William Hindman
wdhindman at bellsouth.net
Sat May 15 19:56:48 CDT 2004
...you get a lot of coal in your Christmas stocking don't you? :) ...you're of course right ...a moderator's job is never appreciated until you join an unmoderated one ...thanks :) William Hindman "The world's becoming a museum of socialist failures." John Dos Passos ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Lacey" <andy at minstersystems.co.uk> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 6:35 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Going to Raid - Win2K > No chance of this going to the Tech list I don't suppose. > > -- Andy Lacey > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JMoss > > Sent: 15 May 2004 07:09 > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Going to Raid - Win2K > > > > > > I was looking around in diskmanagement on 2000 pro and it > > appears to have RAID 1 configurability. In NT4 you had to > > copy files from server to get the RAID 1 configurability in > > NT 4 Workstation. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of JMoss > > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 12:40 AM > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Going to Raid - Win2K > > > > > > With the Promise RAID, you get two cables. I think that you > > can put both drives on one cable but I also think that the > > controller has a channel per connector, which is almost as > > good as having two controllers for duplexing in case a > > controller flakes. > > > > I can't lay my hands on a manual right now so I cant be sure > > about the two drives on a cable, but like I said I think > > that you gain a channel by using both connectors, and thats > > just like adding a pair of suspenders along with a belt to > > insure that your pants stay up. > > > > This is definitely the way to go for anyone that just > > absolutely can't afford to lose their data, and a lot of > > motherboards are shipping with RAID controllers on board. I > > read somewhere, maybe on winternals.com that you can use the > > software RAID functionality of Win 2000 Server on 2000 Pro. > > > > J > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of > > John W. Colby > > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 12:22 AM > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Going to Raid - Win2K > > > > > > This brings up another question, do you place both mirror > > drives on the same IDE cable? If you can choose, is there > > any advantage to giving each drive it's own IDE cable > > (simultaneous operations and the like)?. > > > > John W. Colby > > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of JMoss > > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 1:01 AM > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Going to Raid - Win2K > > > > > > John, > > > > If the Highpoint is anything like the Promise RAID > > controller, all that you have to do is load the drivers with > > the first drive still connected to the original controller, > > and then reboot. At the reboot, power down the system move > > the controller cable to the RAID controller and plug the new > > drive in also. Just make sure you know which connector is > > which. When the system reboots, the RAID utility runs and > > allows you to build the mirror. One thing, make sure that the > > RAID is set for Security rather than Performance because > > performance doesn't mirror but stripes. See this link for an > > explanation of RAID 0 striping, and RAID 1 mirroring. > > > > You might want to check out some other vendor than Newegg, > > because they recently starting collecting sales tax, or they > > did in Tennessee. Sales tax and their shipping rates forced > > me to switch back to www.tcwo.com who's shipping in a flat > > $6.95 for up to 150 lbs, plus they don't collect Tennessee tax. > > > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of > > John W. Colby > > Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 11:44 PM > > To: Tech - Database Advisors Inc.; AccessD > > Subject: [AccessD] Going to Raid - Win2K > > > > > > Folks, > > > > About 6 months ago my less than one year old Maxtor 120g hard > > drive bit the dust. I replaced it with an old 40g drive I > > had laying around and a 160g drive. I had intended to just > > replace it with a 160g but quickly discovered that Win2K > > doesn't natively support large hard disks until you get SP3 > > or better installed and manually edit the registry. Thus the > > old 40g to get > > Windows up, then the 160g set up. That 40g drive failed > > this week. In > > both cases my C: drive (partition) was lost. Backups simply > > aren't the end all and be all in a case like this because of > > all the programs and individualized settings for each program > > - the registry etc. > > > > What I have learned from this is that the lost productivity > > was roughly 2-3 days per incident, waaaay more than the delta > > cost of Raid 1. I have decided not to go through that again. > > I am now researching a Raid 1 solution (simple mirror) using > > a pair of Maxtor 120g drives. This gives me 40g for the > > system partition (drive c:) and 80g for my dev stuff, web dev etc. > > > > My current choice for controller (I do have $ limits to face) > > is a Highpoint RocketRaid 133. In order to get back up > > before the weekend I went down to Staples and plunked down > > the $ for a Maxtor 6y120P0 120g 8mb buffer hard disk. My > > intention at this point is to order a matching drive and the > > raid controller from www.Egghead.com and when I get it, set > > up the mirror. I have a couple of questions though for > > anyone who may have experience in this. > > > > 1) I have already partitioned the new drive and installed > > Win2K Pro, Office and other programs. Once I get the > > controller, can I just unplug this disk from my motherboard, > > plug it in to the raid controller, plug the matching drive > > in, and tell something to "set up the mirror"? I.e. the new > > drive gets the exact same partitions (there are three of > > them) created, files written, and I'm up and running mirrored? > > > > 2) If not am I facing a reinstall of everything again? > > > > 3) Is there anything I need to know? I just want it to work > > - I am not a > > (trained) system admin, I am a developer working in a SOHO. > > > > The idea is to get my dev system set up so that all of my > > installed software and development stuff never again die > > because a disk dies. I have found and read a bunch of > > articles on raid in general but can't find any detailed > > information on the PROCESS of setting the thing up, and > > specifically with this controller. I assume the > > documentation with the controller will tell me most of what I > > need to know, but of course.... what can go wrong will. > > > > Any comments or suggestions appreciated. > > > > John W. 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