Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
bchacc at san.rr.com
Mon Jan 5 17:00:16 CST 2004
Erwin: I am really in your debt for that. Thanks. Rocky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erwin Craps - IT Helps" <Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 9:06 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Mac address > I got a whole module for softwarelicense checking, including activation > from distance (by phone in case of troubles) with a chalenge/response > key... > > I not sure If I compleetly finished it but but you need is certanly in > there. > > I export the necesary stuff and mail you directly. > > Erwin > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin > - Beach Access Software > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 5:48 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Mac address > > Erwin: > > I'm struggling with the copy protection thing myself on a product I'm > getting ready to launch soon. I think the HD SN would be a good place > to start. I'm using a date bomb now and need to add code to move the > date bomb. > But putting the HD SN in the loop would add an extra layer of > protection. > Did you say you have code to retrieve the HD SN? Would it be possible > to get it from you off line at bchacc at san.rr.com? > > Thanks and regards, > > Rocky Smolin > Beach Access Software > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Erwin Craps - IT Helps" <Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 12:45 PM > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Mac address > > > > This 0.0.0.0 could result from having multiple nic's in your pc. > > If you have a PPP connector you would receive a MAC address from that > > to, but when not connected this would be 0 > > I'm not compleetly sure of this but a PPP dial adapter is a nic to. > > And it could be wrongly set to the first nic in the binding. > > > > What I wanna say is that you would need to itterate trough the list of > > all nic's and verify which mac address you want to use. > > > > 2 or 3 nic's per pc are not uncommon. > > For example . > > 1x NIC > > 1x PPP modem dial > > 1x PPPoE ADSL modem > > > > If you wanna verify just type ipconfig /ALL in a dos window in > NT/2K/XP, > > the result is a complete list of all adapters AND MAC address. > > Type winipcfg in W9X, you get a form where you can chose from the > > multiple nic's and see there MAC address. > > > > Erwin > > > > > > > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > > Van: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Jim Dettman > > Verzonden: zondag 4 januari 2004 18:57 > > Aan: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > Onderwerp: RE: [AccessD] Mac address > > > > I would agree. A MAC address is usually a lot more stable then a HD > > serial number. I wasn't aware though that a spoof utility was out > > there. > > > > Looks like the code will need to dig a little deeper and get the > actual > > hardware address. > > > > BTW I'm not sure why that code I sent you returned 0.0.0.0. did the > > same thing here on Win98SE. It's never failed before, but then it's > > been a few years since I used it. I looked it over real quick and I > see > > it's making a NetBIOS call, which the success of might be dependant on > > the protocols loaded. > > > > Jim Dettman > > President, > > Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc. > > (315) 699-3443 > > jimdettman at earthlink.net > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. > Colby > > Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 11:53 AM > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Mac address > > > > > > And how does that make the disk sn better. That DOES change with > every > > format (and every new HD). When was the last time YOU changed your > MAC > > address? As form myself, I've NEVER done so. When was the last YOU > > formatted (or replaced) your hard disk? As for myself, at LEAST half > > dozen times over 4 systems just in the last 4 or 5 years. > > > > Hmmm.... Never or 1/2 dozen times... > > > > John W. Colby > > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Haslett, > > Andrew > > Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 9:02 AM > > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Mac address > > > > > > Hard Disk SN is far better than using the MAC address. Jees, some > BIOS > > these days even allow you to change your MAC address yourself. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] > > Sent: Sunday, 4 January 2004 2:19 PM > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Mac address > > > > LOL. I learned a long time ago not to sweat the small stuff. If > there > > are hackers figuring out how to hack Microsoft's $100 million copy > > protection, I am not going to survive a determined attempt to get > around > > my stuff. > > > > On the other hand, I assume you lock your front door. And I assume > > there is glass in the door that anyone who wants in could just smash > to > > reach in and unlock your door. So why do you bother? Because the > lock > > keeps 99% of the people out of your house. > > > > 99% is good enough for me. I will not even bat an eyelash nor give a > > second thought to the other 1%. > > > > 99% of the effort COULD be spent stopping (or failing to stop) that > last > > 1%. > > > > John W. Colby > > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stuart > > McLachlan > > Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:00 PM > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Mac address > > > > > > Take a look at http://www.klcconsulting.net/smac/ > > for a way to defeat this copy protection scheme. > > > > (Follow the link to "the research of Kyle Lai" for a lot of good info > on > > MAC > > addresses) > > > > > > On 3 Jan 2004 at 13:34, John W. Colby wrote: > > > > > Yea, but you have to start somewhere. More and more NICs are > embedded > > right > > > in the motherboards so this is getting less and less likely. > > > > > > John W. Colby > > > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav > Brock > > > Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 12:53 PM > > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Mac address > > > > > > > > > Hi John > > > > > > Hmm ... so the user changes his/hers NIC and is hosed ..? > > > > > > /gustav > > > > > > > > > > Date: 2004-01-03 18:14 > > > > > > > Well... I'm looking at a machine specific piece for copy > protection. > > The > > > > work station name might be specific to a network, but is created > by > > > > the software (or user doing the install) so if the machine went > down > > > > > > (as > > many > > > of > > > > mine have over the last few years) if the user didn't select the > > > > same > > name > > > > then the key wouldn't work. > > > > > > > -- > > Lexacorp Ltd > > http://www.lexacorp.com.pg > > Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System > Support. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ ******************** This email and any files > > transmitted with it are confidential and may contain information > > protected by law from disclosure. > > If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender > > immediately and delete this email from your system. > > No warranty is given that this email or files, if attached to this > > email, are free from computer viruses or other defects. 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