[AccessD] Lookup Fields in Table Design

DWUTKA at marlow.com DWUTKA at marlow.com
Fri Mar 26 14:46:04 CST 2004


Hit below the belt.  Charlotte, back to your corner! LOL

Actually, I think I'd rather be known as the Crusador of the Self Taughts.
I like to challenge the 'bad practice' stuff a lot, because I have found
that a lot (certainly not all) is based solely on developer limitations, not
actually system limitations.  If you look at the sides I have been on, I am
rarely saying people MUST do something, but instead, they CAN do something,
if they choose to.  Like the bound/unbound debate.  I was simply pointing
out that there is nothing wrong with an unbound form.  There are times where
it is easier to use an unbound form.  There are also times where it is
easier to use a bound form.  But saying that unbound forms are bad practice,
or a waste of time, is not right (it doesn't apply to bound forms either).  

Also, like the original thread, Frameworks are handy.  They aren't good for
every situation, but they certainly can be useful in other situations.  JC
has done a superb job of bring light to the subject, and has written
excellent code examples.  I must admit I don't prefix my Class objects, and
variables the same way, but if JC gave me code, and said it will do what
it's supposed to, I would have absolute faith that it would.  If JC needed
me to write code for him, and said, 'hey, use my naming convention, and work
within my framework', I would have no problem doing so.  Then again, if JC
said 'Drew, develop this, but don't use API's because their vauge and
mysterious, and don't use indexing, because it'll bloat the database and
it's just a lazy way for developers to speed up their applications, instead,
roll your own indexing', I'd look at him like he was nuts! (Not picking on
ya JC....LOL)

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 1:26 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Lookup Fields in Table Design


>>most generally the "bully" of the group's mentality

Are you talking about Drew?? <evilgrin>

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net] 
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 10:50 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Lookup Fields in Table Design


Charlotte,
You'll find that most people are more strongly opinionated than I am (on
many issues). While I may jest about starting flame wars, I really don't
enjoy seeing people argue. However, I do enjoy seeing people debate an
issue. Especially a group with as intelligent and capable people as we
have here. There are many lists where one gets chastised for not
conforming to the group mentality (most generally the "bully" of the
group's mentality)- I don't stick around those lists very long - not
because I can't take getting chastised but because there is really not
much one can learn from people who think they have all of the answers
for all eternity! And there is certainly little opportunity for me to
"help" anyone in that situation. I do try to give back what I can on any
list I am on (including directing people to this list).

I question the status quo.
I listen to all sides of an issue (and there are usually more than two
sides). I make a decision. I recommend things based on informed
decisions. I accept that not everyone is going to take my
recommendations. I revisit my decisions on a regular basis to see if
there are compelling reasons to change them.

I believe this is why I am a very good "consultant".

John
PS: We'll just leave my capabilities as a "programmer" out of it!
;o)


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 12:19 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Lookup Fields in Table Design


John,

You are NOT getting into the spirit of this discussion.  Reasonableness
has no place here! <VBG>

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 10:00 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Lookup Fields in Table Design


Here's a stretch but...
For people that like to use the added form designing capabilites of the
lookup property, once the table design and realtionships are complete
you could set the desired lookup properties. Design all of the forms for
the application. When the application design is complete you could run
code that iterates the table collection and eliminates all lookup
properties in the table design. This in essence would eliminate the
corruption and performance issues.

Eh?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Lookup Fields in Table Design


There is also the issue of TableID limits, which I believe include all
the tables involved as lookups.

Charlotte Foust


--
_______________________________________________
AccessD mailing list
AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
--
_______________________________________________
AccessD mailing list
AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com


-- 
_______________________________________________
AccessD mailing list
AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
-- 
_______________________________________________
AccessD mailing list
AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com



More information about the AccessD mailing list