[AccessD] QuickBooks Project... Anyone game?

Jim Lawrence (AccessD) accessd at shaw.ca
Fri Jun 11 14:47:56 CDT 2004


Hi Mark:

That set of comments are very true and I fully agree with your assessment.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MarkH
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 10:33 AM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] QuickBooks Project... Anyone game?


Sorry... Didn't mean to be so negative, I just got left with a very bad
taste in my mouth when I came to renew the payroll module and found the
QB made it impossible to upgrade without buying the application again
(only a year after I bought it).  All I wanted was updated tax tables
and from what they told me that would not be possible without upgrading
the application at a cost of more than double the original price. That
sort of behaviour as far as I'm concerned is out of order and
unnecessary, tax tables are just data and it seems they have no loyalty
to existing customers. To make it imposible to update the tax tables
without updating the application is, in my oppinion, pure greed, totally
unnecessary and as bad, if not worse than some of the tactics emplyed by
microsoft themselves.

Sorry again for being so negative and drifting OT... Didn't mean to rant
:@) 

Good luck

Mark

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert Gracie
Sent: 11 June 2004 00:56
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] QuickBooks Project... Anyone game?


Mark,
 I was not suggesting that QB is not flawed, I personally think it is
VERY flawed in many ways, but that is irrelevant as my users are wanting
my programs to interact with it. It is thus my job to make that happen,
not to degrade their choice in their accounting package. I had
anticipated that others would be getting the same response from their
clients, I was obviously wrong.

 QB's greatest market share is indeed in small business, but the last
time I checked small business (As defined by the SBA is 500 or less
employees) accounts for 99.7 percent of all employers, Employ half of
all private sector employees, Pays 44.3 percent of total U.S. private
payroll...etc.. In other words it's HUGE...

 It's so huge that MS made several attempts to take a portion of
Intuit's market share, then they tried to outright by Intuit, and I
understand they are at it again. Why, because MS understands the huge
market share Intuit holds, and desperately wants part of it.

Robert Gracie
www.servicexp.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MarkH
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 9:54 AM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] QuickBooks Project... Anyone game?


The data structure (I am told by a very good accountant I know) is
flawed in several ways. The application itself compensates (sometimes
badly). QB is a good solution for small businesses etc. but I wouldn't
(personally) want to have to work with its data. Accounting data
structures are very straight forward and I don't understand why there
are so many discrepancies in such a 'well' developed package. For
example, several of the standard reports don't cross balance due to the
fact they (sometimes) ignore journal entries. Saying that though, I have
never been impressed by an accounts package so maybe I'm just too
cynical :O)

85% of what by the way? The only people I know who use it are small
business and they, generally, are happy with it as it is and wouldn't
want to shell out the extra cash to have add-ons developed...

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert Gracie
Sent: 10 June 2004 01:22
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] QuickBooks Project... Anyone game?


Wow
 Intuit has a greater then 85% market share. I'm not sure about you
guys, but my clients are screaming for a strong solution that interacts
with QuickBooks in my products.


Robert Gracie
www.servicexp.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 10:18 PM
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Mark, I don't want to continue this OT too much but I have to agree -
even though I use it. You can't even have a customer be a vendor that
you also purchase from! Drives me nuts!

JB

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MarkH
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 7:46 PM
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Side tracking a little... We use QB for the company accounts, the lady
who does my books has torn it to pieces. She has found numerous flaws in
the program, in particular in relation to journal postings and VAT,
can't remember what exactly (as I have a very short attention span) but
don't be surprised if things don't always balance... I looked at
developing a few tools (data extracts and analysis) for it but didn't
bother starting once I realised Quickbooks couldn't even do a decent job
of it themselves...

Sorry to be negative but I found it to be a very disappointing piece of
software, particularly in respect to data extracts, windows integration
and simple accounting practices...

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
- Beach Access Software
Sent: 08 June 2004 23:54
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] QuickBooks Project... Anyone game?


Robert:

I looked at the QuickBooks SDK and gave up.  Used the two-step - export
from my app to their funky file format and import into QuickBooks.  You
can have the code if it helps.  But I think you're looking for the
seamless solution.

Rocky

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From: "Robert Gracie" <Subscriptions at servicexp.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 2:45 PM
Subject: [AccessD] QuickBooks Project... Anyone game?


> Ok,
>  The first question is.. Does anyone here currently (or have plans in 
> the
> future) to programmatically interact with QuickBooks 2003 or greater,
either
> on a data or "front end" (Version 2004)level?
>
>  The second question, would anyone here be interested in grouping our 
> efforts together to come up with a "wrapped" solution, such has been 
> done with the BEU?
>
>  I'm looking at a Class based solution that can handle all the major 
> functions a typical company would need to interact with QB.
>
>  What Say You?
>
>
> Robert Gracie
> www.servicexp.com
>
>
>
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