    "yyyy"     "ww"       54       DatePart("ww", Date)

This will group by MajorInt, then MinorInt, ordering the records starting
with CurInt for each MajorInt.

Sample Query:
  (For a report, replace the Parameters with Form control references, and
replace the OrderBy with grouping by GroupMajor, GroupMinor)

  PARAMETERS MajorInt Text ( 255 ), MinorInt Text ( 255 ), CurInt Short,
MaxInt Short;
  SELECT
    DatePart([MajorInt],[DateField]) AS GroupMajor,

(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])+IIf(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])<[CurI
nt],[MaxInt],0)) AS GroupMinor,
    tblDemo.DateID,
    Format([DateField],"yyyy") AS [Year],
    Format([DateField],"mmm") AS [Month],
    DatePart("ww",[DateField]) AS Week,
    DatePart("d",[DateField]) AS DayMonth,
    Format([DateField],"ddd") AS [Day]
  FROM
    tblDemo
  ORDER BY
    DatePart([MajorInt],[DateField]),

(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])+IIf(DatePart([MinorInt],[DateField])<[CurI
nt],[MaxInt],0));

-Ken
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Susan Harkins
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
  Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 04:16
  Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report


  I'm grouping and sorting a report on a date field. The grouping is by the
  week -- but I want it to handle a changing first day of the week variable.
I
  can't get my head around it at all.

  Passing the first day of the week around is no problem -- I just can't
seem
  to get Access to group by it. I've looked at CreateGroupLevel, but I don't
  see how that can help.

  I tried adding a DatePart expression to the Detail section and using the
  OpenArgs property to pass the first day of the week, and while the
  expression works, I can't group by it -- it's a calculated control. I
don't
  want the users manipulating the underlying query either. They choose the
  first day of the week from a simple form and the rest needs to happen
behind
  the scenes.

  Any suggestions?

  Susan H.



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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr 23 09:41:23 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 10:41:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <17524277599.20040423152833@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20040423144121.SRVB1774.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Back to the function though -- I wanted to avoid it. I plan to hock a
follow-up. ;) 

Susan H. 

Hi Susan

> My final solution is to refer to the form value in the query. This 
> time around, I hid the report, forcing the user to use the form to 
> open the report, but that isn't the best way to do it. Unfortunately, 
> I didn't know how to ward off the dread parameter prompt when the user 
> opens the report naturally instead of through the form. I've no 
> problem setting a default for the sort, but couldn't stop that stupid 
> prompt because it's coming from the query. :(

If that was your only problem (of this thread, of course), you could replace
the parameter lookup with a tiny public function performing the lookup:

<air code>

  Function GetReportWeekday() As Byte

    Const cstrForm    As String = "frmYourForm"
    ' Default first weekday.
    Const cbytWeekday As Byte = vbSunday
    
    Dim bytWeekday    As Byte

    If IsFormOpen(cstrForm) Then
      bytWeekday = Val(Nz(Forms(cstrForm)!txtYourTextbox.Value,
vbNullString))
    EndIf
    If bytWeekday = 0 Then
      bytWeekday = cbytWeekday
    Endif

    GetReportWeekday = bytWeekday
    
  End Function

</air code>

/gustav

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr 23 09:42:05 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 10:42:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] custom sorts/groups in a report
In-Reply-To: <005f01c42939$445e4540$cd1865cb@winxp>
Message-ID: <20040423144203.SSGC1774.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I don't really remember -- reviewed several though -- lots of interesting
choices, that's for sure. :) 

Susan H. 

Susan,

    Did you happen to try out the solution given by me ? It makes use of the
existing date field in report's record source and is not dependent upon the
form having to remain open. No special alteration needed for the source
query and no parameters to contend with.

    If due to any reason, the value of starting day of the week is not
passed to report's OpenArgs, default value of 1 (Sunday) is assumed and
there is no error situation.




From lists at theopg.com  Fri Apr 23 10:08:19 2004
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 16:08:19 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP Runtime and Autocad
In-Reply-To: <4088C354.3060707@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <000001c42944$cff34c80$0f0b6bd5@netboxxp>

Cheers Marty... Will do

Have a good weekend

Mark

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: 23 April 2004 08:19
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access XP Runtime and Autocad


I guess AutoCad install overwrote the control or reregistered their own 
version. Naughty, naughty.
Office XP SP2 installs version 6.1.95.45  of mscomctl.ocx
See DLL hell er help database. to check your present version number 
right click file in windows explorer for properties version.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http%3a%2f%2fsupport.micr
osoft.com%2fservicedesks%2ffileversion%2fdllinfo.asp&fp=1
Also check your runtime is including that control with the packaging
wizard MarkH wrote:

>Hello All...
>
>We are using Access XP runtime on Windos XP and today a couple of 
>machines completely failed to load any access database. In both cases 
>Autocad 2002 had been installed this morning. You could get into simple

>databases, but as soon as you load a form that contains a list or tree 
>control (mscomctl.ocx) access falls over offering to restart and send a

>message to Microsoft... Nothing usefull really.
>
>Anyone out there know what could be causing this problem?
>
>Cheers
>
>Mark
>
>  
>

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Apr 23 10:30:48 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 08:30:48 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8631273F@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I don't have it yet.  My understanding is that there is almost nothing
new in 2003, since it is still based on VBA6 and has no hooks to VB.net.
Raising custom events came in with 2002.

Charlotte Foust

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From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org] 
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 6:18 AM
To: AccessD (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question


Just a quick and easy question.  What's new in advanced coding features
in Access 2003?  We have enums but can we raise events?  Can we design
and use a class as an Interface?   Is there anything else from VB that
might have been added?

TIA,

Jim DeMarco
Director Application Development
Hudson Health Plan




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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr 23 10:49:13 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 17:49:13 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8631273F@infoserver01.infostat.local>
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8631273F@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <3232717965.20040423174913@cactus.dk>

Hi Charlotte and Jim

Here's the blurb:

  http://www.microsoft.com/office/editions/prodinfo/compare.mspx

For Access it pretty much comes down to Smart Tags ...

/gustav


> I don't have it yet.  My understanding is that there is almost nothing
> new in 2003, since it is still based on VBA6 and has no hooks to VB.net.
> Raising custom events came in with 2002.

> Charlotte Foust

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org] 
> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 6:18 AM
> To: AccessD (E-mail)
> Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question


> Just a quick and easy question.  What's new in advanced coding features
> in Access 2003?  We have enums but can we raise events?  Can we design
> and use a class as an Interface?   Is there anything else from VB that
> might have been added?

> TIA,

> Jim DeMarco
> Director Application Development
> Hudson Health Plan



From mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com  Fri Apr 23 11:01:17 2004
From: mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com (Mark Whittinghill)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 11:01:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Dual Install 97 and 2000
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8631273E@infoserver01.infostat.local>
	<01dd01c428f4$aac895a0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <003001c4294c$36d99920$2201a8c0@PASCAL>

Thanks for the replies.  I've done dual installs before, but always earlier
first.  I was just hoping to save a little work, but I'll uninstall 2K and
reinstall after 97.

Mark Whittinghill
Symphony Information Services
763-391-7400
mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com
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From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 12:34 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Dual Install 97 and 2000


> And keep an eye on the target folder for the install.  The default install
> folder name may be the same for both version.
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 3:46 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Dual Install 97 and 2000
>
>
> > You can install 97 after.  Rename hatten.ttf before you try it, and you
> > may have to reinstall 2000 afterward, retaining 97, to get the file type
> > associations right.
> >
> > Charlotte Foust
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mark Whittinghill [mailto:mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 1:17 PM
> > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] Dual Install 97 and 2000
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> >   I have 2000 on my machine, and would like to add 97.  Can I just
> > install 97 then fix the hatten.ttf problem, or do I need to uninstall
> > 2000 first, install 97 then reinstall 2000?
> >
> > Mark Whittinghill
> > Symphony Information Services
> > 763-391-7400
> > mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com
> >
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From chizotz at mchsi.com  Fri Apr 23 11:28:36 2004
From: chizotz at mchsi.com (chizotz at mchsi.com)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 16:28:36 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Extract Oracle Schema Information
Message-ID: <042320041628.9114.4172@mchsi.com>

I know this is pretty far afield, but I could sure use some help. Pointers to 
help would be great, no need for a big off-topic discussion here. Private 
emails also would be very welcome, either to chizotz at mchsi.com or 
rrallen at tribmail.com.

I have a huge (ca. 400 table, 250 view) Oracle database with no schema 
information available. Is there a utility somewhere that can pull out the 
table names, datatypes, and relationships quickly for me? I've tried reverse 
engineering it with Visio 2003, which is great except that it is so huge that 
Visio just creates a very messy and densly packed mess that will still take me 
days or even weeks to sort out. I do _not_ have access to any Oracle tools and 
can not use SQL*Plus or anything like that. I can connect to this database via 
ODBC only.

Thanks for any suggestions,

Ron Allen
Circulation Systems Administrator
Columbia Daily Tribune
573-815-1604
rrallen at tribmail.com


From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Fri Apr 23 11:45:46 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 12:45:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
Message-ID: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F99030FE7E8@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com>

Thanks.  I probably should have added 2002 to my request (we're moving from A97 to 2003 shortly).

Jim D.

-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 11:31 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question


I don't have it yet.  My understanding is that there is almost nothing
new in 2003, since it is still based on VBA6 and has no hooks to VB.net.
Raising custom events came in with 2002.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org] 
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 6:18 AM
To: AccessD (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question


Just a quick and easy question.  What's new in advanced coding features
in Access 2003?  We have enums but can we raise events?  Can we design
and use a class as an Interface?   Is there anything else from VB that
might have been added?

TIA,

Jim DeMarco
Director Application Development
Hudson Health Plan




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From Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us  Fri Apr 23 11:48:39 2004
From: Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us (O'Connor, Patricia  )
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 12:48:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Extract Oracle Schema Information
Message-ID: <B94C79B465542042AB0748EAF37F9AC024A6CB@EXCNYSM0A1AB.nysemail.nyenet>

Create an Access Passthru query to use the native oracle syntax for
viewing Oracle database/table properties.

http://tahiti.oracle.com/pls/db92/db92.drilldown?book=a96525&remark=doci
ndex&expand_all=1 

will give you the 9i documentation search engine - watch wrapping

HTH
Patti

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*OTDA - BDMA
*(W) mailto:Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us
*(w) mailto:aa1160 at dfa.state.ny.us
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> chizotz at mchsi.com
> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 12:29 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] OT: Extract Oracle Schema Information
> 
> I know this is pretty far afield, but I could sure use some 
> help. Pointers to help would be great, no need for a big 
> off-topic discussion here. Private emails also would be very 
> welcome, either to chizotz at mchsi.com or rrallen at tribmail.com.
> 
> I have a huge (ca. 400 table, 250 view) Oracle database with 
> no schema information available. Is there a utility somewhere 
> that can pull out the table names, datatypes, and 
> relationships quickly for me? I've tried reverse engineering 
> it with Visio 2003, which is great except that it is so huge 
> that Visio just creates a very messy and densly packed mess 
> that will still take me days or even weeks to sort out. I do 
> _not_ have access to any Oracle tools and can not use 
> SQL*Plus or anything like that. I can connect to this 
> database via ODBC only.
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions,
> 
> Ron Allen
> Circulation Systems Administrator
> Columbia Daily Tribune
> 573-815-1604
> rrallen at tribmail.com
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr 23 11:48:07 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 18:48:07 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Extract Oracle Schema Information
In-Reply-To: <042320041628.9114.4172@mchsi.com>
References: <042320041628.9114.4172@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <3736252137.20040423184807@cactus.dk>

Hi Ron

Have a look at:

  http://www.thekompany.com/products/dataarchitect/

  http://www.thekompany.com/products/dbradar/

and Dezign for databases:

  http://www.datanamic.com/

/gustav


> I have a huge (ca. 400 table, 250 view) Oracle database with no schema
> information available. Is there a utility somewhere that can pull out the 
> table names, datatypes, and relationships quickly for me? I've tried reverse 
> engineering it with Visio 2003, which is great except that it is so huge that 
> Visio just creates a very messy and densly packed mess that will still take me 
> days or even weeks to sort out. I do _not_ have access to any Oracle tools and 
> can not use SQL*Plus or anything like that. I can connect to this database via 
> ODBC only.

> Thanks for any suggestions,

> Ron Allen
> Circulation Systems Administrator
> Columbia Daily Tribune
> 573-815-1604
> rrallen at tribmail.com



From Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us  Fri Apr 23 11:55:12 2004
From: Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us (O'Connor, Patricia  )
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 12:55:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
Message-ID: <B94C79B465542042AB0748EAF37F9AC024A6CC@EXCNYSM0A1AB.nysemail.nyenet>

Jim,

I am in the same boat and have several A97 applications I have to bring
up to 2003. I just got A2000 a little bit ago, so am upgrading them to
that first.

I did find that the first A97 one I tried to bring into 2003 will not
even open. Keeps telling me the code is corrupt and I have decompiled
and compiled the thing 3 times. My machine has A97 & 2000, So, they gave
me a machine with 2000 and 2003 on it. 

Have NO idea what I may be missing

So, let me know when you run into anything and I will gladly do the same
if you would like.

Patti

******************************************************************
*Patricia O'Connor
*Associate Computer Programmer Analyst
*OTDA - BDMA
*(W) mailto:Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us
*(w) mailto:aa1160 at dfa.state.ny.us
******************************************************************
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 12:46 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
> 
> Thanks.  I probably should have added 2002 to my request 
> (we're moving from A97 to 2003 shortly).
> 
> Jim D.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 11:31 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
> 
> 
> I don't have it yet.  My understanding is that there is 
> almost nothing new in 2003, since it is still based on VBA6 
> and has no hooks to VB.net.
> Raising custom events came in with 2002.
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org]
> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 6:18 AM
> To: AccessD (E-mail)
> Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
> 
> 
> Just a quick and easy question.  What's new in advanced 
> coding features
> in Access 2003?  We have enums but can we raise events?  Can we design
> and use a class as an Interface?   Is there anything else from VB that
> might have been added?
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Jim DeMarco
> Director Application Development
> Hudson Health Plan
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Apr 23 12:07:33 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 12:07:33 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Accidentally Modified SYSTEM.MDA without Backup
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227B0A@main2.marlow.com>

I'm sorry I didn't catch this before.  There is no need to 'reinstall' your
system.mdw.  Click start-->Run then type wrkgadmn.  That will bring up the
work group administrator.  

Click the 'Create' button.  Then simply make a new system.mdw.  

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dick Abo
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 1:29 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Cc: orthorabod at yahoo.com
Subject: [AccessD] Accidentally Modified SYSTEM.MDA without Backup


Hi All,
While examining a file (chapter 14) from the CD in the Access97 ADH, I
opened the change password form and although I did not enter or change
passwords, I am no longer able to use any of my Access 2K files. (The old
and new Passwords were blank in the dialog box.)  I now get prompted with
the Logon Dialog box that asks for the Administrator password, for every
Access application that I attempt to use.

Short of re-installing the SYSTEM.MDW from the installation CD, is there
another quick way to rectify this problem?  (I did not make a backup of the
SYSTEM.MDW file but plan to do so from now on and my installation CD is
currently unavailable.)  

I was previously not using the Security Workgroups feature of Access, but
now it appears that I may have to....

 Many thanks in advance.



		
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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Fri Apr 23 12:35:35 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 13:35:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
Message-ID: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F99030FE7E9@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com>

Patti,

Thanks.  I'd be glad to keep everyone posted.  So far the only issues we've had are with the security warnings ("unsafe expressions not blocked").

Jim D.

-----Original Message-----
From: O'Connor, Patricia [mailto:Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us]
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 12:55 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question


Jim,

I am in the same boat and have several A97 applications I have to bring
up to 2003. I just got A2000 a little bit ago, so am upgrading them to
that first.

I did find that the first A97 one I tried to bring into 2003 will not
even open. Keeps telling me the code is corrupt and I have decompiled
and compiled the thing 3 times. My machine has A97 & 2000, So, they gave
me a machine with 2000 and 2003 on it. 

Have NO idea what I may be missing

So, let me know when you run into anything and I will gladly do the same
if you would like.

Patti

******************************************************************
*Patricia O'Connor
*Associate Computer Programmer Analyst
*OTDA - BDMA
*(W) mailto:Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us
*(w) mailto:aa1160 at dfa.state.ny.us
******************************************************************
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 12:46 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
> 
> Thanks.  I probably should have added 2002 to my request 
> (we're moving from A97 to 2003 shortly).
> 
> Jim D.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 11:31 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
> 
> 
> I don't have it yet.  My understanding is that there is 
> almost nothing new in 2003, since it is still based on VBA6 
> and has no hooks to VB.net.
> Raising custom events came in with 2002.
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org]
> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 6:18 AM
> To: AccessD (E-mail)
> Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
> 
> 
> Just a quick and easy question.  What's new in advanced 
> coding features
> in Access 2003?  We have enums but can we raise events?  Can we design
> and use a class as an Interface?   Is there anything else from VB that
> might have been added?
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Jim DeMarco
> Director Application Development
> Hudson Health Plan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> **************************************************************
> **********
> ***********
> "This electronic message is intended to be for the use only 
> of the named
> recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP)
> that is confidential or privileged.  If you are not the intended
> recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying,
> distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly
> prohibited.  If you have received this message in error or are not the
> named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by 
> contacting the
> sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at
> (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not
> forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all 
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> message.  Thank You".
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> 
> 
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> the contents of this message is strictly prohibited.  If you 
> have received this message in error or are not the named 
> recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting 
> the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or 
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> recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and 
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Apr 23 13:06:49 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 11:06:49 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Extract Oracle Schema Information
References: <042320041628.9114.4172@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <40895B39.4030109@shaw.ca>

You could try one of these UML modeling tools to reverse engineer 
Oracle, Does SQL and Access as well
They both have 30 day trials and are reasonably priced under $500. I 
have used EA only for looks at large Access databases to workout ER diagrams
Enterprise Architect
http://www.sparxsystems.com.au/ea_faq.htm
or
Case Studio 2
http://www.casestudio.com/enu/

chizotz at mchsi.com wrote:

>I know this is pretty far afield, but I could sure use some help. Pointers to 
>help would be great, no need for a big off-topic discussion here. Private 
>emails also would be very welcome, either to chizotz at mchsi.com or 
>rrallen at tribmail.com.
>
>I have a huge (ca. 400 table, 250 view) Oracle database with no schema 
>information available. Is there a utility somewhere that can pull out the 
>table names, datatypes, and relationships quickly for me? I've tried reverse 
>engineering it with Visio 2003, which is great except that it is so huge that 
>Visio just creates a very messy and densly packed mess that will still take me 
>days or even weeks to sort out. I do _not_ have access to any Oracle tools and 
>can not use SQL*Plus or anything like that. I can connect to this database via 
>ODBC only.
>
>Thanks for any suggestions,
>
>Ron Allen
>Circulation Systems Administrator
>Columbia Daily Tribune
>573-815-1604
>rrallen at tribmail.com
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From KIsmert at TexasSystems.com  Fri Apr 23 13:23:17 2004
From: KIsmert at TexasSystems.com (Ken Ismert)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 13:23:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] VB6 DLL Help Required
In-Reply-To: <28557687.1082707352738.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>
Message-ID: <000001c42960$0d648ff0$2a3ca8c0@TEXASSYSTEMS.COM>


> This is the code I used for my DLL
<snip>

OK, that looks good. But, how are you using your DLL on the client side? You
can either use a Declare statement to define your SendMail call, or you can
register your DLL as a COM component and use it as an object.

For the latter to work, you will need to do one of two things:

 A. Define a callback interface to pass to your SendMail function. This
would require a PublicNotCreatable class in your DLL that defines the
'events' you want to send back to the caller.

 B. Convert your SendMail function to a class with its own events. Your
SendMail class would trap the vbSendMail events and re-raise them to your
client. The client would create, use and destroy your SendMail object just
like any other.

Do either of these options appeal to you?

-Ken



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Apr 23 13:54:25 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 11:54:25 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
References: <22F1CCD5171D17419CB37FEEE09D5F99030FE7E9@TTNEXCHSRV1.hshhp.com>
Message-ID: <40896661.9060509@shaw.ca>

Some changes for Access 2003 to note

Unsafe Expressions - Macro Security In Access 2003  Author: Garry 
Robinson  Need for Jet SP 8 install especially for known security exploits.
http://www.vb123.com/toolshed/03_access/unsafeExpressions.htm

Best Practices When Using Microsoft Office Access 2003 in a Multi-user 
Environment
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/odc_ac2003_ta/html/odc_acmultibest.asp

Using the XML Features of the Microsoft Office Access 2003 and Microsoft 
Office Excel 2003 Object Models
also covers Export an Access Report to XML using ReportML
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dno2k3ta/html/odc_acxlom.asp

Importing and Exporting XSD Data in Microsoft Office Access 2003
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/odc_ac2003_ta/html/odc_acmultibest.asp

Code Signing Office XP Visual Basic for Applications Macro Projects
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnoxpta/html/odc_dsvba.asp

The Definitive "Hello World" Managed Smart Document Tutorial
http://www.msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnofftalk/html/office09042003.asp

Build with Access 2003 Developer Extensions Packaging Wizard
http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/technologyinfo/devtools/accessextensions/default.aspx

Office 2003 Security Enhancements
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/office/office2003/deploy/secdesn.mspx

watch the little darlings out there don't start using this willy nilly
Information Rights Management in Office Professional Edition 2003
http://www.microsoft.com/office/editions/prodinfo/technologies/irm.mspx

Jim DeMarco wrote:

>Patti,
>
>Thanks.  I'd be glad to keep everyone posted.  So far the only issues we've had are with the security warnings ("unsafe expressions not blocked").
>
>Jim D.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: O'Connor, Patricia [mailto:Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us]
>Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 12:55 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
>
>
>Jim,
>
>I am in the same boat and have several A97 applications I have to bring
>up to 2003. I just got A2000 a little bit ago, so am upgrading them to
>that first.
>
>I did find that the first A97 one I tried to bring into 2003 will not
>even open. Keeps telling me the code is corrupt and I have decompiled
>and compiled the thing 3 times. My machine has A97 & 2000, So, they gave
>me a machine with 2000 and 2003 on it. 
>
>Have NO idea what I may be missing
>
>So, let me know when you run into anything and I will gladly do the same
>if you would like.
>
>Patti
>
>******************************************************************
>*Patricia O'Connor
>*Associate Computer Programmer Analyst
>*OTDA - BDMA
>*(W) mailto:Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us
>*(w) mailto:aa1160 at dfa.state.ny.us
>******************************************************************
> 
>
>  
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>>Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 12:46 PM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
>>
>>Thanks.  I probably should have added 2002 to my request 
>>(we're moving from A97 to 2003 shortly).
>>
>>Jim D.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
>>Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 11:31 AM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
>>
>>
>>I don't have it yet.  My understanding is that there is 
>>almost nothing new in 2003, since it is still based on VBA6 
>>and has no hooks to VB.net.
>>Raising custom events came in with 2002.
>>
>>Charlotte Foust
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org]
>>Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 6:18 AM
>>To: AccessD (E-mail)
>>Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
>>
>>
>>Just a quick and easy question.  What's new in advanced 
>>coding features
>>in Access 2003?  We have enums but can we raise events?  Can we design
>>and use a class as an Interface?   Is there anything else from VB that
>>might have been added?
>>
>>TIA,
>>
>>Jim DeMarco
>>Director Application Development
>>Hudson Health Plan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>**************************************************************
>>**********
>>***********
>>"This electronic message is intended to be for the use only 
>>of the named
>>recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP)
>>that is confidential or privileged.  If you are not the intended
>>recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying,
>>distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly
>>prohibited.  If you have received this message in error or are not the
>>named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by 
>>contacting the
>>sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at
>>(914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not
>>forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all 
>>copies of this
>>message.  Thank You".
>>**************************************************************
>>**********
>>***********
>>
>>-- 
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>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>**************************************************************
>>*********************
>>"This electronic message is intended to be for the use only 
>>of the named recipient, and may contain information from 
>>Hudson Health Plan (HHP) that is confidential or privileged.  
>>If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby 
>>notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of 
>>the contents of this message is strictly prohibited.  If you 
>>have received this message in error or are not the named 
>>recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting 
>>the sender at the electronic mail address noted above or 
>>calling HHP at (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended 
>>recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and 
>>delete and destroy all copies of this message.  Thank You".
>>**************************************************************
>>*********************
>>
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>>
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>>

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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Fri Apr 23 14:09:55 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Developer)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 15:09:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
In-Reply-To: <40896661.9060509@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <000a01c42966$93e8b140$6401a8c0@COA3>

And on a lighter, but positive note, those of us nearing 40 appreciate
that the font size in SQL view of the query designer is now adjustable
to a larger size in 2k3.

Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 2:54 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question


Some changes for Access 2003 to note

Unsafe Expressions - Macro Security In Access 2003  Author: Garry 
Robinson  Need for Jet SP 8 install especially for known security
exploits. http://www.vb123.com/toolshed/03_access/unsafeExpressions.htm

Best Practices When Using Microsoft Office Access 2003 in a Multi-user 
Environment
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/odc_ac2
003_ta/html/odc_acmultibest.asp

Using the XML Features of the Microsoft Office Access 2003 and Microsoft

Office Excel 2003 Object Models
also covers Export an Access Report to XML using ReportML
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dno2k3t
a/html/odc_acxlom.asp

Importing and Exporting XSD Data in Microsoft Office Access 2003
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/odc_ac2
003_ta/html/odc_acmultibest.asp

Code Signing Office XP Visual Basic for Applications Macro Projects
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnoxpta
/html/odc_dsvba.asp

The Definitive "Hello World" Managed Smart Document Tutorial
http://www.msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dno
fftalk/html/office09042003.asp

Build with Access 2003 Developer Extensions Packaging Wizard
http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/technologyinfo/devtools/accessextension
s/default.aspx

Office 2003 Security Enhancements
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/office/office2003/deploy/se
cdesn.mspx

watch the little darlings out there don't start using this willy nilly
Information Rights Management in Office Professional Edition 2003
http://www.microsoft.com/office/editions/prodinfo/technologies/irm.mspx

Jim DeMarco wrote:

>Patti,
>
>Thanks.  I'd be glad to keep everyone posted.  So far the only issues 
>we've had are with the security warnings ("unsafe expressions not 
>blocked").
>
>Jim D.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: O'Connor, Patricia [mailto:Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us]
>Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 12:55 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
>
>
>Jim,
>
>I am in the same boat and have several A97 applications I have to bring

>up to 2003. I just got A2000 a little bit ago, so am upgrading them to 
>that first.
>
>I did find that the first A97 one I tried to bring into 2003 will not 
>even open. Keeps telling me the code is corrupt and I have decompiled 
>and compiled the thing 3 times. My machine has A97 & 2000, So, they 
>gave me a machine with 2000 and 2003 on it.
>
>Have NO idea what I may be missing
>
>So, let me know when you run into anything and I will gladly do the 
>same if you would like.
>
>Patti
>
>******************************************************************
>*Patricia O'Connor
>*Associate Computer Programmer Analyst
>*OTDA - BDMA
>*(W) mailto:Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us
>*(w) mailto:aa1160 at dfa.state.ny.us
>******************************************************************
> 
>
>  
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>>Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 12:46 PM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
>>
>>Thanks.  I probably should have added 2002 to my request
>>(we're moving from A97 to 2003 shortly).
>>
>>Jim D.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
>>Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 11:31 AM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
>>
>>
>>I don't have it yet.  My understanding is that there is
>>almost nothing new in 2003, since it is still based on VBA6 
>>and has no hooks to VB.net.
>>Raising custom events came in with 2002.
>>
>>Charlotte Foust
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org]
>>Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 6:18 AM
>>To: AccessD (E-mail)
>>Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
>>
>>
>>Just a quick and easy question.  What's new in advanced
>>coding features
>>in Access 2003?  We have enums but can we raise events?  Can we design
>>and use a class as an Interface?   Is there anything else from VB that
>>might have been added?
>>
>>TIA,
>>
>>Jim DeMarco
>>Director Application Development
>>Hudson Health Plan
>>
>>
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From MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com  Fri Apr 23 14:55:44 2004
From: MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com (Mark Boyd)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 15:55:44 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] AfterUpdate not working
Message-ID: <B408574ACAFCAE49BEE6B626C3CD9F2D7932@wpamail2k.mcbassoc.com>

This is very strange.  I have code in the After_Update event of a text
box.

If I type something into the box, then tab out, the code does not fire.
If I go back into the textbox and re-type something and tab, then code
fires.

But, if I put a breakpoint in the code, it hits it everytime.

 

Any ideas?

 

Thanks,

Mark Boyd

Sr. Systems Analyst

McBee Associates, Inc.

 



From Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com  Fri Apr 23 15:48:21 2004
From: Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com (Pickering, Stephen)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 15:48:21 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] AfterUpdate not working
Message-ID: <CF0EA31794DDD611ADDC00065B88640C039A2F9E@s98027.psd.caremark.int>

Are you using On Error Resume Next in your error handler?

Just a thought....

Steve

-----Mark Boyd's Original Message-----

This is very strange.  I have code in the After_Update event of a text
box.

If I type something into the box, then tab out, the code does not fire.
If I go back into the textbox and re-type something and tab, then code
fires.

But, if I put a breakpoint in the code, it hits it everytime.

 

Any ideas?

 

Thanks,

Mark Boyd

Sr. Systems Analyst

McBee Associates, Inc.


From MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com  Fri Apr 23 15:52:02 2004
From: MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com (Mark Boyd)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 16:52:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] AfterUpdate not working
Message-ID: <B408574ACAFCAE49BEE6B626C3CD9F2D3B36CF@wpamail2k.mcbassoc.com>

No, its doesn't resume next.
I think I'm gonna re-create the form.  There may be something corrupt
within it.

Thanks,
Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Pickering, Stephen [mailto:Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 4:48 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] AfterUpdate not working

Are you using On Error Resume Next in your error handler?

Just a thought....

Steve

-----Mark Boyd's Original Message-----

This is very strange.  I have code in the After_Update event of a text
box.

If I type something into the box, then tab out, the code does not fire.
If I go back into the textbox and re-type something and tab, then code
fires.

But, if I put a breakpoint in the code, it hits it everytime.

 

Any ideas?

 

Thanks,

Mark Boyd

Sr. Systems Analyst

McBee Associates, Inc.
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sat Apr 24 00:58:47 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 22:58:47 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K MDE on A2002
Message-ID: <025d01c429c1$35f78f60$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Dear List:

I had a client call this morning installing a system at a customer site. He took the mdb which was created in A2000, made an mde in A2000, then put that mde on the customer's machine which was running A2002.  It failed on opening the first form with an error that indicated either a compile error or a missing reference.

So I had him put the A2000 mdb on the A2002 machine.  Compiled fine.  No missing references.  But the 'Make an MDE' button was grayed out.  So I had him convert this A2000 MDB to A2003.  Then he could make an MDE and it ran just fine.

So is it the case that an A2000 MDE will not run on A2002 (or A2003)?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com



From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Apr 24 04:49:30 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 11:49:30 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
In-Reply-To: <000a01c42966$93e8b140$6401a8c0@COA3>
References: <000a01c42966$93e8b140$6401a8c0@COA3>
Message-ID: <1606658304.20040424114930@cactus.dk>

Hi Steve

> And on a lighter, but positive note, those of us nearing 40 appreciate
> that the font size in SQL view of the query designer is now adjustable
> to a larger size in 2k3.

Strange, I can easily match that qualification, but I adjusted it
down and to normal ...

/gustav



From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Sat Apr 24 06:24:54 2004
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 12:24:54 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT SQL Server
References: <000a01c42966$93e8b140$6401a8c0@COA3>
	<1606658304.20040424114930@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <003301c429ee$c63df140$1b02a8c0@MARTINREID>

This is going to make me look stupid again (<:

Does a Unique Constraint equate to a non clustered index??

In the table properties for an upsized table the index property shows a
unique constraint. When I get out the table using the following I get an
indication of a non clustered index.

DBCC TRACEON (3604)
GO

Declare @DBID Int, @TableID Int
Select @DBID = db_id(), @TableID = object_id('testtable')

DBCC ind(@DBID, @TableID, -1)
GO

All the documentation says a non clustered index is created. But if the
wizard creates a unique constraint as opposed to a non clustered index this
I need to know. Or is this the same thing???

Any comments appreciated.

Martin



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Apr 24 07:19:03 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 08:19:03 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K MDE on A2002
In-Reply-To: <025d01c429c1$35f78f60$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPGEAFHGAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Rocky,

I think that this is exactly what is going on.  I use a lib as you know.  At
one client I have a mix of systems running A2K, AXP and A2003.  I develop in
A2K.  The non A2K systems REQUIRE a recompile of the lib AND the MDB that
uses the lib before they will run.  I get a page fault otherwise.

I do know that AXP and above install a new version of VB6.  It appears that
this new DLL "breaks" the A2K apps.  Recompiling with AXP uses that VB6 DLL
and "fixes" whatever the problem is.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 1:59 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] A2K MDE on A2002


Dear List:

I had a client call this morning installing a system at a customer site. He
took the mdb which was created in A2000, made an mde in A2000, then put that
mde on the customer's machine which was running A2002.  It failed on opening
the first form with an error that indicated either a compile error or a
missing reference.

So I had him put the A2000 mdb on the A2002 machine.  Compiled fine.  No
missing references.  But the 'Make an MDE' button was grayed out.  So I had
him convert this A2000 MDB to A2003.  Then he could make an MDE and it ran
just fine.

So is it the case that an A2000 MDE will not run on A2002 (or A2003)?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com

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From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Sat Apr 24 07:41:50 2004
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 07:41:50 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Zip + 4 + foreign phones
Message-ID: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D678@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>

Does anyone have the Zip Codes with the + 4? I have a table with 54,000 zip
codes - but the user wants the +4.

Also, I know there has been a lot of messages over the years about foreign
(other countries besides US) phone numbers. This is the first time I have
had to use foreign numbers. How are they formatted?

Oh, which makes me think - are foreign zip codes different too? Does anyone
have a table with foreign zip codes too?

Virginia


From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Apr 24 07:51:27 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 14:51:27 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Zip + 4 + foreign phones
In-Reply-To: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D678@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>
References: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D678@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <8317575291.20040424145127@cactus.dk>

Hi Virginia

Go to Graham Rhind's site and research the links:

  http://www.grcdi.nl/

This will easily keep you busy for a week or so!

/gustav


> Does anyone have the Zip Codes with the + 4? I have a table with 54,000 zip
> codes - but the user wants the +4.

> Also, I know there has been a lot of messages over the years about foreign
> (other countries besides US) phone numbers. This is the first time I have
> had to use foreign numbers. How are they formatted?

> Oh, which makes me think - are foreign zip codes different too? Does anyone
> have a table with foreign zip codes too?

> Virginia



From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Sat Apr 24 07:54:06 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 08:54:06 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Zip + 4 + foreign phones
References: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D678@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <001901c429fb$3a5bee90$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...foreign numbers and postal codes vary tremendously, often even within the
same country ...the only solution I've found is to code for country/region
individually.

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hollis,Virginia" <HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com>
To: <accessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 8:41 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Zip + 4 + foreign phones


> Does anyone have the Zip Codes with the + 4? I have a table with 54,000
zip
> codes - but the user wants the +4.
>
> Also, I know there has been a lot of messages over the years about foreign
> (other countries besides US) phone numbers. This is the first time I have
> had to use foreign numbers. How are they formatted?
>
> Oh, which makes me think - are foreign zip codes different too? Does
anyone
> have a table with foreign zip codes too?
>
> Virginia
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From billmorrill at comcast.net  Sat Apr 24 08:42:36 2004
From: billmorrill at comcast.net (Bill Morrill)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 07:42:36 -0600
Subject: [Accessd] Running a report each Wednesday at 10:00 am 
Message-ID: <000201c42a02$a90736e0$21170818@Morrill>

Anybody point me in a direction here?  How does one run an A2K report once a week -say on Wednesday at 10:00AM - without human intervention?   Access will be up and running in a particular database, in a particular form when the time trigger is go off.  

Thank you.

Bill

From scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com  Sat Apr 24 08:49:23 2004
From: scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com (Steve Capistrant)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 08:49:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
In-Reply-To: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227AE0@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <MJEFLPNLACJJDBCHNLAGIELOECAA.scapistrant@symphonyinfo.com>

Drew, is it still possible to get a copy of your OLD version in the
meantime?

Steve Capistrant
Symphony Information Services
scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
www.symphonyinfo.com
Phone: 763-391-7400
7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132, Brooklyn Park, MN 55428

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 9:48 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion


You're quite welcome.  As soon as life settles down, I'll finish up the new
version.  Which is keyboard friendly too!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 5:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion


> I use a modified version of Drew's old mini-calendar which is all VBA,
dead reliable, and very fast.
Ditto (and thanks to Drew)

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk





From jmoss111 at bellsouth.net  Sat Apr 24 09:43:25 2004
From: jmoss111 at bellsouth.net (JMoss)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 09:43:25 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Zip + 4 + foreign phones
In-Reply-To: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D678@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <OKEMICJGPJCMJCCHGNDEKEAMCEAA.jmoss111@bellsouth.net>

The USPS has the total database and you can subscribe to it. Several
companies have such a US/CA product + address correction, FIPS codes and
NCOA registry service, I'm not sure of the pricing but it's not cheap. I use
to work for a CRM company and we used PostalSoft to aid in client's direct
mail advertising.

We didn't do anything but North American mailing, so I have no idea about
vendors of foreign postal service software.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 7:42 AM
To: 'accessD at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: [AccessD] Zip + 4 + foreign phones


Does anyone have the Zip Codes with the + 4? I have a table with 54,000 zip
codes - but the user wants the +4.

Also, I know there has been a lot of messages over the years about foreign
(other countries besides US) phone numbers. This is the first time I have
had to use foreign numbers. How are they formatted?

Oh, which makes me think - are foreign zip codes different too? Does anyone
have a table with foreign zip codes too?

Virginia
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Apr 24 10:13:04 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 11:13:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Zip + 4 + foreign phones
In-Reply-To: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D678@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPMEAGHGAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

>This is the first time I have had to use foreign numbers. How are they
formatted?

Any way they want to!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 8:42 AM
To: 'accessD at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: [AccessD] Zip + 4 + foreign phones


Does anyone have the Zip Codes with the + 4? I have a table with 54,000 zip
codes - but the user wants the +4.

Also, I know there has been a lot of messages over the years about foreign
(other countries besides US) phone numbers. This is the first time I have
had to use foreign numbers. How are they formatted?

Oh, which makes me think - are foreign zip codes different too? Does anyone
have a table with foreign zip codes too?

Virginia
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Apr 24 11:07:20 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 09:07:20 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K MDE on A2002
In-Reply-To: <025d01c429c1$35f78f60$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIIEPCCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Rocky:

I have found that you have to recompile and reattach the references so you
can migrate an application to XP on XP O/S. That is why you have a number of
computers in your shop all running different versions of Windows....

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 10:59 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] A2K MDE on A2002


Dear List:

I had a client call this morning installing a system at a customer site. He
took the mdb which was created in A2000, made an mde in A2000, then put that
mde on the customer's machine which was running A2002.  It failed on opening
the first form with an error that indicated either a compile error or a
missing reference.

So I had him put the A2000 mdb on the A2002 machine.  Compiled fine.  No
missing references.  But the 'Make an MDE' button was grayed out.  So I had
him convert this A2000 MDB to A2003.  Then he could make an MDE and it ran
just fine.

So is it the case that an A2000 MDE will not run on A2002 (or A2003)?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com

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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Sat Apr 24 11:16:44 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 17:16:44 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Zip + 4 + foreign phones
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPMEAGHGAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <003601c42a17$890f1d20$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

> Any way they want to!

ROTFL

And regarding:
> are foreign zip codes different too

Oddly enough Virginia all of us foreign countries haven't decided to adopt
US zip code formats any more than we've come into line with US phone
numbers. Damned inconsiderate I know but there are nearly 200 of us
(countries that is) and it's a tad tricky getting agreement. ;-)  In fact
'foreign zip codes' is a bit of an oxymoron because I don't know how many
countries even use that term. I believe the generic term is postal code. 

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> John W. Colby
> Sent: 24 April 2004 16:13
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Zip + 4 + foreign phones
> 
> 
> >This is the first time I have had to use foreign numbers. 
> How are they
> formatted?
> 
> Any way they want to!
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of 
> Hollis,Virginia
> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 8:42 AM
> To: 'accessD at databaseadvisors.com'
> Subject: [AccessD] Zip + 4 + foreign phones
> 
> 
> Does anyone have the Zip Codes with the + 4? I have a table 
> with 54,000 zip codes - but the user wants the +4.
> 
> Also, I know there has been a lot of messages over the years 
> about foreign (other countries besides US) phone numbers. 
> This is the first time I have had to use foreign numbers. How 
> are they formatted?
> 
> Oh, which makes me think - are foreign zip codes different 
> too? Does anyone have a table with foreign zip codes too?
> 
> Virginia
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From chizotz at mchsi.com  Sat Apr 24 13:26:36 2004
From: chizotz at mchsi.com (Ron Allen)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 13:26:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Extract Oracle Schema Information
In-Reply-To: <40895B39.4030109@shaw.ca>
References: <042320041628.9114.4172@mchsi.com> <40895B39.4030109@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <72800818.20040424132636@mchsi.com>

Thanks Gustav, Patricai, and Marty. I'll look into your suggestions
Monday :)

Ron




From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Sat Apr 24 13:53:15 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Developer)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 14:53:15 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
In-Reply-To: <1606658304.20040424114930@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <000201c42a2d$6f2a3af0$6401a8c0@COA3>

Down? From 8 pts?


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 5:50 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question


Hi Steve

> And on a lighter, but positive note, those of us nearing 40 appreciate

> that the font size in SQL view of the query designer is now adjustable

> to a larger size in 2k3.

Strange, I can easily match that qualification, but I adjusted it down
and to normal ...

/gustav

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Apr 24 14:02:54 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 21:02:54 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
In-Reply-To: <000201c42a2d$6f2a3af0$6401a8c0@COA3>
References: <000201c42a2d$6f2a3af0$6401a8c0@COA3>
Message-ID: <14439861658.20040424210254@cactus.dk>

Hi Steve

> Down? From 8 pts?

Ahh, no, down relative to the old fixed setting.

/gustav


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 5:50 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question


> Hi Steve

>> And on a lighter, but positive note, those of us nearing 40 appreciate

>> that the font size in SQL view of the query designer is now adjustable

>> to a larger size in 2k3.

> Strange, I can easily match that qualification, but I adjusted it down
> and to normal ...



From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Sat Apr 24 14:23:50 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Developer)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 15:23:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
In-Reply-To: <14439861658.20040424210254@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <000301c42a31$b7ce9630$6401a8c0@COA3>

Hmmm.. You must be talking about 97's fixed size which was legible ...
Take a look a 2k2's TINY sql view LOL



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 3:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question


Hi Steve

> Down? From 8 pts?

Ahh, no, down relative to the old fixed setting.

/gustav


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav 
> Brock
> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 5:50 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question


> Hi Steve

>> And on a lighter, but positive note, those of us nearing 40 
>> appreciate

>> that the font size in SQL view of the query designer is now 
>> adjustable

>> to a larger size in 2k3.

> Strange, I can easily match that qualification, but I adjusted it down

> and to normal ...

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Apr 24 18:35:45 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 09:35:45 +1000
Subject: [Accessd] Running a report each Wednesday at 10:00 am 
In-Reply-To: <000201c42a02$a90736e0$21170818@Morrill>
Message-ID: <408B8671.31045.16737F@localhost>

On 24 Apr 2004 at 7:42, Bill Morrill wrote:

> Anybody point me in a direction here?  How does one run an A2K report
> once a week -say on Wednesday at 10:00AM - without human intervention?
>   Access will be up and running in a particular database, in a
> particular form when the time trigger is go off.  
> 

The best way is to NOT rely on the Access application being up and 
running. (One day someone *will* close it down or it will crash).

I have several Access apps which run unattended (they generate and 
email reports in the early hours of the morning).

They way I do it is create a function in an mdb file to print the 
report(s), email it or whatever followed by a Quit command.

Then I call that function as the argument of an Autoexec macro.

FInally I use a task scheduler which opens the application at the 
appropriate time. (The built-in MS scheduler or the AT command works 
fine for this)



 
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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sat Apr 24 19:54:14 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 17:54:14 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] cbo after adding data question solved
In-Reply-To: <20040420091903.C4D9D2537F4@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <000c01c42a5f$d47e6750$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

It is the cbo.requery that I needed. Thanks

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 3:19 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] cbo after adding data question

Hi Joe

If you have one or two places on the form which can add/alter records and
therefore require the cbo to be requeried then just add:

me!cboWhatever.Requery

at the end of those routines.

Alternatively, and as long as it doesn't cause too much of an overhead, you
can place:

me.ActiveControl.Requery

in the OnGotFocus of the combo itself. You may do more requeries than are
strictly necessary this way, but it pretty much ensures that the combo sees
everything it should.

--
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Subject: [AccessD] cbo after adding data question
Date: 20/04/04 06:53

>
> I have a combo box that pulls up matching records on a form. The data
source
> is a SQL statement not a query.
>
>
>
> After the record is entered where and how should I write the requry
> statement to add the record to the combo box?
>
>
>
> JOE HECHT
>
> LOS ANGELES CA
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Apr 24 20:20:19 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 21:20:19 -0400
Subject: [Accessd] Running a report each Wednesday at 10:00 am 
In-Reply-To: <408B8671.31045.16737F@localhost>
Message-ID: <MAEGKIDGFPDDHGNCGPGAKEKOCCAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Does the scheduler require a login?

JWC

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 7:36 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: Re: [Accessd] Running a report each Wednesday at 10:00 am 


On 24 Apr 2004 at 7:42, Bill Morrill wrote:

> Anybody point me in a direction here?  How does one run an A2K report
> once a week -say on Wednesday at 10:00AM - without human intervention?
>   Access will be up and running in a particular database, in a
> particular form when the time trigger is go off.  
> 

The best way is to NOT rely on the Access application being up and 
running. (One day someone *will* close it down or it will crash).

I have several Access apps which run unattended (they generate and 
email reports in the early hours of the morning).

They way I do it is create a function in an mdb file to print the 
report(s), email it or whatever followed by a Quit command.

Then I call that function as the argument of an Autoexec macro.

FInally I use a task scheduler which opens the application at the 
appropriate time. (The built-in MS scheduler or the AT command works 
fine for this)



 
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sun Apr 25 02:27:16 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 00:27:16 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Zip + 4 + foreign phones
References: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D678@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <408B6854.8080407@shaw.ca>

Starting point for International Addressing
http://www.upu.int/post_code/en/looking_information.html
http://www.upu.int/post_code/en/international_addressing.shtml
International Software 10 CD-ROMS
http://www.addressdoctor.com/en/FrameFile.asp?2-3+products/developers.htm
USPS online webService zip code lookup
http://www.usps.com/webtools/htm/Address-Information.htm

'canada("H0H 0H0") 'Santa Claus' zipcode or H0H-0H0
'British Postal code similar but extra digit
Function canada(txt) As Boolean
'verify Canada Postal Code also a couple of letters not used, first 
letter is Province V=BC
Dim i As Integer
Dim compare As Variant
For i = 1 To Len(txt) - 6
    compare = Mid(txt, i, 7)
    MsgBox compare
    If compare Like "*[a-z]#[a-z] #[a-z]#*" Then
        canada = True
    Else
        canada = False
    End If
Next
End Function

Foriegn phone numbers generally are 1-3 digit country code then 1-4 
digit city code (in US area code) then 4-6 digit number
The US Canada country code just happens to be 1
extra prefix digits are added in each country to get an international 
line or extra city line

Hollis,Virginia wrote:

>Does anyone have the Zip Codes with the + 4? I have a table with 54,000 zip
>codes - but the user wants the +4.
>
>Also, I know there has been a lot of messages over the years about foreign
>(other countries besides US) phone numbers. This is the first time I have
>had to use foreign numbers. How are they formatted?
>
>Oh, which makes me think - are foreign zip codes different too? Does anyone
>have a table with foreign zip codes too?
>
>Virginia
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Apr 25 02:44:56 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 09:44:56 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question
In-Reply-To: <000301c42a31$b7ce9630$6401a8c0@COA3>
References: <000301c42a31$b7ce9630$6401a8c0@COA3>
Message-ID: <1076574273.20040425094456@cactus.dk>

Hi Steve

> Hmmm.. You must be talking about 97's fixed size which was legible ...

Yes.

> Take a look a 2k2's TINY sql view LOL

In fact, that's what I prefer - except for the Courier font.

/gustav


>> Down? From 8 pts?

> Ahh, no, down relative to the old fixed setting.

> /gustav


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav 
>> Brock
>> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 5:50 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Quick A2K3 question


>> Hi Steve

>>> And on a lighter, but positive note, those of us nearing 40 
>>> appreciate

>>> that the font size in SQL view of the query designer is now 
>>> adjustable

>>> to a larger size in 2k3.

>> Strange, I can easily match that qualification, but I adjusted it down

>> and to normal ...



From pharryecoenen at btinternet.com  Sun Apr 25 05:36:17 2004
From: pharryecoenen at btinternet.com (Harry Coenen)
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 11:36:17 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Zip + 4 + foreign phones
In-Reply-To: <408B6854.8080407@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAL9Kwp6bii0K2NXFiQtqufcKAAAAQAAAAgx/j9QxKnEaXCLqtza0H1wEAAAAA@btinternet.com>

Hi 

Gustav and Martin already pointed you to some fairly decent reference works
on the subject
Thanks for http://www.grcdi.nl/ Gustav.

Postal codes:
Learning something from big accounting packages I usually include the
address as one big multiline field, used for address labels and two
additional fields for the two parts of a postal code which (in most cases)
make the code unique for a postal delivery point. You could use this as a
lookup (e.g. for invoices)

In the UK this would be:
postal code, e.g. WC1A 2HQ (for somewhere in London Westminster)
house number: 23
However, they still have the snobbish habit of quoting a building name
instead of the number in the street, in which case you cannot validate on
this.

AFAIK this is the case in most of Europe.

Validation of postal codes, is usually done by including the full tables of
avialable codes (e.g. in student records systems in use at universities),
though you can do something at your ow risk (like Martin did for Canada)
for the UK this would be:
AAnx nAA
A = Alpha
n = digit
x = alpha/digit/nothing


Phone numbers:
Until looking at the above site I was sure that something like
+ccc (r) nnnn NNNNNNN
would do the trick
where:
+  : indicates the number you have to dial for getting international access
(00 in the UK)
ccc : the country code (e.g. 1 for USA/Can or 44 for UK)
(r) : the national access code for interlocal calls (you don't dial this
when calling international or local, only national interlocal)
nnnn: the local area code (e.g. 20 for London or 1392 for Exeter)
NNNNNNN: the local phone number (you only dial this part when calling local)
So 5 fields, where the first could be derived from the country settings of
the machine, and the local area code for the machine should be stored if you
want to use it for dialing (though it doesn't hurt dialing the full
international number, the network understands it, but I am not sure if the
networks billing software thus).
The nnnnNNNNNNNN, actually cannot be more than 10 digits (some
standardisation effort).

The resulting number, e.g. +44(0)1234 123456 is fairly standard (at least in
Europe), even my mobile knows what to do with it.


Hope this is of any help

Cheers

Harry



From papparuff at comcast.net  Sun Apr 25 11:02:53 2004
From: papparuff at comcast.net (John Ruff)
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 09:02:53 -0700
Subject: [Accessd] Running a report each Wednesday at 10:00 am 
In-Reply-To: <000201c42a02$a90736e0$21170818@Morrill>
Message-ID: <001601c42ade$c480d3e0$6401a8c0@papparuff>

The Windows Task Scheduler is a great tool coupled with Access' startup
command-line options ("Startup command-line options" in help) are perfect
for what you want to do.

The Task Scheduler is used to open the Access program that runs the report
each Wed at 10:00 am and the command-line options tells the program to
perform the task when the command-line option is invoked.

When you start the task scheduler you will want to tell it where the
MSAccess program is and what database do you want to start.  Typically it
will look something like this: (careful about wordwrap)

"C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\MSACCESS.EXE"
"\\Blv2-dmt\LeadGen\BZUSPSMTA01\Import_BZTables_Ver_11_XP.mdb" /cmd Autorun

(In my sample line above I use the word Autorun as my command-line keyword
but you can use any word you want)

Next you will need to do some coding in your Access program to recognize the
cmd Autorun command-line option.  I typically use a hidden splash screen and
in the form's OnLoad Event I would place the code that would print the
report and then close the program once the printing is done.

Private Sub Form_Load()

   Dim strDocName As String

    If Command = "Autorun" Then
    
        ' Print the document       
        strDocName = "rpt_Metrics"
    	  DoCmd.OpenReport strDocName, acNormal
        ' Quit the program        
        DoCmd.Quit
        
    End If
    
End Sub 


John V. Ruff - The Eternal Optimist :-)

"Commit to the Lord whatever you do,
                and your plans will succeed." Proverbs 16:3



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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Morrill
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 6:43 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [Accessd] Running a report each Wednesday at 10:00 am


Anybody point me in a direction here?  How does one run an A2K report once a
week -say on Wednesday at 10:00AM - without human intervention?   Access
will be up and running in a particular database, in a particular form when
the time trigger is go off. 

Thank you.

Bill
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From pharryecoenen at btinternet.com  Sun Apr 25 12:43:57 2004
From: pharryecoenen at btinternet.com (Harry Coenen)
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 18:43:57 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Zip + 4 + foreign phones
In-Reply-To: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D678@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAL9Kwp6bii0K2NXFiQtqufcKAAAAQAAAAWNHObF1uokiEHZl0t1tbhAEAAAAA@btinternet.com>

Hi Virginia

Just to show how "inconsiderate" we bloody foreigners sometimes are:
1. addressing formats differ e.g.
in the UK: house number before street name
in the Netherlands or Germany: street name followed by house number

2. postal codes differ national and international, e.g.:
In the Netherlands they would use the local format: e.g. 1000 AE Amsterdam
Internationally you would be advised to use: NL-1000 AE Amsterdam

3. postal code + place differ, e.g.:
In the Netherlands: NL-1000 AE Amsterdam (on the same line)
In the UK: (some hamlet), Exeter, Devon, EX? ??? (usually on four different
lines, where the hamlet and county (Devon) may be omitted)

4. First name + Last name combinations differ, e.g.:
in Northern America and Europe: First Name before Last Name
in some Asian and Arabic countries the other way around.
The question is if the "Western" concept of first+last name applies
universally?

5. middle names differ, e.g.:
In the Netherlands: "Van den Bergh" would be sorted on "B" (unless the
person is of Anglo-American descent)
In the UK the same name would be sorted on "V"

6. First name (calling name) is not necessarily the first of the forenames.
This one is becoming more important recently, given more stringent visa
checking and security checks at airports.

7. Titles used in mail addressing differ, e.g. a female academic professor
mrs X with a PhD:
in the UK academic professors prefer to be addressed as: Professor X 
in some other European countries they are more happy with: Prof. Dr. Mrs. X
although they might differ on the dots (Prof. or Prof).

In short:
Name and Address probably should be treated as atomic attributes, only
differentiating the bulk of the data based on the most relevant conventions
and treating the rest as "non-standard".
standard name/address -> split in the usual (local) attributes
non-standard name/address -> no split but using the "addressing name"/full
address

Why should you care?
It all depends, e.g.
for judicial purposes you simply have to get it right according to the local
judicial principles, otherwise they have lost the case before they even get
to court
for marketing purposes your client probably doesn't want to put customers of
by wrong addressing, or even worse, by web forms that don't allow non-US
address formats (e.g. allowing Andorra as a country, while still insisting
on a US state as a required field)


Thanks for the question, I really like these puzzles which can only be
solved by some kind of a pragmatic choice.

Cheers

Harry



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Apr 25 19:20:14 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 20:20:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Zip + 4 + foreign phones
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAL9Kwp6bii0K2NXFiQtqufcKAAAAQAAAAWNHObF1uokiEHZl0t1tbhAEAAAAA@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPGEALHGAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Doesn't it just make you want to become part of the USA?

<grin, duck and run>

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Harry Coenen
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 1:44 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Zip + 4 + foreign phones


Hi Virginia

Just to show how "inconsiderate" we bloody foreigners sometimes are:
1. addressing formats differ e.g.
in the UK: house number before street name
in the Netherlands or Germany: street name followed by house number

2. postal codes differ national and international, e.g.:
In the Netherlands they would use the local format: e.g. 1000 AE Amsterdam
Internationally you would be advised to use: NL-1000 AE Amsterdam

3. postal code + place differ, e.g.:
In the Netherlands: NL-1000 AE Amsterdam (on the same line)
In the UK: (some hamlet), Exeter, Devon, EX? ??? (usually on four different
lines, where the hamlet and county (Devon) may be omitted)

4. First name + Last name combinations differ, e.g.:
in Northern America and Europe: First Name before Last Name
in some Asian and Arabic countries the other way around.
The question is if the "Western" concept of first+last name applies
universally?

5. middle names differ, e.g.:
In the Netherlands: "Van den Bergh" would be sorted on "B" (unless the
person is of Anglo-American descent)
In the UK the same name would be sorted on "V"

6. First name (calling name) is not necessarily the first of the forenames.
This one is becoming more important recently, given more stringent visa
checking and security checks at airports.

7. Titles used in mail addressing differ, e.g. a female academic professor
mrs X with a PhD:
in the UK academic professors prefer to be addressed as: Professor X
in some other European countries they are more happy with: Prof. Dr. Mrs. X
although they might differ on the dots (Prof. or Prof).

In short:
Name and Address probably should be treated as atomic attributes, only
differentiating the bulk of the data based on the most relevant conventions
and treating the rest as "non-standard".
standard name/address -> split in the usual (local) attributes
non-standard name/address -> no split but using the "addressing name"/full
address

Why should you care?
It all depends, e.g.
for judicial purposes you simply have to get it right according to the local
judicial principles, otherwise they have lost the case before they even get
to court
for marketing purposes your client probably doesn't want to put customers of
by wrong addressing, or even worse, by web forms that don't allow non-US
address formats (e.g. allowing Andorra as a country, while still insisting
on a US state as a required field)


Thanks for the question, I really like these puzzles which can only be
solved by some kind of a pragmatic choice.

Cheers

Harry

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From lmrazek at lcm-res.com  Sun Apr 25 19:22:34 2004
From: lmrazek at lcm-res.com (Lawrence Mrazek)
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 19:22:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP, Dbase Import error
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Message-ID: <001801c42b24$92e47800$036fa8c0@DellLaptop>

Hi:

I'm getting the following error message when trying to import a dbase file.
"The search key was not found in any record."  This only happens in Access
XP; for some reason, Access 97 imports the file without any problems. 

Has anyone encountered this error and if so, do you have any ideas on a
workaround?

Thanks in advance.

Larry Mrazek
LCM Research, Inc. 
ph. 314-432-5886
fx. 314-432-3304
lmrazek at lcm-res.com
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Apr 25 19:32:39 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 20:32:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP, Dbase Import error
In-Reply-To: <001801c42b24$92e47800$036fa8c0@DellLaptop>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPOEALHGAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Workaround...

Import it in A97.

<grin>



John W. Colby 
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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Mrazek
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 8:23 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP, Dbase Import error


Hi:

I'm getting the following error message when trying to import a dbase file.
"The search key was not found in any record."  This only happens in Access
XP; for some reason, Access 97 imports the file without any problems. 

Has anyone encountered this error and if so, do you have any ideas on a
workaround?

Thanks in advance.

Larry Mrazek
LCM Research, Inc. 
ph. 314-432-5886
fx. 314-432-3304
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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 26 00:22:49 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 22:22:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] OT SQL Question
In-Reply-To: <SIMEON.10404231137.B@TUG00001.fujin.qub.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <20040426052249.23200.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com>

Martin,
 
I've checked it out during the weekend (for a short while...it IS a weekend he). I don't see how you could create this using SQL. PERHAPS, using COMPUTE?! I'm not very familiar with this keyword.
 
To save a lot of time and (very) complex coding...just use a cursur. Add each value to a variable and use this in an insert statement.
 
Regards,
 
Sander
 
PS: Oracle to retrieve SQL-Server data....oi

Martin Reid <mwp.reid at queens-belfast.ac.uk> wrote:
Sander

See inline

Martin



> Martin,
> 
> can you please provide a little more info?
> WHY do you not want to use cursors?

No reason just wanted to try it using SQL but didnt seem 
possible without cursors. 

> Where does the output have to go to?

Into a table

> What format does it need to have?

see above

> What's the layout of the tables? (Send me the create table scripts...)

No problem will email them of line later on. That OK?

> 
> Sander
> 
> Martin Reid wrote:
> Tried the SQL Server list with this - no luck.
> 
> 
> Given a one to many relationship is it possible to produce this output using
> an SP without the use of cursors etc??
> 
> INPUT TABLE 1
> 
> 1000
> IT
> 
> 1000
> Databases
> 
> 1000
> VMS
> 
> 1001
> Spreadsheets
> 
> 1001
> GenStat
> 
> 1002
> Aquatic systems
> 
> 1002
> Research
> 
> 
> 
> 
> INPUT TABLE 2
> 
> 
> 
> 1000
> Smith
> 
> 1001
> Brown
> 
> 1002
> Foster
> 
> 
> 
> 
> OUTPUT REQUIRED
> 
> 1000
> Smith
> IT, Databases,VMS
> 
> 1001
> Brown
> Spreadsheets,GenStat
> 
> 1002
> Foster
> Aquatic Systems,Research
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Martin
> 
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From pharryecoenen at btinternet.com  Mon Apr 26 00:07:54 2004
From: pharryecoenen at btinternet.com (Harry Coenen)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 06:07:54 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Zip + 4 + foreign phones
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPGEALHGAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
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>
>Doesn't it just make you want to become part of the USA?

only if you (USA) accept ISO formats and ...eh ... human rights
>
><grin, duck and run>

I agree on that one
>
>John W. Colby

Harry



From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Mon Apr 26 06:21:39 2004
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 06:21:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] RE: Zip + 4 + foreign phones
Message-ID: <618EB4D6DDCDD3119B0A00508B6FD37A0CB0D683@cntexchange.pgdp.usec.com>

Thanks for all the suggestions - all I can say is Whew!

>  -----Original Message-----
> From: 	Hollis,Virginia  
> Sent:	Saturday, April 24, 2004 7:42 AM
> To:	'accessD at databaseadvisors.com'
> Subject:	Zip + 4 + foreign phones
> 
> Does anyone have the Zip Codes with the + 4? I have a table with 54,000
> zip codes - but the user wants the +4.
> 
> Also, I know there has been a lot of messages over the years about foreign
> (other countries besides US) phone numbers. This is the first time I have
> had to use foreign numbers. How are they formatted?
> 
> Oh, which makes me think - are foreign zip codes different too? Does
> anyone have a table with foreign zip codes too?
> 
> Virginia


From john at winhaven.net  Mon Apr 26 09:01:12 2004
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 09:01:12 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT jpeg lawsuit (was jpg Screen shot)
In-Reply-To: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE519@TAPPEEXCH01>
Message-ID: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKIKEHPFGAA.john@winhaven.net>

Speak of the devil, we just might start seeing an increase in the use of the
png format. These is a lawsuit concerning the jpeg patent rights and license
fees (ala SCO UNIX code in Linux?):

http://internetweek.com/e-business/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=19200171

John

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:34 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


Most Windows programs support PNG (Adobe Photoshop, Microsoft Photo Editor,
Internet Explorer, Irfanview, etc).  It just hasn't made it to the industry
standard realm the same way as other formats have.  (Magazines asking for
JPG files instead of PNGs for screenshots, for example).

I think you'd be hard pressed to find a current graphics file viewer that
doesn't support it.


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From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot

Brett:

Would it be a problem if you wanted to send a file to someone?  Is PNG
format supported by Windows or any of the popular viewers?

Rocky

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To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


> By far, the absolute best format for screenshots is PNG.  Near-infinite
> color range (handles 32-bit palettes with ease), lossless compression, and
> tiny file size.
>
> Unfortunately, it is open-source based so it hasn't made it to the
> mainstream like other more popular formats (GIF, JPG).
>
> I wrote a global error handler that automatically grabs a full screen shot
> of the users' workstation upon app failure and stores it as a PNG on the
> network.  Files range between 8KB and 25KB!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:23 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
> You should make this into an article.
>
> Thanks to everyone who helped.  I eventually used Irfanview which looks
like
> a very complete program.  Just got a note from the publisher - the jpg is
> fine.  Of course, in the magazine it's going to be probably no bigger than
> 2" x 2"
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
> > ...don't use any program that initially captures your screen as a jpeg
> ...I
> > won't go into the details here but when you save an image as a jpeg you
> are
> > using a lossy algorithm that throws away portions of the graphic ...its
> the
> > nature of the beast ...in order to give them the high quality jpeg they
> > need, start with a decent graphics program that lets you capture the
image
> > in a high quality, uncompressed format to begin with ...Photoshop and
> > paintshoppro are the mainstream programs ...I personally use
paintshoppro
> > (www.jasc.com) ...set your screen resolution to the highest resolution
> your
> > graphics card can support and make sure your image capture area is clean
> and
> > clear at that resolution ...capture the image and save it into un
> > uncompressed format, preferably the native format of your graphics
program
> > ...in paintshoppro that would give you an image with a .pspimage file
tag
> > ...using that image you can do all sorts of image enhancements to make
> your
> > saved image look better ...then resize it to 300dpi ...if you started at
a
> > much lower screen resolution you might wind up with too small an image
at
> > this point ...once the image is sized/cropped/enhanced just as you'd
like
> to
> > see it, use your graphics program's feature that optimizes it and saves
it
> > as a jpeg ...use zero compression (even though the jpeg will still have
> some
> > inherent image quality loss) and make sure that you use the comparison
> > feature to ensure minimal visible loss of image quality in the resulting
> > file.
> >
> > ...now you have a decent sized jpeg at the desired dpi that is the best
> that
> > you can present ...hth :)
> >
> > William Hindman
> > "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
> > a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> > To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:30 PM
> > Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
> >
> >
> > Dear List:
> >
> > A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it
to
> be
> > 300dpi.
> >
> > What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?
> >
> > MTIA,
> >
> > Rocky Smolin
> > Beach Access Software
> > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> >
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Mon Apr 26 09:09:21 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 10:09:21 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT jpeg lawsuit (was jpg Screen shot)
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA3082EECD@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB47A@ADGSERVER>

But, IIRC, the patent(s) run out near the end of 2004.  So I guess we'll
see.  Either way, the suing company has a bunch of (place favorite
expletives here) running it. 

Funny thing is, I thought the JPEG spec was designed (as is PNG) so as to
not infringe on any patents.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 10:01 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT jpeg lawsuit (was jpg Screen shot)


Speak of the devil, we just might start seeing an increase in the use of the
png format. These is a lawsuit concerning the jpeg patent rights and license
fees (ala SCO UNIX code in Linux?):

http://internetweek.com/e-business/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=19200171

John

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:34 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


Most Windows programs support PNG (Adobe Photoshop, Microsoft Photo Editor,
Internet Explorer, Irfanview, etc).  It just hasn't made it to the industry
standard realm the same way as other formats have.  (Magazines asking for
JPG files instead of PNGs for screenshots, for example).

I think you'd be hard pressed to find a current graphics file viewer that
doesn't support it.


-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot

Brett:

Would it be a problem if you wanted to send a file to someone?  Is PNG
format supported by Windows or any of the popular viewers?

Rocky

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


> By far, the absolute best format for screenshots is PNG.  
> Near-infinite color range (handles 32-bit palettes with ease), 
> lossless compression, and tiny file size.
>
> Unfortunately, it is open-source based so it hasn't made it to the 
> mainstream like other more popular formats (GIF, JPG).
>
> I wrote a global error handler that automatically grabs a full screen 
> shot of the users' workstation upon app failure and stores it as a PNG 
> on the network.  Files range between 8KB and 25KB!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:23 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
> You should make this into an article.
>
> Thanks to everyone who helped.  I eventually used Irfanview which 
> looks
like
> a very complete program.  Just got a note from the publisher - the jpg 
> is fine.  Of course, in the magazine it's going to be probably no 
> bigger than 2" x 2"
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
> > ...don't use any program that initially captures your screen as a 
> > jpeg
> ...I
> > won't go into the details here but when you save an image as a jpeg 
> > you
> are
> > using a lossy algorithm that throws away portions of the graphic 
> > ...its
> the
> > nature of the beast ...in order to give them the high quality jpeg 
> > they need, start with a decent graphics program that lets you 
> > capture the
image
> > in a high quality, uncompressed format to begin with ...Photoshop 
> > and paintshoppro are the mainstream programs ...I personally use
paintshoppro
> > (www.jasc.com) ...set your screen resolution to the highest 
> > resolution
> your
> > graphics card can support and make sure your image capture area is 
> > clean
> and
> > clear at that resolution ...capture the image and save it into un 
> > uncompressed format, preferably the native format of your graphics
program
> > ...in paintshoppro that would give you an image with a .pspimage 
> > file
tag
> > ...using that image you can do all sorts of image enhancements to 
> > make
> your
> > saved image look better ...then resize it to 300dpi ...if you 
> > started at
a
> > much lower screen resolution you might wind up with too small an 
> > image
at
> > this point ...once the image is sized/cropped/enhanced just as you'd
like
> to
> > see it, use your graphics program's feature that optimizes it and 
> > saves
it
> > as a jpeg ...use zero compression (even though the jpeg will still 
> > have
> some
> > inherent image quality loss) and make sure that you use the 
> > comparison feature to ensure minimal visible loss of image quality 
> > in the resulting file.
> >
> > ...now you have a decent sized jpeg at the desired dpi that is the 
> > best
> that
> > you can present ...hth :)
> >
> > William Hindman
> > "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your 
> > code is a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William 
> > Silverstein
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> > To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:30 PM
> > Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
> >
> >
> > Dear List:
> >
> > A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like 
> > it
to
> be
> > 300dpi.
> >
> > What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?
> >
> > MTIA,
> >
> > Rocky Smolin
> > Beach Access Software
> > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> >
>
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From john at winhaven.net  Mon Apr 26 09:20:15 2004
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 09:20:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT jpeg lawsuit (was jpg Screen shot)
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB47A@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKIEEIAFGAA.john@winhaven.net>

That is what I thought too. Fuzzy memories or fuzzy law suit?
;o)

John


Funny thing is, I thought the JPEG spec was designed (as is PNG) so as to
not infringe on any patents.

Bobby





From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Mon Apr 26 09:22:39 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 09:22:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT jpeg lawsuit (was jpg Screen shot)
Message-ID: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE548@TAPPEEXCH01>

I initially became interested in PNG after Unisys launched their LZW patents
against software companies offering GIF support.  I was under the mistaken
impression the jpeg was an open standard.  Guess not!

IMHO, PNG is a poor substitute for JPEG, as its compression works best on
images with large blocks of same colors (a la screenshots).  Not very
effective for photos.


-----Original Message-----
From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 9:01 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT jpeg lawsuit (was jpg Screen shot)

Speak of the devil, we just might start seeing an increase in the use of the
png format. These is a lawsuit concerning the jpeg patent rights and license
fees (ala SCO UNIX code in Linux?):

http://internetweek.com/e-business/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=19200171

John

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:34 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


Most Windows programs support PNG (Adobe Photoshop, Microsoft Photo Editor,
Internet Explorer, Irfanview, etc).  It just hasn't made it to the industry
standard realm the same way as other formats have.  (Magazines asking for
JPG files instead of PNGs for screenshots, for example).

I think you'd be hard pressed to find a current graphics file viewer that
doesn't support it.


-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot

Brett:

Would it be a problem if you wanted to send a file to someone?  Is PNG
format supported by Windows or any of the popular viewers?

Rocky

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


> By far, the absolute best format for screenshots is PNG.  Near-infinite
> color range (handles 32-bit palettes with ease), lossless compression, and
> tiny file size.
>
> Unfortunately, it is open-source based so it hasn't made it to the
> mainstream like other more popular formats (GIF, JPG).
>
> I wrote a global error handler that automatically grabs a full screen shot
> of the users' workstation upon app failure and stores it as a PNG on the
> network.  Files range between 8KB and 25KB!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:23 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
> You should make this into an article.
>
> Thanks to everyone who helped.  I eventually used Irfanview which looks
like
> a very complete program.  Just got a note from the publisher - the jpg is
> fine.  Of course, in the magazine it's going to be probably no bigger than
> 2" x 2"
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
> > ...don't use any program that initially captures your screen as a jpeg
> ...I
> > won't go into the details here but when you save an image as a jpeg you
> are
> > using a lossy algorithm that throws away portions of the graphic ...its
> the
> > nature of the beast ...in order to give them the high quality jpeg they
> > need, start with a decent graphics program that lets you capture the
image
> > in a high quality, uncompressed format to begin with ...Photoshop and
> > paintshoppro are the mainstream programs ...I personally use
paintshoppro
> > (www.jasc.com) ...set your screen resolution to the highest resolution
> your
> > graphics card can support and make sure your image capture area is clean
> and
> > clear at that resolution ...capture the image and save it into un
> > uncompressed format, preferably the native format of your graphics
program
> > ...in paintshoppro that would give you an image with a .pspimage file
tag
> > ...using that image you can do all sorts of image enhancements to make
> your
> > saved image look better ...then resize it to 300dpi ...if you started at
a
> > much lower screen resolution you might wind up with too small an image
at
> > this point ...once the image is sized/cropped/enhanced just as you'd
like
> to
> > see it, use your graphics program's feature that optimizes it and saves
it
> > as a jpeg ...use zero compression (even though the jpeg will still have
> some
> > inherent image quality loss) and make sure that you use the comparison
> > feature to ensure minimal visible loss of image quality in the resulting
> > file.
> >
> > ...now you have a decent sized jpeg at the desired dpi that is the best
> that
> > you can present ...hth :)
> >
> > William Hindman
> > "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
> > a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> > To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:30 PM
> > Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
> >
> >
> > Dear List:
> >
> > A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it
to
> be
> > 300dpi.
> >
> > What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?
> >
> > MTIA,
> >
> > Rocky Smolin
> > Beach Access Software
> > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> >
>
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From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Mon Apr 26 09:54:09 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 10:54:09 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT jpeg lawsuit (was jpg Screen shot)
References: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE548@TAPPEEXCH01>
Message-ID: <003f01c42b9e$546f6470$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...if there is any merit to this I'm hopeful that it will push earlier
adoption of the SVG format ...SVG is an open-standard vector graphics
language based on XML and has been developed by a working group of the W3C
...it produces readily scalable graphics with much smaller file size ...its
wide adoption would significantly improve the net in many ways. :)

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 10:22 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT jpeg lawsuit (was jpg Screen shot)


> I initially became interested in PNG after Unisys launched their LZW
patents
> against software companies offering GIF support.  I was under the mistaken
> impression the jpeg was an open standard.  Guess not!
>
> IMHO, PNG is a poor substitute for JPEG, as its compression works best on
> images with large blocks of same colors (a la screenshots).  Not very
> effective for photos.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 9:01 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT jpeg lawsuit (was jpg Screen shot)
>
> Speak of the devil, we just might start seeing an increase in the use of
the
> png format. These is a lawsuit concerning the jpeg patent rights and
license
> fees (ala SCO UNIX code in Linux?):
>
> http://internetweek.com/e-business/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=19200171
>
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:34 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
> Most Windows programs support PNG (Adobe Photoshop, Microsoft Photo
Editor,
> Internet Explorer, Irfanview, etc).  It just hasn't made it to the
industry
> standard realm the same way as other formats have.  (Magazines asking for
> JPG files instead of PNGs for screenshots, for example).
>
> I think you'd be hard pressed to find a current graphics file viewer that
> doesn't support it.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:28 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
> Brett:
>
> Would it be a problem if you wanted to send a file to someone?  Is PNG
> format supported by Windows or any of the popular viewers?
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:42 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
> > By far, the absolute best format for screenshots is PNG.  Near-infinite
> > color range (handles 32-bit palettes with ease), lossless compression,
and
> > tiny file size.
> >
> > Unfortunately, it is open-source based so it hasn't made it to the
> > mainstream like other more popular formats (GIF, JPG).
> >
> > I wrote a global error handler that automatically grabs a full screen
shot
> > of the users' workstation upon app failure and stores it as a PNG on the
> > network.  Files range between 8KB and 25KB!
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:23 AM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
> >
> > You should make this into an article.
> >
> > Thanks to everyone who helped.  I eventually used Irfanview which looks
> like
> > a very complete program.  Just got a note from the publisher - the jpg
is
> > fine.  Of course, in the magazine it's going to be probably no bigger
than
> > 2" x 2"
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Rocky Smolin
> > Beach Access Software
> > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:18 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
> >
> >
> > > ...don't use any program that initially captures your screen as a jpeg
> > ...I
> > > won't go into the details here but when you save an image as a jpeg
you
> > are
> > > using a lossy algorithm that throws away portions of the graphic
...its
> > the
> > > nature of the beast ...in order to give them the high quality jpeg
they
> > > need, start with a decent graphics program that lets you capture the
> image
> > > in a high quality, uncompressed format to begin with ...Photoshop and
> > > paintshoppro are the mainstream programs ...I personally use
> paintshoppro
> > > (www.jasc.com) ...set your screen resolution to the highest resolution
> > your
> > > graphics card can support and make sure your image capture area is
clean
> > and
> > > clear at that resolution ...capture the image and save it into un
> > > uncompressed format, preferably the native format of your graphics
> program
> > > ...in paintshoppro that would give you an image with a .pspimage file
> tag
> > > ...using that image you can do all sorts of image enhancements to make
> > your
> > > saved image look better ...then resize it to 300dpi ...if you started
at
> a
> > > much lower screen resolution you might wind up with too small an image
> at
> > > this point ...once the image is sized/cropped/enhanced just as you'd
> like
> > to
> > > see it, use your graphics program's feature that optimizes it and
saves
> it
> > > as a jpeg ...use zero compression (even though the jpeg will still
have
> > some
> > > inherent image quality loss) and make sure that you use the comparison
> > > feature to ensure minimal visible loss of image quality in the
resulting
> > > file.
> > >
> > > ...now you have a decent sized jpeg at the desired dpi that is the
best
> > that
> > > you can present ...hth :)
> > >
> > > William Hindman
> > > "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code
is
> > > a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> > > To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:30 PM
> > > Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear List:
> > >
> > > A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it
> to
> > be
> > > 300dpi.
> > >
> > > What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?
> > >
> > > MTIA,
> > >
> > > Rocky Smolin
> > > Beach Access Software
> > > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> > >
> >
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Apr 26 09:49:29 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 07:49:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT jpeg lawsuit (was jpg Screen shot)
In-Reply-To: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE548@TAPPEEXCH01>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLICEPHCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

PNG is suppose to be a replacement for GIF files not JPEG files.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 7:23 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT jpeg lawsuit (was jpg Screen shot)


I initially became interested in PNG after Unisys launched their LZW patents
against software companies offering GIF support.  I was under the mistaken
impression the jpeg was an open standard.  Guess not!

IMHO, PNG is a poor substitute for JPEG, as its compression works best on
images with large blocks of same colors (a la screenshots).  Not very
effective for photos.


-----Original Message-----
From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 9:01 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT jpeg lawsuit (was jpg Screen shot)

Speak of the devil, we just might start seeing an increase in the use of the
png format. These is a lawsuit concerning the jpeg patent rights and license
fees (ala SCO UNIX code in Linux?):

http://internetweek.com/e-business/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=19200171

John

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:34 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


Most Windows programs support PNG (Adobe Photoshop, Microsoft Photo Editor,
Internet Explorer, Irfanview, etc).  It just hasn't made it to the industry
standard realm the same way as other formats have.  (Magazines asking for
JPG files instead of PNGs for screenshots, for example).

I think you'd be hard pressed to find a current graphics file viewer that
doesn't support it.


-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot

Brett:

Would it be a problem if you wanted to send a file to someone?  Is PNG
format supported by Windows or any of the popular viewers?

Rocky

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


> By far, the absolute best format for screenshots is PNG.  Near-infinite
> color range (handles 32-bit palettes with ease), lossless compression, and
> tiny file size.
>
> Unfortunately, it is open-source based so it hasn't made it to the
> mainstream like other more popular formats (GIF, JPG).
>
> I wrote a global error handler that automatically grabs a full screen shot
> of the users' workstation upon app failure and stores it as a PNG on the
> network.  Files range between 8KB and 25KB!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:23 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
> You should make this into an article.
>
> Thanks to everyone who helped.  I eventually used Irfanview which looks
like
> a very complete program.  Just got a note from the publisher - the jpg is
> fine.  Of course, in the magazine it's going to be probably no bigger than
> 2" x 2"
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
> > ...don't use any program that initially captures your screen as a jpeg
> ...I
> > won't go into the details here but when you save an image as a jpeg you
> are
> > using a lossy algorithm that throws away portions of the graphic ...its
> the
> > nature of the beast ...in order to give them the high quality jpeg they
> > need, start with a decent graphics program that lets you capture the
image
> > in a high quality, uncompressed format to begin with ...Photoshop and
> > paintshoppro are the mainstream programs ...I personally use
paintshoppro
> > (www.jasc.com) ...set your screen resolution to the highest resolution
> your
> > graphics card can support and make sure your image capture area is clean
> and
> > clear at that resolution ...capture the image and save it into un
> > uncompressed format, preferably the native format of your graphics
program
> > ...in paintshoppro that would give you an image with a .pspimage file
tag
> > ...using that image you can do all sorts of image enhancements to make
> your
> > saved image look better ...then resize it to 300dpi ...if you started at
a
> > much lower screen resolution you might wind up with too small an image
at
> > this point ...once the image is sized/cropped/enhanced just as you'd
like
> to
> > see it, use your graphics program's feature that optimizes it and saves
it
> > as a jpeg ...use zero compression (even though the jpeg will still have
> some
> > inherent image quality loss) and make sure that you use the comparison
> > feature to ensure minimal visible loss of image quality in the resulting
> > file.
> >
> > ...now you have a decent sized jpeg at the desired dpi that is the best
> that
> > you can present ...hth :)
> >
> > William Hindman
> > "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
> > a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> > To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:30 PM
> > Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
> >
> >
> > Dear List:
> >
> > A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it
to
> be
> > 300dpi.
> >
> > What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?
> >
> > MTIA,
> >
> > Rocky Smolin
> > Beach Access Software
> > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> >
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From greggs at msn.com  Mon Apr 26 11:25:18 2004
From: greggs at msn.com (Gregg)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 11:25:18 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] List Box does not show all
In-Reply-To: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLICEPHCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <MOELIKDOANGCHBBIGOLIAEODECAA.greggs@msn.com>

What causes list boxes to no show the whole list?  Seems to come and go.  It
shows up on all users so it must be either the link to the BE or the BE
itself.  Any ideas?

Gregg Steinbrenner




From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Apr 26 12:09:41 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 12:09:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677201ABB3@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

For anyone who needs to activate a calendar from Excel John Walkenbach has
one of the most amazing calendars using a single array formula on p357 of
his Excel 2000 formulas book. Since I often use Excel worksheets as simple
interfaces to Access databases this native Excel calendar comes in very
handy.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 2:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion



I use the ADH calendar and trigger it on the double-click of any date text
box.  So they can still hand enter the date if they want.  Users seem to
like the convention once they get used to it.

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
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> From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 12:48 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
>
>
> > ...first ...I don't use the ODE Calendar Control because of a long
history
> > of versioning problems
> >
> > ===========I'm limited -- I write about what they want. :) So, when you
> > complain of versioning problems, what do you mean?
> >
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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Mon Apr 26 12:23:20 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 12:23:20 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: To Combine Child Records
In-Reply-To: <200404261700.i3QH0dQ30045@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040426121936.02baee58@pop3.highstream.net>

Actually, you can do this with 2 views combined in one and possible using a 
subquery.

You can create a SQL Server function that can give you the following:

1001, "Spreadsheets,GenStat"

Once you get that, it is a simple join to get the name added in.

Robert

P.S.  I covered the function that was required to do this in my last Access 
developer's workshop.  We did it in both Access and SQL Server.

At 12:00 PM 4/26/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 22:22:49 -0700 (PDT)
>From: S D <accessd667 at yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT SQL Question
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <20040426052249.23200.qmail at web61108.mail.yahoo.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>Martin,
>
>I've checked it out during the weekend (for a short while...it IS a 
>weekend he). I don't see how you could create this using SQL. PERHAPS, 
>using COMPUTE?! I'm not very familiar with this keyword.
>
>To save a lot of time and (very) complex coding...just use a cursur. Add 
>each value to a variable and use this in an insert statement.
>
>Regards,
>
>Sander
>
>PS: Oracle to retrieve SQL-Server data....oi
>
>Martin Reid <mwp.reid at queens-belfast.ac.uk> wrote:
>Sander
>
>See inline
>
>Martin
>
>
>
> > Martin,
> >
> > can you please provide a little more info?
> > WHY do you not want to use cursors?
>
>No reason just wanted to try it using SQL but didnt seem
>possible without cursors.
>
> > Where does the output have to go to?
>
>Into a table
>
> > What format does it need to have?
>
>see above
>
> > What's the layout of the tables? (Send me the create table scripts...)
>
>No problem will email them of line later on. That OK?
>
> >
> > Sander
> >
> > Martin Reid wrote:
> > Tried the SQL Server list with this - no luck.
> >
> >
> > Given a one to many relationship is it possible to produce this output 
> using
> > an SP without the use of cursors etc??
> >
> > INPUT TABLE 1
> >
> > 1000
> > IT
> >
> > 1000
> > Databases
> >
> > 1000
> > VMS
> >
> > 1001
> > Spreadsheets
> >
> > 1001
> > GenStat
> >
> > 1002
> > Aquatic systems
> >
> > 1002
> > Research
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > INPUT TABLE 2
> >
> >
> >
> > 1000
> > Smith
> >
> > 1001
> > Brown
> >
> > 1002
> > Foster
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > OUTPUT REQUIRED
> >
> > 1000
> > Smith
> > IT, Databases,VMS
> >
> > 1001
> > Brown
> > Spreadsheets,GenStat
> >
> > 1002
> > Foster
> > Aquatic Systems,Research
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Martin




From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Mon Apr 26 12:27:45 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 12:27:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: jpg Screen shot
In-Reply-To: <200404261700.i3QH0dQ30045@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040426122441.02acf750@pop3.highstream.net>

Tiny file size my foot!!!!  I had to convert all my PNG (Fireworks) files 
to GIF to get speed loading them as graphic buttons for a web site. 94k 
compared to 6k.

PNG was not a viable choice.

At 12:00 PM 4/26/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:42 AM
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
> > By far, the absolute best format for screenshots is PNG.  Near-infinite
> > color range (handles 32-bit palettes with ease), lossless compression, and
> > tiny file size.
> >




From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Mon Apr 26 13:05:22 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Developer)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 14:05:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] PrtDevMode in MDE
In-Reply-To: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLICEPHCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <000001c42bb9$14826310$6401a8c0@COA3>

I am trying to  force some values into prtdevmode in a report at
runtime, but the code ive always used for this requires the report to be
manipulated in design view, which wont work in an MDE.
Specifically, there is a custom paper size on the pc (11 x 8.5) that I
want to hard-code to the report
Is there any way to do this in an MDE?



From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Mon Apr 26 13:12:48 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 13:12:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] RE: jpg Screen shot
Message-ID: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE54B@TAPPEEXCH01>

Huh?!  I was talking about screenshots, not website buttons.
As I mentioned earlier, IMHO, 20-40 KB is tiny for a screenshot, considering
it displays 100% of the original quality.  I have yet to find another file
format that can top this.

Nevertheless, let's do a little test here.  Using Microsoft PhotoDraw 2000
(tried it with MS Photo Editor as well with reasonably similar results):

-----
Source: 66x109 pixel 24-bit photo bmp file (a poor choice for PNG
compression)
Original BMP: 21,854 bytes
PNG (24-bit color): 10,128 bytes
PNG (8-bit 256 color): 3,052 bytes
GIF (8-bit 256 color): 3,118 bytes
(both the 8 bit PNG and the 8 bit GIF looked awful i.e. loss of photo
detail/color)
-----

-----
Source: 61x41 pixel 16 color toolbar button (a perfect choice for PNG
compression)
Original BMP: 9,438 bytes
PNG (24-bit color): 391 bytes
PNG (8-bit 256 color): 1,084 bytes
GIF (8-bit 256 color): 1,129 bytes
(results were identical.  In this case, the 24-bit pallette netted a smaller
file size, since there were only 4 distinct colors in the photo.  The 256
color pallette wasted the additional overhead).
-----

Keep the following in mind:
- Photos are poor candidates for PNG/zlib compression.  PNG works best for
files with large blocks of the same color (e.g. screenshots).
- All programs are not created equally.  Despite LIBPNG being offered to
software vendors and the general public with a free no strings attached
commercial license, there are several apps that do a half-assed job of
handling PNG files *cough IE*.

What program are you using to convert to PNG?


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert L. Stewart [mailto:rl_stewart at highstream.net]
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 12:28 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Cc: BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com
Subject: Re: jpg Screen shot


Tiny file size my foot!!!!  I had to convert all my PNG (Fireworks) files 
to GIF to get speed loading them as graphic buttons for a web site. 94k 
compared to 6k.

PNG was not a viable choice.

At 12:00 PM 4/26/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:42 AM
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
> > By far, the absolute best format for screenshots is PNG.  Near-infinite
> > color range (handles 32-bit palettes with ease), lossless compression,
and
> > tiny file size.
> >



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From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca  Mon Apr 26 13:19:04 2004
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 14:19:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] RE: jpg Screen shot
Message-ID: <s08d1a6a.067@cbc.ca>

OK Folks.

While all this talk of jpgs, pngs and image formats is interesting, it
really belongs over on dba-tech

http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech if you aren't
already subscribed to dba-tech.

Bryan Carbonnell
bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca
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From john at winhaven.net  Mon Apr 26 13:22:13 2004
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 13:22:13 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: jpg Screen shot
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040426122441.02acf750@pop3.highstream.net>
Message-ID: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKICEIFFGAA.john@winhaven.net>

I haven't seen that big of a difference in file size myself. I use Adobe
products and the size is usually larger on average, by maybe 15%. It could
be that your software isn't doing a good job of conversion or the settings
are not quite right.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Robert L.
Stewart
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 12:28 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Cc: BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: jpg Screen shot


Tiny file size my foot!!!!  I had to convert all my PNG (Fireworks) files
to GIF to get speed loading them as graphic buttons for a web site. 94k
compared to 6k.

PNG was not a viable choice.

At 12:00 PM 4/26/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:42 AM
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
> > By far, the absolute best format for screenshots is PNG.  Near-infinite
> > color range (handles 32-bit palettes with ease), lossless compression,
and
> > tiny file size.
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Mon Apr 26 13:30:55 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 13:30:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227B16@main2.marlow.com>

Yep, it's on my website.  http://www.wolfwares.com

Drew

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Steve
Capistrant
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 8:49 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion


Drew, is it still possible to get a copy of your OLD version in the
meantime?

Steve Capistrant
Symphony Information Services
scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
www.symphonyinfo.com
Phone: 763-391-7400
7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132, Brooklyn Park, MN 55428

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 9:48 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion


You're quite welcome.  As soon as life settles down, I'll finish up the new
version.  Which is keyboard friendly too!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 5:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar Controls -- just for discussion


> I use a modified version of Drew's old mini-calendar which is all VBA,
dead reliable, and very fast.
Ditto (and thanks to Drew)

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



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From Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com  Mon Apr 26 14:45:14 2004
From: Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com (Lavsa, Rich)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 15:45:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls AND TIME Controls
Message-ID: <833956F5C117124A89417638FDB11290EBD156@goexchange.pghcorning.com>

I always hear about Calendar Controls and have used a few of them.  I was
wondering if anyone out there has a Time control.  I have a very time
sensitive application where the technicians have to enter Date and Time on
and Date and Time off.  The time is essential to knowing how long the piece
ran with or without defects in the product to know whether to fix it or use
that mold as a template for others if it was working properly over a long
period of time (long could be 16+ hours due to the harsh environment).  

Anyway, back to my question.  I have a Date/Time field for ON and OFF,
currently I have a text box that is populated with a pop up calendar or by
typing in text, works great.  I also have another unbound field that is used
purely for Time entry, of which the user must type it in as ##:## AM/PM,
then upon exit it concatenates that information with the Date information to
make a complete Date/Time field.. Does anyone know of a Time control or a
better way to achieve this type of functionality other then the Date and
Time Active X control.

Thanks in Advance,
Rich



From markamatte at hotmail.com  Mon Apr 26 15:11:35 2004
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 20:11:35 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Help with locked table?
Message-ID: <BAY1-F33x82xWpFacOy0000c70a@hotmail.com>

Hello All,

I have an A97 db that I cannot compact...message reads that either I or 
someone else is trying to edit the same data...I have isolated it to 1 
table.  I can copy the entire db...but I cannot import/copy/export...this 
one table without getting the same error.

I ran the Repair successfully...and still have the issue...

Any ideas/suggestions?

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Mon Apr 26 15:23:15 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 15:23:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls AND TIME Controls
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227B19@main2.marlow.com>

Well if you can wait, the next item I'm adding to the beta version of my
MiniCalendar is a time/clock portion.

No idea when I'll have it done though...not very timely I guess! LOL

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Lavsa, Rich
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 2:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls AND TIME Controls


I always hear about Calendar Controls and have used a few of them.  I was
wondering if anyone out there has a Time control.  I have a very time
sensitive application where the technicians have to enter Date and Time on
and Date and Time off.  The time is essential to knowing how long the piece
ran with or without defects in the product to know whether to fix it or use
that mold as a template for others if it was working properly over a long
period of time (long could be 16+ hours due to the harsh environment).  

Anyway, back to my question.  I have a Date/Time field for ON and OFF,
currently I have a text box that is populated with a pop up calendar or by
typing in text, works great.  I also have another unbound field that is used
purely for Time entry, of which the user must type it in as ##:## AM/PM,
then upon exit it concatenates that information with the Date information to
make a complete Date/Time field.. Does anyone know of a Time control or a
better way to achieve this type of functionality other then the Date and
Time Active X control.

Thanks in Advance,
Rich

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From ranthony at wrsystems.com  Mon Apr 26 15:24:56 2004
From: ranthony at wrsystems.com (ranthony at wrsystems.com)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 16:24:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Help with locked table?
Message-ID: <5F21A4E8B8DD734992EF9E70AC9D3064128B9E@mail2.wrsystems.com>

Mark, your problems may be exacerbated by using the A97 repair utility.
Download the Jetcomp.exe utility by M$ and repair/compact with that.  Worse
case, you may have to use the /decompile switch.

Randy

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark A Matte [mailto:markamatte at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 4:12 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Help with locked table?

Hello All,

I have an A97 db that I cannot compact...message reads that either I or 
someone else is trying to edit the same data...I have isolated it to 1 
table.  I can copy the entire db...but I cannot import/copy/export...this 
one table without getting the same error.

I ran the Repair successfully...and still have the issue...

Any ideas/suggestions?

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

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From Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com  Mon Apr 26 15:39:48 2004
From: Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com (Pickering, Stephen)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 15:39:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Help with locked table?
Message-ID: <CF0EA31794DDD611ADDC00065B88640C039A2FA7@s98027.psd.caremark.int>

Mark,

Does the table have any OLE or Memo fields?  If you look through the data,
do you see any fields with "#Error" as the data?

Steve

-----Mark A Matte's Original Message-----

Hello All,

I have an A97 db that I cannot compact...message reads that either I or 
someone else is trying to edit the same data...I have isolated it to 1 
table.  I can copy the entire db...but I cannot import/copy/export...this 
one table without getting the same error.

I ran the Repair successfully...and still have the issue...

Any ideas/suggestions?

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte


From tortise at paradise.net.nz  Mon Apr 26 15:37:21 2004
From: tortise at paradise.net.nz (Tortise)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 08:37:21 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Help with locked table?
References: <BAY1-F33x82xWpFacOy0000c70a@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <0d2201c42bce$466e7d40$1e00a8c0@cheqsoft.local>

Dear Mark
Out of interest does that table contain a memo field?  The only one by chance?
Kind regards
David Hingston MB ChB MBA
Director
Chequers Software Ltd
Wellington, New Zealand.
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mark A Matte 
  To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 8:11 AM
  Subject: [AccessD] Help with locked table?


  Hello All,

  I have an A97 db that I cannot compact...message reads that either I or 
  someone else is trying to edit the same data...I have isolated it to 1 
  table.  I can copy the entire db...but I cannot import/copy/export...this 
  one table without getting the same error.

  I ran the Repair successfully...and still have the issue...

  Any ideas/suggestions?

  Thanks,

  Mark A. Matte

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From pedro at plex.nl  Mon Apr 26 16:07:19 2004
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 23:07:19 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase
References: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227B08@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <000701c42bd3$948451d0$f4c581d5@pedro>

Hello Drew,

thanks for your help. After changing:  Dim rs As Recordset    to   Dim rs As
DAO.Recordset    everything worked perfect.

Pedro Janssen

----- Original Message -----
From: <DWUTKA at marlow.com>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 12:32 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase


> How's this?
>
> Function SetAllDataToProperCase()
> Dim tbldef As TableDef
> Dim strSQL As String
> Dim rs As Recordset
> Dim i As Long
> Dim FieldCheck As Boolean
> For Each tbldef In CurrentDb.TableDefs
>     If Left(tbldef.Name, 4) <> "MSys" Then
>         'Set a boolean to make sure we have fields to actually update
>         FieldCheck = False
>         strSQL = "UPDATE " & tbldef.Name & " SET "
>         Set rs = CurrentDb.OpenRecordset(tbldef.Name, dbOpenTable)
>         For i = 0 To rs.Fields.Count - 1
>             If rs.Fields(i).Type = 10 Or rs.Fields(i).Type = 12 Then
>                 'we have a valid field
>                 FieldCheck = True
>                 strSQL = strSQL & "[" & rs.Fields(i).Name & "]=StrConv(["
&
> rs.Fields(i).Name & "],3), "
>             End If
>         Next i
>         If FieldCheck Then
>             strSQL = Left(strSQL, Len(strSQL) - 2)
>             CurrentDb.Execute strSQL
>         End If
>     End If
> Next
> MsgBox "Done"
> End Function
>
> That will change ALL text data in your database (text and memo fields)
>
> Drew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 4:54 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase
>
>
> Hello Drew,
>
> how can i use this so that it sets all characters in all tables in a
> database?
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <DWUTKA at marlow.com>
> To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 9:34 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase
>
>
> > StrConv("this is a test",vbProperCase)
> >
> >
> > results in:
> >
> >
> > This Is A Test
> >
> > Drew
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 2:09 PM
> > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase
> >
> >
> > Hello Group,
> >
> > i have a code (thanks to Brett Barabash and Mark A Matte) that sets all
> > characters in all tables to Lowercase.
> >
> > What i also would like to see is each character at the beginning of a
word
> > (each word that is separated by a space) is set to Uppercase in all
Tables
> > by just one code.
> > Is this possible. Who can help me with this?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Pedro Janssen
> > --
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Mon Apr 26 16:30:19 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 16:30:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227B1B@main2.marlow.com>

Sorry, wrote it in 97....and on the fly, so I wasn't as careful as I should
have been.

<grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 4:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase


Hello Drew,

thanks for your help. After changing:  Dim rs As Recordset    to   Dim rs As
DAO.Recordset    everything worked perfect.

Pedro Janssen

----- Original Message -----
From: <DWUTKA at marlow.com>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 12:32 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase


> How's this?
>
> Function SetAllDataToProperCase()
> Dim tbldef As TableDef
> Dim strSQL As String
> Dim rs As Recordset
> Dim i As Long
> Dim FieldCheck As Boolean
> For Each tbldef In CurrentDb.TableDefs
>     If Left(tbldef.Name, 4) <> "MSys" Then
>         'Set a boolean to make sure we have fields to actually update
>         FieldCheck = False
>         strSQL = "UPDATE " & tbldef.Name & " SET "
>         Set rs = CurrentDb.OpenRecordset(tbldef.Name, dbOpenTable)
>         For i = 0 To rs.Fields.Count - 1
>             If rs.Fields(i).Type = 10 Or rs.Fields(i).Type = 12 Then
>                 'we have a valid field
>                 FieldCheck = True
>                 strSQL = strSQL & "[" & rs.Fields(i).Name & "]=StrConv(["
&
> rs.Fields(i).Name & "],3), "
>             End If
>         Next i
>         If FieldCheck Then
>             strSQL = Left(strSQL, Len(strSQL) - 2)
>             CurrentDb.Execute strSQL
>         End If
>     End If
> Next
> MsgBox "Done"
> End Function
>
> That will change ALL text data in your database (text and memo fields)
>
> Drew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 4:54 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase
>
>
> Hello Drew,
>
> how can i use this so that it sets all characters in all tables in a
> database?
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <DWUTKA at marlow.com>
> To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 9:34 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase
>
>
> > StrConv("this is a test",vbProperCase)
> >
> >
> > results in:
> >
> >
> > This Is A Test
> >
> > Drew
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 2:09 PM
> > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] first caracter as Uppercase
> >
> >
> > Hello Group,
> >
> > i have a code (thanks to Brett Barabash and Mark A Matte) that sets all
> > characters in all tables to Lowercase.
> >
> > What i also would like to see is each character at the beginning of a
word
> > (each word that is separated by a space) is set to Uppercase in all
Tables
> > by just one code.
> > Is this possible. Who can help me with this?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Pedro Janssen
> > --
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> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
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> >
> >
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Apr 26 16:15:16 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 14:15:16 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] PrtDevMode in MDE
References: <000001c42bb9$14826310$6401a8c0@COA3>
Message-ID: <408D7BE4.8020002@shaw.ca>

You might have a look at On the Fly Printing
 for Access from Attac Software
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/attac-cg/acgsoft.htm

Developer wrote:

>I am trying to  force some values into prtdevmode in a report at
>runtime, but the code ive always used for this requires the report to be
>manipulated in design view, which wont work in an MDE.
>Specifically, there is a custom paper size on the pc (11 x 8.5) that I
>want to hard-code to the report
>Is there any way to do this in an MDE?
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Apr 26 17:35:49 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 15:35:49 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] List Box does not show all
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8632C556@infoserver01.infostat.local>

How many rows are you trying to display?  Are you pushing the maximum
that a listbox will display?  Does it fix itself or does the user have
to reconnect to the BE?  I've seen odd behavior like that over a network
with a flaky card in one machine, but I've also seen it when the
machines had different service packs of Jet installed.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Gregg [mailto:greggs at msn.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 8:25 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] List Box does not show all


What causes list boxes to no show the whole list?  Seems to come and go.
It shows up on all users so it must be either the link to the BE or the
BE itself.  Any ideas?

Gregg Steinbrenner


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Apr 26 19:55:53 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 17:55:53 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] RE: jpg Screen shot
In-Reply-To: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE54B@TAPPEEXCH01>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIOEPLCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

I have found that GIF and PNG files are virtually identical in compression
size. I used Fireworks to compress files and had little difference in size
or quality but...If you have to use screen shots, that have many tonal
colours GIF/PNG files are not the correct format.

The method that I use rendering large graphics objects smaller is:
1. Acquire all pictures at the largest format possible, in the best standard
available, say in TIFF.
2. Never reduce greater than 50% without applying the 'Unsharp Mask'.
3. Reduce more, apply the mask and so on until the graphic is the right
size.
4. Translate the object to either GIF or JPEG.

I use Fireworks but I understand that ImageReady is equally as good. FW has
a great export wizard, for optimizing the graphics for web use and I can see
both the JPEG, GIF PNG results, side by side. The end result byte size can
be preselected, the displayed images can be zoomed in and carefully checked
and different what-if scenarios can be viewed, picking the number of
colours, anti-aliasing, optimization, sharping, unused color removal,
compression, adaptive colouring etc... I am still learning but the results
are getting better all the time.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 11:13 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] RE: jpg Screen shot


Huh?!  I was talking about screenshots, not website buttons.
As I mentioned earlier, IMHO, 20-40 KB is tiny for a screenshot, considering
it displays 100% of the original quality.  I have yet to find another file
format that can top this.

Nevertheless, let's do a little test here.  Using Microsoft PhotoDraw 2000
(tried it with MS Photo Editor as well with reasonably similar results):

-----
Source: 66x109 pixel 24-bit photo bmp file (a poor choice for PNG
compression)
Original BMP: 21,854 bytes
PNG (24-bit color): 10,128 bytes
PNG (8-bit 256 color): 3,052 bytes
GIF (8-bit 256 color): 3,118 bytes
(both the 8 bit PNG and the 8 bit GIF looked awful i.e. loss of photo
detail/color)
-----

-----
Source: 61x41 pixel 16 color toolbar button (a perfect choice for PNG
compression)
Original BMP: 9,438 bytes
PNG (24-bit color): 391 bytes
PNG (8-bit 256 color): 1,084 bytes
GIF (8-bit 256 color): 1,129 bytes
(results were identical.  In this case, the 24-bit pallette netted a smaller
file size, since there were only 4 distinct colors in the photo.  The 256
color pallette wasted the additional overhead).
-----

Keep the following in mind:
- Photos are poor candidates for PNG/zlib compression.  PNG works best for
files with large blocks of the same color (e.g. screenshots).
- All programs are not created equally.  Despite LIBPNG being offered to
software vendors and the general public with a free no strings attached
commercial license, there are several apps that do a half-assed job of
handling PNG files *cough IE*.

What program are you using to convert to PNG?


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert L. Stewart [mailto:rl_stewart at highstream.net]
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 12:28 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Cc: BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com
Subject: Re: jpg Screen shot


Tiny file size my foot!!!!  I had to convert all my PNG (Fireworks) files
to GIF to get speed loading them as graphic buttons for a web site. 94k
compared to 6k.

PNG was not a viable choice.

At 12:00 PM 4/26/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:42 AM
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
> > By far, the absolute best format for screenshots is PNG.  Near-infinite
> > color range (handles 32-bit palettes with ease), lossless compression,
and
> > tiny file size.
> >



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From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Mon Apr 26 21:20:54 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Developer)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 22:20:54 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] PrtDevMode in MDE
In-Reply-To: <408D7BE4.8020002@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <001b01c42bfe$48196d50$6401a8c0@COA3>


Thanks, Marty.
Being that this project is in A2k2 I was able to use the Report's
Printers collection and properties.  This article was a project-saver:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/access/codesamples/defaul
t.aspx?pull=/library/en-us/dnacc2k2/html/odc_acc10_printers.asp

Steve




-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 5:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] PrtDevMode in MDE


You might have a look at On the Fly Printing
 for Access from Attac Software
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/attac-cg/acgsoft.htm

Developer wrote:

>I am trying to  force some values into prtdevmode in a report at 
>runtime, but the code ive always used for this requires the report to 
>be manipulated in design view, which wont work in an MDE. Specifically,

>there is a custom paper size on the pc (11 x 8.5) that I want to 
>hard-code to the report Is there any way to do this in an MDE?
>
>  
>

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Apr 27 00:08:28 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 22:08:28 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K MDE on A2002
References: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPGEAFHGAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <031b01c42c15$ae162a00$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

John:

Thanks. Will forward to my client so he can be aware of this problem.

Regards,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 5:19 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K MDE on A2002


> Rocky,
>
> I think that this is exactly what is going on.  I use a lib as you know.
At
> one client I have a mix of systems running A2K, AXP and A2003.  I develop
in
> A2K.  The non A2K systems REQUIRE a recompile of the lib AND the MDB that
> uses the lib before they will run.  I get a page fault otherwise.
>
> I do know that AXP and above install a new version of VB6.  It appears
that
> this new DLL "breaks" the A2K apps.  Recompiling with AXP uses that VB6
DLL
> and "fixes" whatever the problem is.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 1:59 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] A2K MDE on A2002
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> I had a client call this morning installing a system at a customer site.
He
> took the mdb which was created in A2000, made an mde in A2000, then put
that
> mde on the customer's machine which was running A2002.  It failed on
opening
> the first form with an error that indicated either a compile error or a
> missing reference.
>
> So I had him put the A2000 mdb on the A2002 machine.  Compiled fine.  No
> missing references.  But the 'Make an MDE' button was grayed out.  So I
had
> him convert this A2000 MDB to A2003.  Then he could make an MDE and it ran
> just fine.
>
> So is it the case that an A2000 MDE will not run on A2002 (or A2003)?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Apr 26 23:36:04 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 14:36:04 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Getting incorrect date
Message-ID: <01cb01c42c11$2682f7c0$48619a89@DDICK>

Hello all
Can anyone tell me why dtTimeElapsed  is returning a crap date around 1900 or so?
dtStartDate returns the expected date as does dtTodaysDate 
Many thanks

Darren

Dim dtStartDate As Date
Dim dtTodaysDate As Date
Dim dtTimeElapsed As Date

dtStartDate = DLookup("[EnrolmentDate]", "tblStudentAwardAllocations", "[AwardID] = " _
    & Forms!frmStudents!cmbAwards)
dtTodaysDate = Date
dtTimeElapsed = Format(DateDiff("y", [dtTodaysDate], [dtStartDate]), "m")

MsgBox "EnrolDate = " & dtStartDate & vbCrLf _
& "Today = " & dtTodaysDate & vbCrLf _
& "elapsed = " & dtTimeElapsed


From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Tue Apr 27 03:28:47 2004
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 10:28:47 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] OT - ASP & HTML Logon
Message-ID: <16160288.1083054527817.JavaMail.www@wwinf3004>

To all,
 
Really sorry for the OT but don?t know any good ASP/HTML lists.
 
I am starting to get into writing HTML & ASP (gulp), I have created a HTML logon page (very very very basic) which when you click the Submit button calls an ASP page called CheckLogin.asp (see HTML code below):
 
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<title>Orridge Reporting Logon</title>
</HEAD>
<BODY>
      <FORM METHOD=Post ACTION="CheckLogin.asp">
      Username: <INPUT TYPE=Text NAME="Username">
      <P>
      Password: <INPUT TYPE=Password NAME="Password">
      <P>
      <INPUT TYPE=Reset> <INPUT TYPE=Submit>
      </FORM>
</BODY>
</HTML>
 
The problem being that when the submit button is pressed it tries to download the page instead of checking the username against my database.  Does anyone know what the problem could be ?
 
Thanks in advance for any help on this.
 
Paul Hartland
Database Designer/Developer (and a total novice in WEB development).
Join the UK's number one for the internet 
www.freeserve.com/time

From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 27 03:52:22 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 10:52:22 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Getting incorrect date
In-Reply-To: <01cb01c42c11$2682f7c0$48619a89@DDICK>
References: <01cb01c42c11$2682f7c0$48619a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <7910230741.20040427105222@cactus.dk>

Hi Darren

DateDiff("y", ..) - or rather DateDiff("d", ..) - returns a number of
days. That is not a date.

If you wish a difference in months, use DateDiff("m", ..). However,
that will return one month even if the first date is the last day of
one month and the second date is the first day of the next month. If
you need the count of full months, I have a function which does that.

/gustav


> Can anyone tell me why dtTimeElapsed  is returning a crap date around 1900 or so?
> dtStartDate returns the expected date as does dtTodaysDate 
> Many thanks

> Darren

> Dim dtStartDate As Date
> Dim dtTodaysDate As Date
> Dim dtTimeElapsed As Date

> dtStartDate = DLookup("[EnrolmentDate]", "tblStudentAwardAllocations", "[AwardID] = " _
>     & Forms!frmStudents!cmbAwards)
> dtTodaysDate = Date
> dtTimeElapsed = Format(DateDiff("y", [dtTodaysDate], [dtStartDate]), "m")

> MsgBox "EnrolDate = " & dtStartDate & vbCrLf _
> & "Today = " & dtTodaysDate & vbCrLf _
> & "elapsed = " & dtTimeElapsed



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 27 05:29:58 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 20:29:58 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Getting incorrect date
In-Reply-To: <01cb01c42c11$2682f7c0$48619a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <408EC2C6.4554.2E3D660@localhost>

On 27 Apr 2004 at 14:36, Darren DICK wrote:

> Hello all
> Can anyone tell me why dtTimeElapsed  is returning a crap date around 1900 or so?
> dtStartDate returns the expected date as does dtTodaysDate 
> Many thanks
> 
> 
> Dim dtStartDate As Date
> Dim dtTodaysDate As Date
> Dim dtTimeElapsed As Date
> 

Because an elapsed period is not a date. It is a number.  DateDiff() returns *number* of time periods
Dim dtTimeElapsed as a long  to get the number of  the time periods specified by the first paramter of DateDiff.


 
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From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 27 05:51:39 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 06:51:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access Address to Map in Browser
References: <408EC2C6.4554.2E3D660@localhost>
Message-ID: <000b01c42c45$9ea3d880$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

Group

...in Outlook, I can  open a map of a contact's address in a browser
directly from Outlook as follows:

a) select Contacts on the Outlook Bar or in the folder list.
b) select contact whose address I want to locate.
c) File/Open/Selected Items.
d) Under the Address button, click the arrow, and then click the type of
address I want to find on the map (Business/Home/Other).
e) Actions/Display Map of Address.

...my browser opens to Find a Map at mappoint.msn.com with a push-pin
marking the location of the address.

...has anyone done anything like this via code from Access? ...without using
Outlook?

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein




From rbgajewski at adelphia.net  Tue Apr 27 07:16:41 2004
From: rbgajewski at adelphia.net (Bob Gajewski)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 08:16:41 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access Address to Map in Browser
In-Reply-To: <000b01c42c45$9ea3d880$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
Message-ID: <LHEEKEKNLFONONKPIOCJGEEKGEAA.rbgajewski@adelphia.net>

William

I have a jobs database that creates automatic hyperlinked command buttons
with specific labels that can go to a map system (I think it's Yahoo, not
Mapquest, but the theory is the same) and to the local weather for that
address.

I will post the code in about an hour or so, after my client meeting this
morning.

Regards,
Bob Gajewski


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Hindman
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 06:52
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access Address to Map in Browser


Group

...in Outlook, I can  open a map of a contact's address in a browser
directly from Outlook as follows:

a) select Contacts on the Outlook Bar or in the folder list.
b) select contact whose address I want to locate.
c) File/Open/Selected Items.
d) Under the Address button, click the arrow, and then click the type of
address I want to find on the map (Business/Home/Other).
e) Actions/Display Map of Address.

...my browser opens to Find a Map at mappoint.msn.com with a push-pin
marking the location of the address.

...has anyone done anything like this via code from Access? ...without using
Outlook?

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


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From michael.broesdorf at web.de  Tue Apr 27 07:33:01 2004
From: michael.broesdorf at web.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Michael_Br=F6sdorf?=)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 14:33:01 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Strange problem with reports
In-Reply-To: <LHEEKEKNLFONONKPIOCJGEEKGEAA.rbgajewski@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <NEBBIILOPOPJBCLJIJHHOENBFGAA.michael.broesdorf@web.de>

Hi all,

I am having a strange problem with reports in an Access 2003 application:

The app is running on a Citrix Metaframe XP server. The report is opened in
print preview. If I change something in the page setup (e.g. paper size or
margins), an error message shows up when the report is closed or saves
(CTRL-S):

'You can't set the Event Proc Prefix property in print preview or after
printing has started.
Try setting this property in the OnOpen event.'

None of my code tries to change that property.

What could that be?

Michael



From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Apr 27 08:49:53 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 13:49:53 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access Address to Map in Browser
Message-ID: <20040427124951.1F9BD25362F@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Yep, but I'm afraid it uses the Map24.Com website which is good for Europe
but not the US. I have a country table which holds the Map24 country code
(some differ from mine) in CT_MAPCODE. So I pass the routine my country code
and the Postal Code and, optionally, a description (eg company name) which
appears at the top of the map. It then plugs this info into the Map24
plotting URL and bob's your uncle.

FWIW here's the function (watch the wrapping):

Function MapIt(strCountry As String, varPcode As Variant, Optional varDesc
As String)
Dim varMapCode As Variant
Dim strLink As String

If Not IsNull(varPcode) Then
varMapCode = DLookup("CT_MAPCODE", "CTRY", "CT_CODE='" & strCountry & "'")
If Not IsNull(varMapCode) Then
strLink = "http://link2.map24.com/?lid=0cb4a937&maptype=JAVA&street0=&zip0="
& varPcode & "&city0=&country0=" & varMapCode & "&description0=" & varDesc &
"&lang=en"
Call RunApp(strLink, 1)
End If
End If
End Function

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From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
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To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] Access Address to Map in Browser
Date: 27/04/04 10:53

>
> Group
>
> ....in Outlook, I can  open a map of a contact's address in a browser
> directly from Outlook as follows:
>
> a) select Contacts on the Outlook Bar or in the folder list.
> b) select contact whose address I want to locate.
> c) File/Open/Selected Items.
> d) Under the Address button, click the arrow, and then click the type of
> address I want to find on the map (Business/Home/Other).
> e) Actions/Display Map of Address.
>
> ....my browser opens to Find a Map at mappoint.msn.com with a push-pin
> marking the location of the address.
>
> ....has anyone done anything like this via code from Access? ...without
using
> Outlook?
>
> William Hindman
> &quot;Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code
is
> a violent psychopath who knows where you live.&quot; William Silverstein
>
>
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Tue Apr 27 08:58:14 2004
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 09:58:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Strange problem with reports
Message-ID: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF407AD8231@xlivmbx12.aig.com>

When weird stuff like that starts happening I say, back up the database and
then decompile it. If that does not solve the problem then it's probably
time to start a new database and import all the objects in you problem
database. The report in question may be corrupt and so may not import. It
will have to be rebuilt from scratch.

FWIW

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Michael Br?sdorf [SMTP:michael.broesdorf at web.de]
> Sent:	Tuesday, April 27, 2004 8:33 AM
> To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject:	[AccessD] Strange problem with reports
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I am having a strange problem with reports in an Access 2003 application:
> 
> The app is running on a Citrix Metaframe XP server. The report is opened
> in
> print preview. If I change something in the page setup (e.g. paper size or
> margins), an error message shows up when the report is closed or saves
> (CTRL-S):
> 
> 'You can't set the Event Proc Prefix property in print preview or after
> printing has started.
> Try setting this property in the OnOpen event.'
> 
> None of my code tries to change that property.
> 
> What could that be?
> 
> Michael
> 
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From greggs at msn.com  Tue Apr 27 09:25:01 2004
From: greggs at msn.com (Gregg)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 09:25:01 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] List Box does not show all
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8632C556@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <MOELIKDOANGCHBBIGOLIGEPEECAA.greggs@msn.com>

The list box is trying to display 36 rows but only shows 23.  The query
behind the list is showing 36.  It's seven columns wide.  I thinks all users
are using the same version of A97.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 5:36 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] List Box does not show all


How many rows are you trying to display?  Are you pushing the maximum
that a listbox will display?  Does it fix itself or does the user have
to reconnect to the BE?  I've seen odd behavior like that over a network
with a flaky card in one machine, but I've also seen it when the
machines had different service packs of Jet installed.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Gregg [mailto:greggs at msn.com]
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 8:25 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] List Box does not show all


What causes list boxes to no show the whole list?  Seems to come and go.
It shows up on all users so it must be either the link to the BE or the
BE itself.  Any ideas?

Gregg Steinbrenner


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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 27 09:22:44 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 10:22:44 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] List Box does not show all
In-Reply-To: <MOELIKDOANGCHBBIGOLIGEPEECAA.greggs@msn.com>
Message-ID: <20040427142244.ZPSR1773.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Where are the list items coming from? Sounds like you're using a Table/Query
list, so this wouldn't be the problem, but a Value list is limited in the
number of characters, and with 7 columns, you might have reached it -- if
you're using a Value list. 

Susan H. 

The list box is trying to display 36 rows but only shows 23.  The query
behind the list is showing 36.  It's seven columns wide.  I thinks all users
are using the same version of A97.



From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Apr 27 09:50:07 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 07:50:07 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT - ASP & HTML Logon
In-Reply-To: <16160288.1083054527817.JavaMail.www@wwinf3004>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIOEPOCBAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Paul:

There is so much to say I do not know where to start. If your questions have
not been answered today I will take a closer look this evening.

Jim

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paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 1:29 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] OT - ASP & HTML Logon


To all,

Really sorry for the OT but don?t know any good ASP/HTML lists.

I am starting to get into writing HTML & ASP (gulp), I have created a HTML
logon page (very very very basic) which when you click the Submit button
calls an ASP page called CheckLogin.asp (see HTML code below):

<HTML>
<HEAD>
<title>Orridge Reporting Logon</title>
</HEAD>
<BODY>
      <FORM METHOD=Post ACTION="CheckLogin.asp">
      Username: <INPUT TYPE=Text NAME="Username">
      <P>
      Password: <INPUT TYPE=Password NAME="Password">
      <P>
      <INPUT TYPE=Reset> <INPUT TYPE=Submit>
      </FORM>
</BODY>
</HTML>

The problem being that when the submit button is pressed it tries to
download the page instead of checking the username against my database.
Does anyone know what the problem could be ?

Thanks in advance for any help on this.

Paul Hartland
Database Designer/Developer (and a total novice in WEB development).
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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Tue Apr 27 10:05:23 2004
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 17:05:23 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] OT - ASP & HTML Logon
Message-ID: <14186419.1083078323359.JavaMail.www@wwinf3002>

Jim,
Still waiting thanks
Paul





Message date : Apr 27 2004, 04:01 PM
>From : "Jim Lawrence (AccessD)" 
To : "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
Copy to : 
Subject : RE: [AccessD] OT - ASP & HTML Logon
Hi Paul:

There is so much to say I do not know where to start. If your questions have
not been answered today I will take a closer look this evening.

Jim

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paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 1:29 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] OT - ASP & HTML Logon


To all,

Really sorry for the OT but don?t know any good ASP/HTML lists.

I am starting to get into writing HTML & ASP (gulp), I have created a HTML
logon page (very very very basic) which when you click the Submit button
calls an ASP page called CheckLogin.asp (see HTML code below):








Username: 


Password: 


 





The problem being that when the submit button is pressed it tries to
download the page instead of checking the username against my database.
Does anyone know what the problem could be ?

Thanks in advance for any help on this.

Paul Hartland
Database Designer/Developer (and a total novice in WEB development).
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From rbgajewski at adelphia.net  Tue Apr 27 10:47:16 2004
From: rbgajewski at adelphia.net (Bob Gajewski)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 11:47:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access Address to Map in Browser - LENGTHY REPLY
In-Reply-To: <000b01c42c45$9ea3d880$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
Message-ID: <LHEEKEKNLFONONKPIOCJMEEMGEAA.rbgajewski@adelphia.net>

William:

I placed two command buttons (cmdMap and cmdWeather) on my form and
controlled their value, caption and enabled state through code. This also
uses a US zip code database to automatically populate the Municipality and
StateCode fields.


*********************************************
Private Sub Form_Current()
If IsNull([txtJobMunicipalityName]) Or _
    IsNull([txtJobStateCode]) Or _
    IsNull([txtJobZipCode]) Or _
    [txtJobMunicipalityName] = "" Or _
    [txtJobStateCode] = "" Or _
    [txtJobZipCode] = "" Then
    cmdMap.Enabled = False
    cmdMap.Caption = "Local map not available - address incomplete"
    cmdWeather.Enabled = False
    cmdWeather.Caption = "Local weather not available - address incomplete"
Else
    cmdMap.Enabled = True
    cmdWeather.Enabled = True
End If

If Not IsNull([txtJobZipCode]) And [txtJobZipCode] <> "" Then
    cmdMap.HyperlinkAddress =
"http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?country=US&addtohistory=&address=" &
[txtJobAddress] & "&city=" & [txtJobMunicipalityName] & "&state=" &
[txtJobStateCode] & "&zipcode=" & [txtJobZipCode] &
"&homesubmit.x=30&homesubmit.y=14"
    cmdMap.Caption = "View local map for " & [txtJobMunicipalityName] & ", "
& [txtJobStateCode]
    cmdWeather.HyperlinkAddress = "http://www.weather.com/weather/local/" &
[txtJobZipCode] & "?whatprefs="
    cmdWeather.Caption = "Check local weather in " &
[txtJobMunicipalityName] & ", " & [txtJobStateCode]
End If
End Sub
*********************************************
Private Sub txtJobMunicipalityName_AfterUpdate()
If IsNull([txtJobStateCode]) Or [txtJobStateCode] = "" Then
    Me.txtJobStateCode.SetFocus
End If
If IsNull([txtJobMunicipalityName]) Or _
    IsNull([txtJobStateCode]) Or _
    IsNull([txtJobZipCode]) Or _
    [txtJobMunicipalityName] = "" Or _
    [txtJobStateCode] = "" Or _
    [txtJobZipCode] = "" Then
    cmdMap.Enabled = False
    cmdMap.Caption = "Local map not available - address incomplete"
    cmdWeather.Enabled = False
    cmdWeather.Caption = "Local weather not available - address incomplete"
Else
    cmdMap.Enabled = True
    cmdWeather.Enabled = True
End If
End Sub
*********************************************
Private Sub txtJobStateCode_AfterUpdate()
If IsNull([txtJobMunicipalityName]) Or _
    IsNull([txtJobStateCode]) Or _
    IsNull([txtJobZipCode]) Or _
    [txtJobMunicipalityName] = "" Or _
    [txtJobStateCode] = "" Or _
    [txtJobZipCode] = "" Then
    cmdMap.Enabled = False
    cmdMap.Caption = "Local map not available - address incomplete"
    cmdWeather.Enabled = False
    cmdWeather.Caption = "Local weather not available - address incomplete"
Else
    cmdMap.Enabled = True
    cmdWeather.Enabled = True
End If
End Sub
*********************************************
Private Sub txtJobZipCode_AfterUpdate()
Dim varCMN, varCSC
varCMN = DLookup("[txtMunicipalityName]", "tblZipCodes",
"[tblZipCodes].[txtZipCode] = '" & [txtJobZipCode] & "'")
varCSC = DLookup("[txtStateCode]", "tblZipCodes",
"[tblZipCodes].[txtZipCode] = '" & [txtJobZipCode] & "'")
If Not IsNull(varCMN) Then
    Me.txtJobMunicipalityName = varCMN
    Me.txtJobStateCode = varCSC
Else
    MsgBox "The zip code entered is not on file. Input the municipality name
and select the state."
    Me.txtJobMunicipalityName = Null
    Me.txtJobStateCode = Null
    Me.txtJobMunicipalityName.SetFocus
End If
If IsNull([txtJobMunicipalityName]) Or _
    IsNull([txtJobStateCode]) Or _
    IsNull([txtJobZipCode]) Or _
    [txtJobMunicipalityName] = "" Or _
    [txtJobStateCode] = "" Or _
    [txtJobZipCode] = "" Then
    cmdMap.Enabled = False
    cmdMap.Caption = "Local map not available - address incomplete"
    cmdWeather.Enabled = False
    cmdWeather.Caption = "Local weather not available - address incomplete"
Else
    cmdMap.Enabled = True
    cmdWeather.Enabled = True
End If
If Not IsNull([txtJobZipCode]) And [txtJobZipCode] <> "" Then
    cmdMap.HyperlinkAddress =
"http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?country=US&addtohistory=&address=" &
[txtJobAddress] & "&city=" & [txtJobMunicipalityName] & "&state=" &
[txtJobStateCode] & "&zipcode=" & [txtJobZipCode] &
"&homesubmit.x=30&homesubmit.y=14"
    cmdMap.Caption = "View local map for " & [txtJobMunicipalityName] & ", "
& [txtJobStateCode]
    cmdWeather.HyperlinkAddress = "http://www.weather.com/weather/local/" &
[txtJobZipCode] & "?whatprefs="
    cmdWeather.Caption = "Check local weather in " &
[txtJobMunicipalityName] & ", " & [txtJobStateCode]
End If
End Sub
*********************************************



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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of William
Hindman
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 06:52
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access Address to Map in Browser


Group

...in Outlook, I can  open a map of a contact's address in a browser
directly from Outlook as follows:

a) select Contacts on the Outlook Bar or in the folder list.
b) select contact whose address I want to locate.
c) File/Open/Selected Items.
d) Under the Address button, click the arrow, and then click the type of
address I want to find on the map (Business/Home/Other).
e) Actions/Display Map of Address.

...my browser opens to Find a Map at mappoint.msn.com with a push-pin
marking the location of the address.

...has anyone done anything like this via code from Access? ...without using
Outlook?

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Tue Apr 27 11:19:34 2004
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 09:19:34 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT - ASP & HTML Logon
In-Reply-To: <16160288.1083054527817.JavaMail.www@wwinf3004>
Message-ID: <001301c42c73$6d7c9980$8500a8c0@CX615377a>

One good resource is http://www.4guysfromrolla.com/.

Doug

Douglas Murphy
Murphy's Creativity
(619) 334-5121
doug at murphyscreativity.com
www.murphyscreativity.com




-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 1:29 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] OT - ASP & HTML Logon


To all,
 
Really sorry for the OT but don't know any good ASP/HTML lists.
 
I am starting to get into writing HTML & ASP (gulp), I have created a
HTML logon page (very very very basic) which when you click the Submit
button calls an ASP page called CheckLogin.asp (see HTML code below):
 
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<title>Orridge Reporting Logon</title>
</HEAD>
<BODY>
      <FORM METHOD=Post ACTION="CheckLogin.asp">
      Username: <INPUT TYPE=Text NAME="Username">
      <P>
      Password: <INPUT TYPE=Password NAME="Password">
      <P>
      <INPUT TYPE=Reset> <INPUT TYPE=Submit>
      </FORM>
</BODY>
</HTML>
 
The problem being that when the submit button is pressed it tries to
download the page instead of checking the username against my database.
Does anyone know what the problem could be ?
 
Thanks in advance for any help on this.
 
Paul Hartland
Database Designer/Developer (and a total novice in WEB development).
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From lister at actuarial-files.com  Tue Apr 27 11:21:59 2004
From: lister at actuarial-files.com (Ralf Lister)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:21:59 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT - ASP & HTML Logon
References: <16160288.1083054527817.JavaMail.www@wwinf3004>
Message-ID: <006e01c42c73$db2ee000$13976bce@ralf>

Dear Paul,

sorry I'm a little bit late (as always).

All seems that the code you have given, you saved as ASP-Page. Save it as
HTML-Page. Then it'll work (I tried it on my PWS).

However, it'll not redirect to any other page, it just takes the Username
and Password.

For going to another page after the login (to test if you are authorized),
you have to add:

<%
response.redirect "The_next_page.asp"
%>

BTW, ASP-Pages don't run without server!

HTH
Ralf
Saludos de un Bolivia en peligro
----- Original Message -----
From: <paul.hartland at fsmail.net>
To: "accessd" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 4:28 AM
Subject: [AccessD] OT - ASP & HTML Logon


To all,

Really sorry for the OT but don't know any good ASP/HTML lists.

I am starting to get into writing HTML & ASP (gulp), I have created a HTML
logon page (very very very basic) which when you click the Submit button
calls an ASP page called CheckLogin.asp (see HTML code below):

<HTML>
<HEAD>
<title>Orridge Reporting Logon</title>
</HEAD>
<BODY>
      <FORM METHOD=Post ACTION="CheckLogin.asp">
      Username: <INPUT TYPE=Text NAME="Username">
      <P>
      Password: <INPUT TYPE=Password NAME="Password">
      <P>
      <INPUT TYPE=Reset> <INPUT TYPE=Submit>
      </FORM>
</BODY>
</HTML>

The problem being that when the submit button is pressed it tries to
download the page instead of checking the username against my database.
Does anyone know what the problem could be ?

Thanks in advance for any help on this.

Paul Hartland
Database Designer/Developer (and a total novice in WEB development).
Join the UK's number one for the internet
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From greggs at msn.com  Tue Apr 27 12:12:55 2004
From: greggs at msn.com (Gregg)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:12:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] List Box does not show all
In-Reply-To: <20040427142244.ZPSR1773.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <MOELIKDOANGCHBBIGOLIOEPHECAA.greggs@msn.com>

Susan,

It's a table... here's the source...

SELECT DISTINCTROW [PLastName]+", "+[PFirstName] AS PatientName,
PatientTbl.Address, PatientTbl.City, PatientTbl.Zip, PatientTbl.Phone,
PatientTbl.AdmittingNurse, DateDiff("h",Format([ReferralDate],"mm/dd/yy") &
" " & Format([HourOfReferal],"hh:nn:ss"),Format(Now(),"mm/dd/yy hh:nn:ss"))
AS HoursSinceReferral, PatientTbl.PatientID FROM PatientTbl WHERE
((([PLastName]+", "+[PFirstName]) Is Not Null) AND
((PatientTbl.DenialReason) Is Null) AND ((PatientTbl.dateServiceStart) Is
Null));





-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 9:23 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] List Box does not show all


Where are the list items coming from? Sounds like you're using a Table/Query
list, so this wouldn't be the problem, but a Value list is limited in the
number of characters, and with 7 columns, you might have reached it -- if
you're using a Value list.

Susan H.

The list box is trying to display 36 rows but only shows 23.  The query
behind the list is showing 36.  It's seven columns wide.  I thinks all users
are using the same version of A97.

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Apr 27 12:41:45 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 10:41:45 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] List Box does not show all
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8631274A@infoserver01.infostat.local>

So if you paste that SQL into a query, you get a different number of row
than what shows in the combo?

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Gregg [mailto:greggs at msn.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 9:13 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] List Box does not show all


Susan,

It's a table... here's the source...

SELECT DISTINCTROW [PLastName]+", "+[PFirstName] AS PatientName,
PatientTbl.Address, PatientTbl.City, PatientTbl.Zip, PatientTbl.Phone,
PatientTbl.AdmittingNurse,
DateDiff("h",Format([ReferralDate],"mm/dd/yy") & " " &
Format([HourOfReferal],"hh:nn:ss"),Format(Now(),"mm/dd/yy hh:nn:ss")) AS
HoursSinceReferral, PatientTbl.PatientID FROM PatientTbl WHERE
((([PLastName]+", "+[PFirstName]) Is Not Null) AND
((PatientTbl.DenialReason) Is Null) AND ((PatientTbl.dateServiceStart)
Is Null));





-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 9:23 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] List Box does not show all


Where are the list items coming from? Sounds like you're using a
Table/Query list, so this wouldn't be the problem, but a Value list is
limited in the number of characters, and with 7 columns, you might have
reached it -- if you're using a Value list.

Susan H.

The list box is trying to display 36 rows but only shows 23.  The query
behind the list is showing 36.  It's seven columns wide.  I thinks all
users are using the same version of A97.

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From my.lists at verizon.net  Tue Apr 27 12:49:25 2004
From: my.lists at verizon.net (Francisco H Tapia)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 10:49:25 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
In-Reply-To: <1387056546.20040423104132@cactus.dk>
References: <657FB70438B7D311AF320090279C18010614418F@EXCHMAIL>	<322806795.20040422090018@cactus.dk>
	<408827CE.7060601@verizon.net>
	<1387056546.20040423104132@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <408E9D25.8090609@verizon.net>

Gustav Brock said the following on 4/23/2004 1:41 AM:

>But Christopher didn't refer to SQL Server, that's why I thought it
>would be more relevant to show that this bug is non-existing in Jet SQL.
>  
>
The reason this is even mentioned is because the IN bug is not a SQL 
Server bug at all but an ANSI SQL standard behavior and is even 
mentioned in a KB article here
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;298674
or (http://tinyurl.com/35zgr)

>Further, I guess including the where clause will perform much slower?
>If you really need to do that, couldn't this do (I have no SQL Server
>to play with):
>
>     au_id IN
>     (SELECT au_id FROM Publishers WHERE Publishers.au_id Is Not Null)
>
>/gustav
>
>
>  
>
also accoring to the article fully qualifying the column name clears 
this problem up, which I tested and confirmed.

-- 
-Francisco




From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 27 14:34:10 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 21:34:10 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Query fails when using NOT IN ???
In-Reply-To: <408E9D25.8090609@verizon.net>
References: <657FB70438B7D311AF320090279C18010614418F@EXCHMAIL>
	<322806795.20040422090018@cactus.dk> <408827CE.7060601@verizon.net>
	<1387056546.20040423104132@cactus.dk> <408E9D25.8090609@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <1448738802.20040427213410@cactus.dk>

Hi Francisco

OK, thanks for the clarification.

/gustav


>>But Christopher didn't refer to SQL Server, that's why I thought it
>>would be more relevant to show that this bug is non-existing in Jet SQL.
>>  
>>
> The reason this is even mentioned is because the IN bug is not a SQL 
> Server bug at all but an ANSI SQL standard behavior and is even 
> mentioned in a KB article here
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;298674
> or (http://tinyurl.com/35zgr)

>>Further, I guess including the where clause will perform much slower?
>>If you really need to do that, couldn't this do (I have no SQL Server
>>to play with):
>>
>>     au_id IN
>>     (SELECT au_id FROM Publishers WHERE Publishers.au_id Is Not Null)
>>
>>/gustav
>>
>>
>>  
>>
> also accoring to the article fully qualifying the column name clears 
> this problem up, which I tested and confirmed.

> -- 
> -Francisco



From greggs at msn.com  Tue Apr 27 15:04:15 2004
From: greggs at msn.com (Gregg)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 15:04:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] List Box does not show all
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8631274A@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <MOELIKDOANGCHBBIGOLIOEPNECAA.greggs@msn.com>

Yes... that's true.  Here's a recap of the facts.

1. The problem comes and goes.  It happened a couple of weeks ago but by the
time they went to show it to me it was gone.  I didn't believe them of
course until it happened again this week and I could see it.  I fooled with
it and it went away but when I undid my changes it didn't come back... very
weird. I've seen this before at another customer using A97 where the list
would go from say "A" to "M" and that's all.  That was a much longer list
but only 2 columns wide.

2. When it happens it happens everywhere

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 12:42 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] List Box does not show all


So if you paste that SQL into a query, you get a different number of row
than what shows in the combo?

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Gregg [mailto:greggs at msn.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 9:13 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] List Box does not show all


Susan,

It's a table... here's the source...

SELECT DISTINCTROW [PLastName]+", "+[PFirstName] AS PatientName,
PatientTbl.Address, PatientTbl.City, PatientTbl.Zip, PatientTbl.Phone,
PatientTbl.AdmittingNurse,
DateDiff("h",Format([ReferralDate],"mm/dd/yy") & " " &
Format([HourOfReferal],"hh:nn:ss"),Format(Now(),"mm/dd/yy hh:nn:ss")) AS
HoursSinceReferral, PatientTbl.PatientID FROM PatientTbl WHERE
((([PLastName]+", "+[PFirstName]) Is Not Null) AND
((PatientTbl.DenialReason) Is Null) AND ((PatientTbl.dateServiceStart)
Is Null));





-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 9:23 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] List Box does not show all


Where are the list items coming from? Sounds like you're using a
Table/Query list, so this wouldn't be the problem, but a Value list is
limited in the number of characters, and with 7 columns, you might have
reached it -- if you're using a Value list.

Susan H.

The list box is trying to display 36 rows but only shows 23.  The query
behind the list is showing 36.  It's seven columns wide.  I thinks all
users are using the same version of A97.

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From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 27 16:09:56 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 17:09:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access Address to Map in Browser - LENGTHY REPLY
References: <LHEEKEKNLFONONKPIOCJMEEMGEAA.rbgajewski@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <000801c42c9c$12ae2720$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...terrific Bob! ...between you and Andy I've got exactly what I need
...AccessD rules! :)))))))

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Gajewski" <rbgajewski at adelphia.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 11:47 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access Address to Map in Browser - LENGTHY REPLY


> William:
>
> I placed two command buttons (cmdMap and cmdWeather) on my form and
> controlled their value, caption and enabled state through code. This also
> uses a US zip code database to automatically populate the Municipality and
> StateCode fields.
>
>
> *********************************************
> Private Sub Form_Current()
> If IsNull([txtJobMunicipalityName]) Or _
>     IsNull([txtJobStateCode]) Or _
>     IsNull([txtJobZipCode]) Or _
>     [txtJobMunicipalityName] = "" Or _
>     [txtJobStateCode] = "" Or _
>     [txtJobZipCode] = "" Then
>     cmdMap.Enabled = False
>     cmdMap.Caption = "Local map not available - address incomplete"
>     cmdWeather.Enabled = False
>     cmdWeather.Caption = "Local weather not available - address
incomplete"
> Else
>     cmdMap.Enabled = True
>     cmdWeather.Enabled = True
> End If
>
> If Not IsNull([txtJobZipCode]) And [txtJobZipCode] <> "" Then
>     cmdMap.HyperlinkAddress =
> "http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?country=US&addtohistory=&address=" &
> [txtJobAddress] & "&city=" & [txtJobMunicipalityName] & "&state=" &
> [txtJobStateCode] & "&zipcode=" & [txtJobZipCode] &
> "&homesubmit.x=30&homesubmit.y=14"
>     cmdMap.Caption = "View local map for " & [txtJobMunicipalityName] & ",
"
> & [txtJobStateCode]
>     cmdWeather.HyperlinkAddress = "http://www.weather.com/weather/local/"
&
> [txtJobZipCode] & "?whatprefs="
>     cmdWeather.Caption = "Check local weather in " &
> [txtJobMunicipalityName] & ", " & [txtJobStateCode]
> End If
> End Sub
> *********************************************
> Private Sub txtJobMunicipalityName_AfterUpdate()
> If IsNull([txtJobStateCode]) Or [txtJobStateCode] = "" Then
>     Me.txtJobStateCode.SetFocus
> End If
> If IsNull([txtJobMunicipalityName]) Or _
>     IsNull([txtJobStateCode]) Or _
>     IsNull([txtJobZipCode]) Or _
>     [txtJobMunicipalityName] = "" Or _
>     [txtJobStateCode] = "" Or _
>     [txtJobZipCode] = "" Then
>     cmdMap.Enabled = False
>     cmdMap.Caption = "Local map not available - address incomplete"
>     cmdWeather.Enabled = False
>     cmdWeather.Caption = "Local weather not available - address
incomplete"
> Else
>     cmdMap.Enabled = True
>     cmdWeather.Enabled = True
> End If
> End Sub
> *********************************************
> Private Sub txtJobStateCode_AfterUpdate()
> If IsNull([txtJobMunicipalityName]) Or _
>     IsNull([txtJobStateCode]) Or _
>     IsNull([txtJobZipCode]) Or _
>     [txtJobMunicipalityName] = "" Or _
>     [txtJobStateCode] = "" Or _
>     [txtJobZipCode] = "" Then
>     cmdMap.Enabled = False
>     cmdMap.Caption = "Local map not available - address incomplete"
>     cmdWeather.Enabled = False
>     cmdWeather.Caption = "Local weather not available - address
incomplete"
> Else
>     cmdMap.Enabled = True
>     cmdWeather.Enabled = True
> End If
> End Sub
> *********************************************
> Private Sub txtJobZipCode_AfterUpdate()
> Dim varCMN, varCSC
> varCMN = DLookup("[txtMunicipalityName]", "tblZipCodes",
> "[tblZipCodes].[txtZipCode] = '" & [txtJobZipCode] & "'")
> varCSC = DLookup("[txtStateCode]", "tblZipCodes",
> "[tblZipCodes].[txtZipCode] = '" & [txtJobZipCode] & "'")
> If Not IsNull(varCMN) Then
>     Me.txtJobMunicipalityName = varCMN
>     Me.txtJobStateCode = varCSC
> Else
>     MsgBox "The zip code entered is not on file. Input the municipality
name
> and select the state."
>     Me.txtJobMunicipalityName = Null
>     Me.txtJobStateCode = Null
>     Me.txtJobMunicipalityName.SetFocus
> End If
> If IsNull([txtJobMunicipalityName]) Or _
>     IsNull([txtJobStateCode]) Or _
>     IsNull([txtJobZipCode]) Or _
>     [txtJobMunicipalityName] = "" Or _
>     [txtJobStateCode] = "" Or _
>     [txtJobZipCode] = "" Then
>     cmdMap.Enabled = False
>     cmdMap.Caption = "Local map not available - address incomplete"
>     cmdWeather.Enabled = False
>     cmdWeather.Caption = "Local weather not available - address
incomplete"
> Else
>     cmdMap.Enabled = True
>     cmdWeather.Enabled = True
> End If
> If Not IsNull([txtJobZipCode]) And [txtJobZipCode] <> "" Then
>     cmdMap.HyperlinkAddress =
> "http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?country=US&addtohistory=&address=" &
> [txtJobAddress] & "&city=" & [txtJobMunicipalityName] & "&state=" &
> [txtJobStateCode] & "&zipcode=" & [txtJobZipCode] &
> "&homesubmit.x=30&homesubmit.y=14"
>     cmdMap.Caption = "View local map for " & [txtJobMunicipalityName] & ",
"
> & [txtJobStateCode]
>     cmdWeather.HyperlinkAddress = "http://www.weather.com/weather/local/"
&
> [txtJobZipCode] & "?whatprefs="
>     cmdWeather.Caption = "Check local weather in " &
> [txtJobMunicipalityName] & ", " & [txtJobStateCode]
> End If
> End Sub
> *********************************************
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of William
> Hindman
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 06:52
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Access Address to Map in Browser
>
>
> Group
>
> ...in Outlook, I can  open a map of a contact's address in a browser
> directly from Outlook as follows:
>
> a) select Contacts on the Outlook Bar or in the folder list.
> b) select contact whose address I want to locate.
> c) File/Open/Selected Items.
> d) Under the Address button, click the arrow, and then click the type of
> address I want to find on the map (Business/Home/Other).
> e) Actions/Display Map of Address.
>
> ...my browser opens to Find a Map at mappoint.msn.com with a push-pin
> marking the location of the address.
>
> ...has anyone done anything like this via code from Access? ...without
using
> Outlook?
>
> William Hindman
> "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
> a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein
>
>
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From rbgajewski at adelphia.net  Tue Apr 27 16:15:19 2004
From: rbgajewski at adelphia.net (Bob Gajewski)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 17:15:19 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access Address to Map in Browser - LENGTHY REPLY
In-Reply-To: <000801c42c9c$12ae2720$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
Message-ID: <LHEEKEKNLFONONKPIOCJCEFBGEAA.rbgajewski@adelphia.net>

William

Always glad to help! Believe me - you have helped me more times than you
know, with your answers to others!

Let me know if you also want the US zip code database; I can send it offline
(to anyone).

Regards,
Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of William
Hindman
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 17:10
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Address to Map in Browser - LENGTHY REPLY


...terrific Bob! ...between you and Andy I've got exactly what I need
...AccessD rules! :)))))))

William Hindman
"Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is
a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein





From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Tue Apr 27 18:20:06 2004
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 09:20:06 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Re:Mail Merge form letters
Message-ID: <OFE336FA65.5703DD6E-ONCA256E83.00801146@agric.nsw.gov.au>


Thanks Marty

The pages on mail merge were very informative.

I guess sometimes you just have to know where to look :)

Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Agriculture
Orange



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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Apr 27 19:34:31 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 20:34:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] List Box does not show all
In-Reply-To: <MOELIKDOANGCHBBIGOLIOEPNECAA.greggs@msn.com>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPMECEHGAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

I have seen this too.  It had to do with the wrong number of columns in the
combo's column property vs the number in the sql statement.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gregg
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 4:04 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] List Box does not show all


Yes... that's true.  Here's a recap of the facts.

1. The problem comes and goes.  It happened a couple of weeks ago but by the
time they went to show it to me it was gone.  I didn't believe them of
course until it happened again this week and I could see it.  I fooled with
it and it went away but when I undid my changes it didn't come back... very
weird. I've seen this before at another customer using A97 where the list
would go from say "A" to "M" and that's all.  That was a much longer list
but only 2 columns wide.

2. When it happens it happens everywhere

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 12:42 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] List Box does not show all


So if you paste that SQL into a query, you get a different number of row
than what shows in the combo?

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Gregg [mailto:greggs at msn.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 9:13 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] List Box does not show all


Susan,

It's a table... here's the source...

SELECT DISTINCTROW [PLastName]+", "+[PFirstName] AS PatientName,
PatientTbl.Address, PatientTbl.City, PatientTbl.Zip, PatientTbl.Phone,
PatientTbl.AdmittingNurse,
DateDiff("h",Format([ReferralDate],"mm/dd/yy") & " " &
Format([HourOfReferal],"hh:nn:ss"),Format(Now(),"mm/dd/yy hh:nn:ss")) AS
HoursSinceReferral, PatientTbl.PatientID FROM PatientTbl WHERE
((([PLastName]+", "+[PFirstName]) Is Not Null) AND
((PatientTbl.DenialReason) Is Null) AND ((PatientTbl.dateServiceStart)
Is Null));





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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 9:23 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] List Box does not show all


Where are the list items coming from? Sounds like you're using a
Table/Query list, so this wouldn't be the problem, but a Value list is
limited in the number of characters, and with 7 columns, you might have
reached it -- if you're using a Value list.

Susan H.

The list box is trying to display 36 rows but only shows 23.  The query
behind the list is showing 36.  It's seven columns wide.  I thinks all
users are using the same version of A97.

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From sgoodhall at comcast.net  Tue Apr 27 20:24:05 2004
From: sgoodhall at comcast.net (Steve Goodhall)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 21:24:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] UNION Queries
In-Reply-To: <OFE336FA65.5703DD6E-ONCA256E83.00801146@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <GOEIJOAPGAMPLIOCMEPMCEOIDNAA.sgoodhall@comcast.net>

Has anybody had any weird problems with UNION queries.  I have a UNION of 4
SELECTS that returns 257 records when opened in the query tool, but only 18
when processed as a recordset.  Running in A2K. Any thoughts?

Thanks

Steve Goodhall


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 27 21:29:28 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 12:29:28 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] UNION Queries
In-Reply-To: <GOEIJOAPGAMPLIOCMEPMCEOIDNAA.sgoodhall@comcast.net>
References: <OFE336FA65.5703DD6E-ONCA256E83.00801146@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <408FA3A8.30339.1042F4C@localhost>

On 27 Apr 2004 at 21:24, Steve Goodhall wrote:

> Has anybody had any weird problems with UNION queries.  I have a UNION of 4
> SELECTS that returns 257 records when opened in the query tool, but only 18
> when processed as a recordset.  Running in A2K. Any thoughts?
> 

Are all 257 different?

I'd guess that the Query will have the UniqueRecords property set to 
No. Try using UNION ALL in the recordset.




 
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From terry.mace at baesystems.com  Tue Apr 27 21:53:58 2004
From: terry.mace at baesystems.com (MACE, Terry)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 12:23:58 +0930
Subject: [AccessD] User Defined Properties A97
Message-ID: <B20C5B1CB8A30543BD7A9F173F29CCFDAABB31@abw2ex1.au.baesystems.com>

I'm trying to use a custom property to store some changing information,
which works fine, but when I try to read it, it only returns the value that
was present when the database was opened.

Is this the way it works or can I read the changed info. I'm using the
following code to read the property 'Reference':

DBEngine(0)(0).Containers("Databases").Documents("UserDefined").Properties("
reference")

Terry Mace


From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Apr 28 01:26:39 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 16:26:39 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Getting incorrect date
References: <408EC2C6.4554.2E3D660@localhost>
Message-ID: <002701c42ce9$c4074770$48619a89@DDICK>

Thanks Stuart
Exactly what i needed

Darren

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Darren DICK" <d.dick at uws.edu.au>; "Access Developers discussion and problemsolving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Getting incorrect date


> On 27 Apr 2004 at 14:36, Darren DICK wrote:
> 
> > Hello all
> > Can anyone tell me why dtTimeElapsed  is returning a crap date around 1900 or so?
> > dtStartDate returns the expected date as does dtTodaysDate 
> > Many thanks
> > 
> > 
> > Dim dtStartDate As Date
> > Dim dtTodaysDate As Date
> > Dim dtTimeElapsed As Date
> > 
> 
> Because an elapsed period is not a date. It is a number.  DateDiff() returns *number* of time periods
> Dim dtTimeElapsed as a long  to get the number of  the time periods specified by the first paramter of DateDiff.
> 
> 
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From mwp.reid at queens-belfast.ac.uk  Wed Apr 28 05:49:12 2004
From: mwp.reid at queens-belfast.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 11:49:12 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
Subject: [AccessD] OT Ignore
In-Reply-To: <LHEEKEKNLFONONKPIOCJCEFBGEAA.rbgajewski@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <SIMEON.10404281112.B@TUG00001.fujin.qub.ac.uk>


Test

11.40am




Martin WP Reid
Information Services
Queens University Belfast

Tel: (02890) 273750


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From BarbaraRyan at cox.net  Wed Apr 28 07:17:47 2004
From: BarbaraRyan at cox.net (Barbara Ryan)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 08:17:47 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Capture value when deleting a a record
Message-ID: <005001c42d1a$d1902160$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>

In an Access 97 application, I have a form that displays records from a table.  When a user deletes a record, I want to first capture the value in the key field and store it in a variable.  However, when the OnDelete event occurs, the record has already been deleted to a buffer.  I've also tried Form_Current but it's not available there either.  Aside from capturing all the possible keystrokes (that will delete a reord) in KeyDown, how can I capture a field value on a delete?

Thanks,
Barb Ryan

From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Apr 28 07:47:25 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 22:47:25 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Capture value when deleting a a record
In-Reply-To: <005001c42d1a$d1902160$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
Message-ID: <4090347D.26259.339EB8C@localhost>

On 28 Apr 2004 at 8:17, Barbara Ryan wrote:

> In an Access 97 application, I have a form that displays records from
> a table.  When a user deletes a record, I want to first capture the
> value in the key field and store it in a variable.  However, when the
> OnDelete event occurs, the record has already been deleted to a
> buffer.  

No it isn't. It does not get deleted  until after the OnDelete and 
before the DeleteConfirm.

You *can* store the current Key in the OnDelete into a form or global 
variable. I do it frequently.

>I've also tried Form_Current but it's not available there
> either.  

You must be doing something else wrong. It is also available there (I 
capture it at that point on occasions as well)

How about posting your form's code to see what is happening?



 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Apr 28 07:51:59 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 08:51:59 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Capture value when deleting a a record
In-Reply-To: <005001c42d1a$d1902160$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPEECHHGAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

Capture it in OnCurrent (as you move to the record).  That way you already
have it when the delete occurs.  When you sense the delete, store that
already captured value.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Barbara Ryan
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 8:18 AM
To: Access List
Subject: [AccessD] Capture value when deleting a a record


In an Access 97 application, I have a form that displays records from a
table.  When a user deletes a record, I want to first capture the value in
the key field and store it in a variable.  However, when the OnDelete event
occurs, the record has already been deleted to a buffer.  I've also tried
Form_Current but it's not available there either.  Aside from capturing all
the possible keystrokes (that will delete a reord) in KeyDown, how can I
capture a field value on a delete?

Thanks,
Barb Ryan
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From BarbaraRyan at cox.net  Wed Apr 28 07:59:23 2004
From: BarbaraRyan at cox.net (Barbara Ryan)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 08:59:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Capture value when deleting a a record
References: <4090347D.26259.339EB8C@localhost>
Message-ID: <007101c42d20$a160de20$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>

I will look at my code again and try to see what the heck I'm doing!  Thanks


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problemsolving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Capture value when deleting a a record


> On 28 Apr 2004 at 8:17, Barbara Ryan wrote:
>
> > In an Access 97 application, I have a form that displays records from
> > a table.  When a user deletes a record, I want to first capture the
> > value in the key field and store it in a variable.  However, when the
> > OnDelete event occurs, the record has already been deleted to a
> > buffer.
>
> No it isn't. It does not get deleted  until after the OnDelete and
> before the DeleteConfirm.
>
> You *can* store the current Key in the OnDelete into a form or global
> variable. I do it frequently.
>
> >I've also tried Form_Current but it's not available there
> > either.
>
> You must be doing something else wrong. It is also available there (I
> capture it at that point on occasions as well)
>
> How about posting your form's code to see what is happening?
>
>
>
>
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From susanj at sgmeet.com  Wed Apr 28 10:13:19 2004
From: susanj at sgmeet.com (Susan Jones)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 10:13:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] TIMS
In-Reply-To: <007101c42d20$a160de20$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
References: <4090347D.26259.339EB8C@localhost>
	<007101c42d20$a160de20$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20040428100131.03cbdc88@mail.sgmeet.com>

Has anyone heard of or used a product from TIMS for online data management 
(shopping cart kind of set-up)?  I'm searching Google and haven't been able 
to bring up an actual company.  We've been asked to submit a bid for data 
management and, per their letter, the system currently used is "a fairly 
new product they purchased from TIMS."
Thanks,
Susan 



From EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us  Wed Apr 28 10:23:13 2004
From: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us (Tesiny, Ed)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 11:23:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] TIMS
Message-ID: <FED384E544086A47AAC07C0999BE8D1701E05241@albmsx2k.rt.oasas.state.ny.us>


Found this at http://www.software-x.com/software/storage-management.html
TIMS Inc
Producers of SAPERION, a comprehensive solution for imaging, document
management, storage management, COLD, and scripting workflow.
SAPERION(r) is an " All in One, Ready to Run" integrated knowledge
management and eBusiness software solution for capturing, imaging, COLD,
digital signatures, DMS, storage & archiving and workflow. 


Ed Tesiny
EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Jones [mailto:susanj at sgmeet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 11:13 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] TIMS

Has anyone heard of or used a product from TIMS for online data
management 
(shopping cart kind of set-up)?  I'm searching Google and haven't been
able 
to bring up an actual company.  We've been asked to submit a bid for
data 
management and, per their letter, the system currently used is "a fairly

new product they purchased from TIMS."
Thanks,
Susan 

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From PBudge at cbsol.com  Wed Apr 28 10:46:33 2004
From: PBudge at cbsol.com (PBudge at cbsol.com)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 10:46:33 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] TIMS
Message-ID: <OFB191080B.E940DC87-ON86256E84.00569BE4@cbsol.com>


http://www.timstech.com/tech/

Pamela G. Budge
PBudge at cbsol.com
Creative Business Solutions


                                                                                                                                               
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Has anyone heard of or used a product from TIMS for online data management
(shopping cart kind of set-up)?  I'm searching Google and haven't been able

to bring up an actual company.  We've been asked to submit a bid for data
management and, per their letter, the system currently used is "a fairly
new product they purchased from TIMS."
Thanks,
Susan

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From jmoss111 at bellsouth.net  Wed Apr 28 10:40:53 2004
From: jmoss111 at bellsouth.net (JMoss)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 10:40:53 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] TIMS
In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20040428100131.03cbdc88@mail.sgmeet.com>
Message-ID: <OKEMICJGPJCMJCCHGNDEEEENCEAA.jmoss111@bellsouth.net>

The link below to a company named TIMS doesn't mention a shopping cart but
it does mention data management.


http://www.timsinc.com/index.html


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Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 10:13 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] TIMS


Has anyone heard of or used a product from TIMS for online data management
(shopping cart kind of set-up)?  I'm searching Google and haven't been able
to bring up an actual company.  We've been asked to submit a bid for data
management and, per their letter, the system currently used is "a fairly
new product they purchased from TIMS."
Thanks,
Susan

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From doug at starntech.com  Wed Apr 28 11:03:41 2004
From: doug at starntech.com (Douglas Barnes)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 12:03:41 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Subform to Subform Updating
Message-ID: <NDBBJLJAILLNMMEMJPEEIEONGLAA.doug@starntech.com>

I have a main form with 2 subforms (sub1, sub2). I can add records to sub1
as it is related to the main form. I can't seem to add records to sub2,
which is related to sub1.

Any insight on this would be appreciated.


Douglas Barnes
Starn Technical Services
P. O. 1172
Meadville, PA 16335

814.724.1045

doug at starntech.com
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From susanj at sgmeet.com  Wed Apr 28 11:20:10 2004
From: susanj at sgmeet.com (Susan Jones)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 11:20:10 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] TIMS
In-Reply-To: <OFB191080B.E940DC87-ON86256E84.00569BE4@cbsol.com>
References: <OFB191080B.E940DC87-ON86256E84.00569BE4@cbsol.com>
Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20040428111945.03c13ce0@mail.sgmeet.com>

Thank you all!  At least I have a couple of places to start now!
Susan



From michael.broesdorf at web.de  Wed Apr 28 11:31:14 2004
From: michael.broesdorf at web.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Michael_Br=F6sdorf?=)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 18:31:14 +0200
Subject: AW: [AccessD] Subform to Subform Updating
In-Reply-To: <NDBBJLJAILLNMMEMJPEEIEONGLAA.doug@starntech.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBIILOPOPJBCLJIJHHOEOCFGAA.michael.broesdorf@web.de>

If sub2 is a subform of the main form (i.e. not a subform of sub1), sub2
does not 'see' anything
entered in sub1 since it is linked to the main form.

However, if you put an (invisible) textbox on the main form, that contains
the primary key of sub1, you can link sub2 to that textbox on the main form.

If you now select a record in sub1, it's primary key will show up in the
textbox. Sub2 will then in turn related data.

HTH,

Michael

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Douglas
Barnes
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. April 2004 18:04
An: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Betreff: [AccessD] Subform to Subform Updating


I have a main form with 2 subforms (sub1, sub2). I can add records to sub1
as it is related to the main form. I can't seem to add records to sub2,
which is related to sub1.

Any insight on this would be appreciated.


Douglas Barnes
Starn Technical Services
P. O. 1172
Meadville, PA 16335

814.724.1045

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From doug at starntech.com  Wed Apr 28 13:16:14 2004
From: doug at starntech.com (Douglas Barnes)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 14:16:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Subform to Subform Updating
In-Reply-To: <NEBBIILOPOPJBCLJIJHHOEOCFGAA.michael.broesdorf@web.de>
Message-ID: <NDBBJLJAILLNMMEMJPEEKEPAGLAA.doug@starntech.com>

I have the hidden control on the main form, sorry 'bout that. sub2 does
indeed return the correct data. Problem arises when i try to add another
record in sub2.

Douglas Barnes
Starn Technical Services
P. O. 1172
Meadville, PA 16335

814.724.1045

doug at starntech.com
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Michael
Br?sdorf
Sent: April 28, 2004 12:31 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: AW: [AccessD] Subform to Subform Updating


If sub2 is a subform of the main form (i.e. not a subform of sub1), sub2
does not 'see' anything
entered in sub1 since it is linked to the main form.

However, if you put an (invisible) textbox on the main form, that contains
the primary key of sub1, you can link sub2 to that textbox on the main form.

If you now select a record in sub1, it's primary key will show up in the
textbox. Sub2 will then in turn related data.

HTH,

Michael

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Barnes
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. April 2004 18:04
An: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Betreff: [AccessD] Subform to Subform Updating


I have a main form with 2 subforms (sub1, sub2). I can add records to sub1
as it is related to the main form. I can't seem to add records to sub2,
which is related to sub1.

Any insight on this would be appreciated.


Douglas Barnes
Starn Technical Services
P. O. 1172
Meadville, PA 16335

814.724.1045

doug at starntech.com
www.starntech.com

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From greggs at msn.com  Wed Apr 28 14:10:08 2004
From: greggs at msn.com (Gregg)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 14:10:08 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] List Box does not show all
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPMECEHGAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <MOELIKDOANGCHBBIGOLIKEBAEDAA.greggs@msn.com>

That sounds like something I would do but I didn't on this one.

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Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 7:35 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] List Box does not show all


I have seen this too.  It had to do with the wrong number of columns in the
combo's column property vs the number in the sql statement.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 4:04 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] List Box does not show all


Yes... that's true.  Here's a recap of the facts.

1. The problem comes and goes.  It happened a couple of weeks ago but by the
time they went to show it to me it was gone.  I didn't believe them of
course until it happened again this week and I could see it.  I fooled with
it and it went away but when I undid my changes it didn't come back... very
weird. I've seen this before at another customer using A97 where the list
would go from say "A" to "M" and that's all.  That was a much longer list
but only 2 columns wide.

2. When it happens it happens everywhere

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Foust
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 12:42 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] List Box does not show all


So if you paste that SQL into a query, you get a different number of row
than what shows in the combo?

Charlotte Foust

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Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 9:13 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] List Box does not show all


Susan,

It's a table... here's the source...

SELECT DISTINCTROW [PLastName]+", "+[PFirstName] AS PatientName,
PatientTbl.Address, PatientTbl.City, PatientTbl.Zip, PatientTbl.Phone,
PatientTbl.AdmittingNurse,
DateDiff("h",Format([ReferralDate],"mm/dd/yy") & " " &
Format([HourOfReferal],"hh:nn:ss"),Format(Now(),"mm/dd/yy hh:nn:ss")) AS
HoursSinceReferral, PatientTbl.PatientID FROM PatientTbl WHERE
((([PLastName]+", "+[PFirstName]) Is Not Null) AND
((PatientTbl.DenialReason) Is Null) AND ((PatientTbl.dateServiceStart)
Is Null));





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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 9:23 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] List Box does not show all


Where are the list items coming from? Sounds like you're using a
Table/Query list, so this wouldn't be the problem, but a Value list is
limited in the number of characters, and with 7 columns, you might have
reached it -- if you're using a Value list.

Susan H.

The list box is trying to display 36 rows but only shows 23.  The query
behind the list is showing 36.  It's seven columns wide.  I thinks all
users are using the same version of A97.

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From Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com  Wed Apr 28 14:00:31 2004
From: Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com (Lavsa, Rich)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 15:00:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls AND TIME Controls
Message-ID: <833956F5C117124A89417638FDB11290EBD159@goexchange.pghcorning.com>

Whenever you get it done let me know or post it to the list.  I'll gladly be
a BETA tester...

Rich

-----Original Message-----
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 4:23 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar Controls AND TIME Controls


Well if you can wait, the next item I'm adding to the beta version of my
MiniCalendar is a time/clock portion.

No idea when I'll have it done though...not very timely I guess! LOL

Drew

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Lavsa, Rich
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 2:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls AND TIME Controls


I always hear about Calendar Controls and have used a few of them.  I was
wondering if anyone out there has a Time control.  I have a very time
sensitive application where the technicians have to enter Date and Time on
and Date and Time off.  The time is essential to knowing how long the piece
ran with or without defects in the product to know whether to fix it or use
that mold as a template for others if it was working properly over a long
period of time (long could be 16+ hours due to the harsh environment).  

Anyway, back to my question.  I have a Date/Time field for ON and OFF,
currently I have a text box that is populated with a pop up calendar or by
typing in text, works great.  I also have another unbound field that is used
purely for Time entry, of which the user must type it in as ##:## AM/PM,
then upon exit it concatenates that information with the Date information to
make a complete Date/Time field.. Does anyone know of a Time control or a
better way to achieve this type of functionality other then the Date and
Time Active X control.

Thanks in Advance,
Rich

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From Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com  Wed Apr 28 15:22:32 2004
From: Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com (Jeff Barrows)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 15:22:32 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97
Message-ID: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE63050032673@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com>

It has been a while since I needed to add a memo field to a report and I cannot seem to remember, is the memo field limited to 255 char. on the report?  And if so, could it then limit my memo field to the same 255 chars?

 

TIA

Jeff Barrows  



From EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us  Wed Apr 28 15:27:05 2004
From: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us (Tesiny, Ed)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 16:27:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97
Message-ID: <FED384E544086A47AAC07C0999BE8D1701E05245@albmsx2k.rt.oasas.state.ny.us>

For memo fields the max. number of characters is 64,000. 


Ed Tesiny
EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Barrows [mailto:Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 4:23 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97

It has been a while since I needed to add a memo field to a report and I
cannot seem to remember, is the memo field limited to 255 char. on the
report?  And if so, could it then limit my memo field to the same 255
chars?

 

TIA

Jeff Barrows  

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From DElam at jenkens.com  Wed Apr 28 15:28:23 2004
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 15:28:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0106BE64@natexch.jenkens.com>

The text field is limited to 255 characters.  If you do not need more than
this use the text field.  The memo field is more prone to corruption.  

You can limit the number of characters on the report by using the LEFT$
function, if you want to do that.

Debbie

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From: Jeff Barrows [mailto:Jeff at outbaktech.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 3:23 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97


It has been a while since I needed to add a memo field to a report and I
cannot seem to remember, is the memo field limited to 255 char. on the
report?  And if so, could it then limit my memo field to the same 255 chars?

 

TIA

Jeff Barrows  

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From CMackin at Quiznos.com  Wed Apr 28 15:40:50 2004
From: CMackin at Quiznos.com (Mackin, Christopher)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 14:40:50 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97
Message-ID: <19F28F0B4284C04FB90CAA380451FFD9412722@bross.quiznos.net>

It's limited when used with a GROUP BY or DISTINCT SQL statement as the
recordsource.  All you need to do is, if you require DISTINCT OR GROUP BY,
leave the PK to the Memo field in that query, then, at the highlest level of
your query link back to the Memo field and grab it there.

Chris Mackin

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Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 2:23 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97


It has been a while since I needed to add a memo field to a report and I
cannot seem to remember, is the memo field limited to 255 char. on the
report?  And if so, could it then limit my memo field to the same 255 chars?

 

TIA

Jeff Barrows  

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From Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com  Wed Apr 28 15:43:11 2004
From: Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com (Jeff Barrows)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 15:43:11 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97
Message-ID: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE63050032674@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com>

OK, I stated my question wrong.  I have a report in access 97 that needs to display the contents of a memo field.  How can I do this without some (most) of my data being dropped?

	-----Original Message----- 
	From: Tesiny, Ed [mailto:EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us] 
	Sent: Wed 4/28/2004 3:27 PM 
	To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
	Cc: 
	Subject: RE: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97
	
	

	For memo fields the max. number of characters is 64,000.
	
	
	Ed Tesiny
	EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us
	
	-----Original Message-----
	From: Jeff Barrows [mailto:Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com]
	Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 4:23 PM
	To: AccessD
	Subject: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97
	
	It has been a while since I needed to add a memo field to a report and I
	cannot seem to remember, is the memo field limited to 255 char. on the
	report?  And if so, could it then limit my memo field to the same 255
	chars?
	
	
	
	TIA
	
	Jeff Barrows 
	
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From DElam at jenkens.com  Wed Apr 28 15:52:13 2004
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 15:52:13 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0106BE65@natexch.jenkens.com>

Set the field to be able to grow.  It will expand to fit everything.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Barrows [mailto:Jeff at outbaktech.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 3:43 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97


OK, I stated my question wrong.  I have a report in access 97 that needs to
display the contents of a memo field.  How can I do this without some (most)
of my data being dropped?

	-----Original Message----- 
	From: Tesiny, Ed [mailto:EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us] 
	Sent: Wed 4/28/2004 3:27 PM 
	To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
	Cc: 
	Subject: RE: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97
	
	

	For memo fields the max. number of characters is 64,000.
	
	
	Ed Tesiny
	EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us
	
	-----Original Message-----
	From: Jeff Barrows [mailto:Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com]
	Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 4:23 PM
	To: AccessD
	Subject: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97
	
	It has been a while since I needed to add a memo field to a report
and I
	cannot seem to remember, is the memo field limited to 255 char. on
the
	report?  And if so, could it then limit my memo field to the same
255
	chars?
	
	
	
	TIA
	
	Jeff Barrows 
	
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From JHewson at karta.com  Wed Apr 28 17:19:27 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 17:19:27 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C138393@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

The memo fields do work in reports.
Two things to keep in mind.
1.  "Can Grow" is true.
2.  Remember each report section has a 22 inch Max length.

HTH
Jim



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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Barrows
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 3:23 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97


It has been a while since I needed to add a memo field to a report and I cannot seem to remember, is the memo field limited to 255 char. on the report?  And if so, could it then limit my memo field to the same 255 chars?

 

TIA

Jeff Barrows  

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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Apr 28 18:44:30 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:44:30 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Free Clock dB to good home
Message-ID: <008101c42d7a$c05c48f0$48619a89@DDICK>

Hello all
A long time a go I wrote a very buggy, cartoonish and very amateur 'clock' for entering in start and end times for timesheets.
It's from one of my very early dB's. But it looks kinda cool. 

I found it just the other day. So...anyone want a copy? It's 158 kb Zipped
If so, all me too's must be addressed to
d.dick at uws.edu.au

Keep the subject line  A2K: Free Clock dB to good home
Any me too's to the list will be ignored. Any offenders will be flagged for alien abduction.

See y'all

Darren





From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Wed Apr 28 19:18:28 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 20:18:28 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Free Clock dB to good home
In-Reply-To: <008101c42d7a$c05c48f0$48619a89@DDICK>
Message-ID: <40901194.18058.1064671@localhost>

On 29 Apr 2004 at 9:44, Darren DICK wrote:

> Keep the subject line  A2K: Free Clock dB to good home
> Any me too's to the list will be ignored. Any offenders will be
> flagged for alien abduction.

OH. Better yet, we can make them deal with the spam that hits the 
list srever :-)
 
And THEN be flagged for alien abduction :-)


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I am a nobody, and nobody is perfect; therefore, I am perfect.




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Apr 28 20:20:45 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 21:20:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Free Clock dB to good home
In-Reply-To: <40901194.18058.1064671@localhost>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPAECNHGAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

You are not THE nobody and only THE nobody is perfect, therefore you are NOT
perfect!

;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 8:18 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K:Free Clock dB to good home


On 29 Apr 2004 at 9:44, Darren DICK wrote:

> Keep the subject line  A2K: Free Clock dB to good home
> Any me too's to the list will be ignored. Any offenders will be
> flagged for alien abduction.

OH. Better yet, we can make them deal with the spam that hits the
list srever :-)

And THEN be flagged for alien abduction :-)


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Apr 28 20:20:45 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 21:20:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Digital Shakespeare
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPOECMHGAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>


2b + (NOT 2b)

John W. Colby 
www.ColbyConsulting.com



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Apr 28 20:23:35 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 21:23:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Digital Shakespeare
In-Reply-To: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPOECMHGAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <20040429012334.LRFN1702.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

But can you build a framework for it???????????

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA <sorry>

Susan H. 


2b + (NOT 2b)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Apr 28 20:36:29 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 21:36:29 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Digital Shakespeare
In-Reply-To: <20040429012334.LRFN1702.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <DCEFJAOENMNENLAAOFGPKECNHGAA.jwcolby@colbyconsulting.com>

ROTFL.  I'm starting to move pieces to VB.Net, starting with SysVars.  This
is going to be fun!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 9:24 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Digital Shakespeare


But can you build a framework for it???????????

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA <sorry>

Susan H.


2b + (NOT 2b)

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From bruce_bruen at mlc.com.au  Wed Apr 28 20:35:07 2004
From: bruce_bruen at mlc.com.au (bruce_bruen at mlc.com.au)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 11:35:07 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Digital Shakespeare
Message-ID: <OFFCD3F0E2.397C68B4-ONCA256E85.0008A14F-CA256E85.000887AA@mlc.com.au>





Surely

or(2B,!2B)




                                                                                                                                               
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                      29/04/2004 11:23                                                                                                         
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But can you build a framework for it???????????

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA <sorry>

Susan H.


2b + (NOT 2b)

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From bruce_bruen at mlc.com.au  Wed Apr 28 20:40:17 2004
From: bruce_bruen at mlc.com.au (bruce_bruen at mlc.com.au)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 11:40:17 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Digital Shakespeare
Message-ID: <OF41722D48.0E912777-ONCA256E85.0008F81F-CA256E85.000900DA@mlc.com.au>





Or if you want a clue as to where I've been:


private void Surely {
      theQuestion = or(2B,!2B);
}


B




                                                                                                                                               
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But can you build a framework for it???????????

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA <sorry>

Susan H.


2b + (NOT 2b)

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Apr 28 21:14:50 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 22:14:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Digital Shakespeare
In-Reply-To: <OFFCD3F0E2.397C68B4-ONCA256E85.0008A14F-CA256E85.000887AA@mlc.com.au>
Message-ID: <20040429021450.MRLT1702.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Shakespeare always gets a little lost in the translation. ;) 

Susan H. 

Surely

or(2B,!2B)




From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Wed Apr 28 22:56:52 2004
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:26:52 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97
References: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0106BE65@natexch.jenkens.com>
Message-ID: <007c01c42d9e$33a5c0c0$fc1865cb@winxp>

    On the subject of memo fields in reports, another interesting feature is pertinent - 

    If the field content is larger than one page, and 'Keep Together' property of Detail section is set as 'Yes', the Report Formatting process is prone to hang up Indefinitely.

    Conclusion - For large Memo Fields in a report, set the 'Keep Together' property of Detail section as 'No'
A.D.Tejpal
--------------
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Elam, Debbie 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 02:22
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97


  Set the field to be able to grow.  It will expand to fit everything.

  Debbie

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Jeff Barrows [mailto:Jeff at outbaktech.com] 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 3:43 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97

  OK, I stated my question wrong.  I have a report in access 97 that needs to display the contents of a memo field.  How can I do this without some (most) of my data being dropped?

  -----Original Message----- 
  From: Tesiny, Ed [mailto:EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us] 
  Sent: Wed 4/28/2004 3:27 PM 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Cc: 
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97

  For memo fields the max. number of characters is 64,000.

  Ed Tesiny
  EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Jeff Barrows [mailto:Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 4:23 PM
  To: AccessD
  Subject: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97

  It has been a while since I needed to add a memo field to a report
  and I
  cannot seem to remember, is the memo field limited to 255 char. on
  the
  report?  And if so, could it then limit my memo field to the same
  255
  chars?

  TIA

  Jeff Barrows 



From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr 29 02:51:55 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:51:55 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Memo Fields and Reports in Access 97
In-Reply-To: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE63050032673@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com>
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Message-ID: <945722037.20040429095155@cactus.dk>

Hi Jeff

> It has been a while since I needed to add a memo field to a report and I cannot seem to remember, is the memo field limited to 255 char. on the report?  And if so, could it then limit my memo field
> to the same 255 chars?

You may encounter an issue where the last line of the memo is chopped
when printed. That can be prevented by appending to the memo field two
or four line feeds: Chr(13) & Chr(10).

/gustav



From pedro at plex.nl  Thu Apr 29 12:15:08 2004
From: pedro at plex.nl (pedro at plex.nl)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 12:15:08 (MET DST)
Subject: [AccessD] replace in blank (is Null) Field
Message-ID: <200404291015.i3TAF8T0002593@mailhostC.plex.net>

Hello Group,

i want to use the replace in fields that contain no data (is Null). The help function gives as solution to use find and then replace manually. Is there another option?


Pedro Janssen


From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Thu Apr 29 05:43:20 2004
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 12:43:20 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] replace in blank (is Null) Field
Message-ID: <19427990.1083235400290.JavaMail.www@wwinf3004>

Pedro,
Can't you use Replace(YourField,"",WhatYouWantToReplaceItWith) in a loop
Paul





Message date : Apr 29 2004, 11:17 AM
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To : AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
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Subject : [AccessD] replace in blank (is Null) Field
Hello Group,

i want to use the replace in fields that contain no data (is Null). The help function gives as solution to use find and then replace manually. Is there another option?


Pedro Janssen
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From Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca  Thu Apr 29 06:56:20 2004
From: Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 07:56:20 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] replace in blank (is Null) Field
Message-ID: <s090b534.060@cbc.ca>

Pedro,

Use an Update Query

UPDATE YourTable SET YourTable.YourField = "The Updated Value"
WHERE (((YourTable.YourField) Is Null));

Bryan Carbonnell
bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca

>>> pedro at plex.nl 29-Apr-04 12:15:08 PM >>>
Hello Group,

i want to use the replace in fields that contain no data (is Null). The
help function gives as solution to use find and then replace manually.
Is there another option?


Pedro Janssen



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 29 07:03:56 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 22:03:56 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] replace in blank (is Null) Field
In-Reply-To: <19427990.1083235400290.JavaMail.www@wwinf3004>
Message-ID: <40917BCC.8273.339BDF4@localhost>

On 29 Apr 2004 at 12:43, paul.hartland at fsmail.net wrote:

> Pedro,
> Can't you use Replace(YourField,"",WhatYouWantToReplaceItWith) in a loop
> Paul
> 
Unfortunately, "" ( a zero length string) is not the same thing as a 
Null.

 
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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Thu Apr 29 07:13:47 2004
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:13:47 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] replace in blank (is Null) Field
Message-ID: <30224847.1083240827610.JavaMail.www@wwinf3004>

yeah, sorry about that....realised as soon as I pressed the Send





Message date : Apr 29 2004, 01:07 PM
>From : "Stuart McLachlan" 
To : "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
Copy to : 
Subject : Re: [AccessD] replace in blank (is Null) Field
On 29 Apr 2004 at 12:43, paul.hartland at fsmail.net wrote:

> Pedro,
> Can't you use Replace(YourField,"",WhatYouWantToReplaceItWith) in a loop
> Paul
> 
Unfortunately, "" ( a zero length string) is not the same thing as a 
Null.


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From michael.broesdorf at web.de  Thu Apr 29 07:38:29 2004
From: michael.broesdorf at web.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Michael_Br=F6sdorf?=)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:38:29 +0200
Subject: AW: [AccessD] Subform to Subform Updating
In-Reply-To: <NDBBJLJAILLNMMEMJPEEKEPAGLAA.doug@starntech.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBIILOPOPJBCLJIJHHEEOOFGAA.michael.broesdorf@web.de>

Hm, to make any statement I would need more information about your data
structure.
If you want you can send me a sample app and I will take a look at it.

Michael

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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. April 2004 20:16
An: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Betreff: RE: [AccessD] Subform to Subform Updating


I have the hidden control on the main form, sorry 'bout that. sub2 does
indeed return the correct data. Problem arises when i try to add another
record in sub2.

Douglas Barnes
Starn Technical Services
P. O. 1172
Meadville, PA 16335

814.724.1045

doug at starntech.com
www.starntech.com

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Br?sdorf
Sent: April 28, 2004 12:31 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: AW: [AccessD] Subform to Subform Updating


If sub2 is a subform of the main form (i.e. not a subform of sub1), sub2
does not 'see' anything
entered in sub1 since it is linked to the main form.

However, if you put an (invisible) textbox on the main form, that contains
the primary key of sub1, you can link sub2 to that textbox on the main form.

If you now select a record in sub1, it's primary key will show up in the
textbox. Sub2 will then in turn related data.

HTH,

Michael

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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. April 2004 18:04
An: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Betreff: [AccessD] Subform to Subform Updating


I have a main form with 2 subforms (sub1, sub2). I can add records to sub1
as it is related to the main form. I can't seem to add records to sub2,
which is related to sub1.

Any insight on this would be appreciated.


Douglas Barnes
Starn Technical Services
P. O. 1172
Meadville, PA 16335

814.724.1045

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From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Thu Apr 29 08:44:12 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Developer)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:44:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT Digital Shakespeare
In-Reply-To: <20040429021450.MRLT1702.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <000801c42df0$11a58e40$6401a8c0@COA3>

This is more like a Friday thread, but the 2b thing reminded me of this.
Theres a lot of t-shirts and other items with these types of sayings in
a catalog called "Computer Gear" (no affiliation).
My fave t-shirt is:

SELECT * FROM users WHERE clue=true
0 Rows Returned


There's also an "RTFM" shirt, and one that says "There are 10 kinds of
people in this world, those who understand binary, and those who don't".


Steve




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Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 10:15 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Digital Shakespeare


Shakespeare always gets a little lost in the translation. ;) 

Susan H. 

Surely

or(2B,!2B)


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From kaupca at chevrontexaco.com  Thu Apr 29 08:56:22 2004
From: kaupca at chevrontexaco.com (Kaup, Chester A)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 08:56:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query results display problem
Message-ID: <193572B4E0FC1744BEDFEE63F82CEC9E0F978B@bocnte2k4.boc.chevrontexaco.net>

I have a query that returns a 7 day average of some numbers and the 7
day average divided by 1000. The regular 7 day average display fine but
the 7 day average divided by 7 displays no decimal places. For example 7
day average is 1027.28571429 but the seven day average divided by seven
displays 1. I tried setting properties to fixed and 2 decimal places and
got 1.00. Why does it display this way? Thanks. SQL if someone wants to
look at it.

SELECT Avg([qry Sandhills Oil].SumOfTOTOILPROD) AS AvgOfSumOfTOTOILPROD,
Avg(([SumOfTOTOILPROD])/1000) AS OIL
FROM [qry Sandhills Gas] INNER JOIN [qry Sandhills Oil] ON [qry
Sandhills Gas].ACTVDATE = [qry Sandhills Oil].ACTVDATE
WHERE ((([qry Sandhills Gas].ACTVDATE) Between Date()-8 And Date()-2));

Chester Kaup
Technical Assistant
Texas Gas Team/MidContinent Business Unit
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr 29 09:15:29 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:15:29 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Query results display problem
In-Reply-To: <193572B4E0FC1744BEDFEE63F82CEC9E0F978B@bocnte2k4.boc.chevrontexaco.net>
References: <193572B4E0FC1744BEDFEE63F82CEC9E0F978B@bocnte2k4.boc.chevrontexaco.net>
Message-ID: <12828735359.20040429161529@cactus.dk>

Hi Chester

Have you tried:

  Avg(CDbl([SumOfTOTOILPROD])/1000) AS OIL

/gustav


> I have a query that returns a 7 day average of some numbers and the 7
> day average divided by 1000. The regular 7 day average display fine but
> the 7 day average divided by 7 displays no decimal places. For example 7
> day average is 1027.28571429 but the seven day average divided by seven
> displays 1. I tried setting properties to fixed and 2 decimal places and
> got 1.00. Why does it display this way? Thanks. SQL if someone wants to
> look at it.

> SELECT Avg([qry Sandhills Oil].SumOfTOTOILPROD) AS AvgOfSumOfTOTOILPROD,
> Avg(([SumOfTOTOILPROD])/1000) AS OIL
> FROM [qry Sandhills Gas] INNER JOIN [qry Sandhills Oil] ON [qry
> Sandhills Gas].ACTVDATE = [qry Sandhills Oil].ACTVDATE
> WHERE ((([qry Sandhills Gas].ACTVDATE) Between Date()-8 And Date()-2));



From john at winhaven.net  Thu Apr 29 09:20:33 2004
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:20:33 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] User Defined Properties A97
In-Reply-To: <B20C5B1CB8A30543BD7A9F173F29CCFDAABB31@abw2ex1.au.baesystems.com>
Message-ID: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKIAELFFGAA.john@winhaven.net>

Terry,
I haven't seen anyone answer this question yet so here goes...

First off, I wouldn't recommend using reserved words for a user defined
"anything".

Here is a cutdown, basic function to recall a property:
Public Function ReadMyProp() As Variant
   ' Comments  : Returns the database user defined property: UDPrp
   ' Returns   : Variant
   On Error GoTo Error_Proc
   Dim db As DAO.Database
   Dim prp As DAO.Property
   Set db = CurrentDb
   Set prp = db.Properties("UDPrp")
   ReadMyProp = prp
Exit_Proc:
   Set prp = Nothing
   Set db = Nothing
   Exit Function
Error_Proc:
   If Err = 3270 Then
      'Error 3270 means that the property was not found.
   Else
      'Add additional Error Handling here
   End If
   GoTo Exit_Proc
End Function

HTH
John R. Bartow
WinHaven LLC
PO Box 130
Winneconne, WI 54986
920-582-7574
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Subject: [AccessD] User Defined Properties A97


I'm trying to use a custom property to store some changing information,
which works fine, but when I try to read it, it only returns the value that
was present when the database was opened.

Is this the way it works or can I read the changed info. I'm using the
following code to read the property 'Reference':

DBEngine(0)(0).Containers("Databases").Documents("UserDefined").Properties("
reference")

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From kaupca at chevrontexaco.com  Thu Apr 29 09:33:49 2004
From: kaupca at chevrontexaco.com (Kaup, Chester A)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:33:49 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query results display problem
Message-ID: <193572B4E0FC1744BEDFEE63F82CEC9E0273946C@bocnte2k4.boc.chevrontexaco.net>

That got it. Thanks. 

Chester Kaup
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 9:15 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Query results display problem


Hi Chester

Have you tried:

  Avg(CDbl([SumOfTOTOILPROD])/1000) AS OIL

/gustav


> I have a query that returns a 7 day average of some numbers and the 7 
> day average divided by 1000. The regular 7 day average display fine 
> but the 7 day average divided by 7 displays no decimal places. For 
> example 7 day average is 1027.28571429 but the seven day average 
> divided by seven displays 1. I tried setting properties to fixed and 2

> decimal places and got 1.00. Why does it display this way? Thanks. SQL

> if someone wants to look at it.

> SELECT Avg([qry Sandhills Oil].SumOfTOTOILPROD) AS 
> AvgOfSumOfTOTOILPROD,
> Avg(([SumOfTOTOILPROD])/1000) AS OIL
> FROM [qry Sandhills Gas] INNER JOIN [qry Sandhills Oil] ON [qry
> Sandhills Gas].ACTVDATE = [qry Sandhills Oil].ACTVDATE
> WHERE ((([qry Sandhills Gas].ACTVDATE) Between Date()-8 And
Date()-2));

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From serbach at new.rr.com  Thu Apr 29 09:52:07 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:52:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Using the shell() function
Message-ID: <20040429095207.264583357.serbach@new.rr.com>

Dear Group,

I'm in the thick of writing a custom EDI purchase order processing application in Access 2000. The 850 purchase orders are downloaded from the VAN (Value Added Network) mailbox using Windows FTP commands in a DOS batch file, and the additional documents (855 PO Acknowledgment, 856 Advance Ship Notice, 810 Invoice, and 997 Functional Acknowledgment) are uploaded to the mailbox with another DOS batch file using Windows FTP commands.

The process works, but I've had to insert MsgBox statements in the Access code alerting the user that he should wait until the DOS batch file has completed processing the FTP commands and is closed before continuing with the Access stuff.

My question is this: do any of you lot have any techniques for 1) determining when a DOS batch file has finished (that is, the title bar of the DOS window says "Finished"); and 2) closing those windows without user intervention?

I'm just about ready to tell my client that he should buy WS_FTP Pro so that we can set up a macro or whatever you do in WS_FTP to automagically download and upload and close the WS_FTP program. I'm still not sure about what to do in Access so that it knows that an external application has completed its operations. Is this a DDE thing?

I've been experimenting with the FMS Total Visual Sourcebook that I bought some time ago. It has a class library and some sample code for logging into an FTP site and selecting and downloading files. I just know, however, that my client will balk at the additional delay while I figure out an Access-only method for getting and sending EDI documents.

The DOS batch thing works but there are the additional clicks involved with closing the DOS window and then clicking the MsgBox OK button to continue processing. Any ideas?

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
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From jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com  Thu Apr 29 10:00:27 2004
From: jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com (jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:00:27 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Using the shell() function
Message-ID: <OF084B5C86.2A9CD70B-ON86256E85.0052133F-86256E85.00526FEA@us.bank-dns.com>


Here is code that I use:

Sub runftp()
Dim db As Database
Dim Mytitle
Dim ReturnValue
Dim myFTPDir As String
Dim strSQL As String
Dim qdf As QueryDef
Dim myfilenumber As String
Dim myfiledate As String
Dim myexportfile As String
Dim saveasname As String
Dim rst_Databases As Recordset
Dim rst_reports As Recordset
Dim myReportName As String
Dim mySaveName As String
Dim myftpfilename As String
Dim mylocation As String
Dim myfile As String
Dim mysection As String
Dim mykey As String
Dim myname As String
Dim sSetting
Dim mydatafile As String
Dim mymessage As String
Dim SearchPath As String
Dim FindStr  As String
Dim NumFiles As Integer
Dim NumDirs As Integer
Dim FileSize As Long
Dim FileNum As Integer
Dim mytext As String

'Create the Batch File for FTPing
SearchPath = CurrentDBDir
FindStr = "ftpbm.bat"
FileSize = FindFilesAPI(SearchPath, FindStr, NumFiles, NumDirs)
If NumFiles <> 0 Then
    Kill SearchPath & FindStr
End If

FileNum = FreeFile

Open SearchPath & "ftpbm.bat" For Output As #FileNum  'SearchPath & FindStr
For Input As #1
    mytext = "@Echo Off"
    Print #FileNum, mytext
    mytext = "TITLE FTP BONDMASTER FILES"
    Print #FileNum, mytext
    mytext = "Echo OFF"
    Print #FileNum, mytext
    mytext = "CLS"
    Print #FileNum, mytext
    mytext = "@ECHO FTPing BondMaster Data..."
    Print #FileNum, mytext
    mytext = "ftp -s:" & SearchPath & "bmftp.txt"
    Print #FileNum, mytext
' Close before reopening in another mode.
Close #FileNum

'Create FTP Script File
SearchPath = CurrentDBDir
FindStr = "bmftp.txt"
FileSize = FindFilesAPI(SearchPath, FindStr, NumFiles, NumDirs)
If NumFiles <> 0 Then
    Kill SearchPath & FindStr
End If

FileNum = FreeFile

Open SearchPath & "bmftp.txt" For Output As #FileNum  'SearchPath & FindStr
For Input As #1
    mytext = "open bmprod1.int.usbc.com"
    Print #FileNum, mytext
    mytext = "ftc_ftp"
    Print #FileNum, mytext
    mytext = "transfer"
    Print #FileNum, mytext

    Set db = DBEngine(0)(0)

    'If there is a record for the Operators Report create strings for FTP
here
    Set rst_reports = db.OpenRecordset("tblErrors")
    Set rst_Databases = db.OpenRecordset("tblDataBaseNames")
    If rst_reports.recordcount <> 0 Then
        rst_reports.MoveFirst
        Do Until rst_reports.EOF
            If InStr(1, rst_reports.Fields("Error"), "TAPEPBPASSWD") <> 0
Then
                rst_Databases.MoveFirst
                Do Until rst_Databases.EOF
                    If rst_reports.Fields("DataBase") =
rst_Databases.Fields("DataBaseLongName") Then
                        myFTPDir = rst_Databases.Fields
("DataBaseFTPAddressTapeFiles")
                        myReportName = right(rst_reports.Fields("Error"),
30)
                        mySaveName = "BMOperators.txt"

                        mytext = "cd " & myFTPDir
                        Print #FileNum, mytext

                        mytext = "get " & myReportName & " " &
Me.txtSavedDataLocation & mySaveName
                        Print #FileNum, mytext

                    End If
                    rst_Databases.MoveNext
                Loop
            End If
            rst_reports.MoveNext
        Loop
    End If

    'If there is a record for the Loan Bal Info Reports create strings for
FTP here
    Set rst_reports = db.OpenRecordset("tempreport")
    Set rst_Databases = db.OpenRecordset("tblDataBaseNames")
    If rst_reports.recordcount <> 0 Then
        rst_reports.MoveFirst
        Do Until rst_reports.EOF
            rst_Databases.MoveFirst
            Do Until rst_Databases.EOF
                If rst_reports.Fields("dbName") = rst_Databases.Fields
("DataBaseLongName") Then
                    myFTPDir = rst_Databases.Fields
("DataBaseFTPAddressTapeFiles")
                    myReportName = rst_reports.Fields("txtReport")
                    mySaveName = "LoanBalInfo-" & rst_Databases.Fields
("DataBaseLongName") & ".txt"

                    mytext = "cd " & myFTPDir
                    Print #FileNum, mytext
                    mytext = "get " & myReportName & " " &
Me.txtSavedDataLocation & mySaveName
                    Print #FileNum, mytext

                End If
                rst_Databases.MoveNext
            Loop
            rst_reports.MoveNext
        Loop
    End If

    mytext = "disconnect"
    Print #FileNum, mytext
    mytext = "close"
    Print #FileNum, mytext

' Close before reopening in another mode.
Close #FileNum

'***** This is the command to use when ftping so do not need message box
myftpfilename = CurrentDBDir & "ftpbm.bat"
Call ShellWait(myftpfilename, 1)

Set rst_Databases = Nothing
Set rst_reports = Nothing
Set db = Nothing
End Sub

THIS CODE IS IN ITS OWN MODULE

Option Compare Database
Option Explicit
'***************** Code Start ******************
'This code was originally written by Terry Kreft.
'It is not to be altered or distributed,
'except as part of an application.
'You are free to use it in any application,
'provided the copyright notice is left unchanged.
'
'Code Courtesy of
'Terry Kreft
Private Const STARTF_USESHOWWINDOW& = &H1
Private Const NORMAL_PRIORITY_CLASS = &H20&
Private Const INFINITE = -1&

Private Type STARTUPINFO
    cb As Long
    lpReserved As String
    lpDesktop As String
    lpTitle As String
    dwX As Long
    dwY As Long
    dwXSize As Long
    dwYSize As Long
    dwXCountChars As Long
    dwYCountChars As Long
    dwFillAttribute As Long
    dwFlags As Long
    wShowWindow As Integer
    cbReserved2 As Integer
    lpReserved2 As Long
    hStdInput As Long
    hStdOutput As Long
    hStdError As Long
End Type
Private Type PROCESS_INFORMATION
    hProcess As Long
    hThread As Long
    dwProcessID As Long
    dwThreadID As Long
End Type
Private Declare Function WaitForSingleObject Lib "kernel32" (ByVal _
    hHandle As Long, ByVal dwMilliseconds As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function CreateProcessA Lib "kernel32" (ByVal _
    lpApplicationName As Long, ByVal lpCommandLine As String, ByVal _
    lpProcessAttributes As Long, ByVal lpThreadAttributes As Long, _
    ByVal bInheritHandles As Long, ByVal dwCreationFlags As Long, _
    ByVal lpEnvironment As Long, ByVal lpCurrentDirectory As Long, _
    lpStartupInfo As STARTUPINFO, lpProcessInformation As _
    PROCESS_INFORMATION) As Long
Private Declare Function CloseHandle Lib "kernel32" (ByVal _
    hObject As Long) As Long
Public Sub ShellWait(Pathname As String, Optional WindowStyle As Long)
    Dim proc As PROCESS_INFORMATION
    Dim start As STARTUPINFO
    Dim ret As Long
    ' Initialize the STARTUPINFO structure:
    With start
        .cb = Len(start)
        If Not IsMissing(WindowStyle) Then
            .dwFlags = STARTF_USESHOWWINDOW
            .wShowWindow = WindowStyle
        End If
    End With
    ' Start the shelled application:
    ret& = CreateProcessA(0&, Pathname, 0&, 0&, 1&, _
            NORMAL_PRIORITY_CLASS, 0&, 0&, start, proc)
    ' Wait for the shelled application to finish:
    ret& = WaitForSingleObject(proc.hProcess, INFINITE)
    ret& = CloseHandle(proc.hProcess)
End Sub

'***************** Code End ****************


                                                                                                                                               
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Dear Group,

I'm in the thick of writing a custom EDI purchase order processing
application in Access 2000. The 850 purchase orders are downloaded from the
VAN (Value Added Network) mailbox using Windows FTP commands in a DOS batch
file, and the additional documents (855 PO Acknowledgment, 856 Advance Ship
Notice, 810 Invoice, and 997 Functional Acknowledgment) are uploaded to the
mailbox with another DOS batch file using Windows FTP commands.

The process works, but I've had to insert MsgBox statements in the Access
code alerting the user that he should wait until the DOS batch file has
completed processing the FTP commands and is closed before continuing with
the Access stuff.

My question is this: do any of you lot have any techniques for 1)
determining when a DOS batch file has finished (that is, the title bar of
the DOS window says "Finished"); and 2) closing those windows without user
intervention?

I'm just about ready to tell my client that he should buy WS_FTP Pro so
that we can set up a macro or whatever you do in WS_FTP to automagically
download and upload and close the WS_FTP program. I'm still not sure about
what to do in Access so that it knows that an external application has
completed its operations. Is this a DDE thing?

I've been experimenting with the FMS Total Visual Sourcebook that I bought
some time ago. It has a class library and some sample code for logging into
an FTP site and selecting and downloading files. I just know, however, that
my client will balk at the additional delay while I figure out an
Access-only method for getting and sending EDI documents.

The DOS batch thing works but there are the additional clicks involved with
closing the DOS window and then clicking the MsgBox OK button to continue
processing. Any ideas?

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504

"One of the differences in the two parties is that the Republicans always
have problems filling many of the offices that are political, because most
competent people would rather do something other than work for the
government..." - Jerry Pournelle

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From greggs at msn.com  Thu Apr 29 10:20:15 2004
From: greggs at msn.com (Gregg)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:20:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K Repair
In-Reply-To: <12828735359.20040429161529@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <MOELIKDOANGCHBBIGOLICECDEDAA.greggs@msn.com>

I have a database that won't repair.  It is password protected and the first
time I tried it, it would ask for the password, say it needs to be repaired,
then say the password was invalid.  Loading SP3 got me past the invalid
password issue. Then the repair would go half way and stop.  When I used
jetcomp on it, it went half way and closed creating the new database.  When
I try to open the new database I get the message "Could not create... no
modify design permission for table or query msysaccessobjects."  I also
tried to upgrade it to 2003, got the repair message , then said it couldn't.

Everything I have read says it's toast.  Is that True?  There are no backups
for at least a month. Any way to get the data back?

Thanks!

Gregg Steinbrenner




From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr 29 10:24:18 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:24:18 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Using the shell() function
In-Reply-To: <20040429095207.264583357.serbach@new.rr.com>
References: <20040429095207.264583357.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <1132863725.20040429172418@cactus.dk>

Hi Steven

I hate to repeat myself, but having had a similar experience, I would
recommend to use the 3D-FTP engine which works extremely reliable:

  http://www.3dftp.com

and the API guide:

  http://www.3dftp.com/api.htm

As it runs multi-threaded uploads are very fast.
However, if USD 40 is too much, go and get the free wcl_ftp14 at:

  http://www.pacific.net/~ken/software/

Note the link to a ready-to-use Access 2000 module some nice guy has
contributed.

It is not as versatile as 3D-FTP (which I can offer you a code snippet
for) but it does feature a visual indication which is what the users
request for large batch uploads.

/gustav


> I'm in the thick of writing a custom EDI purchase order processing application in Access 2000. The 850 purchase orders are downloaded from the VAN (Value Added Network) mailbox using Windows FTP
> commands in a DOS batch file, and the additional documents (855 PO Acknowledgment, 856 Advance Ship Notice, 810 Invoice, and 997 Functional Acknowledgment) are uploaded to the mailbox with another
> DOS batch file using Windows FTP commands.

> The process works, but I've had to insert MsgBox statements in the Access code alerting the user that he should wait until the DOS batch file has completed processing the FTP commands and is closed
> before continuing with the Access stuff.

> My question is this: do any of you lot have any techniques for 1) determining when a DOS batch file has finished (that is, the title bar of the DOS window says "Finished"); and 2) closing those
> windows without user intervention?

> I'm just about ready to tell my client that he should buy WS_FTP Pro so that we can set up a macro or whatever you do in WS_FTP to automagically download and upload and close the WS_FTP program.
> I'm still not sure about what to do in Access so that it knows that an external application has completed its operations. Is this a DDE thing?

> I've been experimenting with the FMS Total Visual Sourcebook that I bought some time ago. It has a class library and some sample code for logging into an FTP site and selecting and downloading
> files. I just know, however, that my client will balk at the additional delay while I figure out an Access-only method for getting and sending EDI documents.

> The DOS batch thing works but there are the additional clicks involved with closing the DOS window and then clicking the MsgBox OK button to continue processing. Any ideas?



From serbach at new.rr.com  Thu Apr 29 11:00:01 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 11:00:01 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Using the shell() function
Message-ID: <20040429110001.206625495.serbach@new.rr.com>

Gustav,

>> I hate to repeat myself <<

I hope that you're referring to the world at large and not to me specifically, as I don't remember reading any reference to another FTP program. But then again I don't read every AccessD message.

I'm not opposed to spending money for a decent program. I purchased WS_FTP Pro. What's different about 3D-FTP?

Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504
 
Security and Virus information:
http://www.swerbach.com/security



From michael.broesdorf at web.de  Thu Apr 29 11:37:15 2004
From: michael.broesdorf at web.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Michael_Br=F6sdorf?=)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 18:37:15 +0200
Subject: Solved: [AccessD] Strange problem with reports
In-Reply-To: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF407AD8231@xlivmbx12.aig.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBIILOPOPJBCLJIJHHOEPBFGAA.michael.broesdorf@web.de>

The database was in Access 2000 format and the problem occured if it was run
under Access 2003 only.
Converting the file to the Access 2002/2003 format solved the problem.

Thanks for your suggestions!

Michael

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Heenan,
Lambert
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. April 2004 15:58
An: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Betreff: RE: [AccessD] Strange problem with reports


When weird stuff like that starts happening I say, back up the database and
then decompile it. If that does not solve the problem then it's probably
time to start a new database and import all the objects in you problem
database. The report in question may be corrupt and so may not import. It
will have to be rebuilt from scratch.

FWIW

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Michael Br?sdorf [SMTP:michael.broesdorf at web.de]
> Sent:	Tuesday, April 27, 2004 8:33 AM
> To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject:	[AccessD] Strange problem with reports
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am having a strange problem with reports in an Access 2003 application:
>
> The app is running on a Citrix Metaframe XP server. The report is opened
> in
> print preview. If I change something in the page setup (e.g. paper size or
> margins), an error message shows up when the report is closed or saves
> (CTRL-S):
>
> 'You can't set the Event Proc Prefix property in print preview or after
> printing has started.
> Try setting this property in the OnOpen event.'
>
> None of my code tries to change that property.
>
> What could that be?
>
> Michael
>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr 29 11:39:08 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 18:39:08 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Using the shell() function
In-Reply-To: <20040429110001.206625495.serbach@new.rr.com>
References: <20040429110001.206625495.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <10037353811.20040429183908@cactus.dk>

Hi Steven

>>> I hate to repeat myself <<

> I hope that you're referring to the world at large and not to me
> specifically, as I don't remember reading any reference to another
> FTP program. But then again I don't read every AccessD message.  

Well, that explains - I did mail a message 2004-04-22 on this when you
complained the first time. Anyway ...

> I'm not opposed to spending money for a decent program. I purchased
> WS_FTP Pro. What's different about 3D-FTP? 

It features an API which allow you to automate it. There is a very
simple example on their site but in practice you have to do a lot of
checking (paths, files, etc.) before you have a robust routine.

You can download everything for free for evaluation, so you can easily
check it out.

It has run in version 4 at one of our clients for several years
without a single problem where they upload over thousand picture files
per run for a web site. As hosting companies' ftp servers are quite
capable, 3D-FTP can stress these to their limits which results in very
fast upload sessions.

If you like, you can get my module which, of course, is heavily
customized but I'm convinced you can easily extract what you need and
modify it.

A note: wcl_ftp is mainly for transfer of one file per session, thus I
use it for situations where only, say, a backup cab-file is to be
uploaded.

/gustav



From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Thu Apr 29 12:00:16 2004
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:00:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT Digital Shakespeare
Message-ID: <s090fc7c.012@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

Yeah, I got both these sayings from another site called "ThinkGeek.com",
and they have been hanging in my office for the past couple of years.
Actually, they had been written on my whiteboard--for so long that the
shadow will remain forever--but I've been thinking of making a nice sign
with these sayings. The SQL statement is actually my favorite, and it
has become sort of a theme. I can have it hanging in plain sight, and my
users don't get it...sort of like when I tell them they are experiencing
an "i-D-10-t" problem, which is more effective verbally.

>>> Developer at ultradnt.com 4/29/2004 9:44:12 AM >>>
This is more like a Friday thread, but the 2b thing reminded me of
this.
Theres a lot of t-shirts and other items with these types of sayings
in
a catalog called "Computer Gear" (no affiliation).
My fave t-shirt is:

SELECT * FROM users WHERE clue=true
0 Rows Returned


There's also an "RTFM" shirt, and one that says "There are 10 kinds of
people in this world, those who understand binary, and those who
don't".


Steve




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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan
Harkins
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 10:15 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Digital Shakespeare


Shakespeare always gets a little lost in the translation. ;) 

Susan H. 

Surely

or(2B,!2B)


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From donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com  Thu Apr 29 12:14:21 2004
From: donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com (Mcgillivray, Donald [ITS])
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 12:14:21 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Using the shell() function
Message-ID: <6FC1C7A6E7BD5540AB0A8436713C43BF084AD6CF@PKDWB01C.ad.sprint.com>

Steve,

I don't know if what I'm doing is similar to what you need to
accomplish, but I've been working on a project that requires data
capture via FTP.  I found a nifty program called WebDrive
(http://www.webdrive.com) that allows you to map FTP sites as drives.
In my db, I'm using a combination of VBA file manipulation functions
(Dir, FileCopy, etc.) and Scripting FSO functionality to get and read
text files via FTP.  You can refer to WebDrives using UNC or specific
drive letters, and user names and passwords can be saved with the
mappings so that they reconnect automatically upon system startup.  Best
$40 I've spent in the last month or so . . .

Hope this helps.

Don McGillivray

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steven W.
Erbach
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 7:52 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Using the shell() function


Dear Group,

I'm in the thick of writing a custom EDI purchase order processing
application in Access 2000. The 850 purchase orders are downloaded from
the VAN (Value Added Network) mailbox using Windows FTP commands in a
DOS batch file, and the additional documents (855 PO Acknowledgment, 856
Advance Ship Notice, 810 Invoice, and 997 Functional Acknowledgment) are
uploaded to the mailbox with another DOS batch file using Windows FTP
commands.

The process works, but I've had to insert MsgBox statements in the
Access code alerting the user that he should wait until the DOS batch
file has completed processing the FTP commands and is closed before
continuing with the Access stuff.

My question is this: do any of you lot have any techniques for 1)
determining when a DOS batch file has finished (that is, the title bar
of the DOS window says "Finished"); and 2) closing those windows without
user intervention?

I'm just about ready to tell my client that he should buy WS_FTP Pro so
that we can set up a macro or whatever you do in WS_FTP to automagically
download and upload and close the WS_FTP program. I'm still not sure
about what to do in Access so that it knows that an external application
has completed its operations. Is this a DDE thing?

I've been experimenting with the FMS Total Visual Sourcebook that I
bought some time ago. It has a class library and some sample code for
logging into an FTP site and selecting and downloading files. I just
know, however, that my client will balk at the additional delay while I
figure out an Access-only method for getting and sending EDI documents.

The DOS batch thing works but there are the additional clicks involved
with closing the DOS window and then clicking the MsgBox OK button to
continue processing. Any ideas?

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504

"One of the differences in the two parties is that the Republicans
always have problems filling many of the offices that are political,
because most competent people would rather do something other than work
for the government..." - Jerry Pournelle

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From serbach at new.rr.com  Thu Apr 29 12:16:42 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 12:16:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Shell 'discoveries'
Message-ID: <20040429121642.1497583085.serbach@new.rr.com>

Jim, Marty, William, Jim D., Gustav, Andy, and Jeffrey,

I'm embarrassed to say that I didn't check back with this thread until today. When I wrote my message I didn't expect any responses since it was pretty much a report, not a question.

Thank you for your input on this. Since the application currently requires multiple clicks of the mouse to download EDI documents and upload 997 acknowledgments, I think my customer will appreciate anything that can reduce the chance for "mousal tunnel".

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504

"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty." - John F. Kennedy, 1961



From serbach at new.rr.com  Thu Apr 29 12:17:07 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 12:17:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Using the shell() function
Message-ID: <20040429121707.1417978362.serbach@new.rr.com>

Gustav,

>> Well, that explains - I did mail a message 2004-04-22 on this when you
complained the first time. <<

You know, when I wrote that I didn't really think that anyone would comment since I was just "complaining", as you said. I just went back to look and voila! All sorts of responses. I'm sorry. I wasn't paying attention. Good grief! There was all kinds of good stuff in those replies.

>> If you like, you can get my module which, of course, is heavily
customized but I'm convinced you can easily extract what you need and
modify it. <<

Of course I would like that. What do I need to do?

Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504
 
"If you can't say anything nice, run for President." - Argus Hamilton



From slee at asu.edu  Thu Apr 29 12:20:59 2004
From: slee at asu.edu (S Lee)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:20:59 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Using the shell() function
Message-ID: <A7AF1AE70A8C124593A1AC831EFE46FE037ADFE5@ex3.asurite.ad.asu.edu>

I would like the module also, please.  Thanks

slee at asu.edu



>> If you like, you can get my module which, of course, is heavily
customized but I'm convinced you can easily extract what you need and
modify it. <<

Of course I would like that. What do I need to do?

Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504
 
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From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 29 12:23:59 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:23:59 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Using the shell() function
References: <20040429110001.206625495.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <003b01c42e0e$c21125a0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...you need to go back and read the archives Steve :(

William Hindman
"The world's becoming a museum of socialist failures." John Dos Passos


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From: "Steven W. Erbach" <serbach at new.rr.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Using the shell() function


> Gustav,
>
> >> I hate to repeat myself <<
>
> I hope that you're referring to the world at large and not to me
specifically, as I don't remember reading any reference to another FTP
program. But then again I don't read every AccessD message.
>
> I'm not opposed to spending money for a decent program. I purchased WS_FTP
Pro. What's different about 3D-FTP?
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve Erbach
> Scientific Marketing
> Neenah, WI
> 920-969-0504
>
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> http://www.swerbach.com/security
>
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From serbach at new.rr.com  Thu Apr 29 12:37:44 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 12:37:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Using the shell() function
Message-ID: <20040429123744.107487292.serbach@new.rr.com>

William,

>> ...you need to go back and read the archives Steve :( <<

You're right, of course. I've been working on this thing for a while and posting that message last Thursday was more a "here's what I found/did, for what it's worth" kind of message. I didn't come back to AccessD until today when I was looking for additional information.

Last week you wrote that you had a sample mdb "that's worked round the clock for years now." Any chance I might download it or get you to e-mail it to me?

Sincerely,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504

http://www.swerbach.com/security



From serbach at new.rr.com  Thu Apr 29 12:40:33 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 12:40:33 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Using the shell() function
Message-ID: <20040429124033.736785068.serbach@new.rr.com>

Don,

>> You can refer to WebDrives using UNC or specific
drive letters, and user names and passwords can be saved with the
mappings so that they reconnect automatically upon system startup. <<

That made me think of another long-standing problem I've been wrestling with: Access replication. Internet/Indirect replication requires drive letters...maybe this product can help me kill that second bird, too!

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504

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From lists at theopg.com  Thu Apr 29 12:54:20 2004
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 18:54:20 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] AXP and copying records in table view shuts Access
In-Reply-To: <945722037.20040429095155@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <000201c42e12$ffed5750$8f0d6bd5@netboxxp>

Hello All

I am using Access XP on Windows XP on several different machines.

Every now and then, when in a table and copying records (either from the
menu or by using CTRL+C) Access just shuts down, sometimes with an
unhandled error, sometimes it just vanishes. The problem is not limited
to a particular mdb or computer. I'm not sure yet (this may be a
coincidence) but it seems to happen on tables with a few yes/no
columns... Also, maybe another coincidence) it doesn't seem to happen
when I view the records through a query.

Anyone come across this or have any idea what the solution is?

Cheers

Mark



From michael.broesdorf at web.de  Thu Apr 29 12:51:35 2004
From: michael.broesdorf at web.de (=?us-ascii?Q?Michael_Brosdorf?=)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:51:35 +0200
Subject: AW: [AccessD] OT Digital Shakespeare
In-Reply-To: <s090fc7c.012@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBIILOPOPJBCLJIJHHOEPDFGAA.michael.broesdorf@web.de>

I don't get it: what is an 'i-D-10-t' problem??

Michael

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Von: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von John Clark
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. April 2004 19:00
An: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Betreff: RE: [AccessD] OT Digital Shakespeare


Yeah, I got both these sayings from another site called "ThinkGeek.com",
and they have been hanging in my office for the past couple of years.
Actually, they had been written on my whiteboard--for so long that the
shadow will remain forever--but I've been thinking of making a nice sign
with these sayings. The SQL statement is actually my favorite, and it
has become sort of a theme. I can have it hanging in plain sight, and my
users don't get it...sort of like when I tell them they are experiencing
an "i-D-10-t" problem, which is more effective verbally.

>>> Developer at ultradnt.com 4/29/2004 9:44:12 AM >>>
This is more like a Friday thread, but the 2b thing reminded me of
this.
Theres a lot of t-shirts and other items with these types of sayings
in
a catalog called "Computer Gear" (no affiliation).
My fave t-shirt is:

SELECT * FROM users WHERE clue=true
0 Rows Returned


There's also an "RTFM" shirt, and one that says "There are 10 kinds of
people in this world, those who understand binary, and those who
don't".


Steve




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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan
Harkins
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 10:15 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Digital Shakespeare


Shakespeare always gets a little lost in the translation. ;) 

Susan H. 

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Thu Apr 29 12:59:48 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 12:59:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] TransferText working sporadically.
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227B38@main2.marlow.com>

Our Payroll guy has an Access .mdb which imports data from our Hours program
(written in DataPoint), into Abra, our Payroll/HR package.  A few weeks ago,
that database stopped working, and it is failing on a line of code that is
DoCmd.TransferText.  It says it is unable to write to the database.

It works from my machine (Windows 2000, running Access 97), but not the
payroll guy's machine, (NT 4.0 workstation, access 97).

Both have the same service packs, etc.  

Any thoughts?

Drew


From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 29 13:05:32 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:05:32 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT Digital Shakespeare
References: <NEBBIILOPOPJBCLJIJHHOEPDFGAA.michael.broesdorf@web.de>
Message-ID: <004201c42e14$909194a0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...whooossssssshhhhhhhhh!!!!

William Hindman
"The world's becoming a museum of socialist failures." John Dos Passos


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Brosdorf" <michael.broesdorf at web.de>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 1:51 PM
Subject: AW: [AccessD] OT Digital Shakespeare


> I don't get it: what is an 'i-D-10-t' problem??
>
> Michael
>
> -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> Von: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von John Clark
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. April 2004 19:00
> An: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Betreff: RE: [AccessD] OT Digital Shakespeare
>
>
> Yeah, I got both these sayings from another site called "ThinkGeek.com",
> and they have been hanging in my office for the past couple of years.
> Actually, they had been written on my whiteboard--for so long that the
> shadow will remain forever--but I've been thinking of making a nice sign
> with these sayings. The SQL statement is actually my favorite, and it
> has become sort of a theme. I can have it hanging in plain sight, and my
> users don't get it...sort of like when I tell them they are experiencing
> an "i-D-10-t" problem, which is more effective verbally.
>
> >>> Developer at ultradnt.com 4/29/2004 9:44:12 AM >>>
> This is more like a Friday thread, but the 2b thing reminded me of
> this.
> Theres a lot of t-shirts and other items with these types of sayings
> in
> a catalog called "Computer Gear" (no affiliation).
> My fave t-shirt is:
>
> SELECT * FROM users WHERE clue=true
> 0 Rows Returned
>
>
> There's also an "RTFM" shirt, and one that says "There are 10 kinds of
> people in this world, those who understand binary, and those who
> don't".
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan
> Harkins
> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 10:15 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Digital Shakespeare
>
>
> Shakespeare always gets a little lost in the translation. ;)
>
> Susan H.
>
> Surely
>
> or(2B,!2B)
>
>
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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Thu Apr 29 13:06:48 2004
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:06:48 -0400
Subject: AW: [AccessD] OT Digital Shakespeare
Message-ID: <s0910c63.093@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

I wrote it the way that you say it, but if you put it
together...iD10t...or...idiot
 
John W Clark


>>> michael.broesdorf at web.de 4/29/2004 1:51:35 PM >>>

I don't get it: what is an 'i-D-10-t' problem??

Michael

-----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
Von: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von John Clark
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. April 2004 19:00
An: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Betreff: RE: [AccessD] OT Digital Shakespeare


Yeah, I got both these sayings from another site called
"ThinkGeek.com",
and they have been hanging in my office for the past couple of years.
Actually, they had been written on my whiteboard--for so long that the
shadow will remain forever--but I've been thinking of making a nice
sign
with these sayings. The SQL statement is actually my favorite, and it
has become sort of a theme. I can have it hanging in plain sight, and
my
users don't get it...sort of like when I tell them they are
experiencing
an "i-D-10-t" problem, which is more effective verbally.

>>> Developer at ultradnt.com 4/29/2004 9:44:12 AM >>>
This is more like a Friday thread, but the 2b thing reminded me of
this.
Theres a lot of t-shirts and other items with these types of sayings
in
a catalog called "Computer Gear" (no affiliation).
My fave t-shirt is:

SELECT * FROM users WHERE clue=true
0 Rows Returned


There's also an "RTFM" shirt, and one that says "There are 10 kinds of
people in this world, those who understand binary, and those who
don't".


Steve




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Harkins
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 10:15 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Digital Shakespeare


Shakespeare always gets a little lost in the translation. ;) 

Susan H. 

Surely

or(2B,!2B)


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From jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com  Thu Apr 29 13:12:22 2004
From: jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com (jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:12:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] TransferText working sporadically.
Message-ID: <OF52E0EAC9.2F63E40E-ON86256E85.0063F9D2-86256E85.00640219@us.bank-dns.com>


Do you both have the same rights to the target directory?


                                                                                                                                               
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Our Payroll guy has an Access .mdb which imports data from our Hours
program
(written in DataPoint), into Abra, our Payroll/HR package.  A few weeks
ago,
that database stopped working, and it is failing on a line of code that is
DoCmd.TransferText.  It says it is unable to write to the database.

It works from my machine (Windows 2000, running Access 97), but not the
payroll guy's machine, (NT 4.0 workstation, access 97).

Both have the same service packs, etc.

Any thoughts?

Drew
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Thu Apr 29 14:36:55 2004
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:36:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Using the shell() function
Message-ID: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF407AD8255@xlivmbx12.aig.com>

I deal with this probelm simply by having the batch file create an emptry
folder. Then it goes on and does whatever else it need to do. Meanwhile the
VBA code looks for the folder and keeps looping while it sees the folder.

At the end of the batch file I delete the sentinel folder and that then
allows the VBA code to proceed. The DOS Box closes automatically at the
termination of the batch file. Here's the code I use as an example...


Sub CreateFileInventory(ByVal sRootFolder As String)
' This sub creates and runs a batch file which builds a list of all the
files in all the subfolders
' of the root folder defined in sRootFolder. This is stored in a text file
for further processing

Const BATCHFILE = "C:\LSFINV.BAT"
Dim strComLine As String
Dim strCommand As String
Dim fHandle As Long
    DoCmd.Hourglass True
    fHandle = FreeFile
    Open BATCHFILE For Output As #fHandle
    strComLine = "DIR " & quote(sRootFolder & "*.*") & " /s /b >
C:\LSDOC.LST"
    Print #fHandle, "c:"
    Print #fHandle, "CD \"
    Print #fHandle, "MD LSFinv"
    Print #fHandle, strComLine
    Print #fHandle, "rd LSFinv"
    Close #fHandle
    strCommand = Environ("COMSPEC") & " /c " & BATCHFILE
    Shell strCommand, vbMinimizedNoFocus
    sSleep 1000 ' pause long enough to have the flag folder created
    While FileExists("C:\LSFinv")
        DoEvents
    Wend
    DoCmd.Hourglass False
    Kill BATCHFILE
End Sub

... and here are the three small helper routines that it uses...
'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

Function Quote(aString) As String
    Quote = """" & aString & """"
End Function

'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
Private Declare Sub sapiSleep Lib "Kernel32" _
        Alias "Sleep" _
        (ByVal dwMilliseconds As Long)

Sub sSleep(lngMilliSec As Long)
    If lngMilliSec > 0 Then
        Call sapiSleep(lngMilliSec)
    End If
End Sub

'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
Function FileExists(strFile As String) As Boolean
  ' Comments  : Determines if the file exists
  '             Works for hidden files and folders
  ' Parameters: strFile - file to check
  ' Returns   : True if the file exists, otherwise false
  Dim intAttr As Integer
  On Error Resume Next
  intAttr = GetAttr(strFile)
  FileExists = (Err.Number = 0)
End Function


HTH

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Steven W. Erbach [SMTP:serbach at new.rr.com ]
> Sent:	Thursday, April 29, 2004 10:52 AM
> To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject:	[AccessD] A2K: Using the shell() function
> 
> Dear Group,
> 
> I'm in the thick of writing a custom EDI purchase order processing
> application in Access 2000. The 850 purchase orders are downloaded from
> the VAN (Value Added Network) mailbox using Windows FTP commands in a DOS
> batch file, and the additional documents (855 PO Acknowledgment, 856
> Advance Ship Notice, 810 Invoice, and 997 Functional Acknowledgment) are
> uploaded to the mailbox with another DOS batch file using Windows FTP
> commands.
> 
> The process works, but I've had to insert MsgBox statements in the Access
> code alerting the user that he should wait until the DOS batch file has
> completed processing the FTP commands and is closed before continuing with
> the Access stuff.
> 
> My question is this: do any of you lot have any techniques for 1)
> determining when a DOS batch file has finished (that is, the title bar of
> the DOS window says "Finished"); and 2) closing those windows without user
> intervention?
> 
> I'm just about ready to tell my client that he should buy WS_FTP Pro so
> that we can set up a macro or whatever you do in WS_FTP to automagically
> download and upload and close the WS_FTP program. I'm still not sure about
> what to do in Access so that it knows that an external application has
> completed its operations. Is this a DDE thing?
> 
> I've been experimenting with the FMS Total Visual Sourcebook that I bought
> some time ago. It has a class library and some sample code for logging
> into an FTP site and selecting and downloading files. I just know,
> however, that my client will balk at the additional delay while I figure
> out an Access-only method for getting and sending EDI documents.
> 
> The DOS batch thing works but there are the additional clicks involved
> with closing the DOS window and then clicking the MsgBox OK button to
> continue processing. Any ideas?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Steve Erbach
> Scientific Marketing
> Neenah, WI
> 920-969-0504
> 
> "One of the differences in the two parties is that the Republicans always
> have problems filling many of the offices that are political, because most
> competent people would rather do something other than work for the
> government..." - Jerry Pournelle
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From mike.tope at dsl.pipex.com  Thu Apr 29 16:05:36 2004
From: mike.tope at dsl.pipex.com (Mike Tope)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 22:05:36 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] TransferText working sporadically.
References: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227B38@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <001201c42e2d$baab21c0$0207a8c0@TopEnergy>

Drew
Is the message really "Object is read-only" ?
File extension has to be .txt.
You may have set your machine years ago to get around it. There were ways.
Mike Tope


----- Original Message -----
From: <DWUTKA at marlow.com>
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: 29 April 2004 18:59
Subject: [AccessD] TransferText working sporadically.


> Our Payroll guy has an Access .mdb which imports data from our Hours
program
> (written in DataPoint), into Abra, our Payroll/HR package.  A few weeks
ago,
> that database stopped working, and it is failing on a line of code that is
> DoCmd.TransferText.  It says it is unable to write to the database.
>
> It works from my machine (Windows 2000, running Access 97), but not the
> payroll guy's machine, (NT 4.0 workstation, access 97).
>
> Both have the same service packs, etc.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Drew



From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Thu Apr 29 16:27:36 2004
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:27:36 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K Repair
Message-ID: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF407AD8264@xlivmbx12.aig.com>

Not much hope, but try importing all the objects in the database into a new,
empty database. 

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Gregg [SMTP:greggs at msn.com]
> Sent:	Thursday, April 29, 2004 11:20 AM
> To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject:	[AccessD] A2K Repair
> 
> I have a database that won't repair.  It is password protected and the
> first
> time I tried it, it would ask for the password, say it needs to be
> repaired,
> then say the password was invalid.  Loading SP3 got me past the invalid
> password issue. Then the repair would go half way and stop.  When I used
> jetcomp on it, it went half way and closed creating the new database.
> When
> I try to open the new database I get the message "Could not create... no
> modify design permission for table or query msysaccessobjects."  I also
> tried to upgrade it to 2003, got the repair message , then said it
> couldn't.
> 
> Everything I have read says it's toast.  Is that True?  There are no
> backups
> for at least a month. Any way to get the data back?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Gregg Steinbrenner
> 
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Thu Apr 29 16:56:01 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:56:01 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] TransferText working sporadically.
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227B40@main2.marlow.com>

Oh ya, forgot to mention.  From my machine it worked as me logged in, from
his machine, it gave the same error no matter who was logged in. (And I'm a
domain admin).

Drew

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jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 1:12 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Cc: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com; accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] TransferText working sporadically.



Do you both have the same rights to the target directory?


 

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                      Please respond to "Access

                      Developers discussion and

                      problem solving"

 

 





Our Payroll guy has an Access .mdb which imports data from our Hours
program
(written in DataPoint), into Abra, our Payroll/HR package.  A few weeks
ago,
that database stopped working, and it is failing on a line of code that is
DoCmd.TransferText.  It says it is unable to write to the database.

It works from my machine (Windows 2000, running Access 97), but not the
payroll guy's machine, (NT 4.0 workstation, access 97).

Both have the same service packs, etc.

Any thoughts?

Drew
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Thu Apr 29 16:59:46 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:59:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] TransferText working sporadically.
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227B41@main2.marlow.com>

Actually, the extension is .dat.  And my machine is a brand new installation
(I had to rebuild it about a month ago.

That is a VERY good point though.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mike Tope
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 4:06 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] TransferText working sporadically.


Drew
Is the message really "Object is read-only" ?
File extension has to be .txt.
You may have set your machine years ago to get around it. There were ways.
Mike Tope


----- Original Message -----
From: <DWUTKA at marlow.com>
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: 29 April 2004 18:59
Subject: [AccessD] TransferText working sporadically.


> Our Payroll guy has an Access .mdb which imports data from our Hours
program
> (written in DataPoint), into Abra, our Payroll/HR package.  A few weeks
ago,
> that database stopped working, and it is failing on a line of code that is
> DoCmd.TransferText.  It says it is unable to write to the database.
>
> It works from my machine (Windows 2000, running Access 97), but not the
> payroll guy's machine, (NT 4.0 workstation, access 97).
>
> Both have the same service packs, etc.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Drew

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From demulling at centurytel.net  Thu Apr 29 17:26:00 2004
From: demulling at centurytel.net (Demulling Family)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:26:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] TransferText working sporadically.
In-Reply-To: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227B40@main2.marlow.com>
References: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227B40@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <409180F8.6090504@centurytel.net>

DWUTKA at marlow.com wrote:

>Oh ya, forgot to mention.  From my machine it worked as me logged in, from
>his machine, it gave the same error no matter who was logged in. (And I'm a
>domain admin).
>
>Well, it was worth asking, had a problem similar about a month ago and it was the user's rights to the network, not the case here.  Have you tried reinstalling Access on the machine?  Might work...
>
>
>
>
>  
>




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 29 17:29:22 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:29:22 +1000
Subject: AW: [AccessD] OT Digital Shakespeare
In-Reply-To: <NEBBIILOPOPJBCLJIJHHOEPDFGAA.michael.broesdorf@web.de>
References: <s090fc7c.012@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>
Message-ID: <40920E62.25988.351338@localhost>

On 29 Apr 2004 at 19:51, Michael Brosdorf wrote:

> I don't get it: what is an 'i-D-10-t' problem??
> 
Similar to a PEBCAK fault.
...
...
...
...
...
...
...
...
...
...
...
...
...
...
...

Problem Exists Between Chair and Keyboard :-)

 
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From jwelz at hotmail.com  Thu Apr 29 18:00:25 2004
From: jwelz at hotmail.com (Jürgen Welz)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:00:25 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] User Defined Properties A97
Message-ID: <BAY2-F37xFEerfkdL3Q000346e8@hotmail.com>

Just guessing but I suspect that the problem is that DBEngine(0)(0) is only 
going to see the collections as at the time the database was opened or the 
last time CurrentDb was called.  If you replace DBEngine(0)(0) with 
CurrentDb, I suspect you will see the current property value.


Ciao
J?rgen Welz
Edmonton, Alberta
jwelz at hotmail.com

>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MACE, Terry
>Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 9:54 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: [AccessD] User Defined Properties A97
>
>
>I'm trying to use a custom property to store some changing information,
>which works fine, but when I try to read it, it only returns the value that
>was present when the database was opened.
>
>Is this the way it works or can I read the changed info. I'm using the
>following code to read the property 'Reference':
>
>DBEngine(0)(0).Containers("Databases").Documents("UserDefined").Properties("
>reference")
>
>Terry Mace
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From lists at theopg.com  Thu Apr 22 12:23:57 2004
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 18:23:57 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP Runtime and Autocad
In-Reply-To: <8614878414.20040413132824@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <000201c4288e$a5634530$0f0b6bd5@netboxxp>

Hello All...

We are using Access XP runtime on Windos XP and today a couple of
machines completely failed to load any access database. In both cases
Autocad 2002 had been installed this morning. You could get into simple
databases, but as soon as you load a form that contains a list or tree
control (mscomctl.ocx) access falls over offering to restart and send a
message to Microsoft... Nothing usefull really.

Anyone out there know what could be causing this problem?

Cheers

Mark



From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 29 20:13:44 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 21:13:44 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP Runtime and Autocad
References: <000201c4288e$a5634530$0f0b6bd5@netboxxp>
Message-ID: <000801c42e50$61dcacd0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...I'd try reapplying SP3 for the AXP runtime first ...if AutoCad replaced
it, the SP3 contains the current version ...that's assuming of course that
AutoCad didn't make the crc and version id exactly the same as the MS
version ...I remember the chaos AOL caused when they did something similar
with a number of files in their version 5.

...if the SP3 doesn't fix the problem I'd drop to DOS and delete the
mscomctl.ocx and then try SP3 again.

...if that doesn't work, its time for System Restore ...hth :)

William Hindman
"The world's becoming a museum of socialist failures." John Dos Passos


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To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 1:23 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP Runtime and Autocad


> Hello All...
>
> We are using Access XP runtime on Windos XP and today a couple of
> machines completely failed to load any access database. In both cases
> Autocad 2002 had been installed this morning. You could get into simple
> databases, but as soon as you load a form that contains a list or tree
> control (mscomctl.ocx) access falls over offering to restart and send a
> message to Microsoft... Nothing usefull really.
>
> Anyone out there know what could be causing this problem?
>
> Cheers
>
> Mark
>
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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Apr 29 22:54:52 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 13:54:52 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Rich Text Stuff I suppose
Message-ID: <011401c42e66$e43ab0d0$48619a89@DDICK>

Hello all
Can anyone point me to some good examples of using rich text boxes? Then have the result viewable on a report?

What I want is for the user to create a standard welcome letter for any new customers added to the dB
EG I Want the user to be able to do a basic kind of merge, something like...
Hi <<CustomerFirstName>>
Welcome to the mailing list for <<ProductLine>>.
We here at all MsDatabasesR4U are happy to have you aboard.

And have say...the word "MsDatabasesR4U" in bold for example

I have code for getting data into the tags eg <<ContactFirstName>> and <<ProductLine>>
But what I want is the ability for my data entry people to create such text in some sort of RTBox
bound to a memo field somewhere in a table. Then produce a report bound to the same memo field and have the
same formatting eg "MsDatabasesR4U" in bold - on this report with my data filling in the tags.

Sorry for the long post

Any suggestions or pointers?

Many thanks in advance

Darren




From greggs at msn.com  Thu Apr 29 23:45:43 2004
From: greggs at msn.com (Gregg)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 23:45:43 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K Repair
In-Reply-To: <8B98F8EA48F8BA47A2F24E0D0AF40CF407AD8264@xlivmbx12.aig.com>
Message-ID: <MOELIKDOANGCHBBIGOLICEDAEDAA.greggs@msn.com>

Tried that... get the "Not a database message"

But Thanks!

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 4:28 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: 'greggs at msn.com'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K Repair


Not much hope, but try importing all the objects in the database into a new,
empty database.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Gregg [SMTP:greggs at msn.com]
> Sent:	Thursday, April 29, 2004 11:20 AM
> To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject:	[AccessD] A2K Repair
>
> I have a database that won't repair.  It is password protected and the
> first
> time I tried it, it would ask for the password, say it needs to be
> repaired,
> then say the password was invalid.  Loading SP3 got me past the invalid
> password issue. Then the repair would go half way and stop.  When I used
> jetcomp on it, it went half way and closed creating the new database.
> When
> I try to open the new database I get the message "Could not create... no
> modify design permission for table or query msysaccessobjects."  I also
> tried to upgrade it to 2003, got the repair message , then said it
> couldn't.
>
> Everything I have read says it's toast.  Is that True?  There are no
> backups
> for at least a month. Any way to get the data back?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Gregg Steinbrenner
>
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From michael.broesdorf at web.de  Fri Apr 30 01:57:25 2004
From: michael.broesdorf at web.de (=?us-ascii?Q?Michael_Brosdorf?=)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:57:25 +0200
Subject: AW: AW: [AccessD] OT Digital Shakespeare
In-Reply-To: <s0910c63.093@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBIILOPOPJBCLJIJHHMEPKFGAA.michael.broesdorf@web.de>

I guess I should'nt have asked... 

:-))

Michael

-----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
Von: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von John Clark
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. April 2004 20:07
An: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Betreff: Re: AW: [AccessD] OT Digital Shakespeare


I wrote it the way that you say it, but if you put it
together...iD10t...or...idiot
 
John W Clark


>>> michael.broesdorf at web.de 4/29/2004 1:51:35 PM >>>

I don't get it: what is an 'i-D-10-t' problem??

Michael

-----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
Von: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von John Clark
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. April 2004 19:00
An: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Betreff: RE: [AccessD] OT Digital Shakespeare


Yeah, I got both these sayings from another site called
"ThinkGeek.com",
and they have been hanging in my office for the past couple of years.
Actually, they had been written on my whiteboard--for so long that the
shadow will remain forever--but I've been thinking of making a nice
sign
with these sayings. The SQL statement is actually my favorite, and it
has become sort of a theme. I can have it hanging in plain sight, and
my
users don't get it...sort of like when I tell them they are
experiencing
an "i-D-10-t" problem, which is more effective verbally.

>>> Developer at ultradnt.com 4/29/2004 9:44:12 AM >>>
This is more like a Friday thread, but the 2b thing reminded me of
this.
Theres a lot of t-shirts and other items with these types of sayings
in
a catalog called "Computer Gear" (no affiliation).
My fave t-shirt is:

SELECT * FROM users WHERE clue=true
0 Rows Returned


There's also an "RTFM" shirt, and one that says "There are 10 kinds of
people in this world, those who understand binary, and those who
don't".


Steve




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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan
Harkins
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 10:15 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Digital Shakespeare


Shakespeare always gets a little lost in the translation. ;) 

Susan H. 

Surely

or(2B,!2B)


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From lists at theopg.com  Fri Apr 30 03:10:44 2004
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 09:10:44 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP Runtime and Autocad
In-Reply-To: <000801c42e50$61dcacd0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
Message-ID: <000001c42e8a$a3396a30$8f0d6bd5@netboxxp>

Thanks William

Will have a go on Tuesday...

Mark

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William
Hindman
Sent: 30 April 2004 02:14
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access XP Runtime and Autocad


...I'd try reapplying SP3 for the AXP runtime first ...if AutoCad
replaced it, the SP3 contains the current version ...that's assuming of
course that AutoCad didn't make the crc and version id exactly the same
as the MS version ...I remember the chaos AOL caused when they did
something similar with a number of files in their version 5.

...if the SP3 doesn't fix the problem I'd drop to DOS and delete the
mscomctl.ocx and then try SP3 again.

...if that doesn't work, its time for System Restore ...hth :)

William Hindman
"The world's becoming a museum of socialist failures." John Dos Passos


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MarkH" <lists at theopg.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 1:23 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP Runtime and Autocad


> Hello All...
>
> We are using Access XP runtime on Windos XP and today a couple of 
> machines completely failed to load any access database. In both cases 
> Autocad 2002 had been installed this morning. You could get into 
> simple databases, but as soon as you load a form that contains a list 
> or tree control (mscomctl.ocx) access falls over offering to restart 
> and send a message to Microsoft... Nothing usefull really.
>
> Anyone out there know what could be causing this problem?
>
> Cheers
>
> Mark
>
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From viner at eunet.yu  Fri Apr 30 04:36:18 2004
From: viner at eunet.yu (Ervin Brindza)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:36:18 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Quick view of ico files
Message-ID: <000c01c42e96$d41c19c0$0100a8c0@razvoj>

I just downloaded from http://www.mvp-access.com/rubenvigon/recursos.htm over 11Mb of .ico and .avi files. Are there any way to browse them quickly?
TIA,
    Ervin


From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr 30 05:49:23 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 06:49:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Quick view of ico files
References: <000c01c42e96$d41c19c0$0100a8c0@razvoj>
Message-ID: <000801c42ea0$ccdb36a0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...in XP, you can just open them in explorer ...it will display the avis in
media player and use the MS Picture viewer to show the icons although, if
your explorer is configured properly, each icon will be shown in the pane
next to its file.

...don't much care for the avis but there are a number of well done and
useful icons in there ...thanks for the link :)

...there is some code available for browsing/viewing the bitmapped files
from within Access but I've not used it myself ...if that's what you were
looking for I can e you a sample mdb.

William Hindman
"The world's becoming a museum of socialist failures." John Dos Passos


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ervin Brindza" <viner at eunet.yu>
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 5:36 AM
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Quick view of ico files


I just downloaded from http://www.mvp-access.com/rubenvigon/recursos.htm
over 11Mb of .ico and .avi files. Are there any way to browse them quickly?
TIA,
    Ervin
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From serbach at new.rr.com  Fri Apr 30 06:15:18 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 06:15:18 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K Repair
Message-ID: <20040430061518.1467466482.serbach@new.rr.com>

Gregg,

The only other thing to try is to open it with the /decompile switch on the command line. Sorry.
 
Regards,
 
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
920-969-0504

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From serbach at new.rr.com  Fri Apr 30 06:17:22 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 06:17:22 -0500
Subject: AW: [AccessD] OT Digital Shakespeare
Message-ID: <20040430061722.2016038329.serbach@new.rr.com>

Stuart,

Or the NLIOC error: Nut Loose In Operator's Chair.

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI

"You must be an intellectual. No normal person would say a thing like that." - George Orwell



From viner at eunet.yu  Fri Apr 30 06:35:15 2004
From: viner at eunet.yu (Ervin Brindza)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 13:35:15 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Quick view of ico files
References: <000c01c42e96$d41c19c0$0100a8c0@razvoj>
	<000801c42ea0$ccdb36a0$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
Message-ID: <003501c42ea7$5aba6e40$0100a8c0@razvoj>

> ...there is some code available for browsing/viewing the bitmapped files
> from within Access but I've not used it myself ...if that's what you were
> looking for I can e you a sample mdb.
>
Yes, yes! I want to take as quick look as I can, because there are more than
12k files, and in Win98/Windows Explorer it is hard to watch all those
little file icons...
Send me the sample, please!
TIA,
    Ervin




From Susan.Klos at fldoe.org  Fri Apr 30 06:38:12 2004
From: Susan.Klos at fldoe.org (Klos, Susan)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 07:38:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] How to create a 2 year multimonth report
Message-ID: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE73612@DOESEFPEML02.EUS.FLDOE.INT>

I have to create a summary report which has to include this year's data and
last year's data.  It is to look something like this:

Item      Jan 04   Jan 03   Feb 04  Feb 03  Mar 04  Mar 03

Meals      200      198        210   209      185       190

Rooms    30         28           34       34         29         31

 

I can do the summary for 04 and 03 but I can't figure out how to get the
months together like above.

 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

850-245-0708 

sc 205-0708

 



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Apr 30 08:45:53 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 06:45:53 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
Message-ID: <005201c42eb9$750c3be0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Dear List:

I am trying to create a Chinese language version of my product with the help of a contact in Taiwan.

As an initial test she translated the captions on the Main Menu.  I created a front-end language file table to hold the two forms of Chinese (simple and complex) and can add fields as I add languages.

I sent her the table but she sent back an excel file of the table with the translations.  When I open the Excel file the Chinese characters display correctly (of course, how would I know?).  

But when I copy one of these strings from the Excel cell into the language table in Access it shows as squares - undisplayable character, I assume.  So Excel displays the Chinese but not my Access.  

I'm stating down the Access Help route but if anyone knows how to get Access to display foreign characters can you give me a lead?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com



From rbgajewski at adelphia.net  Fri Apr 30 08:52:53 2004
From: rbgajewski at adelphia.net (Bob Gajewski)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 09:52:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
In-Reply-To: <005201c42eb9$750c3be0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <LHEEKEKNLFONONKPIOCJIEHEGEAA.rbgajewski@adelphia.net>

Rocky

Odds are real strong that you simply don't have the font installed that she
used.

Bob Gajewski


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 09:46
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language


Dear List:

I am trying to create a Chinese language version of my product with the help
of a contact in Taiwan.

As an initial test she translated the captions on the Main Menu.  I created
a front-end language file table to hold the two forms of Chinese (simple and
complex) and can add fields as I add languages.

I sent her the table but she sent back an excel file of the table with the
translations.  When I open the Excel file the Chinese characters display
correctly (of course, how would I know?).

But when I copy one of these strings from the Excel cell into the language
table in Access it shows as squares - undisplayable character, I assume.  So
Excel displays the Chinese but not my Access.

I'm stating down the Access Help route but if anyone knows how to get Access
to display foreign characters can you give me a lead?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr 30 03:50:13 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 10:50:13 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Using the shell() function
In-Reply-To: <6FC1C7A6E7BD5540AB0A8436713C43BF084AD6CF@PKDWB01C.ad.sprint.com>
References: <6FC1C7A6E7BD5540AB0A8436713C43BF084AD6CF@PKDWB01C.ad.sprint.com>
Message-ID: <767733890.20040430105013@cactus.dk>

Hi Donald

Interesting approach!

/gustav


> Steve,

> I don't know if what I'm doing is similar to what you need to
> accomplish, but I've been working on a project that requires data
> capture via FTP.  I found a nifty program called WebDrive
> (http://www.webdrive.com) that allows you to map FTP sites as drives.
> In my db, I'm using a combination of VBA file manipulation functions
> (Dir, FileCopy, etc.) and Scripting FSO functionality to get and read
> text files via FTP.  You can refer to WebDrives using UNC or specific
> drive letters, and user names and passwords can be saved with the
> mappings so that they reconnect automatically upon system startup.  Best
> $40 I've spent in the last month or so . . .

> Hope this helps.

> Don McGillivray



From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr 30 03:30:21 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 10:30:21 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] User Defined Properties A97
In-Reply-To: <BAY2-F37xFEerfkdL3Q000346e8@hotmail.com>
References: <BAY2-F37xFEerfkdL3Q000346e8@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <706541426.20040430103021@cactus.dk>

Hi Terry

I think J?rgen caught this one.
However, you should also be able to do a

  DBEngine(0)(0).Refresh

to view any changes.

/gustav


> Just guessing but I suspect that the problem is that DBEngine(0)(0) is only 
> going to see the collections as at the time the database was opened or the 
> last time CurrentDb was called.  If you replace DBEngine(0)(0) with 
> CurrentDb, I suspect you will see the current property value.


> Ciao
> J?rgen Welz
> Edmonton, Alberta
> jwelz at hotmail.com

>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MACE, Terry
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 9:54 PM
>>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>>Subject: [AccessD] User Defined Properties A97
>>
>>
>>I'm trying to use a custom property to store some changing information,
>>which works fine, but when I try to read it, it only returns the value that
>>was present when the database was opened.
>>
>>Is this the way it works or can I read the changed info. I'm using the
>>following code to read the property 'Reference':
>>
>>DBEngine(0)(0).Containers("Databases").Documents("UserDefined").Properties("
>>reference")
>>
>>Terry Mace



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Apr 30 09:11:27 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 07:11:27 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
References: <005201c42eb9$750c3be0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <007001c42ebd$0704fac0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Dear List:

OK.  I'm making some progress.  I changed the font on one of the labels to
Unicode MS copied the Chinese characters from the Excel spreadsheet to the
Caption in the property sheet for the control, and viola! it displays
Chinese!  When I look in my Access Language table, however, I still have
little boxes.  The caption also shows as little boxes in the property sheet
of the control.

I haven't written the public function yet to take the Chinese from the table
and put it into the caption (the function will also, I guess, have to change
the font to Arial Unicode MS), but I'm concerned that it may show boxes.

Maybe I should stop bothering you all and see how far I can get on this by
myself.

But I have to tell you it's very exciting.  In the old DOS days I did a
Chinese language version of this product with this woman in Taiwan and I
remember the thrill the first time my Main Menu came up in Chinese.

Still, if anybody has any advice for me, it's appreciated.

Regards,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com



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From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 6:45 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language


Dear List:

I am trying to create a Chinese language version of my product with the help
of a contact in Taiwan.

As an initial test she translated the captions on the Main Menu.  I created
a front-end language file table to hold the two forms of Chinese (simple and
complex) and can add fields as I add languages.

I sent her the table but she sent back an excel file of the table with the
translations.  When I open the Excel file the Chinese characters display
correctly (of course, how would I know?).

But when I copy one of these strings from the Excel cell into the language
table in Access it shows as squares - undisplayable character, I assume.  So
Excel displays the Chinese but not my Access.

I'm stating down the Access Help route but if anyone knows how to get Access
to display foreign characters can you give me a lead?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com

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From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr 30 09:17:19 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 10:17:19 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
References: <LHEEKEKNLFONONKPIOCJIEHEGEAA.rbgajewski@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <004201c42ebd$d9434e60$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...besides the font, you might want to check your Jet SPs ...earlier
versions of Jet4 had a number of problems with DBCS languages ...I needed to
use a Thai set on an mdb and even though the correct font was installed I
got a lot of extended characters instead and queries on that data would not
work either ...a Jet update cured the problem.

William Hindman
"The world's becoming a museum of socialist failures." John Dos Passos


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Gajewski" <rbgajewski at adelphia.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:52 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Chinese Language


> Rocky
>
> Odds are real strong that you simply don't have the font installed that
she
> used.
>
> Bob Gajewski
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 09:46
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> I am trying to create a Chinese language version of my product with the
help
> of a contact in Taiwan.
>
> As an initial test she translated the captions on the Main Menu.  I
created
> a front-end language file table to hold the two forms of Chinese (simple
and
> complex) and can add fields as I add languages.
>
> I sent her the table but she sent back an excel file of the table with the
> translations.  When I open the Excel file the Chinese characters display
> correctly (of course, how would I know?).
>
> But when I copy one of these strings from the Excel cell into the language
> table in Access it shows as squares - undisplayable character, I assume.
So
> Excel displays the Chinese but not my Access.
>
> I'm stating down the Access Help route but if anyone knows how to get
Access
> to display foreign characters can you give me a lead?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
> --
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> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
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>




From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Apr 30 09:37:17 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 07:37:17 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
References: <LHEEKEKNLFONONKPIOCJIEHEGEAA.rbgajewski@adelphia.net>
	<004201c42ebd$d9434e60$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
Message-ID: <007c01c42ec0$a3735660$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

William:

Which SP did you have to get to fix the problem?

At the moment I'm just working with captions and labels.  But when they
start putting in data and I'm operating onthe data, they might run into the
problem.


Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 7:17 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Chinese Language


> ...besides the font, you might want to check your Jet SPs ...earlier
> versions of Jet4 had a number of problems with DBCS languages ...I needed
to
> use a Thai set on an mdb and even though the correct font was installed I
> got a lot of extended characters instead and queries on that data would
not
> work either ...a Jet update cured the problem.
>
> William Hindman
> "The world's becoming a museum of socialist failures." John Dos Passos
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bob Gajewski" <rbgajewski at adelphia.net>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:52 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Chinese Language
>
>
> > Rocky
> >
> > Odds are real strong that you simply don't have the font installed that
> she
> > used.
> >
> > Bob Gajewski
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> > Beach Access Software
> > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 09:46
> > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
> >
> >
> > Dear List:
> >
> > I am trying to create a Chinese language version of my product with the
> help
> > of a contact in Taiwan.
> >
> > As an initial test she translated the captions on the Main Menu.  I
> created
> > a front-end language file table to hold the two forms of Chinese (simple
> and
> > complex) and can add fields as I add languages.
> >
> > I sent her the table but she sent back an excel file of the table with
the
> > translations.  When I open the Excel file the Chinese characters display
> > correctly (of course, how would I know?).
> >
> > But when I copy one of these strings from the Excel cell into the
language
> > table in Access it shows as squares - undisplayable character, I assume.
> So
> > Excel displays the Chinese but not my Access.
> >
> > I'm stating down the Access Help route but if anyone knows how to get
> Access
> > to display foreign characters can you give me a lead?
> >
> > MTIA
> >
> > Rocky Smolin
> > Beach Access Software
> > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> >
> > --
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> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
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> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> >
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> >
>
>
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Apr 30 09:47:14 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 07:47:14 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
References: <005201c42eb9$750c3be0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
	<007001c42ebd$0704fac0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <008401c42ec2$07136060$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Dear List:

It seems that I can change the caption of a control through code:

ctl.Caption = rs(gstrLanguage)

' Where gstrLanguage is the field name in the language table of the language
selected by the user

but I can't change the font:

If InStr(1, gstrLanguage, "Chinese") <> 0 Then ctl.font = "Arial Unicode MS"

gives me 'object soesn't support this property or method'.

Is there a way to change the font of a control?  This code will be running
in an mde so opening the form in design mode isn't an option.

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 7:11 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Chinese Language


> Dear List:
>
> OK.  I'm making some progress.  I changed the font on one of the labels to
> Unicode MS copied the Chinese characters from the Excel spreadsheet to the
> Caption in the property sheet for the control, and viola! it displays
> Chinese!  When I look in my Access Language table, however, I still have
> little boxes.  The caption also shows as little boxes in the property
sheet
> of the control.
>
> I haven't written the public function yet to take the Chinese from the
table
> and put it into the caption (the function will also, I guess, have to
change
> the font to Arial Unicode MS), but I'm concerned that it may show boxes.
>
> Maybe I should stop bothering you all and see how far I can get on this by
> myself.
>
> But I have to tell you it's very exciting.  In the old DOS days I did a
> Chinese language version of this product with this woman in Taiwan and I
> remember the thrill the first time my Main Menu came up in Chinese.
>
> Still, if anybody has any advice for me, it's appreciated.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 6:45 AM
> Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> I am trying to create a Chinese language version of my product with the
help
> of a contact in Taiwan.
>
> As an initial test she translated the captions on the Main Menu.  I
created
> a front-end language file table to hold the two forms of Chinese (simple
and
> complex) and can add fields as I add languages.
>
> I sent her the table but she sent back an excel file of the table with the
> translations.  When I open the Excel file the Chinese characters display
> correctly (of course, how would I know?).
>
> But when I copy one of these strings from the Excel cell into the language
> table in Access it shows as squares - undisplayable character, I assume.
So
> Excel displays the Chinese but not my Access.
>
> I'm stating down the Access Help route but if anyone knows how to get
Access
> to display foreign characters can you give me a lead?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
> -- 
> _______________________________________________
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr 30 10:17:37 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 17:17:37 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
In-Reply-To: <008401c42ec2$07136060$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
References: <005201c42eb9$750c3be0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
	<007001c42ebd$0704fac0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
	<008401c42ec2$07136060$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <10330977683.20040430171737@cactus.dk>

Hi Rocky

Try with .FontName

/gustav


> It seems that I can change the caption of a control through code:

> ctl.Caption = rs(gstrLanguage)

> ' Where gstrLanguage is the field name in the language table of the language
> selected by the user

> but I can't change the font:

> If InStr(1, gstrLanguage, "Chinese") <> 0 Then ctl.font = "Arial Unicode MS"

> gives me 'object soesn't support this property or method'.



From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Apr 30 10:36:18 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:36:18 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Subform to Subform Updating
In-Reply-To: <NDBBJLJAILLNMMEMJPEEIEONGLAA.doug@starntech.com>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIMEBBCCAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Douglas:

Have you checked this page out yet?
http://www.databaseadvisors.com/newletters/newsletter032004/0310ReferenceGui
de/SyntaxForSubs.htm
(Watch for wrap)

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Douglas Barnes
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 9:04 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Subform to Subform Updating


I have a main form with 2 subforms (sub1, sub2). I can add records to sub1
as it is related to the main form. I can't seem to add records to sub2,
which is related to sub1.

Any insight on this would be appreciated.


Douglas Barnes
Starn Technical Services
P. O. 1172
Meadville, PA 16335

814.724.1045

doug at starntech.com
www.starntech.com

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Apr 30 10:41:02 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:41:02 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
References: <005201c42eb9$750c3be0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
	<007001c42ebd$0704fac0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
	<008401c42ec2$07136060$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
	<10330977683.20040430171737@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <00fe01c42ec9$8b350b30$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Gustav:

Thanks you!!!  Forgot about that 'name' thing.  It worked perfectly.  The
E-Z-MRP Main Menu displays in Chinese!

Best,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Chinese Language


> Hi Rocky
>
> Try with .FontName
>
> /gustav
>
>
> > It seems that I can change the caption of a control through code:
>
> > ctl.Caption = rs(gstrLanguage)
>
> > ' Where gstrLanguage is the field name in the language table of the
language
> > selected by the user
>
> > but I can't change the font:
>
> > If InStr(1, gstrLanguage, "Chinese") <> 0 Then ctl.font = "Arial Unicode
MS"
>
> > gives me 'object soesn't support this property or method'.
>
> -- 
> _______________________________________________
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com



From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr 30 10:44:54 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:44:54 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
References: <LHEEKEKNLFONONKPIOCJIEHEGEAA.rbgajewski@adelphia.net><004201c42ebd$d9434e60$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
	<007c01c42ec0$a3735660$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <00ec01c42eca$1704d280$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...was a while back Rocky ...well before 8 so if you (and your client) have
the latest you should be ok ...I'm assuming that you're using A2K or AXP in
a W2K or WXP environment.

William Hindman
"The world's becoming a museum of socialist failures." John Dos Passos


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Chinese Language


> William:
>
> Which SP did you have to get to fix the problem?
>
> At the moment I'm just working with captions and labels.  But when they
> start putting in data and I'm operating onthe data, they might run into
the
> problem.
>
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 7:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Chinese Language
>
>
> > ...besides the font, you might want to check your Jet SPs ...earlier
> > versions of Jet4 had a number of problems with DBCS languages ...I
needed
> to
> > use a Thai set on an mdb and even though the correct font was installed
I
> > got a lot of extended characters instead and queries on that data would
> not
> > work either ...a Jet update cured the problem.
> >
> > William Hindman
> > "The world's becoming a museum of socialist failures." John Dos Passos
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Bob Gajewski" <rbgajewski at adelphia.net>
> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:52 AM
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Chinese Language
> >
> >
> > > Rocky
> > >
> > > Odds are real strong that you simply don't have the font installed
that
> > she
> > > used.
> > >
> > > Bob Gajewski
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky
Smolin -
> > > Beach Access Software
> > > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 09:46
> > > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear List:
> > >
> > > I am trying to create a Chinese language version of my product with
the
> > help
> > > of a contact in Taiwan.
> > >
> > > As an initial test she translated the captions on the Main Menu.  I
> > created
> > > a front-end language file table to hold the two forms of Chinese
(simple
> > and
> > > complex) and can add fields as I add languages.
> > >
> > > I sent her the table but she sent back an excel file of the table with
> the
> > > translations.  When I open the Excel file the Chinese characters
display
> > > correctly (of course, how would I know?).
> > >
> > > But when I copy one of these strings from the Excel cell into the
> language
> > > table in Access it shows as squares - undisplayable character, I
assume.
> > So
> > > Excel displays the Chinese but not my Access.
> > >
> > > I'm stating down the Access Help route but if anyone knows how to get
> > Access
> > > to display foreign characters can you give me a lead?
> > >
> > > MTIA
> > >
> > > Rocky Smolin
> > > Beach Access Software
> > > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> > >
> > > --
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > AccessD mailing list
> > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > >
> > >
> > > -- 
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> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > >
> >
> >
> > -- 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Apr 30 10:53:51 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:53:51 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] New Officers for the DBA
In-Reply-To: <20040429110001.206625495.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIMEBCCCAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi All:

Congratulations to our new elected board members. Elections were concluded
Wednesday, 28 of April 2004. We have a new President, Vice-president and
Secretary. Other board members remained in their current positions.

A heart felt thanks to our retiring board members. Their contribution and
hard work was very much appreciated. Thank you all.

The results have been posted at http://www.databaseadvisors.com/

Jim



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Apr 30 11:02:12 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 09:02:12 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
References: <LHEEKEKNLFONONKPIOCJIEHEGEAA.rbgajewski@adelphia.net>
	<004201c42ebd$d9434e60$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
	<007c01c42ec0$a3735660$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
	<00ec01c42eca$1704d280$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
Message-ID: <011801c42ecc$7fe35ef0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Yeah it's A2K and it's working beautiful right now.  But that's just label
and command button caption.  We'll see once they put in some data.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Chinese Language


> ...was a while back Rocky ...well before 8 so if you (and your client)
have
> the latest you should be ok ...I'm assuming that you're using A2K or AXP
in
> a W2K or WXP environment.
>
> William Hindman
> "The world's becoming a museum of socialist failures." John Dos Passos
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 10:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Chinese Language
>
>
> > William:
> >
> > Which SP did you have to get to fix the problem?
> >
> > At the moment I'm just working with captions and labels.  But when they
> > start putting in data and I'm operating onthe data, they might run into
> the
> > problem.
> >
> >
> > Rocky
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 7:17 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Chinese Language
> >
> >
> > > ...besides the font, you might want to check your Jet SPs ...earlier
> > > versions of Jet4 had a number of problems with DBCS languages ...I
> needed
> > to
> > > use a Thai set on an mdb and even though the correct font was
installed
> I
> > > got a lot of extended characters instead and queries on that data
would
> > not
> > > work either ...a Jet update cured the problem.
> > >
> > > William Hindman
> > > "The world's becoming a museum of socialist failures." John Dos Passos
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Bob Gajewski" <rbgajewski at adelphia.net>
> > > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:52 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Chinese Language
> > >
> > >
> > > > Rocky
> > > >
> > > > Odds are real strong that you simply don't have the font installed
> that
> > > she
> > > > used.
> > > >
> > > > Bob Gajewski
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky
> Smolin -
> > > > Beach Access Software
> > > > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 09:46
> > > > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear List:
> > > >
> > > > I am trying to create a Chinese language version of my product with
> the
> > > help
> > > > of a contact in Taiwan.
> > > >
> > > > As an initial test she translated the captions on the Main Menu.  I
> > > created
> > > > a front-end language file table to hold the two forms of Chinese
> (simple
> > > and
> > > > complex) and can add fields as I add languages.
> > > >
> > > > I sent her the table but she sent back an excel file of the table
with
> > the
> > > > translations.  When I open the Excel file the Chinese characters
> display
> > > > correctly (of course, how would I know?).
> > > >
> > > > But when I copy one of these strings from the Excel cell into the
> > language
> > > > table in Access it shows as squares - undisplayable character, I
> assume.
> > > So
> > > > Excel displays the Chinese but not my Access.
> > > >
> > > > I'm stating down the Access Help route but if anyone knows how to
get
> > > Access
> > > > to display foreign characters can you give me a lead?
> > > >
> > > > MTIA
> > > >
> > > > Rocky Smolin
> > > > Beach Access Software
> > > > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> > > >
> > > > --
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Apr 30 11:24:07 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 09:24:07 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] TransferText working sporadically.
In-Reply-To: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227B38@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIKEBDCCAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Drew:

I have no specific knowledge of your site but as an outside observer this
would be my approach:

If it was a user I would ask (suspiciously, I might add) has there been any
recent upgrades to the computers in question. (The answer is of course
always, NO.)

The problem might be with Abra...has it reach the 2 GB limit? (A lot of
older databases had that limitation not just Access)

If your accessing works fine maybe the Payroll guy is running some
procedures that you are not?

Is the Payroll guy using a different FE? if so maybe an update is warranted.

This is a few of the questions I would check out.

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 11:00 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] TransferText working sporadically.


Our Payroll guy has an Access .mdb which imports data from our Hours program
(written in DataPoint), into Abra, our Payroll/HR package.  A few weeks ago,
that database stopped working, and it is failing on a line of code that is
DoCmd.TransferText.  It says it is unable to write to the database.

It works from my machine (Windows 2000, running Access 97), but not the
payroll guy's machine, (NT 4.0 workstation, access 97).

Both have the same service packs, etc.

Any thoughts?

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From wdhindman at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr 30 11:23:48 2004
From: wdhindman at bellsouth.net (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:23:48 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
References: <LHEEKEKNLFONONKPIOCJIEHEGEAA.rbgajewski@adelphia.net><004201c42ebd$d9434e60$6101a8c0@dejpolsys><007c01c42ec0$a3735660$6601a8c0@HAL9002><00ec01c42eca$1704d280$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
	<011801c42ecc$7fe35ef0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <001401c42ecf$849ce800$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>

...I'd think that data sorts could be a problem ...it is with Thai ...you'll
want your translator to test that pretty thoroughly.
...the other thing I ran into was a number of burps when the user had a full
Thai version of Access installed rather than my runtime.

William Hindman
"The world's becoming a museum of socialist failures." John Dos Passos


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Chinese Language


> Yeah it's A2K and it's working beautiful right now.  But that's just label
> and command button caption.  We'll see once they put in some data.
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 8:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Chinese Language
>
>
> > ...was a while back Rocky ...well before 8 so if you (and your client)
> have
> > the latest you should be ok ...I'm assuming that you're using A2K or AXP
> in
> > a W2K or WXP environment.
> >
> > William Hindman
> > "The world's becoming a museum of socialist failures." John Dos Passos
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 10:37 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Chinese Language
> >
> >
> > > William:
> > >
> > > Which SP did you have to get to fix the problem?
> > >
> > > At the moment I'm just working with captions and labels.  But when
they
> > > start putting in data and I'm operating onthe data, they might run
into
> > the
> > > problem.
> > >
> > >
> > > Rocky
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
> > > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 7:17 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Chinese Language
> > >
> > >
> > > > ...besides the font, you might want to check your Jet SPs ...earlier
> > > > versions of Jet4 had a number of problems with DBCS languages ...I
> > needed
> > > to
> > > > use a Thai set on an mdb and even though the correct font was
> installed
> > I
> > > > got a lot of extended characters instead and queries on that data
> would
> > > not
> > > > work either ...a Jet update cured the problem.
> > > >
> > > > William Hindman
> > > > "The world's becoming a museum of socialist failures." John Dos
Passos
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: "Bob Gajewski" <rbgajewski at adelphia.net>
> > > > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > > > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:52 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Chinese Language
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Rocky
> > > > >
> > > > > Odds are real strong that you simply don't have the font installed
> > that
> > > > she
> > > > > used.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bob Gajewski
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky
> > Smolin -
> > > > > Beach Access Software
> > > > > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 09:46
> > > > > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > > Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear List:
> > > > >
> > > > > I am trying to create a Chinese language version of my product
with
> > the
> > > > help
> > > > > of a contact in Taiwan.
> > > > >
> > > > > As an initial test she translated the captions on the Main Menu.
I
> > > > created
> > > > > a front-end language file table to hold the two forms of Chinese
> > (simple
> > > > and
> > > > > complex) and can add fields as I add languages.
> > > > >
> > > > > I sent her the table but she sent back an excel file of the table
> with
> > > the
> > > > > translations.  When I open the Excel file the Chinese characters
> > display
> > > > > correctly (of course, how would I know?).
> > > > >
> > > > > But when I copy one of these strings from the Excel cell into the
> > > language
> > > > > table in Access it shows as squares - undisplayable character, I
> > assume.
> > > > So
> > > > > Excel displays the Chinese but not my Access.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm stating down the Access Help route but if anyone knows how to
> get
> > > > Access
> > > > > to display foreign characters can you give me a lead?
> > > > >
> > > > > MTIA
> > > > >
> > > > > Rocky Smolin
> > > > > Beach Access Software
> > > > > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> > > > >
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Apr 30 11:31:17 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:31:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] TransferText working sporadically.
Message-ID: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227B4E@main2.marlow.com>

Abra was upgraded to a newer version of Foxpro.  but I don't see how that
would affect the TransferText funtion from importing a text file into Abra.
He is going to try it from a Windows 2000 machine, to see if it's a quirk
with NT 4.0.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
(AccessD)
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 11:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] TransferText working sporadically.


Hi Drew:

I have no specific knowledge of your site but as an outside observer this
would be my approach:

If it was a user I would ask (suspiciously, I might add) has there been any
recent upgrades to the computers in question. (The answer is of course
always, NO.)

The problem might be with Abra...has it reach the 2 GB limit? (A lot of
older databases had that limitation not just Access)

If your accessing works fine maybe the Payroll guy is running some
procedures that you are not?

Is the Payroll guy using a different FE? if so maybe an update is warranted.

This is a few of the questions I would check out.

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 11:00 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] TransferText working sporadically.


Our Payroll guy has an Access .mdb which imports data from our Hours program
(written in DataPoint), into Abra, our Payroll/HR package.  A few weeks ago,
that database stopped working, and it is failing on a line of code that is
DoCmd.TransferText.  It says it is unable to write to the database.

It works from my machine (Windows 2000, running Access 97), but not the
payroll guy's machine, (NT 4.0 workstation, access 97).

Both have the same service packs, etc.

Any thoughts?

Drew
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Apr 30 11:41:46 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 09:41:46 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
In-Reply-To: <005201c42eb9$750c3be0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIKEBECCAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Rocky:

Check the Excel spread sheet that was sent to you and you will find the name
of the font, probably 'msp mincho', imbedded in the sheet. If you save the
sheet as a web page the imbedded font will show up in the resulting html
code header. The computer using the program will probably have to be setup
to uses the character set in question, See:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;225865 for further
details.

HTH
Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 6:46 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language


Dear List:

I am trying to create a Chinese language version of my product with the help
of a contact in Taiwan.

As an initial test she translated the captions on the Main Menu.  I created
a front-end language file table to hold the two forms of Chinese (simple and
complex) and can add fields as I add languages.

I sent her the table but she sent back an excel file of the table with the
translations.  When I open the Excel file the Chinese characters display
correctly (of course, how would I know?).

But when I copy one of these strings from the Excel cell into the language
table in Access it shows as squares - undisplayable character, I assume.  So
Excel displays the Chinese but not my Access.

I'm stating down the Access Help route but if anyone knows how to get Access
to display foreign characters can you give me a lead?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Apr 30 12:15:47 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 10:15:47 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] TransferText working sporadically.
References: <2F8793082E00D4119A1700B0D0216BF802227B4E@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <409289C3.5000503@shaw.ca>

ACC2000: How to Import a Text File That Has an Extension That Access 
Does Not Recognize
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;306144&Product=acc
Also check the registry key for disabled extensions on both machines as 
per above

DWUTKA at marlow.com wrote:

>Abra was upgraded to a newer version of Foxpro.  but I don't see how that
>would affect the TransferText funtion from importing a text file into Abra.
>He is going to try it from a Windows 2000 machine, to see if it's a quirk
>with NT 4.0.
>
>Drew
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
>(AccessD)
>Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 11:24 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] TransferText working sporadically.
>
>
>Hi Drew:
>
>I have no specific knowledge of your site but as an outside observer this
>would be my approach:
>
>If it was a user I would ask (suspiciously, I might add) has there been any
>recent upgrades to the computers in question. (The answer is of course
>always, NO.)
>
>The problem might be with Abra...has it reach the 2 GB limit? (A lot of
>older databases had that limitation not just Access)
>
>If your accessing works fine maybe the Payroll guy is running some
>procedures that you are not?
>
>Is the Payroll guy using a different FE? if so maybe an update is warranted.
>
>This is a few of the questions I would check out.
>
>HTH
>Jim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
>DWUTKA at marlow.com
>Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 11:00 AM
>To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] TransferText working sporadically.
>
>
>Our Payroll guy has an Access .mdb which imports data from our Hours program
>(written in DataPoint), into Abra, our Payroll/HR package.  A few weeks ago,
>that database stopped working, and it is failing on a line of code that is
>DoCmd.TransferText.  It says it is unable to write to the database.
>
>It works from my machine (Windows 2000, running Access 97), but not the
>payroll guy's machine, (NT 4.0 workstation, access 97).
>
>Both have the same service packs, etc.
>
>Any thoughts?
>
>Drew
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>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From garykjos at hotmail.com  Fri Apr 30 12:50:39 2004
From: garykjos at hotmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:50:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] New Officers for the DBA
Message-ID: <BAY2-F7sBXBLfhg35QY0001441a@hotmail.com>

Yes, congratulations to the new officers, John, Reuben and Susan and thaink 
you for volunteering your time and energy. And many thanks to Lembit, Donna 
and Patty for all the work you have put in over the past year.

Gary Kjos
garykjos at hotmail.com





>From: "Jim Lawrence (AccessD)" <accessd at shaw.ca>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: [AccessD] New Officers for the DBA
>Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:53:51 -0700
>
>Hi All:
>
>Congratulations to our new elected board members. Elections were concluded
>Wednesday, 28 of April 2004. We have a new President, Vice-president and
>Secretary. Other board members remained in their current positions.
>
>A heart felt thanks to our retiring board members. Their contribution and
>hard work was very much appreciated. Thank you all.
>
>The results have been posted at http://www.databaseadvisors.com/
>
>Jim
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Apr 30 13:45:08 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:45:08 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
References: <LHEEKEKNLFONONKPIOCJIEHEGEAA.rbgajewski@adelphia.net>
	<004201c42ebd$d9434e60$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
	<007c01c42ec0$a3735660$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
	<00ec01c42eca$1704d280$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
	<011801c42ecc$7fe35ef0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <40929EB4.2020403@shaw.ca>

You might want to pick up a used copy of this book on amazon or ebay
It is selling for anywhere between about $50 and $200 used (out of print)
The book rambles a bit and has been panned because it assumes a lot of 
OS and VB knowledge.
But should help you out with Jet collation problems in other languages, 
codepages and IME's.
 It doesn't cover the MS OS above Win 2000.

Internationalization With Visual Basic

 Author:  Michael Kaplan  
 Publisher:  Macmillan Computer Pub  
 ISBN:  0672319772      
 Publication Year:  2000 

Chapters from book
http://www.i18nwithvb.com/chapters/

In (simplified chinese) for your Chinese compatriots
ANSI or Unicode?
http://www.i18nwithvb.com/chapters/Chapter16_sc.htm
Testing International Software
http://www.i18nwithvb.com/chapters/Chapter06_sc.htm

i18N = Internationalization (or Globalization): mainly a program able to 
manage in any locale the locale language and settings.

M18N = Multinationalization: mainly a program able to manage (display 
and input) several languages in any locale.

L10N = Localization: mainly a program able to display its translated and 
adapted version to several locales.


Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:

>Yeah it's A2K and it's working beautiful right now.  But that's just label
>and command button caption.  We'll see once they put in some data.
>
>Rocky
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 8:44 AM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Chinese Language
>
>
>  
>
>>...was a while back Rocky ...well before 8 so if you (and your client)
>>    
>>
>have
>  
>
>>the latest you should be ok ...I'm assuming that you're using A2K or AXP
>>    
>>
>in
>  
>
>>a W2K or WXP environment.
>>
>>William Hindman
>>"The world's becoming a museum of socialist failures." John Dos Passos
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 10:37 AM
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Chinese Language
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>>>William:
>>>
>>>Which SP did you have to get to fix the problem?
>>>
>>>At the moment I'm just working with captions and labels.  But when they
>>>start putting in data and I'm operating onthe data, they might run into
>>>      
>>>
>>the
>>    
>>
>>>problem.
>>>
>>>
>>>Rocky
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
>>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>>><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 7:17 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Chinese Language
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>...besides the font, you might want to check your Jet SPs ...earlier
>>>>versions of Jet4 had a number of problems with DBCS languages ...I
>>>>        
>>>>
>>needed
>>    
>>
>>>to
>>>      
>>>
>>>>use a Thai set on an mdb and even though the correct font was
>>>>        
>>>>
>installed
>  
>
>>I
>>    
>>
>>>>got a lot of extended characters instead and queries on that data
>>>>        
>>>>
>would
>  
>
>>>not
>>>      
>>>
>>>>work either ...a Jet update cured the problem.
>>>>
>>>>William Hindman
>>>>"The world's becoming a museum of socialist failures." John Dos Passos
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>From: "Bob Gajewski" <rbgajewski at adelphia.net>
>>>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>>>><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>>Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:52 AM
>>>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Chinese Language
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>Rocky
>>>>>
>>>>>Odds are real strong that you simply don't have the font installed
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>that
>>    
>>
>>>>she
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>used.
>>>>>
>>>>>Bob Gajewski
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>Smolin -
>>    
>>
>>>>>Beach Access Software
>>>>>Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 09:46
>>>>>To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>>Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Dear List:
>>>>>
>>>>>I am trying to create a Chinese language version of my product with
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>the
>>    
>>
>>>>help
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>of a contact in Taiwan.
>>>>>
>>>>>As an initial test she translated the captions on the Main Menu.  I
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>created
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>a front-end language file table to hold the two forms of Chinese
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>(simple
>>    
>>
>>>>and
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>complex) and can add fields as I add languages.
>>>>>
>>>>>I sent her the table but she sent back an excel file of the table
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>with
>  
>
>>>the
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>translations.  When I open the Excel file the Chinese characters
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>display
>>    
>>
>>>>>correctly (of course, how would I know?).
>>>>>
>>>>>But when I copy one of these strings from the Excel cell into the
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>language
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>table in Access it shows as squares - undisplayable character, I
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>assume.
>>    
>>
>>>>So
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>Excel displays the Chinese but not my Access.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm stating down the Access Help route but if anyone knows how to
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>get
>  
>
>>>>Access
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>to display foreign characters can you give me a lead?
>>>>>
>>>>>MTIA
>>>>>
>>>>>Rocky Smolin
>>>>>Beach Access Software
>>>>>http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>>>>>
>>>>>--
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>
>>    
>>
>
>  
>

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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Apr 30 13:56:09 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:56:09 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
References: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIKEBECCAA.accessd@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <019901c42ee4$cd1393d0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Jim:

Well I did that but the html source was singularly uninformative.
Nevertheless, I've got the Chinese display working and it's lovely.

Now if I can get her to do the rest of the translation and take it to
mainland China, I'll be a billionaire. :)

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Lawrence (AccessD)" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:41 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Chinese Language


> Hi Rocky:
>
> Check the Excel spread sheet that was sent to you and you will find the
name
> of the font, probably 'msp mincho', imbedded in the sheet. If you save the
> sheet as a web page the imbedded font will show up in the resulting html
> code header. The computer using the program will probably have to be setup
> to uses the character set in question, See:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;225865 for further
> details.
>
> HTH
> Jim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 6:46 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> I am trying to create a Chinese language version of my product with the
help
> of a contact in Taiwan.
>
> As an initial test she translated the captions on the Main Menu.  I
created
> a front-end language file table to hold the two forms of Chinese (simple
and
> complex) and can add fields as I add languages.
>
> I sent her the table but she sent back an excel file of the table with the
> translations.  When I open the Excel file the Chinese characters display
> correctly (of course, how would I know?).
>
> But when I copy one of these strings from the Excel cell into the language
> table in Access it shows as squares - undisplayable character, I assume.
So
> Excel displays the Chinese but not my Access.
>
> I'm stating down the Access Help route but if anyone knows how to get
Access
> to display foreign characters can you give me a lead?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Apr 30 13:58:37 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:58:37 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
References: <LHEEKEKNLFONONKPIOCJIEHEGEAA.rbgajewski@adelphia.net>
	<004201c42ebd$d9434e60$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
	<007c01c42ec0$a3735660$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
	<00ec01c42eca$1704d280$6101a8c0@dejpolsys>
	<011801c42ecc$7fe35ef0$6601a8c0@HAL9002> <40929EB4.2020403@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <01a301c42ee5$24d824f0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Marty:

That looks very useful.  Thanks.

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Chinese Language


> You might want to pick up a used copy of this book on amazon or ebay
> It is selling for anywhere between about $50 and $200 used (out of print)
> The book rambles a bit and has been panned because it assumes a lot of
> OS and VB knowledge.
> But should help you out with Jet collation problems in other languages,
> codepages and IME's.
>  It doesn't cover the MS OS above Win 2000.
>
> Internationalization With Visual Basic
>
>  Author:  Michael Kaplan
>  Publisher:  Macmillan Computer Pub
>  ISBN:  0672319772
>  Publication Year:  2000
>
> Chapters from book
> http://www.i18nwithvb.com/chapters/
>
> In (simplified chinese) for your Chinese compatriots
> ANSI or Unicode?
> http://www.i18nwithvb.com/chapters/Chapter16_sc.htm
> Testing International Software
> http://www.i18nwithvb.com/chapters/Chapter06_sc.htm
>
> i18N = Internationalization (or Globalization): mainly a program able to
> manage in any locale the locale language and settings.
>
> M18N = Multinationalization: mainly a program able to manage (display
> and input) several languages in any locale.
>
> L10N = Localization: mainly a program able to display its translated and
> adapted version to several locales.
>
>
> Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>
> >Yeah it's A2K and it's working beautiful right now.  But that's just
label
> >and command button caption.  We'll see once they put in some data.
> >
> >Rocky
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
> >To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> ><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 8:44 AM
> >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Chinese Language
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>...was a while back Rocky ...well before 8 so if you (and your client)
> >>
> >>
> >have
> >
> >
> >>the latest you should be ok ...I'm assuming that you're using A2K or AXP
> >>
> >>
> >in
> >
> >
> >>a W2K or WXP environment.
> >>
> >>William Hindman
> >>"The world's becoming a museum of socialist failures." John Dos Passos
> >>
> >>
> >>----- Original Message ----- 
> >>From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> >>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> >><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >>Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 10:37 AM
> >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Chinese Language
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>William:
> >>>
> >>>Which SP did you have to get to fix the problem?
> >>>
> >>>At the moment I'm just working with captions and labels.  But when they
> >>>start putting in data and I'm operating onthe data, they might run into
> >>>
> >>>
> >>the
> >>
> >>
> >>>problem.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Rocky
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message ----- 
> >>>From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
> >>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> >>><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >>>Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 7:17 AM
> >>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Chinese Language
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>...besides the font, you might want to check your Jet SPs ...earlier
> >>>>versions of Jet4 had a number of problems with DBCS languages ...I
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>needed
> >>
> >>
> >>>to
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>use a Thai set on an mdb and even though the correct font was
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >installed
> >
> >
> >>I
> >>
> >>
> >>>>got a lot of extended characters instead and queries on that data
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >would
> >
> >
> >>>not
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>work either ...a Jet update cured the problem.
> >>>>
> >>>>William Hindman
> >>>>"The world's becoming a museum of socialist failures." John Dos Passos
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>----- Original Message ----- 
> >>>>From: "Bob Gajewski" <rbgajewski at adelphia.net>
> >>>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> >>>><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >>>>Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:52 AM
> >>>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Chinese Language
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Rocky
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Odds are real strong that you simply don't have the font installed
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>that
> >>
> >>
> >>>>she
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>used.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Bob Gajewski
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >>>>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>Smolin -
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>Beach Access Software
> >>>>>Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 09:46
> >>>>>To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> >>>>>Subject: [AccessD] Chinese Language
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Dear List:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I am trying to create a Chinese language version of my product with
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>the
> >>
> >>
> >>>>help
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>of a contact in Taiwan.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>As an initial test she translated the captions on the Main Menu.  I
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>created
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>a front-end language file table to hold the two forms of Chinese
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>(simple
> >>
> >>
> >>>>and
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>complex) and can add fields as I add languages.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I sent her the table but she sent back an excel file of the table
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >with
> >
> >
> >>>the
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>translations.  When I open the Excel file the Chinese characters
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>display
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>correctly (of course, how would I know?).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>But when I copy one of these strings from the Excel cell into the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>language
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>table in Access it shows as squares - undisplayable character, I
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>assume.
> >>
> >>
> >>>>So
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Excel displays the Chinese but not my Access.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I'm stating down the Access Help route but if anyone knows how to
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >get
> >
> >
> >>>>Access
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>to display foreign characters can you give me a lead?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>MTIA
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Rocky Smolin
> >>>>>Beach Access Software
> >>>>>http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>--
> >>>>>_______________________________________________
> >>>>>AccessD mailing list
> >>>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> >>>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> >>>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>-- 
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> >>>>>AccessD mailing list
> >>>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> >>>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> >>>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>-- 
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> >>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> >>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>
> >>>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> -- 
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> Victoria, B.C.
> Canada
>
>
>
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From lists at theopg.com  Fri Apr 30 14:22:32 2004
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 20:22:32 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Sub form updates not immediately visible to parent
In-Reply-To: <409289C3.5000503@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <007001c42ee8$7c8fdd70$8f0d6bd5@netboxxp>

Hi all

Using AXP in WinXP

I have a very complex form and subform where the parent performs
calculations based, partly on, records accessed through the subform.
Inclusion of the subform records in the calcs is dependant on a yes/no
field being set to yes.

On the parent is a button which refreshes the calcs. If I change the
subforms yes/no value and then click the refresh button on the parent
straight away, the change is not always reflected in the calculations.
If I wait 5 or 6 seconds (working on a local backend) then everything is
fine.

I have spent a lot of time trying to simplify the code (the refresh
button being a result) but no matter what there is still a delay
resulting in the calcs not always being refreshed properly. I tried
requerying and saving in the subform both after the edit and when the
refresh button is clicked but I still get the same problem.

Any one got any pointers, I'd be real greatful.

Thanks and have a good weekend (I'm off at last)

Mark



From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Fri Apr 30 15:48:18 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 16:48:18 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Deployment Woes
Message-ID: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBBBD@nnse14.nns.com>

I need the weekend to think this over, but I'm open for suggestions.  Our
department currently utilizes an existing database which is not split.
There are an estimated 100 shortcuts to this database littered throughout
the department.  Do to a rising concern in "concurrency issues", I need to
split this db.  With such an ingrained dependency on the existing shortcut,
it was suggested that I utilize the existing db as nothing more than a
glorified .bat file starter to distribute the new FE and subsequently check
revision status.  This seems like an awful lot of overhead in order to
placate the existing user base, and obviously would increase start-up times.
What do you think?



Mark


From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Fri Apr 30 15:51:22 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 16:51:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Sub form updates not immediately visible to parent
In-Reply-To: <007001c42ee8$7c8fdd70$8f0d6bd5@netboxxp>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKAEOJJBAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Mark,

  Add a dbEngine.Idle after refreshing the subform records and just before
you do the calculations.  This will force JET to finish up it's background
tasks before continuing with code execution.

Jim
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MarkH
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 3:23 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Sub form updates not immediately visible to parent


Hi all

Using AXP in WinXP

I have a very complex form and subform where the parent performs
calculations based, partly on, records accessed through the subform.
Inclusion of the subform records in the calcs is dependant on a yes/no
field being set to yes.

On the parent is a button which refreshes the calcs. If I change the
subforms yes/no value and then click the refresh button on the parent
straight away, the change is not always reflected in the calculations.
If I wait 5 or 6 seconds (working on a local backend) then everything is
fine.

I have spent a lot of time trying to simplify the code (the refresh
button being a result) but no matter what there is still a delay
resulting in the calcs not always being refreshed properly. I tried
requerying and saving in the subform both after the edit and when the
refresh button is clicked but I still get the same problem.

Any one got any pointers, I'd be real greatful.

Thanks and have a good weekend (I'm off at last)

Mark

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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Fri Apr 30 16:06:45 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 17:06:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Deployment Woes
In-Reply-To: <D3E2A213B8F45B4DAC92EB5FD98ED1EF010EBBBD@nnse14.nns.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKAEOKJBAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Mark,

  I've seen it done both ways; A "launcher" app as you outlined and a FE
which does it's version checks on it's own.

  The existing short cuts though are not really a big issue.  You can easily
have the existing app call a bat file which:

1. Deletes the existing shortcut.
2. Creates the directory structure on the client required for the local FE.
3. Copies down the new FE and supporting files.
4. Creates a new shortcut on the desktop to point to the local FE.
5. Creates a shortcut on the desktop to point to a bat file on the server to
use for future updates.

  I do my distribution sets in the latter mode and do a batch file as
outlined above.  The FE at startup compares an local table to the same table
that's in a the FE on the server.  If the two don't match versions (I placed
an new FE on the server), the app tells the user to update and quits.

  The update is nothing more then executing the bat file on the server,
which works as outlined as above.

  Personally I think it's a six one way half a dozen another type of thing.

Jim
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
S. (Newport News)
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 4:48 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Deployment Woes


I need the weekend to think this over, but I'm open for suggestions.  Our
department currently utilizes an existing database which is not split.
There are an estimated 100 shortcuts to this database littered throughout
the department.  Do to a rising concern in "concurrency issues", I need to
split this db.  With such an ingrained dependency on the existing shortcut,
it was suggested that I utilize the existing db as nothing more than a
glorified .bat file starter to distribute the new FE and subsequently check
revision status.  This seems like an awful lot of overhead in order to
placate the existing user base, and obviously would increase start-up times.
What do you think?



Mark
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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Fri Apr 30 16:14:05 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 16:14:05 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Deployment Woes
Message-ID: <426071E0B0A6D311B3C0006008B0AB23AFE576@TAPPEEXCH01>

Mark,
I do that for all of my distributed apps.
Adds half a second to the startup time of an application (unless, of course,
it has to copy a new version of the FE to their workstation.)
Don't know how using a batch file would add to the overhead.  Can you
elaborate?

Oh yeah, here is a sample of my batch file.
- In our office, all users have the Access 2000 runtime installed on their
machines, and we use server-based start menu profiles.  
- Installing new apps on their workstation is as simple as dropping a
shortcut to the batch file in their start menu directory.
- I created an app shortcut called Launcher, that has the command line to
start the app.  It is located in the same server directory as the batch
file, and is executed at the end of the batch file processing.

Well, here it is!
----------
@echo off
rem ** Change this variable with each new version release
set verfile=123.ver

rem ** Create directory if necessary
if exist c:\myappdir\nul goto app
mkdir c:\myappdir

:app
rem ** Copy the newest application file from server if it is newer version
if exist c:\myappdir\%verfile% goto end
echo Updating application files.  Please Wait...
copy h:\myappdir\myfrontend.mdb c:\myappdir /y > nul

rem ** Delete the existing version file, and create a new one
if exist c:\myappdir\*.ver del c:\myappdir\*.ver
type nul > c:\myappdir\%verfile%

:end
rem ** Run the application using Access Runtime
start Launcher
----------

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com]
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 3:48 PM
To: '[AccessD]'
Subject: [AccessD] Deployment Woes


I need the weekend to think this over, but I'm open for suggestions.  Our
department currently utilizes an existing database which is not split.
There are an estimated 100 shortcuts to this database littered throughout
the department.  Do to a rising concern in "concurrency issues", I need to
split this db.  With such an ingrained dependency on the existing shortcut,
it was suggested that I utilize the existing db as nothing more than a
glorified .bat file starter to distribute the new FE and subsequently check
revision status.  This seems like an awful lot of overhead in order to
placate the existing user base, and obviously would increase start-up times.
What do you think?



Mark
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Apr 30 19:30:57 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 10:30:57 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Quick view of ico files
In-Reply-To: <000c01c42e96$d41c19c0$0100a8c0@razvoj>
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On 30 Apr 2004 at 11:36, Ervin Brindza wrote:

> I just downloaded from http://www.mvp-access.com/rubenvigon/recursos.htm over 11Mb of .ico and .avi files. Are there any way to browse them quickly?
> TIA,
>     Ervin

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