[AccessD] Re: [Private] Framework Discussion - Dependent Obje cts

DWUTKA at marlow.com DWUTKA at marlow.com
Tue Mar 16 14:09:50 CST 2004


'The days of Drew and JC'?  LOL

I'm in the same situation as you. I find that building a 'framework' isn't
worth the effort, because I have to develop very diverse GUI's.  It's not a
matter of re-using features, it's a matter of building specific features to
handle the task at hand.

At my full time job, however, I have found that one of the best practices I
can stick too, is to develop applications as 'stand-alone' objects, yet
leave room for interaction.  So if I develop a library application for our
Drafting department, and later I develop a modeling package for the
engineers, if I need access to the drafting library, I can just 'reference'
the drafting department's .dll's.  Makes life a lot easier.  To me, that's
what I call a framework.  It's not a generic thing from a functionality
standpoint, but more of a generic thing from a usability standpoint.

Make sense?

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 9:00 AM
To: Jim Dettman
Cc: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Re: [Private] Framework Discussion - Dependent
Objects


Hi Jim

Ha ha, hit by the Colby flames! Welcome to the club!

I read it too and wondered - but I guess that's the way he is and that
it doesn't mean so much. Remember the days of Drew and JC? Eventually
they cooled down. And internationalization?

He just loves his framework as a child, so I've chosen to keep my mouth
shut. Also, and seriously, I find my forms so diverse and often highly
specialized as I can't see a framework fit in and certainly not worth
spending the time to build it. If inheritance was possible, I might
reconsider, but I guess that won't ever happen.

/gustav


>   I'm not telling you do to anything.  I was trying to add to the
> discussion, pointing out that performance is based on design decisions
that
> are made in the framework.  You are taking an OOP approach and the same
> fundamentals apply no matter which language your dealing with.

>   I don't understand why your taking this so personally.  I never said
that
> what you were doing was not worth it.  I was discussing frameworks in
> general.  This has nothing to do with me leaving Access for VFP, which I
> have not (I still use both tools on a regular basis).  I would love to see
> someone do a commercial framework for Access.  But after 10 years of
> existence, one has to ask themselves why there are not a truck load of
them
> already.

>   You asked for input about the design of frameworks and I've brought up a
> few issues (performance and distribution of new versions).  If you don't
> want to address them and explore these areas then fine. But if that's the
> case, then don't ask for the input in the first place.

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