DWUTKA at marlow.com
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Wed Mar 31 14:55:27 CST 2004
As long as it's not an executable. Rocky, just send me an email, no attachment. Also, what is the rejection saying? Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 2:46 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: A survey from somebody not as well-connected as JC Drew: Got rejected again. Is it the attachment? Rocky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: A survey from somebody not as well-connected as JC > Yeah. But the address I got from the email was uppercase DWUTKA as you can > see in the FROM line below and in your email it's lower case. Shouldn't > make a difference but I just re-sent it to the lower case address. Stand > by... > > Rocky > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <DWUTKA at marlow.com> > To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 9:00 AM > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: A survey from somebody not as well-connected as > JC > > > > Did you send it to dwutka at marlow.com ? I should be able to handle 1.5 > megs > > (have 10 megs left in my mailbox) > > > > Drew > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin - > > Beach Access Software > > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:53 AM > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: A survey from somebody not as well-connected > > as JC > > > > > > Drew: > > > > Just tried to send you The Sleep Doctor and got rejected. Is there a > better > > address? The attachment is <1.5MB > > > > Rocky Smolin > > Beach Access Software > > http://www.e-z-mrp.com > > > > > > > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > > <DWUTKA at marlow.com> > > (reason: 554 <bchacc at san.rr.com>: Sender address rejected: Access > > denied) > > > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > > ... while talking to main2.marlow.com.: > > >>> DATA > > <<< 554 <bchacc at san.rr.com>: Sender address rejected: Access denied > > 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable > > <<< 554 Error: no valid recipients > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <DWUTKA at marlow.com> > > To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 8:22 AM > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: A survey from somebody not as well-connected as > > JC > > > > > > > LOL. Rocky, Life has been nothing short of hectic for the last few > > months. > > > I KNOW you sent me a test to run, but quite frankly, I know I've rebuilt > > my > > > machine since then, and can't find it. > > > > > > Any way you'll give me another chance to be a beta tester? > > > > > > By the way, and I know this is off topic, but I have an odd 'symptom' I > > > discovered. I've noticed that when I sleep with my CPAP machine, I > don't > > > remember my dreams when I wake up. However, when I don't sleep with it, > > > then I can vividly remember my dreams for as long as I want (I can think > > > about them the whole day if I want too). > > > > > > Drew > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin - > > > Beach Access Software > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 12:07 AM > > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: A survey from somebody not as well-connected > > > as JC > > > > > > > > > John: > > > > > > Do you snore? Loudly? Are you very tired upon waking up in the > morning? > > > Is you neck circumference over 16 inches? Might you fall asleep while > > > watching TV? Does your wife say you stop breathing or gasp for air > while > > > you sleep? Is you body mass index over 26? > > > > > > If you answered yes to any of the above questions you need to be a Sleep > > > Doctor beta tester. Let The Sleep Doctor help. Simply reply to > > > bchacc at san.rr.com and say 'I wanna be a beta tester!'. Operators are > > > standing by... > > > > > > Rocky Smolin > > > Beach Access Software > > > http://www.e-z-mrp.com > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "John Bartow" <john at winhaven.net> > > > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > > > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 8:55 PM > > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: A survey from somebody not as well-connected > as > > > JC > > > > > > > > > > Good thing my wife doesn't read this or she'd order a copy to analyze > me > > > > right now :o) > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky > Smolin - > > > > Beach Access Software > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:39 PM > > > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: A survey from somebody not as > well-connected > > > > as JC > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure. I estimate it will take to the end of the year before I see any > > > real > > > > results. > > > > > > > > I've got another product cooking as well - analyzes sleep disorders. > > Been > > > > working on it with an expert in the field for 4-5 years (not > > continuously, > > > > of course). Might be able to launch it this year. > > > > > > > > Do you want to be a beta tester? > > > > > > > > Rocky > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Kath Pelletti" <SDSSoftware at optusnet.com.au> > > > > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > > > > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 8:23 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: A survey from somebody not as > well-connected > > as > > > > JC > > > > > > > > > > > > Well I wish you the very best of luck...can you let us know how the > > sales > > > > go? > > > > > > > > Kath > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software > > > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 9:42 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: A survey from somebody not as > > well-connected > > > as > > > > JC > > > > > > > > > > > > Kath: > > > > > > > > In the 'old' days when I was flogging this package in DOS, I thought > > > that > > > > some of them would be sold by word of mouth, people seeing it, or > the > > > > reports that got passed around (which all had my company name in the > > > > footer). So I always wanted everyone to have the latest version. > So > > I > > > > didn't charge for it. It was in my self-interest to have them use > the > > > > most > > > > recent release. And I'm still going to keep to that policy for this > > new > > > > version. > > > > > > > > If I add a module, like Order Entry, everybody will get it at no > cost. > > > > With > > > > distribution by web, there really is no overhead cost to me to > > > distribute > > > > it. And good product sells more product. > > > > > > > > I promote the product support as a 'free phone in consulting service > > on > > > > any > > > > question related to the software OR manufacturing systems' for the > > first > > > > year, and $300 a year after that (about 10% of the purchase price). > > > > > > > > In the past I had a lot of conversations with people about > > manufacturing > > > > issues - how to structure a bill of materials, how to make up a part > > > > numbering scheme, how to solve a particular work order problem, > etc - > > > and > > > > very few questions about how to actually run the software. This > added > > a > > > > LOT > > > > of value to the product and didn't really take very much time. > > > > > > > > The key is to make a product which is so user stupid that anybody > who > > > can > > > > read and count to 20 can run it. Then you don't get the same > question > > > 20 > > > > times a day, like 'how do I run a costed inventory report?'. > > > > > > > > If a user doesn't want to pay the yearly maintenance then they don't > > get > > > > the > > > > phone support. I could tell them they don't get the new releases as > > > well > > > > but that works against me salewise. Many people didn't pay for the > > > > support > > > > after the first couple of years because they never called me for > > > anything. > > > > > > > > The other key, of course, it goes without saying, is to make the > > product > > > > so > > > > solid that it doesn't generate bugs and errors. Then you don't get > > any > > > > support calls. > > > > > > > > BTW - I'm not a marketer or salesy type person, either. But if you > > have > > > > something you believe in it's not really selling. And I really > > believe > > > in > > > > this product (why not, I invented it?). I just present the product > > and > > > if > > > > they like it fine. They buy it. If not, it's like pushing on a > > string. > > > > > > > > I always wanted people to feel like they got more than they expected > > and > > > > when you sell hard you overhype, raise expectations, and end up with > > > > customers who expect more than you have to give. > > > > > > > > When people buy E-Z-MRP they feel like they just bought a dollar for > > > fifty > > > > cents. That makes selling a lot easier, too. > > > > > > > > I suppose that's why I'm successful but not rich. :) > > > > > > > > HTH > > > > > > > > Rocky Smolin > > > > Beach Access Software > > > > http://www.e-z-mrp.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Kath Pelletti" <SDSSoftware at optusnet.com.au> > > > > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > > > > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 2:59 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: A survey from somebody not as > > well-connected > > > as > > > > JC > > > > > > > > > > > > Rocky - out of interest - what support arrangements / fees are you > > > > offering? > > > > > > > > Kath > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software > > > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 8:48 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: A survey from somebody not as > > > well-connected > > > > as > > > > JC > > > > > > > > > > > > Andy: > > > > > > > > Don't envy me. They jury's still out. I've got a bit of a buffer > so > > > we > > > > won't miss any meals, but that can't go on forever. I've had two > > good > > > > products and several bad ones. At least this time I'm starting in > > an > > > > economy that's on the upswing. > > > > > > > > But I've always been a bootstrap kind of guy - we're doing a > mailing > > > in > > > > San > > > > Diego county this month. Hopefully snag two or three systems. > Then > > > use > > > > that money to mail again in another county. Build it up slowly. > > > > Instead > > > > of > > > > mortgaging the house. > > > > > > > > I'm still doing some fee-for-service as well. So that keeps some > of > > > the > > > > lights on. > > > > > > > > It's a high wire act for sure. But when it does work, it's a > thing > > of > > > > beauty. > > > > > > > > Rocky > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Andy > > Lacey > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 1:18 PM > > > > > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > > > > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: A survey from somebody not as > > > > well-connected > > > > > as JC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I envy Rocky (sort of) but won't be trying to emulate him. Been > > > there, > > > > tried > > > > > that, and failed. Problem with the product thing is that you > have > > to > > > > > metamorphose from developer into marketer, and I couldn't. Not > my > > > > thing > > > > at > > > > > all. Plus IME it involves sinking money into advertising, > mailing, > > > > > brochures, websites nd so on. You have to be prepared to risk > big > > > > outlay > > > > > against no guarantee of return. Done that 2 or 3 times to great > > cost > > > > and > > > > no > > > > > great return. Won't be doing it again. > > > > > > > > > > -- Andy Lacey > > > > > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > > > > > > Steven W. Erbach > > > > > > Sent: 30 March 2004 04:16 > > > > > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > > > > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: A survey from somebody not as > > > > > > well-connected as JC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > William, > > > > > > > > > > > > >> ...don't take this the wrong way << > > > > > > > > > > > > I won't. I appreciate your point of view. I have gotten > > > > > > caught up in the tools as if owning the right brand of socket > > > > > > wrench will guarantee me a living. > > > > > > > > > > > > But I hear you on the client-centered approach. I've worked > > > > > > on lots of things that were outside of my skill-set comfort > > zone. > > > > > > > > > > > > I talked with a friend recently about my business and he > > > > > > asked if there was anything I specialized in. I told him no; > > > > > > my business is producing custom solutions to solve customer > > > > > > problems. He recommended a product-centered approach, like > > > > > > what Rocky is aiming for. I have a long-term care facility > > > > > > marketing and donations program I wrote that might fill the > > > > > > bill. We'll see. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> ...but I'm just me and don't have any intention of ever > > > > > > working hard > > > > > > >> again << > > > > > > > > > > > > Not really an option for me as we're having some tough times > > > > > > financially. I can dig the varietal nature of your work, > > > > > > though. Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve Erbach > > > > > > Scientific Marketing > > > > > > Neenah, WI > > > > > > > > > > > > "You must be an intellectual. 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