[AccessD] RE: jpg Screen shot

Brett Barabash BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com
Mon Apr 26 13:12:48 CDT 2004


Huh?!  I was talking about screenshots, not website buttons.
As I mentioned earlier, IMHO, 20-40 KB is tiny for a screenshot, considering
it displays 100% of the original quality.  I have yet to find another file
format that can top this.

Nevertheless, let's do a little test here.  Using Microsoft PhotoDraw 2000
(tried it with MS Photo Editor as well with reasonably similar results):

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Source: 66x109 pixel 24-bit photo bmp file (a poor choice for PNG
compression)
Original BMP: 21,854 bytes
PNG (24-bit color): 10,128 bytes
PNG (8-bit 256 color): 3,052 bytes
GIF (8-bit 256 color): 3,118 bytes
(both the 8 bit PNG and the 8 bit GIF looked awful i.e. loss of photo
detail/color)
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Source: 61x41 pixel 16 color toolbar button (a perfect choice for PNG
compression)
Original BMP: 9,438 bytes
PNG (24-bit color): 391 bytes
PNG (8-bit 256 color): 1,084 bytes
GIF (8-bit 256 color): 1,129 bytes
(results were identical.  In this case, the 24-bit pallette netted a smaller
file size, since there were only 4 distinct colors in the photo.  The 256
color pallette wasted the additional overhead).
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Keep the following in mind:
- Photos are poor candidates for PNG/zlib compression.  PNG works best for
files with large blocks of the same color (e.g. screenshots).
- All programs are not created equally.  Despite LIBPNG being offered to
software vendors and the general public with a free no strings attached
commercial license, there are several apps that do a half-assed job of
handling PNG files *cough IE*.

What program are you using to convert to PNG?


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert L. Stewart [mailto:rl_stewart at highstream.net]
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 12:28 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Cc: BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com
Subject: Re: jpg Screen shot


Tiny file size my foot!!!!  I had to convert all my PNG (Fireworks) files 
to GIF to get speed loading them as graphic buttons for a web site. 94k 
compared to 6k.

PNG was not a viable choice.

At 12:00 PM 4/26/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:42 AM
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
> > By far, the absolute best format for screenshots is PNG.  Near-infinite
> > color range (handles 32-bit palettes with ease), lossless compression,
and
> > tiny file size.
> >



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