William Hindman
dejpolsys at hotmail.com
Thu Dec 9 20:54:26 CST 2004
..there is a difference between a "restore" disk and an OEM CD copy of the installed software, what Dell always gives you ...a true "restore" disk is mapped to a HD directory structure and almost certainly would not work if that environment isn't present ...Compaq used to be guilty of that but I've not used them in years now. William Hindman ----- Original Message ----- From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 8:42 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good laptop cheap > OMG, back from the dead. Where the HELL have you been? > > I am sure various manufacturers have various deals with Microsoft. What I > do know is that I have run into cases where I tried to install a "restore" > disk on a computer other than the intended target and the software refused > to install. > > John W. Colby > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: > http://folding.stanford.edu/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman > Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 8:19 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Good laptop cheap > > > "If you get a version installed on a laptop, it comes in that laptop's > install / restore disk which won't install on any other machine." JC > > ..while I agree with most of your post JC, that part simply isn't so, at > least for Dells ...both the OS and the Office suite will install on any > system capable of running them ...done it way too many times ...what you > have to watch for with Dell and Office is that they offer an MS Office > "Basic" version preinstalled which looks like a good deal until you see > its > missing key pieces. > > William Hindman > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 9:14 AM > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good laptop cheap > > >> Alan, >> >> You are definitely too demanding. Look at the prices for notebooks. >> Sure you can get a DELL, you can get it with Office installed. But >> you pay a LOT for the privilege. I already own office, I purchased it >> separately. I own >> it and I can move it from system to system as I please. If you get a >> version installed on a laptop, it comes in that laptop's install / >> restore >> disk which won't install on any other machine. That's just plain silly. >> >> Buy a good laptop, get the best price possible. Buy Office, get the >> best price possible. >> >> Because you refused to buy a laptop without Office installed you >> missed >> out >> on the best price for a laptop of that value I have EVER seen. So go >> ahead, >> drop an extra 350 dollars and get less of a laptop with Office on it from >> Dell. >> >> Not me! >> >> In fact I became a Microsoft "partner" and bought the action pack for >> $300. >> I get TEN LICENSES for Office, Windows XP, SQL Server 2000 and a TON of >> other stuff. Why in the world would I pay for a laptop with that stuff >> installed? >> >> John W. Colby >> www.ColbyConsulting.com >> >> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: >> http://folding.stanford.edu/ >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lawhon, >> Alan C Contractor/Morgan Research >> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 3:45 PM >> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good laptop cheap >> >> >> Bob: >> >> You ask a good question ... I may be "too demanding" or whatever, >> but, at >> a >> minimum, I expect a computer to come with the current version of >> Windows - >> and a decent version of Microsoft Office - irrespective of "how good" the >> price may be. (I read an article several months ago on /. to the effect >> that mass market PC sellers like Dell, Gateway, Toshiba and eMachines pay >> Microsoft something like $49.00 for each copy of Windows; so the software >> IS >> NOT a major component of system cost.) I figure that bundled "home >> editions" of Windows and Office [together] probably cost the retail >> seller >> somewhere around $125.00. >> >> I went down to Best Buy last Friday to check out the $750.00 (after >> rebates) eMachines model M5405 notebook computer that John Colby had >> tipped >> us about. Once I discovered that the M5405 DID NOT have Microsoft Office >> installed, (it had some puny collection of utilities that it called >> "Microsoft Works"), I said "Sayonara" on that deal and left the store. >> >> Alan C. Lawhon >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 2:03 PM >> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good laptop cheap >> >> >> curious, did either of these come with actual disks for windows and >> such. seems there is a trend towards not including such... >> >> sorry if too OT, >> >> >> bob heygood >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mark Breen >> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 10:38 AM >> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Good laptop cheap >> >> >> Don't do it John, >> >> I never look at PC specs after I have purchased a PC, because no >> matter what, you will see a better deal. >> >> I hope that you enjoy the new machine, >> >> Mark >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 17:38:59 -0500, John W. Colby >> <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote: >>> For all those who were not able to take advantage of the Emachines >>> laptop (or didn't trust the brand) >>> >>> >> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1093468419744&type=product& >> skuId= >>> 6851267&tab=6 >>> >>> A nice Toshiba for $650 after rebates. Not as much machine as the >> Emachines >>> but still a good deal. >>> >>> John W. 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