William Hindman
wdhindman at bellsouth.net
Mon Apr 26 09:54:09 CDT 2004
...if there is any merit to this I'm hopeful that it will push earlier adoption of the SVG format ...SVG is an open-standard vector graphics language based on XML and has been developed by a working group of the W3C ...it produces readily scalable graphics with much smaller file size ...its wide adoption would significantly improve the net in many ways. :) William Hindman "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 10:22 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT jpeg lawsuit (was jpg Screen shot) > I initially became interested in PNG after Unisys launched their LZW patents > against software companies offering GIF support. I was under the mistaken > impression the jpeg was an open standard. Guess not! > > IMHO, PNG is a poor substitute for JPEG, as its compression works best on > images with large blocks of same colors (a la screenshots). Not very > effective for photos. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net] > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 9:01 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT jpeg lawsuit (was jpg Screen shot) > > Speak of the devil, we just might start seeing an increase in the use of the > png format. These is a lawsuit concerning the jpeg patent rights and license > fees (ala SCO UNIX code in Linux?): > > http://internetweek.com/e-business/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=19200171 > > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:34 PM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot > > > Most Windows programs support PNG (Adobe Photoshop, Microsoft Photo Editor, > Internet Explorer, Irfanview, etc). It just hasn't made it to the industry > standard realm the same way as other formats have. (Magazines asking for > JPG files instead of PNGs for screenshots, for example). > > I think you'd be hard pressed to find a current graphics file viewer that > doesn't support it. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:28 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot > > Brett: > > Would it be a problem if you wanted to send a file to someone? Is PNG > format supported by Windows or any of the popular viewers? > > Rocky > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com> > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:42 AM > Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot > > > > By far, the absolute best format for screenshots is PNG. Near-infinite > > color range (handles 32-bit palettes with ease), lossless compression, and > > tiny file size. > > > > Unfortunately, it is open-source based so it hasn't made it to the > > mainstream like other more popular formats (GIF, JPG). > > > > I wrote a global error handler that automatically grabs a full screen shot > > of the users' workstation upon app failure and stores it as a PNG on the > > network. Files range between 8KB and 25KB! > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] > > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:23 AM > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot > > > > You should make this into an article. > > > > Thanks to everyone who helped. I eventually used Irfanview which looks > like > > a very complete program. Just got a note from the publisher - the jpg is > > fine. Of course, in the magazine it's going to be probably no bigger than > > 2" x 2" > > > > Regards, > > > > Rocky Smolin > > Beach Access Software > > http://www.e-z-mrp.com > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net> > > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:18 PM > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot > > > > > > > ...don't use any program that initially captures your screen as a jpeg > > ...I > > > won't go into the details here but when you save an image as a jpeg you > > are > > > using a lossy algorithm that throws away portions of the graphic ...its > > the > > > nature of the beast ...in order to give them the high quality jpeg they > > > need, start with a decent graphics program that lets you capture the > image > > > in a high quality, uncompressed format to begin with ...Photoshop and > > > paintshoppro are the mainstream programs ...I personally use > paintshoppro > > > (www.jasc.com) ...set your screen resolution to the highest resolution > > your > > > graphics card can support and make sure your image capture area is clean > > and > > > clear at that resolution ...capture the image and save it into un > > > uncompressed format, preferably the native format of your graphics > program > > > ...in paintshoppro that would give you an image with a .pspimage file > tag > > > ...using that image you can do all sorts of image enhancements to make > > your > > > saved image look better ...then resize it to 300dpi ...if you started at > a > > > much lower screen resolution you might wind up with too small an image > at > > > this point ...once the image is sized/cropped/enhanced just as you'd > like > > to > > > see it, use your graphics program's feature that optimizes it and saves > it > > > as a jpeg ...use zero compression (even though the jpeg will still have > > some > > > inherent image quality loss) and make sure that you use the comparison > > > feature to ensure minimal visible loss of image quality in the resulting > > > file. > > > > > > ...now you have a decent sized jpeg at the desired dpi that is the best > > that > > > you can present ...hth :) > > > > > > William Hindman > > > "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your code is > > > a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William Silverstein > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com> > > > To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:30 PM > > > Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot > > > > > > > > > Dear List: > > > > > > A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like it > to > > be > > > 300dpi. > > > > > > What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg? > > > > > > MTIA, > > > > > > Rocky Smolin > > > Beach Access Software > > > http://www.e-z-mrp.com > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------------------ > > The information in this email may contain confidential information that > > is legally privileged. The information is only for the use of the intended > > recipient(s) named above. 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