From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Mon Nov  1 01:10:12 2004
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 23:10:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] CurrentDB Error
In-Reply-To: <009501c4bfbd$9d132be0$fa10a8c0@Albatross>
Message-ID: <20041101071012.91647.qmail@web20423.mail.yahoo.com>

Were you doing some ADO programming with AccessXP and moved the ADO reference above the DAO? I have seen that happen before and caused problems. Just a thought.

Borge Steen Hansen <pcs at azizaz.com> wrote:Hi,
I have a some Access97 database applications that have been working for
years.
They are currently sitting on WinXP with AccessXP installed as well.

Been working on the XP box for over a year!

Recently when making a minor modification and doing a 'Compile and Save' I
get the following message on the first instance of CurrentDb

Compile Error:
Funtion or interface marked as restricted, or the function uses Automation
type not supported in Visual Basic.

I have reference to Microsoft DAO Object Library 3.6
The dao.dll is version 03.60.8618.0

Even if I try to disambiguate the thing, the compile error comes up:

like:

dim db as DAO.Database
set db = CurrentDb

when compiling it will error on the set db = CurrentDb line.

Can anyone help me to shed light on what is going on?


Regards
Borge
Gold Coast, Australia


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Nov  1 00:33:26 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 22:33:26 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] CurrentDB Error
In-Reply-To: <009501c4bfbd$9d132be0$fa10a8c0@Albatross>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIMEKFCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Borge:

I am not saying this is the answer but I have never referred to the current
db using

set db = CurrentDb	try	set db = CurrentDb()

or try the old method: DBEngine(0)(0) for accessing the current db.

Another thing to do would be to check whether there is a reference to
Microsoft Access 11.0 Object library, in addition.

I am not sure whether an old Access97 applications actually works in an XP
environment...It may have to be converted. I have converted applications up
to Access2003 without error with not issues...once converted.

HTH
Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Borge Steen
Hansen
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 6:51 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] CurrentDB Error


Hi,
I have a some Access97 database applications that have been working for
years.
They are currently sitting on WinXP with AccessXP installed as well.

Been working on the XP box for over a year!

Recently when making a minor modification and doing a 'Compile and Save' I
get the following message on the first instance of CurrentDb

Compile Error:
Funtion or interface marked as restricted, or the function uses Automation
type not supported in Visual Basic.

I have reference to Microsoft DAO Object Library 3.6
The dao.dll is version 03.60.8618.0

Even if I try to disambiguate the thing, the compile error comes up:

like:

dim db as DAO.Database
set db = CurrentDb

when compiling it will error on the set db = CurrentDb line.

Can anyone help me to shed light on what is going on?


Regards
Borge
Gold Coast, Australia


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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Mon Nov  1 06:57:10 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 07:57:10 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] CurrentDB Error
In-Reply-To: <009501c4bfbd$9d132be0$fa10a8c0@Albatross>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKIECDKLAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>


  The DAO reference may be broken.  Open a module in design view, click
tools/references.  See if it's listed as MISSING or BROKEN.  If it is, most
likely you'll simply need to re-register it with regsvr32.exe

  I none are listed missing or broken, check any reference that is not
currently checked, close the MDB and Access, re-open and uncheck the
reference you just checked.  Then try a compile.

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Borge Steen
Hansen
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 9:51 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] CurrentDB Error


Hi,
I have a some Access97 database applications that have been working for
years.
They are currently sitting on WinXP with AccessXP installed as well.

Been working on the XP box for over a year!

Recently when making a minor modification and doing a 'Compile and Save' I
get the following message on the first instance of CurrentDb

Compile Error:
Funtion or interface marked as restricted, or the function uses Automation
type not supported in Visual Basic.

I have reference to Microsoft DAO Object Library 3.6
The dao.dll is version 03.60.8618.0

Even if I try to disambiguate the thing, the compile error comes up:

like:

dim db as DAO.Database
set db = CurrentDb

when compiling it will error on the set db = CurrentDb line.

Can anyone help me to shed light on what is going on?


Regards
Borge
Gold Coast, Australia


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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Mon Nov  1 08:24:25 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 06:24:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE
Message-ID: <20041101142425.31611.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi group,
 
I've got a MAJOR problem.
 
I've got an A2K application with a BE and a FE. FE is installed on the local machine and the BE is installed on the server. Using WinNT
Performance has always been soso. Not fast but not very slow either.
 
Now we've migrated everything to A2k2 with WinXP.
 
Performance is terrible times 10!! Opening the FE takes about 20-25 minutes. Opening a linked table takes 9 minutes same goes for tables in the FE itself.
 
However, when I open the FE and if I open a table that is stored in the FE it opens directly, no problem. When I then open a linked table => bang back to 9 minutes per table (linked or not)
 
Is it possible that this somehow has to do with A2k2?? I know in Access 2 (that is two!!) you had to change OPENFILES parameter thingies somewhere. Does Access 2002 also have such a setting that must be tweaked??
 
TIA
 
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From serbach at new.rr.com  Mon Nov  1 08:54:45 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 08:54:45 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE
In-Reply-To: <20041101142425.31611.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20041101142425.31611.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20041101085445.1988690789.serbach@new.rr.com>

Sander,

This sounds like what happens when the BE has moved. And, regarding Windows XP, are you running Service Pack 2?

Do you have a link-checking routine running at the start of your application like Tribble's AutoLinker? I had to modify one of the procedures in that library to avoid the incredible amount of time it would take for a link to be checked that was broken.

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI

"I belong to no organized party. I am a Democrat." - Will Rogers


> ------------Original Message------------
> From: S D <accessd667 at yahoo.com>
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Date: Mon, Nov-1-2004 8:49 AM
> Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE
> 
> Hi group,
>  
> I've got a MAJOR problem.
>  
> I've got an A2K application with a BE and a FE. FE is installed on the 
> local machine and the BE is installed on the server. Using WinNT
> Performance has always been soso. Not fast but not very slow either.
>  
> Now we've migrated everything to A2k2 with WinXP.
>  
> Performance is terrible times 10!! Opening the FE takes about 20-25 
> minutes. Opening a linked table takes 9 minutes same goes for tables in 
> the FE itself.
>  
> However, when I open the FE and if I open a table that is stored in the 
> FE it opens directly, no problem. When I then open a linked table => 
> bang back to 9 minutes per table (linked or not)
>  
> Is it possible that this somehow has to do with A2k2?? I know in Access 
> 2 (that is two!!) you had to change OPENFILES parameter thingies 
> somewhere. Does Access 2002 also have such a setting that must be tweaked??
>  
> TIA
>  
> Sander




From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Mon Nov  1 09:07:13 2004
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 07:07:13 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Access - Advantage - Mediwin
In-Reply-To: <060101c4a7cc$4a5555d0$6401a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <AMEDIDMAFJBGBGHMOEAEGEHOECAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

Michael,
Turns out is was just bad networking. I definitely find that the makers and
distributor of these big software packages can be very tight with allowing
anyone to use their data. And as a developer I can appreciate their caution.
But so much can be done for a customer in a customized manner that the "big
boys" can't offer for all.

Thanks for responding,

bob



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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 8:36 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access - Advantage - Mediwin


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Heygood" <bheygood at abestsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 10:37 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Access - Advantage - Mediwin


> hello to the list,
> I created an app years ago that interfaced with the client's medical
> practice software.
> The software is Mediwin, which uses the Advantage db engine.
> After an upgrade to the Mediwin version, my ODBC calls fail for "Can't
lock
> all records" message from Jet. Some pursuit of the ODBC help indicates
that
> a network failure could also be an issue. And sure enough, they had the
> network guy in about the same time.
> Very odd that I can still link to the table of interest sometimes and even
> export to Excel, but can't open the table in datasheet view nor
successfully
> run any of my code.
<snip>

Bob,

I am working with another medical practice software
called DME VI (formerly Dezine) whose creators have
decided to make their own data definition files and ODBC
drivers to prevent linking to their tables without paying first.

I wouldn't be surprised if this has/will become a standard
practice in the medical software industry. You may want
to check if that's the wall you've run into.
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From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Mon Nov  1 09:09:07 2004
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 07:09:07 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Access - Advantage - Mediwin
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677217FF76@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <AMEDIDMAFJBGBGHMOEAEKEHOECAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

Jim,
Turns out it was just bad network settings during the upgrade.

Thanks for responding.

best,

bob

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 9:03 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access - Advantage - Mediwin


I recall a similar problem several years with an ODBC driver that interfaced
with a package that used Foxpro. When the package was updated the driver
quite working. The solution was to get an updated ODBC driver. HTH
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 9:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access - Advantage - Mediwin


hello to the list,
I created an app years ago that interfaced with the client's medical
practice software.
The software is Mediwin, which uses the Advantage db engine.
After an upgrade to the Mediwin version, my ODBC calls fail for "Can't lock
all records" message from Jet. Some pursuit of the ODBC help indicates that
a network failure could also be an issue. And sure enough, they had the
network guy in about the same time.
Very odd that I can still link to the table of interest sometimes and even
export to Excel, but can't open the table in datasheet view nor successfully
run any of my code.

Naturally, no one thought to let me know that the upgrade was happening. And
I am concerned that the vendor of the Mediwin software is not being helpful
because they would love to recreate most of my work themselves.

And of course, the client is now 10 days behind in sending out
correspondence that should have been done automatically from my program thru
Word....

So, any insight/comments on ODBC, Advantage, Mediwin or a comforting word
would be appreciated.

best,


bob

accesspro at nospamcox.net




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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Nov  1 09:47:51 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 07:47:51 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE
References: <20041101142425.31611.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <039a01c4c02a$256df8a0$6701a8c0@HAL9002>

Sander:

What happens if you move the back end to a local machine, relink the tables? 
Does it open fast?

Also, are you relinking the tables on open every time?

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "S D" <accessd667 at yahoo.com>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 6:24 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE


> Hi group,
>
> I've got a MAJOR problem.
>
> I've got an A2K application with a BE and a FE. FE is installed on the 
> local machine and the BE is installed on the server. Using WinNT
> Performance has always been soso. Not fast but not very slow either.
>
> Now we've migrated everything to A2k2 with WinXP.
>
> Performance is terrible times 10!! Opening the FE takes about 20-25 
> minutes. Opening a linked table takes 9 minutes same goes for tables in 
> the FE itself.
>
> However, when I open the FE and if I open a table that is stored in the FE 
> it opens directly, no problem. When I then open a linked table => bang 
> back to 9 minutes per table (linked or not)
>
> Is it possible that this somehow has to do with A2k2?? I know in Access 2 
> (that is two!!) you had to change OPENFILES parameter thingies somewhere. 
> Does Access 2002 also have such a setting that must be tweaked??
>
> TIA
>
> Sander
>
>
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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Mon Nov  1 10:00:36 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 11:00:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE
In-Reply-To: <20041101142425.31611.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKIECJKLAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Couple tips here:

 1. Make sure all MDB/MDE's are in the same format (JET 3.x vs 4.0)
 2. *Always* keep a connection to the BE database while the FE is open.  I
do this by opening a hidden form bound to a table in the BE right at startup
and close it when the app exits.  This is critical.
 3. Make sure the files are not being virus scanned at startup.
 4. Turn off OPLOCKS (Opportunistic Locking) on the server.
 5. Turn off sub datasheets
 6. Turn off name autocorrect
 7. Make sure all users have full read/write/delete priv for the directory
where the MDB resides.
 8. Make sure your distributing a compiled FE to clients.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 9:24 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE


Hi group,

I've got a MAJOR problem.

I've got an A2K application with a BE and a FE. FE is installed on the local
machine and the BE is installed on the server. Using WinNT
Performance has always been soso. Not fast but not very slow either.

Now we've migrated everything to A2k2 with WinXP.

Performance is terrible times 10!! Opening the FE takes about 20-25 minutes.
Opening a linked table takes 9 minutes same goes for tables in the FE
itself.

However, when I open the FE and if I open a table that is stored in the FE
it opens directly, no problem. When I then open a linked table => bang back
to 9 minutes per table (linked or not)

Is it possible that this somehow has to do with A2k2?? I know in Access 2
(that is two!!) you had to change OPENFILES parameter thingies somewhere.
Does Access 2002 also have such a setting that must be tweaked??

TIA

Sander


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From mark.breen at gmail.com  Mon Nov  1 10:07:32 2004
From: mark.breen at gmail.com (Mark Breen)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 16:07:32 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE
In-Reply-To: <039a01c4c02a$256df8a0$6701a8c0@HAL9002>
References: <20041101142425.31611.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com>
	<039a01c4c02a$256df8a0$6701a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <26a96cce0411010807180529d3@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Sander,

I wrote an email about this roughly a year ago to the list.

This is a documented aspect of the combination of what happens when
you upgrade your server to Windows 2K.  It effects programmetic links
to back end databases.  It specifically effects the linked table
connection.

There were two ways that I could see to fix it, 1) was to redesign my
system so that I open a seperate db and provide programmatic accesss
to the tables, this would eliminate the need to linked tables, they
would become local tables that happened to the located on a different
server, (local to the DAO object model that is).

The second way to solve it was to just import the tables back into the
front end and not use a FE / BE model.  I was reluctant to do this,
however, when I presented the option to the client, she was happy
enough to do this.  That was a year ago and i have had no problems
with it since.

The 'feature' is clearly documented on the knowledge base and when I
looked at it, MS had said that they had no intention to resolve this
issue.  You are welcome to see if that has changed.

Best of luck with it.

BTW, this issue did only effected databases with programmatic control
of the linked tables.  If you have a database (even a hugh one), that
just connects uning linked forms etc, then you will have no problem.

Best of luck with it,

Mark Breen
Ireland



On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 07:47:51 -0800, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access
Software <bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
> Sander:
> 
> What happens if you move the back end to a local machine, relink the tables?
> Does it open fast?
> 
> Also, are you relinking the tables on open every time?
> 
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "S D" <accessd667 at yahoo.com>
> To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 6:24 AM
> Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE
> 
> > Hi group,
> >
> > I've got a MAJOR problem.
> >
> > I've got an A2K application with a BE and a FE. FE is installed on the
> > local machine and the BE is installed on the server. Using WinNT
> > Performance has always been soso. Not fast but not very slow either.
> >
> > Now we've migrated everything to A2k2 with WinXP.
> >
> > Performance is terrible times 10!! Opening the FE takes about 20-25
> > minutes. Opening a linked table takes 9 minutes same goes for tables in
> > the FE itself.
> >
> > However, when I open the FE and if I open a table that is stored in the FE
> > it opens directly, no problem. When I then open a linked table => bang
> > back to 9 minutes per table (linked or not)
> >
> > Is it possible that this somehow has to do with A2k2?? I know in Access 2
> > (that is two!!) you had to change OPENFILES parameter thingies somewhere.
> > Does Access 2002 also have such a setting that must be tweaked??
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Sander
> >
> >
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Nov  1 10:51:31 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 10:51:31 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723371E4@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

<Make sure the files are not being virus scanned at startup.>

This drives me nuts. I have Norton System works and it virus scans all
office files. I have been totally unable to turn it off. Do you know the
secret? Maybe an exorcist?
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 10:01 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE


Couple tips here:

 1. Make sure all MDB/MDE's are in the same format (JET 3.x vs 4.0)
 2. *Always* keep a connection to the BE database while the FE is open.  I
do this by opening a hidden form bound to a table in the BE right at startup
and close it when the app exits.  This is critical.
 3. Make sure the files are not being virus scanned at startup.
 4. Turn off OPLOCKS (Opportunistic Locking) on the server.
 5. Turn off sub datasheets
 6. Turn off name autocorrect
 7. Make sure all users have full read/write/delete priv for the directory
where the MDB resides.
 8. Make sure your distributing a compiled FE to clients.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 9:24 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE


Hi group,

I've got a MAJOR problem.

I've got an A2K application with a BE and a FE. FE is installed on the local
machine and the BE is installed on the server. Using WinNT
Performance has always been soso. Not fast but not very slow either.

Now we've migrated everything to A2k2 with WinXP.

Performance is terrible times 10!! Opening the FE takes about 20-25 minutes.
Opening a linked table takes 9 minutes same goes for tables in the FE
itself.

However, when I open the FE and if I open a table that is stored in the FE
it opens directly, no problem. When I then open a linked table => bang back
to 9 minutes per table (linked or not)

Is it possible that this somehow has to do with A2k2?? I know in Access 2
(that is two!!) you had to change OPENFILES parameter thingies somewhere.
Does Access 2002 also have such a setting that must be tweaked??

TIA

Sander


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From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 17:01:01 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Retrieve a file types default icon for use with treeview
In-Reply-To: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKIECDKLAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
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Hello All...

Using Access XP with Windows XP

I have a treeview which includes branches representing external files
(.doc, .xls, .jpg etc.), I would like the icon displayed for these
branches to be the same as the one you would see in Explorer. I would
like to avoid hard-coding the icons into an image control as the file
records can be of any type, also in the case of MS Office for example,
the icons can change according to the applications version.

Anyone know how I can get at the default icon for a given type in a way
which I can use dynamically with an image control and treeview? Even if
it was only for MS Office file types???

Thanks in advance :@)

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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Mon Nov  1 11:17:32 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 11:17:32 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Retrieve a file types default icon for use with treeview
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB0865318D81@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

I have a VB6 sample that I downloaded from Planet Source Code.  
Should be easy enough to tailor to work in AccessXP:

http://www.planetsourcecode.com/vb/scripts/ShowCode.asp?txtCodeId=13803&
lngWId=1
 

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Hello All...

Using Access XP with Windows XP

I have a treeview which includes branches representing external files
(.doc, .xls, .jpg etc.), I would like the icon displayed for these
branches to be the same as the one you would see in Explorer. I would
like to avoid hard-coding the icons into an image control as the file
records can be of any type, also in the case of MS Office for example,
the icons can change according to the applications version.

Anyone know how I can get at the default icon for a given type in a way
which I can use dynamically with an image control and treeview? Even if
it was only for MS Office file types???

Thanks in advance :@)

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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Mon Nov  1 11:23:12 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 18:23:12 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B54AF@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

There is a well known issue what concerns re-linking slowness for tables
in a BE on a network server.

This can be easely solved by keeping a reference open to the backend.
This will speed up you linking to the backend but also opening forms,
tables etc.

Just keep a reference to the backend as long as the application is open.
Close it when closing Access.

Erwin
 

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Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 5:52 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE

<Make sure the files are not being virus scanned at startup.>

This drives me nuts. I have Norton System works and it virus scans all
office files. I have been totally unable to turn it off. Do you know the
secret? Maybe an exorcist?
Jim Hale

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From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 10:01 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE


Couple tips here:

 1. Make sure all MDB/MDE's are in the same format (JET 3.x vs 4.0)  2.
*Always* keep a connection to the BE database while the FE is open.  I
do this by opening a hidden form bound to a table in the BE right at
startup and close it when the app exits.  This is critical.
 3. Make sure the files are not being virus scanned at startup.
 4. Turn off OPLOCKS (Opportunistic Locking) on the server.
 5. Turn off sub datasheets
 6. Turn off name autocorrect
 7. Make sure all users have full read/write/delete priv for the
directory where the MDB resides.
 8. Make sure your distributing a compiled FE to clients.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 9:24 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE


Hi group,

I've got a MAJOR problem.

I've got an A2K application with a BE and a FE. FE is installed on the
local machine and the BE is installed on the server. Using WinNT
Performance has always been soso. Not fast but not very slow either.

Now we've migrated everything to A2k2 with WinXP.

Performance is terrible times 10!! Opening the FE takes about 20-25
minutes.
Opening a linked table takes 9 minutes same goes for tables in the FE
itself.

However, when I open the FE and if I open a table that is stored in the
FE it opens directly, no problem. When I then open a linked table =>
bang back to 9 minutes per table (linked or not)

Is it possible that this somehow has to do with A2k2?? I know in Access
2 (that is two!!) you had to change OPENFILES parameter thingies
somewhere.
Does Access 2002 also have such a setting that must be tweaked??

TIA

Sander


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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Mon Nov  1 11:35:50 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 12:35:50 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723371E4@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKGECOKLAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Jim,

1.  Open NSW.
2.  Click Options, Norton Anti-virus.
3.  Under "Which file types to scan for viruses", select "Scan Files using
Smart Scan", then click customize.
4.  Scroll to MDB, then click remove.

 Do this under manual scan as well or for manual scan, add MDB to the
exclusions list.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 11:52 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE


<Make sure the files are not being virus scanned at startup.>

This drives me nuts. I have Norton System works and it virus scans all
office files. I have been totally unable to turn it off. Do you know the
secret? Maybe an exorcist?
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 10:01 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE


Couple tips here:

 1. Make sure all MDB/MDE's are in the same format (JET 3.x vs 4.0)
 2. *Always* keep a connection to the BE database while the FE is open.  I
do this by opening a hidden form bound to a table in the BE right at startup
and close it when the app exits.  This is critical.
 3. Make sure the files are not being virus scanned at startup.
 4. Turn off OPLOCKS (Opportunistic Locking) on the server.
 5. Turn off sub datasheets
 6. Turn off name autocorrect
 7. Make sure all users have full read/write/delete priv for the directory
where the MDB resides.
 8. Make sure your distributing a compiled FE to clients.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 9:24 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE


Hi group,

I've got a MAJOR problem.

I've got an A2K application with a BE and a FE. FE is installed on the local
machine and the BE is installed on the server. Using WinNT
Performance has always been soso. Not fast but not very slow either.

Now we've migrated everything to A2k2 with WinXP.

Performance is terrible times 10!! Opening the FE takes about 20-25 minutes.
Opening a linked table takes 9 minutes same goes for tables in the FE
itself.

However, when I open the FE and if I open a table that is stored in the FE
it opens directly, no problem. When I then open a linked table => bang back
to 9 minutes per table (linked or not)

Is it possible that this somehow has to do with A2k2?? I know in Access 2
(that is two!!) you had to change OPENFILES parameter thingies somewhere.
Does Access 2002 also have such a setting that must be tweaked??

TIA

Sander


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From Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us  Mon Nov  1 11:36:01 2004
From: Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us (O'Connor, Patricia (OTDA))
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 12:36:01 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] compare record fields
Message-ID: <B94C79B465542042AB0748EAF37F9AC0A42774@EXCNYSM0A1AB.nysemail.nyenet>

I don't know whether you received an answer for this

In sql you would 
Select field(s)
>From x
Where x.field1 <> x.field2

Patti
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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> pedro at plex.nl
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 08:33 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] compare record fields
> 
> Hello Group,
> 
> i have a table in which i would compare two fields in one 
> record with each other.
> The result must be the record where one of the values don't 
> match with one another.
> 
> fieldA    fieldB  and several other fields
> 00123     00123
> 02345     02345
> 06789     06689
> 
> 
> result
> 
> fieldA   fieldB  and several other fields
> 06789    06689
> 
> 
> Is this possible.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Pedro Janssen
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From lists at theopg.com  Mon Nov  1 11:48:55 2004
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 17:48:55 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Retrieve a file types default icon for use with treeview
In-Reply-To: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB0865318D81@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>
Message-ID: <001701c4c03b$0e888d10$9139fc3e@netboxxp>

Excellent... Thanks Brett

Mark

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Sent: 01 November 2004 17:18
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Retrieve a file types default icon for use with
treeview


I have a VB6 sample that I downloaded from Planet Source Code.  
Should be easy enough to tailor to work in AccessXP:

http://www.planetsourcecode.com/vb/scripts/ShowCode.asp?txtCodeId=13803&
lngWId=1
 

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Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 11:01 AM
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Subject: [AccessD] Retrieve a file types default icon for use with
treeview


Hello All...

Using Access XP with Windows XP

I have a treeview which includes branches representing external files
(.doc, .xls, .jpg etc.), I would like the icon displayed for these
branches to be the same as the one you would see in Explorer. I would
like to avoid hard-coding the icons into an image control as the file
records can be of any type, also in the case of MS Office for example,
the icons can change according to the applications version.

Anyone know how I can get at the default icon for a given type in a way
which I can use dynamically with an image control and treeview? Even if
it was only for MS Office file types???

Thanks in advance :@)

Mark

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From handyman at actcom.co.il  Mon Nov  1 11:59:44 2004
From: handyman at actcom.co.il (handyman at actcom.co.il)
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 19:59:44 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Caller ID and Access
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041101195250.05d6b300@pop5.actcom.net.il>

Hi,

I'm interested in somehow retrieving a CallerID number from my modem, and 
then displaying the caller's information(taken from my database) on 
screen.  Has anyone ever done anything like this, or can point me in the 
right direction

Thanks,

Gershon Markowitz
mailto:Handyman at actcom.co.il



From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Nov  1 13:00:14 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 11:00:14 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723371E4@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIIEKLCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Jim:

Just a comment. I have heard of a number virus have been reported to be able
to totally clobber Nortons Virus protection, if it can not catch the
invading Virus/Trojan before it has a chance to start. Hence the reason for
Norton's immediate virus scan.

You can download a small program that lists all the auto-startup programs
and will allow you to find and re-set them. Can also be used to catch the
occasional Trojan that may have crept on to your system:
http://www.cybertechhelp.com/html/downloads/download.php/id/37

HTH
Jim


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 8:52 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE


<Make sure the files are not being virus scanned at startup.>

This drives me nuts. I have Norton System works and it virus scans all
office files. I have been totally unable to turn it off. Do you know the
secret? Maybe an exorcist?
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 10:01 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE


Couple tips here:

 1. Make sure all MDB/MDE's are in the same format (JET 3.x vs 4.0)
 2. *Always* keep a connection to the BE database while the FE is open.  I
do this by opening a hidden form bound to a table in the BE right at startup
and close it when the app exits.  This is critical.
 3. Make sure the files are not being virus scanned at startup.
 4. Turn off OPLOCKS (Opportunistic Locking) on the server.
 5. Turn off sub datasheets
 6. Turn off name autocorrect
 7. Make sure all users have full read/write/delete priv for the directory
where the MDB resides.
 8. Make sure your distributing a compiled FE to clients.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 9:24 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE


Hi group,

I've got a MAJOR problem.

I've got an A2K application with a BE and a FE. FE is installed on the local
machine and the BE is installed on the server. Using WinNT
Performance has always been soso. Not fast but not very slow either.

Now we've migrated everything to A2k2 with WinXP.

Performance is terrible times 10!! Opening the FE takes about 20-25 minutes.
Opening a linked table takes 9 minutes same goes for tables in the FE
itself.

However, when I open the FE and if I open a table that is stored in the FE
it opens directly, no problem. When I then open a linked table => bang back
to 9 minutes per table (linked or not)

Is it possible that this somehow has to do with A2k2?? I know in Access 2
(that is two!!) you had to change OPENFILES parameter thingies somewhere.
Does Access 2002 also have such a setting that must be tweaked??

TIA

Sander


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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Nov  1 13:00:11 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 11:00:11 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Caller ID and Access
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20041101195250.05d6b300@pop5.actcom.net.il>
Message-ID: <418687BB.3060008@shaw.ca>

 From a few years back
You will have to use TAPI, your modem need's to support caller ID
Ughh, you are in Italy so you may have to check the format of caller id
North America had half a dozen standards from the various Telco's in Mid 
90's
It was a mess.
It is essentially about 55 bytes of data being  sent between the first 
and second  ring of the phone
It can be more data, there are a couple of formats some included the 
callers name and blocking info in addition to the number.
I can't remember if there is now an established ISO standard
I did this back in 99.

What I would do is try the trial version of Mountain Sys on your 
telephone system and modem
It is only $15 a client, but you could roll your own code via Tapi after 
getting a format from your
Telco but maybe they have standardized format  by now in Italy.

  Companies that seem to handle callerid connections to Access.

   Mountain Systems   http://www.mtnsys.com

    CallAudit Software has sample Access 97 & 95 database with
      trial software that connects thru DDE.

   There are a lot of others. 
--------------------------------------------------------------------   
   From Mountain System FAQ buried in there
   
How to Test a MODEM for Caller ID Support
Caveats.

 Necessary equipment

   * Caller ID Service From your local telephone company
   * A Voice MODEM or hardware device that supports Caller ID
      
  
  Just about every MODEM disables Caller ID as the default.
  
  For most MODEMs, the string AT#CID=1 or AT#CLS=8#CID=1 will enable
   Caller ID. 

  If Caller ID is not working, you will only see the word RING for
  each incoming ring.
      
   The most common result, when Caller ID data works, is the following:
  
     RING
    
     DATE = xxxxx
    
     TIME = xxxx
    
     NMBR = xxxxxxxxx
    
     NAME = xxxxxxxx
    
     RING
    
     RING &#133;
    
   There are other formats as well. The key point is that other data
   generally appears between the first and second rings.
  
   Some telephone companies, especially in Canada, ship Caller ID data in
   different formats, Check the software handles this.

  TAPI support for Caller ID was added after Windows 95 was released.
  Microsoft has an updated version of UniModemV on their Web page that
  includes Caller ID support. The .INF file for your MODEM also needs to
  modified to take advantage of this support, and some modems do not
  yet have this capability.

  Windows NT 3.X does not include any support for TAPI. Although Windows
  NT 4.0 does.
handyman at actcom.co.il wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm interested in somehow retrieving a CallerID number from my modem, 
> and then displaying the caller's information(taken from my database) 
> on screen.  Has anyone ever done anything like this, or can point me 
> in the right direction
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gershon Markowitz
> mailto:Handyman at actcom.co.il
>

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Nov  1 14:49:49 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 14:49:49 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723371E5@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Thanks, I'll give it a try at home tonight.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 11:36 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE


Jim,

1.  Open NSW.
2.  Click Options, Norton Anti-virus.
3.  Under "Which file types to scan for viruses", select "Scan Files using
Smart Scan", then click customize.
4.  Scroll to MDB, then click remove.

 Do this under manual scan as well or for manual scan, add MDB to the
exclusions list.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 11:52 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE


<Make sure the files are not being virus scanned at startup.>

This drives me nuts. I have Norton System works and it virus scans all
office files. I have been totally unable to turn it off. Do you know the
secret? Maybe an exorcist?
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 10:01 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE


Couple tips here:

 1. Make sure all MDB/MDE's are in the same format (JET 3.x vs 4.0)
 2. *Always* keep a connection to the BE database while the FE is open.  I
do this by opening a hidden form bound to a table in the BE right at startup
and close it when the app exits.  This is critical.
 3. Make sure the files are not being virus scanned at startup.
 4. Turn off OPLOCKS (Opportunistic Locking) on the server.
 5. Turn off sub datasheets
 6. Turn off name autocorrect
 7. Make sure all users have full read/write/delete priv for the directory
where the MDB resides.
 8. Make sure your distributing a compiled FE to clients.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 9:24 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE


Hi group,

I've got a MAJOR problem.

I've got an A2K application with a BE and a FE. FE is installed on the local
machine and the BE is installed on the server. Using WinNT
Performance has always been soso. Not fast but not very slow either.

Now we've migrated everything to A2k2 with WinXP.

Performance is terrible times 10!! Opening the FE takes about 20-25 minutes.
Opening a linked table takes 9 minutes same goes for tables in the FE
itself.

However, when I open the FE and if I open a table that is stored in the FE
it opens directly, no problem. When I then open a linked table => bang back
to 9 minutes per table (linked or not)

Is it possible that this somehow has to do with A2k2?? I know in Access 2
(that is two!!) you had to change OPENFILES parameter thingies somewhere.
Does Access 2002 also have such a setting that must be tweaked??

TIA

Sander


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Nov  1 17:29:04 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 18:29:04 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] access security
In-Reply-To: <00ef01c4bdc7$26daedc0$45c2f63f@Desktop>
Message-ID: <000101c4c06a$a11a7ab0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

One thing you should do is set up relationships with child tables, then turn
cascade delete off.  This will prevent this in some instances.

John W. Colby
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Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 10:54 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] access security


I am trying to fix a security issue at my site. My managers like to edit or
delete records that they think are inappropriate in a product audit database
and usually fail to inform anyone of this. I have locked them out of the
backend access by the front end with the directory properties of windows for
the back end. But this also does not allow them to enter records either. But
I would also like to take one step further and not allow individuals that
are entering records into the database from either deleting or editing other
individual records. Can anyone share with me how they may have done this in
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From pcs at azizaz.com  Mon Nov  1 19:14:19 2004
From: pcs at azizaz.com (Borge Steen Hansen)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 11:14:19 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] CurrentDB Error
References: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKIECDKLAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <009601c4c079$47c1de40$fa10a8c0@Albatross>

The DAO reference is not broken.
Reference is to Microsoft DAO 3.6 Object library
The actual file is C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft
Shared\DAO\DAO360.DLL

Since the Access97 apps have been stable for a long time, my line of
thinking is that some how the DAO360.DLL file has been updated either by
installed another program, doing a microsoft update etc. So I searched all
instances of DAO360.dll and placed an earlier build version in the folder.
Same result.

I have now compared similar Access97 application installed on another WinXP
box. These apps have reference to DAO3.51

So somehow at some point what must have happened on the problem workstation
is similar to what is described by Microsoft in one of their KB articles.

Microsoft KB303829 describes the occurrance of exactly this error message
(Compile Error: Function or interface marked as restricted, or the function
uses Automation  type not supported in Visual Basic.)
after having updated the workstation to Microsoft Windows 2000.

Here's the article pointer:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;303829

In a nutshell: When installing Windows 2000 an Access97 gets into trouble:
"because during Windows2000 installation, the windows registry registers
DAO3.60 and updates the reference in Access97 to DAO 3.60. Windows also
removes the registration for DAO3.51"

Nice eh?     Really .... nice!!

Microsoft's suggested action is to register DAO3.51 again using the
regsvr32.exe

Now, what I'd like to know is :

Is DAO3.60 not compatible with Access97
Should you only use DAO3.51 ??

Secondly, how do you register DAO3.51 back into the registry??
I cannot use regsrv32 on WinXP.

Is this another subtle attempt by Microsoft to abandon older M$ software?

Enough!

In summary: Can some one please give me the recipe for registering DAO3.51
in WinXP?

Regards
Borge
Gold Coast, Australia


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Dettman" <jimdettman at earthlink.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 10:57 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] CurrentDB Error


>
>   The DAO reference may be broken.  Open a module in design view, click
> tools/references.  See if it's listed as MISSING or BROKEN.  If it is,
most
> likely you'll simply need to re-register it with regsvr32.exe
>
>   I none are listed missing or broken, check any reference that is not
> currently checked, close the MDB and Access, re-open and uncheck the
> reference you just checked.  Then try a compile.
>
> Jim Dettman
> (315) 699-3443
> jimdettman at earthlink.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Borge Steen
> Hansen
> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 9:51 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] CurrentDB Error
>
>
> Hi,
> I have a some Access97 database applications that have been working for
> years.
> They are currently sitting on WinXP with AccessXP installed as well.
>
> Been working on the XP box for over a year!
>
> Recently when making a minor modification and doing a 'Compile and Save' I
> get the following message on the first instance of CurrentDb
>
> Compile Error:
> Funtion or interface marked as restricted, or the function uses Automation
> type not supported in Visual Basic.
>
> I have reference to Microsoft DAO Object Library 3.6
> The dao.dll is version 03.60.8618.0
>
> Even if I try to disambiguate the thing, the compile error comes up:
>
> like:
>
> dim db as DAO.Database
> set db = CurrentDb
>
> when compiling it will error on the set db = CurrentDb line.
>
> Can anyone help me to shed light on what is going on?
>
>
> Regards
> Borge
> Gold Coast, Australia
>
>
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From pcs at azizaz.com  Mon Nov  1 19:54:20 2004
From: pcs at azizaz.com (Borge Steen Hansen)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 11:54:20 +1000
Subject: Fw: [AccessD] CurrentDB Error - Solved!
Message-ID: <000901c4c07e$df13de10$fa10a8c0@Albatross>

Managed to register dao350.dll using
the
regsrv32.exe "path\dao350.dll"
command.

After deselectiong "Microsoft DAO 3.6" and selecting "Microsoft DAO 3.51" in
the reference section My Access97 apps are up and running again!

Regards
Borge

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Borge Steen Hansen" <pcs at azizaz.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] CurrentDB Error


>
> In summary: Can some one please give me the recipe for registering DAO3.51
> in WinXP?
>
> Regards
> Borge
> Gold Coast, Australia
>
>



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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Nov  1 21:03:16 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 19:03:16 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] CurrentDB Error
In-Reply-To: <009601c4c079$47c1de40$fa10a8c0@Albatross>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIGELACHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Borge:

Try something like:

c:\MyWindowsDirectory\(system or system32)\regsrv32 -u DAO360.DLL

to check that is removed or not improperly registered and then

c:\MyWindowsDirectory\(system or system32)\regsrv32 C:\Program Files\Common
Files\Microsoft Shared\DAO\DAO360.DLL

To register the dll.

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Borge Steen
Hansen
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 5:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] CurrentDB Error


The DAO reference is not broken.
Reference is to Microsoft DAO 3.6 Object library
The actual file is C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft
Shared\DAO\DAO360.DLL

Since the Access97 apps have been stable for a long time, my line of
thinking is that some how the DAO360.DLL file has been updated either by
installed another program, doing a microsoft update etc. So I searched all
instances of DAO360.dll and placed an earlier build version in the folder.
Same result.

I have now compared similar Access97 application installed on another WinXP
box. These apps have reference to DAO3.51

So somehow at some point what must have happened on the problem workstation
is similar to what is described by Microsoft in one of their KB articles.

Microsoft KB303829 describes the occurrance of exactly this error message
(Compile Error: Function or interface marked as restricted, or the function
uses Automation  type not supported in Visual Basic.)
after having updated the workstation to Microsoft Windows 2000.

Here's the article pointer:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;303829

In a nutshell: When installing Windows 2000 an Access97 gets into trouble:
"because during Windows2000 installation, the windows registry registers
DAO3.60 and updates the reference in Access97 to DAO 3.60. Windows also
removes the registration for DAO3.51"

Nice eh?     Really .... nice!!

Microsoft's suggested action is to register DAO3.51 again using the
regsvr32.exe

Now, what I'd like to know is :

Is DAO3.60 not compatible with Access97
Should you only use DAO3.51 ??

Secondly, how do you register DAO3.51 back into the registry??
I cannot use regsrv32 on WinXP.

Is this another subtle attempt by Microsoft to abandon older M$ software?

Enough!

In summary: Can some one please give me the recipe for registering DAO3.51
in WinXP?

Regards
Borge
Gold Coast, Australia


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Dettman" <jimdettman at earthlink.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 10:57 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] CurrentDB Error


>
>   The DAO reference may be broken.  Open a module in design view, click
> tools/references.  See if it's listed as MISSING or BROKEN.  If it is,
most
> likely you'll simply need to re-register it with regsvr32.exe
>
>   I none are listed missing or broken, check any reference that is not
> currently checked, close the MDB and Access, re-open and uncheck the
> reference you just checked.  Then try a compile.
>
> Jim Dettman
> (315) 699-3443
> jimdettman at earthlink.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Borge Steen
> Hansen
> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 9:51 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] CurrentDB Error
>
>
> Hi,
> I have a some Access97 database applications that have been working for
> years.
> They are currently sitting on WinXP with AccessXP installed as well.
>
> Been working on the XP box for over a year!
>
> Recently when making a minor modification and doing a 'Compile and Save' I
> get the following message on the first instance of CurrentDb
>
> Compile Error:
> Funtion or interface marked as restricted, or the function uses Automation
> type not supported in Visual Basic.
>
> I have reference to Microsoft DAO Object Library 3.6
> The dao.dll is version 03.60.8618.0
>
> Even if I try to disambiguate the thing, the compile error comes up:
>
> like:
>
> dim db as DAO.Database
> set db = CurrentDb
>
> when compiling it will error on the set db = CurrentDb line.
>
> Can anyone help me to shed light on what is going on?
>
>
> Regards
> Borge
> Gold Coast, Australia
>
>
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Nov  1 22:04:57 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 20:04:57 -0800
Subject: Fw: [AccessD] CurrentDB Error - Solved!
References: <000901c4c07e$df13de10$fa10a8c0@Albatross>
Message-ID: <41870769.5030305@shaw.ca>

I have been using DAO360.dll for a couple of years on Access 97  with no 
problems
This is version 3.60.8618.0. I believe Jet SP 8.
SP4 though 6 had a lot of problems.
 You may have Unicode problems with 3.51 since it is ANSI based.
Borge Steen Hansen wrote:

>Managed to register dao350.dll using
>the
>regsrv32.exe "path\dao350.dll"
>command.
>
>After deselectiong "Microsoft DAO 3.6" and selecting "Microsoft DAO 3.51" in
>the reference section My Access97 apps are up and running again!
>
>Regards
>Borge
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Borge Steen Hansen" <pcs at azizaz.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 11:14 AM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] CurrentDB Error
>
>
>  
>
>>In summary: Can some one please give me the recipe for registering DAO3.51
>>in WinXP?
>>
>>Regards
>>Borge
>>Gold Coast, Australia
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>
>  
>

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Tue Nov  2 00:56:18 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 22:56:18 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] SQL Tables vs. Access Tables
In-Reply-To: <41870769.5030305@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <200411020656.iA26u9L27038@databaseadvisors.com>

I may be picking up an assignment that sounds like an Access front end into
SQL tables. I am waiting to hear from the project manager for the more
details you all will ask me for.

Is there any major difference between access tables and SQL tables I should
be aware of?

I think I do good table design, normalization and naming conventions.

thanks

Joe Hecht
jmhla at earthlink.net
28g




From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Nov  2 01:24:41 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 23:24:41 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] SQL Tables vs. Access Tables
References: <200411020656.iA26u9L27038@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <41873639.8030103@shaw.ca>

Just for starters the data types are just different enough to be a nuisance
See this comparision table
http://www.able-consulting.com/ADODataTypeEnum.htm

Joe Hecht wrote:

>I may be picking up an assignment that sounds like an Access front end into
>SQL tables. I am waiting to hear from the project manager for the more
>details you all will ask me for.
>
>Is there any major difference between access tables and SQL tables I should
>be aware of?
>
>I think I do good table design, normalization and naming conventions.
>
>thanks
>
>Joe Hecht
>jmhla at earthlink.net
>28g
>
>
>  
>

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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov  2 02:36:28 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 00:36:28 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723371E5@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <20041102083628.85337.qmail@web61105.mail.yahoo.com>

Thnx for all the great tips!!
I'm going to try them, ask around about the virusscan, etc. 
 
I've got a s##t load of work to do again ;-)

"Hale, Jim" <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com> wrote:
Thanks, I'll give it a try at home tonight.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 11:36 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE


Jim,

1. Open NSW.
2. Click Options, Norton Anti-virus.
3. Under "Which file types to scan for viruses", select "Scan Files using
Smart Scan", then click customize.
4. Scroll to MDB, then click remove.

Do this under manual scan as well or for manual scan, add MDB to the
exclusions list.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 11:52 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE




This drives me nuts. I have Norton System works and it virus scans all
office files. I have been totally unable to turn it off. Do you know the
secret? Maybe an exorcist?
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 10:01 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE


Couple tips here:

1. Make sure all MDB/MDE's are in the same format (JET 3.x vs 4.0)
2. *Always* keep a connection to the BE database while the FE is open. I
do this by opening a hidden form bound to a table in the BE right at startup
and close it when the app exits. This is critical.
3. Make sure the files are not being virus scanned at startup.
4. Turn off OPLOCKS (Opportunistic Locking) on the server.
5. Turn off sub datasheets
6. Turn off name autocorrect
7. Make sure all users have full read/write/delete priv for the directory
where the MDB resides.
8. Make sure your distributing a compiled FE to clients.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 9:24 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE


Hi group,

I've got a MAJOR problem.

I've got an A2K application with a BE and a FE. FE is installed on the local
machine and the BE is installed on the server. Using WinNT
Performance has always been soso. Not fast but not very slow either.

Now we've migrated everything to A2k2 with WinXP.

Performance is terrible times 10!! Opening the FE takes about 20-25 minutes.
Opening a linked table takes 9 minutes same goes for tables in the FE
itself.

However, when I open the FE and if I open a table that is stored in the FE
it opens directly, no problem. When I then open a linked table => bang back
to 9 minutes per table (linked or not)

Is it possible that this somehow has to do with A2k2?? I know in Access 2
(that is two!!) you had to change OPENFILES parameter thingies somewhere.
Does Access 2002 also have such a setting that must be tweaked??

TIA

Sander


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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov  2 04:15:16 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 02:15:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] CheckDate?
Message-ID: <20041102101516.73568.qmail@web61109.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi group,
 
I created a routine that checks if a date is correct. Can anybody review this one? I think that it's unnecessary complex.
 
TIA
 
Sander
If Not IsNull(txtExportDate) Then
        'Check month part
        If Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) > 12 Then
            'incorrect date!
        Else
            blnDate = True
        End If
        'Check day part
        Select Case Left(txtExportDate, 2)
        Case 31
            If (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 1) Or _
            (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 3) Or _
            (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 5) Or _
            (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 7) Or _
            (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 8) Or _
            (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 10) Or _
            (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 12) Then
                'correct day - month combi
                blnDate = True
            Else
                'incorrect day-month combi
                blnDate = False
            End If
        Case 30
            If (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 4) Or _
            (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 6) Or _
            (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 9) Or _
            (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 11) Then
                'correct day - month combi
                blnDate = True
            Else
                'incorrect day-month combi
                blnDate = False
            End If
        Case 28
            'Check if month is february
            If Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 2 Then
                'correct date
                blnDate = True
            Else
                'incorrectdate
                blnDate = False
            End If
        Case 1 To 27
            'correct day - month combi
            blnDate = True
        Case 29
            'Check if month is february
            If Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 2 Then
                'incorrect date
                blnDate = False
            Else
                'correctdate
                blnDate = True
            End If
        Case Else
            blnDate = False
        End Select
    Else
        'Null date
        Call MsgBox("U heeft geen exporteer datum opgegeven! Deze is verplicht.", _
                     vbExclamation, "Onjuiste datum")
        txtExportDate.SetFocus
        Exit Sub
    End If
    If Not blnDate Then
        Call MsgBox("De datum die u heeft opgegeven is onjuist! " _
             & vbCrLf & "Vul een datum in met formaat: DD-MM-YYYY" _
             & vbCrLf & "" _
             , vbCritical, "Onjuiste datum")
        txtExportDate.SetFocus
        Exit Sub
    Else
 

			
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov  2 04:45:55 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 11:45:55 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] CheckDate?
In-Reply-To: <20041102101516.73568.qmail@web61109.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20041102101516.73568.qmail@web61109.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <18110481571.20041102114555@cactus.dk>

Hi Sander

If you operate with one format only (dd-mm-yyyy) then you can follow
this route:

1. Check that it represents a valid date with IsDate(txtExportDate)

2. If so, convert to date and reformat:

  datDate = CDate(txtExportDate)
  strDate = Format(datDate, "dd-mm-yyyy")

  Now, compare the strings:

  If StrComp(txtExportDate, strDate) = 0 Then
    ' Date string is OK.
  End If

The last step may not be necessary as it will insist on date strings
like 02-09-2004 where 2-9-04 would be valid as well.
The reformat, though, is needed to catch strings like 12-20-2004 which
IsDate() accepts as 20-12-2004.

/gustav


> I created a routine that checks if a date is correct. Can anybody review this one? I think that it's unnecessary complex.
 
> TIA
 
> Sander
> If Not IsNull(txtExportDate) Then
>         'Check month part
>         If Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) > 12 Then
>             'incorrect date!
>         Else
>             blnDate = True
>         End If
>         'Check day part
>         Select Case Left(txtExportDate, 2)
>         Case 31
>             If (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 1) Or _
>             (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 3) Or _
>             (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 5) Or _
>             (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 7) Or _
>             (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 8) Or _
>             (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 10) Or _
>             (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 12) Then
>                 'correct day - month combi
>                 blnDate = True
>             Else
>                 'incorrect day-month combi
>                 blnDate = False
>             End If
>         Case 30
>             If (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 4) Or _
>             (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 6) Or _
>             (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 9) Or _
>             (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 11) Then
>                 'correct day - month combi
>                 blnDate = True
>             Else
>                 'incorrect day-month combi
>                 blnDate = False
>             End If
>         Case 28
>             'Check if month is february
>             If Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 2 Then
>                 'correct date
>                 blnDate = True
>             Else
>                 'incorrectdate
>                 blnDate = False
>             End If
>         Case 1 To 27
>             'correct day - month combi
>             blnDate = True
>         Case 29
>             'Check if month is february
>             If Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 2 Then
>                 'incorrect date
>                 blnDate = False
>             Else
>                 'correctdate
>                 blnDate = True
>             End If
>         Case Else
>             blnDate = False
>         End Select
>     Else
>         'Null date
>         Call MsgBox("U heeft geen exporteer datum opgegeven! Deze is verplicht.", _
>                      vbExclamation, "Onjuiste datum")
>         txtExportDate.SetFocus
>         Exit Sub
>     End If
>     If Not blnDate Then
>         Call MsgBox("De datum die u heeft opgegeven is onjuist! " _
>              & vbCrLf & "Vul een datum in met formaat: DD-MM-YYYY" _
>              & vbCrLf & "" _
>              , vbCritical, "Onjuiste datum")
>         txtExportDate.SetFocus
>         Exit Sub
>     Else



From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Tue Nov  2 05:15:43 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 22:15:43 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Currency as a percentage
Message-ID: <HCENJIGLCHCJMAFKCBFKIEOMCOAA.d.dick@uws.edu.au>

Hello all

Can never remember how to do percentages off the top of my head <sigh>

I have a a form that allows users to put in any Dollar amount for a discount
I also want to put in another txtBox and allow users to type in say...5 and
have the machine calculate discounts in Dollars from the "5" value

Thus have access caculate (in this case) 5 percent of the whole and then put
that currency amount (EG 5% of $100.00 = $5.00) of $5.00 in the discount
field

Make sense?

many thanks in advance

Darren



From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov  2 05:30:17 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 12:30:17 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Currency as a percentage
In-Reply-To: <HCENJIGLCHCJMAFKCBFKIEOMCOAA.d.dick@uws.edu.au>
References: <HCENJIGLCHCJMAFKCBFKIEOMCOAA.d.dick@uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <11613143709.20041102123017@cactus.dk>

Hi Darren

You divide 5 by 100 (=0.05 as "per cent" = "per hundred")
and multiply that with the amount:

  100 x 0.05 = 5.00

/gustav


> Hello all

> Can never remember how to do percentages off the top of my head <sigh>

> I have a a form that allows users to put in any Dollar amount for a discount
> I also want to put in another txtBox and allow users to type in say...5 and
> have the machine calculate discounts in Dollars from the "5" value

> Thus have access caculate (in this case) 5 percent of the whole and then put
> that currency amount (EG 5% of $100.00 = $5.00) of $5.00 in the discount
> field

> Make sense?

> many thanks in advance

> Darren



From deanellis at iprimus.com.au  Tue Nov  2 05:10:11 2004
From: deanellis at iprimus.com.au (Dean Ellis)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 21:40:11 +1030
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Currency as a percentage
In-Reply-To: <HCENJIGLCHCJMAFKCBFKIEOMCOAA.d.dick@uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <NHBBJMFJGLBLEAIIABJMGEMJCEAA.deanellis@iprimus.com.au>

Dazza,

The formula is fairly simple. Just divide 5 (being the percentage) by 100
and multiply it by the dollar amount. This will give the percentage og the
dollar amount in dollars.

Putting it into context.

Percent field = txtpercent
Dollar field = txtdollar
discount field = txtdiscount

txtdiscount = txtdollar * (txtpercent/100)

Cheers

Dean

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Hello all

Can never remember how to do percentages off the top of my head <sigh>

I have a a form that allows users to put in any Dollar amount for a discount
I also want to put in another txtBox and allow users to type in say...5 and
have the machine calculate discounts in Dollars from the "5" value

Thus have access caculate (in this case) 5 percent of the whole and then put
that currency amount (EG 5% of $100.00 = $5.00) of $5.00 in the discount
field

Make sense?

many thanks in advance

Darren

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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov  2 07:02:08 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 05:02:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] CheckDate?
In-Reply-To: <18110481571.20041102114555@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20041102130208.18853.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com>

Thnx Gustav (as always)
 
However, I added some extra checks to rule out 'impossible dates' like 29,30 or 31 februari, 31 november, etc.

Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
Hi Sander

If you operate with one format only (dd-mm-yyyy) then you can follow
this route:

1. Check that it represents a valid date with IsDate(txtExportDate)

2. If so, convert to date and reformat:

datDate = CDate(txtExportDate)
strDate = Format(datDate, "dd-mm-yyyy")

Now, compare the strings:

If StrComp(txtExportDate, strDate) = 0 Then
' Date string is OK.
End If

The last step may not be necessary as it will insist on date strings
like 02-09-2004 where 2-9-04 would be valid as well.
The reformat, though, is needed to catch strings like 12-20-2004 which
IsDate() accepts as 20-12-2004.

/gustav


> I created a routine that checks if a date is correct. Can anybody review this one? I think that it's unnecessary complex.

> TIA

> Sander
> If Not IsNull(txtExportDate) Then
> 'Check month part
> If Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) > 12 Then
> 'incorrect date!
> Else
> blnDate = True
> End If
> 'Check day part
> Select Case Left(txtExportDate, 2)
> Case 31
> If (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 1) Or _
> (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 3) Or _
> (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 5) Or _
> (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 7) Or _
> (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 8) Or _
> (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 10) Or _
> (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 12) Then
> 'correct day - month combi
> blnDate = True
> Else
> 'incorrect day-month combi
> blnDate = False
> End If
> Case 30
> If (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 4) Or _
> (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 6) Or _
> (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 9) Or _
> (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 11) Then
> 'correct day - month combi
> blnDate = True
> Else
> 'incorrect day-month combi
> blnDate = False
> End If
> Case 28
> 'Check if month is february
> If Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 2 Then
> 'correct date
> blnDate = True
> Else
> 'incorrectdate
> blnDate = False
> End If
> Case 1 To 27
> 'correct day - month combi
> blnDate = True
> Case 29
> 'Check if month is february
> If Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 2 Then
> 'incorrect date
> blnDate = False
> Else
> 'correctdate
> blnDate = True
> End If
> Case Else
> blnDate = False
> End Select
> Else
> 'Null date
> Call MsgBox("U heeft geen exporteer datum opgegeven! Deze is verplicht.", _
> vbExclamation, "Onjuiste datum")
> txtExportDate.SetFocus
> Exit Sub
> End If
> If Not blnDate Then
> Call MsgBox("De datum die u heeft opgegeven is onjuist! " _
> & vbCrLf & "Vul een datum in met formaat: DD-MM-YYYY" _
> & vbCrLf & "" _
> , vbCritical, "Onjuiste datum")
> txtExportDate.SetFocus
> Exit Sub
> Else

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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov  2 07:08:11 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 05:08:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] frmCalendar from ADHB2K?
Message-ID: <20041102130811.58524.qmail@web61105.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi group,
 
I'm using the form frmCalendar from the ADHB 2k in an app i'm using. However it seems that I cannot use the TAB-key to navigate through the form?!?!
 
Why is that? 
I already checked TabStop and TabIndex and these properties are correct.
 
TIA
 
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov  2 07:19:52 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 14:19:52 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] CheckDate?
In-Reply-To: <20041102130208.18853.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20041102130208.18853.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <17619718283.20041102141952@cactus.dk>

Hi Sander

> However, I added some extra checks to rule out 'impossible dates'
> like 29,30 or 31 februari, 31 november, etc.

Well, that's the point - IsDate() checks that as well!
Both IsDate("31-11-xxxx") and IsDate("11-31-xxxx") will fail.

/gustav



From lmrazek at lcm-res.com  Tue Nov  2 08:16:40 2004
From: lmrazek at lcm-res.com (Lawrence Mrazek)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 08:16:40 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Report Orientation Changing on Terminal Server
In-Reply-To: <17619718283.20041102141952@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <200411020916925.SM01564@hplaptop>

Greetings:

I have an app that is accessed via Terminal Server (Access XP Frontend,
Runtime), and have found that it is changing all of my reports to Portrait
from Landscape. Is there a workaround for this? I've tried to add the
following code to report's "report_open" property:

Me.Printer.Orientation = acPRORLandscape

But this code only works when you open the report, close the report, then
reopen. 

Has anyone else experienced this? Any hints?

Larry Mrazek
LCM Research, Inc.
www.lcm-res.com
lmrazek at lcm-res.com
ph. 314-432-5886
fx. 314-432-3304




From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Tue Nov  2 08:26:42 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 09:26:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Report Orientation Changing on Terminal Server
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C314@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

If this is an older version of Access, there is a *nasty* bug - on the
general tab of the database  - TOOLS OPTIONS GENERAL, if the Track Name
Auto Correct Info is checked as true, Access then opens up the reports
using the default options for each user.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lawrence
Mrazek
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 9:17 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Report Orientation Changing on Terminal Server


Greetings:

I have an app that is accessed via Terminal Server (Access XP Frontend,
Runtime), and have found that it is changing all of my reports to
Portrait
from Landscape. Is there a workaround for this? I've tried to add the
following code to report's "report_open" property:

Me.Printer.Orientation = acPRORLandscape

But this code only works when you open the report, close the report,
then
reopen. 

Has anyone else experienced this? Any hints?

Larry Mrazek
LCM Research, Inc.
www.lcm-res.com
lmrazek at lcm-res.com
ph. 314-432-5886
fx. 314-432-3304


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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Tue Nov  2 08:54:48 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 09:54:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Comparing Values of Fields
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C315@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

We are maintaining a parts database.  I have the master parts database
for manufacturers in a table named tblParts.  The manufacturer submits
to us an updated parts list in a table named tblMrfParts.

tblParts contains 25 fields.

tblMfrParts contains the same 25 fields.

I need to compare the values in the 25 fields, tying part number to part
number.  If the value in the tblMfrParts is different for that part
number for any field, show our database field value and the
manufacturers field value.  

Suggestions?  Come on, I answered a question today...


From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk  Tue Nov  2 09:14:31 2004
From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 15:14:31 -0000 
Subject: [AccessD] Comparing Values of Fields
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318805CED744@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

When I needed to do this is did it in DAO (it was a while ago). I don't have
time to hunt the code out, but basically if you open a recordset for each
table you can then loop through the first recordset, finding the matching
row in the 2nd recordset, and then (if the fields are in the same order)
simply loop through the fields collection of both recordsets looking for
non-matching fields. Where you get a mismatch you can output the values of
both fields to a temp table. Then move on to the next row in rs1 and so
forth.

HTH

Roz

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Sent: 02 November 2004 14:55
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Comparing Values of Fields


We are maintaining a parts database.  I have the master parts database for
manufacturers in a table named tblParts.  The manufacturer submits to us an
updated parts list in a table named tblMrfParts.

tblParts contains 25 fields.

tblMfrParts contains the same 25 fields.

I need to compare the values in the 25 fields, tying part number to part
number.  If the value in the tblMfrParts is different for that part number
for any field, show our database field value and the manufacturers field
value.  

Suggestions?  Come on, I answered a question today...
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From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Nov  2 09:37:00 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 10:37:00 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Comparing Values of Fields
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF948@DISABILITYINS01>

IN SQL you can do this using aliased fields to find the differences:

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	....

Thus any true in any NoMatchFldX is a place where the field values don't
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In the where clause do a huge NoMatchFld1 OR NoMatchFld2 etc to pull all
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Now you have all of the records with some field that doesn't match and
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Subject: [AccessD] Comparing Values of Fields


We are maintaining a parts database.  I have the master parts database
for manufacturers in a table named tblParts.  The manufacturer submits
to us an updated parts list in a table named tblMrfParts.

tblParts contains 25 fields.

tblMfrParts contains the same 25 fields.

I need to compare the values in the 25 fields, tying part number to part
number.  If the value in the tblMfrParts is different for that part
number for any field, show our database field value and the
manufacturers field value.  

Suggestions?  Come on, I answered a question today...
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov  2 09:40:32 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 16:40:32 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Comparing Values of Fields
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C315@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
References: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C315@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <17528158880.20041102164032@cactus.dk>

Hi Karen

Apart from the obvious (comparing each pair of fields in a query) you
can calculate for each record an MD5 or SHA-256 hash value of a string
build by concatenating the formatted values:

  http://www.frez.co.uk/freecode.htm#md5

The retrieve those records where the hash values don't match.
You could also calculate the CRC value.

/gustav


> Date: 2004-11-02 15:54

> We are maintaining a parts database.  I have the master parts database
> for manufacturers in a table named tblParts.  The manufacturer submits
> to us an updated parts list in a table named tblMrfParts.

> tblParts contains 25 fields.

> tblMfrParts contains the same 25 fields.

> I need to compare the values in the 25 fields, tying part number to part
> number.  If the value in the tblMfrParts is different for that part
> number for any field, show our database field value and the
> manufacturers field value.  

> Suggestions?  Come on, I answered a question today...



From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Nov  2 10:51:33 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 11:51:33 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] TOP 1 kinda thing
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF949@DISABILITYINS01>

I have a situation where a claim can have more than one ATP

CLID	ATPID
1	1
1	2
1	3
2	4
2	5
3	6
3	7
3	8

I need to select only the first ATPID such that the result set looks like:

CLID	ATPID
1	1
2	4
3	6

Is it possible to do this directly in SQL?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy



From CMackin at quiznos.com  Tue Nov  2 10:57:24 2004
From: CMackin at quiznos.com (Mackin, Christopher)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 09:57:24 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] TOP 1 kinda thing
Message-ID: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27F0B9@snowmass.quiznos.net>

SELECT CLID, MIN(ATPID) AS MinATPID
FROM WhateverTable
GROUP BY CLID

Will take care of it.

-Chris Mackin

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 9:52 AM
To: 'AccessD at DatabaseAdvisors.com'
Subject: [AccessD] TOP 1 kinda thing


I have a situation where a claim can have more than one ATP

CLID	ATPID
1	1
1	2
1	3
2	4
2	5
3	6
3	7
3	8

I need to select only the first ATPID such that the result set looks like:

CLID	ATPID
1	1
2	4
3	6

Is it possible to do this directly in SQL?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov  2 11:03:56 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 18:03:56 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] TOP 1 kinda thing
In-Reply-To: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF949@DISABILITYINS01>
References: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF949@DISABILITYINS01>
Message-ID: <14933162254.20041102180356@cactus.dk>

Hi John

How about a Group By CLID selecting MIN(ATPID)?

/gustav


> I have a situation where a claim can have more than one ATP

> CLID    ATPID
> 1       1
> 1       2
> 1       3
> 2       4
> 2       5
> 3       6
> 3       7
> 3       8

> I need to select only the first ATPID such that the result set looks like:

> CLID    ATPID
> 1       1
> 2       4
> 3       6

> Is it possible to do this directly in SQL?

> John W. Colby
> The DIS Database Guy



From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Nov  2 11:12:00 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 12:12:00 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] TOP 1 kinda thing
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF94A@DISABILITYINS01>

Thanks, that was what I was looking for.  

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Mackin, Christopher [mailto:CMackin at quiznos.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 11:57 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] TOP 1 kinda thing


SELECT CLID, MIN(ATPID) AS MinATPID
FROM WhateverTable
GROUP BY CLID

Will take care of it.

-Chris Mackin

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 9:52 AM
To: 'AccessD at DatabaseAdvisors.com'
Subject: [AccessD] TOP 1 kinda thing


I have a situation where a claim can have more than one ATP

CLID	ATPID
1	1
1	2
1	3
2	4
2	5
3	6
3	7
3	8

I need to select only the first ATPID such that the result set looks like:

CLID	ATPID
1	1
2	4
3	6

Is it possible to do this directly in SQL?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy

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From handyman at actcom.co.il  Tue Nov  2 11:07:46 2004
From: handyman at actcom.co.il (handyman at actcom.co.il)
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 19:07:46 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Caller ID and Access
In-Reply-To: <418687BB.3060008@shaw.ca>
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20041101195250.05d6b300@pop5.actcom.net.il>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041102190512.0291ad90@pop5.actcom.net.il>

Thanks!

This program from Mountain Systems seems to do a lot of the stuff I want. 
Since it stores all information in an Access database, I can just integrate 
it with my database with some work.

Thanks again!

gm

  At 11:00 AM, 11/1/2004 -0800, you wrote:
> From a few years back
>You will have to use TAPI, your modem need's to support caller ID
>Ughh, you are in Italy so you may have to check the format of caller id
>North America had half a dozen standards from the various Telco's in Mid 90's
>It was a mess.
>It is essentially about 55 bytes of data being  sent between the first and 
>second  ring of the phone
>It can be more data, there are a couple of formats some included the 
>callers name and blocking info in addition to the number.
>I can't remember if there is now an established ISO standard
>I did this back in 99.
>
>What I would do is try the trial version of Mountain Sys on your telephone 
>system and modem
>It is only $15 a client, but you could roll your own code via Tapi after 
>getting a format from your
>Telco but maybe they have standardized format  by now in Italy.
>
>  Companies that seem to handle callerid connections to Access.
>
>   Mountain Systems   http://www.mtnsys.com
>
>    CallAudit Software has sample Access 97 & 95 database with
>      trial software that connects thru DDE.
>
>   There are a lot of others. 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>   From Mountain System FAQ buried in there
>
>How to Test a MODEM for Caller ID Support
>Caveats.
>
>Necessary equipment
>
>   * Caller ID Service From your local telephone company
>   * A Voice MODEM or hardware device that supports Caller ID
>
>
>  Just about every MODEM disables Caller ID as the default.
>
>  For most MODEMs, the string AT#CID=1 or AT#CLS=8#CID=1 will enable
>   Caller ID.
>  If Caller ID is not working, you will only see the word RING for
>  each incoming ring.
>
>   The most common result, when Caller ID data works, is the following:
>
>     RING
>
>     DATE = xxxxx
>
>     TIME = xxxx
>
>     NMBR = xxxxxxxxx
>
>     NAME = xxxxxxxx
>
>     RING
>
>     RING &#133;
>
>   There are other formats as well. The key point is that other data
>   generally appears between the first and second rings.
>
>   Some telephone companies, especially in Canada, ship Caller ID data in
>   different formats, Check the software handles this.
>
>  TAPI support for Caller ID was added after Windows 95 was released.
>  Microsoft has an updated version of UniModemV on their Web page that
>  includes Caller ID support. The .INF file for your MODEM also needs to
>  modified to take advantage of this support, and some modems do not
>  yet have this capability.
>
>  Windows NT 3.X does not include any support for TAPI. Although Windows
>  NT 4.0 does.
>handyman at actcom.co.il wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I'm interested in somehow retrieving a CallerID number from my modem, and 
>>then displaying the caller's information(taken from my database) on 
>>screen.  Has anyone ever done anything like this, or can point me in the 
>>right direction
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Gershon Markowitz
>>mailto:Handyman at actcom.co.il
>
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>Canada
>
>
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From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Nov  2 11:24:15 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 12:24:15 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] TOP 1 kinda thing
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF94B@DISABILITYINS01>

Yep, that did it.  Thanks.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:04 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] TOP 1 kinda thing


Hi John

How about a Group By CLID selecting MIN(ATPID)?

/gustav


> I have a situation where a claim can have more than one ATP

> CLID    ATPID
> 1       1
> 1       2
> 1       3
> 2       4
> 2       5
> 3       6
> 3       7
> 3       8

> I need to select only the first ATPID such that the result set looks like:

> CLID    ATPID
> 1       1
> 2       4
> 3       6

> Is it possible to do this directly in SQL?

> John W. Colby
> The DIS Database Guy

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From mnptl at sonmedia.com  Tue Nov  2 11:39:23 2004
From: mnptl at sonmedia.com (mnptl at sonmedia.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 12:39:23 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [AccessD] Time Synchronization
Message-ID: <35609.10.235.219.133.1099417163.webmail@10.235.219.133>

Does anyone know of any VBA code to be placed within an Access application
that can easily poll an Internet-based time server, and return that time
to a variable?  Searching through the archives hasn't come up with
naything ... yet ...

Thanks,

Mark Naud?









From Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us  Tue Nov  2 11:43:08 2004
From: Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us (O'Connor, Patricia (OTDA))
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 12:43:08 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Form design question
Message-ID: <B94C79B465542042AB0748EAF37F9AC0A4277B@EXCNYSM0A1AB.nysemail.nyenet>



I think you are talking about a continuous subform

The main form would contain the order number, order date etc
The subform would contain a line for each product, the quantity and
amount.

If you are looking at it for data entry, then you can use dropdown box
that links to product table to select the product, etc.

Hth
Patti

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> accma at sympatico.ca
> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 01:07 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Form design question
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm wondering if it's possible to have multiple sections in a 
> forms like in a report.  I don't exactly know how to explane 
> this so I'll demontrate it as best as I can.  On a form, I 
> want to display all the products available.  That form would 
> be the order entry form.  What I would like to do is put 
> multiple column like this : product #, qt, price, product #, 
> qt, price, product #, qt, price.  The second and third 
> "product #, qt, price" would be the continuing of the first column.
> 
> Is this even possible and if so, how can I do this?
> 
> Tanks!
> 
> Annie
> 
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From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Tue Nov  2 12:16:29 2004
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 18:16:29 -0000 
Subject: [AccessD] Time Synchronization
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C433@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>

Hi Mark!

Would it not be easier to synch the clock on the host machine with a NTP
server and then get that via Date() Time() etc?

Or does the time function need to be totally encapsulated in the Access app?

Regards!
Chris Foote


> -----Original Message-----
> From: mnptl at sonmedia.com [mailto:mnptl at sonmedia.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 5:39 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Time Synchronization
> 
> 
> Does anyone know of any VBA code to be placed within an 
> Access application
> that can easily poll an Internet-based time server, and 
> return that time
> to a variable?  Searching through the archives hasn't come up with
> naything ... yet ...
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark Naud?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From artful at rogers.com  Tue Nov  2 12:40:38 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 13:40:38 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] SQL Tables vs. Access Tables
In-Reply-To: <200411020656.iA26u9L27038@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <200411020656.iA26u9L27038@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <4187D4A6.1090003@rogers.com>

Joe Hecht wrote:

>I may be picking up an assignment that sounds like an Access front end into
>SQL tables. I am waiting to hear from the project manager for the more
>details you all will ask me for.
>
>Is there any major difference between access tables and SQL tables I should
>be aware of?
>
>I think I do good table design, normalization and naming conventions.
>
>thanks
>
>Joe Hecht
>jmhla at earthlink.net
>28g
>
>
>  
>
I would suggest the following:

1. Design it in Access, where you're comfortable. Then use the upsizing 
wizard to move it to SS when you're ready. Make sure that every 
combo/list/form etc. uses a named query, NOT a select statement. To save 
yourself some issues down the road, where you would normally bind a form 
to a table, create a named query (even if it's nothing more than SELECT 
* FROM MyTable) for every form. This will save you a lot of hassle in 
the converted app.

2. Get a copy of SQL: Access to SQL Server, by our own Harkins and Reid.

3. Many of the things that we are comfortable in doing in Access are 
quite the wrong approach with SQL Server, in terms of best practices. 
This part cannot be communicated in a simple email message, but in 
general it reduces to this: the old practice of binding forms to tables 
is all wrong. Even if you substitute queries for the tables, if it's 
SELECT * it's all wrong (unless the table is very small). The number of 
times a user actually wants to see all the rows is relatively small. To 
give one example, a form showing Sales might start with a datasheet or 
continuous form that shows only the most important columns. Instead of 
showing all the sales, you might have 3 or 4 buttons on it, Sales30, 
Sales60, Sales90 and All. Each of these would change the data source to 
a stored procedure that says something like SELECT MyColumns FROM Sales 
WHERE SaleDate > GetDate() - 30. And so on. This results in lightning 
performance, which is usually demanded in a SQL Server app.

4. If all else fails, hire me. LOL.

Arthur


From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Tue Nov  2 14:10:01 2004
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 12:10:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
Message-ID: <20041102201001.60145.qmail@web20424.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello all,
 
I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)
 
Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As Long) As Long
Dim dwReturn As Long
Const SW_HIDE = 0
Const SW_SHOWNORMAL = 1
Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....
 
It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?
 
I know there is an answer out there somewhere!
 
Thanks in advance.



May God bless you beyond your imagination!
Lonnie Johnson
ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us





 





			
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From mnptl at sonmedia.com  Tue Nov  2 14:20:38 2004
From: mnptl at sonmedia.com (mnptl at sonmedia.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 15:20:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [AccessD] Time Synchronization
In-Reply-To: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C433@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>
References: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C433@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>
Message-ID: <58926.10.235.219.133.1099426838.webmail@10.235.219.133>

Hi Chris - yes, TECHNICALLY that would be a lot easier!  PROCEDURALLY,
that could take months!  I'm currently assisting a pharmaceutical company
with ensuring that they meet all FDA regulations, especially those
concerning electronic records.

The concept of handling their time synchronization in a centralized way is
somewhat new, and will have to go up the chain of command to head office,
mulled over, a policy put in place, local IT procedures created, and then
the technical controls instituted...  a very long process.

I was hoping that there was something similar to:

command.com /c net time \\<servername> /set /y

that could use for synchronizing the local machine's time to a "standard"
clock available on the Internet, such as NIST.  I tried the command above
with:

command.com /c net time \\129.6.15.28 /set /y

... (which is one of the NIST time server IP addresses) but with no
success.  It CAN be used for synchronizing with the back-end server, but I
was hoping for something more thorough!

Let me know if you know of any other way.

Thanks,

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: "Foote, Chris" <Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Time Synchronization

Hi Mark!

Would it not be easier to synch the clock on the host machine with a NTP
server and then get that via Date() Time() etc?

Or does the time function need to be totally encapsulated in the Access app?

Regards!
Chris Foote

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 5:39 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Time Synchronization

Does anyone know of any VBA code to be placed within an Access application
that can easily poll an Internet-based time server, and return that time
to a variable?  Searching through the archives hasn't come up with
anything ... yet ...






From JHewson at karta.com  Tue Nov  2 14:22:14 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 14:22:14 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068C6B@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

Lonnie,
If you mean print from the preview, you'll need to have a custom menu.
If you mean print from a button click without preview: DoCmd.OpenReport "SomeReport" works well.
Did I miss something?
HTH
Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 2:10 PM
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access;
AccessD solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,
 
I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)
 
Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As Long) As Long
Dim dwReturn As Long
Const SW_HIDE = 0
Const SW_SHOWNORMAL = 1
Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....
 
It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?
 
I know there is an answer out there somewhere!
 
Thanks in advance.



May God bless you beyond your imagination!
Lonnie Johnson
ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us





 





			
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Nov  2 14:33:35 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 14:33:35 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Time Synchronization
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D055@main2.marlow.com>

I wrote a sync program in VB.  You could use it in Access, just uses the
Winsock control.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: mnptl at sonmedia.com [mailto:mnptl at sonmedia.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 2:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Time Synchronization


Hi Chris - yes, TECHNICALLY that would be a lot easier!  PROCEDURALLY,
that could take months!  I'm currently assisting a pharmaceutical company
with ensuring that they meet all FDA regulations, especially those
concerning electronic records.

The concept of handling their time synchronization in a centralized way is
somewhat new, and will have to go up the chain of command to head office,
mulled over, a policy put in place, local IT procedures created, and then
the technical controls instituted...  a very long process.

I was hoping that there was something similar to:

command.com /c net time \\<servername> /set /y

that could use for synchronizing the local machine's time to a "standard"
clock available on the Internet, such as NIST.  I tried the command above
with:

command.com /c net time \\129.6.15.28 /set /y

... (which is one of the NIST time server IP addresses) but with no
success.  It CAN be used for synchronizing with the back-end server, but I
was hoping for something more thorough!

Let me know if you know of any other way.

Thanks,

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: "Foote, Chris" <Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Time Synchronization

Hi Mark!

Would it not be easier to synch the clock on the host machine with a NTP
server and then get that via Date() Time() etc?

Or does the time function need to be totally encapsulated in the Access app?

Regards!
Chris Foote

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 5:39 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Time Synchronization

Does anyone know of any VBA code to be placed within an Access application
that can easily poll an Internet-based time server, and return that time
to a variable?  Searching through the archives hasn't come up with
anything ... yet ...




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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Tue Nov  2 14:44:52 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 15:44:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
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Can't you right-click and choose Print?

Bobby

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Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:10 PM
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access; AccessD
solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,
 
I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just shows
a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)
 
Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As Long)
As Long Dim dwReturn As Long Const SW_HIDE = 0 Const SW_SHOWNORMAL = 1 Const
SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....
 
It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview reports.
However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?
 
I know there is an answer out there somewhere!
 
Thanks in advance.



May God bless you beyond your imagination!
Lonnie Johnson
ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Tue Nov  2 14:44:11 2004
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 15:44:11 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A2742@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

I've not tried this out, but you can probably do this by previewing the
report and displaying a small Pop-up form with the buttons needed to print,
quit, save to file etc.

I do this kind of thing in a 'normal' access project, with the Access window
visible, opening the report with code like this...


    PrintPreview "SomeReport", me.Name
    While IsLoaded("PrintPreviewFrm")
        DoEvents
    Wend

The routine PrintPreview  takes the name of the report and the calling form
as parameters and then opens the form PrintPreviewFrm which in turn opens
the report in preview mode.

The while loop then pauses the calling code until the form is closed.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
> Sent:	Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:22 PM
> To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject:	RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
> 
> Lonnie,
> If you mean print from the preview, you'll need to have a custom menu.
> If you mean print from a button click without preview: DoCmd.OpenReport
> "SomeReport" works well.
> Did I miss something?
> HTH
> Jim
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 2:10 PM
> To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access;
> AccessD solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
> 
> 
> Hello all,
>  
> I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just
> shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)
>  
> Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As Long)
> As Long
> Dim dwReturn As Long
> Const SW_HIDE = 0
> Const SW_SHOWNORMAL = 1
> Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....
>  
> It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview
> reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?
>  
> I know there is an answer out there somewhere!
>  
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> 
> May God bless you beyond your imagination!
> Lonnie Johnson
> ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
> Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Nov  2 15:04:23 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 13:04:23 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B33@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Have you created a shortcut menu for the report?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Can't you right-click and choose Print?

Bobby

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:10 PM
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access;
AccessD solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,
 
I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just
shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)
 
Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As
Long) As Long Dim dwReturn As Long Const SW_HIDE = 0 Const SW_SHOWNORMAL
= 1 Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....
 
It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview
reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?
 
I know there is an answer out there somewhere!
 
Thanks in advance.



May God bless you beyond your imagination!
Lonnie Johnson
ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us





 





			
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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Tue Nov  2 15:12:48 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 22:12:48 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Caller ID and Access
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B54C5@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

If you have ISDN you gonna need a ISDN card with CAPI support.
There is some VB code out there to use CAPI in access.
I have such an Access DB that use a CAPI control for wich the VB code
was available.

Dont know the website anymore, it was several years ago.

This only works with ISDN and a CAPI supported card like Eicon

Erwin

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
handyman at actcom.co.il
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 6:08 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Caller ID and Access

Thanks!

This program from Mountain Systems seems to do a lot of the stuff I
want. 
Since it stores all information in an Access database, I can just
integrate it with my database with some work.

Thanks again!

gm

  At 11:00 AM, 11/1/2004 -0800, you wrote:
> From a few years back
>You will have to use TAPI, your modem need's to support caller ID Ughh,

>you are in Italy so you may have to check the format of caller id North

>America had half a dozen standards from the various Telco's in Mid 90's

>It was a mess.
>It is essentially about 55 bytes of data being  sent between the first 
>and second  ring of the phone It can be more data, there are a couple 
>of formats some included the callers name and blocking info in addition

>to the number.
>I can't remember if there is now an established ISO standard I did this

>back in 99.
>
>What I would do is try the trial version of Mountain Sys on your 
>telephone system and modem It is only $15 a client, but you could roll 
>your own code via Tapi after getting a format from your Telco but maybe

>they have standardized format  by now in Italy.
>
>  Companies that seem to handle callerid connections to Access.
>
>   Mountain Systems   http://www.mtnsys.com
>
>    CallAudit Software has sample Access 97 & 95 database with
>      trial software that connects thru DDE.
>
>   There are a lot of others. 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>   From Mountain System FAQ buried in there
>
>How to Test a MODEM for Caller ID Support Caveats.
>
>Necessary equipment
>
>   * Caller ID Service From your local telephone company
>   * A Voice MODEM or hardware device that supports Caller ID
>
>
>  Just about every MODEM disables Caller ID as the default.
>
>  For most MODEMs, the string AT#CID=1 or AT#CLS=8#CID=1 will enable
>   Caller ID.
>  If Caller ID is not working, you will only see the word RING for  
> each incoming ring.
>
>   The most common result, when Caller ID data works, is the following:
>
>     RING
>
>     DATE = xxxxx
>
>     TIME = xxxx
>
>     NMBR = xxxxxxxxx
>
>     NAME = xxxxxxxx
>
>     RING
>
>     RING &#133;
>
>   There are other formats as well. The key point is that other data
>   generally appears between the first and second rings.
>
>   Some telephone companies, especially in Canada, ship Caller ID data
in
>   different formats, Check the software handles this.
>
>  TAPI support for Caller ID was added after Windows 95 was released.
>  Microsoft has an updated version of UniModemV on their Web page that

> includes Caller ID support. The .INF file for your MODEM also needs to

> modified to take advantage of this support, and some modems do not  
> yet have this capability.
>
>  Windows NT 3.X does not include any support for TAPI. Although 
>Windows
>  NT 4.0 does.
>handyman at actcom.co.il wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I'm interested in somehow retrieving a CallerID number from my modem, 
>>and then displaying the caller's information(taken from my database) 
>>on screen.  Has anyone ever done anything like this, or can point me 
>>in the right direction
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Gershon Markowitz
>>mailto:Handyman at actcom.co.il
>
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From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Tue Nov  2 15:13:53 2004
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 13:13:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B33@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <20041102211353.70465.qmail@web20424.mail.yahoo.com>

Yes, I have created the menu as and a toolbar as Jim had also suggested and assigned their names in the property window for the form and cannot see either of them when I open it. Am I missing another step?
 
Thanks Charlotte.
 
Bobby, Right Click dosen't work in this case with the HideWindow code.
 
Thanks to all so far.

Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
Have you created a shortcut menu for the report?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Can't you right-click and choose Print?

Bobby

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie
Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:10 PM
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access;
AccessD solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,

I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just
shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)

Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As
Long) As Long Dim dwReturn As Long Const SW_HIDE = 0 Const SW_SHOWNORMAL
= 1 Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....

It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview
reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?

I know there is an answer out there somewhere!

Thanks in advance.



May God bless you beyond your imagination!
Lonnie Johnson
ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us












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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Nov  2 15:42:41 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 07:42:41 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Time Synchronization
In-Reply-To: <58926.10.235.219.133.1099426838.webmail@10.235.219.133>
References: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C433@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>
Message-ID: <41888BF1.20826.E4E5F62@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 2 Nov 2004 at 15:20, mnptl at sonmedia.com wrote:

> 
> I was hoping that there was something similar to:
> 
> command.com /c net time \\<servername> /set /y
> 
> that could use for synchronizing the local machine's time to a "standard"
> clock available on the Internet, such as NIST.  I tried the command above
> with:
> 
> command.com /c net time \\129.6.15.28 /set /y
> 
> ... (which is one of the NIST time server IP addresses) but with no
> success.  It CAN be used for synchronizing with the back-end server, but I
> was hoping for something more thorough!
> 
> Let me know if you know of any other way.
> 

Generally I just use something like AboutTime from 
http://www.arachnoid.com/abouttime/index.html

I normally run it as  a single machine which has permanent internet access 
such as a mail server and use net time on all the workstations to keep them 
in synch.

But if you really need to embed it in Access, download the code at  
http://www.freevbcode.com/ShowCode.asp?ID=1594  It is a simple one form VB 
NTP client application.  You should just about be able to cut and paste the 
whole thing into an Access from.

-- 
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Nov  2 15:48:53 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 13:48:53 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B34@infoserver01.infostat.local>

It seems to me that the one time I did something like this, I had to
create a popup form that looked like a toolbar and open that when the
report opened so that I could print the report.  I don't recall whether
a floating toolbar was an option, but it you hide the window, then
logically, you also hide the menus.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Lonnie Johnson [mailto:prodevmg at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 1:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Yes, I have created the menu as and a toolbar as Jim had also suggested
and assigned their names in the property window for the form and cannot
see either of them when I open it. Am I missing another step?
 
Thanks Charlotte.
 
Bobby, Right Click dosen't work in this case with the HideWindow code.
 
Thanks to all so far.

Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
Have you created a shortcut menu for the report?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Can't you right-click and choose Print?

Bobby

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Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:10 PM
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access;
AccessD solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,

I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just
shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)

Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As
Long) As Long Dim dwReturn As Long Const SW_HIDE = 0 Const SW_SHOWNORMAL
= 1 Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....

It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview
reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?

I know there is an answer out there somewhere!

Thanks in advance.



May God bless you beyond your imagination!
Lonnie Johnson
ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us












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From JHewson at karta.com  Tue Nov  2 15:51:55 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 15:51:55 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068C6C@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>


Lonnie,
You can't preview the report with Access Window hidden.
To preview the report, you must unhide the Access Window and then hide it again when the report preview is completed.

Sequence of events to preview report...
- click button to preview report
- set form property visible to false
- unhide Access Window
- preview report - make sure you have a custom menu.
- close report
- hide Access Window
- set form property visible to True

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Yes, I have created the menu as and a toolbar as Jim had also suggested and assigned their names in the property window for the form and cannot see either of them when I open it. Am I missing another step?
 
Thanks Charlotte.
 
Bobby, Right Click dosen't work in this case with the HideWindow code.
 
Thanks to all so far.

Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
Have you created a shortcut menu for the report?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Can't you right-click and choose Print?

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie
Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:10 PM
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access;
AccessD solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,

I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just
shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)

Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As
Long) As Long Dim dwReturn As Long Const SW_HIDE = 0 Const SW_SHOWNORMAL
= 1 Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....

It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview
reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?

I know there is an answer out there somewhere!

Thanks in advance.



May God bless you beyond your imagination!
Lonnie Johnson
ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us












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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Tue Nov  2 15:54:05 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 08:54:05 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
In-Reply-To: <20041102211353.70465.qmail@web20424.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200411022154.iA2LsDXH006088@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Lonnie
I use this code all the time too.
When you want to "SEE" (i.e. Preview) a report you have to make the Access
window (MDI) visible again
I do this in the onclick of the 'launching' command button for the report or
in the load
Events of the report. Then when the report is closed I have code in the
Unload to make the MDI hidden again

I like the look of the hidden MDI and it really suits my purposes, you just
have to put up with
The hide, unhide aerobics if you want to keep hiding the MDI for forms.

If I am mistaken about the MDI and previewing reports I am sure someone from
the list will let me know

See ya 

DD

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2004 8:14 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window

Yes, I have created the menu as and a toolbar as Jim had also suggested and
assigned their names in the property window for the form and cannot see
either of them when I open it. Am I missing another step?
 
Thanks Charlotte.
 
Bobby, Right Click dosen't work in this case with the HideWindow code.
 
Thanks to all so far.

Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
Have you created a shortcut menu for the report?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Can't you right-click and choose Print?

Bobby

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:10 PM
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access;
AccessD solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,

I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just
shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)

Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As
Long) As Long Dim dwReturn As Long Const SW_HIDE = 0 Const SW_SHOWNORMAL
= 1 Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....

It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview
reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?

I know there is an answer out there somewhere!

Thanks in advance.



May God bless you beyond your imagination!
Lonnie Johnson
ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Tue Nov  2 15:59:34 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 14:59:34 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Locked form w/editable subform?
Message-ID: <112490-220041122215934514@christopherhawkins.com>

Suppose you have frmMain and frmSub.

frmMain is (duh) the main form and frmSub is the SourceObject of
subform control sFrm on frmMain.

How can I set frmMain.AllowEdits to False and still have frmSub
behave as though it's .AllowEdit property is set to True?  Right now,
as soon as I change the setting for frmMain, it takes frmSub along
with it.




Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com




From stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz  Tue Nov  2 15:40:46 2004
From: stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz (Stephen Bond)
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 10:40:46 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] SQL Tables vs. Access Tables
Message-ID: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F298FDA@server.bondsoftware.co.nz>

Arthur, are these the sort of things covered in the Harkins/Reid book ...?

Stephen Bond


> 
> 3. Many of the things that we are comfortable in doing in Access are 
> quite the wrong approach with SQL Server, in terms of best practices. 
> This part cannot be communicated in a simple email message, but in 
> general it reduces to this: the old practice of binding forms 
> to tables 
> is all wrong. 
> 


From JHewson at karta.com  Tue Nov  2 16:09:03 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 16:09:03 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Locked form w/editable subform?
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068C6D@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

Could you set each control's Enabled and Locked property to No and Yes.
That essentially, makes the form uneditable but allows the subform to function normally.

Jim

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Hawkins
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 4:00 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Locked form w/editable subform?


Suppose you have frmMain and frmSub.

frmMain is (duh) the main form and frmSub is the SourceObject of
subform control sFrm on frmMain.

How can I set frmMain.AllowEdits to False and still have frmSub
behave as though it's .AllowEdit property is set to True?  Right now,
as soon as I change the setting for frmMain, it takes frmSub along
with it.




Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com


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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Nov  2 16:09:35 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 08:09:35 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Locked form w/editable subform?
In-Reply-To: <112490-220041122215934514@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <4188923F.15285.E66FFC3@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 2 Nov 2004 at 14:59, Christopher Hawkins wrote:

> Suppose you have frmMain and frmSub.
> 
> frmMain is (duh) the main form and frmSub is the SourceObject of
> subform control sFrm on frmMain.
> 
> How can I set frmMain.AllowEdits to False and still have frmSub
> behave as though it's .AllowEdit property is set to True?  Right now,
> as soon as I change the setting for frmMain, it takes frmSub along
> with it.
> 

You could set all the fields on frmMain to Enabled and Locked
or set the AllowEdits explicitly in code on_load.



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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Nov  2 16:22:11 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 14:22:11 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Locked form w/editable subform?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B35@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Don't set allowEdits to false on frmMain, only on frmSub.  On frmMain,
have a routine that loops through the data controls and locks them
unless you already have them locked by default in design view.  The
subform control gets locked along with the rest by AllowEdits.

Charlotte Foust


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From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 2:00 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Locked form w/editable subform?


Suppose you have frmMain and frmSub.

frmMain is (duh) the main form and frmSub is the SourceObject of subform
control sFrm on frmMain.

How can I set frmMain.AllowEdits to False and still have frmSub behave
as though it's .AllowEdit property is set to True?  Right now, as soon
as I change the setting for frmMain, it takes frmSub along with it.




Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Nov  2 16:20:34 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 17:20:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Locked form w/editable subform?
In-Reply-To: <112490-220041122215934514@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <001001c4c12a$2f9d4640$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

It happens at load time of the subform.  You can manipulate the subform
properties after load, or you can leave the main form editable until after
load then set that to allow edits false.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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Hawkins
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 5:00 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Locked form w/editable subform?


Suppose you have frmMain and frmSub.

frmMain is (duh) the main form and frmSub is the SourceObject of subform
control sFrm on frmMain.

How can I set frmMain.AllowEdits to False and still have frmSub behave as
though it's .AllowEdit property is set to True?  Right now, as soon as I
change the setting for frmMain, it takes frmSub along with it.




Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
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http://www.christopherhawkins.com


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From chris at piasd.org  Tue Nov  2 16:46:30 2004
From: chris at piasd.org (Chris Kettenbach)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 14:46:30 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Insert Into query help
Message-ID: <2F7BA03C93D17D48B13C42228C8FDAF2785686@server.domain.local>

Using Access 2000, what is wrong with this syntax?

INSERT INTO Activity (
IDType, ID, ProjectID, ComponentID, SubComponentID, ProcessDate )
VALUES (
'Employee', SELECT EmployeeID FROM tbl1104Mess , 6, 28,341, #11/02/04#
)

The desired result is to place 1 record into Activity for each 1 record in
tbl1104Mess.
With all the literal values and the EmployeeID from tbl1104Mess.  I get an
error when I execute this statement.  Thanks for any feedback.

Regards,
Chris




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Nov  2 17:01:23 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 18:01:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] SQL Tables vs. Access Tables
In-Reply-To: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F298FDA@server.bondsoftware.co.nz>
Message-ID: <20041102230156.KLAP2398.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Stephen, I can't remember if you'll find an actual comparison in the books,
but this might help:

http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-6313_11-5034390.html?tag=search

Martin did a thorough job of discussing the SQL Server objects in the book,
so I'm sure what you need is there, I'm just not sure it's in the form of
comparison. 

Susan H. 

Arthur, are these the sort of things covered in the Harkins/Reid book ...?





From chris at piasd.org  Tue Nov  2 17:12:04 2004
From: chris at piasd.org (Chris Kettenbach)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 15:12:04 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Insert Into query help
Message-ID: <2F7BA03C93D17D48B13C42228C8FDAF280109F@server.domain.local>

I figured it out.  I went this direction.

INSERT INTO Activity(IDType, ID, ProjectID, ComponentID, SubComponentID, ProcessDate)
SELECT "Employee" as IDType, EmployeeID as ID, "6" as ProjectID, "28" as ComponentID,
           "341" as SubComponentID, "11/02/04" as ProcessDate FROM tbl1104Mess

Worked brilliantly! Thanks for reading

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Kettenbach
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 2:47 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Insert Into query help


Using Access 2000, what is wrong with this syntax?

INSERT INTO Activity (
IDType, ID, ProjectID, ComponentID, SubComponentID, ProcessDate )
VALUES (
'Employee', SELECT EmployeeID FROM tbl1104Mess , 6, 28,341, #11/02/04#
)

The desired result is to place 1 record into Activity for each 1 record in
tbl1104Mess.
With all the literal values and the EmployeeID from tbl1104Mess.  I get an
error when I execute this statement.  Thanks for any feedback.

Regards,
Chris


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From mnptl at sonmedia.com  Tue Nov  2 20:11:11 2004
From: mnptl at sonmedia.com (mnptl at sonmedia.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 21:11:11 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [AccessD] "ApplyFilter" hassles
Message-ID: <36008.10.235.219.133.1099447871.webmail@10.235.219.133>

Using Access 2002 ? but saving my application in Access 2000 format - I
have been busily creating a form with a bunch of sub forms.  Each sub form
is populated from a field in the main form (e.g. SELECT tbl_Names.* where
tbl_Names.Ref_Dept = frm_Main.cmb_Dept).  This all worked fine on the
machine where I?m busy developing it.

I copied the app across to the target machine ? which uses Access 2000 ?
and tried to run it.  Whenever it encounters one of these sub forms, I
receive an error 4288 - "You can't use the ApplyFilter action on this
window."

This would be a useful message 
 if it weren?t for the fact that I?m not
using the ApplyFilter action ? ANYWHERE!

Anyone seen this before?  Anything I need to be aware of that can fix this?






From handyman at actcom.co.il  Tue Nov  2 21:12:50 2004
From: handyman at actcom.co.il (handyman at actcom.co.il)
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 05:12:50 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Caller ID and Access
In-Reply-To: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B54C5@stekelbes.ithelps.l ocal>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041103050915.03b0b080@pop5.actcom.net.il>

I use a dsl line, but have a separate modem for the phone line.  I tried 
out the callaudit program from Mountain Systems, and it seems to have all 
the features I need.  I just have to work on integrating it with my 
appliaction.

I would have preferred to put this straight into my application, but why 
reinvent the wheel :)

Thanks

gm

At 10:12 PM, 11/2/2004 +0100, you wrote:
>If you have ISDN you gonna need a ISDN card with CAPI support.
>There is some VB code out there to use CAPI in access.
>I have such an Access DB that use a CAPI control for wich the VB code
>was available.
>
>Dont know the website anymore, it was several years ago.
>
>This only works with ISDN and a CAPI supported card like Eicon
>
>Erwin
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
>handyman at actcom.co.il
>Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 6:08 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Caller ID and Access
>
>Thanks!
>
>This program from Mountain Systems seems to do a lot of the stuff I
>want.
>Since it stores all information in an Access database, I can just
>integrate it with my database with some work.
>
>Thanks again!
>
>gm
>
>   At 11:00 AM, 11/1/2004 -0800, you wrote:
> > From a few years back
> >You will have to use TAPI, your modem need's to support caller ID Ughh,
>
> >you are in Italy so you may have to check the format of caller id North
>
> >America had half a dozen standards from the various Telco's in Mid 90's
>
> >It was a mess.
> >It is essentially about 55 bytes of data being  sent between the first
> >and second  ring of the phone It can be more data, there are a couple
> >of formats some included the callers name and blocking info in addition
>
> >to the number.
> >I can't remember if there is now an established ISO standard I did this
>
> >back in 99.
> >
> >What I would do is try the trial version of Mountain Sys on your
> >telephone system and modem It is only $15 a client, but you could roll
> >your own code via Tapi after getting a format from your Telco but maybe
>
> >they have standardized format  by now in Italy.
> >
> >  Companies that seem to handle callerid connections to Access.
> >
> >   Mountain Systems   http://www.mtnsys.com
> >
> >    CallAudit Software has sample Access 97 & 95 database with
> >      trial software that connects thru DDE.
> >
> >   There are a lot of others.
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> >   From Mountain System FAQ buried in there
> >
> >How to Test a MODEM for Caller ID Support Caveats.
> >
> >Necessary equipment
> >
> >   * Caller ID Service From your local telephone company
> >   * A Voice MODEM or hardware device that supports Caller ID
> >
> >
> >  Just about every MODEM disables Caller ID as the default.
> >
> >  For most MODEMs, the string AT#CID=1 or AT#CLS=8#CID=1 will enable
> >   Caller ID.
> >  If Caller ID is not working, you will only see the word RING for
> > each incoming ring.
> >
> >   The most common result, when Caller ID data works, is the following:
> >
> >     RING
> >
> >     DATE = xxxxx
> >
> >     TIME = xxxx
> >
> >     NMBR = xxxxxxxxx
> >
> >     NAME = xxxxxxxx
> >
> >     RING
> >
> >     RING &#133;
> >
> >   There are other formats as well. The key point is that other data
> >   generally appears between the first and second rings.
> >
> >   Some telephone companies, especially in Canada, ship Caller ID data
>in
> >   different formats, Check the software handles this.
> >
> >  TAPI support for Caller ID was added after Windows 95 was released.
> >  Microsoft has an updated version of UniModemV on their Web page that
>
> > includes Caller ID support. The .INF file for your MODEM also needs to
>
> > modified to take advantage of this support, and some modems do not
> > yet have this capability.
> >
> >  Windows NT 3.X does not include any support for TAPI. Although
> >Windows
> >  NT 4.0 does.
> >handyman at actcom.co.il wrote:
> >
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>I'm interested in somehow retrieving a CallerID number from my modem,
> >>and then displaying the caller's information(taken from my database)
> >>on screen.  Has anyone ever done anything like this, or can point me
> >>in the right direction
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>
> >>Gershon Markowitz
> >>mailto:Handyman at actcom.co.il
> >
> >--
> >Marty Connelly
> >Victoria, B.C.
> >Canada
> >
> >
> >
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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Wed Nov  3 01:39:20 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 23:39:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] CheckDate?
In-Reply-To: <17619718283.20041102141952@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20041103073920.69473.qmail@web61106.mail.yahoo.com>

Doh! I tested the function with 29 februari 2004......however 2004 is a schrikkeljaar :-) what's the English word for it??
Thanx!

Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
Hi Sander

> However, I added some extra checks to rule out 'impossible dates'
> like 29,30 or 31 februari, 31 november, etc.

Well, that's the point - IsDate() checks that as well!
Both IsDate("31-11-xxxx") and IsDate("11-31-xxxx") will fail.

/gustav

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From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Wed Nov  3 02:21:56 2004
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 08:21:56 -0000 
Subject: [AccessD] CheckDate?
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C434@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>

I think the English (UK version) is leap year!

366 days rather than 365 right?

Regards
Chris Foote

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> From: S D [mailto:accessd667 at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 7:39 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] CheckDate?
> 
> 
> Doh! I tested the function with 29 februari 2004......however 
> 2004 is a schrikkeljaar :-) what's the English word for it??
> Thanx!
> 
> Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi Sander
> 
> > However, I added some extra checks to rule out 'impossible dates'
> > like 29,30 or 31 februari, 31 november, etc.
> 
> Well, that's the point - IsDate() checks that as well!
> Both IsDate("31-11-xxxx") and IsDate("11-31-xxxx") will fail.
> 
> /gustav
> 
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov  3 03:34:27 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:34:27 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Time Synchronization
In-Reply-To: <35609.10.235.219.133.1099417163.webmail@10.235.219.133>
References: <35609.10.235.219.133.1099417163.webmail@10.235.219.133>
Message-ID: <766737608.20041103103427@cactus.dk>

Hi Mark

You can use an ActiveX control for this:

http://www.universalthread.com/wconnect/wc.dll?FournierTransformation~

"Synchronize your client machine or just the software itself by
retrieving the highly accurate time from time servers [..] This is
accurate to the millisecond range so a large use is for Timestamping
of information independent of the local CPU clock."

Or use the winsock ocx. Here's some VB code you probably can adapt:

http://www.freevbcode.com/ShowCode.asp?ID=1594

/gustav


> Date: 2004-11-02 18:39

> Does anyone know of any VBA code to be placed within an Access application
> that can easily poll an Internet-based time server, and return that time
> to a variable?  Searching through the archives hasn't come up with
> naything ... yet ...

> Thanks,

> Mark Naud?



From Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk  Wed Nov  3 05:11:32 2004
From: Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk (Paul Rodgers)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 11:11:32 -0000 
Subject: [AccessD] SQL Tables vs. Access Tables
Message-ID: <EAF3070ACB1AD81182280002A51EF731192314@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>

Thanks, Arthur, that's helped me too. 

Cheers

paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com]
Sent: 02 November 2004 18:41
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL Tables vs. Access Tables


Joe Hecht wrote:

>I may be picking up an assignment that sounds like an Access front end into
>SQL tables. I am waiting to hear from the project manager for the more
>details you all will ask me for.
>
>Is there any major difference between access tables and SQL tables I should
>be aware of?
>
>I think I do good table design, normalization and naming conventions.
>
>thanks
>
>Joe Hecht
>jmhla at earthlink.net
>28g
>
>
>  
>
I would suggest the following:

1. Design it in Access, where you're comfortable. Then use the upsizing 
wizard to move it to SS when you're ready. Make sure that every ...

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From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Wed Nov  3 05:15:56 2004
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 11:15:56 -0000 
Subject: [AccessD] Time Synchronization
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C436@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>

Fair enough Mark!

Looks like Gustav has the answer though!

Good luck, please let me/us know how you get on.

Best regards!
Chris Foote

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mnptl at sonmedia.com [mailto:mnptl at sonmedia.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 8:21 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Time Synchronization
> 
> 
> Hi Chris - yes, TECHNICALLY that would be a lot easier!  PROCEDURALLY,
> that could take months!  I'm currently assisting a 
> pharmaceutical company
> with ensuring that they meet all FDA regulations, especially those
> concerning electronic records.
> 
> The concept of handling their time synchronization in a 
> centralized way is
> somewhat new, and will have to go up the chain of command to 
> head office,
> mulled over, a policy put in place, local IT procedures 
> created, and then
> the technical controls instituted...  a very long process.
> 
> I was hoping that there was something similar to:
> 
> command.com /c net time \\<servername> /set /y
> 
> that could use for synchronizing the local machine's time to 
> a "standard"
> clock available on the Internet, such as NIST.  I tried the 
> command above
> with:
> 
> command.com /c net time \\129.6.15.28 /set /y
> 
> ... (which is one of the NIST time server IP addresses) but with no
> success.  It CAN be used for synchronizing with the back-end 
> server, but I
> was hoping for something more thorough!
> 
> Let me know if you know of any other way.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Foote, Chris" <Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com>
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Time Synchronization
> 
> Hi Mark!
> 
> Would it not be easier to synch the clock on the host machine 
> with a NTP
> server and then get that via Date() Time() etc?
> 
> Or does the time function need to be totally encapsulated in 
> the Access app?
> 
> Regards!
> Chris Foote


From JHewson at karta.com  Wed Nov  3 07:18:24 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 07:18:24 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] "ApplyFilter" hassles
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068C6E@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>


Not sure if this will help...
When ever I modify an A2K file (except data entry) using AXP, it never seems to work correctly.
When developing in A2K, in my experience, you must use A2K.
My suggestion is to open the file in A2K, make a few minor changes, then save it to see if that corrects the problem.  If not, import all objects into a new container.
 
Jim

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mnptl at sonmedia.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 8:11 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] "ApplyFilter" hassles


Using Access 2002 - but saving my application in Access 2000 format - I
have been busily creating a form with a bunch of sub forms.  Each sub form
is populated from a field in the main form (e.g. SELECT tbl_Names.* where
tbl_Names.Ref_Dept = frm_Main.cmb_Dept).  This all worked fine on the
machine where I'm busy developing it.

I copied the app across to the target machine - which uses Access 2000 -
and tried to run it.  Whenever it encounters one of these sub forms, I
receive an error 4288 - "You can't use the ApplyFilter action on this
window."

This would be a useful message ... if it weren't for the fact that I'm not
using the ApplyFilter action - ANYWHERE!

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From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Wed Nov  3 08:36:44 2004
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 06:36:44 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
In-Reply-To: <200411022154.iA2LsDXH006088@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <20041103143644.16433.qmail@web20424.mail.yahoo.com>

Thanks DD, Charlotte and Jim.
 
I may consider using the process of unhiding the Access MDI when viewing a report. The only thing I didn't like when I tested it is that they have the (X) to close the application. 
The user may mistake this X as the one to close the report. In the form that they use they have to close the app with a button. Anyway, thanks again everyone. You've all earned the rank of Guru in my books.

Darren DICK <d.dick at uws.edu.au> wrote:
Hi Lonnie
I use this code all the time too.
When you want to "SEE" (i.e. Preview) a report you have to make the Access
window (MDI) visible again
I do this in the onclick of the 'launching' command button for the report or
in the load
Events of the report. Then when the report is closed I have code in the
Unload to make the MDI hidden again

I like the look of the hidden MDI and it really suits my purposes, you just
have to put up with
The hide, unhide aerobics if you want to keep hiding the MDI for forms.

If I am mistaken about the MDI and previewing reports I am sure someone from
the list will let me know

See ya 

DD

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2004 8:14 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window

Yes, I have created the menu as and a toolbar as Jim had also suggested and
assigned their names in the property window for the form and cannot see
either of them when I open it. Am I missing another step?

Thanks Charlotte.

Bobby, Right Click dosen't work in this case with the HideWindow code.

Thanks to all so far.

Charlotte Foust wrote:
Have you created a shortcut menu for the report?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Can't you right-click and choose Print?

Bobby

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Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:10 PM
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access;
AccessD solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,

I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just
shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)

Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As
Long) As Long Dim dwReturn As Long Const SW_HIDE = 0 Const SW_SHOWNORMAL
= 1 Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....

It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview
reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?

I know there is an answer out there somewhere!

Thanks in advance.



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From JColby at dispec.com  Wed Nov  3 09:22:48 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:22:48 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] What is App.hInstance in Access
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF94D@DISABILITYINS01>

In looking over the time sync stuff I found a class and module to replace
the winsock OCX control.  It has a call:

    p_lngWindowHandle = CreateWindowEx(0&, "STATIC", "SOCKET_WINDOW", 0&,
0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, App.hInstance, ByVal 0&)

which fails on App.hInstance.  I'm assuming that this is a handle to the
application window.  Is there an equivelent in VBA?  I think I solved that
one by:

    p_lngWindowHandle = CreateWindowEx(0&, "STATIC", "SOCKET_WINDOW", 0&,
0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, Application.hWndAccessApp, ByVal 0&)

However I am now getting a compile error on:

    m_lngResolveMessage = RegisterWindowMessage(App.EXEName &
".ResolveMessage")

There is no apparent equivelent property in the Application object.  Does
anyone know what I would use here?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 4:34 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Time Synchronization


Hi Mark

You can use an ActiveX control for this:

http://www.universalthread.com/wconnect/wc.dll?FournierTransformation~

"Synchronize your client machine or just the software itself by
retrieving the highly accurate time from time servers [..] This is
accurate to the millisecond range so a large use is for Timestamping
of information independent of the local CPU clock."

Or use the winsock ocx. Here's some VB code you probably can adapt:

http://www.freevbcode.com/ShowCode.asp?ID=1594

/gustav


> Date: 2004-11-02 18:39

> Does anyone know of any VBA code to be placed within an Access application
> that can easily poll an Internet-based time server, and return that time
> to a variable?  Searching through the archives hasn't come up with
> naything ... yet ...

> Thanks,

> Mark Naud?

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From Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com  Wed Nov  3 09:21:57 2004
From: Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com (Lavsa, Rich)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:21:57 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
Message-ID: <2A261FF9D5EBCA46940C11688CE872EE03AABD@goexchange2.pghcorning.com>

Just a thought, I would think you could put code in the unload or close
event of the report to prompt the user if they want to print the report.  If
they select yes, then the report prints to their default printer.  If that
is not feasible to have them only print to their default printer, you can
programmatically simulate the printer setup that is available in the
file-->Print option.  To do this I might use the form and code from
Microsoft's demo which is on the following link to give you some ideas or a
even a fast head start.. 

I just happened to be looking for some ideas on "change printer from VBA"
and came across this page on Microsoft's site which might give you some
options on the close event of the report.. 
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnacc2k2/ht
ml/ODC_acc10_Printers.asp

Keep us posted if it works out for you or if it even sounds like it could
work,
Rich

-----Original Message-----
From: Lonnie Johnson [mailto:prodevmg at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 9:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Thanks DD, Charlotte and Jim.
 
I may consider using the process of unhiding the Access MDI when viewing a
report. The only thing I didn't like when I tested it is that they have the
(X) to close the application. 
The user may mistake this X as the one to close the report. In the form that
they use they have to close the app with a button. Anyway, thanks again
everyone. You've all earned the rank of Guru in my books.

Darren DICK <d.dick at uws.edu.au> wrote:
Hi Lonnie
I use this code all the time too.
When you want to "SEE" (i.e. Preview) a report you have to make the Access
window (MDI) visible again I do this in the onclick of the 'launching'
command button for the report or in the load Events of the report. Then when
the report is closed I have code in the Unload to make the MDI hidden again

I like the look of the hidden MDI and it really suits my purposes, you just
have to put up with The hide, unhide aerobics if you want to keep hiding the
MDI for forms.

If I am mistaken about the MDI and previewing reports I am sure someone from
the list will let me know

See ya 

DD

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2004 8:14 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window

Yes, I have created the menu as and a toolbar as Jim had also suggested and
assigned their names in the property window for the form and cannot see
either of them when I open it. Am I missing another step?

Thanks Charlotte.

Bobby, Right Click dosen't work in this case with the HideWindow code.

Thanks to all so far.

Charlotte Foust wrote:
Have you created a shortcut menu for the report?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Can't you right-click and choose Print?

Bobby

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:10 PM
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access; AccessD
solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,

I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just shows
a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)

Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As
Long) As Long Dim dwReturn As Long Const SW_HIDE = 0 Const SW_SHOWNORMAL = 1
Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....

It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview reports.
However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?

I know there is an answer out there somewhere!

Thanks in advance.



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From CMackin at quiznos.com  Wed Nov  3 09:25:16 2004
From: CMackin at quiznos.com (Mackin, Christopher)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 08:25:16 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
Message-ID: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27F0C2@snowmass.quiznos.net>

You can always have a hidden form that processes the click on the "X" to close the application as a command to close the report.  The methodology to prevent the ap from closing has been discussed extensively in the archives, just add some code to that to close the currently visible report and you should be OK.

-Chris Mackin

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 7:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Thanks DD, Charlotte and Jim.
 
I may consider using the process of unhiding the Access MDI when viewing a report. The only thing I didn't like when I tested it is that they have the (X) to close the application. 
The user may mistake this X as the one to close the report. In the form that they use they have to close the app with a button. Anyway, thanks again everyone. You've all earned the rank of Guru in my books.

Darren DICK <d.dick at uws.edu.au> wrote:
Hi Lonnie
I use this code all the time too.
When you want to "SEE" (i.e. Preview) a report you have to make the Access
window (MDI) visible again
I do this in the onclick of the 'launching' command button for the report or
in the load
Events of the report. Then when the report is closed I have code in the
Unload to make the MDI hidden again

I like the look of the hidden MDI and it really suits my purposes, you just
have to put up with
The hide, unhide aerobics if you want to keep hiding the MDI for forms.

If I am mistaken about the MDI and previewing reports I am sure someone from
the list will let me know

See ya 

DD

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2004 8:14 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window

Yes, I have created the menu as and a toolbar as Jim had also suggested and
assigned their names in the property window for the form and cannot see
either of them when I open it. Am I missing another step?

Thanks Charlotte.

Bobby, Right Click dosen't work in this case with the HideWindow code.

Thanks to all so far.

Charlotte Foust wrote:
Have you created a shortcut menu for the report?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Can't you right-click and choose Print?

Bobby

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie
Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:10 PM
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access;
AccessD solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,

I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just
shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)

Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As
Long) As Long Dim dwReturn As Long Const SW_HIDE = 0 Const SW_SHOWNORMAL
= 1 Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....

It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview
reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?

I know there is an answer out there somewhere!

Thanks in advance.



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From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Wed Nov  3 10:29:55 2004
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 08:29:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
In-Reply-To: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27F0C2@snowmass.quiznos.net>
Message-ID: <20041103162955.94164.qmail@web20428.mail.yahoo.com>

Christopher, 
 
I am a completely happily married heterosexual man but want to say I LOVE YOU. I am going to try that. I'll look in the archives for that code.

"Mackin, Christopher" <CMackin at quiznos.com> wrote:
You can always have a hidden form that processes the click on the "X" to close the application as a command to close the report. The methodology to prevent the ap from closing has been discussed extensively in the archives, just add some code to that to close the currently visible report and you should be OK.

-Chris Mackin

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 7:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Thanks DD, Charlotte and Jim.

I may consider using the process of unhiding the Access MDI when viewing a report. The only thing I didn't like when I tested it is that they have the (X) to close the application. 
The user may mistake this X as the one to close the report. In the form that they use they have to close the app with a button. Anyway, thanks again everyone. You've all earned the rank of Guru in my books.

Darren DICK wrote:
Hi Lonnie
I use this code all the time too.
When you want to "SEE" (i.e. Preview) a report you have to make the Access
window (MDI) visible again
I do this in the onclick of the 'launching' command button for the report or
in the load
Events of the report. Then when the report is closed I have code in the
Unload to make the MDI hidden again

I like the look of the hidden MDI and it really suits my purposes, you just
have to put up with
The hide, unhide aerobics if you want to keep hiding the MDI for forms.

If I am mistaken about the MDI and previewing reports I am sure someone from
the list will let me know

See ya 

DD

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2004 8:14 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window

Yes, I have created the menu as and a toolbar as Jim had also suggested and
assigned their names in the property window for the form and cannot see
either of them when I open it. Am I missing another step?

Thanks Charlotte.

Bobby, Right Click dosen't work in this case with the HideWindow code.

Thanks to all so far.

Charlotte Foust wrote:
Have you created a shortcut menu for the report?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Can't you right-click and choose Print?

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie
Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:10 PM
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access;
AccessD solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,

I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just
shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)

Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As
Long) As Long Dim dwReturn As Long Const SW_HIDE = 0 Const SW_SHOWNORMAL
= 1 Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....

It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview
reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?

I know there is an answer out there somewhere!

Thanks in advance.



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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Nov  3 10:30:06 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 08:30:06 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] "ApplyFilter" hassles
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B38@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I think that depends on what you do with it.  I normally work in 2002
and have never had a problem running the app in 2000 unless I used
XP-specific objects, etc., in my code.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Hewson [mailto:JHewson at karta.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 5:18 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] "ApplyFilter" hassles



Not sure if this will help...
When ever I modify an A2K file (except data entry) using AXP, it never
seems to work correctly. When developing in A2K, in my experience, you
must use A2K. My suggestion is to open the file in A2K, make a few minor
changes, then save it to see if that corrects the problem.  If not,
import all objects into a new container.
 
Jim

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mnptl at sonmedia.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 8:11 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] "ApplyFilter" hassles


Using Access 2002 - but saving my application in Access 2000 format - I
have been busily creating a form with a bunch of sub forms.  Each sub
form is populated from a field in the main form (e.g. SELECT tbl_Names.*
where tbl_Names.Ref_Dept = frm_Main.cmb_Dept).  This all worked fine on
the machine where I'm busy developing it.

I copied the app across to the target machine - which uses Access 2000 -
and tried to run it.  Whenever it encounters one of these sub forms, I
receive an error 4288 - "You can't use the ApplyFilter action on this
window."

This would be a useful message ... if it weren't for the fact that I'm
not using the ApplyFilter action - ANYWHERE!

Anyone seen this before?  Anything I need to be aware of that can fix
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Nov  3 10:33:19 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 08:33:19 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] "ApplyFilter" hassles
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B39@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I don't understand why you're filtering the subforms that way instead of
using the master and child links.  That would eliminate the "filter"
aspect entirely.  

Charlotte Foust


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Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 6:11 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] "ApplyFilter" hassles


Using Access 2002 - but saving my application in Access 2000 format - I
have been busily creating a form with a bunch of sub forms.  Each sub
form is populated from a field in the main form (e.g. SELECT tbl_Names.*
where tbl_Names.Ref_Dept = frm_Main.cmb_Dept).  This all worked fine on
the machine where I'm busy developing it.

I copied the app across to the target machine - which uses Access 2000 -
and tried to run it.  Whenever it encounters one of these sub forms, I
receive an error 4288 - "You can't use the ApplyFilter action on this
window."

This would be a useful message ... if it weren't for the fact that I'm
not using the ApplyFilter action - ANYWHERE!

Anyone seen this before?  Anything I need to be aware of that can fix
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From JColby at dispec.com  Wed Nov  3 10:41:55 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 11:41:55 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF94F@DISABILITYINS01>

Hmm... do we need a Lonely Hearts list?  ;-)

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 11:30 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Christopher, 
 
I am a completely happily married heterosexual man but want to say I LOVE
YOU. I am going to try that. I'll look in the archives for that code.

"Mackin, Christopher" <CMackin at quiznos.com> wrote:
You can always have a hidden form that processes the click on the "X" to
close the application as a command to close the report. The methodology to
prevent the ap from closing has been discussed extensively in the archives,
just add some code to that to close the currently visible report and you
should be OK.

-Chris Mackin

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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 7:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Thanks DD, Charlotte and Jim.

I may consider using the process of unhiding the Access MDI when viewing a
report. The only thing I didn't like when I tested it is that they have the
(X) to close the application. 
The user may mistake this X as the one to close the report. In the form that
they use they have to close the app with a button. Anyway, thanks again
everyone. You've all earned the rank of Guru in my books.

Darren DICK wrote:
Hi Lonnie
I use this code all the time too.
When you want to "SEE" (i.e. Preview) a report you have to make the Access
window (MDI) visible again
I do this in the onclick of the 'launching' command button for the report or
in the load
Events of the report. Then when the report is closed I have code in the
Unload to make the MDI hidden again

I like the look of the hidden MDI and it really suits my purposes, you just
have to put up with
The hide, unhide aerobics if you want to keep hiding the MDI for forms.

If I am mistaken about the MDI and previewing reports I am sure someone from
the list will let me know

See ya 

DD

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2004 8:14 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window

Yes, I have created the menu as and a toolbar as Jim had also suggested and
assigned their names in the property window for the form and cannot see
either of them when I open it. Am I missing another step?

Thanks Charlotte.

Bobby, Right Click dosen't work in this case with the HideWindow code.

Thanks to all so far.

Charlotte Foust wrote:
Have you created a shortcut menu for the report?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Can't you right-click and choose Print?

Bobby

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie
Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:10 PM
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access;
AccessD solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,

I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just
shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)

Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As
Long) As Long Dim dwReturn As Long Const SW_HIDE = 0 Const SW_SHOWNORMAL
= 1 Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....

It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview
reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?

I know there is an answer out there somewhere!

Thanks in advance.



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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Wed Nov  3 11:05:38 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 11:05:38 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] What is App.hInstance in Access
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB0865318D88@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

No, that parameter refers to the parent instance handle, not the window
handle.

However, according to MSDN, this value is ignored in Windows NT/2000/XP,
so you could just put 0& in its place.

If you wish to cater to the elite Windows 95/98/ME crowd, you need to
use the following code to get the Instance handle from the Application
window:

Private Const GWL_HINSTANCE = (-6)

Private Declare Function GetWindowLong Lib "user32" _
  Alias "GetWindowLongA" (ByVal hwnd As Long, ByVal nIndex As Long) As
Long

GetWindowLong(hWndAccessApp, GWL_HINSTANCE)


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 9:23 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] What is App.hInstance in Access

In looking over the time sync stuff I found a class and module to
replace the winsock OCX control.  It has a call:

    p_lngWindowHandle = CreateWindowEx(0&, "STATIC", "SOCKET_WINDOW",
0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, App.hInstance, ByVal 0&)

which fails on App.hInstance.  I'm assuming that this is a handle to the
application window.  Is there an equivelent in VBA?  I think I solved
that one by:

    p_lngWindowHandle = CreateWindowEx(0&, "STATIC", "SOCKET_WINDOW",
0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, Application.hWndAccessApp, ByVal 0&)

However I am now getting a compile error on:

    m_lngResolveMessage = RegisterWindowMessage(App.EXEName &
".ResolveMessage")

There is no apparent equivelent property in the Application object.
Does anyone know what I would use here?

John W. Colby
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Nov  3 11:13:39 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 09:13:39 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B3B@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Isn't that what OT is for? <innocent>

Charlotte Foust


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From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:42 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hmm... do we need a Lonely Hearts list?  ;-)

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


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From: Lonnie Johnson [mailto:prodevmg at yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 11:30 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Christopher, 
 
I am a completely happily married heterosexual man but want to say I
LOVE YOU. I am going to try that. I'll look in the archives for that
code.

"Mackin, Christopher" <CMackin at quiznos.com> wrote:
You can always have a hidden form that processes the click on the "X" to
close the application as a command to close the report. The methodology
to prevent the ap from closing has been discussed extensively in the
archives, just add some code to that to close the currently visible
report and you should be OK.

-Chris Mackin

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 7:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Thanks DD, Charlotte and Jim.

I may consider using the process of unhiding the Access MDI when viewing
a report. The only thing I didn't like when I tested it is that they
have the
(X) to close the application. 
The user may mistake this X as the one to close the report. In the form
that they use they have to close the app with a button. Anyway, thanks
again everyone. You've all earned the rank of Guru in my books.

Darren DICK wrote:
Hi Lonnie
I use this code all the time too.
When you want to "SEE" (i.e. Preview) a report you have to make the
Access window (MDI) visible again I do this in the onclick of the
'launching' command button for the report or in the load Events of the
report. Then when the report is closed I have code in the Unload to make
the MDI hidden again

I like the look of the hidden MDI and it really suits my purposes, you
just have to put up with The hide, unhide aerobics if you want to keep
hiding the MDI for forms.

If I am mistaken about the MDI and previewing reports I am sure someone
from the list will let me know

See ya 

DD

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie
Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2004 8:14 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window

Yes, I have created the menu as and a toolbar as Jim had also suggested
and assigned their names in the property window for the form and cannot
see either of them when I open it. Am I missing another step?

Thanks Charlotte.

Bobby, Right Click dosen't work in this case with the HideWindow code.

Thanks to all so far.

Charlotte Foust wrote:
Have you created a shortcut menu for the report?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Can't you right-click and choose Print?

Bobby

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie
Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:10 PM
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access;
AccessD solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,

I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just
shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)

Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As
Long) As Long Dim dwReturn As Long Const SW_HIDE = 0 Const SW_SHOWNORMAL
= 1 Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....

It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview
reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?

I know there is an answer out there somewhere!

Thanks in advance.



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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Nov  3 11:15:09 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:15:09 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] What is App.hInstance in Access
References: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF94D@DISABILITYINS01>
Message-ID: <4189121D.1050202@shaw.ca>

If you want the Access Application window handle

'You can use the Windows API GetWindow function to retrieve the handle
'of your application's window with the statement:
'    CurrWnd = GetWindow(Form1.hwnd, GW_HWNDFIRST)
' To use in Access replace with the following
'     parent_hwnd = FindWindow(vbNullString, "Microsoft Access")
'The first argument of the GetWindow function is the handle of the window
'that is at the top of the z-order. In this case, this is the handle of 
'Form1

 Here is some code I use to get  Task List handles
Maybe you can get something out of it.

'_______________________________________________________


Private Const VK_LWIN = &H5B 'Left window button
Private Const VK_RETURN = &HD  'ENTER key
Private Const VK_SHIFT = &H10 'SHIFT key
Private Const VK_CONTROL = &H11 'CTRL key
Private Const VK_MENU = &H12 'ALT key
Private Const VK_PAUSE = &H13 'PAUSE key
Private Const VK_CAPITAL = &H14 'CAPS LOCK key
Private Const VK_SNAPSHOT = &H2C  'Print Screen
Private Const VK_APPS = &H5D
         'Applications key on a Microsoft Natural Keyboard
'from http://support.microsoft.com/view/dev.asp?kb=242971

Const GW_HWNDFIRST = 0
Const GW_HWNDNEXT = 2
Private Const KEYEVENTF_KEYUP = &H2

Private Declare Sub keybd_event Lib "user32" (ByVal bVk As Byte, _
    ByVal bScan As Byte, ByVal dwflags As Long, ByVal dwExtraInfo As Long)
Private Declare Function GetWindow Lib "user32" _
   (ByVal hwnd As Long, ByVal wCmd As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function GetParent Lib "user32" _
   (ByVal hwnd As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function GetWindowTextLength Lib _
   "user32" Alias "GetWindowTextLengthA" (ByVal hwnd As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function GetWindowText Lib "user32" _
   Alias "GetWindowTextA" (ByVal hwnd As Long, ByVal _
   lpString As String, ByVal cch As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function FindWindow Lib "user32" Alias "FindWindowA" _
   (ByVal lpClassName As String, ByVal lpWindowName As String) As Long
Private Declare Function SetFocusAPI Lib "user32" Alias "SetFocus" _
   (ByVal hwnd As Long) As Long




'Determining Which Tasks Are Running

'With the Microsoft Windows operating system,
'you can run any number of applications simultaneously.
'Occasionally, you may need to determine which tasks are currently being
'run.
'This can be accomplished by using several Windows application programming
'interface
'(API) functions.
'To find the names of all currently executing tasks,
'you must first determine the handle of the window that is currently
'at the top of the z-order. This, of course, would be the window of your
'own Microsoft Visual Basic application.
'You can use the Windows API GetWindow function to retrieve the handle
'of your application's window with the statement:

'    CurrWnd = GetWindow(Form1.hwnd, GW_HWNDFIRST)
' To use in Access replace with the following
'     parent_hwnd = FindWindow(vbNullString, "Microsoft Access")
'The first argument of the GetWindow function is the handle of the window
'that is at the top of the z-order. In this case, this is the handle of
'Form1.

'The second argument of the GetWindow function specifies the window
'you want to retrieve the handle for.
'This argument can have one of the following values:

'  GW_CHILD Retrieve the handle for the child window.
'  GW_HWNDFIRST Retrieve the handle for the window at the top of the z-
'order.
'  GW_HWNDLAST Retrieve the handle for the window at the bottom of the z-
'order.
'  GW_HWNDNEXT Retrieve the handle of the window below the specified window
'in the z-order.
'  GW_HWNDPREV Retrieve the handle of the window above the specified window
'in the z-order.
'  GW_OWNER Retrieve the handle of the window that owns the specified
'window, if any.

'After you have retrieved the application's window handle,
'you can use the Windows API GetParent function to retrieve this window's
'child window handle. Next, you call the Windows API GetWindowText and
'GetWindowTextLength functions to retrieve the text in the window's title
'bar
'and the length of this text, respectively. You can then use the text string
'in your own application. For example, you can save the title bar text
'to a List Box control.

'All of the above steps are repeated until you have processed all running
'tasks.
'You know that you have gone through each task when the current window is
'that'of your own application.


Function LoadTaskList() As String
Dim CurrWnd As Long
Dim Length As Long
Dim TaskName As String
Dim Parent As Long
Dim parent_hwnd As Long
Dim strMyTaskList As String
  strMyTaskList = " Task List " & vbCrLf

' This line below works from VB form
'CurrWnd = GetWindow(Form1.hwnd, GW_HWNDFIRST)
' get Parent Window Handle
     parent_hwnd = FindWindow(vbNullString, "Microsoft Access")
    If parent_hwnd = 0 Then
     MsgBox "Access Not Found"
      Exit Function
     End If
      'SetFocusAPI parent_hwnd
       CurrWnd = parent_hwnd
While CurrWnd <> 0
  Parent = GetParent(CurrWnd)
  Length = GetWindowTextLength(CurrWnd)
  TaskName = Space$(Length + 1)
  Length = GetWindowText(CurrWnd, TaskName, Length + 1)
  TaskName = Left$(TaskName, Len(TaskName) - 1)

  If Length > 0 Then
  'If TaskName <> Me.Caption Then
  'If TaskName <> "Microsoft Access" Then
     'List1.AddItem TaskName
     strMyTaskList = strMyTaskList & TaskName & vbCrLf
     Debug.Print TaskName
   'End If
  End If
  CurrWnd = GetWindow(CurrWnd, GW_HWNDNEXT)

    DoEvents
Wend
LoadTaskList = strMyTaskList
End Function



Colby, John wrote:

>In looking over the time sync stuff I found a class and module to replace
>the winsock OCX control.  It has a call:
>
>    p_lngWindowHandle = CreateWindowEx(0&, "STATIC", "SOCKET_WINDOW", 0&,
>0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, App.hInstance, ByVal 0&)
>
>which fails on App.hInstance.  I'm assuming that this is a handle to the
>application window.  Is there an equivelent in VBA?  I think I solved that
>one by:
>
>    p_lngWindowHandle = CreateWindowEx(0&, "STATIC", "SOCKET_WINDOW", 0&,
>0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, Application.hWndAccessApp, ByVal 0&)
>
>However I am now getting a compile error on:
>
>    m_lngResolveMessage = RegisterWindowMessage(App.EXEName &
>".ResolveMessage")
>
>There is no apparent equivelent property in the Application object.  Does
>anyone know what I would use here?
>
>John W. Colby
>The DIS Database Guy
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
>Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 4:34 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Time Synchronization
>
>
>Hi Mark
>
>You can use an ActiveX control for this:
>
>http://www.universalthread.com/wconnect/wc.dll?FournierTransformation~
>
>"Synchronize your client machine or just the software itself by
>retrieving the highly accurate time from time servers [..] This is
>accurate to the millisecond range so a large use is for Timestamping
>of information independent of the local CPU clock."
>
>Or use the winsock ocx. Here's some VB code you probably can adapt:
>
>http://www.freevbcode.com/ShowCode.asp?ID=1594
>
>/gustav
>
>
>  
>
>>Date: 2004-11-02 18:39
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>Does anyone know of any VBA code to be placed within an Access application
>>that can easily poll an Internet-based time server, and return that time
>>to a variable?  Searching through the archives hasn't come up with
>>naything ... yet ...
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>Thanks,
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>Mark Naud?
>>    
>>
>
>  
>

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From JColby at dispec.com  Wed Nov  3 11:26:52 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 12:26:52 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF950@DISABILITYINS01>

LOL.  Maybe.  I stay away from that place!  ;-)

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 12:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Isn't that what OT is for? <innocent>

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:42 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hmm... do we need a Lonely Hearts list?  ;-)

John W. Colby
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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 11:30 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Christopher, 
 
I am a completely happily married heterosexual man but want to say I
LOVE YOU. I am going to try that. I'll look in the archives for that
code.

"Mackin, Christopher" <CMackin at quiznos.com> wrote:
You can always have a hidden form that processes the click on the "X" to
close the application as a command to close the report. The methodology
to prevent the ap from closing has been discussed extensively in the
archives, just add some code to that to close the currently visible
report and you should be OK.

-Chris Mackin

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 7:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Thanks DD, Charlotte and Jim.

I may consider using the process of unhiding the Access MDI when viewing
a report. The only thing I didn't like when I tested it is that they
have the
(X) to close the application. 
The user may mistake this X as the one to close the report. In the form
that they use they have to close the app with a button. Anyway, thanks
again everyone. You've all earned the rank of Guru in my books.

Darren DICK wrote:
Hi Lonnie
I use this code all the time too.
When you want to "SEE" (i.e. Preview) a report you have to make the
Access window (MDI) visible again I do this in the onclick of the
'launching' command button for the report or in the load Events of the
report. Then when the report is closed I have code in the Unload to make
the MDI hidden again

I like the look of the hidden MDI and it really suits my purposes, you
just have to put up with The hide, unhide aerobics if you want to keep
hiding the MDI for forms.

If I am mistaken about the MDI and previewing reports I am sure someone
from the list will let me know

See ya 

DD

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie
Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2004 8:14 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window

Yes, I have created the menu as and a toolbar as Jim had also suggested
and assigned their names in the property window for the form and cannot
see either of them when I open it. Am I missing another step?

Thanks Charlotte.

Bobby, Right Click dosen't work in this case with the HideWindow code.

Thanks to all so far.

Charlotte Foust wrote:
Have you created a shortcut menu for the report?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Can't you right-click and choose Print?

Bobby

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:10 PM
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access;
AccessD solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,

I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just
shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)

Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As
Long) As Long Dim dwReturn As Long Const SW_HIDE = 0 Const SW_SHOWNORMAL
= 1 Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....

It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview
reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?

I know there is an answer out there somewhere!

Thanks in advance.



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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Nov  3 11:26:22 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 09:26:22 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] What is App.hInstance in Access
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B3D@infoserver01.infostat.local>

>>the elite Windows 95/98/ME crowd
LOL ... And it isn't even Friday yet!

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Brett Barabash [mailto:BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 9:06 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] What is App.hInstance in Access


No, that parameter refers to the parent instance handle, not the window
handle.

However, according to MSDN, this value is ignored in Windows NT/2000/XP,
so you could just put 0& in its place.

If you wish to cater to the elite Windows 95/98/ME crowd, you need to
use the following code to get the Instance handle from the Application
window:

Private Const GWL_HINSTANCE = (-6)

Private Declare Function GetWindowLong Lib "user32" _
  Alias "GetWindowLongA" (ByVal hwnd As Long, ByVal nIndex As Long) As
Long

GetWindowLong(hWndAccessApp, GWL_HINSTANCE)


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 9:23 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] What is App.hInstance in Access

In looking over the time sync stuff I found a class and module to
replace the winsock OCX control.  It has a call:

    p_lngWindowHandle = CreateWindowEx(0&, "STATIC", "SOCKET_WINDOW",
0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, App.hInstance, ByVal 0&)

which fails on App.hInstance.  I'm assuming that this is a handle to the
application window.  Is there an equivelent in VBA?  I think I solved
that one by:

    p_lngWindowHandle = CreateWindowEx(0&, "STATIC", "SOCKET_WINDOW",
0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, Application.hWndAccessApp, ByVal 0&)

However I am now getting a compile error on:

    m_lngResolveMessage = RegisterWindowMessage(App.EXEName &
".ResolveMessage")

There is no apparent equivelent property in the Application object. Does
anyone know what I would use here?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy



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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Wed Nov  3 13:02:09 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 14:02:09 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C744869E7@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

List,

Has M$ addressed the database bloating issue in A2K3 I've read about on the list?  We're in the process of converting our A97 apps to A2K3 and I'm trying to decide between A2K format or A2K3.  Any suggestions?

TIA,

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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Wed Nov  3 14:25:10 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 21:25:10 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B54D8@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

I use A2K3 for a while now, I believe I never experienced a, out of the
ordinary, bloating in A2K3.

Erwin

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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:02 PM
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Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

List,

Has M$ addressed the database bloating issue in A2K3 I've read about on
the list?  We're in the process of converting our A97 apps to A2K3 and
I'm trying to decide between A2K format or A2K3.  Any suggestions?

TIA,

Jim DeMarco
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Nov  3 14:27:17 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 12:27:17 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B42@infoserver01.infostat.local>

As far as I know, the problem still exists in 2003, and the 2000 format
is still the default in that version.

Charlotte Foust


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List,

Has M$ addressed the database bloating issue in A2K3 I've read about on
the list?  We're in the process of converting our A97 apps to A2K3 and
I'm trying to decide between A2K format or A2K3.  Any suggestions?

TIA,

Jim DeMarco
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From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 12:31:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window (Chris)
In-Reply-To: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27F0C2@snowmass.quiznos.net>
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Hello Chris,
 
I searched the archives with no success. Can you give a little help in finding the instructions?
 
Thanks.

"Mackin, Christopher" <CMackin at quiznos.com> wrote:
You can always have a hidden form that processes the click on the "X" to close the application as a command to close the report. The methodology to prevent the ap from closing has been discussed extensively in the archives, just add some code to that to close the currently visible report and you should be OK.

-Chris Mackin

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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 7:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Thanks DD, Charlotte and Jim.

I may consider using the process of unhiding the Access MDI when viewing a report. The only thing I didn't like when I tested it is that they have the (X) to close the application. 
The user may mistake this X as the one to close the report. In the form that they use they have to close the app with a button. Anyway, thanks again everyone. You've all earned the rank of Guru in my books.

Darren DICK wrote:
Hi Lonnie
I use this code all the time too.
When you want to "SEE" (i.e. Preview) a report you have to make the Access
window (MDI) visible again
I do this in the onclick of the 'launching' command button for the report or
in the load
Events of the report. Then when the report is closed I have code in the
Unload to make the MDI hidden again

I like the look of the hidden MDI and it really suits my purposes, you just
have to put up with
The hide, unhide aerobics if you want to keep hiding the MDI for forms.

If I am mistaken about the MDI and previewing reports I am sure someone from
the list will let me know

See ya 

DD

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2004 8:14 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window

Yes, I have created the menu as and a toolbar as Jim had also suggested and
assigned their names in the property window for the form and cannot see
either of them when I open it. Am I missing another step?

Thanks Charlotte.

Bobby, Right Click dosen't work in this case with the HideWindow code.

Thanks to all so far.

Charlotte Foust wrote:
Have you created a shortcut menu for the report?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Can't you right-click and choose Print?

Bobby

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Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:10 PM
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access;
AccessD solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,

I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just
shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)

Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As
Long) As Long Dim dwReturn As Long Const SW_HIDE = 0 Const SW_SHOWNORMAL
= 1 Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....

It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview
reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?

I know there is an answer out there somewhere!

Thanks in advance.



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From CMackin at quiznos.com  Wed Nov  3 14:43:19 2004
From: CMackin at quiznos.com (Mackin, Christopher)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 13:43:19 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window (Chris)
Message-ID: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27F0C6@snowmass.quiznos.net>

Well now that I know that certain favors are off the table I'm not so sure...

Here's one way to do it:
1) Create a global variable called something like gblnAllowAppClose and set it to false
2) Open a form as hidden when you open the app, and in the Unload event of the form you have something like"
	Cancel = Not gblnAllowAppClose
3) If you never set the value of gblnAllowAppClose then nobody can ever exit the app via normal commands so on your Exit button. before you quit the app have something like:
	gblnAllowAppClose = True
	Application.Quit
4) In the unload event of the form you are currently stopping the app from closing and you know that if that Event is called with gblnAllowAppClose = False then someone has tried to exit the app via the "X", so you can drop your code there for how you want to close the current report.

I'm sure someone on the list has a more detailed account of how to do it if this isn't enough.

Good Luck,
Chris Mackin




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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 1:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window (Chris)


Hello Chris,
 
I searched the archives with no success. Can you give a little help in finding the instructions?
 
Thanks.

"Mackin, Christopher" <CMackin at quiznos.com> wrote:
You can always have a hidden form that processes the click on the "X" to close the application as a command to close the report. The methodology to prevent the ap from closing has been discussed extensively in the archives, just add some code to that to close the currently visible report and you should be OK.

-Chris Mackin

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 7:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Thanks DD, Charlotte and Jim.

I may consider using the process of unhiding the Access MDI when viewing a report. The only thing I didn't like when I tested it is that they have the (X) to close the application. 
The user may mistake this X as the one to close the report. In the form that they use they have to close the app with a button. Anyway, thanks again everyone. You've all earned the rank of Guru in my books.

Darren DICK wrote:
Hi Lonnie
I use this code all the time too.
When you want to "SEE" (i.e. Preview) a report you have to make the Access
window (MDI) visible again
I do this in the onclick of the 'launching' command button for the report or
in the load
Events of the report. Then when the report is closed I have code in the
Unload to make the MDI hidden again

I like the look of the hidden MDI and it really suits my purposes, you just
have to put up with
The hide, unhide aerobics if you want to keep hiding the MDI for forms.

If I am mistaken about the MDI and previewing reports I am sure someone from
the list will let me know

See ya 

DD

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2004 8:14 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window

Yes, I have created the menu as and a toolbar as Jim had also suggested and
assigned their names in the property window for the form and cannot see
either of them when I open it. Am I missing another step?

Thanks Charlotte.

Bobby, Right Click dosen't work in this case with the HideWindow code.

Thanks to all so far.

Charlotte Foust wrote:
Have you created a shortcut menu for the report?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Can't you right-click and choose Print?

Bobby

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Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:10 PM
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access;
AccessD solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,

I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just
shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)

Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As
Long) As Long Dim dwReturn As Long Const SW_HIDE = 0 Const SW_SHOWNORMAL
= 1 Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....

It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview
reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?

I know there is an answer out there somewhere!

Thanks in advance.



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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Nov  3 14:44:05 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 12:44:05 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B43@infoserver01.infostat.local>

What file format are you using?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Erwin Craps - IT Helps [mailto:Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 12:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating


I use A2K3 for a while now, I believe I never experienced a, out of the
ordinary, bloating in A2K3.

Erwin

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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:02 PM
To: AccessD (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

List,

Has M$ addressed the database bloating issue in A2K3 I've read about on
the list?  We're in the process of converting our A97 apps to A2K3 and
I'm trying to decide between A2K format or A2K3.  Any suggestions?

TIA,

Jim DeMarco
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Hudson Health Plan
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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Wed Nov  3 15:02:29 2004
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 16:02:29 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F7E@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Hi All,
If I have data similar to:
JOE001
JOE002
JOE003
JOE005
JOE006

Is there a way, using just SQL, to return the next available number in the
sequence, JOE004, and be flexible enough to return JOE007 if JOE004 had
already existed?
Or do I have to use code to iterate through the records to check for
"holes"?

Thanks!
JR




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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Nov  3 15:12:47 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 15:12:47 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window (Chris)
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D05A@main2.marlow.com>

Did you search my archives?  (http://www.wolfwares.com/AccessD) They are
missing the last month or two (long story), but they go back a few years.

Drew

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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 2:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window (Chris)


Hello Chris,
 
I searched the archives with no success. Can you give a little help in
finding the instructions?
 
Thanks.

"Mackin, Christopher" <CMackin at quiznos.com> wrote:
You can always have a hidden form that processes the click on the "X" to
close the application as a command to close the report. The methodology to
prevent the ap from closing has been discussed extensively in the archives,
just add some code to that to close the currently visible report and you
should be OK.

-Chris Mackin

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 7:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Thanks DD, Charlotte and Jim.

I may consider using the process of unhiding the Access MDI when viewing a
report. The only thing I didn't like when I tested it is that they have the
(X) to close the application. 
The user may mistake this X as the one to close the report. In the form that
they use they have to close the app with a button. Anyway, thanks again
everyone. You've all earned the rank of Guru in my books.

Darren DICK wrote:
Hi Lonnie
I use this code all the time too.
When you want to "SEE" (i.e. Preview) a report you have to make the Access
window (MDI) visible again
I do this in the onclick of the 'launching' command button for the report or
in the load
Events of the report. Then when the report is closed I have code in the
Unload to make the MDI hidden again

I like the look of the hidden MDI and it really suits my purposes, you just
have to put up with
The hide, unhide aerobics if you want to keep hiding the MDI for forms.

If I am mistaken about the MDI and previewing reports I am sure someone from
the list will let me know

See ya 

DD

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2004 8:14 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window

Yes, I have created the menu as and a toolbar as Jim had also suggested and
assigned their names in the property window for the form and cannot see
either of them when I open it. Am I missing another step?

Thanks Charlotte.

Bobby, Right Click dosen't work in this case with the HideWindow code.

Thanks to all so far.

Charlotte Foust wrote:
Have you created a shortcut menu for the report?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Can't you right-click and choose Print?

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie
Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:10 PM
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access;
AccessD solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,

I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just
shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)

Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As
Long) As Long Dim dwReturn As Long Const SW_HIDE = 0 Const SW_SHOWNORMAL
= 1 Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....

It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview
reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?

I know there is an answer out there somewhere!

Thanks in advance.



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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Nov  3 15:40:06 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 16:40:06 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
In-Reply-To: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF94F@DISABILITYINS01>
References: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF94F@DISABILITYINS01>
Message-ID: <41895036.2050907@rogers.com>

Colby, John wrote:

>Hmm... do we need a Lonely Hearts list?  ;-)
>
>John W. Colby
>The DIS Database Guy
>
>  
>
Well if so I am seriously into one-legged left-handed bisex biker chicks 
with programming skills. Anyone suitable please whip me and beat me and 
I'll write code for $1 an hour. Oh I forgot... must have an Iroquois cut.



From artful at rogers.com  Wed Nov  3 15:44:14 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 16:44:14 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
In-Reply-To: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F7E@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
References: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F7E@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <4189512E.4000701@rogers.com>

Joe Rojas wrote:

>Hi All,
>If I have data similar to:
>JOE001
>JOE002
>JOE003
>JOE005
>JOE006
>
>Is there a way, using just SQL, to return the next available number in the
>sequence, JOE004, and be flexible enough to return JOE007 if JOE004 had
>already existed?
>Or do I have to use code to iterate through the records to check for
>"holes"?
>
>Thanks!
>JR
>
>
>
>
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IMHO something is wrong with this design. You are packing two columns 
into one and expecting the database to act intelligently: unfair. If you 
really need this column, consider adding two more columns, one with each 
fragment and then concatenating the result in the column you have. The 
problem becomes much simpler with this approach.

But back to the start. Why are you concatenating two column values into one?

A.


From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Wed Nov  3 15:44:38 2004
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 13:44:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window (Chris)
In-Reply-To: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27F0C6@snowmass.quiznos.net>
Message-ID: <20041103214438.93495.qmail@web20426.mail.yahoo.com>

You get a star.
 
 * 
That did it. I have now have a professional looking application that is fully functional.
 


"Mackin, Christopher" <CMackin at quiznos.com> wrote:
Well now that I know that certain favors are off the table I'm not so sure...

Here's one way to do it:
1) Create a global variable called something like gblnAllowAppClose and set it to false
2) Open a form as hidden when you open the app, and in the Unload event of the form you have something like"
Cancel = Not gblnAllowAppClose
3) If you never set the value of gblnAllowAppClose then nobody can ever exit the app via normal commands so on your Exit button. before you quit the app have something like:
gblnAllowAppClose = True
Application.Quit
4) In the unload event of the form you are currently stopping the app from closing and you know that if that Event is called with gblnAllowAppClose = False then someone has tried to exit the app via the "X", so you can drop your code there for how you want to close the current report.

I'm sure someone on the list has a more detailed account of how to do it if this isn't enough.

Good Luck,
Chris Mackin




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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 1:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window (Chris)


Hello Chris,

I searched the archives with no success. Can you give a little help in finding the instructions?

Thanks.

"Mackin, Christopher" wrote:
You can always have a hidden form that processes the click on the "X" to close the application as a command to close the report. The methodology to prevent the ap from closing has been discussed extensively in the archives, just add some code to that to close the currently visible report and you should be OK.

-Chris Mackin

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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 7:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Thanks DD, Charlotte and Jim.

I may consider using the process of unhiding the Access MDI when viewing a report. The only thing I didn't like when I tested it is that they have the (X) to close the application. 
The user may mistake this X as the one to close the report. In the form that they use they have to close the app with a button. Anyway, thanks again everyone. You've all earned the rank of Guru in my books.

Darren DICK wrote:
Hi Lonnie
I use this code all the time too.
When you want to "SEE" (i.e. Preview) a report you have to make the Access
window (MDI) visible again
I do this in the onclick of the 'launching' command button for the report or
in the load
Events of the report. Then when the report is closed I have code in the
Unload to make the MDI hidden again

I like the look of the hidden MDI and it really suits my purposes, you just
have to put up with
The hide, unhide aerobics if you want to keep hiding the MDI for forms.

If I am mistaken about the MDI and previewing reports I am sure someone from
the list will let me know

See ya 

DD

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2004 8:14 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window

Yes, I have created the menu as and a toolbar as Jim had also suggested and
assigned their names in the property window for the form and cannot see
either of them when I open it. Am I missing another step?

Thanks Charlotte.

Bobby, Right Click dosen't work in this case with the HideWindow code.

Thanks to all so far.

Charlotte Foust wrote:
Have you created a shortcut menu for the report?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Can't you right-click and choose Print?

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie
Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:10 PM
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access;
AccessD solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,

I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just
shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)

Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As
Long) As Long Dim dwReturn As Long Const SW_HIDE = 0 Const SW_SHOWNORMAL
= 1 Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....

It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview
reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?

I know there is an answer out there somewhere!

Thanks in advance.



May God bless you beyond your imagination!
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ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Nov  3 16:13:01 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 09:13:01 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
In-Reply-To: <20041103143644.16433.qmail@web20424.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200411032213.iA3MD9XH017636@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Lonnie
I have a switchboard type form open all the time
It is hidden or not hidden depending on where the user has gone

When reports are open and the MDI is displayed I have it hidden

In the On close of the Switchboard the User is prompted with a msgbox

Are you sure you want to close and quit the <<appname>> application?
(VBYESNO)

That way if they click the big X not the little x in the reports area
It (obviously) attempts to close the app, thus attempts to close the
Switchboard 
and thus the MsgBox Confirming quitting comes up.

After show or explaining it once they realise they have clicked the bigX
By mistake and they answer no the to MsgBox and everything's is cool

Simple <vbg>

There are heaps of ways of doing this.
Have a look in the archives or contact me off list and "I'll show you mine"
;-)))

See ya

DD


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Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2004 1:37 AM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window

Thanks DD, Charlotte and Jim.
 
I may consider using the process of unhiding the Access MDI when viewing a
report. The only thing I didn't like when I tested it is that they have the
(X) to close the application. 
The user may mistake this X as the one to close the report. In the form that
they use they have to close the app with a button. Anyway, thanks again
everyone. You've all earned the rank of Guru in my books.

Darren DICK <d.dick at uws.edu.au> wrote:
Hi Lonnie
I use this code all the time too.
When you want to "SEE" (i.e. Preview) a report you have to make the Access
window (MDI) visible again I do this in the onclick of the 'launching'
command button for the report or in the load Events of the report. Then when
the report is closed I have code in the Unload to make the MDI hidden again

I like the look of the hidden MDI and it really suits my purposes, you just
have to put up with The hide, unhide aerobics if you want to keep hiding the
MDI for forms.

If I am mistaken about the MDI and previewing reports I am sure someone from
the list will let me know

See ya 

DD

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Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2004 8:14 AM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window

Yes, I have created the menu as and a toolbar as Jim had also suggested and
assigned their names in the property window for the form and cannot see
either of them when I open it. Am I missing another step?

Thanks Charlotte.

Bobby, Right Click dosen't work in this case with the HideWindow code.

Thanks to all so far.

Charlotte Foust wrote:
Have you created a shortcut menu for the report?

Charlotte Foust


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Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:45 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Can't you right-click and choose Print?

Bobby

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Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,

I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just shows
a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)

Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As
Long) As Long Dim dwReturn As Long Const SW_HIDE = 0 Const SW_SHOWNORMAL = 1
Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....

It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview reports.
However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?

I know there is an answer out there somewhere!

Thanks in advance.



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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Nov  3 16:20:40 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 14:20:40 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B47@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Arthur!  I didn't know you CARED!! LOL

Charlotte Foust


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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 1:40 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Colby, John wrote:

>Hmm... do we need a Lonely Hearts list?  ;-)
>
>John W. Colby
>The DIS Database Guy
>
>  
>
Well if so I am seriously into one-legged left-handed bisex biker chicks

with programming skills. Anyone suitable please whip me and beat me and 
I'll write code for $1 an hour. Oh I forgot... must have an Iroquois
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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Nov  3 16:22:53 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 09:22:53 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B43@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <200411032223.iA3MN2XH027861@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Jim
I think the issue is still there - maybe lessened, but still there

If you have access to the app perhaps try this...
I get into the code area and compile it
I have an icon Called DECOMPILE in the SendTo folder of AllUsers that points
to

C:\ProgramFiles\Microsoft Office\OfficeXX\MSACCESS.exe /decompile

(Replace the path with your Access Path)

Then I right click the dB or the db's shortcut icon and click SendTo and
select DECOMPILE

Then I get into the dB and Compact and repair it.

I can get a 9 meg monster down to about 1.8 - 2 megs

Do it every time I deliver a fresh version or app

HTH

See ya

DD


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Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2004 7:44 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

What file format are you using?

Charlotte Foust


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From: Erwin Craps - IT Helps [mailto:Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 12:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating


I use A2K3 for a while now, I believe I never experienced a, out of the
ordinary, bloating in A2K3.

Erwin

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Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

List,

Has M$ addressed the database bloating issue in A2K3 I've read about on
the list?  We're in the process of converting our A97 apps to A2K3 and
I'm trying to decide between A2K format or A2K3.  Any suggestions?

TIA,

Jim DeMarco
Director Application Development
Hudson Health Plan
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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Wed Nov  3 18:27:19 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 01:27:19 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B54DB@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Charlotte

As far as I know A2K3 uses the 2002/2003 format by default. Maybe I
changed it once in the options don't kown for sure, but anyway I did not
experianced some bloating in 2002/2003 format...

But I must confess I did not do any heavy developing yet in A2K3, I only
switched one major and big app recently from A2K to A2K3. Now I just
started a new app in A2K3, but I only started that yet...

Erwin


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Foust
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 9:27 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

As far as I know, the problem still exists in 2003, and the 2000 format
is still the default in that version.

Charlotte Foust


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From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 11:02 AM
To: AccessD (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating


List,

Has M$ addressed the database bloating issue in A2K3 I've read about on
the list?  We're in the process of converting our A97 apps to A2K3 and
I'm trying to decide between A2K format or A2K3.  Any suggestions?

TIA,

Jim DeMarco
Director Application Development
Hudson Health Plan
Tarrytown, NY


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Nov  3 19:32:35 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 17:32:35 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B49@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Are you sure?  I understood that A2K3 used the 2000 format by default.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Erwin Craps - IT Helps [mailto:Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 4:27 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating


Charlotte

As far as I know A2K3 uses the 2002/2003 format by default. Maybe I
changed it once in the options don't kown for sure, but anyway I did not
experianced some bloating in 2002/2003 format...

But I must confess I did not do any heavy developing yet in A2K3, I only
switched one major and big app recently from A2K to A2K3. Now I just
started a new app in A2K3, but I only started that yet...

Erwin


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Foust
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 9:27 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

As far as I know, the problem still exists in 2003, and the 2000 format
is still the default in that version.

Charlotte Foust


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From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 11:02 AM
To: AccessD (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating


List,

Has M$ addressed the database bloating issue in A2K3 I've read about on
the list?  We're in the process of converting our A97 apps to A2K3 and
I'm trying to decide between A2K format or A2K3.  Any suggestions?

TIA,

Jim DeMarco
Director Application Development
Hudson Health Plan
Tarrytown, NY


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From KP at sdsonline.net  Wed Nov  3 21:19:20 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 14:19:20 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete Missing references
Message-ID: <000a01c4c21d$13ae0bb0$6401a8c0@user>

Yesterday I was out on-site with a client and together we made some changes to the mdb. I burned a copy of the modified version to bring home to continue working on and now the references are causing me some problems.

Client had Frontpage refs which are newer than mine - so naturally when I load I get 'Missing' for the 2 front page files. I tried to just untick those refs and then add my versions but I simply cannot untick those missing references and click OK - I get error message 'Cannot perform requested operation'. The other thing I tried was to replace the refs by clicking browse and override the missing refs with mine - same error.

BTW - I thought maybe an open form or something may be blocking me from changing the refs - but I am just shift+opening the mdb - no open forms or anything else.

What am I missing? 

TIA

Kath


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Nov  3 21:36:24 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 22:36:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete Missing references
In-Reply-To: <000a01c4c21d$13ae0bb0$6401a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <002901c4c21f$75c5f9a0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

When you say burned a copy do you mean to CD?  Is the mdb file read only
now?  Check with windows explorer and set back to r/w if it is read only.
When copying from CD to disk the file is copied Read Only.

John W. Colby
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
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Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete Missing references


Yesterday I was out on-site with a client and together we made some changes
to the mdb. I burned a copy of the modified version to bring home to
continue working on and now the references are causing me some problems.

Client had Frontpage refs which are newer than mine - so naturally when I
load I get 'Missing' for the 2 front page files. I tried to just untick
those refs and then add my versions but I simply cannot untick those missing
references and click OK - I get error message 'Cannot perform requested
operation'. The other thing I tried was to replace the refs by clicking
browse and override the missing refs with mine - same error.

BTW - I thought maybe an open form or something may be blocking me from
changing the refs - but I am just shift+opening the mdb - no open forms or
anything else.

What am I missing? 

TIA

Kath
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Wed Nov  3 21:49:25 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 14:49:25 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete Missing references
References: <002901c4c21f$75c5f9a0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <000b01c4c221$476ef5a0$6401a8c0@user>

Thanks John - no - I checked that.....I have also now tried a couple of other things 

- I have tried to import all objects into a clean new mdb - it will not import the forms because of this refs prob,
- I have run Jetcomp and created a new version - but it also has the same problem.

The references in problem are to Frontpage - I can't believe that I can't just remove them and create them again....
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John W. Colby 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 2:36 PM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete Missing references


  When you say burned a copy do you mean to CD?  Is the mdb file read only
  now?  Check with windows explorer and set back to r/w if it is read only.
  When copying from CD to disk the file is copied Read Only.

  John W. Colby
  www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:19 PM
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
  Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete Missing references


  Yesterday I was out on-site with a client and together we made some changes
  to the mdb. I burned a copy of the modified version to bring home to
  continue working on and now the references are causing me some problems.

  Client had Frontpage refs which are newer than mine - so naturally when I
  load I get 'Missing' for the 2 front page files. I tried to just untick
  those refs and then add my versions but I simply cannot untick those missing
  references and click OK - I get error message 'Cannot perform requested
  operation'. The other thing I tried was to replace the refs by clicking
  browse and override the missing refs with mine - same error.

  BTW - I thought maybe an open form or something may be blocking me from
  changing the refs - but I am just shift+opening the mdb - no open forms or
  anything else.

  What am I missing? 

  TIA

  Kath
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Wed Nov  3 21:52:50 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 14:52:50 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Online Access groups
References: <20041102201001.60145.qmail@web20424.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001a01c4c221$c14f3740$6401a8c0@user>

Lonnie - just a quick OT - I notice that your post also went to other Access groups - do you find them as useful as AccessD?

Kath
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  From: Lonnie Johnson 
  To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu' ; AccessDevelopers ; ms_access ; AccessD solving' 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 7:10 AM
  Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


  Hello all,
   
  I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)
   
  Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As Long) As Long
  Dim dwReturn As Long
  Const SW_HIDE = 0
  Const SW_SHOWNORMAL = 1
  Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....
   
  It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?
   
  I know there is an answer out there somewhere!
   
  Thanks in advance.



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From michael.mattys at adelphia.net  Wed Nov  3 22:17:19 2004
From: michael.mattys at adelphia.net (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 23:17:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Online Access groups
References: <20041102201001.60145.qmail@web20424.mail.yahoo.com>
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kath Pelletti" <KP at sdsonline.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:52 PM
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Online Access groups


Lonnie - just a quick OT - I notice that your post also went to other Access
groups - do you find them as useful as AccessD?

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Lonnie Johnson
  To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu' ; AccessDevelopers ; ms_access ;
AccessD solving'


Now hold on there, Kath, let's see ... um, hm ... try this:

Application.SaveAsText acForm, "FormName", "DesiredPath"

I'm thinking that if there's a FrontPage control on this form that
you can just delete it from the text file, delete the form, remove the
bad ref, and then import that file right back in as a form.

----

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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Thu Nov  4 00:53:45 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 07:53:45 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B54DC@stekelbes.ithelps.local>


You can set the default DB type for new database between 200O or
2002/2003 in the option menu.

On my computer it is set tp 2002/2003, it is posible that I changed it
to 2002/2003 but I don't see the point having A2K3 and creating by
default new databases in 2000 format, seems pointless to me. I'll check
on my other computers, if I did changed that option, than probably not
on the those.

You can work and modify 2000 dababase files without converting in Access
2003.
Maybe the bloat is still present in A2K3 when using A2K database.

Erwin

 
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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 2:33 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

Are you sure?  I understood that A2K3 used the 2000 format by default.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Erwin Craps - IT Helps [mailto:Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 4:27 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating


Charlotte

As far as I know A2K3 uses the 2002/2003 format by default. Maybe I
changed it once in the options don't kown for sure, but anyway I did not
experianced some bloating in 2002/2003 format...

But I must confess I did not do any heavy developing yet in A2K3, I only
switched one major and big app recently from A2K to A2K3. Now I just
started a new app in A2K3, but I only started that yet...

Erwin


-----Original Message-----
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Foust
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 9:27 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

As far as I know, the problem still exists in 2003, and the 2000 format
is still the default in that version.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 11:02 AM
To: AccessD (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating


List,

Has M$ addressed the database bloating issue in A2K3 I've read about on
the list?  We're in the process of converting our A97 apps to A2K3 and
I'm trying to decide between A2K format or A2K3.  Any suggestions?

TIA,

Jim DeMarco
Director Application Development
Hudson Health Plan
Tarrytown, NY


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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Nov  4 01:25:59 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 07:25:59 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
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Joe
The only way I can come up with is if you created a table of all possible
numbers, left joined that to this table, had a WHERE statement that limited
the selection to records where the key on the joined table (yours) was null
(ie no match) and returned the TOP 1 of those.

-- Andy Lacey
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> Subject: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
> 
> 
> Hi All,
> If I have data similar to:
> JOE001
> JOE002
> JOE003
> JOE005
> JOE006
> 
> Is there a way, using just SQL, to return the next available 
> number in the sequence, JOE004, and be flexible enough to 
> return JOE007 if JOE004 had already existed? Or do I have to 
> use code to iterate through the records to check for "holes"?
> 
> Thanks!
> JR
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov  4 03:52:11 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 10:52:11 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
In-Reply-To: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F7E@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
References: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F7E@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <896943354.20041104105211@cactus.dk>

Hi Joe

> If I have data similar to:
> JOE001
> JOE002
> JOE003
> JOE005
> JOE006

> Is there a way, using just SQL, to return the next available number in the
> sequence, JOE004, and be flexible enough to return JOE007 if JOE004 had
> already existed?
> Or do I have to use code to iterate through the records to check for
> "holes"?

Except for the indication of some malfunctioning during the design
state as already pointed out by others, there is:

<SQL>

  SELECT TOP 1
    TextID,
    Left(TextID, Len(TextID)-3) &
      Right(String(3,"0") & Right(TextID,3)+1,3) AS NextID
  FROM
    tblID
  WHERE
    (Nz(
      (Select Top 1
        Val(Right(TextID,3))
      From
        tblID As T
      Where
        T.TextID > tblID.TextID)
      -Val(Right([TextID],3)),
    2)>1)
  ORDER BY
    tblID.TextID;

</SQL>

All the "3"s count for the length of the numeric right part of the
textid. 
Note the "magic 2" in Nz() which cares for the return of the last
textid if no "holes" exist.

/gustav



From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Thu Nov  4 06:12:51 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 07:12:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C33D@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

My database is hooked to a .mdw.  During the development stage, I want
to open up the database and bypass this nag screen that asks for the
user name and password.  I have been googling, but can't find too much.
I would like the shortcut on my desktop to do it, I think.  But at this
point I will do just about anything to disconnect it while I am
developing.  Thanks, wise ones.


From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Thu Nov  4 06:21:23 2004
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 17:51:23 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
References: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F7E@mercury.tnco-inc.com> 
	<896943354.20041104105211@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <006501c4c268$dc8c5c30$7d1865cb@winxp>

    Excellent - Gustav!   Beautiful SQL.

A.D.Tejpal
--------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gustav Brock 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 15:22
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL


  Hi Joe

  > If I have data similar to:
  > JOE001
  > JOE002
  > JOE003
  > JOE005
  > JOE006

  > Is there a way, using just SQL, to return the next available number in the
  > sequence, JOE004, and be flexible enough to return JOE007 if JOE004 had
  > already existed?
  > Or do I have to use code to iterate through the records to check for
  > "holes"?

  Except for the indication of some malfunctioning during the design
  state as already pointed out by others, there is:

  <SQL>

    SELECT TOP 1
      TextID,
      Left(TextID, Len(TextID)-3) &
        Right(String(3,"0") & Right(TextID,3)+1,3) AS NextID
    FROM
      tblID
    WHERE
      (Nz(
        (Select Top 1
          Val(Right(TextID,3))
        From
          tblID As T
        Where
          T.TextID > tblID.TextID)
        -Val(Right([TextID],3)),
      2)>1)
    ORDER BY
      tblID.TextID;

  </SQL>

  All the "3"s count for the length of the numeric right part of the
  textid. 
  Note the "magic 2" in Nz() which cares for the return of the last
  textid if no "holes" exist.

  /gustav



From mgauk at btconnect.com  Thu Nov  4 06:26:56 2004
From: mgauk at btconnect.com (MG)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 12:26:56 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C33D@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <200411041228.iA4CS3L07803@databaseadvisors.com>

Try a shortcut on your desk, (watch for word wrap) viz:
"C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\MSACCESS.EXE"
"C:\_MCM\MCMFrontEnd.mdb"  /wrkgrp  "\\Server\svr-c\MCM\MySystem.mdw"  /USER
max/PWD max123456789

Regards
Max


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen
Sent: 04 November 2004 12:13
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery

My database is hooked to a .mdw.  During the development stage, I want to
open up the database and bypass this nag screen that asks for the user name
and password.  I have been googling, but can't find too much.
I would like the shortcut on my desktop to do it, I think.  But at this
point I will do just about anything to disconnect it while I am developing.
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From mark.breen at gmail.com  Thu Nov  4 07:18:47 2004
From: mark.breen at gmail.com (Mark Breen)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 13:18:47 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
In-Reply-To: <006501c4c268$dc8c5c30$7d1865cb@winxp>
References: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F7E@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
	<896943354.20041104105211@cactus.dk>
	<006501c4c268$dc8c5c30$7d1865cb@winxp>
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Hello Gustav,

Really beautiful. Compliments to you.  Of course when we read the SQL
now, it is simple, but not so simple when we were the other side of
the fence.

I love to hand write my SQL when practical.

Mark




On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 17:51:23 +0530, A.D.Tejpal <adtp at touchtelindia.net> wrote:
>    Excellent - Gustav!   Beautiful SQL.
> 
> A.D.Tejpal
> --------------
> 
> 
> 
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Gustav Brock
>  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 15:22
>  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
> 
>  Hi Joe
> 
>  > If I have data similar to:
>  > JOE001
>  > JOE002
>  > JOE003
>  > JOE005
>  > JOE006
> 
>  > Is there a way, using just SQL, to return the next available number in the
>  > sequence, JOE004, and be flexible enough to return JOE007 if JOE004 had
>  > already existed?
>  > Or do I have to use code to iterate through the records to check for
>  > "holes"?
> 
>  Except for the indication of some malfunctioning during the design
>  state as already pointed out by others, there is:
> 
>  <SQL>
> 
>    SELECT TOP 1
>      TextID,
>      Left(TextID, Len(TextID)-3) &
>        Right(String(3,"0") & Right(TextID,3)+1,3) AS NextID
>    FROM
>      tblID
>    WHERE
>      (Nz(
>        (Select Top 1
>          Val(Right(TextID,3))
>        From
>          tblID As T
>        Where
>          T.TextID > tblID.TextID)
>        -Val(Right([TextID],3)),
>      2)>1)
>    ORDER BY
>      tblID.TextID;
> 
>  </SQL>
> 
>  All the "3"s count for the length of the numeric right part of the
>  textid.
>  Note the "magic 2" in Nz() which cares for the return of the last
>  textid if no "holes" exist.
> 
>  /gustav
> 
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From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Thu Nov  4 07:20:16 2004
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 05:20:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Online Access groups
In-Reply-To: <001a01c4c221$c14f3740$6401a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <20041104132016.35417.qmail@web20424.mail.yahoo.com>

I try not to cross post much. This and AccessDevelopers are two that I find most helpful. Because I was desperate and needed a solution fast, I solicited the help of every forum I could to tug at every available guru I could.

Kath Pelletti <KP at sdsonline.net> wrote:Lonnie - just a quick OT - I notice that your post also went to other Access groups - do you find them as useful as AccessD?

Kath
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Lonnie Johnson 
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu' ; AccessDevelopers ; ms_access ; AccessD solving' 
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 7:10 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,

I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)

Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As Long) As Long
Dim dwReturn As Long
Const SW_HIDE = 0
Const SW_SHOWNORMAL = 1
Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....

It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?

I know there is an answer out there somewhere!

Thanks in advance.



May God bless you beyond your imagination!
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ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Nov  4 06:24:56 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 13:24:56 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
Message-ID: <20041104132453.C747F25490F@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Gustav, I'm in awe!!! But I don't fully understand how it works. What does
the:

Nz((Select Top 1 Val(Right(TextID,3))

return, and how does checking it being >1 spot the gaps?

--
Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



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To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
Date: 04/11/04 12:23

>
>     Excellent - Gustav!   Beautiful SQL.
>
> A.D.Tejpal
> --------------
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Gustav Brock
>   To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>   Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 15:22
>   Subject: Re: [AccessD] Checking for &quot;holes&quot; in a sequence
using SQL
>
>
>   Hi Joe
>
>   &gt; If I have data similar to:
>   &gt; JOE001
>   &gt; JOE002
>   &gt; JOE003
>   &gt; JOE005
>   &gt; JOE006
>
>   &gt; Is there a way, using just SQL, to return the next available number
in the
>   &gt; sequence, JOE004, and be flexible enough to return JOE007 if JOE004
had
>   &gt; already existed?
>   &gt; Or do I have to use code to iterate through the records to check
for
>   &gt; &quot;holes&quot;?
>
>   Except for the indication of some malfunctioning during the design
>   state as already pointed out by others, there is:
>
>   &lt;SQL&gt;
>
>     SELECT TOP 1
>       TextID,
>       Left(TextID, Len(TextID)-3) &amp;
>         Right(String(3,&quot;0&quot;) &amp; Right(TextID,3)+1,3) AS NextID
>     FROM
>       tblID
>     WHERE
>       (Nz(
>         (Select Top 1
>           Val(Right(TextID,3))
>         From
>           tblID As T
>         Where
>           T.TextID &gt; tblID.TextID)
>         -Val(Right([TextID],3)),
>       2)&gt;1)
>     ORDER BY
>       tblID.TextID;
>
>   &lt;/SQL&gt;
>
>   All the &quot;3&quot;s count for the length of the numeric right part of
the
>   textid.
>   Note the &quot;magic 2&quot; in Nz() which cares for the return of the
last
>   textid if no &quot;holes&quot; exist.
>
>   /gustav
>
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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Thu Nov  4 07:41:47 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 08:41:47 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery - SUCCESSFUL
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C342@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

What a sigh of relief. Thank you so much.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MG
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:27 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery


Try a shortcut on your desk, (watch for word wrap) viz:
"C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\MSACCESS.EXE"
"C:\_MCM\MCMFrontEnd.mdb"  /wrkgrp  "\\Server\svr-c\MCM\MySystem.mdw"
/USER
max/PWD max123456789

Regards
Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: 04 November 2004 12:13
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery

My database is hooked to a .mdw.  During the development stage, I want
to
open up the database and bypass this nag screen that asks for the user
name
and password.  I have been googling, but can't find too much.
I would like the shortcut on my desktop to do it, I think.  But at this
point I will do just about anything to disconnect it while I am
developing.
Thanks, wise ones.
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov  4 08:42:37 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 15:42:37 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
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Hi Andy, Mark and A.D

> Gustav, I'm in awe!!! But I don't fully understand how it works. What does
> the:

> Nz((Select Top 1 Val(Right(TextID,3))

> return, and how does checking it being >1 spot the gaps?

Thanks!

It uses the numeric part of Joe's textid to find the next higher id
and the difference between these. This difference is, of course, 1
where no holes exist. If a hole is present, the difference will be 2
or larger.
However, if no holes are present, no difference is found and it is
Null and the expression with (Select ..)-Val(..) will be Null as well.
This is caught by Nz() here:

  Nz((Select ..)-Val(Right([TextID],3)),2)

which returns 2 for the "missing" hole at the last textid.
Finally textid is sorted and Top 1 is added to find the first hole
and only this.

/gustav



From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Nov  4 08:21:01 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 15:21:01 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
Message-ID: <20041104152057.BC43E254F24@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

I get it, but I wouldn't have dreamed that up in a million years. Hats off
to you Gustav.

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Date: 04/11/04 14:49

>
> Hi Andy, Mark and A.D
>
> &gt; Gustav, I'm in awe!!! But I don't fully understand how it works. What
does
> &gt; the:
>
> &gt; Nz((Select Top 1 Val(Right(TextID,3))
>
> &gt; return, and how does checking it being &gt;1 spot the gaps?
>
> Thanks!
>
> It uses the numeric part of Joe's textid to find the next higher id
> and the difference between these. This difference is, of course, 1
> where no holes exist. If a hole is present, the difference will be 2
> or larger.
> However, if no holes are present, no difference is found and it is
> Null and the expression with (Select ..)-Val(..) will be Null as well.
> This is caught by Nz() here:
>
>   Nz((Select ..)-Val(Right([TextID],3)),2)
>
> which returns 2 for the &quot;missing&quot; hole at the last textid.
> Finally textid is sorted and Top 1 is added to find the first hole
> and only this.
>
> /gustav
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From william.thompson1 at att.net  Thu Nov  4 09:48:58 2004
From: william.thompson1 at att.net (William Thompson)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 07:48:58 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Access FE Field Names with Spaces - in SQL Server BE
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Has it been anyone's experience either in Code, Form, Class or Procedure
where field names with spaces in a SQL Server backend caused a breakage,
with no work-around?  My primary concern is with unbound forms and passing
openargs to a popup form.

Assuming no view is used to translate or alter the field name?

I assume that all my field references will have to be altered to "[" &
fieldname & "]" - even the fields that already have bracketed table
definitions, like [Field With Spaces] in SQL Server.

Bill Thompson



From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Thu Nov  4 10:05:10 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 11:05:10 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access FE Field Names with Spaces - in SQL Server BE
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C347@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

I have not had a problem, and the psycho that created this SQL backend
used spaces, # signs, ? Marks, \ backslashes and asterisks in the field
names.  I have had to bracket all references to the field names and will
get around to changing them.

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BE



Has it been anyone's experience either in Code, Form, Class or Procedure
where field names with spaces in a SQL Server backend caused a breakage,
with no work-around?  My primary concern is with unbound forms and
passing
openargs to a popup form.

Assuming no view is used to translate or alter the field name?

I assume that all my field references will have to be altered to "[" &
fieldname & "]" - even the fields that already have bracketed table
definitions, like [Field With Spaces] in SQL Server.

Bill Thompson

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Nov  4 10:14:14 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 08:14:14 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B4A@infoserver01.infostat.local>

The uncompressible bloat occurs in a system table that doesn't exist in
the 2000 format, which is why we use that format for our data mdbs.  We
use the 2002 format for the front ends.  As long as some of our users
want to be able to use A2k or VB6 to work with the file, 2000 is the
preferred data format for us.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:54 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating



You can set the default DB type for new database between 200O or
2002/2003 in the option menu.

On my computer it is set tp 2002/2003, it is posible that I changed it
to 2002/2003 but I don't see the point having A2K3 and creating by
default new databases in 2000 format, seems pointless to me. I'll check
on my other computers, if I did changed that option, than probably not
on the those.

You can work and modify 2000 dababase files without converting in Access
2003. Maybe the bloat is still present in A2K3 when using A2K database.

Erwin

 
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Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 2:33 AM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

Are you sure?  I understood that A2K3 used the 2000 format by default.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 4:27 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating


Charlotte

As far as I know A2K3 uses the 2002/2003 format by default. Maybe I
changed it once in the options don't kown for sure, but anyway I did not
experianced some bloating in 2002/2003 format...

But I must confess I did not do any heavy developing yet in A2K3, I only
switched one major and big app recently from A2K to A2K3. Now I just
started a new app in A2K3, but I only started that yet...

Erwin


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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 9:27 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

As far as I know, the problem still exists in 2003, and the 2000 format
is still the default in that version.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 11:02 AM
To: AccessD (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating


List,

Has M$ addressed the database bloating issue in A2K3 I've read about on
the list?  We're in the process of converting our A97 apps to A2K3 and
I'm trying to decide between A2K format or A2K3.  Any suggestions?

TIA,

Jim DeMarco
Director Application Development
Hudson Health Plan
Tarrytown, NY


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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Thu Nov  4 10:10:48 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 11:10:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C348@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

What would you do if the PWD is null, none assigned in the .mdw?  AND...
Is it OK to store the .mdw reference on a shared drive on the network
instead of on an individual PCs folder?

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Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:27 AM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery


Try a shortcut on your desk, (watch for word wrap) viz:
"C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\MSACCESS.EXE"
"C:\_MCM\MCMFrontEnd.mdb"  /wrkgrp  "\\Server\svr-c\MCM\MySystem.mdw"
/USER
max/PWD max123456789

Regards
Max


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Subject: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery

My database is hooked to a .mdw.  During the development stage, I want
to
open up the database and bypass this nag screen that asks for the user
name
and password.  I have been googling, but can't find too much.
I would like the shortcut on my desktop to do it, I think.  But at this
point I will do just about anything to disconnect it while I am
developing.
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Thu Nov  4 10:42:15 2004
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 11:42:15 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A2757@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

With no password, if you pass the user name in the command line then the
worst you'll have to do is hit enter when the password dialog appears. Not
too arduous <g>.

There is little point in having the MDW file on the user's machine. If you
needed to move them into a different user group you would have to visit the
workstation to do that. So the MDW should always be centrally stored,
available to all users.  But note, the MDW is in fact just a plain ordinary
MDB file with a different extension. As such it is subject to all the usual
corruption risks, so I should be sure to backup the file at least once every
day.

If you do get a corruption of the MDW file, usually it is enough to open it
with Access (from the File, Open menu) and run a Repair on it.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
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> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen
> Sent:	Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:11 AM
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> Subject:	[AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
> 
> What would you do if the PWD is null, none assigned in the .mdw?  AND...
> Is it OK to store the .mdw reference on a shared drive on the network
> instead of on an individual PCs folder?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MG
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:27 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery
> 
> 
> Try a shortcut on your desk, (watch for word wrap) viz:
> "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\MSACCESS.EXE"
> "C:\_MCM\MCMFrontEnd.mdb"  /wrkgrp  "\\Server\svr-c\MCM\MySystem.mdw"
> /USER
> max/PWD max123456789
> 
> Regards
> Max
> 
> 
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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
> Karen
> Sent: 04 November 2004 12:13
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery
> 
> My database is hooked to a .mdw.  During the development stage, I want
> to
> open up the database and bypass this nag screen that asks for the user
> name
> and password.  I have been googling, but can't find too much.
> I would like the shortcut on my desktop to do it, I think.  But at this
> point I will do just about anything to disconnect it while I am
> developing.
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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Thu Nov  4 11:05:00 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 12:05:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C34A@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

That is what I was thinking - why put it on a user's machine?  So that
makes sense.  The backend is now in SQL and the security for the tables
is ruled by SQL.  I can put something in the start up of the app to
identify the lan user id, and if they are not in my group of users, then
out they go.

So... How does one get rid of the reference to the .mdw once one has
been established?  If I open up any Access database, this stoopid thing
runs.  On the web, it is telling me to re-install Access.  Must be a
better way.

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Lambert
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:42 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; Nicholson, Karen
Subject: RE: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op


With no password, if you pass the user name in the command line then the
worst you'll have to do is hit enter when the password dialog appears.
Not
too arduous <g>.

There is little point in having the MDW file on the user's machine. If
you
needed to move them into a different user group you would have to visit
the
workstation to do that. So the MDW should always be centrally stored,
available to all users.  But note, the MDW is in fact just a plain
ordinary
MDB file with a different extension. As such it is subject to all the
usual
corruption risks, so I should be sure to backup the file at least once
every
day.

If you do get a corruption of the MDW file, usually it is enough to open
it
with Access (from the File, Open menu) and run a Repair on it.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
> Sent:	Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:11 AM
> To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject:	[AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
> 
> What would you do if the PWD is null, none assigned in the .mdw?
AND...
> Is it OK to store the .mdw reference on a shared drive on the network
> instead of on an individual PCs folder?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MG
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:27 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery
> 
> 
> Try a shortcut on your desk, (watch for word wrap) viz:
> "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\MSACCESS.EXE"
> "C:\_MCM\MCMFrontEnd.mdb"  /wrkgrp  "\\Server\svr-c\MCM\MySystem.mdw"
> /USER
> max/PWD max123456789
> 
> Regards
> Max
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
> Karen
> Sent: 04 November 2004 12:13
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery
> 
> My database is hooked to a .mdw.  During the development stage, I want
> to
> open up the database and bypass this nag screen that asks for the user
> name
> and password.  I have been googling, but can't find too much.
> I would like the shortcut on my desktop to do it, I think.  But at
this
> point I will do just about anything to disconnect it while I am
> developing.
> Thanks, wise ones.
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov  4 11:38:04 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 18:38:04 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
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Message-ID: <034895887.20041104183804@cactus.dk>

Hi Karen

If the password is empty and you completely remove the /pwd parameter
from the command line of the shortcut, the dialog will not pop up.

/gustav


> That is what I was thinking - why put it on a user's machine?  So that
> makes sense.  The backend is now in SQL and the security for the tables
> is ruled by SQL.  I can put something in the start up of the app to
> identify the lan user id, and if they are not in my group of users, then
> out they go.

> So... How does one get rid of the reference to the .mdw once one has
> been established?  If I open up any Access database, this stoopid thing
> runs.  On the web, it is telling me to re-install Access.  Must be a
> better way.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan,
> Lambert
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:42 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; Nicholson, Karen
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op


> With no password, if you pass the user name in the command line then the
> worst you'll have to do is hit enter when the password dialog appears.
> Not
> too arduous <g>.

> There is little point in having the MDW file on the user's machine. If you
> needed to move them into a different user group you would have to visit the
> workstation to do that. So the MDW should always be centrally stored,
> available to all users.  But note, the MDW is in fact just a plain ordinary
> MDB file with a different extension. As such it is subject to all the usual
> corruption risks, so I should be sure to backup the file at least once every
> day.

> If you do get a corruption of the MDW file, usually it is enough to open it
> with Access (from the File, Open menu) and run a Repair on it.

> Lambert

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen
>> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:11 AM
>> To:   Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject:      [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
>> 
>> What would you do if the PWD is null, none assigned in the .mdw? AND...
>> Is it OK to store the .mdw reference on a shared drive on the network
>> instead of on an individual PCs folder?
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MG
>> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:27 AM
>> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>> Subject: RE: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery
>> 
>> 
>> Try a shortcut on your desk, (watch for word wrap) viz:
>> "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\MSACCESS.EXE"
>> "C:\_MCM\MCMFrontEnd.mdb"  /wrkgrp  "\\Server\svr-c\MCM\MySystem.mdw"
>> /USER
>> max/PWD max123456789
>> 
>> Regards
>> Max
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
>> Karen
>> Sent: 04 November 2004 12:13
>> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>> Subject: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery
>> 
>> My database is hooked to a .mdw.  During the development stage, I want
>> to
>> open up the database and bypass this nag screen that asks for the user
>> name
>> and password.  I have been googling, but can't find too much.
>> I would like the shortcut on my desktop to do it, I think.  But at this
>> point I will do just about anything to disconnect it while I am
>> developing.
>> Thanks, wise ones.
>> --



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Nov  4 11:48:21 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 09:48:21 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B4C@infoserver01.infostat.local>

You join a workgroup, whether you realize it or not, when you open
Access or when you use the workgroup administrator to join one.  By
default, the system.mdw on the local machine is the workgroup unless you
join another one.  Using a shortcut allows you to specify the workgroup
on the server for that session without changing the default workgroup.
That should solve your problem.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholson, Karen [mailto:cyx5 at cdc.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 9:05 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op


That is what I was thinking - why put it on a user's machine?  So that
makes sense.  The backend is now in SQL and the security for the tables
is ruled by SQL.  I can put something in the start up of the app to
identify the lan user id, and if they are not in my group of users, then
out they go.

So... How does one get rid of the reference to the .mdw once one has
been established?  If I open up any Access database, this stoopid thing
runs.  On the web, it is telling me to re-install Access.  Must be a
better way.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:42 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; Nicholson, Karen
Subject: RE: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op


With no password, if you pass the user name in the command line then the
worst you'll have to do is hit enter when the password dialog appears.
Not too arduous <g>.

There is little point in having the MDW file on the user's machine. If
you needed to move them into a different user group you would have to
visit the workstation to do that. So the MDW should always be centrally
stored, available to all users.  But note, the MDW is in fact just a
plain ordinary MDB file with a different extension. As such it is
subject to all the usual corruption risks, so I should be sure to backup
the file at least once every day.

If you do get a corruption of the MDW file, usually it is enough to open
it with Access (from the File, Open menu) and run a Repair on it.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
> Sent:	Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:11 AM
> To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject:	[AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
> 
> What would you do if the PWD is null, none assigned in the .mdw?
AND...
> Is it OK to store the .mdw reference on a shared drive on the network 
> instead of on an individual PCs folder?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MG
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:27 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery
> 
> 
> Try a shortcut on your desk, (watch for word wrap) viz: "C:\Program 
> Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\MSACCESS.EXE" 
> "C:\_MCM\MCMFrontEnd.mdb"  /wrkgrp  "\\Server\svr-c\MCM\MySystem.mdw" 
> /USER max/PWD max123456789
> 
> Regards
> Max
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson, 
> Karen
> Sent: 04 November 2004 12:13
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery
> 
> My database is hooked to a .mdw.  During the development stage, I want

> to open up the database and bypass this nag screen that asks for the 
> user name
> and password.  I have been googling, but can't find too much.
> I would like the shortcut on my desktop to do it, I think.  But at
this
> point I will do just about anything to disconnect it while I am 
> developing. Thanks, wise ones.
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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Thu Nov  4 12:08:43 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 13:08:43 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C34C@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

Yeppers.  I have met with management and we have decided that the custom
.mdw is outdated technology for our purposes.  YEAH!!!  Now I just have
to go point 25 users back to the system.mdw that came with their package
and not worry about it.  All the security we need is table level and I
have cranked that down on SQL server.  

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 12:48 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op


You join a workgroup, whether you realize it or not, when you open
Access or when you use the workgroup administrator to join one.  By
default, the system.mdw on the local machine is the workgroup unless you
join another one.  Using a shortcut allows you to specify the workgroup
on the server for that session without changing the default workgroup.
That should solve your problem.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholson, Karen [mailto:cyx5 at cdc.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 9:05 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op


That is what I was thinking - why put it on a user's machine?  So that
makes sense.  The backend is now in SQL and the security for the tables
is ruled by SQL.  I can put something in the start up of the app to
identify the lan user id, and if they are not in my group of users, then
out they go.

So... How does one get rid of the reference to the .mdw once one has
been established?  If I open up any Access database, this stoopid thing
runs.  On the web, it is telling me to re-install Access.  Must be a
better way.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:42 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; Nicholson, Karen
Subject: RE: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op


With no password, if you pass the user name in the command line then the
worst you'll have to do is hit enter when the password dialog appears.
Not too arduous <g>.

There is little point in having the MDW file on the user's machine. If
you needed to move them into a different user group you would have to
visit the workstation to do that. So the MDW should always be centrally
stored, available to all users.  But note, the MDW is in fact just a
plain ordinary MDB file with a different extension. As such it is
subject to all the usual corruption risks, so I should be sure to backup
the file at least once every day.

If you do get a corruption of the MDW file, usually it is enough to open
it with Access (from the File, Open menu) and run a Repair on it.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
> Sent:	Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:11 AM
> To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject:	[AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
> 
> What would you do if the PWD is null, none assigned in the .mdw?
AND...
> Is it OK to store the .mdw reference on a shared drive on the network 
> instead of on an individual PCs folder?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MG
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:27 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery
> 
> 
> Try a shortcut on your desk, (watch for word wrap) viz: "C:\Program 
> Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\MSACCESS.EXE" 
> "C:\_MCM\MCMFrontEnd.mdb"  /wrkgrp  "\\Server\svr-c\MCM\MySystem.mdw" 
> /USER max/PWD max123456789
> 
> Regards
> Max
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson, 
> Karen
> Sent: 04 November 2004 12:13
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery
> 
> My database is hooked to a .mdw.  During the development stage, I want

> to open up the database and bypass this nag screen that asks for the 
> user name
> and password.  I have been googling, but can't find too much.
> I would like the shortcut on my desktop to do it, I think.  But at
this
> point I will do just about anything to disconnect it while I am 
> developing. Thanks, wise ones.
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Thu Nov  4 12:08:54 2004
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 13:08:54 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A2759@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

When you first started working with this new MDW file you must have joined
the workgroup using Wrkgadm.exe (in WINNT\SYSTEM32). All you need to do is
rejoin the default workgroup by running Wrkgadm.exe and choosing the default
MDW file in C:\WINNT\system32\system.mdw. Then Access won't ask for a
password each time you run it.

Using the shortcut that specifies the workgroup file avoids this problem
completely.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen
> Sent:	Thursday, November 04, 2004 12:05 PM
> To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject:	RE: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
> 
> That is what I was thinking - why put it on a user's machine?  So that
> makes sense.  The backend is now in SQL and the security for the tables
> is ruled by SQL.  I can put something in the start up of the app to
> identify the lan user id, and if they are not in my group of users, then
> out they go.
> 
> So... How does one get rid of the reference to the .mdw once one has
> been established?  If I open up any Access database, this stoopid thing
> runs.  On the web, it is telling me to re-install Access.  Must be a
> better way.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan,
> Lambert
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:42 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; Nicholson, Karen
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
> 
> 
> With no password, if you pass the user name in the command line then the
> worst you'll have to do is hit enter when the password dialog appears.
> Not
> too arduous <g>.
> 
> There is little point in having the MDW file on the user's machine. If
> you
> needed to move them into a different user group you would have to visit
> the
> workstation to do that. So the MDW should always be centrally stored,
> available to all users.  But note, the MDW is in fact just a plain
> ordinary
> MDB file with a different extension. As such it is subject to all the
> usual
> corruption risks, so I should be sure to backup the file at least once
> every
> day.
> 
> If you do get a corruption of the MDW file, usually it is enough to open
> it
> with Access (from the File, Open menu) and run a Repair on it.
> 
> Lambert
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
> Karen
> > Sent:	Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:11 AM
> > To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject:	[AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
> > 
> > What would you do if the PWD is null, none assigned in the .mdw?
> AND...
> > Is it OK to store the .mdw reference on a shared drive on the network
> > instead of on an individual PCs folder?
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MG
> > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:27 AM
> > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery
> > 
> > 
> > Try a shortcut on your desk, (watch for word wrap) viz:
> > "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\MSACCESS.EXE"
> > "C:\_MCM\MCMFrontEnd.mdb"  /wrkgrp  "\\Server\svr-c\MCM\MySystem.mdw"
> > /USER
> > max/PWD max123456789
> > 
> > Regards
> > Max
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
> > Karen
> > Sent: 04 November 2004 12:13
> > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery
> > 
> > My database is hooked to a .mdw.  During the development stage, I want
> > to
> > open up the database and bypass this nag screen that asks for the user
> > name
> > and password.  I have been googling, but can't find too much.
> > I would like the shortcut on my desktop to do it, I think.  But at
> this
> > point I will do just about anything to disconnect it while I am
> > developing.
> > Thanks, wise ones.
> > --
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From CMackin at quiznos.com  Thu Nov  4 12:49:00 2004
From: CMackin at quiznos.com (Mackin, Christopher)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 11:49:00 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
Message-ID: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27F0D0@snowmass.quiznos.net>

Alternatively, if you have a large group of users pointing to a particular .mdw on the network you can simply archive the current .mdw and copy your system.mdw into the network folder and rename it to match the currently used one.

That saves having to rejoin workgroups and leaves you with the option of reverting to the old security by just replacing the file.

-Chris Mackin

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:09 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'Nicholson,
Karen'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op


When you first started working with this new MDW file you must have joined
the workgroup using Wrkgadm.exe (in WINNT\SYSTEM32). All you need to do is
rejoin the default workgroup by running Wrkgadm.exe and choosing the default
MDW file in C:\WINNT\system32\system.mdw. Then Access won't ask for a
password each time you run it.

Using the shortcut that specifies the workgroup file avoids this problem
completely.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen
> Sent:	Thursday, November 04, 2004 12:05 PM
> To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject:	RE: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
> 
> That is what I was thinking - why put it on a user's machine?  So that
> makes sense.  The backend is now in SQL and the security for the tables
> is ruled by SQL.  I can put something in the start up of the app to
> identify the lan user id, and if they are not in my group of users, then
> out they go.
> 
> So... How does one get rid of the reference to the .mdw once one has
> been established?  If I open up any Access database, this stoopid thing
> runs.  On the web, it is telling me to re-install Access.  Must be a
> better way.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan,
> Lambert
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:42 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; Nicholson, Karen
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
> 
> 
> With no password, if you pass the user name in the command line then the
> worst you'll have to do is hit enter when the password dialog appears.
> Not
> too arduous <g>.
> 
> There is little point in having the MDW file on the user's machine. If
> you
> needed to move them into a different user group you would have to visit
> the
> workstation to do that. So the MDW should always be centrally stored,
> available to all users.  But note, the MDW is in fact just a plain
> ordinary
> MDB file with a different extension. As such it is subject to all the
> usual
> corruption risks, so I should be sure to backup the file at least once
> every
> day.
> 
> If you do get a corruption of the MDW file, usually it is enough to open
> it
> with Access (from the File, Open menu) and run a Repair on it.
> 
> Lambert
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
> Karen
> > Sent:	Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:11 AM
> > To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject:	[AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
> > 
> > What would you do if the PWD is null, none assigned in the .mdw?
> AND...
> > Is it OK to store the .mdw reference on a shared drive on the network
> > instead of on an individual PCs folder?
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MG
> > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:27 AM
> > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery
> > 
> > 
> > Try a shortcut on your desk, (watch for word wrap) viz:
> > "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\MSACCESS.EXE"
> > "C:\_MCM\MCMFrontEnd.mdb"  /wrkgrp  "\\Server\svr-c\MCM\MySystem.mdw"
> > /USER
> > max/PWD max123456789
> > 
> > Regards
> > Max
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
> > Karen
> > Sent: 04 November 2004 12:13
> > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery
> > 
> > My database is hooked to a .mdw.  During the development stage, I want
> > to
> > open up the database and bypass this nag screen that asks for the user
> > name
> > and password.  I have been googling, but can't find too much.
> > I would like the shortcut on my desktop to do it, I think.  But at
> this
> > point I will do just about anything to disconnect it while I am
> > developing.
> > Thanks, wise ones.
> > --
> > _______________________________________________
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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Thu Nov  4 12:54:11 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 12:54:11 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
In-Reply-To: <200411041800.iA4I0tL32297@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041104125319.04d3fea0@pop3.highstream.net>

Lonnie

I think CTRL-P will do it for you.

Robert

At 12:00 PM 11/4/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>   From: Lonnie Johnson
>   To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu' ; AccessDevelopers ; ms_access ; 
> AccessD solving'
>   Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 7:10 AM
>   Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
>
>
>   Hello all,
>
>   I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just 
> shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)
>
>   Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As 
> Long) As Long
>   Dim dwReturn As Long
>   Const SW_HIDE = 0
>   Const SW_SHOWNORMAL = 1
>   Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....
>
>   It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview 
> reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?
>
>   I know there is an answer out there somewhere!
>
>   Thanks in advance.




From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Thu Nov  4 13:27:03 2004
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 14:27:03 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F84@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Arthur,

I was not expecting the database to act intelligently. To be honest I was
not expecting there to even be a solution to this although Gustav figured it
out!

I have an Access database that I used to keep track of the computers at my
company. The computer naming convention that I use is TNCO###. One of the
fields in the table is used for storing the computer name. If I remove a
computer from our network and physical remove it from the company, I would
like to be able to reuse that computer name instead of just using the next
sequential number. To me I do not see it as concatenating two column values
into one but I could be wrong. What do you think Arthur?

JR

-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 4:44 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL

Joe Rojas wrote:

>Hi All,
>If I have data similar to:
>JOE001
>JOE002
>JOE003
>JOE005
>JOE006
>
>Is there a way, using just SQL, to return the next available number in the
>sequence, JOE004, and be flexible enough to return JOE007 if JOE004 had
>already existed?
>Or do I have to use code to iterate through the records to check for
>"holes"?
>
>Thanks!
>JR
>
>
>
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IMHO something is wrong with this design. You are packing two columns
into one and expecting the database to act intelligently: unfair. If you
really need this column, consider adding two more columns, one with each
fragment and then concatenating the result in the column you have. The
problem becomes much simpler with this approach.

But back to the start. Why are you concatenating two column values into one?

A.
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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Thu Nov  4 13:33:17 2004
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 14:33:17 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F85@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Wow! Thanks Gustav! Great SQL!

JR

-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 4:52 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL

Hi Joe

> If I have data similar to:
> JOE001
> JOE002
> JOE003
> JOE005
> JOE006

> Is there a way, using just SQL, to return the next available number in the
> sequence, JOE004, and be flexible enough to return JOE007 if JOE004 had
> already existed?
> Or do I have to use code to iterate through the records to check for
> "holes"?

Except for the indication of some malfunctioning during the design
state as already pointed out by others, there is:

<SQL>

  SELECT TOP 1
    TextID,
    Left(TextID, Len(TextID)-3) &
      Right(String(3,"0") & Right(TextID,3)+1,3) AS NextID
  FROM
    tblID
  WHERE
    (Nz(
      (Select Top 1
        Val(Right(TextID,3))
      From
        tblID As T
      Where
        T.TextID > tblID.TextID)
      -Val(Right([TextID],3)),
    2)>1)
  ORDER BY
    tblID.TextID;

</SQL>

All the "3"s count for the length of the numeric right part of the
textid.
Note the "magic 2" in Nz() which cares for the return of the last
textid if no "holes" exist.

/gustav

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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Thu Nov  4 13:37:50 2004
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 19:37:50 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
Message-ID: <BAY101-F26VuMhvqgSt0001e477@hotmail.com>

I also was impressed...and from looking at it...you could use the same 
concept to fill in missing dates in a given date range.

Thanks for the direction.

Mark A. Matte

>From: "Andy Lacey" <andy at minstersystems.co.uk>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
>Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 15:21:01 +0100
>
>I get it, but I wouldn't have dreamed that up in a million years. Hats off
>to you Gustav.
>
>--
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>http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>
>
>
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>From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
>Date: 04/11/04 14:49
>
> >
> > Hi Andy, Mark and A.D
> >
> > &gt; Gustav, I'm in awe!!! But I don't fully understand how it works. 
>What
>does
> > &gt; the:
> >
> > &gt; Nz((Select Top 1 Val(Right(TextID,3))
> >
> > &gt; return, and how does checking it being &gt;1 spot the gaps?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > It uses the numeric part of Joe's textid to find the next higher id
> > and the difference between these. This difference is, of course, 1
> > where no holes exist. If a hole is present, the difference will be 2
> > or larger.
> > However, if no holes are present, no difference is found and it is
> > Null and the expression with (Select ..)-Val(..) will be Null as well.
> > This is caught by Nz() here:
> >
> >   Nz((Select ..)-Val(Right([TextID],3)),2)
> >
> > which returns 2 for the &quot;missing&quot; hole at the last textid.
> > Finally textid is sorted and Top 1 is added to find the first hole
> > and only this.
> >
> > /gustav
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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Thu Nov  4 14:15:56 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 15:15:56 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C357@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

Not so lucky; the .mdw is on the workstations, buried.  Life is getting
easier, though.  I have the front end updater working and it is like a
birthday party for them!

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mackin,
Christopher
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 1:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op


Alternatively, if you have a large group of users pointing to a
particular .mdw on the network you can simply archive the current .mdw
and copy your system.mdw into the network folder and rename it to match
the currently used one.

That saves having to rejoin workgroups and leaves you with the option of
reverting to the old security by just replacing the file.

-Chris Mackin

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:09 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'Nicholson,
Karen'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op


When you first started working with this new MDW file you must have
joined
the workgroup using Wrkgadm.exe (in WINNT\SYSTEM32). All you need to do
is
rejoin the default workgroup by running Wrkgadm.exe and choosing the
default
MDW file in C:\WINNT\system32\system.mdw. Then Access won't ask for a
password each time you run it.

Using the shortcut that specifies the workgroup file avoids this problem
completely.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
> Sent:	Thursday, November 04, 2004 12:05 PM
> To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject:	RE: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
> 
> That is what I was thinking - why put it on a user's machine?  So that
> makes sense.  The backend is now in SQL and the security for the
tables
> is ruled by SQL.  I can put something in the start up of the app to
> identify the lan user id, and if they are not in my group of users,
then
> out they go.
> 
> So... How does one get rid of the reference to the .mdw once one has
> been established?  If I open up any Access database, this stoopid
thing
> runs.  On the web, it is telling me to re-install Access.  Must be a
> better way.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan,
> Lambert
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:42 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; Nicholson,
Karen
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
> 
> 
> With no password, if you pass the user name in the command line then
the
> worst you'll have to do is hit enter when the password dialog appears.
> Not
> too arduous <g>.
> 
> There is little point in having the MDW file on the user's machine. If
> you
> needed to move them into a different user group you would have to
visit
> the
> workstation to do that. So the MDW should always be centrally stored,
> available to all users.  But note, the MDW is in fact just a plain
> ordinary
> MDB file with a different extension. As such it is subject to all the
> usual
> corruption risks, so I should be sure to backup the file at least once
> every
> day.
> 
> If you do get a corruption of the MDW file, usually it is enough to
open
> it
> with Access (from the File, Open menu) and run a Repair on it.
> 
> Lambert
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
> Karen
> > Sent:	Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:11 AM
> > To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject:	[AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
> > 
> > What would you do if the PWD is null, none assigned in the .mdw?
> AND...
> > Is it OK to store the .mdw reference on a shared drive on the
network
> > instead of on an individual PCs folder?
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MG
> > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:27 AM
> > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery
> > 
> > 
> > Try a shortcut on your desk, (watch for word wrap) viz:
> > "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\MSACCESS.EXE"
> > "C:\_MCM\MCMFrontEnd.mdb"  /wrkgrp
"\\Server\svr-c\MCM\MySystem.mdw"
> > /USER
> > max/PWD max123456789
> > 
> > Regards
> > Max
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Nicholson,
> > Karen
> > Sent: 04 November 2004 12:13
> > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery
> > 
> > My database is hooked to a .mdw.  During the development stage, I
want
> > to
> > open up the database and bypass this nag screen that asks for the
user
> > name
> > and password.  I have been googling, but can't find too much.
> > I would like the shortcut on my desktop to do it, I think.  But at
> this
> > point I will do just about anything to disconnect it while I am
> > developing.
> > Thanks, wise ones.
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Thu Nov  4 16:23:21 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 09:23:21 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?
Message-ID: <001a01c4c2bc$e524a240$6401a8c0@user>

Hoping someone can shed some light here....

A client using Windows 2000 Pro and Access 2000 has been using an mdb written in Access 2000 for several years. But this week when I installed an upgrade (same platform), the Date() functions throw errors, as do the Format() functions.

They have a critical error at the moment caused by Date() notworking which I need to fix today. I know I could modify these functions to use, eg. Now(), but is this a MDAC problem? Mine is MDAC 2.7 on Windows XP SP1. 

If I asked my client to download MDAC 2.8 (which I see is the latest) - is this going to solve the problem?

I do not understand how this upgrade could possible have afftected the use of these functions??

Thanks

Kath


From john at winhaven.net  Thu Nov  4 16:25:57 2004
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 16:25:57 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Form creep bug
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C357@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKIIECEGCAA.john@winhaven.net>

Does anyone remember any details about the bug that makes access forms creep
a little bit to to the side of the screen until the close button is hidden?
Was that Access or some form resizer control/method or what?

John B.




From CMackin at quiznos.com  Thu Nov  4 16:29:43 2004
From: CMackin at quiznos.com (Mackin, Christopher)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 15:29:43 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?
Message-ID: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27F0D6@snowmass.quiznos.net>

I would rule out a missing reference issue first, but if that's not the case then it could be an MDAC issue, I've had that in the past, but a few years ago, I believe it was MDAC 2.5 or 2.6 that was problematic.

-Chris Mackin

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 3:23 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


Hoping someone can shed some light here....

A client using Windows 2000 Pro and Access 2000 has been using an mdb written in Access 2000 for several years. But this week when I installed an upgrade (same platform), the Date() functions throw errors, as do the Format() functions.

They have a critical error at the moment caused by Date() notworking which I need to fix today. I know I could modify these functions to use, eg. Now(), but is this a MDAC problem? Mine is MDAC 2.7 on Windows XP SP1. 

If I asked my client to download MDAC 2.8 (which I see is the latest) - is this going to solve the problem?

I do not understand how this upgrade could possible have afftected the use of these functions??

Thanks

Kath
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Thu Nov  4 16:36:58 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 09:36:58 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?
References: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27F0D6@snowmass.quiznos.net>
Message-ID: <003301c4c2be$cbccade0$6401a8c0@user>

Chris - I checked the references on site and found none missing...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mackin, Christopher 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 9:29 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


  I would rule out a missing reference issue first, but if that's not the case then it could be an MDAC issue, I've had that in the past, but a few years ago, I believe it was MDAC 2.5 or 2.6 that was problematic.

  -Chris Mackin

  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 3:23 PM
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
  Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


  Hoping someone can shed some light here....

  A client using Windows 2000 Pro and Access 2000 has been using an mdb written in Access 2000 for several years. But this week when I installed an upgrade (same platform), the Date() functions throw errors, as do the Format() functions.

  They have a critical error at the moment caused by Date() notworking which I need to fix today. I know I could modify these functions to use, eg. Now(), but is this a MDAC problem? Mine is MDAC 2.7 on Windows XP SP1. 

  If I asked my client to download MDAC 2.8 (which I see is the latest) - is this going to solve the problem?

  I do not understand how this upgrade could possible have afftected the use of these functions??

  Thanks

  Kath
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Thu Nov  4 16:45:26 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 09:45:26 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?
References: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27F0D6@snowmass.quiznos.net>
	<003301c4c2be$cbccade0$6401a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <00ac01c4c2c0$ae799710$6401a8c0@user>

I have found that there is a difference in the order of the DAO / ADO references....

The reference to DAO in the latest release is above the ADO reference.

Could this throw the error with Date()?

Kath

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kath Pelletti 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 9:36 AM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


  Chris - I checked the references on site and found none missing...
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Mackin, Christopher 
    To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
    Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 9:29 AM
    Subject: RE: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


    I would rule out a missing reference issue first, but if that's not the case then it could be an MDAC issue, I've had that in the past, but a few years ago, I believe it was MDAC 2.5 or 2.6 that was problematic.

    -Chris Mackin

    -----Original Message-----
    From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
    [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
    Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 3:23 PM
    To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
    Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


    Hoping someone can shed some light here....

    A client using Windows 2000 Pro and Access 2000 has been using an mdb written in Access 2000 for several years. But this week when I installed an upgrade (same platform), the Date() functions throw errors, as do the Format() functions.

    They have a critical error at the moment caused by Date() notworking which I need to fix today. I know I could modify these functions to use, eg. Now(), but is this a MDAC problem? Mine is MDAC 2.7 on Windows XP SP1. 

    If I asked my client to download MDAC 2.8 (which I see is the latest) - is this going to solve the problem?

    I do not understand how this upgrade could possible have afftected the use of these functions??

    Thanks

    Kath
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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Thu Nov  4 16:51:15 2004
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 14:51:15 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] A2K, Export to Excel
Message-ID: <b874372a041104145114a01aa2@mail.gmail.com>

A friend has a query, and is exporting the results to an excel file,
for some reason the numeric (dollar) values are converted to string in
excel (the single ' quote problem) it's easy enough to convert excel
to see it as a numeric but why?

thanks,
-- 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Nov  4 17:04:58 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 09:04:58 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
In-Reply-To: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F84@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <418B423A.16918.18E65D38@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 4 Nov 2004 at 14:27, Joe Rojas wrote:

> Arthur,
> 
> I was not expecting the database to act intelligently. To be honest I was
> not expecting there to even be a solution to this although Gustav figured it
> out!
> 
> I have an Access database that I used to keep track of the computers at my
> company. The computer naming convention that I use is TNCO###. One of the
> fields in the table is used for storing the computer name. If I remove a
> computer from our network and physical remove it from the company, I would
> like to be able to reuse that computer name instead of just using the next
> sequential number. To me I do not see it as concatenating two column values
> into one but I could be wrong. What do you think Arthur?
> 

If you *always* use the same initial characters, you could just store the 
numeric value in the table and display them formatted as "TNCO"000  

-- 
Stuart




From dwaters at usinternet.com  Thu Nov  4 18:13:37 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 18:13:37 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?
In-Reply-To: <8246256.1099611287819.JavaMail.root@sniper11.usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <000601c4c2cc$4c4ae470$de1811d8@danwaters>

Kath,

A few years ago I noticed this problem on a few computers, and it was a
sporadic problem.  To get around it I put the following in a standard
module:

Public Function CurrentDate() As Date

    CurrentDate = CDate(DatePart("m", Now()) & "/" & DatePart("d", Now()) _
	& "/" & DatePart("yyyy", Now()))

    Exit Function

End Function

Now whenever I need the current date I just write:  txtDate = CurrentDate

No problems for several years now!

Dan Waters
ProMation Systems

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 4:23 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?

Hoping someone can shed some light here....

A client using Windows 2000 Pro and Access 2000 has been using an mdb
written in Access 2000 for several years. But this week when I installed an
upgrade (same platform), the Date() functions throw errors, as do the
Format() functions.

They have a critical error at the moment caused by Date() notworking which I
need to fix today. I know I could modify these functions to use, eg. Now(),
but is this a MDAC problem? Mine is MDAC 2.7 on Windows XP SP1. 

If I asked my client to download MDAC 2.8 (which I see is the latest) - is
this going to solve the problem?

I do not understand how this upgrade could possible have afftected the use
of these functions??

Thanks

Kath
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Thu Nov  4 18:14:47 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 11:14:47 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] MDAC - more
Message-ID: <017101c4c2cc$75fbf520$6401a8c0@user>

Gurus - further to my client who has format() and date() no longer working - he is on Windows 2KPro, with Access 2000.

I got him to run the MDAC component checker from Microsoft and it came up with MDAC version 2.5 sp 2.0.

My next step would be to ask him to update his MDAC to the 2.8 version - before I do that - are there any possible disadvantages??

Thanks

Kath



From KP at sdsonline.net  Thu Nov  4 18:23:30 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 11:23:30 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?
References: <000601c4c2cc$4c4ae470$de1811d8@danwaters>
Message-ID: <017d01c4c2cd$ad8b5390$6401a8c0@user>

That seems wise Dan - I haven't had this issue since Win98 users experienced same problem. And I am absolutely stumped how a PC which has had no changes to the OS or applications can suddenly get errors when I install a new mdb. In other words, last week their previous version of the same mdb gave them no errors with these same functions. Suddenly they start appearing and cause a critical process to fall over.

I think that I will pull out all references to Date() and use of Format() functions - but that's tricky to do today.

Kath

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dan Waters 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 11:13 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


  Kath,

  A few years ago I noticed this problem on a few computers, and it was a
  sporadic problem.  To get around it I put the following in a standard
  module:

  Public Function CurrentDate() As Date

      CurrentDate = CDate(DatePart("m", Now()) & "/" & DatePart("d", Now()) _
  & "/" & DatePart("yyyy", Now()))

      Exit Function

  End Function

  Now whenever I need the current date I just write:  txtDate = CurrentDate

  No problems for several years now!

  Dan Waters
  ProMation Systems

  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 4:23 PM
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
  Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?

  Hoping someone can shed some light here....

  A client using Windows 2000 Pro and Access 2000 has been using an mdb
  written in Access 2000 for several years. But this week when I installed an
  upgrade (same platform), the Date() functions throw errors, as do the
  Format() functions.

  They have a critical error at the moment caused by Date() notworking which I
  need to fix today. I know I could modify these functions to use, eg. Now(),
  but is this a MDAC problem? Mine is MDAC 2.7 on Windows XP SP1. 

  If I asked my client to download MDAC 2.8 (which I see is the latest) - is
  this going to solve the problem?

  I do not understand how this upgrade could possible have afftected the use
  of these functions??

  Thanks

  Kath
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Thu Nov  4 18:24:57 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 11:24:57 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Can't delete or change missing references
References: <20041102201001.60145.qmail@web20424.mail.yahoo.com><001a01c4c221$c14f3740$6401a8c0@user>
	<03e601c4c225$2eed7930$6401a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <018701c4c2cd$e168c300$6401a8c0@user>

Michael - thanks for this by the way - no luck there either. Even when I delete the form and all code referring to Frontpage I am still unable to remove or change those missing references. 

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Michael R Mattys 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 3:17 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Online Access groups


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Kath Pelletti" <KP at sdsonline.net>
  To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
  <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
  Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:52 PM
  Subject: [AccessD] OT: Online Access groups


  Lonnie - just a quick OT - I notice that your post also went to other Access
  groups - do you find them as useful as AccessD?

  Kath
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Lonnie Johnson
    To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu' ; AccessDevelopers ; ms_access ;
  AccessD solving'


  Now hold on there, Kath, let's see ... um, hm ... try this:

  Application.SaveAsText acForm, "FormName", "DesiredPath"

  I'm thinking that if there's a FrontPage control on this form that
  you can just delete it from the text file, delete the form, remove the
  bad ref, and then import that file right back in as a form.

  ----

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  Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
  http://www.mattysconsulting.com

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From mastercafe at ctv.es  Thu Nov  4 20:06:15 2004
From: mastercafe at ctv.es (MastercafeCTV)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 03:06:15 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2k on W2k vs A2k on WinXP
In-Reply-To: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F85@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <003401c4c2dc$17f03b70$0500a8c0@masterserv>

We install on one computer this week WinXP with Office XP dev. Ed
On some application we discover that if we open and run we can't modify
anything this only occur on WinXP same process on Win2k Access permit to us
modify and save without problem.
We try to make some changes before run the application and this is ok, and
run Swichtboard only and run OK, but if we execute a simple query opening
and writing over this application (any table) then we can't do changes.

Why? Why Win2k permit to do this and WinXP not??

Thanks for any ideas


Juan



From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Nov  4 19:55:38 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 12:55:38 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Speed up access over a network
Message-ID: <200411050155.iA51tmXH015988@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hello all
I realise the q is very broad and has a million possible suggestions
That's what I'm after
 
I have a client who I am developing an app for. So far they are very
pleased.
But just the other day....They now want to be able to use the app 
after hours at home on their laptops. (And they are prepared to pay for this
major re-direction)
 
So this means connecting (in some cases) to the back end using dial up
<Sheesh>
 
Am I in the wrong business here?
 
Is this time to migrate the App to be browser based? (Which I know nothing
about by the way)
 
If you guys have successfully got your Access Apps to work at any decent
sort of speed
over dial up can you let me know how??
 
Many thanks
 
Darren
 


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Nov  4 20:36:31 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 12:36:31 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Speed up access over a network
In-Reply-To: <200411050155.iA51tmXH015988@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <418B73CF.28101.19A80AB3@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 5 Nov 2004 at 12:55, Darren DICK wrote:

> Hello all
> I realise the q is very broad and has a million possible suggestions
> That's what I'm after
>  
> I have a client who I am developing an app for. So far they are very
> pleased.
> But just the other day....They now want to be able to use the app 
> after hours at home on their laptops. (And they are prepared to pay for this
> major re-direction)
>  
> So this means connecting (in some cases) to the back end using dial up
> <Sheesh>
>  
> Am I in the wrong business here?
>  
> Is this time to migrate the App to be browser based? (Which I know nothing
> about by the way)
>  
> If you guys have successfully got your Access Apps to work at any decent
> sort of speed
> over dial up can you let me know how??
>  

One option is to set up Terminal Server in the workplace and have them 
connect using a Terminal Services client.  

See http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/demos/mod09.htm for quite a good 
demo.



-- 
Stuart




From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Nov  4 20:54:42 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 18:54:42 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Can't delete or change missing references
References: <20041102201001.60145.qmail@web20424.mail.yahoo.com>
	<001a01c4c221$c14f3740$6401a8c0@user>
	<03e601c4c225$2eed7930$6401a8c0@default>
	<018701c4c2cd$e168c300$6401a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <418AEB72.8020702@shaw.ca>

Try some variation of this code to remove reference

It tests for broken reference lists by name and path to dll etc.
If broken removes reference
or use commented out code to delete by name

Sub RemoveBrokenReferences()
Dim refCurr As Reference
Dim intLoop As Integer

   For intLoop = References.Count To 1 Step -1
      Set refCurr = References(intLoop)
      Debug.Print References.Item(intLoop).Name & " - " & 
References.Item(intLoop).FullPath
     
      If refCurr.IsBroken = True Then
         References.Remove refCurr
      End If
    'example forcibly remove DAO reference by name if cannot err 3109
    'DAO - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\DAO\dao350.dll
   ' If References.Item(intLoop).Name = "DAO" Then
   '     References.Remove refCurr
   ' End If
   Next intLoop

End Sub

Kath Pelletti wrote:

>Michael - thanks for this by the way - no luck there either. Even when I delete the form and all code referring to Frontpage I am still unable to remove or change those missing references. 
>
>Kath
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Michael R Mattys 
>  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
>  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 3:17 PM
>  Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Online Access groups
>
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: "Kath Pelletti" <KP at sdsonline.net>
>  To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>  <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>  Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:52 PM
>  Subject: [AccessD] OT: Online Access groups
>
>
>  Lonnie - just a quick OT - I notice that your post also went to other Access
>  groups - do you find them as useful as AccessD?
>
>  Kath
>    ----- Original Message ----- 
>    From: Lonnie Johnson
>    To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu' ; AccessDevelopers ; ms_access ;
>  AccessD solving'
>
>
>  Now hold on there, Kath, let's see ... um, hm ... try this:
>
>  Application.SaveAsText acForm, "FormName", "DesiredPath"
>
>  I'm thinking that if there's a FrontPage control on this form that
>  you can just delete it from the text file, delete the form, remove the
>  bad ref, and then import that file right back in as a form.
>
>  ----
>
>  Michael R. Mattys
>  Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
>  http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>  -- 
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>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From KP at sdsonline.net  Thu Nov  4 21:24:23 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 14:24:23 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Can't delete or change missing references
References: <20041102201001.60145.qmail@web20424.mail.yahoo.com><001a01c4c221$c14f3740$6401a8c0@user><03e601c4c225$2eed7930$6401a8c0@default><018701c4c2cd$e168c300$6401a8c0@user>
	<418AEB72.8020702@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <000f01c4c2e6$f31f5500$6401a8c0@user>

Thanks Marty - I will try to use this......for the moment I can't even *type* or copy/paste into the vbe window - when I try to do so, I get error 'Error in loading dll'.

aaarrrgh....

I've tried a reset but it makes no difference. 
Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: MartyConnelly 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 1:54 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Can't delete or change missing references


  Try some variation of this code to remove reference

  It tests for broken reference lists by name and path to dll etc.
  If broken removes reference
  or use commented out code to delete by name

  Sub RemoveBrokenReferences()
  Dim refCurr As Reference
  Dim intLoop As Integer

     For intLoop = References.Count To 1 Step -1
        Set refCurr = References(intLoop)
        Debug.Print References.Item(intLoop).Name & " - " & 
  References.Item(intLoop).FullPath
       
        If refCurr.IsBroken = True Then
           References.Remove refCurr
        End If
      'example forcibly remove DAO reference by name if cannot err 3109
      'DAO - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\DAO\dao350.dll
     ' If References.Item(intLoop).Name = "DAO" Then
     '     References.Remove refCurr
     ' End If
     Next intLoop

  End Sub

  Kath Pelletti wrote:

  >Michael - thanks for this by the way - no luck there either. Even when I delete the form and all code referring to Frontpage I am still unable to remove or change those missing references. 
  >
  >Kath
  >  ----- Original Message ----- 
  >  From: Michael R Mattys 
  >  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  >  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 3:17 PM
  >  Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Online Access groups
  >
  >
  >  ----- Original Message ----- 
  >  From: "Kath Pelletti" <KP at sdsonline.net>
  >  To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
  >  <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
  >  Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:52 PM
  >  Subject: [AccessD] OT: Online Access groups
  >
  >
  >  Lonnie - just a quick OT - I notice that your post also went to other Access
  >  groups - do you find them as useful as AccessD?
  >
  >  Kath
  >    ----- Original Message ----- 
  >    From: Lonnie Johnson
  >    To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu' ; AccessDevelopers ; ms_access ;
  >  AccessD solving'
  >
  >
  >  Now hold on there, Kath, let's see ... um, hm ... try this:
  >
  >  Application.SaveAsText acForm, "FormName", "DesiredPath"
  >
  >  I'm thinking that if there's a FrontPage control on this form that
  >  you can just delete it from the text file, delete the form, remove the
  >  bad ref, and then import that file right back in as a form.
  >
  >  ----
  >
  >  Michael R. Mattys
  >  Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
  >  http://www.mattysconsulting.com
  >
  >  -- 
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  >  AccessD mailing list
  >  AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
  >  http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
  >  Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
  >  
  >

  -- 
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  Canada



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From KP at sdsonline.net  Thu Nov  4 21:26:46 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 14:26:46 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?
References: <000601c4c2cc$4c4ae470$de1811d8@danwaters>
Message-ID: <002101c4c2e7$47558f40$6401a8c0@user>

For now I have got client back online - I was able to remote access the PC, remove the references to DAO and ADO, save, reopen the refs window, select the DAO and ADO again (in that order) and recompile. That seems to have the date() function back for them again. Strangely though, there are still a few errors with format().

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dan Waters 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 11:13 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


  Kath,

  A few years ago I noticed this problem on a few computers, and it was a
  sporadic problem.  To get around it I put the following in a standard
  module:

  Public Function CurrentDate() As Date

      CurrentDate = CDate(DatePart("m", Now()) & "/" & DatePart("d", Now()) _
  & "/" & DatePart("yyyy", Now()))

      Exit Function

  End Function

  Now whenever I need the current date I just write:  txtDate = CurrentDate

  No problems for several years now!

  Dan Waters
  ProMation Systems

  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 4:23 PM
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
  Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?

  Hoping someone can shed some light here....

  A client using Windows 2000 Pro and Access 2000 has been using an mdb
  written in Access 2000 for several years. But this week when I installed an
  upgrade (same platform), the Date() functions throw errors, as do the
  Format() functions.

  They have a critical error at the moment caused by Date() notworking which I
  need to fix today. I know I could modify these functions to use, eg. Now(),
  but is this a MDAC problem? Mine is MDAC 2.7 on Windows XP SP1. 

  If I asked my client to download MDAC 2.8 (which I see is the latest) - is
  this going to solve the problem?

  I do not understand how this upgrade could possible have afftected the use
  of these functions??

  Thanks

  Kath
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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Nov  4 21:30:06 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 14:30:06 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Speed up access over a network
In-Reply-To: <418B73CF.28101.19A80AB3@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <200411050330.iA53UHXH009824@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Outstanding
This allows me to continue in Access and VB

Where do I set all this stuff up (Actually How is a better question:-)) 

Calling all Terminal Server gurus

Many thanks Stuart

Darren




-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Friday, 5 November 2004 1:37 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Speed up access over a network

On 5 Nov 2004 at 12:55, Darren DICK wrote:

> Hello all
> I realise the q is very broad and has a million possible suggestions 
> That's what I'm after
>  
> I have a client who I am developing an app for. So far they are very 
> pleased.
> But just the other day....They now want to be able to use the app 
> after hours at home on their laptops. (And they are prepared to pay 
> for this major re-direction)
>  
> So this means connecting (in some cases) to the back end using dial up 
> <Sheesh>
>  
> Am I in the wrong business here?
>  
> Is this time to migrate the App to be browser based? (Which I know 
> nothing about by the way)
>  
> If you guys have successfully got your Access Apps to work at any 
> decent sort of speed over dial up can you let me know how??
>  

One option is to set up Terminal Server in the workplace and have them 
connect using a Terminal Services client.  

See http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/demos/mod09.htm for quite a good 
demo.



-- 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Nov  4 22:09:32 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 23:09:32 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2k on W2k vs A2k on WinXP
In-Reply-To: <003401c4c2dc$17f03b70$0500a8c0@masterserv>
Message-ID: <001a01c4c2ed$40e1bcf0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

I have seen this and it was a security issue, user rights to the directory.
Apparently Windows XP adds some stuff in this regard that Win2K didn't care
about.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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Subject: [AccessD] A2k on W2k vs A2k on WinXP


We install on one computer this week WinXP with Office XP dev. Ed On some
application we discover that if we open and run we can't modify anything
this only occur on WinXP same process on Win2k Access permit to us modify
and save without problem. We try to make some changes before run the
application and this is ok, and run Swichtboard only and run OK, but if we
execute a simple query opening and writing over this application (any table)
then we can't do changes.

Why? Why Win2k permit to do this and WinXP not??

Thanks for any ideas


Juan

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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Nov  4 22:30:51 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 15:30:51 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Make Some pages in a Tab Control Enabled and some not
Message-ID: <200411050431.iA54V1XH004318@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hello all
Under certain circumstances I want the user to go to a form "frmPreferences"
that has a Tab Control on it called  "tabMain"
 
How can I (from the error trapping of another form)  spark up the form that
has the tabControl on
it (That bit I can do) and then make certain tabs enabled or visible on that
tab control?
 
Many thanks in advance
 
Darren
 


From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Nov  4 22:51:41 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 15:51:41 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Make Some pages in a Tab Control Enabled and some
	not(Solved)
Message-ID: <200411050451.iA54pqXH022864@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Never mind 
I figured out one way to do it
 
    If Err.Number = 76 Then
    MsgBox "message about invalid path get 'em to reset paths then fire up
the preferences form", vbCritical, "Unable to copy Offline Data File"
        
        DoCmd.OpenForm "frmPreferences"
        Forms!frmPreferences.TabBlank.SetFocus
        
        With Forms!frmPreferences
            For Each ctl In Forms!frmPreferences.Controls
                If ctl.Tag = 1 Then
                    ctl.Enabled = False
                End If
            Next
        End With
        
        Forms!frmPreferences.pgOffline.SetFocus
    Else
        MsgBox Err.Number & "  " & Err.Description, vbCritical, "Error in
fExit module"
    End If



From pcs at azizaz.com  Fri Nov  5 01:21:48 2004
From: pcs at azizaz.com (Borge Steen Hansen)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 17:21:48 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:BackEnd Upgrader
References: <200411050451.iA54pqXH022864@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <026101c4c308$1fdeb420$fa10a8c0@Albatross>

I've downloaded the BEUp.mdb from http://www.databaseadvisors.com
A few questions:
Is 16 June 2002 the latest revision?
Has any work been done on the BEup to accommodate more than one backend?
Who best to contact with any specific questions or suggestions?

Regards
Borge Hansen


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From pedro at plex.nl  Fri Nov  5 10:26:22 2004
From: pedro at plex.nl (pedro at plex.nl)
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 10:26:22 (MET)
Subject: [AccessD] how to do this?
Message-ID: <200411050926.iA59QM8s014181@mailhostC.plex.net>

Hello Group,

What is the best way to do the following routine?

I have a form with a field: [ArticleNumber]. I am scanning a barcode and the Article Number is placed in the field. When the Article number is placed this number must be processed as Follows; (in the table behind the form is also a field: [Quantity]) the value of [Quantity] must be decreased with 1. When the amount of [Quantity] reaches a certain minimum a message box must appear.

How can this been done.

Thanks

Pedro Janssen 




From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Nov  5 04:03:23 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 11:03:23 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Speed up access over a network
In-Reply-To: <200411050330.iA53UHXH009824@cooper.uws.edu.au>
References: <200411050330.iA53UHXH009824@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <968427978.20041105110323@cactus.dk>

Hi Darren

Unless you would love to handle this and don't have better things to
do, contract with a specialist.
There are a lot of small dos and don'ts regarding rights, login,
printers (remote print) which are not that simple.

However, when up and running it's a nice solution. Do check the
licensing scheme, though, as this is a mix of server license, user
licenses and terminal service user licenses.

One thing to insist on is to have a separate server for this. Don't
mix it with file/print etc. not to mention an Exchange animal.

/gustav


> Outstanding
> This allows me to continue in Access and VB

> Where do I set all this stuff up (Actually How is a better question:-)) 

> Calling all Terminal Server gurus

> Many thanks Stuart

> Darren



From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Fri Nov  5 04:34:19 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 05:34:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:BackEnd Upgrader
In-Reply-To: <026101c4c308$1fdeb420$fa10a8c0@Albatross>
Message-ID: <418B10DB.28934.1BFDB1@localhost>

On 5 Nov 2004 at 17:21, Borge Steen Hansen wrote:

> I've downloaded the BEUp.mdb from http://www.databaseadvisors.com A
> few questions: Is 16 June 2002 the latest revision? Has any work been

Which version is that? Check the About form.

> done on the BEup to accommodate more than one backend? Who best to

None that I am aware of

> contact with any specific questions or suggestions?

You can ask here, since all the developers hang out here (Andy, 
Reuben and myself), but it may get missed or you can e-mail beu-
support at databaseadvisors.com and get
at the developers directly.

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From pcs at azizaz.com  Fri Nov  5 05:30:59 2004
From: pcs at azizaz.com (Borge Hansen)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 21:30:59 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:BackEnd Upgrader
References: <418B10DB.28934.1BFDB1@localhost>
Message-ID: <026d01c4c32a$ef52f2d0$fa10a8c0@Albatross>

The About Form says : Version 1.58

Latest One??

Regards
Borge Hansen


> On 5 Nov 2004 at 17:21, Borge Steen Hansen wrote:
>
> > I've downloaded the BEUp.mdb from http://www.databaseadvisors.com A
> > few questions: Is 16 June 2002 the latest revision?
>
> Which version is that? Check the About form.
>
> > Has any work beendone on the BEup to accommodate more than one backend?
>
> None that I am aware of
>
> > Who best to contact with any specific questions or suggestions?
>
> You can ask here, since all the developers hang out here (Andy,
> Reuben and myself), but it may get missed or you can e-mail beu-
> support at databaseadvisors.com and get
> at the developers directly.
>
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From Helmut.E.Kotsch at t-online.de  Fri Nov  5 06:29:50 2004
From: Helmut.E.Kotsch at t-online.de (Helmut Kotsch)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 13:29:50 +0100
Subject: AW: [AccessD] A2K: Speed up access over a network
In-Reply-To: <418B73CF.28101.19A80AB3@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <PBECKMGOGDJDCPCHBBCIAELGCMAA.helmut.e.kotsch@t-online.de>

Hi,
would using Terminal Server bring a significant speed increase compared to
using PcAnywhere or VNC?

Helmut

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Gesendet: Freitag, 5. November 2004 03:37
An: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Betreff: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Speed up access over a network


On 5 Nov 2004 at 12:55, Darren DICK wrote:

> Hello all
> I realise the q is very broad and has a million possible suggestions
> That's what I'm after
>
> I have a client who I am developing an app for. So far they are very
> pleased.
> But just the other day....They now want to be able to use the app
> after hours at home on their laptops. (And they are prepared to pay for
this
> major re-direction)
>
> So this means connecting (in some cases) to the back end using dial up
> <Sheesh>
>
> Am I in the wrong business here?
>
> Is this time to migrate the App to be browser based? (Which I know nothing
> about by the way)
>
> If you guys have successfully got your Access Apps to work at any decent
> sort of speed
> over dial up can you let me know how??
>

One option is to set up Terminal Server in the workplace and have them
connect using a Terminal Services client.

See http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/demos/mod09.htm for quite a good
demo.



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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Fri Nov  5 07:12:09 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 14:12:09 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Speed up access over a network
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B54EC@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

ABSOLUTELY
No doubt about that...

And VNC or PCA is not an option when using multiple users and for afety
reasons (unless a seperate pc is used) 

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Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 1:30 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: AW: [AccessD] A2K: Speed up access over a network

Hi,
would using Terminal Server bring a significant speed increase compared
to using PcAnywhere or VNC?

Helmut

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Stuart
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Gesendet: Freitag, 5. November 2004 03:37
An: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Betreff: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Speed up access over a network


On 5 Nov 2004 at 12:55, Darren DICK wrote:

> Hello all
> I realise the q is very broad and has a million possible suggestions 
> That's what I'm after
>
> I have a client who I am developing an app for. So far they are very 
> pleased.
> But just the other day....They now want to be able to use the app 
> after hours at home on their laptops. (And they are prepared to pay 
> for
this
> major re-direction)
>
> So this means connecting (in some cases) to the back end using dial up

> <Sheesh>
>
> Am I in the wrong business here?
>
> Is this time to migrate the App to be browser based? (Which I know 
> nothing about by the way)
>
> If you guys have successfully got your Access Apps to work at any 
> decent sort of speed over dial up can you let me know how??
>

One option is to set up Terminal Server in the workplace and have them
connect using a Terminal Services client.

See http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/demos/mod09.htm for quite a
good
demo.



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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Nov  5 07:34:45 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 14:34:45 +0100
Subject: AW: [AccessD] A2K: Speed up access over a network
In-Reply-To: <PBECKMGOGDJDCPCHBBCIAELGCMAA.helmut.e.kotsch@t-online.de>
References: <PBECKMGOGDJDCPCHBBCIAELGCMAA.helmut.e.kotsch@t-online.de>
Message-ID: <4621109323.20041105143445@cactus.dk>

Hi Helmut

> would using Terminal Server bring a significant speed increase compared to
> using PcAnywhere or VNC?

The speed of the app itself will be about the same - this is
determined by the hardware at the host end.

Response time, however, is much slower with VNC. I don't know about
PcAnywhere, but their competitor NetOp Remote Control is very fast and
offers remote printing as does the Terminal Server.

/gustav



From shait at mindspring.com  Fri Nov  5 07:36:15 2004
From: shait at mindspring.com (Stephen Hait)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 08:36:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Speed up access over a network
In-Reply-To: <200411050330.iA53UHXH009824@cooper.uws.edu.au>
References: <418B73CF.28101.19A80AB3@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <418B3B7F.22400.E7A815B@localhost>


> Where do I set all this stuff up (Actually How is a better
> question:-)) 
> 
> Calling all Terminal Server gurus

Another possibility, if users access the app via a locally installed 
FE "at work", might be to let them access the app through their 
_own_ desktops via VNC, gotomypc, or similar. 

Just a thought,
Stephen



From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Fri Nov  5 07:42:04 2004
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 08:42:04 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F8E@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Understood.
Is it bad for to store the actual data, when using text, if they all share
the same prefix?

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 6:05 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL

On 4 Nov 2004 at 14:27, Joe Rojas wrote:

> Arthur,
>
> I was not expecting the database to act intelligently. To be honest I was
> not expecting there to even be a solution to this although Gustav figured
it
> out!
>
> I have an Access database that I used to keep track of the computers at my
> company. The computer naming convention that I use is TNCO###. One of the
> fields in the table is used for storing the computer name. If I remove a
> computer from our network and physical remove it from the company, I would
> like to be able to reuse that computer name instead of just using the next
> sequential number. To me I do not see it as concatenating two column
values
> into one but I could be wrong. What do you think Arthur?
>

If you *always* use the same initial characters, you could just store the
numeric value in the table and display them formatted as "TNCO"000 

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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Fri Nov  5 08:01:28 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 09:01:28 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C744869F4@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Thanks Darren.  Is this db you're compacting in 2002/2003 format or 2000?  As I understand it a 2002/2003 format file would not compact down like that.

Jim DeMarco

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Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating


Hi Jim
I think the issue is still there - maybe lessened, but still there

If you have access to the app perhaps try this...
I get into the code area and compile it
I have an icon Called DECOMPILE in the SendTo folder of AllUsers that points
to

C:\ProgramFiles\Microsoft Office\OfficeXX\MSACCESS.exe /decompile

(Replace the path with your Access Path)

Then I right click the dB or the db's shortcut icon and click SendTo and
select DECOMPILE

Then I get into the dB and Compact and repair it.

I can get a 9 meg monster down to about 1.8 - 2 megs

Do it every time I deliver a fresh version or app

HTH

See ya

DD


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2004 7:44 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

What file format are you using?

Charlotte Foust


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From: Erwin Craps - IT Helps [mailto:Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 12:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating


I use A2K3 for a while now, I believe I never experienced a, out of the
ordinary, bloating in A2K3.

Erwin

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Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

List,

Has M$ addressed the database bloating issue in A2K3 I've read about on
the list?  We're in the process of converting our A97 apps to A2K3 and
I'm trying to decide between A2K format or A2K3.  Any suggestions?

TIA,

Jim DeMarco
Director Application Development
Hudson Health Plan
Tarrytown, NY


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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Fri Nov  5 08:23:37 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 15:23:37 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B54ED@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Please note that is is normal that a file is smaller after compacting.

Don't forget after compacting your code needs to compile and store, but
also queuries are compiled the first time they run. 

Erwin

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Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 3:01 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

Thanks Darren.  Is this db you're compacting in 2002/2003 format or
2000?  As I understand it a 2002/2003 format file would not compact down
like that.

Jim DeMarco

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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 5:23 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating


Hi Jim
I think the issue is still there - maybe lessened, but still there

If you have access to the app perhaps try this...
I get into the code area and compile it
I have an icon Called DECOMPILE in the SendTo folder of AllUsers that
points to

C:\ProgramFiles\Microsoft Office\OfficeXX\MSACCESS.exe /decompile

(Replace the path with your Access Path)

Then I right click the dB or the db's shortcut icon and click SendTo and
select DECOMPILE

Then I get into the dB and Compact and repair it.

I can get a 9 meg monster down to about 1.8 - 2 megs

Do it every time I deliver a fresh version or app

HTH

See ya

DD


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Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2004 7:44 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

What file format are you using?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Erwin Craps - IT Helps [mailto:Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 12:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating


I use A2K3 for a while now, I believe I never experienced a, out of the
ordinary, bloating in A2K3.

Erwin

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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:02 PM
To: AccessD (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

List,

Has M$ addressed the database bloating issue in A2K3 I've read about on
the list?  We're in the process of converting our A97 apps to A2K3 and
I'm trying to decide between A2K format or A2K3.  Any suggestions?

TIA,

Jim DeMarco
Director Application Development
Hudson Health Plan
Tarrytown, NY


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From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Fri Nov  5 08:31:05 2004
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 09:31:05 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:BackEnd Upgrader
In-Reply-To: <026d01c4c32a$ef52f2d0$fa10a8c0@Albatross>
Message-ID: <FKEBJOENDDBJHLINGOBHEEBOFOAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

Borge, I'm not sure about the latest version.  I know I am using 1.58

I beleive there is a new version.  Unfortunately it has some untested stuff
in it and therefore unreleased.

Hopefully Andy or Bryan will see this and know more.  I'll try to contact
them as well.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com

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> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 6:31 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K:BackEnd Upgrader
>
>
> The About Form says : Version 1.58
>
> Latest One??
>
> Regards
> Borge Hansen
>
>
> > On 5 Nov 2004 at 17:21, Borge Steen Hansen wrote:
> >
> > > I've downloaded the BEUp.mdb from http://www.databaseadvisors.com A
> > > few questions: Is 16 June 2002 the latest revision?
> >
> > Which version is that? Check the About form.
> >
> > > Has any work beendone on the BEup to accommodate more than
> one backend?
> >
> > None that I am aware of
> >
> > > Who best to contact with any specific questions or suggestions?
> >
> > You can ask here, since all the developers hang out here (Andy,
> > Reuben and myself), but it may get missed or you can e-mail beu-
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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Fri Nov  5 08:56:43 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 09:56:43 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C744869F8@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Understood Erwin. But I've been hearing that the new file format will either not compact down at all or very little unlike previous versions.

Jim D.

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IT Helps
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 9:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating


Please note that is is normal that a file is smaller after compacting.

Don't forget after compacting your code needs to compile and store, but
also queuries are compiled the first time they run. 

Erwin

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Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 3:01 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

Thanks Darren.  Is this db you're compacting in 2002/2003 format or
2000?  As I understand it a 2002/2003 format file would not compact down
like that.

Jim DeMarco

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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 5:23 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating


Hi Jim
I think the issue is still there - maybe lessened, but still there

If you have access to the app perhaps try this...
I get into the code area and compile it
I have an icon Called DECOMPILE in the SendTo folder of AllUsers that
points to

C:\ProgramFiles\Microsoft Office\OfficeXX\MSACCESS.exe /decompile

(Replace the path with your Access Path)

Then I right click the dB or the db's shortcut icon and click SendTo and
select DECOMPILE

Then I get into the dB and Compact and repair it.

I can get a 9 meg monster down to about 1.8 - 2 megs

Do it every time I deliver a fresh version or app

HTH

See ya

DD


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Foust
Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2004 7:44 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

What file format are you using?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Erwin Craps - IT Helps [mailto:Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 12:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating


I use A2K3 for a while now, I believe I never experienced a, out of the
ordinary, bloating in A2K3.

Erwin

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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:02 PM
To: AccessD (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

List,

Has M$ addressed the database bloating issue in A2K3 I've read about on
the list?  We're in the process of converting our A97 apps to A2K3 and
I'm trying to decide between A2K format or A2K3.  Any suggestions?

TIA,

Jim DeMarco
Director Application Development
Hudson Health Plan
Tarrytown, NY


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From mastercafe at ctv.es  Fri Nov  5 09:55:35 2004
From: mastercafe at ctv.es (MastercafeCTV)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 16:55:35 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2k on W2k vs A2k on WinXP
In-Reply-To: <001a01c4c2ed$40e1bcf0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <009201c4c34f$f611a240$0500a8c0@masterserv>

And how to solve?? It's really terrible close and open the same application
to check and make changes on the code

Juan

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: viernes, 05 de noviembre de 2004 05:10
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2k on W2k vs A2k on WinXP


I have seen this and it was a security issue, user rights to the directory.
Apparently Windows XP adds some stuff in this regard that Win2K didn't care
about.

John W. Colby
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Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 9:06 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] A2k on W2k vs A2k on WinXP


We install on one computer this week WinXP with Office XP dev. Ed On some
application we discover that if we open and run we can't modify anything
this only occur on WinXP same process on Win2k Access permit to us modify
and save without problem. We try to make some changes before run the
application and this is ok, and run Swichtboard only and run OK, but if we
execute a simple query opening and writing over this application (any table)
then we can't do changes.

Why? Why Win2k permit to do this and WinXP not??

Thanks for any ideas


Juan

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Nov  5 10:14:12 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 08:14:12 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B51@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Are you referencing an MDE at all?  We found that we had similar
problems with an app when the code library we were referencing was in
the application folder, since the user is allowed to determine the app
folder at installation.  Even though the reference appeared to be
resolved, it required unsetting it and then resetting it before things
got back to normal.  We solved the problem by putting the mde in the
runtime folder, which we install to a fixed location.  After that, we
stopped having that particular problem.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Kath Pelletti [mailto:KP at sdsonline.net] 
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:27 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


For now I have got client back online - I was able to remote access the
PC, remove the references to DAO and ADO, save, reopen the refs window,
select the DAO and ADO again (in that order) and recompile. That seems
to have the date() function back for them again. Strangely though, there
are still a few errors with format().

Kath
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  From: Dan Waters 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 11:13 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


  Kath,

  A few years ago I noticed this problem on a few computers, and it was
a
  sporadic problem.  To get around it I put the following in a standard
  module:

  Public Function CurrentDate() As Date

      CurrentDate = CDate(DatePart("m", Now()) & "/" & DatePart("d",
Now()) _
  & "/" & DatePart("yyyy", Now()))

      Exit Function

  End Function

  Now whenever I need the current date I just write:  txtDate =
CurrentDate

  No problems for several years now!

  Dan Waters
  ProMation Systems

  -----Original Message-----
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Pelletti
  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 4:23 PM
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
  Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?

  Hoping someone can shed some light here....

  A client using Windows 2000 Pro and Access 2000 has been using an mdb
  written in Access 2000 for several years. But this week when I
installed an
  upgrade (same platform), the Date() functions throw errors, as do the
  Format() functions.

  They have a critical error at the moment caused by Date() notworking
which I
  need to fix today. I know I could modify these functions to use, eg.
Now(),
  but is this a MDAC problem? Mine is MDAC 2.7 on Windows XP SP1. 

  If I asked my client to download MDAC 2.8 (which I see is the latest)
- is
  this going to solve the problem?

  I do not understand how this upgrade could possible have afftected the
use
  of these functions??

  Thanks

  Kath
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From JColby at dispec.com  Fri Nov  5 10:16:21 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 11:16:21 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] A2k on W2k vs A2k on WinXP
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF953@DISABILITYINS01>

In the cases I had, it had to do with the users not having WINDOWS rights to
the directory where the stuff was stored on the server.  IIRC the answer was
to set up user accounts using the same user names / passwords on the server
so that they had the rights to access the dir.  I am not a notwork guy so
there may be other ways to deal with this.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: MastercafeCTV [mailto:mastercafe at ctv.es]
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 10:56 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2k on W2k vs A2k on WinXP


And how to solve?? It's really terrible close and open the same application
to check and make changes on the code

Juan

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: viernes, 05 de noviembre de 2004 05:10
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2k on W2k vs A2k on WinXP


I have seen this and it was a security issue, user rights to the directory.
Apparently Windows XP adds some stuff in this regard that Win2K didn't care
about.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 9:06 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] A2k on W2k vs A2k on WinXP


We install on one computer this week WinXP with Office XP dev. Ed On some
application we discover that if we open and run we can't modify anything
this only occur on WinXP same process on Win2k Access permit to us modify
and save without problem. We try to make some changes before run the
application and this is ok, and run Swichtboard only and run OK, but if we
execute a simple query opening and writing over this application (any table)
then we can't do changes.

Why? Why Win2k permit to do this and WinXP not??

Thanks for any ideas


Juan

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Nov  5 10:48:27 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 08:48:27 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] how to do this?
References: <200411050926.iA59QM8s014181@mailhostC.plex.net>
Message-ID: <418BAEDB.7090507@shaw.ca>

Well you can either store the Quantity on Hand or Calculate it
Here is an article that describes the pros and cons, This will affect 
your overall design.
Inventory Control: Quantity on Hand
http://members.iinet.net.au/~allenbrowne/AppInventory.html


pedro at plex.nl wrote:

>Hello Group,
>
>What is the best way to do the following routine?
>
>I have a form with a field: [ArticleNumber]. I am scanning a barcode and the Article Number is placed in the field. When the Article number is placed this number must be processed as Follows; (in the table behind the form is also a field: [Quantity]) the value of [Quantity] must be decreased with 1. When the amount of [Quantity] reaches a certain minimum a message box must appear.
>
>How can this been done.
>
>Thanks
>
>Pedro Janssen 
>
>
>  
>

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From serbach at new.rr.com  Fri Nov  5 13:21:48 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 13:21:48 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] A2K/AXP Repllcation problem
Message-ID: <20041105132148.1553325418.serbach@new.rr.com>

Dear Group,

I have one application that uses Replication, for better or for worse. At the moment I'm converting it into a web-based app useing .NET technologies. Wish me luck.

But for now my client is still using replication. There are a few laptops that are taken all over the state and brought back to the home office for synchronizing. Today this error occured when the synchronization progress bar had gotten about half-way.:

"Synchronization between replica 'C:\Apps...mdb' and replica '\\Dawn-mpc\...mdb' failed.
The search key was not found in any record." (I removed the full UNC path to the database names. The database names are correct.)

The help for this error says: "Error 3079 occurs when an ISAM SEEK is being executed and there are no matching values in the index."

I have no clue as to which key or index in which table. I was told that synchronization took place last week flawlessly.

Might the repair and compact option be called for here? What do you think?

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI




From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Fri Nov  5 15:14:42 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 16:14:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:BackEnd Upgrader
In-Reply-To: <FKEBJOENDDBJHLINGOBHEEBOFOAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>
References: <026d01c4c32a$ef52f2d0$fa10a8c0@Albatross>
Message-ID: <418BA6F2.2116.C0F2A8@localhost>

On 5 Nov 2004 at 9:31, Reuben Cummings wrote:

> Borge, I'm not sure about the latest version.  I know I am using 1.58
> 
> I beleive there is a new version.  Unfortunately it has some untested
> stuff in it and therefore unreleased.
> 
> Hopefully Andy or Bryan will see this and know more.  I'll try to
> contact them as well.

Yep. 1.58 is the latest released version.

There is a V1.59 in beta stages. I forget exactly what was 
changed/added between 1.58 and 1.59. I think it was the ability to 
handle a BE that is password protected, but I'm not sure.

There is also a V2.01 in Alpha which allows it to work with a secured 
back end.

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Nov  5 15:44:11 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 07:44:11 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
In-Reply-To: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F8E@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <418C80CA.982.1DC2BEAE@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 5 Nov 2004 at 8:42, Joe Rojas wrote:

> Understood.
> Is it bad for to store the actual data, when using text, if they all share
> the same prefix?
> 

There are pros and cons - you need to weigh them up and make a decision 
based on how you are going to be entering/using the data.

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Nov  5 23:36:00 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 21:36:00 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Speed up access over a network
In-Reply-To: <200411050155.iA51tmXH015988@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIAENKCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Darren:

Why not have a complete copy of the current DB on their laptop or remote
computer and just sync the DBs. The process is usually very fast, even on a
56K link and then the tables can be re-synced back into the office master
when updating is completed.

HTH
Jim

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Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 5:56 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Speed up access over a network


Hello all
I realise the q is very broad and has a million possible suggestions
That's what I'm after

I have a client who I am developing an app for. So far they are very
pleased.
But just the other day....They now want to be able to use the app
after hours at home on their laptops. (And they are prepared to pay for this
major re-direction)

So this means connecting (in some cases) to the back end using dial up
<Sheesh>

Am I in the wrong business here?

Is this time to migrate the App to be browser based? (Which I know nothing
about by the way)

If you guys have successfully got your Access Apps to work at any decent
sort of speed
over dial up can you let me know how??

Many thanks

Darren

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Nov  6 22:08:54 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 23:08:54 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
In-Reply-To: <200411050451.iA54pqXH022864@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <002f01c4c47f$7f204b10$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is there an
equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of Office)?  Do these
other platforms have references like we do in Access?  If so, can you
reference an MDA/E to use code in it?

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Nov  6 22:13:16 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 23:13:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Forms in Word / Excel
In-Reply-To: <200411050451.iA54pqXH022864@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <003001c4c480$1f6f43a0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

I understand that you can use forms in Word, Excel and other Office apps.
How capable are they?  Do they have the same "code behind form" class for
writing code in?  Do the form controls have events in the same manner as
Access?  Are Withevents available?  Are classes available, and if so, where
are they stored?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sun Nov  7 00:14:47 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 22:14:47 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Forms in Word / Excel
In-Reply-To: <003001c4c480$1f6f43a0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <200411070614.iA76EfL18940@databaseadvisors.com>

John,

Some Excel form info from John Walkenbachs page:

http://j-walk.com/ss/excel/tips/userformtips.htm

Joe Hecht
jmhla at earthlink.net
28g
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Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 8:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Forms in Word / Excel

I understand that you can use forms in Word, Excel and other Office apps.
How capable are they?  Do they have the same "code behind form" class for
writing code in?  Do the form controls have events in the same manner as
Access?  Are Withevents available?  Are classes available, and if so, where
are they stored?

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From serbach at new.rr.com  Sun Nov  7 04:53:10 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 04:53:10 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] A2K/AXP Repllcation problem
In-Reply-To: <20041105132148.1553325418.serbach@new.rr.com>
References: <20041105132148.1553325418.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <20041107045310.1540446425.serbach@new.rr.com>

Well, I found something over on Experts Exchange that may relate to this problem. It's a Microsoft KB article, Q301474. We'll see.

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI


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> From: "Steven W. Erbach" <serbach at new.rr.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Date: Fri, Nov-5-2004 1:41 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] A2K/AXP Repllcation problem
> 
> Dear Group,
> 
> I have one application that uses Replication, for better or for worse. 
> At the moment I'm converting it into a web-based app useing .NET 
> technologies. Wish me luck.
> 
> But for now my client is still using replication. There are a few 
> laptops that are taken all over the state and brought back to the home 
> office for synchronizing. Today this error occured when the synchronization 
> progress bar had gotten about half-way.:




From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sun Nov  7 07:40:33 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 07:40:33 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Remote Queries
Message-ID: <000601c4c4cf$5b020570$de1811d8@danwaters>

Has anyone had experience with what is called a Remote Query?

 

This is where you write the complete path to a table in the Select statement
for a recordset or a form or report recordsource.

 

An example:

 

"SELECT * FROM tblProcessMain" _

            " IN 'C:\Databases\Process.mdb'" _

            " WHERE ProcessStage <> 'Closed'"

 

Using a remote query means that a Front End doesn't need to link to a Back
End.  It also allows a Front End to be distributed without table links and
queries - thus hiding the location of the Back End.

 

This is new to me!  What might be the pros/cons/problems with using Remote
Queries?

 

TIA,

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems



From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Sun Nov  7 08:40:16 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 09:40:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
In-Reply-To: <002f01c4c47f$7f204b10$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
References: <200411050451.iA54pqXH022864@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <418DED80.20562.1724CE@localhost>

On 6 Nov 2004 at 23:08, John W. Colby wrote:

> In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is there
> an equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of Office)?  Do

Word/Excel, Not that I've ever run across but then again I've never 
gone looking for that capability either.

> these other platforms have references like we do in Access?  If so,

Yes. References are a VBE thing.

> can you reference an MDA/E to use code in it?

Never tried, but can't see why it wouldn't work.

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From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Sun Nov  7 08:47:36 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 09:47:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Forms in Word / Excel
In-Reply-To: <003001c4c480$1f6f43a0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
References: <200411050451.iA54pqXH022864@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <418DEF38.30083.1DDC8C@localhost>

On 6 Nov 2004 at 23:13, John W. Colby wrote:

> I understand that you can use forms in Word, Excel and other Office
> apps. How capable are they?  Do they have the same "code behind form"

Becareful with the word Forms in Word. There are several things that 
are called forms in Word. There are "Fill-In-Forms" wich is just a 
Word doc with fields in the doc that you fill in.

Then there are UserForms, which is what I think you are asking about. 
They are similar to Access Forms, but more closely behave like VB 
Forms.

> class for writing code in?  Do the form controls have events in the

Yes, the Userforms, which are available in Excel too, have class 
modules.

> same manner as Access?  Are Withevents available?  Are classes

Yes., but the more closely resemble VB controls.
WithEvents are available from Office 97 Up, IIRC.

> available, and if so, where are they stored?

Yes, classes are available, but where they are stored depends.
Word Document that you add the class too have the class stored in the 
.doc file.
Word Templates that you add classes to have the class stored in the 
.dot file.
Word Docuemnts that you create from a template that has classes in 
the template have the class stored in the .dot.

Excel Workbooks that you add classes to have the classes stored in 
the .xls file

Excel Templates that you add classes to have the classes stored in 
the .xlt file

Excel Workbooks that you create from Excel Templates that have 
classes have the classes stored in the .xls file. IOW, all the code, 
userforms, etc from an Excel template gets copied into the new 
workbook you create. It can be a real PITA.

How's that for a start and to raise more questions :)

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sun Nov  7 13:02:38 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 11:02:38 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
References: <002f01c4c47f$7f204b10$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <418E714E.9030505@shaw.ca>

In Excel you can store functions and modules as Public in .xla  files. 
Old Excel pre 97 didn't store the code in xla it
looked like an mde file. Matter of fact you can call these .xla files 
from Access. I have called functions from the Excel Statistical and 
Financial Analysis Packs.

In Outlook 2000  and any code that you create in the Outlook VBA 
environment is stored in a file named VBAProject.otm.
Even though you can copy the VBAProject.otm file, that's not a good way 
to distribute Outlook macros company-wide. The recommended method is to 
create an Outlook or Word  COM add-in. Talk to Shamil he has been 
upgrading com addins to dotnet.
http://www.outlookcode.com/d/vb.htm
http://www.outlookcode.com/d/comaddins.htm

Word uses templates either user or workgroup (to be shared) in a 
specific folder
A template  contain macros or other customizations such as toolbars, it 
works better from some locations than others.
Again these com addin's can be used in place of macro's.
see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/index.htm

Just for future reference this method is also partially available under 
word and excel

Under the Tools/References menu in the VBE, you need to check the
Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 object library.
Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VBA\VBA6\VBE6EXT.OLB


The following code exports the contents of the Code Module to a
file called test.bas. This can be run from Word or Excel

Application.VBE.ActiveVBProject.VBComponents("Module1").Export("test.bas")
I think you can also import code this way but never tried it or got it 
to work or something.

John W. Colby wrote:

>In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is there an
>equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of Office)?  Do these
>other platforms have references like we do in Access?  If so, can you
>reference an MDA/E to use code in it?
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com 
>
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>
>
>  
>

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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Sun Nov  7 16:43:59 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 09:43:59 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating
In-Reply-To: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C744869F4@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>
Message-ID: <200411072244.iA7Mi6XH003688@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Jim
I work with Access 200 and 2003
I get good results with this method


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Saturday, 6 November 2004 1:01 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

Thanks Darren.  Is this db you're compacting in 2002/2003 format or 2000?
As I understand it a 2002/2003 format file would not compact down like that.

Jim DeMarco

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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 5:23 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating


Hi Jim
I think the issue is still there - maybe lessened, but still there

If you have access to the app perhaps try this...
I get into the code area and compile it
I have an icon Called DECOMPILE in the SendTo folder of AllUsers that points
to

C:\ProgramFiles\Microsoft Office\OfficeXX\MSACCESS.exe /decompile

(Replace the path with your Access Path)

Then I right click the dB or the db's shortcut icon and click SendTo and
select DECOMPILE

Then I get into the dB and Compact and repair it.

I can get a 9 meg monster down to about 1.8 - 2 megs

Do it every time I deliver a fresh version or app

HTH

See ya

DD


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2004 7:44 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

What file format are you using?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Erwin Craps - IT Helps [mailto:Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 12:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating


I use A2K3 for a while now, I believe I never experienced a, out of the
ordinary, bloating in A2K3.

Erwin

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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:02 PM
To: AccessD (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

List,

Has M$ addressed the database bloating issue in A2K3 I've read about on the
list?  We're in the process of converting our A97 apps to A2K3 and I'm
trying to decide between A2K format or A2K3.  Any suggestions?

TIA,

Jim DeMarco
Director Application Development
Hudson Health Plan
Tarrytown, NY


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From KP at sdsonline.net  Sun Nov  7 17:49:48 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 10:49:48 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B51@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <006901c4c524$782fce70$6401a8c0@user>

Charlotte - no - no ref to mde - thanks anyway

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Charlotte Foust 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 3:14 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


  Are you referencing an MDE at all?  We found that we had similar
  problems with an app when the code library we were referencing was in
  the application folder, since the user is allowed to determine the app
  folder at installation.  Even though the reference appeared to be
  resolved, it required unsetting it and then resetting it before things
  got back to normal.  We solved the problem by putting the mde in the
  runtime folder, which we install to a fixed location.  After that, we
  stopped having that particular problem.

  Charlotte Foust


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Kath Pelletti [mailto:KP at sdsonline.net] 
  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:27 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


  For now I have got client back online - I was able to remote access the
  PC, remove the references to DAO and ADO, save, reopen the refs window,
  select the DAO and ADO again (in that order) and recompile. That seems
  to have the date() function back for them again. Strangely though, there
  are still a few errors with format().

  Kath
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Dan Waters 
    To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
    Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 11:13 AM
    Subject: RE: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


    Kath,

    A few years ago I noticed this problem on a few computers, and it was
  a
    sporadic problem.  To get around it I put the following in a standard
    module:

    Public Function CurrentDate() As Date

        CurrentDate = CDate(DatePart("m", Now()) & "/" & DatePart("d",
  Now()) _
    & "/" & DatePart("yyyy", Now()))

        Exit Function

    End Function

    Now whenever I need the current date I just write:  txtDate =
  CurrentDate

    No problems for several years now!

    Dan Waters
    ProMation Systems

    -----Original Message-----
    From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
    [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath
  Pelletti
    Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 4:23 PM
    To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
    Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?

    Hoping someone can shed some light here....

    A client using Windows 2000 Pro and Access 2000 has been using an mdb
    written in Access 2000 for several years. But this week when I
  installed an
    upgrade (same platform), the Date() functions throw errors, as do the
    Format() functions.

    They have a critical error at the moment caused by Date() notworking
  which I
    need to fix today. I know I could modify these functions to use, eg.
  Now(),
    but is this a MDAC problem? Mine is MDAC 2.7 on Windows XP SP1. 

    If I asked my client to download MDAC 2.8 (which I see is the latest)
  - is
    this going to solve the problem?

    I do not understand how this upgrade could possible have afftected the
  use
    of these functions??

    Thanks

    Kath
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Nov  7 18:37:56 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 16:37:56 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?
In-Reply-To: <006901c4c524$782fce70$6401a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLICEOECHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Kath:

This problem you are having sounds like a very old problem, about four to
five years ago, that I had on a site that had just been upgraded to A2K.
Neither the Date(), Format() etc., commands would work. The solution turned
out to be a simple update from MS. The problem only happened with upgrades
and not with full installs.

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 3:50 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


Charlotte - no - no ref to mde - thanks anyway

Kath
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Charlotte Foust
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 3:14 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


  Are you referencing an MDE at all?  We found that we had similar
  problems with an app when the code library we were referencing was in
  the application folder, since the user is allowed to determine the app
  folder at installation.  Even though the reference appeared to be
  resolved, it required unsetting it and then resetting it before things
  got back to normal.  We solved the problem by putting the mde in the
  runtime folder, which we install to a fixed location.  After that, we
  stopped having that particular problem.

  Charlotte Foust


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Kath Pelletti [mailto:KP at sdsonline.net]
  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:27 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


  For now I have got client back online - I was able to remote access the
  PC, remove the references to DAO and ADO, save, reopen the refs window,
  select the DAO and ADO again (in that order) and recompile. That seems
  to have the date() function back for them again. Strangely though, there
  are still a few errors with format().

  Kath
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Dan Waters
    To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
    Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 11:13 AM
    Subject: RE: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


    Kath,

    A few years ago I noticed this problem on a few computers, and it was
  a
    sporadic problem.  To get around it I put the following in a standard
    module:

    Public Function CurrentDate() As Date

        CurrentDate = CDate(DatePart("m", Now()) & "/" & DatePart("d",
  Now()) _
    & "/" & DatePart("yyyy", Now()))

        Exit Function

    End Function

    Now whenever I need the current date I just write:  txtDate =
  CurrentDate

    No problems for several years now!

    Dan Waters
    ProMation Systems

    -----Original Message-----
    From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
    [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath
  Pelletti
    Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 4:23 PM
    To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
    Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?

    Hoping someone can shed some light here....

    A client using Windows 2000 Pro and Access 2000 has been using an mdb
    written in Access 2000 for several years. But this week when I
  installed an
    upgrade (same platform), the Date() functions throw errors, as do the
    Format() functions.

    They have a critical error at the moment caused by Date() notworking
  which I
    need to fix today. I know I could modify these functions to use, eg.
  Now(),
    but is this a MDAC problem? Mine is MDAC 2.7 on Windows XP SP1.

    If I asked my client to download MDAC 2.8 (which I see is the latest)
  - is
    this going to solve the problem?

    I do not understand how this upgrade could possible have afftected the
  use
    of these functions??

    Thanks

    Kath
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Sun Nov  7 19:14:17 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 12:14:17 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?
References: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLICEOECHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <001e01c4c530$45561cf0$6401a8c0@user>

I remember this happening back then too - with Win98 users - but I have never seen it with Win 2K pro or WinXP Pro. Back then I remember it was the MDAC version - but now - who knows. 

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 11:37 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


  Hi Kath:

  This problem you are having sounds like a very old problem, about four to
  five years ago, that I had on a site that had just been upgraded to A2K.
  Neither the Date(), Format() etc., commands would work. The solution turned
  out to be a simple update from MS. The problem only happened with upgrades
  and not with full installs.

  HTH
  Jim

  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 3:50 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


  Charlotte - no - no ref to mde - thanks anyway

  Kath
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Charlotte Foust
    To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
    Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 3:14 AM
    Subject: RE: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


    Are you referencing an MDE at all?  We found that we had similar
    problems with an app when the code library we were referencing was in
    the application folder, since the user is allowed to determine the app
    folder at installation.  Even though the reference appeared to be
    resolved, it required unsetting it and then resetting it before things
    got back to normal.  We solved the problem by putting the mde in the
    runtime folder, which we install to a fixed location.  After that, we
    stopped having that particular problem.

    Charlotte Foust


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Kath Pelletti [mailto:KP at sdsonline.net]
    Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:27 PM
    To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
    Subject: Re: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


    For now I have got client back online - I was able to remote access the
    PC, remove the references to DAO and ADO, save, reopen the refs window,
    select the DAO and ADO again (in that order) and recompile. That seems
    to have the date() function back for them again. Strangely though, there
    are still a few errors with format().

    Kath
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Dan Waters
      To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
      Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 11:13 AM
      Subject: RE: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


      Kath,

      A few years ago I noticed this problem on a few computers, and it was
    a
      sporadic problem.  To get around it I put the following in a standard
      module:

      Public Function CurrentDate() As Date

          CurrentDate = CDate(DatePart("m", Now()) & "/" & DatePart("d",
    Now()) _
      & "/" & DatePart("yyyy", Now()))

          Exit Function

      End Function

      Now whenever I need the current date I just write:  txtDate =
    CurrentDate

      No problems for several years now!

      Dan Waters
      ProMation Systems

      -----Original Message-----
      From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
      [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath
    Pelletti
      Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 4:23 PM
      To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
      Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?

      Hoping someone can shed some light here....

      A client using Windows 2000 Pro and Access 2000 has been using an mdb
      written in Access 2000 for several years. But this week when I
    installed an
      upgrade (same platform), the Date() functions throw errors, as do the
      Format() functions.

      They have a critical error at the moment caused by Date() notworking
    which I
      need to fix today. I know I could modify these functions to use, eg.
    Now(),
      but is this a MDAC problem? Mine is MDAC 2.7 on Windows XP SP1.

      If I asked my client to download MDAC 2.8 (which I see is the latest)
    - is
      this going to solve the problem?

      I do not understand how this upgrade could possible have afftected the
    use
      of these functions??

      Thanks

      Kath
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Nov  7 19:36:55 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 20:36:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
In-Reply-To: <418E714E.9030505@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <000001c4c533$71eabe30$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Holy cow, is that a mish mash or what?  The point of my questions was to try
to find a common ground where code could be stored and run from all of the
various office applications.  Not to be it would seem.  It does seem bizarre
that if I had some function that should be able to run in any of the apps I
have to save the same thing in 5 different places so that Access, Excel,
Word, Powerpoint and Outlook could use it.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 2:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


In Excel you can store functions and modules as Public in .xla  files. 
Old Excel pre 97 didn't store the code in xla it
looked like an mde file. Matter of fact you can call these .xla files 
from Access. I have called functions from the Excel Statistical and 
Financial Analysis Packs.

In Outlook 2000  and any code that you create in the Outlook VBA 
environment is stored in a file named VBAProject.otm.
Even though you can copy the VBAProject.otm file, that's not a good way 
to distribute Outlook macros company-wide. The recommended method is to 
create an Outlook or Word  COM add-in. Talk to Shamil he has been 
upgrading com addins to dotnet. http://www.outlookcode.com/d/vb.htm
http://www.outlookcode.com/d/comaddins.htm

Word uses templates either user or workgroup (to be shared) in a 
specific folder
A template  contain macros or other customizations such as toolbars, it 
works better from some locations than others.
Again these com addin's can be used in place of macro's.
see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/index.htm

Just for future reference this method is also partially available under 
word and excel

Under the Tools/References menu in the VBE, you need to check the Microsoft
Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 object library. Microsoft
Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 C:\Program Files\Common
Files\Microsoft Shared\VBA\VBA6\VBE6EXT.OLB


The following code exports the contents of the Code Module to a file called
test.bas. This can be run from Word or Excel

Application.VBE.ActiveVBProject.VBComponents("Module1").Export("test.bas")
I think you can also import code this way but never tried it or got it 
to work or something.

John W. Colby wrote:

>In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is there 
>an equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of Office)?  Do 
>these other platforms have references like we do in Access?  If so, can 
>you reference an MDA/E to use code in it?
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>
>  
>

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Nov  7 19:37:56 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 20:37:56 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
In-Reply-To: <418DED80.20562.1724CE@localhost>
Message-ID: <000101c4c533$959af160$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

I tried from Word and it definitely doesn't work.  Haven't tried yet from
Excel etc but I am not optimistic.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 9:40 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


On 6 Nov 2004 at 23:08, John W. Colby wrote:

> In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is there 
> an equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of Office)?  Do

Word/Excel, Not that I've ever run across but then again I've never 
gone looking for that capability either.

> these other platforms have references like we do in Access?  If so,

Yes. References are a VBE thing.

> can you reference an MDA/E to use code in it?

Never tried, but can't see why it wouldn't work.

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From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Sun Nov  7 20:26:30 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 21:26:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
In-Reply-To: <000101c4c533$959af160$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
References: <418DED80.20562.1724CE@localhost>
Message-ID: <418E9306.22911.29DB85D@localhost>

On 7 Nov 2004 at 20:37, John W. Colby wrote:

> I tried from Word and it definitely doesn't work.  Haven't tried yet
> from Excel etc but I am not optimistic.

Well, I just went looking and it looks like that you would need to 
create a VB DLL for a code library to share code across all the 
Office apps.

BTW, you can't reference an md[a|e] in Excel Excel templates and 
worksheets only. I just checked :(

-- 
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From michael.mattys at adelphia.net  Sun Nov  7 21:16:23 2004
From: michael.mattys at adelphia.net (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 22:16:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
References: <000001c4c533$71eabe30$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <00f501c4c541$54594860$6401a8c0@default>

John,

Are you talking about the designers?

I thought you could have a common standard or class module
within the dll, and just pass in the Application object as Object.
Then just Select Case to perform the appropriate action.
I'll look again, but I'm pretty sure that's it.

----

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Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 8:36 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


> Holy cow, is that a mish mash or what?  The point of my questions was to
try
> to find a common ground where code could be stored and run from all of the
> various office applications.  Not to be it would seem.  It does seem
bizarre
> that if I had some function that should be able to run in any of the apps
I
> have to save the same thing in 5 different places so that Access, Excel,
> Word, Powerpoint and Outlook could use it.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 2:03 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
> In Excel you can store functions and modules as Public in .xla  files.
> Old Excel pre 97 didn't store the code in xla it
> looked like an mde file. Matter of fact you can call these .xla files
> from Access. I have called functions from the Excel Statistical and
> Financial Analysis Packs.
>
> In Outlook 2000  and any code that you create in the Outlook VBA
> environment is stored in a file named VBAProject.otm.
> Even though you can copy the VBAProject.otm file, that's not a good way
> to distribute Outlook macros company-wide. The recommended method is to
> create an Outlook or Word  COM add-in. Talk to Shamil he has been
> upgrading com addins to dotnet. http://www.outlookcode.com/d/vb.htm
> http://www.outlookcode.com/d/comaddins.htm
>
> Word uses templates either user or workgroup (to be shared) in a
> specific folder
> A template  contain macros or other customizations such as toolbars, it
> works better from some locations than others.
> Again these com addin's can be used in place of macro's.
> see
> http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/index.htm
>
> Just for future reference this method is also partially available under
> word and excel
>
> Under the Tools/References menu in the VBE, you need to check the
Microsoft
> Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 object library. Microsoft
> Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 C:\Program Files\Common
> Files\Microsoft Shared\VBA\VBA6\VBE6EXT.OLB
>
>
> The following code exports the contents of the Code Module to a file
called
> test.bas. This can be run from Word or Excel
>
> Application.VBE.ActiveVBProject.VBComponents("Module1").Export("test.bas")
> I think you can also import code this way but never tried it or got it
> to work or something.
>
> John W. Colby wrote:
>
> >In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is there
> >an equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of Office)?  Do
> >these other platforms have references like we do in Access?  If so, can
> >you reference an MDA/E to use code in it?
> >
> >John W. Colby
> >www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> >Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> >http://folding.stanford.edu/
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> -- 
> Marty Connelly
> Victoria, B.C.
> Canada
>
>
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Nov  7 21:46:59 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 22:46:59 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
In-Reply-To: <00f501c4c541$54594860$6401a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <000301c4c545$9e1d9290$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

No, I'm talking about an application framework where the code is available
to any Office application.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:16 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


John,

Are you talking about the designers?

I thought you could have a common standard or class module within the dll,
and just pass in the Application object as Object. Then just Select Case to
perform the appropriate action. I'll look again, but I'm pretty sure that's
it.

----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 8:36 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


> Holy cow, is that a mish mash or what?  The point of my questions was 
> to
try
> to find a common ground where code could be stored and run from all of 
> the various office applications.  Not to be it would seem.  It does 
> seem
bizarre
> that if I had some function that should be able to run in any of the 
> apps
I
> have to save the same thing in 5 different places so that Access, 
> Excel, Word, Powerpoint and Outlook could use it.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> MartyConnelly
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 2:03 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
> In Excel you can store functions and modules as Public in .xla  files. 
> Old Excel pre 97 didn't store the code in xla it looked like an mde 
> file. Matter of fact you can call these .xla files from Access. I have 
> called functions from the Excel Statistical and Financial Analysis 
> Packs.
>
> In Outlook 2000  and any code that you create in the Outlook VBA 
> environment is stored in a file named VBAProject.otm. Even though you 
> can copy the VBAProject.otm file, that's not a good way to distribute 
> Outlook macros company-wide. The recommended method is to create an 
> Outlook or Word  COM add-in. Talk to Shamil he has been upgrading com 
> addins to dotnet. http://www.outlookcode.com/d/vb.htm
> http://www.outlookcode.com/d/comaddins.htm
>
> Word uses templates either user or workgroup (to be shared) in a 
> specific folder A template  contain macros or other customizations 
> such as toolbars, it works better from some locations than others.
> Again these com addin's can be used in place of macro's.
> see
> http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/index.htm
>
> Just for future reference this method is also partially available 
> under word and excel
>
> Under the Tools/References menu in the VBE, you need to check the
Microsoft
> Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 object library. 
> Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 C:\Program 
> Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VBA\VBA6\VBE6EXT.OLB
>
>
> The following code exports the contents of the Code Module to a file
called
> test.bas. This can be run from Word or Excel
>
> Application.VBE.ActiveVBProject.VBComponents("Module1").Export("test.b
> as")
> I think you can also import code this way but never tried it or got it
> to work or something.
>
> John W. Colby wrote:
>
> >In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is 
> >there an equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of 
> >Office)?  Do these other platforms have references like we do in 
> >Access?  If so, can you reference an MDA/E to use code in it?
> >
> >John W. Colby
> >www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> >Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> >http://folding.stanford.edu/
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Marty Connelly
> Victoria, B.C.
> Canada
>
>
>
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From michael.mattys at adelphia.net  Sun Nov  7 22:08:34 2004
From: michael.mattys at adelphia.net (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 23:08:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
References: <000301c4c545$9e1d9290$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <012101c4c548$a06160b0$6401a8c0@default>

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but ...

(From Q230225)
COM add-ins are a new feature in Microsoft Office 2000
and are supported by all Office programs, including Outlook.

Key benefits of COM add-ins include:

COM add-ins run in-process with the host program, so custom
code generally runs faster than code implemented in Visual Basic
for Applications.

The basic COM add-in architecture is consistent across all Office
programs, whereas in previous versions of Office, each program had
its own add-in architecture.

You can create one COM add-in to use with more than one Office program.

Example:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/238228

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:46 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


> No, I'm talking about an application framework where the code is available
> to any Office application.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:16 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
> John,
>
> Are you talking about the designers?
>
> I thought you could have a common standard or class module within the dll,
> and just pass in the Application object as Object. Then just Select Case
to
> perform the appropriate action. I'll look again, but I'm pretty sure
that's
> it.
>
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 8:36 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
> > Holy cow, is that a mish mash or what?  The point of my questions was
> > to
> try
> > to find a common ground where code could be stored and run from all of
> > the various office applications.  Not to be it would seem.  It does
> > seem
> bizarre
> > that if I had some function that should be able to run in any of the
> > apps
> I
> > have to save the same thing in 5 different places so that Access,
> > Excel, Word, Powerpoint and Outlook could use it.
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > http://folding.stanford.edu/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> > MartyConnelly
> > Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 2:03 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
> >
> >
> > In Excel you can store functions and modules as Public in .xla  files.
> > Old Excel pre 97 didn't store the code in xla it looked like an mde
> > file. Matter of fact you can call these .xla files from Access. I have
> > called functions from the Excel Statistical and Financial Analysis
> > Packs.
> >
> > In Outlook 2000  and any code that you create in the Outlook VBA
> > environment is stored in a file named VBAProject.otm. Even though you
> > can copy the VBAProject.otm file, that's not a good way to distribute
> > Outlook macros company-wide. The recommended method is to create an
> > Outlook or Word  COM add-in. Talk to Shamil he has been upgrading com
> > addins to dotnet. http://www.outlookcode.com/d/vb.htm
> > http://www.outlookcode.com/d/comaddins.htm
> >
> > Word uses templates either user or workgroup (to be shared) in a
> > specific folder A template  contain macros or other customizations
> > such as toolbars, it works better from some locations than others.
> > Again these com addin's can be used in place of macro's.
> > see
> > http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/index.htm
> >
> > Just for future reference this method is also partially available
> > under word and excel
> >
> > Under the Tools/References menu in the VBE, you need to check the
> Microsoft
> > Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 object library.
> > Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 C:\Program
> > Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VBA\VBA6\VBE6EXT.OLB
> >
> >
> > The following code exports the contents of the Code Module to a file
> called
> > test.bas. This can be run from Word or Excel
> >
> > Application.VBE.ActiveVBProject.VBComponents("Module1").Export("test.b
> > as")
> > I think you can also import code this way but never tried it or got it
> > to work or something.
> >
> > John W. Colby wrote:
> >
> > >In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is
> > >there an equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of
> > >Office)?  Do these other platforms have references like we do in
> > >Access?  If so, can you reference an MDA/E to use code in it?
> > >
> > >John W. Colby
> > >www.ColbyConsulting.com
> > >
> > >Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > >http://folding.stanford.edu/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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> > Victoria, B.C.
> > Canada
> >
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Nov  8 06:35:39 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 07:35:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
In-Reply-To: <012101c4c548$a06160b0$6401a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <000801c4c58f$74a397d0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

I am proposing a book to a publisher I just finished writing for, which will
be about reusable code for Microsoft Access specifically, modules, classes,
libraries and frameworks.  

I was hoping to find a way to make the code accessible to different
platforms should someone be more comfortable working in Word or Excel.
While a com object would certainly accomplish this, it involves tools (and
expertise) outside of the office suite.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 11:09 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but ...

(From Q230225)
COM add-ins are a new feature in Microsoft Office 2000
and are supported by all Office programs, including Outlook.

Key benefits of COM add-ins include:

COM add-ins run in-process with the host program, so custom code generally
runs faster than code implemented in Visual Basic for Applications.

The basic COM add-in architecture is consistent across all Office programs,
whereas in previous versions of Office, each program had its own add-in
architecture.

You can create one COM add-in to use with more than one Office program.

Example:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/238228

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:46 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


> No, I'm talking about an application framework where the code is 
> available to any Office application.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:16 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
> John,
>
> Are you talking about the designers?
>
> I thought you could have a common standard or class module within the 
> dll, and just pass in the Application object as Object. Then just 
> Select Case
to
> perform the appropriate action. I'll look again, but I'm pretty sure
that's
> it.
>
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 8:36 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
> > Holy cow, is that a mish mash or what?  The point of my questions 
> > was to
> try
> > to find a common ground where code could be stored and run from all 
> > of the various office applications.  Not to be it would seem.  It 
> > does seem
> bizarre
> > that if I had some function that should be able to run in any of the 
> > apps
> I
> > have to save the same thing in 5 different places so that Access, 
> > Excel, Word, Powerpoint and Outlook could use it.
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> > http://folding.stanford.edu/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> > MartyConnelly
> > Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 2:03 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
> >
> >
> > In Excel you can store functions and modules as Public in .xla  
> > files. Old Excel pre 97 didn't store the code in xla it looked like 
> > an mde file. Matter of fact you can call these .xla files from 
> > Access. I have called functions from the Excel Statistical and 
> > Financial Analysis Packs.
> >
> > In Outlook 2000  and any code that you create in the Outlook VBA 
> > environment is stored in a file named VBAProject.otm. Even though 
> > you can copy the VBAProject.otm file, that's not a good way to 
> > distribute Outlook macros company-wide. The recommended method is to 
> > create an Outlook or Word  COM add-in. Talk to Shamil he has been 
> > upgrading com addins to dotnet. http://www.outlookcode.com/d/vb.htm
> > http://www.outlookcode.com/d/comaddins.htm
> >
> > Word uses templates either user or workgroup (to be shared) in a 
> > specific folder A template  contain macros or other customizations 
> > such as toolbars, it works better from some locations than others. 
> > Again these com addin's can be used in place of macro's. see
> > http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/index.htm
> >
> > Just for future reference this method is also partially available 
> > under word and excel
> >
> > Under the Tools/References menu in the VBE, you need to check the
> Microsoft
> > Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 object library. 
> > Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 C:\Program 
> > Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VBA\VBA6\VBE6EXT.OLB
> >
> >
> > The following code exports the contents of the Code Module to a file
> called
> > test.bas. This can be run from Word or Excel
> >
> > Application.VBE.ActiveVBProject.VBComponents("Module1").Export("test
> > .b
> > as")
> > I think you can also import code this way but never tried it or got it
> > to work or something.
> >
> > John W. Colby wrote:
> >
> > >In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is 
> > >there an equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of 
> > >Office)?  Do these other platforms have references like we do in 
> > >Access?  If so, can you reference an MDA/E to use code in it?
> > >
> > >John W. Colby
> > >www.ColbyConsulting.com
> > >
> > >Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> > >http://folding.stanford.edu/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Marty Connelly
> > Victoria, B.C.
> > Canada
> >
> >
> >
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From Susan.Klos at fldoe.org  Mon Nov  8 09:38:45 2004
From: Susan.Klos at fldoe.org (Klos, Susan)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 10:38:45 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Missing months in a crosstab query
Message-ID: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE7393C@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.int>

I have the following crosstab query which I am using to bind to a report:

TRANSFORM Sum(tlnklodgingEvent.Guests) AS [Number]

SELECT IIf([weekend]=True,"Cabin occupancy/Weekend","Cabin
occupancy/Midweek") AS Type, "Cabin" AS Category

FROM tblEvent INNER JOIN tlnklodgingEvent ON tblEvent.InvoiceNo =
tlnklodgingEvent.EventID

WHERE (((tlnklodgingEvent.LodgingID)=5 Or (tlnklodgingEvent.LodgingID)=7 Or
(tlnklodgingEvent.LodgingID)=27 Or (tlnklodgingEvent.LodgingID)=30))

GROUP BY IIf([weekend]=True,"Cabin occupancy/Weekend","Cabin
occupancy/Midweek"), "Cabin"

PIVOT Month(tblEvent.Beginningdate);

 

I want to have the report show all months even though there may be no data
for a particular month.  In the above query, I get data for January through
June and September through December.  Nobody stayed in cabins during July
and August.  So in the report I want to show zeroes in those columns.  I
tried using text boxes and IIF statements to test for null but I knew that
wouldn't work because month numbers 7 and 8 aren't null they just don't
exist in the query.  I tried looking in help to see if there was an "if
exists" function to see if I could see if the field exists in the query.  I
couldn't find anything like that.  Should I be working at the query level
instead to have the query insert a zero if there are months missing?  If so
I will need help on that also.  Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

850-245-0708 

sc 205-0708

 



From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Mon Nov  8 09:45:13 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 09:45:13 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Remote Queries
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D06C@main2.marlow.com>

There are drawbacks.  I don't believe you can specificy a different .mdw or
username/password  with this type of statement.  Also, what if the Backend
is moved?  Instead of having to relink the tables, you'll have to change the
SQL in everything that uses this path.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 7:41 AM
To: Database Advisors
Subject: [AccessD] Remote Queries


Has anyone had experience with what is called a Remote Query?

 

This is where you write the complete path to a table in the Select statement
for a recordset or a form or report recordsource.

 

An example:

 

"SELECT * FROM tblProcessMain" _

            " IN 'C:\Databases\Process.mdb'" _

            " WHERE ProcessStage <> 'Closed'"

 

Using a remote query means that a Front End doesn't need to link to a Back
End.  It also allows a Front End to be distributed without table links and
queries - thus hiding the location of the Back End.

 

This is new to me!  What might be the pros/cons/problems with using Remote
Queries?

 

TIA,

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems

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From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Mon Nov  8 09:50:00 2004
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 10:50:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Missing months in a crosstab query
References: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE7393C@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.int>
Message-ID: <418F95A8.4040102@torchlake.com>

Hi Susan,
If you create an OUTER JOIN rather than an INNER JOIN to show all 
records in the table that holds the months, I think you will solve your 
problem.  I can't tell you how many times I have had to rediscover the 
basic truth that INNER JOIN means I will see only those records with 
matching field entries in both tables.
HTH,
Tina

Klos, Susan wrote:

>I have the following crosstab query which I am using to bind to a report:
>
>TRANSFORM Sum(tlnklodgingEvent.Guests) AS [Number]
>
>SELECT IIf([weekend]=True,"Cabin occupancy/Weekend","Cabin
>occupancy/Midweek") AS Type, "Cabin" AS Category
>
>FROM tblEvent INNER JOIN tlnklodgingEvent ON tblEvent.InvoiceNo =
>tlnklodgingEvent.EventID
>
>WHERE (((tlnklodgingEvent.LodgingID)=5 Or (tlnklodgingEvent.LodgingID)=7 Or
>(tlnklodgingEvent.LodgingID)=27 Or (tlnklodgingEvent.LodgingID)=30))
>
>GROUP BY IIf([weekend]=True,"Cabin occupancy/Weekend","Cabin
>occupancy/Midweek"), "Cabin"
>
>PIVOT Month(tblEvent.Beginningdate);
>
> 
>
>I want to have the report show all months even though there may be no data
>for a particular month.  In the above query, I get data for January through
>June and September through December.  Nobody stayed in cabins during July
>and August.  So in the report I want to show zeroes in those columns.  I
>tried using text boxes and IIF statements to test for null but I knew that
>wouldn't work because month numbers 7 and 8 aren't null they just don't
>exist in the query.  I tried looking in help to see if there was an "if
>exists" function to see if I could see if the field exists in the query.  I
>couldn't find anything like that.  Should I be working at the query level
>instead to have the query insert a zero if there are months missing?  If so
>I will need help on that also.  Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> 
>
>Susan Klos
>
>Senior Database Analyst
>
>Evaluation and Reporting
>
>Florida Department of Education
>
>850-245-0708 
>
>sc 205-0708
>
> 
>
>  
>




From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Nov  8 10:27:46 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 08:27:46 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B55@infoserver01.infostat.local>

But remember, Access doesn't use the same kind of forms that VB and the
other Office apps use.  If you want to share code, create a dll and
reference it in the various projects.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 5:37 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


Holy cow, is that a mish mash or what?  The point of my questions was to
try to find a common ground where code could be stored and run from all
of the various office applications.  Not to be it would seem.  It does
seem bizarre that if I had some function that should be able to run in
any of the apps I have to save the same thing in 5 different places so
that Access, Excel, Word, Powerpoint and Outlook could use it.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 2:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


In Excel you can store functions and modules as Public in .xla  files. 
Old Excel pre 97 didn't store the code in xla it
looked like an mde file. Matter of fact you can call these .xla files 
from Access. I have called functions from the Excel Statistical and 
Financial Analysis Packs.

In Outlook 2000  and any code that you create in the Outlook VBA 
environment is stored in a file named VBAProject.otm.
Even though you can copy the VBAProject.otm file, that's not a good way 
to distribute Outlook macros company-wide. The recommended method is to 
create an Outlook or Word  COM add-in. Talk to Shamil he has been 
upgrading com addins to dotnet. http://www.outlookcode.com/d/vb.htm
http://www.outlookcode.com/d/comaddins.htm

Word uses templates either user or workgroup (to be shared) in a 
specific folder
A template  contain macros or other customizations such as toolbars, it 
works better from some locations than others.
Again these com addin's can be used in place of macro's.
see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/index.htm

Just for future reference this method is also partially available under 
word and excel

Under the Tools/References menu in the VBE, you need to check the
Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 object
library. Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VBA\VBA6\VBE6EXT.OLB


The following code exports the contents of the Code Module to a file
called test.bas. This can be run from Word or Excel

Application.VBE.ActiveVBProject.VBComponents("Module1").Export("test.bas
")
I think you can also import code this way but never tried it or got it 
to work or something.

John W. Colby wrote:

>In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is there
>an equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of Office)?  Do 
>these other platforms have references like we do in Access?  If so, can

>you reference an MDA/E to use code in it?
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>
>  
>

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Canada



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From JColby at dispec.com  Mon Nov  8 11:06:07 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 12:06:07 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF959@DISABILITYINS01>

This is an area that provides a stark glimpse into the disparate roots of
the various Office Applications.  There is plenty of code that can / should
run in any of the applications.  Aside from the fact that I use a table to
pull initialization values for the framework, the framework itself (or at
least the foundation) has nothing whatsoever that is platform specific.  It
sets itself up, it provides hooks for services such as zip / unzip, ftp,
error logging etc.  All of that is just VBA.  No references to forms or
reports.  All that stuff should work just fine from Word, Excel, Outlook
etc.  There are developers who create entire applications around Outlook for
example.  They live, breath and die inside Outlook.  Yet the framework could
provide a valid foundation for an Outlook application just as easily as for
an Access application.

Of course a DLL can be created, but that is nowhere near as simple as what
can be done in Access (for example) where the app and the mda are placed in
the same dir, the app references the mda and starts using it.  No visual
basic compiler, no registration of a DLL, no registry keys, no nada.  Just
use it.

I played around with Excel this morning for a few minutes.  I was able to
create a class.  I could not for the life of me figure out how to change the
NAME of the class although it is probably possible somewhere.  I could place
an ocx combo (for example) on a spreadsheet.  I could set the combo to bind
to a cell, take its values from a range.  The combo can fire events handled
in the sheet's module.  I could dim a variable for a class which sinks the
combo events etc. etc.  All the pieces are there to write pretty powerful
aps from right inside Excel.  Very similar, yet distinctly different from
doing it in Access.  

So now I have a framework that is just VBA, but it is in an Access MDA.  In
order to use it in Excel I have to either somehow move it all out to an
excel set of classes / modules, stored in a workbook or something, or go to
an entirely external environment, use a compiler to create a dll, then
install and reference that dll.  

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 11:28 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


But remember, Access doesn't use the same kind of forms that VB and the
other Office apps use.  If you want to share code, create a dll and
reference it in the various projects.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 5:37 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


Holy cow, is that a mish mash or what?  The point of my questions was to
try to find a common ground where code could be stored and run from all
of the various office applications.  Not to be it would seem.  It does
seem bizarre that if I had some function that should be able to run in
any of the apps I have to save the same thing in 5 different places so
that Access, Excel, Word, Powerpoint and Outlook could use it.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 2:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


In Excel you can store functions and modules as Public in .xla  files. 
Old Excel pre 97 didn't store the code in xla it
looked like an mde file. Matter of fact you can call these .xla files 
from Access. I have called functions from the Excel Statistical and 
Financial Analysis Packs.

In Outlook 2000  and any code that you create in the Outlook VBA 
environment is stored in a file named VBAProject.otm.
Even though you can copy the VBAProject.otm file, that's not a good way 
to distribute Outlook macros company-wide. The recommended method is to 
create an Outlook or Word  COM add-in. Talk to Shamil he has been 
upgrading com addins to dotnet. http://www.outlookcode.com/d/vb.htm
http://www.outlookcode.com/d/comaddins.htm

Word uses templates either user or workgroup (to be shared) in a 
specific folder
A template  contain macros or other customizations such as toolbars, it 
works better from some locations than others.
Again these com addin's can be used in place of macro's.
see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/index.htm

Just for future reference this method is also partially available under 
word and excel

Under the Tools/References menu in the VBE, you need to check the
Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 object
library. Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VBA\VBA6\VBE6EXT.OLB


The following code exports the contents of the Code Module to a file
called test.bas. This can be run from Word or Excel

Application.VBE.ActiveVBProject.VBComponents("Module1").Export("test.bas
")
I think you can also import code this way but never tried it or got it 
to work or something.

John W. Colby wrote:

>In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is there
>an equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of Office)?  Do 
>these other platforms have references like we do in Access?  If so, can

>you reference an MDA/E to use code in it?
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Nov  8 11:30:00 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 09:30:00 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
In-Reply-To: <000801c4c58f$74a397d0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIIEOLCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

How many book writers does that make within the list? An impressive group of
individuals.

Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 4:36 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


I am proposing a book to a publisher I just finished writing for, which will
be about reusable code for Microsoft Access specifically, modules, classes,
libraries and frameworks.

I was hoping to find a way to make the code accessible to different
platforms should someone be more comfortable working in Word or Excel.
While a com object would certainly accomplish this, it involves tools (and
expertise) outside of the office suite.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 11:09 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but ...

(From Q230225)
COM add-ins are a new feature in Microsoft Office 2000
and are supported by all Office programs, including Outlook.

Key benefits of COM add-ins include:

COM add-ins run in-process with the host program, so custom code generally
runs faster than code implemented in Visual Basic for Applications.

The basic COM add-in architecture is consistent across all Office programs,
whereas in previous versions of Office, each program had its own add-in
architecture.

You can create one COM add-in to use with more than one Office program.

Example:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/238228

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----- Original Message -----
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:46 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


> No, I'm talking about an application framework where the code is
> available to any Office application.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:16 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
> John,
>
> Are you talking about the designers?
>
> I thought you could have a common standard or class module within the
> dll, and just pass in the Application object as Object. Then just
> Select Case
to
> perform the appropriate action. I'll look again, but I'm pretty sure
that's
> it.
>
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 8:36 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
> > Holy cow, is that a mish mash or what?  The point of my questions
> > was to
> try
> > to find a common ground where code could be stored and run from all
> > of the various office applications.  Not to be it would seem.  It
> > does seem
> bizarre
> > that if I had some function that should be able to run in any of the
> > apps
> I
> > have to save the same thing in 5 different places so that Access,
> > Excel, Word, Powerpoint and Outlook could use it.
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > http://folding.stanford.edu/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> > MartyConnelly
> > Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 2:03 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
> >
> >
> > In Excel you can store functions and modules as Public in .xla
> > files. Old Excel pre 97 didn't store the code in xla it looked like
> > an mde file. Matter of fact you can call these .xla files from
> > Access. I have called functions from the Excel Statistical and
> > Financial Analysis Packs.
> >
> > In Outlook 2000  and any code that you create in the Outlook VBA
> > environment is stored in a file named VBAProject.otm. Even though
> > you can copy the VBAProject.otm file, that's not a good way to
> > distribute Outlook macros company-wide. The recommended method is to
> > create an Outlook or Word  COM add-in. Talk to Shamil he has been
> > upgrading com addins to dotnet. http://www.outlookcode.com/d/vb.htm
> > http://www.outlookcode.com/d/comaddins.htm
> >
> > Word uses templates either user or workgroup (to be shared) in a
> > specific folder A template  contain macros or other customizations
> > such as toolbars, it works better from some locations than others.
> > Again these com addin's can be used in place of macro's. see
> > http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/index.htm
> >
> > Just for future reference this method is also partially available
> > under word and excel
> >
> > Under the Tools/References menu in the VBE, you need to check the
> Microsoft
> > Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 object library.
> > Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 C:\Program
> > Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VBA\VBA6\VBE6EXT.OLB
> >
> >
> > The following code exports the contents of the Code Module to a file
> called
> > test.bas. This can be run from Word or Excel
> >
> > Application.VBE.ActiveVBProject.VBComponents("Module1").Export("test
> > .b
> > as")
> > I think you can also import code this way but never tried it or got it
> > to work or something.
> >
> > John W. Colby wrote:
> >
> > >In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is
> > >there an equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of
> > >Office)?  Do these other platforms have references like we do in
> > >Access?  If so, can you reference an MDA/E to use code in it?
> > >
> > >John W. Colby
> > >www.ColbyConsulting.com
> > >
> > >Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > >http://folding.stanford.edu/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Marty Connelly
> > Victoria, B.C.
> > Canada
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
> >
> >
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From JColby at dispec.com  Mon Nov  8 11:48:54 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 12:48:54 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF95A@DISABILITYINS01>

LOL.  You know the old saying "Its not what you know but who you know.".

Martin gave my name to Wrox.  I worked on one book for them then they went
bankrupt (hopefully through no fault of mine!).  Pieces were bought by Wiley
including the book I worked on.  They then contacted me about another
project.  

I want to do my own project though.  

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 12:30 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


How many book writers does that make within the list? An impressive group of
individuals.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 4:36 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


I am proposing a book to a publisher I just finished writing for, which will
be about reusable code for Microsoft Access specifically, modules, classes,
libraries and frameworks.

I was hoping to find a way to make the code accessible to different
platforms should someone be more comfortable working in Word or Excel.
While a com object would certainly accomplish this, it involves tools (and
expertise) outside of the office suite.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 11:09 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but ...

(From Q230225)
COM add-ins are a new feature in Microsoft Office 2000
and are supported by all Office programs, including Outlook.

Key benefits of COM add-ins include:

COM add-ins run in-process with the host program, so custom code generally
runs faster than code implemented in Visual Basic for Applications.

The basic COM add-in architecture is consistent across all Office programs,
whereas in previous versions of Office, each program had its own add-in
architecture.

You can create one COM add-in to use with more than one Office program.

Example:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/238228

----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com



----- Original Message -----
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:46 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


> No, I'm talking about an application framework where the code is
> available to any Office application.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:16 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
> John,
>
> Are you talking about the designers?
>
> I thought you could have a common standard or class module within the
> dll, and just pass in the Application object as Object. Then just
> Select Case
to
> perform the appropriate action. I'll look again, but I'm pretty sure
that's
> it.
>
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 8:36 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
> > Holy cow, is that a mish mash or what?  The point of my questions
> > was to
> try
> > to find a common ground where code could be stored and run from all
> > of the various office applications.  Not to be it would seem.  It
> > does seem
> bizarre
> > that if I had some function that should be able to run in any of the
> > apps
> I
> > have to save the same thing in 5 different places so that Access,
> > Excel, Word, Powerpoint and Outlook could use it.
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > http://folding.stanford.edu/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> > MartyConnelly
> > Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 2:03 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
> >
> >
> > In Excel you can store functions and modules as Public in .xla
> > files. Old Excel pre 97 didn't store the code in xla it looked like
> > an mde file. Matter of fact you can call these .xla files from
> > Access. I have called functions from the Excel Statistical and
> > Financial Analysis Packs.
> >
> > In Outlook 2000  and any code that you create in the Outlook VBA
> > environment is stored in a file named VBAProject.otm. Even though
> > you can copy the VBAProject.otm file, that's not a good way to
> > distribute Outlook macros company-wide. The recommended method is to
> > create an Outlook or Word  COM add-in. Talk to Shamil he has been
> > upgrading com addins to dotnet. http://www.outlookcode.com/d/vb.htm
> > http://www.outlookcode.com/d/comaddins.htm
> >
> > Word uses templates either user or workgroup (to be shared) in a
> > specific folder A template  contain macros or other customizations
> > such as toolbars, it works better from some locations than others.
> > Again these com addin's can be used in place of macro's. see
> > http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/index.htm
> >
> > Just for future reference this method is also partially available
> > under word and excel
> >
> > Under the Tools/References menu in the VBE, you need to check the
> Microsoft
> > Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 object library.
> > Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 C:\Program
> > Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VBA\VBA6\VBE6EXT.OLB
> >
> >
> > The following code exports the contents of the Code Module to a file
> called
> > test.bas. This can be run from Word or Excel
> >
> > Application.VBE.ActiveVBProject.VBComponents("Module1").Export("test
> > .b
> > as")
> > I think you can also import code this way but never tried it or got it
> > to work or something.
> >
> > John W. Colby wrote:
> >
> > >In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is
> > >there an equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of
> > >Office)?  Do these other platforms have references like we do in
> > >Access?  If so, can you reference an MDA/E to use code in it?
> > >
> > >John W. Colby
> > >www.ColbyConsulting.com
> > >
> > >Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > >http://folding.stanford.edu/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Marty Connelly
> > Victoria, B.C.
> > Canada
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > _______________________________________________
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> >
> >
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>
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Nov  8 13:09:23 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 13:09:23 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Missing months in a crosstab query
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337203@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Didn't you ask about this a couiple of weeks ago? Did you try this?

"Check out p 157 of Getz's ADH. He suggests using the IN clause. EX:
PIVOT column-headings-field [IN(value1[,value2[,...etc]])]"

Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Klos, Susan [mailto:Susan.Klos at fldoe.org]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 9:39 AM
To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: [AccessD] Missing months in a crosstab query


I have the following crosstab query which I am using to bind to a report:

TRANSFORM Sum(tlnklodgingEvent.Guests) AS [Number]

SELECT IIf([weekend]=True,"Cabin occupancy/Weekend","Cabin
occupancy/Midweek") AS Type, "Cabin" AS Category

FROM tblEvent INNER JOIN tlnklodgingEvent ON tblEvent.InvoiceNo =
tlnklodgingEvent.EventID

WHERE (((tlnklodgingEvent.LodgingID)=5 Or (tlnklodgingEvent.LodgingID)=7 Or
(tlnklodgingEvent.LodgingID)=27 Or (tlnklodgingEvent.LodgingID)=30))

GROUP BY IIf([weekend]=True,"Cabin occupancy/Weekend","Cabin
occupancy/Midweek"), "Cabin"

PIVOT Month(tblEvent.Beginningdate);

 

I want to have the report show all months even though there may be no data
for a particular month.  In the above query, I get data for January through
June and September through December.  Nobody stayed in cabins during July
and August.  So in the report I want to show zeroes in those columns.  I
tried using text boxes and IIF statements to test for null but I knew that
wouldn't work because month numbers 7 and 8 aren't null they just don't
exist in the query.  I tried looking in help to see if there was an "if
exists" function to see if I could see if the field exists in the query.  I
couldn't find anything like that.  Should I be working at the query level
instead to have the query insert a zero if there are months missing?  If so
I will need help on that also.  Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

850-245-0708 

sc 205-0708

 

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Nov  8 13:26:36 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 11:26:36 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
References: <000801c4c58f$74a397d0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <418FC86C.5000306@shaw.ca>

It gets even more complex from .dotnet framework calling Com via PIA 
with Word 2003 and Excel.2003
You might only get away with this, using Application Objects, available 
in most MS object models.
For example this code should be callable from any VBA editor Word, 
Excel, Access or PowerPoint
Instead of InternetExplorer.application below you could use 
Word.Application etc

Try this code for a chuckle useful if you have to display large amount 
of scrollable text in Access.

This will need WMI installed on the machine, either WinXP or win2000 for 
the WMI portion of
example to run. Win 98 can install WMI 1.5 but may not work

Sub testIE()
'------------------
' qfcheck.vbs   ver 1.0  3-Dec-2003
' Check Automatic Update Installation History for Hotfixes
'------------------
'http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?
url=/technet/scriptcenter/logs/scrlog08.asp


Dim objExplorer As Object
Dim objDocument As Object
Dim strComputer As String
Dim objWMIService As Object
Dim colLoggedEvents As Object
Dim objEvent As Object
Dim dtmDate As Variant
Dim strReturn As String

Set objExplorer = CreateObject("InternetExplorer.Application")
objExplorer.Navigate "about:blank" 'need this to open IE correctly or 
use url
objExplorer.Toolbar = 0 'set to 1 to turn on IE toolbar
objExplorer.StatusBar = 0 'set to 1 to turn on
objExplorer.Width = 800
objExplorer.Height = 570
objExplorer.Left = 0
objExplorer.Top = 0
objExplorer.Visible = 1

Do While (objExplorer.Busy)
Loop

Set objDocument = objExplorer.Document
objDocument.Open

objDocument.Writeln "<html><head><title>Automatic Updates Installation
History</title></head>"
objDocument.Writeln "<body bgcolor='white'>"
objDocument.Writeln "<table width='100%'>"
objDocument.Writeln "<tr>"
objDocument.Writeln "<td width='20%'><b>Computer Name</b></td>"
objDocument.Writeln "<td width='50%'><b>Installed Update(s)</b></td>"
objDocument.Writeln "<td width='50%'><b>Date and Time Installed</b></td>"
objDocument.Writeln "</tr>"

strComputer = "."
Set objWMIService = GetObject("winmgmts:" _
    & "{impersonationLevel=impersonate}!\\" & strComputer & "\root\cimv2")
    'IE Event code=19 WinXP=4377
Set colLoggedEvents = objWMIService.ExecQuery _
        ("SELECT * FROM Win32_NTLogEvent WHERE Logfile = 'System' AND " _
            & "EventCode = '19' OR EventCode = '4377'")
Dim i As Long
For Each objEvent In colLoggedEvents
    dtmDate = objEvent.TimeWritten
    strReturn = WMIDateStringTodate(dtmDate)

    objDocument.Writeln "<tr>"
    objDocument.Writeln "<td width='20%'>" & objEvent.ComputerName
& "</td>"
    objDocument.Writeln "<td width='50%'>" & objEvent.Message & "</td>"
    objDocument.Writeln "<td width='50%'>" & strReturn & "</td>"
    objDocument.Writeln "</tr>"
    i = i + 1
Next
Debug.Print "no of events=" & i
objDocument.Writeln "</table>"
objDocument.Writeln "</body></html>"
'objDocument.Write()
objDocument.Close
MsgBox "finished"
Set objExplorer = Nothing
Set objDocument = Nothing
Set objWMIService = Nothing
Set colLoggedEvents = Nothing
Set objEvent = Nothing
End Sub
Function WMIDateStringTodate(dtmDate)
'sorts out odd date structure
    WMIDateStringTodate = CDate(Mid(dtmDate, 5, 2) & "/" & _
        Mid(dtmDate, 7, 2) & "/" & Left(dtmDate, 4) _
            & " " & Mid(dtmDate, 9, 2) & ":" & _
                Mid(dtmDate, 11, 2) & ":" & Mid(dtmDate, _
                    13, 2))
End Function


John W. Colby wrote:

>I am proposing a book to a publisher I just finished writing for, which will
>be about reusable code for Microsoft Access specifically, modules, classes,
>libraries and frameworks.  
>
>I was hoping to find a way to make the code accessible to different
>platforms should someone be more comfortable working in Word or Excel.
>While a com object would certainly accomplish this, it involves tools (and
>expertise) outside of the office suite.
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com 
>
>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys
>Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 11:09 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
>Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but ...
>
>(From Q230225)
>COM add-ins are a new feature in Microsoft Office 2000
>and are supported by all Office programs, including Outlook.
>
>Key benefits of COM add-ins include:
>
>COM add-ins run in-process with the host program, so custom code generally
>runs faster than code implemented in Visual Basic for Applications.
>
>The basic COM add-in architecture is consistent across all Office programs,
>whereas in previous versions of Office, each program had its own add-in
>architecture.
>
>You can create one COM add-in to use with more than one Office program.
>
>Example:
>
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/238228
>
>----
>
>Michael R. Mattys
>Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:46 PM
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
>  
>
>>No, I'm talking about an application framework where the code is 
>>available to any Office application.
>>
>>John W. Colby
>>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>
>>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
>>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
>>    
>>
>Mattys
>  
>
>>Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:16 PM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>>
>>
>>John,
>>
>>Are you talking about the designers?
>>
>>I thought you could have a common standard or class module within the 
>>dll, and just pass in the Application object as Object. Then just 
>>Select Case
>>    
>>
>to
>  
>
>>perform the appropriate action. I'll look again, but I'm pretty sure
>>    
>>
>that's
>  
>
>>it.
>>
>>----
>>
>>Michael R. Mattys
>>Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
>>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 8:36 PM
>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Holy cow, is that a mish mash or what?  The point of my questions 
>>>was to
>>>      
>>>
>>try
>>    
>>
>>>to find a common ground where code could be stored and run from all 
>>>of the various office applications.  Not to be it would seem.  It 
>>>does seem
>>>      
>>>
>>bizarre
>>    
>>
>>>that if I had some function that should be able to run in any of the 
>>>apps
>>>      
>>>
>>I
>>    
>>
>>>have to save the same thing in 5 different places so that Access, 
>>>Excel, Word, Powerpoint and Outlook could use it.
>>>
>>>John W. Colby
>>>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>>
>>>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
>>>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
>>>MartyConnelly
>>>Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 2:03 PM
>>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>>>
>>>
>>>In Excel you can store functions and modules as Public in .xla  
>>>files. Old Excel pre 97 didn't store the code in xla it looked like 
>>>an mde file. Matter of fact you can call these .xla files from 
>>>Access. I have called functions from the Excel Statistical and 
>>>Financial Analysis Packs.
>>>
>>>In Outlook 2000  and any code that you create in the Outlook VBA 
>>>environment is stored in a file named VBAProject.otm. Even though 
>>>you can copy the VBAProject.otm file, that's not a good way to 
>>>distribute Outlook macros company-wide. The recommended method is to 
>>>create an Outlook or Word  COM add-in. Talk to Shamil he has been 
>>>upgrading com addins to dotnet. http://www.outlookcode.com/d/vb.htm
>>>http://www.outlookcode.com/d/comaddins.htm
>>>
>>>Word uses templates either user or workgroup (to be shared) in a 
>>>specific folder A template  contain macros or other customizations 
>>>such as toolbars, it works better from some locations than others. 
>>>Again these com addin's can be used in place of macro's. see
>>>http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/index.htm
>>>
>>>Just for future reference this method is also partially available 
>>>under word and excel
>>>
>>>Under the Tools/References menu in the VBE, you need to check the
>>>      
>>>
>>Microsoft
>>    
>>
>>>Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 object library. 
>>>Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 C:\Program 
>>>Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VBA\VBA6\VBE6EXT.OLB
>>>
>>>
>>>The following code exports the contents of the Code Module to a file
>>>      
>>>
>>called
>>    
>>
>>>test.bas. This can be run from Word or Excel
>>>
>>>Application.VBE.ActiveVBProject.VBComponents("Module1").Export("test
>>>.b
>>>as")
>>>I think you can also import code this way but never tried it or got it
>>>to work or something.
>>>
>>>John W. Colby wrote:
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is 
>>>>there an equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of 
>>>>Office)?  Do these other platforms have references like we do in 
>>>>Access?  If so, can you reference an MDA/E to use code in it?
>>>>
>>>>John W. Colby
>>>>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>>>
>>>>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
>>>>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>--
>>>Marty Connelly
>>>Victoria, B.C.
>>>Canada
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>--
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>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Nov  8 14:51:40 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 12:51:40 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Remote Queries
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D06C@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIKEOMCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Just a note:

There might be a better way to handle access to the remote database. It will
not solve the problem if the database location is changed but it will handle
the security issue.

See:
http://www.able-consulting.com/MDAC/ADO/Connection/OLEDB_Providers.htm#OLEDB
ProviderForMicrosoftJet for ADO connection string

Set variables like:

Dim gstrConnection As String
Dim gconMYRemoteDB As ADODB.Command
Dim strSQL as String
Public rsMyRecordset As ADODB.Recordset

gstrConnection = "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;" & _
                 "Data Source=C:\Databases\Process.mdb;" & _
                 "Jet OLEDB:System Database=MySystem.mdw", _
                 "myUsername", "myPassword"

Set gconMYRemoteDB = New ADODB.Command

With gconMYRemoteDB
 .ActiveConnection = gstrConnection
 .CommandText = "Select * from MyTable Where MyFirstField = 1"
 .CommandType = adCmdText
End With

...or... if you are using a query from the remote DB that has a parameter
you would use something like this...

With gconMYRemoteDB
 .ActiveConnection = gstrConnection
 .CommandText = "qryMyQueryName"
 .CommandType = adCmdStoredProc
 .Parameters.Append .CreateParameter("NameofParameterToFill", adChar,
adParamInput, 10, strParameterValueToPass)
End With

'To fill a recordset
Set rsMyRecordset = New ADODB.Recordset

With rsMyRecordset
 .CursorLocation = adUseClient
 ' Note; dynamic and record locking. Mandatory for multi-user
 ' environments as MDBs are not as sophisticated as SQL servers
 ' and that implies code to manage record data changes or conflicts.
 .Open gconMYRemoteDB, , adOpenDynamic, adLockOptimistic
 If .BOF = False Or .EOF = False Then .MoveLast
End With

...or to simply execute a command...

strSQL = "INSERT INTO MyTable ( MyField1, MyField2 ) " & _
       "VALUES(" & Str(Variable1) & ", '" & Variable2 & "')"

gconMYRemoteDB.Execute strSQL

Set gconMYRemoteDB = Nothing

This way is ideal as you can have as many DBs open as you wish (within
system limits of course), all at once. This also manages the issues of
security. Hopefully that DBs do not wander around to frequently so that
their locations have to be continually managed. (Note that previous was done
from memory with limited reliability.)

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 7:45 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remote Queries


There are drawbacks.  I don't believe you can specificy a different .mdw or
username/password  with this type of statement.  Also, what if the Backend
is moved?  Instead of having to relink the tables, you'll have to change the
SQL in everything that uses this path.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 7:41 AM
To: Database Advisors
Subject: [AccessD] Remote Queries


Has anyone had experience with what is called a Remote Query?



This is where you write the complete path to a table in the Select statement
for a recordset or a form or report recordsource.



An example:



"SELECT * FROM tblProcessMain" _

            " IN 'C:\Databases\Process.mdb'" _

            " WHERE ProcessStage <> 'Closed'"



Using a remote query means that a Front End doesn't need to link to a Back
End.  It also allows a Front End to be distributed without table links and
queries - thus hiding the location of the Back End.



This is new to me!  What might be the pros/cons/problems with using Remote
Queries?



TIA,

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Nov  8 15:00:08 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 13:00:08 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
In-Reply-To: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF95A@DISABILITYINS01>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIEEONCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

WROX is gone?!! :-(  Just bought one of their VB.Net books.

I have so many of their books around here I feel like an advertisement.
There must be thousands of their book currently in the system as many local
bookstores still have many of their books on their shelves.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 9:49 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


LOL.  You know the old saying "Its not what you know but who you know.".

Martin gave my name to Wrox.  I worked on one book for them then they went
bankrupt (hopefully through no fault of mine!).  Pieces were bought by Wiley
including the book I worked on.  They then contacted me about another
project.

I want to do my own project though.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 12:30 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


How many book writers does that make within the list? An impressive group of
individuals.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 4:36 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


I am proposing a book to a publisher I just finished writing for, which will
be about reusable code for Microsoft Access specifically, modules, classes,
libraries and frameworks.

I was hoping to find a way to make the code accessible to different
platforms should someone be more comfortable working in Word or Excel.
While a com object would certainly accomplish this, it involves tools (and
expertise) outside of the office suite.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 11:09 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but ...

(From Q230225)
COM add-ins are a new feature in Microsoft Office 2000
and are supported by all Office programs, including Outlook.

Key benefits of COM add-ins include:

COM add-ins run in-process with the host program, so custom code generally
runs faster than code implemented in Visual Basic for Applications.

The basic COM add-in architecture is consistent across all Office programs,
whereas in previous versions of Office, each program had its own add-in
architecture.

You can create one COM add-in to use with more than one Office program.

Example:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/238228

----

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----- Original Message -----
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:46 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


> No, I'm talking about an application framework where the code is
> available to any Office application.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:16 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
> John,
>
> Are you talking about the designers?
>
> I thought you could have a common standard or class module within the
> dll, and just pass in the Application object as Object. Then just
> Select Case
to
> perform the appropriate action. I'll look again, but I'm pretty sure
that's
> it.
>
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 8:36 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
> > Holy cow, is that a mish mash or what?  The point of my questions
> > was to
> try
> > to find a common ground where code could be stored and run from all
> > of the various office applications.  Not to be it would seem.  It
> > does seem
> bizarre
> > that if I had some function that should be able to run in any of the
> > apps
> I
> > have to save the same thing in 5 different places so that Access,
> > Excel, Word, Powerpoint and Outlook could use it.
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > http://folding.stanford.edu/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> > MartyConnelly
> > Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 2:03 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
> >
> >
> > In Excel you can store functions and modules as Public in .xla
> > files. Old Excel pre 97 didn't store the code in xla it looked like
> > an mde file. Matter of fact you can call these .xla files from
> > Access. I have called functions from the Excel Statistical and
> > Financial Analysis Packs.
> >
> > In Outlook 2000  and any code that you create in the Outlook VBA
> > environment is stored in a file named VBAProject.otm. Even though
> > you can copy the VBAProject.otm file, that's not a good way to
> > distribute Outlook macros company-wide. The recommended method is to
> > create an Outlook or Word  COM add-in. Talk to Shamil he has been
> > upgrading com addins to dotnet. http://www.outlookcode.com/d/vb.htm
> > http://www.outlookcode.com/d/comaddins.htm
> >
> > Word uses templates either user or workgroup (to be shared) in a
> > specific folder A template  contain macros or other customizations
> > such as toolbars, it works better from some locations than others.
> > Again these com addin's can be used in place of macro's. see
> > http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/index.htm
> >
> > Just for future reference this method is also partially available
> > under word and excel
> >
> > Under the Tools/References menu in the VBE, you need to check the
> Microsoft
> > Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 object library.
> > Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 C:\Program
> > Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VBA\VBA6\VBE6EXT.OLB
> >
> >
> > The following code exports the contents of the Code Module to a file
> called
> > test.bas. This can be run from Word or Excel
> >
> > Application.VBE.ActiveVBProject.VBComponents("Module1").Export("test
> > .b
> > as")
> > I think you can also import code this way but never tried it or got it
> > to work or something.
> >
> > John W. Colby wrote:
> >
> > >In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is
> > >there an equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of
> > >Office)?  Do these other platforms have references like we do in
> > >Access?  If so, can you reference an MDA/E to use code in it?
> > >
> > >John W. Colby
> > >www.ColbyConsulting.com
> > >
> > >Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > >http://folding.stanford.edu/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Marty Connelly
> > Victoria, B.C.
> > Canada
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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From pedro at plex.nl  Mon Nov  8 15:35:36 2004
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 22:35:36 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] how to do this?
References: <200411050926.iA59QM8s014181@mailhostC.plex.net>
	<418BAEDB.7090507@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <001501c4c5da$e3c3d120$f8c581d5@pedro>

Thank you Marty, this is very usefull.

Pedro Janssen


----- Original Message -----
From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] how to do this?


> Well you can either store the Quantity on Hand or Calculate it
> Here is an article that describes the pros and cons, This will affect
> your overall design.
> Inventory Control: Quantity on Hand
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~allenbrowne/AppInventory.html
>
>
> pedro at plex.nl wrote:
>
> >Hello Group,
> >
> >What is the best way to do the following routine?
> >
> >I have a form with a field: [ArticleNumber]. I am scanning a barcode and
the Article Number is placed in the field. When the Article number is placed
this number must be processed as Follows; (in the table behind the form is
also a field: [Quantity]) the value of [Quantity] must be decreased with 1.
When the amount of [Quantity] reaches a certain minimum a message box must
appear.
> >
> >How can this been done.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Pedro Janssen
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
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> Victoria, B.C.
> Canada
>
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Nov  8 15:41:50 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 16:41:50 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
In-Reply-To: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIEEONCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <001d01c4c5db$c59dcf60$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

I think Wiley bought some of the books and the trademark.  The book I worked
on still sells.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
(AccessD)
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 4:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


WROX is gone?!! :-(  Just bought one of their VB.Net books.

I have so many of their books around here I feel like an advertisement.
There must be thousands of their book currently in the system as many local
bookstores still have many of their books on their shelves.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 9:49 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


LOL.  You know the old saying "Its not what you know but who you know.".

Martin gave my name to Wrox.  I worked on one book for them then they went
bankrupt (hopefully through no fault of mine!).  Pieces were bought by Wiley
including the book I worked on.  They then contacted me about another
project.

I want to do my own project though.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 12:30 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


How many book writers does that make within the list? An impressive group of
individuals.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 4:36 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


I am proposing a book to a publisher I just finished writing for, which will
be about reusable code for Microsoft Access specifically, modules, classes,
libraries and frameworks.

I was hoping to find a way to make the code accessible to different
platforms should someone be more comfortable working in Word or Excel. While
a com object would certainly accomplish this, it involves tools (and
expertise) outside of the office suite.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 11:09 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but ...

(From Q230225)
COM add-ins are a new feature in Microsoft Office 2000
and are supported by all Office programs, including Outlook.

Key benefits of COM add-ins include:

COM add-ins run in-process with the host program, so custom code generally
runs faster than code implemented in Visual Basic for Applications.

The basic COM add-in architecture is consistent across all Office programs,
whereas in previous versions of Office, each program had its own add-in
architecture.

You can create one COM add-in to use with more than one Office program.

Example:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/238228

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----- Original Message -----
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:46 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


> No, I'm talking about an application framework where the code is 
> available to any Office application.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:16 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
> John,
>
> Are you talking about the designers?
>
> I thought you could have a common standard or class module within the 
> dll, and just pass in the Application object as Object. Then just 
> Select Case
to
> perform the appropriate action. I'll look again, but I'm pretty sure
that's
> it.
>
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 8:36 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
> > Holy cow, is that a mish mash or what?  The point of my questions 
> > was to
> try
> > to find a common ground where code could be stored and run from all 
> > of the various office applications.  Not to be it would seem.  It 
> > does seem
> bizarre
> > that if I had some function that should be able to run in any of the 
> > apps
> I
> > have to save the same thing in 5 different places so that Access, 
> > Excel, Word, Powerpoint and Outlook could use it.
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> > http://folding.stanford.edu/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> > MartyConnelly
> > Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 2:03 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
> >
> >
> > In Excel you can store functions and modules as Public in .xla 
> > files. Old Excel pre 97 didn't store the code in xla it looked like 
> > an mde file. Matter of fact you can call these .xla files from 
> > Access. I have called functions from the Excel Statistical and 
> > Financial Analysis Packs.
> >
> > In Outlook 2000  and any code that you create in the Outlook VBA 
> > environment is stored in a file named VBAProject.otm. Even though 
> > you can copy the VBAProject.otm file, that's not a good way to 
> > distribute Outlook macros company-wide. The recommended method is to 
> > create an Outlook or Word  COM add-in. Talk to Shamil he has been 
> > upgrading com addins to dotnet. http://www.outlookcode.com/d/vb.htm
> > http://www.outlookcode.com/d/comaddins.htm
> >
> > Word uses templates either user or workgroup (to be shared) in a 
> > specific folder A template  contain macros or other customizations 
> > such as toolbars, it works better from some locations than others. 
> > Again these com addin's can be used in place of macro's. see 
> > http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/index.htm
> >
> > Just for future reference this method is also partially available 
> > under word and excel
> >
> > Under the Tools/References menu in the VBE, you need to check the
> Microsoft
> > Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 object library. 
> > Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 C:\Program 
> > Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VBA\VBA6\VBE6EXT.OLB
> >
> >
> > The following code exports the contents of the Code Module to a file
> called
> > test.bas. This can be run from Word or Excel
> >
> > Application.VBE.ActiveVBProject.VBComponents("Module1").Export("test
> > .b
> > as")
> > I think you can also import code this way but never tried it or got 
> > it to work or something.
> >
> > John W. Colby wrote:
> >
> > >In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is 
> > >there an equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of 
> > >Office)?  Do these other platforms have references like we do in 
> > >Access?  If so, can you reference an MDA/E to use code in it?
> > >
> > >John W. Colby
> > >www.ColbyConsulting.com
> > >
> > >Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> > >http://folding.stanford.edu/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Marty Connelly
> > Victoria, B.C.
> > Canada
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
> >
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From pedro at plex.nl  Mon Nov  8 15:47:56 2004
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 22:47:56 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] difficult query??
Message-ID: <004a01c4c5dc$9bef3a40$f8c581d5@pedro>

Hello Group,

i have a table [tblA] with 20 fields.
One of these fields [Number] has a value from 1 to 25.
I would like each record with a value in field [number] giving the ammount of records of the value of field Number in a new table. And the value of field [Number] must change into "X". All other fields must also be present.

for example

i have
tblA

ID   fieldA  Number etc etc etc
1       A           3


i need 
ID   fieldA  Number etc etc etc
1       A           X
1       A           X
1       A           X

Can this been done?

Thanks

Pedro Janssen


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Nov  8 16:04:35 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 14:04:35 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B58@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Didn't aPress buy some of them as well?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 1:42 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


I think Wiley bought some of the books and the trademark.  The book I
worked on still sells.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
(AccessD)
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 4:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


WROX is gone?!! :-(  Just bought one of their VB.Net books.

I have so many of their books around here I feel like an advertisement.
There must be thousands of their book currently in the system as many
local bookstores still have many of their books on their shelves.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 9:49 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


LOL.  You know the old saying "Its not what you know but who you know.".

Martin gave my name to Wrox.  I worked on one book for them then they
went bankrupt (hopefully through no fault of mine!).  Pieces were bought
by Wiley including the book I worked on.  They then contacted me about
another project.

I want to do my own project though.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 12:30 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


How many book writers does that make within the list? An impressive
group of individuals.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 4:36 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


I am proposing a book to a publisher I just finished writing for, which
will be about reusable code for Microsoft Access specifically, modules,
classes, libraries and frameworks.

I was hoping to find a way to make the code accessible to different
platforms should someone be more comfortable working in Word or Excel.
While a com object would certainly accomplish this, it involves tools
(and
expertise) outside of the office suite.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 11:09 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but ...

(From Q230225)
COM add-ins are a new feature in Microsoft Office 2000
and are supported by all Office programs, including Outlook.

Key benefits of COM add-ins include:

COM add-ins run in-process with the host program, so custom code
generally runs faster than code implemented in Visual Basic for
Applications.

The basic COM add-in architecture is consistent across all Office
programs, whereas in previous versions of Office, each program had its
own add-in architecture.

You can create one COM add-in to use with more than one Office program.

Example:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/238228

----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com



----- Original Message -----
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:46 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


> No, I'm talking about an application framework where the code is
> available to any Office application.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:16 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
> John,
>
> Are you talking about the designers?
>
> I thought you could have a common standard or class module within the
> dll, and just pass in the Application object as Object. Then just 
> Select Case
to
> perform the appropriate action. I'll look again, but I'm pretty sure
that's
> it.
>
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 8:36 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
> > Holy cow, is that a mish mash or what?  The point of my questions
> > was to
> try
> > to find a common ground where code could be stored and run from all
> > of the various office applications.  Not to be it would seem.  It 
> > does seem
> bizarre
> > that if I had some function that should be able to run in any of the
> > apps
> I
> > have to save the same thing in 5 different places so that Access,
> > Excel, Word, Powerpoint and Outlook could use it.
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > http://folding.stanford.edu/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> > MartyConnelly
> > Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 2:03 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
> >
> >
> > In Excel you can store functions and modules as Public in .xla
> > files. Old Excel pre 97 didn't store the code in xla it looked like 
> > an mde file. Matter of fact you can call these .xla files from 
> > Access. I have called functions from the Excel Statistical and 
> > Financial Analysis Packs.
> >
> > In Outlook 2000  and any code that you create in the Outlook VBA
> > environment is stored in a file named VBAProject.otm. Even though 
> > you can copy the VBAProject.otm file, that's not a good way to 
> > distribute Outlook macros company-wide. The recommended method is to

> > create an Outlook or Word  COM add-in. Talk to Shamil he has been 
> > upgrading com addins to dotnet. http://www.outlookcode.com/d/vb.htm
> > http://www.outlookcode.com/d/comaddins.htm
> >
> > Word uses templates either user or workgroup (to be shared) in a
> > specific folder A template  contain macros or other customizations 
> > such as toolbars, it works better from some locations than others. 
> > Again these com addin's can be used in place of macro's. see 
> > http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/index.htm
> >
> > Just for future reference this method is also partially available
> > under word and excel
> >
> > Under the Tools/References menu in the VBE, you need to check the
> Microsoft
> > Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 object library.
> > Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 C:\Program

> > Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VBA\VBA6\VBE6EXT.OLB
> >
> >
> > The following code exports the contents of the Code Module to a file
> called
> > test.bas. This can be run from Word or Excel
> >
> > Application.VBE.ActiveVBProject.VBComponents("Module1").Export("test
> > .b
> > as")
> > I think you can also import code this way but never tried it or got
> > it to work or something.
> >
> > John W. Colby wrote:
> >
> > >In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is
> > >there an equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of 
> > >Office)?  Do these other platforms have references like we do in 
> > >Access?  If so, can you reference an MDA/E to use code in it?
> > >
> > >John W. Colby
> > >www.ColbyConsulting.com
> > >
> > >Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > >http://folding.stanford.edu/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Marty Connelly
> > Victoria, B.C.
> > Canada
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > _______________________________________________
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
>
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From starkey at wanadoo.nl  Mon Nov  8 16:13:22 2004
From: starkey at wanadoo.nl (StaRKeY)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 23:13:22 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] difficult query??
In-Reply-To: <004a01c4c5dc$9bef3a40$f8c581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <20041108220911.E970EE7@smtp4.wanadoo.nl>

Hi Pedro, 

Must this be done in SQL/query or are you allowed to use a loop? 
If you can use a loop I'd use the number field in a nested loop (eg. 1 to
nr.) to add all records into a new table having the numberfield filled with
'X.


Regards, 
Eric Starkenburg 

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- 
Van: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Pedro Janssen 
Verzonden: maandag 8 november 2004 22:48 
Aan: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
Onderwerp: [AccessD] difficult query?? 

Hello Group, 

i have a table [tblA] with 20 fields. 
One of these fields [Number] has a value from 1 to 25. 
I would like each record with a value in field [number] giving the ammount
of records of the value of field Number in a new table. And the value of
field [Number] must change into "X". All other fields must also be present.

for example 

i have 
tblA 

ID   fieldA  Number etc etc etc 
1       A           3 


i need 
ID   fieldA  Number etc etc etc 
1       A           X 
1       A           X 
1       A           X 

Can this been done? 

Thanks 

Pedro Janssen 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Nov  8 16:26:38 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 17:26:38 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B58@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <002001c4c5e2$07f2a600$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

I'm not sure really.  Since mine was bought by Wiley I kind of lost interest
in the rest.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 5:05 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


Didn't aPress buy some of them as well?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 1:42 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


I think Wiley bought some of the books and the trademark.  The book I worked
on still sells.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
(AccessD)
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 4:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


WROX is gone?!! :-(  Just bought one of their VB.Net books.

I have so many of their books around here I feel like an advertisement.
There must be thousands of their book currently in the system as many local
bookstores still have many of their books on their shelves.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 9:49 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


LOL.  You know the old saying "Its not what you know but who you know.".

Martin gave my name to Wrox.  I worked on one book for them then they went
bankrupt (hopefully through no fault of mine!).  Pieces were bought by Wiley
including the book I worked on.  They then contacted me about another
project.

I want to do my own project though.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 12:30 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


How many book writers does that make within the list? An impressive group of
individuals.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 4:36 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


I am proposing a book to a publisher I just finished writing for, which will
be about reusable code for Microsoft Access specifically, modules, classes,
libraries and frameworks.

I was hoping to find a way to make the code accessible to different
platforms should someone be more comfortable working in Word or Excel. While
a com object would certainly accomplish this, it involves tools (and
expertise) outside of the office suite.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 11:09 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but ...

(From Q230225)
COM add-ins are a new feature in Microsoft Office 2000
and are supported by all Office programs, including Outlook.

Key benefits of COM add-ins include:

COM add-ins run in-process with the host program, so custom code generally
runs faster than code implemented in Visual Basic for Applications.

The basic COM add-in architecture is consistent across all Office programs,
whereas in previous versions of Office, each program had its own add-in
architecture.

You can create one COM add-in to use with more than one Office program.

Example:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/238228

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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


> No, I'm talking about an application framework where the code is 
> available to any Office application.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:16 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
> John,
>
> Are you talking about the designers?
>
> I thought you could have a common standard or class module within the 
> dll, and just pass in the Application object as Object. Then just 
> Select Case
to
> perform the appropriate action. I'll look again, but I'm pretty sure
that's
> it.
>
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
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>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 8:36 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
> > Holy cow, is that a mish mash or what?  The point of my questions 
> > was to
> try
> > to find a common ground where code could be stored and run from all 
> > of the various office applications.  Not to be it would seem.  It 
> > does seem
> bizarre
> > that if I had some function that should be able to run in any of the 
> > apps
> I
> > have to save the same thing in 5 different places so that Access, 
> > Excel, Word, Powerpoint and Outlook could use it.
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> > http://folding.stanford.edu/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> > MartyConnelly
> > Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 2:03 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
> >
> >
> > In Excel you can store functions and modules as Public in .xla 
> > files. Old Excel pre 97 didn't store the code in xla it looked like 
> > an mde file. Matter of fact you can call these .xla files from 
> > Access. I have called functions from the Excel Statistical and 
> > Financial Analysis Packs.
> >
> > In Outlook 2000  and any code that you create in the Outlook VBA 
> > environment is stored in a file named VBAProject.otm. Even though 
> > you can copy the VBAProject.otm file, that's not a good way to 
> > distribute Outlook macros company-wide. The recommended method is to

> > create an Outlook or Word  COM add-in. Talk to Shamil he has been
> > upgrading com addins to dotnet. http://www.outlookcode.com/d/vb.htm
> > http://www.outlookcode.com/d/comaddins.htm
> >
> > Word uses templates either user or workgroup (to be shared) in a 
> > specific folder A template  contain macros or other customizations 
> > such as toolbars, it works better from some locations than others. 
> > Again these com addin's can be used in place of macro's. see 
> > http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/index.htm
> >
> > Just for future reference this method is also partially available 
> > under word and excel
> >
> > Under the Tools/References menu in the VBE, you need to check the
> Microsoft
> > Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 object library. 
> > Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 C:\Program

> > Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VBA\VBA6\VBE6EXT.OLB
> >
> >
> > The following code exports the contents of the Code Module to a file
> called
> > test.bas. This can be run from Word or Excel
> >
> > Application.VBE.ActiveVBProject.VBComponents("Module1").Export("test
> > .b
> > as")
> > I think you can also import code this way but never tried it or got 
> > it to work or something.
> >
> > John W. Colby wrote:
> >
> > >In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is 
> > >there an equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of 
> > >Office)?  Do these other platforms have references like we do in 
> > >Access?  If so, can you reference an MDA/E to use code in it?
> > >
> > >John W. Colby
> > >www.ColbyConsulting.com
> > >
> > >Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Mon Nov  8 18:27:51 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 01:27:51 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Powerpoint Autoexec?
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B54FC@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

How can I automaticaly run a VBA sub routine in Powerpoint when the
presentation is loaded???
Like the auotexec macro in Access.
 
thx
 
 

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Nov  8 22:44:01 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 20:44:01 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Powerpoint Autoexec?
References: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B54FC@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <41904B11.7060506@shaw.ca>

Powerpoint mvps
http://www.mvps.org/links.html#PowerPoint
Here is how to start from Access
http://www.mvps.org/skp/vb/vbppt001.htm
or look through here
http://www.mvps.org/links.html#PowerPoint

Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:

>How can I automaticaly run a VBA sub routine in Powerpoint when the
>presentation is loaded???
>Like the auotexec macro in Access.
> 
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> 
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From ebarro at afsweb.com  Mon Nov  8 22:44:29 2004
From: ebarro at afsweb.com (Eric Barro)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 20:44:29 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] leveraging the power of the database versus code
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Cross-posted to dba-SQLServer list:

Ok I need to generate a crosstab query (aka pivot table) using SQL server. The problem with SQL server is that it can't handle dynamically generated columns. In other words you would need to hard code the names of the columns which assumes that you know them beforehand. However, in most cases, the column values could not be determined ahead of time. Access of course handles this with great aplomb. But SQL server? Well...that's another story. :)

So...I found a way to do this utilizing a stored procedure that dynamically generates the SELECT statements and uses a temporary table to store the values. You'd think that would be the end of the story...BUT the dba balked at the proposed method since according to him SQL server was not designed to handle this sort of stuff and that the dynamically generated SELECT statements would be highly inefficient.

My question then to the group is this...

Is it not better to let SQL server handle the load and the processing on the server side rather than let the client side handle all that processing?

To take an example:

State	Product1	Product2	Product3
CA	1000		500		200
MA	900		200		450
NV	600		600		600

where Products are dynamically generated

The method I discovered to produce the desired results using a stored procedure worked. The suggestion I got was to handle all of that processing in code (outside of SQL server). Which means that in order to produce the desired results above, the code would need to grab the recordset from SQL server, and for each column generate the appropriate SELECT statement to return the values to either populate an in-memory array or post the results to a table from which it can read the final results.

Now...given that scenario isn't it more efficient to let SQL server handle all of that processing given that it handles all of the processing on the server side instead of client side basically resulting in less round trips from the web server to the SQL server?

I would appreciate feedback from you guys.





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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Nov  8 22:52:48 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 15:52:48 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Currency as a percentage
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Hey Deano
Thanks Gustav and Deano

You guys are legends

I have done it a million times - but it's one of those copy and paste deals
for me
I neven learn that stuff - toooooo sanguine :-))

See ya'll
Many thanks again
DD


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dean Ellis
Sent: Tuesday, 2 November 2004 10:10 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: Currency as a percentage


Dazza,

The formula is fairly simple. Just divide 5 (being the percentage) by 100
and multiply it by the dollar amount. This will give the percentage og the
dollar amount in dollars.

Putting it into context.

Percent field = txtpercent
Dollar field = txtdollar
discount field = txtdiscount

txtdiscount = txtdollar * (txtpercent/100)

Cheers

Dean

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Sent: Tuesday, 2 November 2004 9:46 PM
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Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Currency as a percentage


Hello all

Can never remember how to do percentages off the top of my head <sigh>

I have a a form that allows users to put in any Dollar amount for a discount
I also want to put in another txtBox and allow users to type in say...5 and
have the machine calculate discounts in Dollars from the "5" value

Thus have access caculate (in this case) 5 percent of the whole and then put
that currency amount (EG 5% of $100.00 = $5.00) of $5.00 in the discount
field

Make sense?

many thanks in advance

Darren

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From actebs at actebs.com.au  Mon Nov  8 23:19:43 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 16:19:43 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Word Docs Bookmark Check
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BD1@starfleet.unknown.local>

Hi Guys,

I am doing a merge to word using bookmarks. There are numerous word docs associated with activities and the user sets this up via the app setup screen. What I need to check is whether the bookmark for that activity type exists within the user selected document. Can this be done?

Basically the procedure is as follows:

a) User nominates a document to an activity
b) User processes a transaction which instigates the word merge process which saves the doc with merged data

Before I merge I need to check whether all the bookmarks in the doc exist, otherwise the wrong document has been selected for that activity...

I hope I explained it well enough...

Regards
Vlad



From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Nov  8 23:35:21 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 21:35:21 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
In-Reply-To: <418FC86C.5000306@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIMEPACHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Marty:

The code and explanation can now be found at:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnclinic/ht
ml/scripting06112002.asp

Jim

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Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 11:27 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


It gets even more complex from .dotnet framework calling Com via PIA
with Word 2003 and Excel.2003
You might only get away with this, using Application Objects, available
in most MS object models.
For example this code should be callable from any VBA editor Word,
Excel, Access or PowerPoint
Instead of InternetExplorer.application below you could use
Word.Application etc

Try this code for a chuckle useful if you have to display large amount
of scrollable text in Access.

This will need WMI installed on the machine, either WinXP or win2000 for
the WMI portion of
example to run. Win 98 can install WMI 1.5 but may not work

Sub testIE()
'------------------
' qfcheck.vbs   ver 1.0  3-Dec-2003
' Check Automatic Update Installation History for Hotfixes
'------------------
'http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?
url=/technet/scriptcenter/logs/scrlog08.asp


Dim objExplorer As Object
Dim objDocument As Object
Dim strComputer As String
Dim objWMIService As Object
Dim colLoggedEvents As Object
Dim objEvent As Object
Dim dtmDate As Variant
Dim strReturn As String

Set objExplorer = CreateObject("InternetExplorer.Application")
objExplorer.Navigate "about:blank" 'need this to open IE correctly or
use url
objExplorer.Toolbar = 0 'set to 1 to turn on IE toolbar
objExplorer.StatusBar = 0 'set to 1 to turn on
objExplorer.Width = 800
objExplorer.Height = 570
objExplorer.Left = 0
objExplorer.Top = 0
objExplorer.Visible = 1

Do While (objExplorer.Busy)
Loop

Set objDocument = objExplorer.Document
objDocument.Open

objDocument.Writeln "<html><head><title>Automatic Updates Installation
History</title></head>"
objDocument.Writeln "<body bgcolor='white'>"
objDocument.Writeln "<table width='100%'>"
objDocument.Writeln "<tr>"
objDocument.Writeln "<td width='20%'><b>Computer Name</b></td>"
objDocument.Writeln "<td width='50%'><b>Installed Update(s)</b></td>"
objDocument.Writeln "<td width='50%'><b>Date and Time Installed</b></td>"
objDocument.Writeln "</tr>"

strComputer = "."
Set objWMIService = GetObject("winmgmts:" _
    & "{impersonationLevel=impersonate}!\\" & strComputer & "\root\cimv2")
    'IE Event code=19 WinXP=4377
Set colLoggedEvents = objWMIService.ExecQuery _
        ("SELECT * FROM Win32_NTLogEvent WHERE Logfile = 'System' AND " _
            & "EventCode = '19' OR EventCode = '4377'")
Dim i As Long
For Each objEvent In colLoggedEvents
    dtmDate = objEvent.TimeWritten
    strReturn = WMIDateStringTodate(dtmDate)

    objDocument.Writeln "<tr>"
    objDocument.Writeln "<td width='20%'>" & objEvent.ComputerName
& "</td>"
    objDocument.Writeln "<td width='50%'>" & objEvent.Message & "</td>"
    objDocument.Writeln "<td width='50%'>" & strReturn & "</td>"
    objDocument.Writeln "</tr>"
    i = i + 1
Next
Debug.Print "no of events=" & i
objDocument.Writeln "</table>"
objDocument.Writeln "</body></html>"
'objDocument.Write()
objDocument.Close
MsgBox "finished"
Set objExplorer = Nothing
Set objDocument = Nothing
Set objWMIService = Nothing
Set colLoggedEvents = Nothing
Set objEvent = Nothing
End Sub
Function WMIDateStringTodate(dtmDate)
'sorts out odd date structure
    WMIDateStringTodate = CDate(Mid(dtmDate, 5, 2) & "/" & _
        Mid(dtmDate, 7, 2) & "/" & Left(dtmDate, 4) _
            & " " & Mid(dtmDate, 9, 2) & ":" & _
                Mid(dtmDate, 11, 2) & ":" & Mid(dtmDate, _
                    13, 2))
End Function


John W. Colby wrote:

>I am proposing a book to a publisher I just finished writing for, which
will
>be about reusable code for Microsoft Access specifically, modules, classes,
>libraries and frameworks.
>
>I was hoping to find a way to make the code accessible to different
>platforms should someone be more comfortable working in Word or Excel.
>While a com object would certainly accomplish this, it involves tools (and
>expertise) outside of the office suite.
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
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>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys
>Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 11:09 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
>Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but ...
>
>(From Q230225)
>COM add-ins are a new feature in Microsoft Office 2000
>and are supported by all Office programs, including Outlook.
>
>Key benefits of COM add-ins include:
>
>COM add-ins run in-process with the host program, so custom code generally
>runs faster than code implemented in Visual Basic for Applications.
>
>The basic COM add-in architecture is consistent across all Office programs,
>whereas in previous versions of Office, each program had its own add-in
>architecture.
>
>You can create one COM add-in to use with more than one Office program.
>
>Example:
>
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/238228
>
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>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:46 PM
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
>
>
>>No, I'm talking about an application framework where the code is
>>available to any Office application.
>>
>>John W. Colby
>>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>
>>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
>>
>>
>Mattys
>
>
>>Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:16 PM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>>
>>
>>John,
>>
>>Are you talking about the designers?
>>
>>I thought you could have a common standard or class module within the
>>dll, and just pass in the Application object as Object. Then just
>>Select Case
>>
>>
>to
>
>
>>perform the appropriate action. I'll look again, but I'm pretty sure
>>
>>
>that's
>
>
>>it.
>>
>>----
>>
>>Michael R. Mattys
>>Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
>>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 8:36 PM
>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Holy cow, is that a mish mash or what?  The point of my questions
>>>was to
>>>
>>>
>>try
>>
>>
>>>to find a common ground where code could be stored and run from all
>>>of the various office applications.  Not to be it would seem.  It
>>>does seem
>>>
>>>
>>bizarre
>>
>>
>>>that if I had some function that should be able to run in any of the
>>>apps
>>>
>>>
>>I
>>
>>
>>>have to save the same thing in 5 different places so that Access,
>>>Excel, Word, Powerpoint and Outlook could use it.
>>>
>>>John W. Colby
>>>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>>
>>>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>>>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
>>>MartyConnelly
>>>Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 2:03 PM
>>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>>>
>>>
>>>In Excel you can store functions and modules as Public in .xla
>>>files. Old Excel pre 97 didn't store the code in xla it looked like
>>>an mde file. Matter of fact you can call these .xla files from
>>>Access. I have called functions from the Excel Statistical and
>>>Financial Analysis Packs.
>>>
>>>In Outlook 2000  and any code that you create in the Outlook VBA
>>>environment is stored in a file named VBAProject.otm. Even though
>>>you can copy the VBAProject.otm file, that's not a good way to
>>>distribute Outlook macros company-wide. The recommended method is to
>>>create an Outlook or Word  COM add-in. Talk to Shamil he has been
>>>upgrading com addins to dotnet. http://www.outlookcode.com/d/vb.htm
>>>http://www.outlookcode.com/d/comaddins.htm
>>>
>>>Word uses templates either user or workgroup (to be shared) in a
>>>specific folder A template  contain macros or other customizations
>>>such as toolbars, it works better from some locations than others.
>>>Again these com addin's can be used in place of macro's. see
>>>http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/index.htm
>>>
>>>Just for future reference this method is also partially available
>>>under word and excel
>>>
>>>Under the Tools/References menu in the VBE, you need to check the
>>>
>>>
>>Microsoft
>>
>>
>>>Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 object library.
>>>Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 C:\Program
>>>Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VBA\VBA6\VBE6EXT.OLB
>>>
>>>
>>>The following code exports the contents of the Code Module to a file
>>>
>>>
>>called
>>
>>
>>>test.bas. This can be run from Word or Excel
>>>
>>>Application.VBE.ActiveVBProject.VBComponents("Module1").Export("test
>>>.b
>>>as")
>>>I think you can also import code this way but never tried it or got it
>>>to work or something.
>>>
>>>John W. Colby wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is
>>>>there an equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of
>>>>Office)?  Do these other platforms have references like we do in
>>>>Access?  If so, can you reference an MDA/E to use code in it?
>>>>
>>>>John W. Colby
>>>>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>>>
>>>>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>>>>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Tue Nov  9 02:23:31 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 09:23:31 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Powerpoint Autoexec?
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B54FE@stekelbes.ithelps.local>


Hehe, long search.

Conclusion, there no such thing as a autoexec in a Powerpoint
presentation.

A workaround is to create a add-in which can contain a Autorun
function...

Erwin

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Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 5:44 AM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Powerpoint Autoexec?

Powerpoint mvps
http://www.mvps.org/links.html#PowerPoint
Here is how to start from Access
http://www.mvps.org/skp/vb/vbppt001.htm
or look through here
http://www.mvps.org/links.html#PowerPoint

Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:

>How can I automaticaly run a VBA sub routine in Powerpoint when the 
>presentation is loaded???
>Like the auotexec macro in Access.
> 
>thx
> 
> 
>
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From pedro at plex.nl  Tue Nov  9 10:03:50 2004
From: pedro at plex.nl (pedro at plex.nl)
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 10:03:50 (MET)
Subject: [AccessD] difficult query??
Message-ID: <200411090903.iA993owv021305@mailhostC.plex.net>

Hello Eric,

it doesn't matter how this is done, as a query expression or in code.
Only i don't have an idea how to do this.

Pedro Janssen


In antwoord op:

> From: "StaRKeY" <starkey at wanadoo.nl>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 23:13:22 +0100
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] difficult query??
> 
> 
> Hi Pedro, 
> 
> Must this be done in SQL/query or are you allowed to use a loop? 
> If you can use a loop I'd use the number field in a nested loop (eg. 1 to
> nr.) to add all records into a new table having the numberfield filled with
> 'X.
> 
> 
> Regards, 
> Eric Starkenburg 
> 
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- 
> Van: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Pedro Janssen 
> Verzonden: maandag 8 november 2004 22:48 
> Aan: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
> Onderwerp: [AccessD] difficult query?? 
> 
> Hello Group, 
> 
> i have a table [tblA] with 20 fields. 
> One of these fields [Number] has a value from 1 to 25. 
> I would like each record with a value in field [number] giving the ammount
> of records of the value of field Number in a new table. And the value of
> field [Number] must change into "X". All other fields must also be present.
> 
> for example 
> 
> i have 
> tblA 
> 
> ID   fieldA  Number etc etc etc 
> 1       A           3 
> 
> 
> i need 
> ID   fieldA  Number etc etc etc 
> 1       A           X 
> 1       A           X 
> 1       A           X 
> 
> Can this been done? 
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Pedro Janssen 
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From pedro at plex.nl  Tue Nov  9 10:04:04 2004
From: pedro at plex.nl (pedro at plex.nl)
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 10:04:04 (MET)
Subject: [AccessD] difficult query??
Message-ID: <200411090904.iA9944lu021323@mailhostC.plex.net>

Hello Eric,

it doesn't matter how this is done, as a query expression or in code.
Only i don't have an idea how to do this.

Pedro Janssen


In antwoord op:

> From: "StaRKeY" <starkey at wanadoo.nl>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 23:13:22 +0100
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] difficult query??
> 
> 
> Hi Pedro, 
> 
> Must this be done in SQL/query or are you allowed to use a loop? 
> If you can use a loop I'd use the number field in a nested loop (eg. 1 to
> nr.) to add all records into a new table having the numberfield filled with
> 'X.
> 
> 
> Regards, 
> Eric Starkenburg 
> 
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- 
> Van: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Pedro Janssen 
> Verzonden: maandag 8 november 2004 22:48 
> Aan: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
> Onderwerp: [AccessD] difficult query?? 
> 
> Hello Group, 
> 
> i have a table [tblA] with 20 fields. 
> One of these fields [Number] has a value from 1 to 25. 
> I would like each record with a value in field [number] giving the ammount
> of records of the value of field Number in a new table. And the value of
> field [Number] must change into "X". All other fields must also be present.
> 
> for example 
> 
> i have 
> tblA 
> 
> ID   fieldA  Number etc etc etc 
> 1       A           3 
> 
> 
> i need 
> ID   fieldA  Number etc etc etc 
> 1       A           X 
> 1       A           X 
> 1       A           X 
> 
> Can this been done? 
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Pedro Janssen 
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov  9 05:02:45 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:02:45 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K, Export to Excel
In-Reply-To: <b874372a041104145114a01aa2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b874372a041104145114a01aa2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6811558249.20041109120245@cactus.dk>

Hi Francisco

Try setting the format property of the field in the query to "Number"
and two decimals. If this doesn't help, you may need to fall back to
use Format() in an expression.

/gustav


> A friend has a query, and is exporting the results to an excel file,
> for some reason the numeric (dollar) values are converted to string in
> excel (the single ' quote problem) it's easy enough to convert excel
> to see it as a numeric but why?

> thanks,
> -- 
> -Francisco



From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov  9 05:06:59 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:06:59 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
In-Reply-To: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F8E@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
References: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F8E@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <14411812815.20041109120659@cactus.dk>

Hi Joe

"Bad" may tend to be too strong. At least no one would call you a "bad
boy" for this merit only. 
How about unnecessary?

/gustav


> Is it bad for to store the actual data, when using text, if they all share
> the same prefix?



From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov  9 05:56:57 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:56:57 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] difficult query??
In-Reply-To: <004a01c4c5dc$9bef3a40$f8c581d5@pedro>
References: <004a01c4c5dc$9bef3a40$f8c581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <17114810796.20041109125657@cactus.dk>

Hi Pedro

> i have a table [tblA] with 20 fields.
> One of these fields [Number] has a value from 1 to 25.
> I would like each record with a value in field [number] giving the ammount of records of the value of field Number in a new table. And the value of field [Number] must change into "X". All other
> fields must also be present.

> for example

> i have
> tblA

> ID   fieldA  Number etc etc etc
> 1       A           3


> i need 
> ID   fieldA  Number etc etc etc
> 1       A           X
> 1       A           X
> 1       A           X

> Can this been done?

Yes. Create a table, tbzMultiply, with one integer field, Factor, and
create records from 1 to 25 or more, say, 100.

Then use:

  SELECT
    tblA.ID,
    tblA.FieldA,
    ...
    tblA.FieldZ,
    "X" AS [Number]
  FROM
    tblA,
    tbzMultiply
  WHERE
    (tbzMultiply.Factor Between 1 And tblA.[Number])
  ORDER BY
    tblA.ID;

Note the missing join. This is a Cartesian (multiplying) query.

/gustav



From Susan.Klos at fldoe.org  Tue Nov  9 07:12:41 2004
From: Susan.Klos at fldoe.org (Klos, Susan)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 08:12:41 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Missing Months in a crosstab query
Message-ID: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE73940@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.int>

I may have asked this before Jim and I am sorry for the repetition.  I have
been gone for a week or so and am just now trying to sort through my emails.
I have printed your reply now and will use it right away to see how it
works. Thanks for your reply and my apologies to all for the duplicate
question. 

Susan Klos
Senior Database Analyst
Evaluation and Reporting
Florida Department of Education
850-245-0708 
sc 205-0708
 

-----Original Message-----
 
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 13:09:23 -0600 
From: "Hale, Jim" <Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Missing months in a crosstab query
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID:
	<6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337203 at corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Didn't you ask about this a couiple of weeks ago? Did you try this?

"Check out p 157 of Getz's ADH. He suggests using the IN clause. EX:
PIVOT column-headings-field [IN(value1[,value2[,...etc]])]"

Jim Hale




From carbonnb at gmail.com  Tue Nov  9 08:45:11 2004
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 09:45:11 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Word Docs Bookmark Check
In-Reply-To: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BD1@starfleet.unknown.local>
References: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BD1@starfleet.unknown.local>
Message-ID: <e04a6c9204110906455d44be3b@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 16:19:43 +1100, ACTEBS <actebs at actebs.com.au> wrote:

> Before I merge I need to check whether all the bookmarks in the doc exist, otherwise the wrong document has been selected for that activity...

Vlad,

I'm not sure how you are correlating your bookmarks with what the user
chooses, but you can use a line like:

doc.Bookmarks.Exists("BookmarkName")

to see if the bookmark exists in the document that you are working
with, assuming of course, that the doc variable references the Word
document that you are working with.

-- 
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Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From actebs at actebs.com.au  Tue Nov  9 09:14:13 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 02:14:13 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Word Docs Bookmark Check
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BD2@starfleet.unknown.local>

Brian,

I wish I had known about the Exists property. 

I figured out a solution where I created a table that housed the names of the bookmarks I was looking for, then I pass the recordset to the function and if it errors out with 5941 I trap it and know the BM is not there. It's quick and dirty, but does the job. The result is the following: (Hopefully it will help someone else)

Function FindBMark(strWordDocPath As String, mRst As DAO.Recordset) As Boolean
On Error GoTo Err_FindBMark
    
    Dim WordObj As Word.Application
    
    FindBMark = True
    gBMark = True
    
     Set WordObj = CreateObject("Word.Application")
    WordObj.Documents.Open strWordDocPath
    
    WordObj.Visible = False

   ' Find the bookmark
   
    mRst.MoveFirst
        Do Until mRst.EOF
            With mRst
                WordObj.ActiveDocument.Bookmarks(!FieldToCheck).Select
            End With
            mRst.MoveNext
        Loop

   ' Close the document.
    WordObj.ActiveDocument.Close

   ' Quit Microsoft Word and clean up 
    WordObj.Quit
    Set WordObj = Nothing
   
Exit_FindBMark:
    Exit Function

Err_FindBMark:
    Select Case Err
        Case 5941
            FindBMark = False
            gBMark = False
            WordObj.ActiveDocument.Close
            WordObj.Quit
            Set WordObj = Nothing
        Case Else
            MsgBox Err.Description
            Resume Exit_FindBMark
    End Select
End Function

Thanks Brian, I'll use your suggestion somewhere else in the app, you've saved me a bit of coding.

Vlad

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Bryan
Carbonnell
Sent: Wednesday, 10 November 2004 1:45 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Word Docs Bookmark Check


On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 16:19:43 +1100, ACTEBS <actebs at actebs.com.au> wrote:

> Before I merge I need to check whether all the bookmarks in the doc exist, otherwise the wrong document has been selected for that activity...

Vlad,

I'm not sure how you are correlating your bookmarks with what the user
chooses, but you can use a line like:

doc.Bookmarks.Exists("BookmarkName")

to see if the bookmark exists in the document that you are working
with, assuming of course, that the doc variable references the Word
document that you are working with.

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Nov  9 09:38:40 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 10:38:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
Message-ID: <20041109153909.LYYS2451.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Is there any way to determine "what" event is triggered when without adding
a lot of very specific Debug.Print statements to each possible event
procedure? 
 
I'm wondering if there isn't some generic property that will define the
calling event procedure? Is there such a critter? 
 
For instance, if a command button's Click event is triggered, is there some
generic way I can print "Click" to the Immediate window? I know I can do
this easily enough by adding a Debug.Print "click" statement myself, but is
there a GENERIC statement that I could add to any event that would define
the calling event? 
 
I hope I'm making myself clear. 
 
Susan H. 


From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Nov  9 09:52:08 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 10:52:08 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF961@DISABILITYINS01>

Not as far as I know.  That would be handy though.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 10:39 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] event identification


Is there any way to determine "what" event is triggered when without adding
a lot of very specific Debug.Print statements to each possible event
procedure? 
 
I'm wondering if there isn't some generic property that will define the
calling event procedure? Is there such a critter? 
 
For instance, if a command button's Click event is triggered, is there some
generic way I can print "Click" to the Immediate window? I know I can do
this easily enough by adding a Debug.Print "click" statement myself, but is
there a GENERIC statement that I could add to any event that would define
the calling event? 
 
I hope I'm making myself clear. 
 
Susan H. 
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Nov  9 09:57:04 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 09:57:04 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Remote Queries
In-Reply-To: <22823002.1099948104142.JavaMail.root@sniper12.usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <000001c4c674$c255ded0$de1811d8@danwaters>

For more information on Remote Queries, you can go to:
http://www.vb123.com/Toolshed/02_accvb/remotequeries.htm

What I've done is to create a function that defines the path to the BE db.
Each remote query uses that function.  So if the path to the BE changes, I
only need to change it in one place.  For multiple BE's you could set up
multiple functions.

Jim - The ADO connection appears, for my purposes, to be equivalent.
However this is an example I will keep!

Dan Waters
ProMation Systems

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
(AccessD)
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 2:52 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remote Queries

Just a note:

There might be a better way to handle access to the remote database. It will
not solve the problem if the database location is changed but it will handle
the security issue.

See:
http://www.able-consulting.com/MDAC/ADO/Connection/OLEDB_Providers.htm#OLEDB
ProviderForMicrosoftJet for ADO connection string

Set variables like:

Dim gstrConnection As String
Dim gconMYRemoteDB As ADODB.Command
Dim strSQL as String
Public rsMyRecordset As ADODB.Recordset

gstrConnection = "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;" & _
                 "Data Source=C:\Databases\Process.mdb;" & _
                 "Jet OLEDB:System Database=MySystem.mdw", _
                 "myUsername", "myPassword"

Set gconMYRemoteDB = New ADODB.Command

With gconMYRemoteDB
 .ActiveConnection = gstrConnection
 .CommandText = "Select * from MyTable Where MyFirstField = 1"
 .CommandType = adCmdText
End With

...or... if you are using a query from the remote DB that has a parameter
you would use something like this...

With gconMYRemoteDB
 .ActiveConnection = gstrConnection
 .CommandText = "qryMyQueryName"
 .CommandType = adCmdStoredProc
 .Parameters.Append .CreateParameter("NameofParameterToFill", adChar,
adParamInput, 10, strParameterValueToPass)
End With

'To fill a recordset
Set rsMyRecordset = New ADODB.Recordset

With rsMyRecordset
 .CursorLocation = adUseClient
 ' Note; dynamic and record locking. Mandatory for multi-user
 ' environments as MDBs are not as sophisticated as SQL servers
 ' and that implies code to manage record data changes or conflicts.
 .Open gconMYRemoteDB, , adOpenDynamic, adLockOptimistic
 If .BOF = False Or .EOF = False Then .MoveLast
End With

...or to simply execute a command...

strSQL = "INSERT INTO MyTable ( MyField1, MyField2 ) " & _
       "VALUES(" & Str(Variable1) & ", '" & Variable2 & "')"

gconMYRemoteDB.Execute strSQL

Set gconMYRemoteDB = Nothing

This way is ideal as you can have as many DBs open as you wish (within
system limits of course), all at once. This also manages the issues of
security. Hopefully that DBs do not wander around to frequently so that
their locations have to be continually managed. (Note that previous was done
from memory with limited reliability.)

HTH
Jim

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DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 7:45 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remote Queries


There are drawbacks.  I don't believe you can specificy a different .mdw or
username/password  with this type of statement.  Also, what if the Backend
is moved?  Instead of having to relink the tables, you'll have to change the
SQL in everything that uses this path.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 7:41 AM
To: Database Advisors
Subject: [AccessD] Remote Queries


Has anyone had experience with what is called a Remote Query?



This is where you write the complete path to a table in the Select statement
for a recordset or a form or report recordsource.



An example:



"SELECT * FROM tblProcessMain" _

            " IN 'C:\Databases\Process.mdb'" _

            " WHERE ProcessStage <> 'Closed'"



Using a remote query means that a Front End doesn't need to link to a Back
End.  It also allows a Front End to be distributed without table links and
queries - thus hiding the location of the Back End.



This is new to me!  What might be the pros/cons/problems with using Remote
Queries?



TIA,

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Nov  9 10:00:06 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 10:00:06 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
In-Reply-To: <26791971.1100015020089.JavaMail.root@sniper12.usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <000101c4c675$2ebeb560$de1811d8@danwaters>

I asked this question once because I wanted to be able to record the
procedure name (automatically) when logging errors.  Mike Gunderloy
responded and said that the MS Access developers tried but were unable to
develop a reliable function to do that.

Rats!

Dan Waters
ProMation Systems

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Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 9:39 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] event identification

Is there any way to determine "what" event is triggered when without adding
a lot of very specific Debug.Print statements to each possible event
procedure? 
 
I'm wondering if there isn't some generic property that will define the
calling event procedure? Is there such a critter? 
 
For instance, if a command button's Click event is triggered, is there some
generic way I can print "Click" to the Immediate window? I know I can do
this easily enough by adding a Debug.Print "click" statement myself, but is
there a GENERIC statement that I could add to any event that would define
the calling event? 
 
I hope I'm making myself clear. 
 
Susan H. 
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Tue Nov  9 10:28:57 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 10:28:57 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Missing Months in a crosstab query
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233720B@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

I didn't intend for my reply to sound harsh, sorry. I was only curious
whether my solution had worked. I hope so.
Regards,
Jim Hale 

-----Original Message-----
From: Klos, Susan [mailto:Susan.Klos at fldoe.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 7:13 AM
To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: [AccessD] Missing Months in a crosstab query


I may have asked this before Jim and I am sorry for the repetition.  I have
been gone for a week or so and am just now trying to sort through my emails.
I have printed your reply now and will use it right away to see how it
works. Thanks for your reply and my apologies to all for the duplicate
question. 

Susan Klos
Senior Database Analyst
Evaluation and Reporting
Florida Department of Education
850-245-0708 
sc 205-0708
 

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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 13:09:23 -0600 
From: "Hale, Jim" <Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Missing months in a crosstab query
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
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Didn't you ask about this a couiple of weeks ago? Did you try this?

"Check out p 157 of Getz's ADH. He suggests using the IN clause. EX:
PIVOT column-headings-field [IN(value1[,value2[,...etc]])]"

Jim Hale


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From chris at piasd.org  Tue Nov  9 10:38:58 2004
From: chris at piasd.org (Chris Kettenbach)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 08:38:58 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Unused numbers?
Message-ID: <2F7BA03C93D17D48B13C42228C8FDAF27856CD@server.domain.local>

I have an autonumber table of like 13000 records.  Does anyone have any sample code to loop through the primary key field and find the numbers that are missing?  Basically reuse old primary keys of deleted records. Maybe it's more trouble than it's worth. Thanks All!!
CK


From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Tue Nov  9 10:45:47 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 11:45:47 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Unused numbers?
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74486A22@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

I think Gustav just posted something last week that should meet your need. Search the archive (or your mail client if you keep these posts around for a while) for "Find holes".

HTH,

Jim DeMarco

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Subject: [AccessD] Unused numbers?


I have an autonumber table of like 13000 records.  Does anyone have any sample code to loop through the primary key field and find the numbers that are missing?  Basically reuse old primary keys of deleted records. Maybe it's more trouble than it's worth. Thanks All!!
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From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Nov  9 11:01:59 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:01:59 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Unused numbers?
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF962@DISABILITYINS01>

>Maybe it's more trouble than it's worth. 

And a bad idea.

Do you use an autonumber?  If so there is no reusing the old numbers.  If
you try you will reset the counter and the next time the autonumber is used
it will collide with values already in the table.

Further they are a long integer capable of handling +/- 4 billion values, so
why worry about it?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Kettenbach [mailto:chris at piasd.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 11:39 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Unused numbers?


I have an autonumber table of like 13000 records.  Does anyone have any
sample code to loop through the primary key field and find the numbers that
are missing?  Basically reuse old primary keys of deleted records. Maybe
it's more trouble than it's worth. Thanks All!!
CK
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Nov  9 11:10:09 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:10:09 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
In-Reply-To: <000101c4c675$2ebeb560$de1811d8@danwaters>
Message-ID: <20041109171009.MXNL8988.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

That's what I thought. Thanks guys!

Susan H. 

I asked this question once because I wanted to be able to record the
procedure name (automatically) when logging errors.  Mike Gunderloy
responded and said that the MS Access developers tried but were unable to
develop a reliable function to do that.




From chris at piasd.org  Tue Nov  9 11:18:57 2004
From: chris at piasd.org (Chris Kettenbach)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 09:18:57 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Unused numbers?
Message-ID: <2F7BA03C93D17D48B13C42228C8FDAF27856D2@server.domain.local>

I think something like this has happened.  Is there anyway to start it over from the largest value.  When users were trying to add new records, it was trying to create duplicate values.  I had to go in and use an SQL INSERT.  I first did a SELECT Max(NumID) then I did an INSERT with 1+that value.  Should the counter begin counting from there now?  I hope that corrected the problem.  Only way I guess is to try adding a new record.  Thanks all.
CK

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 9:02 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unused numbers?


>Maybe it's more trouble than it's worth. 

And a bad idea.

Do you use an autonumber?  If so there is no reusing the old numbers.  If
you try you will reset the counter and the next time the autonumber is used
it will collide with values already in the table.

Further they are a long integer capable of handling +/- 4 billion values, so
why worry about it?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Kettenbach [mailto:chris at piasd.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 11:39 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Unused numbers?


I have an autonumber table of like 13000 records.  Does anyone have any
sample code to loop through the primary key field and find the numbers that
are missing?  Basically reuse old primary keys of deleted records. Maybe
it's more trouble than it's worth. Thanks All!!
CK
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Nov  9 11:21:11 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:21:11 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
In-Reply-To: <20041109171009.MXNL8988.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <20041109172117.OYFV2451.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

BTW, does anyone have a good online resource for an explanation of the
Access event model -- sequence and what's going on behind the scenes? I just
need to check things before I go on record and in my usual search-challenged
way, I can't find anything worth squat. :( 

Susan H. 

That's what I thought. Thanks guys!

Susan H. 




From chris at piasd.org  Tue Nov  9 11:27:19 2004
From: chris at piasd.org (Chris Kettenbach)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 09:27:19 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Unused numbers?
Message-ID: <2F7BA03C93D17D48B13C42228C8FDAF27856D3@server.domain.local>

Yes that seems to have fixed the problem

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Chris
Kettenbach
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 9:19 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unused numbers?


I think something like this has happened.  Is there anyway to start it over from the largest value.  When users were trying to add new records, it was trying to create duplicate values.  I had to go in and use an SQL INSERT.  I first did a SELECT Max(NumID) then I did an INSERT with 1+that value.  Should the counter begin counting from there now?  I hope that corrected the problem.  Only way I guess is to try adding a new record.  Thanks all.
CK

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 9:02 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unused numbers?


>Maybe it's more trouble than it's worth. 

And a bad idea.

Do you use an autonumber?  If so there is no reusing the old numbers.  If
you try you will reset the counter and the next time the autonumber is used
it will collide with values already in the table.

Further they are a long integer capable of handling +/- 4 billion values, so
why worry about it?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Kettenbach [mailto:chris at piasd.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 11:39 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Unused numbers?


I have an autonumber table of like 13000 records.  Does anyone have any
sample code to loop through the primary key field and find the numbers that
are missing?  Basically reuse old primary keys of deleted records. Maybe
it's more trouble than it's worth. Thanks All!!
CK
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From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Nov  9 11:34:15 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:34:15 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Unused numbers?
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF963@DISABILITYINS01>

That is exactly the way to do it.  Max (PK) + 1 inserted back in to the PK
field.  After that the autonumber should pick up at the next value which
will no longer collide.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Kettenbach [mailto:chris at piasd.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:19 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unused numbers?


I think something like this has happened.  Is there anyway to start it over
from the largest value.  When users were trying to add new records, it was
trying to create duplicate values.  I had to go in and use an SQL INSERT.  I
first did a SELECT Max(NumID) then I did an INSERT with 1+that value.
Should the counter begin counting from there now?  I hope that corrected the
problem.  Only way I guess is to try adding a new record.  Thanks all.
CK

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 9:02 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unused numbers?


>Maybe it's more trouble than it's worth. 

And a bad idea.

Do you use an autonumber?  If so there is no reusing the old numbers.  If
you try you will reset the counter and the next time the autonumber is used
it will collide with values already in the table.

Further they are a long integer capable of handling +/- 4 billion values, so
why worry about it?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Kettenbach [mailto:chris at piasd.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 11:39 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Unused numbers?


I have an autonumber table of like 13000 records.  Does anyone have any
sample code to loop through the primary key field and find the numbers that
are missing?  Basically reuse old primary keys of deleted records. Maybe
it's more trouble than it's worth. Thanks All!!
CK
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From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Nov  9 11:46:02 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:46:02 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF964@DISABILITYINS01>

Susan,

I have never found a single place to go, particularly for sequence.  The
order of events can get really strange, particularly if you throw in form /
subform loads, subform enter / exit etc.  In the Access help somewhere there
is a generic order of events for the form events, and the control events,
but it definitely cannot tell the whole story.

As far as what's going on behind the scenes... you don't even want to know.
Now you get into things like mouse clicks where Windows hands the mouse
event to Access which translates it into a form / control event.  Normally
Windows directly hands a mouse event to the window the mouse is inside of -
Window meaning a window object, anything square.  That object has to decide
how to handle the click.  Objects inside of Access are not true windows to
windows, thus the mouse event has to be translated by Access using the
position in the Access window etc.  

Similarly key down/up/press... is it handled by the form or by the control?
What if the control should but doesn't? (it ripples up to the form AFAIK).

Events are a rather deep subject.

I think I have a widget on my site that uses the control classes and form
class to debug.print all the events that fire, in the order fired as you do
anything in the form.  If you want to use it I will need to go look around
and see what it is called.  It was part of the lecture series I think.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


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From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:21 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


BTW, does anyone have a good online resource for an explanation of the
Access event model -- sequence and what's going on behind the scenes? I just
need to check things before I go on record and in my usual search-challenged
way, I can't find anything worth squat. :( 

Susan H. 

That's what I thought. Thanks guys!

Susan H. 


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Nov  9 11:53:17 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 09:53:17 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B5D@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Have you looked in Help?  The sequence of events for the various objects
are there, although you have to hunt for them.  From the UI bring up
Access help and type "Order of events for database objects" in the
answer wizard.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 9:21 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


BTW, does anyone have a good online resource for an explanation of the
Access event model -- sequence and what's going on behind the scenes? I
just need to check things before I go on record and in my usual
search-challenged way, I can't find anything worth squat. :( 

Susan H. 

That's what I thought. Thanks guys!

Susan H. 


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Nov  9 11:55:41 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 09:55:41 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B5E@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Susan,
There's a workaround of sorts.  You can declare a constant in each
routine with the name of the procedure in it and then include that in
the error description.  Um ... It works best if you insert the constant
when you build each of the routines. <g>  Going back later can be a lot
of work.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 9:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


That's what I thought. Thanks guys!

Susan H. 

I asked this question once because I wanted to be able to record the
procedure name (automatically) when logging errors.  Mike Gunderloy
responded and said that the MS Access developers tried but were unable
to develop a reliable function to do that.


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From chris at piasd.org  Tue Nov  9 11:57:27 2004
From: chris at piasd.org (Chris Kettenbach)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 09:57:27 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Unused numbers?
Message-ID: <2F7BA03C93D17D48B13C42228C8FDAF27856D5@server.domain.local>

excellent.  works as anticipated.  thanks

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 9:34 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unused numbers?


That is exactly the way to do it.  Max (PK) + 1 inserted back in to the PK
field.  After that the autonumber should pick up at the next value which
will no longer collide.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Kettenbach [mailto:chris at piasd.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:19 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unused numbers?


I think something like this has happened.  Is there anyway to start it over
from the largest value.  When users were trying to add new records, it was
trying to create duplicate values.  I had to go in and use an SQL INSERT.  I
first did a SELECT Max(NumID) then I did an INSERT with 1+that value.
Should the counter begin counting from there now?  I hope that corrected the
problem.  Only way I guess is to try adding a new record.  Thanks all.
CK

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 9:02 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unused numbers?


>Maybe it's more trouble than it's worth. 

And a bad idea.

Do you use an autonumber?  If so there is no reusing the old numbers.  If
you try you will reset the counter and the next time the autonumber is used
it will collide with values already in the table.

Further they are a long integer capable of handling +/- 4 billion values, so
why worry about it?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Kettenbach [mailto:chris at piasd.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 11:39 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Unused numbers?


I have an autonumber table of like 13000 records.  Does anyone have any
sample code to loop through the primary key field and find the numbers that
are missing?  Basically reuse old primary keys of deleted records. Maybe
it's more trouble than it's worth. Thanks All!!
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From jmoss111 at bellsouth.net  Tue Nov  9 12:01:34 2004
From: jmoss111 at bellsouth.net (jmoss111 at bellsouth.net)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 13:01:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
Message-ID: <20041109180134.ZKOA2398.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net>

You can also find an event logger in ADH, in chapter 2 in the 2000 and 2002 versions.
> 
> From: "Colby, John" <JColby at dispec.com>
> Date: 2004/11/09 Tue PM 12:46:02 EST
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> 	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification
> 
> Susan,
> 
> I have never found a single place to go, particularly for sequence.  The
> order of events can get really strange, particularly if you throw in form /
> subform loads, subform enter / exit etc.  In the Access help somewhere there
> is a generic order of events for the form events, and the control events,
> but it definitely cannot tell the whole story.
> 
> As far as what's going on behind the scenes... you don't even want to know.
> Now you get into things like mouse clicks where Windows hands the mouse
> event to Access which translates it into a form / control event.  Normally
> Windows directly hands a mouse event to the window the mouse is inside of -
> Window meaning a window object, anything square.  That object has to decide
> how to handle the click.  Objects inside of Access are not true windows to
> windows, thus the mouse event has to be translated by Access using the
> position in the Access window etc.  
> 
> Similarly key down/up/press... is it handled by the form or by the control?
> What if the control should but doesn't? (it ripples up to the form AFAIK).
> 
> Events are a rather deep subject.
> 
> I think I have a widget on my site that uses the control classes and form
> class to debug.print all the events that fire, in the order fired as you do
> anything in the form.  If you want to use it I will need to go look around
> and see what it is called.  It was part of the lecture series I think.
> 
> John W. Colby
> The DIS Database Guy
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:21 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification
> 
> 
> BTW, does anyone have a good online resource for an explanation of the
> Access event model -- sequence and what's going on behind the scenes? I just
> need to check things before I go on record and in my usual search-challenged
> way, I can't find anything worth squat. :( 
> 
> Susan H. 
> 
> That's what I thought. Thanks guys!
> 
> Susan H. 
> 
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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Tue Nov  9 13:01:48 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 14:01:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
In-Reply-To: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF964@DISABILITYINS01>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKAEIKKMAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

John,

<<Objects inside of Access are not true windows to
windows, thus the mouse event has to be translated by Access using the
position in the Access window etc. >>

  I don't think that's quite right.  While Access objects are not true
Windows objects, they do get a hwnd when they are active.  I don't think the
mouse clicks are translated based on position.

Jim


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


Susan,

I have never found a single place to go, particularly for sequence.  The
order of events can get really strange, particularly if you throw in form /
subform loads, subform enter / exit etc.  In the Access help somewhere there
is a generic order of events for the form events, and the control events,
but it definitely cannot tell the whole story.

As far as what's going on behind the scenes... you don't even want to know.
Now you get into things like mouse clicks where Windows hands the mouse
event to Access which translates it into a form / control event.  Normally
Windows directly hands a mouse event to the window the mouse is inside of -
Window meaning a window object, anything square.  That object has to decide
how to handle the click.  Objects inside of Access are not true windows to
windows, thus the mouse event has to be translated by Access using the
position in the Access window etc.

Similarly key down/up/press... is it handled by the form or by the control?
What if the control should but doesn't? (it ripples up to the form AFAIK).

Events are a rather deep subject.

I think I have a widget on my site that uses the control classes and form
class to debug.print all the events that fire, in the order fired as you do
anything in the form.  If you want to use it I will need to go look around
and see what it is called.  It was part of the lecture series I think.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:21 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


BTW, does anyone have a good online resource for an explanation of the
Access event model -- sequence and what's going on behind the scenes? I just
need to check things before I go on record and in my usual search-challenged
way, I can't find anything worth squat. :(

Susan H.

That's what I thought. Thanks guys!

Susan H.


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From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Nov  9 13:17:27 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 14:17:27 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF965@DISABILITYINS01>

Everything I've read says a control does NOT have a hwind.  Forms might.
Not exactly my area of expertise however.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 2:02 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


John,

<<Objects inside of Access are not true windows to
windows, thus the mouse event has to be translated by Access using the
position in the Access window etc. >>

  I don't think that's quite right.  While Access objects are not true
Windows objects, they do get a hwnd when they are active.  I don't think the
mouse clicks are translated based on position.

Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


Susan,

I have never found a single place to go, particularly for sequence.  The
order of events can get really strange, particularly if you throw in form /
subform loads, subform enter / exit etc.  In the Access help somewhere there
is a generic order of events for the form events, and the control events,
but it definitely cannot tell the whole story.

As far as what's going on behind the scenes... you don't even want to know.
Now you get into things like mouse clicks where Windows hands the mouse
event to Access which translates it into a form / control event.  Normally
Windows directly hands a mouse event to the window the mouse is inside of -
Window meaning a window object, anything square.  That object has to decide
how to handle the click.  Objects inside of Access are not true windows to
windows, thus the mouse event has to be translated by Access using the
position in the Access window etc.

Similarly key down/up/press... is it handled by the form or by the control?
What if the control should but doesn't? (it ripples up to the form AFAIK).

Events are a rather deep subject.

I think I have a widget on my site that uses the control classes and form
class to debug.print all the events that fire, in the order fired as you do
anything in the form.  If you want to use it I will need to go look around
and see what it is called.  It was part of the lecture series I think.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:21 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


BTW, does anyone have a good online resource for an explanation of the
Access event model -- sequence and what's going on behind the scenes? I just
need to check things before I go on record and in my usual search-challenged
way, I can't find anything worth squat. :(

Susan H.

That's what I thought. Thanks guys!

Susan H.


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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Tue Nov  9 13:53:06 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 13:53:06 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08653F5EA1@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

Access controls reuse a single floating window that can be accessed by
handle when the control receives the focus, using the GetFocus() API
call.  

Access forms are true windows (OForm window class), and have a built-in
hWnd property that is available at all times.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 1:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


Everything I've read says a control does NOT have a hwind.  Forms might.
Not exactly my area of expertise however.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 2:02 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


John,

<<Objects inside of Access are not true windows to
windows, thus the mouse event has to be translated by Access using the
position in the Access window etc. >>

  I don't think that's quite right.  While Access objects are not true
Windows objects, they do get a hwnd when they are active.  I don't think
the
mouse clicks are translated based on position.

Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


Susan,

I have never found a single place to go, particularly for sequence.  The
order of events can get really strange, particularly if you throw in
form /
subform loads, subform enter / exit etc.  In the Access help somewhere
there
is a generic order of events for the form events, and the control
events,
but it definitely cannot tell the whole story.

As far as what's going on behind the scenes... you don't even want to
know.
Now you get into things like mouse clicks where Windows hands the mouse
event to Access which translates it into a form / control event.
Normally
Windows directly hands a mouse event to the window the mouse is inside
of -
Window meaning a window object, anything square.  That object has to
decide
how to handle the click.  Objects inside of Access are not true windows
to
windows, thus the mouse event has to be translated by Access using the
position in the Access window etc.

Similarly key down/up/press... is it handled by the form or by the
control?
What if the control should but doesn't? (it ripples up to the form
AFAIK).

Events are a rather deep subject.

I think I have a widget on my site that uses the control classes and
form
class to debug.print all the events that fire, in the order fired as you
do
anything in the form.  If you want to use it I will need to go look
around
and see what it is called.  It was part of the lecture series I think.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:21 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


BTW, does anyone have a good online resource for an explanation of the
Access event model -- sequence and what's going on behind the scenes? I
just
need to check things before I go on record and in my usual
search-challenged
way, I can't find anything worth squat. :(

Susan H.

That's what I thought. Thanks guys!

Susan H.


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Nov  9 14:30:07 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:30:07 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B61@infoserver01.infostat.local>

You can definitely get the hWnd of a control that has the focus, John.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 11:17 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


Everything I've read says a control does NOT have a hwind.  Forms might.
Not exactly my area of expertise however.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 2:02 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


John,

<<Objects inside of Access are not true windows to
windows, thus the mouse event has to be translated by Access using the
position in the Access window etc. >>

  I don't think that's quite right.  While Access objects are not true
Windows objects, they do get a hwnd when they are active.  I don't think
the mouse clicks are translated based on position.

Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


Susan,

I have never found a single place to go, particularly for sequence.  The
order of events can get really strange, particularly if you throw in
form / subform loads, subform enter / exit etc.  In the Access help
somewhere there is a generic order of events for the form events, and
the control events, but it definitely cannot tell the whole story.

As far as what's going on behind the scenes... you don't even want to
know. Now you get into things like mouse clicks where Windows hands the
mouse event to Access which translates it into a form / control event.
Normally Windows directly hands a mouse event to the window the mouse is
inside of - Window meaning a window object, anything square.  That
object has to decide how to handle the click.  Objects inside of Access
are not true windows to windows, thus the mouse event has to be
translated by Access using the position in the Access window etc.

Similarly key down/up/press... is it handled by the form or by the
control? What if the control should but doesn't? (it ripples up to the
form AFAIK).

Events are a rather deep subject.

I think I have a widget on my site that uses the control classes and
form class to debug.print all the events that fire, in the order fired
as you do anything in the form.  If you want to use it I will need to go
look around and see what it is called.  It was part of the lecture
series I think.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:21 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


BTW, does anyone have a good online resource for an explanation of the
Access event model -- sequence and what's going on behind the scenes? I
just need to check things before I go on record and in my usual
search-challenged way, I can't find anything worth squat. :(

Susan H.

That's what I thought. Thanks guys!

Susan H.


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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Tue Nov  9 15:12:58 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 22:12:58 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K, Export to Excel
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5501@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Aha, yes, know that prob.

Export without formatting and openening excel options. Just straight in
to a file...
Problem solved.
Changing the cell format does not solve this issue.
For me this is a bug that is present since A2K 

Erwin 

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Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K, Export to Excel

Hi Francisco

Try setting the format property of the field in the query to "Number"
and two decimals. If this doesn't help, you may need to fall back to use
Format() in an expression.

/gustav


> A friend has a query, and is exporting the results to an excel file, 
> for some reason the numeric (dollar) values are converted to string in

> excel (the single ' quote problem) it's easy enough to convert excel 
> to see it as a numeric but why?

> thanks,
> --
> -Francisco

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Nov  9 15:24:20 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 15:24:20 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D075@main2.marlow.com>

Not really, that is the hWnd of a generic window, which moves to whatever
control has the focus.  It's not unique to the control.  That is in Access
though.  VB form controls have their own hWnd.  Subforms, however, do have
their own hWnd, so they are the exception to the rule.

Drew

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From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 2:30 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


You can definitely get the hWnd of a control that has the focus, John.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 11:17 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


Everything I've read says a control does NOT have a hwind.  Forms might.
Not exactly my area of expertise however.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 2:02 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


John,

<<Objects inside of Access are not true windows to
windows, thus the mouse event has to be translated by Access using the
position in the Access window etc. >>

  I don't think that's quite right.  While Access objects are not true
Windows objects, they do get a hwnd when they are active.  I don't think
the mouse clicks are translated based on position.

Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


Susan,

I have never found a single place to go, particularly for sequence.  The
order of events can get really strange, particularly if you throw in
form / subform loads, subform enter / exit etc.  In the Access help
somewhere there is a generic order of events for the form events, and
the control events, but it definitely cannot tell the whole story.

As far as what's going on behind the scenes... you don't even want to
know. Now you get into things like mouse clicks where Windows hands the
mouse event to Access which translates it into a form / control event.
Normally Windows directly hands a mouse event to the window the mouse is
inside of - Window meaning a window object, anything square.  That
object has to decide how to handle the click.  Objects inside of Access
are not true windows to windows, thus the mouse event has to be
translated by Access using the position in the Access window etc.

Similarly key down/up/press... is it handled by the form or by the
control? What if the control should but doesn't? (it ripples up to the
form AFAIK).

Events are a rather deep subject.

I think I have a widget on my site that uses the control classes and
form class to debug.print all the events that fire, in the order fired
as you do anything in the form.  If you want to use it I will need to go
look around and see what it is called.  It was part of the lecture
series I think.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:21 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


BTW, does anyone have a good online resource for an explanation of the
Access event model -- sequence and what's going on behind the scenes? I
just need to check things before I go on record and in my usual
search-challenged way, I can't find anything worth squat. :(

Susan H.

That's what I thought. Thanks guys!

Susan H.


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From pedro at plex.nl  Tue Nov  9 14:50:07 2004
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 21:50:07 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] difficult query??
References: <004a01c4c5dc$9bef3a40$f8c581d5@pedro>
	<17114810796.20041109125657@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <006f01c4c6a7$04ba1ac0$f8c581d5@pedro>

Thanks Gustav,

it works perfect.

Pedro Janssen


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Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] difficult query??


> Hi Pedro
>
> > i have a table [tblA] with 20 fields.
> > One of these fields [Number] has a value from 1 to 25.
> > I would like each record with a value in field [number] giving the
ammount of records of the value of field Number in a new table. And the
value of field [Number] must change into "X". All other
> > fields must also be present.
>
> > for example
>
> > i have
> > tblA
>
> > ID   fieldA  Number etc etc etc
> > 1       A           3
>
>
> > i need
> > ID   fieldA  Number etc etc etc
> > 1       A           X
> > 1       A           X
> > 1       A           X
>
> > Can this been done?
>
> Yes. Create a table, tbzMultiply, with one integer field, Factor, and
> create records from 1 to 25 or more, say, 100.
>
> Then use:
>
>   SELECT
>     tblA.ID,
>     tblA.FieldA,
>     ...
>     tblA.FieldZ,
>     "X" AS [Number]
>   FROM
>     tblA,
>     tbzMultiply
>   WHERE
>     (tbzMultiply.Factor Between 1 And tblA.[Number])
>   ORDER BY
>     tblA.ID;
>
> Note the missing join. This is a Cartesian (multiplying) query.
>
> /gustav
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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Tue Nov  9 18:10:12 2004
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 16:10:12 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] A2K, Export to Excel
In-Reply-To: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5501@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
References: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5501@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <b874372a041109161029e5a4be@mail.gmail.com>

arg.  well I've moved on since that but I'm still curious why this
occurs.. it is very frustrating.. :|


On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 22:12:58 +0100, Erwin Craps - IT Helps
<erwin.craps at ithelps.be> wrote:
> Aha, yes, know that prob.
> 
> Export without formatting and openening excel options. Just straight in
> to a file...
> Problem solved.
> Changing the cell format does not solve this issue.
> For me this is a bug that is present since A2K
> 
> Erwin 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:03 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K, Export to Excel
> 
> Hi Francisco
> 
> Try setting the format property of the field in the query to "Number"
> and two decimals. If this doesn't help, you may need to fall back to use
> Format() in an expression.
> 
> /gustav
> 
> > A friend has a query, and is exporting the results to an excel file,
> > for some reason the numeric (dollar) values are converted to string in
> 
> > excel (the single ' quote problem) it's easy enough to convert excel
> > to see it as a numeric but why?
> 
> > thanks,
> > --
> > -Francisco
> 
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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Tue Nov  9 18:14:27 2004
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 16:14:27 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
In-Reply-To: <20041109172117.OYFV2451.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <20041109171009.MXNL8988.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
	<20041109172117.OYFV2451.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <b874372a04110916144563afae@mail.gmail.com>

There is a tool out there called "mztools"  http://www.mztools.com/
that allows you to on a single click add the error handling code you
are seeking (ie, the name of the calling function/sub)  In this way
you will know if it was the After/Before/Current event that triggered
the error.

btw, I noticed that now they support .net, but are now a pay service
:| but at least 3.0 is still free :)


On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:21:11 -0500, Susan Harkins
<ssharkins at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> BTW, does anyone have a good online resource for an explanation of the
> Access event model -- sequence and what's going on behind the scenes? I just
> need to check things before I go on record and in my usual search-challenged
> way, I can't find anything worth squat. :(
> 
> Susan H.
> 
> 
> 
> That's what I thought. Thanks guys!
> 
> Susan H.
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Nov  9 18:45:45 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 16:45:45 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B65@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I use 4.0 in .Net and love it!  It's a bit different from the 3.0
version, which I still use in Access, but it's well worth the minimal
cost, and the author just patched it for a problem I encountered and
reported with find and replace.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 4:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] event identification


There is a tool out there called "mztools"  http://www.mztools.com/ that
allows you to on a single click add the error handling code you are
seeking (ie, the name of the calling function/sub)  In this way you will
know if it was the After/Before/Current event that triggered the error.

btw, I noticed that now they support .net, but are now a pay service :|
but at least 3.0 is still free :)


On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:21:11 -0500, Susan Harkins
<ssharkins at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> BTW, does anyone have a good online resource for an explanation of the

> Access event model -- sequence and what's going on behind the scenes? 
> I just need to check things before I go on record and in my usual 
> search-challenged way, I can't find anything worth squat. :(
> 
> Susan H.
> 
> 
> 
> That's what I thought. Thanks guys!
> 
> Susan H.
> 
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Tue Nov  9 19:54:49 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:54:49 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Adding history cycles of data
Message-ID: <000e01c4c6c8$439fc700$6401a8c0@user>

I need to add a historic reporting cycle to an existing database. The BE currently has around 65 tables.

The FE has around 150 queries, and approx the same no. of forms, with approx 40 reports.

The decision has been made to store some historic data, so on a quarterly basis I need to create 6 new tables of data which will be held permanently in the BE, ie. 6 x 4 quarters = 24 new tables per year.

This system also has a linked mdb called Update.mdb to allow me to rollout updates automatically, as well as a linked web mdb which holds data which gets uploaded to the website.

As I work for myself, before I create this new logic to create 6 new tables per quarter, I wanted to run this by the list - is there any argument for storing these history tables outside the main BE? Is there any advantage to creating 6 large history tables with dates, rather than 6 per quarter? If you were needing to add a historic cycle to a system, would you use the approach I am suggesting? I have worked hard to keep this system running fast and the clients are happy with the speed - so I don't want to slow it down...

(And does anyone have some code to create tables directly into the BE and link them straight back to the initiating FE?)

TIA
Kath

From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Nov  9 21:06:41 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 19:06:41 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Adding history cycles of data
In-Reply-To: <000e01c4c6c8$439fc700$6401a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIGEPPCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Kath:

Just a comment; 6 new tables a quarter? Why? I can see adding some
historical summary data to a special set of tables, to maybe aid in fast
processing for a complex set of calculations but continually generating
table after table seems to be a waste. That is where quering are used.

A number of years ago I took over a site with about ninety forms and I can
not remember how many queries, macros but the list was pretty staggering.
The system is now running on less than twenty non-duplicated forms and the
only thing that increased has been the data and number of reports.

My recommendation is try to keep the application as lean as possible. Think
of the poor programmer that has to manage it all...and it may be you! :-)

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 5:55 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Adding history cycles of data


I need to add a historic reporting cycle to an existing database. The BE
currently has around 65 tables.

The FE has around 150 queries, and approx the same no. of forms, with approx
40 reports.

The decision has been made to store some historic data, so on a quarterly
basis I need to create 6 new tables of data which will be held permanently
in the BE, ie. 6 x 4 quarters = 24 new tables per year.

This system also has a linked mdb called Update.mdb to allow me to rollout
updates automatically, as well as a linked web mdb which holds data which
gets uploaded to the website.

As I work for myself, before I create this new logic to create 6 new tables
per quarter, I wanted to run this by the list - is there any argument for
storing these history tables outside the main BE? Is there any advantage to
creating 6 large history tables with dates, rather than 6 per quarter? If
you were needing to add a historic cycle to a system, would you use the
approach I am suggesting? I have worked hard to keep this system running
fast and the clients are happy with the speed - so I don't want to slow it
down...

(And does anyone have some code to create tables directly into the BE and
link them straight back to the initiating FE?)

TIA
Kath
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Tue Nov  9 21:26:10 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:26:10 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Adding history cycles of data
References: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIGEPPCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <001c01c4c6d5$06745f00$6401a8c0@user>

Jim - the business is in stockbroking.

The main purpose of the system currrently is to provide valuations of portfolios to approx. 300 clients who can each hold up to 19 accounts.

At the moment the system is fairly lean on data storage because it uses a daily refresh principal, ie. each day all stocks, holdings and prices are discarded, and live market data is read in to the system. Queries and reports read the new data to provide up to date valuations.

This process will continue to take place, but every 3 months the client wants to 'freeze' that position and keep it as a position for that quarter. Every quarter a new position will be 'frozen' and a history will be built.

My client requires the historical positions to be editable. The 6 tables will hold details of clients at that point in time, accounts held by them at that time, and all investments held at that time, as well as prices held for those stocks at that time.

For this reason, a summary just won't be enough. I agree that the ongoing maintenance and speed / efficiency has to be uppermost on the design decision.

I would like to keep as few tables as possible - but if I throw all historical data out to one set of 6 history tables is it the most efficient?

Another option is to only hold a table of report cycle id's  in the BE - with a link to an external mdb which holds all the actual data.

I am still thinking it through and look forward to seeing what others think...
Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 2:06 PM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Adding history cycles of data


  Hi Kath:

  Just a comment; 6 new tables a quarter? Why? I can see adding some
  historical summary data to a special set of tables, to maybe aid in fast
  processing for a complex set of calculations but continually generating
  table after table seems to be a waste. That is where quering are used.

  A number of years ago I took over a site with about ninety forms and I can
  not remember how many queries, macros but the list was pretty staggering.
  The system is now running on less than twenty non-duplicated forms and the
  only thing that increased has been the data and number of reports.

  My recommendation is try to keep the application as lean as possible. Think
  of the poor programmer that has to manage it all...and it may be you! :-)

  Jim

  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 5:55 PM
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
  Subject: [AccessD] Adding history cycles of data


  I need to add a historic reporting cycle to an existing database. The BE
  currently has around 65 tables.

  The FE has around 150 queries, and approx the same no. of forms, with approx
  40 reports.

  The decision has been made to store some historic data, so on a quarterly
  basis I need to create 6 new tables of data which will be held permanently
  in the BE, ie. 6 x 4 quarters = 24 new tables per year.

  This system also has a linked mdb called Update.mdb to allow me to rollout
  updates automatically, as well as a linked web mdb which holds data which
  gets uploaded to the website.

  As I work for myself, before I create this new logic to create 6 new tables
  per quarter, I wanted to run this by the list - is there any argument for
  storing these history tables outside the main BE? Is there any advantage to
  creating 6 large history tables with dates, rather than 6 per quarter? If
  you were needing to add a historic cycle to a system, would you use the
  approach I am suggesting? I have worked hard to keep this system running
  fast and the clients are happy with the speed - so I don't want to slow it
  down...

  (And does anyone have some code to create tables directly into the BE and
  link them straight back to the initiating FE?)

  TIA
  Kath
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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Tue Nov  9 21:35:56 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 20:35:56 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Alternating background color in continuous forms?
Message-ID: <157240-220041131033556327@christopherhawkins.com>

Greetings, all!

I want to do something kind of fun.  I am trying to figure out how to
do alternating background colors in a continuous form.  I was looking
at conditional formatting in Access 2002, but am not sure how to work
out an expression that will do the trick.

I am also looking a doing it programmatically, but I think I'd have
to do some heavy subclassing, which isn't worth the work just for eye
candy.

Surely someone must have done this before.  Can anyone either offer
sugestons on how to figure it out, or post actual code?  I'll be sure
to give proper credit when it's time to submit the results to the UI
Hall of Fame.  ;)

-Christopher-
Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Nov  9 22:09:12 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:09:12 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Alternating background color in continuous forms?
In-Reply-To: <157240-220041131033556327@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <41922108.8351.46C490D@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 9 Nov 2004 at 20:35, Christopher Hawkins wrote:

> 
> Surely someone must have done this before.  Can anyone either offer
> sugestons on how to figure it out, or post actual code?  I'll be sure
> to give proper credit when it's time to submit the results to the UI
> Hall of Fame.  ;)
> 

You mean here :-)

http://digilander.libero.it/chiediloapippo/Engineering/iarchitect/color.htm

-- 
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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Tue Nov  9 22:41:06 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 21:41:06 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Alternating background color in continuous forms?
Message-ID: <184670-22004113104416249@christopherhawkins.com>

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA sheddup.  :p

---- Original Message ----
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com, 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Alternating background color in continuous
forms?
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:09:12 +1000

>On 9 Nov 2004 at 20:35, Christopher Hawkins wrote:
>
>> 
>> Surely someone must have done this before.  Can anyone either offer
>> sugestons on how to figure it out, or post actual code?  I'll be 
>sure
>> to give proper credit when it's time to submit the results to the 
>UI
>> Hall of Fame.  ;)
>> 
>
>You mean here :-)
>
>http://digilander.libero.it/chiediloapippo/Engineering/iarchitect/col
>or.htm
>
>-- 
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>
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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Tue Nov  9 23:51:27 2004
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (dmcafee at pacbell.net)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 21:51:27 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Alternating background color in continuous forms?
In-Reply-To: <184670-22004113104416249@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKAEIDEMAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

Access 2000 and later has Conditional formatting

Access 97 and earlier will needed to use a textbox in the background. Check
out Duane Hookem's BRdemo database:
http://www.invisibleinc.com/download.cfm?filFilID=7

HTH
David

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Christopher
Hawkins
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 8:41 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Alternating background color in continuous forms?


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA sheddup.  :p

---- Original Message ----
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com,
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Alternating background color in continuous
forms?
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:09:12 +1000

>On 9 Nov 2004 at 20:35, Christopher Hawkins wrote:
>
>>
>> Surely someone must have done this before.  Can anyone either offer
>> sugestons on how to figure it out, or post actual code?  I'll be
>sure
>> to give proper credit when it's time to submit the results to the
>UI
>> Hall of Fame.  ;)
>>
>
>You mean here :-)
>
>http://digilander.libero.it/chiediloapippo/Engineering/iarchitect/col
>or.htm
>
>--
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>
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From viner at EUnet.yu  Wed Nov 10 03:19:38 2004
From: viner at EUnet.yu (Ervin Brindza)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:19:38 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Where is 1$?
Message-ID: <005701c4c706$777983c0$0100a8c0@razvoj>

Sorry, I couldn't resist:
Three cowboys order a bottle of whisky for 30$ in the saloon. The owner notice the omission and give an order to a barman to return them 5$. He pick 2$ in his pocket, and return 1$ to each cowboy. 3x9+2 = 29 but where is 1$?

From viner at EUnet.yu  Wed Nov 10 03:19:38 2004
From: viner at EUnet.yu (Ervin Brindza)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:19:38 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Where is 1$?
Message-ID: <007201c4c706$a95ea5a0$0100a8c0@razvoj>

Sorry, I couldn't resist:
Three cowboys order a bottle of whisky for 30$ in the saloon. The owner notice the omission and give an order to a barman to return them 5$. He pick 2$ in his pocket, and return 1$ to each cowboy. 3x9+2 = 29 but where is 1$?

From serbach at new.rr.com  Wed Nov 10 05:16:26 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 05:16:26 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] A2K/AXP Repllcation problem
In-Reply-To: <20041107045310.1540446425.serbach@new.rr.com>
References: <20041105132148.1553325418.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<20041107045310.1540446425.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <20041110051626.1518568599.serbach@new.rr.com>

Dear Group,

My synchronization problem turned out to be simply a repair/compact problem. As soon as I repaired the databases on the laptops, I was able to synch them with the main database in my customer's home office.

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI


> ------------Original Message------------
> From: "Steven W. Erbach" <serbach at new.rr.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Date: Sun, Nov-7-2004 5:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K/AXP Repllcation problem
> 
> Well, I found something over on Experts Exchange that may relate to 
> this problem. It's a Microsoft KB article, Q301474. We'll see.
> 
> Steve Erbach
> Neenah, WI
> 




From actebs at actebs.com.au  Wed Nov 10 07:13:11 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 00:13:11 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Treeview -  Again : )
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BD3@starfleet.unknown.local>

Guys,

Arthur's treeview is great, lots of examples on how to use it. The thing I can't figure out is how to select an item within the treeview for the user. For example:

The user wants to edit a record he selects the record he wants to edit and I populate the text fields etc for him, but I can't get the treeview to highlight the activity item it relates to. Basically, I want to expand the treeview and highlight the item in the treeview that corresponds to the selected record.

Things I have tried is:

a)	Tvw.nodes.value = whatever
b)	set tvw.nodes = whatever
c)	tvw.nodes.selecteditem = whatever

Is there another method?

Thanks

Vlad




From kaupca at chevrontexaco.com  Wed Nov 10 07:19:30 2004
From: kaupca at chevrontexaco.com (Kaup, Chester A)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 07:19:30 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Where is 1$?
Message-ID: <1375769556091B4DAABC159F944CA1BB07A2B2@bocnte2k4.hou150.chevrontexaco.net>

The three cowboys were dunk by now and didn't care anyway.
However Cowboy one got $3 back ($2 plus $1) and each of the other 2 got
$1 back. $9 + $9 + $7 +$5 = #30.00. 

Chester Kaup
Information Management Technician
IT-MidContinent/MidContinent Business Unit
CTN 8-687-7415  
Outside 432-687-7415

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number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 




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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Ervin Brindza
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 3:20 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Where is 1$?


Sorry, I couldn't resist:
Three cowboys order a bottle of whisky for 30$ in the saloon. The owner
notice the omission and give an order to a barman to return them 5$. He
pick 2$ in his pocket, and return 1$ to each cowboy. 3x9+2 = 29 but
where is 1$?
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From actebs at actebs.com.au  Wed Nov 10 09:28:12 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 02:28:12 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Wait For Word To Finish Printing
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BD4@starfleet.unknown.local>

Guys,

I have a function that prints out numerous Word documents on the fly which I loop through. The problem is the print job hasn't finished and a dialogue box pops up suggesting that "If you close word now the document print job will be cancelled"

The code is as follows:

    With m_objWord
        .ActiveDocument.SaveAs strWrdPath
        
        If gBoolPrintOrNot = True Then
            .ActiveDocument.PrintOut
            DoEvents
        End If
        
        .ActiveDocument.Close
    End With
    
    m_objWord.Quit
    Set m_objDoc = Nothing
    Set m_objWord = Nothing

It works well other than I have to close after I am finished as I don't want to leave variables in memory. Is there any way to wait until word has finished it's job?

I have tried Dev's "ShellWait" function, but that is more geared to batch files rather than a windows app, and it's not the word document that is the process, it's word that is executing the process....

Any guidance much appreciated...

Vlad




From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Nov 10 09:56:33 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:56:33 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Where is 1$?
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D076@main2.marlow.com>

Actually, it's $25 for the whiskey (which is why they got five back).  $9
for each cowboy, which means they paid $27, and the barman kept a $2 tip, so
27-2=25

Drew

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Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 3:20 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Where is 1$?


Sorry, I couldn't resist:
Three cowboys order a bottle of whisky for 30$ in the saloon. The owner
notice the omission and give an order to a barman to return them 5$. He pick
2$ in his pocket, and return 1$ to each cowboy. 3x9+2 = 29 but where is 1$?
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From JColby at dispec.com  Wed Nov 10 09:48:06 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:48:06 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF969@DISABILITYINS01>

I just downloaded this.  Pretty nice.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 7:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] event identification


There is a tool out there called "mztools"  http://www.mztools.com/
that allows you to on a single click add the error handling code you
are seeking (ie, the name of the calling function/sub)  In this way
you will know if it was the After/Before/Current event that triggered
the error.

btw, I noticed that now they support .net, but are now a pay service
:| but at least 3.0 is still free :)


On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:21:11 -0500, Susan Harkins
<ssharkins at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> BTW, does anyone have a good online resource for an explanation of the
> Access event model -- sequence and what's going on behind the scenes? I
just
> need to check things before I go on record and in my usual
search-challenged
> way, I can't find anything worth squat. :(
> 
> Susan H.
> 
> 
> 
> That's what I thought. Thanks guys!
> 
> Susan H.
> 
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Wed Nov 10 09:12:17 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 16:12:17 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Wait For Word To Finish Printing
Message-ID: <20041110161214.5FF5E256047@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Vlad
I know the problem. What I did, rightly or wrongly, was omit the .Quit but
still set the Word object to Nothing.
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--------- Original Message --------
From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
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To: Access Group E-mail <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] Wait For Word To Finish Printing
Date: 10/11/04 15:58

>
> Guys,
>
> I have a function that prints out numerous Word documents on the fly which
I loop through. The problem is the print job hasn't finished and a dialogue
box pops up suggesting that &quot;If you close word now the document print
job will be cancelled&quot;
>
> The code is as follows:
>
>     With m_objWord
>         .ActiveDocument.SaveAs strWrdPath
>
>         If gBoolPrintOrNot = True Then
>             .ActiveDocument.PrintOut
>             DoEvents
>         End If
>
>         .ActiveDocument.Close
>     End With
>
>     m_objWord.Quit
>     Set m_objDoc = Nothing
>     Set m_objWord = Nothing
>
> It works well other than I have to close after I am finished as I don't
want to leave variables in memory. Is there any way to wait until word has
finished it's job?
>
> I have tried Dev's &quot;ShellWait&quot; function, but that is more geared
to batch files rather than a windows app, and it's not the word document
that is the process, it's word that is executing the process....
>
> Any guidance much appreciated...
>
> Vlad
>
>
> --
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Wed Nov 10 10:17:51 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 11:17:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Wait For Word To Finish Printing
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F3392F@nprdex02.nns.com>

My memory is a little fuzzy on this issue.
Will this work?

m_objWord.Options.PrintBackground = True


Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 10:28 AM
To: Access Group (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Wait For Word To Finish Printing


Guys,

I have a function that prints out numerous Word documents on the fly which I
loop through. The problem is the print job hasn't finished and a dialogue
box pops up suggesting that "If you close word now the document print job
will be cancelled"

The code is as follows:

    With m_objWord
        .ActiveDocument.SaveAs strWrdPath
        
        If gBoolPrintOrNot = True Then
            .ActiveDocument.PrintOut
            DoEvents
        End If
        
        .ActiveDocument.Close
    End With
    
    m_objWord.Quit
    Set m_objDoc = Nothing
    Set m_objWord = Nothing

It works well other than I have to close after I am finished as I don't want
to leave variables in memory. Is there any way to wait until word has
finished it's job?

I have tried Dev's "ShellWait" function, but that is more geared to batch
files rather than a windows app, and it's not the word document that is the
process, it's word that is executing the process....

Any guidance much appreciated...

Vlad


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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Wed Nov 10 10:20:55 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 11:20:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] If Then Else to Function
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C3CE@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

I can not find any references to this on line or in books.  I have tasks
that fall into various buckets for users to process as they move through
an approval process.  The existing database defines these buckets using
if..then..else statements across more forms and reports than I can name.
Moving to the big time, how do I convert a statement show below to a
function?  This example defines if a task is in the AS Final Review
queue.

TaskStatus: IIf([RequestType] Not In ('Field Problem','Site
Audit','Product Audit','Product Audit/Field Problem') And [Section] In
(2,3) And [Status]='Open' And Not IsNull([ASSectCompletedDate]) And
[ysnASTestRequired]=0 And [ysnASQARequired]=0,"In AS Final Review","Not
In AS Final Review")


From dwaters at usinternet.com  Wed Nov 10 10:50:58 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:50:58 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] If Then Else to Function
In-Reply-To: <9452851.1100104133265.JavaMail.root@sniper4.usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <001101c4c745$743074a0$de1811d8@danwaters>

Karen,

With the statement below, you are now in 'Final Review' status, not 'Open'
status.

I do this a lot.  As you go through the process, the record needs to change
status.  For example, a Nonconforming Material record might go through the
following status sequence: Description, Disposition, Approval (or Final
Review), Finish, Closed.  All of these are 'Open' except of course for
Closed.

As people enter more information, your code can change the record status as
needed.  This makes your code easier to use, and your users/managers can
more easily understand where the process is if the status is displayed
on-screen.

For your reports, make a screen that will build a SQL statement based on the
user's criteria.  Then use that SQL statement in the 'Where' argument when
the open the report.  The form can have a combobox for each bucket.  This
gives you one report that can come close to being all things to all people.

HTH,
Dan Waters
ProMation Systems

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 10:21 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] If Then Else to Function

I can not find any references to this on line or in books.  I have tasks
that fall into various buckets for users to process as they move through
an approval process.  The existing database defines these buckets using
if..then..else statements across more forms and reports than I can name.
Moving to the big time, how do I convert a statement show below to a
function?  This example defines if a task is in the AS Final Review
queue.

TaskStatus: IIf([RequestType] Not In ('Field Problem','Site
Audit','Product Audit','Product Audit/Field Problem') And [Section] In
(2,3) And [Status]='Open' And Not IsNull([ASSectCompletedDate]) And
[ysnASTestRequired]=0 And [ysnASQARequired]=0,"In AS Final Review","Not
In AS Final Review")
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Nov 10 11:16:46 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:16:46 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B66@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Which one, John?  They're both nice. <g>

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 7:48 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


I just downloaded this.  Pretty nice.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 7:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] event identification


There is a tool out there called "mztools"  http://www.mztools.com/ that
allows you to on a single click add the error handling code you are
seeking (ie, the name of the calling function/sub)  In this way you will
know if it was the After/Before/Current event that triggered the error.

btw, I noticed that now they support .net, but are now a pay service :|
but at least 3.0 is still free :)


On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:21:11 -0500, Susan Harkins
<ssharkins at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> BTW, does anyone have a good online resource for an explanation of the

> Access event model -- sequence and what's going on behind the scenes? 
> I
just
> need to check things before I go on record and in my usual
search-challenged
> way, I can't find anything worth squat. :(
> 
> Susan H.
> 
> 
> 
> That's what I thought. Thanks guys!
> 
> Susan H.
> 
> --
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From JColby at dispec.com  Wed Nov 10 11:32:41 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:32:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF96A@DISABILITYINS01>

I downloaded the 3.0 for VBA.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 12:17 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


Which one, John?  They're both nice. <g>

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 7:48 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


I just downloaded this.  Pretty nice.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 7:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] event identification


There is a tool out there called "mztools"  http://www.mztools.com/ that
allows you to on a single click add the error handling code you are
seeking (ie, the name of the calling function/sub)  In this way you will
know if it was the After/Before/Current event that triggered the error.

btw, I noticed that now they support .net, but are now a pay service :|
but at least 3.0 is still free :)


On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:21:11 -0500, Susan Harkins
<ssharkins at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> BTW, does anyone have a good online resource for an explanation of the

> Access event model -- sequence and what's going on behind the scenes? 
> I
just
> need to check things before I go on record and in my usual
search-challenged
> way, I can't find anything worth squat. :(
> 
> Susan H.
> 
> 
> 
> That's what I thought. Thanks guys!
> 
> Susan H.
> 
> --
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Nov 10 11:55:10 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:55:10 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B69@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Try the 4.0 too.  You'll love it in .Net.  It drove me crazy not to have
my favorite tools (like the Find/replace and the ability to sort
procedure and close windows) there, so I was ecstatic when they released
4.0 and was quite willing to pay the minimal price for it.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:33 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


I downloaded the 3.0 for VBA.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 12:17 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


Which one, John?  They're both nice. <g>

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 7:48 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


I just downloaded this.  Pretty nice.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 7:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] event identification


There is a tool out there called "mztools"  http://www.mztools.com/ that
allows you to on a single click add the error handling code you are
seeking (ie, the name of the calling function/sub)  In this way you will
know if it was the After/Before/Current event that triggered the error.

btw, I noticed that now they support .net, but are now a pay service :|
but at least 3.0 is still free :)


On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:21:11 -0500, Susan Harkins
<ssharkins at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> BTW, does anyone have a good online resource for an explanation of the

> Access event model -- sequence and what's going on behind the scenes?
> I
just
> need to check things before I go on record and in my usual
search-challenged
> way, I can't find anything worth squat. :(
> 
> Susan H.
> 
> 
> 
> That's what I thought. Thanks guys!
> 
> Susan H.
> 
> --
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 10 12:47:13 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:47:13 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Wait For Word To Finish Printing
References: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BD4@starfleet.unknown.local>
Message-ID: <41926231.2060405@shaw.ca>

Word normally prints in the background, so you might close Word while it 
is still generating the print file.

There are two ways to avoid this
   1.
 Set the Background parameter of the PrintOut method to False, so that 
the next line of code doesn't execute until the print file has been 
spooled to the printer queue.

ActiveDocument.Printout Background:=False
 
2.
 Check the BackgroundPrintingStatus property of Word's Application 
object, and don't close Word until the value reaches zero. To make sure 
that you aren't unnecessarily delaying the printing process by eating 
cycles within the same thread, use a timer that triggers a check every 
few seconds.

Generally, option #1 is safer, because Word can sometimes get a bit 
confused if asked to background print too many documents at once.


ACTEBS wrote:

>Guys,
>
>I have a function that prints out numerous Word documents on the fly which I loop through. The problem is the print job hasn't finished and a dialogue box pops up suggesting that "If you close word now the document print job will be cancelled"
>
>The code is as follows:
>
>    With m_objWord
>        .ActiveDocument.SaveAs strWrdPath
>        
>        If gBoolPrintOrNot = True Then
>            .ActiveDocument.PrintOut
>            DoEvents
>        End If
>        
>        .ActiveDocument.Close
>    End With
>    
>    m_objWord.Quit
>    Set m_objDoc = Nothing
>    Set m_objWord = Nothing
>
>It works well other than I have to close after I am finished as I don't want to leave variables in memory. Is there any way to wait until word has finished it's job?
>
>I have tried Dev's "ShellWait" function, but that is more geared to batch files rather than a windows app, and it's not the word document that is the process, it's word that is executing the process....
>
>Any guidance much appreciated...
>
>Vlad
>
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Wed Nov 10 14:20:04 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 15:20:04 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33936@nprdex02.nns.com>

Group,

I have two tables I would like to join.  Tbl1.Fld1 contains a
variable-length string, Tbl2.Fld2 contains the same variable-length string
concatenated with a variable-length suffix.

Any suggestions on how to proceed?  Is there an elegant solution?


Mark


From Susan.Klos at fldoe.org  Wed Nov 10 14:27:21 2004
From: Susan.Klos at fldoe.org (Klos, Susan)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 15:27:21 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] connecting to a network drive for the back end
Message-ID: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE73950@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.int>

I have a database which has the FE on each machine and the BE on a network
drive that is different from most of the rest of the network.  My boss logs
into the network drive with a different password than she uses for her
regular network login.  In order for her to have access to this drive she
needs to open it and when she gets the new login window put in her password.
The problem is that when she opens the FE it cannot find the "T" drive
because she hasn't gotten access to it yet.  She only goes to the T drive
when necessary to retrieve data.  She does not want to have to take this
extra step.  Sometimes she may have opened the T drive, but most of the time
probably not.  My problem is: How do I call the T drive login window for her
so she can put in the password whenever she opens the FE on her computer?

 

The application is set up such that whenever a user opens the FE on their
machine, the application grabs the network login ID.  I think I could pull
that password but it is different that the T drive password.

 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

850-245-0708 

sc 205-0708

 



From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Wed Nov 10 14:31:59 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 13:31:59 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Color the tab heads in a Tab Control?
Message-ID: <157240-2200411310203159140@christopherhawkins.com>

Yes, it's another eye-candy inquiry. :p

Are the tabs on a tab control color-able?  It looks pretty funky to
make the body of the tab control one color and leave the tabs
themselves battleship gray.

-C-
Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Nov 10 14:59:44 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 15:59:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables
In-Reply-To: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33936@nprdex02.nns.com>
Message-ID: <20041110205944.ECRU2429.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Is the problem the actual join syntax or the fact that there will never be a
match in the two fields? I'm guessing it's the latter, and if that's the
case, you could use a query expression to return just the variable-length
string (minus the suffix), and then join on that field. 

Sorry if I'm not understanding the problem. 

Susan H. 

Group,

I have two tables I would like to join.  Tbl1.Fld1 contains a
variable-length string, Tbl2.Fld2 contains the same variable-length string
concatenated with a variable-length suffix.

Any suggestions on how to proceed?  Is there an elegant solution?


Mark
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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Nov 10 16:58:00 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 17:58:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables
In-Reply-To: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33936@nprdex02.nns.com>
References: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33936@nprdex02.nns.com>
Message-ID: <41929CF8.7070802@rogers.com>

Mitsules, Mark wrote:

>Group,
>
>I have two tables I would like to join.  Tbl1.Fld1 contains a
>variable-length string, Tbl2.Fld2 contains the same variable-length string
>concatenated with a variable-length suffix.
>
>Any suggestions on how to proceed?  Is there an elegant solution?
>
>
>Mark
>  
>
At first blush I would try this:

SELECT * FROM T1 INNER JOIN T2 ON T1.Field1 = Left(T.2.Field1, 
LEN(T1.Field1))

Arthur


From jmhla at earthlink.net  Wed Nov 10 21:10:36 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 19:10:36 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] CheckDate?
In-Reply-To: <20041102101516.73568.qmail@web61109.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000601c4c79c$07f37d80$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

I used to know someone who would only use a calendar control for date input
to insure proper date.

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
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Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 2:15 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] CheckDate?

Hi group,
 
I created a routine that checks if a date is correct. Can anybody review
this one? I think that it's unnecessary complex.
 
TIA
 
Sander
If Not IsNull(txtExportDate) Then
        'Check month part
        If Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) > 12 Then
            'incorrect date!
        Else
            blnDate = True
        End If
        'Check day part
        Select Case Left(txtExportDate, 2)
        Case 31
            If (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 1) Or _
            (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 3) Or _
            (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 5) Or _
            (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 7) Or _
            (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 8) Or _
            (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 10) Or _
            (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 12) Then
                'correct day - month combi
                blnDate = True
            Else
                'incorrect day-month combi
                blnDate = False
            End If
        Case 30
            If (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 4) Or _
            (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 6) Or _
            (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 9) Or _
            (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 11) Then
                'correct day - month combi
                blnDate = True
            Else
                'incorrect day-month combi
                blnDate = False
            End If
        Case 28
            'Check if month is february
            If Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 2 Then
                'correct date
                blnDate = True
            Else
                'incorrectdate
                blnDate = False
            End If
        Case 1 To 27
            'correct day - month combi
            blnDate = True
        Case 29
            'Check if month is february
            If Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 2 Then
                'incorrect date
                blnDate = False
            Else
                'correctdate
                blnDate = True
            End If
        Case Else
            blnDate = False
        End Select
    Else
        'Null date
        Call MsgBox("U heeft geen exporteer datum opgegeven! Deze is
verplicht.", _
                     vbExclamation, "Onjuiste datum")
        txtExportDate.SetFocus
        Exit Sub
    End If
    If Not blnDate Then
        Call MsgBox("De datum die u heeft opgegeven is onjuist! " _
             & vbCrLf & "Vul een datum in met formaat: DD-MM-YYYY" _
             & vbCrLf & "" _
             , vbCritical, "Onjuiste datum")
        txtExportDate.SetFocus
        Exit Sub
    Else
 

			
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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Wed Nov 10 21:15:56 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 19:15:56 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Unused numbers?
In-Reply-To: <2F7BA03C93D17D48B13C42228C8FDAF27856CD@server.domain.local>
Message-ID: <000701c4c79c$c6356470$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

It is more trouble. Rarely if ever do you want to reuse a primary field
value.

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Chris Kettenbach
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 8:39 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Unused numbers?

I have an autonumber table of like 13000 records.  Does anyone have any
sample code to loop through the primary key field and find the numbers that
are missing?  Basically reuse old primary keys of deleted records. Maybe
it's more trouble than it's worth. Thanks All!!
CK
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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Wed Nov 10 21:18:59 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 19:18:59 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Missing months in a cross tab query
In-Reply-To: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE7393C@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.int>
Message-ID: <000801c4c79d$32e30c30$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

Susan,

I would have to find my sample but there is a way to force to hard code the
12 months in order for your cross tab.

E mail me off list if you need me to find my sample for you.

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Klos, Susan
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 7:39 AM
To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: [AccessD] Missing months in a crosstab query

I have the following crosstab query which I am using to bind to a report:

TRANSFORM Sum(tlnklodgingEvent.Guests) AS [Number]

SELECT IIf([weekend]=True,"Cabin occupancy/Weekend","Cabin
occupancy/Midweek") AS Type, "Cabin" AS Category

FROM tblEvent INNER JOIN tlnklodgingEvent ON tblEvent.InvoiceNo =
tlnklodgingEvent.EventID

WHERE (((tlnklodgingEvent.LodgingID)=5 Or (tlnklodgingEvent.LodgingID)=7 Or
(tlnklodgingEvent.LodgingID)=27 Or (tlnklodgingEvent.LodgingID)=30))

GROUP BY IIf([weekend]=True,"Cabin occupancy/Weekend","Cabin
occupancy/Midweek"), "Cabin"

PIVOT Month(tblEvent.Beginningdate);

 

I want to have the report show all months even though there may be no data
for a particular month.  In the above query, I get data for January through
June and September through December.  Nobody stayed in cabins during July
and August.  So in the report I want to show zeroes in those columns.  I
tried using text boxes and IIF statements to test for null but I knew that
wouldn't work because month numbers 7 and 8 aren't null they just don't
exist in the query.  I tried looking in help to see if there was an "if
exists" function to see if I could see if the field exists in the query.  I
couldn't find anything like that.  Should I be working at the query level
instead to have the query insert a zero if there are months missing?  If so
I will need help on that also.  Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

850-245-0708 

sc 205-0708

 

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From actebs at actebs.com.au  Thu Nov 11 00:18:40 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 17:18:40 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Wait For Word To Finish Printing
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD5055833280886C1@starfleet.unknown.local>

Marty,

Thanks. It fixed my problem. I love this list!

Vlad

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2004 5:47 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Wait For Word To Finish Printing


Word normally prints in the background, so you might close Word while it 
is still generating the print file.

There are two ways to avoid this
   1.
 Set the Background parameter of the PrintOut method to False, so that 
the next line of code doesn't execute until the print file has been 
spooled to the printer queue.

ActiveDocument.Printout Background:=False
 
2.
 Check the BackgroundPrintingStatus property of Word's Application 
object, and don't close Word until the value reaches zero. To make sure 
that you aren't unnecessarily delaying the printing process by eating 
cycles within the same thread, use a timer that triggers a check every 
few seconds.

Generally, option #1 is safer, because Word can sometimes get a bit 
confused if asked to background print too many documents at once.


ACTEBS wrote:

>Guys,
>
>I have a function that prints out numerous Word documents on the fly which I loop through. The problem is the print job hasn't finished and a dialogue box pops up suggesting that "If you close word now the document print job will be cancelled"
>
>The code is as follows:
>
>    With m_objWord
>        .ActiveDocument.SaveAs strWrdPath
>        
>        If gBoolPrintOrNot = True Then
>            .ActiveDocument.PrintOut
>            DoEvents
>        End If
>        
>        .ActiveDocument.Close
>    End With
>    
>    m_objWord.Quit
>    Set m_objDoc = Nothing
>    Set m_objWord = Nothing
>
>It works well other than I have to close after I am finished as I don't want to leave variables in memory. Is there any way to wait until word has finished it's job?
>
>I have tried Dev's "ShellWait" function, but that is more geared to batch files rather than a windows app, and it's not the word document that is the process, it's word that is executing the process....
>
>Any guidance much appreciated...
>
>Vlad
>
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



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From william.thompson1 at att.net  Thu Nov 11 00:27:56 2004
From: william.thompson1 at att.net (William Thompson)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 22:27:56 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] server? based trusted connection for multi-front-ends.
	Acc 200x SQL Server 2000 ; OLEDB.10.0
In-Reply-To: <000801c4c79d$32e30c30$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <200411110627.iAB6RoL19458@databaseadvisors.com>

Note that the trusted connection string below does not specify a database,
initially.

Using authentication on SQL Server, I was itching to get to the bottom of
how to query trusted connection (into or from an ADP) from Access to a
secure stored procedure running in a secure SQL Svr database - the
connection would be established to the server, while the Exec connects via
permissions within the sproc to the database (the db would be 'locked
down').

I'm not sure if this is the sole domain of Excel 2000+ pivot tables, or if a
similarly robust and secure connection can be obtained from Access.  The
premise is that a Pivot table is run over data that is refreshed frequently
- a copy of the raw data is needed behind the scenes to ensure it's
captured.

I was wanting to eventually get a server based query using 
Provider=Microsoft.Access.OLEDB.10.0;
Data Provider=SQLOLEDB.1

... somehow instead of the ODBC based connection utlized in the Fabrikami
sample on MSDN:

reportQuery = "EXECUTE Finance..xlExpenseReport"
reportConnection = "ODBC;DRIVER=SQL
Server;SERVER=FABRIKAM1;Trusted_Connection=Yes"

After having initially explored loading what would apparently be a secure
stored procedure (i.e. suser_sname() having exec, select on sproc) at
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/fabrikam/ht
ml/odc_ofexpense_report_solution_excel2003template.asp 

...and using various Excel examples, particularly...

http://www.excelkb.com/article.aspx?id=10132
and its companion article at http://www.excelkb.com/article.aspx?id=10131

... and at
http://vyaskn.tripod.com/row_level_security_in_sql_server_databases.htm

I didn't get as far as I wanted to with the code, but I managed to hammer
out the Excel based code below - including the sproc - it should work for
the benefit of anyone having SQL server and Excel or Access wanting to
document schema quickly.  Any ideas on how to 'mirror' recordsets i.e.
connect a pivot table, then Access for raw underlying data via two
connections with the same exec string would be greatly appreciated.  The web
examples as cited above instruct on how to set up row level permissions
quickly (which I think/hope is the purpose of the painstaking focus on
trusted connections here and in Access).

Private Sub CommencePivot1()
''' Using trusted connection in front-end
    Dim startDate As String
    Dim endDate As String
    Dim currencyCode As String
    Dim pivotTableName As String
    Dim invalidDateErrorText As String
    Dim startDateErrorText As String
    Dim reportQuery As String
    Dim reportConnection As String
    Dim formatCast As String

    Application.ScreenUpdating = False

    'Data input validation
    SelectASheet ("Sheet1")
    pivotTableName = "PivotTable1"
    
    'Initialize variables
    strDatabase = CStr(Trim(InputBox("Enter Database Name to display
Schema", "Query Macro", "Test Source")))
    reportQuery = "EXECUTE pubs..pr_tmpSchema '" + strDatabase + "'"
    reportConnection = "ODBC;DRIVER=SQL
Server;SERVER=myServer;Trusted_Connection=Yes"

    On Error GoTo ErrorHandler

    With ActiveSheet.PivotTables(pivotTableName)
        .PivotCache.Connection = reportConnection
        ''  Careful not to mash this together with another Pivot table.
'' Keep ado and odbc separate (at least in Excel)
        .PivotCache.CommandText = reportQuery
        .PivotCache.Refresh
    End With

    'Save input parameters to spreadsheet
    ActiveSheet.Range("F2").Value = strDatabase
    ActiveSheet.Range("F3").Value = "Tap Pivot Source"
    
    SelectASheet("QTable")
    ''' would branch another connection rendering the same rst to
    ''' preferably Access if secure or 2nd front-end
    ''' ?? CreateQueryTable(reportquery)
    Application.ScreenUpdating = True

exithere:
    Exit Sub
    
ErrorHandler:
    MsgBox Err.Number & " - " & Err.Description
    Resume exithere
   
End Sub
Public Sub SelectASheet(ByVal strSheetName As String)
    Sheets(strSheetName).Select
exithere:
    Exit Sub
errhandler:
    MsgBox Err.Description & " " & "You may want to create or synchronize"
    Resume exithere
    
End Sub

'' -- The Stored Proc follows - may come in handy for documentation
'' -- Exec pr_tmpSchema NameOfDatabase //you want documented.
'' -- Simulates more or less restricted access
CREATE PROC pr_tmpSchema 
@strDatabaseName varchar(75)
As
Declare @SQL varchar(8000)
Declare @CleanupSQL varchar(8000)
Declare @tablename nvarchar(75)

IF @@ERROR <> 0 PRINT "ERROR IN DECLARATION"
-- I didn't have time to pull this @tablename 
-- structure out - it does nothing here
Select  @tablename = 'tmpTemp1'
Select @CleanupSQL = ('IF EXISTS (SELECT name FROM sysobjects ' + 
    ' WHERE name = ''' + @tablename + ''' AND type = ''U'') ' +
      'DROP TABLE ' + @tablename)
EXEC (@CleanupSQL)
IF EXISTS (SELECT name FROM sysobjects 
    WHERE name = 'tmpTemp1' AND type = 'U')
     EXEC ('DROP TABLE ' + @tablename)
-- SELECT @strGetDBSQL = 'USE ' + @DBName + ' GO'
  SET NOCOUNT ON
  BEGIN
  SELECT @SQL = ('USE ' +  @strDatabaseName + ' Select TABLE_CATALOG =
Left(TABLE_CATALOG, 75),' +
   ' TABLE_SCHEMA = Left(TABLE_SCHEMA, 30), TABLE_NAME = Left(TABLE_NAME,
75),' +
   'COLUMN_NAME = Left(COLUMN_NAME, 75),DATA_TYPE = Left(DATA_TYPE, 30),
CHARACTER_MAXIMUM_LENGTH  = Left(CHARACTER_MAXIMUM_LENGTH, 30),' +
   'IS_NULLABLE = Left(IS_NULLABLE, 10), COLUMN_DEFAULT =
LEFT(COLUMN_DEFAULT, 255)' + 
   'From Information_Schema.columns ' +  
   'Where Table_Name like ''%''' +
   ' And Table_Name in (Select Table_Name from Information_Schema.Tables
WHERE TABLE_TYPE = ''BASE TABLE'')' +
   ' And Table_Name not like ''dt%''') 
-- --------------
-- print 'Test4:'
-- SELECT @SQL
-- --------------
-- ran out of time to explore COLUMN_DEFAULT)
-- --------------
   EXEC(@SQL)
   END

* * *
Bill Thompson,
Washington State, U.S.



From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov 11 04:22:36 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 11:22:36 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] connecting to a network drive for the back end
In-Reply-To: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE73950@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.int>
References: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE73950@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.int>
Message-ID: <1628525408.20041111112236@cactus.dk>

Hi Susan

You can run a Shell command like:

  net use T: \\server\share password /user:username

/gustav


> I have a database which has the FE on each machine and the BE on a network
> drive that is different from most of the rest of the network.  My boss logs
> into the network drive with a different password than she uses for her
> regular network login.  In order for her to have access to this drive she
> needs to open it and when she gets the new login window put in her password.
> The problem is that when she opens the FE it cannot find the "T" drive
> because she hasn't gotten access to it yet.  She only goes to the T drive
> when necessary to retrieve data.  She does not want to have to take this
> extra step.  Sometimes she may have opened the T drive, but most of the time
> probably not.  My problem is: How do I call the T drive login window for her
> so she can put in the password whenever she opens the FE on her computer?

> The application is set up such that whenever a user opens the FE on their
> machine, the application grabs the network login ID.  I think I could pull
> that password but it is different that the T drive password.



From Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk  Thu Nov 11 04:50:05 2004
From: Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk (Paul Rodgers)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 10:50:05 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access with a MySQL database
Message-ID: <EAF3070ACB1AD81182280002A51EF731192345@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>

Hi Arthur

I'd be very much obliged if you could let us/me know  when your words on
MsSql are published on a website.

Thanks very much for the info here which is most useful. 

Cheers

paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com]
Sent: 28 October 2004 02:54
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access with a MySQL database


MartyConnelly wrote:

> Something I came across from an ASP perspective
> http://www.aspfree.com/c/a/Microsoft-Access/An-Access-Front-End-to-MySQL/
>
> Barbara Ryan wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have any experience using an Access application as a 
>> front-end to a MySQL database back-end?  My client is interested in 
>> converting the Access back-end to either SQL Server or MySQL.  They 
>> currently do not own SQL Server but are using MySQL in their web 
>> application.
>>
>> Any thoughts (advantages, limitations, etc.)?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Barb Ryan
>>  
>>
>
Hmph. I thought I answered this already, but it must have been a senior 
moment. I have been there and done that extensively, for the book (that 
was cancelled, and will soon re-emerge as a web site) my partner Peter 
Brawley and I wrote about MySQL.
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From Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk  Thu Nov 11 05:05:56 2004
From: Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk (Paul Rodgers)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 11:05:56 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Function No Go
Message-ID: <EAF3070ACB1AD81182280002A51EF731192346@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>

A new machine comes my way, and beautiful as it is, it is too haughty for
Functions. 'Functon is not available in expressions in query expression ...
' and then quotes the simplest function I've been using for ages. Is there a
Preference or some sort to encourage it to think differently, please.
Access2K. Cheers
paul 



From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov 11 05:07:07 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 12:07:07 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables
In-Reply-To: <41929CF8.7070802@rogers.com>
References: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33936@nprdex02.nns.com>
	<41929CF8.7070802@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <4311196319.20041111120707@cactus.dk>

Hi Mark and Arthur

That may work but you'll be in trouble when trying to switch to design
view.
I would create a query for Tbl2 with a field with the expression
needed to match the Tbl1.Fld1. Then use this query for Tbl1 whenever
you need to join Tbl1 and Tbl2.

/gustav


>>I have two tables I would like to join.  Tbl1.Fld1 contains a
>>variable-length string, Tbl2.Fld2 contains the same variable-length string
>>concatenated with a variable-length suffix.
>>
>>Any suggestions on how to proceed?  Is there an elegant solution?
>>
>>Mark

> At first blush I would try this:
>
> SELECT * FROM T1 INNER JOIN T2 ON T1.Field1 = Left(T.2.Field1, 
> LEN(T1.Field1))

> Arthur



From jmhla at earthlink.net  Thu Nov 11 07:00:45 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 05:00:45 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Function No Go
In-Reply-To: <EAF3070ACB1AD81182280002A51EF731192346@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <200411111300.iABD0mL10482@databaseadvisors.com>

Are you missing library references not being loaded into the new machine?

Joe Hecht
jmhla at earthlink.net
28g
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Paul Rodgers
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 3:06 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Function No Go

A new machine comes my way, and beautiful as it is, it is too haughty for
Functions. 'Functon is not available in expressions in query expression ...
' and then quotes the simplest function I've been using for ages. Is there a
Preference or some sort to encourage it to think differently, please.
Access2K. Cheers
paul 

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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Nov 11 07:13:28 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 08:13:28 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Function No Go
In-Reply-To: <EAF3070ACB1AD81182280002A51EF731192346@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKCEOIKMAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

As Joe said, it's references.

 Open a module in design view, click tools/references.  Look for any listed
as MISSING or BROKEN.  If they are, you'll need to figure out why.  If none
are, check any unchecked reference, close the MDB and Access, re-open and
uncheck the reference just checked.  Then try a compile.

  If still no go then a lib needs to be re-registered with regsvr32 (usually
it's DAO).

Jim Dettman


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Paul Rodgers
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 6:06 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Function No Go


A new machine comes my way, and beautiful as it is, it is too haughty for
Functions. 'Functon is not available in expressions in query expression ...
' and then quotes the simplest function I've been using for ages. Is there a
Preference or some sort to encourage it to think differently, please.
Access2K. Cheers
paul

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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Nov 11 07:35:09 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 08:35:09 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33939@nprdex02.nns.com>

Thank you all for the comments.

That is exactly what I ended up doing.  But since I lack the SQL "guru"
certification ;) I thought I'd put the question out there.  I was thinking
back to a thread a long while back regarding a method that creates a sort of
temporary table within one query...or something along those lines.  I didn't
know if/how that method might apply to my situation.

Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 6:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


Hi Mark and Arthur

That may work but you'll be in trouble when trying to switch to design
view.
I would create a query for Tbl2 with a field with the expression
needed to match the Tbl1.Fld1. Then use this query for Tbl1 whenever
you need to join Tbl1 and Tbl2.

/gustav


>>I have two tables I would like to join.  Tbl1.Fld1 contains a
>>variable-length string, Tbl2.Fld2 contains the same variable-length string
>>concatenated with a variable-length suffix.
>>
>>Any suggestions on how to proceed?  Is there an elegant solution?
>>
>>Mark

> At first blush I would try this:
>
> SELECT * FROM T1 INNER JOIN T2 ON T1.Field1 = Left(T.2.Field1, 
> LEN(T1.Field1))

> Arthur

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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Thu Nov 11 08:23:06 2004
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:23:06 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] CheckDate?
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A278D@xlivmbx21.aig.com>


I'm one of those odd people who always use a calendar form (not the MS
Active-X control) for date entering, but if you really must allow those
whacko users to type a date in a box then what's wrong with this code...

Dim bIsValideDate As Boolean
	bIsValideDate =isDate(txtYourFormControl)
	If bIsValideDate  Then
		...
	Else
		MsgBox "Can you at least type a valid date in the box!
	End If

Is that sufficiently uncomplex :-)

"isDate()" is a built in function.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
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> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
> Sent:	Wednesday, November 10, 2004 10:11 PM
> To:	'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject:	RE: [AccessD] CheckDate?
> 
> I used to know someone who would only use a calendar control for date
> input
> to insure proper date.
> 
> JOE HECHT
> LOS ANGELES CA 
>  jmhla at earthlink.net
> 
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> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of S D
> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 2:15 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] CheckDate?
> 
> Hi group,
>  
> I created a routine that checks if a date is correct. Can anybody review
> this one? I think that it's unnecessary complex.
>  
> TIA
>  
> Sander
> If Not IsNull(txtExportDate) Then
>         'Check month part
>         If Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) > 12 Then
>             'incorrect date!
>         Else
>             blnDate = True
>         End If
>         'Check day part
>         Select Case Left(txtExportDate, 2)
>         Case 31
>             If (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 1) Or _
>             (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 3) Or _
>             (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 5) Or _
>             (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 7) Or _
>             (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 8) Or _
>             (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 10) Or _
>             (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 12) Then
>                 'correct day - month combi
>                 blnDate = True
>             Else
>                 'incorrect day-month combi
>                 blnDate = False
>             End If
>         Case 30
>             If (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 4) Or _
>             (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 6) Or _
>             (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 9) Or _
>             (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 11) Then
>                 'correct day - month combi
>                 blnDate = True
>             Else
>                 'incorrect day-month combi
>                 blnDate = False
>             End If
>         Case 28
>             'Check if month is february
>             If Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 2 Then
>                 'correct date
>                 blnDate = True
>             Else
>                 'incorrectdate
>                 blnDate = False
>             End If
>         Case 1 To 27
>             'correct day - month combi
>             blnDate = True
>         Case 29
>             'Check if month is february
>             If Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 2 Then
>                 'incorrect date
>                 blnDate = False
>             Else
>                 'correctdate
>                 blnDate = True
>             End If
>         Case Else
>             blnDate = False
>         End Select
>     Else
>         'Null date
>         Call MsgBox("U heeft geen exporteer datum opgegeven! Deze is
> verplicht.", _
>                      vbExclamation, "Onjuiste datum")
>         txtExportDate.SetFocus
>         Exit Sub
>     End If
>     If Not blnDate Then
>         Call MsgBox("De datum die u heeft opgegeven is onjuist! " _
>              & vbCrLf & "Vul een datum in met formaat: DD-MM-YYYY" _
>              & vbCrLf & "" _
>              , vbCritical, "Onjuiste datum")
>         txtExportDate.SetFocus
>         Exit Sub
>     Else
>  
> 
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov 11 09:05:40 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 16:05:40 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] SQLiteDB, tiny engine
Message-ID: <16625509500.20041111160540@cactus.dk>

Hi all

For those of you looking for an alternative SQL server engine which
will run on both Linux and Windows, have a look here for an Open
Source completely free *tiny_tiny* basic engine:

  http://www.terrainformatica.com/users/george/index.html

Note that you will have to manually register the dll.

<quote>

SQLiteDB is a full database engine in a ~330Kb DLL built as an ATL
COM wrapper over sqlite. And it is *fast* ..."

SQLiteDB's object model is similar to ADO, featuring both a
Connection and Recordset object. There are, however, differences
between the libraries:  

 - SQLiteDB does not include a Fields Collection; the main reason for
this is simplicity and speed. 

 - ADO is only a library to connect to other database engines, SQLiteDB
is both the database engine and the library to connect to it. 

</quote>

SQLite (mostly for C++ people) is here:

  http://www.sqlite.org


/gustav



From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Nov 11 09:39:59 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 10:39:59 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F3393F@nprdex02.nns.com>

Group,

Someone has this at the top of their head or near their
fingertips...hopefully.  In a query, what is the syntax to add a running
recordcount column?  Thanks.


Mark


From DElam at jenkens.com  Thu Nov 11 09:49:08 2004
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:49:08 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Import from .prn File
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C02485711@natexch.jenkens.com>

I am trying to import some data from a .prn file.  When I open the file in
notepad it gives me gibberish, so I assume I will need to open it or convert
it with specific software.  I found a trial version of ABC Amber CSV
converter.  It claims to be able to convert a .prn to an Excel spreadsheet.
The trial version only imports 10 records, and they look just like the
gibberish in notepad, just put into columns.  I am a little reluctant to
spring even for $14.95  given the trial performance, but I have not found
anything else to allow me to read this file properly.

Does anyone have suggestions about how to import this file into Access?

Debbie
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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Nov 11 10:08:10 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 11:08:10 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Import from .prn File
In-Reply-To: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C02485711@natexch.jenkens.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKKEPEKMAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Debbie,

<<Does anyone have suggestions about how to import this file into Access?>>

  Not to be flippant, but don't<g>.

  The contents of a .prn file are dependant on the printer driver used to
create it.  If you have no control over that, then  the contents and
encoding of that file could/will be different from one file to the next.

  If you do have control over the file creation, use the Generic Text Only
driver to produce it.  You should be able to use the Access Import Wizard at
that point or use VB code to read it in line by line.

Jim Dettman


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Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:49 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Import from .prn File


I am trying to import some data from a .prn file.  When I open the file in
notepad it gives me gibberish, so I assume I will need to open it or convert
it with specific software.  I found a trial version of ABC Amber CSV
converter.  It claims to be able to convert a .prn to an Excel spreadsheet.
The trial version only imports 10 records, and they look just like the
gibberish in notepad, just put into columns.  I am a little reluctant to
spring even for $14.95  given the trial performance, but I have not found
anything else to allow me to read this file properly.

Does anyone have suggestions about how to import this file into Access?

Debbie
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Nov 11 10:09:58 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 02:09:58 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Import from .prn File
In-Reply-To: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C02485711@natexch.jenkens.com>
Message-ID: <41941B76.29714.70C62D@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 11 Nov 2004 at 9:49, Elam, Debbie wrote:

> I am trying to import some data from a .prn file.  When I open the file in
> notepad it gives me gibberish, so I assume I will need to open it or convert
> it with specific software.  I found a trial version of ABC Amber CSV
> converter.  It claims to be able to convert a .prn to an Excel spreadsheet.
> The trial version only imports 10 records, and they look just like the
> gibberish in notepad, just put into columns.  I am a little reluctant to
> spring even for $14.95  given the trial performance, but I have not found
> anything else to allow me to read this file properly.
> 
> Does anyone have suggestions about how to import this file into Access?
> 

If you have generated the .prn file by directing the output of a printer to 
file, you are probably putting out a graphic data dump not text so you will 
not be able to import it with ABC Amberm or amny other smilar tool

Recreate the file. This time use the "Generic/Text only" printer driver 
instead of the one you are currently using.




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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Nov 11 10:11:07 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 11:11:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field
In-Reply-To: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F3393F@nprdex02.nns.com>
Message-ID: <005901c4c809$11591c50$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Count(PK) as Cnt in the select clause

Where PK is the primary key

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:40 AM
To: [AccessD]
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


Group,

Someone has this at the top of their head or near their
fingertips...hopefully.  In a query, what is the syntax to add a running
recordcount column?  Thanks.


Mark
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From DElam at jenkens.com  Thu Nov 11 10:25:00 2004
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 10:25:00 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Import from .prn File
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C02485715@natexch.jenkens.com>

Thanks, I will see if I can use a more generic printer driver to get the
file.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Import from .prn File


Debbie,

<<Does anyone have suggestions about how to import this file into Access?>>

  Not to be flippant, but don't<g>.

  The contents of a .prn file are dependant on the printer driver used to
create it.  If you have no control over that, then  the contents and
encoding of that file could/will be different from one file to the next.

  If you do have control over the file creation, use the Generic Text Only
driver to produce it.  You should be able to use the Access Import Wizard at
that point or use VB code to read it in line by line.

Jim Dettman


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:49 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Import from .prn File


I am trying to import some data from a .prn file.  When I open the file in
notepad it gives me gibberish, so I assume I will need to open it or convert
it with specific software.  I found a trial version of ABC Amber CSV
converter.  It claims to be able to convert a .prn to an Excel spreadsheet.
The trial version only imports 10 records, and they look just like the
gibberish in notepad, just put into columns.  I am a little reluctant to
spring even for $14.95  given the trial performance, but I have not found
anything else to allow me to read this file properly.

Does anyone have suggestions about how to import this file into Access?

Debbie
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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Nov 11 10:35:08 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 11:35:08 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field
In-Reply-To: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F3393F@nprdex02.nns.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKGEPHKMAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Mark,

  I think your saying you want the records numbered?

  I use a custom function:

Global glngGetLineCounter As Long

Function GetLineCounter(varName As Variant) As Long

  glngGetLineCounter = glngGetLineCounter + 1
  GetLineCounter = glngGetLineCounter

End Function

  Which I call from the query

LineNo:GetLineCounter(<somefieldname>)


  If you need this in a form or report though, add a control with a running
sum defaulted to 1.

Jim Dettman

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:40 AM
To: [AccessD]
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


Group,

Someone has this at the top of their head or near their
fingertips...hopefully.  In a query, what is the syntax to add a running
recordcount column?  Thanks.


Mark
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From James at fcidms.com  Thu Nov 11 11:12:18 2004
From: James at fcidms.com (James Barash)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 12:12:18 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Unable to Open or Design Reports
In-Reply-To: <006f01c4c6a7$04ba1ac0$f8c581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <0I70005JRYGIP8@mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

All:

I was visiting a client today who was having a problem with our system. None
of the reports would print or preview. From the database window, I was
unable to Preview or Design any of the existing reports and was unable to
create a new report, either using the Design View or the Report Wizard. I
created a blank database and also could not create any reports. Trying to
open or design did not produce any error message, but did not open a report
either. Using the Report Wizard, I got through all the prompts and after
clicking the Finished button, I got the message "Unable to Create Report" I
could create all the other types of objects: Tables, Queries, Forms, Macros
and Modules. The system was working as of last week and he assured me there
had been no changes to the computer since. Our system does work on other
computer in the same office.
	The system is a single file running on the local drive. The user
does have admin rights (create, read, write, update, delete) on the local
drive. The computer is running Windows XP (SP1) and Office 2003 (SP1). I
suggested that reloading Office would be the best thing to do but that has
to be done through their IT department and could take a while. Has anyone
seen this before and have a solution or any suggestions.

Thanks,

James Barash



From liz at symphonyinfo.com  Thu Nov 11 11:32:10 2004
From: liz at symphonyinfo.com (Liz Doering)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 11:32:10 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Unable to Open or Design Reports
In-Reply-To: <0I70005JRYGIP8@mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <E1CSInv-00030x-00@pop-a065d14.pas.sa.earthlink.net>

Did your client's computer have a default printer assigned?  If none is
assigned, Access won't do anything with reports.   

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of James Barash
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 11:12 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Unable to Open or Design Reports

All:

I was visiting a client today who was having a problem with our system. None
of the reports would print or preview. From the database window, I was
unable to Preview or Design any of the existing reports and was unable to
create a new report, either using the Design View or the Report Wizard. I
created a blank database and also could not create any reports. Trying to
open or design did not produce any error message, but did not open a report
either. Using the Report Wizard, I got through all the prompts and after
clicking the Finished button, I got the message "Unable to Create Report" I
could create all the other types of objects: Tables, Queries, Forms, Macros
and Modules. The system was working as of last week and he assured me there
had been no changes to the computer since. Our system does work on other
computer in the same office.
	The system is a single file running on the local drive. The user
does have admin rights (create, read, write, update, delete) on the local
drive. The computer is running Windows XP (SP1) and Office 2003 (SP1). I
suggested that reloading Office would be the best thing to do but that has
to be done through their IT department and could take a while. Has anyone
seen this before and have a solution or any suggestions.

Thanks,

James Barash

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov 11 11:34:59 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 18:34:59 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Unable to Open or Design Reports
In-Reply-To: <0I70005JRYGIP8@mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
References: <0I70005JRYGIP8@mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <15734468543.20041111183459@cactus.dk>

Hi James

This sounds as if no default printer or no printer at all is
installed.

/gustav


> I was visiting a client today who was having a problem with our system. None
> of the reports would print or preview. From the database window, I was
> unable to Preview or Design any of the existing reports and was unable to
> create a new report, either using the Design View or the Report Wizard. I
> created a blank database and also could not create any reports. Trying to
> open or design did not produce any error message, but did not open a report
> either. Using the Report Wizard, I got through all the prompts and after
> clicking the Finished button, I got the message "Unable to Create Report" I
> could create all the other types of objects: Tables, Queries, Forms, Macros
> and Modules. The system was working as of last week and he assured me there
> had been no changes to the computer since. Our system does work on other
> computer in the same office.
>         The system is a single file running on the local drive. The user
> does have admin rights (create, read, write, update, delete) on the local
> drive. The computer is running Windows XP (SP1) and Office 2003 (SP1). I
> suggested that reloading Office would be the best thing to do but that has
> to be done through their IT department and could take a while. Has anyone
> seen this before and have a solution or any suggestions.

> Thanks,

> James Barash



From artful at rogers.com  Thu Nov 11 11:38:57 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 12:38:57 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access with a MySQL database
In-Reply-To: <EAF3070ACB1AD81182280002A51EF731192345@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>
References: <EAF3070ACB1AD81182280002A51EF731192345@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <4193A3B1.1010302@rogers.com>

Paul Rodgers wrote:

>Hi Arthur
>
>I'd be very much obliged if you could let us/me know  when your words on
>MsSql are published on a website.
>
>Thanks very much for the info here which is most useful. 
>
>Cheers
>
>paul
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com]
>Sent: 28 October 2004 02:54
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access with a MySQL database
>
>
>MartyConnelly wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Something I came across from an ASP perspective
>>http://www.aspfree.com/c/a/Microsoft-Access/An-Access-Front-End-to-MySQL/
>>
>>Barbara Ryan wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Does anyone have any experience using an Access application as a 
>>>front-end to a MySQL database back-end?  My client is interested in 
>>>converting the Access back-end to either SQL Server or MySQL.  They 
>>>currently do not own SQL Server but are using MySQL in their web 
>>>application.
>>>
>>>Any thoughts (advantages, limitations, etc.)?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Barb Ryan
>>> 
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>Hmph. I thought I answered this already, but it must have been a senior 
>moment. I have been there and done that extensively, for the book (that 
>was cancelled, and will soon re-emerge as a web site) my partner Peter 
>Brawley and I wrote about MySQL.
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>  
>
Thanks for asking. It shouldn't be a whole lot longer now; we're 
proofing it currently. (We = my long-time partner Peter Brawley and I.) 
I'm not sure how much of the "book" will be of interest to Access 
developers. One chatper in the ODBC section takes you step by step 
through porting Northwind to MySQL and then modifying the Access app to 
talk to the MySQL Northwind database. Actually there's not much to it, 
and I can thumbnail it here.

There's really only one thing to worry about. Before converting, it's 
useful to add a timestamp column to each table -- just make it a 
DateTime column and default it to "=Now()".

1. Install MySQL and make sure it works.
2. Create a Northwind database in MySQL.
3. Install MyODBC.
4. Copy Northwind.MDB to NorthwindMySQL.MDB. Delete all the tables.
5. Create a DSN that uses MyODBC and points to the Northwind MySQL database.
6. Open the NorthwindMySQL.mdb and then the linked tables manager and 
point to the DSN.
7. Import all the tables.
8. You'll have problems with a few queries. I forget which ones offhand 
and don't have the chapter in front of me, but the chapter details which 
ones need changing and specifies the changes.

Arthur



From artful at rogers.com  Thu Nov 11 11:44:55 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 12:44:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables
In-Reply-To: <4311196319.20041111120707@cactus.dk>
References: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33936@nprdex02.nns.com>	<41929CF8.7070802@rogers.com>
	<4311196319.20041111120707@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <4193A517.1050002@rogers.com>

Gustav Brock wrote:

>Hi Mark and Arthur
>
>That may work but you'll be in trouble when trying to switch to design
>view.
>  
>
>
Design view is for wieners. In fact monitors are for wieners. Real 
programmers don't use compilers, they write compilers. Real programmers 
don't even need keyboards. They use voice-recognition software and emit 
ones and zeroes for a long time, and the results are vastly successful 
applications and games.


From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Nov 11 12:08:00 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 13:08:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33944@nprdex02.nns.com>

John, Jim,

Gentlemen...we have a problem:)

Both of these approaches produce the same results (probably a good thing),
however the results are not what I expected.  My uneducated guess is that I
should have mentioned that this is for an aggregate query.  So what these
methods end up producing is a count of each GroupBy.  Any suggestions?


Mark




-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 11:35 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


Mark,

  I think your saying you want the records numbered?

  I use a custom function:

Global glngGetLineCounter As Long

Function GetLineCounter(varName As Variant) As Long

  glngGetLineCounter = glngGetLineCounter + 1
  GetLineCounter = glngGetLineCounter

End Function

  Which I call from the query

LineNo:GetLineCounter(<somefieldname>)


  If you need this in a form or report though, add a control with a running
sum defaulted to 1.

Jim Dettman

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:40 AM
To: [AccessD]
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


Group,

Someone has this at the top of their head or near their
fingertips...hopefully.  In a query, what is the syntax to add a running
recordcount column?  Thanks.


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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Thu Nov 11 12:36:56 2004
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 13:36:56 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A279B@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

'fraid not. That will just give you "1" in every row (after you've turn the
query into a Totals query, .Count(PK) as Cnt simply wont work at all in a
standard select query).

My question is why you want to do this in a query? If the end result it to
be used in a report or a form then you don't need to modify the query,
instead you modify the report or form to use the RunningSum property. It's
all there in the on-line help.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
> Sent:	Thursday, November 11, 2004 11:11 AM
> To:	'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject:	RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field
> 
> Count(PK) as Cnt in the select clause
> 
> Where PK is the primary key
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com 
> 
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:40 AM
> To: [AccessD]
> Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field
> 
> 
> Group,
> 
> Someone has this at the top of their head or near their
> fingertips...hopefully.  In a query, what is the syntax to add a running
> recordcount column?  Thanks.
> 
> 
> Mark
> -- 
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Nov 11 12:41:45 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 13:41:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field
In-Reply-To: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33944@nprdex02.nns.com>
Message-ID: <005e01c4c81e$1c78a820$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

You want just an incrementing number?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


John, Jim,

Gentlemen...we have a problem:)

Both of these approaches produce the same results (probably a good thing),
however the results are not what I expected.  My uneducated guess is that I
should have mentioned that this is for an aggregate query.  So what these
methods end up producing is a count of each GroupBy.  Any suggestions?


Mark




-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 11:35 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


Mark,

  I think your saying you want the records numbered?

  I use a custom function:

Global glngGetLineCounter As Long

Function GetLineCounter(varName As Variant) As Long

  glngGetLineCounter = glngGetLineCounter + 1
  GetLineCounter = glngGetLineCounter

End Function

  Which I call from the query

LineNo:GetLineCounter(<somefieldname>)


  If you need this in a form or report though, add a control with a running
sum defaulted to 1.

Jim Dettman

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:40 AM
To: [AccessD]
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


Group,

Someone has this at the top of their head or near their
fingertips...hopefully.  In a query, what is the syntax to add a running
recordcount column?  Thanks.


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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Nov 11 12:46:15 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 13:46:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field
In-Reply-To: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33944@nprdex02.nns.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKGEABKNAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Mark,

  Still should have numbered each row in the final output. I just tried it
here and it works fine.

SELECT tblLookupControl.FormName, GetLineCounter([FormName]) AS LineNumber
FROM tblLookupControl
GROUP BY tblLookupControl.FormName;

  I'm not clear on how you ended up with the same result with the two
methods either.  If I do:

SELECT tblLookupControl.FormName, Count([FormName]) AS LineNumber
FROM tblLookupControl
GROUP BY tblLookupControl.FormName;

  I get the number of occurrences within each group.

Jim Dettman


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


John, Jim,

Gentlemen...we have a problem:)

Both of these approaches produce the same results (probably a good thing),
however the results are not what I expected.  My uneducated guess is that I
should have mentioned that this is for an aggregate query.  So what these
methods end up producing is a count of each GroupBy.  Any suggestions?


Mark




-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 11:35 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


Mark,

  I think your saying you want the records numbered?

  I use a custom function:

Global glngGetLineCounter As Long

Function GetLineCounter(varName As Variant) As Long

  glngGetLineCounter = glngGetLineCounter + 1
  GetLineCounter = glngGetLineCounter

End Function

  Which I call from the query

LineNo:GetLineCounter(<somefieldname>)


  If you need this in a form or report though, add a control with a running
sum defaulted to 1.

Jim Dettman

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:40 AM
To: [AccessD]
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


Group,

Someone has this at the top of their head or near their
fingertips...hopefully.  In a query, what is the syntax to add a running
recordcount column?  Thanks.


Mark
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Nov 11 13:25:19 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 14:25:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33947@nprdex02.nns.com>

Lambert,

My current method does utilize the RunningSum property.  This question
loosely relates to a previous thread regarding table joins.  I'm hoping to
eventually run across the subject of subqueries in my archives which ties
these two threads together.

Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:37 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


'fraid not. That will just give you "1" in every row (after you've turn the
query into a Totals query, .Count(PK) as Cnt simply wont work at all in a
standard select query).

My question is why you want to do this in a query? If the end result it to
be used in a report or a form then you don't need to modify the query,
instead you modify the report or form to use the RunningSum property. It's
all there in the on-line help.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
> Sent:	Thursday, November 11, 2004 11:11 AM
> To:	'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject:	RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field
> 
> Count(PK) as Cnt in the select clause
> 
> Where PK is the primary key
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com 
> 
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:40 AM
> To: [AccessD]
> Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field
> 
> 
> Group,
> 
> Someone has this at the top of their head or near their
> fingertips...hopefully.  In a query, what is the syntax to add a running
> recordcount column?  Thanks.
> 
> 
> Mark
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Nov 11 13:26:54 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 14:26:54 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33948@nprdex02.nns.com>

Jim,

Would you be willing to look at the SQL off-list?

Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:46 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


Mark,

  Still should have numbered each row in the final output. I just tried it
here and it works fine.

SELECT tblLookupControl.FormName, GetLineCounter([FormName]) AS LineNumber
FROM tblLookupControl
GROUP BY tblLookupControl.FormName;

  I'm not clear on how you ended up with the same result with the two
methods either.  If I do:

SELECT tblLookupControl.FormName, Count([FormName]) AS LineNumber
FROM tblLookupControl
GROUP BY tblLookupControl.FormName;

  I get the number of occurrences within each group.

Jim Dettman


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


John, Jim,

Gentlemen...we have a problem:)

Both of these approaches produce the same results (probably a good thing),
however the results are not what I expected.  My uneducated guess is that I
should have mentioned that this is for an aggregate query.  So what these
methods end up producing is a count of each GroupBy.  Any suggestions?


Mark




-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 11:35 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


Mark,

  I think your saying you want the records numbered?

  I use a custom function:

Global glngGetLineCounter As Long

Function GetLineCounter(varName As Variant) As Long

  glngGetLineCounter = glngGetLineCounter + 1
  GetLineCounter = glngGetLineCounter

End Function

  Which I call from the query

LineNo:GetLineCounter(<somefieldname>)


  If you need this in a form or report though, add a control with a running
sum defaulted to 1.

Jim Dettman

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:40 AM
To: [AccessD]
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


Group,

Someone has this at the top of their head or near their
fingertips...hopefully.  In a query, what is the syntax to add a running
recordcount column?  Thanks.


Mark
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Nov 11 14:01:28 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 12:01:28 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables
In-Reply-To: <4193A517.1050002@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIMEBCCIAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Arthur:

Do I catch a very subtle note of sarcasm or should I be seriously
reconsidering my programming style?

Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 9:45 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


Gustav Brock wrote:

>Hi Mark and Arthur
>
>That may work but you'll be in trouble when trying to switch to design
>view.
>
>
>
Design view is for wieners. In fact monitors are for wieners. Real
programmers don't use compilers, they write compilers. Real programmers
don't even need keyboards. They use voice-recognition software and emit
ones and zeroes for a long time, and the results are vastly successful
applications and games.
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From lists at theopg.com  Thu Nov 11 14:05:04 2004
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:05:04 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables
In-Reply-To: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33939@nprdex02.nns.com>
Message-ID: <000201c4c829$bcfa6f80$d30d6bd5@netboxxp>

Didn't read the whole thread so sorry if this has been done...

You don?t need a join, you can just use criteria if you like (not
necessarilly very eficient though?)

E.g. "SELECT a.*, b.* FROM a, b WHERE a.col1=mid(b.col2,3)"

Hth

Mark

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules,
Mark
Sent: 11 November 2004 13:35
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


Thank you all for the comments.

That is exactly what I ended up doing.  But since I lack the SQL "guru"
certification ;) I thought I'd put the question out there.  I was
thinking back to a thread a long while back regarding a method that
creates a sort of temporary table within one query...or something along
those lines.  I didn't know if/how that method might apply to my
situation.

Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 6:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


Hi Mark and Arthur

That may work but you'll be in trouble when trying to switch to design
view. I would create a query for Tbl2 with a field with the expression
needed to match the Tbl1.Fld1. Then use this query for Tbl1 whenever you
need to join Tbl1 and Tbl2.

/gustav


>>I have two tables I would like to join.  Tbl1.Fld1 contains a 
>>variable-length string, Tbl2.Fld2 contains the same variable-length 
>>string concatenated with a variable-length suffix.
>>
>>Any suggestions on how to proceed?  Is there an elegant solution?
>>
>>Mark

> At first blush I would try this:
>
> SELECT * FROM T1 INNER JOIN T2 ON T1.Field1 = Left(T.2.Field1,
> LEN(T1.Field1))

> Arthur

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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Nov 11 14:29:55 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 15:29:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33949@nprdex02.nns.com>

Yes, for each record returned by the query.
In the example below, it would be fldItem.


A simple example:
fldItem  fldName  fldScore
1        Tom      90
2        Dick     95
3        Harry    93


Mark




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Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:42 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


You want just an incrementing number?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:08 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


John, Jim,

Gentlemen...we have a problem:)

Both of these approaches produce the same results (probably a good thing),
however the results are not what I expected.  My uneducated guess is that I
should have mentioned that this is for an aggregate query.  So what these
methods end up producing is a count of each GroupBy.  Any suggestions?


Mark




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From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 11:35 AM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


Mark,

  I think your saying you want the records numbered?

  I use a custom function:

Global glngGetLineCounter As Long

Function GetLineCounter(varName As Variant) As Long

  glngGetLineCounter = glngGetLineCounter + 1
  GetLineCounter = glngGetLineCounter

End Function

  Which I call from the query

LineNo:GetLineCounter(<somefieldname>)


  If you need this in a form or report though, add a control with a running
sum defaulted to 1.

Jim Dettman

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Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


Group,

Someone has this at the top of their head or near their
fingertips...hopefully.  In a query, what is the syntax to add a running
recordcount column?  Thanks.


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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Nov 11 14:44:39 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 15:44:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F3394A@nprdex02.nns.com>

Thanks for the suggestion.  In this instance, since I'm dealing with < 10K
records I wonder if efficiency would be noteworthy?


Mark




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Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 3:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


Didn't read the whole thread so sorry if this has been done...

You don't need a join, you can just use criteria if you like (not
necessarilly very eficient though?)

E.g. "SELECT a.*, b.* FROM a, b WHERE a.col1=mid(b.col2,3)"

Hth

Mark

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules,
Mark
Sent: 11 November 2004 13:35
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


Thank you all for the comments.

That is exactly what I ended up doing.  But since I lack the SQL "guru"
certification ;) I thought I'd put the question out there.  I was
thinking back to a thread a long while back regarding a method that
creates a sort of temporary table within one query...or something along
those lines.  I didn't know if/how that method might apply to my
situation.

Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 6:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


Hi Mark and Arthur

That may work but you'll be in trouble when trying to switch to design
view. I would create a query for Tbl2 with a field with the expression
needed to match the Tbl1.Fld1. Then use this query for Tbl1 whenever you
need to join Tbl1 and Tbl2.

/gustav


>>I have two tables I would like to join.  Tbl1.Fld1 contains a 
>>variable-length string, Tbl2.Fld2 contains the same variable-length 
>>string concatenated with a variable-length suffix.
>>
>>Any suggestions on how to proceed?  Is there an elegant solution?
>>
>>Mark

> At first blush I would try this:
>
> SELECT * FROM T1 INNER JOIN T2 ON T1.Field1 = Left(T.2.Field1,
> LEN(T1.Field1))

> Arthur

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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Nov 11 15:30:25 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 16:30:25 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field
In-Reply-To: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33948@nprdex02.nns.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKGEAOKNAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Mark,

  Sure.  But on would be fine too; it is on topic.

Jim 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 2:27 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


Jim,

Would you be willing to look at the SQL off-list?

Mark



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Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:46 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


Mark,

  Still should have numbered each row in the final output. I just tried it
here and it works fine.

SELECT tblLookupControl.FormName, GetLineCounter([FormName]) AS LineNumber
FROM tblLookupControl
GROUP BY tblLookupControl.FormName;

  I'm not clear on how you ended up with the same result with the two
methods either.  If I do:

SELECT tblLookupControl.FormName, Count([FormName]) AS LineNumber
FROM tblLookupControl
GROUP BY tblLookupControl.FormName;

  I get the number of occurrences within each group.

Jim Dettman


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


John, Jim,

Gentlemen...we have a problem:)

Both of these approaches produce the same results (probably a good thing),
however the results are not what I expected.  My uneducated guess is that I
should have mentioned that this is for an aggregate query.  So what these
methods end up producing is a count of each GroupBy.  Any suggestions?


Mark




-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 11:35 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


Mark,

  I think your saying you want the records numbered?

  I use a custom function:

Global glngGetLineCounter As Long

Function GetLineCounter(varName As Variant) As Long

  glngGetLineCounter = glngGetLineCounter + 1
  GetLineCounter = glngGetLineCounter

End Function

  Which I call from the query

LineNo:GetLineCounter(<somefieldname>)


  If you need this in a form or report though, add a control with a running
sum defaulted to 1.

Jim Dettman

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Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


Group,

Someone has this at the top of their head or near their
fingertips...hopefully.  In a query, what is the syntax to add a running
recordcount column?  Thanks.


Mark
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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Nov 11 18:32:03 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:32:03 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Filter Property
Message-ID: <200411120032.iAC0WIdQ025524@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hello all
The help wasn't very helpful
I want to apply a filter to a form using criteria from other controls
like
Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling = " & Me.txtStartDate
Me.FilterOn = true
 
 
It doesn't seem to work (IE It returns no results) 
But I have about 20 records where about 6 of those records 
have the same DateOfBilling date as I am typing into txtStartDate field
 
So why don't I see those 6 returned from the 20??
 
Many thanks 
 
Darren
 


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Nov 11 18:48:13 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:48:13 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Filter Property
In-Reply-To: <200411120032.iAC0WIdQ025524@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <419494ED.24745.67A7C4@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 12 Nov 2004 at 11:32, Darren DICK wrote:

> Hello all
> The help wasn't very helpful
> I want to apply a filter to a form using criteria from other controls
> like
> Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling = " & Me.txtStartDate
> Me.FilterOn = true
>  
>  
> It doesn't seem to work (IE It returns no results) 
> But I have about 20 records where about 6 of those records 
> have the same DateOfBilling date as I am typing into txtStartDate field
>  
> So why don't I see those 6 returned from the 20??
>  

Good old Internationalisation and date display formats strikes again?

Try 
Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling = DateValue('" & Me.txtStartDate & "')"


-- 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Nov 11 18:51:26 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:51:26 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Filter Property
In-Reply-To: <419494ED.24745.67A7C4@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <20041112005125.GAXE2430.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

If the delimiters are the problem as Stuart suggests, you should be able to
use the following:

Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling = #" & Me.txtStartDate & "#)"

I know that the Filter property can be a real pia, but I don't remember why
off the top of my head. Don't forget to enable it -- something like

Me.Filter.On = True

???? Really not sure about that last one -- but you need to make sure the
form knows to actually use the filter. 

Susan H. 

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Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 7:48 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003: Filter Property

On 12 Nov 2004 at 11:32, Darren DICK wrote:

> Hello all
> The help wasn't very helpful
> I want to apply a filter to a form using criteria from other controls 
> like Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling = " & Me.txtStartDate Me.FilterOn = 
> true
>  
>  
> It doesn't seem to work (IE It returns no results) But I have about 20 
> records where about 6 of those records have the same DateOfBilling 
> date as I am typing into txtStartDate field
>  
> So why don't I see those 6 returned from the 20??
>  

Good old Internationalisation and date display formats strikes again?

Try
Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling = DateValue('" & Me.txtStartDate & "')"


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Nov 11 18:52:58 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 16:52:58 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Filter Property
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B77@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Darren,

The Form's filter property is a string but if you're trying to apply the
filter to a date field, make sure you include the hash marks around the
date string so the datasource can compare it properly.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Darren DICK [mailto:d.dick at uws.edu.au] 
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 4:32 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Filter Property


Hello all
The help wasn't very helpful
I want to apply a filter to a form using criteria from other controls
like Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling = " & Me.txtStartDate Me.FilterOn = true
 
 
It doesn't seem to work (IE It returns no results) 
But I have about 20 records where about 6 of those records 
have the same DateOfBilling date as I am typing into txtStartDate field
 
So why don't I see those 6 returned from the 20??
 
Many thanks 
 
Darren
 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Nov 11 19:03:25 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:03:25 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Filter Property
In-Reply-To: <20041112005125.GAXE2430.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <419494ED.24745.67A7C4@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <4194987D.4043.759244@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 11 Nov 2004 at 19:51, Susan Harkins wrote:

> If the delimiters are the problem as Stuart suggests, you should be able to
> use the following:
> 
> Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling = #" & Me.txtStartDate & "#)"
> 

Nope, Darren's an Aussie.  

Doing it that way gets the month and day reversed if he is using the 
default short date (today is 12/11/04, not 11/12/04 to us) and doesn't work 
at all if he using something like  "12 Nov 04" :-(

-- 
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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Nov 11 19:41:18 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 12:41:18 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Filter Property
In-Reply-To: <419494ED.24745.67A7C4@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <200411120141.iAC1fXdQ003082@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Stuart et al
Excellent - DateValue('" & Me.txtStartDate & "')" works like a charm
Next q :-))
What would the syntax be or a date range
Eg in SQL you'd write something like...
>= Me.txtStartDate and <= Me.txEndDate

How does this apply to a filter or does it not apply??

Many thanks

Darren

 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Friday, 12 November 2004 11:48 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003: Filter Property

On 12 Nov 2004 at 11:32, Darren DICK wrote:

> Hello all
> The help wasn't very helpful
> I want to apply a filter to a form using criteria from other controls 
> like Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling = " & Me.txtStartDate Me.FilterOn = 
> true
>  
>  
> It doesn't seem to work (IE It returns no results) But I have about 20 
> records where about 6 of those records have the same DateOfBilling 
> date as I am typing into txtStartDate field
>  
> So why don't I see those 6 returned from the 20??
>  

Good old Internationalisation and date display formats strikes again?

Try
Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling = DateValue('" & Me.txtStartDate & "')"


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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Nov 11 19:45:14 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 12:45:14 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Filter Property
In-Reply-To: <419494ED.24745.67A7C4@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <200411120145.iAC1jUdQ007739@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Oops worked it out
It's

Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling >= DateValue('" & Me.txtStartDate & "')" _
 & "and DateOfBilling <= DateValue('" & Me.txtEndDate & "')"

Many thanks y'all

See ya

Darren
Stuart --- you da man !!!!!!!!!!!!1


 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Friday, 12 November 2004 11:48 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003: Filter Property

On 12 Nov 2004 at 11:32, Darren DICK wrote:

> Hello all
> The help wasn't very helpful
> I want to apply a filter to a form using criteria from other controls 
> like Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling = " & Me.txtStartDate Me.FilterOn = 
> true
>  
>  
> It doesn't seem to work (IE It returns no results) But I have about 20 
> records where about 6 of those records have the same DateOfBilling 
> date as I am typing into txtStartDate field
>  
> So why don't I see those 6 returned from the 20??
>  

Good old Internationalisation and date display formats strikes again?

Try
Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling = DateValue('" & Me.txtStartDate & "')"


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From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Thu Nov 11 23:34:59 2004
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:04:59 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Filter Property
References: <200411120145.iAC1jUdQ007739@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <019201c4c879$8a5ff900$e81865cb@winxp>

Using Date Variables In A Criteria String
===========================
Certain aspects required to be kept in view
----------------------------------------------------

    Similar topic came up in one of the other discussion groups,  where it was pointed out by John Viescas, that when a date variable (in its raw state) is concatenated within a string, it will get embedded in a format governed by existing regional settings (for short date) on the particular computer.

    This can lead to unexpected results where the computer's system settings are not conforming to U.S. convention (mm-dd-yyyy).

    It was therefore concluded that as a foolproof measure for consistent results, the date variable should first be converted into a non-ambiguous string format (or into U.S style format), before being concatenated with the main statement. 

    An example is given below (TDate is a date type field in table T_Test, while StartDate & FinDate are variables holding date values)-

StrSQL = "DELETE * FROM T_Test"
StrSQL = StrSQL & " WHERE TDate Between  #" & _
                 Format(StartDate, "dd-mmm-yyyy") & "#"
StrSQL = StrSQL & " AND #" & _
                 Format(FinDate, "dd-mmm-yyyy") & "#;"

A.D.Tejpal
--------------

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  Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 07:15
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003: Filter Property


  Oops worked it out
  It's

  Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling >= DateValue('" & Me.txtStartDate & "')" _
   & "and DateOfBilling <= DateValue('" & Me.txtEndDate & "')"

  Many thanks y'all

  See ya

  Darren
  Stuart --- you da man !!!!!!!!!!!!1
   

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  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
  Sent: Friday, 12 November 2004 11:48 AM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003: Filter Property

  On 12 Nov 2004 at 11:32, Darren DICK wrote:

  > Hello all
  > The help wasn't very helpful
  > I want to apply a filter to a form using criteria from other controls 
  > like Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling = " & Me.txtStartDate Me.FilterOn = 
  > true
  >  
  >  
  > It doesn't seem to work (IE It returns no results) But I have about 20 
  > records where about 6 of those records have the same DateOfBilling 
  > date as I am typing into txtStartDate field
  >  
  > So why don't I see those 6 returned from the 20??
  >  
  Good old Internationalisation and date display formats strikes again?

  Try
  Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling = DateValue('" & Me.txtStartDate & "')"

  Stuart



From Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk  Fri Nov 12 02:45:01 2004
From: Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk (Paul Rodgers)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 08:45:01 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access with a MySQL database
Message-ID: <EAF3070ACB1AD81182280002A51EF731192349@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>

All noted, Arthur, thanks very much. Will try from these notes - and looking
forward to your posting on the net. Hope things are ok with you. 
Cheers
paul 

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Sent: 11 November 2004 17:39
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access with a MySQL database




From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Nov 12 04:54:14 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:54:14 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables
In-Reply-To: <000201c4c829$bcfa6f80$d30d6bd5@netboxxp>
References: <000201c4c829$bcfa6f80$d30d6bd5@netboxxp>
Message-ID: <872658342.20041112115414@cactus.dk>

Hi Mark

That's right, though I only do that when absolutely needed.
Look up in the archive for July 2002:

  SQL in-line subquery (solved)

for the

  [<SQL Select>]. AS TableX

syntax.

/gustav


> That is exactly what I ended up doing.  But since I lack the SQL "guru"
> certification ;) I thought I'd put the question out there.  I was
> thinking back to a thread a long while back regarding a method that
> creates a sort of temporary table within one query...or something along
> those lines.  I didn't know if/how that method might apply to my
> situation.

> Mark


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 6:07 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


> Hi Mark and Arthur

> That may work but you'll be in trouble when trying to switch to design
> view. I would create a query for Tbl2 with a field with the expression
> needed to match the Tbl1.Fld1. Then use this query for Tbl1 whenever you
> need to join Tbl1 and Tbl2.

> /gustav


>>>I have two tables I would like to join.  Tbl1.Fld1 contains a 
>>>variable-length string, Tbl2.Fld2 contains the same variable-length 
>>>string concatenated with a variable-length suffix.
>>>
>>>Any suggestions on how to proceed?  Is there an elegant solution?
>>>
>>>Mark

>> At first blush I would try this:
>>
>> SELECT * FROM T1 INNER JOIN T2 ON T1.Field1 = Left(T.2.Field1,
>> LEN(T1.Field1))

>> Arthur



From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Nov 12 05:17:00 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 12:17:00 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Filter Property
In-Reply-To: <200411120032.iAC0WIdQ025524@cooper.uws.edu.au>
References: <200411120032.iAC0WIdQ025524@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <1844024677.20041112121700@cactus.dk>

Hi Darren

The only foolproof way is to force US formatting of date strings:

  Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling = " & _
    Format(Me.txtStartDate, "\# mm\/dd\/yyyy \#")

/gustav


> I want to apply a filter to a form using criteria from other controls
> like
> Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling = " & Me.txtStartDate
> Me.FilterOn = true
 
 
> It doesn't seem to work (IE It returns no results) 
> But I have about 20 records where about 6 of those records 
> have the same DateOfBilling date as I am typing into txtStartDate field
 
> So why don't I see those 6 returned from the 20??



From Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk  Fri Nov 12 05:35:51 2004
From: Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk (Paul Rodgers)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:35:51 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Function No Go
Message-ID: <EAF3070ACB1AD81182280002A51EF731192351@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>

Many thanks, Joe Hecht and Jim Dettman. Exactly the problem - and it was
DAO. Having that hint of DAO cut the corners and made it a very quick
correction. (I had feared it might take an hour or more). Most grateful.
Cheers
paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: 11 November 2004 13:13
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Function No Go


As Joe said, it's references.

 Open a module in design view, click tools/references.  Look for any listed
as MISSING or BROKEN.  If they are, you'll need to figure out why.  If none
are, check any unchecked reference, close the MDB and Access, re-open and
uncheck the reference just checked.  Then try a compile.

  If still no go then a lib needs to be re-registered with regsvr32 (usually
it's DAO).

Jim Dettman



From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Fri Nov 12 07:07:01 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 05:07:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Outlook programming sites/info
Message-ID: <20041112130702.53053.qmail@web61103.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi group,
 
I need to do some outlook programming (couple of forms etc.)
does anybody know some good oulook programming websites?
 
TIA
 
Sander

			
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Fri Nov 12 06:37:57 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 13:37:57 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Outlook programming sites/info
Message-ID: <20041112133754.5D056250798@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Try

http://www.slipstick.com/

http://www.outlookcode.com

http://www.outlook-tips.net/index.html

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Date: 12/11/04 13:10

>
> Hi group,
>
> I need to do some outlook programming (couple of forms etc.)
> does anybody know some good oulook programming websites?
>
> TIA
>
> Sander
>
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Fri Nov 12 07:38:29 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 08:38:29 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Outlook programming sites/info
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33950@nprdex02.nns.com>

Sander,

One of the most quoted sites I've seen on this list is probably
www.slipstick.com.

Mark



-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 8:07 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Outlook programming sites/info


Hi group,
 
I need to do some outlook programming (couple of forms etc.)
does anybody know some good oulook programming websites?
 
TIA
 
Sander

			
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From James at fcidms.com  Fri Nov 12 07:39:20 2004
From: James at fcidms.com (James Barash)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 08:39:20 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Unable to Open or Design Reports
In-Reply-To: <15734468543.20041111183459@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <0I7200LLQJ9K5M@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

Gustav and Liz:

Thanks for the suggestions. I hadn't thought of that since everything worked
correctly as of last week. I'll pass it on to my client and hope that does
it.

James Barash

 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 12:35 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Unable to Open or Design Reports

Hi James

This sounds as if no default printer or no printer at all is
installed.

/gustav


> I was visiting a client today who was having a problem with our system.
None
> of the reports would print or preview. From the database window, I was
> unable to Preview or Design any of the existing reports and was unable to
> create a new report, either using the Design View or the Report Wizard. I
> created a blank database and also could not create any reports. Trying to
> open or design did not produce any error message, but did not open a
report
> either. Using the Report Wizard, I got through all the prompts and after
> clicking the Finished button, I got the message "Unable to Create Report"
I
> could create all the other types of objects: Tables, Queries, Forms,
Macros
> and Modules. The system was working as of last week and he assured me
there
> had been no changes to the computer since. Our system does work on other
> computer in the same office.
>         The system is a single file running on the local drive. The user
> does have admin rights (create, read, write, update, delete) on the local
> drive. The computer is running Windows XP (SP1) and Office 2003 (SP1). I
> suggested that reloading Office would be the best thing to do but that has
> to be done through their IT department and could take a while. Has anyone
> seen this before and have a solution or any suggestions.

> Thanks,

> James Barash

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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Fri Nov 12 08:04:20 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:04:20 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Outlook programming sites/info
In-Reply-To: <20041112130702.53053.qmail@web61103.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKIECMKNAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>



  Helen's been at that stuff for a while:

 http://www.helenfeddema.com/

Jim Dettman


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Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 8:07 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Outlook programming sites/info


Hi group,
 
I need to do some outlook programming (couple of forms etc.)
does anybody know some good oulook programming websites?
 
TIA
 
Sander

			
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Nov 12 08:43:31 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:43:31 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Filter Property
In-Reply-To: <4194987D.4043.759244@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <20041112144330.KSEL2451.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Well, who knew??????? ;) Is this the spot for Gustav's little international
date breaker????? :) 

Susan H. 

Nope, Darren's an Aussie.  

Doing it that way gets the month and day reversed if he is using the default
short date (today is 12/11/04, not 11/12/04 to us) and doesn't work at all
if he using something like  "12 Nov 04" :-(



From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Fri Nov 12 10:04:48 2004
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:04:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place
Message-ID: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAAEFOCIAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

I am using split screens for the first time (I use my laptop screen plus a
flat panel for more space).

My question is this:  Is there a way to force apps, like Access, Outlook,
etc., to always open on the primary monitor?

It's possible to have Access on the secondary monitor and close it over
there and then open Access and it will appear to be not open.  I want to
avoid this.

Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com





From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Fri Nov 12 10:17:07 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:17:07 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08653F5F1D@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

What type of video card does it use?  My Matrox G400 and my nVidia
FX5200 cards both have desktop manager software that allows me to
specify which screen an app starts in.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Reuben
Cummings
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 10:05 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place


I am using split screens for the first time (I use my laptop screen plus
a
flat panel for more space).

My question is this:  Is there a way to force apps, like Access,
Outlook,
etc., to always open on the primary monitor?

It's possible to have Access on the secondary monitor and close it over
there and then open Access and it will appear to be not open.  I want to
avoid this.

Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com



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From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Fri Nov 12 10:22:43 2004
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 21:52:43 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field
References: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33949@nprdex02.nns.com>
Message-ID: <005201c4c8d3$ed2c3ad0$791865cb@winxp>

Mark,

    Following alternatives could be considered, for getting running count in a query field -

    (a) Sub-query.
    (b) Domain function i.e. DCount().
    (c) User defined function based upon recordset.
    (d) User defined function based upon sequentially incrementing global variable.

    Use of sub-query for running count renders the output non-updateable. If this is considered a constraint, options (b) or (c) could be tried. In all cases, it is necessary that the fields upon which running count is based, are sorted in proper sequence. The last field amongst the group of sorted fields should be the one holding unique values (so as to prevent duplicate values in running count).

    Option (d) needs special care in view of volatile nature of output. In a select query, it results in inconsistent display, as the calculated result keeps on changing if the user navigates over it repeatedly from. As such, its use is preferably restricted only to single pass action queries (e.g. Append or update).

    Two sample SQL's using sub-query approach are given at (A) and (B) below. (A) represents the simplest case where the running count is based upon only one field (named ID) having unique values, while (B) demonstrates a combination of date field (TDate) and the unique value field (ID).

    The samples are based upon table T_Data as the source. When running count is needed on relatively complex query (specially if it is aggregate type involving group by clause), the final query should be used as source (in place of T_Data).

Regards,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------

(A)
=================================
SELECT (Select Count(*) From T_Data As T1 Where T1.ID <= T_Data.ID) AS RunningCount
FROM T_Data
ORDER BY T_Data.ID;
=================================

(B)
=================================
SELECT (Select Count(*) From T_Data As T1 Where T1.TDate < T_Data.TDate Or (T1.TDate = T_Data.TDate And T1.ID <= T_Data.ID)) AS RunningCount
FROM T_Data
ORDER BY T_Data.TDate, T_Data.ID;
=================================

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mitsules, Mark 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 01:59
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


  Yes, for each record returned by the query.
  In the example below, it would be fldItem.

  A simple example:
  fldItem  fldName  fldScore
  1        Tom      90
  2        Dick     95
  3        Harry    93

  Mark

  -----Original Message-----
  From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
  Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:42 PM
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field

  You want just an incrementing number?

  John W. Colby
  www.ColbyConsulting.com 

  Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
  http://folding.stanford.edu/

  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
  Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:08 PM
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field

  John, Jim,

  Gentlemen...we have a problem:)

  Both of these approaches produce the same results (probably a good thing), however the results are not what I expected.  My uneducated guess is that I should have mentioned that this is for an aggregate query.  So what these methods end up producing is a count of each GroupBy.  Any suggestions?

  Mark


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net] 
  Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 11:35 AM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


  Mark,

    I think your saying you want the records numbered?

    I use a custom function:

  Global glngGetLineCounter As Long

  Function GetLineCounter(varName As Variant) As Long

    glngGetLineCounter = glngGetLineCounter + 1
    GetLineCounter = glngGetLineCounter

  End Function

    Which I call from the query

  LineNo:GetLineCounter(<somefieldname>)

    If you need this in a form or report though, add a control with a running sum defaulted to 1.

  Jim Dettman

  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
  Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:40 AM
  To: [AccessD]
  Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field

  Group,

  Someone has this at the top of their head or near their
  fingertips...hopefully.  In a query, what is the syntax to add a running recordcount column?  Thanks.

  Mark


From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Fri Nov 12 10:42:35 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:42:35 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33954@nprdex02.nns.com>

Reuben,

I understand your concern, however, I will go out on a limb as a "user" and
say that I frown on applications that overtly force or override "my" current
settings...especially if they do not return them to their original state.


Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Reuben Cummings [mailto:reuben at gfconsultants.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 11:05 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place


I am using split screens for the first time (I use my laptop screen plus a
flat panel for more space).

My question is this:  Is there a way to force apps, like Access, Outlook,
etc., to always open on the primary monitor?

It's possible to have Access on the secondary monitor and close it over
there and then open Access and it will appear to be not open.  I want to
avoid this.

Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com



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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Nov 12 10:59:49 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 17:59:49 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
In-Reply-To: <002f01c4c47f$7f204b10$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
References: <002f01c4c47f$7f204b10$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <3524593082.20041112175949@cactus.dk>

Hi John

Not a direct answer, I know, but these are the recommended programming
roads by MS itself (one line):

http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/default.aspx?pull=/library/en-us/dno2k3ta/html/Office2003OverviewDeveloperTechnologies.asp

Part two is not published yet it seems ...

/gustav


> Date: 2004-11-07 05:08

> In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is there an
> equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of Office)?  Do these
> other platforms have references like we do in Access?  If so, can you
> reference an MDA/E to use code in it?



From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Fri Nov 12 11:46:17 2004
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 12:46:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place
In-Reply-To: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33954@nprdex02.nns.com>
Message-ID: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAOEFPCIAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

This is strictly for my own personal use during development.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 11:43 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place


Reuben,

I understand your concern, however, I will go out on a limb as a "user" and
say that I frown on applications that overtly force or override "my" current
settings...especially if they do not return them to their original state.


Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Reuben Cummings [mailto:reuben at gfconsultants.com]
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 11:05 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place


I am using split screens for the first time (I use my laptop screen plus a
flat panel for more space).

My question is this:  Is there a way to force apps, like Access, Outlook,
etc., to always open on the primary monitor?

It's possible to have Access on the secondary monitor and close it over
there and then open Access and it will appear to be not open.  I want to
avoid this.

Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com



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From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Fri Nov 12 11:46:17 2004
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 12:46:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place
In-Reply-To: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08653F5F1D@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>
Message-ID: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAAEGACIAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

It's an Nvidia card.

I'll check out the manager software.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 11:17 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place


What type of video card does it use?  My Matrox G400 and my nVidia
FX5200 cards both have desktop manager software that allows me to
specify which screen an app starts in.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Reuben
Cummings
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 10:05 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place


I am using split screens for the first time (I use my laptop screen plus
a
flat panel for more space).

My question is this:  Is there a way to force apps, like Access,
Outlook,
etc., to always open on the primary monitor?

It's possible to have Access on the secondary monitor and close it over
there and then open Access and it will appear to be not open.  I want to
avoid this.

Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com



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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Fri Nov 12 11:54:16 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 12:54:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33958@nprdex02.nns.com>

Excellent overview A.D.Tejpal!  Many thanks.


Mark




-----Original Message-----
From: A.D.Tejpal [mailto:adtp at touchtelindia.net] 
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 11:23 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


Mark,

    Following alternatives could be considered, for getting running count in
a query field -

    (a) Sub-query.
    (b) Domain function i.e. DCount().
    (c) User defined function based upon recordset.
    (d) User defined function based upon sequentially incrementing global
variable.

    Use of sub-query for running count renders the output non-updateable. If
this is considered a constraint, options (b) or (c) could be tried. In all
cases, it is necessary that the fields upon which running count is based,
are sorted in proper sequence. The last field amongst the group of sorted
fields should be the one holding unique values (so as to prevent duplicate
values in running count).

    Option (d) needs special care in view of volatile nature of output. In a
select query, it results in inconsistent display, as the calculated result
keeps on changing if the user navigates over it repeatedly from. As such,
its use is preferably restricted only to single pass action queries (e.g.
Append or update).

    Two sample SQL's using sub-query approach are given at (A) and (B)
below. (A) represents the simplest case where the running count is based
upon only one field (named ID) having unique values, while (B) demonstrates
a combination of date field (TDate) and the unique value field (ID).

    The samples are based upon table T_Data as the source. When running
count is needed on relatively complex query (specially if it is aggregate
type involving group by clause), the final query should be used as source
(in place of T_Data).

Regards,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------

(A)
=================================
SELECT (Select Count(*) From T_Data As T1 Where T1.ID <= T_Data.ID) AS
RunningCount
FROM T_Data
ORDER BY T_Data.ID;
=================================

(B)
=================================
SELECT (Select Count(*) From T_Data As T1 Where T1.TDate < T_Data.TDate Or
(T1.TDate = T_Data.TDate And T1.ID <= T_Data.ID)) AS RunningCount
FROM T_Data
ORDER BY T_Data.TDate, T_Data.ID;
=================================

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  From: Mitsules, Mark 
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  Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 01:59
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


  Yes, for each record returned by the query.
  In the example below, it would be fldItem.

  A simple example:
  fldItem  fldName  fldScore
  1        Tom      90
  2        Dick     95
  3        Harry    93

  Mark

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  Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:42 PM
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  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field

  You want just an incrementing number?

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  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
  Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:08 PM
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  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field

  John, Jim,

  Gentlemen...we have a problem:)

  Both of these approaches produce the same results (probably a good thing),
however the results are not what I expected.  My uneducated guess is that I
should have mentioned that this is for an aggregate query.  So what these
methods end up producing is a count of each GroupBy.  Any suggestions?

  Mark


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net] 
  Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 11:35 AM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


  Mark,

    I think your saying you want the records numbered?

    I use a custom function:

  Global glngGetLineCounter As Long

  Function GetLineCounter(varName As Variant) As Long

    glngGetLineCounter = glngGetLineCounter + 1
    GetLineCounter = glngGetLineCounter

  End Function

    Which I call from the query

  LineNo:GetLineCounter(<somefieldname>)

    If you need this in a form or report though, add a control with a
running sum defaulted to 1.

  Jim Dettman

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  Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:40 AM
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  Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field

  Group,

  Someone has this at the top of their head or near their
  fingertips...hopefully.  In a query, what is the syntax to add a running
recordcount column?  Thanks.

  Mark
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From pedro at plex.nl  Fri Nov 12 14:37:59 2004
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 21:37:59 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] precursor zero
Message-ID: <003001c4c8f7$804af590$f2c581d5@pedro>

Hello Group,

 i can make an ID by placing a string and a number together with an update query.
What i get then is 

string1
string2
string11
string100

What i would like is precursor zero's so that all number are the same length:

string0001
string0002
string0011
string0100

How can i do this?

Pedro Janssen


From CMackin at quiznos.com  Fri Nov 12 14:48:37 2004
From: CMackin at quiznos.com (Mackin, Christopher)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 13:48:37 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] precursor zero
Message-ID: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27F12E@snowmass.quiznos.net>

String & Right("0000" & CStr(ID), 4)

Will take care of it.

-Chris Mackin

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Subject: [AccessD] precursor zero


Hello Group,

 i can make an ID by placing a string and a number together with an update query.
What i get then is 

string1
string2
string11
string100

What i would like is precursor zero's so that all number are the same length:

string0001
string0002
string0011
string0100

How can i do this?

Pedro Janssen
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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Fri Nov 12 14:55:53 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:55:53 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] precursor zero
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08653F5F26@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

"string" & Format([ID Field Name],"0000")

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Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 2:38 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] precursor zero


Hello Group,

 i can make an ID by placing a string and a number together with an
update query.
What i get then is 

string1
string2
string11
string100

What i would like is precursor zero's so that all number are the same
length:

string0001
string0002
string0011
string0100

How can i do this?

Pedro Janssen
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sat Nov 13 08:58:37 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 09:58:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Probably
Message-ID: <20041113145836.FAVX2451.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Office XP Alternative User Input Update: KB832668 
The Office XP Alternative User Input Update: KB832668 updates the framework
which is used to support advanced text services in Microsoft Office XP.

Update for Office 2003: Alternative User Input (KB870774) 
The Update for Office 2003: Alternative User Input (KB870774) updates the
framework which is used to support advanced text services in Microsoft
Office 2003.

Can someone tell me what the Alternative User Input is? 

Susan H. 



From DaveSharpe2 at cox.net  Sat Nov 13 15:09:00 2004
From: DaveSharpe2 at cox.net (Dave Sharpe)
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 16:09:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Probably
References: <20041113145836.FAVX2451.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <002c01c4c9c4$ff6ec900$6ea9fe18@bcsrkeext6137>

Susan

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/316127

Contains the following "The Office XP Alternative User Input Update:
January 24, 2002 updates the framework that is used to support advanced
text services in Office XP. Examples of advanced text services include
speech recognition, handwriting recognition, and East Asian keyboard
input services."

I hope that this helps.

Dave


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Subject: [AccessD] OT: Probably


Office XP Alternative User Input Update: KB832668
The Office XP Alternative User Input Update: KB832668 updates the framework
which is used to support advanced text services in Microsoft Office XP.

Update for Office 2003: Alternative User Input (KB870774)
The Update for Office 2003: Alternative User Input (KB870774) updates the
framework which is used to support advanced text services in Microsoft
Office 2003.

Can someone tell me what the Alternative User Input is?

Susan H.

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Nov 13 17:20:16 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 09:20:16 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Probably
In-Reply-To: <002c01c4c9c4$ff6ec900$6ea9fe18@bcsrkeext6137>
Message-ID: <41972350.30452.A63CB78@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 13 Nov 2004 at 16:09, Dave Sharpe wrote:

> 
> Contains the following "The Office XP Alternative User Input Update:
> January 24, 2002 updates the framework that is used to support advanced
> text services in Office XP. Examples of advanced text services include
> speech recognition, handwriting recognition, and East Asian keyboard
> input services."
> 

Even further OT:

Another interesting "Alternative User Input" to play with is also not 
limited to Office XP.

Check out Dasher at  http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher

-- 
Stuart




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sat Nov 13 18:04:45 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 19:04:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Probably
In-Reply-To: <41972350.30452.A63CB78@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <20041114000445.XYQW8988.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Had no idea... ;) 

Thanks!
Susan H. 

Another interesting "Alternative User Input" to play with is also not
limited to Office XP.

Check out Dasher at  http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher



From lists at theopg.com  Thu Nov 11 14:51:22 2004
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:51:22 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables
In-Reply-To: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F3394A@nprdex02.nns.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c4c830$3528aca0$d30d6bd5@netboxxp>

I never performance tested it and only used this method in migrations
etc. I'd be real interested to know what the limitations are...?

Mark (the other one)

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Mark
Sent: 11 November 2004 20:45
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


Thanks for the suggestion.  In this instance, since I'm dealing with <
10K records I wonder if efficiency would be noteworthy?


Mark




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Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 3:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
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Didn't read the whole thread so sorry if this has been done...

You don't need a join, you can just use criteria if you like (not
necessarilly very eficient though?)

E.g. "SELECT a.*, b.* FROM a, b WHERE a.col1=mid(b.col2,3)"

Hth

Mark

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Mark
Sent: 11 November 2004 13:35
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


Thank you all for the comments.

That is exactly what I ended up doing.  But since I lack the SQL "guru"
certification ;) I thought I'd put the question out there.  I was
thinking back to a thread a long while back regarding a method that
creates a sort of temporary table within one query...or something along
those lines.  I didn't know if/how that method might apply to my
situation.

Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 6:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


Hi Mark and Arthur

That may work but you'll be in trouble when trying to switch to design
view. I would create a query for Tbl2 with a field with the expression
needed to match the Tbl1.Fld1. Then use this query for Tbl1 whenever you
need to join Tbl1 and Tbl2.

/gustav


>>I have two tables I would like to join.  Tbl1.Fld1 contains a
>>variable-length string, Tbl2.Fld2 contains the same variable-length 
>>string concatenated with a variable-length suffix.
>>
>>Any suggestions on how to proceed?  Is there an elegant solution?
>>
>>Mark

> At first blush I would try this:
>
> SELECT * FROM T1 INNER JOIN T2 ON T1.Field1 = Left(T.2.Field1,
> LEN(T1.Field1))

> Arthur

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Nov 14 07:04:50 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 08:04:50 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables
In-Reply-To: <000a01c4c830$3528aca0$d30d6bd5@netboxxp>
Message-ID: <000801c4ca4a$86aecd90$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

It is my understanding that a join breaks down to (is interpreted as)
exactly that code anyway.

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Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 3:51 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


I never performance tested it and only used this method in migrations etc.
I'd be real interested to know what the limitations are...?

Mark (the other one)

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
Sent: 11 November 2004 20:45
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


Thanks for the suggestion.  In this instance, since I'm dealing with < 10K
records I wonder if efficiency would be noteworthy?


Mark




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From: MarkH [mailto:lists at theopg.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 3:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


Didn't read the whole thread so sorry if this has been done...

You don't need a join, you can just use criteria if you like (not
necessarilly very eficient though?)

E.g. "SELECT a.*, b.* FROM a, b WHERE a.col1=mid(b.col2,3)"

Hth

Mark

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
Sent: 11 November 2004 13:35
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


Thank you all for the comments.

That is exactly what I ended up doing.  But since I lack the SQL "guru"
certification ;) I thought I'd put the question out there.  I was thinking
back to a thread a long while back regarding a method that creates a sort of
temporary table within one query...or something along those lines.  I didn't
know if/how that method might apply to my situation.

Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 6:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


Hi Mark and Arthur

That may work but you'll be in trouble when trying to switch to design view.
I would create a query for Tbl2 with a field with the expression needed to
match the Tbl1.Fld1. Then use this query for Tbl1 whenever you need to join
Tbl1 and Tbl2.

/gustav


>>I have two tables I would like to join.  Tbl1.Fld1 contains a 
>>variable-length string, Tbl2.Fld2 contains the same variable-length 
>>string concatenated with a variable-length suffix.
>>
>>Any suggestions on how to proceed?  Is there an elegant solution?
>>
>>Mark

> At first blush I would try this:
>
> SELECT * FROM T1 INNER JOIN T2 ON T1.Field1 = Left(T.2.Field1,
> LEN(T1.Field1))

> Arthur

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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Sun Nov 14 19:35:56 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 12:35:56 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place
In-Reply-To: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAAEGACIAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>
Message-ID: <200411150136.iAF1a1dQ025733@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Reuben
I use an NVIDIA card also
What you are requesting is Driver dependant - though the NVIDIA Driver
manager does
Allow you to select what screen you want an app to open on.

Be wary though....
I had it happen once that I did some development work on a 'not centred'
form 
Whilst I was in an NVIDIA 'wide screen' kinda setup. 
When the form was opened at the customers place the form open up 'off the
screen'.
And of course it was set to modal so I had to CTRL ALT DEL 

Did some very quick editing (Using the scroll bars to go 'off screen') drag
the form back, 
edit something (I moved a label) and save the changes in the middle of the
customers only screen

So...bear this in mind when opening, designing and moving 'not centred'
popup type forms between screens.

What I do now is....all my form design work on the left screen (I have that
screen as monitor 1) and 
all my code work (monitor 2) on the right. So it shouldn't matter when I am
at my customers with 1 screen

See ya -  hope this helps

DD



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Sent: Saturday, 13 November 2004 4:46 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place

It's an Nvidia card.

I'll check out the manager software.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


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Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 11:17 AM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place


What type of video card does it use?  My Matrox G400 and my nVidia FX5200
cards both have desktop manager software that allows me to specify which
screen an app starts in.

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Subject: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place


I am using split screens for the first time (I use my laptop screen plus a
flat panel for more space).

My question is this:  Is there a way to force apps, like Access, Outlook,
etc., to always open on the primary monitor?

It's possible to have Access on the secondary monitor and close it over
there and then open Access and it will appear to be not open.  I want to
avoid this.

Thanks.

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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Sun Nov 14 23:24:13 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 16:24:13 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Adding All to a List
Message-ID: <200411150524.iAF5OJdQ018582@cooper.uws.edu.au>

I know this has been done to death
I have done it many time using my code library
I have lost my libraries when my hard drive was hosed
and Drew's search on the archives timed me out
So...
If I want the text <ALL> to appear at the top of a legitimate list but it it
not
part of the recordset, how do I do it?
 
EG from a combo....
<ALL>
Michael
Stephen
Peter 
Susan
Zafir
 
etc
 
Many thanks
 
Darren
 


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Nov 14 23:36:19 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 15:36:19 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Adding All to a List
In-Reply-To: <200411150524.iAF5OJdQ018582@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <4198CCF3.23099.10E26E7B@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 15 Nov 2004 at 16:24, Darren DICK wrote:

> So...
> If I want the text <ALL> to appear at the top of a legitimate list but it it
> not
> part of the recordset, how do I do it?
>  

Use a Union query:

Select "<ALL>"  as FirstName 
from tblNames
UNION
Select FirstName from tblNames
-- 
Stuart




From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Nov 14 23:55:23 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 21:55:23 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Windows Digital Right Management Software
Message-ID: <01e701c4cad7$b31a4840$6501a8c0@HAL9002>

Does anybody know  anything about Microsoft "Digital Right Management Software" (DRM).  The Chinese distributor is suggesting it for copy protection in China.  Is it good?  Effective?  What's the downside?  Is it hard to use and manage?  What problems does it create for the user?

Any info will be appreciated.

Regards,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com



From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Nov 15 00:31:31 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 17:31:31 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Adding All to a List
In-Reply-To: <4198CCF3.23099.10E26E7B@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <200411150631.iAF6VbdR008361@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Stuart
As usual - You Da Man!!!!!!!!!

Many thanks
Darren
 

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Sent: Monday, 15 November 2004 4:36 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003:Adding All to a List

On 15 Nov 2004 at 16:24, Darren DICK wrote:

> So...
> If I want the text <ALL> to appear at the top of a legitimate list but 
> it it not part of the recordset, how do I do it?
>  

Use a Union query:

Select "<ALL>"  as FirstName 
from tblNames
UNION
Select FirstName from tblNames
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From lists at theopg.com  Mon Nov 15 03:37:54 2004
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 09:37:54 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables
In-Reply-To: <000801c4ca4a$86aecd90$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <000001c4caf6$c9626190$0e0b6bd5@netboxxp>

Thanks John

Mark

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Sent: 14 November 2004 13:05
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


It is my understanding that a join breaks down to (is interpreted as)
exactly that code anyway.

John W. Colby
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I never performance tested it and only used this method in migrations
etc. I'd be real interested to know what the limitations are...?

Mark (the other one)

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Mark
Sent: 11 November 2004 20:45
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


Thanks for the suggestion.  In this instance, since I'm dealing with <
10K records I wonder if efficiency would be noteworthy?


Mark




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Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 3:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
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Didn't read the whole thread so sorry if this has been done...

You don't need a join, you can just use criteria if you like (not
necessarilly very eficient though?)

E.g. "SELECT a.*, b.* FROM a, b WHERE a.col1=mid(b.col2,3)"

Hth

Mark

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Mark
Sent: 11 November 2004 13:35
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


Thank you all for the comments.

That is exactly what I ended up doing.  But since I lack the SQL "guru"
certification ;) I thought I'd put the question out there.  I was
thinking back to a thread a long while back regarding a method that
creates a sort of temporary table within one query...or something along
those lines.  I didn't know if/how that method might apply to my
situation.

Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 6:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


Hi Mark and Arthur

That may work but you'll be in trouble when trying to switch to design
view. I would create a query for Tbl2 with a field with the expression
needed to match the Tbl1.Fld1. Then use this query for Tbl1 whenever you
need to join Tbl1 and Tbl2.

/gustav


>>I have two tables I would like to join.  Tbl1.Fld1 contains a
>>variable-length string, Tbl2.Fld2 contains the same variable-length 
>>string concatenated with a variable-length suffix.
>>
>>Any suggestions on how to proceed?  Is there an elegant solution?
>>
>>Mark

> At first blush I would try this:
>
> SELECT * FROM T1 INNER JOIN T2 ON T1.Field1 = Left(T.2.Field1,
> LEN(T1.Field1))

> Arthur

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From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Mon Nov 15 08:06:52 2004
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 09:06:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place
In-Reply-To: <200411150136.iAF1a1dQ025733@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAOEGNCIAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

Thanks, Darren.

That does help.

I think I'll just deal with moving forms over when needed.  That two seconds
won't hurt me much.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren DICK
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 8:36 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place


Hi Reuben
I use an NVIDIA card also
What you are requesting is Driver dependant - though the NVIDIA Driver
manager does
Allow you to select what screen you want an app to open on.

Be wary though....
I had it happen once that I did some development work on a 'not centred'
form
Whilst I was in an NVIDIA 'wide screen' kinda setup.
When the form was opened at the customers place the form open up 'off the
screen'.
And of course it was set to modal so I had to CTRL ALT DEL

Did some very quick editing (Using the scroll bars to go 'off screen') drag
the form back,
edit something (I moved a label) and save the changes in the middle of the
customers only screen

So...bear this in mind when opening, designing and moving 'not centred'
popup type forms between screens.

What I do now is....all my form design work on the left screen (I have that
screen as monitor 1) and
all my code work (monitor 2) on the right. So it shouldn't matter when I am
at my customers with 1 screen

See ya -  hope this helps

DD



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Sent: Saturday, 13 November 2004 4:46 AM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place

It's an Nvidia card.

I'll check out the manager software.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


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Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 11:17 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place


What type of video card does it use?  My Matrox G400 and my nVidia FX5200
cards both have desktop manager software that allows me to specify which
screen an app starts in.

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Subject: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place


I am using split screens for the first time (I use my laptop screen plus a
flat panel for more space).

My question is this:  Is there a way to force apps, like Access, Outlook,
etc., to always open on the primary monitor?

It's possible to have Access on the secondary monitor and close it over
there and then open Access and it will appear to be not open.  I want to
avoid this.

Thanks.

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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Mon Nov 15 10:13:37 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 10:13:37 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Re: A2003: Filter Property
In-Reply-To: <200411121341.iACDfCL18404@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041115101159.01423e30@pop3.highstream.net>

But,

Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling = CDate(" & Me.txtStartDate & ")"

would, make that should, work with any of them.

You might also want to add me.refresh on the end of the sub.

Robert

At 07:41 AM 11/12/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:03:25 +1000
>From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003: Filter Property
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem    solving
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <4194987D.4043.759244 at lexacorp.com.pg>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
>On 11 Nov 2004 at 19:51, Susan Harkins wrote:
>
> > If the delimiters are the problem as Stuart suggests, you should be able to
> > use the following:
> >
> > Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling = #" & Me.txtStartDate & "#)"
> >
>
>Nope, Darren's an Aussie.
>
>Doing it that way gets the month and day reversed if he is using the
>default short date (today is 12/11/04, not 11/12/04 to us) and doesn't work
>at all if he using something like  "12 Nov 04" :-(
>
>--
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From rfv at entelix.com  Mon Nov 15 14:19:14 2004
From: rfv at entelix.com (rfv at entelix.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 14:19:14 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] How many Access installed worldwide?
Message-ID: <200411152022.iAFKMKL14695@databaseadvisors.com>

Hi,
Can anyobody tell me how many MS Access packages are installed worldwide?
 
Thnaks
 
 
Rudolf F. Vanek
 


From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Mon Nov 15 14:44:05 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 21:44:05 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] How many Access installed worldwide?
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B551B@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

I got a couple ones over here :-) 

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Hi,
Can anyobody tell me how many MS Access packages are installed
worldwide?
 
Thnaks
 
 
Rudolf F. Vanek
 
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Mon Nov 15 15:01:44 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 21:01:44 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] How many Access installed worldwide?
In-Reply-To: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B551B@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <002201c4cb56$50741f70$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

And I've 3 (boy this could take a while).

Sorry Rudolf, we're being facetious. But the question's a bit like how many
drops of water in the Pacific. Maybe MS know how many copies they have
registered but that's surely the tip of the iceberg.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

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> 
> 
> I got a couple ones over here :-) 
> 
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> 
> Hi,
> Can anyobody tell me how many MS Access packages are 
> installed worldwide?
>  
> Thnaks
>  
>  
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From mnptl at sonmedia.com  Mon Nov 15 18:43:47 2004
From: mnptl at sonmedia.com (mnptl at sonmedia.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 19:43:47 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [AccessD] Disabling the scrolling mouse in Access 97
Message-ID: <58067.10.235.219.133.1100565827.webmail@10.235.219.133>

My client is using Access 97, and we need to disable the scrolling
behaviour of the mouse wheel.  Does anyone know how to do this in Access
'97?

Mark






From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Nov 15 19:03:48 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 12:03:48 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Design Question
Message-ID: <200411160103.iAG13udQ009199@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Team
I Have a dB that holds data for both Clients (tblClients) and Franchises
(tblFranchises)
 
The tblClients holds all the usual client detail stuff - ClientID is the PK
(Autonumber)
tblFranchises holds various bits of information about any particular
franchise - FranchiseID is the PK (Autonumber)
 
So essentially 2 entity groups within the dB.
 
BUT my client does work for both the Franchises and individual Customers. 
In order to present both of them in a TimeBilling Screen I use a union query
to 'merge' both 
groups into a single combo
 
The problem is storing the PK correctly. eg say I select the 4th Franchise
in the list - it has a PK of 4
Well an entry on the client side will also have a PK of 4.
 
I am tossing up with various ways to deal with this including merging both
tables into one
table and just setting a flag to differentiate Clients from Franchises.
Of course I can have separate fields in the tblTimeBilling for FranchiseID
and for ClientID.
 
Just not sure what would be a sleek solution :-)) 
 
I am sure this is a common type of thing - I just wanted to know some
methods on 
how you guys deal with this sort of design question.
 
Many thanks
 
Darren
 


From Mark.Porter at acsalaska.com  Mon Nov 15 19:18:03 2004
From: Mark.Porter at acsalaska.com (Porter, Mark)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 16:18:03 -0900
Subject: [AccessD] How many Access installed worldwide?
Message-ID: <635B80FE6C7D5A409586A6A110D97D17217E62@ACSANCHOR.corp.acsalaska.com>

What version?

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Hi,
Can anyobody tell me how many MS Access packages are installed
worldwide?
 
Thnaks
 
 
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Nov 15 19:23:59 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 17:23:59 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Disabling the scrolling mouse in Access 97
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Check Lebans' site http://www.lebans.com/

Charlotte Foust


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My client is using Access 97, and we need to disable the scrolling
behaviour of the mouse wheel.  Does anyone know how to do this in Access
'97?

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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Nov 15 19:24:45 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 12:24:45 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Disabling the scrolling mouse in Access 97
In-Reply-To: <58067.10.235.219.133.1100565827.webmail@10.235.219.133>
Message-ID: <200411160124.iAG1OrdQ005494@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Mark
Have a look at Stephen Lebans web site

http://www.lebans.com/mousewheelonoff.htm

Hope this helps

See ya

Darren
 

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My client is using Access 97, and we need to disable the scrolling behaviour
of the mouse wheel.  Does anyone know how to do this in Access '97?

Mark




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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Nov 15 19:24:47 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:24:47 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Design Question
In-Reply-To: <200411160103.iAG13udQ009199@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <4199E37E.31769.1522713E@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 16 Nov 2004 at 12:03, Darren DICK wrote:

>  
> BUT my client does work for both the Franchises and individual Customers. 
> In order to present both of them in a TimeBilling Screen I use a union query
> to 'merge' both 
> groups into a single combo
>  
> The problem is storing the PK correctly. eg say I select the 4th Franchise
> in the list - it has a PK of 4
> Well an entry on the client side will also have a PK of 4.
>  
> I am tossing up with various ways to deal with this including merging both
> tables into one
> table and just setting a flag to differentiate Clients from Franchises.
> Of course I can have separate fields in the tblTimeBilling for FranchiseID
> and for ClientID.
>  

I'd probably go for a tblEntity with 3 fields:

ID
EntityType (Franchise or Client)
EntityID

You can then base your ComboBox on a query something like:

Select ID , IIF(EntityType = "F", FranchiseName,ClientName) as EntityName
>From tblEntities Left  Join tblFranchises ....... Left Join TblClients
 ......




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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Nov 15 20:24:55 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 13:24:55 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Design Question
In-Reply-To: <4199E37E.31769.1522713E@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <200411160225.iAG2P4dQ020224@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Stuart
Thanks for the reply
In your suggestion I would create a 3rd table called tblEntity - yes?
How does it get populated?

How would I store entries to the tblTimeBilling table.
IE in the union combo how would I store that PK 4 in this case is a
franchise
Not a client?

Many thanks

Darren


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Sent: Tuesday, 16 November 2004 12:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003: Design Question

On 16 Nov 2004 at 12:03, Darren DICK wrote:

>  
> BUT my client does work for both the Franchises and individual Customers. 
> In order to present both of them in a TimeBilling Screen I use a union 
> query to 'merge' both groups into a single combo
>  
> The problem is storing the PK correctly. eg say I select the 4th 
> Franchise in the list - it has a PK of 4 Well an entry on the client 
> side will also have a PK of 4.
>  
> I am tossing up with various ways to deal with this including merging 
> both tables into one table and just setting a flag to differentiate 
> Clients from Franchises.
> Of course I can have separate fields in the tblTimeBilling for 
> FranchiseID and for ClientID.
>  

I'd probably go for a tblEntity with 3 fields:

ID
EntityType (Franchise or Client)
EntityID

You can then base your ComboBox on a query something like:

Select ID , IIF(EntityType = "F", FranchiseName,ClientName) as EntityName
>From tblEntities Left  Join tblFranchises ....... Left Join TblClients
 ......




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From artful at rogers.com  Mon Nov 15 23:49:34 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 00:49:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Design Question
In-Reply-To: <200411160225.iAG2P4dQ020224@cooper.uws.edu.au>
References: <200411160225.iAG2P4dQ020224@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <419994EE.4020904@rogers.com>

Darren DICK wrote:

>Hi Stuart
>Thanks for the reply
>In your suggestion I would create a 3rd table called tblEntity - yes?
>How does it get populated?
>
>How would I store entries to the tblTimeBilling table.
>IE in the union combo how would I store that PK 4 in this case is a
>franchise
>Not a client?
>
>Many thanks
>
>Darren
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
>Sent: Tuesday, 16 November 2004 12:25 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003: Design Question
>
>On 16 Nov 2004 at 12:03, Darren DICK wrote:
>
>  
>
>> 
>>BUT my client does work for both the Franchises and individual Customers. 
>>In order to present both of them in a TimeBilling Screen I use a union 
>>query to 'merge' both groups into a single combo
>> 
>>The problem is storing the PK correctly. eg say I select the 4th 
>>Franchise in the list - it has a PK of 4 Well an entry on the client 
>>side will also have a PK of 4.
>> 
>>I am tossing up with various ways to deal with this including merging 
>>both tables into one table and just setting a flag to differentiate 
>>Clients from Franchises.
>>Of course I can have separate fields in the tblTimeBilling for 
>>FranchiseID and for ClientID.
>> 
>>    
>>
>
>I'd probably go for a tblEntity with 3 fields:
>
>ID
>EntityType (Franchise or Client)
>EntityID
>
>You can then base your ComboBox on a query something like:
>
>Select ID , IIF(EntityType = "F", FranchiseName,ClientName) as EntityName
>>From tblEntities Left  Join tblFranchises ....... Left Join TblClients
> ......
>
>
>
>
>--
>Stuart
>
>
>  
>
Is there a profitable reason to store these entities in different 
tables? There may well be, but in your problem description it is not 
apparent. If my hunch is correct, then you can put both Franchises and 
Customers in the same table, adding a flag to indicate which. There is 
the possibility however that an entity is both a Customer and a 
Franchise, in which case a boolean won't do, so replace it with a numeric.

Up side: much simpler combo selectors.
Down side: selecting only one or the other type demands hitting the 
whole table (unless the BE is SQL).

HTH,
Arthur


From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk  Tue Nov 16 05:25:14 2004
From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:25:14 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] cross-posted - sql dba services
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318805CED7A8@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Hi all

A couple of years ago I was recruiting for someone with SQL Server DBA
skills, and someone from accessd put his company forward to provide those
skills on a consultancy basis if I had trouble recruiting.

At that time I found someone who was very good, but as good people do, he
has now moved onwards & upwards to greater things. We are struggling to
replace him; is anyone on the list currently providing SQL DBA consultancy
in the North West of England? We have some potential projects coming up
which are beyond our in-house skill set, and it would be nice to know if
there is an alternative to hiring someone permanent.

Many thanks

Roz
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From joeget at vgernet.net  Tue Nov 16 05:47:18 2004
From: joeget at vgernet.net (John Eget)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 06:47:18 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] developer CD's for 2003
Message-ID: <000f01c4cbd2$0a192fd0$8ec2f63f@Desktop>

I want to deploy an access 2003 database and the customer is willing to purchase the development software.  I have the Office Development XP 7 CD set, but cannot find a similar product for Access 2003. Does anyone know the new name?

Thanks

John Eget

From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Tue Nov 16 06:13:38 2004
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 17:43:38 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Alternating background color in continuous forms?
References: <157240-220041131033556327@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <008801c4cbd5$ebb05150$e41865cb@winxp>

Christopher,

    You can see my sample db named HighLightDatasheetRows at Rogers Access Library (other developers section). Link - 
http://www.rogersaccesslibrary.com

    This db demonstrates two styles of highlighting - (i) Current Row and (ii) Alternate Rows. Some interesting features are -

    (a) Anchor Row - In both alternatives, user can pinpoint any row as an anchor row (if desired), by double clicking on it. The anchor row gets highlighted in a special color and continues in this state, till some other row is pinpointed as the new anchor row. If any existing anchor row is to be put back to normal (without pinpointing a new one), simply double click it again.
    
    (b) - In case of alternate row highlighting, the form, on opening, has color on odd rows. For replacing it with color on even rows, simply double click on any even numbered row. For reverting back to color on odd numbered rows, double click on any odd numbered row.

    Note - The technique used is completely non-obtrusive. It does not need any special field (e.g. Yes/No or counter etc) to be added to the source table. No updating or editing of any bound control is involved. No label or unbound text box is used. Only requirement is that the source table should have a field holding unique values.

    You might like to adapt the underlying approach suitably for your specific needs. (The arrangement demonstrated for datasheets is applicable to continuous forms as well). 

Regards,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Christopher Hawkins 
  To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 09:05
  Subject: [AccessD] Alternating background color in continuous forms?


  Greetings, all!

  I want to do something kind of fun.  I am trying to figure out how to do alternating background colors in a continuous form.  I was looking at conditional formatting in Access 2002, but am not sure how to work out an expression that will do the trick.

  I am also looking a doing it programmatically, but I think I'd have to do some heavy subclassing, which isn't worth the work just for eye candy.

  Surely someone must have done this before.  Can anyone either offer sugestons on how to figure it out, or post actual code?  I'll be sure to give proper credit when it's time to submit the results to the UI Hall of Fame.  ;)

  -Christopher-
  Respectfully,

  Christopher Hawkins
  Software Developer
  (559) 687-7591
  http://www.christopherhawkins.com


From jmoss111 at bellsouth.net  Tue Nov 16 07:22:19 2004
From: jmoss111 at bellsouth.net (James Moss)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 07:22:19 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] developer CD's for 2003
In-Reply-To: <000f01c4cbd2$0a192fd0$8ec2f63f@Desktop>
Message-ID: <20041116132203.CBQZ19872.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@jmoss3>

 John,

You will be looking for Microsoft Visual Studio Tools for Office 2003. I
just purchased the upgrade at Amazon for $179.99. You don't have to have
visual studio to use it.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Eget
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 5:47 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] developer CD's for 2003

I want to deploy an access 2003 database and the customer is willing to
purchase the development software.  I have the Office Development XP 7 CD
set, but cannot find a similar product for Access 2003. Does anyone know the
new name?

Thanks

John Eget
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Tue Nov 16 08:39:20 2004
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:39:20 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Design Question
Message-ID: <BAY101-F25pU6q5ijb10000c98d@hotmail.com>

Darren,

I've done something similar in the past...not sure if this will 
help...but...if you are using a union, your union knows where it is getting 
the data.  Why not create a field(Entity) in the union that differentiates 
the data.  Here is an example.

SELECT tblClient.PK, "Client" AS Entity, tblClient.Data, tblClient.MoreData
FROM tblClient
ORDER BY tblClient.PK, "Client"
WITH OWNERACCESS OPTION;

UNION SELECT tblFranchise.PK,"Franchise" AS Entity, tblFranchise.Data, 
tblFranchise.MoreData
FROM tblFranchise
WITH OWNERACCESS OPTION;

Hope this helps.

Mark A. Matte

>From: "Darren DICK" <d.dick at uws.edu.au>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003: Design Question
>Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 13:24:55 +1100
>
>Hi Stuart
>Thanks for the reply
>In your suggestion I would create a 3rd table called tblEntity - yes?
>How does it get populated?
>
>How would I store entries to the tblTimeBilling table.
>IE in the union combo how would I store that PK 4 in this case is a
>franchise
>Not a client?
>
>Many thanks
>
>Darren
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
>Sent: Tuesday, 16 November 2004 12:25 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003: Design Question
>
>On 16 Nov 2004 at 12:03, Darren DICK wrote:
>
> >
> > BUT my client does work for both the Franchises and individual 
>Customers.
> > In order to present both of them in a TimeBilling Screen I use a union
> > query to 'merge' both groups into a single combo
> >
> > The problem is storing the PK correctly. eg say I select the 4th
> > Franchise in the list - it has a PK of 4 Well an entry on the client
> > side will also have a PK of 4.
> >
> > I am tossing up with various ways to deal with this including merging
> > both tables into one table and just setting a flag to differentiate
> > Clients from Franchises.
> > Of course I can have separate fields in the tblTimeBilling for
> > FranchiseID and for ClientID.
> >
>
>I'd probably go for a tblEntity with 3 fields:
>
>ID
>EntityType (Franchise or Client)
>EntityID
>
>You can then base your ComboBox on a query something like:
>
>Select ID , IIF(EntityType = "F", FranchiseName,ClientName) as EntityName
> >From tblEntities Left  Join tblFranchises ....... Left Join TblClients
>  ......
>
>
>
>
>--
>Stuart
>
>
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From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Nov 16 08:59:14 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:59:14 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF98C@DISABILITYINS01>

I learned a long time ago that you could retrieve a value from a single
record recordset using syntax like:

    strInvAlt = db.OpenRecordset(strSQL)!TopExpense

where you don't dim a recordset, you just opened the recordset using
db.openrecordset() and then referenced a field of the recordset with the
!SomeField syntax.

My question is, the recordset itself is never assigned to a dimmed recordset
object.  Furthermore there is no db.CloseRecordset() syntax.  Does the
recordset just stay open until the database object itself is closed or is
used to open a different recordset?

I have a situation where I would dim a database object in the form header
and set that database object in OnOpen (to save the time it takes to Set
DB), then use this syntax to retrieve a value in OnCurrent.  I don't want
the recordset hanging out there though.  In thinking this through it seems
that if the db is not dimmed / set each time in the OnCurrent then I should
NOT use this syntax, but rather dim / set a recordset object as well in the
form header / OnOpen and then set the recordset object in the OnCurrent,
grab the field value and explicitly close the recordset (but NOT set the
recordset object = nothing)

Did that make any sense?  Thoughts on the subject?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy



From Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us  Tue Nov 16 09:28:49 2004
From: Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us (O'Connor, Patricia (OTDA))
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 10:28:49 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] ODBC against Oracle partitioned db
Message-ID: <B94C79B465542042AB0748EAF37F9AC0A427B1@EXCNYSM0A1AB.nysemail.nyenet>

Hi all

When I use the Oracle ODBC driver against an ORACLE un-partitioned table
from Access (either passthru or gui), I have not problem. Data comes
back can scroll through 1-30+K records no problem.  

When I use same driver against an Oracle partitioned table from access,
I get temporary freeze ups when scrolling through records even scrolling
from column 1 to say col 10 on screen. It doesn't matter how many
records in set - scroll down 3-6 records - stop. Sometimes the stall can
be 2-5 minutes. 

Doesn't matter if it is the only thing running on computer. I do not
have this problem with an unpartioned set.  I waste a good amount of
time waiting for access to let me back in. 

Has anyone run into this and is there a workaround or setting I need to
change in the driver configuration.  My machine is Win2k, Access2k,
Oracle10

Thanks in advance
Patti

******************************************************************
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*Associate Computer Programmer Analyst
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 16 09:55:54 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 07:55:54 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?
In-Reply-To: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF98C@DISABILITYINS01>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLICEDFCIAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi John:

There is a default recordset created when a form is opened and can be used
in all sorts of ways. When a bound form is opened the recordset is
pre-filled. You can access and use it like:

Dim rs as Object

Set rs = Me.Recordset.Clone
rs.FindFirst "[ContractNumber] = '" & Me![cmbFindContractNumber] & "'"
If Not rs.EOF Then Me.Bookmark = rs.Bookmark

When the form is closed both of the recordsets are automatically closed as a
clone can not exist without it's 'original'.

Your code is just another way of accessing it.

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 6:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?


I learned a long time ago that you could retrieve a value from a single
record recordset using syntax like:

    strInvAlt = db.OpenRecordset(strSQL)!TopExpense

where you don't dim a recordset, you just opened the recordset using
db.openrecordset() and then referenced a field of the recordset with the
!SomeField syntax.

My question is, the recordset itself is never assigned to a dimmed recordset
object.  Furthermore there is no db.CloseRecordset() syntax.  Does the
recordset just stay open until the database object itself is closed or is
used to open a different recordset?

I have a situation where I would dim a database object in the form header
and set that database object in OnOpen (to save the time it takes to Set
DB), then use this syntax to retrieve a value in OnCurrent.  I don't want
the recordset hanging out there though.  In thinking this through it seems
that if the db is not dimmed / set each time in the OnCurrent then I should
NOT use this syntax, but rather dim / set a recordset object as well in the
form header / OnOpen and then set the recordset object in the OnCurrent,
grab the field value and explicitly close the recordset (but NOT set the
recordset object = nothing)

Did that make any sense?  Thoughts on the subject?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy

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From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Nov 16 10:33:17 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:33:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF98D@DISABILITYINS01>

Actually I am accessing related data in another table entirely (child).  I
know about the recordsetclone.  

What I am doing is...

DIS has people / companies invoice them where the invoice does not have an
invoice number.  If there is an invoice number, we put it in the memo field
of the generated check (out in Quickbooks).  If there is no invoice number
provided, we create one with a DISXXX where XXX is just an incrementing
number.  

The issue is that the idiots that don't provide an invoice number call us up
complaining that they don't know what the check is for.  So.... 

The invoice is for a set of related expenses (for a given claim).  Since the
expense is child to the Invoice (a line item of the Invoice), I want to go
get the first expense (line item) and copy the description into a field up
in the invoice.  That description will now be printed on the check memo
field so that they at least can go looking for the expense description (they
provide us) and try to cut down on the calls from idiots.

It is incredible to me that a company mails an invoice without an invoice
number.  HELLO!!!  ANYONE HOME OUT THERE?  And then they complain when they
can't figure out what the payment is for.

The stupids are ganging up on us!

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 10:56 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?


Hi John:

There is a default recordset created when a form is opened and can be used
in all sorts of ways. When a bound form is opened the recordset is
pre-filled. You can access and use it like:

Dim rs as Object

Set rs = Me.Recordset.Clone
rs.FindFirst "[ContractNumber] = '" & Me![cmbFindContractNumber] & "'"
If Not rs.EOF Then Me.Bookmark = rs.Bookmark

When the form is closed both of the recordsets are automatically closed as a
clone can not exist without it's 'original'.

Your code is just another way of accessing it.

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 6:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?


I learned a long time ago that you could retrieve a value from a single
record recordset using syntax like:

    strInvAlt = db.OpenRecordset(strSQL)!TopExpense

where you don't dim a recordset, you just opened the recordset using
db.openrecordset() and then referenced a field of the recordset with the
!SomeField syntax.

My question is, the recordset itself is never assigned to a dimmed recordset
object.  Furthermore there is no db.CloseRecordset() syntax.  Does the
recordset just stay open until the database object itself is closed or is
used to open a different recordset?

I have a situation where I would dim a database object in the form header
and set that database object in OnOpen (to save the time it takes to Set
DB), then use this syntax to retrieve a value in OnCurrent.  I don't want
the recordset hanging out there though.  In thinking this through it seems
that if the db is not dimmed / set each time in the OnCurrent then I should
NOT use this syntax, but rather dim / set a recordset object as well in the
form header / OnOpen and then set the recordset object in the OnCurrent,
grab the field value and explicitly close the recordset (but NOT set the
recordset object = nothing)

Did that make any sense?  Thoughts on the subject?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Nov 16 11:01:14 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:01:14 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B7F@infoserver01.infostat.local>

John,

I believe the recordset generated in passing as you did it, goes out of
scope with the database object it was created on.  You haven't
instantiated the recordset object, so it has no separate existence.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 6:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?


I learned a long time ago that you could retrieve a value from a single
record recordset using syntax like:

    strInvAlt = db.OpenRecordset(strSQL)!TopExpense

where you don't dim a recordset, you just opened the recordset using
db.openrecordset() and then referenced a field of the recordset with the
!SomeField syntax.

My question is, the recordset itself is never assigned to a dimmed
recordset object.  Furthermore there is no db.CloseRecordset() syntax.
Does the recordset just stay open until the database object itself is
closed or is used to open a different recordset?

I have a situation where I would dim a database object in the form
header and set that database object in OnOpen (to save the time it takes
to Set DB), then use this syntax to retrieve a value in OnCurrent.  I
don't want the recordset hanging out there though.  In thinking this
through it seems that if the db is not dimmed / set each time in the
OnCurrent then I should NOT use this syntax, but rather dim / set a
recordset object as well in the form header / OnOpen and then set the
recordset object in the OnCurrent, grab the field value and explicitly
close the recordset (but NOT set the recordset object = nothing)

Did that make any sense?  Thoughts on the subject?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy

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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Tue Nov 16 11:08:28 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:08:28 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08653F5F62@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

John,

The Database object instantiates a Recordset to return the field value
for you.  Since the Recordset instance is not assigned to a variable, it
is instantly out of scope and VBA's garbage collection will
automatically destroy and cleanup its instance.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 8:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?


I learned a long time ago that you could retrieve a value from a single
record recordset using syntax like:

    strInvAlt = db.OpenRecordset(strSQL)!TopExpense

where you don't dim a recordset, you just opened the recordset using
db.openrecordset() and then referenced a field of the recordset with the
!SomeField syntax.

My question is, the recordset itself is never assigned to a dimmed
recordset
object.  Furthermore there is no db.CloseRecordset() syntax.  Does the
recordset just stay open until the database object itself is closed or
is
used to open a different recordset?

I have a situation where I would dim a database object in the form
header
and set that database object in OnOpen (to save the time it takes to Set
DB), then use this syntax to retrieve a value in OnCurrent.  I don't
want
the recordset hanging out there though.  In thinking this through it
seems
that if the db is not dimmed / set each time in the OnCurrent then I
should
NOT use this syntax, but rather dim / set a recordset object as well in
the
form header / OnOpen and then set the recordset object in the OnCurrent,
grab the field value and explicitly close the recordset (but NOT set the
recordset object = nothing)

Did that make any sense?  Thoughts on the subject?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


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From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Nov 16 11:12:54 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 12:12:54 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF98E@DISABILITYINS01>

Precisely, but I am dimming the db object in the form header and setting it
in the form's OnOpen to save the time of doing that in OnCurrent.  Thus it
never goes out of scope till the form closes (set = nothing in OnClose).

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 12:01 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?


John,

I believe the recordset generated in passing as you did it, goes out of
scope with the database object it was created on.  You haven't
instantiated the recordset object, so it has no separate existence.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 6:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?


I learned a long time ago that you could retrieve a value from a single
record recordset using syntax like:

    strInvAlt = db.OpenRecordset(strSQL)!TopExpense

where you don't dim a recordset, you just opened the recordset using
db.openrecordset() and then referenced a field of the recordset with the
!SomeField syntax.

My question is, the recordset itself is never assigned to a dimmed
recordset object.  Furthermore there is no db.CloseRecordset() syntax.
Does the recordset just stay open until the database object itself is
closed or is used to open a different recordset?

I have a situation where I would dim a database object in the form
header and set that database object in OnOpen (to save the time it takes
to Set DB), then use this syntax to retrieve a value in OnCurrent.  I
don't want the recordset hanging out there though.  In thinking this
through it seems that if the db is not dimmed / set each time in the
OnCurrent then I should NOT use this syntax, but rather dim / set a
recordset object as well in the form header / OnOpen and then set the
recordset object in the OnCurrent, grab the field value and explicitly
close the recordset (but NOT set the recordset object = nothing)

Did that make any sense?  Thoughts on the subject?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy

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From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Nov 16 11:26:25 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 12:26:25 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF98F@DISABILITYINS01>

IOW similar to a function which returns a variable, when the value returned
by that function is not stored, the returned value is destroyed.

Makes sense.  Of course "VBA's garbage collection will automatically destroy
and cleanup its instance" is enough to give me pause...

<grin>

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Brett Barabash [mailto:BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 12:08 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?


John,

The Database object instantiates a Recordset to return the field value
for you.  Since the Recordset instance is not assigned to a variable, it
is instantly out of scope and VBA's garbage collection will
automatically destroy and cleanup its instance.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 8:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?


I learned a long time ago that you could retrieve a value from a single
record recordset using syntax like:

    strInvAlt = db.OpenRecordset(strSQL)!TopExpense

where you don't dim a recordset, you just opened the recordset using
db.openrecordset() and then referenced a field of the recordset with the
!SomeField syntax.

My question is, the recordset itself is never assigned to a dimmed
recordset
object.  Furthermore there is no db.CloseRecordset() syntax.  Does the
recordset just stay open until the database object itself is closed or
is
used to open a different recordset?

I have a situation where I would dim a database object in the form
header
and set that database object in OnOpen (to save the time it takes to Set
DB), then use this syntax to retrieve a value in OnCurrent.  I don't
want
the recordset hanging out there though.  In thinking this through it
seems
that if the db is not dimmed / set each time in the OnCurrent then I
should
NOT use this syntax, but rather dim / set a recordset object as well in
the
form header / OnOpen and then set the recordset object in the OnCurrent,
grab the field value and explicitly close the recordset (but NOT set the
recordset object = nothing)

Did that make any sense?  Thoughts on the subject?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Tue Nov 16 12:30:59 2004
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 13:30:59 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] duplicates question * can't find in archives
Message-ID: <s19a0187.065@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

I have been searching archives, but I can't find this yet...

I am rewriting a DB that was originally done on a Unix box. I have
imported their data and I am trying to make it fit my scheme. Their way
(the old way) was to enter all information again and again and again.
This DB is tracking residents going to school out of district (I guess
there is some reimbursement from home county) and each semester they
enter SSN, Name, School, etc..

I am making the student screen so that once the SSN, Name, & Address is
entered, the rest is entered in a subform. So I think I need to take the
current table and break it down into two tables. I will have to rid the
student table of all dups and somehow link the other table...the new
tbl_stntdata table...to the tblStudent table.

How do I get rid of all the dups? Or can I? Maybe I'll just tell them
that they'll have to go "day forward."


From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 16 12:48:47 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 10:48:47 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?
In-Reply-To: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF98D@DISABILITYINS01>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIEEDJCIAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi John:

Scary...I guess they have not been audited yet. To my understanding only
cash-sales do not officially require a invoice number but all sales must
have an internal audit number. Even deleted or destroyed transactions must
be saved or archived. Of course the USA IRS may not be as ruthless..?

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 8:33 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?


Actually I am accessing related data in another table entirely (child).  I
know about the recordsetclone.

What I am doing is...

DIS has people / companies invoice them where the invoice does not have an
invoice number.  If there is an invoice number, we put it in the memo field
of the generated check (out in Quickbooks).  If there is no invoice number
provided, we create one with a DISXXX where XXX is just an incrementing
number.

The issue is that the idiots that don't provide an invoice number call us up
complaining that they don't know what the check is for.  So....

The invoice is for a set of related expenses (for a given claim).  Since the
expense is child to the Invoice (a line item of the Invoice), I want to go
get the first expense (line item) and copy the description into a field up
in the invoice.  That description will now be printed on the check memo
field so that they at least can go looking for the expense description (they
provide us) and try to cut down on the calls from idiots.

It is incredible to me that a company mails an invoice without an invoice
number.  HELLO!!!  ANYONE HOME OUT THERE?  And then they complain when they
can't figure out what the payment is for.

The stupids are ganging up on us!

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 10:56 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?


Hi John:

There is a default recordset created when a form is opened and can be used
in all sorts of ways. When a bound form is opened the recordset is
pre-filled. You can access and use it like:

Dim rs as Object

Set rs = Me.Recordset.Clone
rs.FindFirst "[ContractNumber] = '" & Me![cmbFindContractNumber] & "'"
If Not rs.EOF Then Me.Bookmark = rs.Bookmark

When the form is closed both of the recordsets are automatically closed as a
clone can not exist without it's 'original'.

Your code is just another way of accessing it.

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 6:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?


I learned a long time ago that you could retrieve a value from a single
record recordset using syntax like:

    strInvAlt = db.OpenRecordset(strSQL)!TopExpense

where you don't dim a recordset, you just opened the recordset using
db.openrecordset() and then referenced a field of the recordset with the
!SomeField syntax.

My question is, the recordset itself is never assigned to a dimmed recordset
object.  Furthermore there is no db.CloseRecordset() syntax.  Does the
recordset just stay open until the database object itself is closed or is
used to open a different recordset?

I have a situation where I would dim a database object in the form header
and set that database object in OnOpen (to save the time it takes to Set
DB), then use this syntax to retrieve a value in OnCurrent.  I don't want
the recordset hanging out there though.  In thinking this through it seems
that if the db is not dimmed / set each time in the OnCurrent then I should
NOT use this syntax, but rather dim / set a recordset object as well in the
form header / OnOpen and then set the recordset object in the OnCurrent,
grab the field value and explicitly close the recordset (but NOT set the
recordset object = nothing)

Did that make any sense?  Thoughts on the subject?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy

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From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Nov 16 12:59:14 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 13:59:14 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] duplicates question * can't find in archives
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF990@DISABILITYINS01>

You can but... the probability of dirty data is 100%.  IOW, the probability
that they mis-spelled things they were typing in over and over will make the
process of normalization somewhat more painful than dentistry sans Novocain.

If you still want to, say so and I will provide info on the "how to".

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: John Clark [mailto:John.Clark at niagaracounty.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 1:31 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] duplicates question * can't find in archives


I have been searching archives, but I can't find this yet...

I am rewriting a DB that was originally done on a Unix box. I have
imported their data and I am trying to make it fit my scheme. Their way
(the old way) was to enter all information again and again and again.
This DB is tracking residents going to school out of district (I guess
there is some reimbursement from home county) and each semester they
enter SSN, Name, School, etc..

I am making the student screen so that once the SSN, Name, & Address is
entered, the rest is entered in a subform. So I think I need to take the
current table and break it down into two tables. I will have to rid the
student table of all dups and somehow link the other table...the new
tbl_stntdata table...to the tblStudent table.

How do I get rid of all the dups? Or can I? Maybe I'll just tell them
that they'll have to go "day forward."
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From JHewson at karta.com  Tue Nov 16 13:08:35 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 13:08:35 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] duplicates question * can't find in archives
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068CC7@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

My first thought: is to duplicate the student table and rename it to tbl_stndata.
Change the old PK to a FK.  Add a new PK.
Run a duplicate query on the student data table, change the FK to one of those showing.
After that's done, then delete the fields no longer needed.
Delete all the records duplicated/deleted from the Student table.
For example, if records 24, 125, 156 were referencing the same student.
The records 125 and 156 could be deleted in the student table and the FK changed to 24 in the student data table.
Once both tables have been modified a relationship could be established.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 12:31 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] duplicates question * can't find in archives


I have been searching archives, but I can't find this yet...

I am rewriting a DB that was originally done on a Unix box. I have
imported their data and I am trying to make it fit my scheme. Their way
(the old way) was to enter all information again and again and again.
This DB is tracking residents going to school out of district (I guess
there is some reimbursement from home county) and each semester they
enter SSN, Name, School, etc..

I am making the student screen so that once the SSN, Name, & Address is
entered, the rest is entered in a subform. So I think I need to take the
current table and break it down into two tables. I will have to rid the
student table of all dups and somehow link the other table...the new
tbl_stntdata table...to the tblStudent table.

How do I get rid of all the dups? Or can I? Maybe I'll just tell them
that they'll have to go "day forward."
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From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Nov 16 13:10:12 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:10:12 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF991@DISABILITYINS01>

>Of course the USA IRS may not be as ruthless

LOL.  The IRS is indeed known for being ruthless...

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 1:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?


Hi John:

Scary...I guess they have not been audited yet. To my understanding only
cash-sales do not officially require a invoice number but all sales must
have an internal audit number. Even deleted or destroyed transactions must
be saved or archived. Of course the USA IRS may not be as ruthless..?

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 8:33 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?


Actually I am accessing related data in another table entirely (child).  I
know about the recordsetclone.

What I am doing is...

DIS has people / companies invoice them where the invoice does not have an
invoice number.  If there is an invoice number, we put it in the memo field
of the generated check (out in Quickbooks).  If there is no invoice number
provided, we create one with a DISXXX where XXX is just an incrementing
number.

The issue is that the idiots that don't provide an invoice number call us up
complaining that they don't know what the check is for.  So....

The invoice is for a set of related expenses (for a given claim).  Since the
expense is child to the Invoice (a line item of the Invoice), I want to go
get the first expense (line item) and copy the description into a field up
in the invoice.  That description will now be printed on the check memo
field so that they at least can go looking for the expense description (they
provide us) and try to cut down on the calls from idiots.

It is incredible to me that a company mails an invoice without an invoice
number.  HELLO!!!  ANYONE HOME OUT THERE?  And then they complain when they
can't figure out what the payment is for.

The stupids are ganging up on us!

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 10:56 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?


Hi John:

There is a default recordset created when a form is opened and can be used
in all sorts of ways. When a bound form is opened the recordset is
pre-filled. You can access and use it like:

Dim rs as Object

Set rs = Me.Recordset.Clone
rs.FindFirst "[ContractNumber] = '" & Me![cmbFindContractNumber] & "'"
If Not rs.EOF Then Me.Bookmark = rs.Bookmark

When the form is closed both of the recordsets are automatically closed as a
clone can not exist without it's 'original'.

Your code is just another way of accessing it.

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 6:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?


I learned a long time ago that you could retrieve a value from a single
record recordset using syntax like:

    strInvAlt = db.OpenRecordset(strSQL)!TopExpense

where you don't dim a recordset, you just opened the recordset using
db.openrecordset() and then referenced a field of the recordset with the
!SomeField syntax.

My question is, the recordset itself is never assigned to a dimmed recordset
object.  Furthermore there is no db.CloseRecordset() syntax.  Does the
recordset just stay open until the database object itself is closed or is
used to open a different recordset?

I have a situation where I would dim a database object in the form header
and set that database object in OnOpen (to save the time it takes to Set
DB), then use this syntax to retrieve a value in OnCurrent.  I don't want
the recordset hanging out there though.  In thinking this through it seems
that if the db is not dimmed / set each time in the OnCurrent then I should
NOT use this syntax, but rather dim / set a recordset object as well in the
form header / OnOpen and then set the recordset object in the OnCurrent,
grab the field value and explicitly close the recordset (but NOT set the
recordset object = nothing)

Did that make any sense?  Thoughts on the subject?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy

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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Tue Nov 16 13:50:41 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 13:50:41 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Re: A2003: Design Question
In-Reply-To: <200411161801.iAGI1FL01389@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041116134552.013eceb0@pop3.highstream.net>

The "sleek" solution is to design the database correctly.  :-)

tblParty
PartyID  Autonumber (pk)
PartyFullName
PartyFirstName
PartyMiddleName
PartyLastName
etc.....

If a client can also be a franchise, then you would need a table to break 
out the PartyType.

tblPartyType
PartyTypeID  Autonumber (PK)
PartyID  long integer  (fk)
PartyType   text(20)

Otherwise, add PartyType to tblParty.  By doing this, you can populate the 
TimeBilling table with which ever and never worry about it.

Robert

At 12:01 PM 11/16/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 12:03:48 +1100
>From: "Darren DICK" <d.dick at uws.edu.au>
>Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Design Question
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <200411160103.iAG13udQ009199 at cooper.uws.edu.au>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>Hi Team
>I Have a dB that holds data for both Clients (tblClients) and Franchises
>(tblFranchises)
>
>The tblClients holds all the usual client detail stuff - ClientID is the PK
>(Autonumber)
>tblFranchises holds various bits of information about any particular
>franchise - FranchiseID is the PK (Autonumber)
>
>So essentially 2 entity groups within the dB.
>
>BUT my client does work for both the Franchises and individual Customers.
>In order to present both of them in a TimeBilling Screen I use a union query
>to 'merge' both
>groups into a single combo
>
>The problem is storing the PK correctly. eg say I select the 4th Franchise
>in the list - it has a PK of 4
>Well an entry on the client side will also have a PK of 4.
>
>I am tossing up with various ways to deal with this including merging both
>tables into one
>table and just setting a flag to differentiate Clients from Franchises.
>Of course I can have separate fields in the tblTimeBilling for FranchiseID
>and for ClientID.
>
>Just not sure what would be a sleek solution :-))
>
>I am sure this is a common type of thing - I just wanted to know some
>methods on
>how you guys deal with this sort of design question.
>
>Many thanks
>
>Darren
>




From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Nov 16 13:53:40 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:53:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Setting the LinkMaster/Child field
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF992@DISABILITYINS01>

In code I am attempting to set the LinkChildFields and LinkMasterFields
properties of the subform control.  I get a runtime error 2101 "The setting
you entered isn't valid for this property" even though if I go back and look
at the property it is set to the value I placed in it.  Has anyone
encountered this?  

It appears that this is a string property (text) which is interpreted by the
control at subform load time.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy



From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Tue Nov 16 13:55:59 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 13:55:59 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Re: ODBC against Oracle partitioned db
In-Reply-To: <200411161801.iAGI1FL01389@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041116135414.01419f28@pop3.highstream.net>

As you can see, Access and the ODBC driver has trouble with a partioned table.

Use Toad or something like it for the type of things you would do in 
running queries and viewing data.  Since it is written for Oracle, it plays 
with it better.

Robert

At 12:01 PM 11/16/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 10:28:49 -0500
>From: "O'Connor, Patricia \(OTDA\)"
>         <Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us>
>Subject: [AccessD] ODBC against Oracle partitioned db
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID:
>         <B94C79B465542042AB0748EAF37F9AC0A427B1 at EXCNYSM0A1AB.nysemail.nyenet>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>Hi all
>
>When I use the Oracle ODBC driver against an ORACLE un-partitioned table
>from Access (either passthru or gui), I have not problem. Data comes
>back can scroll through 1-30+K records no problem.
>
>When I use same driver against an Oracle partitioned table from access,
>I get temporary freeze ups when scrolling through records even scrolling
>from column 1 to say col 10 on screen. It doesn't matter how many
>records in set - scroll down 3-6 records - stop. Sometimes the stall can
>be 2-5 minutes.
>
>Doesn't matter if it is the only thing running on computer. I do not
>have this problem with an unpartioned set.  I waste a good amount of
>time waiting for access to let me back in.
>
>Has anyone run into this and is there a workaround or setting I need to
>change in the driver configuration.  My machine is Win2k, Access2k,
>Oracle10
>
>Thanks in advance
>Patti




From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Nov 16 16:10:05 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:10:05 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Setting the LinkMaster/Child field
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8679D176@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Yes, I have.  I found that this tends to happen when there is already a
string in the property, so I got around it by testing for an existing
string.  Also, be careful what event you're trying to use to set the
property.  Don't try to set the links in the Open event of the parent
form, although you can set the subform object there.  You can set both
in the Load event of the form, however.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 11:54 AM
To: 'AccessD at DatabaseAdvisors.com'
Subject: [AccessD] Setting the LinkMaster/Child field


In code I am attempting to set the LinkChildFields and LinkMasterFields
properties of the subform control.  I get a runtime error 2101 "The
setting you entered isn't valid for this property" even though if I go
back and look at the property it is set to the value I placed in it.
Has anyone encountered this?  

It appears that this is a string property (text) which is interpreted by
the control at subform load time.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy

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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Tue Nov 16 22:03:08 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 15:03:08 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
Message-ID: <200411170403.iAH43JdQ023690@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hello all
I have an educational client who has a CD full of Education URL's (Zillion's
of 'em)
Occasionally someone has to test to see if the links are broken or not
(Manually <yuk>)
 
I thought this would be a perfect application for Access
Set up a table of URLs and loop through 'em and return TRUE or FALSE
 
So...Is there a way I can type in say...http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
and return "true" if the site exists or "false" if the site does not exist.
 
I know I can ping http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
<http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au/>  and get a result
but how would I capture the ping 'reply' from DOS to a table?
 
Or...if any of you already have a method they would like to share them
please let me know
 
Make sense??
 
See ya 
 
Darren
 


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Nov 17 00:04:51 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:04:51 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
In-Reply-To: <200411170403.iAH43JdQ023690@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <419B76A3.10791.1B493706@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 17 Nov 2004 at 15:03, Darren DICK wrote:

>  
> So...Is there a way I can type in say...http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
> and return "true" if the site exists or "false" if the site does not exist.
>  
> I know I can ping http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
> <http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au/>  and get a result
> but how would I capture the ping 'reply' from DOS to a table?
>  
> Or...if any of you already have a method they would like to share them
> please let me know
>  

Are they all domains or are some of them links to pages?  If the latter, 
you need to test whether the domain is valid (using DNS lookup) and also 
test whether a link valid is valid (ie look for 404 messages in response to 
HTTP requests).  In other words you will have to write your own HTTP engine 
:-(

That will still not detect links that point to "parked" domains (take a 
look at http://www.airniugini.com as an example of a parked domain)










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From Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk  Wed Nov 17 03:29:12 2004
From: Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk (Paul Rodgers)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:29:12 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] IMESentenceMode gremlin
Message-ID: <EAF3070ACB1AD81182280002A51EF731192362@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>

A slight change to a cmd button on a form has Access offering a fault, 'You
entered an expression that has an invalid reference to the  property
IMESentenceMode'. 

The debug highlight is of an unrelated, unchanged piece of code.
 
Anyone been here, please, and answered this seemingly strange error. Cheers
paul 



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov 17 03:35:40 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:35:40 +0100
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
Message-ID: <s19b2989.010@cactus.dk>

Hi Darren
 
We use these functions:
 
<code module>
 
Private Declare Function URLDownloadToFile Lib "urlmon" Alias
"URLDownloadToFileA" ( _
  ByVal pCaller As Long, _
  ByVal szURL As String, _
  ByVal szFileName As String, _
  ByVal dwReserved As Long, _
  ByVal lpfnCB As Long) _
  As Long

Public Function IsURL(ByVal strURL As String) As Boolean
 
' Usage: Check if URL strURL is alive and reachable.
'   booURL = IsURL("http://www.ibm.com")
'   booURL = IsURL("ftp://ftp.novell.com")
'
' Note: Protocol header like "http://" must be provided.
'
' 2001-12-09. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.
 
  ' File found at most URLs.
  Const cstrFileIndex As String = "index.htm"
 
  IsURL = (URLDownloadToFile(0, strURL, cstrFileIndex, 0, 0) = 0)
  
End Function

</code module>
 
If your URLs contains html document name you will have to modify the
code to use that and not append index.html.
 
/gustav

>>> d.dick at uws.edu.au 17-11-2004 05:03:08 >>>

I have an educational client who has a CD full of Education URL's
(Zillion's of 'em)
Occasionally someone has to test to see if the links are broken or not
(Manually <yuk>)

I thought this would be a perfect application for Access
Set up a table of URLs and loop through 'em and return TRUE or FALSE

So...Is there a way I can type in
say...http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
and return "true" if the site exists or "false" if the site does not
exist.
 


From actebs at actebs.com.au  Wed Nov 17 04:57:23 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 21:57:23 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Cool Date Picker
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD5055833280886D7@starfleet.unknown.local>

Guys,

I remember ages ago someone had developed a really cool date picker that did not require an ActiveX control. I had it in my favourites and have since accidentally lost all my favourites after a recent machine format **Don't you hate that** : (. If someone could post the link it would be much appreciated...

Thanx
Vlad



From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Wed Nov 17 06:29:25 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 13:29:25 +0100
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B552B@stekelbes.ithelps.local>


Seeing this, I wunder if there is someone who has some code (and wants
to share it) to check all hyperlinks in the favorites of IE to see if
the page/website still exists?

Beeing on the internet for probably about 10 years now got me a lot of
favorites that are aged and no longer exists...

I like to clean up (sometimes).

Erwin


 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:36 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS

Hi Darren
 
We use these functions:
 
<code module>
 
Private Declare Function URLDownloadToFile Lib "urlmon" Alias
"URLDownloadToFileA" ( _
  ByVal pCaller As Long, _
  ByVal szURL As String, _
  ByVal szFileName As String, _
  ByVal dwReserved As Long, _
  ByVal lpfnCB As Long) _
  As Long

Public Function IsURL(ByVal strURL As String) As Boolean
 
' Usage: Check if URL strURL is alive and reachable.
'   booURL = IsURL("http://www.ibm.com")
'   booURL = IsURL("ftp://ftp.novell.com")
'
' Note: Protocol header like "http://" must be provided.
'
' 2001-12-09. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.
 
  ' File found at most URLs.
  Const cstrFileIndex As String = "index.htm"
 
  IsURL = (URLDownloadToFile(0, strURL, cstrFileIndex, 0, 0) = 0)
  
End Function

</code module>
 
If your URLs contains html document name you will have to modify the
code to use that and not append index.html.
 
/gustav

>>> d.dick at uws.edu.au 17-11-2004 05:03:08 >>>

I have an educational client who has a CD full of Education URL's
(Zillion's of 'em) Occasionally someone has to test to see if the links
are broken or not (Manually <yuk>)

I thought this would be a perfect application for Access Set up a table
of URLs and loop through 'em and return TRUE or FALSE

So...Is there a way I can type in
say...http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
and return "true" if the site exists or "false" if the site does not
exist.
 
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From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Wed Nov 17 07:47:20 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Steve Conklin (Developer@UltraDNT))
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 08:47:20 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Cool Date Picker
In-Reply-To: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD5055833280886D7@starfleet.unknown.local>
Message-ID: <001801c4ccab$f62377d0$0200a8c0@COA3>

http://lebans.com/monthcalendar.htm


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of ACTEBS
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 5:57 AM
To: Access Group (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Cool Date Picker


Guys,

I remember ages ago someone had developed a really cool date picker that
did not require an ActiveX control. I had it in my favourites and have
since accidentally lost all my favourites after a recent machine format
**Don't you hate that** : (. If someone could post the link it would be
much appreciated...

Thanx
Vlad

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From viner at EUnet.yu  Wed Nov 17 07:49:14 2004
From: viner at EUnet.yu (Ervin Brindza)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 14:49:14 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Cool Date Picker
References: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD5055833280886D7@starfleet.unknown.local>
Message-ID: <005601c4ccac$41dc14c0$0100a8c0@razvoj>

See Lyle Fairfield's date_picker.zip  on http://ffdba.com/newIndex.htm
Ervin
----- Original Message -----
From: "ACTEBS" <actebs at actebs.com.au>
To: "Access Group (E-mail)" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: 17 November, 2004 11:57 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Cool Date Picker


> Guys,
>
> I remember ages ago someone had developed a really cool date picker that
did not require an ActiveX control. I had it in my favourites and have since
accidentally lost all my favourites after a recent machine format **Don't
you hate that** : (. If someone could post the link it would be much
appreciated...
>
> Thanx
> Vlad
>
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Wed Nov 17 08:16:33 2004
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:16:33 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Cool Date Picker
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A27D2@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Try Drew's demo at

http://www.mvps.org/access/forms/frm0050.htm

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of ACTEBS
> Sent:	Wednesday, November 17, 2004 5:57 AM
> To:	Access Group \(E-mail\)
> Subject:	[AccessD] Cool Date Picker
> 
> Guys,
> 
> I remember ages ago someone had developed a really cool date picker that
> did not require an ActiveX control. I had it in my favourites and have
> since accidentally lost all my favourites after a recent machine format
> **Don't you hate that** : (. If someone could post the link it would be
> much appreciated...
> 
> Thanx
> Vlad
> 
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From garykjos at gmail.com  Wed Nov 17 08:45:41 2004
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 08:45:41 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Cool Date Picker
In-Reply-To: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD5055833280886D7@starfleet.unknown.local>
References: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD5055833280886D7@starfleet.unknown.local>
Message-ID: <aea6c49504111706456274d2db@mail.gmail.com>

That would probably be Drew's Mini Calendar I would guess.

http://www.wolfwares.com/Access/microsoft_access.htm



On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 21:57:23 +1100, ACTEBS <actebs at actebs.com.au> wrote:
> Guys,
> 
> I remember ages ago someone had developed a really cool date picker that did not require an ActiveX control. I had it in my favourites and have since accidentally lost all my favourites after a recent machine format **Don't you hate that** : (. If someone could post the link it would be much appreciated...
> 
> Thanx
> Vlad
> 
> --
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> 


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Nov 17 10:43:39 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 08:43:39 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] IMESentenceMode gremlin
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B85@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Are you working with Windows CE?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Rodgers [mailto:Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 1:29 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] IMESentenceMode gremlin


A slight change to a cmd button on a form has Access offering a fault,
'You entered an expression that has an invalid reference to the
property IMESentenceMode'. 

The debug highlight is of an unrelated, unchanged piece of code.
 
Anyone been here, please, and answered this seemingly strange error.
Cheers paul 

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From pjewett at bayplace.com  Wed Nov 17 11:51:24 2004
From: pjewett at bayplace.com (Phil Jewett)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:51:24 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Objects won't close after binding a form
Message-ID: <F24E31ECF2C99349AACF5C51856D5F88826C@pluto2.home.bayplace.com>

I had an unbound form with a handful of subforms that was working fine -
nothing fancy.  All the other forms in the mdb are regular bound forms
and they work fine.  I then bound the unbound form to a table and added
a few fields.  The form worked fine, except that the form won't close -
the Close button does nothing.  The form does not hang - it just won't
close.  If I try to switch to design mode, I get the error message:

You can't switch to a different view at this time.  Code was executing
when you tried to switch views.

If I then open up any other object (form, table) the Close buttons on
them don't work either!  But if I hit the Close button on the database
window, the other windows (not the database window) will then close -
one at a time, including the problem form.  Very odd.

If I unbind the form, the problem sometimes, but not always, goes away.
Sometimes the form won't even close from design view.  I've tried
backups, exporting the objects to a blank mdb, compacting, etc.  The
problem is wonderfully reproduceable!  I suppose I can just stay with
the unbound form, but I hate to build a system with a suspect mdb.

Using Access 2000 SP3 with SQL Server 2000.

Phil Jewett



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 17 14:11:14 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 12:11:14 -0800
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
References: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B552B@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <419BB062.40007@shaw.ca>

I have some really rough code written for Win 95, let me see if I can 
upgraded it
but just grab all the ".url"  files in the sub directories below that 
contain your favourites in win xp or win 2000
C:\Documents and Settings\usename\Favorites
then pass your .url filename to this routine to drag out the http address
Then pass http url string to xmlhttp or winhttp this will return a 404 
if not valid or 500 if server gone etc.

Public Function GetHTTPfromURL(FileNaam As String) As String
Dim FSO As New Scripting.FileSystemObject
Dim oFile As file
Dim oText As TextStream
Dim strLine As String

'grab the folder already so just get FileName
'Set oFolder = FSO.GetFolder(Path)
Set oFile = FSO.GetFile(FileNaam)
      Set oText = oFile.OpenAsTextStream
      Do
         strLine = oText.ReadLine 'contains [InternetShortcut]
      Loop Until strLine = "[InternetShortcut]"
      strLine = oText.ReadLine 'should contains URL=
      oText.Close
     
   ' Open "C:\Windows\Favorites\" & Text1.Text & ".url" For Binary 
Access Write As #1 ' Save the file.
   'Open FileNaam For Binary Access Read As #1 ' Read the file.
   ' Put #1, , "[InternetShortcut]" & vbNewLine & "URL=" & Text1.Text
   'Get #1, , VarBuf
   Debug.Print "**" & strLine & "**"
   ' Close #1
   ' MsgBox "URL sucessfully added to Favorites!", vbInformation
   GetHTTPfromURL = strLine
End Function

Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:

>Seeing this, I wunder if there is someone who has some code (and wants
>to share it) to check all hyperlinks in the favorites of IE to see if
>the page/website still exists?
>
>Beeing on the internet for probably about 10 years now got me a lot of
>favorites that are aged and no longer exists...
>
>I like to clean up (sometimes).
>
>Erwin
>
>
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:36 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>
>Hi Darren
> 
>We use these functions:
> 
><code module>
> 
>Private Declare Function URLDownloadToFile Lib "urlmon" Alias
>"URLDownloadToFileA" ( _
>  ByVal pCaller As Long, _
>  ByVal szURL As String, _
>  ByVal szFileName As String, _
>  ByVal dwReserved As Long, _
>  ByVal lpfnCB As Long) _
>  As Long
>
>Public Function IsURL(ByVal strURL As String) As Boolean
> 
>' Usage: Check if URL strURL is alive and reachable.
>'   booURL = IsURL("http://www.ibm.com")
>'   booURL = IsURL("ftp://ftp.novell.com")
>'
>' Note: Protocol header like "http://" must be provided.
>'
>' 2001-12-09. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.
> 
>  ' File found at most URLs.
>  Const cstrFileIndex As String = "index.htm"
> 
>  IsURL = (URLDownloadToFile(0, strURL, cstrFileIndex, 0, 0) = 0)
>  
>End Function
>
></code module>
> 
>If your URLs contains html document name you will have to modify the
>code to use that and not append index.html.
> 
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>d.dick at uws.edu.au 17-11-2004 05:03:08 >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>
>I have an educational client who has a CD full of Education URL's
>(Zillion's of 'em) Occasionally someone has to test to see if the links
>are broken or not (Manually <yuk>)
>
>I thought this would be a perfect application for Access Set up a table
>of URLs and loop through 'em and return TRUE or FALSE
>
>So...Is there a way I can type in
>say...http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
>and return "true" if the site exists or "false" if the site does not
>exist.
> 
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>  
>

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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Nov 17 10:43:28 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:43:28 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Cool Date Picker
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D0A2@main2.marlow.com>

Actually the last 'finished' version is on my website.
http://www.wolfwares.com

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 8:17 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'ACTEBS'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cool Date Picker


Try Drew's demo at

http://www.mvps.org/access/forms/frm0050.htm

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of ACTEBS
> Sent:	Wednesday, November 17, 2004 5:57 AM
> To:	Access Group \(E-mail\)
> Subject:	[AccessD] Cool Date Picker
> 
> Guys,
> 
> I remember ages ago someone had developed a really cool date picker that
> did not require an ActiveX control. I had it in my favourites and have
> since accidentally lost all my favourites after a recent machine format
> **Don't you hate that** : (. If someone could post the link it would be
> much appreciated...
> 
> Thanx
> Vlad
> 
> -- 
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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Nov 17 10:17:24 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 11:17:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Design Question
In-Reply-To: <419994EE.4020904@rogers.com>
References: <200411160225.iAG2P4dQ020224@cooper.uws.edu.au>
	<419994EE.4020904@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <419B7994.1030907@rogers.com>

Arthur Fuller wrote:

> Darren DICK wrote:
>
>> Hi Stuart
>> Thanks for the reply
>> In your suggestion I would create a 3rd table called tblEntity - yes?
>> How does it get populated?
>>
>> How would I store entries to the tblTimeBilling table.
>> IE in the union combo how would I store that PK 4 in this case is a
>> franchise
>> Not a client?
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>> Darren
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart 
>> McLachlan
>> Sent: Tuesday, 16 November 2004 12:25 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003: Design Question
>>
>> On 16 Nov 2004 at 12:03, Darren DICK wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>>
>>> BUT my client does work for both the Franchises and individual 
>>> Customers. In order to present both of them in a TimeBilling Screen 
>>> I use a union query to 'merge' both groups into a single combo
>>>
>>> The problem is storing the PK correctly. eg say I select the 4th 
>>> Franchise in the list - it has a PK of 4 Well an entry on the client 
>>> side will also have a PK of 4.
>>>
>>> I am tossing up with various ways to deal with this including 
>>> merging both tables into one table and just setting a flag to 
>>> differentiate Clients from Franchises.
>>> Of course I can have separate fields in the tblTimeBilling for 
>>> FranchiseID and for ClientID.
>>>
>>>   
>>
>>
>> I'd probably go for a tblEntity with 3 fields:
>>
>> ID
>> EntityType (Franchise or Client)
>> EntityID
>>
>> You can then base your ComboBox on a query something like:
>>
>> Select ID , IIF(EntityType = "F", FranchiseName,ClientName) as 
>> EntityName
>>
>>> From tblEntities Left  Join tblFranchises ....... Left Join TblClients
>>
>> ......
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Stuart
>>
>>
>>  
>>
> Is there a profitable reason to store these entities in different 
> tables? There may well be, but in your problem description it is not 
> apparent. If my hunch is correct, then you can put both Franchises and 
> Customers in the same table, adding a flag to indicate which. There is 
> the possibility however that an entity is both a Customer and a 
> Franchise, in which case a boolean won't do, so replace it with a 
> numeric.
>
> Up side: much simpler combo selectors.
> Down side: selecting only one or the other type demands hitting the 
> whole table (unless the BE is SQL).
>
> HTH,
> Arthur

SELECT EntityID, EntityName, IIF(EntityType="C", "Customer","Franchise") 
AS Type
FROM tblEntities
ORDER BY EntityName

You could ORDER BY EntityType first to gather them into two groups.



From Subscriptions at servicexp.com  Wed Nov 17 16:01:19 2004
From: Subscriptions at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 17:01:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Cool Date Picker
In-Reply-To: <005601c4ccac$41dc14c0$0100a8c0@razvoj>
Message-ID: <GPEGJHKJCEPGJIEIOEOOEEAJEEAA.Subscriptions@servicexp.com>

I can attest to Lyle's date_picker. It's rock solid and extremely easy to
use.


Robert Gracie
www.servicexp.com


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Ervin Brindza
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 8:49 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Cool Date Picker


See Lyle Fairfield's date_picker.zip  on http://ffdba.com/newIndex.htm
Ervin
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From: "ACTEBS" <actebs at actebs.com.au>
To: "Access Group (E-mail)" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: 17 November, 2004 11:57 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Cool Date Picker


> Guys,
>
> I remember ages ago someone had developed a really cool date picker that
did not require an ActiveX control. I had it in my favourites and have since
accidentally lost all my favourites after a recent machine format **Don't
you hate that** : (. If someone could post the link it would be much
appreciated...
>
> Thanx
> Vlad
>
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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Nov 17 16:12:29 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 09:12:29 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Design Question
In-Reply-To: <419B7994.1030907@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <200411172212.iAHMCcdQ022664@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Thanks Arthur and Stuart
et al who replied

I combined the tables and set a flag in each to dictate their Entity Type

Simple solution solved everything <sigh>

Many thanks

See y'all

Darren

 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Thursday, 18 November 2004 3:17 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003: Design Question

Arthur Fuller wrote:

> Darren DICK wrote:
>
>> Hi Stuart
>> Thanks for the reply
>> In your suggestion I would create a 3rd table called tblEntity - yes?
>> How does it get populated?
>>
>> How would I store entries to the tblTimeBilling table.
>> IE in the union combo how would I store that PK 4 in this case is a 
>> franchise Not a client?
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>> Darren
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart 
>> McLachlan
>> Sent: Tuesday, 16 November 2004 12:25 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003: Design Question
>>
>> On 16 Nov 2004 at 12:03, Darren DICK wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>>
>>> BUT my client does work for both the Franchises and individual 
>>> Customers. In order to present both of them in a TimeBilling Screen 
>>> I use a union query to 'merge' both groups into a single combo
>>>
>>> The problem is storing the PK correctly. eg say I select the 4th 
>>> Franchise in the list - it has a PK of 4 Well an entry on the client 
>>> side will also have a PK of 4.
>>>
>>> I am tossing up with various ways to deal with this including 
>>> merging both tables into one table and just setting a flag to 
>>> differentiate Clients from Franchises.
>>> Of course I can have separate fields in the tblTimeBilling for 
>>> FranchiseID and for ClientID.
>>>
>>>   
>>
>>
>> I'd probably go for a tblEntity with 3 fields:
>>
>> ID
>> EntityType (Franchise or Client)
>> EntityID
>>
>> You can then base your ComboBox on a query something like:
>>
>> Select ID , IIF(EntityType = "F", FranchiseName,ClientName) as 
>> EntityName
>>
>>> From tblEntities Left  Join tblFranchises ....... Left Join 
>>> TblClients
>>
>> ......
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Stuart
>>
>>
>>  
>>
> Is there a profitable reason to store these entities in different 
> tables? There may well be, but in your problem description it is not 
> apparent. If my hunch is correct, then you can put both Franchises and 
> Customers in the same table, adding a flag to indicate which. There is 
> the possibility however that an entity is both a Customer and a 
> Franchise, in which case a boolean won't do, so replace it with a 
> numeric.
>
> Up side: much simpler combo selectors.
> Down side: selecting only one or the other type demands hitting the 
> whole table (unless the BE is SQL).
>
> HTH,
> Arthur

SELECT EntityID, EntityName, IIF(EntityType="C", "Customer","Franchise") AS
Type FROM tblEntities ORDER BY EntityName

You could ORDER BY EntityType first to gather them into two groups.

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 17 17:33:39 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 15:33:39 -0800
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
References: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B552B@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
	<419BB062.40007@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <419BDFD3.90008@shaw.ca>

Here is the rest of the basic routines takes a couple of minutes for 
10000 favourites
I was amazed I only had 100 duplicates.
I used to dump to an xml file of favourites that I could cart around.

Just create a table to hold all your favourite url's
with 3 text fields 255 long to hold directory path and filename
1 numeric field for file length
1 date field
1 memo field to hold http url, it will go longer than 255 characters for 
things like google addresses

'temporary database
Dim MyDb As DATABASE
Dim MyRs As Recordset

' findsub "C:\Documents and Settings\marty\Favorites\", "*url"
Sub testgrab()
Set MyDb = CurrentDb
Set MyRs = MyDb.OpenRecordset("TempURL")
 FindSub "C:\Documents and Settings\marty\Favorites\", "*url"
Set MyRs = Nothing
Set MyDb = Nothing
End Sub

Sub FindSub(strStart As String, strFindWhat As String)
Dim arrFindDir() As String
Dim strFind As String
Dim i As Long

ChDrive (Left(strStart, 3))
ChDir (strStart)

Call DirSub(strFindWhat, strStart)

strFind = Dir("*.*", vbDirectory)
i = 0

Do Until strFind = ""
ReDim Preserve arrFindDir(i)
   arrFindDir(i) = strFind
   i = i + 1
   strFind = Dir()
Loop

For i = 0 To UBound(arrFindDir)
  If Dir(arrFindDir(i), vbNormal) = "" And Left(arrFindDir(i), 1) <> "." 
Then

   ' Recursive call
   Call FindSub(strStart & arrFindDir(i) & "\", strFindWhat)
   ChDir (strStart)
  End If
Next
End Sub
Sub DirSub(strFindWhat, strStart)
Dim strFindfile As String
Dim strFullPathName As String
'temporary database
'Dim MyDb As DATABASE
'Dim MyRs As Recordset
'Set MyDb = CurrentDb
'Set MyRs = MyDb.OpenRecordset("TempURL")
strFindfile = Dir(strFindWhat, vbNormal)
Do While strFindfile <> ""
'Debug.Print strStart & " - " & strFindfile
  '.lstFiles.AddItem strStart & strFindfile
   '  colMyList.Add strStart & strFindfile
   strFullPathName = strStart & strFindfile
   Debug.Print Len(strFullPathName) & "-" & strFullPathName
     MyRs.AddNew
            MyRs!Dirnaam = strStart
            MyRs!FileNaam = strFullPathName
            MyRs!file = strFindfile
            On Error Resume Next 'Weird url filename problems here that 
are dos illegal because of  "?" characters
                                                 ' you can pick out of 
table as they will have no filelength.
            MyRs!FileLen = FileLen(strFullPathName)
            MyRs!datTime = FileDateTime(strFullPathName)
            MyRs!Http = GetHTTPfromURL(strFullPathName)
            On Error GoTo 0
     MyRs.Update
  
  strFindfile = Dir()
Loop
'Set MyRs = Nothing
'Set MyDb = Nothing
End Sub

MartyConnelly wrote:

> I have some really rough code written for Win 95, let me see if I can 
> upgraded it
> but just grab all the ".url"  files in the sub directories below that 
> contain your favourites in win xp or win 2000
> C:\Documents and Settings\usename\Favorites
> then pass your .url filename to this routine to drag out the http address
> Then pass http url string to xmlhttp or winhttp this will return a 404 
> if not valid or 500 if server gone etc.
>
> Public Function GetHTTPfromURL(FileNaam As String) As String
> Dim FSO As New Scripting.FileSystemObject
> Dim oFile As file
> Dim oText As TextStream
> Dim strLine As String
>
> 'grab the folder already so just get FileName
> 'Set oFolder = FSO.GetFolder(Path)
> Set oFile = FSO.GetFile(FileNaam)
>      Set oText = oFile.OpenAsTextStream
>      Do
>         strLine = oText.ReadLine 'contains [InternetShortcut]
>      Loop Until strLine = "[InternetShortcut]"
>      strLine = oText.ReadLine 'should contains URL=
>      oText.Close
>       ' Open "C:\Windows\Favorites\" & Text1.Text & ".url" For Binary 
> Access Write As #1 ' Save the file.
>   'Open FileNaam For Binary Access Read As #1 ' Read the file.
>   ' Put #1, , "[InternetShortcut]" & vbNewLine & "URL=" & Text1.Text
>   'Get #1, , VarBuf
>   Debug.Print "**" & strLine & "**"
>   ' Close #1
>   ' MsgBox "URL sucessfully added to Favorites!", vbInformation
>   GetHTTPfromURL = strLine
> End Function
>
> Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:
>
>> Seeing this, I wunder if there is someone who has some code (and wants
>> to share it) to check all hyperlinks in the favorites of IE to see if
>> the page/website still exists?
>>
>> Beeing on the internet for probably about 10 years now got me a lot of
>> favorites that are aged and no longer exists...
>>
>> I like to clean up (sometimes).
>>
>> Erwin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:36 AM
>> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>> Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>>
>> Hi Darren
>>
>> We use these functions:
>>
>> <code module>
>>
>> Private Declare Function URLDownloadToFile Lib "urlmon" Alias
>> "URLDownloadToFileA" ( _
>>  ByVal pCaller As Long, _
>>  ByVal szURL As String, _
>>  ByVal szFileName As String, _
>>  ByVal dwReserved As Long, _
>>  ByVal lpfnCB As Long) _
>>  As Long
>>
>> Public Function IsURL(ByVal strURL As String) As Boolean
>>
>> ' Usage: Check if URL strURL is alive and reachable.
>> '   booURL = IsURL("http://www.ibm.com")
>> '   booURL = IsURL("ftp://ftp.novell.com")
>> '
>> ' Note: Protocol header like "http://" must be provided.
>> '
>> ' 2001-12-09. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.
>>
>>  ' File found at most URLs.
>>  Const cstrFileIndex As String = "index.htm"
>>
>>  IsURL = (URLDownloadToFile(0, strURL, cstrFileIndex, 0, 0) = 0)
>>  
>> End Function
>>
>> </code module>
>>
>> If your URLs contains html document name you will have to modify the
>> code to use that and not append index.html.
>>
>> /gustav
>>
>>  
>>
>>>>> d.dick at uws.edu.au 17-11-2004 05:03:08 >>>
>>>>>       
>>>>
>>
>> I have an educational client who has a CD full of Education URL's
>> (Zillion's of 'em) Occasionally someone has to test to see if the links
>> are broken or not (Manually <yuk>)
>>
>> I thought this would be a perfect application for Access Set up a table
>> of URLs and loop through 'em and return TRUE or FALSE
>>
>> So...Is there a way I can type in
>> say...http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
>> and return "true" if the site exists or "false" if the site does not
>> exist.
>>
>> -- 
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>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>  
>>
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Nov 17 18:58:27 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:58:27 +1100
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
In-Reply-To: <s19b2989.010@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <200411180058.iAI0wbdQ015891@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Gustav
Many thanks
I'm not sure how to use the code though :-(( I get odd results

When I put isUrl ("http://www.ibm.com") behind a button on a form
and put debug.print IsURL at the end of Public Function IsURL
I get "true"
If I put msgbox IsYrl at the end of Public Function IsURL
I get false
??
Dunno what it all means

http://www.ibm.com is a valid and live website
How do it know if there will be an index.htm file at the other end?
And how come I get differeing results with MSGBOX and Debug.print?

Obviously doing something wrong

Many thanks in advance

Darren



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, 17 November 2004 8:36 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS

Hi Darren
 
We use these functions:
 
<code module>
 
Private Declare Function URLDownloadToFile Lib "urlmon" Alias
"URLDownloadToFileA" ( _
  ByVal pCaller As Long, _
  ByVal szURL As String, _
  ByVal szFileName As String, _
  ByVal dwReserved As Long, _
  ByVal lpfnCB As Long) _
  As Long

Public Function IsURL(ByVal strURL As String) As Boolean
 
' Usage: Check if URL strURL is alive and reachable.
'   booURL = IsURL("http://www.ibm.com")
'   booURL = IsURL("ftp://ftp.novell.com")
'
' Note: Protocol header like "http://" must be provided.
'
' 2001-12-09. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.
 
  ' File found at most URLs.
  Const cstrFileIndex As String = "index.htm"
 
  IsURL = (URLDownloadToFile(0, strURL, cstrFileIndex, 0, 0) = 0)
  
End Function

</code module>
 
If your URLs contains html document name you will have to modify the code to
use that and not append index.html.
 
/gustav

>>> d.dick at uws.edu.au 17-11-2004 05:03:08 >>>

I have an educational client who has a CD full of Education URL's (Zillion's
of 'em) Occasionally someone has to test to see if the links are broken or
not (Manually <yuk>)

I thought this would be a perfect application for Access Set up a table of
URLs and loop through 'em and return TRUE or FALSE

So...Is there a way I can type in
say...http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
and return "true" if the site exists or "false" if the site does not exist.
 
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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Nov 17 19:08:54 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 12:08:54 +1100
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
In-Reply-To: <419BB062.40007@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <200411180109.iAI194dQ024697@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Marty 
Thanks for the reply
Couple of Q's though :-))

I can't compile past the...

Dim FSO  as New Scripting.FileSystemObject

What do I need to ref to get this to work?

I tried alternative of....

Set fso = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")

and managed to get it to compile and the code 'seemed' to work. In that it
filled the temp table with what looked to be correct values - but Dunno if
this is the same

The Public Function GetHTTPfromURL didn't seem to populate the HTTP Column
the temp table

Once I do have all the relevant information in the table - how do I actually
tell if
The link is live (or have I missed it in the code)

Many thanks

Darren


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Thursday, 18 November 2004 7:11 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS

I have some really rough code written for Win 95, let me see if I can
upgraded it but just grab all the ".url"  files in the sub directories below
that contain your favourites in win xp or win 2000 C:\Documents and
Settings\usename\Favorites then pass your .url filename to this routine to
drag out the http address Then pass http url string to xmlhttp or winhttp
this will return a 404 if not valid or 500 if server gone etc.

Public Function GetHTTPfromURL(FileNaam As String) As String Dim FSO As New
Scripting.FileSystemObject Dim oFile As file Dim oText As TextStream Dim
strLine As String

'grab the folder already so just get FileName 'Set oFolder =
FSO.GetFolder(Path) Set oFile = FSO.GetFile(FileNaam)
      Set oText = oFile.OpenAsTextStream
      Do
         strLine = oText.ReadLine 'contains [InternetShortcut]
      Loop Until strLine = "[InternetShortcut]"
      strLine = oText.ReadLine 'should contains URL=
      oText.Close
     
   ' Open "C:\Windows\Favorites\" & Text1.Text & ".url" For Binary Access
Write As #1 ' Save the file.
   'Open FileNaam For Binary Access Read As #1 ' Read the file.
   ' Put #1, , "[InternetShortcut]" & vbNewLine & "URL=" & Text1.Text
   'Get #1, , VarBuf
   Debug.Print "**" & strLine & "**"
   ' Close #1
   ' MsgBox "URL sucessfully added to Favorites!", vbInformation
   GetHTTPfromURL = strLine
End Function

Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:

>Seeing this, I wunder if there is someone who has some code (and wants 
>to share it) to check all hyperlinks in the favorites of IE to see if 
>the page/website still exists?
>
>Beeing on the internet for probably about 10 years now got me a lot of 
>favorites that are aged and no longer exists...
>
>I like to clean up (sometimes).
>
>Erwin
>
>
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:36 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>
>Hi Darren
> 
>We use these functions:
> 
><code module>
> 
>Private Declare Function URLDownloadToFile Lib "urlmon" Alias 
>"URLDownloadToFileA" ( _
>  ByVal pCaller As Long, _
>  ByVal szURL As String, _
>  ByVal szFileName As String, _
>  ByVal dwReserved As Long, _
>  ByVal lpfnCB As Long) _
>  As Long
>
>Public Function IsURL(ByVal strURL As String) As Boolean
> 
>' Usage: Check if URL strURL is alive and reachable.
>'   booURL = IsURL("http://www.ibm.com")
>'   booURL = IsURL("ftp://ftp.novell.com")
>'
>' Note: Protocol header like "http://" must be provided.
>'
>' 2001-12-09. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.
> 
>  ' File found at most URLs.
>  Const cstrFileIndex As String = "index.htm"
> 
>  IsURL = (URLDownloadToFile(0, strURL, cstrFileIndex, 0, 0) = 0)
>  
>End Function
>
></code module>
> 
>If your URLs contains html document name you will have to modify the 
>code to use that and not append index.html.
> 
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>d.dick at uws.edu.au 17-11-2004 05:03:08 >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>
>I have an educational client who has a CD full of Education URL's 
>(Zillion's of 'em) Occasionally someone has to test to see if the links 
>are broken or not (Manually <yuk>)
>
>I thought this would be a perfect application for Access Set up a table 
>of URLs and loop through 'em and return TRUE or FALSE
>
>So...Is there a way I can type in
>say...http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
>and return "true" if the site exists or "false" if the site does not 
>exist.
> 
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>

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From terry.mace at baesystems.com  Wed Nov 17 19:36:57 2004
From: terry.mace at baesystems.com (MACE, Terry)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 12:06:57 +1030
Subject: [AccessD] Corrupt Data File
Message-ID: <B20C5B1CB8A30543BD7A9F173F29CCFDAABCDF@abw2ex1.au.baesystems.com>


Help!!

I have a store management database application in Ac97 and last night the
back end data file was corrupted.  I have run the Ac97 repair tool and also
Jetcomp.exe on the file and they both say the file is OK.

The problem is when I attempt to open it I get the following message:

"'Index1' isn't an index in this table. Look in the indexes collection of
the TableDef object to determine the valid index names." OK /HELP

Clicking on the OK button just terminates the opening process.  Due to an
undiscovered (until now!) quirk in our backup system, this file has never
been backed up.  The file size is 7.2Mb and contains about 7000 records. A
zipped copy is about 1.6Mb.

Any advice on how or who could fix it would be most appreciated.

Terry Mace
BAE Systems
Melbourne, Australia


From jmhla at earthlink.net  Wed Nov 17 19:56:53 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 17:56:53 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.
Message-ID: <200411180156.iAI1uhL09921@databaseadvisors.com>

Inherited database problem.

 

OK Stop laughing at me.

At least the original programmer is still there.

 

I added a table to the BE. I cant or can't remember how to make the FE see
the new table to do forms and stuff.

 

Thanks

 

 

Joe Hecht

jmhla at earthlink.net

28g

 



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Nov 17 20:07:15 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 21:07:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.
In-Reply-To: <200411180156.iAI1uhL09921@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <007101c4cd13$54a52bc0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

File/get external data/link table

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 8:57 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.


Inherited database problem.

 

OK Stop laughing at me.

At least the original programmer is still there.

 

I added a table to the BE. I cant or can't remember how to make the FE see
the new table to do forms and stuff.

 

Thanks

 

 

Joe Hecht

jmhla at earthlink.net

28g

 

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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Nov 17 20:31:17 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 13:31:17 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
In-Reply-To: <419B76A3.10791.1B493706@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <200411180231.iAI2VRdR004987@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Thanks for the reply Stuart
I dunno what they are
They are just a gazillion URL type links
I just saw them written on a page and was told each one was being 'viewed'
manually
I thought there must be an easier way

Some Egs are
http://uws.edu.au/staff/adminorg/academic/edc/av_services
http://uws.edu.au/staff/adminorg/academic/edc/vcf
http://waceinc.org
http://fit.qut.edu.au/courses/undergrad/coop/

Also a lot of them have .index.html and readset1.htm etc
At the end of the URL

Many thanks

Darren


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Wednesday, 17 November 2004 5:05 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS

On 17 Nov 2004 at 15:03, Darren DICK wrote:

>  
> So...Is there a way I can type in 
> say...http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
> and return "true" if the site exists or "false" if the site does not
exist.
>  
> I know I can ping http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
> <http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au/>  and get a result but how 
> would I capture the ping 'reply' from DOS to a table?
>  
> Or...if any of you already have a method they would like to share them 
> please let me know
>  

Are they all domains or are some of them links to pages?  If the latter, you
need to test whether the domain is valid (using DNS lookup) and also test
whether a link valid is valid (ie look for 404 messages in response to HTTP
requests).  In other words you will have to write your own HTTP engine :-(

That will still not detect links that point to "parked" domains (take a look
at http://www.airniugini.com as an example of a parked domain)










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From pcs at azizaz.com  Wed Nov 17 20:50:16 2004
From: pcs at azizaz.com (pcs at azizaz.com)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 12:50:16 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Corrupt Data File
References: <B20C5B1CB8A30543BD7A9F173F29CCFDAABCDF@abw2ex1.au.baesystems.com>
Message-ID: <013701c4cd19$55bd91e0$fa10a8c0@Albatross>

Are you able to import the backendDb tables into a new empty db?

Regards
Borge

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To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
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Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:36 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Corrupt Data File


>
> Help!!
>
> I have a store management database application in Ac97 and last night the
> back end data file was corrupted.  I have run the Ac97 repair tool and
also
> Jetcomp.exe on the file and they both say the file is OK.
>
> The problem is when I attempt to open it I get the following message:
>
> "'Index1' isn't an index in this table. Look in the indexes collection of
> the TableDef object to determine the valid index names." OK /HELP
>
> Clicking on the OK button just terminates the opening process.  Due to an
> undiscovered (until now!) quirk in our backup system, this file has never
> been backed up.  The file size is 7.2Mb and contains about 7000 records. A
> zipped copy is about 1.6Mb.
>
> Any advice on how or who could fix it would be most appreciated.
>
> Terry Mace
> BAE Systems
> Melbourne, Australia
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 17 20:50:52 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 18:50:52 -0800
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
References: <200411180109.iAI194dQ024697@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <419C0E0C.7050405@shaw.ca>

Reference for scripting filesystem object
Wshom.ocx Windows Script Host Model
generically known as WSH

You should be getting Http Url printed out with asterix in debug window
if it is working, before it is placed in the memo field, maybe a typo 
name error in table or code

The code to test validity of url could be something like this
with request status being returned as 404 or 500 for invalid just like 
http error codes;  200 for normal or good

The response Debug.Print HttpReq.StatusText will give you a better 
explanation.

You should have some version of XML installed if using IE 6.0

'?testurlxml("http://www.microsoft.com")
Function testurlxml(strURL As String) As String
  Dim HttpReq As Object
  Set HttpReq = CreateObject("MSXML2.XMLHTTP")
  HttpReq.Open "GET", strURL, False
  HttpReq.send
  'Debug.Print HttpReq.responseText 'this is returned html string
  Debug.Print HttpReq.Status
  Debug.Print HttpReq.StatusText
  testurlxml = HttpReq.Status '200 normal
End Function

You can also verify legality of url string
Private Declare Function PathIsURL Lib "shlwapi.dll" _
   Alias "PathIsURLA" _
  (ByVal pszPath As String) As Long



Private Function IsPathAURL(ByVal sPath As String) As Boolean

  'Tests a given string to determine if it
  'conforms to a valid URL format. Returns
  'True if sPath has a valid URL format,
  'or False otherwise.

  'This function does not verify that the
  'path points to an existing site, only
  'that it has a valid URL format.

   IsPathAURL = PathIsURL(sPath) = 1

End Function

Darren DICK wrote:

>Hi Marty 
>Thanks for the reply
>Couple of Q's though :-))
>
>I can't compile past the...
>
>Dim FSO  as New Scripting.FileSystemObject
>
>What do I need to ref to get this to work?
>
>I tried alternative of....
>
>Set fso = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
>
>and managed to get it to compile and the code 'seemed' to work. In that it
>filled the temp table with what looked to be correct values - but Dunno if
>this is the same
>
>The Public Function GetHTTPfromURL didn't seem to populate the HTTP Column
>the temp table
>
>Once I do have all the relevant information in the table - how do I actually
>tell if
>The link is live (or have I missed it in the code)
>
>Many thanks
>
>Darren
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
>Sent: Thursday, 18 November 2004 7:11 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>
>I have some really rough code written for Win 95, let me see if I can
>upgraded it but just grab all the ".url"  files in the sub directories below
>that contain your favourites in win xp or win 2000 C:\Documents and
>Settings\usename\Favorites then pass your .url filename to this routine to
>drag out the http address Then pass http url string to xmlhttp or winhttp
>this will return a 404 if not valid or 500 if server gone etc.
>
>Public Function GetHTTPfromURL(FileNaam As String) As String Dim FSO As New
>Scripting.FileSystemObject Dim oFile As file Dim oText As TextStream Dim
>strLine As String
>
>'grab the folder already so just get FileName 'Set oFolder =
>FSO.GetFolder(Path) Set oFile = FSO.GetFile(FileNaam)
>      Set oText = oFile.OpenAsTextStream
>      Do
>         strLine = oText.ReadLine 'contains [InternetShortcut]
>      Loop Until strLine = "[InternetShortcut]"
>      strLine = oText.ReadLine 'should contains URL=
>      oText.Close
>     
>   ' Open "C:\Windows\Favorites\" & Text1.Text & ".url" For Binary Access
>Write As #1 ' Save the file.
>   'Open FileNaam For Binary Access Read As #1 ' Read the file.
>   ' Put #1, , "[InternetShortcut]" & vbNewLine & "URL=" & Text1.Text
>   'Get #1, , VarBuf
>   Debug.Print "**" & strLine & "**"
>   ' Close #1
>   ' MsgBox "URL sucessfully added to Favorites!", vbInformation
>   GetHTTPfromURL = strLine
>End Function
>
>Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Seeing this, I wunder if there is someone who has some code (and wants 
>>to share it) to check all hyperlinks in the favorites of IE to see if 
>>the page/website still exists?
>>
>>Beeing on the internet for probably about 10 years now got me a lot of 
>>favorites that are aged and no longer exists...
>>
>>I like to clean up (sometimes).
>>
>>Erwin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>>Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:36 AM
>>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>>Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>>
>>Hi Darren
>>
>>We use these functions:
>>
>><code module>
>>
>>Private Declare Function URLDownloadToFile Lib "urlmon" Alias 
>>"URLDownloadToFileA" ( _
>> ByVal pCaller As Long, _
>> ByVal szURL As String, _
>> ByVal szFileName As String, _
>> ByVal dwReserved As Long, _
>> ByVal lpfnCB As Long) _
>> As Long
>>
>>Public Function IsURL(ByVal strURL As String) As Boolean
>>
>>' Usage: Check if URL strURL is alive and reachable.
>>'   booURL = IsURL("http://www.ibm.com")
>>'   booURL = IsURL("ftp://ftp.novell.com")
>>'
>>' Note: Protocol header like "http://" must be provided.
>>'
>>' 2001-12-09. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.
>>
>> ' File found at most URLs.
>> Const cstrFileIndex As String = "index.htm"
>>
>> IsURL = (URLDownloadToFile(0, strURL, cstrFileIndex, 0, 0) = 0)
>> 
>>End Function
>>
>></code module>
>>
>>If your URLs contains html document name you will have to modify the 
>>code to use that and not append index.html.
>>
>>/gustav
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>>>d.dick at uws.edu.au 17-11-2004 05:03:08 >>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>I have an educational client who has a CD full of Education URL's 
>>(Zillion's of 'em) Occasionally someone has to test to see if the links 
>>are broken or not (Manually <yuk>)
>>
>>I thought this would be a perfect application for Access Set up a table 
>>of URLs and loop through 'em and return TRUE or FALSE
>>
>>So...Is there a way I can type in
>>say...http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
>>and return "true" if the site exists or "false" if the site does not 
>>exist.
>>
>>--
>>_______________________________________________
>>AccessD mailing list
>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>
>--
>Marty Connelly
>Victoria, B.C.
>Canada
>
>
>
>  
>

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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Nov 17 21:12:33 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 14:12:33 +1100
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
In-Reply-To: <419C0E0C.7050405@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <200411180312.iAI3CidQ011702@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Marty
I have Windows Script Host Object Model Referenced
It still fails on the line FSO As New Scripting.FileSystemObject
The reference file is...
C:\Windows\System32\wshom.ocx
I have it at the top (Welll 3rd at least) of the available references

Can you remove you reference to it and decompile to see if it fails on that
line for you??

Many thanks

Darren

 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Thursday, 18 November 2004 1:51 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS

Reference for scripting filesystem object Wshom.ocx Windows Script Host
Model generically known as WSH

You should be getting Http Url printed out with asterix in debug window if
it is working, before it is placed in the memo field, maybe a typo name
error in table or code

The code to test validity of url could be something like this with request
status being returned as 404 or 500 for invalid just like http error codes;
200 for normal or good

The response Debug.Print HttpReq.StatusText will give you a better
explanation.

You should have some version of XML installed if using IE 6.0

'?testurlxml("http://www.microsoft.com")
Function testurlxml(strURL As String) As String
  Dim HttpReq As Object
  Set HttpReq = CreateObject("MSXML2.XMLHTTP")
  HttpReq.Open "GET", strURL, False
  HttpReq.send
  'Debug.Print HttpReq.responseText 'this is returned html string
  Debug.Print HttpReq.Status
  Debug.Print HttpReq.StatusText
  testurlxml = HttpReq.Status '200 normal End Function

You can also verify legality of url string Private Declare Function
PathIsURL Lib "shlwapi.dll" _
   Alias "PathIsURLA" _
  (ByVal pszPath As String) As Long



Private Function IsPathAURL(ByVal sPath As String) As Boolean

  'Tests a given string to determine if it
  'conforms to a valid URL format. Returns
  'True if sPath has a valid URL format,
  'or False otherwise.

  'This function does not verify that the
  'path points to an existing site, only
  'that it has a valid URL format.

   IsPathAURL = PathIsURL(sPath) = 1

End Function

Darren DICK wrote:

>Hi Marty
>Thanks for the reply
>Couple of Q's though :-))
>
>I can't compile past the...
>
>Dim FSO  as New Scripting.FileSystemObject
>
>What do I need to ref to get this to work?
>
>I tried alternative of....
>
>Set fso = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
>
>and managed to get it to compile and the code 'seemed' to work. In that 
>it filled the temp table with what looked to be correct values - but 
>Dunno if this is the same
>
>The Public Function GetHTTPfromURL didn't seem to populate the HTTP 
>Column the temp table
>
>Once I do have all the relevant information in the table - how do I 
>actually tell if The link is live (or have I missed it in the code)
>
>Many thanks
>
>Darren
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
>MartyConnelly
>Sent: Thursday, 18 November 2004 7:11 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>
>I have some really rough code written for Win 95, let me see if I can 
>upgraded it but just grab all the ".url"  files in the sub directories 
>below that contain your favourites in win xp or win 2000 C:\Documents 
>and Settings\usename\Favorites then pass your .url filename to this 
>routine to drag out the http address Then pass http url string to 
>xmlhttp or winhttp this will return a 404 if not valid or 500 if server
gone etc.
>
>Public Function GetHTTPfromURL(FileNaam As String) As String Dim FSO As 
>New Scripting.FileSystemObject Dim oFile As file Dim oText As 
>TextStream Dim strLine As String
>
>'grab the folder already so just get FileName 'Set oFolder =
>FSO.GetFolder(Path) Set oFile = FSO.GetFile(FileNaam)
>      Set oText = oFile.OpenAsTextStream
>      Do
>         strLine = oText.ReadLine 'contains [InternetShortcut]
>      Loop Until strLine = "[InternetShortcut]"
>      strLine = oText.ReadLine 'should contains URL=
>      oText.Close
>     
>   ' Open "C:\Windows\Favorites\" & Text1.Text & ".url" For Binary 
>Access Write As #1 ' Save the file.
>   'Open FileNaam For Binary Access Read As #1 ' Read the file.
>   ' Put #1, , "[InternetShortcut]" & vbNewLine & "URL=" & Text1.Text
>   'Get #1, , VarBuf
>   Debug.Print "**" & strLine & "**"
>   ' Close #1
>   ' MsgBox "URL sucessfully added to Favorites!", vbInformation
>   GetHTTPfromURL = strLine
>End Function
>
>Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Seeing this, I wunder if there is someone who has some code (and wants 
>>to share it) to check all hyperlinks in the favorites of IE to see if 
>>the page/website still exists?
>>
>>Beeing on the internet for probably about 10 years now got me a lot of 
>>favorites that are aged and no longer exists...
>>
>>I like to clean up (sometimes).
>>
>>Erwin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav 
>>Brock
>>Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:36 AM
>>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>>Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>>
>>Hi Darren
>>
>>We use these functions:
>>
>><code module>
>>
>>Private Declare Function URLDownloadToFile Lib "urlmon" Alias 
>>"URLDownloadToFileA" ( _  ByVal pCaller As Long, _  ByVal szURL As 
>>String, _  ByVal szFileName As String, _  ByVal dwReserved As Long, _  
>>ByVal lpfnCB As Long) _  As Long
>>
>>Public Function IsURL(ByVal strURL As String) As Boolean
>>
>>' Usage: Check if URL strURL is alive and reachable.
>>'   booURL = IsURL("http://www.ibm.com")
>>'   booURL = IsURL("ftp://ftp.novell.com")
>>'
>>' Note: Protocol header like "http://" must be provided.
>>'
>>' 2001-12-09. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.
>>
>> ' File found at most URLs.
>> Const cstrFileIndex As String = "index.htm"
>>
>> IsURL = (URLDownloadToFile(0, strURL, cstrFileIndex, 0, 0) = 0)
>> 
>>End Function
>>
>></code module>
>>
>>If your URLs contains html document name you will have to modify the 
>>code to use that and not append index.html.
>>
>>/gustav
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>>>d.dick at uws.edu.au 17-11-2004 05:03:08 >>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>I have an educational client who has a CD full of Education URL's 
>>(Zillion's of 'em) Occasionally someone has to test to see if the 
>>links are broken or not (Manually <yuk>)
>>
>>I thought this would be a perfect application for Access Set up a 
>>table of URLs and loop through 'em and return TRUE or FALSE
>>
>>So...Is there a way I can type in
>>say...http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
>>and return "true" if the site exists or "false" if the site does not 
>>exist.
>>
>>--
>>_______________________________________________
>>AccessD mailing list
>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>
>--
>Marty Connelly
>Victoria, B.C.
>Canada
>
>
>
>  
>

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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Nov 17 21:28:01 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 14:28:01 +1100
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
In-Reply-To: <419C0E0C.7050405@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <200411180328.iAI3SCdQ026231@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Marty
It is now failing on  HttpReq.send 
In the Function testurlxml

I think it's time to quit - can't get it to work

I really am grateful for your time :-))

Many thanks

Darren
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Thursday, 18 November 2004 1:51 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS

Reference for scripting filesystem object Wshom.ocx Windows Script Host
Model generically known as WSH

You should be getting Http Url printed out with asterix in debug window if
it is working, before it is placed in the memo field, maybe a typo name
error in table or code

The code to test validity of url could be something like this with request
status being returned as 404 or 500 for invalid just like http error codes;
200 for normal or good

The response Debug.Print HttpReq.StatusText will give you a better
explanation.

You should have some version of XML installed if using IE 6.0

'?testurlxml("http://www.microsoft.com")
Function testurlxml(strURL As String) As String
  Dim HttpReq As Object
  Set HttpReq = CreateObject("MSXML2.XMLHTTP")
  HttpReq.Open "GET", strURL, False
  HttpReq.send
  'Debug.Print HttpReq.responseText 'this is returned html string
  Debug.Print HttpReq.Status
  Debug.Print HttpReq.StatusText
  testurlxml = HttpReq.Status '200 normal End Function

You can also verify legality of url string Private Declare Function
PathIsURL Lib "shlwapi.dll" _
   Alias "PathIsURLA" _
  (ByVal pszPath As String) As Long



Private Function IsPathAURL(ByVal sPath As String) As Boolean

  'Tests a given string to determine if it
  'conforms to a valid URL format. Returns
  'True if sPath has a valid URL format,
  'or False otherwise.

  'This function does not verify that the
  'path points to an existing site, only
  'that it has a valid URL format.

   IsPathAURL = PathIsURL(sPath) = 1

End Function

Darren DICK wrote:

>Hi Marty
>Thanks for the reply
>Couple of Q's though :-))
>
>I can't compile past the...
>
>Dim FSO  as New Scripting.FileSystemObject
>
>What do I need to ref to get this to work?
>
>I tried alternative of....
>
>Set fso = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
>
>and managed to get it to compile and the code 'seemed' to work. In that 
>it filled the temp table with what looked to be correct values - but 
>Dunno if this is the same
>
>The Public Function GetHTTPfromURL didn't seem to populate the HTTP 
>Column the temp table
>
>Once I do have all the relevant information in the table - how do I 
>actually tell if The link is live (or have I missed it in the code)
>
>Many thanks
>
>Darren
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
>MartyConnelly
>Sent: Thursday, 18 November 2004 7:11 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>
>I have some really rough code written for Win 95, let me see if I can 
>upgraded it but just grab all the ".url"  files in the sub directories 
>below that contain your favourites in win xp or win 2000 C:\Documents 
>and Settings\usename\Favorites then pass your .url filename to this 
>routine to drag out the http address Then pass http url string to 
>xmlhttp or winhttp this will return a 404 if not valid or 500 if server
gone etc.
>
>Public Function GetHTTPfromURL(FileNaam As String) As String Dim FSO As 
>New Scripting.FileSystemObject Dim oFile As file Dim oText As 
>TextStream Dim strLine As String
>
>'grab the folder already so just get FileName 'Set oFolder =
>FSO.GetFolder(Path) Set oFile = FSO.GetFile(FileNaam)
>      Set oText = oFile.OpenAsTextStream
>      Do
>         strLine = oText.ReadLine 'contains [InternetShortcut]
>      Loop Until strLine = "[InternetShortcut]"
>      strLine = oText.ReadLine 'should contains URL=
>      oText.Close
>     
>   ' Open "C:\Windows\Favorites\" & Text1.Text & ".url" For Binary 
>Access Write As #1 ' Save the file.
>   'Open FileNaam For Binary Access Read As #1 ' Read the file.
>   ' Put #1, , "[InternetShortcut]" & vbNewLine & "URL=" & Text1.Text
>   'Get #1, , VarBuf
>   Debug.Print "**" & strLine & "**"
>   ' Close #1
>   ' MsgBox "URL sucessfully added to Favorites!", vbInformation
>   GetHTTPfromURL = strLine
>End Function
>
>Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Seeing this, I wunder if there is someone who has some code (and wants 
>>to share it) to check all hyperlinks in the favorites of IE to see if 
>>the page/website still exists?
>>
>>Beeing on the internet for probably about 10 years now got me a lot of 
>>favorites that are aged and no longer exists...
>>
>>I like to clean up (sometimes).
>>
>>Erwin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav 
>>Brock
>>Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:36 AM
>>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>>Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>>
>>Hi Darren
>>
>>We use these functions:
>>
>><code module>
>>
>>Private Declare Function URLDownloadToFile Lib "urlmon" Alias 
>>"URLDownloadToFileA" ( _  ByVal pCaller As Long, _  ByVal szURL As 
>>String, _  ByVal szFileName As String, _  ByVal dwReserved As Long, _  
>>ByVal lpfnCB As Long) _  As Long
>>
>>Public Function IsURL(ByVal strURL As String) As Boolean
>>
>>' Usage: Check if URL strURL is alive and reachable.
>>'   booURL = IsURL("http://www.ibm.com")
>>'   booURL = IsURL("ftp://ftp.novell.com")
>>'
>>' Note: Protocol header like "http://" must be provided.
>>'
>>' 2001-12-09. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.
>>
>> ' File found at most URLs.
>> Const cstrFileIndex As String = "index.htm"
>>
>> IsURL = (URLDownloadToFile(0, strURL, cstrFileIndex, 0, 0) = 0)
>> 
>>End Function
>>
>></code module>
>>
>>If your URLs contains html document name you will have to modify the 
>>code to use that and not append index.html.
>>
>>/gustav
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>>>d.dick at uws.edu.au 17-11-2004 05:03:08 >>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>I have an educational client who has a CD full of Education URL's 
>>(Zillion's of 'em) Occasionally someone has to test to see if the 
>>links are broken or not (Manually <yuk>)
>>
>>I thought this would be a perfect application for Access Set up a 
>>table of URLs and loop through 'em and return TRUE or FALSE
>>
>>So...Is there a way I can type in
>>say...http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
>>and return "true" if the site exists or "false" if the site does not 
>>exist.
>>
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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Wed Nov 17 21:39:48 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 19:39:48 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.
In-Reply-To: <007101c4cd13$54a52bc0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <000001c4cd20$414b54c0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

Thanks for unmelting my mind  John

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
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Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 6:07 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.

File/get external data/link table

John W. Colby
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Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 8:57 PM
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Subject: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.


Inherited database problem.

 

OK Stop laughing at me.

At least the original programmer is still there.

 

I added a table to the BE. I cant or can't remember how to make the FE see
the new table to do forms and stuff.

 

Thanks

 

 

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Nov 17 21:56:08 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 22:56:08 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.
In-Reply-To: <000001c4cd20$414b54c0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <000301c4cd22$8a112ca0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

We all need a jolt sometimes.  I use Diet Pepsi or chocolate covered coffee
beans.  And now of course I'm starting walking on a treadmill.  8-0

John W. Colby
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Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:40 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.


Thanks for unmelting my mind  John

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
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Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 6:07 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.

File/get external data/link table

John W. Colby
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Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 8:57 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.


Inherited database problem.

 

OK Stop laughing at me.

At least the original programmer is still there.

 

I added a table to the BE. I cant or can't remember how to make the FE see
the new table to do forms and stuff.

 

Thanks

 

 

Joe Hecht

jmhla at earthlink.net

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Wed Nov 17 22:05:29 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 20:05:29 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.
In-Reply-To: <000301c4cd22$8a112ca0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <000e01c4cd23$dabdfc90$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

Does the book on the tread mill say way a wizard button will not let you go
to a new record


JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
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Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 7:56 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.

We all need a jolt sometimes.  I use Diet Pepsi or chocolate covered coffee
beans.  And now of course I'm starting walking on a treadmill.  8-0

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:40 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.


Thanks for unmelting my mind  John

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
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Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 6:07 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.

File/get external data/link table

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 8:57 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.


Inherited database problem.

 

OK Stop laughing at me.

At least the original programmer is still there.

 

I added a table to the BE. I cant or can't remember how to make the FE see
the new table to do forms and stuff.

 

Thanks

 

 

Joe Hecht

jmhla at earthlink.net

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 17 23:36:53 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 21:36:53 -0800
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
References: <200411180312.iAI3CidQ011702@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <419C34F5.3080300@shaw.ca>

Arggh it is in both with a different intial reference IWshRuntimeLibrary 
instead of Scripting, you can see the difference in object browser.
also in scrrun.dll    Microsoft Scripting Runtime  I just looked at the 
first one.

You should have standard Microsoft XML V 4.0 or 3  if running win 2000 or XP
Installed by IE 6.0 or OS, unless some has deinstalled
c:\windows\system32\msxml4.dll

Darren DICK wrote:

>Hi Marty
>I have Windows Script Host Object Model Referenced
>It still fails on the line FSO As New Scripting.FileSystemObject
>The reference file is...
>C:\Windows\System32\wshom.ocx
>I have it at the top (Welll 3rd at least) of the available references
>
>Can you remove you reference to it and decompile to see if it fails on that
>line for you??
>
>Many thanks
>
>Darren
>
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
>Sent: Thursday, 18 November 2004 1:51 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>
>Reference for scripting filesystem object Wshom.ocx Windows Script Host
>Model generically known as WSH
>
>You should be getting Http Url printed out with asterix in debug window if
>it is working, before it is placed in the memo field, maybe a typo name
>error in table or code
>
>The code to test validity of url could be something like this with request
>status being returned as 404 or 500 for invalid just like http error codes;
>200 for normal or good
>
>The response Debug.Print HttpReq.StatusText will give you a better
>explanation.
>
>You should have some version of XML installed if using IE 6.0
>
>'?testurlxml("http://www.microsoft.com")
>Function testurlxml(strURL As String) As String
>  Dim HttpReq As Object
>  Set HttpReq = CreateObject("MSXML2.XMLHTTP")
>  HttpReq.Open "GET", strURL, False
>  HttpReq.send
>  'Debug.Print HttpReq.responseText 'this is returned html string
>  Debug.Print HttpReq.Status
>  Debug.Print HttpReq.StatusText
>  testurlxml = HttpReq.Status '200 normal End Function
>
>You can also verify legality of url string Private Declare Function
>PathIsURL Lib "shlwapi.dll" _
>   Alias "PathIsURLA" _
>  (ByVal pszPath As String) As Long
>
>
>
>Private Function IsPathAURL(ByVal sPath As String) As Boolean
>
>  'Tests a given string to determine if it
>  'conforms to a valid URL format. Returns
>  'True if sPath has a valid URL format,
>  'or False otherwise.
>
>  'This function does not verify that the
>  'path points to an existing site, only
>  'that it has a valid URL format.
>
>   IsPathAURL = PathIsURL(sPath) = 1
>
>End Function
>
>Darren DICK wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi Marty
>>Thanks for the reply
>>Couple of Q's though :-))
>>
>>I can't compile past the...
>>
>>Dim FSO  as New Scripting.FileSystemObject
>>
>>What do I need to ref to get this to work?
>>
>>I tried alternative of....
>>
>>Set fso = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
>>
>>and managed to get it to compile and the code 'seemed' to work. In that 
>>it filled the temp table with what looked to be correct values - but 
>>Dunno if this is the same
>>
>>The Public Function GetHTTPfromURL didn't seem to populate the HTTP 
>>Column the temp table
>>
>>Once I do have all the relevant information in the table - how do I 
>>actually tell if The link is live (or have I missed it in the code)
>>
>>Many thanks
>>
>>Darren
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
>>MartyConnelly
>>Sent: Thursday, 18 November 2004 7:11 AM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: Re: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>>
>>I have some really rough code written for Win 95, let me see if I can 
>>upgraded it but just grab all the ".url"  files in the sub directories 
>>below that contain your favourites in win xp or win 2000 C:\Documents 
>>and Settings\usename\Favorites then pass your .url filename to this 
>>routine to drag out the http address Then pass http url string to 
>>xmlhttp or winhttp this will return a 404 if not valid or 500 if server
>>    
>>
>gone etc.
>  
>
>>Public Function GetHTTPfromURL(FileNaam As String) As String Dim FSO As 
>>New Scripting.FileSystemObject Dim oFile As file Dim oText As 
>>TextStream Dim strLine As String
>>
>>'grab the folder already so just get FileName 'Set oFolder =
>>FSO.GetFolder(Path) Set oFile = FSO.GetFile(FileNaam)
>>     Set oText = oFile.OpenAsTextStream
>>     Do
>>        strLine = oText.ReadLine 'contains [InternetShortcut]
>>     Loop Until strLine = "[InternetShortcut]"
>>     strLine = oText.ReadLine 'should contains URL=
>>     oText.Close
>>    
>>  ' Open "C:\Windows\Favorites\" & Text1.Text & ".url" For Binary 
>>Access Write As #1 ' Save the file.
>>  'Open FileNaam For Binary Access Read As #1 ' Read the file.
>>  ' Put #1, , "[InternetShortcut]" & vbNewLine & "URL=" & Text1.Text
>>  'Get #1, , VarBuf
>>  Debug.Print "**" & strLine & "**"
>>  ' Close #1
>>  ' MsgBox "URL sucessfully added to Favorites!", vbInformation
>>  GetHTTPfromURL = strLine
>>End Function
>>
>>Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Seeing this, I wunder if there is someone who has some code (and wants 
>>>to share it) to check all hyperlinks in the favorites of IE to see if 
>>>the page/website still exists?
>>>
>>>Beeing on the internet for probably about 10 years now got me a lot of 
>>>favorites that are aged and no longer exists...
>>>
>>>I like to clean up (sometimes).
>>>
>>>Erwin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav 
>>>Brock
>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:36 AM
>>>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>>>Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>>>
>>>Hi Darren
>>>
>>>We use these functions:
>>>
>>><code module>
>>>
>>>Private Declare Function URLDownloadToFile Lib "urlmon" Alias 
>>>"URLDownloadToFileA" ( _  ByVal pCaller As Long, _  ByVal szURL As 
>>>String, _  ByVal szFileName As String, _  ByVal dwReserved As Long, _  
>>>ByVal lpfnCB As Long) _  As Long
>>>
>>>Public Function IsURL(ByVal strURL As String) As Boolean
>>>
>>>' Usage: Check if URL strURL is alive and reachable.
>>>'   booURL = IsURL("http://www.ibm.com")
>>>'   booURL = IsURL("ftp://ftp.novell.com")
>>>'
>>>' Note: Protocol header like "http://" must be provided.
>>>'
>>>' 2001-12-09. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.
>>>
>>>' File found at most URLs.
>>>Const cstrFileIndex As String = "index.htm"
>>>
>>>IsURL = (URLDownloadToFile(0, strURL, cstrFileIndex, 0, 0) = 0)
>>>
>>>End Function
>>>
>>></code module>
>>>
>>>If your URLs contains html document name you will have to modify the 
>>>code to use that and not append index.html.
>>>
>>>/gustav
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>>d.dick at uws.edu.au 17-11-2004 05:03:08 >>>
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>I have an educational client who has a CD full of Education URL's 
>>>(Zillion's of 'em) Occasionally someone has to test to see if the 
>>>links are broken or not (Manually <yuk>)
>>>
>>>I thought this would be a perfect application for Access Set up a 
>>>table of URLs and loop through 'em and return TRUE or FALSE
>>>
>>>So...Is there a way I can type in
>>>say...http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
>>>and return "true" if the site exists or "false" if the site does not 
>>>exist.
>>>
>>>--
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>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>--
>>Marty Connelly
>>Victoria, B.C.
>>Canada
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>
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>
>
>
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From terry.mace at baesystems.com  Wed Nov 17 23:41:04 2004
From: terry.mace at baesystems.com (MACE, Terry)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 16:11:04 +1030
Subject: [AccessD] Corrupt Data File
Message-ID: <B20C5B1CB8A30543BD7A9F173F29CCFDAABCE1@abw2ex1.au.baesystems.com>

Borge,

That worked! I didn't think to try that - there was a corrupted test report
that I don't need, so all the data is safe - yea!

Thanks
Terry

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Sent: Thursday, 18 November 2004 13:50
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Corrupt Data File


Are you able to import the backendDb tables into a new empty db?

Regards
Borge

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Subject: [AccessD] Corrupt Data File


>
> Help!!
>
> I have a store management database application in Ac97 and last night the
> back end data file was corrupted.  I have run the Ac97 repair tool and
also
> Jetcomp.exe on the file and they both say the file is OK.
>
> The problem is when I attempt to open it I get the following message:
>
> "'Index1' isn't an index in this table. Look in the indexes collection of
> the TableDef object to determine the valid index names." OK /HELP
>
> Clicking on the OK button just terminates the opening process.  Due to an
> undiscovered (until now!) quirk in our backup system, this file has never
> been backed up.  The file size is 7.2Mb and contains about 7000 records. A
> zipped copy is about 1.6Mb.
>
> Any advice on how or who could fix it would be most appreciated.
>
> Terry Mace
> BAE Systems
> Melbourne, Australia
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 17 23:44:23 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 21:44:23 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Corrupt Data File
References: <B20C5B1CB8A30543BD7A9F173F29CCFDAABCDF@abw2ex1.au.baesystems.com>
Message-ID: <419C36B7.6060200@shaw.ca>

Try Peter Miller at
http://www.pksolutions.com
If it is fixable the cost is between $200 and $500
You just ftp the file to their site.

MACE, Terry wrote:

>Help!!
>
>I have a store management database application in Ac97 and last night the
>back end data file was corrupted.  I have run the Ac97 repair tool and also
>Jetcomp.exe on the file and they both say the file is OK.
>
>The problem is when I attempt to open it I get the following message:
>
>"'Index1' isn't an index in this table. Look in the indexes collection of
>the TableDef object to determine the valid index names." OK /HELP
>
>Clicking on the OK button just terminates the opening process.  Due to an
>undiscovered (until now!) quirk in our backup system, this file has never
>been backed up.  The file size is 7.2Mb and contains about 7000 records. A
>zipped copy is about 1.6Mb.
>
>Any advice on how or who could fix it would be most appreciated.
>
>Terry Mace
>BAE Systems
>Melbourne, Australia
>  
>

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Thu Nov 18 00:03:51 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 22:03:51 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] New Record wizard button fails
Message-ID: <001601c4cd34$635d9f50$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

On click it says I cant go to that record

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Thu Nov 18 02:06:37 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 09:06:37 +0100
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5537@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Thank you,  

I added the api function

Declare Function SHGetSpecialFolderLocation Lib "shell32.dll" (ByVal
hwndOwner As Long, ByVal nFolder As Long, pidl As ITEMIDLIST) As Long

To get the location of the favorites folder.
I modified some code that you can find in the excellent API guide on
http://www.mentalis.org/index2.shtml

Erwin






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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:34 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS

Here is the rest of the basic routines takes a couple of minutes for
10000 favourites I was amazed I only had 100 duplicates.


From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Thu Nov 18 02:23:50 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 09:23:50 +0100
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5538@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

It is without the scripting.

FSO As New FileSystemObject 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren DICK
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 4:13 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS

Hi Marty
I have Windows Script Host Object Model Referenced It still fails on the
line FSO As New Scripting.FileSystemObject The reference file is...
C:\Windows\System32\wshom.ocx
I have it at the top (Welll 3rd at least) of the available references

Can you remove you reference to it and decompile to see if it fails on
that line for you??

Many thanks

Darren

 

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Sent: Thursday, 18 November 2004 1:51 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS

Reference for scripting filesystem object Wshom.ocx Windows Script Host
Model generically known as WSH

You should be getting Http Url printed out with asterix in debug window
if it is working, before it is placed in the memo field, maybe a typo
name error in table or code

The code to test validity of url could be something like this with
request status being returned as 404 or 500 for invalid just like http
error codes; 200 for normal or good

The response Debug.Print HttpReq.StatusText will give you a better
explanation.

You should have some version of XML installed if using IE 6.0

'?testurlxml("http://www.microsoft.com")
Function testurlxml(strURL As String) As String
  Dim HttpReq As Object
  Set HttpReq = CreateObject("MSXML2.XMLHTTP")
  HttpReq.Open "GET", strURL, False
  HttpReq.send
  'Debug.Print HttpReq.responseText 'this is returned html string
  Debug.Print HttpReq.Status
  Debug.Print HttpReq.StatusText
  testurlxml = HttpReq.Status '200 normal End Function

You can also verify legality of url string Private Declare Function
PathIsURL Lib "shlwapi.dll" _
   Alias "PathIsURLA" _
  (ByVal pszPath As String) As Long



Private Function IsPathAURL(ByVal sPath As String) As Boolean

  'Tests a given string to determine if it
  'conforms to a valid URL format. Returns
  'True if sPath has a valid URL format,
  'or False otherwise.

  'This function does not verify that the
  'path points to an existing site, only
  'that it has a valid URL format.

   IsPathAURL = PathIsURL(sPath) = 1

End Function

Darren DICK wrote:

>Hi Marty
>Thanks for the reply
>Couple of Q's though :-))
>
>I can't compile past the...
>
>Dim FSO  as New Scripting.FileSystemObject
>
>What do I need to ref to get this to work?
>
>I tried alternative of....
>
>Set fso = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
>
>and managed to get it to compile and the code 'seemed' to work. In that

>it filled the temp table with what looked to be correct values - but 
>Dunno if this is the same
>
>The Public Function GetHTTPfromURL didn't seem to populate the HTTP 
>Column the temp table
>
>Once I do have all the relevant information in the table - how do I 
>actually tell if The link is live (or have I missed it in the code)
>
>Many thanks
>
>Darren
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
>MartyConnelly
>Sent: Thursday, 18 November 2004 7:11 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>
>I have some really rough code written for Win 95, let me see if I can 
>upgraded it but just grab all the ".url"  files in the sub directories 
>below that contain your favourites in win xp or win 2000 C:\Documents 
>and Settings\usename\Favorites then pass your .url filename to this 
>routine to drag out the http address Then pass http url string to 
>xmlhttp or winhttp this will return a 404 if not valid or 500 if server
gone etc.
>
>Public Function GetHTTPfromURL(FileNaam As String) As String Dim FSO As

>New Scripting.FileSystemObject Dim oFile As file Dim oText As 
>TextStream Dim strLine As String
>
>'grab the folder already so just get FileName 'Set oFolder =
>FSO.GetFolder(Path) Set oFile = FSO.GetFile(FileNaam)
>      Set oText = oFile.OpenAsTextStream
>      Do
>         strLine = oText.ReadLine 'contains [InternetShortcut]
>      Loop Until strLine = "[InternetShortcut]"
>      strLine = oText.ReadLine 'should contains URL=
>      oText.Close
>     
>   ' Open "C:\Windows\Favorites\" & Text1.Text & ".url" For Binary 
>Access Write As #1 ' Save the file.
>   'Open FileNaam For Binary Access Read As #1 ' Read the file.
>   ' Put #1, , "[InternetShortcut]" & vbNewLine & "URL=" & Text1.Text
>   'Get #1, , VarBuf
>   Debug.Print "**" & strLine & "**"
>   ' Close #1
>   ' MsgBox "URL sucessfully added to Favorites!", vbInformation
>   GetHTTPfromURL = strLine
>End Function
>
>Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Seeing this, I wunder if there is someone who has some code (and wants

>>to share it) to check all hyperlinks in the favorites of IE to see if 
>>the page/website still exists?
>>
>>Beeing on the internet for probably about 10 years now got me a lot of

>>favorites that are aged and no longer exists...
>>
>>I like to clean up (sometimes).
>>
>>Erwin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav 
>>Brock
>>Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:36 AM
>>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>>Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>>
>>Hi Darren
>>
>>We use these functions:
>>
>><code module>
>>
>>Private Declare Function URLDownloadToFile Lib "urlmon" Alias 
>>"URLDownloadToFileA" ( _  ByVal pCaller As Long, _  ByVal szURL As 
>>String, _  ByVal szFileName As String, _  ByVal dwReserved As Long, _ 
>>ByVal lpfnCB As Long) _  As Long
>>
>>Public Function IsURL(ByVal strURL As String) As Boolean
>>
>>' Usage: Check if URL strURL is alive and reachable.
>>'   booURL = IsURL("http://www.ibm.com")
>>'   booURL = IsURL("ftp://ftp.novell.com")
>>'
>>' Note: Protocol header like "http://" must be provided.
>>'
>>' 2001-12-09. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.
>>
>> ' File found at most URLs.
>> Const cstrFileIndex As String = "index.htm"
>>
>> IsURL = (URLDownloadToFile(0, strURL, cstrFileIndex, 0, 0) = 0)
>> 
>>End Function
>>
>></code module>
>>
>>If your URLs contains html document name you will have to modify the 
>>code to use that and not append index.html.
>>
>>/gustav
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>>>d.dick at uws.edu.au 17-11-2004 05:03:08 >>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>I have an educational client who has a CD full of Education URL's 
>>(Zillion's of 'em) Occasionally someone has to test to see if the 
>>links are broken or not (Manually <yuk>)
>>
>>I thought this would be a perfect application for Access Set up a 
>>table of URLs and loop through 'em and return TRUE or FALSE
>>
>>So...Is there a way I can type in
>>say...http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
>>and return "true" if the site exists or "false" if the site does not 
>>exist.
>>
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>>    
>>
>
>--
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>Victoria, B.C.
>Canada
>
>
>
>  
>

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov 18 03:42:06 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:42:06 +0100
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
Message-ID: <s19c7c97.026@cactus.dk>

Hi Darren
 
Not quite sure what you are doing. It will return one result only ...
index.htm is chosen as any site has this page. By second thought,
index.html is possible too, but I don't know (do we have a web guru
present?) - perhaps the function should be expanded to check for any of
these two files?
 
/gustav

>>> d.dick at uws.edu.au 18-11-2004 01:58:27 >>>

Hi Gustav
Many thanks
I'm not sure how to use the code though :-(( I get odd results

When I put isUrl ("http://www.ibm.com") behind a button on a form
and put debug.print IsURL at the end of Public Function IsURL
I get "true"
If I put msgbox IsYrl at the end of Public Function IsURL
I get false
??
Dunno what it all means

http://www.ibm.com is a valid and live website
How do it know if there will be an index.htm file at the other end?
And how come I get differeing results with MSGBOX and Debug.print?

Obviously doing something wrong

Many thanks in advance

Darren



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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav
Brock
Sent: Wednesday, 17 November 2004 8:36 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS

Hi Darren

We use these functions:

<code module>

Private Declare Function URLDownloadToFile Lib "urlmon" Alias
"URLDownloadToFileA" ( _
  ByVal pCaller As Long, _
  ByVal szURL As String, _
  ByVal szFileName As String, _
  ByVal dwReserved As Long, _
  ByVal lpfnCB As Long) _
  As Long

Public Function IsURL(ByVal strURL As String) As Boolean

' Usage: Check if URL strURL is alive and reachable.
'   booURL = IsURL("http://www.ibm.com")
'   booURL = IsURL("ftp://ftp.novell.com")
'
' Note: Protocol header like "http://" must be provided.
'
' 2001-12-09. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.

  ' File found at most URLs.
  Const cstrFileIndex As String = "index.htm"

  IsURL = (URLDownloadToFile(0, strURL, cstrFileIndex, 0, 0) = 0)
  
End Function

</code module>

If your URLs contains html document name you will have to modify the
code to
use that and not append index.html.

/gustav

>>> d.dick at uws.edu.au 17-11-2004 05:03:08 >>>

I have an educational client who has a CD full of Education URL's
(Zillion's
of 'em) Occasionally someone has to test to see if the links are broken
or
not (Manually <yuk>)

I thought this would be a perfect application for Access Set up a table
of
URLs and loop through 'em and return TRUE or FALSE

So...Is there a way I can type in
say...http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
and return "true" if the site exists or "false" if the site does not
exist.



From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Nov 18 03:09:56 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:09:56 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?
Message-ID: <20041118100955.0151024C988@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Morning all
I've a continuous screen which needs to list two types of order in date
sequence. These are held on separate tables. No problem, a UNION query does
the job fine. However the user has to tick an order to say it's despatched,
and then the screen needs to show that information, but the recordset is not
updatable. Presumably this applies to all UNION queries does it? Does anyone
have a way round this or do I have to go to extracting to a temp table and
all that jazz?

By the way it's not practical to upodate the underlying tables and requery
to display the depatch info because there's a lot of data on screen and
requerying takes too long.

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov 18 04:58:03 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:58:03 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?
Message-ID: <s19c8e67.028@cactus.dk>

Hi Andy
 
No, unions are read-only. If you can't go the update-behind-requery
route, I guess you are left with the temp table.
 
/gustav

>>> andy at minstersystems.co.uk 18-11-2004 10:09:56 >>>

Morning all
I've a continuous screen which needs to list two types of order in
date
sequence. These are held on separate tables. No problem, a UNION query
does
the job fine. However the user has to tick an order to say it's
despatched,
and then the screen needs to show that information, but the recordset
is not
updatable. Presumably this applies to all UNION queries does it? Does
anyone
have a way round this or do I have to go to extracting to a temp table
and
all that jazz?

By the way it's not practical to upodate the underlying tables and
requery
to display the depatch info because there's a lot of data on screen
and
requerying takes too long.

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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Thu Nov 18 05:25:04 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 06:25:04 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C415@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

1.  The form is based on a non-updateable record source.
2.  The form, in the properties box, has allow additions set to no.
3.  The user does not have permissions to create, edit, update, etc on
table in SQL.
4.  It is just a bad day.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 11:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.


Does the book on the tread mill say way a wizard button will not let you
go
to a new record


JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 7:56 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.

We all need a jolt sometimes.  I use Diet Pepsi or chocolate covered
coffee
beans.  And now of course I'm starting walking on a treadmill.  8-0

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:40 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.


Thanks for unmelting my mind  John

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 6:07 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.

File/get external data/link table

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 8:57 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.


Inherited database problem.

 

OK Stop laughing at me.

At least the original programmer is still there.

 

I added a table to the BE. I cant or can't remember how to make the FE
see
the new table to do forms and stuff.

 

Thanks

 

 

Joe Hecht

jmhla at earthlink.net

28g

 

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From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Thu Nov 18 05:26:29 2004
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:26:29 -0000
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C491@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>


Gustav

I'm not a guru but the "home page" for a website could be any of the
following list:

"index", "default"

with the extensions htm, html, shtm, shtml, cfm, asp, php and so on

I'm sure there are others!

HTH

Chris Foote

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk]
> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 9:42 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
> 
> 
> Hi Darren
>  
> Not quite sure what you are doing. It will return one result only ...
> index.htm is chosen as any site has this page. By second thought,
> index.html is possible too, but I don't know (do we have a web guru
> present?) - perhaps the function should be expanded to check 
> for any of
> these two files?
>  
> /gustav
> 


From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Thu Nov 18 05:49:52 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 06:49:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] New Record wizard button fails
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C418@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

1.  The form is based on a non-updateable record source.
2.  The form, in the properties box, has allow additions set to no.
3.  The user does not have permissions to create, edit, update, etc on
table in SQL.
4.  It is just a bad day.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 1:04 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] New Record wizard button fails


On click it says I cant go to that record

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net 

 



From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Nov 18 04:50:12 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:50:12 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?
Message-ID: <20041118115010.AB95725D353@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Feared that might be the case. Ah well, always worth asking the list cos if
there's a way someone here will know it. Thanks for the response Gustav.
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To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?
Date: 18/11/04 10:59

>
> Hi Andy
>
> No, unions are read-only. If you can't go the update-behind-requery
> route, I guess you are left with the temp table.
>
> /gustav
>
> &gt;&gt;&gt; andy at minstersystems.co.uk 18-11-2004 10:09:56 &gt;&gt;&gt;
>
> Morning all
> I've a continuous screen which needs to list two types of order in
> date
> sequence. These are held on separate tables. No problem, a UNION query
> does
> the job fine. However the user has to tick an order to say it's
> despatched,
> and then the screen needs to show that information, but the recordset
> is not
> updatable. Presumably this applies to all UNION queries does it? Does
> anyone
> have a way round this or do I have to go to extracting to a temp table
> and
> all that jazz?
>
> By the way it's not practical to upodate the underlying tables and
> requery
> to display the depatch info because there's a lot of data on screen
> and
> requerying takes too long.
>
> --
> Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Nov 18 07:09:33 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 08:09:33 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB9EA@ADGSERVER>

Hi all,

I have a report with several sub reports on it.  I had to modify a sub
report yesterday so that if a certain condition was met, I needed to make
the text in 2 fields bold.  The detail print event is where I was changing
it at.  In a non sub report, I just use the fontbold property.  Well, in the
case of the sub report, I could not set this value (or any normal value)
programmatically.  Intellisense would not show me what I wanted.  I ended up
using reports!MainReport!Subreport!control to set the fontbold property.

My question is, is that the proper way to handle this?  Or is there
something that I am not seeing?

Thanks,
Bobby

From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Nov 18 07:29:27 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 23:29:27 +1000
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
In-Reply-To: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C491@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>
Message-ID: <419D3057.18490.2206AC40@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 18 Nov 2004 at 11:26, Foote, Chris wrote:

> 
> Gustav
> 
> I'm not a guru but the "home page" for a website could be any of the
> following list:
> 
> "index", "default"
> 
> with the extensions htm, html, shtm, shtml, cfm, asp, php and so on
> 
> I'm sure there are others!
> 

And if there is no recognisable "home page", I think you will find it shows 
a directory listing.

Basically, the solution is to issue a HTTP "Get" (or preferably a "Head" so 
that you don't pull the full contents back) request and check the status 
code of the response:

RFC 2068:
<quote>
6 Response

   After receiving and interpreting a request message, a server responds
   with an HTTP response message.

       Response      = Status-Line               ; Section 6.1
                       *( general-header         ; Section 4.5
                        | response-header        ; Section 6.2
                        | entity-header )        ; Section 7.1
                       CRLF
                       [ message-body ]          ; Section 7.2

6.1 Status-Line

   The first line of a Response message is the Status-Line, consisting
   of the protocol version followed by a numeric status code and its
   associated textual phrase, with each element separated by SP
   characters.  No CR or LF is allowed except in the final CRLF
   sequence.



       Status-Line = HTTP-Version SP Status-Code SP Reason-Phrase CRLF

6.1.1 Status Code and Reason Phrase

   The Status-Code element is a 3-digit integer result code of the
   attempt to understand and satisfy the request. These codes are fully
   defined in section 10. The Reason-Phrase is intended to give a short
   textual description of the Status-Code. The Status-Code is intended
   for use by automata and the Reason-Phrase is intended for the human
   user. The client is not required to examine or display the Reason-
   Phrase.

   The first digit of the Status-Code defines the class of response. The
   last two digits do not have any categorization role. There are 5
   values for the first digit:

     o  1xx: Informational - Request received, continuing process

     o  2xx: Success - The action was successfully received, understood,
        and accepted

     o  3xx: Redirection - Further action must be taken in order to
        complete the request

     o  4xx: Client Error - The request contains bad syntax or cannot be
        fulfilled

     o  5xx: Server Error - The server failed to fulfill an apparently
        valid request

</quote>




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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Nov 18 06:31:20 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 13:31:20 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.
Message-ID: <20041118133118.3403B25D6DD@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Bobby
Intellisense doesn't show FontBold but it's still there. Just put
Me!YourControl.FontBold=True in the subreport and it'll work fine.

--
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--------- Original Message --------
From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
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To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.
Date: 18/11/04 13:09

> Hi all,
>
> I have a report with several sub reports on it.  I had to modify a sub
> report yesterday so that if a certain condition was met, I needed to make
> the text in 2 fields bold.  The detail print event is where I was changing
> it at.  In a non sub report, I just use the fontbold property.  Well, in
the
> case of the sub report, I could not set this value (or any normal value)
> programmatically.  Intellisense would not show me what I wanted.  I ended
up
> using reports!MainReport!Subreport!control to set the fontbold property.
>
> My question is, is that the proper way to handle this?  Or is there
> something that I am not seeing?
>
> Thanks,
> Bobby
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Nov 18 07:49:04 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 08:49:04 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30A2B5B1@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB9EB@ADGSERVER>

Andy,

I did try that.  It gave me an error when ran.  It also would not show me
visible or any of the other items you would normally see for a textbox.

Thanks,
Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:31 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Control reference question.


Bobby
Intellisense doesn't show FontBold but it's still there. Just put
Me!YourControl.FontBold=True in the subreport and it'll work fine.

--
Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



--------- Original Message --------
From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.
Date: 18/11/04 13:09

> Hi all,
>
> I have a report with several sub reports on it.  I had to modify a sub 
> report yesterday so that if a certain condition was met, I needed to 
> make the text in 2 fields bold.  The detail print event is where I was 
> changing it at.  In a non sub report, I just use the fontbold 
> property.  Well, in
the
> case of the sub report, I could not set this value (or any normal 
> value) programmatically.  Intellisense would not show me what I 
> wanted.  I ended
up
> using reports!MainReport!Subreport!control to set the fontbold 
> property.
>
> My question is, is that the proper way to handle this?  Or is there 
> something that I am not seeing?
>
> Thanks,
> Bobby
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
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From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Thu Nov 18 08:05:45 2004
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 09:05:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB9EB@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAOEJCCIAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

Reports have several properties not shown in intellisense.

Visible is one.  I use it all the time though.  There are several I use not
shown, but work perfectly.

I can't give you a solution but I can ensure you that you aren't nuts.

If the condition to check is on the main form I reference the subform using
me.subreportname.controlname.property = whatever

Does anyone have an explanation for the lack of properties showing in
intellisense?  Is it corrected in versions after 2000?

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 8:49 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.


Andy,

I did try that.  It gave me an error when ran.  It also would not show me
visible or any of the other items you would normally see for a textbox.

Thanks,
Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:31 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Control reference question.


Bobby
Intellisense doesn't show FontBold but it's still there. Just put
Me!YourControl.FontBold=True in the subreport and it'll work fine.

--
Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



--------- Original Message --------
From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.
Date: 18/11/04 13:09

> Hi all,
>
> I have a report with several sub reports on it.  I had to modify a sub
> report yesterday so that if a certain condition was met, I needed to
> make the text in 2 fields bold.  The detail print event is where I was
> changing it at.  In a non sub report, I just use the fontbold
> property.  Well, in
the
> case of the sub report, I could not set this value (or any normal
> value) programmatically.  Intellisense would not show me what I
> wanted.  I ended
up
> using reports!MainReport!Subreport!control to set the fontbold
> property.
>
> My question is, is that the proper way to handle this?  Or is there
> something that I am not seeing?
>
> Thanks,
> Bobby
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
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>

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Nov 18 08:24:26 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 09:24:26 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.
In-Reply-To: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAOEJCCIAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>
Message-ID: <002201c4cd7a$5000cb30$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

My take was always that the ones that are not visible are "undocumented" -
perhaps lingering bugs make their usage a potential maintenance issue.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Reuben Cummings
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 9:06 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.


Reports have several properties not shown in intellisense.

Visible is one.  I use it all the time though.  There are several I use not
shown, but work perfectly.

I can't give you a solution but I can ensure you that you aren't nuts.

If the condition to check is on the main form I reference the subform using
me.subreportname.controlname.property = whatever

Does anyone have an explanation for the lack of properties showing in
intellisense?  Is it corrected in versions after 2000?

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 8:49 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.


Andy,

I did try that.  It gave me an error when ran.  It also would not show me
visible or any of the other items you would normally see for a textbox.

Thanks,
Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:31 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Control reference question.


Bobby
Intellisense doesn't show FontBold but it's still there. Just put
Me!YourControl.FontBold=True in the subreport and it'll work fine.

--
Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



--------- Original Message --------
From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.
Date: 18/11/04 13:09

> Hi all,
>
> I have a report with several sub reports on it.  I had to modify a sub 
> report yesterday so that if a certain condition was met, I needed to 
> make the text in 2 fields bold.  The detail print event is where I was 
> changing it at.  In a non sub report, I just use the fontbold 
> property.  Well, in
the
> case of the sub report, I could not set this value (or any normal
> value) programmatically.  Intellisense would not show me what I 
> wanted.  I ended
up
> using reports!MainReport!Subreport!control to set the fontbold 
> property.
>
> My question is, is that the proper way to handle this?  Or is there 
> something that I am not seeing?
>
> Thanks,
> Bobby
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Nov 18 08:29:09 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 09:29:09 -0500
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F3397C@nprdex02.nns.com>

Darren,

When doing maintenance on my departmental website, I use Xenu's Link Sleuth.
I am fairly certain that it is still free to download.
http://home.snafu.de/tilman/xenulink.html  Not only can it verify links
within a website, but for you purposes I believe it will verify a simple
text listing of URLs.

It is extremely fast.


Mark



>>> d.dick at uws.edu.au 17-11-2004 05:03:08 >>>

I have an educational client who has a CD full of Education URL's
(Zillion's of 'em)
Occasionally someone has to test to see if the links are broken or not
(Manually <yuk>)

I thought this would be a perfect application for Access
Set up a table of URLs and loop through 'em and return TRUE or FALSE

So...Is there a way I can type in
say...http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
and return "true" if the site exists or "false" if the site does not
exist.
 


From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Nov 18 08:09:02 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 15:09:02 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.
Message-ID: <20041118150859.4F9052567AC@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Well I don't understand that. just tried it on a report and it worked fine.
Do you want to post the whole line of code that errored?

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--------- Original Message --------
From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.
Date: 18/11/04 13:49

>
> Andy,
>
> I did try that.  It gave me an error when ran.  It also would not show me
> visible or any of the other items you would normally see for a textbox.
>
> Thanks,
> Bobby
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:31 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Control reference question.
>
>
> Bobby
> Intellisense doesn't show FontBold but it's still there. Just put
> Me!YourControl.FontBold=True in the subreport and it'll work fine.
>
> --
> Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>
>
>
> --------- Original Message --------
> From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> &lt;accessd at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> &lt;accessd at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.
> Date: 18/11/04 13:09
>
> &gt; Hi all,
> &gt;
> &gt; I have a report with several sub reports on it.  I had to modify a
sub
> &gt; report yesterday so that if a certain condition was met, I needed to
> &gt; make the text in 2 fields bold.  The detail print event is where I
was
> &gt; changing it at.  In a non sub report, I just use the fontbold
> &gt; property.  Well, in
> the
> &gt; case of the sub report, I could not set this value (or any normal
> &gt; value) programmatically.  Intellisense would not show me what I
> &gt; wanted.  I ended
> up
> &gt; using reports!MainReport!Subreport!control to set the fontbold
> &gt; property.
> &gt;
> &gt; My question is, is that the proper way to handle this?  Or is there
> &gt; something that I am not seeing?
> &gt;
> &gt; Thanks,
> &gt; Bobby
> &gt;
> &gt;
> &gt;
> &gt;
> &gt;
> &gt;
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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Thu Nov 18 09:09:04 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 09:09:04 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Test Voracity of URLS
In-Reply-To: <200411181429.iAIEThL10841@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041118090652.012abc40@pop3.highstream.net>

Actually, it can be anything that you define for the site.
Index is common, but so is Default.  And, the extension is
the same way; htm, html, aspx, asp, etc.

When you set the starting page for a web site, it can be
anything and have any extension.

At 08:29 AM 11/18/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:42:06 +0100
>From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
>Subject: RE: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <s19c7c97.026 at cactus.dk>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
>Hi Darren
>
>Not quite sure what you are doing. It will return one result only ...
>index.htm is chosen as any site has this page. By second thought,
>index.html is possible too, but I don't know (do we have a web guru
>present?) - perhaps the function should be expanded to check for any of
>these two files?
>
>/gustav
>
> >>> d.dick at uws.edu.au 18-11-2004 01:58:27 >>>
>
>Hi Gustav
>Many thanks
>I'm not sure how to use the code though :-(( I get odd results
>
>When I put isUrl ("http://www.ibm.com") behind a button on a form
>and put debug.print IsURL at the end of Public Function IsURL
>I get "true"
>If I put msgbox IsYrl at the end of Public Function IsURL
>I get false
>??
>Dunno what it all means
>
>http://www.ibm.com is a valid and live website
>How do it know if there will be an index.htm file at the other end?
>And how come I get differeing results with MSGBOX and Debug.print?
>
>Obviously doing something wrong
>
>Many thanks in advance
>
>Darren




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov 18 09:23:26 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 16:23:26 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Test Voracity of URLS
Message-ID: <s19ccc8d.001@cactus.dk>

OK, I realize "my" method (which isn't mine) is far from perfect.
 
While checking thousands of URLs which is not very common for most of
us, checking one or two is realistic. 
So how would a neat IsURL() function look like given the knowledge we
now have?
 
/gustav

>>> rl_stewart at highstream.net 18-11-2004 16:09:04 >>>

Actually, it can be anything that you define for the site.
Index is common, but so is Default.  And, the extension is
the same way; htm, html, aspx, asp, etc.

When you set the starting page for a web site, it can be
anything and have any extension.

At 08:29 AM 11/18/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:42:06 +0100
>From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
>Subject: RE: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <s19c7c97.026 at cactus.dk>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
>Hi Darren
>
>Not quite sure what you are doing. It will return one result only ...
>index.htm is chosen as any site has this page. By second thought,
>index.html is possible too, but I don't know (do we have a web guru
>present?) - perhaps the function should be expanded to check for any
of
>these two files?
>
>/gustav
>
> >>> d.dick at uws.edu.au 18-11-2004 01:58:27 >>>
>
>Hi Gustav
>Many thanks
>I'm not sure how to use the code though :-(( I get odd results
>
>When I put isUrl ("http://www.ibm.com") behind a button on a form
>and put debug.print IsURL at the end of Public Function IsURL
>I get "true"
>If I put msgbox IsYrl at the end of Public Function IsURL
>I get false
>??
>Dunno what it all means
>
>http://www.ibm.com is a valid and live website
>How do it know if there will be an index.htm file at the other end?
>And how come I get differeing results with MSGBOX and Debug.print?
>
>Obviously doing something wrong
>
>Many thanks in advance
>
>Darren



From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Nov 18 09:46:05 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:46:05 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS - Repost
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33980@nprdex02.nns.com>

Darren,

When doing maintenance on my departmental website, I use Xenu's Link Sleuth.
I am fairly certain that it is still free to download.
http://home.snafu.de/tilman/xenulink.html  Not only can it verify links
within a website, but for you purposes I believe it will verify a simple
text listing of URLs.

It is extremely fast.


Mark


From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Nov 18 09:53:24 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:53:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30A2B60A@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB9F1@ADGSERVER>

Now this is really weird.  I played with it for over an hour yesterday and
could not get it to work no matter how I changed it.  I went back in a few
minutes ago and changed the code from:


   With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub
      If txtSetBold <> 0 Then
         !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         Else
            !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
            !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
         End If
      End With

TO 


   With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub
      If txtSetBold <> 0 Then
         txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         Else
            txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
            txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
         End If
      End With

And it now works.  I hate it when Access does this to me.

Thanks all.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 9:09 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.


Well I don't understand that. just tried it on a report and it worked fine.
Do you want to post the whole line of code that errored?

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Thu Nov 18 09:52:19 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 09:52:19 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.
In-Reply-To: <11531066.1100783288953.JavaMail.root@sniper13.securence.com>
Message-ID: <001701c4cd86$9674b840$de1811d8@danwaters>

Bobby,

I believe that the Print event is too late in the sequence of report events.
Try using the section's Format event or the report's Activate event.

You could also try using Conditional Formatting!

Dan Waters
ProMation Systems

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Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.

Hi all,

I have a report with several sub reports on it.  I had to modify a sub
report yesterday so that if a certain condition was met, I needed to make
the text in 2 fields bold.  The detail print event is where I was changing
it at.  In a non sub report, I just use the fontbold property.  Well, in the
case of the sub report, I could not set this value (or any normal value)
programmatically.  Intellisense would not show me what I wanted.  I ended up
using reports!MainReport!Subreport!control to set the fontbold property.

My question is, is that the proper way to handle this?  Or is there
something that I am not seeing?

Thanks,
Bobby



From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Nov 18 10:05:42 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:05:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30A2B65C@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB9F2@ADGSERVER>

Hey Dan,

>From Access help:

FontBold Property
You can use the FontBold property to specify whether a font appears in a
bold style in the following situations: 

When displaying or printing controls on forms and reports.


When using the Print method on a report. 

It is my understanding (which may be wrong) that the print event should be
used to change the way an existing item looks (bold, background, etc.) and
that format should be used when an item may or may not print (visibility,
etc.) and changing an item could cause the current item to possibly be moved
to the next page or something like that.

Bobby


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 10:52 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.


Bobby,

I believe that the Print event is too late in the sequence of report events.
Try using the section's Format event or the report's Activate event.

You could also try using Conditional Formatting!

Dan Waters
ProMation Systems

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.

Hi all,

I have a report with several sub reports on it.  I had to modify a sub
report yesterday so that if a certain condition was met, I needed to make
the text in 2 fields bold.  The detail print event is where I was changing
it at.  In a non sub report, I just use the fontbold property.  Well, in the
case of the sub report, I could not set this value (or any normal value)
programmatically.  Intellisense would not show me what I wanted.  I ended up
using reports!MainReport!Subreport!control to set the fontbold property.

My question is, is that the proper way to handle this?  Or is there
something that I am not seeing?

Thanks,
Bobby

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov 18 10:09:02 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 17:09:02 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.
Message-ID: <s19cd748.004@cactus.dk>

Hi Bobby
 
Shouldn't it read:
 
   With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub.Report
      If !txtSetBold <> 0 Then
         !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
      Else
         !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
         !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
      End If
   End With

/gustav

>>> bheid at appdevgrp.com 18-11-2004 16:53:24 >>>

Now this is really weird.  I played with it for over an hour yesterday
and
could not get it to work no matter how I changed it.  I went back in a
few
minutes ago and changed the code from:


   With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub
      If txtSetBold <> 0 Then
         !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         Else
            !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
            !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
         End If
      End With

TO 


   With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub
      If txtSetBold <> 0 Then
         txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         Else
            txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
            txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
         End If
      End With

And it now works.  I hate it when Access does this to me.

Thanks all.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 9:09 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.


Well I don't understand that. just tried it on a report and it worked
fine.
Do you want to post the whole line of code that errored?

--
Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Nov 18 10:30:50 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:30:50 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30A2B67C@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB9F3@ADGSERVER>

I dunno, it works as I have it.  I have never used Report on the end like
you have it.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:09 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.


Hi Bobby
 
Shouldn't it read:
 
   With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub.Report
      If !txtSetBold <> 0 Then
         !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
      Else
         !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
         !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
      End If
   End With

/gustav

>>> bheid at appdevgrp.com 18-11-2004 16:53:24 >>>

Now this is really weird.  I played with it for over an hour yesterday and
could not get it to work no matter how I changed it.  I went back in a few
minutes ago and changed the code from:


   With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub
      If txtSetBold <> 0 Then
         !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         Else
            !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
            !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
         End If
      End With

TO 


   With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub
      If txtSetBold <> 0 Then
         txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         Else
            txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
            txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
         End If
      End With

And it now works.  I hate it when Access does this to me.

Thanks all.

Bobby



From Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us  Thu Nov 18 11:05:07 2004
From: Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us (O'Connor, Patricia (OTDA))
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 12:05:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: ODBC against Oracle partitioned db
Message-ID: <B94C79B465542042AB0748EAF37F9AC0A427C0@EXCNYSM0A1AB.nysemail.nyenet>


What is TOAD?

I was wondering whether the newest Oracle ODBC driver would solve it. We
still have the 9.x one.

Thanks
Patti
******************************************************************
*Patricia O'Connor
*Associate Computer Programmer Analyst
*OTDA - BDMA
*(W) mailto:Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us
*(w) mailto:aa1160 at dfa.state.ny.us
******************************************************************
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Robert L. Stewart
> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 02:56 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Re: ODBC against Oracle partitioned db
> 
> As you can see, Access and the ODBC driver has trouble with a 
> partioned table.
> 
> Use Toad or something like it for the type of things you 
> would do in running queries and viewing data.  Since it is 
> written for Oracle, it plays with it better.
> 
> Robert
> 
> At 12:01 PM 11/16/2004 -0600, you wrote:
> >Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 10:28:49 -0500
> >From: "O'Connor, Patricia \(OTDA\)"
> >         <Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us>
> >Subject: [AccessD] ODBC against Oracle partitioned db
> >To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> >         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Message-ID:
> >         
> <B94C79B465542042AB0748EAF37F9AC0A427B1 at EXCNYSM0A1AB.nysemail.nyenet>
> >Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
> >
> >Hi all
> >
> >When I use the Oracle ODBC driver against an ORACLE un-partitioned 
> >table from Access (either passthru or gui), I have not problem. Data 
> >comes back can scroll through 1-30+K records no problem.
> >
> >When I use same driver against an Oracle partitioned table 
> from access, 
> >I get temporary freeze ups when scrolling through records even 
> >scrolling from column 1 to say col 10 on screen. It doesn't 
> matter how 
> >many records in set - scroll down 3-6 records - stop. Sometimes the 
> >stall can be 2-5 minutes.
> >
> >Doesn't matter if it is the only thing running on computer. I do not 
> >have this problem with an unpartioned set.  I waste a good amount of 
> >time waiting for access to let me back in.
> >
> >Has anyone run into this and is there a workaround or 
> setting I need to 
> >change in the driver configuration.  My machine is Win2k, Access2k, 
> >Oracle10
> >
> >Thanks in advance
> >Patti
> 
> 
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From donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com  Thu Nov 18 11:11:37 2004
From: donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com (Mcgillivray, Donald [ITS])
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:11:37 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Need a summary query to return more than one record for a
	member of a group
Message-ID: <988E2AC88CCB54459286C4077DB662F502857E74@PDAWB03C.ad.sprint.com>

Hi, All

I have a table of data, populated by an automated mail insertion system,
containing the following fields:

JobID 
MachineID
OperatorID
PieceID
InsertTime (Date + Time)

The system writes a record for each piece that is inserted by the
system.  Typically, there will be a single operator working a job on a
machine, but on larger jobs an operator's shift may be interrupted by
another operator (relief during breaks, technicians making adjustments,
repairs, etc.)  When these interruptions occur, the interrupter logs in
and any work processed during the interruption is logged under the
interrupter's ID.  Then when the original operator returns, s/he logs in
and subsequent work is logged under that ID.  A summary query grouped on
JobID, MachineID, and OperatorID, with count of PieceID and min and max
of InsertTime gives me a single record for each operator showing piece
count and start and end time.  However, the delta between the min and
max times does not reflect the actual elapsed time for each, since the
original operator's min and max times encompass the period when the
interrupter was logged in as well.  

I know I could loop thru the records incrementing counters and write a
record to a table when a change in operator is detected, but my
preference is to capture elapsed run time for each operator using a
single query.  Anybody know if/how I can return more than one record for
a member of a group in a summary query?

Don McGillivray
Sprint Mailing Services


From kaupca at chevrontexaco.com  Thu Nov 18 11:23:12 2004
From: kaupca at chevrontexaco.com (Kaup, Chester A)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:23:12 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Query of query results problem
Message-ID: <1375769556091B4DAABC159F944CA1BB07A2D9@bocnte2k4.hou150.chevrontexaco.net>

I have a query with no formatting in it that generates numbers with
various numbers of digits after the decimal place. When I run a query
against this query with no number formatting the result in integers (all
decimal precision is gone). What is happening here?

Chester Kaup
Information Management Technician
IT-MidContinent/MidContinent Business Unit
CTN 8-687-7415  
Outside 432-687-7415

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From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Thu Nov 18 11:23:36 2004
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 12:23:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] WithEvents - Why doesn't my Access like it?
Message-ID: <419CDA98.8050300@torchlake.com>

Hello all you gurus -
Is WithEvents not an acceptable keyword in AccessXP (file format Access 
2000)?  I am playing with code from John Colby's demos, and in my 
module, which is a straight copy of his, the line
"Private WithEvents mtxt As TextBox" is red, which usually means Visual 
Basic doesn't recognize the keywords I've used.  Is there a version 
problem possibly?  My VBA says it is 6.3.8863.  Any clues here would be 
very much appreciated.  It's especially confusing to me, since in John's 
code the keywords remain a nice blue.  What am I missing?
Tina



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov 18 11:37:27 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 18:37:27 +0100
Subject: Svar: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.
Message-ID: <s19cec03.013@cactus.dk>

Hi Bobby
 
What happens if you try?
The use of .Report should be the recommended syntax ...
 
/gustav

>>> bheid at appdevgrp.com 18-11-2004 17:30:50 >>>

I dunno, it works as I have it.  I have never used Report on the end
like
you have it.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav
Brock
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:09 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.


Hi Bobby

Shouldn't it read:

   With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub.Report
      If !txtSetBold <> 0 Then
         !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
      Else
         !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
         !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
      End If
   End With

/gustav

>>> bheid at appdevgrp.com 18-11-2004 16:53:24 >>>

Now this is really weird.  I played with it for over an hour yesterday
and
could not get it to work no matter how I changed it.  I went back in a
few
minutes ago and changed the code from:


   With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub
      If txtSetBold <> 0 Then
         !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         Else
            !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
            !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
         End If
      End With

TO 


   With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub
      If txtSetBold <> 0 Then
         txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         Else
            txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
            txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
         End If
      End With

And it now works.  I hate it when Access does this to me.

Thanks all.

Bobby



From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Thu Nov 18 11:43:29 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 12:43:29 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query of query results problem
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C423@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

Isn't there something about a calculation inheriting the format of the,
what I think of, the simplest format?  What if you set the formatting in
the second query in the query itself to like a double and specify the
number of decimals?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
A
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:23 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Query of query results problem


I have a query with no formatting in it that generates numbers with
various numbers of digits after the decimal place. When I run a query
against this query with no number formatting the result in integers (all
decimal precision is gone). What is happening here?

Chester Kaup
Information Management Technician
IT-MidContinent/MidContinent Business Unit
CTN 8-687-7415  
Outside 432-687-7415

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number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 



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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Nov 18 11:48:05 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 12:48:05 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] WithEvents - Why doesn't my Access like it?
In-Reply-To: <419CDA98.8050300@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <003c01c4cd96$c24421d0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

You copied and pasted from my demo and it is not compiling?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris
Fields
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:24 PM
To: DatabaseAdvisors-Access
Subject: [AccessD] WithEvents - Why doesn't my Access like it?


Hello all you gurus -
Is WithEvents not an acceptable keyword in AccessXP (file format Access 
2000)?  I am playing with code from John Colby's demos, and in my 
module, which is a straight copy of his, the line
"Private WithEvents mtxt As TextBox" is red, which usually means Visual 
Basic doesn't recognize the keywords I've used.  Is there a version 
problem possibly?  My VBA says it is 6.3.8863.  Any clues here would be 
very much appreciated.  It's especially confusing to me, since in John's 
code the keywords remain a nice blue.  What am I missing?
Tina

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From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Thu Nov 18 11:57:01 2004
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 12:57:01 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] WithEvents - Why doesn't my Access like it?
References: <003c01c4cd96$c24421d0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <419CE26D.9090909@torchlake.com>

Okay, I just figured it out.  What I failed to do was make sure I was 
creating a class module!  Arrgh!  I'm banging my head against the wall. 
 Thanks for responding.  It's been a long few days.
Tina

John W. Colby wrote:

>You copied and pasted from my demo and it is not compiling?
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com 
>
>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris
>Fields
>Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:24 PM
>To: DatabaseAdvisors-Access
>Subject: [AccessD] WithEvents - Why doesn't my Access like it?
>
>
>Hello all you gurus -
>Is WithEvents not an acceptable keyword in AccessXP (file format Access 
>2000)?  I am playing with code from John Colby's demos, and in my 
>module, which is a straight copy of his, the line
>"Private WithEvents mtxt As TextBox" is red, which usually means Visual 
>Basic doesn't recognize the keywords I've used.  Is there a version 
>problem possibly?  My VBA says it is 6.3.8863.  Any clues here would be 
>very much appreciated.  It's especially confusing to me, since in John's 
>code the keywords remain a nice blue.  What am I missing?
>Tina
>
>  
>




From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Nov 18 12:03:34 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:03:34 -0800
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
In-Reply-To: <s19c7c97.026@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIOEFDCIAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

General comment

Any file extension and file name can be setup as default initial web site
code. Html (variations htm, htlms...), and is just one extension type but
'pl' (perl), 'asp and aspx' asp/net, 'php', 'jsp', 'xml' to name a few, are
just as valid and standard. As for names, anything goes. The most common are
of course 'index', but 'homepage' is a standard when using MS FP. It is all
set up on your IIS or Apache, in the properties per hosted web site. Most
sites are fairly standard but I have seen some odd variations over the
years. In a nutshell, everything goes.

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 1:42 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS


Hi Darren

Not quite sure what you are doing. It will return one result only ...
index.htm is chosen as any site has this page. By second thought,
index.html is possible too, but I don't know (do we have a web guru
present?) - perhaps the function should be expanded to check for any of
these two files?

/gustav

>>> d.dick at uws.edu.au 18-11-2004 01:58:27 >>>

Hi Gustav
Many thanks
I'm not sure how to use the code though :-(( I get odd results

When I put isUrl ("http://www.ibm.com") behind a button on a form
and put debug.print IsURL at the end of Public Function IsURL
I get "true"
If I put msgbox IsYrl at the end of Public Function IsURL
I get false
??
Dunno what it all means

http://www.ibm.com is a valid and live website
How do it know if there will be an index.htm file at the other end?
And how come I get differeing results with MSGBOX and Debug.print?

Obviously doing something wrong

Many thanks in advance

Darren



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav
Brock
Sent: Wednesday, 17 November 2004 8:36 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS

Hi Darren

We use these functions:

<code module>

Private Declare Function URLDownloadToFile Lib "urlmon" Alias
"URLDownloadToFileA" ( _
  ByVal pCaller As Long, _
  ByVal szURL As String, _
  ByVal szFileName As String, _
  ByVal dwReserved As Long, _
  ByVal lpfnCB As Long) _
  As Long

Public Function IsURL(ByVal strURL As String) As Boolean

' Usage: Check if URL strURL is alive and reachable.
'   booURL = IsURL("http://www.ibm.com")
'   booURL = IsURL("ftp://ftp.novell.com")
'
' Note: Protocol header like "http://" must be provided.
'
' 2001-12-09. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.

  ' File found at most URLs.
  Const cstrFileIndex As String = "index.htm"

  IsURL = (URLDownloadToFile(0, strURL, cstrFileIndex, 0, 0) = 0)

End Function

</code module>

If your URLs contains html document name you will have to modify the
code to
use that and not append index.html.

/gustav

>>> d.dick at uws.edu.au 17-11-2004 05:03:08 >>>

I have an educational client who has a CD full of Education URL's
(Zillion's
of 'em) Occasionally someone has to test to see if the links are broken
or
not (Manually <yuk>)

I thought this would be a perfect application for Access Set up a table
of
URLs and loop through 'em and return TRUE or FALSE

So...Is there a way I can type in
say...http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
and return "true" if the site exists or "false" if the site does not
exist.

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov 18 12:06:50 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 19:06:50 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Need a summary query to return more than one
	record for amember of a group
Message-ID: <s19cf2f1.014@cactus.dk>

Hi Don
 
You need to, for each record, look up the date/time of the next entry
and calculate the minutes:
 
  lngMinutes: DateDiff("n", InsertTime, (Select Top 1 T.InsertTime From
tblTable As T Where T.InsertTime > tblTable.InsertTime Order By
T.InsertTime Asc)
 
The sum the minutes by grouping in another query where you use the
above as source.
 
/gustav

>>> donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com 18-11-2004 18:11:37 >>>

Hi, All

I have a table of data, populated by an automated mail insertion
system,
containing the following fields:

JobID 
MachineID
OperatorID
PieceID
InsertTime (Date + Time)

The system writes a record for each piece that is inserted by the
system.  Typically, there will be a single operator working a job on a
machine, but on larger jobs an operator's shift may be interrupted by
another operator (relief during breaks, technicians making
adjustments,
repairs, etc.)  When these interruptions occur, the interrupter logs
in
and any work processed during the interruption is logged under the
interrupter's ID.  Then when the original operator returns, s/he logs
in
and subsequent work is logged under that ID.  A summary query grouped
on
JobID, MachineID, and OperatorID, with count of PieceID and min and
max
of InsertTime gives me a single record for each operator showing piece
count and start and end time.  However, the delta between the min and
max times does not reflect the actual elapsed time for each, since the
original operator's min and max times encompass the period when the
interrupter was logged in as well.  

I know I could loop thru the records incrementing counters and write a
record to a table when a change in operator is detected, but my
preference is to capture elapsed run time for each operator using a
single query.  Anybody know if/how I can return more than one record
for
a member of a group in a summary query?

Don McGillivray
Sprint Mailing Services



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Nov 18 12:12:49 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 13:12:49 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] WithEvents - Why doesn't my Access like it?
In-Reply-To: <419CE26D.9090909@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <003e01c4cd9a$365ed9e0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

LOL>  Yea, it should tell you that syntax is not valid outside of a class or
something similar.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris
Fields
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:57 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] WithEvents - Why doesn't my Access like it?


Okay, I just figured it out.  What I failed to do was make sure I was 
creating a class module!  Arrgh!  I'm banging my head against the wall. 
 Thanks for responding.  It's been a long few days.
Tina

John W. Colby wrote:

>You copied and pasted from my demo and it is not compiling?
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris 
>Fields
>Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:24 PM
>To: DatabaseAdvisors-Access
>Subject: [AccessD] WithEvents - Why doesn't my Access like it?
>
>
>Hello all you gurus -
>Is WithEvents not an acceptable keyword in AccessXP (file format Access
>2000)?  I am playing with code from John Colby's demos, and in my 
>module, which is a straight copy of his, the line
>"Private WithEvents mtxt As TextBox" is red, which usually means Visual 
>Basic doesn't recognize the keywords I've used.  Is there a version 
>problem possibly?  My VBA says it is 6.3.8863.  Any clues here would be 
>very much appreciated.  It's especially confusing to me, since in John's 
>code the keywords remain a nice blue.  What am I missing?
>Tina
>
>  
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Nov 18 12:13:43 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:13:43 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB9F1@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIGEFECIAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

What is standard is that there is none.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:53 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.


Now this is really weird.  I played with it for over an hour yesterday and
could not get it to work no matter how I changed it.  I went back in a few
minutes ago and changed the code from:


   With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub
      If txtSetBold <> 0 Then
         !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         Else
            !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
            !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
         End If
      End With

TO 


   With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub
      If txtSetBold <> 0 Then
         txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         Else
            txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
            txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
         End If
      End With

And it now works.  I hate it when Access does this to me.

Thanks all.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 9:09 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.


Well I don't understand that. just tried it on a report and it worked fine.
Do you want to post the whole line of code that errored?

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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Nov 18 12:26:38 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 13:26:38 -0500
Subject: Svar: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30A2B702@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB9F7@ADGSERVER>

Gustav,

Yes, that works also.  Why would I need to put .Report on the end?  It
already knows it is in the Reports collection?  

I have never seen anything like that when referencing something on a form
either?  Is there a .Form for the forms?

Also, what is Svar in the subject?

Thanks,
Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:37 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Svar: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.


Hi Bobby
 
What happens if you try?
The use of .Report should be the recommended syntax ...
 
/gustav

>>> bheid at appdevgrp.com 18-11-2004 17:30:50 >>>

I dunno, it works as I have it.  I have never used Report on the end like
you have it.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:09 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.


Hi Bobby

Shouldn't it read:

   With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub.Report
      If !txtSetBold <> 0 Then
         !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
      Else
         !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
         !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
      End If
   End With

/gustav

>>> bheid at appdevgrp.com 18-11-2004 16:53:24 >>>

Now this is really weird.  I played with it for over an hour yesterday and
could not get it to work no matter how I changed it.  I went back in a few
minutes ago and changed the code from:


   With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub
      If txtSetBold <> 0 Then
         !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         Else
            !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
            !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
         End If
      End With

TO 


   With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub
      If txtSetBold <> 0 Then
         txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         Else
            txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
            txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
         End If
      End With

And it now works.  I hate it when Access does this to me.

Thanks all.

Bobby



From lists at theopg.com  Thu Nov 18 12:28:41 2004
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 18:28:41 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Accessing data in secured mdb from another secured mdb on
	a different workgroup
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20041116135414.01419f28@pop3.highstream.net>
Message-ID: <000f01c4cd9c$6f150fa0$0e0b6bd5@netboxxp>

Hello All (I sent his yesterday but it didn';t seem to get through...)

Using AXP on WinXP

I have two databases secured on different workgroups and accessed from
different front ends. I need to be able to import data from one into the
other but am having problems as they are secured on different mdw's. I
could merge the two mdw's but that would be a bit of a pain.

Anyone know a simple solution?

Thanks in advance

Mark



From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Thu Nov 18 12:47:09 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 12:47:09 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Control reference question.
In-Reply-To: <200411181801.iAII1CL28773@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041118124620.047d7308@pop3.highstream.net>

If you are working with a subReport, the Gustav is correct.
Reports and forms are the same in referencing controls in a
sub.

Robert

At 12:01 PM 11/18/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:30:50 -0500
>From: "Bobby Heid" <bheid at appdevgrp.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB9F3 at ADGSERVER>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="US-ASCII"
>
>I dunno, it works as I have it.  I have never used Report on the end like
>you have it.
>
>Bobby
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:09 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.
>
>
>Hi Bobby
>
>Shouldn't it read:
>
>    With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub.Report
>       If !txtSetBold <> 0 Then
>          !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
>          !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
>       Else
>          !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
>          !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
>       End If
>    End With
>
>/gustav




From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Thu Nov 18 12:48:44 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 12:48:44 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Re: ODBC against Oracle partitioned db
In-Reply-To: <200411181801.iAII1CL28773@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041118124816.013f0c68@pop3.highstream.net>

Take a look at http://www.quest.com/toad/

Robert

At 12:01 PM 11/18/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 12:05:07 -0500
>From: "O'Connor, Patricia \(OTDA\)"
>         <Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: ODBC against Oracle partitioned db
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID:
>         <B94C79B465542042AB0748EAF37F9AC0A427C0 at EXCNYSM0A1AB.nysemail.nyenet>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>
>What is TOAD?
>
>I was wondering whether the newest Oracle ODBC driver would solve it. We
>still have the 9.x one.
>
>Thanks
>Patti




From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Thu Nov 18 12:49:57 2004
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 13:49:57 -0500
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
References: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIOEFDCIAA.accessd@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <419CEED5.3000105@torchlake.com>

Okay, I can't resist any longer - didn't anybody else laugh about this 
subject line?  How hungry does a URL have to be before it becomes 
voracious and we have to test its voracity?
LOL
Tina

Jim Lawrence (AccessD) wrote:

>General comment
>
>Any file extension and file name can be setup as default initial web site
>code. Html (variations htm, htlms...), and is just one extension type but
>'pl' (perl), 'asp and aspx' asp/net, 'php', 'jsp', 'xml' to name a few, are
>just as valid and standard. As for names, anything goes. The most common are
>of course 'index', but 'homepage' is a standard when using MS FP. It is all
>set up on your IIS or Apache, in the properties per hosted web site. Most
>sites are fairly standard but I have seen some odd variations over the
>years. In a nutshell, everything goes.
>
>HTH
>Jim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 1:42 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>
>
>Hi Darren
>
>Not quite sure what you are doing. It will return one result only ...
>index.htm is chosen as any site has this page. By second thought,
>index.html is possible too, but I don't know (do we have a web guru
>present?) - perhaps the function should be expanded to check for any of
>these two files?
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>d.dick at uws.edu.au 18-11-2004 01:58:27 >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>
>Hi Gustav
>Many thanks
>I'm not sure how to use the code though :-(( I get odd results
>
>When I put isUrl ("http://www.ibm.com") behind a button on a form
>and put debug.print IsURL at the end of Public Function IsURL
>I get "true"
>If I put msgbox IsYrl at the end of Public Function IsURL
>I get false
>??
>Dunno what it all means
>
>http://www.ibm.com is a valid and live website
>How do it know if there will be an index.htm file at the other end?
>And how come I get differeing results with MSGBOX and Debug.print?
>
>Obviously doing something wrong
>
>Many thanks in advance
>
>Darren
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav
>Brock
>Sent: Wednesday, 17 November 2004 8:36 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>
>Hi Darren
>
>We use these functions:
>
><code module>
>
>Private Declare Function URLDownloadToFile Lib "urlmon" Alias
>"URLDownloadToFileA" ( _
>  ByVal pCaller As Long, _
>  ByVal szURL As String, _
>  ByVal szFileName As String, _
>  ByVal dwReserved As Long, _
>  ByVal lpfnCB As Long) _
>  As Long
>
>Public Function IsURL(ByVal strURL As String) As Boolean
>
>' Usage: Check if URL strURL is alive and reachable.
>'   booURL = IsURL("http://www.ibm.com")
>'   booURL = IsURL("ftp://ftp.novell.com")
>'
>' Note: Protocol header like "http://" must be provided.
>'
>' 2001-12-09. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.
>
>  ' File found at most URLs.
>  Const cstrFileIndex As String = "index.htm"
>
>  IsURL = (URLDownloadToFile(0, strURL, cstrFileIndex, 0, 0) = 0)
>
>End Function
>
></code module>
>
>If your URLs contains html document name you will have to modify the
>code to
>use that and not append index.html.
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>d.dick at uws.edu.au 17-11-2004 05:03:08 >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>
>I have an educational client who has a CD full of Education URL's
>(Zillion's
>of 'em) Occasionally someone has to test to see if the links are broken
>or
>not (Manually <yuk>)
>
>I thought this would be a perfect application for Access Set up a table
>of
>URLs and loop through 'em and return TRUE or FALSE
>
>So...Is there a way I can type in
>say...http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
>and return "true" if the site exists or "false" if the site does not
>exist.
>
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Thu Nov 18 12:54:55 2004
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 18:54:55 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Corrupt Data File
In-Reply-To: <013701c4cd19$55bd91e0$fa10a8c0@Albatross>
Message-ID: <BAY101-F3600DDD2A6780650788D50D2C20@phx.gbl>

I had the same/similar problem a few months ago...If I tried to 
import,export, or compact...I would get that error.  It seemed to revolve 
around 1 record( with a memo field)...when viewing the memo 'error' 
appeared.  I removed this record...and was able to compact.

Good Luck,

Mark A. Matte

>From: <pcs at azizaz.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Corrupt Data File
>Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 12:50:16 +1000
>
>Are you able to import the backendDb tables into a new empty db?
>
>Regards
>Borge
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "MACE, Terry" <terry.mace at baesystems.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:36 AM
>Subject: [AccessD] Corrupt Data File
>
>
> >
> > Help!!
> >
> > I have a store management database application in Ac97 and last night 
>the
> > back end data file was corrupted.  I have run the Ac97 repair tool and
>also
> > Jetcomp.exe on the file and they both say the file is OK.
> >
> > The problem is when I attempt to open it I get the following message:
> >
> > "'Index1' isn't an index in this table. Look in the indexes collection 
>of
> > the TableDef object to determine the valid index names." OK /HELP
> >
> > Clicking on the OK button just terminates the opening process.  Due to 
>an
> > undiscovered (until now!) quirk in our backup system, this file has 
>never
> > been backed up.  The file size is 7.2Mb and contains about 7000 records. 
>A
> > zipped copy is about 1.6Mb.
> >
> > Any advice on how or who could fix it would be most appreciated.
> >
> > Terry Mace
> > BAE Systems
> > Melbourne, Australia
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From kaupca at chevrontexaco.com  Thu Nov 18 12:56:25 2004
From: kaupca at chevrontexaco.com (Kaup, Chester A)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 12:56:25 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Query of query results problem
Message-ID: <1375769556091B4DAABC159F944CA1BB07A2DA@bocnte2k4.hou150.chevrontexaco.net>

I had to use the csng function on each field in the second query. I was
just wondering if this is normal behavior for access or if something
else is happening.

Chester Kaup
Information Management Technician
IT-MidContinent/MidContinent Business Unit
CTN 8-687-7415  
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:43 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query of query results problem


Isn't there something about a calculation inheriting the format of the,
what I think of, the simplest format?  What if you set the formatting in
the second query in the query itself to like a double and specify the
number of decimals?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
A
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:23 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Query of query results problem


I have a query with no formatting in it that generates numbers with
various numbers of digits after the decimal place. When I run a query
against this query with no number formatting the result in integers (all
decimal precision is gone). What is happening here?

Chester Kaup
Information Management Technician
IT-MidContinent/MidContinent Business Unit
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Nov 18 12:56:39 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:56:39 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Re: ODBC against Oracle partitioned db
In-Reply-To: <B94C79B465542042AB0748EAF37F9AC0A427C0@EXCNYSM0A1AB.nysemail.nyenet>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIIEFFCIAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Patti:

Toad is probably the best Oracle manager/designer/developer tool ever built.
It has now expanded it's extensive set of features to MS SQL and even MySQL.
Check it out: http://www.toadsoft.com/

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of O'Connor,
Patricia (OTDA)
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 9:05 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: ODBC against Oracle partitioned db



What is TOAD?

I was wondering whether the newest Oracle ODBC driver would solve it. We
still have the 9.x one.

Thanks
Patti
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> Robert L. Stewart
> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 02:56 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Re: ODBC against Oracle partitioned db
>
> As you can see, Access and the ODBC driver has trouble with a
> partioned table.
>
> Use Toad or something like it for the type of things you
> would do in running queries and viewing data.  Since it is
> written for Oracle, it plays with it better.
>
> Robert
>
> At 12:01 PM 11/16/2004 -0600, you wrote:
> >Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 10:28:49 -0500
> >From: "O'Connor, Patricia \(OTDA\)"
> >         <Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us>
> >Subject: [AccessD] ODBC against Oracle partitioned db
> >To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> >         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Message-ID:
> >
> <B94C79B465542042AB0748EAF37F9AC0A427B1 at EXCNYSM0A1AB.nysemail.nyenet>
> >Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
> >
> >Hi all
> >
> >When I use the Oracle ODBC driver against an ORACLE un-partitioned
> >table from Access (either passthru or gui), I have not problem. Data
> >comes back can scroll through 1-30+K records no problem.
> >
> >When I use same driver against an Oracle partitioned table
> from access,
> >I get temporary freeze ups when scrolling through records even
> >scrolling from column 1 to say col 10 on screen. It doesn't
> matter how
> >many records in set - scroll down 3-6 records - stop. Sometimes the
> >stall can be 2-5 minutes.
> >
> >Doesn't matter if it is the only thing running on computer. I do not
> >have this problem with an unpartioned set.  I waste a good amount of
> >time waiting for access to let me back in.
> >
> >Has anyone run into this and is there a workaround or
> setting I need to
> >change in the driver configuration.  My machine is Win2k, Access2k,
> >Oracle10
> >
> >Thanks in advance
> >Patti
>
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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Thu Nov 18 13:11:14 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:11:14 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem
Message-ID: <001d01c4cda2$62c28dd0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

The Situation

On an inherited database the client has a single Employees form that lists
the with a text box for job title.

They want to have one employee with many job titles. I am trying to add a
sub form continuous view with a combo box.

 

 

SELECT stblEmpJobTitle.EmpID, stblEmpJobTitle.JobTitleID, [Job
Title].JobTitle

FROM [Job Title] LEFT JOIN stblEmpJobTitle ON [Job Title].JobTitleID =
stblEmpJobTitle.JobTitleID

WHERE (((stblEmpJobTitle.EmpID)=[Forms]![Employees]![EmpID]));

I need to not only show current job title but also assign new ones. When I
go to the next combo box it already has the existing job.

 

Looking for some help here please. 

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net 

 


From GregSmith at starband.net  Thu Nov 18 14:44:35 2004
From: GregSmith at starband.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 14:44:35 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD] Accessing data in secured mdb from another secured mdb
	on a different workgroup
In-Reply-To: <000f01c4cd9c$6f150fa0$0e0b6bd5@netboxxp>
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20041116135414.01419f28@pop3.highstream.net>
	<000f01c4cd9c$6f150fa0$0e0b6bd5@netboxxp>
Message-ID: <2249.65.118.249.206.1100810675.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>

Mark:

Do any of the groups/users in the two different MDW's have the same PID's?
 Or were both mdw files created independently?  If the latter is true, you
might be hosed.  I'm ASSuming (dangerous word) that both apps and data
sets are using full MS Access security.

The next question (or continuing) then, if they both are fully
independent, how do you get data from one to the other?  You have to
somehow combine the mdw's (create new users/groups in one mdw from the
other mdw using the PIDs from the other mdw) and then one MDW file would
be used for both apps.  "Bit of a pain..." is an understatement.

I don't know your full setup, but another option would be (warning: this
is a cobble...) to create a third UNSECURED db for the data, export data
to it from the one database, then import from it into the other database.
That way all the exporting and importing is done from the secured db's and
they, technically, don't 'see' each other or their security. However, your
exported/imported data, while in the unsecured database, is just
that...unsecured. You didn't say whether this was a one time deal or an
ongoing process, so that may also figure into what you need to do as well.

Well, that's MY two cents worth.  Good luck!

Greg Smith
gregsmith at starband.net

> Hello All (I sent his yesterday but it didn';t seem to get through...)
>
> Using AXP on WinXP
>
> I have two databases secured on different workgroups and accessed from
> different front ends. I need to be able to import data from one into the
> other but am having problems as they are secured on different mdw's. I
> could merge the two mdw's but that would be a bit of a pain.
>
> Anyone know a simple solution?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Mark
>
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From GregSmith at starband.net  Thu Nov 18 15:01:05 2004
From: GregSmith at starband.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 15:01:05 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD] Corrupt Data File
In-Reply-To: <BAY101-F3600DDD2A6780650788D50D2C20@phx.gbl>
References: <013701c4cd19$55bd91e0$fa10a8c0@Albatross>
	<BAY101-F3600DDD2A6780650788D50D2C20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <2284.65.118.249.206.1100811665.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>

Terry:

Look at http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;158933 for
some help...although it's not help really...it just tells you how hosed
you really are.  I had a client who got this error message and there was
absolutely nothing we could do with it.  The backend data was corrupted
beyond repair.  We couldn't even import the data out of it.  She had to go
and use the last backup, which I conveniently had a copy of, but it was
over two weeks old.  Her tape drive had not been working right (and she
knew it...but put off getting it fixed...) so her backup was missing over
two weeks of data they had to reenter.  I hope this is NOT the case for
you, but, judging from the Microsoft article, I don't hold out much hope.

Good luck!

Greg Smith
gregsmith at starband.net

>> > Help!!
>> >
>> > I have a store management database application in Ac97 and last
>> night
>>the
>> > back end data file was corrupted.  I have run the Ac97 repair tool
>> and
>>also
>> > Jetcomp.exe on the file and they both say the file is OK.
>> >
>> > The problem is when I attempt to open it I get the following
>> message:
>> >
>> > "'Index1' isn't an index in this table. Look in the indexes
>> collection
>>of
>> > the TableDef object to determine the valid index names." OK /HELP
>> >
>> > Clicking on the OK button just terminates the opening process.  Due
>> to
>>an
>> > undiscovered (until now!) quirk in our backup system, this file has
>>never
>> > been backed up.  The file size is 7.2Mb and contains about 7000
>> records.
>>A
>> > zipped copy is about 1.6Mb.
>> >
>> > Any advice on how or who could fix it would be most appreciated.
>> >
>> > Terry Mace
>> > BAE Systems
>> > Melbourne, Australia





From lists at theopg.com  Thu Nov 18 15:32:43 2004
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 21:32:43 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Accessing data in secured mdb from another secured
	mdbon a different workgroup
In-Reply-To: <2249.65.118.249.206.1100810675.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
Message-ID: <001701c4cdb6$24b39f70$0e0b6bd5@netboxxp>

Greg

1) Both mdw files were created independantly and both backends are fully
secured (I do have full access on each)
2) I was hoping to avoid merging the workgroups, but if I have to then
luckilly one has less than ten users
3) A temporary unsecured database is out of the question unfortunately
due to the nature of the data

... I have read, since posting my original message, that the desired
result "could" possibly be achieved by creating an access application
variable within one of the front-ends that uses a connection string to
the other backend which includes workgroup and login details. I would
like to avoid this as it seems clumsy, haven't tried it yet though...

Looks like merging the two mdw's will be the best bet... Never mind :O)

Thanks very much for the suggestions

Mark

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
Sent: 18 November 2004 20:45
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Accessing data in secured mdb from another
secured mdbon a different workgroup


Mark:

Do any of the groups/users in the two different MDW's have the same
PID's?  Or were both mdw files created independently?  If the latter is
true, you might be hosed.  I'm ASSuming (dangerous word) that both apps
and data sets are using full MS Access security.

The next question (or continuing) then, if they both are fully
independent, how do you get data from one to the other?  You have to
somehow combine the mdw's (create new users/groups in one mdw from the
other mdw using the PIDs from the other mdw) and then one MDW file would
be used for both apps.  "Bit of a pain..." is an understatement.

I don't know your full setup, but another option would be (warning: this
is a cobble...) to create a third UNSECURED db for the data, export data
to it from the one database, then import from it into the other
database. That way all the exporting and importing is done from the
secured db's and they, technically, don't 'see' each other or their
security. However, your exported/imported data, while in the unsecured
database, is just that...unsecured. You didn't say whether this was a
one time deal or an ongoing process, so that may also figure into what
you need to do as well.

Well, that's MY two cents worth.  Good luck!

Greg Smith
gregsmith at starband.net

> Hello All (I sent his yesterday but it didn';t seem to get through...)
>
> Using AXP on WinXP
>
> I have two databases secured on different workgroups and accessed from

> different front ends. I need to be able to import data from one into 
> the other but am having problems as they are secured on different 
> mdw's. I could merge the two mdw's but that would be a bit of a pain.
>
> Anyone know a simple solution?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Mark
>
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Thu Nov 18 15:44:11 2004
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 21:44:11 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] IMESentenceMode gremlin
In-Reply-To: <EAF3070ACB1AD81182280002A51EF731192362@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <BAY101-F1401B0F5A52E201D827962D2C20@phx.gbl>

Paul,

I would open the vba window and compile all modules...something might be 
missing under 'TOOLS_REFERENCES'.

Hope it helps,

Mark A. Matte

>From: Paul Rodgers <Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: [AccessD] IMESentenceMode gremlin
>Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:29:12 -0000
>
>A slight change to a cmd button on a form has Access offering a fault, 'You
>entered an expression that has an invalid reference to the  property
>IMESentenceMode'.
>
>The debug highlight is of an unrelated, unchanged piece of code.
>
>Anyone been here, please, and answered this seemingly strange error. Cheers
>paul
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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Nov 18 16:05:28 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 09:05:28 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS - Repost
In-Reply-To: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33980@nprdex02.nns.com>
Message-ID: <200411182205.iAIM5edQ014590@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Mark
Perfect - Excellent bit of work
Many thanks

Darren
 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
Sent: Friday, 19 November 2004 2:46 AM
To: [AccessD]
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS - Repost

Darren,

When doing maintenance on my departmental website, I use Xenu's Link Sleuth.
I am fairly certain that it is still free to download.
http://home.snafu.de/tilman/xenulink.html  Not only can it verify links
within a website, but for you purposes I believe it will verify a simple
text listing of URLs.

It is extremely fast.


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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Nov 18 16:10:39 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 09:10:39 +1100
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
In-Reply-To: <419CEED5.3000105@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <200411182210.iAIMApdQ018173@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Tina
Well spotted - slip of the 'vowels' ((That's a slip of the consonants:-))
Should be an e not an o  

By the way I ended up using Link Sleuth - it's free and it's fast

Thanks to all who responded

DD



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris
Fields
Sent: Friday, 19 November 2004 5:50 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS

Okay, I can't resist any longer - didn't anybody else laugh about this
subject line?  How hungry does a URL have to be before it becomes voracious
and we have to test its voracity?
LOL
Tina

Jim Lawrence (AccessD) wrote:

>General comment
>
>Any file extension and file name can be setup as default initial web 
>site code. Html (variations htm, htlms...), and is just one extension 
>type but 'pl' (perl), 'asp and aspx' asp/net, 'php', 'jsp', 'xml' to 
>name a few, are just as valid and standard. As for names, anything 
>goes. The most common are of course 'index', but 'homepage' is a 
>standard when using MS FP. It is all set up on your IIS or Apache, in 
>the properties per hosted web site. Most sites are fairly standard but 
>I have seen some odd variations over the years. In a nutshell, everything
goes.
>
>HTH
>Jim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 1:42 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>
>
>Hi Darren
>
>Not quite sure what you are doing. It will return one result only ...
>index.htm is chosen as any site has this page. By second thought, 
>index.html is possible too, but I don't know (do we have a web guru
>present?) - perhaps the function should be expanded to check for any of 
>these two files?
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>d.dick at uws.edu.au 18-11-2004 01:58:27 >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>
>Hi Gustav
>Many thanks
>I'm not sure how to use the code though :-(( I get odd results
>
>When I put isUrl ("http://www.ibm.com") behind a button on a form and 
>put debug.print IsURL at the end of Public Function IsURL I get "true"
>If I put msgbox IsYrl at the end of Public Function IsURL I get false 
>??
>Dunno what it all means
>
>http://www.ibm.com is a valid and live website How do it know if there 
>will be an index.htm file at the other end?
>And how come I get differeing results with MSGBOX and Debug.print?
>
>Obviously doing something wrong
>
>Many thanks in advance
>
>Darren
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>Sent: Wednesday, 17 November 2004 8:36 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>
>Hi Darren
>
>We use these functions:
>
><code module>
>
>Private Declare Function URLDownloadToFile Lib "urlmon" Alias 
>"URLDownloadToFileA" ( _
>  ByVal pCaller As Long, _
>  ByVal szURL As String, _
>  ByVal szFileName As String, _
>  ByVal dwReserved As Long, _
>  ByVal lpfnCB As Long) _
>  As Long
>
>Public Function IsURL(ByVal strURL As String) As Boolean
>
>' Usage: Check if URL strURL is alive and reachable.
>'   booURL = IsURL("http://www.ibm.com")
>'   booURL = IsURL("ftp://ftp.novell.com")
>'
>' Note: Protocol header like "http://" must be provided.
>'
>' 2001-12-09. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.
>
>  ' File found at most URLs.
>  Const cstrFileIndex As String = "index.htm"
>
>  IsURL = (URLDownloadToFile(0, strURL, cstrFileIndex, 0, 0) = 0)
>
>End Function
>
></code module>
>
>If your URLs contains html document name you will have to modify the 
>code to use that and not append index.html.
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>d.dick at uws.edu.au 17-11-2004 05:03:08 >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>
>I have an educational client who has a CD full of Education URL's 
>(Zillion's of 'em) Occasionally someone has to test to see if the links 
>are broken or not (Manually <yuk>)
>
>I thought this would be a perfect application for Access Set up a table 
>of URLs and loop through 'em and return TRUE or FALSE
>
>So...Is there a way I can type in
>say...http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
>and return "true" if the site exists or "false" if the site does not 
>exist.
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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Nov 18 16:41:27 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 09:41:27 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?
In-Reply-To: <20041118115010.AB95725D353@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <200411182241.iAIMfedQ013637@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Andy
How are things??
Say Hello to your lovely for me

In cases like this in the on_click of a check box
I just look at its current value. 
Then run a query based on the opposite value then refresh or Requery the
screen

Eg 
If Me.chkCheckBox = -1 then
	docmd.openquery "upd_qryThatChangesTheValueForThisRecordToZero
ElseIf Me.chkCheckBox = 0 then
	docmd.openquery "upd_qryThatChangesTheValueForThisRecordToMinus1
End if

Me.requery

And if needed set a bookmark or global so you can return to the
Relavant record after a requery

Hope this helps

And we'll see you.........:-)))

DD

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Thursday, 18 November 2004 9:50 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?

Feared that might be the case. Ah well, always worth asking the list cos if
there's a way someone here will know it. Thanks for the response Gustav.
--
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http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



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To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?
Date: 18/11/04 10:59

>
> Hi Andy
>
> No, unions are read-only. If you can't go the update-behind-requery 
> route, I guess you are left with the temp table.
>
> /gustav
>
> &gt;&gt;&gt; andy at minstersystems.co.uk 18-11-2004 10:09:56 
> &gt;&gt;&gt;
>
> Morning all
> I've a continuous screen which needs to list two types of order in 
> date sequence. These are held on separate tables. No problem, a UNION 
> query does the job fine. However the user has to tick an order to say 
> it's despatched, and then the screen needs to show that information, 
> but the recordset is not updatable. Presumably this applies to all 
> UNION queries does it? Does anyone have a way round this or do I have 
> to go to extracting to a temp table and all that jazz?
>
> By the way it's not practical to upodate the underlying tables and 
> requery to display the depatch info because there's a lot of data on 
> screen and requerying takes too long.
>
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Nov 18 19:50:59 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 17:50:59 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] For Trainee BOFH's
References: <200411182210.iAIMApdQ018173@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <419D5183.2070209@shaw.ca>

 Those of you working on your BOFH certification might find this piece 
of code useful
Or if you really want to get all those users out of your database so you 
can work on it.
Or if you really want to renew a dhcp lease.

You can run from vbs or Access VBA

Here's a way to reboot a list of systems with a single keystroke. 
Replace the contents of the code between "Else" and "End if" statements 
in the  script below  that (renews DHCP leases on all computers) with 
the following:

 Set colOperatingSystems = objWMIService.ExecQuery("Select * from 
Win32_OperatingSystem")
 objTextFile.WriteLine(strComputer & " is rebooting.")
 For Each objOperatingSystem in colOperatingSystems
   ObjOperatingSystem.Reboot()
Next


'computer.txt' is a file that contains a list of all network machine names
' well aside from your own.

RebootFile = "computers.txt"
LogFile = "results.txt"

Set fso = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
Set f = fso.OpenTextFile(RebootFile, 1, True)
Set objTextFile = fso.OpenTextFile(LogFile, 2, True)

On Error resume next
Do While f.AtEndOfLine <> True
 strComputer = f.ReadLine
Set objWMIService = GetObject("winmgmts:" & 
"{impersonationLevel=impersonate}!\\" & strComputer & "\root\cimv2")
If Err.Number <> 0 Then
 objTextFile.WriteLine(intCount & ". " & strComputer & " is not 
responding.")
 Err.Clear
Else
Set objNetworkSettings =  
objWMIService.Get("Win32_NetworkAdapterConfiguration")
 objNetworkSettings.RenewDHCPLeaseAll()
 objTextFile.WriteLine(strComputer & " has been renewed.")
End If
Loop

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Canada





From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Thu Nov 18 20:04:24 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 19:04:24 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] ActiveX control for capturing a signature?
Message-ID: <48860-22004115192424187@christopherhawkins.com>

A client of mine has cobbled together a rickety Access app that runs
on a touch screen monitor.  He has his customers fill out a customer
satisfactions surveyo it by pressing buttons to select 1-10 ratings
on various elements of his service.  It's pretty clever.

However, he's not content to stop there.  He wants to provide a
stylus and have the customer sign their name to the survey right
there on the screen, and have the signatuire be stored as an OLE
Object or as an image file someplace..

I'm sure there's got to be an ActiveX control out there that will
capture this kind of input.  But I don't even know where to start
looking for it. 

Anyone do anything like this before?

-Chistopher-
Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com




From jmhla at earthlink.net  Thu Nov 18 20:04:54 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 18:04:54 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] For Trainee BOFH's
In-Reply-To: <419D5183.2070209@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <001501c4cddc$29bd5670$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

I will bite.  BOFH?

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 5:51 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] For Trainee BOFH's

 Those of you working on your BOFH certification might find this piece 
of code useful
Or if you really want to get all those users out of your database so you 
can work on it.
Or if you really want to renew a dhcp lease.

You can run from vbs or Access VBA

Here's a way to reboot a list of systems with a single keystroke. 
Replace the contents of the code between "Else" and "End if" statements 
in the  script below  that (renews DHCP leases on all computers) with 
the following:

 Set colOperatingSystems = objWMIService.ExecQuery("Select * from 
Win32_OperatingSystem")
 objTextFile.WriteLine(strComputer & " is rebooting.")
 For Each objOperatingSystem in colOperatingSystems
   ObjOperatingSystem.Reboot()
Next


'computer.txt' is a file that contains a list of all network machine names
' well aside from your own.

RebootFile = "computers.txt"
LogFile = "results.txt"

Set fso = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
Set f = fso.OpenTextFile(RebootFile, 1, True)
Set objTextFile = fso.OpenTextFile(LogFile, 2, True)

On Error resume next
Do While f.AtEndOfLine <> True
 strComputer = f.ReadLine
Set objWMIService = GetObject("winmgmts:" & 
"{impersonationLevel=impersonate}!\\" & strComputer & "\root\cimv2")
If Err.Number <> 0 Then
 objTextFile.WriteLine(intCount & ". " & strComputer & " is not 
responding.")
 Err.Clear
Else
Set objNetworkSettings =  
objWMIService.Get("Win32_NetworkAdapterConfiguration")
 objNetworkSettings.RenewDHCPLeaseAll()
 objTextFile.WriteLine(strComputer & " has been renewed.")
End If
Loop

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Thu Nov 18 20:05:37 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 18:05:37 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ActiveX control for capturing a signature?
In-Reply-To: <48860-22004115192424187@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <001601c4cddc$46a73940$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

Look at point of sales sites maybe?

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hawkins
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 6:04 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] ActiveX control for capturing a signature?

A client of mine has cobbled together a rickety Access app that runs
on a touch screen monitor.  He has his customers fill out a customer
satisfactions surveyo it by pressing buttons to select 1-10 ratings
on various elements of his service.  It's pretty clever.

However, he's not content to stop there.  He wants to provide a
stylus and have the customer sign their name to the survey right
there on the screen, and have the signatuire be stored as an OLE
Object or as an image file someplace..

I'm sure there's got to be an ActiveX control out there that will
capture this kind of input.  But I don't even know where to start
looking for it. 

Anyone do anything like this before?

-Chistopher-
Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
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From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Thu Nov 18 20:26:20 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 21:26:20 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Accessing data in secured mdb from another secured mdb
	on	a different workgroup
In-Reply-To: <000f01c4cd9c$6f150fa0$0e0b6bd5@netboxxp>
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20041116135414.01419f28@pop3.highstream.net>
Message-ID: <419D137C.19277.573D8F@localhost>

On 18 Nov 2004 at 18:28, MarkH wrote:

> Hello All (I sent his yesterday but it didn';t seem to get through...)
> 
> Using AXP on WinXP
> 
> I have two databases secured on different workgroups and accessed from
> different front ends. I need to be able to import data from one into
> the other but am having problems as they are secured on different
> mdw's. I could merge the two mdw's but that would be a bit of a pain.
> 
> Anyone know a simple solution?

Create a new DAO workspace

Private mwks As DAO.Workspace 'Workspace for the DB's to be opened in
Private mdbBE As DAO.Database 'BE DB Reference

'Open the Workspace
Set mwks = CreateWorkspace("AnyName", "UserName", "PassWord")
'Set Reference to BE, opened Exclusively
Set mdbBE = mwks.OpenDatabase(Me.BEPath, True, False, Me.BEPassword)

Now the mdbBE dao database object can be refered to just like you 
would with any other DAO database object.

This is the approach that we took with the Alpha version of the 
BackEnd Upgrader that deals with back ends that were secured with Jet 
Security.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
Unfortunately common sense isn't so common!




From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Nov 18 20:37:20 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 18:37:20 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] For Trainee BOFH's
References: <001501c4cddc$29bd5670$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <419D5C60.2010609@shaw.ca>

How to get an upgrade, BOFH-style
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/01/17/how_to_get_an_upgrade/
There is a couple of years worth of articles here
http://www.theregister.co.uk/odds/bofh/
Oh yes BOFH Bastard Operator From Hell


Joe Hecht wrote:

>I will bite.  BOFH?
>
>JOE HECHT
>LOS ANGELES CA 
> jmhla at earthlink.net
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
>Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 5:51 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] For Trainee BOFH's
>
> Those of you working on your BOFH certification might find this piece 
>of code useful
>Or if you really want to get all those users out of your database so you 
>can work on it.
>Or if you really want to renew a dhcp lease.
>
>You can run from vbs or Access VBA
>
>Here's a way to reboot a list of systems with a single keystroke. 
>Replace the contents of the code between "Else" and "End if" statements 
>in the  script below  that (renews DHCP leases on all computers) with 
>the following:
>
> Set colOperatingSystems = objWMIService.ExecQuery("Select * from 
>Win32_OperatingSystem")
> objTextFile.WriteLine(strComputer & " is rebooting.")
> For Each objOperatingSystem in colOperatingSystems
>   ObjOperatingSystem.Reboot()
>Next
>
>
>'computer.txt' is a file that contains a list of all network machine names
>' well aside from your own.
>
>RebootFile = "computers.txt"
>LogFile = "results.txt"
>
>Set fso = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
>Set f = fso.OpenTextFile(RebootFile, 1, True)
>Set objTextFile = fso.OpenTextFile(LogFile, 2, True)
>
>On Error resume next
>Do While f.AtEndOfLine <> True
> strComputer = f.ReadLine
>Set objWMIService = GetObject("winmgmts:" & 
>"{impersonationLevel=impersonate}!\\" & strComputer & "\root\cimv2")
>If Err.Number <> 0 Then
> objTextFile.WriteLine(intCount & ". " & strComputer & " is not 
>responding.")
> Err.Clear
>Else
>Set objNetworkSettings =  
>objWMIService.Get("Win32_NetworkAdapterConfiguration")
> objNetworkSettings.RenewDHCPLeaseAll()
> objTextFile.WriteLine(strComputer & " has been renewed.")
>End If
>Loop
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Nov 18 20:40:55 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 18:40:55 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] For Trainee BOFH's
References: <001501c4cddc$29bd5670$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <419D5D37.6040607@shaw.ca>

Or try here for usenet definition
http://www.comedia.com/hot/jargon-4.2.3/html/entry/BOFH.html


Joe Hecht wrote:

>I will bite.  BOFH?
>
>JOE HECHT
>LOS ANGELES CA 
> jmhla at earthlink.net
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
>Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 5:51 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] For Trainee BOFH's
>
> Those of you working on your BOFH certification might find this piece 
>of code useful
>Or if you really want to get all those users out of your database so you 
>can work on it.
>Or if you really want to renew a dhcp lease.
>
>You can run from vbs or Access VBA
>
>Here's a way to reboot a list of systems with a single keystroke. 
>Replace the contents of the code between "Else" and "End if" statements 
>in the  script below  that (renews DHCP leases on all computers) with 
>the following:
>
> Set colOperatingSystems = objWMIService.ExecQuery("Select * from 
>Win32_OperatingSystem")
> objTextFile.WriteLine(strComputer & " is rebooting.")
> For Each objOperatingSystem in colOperatingSystems
>   ObjOperatingSystem.Reboot()
>Next
>
>
>'computer.txt' is a file that contains a list of all network machine names
>' well aside from your own.
>
>RebootFile = "computers.txt"
>LogFile = "results.txt"
>
>Set fso = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
>Set f = fso.OpenTextFile(RebootFile, 1, True)
>Set objTextFile = fso.OpenTextFile(LogFile, 2, True)
>
>On Error resume next
>Do While f.AtEndOfLine <> True
> strComputer = f.ReadLine
>Set objWMIService = GetObject("winmgmts:" & 
>"{impersonationLevel=impersonate}!\\" & strComputer & "\root\cimv2")
>If Err.Number <> 0 Then
> objTextFile.WriteLine(intCount & ". " & strComputer & " is not 
>responding.")
> Err.Clear
>Else
>Set objNetworkSettings =  
>objWMIService.Get("Win32_NetworkAdapterConfiguration")
> objNetworkSettings.RenewDHCPLeaseAll()
> objTextFile.WriteLine(strComputer & " has been renewed.")
>End If
>Loop
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From lists at theopg.com  Fri Nov 19 03:17:00 2004
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 09:17:00 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Accessing data in secured mdb from another secured
	mdbon	a different workgroup
In-Reply-To: <419D137C.19277.573D8F@localhost>
Message-ID: <000001c4ce18$88012590$0e0b6bd5@netboxxp>

Hello Bryan... Thanks for the suggestion, not quite sure on a couple of
things though...

I assume that, from "me.BEPassword" the user enters their username and
password on screen?

I'm not sure how this gets passed the mdw security? The front-end that
is requesting the data belongs to a different mdw so even though I
passed the correct username and password I still get refused access
because the connection request is being made whilst joined to a
different mdw. I have tried specifying the mdw in the connection string
but either its not possible or I'm getting the format wrong :@(

Is it possible to specify a different mdw?

Thanks again

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
Carbonnell
Sent: 19 November 2004 02:26
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Accessing data in secured mdb from another
secured mdbon a different workgroup


On 18 Nov 2004 at 18:28, MarkH wrote:

> Hello All (I sent his yesterday but it didn';t seem to get through...)
> 
> Using AXP on WinXP
> 
> I have two databases secured on different workgroups and accessed from

> different front ends. I need to be able to import data from one into 
> the other but am having problems as they are secured on different 
> mdw's. I could merge the two mdw's but that would be a bit of a pain.
> 
> Anyone know a simple solution?

Create a new DAO workspace

Private mwks As DAO.Workspace 'Workspace for the DB's to be opened in
Private mdbBE As DAO.Database 'BE DB Reference

'Open the Workspace
Set mwks = CreateWorkspace("AnyName", "UserName", "PassWord") 'Set
Reference to BE, opened Exclusively 
Set mdbBE = mwks.OpenDatabase(Me.BEPath, True, False, Me.BEPassword)

Now the mdbBE dao database object can be refered to just like you 
would with any other DAO database object.

This is the approach that we took with the Alpha version of the 
BackEnd Upgrader that deals with back ends that were secured with Jet 
Security.

-- 
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Unfortunately common sense isn't so common!


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From lists at theopg.com  Fri Nov 19 03:55:50 2004
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 09:55:50 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Accessing data in secured mdb from another ... Clumsy
	fix - comments please
In-Reply-To: <000001c4ce18$88012590$0e0b6bd5@netboxxp>
Message-ID: <000101c4ce1d$f4c3c2a0$0e0b6bd5@netboxxp>

Hello again...

I can establish (fairly easilly) a connection using the following
method:

    Dim app As Access.Application
    Dim db As DAO.Database
    
    Set app = New Access.Application
    
    app.SetDefaultWorkgroupFile "pathToMDW"
    
    app.OpenCurrentDatabase "pathToSecuredMDB" 'login prompt displayed

    '... Set rs etc...

This works, but I'm concerned that working with a database this way may
invite problems (never had to do it like this before). The clients
network is one of the slowest I ever worked with and I would like to
avoid potentially locking up a machine while the app etc. is being
accessed.

Anyone out there have experience of this method and what to look out
for?

Many thanks

Mark

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From lists at theopg.com  Fri Nov 19 04:28:20 2004
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:28:20 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Accessing data in secured mdb from another ... Used
	ADODB
In-Reply-To: <000101c4ce1d$f4c3c2a0$0e0b6bd5@netboxxp>
Message-ID: <000201c4ce22$7ebf6960$0e0b6bd5@netboxxp>

Doh... Completely forgot about ADO as I havent used it for quite a
while... Nice and easy and no need for a separate application object,
just specified the mdw in the connection properties and prompted user to
enter login details :@)

Mark

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From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Fri Nov 19 04:30:51 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 05:30:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Accessing data in secured mdb from another
	secured	mdbon	a different workgroup
In-Reply-To: <000001c4ce18$88012590$0e0b6bd5@netboxxp>
References: <419D137C.19277.573D8F@localhost>
Message-ID: <419D850B.22905.20D64E@localhost>

On 19 Nov 2004 at 9:17, MarkH wrote:

> Hello Bryan... Thanks for the suggestion, not quite sure on a couple
> of things though...
> 
> I assume that, from "me.BEPassword" the user enters their username and
> password on screen?

It could be that they do do that. We had it hardcoded. but that is a 
password for the BE if it only has a password on it, not Jet 
security, just a password.

> I'm not sure how this gets passed the mdw security? The front-end that
> is requesting the data belongs to a different mdw so even though I
> passed the correct username and password I still get refused access
> because the connection request is being made whilst joined to a
> different mdw. I have tried specifying the mdw in the connection
> string but either its not possible or I'm getting the format wrong :@(
> 
> Is it possible to specify a different mdw?

Aw cr*p. Missed that part completely :( I'm not sure.

-- 
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Code so clean...you can eat off it.




From lists at theopg.com  Fri Nov 19 04:47:54 2004
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:47:54 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Accessing data in secured mdb from
	anothersecured	mdbon	a different workgroup
In-Reply-To: <419D850B.22905.20D64E@localhost>
Message-ID: <000301c4ce25$3a94ab30$0e0b6bd5@netboxxp>

No worries matey... Used ADO and it works just fine :@)

Thanks anyway

Mark

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
Carbonnell
Sent: 19 November 2004 10:31
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Accessing data in secured mdb from anothersecured
mdbon a different workgroup


On 19 Nov 2004 at 9:17, MarkH wrote:

> Hello Bryan... Thanks for the suggestion, not quite sure on a couple 
> of things though...
> 
> I assume that, from "me.BEPassword" the user enters their username and

> password on screen?

It could be that they do do that. We had it hardcoded. but that is a 
password for the BE if it only has a password on it, not Jet 
security, just a password.

> I'm not sure how this gets passed the mdw security? The front-end that

> is requesting the data belongs to a different mdw so even though I 
> passed the correct username and password I still get refused access 
> because the connection request is being made whilst joined to a 
> different mdw. I have tried specifying the mdw in the connection 
> string but either its not possible or I'm getting the format wrong :@(
> 
> Is it possible to specify a different mdw?

Aw cr*p. Missed that part completely :( I'm not sure.

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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Fri Nov 19 07:47:47 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 08:47:47 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS - Repost
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F3398B@nprdex02.nns.com>

Darren,

I'm glad you actually got the post.  I still haven't seen either of my posts
from this thread:(  I truly believe I am missing a growing number of posts
from my dba lists, but I haven't got a clue as to why or if there is a
pattern emerging.

Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: Darren DICK [mailto:d.dick at uws.edu.au] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 5:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS - Repost


Hi Mark
Perfect - Excellent bit of work
Many thanks

Darren
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
Sent: Friday, 19 November 2004 2:46 AM
To: [AccessD]
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS - Repost

Darren,

When doing maintenance on my departmental website, I use Xenu's Link Sleuth.
I am fairly certain that it is still free to download.
http://home.snafu.de/tilman/xenulink.html  Not only can it verify links
within a website, but for you purposes I believe it will verify a simple
text listing of URLs.

It is extremely fast.


Mark
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Fri Nov 19 07:49:20 2004
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:49:20 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?
In-Reply-To: <s19c8e67.028@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <BAY101-F1495074886B535CAE33DBED2C30@phx.gbl>

Andy,

This might sound like dancing around this issue...but could you have user 
click on the record to be updated...open a second query/form for just that 
record...save the record...and the give a message, "Your update has been 
saved and will be reflected next time you refresh the screen".

Just a thought...

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

>From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?
>Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:58:03 +0100
>
>Hi Andy
>
>No, unions are read-only. If you can't go the update-behind-requery
>route, I guess you are left with the temp table.
>
>/gustav
>
> >>> andy at minstersystems.co.uk 18-11-2004 10:09:56 >>>
>
>Morning all
>I've a continuous screen which needs to list two types of order in
>date
>sequence. These are held on separate tables. No problem, a UNION query
>does
>the job fine. However the user has to tick an order to say it's
>despatched,
>and then the screen needs to show that information, but the recordset
>is not
>updatable. Presumably this applies to all UNION queries does it? Does
>anyone
>have a way round this or do I have to go to extracting to a temp table
>and
>all that jazz?
>
>By the way it's not practical to upodate the underlying tables and
>requery
>to display the depatch info because there's a lot of data on screen
>and
>requerying takes too long.
>
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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Fri Nov 19 07:57:55 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 05:57:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Search for linked documents....
Message-ID: <20041119135756.42665.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi group,
 
I've got some code from the ADHB2K to search for linked tables. However, it is also possible to link documents...office documents that is. So I mean files with extions like:
.xls;
.txt;
etc
 
Q1: how can I search for these linked 'documents'?
Q2: how can I pinpoint the xls files from none xls files?
 
TIA
 
Sander
 
 

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Nov 19 08:13:18 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 09:13:18 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?
In-Reply-To: <BAY101-F1495074886B535CAE33DBED2C30@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20041119141317.WEZQ2400.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

There is some odd trick in the back of my mind that I just can't quite
remember... 

Is there some trick about adding ALL to a UNION that makes it updateable? I
know, I'm probably crackers -- and I'm probably confusing this with
something else. 

All of my books are in storage and I can't even try to look it up. :( 

Susan H. 

Andy,

This might sound like dancing around this issue...but could you have user
click on the record to be updated...open a second query/form for just that
record...save the record...and the give a message, "Your update has been
saved and will be reflected next time you refresh the screen".




From william.thompson1 at att.net  Fri Nov 19 09:24:08 2004
From: william.thompson1 at att.net (William Thompson)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 07:24:08 -0800
Subject: [AccessD]  Finite instances of form in Edit,
	Add modes - Close cmdButton?
In-Reply-To: <20041119141317.WEZQ2400.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <200411191524.iAJFO9L18806@databaseadvisors.com>

Hi,
I have a SQL Server front-end that has to be a minimal code solution, and I
wanted to open a form, form_someform, with openargs "Edit" or "Add".

I don't want the user to have to 'x' out to close the form instance.  There
would only be the two additional instances.

My question is how to handle the close button in the new instance.  Am I
correct to presume that I have to pass the new instance a reference to
itself in order to hand control back to the caller?

The call to open the instance would be something like

Dim frmSomeTable As Form_SomeTable

 Set frmSomeTable = New Form_SomeTable

Form_SomeTable.Setfocus

Set Form_SomeTable = Nothing

''' I think the new instance needs a Method like

public sub InstanceIt(TheCaller as form)
    
    Set m_frmThis = Me
    
    Set m_frmCaller = TheCaller
    
    Me.Visible = True

end sub

''' So eventually I'd like to somehow have a command button that closes the
form sort of like..

Private Sub cmdCloseThis()

'''	Set m_frmThis = Nothing

''' Or I guess it has to be
''' HandItBackToTheCaller
me.Hide

m_frmCaller.SetFocus

End Sub

''' Caller's Code continued ...
Set Form_SomeTable = Nothing

This won't work though will it ?  I'm a little fuzzy on it, any help
appreciated.

Bill



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Nov 19 09:33:27 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 16:33:27 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.
Message-ID: <s19e2069.021@cactus.dk>

Hi Bobby
 
Always use the syntax stated here (one line):
 
http://www.databaseadvisors.com/newletters/newsletter032004/0310ReferenceGuide/SyntaxForSubs.htm
 
Other methods may work (as you have demonstrated) but they are
generally not considered good programming practice.
 
"Svar:" is Danish for "Re:". We have moved to a brand new GroupWise 6.5
system (boy, this rocks) and currently I'm running the Danish
localisation ... haven't found out yet how to adjust this detail.
 
/gustav


>>> bheid at appdevgrp.com 18-11-2004 19:26:38 >>>

Gustav,

Yes, that works also.  Why would I need to put .Report on the end?  It
already knows it is in the Reports collection?  

I have never seen anything like that when referencing something on a
form
either?  Is there a .Form for the forms?

Also, what is Svar in the subject?

Thanks,
Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav
Brock
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:37 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Svar: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.


Hi Bobby

What happens if you try?
The use of .Report should be the recommended syntax ...

/gustav

>>> bheid at appdevgrp.com 18-11-2004 17:30:50 >>>

I dunno, it works as I have it.  I have never used Report on the end
like
you have it.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav
Brock
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:09 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.


Hi Bobby

Shouldn't it read:

   With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub.Report
      If !txtSetBold <> 0 Then
         !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
      Else
         !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
         !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
      End If
   End With

/gustav

>>> bheid at appdevgrp.com 18-11-2004 16:53:24 >>>

Now this is really weird.  I played with it for over an hour yesterday
and
could not get it to work no matter how I changed it.  I went back in a
few
minutes ago and changed the code from:


   With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub
      If txtSetBold <> 0 Then
         !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         Else
            !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
            !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
         End If
      End With

TO 


   With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub
      If txtSetBold <> 0 Then
         txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         Else
            txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
            txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
         End If
      End With

And it now works.  I hate it when Access does this to me.

Thanks all.

Bobby



From Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com  Fri Nov 19 09:39:30 2004
From: Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com (Pickering, Stephen)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 09:39:30 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?
Message-ID: <35C4AC5A5AFD9642833200159C258156A32C7D@s98026.psd.caremark.int>

IIRC, UNION ALL doesn't make the query updateable, it just returns all
records from the unioned tables, without eliminating duplicate records.

Steve

----- Susan Harkins' Original Message-----
 
There is some odd trick in the back of my mind that I just can't quite
remember...

Is there some trick about adding ALL to a UNION that makes it updateable? I
know, I'm probably crackers -- and I'm probably confusing this with
something else.

All of my books are in storage and I can't even try to look it up. :(

Susan H.

Andy,

This might sound like dancing around this issue...but could you have user
click on the record to be updated...open a second query/form for just that
record...save the record...and the give a message, "Your update has been
saved and will be reflected next time you refresh the screen".


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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Fri Nov 19 09:43:38 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 09:43:38 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something
Message-ID: <000e01c4ce4e$8a192090$de1811d8@danwaters>

I have a client who would like their system to be able to present
reports in different languages, based on a selection made on-screen by
the reader.  How would I get started making this happen?  

 

Thanks,

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems



From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Fri Nov 19 09:46:53 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:46:53 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30A2B9B3@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB9FE@ADGSERVER>

Thanks for the link.  Printing it now.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:33 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.


Hi Bobby
 
Always use the syntax stated here (one line):
 
http://www.databaseadvisors.com/newletters/newsletter032004/0310ReferenceGui
de/SyntaxForSubs.htm
 
Other methods may work (as you have demonstrated) but they are generally not
considered good programming practice.
 
"Svar:" is Danish for "Re:". We have moved to a brand new GroupWise 6.5
system (boy, this rocks) and currently I'm running the Danish localisation
... haven't found out yet how to adjust this detail.
 
/gustav




From JColby at dispec.com  Fri Nov 19 09:47:21 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:47:21 -0500
Subject: [AccessD]  Finite instances of form in Edit, Add modes - Clos
	e cmdButton?
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF999@DISABILITYINS01>

A form opened in this manner has to have a pointer to the form stored
somewhere in order to remain open.  As soon as the last pointer to that form
is set to nothing, the form will close.

One way to keep the form open is to pass the pointer to the form in to the
form, where it stores the pointer to itself in its header. The close button
does nothing more than set that pointer = nothing.  That allows the form to
close itself.

It is not possible to pass pointers as openagrs, the data type of an openarg
is a string.  Thus you have to build a public function in the form being
opened that can be called and a pointer passed in, or the form being opened
has to reach back to the opening form and ask for the pointer to itself.  

The other way is to have the calling form to store the pointer to the form,
but now the calling form has to close the new form by setting the pointer to
nothing.

Does all this make sense?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: William Thompson [mailto:william.thompson1 at att.net]
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:24 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Finite instances of form in Edit, Add modes -
Close cmdButton?


Hi,
I have a SQL Server front-end that has to be a minimal code solution, and I
wanted to open a form, form_someform, with openargs "Edit" or "Add".

I don't want the user to have to 'x' out to close the form instance.  There
would only be the two additional instances.

My question is how to handle the close button in the new instance.  Am I
correct to presume that I have to pass the new instance a reference to
itself in order to hand control back to the caller?

The call to open the instance would be something like

Dim frmSomeTable As Form_SomeTable

 Set frmSomeTable = New Form_SomeTable

Form_SomeTable.Setfocus

Set Form_SomeTable = Nothing

''' I think the new instance needs a Method like

public sub InstanceIt(TheCaller as form)
    
    Set m_frmThis = Me
    
    Set m_frmCaller = TheCaller
    
    Me.Visible = True

end sub

''' So eventually I'd like to somehow have a command button that closes the
form sort of like..

Private Sub cmdCloseThis()

'''	Set m_frmThis = Nothing

''' Or I guess it has to be
''' HandItBackToTheCaller
me.Hide

m_frmCaller.SetFocus

End Sub

''' Caller's Code continued ...
Set Form_SomeTable = Nothing

This won't work though will it ?  I'm a little fuzzy on it, any help
appreciated.

Bill

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Nov 19 10:28:20 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 08:28:20 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B88@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Switch to VB.Net and XML?  (well, it IS Friday) :-}

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 7:44 AM
To: Database Advisors
Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something


I have a client who would like their system to be able to present
reports in different languages, based on a selection made on-screen by
the reader.  How would I get started making this happen?  

 

Thanks,

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems

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From artful at rogers.com  Fri Nov 19 10:28:07 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 11:28:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?
In-Reply-To: <s19c8e67.028@cactus.dk>
References: <s19c8e67.028@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <419E1F17.4060700@rogers.com>

I wouldn't be quite that hasty, Gustav. You are of course correct that 
UNIONs are read-only, but you can certainly grab the PK, pop up a form 
that permits the update, and Refresh rather than Requery. I've done this 
particular thing several times and it works a treat.

Arthur

Gustav Brock wrote:

>Hi Andy
> 
>No, unions are read-only. If you can't go the update-behind-requery
>route, I guess you are left with the temp table.
> 
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>andy at minstersystems.co.uk 18-11-2004 10:09:56 >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>
>Morning all
>I've a continuous screen which needs to list two types of order in
>date
>sequence. These are held on separate tables. No problem, a UNION query
>does
>the job fine. However the user has to tick an order to say it's
>despatched,
>and then the screen needs to show that information, but the recordset
>is not
>updatable. Presumably this applies to all UNION queries does it? Does
>anyone
>have a way round this or do I have to go to extracting to a temp table
>and
>all that jazz?
>
>By the way it's not practical to upodate the underlying tables and
>requery
>to display the depatch info because there's a lot of data on screen
>and
>requerying takes too long.
>
>--
>Andy Lacey
>http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>
>  
>


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Nov 19 10:30:56 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 08:30:56 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B89@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Unions are not updatable by definition, Susan, no matter what tricks you
use.  In a Union, there is no distinction between the tables the fields
come from and the names don't even have to match,just the datatypes, so
there's no way to update any of the data.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 6:13 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?


There is some odd trick in the back of my mind that I just can't quite
remember... 

Is there some trick about adding ALL to a UNION that makes it
updateable? I know, I'm probably crackers -- and I'm probably confusing
this with something else. 

All of my books are in storage and I can't even try to look it up. :( 

Susan H. 

Andy,

This might sound like dancing around this issue...but could you have
user click on the record to be updated...open a second query/form for
just that record...save the record...and the give a message, "Your
update has been saved and will be reflected next time you refresh the
screen".


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Nov 19 10:37:18 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 08:37:18 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ActiveX control for capturing a signature?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B8A@infoserver01.infostat.local>

You need additional hardware to capture the signature.  The kind of
hardware determines the software and the OCX you use.  We use the Topaz
SigLite pads, chosen in part because they are compatible with Access and
their support is good.  Warning:  programming this stuff and making it
work is tricky!  There are also security considerations.  Are the users
willing to have their signatures stored somewhere for an indeterminate
period and with unknown security?  We store sigs only long enough to
produce PDF documents containing the signed reports and then destroy the
signature string, which is captured in a table.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 6:04 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] ActiveX control for capturing a signature?


A client of mine has cobbled together a rickety Access app that runs on
a touch screen monitor.  He has his customers fill out a customer
satisfactions surveyo it by pressing buttons to select 1-10 ratings on
various elements of his service.  It's pretty clever.

However, he's not content to stop there.  He wants to provide a stylus
and have the customer sign their name to the survey right there on the
screen, and have the signatuire be stored as an OLE Object or as an
image file someplace..

I'm sure there's got to be an ActiveX control out there that will
capture this kind of input.  But I don't even know where to start
looking for it. 

Anyone do anything like this before?

-Chistopher-
Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Nov 19 10:39:23 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 08:39:23 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B8B@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Are they paying them many salaries as well?  Unless they're storing a
job history, many titles doesn't make sense to me.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhla at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:11 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


The Situation

On an inherited database the client has a single Employees form that
lists the with a text box for job title.

They want to have one employee with many job titles. I am trying to add
a sub form continuous view with a combo box.

 

 

SELECT stblEmpJobTitle.EmpID, stblEmpJobTitle.JobTitleID, [Job
Title].JobTitle

FROM [Job Title] LEFT JOIN stblEmpJobTitle ON [Job Title].JobTitleID =
stblEmpJobTitle.JobTitleID

WHERE (((stblEmpJobTitle.EmpID)=[Forms]![Employees]![EmpID]));

I need to not only show current job title but also assign new ones. When
I go to the next combo box it already has the existing job.

 

Looking for some help here please. 

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net 

 



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Nov 19 10:40:23 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 11:40:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?
In-Reply-To: <35C4AC5A5AFD9642833200159C258156A32C7D@s98026.psd.caremark.int>
Message-ID: <20041119164047.HUBM2443.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Yeah, I just have this nagging little "tip" that I can't seem to fully
remember -- and it may not have anything to do with making UNION updateable,
but rather using UNION in some other non-traditional manner. I hate having
everything boxed up. :( 

Susan H. 

IIRC, UNION ALL doesn't make the query updateable, it just returns all
records from the unioned tables, without eliminating duplicate records.




From JColby at dispec.com  Fri Nov 19 10:49:39 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 11:49:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF99C@DISABILITYINS01>

Many years ago I bought a library of functions for Turbo Pascal (I believe)
- the person who wrote it had the title(s) President and Chief Bottle
Washer.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


Are they paying them many salaries as well?  Unless they're storing a
job history, many titles doesn't make sense to me.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhla at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:11 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


The Situation

On an inherited database the client has a single Employees form that
lists the with a text box for job title.

They want to have one employee with many job titles. I am trying to add
a sub form continuous view with a combo box.

 

 

SELECT stblEmpJobTitle.EmpID, stblEmpJobTitle.JobTitleID, [Job
Title].JobTitle

FROM [Job Title] LEFT JOIN stblEmpJobTitle ON [Job Title].JobTitleID =
stblEmpJobTitle.JobTitleID

WHERE (((stblEmpJobTitle.EmpID)=[Forms]![Employees]![EmpID]));

I need to not only show current job title but also assign new ones. When
I go to the next combo box it already has the existing job.

 

Looking for some help here please. 

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net 

 

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Nov 19 10:52:39 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 17:52:39 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?
Message-ID: <s19e3304.024@cactus.dk>

Hi Andy 
 
OK, if that works, Andy would be fine. 
I haven't tried myself, just noted that a requery was out of the
qestion:
 
>By the way it's not practical to upodate the underlying tables and
requery
>to display the depatch info because there's a lot of data on screen
and
>requerying takes too long.

/gustav

>>> artful at rogers.com 19-11-2004 17:28:07 >>>

I wouldn't be quite that hasty, Gustav. You are of course correct that

UNIONs are read-only, but you can certainly grab the PK, pop up a form

that permits the update, and Refresh rather than Requery. I've done
this 
particular thing several times and it works a treat.

Arthur

Gustav Brock wrote:

>Hi Andy
> 
>No, unions are read-only. If you can't go the update-behind-requery
>route, I guess you are left with the temp table.
> 
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>andy at minstersystems.co.uk 18-11-2004 10:09:56 >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>
>Morning all
>I've a continuous screen which needs to list two types of order in
>date
>sequence. These are held on separate tables. No problem, a UNION
query
>does
>the job fine. However the user has to tick an order to say it's
>despatched,
>and then the screen needs to show that information, but the recordset
>is not
>updatable. Presumably this applies to all UNION queries does it? Does
>anyone
>have a way round this or do I have to go to extracting to a temp
table
>and
>all that jazz?
>
>By the way it's not practical to upodate the underlying tables and
>requery
>to display the depatch info because there's a lot of data on screen
>and
>requerying takes too long.
>
>--
>Andy Lacey
>http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



From jmhla at earthlink.net  Fri Nov 19 10:50:54 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 08:50:54 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B8B@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <200411191652.iAJGqwL31758@databaseadvisors.com>

Hey Charlotte,

I doubt it but I have a signed work order and a third person paying me so I
feel secure.

Joe Hecht
jmhla at earthlink.net
28g

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 8:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem

Are they paying them many salaries as well?  Unless they're storing a
job history, many titles doesn't make sense to me.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhla at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:11 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


The Situation

On an inherited database the client has a single Employees form that
lists the with a text box for job title.

They want to have one employee with many job titles. I am trying to add
a sub form continuous view with a combo box.

 

 

SELECT stblEmpJobTitle.EmpID, stblEmpJobTitle.JobTitleID, [Job
Title].JobTitle

FROM [Job Title] LEFT JOIN stblEmpJobTitle ON [Job Title].JobTitleID =
stblEmpJobTitle.JobTitleID

WHERE (((stblEmpJobTitle.EmpID)=[Forms]![Employees]![EmpID]));

I need to not only show current job title but also assign new ones. When
I go to the next combo box it already has the existing job.

 

Looking for some help here please. 

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net 

 

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Nov 19 11:28:26 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 09:28:26 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B8C@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Are you thinking of the tip on using a UNION to add an "ALL" selection
to a dropdown list?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 8:40 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?


Yeah, I just have this nagging little "tip" that I can't seem to fully
remember -- and it may not have anything to do with making UNION
updateable, but rather using UNION in some other non-traditional manner.
I hate having everything boxed up. :( 

Susan H. 

IIRC, UNION ALL doesn't make the query updateable, it just returns all
records from the unioned tables, without eliminating duplicate records.


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Nov 19 11:30:30 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 09:30:30 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B8D@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Yes, and I was formerly a Vice President/Corporate Secretary, but that
wasn't considered more than a single title.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 8:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


Many years ago I bought a library of functions for Turbo Pascal (I
believe)
- the person who wrote it had the title(s) President and Chief Bottle
Washer.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


Are they paying them many salaries as well?  Unless they're storing a
job history, many titles doesn't make sense to me.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhla at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:11 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


The Situation

On an inherited database the client has a single Employees form that
lists the with a text box for job title.

They want to have one employee with many job titles. I am trying to add
a sub form continuous view with a combo box.

 

 

SELECT stblEmpJobTitle.EmpID, stblEmpJobTitle.JobTitleID, [Job
Title].JobTitle

FROM [Job Title] LEFT JOIN stblEmpJobTitle ON [Job Title].JobTitleID =
stblEmpJobTitle.JobTitleID

WHERE (((stblEmpJobTitle.EmpID)=[Forms]![Employees]![EmpID]));

I need to not only show current job title but also assign new ones. When
I go to the next combo box it already has the existing job.

 

Looking for some help here please. 

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net 

 

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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Fri Nov 19 11:27:52 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:27:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74486B31@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

We have two of everything here at this point.  Pick the language, print the correct version report.

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:28 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
Something


Switch to VB.Net and XML?  (well, it IS Friday) :-}

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 7:44 AM
To: Database Advisors
Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something


I have a client who would like their system to be able to present
reports in different languages, based on a selection made on-screen by
the reader.  How would I get started making this happen?  

 

Thanks,

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems

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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Fri Nov 19 11:43:43 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 11:43:43 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something
In-Reply-To: <200411191729.iAJHTDL09065@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041119114207.03b1e520@pop3.highstream.net>

Or, start translating the reports and installing new
fonts if they are required for the language.  Then,
get ready to run the reports from their own MDB
because of the number of them.

Robert

At 11:29 AM 11/19/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 08:28:20 -0800
>From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
>         Something
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID:
>         <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B88 at infoserver01.infostat.local>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>Switch to VB.Net and XML?  (well, it IS Friday) :-}
>
>Charlotte Foust
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com]
>Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 7:44 AM
>To: Database Advisors
>Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something
>
>
>I have a client who would like their system to be able to present
>reports in different languages, based on a selection made on-screen by
>the reader.  How would I get started making this happen?
>
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Dan Waters
>
>ProMation Systems




From donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com  Fri Nov 19 11:53:44 2004
From: donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com (Mcgillivray, Donald [ITS])
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 11:53:44 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Need a summary query to return more than one record for
	amember of a group
Message-ID: <988E2AC88CCB54459286C4077DB662F502858655@PDAWB03C.ad.sprint.com>

Thanks, Gustav!  That should do the trick.  Never thought of using the
Top N in this way.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 10:07 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Need a summary query to return more than one record
for amember of a group


Hi Don
 
You need to, for each record, look up the date/time of the next entry
and calculate the minutes:
 
  lngMinutes: DateDiff("n", InsertTime, (Select Top 1 T.InsertTime From
tblTable As T Where T.InsertTime > tblTable.InsertTime Order By
T.InsertTime Asc)
 
The sum the minutes by grouping in another query where you use the
above as source.
 
/gustav

>>> donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com 18-11-2004 18:11:37 >>>

Hi, All

I have a table of data, populated by an automated mail insertion
system,
containing the following fields:

JobID 
MachineID
OperatorID
PieceID
InsertTime (Date + Time)

The system writes a record for each piece that is inserted by the
system.  Typically, there will be a single operator working a job on a
machine, but on larger jobs an operator's shift may be interrupted by
another operator (relief during breaks, technicians making
adjustments,
repairs, etc.)  When these interruptions occur, the interrupter logs
in
and any work processed during the interruption is logged under the
interrupter's ID.  Then when the original operator returns, s/he logs
in
and subsequent work is logged under that ID.  A summary query grouped
on
JobID, MachineID, and OperatorID, with count of PieceID and min and
max
of InsertTime gives me a single record for each operator showing piece
count and start and end time.  However, the delta between the min and
max times does not reflect the actual elapsed time for each, since the
original operator's min and max times encompass the period when the
interrupter was logged in as well.  

I know I could loop thru the records incrementing counters and write a
record to a table when a change in operator is detected, but my
preference is to capture elapsed run time for each operator using a
single query.  Anybody know if/how I can return more than one record
for
a member of a group in a summary query?

Don McGillivray
Sprint Mailing Services

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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Fri Nov 19 11:53:27 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:53:27 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C43C@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

They do things a little different in California, I hear.  Maybe it is
for the cross-whatevers to accommodate their two identities.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 12:31 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


Yes, and I was formerly a Vice President/Corporate Secretary, but that
wasn't considered more than a single title.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 8:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


Many years ago I bought a library of functions for Turbo Pascal (I
believe)
- the person who wrote it had the title(s) President and Chief Bottle
Washer.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


Are they paying them many salaries as well?  Unless they're storing a
job history, many titles doesn't make sense to me.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhla at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:11 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


The Situation

On an inherited database the client has a single Employees form that
lists the with a text box for job title.

They want to have one employee with many job titles. I am trying to add
a sub form continuous view with a combo box.

 

 

SELECT stblEmpJobTitle.EmpID, stblEmpJobTitle.JobTitleID, [Job
Title].JobTitle

FROM [Job Title] LEFT JOIN stblEmpJobTitle ON [Job Title].JobTitleID =
stblEmpJobTitle.JobTitleID

WHERE (((stblEmpJobTitle.EmpID)=[Forms]![Employees]![EmpID]));

I need to not only show current job title but also assign new ones. When
I go to the next combo box it already has the existing job.

 

Looking for some help here please. 

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net 

 

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Fri Nov 19 12:22:33 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:22:33 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C43C@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <200411191824.iAJIOYL07083@databaseadvisors.com>

The cross rookie programmers?

Joe Hecht
jmhla at earthlink.net
28g

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 9:53 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem

They do things a little different in California, I hear.  Maybe it is
for the cross-whatevers to accommodate their two identities.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 12:31 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


Yes, and I was formerly a Vice President/Corporate Secretary, but that
wasn't considered more than a single title.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 8:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


Many years ago I bought a library of functions for Turbo Pascal (I
believe)
- the person who wrote it had the title(s) President and Chief Bottle
Washer.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


Are they paying them many salaries as well?  Unless they're storing a
job history, many titles doesn't make sense to me.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhla at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:11 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


The Situation

On an inherited database the client has a single Employees form that
lists the with a text box for job title.

They want to have one employee with many job titles. I am trying to add
a sub form continuous view with a combo box.

 

 

SELECT stblEmpJobTitle.EmpID, stblEmpJobTitle.JobTitleID, [Job
Title].JobTitle

FROM [Job Title] LEFT JOIN stblEmpJobTitle ON [Job Title].JobTitleID =
stblEmpJobTitle.JobTitleID

WHERE (((stblEmpJobTitle.EmpID)=[Forms]![Employees]![EmpID]));

I need to not only show current job title but also assign new ones. When
I go to the next combo box it already has the existing job.

 

Looking for some help here please. 

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net 

 

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Fri Nov 19 12:32:46 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:32:46 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C43C@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <200411191834.iAJIYlL18698@databaseadvisors.com>

They weren't before but they are now.
Joe Hecht
jmhla at earthlink.net
28g

From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


Are they paying them many salaries as well?  Unless they're storing a
job history, many titles doesn't make sense to me.

Charlotte Foust
ite: http://www.databaseadvisors.com




From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Nov 19 12:42:44 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:42:44 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something
References: <000e01c4ce4e$8a192090$de1811d8@danwaters>
Message-ID: <419E3EA4.2070408@shaw.ca>

I use French English Data Entry for Access occasionally in programs for 
Canadian Federal Gov't requirements.

For starters you want to setup your keyboard for multilanguage input.
Go to Control panel Regional  Language Setting , Select Language Tab, 
Click Details
Now select the language HeHeehee, this is where your problems start.
There are 18 Regional versions of Spanish available.
Okay so select one. Then choose where you want the language selection 
bar to appear floating at top of screen or in  taskbar
Check em all off till you are comfortable with one
Also click Key Settings to allow switching language setting from 
keyboard, I use Alt-LeftShift.
I have code lying around that allows you to interrogate the language bar 
from vba code and switch it. This allows bilingual form data entry.
Now you can enter headers in design mode etc for seperate reports in 
whatever language via Unicode
Different languages require you to perhaps change positions on reports, 
ie German words are 30% longer than English.
I guess you will have to discuss with your client how to handle detail 
lines from tables
Does she want a Spanish translation of Widgets to appear. El Widget? or 
La Widget.
There are some automatic translation programs that may help here in 
$1000 range.

Then you will have to change your queries and tables to handle this.
Just hope they don't want time and currency formats changed.

Bonne Chance. Buena Suerte

Dan Waters wrote:

>I have a client who would like their system to be able to present
>reports in different languages, based on a selection made on-screen by
>the reader.  How would I get started making this happen?  
>
> 
>
>Thanks,
>
>Dan Waters
>
>ProMation Systems
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Nov 19 12:50:28 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:50:28 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B89@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <20041119185105.HMAY2410.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I know, I know, I know... ;) 

Still, something is nagging at me. 

In the middle of the night, it will rush into my head, wake me up and I will
realize it had nothing at all to do with the subject at hand. <groan>

Susan H. 

Unions are not updatable by definition, Susan, no matter what tricks you
use.  In a Union, there is no distinction between the tables the fields come
from and the names don't even have to match,just the datatypes, so there's
no way to update any of the data.




From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Nov 19 12:53:27 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:53:27 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B8E@infoserver01.infostat.local>

No, it's the veteran programmers who get cross.  The rookies don't know
enough to be cranky! 

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhla at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:23 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


The cross rookie programmers?

Joe Hecht
jmhla at earthlink.net
28g

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 9:53 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem

They do things a little different in California, I hear.  Maybe it is
for the cross-whatevers to accommodate their two identities.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 12:31 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


Yes, and I was formerly a Vice President/Corporate Secretary, but that
wasn't considered more than a single title.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 8:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


Many years ago I bought a library of functions for Turbo Pascal (I
believe)
- the person who wrote it had the title(s) President and Chief Bottle
Washer.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


Are they paying them many salaries as well?  Unless they're storing a
job history, many titles doesn't make sense to me.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhla at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:11 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


The Situation

On an inherited database the client has a single Employees form that
lists the with a text box for job title.

They want to have one employee with many job titles. I am trying to add
a sub form continuous view with a combo box.

 

 

SELECT stblEmpJobTitle.EmpID, stblEmpJobTitle.JobTitleID, [Job
Title].JobTitle

FROM [Job Title] LEFT JOIN stblEmpJobTitle ON [Job Title].JobTitleID =
stblEmpJobTitle.JobTitleID

WHERE (((stblEmpJobTitle.EmpID)=[Forms]![Employees]![EmpID]));

I need to not only show current job title but also assign new ones. When
I go to the next combo box it already has the existing job.

 

Looking for some help here please. 

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net 

 

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Nov 19 13:39:30 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 14:39:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B8C@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <20041119194006.FXYR2400.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

No, but possible the trick of adding ALL to UNION to speed it up -- maybe...
Who knows... I have a bad headache. :) Mixed up Access tips often dance
around in my head when I have a headache. :) 

Susan H. 

Are you thinking of the tip on using a UNION to add an "ALL" selection to a
dropdown list?




From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Fri Nov 19 13:51:12 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:51:12 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS - Repost
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233723A@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

re: "lost messages" they are probably up on some screen of an overworked
security analyst in Homeland security who is trying to decide if they are OK
to let through.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com]
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 7:48 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS - Repost


Darren,

I'm glad you actually got the post.  I still haven't seen either of my posts
from this thread:(  I truly believe I am missing a growing number of posts
from my dba lists, but I haven't got a clue as to why or if there is a
pattern emerging.

Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: Darren DICK [mailto:d.dick at uws.edu.au] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 5:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS - Repost


Hi Mark
Perfect - Excellent bit of work
Many thanks

Darren
 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
Sent: Friday, 19 November 2004 2:46 AM
To: [AccessD]
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS - Repost

Darren,

When doing maintenance on my departmental website, I use Xenu's Link Sleuth.
I am fairly certain that it is still free to download.
http://home.snafu.de/tilman/xenulink.html  Not only can it verify links
within a website, but for you purposes I believe it will verify a simple
text listing of URLs.

It is extremely fast.


Mark
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Fri Nov 19 14:49:19 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 14:49:19 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something
In-Reply-To: <29937037.1100885921698.JavaMail.root@sniper17.securence.com>
Message-ID: <001001c4ce79$3de4dc70$de1811d8@danwaters>

Jim,

Are your reports partially translated on the fly?  If not it seems that
you would need to have your original text information recorded in two
separate places - one for each language?

If on the fly how is this done?

Dan

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:28 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
Something

We have two of everything here at this point.  Pick the language, print
the correct version report.

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:28 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
Something


Switch to VB.Net and XML?  (well, it IS Friday) :-}

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 7:44 AM
To: Database Advisors
Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something


I have a client who would like their system to be able to present
reports in different languages, based on a selection made on-screen by
the reader.  How would I get started making this happen?  

 

Thanks,

Dan Waters

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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Fri Nov 19 15:01:28 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 16:01:28 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS - Repost
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F3398D@nprdex02.nns.com>

;) Sad that it could be true...maybe not today, but someday...


Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Hale, Jim [mailto:Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 2:51 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS - Repost


re: "lost messages" they are probably up on some screen of an overworked
security analyst in Homeland security who is trying to decide if they are OK
to let through.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com]
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 7:48 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS - Repost


Darren,

I'm glad you actually got the post.  I still haven't seen either of my posts
from this thread:(  I truly believe I am missing a growing number of posts
from my dba lists, but I haven't got a clue as to why or if there is a
pattern emerging.

Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: Darren DICK [mailto:d.dick at uws.edu.au] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 5:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS - Repost


Hi Mark
Perfect - Excellent bit of work
Many thanks

Darren
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
Sent: Friday, 19 November 2004 2:46 AM
To: [AccessD]
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS - Repost

Darren,

When doing maintenance on my departmental website, I use Xenu's Link Sleuth.
I am fairly certain that it is still free to download.
http://home.snafu.de/tilman/xenulink.html  Not only can it verify links
within a website, but for you purposes I believe it will verify a simple
text listing of URLs.

It is extremely fast.


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From pcs at azizaz.com  Fri Nov 19 17:44:41 2004
From: pcs at azizaz.com (Borge Hansen)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 09:44:41 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Triple State Check Box 
References: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F3398D@nprdex02.nns.com>
Message-ID: <005001c4ce91$c05aea60$fa10a8c0@Albatross>

Hi,
I've been playing around with the triple state property of a checkbox on a
bound multirecord subform bound to a Yes/No field in the backend table.

To make it work I finally had to bind the check box control to a field with
a different datatype.
It's now bound to an integer field
with default value of 'null'
and validation rule set to: 'Between -1 And 0 Or Is Null' .

Now it works.

But : Is that the (only) way to do it, or have I overlooked something?

Regards
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From william.thompson1 at att.net  Fri Nov 19 19:51:52 2004
From: william.thompson1 at att.net (william.thompson1 at att.net)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 01:51:52 +0000
Subject: [AccessD]  Finite instances of form in Edit,
	Add modes - Close cmdButton?
Message-ID: <112020040151.12465.419EA337000D5E16000030B12160280741CE02019C9F0301089BD2030E0704040799@att.net>

Yes, that does make sense.  I think what threw me at first was seeing 'SetFocus' as in:
set ....etc
Form_FrmSome.Setfocus

I realize now that's how control is passed to the instance.  The visible property happens later, and in the new instance itself.

me.visible = true

I understand now that a Public Function is built in the new instance form, which allows it to retain a reference to itself, and that a reference could not be passed via openargs.  Another part of this that is always tricky for me is that a form's Public Function can be called when it is not loaded.  It's not hidden in this pristine state, yet it remains unloaded and can cycle through records.

I think ideally I'd like to have, as you describe, the close button set the reference = nothing

Thanks,
Bill

-------------- Original message from "Colby, John" <JColby at dispec.com>: -------------- 


> A form opened in this manner has to have a pointer to the form stored 
> somewhere in order to remain open. As soon as the last pointer to that form 
> is set to nothing, the form will close. 
> 
> One way to keep the form open is to pass the pointer to the form in to the 
> form, where it stores the pointer to itself in its header. The close button 
> does nothing more than set that pointer = nothing. That allows the form to 
> close itself. 
> 
> It is not possible to pass pointers as openagrs, the data type of an openarg 
> is a string. Thus you have to build a public function in the form being 
> opened that can be called and a pointer passed in, or the form being opened 
> has to reach back to the opening form and ask for the pointer to itself. 
> 
> The other way is to have the calling form to store the pointer to the form, 
> but now the calling form has to close the new form by setting the pointer to 
> nothing. 
> 
> Does all this make sense? 
> 
> John W. Colby 
> The DIS Database Guy 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: William Thompson [mailto:william.thompson1 at att.net] 
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:24 AM 
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Finite instances of form in Edit, Add modes - 
> Close cmdButton? 
> 
> 
> Hi, 
> I have a SQL Server front-end that has to be a minimal code solution, and I 
> wanted to open a form, form_someform, with openargs "Edit" or "Add". 
> 
> I don't want the user to have to 'x' out to close the form instance. There 
> would only be the two additional instances. 
> 
> My question is how to handle the close button in the new instance. Am I 
> correct to presume that I have to pass the new instance a reference to 
> itself in order to hand control back to the caller? 
> 
> The call to open the instance would be something like 
> 
> Dim frmSomeTable As Form_SomeTable 
> 
> Set frmSomeTable = New Form_SomeTable 
> 
> Form_SomeTable.Setfocus 
> 
> Set Form_SomeTable = Nothing 
> 
> ''' I think the new instance needs a Method like 
> 
> public sub InstanceIt(TheCaller as form) 
> 
> Set m_frmThis = Me 
> 
> Set m_frmCaller = TheCaller 
> 
> Me.Visible = True 
> 
> end sub 
> 
> ''' So eventually I'd like to somehow have a command button that closes the 
> form sort of like.. 
> 
> Private Sub cmdCloseThis() 
> 
> ''' Set m_frmThis = Nothing 
> 
> ''' Or I guess it has to be 
> ''' HandItBackToTheCaller 
> me.Hide 
> 
> m_frmCaller.SetFocus 
> 
> End Sub 
> 
> ''' Caller's Code continued ... 
> Set Form_SomeTable = Nothing 
> 
> This won't work though will it ? I'm a little fuzzy on it, any help 
> appreciated. 
> 
> Bill 
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From lmrazek at lcm-res.com  Sat Nov 20 07:44:46 2004
From: lmrazek at lcm-res.com (Lawrence Mrazek)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 07:44:46 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] ActiveX Charting Control For Access?
In-Reply-To: <112020040151.12465.419EA337000D5E16000030B12160280741CE02019C9F0301089BD2030E0704040799@att.net>
Message-ID: <200411200844478.SM01080@hplaptop>

 Hi:

Does anyone have recommendations regarding charting/graphing software for
Access XP? I'm currently a bit annoyed with the built-in charting
capabilities for Access; it doesn't do the things I need (or at least I
can't discover how to do it).

Basically, I just need a flexible solution to create bar/line/pie graphs.
The component should have the following features:

1. Ability to set colors (EX: Everytime I graph maintenance code "05", I'd
like it to be RED) via code. (this is my main problem with Microsoft Graph
right now).

2. Flexible labeling capabilities.

3. Compatible with Access XP.

4. Good output options ... Most of the graphs/charts will be printed.

Thanks in advance for any help/advice.  

Larry Mrazek
LCM Research, Inc.
www.lcm-res.com
lmrazek at lcm-res.com
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fx. 314-432-3304




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Nov 20 08:21:14 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 09:21:14 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Norton av
Message-ID: <000e01c4cf0c$343b8690$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Does anyone know how to get nav to just quietly quarantine virus messages?
For some reason my new address got on a virus writer's list and I am getting
10 a day - all from .de email address.  I'd like to have nav just stop
telling me about the viruses and just quarantine them.

John W. Colby
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sat Nov 20 11:43:34 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 11:43:34 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Change SubDatasheetName to [None] in code?
Message-ID: <000001c4cf28$758a0ec0$de1811d8@danwaters>

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!

 

I want to write a utility sub to change the SubDatasheetName property in
tables to [None].  I'm trying to use the code below, but get an error of
'The object is closed or does not exist' at the code line beginning Set
prp =.  The table is open and in Design view.

 

    Dim obj As AccessObject

    Dim prp As DAO.Property

    Dim stgName As String

    

    For Each obj In CurrentData.AllTables

        stgName = obj.Name

        DoCmd.OpenTable stgName, acViewDesign, acEdit

        Set prp = obj.CreateProperty("SubDatasheetName", dbText,
"[None]")

        DoCmd.Close acTable, stgName, acSaveYes

    Next

 

Can this be done?

 

Thanks,

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems, Inc.



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Nov 20 12:42:22 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 19:42:22 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Change SubDatasheetName to [None] in code?
Message-ID: <s19f9e2e.035@cactus.dk>

Hi Dan
 
Here is how Kath Pelletti did a year ago:
 
Function TurnOffSubDataSheets()
  Dim MyDB As DAO.Database
  Dim MyProperty As DAO.Property
  
  Dim propName As String
  Dim PropType As Integer
  Dim propVal As String
  
  Dim strS As String
  
  Set MyDB = CurrentDb
  
  propName = "SubDataSheetName"
  PropType = 10
  propVal = "[NONE]"
  
  On Error Resume Next
  
  For I = 0 To MyDB.TableDefs.Count - 1
      
      If (MyDB.TableDefs(I).Attributes And dbSystemObject) = 0 Then
 
          If MyDB.TableDefs(I).Properties(propName).Value <> propVal
Then
             MyDB.TableDefs(I).Properties(propName).Value = propVal
             intChangedTables = intChangedTables + 1
          End If
 
          If Err.Number = 3270 Then
             Set MyProperty =
MyDB.TableDefs(I).CreateProperty(propName)
             MyProperty.Type = PropType
             MyProperty.Value = propVal
             MyDB.TableDefs(I).Properties.Append MyProperty
          Else
             If Err.Number <> 0 Then
                 MsgBox "Error: " & Err.Number & " on Table " _
                 & MyDB.TableDefs(I).Name & "."
                 MyDB.Close
                 Exit Function
             End If
          End If
          
      End If
  Next I
 
MsgBox "The " & propName & _
" value for all non-system tables has been updated to " & propVal &
"."
 
MyDB.Close
 
End Function

/gustav

>>> dwaters at usinternet.com 20-11-2004 18:43:34 >>>

I want to write a utility sub to change the SubDatasheetName property
in
tables to [None].  I'm trying to use the code below, but get an error
of
'The object is closed or does not exist' at the code line beginning
Set
prp =.  The table is open and in Design view.

    Dim obj As AccessObject

    Dim prp As DAO.Property

    Dim stgName As String

      For Each obj In CurrentData.AllTables

        stgName = obj.Name

        DoCmd.OpenTable stgName, acViewDesign, acEdit

        Set prp = obj.CreateProperty("SubDatasheetName", dbText,
"[None]")

        DoCmd.Close acTable, stgName, acSaveYes

    Next

Can this be done?

Thanks,

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems, Inc.



From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sat Nov 20 13:10:21 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 13:10:21 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Change SubDatasheetName to [None] in code?
In-Reply-To: <25131053.1100976769639.JavaMail.root@sniper17.securence.com>
Message-ID: <000001c4cf34$950fdbb0$de1811d8@danwaters>

Thanks Gustav! (and Kath)!

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 12:42 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Change SubDatasheetName to [None] in code?

Hi Dan
 
Here is how Kath Pelletti did a year ago:
 
Function TurnOffSubDataSheets()
  Dim MyDB As DAO.Database
  Dim MyProperty As DAO.Property
  
  Dim propName As String
  Dim PropType As Integer
  Dim propVal As String
  
  Dim strS As String
  
  Set MyDB = CurrentDb
  
  propName = "SubDataSheetName"
  PropType = 10
  propVal = "[NONE]"
  
  On Error Resume Next
  
  For I = 0 To MyDB.TableDefs.Count - 1
      
      If (MyDB.TableDefs(I).Attributes And dbSystemObject) = 0 Then
 
          If MyDB.TableDefs(I).Properties(propName).Value <> propVal
Then
             MyDB.TableDefs(I).Properties(propName).Value = propVal
             intChangedTables = intChangedTables + 1
          End If
 
          If Err.Number = 3270 Then
             Set MyProperty =
MyDB.TableDefs(I).CreateProperty(propName)
             MyProperty.Type = PropType
             MyProperty.Value = propVal
             MyDB.TableDefs(I).Properties.Append MyProperty
          Else
             If Err.Number <> 0 Then
                 MsgBox "Error: " & Err.Number & " on Table " _
                 & MyDB.TableDefs(I).Name & "."
                 MyDB.Close
                 Exit Function
             End If
          End If
          
      End If
  Next I
 
MsgBox "The " & propName & _
" value for all non-system tables has been updated to " & propVal &
"."
 
MyDB.Close
 
End Function

/gustav

>>> dwaters at usinternet.com 20-11-2004 18:43:34 >>>

I want to write a utility sub to change the SubDatasheetName property
in
tables to [None].  I'm trying to use the code below, but get an error
of
'The object is closed or does not exist' at the code line beginning
Set
prp =.  The table is open and in Design view.

    Dim obj As AccessObject

    Dim prp As DAO.Property

    Dim stgName As String

      For Each obj In CurrentData.AllTables

        stgName = obj.Name

        DoCmd.OpenTable stgName, acViewDesign, acEdit

        Set prp = obj.CreateProperty("SubDatasheetName", dbText,
"[None]")

        DoCmd.Close acTable, stgName, acSaveYes

    Next

Can this be done?

Thanks,

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems, Inc.

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From lists at theopg.com  Wed Nov 17 12:05:52 2004
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 18:05:52 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Accessing data in secured mdb from another secured mdb on
	a different workgroup
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20041116135414.01419f28@pop3.highstream.net>
Message-ID: <000001c4ccd0$147c70a0$0e0b6bd5@netboxxp>

Hello All

Using AXP on WinXP

I have two databases secured on different workgroups and accessed from
different front ends. I need to be able to import data from one into the
other but am having problems as they are secured on different mdw's. I
could merge the two mdw's but that would be a bit of a pain.

Anyone know a simple solution?

Thanks in advance

Mark

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From john at winhaven.net  Sat Nov 20 19:00:21 2004
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 19:00:21 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Norton av
In-Reply-To: <000e01c4cf0c$343b8690$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKIEEBLGDAA.john@winhaven.net>

Depends on the version but in the last couple of them you go into NAV then
click options then email then "try to repair, if unsuccessful quietly
delete".

HTH
John B.


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 8:21 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Norton av


Does anyone know how to get nav to just quietly quarantine virus messages?
For some reason my new address got on a virus writer's list and I am getting
10 a day - all from .de email address.  I'd like to have nav just stop
telling me about the viruses and just quarantine them.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Nov 20 19:55:35 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 17:55:35 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Norton av
In-Reply-To: <000e01c4cf0c$343b8690$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIMEGNCIAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi John:

Just add the particular .de mail to your junk email list and aim it straight
to the Deleted Items folder.

HTH
Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 6:21 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Norton av


Does anyone know how to get nav to just quietly quarantine virus messages?
For some reason my new address got on a virus writer's list and I am getting
10 a day - all from .de email address.  I'd like to have nav just stop
telling me about the viruses and just quarantine them.

John W. Colby
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Nov 20 20:21:05 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 21:21:05 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Norton av
In-Reply-To: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIMEGNCIAA.accessd@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <001a01c4cf70$c16476d0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Id have to do the entire domain.  The address is no doubt spoofed and coming
from a different address every time.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
(AccessD)
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 8:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Norton av


Hi John:

Just add the particular .de mail to your junk email list and aim it straight
to the Deleted Items folder.

HTH
Jim

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Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 6:21 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Norton av


Does anyone know how to get nav to just quietly quarantine virus messages?
For some reason my new address got on a virus writer's list and I am getting
10 a day - all from .de email address.  I'd like to have nav just stop
telling me about the viruses and just quarantine them.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sat Nov 20 22:28:14 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 20:28:14 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] x posted Get name for message box
Message-ID: <000001c4cf82$87391620$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

I have the following code for the on click event of a form. I want to
replace " this employee " with the current employee name on the form.

 

How do I do that?

 

Private Sub cmdDelEmp_Click()

    ' Comments  Confirm Employeee Deletion:

    ' Parameters:  -

    ' Modified  :

    Dim lngRetval As Long

 

    lngRetval = MsgBox( _

        "You have chosen to delete this employee!" & vbCrLf & "" & vbCrLf &
"Do you wish to continue?", _

        vbYesNoCancel + vbQuestion + vbSystemModal + vbDefaultButton1, _

        "Confirm Emplyee Deletion")

 

    Select Case lngRetval

        Case vbYes

             DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 8, , acMenuVer70

             DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 6, , acMenuVer70

        

        Case vbNo

        Case vbCancel

    End Select

    '

    ' -------------------------------------

    

  

    

Exit_cmdDelEmp_Click:

    Exit Sub

    

Err_cmdDelEmp_Click:

    MsgBox Err.Description

    Resume Exit_cmdDelEmp_Click

    

End Sub

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 



From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Sat Nov 20 22:40:42 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Steve Conklin (Developer@UltraDNT))
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 23:40:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] x posted Get name for message box
In-Reply-To: <000001c4cf82$87391620$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <000c01c4cf84$429cedf0$0200a8c0@COA3>

"You have chosen to delete " & Me.FirstName & " " & Me.LastName & "!"
-- substituting your control names for first & last name

Hth
Steve


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Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 11:28 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'ACCESS-L'
Subject: [AccessD] x posted Get name for message box


I have the following code for the on click event of a form. I want to
replace " this employee " with the current employee name on the form.

 

How do I do that?

 

Private Sub cmdDelEmp_Click()

    ' Comments  Confirm Employeee Deletion:

    ' Parameters:  -

    ' Modified  :

    Dim lngRetval As Long

 

    lngRetval = MsgBox( _

        "You have chosen to delete this employee!" & vbCrLf & "" &
vbCrLf & "Do you wish to continue?", _

        vbYesNoCancel + vbQuestion + vbSystemModal + vbDefaultButton1, _

        "Confirm Emplyee Deletion")

 

    Select Case lngRetval

        Case vbYes

             DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 8, , acMenuVer70

             DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 6, , acMenuVer70

        

        Case vbNo

        Case vbCancel

    End Select

    '

    ' -------------------------------------

    

  

    

Exit_cmdDelEmp_Click:

    Exit Sub

    

Err_cmdDelEmp_Click:

    MsgBox Err.Description

    Resume Exit_cmdDelEmp_Click

    

End Sub

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sat Nov 20 22:58:11 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 20:58:11 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] XPOSTED Where to put a query.
Message-ID: <000501c4cf86$b6bb9310$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

I am working on an inherited database.

 

The original database there was a 1->1 relationship between employees and
job titles.

 

At the request of the client, I have made a 1->many relationship between
employees and job titles.

 

This sql was the after update to the form:

 

INSERT INTO TrainDate ( EmpID, DocID )

SELECT Employee.EmpID, JobDoc.DocID

FROM Employee INNER JOIN JobDoc ON Employee.JobTitleID = JobDoc.JobTitleID

WHERE (((Employee.EmpID)=[Forms]![Employees]![EmpID]) AND
((Employee.JobTitleID)=[JobDoc].[JobTitleID]));

 

I need to know please:

          1. Where do I put the sql statement to check each record on the
subform.

          2. How do I ensure it does not add duplicate records if a
potentional situation

                   a. existing employee is in the system

                   b. if they are assigned a second or more job title 

 

Hope this is clear.

 

TIA

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 



From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sat Nov 20 23:05:39 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 21:05:39 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] x posted Get name for message box
In-Reply-To: <000001c4cf82$87391620$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <000a01c4cf87$c24b8400$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

Thanks Steve,

Gotta love these lists

New problem: How do I get related records in other tables?

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 8:28 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'ACCESS-L'
Subject: [AccessD] x posted Get name for message box

I have the following code for the on click event of a form. I want to
replace " this employee " with the current employee name on the form.

 

How do I do that?

 

Private Sub cmdDelEmp_Click()

    ' Comments  Confirm Employeee Deletion:

    ' Parameters:  -

    ' Modified  :

    Dim lngRetval As Long

 

    lngRetval = MsgBox( _

        "You have chosen to delete this employee!" & vbCrLf & "" & vbCrLf &
"Do you wish to continue?", _

        vbYesNoCancel + vbQuestion + vbSystemModal + vbDefaultButton1, _

        "Confirm Emplyee Deletion")

 

    Select Case lngRetval

        Case vbYes

             DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 8, , acMenuVer70

             DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 6, , acMenuVer70

        

        Case vbNo

        Case vbCancel

    End Select

    '

    ' -------------------------------------

    

  

    

Exit_cmdDelEmp_Click:

    Exit Sub

    

Err_cmdDelEmp_Click:

    MsgBox Err.Description

    Resume Exit_cmdDelEmp_Click

    

End Sub

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sat Nov 20 23:20:47 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 21:20:47 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] How do I find out about .dlls
Message-ID: <000b01c4cf89$e0d57050$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

Specificly owc10.dll

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Nov 21 02:42:41 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 09:42:41 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] How do I find out about .dlls
Message-ID: <s1a0632c.036@cactus.dk>

Hi Joe
 
Google - too many hits to list.

/gustav

>>> jmhla at earthlink.net 21-11-2004 06:20:47 >>>

Specificly owc10.dll



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Nov 21 04:21:22 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 11:21:22 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Search for linked documents....
Message-ID: <s1a07a47.039@cactus.dk>

Hi Sander

This is doable but not straight forward.

First, linked "documents" are treated as ISAM databases and tables. For
text and xBase and Paradox files, the directory is the "database" while
for Excel and Html the file is the database. Linked MAPI tables are even
more excotic so I will leave them for this. Linked ODBC tables are
complete different as they are identified by their connect strings.

Second, tables may be linked with other names than their true names.

This a query which will return all non-deleted links:

  SELECT DISTINCT 
    RTrim([Database]) AS DbsPath, 
    MSysObjects.Connect, 
    Hex(GetTableType([Flags])) AS TableType, 
    MSysObjects.ForeignName, 
    GetTrueForeignName(GetTableType([Flags]),[ForeignName]) AS
TrueForeignName, 
    MSysObjects.Name AS LinkedName
 FROM 
    MSysObjects
  WHERE 
    (IsTablePresent([Flags])=True) 
    AND 
    (MSysObjects.Type=4 Or MSysObjects.Type=6);

It uses these supporting functions:

<code>

Declarations.

  ' Table types known.
  '
  ' ODBC connection.
  Private Const clngTableTypeNone       As Long = &H0
  ' Note: MS MSDE/SQL Server has some higher bits set as well.
  Private Const clngTableTypeOdbc       As Long = &H100000
  ' Jet file attached by UNC name.
  Private Const clngTableTypeJetUnc     As Long = &H200000
  ' Jet file attached by mapped drive letter.
  Private Const clngTableTypeJetDrive   As Long = &H400000
  Private Const clngTableTypeParadox    As Long = &H700000
  Private Const clngTableTypeDbase      As Long = &H800000
  Private Const clngTableTypeText       As Long = &HA00000
  Private Const clngTableTypeExcel      As Long = &HB00000
  Private Const clngTableTypeOutlook    As Long = &HD00000
  Private Const clngTableTypeHtml       As Long = &HE00000

Public Function GetTrueForeignName( _
  ByVal lngTableType As Long, _
  ByVal strForeignName As String) _
  As String
  
' Returns true foreign name for those ISAM table types
' where this is stored as an alias.
' Foreign names for other table types are not altered.
'
' Example Excel:
'   Alias for worksheet: Sheet1$
'   True name: Sheet1
' Example Paradox:
'   Alias for table name: Pdoxfile#db
'   True name: Pdoxfile.db
'
' 2004-05-10. Cactus Data ApS, CPH.

  Const cstrSepDbase    As String = "#"
  Const cstrSepParadox  As String = "#"
  Const cstrSepText     As String = "#"
  Const cstrSepExcel    As String = "$"
  Const cstrRplExcel    As String = vbNullString
  
  Dim strTrueName   As String
  Dim lngPos        As Long
  
  Select Case lngTableType
    Case clngTableTypeParadox
      lngPos = InStr(strForeignName, cstrSepParadox)
      If lngPos > 1 Then
        strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, lngPos - 1)
      Else
        strTrueName = strForeignName
      End If
    Case clngTableTypeDbase
      lngPos = InStr(strForeignName, cstrSepDbase)
      If lngPos > 1 Then
        strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, lngPos - 1)
      Else
        strTrueName = strForeignName
      End If
    Case clngTableTypeExcel
      If Right(strForeignName, 1) = cstrSepExcel Then
        ' Worksheet. Strip traling "$".
        strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, Len(strForeignName) - 1)
      Else
        ' Named Range. Leave as is.
        strTrueName = strForeignName
      End If
    Case clngTableTypeText
      lngPos = InStr(strForeignName, cstrSepText)
      If lngPos > 1 Then
        strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, lngPos - 1)
      Else
        strTrueName = strForeignName
      End If
    Case Else
      strTrueName = strForeignName
  End Select
  
  GetTrueForeignName = strTrueName
  
End Function

Public Function IsTablePresent( _
  ByVal lngFlag As Long) _
  As Boolean
  
' Returns True if a table is not flagged as deleted in MSysObjects.
' To be used in a query to extract currently attached tables.
'
' 2004-04-21. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.

  Const clngFlagDeleted As Long = &H1001
  
  Dim booDeleted        As Boolean
  
  booDeleted = lngFlag And clngFlagDeleted
  
  IsTablePresent = Not booDeleted

  End Function

Public Function GetTableType( _
  ByVal lngFlag As Long) _
  As Long
  
' Returns the table type from lngFlag in MSysObjects by rounding it to
' &H100000 which strips all minor flags including the hidden flag
(&H8)
' and all major flags - like &H20xxxxxx used by MS MSDE/SQL Server.
' To be used in a query to extract currently attached tables of a
specific type.
'
' 2004-04-21. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.

  ' Flag mask.
  ' Const clngFlagMajor As Long = &HFF000000
  ' Const clngFlagMinor As Long = &HFFFFF
  Const clngFlagMask  As Long = &HFF0FFFFF
  
  Dim lngType         As Long
  
  lngType = lngFlag And Not clngFlagMask
  
  GetTableType = lngType

End Function

</code>

Have fun!

/gustav

>>> accessd667 at yahoo.com 19-11-2004 14:57:55 >>>
Hi group,
 
I've got some code from the ADHB2K to search for linked tables.
However, it is also possible to link documents...office documents that
is. So I mean files with extions like:
.xls;
.txt;
etc
 
Q1: how can I search for these linked 'documents'?
Q2: how can I pinpoint the xls files from none xls files?
 
TIA
 
Sander



From artful at rogers.com  Sun Nov 21 10:45:00 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 11:45:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] x posted Get name for message box
In-Reply-To: <000a01c4cf87$c24b8400$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
References: <000a01c4cf87$c24b8400$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <41A0C60C.4050302@rogers.com>

I'd write a wrapper function rather than calling MsgBox directly. 
Something along the lines of ....

<code>
Function JH_MsgBox( strSubstitute, strTitle ) As Integer
Dim intResult as Integer
intResult = MsgBox( "You have chosen to delete employee " & 
strSubstitute, vbYesNo, strTitle )
JH_MsgBox = intResult
</Code>

How you get the list of related rows in other tables depends a LOT on 
how thorough you are in documenting your tables' relationships. Assuming 
that you are thorough, you can get the list of related tables with a 
query against MSysRelationships. Make this table visible (show system 
objects) and browse it, and the contents are self-explanatory. The 
general principle is that the One table precedes the Many table in the 
naming scheme. The PKs and FKs are named so you could easily construct a 
query to list the related tables.

Maybe this is going to result in a graceful routine, but I guess that in 
my advanced years I've grown lazy. I just declare Cascade-Delete OFF and 
let Access handle it. If and when the client complains, I just say, 
"Such a potentially disastrous action should NOT be easy." If you want 
to delete a salesperson and then all her sales orders and then all the 
sales details, then I'm going to make it difficult for you, so you will 
appreciate the consequences of your actions.

Arthur
Joe Hecht wrote:

>Thanks Steve,
>
>Gotta love these lists
>
>New problem: How do I get related records in other tables?
>
>JOE HECHT
>LOS ANGELES CA 
> jmhla at earthlink.net
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
>Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 8:28 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'ACCESS-L'
>Subject: [AccessD] x posted Get name for message box
>
>I have the following code for the on click event of a form. I want to
>replace " this employee " with the current employee name on the form.
>
> 
>
>How do I do that?
>
> 
>
>Private Sub cmdDelEmp_Click()
>
>    ' Comments  Confirm Employeee Deletion:
>
>    ' Parameters:  -
>
>    ' Modified  :
>
>    Dim lngRetval As Long
>
> 
>
>    lngRetval = MsgBox( _
>
>        "You have chosen to delete this employee!" & vbCrLf & "" & vbCrLf &
>"Do you wish to continue?", _
>
>        vbYesNoCancel + vbQuestion + vbSystemModal + vbDefaultButton1, _
>
>        "Confirm Emplyee Deletion")
>
> 
>
>    Select Case lngRetval
>
>        Case vbYes
>
>             DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 8, , acMenuVer70
>
>             DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 6, , acMenuVer70
>
>        
>
>        Case vbNo
>
>        Case vbCancel
>
>    End Select
>
>    '
>
>    ' -------------------------------------
>
>    
>
>  
>
>    
>
>Exit_cmdDelEmp_Click:
>
>    Exit Sub
>
>    
>
>Err_cmdDelEmp_Click:
>
>    MsgBox Err.Description
>
>    Resume Exit_cmdDelEmp_Click
>
>    
>
>End Sub
>
>JOE HECHT
>
>LOS ANGELES CA 
>
>jmhla at earthlink.net
>
> 
>
>  
>


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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sun Nov 21 10:46:13 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 10:46:13 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Accessing data in secured mdb from another secured mdb
	ona different workgroup
In-Reply-To: <4943882.1100985514124.JavaMail.root@sniper14.securence.com>
Message-ID: <000201c4cfe9$9d282540$de1811d8@danwaters>

Mark,

If 'JoeJ' on secured Database A has a PID of 1234, then JoeJ will be
able to (programmatically) open and run secured Database B from Database
A if there is a JoeJ with PID of 1234 set up for Database B.

At one point when I was setting up a few different databases, I made
sure that the same people had the same PID's.  I never did set up the
method to run one from the other though.

Best of Luck,
Dan Waters
ProMation Systems

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MarkH
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 12:06 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Accessing data in secured mdb from another secured
mdb ona different workgroup

Hello All

Using AXP on WinXP

I have two databases secured on different workgroups and accessed from
different front ends. I need to be able to import data from one into the
other but am having problems as they are secured on different mdw's. I
could merge the two mdw's but that would be a bit of a pain.

Anyone know a simple solution?

Thanks in advance

Mark

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From artful at rogers.com  Sun Nov 21 10:58:51 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 11:58:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] XPOSTED Where to put a query.
In-Reply-To: <000501c4cf86$b6bb9310$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
References: <000501c4cf86$b6bb9310$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <41A0C94B.1060201@rogers.com>

Assume tblEmployees has 1 row, tblTitles has 3 rows, and 
tblEmployeeTitles has one row:

EmpID 123
TitleID 1, 2, 3
EmpTitleID 1, EmpID 123, TitleID 1

You want to populate the combo for the associative table by "minus-ing" 
the titles already assigned. There are several ways to do this, and I 
don't profess to know which would best suit you or the size of your 
database tables....

SELECT TitleID, TitleName
FROM tblTitles
WHERE TitleID NOT IN( SELECT TitleID FROM tblEmpoyeeTitles WHERE EmpID = 
123 )

SELECT TitleID, TitleName
FROM tblTitles OUTER JOIN tblEmployeeTitles ON tblTitles.TitleID = 
tblEmployeeTitles.TitleID
WHERE tblEmployeeTitles.TitleID IS NULL

You might want to add an ORDER BY TitleName to each of these queries.

Arthur





Joe Hecht wrote:

>I am working on an inherited database.
>
> 
>
>The original database there was a 1->1 relationship between employees and
>job titles.
>
> 
>
>At the request of the client, I have made a 1->many relationship between
>employees and job titles.
>
> 
>
>This sql was the after update to the form:
>
> 
>
>INSERT INTO TrainDate ( EmpID, DocID )
>
>SELECT Employee.EmpID, JobDoc.DocID
>
>FROM Employee INNER JOIN JobDoc ON Employee.JobTitleID = JobDoc.JobTitleID
>
>WHERE (((Employee.EmpID)=[Forms]![Employees]![EmpID]) AND
>((Employee.JobTitleID)=[JobDoc].[JobTitleID]));
>
> 
>
>I need to know please:
>
>          1. Where do I put the sql statement to check each record on the
>subform.
>
>          2. How do I ensure it does not add duplicate records if a
>potentional situation
>
>                   a. existing employee is in the system
>
>                   b. if they are assigned a second or more job title 
>
> 
>
>Hope this is clear.
>
> 
>
>TIA
>
> 
>
>JOE HECHT
>
>LOS ANGELES CA 
>
>jmhla at earthlink.net
>
> 
>
>  
>


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Nov 21 13:58:57 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 14:58:57 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Norton av
In-Reply-To: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIMEGNCIAA.accessd@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <002901c4d004$894084d0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

The problem is that NAV gets it first, and it just refuses to NOT announce
to the world it has found a virus.  Its damned annoying since I'm getting
about a dozen a day.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

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Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 8:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Norton av


Hi John:

Just add the particular .de mail to your junk email list and aim it straight
to the Deleted Items folder.

HTH
Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 6:21 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Norton av


Does anyone know how to get nav to just quietly quarantine virus messages?
For some reason my new address got on a virus writer's list and I am getting
10 a day - all from .de email address.  I'd like to have nav just stop
telling me about the viruses and just quarantine them.

John W. Colby
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Nov 21 14:09:27 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 15:09:27 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Norton av
In-Reply-To: <002901c4d004$894084d0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <003201c4d006$00e44e80$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

This is too weird.  There must be two routes in to that area because when I
just pop up the NAV and click on email, silently quarantine is not an
option, but after poking around then going back there are about 3 more
options not available the first time, including silently quarantine.

John W. Colby
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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 2:59 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Norton av


The problem is that NAV gets it first, and it just refuses to NOT announce
to the world it has found a virus.  Its damned annoying since I'm getting
about a dozen a day.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
(AccessD)
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 8:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Norton av


Hi John:

Just add the particular .de mail to your junk email list and aim it straight
to the Deleted Items folder.

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 6:21 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Norton av


Does anyone know how to get nav to just quietly quarantine virus messages?
For some reason my new address got on a virus writer's list and I am getting
10 a day - all from .de email address.  I'd like to have nav just stop
telling me about the viruses and just quarantine them.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Sun Nov 21 14:23:35 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 20:23:35 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] How do I find out about .dlls
In-Reply-To: <000b01c4cf89$e0d57050$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <000001c4d007$fa96ecc0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Joe
Try MS's DLL Help Database at

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=%2fservicedesks%2ffileversion
%2fdefault.asp%3fvartarget%3dmsdn

-- Andy Lacey
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
> Sent: 21 November 2004 05:21
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] How do I find out about .dlls
> 
> 
> Specificly owc10.dll
> 
>  
> 
> JOE HECHT
> 
> LOS ANGELES CA 
> 
> jmhla at earthlink.net
> 
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Sun Nov 21 14:23:35 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 20:23:35 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?
In-Reply-To: <s19e3304.024@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <000201c4d007$fb07fe10$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Well I'll give the Refresh a try, but Gustav is quite correct that I said at
the outset that requerying the data is out of the question. And the update
has to show on-screen immediately as it is the user's visual guide to what
he has and hasn't done. What I've almost got the screen converted to is
using a UNION query just to populate a temp table of pk's in the form's
OnOpen, then basing the form on a query which links the temp table to all of
the required data. This query, although quite complex, fits the bill of
being updatable and immediately updating the underlying tables. So thanks
everyone for the feedback but the job's pretty well done now.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Gustav Brock
> Sent: 19 November 2004 16:53
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?
> 
> 
> Hi Andy 
>  
> OK, if that works, Andy would be fine. 
> I haven't tried myself, just noted that a requery was out of the
> qestion:
>  
> >By the way it's not practical to upodate the underlying tables and
> requery
> >to display the depatch info because there's a lot of data on screen
> and
> >requerying takes too long.
> 
> /gustav
> 
> >>> artful at rogers.com 19-11-2004 17:28:07 >>>
> 
> I wouldn't be quite that hasty, Gustav. You are of course correct that
> 
> UNIONs are read-only, but you can certainly grab the PK, pop up a form
> 
> that permits the update, and Refresh rather than Requery. 
> I've done this 
> particular thing several times and it works a treat.
> 
> Arthur
> 
> Gustav Brock wrote:
> 
> >Hi Andy
> > 
> >No, unions are read-only. If you can't go the update-behind-requery 
> >route, I guess you are left with the temp table.
> > 
> >/gustav
> >
> >  
> >
> >>>>andy at minstersystems.co.uk 18-11-2004 10:09:56 >>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >
> >Morning all
> >I've a continuous screen which needs to list two types of 
> order in date
> >sequence. These are held on separate tables. No problem, a UNION
> query
> >does
> >the job fine. However the user has to tick an order to say it's 
> >despatched, and then the screen needs to show that 
> information, but the 
> >recordset is not
> >updatable. Presumably this applies to all UNION queries does it? Does
> >anyone
> >have a way round this or do I have to go to extracting to a temp
> table
> >and
> >all that jazz?
> >
> >By the way it's not practical to upodate the underlying tables and 
> >requery to display the depatch info because there's a lot of data on 
> >screen and
> >requerying takes too long.
> >
> >--
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> >http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sun Nov 21 18:10:49 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 16:10:49 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] How do I find out about .dlls
In-Reply-To: <000001c4d007$fa96ecc0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>
Message-ID: <200411220012.iAM0CnL10818@databaseadvisors.com>

Thanks Andy,

Tells me everything but what I want to know.  What does OWC10.dll do?

Joe Hecht
jmhla at earthlink.net
28g
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 12:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] How do I find out about .dlls

Joe
Try MS's DLL Help Database at

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=%2fservicedesks%2ffileversion
%2fdefault.asp%3fvartarget%3dmsdn

-- Andy Lacey
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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
> Sent: 21 November 2004 05:21
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] How do I find out about .dlls
> 
> 
> Specificly owc10.dll
> 
>  
> 
> JOE HECHT
> 
> LOS ANGELES CA 
> 
> jmhla at earthlink.net
> 
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From pcs at azizaz.com  Sun Nov 21 19:13:04 2004
From: pcs at azizaz.com (Borge Hansen)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:13:04 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] How do I find out about .dlls
References: <200411220012.iAM0CnL10818@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <007501c4d030$6b6d0150$fa10a8c0@Albatross>

Joe,
Try google:

OCW10.dll definition
or
"Microsoft Office Web Components" library

Borge


----- Original Message ----- 
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To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 10:10 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] How do I find out about .dlls


> Thanks Andy,
>
> Tells me everything but what I want to know.  What does OWC10.dll do?
>
> Joe Hecht
> jmhla at earthlink.net
> 28g
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
> Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 12:24 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] How do I find out about .dlls
>
> Joe
> Try MS's DLL Help Database at
>
>
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=%2fservicedesks%2ffileversion
> %2fdefault.asp%3fvartarget%3dmsdn
>
> -- Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
> > Sent: 21 November 2004 05:21
> > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > Subject: [AccessD] How do I find out about .dlls
> >
> >
> > Specificly owc10.dll
> >
> >
> >
> > JOE HECHT
> >
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> >
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> >
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From hadyn at dataconcepts.co.nz  Sun Nov 21 19:15:31 2004
From: hadyn at dataconcepts.co.nz (Hadyn Morgan)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 14:15:31 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] How do I find out about .dlls
In-Reply-To: <200411220012.iAM0CnL10818@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <DCEDLLKBLHGDEGDGJBJIAEKHEFAA.hadyn@dataconcepts.co.nz>

It's part of Office Web Components for 2000.

Hadyn


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Monday, 22 November 2004 13:11
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] How do I find out about .dlls


Thanks Andy,

Tells me everything but what I want to know.  What does OWC10.dll do?

Joe Hecht
jmhla at earthlink.net
28g
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Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 12:24 PM
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-SNIP-


From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Mon Nov 22 05:28:04 2004
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:28:04 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Design Problem
Message-ID: <F37DAC9A2964B144A2973EBCA8C54DBD018583A4@BURY2K23.bury.gov.uk>

Hi Group

 

I am having a brain blockage - can anyone help. I will try to be as
brief as possible.

I can't figure out how to design this one.  Seems like different options
- not sure which way to go.

Here goes (may not be as complicated as it appears) - sorry its so long.

 

Scenario:

 

Client_1 (which can be an organisation or individual) can request a Job
(interpretation) 

The Job can be carried out on behalf of a second Client_2  or not.

The job may have a Patient/recipient (client_3??) of the job
(interpreation) or not.

 

Example 1

Charity OrgA (Client 1) requests an interpretation for a Medical Centre
(Dr Smith - Client 2) and 

Mrs Jones (client 3/Patient) is the person receiving teh interpretation.

 

Example 2

Charity OrgA (Client 1) requests an interpretation for a itself (Client
1) and the Recipient/Patient is itself(client_1) 

 

Example 3

Medical Centre (was previously Client 2) requests an interpretation for
a itself (Client 2) 

 

What I am confused is whether to have one Client Table (that accomodates
Orgs/Customers and Individuals/Patients)

Or have 3 separate tables Client_1 table, Client_2 (aka Customer) table
and a Patient/Person Table.

 

All 3 entities hold address/contact info (Client 1 table needs to store
invoice/finance data as well)

 

To give a job table like this

 

JobTable

========

JobID

ClientID_1--------->Client_1_table

ClientID_2--------->Client_1_table

ClientID_3--------->Client_1_table

Other fields

.....

 

or

 

JobID

ClientID_1--------->Client_1_table

ClientID_2--------->Client_2_table

ClientID_3--------->Client_3_table

Other fields

.....

 

The second option means that when Client_1 requests a job for itself the
address data etc is duplicated into the Client_2 and Client_3 tables 

- does this really matter?  Equally the Medical Centre (Client_2) may
next week be Client_1 (request a job/service itself)

 

Finally one more question is that I can't decide whether to do this as
well - even thought there is a one-to-one job_client relationship

(rather than store Client_1_ID, Client_2_ID, Client_3_ID in job table as
above) do this????

 

JobTable

========

JobID

Other fields

.....

 

JobClient_1_Table

=================

JobID

Client_1_ID

......

 

JobClient_2_Table

=================

JobID

Client_2_ID

......

 

JobClient_3_Table

=================

JobID

Client_3_ID

......

 

 

Any thoughts?

Many thanks

 

Richard

 

 



From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Mon Nov 22 05:31:02 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 03:31:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Search for linked documents....
In-Reply-To: <s1a07a47.039@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20041122113102.67318.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com>

Have fun....haha..ha...hmmm I think we've got different ideas about fun 
Thnx for the, once again, great response.
 
Sander

Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
Hi Sander

This is doable but not straight forward.

First, linked "documents" are treated as ISAM databases and tables. For
text and xBase and Paradox files, the directory is the "database" while
for Excel and Html the file is the database. Linked MAPI tables are even
more excotic so I will leave them for this. Linked ODBC tables are
complete different as they are identified by their connect strings.

Second, tables may be linked with other names than their true names.

This a query which will return all non-deleted links:

SELECT DISTINCT 
RTrim([Database]) AS DbsPath, 
MSysObjects.Connect, 
Hex(GetTableType([Flags])) AS TableType, 
MSysObjects.ForeignName, 
GetTrueForeignName(GetTableType([Flags]),[ForeignName]) AS
TrueForeignName, 
MSysObjects.Name AS LinkedName
FROM 
MSysObjects
WHERE 
(IsTablePresent([Flags])=True) 
AND 
(MSysObjects.Type=4 Or MSysObjects.Type=6);

It uses these supporting functions:



Declarations.

' Table types known.
'
' ODBC connection.
Private Const clngTableTypeNone As Long = &H0
' Note: MS MSDE/SQL Server has some higher bits set as well.
Private Const clngTableTypeOdbc As Long = &H100000
' Jet file attached by UNC name.
Private Const clngTableTypeJetUnc As Long = &H200000
' Jet file attached by mapped drive letter.
Private Const clngTableTypeJetDrive As Long = &H400000
Private Const clngTableTypeParadox As Long = &H700000
Private Const clngTableTypeDbase As Long = &H800000
Private Const clngTableTypeText As Long = &HA00000
Private Const clngTableTypeExcel As Long = &HB00000
Private Const clngTableTypeOutlook As Long = &HD00000
Private Const clngTableTypeHtml As Long = &HE00000

Public Function GetTrueForeignName( _
ByVal lngTableType As Long, _
ByVal strForeignName As String) _
As String

' Returns true foreign name for those ISAM table types
' where this is stored as an alias.
' Foreign names for other table types are not altered.
'
' Example Excel:
' Alias for worksheet: Sheet1$
' True name: Sheet1
' Example Paradox:
' Alias for table name: Pdoxfile#db
' True name: Pdoxfile.db
'
' 2004-05-10. Cactus Data ApS, CPH.

Const cstrSepDbase As String = "#"
Const cstrSepParadox As String = "#"
Const cstrSepText As String = "#"
Const cstrSepExcel As String = "$"
Const cstrRplExcel As String = vbNullString

Dim strTrueName As String
Dim lngPos As Long

Select Case lngTableType
Case clngTableTypeParadox
lngPos = InStr(strForeignName, cstrSepParadox)
If lngPos > 1 Then
strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, lngPos - 1)
Else
strTrueName = strForeignName
End If
Case clngTableTypeDbase
lngPos = InStr(strForeignName, cstrSepDbase)
If lngPos > 1 Then
strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, lngPos - 1)
Else
strTrueName = strForeignName
End If
Case clngTableTypeExcel
If Right(strForeignName, 1) = cstrSepExcel Then
' Worksheet. Strip traling "$".
strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, Len(strForeignName) - 1)
Else
' Named Range. Leave as is.
strTrueName = strForeignName
End If
Case clngTableTypeText
lngPos = InStr(strForeignName, cstrSepText)
If lngPos > 1 Then
strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, lngPos - 1)
Else
strTrueName = strForeignName
End If
Case Else
strTrueName = strForeignName
End Select

GetTrueForeignName = strTrueName

End Function

Public Function IsTablePresent( _
ByVal lngFlag As Long) _
As Boolean

' Returns True if a table is not flagged as deleted in MSysObjects.
' To be used in a query to extract currently attached tables.
'
' 2004-04-21. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.

Const clngFlagDeleted As Long = &H1001

Dim booDeleted As Boolean

booDeleted = lngFlag And clngFlagDeleted

IsTablePresent = Not booDeleted

End Function

Public Function GetTableType( _
ByVal lngFlag As Long) _
As Long

' Returns the table type from lngFlag in MSysObjects by rounding it to
' &H100000 which strips all minor flags including the hidden flag
(&H8)
' and all major flags - like &H20xxxxxx used by MS MSDE/SQL Server.
' To be used in a query to extract currently attached tables of a
specific type.
'
' 2004-04-21. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.

' Flag mask.
' Const clngFlagMajor As Long = &HFF000000
' Const clngFlagMinor As Long = &HFFFFF
Const clngFlagMask As Long = &HFF0FFFFF

Dim lngType As Long

lngType = lngFlag And Not clngFlagMask

GetTableType = lngType

End Function



Have fun!

/gustav

>>> accessd667 at yahoo.com 19-11-2004 14:57:55 >>>
Hi group,

I've got some code from the ADHB2K to search for linked tables.
However, it is also possible to link documents...office documents that
is. So I mean files with extions like:
.xls;
.txt;
etc

Q1: how can I search for these linked 'documents'?
Q2: how can I pinpoint the xls files from none xls files?

TIA

Sander

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From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Mon Nov 22 05:39:31 2004
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:39:31 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Design Problem
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C4A7@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>

Morning Richard!

My approach to this would be to put _all_ Client details into one table and
Job details into another separate table.

The Job table would contain fields for fldClient1, fldClient2, fldClient3,
etc.

HTH - Chris Foote (UK)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk]
> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 11:28 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Design Problem
> 
> 
> Hi Group
> 
>  
> 
> I am having a brain blockage - can anyone help. I will try to be as
> brief as possible.
> 
> I can't figure out how to design this one.  Seems like 
> different options
> - not sure which way to go.
> 
> Here goes (may not be as complicated as it appears) - sorry 
> its so long.
> 
--------(Snip)--------


From KP at sdsonline.net  Mon Nov 22 05:40:31 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:40:31 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Design Problem
References: <F37DAC9A2964B144A2973EBCA8C54DBD018583A4@BURY2K23.bury.gov.uk>
Message-ID: <001601c4d088$167e6b90$6401a8c0@user>

Richard - I think if it was me I would only have one client table, from what you have said, but with 3 separate fields there, eg.

'Job' table:
Job ID (autonumber)
RequestorID (related to Client ID in Client table)
PrincipalClientID (related to Client ID in Client table)
RecipientID (related to Client ID in Client table)

'Client' table
Client ID (autonumber)
Name details
Address details


The fields RequestorID, PrincipalClientID and RecipientID would all relate to one Client table.

That way all 'client' data would be stored in the one table and never duplicated, and you would have the flexibility of having any combination of the 3 fields in the Job table. The only mandatory field (it appears) would be the RequestorID.

HTH

Kath

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Griffiths, Richard 
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 10:28 PM
  Subject: [AccessD] Design Problem


  Hi Group

   

  I am having a brain blockage - can anyone help. I will try to be as
  brief as possible.

  I can't figure out how to design this one.  Seems like different options
  - not sure which way to go.

  Here goes (may not be as complicated as it appears) - sorry its so long.

   

  Scenario:

   

  Client_1 (which can be an organisation or individual) can request a Job
  (interpretation) 

  The Job can be carried out on behalf of a second Client_2  or not.

  The job may have a Patient/recipient (client_3??) of the job
  (interpreation) or not.

   

  Example 1

  Charity OrgA (Client 1) requests an interpretation for a Medical Centre
  (Dr Smith - Client 2) and 

  Mrs Jones (client 3/Patient) is the person receiving teh interpretation.

   

  Example 2

  Charity OrgA (Client 1) requests an interpretation for a itself (Client
  1) and the Recipient/Patient is itself(client_1) 

   

  Example 3

  Medical Centre (was previously Client 2) requests an interpretation for
  a itself (Client 2) 

   

  What I am confused is whether to have one Client Table (that accomodates
  Orgs/Customers and Individuals/Patients)

  Or have 3 separate tables Client_1 table, Client_2 (aka Customer) table
  and a Patient/Person Table.

   

  All 3 entities hold address/contact info (Client 1 table needs to store
  invoice/finance data as well)

   

  To give a job table like this

   

  JobTable

  ========

  JobID

  ClientID_1--------->Client_1_table

  ClientID_2--------->Client_1_table

  ClientID_3--------->Client_1_table

  Other fields

  .....

   

  or

   

  JobID

  ClientID_1--------->Client_1_table

  ClientID_2--------->Client_2_table

  ClientID_3--------->Client_3_table

  Other fields

  .....

   

  The second option means that when Client_1 requests a job for itself the
  address data etc is duplicated into the Client_2 and Client_3 tables 

  - does this really matter?  Equally the Medical Centre (Client_2) may
  next week be Client_1 (request a job/service itself)

   

  Finally one more question is that I can't decide whether to do this as
  well - even thought there is a one-to-one job_client relationship

  (rather than store Client_1_ID, Client_2_ID, Client_3_ID in job table as
  above) do this????

   

  JobTable

  ========

  JobID

  Other fields

  .....

   

  JobClient_1_Table

  =================

  JobID

  Client_1_ID

  ......

   

  JobClient_2_Table

  =================

  JobID

  Client_2_ID

  ......

   

  JobClient_3_Table

  =================

  JobID

  Client_3_ID

  ......

   

   

  Any thoughts?

  Many thanks

   

  Richard

   

   

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From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Mon Nov 22 05:49:48 2004
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:49:48 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Design Problem
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C4A8@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>

I agree with Kath

(who described my preferred solution much better than I did :-O)

Chris Foote

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kath Pelletti [mailto:KP at sdsonline.net]
> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 11:41 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Design Problem
> 
> 
> Richard - I think if it was me I would only have one client 
> table, from what you have said, but with 3 separate fields there, eg.
> 
> 'Job' table:
> Job ID (autonumber)
> RequestorID (related to Client ID in Client table)
> PrincipalClientID (related to Client ID in Client table)
> RecipientID (related to Client ID in Client table)
> 
> 'Client' table
> Client ID (autonumber)
> Name details
> Address details
> 
> 
> The fields RequestorID, PrincipalClientID and RecipientID 
> would all relate to one Client table.
> 
> That way all 'client' data would be stored in the one table 
> and never duplicated, and you would have the flexibility of 
> having any combination of the 3 fields in the Job table. The 
> only mandatory field (it appears) would be the RequestorID.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Kath


From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Mon Nov 22 06:49:13 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 07:49:13 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Norton av
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30A2BB49@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BBA20@ADGSERVER>

I saw that you found what you were looking for.  

I believe that it is the Sober virus you are getting.  It was targeted at
the Germans (.de).  I had 27 of them in quarantine this morning when I got
in.

Bobby

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Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 9:21 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Norton av


Does anyone know how to get nav to just quietly quarantine virus messages?
For some reason my new address got on a virus writer's list and I am getting
10 a day - all from .de email address.  I'd like to have nav just stop
telling me about the viruses and just quarantine them.

John W. Colby



From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Mon Nov 22 07:04:29 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 08:04:29 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74486B41@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

No not on the fly.  Every report is saved twice (once for English, another for Spanish).  This was all set up before I got here but I think the difference in the text sizes (lengths) between the languages was a major reason.

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 3:49 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
Something


Jim,

Are your reports partially translated on the fly?  If not it seems that
you would need to have your original text information recorded in two
separate places - one for each language?

If on the fly how is this done?

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:28 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
Something

We have two of everything here at this point.  Pick the language, print
the correct version report.

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:28 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
Something


Switch to VB.Net and XML?  (well, it IS Friday) :-}

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 7:44 AM
To: Database Advisors
Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something


I have a client who would like their system to be able to present
reports in different languages, based on a selection made on-screen by
the reader.  How would I get started making this happen?  

 

Thanks,

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems

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From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Mon Nov 22 07:16:04 2004
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:16:04 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Design Problem
Message-ID: <F37DAC9A2964B144A2973EBCA8C54DBD018583A7@BURY2K23.bury.gov.uk>


Thanks Kath, Chris for your reply - this was my original thinking but
then I had doubts. As the Recipients really may only have a name (and
maybe address) I wondered whether they should have their own table.  I
will simply have to add logic to my FE (and have fields such as
IsOrganisation, IsRecipient flags/fields on my Client table) so that
when adding new Requestor Clients it displays invoice, vat etc details -
but not for Recipient Clients.
Richard


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: 22 November 2004 11:41
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Design Problem

Richard - I think if it was me I would only have one client table, from
what you have said, but with 3 separate fields there, eg.

'Job' table:
Job ID (autonumber)
RequestorID (related to Client ID in Client table)
PrincipalClientID (related to Client ID in Client table)
RecipientID (related to Client ID in Client table)

'Client' table
Client ID (autonumber)
Name details
Address details


The fields RequestorID, PrincipalClientID and RecipientID would all
relate to one Client table.

That way all 'client' data would be stored in the one table and never
duplicated, and you would have the flexibility of having any combination
of the 3 fields in the Job table. The only mandatory field (it appears)
would be the RequestorID.

HTH

Kath

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Griffiths, Richard 
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 10:28 PM
  Subject: [AccessD] Design Problem


  Hi Group

   

  I am having a brain blockage - can anyone help. I will try to be as
  brief as possible.

  I can't figure out how to design this one.  Seems like different
options
  - not sure which way to go.

  Here goes (may not be as complicated as it appears) - sorry its so
long.

   

  Scenario:

   

  Client_1 (which can be an organisation or individual) can request a
Job
  (interpretation) 

  The Job can be carried out on behalf of a second Client_2  or not.

  The job may have a Patient/recipient (client_3??) of the job
  (interpreation) or not.

   

  Example 1

  Charity OrgA (Client 1) requests an interpretation for a Medical
Centre
  (Dr Smith - Client 2) and 

  Mrs Jones (client 3/Patient) is the person receiving teh
interpretation.

   

  Example 2

  Charity OrgA (Client 1) requests an interpretation for a itself
(Client
  1) and the Recipient/Patient is itself(client_1) 

   

  Example 3

  Medical Centre (was previously Client 2) requests an interpretation
for
  a itself (Client 2) 

   

  What I am confused is whether to have one Client Table (that
accomodates
  Orgs/Customers and Individuals/Patients)

  Or have 3 separate tables Client_1 table, Client_2 (aka Customer)
table
  and a Patient/Person Table.

   

  All 3 entities hold address/contact info (Client 1 table needs to
store
  invoice/finance data as well)

   

  To give a job table like this

   

  JobTable

  ========

  JobID

  ClientID_1--------->Client_1_table

  ClientID_2--------->Client_1_table

  ClientID_3--------->Client_1_table

  Other fields

  .....

   

  or

   

  JobID

  ClientID_1--------->Client_1_table

  ClientID_2--------->Client_2_table

  ClientID_3--------->Client_3_table

  Other fields

  .....

   

  The second option means that when Client_1 requests a job for itself
the
  address data etc is duplicated into the Client_2 and Client_3 tables 

  - does this really matter?  Equally the Medical Centre (Client_2) may
  next week be Client_1 (request a job/service itself)

   

  Finally one more question is that I can't decide whether to do this as
  well - even thought there is a one-to-one job_client relationship

  (rather than store Client_1_ID, Client_2_ID, Client_3_ID in job table
as
  above) do this????

   

  JobTable

  ========

  JobID

  Other fields

  .....

   

  JobClient_1_Table

  =================

  JobID

  Client_1_ID

  ......

   

  JobClient_2_Table

  =================

  JobID

  Client_2_ID

  ......

   

  JobClient_3_Table

  =================

  JobID

  Client_3_ID

  ......

   

   

  Any thoughts?

  Many thanks

   

  Richard

   

   

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From pcs at azizaz.com  Mon Nov 22 07:22:25 2004
From: pcs at azizaz.com (Borge Hansen)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 23:22:25 +1000
Subject: Fw: [AccessD] Triple State Check Box
Message-ID: <000c01c4d096$4efde370$fa10a8c0@Albatross>

Any one who wants to offer a comment?
Borge

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From: "Borge Hansen" <pcs at azizaz.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Triple State Check Box


> Hi,
> I've been playing around with the triple state property of a checkbox on a
> bound multirecord subform bound to a Yes/No field in the backend table.
>
> To make it work I finally had to bind the check box control to a field
with
> a different datatype.
> It's now bound to an integer field
> with default value of 'null'
> and validation rule set to: 'Between -1 And 0 Or Is Null' .
>
> Now it works.
>
> But : Is that the (only) way to do it, or have I overlooked something?
>
> Regards
> Borge



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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Nov 22 07:44:22 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 14:44:22 +0100
Subject: Fw: [AccessD] Triple State Check Box
Message-ID: <s1a1fb59.059@cactus.dk>

Hi B?rge

Seems OK to me.

You could have chosen Byte but then you would need to record Null, 0,
and 1.
1 is valid for not False in VB(A) and you can check for that with 

  <> False 

or 

  Not False

Validation rule could be: 0 Or -1 Or Is Null 
or, for Byte: 0 Or 1 Or Is Null

/gustav

>>> pcs at azizaz.com 22-11-2004 14:22:25 >>>
Any one who wants to offer a comment?
Borge

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From: "Borge Hansen" <pcs at azizaz.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Triple State Check Box


> Hi,
> I've been playing around with the triple state property of a checkbox
on a
> bound multirecord subform bound to a Yes/No field in the backend
table.
>
> To make it work I finally had to bind the check box control to a
field with
> a different datatype.
> It's now bound to an integer field
> with default value of 'null'
> and validation rule set to: 'Between -1 And 0 Or Is Null' .
>
> Now it works.
>
> But : Is that the (only) way to do it, or have I overlooked
something?
>
> Regards
> Borge



From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Nov 22 09:14:33 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 09:14:33 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something
In-Reply-To: <1619889.1101128794822.JavaMail.root@sniper18.securence.com>
Message-ID: <000801c4d0a5$f9224350$de1811d8@danwaters>

I did some internet research and found that there apparently isn't
anything that does 'perfect' translations - that is left to actual
people!  It did seem that there were some not inexpensive software
solutions that would have been able to do a pretty good job.

Translation on a PC is called Machine Translation.  Machine translation
can take a document and take a 'first cut' at doing a translation.  Then
someone who knows both languages can finish it off in less time.  I'm
going to recommend this approach to my client.

This first cut can be done from Word.  
	Open a Word document and highlight some text. 
	Select Tools | Language | Translate.
	A Translate pane will appear at the right.
	At the bottom see 'Translate via the Web'.
	Select the language translation you want.
	Push Go.
	A web site will open with the Machine translation of the text
		you highlighted.  

I tried to use the Look up in Dictionary feature, but that always came
back with No Suggestions.

Dan Waters
ProMation Systems

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 7:04 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
Something

No not on the fly.  Every report is saved twice (once for English,
another for Spanish).  This was all set up before I got here but I think
the difference in the text sizes (lengths) between the languages was a
major reason.

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 3:49 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
Something


Jim,

Are your reports partially translated on the fly?  If not it seems that
you would need to have your original text information recorded in two
separate places - one for each language?

If on the fly how is this done?

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:28 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
Something

We have two of everything here at this point.  Pick the language, print
the correct version report.

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:28 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
Something


Switch to VB.Net and XML?  (well, it IS Friday) :-}

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 7:44 AM
To: Database Advisors
Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something


I have a client who would like their system to be able to present
reports in different languages, based on a selection made on-screen by
the reader.  How would I get started making this happen?  

 

Thanks,

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems

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From GregSmith at starband.net  Mon Nov 22 09:33:23 2004
From: GregSmith at starband.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 09:33:23 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Macro Security in Runtime "issue"...
In-Reply-To: <000c01c4d096$4efde370$fa10a8c0@Albatross>
References: <000c01c4d096$4efde370$fa10a8c0@Albatross>
Message-ID: <1360.65.118.249.206.1101137603.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>

Hello everyone!

Is there a way to shut off the security messages you get in Access 2003 in
a runtime version of an application?  I have them shut off on my computer
and it works fine here, but when I have the customer install it on their
computer(s) (they don't have Access installed at all), they get the
messages on startup about unsafe expressions, etc.  They can't shut them
off on their computers because the application doesn't allow access to
those areas (restricted menus).

I was hoping to be able to do it internally (in vb), but that's probably
exactly what MS is trying to prevent with the security.  So far they've
succeeded and I've failed...and turning warnings on/off doesn't do it
either.

Of course, if they have Access installed, I'll tell them to just shut off
the macro security (set it to 'low')...which has it's inherent dangers,
but in most cases is ok.

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

TIA!

Greg Smith
gregsmith at starband.net




From sgeller at cce.umn.edu  Mon Nov 22 09:40:36 2004
From: sgeller at cce.umn.edu (Susan Geller)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 09:40:36 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Schedule a Query to run once a month
Message-ID: <DCE82B0926109E4B986BF32CFA78495C23F51B@MAIL1.cce.local>

I have an mdb file that has an update query.  I want this update query
to run once a month at a specific time. For example, the 28th day of the
month at 11:00 am.  Is there a way to set this up to run even if the mdb
file is not open?

--Susan

Susan B. Geller
Office of Information Systems
College of Continuing Education
University of Minnesota
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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Mon Nov 22 09:45:48 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 07:45:48 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Schedule a Query to run once a month
In-Reply-To: <DCE82B0926109E4B986BF32CFA78495C23F51B@MAIL1.cce.local>
Message-ID: <200411221547.iAMFlqL25040@databaseadvisors.com>

Based on other discussions in this group, you need to have some program or
operating system scheduled event to call the mdb.

Joe Hecht
jmhla at earthlink.net
28g
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Geller
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 7:41 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Schedule a Query to run once a month

I have an mdb file that has an update query.  I want this update query
to run once a month at a specific time. For example, the 28th day of the
month at 11:00 am.  Is there a way to set this up to run even if the mdb
file is not open?

--Susan

Susan B. Geller
Office of Information Systems
College of Continuing Education
University of Minnesota
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From GregSmith at starband.net  Mon Nov 22 09:55:39 2004
From: GregSmith at starband.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 09:55:39 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD] Schedule a Query to run once a month
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References: <DCE82B0926109E4B986BF32CFA78495C23F51B@MAIL1.cce.local>
Message-ID: <1432.65.118.249.206.1101138939.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>

Susan:

I have a set of queries run every night (or morning...) at 0410 when
nobody is in the database.  I actually have the queries in a separate
application linked to the data (back end).  Then using the scheduler in
windows, have it run the application where the queries are set up to run
in the autoexec macro of the 'different' application.  Then it makes no
difference if the main app is open or not, this one runs when you schedule
it to run.

HTH.

Greg Smith
gregsmith at starband.net


> I have an mdb file that has an update query.  I want this update query
> to run once a month at a specific time. For example, the 28th day of the
> month at 11:00 am.  Is there a way to set this up to run even if the mdb
> file is not open?
>
> --Susan
>
> Susan B. Geller
> Office of Information Systems
> College of Continuing Education
> University of Minnesota
> 306 Wesbrook Hall
> 77 Pleasant Street SE
> Minneapolis, MN 55455
> Phone:  612-626-4785
> Fax:  612-625-2568
>
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From JColby at dispec.com  Mon Nov 22 09:57:10 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:57:10 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Schedule a Query to run once a month
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF9A5@DISABILITYINS01>

You have to use Window's scheduler to open the database and execute the
query.  I would place the query out in a separate MDB, link in all and only
the tables required for the query, then write a little function to run the
query then shut down the db again.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


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From: Susan Geller [mailto:sgeller at cce.umn.edu]
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 10:41 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Schedule a Query to run once a month


I have an mdb file that has an update query.  I want this update query
to run once a month at a specific time. For example, the 28th day of the
month at 11:00 am.  Is there a way to set this up to run even if the mdb
file is not open?

--Susan

Susan B. Geller
Office of Information Systems
College of Continuing Education
University of Minnesota
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77 Pleasant Street SE
Minneapolis, MN 55455
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From liz at symphonyinfo.com  Mon Nov 22 09:57:26 2004
From: liz at symphonyinfo.com (Liz Doering)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 09:57:26 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Schedule a Query to run once a month
In-Reply-To: <DCE82B0926109E4B986BF32CFA78495C23F51B@MAIL1.cce.local>
Message-ID: <E1CWGZH-0000sn-00@pop-a065d05.pas.sa.earthlink.net>

Susan,

Use Windows Scheduler to open the .mdb with the update query.  Set up an
autoexec macro to run a function that checks the date and time, then runs
the query if the current date and time are when you want it to run.

It's been ages since we've heard from you!  Hope all is well.


Liz Doering
Symphony Information Services
liz at symphonyinfo.com
www.symphonyinfo.com
763-391-7400





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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Geller
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 9:41 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Schedule a Query to run once a month

I have an mdb file that has an update query.  I want this update query to
run once a month at a specific time. For example, the 28th day of the month
at 11:00 am.  Is there a way to set this up to run even if the mdb file is
not open?

--Susan

Susan B. Geller
Office of Information Systems
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Nov 22 10:43:51 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 08:43:51 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Change SubDatasheetName to [None] in code?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B8F@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Um ... Is it too late to point out that there is code in on-line help to
turn off the subdatasheet for a table.  It's easy enough to expand that
to the entire database.  I've done it a couple of slightly different
ways, but I only found the code in help after I had built virtually the
same code on my own.

Charlotte Foust


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From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com] 
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 9:44 AM
To: 'Database Advisors'
Subject: [AccessD] Change SubDatasheetName to [None] in code?


Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!

 

I want to write a utility sub to change the SubDatasheetName property in
tables to [None].  I'm trying to use the code below, but get an error of
'The object is closed or does not exist' at the code line beginning Set
prp =.  The table is open and in Design view.

 

    Dim obj As AccessObject

    Dim prp As DAO.Property

    Dim stgName As String

    

    For Each obj In CurrentData.AllTables

        stgName = obj.Name

        DoCmd.OpenTable stgName, acViewDesign, acEdit

        Set prp = obj.CreateProperty("SubDatasheetName", dbText,
"[None]")

        DoCmd.Close acTable, stgName, acSaveYes

    Next

 

Can this be done?

 

Thanks,

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems, Inc.

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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Mon Nov 22 10:44:23 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:44:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74486B4C@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Another issue we've run across with translation is dialect so you'd have to becareful with and programmed translation.  Which is another reason we've got two of everything, so we can determine and control dialect issues.

Jim D.

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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
Something


I did some internet research and found that there apparently isn't
anything that does 'perfect' translations - that is left to actual
people!  It did seem that there were some not inexpensive software
solutions that would have been able to do a pretty good job.

Translation on a PC is called Machine Translation.  Machine translation
can take a document and take a 'first cut' at doing a translation.  Then
someone who knows both languages can finish it off in less time.  I'm
going to recommend this approach to my client.

This first cut can be done from Word.  
	Open a Word document and highlight some text. 
	Select Tools | Language | Translate.
	A Translate pane will appear at the right.
	At the bottom see 'Translate via the Web'.
	Select the language translation you want.
	Push Go.
	A web site will open with the Machine translation of the text
		you highlighted.  

I tried to use the Look up in Dictionary feature, but that always came
back with No Suggestions.

Dan Waters
ProMation Systems

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 7:04 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
Something

No not on the fly.  Every report is saved twice (once for English,
another for Spanish).  This was all set up before I got here but I think
the difference in the text sizes (lengths) between the languages was a
major reason.

Jim DeMarco

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 3:49 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
Something


Jim,

Are your reports partially translated on the fly?  If not it seems that
you would need to have your original text information recorded in two
separate places - one for each language?

If on the fly how is this done?

Dan

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:28 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
Something

We have two of everything here at this point.  Pick the language, print
the correct version report.

Jim DeMarco

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:28 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
Something


Switch to VB.Net and XML?  (well, it IS Friday) :-}

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 7:44 AM
To: Database Advisors
Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something


I have a client who would like their system to be able to present
reports in different languages, based on a selection made on-screen by
the reader.  How would I get started making this happen?  

 

Thanks,

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Nov 22 10:44:35 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 08:44:35 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ActiveX Charting Control For Access?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B90@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Have you looked at ChartFX?

Charlotte Foust


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Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 5:45 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] ActiveX Charting Control For Access?


 Hi:

Does anyone have recommendations regarding charting/graphing software
for Access XP? I'm currently a bit annoyed with the built-in charting
capabilities for Access; it doesn't do the things I need (or at least I
can't discover how to do it).

Basically, I just need a flexible solution to create bar/line/pie
graphs. The component should have the following features:

1. Ability to set colors (EX: Everytime I graph maintenance code "05",
I'd like it to be RED) via code. (this is my main problem with Microsoft
Graph right now).

2. Flexible labeling capabilities.

3. Compatible with Access XP.

4. Good output options ... Most of the graphs/charts will be printed.

Thanks in advance for any help/advice.  

Larry Mrazek
LCM Research, Inc.
www.lcm-res.com
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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Mon Nov 22 10:45:07 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:45:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Macro Security in Runtime "issue"...
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74486B4D@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

I think Helen Feddema has something on this on her site.  It's got to do with signing the code.

HTH,

Jim DeMarco

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Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 10:33 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Macro Security in Runtime "issue"...


Hello everyone!

Is there a way to shut off the security messages you get in Access 2003 in
a runtime version of an application?  I have them shut off on my computer
and it works fine here, but when I have the customer install it on their
computer(s) (they don't have Access installed at all), they get the
messages on startup about unsafe expressions, etc.  They can't shut them
off on their computers because the application doesn't allow access to
those areas (restricted menus).

I was hoping to be able to do it internally (in vb), but that's probably
exactly what MS is trying to prevent with the security.  So far they've
succeeded and I've failed...and turning warnings on/off doesn't do it
either.

Of course, if they have Access installed, I'll tell them to just shut off
the macro security (set it to 'low')...which has it's inherent dangers,
but in most cases is ok.

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

TIA!

Greg Smith
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From kost36 at otenet.gr  Mon Nov 22 11:46:38 2004
From: kost36 at otenet.gr (Kostas Konstantinidis)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 19:46:38 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Some help please...
References: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKIEEBLGDAA.john@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <002601c4d0bb$388be310$0100a8c0@KOST36>

On a start form I use a list box witch on open responds like:
SELECT MT_basic_char.AM, [Last_name] & " " & [First_name] & " (" & 
[Father_name] & ", " & [year_born] & ")" AS patient
FROM MT_basic_char

I am trying to filter the patients names from a text box like:
Private Sub text_box_Change()
Me![list2].RowSource = "SELECT [Last_Name] FROM [MT_basic_char] WHERE 
[Last_Name] like '" & Me![text_box].Text & "*'"
End Sub

And continue with a double click to open tha main form filtered on:
Private Sub list2_DblClick(Cancel As Integer)
    Dim stDocName As String
    Dim stLinkCriteria As String
        stDocName = "MT_basic_char"
        stLinkCriteria = "[AM] = " & Me!list2.Value & ""
        DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria
End Sub

My question is: on text_box change how it could be possible to apear also 
all data: AM, Last_name, Father_name and year_born
in order to work the double click?

thank's a lot
/ kostas konstantinidis 




From JColby at dispec.com  Mon Nov 22 11:52:47 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:52:47 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF9A7@DISABILITYINS01>

Does anyone have code for linking to an excel spreadsheet?

If I manually create a link, the wizard finds all the fields, sets up with
the "first line has field names" etc.  Everything works fine.  However if
the table is not linked already, I need to create a tabledef, set the
SourceTableName and Connect properties.  If I then try to append the
tabledef to db.tabledefs I get an error that no fields are defined.  It is
obvious that a LOT more is involved here.  It appears that I have to open
the spreadsheet, get the first line, create fields with the data in the
first line, somehow figure out the datatype of each column etc.  Is there a
prebuilt code I can call to do all this stuff?  If the wizard can do it,
then the code behind the wizard could do it for me.

Has anyone ever done this?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy



From lists at theopg.com  Mon Nov 22 12:18:54 2004
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 18:18:54 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Accessing data in secured mdb from another secured
	mdbona different workgroup
In-Reply-To: <000201c4cfe9$9d282540$de1811d8@danwaters>
Message-ID: <000801c4d0bf$bab01790$920d6bd5@netboxxp>

Thanks Dan... I have discussed it with the client and it looks like as
an interim we will use ADO connections instead of linked tables :@) and
then in the long term we will be merging the two workgroups :@)))

Thanks again

Mark

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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Accessing data in secured mdb from another
secured mdbona different workgroup


Mark,

If 'JoeJ' on secured Database A has a PID of 1234, then JoeJ will be
able to (programmatically) open and run secured Database B from Database
A if there is a JoeJ with PID of 1234 set up for Database B.

At one point when I was setting up a few different databases, I made
sure that the same people had the same PID's.  I never did set up the
method to run one from the other though.

Best of Luck,
Dan Waters
ProMation Systems

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Subject: [AccessD] Accessing data in secured mdb from another secured
mdb ona different workgroup

Hello All

Using AXP on WinXP

I have two databases secured on different workgroups and accessed from
different front ends. I need to be able to import data from one into the
other but am having problems as they are secured on different mdw's. I
could merge the two mdw's but that would be a bit of a pain.

Anyone know a simple solution?

Thanks in advance

Mark

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Nov 22 12:21:28 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 19:21:28 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet
Message-ID: <s1a23c4c.064@cactus.dk>

Hi John

Are you looking at the xls file as a database? It doesn't seem to be
the case.
The database has tables - worksheets or Named Ranges - it is those that
are to be linked.

/gustav

>>> JColby at dispec.com 22-11-2004 18:52:47 >>>
Does anyone have code for linking to an excel spreadsheet?

If I manually create a link, the wizard finds all the fields, sets up
with
the "first line has field names" etc.  Everything works fine.  However
if
the table is not linked already, I need to create a tabledef, set the
SourceTableName and Connect properties.  If I then try to append the
tabledef to db.tabledefs I get an error that no fields are defined.  It
is
obvious that a LOT more is involved here.  It appears that I have to
open
the spreadsheet, get the first line, create fields with the data in
the
first line, somehow figure out the datatype of each column etc.  Is
there a
prebuilt code I can call to do all this stuff?  If the wizard can do
it,
then the code behind the wizard could do it for me.

Has anyone ever done this?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy

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From JColby at dispec.com  Mon Nov 22 12:23:39 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:23:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] #Num!
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF9A8@DISABILITYINS01>

Does anyone know how to convert #Num! in a linked spreadsheet to a null or
something useable in Access?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy



From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Mon Nov 22 12:32:39 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Steve Conklin (Developer@UltraDNT))
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:32:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet
In-Reply-To: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF9A7@DISABILITYINS01>
Message-ID: <000701c4d0c1$a579e070$0200a8c0@COA3>

How about:
DoCmd.TransferSpreadsheet acLink, acSpreadsheetTypeExcel9, "sheet1",
"c:\temp\receipts.xls", True, "a1:h100"

Hth
Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 12:53 PM
To: 'AccessD at DatabaseAdvisors.com'
Subject: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet


Does anyone have code for linking to an excel spreadsheet?

If I manually create a link, the wizard finds all the fields, sets up
with the "first line has field names" etc.  Everything works fine.
However if the table is not linked already, I need to create a tabledef,
set the SourceTableName and Connect properties.  If I then try to append
the tabledef to db.tabledefs I get an error that no fields are defined.
It is obvious that a LOT more is involved here.  It appears that I have
to open the spreadsheet, get the first line, create fields with the data
in the first line, somehow figure out the datatype of each column etc.
Is there a prebuilt code I can call to do all this stuff?  If the wizard
can do it, then the code behind the wizard could do it for me.

Has anyone ever done this?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy

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From JColby at dispec.com  Mon Nov 22 12:38:52 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:38:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF9A9@DISABILITYINS01>

Gustav,

You can link directly to a sheet in a .xls file, whereupon that sheet looks
like a table in Access.  The tdf is what is used to manipulate the linked
table, at least in terms of discovering the name of the sheet, the name of
the file it links to etc.

I receive spreadsheets from the client.  I link them in to the database,
then write queries to append all the data from the spreadsheet into a raw
data table.  However, the spreadsheet is created by hand so the sheet name
internal to the spreadsheet is not necessarily consistent from file to file.
I am attempting to get the name of the sheet but have had instances where
that failed.  I have also had instances where I deleted the sheet and simply
need to "relink" the spreadsheet from scratch.

It is this process to which I am referring.  Given a spreadsheet with a
single sheet inside, with the data in a format such that the first line has
field names, how do I "link" the spreadsheet to Access programmatically?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk]
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 1:21 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet


Hi John

Are you looking at the xls file as a database? It doesn't seem to be
the case.
The database has tables - worksheets or Named Ranges - it is those that
are to be linked.

/gustav

>>> JColby at dispec.com 22-11-2004 18:52:47 >>>
Does anyone have code for linking to an excel spreadsheet?

If I manually create a link, the wizard finds all the fields, sets up
with
the "first line has field names" etc.  Everything works fine.  However
if
the table is not linked already, I need to create a tabledef, set the
SourceTableName and Connect properties.  If I then try to append the
tabledef to db.tabledefs I get an error that no fields are defined.  It
is
obvious that a LOT more is involved here.  It appears that I have to
open
the spreadsheet, get the first line, create fields with the data in
the
first line, somehow figure out the datatype of each column etc.  Is
there a
prebuilt code I can call to do all this stuff?  If the wizard can do
it,
then the code behind the wizard could do it for me.

Has anyone ever done this?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Nov 22 13:06:29 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:06:29 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8679D26B@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Are you trying to do it with DAO or ADO, John?  I have some ADO code I
wrote way back when to drop and recreate a textlink and it handled XL as
an option.  I've attached it for whatever use it might be.  Don't be
critical, this was early in my use of ADO.

Charlotte Foust

<Code>
Public Function LinkExternalFileADO(ByVal strTextFileName As String, _
                              ByVal strLinkTable As String, _
                              ByVal strLinkSpecRange As String, _
                              Optional blnXL As Boolean) As Boolean
    'Created by Charlotte Foust
    'drops and relinks the temp table
    'and returns a boolean value for
    'the success of the operation
    'last modified 7/5/2001
    'Sample call:  LinkTextFileADO("MyTable.tab","MyTable","MyTable
Spec")
    '
LinkTextFileADO("MySheet.xls","MySheet","MyRange",True)
    
    On Error GoTo Proc_err
    Dim cat As ADOX.Catalog
    Dim cnn As ADODB.Connection
    Dim errsCnn As ADODB.Errors
    Dim errCurr As ADODB.Error
    
    'initialize the return value
    LinkExternalFileADO = True
    
    'initialize the object variables
    Set cnn = CurrentProject.Connection
    Set cat = New ADOX.Catalog
    cat.ActiveConnection = cnn
    Set errsCnn = cnn.Errors
    errsCnn.Clear
    
    'if the file exists, try to link it
    If strLinkTable <> "" Then
    
      'If no path was included, use the current path
      If InStr(strTextFileName, "\") = 0 Then
      
        strTextFileName = CurrentProject.Path & "\" & strTextFileName
      End If 'InStr(strTextFileName, "\") = 0
      
     'if the file exists then ...
      If Dir(strTextFileName) <> "" Then
        On Error Resume Next
        
        'delete the existing table link
        cat.Tables.Delete strLinkTable
        On Error GoTo Proc_err
        
        'link either a text file or an Excel spreadsheet
        If Not blnXL Then
        
          'create a new link to the text file
          DoCmd.TransferText acLinkDelim, strLinkSpecRange, _
            strLinkTable, strTextFileName
            
        Else 'If Not blnXL
        
          'create a new link to the Excel file
          DoCmd.TransferSpreadsheet acLink, acSpreadsheetTypeExcel9, _
                          strLinkTable, strTextFileName, True,
strLinkSpecRange
        End If 'Not blnXL
        
      Else 'If Dir(strTextFileName) <> ""
      
        'not a valid filename or path
        LinkExternalFileADO = False
      End If 'Dir(strTextFileName) <> ""
    End If
    
Proc_exit:
  'cleanup and exit
  On Error Resume Next
  Set cat = Nothing
  Set errsCnn = Nothing
  Set errCurr = Nothing
  Set cnn = Nothing
  Exit Function
Proc_err:
  If errsCnn.Count > 0 Then
    For Each errCurr In errsCnn
      MsgBox "Error #" & errCurr.Number & "--" & errCurr.Description _
            & vbCrLf & CurrentProject.Name & ".LinkTextFileADO"
    Next errCurr
    errsCnn.Clear
  End If
  If Err <> 0 Then
    MsgBox Err.Number & "--" & Err.Description & vbCr _
            & " in LinkTextFileADO", vbOKOnly
  End If
  LinkExternalFileADO = False
  Resume Proc_exit
End Function 'LinkExternalFileADO(ByVal strTextFileName As String, _
                              ByVal strLinkTable As String, _
                              ByVal strLinkSpecRange As String, _
                              Optional blnXL As Boolean) As Boolean
</Code>


-----Original Message-----
From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 9:53 AM
To: 'AccessD at DatabaseAdvisors.com'
Subject: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet


Does anyone have code for linking to an excel spreadsheet?

If I manually create a link, the wizard finds all the fields, sets up
with the "first line has field names" etc.  Everything works fine.
However if the table is not linked already, I need to create a tabledef,
set the SourceTableName and Connect properties.  If I then try to append
the tabledef to db.tabledefs I get an error that no fields are defined.
It is obvious that a LOT more is involved here.  It appears that I have
to open the spreadsheet, get the first line, create fields with the data
in the first line, somehow figure out the datatype of each column etc.
Is there a prebuilt code I can call to do all this stuff?  If the wizard
can do it, then the code behind the wizard could do it for me.

Has anyone ever done this?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy

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From kost36 at otenet.gr  Mon Nov 22 13:22:33 2004
From: kost36 at otenet.gr (Kostas Konstantinidis)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 21:22:33 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Some help please...
References: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKIEEBLGDAA.john@winhaven.net>
	<002601c4d0bb$388be310$0100a8c0@KOST36>
Message-ID: <00a201c4d0c8$ab4d1a10$0100a8c0@KOST36>

Guys,
I have just found the solution...
The problem fixed

Thank's

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kostas Konstantinidis" <kost36 at otenet.gr>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 7:46 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Some help please...


> On a start form I use a list box witch on open responds like:
> SELECT MT_basic_char.AM, [Last_name] & " " & [First_name] & " (" & 
> [Father_name] & ", " & [year_born] & ")" AS patient
> FROM MT_basic_char
>
> I am trying to filter the patients names from a text box like:
> Private Sub text_box_Change()
> Me![list2].RowSource = "SELECT [Last_Name] FROM [MT_basic_char] WHERE 
> [Last_Name] like '" & Me![text_box].Text & "*'"
> End Sub
>
> And continue with a double click to open tha main form filtered on:
> Private Sub list2_DblClick(Cancel As Integer)
>    Dim stDocName As String
>    Dim stLinkCriteria As String
>        stDocName = "MT_basic_char"
>        stLinkCriteria = "[AM] = " & Me!list2.Value & ""
>        DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria
> End Sub
>
> My question is: on text_box change how it could be possible to apear also 
> all data: AM, Last_name, Father_name and year_born
> in order to work the double click?
>
> thank's a lot
> / kostas konstantinidis
>
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Mon Nov 22 15:35:52 2004
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 21:35:52 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Some help please...
In-Reply-To: <002601c4d0bb$388be310$0100a8c0@KOST36>
Message-ID: <BAY101-F13FE8085960102FE580D6BD2C60@phx.gbl>

Kostas,

If I understand correctly...you want to display other information besides 
the name for the user to make their choice from.  If you are using a combo 
box, you could include a PK in the select statement, indicate this as the 
'bound column' on the properties of the combo box, hide this field with the 
'column widths' property, and then use this field to filter the main form.

Hope this helps.

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

>From: "Kostas Konstantinidis" <kost36 at otenet.gr>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: [AccessD] Some help please...
>Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 19:46:38 +0200
>
>On a start form I use a list box witch on open responds like:
>SELECT MT_basic_char.AM, [Last_name] & " " & [First_name] & " (" & 
>[Father_name] & ", " & [year_born] & ")" AS patient
>FROM MT_basic_char
>
>I am trying to filter the patients names from a text box like:
>Private Sub text_box_Change()
>Me![list2].RowSource = "SELECT [Last_Name] FROM [MT_basic_char] WHERE 
>[Last_Name] like '" & Me![text_box].Text & "*'"
>End Sub
>
>And continue with a double click to open tha main form filtered on:
>Private Sub list2_DblClick(Cancel As Integer)
>    Dim stDocName As String
>    Dim stLinkCriteria As String
>        stDocName = "MT_basic_char"
>        stLinkCriteria = "[AM] = " & Me!list2.Value & ""
>        DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria
>End Sub
>
>My question is: on text_box change how it could be possible to apear also 
>all data: AM, Last_name, Father_name and year_born
>in order to work the double click?
>
>thank's a lot
>/ kostas konstantinidis
>
>
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Nov 22 15:39:48 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:39:48 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Macro Security in Runtime "issue"...
References: <000c01c4d096$4efde370$fa10a8c0@Albatross>
	<1360.65.118.249.206.1101137603.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
Message-ID: <41A25CA4.806@shaw.ca>


Get their network guy to change the following registry settings of the
following key, should help you change the security level of the macro in 
Access 2003. He should be able to change this globally across the 
network for each client PC, there is even a way to do this from Access 
VBA code using WMI with proper network permissions.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Access\Security\Level

If the value is 1, then the macro security of Access 2003 is set to low.
If the value is 2, then the macro security of Access 2003 is set to medium.
If the value is 3, then the macro security of Access 2003 is set to high.

WARNING: If you use Registry Editor incorrectly, you may cause serious 
problems that may require you to reinstall your operating system. 
Microsoft cannot guarantee that you can solve problems that result from 
using Registry Editor incorrectly. Use Registry Editor at your own risk.
--------------
or you could try this subroutine to execute on the runtime startup as 
toolbar menus are disabled by runtime methods

maybe after checking this is set. I forget the order of execution.
 Access.Application.AutomationSecurity = 1 ' msoAutomationSecurityLow

  This sub activates the Macro -> Security submenu to open
' the Macro Security dialog window for the user who is using
' the runtime version of Access '03 instead of the retail version,
' which may need to have the default security level changed in
' order to run the code in the modules.
'This sub requires the Microsoft Office 11.0 Library reference

http://www.access.qbuilt.com/html/vba.html#SetMacroSecLvl
-----------------
or
Sagekey has an Access 2003 MSI install script that avoids this but is $425.
----------------
or build your own security certicate but then you still have to install 
in users certificate pool

There are some easier ways but not if it is a runtime

Greg Smith wrote:

>Hello everyone!
>
>Is there a way to shut off the security messages you get in Access 2003 in
>a runtime version of an application?  I have them shut off on my computer
>and it works fine here, but when I have the customer install it on their
>computer(s) (they don't have Access installed at all), they get the
>messages on startup about unsafe expressions, etc.  They can't shut them
>off on their computers because the application doesn't allow access to
>those areas (restricted menus).
>
>I was hoping to be able to do it internally (in vb), but that's probably
>exactly what MS is trying to prevent with the security.  So far they've
>succeeded and I've failed...and turning warnings on/off doesn't do it
>either.
>
>Of course, if they have Access installed, I'll tell them to just shut off
>the macro security (set it to 'low')...which has it's inherent dangers,
>but in most cases is ok.
>
>Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
>TIA!
>
>Greg Smith
>gregsmith at starband.net
>
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Nov 22 16:57:24 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:57:24 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Change SubDatasheetName to [None] in code?
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B8F@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <200411222257.iAMMvUx6021431@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Howdy
Create a Button on a form and call the button Command0 - form name is not
important

Copy everything below the line and paste it into the code behind the form

Make sure you have a DAO reference

Hope this helps

Darren

____________________________________________________________________
Private Sub Command0_Click()
	TurnOffSubDataSheets
End Sub 

Function TurnOffSubDataSheets()
  Dim MyDB As DAO.Database
  Dim MyProperty As DAO.Property
  
  Dim propName As String
  Dim PropType As Integer
  Dim propVal As String
  
  Dim strS As String
  
  Set MyDB = CurrentDb
  
  propName = "SubDataSheetName"
  PropType = 10
  propVal = "[NONE]"
  
  On Error Resume Next
  
  For i = 0 To MyDB.TableDefs.Count - 1
      
      If (MyDB.TableDefs(i).Attributes And dbSystemObject) = 0 Then

          If MyDB.TableDefs(i).Properties(propName).Value <> propVal Then
             MyDB.TableDefs(i).Properties(propName).Value = propVal
             intChangedTables = intChangedTables + 1
          End If
 
          If Err.Number = 3270 Then
             Set MyProperty = MyDB.TableDefs(i).CreateProperty(propName)
             MyProperty.Type = PropType
             MyProperty.Value = propVal
             MyDB.TableDefs(i).Properties.Append MyProperty
          Else
             If Err.Number <> 0 Then
                 MsgBox "Error: " & Err.Number & " on Table " _
                 & MyDB.TableDefs(i).Name & "."
                 MyDB.Close
                 Exit Function
             End If
          End If
          
      End If
  Next i

MsgBox "The " & propName & _
" value for all non-system tables has been updated to " & propVal & "."

MyDB.Close

End Function



From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Nov 22 16:57:24 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:57:24 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Design Problem
In-Reply-To: <F37DAC9A2964B144A2973EBCA8C54DBD018583A7@BURY2K23.bury.gov.uk>
Message-ID: <200411222257.iAMMvUx7021431@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Richard
Just had the same design Q myself last week
The consensus was to merge My Client and Organisation tables into 1 table
and have an Identifier similar to IsClientOrOrg (Client = 1 Org = 2)
Saved me a whole bunch of issues and I have moved on from that 'difficult'
problem

Hope this helps

See ya

DD

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Griffiths,
Richard
Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2004 12:16 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Design Problem


Thanks Kath, Chris for your reply - this was my original thinking but then I
had doubts. As the Recipients really may only have a name (and maybe
address) I wondered whether they should have their own table.  I will simply
have to add logic to my FE (and have fields such as IsOrganisation,
IsRecipient flags/fields on my Client table) so that when adding new
Requestor Clients it displays invoice, vat etc details - but not for
Recipient Clients.
Richard


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: 22 November 2004 11:41
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Design Problem

Richard - I think if it was me I would only have one client table, from what
you have said, but with 3 separate fields there, eg.

'Job' table:
Job ID (autonumber)
RequestorID (related to Client ID in Client table) PrincipalClientID
(related to Client ID in Client table) RecipientID (related to Client ID in
Client table)

'Client' table
Client ID (autonumber)
Name details
Address details


The fields RequestorID, PrincipalClientID and RecipientID would all relate
to one Client table.

That way all 'client' data would be stored in the one table and never
duplicated, and you would have the flexibility of having any combination of
the 3 fields in the Job table. The only mandatory field (it appears) would
be the RequestorID.

HTH

Kath

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Griffiths, Richard
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
  Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 10:28 PM
  Subject: [AccessD] Design Problem


  Hi Group

   

  I am having a brain blockage - can anyone help. I will try to be as
  brief as possible.

  I can't figure out how to design this one.  Seems like different options
  - not sure which way to go.

  Here goes (may not be as complicated as it appears) - sorry its so long.

   

  Scenario:

   

  Client_1 (which can be an organisation or individual) can request a Job
  (interpretation) 

  The Job can be carried out on behalf of a second Client_2  or not.

  The job may have a Patient/recipient (client_3??) of the job
  (interpreation) or not.

   

  Example 1

  Charity OrgA (Client 1) requests an interpretation for a Medical Centre
  (Dr Smith - Client 2) and 

  Mrs Jones (client 3/Patient) is the person receiving teh interpretation.

   

  Example 2

  Charity OrgA (Client 1) requests an interpretation for a itself (Client
  1) and the Recipient/Patient is itself(client_1) 

   

  Example 3

  Medical Centre (was previously Client 2) requests an interpretation for
  a itself (Client 2) 

   

  What I am confused is whether to have one Client Table (that accomodates
  Orgs/Customers and Individuals/Patients)

  Or have 3 separate tables Client_1 table, Client_2 (aka Customer) table
  and a Patient/Person Table.

   

  All 3 entities hold address/contact info (Client 1 table needs to store
  invoice/finance data as well)

   

  To give a job table like this

   

  JobTable

  ========

  JobID

  ClientID_1--------->Client_1_table

  ClientID_2--------->Client_1_table

  ClientID_3--------->Client_1_table

  Other fields

  .....

   

  or

   

  JobID

  ClientID_1--------->Client_1_table

  ClientID_2--------->Client_2_table

  ClientID_3--------->Client_3_table

  Other fields

  .....

   

  The second option means that when Client_1 requests a job for itself the
  address data etc is duplicated into the Client_2 and Client_3 tables 

  - does this really matter?  Equally the Medical Centre (Client_2) may
  next week be Client_1 (request a job/service itself)

   

  Finally one more question is that I can't decide whether to do this as
  well - even thought there is a one-to-one job_client relationship

  (rather than store Client_1_ID, Client_2_ID, Client_3_ID in job table as
  above) do this????

   

  JobTable

  ========

  JobID

  Other fields

  .....

   

  JobClient_1_Table

  =================

  JobID

  Client_1_ID

  ......

   

  JobClient_2_Table

  =================

  JobID

  Client_2_ID

  ......

   

  JobClient_3_Table

  =================

  JobID

  Client_3_ID

  ......

   

   

  Any thoughts?

  Many thanks

   

  Richard

   

   

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From lmrazek at lcm-res.com  Mon Nov 22 17:13:28 2004
From: lmrazek at lcm-res.com (Lawrence Mrazek)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 17:13:28 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] ActiveX Charting Control For Access?
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B90@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <200411221813467.SM01820@hplaptop>

Hi Charlotte:

I'm currently evaluating components from ChartFX, ComponentOne and Nevron.
Microsoft Graph provides about 80% of the functionality I need; I'm done
trying to make it work. 

Thanks for the advice. 

Larry Mrazek
LCM Research, Inc.
www.lcm-res.com
lmrazek at lcm-res.com
ph. 314-432-5886
fx. 314-432-3304

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 10:45 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] ActiveX Charting Control For Access?

Have you looked at ChartFX?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Lawrence Mrazek [mailto:lmrazek at lcm-res.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 5:45 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] ActiveX Charting Control For Access?


 Hi:

Does anyone have recommendations regarding charting/graphing software
for Access XP? I'm currently a bit annoyed with the built-in charting
capabilities for Access; it doesn't do the things I need (or at least I
can't discover how to do it).

Basically, I just need a flexible solution to create bar/line/pie
graphs. The component should have the following features:

1. Ability to set colors (EX: Everytime I graph maintenance code "05",
I'd like it to be RED) via code. (this is my main problem with Microsoft
Graph right now).

2. Flexible labeling capabilities.

3. Compatible with Access XP.

4. Good output options ... Most of the graphs/charts will be printed.

Thanks in advance for any help/advice.  

Larry Mrazek
LCM Research, Inc.
www.lcm-res.com
lmrazek at lcm-res.com
ph. 314-432-5886
fx. 314-432-3304


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From artful at rogers.com  Mon Nov 22 17:18:16 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 18:18:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something
In-Reply-To: <000801c4d0a5$f9224350$de1811d8@danwaters>
References: <000801c4d0a5$f9224350$de1811d8@danwaters>
Message-ID: <41A273B8.7010207@rogers.com>

1. There are a pair of classic sentences that are used frequently to 
derail machine translators:
a) Bill sent me a bill which I forwarded to Bill.
b) Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.
(This one I capitalized to help you through it, although it still takes 
some work. To save you the trouble.... there is an English verb, to 
buffalo. It means to baffle, or perhaps to bullshit. As in, when the 
client asked question X, I buffaloed her. A particular variation on said 
action is known as the Buffalo buffalo. This is a version particular to 
the city -- as opposed to say the New Orleans buffalo. So, certain 
buffalo who happen to reside in Buffalo do the Buffalo buffalo to other 
buffalo who also happen to reside in Buffalo.)

There are many other variants on this problem, and to give my source 
credit they can be found in Steve Pinker's classic book "The Language 
Instinct". (For those unfamiliar with it and who also happen to wonder 
what the hell Noam Chomsky was on about, said book contains the most 
concise explication of Noam's basic theory that I have ever read.) Here 
are a few more nuggets for your translation-machine:

Deer Kill 180,000
Queen Mary Having Bottom Scraped

And of course, the old saw, from Marx (Groucho not Karl), "Time flies 
like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."

An even more remarkable one, also courtesty Mr. Pinker.... here are 2 
sentences, each spoken by a different person (presumably married to each 
other):

a. I'm leaving you.
b. Who is he?

This one is my favourite. The other ambiguities are resoluble by parsing 
the sentence in question carefully. But this latter is remarkable in that:
a) none of the words assembled convey a larger meaning (as is the case, 
for example, in "The New York Yankees").
b) all of the words assembled convey no inherent meaning (you have to 
assume a HUGE amount of cultural baggage in order to interpret this 
conversation; further, you have to assume certain mores, certain 
cultural perspectives, certain sexual preferences and so on, in order to 
make any sense of this snippet of conversation -- i.e. regardless of the 
gender of A, we can deduce that A is only interested in males, but that 
may be a faulty deduction; A could be bisexual and B unaware of this; it 
is also possible that A is leaving B not for someone else but simply 
because living with B is intolerable; and so on). IOW, virtually NONE of 
the meat in this conversation is contained either in the individual 
words or in their assemblage; ALL of the meaning is contained in the 
minds (and by extension the cultures) of the speakers.

I have a lot of European friends, and almost all of them have commented 
at one time or another on the elasticity of English. Consider the word 
"fuck". It can be used in so many ways that it boggles the minds of 
newcomers to the English language. I fucked a lovely woman last night. I 
fucked a business competitor this morning. I tried to repair my 
motorcycle but fucked it up. Fuck you! Fuck that! Fuck you and the horse 
you rode in on. Fuck me. And so on.

There's a common (and I might add falacious) maxim that the Inuit have 
28 words for snow. This is true only in the sense that we have 100 words 
for cigarette or automobile (Honda Prelude, Dodge Caravan, etc.) The 
example cited above is the opposite phenomenon, as exemplified by 
another old riddle: Why is making love in a canoe like drinking 
Budweiser? Because it's fucking close to water.

Insofar as writing remains utterly ambiguous (a pretty tough 
proposition, but let's let that pass), then translation-engines have a 
slim chance of accuracy. To the extent that language is a joy, a thing 
to be savoured, played with, caressed, teased and fondled, then 
machine-translation has virtually no chance of success. If we go no 
further than translating "File | Open..." then we may be safe; ditto for 
various error messages.... but even there, I have to point out that once 
I taught a course, one of whose students was confined to a wheelchair, 
and when a message came up saying something like "Invalid parameter", 
she said, "I'm an invalid." Which in turn led me to consider what a 
horrid word that was to describe people in her condition. Such persons 
are not invalid; they are just as valid as you and me.

Yet another example. A close friend and colleague of mine, from Britain, 
gave me a copy of his new software to test. A couple of days later he 
asked me what I thought of it. I replied, "Not bad!". In Canada this is 
a compliment. In Britain this means that I couldn't find anything truly 
despicable to say about it, but was overall underwhelmed. His look of 
shock make me realize a cultural gap here of serious proportions.

Chevrolet at one point release an automobile called "Nova". In Spanish 
this means "Does not go." (Neuve is the word for New.)

All of which goes to say, do not trust translation-machines. If you need 
to translate, find a human.

One final example, taken from the annals of machine-translation 
literature. They had an English to Russian translator and its opposite. 
They fed in an English sentence, translated it to Russian, and then 
translated it back.

a) The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak.
b) The vodka is good but the meat is rotten.

Arthur

Dan Waters wrote:

>I did some internet research and found that there apparently isn't
>anything that does 'perfect' translations - that is left to actual
>people!  It did seem that there were some not inexpensive software
>solutions that would have been able to do a pretty good job.
>
>Translation on a PC is called Machine Translation.  Machine translation
>can take a document and take a 'first cut' at doing a translation.  Then
>someone who knows both languages can finish it off in less time.  I'm
>going to recommend this approach to my client.
>
>This first cut can be done from Word.  
>	Open a Word document and highlight some text. 
>	Select Tools | Language | Translate.
>	A Translate pane will appear at the right.
>	At the bottom see 'Translate via the Web'.
>	Select the language translation you want.
>	Push Go.
>	A web site will open with the Machine translation of the text
>		you highlighted.  
>
>I tried to use the Look up in Dictionary feature, but that always came
>back with No Suggestions.
>
>Dan Waters
>ProMation Systems
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 7:04 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
>Something
>
>No not on the fly.  Every report is saved twice (once for English,
>another for Spanish).  This was all set up before I got here but I think
>the difference in the text sizes (lengths) between the languages was a
>major reason.
>
>Jim DeMarco
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters
>Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 3:49 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
>Something
>
>
>Jim,
>
>Are your reports partially translated on the fly?  If not it seems that
>you would need to have your original text information recorded in two
>separate places - one for each language?
>
>If on the fly how is this done?
>
>Dan
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:28 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
>Something
>
>We have two of everything here at this point.  Pick the language, print
>the correct version report.
>
>Jim DeMarco
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
>Foust
>Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:28 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
>Something
>
>
>Switch to VB.Net and XML?  (well, it IS Friday) :-}
>
>Charlotte Foust
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com] 
>Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 7:44 AM
>To: Database Advisors
>Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something
>
>
>I have a client who would like their system to be able to present
>reports in different languages, based on a selection made on-screen by
>the reader.  How would I get started making this happen?  
>
> 
>
>Thanks,
>
>Dan Waters
>
>ProMation Systems
>
>  
>


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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Nov 22 17:33:54 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 17:33:54 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] ActiveX Charting Control For Access?
In-Reply-To: <28941432.1101165439819.JavaMail.root@sniper17.securence.com>
Message-ID: <001001c4d0eb$bb2802b0$de1811d8@danwaters>

Larry,

Office Web Components might work for you.  It's not an ActiveX component
- you set references to a couple of dll's.  I'm pretty certain that you
can set colors for series.  

HTH,
Dan Waters
ProMation Systems

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lawrence
Mrazek
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 5:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] ActiveX Charting Control For Access?

Hi Charlotte:

I'm currently evaluating components from ChartFX, ComponentOne and
Nevron.
Microsoft Graph provides about 80% of the functionality I need; I'm done
trying to make it work. 

Thanks for the advice. 

Larry Mrazek
LCM Research, Inc.
www.lcm-res.com
lmrazek at lcm-res.com
ph. 314-432-5886
fx. 314-432-3304

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 10:45 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] ActiveX Charting Control For Access?

Have you looked at ChartFX?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Lawrence Mrazek [mailto:lmrazek at lcm-res.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 5:45 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] ActiveX Charting Control For Access?


 Hi:

Does anyone have recommendations regarding charting/graphing software
for Access XP? I'm currently a bit annoyed with the built-in charting
capabilities for Access; it doesn't do the things I need (or at least I
can't discover how to do it).

Basically, I just need a flexible solution to create bar/line/pie
graphs. The component should have the following features:

1. Ability to set colors (EX: Everytime I graph maintenance code "05",
I'd like it to be RED) via code. (this is my main problem with Microsoft
Graph right now).

2. Flexible labeling capabilities.

3. Compatible with Access XP.

4. Good output options ... Most of the graphs/charts will be printed.

Thanks in advance for any help/advice.  

Larry Mrazek
LCM Research, Inc.
www.lcm-res.com
lmrazek at lcm-res.com
ph. 314-432-5886
fx. 314-432-3304


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From artful at rogers.com  Mon Nov 22 20:09:29 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 21:09:29 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Schedule a Query to run once a month
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Message-ID: <41A29BD9.5040304@rogers.com>

I could be wrong, since I have never done this, but I'll take a WAG. 
Create a shortcut to the specific query, then schedule its execution 
using the Scheduler.

Arthur

Joe Hecht wrote:

>Based on other discussions in this group, you need to have some program or
>operating system scheduled event to call the mdb.
>
>Joe Hecht
>jmhla at earthlink.net
>28g
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Geller
>Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 7:41 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Schedule a Query to run once a month
>
>I have an mdb file that has an update query.  I want this update query
>to run once a month at a specific time. For example, the 28th day of the
>month at 11:00 am.  Is there a way to set this up to run even if the mdb
>file is not open?
>
>--Susan
>
>Susan B. Geller
>Office of Information Systems
>College of Continuing Education
>University of Minnesota
>306 Wesbrook Hall
>77 Pleasant Street SE
>Minneapolis, MN 55455
>Phone:  612-626-4785
>Fax:  612-625-2568
>
>
>  
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From mcaro at bigpond.net.au  Mon Nov 22 20:45:58 2004
From: mcaro at bigpond.net.au (Martin Caro)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 13:45:58 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] UNDO -  Subform from Parent
Message-ID: <004f01c4d106$901d1310$0100000a@MITSERVER>

Ho folks

Can anyone help me with the syntax to run an Undo on a subform from a button located in the parent form...... 
(how to run an Undo from a sub on its parent has been asked before... Darren Dick 03/06/2004) but I need it around the other way so it should be possible.

Thanks

Martin


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Nov 22 21:26:56 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:26:56 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] UNDO -  Subform from Parent
In-Reply-To: <004f01c4d106$901d1310$0100000a@MITSERVER>
Message-ID: <002f01c4d10c$4d01e8c0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Martin,

One issue you will run into is that a record is saved when focus leaves the
form.  Thus if a user is entering records in the subform and leaves the
subform to click an undo on the parent, the changes in the child are saved
and undo can no longer be used.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Caro
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 9:46 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] UNDO - Subform from Parent


Ho folks

Can anyone help me with the syntax to run an Undo on a subform from a button
located in the parent form...... 
(how to run an Undo from a sub on its parent has been asked before... Darren
Dick 03/06/2004) but I need it around the other way so it should be
possible.

Thanks

Martin
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Nov 22 21:30:10 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 21:30:10 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] UNDO -  Subform from Parent
In-Reply-To: <3269189.1101178071452.JavaMail.root@sniper13.securence.com>
Message-ID: <000201c4d10c$bcfce6c0$de1811d8@danwaters>

Martin,

Try 'Me.subFrame.Form.Undo'

The subFrame is the name of the container for the subform itself.

Dan Waters
ProMation Systems

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Caro
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 8:46 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] UNDO - Subform from Parent

Ho folks

Can anyone help me with the syntax to run an Undo on a subform from a
button located in the parent form...... 
(how to run an Undo from a sub on its parent has been asked before...
Darren Dick 03/06/2004) but I need it around the other way so it should
be possible.

Thanks

Martin
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From mcaro at bigpond.net.au  Mon Nov 22 22:45:46 2004
From: mcaro at bigpond.net.au (Martin Caro)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:45:46 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] UNDO -  Subform from Parent
References: <000201c4d10c$bcfce6c0$de1811d8@danwaters>
Message-ID: <00a001c4d117$4c21e800$0100000a@MITSERVER>

As John pointed out the record is saved as the subform loses focus so I've
changed tack and decided to place an undo button inside each of my
subforms.... not ideal as I wanted to keep all my buttons together but....it
works!

Thanks John & Dan

Martin

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To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 2:30 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] UNDO - Subform from Parent


> Martin,
>
> Try 'Me.subFrame.Form.Undo'
>
> The subFrame is the name of the container for the subform itself.
>
> Dan Waters
> ProMation Systems
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Caro
> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 8:46 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] UNDO - Subform from Parent
>
> Ho folks
>
> Can anyone help me with the syntax to run an Undo on a subform from a
> button located in the parent form......
> (how to run an Undo from a sub on its parent has been asked before...
> Darren Dick 03/06/2004) but I need it around the other way so it should
> be possible.
>
> Thanks
>
> Martin
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From mark.breen at gmail.com  Tue Nov 23 02:18:08 2004
From: mark.breen at gmail.com (Mark Breen)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:18:08 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet
In-Reply-To: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF9A7@DISABILITYINS01>
References: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF9A7@DISABILITYINS01>
Message-ID: <26a96cce04112300187eeb9f04@mail.gmail.com>

Hello John,

It is quite easy to talk to Excel, but I guess that it depends on what
you need to achieve and which way you prefer to go about it.

I have just completed five days coding, on-site for a large European
retailer that are very, very security conscious.  Unfortunately for
you, I am not allowed to take work off site, believe it or not, I am
not even allowed on the Internet or email.  If it was not for that, I
would just give you the mdb.

In a nutshell, it prepares some data using normal queries.  Once
ready, I open an instance of Excel, add a sheet and then start poking
the values into excel.  The first two or three cells require that you
get used to it, but once they are done, you can then fill the whole
sheet.  I am writing about 35000 cells of data from within nested
loops that work down and across the page.

>From that point, you can then programatically format the entire excel
sheet, including setting page setups etc.

I use the Macro Recorder to get the bones of the VBA that you need and
then bring it back into Access.

One thing that you have to be aware of is the object model in Excel.  

For example, the following code stumped me for a while yesterday

I have three variables 
objXLApp as Excel. Application
objXLBook as Excel.Workbook
objXLSht as Excel.WorkSheet

The following lines are how they are written in Access
objXLSht.Range("A1", "C3").Select
objXLApp.Selection.Font.Bold = True

I would have presumed that it would have been objXLSht on the second
line of code.

Anyway, it is not an Excel table, but I may suit you to just
programatically pull the data in.

Best of luck,

Mark




On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:52:47 -0500, Colby, John <jcolby at dispec.com> wrote:
> Does anyone have code for linking to an excel spreadsheet?
> 
> If I manually create a link, the wizard finds all the fields, sets up with
> the "first line has field names" etc.  Everything works fine.  However if
> the table is not linked already, I need to create a tabledef, set the
> SourceTableName and Connect properties.  If I then try to append the
> tabledef to db.tabledefs I get an error that no fields are defined.  It is
> obvious that a LOT more is involved here.  It appears that I have to open
> the spreadsheet, get the first line, create fields with the data in the
> first line, somehow figure out the datatype of each column etc.  Is there a
> prebuilt code I can call to do all this stuff?  If the wizard can do it,
> then the code behind the wizard could do it for me.
> 
> Has anyone ever done this?
> 
> John W. Colby
> The DIS Database Guy
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov 23 03:27:14 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:27:14 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
	Something
Message-ID: <s1a3108b.073@cactus.dk>

Wonderful! Thank you so much Arthur.

/gustav

>>> artful at rogers.com 23-11-2004 00:18:16 >>>
1. There are a pair of classic sentences that are used frequently to 
derail machine translators:
a) Bill sent me a bill which I forwarded to Bill.
b) Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.
(This one I capitalized to help you through it, although it still takes

some work. To save you the trouble.... there is an English verb, to 
buffalo. It means to baffle, or perhaps to bullshit. As in, when the 
client asked question X, I buffaloed her. A particular variation on
said 
action is known as the Buffalo buffalo. This is a version particular to

the city -- as opposed to say the New Orleans buffalo. So, certain 
buffalo who happen to reside in Buffalo do the Buffalo buffalo to other

buffalo who also happen to reside in Buffalo.)

There are many other variants on this problem, and to give my source 
credit they can be found in Steve Pinker's classic book "The Language 
Instinct". (For those unfamiliar with it and who also happen to wonder

what the hell Noam Chomsky was on about, said book contains the most 
concise explication of Noam's basic theory that I have ever read.) Here

are a few more nuggets for your translation-machine:

Deer Kill 180,000
Queen Mary Having Bottom Scraped

And of course, the old saw, from Marx (Groucho not Karl), "Time flies 
like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."

An even more remarkable one, also courtesty Mr. Pinker.... here are 2 
sentences, each spoken by a different person (presumably married to
each 
other):

a. I'm leaving you.
b. Who is he?

This one is my favourite. The other ambiguities are resoluble by
parsing 
the sentence in question carefully. But this latter is remarkable in
that:
a) none of the words assembled convey a larger meaning (as is the case,

for example, in "The New York Yankees").
b) all of the words assembled convey no inherent meaning (you have to 
assume a HUGE amount of cultural baggage in order to interpret this 
conversation; further, you have to assume certain mores, certain 
cultural perspectives, certain sexual preferences and so on, in order
to 
make any sense of this snippet of conversation -- i.e. regardless of
the 
gender of A, we can deduce that A is only interested in males, but that

may be a faulty deduction; A could be bisexual and B unaware of this;
it 
is also possible that A is leaving B not for someone else but simply 
because living with B is intolerable; and so on). IOW, virtually NONE
of 
the meat in this conversation is contained either in the individual 
words or in their assemblage; ALL of the meaning is contained in the 
minds (and by extension the cultures) of the speakers.

I have a lot of European friends, and almost all of them have commented

at one time or another on the elasticity of English. Consider the word

"fuck". It can be used in so many ways that it boggles the minds of 
newcomers to the English language. I fucked a lovely woman last night.
I 
fucked a business competitor this morning. I tried to repair my 
motorcycle but fucked it up. Fuck you! Fuck that! Fuck you and the
horse 
you rode in on. Fuck me. And so on.

There's a common (and I might add falacious) maxim that the Inuit have

28 words for snow. This is true only in the sense that we have 100
words 
for cigarette or automobile (Honda Prelude, Dodge Caravan, etc.) The 
example cited above is the opposite phenomenon, as exemplified by 
another old riddle: Why is making love in a canoe like drinking 
Budweiser? Because it's fucking close to water.

Insofar as writing remains utterly ambiguous (a pretty tough 
proposition, but let's let that pass), then translation-engines have a

slim chance of accuracy. To the extent that language is a joy, a thing

to be savoured, played with, caressed, teased and fondled, then 
machine-translation has virtually no chance of success. If we go no 
further than translating "File | Open..." then we may be safe; ditto
for 
various error messages.... but even there, I have to point out that
once 
I taught a course, one of whose students was confined to a wheelchair,

and when a message came up saying something like "Invalid parameter", 
she said, "I'm an invalid." Which in turn led me to consider what a 
horrid word that was to describe people in her condition. Such persons

are not invalid; they are just as valid as you and me.

Yet another example. A close friend and colleague of mine, from
Britain, 
gave me a copy of his new software to test. A couple of days later he 
asked me what I thought of it. I replied, "Not bad!". In Canada this is

a compliment. In Britain this means that I couldn't find anything truly

despicable to say about it, but was overall underwhelmed. His look of 
shock make me realize a cultural gap here of serious proportions.

Chevrolet at one point release an automobile called "Nova". In Spanish

this means "Does not go." (Neuve is the word for New.)

All of which goes to say, do not trust translation-machines. If you
need 
to translate, find a human.

One final example, taken from the annals of machine-translation 
literature. They had an English to Russian translator and its opposite.

They fed in an English sentence, translated it to Russian, and then 
translated it back.

a) The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak.
b) The vodka is good but the meat is rotten.

Arthur



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov 23 04:36:31 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:36:31 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet
Message-ID: <s1a320df.075@cactus.dk>

Hi John

That is what I mean. You open the workbook as a database, then browse
the TableDefs collection and pick the table(s) you wish to link, be it
by item or name:

<code>

Function CheckXls()

  Dim dbs As DAO.Database
  Dim tdf As DAO.TableDef
  
  Set dbs = DBEngine(0).OpenDatabase("d:\temp\yourworkbook.xls", False,
True, "Excel 5.0;HDR=YES;IMEX=2;")
  Debug.Print dbs.TableDefs.Count & " table(s):"
  For Each tdf In dbs.TableDefs
    Debug.Print , tdf.Name
  Next
  dbs.Close

  Set tdf = Nothing
  Set dbs = Nothing
  
End Function

</code>

Note that worksheet names carries a trailing "$" while Named Ranges
don't.
See my recent posting on "Search for linked documents...."

/gustav

>>> JColby at dispec.com 22-11-2004 19:38:52 >>>
Gustav,

You can link directly to a sheet in a .xls file, whereupon that sheet
looks
like a table in Access.  The tdf is what is used to manipulate the
linked
table, at least in terms of discovering the name of the sheet, the name
of
the file it links to etc.

I receive spreadsheets from the client.  I link them in to the
database,
then write queries to append all the data from the spreadsheet into a
raw
data table.  However, the spreadsheet is created by hand so the sheet
name
internal to the spreadsheet is not necessarily consistent from file to
file.
I am attempting to get the name of the sheet but have had instances
where
that failed.  I have also had instances where I deleted the sheet and
simply
need to "relink" the spreadsheet from scratch.

It is this process to which I am referring.  Given a spreadsheet with
a
single sheet inside, with the data in a format such that the first line
has
field names, how do I "link" the spreadsheet to Access
programmatically?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 1:21 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet


Hi John

Are you looking at the xls file as a database? It doesn't seem to be
the case.
The database has tables - worksheets or Named Ranges - it is those
that
are to be linked.

/gustav

>>> JColby at dispec.com 22-11-2004 18:52:47 >>>
Does anyone have code for linking to an excel spreadsheet?

If I manually create a link, the wizard finds all the fields, sets up
with
the "first line has field names" etc.  Everything works fine.  However
if
the table is not linked already, I need to create a tabledef, set the
SourceTableName and Connect properties.  If I then try to append the
tabledef to db.tabledefs I get an error that no fields are defined.  It
is
obvious that a LOT more is involved here.  It appears that I have to
open
the spreadsheet, get the first line, create fields with the data in
the
first line, somehow figure out the datatype of each column etc.  Is
there a
prebuilt code I can call to do all this stuff?  If the wizard can do
it,
then the code behind the wizard could do it for me.

Has anyone ever done this?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov 23 05:04:39 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 12:04:39 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] #Num!
Message-ID: <s1a32773.076@cactus.dk>

Hi John

I don't think you can. 
An option might be to import the worksheet to a temp table. Then you
can manipulate the data as you wish.

If you find a method please let us know.

/gustav

>>> JColby at dispec.com 22-11-2004 19:23:39 >>>
Does anyone know how to convert #Num! in a linked spreadsheet to a null
or
something useable in Access?



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Nov 23 06:10:09 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 07:10:09 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] #Num!
In-Reply-To: <s1a32773.076@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <004601c4d155$64999a70$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

I'm trying to import it into a temp table and get a "numeric overflow" when
trying to do the append.  This even though I have converted ALL of the
fields to text.  The issue is coming from a date field with null in the
first record (but dates in most of the rest).  

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 6:05 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] #Num!


Hi John

I don't think you can. 
An option might be to import the worksheet to a temp table. Then you can
manipulate the data as you wish.

If you find a method please let us know.

/gustav

>>> JColby at dispec.com 22-11-2004 19:23:39 >>>
Does anyone know how to convert #Num! in a linked spreadsheet to a null or
something useable in Access?

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Nov 23 06:15:17 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 07:15:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet
In-Reply-To: <26a96cce04112300187eeb9f04@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004701c4d156$1804fff0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Mark,

I did the same kinds of thing down in Mexico.  A client ran a maquilladora
making clothing.  They were simply accustomed to Excel and able to
manipulate data in it for analysis so we always exported our data out to
Excel using similar concepts to what you are discussing.  Rarely poking a
cell at a time but often dropping the entire table out there.  Then my
friend would go in and format the data, manipulate it for summations etc.
all with the macro recorder on.  We would then in the end dump the data and
have Access run the macros that he created.  It worked very well!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:18 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet


Hello John,

It is quite easy to talk to Excel, but I guess that it depends on what you
need to achieve and which way you prefer to go about it.

I have just completed five days coding, on-site for a large European
retailer that are very, very security conscious.  Unfortunately for you, I
am not allowed to take work off site, believe it or not, I am not even
allowed on the Internet or email.  If it was not for that, I would just give
you the mdb.

In a nutshell, it prepares some data using normal queries.  Once ready, I
open an instance of Excel, add a sheet and then start poking the values into
excel.  The first two or three cells require that you get used to it, but
once they are done, you can then fill the whole sheet.  I am writing about
35000 cells of data from within nested loops that work down and across the
page.

>From that point, you can then programatically format the entire excel
sheet, including setting page setups etc.

I use the Macro Recorder to get the bones of the VBA that you need and then
bring it back into Access.

One thing that you have to be aware of is the object model in Excel.  

For example, the following code stumped me for a while yesterday

I have three variables 
objXLApp as Excel. Application
objXLBook as Excel.Workbook
objXLSht as Excel.WorkSheet

The following lines are how they are written in Access objXLSht.Range("A1",
"C3").Select objXLApp.Selection.Font.Bold = True

I would have presumed that it would have been objXLSht on the second line of
code.

Anyway, it is not an Excel table, but I may suit you to just programatically
pull the data in.

Best of luck,

Mark




On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:52:47 -0500, Colby, John <jcolby at dispec.com> wrote:
> Does anyone have code for linking to an excel spreadsheet?
> 
> If I manually create a link, the wizard finds all the fields, sets up 
> with the "first line has field names" etc.  Everything works fine.  
> However if the table is not linked already, I need to create a 
> tabledef, set the SourceTableName and Connect properties.  If I then 
> try to append the tabledef to db.tabledefs I get an error that no 
> fields are defined.  It is obvious that a LOT more is involved here.  
> It appears that I have to open the spreadsheet, get the first line, 
> create fields with the data in the first line, somehow figure out the 
> datatype of each column etc.  Is there a prebuilt code I can call to 
> do all this stuff?  If the wizard can do it, then the code behind the 
> wizard could do it for me.
> 
> Has anyone ever done this?
> 
> John W. Colby
> The DIS Database Guy
> 
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov 23 06:42:22 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 13:42:22 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] #Num!
Message-ID: <s1a33e41.080@cactus.dk>

Hi John

That's not nice. Who makes such spreadsheets?

How about saving (via code) the worksheet to a text file (.csv) and
then read this line by line validating the fields? Not very fancy, I
know, but what options are left?

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 23-11-2004 13:10:09 >>>
I'm trying to import it into a temp table and get a "numeric overflow"
when
trying to do the append.  This even though I have converted ALL of the
fields to text.  The issue is coming from a date field with null in
the
first record (but dates in most of the rest).  

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/ 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav
Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 6:05 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] #Num!


Hi John

I don't think you can. 
An option might be to import the worksheet to a temp table. Then you
can
manipulate the data as you wish.

If you find a method please let us know.

/gustav

>>> JColby at dispec.com 22-11-2004 19:23:39 >>>
Does anyone know how to convert #Num! in a linked spreadsheet to a null
or
something useable in Access?



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov 23 06:52:44 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 13:52:44 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet
Message-ID: <s1a340c1.082@cactus.dk>

Hi Mark

A client had a similar need. I followed John's advice and used this
method which is great because it separates the handling of data from the
formatting and design of the workbooks.

The solution has been running for a statistics database publishing each
month via e-mail neat spreadsheet reports for over two years without any
error.

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 23-11-2004 13:15:17 >>>
Mark,

I did the same kinds of thing down in Mexico.  A client ran a
maquilladora
making clothing.  They were simply accustomed to Excel and able to
manipulate data in it for analysis so we always exported our data out
to
Excel using similar concepts to what you are discussing.  Rarely poking
a
cell at a time but often dropping the entire table out there.  Then my
friend would go in and format the data, manipulate it for summations
etc.
all with the macro recorder on.  We would then in the end dump the data
and
have Access run the macros that he created.  It worked very well!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/ 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:18 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet


Hello John,

It is quite easy to talk to Excel, but I guess that it depends on what
you
need to achieve and which way you prefer to go about it.

I have just completed five days coding, on-site for a large European
retailer that are very, very security conscious.  Unfortunately for
you, I
am not allowed to take work off site, believe it or not, I am not even
allowed on the Internet or email.  If it was not for that, I would just
give
you the mdb.

In a nutshell, it prepares some data using normal queries.  Once ready,
I
open an instance of Excel, add a sheet and then start poking the values
into
excel.  The first two or three cells require that you get used to it,
but
once they are done, you can then fill the whole sheet.  I am writing
about
35000 cells of data from within nested loops that work down and across
the
page.

>From that point, you can then programatically format the entire excel
sheet, including setting page setups etc.

I use the Macro Recorder to get the bones of the VBA that you need and
then
bring it back into Access.

One thing that you have to be aware of is the object model in Excel.  

For example, the following code stumped me for a while yesterday

I have three variables 
objXLApp as Excel. Application
objXLBook as Excel.Workbook
objXLSht as Excel.WorkSheet

The following lines are how they are written in Access
objXLSht.Range("A1",
"C3").Select objXLApp.Selection.Font.Bold = True

I would have presumed that it would have been objXLSht on the second
line of
code.

Anyway, it is not an Excel table, but I may suit you to just
programatically
pull the data in.

Best of luck,

Mark



From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 23 07:05:40 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 05:05:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Search for linked documents....IN TABLES....
In-Reply-To: <20041122113102.67318.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20041123130540.52003.qmail@web61105.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi group,
 
it seemed that the users where not talking about linked tables but about linked documents in a table!
 
So I've got a table, this table has an oledb field in it. I found out how to search for this.
However, I now need to figure out how I can do the following:
1 - check if file is linked
2 - what type of file is linked (Word, Excel, etc)
3 - what is the version of the matching officeprogram (eg Word 97, Excell 2002)
4 - what is the location of the file
5 - what are the create, last modified, last opened date
 
Did anybody ever do something like this?
Does anybody know if there is some sort of object model that I can use for this eg like in Excell: Application => Workbook => worksheet, etc? 
Does anybody know to any tips on how to figure this out?! 
 
Thnx in advance!
 
Sander
 

S D <accessd667 at yahoo.com> wrote:
Have fun....haha..ha...hmmm I think we've got different ideas about fun 
Thnx for the, once again, great response.

Sander

Gustav Brock wrote:
Hi Sander

This is doable but not straight forward.

First, linked "documents" are treated as ISAM databases and tables. For
text and xBase and Paradox files, the directory is the "database" while
for Excel and Html the file is the database. Linked MAPI tables are even
more excotic so I will leave them for this. Linked ODBC tables are
complete different as they are identified by their connect strings.

Second, tables may be linked with other names than their true names.

This a query which will return all non-deleted links:

SELECT DISTINCT 
RTrim([Database]) AS DbsPath, 
MSysObjects.Connect, 
Hex(GetTableType([Flags])) AS TableType, 
MSysObjects.ForeignName, 
GetTrueForeignName(GetTableType([Flags]),[ForeignName]) AS
TrueForeignName, 
MSysObjects.Name AS LinkedName
FROM 
MSysObjects
WHERE 
(IsTablePresent([Flags])=True) 
AND 
(MSysObjects.Type=4 Or MSysObjects.Type=6);

It uses these supporting functions:



Declarations.

' Table types known.
'
' ODBC connection.
Private Const clngTableTypeNone As Long = &H0
' Note: MS MSDE/SQL Server has some higher bits set as well.
Private Const clngTableTypeOdbc As Long = &H100000
' Jet file attached by UNC name.
Private Const clngTableTypeJetUnc As Long = &H200000
' Jet file attached by mapped drive letter.
Private Const clngTableTypeJetDrive As Long = &H400000
Private Const clngTableTypeParadox As Long = &H700000
Private Const clngTableTypeDbase As Long = &H800000
Private Const clngTableTypeText As Long = &HA00000
Private Const clngTableTypeExcel As Long = &HB00000
Private Const clngTableTypeOutlook As Long = &HD00000
Private Const clngTableTypeHtml As Long = &HE00000

Public Function GetTrueForeignName( _
ByVal lngTableType As Long, _
ByVal strForeignName As String) _
As String

' Returns true foreign name for those ISAM table types
' where this is stored as an alias.
' Foreign names for other table types are not altered.
'
' Example Excel:
' Alias for worksheet: Sheet1$
' True name: Sheet1
' Example Paradox:
' Alias for table name: Pdoxfile#db
' True name: Pdoxfile.db
'
' 2004-05-10. Cactus Data ApS, CPH.

Const cstrSepDbase As String = "#"
Const cstrSepParadox As String = "#"
Const cstrSepText As String = "#"
Const cstrSepExcel As String = "$"
Const cstrRplExcel As String = vbNullString

Dim strTrueName As String
Dim lngPos As Long

Select Case lngTableType
Case clngTableTypeParadox
lngPos = InStr(strForeignName, cstrSepParadox)
If lngPos > 1 Then
strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, lngPos - 1)
Else
strTrueName = strForeignName
End If
Case clngTableTypeDbase
lngPos = InStr(strForeignName, cstrSepDbase)
If lngPos > 1 Then
strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, lngPos - 1)
Else
strTrueName = strForeignName
End If
Case clngTableTypeExcel
If Right(strForeignName, 1) = cstrSepExcel Then
' Worksheet. Strip traling "$".
strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, Len(strForeignName) - 1)
Else
' Named Range. Leave as is.
strTrueName = strForeignName
End If
Case clngTableTypeText
lngPos = InStr(strForeignName, cstrSepText)
If lngPos > 1 Then
strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, lngPos - 1)
Else
strTrueName = strForeignName
End If
Case Else
strTrueName = strForeignName
End Select

GetTrueForeignName = strTrueName

End Function

Public Function IsTablePresent( _
ByVal lngFlag As Long) _
As Boolean

' Returns True if a table is not flagged as deleted in MSysObjects.
' To be used in a query to extract currently attached tables.
'
' 2004-04-21. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.

Const clngFlagDeleted As Long = &H1001

Dim booDeleted As Boolean

booDeleted = lngFlag And clngFlagDeleted

IsTablePresent = Not booDeleted

End Function

Public Function GetTableType( _
ByVal lngFlag As Long) _
As Long

' Returns the table type from lngFlag in MSysObjects by rounding it to
' &H100000 which strips all minor flags including the hidden flag
(&H8)
' and all major flags - like &H20xxxxxx used by MS MSDE/SQL Server.
' To be used in a query to extract currently attached tables of a
specific type.
'
' 2004-04-21. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.

' Flag mask.
' Const clngFlagMajor As Long = &HFF000000
' Const clngFlagMinor As Long = &HFFFFF
Const clngFlagMask As Long = &HFF0FFFFF

Dim lngType As Long

lngType = lngFlag And Not clngFlagMask

GetTableType = lngType

End Function



Have fun!

/gustav

>>> accessd667 at yahoo.com 19-11-2004 14:57:55 >>>
Hi group,

I've got some code from the ADHB2K to search for linked tables.
However, it is also possible to link documents...office documents that
is. So I mean files with extions like:
.xls;
.txt;
etc

Q1: how can I search for these linked 'documents'?
Q2: how can I pinpoint the xls files from none xls files?

TIA

Sander

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From mark.breen at gmail.com  Tue Nov 23 07:08:18 2004
From: mark.breen at gmail.com (Mark Breen)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 13:08:18 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet
In-Reply-To: <004701c4d156$1804fff0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
References: <26a96cce04112300187eeb9f04@mail.gmail.com>
	<004701c4d156$1804fff0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <26a96cce041123050873eba6cb@mail.gmail.com>

Hello John,

Would it not give you more control to do it this way?  It is a little
more complex, but if gives you total control.

Especially if you use the tabledefs collection that Gustav describes
above.  That sounds interesting.

Best of Luck

Mark


On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 07:15:17 -0500, John W. Colby
<jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> Mark,
> 
> I did the same kinds of thing down in Mexico.  A client ran a maquilladora
> making clothing.  They were simply accustomed to Excel and able to
> manipulate data in it for analysis so we always exported our data out to
> Excel using similar concepts to what you are discussing.  Rarely poking a
> cell at a time but often dropping the entire table out there.  Then my
> friend would go in and format the data, manipulate it for summations etc.
> all with the macro recorder on.  We would then in the end dump the data and
> have Access run the macros that he created.  It worked very well!
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:18 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet
> 
> Hello John,
> 
> It is quite easy to talk to Excel, but I guess that it depends on what you
> need to achieve and which way you prefer to go about it.
> 
> I have just completed five days coding, on-site for a large European
> retailer that are very, very security conscious.  Unfortunately for you, I
> am not allowed to take work off site, believe it or not, I am not even
> allowed on the Internet or email.  If it was not for that, I would just give
> you the mdb.
> 
> In a nutshell, it prepares some data using normal queries.  Once ready, I
> open an instance of Excel, add a sheet and then start poking the values into
> excel.  The first two or three cells require that you get used to it, but
> once they are done, you can then fill the whole sheet.  I am writing about
> 35000 cells of data from within nested loops that work down and across the
> page.
> 
> >From that point, you can then programatically format the entire excel
> sheet, including setting page setups etc.
> 
> I use the Macro Recorder to get the bones of the VBA that you need and then
> bring it back into Access.
> 
> One thing that you have to be aware of is the object model in Excel.
> 
> For example, the following code stumped me for a while yesterday
> 
> I have three variables
> objXLApp as Excel. Application
> objXLBook as Excel.Workbook
> objXLSht as Excel.WorkSheet
> 
> The following lines are how they are written in Access objXLSht.Range("A1",
> "C3").Select objXLApp.Selection.Font.Bold = True
> 
> I would have presumed that it would have been objXLSht on the second line of
> code.
> 
> Anyway, it is not an Excel table, but I may suit you to just programatically
> pull the data in.
> 
> Best of luck,
> 
> Mark
> 
> On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:52:47 -0500, Colby, John <jcolby at dispec.com> wrote:
> > Does anyone have code for linking to an excel spreadsheet?
> >
> > If I manually create a link, the wizard finds all the fields, sets up
> > with the "first line has field names" etc.  Everything works fine.
> > However if the table is not linked already, I need to create a
> > tabledef, set the SourceTableName and Connect properties.  If I then
> > try to append the tabledef to db.tabledefs I get an error that no
> > fields are defined.  It is obvious that a LOT more is involved here.
> > It appears that I have to open the spreadsheet, get the first line,
> > create fields with the data in the first line, somehow figure out the
> > datatype of each column etc.  Is there a prebuilt code I can call to
> > do all this stuff?  If the wizard can do it, then the code behind the
> > wizard could do it for me.
> >
> > Has anyone ever done this?
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > The DIS Database Guy
> >
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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Tue Nov 23 07:25:49 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:25:49 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP - Access 2000
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4384B456@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

Inherited Database - not my fault.  For the moment, I have an XP front
end in A2K format that has a link to open up one of a gazillion backends
until I can migrate the gazillion backends to one big a* backend in SQL
with one front-end.  So... I develop in XP due to the .printer
capabilities.  When this code (inherited, not my fault) runs, I get the
dreaded 3033 error that I do not have the permissions to open up the
database it is pointing to.  If I open up Access 2000, I am able to open
up the database, no problem.  

Any ideas?  Would putting in the user id and password make this click?
Thanks for the help.


Private Sub Open_PartsDB()
'Hide ManufacturerDialog form, attach Parts Database tables, and open
frmMainParts

    'On Error GoTo Err_Open_PartsDB
    
    Dim strDocName As String
    Dim strLinkCriteria As String
    Dim tdfTmpParts As TableDef, tdfTmpPartsTC As TableDef,
tdfTmpPartsProt As TableDef
    Dim strPrefix As String
    Dim strTblName As String
    Dim strMfr As String
    
    Dim dbsDest As DAO.Database
    Set dbsDest = CurrentDb()
    
    
       
    'Create table objects
    
        Set tdfTmpParts = dbsDest.TableDefs("Parts")
        Set tdfTmpPartsTC = dbsDest.TableDefs("TC-Parts")
        Set tdfTmpPartsProt = dbsDest.TableDefs("TC-Protections")
      
    
    If IsNull(MfrID) Then
        MsgBox "Please click a manufacturer in the list"
    Else
        
        strDocName = "frmMainParts"
        strTblName = "Parts"
        strLinkCriteria = "q:\tc_parts\" & MfrID & "\" & MfrID & ".mdb"
        strPrefix = Left$(dbsDest.TableDefs("Parts").Connect,
InStr(tdfTmpParts.Connect, "="))
        tdfTmpParts.Connect = ";DATABASE=" & strLinkCriteria
        tdfTmpParts.RefreshLink
        strPrefix = Left$(dbsDest.TableDefs("TC-Parts").Connect,
InStr(tdfTmpPartsTC.Connect, "="))
        tdfTmpPartsTC.Connect = ";DATABASE=" & strLinkCriteria
        tdfTmpPartsTC.RefreshLink
        strPrefix = Left$(dbsDest.TableDefs("TC-Protections").Connect,
InStr(tdfTmpPartsProt.Connect, "="))
        tdfTmpPartsProt.Connect = ";DATABASE=" & strLinkCriteria
        tdfTmpPartsProt.RefreshLink
        
        If IsTableEmpty(strTblName) = True Then
                MsgBox "There are no records in the Parts Database for "
& MfrID & ".", , "Parts table is empty"
                Exit Sub
         End If
        
        DoCmd.OpenForm strDocName, acNormal
        Forms!frmMainParts![MfrCode] = [MfrID]
        Forms![frmMainParts]![MfrName] = DLookup("[ManufacturerName]",
"Manufacturers", "[ManufacturerCode] = MfrID")
        DoCmd.SetWarnings False
        DoCmd.OpenQuery ("~MakeMfrCode"), acNormal
        Me.Visible = False
        
    End If


From JHewson at karta.com  Tue Nov 23 07:35:31 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 07:35:31 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] #Num!
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068D00@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>


Couldn't you export 0 (zero) instead of null?
Would Nz() work?
Then delete all 0's in the Excel spreadsheet?

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 6:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] #Num!


I'm trying to import it into a temp table and get a "numeric overflow" when
trying to do the append.  This even though I have converted ALL of the
fields to text.  The issue is coming from a date field with null in the
first record (but dates in most of the rest).  

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 6:05 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] #Num!


Hi John

I don't think you can. 
An option might be to import the worksheet to a temp table. Then you can
manipulate the data as you wish.

If you find a method please let us know.

/gustav

>>> JColby at dispec.com 22-11-2004 19:23:39 >>>
Does anyone know how to convert #Num! in a linked spreadsheet to a null or
something useable in Access?

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From actebs at actebs.com.au  Tue Nov 23 07:41:26 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 00:41:26 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] #Num!
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD5055833280886E9@starfleet.unknown.local>

John,

I'm pretty sure I've encountered this previously. Try using something like:

If IsError(YourFieldName) then
	whatever
else
	whatever
End if

HTH

Vlad


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Wednesday, 24 November 2004 12:36 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] #Num!



Couldn't you export 0 (zero) instead of null?
Would Nz() work?
Then delete all 0's in the Excel spreadsheet?

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 6:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] #Num!


I'm trying to import it into a temp table and get a "numeric overflow" when
trying to do the append.  This even though I have converted ALL of the
fields to text.  The issue is coming from a date field with null in the
first record (but dates in most of the rest).  

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 6:05 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] #Num!


Hi John

I don't think you can. 
An option might be to import the worksheet to a temp table. Then you can
manipulate the data as you wish.

If you find a method please let us know.

/gustav

>>> JColby at dispec.com 22-11-2004 19:23:39 >>>
Does anyone know how to convert #Num! in a linked spreadsheet to a null or
something useable in Access?

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Nov 23 07:52:23 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:52:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] #Num!
In-Reply-To: <004601c4d155$64999a70$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <20041123135222.ZKJY2443.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

It's my experience, that most Excel error values need to be cured before
importing them into Access. 

Susan H. 

I'm trying to import it into a temp table and get a "numeric overflow" when
trying to do the append.  This even though I have converted ALL of the
fields to text.  The issue is coming from a date field with null in the
first record (but dates in most of the rest).  




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Nov 23 08:06:04 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:06:04 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet
In-Reply-To: <26a96cce041123050873eba6cb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004b01c4d165$9216db10$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Well... You mean to import one field at a time?  I am trying to get data in
to Access from Excel.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet


Hello John,

Would it not give you more control to do it this way?  It is a little more
complex, but if gives you total control.

Especially if you use the tabledefs collection that Gustav describes above.
That sounds interesting.

Best of Luck

Mark


On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 07:15:17 -0500, John W. Colby
<jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> Mark,
> 
> I did the same kinds of thing down in Mexico.  A client ran a 
> maquilladora making clothing.  They were simply accustomed to Excel 
> and able to manipulate data in it for analysis so we always exported 
> our data out to Excel using similar concepts to what you are 
> discussing.  Rarely poking a cell at a time but often dropping the 
> entire table out there.  Then my friend would go in and format the 
> data, manipulate it for summations etc. all with the macro recorder 
> on.  We would then in the end dump the data and have Access run the 
> macros that he created.  It worked very well!
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:18 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet
> 
> Hello John,
> 
> It is quite easy to talk to Excel, but I guess that it depends on what 
> you need to achieve and which way you prefer to go about it.
> 
> I have just completed five days coding, on-site for a large European 
> retailer that are very, very security conscious.  Unfortunately for 
> you, I am not allowed to take work off site, believe it or not, I am 
> not even allowed on the Internet or email.  If it was not for that, I 
> would just give you the mdb.
> 
> In a nutshell, it prepares some data using normal queries.  Once 
> ready, I open an instance of Excel, add a sheet and then start poking 
> the values into excel.  The first two or three cells require that you 
> get used to it, but once they are done, you can then fill the whole 
> sheet.  I am writing about 35000 cells of data from within nested 
> loops that work down and across the page.
> 
> >From that point, you can then programatically format the entire excel
> sheet, including setting page setups etc.
> 
> I use the Macro Recorder to get the bones of the VBA that you need and 
> then bring it back into Access.
> 
> One thing that you have to be aware of is the object model in Excel.
> 
> For example, the following code stumped me for a while yesterday
> 
> I have three variables
> objXLApp as Excel. Application
> objXLBook as Excel.Workbook
> objXLSht as Excel.WorkSheet
> 
> The following lines are how they are written in Access 
> objXLSht.Range("A1", "C3").Select objXLApp.Selection.Font.Bold = True
> 
> I would have presumed that it would have been objXLSht on the second 
> line of code.
> 
> Anyway, it is not an Excel table, but I may suit you to just 
> programatically pull the data in.
> 
> Best of luck,
> 
> Mark
> 
> On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:52:47 -0500, Colby, John <jcolby at dispec.com> 
> wrote:
> > Does anyone have code for linking to an excel spreadsheet?
> >
> > If I manually create a link, the wizard finds all the fields, sets 
> > up with the "first line has field names" etc.  Everything works 
> > fine. However if the table is not linked already, I need to create a 
> > tabledef, set the SourceTableName and Connect properties.  If I then 
> > try to append the tabledef to db.tabledefs I get an error that no 
> > fields are defined.  It is obvious that a LOT more is involved here. 
> > It appears that I have to open the spreadsheet, get the first line, 
> > create fields with the data in the first line, somehow figure out 
> > the datatype of each column etc.  Is there a prebuilt code I can 
> > call to do all this stuff?  If the wizard can do it, then the code 
> > behind the wizard could do it for me.
> >
> > Has anyone ever done this?
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > The DIS Database Guy
> >
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Nov 23 08:07:48 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:07:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] #Num!
In-Reply-To: <s1a33e41.080@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <004c01c4d165$d425ddd0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

I keep forgetting about this method.  I have never automated Excel to save a
sheet as a csv.  Does anyone have working code to do this?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 7:42 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] #Num!


Hi John

That's not nice. Who makes such spreadsheets?

How about saving (via code) the worksheet to a text file (.csv) and then
read this line by line validating the fields? Not very fancy, I know, but
what options are left?

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 23-11-2004 13:10:09 >>>
I'm trying to import it into a temp table and get a "numeric overflow" when
trying to do the append.  This even though I have converted ALL of the
fields to text.  The issue is coming from a date field with null in the
first record (but dates in most of the rest).  

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 6:05 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] #Num!


Hi John

I don't think you can. 
An option might be to import the worksheet to a temp table. Then you can
manipulate the data as you wish.

If you find a method please let us know.

/gustav

>>> JColby at dispec.com 22-11-2004 19:23:39 >>>
Does anyone know how to convert #Num! in a linked spreadsheet to a null or
something useable in Access?

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Nov 23 08:08:11 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:08:11 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] #Num!
In-Reply-To: <20041123135222.ZKJY2443.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <004d01c4d165$dd904c20$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Yup.  PITA for sure.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:52 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] #Num!


It's my experience, that most Excel error values need to be cured before
importing them into Access. 

Susan H. 

I'm trying to import it into a temp table and get a "numeric overflow" when
trying to do the append.  This even though I have converted ALL of the
fields to text.  The issue is coming from a date field with null in the
first record (but dates in most of the rest).  


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From mark.breen at gmail.com  Tue Nov 23 09:02:09 2004
From: mark.breen at gmail.com (Mark Breen)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:02:09 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet
In-Reply-To: <004b01c4d165$9216db10$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
References: <26a96cce041123050873eba6cb@mail.gmail.com>
	<004b01c4d165$9216db10$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <26a96cce04112307025890f150@mail.gmail.com>

All I am suggestions is that if you open a connection with the XL
workbook in question, you can take what you like, how you like, row by
row, col by col, as a range as gustav suggests, and taking his example
further, a complete sheet.

Depending on the volume and speed required, some of the options above
might not be relevant, but the may be options to consider.

With your programmatic skills, you can have the object model built in
30 minutes and then you can access (no pun intended) any data and put
it into MS Access where ever you like, specifying formats as you go.

Mark



On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:06:04 -0500, John W. Colby
<jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> Well... You mean to import one field at a time?  I am trying to get data in
> to Access from Excel.
> 
> 
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:08 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet
> 
> Hello John,
> 
> Would it not give you more control to do it this way?  It is a little more
> complex, but if gives you total control.
> 
> Especially if you use the tabledefs collection that Gustav describes above.
> That sounds interesting.
> 
> Best of Luck
> 
> Mark
> 
> On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 07:15:17 -0500, John W. Colby
> <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> > Mark,
> >
> > I did the same kinds of thing down in Mexico.  A client ran a
> > maquilladora making clothing.  They were simply accustomed to Excel
> > and able to manipulate data in it for analysis so we always exported
> > our data out to Excel using similar concepts to what you are
> > discussing.  Rarely poking a cell at a time but often dropping the
> > entire table out there.  Then my friend would go in and format the
> > data, manipulate it for summations etc. all with the macro recorder
> > on.  We would then in the end dump the data and have Access run the
> > macros that he created.  It worked very well!
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > http://folding.stanford.edu/
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:18 AM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet
> >
> > Hello John,
> >
> > It is quite easy to talk to Excel, but I guess that it depends on what
> > you need to achieve and which way you prefer to go about it.
> >
> > I have just completed five days coding, on-site for a large European
> > retailer that are very, very security conscious.  Unfortunately for
> > you, I am not allowed to take work off site, believe it or not, I am
> > not even allowed on the Internet or email.  If it was not for that, I
> > would just give you the mdb.
> >
> > In a nutshell, it prepares some data using normal queries.  Once
> > ready, I open an instance of Excel, add a sheet and then start poking
> > the values into excel.  The first two or three cells require that you
> > get used to it, but once they are done, you can then fill the whole
> > sheet.  I am writing about 35000 cells of data from within nested
> > loops that work down and across the page.
> >
> > >From that point, you can then programatically format the entire excel
> > sheet, including setting page setups etc.
> >
> > I use the Macro Recorder to get the bones of the VBA that you need and
> > then bring it back into Access.
> >
> > One thing that you have to be aware of is the object model in Excel.
> >
> > For example, the following code stumped me for a while yesterday
> >
> > I have three variables
> > objXLApp as Excel. Application
> > objXLBook as Excel.Workbook
> > objXLSht as Excel.WorkSheet
> >
> > The following lines are how they are written in Access
> > objXLSht.Range("A1", "C3").Select objXLApp.Selection.Font.Bold = True
> >
> > I would have presumed that it would have been objXLSht on the second
> > line of code.
> >
> > Anyway, it is not an Excel table, but I may suit you to just
> > programatically pull the data in.
> >
> > Best of luck,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:52:47 -0500, Colby, John <jcolby at dispec.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Does anyone have code for linking to an excel spreadsheet?
> > >
> > > If I manually create a link, the wizard finds all the fields, sets
> > > up with the "first line has field names" etc.  Everything works
> > > fine. However if the table is not linked already, I need to create a
> > > tabledef, set the SourceTableName and Connect properties.  If I then
> > > try to append the tabledef to db.tabledefs I get an error that no
> > > fields are defined.  It is obvious that a LOT more is involved here.
> > > It appears that I have to open the spreadsheet, get the first line,
> > > create fields with the data in the first line, somehow figure out
> > > the datatype of each column etc.  Is there a prebuilt code I can
> > > call to do all this stuff?  If the wizard can do it, then the code
> > > behind the wizard could do it for me.
> > >
> > > Has anyone ever done this?
> > >
> > > John W. Colby
> > > The DIS Database Guy
> > >
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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Tue Nov 23 10:55:51 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:55:51 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] The form just won't save.
Message-ID: <16260-2200411223165551812@christopherhawkins.com>

I have an Access 2000 mdb file.  Within this file is a particular
form.  Whenever I try to save changes to the form's module, it just
won't save.  It hourglasses on me forever and eventually returns a
'Not Responding' message.

I have decompiled it.  I have recompiled it.  I have compacted it.  I
have repaired it.  

I do not know what else to do.

Plus I'm working with a fever.  Ack.

Thoughts?
Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov 23 11:08:13 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 18:08:13 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] The form just won't save.
Message-ID: <s1a37caa.093@cactus.dk>

Hi Christopher

Create a new database and import all objects from the other.

/gustav


From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Tue Nov 23 11:23:46 2004
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 12:23:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] The form just won't save.
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A283D@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Sounds like you need to import all the objects in the db to a fresh, empty
mdb file. 

I'd start by importing everything but the problem form (and also leave
behind the MSYS* tables, Access will build them afresh). Then try importing
the problem one. I guess that it will refuse to import as it has become
corrupted. You will then have to rebuild it from scratch or import it from a
backup copy of the application.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Christopher
> Hawkins
> Sent:	Tuesday, November 23, 2004 11:56 AM
> To:	accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject:	[AccessD] The form just won't save.
> 
> I have an Access 2000 mdb file.  Within this file is a particular
> form.  Whenever I try to save changes to the form's module, it just
> won't save.  It hourglasses on me forever and eventually returns a
> 'Not Responding' message.
> 
> I have decompiled it.  I have recompiled it.  I have compacted it.  I
> have repaired it.  
> 
> I do not know what else to do.
> 
> Plus I'm working with a fever.  Ack.
> 
> Thoughts?
> Respectfully,
> 
> Christopher Hawkins
> Software Developer
> (559) 687-7591
> http://www.christopherhawkins.com
> 
> 


From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Tue Nov 23 09:46:24 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:46:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C45E@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

I create run time versions of a program for manufacturers all over the
globe.  Mr. UK (he has a GREAT accent) is able to run the runtime
created in Access 2000 on his XP Professional 2002 SP1 installed that
has Access installed.

The other unit has XP home, SP2, with no Access.  The executable starts
and stops after five seconds.  Is there an issue with home, SP2,
whatever, running runtimes?

I am a bother today, aren't I?





From max at sherman.org.uk  Tue Nov 23 11:52:35 2004
From: max at sherman.org.uk (Max)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 17:52:35 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] The form just won't save.
In-Reply-To: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A283D@xlivmbx21.aig.com>
Message-ID: <20041123175231.FCSM1092.aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@server>

Hi Chris,
What sometimes works is to save the form as a copy.  Select the form in the
db window (right-click) and then copy it to a new form (right-click again
and give it a new name).  The new one often gets copied over without the
offending corrupted byte!
Also, as Lambert says, import it into a new DB, but BEFORE you copy the
offending form, save a backup of what you have copied so far.  
You could also try my program which copies all selected objects as text and
you can then import them from text into a new DB (forms, reports, queries,
modules, etc).  You will find it on Rogers site.   It is called
EATBloatV2.mdb (Extract as Text - defeats DB bloat).

Max Sherman

  

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: 23 November 2004 17:24
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'Christopher
Hawkins'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] The form just won't save.

Sounds like you need to import all the objects in the db to a fresh, empty
mdb file. 

I'd start by importing everything but the problem form (and also leave
behind the MSYS* tables, Access will build them afresh). Then try importing
the problem one. I guess that it will refuse to import as it has become
corrupted. You will then have to rebuild it from scratch or import it from a
backup copy of the application.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Christopher 
> Hawkins
> Sent:	Tuesday, November 23, 2004 11:56 AM
> To:	accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject:	[AccessD] The form just won't save.
> 
> I have an Access 2000 mdb file.  Within this file is a particular 
> form.  Whenever I try to save changes to the form's module, it just 
> won't save.  It hourglasses on me forever and eventually returns a 
> 'Not Responding' message.
> 
> I have decompiled it.  I have recompiled it.  I have compacted it.  I 
> have repaired it.
> 
> I do not know what else to do.
> 
> Plus I'm working with a fever.  Ack.
> 
> Thoughts?
> Respectfully,
> 
> Christopher Hawkins
> Software Developer
> (559) 687-7591
> http://www.christopherhawkins.com
> 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Nov 23 12:03:33 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 13:03:33 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C45E@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <006901c4d186$bf59c210$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Today?  ;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 10:46 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version


I create run time versions of a program for manufacturers all over the
globe.  Mr. UK (he has a GREAT accent) is able to run the runtime created in
Access 2000 on his XP Professional 2002 SP1 installed that has Access
installed.

The other unit has XP home, SP2, with no Access.  The executable starts and
stops after five seconds.  Is there an issue with home, SP2, whatever,
running runtimes?

I am a bother today, aren't I?



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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Tue Nov 23 12:59:01 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 13:59:01 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74486B75@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

I've been fighting with our network/hardware staff for weeks over SP2s ability to break applications.  At the recent Advisor.com event Ken Getz's demo was almost blown by SP2.  Lucky for him (and us) Alison Balter let him copy his files to her machine w/o SP2 and they ran.

Here's a link to get you started into the hell that is SP2:  http://msdn.microsoft.com/security/productinfo/XPSP2/

HTH,

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 10:46 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version


I create run time versions of a program for manufacturers all over the
globe.  Mr. UK (he has a GREAT accent) is able to run the runtime
created in Access 2000 on his XP Professional 2002 SP1 installed that
has Access installed.

The other unit has XP home, SP2, with no Access.  The executable starts
and stops after five seconds.  Is there an issue with home, SP2,
whatever, running runtimes?

I am a bother today, aren't I?



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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Tue Nov 23 14:10:56 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 14:10:56 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Re:  #Num!
In-Reply-To: <200411230925.iAN9PsL01590@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041123140947.014180d0@pop3.highstream.net>

John,

I think it is caused by text in a column that Access is interpreting as a 
number.
So the fault is in the spreadsheet data, not Access.

Robert

At 03:25 AM 11/23/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:23:39 -0500
>From: "Colby, John" <JColby at dispec.com>
>Subject: [AccessD] #Num!
>To: "'AccessD at DatabaseAdvisors.com'" <AccessD at DatabaseAdvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF9A8 at DISABILITYINS01>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Does anyone know how to convert #Num! in a linked spreadsheet to a null or
>something useable in Access?
>
>John W. Colby
>The DIS Database Guy




From mikedorism at adelphia.net  Tue Nov 23 14:26:07 2004
From: mikedorism at adelphia.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:26:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version
In-Reply-To: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74486B75@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>
Message-ID: <000201c4d19a$ad3f92d0$0b08a845@hargrove.internal>

I knew I should have asked if anybody from AccessD was going to Baltimore.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 1:59 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version


I've been fighting with our network/hardware staff for weeks over SP2s
ability to break applications.  At the recent Advisor.com event Ken Getz's
demo was almost blown by SP2.  Lucky for him (and us) Alison Balter let him
copy his files to her machine w/o SP2 and they ran.

Here's a link to get you started into the hell that is SP2:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/security/productinfo/XPSP2/

HTH,

Jim DeMarco

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 10:46 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version


I create run time versions of a program for manufacturers all over the
globe.  Mr. UK (he has a GREAT accent) is able to run the runtime created in
Access 2000 on his XP Professional 2002 SP1 installed that has Access
installed.

The other unit has XP home, SP2, with no Access.  The executable starts and
stops after five seconds.  Is there an issue with home, SP2, whatever,
running runtimes?

I am a bother today, aren't I?



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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Tue Nov 23 14:29:10 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 14:29:10 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something
In-Reply-To: <200411230925.iAN9PsL01590@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041123142629.013be320@pop3.highstream.net>

Or as I have heard in Russia... Pamoika (which is the fragrant
liquid you see running from a dumpster) Arthur, I think your
choice of examples could have been a bit less expressive of
the vulgar.

Robert

At 03:25 AM 11/23/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 18:18:16 -0500
>From: Arthur Fuller <artful at rogers.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
>         Something
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <41A273B8.7010207 at rogers.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>1. There are a pair of classic sentences that are used frequently to
>derail machine translators:
>a) Bill sent me a bill which I forwarded to Bill.
>b) Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.
>(This one I capitalized to help you through it, although it still takes
>some work. To save you the trouble.... there is an English verb, to
>buffalo. It means to baffle, or perhaps to bullshit. As in, when the
>client asked question X, I buffaloed her. A particular variation on said
>action is known as the Buffalo buffalo. This is a version particular to
>the city -- as opposed to say the New Orleans buffalo. So, certain
>buffalo who happen to reside in Buffalo do the Buffalo buffalo to other
>buffalo who also happen to reside in Buffalo.)




From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Tue Nov 23 14:38:55 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:38:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74486B7C@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

This was the Vegas event.  Did they do one in Baltimore?  I wish I'd have known.

Jim D.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:26 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version


I knew I should have asked if anybody from AccessD was going to Baltimore.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 1:59 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version


I've been fighting with our network/hardware staff for weeks over SP2s
ability to break applications.  At the recent Advisor.com event Ken Getz's
demo was almost blown by SP2.  Lucky for him (and us) Alison Balter let him
copy his files to her machine w/o SP2 and they ran.

Here's a link to get you started into the hell that is SP2:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/security/productinfo/XPSP2/

HTH,

Jim DeMarco

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 10:46 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version


I create run time versions of a program for manufacturers all over the
globe.  Mr. UK (he has a GREAT accent) is able to run the runtime created in
Access 2000 on his XP Professional 2002 SP1 installed that has Access
installed.

The other unit has XP home, SP2, with no Access.  The executable starts and
stops after five seconds.  Is there an issue with home, SP2, whatever,
running runtimes?

I am a bother today, aren't I?



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From mikedorism at adelphia.net  Tue Nov 23 15:30:13 2004
From: mikedorism at adelphia.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:30:13 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version
In-Reply-To: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74486B7C@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>
Message-ID: <000301c4d1a3$9faac5a0$0b08a845@hargrove.internal>

Yup.  They did one in Baltimore Nov 1-3.  It will be back in Vegas next
year.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:39 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version


This was the Vegas event.  Did they do one in Baltimore?  I wish I'd have
known.

Jim D.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:26 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version


I knew I should have asked if anybody from AccessD was going to Baltimore.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 1:59 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version


I've been fighting with our network/hardware staff for weeks over SP2s
ability to break applications.  At the recent Advisor.com event Ken Getz's
demo was almost blown by SP2.  Lucky for him (and us) Alison Balter let him
copy his files to her machine w/o SP2 and they ran.

Here's a link to get you started into the hell that is SP2:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/security/productinfo/XPSP2/

HTH,

Jim DeMarco

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 10:46 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version


I create run time versions of a program for manufacturers all over the
globe.  Mr. UK (he has a GREAT accent) is able to run the runtime created in
Access 2000 on his XP Professional 2002 SP1 installed that has Access
installed.

The other unit has XP home, SP2, with no Access.  The executable starts and
stops after five seconds.  Is there an issue with home, SP2, whatever,
running runtimes?

I am a bother today, aren't I?



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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 23 16:29:00 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 14:29:00 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version
References: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C45E@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <41A3B9AC.3010608@shaw.ca>

Couple of quickie things to check was the program installed from a WinXP 
adminstrator account.
Someone may run on a daily basis from a lesser permissioned account to 
avoid viruses.
Win XP SP2 makes a lot of security permission changes.
You might try re-installing with US English language selection set from 
the control panel then resetting to UK English.

I know there were some problems with Win 2003 Server and Access runtimes.

Nicholson, Karen wrote:

>I create run time versions of a program for manufacturers all over the
>globe.  Mr. UK (he has a GREAT accent) is able to run the runtime
>created in Access 2000 on his XP Professional 2002 SP1 installed that
>has Access installed.
>
>The other unit has XP home, SP2, with no Access.  The executable starts
>and stops after five seconds.  Is there an issue with home, SP2,
>whatever, running runtimes?
>
>I am a bother today, aren't I?
>
>
>
>  
>

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From stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz  Tue Nov 23 17:57:20 2004
From: stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz (Stephen Bond)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 12:57:20 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] OT
Message-ID: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F29088979@server.bondsoftware.co.nz>

Any listers in Central Oregon?  Am deserting the antipodean summer and heading that way in mid-December for a month R_and_R, love to swap ideas and experiences.
 
Stephen Bond

From artful at rogers.com  Tue Nov 23 18:04:18 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:04:18 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
	Something
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20041123142629.013be320@pop3.highstream.net>
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20041123142629.013be320@pop3.highstream.net>
Message-ID: <41A3D002.7080900@rogers.com>

No offence intended. It just happens to be one of the most vivid 
examples of the elasticity of English. For a less vulgar example, 
consider the word "cool" or as the young would have it, "kewl". You may 
well be right; I should perhaps have used that word instead. But my 
intent was not vulgarity but rather illumination on the elasticity of 
English. Apologies if I offended.

Robert L. Stewart wrote:

> Or as I have heard in Russia... Pamoika (which is the fragrant
> liquid you see running from a dumpster) Arthur, I think your
> choice of examples could have been a bit less expressive of
> the vulgar.
>
> Robert
>
> At 03:25 AM 11/23/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>
>> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 18:18:16 -0500
>> From: Arthur Fuller <artful at rogers.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
>>         Something
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Message-ID: <41A273B8.7010207 at rogers.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> 1. There are a pair of classic sentences that are used frequently to
>> derail machine translators:
>> a) Bill sent me a bill which I forwarded to Bill.
>> b) Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.
>> (This one I capitalized to help you through it, although it still takes
>> some work. To save you the trouble.... there is an English verb, to
>> buffalo. It means to baffle, or perhaps to bullshit. As in, when the
>> client asked question X, I buffaloed her. A particular variation on said
>> action is known as the Buffalo buffalo. This is a version particular to
>> the city -- as opposed to say the New Orleans buffalo. So, certain
>> buffalo who happen to reside in Buffalo do the Buffalo buffalo to other
>> buffalo who also happen to reside in Buffalo.)
>
>
>


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Nov 23 18:36:48 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:36:48 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B94@infoserver01.infostat.local>

LOL Boy are you in for weather shock, not to mention culture shock!

Charlotte Foust


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From: Stephen Bond [mailto:stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:57 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT


Any listers in Central Oregon?  Am deserting the antipodean summer and
heading that way in mid-December for a month R_and_R, love to swap ideas
and experiences.
 
Stephen Bond


From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 23 18:54:58 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:54:58 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something
In-Reply-To: <41A273B8.7010207@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLICEIMCIAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Arthur: Now that was a good read (rant) ;-).

Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 3:18 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
Something


1. There are a pair of classic sentences that are used frequently to 
derail machine translators:
a) Bill sent me a bill which I forwarded to Bill.
b) Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.
(This one I capitalized to help you through it, although it still takes 
some work. To save you the trouble.... there is an English verb, to 
buffalo. It means to baffle, or perhaps to bullshit. As in, when the 
client asked question X, I buffaloed her. A particular variation on said 
action is known as the Buffalo buffalo. This is a version particular to 
the city -- as opposed to say the New Orleans buffalo. So, certain 
buffalo who happen to reside in Buffalo do the Buffalo buffalo to other 
buffalo who also happen to reside in Buffalo.)

There are many other variants on this problem, and to give my source 
credit they can be found in Steve Pinker's classic book "The Language 
Instinct". (For those unfamiliar with it and who also happen to wonder 
what the hell Noam Chomsky was on about, said book contains the most 
concise explication of Noam's basic theory that I have ever read.) Here 
are a few more nuggets for your translation-machine:

Deer Kill 180,000
Queen Mary Having Bottom Scraped

And of course, the old saw, from Marx (Groucho not Karl), "Time flies 
like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."

An even more remarkable one, also courtesty Mr. Pinker.... here are 2 
sentences, each spoken by a different person (presumably married to each 
other):

a. I'm leaving you.
b. Who is he?

This one is my favourite. The other ambiguities are resoluble by parsing 
the sentence in question carefully. But this latter is remarkable in that:
a) none of the words assembled convey a larger meaning (as is the case, 
for example, in "The New York Yankees").
b) all of the words assembled convey no inherent meaning (you have to 
assume a HUGE amount of cultural baggage in order to interpret this 
conversation; further, you have to assume certain mores, certain 
cultural perspectives, certain sexual preferences and so on, in order to 
make any sense of this snippet of conversation -- i.e. regardless of the 
gender of A, we can deduce that A is only interested in males, but that 
may be a faulty deduction; A could be bisexual and B unaware of this; it 
is also possible that A is leaving B not for someone else but simply 
because living with B is intolerable; and so on). IOW, virtually NONE of 
the meat in this conversation is contained either in the individual 
words or in their assemblage; ALL of the meaning is contained in the 
minds (and by extension the cultures) of the speakers.

I have a lot of European friends, and almost all of them have commented 
at one time or another on the elasticity of English. Consider the word 
"fuck". It can be used in so many ways that it boggles the minds of 
newcomers to the English language. I fucked a lovely woman last night. I 
fucked a business competitor this morning. I tried to repair my 
motorcycle but fucked it up. Fuck you! Fuck that! Fuck you and the horse 
you rode in on. Fuck me. And so on.

There's a common (and I might add falacious) maxim that the Inuit have 
28 words for snow. This is true only in the sense that we have 100 words 
for cigarette or automobile (Honda Prelude, Dodge Caravan, etc.) The 
example cited above is the opposite phenomenon, as exemplified by 
another old riddle: Why is making love in a canoe like drinking 
Budweiser? Because it's fucking close to water.

Insofar as writing remains utterly ambiguous (a pretty tough 
proposition, but let's let that pass), then translation-engines have a 
slim chance of accuracy. To the extent that language is a joy, a thing 
to be savoured, played with, caressed, teased and fondled, then 
machine-translation has virtually no chance of success. If we go no 
further than translating "File | Open..." then we may be safe; ditto for 
various error messages.... but even there, I have to point out that once 
I taught a course, one of whose students was confined to a wheelchair, 
and when a message came up saying something like "Invalid parameter", 
she said, "I'm an invalid." Which in turn led me to consider what a 
horrid word that was to describe people in her condition. Such persons 
are not invalid; they are just as valid as you and me.

Yet another example. A close friend and colleague of mine, from Britain, 
gave me a copy of his new software to test. A couple of days later he 
asked me what I thought of it. I replied, "Not bad!". In Canada this is 
a compliment. In Britain this means that I couldn't find anything truly 
despicable to say about it, but was overall underwhelmed. His look of 
shock make me realize a cultural gap here of serious proportions.

Chevrolet at one point release an automobile called "Nova". In Spanish 
this means "Does not go." (Neuve is the word for New.)

All of which goes to say, do not trust translation-machines. If you need 
to translate, find a human.

One final example, taken from the annals of machine-translation 
literature. They had an English to Russian translator and its opposite. 
They fed in an English sentence, translated it to Russian, and then 
translated it back.

a) The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak.
b) The vodka is good but the meat is rotten.

Arthur

Dan Waters wrote:

>I did some internet research and found that there apparently isn't
>anything that does 'perfect' translations - that is left to actual
>people!  It did seem that there were some not inexpensive software
>solutions that would have been able to do a pretty good job.
>
>Translation on a PC is called Machine Translation.  Machine translation
>can take a document and take a 'first cut' at doing a translation.  Then
>someone who knows both languages can finish it off in less time.  I'm
>going to recommend this approach to my client.
>
>This first cut can be done from Word.  
>	Open a Word document and highlight some text. 
>	Select Tools | Language | Translate.
>	A Translate pane will appear at the right.
>	At the bottom see 'Translate via the Web'.
>	Select the language translation you want.
>	Push Go.
>	A web site will open with the Machine translation of the text
>		you highlighted.  
>
>I tried to use the Look up in Dictionary feature, but that always came
>back with No Suggestions.
>
>Dan Waters
>ProMation Systems
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 7:04 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
>Something
>
>No not on the fly.  Every report is saved twice (once for English,
>another for Spanish).  This was all set up before I got here but I think
>the difference in the text sizes (lengths) between the languages was a
>major reason.
>
>Jim DeMarco
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters
>Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 3:49 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
>Something
>
>
>Jim,
>
>Are your reports partially translated on the fly?  If not it seems that
>you would need to have your original text information recorded in two
>separate places - one for each language?
>
>If on the fly how is this done?
>
>Dan
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:28 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
>Something
>
>We have two of everything here at this point.  Pick the language, print
>the correct version report.
>
>Jim DeMarco
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
>Foust
>Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:28 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
>Something
>
>
>Switch to VB.Net and XML?  (well, it IS Friday) :-}
>
>Charlotte Foust
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com] 
>Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 7:44 AM
>To: Database Advisors
>Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something
>
>
>I have a client who would like their system to be able to present
>reports in different languages, based on a selection made on-screen by
>the reader.  How would I get started making this happen?  
>
> 
>
>Thanks,
>
>Dan Waters
>
>ProMation Systems
>
>  
>


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 23 19:14:38 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 17:14:38 -0800
Subject: [Accessd] OT
In-Reply-To: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F29088979@server.bondsoftware.co.nz>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIKEIMCIAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Steven:

If you decide to wander North a bit to Lotus land, the Vancouver Island,
Victoria, you can always drop in on myself and Marty Connelly. (He is a bit
of a party animal but that is just a unsubstantiated rumor.)

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stephen Bond
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:57 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT


Any listers in Central Oregon?  Am deserting the antipodean summer and
heading that way in mid-December for a month R_and_R, love to swap ideas and
experiences.

Stephen Bond



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Nov 23 20:23:38 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 21:23:38 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] properties
Message-ID: <001401c4d1cc$9fb37b90$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

I had a strange occurrence last night and I just wanted to check the list to
see if anyone has ever seen such a thing.

Windows XP / Office XP, I remoted in to a client site and started work on a
FE.  At some point I tried to compact / repair the db and got the old error
message that "the database could be renamed" and the copy was saved to db2.
I saved the original and then renamed db2 and continued work.  I did NOT
test editing / adding records etc.  The client was asked to test the changes
and came back very upset that two entire tabs of the form were "locked".  I
remoted in tonight and started poking around and sure enough all the
subforms (controls) on those two tabs have the enabled property set to no
which prevents even setting the focus into the subform.  Further all of the
"allow edits/deletions/additions" are set to no for the actual subforms
themselves.

My conjecture is that something happened at the point Access tried to close
the database to do the compact/repair or when it attempted to delete the
original and rename the compacted copy.  Given the damage I've found so far
I certainly don't trust the copy to continue work on.  Who knows what else
has been changed.

Has anyone ever seen such a thing happen?  I never have, but there are so
many properties changed that I have to think that Access somehow set these
properties at some point.

John W. Colby
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From stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz  Tue Nov 23 21:28:22 2004
From: stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz (Stephen Bond)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 16:28:22 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] OT
Message-ID: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F2908897A@server.bondsoftware.co.nz>

I should 'fess up, my wife and I were married there 34 years ago, and some of her family is still there and we enjoy seeing them no matter the weather.  But hey, mr taxman, this is a business trip, right?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 24 November 2004 1:37 p.m.
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT
> 
> 
> LOL Boy are you in for weather shock, not to mention culture shock!
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Bond [mailto:stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:57 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] OT
> 
> 
> Any listers in Central Oregon?  Am deserting the antipodean summer and
> heading that way in mid-December for a month R_and_R, love to 
> swap ideas
> and experiences.
>  
> Stephen Bond
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From william.thompson1 at att.net  Tue Nov 23 21:33:02 2004
From: william.thompson1 at att.net (William Thompson)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:33:02 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] slightly off the topic of Excel to csv #Num!
In-Reply-To: <004c01c4d165$d425ddd0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <200411240332.iAO3WuL01551@databaseadvisors.com>


This is not exactly what you specified, but it looked interesting:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/247412/EN-US/

<snippet>
Dim rs As ADODB...
...
sData = rs.GetString(adClipString, , vbTab, vbCr, vbNullString)
   Open "C:\Test.txt" For Output As #1
   Print #1, sData
   Close #1
...
Shell "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\Excel.exe " & _
      Chr(34) & "C:\Test.txt" & Chr(34), vbMaximizedFocus

A possible way to re-engineer this - with potential for improvement - would
be to create a querytable from a recordset, then write out a 'mirror' csv
file.  I've been looking at this type of thing for 'snapshots' of data that
is constantly being refreshed, or to make dynamic data static.

Bill

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 6:08 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] #Num!

I keep forgetting about this method.  I have never automated Excel to save a
sheet as a csv.  Does anyone have working code to do this?

John W. Colby
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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 7:42 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] #Num!


Hi John

That's not nice. Who makes such spreadsheets?

How about saving (via code) the worksheet to a text file (.csv) and then
read this line by line validating the fields? Not very fancy, I know, but
what options are left?

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 23-11-2004 13:10:09 >>>
I'm trying to import it into a temp table and get a "numeric overflow" when
trying to do the append.  This even though I have converted ALL of the
fields to text.  The issue is coming from a date field with null in the
first record (but dates in most of the rest).  

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 6:05 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] #Num!


Hi John

I don't think you can. 
An option might be to import the worksheet to a temp table. Then you can
manipulate the data as you wish.

If you find a method please let us know.

/gustav

>>> JColby at dispec.com 22-11-2004 19:23:39 >>>
Does anyone know how to convert #Num! in a linked spreadsheet to a null or
something useable in Access?

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From stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz  Tue Nov 23 21:31:33 2004
From: stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz (Stephen Bond)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 16:31:33 +1300
Subject: [Accessd] OT
Message-ID: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F2908897B@server.bondsoftware.co.nz>

I have a cousin on the faculty of U Vic, last visited him in 1993.  We are planning on visiting friends in Port Angeles, who knows what will happen after that.  Thanks for the thought.

Stephen Bond 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
> Sent: Wednesday, 24 November 2004 2:15 p.m.
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [Accessd] OT
> 
> 
> Hi Steven:
> 
> If you decide to wander North a bit to Lotus land, the 
> Vancouver Island,
> Victoria, you can always drop in on myself and Marty 
> Connelly. (He is a bit
> of a party animal but that is just a unsubstantiated rumor.)
> 
> Jim
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stephen Bond
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:57 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] OT
> 
> 
> Any listers in Central Oregon?  Am deserting the antipodean summer and
> heading that way in mid-December for a month R_and_R, love to 
> swap ideas and
> experiences.
> 
> Stephen Bond
> 
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 23 23:55:30 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 21:55:30 -0800
Subject: [Accessd] OT
References: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F2908897B@server.bondsoftware.co.nz>
Message-ID: <41A42252.4010206@shaw.ca>

Well there is a 9 AM and 3PM Coho ferry twice a day  from Port Angeles, 
this time of year it can be blown back into port when crossing the strait.
I do hang out with the Women's Rugby club in Victoria, they make me wear 
one of their teeshirts that reads "Trample the wounded. Hurdle the dead"
The U Vic faculty club does have a nice little pond with frogs and 
turtles jumping around in it tho.

Stephen Bond wrote:

>I have a cousin on the faculty of U Vic, last visited him in 1993.  We are planning on visiting friends in Port Angeles, who knows what will happen after that.  Thanks for the thought.
>
>Stephen Bond 
>
>  
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
>>Sent: Wednesday, 24 November 2004 2:15 p.m.
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: RE: [Accessd] OT
>>
>>
>>Hi Steven:
>>
>>If you decide to wander North a bit to Lotus land, the 
>>Vancouver Island,
>>Victoria, you can always drop in on myself and Marty 
>>Connelly. (He is a bit
>>of a party animal but that is just a unsubstantiated rumor.)
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stephen Bond
>>Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:57 PM
>>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>>Subject: [AccessD] OT
>>
>>
>>Any listers in Central Oregon?  Am deserting the antipodean summer and
>>heading that way in mid-December for a month R_and_R, love to 
>>swap ideas and
>>experiences.
>>
>>Stephen Bond
>>
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>>    
>>

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Canada





From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 24 00:26:07 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 22:26:07 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT
In-Reply-To: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F2908897A@server.bondsoftware.co.nz>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIKEJACIAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Congratulations Stephen:

We just celebrated our thirtieth this year...but 34; I am impressed. Between
you and me and other members of the list, enjoy your 'business' trip.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stephen Bond
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 7:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT


I should 'fess up, my wife and I were married there 34 years ago, and some
of her family is still there and we enjoy seeing them no matter the weather.
But hey, mr taxman, this is a business trip, right?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 24 November 2004 1:37 p.m.
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT
>
>
> LOL Boy are you in for weather shock, not to mention culture shock!
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Bond [mailto:stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:57 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] OT
>
>
> Any listers in Central Oregon?  Am deserting the antipodean summer and
> heading that way in mid-December for a month R_and_R, love to
> swap ideas
> and experiences.
>
> Stephen Bond
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 24 00:26:08 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 22:26:08 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] properties
In-Reply-To: <001401c4d1cc$9fb37b90$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIMEJACIAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi John:

I hope you are wrong and there is some other reason... If not what
version!!?

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 6:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] properties


I had a strange occurrence last night and I just wanted to check the list to
see if anyone has ever seen such a thing.

Windows XP / Office XP, I remoted in to a client site and started work on a
FE.  At some point I tried to compact / repair the db and got the old error
message that "the database could be renamed" and the copy was saved to db2.
I saved the original and then renamed db2 and continued work.  I did NOT
test editing / adding records etc.  The client was asked to test the changes
and came back very upset that two entire tabs of the form were "locked".  I
remoted in tonight and started poking around and sure enough all the
subforms (controls) on those two tabs have the enabled property set to no
which prevents even setting the focus into the subform.  Further all of the
"allow edits/deletions/additions" are set to no for the actual subforms
themselves.

My conjecture is that something happened at the point Access tried to close
the database to do the compact/repair or when it attempted to delete the
original and rename the compacted copy.  Given the damage I've found so far
I certainly don't trust the copy to continue work on.  Who knows what else
has been changed.

Has anyone ever seen such a thing happen?  I never have, but there are so
many properties changed that I have to think that Access somehow set these
properties at some point.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 24 00:26:08 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 22:26:08 -0800
Subject: [Accessd] OT
In-Reply-To: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F2908897B@server.bondsoftware.co.nz>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIOEJACIAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

See you....maybe. I will send you some details off-line, just in case.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stephen Bond
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 7:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [Accessd] OT


I have a cousin on the faculty of U Vic, last visited him in 1993.  We are
planning on visiting friends in Port Angeles, who knows what will happen
after that.  Thanks for the thought.

Stephen Bond

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
> Sent: Wednesday, 24 November 2004 2:15 p.m.
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [Accessd] OT
>
>
> Hi Steven:
>
> If you decide to wander North a bit to Lotus land, the
> Vancouver Island,
> Victoria, you can always drop in on myself and Marty
> Connelly. (He is a bit
> of a party animal but that is just a unsubstantiated rumor.)
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stephen Bond
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:57 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] OT
>
>
> Any listers in Central Oregon?  Am deserting the antipodean summer and
> heading that way in mid-December for a month R_and_R, love to
> swap ideas and
> experiences.
>
> Stephen Bond
>
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov 24 03:44:56 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:44:56 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] #Num!
Message-ID: <s1a46632.099@cactus.dk>

Hi John

In case you haven't found out yet, here is:

  wkb.SaveAs FileName:="d:\temp\test.csv", FileFormat:=xlCSV,
CreateBackup:=False

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 23-11-2004 15:07:48 >>>
I keep forgetting about this method.  I have never automated Excel to
save a
sheet as a csv.  Does anyone have working code to do this?

John W. Colby
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav
Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 7:42 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] #Num!


Hi John

That's not nice. Who makes such spreadsheets?

How about saving (via code) the worksheet to a text file (.csv) and
then
read this line by line validating the fields? Not very fancy, I know,
but
what options are left?

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 23-11-2004 13:10:09 >>>
I'm trying to import it into a temp table and get a "numeric overflow"
when
trying to do the append.  This even though I have converted ALL of the
fields to text.  The issue is coming from a date field with null in
the
first record (but dates in most of the rest).  



From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Wed Nov 24 06:45:57 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 07:45:57 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74486B82@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

I was hoping they'd move it out of Vegas next year.  It's been there twice in row now.  I wonder if the Baltimore agenda was as rich as the other.  Maybe it's still up their site.

Thanks,

Jim D.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 4:30 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version


Yup.  They did one in Baltimore Nov 1-3.  It will be back in Vegas next
year.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:39 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version


This was the Vegas event.  Did they do one in Baltimore?  I wish I'd have
known.

Jim D.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:26 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version


I knew I should have asked if anybody from AccessD was going to Baltimore.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 1:59 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version


I've been fighting with our network/hardware staff for weeks over SP2s
ability to break applications.  At the recent Advisor.com event Ken Getz's
demo was almost blown by SP2.  Lucky for him (and us) Alison Balter let him
copy his files to her machine w/o SP2 and they ran.

Here's a link to get you started into the hell that is SP2:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/security/productinfo/XPSP2/

HTH,

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 10:46 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version


I create run time versions of a program for manufacturers all over the
globe.  Mr. UK (he has a GREAT accent) is able to run the runtime created in
Access 2000 on his XP Professional 2002 SP1 installed that has Access
installed.

The other unit has XP home, SP2, with no Access.  The executable starts and
stops after five seconds.  Is there an issue with home, SP2, whatever,
running runtimes?

I am a bother today, aren't I?



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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Wed Nov 24 07:56:53 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 07:56:53 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something
In-Reply-To: <200411241251.iAOCp8L16300@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041124075614.012ae938@pop3.highstream.net>

I think the words to, too, and two would also have fit.

At 06:51 AM 11/24/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:04:18 -0500
>From: Arthur Fuller <artful at rogers.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Re: Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
>         Something
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <41A3D002.7080900 at rogers.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>No offence intended. It just happens to be one of the most vivid
>examples of the elasticity of English. For a less vulgar example,
>consider the word "cool" or as the young would have it, "kewl". You may
>well be right; I should perhaps have used that word instead. But my
>intent was not vulgarity but rather illumination on the elasticity of
>English. Apologies if I offended.
>
>Robert L. Stewart wrote:
>
> > Or as I have heard in Russia... Pamoika (which is the fragrant
> > liquid you see running from a dumpster) Arthur, I think your
> > choice of examples could have been a bit less expressive of
> > the vulgar.
> >
> > Robert




From JHewson at karta.com  Wed Nov 24 08:03:58 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 08:03:58 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
	Something
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068D0A@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>


Or their, there and they're.

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Stewart
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 7:57 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
Something


I think the words to, too, and two would also have fit.

At 06:51 AM 11/24/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:04:18 -0500
>From: Arthur Fuller <artful at rogers.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Re: Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
>         Something
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <41A3D002.7080900 at rogers.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>No offence intended. It just happens to be one of the most vivid
>examples of the elasticity of English. For a less vulgar example,
>consider the word "cool" or as the young would have it, "kewl". You may
>well be right; I should perhaps have used that word instead. But my
>intent was not vulgarity but rather illumination on the elasticity of
>English. Apologies if I offended.
>
>Robert L. Stewart wrote:
>
> > Or as I have heard in Russia... Pamoika (which is the fragrant
> > liquid you see running from a dumpster) Arthur, I think your
> > choice of examples could have been a bit less expressive of
> > the vulgar.
> >
> > Robert


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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Wed Nov 24 08:07:54 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 08:07:54 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
In-Reply-To: <19284598.1101263179516.JavaMail.root@sniper17.securence.com>
Message-ID: <000c01c4d22e$fe9f5540$de1811d8@danwaters>

John,

What mechanism or method do you use to remote in to a client's site?
I'm struggling with this now. 

Does anyone have recommendations or warnings about what works and what
doesn't?

Thanks!
Dan Waters
ProMation Systems



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] properties

I had a strange occurrence last night and I just wanted to check the
list to
see if anyone has ever seen such a thing.

Windows XP / Office XP, I remoted in to a client site and started work
on a
FE.  At some point I tried to compact / repair the db and got the old
error
message that "the database could be renamed" and the copy was saved to
db2.
I saved the original and then renamed db2 and continued work.  I did NOT
test editing / adding records etc.  The client was asked to test the
changes
and came back very upset that two entire tabs of the form were "locked".
I
remoted in tonight and started poking around and sure enough all the
subforms (controls) on those two tabs have the enabled property set to
no
which prevents even setting the focus into the subform.  Further all of
the
"allow edits/deletions/additions" are set to no for the actual subforms
themselves.

My conjecture is that something happened at the point Access tried to
close
the database to do the compact/repair or when it attempted to delete the
original and rename the compacted copy.  Given the damage I've found so
far
I certainly don't trust the copy to continue work on.  Who knows what
else
has been changed.

Has anyone ever seen such a thing happen?  I never have, but there are
so
many properties changed that I have to think that Access somehow set
these
properties at some point.

John W. Colby
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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 24 08:15:34 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 06:15:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Search for linked documents....IN TABLES....
In-Reply-To: <20041123130540.52003.qmail@web61105.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20041124141534.33810.qmail@web61105.mail.yahoo.com>

Can anybody please help me with this one?
Tips/links/articles any thing will do!!
 
Regrds,
sd

S D <accessd667 at yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi group,

it seemed that the users where not talking about linked tables but about linked documents in a table!

So I've got a table, this table has an oledb field in it. I found out how to search for this.
However, I now need to figure out how I can do the following:
1 - check if file is linked
2 - what type of file is linked (Word, Excel, etc)
3 - what is the version of the matching officeprogram (eg Word 97, Excell 2002)
4 - what is the location of the file
5 - what are the create, last modified, last opened date

Did anybody ever do something like this?
Does anybody know if there is some sort of object model that I can use for this eg like in Excell: Application => Workbook => worksheet, etc? 
Does anybody know to any tips on how to figure this out?! 

Thnx in advance!

Sander


S D wrote:
Have fun....haha..ha...hmmm I think we've got different ideas about fun 
Thnx for the, once again, great response.

Sander

Gustav Brock wrote:
Hi Sander

This is doable but not straight forward.

First, linked "documents" are treated as ISAM databases and tables. For
text and xBase and Paradox files, the directory is the "database" while
for Excel and Html the file is the database. Linked MAPI tables are even
more excotic so I will leave them for this. Linked ODBC tables are
complete different as they are identified by their connect strings.

Second, tables may be linked with other names than their true names.

This a query which will return all non-deleted links:

SELECT DISTINCT 
RTrim([Database]) AS DbsPath, 
MSysObjects.Connect, 
Hex(GetTableType([Flags])) AS TableType, 
MSysObjects.ForeignName, 
GetTrueForeignName(GetTableType([Flags]),[ForeignName]) AS
TrueForeignName, 
MSysObjects.Name AS LinkedName
FROM 
MSysObjects
WHERE 
(IsTablePresent([Flags])=True) 
AND 
(MSysObjects.Type=4 Or MSysObjects.Type=6);

It uses these supporting functions:



Declarations.

' Table types known.
'
' ODBC connection.
Private Const clngTableTypeNone As Long = &H0
' Note: MS MSDE/SQL Server has some higher bits set as well.
Private Const clngTableTypeOdbc As Long = &H100000
' Jet file attached by UNC name.
Private Const clngTableTypeJetUnc As Long = &H200000
' Jet file attached by mapped drive letter.
Private Const clngTableTypeJetDrive As Long = &H400000
Private Const clngTableTypeParadox As Long = &H700000
Private Const clngTableTypeDbase As Long = &H800000
Private Const clngTableTypeText As Long = &HA00000
Private Const clngTableTypeExcel As Long = &HB00000
Private Const clngTableTypeOutlook As Long = &HD00000
Private Const clngTableTypeHtml As Long = &HE00000

Public Function GetTrueForeignName( _
ByVal lngTableType As Long, _
ByVal strForeignName As String) _
As String

' Returns true foreign name for those ISAM table types
' where this is stored as an alias.
' Foreign names for other table types are not altered.
'
' Example Excel:
' Alias for worksheet: Sheet1$
' True name: Sheet1
' Example Paradox:
' Alias for table name: Pdoxfile#db
' True name: Pdoxfile.db
'
' 2004-05-10. Cactus Data ApS, CPH.

Const cstrSepDbase As String = "#"
Const cstrSepParadox As String = "#"
Const cstrSepText As String = "#"
Const cstrSepExcel As String = "$"
Const cstrRplExcel As String = vbNullString

Dim strTrueName As String
Dim lngPos As Long

Select Case lngTableType
Case clngTableTypeParadox
lngPos = InStr(strForeignName, cstrSepParadox)
If lngPos > 1 Then
strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, lngPos - 1)
Else
strTrueName = strForeignName
End If
Case clngTableTypeDbase
lngPos = InStr(strForeignName, cstrSepDbase)
If lngPos > 1 Then
strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, lngPos - 1)
Else
strTrueName = strForeignName
End If
Case clngTableTypeExcel
If Right(strForeignName, 1) = cstrSepExcel Then
' Worksheet. Strip traling "$".
strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, Len(strForeignName) - 1)
Else
' Named Range. Leave as is.
strTrueName = strForeignName
End If
Case clngTableTypeText
lngPos = InStr(strForeignName, cstrSepText)
If lngPos > 1 Then
strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, lngPos - 1)
Else
strTrueName = strForeignName
End If
Case Else
strTrueName = strForeignName
End Select

GetTrueForeignName = strTrueName

End Function

Public Function IsTablePresent( _
ByVal lngFlag As Long) _
As Boolean

' Returns True if a table is not flagged as deleted in MSysObjects.
' To be used in a query to extract currently attached tables.
'
' 2004-04-21. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.

Const clngFlagDeleted As Long = &H1001

Dim booDeleted As Boolean

booDeleted = lngFlag And clngFlagDeleted

IsTablePresent = Not booDeleted

End Function

Public Function GetTableType( _
ByVal lngFlag As Long) _
As Long

' Returns the table type from lngFlag in MSysObjects by rounding it to
' &H100000 which strips all minor flags including the hidden flag
(&H8)
' and all major flags - like &H20xxxxxx used by MS MSDE/SQL Server.
' To be used in a query to extract currently attached tables of a
specific type.
'
' 2004-04-21. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.

' Flag mask.
' Const clngFlagMajor As Long = &HFF000000
' Const clngFlagMinor As Long = &HFFFFF
Const clngFlagMask As Long = &HFF0FFFFF

Dim lngType As Long

lngType = lngFlag And Not clngFlagMask

GetTableType = lngType

End Function



Have fun!

/gustav

>>> accessd667 at yahoo.com 19-11-2004 14:57:55 >>>
Hi group,

I've got some code from the ADHB2K to search for linked tables.
However, it is also possible to link documents...office documents that
is. So I mean files with extions like:
.xls;
.txt;
etc

Q1: how can I search for these linked 'documents'?
Q2: how can I pinpoint the xls files from none xls files?

TIA

Sander

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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Wed Nov 24 07:18:57 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 14:18:57 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
Message-ID: <20041124141854.2A38C251E75@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Jeez what's this new verb "to remote in"? How does that decline? I remote
in, he remoted in, he/she/it will have been remoted in.... What's wromg with
using real words? ....grumble, grumble, grumble. Right, I'm going to
keyboard out of this email.

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--------- Original Message --------
From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
Date: 24/11/04 14:10

>
> John,
>
> What mechanism or method do you use to remote in to a client's site?
> I'm struggling with this now.
>
> Does anyone have recommendations or warnings about what works and what
> doesn't?
>
> Thanks!
> Dan Waters
> ProMation Systems
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:24 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] properties
>
> I had a strange occurrence last night and I just wanted to check the
> list to
> see if anyone has ever seen such a thing.
>
> Windows XP / Office XP, I remoted in to a client site and started work
> on a
> FE.  At some point I tried to compact / repair the db and got the old
> error
> message that &quot;the database could be renamed&quot; and the copy was
saved to
> db2.
> I saved the original and then renamed db2 and continued work.  I did NOT
> test editing / adding records etc.  The client was asked to test the
> changes
> and came back very upset that two entire tabs of the form were
&quot;locked&quot;.
> I
> remoted in tonight and started poking around and sure enough all the
> subforms (controls) on those two tabs have the enabled property set to
> no
> which prevents even setting the focus into the subform.  Further all of
> the
> &quot;allow edits/deletions/additions&quot; are set to no for the actual
subforms
> themselves.
>
> My conjecture is that something happened at the point Access tried to
> close
> the database to do the compact/repair or when it attempted to delete the
> original and rename the compacted copy.  Given the damage I've found so
> far
> I certainly don't trust the copy to continue work on.  Who knows what
> else
> has been changed.
>
> Has anyone ever seen such a thing happen?  I never have, but there are
> so
> many properties changed that I have to think that Access somehow set
> these
> properties at some point.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Wed Nov 24 08:31:13 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 08:31:13 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
In-Reply-To: <7198649.1101306110365.JavaMail.root@sniper18.securence.com>
Message-ID: <000d01c4d232$40363a70$de1811d8@danwaters>

Andy,

We talked about how flexible the English language is during the 'English
or Spanish or Something' discussion.  

<grin>

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 7:19 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)

Jeez what's this new verb "to remote in"? How does that decline? I
remote
in, he remoted in, he/she/it will have been remoted in.... What's wromg
with
using real words? ....grumble, grumble, grumble. Right, I'm going to
keyboard out of this email.

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--------- Original Message --------
From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
Date: 24/11/04 14:10

>
> John,
>
> What mechanism or method do you use to remote in to a client's site?
> I'm struggling with this now.
>
> Does anyone have recommendations or warnings about what works and what
> doesn't?
>
> Thanks!
> Dan Waters
> ProMation Systems
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W.
Colby
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:24 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] properties
>
> I had a strange occurrence last night and I just wanted to check the
> list to
> see if anyone has ever seen such a thing.
>
> Windows XP / Office XP, I remoted in to a client site and started work
> on a
> FE.  At some point I tried to compact / repair the db and got the old
> error
> message that &quot;the database could be renamed&quot; and the copy
was
saved to
> db2.
> I saved the original and then renamed db2 and continued work.  I did
NOT
> test editing / adding records etc.  The client was asked to test the
> changes
> and came back very upset that two entire tabs of the form were
&quot;locked&quot;.
> I
> remoted in tonight and started poking around and sure enough all the
> subforms (controls) on those two tabs have the enabled property set to
> no
> which prevents even setting the focus into the subform.  Further all
of
> the
> &quot;allow edits/deletions/additions&quot; are set to no for the
actual
subforms
> themselves.
>
> My conjecture is that something happened at the point Access tried to
> close
> the database to do the compact/repair or when it attempted to delete
the
> original and rename the compacted copy.  Given the damage I've found
so
> far
> I certainly don't trust the copy to continue work on.  Who knows what
> else
> has been changed.
>
> Has anyone ever seen such a thing happen?  I never have, but there are
> so
> many properties changed that I have to think that Access somehow set
> these
> properties at some point.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Wed Nov 24 07:44:39 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 14:44:39 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
Message-ID: <20041124144436.197CE25D223@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

This isn't flexible, this is broken (snapped, bust, fractured, ....)

<exit left muttering to himself about standards, world not being what it
used to be, and other old fart favourites>

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--------- Original Message --------
From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
Date: 24/11/04 14:34

>
> Andy,
>
> We talked about how flexible the English language is during the 'English
> or Spanish or Something' discussion.
>
> &lt;grin&gt;
>
> Dan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 7:19 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
>
> Jeez what's this new verb &quot;to remote in&quot;? How does that decline?
I
> remote
> in, he remoted in, he/she/it will have been remoted in.... What's wromg
> with
> using real words? ....grumble, grumble, grumble. Right, I'm going to
> keyboard out of this email.
>
> --
> Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>
>
>
> --------- Original Message --------
> From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> &lt;accessd at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> &lt;accessd at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
> Date: 24/11/04 14:10
>
> &gt;
> &gt; John,
> &gt;
> &gt; What mechanism or method do you use to remote in to a client's site?
> &gt; I'm struggling with this now.
> &gt;
> &gt; Does anyone have recommendations or warnings about what works and
what
> &gt; doesn't?
> &gt;
> &gt; Thanks!
> &gt; Dan Waters
> &gt; ProMation Systems
> &gt;
> &gt;
> &gt;
> &gt; -----Original Message-----
> &gt; From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> &gt; [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W.
> Colby
> &gt; Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:24 PM
> &gt; To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> &gt; Subject: [AccessD] properties
> &gt;
> &gt; I had a strange occurrence last night and I just wanted to check the
> &gt; list to
> &gt; see if anyone has ever seen such a thing.
> &gt;
> &gt; Windows XP / Office XP, I remoted in to a client site and started
work
> &gt; on a
> &gt; FE.  At some point I tried to compact / repair the db and got the old
> &gt; error
> &gt; message that &amp;quot;the database could be renamed&amp;quot; and
the copy
> was
> saved to
> &gt; db2.
> &gt; I saved the original and then renamed db2 and continued work.  I did
> NOT
> &gt; test editing / adding records etc.  The client was asked to test the
> &gt; changes
> &gt; and came back very upset that two entire tabs of the form were
> &amp;quot;locked&amp;quot;.
> &gt; I
> &gt; remoted in tonight and started poking around and sure enough all the
> &gt; subforms (controls) on those two tabs have the enabled property set
to
> &gt; no
> &gt; which prevents even setting the focus into the subform.  Further all
> of
> &gt; the
> &gt; &amp;quot;allow edits/deletions/additions&amp;quot; are set to no for
the
> actual
> subforms
> &gt; themselves.
> &gt;
> &gt; My conjecture is that something happened at the point Access tried to
> &gt; close
> &gt; the database to do the compact/repair or when it attempted to delete
> the
> &gt; original and rename the compacted copy.  Given the damage I've found
> so
> &gt; far
> &gt; I certainly don't trust the copy to continue work on.  Who knows what
> &gt; else
> &gt; has been changed.
> &gt;
> &gt; Has anyone ever seen such a thing happen?  I never have, but there
are
> &gt; so
> &gt; many properties changed that I have to think that Access somehow set
> &gt; these
> &gt; properties at some point.
> &gt;
> &gt; John W. Colby
> &gt; www.ColbyConsulting.com
> &gt;
> &gt; Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> &gt; http://folding.stanford.edu/
> &gt;
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From Subscriptions at servicexp.com  Wed Nov 24 08:53:55 2004
From: Subscriptions at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 09:53:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] properties
In-Reply-To: <001401c4d1cc$9fb37b90$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAkFctmauQHEapbETsA84PTMKAAAAQAAAADaRONWCYaE6drMu9JUHdfwEAAAAA@servicexp.com>

Hello John,
 Does your code in anyway manipulate those properties during runtime, and if
so, does your code check for the property state at the forms start up? 

 I say this because when your move to design mode, and make changes and save
the form, the new property settings have a habit of getting saved also. 

I run into this situation often.

Robert Gracie

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 9:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] properties

I had a strange occurrence last night and I just wanted to check the list to
see if anyone has ever seen such a thing.

Windows XP / Office XP, I remoted in to a client site and started work on a
FE.  At some point I tried to compact / repair the db and got the old error
message that "the database could be renamed" and the copy was saved to db2.
I saved the original and then renamed db2 and continued work.  I did NOT
test editing / adding records etc.  The client was asked to test the changes
and came back very upset that two entire tabs of the form were "locked".  I
remoted in tonight and started poking around and sure enough all the
subforms (controls) on those two tabs have the enabled property set to no
which prevents even setting the focus into the subform.  Further all of the
"allow edits/deletions/additions" are set to no for the actual subforms
themselves.

My conjecture is that something happened at the point Access tried to close
the database to do the compact/repair or when it attempted to delete the
original and rename the compacted copy.  Given the damage I've found so far
I certainly don't trust the copy to continue work on.  Who knows what else
has been changed.

Has anyone ever seen such a thing happen?  I never have, but there are so
many properties changed that I have to think that Access somehow set these
properties at some point.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Wed Nov 24 08:55:45 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 09:55:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F3399C@nprdex02.nns.com>

Yep...Google it up;)))))


Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 9:31 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)


Andy,

We talked about how flexible the English language is during the 'English
or Spanish or Something' discussion.  

<grin>

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 7:19 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)

Jeez what's this new verb "to remote in"? How does that decline? I
remote
in, he remoted in, he/she/it will have been remoted in.... What's wromg
with
using real words? ....grumble, grumble, grumble. Right, I'm going to
keyboard out of this email.

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--------- Original Message --------
From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
Date: 24/11/04 14:10

>
> John,
>
> What mechanism or method do you use to remote in to a client's site?
> I'm struggling with this now.
>
> Does anyone have recommendations or warnings about what works and what
> doesn't?
>
> Thanks!
> Dan Waters
> ProMation Systems
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W.
Colby
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:24 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] properties
>
> I had a strange occurrence last night and I just wanted to check the
> list to
> see if anyone has ever seen such a thing.
>
> Windows XP / Office XP, I remoted in to a client site and started work
> on a
> FE.  At some point I tried to compact / repair the db and got the old
> error
> message that &quot;the database could be renamed&quot; and the copy
was
saved to
> db2.
> I saved the original and then renamed db2 and continued work.  I did
NOT
> test editing / adding records etc.  The client was asked to test the
> changes
> and came back very upset that two entire tabs of the form were
&quot;locked&quot;.
> I
> remoted in tonight and started poking around and sure enough all the
> subforms (controls) on those two tabs have the enabled property set to
> no
> which prevents even setting the focus into the subform.  Further all
of
> the
> &quot;allow edits/deletions/additions&quot; are set to no for the
actual
subforms
> themselves.
>
> My conjecture is that something happened at the point Access tried to
> close
> the database to do the compact/repair or when it attempted to delete
the
> original and rename the compacted copy.  Given the damage I've found
so
> far
> I certainly don't trust the copy to continue work on.  Who knows what
> else
> has been changed.
>
> Has anyone ever seen such a thing happen?  I never have, but there are
> so
> many properties changed that I have to think that Access somehow set
> these
> properties at some point.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>
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From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Wed Nov 24 09:34:39 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Steve Conklin (Developer@UltraDNT))
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:34:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
In-Reply-To: <000c01c4d22e$fe9f5540$de1811d8@danwaters>
Message-ID: <002401c4d23b$1d02c240$0200a8c0@COA3>

Good old pcAnywhere does alright via TCPIP over broadband, fast enough
to do design work on the host (need a copy on both PC's however).
GoToMyPC is my other choice, works on any PC with an Internet
connection; good for file tranfers that are too large for email servers,
but a bit slow for development but its outstanding to "dial home" to
check email from anywhere.

Hth
Steve


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 9:08 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)


John,

What mechanism or method do you use to remote in to a client's site? I'm
struggling with this now. 

Does anyone have recommendations or warnings about what works and what
doesn't?

Thanks!
Dan Waters
ProMation Systems



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] properties

I had a strange occurrence last night and I just wanted to check the
list to see if anyone has ever seen such a thing.

Windows XP / Office XP, I remoted in to a client site and started work
on a FE.  At some point I tried to compact / repair the db and got the
old error message that "the database could be renamed" and the copy was
saved to db2. I saved the original and then renamed db2 and continued
work.  I did NOT test editing / adding records etc.  The client was
asked to test the changes and came back very upset that two entire tabs
of the form were "locked". I remoted in tonight and started poking
around and sure enough all the subforms (controls) on those two tabs
have the enabled property set to no which prevents even setting the
focus into the subform.  Further all of the "allow
edits/deletions/additions" are set to no for the actual subforms
themselves.

My conjecture is that something happened at the point Access tried to
close the database to do the compact/repair or when it attempted to
delete the original and rename the compacted copy.  Given the damage
I've found so far I certainly don't trust the copy to continue work on.
Who knows what else has been changed.

Has anyone ever seen such a thing happen?  I never have, but there are
so many properties changed that I have to think that Access somehow set
these properties at some point.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From GregSmith at starband.net  Wed Nov 24 09:41:45 2004
From: GregSmith at starband.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 09:41:45 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD] properties
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Message-ID: <1368.65.118.249.206.1101310905.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>

John:

I've had this happen before, with A97, A2k and A2003.  I thought
originally it was just A97...and I still have no clue as to why it does
it.  Just occasionally it won't replace the original...the computer is
having a "bit phart" or something.  Any time that it happens, I throw out
both the original I was working on (hopefully backed up... before the
compact/repair) and what it generated and start the process over with a
fresh copy.  I close out of Access (whatever version I was using at the
time...) and sometimes, reboot the computer I was on before trying it
again.  By doing this, I've not run into what you've described because
I've not kept the 'questionable' copy.  And that's exactly why I do all of
this so I don't have the app in some condition that's questionable.

As for 'remoting in', ummm, hmmm, "I use RDC to connect ..."...:) that way
I don't add any new words to the English language...and it doesn't NEED
any new ones...LOL.

Greg Smith
gregsmith at starband.net

> Hello John,
>  Does your code in anyway manipulate those properties during runtime,
> and if
> so, does your code check for the property state at the forms start up?
>
>  I say this because when your move to design mode, and make changes and
> save
> the form, the new property settings have a habit of getting saved also.
>
> I run into this situation often.
>
> Robert Gracie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 9:24 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] properties
>
> I had a strange occurrence last night and I just wanted to check the
> list to see if anyone has ever seen such a thing.
>
> Windows XP / Office XP, I remoted in to a client site and started work
> on a FE.  At some point I tried to compact / repair the db and got the
> old error message that "the database could be renamed" and the copy was
> saved to db2. I saved the original and then renamed db2 and continued
> work.  I did NOT test editing / adding records etc.  The client was
> asked to test the changes and came back very upset that two entire tabs
> of the form were "locked".  I remoted in tonight and started poking
> around and sure enough all the subforms (controls) on those two tabs
> have the enabled property set to no which prevents even setting the
> focus into the subform.  Further all of the "allow
> edits/deletions/additions" are set to no for the actual subforms
> themselves.
>
> My conjecture is that something happened at the point Access tried to
> close the database to do the compact/repair or when it attempted to
> delete the original and rename the compacted copy.  Given the damage
> I've found so far I certainly don't trust the copy to continue work on.
> Who knows what else has been changed.
>
> Has anyone ever seen such a thing happen?  I never have, but there are
> so many properties changed that I have to think that Access somehow set
> these properties at some point.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
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> http://folding.stanford.edu/
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Nov 24 09:42:06 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:42:06 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
In-Reply-To: <20041124141854.2A38C251E75@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <000801c4d23c$2bd226c0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Lol.  Following your logic we would have NO words because someone had to
make up a word to fit a noun / verb.  There is nothing wrong with using
"Remote in" to replace a paragraph describing the process in excruciating
detail so that the person understands that you remoted in.  ;-)

I remoted in

Or

I used remote desktop to connect to my client's computer...

I think I will remote in thanks!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 8:19 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)


Jeez what's this new verb "to remote in"? How does that decline? I remote
in, he remoted in, he/she/it will have been remoted in.... What's wromg with
using real words? ....grumble, grumble, grumble. Right, I'm going to
keyboard out of this email.

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--------- Original Message --------
From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
Date: 24/11/04 14:10

>
> John,
>
> What mechanism or method do you use to remote in to a client's site? 
> I'm struggling with this now.
>
> Does anyone have recommendations or warnings about what works and what 
> doesn't?
>
> Thanks!
> Dan Waters
> ProMation Systems
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. 
> Colby
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:24 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] properties
>
> I had a strange occurrence last night and I just wanted to check the 
> list to see if anyone has ever seen such a thing.
>
> Windows XP / Office XP, I remoted in to a client site and started work 
> on a FE.  At some point I tried to compact / repair the db and got the 
> old error
> message that &quot;the database could be renamed&quot; and the copy was
saved to
> db2.
> I saved the original and then renamed db2 and continued work.  I did 
> NOT test editing / adding records etc.  The client was asked to test 
> the changes and came back very upset that two entire tabs of the form 
> were
&quot;locked&quot;.
> I
> remoted in tonight and started poking around and sure enough all the 
> subforms (controls) on those two tabs have the enabled property set to 
> no which prevents even setting the focus into the subform.  Further 
> all of the
> &quot;allow edits/deletions/additions&quot; are set to no for the actual
subforms
> themselves.
>
> My conjecture is that something happened at the point Access tried to 
> close the database to do the compact/repair or when it attempted to 
> delete the original and rename the compacted copy.  Given the damage 
> I've found so far
> I certainly don't trust the copy to continue work on.  Who knows what
> else
> has been changed.
>
> Has anyone ever seen such a thing happen?  I never have, but there are 
> so many properties changed that I have to think that Access somehow 
> set these
> properties at some point.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Nov 24 09:43:28 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:43:28 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
In-Reply-To: <000c01c4d22e$fe9f5540$de1811d8@danwaters>
Message-ID: <000901c4d23c$5cca2980$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

I use the remote desktop built in to windows XP.  It's really pretty simple,
the biggest issue is to insure that it is started as a service on the target
desktop, then that ports are opened on the target router to allow them in.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 9:08 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)


John,

What mechanism or method do you use to remote in to a client's site? I'm
struggling with this now. 

Does anyone have recommendations or warnings about what works and what
doesn't?

Thanks!
Dan Waters
ProMation Systems



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] properties

I had a strange occurrence last night and I just wanted to check the list to
see if anyone has ever seen such a thing.

Windows XP / Office XP, I remoted in to a client site and started work on a
FE.  At some point I tried to compact / repair the db and got the old error
message that "the database could be renamed" and the copy was saved to db2.
I saved the original and then renamed db2 and continued work.  I did NOT
test editing / adding records etc.  The client was asked to test the changes
and came back very upset that two entire tabs of the form were "locked". I
remoted in tonight and started poking around and sure enough all the
subforms (controls) on those two tabs have the enabled property set to no
which prevents even setting the focus into the subform.  Further all of the
"allow edits/deletions/additions" are set to no for the actual subforms
themselves.

My conjecture is that something happened at the point Access tried to close
the database to do the compact/repair or when it attempted to delete the
original and rename the compacted copy.  Given the damage I've found so far
I certainly don't trust the copy to continue work on.  Who knows what else
has been changed.

Has anyone ever seen such a thing happen?  I never have, but there are so
many properties changed that I have to think that Access somehow set these
properties at some point.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Nov 24 09:44:06 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:44:06 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] #Num!
In-Reply-To: <s1a46632.099@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <000a01c4d23c$6e774f00$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Cool, thanks!

John W. Colby
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 4:45 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] #Num!


Hi John

In case you haven't found out yet, here is:

  wkb.SaveAs FileName:="d:\temp\test.csv", FileFormat:=xlCSV,
CreateBackup:=False

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 23-11-2004 15:07:48 >>>
I keep forgetting about this method.  I have never automated Excel to save a
sheet as a csv.  Does anyone have working code to do this?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 7:42 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] #Num!


Hi John

That's not nice. Who makes such spreadsheets?

How about saving (via code) the worksheet to a text file (.csv) and then
read this line by line validating the fields? Not very fancy, I know, but
what options are left?

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 23-11-2004 13:10:09 >>>
I'm trying to import it into a temp table and get a "numeric overflow" when
trying to do the append.  This even though I have converted ALL of the
fields to text.  The issue is coming from a date field with null in the
first record (but dates in most of the rest).  

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From jmoss111 at bellsouth.net  Wed Nov 24 09:48:30 2004
From: jmoss111 at bellsouth.net (jmoss111 at bellsouth.net)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:48:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
Message-ID: <20041124154829.DTNE1980.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net>

RAdmin is the fastest remote product that I've used. And PlanetDNS is similar to GoTopMyPC but maybe a little faster and much cheaper.

JM
> 
> From: "Steve Conklin \(Developer at UltraDNT\)" <Developer at UltraDNT.com>
> Date: 2004/11/24 Wed AM 10:34:39 EST
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> 	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
> 
> Good old pcAnywhere does alright via TCPIP over broadband, fast enough
> to do design work on the host (need a copy on both PC's however).
> GoToMyPC is my other choice, works on any PC with an Internet
> connection; good for file tranfers that are too large for email servers,
> but a bit slow for development but its outstanding to "dial home" to
> check email from anywhere.
> 
> Hth
> Steve
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 9:08 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
> 
> 
> John,
> 
> What mechanism or method do you use to remote in to a client's site? I'm
> struggling with this now. 
> 
> Does anyone have recommendations or warnings about what works and what
> doesn't?
> 
> Thanks!
> Dan Waters
> ProMation Systems
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:24 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] properties
> 
> I had a strange occurrence last night and I just wanted to check the
> list to see if anyone has ever seen such a thing.
> 
> Windows XP / Office XP, I remoted in to a client site and started work
> on a FE.  At some point I tried to compact / repair the db and got the
> old error message that "the database could be renamed" and the copy was
> saved to db2. I saved the original and then renamed db2 and continued
> work.  I did NOT test editing / adding records etc.  The client was
> asked to test the changes and came back very upset that two entire tabs
> of the form were "locked". I remoted in tonight and started poking
> around and sure enough all the subforms (controls) on those two tabs
> have the enabled property set to no which prevents even setting the
> focus into the subform.  Further all of the "allow
> edits/deletions/additions" are set to no for the actual subforms
> themselves.
> 
> My conjecture is that something happened at the point Access tried to
> close the database to do the compact/repair or when it attempted to
> delete the original and rename the compacted copy.  Given the damage
> I've found so far I certainly don't trust the copy to continue work on.
> Who knows what else has been changed.
> 
> Has anyone ever seen such a thing happen?  I never have, but there are
> so many properties changed that I have to think that Access somehow set
> these properties at some point.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com 
> 
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
> 
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From john at winhaven.net  Wed Nov 24 09:50:43 2004
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 09:50:43 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
In-Reply-To: <000c01c4d22e$fe9f5540$de1811d8@danwaters>
Message-ID: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKIKEFFGDAA.john@winhaven.net>

Gustav just pointed me to NetOP (http://www.crossteccorp.com/) which is
really fast. Just bought a license.

Thanks Again Gustav!

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 8:08 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)


John,

What mechanism or method do you use to remote in to a client's site?
I'm struggling with this now.

Does anyone have recommendations or warnings about what works and what
doesn't?

Thanks!
Dan Waters
ProMation Systems



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] properties

I had a strange occurrence last night and I just wanted to check the
list to
see if anyone has ever seen such a thing.

Windows XP / Office XP, I remoted in to a client site and started work
on a
FE.  At some point I tried to compact / repair the db and got the old
error
message that "the database could be renamed" and the copy was saved to
db2.
I saved the original and then renamed db2 and continued work.  I did NOT
test editing / adding records etc.  The client was asked to test the
changes
and came back very upset that two entire tabs of the form were "locked".
I
remoted in tonight and started poking around and sure enough all the
subforms (controls) on those two tabs have the enabled property set to
no
which prevents even setting the focus into the subform.  Further all of
the
"allow edits/deletions/additions" are set to no for the actual subforms
themselves.

My conjecture is that something happened at the point Access tried to
close
the database to do the compact/repair or when it attempted to delete the
original and rename the compacted copy.  Given the damage I've found so
far
I certainly don't trust the copy to continue work on.  Who knows what
else
has been changed.

Has anyone ever seen such a thing happen?  I never have, but there are
so
many properties changed that I have to think that Access somehow set
these
properties at some point.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Nov 24 09:56:53 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 09:56:53 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D0CC@main2.marlow.com>

I recommend Remote Administrator	http://www.famatech.com

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 8:08 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)


John,

What mechanism or method do you use to remote in to a client's site?
I'm struggling with this now. 

Does anyone have recommendations or warnings about what works and what
doesn't?

Thanks!
Dan Waters
ProMation Systems



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] properties

I had a strange occurrence last night and I just wanted to check the
list to
see if anyone has ever seen such a thing.

Windows XP / Office XP, I remoted in to a client site and started work
on a
FE.  At some point I tried to compact / repair the db and got the old
error
message that "the database could be renamed" and the copy was saved to
db2.
I saved the original and then renamed db2 and continued work.  I did NOT
test editing / adding records etc.  The client was asked to test the
changes
and came back very upset that two entire tabs of the form were "locked".
I
remoted in tonight and started poking around and sure enough all the
subforms (controls) on those two tabs have the enabled property set to
no
which prevents even setting the focus into the subform.  Further all of
the
"allow edits/deletions/additions" are set to no for the actual subforms
themselves.

My conjecture is that something happened at the point Access tried to
close
the database to do the compact/repair or when it attempted to delete the
original and rename the compacted copy.  Given the damage I've found so
far
I certainly don't trust the copy to continue work on.  Who knows what
else
has been changed.

Has anyone ever seen such a thing happen?  I never have, but there are
so
many properties changed that I have to think that Access somehow set
these
properties at some point.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov 24 10:33:31 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 17:33:31 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
Message-ID: <s1a4c604.018@cactus.dk>

OK John, you are welcome.

The nice thing with NetOp is that it can find its way through any
corparate firewall and security system - a drawing at their site
illustrates this fine.

/gustav

>>> john at winhaven.net 24-11-2004 16:50:43 >>>
Gustav just pointed me to NetOP (http://www.crossteccorp.com/) which
is
really fast. Just bought a license.

Thanks Again Gustav!

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Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 8:08 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)


John,

What mechanism or method do you use to remote in to a client's site?
I'm struggling with this now.

Does anyone have recommendations or warnings about what works and what
doesn't?

Thanks!
Dan Waters
ProMation Systems



From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Wed Nov 24 11:27:12 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 12:27:12 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] I Have Lost my Property!!
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C46D@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

Name, Modified, Created, Type.... Where did my properties column go in
database design?  XP version.  I am beginning to not like XP.  Any
suggestions?


From john at winhaven.net  Wed Nov 24 11:48:23 2004
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 11:48:23 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D0CC@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKIOEFHGDAA.john@winhaven.net>

Drew:
Do you have any issues with the firewall/gateway/proxy server?

John B.

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Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 9:57 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)


I recommend Remote Administrator	http://www.famatech.com

Drew

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From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 8:08 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)


John,

What mechanism or method do you use to remote in to a client's site?
I'm struggling with this now. 

Does anyone have recommendations or warnings about what works and what
doesn't?

Thanks!
Dan Waters
ProMation Systems



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] properties

I had a strange occurrence last night and I just wanted to check the
list to
see if anyone has ever seen such a thing.

Windows XP / Office XP, I remoted in to a client site and started work
on a
FE.  At some point I tried to compact / repair the db and got the old
error
message that "the database could be renamed" and the copy was saved to
db2.
I saved the original and then renamed db2 and continued work.  I did NOT
test editing / adding records etc.  The client was asked to test the
changes
and came back very upset that two entire tabs of the form were "locked".
I
remoted in tonight and started poking around and sure enough all the
subforms (controls) on those two tabs have the enabled property set to
no
which prevents even setting the focus into the subform.  Further all of
the
"allow edits/deletions/additions" are set to no for the actual subforms
themselves.

My conjecture is that something happened at the point Access tried to
close
the database to do the compact/repair or when it attempted to delete the
original and rename the compacted copy.  Given the damage I've found so
far
I certainly don't trust the copy to continue work on.  Who knows what
else
has been changed.

Has anyone ever seen such a thing happen?  I never have, but there are
so
many properties changed that I have to think that Access somehow set
these
properties at some point.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 24 12:22:16 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:22:16 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
In-Reply-To: <000901c4d23c$5cca2980$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIKEJICIAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

XP Remote in needs port 3389 open.

Remotely yours
Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 7:43 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)


I use the remote desktop built in to windows XP.  It's really pretty simple,
the biggest issue is to insure that it is started as a service on the target
desktop, then that ports are opened on the target router to allow them in.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 9:08 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)


John,

What mechanism or method do you use to remote in to a client's site? I'm
struggling with this now.

Does anyone have recommendations or warnings about what works and what
doesn't?

Thanks!
Dan Waters
ProMation Systems



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] properties

I had a strange occurrence last night and I just wanted to check the list to
see if anyone has ever seen such a thing.

Windows XP / Office XP, I remoted in to a client site and started work on a
FE.  At some point I tried to compact / repair the db and got the old error
message that "the database could be renamed" and the copy was saved to db2.
I saved the original and then renamed db2 and continued work.  I did NOT
test editing / adding records etc.  The client was asked to test the changes
and came back very upset that two entire tabs of the form were "locked". I
remoted in tonight and started poking around and sure enough all the
subforms (controls) on those two tabs have the enabled property set to no
which prevents even setting the focus into the subform.  Further all of the
"allow edits/deletions/additions" are set to no for the actual subforms
themselves.

My conjecture is that something happened at the point Access tried to close
the database to do the compact/repair or when it attempted to delete the
original and rename the compacted copy.  Given the damage I've found so far
I certainly don't trust the copy to continue work on.  Who knows what else
has been changed.

Has anyone ever seen such a thing happen?  I never have, but there are so
many properties changed that I have to think that Access somehow set these
properties at some point.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Nov 24 12:41:21 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 13:41:21 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
	Something
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20041124075614.012ae938@pop3.highstream.net>
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20041124075614.012ae938@pop3.highstream.net>
Message-ID: <41A4D5D1.4020508@rogers.com>

That is no indication of the elasticity of language; it's simply a case 
of homonyms.

Robert L. Stewart wrote:

> I think the words to, too, and two would also have fit.
>
> At 06:51 AM 11/24/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>
>> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:04:18 -0500
>> From: Arthur Fuller <artful at rogers.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Re: Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
>>         Something
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Message-ID: <41A3D002.7080900 at rogers.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> No offence intended. It just happens to be one of the most vivid
>> examples of the elasticity of English. For a less vulgar example,
>> consider the word "cool" or as the young would have it, "kewl". You may
>> well be right; I should perhaps have used that word instead. But my
>> intent was not vulgarity but rather illumination on the elasticity of
>> English. Apologies if I offended.
>>
>> Robert L. Stewart wrote:
>>
>> > Or as I have heard in Russia... Pamoika (which is the fragrant
>> > liquid you see running from a dumpster) Arthur, I think your
>> > choice of examples could have been a bit less expressive of
>> > the vulgar.
>> >
>> > Robert
>
>
>


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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Wed Nov 24 12:53:32 2004
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 13:53:32 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] I Have Lost my Property!!
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A285A@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Try resizing the Name column by dragging the vertical line between columns.
It should then reveal the hidden 'Description' (not 'Properties') column.

You'll need to drag from the right side of the line, not the left. 

BTW, exactly the same thing hastens in Access 97, so don't blame XP :-)

Lambert


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen
> Sent:	Wednesday, November 24, 2004 12:27 PM
> To:	accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject:	[AccessD] I Have Lost my Property!!
> 
> Name, Modified, Created, Type.... Where did my properties column go in
> database design?  XP version.  I am beginning to not like XP.  Any
> suggestions?
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Nov 24 13:06:44 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 13:06:44 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D0CE@main2.marlow.com>

No.  Remote Admin can act as it's own router (for other Remote Admin
sessions).  So you just have to make one computer with the Remote Admin
Server on it 'visible' to the internet (on whatever port you use, which is
customizable).  Then if you want to connect to an internal computer, you
'route' through that server to get to anything in house.

What I like about Remote Admin is that it is very lightweight, extremely
fast (works very well even over a dialup), and it does use NT Security if
you want it too.

They are working on version 3 (which is in beta).  It has a lot of features
that I have wanted, which will really make it the absolute top grade Remote
software out there.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 11:48 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)


Drew:
Do you have any issues with the firewall/gateway/proxy server?

John B.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 9:57 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)


I recommend Remote Administrator	http://www.famatech.com

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 8:08 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)


John,

What mechanism or method do you use to remote in to a client's site?
I'm struggling with this now. 

Does anyone have recommendations or warnings about what works and what
doesn't?

Thanks!
Dan Waters
ProMation Systems



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] properties

I had a strange occurrence last night and I just wanted to check the
list to
see if anyone has ever seen such a thing.

Windows XP / Office XP, I remoted in to a client site and started work
on a
FE.  At some point I tried to compact / repair the db and got the old
error
message that "the database could be renamed" and the copy was saved to
db2.
I saved the original and then renamed db2 and continued work.  I did NOT
test editing / adding records etc.  The client was asked to test the
changes
and came back very upset that two entire tabs of the form were "locked".
I
remoted in tonight and started poking around and sure enough all the
subforms (controls) on those two tabs have the enabled property set to
no
which prevents even setting the focus into the subform.  Further all of
the
"allow edits/deletions/additions" are set to no for the actual subforms
themselves.

My conjecture is that something happened at the point Access tried to
close
the database to do the compact/repair or when it attempted to delete the
original and rename the compacted copy.  Given the damage I've found so
far
I certainly don't trust the copy to continue work on.  Who knows what
else
has been changed.

Has anyone ever seen such a thing happen?  I never have, but there are
so
many properties changed that I have to think that Access somehow set
these
properties at some point.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Wed Nov 24 15:01:44 2004
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 13:01:44 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D0CE@main2.marlow.com>
References: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D0CE@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <b874372a041124130141070df9@mail.gmail.com>

for customer support, I like using Ultr at Vnc

Cost: free

I have the end user install, and then send me their connection by
right clicking the icon and click on 'add new client' then they just
type my URL and BOOM! it's all done... no need for pwds or fidling w/
Company Networks.

it IS fast over DSL 128k up.  the only problem is that you must ask
them to install the software themselves.  but since you don't have to
ask for any changes to their firewall it works so easily :) sorta like
a gotomypc except they send you their screen.

plus w/ Ultr at VNC you can FTP files over when you need to and it sports
a chat client... also very nice. nothing like IM, but hey it works.


On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 13:06:44 -0600, dwutka at marlow.com <dwutka at marlow.com> wrote:
> No.  Remote Admin can act as it's own router (for other Remote Admin
> sessions).  So you just have to make one computer with the Remote Admin
> Server on it 'visible' to the internet (on whatever port you use, which is
> customizable).  Then if you want to connect to an internal computer, you
> 'route' through that server to get to anything in house.
> 
> What I like about Remote Admin is that it is very lightweight, extremely
> fast (works very well even over a dialup), and it does use NT Security if
> you want it too.
> 
> They are working on version 3 (which is in beta).  It has a lot of features
> that I have wanted, which will really make it the absolute top grade Remote
> software out there.
> 
> Drew
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 11:48 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
> 
> Drew:
> Do you have any issues with the firewall/gateway/proxy server?
> 
> John B.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
> DWUTKA at marlow.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 9:57 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
> 
> I recommend Remote Administrator        http://www.famatech.com
> 
> Drew
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 8:08 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
> 
> John,
> 
> What mechanism or method do you use to remote in to a client's site?
> I'm struggling with this now.
> 
> Does anyone have recommendations or warnings about what works and what
> doesn't?
> 
> Thanks!
> Dan Waters
> ProMation Systems
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:24 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] properties
> 
> I had a strange occurrence last night and I just wanted to check the
> list to
> see if anyone has ever seen such a thing.
> 
> Windows XP / Office XP, I remoted in to a client site and started work
> on a
> FE.  At some point I tried to compact / repair the db and got the old
> error
> message that "the database could be renamed" and the copy was saved to
> db2.
> I saved the original and then renamed db2 and continued work.  I did NOT
> test editing / adding records etc.  The client was asked to test the
> changes
> and came back very upset that two entire tabs of the form were "locked".
> I
> remoted in tonight and started poking around and sure enough all the
> subforms (controls) on those two tabs have the enabled property set to
> no
> which prevents even setting the focus into the subform.  Further all of
> the
> "allow edits/deletions/additions" are set to no for the actual subforms
> themselves.
> 
> My conjecture is that something happened at the point Access tried to
> close
> the database to do the compact/repair or when it attempted to delete the
> original and rename the compacted copy.  Given the damage I've found so
> far
> I certainly don't trust the copy to continue work on.  Who knows what
> else
> has been changed.
> 
> Has anyone ever seen such a thing happen?  I never have, but there are
> so
> many properties changed that I have to think that Access somehow set
> these
> properties at some point.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
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From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk  Thu Nov 25 02:50:05 2004
From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 08:50:05 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Som
	ething
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318805CED83B@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Anything that's spelt differently is no problem for text translation, only
aural translation. So I don't think those *would* work! 

Right (correct) and right (hand) and free (at liberty) and free (gratuit)
are the only ones I can think of just now.

Roz

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Hewson [mailto:JHewson at karta.com] 
Sent: 24 November 2004 14:04
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
Something



Or their, there and they're.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Robert L. Stewart
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 7:57 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something


I think the words to, too, and two would also have fit.

At 06:51 AM 11/24/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:04:18 -0500
>From: Arthur Fuller <artful at rogers.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Re: Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
>         Something
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <41A3D002.7080900 at rogers.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>No offence intended. It just happens to be one of the most vivid 
>examples of the elasticity of English. For a less vulgar example, 
>consider the word "cool" or as the young would have it, "kewl". You may 
>well be right; I should perhaps have used that word instead. But my 
>intent was not vulgarity but rather illumination on the elasticity of 
>English. Apologies if I offended.
>
>Robert L. Stewart wrote:
>
> > Or as I have heard in Russia... Pamoika (which is the fragrant 
> > liquid you see running from a dumpster) Arthur, I think your choice 
> > of examples could have been a bit less expressive of the vulgar.
> >
> > Robert


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From artful at rogers.com  Sat Nov 27 19:18:36 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 20:18:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Test
In-Reply-To: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318805CED83B@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>
References: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318805CED83B@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>
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Just checking. Dead quiet around here this weekend.

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Nov 27 19:34:26 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 20:34:26 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Test
In-Reply-To: <41A9276C.7080103@rogers.com>
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'Deed it is!

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Just checking. Dead quiet around here this weekend.

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sat Nov 27 19:41:17 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 17:41:17 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Switchboards
Message-ID: <001201c4d4eb$5d83fa70$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

I think it was this list someone asked about more robust switchboards.

 

Take a look here: http://www.peterssoftware.com/abs.htm

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 



From EricGoetz at egisystems.com  Sat Nov 27 20:04:52 2004
From: EricGoetz at egisystems.com (Eric Goetz)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 18:04:52 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ExportXML fails calulated where in acc2003?
Message-ID: <37E09725C7EB7B4F9E1ACA8F24EE55DB203EB7@servera22.doma.ops>

Hi,

I thought I'd incorporate a little XML in transferring data from an
Access 2003 mdb to an Excel spreadsheet. The Excel XML List looks like a
useful feature. The trouble is, I can't get Access to output the XML.

I'm running Access 2003 as part of a complete install of Office 2003
Enterprise Edition with SP1. I've tried this on two machines: XPProSP1a
and XPProSP2.

I've wasted my day isolating a test case, and here it is...

Test A, make sure you can do a simple export to XML.
1. Take a fresh copy of Northwind.mdb
2. Right click on the query called "Alphabetical List of Products" and
select "Export..."
3. Use the combobox "Save as type:" to select XML.
4. Click "Export"
5. Take the defaults on the subsequent dialogs.
6. Open the ".xml" file that you just created.
7. WOW! You now know how to use XML!

Test B, actually try to use XML to do some work.
1. Open the query "Alphabetical List of Products" in design view.
2. Add criteria to "CatagoryName" of Like "S*", which gives SQL of:
      SELECT Products.*, Categories.CategoryName
      FROM Categories INNER JOIN Products ON 
      Categories.CategoryID = Products.CategoryID
      WHERE (((Categories.CategoryName) Like "S*") AND       
             (Products.Discontinued)=No));
3. Run the query to see that you get the 12 products from the Seafood
category.
4. Save the query.
5. Perform steps 2 through 6 from Test A.
6. I get a nearly empty file. HUH? I thought I knew how to use XML.

How about you?

It seems that just about any calculation in the WHERE clause kills
ExportXML. I've tried it from VBA as well as the manual method employed
above.

Thanks,
 
Eric
 



From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sat Nov 27 22:40:30 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 20:40:30 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] code problem
Message-ID: <000701c4d504$675844c0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

I am copying and will attribute the following code from KG et al ADH

 

Private Sub cboEmpName_NotInList(newdata As String, Response As Integer)

Dim strMsg As String

Dim rst As Recordset

Dim db As Database

 

 

    strMsg = "'"& NewData &"'" is not in the list. "

    strMsg = strMsg & "Would you like to add them?"

 

Does any one know why the first strMsg line is evaluating to to red ?

 

Thanks 

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 



From Itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net  Sat Nov 27 22:51:27 2004
From: Itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net (Jeremy Toves)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 22:51:27 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] code problem
In-Reply-To: <000701c4d504$675844c0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <KEEPKFMIOILBMMDILFPNKEJDCHAA.Itsame2000@sbcglobal.net>

I'm guessing you just want to enclose the NewData string in single quotes.
Try this.

    strMsg = "'" & NewData & "' is not in the list. "



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Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 10:41 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] code problem


I am copying and will attribute the following code from KG et al ADH



Private Sub cboEmpName_NotInList(newdata As String, Response As Integer)

Dim strMsg As String

Dim rst As Recordset

Dim db As Database





    strMsg = "'"& NewData &"'" is not in the list. "

    strMsg = strMsg & "Would you like to add them?"



Does any one know why the first strMsg line is evaluating to to red ?



Thanks



JOE HECHT

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sat Nov 27 22:52:28 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 20:52:28 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Macro Security in Runtime "issue"...
In-Reply-To: <41A25CA4.806@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <001501c4d506$1368c590$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

Would turning off warnings in tools options help on this?

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 1:40 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003 Macro Security in Runtime "issue"...


Get their network guy to change the following registry settings of the
following key, should help you change the security level of the macro in 
Access 2003. He should be able to change this globally across the 
network for each client PC, there is even a way to do this from Access 
VBA code using WMI with proper network permissions.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Access\Security\Level

If the value is 1, then the macro security of Access 2003 is set to low.
If the value is 2, then the macro security of Access 2003 is set to medium.
If the value is 3, then the macro security of Access 2003 is set to high.

WARNING: If you use Registry Editor incorrectly, you may cause serious 
problems that may require you to reinstall your operating system. 
Microsoft cannot guarantee that you can solve problems that result from 
using Registry Editor incorrectly. Use Registry Editor at your own risk.
--------------
or you could try this subroutine to execute on the runtime startup as 
toolbar menus are disabled by runtime methods

maybe after checking this is set. I forget the order of execution.
 Access.Application.AutomationSecurity = 1 ' msoAutomationSecurityLow

  This sub activates the Macro -> Security submenu to open
' the Macro Security dialog window for the user who is using
' the runtime version of Access '03 instead of the retail version,
' which may need to have the default security level changed in
' order to run the code in the modules.
'This sub requires the Microsoft Office 11.0 Library reference

http://www.access.qbuilt.com/html/vba.html#SetMacroSecLvl
-----------------
or
Sagekey has an Access 2003 MSI install script that avoids this but is $425.
----------------
or build your own security certicate but then you still have to install 
in users certificate pool

There are some easier ways but not if it is a runtime

Greg Smith wrote:

>Hello everyone!
>
>Is there a way to shut off the security messages you get in Access 2003 in
>a runtime version of an application?  I have them shut off on my computer
>and it works fine here, but when I have the customer install it on their
>computer(s) (they don't have Access installed at all), they get the
>messages on startup about unsafe expressions, etc.  They can't shut them
>off on their computers because the application doesn't allow access to
>those areas (restricted menus).
>
>I was hoping to be able to do it internally (in vb), but that's probably
>exactly what MS is trying to prevent with the security.  So far they've
>succeeded and I've failed...and turning warnings on/off doesn't do it
>either.
>
>Of course, if they have Access installed, I'll tell them to just shut off
>the macro security (set it to 'low')...which has it's inherent dangers,
>but in most cases is ok.
>
>Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
>TIA!
>
>Greg Smith
>gregsmith at starband.net
>
>
>  
>

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Nov 27 22:57:07 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 23:57:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] code problem
In-Reply-To: <000701c4d504$675844c0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <000301c4d506$b9593d90$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

>    strMsg = "'"& NewData &"'" is not in the list. "

Use:

    strMsg = "'" & NewData & "'" & " is not in the list. "


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 11:41 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] code problem


I am copying and will attribute the following code from KG et al ADH

 

Private Sub cboEmpName_NotInList(newdata As String, Response As Integer)

Dim strMsg As String

Dim rst As Recordset

Dim db As Database

 

 

    strMsg = "'"& NewData &"'" is not in the list. "

    strMsg = strMsg & "Would you like to add them?"

 

Does any one know why the first strMsg line is evaluating to to red ?

 

Thanks 

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Nov 27 22:59:57 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 14:59:57 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
	Som	ething
In-Reply-To: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318805CED83B@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>
Message-ID: <41A9E7EC.13652.635CC48@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 25 Nov 2004 at 8:50, Roz Clarke wrote:

> Anything that's spelt differently is no problem for text translation, only
> aural translation. So I don't think those *would* work! 
> 
> Right (correct) and right (hand) and free (at liberty) and free (gratuit)
> are the only ones I can think of just now.
> 

Take a look at the number of meanings for the words "set" and "run" in any 
good dictionary :-)

As an aside, most difficult words to translate:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3830521.stm

(I'm coming in on this a bit late. I've just spent the last week sailing 
from the Whitsundays in Australia to PNG and I'm just catching up on a 
weeks worth of email.   A great experience. My first time to sail a square 
rigger - a  53ft brigantine.)





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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sat Nov 27 23:06:39 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 21:06:39 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] code problem
In-Reply-To: <000301c4d506$b9593d90$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <001601c4d508$0dff0d10$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

Thanks John,
	You have a family. What are you doing here on a Sat Night? ; )

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 8:57 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] code problem

>    strMsg = "'"& NewData &"'" is not in the list. "

Use:

    strMsg = "'" & NewData & "'" & " is not in the list. "


John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 11:41 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] code problem


I am copying and will attribute the following code from KG et al ADH

 

Private Sub cboEmpName_NotInList(newdata As String, Response As Integer)

Dim strMsg As String

Dim rst As Recordset

Dim db As Database

 

 

    strMsg = "'"& NewData &"'" is not in the list. "

    strMsg = strMsg & "Would you like to add them?"

 

Does any one know why the first strMsg line is evaluating to to red ?

 

Thanks 

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Nov 27 23:14:23 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 00:14:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] code problem
In-Reply-To: <001601c4d508$0dff0d10$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <000401c4d509$22d31fa0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Shopping for a laptop for my wife.  8~)

John W. Colby
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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 12:07 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] code problem


Thanks John,
	You have a family. What are you doing here on a Sat Night? ; )

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 8:57 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] code problem

>    strMsg = "'"& NewData &"'" is not in the list. "

Use:

    strMsg = "'" & NewData & "'" & " is not in the list. "


John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 11:41 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] code problem


I am copying and will attribute the following code from KG et al ADH

 

Private Sub cboEmpName_NotInList(newdata As String, Response As Integer)

Dim strMsg As String

Dim rst As Recordset

Dim db As Database

 

 

    strMsg = "'"& NewData &"'" is not in the list. "

    strMsg = strMsg & "Would you like to add them?"

 

Does any one know why the first strMsg line is evaluating to to red ?

 

Thanks 

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sat Nov 27 23:27:20 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 21:27:20 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Some more Sat night code help please.
Message-ID: <001801c4d50a$f2364a50$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

 

Private Sub cmdEmpDetails_Click()

    ' Comments  : Open Employee form mased on cboEmpName

    ' Parameters:  -

    ' Modified  :

    

    '

    ' --------------------------------------------------

    On Error GoTo Err_cmdEmpDatails_Click

    

       Dim strStDocName As String

       Dim strStLinkCriteria As String

       Dim lngRetval As Long

       Dim frmCurrentForm As Form

        

There is a combo box with a button to open another form on this form.

 

The combo box value is null when this form opens. If the user clicks the
button I want to open the message box and say try again.

The message box code is not fireing. 

 

Would someone see what is not working here?

 

 

 

    If Me.cboEmpName.Value = " " Then       'If combobox value is null open
message box

        lngRetval = MsgBox( _

        "Please pitck an employee from the list or click on the close
buttob", _

        vbOKOnly + vbCritical + vbSystemModal + vbDefaultButton1, _

        "Please pick Employee")

        Select Case lngRetval

        Case vbOK

     

        Set frmCurrentForm = Screen.ActiveForm ' Keep selection box form as
active form        

    End Select

        Else

    

     

    strStDocName = "Employee"

    

    strStLinkCriteria = "[EmpID]=" & "'" & Me![cboEmpName] & "'"

    DoCmd.OpenForm strStDocName, , , strStLinkCriteria

  End If

Exit_cmdEmpDatails_Click:

    Exit Sub

    

Err_cmdEmpDatails_Click:

    MsgBox Err.Description

    Resume Exit_cmdEmpDatails_Click

    

End Sub

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 



From itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net  Sat Nov 27 23:41:52 2004
From: itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net (Jeremy Toves)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 21:41:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Some more Sat night code help please.
In-Reply-To: <001801c4d50a$f2364a50$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <20041128054152.64502.qmail@web81504.mail.yahoo.com>

A space is not null.    If Me.cboEmpName.Value = " " Then       
 
Try this.    If IsNull(Me.cboEmpName.Value) Then
 
 
 
 


Joe Hecht <jmhla at earthlink.net> wrote:


Private Sub cmdEmpDetails_Click()

' Comments : Open Employee form mased on cboEmpName

' Parameters: -

' Modified :



'

' --------------------------------------------------

On Error GoTo Err_cmdEmpDatails_Click



Dim strStDocName As String

Dim strStLinkCriteria As String

Dim lngRetval As Long

Dim frmCurrentForm As Form



There is a combo box with a button to open another form on this form.



The combo box value is null when this form opens. If the user clicks the
button I want to open the message box and say try again.

The message box code is not fireing. 



Would someone see what is not working here?







If Me.cboEmpName.Value = " " Then 'If combobox value is null open
message box

lngRetval = MsgBox( _

"Please pitck an employee from the list or click on the close
buttob", _

vbOKOnly + vbCritical + vbSystemModal + vbDefaultButton1, _

"Please pick Employee")

Select Case lngRetval

Case vbOK



Set frmCurrentForm = Screen.ActiveForm ' Keep selection box form as
active form 

End Select

Else





strStDocName = "Employee"



strStLinkCriteria = "[EmpID]=" & "'" & Me![cboEmpName] & "'"

DoCmd.OpenForm strStDocName, , , strStLinkCriteria

End If

Exit_cmdEmpDatails_Click:

Exit Sub



Err_cmdEmpDatails_Click:

MsgBox Err.Description

Resume Exit_cmdEmpDatails_Click



End Sub



JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

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From Itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net  Sat Nov 27 23:43:54 2004
From: Itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net (Jeremy Toves)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 23:43:54 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Some more Sat night code help please.
In-Reply-To: <001801c4d50a$f2364a50$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <KEEPKFMIOILBMMDILFPNKEJFCHAA.Itsame2000@sbcglobal.net>

You are looking for a space and not a null.  They aren't the same thing.   
	
	If Me.cboEmpName.Value = " " Then 

Try this.
	
	If IsNull(Me.cboEmpName.Value) Then

Thanks,
Jeremy


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 11:27 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Some more Sat night code help please.


 

Private Sub cmdEmpDetails_Click()

    ' Comments  : Open Employee form mased on cboEmpName

    ' Parameters:  -

    ' Modified  :

    

    '

    ' --------------------------------------------------

    On Error GoTo Err_cmdEmpDatails_Click

    

       Dim strStDocName As String

       Dim strStLinkCriteria As String

       Dim lngRetval As Long

       Dim frmCurrentForm As Form

        

There is a combo box with a button to open another form on this form.

 

The combo box value is null when this form opens. If the user clicks the
button I want to open the message box and say try again.

The message box code is not fireing. 

 

Would someone see what is not working here?

 

 

 

    If Me.cboEmpName.Value = " " Then       'If combobox value is null open
message box

        lngRetval = MsgBox( _

        "Please pitck an employee from the list or click on the close
buttob", _

        vbOKOnly + vbCritical + vbSystemModal + vbDefaultButton1, _

        "Please pick Employee")

        Select Case lngRetval

        Case vbOK

     

        Set frmCurrentForm = Screen.ActiveForm ' Keep selection box form as
active form        

    End Select

        Else

    

     

    strStDocName = "Employee"

    

    strStLinkCriteria = "[EmpID]=" & "'" & Me![cboEmpName] & "'"

    DoCmd.OpenForm strStDocName, , , strStLinkCriteria

  End If

Exit_cmdEmpDatails_Click:

    Exit Sub

    

Err_cmdEmpDatails_Click:

    MsgBox Err.Description

    Resume Exit_cmdEmpDatails_Click

    

End Sub

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 

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From itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net  Sat Nov 27 23:47:49 2004
From: itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net (Jeremy Toves)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 21:47:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Some more Sat night code help please.
In-Reply-To: <20041128054152.64502.qmail@web81504.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20041128054749.23698.qmail@web81502.mail.yahoo.com>

Sorry about the duplicate email.  I didn't realize the first email left my outbox.



Jeremy Toves <itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
A space is not null. If Me.cboEmpName.Value = " " Then 

Try this. If IsNull(Me.cboEmpName.Value) Then






Joe Hecht wrote:


Private Sub cmdEmpDetails_Click()

' Comments : Open Employee form mased on cboEmpName

' Parameters: -

' Modified :



'

' --------------------------------------------------

On Error GoTo Err_cmdEmpDatails_Click



Dim strStDocName As String

Dim strStLinkCriteria As String

Dim lngRetval As Long

Dim frmCurrentForm As Form



There is a combo box with a button to open another form on this form.



The combo box value is null when this form opens. If the user clicks the
button I want to open the message box and say try again.

The message box code is not fireing. 



Would someone see what is not working here?







If Me.cboEmpName.Value = " " Then 'If combobox value is null open
message box

lngRetval = MsgBox( _

"Please pitck an employee from the list or click on the close
buttob", _

vbOKOnly + vbCritical + vbSystemModal + vbDefaultButton1, _

"Please pick Employee")

Select Case lngRetval

Case vbOK



Set frmCurrentForm = Screen.ActiveForm ' Keep selection box form as
active form 

End Select

Else





strStDocName = "Employee"



strStLinkCriteria = "[EmpID]=" & "'" & Me![cboEmpName] & "'"

DoCmd.OpenForm strStDocName, , , strStLinkCriteria

End If

Exit_cmdEmpDatails_Click:

Exit Sub



Err_cmdEmpDatails_Click:

MsgBox Err.Description

Resume Exit_cmdEmpDatails_Click



End Sub



JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sat Nov 27 23:52:19 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 21:52:19 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Some more Sat night code help please.
In-Reply-To: <KEEPKFMIOILBMMDILFPNKEJFCHAA.Itsame2000@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <002101c4d50e$6febf690$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

Thanks Jeremy, that was it.

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Toves
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 9:44 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Some more Sat night code help please.

You are looking for a space and not a null.  They aren't the same thing.   
	
	If Me.cboEmpName.Value = " " Then 

Try this.
	
	If IsNull(Me.cboEmpName.Value) Then

Thanks,
Jeremy


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 11:27 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Some more Sat night code help please.


 

Private Sub cmdEmpDetails_Click()

    ' Comments  : Open Employee form mased on cboEmpName

    ' Parameters:  -

    ' Modified  :

    

    '

    ' --------------------------------------------------

    On Error GoTo Err_cmdEmpDatails_Click

    

       Dim strStDocName As String

       Dim strStLinkCriteria As String

       Dim lngRetval As Long

       Dim frmCurrentForm As Form

        

There is a combo box with a button to open another form on this form.

 

The combo box value is null when this form opens. If the user clicks the
button I want to open the message box and say try again.

The message box code is not fireing. 

 

Would someone see what is not working here?

 

 

 

    If Me.cboEmpName.Value = " " Then       'If combobox value is null open
message box

        lngRetval = MsgBox( _

        "Please pitck an employee from the list or click on the close
buttob", _

        vbOKOnly + vbCritical + vbSystemModal + vbDefaultButton1, _

        "Please pick Employee")

        Select Case lngRetval

        Case vbOK

     

        Set frmCurrentForm = Screen.ActiveForm ' Keep selection box form as
active form        

    End Select

        Else

    

     

    strStDocName = "Employee"

    

    strStLinkCriteria = "[EmpID]=" & "'" & Me![cboEmpName] & "'"

    DoCmd.OpenForm strStDocName, , , strStLinkCriteria

  End If

Exit_cmdEmpDatails_Click:

    Exit Sub

    

Err_cmdEmpDatails_Click:

    MsgBox Err.Description

    Resume Exit_cmdEmpDatails_Click

    

End Sub

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 

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From itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net  Sat Nov 27 23:59:05 2004
From: itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net (Jeremy Toves)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 21:59:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Some more Sat night code help please.
In-Reply-To: <002101c4d50e$6febf690$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <20041128055905.36313.qmail@web81508.mail.yahoo.com>

No problem.  I'm glad I could help.    
 


Joe Hecht <jmhla at earthlink.net> wrote:
Thanks Jeremy, that was it.

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
jmhla at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Toves
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 9:44 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Some more Sat night code help please.

You are looking for a space and not a null. They aren't the same thing. 

If Me.cboEmpName.Value = " " Then 

Try this.

If IsNull(Me.cboEmpName.Value) Then

Thanks,
Jeremy


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 11:27 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Some more Sat night code help please.




Private Sub cmdEmpDetails_Click()

' Comments : Open Employee form mased on cboEmpName

' Parameters: -

' Modified :



'

' --------------------------------------------------

On Error GoTo Err_cmdEmpDatails_Click



Dim strStDocName As String

Dim strStLinkCriteria As String

Dim lngRetval As Long

Dim frmCurrentForm As Form



There is a combo box with a button to open another form on this form.



The combo box value is null when this form opens. If the user clicks the
button I want to open the message box and say try again.

The message box code is not fireing. 



Would someone see what is not working here?







If Me.cboEmpName.Value = " " Then 'If combobox value is null open
message box

lngRetval = MsgBox( _

"Please pitck an employee from the list or click on the close
buttob", _

vbOKOnly + vbCritical + vbSystemModal + vbDefaultButton1, _

"Please pick Employee")

Select Case lngRetval

Case vbOK



Set frmCurrentForm = Screen.ActiveForm ' Keep selection box form as
active form 

End Select

Else





strStDocName = "Employee"



strStLinkCriteria = "[EmpID]=" & "'" & Me![cboEmpName] & "'"

DoCmd.OpenForm strStDocName, , , strStLinkCriteria

End If

Exit_cmdEmpDatails_Click:

Exit Sub



Err_cmdEmpDatails_Click:

MsgBox Err.Description

Resume Exit_cmdEmpDatails_Click



End Sub



JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net



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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sun Nov 28 00:01:06 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 22:01:06 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Some more Sat night code help please.
In-Reply-To: <20041128054749.23698.qmail@web81502.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002201c4d50f$a9eddba0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

I wish that was my biggest problem. No worries.

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Toves
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 9:48 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Some more Sat night code help please.

Sorry about the duplicate email.  I didn't realize the first email left my
outbox.



Jeremy Toves <itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
A space is not null. If Me.cboEmpName.Value = " " Then 

Try this. If IsNull(Me.cboEmpName.Value) Then






Joe Hecht wrote:


Private Sub cmdEmpDetails_Click()

' Comments : Open Employee form mased on cboEmpName

' Parameters: -

' Modified :



'

' --------------------------------------------------

On Error GoTo Err_cmdEmpDatails_Click



Dim strStDocName As String

Dim strStLinkCriteria As String

Dim lngRetval As Long

Dim frmCurrentForm As Form



There is a combo box with a button to open another form on this form.



The combo box value is null when this form opens. If the user clicks the
button I want to open the message box and say try again.

The message box code is not fireing. 



Would someone see what is not working here?







If Me.cboEmpName.Value = " " Then 'If combobox value is null open
message box

lngRetval = MsgBox( _

"Please pitck an employee from the list or click on the close
buttob", _

vbOKOnly + vbCritical + vbSystemModal + vbDefaultButton1, _

"Please pick Employee")

Select Case lngRetval

Case vbOK



Set frmCurrentForm = Screen.ActiveForm ' Keep selection box form as
active form 

End Select

Else





strStDocName = "Employee"



strStLinkCriteria = "[EmpID]=" & "'" & Me![cboEmpName] & "'"

DoCmd.OpenForm strStDocName, , , strStLinkCriteria

End If

Exit_cmdEmpDatails_Click:

Exit Sub



Err_cmdEmpDatails_Click:

MsgBox Err.Description

Resume Exit_cmdEmpDatails_Click



End Sub



JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net



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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Sun Nov 28 08:54:44 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 14:54:44 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Selecting Languages - English or Spanish
	orSom	ething
In-Reply-To: <41A9E7EC.13652.635CC48@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <000701c4d55a$33f629c0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Wow sounds fantastic Stuart. My son was in the Whitsundays a month or so
back. Said how beautiful it was.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Stuart McLachlan
> Sent: 28 November 2004 05:00
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: Selecting Languages - English or 
> Spanish orSom ething
> 
> 
> On 25 Nov 2004 at 8:50, Roz Clarke wrote:
> 
> > Anything that's spelt differently is no problem for text 
> translation, 
> > only aural translation. So I don't think those *would* work!
> > 
> > Right (correct) and right (hand) and free (at liberty) and free 
> > (gratuit) are the only ones I can think of just now.
> > 
> 
> Take a look at the number of meanings for the words "set" and 
> "run" in any 
> good dictionary :-)
> 
> As an aside, most difficult words to translate: 
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3830521.stm
> 
> (I'm coming in on this a bit late. I've just spent the last 
> week sailing 
> from the Whitsundays in Australia to PNG and I'm just 
> catching up on a 
> weeks worth of email.   A great experience. My first time to 
> sail a square 
> rigger - a  53ft brigantine.)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Nov 28 09:55:42 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 07:55:42 -0800
Subject: OT [AccessD] Re: Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or	Something
In-Reply-To: <41A9E7EC.13652.635CC48@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIOELBCIAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Sounds awesome Stuart.

Probably the most difficult word in the English language to translate is the
word 'set'. This word has literally dozens of meanings. In one encyclopedia,
the number of means attributed to this simple word fills 8 pages.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 9:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
Something


On 25 Nov 2004 at 8:50, Roz Clarke wrote:

> Anything that's spelt differently is no problem for text translation, only
> aural translation. So I don't think those *would* work!
>
> Right (correct) and right (hand) and free (at liberty) and free (gratuit)
> are the only ones I can think of just now.
>

Take a look at the number of meanings for the words "set" and "run" in any
good dictionary :-)

As an aside, most difficult words to translate:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3830521.stm

(I'm coming in on this a bit late. I've just spent the last week sailing
from the Whitsundays in Australia to PNG and I'm just catching up on a
weeks worth of email.   A great experience. My first time to sail a square
rigger - a  53ft brigantine.)





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From artful at rogers.com  Sun Nov 28 12:29:50 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 13:29:50 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] code problem
In-Reply-To: <000701c4d504$675844c0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
References: <000701c4d504$675844c0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <41AA191E.1040309@rogers.com>

Here is a function that might prove more useful. It is mostly compatible 
but has the advantage that you can use it everywhere, rather than tying 
it to one specific combo-box. It lets you specify the form to pop up, in 
case the add-to-list is complext (i.e. needs several required fields).

<code>
Public Function aaNotInList _
    ( _
    NewData As String, _
    Response As Integer, _
    strForm As String, _
    strTerm As String _
    )
'This function works just like the standard NotInList Sub,
'but adds two new parameters so you can specify the name of the
'form to pop up, and the generic name of the object (i.e., customer, 
agent, etc.)
'Note: this function requires the IsLoaded function, for which there are 
many sources.
   
    Dim mbrResponse As VbMsgBoxResult
    Dim strMsg As String
   
    strMsg = NewData & _
     " is not on file. " & _
     "Add a new " & strTerm & "?"
    mbrResponse = MsgBox(strMsg, _
     vbYesNo + vbQuestion, "Unknown " & strTerm)
    Select Case mbrResponse
        Case vbYes
            DoCmd.OpenForm strForm, _
                    DataMode:=acFormAdd, _
                    WIndowMode:=acDialog, _
                    OpenArgs:=NewData
           
            ' Stop here and wait until the form
            ' goes away.
            If IsLoaded(strForm) Then
                Response = acDataErrAdded
                Debug.Print "Closing " & strForm
                DoCmd.Close acForm, strForm
            Else
                Response = acDataErrContinue
            End If
        Case vbNo
            Response = acDataErrContinue
    End Select
End Function
</code>

Arthur

Joe Hecht wrote:

>I am copying and will attribute the following code from KG et al ADH
>
> 
>
>Private Sub cboEmpName_NotInList(newdata As String, Response As Integer)
>
>Dim strMsg As String
>
>Dim rst As Recordset
>
>Dim db As Database
>
> 
>
> 
>
>    strMsg = "'"& NewData &"'" is not in the list. "
>
>    strMsg = strMsg & "Would you like to add them?"
>
> 
>
>Does any one know why the first strMsg line is evaluating to to red ?
>
> 
>
>Thanks 
>
> 
>
>JOE HECHT
>
>LOS ANGELES CA 
>
>jmhla at earthlink.net
>
> 
>
>  
>


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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sun Nov 28 18:23:45 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 16:23:45 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] access data to word forms
Message-ID: <000001c4d5a9$b33e2440$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

I am building an application at home that will go to the client's server and
two or three workstations. 

 

I am passing some data from Access to Word. The way I know how to do this,
through Words data merge wizard hard codes the path as I understand things. 

 

Is there a way to have the path change to the server when I install this or
will I need to rebuild the links?

 

Thanks

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 



From tom at rbbs.net.au  Sun Nov 28 21:45:05 2004
From: tom at rbbs.net.au (Tom Keatley)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:45:05 +0800
Subject: [AccessD] Divide A Table into 4 equal parts and append to a second
	table
References: <000001c4d5a9$b33e2440$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <005701c4d5c5$d46c08a0$0300a8c0@TomDownload>

Hi all...
I have built a function that seems to achieve my aims although I feel it
looks a little clunky...

Its purpose is to reduce the data of 4 records in a table (NUMBERS) to a
single record in another table (Table4up) with a view to using that data on
a report 4 up.

Can anyone suggest a better/more efficient way to achieve my aims? The code
as is will not handle less than 9 records and I realise its not finished as
there is no error checking or setting variables to NOTHING but wanted to get
the groups feeling about the efficiency. This code will form the heart of a
new project I am working on and I want it to be the best way possible to do
it.....

Function REnder4UPnew()
Dim Db As Database, Rs As Recordset
Dim RsAdd As Recordset
Dim Nos As String
Dim NoRecs As Long
Dim FourUp As String
Dim Counter As Integer
Dim DElQry As String
Dim ModNo As Integer

DElQry = "DELETE Table4UP.* FROM Table4UP;"
DoCmd.RunSQL DElQry

Nos = "SELECT NUMBERS.* FROM NUMBERS ORDER BY NUMBERS.IDNO;"
FourUp = "SELECT Table4UP.* FROM Table4UP;"

Set Db = CurrentDb
Set Rs = Db.OpenRecordset(Nos)
Set RsAdd = Db.OpenRecordset(FourUp)


With Rs
    .MoveFirst
    .MoveLast
NoRecs = .RecordCount

ModNo = NoRecs Mod 4

Select Case ModNo
Case 0
    NoRecs = Int(.RecordCount / 4)
Case 1
    NoRecs = Int(.RecordCount / 4) + 1
Case 2
    NoRecs = Int(.RecordCount / 4) + 1
Case 3
    NoRecs = Int(.RecordCount / 4) + 1
End Select

Counter = 0

....MoveFirst

While Not .EOF Or .BOF
Counter = Counter + 1

Select Case Counter
Case 1 To NoRecs
        RsAdd.AddNew
        RsAdd!sequence = Counter
        RsAdd!Pos1 = ![idno]
        RsAdd.Update

Case (NoRecs + 1) To (NoRecs * 2)
    If Counter = (NoRecs + 1) Then
        RsAdd.MoveFirst
        RsAdd.Edit
        RsAdd!Pos2 = ![idno]
        RsAdd.Update
        RsAdd.MoveNext
    Else
        RsAdd.Edit
        RsAdd!Pos2 = ![idno]
        RsAdd.Update
        RsAdd.MoveNext
    End If

Case ((NoRecs * 2) + 1) To (NoRecs * 3)
    If Counter = ((NoRecs * 2) + 1) Then
        RsAdd.MoveFirst
        RsAdd.Edit
        RsAdd!Pos3 = ![idno]
        RsAdd.Update
        RsAdd.MoveNext
    Else
        RsAdd.Edit
        RsAdd!Pos3 = ![idno]
        RsAdd.Update
        RsAdd.MoveNext
    End If

Case ((NoRecs * 3) + 1) To (NoRecs * 4)
    If Counter = ((NoRecs * 3) + 1) Then
        RsAdd.MoveFirst
        RsAdd.Edit
        RsAdd!Pos4 = ![idno]
        RsAdd.Update
        RsAdd.MoveNext
    Else
        RsAdd.Edit
        RsAdd!Pos4 = ![idno]
        RsAdd.Update
        RsAdd.MoveNext

    End If
End Select

....MoveNext
Wend
End With
Select Case ModNo
Case 1
        RsAdd.Edit
        RsAdd!Pos4 = 9997
        RsAdd.Update
        RsAdd.MoveNext
        RsAdd.Edit
        RsAdd!Pos4 = 9998
        RsAdd.Update
        RsAdd.MoveNext
        RsAdd.Edit
        RsAdd!Pos4 = 9999
        RsAdd.Update

 Case 2
         RsAdd.Edit
        RsAdd!Pos4 = 9997
        RsAdd.Update
        RsAdd.MoveNext
        RsAdd.Edit
        RsAdd!Pos4 = 9998
        RsAdd.Update

 Case 3
         RsAdd.Edit
        RsAdd!Pos4 = 9997
        RsAdd.Update
 End Select



End Function

Thanks In Anticipation

Tom Keatley



From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Mon Nov 29 02:04:40 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:04:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Search for linked documents....IN TABLES....
In-Reply-To: <20041124141534.33810.qmail@web61105.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20041129080440.63373.qmail@web61106.mail.yahoo.com>

absolutely knowbody any idea??
I'm really stuck on this one!!

thnx in advance.
 
Regards,
 
SD

S D <accessd667 at yahoo.com> wrote:
Can anybody please help me with this one?
Tips/links/articles any thing will do!!

Regrds,
sd

S D wrote:
Hi group,

it seemed that the users where not talking about linked tables but about linked documents in a table!

So I've got a table, this table has an oledb field in it. I found out how to search for this.
However, I now need to figure out how I can do the following:
1 - check if file is linked
2 - what type of file is linked (Word, Excel, etc)
3 - what is the version of the matching officeprogram (eg Word 97, Excell 2002)
4 - what is the location of the file
5 - what are the create, last modified, last opened date

Did anybody ever do something like this?
Does anybody know if there is some sort of object model that I can use for this eg like in Excell: Application => Workbook => worksheet, etc? 
Does anybody know to any tips on how to figure this out?! 

Thnx in advance!

Sander


S D wrote:
Have fun....haha..ha...hmmm I think we've got different ideas about fun 
Thnx for the, once again, great response.

Sander

Gustav Brock wrote:
Hi Sander

This is doable but not straight forward.

First, linked "documents" are treated as ISAM databases and tables. For
text and xBase and Paradox files, the directory is the "database" while
for Excel and Html the file is the database. Linked MAPI tables are even
more excotic so I will leave them for this. Linked ODBC tables are
complete different as they are identified by their connect strings.

Second, tables may be linked with other names than their true names.

This a query which will return all non-deleted links:

SELECT DISTINCT 
RTrim([Database]) AS DbsPath, 
MSysObjects.Connect, 
Hex(GetTableType([Flags])) AS TableType, 
MSysObjects.ForeignName, 
GetTrueForeignName(GetTableType([Flags]),[ForeignName]) AS
TrueForeignName, 
MSysObjects.Name AS LinkedName
FROM 
MSysObjects
WHERE 
(IsTablePresent([Flags])=True) 
AND 
(MSysObjects.Type=4 Or MSysObjects.Type=6);

It uses these supporting functions:



Declarations.

' Table types known.
'
' ODBC connection.
Private Const clngTableTypeNone As Long = &H0
' Note: MS MSDE/SQL Server has some higher bits set as well.
Private Const clngTableTypeOdbc As Long = &H100000
' Jet file attached by UNC name.
Private Const clngTableTypeJetUnc As Long = &H200000
' Jet file attached by mapped drive letter.
Private Const clngTableTypeJetDrive As Long = &H400000
Private Const clngTableTypeParadox As Long = &H700000
Private Const clngTableTypeDbase As Long = &H800000
Private Const clngTableTypeText As Long = &HA00000
Private Const clngTableTypeExcel As Long = &HB00000
Private Const clngTableTypeOutlook As Long = &HD00000
Private Const clngTableTypeHtml As Long = &HE00000

Public Function GetTrueForeignName( _
ByVal lngTableType As Long, _
ByVal strForeignName As String) _
As String

' Returns true foreign name for those ISAM table types
' where this is stored as an alias.
' Foreign names for other table types are not altered.
'
' Example Excel:
' Alias for worksheet: Sheet1$
' True name: Sheet1
' Example Paradox:
' Alias for table name: Pdoxfile#db
' True name: Pdoxfile.db
'
' 2004-05-10. Cactus Data ApS, CPH.

Const cstrSepDbase As String = "#"
Const cstrSepParadox As String = "#"
Const cstrSepText As String = "#"
Const cstrSepExcel As String = "$"
Const cstrRplExcel As String = vbNullString

Dim strTrueName As String
Dim lngPos As Long

Select Case lngTableType
Case clngTableTypeParadox
lngPos = InStr(strForeignName, cstrSepParadox)
If lngPos > 1 Then
strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, lngPos - 1)
Else
strTrueName = strForeignName
End If
Case clngTableTypeDbase
lngPos = InStr(strForeignName, cstrSepDbase)
If lngPos > 1 Then
strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, lngPos - 1)
Else
strTrueName = strForeignName
End If
Case clngTableTypeExcel
If Right(strForeignName, 1) = cstrSepExcel Then
' Worksheet. Strip traling "$".
strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, Len(strForeignName) - 1)
Else
' Named Range. Leave as is.
strTrueName = strForeignName
End If
Case clngTableTypeText
lngPos = InStr(strForeignName, cstrSepText)
If lngPos > 1 Then
strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, lngPos - 1)
Else
strTrueName = strForeignName
End If
Case Else
strTrueName = strForeignName
End Select

GetTrueForeignName = strTrueName

End Function

Public Function IsTablePresent( _
ByVal lngFlag As Long) _
As Boolean

' Returns True if a table is not flagged as deleted in MSysObjects.
' To be used in a query to extract currently attached tables.
'
' 2004-04-21. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.

Const clngFlagDeleted As Long = &H1001

Dim booDeleted As Boolean

booDeleted = lngFlag And clngFlagDeleted

IsTablePresent = Not booDeleted

End Function

Public Function GetTableType( _
ByVal lngFlag As Long) _
As Long

' Returns the table type from lngFlag in MSysObjects by rounding it to
' &H100000 which strips all minor flags including the hidden flag
(&H8)
' and all major flags - like &H20xxxxxx used by MS MSDE/SQL Server.
' To be used in a query to extract currently attached tables of a
specific type.
'
' 2004-04-21. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.

' Flag mask.
' Const clngFlagMajor As Long = &HFF000000
' Const clngFlagMinor As Long = &HFFFFF
Const clngFlagMask As Long = &HFF0FFFFF

Dim lngType As Long

lngType = lngFlag And Not clngFlagMask

GetTableType = lngType

End Function



Have fun!

/gustav

>>> accessd667 at yahoo.com 19-11-2004 14:57:55 >>>
Hi group,

I've got some code from the ADHB2K to search for linked tables.
However, it is also possible to link documents...office documents that
is. So I mean files with extions like:
.xls;
.txt;
etc

Q1: how can I search for these linked 'documents'?
Q2: how can I pinpoint the xls files from none xls files?

TIA

Sander

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Nov 29 03:25:44 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:25:44 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Divide A Table into 4 equal parts and append to
	a secondtable
Message-ID: <s1aaf945.080@cactus.dk>

Hi Tom

I guess you could pick every fourth record as base ID for a selection
and create subselects to collect data from four records along these
lines:

<SQL>

  SELECT DISTINCT 
    ID\4 AS ID4, 
      (Select 
        T.FieldSome 
      From 
        tblYourTable As T 
      Where 
        T.ID\4 = tblYourTable.ID\4 
        And 
        T.ID Mod 4 = 0) AS 
    A, 
      (Select 
        T.FieldSome 
      From 
        tblYourTable As T 
      Where 
        T.ID\4 = tblYourTable.ID\4 
        And 
        T.ID Mod 4 = 1) AS 
    B, 
      (Select 
        T.FieldSome 
      From 
        tblYourTable As T 
      Where 
        T.ID\4 = tblYourTable.ID\4 
        And 
        T.ID Mod 4 = 2) AS 
    C, 
      (Select 
        T.FieldSome 
      From 
        tblYourTable As T 
      Where 
        T.ID\4 = tblYourTable.ID\4 
        And 
        T.ID Mod 4 = 3) AS 
    D
  FROM 
    tblYourTable;

</SQL>

This assumes that your IDs are truly sequential (no "holes"). If this
is not the case, things get a little more complicated.
Also, first ID should be 0. If not, you will need to move around the
sequence of A to D and their modulos - from 0,1,2,3 to 1,2,3,0 if the
first ID is 1.

/gustav


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From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:49:17 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Not all queries present when mailmerge from word.
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5596@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Hi
 
Since Access version 2000 I notice that not all queries are visible in
the merge window.
Apparently all queries that are based on more then one table or have
somewhat complex structure are missing.
 
Why is this, and how can I see the afterall....
 
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Nov 29 06:01:53 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:01:53 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Execute and transaction
Message-ID: <s1ab1dcc.083@cactus.dk>

Hi all

If you use the Execute method to run action queries, pay attention to
this from the on-line help:

<snip>

In earlier versions of the Microsoft Jet Database Engine, SQL
statements were automatically embedded in implicit transactions. If part
of a statement executed with dbFailOnError failed, the entire statement
would be rolled back. To improve performance, these implicit
transactions were removed starting with version 3.5. If you are updating
older DAO code, be sure to consider using explicit transactions around
Execute statements.

For best performance in a Microsoft Jet workspace, especially in a
multiuser environment, nest the Execute method inside a transaction. Use
the BeginTrans method on the current Workspace object, then use the
Execute method, and complete the transaction by using the CommitTrans
method on the Workspace. This saves changes on disk and frees any locks
placed while the query is running.

</snip>

I just had to debug a case where an extremely simple update query (one
table, less than 2000 records, updating an indexed field) during testing
ran "just like that" while run from code took more than one minute.
Wrapping it in a transaction cut the duration to one second:

<code snip>

    wks.BeginTrans
      qdf.Execute dbFailOnError
      qdf.Close
    wks.CommitTrans

</code snip>

/gustav


From GregSmith at starband.net  Mon Nov 29 08:03:12 2004
From: GregSmith at starband.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 08:03:12 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Macro Security in Runtime 'issue'...
In-Reply-To: <001501c4d506$1368c590$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
References: <41A25CA4.806@shaw.ca> <001501c4d506$1368c590$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <1091.65.118.249.206.1101736992.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>

Joe:

Yes, it would.  However, I'm not the one installing this program on
customer's computers...our salespeople are (not Access savy, if you catch
my drift...) and I'm not going to try and explain it to them.  I don't
have that much time left on Earth...;)

But, if it does the runtime install, nobody has access to that part of
Acess, so they can't be changed anyway.

I haven't tried Marty's suggestions yet...his email is on my home computer
which uses Starband (no choice...) for my internet...and this weekend one
of their satellites (the one I use) went dark.  There are a whole bunch of
us without internet access (I'm at work right now..).  Starband says it
cannot be repaired (the satellite is 22,500 miles out...too far for a
stepladder...) and will have to do something else.

So please bear with me if I don't always respond right away.

Thanks!

Greg Smith
gregsmith at starband.net

> Would turning off warnings in tools options help on this?
>
> JOE HECHT
> LOS ANGELES CA
>  jmhla at earthlink.net
>
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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 1:40 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003 Macro Security in Runtime "issue"...
>
>
> Get their network guy to change the following registry settings of the
> following key, should help you change the security level of the macro in
>  Access 2003. He should be able to change this globally across the
> network for each client PC, there is even a way to do this from Access
.
.
.





From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Mon Nov 29 08:44:22 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:44:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] ExportXML fails calulated where in acc2003?
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74486BA0@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Eric,

I did a quick test of a little sample db and had the same result trying to match a category name using LIKE,  BUT I noticed that if I change the query to use the Category ID rather than LIKE on the name column I returned results in the XML file.  

FWIW

Jim DeMarco

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Eric Goetz
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 9:05 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] ExportXML fails calulated where in acc2003?


Hi,

I thought I'd incorporate a little XML in transferring data from an
Access 2003 mdb to an Excel spreadsheet. The Excel XML List looks like a
useful feature. The trouble is, I can't get Access to output the XML.

I'm running Access 2003 as part of a complete install of Office 2003
Enterprise Edition with SP1. I've tried this on two machines: XPProSP1a
and XPProSP2.

I've wasted my day isolating a test case, and here it is...

Test A, make sure you can do a simple export to XML.
1. Take a fresh copy of Northwind.mdb
2. Right click on the query called "Alphabetical List of Products" and
select "Export..."
3. Use the combobox "Save as type:" to select XML.
4. Click "Export"
5. Take the defaults on the subsequent dialogs.
6. Open the ".xml" file that you just created.
7. WOW! You now know how to use XML!

Test B, actually try to use XML to do some work.
1. Open the query "Alphabetical List of Products" in design view.
2. Add criteria to "CatagoryName" of Like "S*", which gives SQL of:
      SELECT Products.*, Categories.CategoryName
      FROM Categories INNER JOIN Products ON 
      Categories.CategoryID = Products.CategoryID
      WHERE (((Categories.CategoryName) Like "S*") AND       
             (Products.Discontinued)=No));
3. Run the query to see that you get the 12 products from the Seafood
category.
4. Save the query.
5. Perform steps 2 through 6 from Test A.
6. I get a nearly empty file. HUH? I thought I knew how to use XML.

How about you?

It seems that just about any calculation in the WHERE clause kills
ExportXML. I've tried it from VBA as well as the manual method employed
above.

Thanks,
 
Eric
 

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From EricGoetz at egisystems.com  Mon Nov 29 10:48:43 2004
From: EricGoetz at egisystems.com (Eric Goetz)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 08:48:43 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ExportXML fails calulated where in acc2003?
Message-ID: <37E09725C7EB7B4F9E1ACA8F24EE55DB203EBB@servera22.doma.ops>

Jim,

Thank you so much for giving this a try.

At least I know I'm not loosing my mind... I think.

I'll take you suggestion and keep experimenting with work-arounds.

Thanks,
 
Eric
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org] 
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 6:44 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] ExportXML fails calulated where in acc2003?

Eric,

I did a quick test of a little sample db and had the same result trying
to match a category name using LIKE,  BUT I noticed that if I change the
query to use the Category ID rather than LIKE on the name column I
returned results in the XML file.  

FWIW

Jim DeMarco


From dw-murphy at cox.net  Mon Nov 29 12:51:34 2004
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:51:34 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Macro Security in Runtime 'issue'...
In-Reply-To: <1091.65.118.249.206.1101736992.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
Message-ID: <001901c4d644$76027810$8500a8c0@murphyf3vdfepi>

Take a look at Helen Feddema's Access Achron site,
http://www.helenfeddema.com/access.htm, article 119 discussess 2003
security.  There was also an article in one of the Access magazines, the
Access Advisor I think, a few months ago on how to deal with 2003 security
issues in designing your application.

Doug

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 6:03 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003 Macro Security in Runtime 'issue'...


Joe:

Yes, it would.  However, I'm not the one installing this program on
customer's computers...our salespeople are (not Access savy, if you catch my
drift...) and I'm not going to try and explain it to them.  I don't have
that much time left on Earth...;)

But, if it does the runtime install, nobody has access to that part of
Acess, so they can't be changed anyway.

I haven't tried Marty's suggestions yet...his email is on my home computer
which uses Starband (no choice...) for my internet...and this weekend one of
their satellites (the one I use) went dark.  There are a whole bunch of us
without internet access (I'm at work right now..).  Starband says it cannot
be repaired (the satellite is 22,500 miles out...too far for a
stepladder...) and will have to do something else.

So please bear with me if I don't always respond right away.

Thanks!

Greg Smith
gregsmith at starband.net

> Would turning off warnings in tools options help on this?
>
> JOE HECHT
> LOS ANGELES CA
>  jmhla at earthlink.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> MartyConnelly
> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 1:40 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003 Macro Security in Runtime "issue"...
>
>
> Get their network guy to change the following registry settings of the 
> following key, should help you change the security level of the macro 
> in  Access 2003. He should be able to change this globally across the 
> network for each client PC, there is even a way to do this from Access
.
.
.



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From EricGoetz at egisystems.com  Mon Nov 29 12:58:20 2004
From: EricGoetz at egisystems.com (Eric Goetz)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:58:20 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ExportXML fails calulated where in acc2003?
Message-ID: <37E09725C7EB7B4F9E1ACA8F24EE55DB203EBF@servera22.doma.ops>

Hi,

And the answer is... ADO ANSI 92 wildcards vs MDB VBA wildcards. 

It turns out that ExportXML uses ADO, which uses ANSI 92 wildcards. My
query uses wildcards that conform to VBA as explained in the Microsoft
Access 2003 help topic: About ANSI SQL query mode (MDB).

I had searched the MS knowledge base for "ExportXML" before posting this
issue to AccessD. I didn't find anything relevant. 

If I would have searched the knowledge base with "Export XML", I would
have found the following article.

823224  Access queries with a wildcard character do not export data to
an XML document

I've learned many things from this experience. I think I will be setting
the "This database" checkbox in the "SQL Server Compatible Syntax (ANSI
92)" section of the "Tables/Queries" tab of the "Tools, Options..."
dialog in Access for any new database work I do. That way the queries I
write will be compatible across ADO, SQL server and the MDB.

Has anyone else been turning on ANSI 92 compatibility for new work done
in 2002-2003 file format MDBs?

I think it will bring me one step closer to SQL Server, which is a good
thing... I think.?

Thanks,
 
Eric
 


From jmhla at earthlink.net  Mon Nov 29 13:10:13 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:10:13 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code
Message-ID: <000c01c4d647$11cb8870$2002a8c0@delllaptop>

  

 

 If Me.JobTitleID Is Null Then                  'If row is blank do nothing

        Else

       Me.cboJob_Title.Value = Me.cboJob_Title.Column(1)            'Display
job title

 

   End If

 

Rowsource =

SELECT [Job Title].JobTitleID, [Job Title].JobTitle

FROM [Job Title]

ORDER BY [Job Title].JobTitle;

    

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 



From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Mon Nov 29 13:23:30 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 14:23:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30A3ED46@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BBA89@ADGSERVER>

I'd write it like:

If not isnull(Me.JobTitleID) Then                     'If row is blank do
nothing
   Me.cboJob_Title.Value = Me.cboJob_Title.Column(1)  'Display job title
   End If

OR

If len("" & Me.JobTitleID)>0 Then                     'If row is blank do
nothing
   Me.cboJob_Title.Value = Me.cboJob_Title.Column(1)  'Display job title
   End If

I would personally probably use the first one myself.

Bobby

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 2:10 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code


  

 

 If Me.JobTitleID Is Null Then                  'If row is blank do nothing

        Else

       Me.cboJob_Title.Value = Me.cboJob_Title.Column(1)            'Display
job title

 

   End If

 

Rowsource =

SELECT [Job Title].JobTitleID, [Job Title].JobTitle

FROM [Job Title]

ORDER BY [Job Title].JobTitle;

    

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 

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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Mon Nov 29 13:33:03 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:33:03 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code
In-Reply-To: <000c01c4d647$11cb8870$2002a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <008801c4d64a$3e5f8d70$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Hi Joe

Try:

If Not IsNull(Me.JobTitleID) Then 
   Me.cboJob_Title.Value = Me.cboJob_Title.Column(1)      
End If


-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

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> Subject: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code
> 
> 
>   
> 
>  
> 
>  If Me.JobTitleID Is Null Then                  'If row is 
> blank do nothing
> 
>         Else
> 
>        Me.cboJob_Title.Value = Me.cboJob_Title.Column(1)      
>       'Display
> job title
> 
>  
> 
>    End If
> 
>  
> 
> Rowsource =
> 
> SELECT [Job Title].JobTitleID, [Job Title].JobTitle
> 
> FROM [Job Title]
> 
> ORDER BY [Job Title].JobTitle;
> 
>     
> 
>  
> 
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Nov 29 13:38:03 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:38:03 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233725C@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

<If Me.JobTitleID Is Null >
I know some jobs are a bore but this is a bit Kafkaesque don't you think? Or
just a freudian slip perhaps?
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhla at earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 1:10 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code


  

 

 If Me.JobTitleID Is Null Then                  'If row is blank do nothing

        Else

       Me.cboJob_Title.Value = Me.cboJob_Title.Column(1)            'Display
job title

 

   End If

 

Rowsource =

SELECT [Job Title].JobTitleID, [Job Title].JobTitle

FROM [Job Title]

ORDER BY [Job Title].JobTitle;

    

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Mon Nov 29 13:38:23 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:38:23 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BBA89@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <000001c4d64b$00d3ac60$2002a8c0@delllaptop>

Thanks Bobby,
Could not remember the proper way to test is not null.

This list take a lot of the pain out of working alone.

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 11:24 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code

I'd write it like:

If not isnull(Me.JobTitleID) Then                     'If row is blank do
nothing
   Me.cboJob_Title.Value = Me.cboJob_Title.Column(1)  'Display job title
   End If

OR

If len("" & Me.JobTitleID)>0 Then                     'If row is blank do
nothing
   Me.cboJob_Title.Value = Me.cboJob_Title.Column(1)  'Display job title
   End If

I would personally probably use the first one myself.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 2:10 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code


  

 

 If Me.JobTitleID Is Null Then                  'If row is blank do nothing

        Else

       Me.cboJob_Title.Value = Me.cboJob_Title.Column(1)            'Display
job title

 

   End If

 

Rowsource =

SELECT [Job Title].JobTitleID, [Job Title].JobTitle

FROM [Job Title]

ORDER BY [Job Title].JobTitle;

    

 

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Mon Nov 29 13:44:05 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:44:05 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233725C@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c4d64b$cc9f4de0$2002a8c0@delllaptop>

Is better than 
If job.painful = true

Maybe

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 11:38 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code

<If Me.JobTitleID Is Null >
I know some jobs are a bore but this is a bit Kafkaesque don't you think? Or
just a freudian slip perhaps?
Jim Hale






From nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us  Mon Nov 29 13:44:41 2004
From: nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us (Neal Kling)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 14:44:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Looking for TWAIN ocx
Message-ID: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE41114CBC@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>

I'm looking for a simple ocx/activex control/library to capture images from a scanner in Access 2K. There are various available but the one's I've seen seem to be built to take you to the moon and back. I don't need editing, conversion etc. Just capture to the basic file types. Specifically TIF.
 
I'll want to be able to specify path/name, file type, resolution. The whole idea here is that I'm trying to remove a weak link, that being the users saving with the wrong file names.
 
Does anyone have any recommendations?
 
Thanks,
Neal


From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Nov 29 13:48:26 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:48:26 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Macro Security in Runtime 'issue'...
References: <41A25CA4.806@shaw.ca> <001501c4d506$1368c590$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
	<1091.65.118.249.206.1101736992.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
Message-ID: <41AB7D0A.50800@shaw.ca>

Here is a news site and forum on Starband's problem
http://www.abcnewsabsat.com/home.html#ia7
Looks like a full replacement satellite won't be available until Feburary.

Greg Smith wrote:

>Joe:
>
>Yes, it would.  However, I'm not the one installing this program on
>customer's computers...our salespeople are (not Access savy, if you catch
>my drift...) and I'm not going to try and explain it to them.  I don't
>have that much time left on Earth...;)
>
>But, if it does the runtime install, nobody has access to that part of
>Acess, so they can't be changed anyway.
>
>I haven't tried Marty's suggestions yet...his email is on my home computer
>which uses Starband (no choice...) for my internet...and this weekend one
>of their satellites (the one I use) went dark.  There are a whole bunch of
>us without internet access (I'm at work right now..).  Starband says it
>cannot be repaired (the satellite is 22,500 miles out...too far for a
>stepladder...) and will have to do something else.
>
>So please bear with me if I don't always respond right away.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Greg Smith
>gregsmith at starband.net
>
>  
>
>>Would turning off warnings in tools options help on this?
>>
>>JOE HECHT
>>LOS ANGELES CA
>> jmhla at earthlink.net
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
>>Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 1:40 PM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003 Macro Security in Runtime "issue"...
>>
>>
>>Get their network guy to change the following registry settings of the
>>following key, should help you change the security level of the macro in
>> Access 2003. He should be able to change this globally across the
>>network for each client PC, there is even a way to do this from Access
>>    
>>
>.
>.
>.
>
>
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From jmhla at earthlink.net  Mon Nov 29 13:50:45 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:50:45 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code
In-Reply-To: <000a01c4d64b$cc9f4de0$2002a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <001101c4d64c$bac381d0$2002a8c0@delllaptop>

What is  " Kafkaesque"?

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 11:44 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code

Is better than 
If job.painful = true

Maybe

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 11:38 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code

<If Me.JobTitleID Is Null >
I know some jobs are a bore but this is a bit Kafkaesque don't you think? Or
just a freudian slip perhaps?
Jim Hale




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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Mon Nov 29 13:54:49 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 14:54:49 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30A3ED5D@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BBA8D@ADGSERVER>

You're quite welcome Joe.  I know what you mean.  I have gotten a lot of
stuff off of here myself.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 2:38 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code


Thanks Bobby,
Could not remember the proper way to test is not null.

This list take a lot of the pain out of working alone.

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net



From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Nov 29 15:01:26 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:01:26 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337260@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

As in Franz Kakfa of "The Metamorphosis " fame, ie.
"Man is an immense swamp. If he is seized with enthusiasm, the effect in the
general picture is as though somewhere in a corner of this swamp a little
frog had flopped into the green water."

Jim Hale


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhla at earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 1:51 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code


What is  " Kafkaesque"?

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 11:44 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code

Is better than 
If job.painful = true

Maybe

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 11:38 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code

<If Me.JobTitleID Is Null >
I know some jobs are a bore but this is a bit Kafkaesque don't you think? Or
just a freudian slip perhaps?
Jim Hale




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From GregSmith at starband.net  Mon Nov 29 15:32:53 2004
From: GregSmith at starband.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:32:53 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Macro Security in Runtime 'issue'...
In-Reply-To: <41AB7D0A.50800@shaw.ca>
References: <41A25CA4.806@shaw.ca> <001501c4d506$1368c590$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
	<1091.65.118.249.206.1101736992.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
	<41AB7D0A.50800@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <2749.65.118.249.194.1101763973.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>

Marty:

Oh thanks.  Kick me while I'm down.

Looks like ONCE AGAIN I've moved from the 'cutting edge' to the more
visited 'bleeding edge'... sigh.

I've not heard anything from my installers, so who knows where they'll
have to point it next.

Oh heck with it.  I'll just go play Halo 2 with my son on XBox...:) until
they get it fixed.  Now they can take their time...

Greg Smith
gregsmith at starband.net (when available...:P )




> Here is a news site and forum on Starband's problem
> http://www.abcnewsabsat.com/home.html#ia7
> Looks like a full replacement satellite won't be available until
> Feburary.
>
> Greg Smith wrote:
>
>>Joe:
>>
>>Yes, it would.  However, I'm not the one installing this program on
>> customer's computers...our salespeople are (not Access savy, if you
>> catch my drift...) and I'm not going to try and explain it to them.  I
>> don't have that much time left on Earth...;)
>>
>>But, if it does the runtime install, nobody has access to that part of
>> Acess, so they can't be changed anyway.
>>
>>I haven't tried Marty's suggestions yet...his email is on my home
>> computer which uses Starband (no choice...) for my internet...and this
>> weekend one of their satellites (the one I use) went dark.  There are a
>> whole bunch of us without internet access (I'm at work right now..).
>> Starband says it cannot be repaired (the satellite is 22,500 miles
>> out...too far for a stepladder...) and will have to do something else.
>>
>>So please bear with me if I don't always respond right away.
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>Greg Smith
>>gregsmith at starband.net
>>
>>
>>
>>>Would turning off warnings in tools options help on this?
>>>
>>>JOE HECHT
>>>LOS ANGELES CA
>>> jmhla at earthlink.net
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
>>> MartyConnelly Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 1:40 PM
>>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003 Macro Security in Runtime "issue"...
>>>
>>>
>>>Get their network guy to change the following registry settings of the
>>> following key, should help you change the security level of the macro
>>> in
>>> Access 2003. He should be able to change this globally across the
>>>network for each client PC, there is even a way to do this from Access
>>>
>>>
>>.
>>.
>>.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
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> Victoria, B.C.
> Canada
>
>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Nov 29 17:58:24 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:58:24 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Looking for TWAIN ocx
In-Reply-To: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE41114CBC@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>
Message-ID: <41AC4440.23525.F6E667D@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 29 Nov 2004 at 14:44, Neal Kling wrote:

> I'm looking for a simple ocx/activex control/library to capture images from
> a scanner in Access 2K. There are various available but the one's I've seen
> seem to be built to take you to the moon and back. I don't need editing,
> conversion etc. Just capture to the basic file types. Specifically TIF.
> 
> I'll want to be able to specify path/name, file type, resolution. The whole
> idea here is that I'm trying to remove a weak link, that being the users
> saving with the wrong file names.


Take a look at http://www.ciansoft.com/twaincontrolx/default.asp

They have a free trial version available for download.



-- 
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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Mon Nov 29 19:03:03 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:03:03 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337260@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <000501c4d678$5bf72680$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

Clueless oh well

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 1:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code

As in Franz Kakfa of "The Metamorphosis " fame, ie.
"Man is an immense swamp. If he is seized with enthusiasm, the effect in the
general picture is as though somewhere in a corner of this swamp a little
frog had flopped into the green water."

Jim Hale




What is  " Kafkaesque"?

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net






From jmhla at earthlink.net  Mon Nov 29 20:06:34 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:06:34 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Calc line total if unit price is null  X Posted
Message-ID: <001501c4d681$3c8f8360$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

Clients that like incomplete data make me nuts.

 

Building A PODetails report.

Client has prices for some things but not others. They fluctuate day to day.

 

I can calculate quantity*price

 

I need a workaround for 

 

1. Line Total

2. PO Total 

 

When some or all prices on a Product are null.

 

Sitting here tapping my receive key

 

Thanks gang.

 

 

 

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 



From jmhla at earthlink.net  Mon Nov 29 20:10:05 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:10:05 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Phone trees  X posted
Message-ID: <001a01c4d681$ba3b9a10$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

Anybody here every wish they could call some one for help when they are
stumped?

 

I am in Los Angeles. Does any one in this area want to build a support for
quick help calls?

 

I am willing to organize A Los Angeles area tree. All numbers will be kept
off list to foil bots and spammers.

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 



From jmhla at earthlink.net  Mon Nov 29 20:23:14 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:23:14 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Right Click Issue
Message-ID: <004f01c4d683$8efb7300$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

I am working on an inherited database XP. A lot of the right click
functionality seems to be gone. ( Like DB window< I would like to add object
descriptions.

 

Is there a setting I do not know about?

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 



From jmhla at earthlink.net  Mon Nov 29 21:51:24 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:51:24 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Count pages in a report
Message-ID: <000001c4d68f$dd24cb60$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

Anyone know how to do it?

 

Working on Purchase orders. If page count > 1 then I want to put page count
on all pages. If page count = 1 then no page count needs to be displayed.

 

 

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 



From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Nov 29 21:59:36 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:59:36 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Calc line total if unit price is null  X Posted
In-Reply-To: <001501c4d681$3c8f8360$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <200411300359.iAU3xux6011050@cooper.uws.edu.au>

The math fails on a null usually. 
So just turn nulls to zeros - it is a valid way of doing it

Convert a null to zero then the math will work

Eg

In a query some thing like xLINETOTAL:iif(isnull([UnitPrice]),0)

Or nz([UnitPrice],0)

 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 1:07 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'ACCESS-L'
Subject: [AccessD] Calc line total if unit price is null X Posted

Clients that like incomplete data make me nuts.

 

Building A PODetails report.

Client has prices for some things but not others. They fluctuate day to day.

 

I can calculate quantity*price

 

I need a workaround for 

 

1. Line Total

2. PO Total 

 

When some or all prices on a Product are null.

 

Sitting here tapping my receive key

 

Thanks gang.

 

 

 

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 

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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Nov 29 22:04:39 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:04:39 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Right Click Issue
In-Reply-To: <004f01c4d683$8efb7300$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <200411300404.iAU44xx6015666@cooper.uws.edu.au>


FOR the right click menu on a form to 'come back'.....
In the Property Sheet of a form in design view Under the 'Other' tab
Make sure there is a YES in the Shortcut Menu line 

RE the DB window not showing on a right click
Hold down the shift key when opening the dB
Go to Tools|Startup the tick and selet what you require

Hope this helps



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 1:23 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Right Click Issue

I am working on an inherited database XP. A lot of the right click
functionality seems to be gone. ( Like DB window< I would like to add object
descriptions.

 

Is there a setting I do not know about?

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Mon Nov 29 22:35:13 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:35:13 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Count pages in a report
In-Reply-To: <000001c4d68f$dd24cb60$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <000801c4d695$ff086d30$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

Ok, I did some research

To get count of pages in a report per FMS codetools:

				Public Property Get CountOfPages() As
Integer
  ' Comments  : Returns the count of Pages
  ' Source    : Total Visual SourceBook 2002
  '
  CountOfPages = m_intCountPages
  
End Property



Record source for text box 		="Page " & [Page] & " of " & [Pages]
Textbox visible = false

Pseuodo code

If countofpages>1 then
textbox1.visible = true

where do I put property?
How do I write Psudo code and where

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 7:51 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Count pages in a report

Anyone know how to do it?

 

Working on Purchase orders. If page count > 1 then I want to put page count
on all pages. If page count = 1 then no page count needs to be displayed.

 

 

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 

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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Nov 29 22:40:42 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:40:42 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Count pages in a report
In-Reply-To: <000001c4d68f$dd24cb60$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <200411300441.iAU4f2x6017777@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Joe

To refer to the Pages property in a macro or Visual Basic, the form or
report must include a 
text box whose ControlSource property is set to an expression that uses
Pages. 
For example, you can use the following expression as the ControlSource
property setting 
for a text box in a page footer.
Eg me.
Try something like the following in the control source of a Text Box Control
on the report

Me.txtPageCounter = "Page " & Page & " of " & Pages
Or try
Me.txtNoOfPagesInThisReport = "There are " & Pages & " in this report"
Or try
Me.txtNoOfPagesInThisReport = Pages 

(Without testing) in VBA maybe something like 
if me.txtNoOfPagesInThisReport =1 then
	Msgbox "only 1 page"
elseif me.txtNoOfPagesInThisReport >1 then
	Msgbox "more than one page - infact we have " &
me.txtNoOfPagesInThisReport & " pages"
End if
(I havent tested that little bit though)

To get the page you are on...
Debug.Print Reports("rptMyReport").OnPage


This next bit tells you if you are on an even or Odd page number
Private Sub PageFooter_Format(Cancel As Integer, FormatCount As Integer)
On Error GoTo ErrorHandler

   dim intPageNo as integer
   intPageNo = Me.Page

   Debug.Print "Page: " & intPageNo

   If intPageNo Mod 2 = 0 Then
      'The page number is even
   Else
     ' the page number is false
   End If 

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Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 2:51 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Count pages in a report

Anyone know how to do it?

 

Working on Purchase orders. If page count > 1 then I want to put page count
on all pages. If page count = 1 then no page count needs to be displayed.

 

 

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 

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From pcs at azizaz.com  Mon Nov 29 22:43:44 2004
From: pcs at azizaz.com (Borge Hansen)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:43:44 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Count pages in a report
References: <000001c4d68f$dd24cb60$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <00df01c4d697$2cfab490$fa10a8c0@Albatross>

Joe,

Here's an example of how to put no page display on page 1
(contained in control Text28 which has it's control source :
="Page " & [Page] & " of  " & [Pages]
)
and page display on rest of report pages

Regards
Borge

<code>
Private Sub PageFooter_Format(Cancel As Integer, FormatCount As Integer)
On Error GoTo ErrorHere

    If Me.Page = 1 Then
        Me.Text28.Visible = False
    Else
        Me.Text28.Visible = True
    End If


ErrorExit:
    Exit Sub
ErrorHere:
  Select Case Err.Number
    Case Is = 0
    Resume Next
   'case is = ??
   'msgbox "Enter some error text message here"
    Case Else
    MsgBox "Error in PageFooter_Format " & ": " & Err.Number & " " &
Err.Description
  End Select
Resume ErrorExit
<code>




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> Anyone know how to do it?
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> Working on Purchase orders. If page count > 1 then I want to put page
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From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Mon Nov 29 22:46:08 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Steve Conklin (Developer@UltraDNT))
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 23:46:08 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Count pages in a report
In-Reply-To: <000801c4d695$ff086d30$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <000601c4d697$828a1630$0200a8c0@COA3>

Why not in the text box record source, just put an IIF:

=IIF([Pages]>1, [Pages], "")

Steve



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Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 11:35 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Count pages in a report


Ok, I did some research

To get count of pages in a report per FMS codetools:

				Public Property Get CountOfPages() As
Integer
  ' Comments  : Returns the count of Pages
  ' Source    : Total Visual SourceBook 2002
  '
  CountOfPages = m_intCountPages
  
End Property



Record source for text box 		="Page " & [Page] & " of " &
[Pages]
Textbox visible = false

Pseuodo code

If countofpages>1 then
textbox1.visible = true

where do I put property?
How do I write Psudo code and where

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

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Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 7:51 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Count pages in a report

Anyone know how to do it?

 

Working on Purchase orders. If page count > 1 then I want to put page
count on all pages. If page count = 1 then no page count needs to be
displayed.

 

 

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Mon Nov 29 23:02:56 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:02:56 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Right Click Issue
In-Reply-To: <200411300404.iAU44xx6015666@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <000901c4d699$de3dd0f0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

My hero for this crises.

Thanks Darren

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

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Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 8:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Right Click Issue


FOR the right click menu on a form to 'come back'.....
In the Property Sheet of a form in design view Under the 'Other' tab
Make sure there is a YES in the Shortcut Menu line 

RE the DB window not showing on a right click
Hold down the shift key when opening the dB
Go to Tools|Startup the tick and selet what you require

Hope this helps



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Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 1:23 PM
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Subject: [AccessD] Right Click Issue

I am working on an inherited database XP. A lot of the right click
functionality seems to be gone. ( Like DB window< I would like to add object
descriptions.

 

Is there a setting I do not know about?

 

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov 30 05:18:11 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 12:18:11 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Looking for TWAIN ocx
Message-ID: <s1ac6510.094@cactus.dk>

Hi Neal! So your're back? Could it have been after 1? years?
Anyway, have you checked these:

  http://www.vintasoft.com/vstwain-index.html 

For code examples and more:

  http://www.vintasoft.com/vstwain-faq.html 

Not free, though cheap.
Also:

  http://www.pajant.co.uk 

By the way, doesn't Windows come with its own Twain support and ocx?

If you wish to store the pictures in a database file, look here:

  http://www26.brinkster.com/alzowze/blobs.asp 

I haven't used any of these myself, just did some research recently for
a client.
If you find a solution, please share. This topic pops on from time to
time.

/gustav

>>> nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us 29-11-2004 20:44:41 >>>
I'm looking for a simple ocx/activex control/library to capture images
from a scanner in Access 2K. There are various available but the one's
I've seen seem to be built to take you to the moon and back. I don't
need editing, conversion etc. Just capture to the basic file types.
Specifically TIF.
 
I'll want to be able to specify path/name, file type, resolution. The
whole idea here is that I'm trying to remove a weak link, that being the
users saving with the wrong file names.
 
Does anyone have any recommendations?
 
Thanks,
Neal



From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Tue Nov 30 07:11:39 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 08:11:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 2000 Professional,
	Access 2000 Runtime on Windows XP
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C499@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

This runtime issue is starting to drive me a little bonkers.  I am
running Windows 2000 Professional, using the Access 2000 runtime
deployment wizard and now my manufacturers who just have plain old XP
are not able to run my runtime installation package.  The package is
prompting the user to get files that it does not have and then their
system boots.

Has anyone had this problem?  What are my options?  Will upgrading to
Access 2003/Deployment Wizard solve the XP problem when I am developing
on Windows 2000 Professional?

About SageKey - is this product good enough to take all the operating
systems and Access versions off the table and just run a clean
installation of the runtime package? 

SO:  A) - Upgrade to Access 2003/Deployment Wizard
       B) - Do the SageKey

Opinions, please?

Thanks.


From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Tue Nov 30 07:37:16 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 08:37:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Export to rtf truncates data
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74486BB6@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

List,

We have a formatted Access report that is exported to rtf via standard menu command that is suddenly truncating field labels and field data in the generated rtf file.  This problem began when the user got a new PC.  We've checked the printer and printer drivers but the correct drivers seem to be installed for all but one printer (we've tried all the printers with the same result at any rate).  A search of the archives did not yield a result so here I am asking you all.  Has anyone seen this happen and is there a fix?

TIA

Jim DeMarco
Director Application Development
Hudson Health Plan


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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Tue Nov 30 07:55:12 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 08:55:12 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 2000 Professional, Access 2000 Runtime on
	Windows    XP
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74486BB7@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Karen,

We have an app that we did not write (open source chronic disease registry) that uses A2K runtime as well.  We've experienced similar issues on Win XP machines but unfortunately we have not found a fix.  We too are thinking of upgrading to A2K3 runtime but our problem is the install app was not written here and I'm not sure how we'll deploy (the app uses MS Graph as well as Access).

Anyway, our issue with the app prompting users is the installer running when the user picks a client name from a list box.  I've seen this happen when opening Office apps but never from within a running application (and never on a list click!).

Sorry I couldn't be of more help but I figured I'd let you know about our issue.  We've since installed on numerous XP machines with only one other instance of the installer trying to run so we really haven't a clue as to what's triggering this.  The first case does not have an Office install at all (further adding to the mystery), the second did (Office 2003 we're told but it was never confirmed).

Jim DeMarco

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Karen
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 8:12 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 2000 Professional, Access 2000 Runtime on
Windows XP


This runtime issue is starting to drive me a little bonkers.  I am
running Windows 2000 Professional, using the Access 2000 runtime
deployment wizard and now my manufacturers who just have plain old XP
are not able to run my runtime installation package.  The package is
prompting the user to get files that it does not have and then their
system boots.

Has anyone had this problem?  What are my options?  Will upgrading to
Access 2003/Deployment Wizard solve the XP problem when I am developing
on Windows 2000 Professional?

About SageKey - is this product good enough to take all the operating
systems and Access versions off the table and just run a clean
installation of the runtime package? 

SO:  A) - Upgrade to Access 2003/Deployment Wizard
       B) - Do the SageKey

Opinions, please?

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov 30 08:16:44 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:16:44 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Export to rtf truncates data
Message-ID: <s1ac8eee.001@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

I've heard of a similar case; same symptoms but no solution.

Have you turned off all autospelling, autocorrection etc. in Access XP?
This can influence on margin settings (!) in reports.
Could it be a font issue? What happens if you format the entire report
with another font? It may not be an option but could bring an indication
of where to look further.

If you find out, please let us know.

/gustav

>>> Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org 30-11-2004 14:37:16 >>>
List,

We have a formatted Access report that is exported to rtf via standard
menu command that is suddenly truncating field labels and field data in
the generated rtf file.  This problem began when the user got a new PC. 
We've checked the printer and printer drivers but the correct drivers
seem to be installed for all but one printer (we've tried all the
printers with the same result at any rate).  A search of the archives
did not yield a result so here I am asking you all.  Has anyone seen
this happen and is there a fix?

TIA

Jim DeMarco
Director Application Development
Hudson Health Plan



From mikedorism at adelphia.net  Tue Nov 30 08:23:35 2004
From: mikedorism at adelphia.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:23:35 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 2000 Professional,
	Access 2000 Runtime on Windows XP
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C499@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <000001c4d6e8$2fda02f0$0b08a845@hargrove.internal>

We had similar problems doing installs on Windows XP machines.  What files
is it prompting them to get so I can check my notes?

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 8:12 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 2000 Professional,Access 2000 Runtime on Windows
XP


This runtime issue is starting to drive me a little bonkers.  I am running
Windows 2000 Professional, using the Access 2000 runtime deployment wizard
and now my manufacturers who just have plain old XP are not able to run my
runtime installation package.  The package is prompting the user to get
files that it does not have and then their system boots.

Has anyone had this problem?  What are my options?  Will upgrading to Access
2003/Deployment Wizard solve the XP problem when I am developing on Windows
2000 Professional?

About SageKey - is this product good enough to take all the operating
systems and Access versions off the table and just run a clean installation
of the runtime package? 

SO:  A) - Upgrade to Access 2003/Deployment Wizard
       B) - Do the SageKey

Opinions, please?

Thanks.
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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Tue Nov 30 08:25:02 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:25:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Export to rtf truncates data
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74486BB8@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Thanks Gustav and my apologies for not stating that we're using A97 on Win2K.  Will try both suggestions anyway and let you know how we make out.

Jim D.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:17 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Export to rtf truncates data


Hi Jim

I've heard of a similar case; same symptoms but no solution.

Have you turned off all autospelling, autocorrection etc. in Access XP?
This can influence on margin settings (!) in reports.
Could it be a font issue? What happens if you format the entire report
with another font? It may not be an option but could bring an indication
of where to look further.

If you find out, please let us know.

/gustav

>>> Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org 30-11-2004 14:37:16 >>>
List,

We have a formatted Access report that is exported to rtf via standard
menu command that is suddenly truncating field labels and field data in
the generated rtf file.  This problem began when the user got a new PC. 
We've checked the printer and printer drivers but the correct drivers
seem to be installed for all but one printer (we've tried all the
printers with the same result at any rate).  A search of the archives
did not yield a result so here I am asking you all.  Has anyone seen
this happen and is there a fix?

TIA

Jim DeMarco
Director Application Development
Hudson Health Plan

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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Tue Nov 30 08:34:09 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:34:09 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 2000 Professional,
	Access 2000 Runtime on Windows XP
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C49F@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

My user is in California, so I will have to wait for him to get to work
to find out.  I will post back later.  It is not just me.... Hmmm.
Sagekey anyone?

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:24 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Windows 2000 Professional,Access 2000 Runtime on
Windows XP


We had similar problems doing installs on Windows XP machines.  What
files
is it prompting them to get so I can check my notes?

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 8:12 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 2000 Professional,Access 2000 Runtime on
Windows
XP


This runtime issue is starting to drive me a little bonkers.  I am
running
Windows 2000 Professional, using the Access 2000 runtime deployment
wizard
and now my manufacturers who just have plain old XP are not able to run
my
runtime installation package.  The package is prompting the user to get
files that it does not have and then their system boots.

Has anyone had this problem?  What are my options?  Will upgrading to
Access
2003/Deployment Wizard solve the XP problem when I am developing on
Windows
2000 Professional?

About SageKey - is this product good enough to take all the operating
systems and Access versions off the table and just run a clean
installation
of the runtime package? 

SO:  A) - Upgrade to Access 2003/Deployment Wizard
       B) - Do the SageKey

Opinions, please?

Thanks.
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From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:38:21 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Form flickers like hell in A2K3
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B55A0@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Can anyone tell me why the form in this database flickers like hell when
moving over the green zones or labels.
This only in A2K3, same database same form, does not flicker in A2K2....
 
http://www.ithelps.be/temp/test.mdb
 
greetz

 

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From Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com  Tue Nov 30 09:09:34 2004
From: Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com (Lavsa, Rich)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:09:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access Charts (Graphing) and resolution issue
Message-ID: <2A261FF9D5EBCA46940C11688CE872EE03AAF1@goexchange2.pghcorning.com>

Hello all,

I have an issue.  I spent hours getting my graphs to work properly on
these reports.  I seem to have hit yet another snag with the chart
object.  I have my resolution set to 1024 x 768 and my users are usually
on 800 x 600.  I take into account when developing to make sure the
screens fit on a 800 x 600 screen.  I didn't do testing on my graphs
using a standard users computer because I didn't even think this would
be an issue.  What is happening is that the graphs are getting chopped
off at the Right hand side on a users machine where they are not on my
machine.  

Just to test my theory that it had to be the resolution I reduced mine,
and it happened to me as well.  I am certain it has to do with the
resolution set on each machine.  

Has anyone ever encountered this, or have any idea on how to overcome
it.  The graphs are somewhat complex in the fashion that I have to
populate temp tables because the aggregation will not happen all at once
in a query, and most of the graphs are trend style over a month or even
yearly so they are usually wide.  

Thanks in advance
Rich


From oleg_123 at xuppa.com  Tue Nov 30 10:52:27 2004
From: oleg_123 at xuppa.com (oleg_123 at xuppa.com)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:52:27 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [AccessD] Query Question
Message-ID: <4394.212.42.94.42.1101833547.squirrel@imap1.xuppa.com>

I need a query to have 4 extra columns, which would have values from
column [book] is previous column is not 0. something like

ExtraColumn:IF [clienthours] <> 0 Then  [book]

Thank you



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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Nov 30 09:51:14 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:51:14 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Access Charts (Graphing) and resolution issue
In-Reply-To: <15414158.1101827504822.JavaMail.root@sniper13.securence.com>
Message-ID: <000601c4d6f4$6c136070$de1811d8@danwaters>

Rich,

A possibility is that the DPI setting on your screen resolution might be
different between PC's.  Go to Settings, push Advanced, and see what your
setting is and your customer's setting.  Changing DPI will affect the
resolution of the entire screen.

Dan Waters
ProMation Systems

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lavsa, Rich
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:10 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access Charts (Graphing) and resolution issue

Hello all,

I have an issue.  I spent hours getting my graphs to work properly on
these reports.  I seem to have hit yet another snag with the chart
object.  I have my resolution set to 1024 x 768 and my users are usually
on 800 x 600.  I take into account when developing to make sure the
screens fit on a 800 x 600 screen.  I didn't do testing on my graphs
using a standard users computer because I didn't even think this would
be an issue.  What is happening is that the graphs are getting chopped
off at the Right hand side on a users machine where they are not on my
machine.  

Just to test my theory that it had to be the resolution I reduced mine,
and it happened to me as well.  I am certain it has to do with the
resolution set on each machine.  

Has anyone ever encountered this, or have any idea on how to overcome
it.  The graphs are somewhat complex in the fashion that I have to
populate temp tables because the aggregation will not happen all at once
in a query, and most of the graphs are trend style over a month or even
yearly so they are usually wide.  

Thanks in advance
Rich
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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Tue Nov 30 10:00:12 2004
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:00:12 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Query Question
In-Reply-To: <668C5C868606C641857281147C46893657B807@primary.orridge.co.uk>
Message-ID: <668C5C868606C641857281147C4689365525D1@primary.orridge.co.uk>

What about 

ExtraColumn1: IIF([ClientHours]<>0, [BOOK])

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
oleg_123 at xuppa.com
Sent: 30 November 2004 16:52
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Query Question


I need a query to have 4 extra columns, which would have values from column
[book] is previous column is not 0. something like

ExtraColumn:IF [clienthours] <> 0 Then  [book]

Thank you



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From Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com  Tue Nov 30 10:16:25 2004
From: Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com (Lavsa, Rich)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:16:25 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access Charts (Graphing) and resolution issue
Message-ID: <2A261FF9D5EBCA46940C11688CE872EE03AAF2@goexchange2.pghcorning.com>

I had checked that before and all are set to (small fonts) Normal Size
or 96 DPI depending on the Windows version XP or 2000.  Either way all
are set to 96DPI.  



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 10:51 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access Charts (Graphing) and resolution issue


Rich,

A possibility is that the DPI setting on your screen resolution might be
different between PC's.  Go to Settings, push Advanced, and see what
your setting is and your customer's setting.  Changing DPI will affect
the resolution of the entire screen.

Dan Waters
ProMation Systems

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lavsa, Rich
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:10 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access Charts (Graphing) and resolution issue

Hello all,

I have an issue.  I spent hours getting my graphs to work properly on
these reports.  I seem to have hit yet another snag with the chart
object.  I have my resolution set to 1024 x 768 and my users are usually
on 800 x 600.  I take into account when developing to make sure the
screens fit on a 800 x 600 screen.  I didn't do testing on my graphs
using a standard users computer because I didn't even think this would
be an issue.  What is happening is that the graphs are getting chopped
off at the Right hand side on a users machine where they are not on my
machine.  

Just to test my theory that it had to be the resolution I reduced mine,
and it happened to me as well.  I am certain it has to do with the
resolution set on each machine.  

Has anyone ever encountered this, or have any idea on how to overcome
it.  The graphs are somewhat complex in the fashion that I have to
populate temp tables because the aggregation will not happen all at once
in a query, and most of the graphs are trend style over a month or even
yearly so they are usually wide.  

Thanks in advance
Rich
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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Tue Nov 30 11:09:53 2004
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:09:53 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 2000 Professional,
	Access 2000 Runtime on Windows XP
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C499@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <000f01c4d6ff$68902c20$8500a8c0@murphyf3vdfepi>

Karen,

We have a product developed in Access XP that we sell.  I built the install
with Wise installer 9 and the associated Sagekey scripts.  We have had not
experienced the problem you describe.  I have tested our installation
package on as many operating systems and different configurations of these
systems as I can come up with and all seem to work.  I'd recommend going the
Wise/Install shield Sagekey route.

Another benefit of using the Sagekey scripts is that you can download from
Sagekey all the ancillary files required for installation in one package.
When you use the Developer deployment wizard it pulls the files from your
computer and you may run into versioning problems.

Doug

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 5:12 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 2000 Professional,Access 2000 Runtime on Windows
XP


This runtime issue is starting to drive me a little bonkers.  I am running
Windows 2000 Professional, using the Access 2000 runtime deployment wizard
and now my manufacturers who just have plain old XP are not able to run my
runtime installation package.  The package is prompting the user to get
files that it does not have and then their system boots.

Has anyone had this problem?  What are my options?  Will upgrading to Access
2003/Deployment Wizard solve the XP problem when I am developing on Windows
2000 Professional?

About SageKey - is this product good enough to take all the operating
systems and Access versions off the table and just run a clean installation
of the runtime package? 

SO:  A) - Upgrade to Access 2003/Deployment Wizard
       B) - Do the SageKey

Opinions, please?

Thanks.
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 30 11:19:40 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:19:40 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 2000 Professional,
	Access 2000 Runtime on Windows XP
References: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C49F@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <41ACABAC.5090201@shaw.ca>

Well you could develop your Access 2000 runtime on an XP box.
Going to Access 2003 will give you a few more headaches as you will have 
to handle Access Macro Security with 2003 yourself.
The Access 2003 sagekey scripts have a way of disabling macro security 
for a specific install without using a certificate store.
For one site I had someone write a quick and dirty VB program to startup 
up access with 2003 macro security disabled..
With SageKey you are essentially paying for the testing of  their 
product with a myriad of OS and Access permutations.
You could buy just the MSI installer scripts from SageKey if you have a 
vanilla install, ie. no multiple OCX's to be installed as well.
Cheaper than buying Install Shield or Wise with the scripts.
Ask sagekey about it.
Why don't you phone SageKey  (888) 248-0055 Tollfree
They are in British Columbia and speak Canadian ;).

Nicholson, Karen wrote:

>My user is in California, so I will have to wait for him to get to work
>to find out.  I will post back later.  It is not just me.... Hmmm.
>Sagekey anyone?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
>Manning
>Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:24 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Windows 2000 Professional,Access 2000 Runtime on
>Windows XP
>
>
>We had similar problems doing installs on Windows XP machines.  What
>files
>is it prompting them to get so I can check my notes?
>
>Doris Manning
>Database Administrator
>Hargrove Inc.
>www.hargroveinc.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
>Karen
>Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 8:12 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] Windows 2000 Professional,Access 2000 Runtime on
>Windows
>XP
>
>
>This runtime issue is starting to drive me a little bonkers.  I am
>running
>Windows 2000 Professional, using the Access 2000 runtime deployment
>wizard
>and now my manufacturers who just have plain old XP are not able to run
>my
>runtime installation package.  The package is prompting the user to get
>files that it does not have and then their system boots.
>
>Has anyone had this problem?  What are my options?  Will upgrading to
>Access
>2003/Deployment Wizard solve the XP problem when I am developing on
>Windows
>2000 Professional?
>
>About SageKey - is this product good enough to take all the operating
>systems and Access versions off the table and just run a clean
>installation
>of the runtime package? 
>
>SO:  A) - Upgrade to Access 2003/Deployment Wizard
>       B) - Do the SageKey
>
>Opinions, please?
>
>Thanks.
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 30 11:41:00 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:41:00 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Access Charts (Graphing) and resolution issue
References: <2A261FF9D5EBCA46940C11688CE872EE03AAF2@goexchange2.pghcorning.com>
Message-ID: <41ACB0AC.7060705@shaw.ca>


Here is one explanation, maybe hunt around their site for further info.
They do a lot of Access printer work.

There is a bit of a bug in Graph, that runs something like this:

If you create a graph in a report where your screen resolution is say
1024x768  and then move that report with a graph in it to a machine running
800x600, the internal OLE object for the Graph, doesn't resize and your
graph appears to run out side of the OLE control.  I'm assuming that's what
you are seeing when trying to play with the zoom etc.

The only way to work around this is to design your graphs at a modest
resolution and make sure that the internal chart area inside the graph
object itself (not the ole control on the page, but the chart area) has
sufficient room around it so that if the graph container "shrinks" on page
resolution, that its still fully visible.

This impacts printing (i.e. the visible resolution of the screen), due to
WYSIWYG (haven't heard that term in a while) interplay between the screen
resolutions and printer output in drawing.
-- 
Steve Arbaugh
ACG Soft
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/attac-cg


Lavsa, Rich wrote:

>I had checked that before and all are set to (small fonts) Normal Size
>or 96 DPI depending on the Windows version XP or 2000.  Either way all
>are set to 96DPI.  
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
>Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 10:51 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access Charts (Graphing) and resolution issue
>
>
>Rich,
>
>A possibility is that the DPI setting on your screen resolution might be
>different between PC's.  Go to Settings, push Advanced, and see what
>your setting is and your customer's setting.  Changing DPI will affect
>the resolution of the entire screen.
>
>Dan Waters
>ProMation Systems
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lavsa, Rich
>Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:10 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Access Charts (Graphing) and resolution issue
>
>Hello all,
>
>I have an issue.  I spent hours getting my graphs to work properly on
>these reports.  I seem to have hit yet another snag with the chart
>object.  I have my resolution set to 1024 x 768 and my users are usually
>on 800 x 600.  I take into account when developing to make sure the
>screens fit on a 800 x 600 screen.  I didn't do testing on my graphs
>using a standard users computer because I didn't even think this would
>be an issue.  What is happening is that the graphs are getting chopped
>off at the Right hand side on a users machine where they are not on my
>machine.  
>
>Just to test my theory that it had to be the resolution I reduced mine,
>and it happened to me as well.  I am certain it has to do with the
>resolution set on each machine.  
>
>Has anyone ever encountered this, or have any idea on how to overcome
>it.  The graphs are somewhat complex in the fashion that I have to
>populate temp tables because the aggregation will not happen all at once
>in a query, and most of the graphs are trend style over a month or even
>yearly so they are usually wide.  
>
>Thanks in advance
>Rich
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From john at winhaven.net  Tue Nov 30 11:49:22 2004
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:49:22 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 2000 Professional,
	Access 2000 Runtime on Windows XP
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C49F@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <NGBBLIECOMAKBPEDMKEJGECLIIAA.john@winhaven.net>

Karen,
I have used Wise/Sagekey for 5 years now for various applications to many
end users. These apps have been installed on W95/98/ME/NT/2K/XP and server
versions. I have never had a problem with conflicts or with installations.

These products are expensive, and do require some involved learning on how
to operate Wise Installation System beyond its wizard interfaces (SageKey
scripts are just that - text scripts to be used as add-in/starting points
for the installed products), I have been totally satisfied with these
purchases and IMO they have paid for themselves. If for no other reason than
a lack of the frustration I see from others who haven't made the purchases.

John B.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 8:34 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Windows 2000 Professional,Access 2000 Runtime on
Windows XP


My user is in California, so I will have to wait for him to get to work
to find out.  I will post back later.  It is not just me.... Hmmm.
Sagekey anyone?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:24 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Windows 2000 Professional,Access 2000 Runtime on
Windows XP


We had similar problems doing installs on Windows XP machines.  What
files
is it prompting them to get so I can check my notes?

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 8:12 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 2000 Professional,Access 2000 Runtime on
Windows
XP


This runtime issue is starting to drive me a little bonkers.  I am
running
Windows 2000 Professional, using the Access 2000 runtime deployment
wizard
and now my manufacturers who just have plain old XP are not able to run
my
runtime installation package.  The package is prompting the user to get
files that it does not have and then their system boots.

Has anyone had this problem?  What are my options?  Will upgrading to
Access
2003/Deployment Wizard solve the XP problem when I am developing on
Windows
2000 Professional?

About SageKey - is this product good enough to take all the operating
systems and Access versions off the table and just run a clean
installation
of the runtime package?

SO:  A) - Upgrade to Access 2003/Deployment Wizard
       B) - Do the SageKey

Opinions, please?

Thanks.
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From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Nov 30 12:09:47 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 13:09:47 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access Charts (Graphing) and resolution issue
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF9AC@DISABILITYINS01>

>due to WYSIWYG (haven't heard that term in a while)

WYSIWYWPNGSDBAMAI:

What You See Is What You Will Probably NEVER Get So Don't Bother Asking Me
About It.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: MartyConnelly [mailto:martyconnelly at shaw.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 12:41 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Charts (Graphing) and resolution issue



Here is one explanation, maybe hunt around their site for further info.
They do a lot of Access printer work.

There is a bit of a bug in Graph, that runs something like this:

If you create a graph in a report where your screen resolution is say
1024x768  and then move that report with a graph in it to a machine running
800x600, the internal OLE object for the Graph, doesn't resize and your
graph appears to run out side of the OLE control.  I'm assuming that's what
you are seeing when trying to play with the zoom etc.

The only way to work around this is to design your graphs at a modest
resolution and make sure that the internal chart area inside the graph
object itself (not the ole control on the page, but the chart area) has
sufficient room around it so that if the graph container "shrinks" on page
resolution, that its still fully visible.

This impacts printing (i.e. the visible resolution of the screen), due to
WYSIWYG (haven't heard that term in a while) interplay between the screen
resolutions and printer output in drawing.
-- 
Steve Arbaugh
ACG Soft
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/attac-cg


Lavsa, Rich wrote:

>I had checked that before and all are set to (small fonts) Normal Size
>or 96 DPI depending on the Windows version XP or 2000.  Either way all
>are set to 96DPI.  
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
>Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 10:51 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access Charts (Graphing) and resolution issue
>
>
>Rich,
>
>A possibility is that the DPI setting on your screen resolution might be
>different between PC's.  Go to Settings, push Advanced, and see what
>your setting is and your customer's setting.  Changing DPI will affect
>the resolution of the entire screen.
>
>Dan Waters
>ProMation Systems
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lavsa, Rich
>Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:10 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Access Charts (Graphing) and resolution issue
>
>Hello all,
>
>I have an issue.  I spent hours getting my graphs to work properly on
>these reports.  I seem to have hit yet another snag with the chart
>object.  I have my resolution set to 1024 x 768 and my users are usually
>on 800 x 600.  I take into account when developing to make sure the
>screens fit on a 800 x 600 screen.  I didn't do testing on my graphs
>using a standard users computer because I didn't even think this would
>be an issue.  What is happening is that the graphs are getting chopped
>off at the Right hand side on a users machine where they are not on my
>machine.  
>
>Just to test my theory that it had to be the resolution I reduced mine,
>and it happened to me as well.  I am certain it has to do with the
>resolution set on each machine.  
>
>Has anyone ever encountered this, or have any idea on how to overcome
>it.  The graphs are somewhat complex in the fashion that I have to
>populate temp tables because the aggregation will not happen all at once
>in a query, and most of the graphs are trend style over a month or even
>yearly so they are usually wide.  
>
>Thanks in advance
>Rich
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



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From Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com  Tue Nov 30 12:19:04 2004
From: Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com (Lavsa, Rich)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 13:19:04 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access Charts (Graphing) and resolution issue
Message-ID: <2A261FF9D5EBCA46940C11688CE872EE03AAF4@goexchange2.pghcorning.com>

That sounds exactly like what is happening to me.  

I suppose there is no way to "trick" the application that it is actually
set at 1024x768 at report generation time is there?

Rich


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 12:41 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Charts (Graphing) and resolution issue



Here is one explanation, maybe hunt around their site for further info.
They do a lot of Access printer work.

There is a bit of a bug in Graph, that runs something like this:

If you create a graph in a report where your screen resolution is say
1024x768  and then move that report with a graph in it to a machine
running 800x600, the internal OLE object for the Graph, doesn't resize
and your graph appears to run out side of the OLE control.  I'm assuming
that's what you are seeing when trying to play with the zoom etc.

The only way to work around this is to design your graphs at a modest
resolution and make sure that the internal chart area inside the graph
object itself (not the ole control on the page, but the chart area) has
sufficient room around it so that if the graph container "shrinks" on
page resolution, that its still fully visible.

This impacts printing (i.e. the visible resolution of the screen), due
to WYSIWYG (haven't heard that term in a while) interplay between the
screen resolutions and printer output in drawing.
-- 
Steve Arbaugh
ACG Soft
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/attac-cg


Lavsa, Rich wrote:

>I had checked that before and all are set to (small fonts) Normal Size 
>or 96 DPI depending on the Windows version XP or 2000.  Either way all 
>are set to 96DPI.
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
>Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 10:51 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access Charts (Graphing) and resolution issue
>
>
>Rich,
>
>A possibility is that the DPI setting on your screen resolution might 
>be different between PC's.  Go to Settings, push Advanced, and see what

>your setting is and your customer's setting.  Changing DPI will affect 
>the resolution of the entire screen.
>
>Dan Waters
>ProMation Systems
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lavsa, Rich
>Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:10 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Access Charts (Graphing) and resolution issue
>
>Hello all,
>
>I have an issue.  I spent hours getting my graphs to work properly on 
>these reports.  I seem to have hit yet another snag with the chart 
>object.  I have my resolution set to 1024 x 768 and my users are 
>usually on 800 x 600.  I take into account when developing to make sure

>the screens fit on a 800 x 600 screen.  I didn't do testing on my 
>graphs using a standard users computer because I didn't even think this

>would be an issue.  What is happening is that the graphs are getting 
>chopped off at the Right hand side on a users machine where they are 
>not on my machine.
>
>Just to test my theory that it had to be the resolution I reduced mine,

>and it happened to me as well.  I am certain it has to do with the 
>resolution set on each machine.
>
>Has anyone ever encountered this, or have any idea on how to overcome 
>it.  The graphs are somewhat complex in the fashion that I have to 
>populate temp tables because the aggregation will not happen all at 
>once in a query, and most of the graphs are trend style over a month or

>even yearly so they are usually wide.
>
>Thanks in advance
>Rich
>  
>

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 30 12:26:05 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:26:05 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Form flickers like hell in A2K3
References: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B55A0@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <41ACBB3D.6040209@shaw.ca>

You ain't gonna believe this but if running WinXP change your theme  by 
right-clicking your Windows XP desktop, choosing Properties, and setting 
the Theme to "Windows Classic".
If  you cannot solve it by deselecting Use Windows Themed Controls on 
Forms under Tools | Options | Forms/Reports in Access 2003
The flickering or flutter goes away on my machine using Win XP Theme 
Classic Access 2003 and  by deselecting above option
The flickering is triggered by unattached labels on the page of a tab 
control. The workaround is to convert these labels to text boxes.
For non english speakers I found this by searching on Screen Flutter 
rather than Flicker.

For full explanation. and code to correct all forms if above tools 
option method doesn't work
http://members.iinet.net.au/~allenbrowne/ser-46.html

Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:

>Can anyone tell me why the form in this database flickers like hell when
>moving over the green zones or labels.
>This only in A2K3, same database same form, does not flicker in A2K2....
> 
>http://www.ithelps.be/temp/test.mdb
> 
>greetz
>
> 
>
>Erwin Craps
>
>Zaakvoerder 
>
>www.ithelps.be/jonathan
>
> 
>
>This E-mail is confidential, may be legally privileged, and is for the
>intended recipient only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution, or
>reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited and may be a criminal
>offence. Please delete if obtained in error and E-mail confirmation to
>the sender.
>
>IT Helps - I.T. Help Center  ***  Box Office Belgium & Luxembourg
>
>www.ithelps.be <http://www.ithelps.be/>   *  www.boxoffice.be
><http://www.boxoffice.be/>   *  www.stadleuven.be
><http://www.stadleuven.be/> 
>
>IT Helps bvba* ** Mercatorpad 3 **  3000 Leuven
>
>IT Helps  *  Phone: +32 16 296 404  *  Fax: +32 16 296 405 E-mail:
>Info at ithelps.be 
>
>Box Office **  Fax: +32 16 296 406 **  Box Office E-mail:
>Staff at boxoffice.be <mailto:figures at boxoffice.be> 
>
> 
>  
>

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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Tue Nov 30 13:38:16 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 20:38:16 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Form flickers like hell in A2K3
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B55A1@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

I don't believe this :-)
And this is known since february and no fix yet????

Pff A2K3 is disapointing me.
I did'nt programmed a lot in the last 6 months or so, and I recently
started again in A2K3.
I crash about three to four times a day my Access 2K3 while developing,
sometimes just when clicking on a combobox to open it.

I'm back to A2K2 now...

Erwin

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 7:26 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Form flickers like hell in A2K3

You ain't gonna believe this but if running WinXP change your theme  by
right-clicking your Windows XP desktop, choosing Properties, and setting
the Theme to "Windows Classic".
If  you cannot solve it by deselecting Use Windows Themed Controls on
Forms under Tools | Options | Forms/Reports in Access 2003 The
flickering or flutter goes away on my machine using Win XP Theme Classic
Access 2003 and  by deselecting above option The flickering is triggered
by unattached labels on the page of a tab control. The workaround is to
convert these labels to text boxes.
For non english speakers I found this by searching on Screen Flutter
rather than Flicker.

For full explanation. and code to correct all forms if above tools
option method doesn't work
http://members.iinet.net.au/~allenbrowne/ser-46.html

Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:

>Can anyone tell me why the form in this database flickers like hell 
>when moving over the green zones or labels.
>This only in A2K3, same database same form, does not flicker in
A2K2....
> 
>http://www.ithelps.be/temp/test.mdb
> 
>greetz
>
> 
>
>Erwin Craps
>
>Zaakvoerder
>
>www.ithelps.be/jonathan
>
> 
>
>This E-mail is confidential, may be legally privileged, and is for the 
>intended recipient only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution, or 
>reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited and may be a 
>criminal offence. Please delete if obtained in error and E-mail 
>confirmation to the sender.
>
>IT Helps - I.T. Help Center  ***  Box Office Belgium & Luxembourg
>
>www.ithelps.be <http://www.ithelps.be/>   *  www.boxoffice.be
><http://www.boxoffice.be/>   *  www.stadleuven.be
><http://www.stadleuven.be/>
>
>IT Helps bvba* ** Mercatorpad 3 **  3000 Leuven
>
>IT Helps  *  Phone: +32 16 296 404  *  Fax: +32 16 296 405 E-mail:
>Info at ithelps.be
>
>Box Office **  Fax: +32 16 296 406 **  Box Office E-mail:
>Staff at boxoffice.be <mailto:figures at boxoffice.be>
>
> 
>  
>

--
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov 30 13:46:38 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 20:46:38 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Form flickers like hell in A2K3
Message-ID: <s1acdc4f.006@cactus.dk>

Hi Marty

> You ain't gonna believe this ..

So true!

/gustav


From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Tue Nov 30 15:09:01 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:09:01 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Right Click Issue
In-Reply-To: <200411301312.iAUDCtL17396@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041130150825.04b68008@pop3.highstream.net>

Check under startup options and see if the allow shortcut menus is checked.


At 07:12 AM 11/30/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:23:14 -0800
>From: "Joe Hecht" <jmhla at earthlink.net>
>Subject: [AccessD] Right Click Issue
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <004f01c4d683$8efb7300$6501a8c0 at delllaptop>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="US-ASCII"
>
>I am working on an inherited database XP. A lot of the right click
>functionality seems to be gone. ( Like DB window< I would like to add object
>descriptions.
>
>
>
>Is there a setting I do not know about?
>
>
>
>JOE HECHT
>
>LOS ANGELES CA
>
>jmhla at earthlink.net




From mcaro at bigpond.net.au  Tue Nov 30 15:23:46 2004
From: mcaro at bigpond.net.au (Martin Caro)
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 08:23:46 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Push merge list to Word
Message-ID: <000c01c4d722$e0556810$0100000a@MITSERVER>

Hi Folks

I am looking for some code to send the results of an Access query to Word to be used as a merge list for envelops and/or letters. 

My search to date has provided various push/pull bits an pieces with varying complexity but I'm still looking for a simple push method that will launch Word with the data source in place.

Any pointers would be appreciated

Martin




From jmhla at earthlink.net  Tue Nov 30 15:30:17 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 13:30:17 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Push merge list to Word
In-Reply-To: <000c01c4d722$e0556810$0100000a@MITSERVER>
Message-ID: <200411302130.iAULUDL16603@databaseadvisors.com>

Depending on how automated you need you can start wood and use there merge
tool.

If you need more let me know.

Joe Hecht
jmhla at earthlink.net
28g
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Caro
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 1:24 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Push merge list to Word

Hi Folks

I am looking for some code to send the results of an Access query to Word to
be used as a merge list for envelops and/or letters. 

My search to date has provided various push/pull bits an pieces with varying
complexity but I'm still looking for a simple push method that will launch
Word with the data source in place.

Any pointers would be appreciated

Martin


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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Tue Nov 30 16:24:37 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:24:37 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Count pages in a report
In-Reply-To: <000601c4d697$828a1630$0200a8c0@COA3>
Message-ID: <005f01c4d72b$63e93550$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

Thanks All

I read all suggestion but putting it in an IIF seems to be what I wanted.

With Steve's help I came up with the expression below which seems to work.



=IIF([Pages]>1,"Page " & [Page] & " of " & [Pages], "")

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Conklin
(Developer at UltraDNT)
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 8:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Count pages in a report

Why not in the text box record source, just put an IIF:

=IIF([Pages]>1, [Pages], "")

Steve








From mcaro at bigpond.net.au  Tue Nov 30 17:42:17 2004
From: mcaro at bigpond.net.au (Martin Caro)
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:42:17 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Push merge list to Word
References: <200411302130.iAULUDL16603@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <005101c4d736$3a4c9600$0100000a@MITSERVER>

I need to automate the process from within Access ie Word is launched, the
data source is set and the user just needs to hit merge in Word.

I need to supply buttons in Access for envelops or  letter.... I'm aware
I'll need to setup a form letter/s in Word.

Martin

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Hecht" <jmhla at earthlink.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 8:30 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Push merge list to Word


> Depending on how automated you need you can start wood and use there merge
> tool.
>
> If you need more let me know.
>
> Joe Hecht
> jmhla at earthlink.net
> 28g
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Caro
> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 1:24 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Push merge list to Word
>
> Hi Folks
>
> I am looking for some code to send the results of an Access query to Word
to
> be used as a merge list for envelops and/or letters.
>
> My search to date has provided various push/pull bits an pieces with
varying
> complexity but I'm still looking for a simple push method that will launch
> Word with the data source in place.
>
> Any pointers would be appreciated
>
> Martin
>
>
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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Tue Nov 30 17:46:22 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:46:22 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Which Report Event to use. and related code XP
Message-ID: <006c01c4d736$cf3465e0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

I want to set some code 

          If is null [txtnotes] then

          [txtnotes].visible = false

 

I am thinking that should go into the on format event, but I do not see that
event. This text box is part of a sub report so it needs to check this for
each row in the report.

 

Thanks

 

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 



From jmhla at earthlink.net  Tue Nov 30 17:53:00 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:53:00 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Push merge list to Word
In-Reply-To: <005101c4d736$3a4c9600$0100000a@MITSERVER>
Message-ID: <007201c4d737$bc6ba1c0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

Helen Feddema Access book has something on that. I have not read that
chapter yet.

Check the group archives. This topic has been discussed before.

I need to figure out too, for the project I have been harassing the list
this week about.

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Caro
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 3:42 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Push merge list to Word

I need to automate the process from within Access ie Word is launched, the
data source is set and the user just needs to hit merge in Word.

I need to supply buttons in Access for envelops or  letter.... I'm aware
I'll need to setup a form letter/s in Word.

Martin

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Hecht" <jmhla at earthlink.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 8:30 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Push merge list to Word


> Depending on how automated you need you can start wood and use there merge
> tool.
>
> If you need more let me know.
>
> Joe Hecht
> jmhla at earthlink.net
> 28g
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Caro
> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 1:24 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Push merge list to Word
>
> Hi Folks
>
> I am looking for some code to send the results of an Access query to Word
to
> be used as a merge list for envelops and/or letters.
>
> My search to date has provided various push/pull bits an pieces with
varying
> complexity but I'm still looking for a simple push method that will launch
> Word with the data source in place.
>
> Any pointers would be appreciated
>
> Martin
>
>
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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Tue Nov 30 20:08:41 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:08:41 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Convert text to number X posted
Message-ID: <000001c4d74a$b1093960$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

Finally found big trap in inherited database.

 

Foreign Key Vendor ID is set as text. I need to convert it to long number. 

 

If I change data type to number Access threatens to delete all fields.

 

I cannot find anything in help on Cnum.

 

All thoughts apreciated

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Nov 30 20:35:57 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 21:35:57 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Convert text to number X posted
In-Reply-To: <000001c4d74a$b1093960$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <001d01c4d74e$81574e60$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

I would copy the table STRUCTURE to a new table, same name, with a 1 on the
end.  Now the new table is empty.  Change the PK to an autonumber.  Build an
append query to append the data from old to new.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:09 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'ACCESS-L'
Subject: [AccessD] Convert text to number X posted


Finally found big trap in inherited database.

 

Foreign Key Vendor ID is set as text. I need to convert it to long number. 

 

If I change data type to number Access threatens to delete all fields.

 

I cannot find anything in help on Cnum.

 

All thoughts apreciated

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 

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From pcs at azizaz.com  Tue Nov 30 20:41:11 2004
From: pcs at azizaz.com (Borge Hansen)
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 12:41:11 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Convert text to number X posted
References: <000001c4d74a$b1093960$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <00bc01c4d74f$384969a0$fa10a8c0@Albatross>

Hi Joe,
This is what I would do:
Create new Number Field in table
Update the NumberField with Key Vendor ID converted to number
Run a comparison check of Key Vendor ID and text value of Number Field
Do necessary clean up on records where not identical
Make the Number Field the new FK
Tick it Done!

Regards
Borge Hansen



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Hecht" <jmhla at earthlink.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>; "'ACCESS-L'" <ACCESS-L at PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 12:08 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Convert text to number X posted


> Finally found big trap in inherited database.
>
>
>
> Foreign Key Vendor ID is set as text. I need to convert it to long number.
>
>
>
> If I change data type to number Access threatens to delete all fields.
>
>
>
> I cannot find anything in help on Cnum.
>
>
>
> All thoughts apreciated
>
>
>
> JOE HECHT
>
> LOS ANGELES CA
>
> jmhla at earthlink.net
>
>
>
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From greggs at msn.com  Tue Nov 30 22:38:15 2004
From: greggs at msn.com (Gregg)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 22:38:15 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] To open or not to open
References: <000001c4d74a$b1093960$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
	<00bc01c4d74f$384969a0$fa10a8c0@Albatross>
Message-ID: <BAY3-DAV241E778BCA92160EB8FE92C6BF0@phx.gbl>

I have a home made security system that addresses user rights based upon their function.  My method is to call a module that is on the on open of the form that will set the Add, Edit, and Delete rights based upon the user's function and the rights assigned to that function. My problem is... if a user does not have Add rights and there is no data for the criteria specified... I get an error "can't go to the specified record ".  I understand the form is being opened without data to go to and therefore will try to go to a new record and naturally will error because we have set ADD to no.  My question is what method can I use to avoid all that?  My wish is to issue a message that there is no data to view and return without opening the fom 

From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 30 23:07:15 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 21:07:15 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Form flickers like hell in A2K3
References: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B55A0@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
	<41ACBB3D.6040209@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <027f01c4d763$9fca35a0$6501a8c0@HAL9002>

Marty:

Thanks for the heads up on this.  Just came across this today at two 
customer sites where they put my A2K app on an A2K3 machine and the flash 
was really annoying.  I tried a couple of things but no soap.  I'll walk 
them through this tomorrow .

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Form flickers like hell in A2K3


> You ain't gonna believe this but if running WinXP change your theme  by 
> right-clicking your Windows XP desktop, choosing Properties, and setting 
> the Theme to "Windows Classic".
> If  you cannot solve it by deselecting Use Windows Themed Controls on 
> Forms under Tools | Options | Forms/Reports in Access 2003
> The flickering or flutter goes away on my machine using Win XP Theme 
> Classic Access 2003 and  by deselecting above option
> The flickering is triggered by unattached labels on the page of a tab 
> control. The workaround is to convert these labels to text boxes.
> For non english speakers I found this by searching on Screen Flutter 
> rather than Flicker.
>
> For full explanation. and code to correct all forms if above tools option 
> method doesn't work
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~allenbrowne/ser-46.html
>
> Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:
>
>>Can anyone tell me why the form in this database flickers like hell when
>>moving over the green zones or labels.
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 30 23:32:55 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 21:32:55 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] To open or not to open
In-Reply-To: <BAY3-DAV241E778BCA92160EB8FE92C6BF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIEEMKCIAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Gregg:

Maybe try something as simple as catching the error code and managing it
yourself.

HTH
Jim

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Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 8:38 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] To open or not to open


I have a home made security system that addresses user rights based upon
their function.  My method is to call a module that is on the on open of the
form that will set the Add, Edit, and Delete rights based upon the user's
function and the rights assigned to that function. My problem is... if a
user does not have Add rights and there is no data for the criteria
specified... I get an error "can't go to the specified record ".  I
understand the form is being opened without data to go to and therefore will
try to go to a new record and naturally will error because we have set ADD
to no.  My question is what method can I use to avoid all that?  My wish is
to issue a message that there is no data to view and return without opening
the fom
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From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Mon Nov  1 01:10:12 2004
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 23:10:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] CurrentDB Error
In-Reply-To: <009501c4bfbd$9d132be0$fa10a8c0@Albatross>
Message-ID: <20041101071012.91647.qmail@web20423.mail.yahoo.com>

Were you doing some ADO programming with AccessXP and moved the ADO reference above the DAO? I have seen that happen before and caused problems. Just a thought.

Borge Steen Hansen <pcs at azizaz.com> wrote:Hi,
I have a some Access97 database applications that have been working for
years.
They are currently sitting on WinXP with AccessXP installed as well.

Been working on the XP box for over a year!

Recently when making a minor modification and doing a 'Compile and Save' I
get the following message on the first instance of CurrentDb

Compile Error:
Funtion or interface marked as restricted, or the function uses Automation
type not supported in Visual Basic.

I have reference to Microsoft DAO Object Library 3.6
The dao.dll is version 03.60.8618.0

Even if I try to disambiguate the thing, the compile error comes up:

like:

dim db as DAO.Database
set db = CurrentDb

when compiling it will error on the set db = CurrentDb line.

Can anyone help me to shed light on what is going on?


Regards
Borge
Gold Coast, Australia


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Nov  1 00:33:26 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 22:33:26 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] CurrentDB Error
In-Reply-To: <009501c4bfbd$9d132be0$fa10a8c0@Albatross>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIMEKFCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Borge:

I am not saying this is the answer but I have never referred to the current
db using

set db = CurrentDb	try	set db = CurrentDb()

or try the old method: DBEngine(0)(0) for accessing the current db.

Another thing to do would be to check whether there is a reference to
Microsoft Access 11.0 Object library, in addition.

I am not sure whether an old Access97 applications actually works in an XP
environment...It may have to be converted. I have converted applications up
to Access2003 without error with not issues...once converted.

HTH
Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Borge Steen
Hansen
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 6:51 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] CurrentDB Error


Hi,
I have a some Access97 database applications that have been working for
years.
They are currently sitting on WinXP with AccessXP installed as well.

Been working on the XP box for over a year!

Recently when making a minor modification and doing a 'Compile and Save' I
get the following message on the first instance of CurrentDb

Compile Error:
Funtion or interface marked as restricted, or the function uses Automation
type not supported in Visual Basic.

I have reference to Microsoft DAO Object Library 3.6
The dao.dll is version 03.60.8618.0

Even if I try to disambiguate the thing, the compile error comes up:

like:

dim db as DAO.Database
set db = CurrentDb

when compiling it will error on the set db = CurrentDb line.

Can anyone help me to shed light on what is going on?


Regards
Borge
Gold Coast, Australia


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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Mon Nov  1 06:57:10 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 07:57:10 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] CurrentDB Error
In-Reply-To: <009501c4bfbd$9d132be0$fa10a8c0@Albatross>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKIECDKLAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>


  The DAO reference may be broken.  Open a module in design view, click
tools/references.  See if it's listed as MISSING or BROKEN.  If it is, most
likely you'll simply need to re-register it with regsvr32.exe

  I none are listed missing or broken, check any reference that is not
currently checked, close the MDB and Access, re-open and uncheck the
reference you just checked.  Then try a compile.

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Borge Steen
Hansen
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 9:51 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] CurrentDB Error


Hi,
I have a some Access97 database applications that have been working for
years.
They are currently sitting on WinXP with AccessXP installed as well.

Been working on the XP box for over a year!

Recently when making a minor modification and doing a 'Compile and Save' I
get the following message on the first instance of CurrentDb

Compile Error:
Funtion or interface marked as restricted, or the function uses Automation
type not supported in Visual Basic.

I have reference to Microsoft DAO Object Library 3.6
The dao.dll is version 03.60.8618.0

Even if I try to disambiguate the thing, the compile error comes up:

like:

dim db as DAO.Database
set db = CurrentDb

when compiling it will error on the set db = CurrentDb line.

Can anyone help me to shed light on what is going on?


Regards
Borge
Gold Coast, Australia


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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Mon Nov  1 08:24:25 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 06:24:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE
Message-ID: <20041101142425.31611.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi group,
 
I've got a MAJOR problem.
 
I've got an A2K application with a BE and a FE. FE is installed on the local machine and the BE is installed on the server. Using WinNT
Performance has always been soso. Not fast but not very slow either.
 
Now we've migrated everything to A2k2 with WinXP.
 
Performance is terrible times 10!! Opening the FE takes about 20-25 minutes. Opening a linked table takes 9 minutes same goes for tables in the FE itself.
 
However, when I open the FE and if I open a table that is stored in the FE it opens directly, no problem. When I then open a linked table => bang back to 9 minutes per table (linked or not)
 
Is it possible that this somehow has to do with A2k2?? I know in Access 2 (that is two!!) you had to change OPENFILES parameter thingies somewhere. Does Access 2002 also have such a setting that must be tweaked??
 
TIA
 
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From serbach at new.rr.com  Mon Nov  1 08:54:45 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 08:54:45 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE
In-Reply-To: <20041101142425.31611.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20041101142425.31611.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20041101085445.1988690789.serbach@new.rr.com>

Sander,

This sounds like what happens when the BE has moved. And, regarding Windows XP, are you running Service Pack 2?

Do you have a link-checking routine running at the start of your application like Tribble's AutoLinker? I had to modify one of the procedures in that library to avoid the incredible amount of time it would take for a link to be checked that was broken.

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI

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> ------------Original Message------------
> From: S D <accessd667 at yahoo.com>
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Date: Mon, Nov-1-2004 8:49 AM
> Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE
> 
> Hi group,
>  
> I've got a MAJOR problem.
>  
> I've got an A2K application with a BE and a FE. FE is installed on the 
> local machine and the BE is installed on the server. Using WinNT
> Performance has always been soso. Not fast but not very slow either.
>  
> Now we've migrated everything to A2k2 with WinXP.
>  
> Performance is terrible times 10!! Opening the FE takes about 20-25 
> minutes. Opening a linked table takes 9 minutes same goes for tables in 
> the FE itself.
>  
> However, when I open the FE and if I open a table that is stored in the 
> FE it opens directly, no problem. When I then open a linked table => 
> bang back to 9 minutes per table (linked or not)
>  
> Is it possible that this somehow has to do with A2k2?? I know in Access 
> 2 (that is two!!) you had to change OPENFILES parameter thingies 
> somewhere. Does Access 2002 also have such a setting that must be tweaked??
>  
> TIA
>  
> Sander




From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Mon Nov  1 09:07:13 2004
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 07:07:13 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Access - Advantage - Mediwin
In-Reply-To: <060101c4a7cc$4a5555d0$6401a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <AMEDIDMAFJBGBGHMOEAEGEHOECAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

Michael,
Turns out is was just bad networking. I definitely find that the makers and
distributor of these big software packages can be very tight with allowing
anyone to use their data. And as a developer I can appreciate their caution.
But so much can be done for a customer in a customized manner that the "big
boys" can't offer for all.

Thanks for responding,

bob



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Mattys
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 8:36 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access - Advantage - Mediwin


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Heygood" <bheygood at abestsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 10:37 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Access - Advantage - Mediwin


> hello to the list,
> I created an app years ago that interfaced with the client's medical
> practice software.
> The software is Mediwin, which uses the Advantage db engine.
> After an upgrade to the Mediwin version, my ODBC calls fail for "Can't
lock
> all records" message from Jet. Some pursuit of the ODBC help indicates
that
> a network failure could also be an issue. And sure enough, they had the
> network guy in about the same time.
> Very odd that I can still link to the table of interest sometimes and even
> export to Excel, but can't open the table in datasheet view nor
successfully
> run any of my code.
<snip>

Bob,

I am working with another medical practice software
called DME VI (formerly Dezine) whose creators have
decided to make their own data definition files and ODBC
drivers to prevent linking to their tables without paying first.

I wouldn't be surprised if this has/will become a standard
practice in the medical software industry. You may want
to check if that's the wall you've run into.
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From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Mon Nov  1 09:09:07 2004
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 07:09:07 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Access - Advantage - Mediwin
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677217FF76@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <AMEDIDMAFJBGBGHMOEAEKEHOECAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

Jim,
Turns out it was just bad network settings during the upgrade.

Thanks for responding.

best,

bob

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 9:03 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access - Advantage - Mediwin


I recall a similar problem several years with an ODBC driver that interfaced
with a package that used Foxpro. When the package was updated the driver
quite working. The solution was to get an updated ODBC driver. HTH
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 9:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access - Advantage - Mediwin


hello to the list,
I created an app years ago that interfaced with the client's medical
practice software.
The software is Mediwin, which uses the Advantage db engine.
After an upgrade to the Mediwin version, my ODBC calls fail for "Can't lock
all records" message from Jet. Some pursuit of the ODBC help indicates that
a network failure could also be an issue. And sure enough, they had the
network guy in about the same time.
Very odd that I can still link to the table of interest sometimes and even
export to Excel, but can't open the table in datasheet view nor successfully
run any of my code.

Naturally, no one thought to let me know that the upgrade was happening. And
I am concerned that the vendor of the Mediwin software is not being helpful
because they would love to recreate most of my work themselves.

And of course, the client is now 10 days behind in sending out
correspondence that should have been done automatically from my program thru
Word....

So, any insight/comments on ODBC, Advantage, Mediwin or a comforting word
would be appreciated.

best,


bob

accesspro at nospamcox.net




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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Nov  1 09:47:51 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 07:47:51 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE
References: <20041101142425.31611.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <039a01c4c02a$256df8a0$6701a8c0@HAL9002>

Sander:

What happens if you move the back end to a local machine, relink the tables? 
Does it open fast?

Also, are you relinking the tables on open every time?

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "S D" <accessd667 at yahoo.com>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 6:24 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE


> Hi group,
>
> I've got a MAJOR problem.
>
> I've got an A2K application with a BE and a FE. FE is installed on the 
> local machine and the BE is installed on the server. Using WinNT
> Performance has always been soso. Not fast but not very slow either.
>
> Now we've migrated everything to A2k2 with WinXP.
>
> Performance is terrible times 10!! Opening the FE takes about 20-25 
> minutes. Opening a linked table takes 9 minutes same goes for tables in 
> the FE itself.
>
> However, when I open the FE and if I open a table that is stored in the FE 
> it opens directly, no problem. When I then open a linked table => bang 
> back to 9 minutes per table (linked or not)
>
> Is it possible that this somehow has to do with A2k2?? I know in Access 2 
> (that is two!!) you had to change OPENFILES parameter thingies somewhere. 
> Does Access 2002 also have such a setting that must be tweaked??
>
> TIA
>
> Sander
>
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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Mon Nov  1 10:00:36 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 11:00:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE
In-Reply-To: <20041101142425.31611.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKIECJKLAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Couple tips here:

 1. Make sure all MDB/MDE's are in the same format (JET 3.x vs 4.0)
 2. *Always* keep a connection to the BE database while the FE is open.  I
do this by opening a hidden form bound to a table in the BE right at startup
and close it when the app exits.  This is critical.
 3. Make sure the files are not being virus scanned at startup.
 4. Turn off OPLOCKS (Opportunistic Locking) on the server.
 5. Turn off sub datasheets
 6. Turn off name autocorrect
 7. Make sure all users have full read/write/delete priv for the directory
where the MDB resides.
 8. Make sure your distributing a compiled FE to clients.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 9:24 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE


Hi group,

I've got a MAJOR problem.

I've got an A2K application with a BE and a FE. FE is installed on the local
machine and the BE is installed on the server. Using WinNT
Performance has always been soso. Not fast but not very slow either.

Now we've migrated everything to A2k2 with WinXP.

Performance is terrible times 10!! Opening the FE takes about 20-25 minutes.
Opening a linked table takes 9 minutes same goes for tables in the FE
itself.

However, when I open the FE and if I open a table that is stored in the FE
it opens directly, no problem. When I then open a linked table => bang back
to 9 minutes per table (linked or not)

Is it possible that this somehow has to do with A2k2?? I know in Access 2
(that is two!!) you had to change OPENFILES parameter thingies somewhere.
Does Access 2002 also have such a setting that must be tweaked??

TIA

Sander


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From mark.breen at gmail.com  Mon Nov  1 10:07:32 2004
From: mark.breen at gmail.com (Mark Breen)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 16:07:32 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE
In-Reply-To: <039a01c4c02a$256df8a0$6701a8c0@HAL9002>
References: <20041101142425.31611.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com>
	<039a01c4c02a$256df8a0$6701a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <26a96cce0411010807180529d3@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Sander,

I wrote an email about this roughly a year ago to the list.

This is a documented aspect of the combination of what happens when
you upgrade your server to Windows 2K.  It effects programmetic links
to back end databases.  It specifically effects the linked table
connection.

There were two ways that I could see to fix it, 1) was to redesign my
system so that I open a seperate db and provide programmatic accesss
to the tables, this would eliminate the need to linked tables, they
would become local tables that happened to the located on a different
server, (local to the DAO object model that is).

The second way to solve it was to just import the tables back into the
front end and not use a FE / BE model.  I was reluctant to do this,
however, when I presented the option to the client, she was happy
enough to do this.  That was a year ago and i have had no problems
with it since.

The 'feature' is clearly documented on the knowledge base and when I
looked at it, MS had said that they had no intention to resolve this
issue.  You are welcome to see if that has changed.

Best of luck with it.

BTW, this issue did only effected databases with programmatic control
of the linked tables.  If you have a database (even a hugh one), that
just connects uning linked forms etc, then you will have no problem.

Best of luck with it,

Mark Breen
Ireland



On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 07:47:51 -0800, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access
Software <bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
> Sander:
> 
> What happens if you move the back end to a local machine, relink the tables?
> Does it open fast?
> 
> Also, are you relinking the tables on open every time?
> 
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "S D" <accessd667 at yahoo.com>
> To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 6:24 AM
> Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE
> 
> > Hi group,
> >
> > I've got a MAJOR problem.
> >
> > I've got an A2K application with a BE and a FE. FE is installed on the
> > local machine and the BE is installed on the server. Using WinNT
> > Performance has always been soso. Not fast but not very slow either.
> >
> > Now we've migrated everything to A2k2 with WinXP.
> >
> > Performance is terrible times 10!! Opening the FE takes about 20-25
> > minutes. Opening a linked table takes 9 minutes same goes for tables in
> > the FE itself.
> >
> > However, when I open the FE and if I open a table that is stored in the FE
> > it opens directly, no problem. When I then open a linked table => bang
> > back to 9 minutes per table (linked or not)
> >
> > Is it possible that this somehow has to do with A2k2?? I know in Access 2
> > (that is two!!) you had to change OPENFILES parameter thingies somewhere.
> > Does Access 2002 also have such a setting that must be tweaked??
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Sander
> >
> >
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Nov  1 10:51:31 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 10:51:31 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723371E4@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

<Make sure the files are not being virus scanned at startup.>

This drives me nuts. I have Norton System works and it virus scans all
office files. I have been totally unable to turn it off. Do you know the
secret? Maybe an exorcist?
Jim Hale

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From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 10:01 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE


Couple tips here:

 1. Make sure all MDB/MDE's are in the same format (JET 3.x vs 4.0)
 2. *Always* keep a connection to the BE database while the FE is open.  I
do this by opening a hidden form bound to a table in the BE right at startup
and close it when the app exits.  This is critical.
 3. Make sure the files are not being virus scanned at startup.
 4. Turn off OPLOCKS (Opportunistic Locking) on the server.
 5. Turn off sub datasheets
 6. Turn off name autocorrect
 7. Make sure all users have full read/write/delete priv for the directory
where the MDB resides.
 8. Make sure your distributing a compiled FE to clients.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 9:24 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE


Hi group,

I've got a MAJOR problem.

I've got an A2K application with a BE and a FE. FE is installed on the local
machine and the BE is installed on the server. Using WinNT
Performance has always been soso. Not fast but not very slow either.

Now we've migrated everything to A2k2 with WinXP.

Performance is terrible times 10!! Opening the FE takes about 20-25 minutes.
Opening a linked table takes 9 minutes same goes for tables in the FE
itself.

However, when I open the FE and if I open a table that is stored in the FE
it opens directly, no problem. When I then open a linked table => bang back
to 9 minutes per table (linked or not)

Is it possible that this somehow has to do with A2k2?? I know in Access 2
(that is two!!) you had to change OPENFILES parameter thingies somewhere.
Does Access 2002 also have such a setting that must be tweaked??

TIA

Sander


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From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 17:01:01 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Retrieve a file types default icon for use with treeview
In-Reply-To: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKIECDKLAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <001001c4c034$5d889100$9139fc3e@netboxxp>

Hello All...

Using Access XP with Windows XP

I have a treeview which includes branches representing external files
(.doc, .xls, .jpg etc.), I would like the icon displayed for these
branches to be the same as the one you would see in Explorer. I would
like to avoid hard-coding the icons into an image control as the file
records can be of any type, also in the case of MS Office for example,
the icons can change according to the applications version.

Anyone know how I can get at the default icon for a given type in a way
which I can use dynamically with an image control and treeview? Even if
it was only for MS Office file types???

Thanks in advance :@)

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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Mon Nov  1 11:17:32 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 11:17:32 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Retrieve a file types default icon for use with treeview
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB0865318D81@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

I have a VB6 sample that I downloaded from Planet Source Code.  
Should be easy enough to tailor to work in AccessXP:

http://www.planetsourcecode.com/vb/scripts/ShowCode.asp?txtCodeId=13803&
lngWId=1
 

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Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 11:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Retrieve a file types default icon for use with
treeview


Hello All...

Using Access XP with Windows XP

I have a treeview which includes branches representing external files
(.doc, .xls, .jpg etc.), I would like the icon displayed for these
branches to be the same as the one you would see in Explorer. I would
like to avoid hard-coding the icons into an image control as the file
records can be of any type, also in the case of MS Office for example,
the icons can change according to the applications version.

Anyone know how I can get at the default icon for a given type in a way
which I can use dynamically with an image control and treeview? Even if
it was only for MS Office file types???

Thanks in advance :@)

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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Mon Nov  1 11:23:12 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 18:23:12 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B54AF@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

There is a well known issue what concerns re-linking slowness for tables
in a BE on a network server.

This can be easely solved by keeping a reference open to the backend.
This will speed up you linking to the backend but also opening forms,
tables etc.

Just keep a reference to the backend as long as the application is open.
Close it when closing Access.

Erwin
 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 5:52 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE

<Make sure the files are not being virus scanned at startup.>

This drives me nuts. I have Norton System works and it virus scans all
office files. I have been totally unable to turn it off. Do you know the
secret? Maybe an exorcist?
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 10:01 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE


Couple tips here:

 1. Make sure all MDB/MDE's are in the same format (JET 3.x vs 4.0)  2.
*Always* keep a connection to the BE database while the FE is open.  I
do this by opening a hidden form bound to a table in the BE right at
startup and close it when the app exits.  This is critical.
 3. Make sure the files are not being virus scanned at startup.
 4. Turn off OPLOCKS (Opportunistic Locking) on the server.
 5. Turn off sub datasheets
 6. Turn off name autocorrect
 7. Make sure all users have full read/write/delete priv for the
directory where the MDB resides.
 8. Make sure your distributing a compiled FE to clients.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 9:24 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE


Hi group,

I've got a MAJOR problem.

I've got an A2K application with a BE and a FE. FE is installed on the
local machine and the BE is installed on the server. Using WinNT
Performance has always been soso. Not fast but not very slow either.

Now we've migrated everything to A2k2 with WinXP.

Performance is terrible times 10!! Opening the FE takes about 20-25
minutes.
Opening a linked table takes 9 minutes same goes for tables in the FE
itself.

However, when I open the FE and if I open a table that is stored in the
FE it opens directly, no problem. When I then open a linked table =>
bang back to 9 minutes per table (linked or not)

Is it possible that this somehow has to do with A2k2?? I know in Access
2 (that is two!!) you had to change OPENFILES parameter thingies
somewhere.
Does Access 2002 also have such a setting that must be tweaked??

TIA

Sander


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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Mon Nov  1 11:35:50 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 12:35:50 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723371E4@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKGECOKLAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Jim,

1.  Open NSW.
2.  Click Options, Norton Anti-virus.
3.  Under "Which file types to scan for viruses", select "Scan Files using
Smart Scan", then click customize.
4.  Scroll to MDB, then click remove.

 Do this under manual scan as well or for manual scan, add MDB to the
exclusions list.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 11:52 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE


<Make sure the files are not being virus scanned at startup.>

This drives me nuts. I have Norton System works and it virus scans all
office files. I have been totally unable to turn it off. Do you know the
secret? Maybe an exorcist?
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 10:01 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE


Couple tips here:

 1. Make sure all MDB/MDE's are in the same format (JET 3.x vs 4.0)
 2. *Always* keep a connection to the BE database while the FE is open.  I
do this by opening a hidden form bound to a table in the BE right at startup
and close it when the app exits.  This is critical.
 3. Make sure the files are not being virus scanned at startup.
 4. Turn off OPLOCKS (Opportunistic Locking) on the server.
 5. Turn off sub datasheets
 6. Turn off name autocorrect
 7. Make sure all users have full read/write/delete priv for the directory
where the MDB resides.
 8. Make sure your distributing a compiled FE to clients.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 9:24 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE


Hi group,

I've got a MAJOR problem.

I've got an A2K application with a BE and a FE. FE is installed on the local
machine and the BE is installed on the server. Using WinNT
Performance has always been soso. Not fast but not very slow either.

Now we've migrated everything to A2k2 with WinXP.

Performance is terrible times 10!! Opening the FE takes about 20-25 minutes.
Opening a linked table takes 9 minutes same goes for tables in the FE
itself.

However, when I open the FE and if I open a table that is stored in the FE
it opens directly, no problem. When I then open a linked table => bang back
to 9 minutes per table (linked or not)

Is it possible that this somehow has to do with A2k2?? I know in Access 2
(that is two!!) you had to change OPENFILES parameter thingies somewhere.
Does Access 2002 also have such a setting that must be tweaked??

TIA

Sander


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From Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us  Mon Nov  1 11:36:01 2004
From: Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us (O'Connor, Patricia (OTDA))
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 12:36:01 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] compare record fields
Message-ID: <B94C79B465542042AB0748EAF37F9AC0A42774@EXCNYSM0A1AB.nysemail.nyenet>

I don't know whether you received an answer for this

In sql you would 
Select field(s)
>From x
Where x.field1 <> x.field2

Patti
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> pedro at plex.nl
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 08:33 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] compare record fields
> 
> Hello Group,
> 
> i have a table in which i would compare two fields in one 
> record with each other.
> The result must be the record where one of the values don't 
> match with one another.
> 
> fieldA    fieldB  and several other fields
> 00123     00123
> 02345     02345
> 06789     06689
> 
> 
> result
> 
> fieldA   fieldB  and several other fields
> 06789    06689
> 
> 
> Is this possible.
> 
> Thanks
> 
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From lists at theopg.com  Mon Nov  1 11:48:55 2004
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 17:48:55 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Retrieve a file types default icon for use with treeview
In-Reply-To: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB0865318D81@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>
Message-ID: <001701c4c03b$0e888d10$9139fc3e@netboxxp>

Excellent... Thanks Brett

Mark

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Barabash
Sent: 01 November 2004 17:18
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Retrieve a file types default icon for use with
treeview


I have a VB6 sample that I downloaded from Planet Source Code.  
Should be easy enough to tailor to work in AccessXP:

http://www.planetsourcecode.com/vb/scripts/ShowCode.asp?txtCodeId=13803&
lngWId=1
 

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Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 11:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Retrieve a file types default icon for use with
treeview


Hello All...

Using Access XP with Windows XP

I have a treeview which includes branches representing external files
(.doc, .xls, .jpg etc.), I would like the icon displayed for these
branches to be the same as the one you would see in Explorer. I would
like to avoid hard-coding the icons into an image control as the file
records can be of any type, also in the case of MS Office for example,
the icons can change according to the applications version.

Anyone know how I can get at the default icon for a given type in a way
which I can use dynamically with an image control and treeview? Even if
it was only for MS Office file types???

Thanks in advance :@)

Mark

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From handyman at actcom.co.il  Mon Nov  1 11:59:44 2004
From: handyman at actcom.co.il (handyman at actcom.co.il)
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 19:59:44 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Caller ID and Access
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041101195250.05d6b300@pop5.actcom.net.il>

Hi,

I'm interested in somehow retrieving a CallerID number from my modem, and 
then displaying the caller's information(taken from my database) on 
screen.  Has anyone ever done anything like this, or can point me in the 
right direction

Thanks,

Gershon Markowitz
mailto:Handyman at actcom.co.il



From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Nov  1 13:00:14 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 11:00:14 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723371E4@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIIEKLCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Jim:

Just a comment. I have heard of a number virus have been reported to be able
to totally clobber Nortons Virus protection, if it can not catch the
invading Virus/Trojan before it has a chance to start. Hence the reason for
Norton's immediate virus scan.

You can download a small program that lists all the auto-startup programs
and will allow you to find and re-set them. Can also be used to catch the
occasional Trojan that may have crept on to your system:
http://www.cybertechhelp.com/html/downloads/download.php/id/37

HTH
Jim


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 8:52 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE


<Make sure the files are not being virus scanned at startup.>

This drives me nuts. I have Norton System works and it virus scans all
office files. I have been totally unable to turn it off. Do you know the
secret? Maybe an exorcist?
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 10:01 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE


Couple tips here:

 1. Make sure all MDB/MDE's are in the same format (JET 3.x vs 4.0)
 2. *Always* keep a connection to the BE database while the FE is open.  I
do this by opening a hidden form bound to a table in the BE right at startup
and close it when the app exits.  This is critical.
 3. Make sure the files are not being virus scanned at startup.
 4. Turn off OPLOCKS (Opportunistic Locking) on the server.
 5. Turn off sub datasheets
 6. Turn off name autocorrect
 7. Make sure all users have full read/write/delete priv for the directory
where the MDB resides.
 8. Make sure your distributing a compiled FE to clients.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 9:24 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE


Hi group,

I've got a MAJOR problem.

I've got an A2K application with a BE and a FE. FE is installed on the local
machine and the BE is installed on the server. Using WinNT
Performance has always been soso. Not fast but not very slow either.

Now we've migrated everything to A2k2 with WinXP.

Performance is terrible times 10!! Opening the FE takes about 20-25 minutes.
Opening a linked table takes 9 minutes same goes for tables in the FE
itself.

However, when I open the FE and if I open a table that is stored in the FE
it opens directly, no problem. When I then open a linked table => bang back
to 9 minutes per table (linked or not)

Is it possible that this somehow has to do with A2k2?? I know in Access 2
(that is two!!) you had to change OPENFILES parameter thingies somewhere.
Does Access 2002 also have such a setting that must be tweaked??

TIA

Sander


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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Nov  1 13:00:11 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 11:00:11 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Caller ID and Access
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20041101195250.05d6b300@pop5.actcom.net.il>
Message-ID: <418687BB.3060008@shaw.ca>

 From a few years back
You will have to use TAPI, your modem need's to support caller ID
Ughh, you are in Italy so you may have to check the format of caller id
North America had half a dozen standards from the various Telco's in Mid 
90's
It was a mess.
It is essentially about 55 bytes of data being  sent between the first 
and second  ring of the phone
It can be more data, there are a couple of formats some included the 
callers name and blocking info in addition to the number.
I can't remember if there is now an established ISO standard
I did this back in 99.

What I would do is try the trial version of Mountain Sys on your 
telephone system and modem
It is only $15 a client, but you could roll your own code via Tapi after 
getting a format from your
Telco but maybe they have standardized format  by now in Italy.

  Companies that seem to handle callerid connections to Access.

   Mountain Systems   http://www.mtnsys.com

    CallAudit Software has sample Access 97 & 95 database with
      trial software that connects thru DDE.

   There are a lot of others. 
--------------------------------------------------------------------   
   From Mountain System FAQ buried in there
   
How to Test a MODEM for Caller ID Support
Caveats.

 Necessary equipment

   * Caller ID Service From your local telephone company
   * A Voice MODEM or hardware device that supports Caller ID
      
  
  Just about every MODEM disables Caller ID as the default.
  
  For most MODEMs, the string AT#CID=1 or AT#CLS=8#CID=1 will enable
   Caller ID. 

  If Caller ID is not working, you will only see the word RING for
  each incoming ring.
      
   The most common result, when Caller ID data works, is the following:
  
     RING
    
     DATE = xxxxx
    
     TIME = xxxx
    
     NMBR = xxxxxxxxx
    
     NAME = xxxxxxxx
    
     RING
    
     RING &#133;
    
   There are other formats as well. The key point is that other data
   generally appears between the first and second rings.
  
   Some telephone companies, especially in Canada, ship Caller ID data in
   different formats, Check the software handles this.

  TAPI support for Caller ID was added after Windows 95 was released.
  Microsoft has an updated version of UniModemV on their Web page that
  includes Caller ID support. The .INF file for your MODEM also needs to
  modified to take advantage of this support, and some modems do not
  yet have this capability.

  Windows NT 3.X does not include any support for TAPI. Although Windows
  NT 4.0 does.
handyman at actcom.co.il wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm interested in somehow retrieving a CallerID number from my modem, 
> and then displaying the caller's information(taken from my database) 
> on screen.  Has anyone ever done anything like this, or can point me 
> in the right direction
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gershon Markowitz
> mailto:Handyman at actcom.co.il
>

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Nov  1 14:49:49 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 14:49:49 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723371E5@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Thanks, I'll give it a try at home tonight.
Jim Hale

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Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 11:36 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE


Jim,

1.  Open NSW.
2.  Click Options, Norton Anti-virus.
3.  Under "Which file types to scan for viruses", select "Scan Files using
Smart Scan", then click customize.
4.  Scroll to MDB, then click remove.

 Do this under manual scan as well or for manual scan, add MDB to the
exclusions list.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 11:52 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE


<Make sure the files are not being virus scanned at startup.>

This drives me nuts. I have Norton System works and it virus scans all
office files. I have been totally unable to turn it off. Do you know the
secret? Maybe an exorcist?
Jim Hale

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Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 10:01 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE


Couple tips here:

 1. Make sure all MDB/MDE's are in the same format (JET 3.x vs 4.0)
 2. *Always* keep a connection to the BE database while the FE is open.  I
do this by opening a hidden form bound to a table in the BE right at startup
and close it when the app exits.  This is critical.
 3. Make sure the files are not being virus scanned at startup.
 4. Turn off OPLOCKS (Opportunistic Locking) on the server.
 5. Turn off sub datasheets
 6. Turn off name autocorrect
 7. Make sure all users have full read/write/delete priv for the directory
where the MDB resides.
 8. Make sure your distributing a compiled FE to clients.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 9:24 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE


Hi group,

I've got a MAJOR problem.

I've got an A2K application with a BE and a FE. FE is installed on the local
machine and the BE is installed on the server. Using WinNT
Performance has always been soso. Not fast but not very slow either.

Now we've migrated everything to A2k2 with WinXP.

Performance is terrible times 10!! Opening the FE takes about 20-25 minutes.
Opening a linked table takes 9 minutes same goes for tables in the FE
itself.

However, when I open the FE and if I open a table that is stored in the FE
it opens directly, no problem. When I then open a linked table => bang back
to 9 minutes per table (linked or not)

Is it possible that this somehow has to do with A2k2?? I know in Access 2
(that is two!!) you had to change OPENFILES parameter thingies somewhere.
Does Access 2002 also have such a setting that must be tweaked??

TIA

Sander


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Nov  1 17:29:04 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 18:29:04 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] access security
In-Reply-To: <00ef01c4bdc7$26daedc0$45c2f63f@Desktop>
Message-ID: <000101c4c06a$a11a7ab0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

One thing you should do is set up relationships with child tables, then turn
cascade delete off.  This will prevent this in some instances.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

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Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 10:54 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] access security


I am trying to fix a security issue at my site. My managers like to edit or
delete records that they think are inappropriate in a product audit database
and usually fail to inform anyone of this. I have locked them out of the
backend access by the front end with the directory properties of windows for
the back end. But this also does not allow them to enter records either. But
I would also like to take one step further and not allow individuals that
are entering records into the database from either deleting or editing other
individual records. Can anyone share with me how they may have done this in
the past? Thanks in advance John 
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From pcs at azizaz.com  Mon Nov  1 19:14:19 2004
From: pcs at azizaz.com (Borge Steen Hansen)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 11:14:19 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] CurrentDB Error
References: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKIECDKLAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <009601c4c079$47c1de40$fa10a8c0@Albatross>

The DAO reference is not broken.
Reference is to Microsoft DAO 3.6 Object library
The actual file is C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft
Shared\DAO\DAO360.DLL

Since the Access97 apps have been stable for a long time, my line of
thinking is that some how the DAO360.DLL file has been updated either by
installed another program, doing a microsoft update etc. So I searched all
instances of DAO360.dll and placed an earlier build version in the folder.
Same result.

I have now compared similar Access97 application installed on another WinXP
box. These apps have reference to DAO3.51

So somehow at some point what must have happened on the problem workstation
is similar to what is described by Microsoft in one of their KB articles.

Microsoft KB303829 describes the occurrance of exactly this error message
(Compile Error: Function or interface marked as restricted, or the function
uses Automation  type not supported in Visual Basic.)
after having updated the workstation to Microsoft Windows 2000.

Here's the article pointer:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;303829

In a nutshell: When installing Windows 2000 an Access97 gets into trouble:
"because during Windows2000 installation, the windows registry registers
DAO3.60 and updates the reference in Access97 to DAO 3.60. Windows also
removes the registration for DAO3.51"

Nice eh?     Really .... nice!!

Microsoft's suggested action is to register DAO3.51 again using the
regsvr32.exe

Now, what I'd like to know is :

Is DAO3.60 not compatible with Access97
Should you only use DAO3.51 ??

Secondly, how do you register DAO3.51 back into the registry??
I cannot use regsrv32 on WinXP.

Is this another subtle attempt by Microsoft to abandon older M$ software?

Enough!

In summary: Can some one please give me the recipe for registering DAO3.51
in WinXP?

Regards
Borge
Gold Coast, Australia


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Dettman" <jimdettman at earthlink.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 10:57 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] CurrentDB Error


>
>   The DAO reference may be broken.  Open a module in design view, click
> tools/references.  See if it's listed as MISSING or BROKEN.  If it is,
most
> likely you'll simply need to re-register it with regsvr32.exe
>
>   I none are listed missing or broken, check any reference that is not
> currently checked, close the MDB and Access, re-open and uncheck the
> reference you just checked.  Then try a compile.
>
> Jim Dettman
> (315) 699-3443
> jimdettman at earthlink.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Borge Steen
> Hansen
> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 9:51 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] CurrentDB Error
>
>
> Hi,
> I have a some Access97 database applications that have been working for
> years.
> They are currently sitting on WinXP with AccessXP installed as well.
>
> Been working on the XP box for over a year!
>
> Recently when making a minor modification and doing a 'Compile and Save' I
> get the following message on the first instance of CurrentDb
>
> Compile Error:
> Funtion or interface marked as restricted, or the function uses Automation
> type not supported in Visual Basic.
>
> I have reference to Microsoft DAO Object Library 3.6
> The dao.dll is version 03.60.8618.0
>
> Even if I try to disambiguate the thing, the compile error comes up:
>
> like:
>
> dim db as DAO.Database
> set db = CurrentDb
>
> when compiling it will error on the set db = CurrentDb line.
>
> Can anyone help me to shed light on what is going on?
>
>
> Regards
> Borge
> Gold Coast, Australia
>
>
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From pcs at azizaz.com  Mon Nov  1 19:54:20 2004
From: pcs at azizaz.com (Borge Steen Hansen)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 11:54:20 +1000
Subject: Fw: [AccessD] CurrentDB Error - Solved!
Message-ID: <000901c4c07e$df13de10$fa10a8c0@Albatross>

Managed to register dao350.dll using
the
regsrv32.exe "path\dao350.dll"
command.

After deselectiong "Microsoft DAO 3.6" and selecting "Microsoft DAO 3.51" in
the reference section My Access97 apps are up and running again!

Regards
Borge

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From: "Borge Steen Hansen" <pcs at azizaz.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] CurrentDB Error


>
> In summary: Can some one please give me the recipe for registering DAO3.51
> in WinXP?
>
> Regards
> Borge
> Gold Coast, Australia
>
>



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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Nov  1 21:03:16 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 19:03:16 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] CurrentDB Error
In-Reply-To: <009601c4c079$47c1de40$fa10a8c0@Albatross>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIGELACHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Borge:

Try something like:

c:\MyWindowsDirectory\(system or system32)\regsrv32 -u DAO360.DLL

to check that is removed or not improperly registered and then

c:\MyWindowsDirectory\(system or system32)\regsrv32 C:\Program Files\Common
Files\Microsoft Shared\DAO\DAO360.DLL

To register the dll.

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Borge Steen
Hansen
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 5:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] CurrentDB Error


The DAO reference is not broken.
Reference is to Microsoft DAO 3.6 Object library
The actual file is C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft
Shared\DAO\DAO360.DLL

Since the Access97 apps have been stable for a long time, my line of
thinking is that some how the DAO360.DLL file has been updated either by
installed another program, doing a microsoft update etc. So I searched all
instances of DAO360.dll and placed an earlier build version in the folder.
Same result.

I have now compared similar Access97 application installed on another WinXP
box. These apps have reference to DAO3.51

So somehow at some point what must have happened on the problem workstation
is similar to what is described by Microsoft in one of their KB articles.

Microsoft KB303829 describes the occurrance of exactly this error message
(Compile Error: Function or interface marked as restricted, or the function
uses Automation  type not supported in Visual Basic.)
after having updated the workstation to Microsoft Windows 2000.

Here's the article pointer:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;303829

In a nutshell: When installing Windows 2000 an Access97 gets into trouble:
"because during Windows2000 installation, the windows registry registers
DAO3.60 and updates the reference in Access97 to DAO 3.60. Windows also
removes the registration for DAO3.51"

Nice eh?     Really .... nice!!

Microsoft's suggested action is to register DAO3.51 again using the
regsvr32.exe

Now, what I'd like to know is :

Is DAO3.60 not compatible with Access97
Should you only use DAO3.51 ??

Secondly, how do you register DAO3.51 back into the registry??
I cannot use regsrv32 on WinXP.

Is this another subtle attempt by Microsoft to abandon older M$ software?

Enough!

In summary: Can some one please give me the recipe for registering DAO3.51
in WinXP?

Regards
Borge
Gold Coast, Australia


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Dettman" <jimdettman at earthlink.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 10:57 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] CurrentDB Error


>
>   The DAO reference may be broken.  Open a module in design view, click
> tools/references.  See if it's listed as MISSING or BROKEN.  If it is,
most
> likely you'll simply need to re-register it with regsvr32.exe
>
>   I none are listed missing or broken, check any reference that is not
> currently checked, close the MDB and Access, re-open and uncheck the
> reference you just checked.  Then try a compile.
>
> Jim Dettman
> (315) 699-3443
> jimdettman at earthlink.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Borge Steen
> Hansen
> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 9:51 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] CurrentDB Error
>
>
> Hi,
> I have a some Access97 database applications that have been working for
> years.
> They are currently sitting on WinXP with AccessXP installed as well.
>
> Been working on the XP box for over a year!
>
> Recently when making a minor modification and doing a 'Compile and Save' I
> get the following message on the first instance of CurrentDb
>
> Compile Error:
> Funtion or interface marked as restricted, or the function uses Automation
> type not supported in Visual Basic.
>
> I have reference to Microsoft DAO Object Library 3.6
> The dao.dll is version 03.60.8618.0
>
> Even if I try to disambiguate the thing, the compile error comes up:
>
> like:
>
> dim db as DAO.Database
> set db = CurrentDb
>
> when compiling it will error on the set db = CurrentDb line.
>
> Can anyone help me to shed light on what is going on?
>
>
> Regards
> Borge
> Gold Coast, Australia
>
>
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Nov  1 22:04:57 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 20:04:57 -0800
Subject: Fw: [AccessD] CurrentDB Error - Solved!
References: <000901c4c07e$df13de10$fa10a8c0@Albatross>
Message-ID: <41870769.5030305@shaw.ca>

I have been using DAO360.dll for a couple of years on Access 97  with no 
problems
This is version 3.60.8618.0. I believe Jet SP 8.
SP4 though 6 had a lot of problems.
 You may have Unicode problems with 3.51 since it is ANSI based.
Borge Steen Hansen wrote:

>Managed to register dao350.dll using
>the
>regsrv32.exe "path\dao350.dll"
>command.
>
>After deselectiong "Microsoft DAO 3.6" and selecting "Microsoft DAO 3.51" in
>the reference section My Access97 apps are up and running again!
>
>Regards
>Borge
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Borge Steen Hansen" <pcs at azizaz.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 11:14 AM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] CurrentDB Error
>
>
>  
>
>>In summary: Can some one please give me the recipe for registering DAO3.51
>>in WinXP?
>>
>>Regards
>>Borge
>>Gold Coast, Australia
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>
>  
>

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Tue Nov  2 00:56:18 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 22:56:18 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] SQL Tables vs. Access Tables
In-Reply-To: <41870769.5030305@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <200411020656.iA26u9L27038@databaseadvisors.com>

I may be picking up an assignment that sounds like an Access front end into
SQL tables. I am waiting to hear from the project manager for the more
details you all will ask me for.

Is there any major difference between access tables and SQL tables I should
be aware of?

I think I do good table design, normalization and naming conventions.

thanks

Joe Hecht
jmhla at earthlink.net
28g




From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Nov  2 01:24:41 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 23:24:41 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] SQL Tables vs. Access Tables
References: <200411020656.iA26u9L27038@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <41873639.8030103@shaw.ca>

Just for starters the data types are just different enough to be a nuisance
See this comparision table
http://www.able-consulting.com/ADODataTypeEnum.htm

Joe Hecht wrote:

>I may be picking up an assignment that sounds like an Access front end into
>SQL tables. I am waiting to hear from the project manager for the more
>details you all will ask me for.
>
>Is there any major difference between access tables and SQL tables I should
>be aware of?
>
>I think I do good table design, normalization and naming conventions.
>
>thanks
>
>Joe Hecht
>jmhla at earthlink.net
>28g
>
>
>  
>

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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov  2 02:36:28 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 00:36:28 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723371E5@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <20041102083628.85337.qmail@web61105.mail.yahoo.com>

Thnx for all the great tips!!
I'm going to try them, ask around about the virusscan, etc. 
 
I've got a s##t load of work to do again ;-)

"Hale, Jim" <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com> wrote:
Thanks, I'll give it a try at home tonight.
Jim Hale

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From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 11:36 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE


Jim,

1. Open NSW.
2. Click Options, Norton Anti-virus.
3. Under "Which file types to scan for viruses", select "Scan Files using
Smart Scan", then click customize.
4. Scroll to MDB, then click remove.

Do this under manual scan as well or for manual scan, add MDB to the
exclusions list.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 11:52 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE




This drives me nuts. I have Norton System works and it virus scans all
office files. I have been totally unable to turn it off. Do you know the
secret? Maybe an exorcist?
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 10:01 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE


Couple tips here:

1. Make sure all MDB/MDE's are in the same format (JET 3.x vs 4.0)
2. *Always* keep a connection to the BE database while the FE is open. I
do this by opening a hidden form bound to a table in the BE right at startup
and close it when the app exits. This is critical.
3. Make sure the files are not being virus scanned at startup.
4. Turn off OPLOCKS (Opportunistic Locking) on the server.
5. Turn off sub datasheets
6. Turn off name autocorrect
7. Make sure all users have full read/write/delete priv for the directory
where the MDB resides.
8. Make sure your distributing a compiled FE to clients.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Network issues PLEASE ADVISE


Hi group,

I've got a MAJOR problem.

I've got an A2K application with a BE and a FE. FE is installed on the local
machine and the BE is installed on the server. Using WinNT
Performance has always been soso. Not fast but not very slow either.

Now we've migrated everything to A2k2 with WinXP.

Performance is terrible times 10!! Opening the FE takes about 20-25 minutes.
Opening a linked table takes 9 minutes same goes for tables in the FE
itself.

However, when I open the FE and if I open a table that is stored in the FE
it opens directly, no problem. When I then open a linked table => bang back
to 9 minutes per table (linked or not)

Is it possible that this somehow has to do with A2k2?? I know in Access 2
(that is two!!) you had to change OPENFILES parameter thingies somewhere.
Does Access 2002 also have such a setting that must be tweaked??

TIA

Sander


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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov  2 04:15:16 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 02:15:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] CheckDate?
Message-ID: <20041102101516.73568.qmail@web61109.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi group,
 
I created a routine that checks if a date is correct. Can anybody review this one? I think that it's unnecessary complex.
 
TIA
 
Sander
If Not IsNull(txtExportDate) Then
        'Check month part
        If Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) > 12 Then
            'incorrect date!
        Else
            blnDate = True
        End If
        'Check day part
        Select Case Left(txtExportDate, 2)
        Case 31
            If (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 1) Or _
            (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 3) Or _
            (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 5) Or _
            (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 7) Or _
            (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 8) Or _
            (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 10) Or _
            (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 12) Then
                'correct day - month combi
                blnDate = True
            Else
                'incorrect day-month combi
                blnDate = False
            End If
        Case 30
            If (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 4) Or _
            (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 6) Or _
            (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 9) Or _
            (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 11) Then
                'correct day - month combi
                blnDate = True
            Else
                'incorrect day-month combi
                blnDate = False
            End If
        Case 28
            'Check if month is february
            If Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 2 Then
                'correct date
                blnDate = True
            Else
                'incorrectdate
                blnDate = False
            End If
        Case 1 To 27
            'correct day - month combi
            blnDate = True
        Case 29
            'Check if month is february
            If Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 2 Then
                'incorrect date
                blnDate = False
            Else
                'correctdate
                blnDate = True
            End If
        Case Else
            blnDate = False
        End Select
    Else
        'Null date
        Call MsgBox("U heeft geen exporteer datum opgegeven! Deze is verplicht.", _
                     vbExclamation, "Onjuiste datum")
        txtExportDate.SetFocus
        Exit Sub
    End If
    If Not blnDate Then
        Call MsgBox("De datum die u heeft opgegeven is onjuist! " _
             & vbCrLf & "Vul een datum in met formaat: DD-MM-YYYY" _
             & vbCrLf & "" _
             , vbCritical, "Onjuiste datum")
        txtExportDate.SetFocus
        Exit Sub
    Else
 

			
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov  2 04:45:55 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 11:45:55 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] CheckDate?
In-Reply-To: <20041102101516.73568.qmail@web61109.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20041102101516.73568.qmail@web61109.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <18110481571.20041102114555@cactus.dk>

Hi Sander

If you operate with one format only (dd-mm-yyyy) then you can follow
this route:

1. Check that it represents a valid date with IsDate(txtExportDate)

2. If so, convert to date and reformat:

  datDate = CDate(txtExportDate)
  strDate = Format(datDate, "dd-mm-yyyy")

  Now, compare the strings:

  If StrComp(txtExportDate, strDate) = 0 Then
    ' Date string is OK.
  End If

The last step may not be necessary as it will insist on date strings
like 02-09-2004 where 2-9-04 would be valid as well.
The reformat, though, is needed to catch strings like 12-20-2004 which
IsDate() accepts as 20-12-2004.

/gustav


> I created a routine that checks if a date is correct. Can anybody review this one? I think that it's unnecessary complex.
 
> TIA
 
> Sander
> If Not IsNull(txtExportDate) Then
>         'Check month part
>         If Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) > 12 Then
>             'incorrect date!
>         Else
>             blnDate = True
>         End If
>         'Check day part
>         Select Case Left(txtExportDate, 2)
>         Case 31
>             If (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 1) Or _
>             (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 3) Or _
>             (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 5) Or _
>             (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 7) Or _
>             (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 8) Or _
>             (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 10) Or _
>             (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 12) Then
>                 'correct day - month combi
>                 blnDate = True
>             Else
>                 'incorrect day-month combi
>                 blnDate = False
>             End If
>         Case 30
>             If (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 4) Or _
>             (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 6) Or _
>             (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 9) Or _
>             (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 11) Then
>                 'correct day - month combi
>                 blnDate = True
>             Else
>                 'incorrect day-month combi
>                 blnDate = False
>             End If
>         Case 28
>             'Check if month is february
>             If Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 2 Then
>                 'correct date
>                 blnDate = True
>             Else
>                 'incorrectdate
>                 blnDate = False
>             End If
>         Case 1 To 27
>             'correct day - month combi
>             blnDate = True
>         Case 29
>             'Check if month is february
>             If Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 2 Then
>                 'incorrect date
>                 blnDate = False
>             Else
>                 'correctdate
>                 blnDate = True
>             End If
>         Case Else
>             blnDate = False
>         End Select
>     Else
>         'Null date
>         Call MsgBox("U heeft geen exporteer datum opgegeven! Deze is verplicht.", _
>                      vbExclamation, "Onjuiste datum")
>         txtExportDate.SetFocus
>         Exit Sub
>     End If
>     If Not blnDate Then
>         Call MsgBox("De datum die u heeft opgegeven is onjuist! " _
>              & vbCrLf & "Vul een datum in met formaat: DD-MM-YYYY" _
>              & vbCrLf & "" _
>              , vbCritical, "Onjuiste datum")
>         txtExportDate.SetFocus
>         Exit Sub
>     Else



From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Tue Nov  2 05:15:43 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 22:15:43 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Currency as a percentage
Message-ID: <HCENJIGLCHCJMAFKCBFKIEOMCOAA.d.dick@uws.edu.au>

Hello all

Can never remember how to do percentages off the top of my head <sigh>

I have a a form that allows users to put in any Dollar amount for a discount
I also want to put in another txtBox and allow users to type in say...5 and
have the machine calculate discounts in Dollars from the "5" value

Thus have access caculate (in this case) 5 percent of the whole and then put
that currency amount (EG 5% of $100.00 = $5.00) of $5.00 in the discount
field

Make sense?

many thanks in advance

Darren



From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov  2 05:30:17 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 12:30:17 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Currency as a percentage
In-Reply-To: <HCENJIGLCHCJMAFKCBFKIEOMCOAA.d.dick@uws.edu.au>
References: <HCENJIGLCHCJMAFKCBFKIEOMCOAA.d.dick@uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <11613143709.20041102123017@cactus.dk>

Hi Darren

You divide 5 by 100 (=0.05 as "per cent" = "per hundred")
and multiply that with the amount:

  100 x 0.05 = 5.00

/gustav


> Hello all

> Can never remember how to do percentages off the top of my head <sigh>

> I have a a form that allows users to put in any Dollar amount for a discount
> I also want to put in another txtBox and allow users to type in say...5 and
> have the machine calculate discounts in Dollars from the "5" value

> Thus have access caculate (in this case) 5 percent of the whole and then put
> that currency amount (EG 5% of $100.00 = $5.00) of $5.00 in the discount
> field

> Make sense?

> many thanks in advance

> Darren



From deanellis at iprimus.com.au  Tue Nov  2 05:10:11 2004
From: deanellis at iprimus.com.au (Dean Ellis)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 21:40:11 +1030
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Currency as a percentage
In-Reply-To: <HCENJIGLCHCJMAFKCBFKIEOMCOAA.d.dick@uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <NHBBJMFJGLBLEAIIABJMGEMJCEAA.deanellis@iprimus.com.au>

Dazza,

The formula is fairly simple. Just divide 5 (being the percentage) by 100
and multiply it by the dollar amount. This will give the percentage og the
dollar amount in dollars.

Putting it into context.

Percent field = txtpercent
Dollar field = txtdollar
discount field = txtdiscount

txtdiscount = txtdollar * (txtpercent/100)

Cheers

Dean

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Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Currency as a percentage


Hello all

Can never remember how to do percentages off the top of my head <sigh>

I have a a form that allows users to put in any Dollar amount for a discount
I also want to put in another txtBox and allow users to type in say...5 and
have the machine calculate discounts in Dollars from the "5" value

Thus have access caculate (in this case) 5 percent of the whole and then put
that currency amount (EG 5% of $100.00 = $5.00) of $5.00 in the discount
field

Make sense?

many thanks in advance

Darren

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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov  2 07:02:08 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 05:02:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] CheckDate?
In-Reply-To: <18110481571.20041102114555@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20041102130208.18853.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com>

Thnx Gustav (as always)
 
However, I added some extra checks to rule out 'impossible dates' like 29,30 or 31 februari, 31 november, etc.

Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
Hi Sander

If you operate with one format only (dd-mm-yyyy) then you can follow
this route:

1. Check that it represents a valid date with IsDate(txtExportDate)

2. If so, convert to date and reformat:

datDate = CDate(txtExportDate)
strDate = Format(datDate, "dd-mm-yyyy")

Now, compare the strings:

If StrComp(txtExportDate, strDate) = 0 Then
' Date string is OK.
End If

The last step may not be necessary as it will insist on date strings
like 02-09-2004 where 2-9-04 would be valid as well.
The reformat, though, is needed to catch strings like 12-20-2004 which
IsDate() accepts as 20-12-2004.

/gustav


> I created a routine that checks if a date is correct. Can anybody review this one? I think that it's unnecessary complex.

> TIA

> Sander
> If Not IsNull(txtExportDate) Then
> 'Check month part
> If Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) > 12 Then
> 'incorrect date!
> Else
> blnDate = True
> End If
> 'Check day part
> Select Case Left(txtExportDate, 2)
> Case 31
> If (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 1) Or _
> (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 3) Or _
> (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 5) Or _
> (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 7) Or _
> (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 8) Or _
> (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 10) Or _
> (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 12) Then
> 'correct day - month combi
> blnDate = True
> Else
> 'incorrect day-month combi
> blnDate = False
> End If
> Case 30
> If (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 4) Or _
> (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 6) Or _
> (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 9) Or _
> (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 11) Then
> 'correct day - month combi
> blnDate = True
> Else
> 'incorrect day-month combi
> blnDate = False
> End If
> Case 28
> 'Check if month is february
> If Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 2 Then
> 'correct date
> blnDate = True
> Else
> 'incorrectdate
> blnDate = False
> End If
> Case 1 To 27
> 'correct day - month combi
> blnDate = True
> Case 29
> 'Check if month is february
> If Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 2 Then
> 'incorrect date
> blnDate = False
> Else
> 'correctdate
> blnDate = True
> End If
> Case Else
> blnDate = False
> End Select
> Else
> 'Null date
> Call MsgBox("U heeft geen exporteer datum opgegeven! Deze is verplicht.", _
> vbExclamation, "Onjuiste datum")
> txtExportDate.SetFocus
> Exit Sub
> End If
> If Not blnDate Then
> Call MsgBox("De datum die u heeft opgegeven is onjuist! " _
> & vbCrLf & "Vul een datum in met formaat: DD-MM-YYYY" _
> & vbCrLf & "" _
> , vbCritical, "Onjuiste datum")
> txtExportDate.SetFocus
> Exit Sub
> Else

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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov  2 07:08:11 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 05:08:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] frmCalendar from ADHB2K?
Message-ID: <20041102130811.58524.qmail@web61105.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi group,
 
I'm using the form frmCalendar from the ADHB 2k in an app i'm using. However it seems that I cannot use the TAB-key to navigate through the form?!?!
 
Why is that? 
I already checked TabStop and TabIndex and these properties are correct.
 
TIA
 
Sander

			
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov  2 07:19:52 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 14:19:52 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] CheckDate?
In-Reply-To: <20041102130208.18853.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20041102130208.18853.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <17619718283.20041102141952@cactus.dk>

Hi Sander

> However, I added some extra checks to rule out 'impossible dates'
> like 29,30 or 31 februari, 31 november, etc.

Well, that's the point - IsDate() checks that as well!
Both IsDate("31-11-xxxx") and IsDate("11-31-xxxx") will fail.

/gustav



From lmrazek at lcm-res.com  Tue Nov  2 08:16:40 2004
From: lmrazek at lcm-res.com (Lawrence Mrazek)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 08:16:40 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Report Orientation Changing on Terminal Server
In-Reply-To: <17619718283.20041102141952@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <200411020916925.SM01564@hplaptop>

Greetings:

I have an app that is accessed via Terminal Server (Access XP Frontend,
Runtime), and have found that it is changing all of my reports to Portrait
from Landscape. Is there a workaround for this? I've tried to add the
following code to report's "report_open" property:

Me.Printer.Orientation = acPRORLandscape

But this code only works when you open the report, close the report, then
reopen. 

Has anyone else experienced this? Any hints?

Larry Mrazek
LCM Research, Inc.
www.lcm-res.com
lmrazek at lcm-res.com
ph. 314-432-5886
fx. 314-432-3304




From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Tue Nov  2 08:26:42 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 09:26:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Report Orientation Changing on Terminal Server
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C314@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

If this is an older version of Access, there is a *nasty* bug - on the
general tab of the database  - TOOLS OPTIONS GENERAL, if the Track Name
Auto Correct Info is checked as true, Access then opens up the reports
using the default options for each user.

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Mrazek
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 9:17 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Report Orientation Changing on Terminal Server


Greetings:

I have an app that is accessed via Terminal Server (Access XP Frontend,
Runtime), and have found that it is changing all of my reports to
Portrait
from Landscape. Is there a workaround for this? I've tried to add the
following code to report's "report_open" property:

Me.Printer.Orientation = acPRORLandscape

But this code only works when you open the report, close the report,
then
reopen. 

Has anyone else experienced this? Any hints?

Larry Mrazek
LCM Research, Inc.
www.lcm-res.com
lmrazek at lcm-res.com
ph. 314-432-5886
fx. 314-432-3304


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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Tue Nov  2 08:54:48 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 09:54:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Comparing Values of Fields
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C315@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

We are maintaining a parts database.  I have the master parts database
for manufacturers in a table named tblParts.  The manufacturer submits
to us an updated parts list in a table named tblMrfParts.

tblParts contains 25 fields.

tblMfrParts contains the same 25 fields.

I need to compare the values in the 25 fields, tying part number to part
number.  If the value in the tblMfrParts is different for that part
number for any field, show our database field value and the
manufacturers field value.  

Suggestions?  Come on, I answered a question today...


From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk  Tue Nov  2 09:14:31 2004
From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 15:14:31 -0000 
Subject: [AccessD] Comparing Values of Fields
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318805CED744@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

When I needed to do this is did it in DAO (it was a while ago). I don't have
time to hunt the code out, but basically if you open a recordset for each
table you can then loop through the first recordset, finding the matching
row in the 2nd recordset, and then (if the fields are in the same order)
simply loop through the fields collection of both recordsets looking for
non-matching fields. Where you get a mismatch you can output the values of
both fields to a temp table. Then move on to the next row in rs1 and so
forth.

HTH

Roz

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To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Comparing Values of Fields


We are maintaining a parts database.  I have the master parts database for
manufacturers in a table named tblParts.  The manufacturer submits to us an
updated parts list in a table named tblMrfParts.

tblParts contains 25 fields.

tblMfrParts contains the same 25 fields.

I need to compare the values in the 25 fields, tying part number to part
number.  If the value in the tblMfrParts is different for that part number
for any field, show our database field value and the manufacturers field
value.  

Suggestions?  Come on, I answered a question today...
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From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Nov  2 09:37:00 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 10:37:00 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Comparing Values of Fields
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF948@DISABILITYINS01>

IN SQL you can do this using aliased fields to find the differences:

SELECT MyFld1, TheirFld1, NoMathcFld1: MyFld1 <> TheirFld1, 
	MyFld2, TheirFld2, NoMathcFld2: MyFld2 <> TheirFld2,
	....

Thus any true in any NoMatchFldX is a place where the field values don't
match.

In the where clause do a huge NoMatchFld1 OR NoMatchFld2 etc to pull all
such records.

Now you have all of the records with some field that doesn't match and
indicator flags telling you which field(s).  I am confident you can take it
from there.  ;-)

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholson, Karen [mailto:cyx5 at cdc.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 9:55 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Comparing Values of Fields


We are maintaining a parts database.  I have the master parts database
for manufacturers in a table named tblParts.  The manufacturer submits
to us an updated parts list in a table named tblMrfParts.

tblParts contains 25 fields.

tblMfrParts contains the same 25 fields.

I need to compare the values in the 25 fields, tying part number to part
number.  If the value in the tblMfrParts is different for that part
number for any field, show our database field value and the
manufacturers field value.  

Suggestions?  Come on, I answered a question today...
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov  2 09:40:32 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 16:40:32 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Comparing Values of Fields
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C315@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
References: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C315@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <17528158880.20041102164032@cactus.dk>

Hi Karen

Apart from the obvious (comparing each pair of fields in a query) you
can calculate for each record an MD5 or SHA-256 hash value of a string
build by concatenating the formatted values:

  http://www.frez.co.uk/freecode.htm#md5

The retrieve those records where the hash values don't match.
You could also calculate the CRC value.

/gustav


> Date: 2004-11-02 15:54

> We are maintaining a parts database.  I have the master parts database
> for manufacturers in a table named tblParts.  The manufacturer submits
> to us an updated parts list in a table named tblMrfParts.

> tblParts contains 25 fields.

> tblMfrParts contains the same 25 fields.

> I need to compare the values in the 25 fields, tying part number to part
> number.  If the value in the tblMfrParts is different for that part
> number for any field, show our database field value and the
> manufacturers field value.  

> Suggestions?  Come on, I answered a question today...



From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Nov  2 10:51:33 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 11:51:33 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] TOP 1 kinda thing
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF949@DISABILITYINS01>

I have a situation where a claim can have more than one ATP

CLID	ATPID
1	1
1	2
1	3
2	4
2	5
3	6
3	7
3	8

I need to select only the first ATPID such that the result set looks like:

CLID	ATPID
1	1
2	4
3	6

Is it possible to do this directly in SQL?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy



From CMackin at quiznos.com  Tue Nov  2 10:57:24 2004
From: CMackin at quiznos.com (Mackin, Christopher)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 09:57:24 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] TOP 1 kinda thing
Message-ID: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27F0B9@snowmass.quiznos.net>

SELECT CLID, MIN(ATPID) AS MinATPID
FROM WhateverTable
GROUP BY CLID

Will take care of it.

-Chris Mackin

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 9:52 AM
To: 'AccessD at DatabaseAdvisors.com'
Subject: [AccessD] TOP 1 kinda thing


I have a situation where a claim can have more than one ATP

CLID	ATPID
1	1
1	2
1	3
2	4
2	5
3	6
3	7
3	8

I need to select only the first ATPID such that the result set looks like:

CLID	ATPID
1	1
2	4
3	6

Is it possible to do this directly in SQL?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov  2 11:03:56 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 18:03:56 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] TOP 1 kinda thing
In-Reply-To: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF949@DISABILITYINS01>
References: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF949@DISABILITYINS01>
Message-ID: <14933162254.20041102180356@cactus.dk>

Hi John

How about a Group By CLID selecting MIN(ATPID)?

/gustav


> I have a situation where a claim can have more than one ATP

> CLID    ATPID
> 1       1
> 1       2
> 1       3
> 2       4
> 2       5
> 3       6
> 3       7
> 3       8

> I need to select only the first ATPID such that the result set looks like:

> CLID    ATPID
> 1       1
> 2       4
> 3       6

> Is it possible to do this directly in SQL?

> John W. Colby
> The DIS Database Guy



From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Nov  2 11:12:00 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 12:12:00 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] TOP 1 kinda thing
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF94A@DISABILITYINS01>

Thanks, that was what I was looking for.  

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Mackin, Christopher [mailto:CMackin at quiznos.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 11:57 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] TOP 1 kinda thing


SELECT CLID, MIN(ATPID) AS MinATPID
FROM WhateverTable
GROUP BY CLID

Will take care of it.

-Chris Mackin

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 9:52 AM
To: 'AccessD at DatabaseAdvisors.com'
Subject: [AccessD] TOP 1 kinda thing


I have a situation where a claim can have more than one ATP

CLID	ATPID
1	1
1	2
1	3
2	4
2	5
3	6
3	7
3	8

I need to select only the first ATPID such that the result set looks like:

CLID	ATPID
1	1
2	4
3	6

Is it possible to do this directly in SQL?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy

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From handyman at actcom.co.il  Tue Nov  2 11:07:46 2004
From: handyman at actcom.co.il (handyman at actcom.co.il)
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 19:07:46 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Caller ID and Access
In-Reply-To: <418687BB.3060008@shaw.ca>
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20041101195250.05d6b300@pop5.actcom.net.il>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041102190512.0291ad90@pop5.actcom.net.il>

Thanks!

This program from Mountain Systems seems to do a lot of the stuff I want. 
Since it stores all information in an Access database, I can just integrate 
it with my database with some work.

Thanks again!

gm

  At 11:00 AM, 11/1/2004 -0800, you wrote:
> From a few years back
>You will have to use TAPI, your modem need's to support caller ID
>Ughh, you are in Italy so you may have to check the format of caller id
>North America had half a dozen standards from the various Telco's in Mid 90's
>It was a mess.
>It is essentially about 55 bytes of data being  sent between the first and 
>second  ring of the phone
>It can be more data, there are a couple of formats some included the 
>callers name and blocking info in addition to the number.
>I can't remember if there is now an established ISO standard
>I did this back in 99.
>
>What I would do is try the trial version of Mountain Sys on your telephone 
>system and modem
>It is only $15 a client, but you could roll your own code via Tapi after 
>getting a format from your
>Telco but maybe they have standardized format  by now in Italy.
>
>  Companies that seem to handle callerid connections to Access.
>
>   Mountain Systems   http://www.mtnsys.com
>
>    CallAudit Software has sample Access 97 & 95 database with
>      trial software that connects thru DDE.
>
>   There are a lot of others. 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>   From Mountain System FAQ buried in there
>
>How to Test a MODEM for Caller ID Support
>Caveats.
>
>Necessary equipment
>
>   * Caller ID Service From your local telephone company
>   * A Voice MODEM or hardware device that supports Caller ID
>
>
>  Just about every MODEM disables Caller ID as the default.
>
>  For most MODEMs, the string AT#CID=1 or AT#CLS=8#CID=1 will enable
>   Caller ID.
>  If Caller ID is not working, you will only see the word RING for
>  each incoming ring.
>
>   The most common result, when Caller ID data works, is the following:
>
>     RING
>
>     DATE = xxxxx
>
>     TIME = xxxx
>
>     NMBR = xxxxxxxxx
>
>     NAME = xxxxxxxx
>
>     RING
>
>     RING &#133;
>
>   There are other formats as well. The key point is that other data
>   generally appears between the first and second rings.
>
>   Some telephone companies, especially in Canada, ship Caller ID data in
>   different formats, Check the software handles this.
>
>  TAPI support for Caller ID was added after Windows 95 was released.
>  Microsoft has an updated version of UniModemV on their Web page that
>  includes Caller ID support. The .INF file for your MODEM also needs to
>  modified to take advantage of this support, and some modems do not
>  yet have this capability.
>
>  Windows NT 3.X does not include any support for TAPI. Although Windows
>  NT 4.0 does.
>handyman at actcom.co.il wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I'm interested in somehow retrieving a CallerID number from my modem, and 
>>then displaying the caller's information(taken from my database) on 
>>screen.  Has anyone ever done anything like this, or can point me in the 
>>right direction
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Gershon Markowitz
>>mailto:Handyman at actcom.co.il
>
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>Victoria, B.C.
>Canada
>
>
>
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From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Nov  2 11:24:15 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 12:24:15 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] TOP 1 kinda thing
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF94B@DISABILITYINS01>

Yep, that did it.  Thanks.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:04 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] TOP 1 kinda thing


Hi John

How about a Group By CLID selecting MIN(ATPID)?

/gustav


> I have a situation where a claim can have more than one ATP

> CLID    ATPID
> 1       1
> 1       2
> 1       3
> 2       4
> 2       5
> 3       6
> 3       7
> 3       8

> I need to select only the first ATPID such that the result set looks like:

> CLID    ATPID
> 1       1
> 2       4
> 3       6

> Is it possible to do this directly in SQL?

> John W. Colby
> The DIS Database Guy

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From mnptl at sonmedia.com  Tue Nov  2 11:39:23 2004
From: mnptl at sonmedia.com (mnptl at sonmedia.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 12:39:23 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [AccessD] Time Synchronization
Message-ID: <35609.10.235.219.133.1099417163.webmail@10.235.219.133>

Does anyone know of any VBA code to be placed within an Access application
that can easily poll an Internet-based time server, and return that time
to a variable?  Searching through the archives hasn't come up with
naything ... yet ...

Thanks,

Mark Naud?









From Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us  Tue Nov  2 11:43:08 2004
From: Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us (O'Connor, Patricia (OTDA))
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 12:43:08 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Form design question
Message-ID: <B94C79B465542042AB0748EAF37F9AC0A4277B@EXCNYSM0A1AB.nysemail.nyenet>



I think you are talking about a continuous subform

The main form would contain the order number, order date etc
The subform would contain a line for each product, the quantity and
amount.

If you are looking at it for data entry, then you can use dropdown box
that links to product table to select the product, etc.

Hth
Patti

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> accma at sympatico.ca
> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 01:07 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Form design question
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm wondering if it's possible to have multiple sections in a 
> forms like in a report.  I don't exactly know how to explane 
> this so I'll demontrate it as best as I can.  On a form, I 
> want to display all the products available.  That form would 
> be the order entry form.  What I would like to do is put 
> multiple column like this : product #, qt, price, product #, 
> qt, price, product #, qt, price.  The second and third 
> "product #, qt, price" would be the continuing of the first column.
> 
> Is this even possible and if so, how can I do this?
> 
> Tanks!
> 
> Annie
> 
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From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Tue Nov  2 12:16:29 2004
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 18:16:29 -0000 
Subject: [AccessD] Time Synchronization
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C433@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>

Hi Mark!

Would it not be easier to synch the clock on the host machine with a NTP
server and then get that via Date() Time() etc?

Or does the time function need to be totally encapsulated in the Access app?

Regards!
Chris Foote


> -----Original Message-----
> From: mnptl at sonmedia.com [mailto:mnptl at sonmedia.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 5:39 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Time Synchronization
> 
> 
> Does anyone know of any VBA code to be placed within an 
> Access application
> that can easily poll an Internet-based time server, and 
> return that time
> to a variable?  Searching through the archives hasn't come up with
> naything ... yet ...
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark Naud?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From artful at rogers.com  Tue Nov  2 12:40:38 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 13:40:38 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] SQL Tables vs. Access Tables
In-Reply-To: <200411020656.iA26u9L27038@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <200411020656.iA26u9L27038@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <4187D4A6.1090003@rogers.com>

Joe Hecht wrote:

>I may be picking up an assignment that sounds like an Access front end into
>SQL tables. I am waiting to hear from the project manager for the more
>details you all will ask me for.
>
>Is there any major difference between access tables and SQL tables I should
>be aware of?
>
>I think I do good table design, normalization and naming conventions.
>
>thanks
>
>Joe Hecht
>jmhla at earthlink.net
>28g
>
>
>  
>
I would suggest the following:

1. Design it in Access, where you're comfortable. Then use the upsizing 
wizard to move it to SS when you're ready. Make sure that every 
combo/list/form etc. uses a named query, NOT a select statement. To save 
yourself some issues down the road, where you would normally bind a form 
to a table, create a named query (even if it's nothing more than SELECT 
* FROM MyTable) for every form. This will save you a lot of hassle in 
the converted app.

2. Get a copy of SQL: Access to SQL Server, by our own Harkins and Reid.

3. Many of the things that we are comfortable in doing in Access are 
quite the wrong approach with SQL Server, in terms of best practices. 
This part cannot be communicated in a simple email message, but in 
general it reduces to this: the old practice of binding forms to tables 
is all wrong. Even if you substitute queries for the tables, if it's 
SELECT * it's all wrong (unless the table is very small). The number of 
times a user actually wants to see all the rows is relatively small. To 
give one example, a form showing Sales might start with a datasheet or 
continuous form that shows only the most important columns. Instead of 
showing all the sales, you might have 3 or 4 buttons on it, Sales30, 
Sales60, Sales90 and All. Each of these would change the data source to 
a stored procedure that says something like SELECT MyColumns FROM Sales 
WHERE SaleDate > GetDate() - 30. And so on. This results in lightning 
performance, which is usually demanded in a SQL Server app.

4. If all else fails, hire me. LOL.

Arthur


From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Tue Nov  2 14:10:01 2004
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 12:10:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
Message-ID: <20041102201001.60145.qmail@web20424.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello all,
 
I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)
 
Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As Long) As Long
Dim dwReturn As Long
Const SW_HIDE = 0
Const SW_SHOWNORMAL = 1
Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....
 
It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?
 
I know there is an answer out there somewhere!
 
Thanks in advance.



May God bless you beyond your imagination!
Lonnie Johnson
ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us





 





			
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From mnptl at sonmedia.com  Tue Nov  2 14:20:38 2004
From: mnptl at sonmedia.com (mnptl at sonmedia.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 15:20:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [AccessD] Time Synchronization
In-Reply-To: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C433@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>
References: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C433@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>
Message-ID: <58926.10.235.219.133.1099426838.webmail@10.235.219.133>

Hi Chris - yes, TECHNICALLY that would be a lot easier!  PROCEDURALLY,
that could take months!  I'm currently assisting a pharmaceutical company
with ensuring that they meet all FDA regulations, especially those
concerning electronic records.

The concept of handling their time synchronization in a centralized way is
somewhat new, and will have to go up the chain of command to head office,
mulled over, a policy put in place, local IT procedures created, and then
the technical controls instituted...  a very long process.

I was hoping that there was something similar to:

command.com /c net time \\<servername> /set /y

that could use for synchronizing the local machine's time to a "standard"
clock available on the Internet, such as NIST.  I tried the command above
with:

command.com /c net time \\129.6.15.28 /set /y

... (which is one of the NIST time server IP addresses) but with no
success.  It CAN be used for synchronizing with the back-end server, but I
was hoping for something more thorough!

Let me know if you know of any other way.

Thanks,

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: "Foote, Chris" <Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Time Synchronization

Hi Mark!

Would it not be easier to synch the clock on the host machine with a NTP
server and then get that via Date() Time() etc?

Or does the time function need to be totally encapsulated in the Access app?

Regards!
Chris Foote

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 5:39 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Time Synchronization

Does anyone know of any VBA code to be placed within an Access application
that can easily poll an Internet-based time server, and return that time
to a variable?  Searching through the archives hasn't come up with
anything ... yet ...






From JHewson at karta.com  Tue Nov  2 14:22:14 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 14:22:14 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068C6B@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

Lonnie,
If you mean print from the preview, you'll need to have a custom menu.
If you mean print from a button click without preview: DoCmd.OpenReport "SomeReport" works well.
Did I miss something?
HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 2:10 PM
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access;
AccessD solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,
 
I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)
 
Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As Long) As Long
Dim dwReturn As Long
Const SW_HIDE = 0
Const SW_SHOWNORMAL = 1
Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....
 
It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?
 
I know there is an answer out there somewhere!
 
Thanks in advance.



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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Nov  2 14:33:35 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 14:33:35 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Time Synchronization
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D055@main2.marlow.com>

I wrote a sync program in VB.  You could use it in Access, just uses the
Winsock control.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: mnptl at sonmedia.com [mailto:mnptl at sonmedia.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 2:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Time Synchronization


Hi Chris - yes, TECHNICALLY that would be a lot easier!  PROCEDURALLY,
that could take months!  I'm currently assisting a pharmaceutical company
with ensuring that they meet all FDA regulations, especially those
concerning electronic records.

The concept of handling their time synchronization in a centralized way is
somewhat new, and will have to go up the chain of command to head office,
mulled over, a policy put in place, local IT procedures created, and then
the technical controls instituted...  a very long process.

I was hoping that there was something similar to:

command.com /c net time \\<servername> /set /y

that could use for synchronizing the local machine's time to a "standard"
clock available on the Internet, such as NIST.  I tried the command above
with:

command.com /c net time \\129.6.15.28 /set /y

... (which is one of the NIST time server IP addresses) but with no
success.  It CAN be used for synchronizing with the back-end server, but I
was hoping for something more thorough!

Let me know if you know of any other way.

Thanks,

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: "Foote, Chris" <Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Time Synchronization

Hi Mark!

Would it not be easier to synch the clock on the host machine with a NTP
server and then get that via Date() Time() etc?

Or does the time function need to be totally encapsulated in the Access app?

Regards!
Chris Foote

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 5:39 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Time Synchronization

Does anyone know of any VBA code to be placed within an Access application
that can easily poll an Internet-based time server, and return that time
to a variable?  Searching through the archives hasn't come up with
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Tue Nov  2 14:44:52 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 15:44:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30A0BB29@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB98F@ADGSERVER>

Can't you right-click and choose Print?

Bobby

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Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:10 PM
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access; AccessD
solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,
 
I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just shows
a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)
 
Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As Long)
As Long Dim dwReturn As Long Const SW_HIDE = 0 Const SW_SHOWNORMAL = 1 Const
SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....
 
It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview reports.
However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?
 
I know there is an answer out there somewhere!
 
Thanks in advance.



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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Tue Nov  2 14:44:11 2004
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 15:44:11 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A2742@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

I've not tried this out, but you can probably do this by previewing the
report and displaying a small Pop-up form with the buttons needed to print,
quit, save to file etc.

I do this kind of thing in a 'normal' access project, with the Access window
visible, opening the report with code like this...


    PrintPreview "SomeReport", me.Name
    While IsLoaded("PrintPreviewFrm")
        DoEvents
    Wend

The routine PrintPreview  takes the name of the report and the calling form
as parameters and then opens the form PrintPreviewFrm which in turn opens
the report in preview mode.

The while loop then pauses the calling code until the form is closed.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
> Sent:	Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:22 PM
> To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject:	RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
> 
> Lonnie,
> If you mean print from the preview, you'll need to have a custom menu.
> If you mean print from a button click without preview: DoCmd.OpenReport
> "SomeReport" works well.
> Did I miss something?
> HTH
> Jim
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 2:10 PM
> To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access;
> AccessD solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
> 
> 
> Hello all,
>  
> I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just
> shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)
>  
> Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As Long)
> As Long
> Dim dwReturn As Long
> Const SW_HIDE = 0
> Const SW_SHOWNORMAL = 1
> Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....
>  
> It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview
> reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?
>  
> I know there is an answer out there somewhere!
>  
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> 
> May God bless you beyond your imagination!
> Lonnie Johnson
> ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
> Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Nov  2 15:04:23 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 13:04:23 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B33@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Have you created a shortcut menu for the report?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Can't you right-click and choose Print?

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie
Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:10 PM
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access;
AccessD solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,
 
I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just
shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)
 
Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As
Long) As Long Dim dwReturn As Long Const SW_HIDE = 0 Const SW_SHOWNORMAL
= 1 Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....
 
It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview
reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?
 
I know there is an answer out there somewhere!
 
Thanks in advance.



May God bless you beyond your imagination!
Lonnie Johnson
ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us





 





			
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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Tue Nov  2 15:12:48 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 22:12:48 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Caller ID and Access
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B54C5@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

If you have ISDN you gonna need a ISDN card with CAPI support.
There is some VB code out there to use CAPI in access.
I have such an Access DB that use a CAPI control for wich the VB code
was available.

Dont know the website anymore, it was several years ago.

This only works with ISDN and a CAPI supported card like Eicon

Erwin

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
handyman at actcom.co.il
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 6:08 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Caller ID and Access

Thanks!

This program from Mountain Systems seems to do a lot of the stuff I
want. 
Since it stores all information in an Access database, I can just
integrate it with my database with some work.

Thanks again!

gm

  At 11:00 AM, 11/1/2004 -0800, you wrote:
> From a few years back
>You will have to use TAPI, your modem need's to support caller ID Ughh,

>you are in Italy so you may have to check the format of caller id North

>America had half a dozen standards from the various Telco's in Mid 90's

>It was a mess.
>It is essentially about 55 bytes of data being  sent between the first 
>and second  ring of the phone It can be more data, there are a couple 
>of formats some included the callers name and blocking info in addition

>to the number.
>I can't remember if there is now an established ISO standard I did this

>back in 99.
>
>What I would do is try the trial version of Mountain Sys on your 
>telephone system and modem It is only $15 a client, but you could roll 
>your own code via Tapi after getting a format from your Telco but maybe

>they have standardized format  by now in Italy.
>
>  Companies that seem to handle callerid connections to Access.
>
>   Mountain Systems   http://www.mtnsys.com
>
>    CallAudit Software has sample Access 97 & 95 database with
>      trial software that connects thru DDE.
>
>   There are a lot of others. 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>   From Mountain System FAQ buried in there
>
>How to Test a MODEM for Caller ID Support Caveats.
>
>Necessary equipment
>
>   * Caller ID Service From your local telephone company
>   * A Voice MODEM or hardware device that supports Caller ID
>
>
>  Just about every MODEM disables Caller ID as the default.
>
>  For most MODEMs, the string AT#CID=1 or AT#CLS=8#CID=1 will enable
>   Caller ID.
>  If Caller ID is not working, you will only see the word RING for  
> each incoming ring.
>
>   The most common result, when Caller ID data works, is the following:
>
>     RING
>
>     DATE = xxxxx
>
>     TIME = xxxx
>
>     NMBR = xxxxxxxxx
>
>     NAME = xxxxxxxx
>
>     RING
>
>     RING &#133;
>
>   There are other formats as well. The key point is that other data
>   generally appears between the first and second rings.
>
>   Some telephone companies, especially in Canada, ship Caller ID data
in
>   different formats, Check the software handles this.
>
>  TAPI support for Caller ID was added after Windows 95 was released.
>  Microsoft has an updated version of UniModemV on their Web page that

> includes Caller ID support. The .INF file for your MODEM also needs to

> modified to take advantage of this support, and some modems do not  
> yet have this capability.
>
>  Windows NT 3.X does not include any support for TAPI. Although 
>Windows
>  NT 4.0 does.
>handyman at actcom.co.il wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I'm interested in somehow retrieving a CallerID number from my modem, 
>>and then displaying the caller's information(taken from my database) 
>>on screen.  Has anyone ever done anything like this, or can point me 
>>in the right direction
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Gershon Markowitz
>>mailto:Handyman at actcom.co.il
>
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From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Tue Nov  2 15:13:53 2004
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 13:13:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B33@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <20041102211353.70465.qmail@web20424.mail.yahoo.com>

Yes, I have created the menu as and a toolbar as Jim had also suggested and assigned their names in the property window for the form and cannot see either of them when I open it. Am I missing another step?
 
Thanks Charlotte.
 
Bobby, Right Click dosen't work in this case with the HideWindow code.
 
Thanks to all so far.

Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
Have you created a shortcut menu for the report?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Can't you right-click and choose Print?

Bobby

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Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:10 PM
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access;
AccessD solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,

I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just
shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)

Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As
Long) As Long Dim dwReturn As Long Const SW_HIDE = 0 Const SW_SHOWNORMAL
= 1 Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....

It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview
reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?

I know there is an answer out there somewhere!

Thanks in advance.



May God bless you beyond your imagination!
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Nov  2 15:42:41 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 07:42:41 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Time Synchronization
In-Reply-To: <58926.10.235.219.133.1099426838.webmail@10.235.219.133>
References: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C433@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>
Message-ID: <41888BF1.20826.E4E5F62@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 2 Nov 2004 at 15:20, mnptl at sonmedia.com wrote:

> 
> I was hoping that there was something similar to:
> 
> command.com /c net time \\<servername> /set /y
> 
> that could use for synchronizing the local machine's time to a "standard"
> clock available on the Internet, such as NIST.  I tried the command above
> with:
> 
> command.com /c net time \\129.6.15.28 /set /y
> 
> ... (which is one of the NIST time server IP addresses) but with no
> success.  It CAN be used for synchronizing with the back-end server, but I
> was hoping for something more thorough!
> 
> Let me know if you know of any other way.
> 

Generally I just use something like AboutTime from 
http://www.arachnoid.com/abouttime/index.html

I normally run it as  a single machine which has permanent internet access 
such as a mail server and use net time on all the workstations to keep them 
in synch.

But if you really need to embed it in Access, download the code at  
http://www.freevbcode.com/ShowCode.asp?ID=1594  It is a simple one form VB 
NTP client application.  You should just about be able to cut and paste the 
whole thing into an Access from.

-- 
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Nov  2 15:48:53 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 13:48:53 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B34@infoserver01.infostat.local>

It seems to me that the one time I did something like this, I had to
create a popup form that looked like a toolbar and open that when the
report opened so that I could print the report.  I don't recall whether
a floating toolbar was an option, but it you hide the window, then
logically, you also hide the menus.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Lonnie Johnson [mailto:prodevmg at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 1:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Yes, I have created the menu as and a toolbar as Jim had also suggested
and assigned their names in the property window for the form and cannot
see either of them when I open it. Am I missing another step?
 
Thanks Charlotte.
 
Bobby, Right Click dosen't work in this case with the HideWindow code.
 
Thanks to all so far.

Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
Have you created a shortcut menu for the report?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Can't you right-click and choose Print?

Bobby

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Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:10 PM
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access;
AccessD solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,

I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just
shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)

Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As
Long) As Long Dim dwReturn As Long Const SW_HIDE = 0 Const SW_SHOWNORMAL
= 1 Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....

It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview
reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?

I know there is an answer out there somewhere!

Thanks in advance.



May God bless you beyond your imagination!
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ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
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From JHewson at karta.com  Tue Nov  2 15:51:55 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 15:51:55 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068C6C@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>


Lonnie,
You can't preview the report with Access Window hidden.
To preview the report, you must unhide the Access Window and then hide it again when the report preview is completed.

Sequence of events to preview report...
- click button to preview report
- set form property visible to false
- unhide Access Window
- preview report - make sure you have a custom menu.
- close report
- hide Access Window
- set form property visible to True

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Yes, I have created the menu as and a toolbar as Jim had also suggested and assigned their names in the property window for the form and cannot see either of them when I open it. Am I missing another step?
 
Thanks Charlotte.
 
Bobby, Right Click dosen't work in this case with the HideWindow code.
 
Thanks to all so far.

Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
Have you created a shortcut menu for the report?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Can't you right-click and choose Print?

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie
Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:10 PM
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access;
AccessD solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,

I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just
shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)

Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As
Long) As Long Dim dwReturn As Long Const SW_HIDE = 0 Const SW_SHOWNORMAL
= 1 Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....

It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview
reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?

I know there is an answer out there somewhere!

Thanks in advance.



May God bless you beyond your imagination!
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ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Tue Nov  2 15:54:05 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 08:54:05 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
In-Reply-To: <20041102211353.70465.qmail@web20424.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200411022154.iA2LsDXH006088@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Lonnie
I use this code all the time too.
When you want to "SEE" (i.e. Preview) a report you have to make the Access
window (MDI) visible again
I do this in the onclick of the 'launching' command button for the report or
in the load
Events of the report. Then when the report is closed I have code in the
Unload to make the MDI hidden again

I like the look of the hidden MDI and it really suits my purposes, you just
have to put up with
The hide, unhide aerobics if you want to keep hiding the MDI for forms.

If I am mistaken about the MDI and previewing reports I am sure someone from
the list will let me know

See ya 

DD

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Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2004 8:14 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window

Yes, I have created the menu as and a toolbar as Jim had also suggested and
assigned their names in the property window for the form and cannot see
either of them when I open it. Am I missing another step?
 
Thanks Charlotte.
 
Bobby, Right Click dosen't work in this case with the HideWindow code.
 
Thanks to all so far.

Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
Have you created a shortcut menu for the report?

Charlotte Foust


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From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Can't you right-click and choose Print?

Bobby

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To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access;
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Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,

I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just
shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)

Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As
Long) As Long Dim dwReturn As Long Const SW_HIDE = 0 Const SW_SHOWNORMAL
= 1 Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....

It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview
reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?

I know there is an answer out there somewhere!

Thanks in advance.



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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Tue Nov  2 15:59:34 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 14:59:34 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Locked form w/editable subform?
Message-ID: <112490-220041122215934514@christopherhawkins.com>

Suppose you have frmMain and frmSub.

frmMain is (duh) the main form and frmSub is the SourceObject of
subform control sFrm on frmMain.

How can I set frmMain.AllowEdits to False and still have frmSub
behave as though it's .AllowEdit property is set to True?  Right now,
as soon as I change the setting for frmMain, it takes frmSub along
with it.




Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com




From stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz  Tue Nov  2 15:40:46 2004
From: stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz (Stephen Bond)
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 10:40:46 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] SQL Tables vs. Access Tables
Message-ID: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F298FDA@server.bondsoftware.co.nz>

Arthur, are these the sort of things covered in the Harkins/Reid book ...?

Stephen Bond


> 
> 3. Many of the things that we are comfortable in doing in Access are 
> quite the wrong approach with SQL Server, in terms of best practices. 
> This part cannot be communicated in a simple email message, but in 
> general it reduces to this: the old practice of binding forms 
> to tables 
> is all wrong. 
> 


From JHewson at karta.com  Tue Nov  2 16:09:03 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 16:09:03 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Locked form w/editable subform?
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068C6D@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

Could you set each control's Enabled and Locked property to No and Yes.
That essentially, makes the form uneditable but allows the subform to function normally.

Jim

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To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Locked form w/editable subform?


Suppose you have frmMain and frmSub.

frmMain is (duh) the main form and frmSub is the SourceObject of
subform control sFrm on frmMain.

How can I set frmMain.AllowEdits to False and still have frmSub
behave as though it's .AllowEdit property is set to True?  Right now,
as soon as I change the setting for frmMain, it takes frmSub along
with it.




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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Nov  2 16:09:35 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 08:09:35 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Locked form w/editable subform?
In-Reply-To: <112490-220041122215934514@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <4188923F.15285.E66FFC3@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 2 Nov 2004 at 14:59, Christopher Hawkins wrote:

> Suppose you have frmMain and frmSub.
> 
> frmMain is (duh) the main form and frmSub is the SourceObject of
> subform control sFrm on frmMain.
> 
> How can I set frmMain.AllowEdits to False and still have frmSub
> behave as though it's .AllowEdit property is set to True?  Right now,
> as soon as I change the setting for frmMain, it takes frmSub along
> with it.
> 

You could set all the fields on frmMain to Enabled and Locked
or set the AllowEdits explicitly in code on_load.



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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Nov  2 16:22:11 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 14:22:11 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Locked form w/editable subform?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B35@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Don't set allowEdits to false on frmMain, only on frmSub.  On frmMain,
have a routine that loops through the data controls and locks them
unless you already have them locked by default in design view.  The
subform control gets locked along with the rest by AllowEdits.

Charlotte Foust


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From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 2:00 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Locked form w/editable subform?


Suppose you have frmMain and frmSub.

frmMain is (duh) the main form and frmSub is the SourceObject of subform
control sFrm on frmMain.

How can I set frmMain.AllowEdits to False and still have frmSub behave
as though it's .AllowEdit property is set to True?  Right now, as soon
as I change the setting for frmMain, it takes frmSub along with it.




Respectfully,

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Nov  2 16:20:34 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 17:20:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Locked form w/editable subform?
In-Reply-To: <112490-220041122215934514@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <001001c4c12a$2f9d4640$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

It happens at load time of the subform.  You can manipulate the subform
properties after load, or you can leave the main form editable until after
load then set that to allow edits false.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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Hawkins
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 5:00 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Locked form w/editable subform?


Suppose you have frmMain and frmSub.

frmMain is (duh) the main form and frmSub is the SourceObject of subform
control sFrm on frmMain.

How can I set frmMain.AllowEdits to False and still have frmSub behave as
though it's .AllowEdit property is set to True?  Right now, as soon as I
change the setting for frmMain, it takes frmSub along with it.




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From chris at piasd.org  Tue Nov  2 16:46:30 2004
From: chris at piasd.org (Chris Kettenbach)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 14:46:30 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Insert Into query help
Message-ID: <2F7BA03C93D17D48B13C42228C8FDAF2785686@server.domain.local>

Using Access 2000, what is wrong with this syntax?

INSERT INTO Activity (
IDType, ID, ProjectID, ComponentID, SubComponentID, ProcessDate )
VALUES (
'Employee', SELECT EmployeeID FROM tbl1104Mess , 6, 28,341, #11/02/04#
)

The desired result is to place 1 record into Activity for each 1 record in
tbl1104Mess.
With all the literal values and the EmployeeID from tbl1104Mess.  I get an
error when I execute this statement.  Thanks for any feedback.

Regards,
Chris




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Nov  2 17:01:23 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 18:01:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] SQL Tables vs. Access Tables
In-Reply-To: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F298FDA@server.bondsoftware.co.nz>
Message-ID: <20041102230156.KLAP2398.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Stephen, I can't remember if you'll find an actual comparison in the books,
but this might help:

http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-6313_11-5034390.html?tag=search

Martin did a thorough job of discussing the SQL Server objects in the book,
so I'm sure what you need is there, I'm just not sure it's in the form of
comparison. 

Susan H. 

Arthur, are these the sort of things covered in the Harkins/Reid book ...?





From chris at piasd.org  Tue Nov  2 17:12:04 2004
From: chris at piasd.org (Chris Kettenbach)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 15:12:04 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Insert Into query help
Message-ID: <2F7BA03C93D17D48B13C42228C8FDAF280109F@server.domain.local>

I figured it out.  I went this direction.

INSERT INTO Activity(IDType, ID, ProjectID, ComponentID, SubComponentID, ProcessDate)
SELECT "Employee" as IDType, EmployeeID as ID, "6" as ProjectID, "28" as ComponentID,
           "341" as SubComponentID, "11/02/04" as ProcessDate FROM tbl1104Mess

Worked brilliantly! Thanks for reading

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Kettenbach
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 2:47 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Insert Into query help


Using Access 2000, what is wrong with this syntax?

INSERT INTO Activity (
IDType, ID, ProjectID, ComponentID, SubComponentID, ProcessDate )
VALUES (
'Employee', SELECT EmployeeID FROM tbl1104Mess , 6, 28,341, #11/02/04#
)

The desired result is to place 1 record into Activity for each 1 record in
tbl1104Mess.
With all the literal values and the EmployeeID from tbl1104Mess.  I get an
error when I execute this statement.  Thanks for any feedback.

Regards,
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From mnptl at sonmedia.com  Tue Nov  2 20:11:11 2004
From: mnptl at sonmedia.com (mnptl at sonmedia.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 21:11:11 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [AccessD] "ApplyFilter" hassles
Message-ID: <36008.10.235.219.133.1099447871.webmail@10.235.219.133>

Using Access 2002 ? but saving my application in Access 2000 format - I
have been busily creating a form with a bunch of sub forms.  Each sub form
is populated from a field in the main form (e.g. SELECT tbl_Names.* where
tbl_Names.Ref_Dept = frm_Main.cmb_Dept).  This all worked fine on the
machine where I?m busy developing it.

I copied the app across to the target machine ? which uses Access 2000 ?
and tried to run it.  Whenever it encounters one of these sub forms, I
receive an error 4288 - "You can't use the ApplyFilter action on this
window."

This would be a useful message 
 if it weren?t for the fact that I?m not
using the ApplyFilter action ? ANYWHERE!

Anyone seen this before?  Anything I need to be aware of that can fix this?






From handyman at actcom.co.il  Tue Nov  2 21:12:50 2004
From: handyman at actcom.co.il (handyman at actcom.co.il)
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 05:12:50 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Caller ID and Access
In-Reply-To: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B54C5@stekelbes.ithelps.l ocal>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041103050915.03b0b080@pop5.actcom.net.il>

I use a dsl line, but have a separate modem for the phone line.  I tried 
out the callaudit program from Mountain Systems, and it seems to have all 
the features I need.  I just have to work on integrating it with my 
appliaction.

I would have preferred to put this straight into my application, but why 
reinvent the wheel :)

Thanks

gm

At 10:12 PM, 11/2/2004 +0100, you wrote:
>If you have ISDN you gonna need a ISDN card with CAPI support.
>There is some VB code out there to use CAPI in access.
>I have such an Access DB that use a CAPI control for wich the VB code
>was available.
>
>Dont know the website anymore, it was several years ago.
>
>This only works with ISDN and a CAPI supported card like Eicon
>
>Erwin
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
>handyman at actcom.co.il
>Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 6:08 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Caller ID and Access
>
>Thanks!
>
>This program from Mountain Systems seems to do a lot of the stuff I
>want.
>Since it stores all information in an Access database, I can just
>integrate it with my database with some work.
>
>Thanks again!
>
>gm
>
>   At 11:00 AM, 11/1/2004 -0800, you wrote:
> > From a few years back
> >You will have to use TAPI, your modem need's to support caller ID Ughh,
>
> >you are in Italy so you may have to check the format of caller id North
>
> >America had half a dozen standards from the various Telco's in Mid 90's
>
> >It was a mess.
> >It is essentially about 55 bytes of data being  sent between the first
> >and second  ring of the phone It can be more data, there are a couple
> >of formats some included the callers name and blocking info in addition
>
> >to the number.
> >I can't remember if there is now an established ISO standard I did this
>
> >back in 99.
> >
> >What I would do is try the trial version of Mountain Sys on your
> >telephone system and modem It is only $15 a client, but you could roll
> >your own code via Tapi after getting a format from your Telco but maybe
>
> >they have standardized format  by now in Italy.
> >
> >  Companies that seem to handle callerid connections to Access.
> >
> >   Mountain Systems   http://www.mtnsys.com
> >
> >    CallAudit Software has sample Access 97 & 95 database with
> >      trial software that connects thru DDE.
> >
> >   There are a lot of others.
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> >   From Mountain System FAQ buried in there
> >
> >How to Test a MODEM for Caller ID Support Caveats.
> >
> >Necessary equipment
> >
> >   * Caller ID Service From your local telephone company
> >   * A Voice MODEM or hardware device that supports Caller ID
> >
> >
> >  Just about every MODEM disables Caller ID as the default.
> >
> >  For most MODEMs, the string AT#CID=1 or AT#CLS=8#CID=1 will enable
> >   Caller ID.
> >  If Caller ID is not working, you will only see the word RING for
> > each incoming ring.
> >
> >   The most common result, when Caller ID data works, is the following:
> >
> >     RING
> >
> >     DATE = xxxxx
> >
> >     TIME = xxxx
> >
> >     NMBR = xxxxxxxxx
> >
> >     NAME = xxxxxxxx
> >
> >     RING
> >
> >     RING &#133;
> >
> >   There are other formats as well. The key point is that other data
> >   generally appears between the first and second rings.
> >
> >   Some telephone companies, especially in Canada, ship Caller ID data
>in
> >   different formats, Check the software handles this.
> >
> >  TAPI support for Caller ID was added after Windows 95 was released.
> >  Microsoft has an updated version of UniModemV on their Web page that
>
> > includes Caller ID support. The .INF file for your MODEM also needs to
>
> > modified to take advantage of this support, and some modems do not
> > yet have this capability.
> >
> >  Windows NT 3.X does not include any support for TAPI. Although
> >Windows
> >  NT 4.0 does.
> >handyman at actcom.co.il wrote:
> >
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>I'm interested in somehow retrieving a CallerID number from my modem,
> >>and then displaying the caller's information(taken from my database)
> >>on screen.  Has anyone ever done anything like this, or can point me
> >>in the right direction
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>
> >>Gershon Markowitz
> >>mailto:Handyman at actcom.co.il
> >
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> >Victoria, B.C.
> >Canada
> >
> >
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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Wed Nov  3 01:39:20 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 23:39:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] CheckDate?
In-Reply-To: <17619718283.20041102141952@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20041103073920.69473.qmail@web61106.mail.yahoo.com>

Doh! I tested the function with 29 februari 2004......however 2004 is a schrikkeljaar :-) what's the English word for it??
Thanx!

Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
Hi Sander

> However, I added some extra checks to rule out 'impossible dates'
> like 29,30 or 31 februari, 31 november, etc.

Well, that's the point - IsDate() checks that as well!
Both IsDate("31-11-xxxx") and IsDate("11-31-xxxx") will fail.

/gustav

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From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Wed Nov  3 02:21:56 2004
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 08:21:56 -0000 
Subject: [AccessD] CheckDate?
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C434@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>

I think the English (UK version) is leap year!

366 days rather than 365 right?

Regards
Chris Foote

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> From: S D [mailto:accessd667 at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 7:39 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] CheckDate?
> 
> 
> Doh! I tested the function with 29 februari 2004......however 
> 2004 is a schrikkeljaar :-) what's the English word for it??
> Thanx!
> 
> Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi Sander
> 
> > However, I added some extra checks to rule out 'impossible dates'
> > like 29,30 or 31 februari, 31 november, etc.
> 
> Well, that's the point - IsDate() checks that as well!
> Both IsDate("31-11-xxxx") and IsDate("11-31-xxxx") will fail.
> 
> /gustav
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov  3 03:34:27 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:34:27 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Time Synchronization
In-Reply-To: <35609.10.235.219.133.1099417163.webmail@10.235.219.133>
References: <35609.10.235.219.133.1099417163.webmail@10.235.219.133>
Message-ID: <766737608.20041103103427@cactus.dk>

Hi Mark

You can use an ActiveX control for this:

http://www.universalthread.com/wconnect/wc.dll?FournierTransformation~

"Synchronize your client machine or just the software itself by
retrieving the highly accurate time from time servers [..] This is
accurate to the millisecond range so a large use is for Timestamping
of information independent of the local CPU clock."

Or use the winsock ocx. Here's some VB code you probably can adapt:

http://www.freevbcode.com/ShowCode.asp?ID=1594

/gustav


> Date: 2004-11-02 18:39

> Does anyone know of any VBA code to be placed within an Access application
> that can easily poll an Internet-based time server, and return that time
> to a variable?  Searching through the archives hasn't come up with
> naything ... yet ...

> Thanks,

> Mark Naud?



From Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk  Wed Nov  3 05:11:32 2004
From: Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk (Paul Rodgers)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 11:11:32 -0000 
Subject: [AccessD] SQL Tables vs. Access Tables
Message-ID: <EAF3070ACB1AD81182280002A51EF731192314@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>

Thanks, Arthur, that's helped me too. 

Cheers

paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com]
Sent: 02 November 2004 18:41
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL Tables vs. Access Tables


Joe Hecht wrote:

>I may be picking up an assignment that sounds like an Access front end into
>SQL tables. I am waiting to hear from the project manager for the more
>details you all will ask me for.
>
>Is there any major difference between access tables and SQL tables I should
>be aware of?
>
>I think I do good table design, normalization and naming conventions.
>
>thanks
>
>Joe Hecht
>jmhla at earthlink.net
>28g
>
>
>  
>
I would suggest the following:

1. Design it in Access, where you're comfortable. Then use the upsizing 
wizard to move it to SS when you're ready. Make sure that every ...

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From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Wed Nov  3 05:15:56 2004
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 11:15:56 -0000 
Subject: [AccessD] Time Synchronization
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C436@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>

Fair enough Mark!

Looks like Gustav has the answer though!

Good luck, please let me/us know how you get on.

Best regards!
Chris Foote

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mnptl at sonmedia.com [mailto:mnptl at sonmedia.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 8:21 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Time Synchronization
> 
> 
> Hi Chris - yes, TECHNICALLY that would be a lot easier!  PROCEDURALLY,
> that could take months!  I'm currently assisting a 
> pharmaceutical company
> with ensuring that they meet all FDA regulations, especially those
> concerning electronic records.
> 
> The concept of handling their time synchronization in a 
> centralized way is
> somewhat new, and will have to go up the chain of command to 
> head office,
> mulled over, a policy put in place, local IT procedures 
> created, and then
> the technical controls instituted...  a very long process.
> 
> I was hoping that there was something similar to:
> 
> command.com /c net time \\<servername> /set /y
> 
> that could use for synchronizing the local machine's time to 
> a "standard"
> clock available on the Internet, such as NIST.  I tried the 
> command above
> with:
> 
> command.com /c net time \\129.6.15.28 /set /y
> 
> ... (which is one of the NIST time server IP addresses) but with no
> success.  It CAN be used for synchronizing with the back-end 
> server, but I
> was hoping for something more thorough!
> 
> Let me know if you know of any other way.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Foote, Chris" <Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com>
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Time Synchronization
> 
> Hi Mark!
> 
> Would it not be easier to synch the clock on the host machine 
> with a NTP
> server and then get that via Date() Time() etc?
> 
> Or does the time function need to be totally encapsulated in 
> the Access app?
> 
> Regards!
> Chris Foote


From JHewson at karta.com  Wed Nov  3 07:18:24 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 07:18:24 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] "ApplyFilter" hassles
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068C6E@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>


Not sure if this will help...
When ever I modify an A2K file (except data entry) using AXP, it never seems to work correctly.
When developing in A2K, in my experience, you must use A2K.
My suggestion is to open the file in A2K, make a few minor changes, then save it to see if that corrects the problem.  If not, import all objects into a new container.
 
Jim

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Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 8:11 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] "ApplyFilter" hassles


Using Access 2002 - but saving my application in Access 2000 format - I
have been busily creating a form with a bunch of sub forms.  Each sub form
is populated from a field in the main form (e.g. SELECT tbl_Names.* where
tbl_Names.Ref_Dept = frm_Main.cmb_Dept).  This all worked fine on the
machine where I'm busy developing it.

I copied the app across to the target machine - which uses Access 2000 -
and tried to run it.  Whenever it encounters one of these sub forms, I
receive an error 4288 - "You can't use the ApplyFilter action on this
window."

This would be a useful message ... if it weren't for the fact that I'm not
using the ApplyFilter action - ANYWHERE!

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From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Wed Nov  3 08:36:44 2004
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 06:36:44 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
In-Reply-To: <200411022154.iA2LsDXH006088@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <20041103143644.16433.qmail@web20424.mail.yahoo.com>

Thanks DD, Charlotte and Jim.
 
I may consider using the process of unhiding the Access MDI when viewing a report. The only thing I didn't like when I tested it is that they have the (X) to close the application. 
The user may mistake this X as the one to close the report. In the form that they use they have to close the app with a button. Anyway, thanks again everyone. You've all earned the rank of Guru in my books.

Darren DICK <d.dick at uws.edu.au> wrote:
Hi Lonnie
I use this code all the time too.
When you want to "SEE" (i.e. Preview) a report you have to make the Access
window (MDI) visible again
I do this in the onclick of the 'launching' command button for the report or
in the load
Events of the report. Then when the report is closed I have code in the
Unload to make the MDI hidden again

I like the look of the hidden MDI and it really suits my purposes, you just
have to put up with
The hide, unhide aerobics if you want to keep hiding the MDI for forms.

If I am mistaken about the MDI and previewing reports I am sure someone from
the list will let me know

See ya 

DD

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2004 8:14 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window

Yes, I have created the menu as and a toolbar as Jim had also suggested and
assigned their names in the property window for the form and cannot see
either of them when I open it. Am I missing another step?

Thanks Charlotte.

Bobby, Right Click dosen't work in this case with the HideWindow code.

Thanks to all so far.

Charlotte Foust wrote:
Have you created a shortcut menu for the report?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Can't you right-click and choose Print?

Bobby

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Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:10 PM
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access;
AccessD solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,

I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just
shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)

Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As
Long) As Long Dim dwReturn As Long Const SW_HIDE = 0 Const SW_SHOWNORMAL
= 1 Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....

It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview
reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?

I know there is an answer out there somewhere!

Thanks in advance.



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From JColby at dispec.com  Wed Nov  3 09:22:48 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:22:48 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] What is App.hInstance in Access
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF94D@DISABILITYINS01>

In looking over the time sync stuff I found a class and module to replace
the winsock OCX control.  It has a call:

    p_lngWindowHandle = CreateWindowEx(0&, "STATIC", "SOCKET_WINDOW", 0&,
0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, App.hInstance, ByVal 0&)

which fails on App.hInstance.  I'm assuming that this is a handle to the
application window.  Is there an equivelent in VBA?  I think I solved that
one by:

    p_lngWindowHandle = CreateWindowEx(0&, "STATIC", "SOCKET_WINDOW", 0&,
0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, Application.hWndAccessApp, ByVal 0&)

However I am now getting a compile error on:

    m_lngResolveMessage = RegisterWindowMessage(App.EXEName &
".ResolveMessage")

There is no apparent equivelent property in the Application object.  Does
anyone know what I would use here?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 4:34 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Time Synchronization


Hi Mark

You can use an ActiveX control for this:

http://www.universalthread.com/wconnect/wc.dll?FournierTransformation~

"Synchronize your client machine or just the software itself by
retrieving the highly accurate time from time servers [..] This is
accurate to the millisecond range so a large use is for Timestamping
of information independent of the local CPU clock."

Or use the winsock ocx. Here's some VB code you probably can adapt:

http://www.freevbcode.com/ShowCode.asp?ID=1594

/gustav


> Date: 2004-11-02 18:39

> Does anyone know of any VBA code to be placed within an Access application
> that can easily poll an Internet-based time server, and return that time
> to a variable?  Searching through the archives hasn't come up with
> naything ... yet ...

> Thanks,

> Mark Naud?

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From Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com  Wed Nov  3 09:21:57 2004
From: Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com (Lavsa, Rich)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:21:57 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
Message-ID: <2A261FF9D5EBCA46940C11688CE872EE03AABD@goexchange2.pghcorning.com>

Just a thought, I would think you could put code in the unload or close
event of the report to prompt the user if they want to print the report.  If
they select yes, then the report prints to their default printer.  If that
is not feasible to have them only print to their default printer, you can
programmatically simulate the printer setup that is available in the
file-->Print option.  To do this I might use the form and code from
Microsoft's demo which is on the following link to give you some ideas or a
even a fast head start.. 

I just happened to be looking for some ideas on "change printer from VBA"
and came across this page on Microsoft's site which might give you some
options on the close event of the report.. 
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnacc2k2/ht
ml/ODC_acc10_Printers.asp

Keep us posted if it works out for you or if it even sounds like it could
work,
Rich

-----Original Message-----
From: Lonnie Johnson [mailto:prodevmg at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 9:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Thanks DD, Charlotte and Jim.
 
I may consider using the process of unhiding the Access MDI when viewing a
report. The only thing I didn't like when I tested it is that they have the
(X) to close the application. 
The user may mistake this X as the one to close the report. In the form that
they use they have to close the app with a button. Anyway, thanks again
everyone. You've all earned the rank of Guru in my books.

Darren DICK <d.dick at uws.edu.au> wrote:
Hi Lonnie
I use this code all the time too.
When you want to "SEE" (i.e. Preview) a report you have to make the Access
window (MDI) visible again I do this in the onclick of the 'launching'
command button for the report or in the load Events of the report. Then when
the report is closed I have code in the Unload to make the MDI hidden again

I like the look of the hidden MDI and it really suits my purposes, you just
have to put up with The hide, unhide aerobics if you want to keep hiding the
MDI for forms.

If I am mistaken about the MDI and previewing reports I am sure someone from
the list will let me know

See ya 

DD

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2004 8:14 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window

Yes, I have created the menu as and a toolbar as Jim had also suggested and
assigned their names in the property window for the form and cannot see
either of them when I open it. Am I missing another step?

Thanks Charlotte.

Bobby, Right Click dosen't work in this case with the HideWindow code.

Thanks to all so far.

Charlotte Foust wrote:
Have you created a shortcut menu for the report?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Can't you right-click and choose Print?

Bobby

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:10 PM
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access; AccessD
solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,

I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just shows
a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)

Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As
Long) As Long Dim dwReturn As Long Const SW_HIDE = 0 Const SW_SHOWNORMAL = 1
Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....

It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview reports.
However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?

I know there is an answer out there somewhere!

Thanks in advance.



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From CMackin at quiznos.com  Wed Nov  3 09:25:16 2004
From: CMackin at quiznos.com (Mackin, Christopher)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 08:25:16 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
Message-ID: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27F0C2@snowmass.quiznos.net>

You can always have a hidden form that processes the click on the "X" to close the application as a command to close the report.  The methodology to prevent the ap from closing has been discussed extensively in the archives, just add some code to that to close the currently visible report and you should be OK.

-Chris Mackin

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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 7:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Thanks DD, Charlotte and Jim.
 
I may consider using the process of unhiding the Access MDI when viewing a report. The only thing I didn't like when I tested it is that they have the (X) to close the application. 
The user may mistake this X as the one to close the report. In the form that they use they have to close the app with a button. Anyway, thanks again everyone. You've all earned the rank of Guru in my books.

Darren DICK <d.dick at uws.edu.au> wrote:
Hi Lonnie
I use this code all the time too.
When you want to "SEE" (i.e. Preview) a report you have to make the Access
window (MDI) visible again
I do this in the onclick of the 'launching' command button for the report or
in the load
Events of the report. Then when the report is closed I have code in the
Unload to make the MDI hidden again

I like the look of the hidden MDI and it really suits my purposes, you just
have to put up with
The hide, unhide aerobics if you want to keep hiding the MDI for forms.

If I am mistaken about the MDI and previewing reports I am sure someone from
the list will let me know

See ya 

DD

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2004 8:14 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window

Yes, I have created the menu as and a toolbar as Jim had also suggested and
assigned their names in the property window for the form and cannot see
either of them when I open it. Am I missing another step?

Thanks Charlotte.

Bobby, Right Click dosen't work in this case with the HideWindow code.

Thanks to all so far.

Charlotte Foust wrote:
Have you created a shortcut menu for the report?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Can't you right-click and choose Print?

Bobby

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Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:10 PM
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access;
AccessD solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,

I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just
shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)

Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As
Long) As Long Dim dwReturn As Long Const SW_HIDE = 0 Const SW_SHOWNORMAL
= 1 Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....

It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview
reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?

I know there is an answer out there somewhere!

Thanks in advance.



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From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Wed Nov  3 10:29:55 2004
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 08:29:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
In-Reply-To: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27F0C2@snowmass.quiznos.net>
Message-ID: <20041103162955.94164.qmail@web20428.mail.yahoo.com>

Christopher, 
 
I am a completely happily married heterosexual man but want to say I LOVE YOU. I am going to try that. I'll look in the archives for that code.

"Mackin, Christopher" <CMackin at quiznos.com> wrote:
You can always have a hidden form that processes the click on the "X" to close the application as a command to close the report. The methodology to prevent the ap from closing has been discussed extensively in the archives, just add some code to that to close the currently visible report and you should be OK.

-Chris Mackin

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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Thanks DD, Charlotte and Jim.

I may consider using the process of unhiding the Access MDI when viewing a report. The only thing I didn't like when I tested it is that they have the (X) to close the application. 
The user may mistake this X as the one to close the report. In the form that they use they have to close the app with a button. Anyway, thanks again everyone. You've all earned the rank of Guru in my books.

Darren DICK wrote:
Hi Lonnie
I use this code all the time too.
When you want to "SEE" (i.e. Preview) a report you have to make the Access
window (MDI) visible again
I do this in the onclick of the 'launching' command button for the report or
in the load
Events of the report. Then when the report is closed I have code in the
Unload to make the MDI hidden again

I like the look of the hidden MDI and it really suits my purposes, you just
have to put up with
The hide, unhide aerobics if you want to keep hiding the MDI for forms.

If I am mistaken about the MDI and previewing reports I am sure someone from
the list will let me know

See ya 

DD

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2004 8:14 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window

Yes, I have created the menu as and a toolbar as Jim had also suggested and
assigned their names in the property window for the form and cannot see
either of them when I open it. Am I missing another step?

Thanks Charlotte.

Bobby, Right Click dosen't work in this case with the HideWindow code.

Thanks to all so far.

Charlotte Foust wrote:
Have you created a shortcut menu for the report?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Can't you right-click and choose Print?

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie
Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:10 PM
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access;
AccessD solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,

I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just
shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)

Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As
Long) As Long Dim dwReturn As Long Const SW_HIDE = 0 Const SW_SHOWNORMAL
= 1 Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....

It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview
reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?

I know there is an answer out there somewhere!

Thanks in advance.



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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Nov  3 10:30:06 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 08:30:06 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] "ApplyFilter" hassles
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B38@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I think that depends on what you do with it.  I normally work in 2002
and have never had a problem running the app in 2000 unless I used
XP-specific objects, etc., in my code.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Hewson [mailto:JHewson at karta.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 5:18 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] "ApplyFilter" hassles



Not sure if this will help...
When ever I modify an A2K file (except data entry) using AXP, it never
seems to work correctly. When developing in A2K, in my experience, you
must use A2K. My suggestion is to open the file in A2K, make a few minor
changes, then save it to see if that corrects the problem.  If not,
import all objects into a new container.
 
Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
mnptl at sonmedia.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 8:11 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] "ApplyFilter" hassles


Using Access 2002 - but saving my application in Access 2000 format - I
have been busily creating a form with a bunch of sub forms.  Each sub
form is populated from a field in the main form (e.g. SELECT tbl_Names.*
where tbl_Names.Ref_Dept = frm_Main.cmb_Dept).  This all worked fine on
the machine where I'm busy developing it.

I copied the app across to the target machine - which uses Access 2000 -
and tried to run it.  Whenever it encounters one of these sub forms, I
receive an error 4288 - "You can't use the ApplyFilter action on this
window."

This would be a useful message ... if it weren't for the fact that I'm
not using the ApplyFilter action - ANYWHERE!

Anyone seen this before?  Anything I need to be aware of that can fix
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Nov  3 10:33:19 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 08:33:19 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] "ApplyFilter" hassles
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B39@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I don't understand why you're filtering the subforms that way instead of
using the master and child links.  That would eliminate the "filter"
aspect entirely.  

Charlotte Foust


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From: mnptl at sonmedia.com [mailto:mnptl at sonmedia.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 6:11 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] "ApplyFilter" hassles


Using Access 2002 - but saving my application in Access 2000 format - I
have been busily creating a form with a bunch of sub forms.  Each sub
form is populated from a field in the main form (e.g. SELECT tbl_Names.*
where tbl_Names.Ref_Dept = frm_Main.cmb_Dept).  This all worked fine on
the machine where I'm busy developing it.

I copied the app across to the target machine - which uses Access 2000 -
and tried to run it.  Whenever it encounters one of these sub forms, I
receive an error 4288 - "You can't use the ApplyFilter action on this
window."

This would be a useful message ... if it weren't for the fact that I'm
not using the ApplyFilter action - ANYWHERE!

Anyone seen this before?  Anything I need to be aware of that can fix
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From JColby at dispec.com  Wed Nov  3 10:41:55 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 11:41:55 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF94F@DISABILITYINS01>

Hmm... do we need a Lonely Hearts list?  ;-)

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Lonnie Johnson [mailto:prodevmg at yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 11:30 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Christopher, 
 
I am a completely happily married heterosexual man but want to say I LOVE
YOU. I am going to try that. I'll look in the archives for that code.

"Mackin, Christopher" <CMackin at quiznos.com> wrote:
You can always have a hidden form that processes the click on the "X" to
close the application as a command to close the report. The methodology to
prevent the ap from closing has been discussed extensively in the archives,
just add some code to that to close the currently visible report and you
should be OK.

-Chris Mackin

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 7:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Thanks DD, Charlotte and Jim.

I may consider using the process of unhiding the Access MDI when viewing a
report. The only thing I didn't like when I tested it is that they have the
(X) to close the application. 
The user may mistake this X as the one to close the report. In the form that
they use they have to close the app with a button. Anyway, thanks again
everyone. You've all earned the rank of Guru in my books.

Darren DICK wrote:
Hi Lonnie
I use this code all the time too.
When you want to "SEE" (i.e. Preview) a report you have to make the Access
window (MDI) visible again
I do this in the onclick of the 'launching' command button for the report or
in the load
Events of the report. Then when the report is closed I have code in the
Unload to make the MDI hidden again

I like the look of the hidden MDI and it really suits my purposes, you just
have to put up with
The hide, unhide aerobics if you want to keep hiding the MDI for forms.

If I am mistaken about the MDI and previewing reports I am sure someone from
the list will let me know

See ya 

DD

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2004 8:14 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window

Yes, I have created the menu as and a toolbar as Jim had also suggested and
assigned their names in the property window for the form and cannot see
either of them when I open it. Am I missing another step?

Thanks Charlotte.

Bobby, Right Click dosen't work in this case with the HideWindow code.

Thanks to all so far.

Charlotte Foust wrote:
Have you created a shortcut menu for the report?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Can't you right-click and choose Print?

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie
Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:10 PM
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access;
AccessD solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,

I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just
shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)

Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As
Long) As Long Dim dwReturn As Long Const SW_HIDE = 0 Const SW_SHOWNORMAL
= 1 Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....

It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview
reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?

I know there is an answer out there somewhere!

Thanks in advance.



May God bless you beyond your imagination!
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ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Wed Nov  3 11:05:38 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 11:05:38 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] What is App.hInstance in Access
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB0865318D88@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

No, that parameter refers to the parent instance handle, not the window
handle.

However, according to MSDN, this value is ignored in Windows NT/2000/XP,
so you could just put 0& in its place.

If you wish to cater to the elite Windows 95/98/ME crowd, you need to
use the following code to get the Instance handle from the Application
window:

Private Const GWL_HINSTANCE = (-6)

Private Declare Function GetWindowLong Lib "user32" _
  Alias "GetWindowLongA" (ByVal hwnd As Long, ByVal nIndex As Long) As
Long

GetWindowLong(hWndAccessApp, GWL_HINSTANCE)


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 9:23 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] What is App.hInstance in Access

In looking over the time sync stuff I found a class and module to
replace the winsock OCX control.  It has a call:

    p_lngWindowHandle = CreateWindowEx(0&, "STATIC", "SOCKET_WINDOW",
0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, App.hInstance, ByVal 0&)

which fails on App.hInstance.  I'm assuming that this is a handle to the
application window.  Is there an equivelent in VBA?  I think I solved
that one by:

    p_lngWindowHandle = CreateWindowEx(0&, "STATIC", "SOCKET_WINDOW",
0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, Application.hWndAccessApp, ByVal 0&)

However I am now getting a compile error on:

    m_lngResolveMessage = RegisterWindowMessage(App.EXEName &
".ResolveMessage")

There is no apparent equivelent property in the Application object.
Does anyone know what I would use here?

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Nov  3 11:13:39 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 09:13:39 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B3B@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Isn't that what OT is for? <innocent>

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:42 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hmm... do we need a Lonely Hearts list?  ;-)

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Lonnie Johnson [mailto:prodevmg at yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 11:30 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Christopher, 
 
I am a completely happily married heterosexual man but want to say I
LOVE YOU. I am going to try that. I'll look in the archives for that
code.

"Mackin, Christopher" <CMackin at quiznos.com> wrote:
You can always have a hidden form that processes the click on the "X" to
close the application as a command to close the report. The methodology
to prevent the ap from closing has been discussed extensively in the
archives, just add some code to that to close the currently visible
report and you should be OK.

-Chris Mackin

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 7:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Thanks DD, Charlotte and Jim.

I may consider using the process of unhiding the Access MDI when viewing
a report. The only thing I didn't like when I tested it is that they
have the
(X) to close the application. 
The user may mistake this X as the one to close the report. In the form
that they use they have to close the app with a button. Anyway, thanks
again everyone. You've all earned the rank of Guru in my books.

Darren DICK wrote:
Hi Lonnie
I use this code all the time too.
When you want to "SEE" (i.e. Preview) a report you have to make the
Access window (MDI) visible again I do this in the onclick of the
'launching' command button for the report or in the load Events of the
report. Then when the report is closed I have code in the Unload to make
the MDI hidden again

I like the look of the hidden MDI and it really suits my purposes, you
just have to put up with The hide, unhide aerobics if you want to keep
hiding the MDI for forms.

If I am mistaken about the MDI and previewing reports I am sure someone
from the list will let me know

See ya 

DD

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie
Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2004 8:14 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window

Yes, I have created the menu as and a toolbar as Jim had also suggested
and assigned their names in the property window for the form and cannot
see either of them when I open it. Am I missing another step?

Thanks Charlotte.

Bobby, Right Click dosen't work in this case with the HideWindow code.

Thanks to all so far.

Charlotte Foust wrote:
Have you created a shortcut menu for the report?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Can't you right-click and choose Print?

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie
Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:10 PM
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access;
AccessD solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,

I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just
shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)

Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As
Long) As Long Dim dwReturn As Long Const SW_HIDE = 0 Const SW_SHOWNORMAL
= 1 Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....

It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview
reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?

I know there is an answer out there somewhere!

Thanks in advance.



May God bless you beyond your imagination!
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Nov  3 11:15:09 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:15:09 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] What is App.hInstance in Access
References: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF94D@DISABILITYINS01>
Message-ID: <4189121D.1050202@shaw.ca>

If you want the Access Application window handle

'You can use the Windows API GetWindow function to retrieve the handle
'of your application's window with the statement:
'    CurrWnd = GetWindow(Form1.hwnd, GW_HWNDFIRST)
' To use in Access replace with the following
'     parent_hwnd = FindWindow(vbNullString, "Microsoft Access")
'The first argument of the GetWindow function is the handle of the window
'that is at the top of the z-order. In this case, this is the handle of 
'Form1

 Here is some code I use to get  Task List handles
Maybe you can get something out of it.

'_______________________________________________________


Private Const VK_LWIN = &H5B 'Left window button
Private Const VK_RETURN = &HD  'ENTER key
Private Const VK_SHIFT = &H10 'SHIFT key
Private Const VK_CONTROL = &H11 'CTRL key
Private Const VK_MENU = &H12 'ALT key
Private Const VK_PAUSE = &H13 'PAUSE key
Private Const VK_CAPITAL = &H14 'CAPS LOCK key
Private Const VK_SNAPSHOT = &H2C  'Print Screen
Private Const VK_APPS = &H5D
         'Applications key on a Microsoft Natural Keyboard
'from http://support.microsoft.com/view/dev.asp?kb=242971

Const GW_HWNDFIRST = 0
Const GW_HWNDNEXT = 2
Private Const KEYEVENTF_KEYUP = &H2

Private Declare Sub keybd_event Lib "user32" (ByVal bVk As Byte, _
    ByVal bScan As Byte, ByVal dwflags As Long, ByVal dwExtraInfo As Long)
Private Declare Function GetWindow Lib "user32" _
   (ByVal hwnd As Long, ByVal wCmd As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function GetParent Lib "user32" _
   (ByVal hwnd As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function GetWindowTextLength Lib _
   "user32" Alias "GetWindowTextLengthA" (ByVal hwnd As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function GetWindowText Lib "user32" _
   Alias "GetWindowTextA" (ByVal hwnd As Long, ByVal _
   lpString As String, ByVal cch As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function FindWindow Lib "user32" Alias "FindWindowA" _
   (ByVal lpClassName As String, ByVal lpWindowName As String) As Long
Private Declare Function SetFocusAPI Lib "user32" Alias "SetFocus" _
   (ByVal hwnd As Long) As Long




'Determining Which Tasks Are Running

'With the Microsoft Windows operating system,
'you can run any number of applications simultaneously.
'Occasionally, you may need to determine which tasks are currently being
'run.
'This can be accomplished by using several Windows application programming
'interface
'(API) functions.
'To find the names of all currently executing tasks,
'you must first determine the handle of the window that is currently
'at the top of the z-order. This, of course, would be the window of your
'own Microsoft Visual Basic application.
'You can use the Windows API GetWindow function to retrieve the handle
'of your application's window with the statement:

'    CurrWnd = GetWindow(Form1.hwnd, GW_HWNDFIRST)
' To use in Access replace with the following
'     parent_hwnd = FindWindow(vbNullString, "Microsoft Access")
'The first argument of the GetWindow function is the handle of the window
'that is at the top of the z-order. In this case, this is the handle of
'Form1.

'The second argument of the GetWindow function specifies the window
'you want to retrieve the handle for.
'This argument can have one of the following values:

'  GW_CHILD Retrieve the handle for the child window.
'  GW_HWNDFIRST Retrieve the handle for the window at the top of the z-
'order.
'  GW_HWNDLAST Retrieve the handle for the window at the bottom of the z-
'order.
'  GW_HWNDNEXT Retrieve the handle of the window below the specified window
'in the z-order.
'  GW_HWNDPREV Retrieve the handle of the window above the specified window
'in the z-order.
'  GW_OWNER Retrieve the handle of the window that owns the specified
'window, if any.

'After you have retrieved the application's window handle,
'you can use the Windows API GetParent function to retrieve this window's
'child window handle. Next, you call the Windows API GetWindowText and
'GetWindowTextLength functions to retrieve the text in the window's title
'bar
'and the length of this text, respectively. You can then use the text string
'in your own application. For example, you can save the title bar text
'to a List Box control.

'All of the above steps are repeated until you have processed all running
'tasks.
'You know that you have gone through each task when the current window is
'that'of your own application.


Function LoadTaskList() As String
Dim CurrWnd As Long
Dim Length As Long
Dim TaskName As String
Dim Parent As Long
Dim parent_hwnd As Long
Dim strMyTaskList As String
  strMyTaskList = " Task List " & vbCrLf

' This line below works from VB form
'CurrWnd = GetWindow(Form1.hwnd, GW_HWNDFIRST)
' get Parent Window Handle
     parent_hwnd = FindWindow(vbNullString, "Microsoft Access")
    If parent_hwnd = 0 Then
     MsgBox "Access Not Found"
      Exit Function
     End If
      'SetFocusAPI parent_hwnd
       CurrWnd = parent_hwnd
While CurrWnd <> 0
  Parent = GetParent(CurrWnd)
  Length = GetWindowTextLength(CurrWnd)
  TaskName = Space$(Length + 1)
  Length = GetWindowText(CurrWnd, TaskName, Length + 1)
  TaskName = Left$(TaskName, Len(TaskName) - 1)

  If Length > 0 Then
  'If TaskName <> Me.Caption Then
  'If TaskName <> "Microsoft Access" Then
     'List1.AddItem TaskName
     strMyTaskList = strMyTaskList & TaskName & vbCrLf
     Debug.Print TaskName
   'End If
  End If
  CurrWnd = GetWindow(CurrWnd, GW_HWNDNEXT)

    DoEvents
Wend
LoadTaskList = strMyTaskList
End Function



Colby, John wrote:

>In looking over the time sync stuff I found a class and module to replace
>the winsock OCX control.  It has a call:
>
>    p_lngWindowHandle = CreateWindowEx(0&, "STATIC", "SOCKET_WINDOW", 0&,
>0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, App.hInstance, ByVal 0&)
>
>which fails on App.hInstance.  I'm assuming that this is a handle to the
>application window.  Is there an equivelent in VBA?  I think I solved that
>one by:
>
>    p_lngWindowHandle = CreateWindowEx(0&, "STATIC", "SOCKET_WINDOW", 0&,
>0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, Application.hWndAccessApp, ByVal 0&)
>
>However I am now getting a compile error on:
>
>    m_lngResolveMessage = RegisterWindowMessage(App.EXEName &
>".ResolveMessage")
>
>There is no apparent equivelent property in the Application object.  Does
>anyone know what I would use here?
>
>John W. Colby
>The DIS Database Guy
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
>Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 4:34 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Time Synchronization
>
>
>Hi Mark
>
>You can use an ActiveX control for this:
>
>http://www.universalthread.com/wconnect/wc.dll?FournierTransformation~
>
>"Synchronize your client machine or just the software itself by
>retrieving the highly accurate time from time servers [..] This is
>accurate to the millisecond range so a large use is for Timestamping
>of information independent of the local CPU clock."
>
>Or use the winsock ocx. Here's some VB code you probably can adapt:
>
>http://www.freevbcode.com/ShowCode.asp?ID=1594
>
>/gustav
>
>
>  
>
>>Date: 2004-11-02 18:39
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>Does anyone know of any VBA code to be placed within an Access application
>>that can easily poll an Internet-based time server, and return that time
>>to a variable?  Searching through the archives hasn't come up with
>>naything ... yet ...
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>Thanks,
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>Mark Naud?
>>    
>>
>
>  
>

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From JColby at dispec.com  Wed Nov  3 11:26:52 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 12:26:52 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF950@DISABILITYINS01>

LOL.  Maybe.  I stay away from that place!  ;-)

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 12:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Isn't that what OT is for? <innocent>

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:42 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hmm... do we need a Lonely Hearts list?  ;-)

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


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From: Lonnie Johnson [mailto:prodevmg at yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 11:30 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Christopher, 
 
I am a completely happily married heterosexual man but want to say I
LOVE YOU. I am going to try that. I'll look in the archives for that
code.

"Mackin, Christopher" <CMackin at quiznos.com> wrote:
You can always have a hidden form that processes the click on the "X" to
close the application as a command to close the report. The methodology
to prevent the ap from closing has been discussed extensively in the
archives, just add some code to that to close the currently visible
report and you should be OK.

-Chris Mackin

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 7:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Thanks DD, Charlotte and Jim.

I may consider using the process of unhiding the Access MDI when viewing
a report. The only thing I didn't like when I tested it is that they
have the
(X) to close the application. 
The user may mistake this X as the one to close the report. In the form
that they use they have to close the app with a button. Anyway, thanks
again everyone. You've all earned the rank of Guru in my books.

Darren DICK wrote:
Hi Lonnie
I use this code all the time too.
When you want to "SEE" (i.e. Preview) a report you have to make the
Access window (MDI) visible again I do this in the onclick of the
'launching' command button for the report or in the load Events of the
report. Then when the report is closed I have code in the Unload to make
the MDI hidden again

I like the look of the hidden MDI and it really suits my purposes, you
just have to put up with The hide, unhide aerobics if you want to keep
hiding the MDI for forms.

If I am mistaken about the MDI and previewing reports I am sure someone
from the list will let me know

See ya 

DD

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie
Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2004 8:14 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window

Yes, I have created the menu as and a toolbar as Jim had also suggested
and assigned their names in the property window for the form and cannot
see either of them when I open it. Am I missing another step?

Thanks Charlotte.

Bobby, Right Click dosen't work in this case with the HideWindow code.

Thanks to all so far.

Charlotte Foust wrote:
Have you created a shortcut menu for the report?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Can't you right-click and choose Print?

Bobby

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:10 PM
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access;
AccessD solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,

I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just
shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)

Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As
Long) As Long Dim dwReturn As Long Const SW_HIDE = 0 Const SW_SHOWNORMAL
= 1 Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....

It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview
reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?

I know there is an answer out there somewhere!

Thanks in advance.



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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Nov  3 11:26:22 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 09:26:22 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] What is App.hInstance in Access
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B3D@infoserver01.infostat.local>

>>the elite Windows 95/98/ME crowd
LOL ... And it isn't even Friday yet!

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Brett Barabash [mailto:BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 9:06 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] What is App.hInstance in Access


No, that parameter refers to the parent instance handle, not the window
handle.

However, according to MSDN, this value is ignored in Windows NT/2000/XP,
so you could just put 0& in its place.

If you wish to cater to the elite Windows 95/98/ME crowd, you need to
use the following code to get the Instance handle from the Application
window:

Private Const GWL_HINSTANCE = (-6)

Private Declare Function GetWindowLong Lib "user32" _
  Alias "GetWindowLongA" (ByVal hwnd As Long, ByVal nIndex As Long) As
Long

GetWindowLong(hWndAccessApp, GWL_HINSTANCE)


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 9:23 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] What is App.hInstance in Access

In looking over the time sync stuff I found a class and module to
replace the winsock OCX control.  It has a call:

    p_lngWindowHandle = CreateWindowEx(0&, "STATIC", "SOCKET_WINDOW",
0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, App.hInstance, ByVal 0&)

which fails on App.hInstance.  I'm assuming that this is a handle to the
application window.  Is there an equivelent in VBA?  I think I solved
that one by:

    p_lngWindowHandle = CreateWindowEx(0&, "STATIC", "SOCKET_WINDOW",
0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, 0&, Application.hWndAccessApp, ByVal 0&)

However I am now getting a compile error on:

    m_lngResolveMessage = RegisterWindowMessage(App.EXEName &
".ResolveMessage")

There is no apparent equivelent property in the Application object. Does
anyone know what I would use here?

John W. Colby
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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Wed Nov  3 13:02:09 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 14:02:09 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C744869E7@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

List,

Has M$ addressed the database bloating issue in A2K3 I've read about on the list?  We're in the process of converting our A97 apps to A2K3 and I'm trying to decide between A2K format or A2K3.  Any suggestions?

TIA,

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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Wed Nov  3 14:25:10 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 21:25:10 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B54D8@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

I use A2K3 for a while now, I believe I never experienced a, out of the
ordinary, bloating in A2K3.

Erwin

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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:02 PM
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Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

List,

Has M$ addressed the database bloating issue in A2K3 I've read about on
the list?  We're in the process of converting our A97 apps to A2K3 and
I'm trying to decide between A2K format or A2K3.  Any suggestions?

TIA,

Jim DeMarco
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Nov  3 14:27:17 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 12:27:17 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B42@infoserver01.infostat.local>

As far as I know, the problem still exists in 2003, and the 2000 format
is still the default in that version.

Charlotte Foust


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List,

Has M$ addressed the database bloating issue in A2K3 I've read about on
the list?  We're in the process of converting our A97 apps to A2K3 and
I'm trying to decide between A2K format or A2K3.  Any suggestions?

TIA,

Jim DeMarco
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From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 12:31:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window (Chris)
In-Reply-To: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27F0C2@snowmass.quiznos.net>
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Hello Chris,
 
I searched the archives with no success. Can you give a little help in finding the instructions?
 
Thanks.

"Mackin, Christopher" <CMackin at quiznos.com> wrote:
You can always have a hidden form that processes the click on the "X" to close the application as a command to close the report. The methodology to prevent the ap from closing has been discussed extensively in the archives, just add some code to that to close the currently visible report and you should be OK.

-Chris Mackin

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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 7:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Thanks DD, Charlotte and Jim.

I may consider using the process of unhiding the Access MDI when viewing a report. The only thing I didn't like when I tested it is that they have the (X) to close the application. 
The user may mistake this X as the one to close the report. In the form that they use they have to close the app with a button. Anyway, thanks again everyone. You've all earned the rank of Guru in my books.

Darren DICK wrote:
Hi Lonnie
I use this code all the time too.
When you want to "SEE" (i.e. Preview) a report you have to make the Access
window (MDI) visible again
I do this in the onclick of the 'launching' command button for the report or
in the load
Events of the report. Then when the report is closed I have code in the
Unload to make the MDI hidden again

I like the look of the hidden MDI and it really suits my purposes, you just
have to put up with
The hide, unhide aerobics if you want to keep hiding the MDI for forms.

If I am mistaken about the MDI and previewing reports I am sure someone from
the list will let me know

See ya 

DD

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2004 8:14 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window

Yes, I have created the menu as and a toolbar as Jim had also suggested and
assigned their names in the property window for the form and cannot see
either of them when I open it. Am I missing another step?

Thanks Charlotte.

Bobby, Right Click dosen't work in this case with the HideWindow code.

Thanks to all so far.

Charlotte Foust wrote:
Have you created a shortcut menu for the report?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Can't you right-click and choose Print?

Bobby

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Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,

I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just
shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)

Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As
Long) As Long Dim dwReturn As Long Const SW_HIDE = 0 Const SW_SHOWNORMAL
= 1 Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....

It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview
reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?

I know there is an answer out there somewhere!

Thanks in advance.



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From CMackin at quiznos.com  Wed Nov  3 14:43:19 2004
From: CMackin at quiznos.com (Mackin, Christopher)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 13:43:19 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window (Chris)
Message-ID: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27F0C6@snowmass.quiznos.net>

Well now that I know that certain favors are off the table I'm not so sure...

Here's one way to do it:
1) Create a global variable called something like gblnAllowAppClose and set it to false
2) Open a form as hidden when you open the app, and in the Unload event of the form you have something like"
	Cancel = Not gblnAllowAppClose
3) If you never set the value of gblnAllowAppClose then nobody can ever exit the app via normal commands so on your Exit button. before you quit the app have something like:
	gblnAllowAppClose = True
	Application.Quit
4) In the unload event of the form you are currently stopping the app from closing and you know that if that Event is called with gblnAllowAppClose = False then someone has tried to exit the app via the "X", so you can drop your code there for how you want to close the current report.

I'm sure someone on the list has a more detailed account of how to do it if this isn't enough.

Good Luck,
Chris Mackin




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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 1:32 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window (Chris)


Hello Chris,
 
I searched the archives with no success. Can you give a little help in finding the instructions?
 
Thanks.

"Mackin, Christopher" <CMackin at quiznos.com> wrote:
You can always have a hidden form that processes the click on the "X" to close the application as a command to close the report. The methodology to prevent the ap from closing has been discussed extensively in the archives, just add some code to that to close the currently visible report and you should be OK.

-Chris Mackin

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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 7:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Thanks DD, Charlotte and Jim.

I may consider using the process of unhiding the Access MDI when viewing a report. The only thing I didn't like when I tested it is that they have the (X) to close the application. 
The user may mistake this X as the one to close the report. In the form that they use they have to close the app with a button. Anyway, thanks again everyone. You've all earned the rank of Guru in my books.

Darren DICK wrote:
Hi Lonnie
I use this code all the time too.
When you want to "SEE" (i.e. Preview) a report you have to make the Access
window (MDI) visible again
I do this in the onclick of the 'launching' command button for the report or
in the load
Events of the report. Then when the report is closed I have code in the
Unload to make the MDI hidden again

I like the look of the hidden MDI and it really suits my purposes, you just
have to put up with
The hide, unhide aerobics if you want to keep hiding the MDI for forms.

If I am mistaken about the MDI and previewing reports I am sure someone from
the list will let me know

See ya 

DD

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2004 8:14 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window

Yes, I have created the menu as and a toolbar as Jim had also suggested and
assigned their names in the property window for the form and cannot see
either of them when I open it. Am I missing another step?

Thanks Charlotte.

Bobby, Right Click dosen't work in this case with the HideWindow code.

Thanks to all so far.

Charlotte Foust wrote:
Have you created a shortcut menu for the report?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Can't you right-click and choose Print?

Bobby

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Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:10 PM
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access;
AccessD solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,

I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just
shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)

Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As
Long) As Long Dim dwReturn As Long Const SW_HIDE = 0 Const SW_SHOWNORMAL
= 1 Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....

It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview
reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?

I know there is an answer out there somewhere!

Thanks in advance.



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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Nov  3 14:44:05 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 12:44:05 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B43@infoserver01.infostat.local>

What file format are you using?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Erwin Craps - IT Helps [mailto:Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 12:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating


I use A2K3 for a while now, I believe I never experienced a, out of the
ordinary, bloating in A2K3.

Erwin

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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:02 PM
To: AccessD (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

List,

Has M$ addressed the database bloating issue in A2K3 I've read about on
the list?  We're in the process of converting our A97 apps to A2K3 and
I'm trying to decide between A2K format or A2K3.  Any suggestions?

TIA,

Jim DeMarco
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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Wed Nov  3 15:02:29 2004
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 16:02:29 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F7E@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Hi All,
If I have data similar to:
JOE001
JOE002
JOE003
JOE005
JOE006

Is there a way, using just SQL, to return the next available number in the
sequence, JOE004, and be flexible enough to return JOE007 if JOE004 had
already existed?
Or do I have to use code to iterate through the records to check for
"holes"?

Thanks!
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Nov  3 15:12:47 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 15:12:47 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window (Chris)
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D05A@main2.marlow.com>

Did you search my archives?  (http://www.wolfwares.com/AccessD) They are
missing the last month or two (long story), but they go back a few years.

Drew

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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 2:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window (Chris)


Hello Chris,
 
I searched the archives with no success. Can you give a little help in
finding the instructions?
 
Thanks.

"Mackin, Christopher" <CMackin at quiznos.com> wrote:
You can always have a hidden form that processes the click on the "X" to
close the application as a command to close the report. The methodology to
prevent the ap from closing has been discussed extensively in the archives,
just add some code to that to close the currently visible report and you
should be OK.

-Chris Mackin

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 7:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Thanks DD, Charlotte and Jim.

I may consider using the process of unhiding the Access MDI when viewing a
report. The only thing I didn't like when I tested it is that they have the
(X) to close the application. 
The user may mistake this X as the one to close the report. In the form that
they use they have to close the app with a button. Anyway, thanks again
everyone. You've all earned the rank of Guru in my books.

Darren DICK wrote:
Hi Lonnie
I use this code all the time too.
When you want to "SEE" (i.e. Preview) a report you have to make the Access
window (MDI) visible again
I do this in the onclick of the 'launching' command button for the report or
in the load
Events of the report. Then when the report is closed I have code in the
Unload to make the MDI hidden again

I like the look of the hidden MDI and it really suits my purposes, you just
have to put up with
The hide, unhide aerobics if you want to keep hiding the MDI for forms.

If I am mistaken about the MDI and previewing reports I am sure someone from
the list will let me know

See ya 

DD

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2004 8:14 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window

Yes, I have created the menu as and a toolbar as Jim had also suggested and
assigned their names in the property window for the form and cannot see
either of them when I open it. Am I missing another step?

Thanks Charlotte.

Bobby, Right Click dosen't work in this case with the HideWindow code.

Thanks to all so far.

Charlotte Foust wrote:
Have you created a shortcut menu for the report?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Can't you right-click and choose Print?

Bobby

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Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:10 PM
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access;
AccessD solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,

I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just
shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)

Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As
Long) As Long Dim dwReturn As Long Const SW_HIDE = 0 Const SW_SHOWNORMAL
= 1 Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....

It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview
reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?

I know there is an answer out there somewhere!

Thanks in advance.



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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Nov  3 15:40:06 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 16:40:06 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
In-Reply-To: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF94F@DISABILITYINS01>
References: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF94F@DISABILITYINS01>
Message-ID: <41895036.2050907@rogers.com>

Colby, John wrote:

>Hmm... do we need a Lonely Hearts list?  ;-)
>
>John W. Colby
>The DIS Database Guy
>
>  
>
Well if so I am seriously into one-legged left-handed bisex biker chicks 
with programming skills. Anyone suitable please whip me and beat me and 
I'll write code for $1 an hour. Oh I forgot... must have an Iroquois cut.



From artful at rogers.com  Wed Nov  3 15:44:14 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 16:44:14 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
In-Reply-To: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F7E@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
References: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F7E@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <4189512E.4000701@rogers.com>

Joe Rojas wrote:

>Hi All,
>If I have data similar to:
>JOE001
>JOE002
>JOE003
>JOE005
>JOE006
>
>Is there a way, using just SQL, to return the next available number in the
>sequence, JOE004, and be flexible enough to return JOE007 if JOE004 had
>already existed?
>Or do I have to use code to iterate through the records to check for
>"holes"?
>
>Thanks!
>JR
>
>
>
>
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IMHO something is wrong with this design. You are packing two columns 
into one and expecting the database to act intelligently: unfair. If you 
really need this column, consider adding two more columns, one with each 
fragment and then concatenating the result in the column you have. The 
problem becomes much simpler with this approach.

But back to the start. Why are you concatenating two column values into one?

A.


From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Wed Nov  3 15:44:38 2004
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 13:44:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window (Chris)
In-Reply-To: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27F0C6@snowmass.quiznos.net>
Message-ID: <20041103214438.93495.qmail@web20426.mail.yahoo.com>

You get a star.
 
 * 
That did it. I have now have a professional looking application that is fully functional.
 


"Mackin, Christopher" <CMackin at quiznos.com> wrote:
Well now that I know that certain favors are off the table I'm not so sure...

Here's one way to do it:
1) Create a global variable called something like gblnAllowAppClose and set it to false
2) Open a form as hidden when you open the app, and in the Unload event of the form you have something like"
Cancel = Not gblnAllowAppClose
3) If you never set the value of gblnAllowAppClose then nobody can ever exit the app via normal commands so on your Exit button. before you quit the app have something like:
gblnAllowAppClose = True
Application.Quit
4) In the unload event of the form you are currently stopping the app from closing and you know that if that Event is called with gblnAllowAppClose = False then someone has tried to exit the app via the "X", so you can drop your code there for how you want to close the current report.

I'm sure someone on the list has a more detailed account of how to do it if this isn't enough.

Good Luck,
Chris Mackin




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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 1:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window (Chris)


Hello Chris,

I searched the archives with no success. Can you give a little help in finding the instructions?

Thanks.

"Mackin, Christopher" wrote:
You can always have a hidden form that processes the click on the "X" to close the application as a command to close the report. The methodology to prevent the ap from closing has been discussed extensively in the archives, just add some code to that to close the currently visible report and you should be OK.

-Chris Mackin

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 7:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Thanks DD, Charlotte and Jim.

I may consider using the process of unhiding the Access MDI when viewing a report. The only thing I didn't like when I tested it is that they have the (X) to close the application. 
The user may mistake this X as the one to close the report. In the form that they use they have to close the app with a button. Anyway, thanks again everyone. You've all earned the rank of Guru in my books.

Darren DICK wrote:
Hi Lonnie
I use this code all the time too.
When you want to "SEE" (i.e. Preview) a report you have to make the Access
window (MDI) visible again
I do this in the onclick of the 'launching' command button for the report or
in the load
Events of the report. Then when the report is closed I have code in the
Unload to make the MDI hidden again

I like the look of the hidden MDI and it really suits my purposes, you just
have to put up with
The hide, unhide aerobics if you want to keep hiding the MDI for forms.

If I am mistaken about the MDI and previewing reports I am sure someone from
the list will let me know

See ya 

DD

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2004 8:14 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window

Yes, I have created the menu as and a toolbar as Jim had also suggested and
assigned their names in the property window for the form and cannot see
either of them when I open it. Am I missing another step?

Thanks Charlotte.

Bobby, Right Click dosen't work in this case with the HideWindow code.

Thanks to all so far.

Charlotte Foust wrote:
Have you created a shortcut menu for the report?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Can't you right-click and choose Print?

Bobby

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Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:10 PM
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access;
AccessD solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,

I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just
shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)

Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As
Long) As Long Dim dwReturn As Long Const SW_HIDE = 0 Const SW_SHOWNORMAL
= 1 Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....

It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview
reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?

I know there is an answer out there somewhere!

Thanks in advance.



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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Nov  3 16:13:01 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 09:13:01 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
In-Reply-To: <20041103143644.16433.qmail@web20424.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200411032213.iA3MD9XH017636@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Lonnie
I have a switchboard type form open all the time
It is hidden or not hidden depending on where the user has gone

When reports are open and the MDI is displayed I have it hidden

In the On close of the Switchboard the User is prompted with a msgbox

Are you sure you want to close and quit the <<appname>> application?
(VBYESNO)

That way if they click the big X not the little x in the reports area
It (obviously) attempts to close the app, thus attempts to close the
Switchboard 
and thus the MsgBox Confirming quitting comes up.

After show or explaining it once they realise they have clicked the bigX
By mistake and they answer no the to MsgBox and everything's is cool

Simple <vbg>

There are heaps of ways of doing this.
Have a look in the archives or contact me off list and "I'll show you mine"
;-)))

See ya

DD


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2004 1:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window

Thanks DD, Charlotte and Jim.
 
I may consider using the process of unhiding the Access MDI when viewing a
report. The only thing I didn't like when I tested it is that they have the
(X) to close the application. 
The user may mistake this X as the one to close the report. In the form that
they use they have to close the app with a button. Anyway, thanks again
everyone. You've all earned the rank of Guru in my books.

Darren DICK <d.dick at uws.edu.au> wrote:
Hi Lonnie
I use this code all the time too.
When you want to "SEE" (i.e. Preview) a report you have to make the Access
window (MDI) visible again I do this in the onclick of the 'launching'
command button for the report or in the load Events of the report. Then when
the report is closed I have code in the Unload to make the MDI hidden again

I like the look of the hidden MDI and it really suits my purposes, you just
have to put up with The hide, unhide aerobics if you want to keep hiding the
MDI for forms.

If I am mistaken about the MDI and previewing reports I am sure someone from
the list will let me know

See ya 

DD

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2004 8:14 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window

Yes, I have created the menu as and a toolbar as Jim had also suggested and
assigned their names in the property window for the form and cannot see
either of them when I open it. Am I missing another step?

Thanks Charlotte.

Bobby, Right Click dosen't work in this case with the HideWindow code.

Thanks to all so far.

Charlotte Foust wrote:
Have you created a shortcut menu for the report?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Can't you right-click and choose Print?

Bobby

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:10 PM
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu'; AccessDevelopers; ms_access; AccessD
solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,

I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just shows
a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)

Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As
Long) As Long Dim dwReturn As Long Const SW_HIDE = 0 Const SW_SHOWNORMAL = 1
Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....

It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview reports.
However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?

I know there is an answer out there somewhere!

Thanks in advance.



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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Nov  3 16:20:40 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 14:20:40 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B47@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Arthur!  I didn't know you CARED!! LOL

Charlotte Foust


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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 1:40 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Colby, John wrote:

>Hmm... do we need a Lonely Hearts list?  ;-)
>
>John W. Colby
>The DIS Database Guy
>
>  
>
Well if so I am seriously into one-legged left-handed bisex biker chicks

with programming skills. Anyone suitable please whip me and beat me and 
I'll write code for $1 an hour. Oh I forgot... must have an Iroquois
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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Nov  3 16:22:53 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 09:22:53 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B43@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <200411032223.iA3MN2XH027861@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Jim
I think the issue is still there - maybe lessened, but still there

If you have access to the app perhaps try this...
I get into the code area and compile it
I have an icon Called DECOMPILE in the SendTo folder of AllUsers that points
to

C:\ProgramFiles\Microsoft Office\OfficeXX\MSACCESS.exe /decompile

(Replace the path with your Access Path)

Then I right click the dB or the db's shortcut icon and click SendTo and
select DECOMPILE

Then I get into the dB and Compact and repair it.

I can get a 9 meg monster down to about 1.8 - 2 megs

Do it every time I deliver a fresh version or app

HTH

See ya

DD


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2004 7:44 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

What file format are you using?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Erwin Craps - IT Helps [mailto:Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 12:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating


I use A2K3 for a while now, I believe I never experienced a, out of the
ordinary, bloating in A2K3.

Erwin

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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:02 PM
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Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

List,

Has M$ addressed the database bloating issue in A2K3 I've read about on
the list?  We're in the process of converting our A97 apps to A2K3 and
I'm trying to decide between A2K format or A2K3.  Any suggestions?

TIA,

Jim DeMarco
Director Application Development
Hudson Health Plan
Tarrytown, NY


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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Wed Nov  3 18:27:19 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 01:27:19 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B54DB@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Charlotte

As far as I know A2K3 uses the 2002/2003 format by default. Maybe I
changed it once in the options don't kown for sure, but anyway I did not
experianced some bloating in 2002/2003 format...

But I must confess I did not do any heavy developing yet in A2K3, I only
switched one major and big app recently from A2K to A2K3. Now I just
started a new app in A2K3, but I only started that yet...

Erwin


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 9:27 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

As far as I know, the problem still exists in 2003, and the 2000 format
is still the default in that version.

Charlotte Foust


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From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 11:02 AM
To: AccessD (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating


List,

Has M$ addressed the database bloating issue in A2K3 I've read about on
the list?  We're in the process of converting our A97 apps to A2K3 and
I'm trying to decide between A2K format or A2K3.  Any suggestions?

TIA,

Jim DeMarco
Director Application Development
Hudson Health Plan
Tarrytown, NY


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Nov  3 19:32:35 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 17:32:35 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B49@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Are you sure?  I understood that A2K3 used the 2000 format by default.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Erwin Craps - IT Helps [mailto:Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 4:27 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating


Charlotte

As far as I know A2K3 uses the 2002/2003 format by default. Maybe I
changed it once in the options don't kown for sure, but anyway I did not
experianced some bloating in 2002/2003 format...

But I must confess I did not do any heavy developing yet in A2K3, I only
switched one major and big app recently from A2K to A2K3. Now I just
started a new app in A2K3, but I only started that yet...

Erwin


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Foust
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 9:27 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

As far as I know, the problem still exists in 2003, and the 2000 format
is still the default in that version.

Charlotte Foust


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From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 11:02 AM
To: AccessD (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating


List,

Has M$ addressed the database bloating issue in A2K3 I've read about on
the list?  We're in the process of converting our A97 apps to A2K3 and
I'm trying to decide between A2K format or A2K3.  Any suggestions?

TIA,

Jim DeMarco
Director Application Development
Hudson Health Plan
Tarrytown, NY


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From KP at sdsonline.net  Wed Nov  3 21:19:20 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 14:19:20 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete Missing references
Message-ID: <000a01c4c21d$13ae0bb0$6401a8c0@user>

Yesterday I was out on-site with a client and together we made some changes to the mdb. I burned a copy of the modified version to bring home to continue working on and now the references are causing me some problems.

Client had Frontpage refs which are newer than mine - so naturally when I load I get 'Missing' for the 2 front page files. I tried to just untick those refs and then add my versions but I simply cannot untick those missing references and click OK - I get error message 'Cannot perform requested operation'. The other thing I tried was to replace the refs by clicking browse and override the missing refs with mine - same error.

BTW - I thought maybe an open form or something may be blocking me from changing the refs - but I am just shift+opening the mdb - no open forms or anything else.

What am I missing? 

TIA

Kath


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Nov  3 21:36:24 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 22:36:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete Missing references
In-Reply-To: <000a01c4c21d$13ae0bb0$6401a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <002901c4c21f$75c5f9a0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

When you say burned a copy do you mean to CD?  Is the mdb file read only
now?  Check with windows explorer and set back to r/w if it is read only.
When copying from CD to disk the file is copied Read Only.

John W. Colby
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Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete Missing references


Yesterday I was out on-site with a client and together we made some changes
to the mdb. I burned a copy of the modified version to bring home to
continue working on and now the references are causing me some problems.

Client had Frontpage refs which are newer than mine - so naturally when I
load I get 'Missing' for the 2 front page files. I tried to just untick
those refs and then add my versions but I simply cannot untick those missing
references and click OK - I get error message 'Cannot perform requested
operation'. The other thing I tried was to replace the refs by clicking
browse and override the missing refs with mine - same error.

BTW - I thought maybe an open form or something may be blocking me from
changing the refs - but I am just shift+opening the mdb - no open forms or
anything else.

What am I missing? 

TIA

Kath
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Wed Nov  3 21:49:25 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 14:49:25 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete Missing references
References: <002901c4c21f$75c5f9a0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <000b01c4c221$476ef5a0$6401a8c0@user>

Thanks John - no - I checked that.....I have also now tried a couple of other things 

- I have tried to import all objects into a clean new mdb - it will not import the forms because of this refs prob,
- I have run Jetcomp and created a new version - but it also has the same problem.

The references in problem are to Frontpage - I can't believe that I can't just remove them and create them again....
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  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 2:36 PM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete Missing references


  When you say burned a copy do you mean to CD?  Is the mdb file read only
  now?  Check with windows explorer and set back to r/w if it is read only.
  When copying from CD to disk the file is copied Read Only.

  John W. Colby
  www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:19 PM
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
  Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete Missing references


  Yesterday I was out on-site with a client and together we made some changes
  to the mdb. I burned a copy of the modified version to bring home to
  continue working on and now the references are causing me some problems.

  Client had Frontpage refs which are newer than mine - so naturally when I
  load I get 'Missing' for the 2 front page files. I tried to just untick
  those refs and then add my versions but I simply cannot untick those missing
  references and click OK - I get error message 'Cannot perform requested
  operation'. The other thing I tried was to replace the refs by clicking
  browse and override the missing refs with mine - same error.

  BTW - I thought maybe an open form or something may be blocking me from
  changing the refs - but I am just shift+opening the mdb - no open forms or
  anything else.

  What am I missing? 

  TIA

  Kath
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Wed Nov  3 21:52:50 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 14:52:50 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Online Access groups
References: <20041102201001.60145.qmail@web20424.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001a01c4c221$c14f3740$6401a8c0@user>

Lonnie - just a quick OT - I notice that your post also went to other Access groups - do you find them as useful as AccessD?

Kath
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  From: Lonnie Johnson 
  To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu' ; AccessDevelopers ; ms_access ; AccessD solving' 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 7:10 AM
  Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


  Hello all,
   
  I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)
   
  Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As Long) As Long
  Dim dwReturn As Long
  Const SW_HIDE = 0
  Const SW_SHOWNORMAL = 1
  Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....
   
  It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?
   
  I know there is an answer out there somewhere!
   
  Thanks in advance.



  May God bless you beyond your imagination!
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  ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
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From michael.mattys at adelphia.net  Wed Nov  3 22:17:19 2004
From: michael.mattys at adelphia.net (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 23:17:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Online Access groups
References: <20041102201001.60145.qmail@web20424.mail.yahoo.com>
	<001a01c4c221$c14f3740$6401a8c0@user>
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kath Pelletti" <KP at sdsonline.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:52 PM
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Online Access groups


Lonnie - just a quick OT - I notice that your post also went to other Access
groups - do you find them as useful as AccessD?

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Lonnie Johnson
  To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu' ; AccessDevelopers ; ms_access ;
AccessD solving'


Now hold on there, Kath, let's see ... um, hm ... try this:

Application.SaveAsText acForm, "FormName", "DesiredPath"

I'm thinking that if there's a FrontPage control on this form that
you can just delete it from the text file, delete the form, remove the
bad ref, and then import that file right back in as a form.

----

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Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Thu Nov  4 00:53:45 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 07:53:45 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B54DC@stekelbes.ithelps.local>


You can set the default DB type for new database between 200O or
2002/2003 in the option menu.

On my computer it is set tp 2002/2003, it is posible that I changed it
to 2002/2003 but I don't see the point having A2K3 and creating by
default new databases in 2000 format, seems pointless to me. I'll check
on my other computers, if I did changed that option, than probably not
on the those.

You can work and modify 2000 dababase files without converting in Access
2003.
Maybe the bloat is still present in A2K3 when using A2K database.

Erwin

 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 2:33 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

Are you sure?  I understood that A2K3 used the 2000 format by default.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Erwin Craps - IT Helps [mailto:Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 4:27 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating


Charlotte

As far as I know A2K3 uses the 2002/2003 format by default. Maybe I
changed it once in the options don't kown for sure, but anyway I did not
experianced some bloating in 2002/2003 format...

But I must confess I did not do any heavy developing yet in A2K3, I only
switched one major and big app recently from A2K to A2K3. Now I just
started a new app in A2K3, but I only started that yet...

Erwin


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 9:27 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

As far as I know, the problem still exists in 2003, and the 2000 format
is still the default in that version.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 11:02 AM
To: AccessD (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating


List,

Has M$ addressed the database bloating issue in A2K3 I've read about on
the list?  We're in the process of converting our A97 apps to A2K3 and
I'm trying to decide between A2K format or A2K3.  Any suggestions?

TIA,

Jim DeMarco
Director Application Development
Hudson Health Plan
Tarrytown, NY


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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Nov  4 01:25:59 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 07:25:59 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
In-Reply-To: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F7E@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <000401c4c23f$88a4b3c0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Joe
The only way I can come up with is if you created a table of all possible
numbers, left joined that to this table, had a WHERE statement that limited
the selection to records where the key on the joined table (yours) was null
(ie no match) and returned the TOP 1 of those.

-- Andy Lacey
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> Sent: 03 November 2004 21:02
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
> 
> 
> Hi All,
> If I have data similar to:
> JOE001
> JOE002
> JOE003
> JOE005
> JOE006
> 
> Is there a way, using just SQL, to return the next available 
> number in the sequence, JOE004, and be flexible enough to 
> return JOE007 if JOE004 had already existed? Or do I have to 
> use code to iterate through the records to check for "holes"?
> 
> Thanks!
> JR
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov  4 03:52:11 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 10:52:11 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
In-Reply-To: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F7E@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
References: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F7E@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <896943354.20041104105211@cactus.dk>

Hi Joe

> If I have data similar to:
> JOE001
> JOE002
> JOE003
> JOE005
> JOE006

> Is there a way, using just SQL, to return the next available number in the
> sequence, JOE004, and be flexible enough to return JOE007 if JOE004 had
> already existed?
> Or do I have to use code to iterate through the records to check for
> "holes"?

Except for the indication of some malfunctioning during the design
state as already pointed out by others, there is:

<SQL>

  SELECT TOP 1
    TextID,
    Left(TextID, Len(TextID)-3) &
      Right(String(3,"0") & Right(TextID,3)+1,3) AS NextID
  FROM
    tblID
  WHERE
    (Nz(
      (Select Top 1
        Val(Right(TextID,3))
      From
        tblID As T
      Where
        T.TextID > tblID.TextID)
      -Val(Right([TextID],3)),
    2)>1)
  ORDER BY
    tblID.TextID;

</SQL>

All the "3"s count for the length of the numeric right part of the
textid. 
Note the "magic 2" in Nz() which cares for the return of the last
textid if no "holes" exist.

/gustav



From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Thu Nov  4 06:12:51 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 07:12:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C33D@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

My database is hooked to a .mdw.  During the development stage, I want
to open up the database and bypass this nag screen that asks for the
user name and password.  I have been googling, but can't find too much.
I would like the shortcut on my desktop to do it, I think.  But at this
point I will do just about anything to disconnect it while I am
developing.  Thanks, wise ones.


From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Thu Nov  4 06:21:23 2004
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 17:51:23 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
References: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F7E@mercury.tnco-inc.com> 
	<896943354.20041104105211@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <006501c4c268$dc8c5c30$7d1865cb@winxp>

    Excellent - Gustav!   Beautiful SQL.

A.D.Tejpal
--------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gustav Brock 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 15:22
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL


  Hi Joe

  > If I have data similar to:
  > JOE001
  > JOE002
  > JOE003
  > JOE005
  > JOE006

  > Is there a way, using just SQL, to return the next available number in the
  > sequence, JOE004, and be flexible enough to return JOE007 if JOE004 had
  > already existed?
  > Or do I have to use code to iterate through the records to check for
  > "holes"?

  Except for the indication of some malfunctioning during the design
  state as already pointed out by others, there is:

  <SQL>

    SELECT TOP 1
      TextID,
      Left(TextID, Len(TextID)-3) &
        Right(String(3,"0") & Right(TextID,3)+1,3) AS NextID
    FROM
      tblID
    WHERE
      (Nz(
        (Select Top 1
          Val(Right(TextID,3))
        From
          tblID As T
        Where
          T.TextID > tblID.TextID)
        -Val(Right([TextID],3)),
      2)>1)
    ORDER BY
      tblID.TextID;

  </SQL>

  All the "3"s count for the length of the numeric right part of the
  textid. 
  Note the "magic 2" in Nz() which cares for the return of the last
  textid if no "holes" exist.

  /gustav



From mgauk at btconnect.com  Thu Nov  4 06:26:56 2004
From: mgauk at btconnect.com (MG)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 12:26:56 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C33D@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <200411041228.iA4CS3L07803@databaseadvisors.com>

Try a shortcut on your desk, (watch for word wrap) viz:
"C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\MSACCESS.EXE"
"C:\_MCM\MCMFrontEnd.mdb"  /wrkgrp  "\\Server\svr-c\MCM\MySystem.mdw"  /USER
max/PWD max123456789

Regards
Max


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen
Sent: 04 November 2004 12:13
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery

My database is hooked to a .mdw.  During the development stage, I want to
open up the database and bypass this nag screen that asks for the user name
and password.  I have been googling, but can't find too much.
I would like the shortcut on my desktop to do it, I think.  But at this
point I will do just about anything to disconnect it while I am developing.
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From mark.breen at gmail.com  Thu Nov  4 07:18:47 2004
From: mark.breen at gmail.com (Mark Breen)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 13:18:47 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
In-Reply-To: <006501c4c268$dc8c5c30$7d1865cb@winxp>
References: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F7E@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
	<896943354.20041104105211@cactus.dk>
	<006501c4c268$dc8c5c30$7d1865cb@winxp>
Message-ID: <26a96cce041104051829a2a584@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Gustav,

Really beautiful. Compliments to you.  Of course when we read the SQL
now, it is simple, but not so simple when we were the other side of
the fence.

I love to hand write my SQL when practical.

Mark




On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 17:51:23 +0530, A.D.Tejpal <adtp at touchtelindia.net> wrote:
>    Excellent - Gustav!   Beautiful SQL.
> 
> A.D.Tejpal
> --------------
> 
> 
> 
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Gustav Brock
>  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 15:22
>  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
> 
>  Hi Joe
> 
>  > If I have data similar to:
>  > JOE001
>  > JOE002
>  > JOE003
>  > JOE005
>  > JOE006
> 
>  > Is there a way, using just SQL, to return the next available number in the
>  > sequence, JOE004, and be flexible enough to return JOE007 if JOE004 had
>  > already existed?
>  > Or do I have to use code to iterate through the records to check for
>  > "holes"?
> 
>  Except for the indication of some malfunctioning during the design
>  state as already pointed out by others, there is:
> 
>  <SQL>
> 
>    SELECT TOP 1
>      TextID,
>      Left(TextID, Len(TextID)-3) &
>        Right(String(3,"0") & Right(TextID,3)+1,3) AS NextID
>    FROM
>      tblID
>    WHERE
>      (Nz(
>        (Select Top 1
>          Val(Right(TextID,3))
>        From
>          tblID As T
>        Where
>          T.TextID > tblID.TextID)
>        -Val(Right([TextID],3)),
>      2)>1)
>    ORDER BY
>      tblID.TextID;
> 
>  </SQL>
> 
>  All the "3"s count for the length of the numeric right part of the
>  textid.
>  Note the "magic 2" in Nz() which cares for the return of the last
>  textid if no "holes" exist.
> 
>  /gustav
> 
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From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Thu Nov  4 07:20:16 2004
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 05:20:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Online Access groups
In-Reply-To: <001a01c4c221$c14f3740$6401a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <20041104132016.35417.qmail@web20424.mail.yahoo.com>

I try not to cross post much. This and AccessDevelopers are two that I find most helpful. Because I was desperate and needed a solution fast, I solicited the help of every forum I could to tug at every available guru I could.

Kath Pelletti <KP at sdsonline.net> wrote:Lonnie - just a quick OT - I notice that your post also went to other Access groups - do you find them as useful as AccessD?

Kath
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Lonnie Johnson 
To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu' ; AccessDevelopers ; ms_access ; AccessD solving' 
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 7:10 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window


Hello all,

I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)

Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As Long) As Long
Dim dwReturn As Long
Const SW_HIDE = 0
Const SW_SHOWNORMAL = 1
Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....

It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?

I know there is an answer out there somewhere!

Thanks in advance.



May God bless you beyond your imagination!
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Nov  4 06:24:56 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 13:24:56 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
Message-ID: <20041104132453.C747F25490F@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Gustav, I'm in awe!!! But I don't fully understand how it works. What does
the:

Nz((Select Top 1 Val(Right(TextID,3))

return, and how does checking it being >1 spot the gaps?

--
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http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



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To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
Date: 04/11/04 12:23

>
>     Excellent - Gustav!   Beautiful SQL.
>
> A.D.Tejpal
> --------------
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Gustav Brock
>   To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>   Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 15:22
>   Subject: Re: [AccessD] Checking for &quot;holes&quot; in a sequence
using SQL
>
>
>   Hi Joe
>
>   &gt; If I have data similar to:
>   &gt; JOE001
>   &gt; JOE002
>   &gt; JOE003
>   &gt; JOE005
>   &gt; JOE006
>
>   &gt; Is there a way, using just SQL, to return the next available number
in the
>   &gt; sequence, JOE004, and be flexible enough to return JOE007 if JOE004
had
>   &gt; already existed?
>   &gt; Or do I have to use code to iterate through the records to check
for
>   &gt; &quot;holes&quot;?
>
>   Except for the indication of some malfunctioning during the design
>   state as already pointed out by others, there is:
>
>   &lt;SQL&gt;
>
>     SELECT TOP 1
>       TextID,
>       Left(TextID, Len(TextID)-3) &amp;
>         Right(String(3,&quot;0&quot;) &amp; Right(TextID,3)+1,3) AS NextID
>     FROM
>       tblID
>     WHERE
>       (Nz(
>         (Select Top 1
>           Val(Right(TextID,3))
>         From
>           tblID As T
>         Where
>           T.TextID &gt; tblID.TextID)
>         -Val(Right([TextID],3)),
>       2)&gt;1)
>     ORDER BY
>       tblID.TextID;
>
>   &lt;/SQL&gt;
>
>   All the &quot;3&quot;s count for the length of the numeric right part of
the
>   textid.
>   Note the &quot;magic 2&quot; in Nz() which cares for the return of the
last
>   textid if no &quot;holes&quot; exist.
>
>   /gustav
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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Thu Nov  4 07:41:47 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 08:41:47 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery - SUCCESSFUL
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C342@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

What a sigh of relief. Thank you so much.

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Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:27 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery


Try a shortcut on your desk, (watch for word wrap) viz:
"C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\MSACCESS.EXE"
"C:\_MCM\MCMFrontEnd.mdb"  /wrkgrp  "\\Server\svr-c\MCM\MySystem.mdw"
/USER
max/PWD max123456789

Regards
Max


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Sent: 04 November 2004 12:13
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Subject: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery

My database is hooked to a .mdw.  During the development stage, I want
to
open up the database and bypass this nag screen that asks for the user
name
and password.  I have been googling, but can't find too much.
I would like the shortcut on my desktop to do it, I think.  But at this
point I will do just about anything to disconnect it while I am
developing.
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov  4 08:42:37 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 15:42:37 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
In-Reply-To: <20041104132453.C747F25490F@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
References: <20041104132453.C747F25490F@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <8724369731.20041104154237@cactus.dk>

Hi Andy, Mark and A.D

> Gustav, I'm in awe!!! But I don't fully understand how it works. What does
> the:

> Nz((Select Top 1 Val(Right(TextID,3))

> return, and how does checking it being >1 spot the gaps?

Thanks!

It uses the numeric part of Joe's textid to find the next higher id
and the difference between these. This difference is, of course, 1
where no holes exist. If a hole is present, the difference will be 2
or larger.
However, if no holes are present, no difference is found and it is
Null and the expression with (Select ..)-Val(..) will be Null as well.
This is caught by Nz() here:

  Nz((Select ..)-Val(Right([TextID],3)),2)

which returns 2 for the "missing" hole at the last textid.
Finally textid is sorted and Top 1 is added to find the first hole
and only this.

/gustav



From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Nov  4 08:21:01 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 15:21:01 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
Message-ID: <20041104152057.BC43E254F24@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

I get it, but I wouldn't have dreamed that up in a million years. Hats off
to you Gustav.

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Date: 04/11/04 14:49

>
> Hi Andy, Mark and A.D
>
> &gt; Gustav, I'm in awe!!! But I don't fully understand how it works. What
does
> &gt; the:
>
> &gt; Nz((Select Top 1 Val(Right(TextID,3))
>
> &gt; return, and how does checking it being &gt;1 spot the gaps?
>
> Thanks!
>
> It uses the numeric part of Joe's textid to find the next higher id
> and the difference between these. This difference is, of course, 1
> where no holes exist. If a hole is present, the difference will be 2
> or larger.
> However, if no holes are present, no difference is found and it is
> Null and the expression with (Select ..)-Val(..) will be Null as well.
> This is caught by Nz() here:
>
>   Nz((Select ..)-Val(Right([TextID],3)),2)
>
> which returns 2 for the &quot;missing&quot; hole at the last textid.
> Finally textid is sorted and Top 1 is added to find the first hole
> and only this.
>
> /gustav
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From william.thompson1 at att.net  Thu Nov  4 09:48:58 2004
From: william.thompson1 at att.net (William Thompson)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 07:48:58 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Access FE Field Names with Spaces - in SQL Server BE
In-Reply-To: <20041104152057.BC43E254F24@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <200411041549.iA4Fn5L11490@databaseadvisors.com>


Has it been anyone's experience either in Code, Form, Class or Procedure
where field names with spaces in a SQL Server backend caused a breakage,
with no work-around?  My primary concern is with unbound forms and passing
openargs to a popup form.

Assuming no view is used to translate or alter the field name?

I assume that all my field references will have to be altered to "[" &
fieldname & "]" - even the fields that already have bracketed table
definitions, like [Field With Spaces] in SQL Server.

Bill Thompson



From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Thu Nov  4 10:05:10 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 11:05:10 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access FE Field Names with Spaces - in SQL Server BE
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C347@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

I have not had a problem, and the psycho that created this SQL backend
used spaces, # signs, ? Marks, \ backslashes and asterisks in the field
names.  I have had to bracket all references to the field names and will
get around to changing them.

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BE



Has it been anyone's experience either in Code, Form, Class or Procedure
where field names with spaces in a SQL Server backend caused a breakage,
with no work-around?  My primary concern is with unbound forms and
passing
openargs to a popup form.

Assuming no view is used to translate or alter the field name?

I assume that all my field references will have to be altered to "[" &
fieldname & "]" - even the fields that already have bracketed table
definitions, like [Field With Spaces] in SQL Server.

Bill Thompson

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Nov  4 10:14:14 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 08:14:14 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B4A@infoserver01.infostat.local>

The uncompressible bloat occurs in a system table that doesn't exist in
the 2000 format, which is why we use that format for our data mdbs.  We
use the 2002 format for the front ends.  As long as some of our users
want to be able to use A2k or VB6 to work with the file, 2000 is the
preferred data format for us.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Erwin Craps - IT Helps [mailto:Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:54 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating



You can set the default DB type for new database between 200O or
2002/2003 in the option menu.

On my computer it is set tp 2002/2003, it is posible that I changed it
to 2002/2003 but I don't see the point having A2K3 and creating by
default new databases in 2000 format, seems pointless to me. I'll check
on my other computers, if I did changed that option, than probably not
on the those.

You can work and modify 2000 dababase files without converting in Access
2003. Maybe the bloat is still present in A2K3 when using A2K database.

Erwin

 
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Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 2:33 AM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

Are you sure?  I understood that A2K3 used the 2000 format by default.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 4:27 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating


Charlotte

As far as I know A2K3 uses the 2002/2003 format by default. Maybe I
changed it once in the options don't kown for sure, but anyway I did not
experianced some bloating in 2002/2003 format...

But I must confess I did not do any heavy developing yet in A2K3, I only
switched one major and big app recently from A2K to A2K3. Now I just
started a new app in A2K3, but I only started that yet...

Erwin


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Foust
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 9:27 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

As far as I know, the problem still exists in 2003, and the 2000 format
is still the default in that version.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 11:02 AM
To: AccessD (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating


List,

Has M$ addressed the database bloating issue in A2K3 I've read about on
the list?  We're in the process of converting our A97 apps to A2K3 and
I'm trying to decide between A2K format or A2K3.  Any suggestions?

TIA,

Jim DeMarco
Director Application Development
Hudson Health Plan
Tarrytown, NY


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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Thu Nov  4 10:10:48 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 11:10:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C348@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

What would you do if the PWD is null, none assigned in the .mdw?  AND...
Is it OK to store the .mdw reference on a shared drive on the network
instead of on an individual PCs folder?

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Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:27 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery


Try a shortcut on your desk, (watch for word wrap) viz:
"C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\MSACCESS.EXE"
"C:\_MCM\MCMFrontEnd.mdb"  /wrkgrp  "\\Server\svr-c\MCM\MySystem.mdw"
/USER
max/PWD max123456789

Regards
Max


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Sent: 04 November 2004 12:13
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery

My database is hooked to a .mdw.  During the development stage, I want
to
open up the database and bypass this nag screen that asks for the user
name
and password.  I have been googling, but can't find too much.
I would like the shortcut on my desktop to do it, I think.  But at this
point I will do just about anything to disconnect it while I am
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Thu Nov  4 10:42:15 2004
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 11:42:15 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A2757@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

With no password, if you pass the user name in the command line then the
worst you'll have to do is hit enter when the password dialog appears. Not
too arduous <g>.

There is little point in having the MDW file on the user's machine. If you
needed to move them into a different user group you would have to visit the
workstation to do that. So the MDW should always be centrally stored,
available to all users.  But note, the MDW is in fact just a plain ordinary
MDB file with a different extension. As such it is subject to all the usual
corruption risks, so I should be sure to backup the file at least once every
day.

If you do get a corruption of the MDW file, usually it is enough to open it
with Access (from the File, Open menu) and run a Repair on it.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
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> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen
> Sent:	Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:11 AM
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> 
> What would you do if the PWD is null, none assigned in the .mdw?  AND...
> Is it OK to store the .mdw reference on a shared drive on the network
> instead of on an individual PCs folder?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MG
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:27 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery
> 
> 
> Try a shortcut on your desk, (watch for word wrap) viz:
> "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\MSACCESS.EXE"
> "C:\_MCM\MCMFrontEnd.mdb"  /wrkgrp  "\\Server\svr-c\MCM\MySystem.mdw"
> /USER
> max/PWD max123456789
> 
> Regards
> Max
> 
> 
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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
> Karen
> Sent: 04 November 2004 12:13
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery
> 
> My database is hooked to a .mdw.  During the development stage, I want
> to
> open up the database and bypass this nag screen that asks for the user
> name
> and password.  I have been googling, but can't find too much.
> I would like the shortcut on my desktop to do it, I think.  But at this
> point I will do just about anything to disconnect it while I am
> developing.
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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Thu Nov  4 11:05:00 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 12:05:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C34A@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

That is what I was thinking - why put it on a user's machine?  So that
makes sense.  The backend is now in SQL and the security for the tables
is ruled by SQL.  I can put something in the start up of the app to
identify the lan user id, and if they are not in my group of users, then
out they go.

So... How does one get rid of the reference to the .mdw once one has
been established?  If I open up any Access database, this stoopid thing
runs.  On the web, it is telling me to re-install Access.  Must be a
better way.

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Lambert
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:42 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; Nicholson, Karen
Subject: RE: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op


With no password, if you pass the user name in the command line then the
worst you'll have to do is hit enter when the password dialog appears.
Not
too arduous <g>.

There is little point in having the MDW file on the user's machine. If
you
needed to move them into a different user group you would have to visit
the
workstation to do that. So the MDW should always be centrally stored,
available to all users.  But note, the MDW is in fact just a plain
ordinary
MDB file with a different extension. As such it is subject to all the
usual
corruption risks, so I should be sure to backup the file at least once
every
day.

If you do get a corruption of the MDW file, usually it is enough to open
it
with Access (from the File, Open menu) and run a Repair on it.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
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> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
> Sent:	Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:11 AM
> To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject:	[AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
> 
> What would you do if the PWD is null, none assigned in the .mdw?
AND...
> Is it OK to store the .mdw reference on a shared drive on the network
> instead of on an individual PCs folder?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MG
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:27 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery
> 
> 
> Try a shortcut on your desk, (watch for word wrap) viz:
> "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\MSACCESS.EXE"
> "C:\_MCM\MCMFrontEnd.mdb"  /wrkgrp  "\\Server\svr-c\MCM\MySystem.mdw"
> /USER
> max/PWD max123456789
> 
> Regards
> Max
> 
> 
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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
> Karen
> Sent: 04 November 2004 12:13
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery
> 
> My database is hooked to a .mdw.  During the development stage, I want
> to
> open up the database and bypass this nag screen that asks for the user
> name
> and password.  I have been googling, but can't find too much.
> I would like the shortcut on my desktop to do it, I think.  But at
this
> point I will do just about anything to disconnect it while I am
> developing.
> Thanks, wise ones.
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov  4 11:38:04 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 18:38:04 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C34A@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
References: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C34A@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <034895887.20041104183804@cactus.dk>

Hi Karen

If the password is empty and you completely remove the /pwd parameter
from the command line of the shortcut, the dialog will not pop up.

/gustav


> That is what I was thinking - why put it on a user's machine?  So that
> makes sense.  The backend is now in SQL and the security for the tables
> is ruled by SQL.  I can put something in the start up of the app to
> identify the lan user id, and if they are not in my group of users, then
> out they go.

> So... How does one get rid of the reference to the .mdw once one has
> been established?  If I open up any Access database, this stoopid thing
> runs.  On the web, it is telling me to re-install Access.  Must be a
> better way.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan,
> Lambert
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:42 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; Nicholson, Karen
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op


> With no password, if you pass the user name in the command line then the
> worst you'll have to do is hit enter when the password dialog appears.
> Not
> too arduous <g>.

> There is little point in having the MDW file on the user's machine. If you
> needed to move them into a different user group you would have to visit the
> workstation to do that. So the MDW should always be centrally stored,
> available to all users.  But note, the MDW is in fact just a plain ordinary
> MDB file with a different extension. As such it is subject to all the usual
> corruption risks, so I should be sure to backup the file at least once every
> day.

> If you do get a corruption of the MDW file, usually it is enough to open it
> with Access (from the File, Open menu) and run a Repair on it.

> Lambert

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen
>> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:11 AM
>> To:   Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject:      [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
>> 
>> What would you do if the PWD is null, none assigned in the .mdw? AND...
>> Is it OK to store the .mdw reference on a shared drive on the network
>> instead of on an individual PCs folder?
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MG
>> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:27 AM
>> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>> Subject: RE: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery
>> 
>> 
>> Try a shortcut on your desk, (watch for word wrap) viz:
>> "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\MSACCESS.EXE"
>> "C:\_MCM\MCMFrontEnd.mdb"  /wrkgrp  "\\Server\svr-c\MCM\MySystem.mdw"
>> /USER
>> max/PWD max123456789
>> 
>> Regards
>> Max
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
>> Karen
>> Sent: 04 November 2004 12:13
>> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>> Subject: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery
>> 
>> My database is hooked to a .mdw.  During the development stage, I want
>> to
>> open up the database and bypass this nag screen that asks for the user
>> name
>> and password.  I have been googling, but can't find too much.
>> I would like the shortcut on my desktop to do it, I think.  But at this
>> point I will do just about anything to disconnect it while I am
>> developing.
>> Thanks, wise ones.
>> --



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Nov  4 11:48:21 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 09:48:21 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B4C@infoserver01.infostat.local>

You join a workgroup, whether you realize it or not, when you open
Access or when you use the workgroup administrator to join one.  By
default, the system.mdw on the local machine is the workgroup unless you
join another one.  Using a shortcut allows you to specify the workgroup
on the server for that session without changing the default workgroup.
That should solve your problem.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholson, Karen [mailto:cyx5 at cdc.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 9:05 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op


That is what I was thinking - why put it on a user's machine?  So that
makes sense.  The backend is now in SQL and the security for the tables
is ruled by SQL.  I can put something in the start up of the app to
identify the lan user id, and if they are not in my group of users, then
out they go.

So... How does one get rid of the reference to the .mdw once one has
been established?  If I open up any Access database, this stoopid thing
runs.  On the web, it is telling me to re-install Access.  Must be a
better way.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:42 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; Nicholson, Karen
Subject: RE: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op


With no password, if you pass the user name in the command line then the
worst you'll have to do is hit enter when the password dialog appears.
Not too arduous <g>.

There is little point in having the MDW file on the user's machine. If
you needed to move them into a different user group you would have to
visit the workstation to do that. So the MDW should always be centrally
stored, available to all users.  But note, the MDW is in fact just a
plain ordinary MDB file with a different extension. As such it is
subject to all the usual corruption risks, so I should be sure to backup
the file at least once every day.

If you do get a corruption of the MDW file, usually it is enough to open
it with Access (from the File, Open menu) and run a Repair on it.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
> Sent:	Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:11 AM
> To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject:	[AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
> 
> What would you do if the PWD is null, none assigned in the .mdw?
AND...
> Is it OK to store the .mdw reference on a shared drive on the network 
> instead of on an individual PCs folder?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MG
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:27 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery
> 
> 
> Try a shortcut on your desk, (watch for word wrap) viz: "C:\Program 
> Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\MSACCESS.EXE" 
> "C:\_MCM\MCMFrontEnd.mdb"  /wrkgrp  "\\Server\svr-c\MCM\MySystem.mdw" 
> /USER max/PWD max123456789
> 
> Regards
> Max
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson, 
> Karen
> Sent: 04 November 2004 12:13
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery
> 
> My database is hooked to a .mdw.  During the development stage, I want

> to open up the database and bypass this nag screen that asks for the 
> user name
> and password.  I have been googling, but can't find too much.
> I would like the shortcut on my desktop to do it, I think.  But at
this
> point I will do just about anything to disconnect it while I am 
> developing. Thanks, wise ones.
> --
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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Thu Nov  4 12:08:43 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 13:08:43 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C34C@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

Yeppers.  I have met with management and we have decided that the custom
.mdw is outdated technology for our purposes.  YEAH!!!  Now I just have
to go point 25 users back to the system.mdw that came with their package
and not worry about it.  All the security we need is table level and I
have cranked that down on SQL server.  

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 12:48 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op


You join a workgroup, whether you realize it or not, when you open
Access or when you use the workgroup administrator to join one.  By
default, the system.mdw on the local machine is the workgroup unless you
join another one.  Using a shortcut allows you to specify the workgroup
on the server for that session without changing the default workgroup.
That should solve your problem.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholson, Karen [mailto:cyx5 at cdc.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 9:05 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op


That is what I was thinking - why put it on a user's machine?  So that
makes sense.  The backend is now in SQL and the security for the tables
is ruled by SQL.  I can put something in the start up of the app to
identify the lan user id, and if they are not in my group of users, then
out they go.

So... How does one get rid of the reference to the .mdw once one has
been established?  If I open up any Access database, this stoopid thing
runs.  On the web, it is telling me to re-install Access.  Must be a
better way.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:42 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; Nicholson, Karen
Subject: RE: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op


With no password, if you pass the user name in the command line then the
worst you'll have to do is hit enter when the password dialog appears.
Not too arduous <g>.

There is little point in having the MDW file on the user's machine. If
you needed to move them into a different user group you would have to
visit the workstation to do that. So the MDW should always be centrally
stored, available to all users.  But note, the MDW is in fact just a
plain ordinary MDB file with a different extension. As such it is
subject to all the usual corruption risks, so I should be sure to backup
the file at least once every day.

If you do get a corruption of the MDW file, usually it is enough to open
it with Access (from the File, Open menu) and run a Repair on it.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
> Sent:	Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:11 AM
> To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject:	[AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
> 
> What would you do if the PWD is null, none assigned in the .mdw?
AND...
> Is it OK to store the .mdw reference on a shared drive on the network 
> instead of on an individual PCs folder?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MG
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:27 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery
> 
> 
> Try a shortcut on your desk, (watch for word wrap) viz: "C:\Program 
> Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\MSACCESS.EXE" 
> "C:\_MCM\MCMFrontEnd.mdb"  /wrkgrp  "\\Server\svr-c\MCM\MySystem.mdw" 
> /USER max/PWD max123456789
> 
> Regards
> Max
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson, 
> Karen
> Sent: 04 November 2004 12:13
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery
> 
> My database is hooked to a .mdw.  During the development stage, I want

> to open up the database and bypass this nag screen that asks for the 
> user name
> and password.  I have been googling, but can't find too much.
> I would like the shortcut on my desktop to do it, I think.  But at
this
> point I will do just about anything to disconnect it while I am 
> developing. Thanks, wise ones.
> --
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Thu Nov  4 12:08:54 2004
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 13:08:54 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A2759@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

When you first started working with this new MDW file you must have joined
the workgroup using Wrkgadm.exe (in WINNT\SYSTEM32). All you need to do is
rejoin the default workgroup by running Wrkgadm.exe and choosing the default
MDW file in C:\WINNT\system32\system.mdw. Then Access won't ask for a
password each time you run it.

Using the shortcut that specifies the workgroup file avoids this problem
completely.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen
> Sent:	Thursday, November 04, 2004 12:05 PM
> To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject:	RE: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
> 
> That is what I was thinking - why put it on a user's machine?  So that
> makes sense.  The backend is now in SQL and the security for the tables
> is ruled by SQL.  I can put something in the start up of the app to
> identify the lan user id, and if they are not in my group of users, then
> out they go.
> 
> So... How does one get rid of the reference to the .mdw once one has
> been established?  If I open up any Access database, this stoopid thing
> runs.  On the web, it is telling me to re-install Access.  Must be a
> better way.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan,
> Lambert
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:42 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; Nicholson, Karen
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
> 
> 
> With no password, if you pass the user name in the command line then the
> worst you'll have to do is hit enter when the password dialog appears.
> Not
> too arduous <g>.
> 
> There is little point in having the MDW file on the user's machine. If
> you
> needed to move them into a different user group you would have to visit
> the
> workstation to do that. So the MDW should always be centrally stored,
> available to all users.  But note, the MDW is in fact just a plain
> ordinary
> MDB file with a different extension. As such it is subject to all the
> usual
> corruption risks, so I should be sure to backup the file at least once
> every
> day.
> 
> If you do get a corruption of the MDW file, usually it is enough to open
> it
> with Access (from the File, Open menu) and run a Repair on it.
> 
> Lambert
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
> Karen
> > Sent:	Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:11 AM
> > To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject:	[AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
> > 
> > What would you do if the PWD is null, none assigned in the .mdw?
> AND...
> > Is it OK to store the .mdw reference on a shared drive on the network
> > instead of on an individual PCs folder?
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MG
> > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:27 AM
> > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery
> > 
> > 
> > Try a shortcut on your desk, (watch for word wrap) viz:
> > "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\MSACCESS.EXE"
> > "C:\_MCM\MCMFrontEnd.mdb"  /wrkgrp  "\\Server\svr-c\MCM\MySystem.mdw"
> > /USER
> > max/PWD max123456789
> > 
> > Regards
> > Max
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
> > Karen
> > Sent: 04 November 2004 12:13
> > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery
> > 
> > My database is hooked to a .mdw.  During the development stage, I want
> > to
> > open up the database and bypass this nag screen that asks for the user
> > name
> > and password.  I have been googling, but can't find too much.
> > I would like the shortcut on my desktop to do it, I think.  But at
> this
> > point I will do just about anything to disconnect it while I am
> > developing.
> > Thanks, wise ones.
> > --
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From CMackin at quiznos.com  Thu Nov  4 12:49:00 2004
From: CMackin at quiznos.com (Mackin, Christopher)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 11:49:00 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
Message-ID: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27F0D0@snowmass.quiznos.net>

Alternatively, if you have a large group of users pointing to a particular .mdw on the network you can simply archive the current .mdw and copy your system.mdw into the network folder and rename it to match the currently used one.

That saves having to rejoin workgroups and leaves you with the option of reverting to the old security by just replacing the file.

-Chris Mackin

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:09 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'Nicholson,
Karen'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op


When you first started working with this new MDW file you must have joined
the workgroup using Wrkgadm.exe (in WINNT\SYSTEM32). All you need to do is
rejoin the default workgroup by running Wrkgadm.exe and choosing the default
MDW file in C:\WINNT\system32\system.mdw. Then Access won't ask for a
password each time you run it.

Using the shortcut that specifies the workgroup file avoids this problem
completely.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen
> Sent:	Thursday, November 04, 2004 12:05 PM
> To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject:	RE: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
> 
> That is what I was thinking - why put it on a user's machine?  So that
> makes sense.  The backend is now in SQL and the security for the tables
> is ruled by SQL.  I can put something in the start up of the app to
> identify the lan user id, and if they are not in my group of users, then
> out they go.
> 
> So... How does one get rid of the reference to the .mdw once one has
> been established?  If I open up any Access database, this stoopid thing
> runs.  On the web, it is telling me to re-install Access.  Must be a
> better way.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan,
> Lambert
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:42 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; Nicholson, Karen
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
> 
> 
> With no password, if you pass the user name in the command line then the
> worst you'll have to do is hit enter when the password dialog appears.
> Not
> too arduous <g>.
> 
> There is little point in having the MDW file on the user's machine. If
> you
> needed to move them into a different user group you would have to visit
> the
> workstation to do that. So the MDW should always be centrally stored,
> available to all users.  But note, the MDW is in fact just a plain
> ordinary
> MDB file with a different extension. As such it is subject to all the
> usual
> corruption risks, so I should be sure to backup the file at least once
> every
> day.
> 
> If you do get a corruption of the MDW file, usually it is enough to open
> it
> with Access (from the File, Open menu) and run a Repair on it.
> 
> Lambert
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
> Karen
> > Sent:	Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:11 AM
> > To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject:	[AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
> > 
> > What would you do if the PWD is null, none assigned in the .mdw?
> AND...
> > Is it OK to store the .mdw reference on a shared drive on the network
> > instead of on an individual PCs folder?
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MG
> > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:27 AM
> > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery
> > 
> > 
> > Try a shortcut on your desk, (watch for word wrap) viz:
> > "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\MSACCESS.EXE"
> > "C:\_MCM\MCMFrontEnd.mdb"  /wrkgrp  "\\Server\svr-c\MCM\MySystem.mdw"
> > /USER
> > max/PWD max123456789
> > 
> > Regards
> > Max
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
> > Karen
> > Sent: 04 November 2004 12:13
> > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery
> > 
> > My database is hooked to a .mdw.  During the development stage, I want
> > to
> > open up the database and bypass this nag screen that asks for the user
> > name
> > and password.  I have been googling, but can't find too much.
> > I would like the shortcut on my desktop to do it, I think.  But at
> this
> > point I will do just about anything to disconnect it while I am
> > developing.
> > Thanks, wise ones.
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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Thu Nov  4 12:54:11 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 12:54:11 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
In-Reply-To: <200411041800.iA4I0tL32297@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041104125319.04d3fea0@pop3.highstream.net>

Lonnie

I think CTRL-P will do it for you.

Robert

At 12:00 PM 11/4/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>   From: Lonnie Johnson
>   To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu' ; AccessDevelopers ; ms_access ; 
> AccessD solving'
>   Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 7:10 AM
>   Subject: [AccessD] Calling all Gurus - Hide Access Window
>
>
>   Hello all,
>
>   I am using the popular API code that hides the access window and just 
> shows a form on the desktop. (Small snippet below)
>
>   Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As 
> Long) As Long
>   Dim dwReturn As Long
>   Const SW_HIDE = 0
>   Const SW_SHOWNORMAL = 1
>   Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED = 2....
>
>   It is working fine except withe reports. I am even able to preview 
> reports. However, how do I print them? Has anyone worked this part out?
>
>   I know there is an answer out there somewhere!
>
>   Thanks in advance.




From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Thu Nov  4 13:27:03 2004
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 14:27:03 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F84@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Arthur,

I was not expecting the database to act intelligently. To be honest I was
not expecting there to even be a solution to this although Gustav figured it
out!

I have an Access database that I used to keep track of the computers at my
company. The computer naming convention that I use is TNCO###. One of the
fields in the table is used for storing the computer name. If I remove a
computer from our network and physical remove it from the company, I would
like to be able to reuse that computer name instead of just using the next
sequential number. To me I do not see it as concatenating two column values
into one but I could be wrong. What do you think Arthur?

JR

-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 4:44 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL

Joe Rojas wrote:

>Hi All,
>If I have data similar to:
>JOE001
>JOE002
>JOE003
>JOE005
>JOE006
>
>Is there a way, using just SQL, to return the next available number in the
>sequence, JOE004, and be flexible enough to return JOE007 if JOE004 had
>already existed?
>Or do I have to use code to iterate through the records to check for
>"holes"?
>
>Thanks!
>JR
>
>
>
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IMHO something is wrong with this design. You are packing two columns
into one and expecting the database to act intelligently: unfair. If you
really need this column, consider adding two more columns, one with each
fragment and then concatenating the result in the column you have. The
problem becomes much simpler with this approach.

But back to the start. Why are you concatenating two column values into one?

A.
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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Thu Nov  4 13:33:17 2004
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 14:33:17 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F85@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Wow! Thanks Gustav! Great SQL!

JR

-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 4:52 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL

Hi Joe

> If I have data similar to:
> JOE001
> JOE002
> JOE003
> JOE005
> JOE006

> Is there a way, using just SQL, to return the next available number in the
> sequence, JOE004, and be flexible enough to return JOE007 if JOE004 had
> already existed?
> Or do I have to use code to iterate through the records to check for
> "holes"?

Except for the indication of some malfunctioning during the design
state as already pointed out by others, there is:

<SQL>

  SELECT TOP 1
    TextID,
    Left(TextID, Len(TextID)-3) &
      Right(String(3,"0") & Right(TextID,3)+1,3) AS NextID
  FROM
    tblID
  WHERE
    (Nz(
      (Select Top 1
        Val(Right(TextID,3))
      From
        tblID As T
      Where
        T.TextID > tblID.TextID)
      -Val(Right([TextID],3)),
    2)>1)
  ORDER BY
    tblID.TextID;

</SQL>

All the "3"s count for the length of the numeric right part of the
textid.
Note the "magic 2" in Nz() which cares for the return of the last
textid if no "holes" exist.

/gustav

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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Thu Nov  4 13:37:50 2004
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 19:37:50 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
Message-ID: <BAY101-F26VuMhvqgSt0001e477@hotmail.com>

I also was impressed...and from looking at it...you could use the same 
concept to fill in missing dates in a given date range.

Thanks for the direction.

Mark A. Matte

>From: "Andy Lacey" <andy at minstersystems.co.uk>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
>Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 15:21:01 +0100
>
>I get it, but I wouldn't have dreamed that up in a million years. Hats off
>to you Gustav.
>
>--
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>http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>
>
>
>--------- Original Message --------
>From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
>Date: 04/11/04 14:49
>
> >
> > Hi Andy, Mark and A.D
> >
> > &gt; Gustav, I'm in awe!!! But I don't fully understand how it works. 
>What
>does
> > &gt; the:
> >
> > &gt; Nz((Select Top 1 Val(Right(TextID,3))
> >
> > &gt; return, and how does checking it being &gt;1 spot the gaps?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > It uses the numeric part of Joe's textid to find the next higher id
> > and the difference between these. This difference is, of course, 1
> > where no holes exist. If a hole is present, the difference will be 2
> > or larger.
> > However, if no holes are present, no difference is found and it is
> > Null and the expression with (Select ..)-Val(..) will be Null as well.
> > This is caught by Nz() here:
> >
> >   Nz((Select ..)-Val(Right([TextID],3)),2)
> >
> > which returns 2 for the &quot;missing&quot; hole at the last textid.
> > Finally textid is sorted and Top 1 is added to find the first hole
> > and only this.
> >
> > /gustav
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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Thu Nov  4 14:15:56 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 15:15:56 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C357@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

Not so lucky; the .mdw is on the workstations, buried.  Life is getting
easier, though.  I have the front end updater working and it is like a
birthday party for them!

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mackin,
Christopher
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 1:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op


Alternatively, if you have a large group of users pointing to a
particular .mdw on the network you can simply archive the current .mdw
and copy your system.mdw into the network folder and rename it to match
the currently used one.

That saves having to rejoin workgroups and leaves you with the option of
reverting to the old security by just replacing the file.

-Chris Mackin

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:09 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'Nicholson,
Karen'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op


When you first started working with this new MDW file you must have
joined
the workgroup using Wrkgadm.exe (in WINNT\SYSTEM32). All you need to do
is
rejoin the default workgroup by running Wrkgadm.exe and choosing the
default
MDW file in C:\WINNT\system32\system.mdw. Then Access won't ask for a
password each time you run it.

Using the shortcut that specifies the workgroup file avoids this problem
completely.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
> Sent:	Thursday, November 04, 2004 12:05 PM
> To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject:	RE: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
> 
> That is what I was thinking - why put it on a user's machine?  So that
> makes sense.  The backend is now in SQL and the security for the
tables
> is ruled by SQL.  I can put something in the start up of the app to
> identify the lan user id, and if they are not in my group of users,
then
> out they go.
> 
> So... How does one get rid of the reference to the .mdw once one has
> been established?  If I open up any Access database, this stoopid
thing
> runs.  On the web, it is telling me to re-install Access.  Must be a
> better way.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan,
> Lambert
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:42 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; Nicholson,
Karen
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
> 
> 
> With no password, if you pass the user name in the command line then
the
> worst you'll have to do is hit enter when the password dialog appears.
> Not
> too arduous <g>.
> 
> There is little point in having the MDW file on the user's machine. If
> you
> needed to move them into a different user group you would have to
visit
> the
> workstation to do that. So the MDW should always be centrally stored,
> available to all users.  But note, the MDW is in fact just a plain
> ordinary
> MDB file with a different extension. As such it is subject to all the
> usual
> corruption risks, so I should be sure to backup the file at least once
> every
> day.
> 
> If you do get a corruption of the MDW file, usually it is enough to
open
> it
> with Access (from the File, Open menu) and run a Repair on it.
> 
> Lambert
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
> Karen
> > Sent:	Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:11 AM
> > To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject:	[AccessD] MDW ByPass Surgery, Post Op
> > 
> > What would you do if the PWD is null, none assigned in the .mdw?
> AND...
> > Is it OK to store the .mdw reference on a shared drive on the
network
> > instead of on an individual PCs folder?
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MG
> > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:27 AM
> > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery
> > 
> > 
> > Try a shortcut on your desk, (watch for word wrap) viz:
> > "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\MSACCESS.EXE"
> > "C:\_MCM\MCMFrontEnd.mdb"  /wrkgrp
"\\Server\svr-c\MCM\MySystem.mdw"
> > /USER
> > max/PWD max123456789
> > 
> > Regards
> > Max
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Nicholson,
> > Karen
> > Sent: 04 November 2004 12:13
> > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] .MDW ByPass Surgery
> > 
> > My database is hooked to a .mdw.  During the development stage, I
want
> > to
> > open up the database and bypass this nag screen that asks for the
user
> > name
> > and password.  I have been googling, but can't find too much.
> > I would like the shortcut on my desktop to do it, I think.  But at
> this
> > point I will do just about anything to disconnect it while I am
> > developing.
> > Thanks, wise ones.
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Thu Nov  4 16:23:21 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 09:23:21 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?
Message-ID: <001a01c4c2bc$e524a240$6401a8c0@user>

Hoping someone can shed some light here....

A client using Windows 2000 Pro and Access 2000 has been using an mdb written in Access 2000 for several years. But this week when I installed an upgrade (same platform), the Date() functions throw errors, as do the Format() functions.

They have a critical error at the moment caused by Date() notworking which I need to fix today. I know I could modify these functions to use, eg. Now(), but is this a MDAC problem? Mine is MDAC 2.7 on Windows XP SP1. 

If I asked my client to download MDAC 2.8 (which I see is the latest) - is this going to solve the problem?

I do not understand how this upgrade could possible have afftected the use of these functions??

Thanks

Kath


From john at winhaven.net  Thu Nov  4 16:25:57 2004
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 16:25:57 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Form creep bug
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C357@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKIIECEGCAA.john@winhaven.net>

Does anyone remember any details about the bug that makes access forms creep
a little bit to to the side of the screen until the close button is hidden?
Was that Access or some form resizer control/method or what?

John B.




From CMackin at quiznos.com  Thu Nov  4 16:29:43 2004
From: CMackin at quiznos.com (Mackin, Christopher)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 15:29:43 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?
Message-ID: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27F0D6@snowmass.quiznos.net>

I would rule out a missing reference issue first, but if that's not the case then it could be an MDAC issue, I've had that in the past, but a few years ago, I believe it was MDAC 2.5 or 2.6 that was problematic.

-Chris Mackin

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 3:23 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


Hoping someone can shed some light here....

A client using Windows 2000 Pro and Access 2000 has been using an mdb written in Access 2000 for several years. But this week when I installed an upgrade (same platform), the Date() functions throw errors, as do the Format() functions.

They have a critical error at the moment caused by Date() notworking which I need to fix today. I know I could modify these functions to use, eg. Now(), but is this a MDAC problem? Mine is MDAC 2.7 on Windows XP SP1. 

If I asked my client to download MDAC 2.8 (which I see is the latest) - is this going to solve the problem?

I do not understand how this upgrade could possible have afftected the use of these functions??

Thanks

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From KP at sdsonline.net  Thu Nov  4 16:36:58 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 09:36:58 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?
References: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27F0D6@snowmass.quiznos.net>
Message-ID: <003301c4c2be$cbccade0$6401a8c0@user>

Chris - I checked the references on site and found none missing...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mackin, Christopher 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 9:29 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


  I would rule out a missing reference issue first, but if that's not the case then it could be an MDAC issue, I've had that in the past, but a few years ago, I believe it was MDAC 2.5 or 2.6 that was problematic.

  -Chris Mackin

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  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 3:23 PM
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
  Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


  Hoping someone can shed some light here....

  A client using Windows 2000 Pro and Access 2000 has been using an mdb written in Access 2000 for several years. But this week when I installed an upgrade (same platform), the Date() functions throw errors, as do the Format() functions.

  They have a critical error at the moment caused by Date() notworking which I need to fix today. I know I could modify these functions to use, eg. Now(), but is this a MDAC problem? Mine is MDAC 2.7 on Windows XP SP1. 

  If I asked my client to download MDAC 2.8 (which I see is the latest) - is this going to solve the problem?

  I do not understand how this upgrade could possible have afftected the use of these functions??

  Thanks

  Kath
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Thu Nov  4 16:45:26 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 09:45:26 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?
References: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27F0D6@snowmass.quiznos.net>
	<003301c4c2be$cbccade0$6401a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <00ac01c4c2c0$ae799710$6401a8c0@user>

I have found that there is a difference in the order of the DAO / ADO references....

The reference to DAO in the latest release is above the ADO reference.

Could this throw the error with Date()?

Kath

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kath Pelletti 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 9:36 AM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


  Chris - I checked the references on site and found none missing...
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Mackin, Christopher 
    To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
    Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 9:29 AM
    Subject: RE: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


    I would rule out a missing reference issue first, but if that's not the case then it could be an MDAC issue, I've had that in the past, but a few years ago, I believe it was MDAC 2.5 or 2.6 that was problematic.

    -Chris Mackin

    -----Original Message-----
    From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
    [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
    Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 3:23 PM
    To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
    Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


    Hoping someone can shed some light here....

    A client using Windows 2000 Pro and Access 2000 has been using an mdb written in Access 2000 for several years. But this week when I installed an upgrade (same platform), the Date() functions throw errors, as do the Format() functions.

    They have a critical error at the moment caused by Date() notworking which I need to fix today. I know I could modify these functions to use, eg. Now(), but is this a MDAC problem? Mine is MDAC 2.7 on Windows XP SP1. 

    If I asked my client to download MDAC 2.8 (which I see is the latest) - is this going to solve the problem?

    I do not understand how this upgrade could possible have afftected the use of these functions??

    Thanks

    Kath
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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Thu Nov  4 16:51:15 2004
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 14:51:15 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] A2K, Export to Excel
Message-ID: <b874372a041104145114a01aa2@mail.gmail.com>

A friend has a query, and is exporting the results to an excel file,
for some reason the numeric (dollar) values are converted to string in
excel (the single ' quote problem) it's easy enough to convert excel
to see it as a numeric but why?

thanks,
-- 
-Francisco
<a href="http://pcthis.blogspot.com">Pc This! pc news with out the jargon</a>


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Nov  4 17:04:58 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 09:04:58 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
In-Reply-To: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F84@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <418B423A.16918.18E65D38@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 4 Nov 2004 at 14:27, Joe Rojas wrote:

> Arthur,
> 
> I was not expecting the database to act intelligently. To be honest I was
> not expecting there to even be a solution to this although Gustav figured it
> out!
> 
> I have an Access database that I used to keep track of the computers at my
> company. The computer naming convention that I use is TNCO###. One of the
> fields in the table is used for storing the computer name. If I remove a
> computer from our network and physical remove it from the company, I would
> like to be able to reuse that computer name instead of just using the next
> sequential number. To me I do not see it as concatenating two column values
> into one but I could be wrong. What do you think Arthur?
> 

If you *always* use the same initial characters, you could just store the 
numeric value in the table and display them formatted as "TNCO"000  

-- 
Stuart




From dwaters at usinternet.com  Thu Nov  4 18:13:37 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 18:13:37 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?
In-Reply-To: <8246256.1099611287819.JavaMail.root@sniper11.usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <000601c4c2cc$4c4ae470$de1811d8@danwaters>

Kath,

A few years ago I noticed this problem on a few computers, and it was a
sporadic problem.  To get around it I put the following in a standard
module:

Public Function CurrentDate() As Date

    CurrentDate = CDate(DatePart("m", Now()) & "/" & DatePart("d", Now()) _
	& "/" & DatePart("yyyy", Now()))

    Exit Function

End Function

Now whenever I need the current date I just write:  txtDate = CurrentDate

No problems for several years now!

Dan Waters
ProMation Systems

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 4:23 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?

Hoping someone can shed some light here....

A client using Windows 2000 Pro and Access 2000 has been using an mdb
written in Access 2000 for several years. But this week when I installed an
upgrade (same platform), the Date() functions throw errors, as do the
Format() functions.

They have a critical error at the moment caused by Date() notworking which I
need to fix today. I know I could modify these functions to use, eg. Now(),
but is this a MDAC problem? Mine is MDAC 2.7 on Windows XP SP1. 

If I asked my client to download MDAC 2.8 (which I see is the latest) - is
this going to solve the problem?

I do not understand how this upgrade could possible have afftected the use
of these functions??

Thanks

Kath
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Thu Nov  4 18:14:47 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 11:14:47 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] MDAC - more
Message-ID: <017101c4c2cc$75fbf520$6401a8c0@user>

Gurus - further to my client who has format() and date() no longer working - he is on Windows 2KPro, with Access 2000.

I got him to run the MDAC component checker from Microsoft and it came up with MDAC version 2.5 sp 2.0.

My next step would be to ask him to update his MDAC to the 2.8 version - before I do that - are there any possible disadvantages??

Thanks

Kath



From KP at sdsonline.net  Thu Nov  4 18:23:30 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 11:23:30 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?
References: <000601c4c2cc$4c4ae470$de1811d8@danwaters>
Message-ID: <017d01c4c2cd$ad8b5390$6401a8c0@user>

That seems wise Dan - I haven't had this issue since Win98 users experienced same problem. And I am absolutely stumped how a PC which has had no changes to the OS or applications can suddenly get errors when I install a new mdb. In other words, last week their previous version of the same mdb gave them no errors with these same functions. Suddenly they start appearing and cause a critical process to fall over.

I think that I will pull out all references to Date() and use of Format() functions - but that's tricky to do today.

Kath

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dan Waters 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 11:13 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


  Kath,

  A few years ago I noticed this problem on a few computers, and it was a
  sporadic problem.  To get around it I put the following in a standard
  module:

  Public Function CurrentDate() As Date

      CurrentDate = CDate(DatePart("m", Now()) & "/" & DatePart("d", Now()) _
  & "/" & DatePart("yyyy", Now()))

      Exit Function

  End Function

  Now whenever I need the current date I just write:  txtDate = CurrentDate

  No problems for several years now!

  Dan Waters
  ProMation Systems

  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 4:23 PM
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
  Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?

  Hoping someone can shed some light here....

  A client using Windows 2000 Pro and Access 2000 has been using an mdb
  written in Access 2000 for several years. But this week when I installed an
  upgrade (same platform), the Date() functions throw errors, as do the
  Format() functions.

  They have a critical error at the moment caused by Date() notworking which I
  need to fix today. I know I could modify these functions to use, eg. Now(),
  but is this a MDAC problem? Mine is MDAC 2.7 on Windows XP SP1. 

  If I asked my client to download MDAC 2.8 (which I see is the latest) - is
  this going to solve the problem?

  I do not understand how this upgrade could possible have afftected the use
  of these functions??

  Thanks

  Kath
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Thu Nov  4 18:24:57 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 11:24:57 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Can't delete or change missing references
References: <20041102201001.60145.qmail@web20424.mail.yahoo.com><001a01c4c221$c14f3740$6401a8c0@user>
	<03e601c4c225$2eed7930$6401a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <018701c4c2cd$e168c300$6401a8c0@user>

Michael - thanks for this by the way - no luck there either. Even when I delete the form and all code referring to Frontpage I am still unable to remove or change those missing references. 

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Michael R Mattys 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 3:17 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Online Access groups


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Kath Pelletti" <KP at sdsonline.net>
  To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
  <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
  Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:52 PM
  Subject: [AccessD] OT: Online Access groups


  Lonnie - just a quick OT - I notice that your post also went to other Access
  groups - do you find them as useful as AccessD?

  Kath
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Lonnie Johnson
    To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu' ; AccessDevelopers ; ms_access ;
  AccessD solving'


  Now hold on there, Kath, let's see ... um, hm ... try this:

  Application.SaveAsText acForm, "FormName", "DesiredPath"

  I'm thinking that if there's a FrontPage control on this form that
  you can just delete it from the text file, delete the form, remove the
  bad ref, and then import that file right back in as a form.

  ----

  Michael R. Mattys
  Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
  http://www.mattysconsulting.com

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From mastercafe at ctv.es  Thu Nov  4 20:06:15 2004
From: mastercafe at ctv.es (MastercafeCTV)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 03:06:15 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2k on W2k vs A2k on WinXP
In-Reply-To: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F85@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <003401c4c2dc$17f03b70$0500a8c0@masterserv>

We install on one computer this week WinXP with Office XP dev. Ed
On some application we discover that if we open and run we can't modify
anything this only occur on WinXP same process on Win2k Access permit to us
modify and save without problem.
We try to make some changes before run the application and this is ok, and
run Swichtboard only and run OK, but if we execute a simple query opening
and writing over this application (any table) then we can't do changes.

Why? Why Win2k permit to do this and WinXP not??

Thanks for any ideas


Juan



From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Nov  4 19:55:38 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 12:55:38 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Speed up access over a network
Message-ID: <200411050155.iA51tmXH015988@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hello all
I realise the q is very broad and has a million possible suggestions
That's what I'm after
 
I have a client who I am developing an app for. So far they are very
pleased.
But just the other day....They now want to be able to use the app 
after hours at home on their laptops. (And they are prepared to pay for this
major re-direction)
 
So this means connecting (in some cases) to the back end using dial up
<Sheesh>
 
Am I in the wrong business here?
 
Is this time to migrate the App to be browser based? (Which I know nothing
about by the way)
 
If you guys have successfully got your Access Apps to work at any decent
sort of speed
over dial up can you let me know how??
 
Many thanks
 
Darren
 


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Nov  4 20:36:31 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 12:36:31 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Speed up access over a network
In-Reply-To: <200411050155.iA51tmXH015988@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <418B73CF.28101.19A80AB3@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 5 Nov 2004 at 12:55, Darren DICK wrote:

> Hello all
> I realise the q is very broad and has a million possible suggestions
> That's what I'm after
>  
> I have a client who I am developing an app for. So far they are very
> pleased.
> But just the other day....They now want to be able to use the app 
> after hours at home on their laptops. (And they are prepared to pay for this
> major re-direction)
>  
> So this means connecting (in some cases) to the back end using dial up
> <Sheesh>
>  
> Am I in the wrong business here?
>  
> Is this time to migrate the App to be browser based? (Which I know nothing
> about by the way)
>  
> If you guys have successfully got your Access Apps to work at any decent
> sort of speed
> over dial up can you let me know how??
>  

One option is to set up Terminal Server in the workplace and have them 
connect using a Terminal Services client.  

See http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/demos/mod09.htm for quite a good 
demo.



-- 
Stuart




From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Nov  4 20:54:42 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 18:54:42 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Can't delete or change missing references
References: <20041102201001.60145.qmail@web20424.mail.yahoo.com>
	<001a01c4c221$c14f3740$6401a8c0@user>
	<03e601c4c225$2eed7930$6401a8c0@default>
	<018701c4c2cd$e168c300$6401a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <418AEB72.8020702@shaw.ca>

Try some variation of this code to remove reference

It tests for broken reference lists by name and path to dll etc.
If broken removes reference
or use commented out code to delete by name

Sub RemoveBrokenReferences()
Dim refCurr As Reference
Dim intLoop As Integer

   For intLoop = References.Count To 1 Step -1
      Set refCurr = References(intLoop)
      Debug.Print References.Item(intLoop).Name & " - " & 
References.Item(intLoop).FullPath
     
      If refCurr.IsBroken = True Then
         References.Remove refCurr
      End If
    'example forcibly remove DAO reference by name if cannot err 3109
    'DAO - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\DAO\dao350.dll
   ' If References.Item(intLoop).Name = "DAO" Then
   '     References.Remove refCurr
   ' End If
   Next intLoop

End Sub

Kath Pelletti wrote:

>Michael - thanks for this by the way - no luck there either. Even when I delete the form and all code referring to Frontpage I am still unable to remove or change those missing references. 
>
>Kath
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Michael R Mattys 
>  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
>  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 3:17 PM
>  Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Online Access groups
>
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: "Kath Pelletti" <KP at sdsonline.net>
>  To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>  <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>  Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:52 PM
>  Subject: [AccessD] OT: Online Access groups
>
>
>  Lonnie - just a quick OT - I notice that your post also went to other Access
>  groups - do you find them as useful as AccessD?
>
>  Kath
>    ----- Original Message ----- 
>    From: Lonnie Johnson
>    To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu' ; AccessDevelopers ; ms_access ;
>  AccessD solving'
>
>
>  Now hold on there, Kath, let's see ... um, hm ... try this:
>
>  Application.SaveAsText acForm, "FormName", "DesiredPath"
>
>  I'm thinking that if there's a FrontPage control on this form that
>  you can just delete it from the text file, delete the form, remove the
>  bad ref, and then import that file right back in as a form.
>
>  ----
>
>  Michael R. Mattys
>  Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
>  http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>  -- 
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>  AccessD mailing list
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>  Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From KP at sdsonline.net  Thu Nov  4 21:24:23 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 14:24:23 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Can't delete or change missing references
References: <20041102201001.60145.qmail@web20424.mail.yahoo.com><001a01c4c221$c14f3740$6401a8c0@user><03e601c4c225$2eed7930$6401a8c0@default><018701c4c2cd$e168c300$6401a8c0@user>
	<418AEB72.8020702@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <000f01c4c2e6$f31f5500$6401a8c0@user>

Thanks Marty - I will try to use this......for the moment I can't even *type* or copy/paste into the vbe window - when I try to do so, I get error 'Error in loading dll'.

aaarrrgh....

I've tried a reset but it makes no difference. 
Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: MartyConnelly 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 1:54 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Can't delete or change missing references


  Try some variation of this code to remove reference

  It tests for broken reference lists by name and path to dll etc.
  If broken removes reference
  or use commented out code to delete by name

  Sub RemoveBrokenReferences()
  Dim refCurr As Reference
  Dim intLoop As Integer

     For intLoop = References.Count To 1 Step -1
        Set refCurr = References(intLoop)
        Debug.Print References.Item(intLoop).Name & " - " & 
  References.Item(intLoop).FullPath
       
        If refCurr.IsBroken = True Then
           References.Remove refCurr
        End If
      'example forcibly remove DAO reference by name if cannot err 3109
      'DAO - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\DAO\dao350.dll
     ' If References.Item(intLoop).Name = "DAO" Then
     '     References.Remove refCurr
     ' End If
     Next intLoop

  End Sub

  Kath Pelletti wrote:

  >Michael - thanks for this by the way - no luck there either. Even when I delete the form and all code referring to Frontpage I am still unable to remove or change those missing references. 
  >
  >Kath
  >  ----- Original Message ----- 
  >  From: Michael R Mattys 
  >  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  >  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 3:17 PM
  >  Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Online Access groups
  >
  >
  >  ----- Original Message ----- 
  >  From: "Kath Pelletti" <KP at sdsonline.net>
  >  To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
  >  <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
  >  Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:52 PM
  >  Subject: [AccessD] OT: Online Access groups
  >
  >
  >  Lonnie - just a quick OT - I notice that your post also went to other Access
  >  groups - do you find them as useful as AccessD?
  >
  >  Kath
  >    ----- Original Message ----- 
  >    From: Lonnie Johnson
  >    To: 'MS-ACCESS-L at lists.missouri.edu' ; AccessDevelopers ; ms_access ;
  >  AccessD solving'
  >
  >
  >  Now hold on there, Kath, let's see ... um, hm ... try this:
  >
  >  Application.SaveAsText acForm, "FormName", "DesiredPath"
  >
  >  I'm thinking that if there's a FrontPage control on this form that
  >  you can just delete it from the text file, delete the form, remove the
  >  bad ref, and then import that file right back in as a form.
  >
  >  ----
  >
  >  Michael R. Mattys
  >  Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
  >  http://www.mattysconsulting.com
  >
  >  -- 
  >  _______________________________________________
  >  AccessD mailing list
  >  AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
  >  http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
  >  Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
  >  
  >

  -- 
  Marty Connelly
  Victoria, B.C.
  Canada



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From KP at sdsonline.net  Thu Nov  4 21:26:46 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 14:26:46 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?
References: <000601c4c2cc$4c4ae470$de1811d8@danwaters>
Message-ID: <002101c4c2e7$47558f40$6401a8c0@user>

For now I have got client back online - I was able to remote access the PC, remove the references to DAO and ADO, save, reopen the refs window, select the DAO and ADO again (in that order) and recompile. That seems to have the date() function back for them again. Strangely though, there are still a few errors with format().

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dan Waters 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 11:13 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


  Kath,

  A few years ago I noticed this problem on a few computers, and it was a
  sporadic problem.  To get around it I put the following in a standard
  module:

  Public Function CurrentDate() As Date

      CurrentDate = CDate(DatePart("m", Now()) & "/" & DatePart("d", Now()) _
  & "/" & DatePart("yyyy", Now()))

      Exit Function

  End Function

  Now whenever I need the current date I just write:  txtDate = CurrentDate

  No problems for several years now!

  Dan Waters
  ProMation Systems

  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 4:23 PM
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
  Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?

  Hoping someone can shed some light here....

  A client using Windows 2000 Pro and Access 2000 has been using an mdb
  written in Access 2000 for several years. But this week when I installed an
  upgrade (same platform), the Date() functions throw errors, as do the
  Format() functions.

  They have a critical error at the moment caused by Date() notworking which I
  need to fix today. I know I could modify these functions to use, eg. Now(),
  but is this a MDAC problem? Mine is MDAC 2.7 on Windows XP SP1. 

  If I asked my client to download MDAC 2.8 (which I see is the latest) - is
  this going to solve the problem?

  I do not understand how this upgrade could possible have afftected the use
  of these functions??

  Thanks

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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Nov  4 21:30:06 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 14:30:06 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Speed up access over a network
In-Reply-To: <418B73CF.28101.19A80AB3@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <200411050330.iA53UHXH009824@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Outstanding
This allows me to continue in Access and VB

Where do I set all this stuff up (Actually How is a better question:-)) 

Calling all Terminal Server gurus

Many thanks Stuart

Darren




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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Friday, 5 November 2004 1:37 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Speed up access over a network

On 5 Nov 2004 at 12:55, Darren DICK wrote:

> Hello all
> I realise the q is very broad and has a million possible suggestions 
> That's what I'm after
>  
> I have a client who I am developing an app for. So far they are very 
> pleased.
> But just the other day....They now want to be able to use the app 
> after hours at home on their laptops. (And they are prepared to pay 
> for this major re-direction)
>  
> So this means connecting (in some cases) to the back end using dial up 
> <Sheesh>
>  
> Am I in the wrong business here?
>  
> Is this time to migrate the App to be browser based? (Which I know 
> nothing about by the way)
>  
> If you guys have successfully got your Access Apps to work at any 
> decent sort of speed over dial up can you let me know how??
>  

One option is to set up Terminal Server in the workplace and have them 
connect using a Terminal Services client.  

See http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/demos/mod09.htm for quite a good 
demo.



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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Nov  4 22:09:32 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 23:09:32 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2k on W2k vs A2k on WinXP
In-Reply-To: <003401c4c2dc$17f03b70$0500a8c0@masterserv>
Message-ID: <001a01c4c2ed$40e1bcf0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

I have seen this and it was a security issue, user rights to the directory.
Apparently Windows XP adds some stuff in this regard that Win2K didn't care
about.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 9:06 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] A2k on W2k vs A2k on WinXP


We install on one computer this week WinXP with Office XP dev. Ed On some
application we discover that if we open and run we can't modify anything
this only occur on WinXP same process on Win2k Access permit to us modify
and save without problem. We try to make some changes before run the
application and this is ok, and run Swichtboard only and run OK, but if we
execute a simple query opening and writing over this application (any table)
then we can't do changes.

Why? Why Win2k permit to do this and WinXP not??

Thanks for any ideas


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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Nov  4 22:30:51 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 15:30:51 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Make Some pages in a Tab Control Enabled and some not
Message-ID: <200411050431.iA54V1XH004318@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hello all
Under certain circumstances I want the user to go to a form "frmPreferences"
that has a Tab Control on it called  "tabMain"
 
How can I (from the error trapping of another form)  spark up the form that
has the tabControl on
it (That bit I can do) and then make certain tabs enabled or visible on that
tab control?
 
Many thanks in advance
 
Darren
 


From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Nov  4 22:51:41 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 15:51:41 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Make Some pages in a Tab Control Enabled and some
	not(Solved)
Message-ID: <200411050451.iA54pqXH022864@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Never mind 
I figured out one way to do it
 
    If Err.Number = 76 Then
    MsgBox "message about invalid path get 'em to reset paths then fire up
the preferences form", vbCritical, "Unable to copy Offline Data File"
        
        DoCmd.OpenForm "frmPreferences"
        Forms!frmPreferences.TabBlank.SetFocus
        
        With Forms!frmPreferences
            For Each ctl In Forms!frmPreferences.Controls
                If ctl.Tag = 1 Then
                    ctl.Enabled = False
                End If
            Next
        End With
        
        Forms!frmPreferences.pgOffline.SetFocus
    Else
        MsgBox Err.Number & "  " & Err.Description, vbCritical, "Error in
fExit module"
    End If



From pcs at azizaz.com  Fri Nov  5 01:21:48 2004
From: pcs at azizaz.com (Borge Steen Hansen)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 17:21:48 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:BackEnd Upgrader
References: <200411050451.iA54pqXH022864@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <026101c4c308$1fdeb420$fa10a8c0@Albatross>

I've downloaded the BEUp.mdb from http://www.databaseadvisors.com
A few questions:
Is 16 June 2002 the latest revision?
Has any work been done on the BEup to accommodate more than one backend?
Who best to contact with any specific questions or suggestions?

Regards
Borge Hansen


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From pedro at plex.nl  Fri Nov  5 10:26:22 2004
From: pedro at plex.nl (pedro at plex.nl)
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 10:26:22 (MET)
Subject: [AccessD] how to do this?
Message-ID: <200411050926.iA59QM8s014181@mailhostC.plex.net>

Hello Group,

What is the best way to do the following routine?

I have a form with a field: [ArticleNumber]. I am scanning a barcode and the Article Number is placed in the field. When the Article number is placed this number must be processed as Follows; (in the table behind the form is also a field: [Quantity]) the value of [Quantity] must be decreased with 1. When the amount of [Quantity] reaches a certain minimum a message box must appear.

How can this been done.

Thanks

Pedro Janssen 




From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Nov  5 04:03:23 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 11:03:23 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Speed up access over a network
In-Reply-To: <200411050330.iA53UHXH009824@cooper.uws.edu.au>
References: <200411050330.iA53UHXH009824@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <968427978.20041105110323@cactus.dk>

Hi Darren

Unless you would love to handle this and don't have better things to
do, contract with a specialist.
There are a lot of small dos and don'ts regarding rights, login,
printers (remote print) which are not that simple.

However, when up and running it's a nice solution. Do check the
licensing scheme, though, as this is a mix of server license, user
licenses and terminal service user licenses.

One thing to insist on is to have a separate server for this. Don't
mix it with file/print etc. not to mention an Exchange animal.

/gustav


> Outstanding
> This allows me to continue in Access and VB

> Where do I set all this stuff up (Actually How is a better question:-)) 

> Calling all Terminal Server gurus

> Many thanks Stuart

> Darren



From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Fri Nov  5 04:34:19 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 05:34:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:BackEnd Upgrader
In-Reply-To: <026101c4c308$1fdeb420$fa10a8c0@Albatross>
Message-ID: <418B10DB.28934.1BFDB1@localhost>

On 5 Nov 2004 at 17:21, Borge Steen Hansen wrote:

> I've downloaded the BEUp.mdb from http://www.databaseadvisors.com A
> few questions: Is 16 June 2002 the latest revision? Has any work been

Which version is that? Check the About form.

> done on the BEup to accommodate more than one backend? Who best to

None that I am aware of

> contact with any specific questions or suggestions?

You can ask here, since all the developers hang out here (Andy, 
Reuben and myself), but it may get missed or you can e-mail beu-
support at databaseadvisors.com and get
at the developers directly.

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From pcs at azizaz.com  Fri Nov  5 05:30:59 2004
From: pcs at azizaz.com (Borge Hansen)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 21:30:59 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:BackEnd Upgrader
References: <418B10DB.28934.1BFDB1@localhost>
Message-ID: <026d01c4c32a$ef52f2d0$fa10a8c0@Albatross>

The About Form says : Version 1.58

Latest One??

Regards
Borge Hansen


> On 5 Nov 2004 at 17:21, Borge Steen Hansen wrote:
>
> > I've downloaded the BEUp.mdb from http://www.databaseadvisors.com A
> > few questions: Is 16 June 2002 the latest revision?
>
> Which version is that? Check the About form.
>
> > Has any work beendone on the BEup to accommodate more than one backend?
>
> None that I am aware of
>
> > Who best to contact with any specific questions or suggestions?
>
> You can ask here, since all the developers hang out here (Andy,
> Reuben and myself), but it may get missed or you can e-mail beu-
> support at databaseadvisors.com and get
> at the developers directly.
>
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From Helmut.E.Kotsch at t-online.de  Fri Nov  5 06:29:50 2004
From: Helmut.E.Kotsch at t-online.de (Helmut Kotsch)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 13:29:50 +0100
Subject: AW: [AccessD] A2K: Speed up access over a network
In-Reply-To: <418B73CF.28101.19A80AB3@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <PBECKMGOGDJDCPCHBBCIAELGCMAA.helmut.e.kotsch@t-online.de>

Hi,
would using Terminal Server bring a significant speed increase compared to
using PcAnywhere or VNC?

Helmut

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McLachlan
Gesendet: Freitag, 5. November 2004 03:37
An: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Betreff: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Speed up access over a network


On 5 Nov 2004 at 12:55, Darren DICK wrote:

> Hello all
> I realise the q is very broad and has a million possible suggestions
> That's what I'm after
>
> I have a client who I am developing an app for. So far they are very
> pleased.
> But just the other day....They now want to be able to use the app
> after hours at home on their laptops. (And they are prepared to pay for
this
> major re-direction)
>
> So this means connecting (in some cases) to the back end using dial up
> <Sheesh>
>
> Am I in the wrong business here?
>
> Is this time to migrate the App to be browser based? (Which I know nothing
> about by the way)
>
> If you guys have successfully got your Access Apps to work at any decent
> sort of speed
> over dial up can you let me know how??
>

One option is to set up Terminal Server in the workplace and have them
connect using a Terminal Services client.

See http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/demos/mod09.htm for quite a good
demo.



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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Fri Nov  5 07:12:09 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 14:12:09 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Speed up access over a network
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B54EC@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

ABSOLUTELY
No doubt about that...

And VNC or PCA is not an option when using multiple users and for afety
reasons (unless a seperate pc is used) 

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Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 1:30 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: AW: [AccessD] A2K: Speed up access over a network

Hi,
would using Terminal Server bring a significant speed increase compared
to using PcAnywhere or VNC?

Helmut

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Stuart
McLachlan
Gesendet: Freitag, 5. November 2004 03:37
An: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Betreff: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Speed up access over a network


On 5 Nov 2004 at 12:55, Darren DICK wrote:

> Hello all
> I realise the q is very broad and has a million possible suggestions 
> That's what I'm after
>
> I have a client who I am developing an app for. So far they are very 
> pleased.
> But just the other day....They now want to be able to use the app 
> after hours at home on their laptops. (And they are prepared to pay 
> for
this
> major re-direction)
>
> So this means connecting (in some cases) to the back end using dial up

> <Sheesh>
>
> Am I in the wrong business here?
>
> Is this time to migrate the App to be browser based? (Which I know 
> nothing about by the way)
>
> If you guys have successfully got your Access Apps to work at any 
> decent sort of speed over dial up can you let me know how??
>

One option is to set up Terminal Server in the workplace and have them
connect using a Terminal Services client.

See http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/demos/mod09.htm for quite a
good
demo.



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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Nov  5 07:34:45 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 14:34:45 +0100
Subject: AW: [AccessD] A2K: Speed up access over a network
In-Reply-To: <PBECKMGOGDJDCPCHBBCIAELGCMAA.helmut.e.kotsch@t-online.de>
References: <PBECKMGOGDJDCPCHBBCIAELGCMAA.helmut.e.kotsch@t-online.de>
Message-ID: <4621109323.20041105143445@cactus.dk>

Hi Helmut

> would using Terminal Server bring a significant speed increase compared to
> using PcAnywhere or VNC?

The speed of the app itself will be about the same - this is
determined by the hardware at the host end.

Response time, however, is much slower with VNC. I don't know about
PcAnywhere, but their competitor NetOp Remote Control is very fast and
offers remote printing as does the Terminal Server.

/gustav



From shait at mindspring.com  Fri Nov  5 07:36:15 2004
From: shait at mindspring.com (Stephen Hait)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 08:36:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Speed up access over a network
In-Reply-To: <200411050330.iA53UHXH009824@cooper.uws.edu.au>
References: <418B73CF.28101.19A80AB3@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <418B3B7F.22400.E7A815B@localhost>


> Where do I set all this stuff up (Actually How is a better
> question:-)) 
> 
> Calling all Terminal Server gurus

Another possibility, if users access the app via a locally installed 
FE "at work", might be to let them access the app through their 
_own_ desktops via VNC, gotomypc, or similar. 

Just a thought,
Stephen



From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Fri Nov  5 07:42:04 2004
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 08:42:04 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F8E@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Understood.
Is it bad for to store the actual data, when using text, if they all share
the same prefix?

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Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 6:05 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL

On 4 Nov 2004 at 14:27, Joe Rojas wrote:

> Arthur,
>
> I was not expecting the database to act intelligently. To be honest I was
> not expecting there to even be a solution to this although Gustav figured
it
> out!
>
> I have an Access database that I used to keep track of the computers at my
> company. The computer naming convention that I use is TNCO###. One of the
> fields in the table is used for storing the computer name. If I remove a
> computer from our network and physical remove it from the company, I would
> like to be able to reuse that computer name instead of just using the next
> sequential number. To me I do not see it as concatenating two column
values
> into one but I could be wrong. What do you think Arthur?
>

If you *always* use the same initial characters, you could just store the
numeric value in the table and display them formatted as "TNCO"000 

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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Fri Nov  5 08:01:28 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 09:01:28 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C744869F4@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Thanks Darren.  Is this db you're compacting in 2002/2003 format or 2000?  As I understand it a 2002/2003 format file would not compact down like that.

Jim DeMarco

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To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating


Hi Jim
I think the issue is still there - maybe lessened, but still there

If you have access to the app perhaps try this...
I get into the code area and compile it
I have an icon Called DECOMPILE in the SendTo folder of AllUsers that points
to

C:\ProgramFiles\Microsoft Office\OfficeXX\MSACCESS.exe /decompile

(Replace the path with your Access Path)

Then I right click the dB or the db's shortcut icon and click SendTo and
select DECOMPILE

Then I get into the dB and Compact and repair it.

I can get a 9 meg monster down to about 1.8 - 2 megs

Do it every time I deliver a fresh version or app

HTH

See ya

DD


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2004 7:44 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

What file format are you using?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Erwin Craps - IT Helps [mailto:Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 12:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating


I use A2K3 for a while now, I believe I never experienced a, out of the
ordinary, bloating in A2K3.

Erwin

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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:02 PM
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Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

List,

Has M$ addressed the database bloating issue in A2K3 I've read about on
the list?  We're in the process of converting our A97 apps to A2K3 and
I'm trying to decide between A2K format or A2K3.  Any suggestions?

TIA,

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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Fri Nov  5 08:23:37 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 15:23:37 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B54ED@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Please note that is is normal that a file is smaller after compacting.

Don't forget after compacting your code needs to compile and store, but
also queuries are compiled the first time they run. 

Erwin

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Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 3:01 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

Thanks Darren.  Is this db you're compacting in 2002/2003 format or
2000?  As I understand it a 2002/2003 format file would not compact down
like that.

Jim DeMarco

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren DICK
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 5:23 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating


Hi Jim
I think the issue is still there - maybe lessened, but still there

If you have access to the app perhaps try this...
I get into the code area and compile it
I have an icon Called DECOMPILE in the SendTo folder of AllUsers that
points to

C:\ProgramFiles\Microsoft Office\OfficeXX\MSACCESS.exe /decompile

(Replace the path with your Access Path)

Then I right click the dB or the db's shortcut icon and click SendTo and
select DECOMPILE

Then I get into the dB and Compact and repair it.

I can get a 9 meg monster down to about 1.8 - 2 megs

Do it every time I deliver a fresh version or app

HTH

See ya

DD


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2004 7:44 AM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

What file format are you using?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Erwin Craps - IT Helps [mailto:Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 12:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating


I use A2K3 for a while now, I believe I never experienced a, out of the
ordinary, bloating in A2K3.

Erwin

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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:02 PM
To: AccessD (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

List,

Has M$ addressed the database bloating issue in A2K3 I've read about on
the list?  We're in the process of converting our A97 apps to A2K3 and
I'm trying to decide between A2K format or A2K3.  Any suggestions?

TIA,

Jim DeMarco
Director Application Development
Hudson Health Plan
Tarrytown, NY


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From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Fri Nov  5 08:31:05 2004
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 09:31:05 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:BackEnd Upgrader
In-Reply-To: <026d01c4c32a$ef52f2d0$fa10a8c0@Albatross>
Message-ID: <FKEBJOENDDBJHLINGOBHEEBOFOAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

Borge, I'm not sure about the latest version.  I know I am using 1.58

I beleive there is a new version.  Unfortunately it has some untested stuff
in it and therefore unreleased.

Hopefully Andy or Bryan will see this and know more.  I'll try to contact
them as well.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com

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> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 6:31 AM
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> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K:BackEnd Upgrader
>
>
> The About Form says : Version 1.58
>
> Latest One??
>
> Regards
> Borge Hansen
>
>
> > On 5 Nov 2004 at 17:21, Borge Steen Hansen wrote:
> >
> > > I've downloaded the BEUp.mdb from http://www.databaseadvisors.com A
> > > few questions: Is 16 June 2002 the latest revision?
> >
> > Which version is that? Check the About form.
> >
> > > Has any work beendone on the BEup to accommodate more than
> one backend?
> >
> > None that I am aware of
> >
> > > Who best to contact with any specific questions or suggestions?
> >
> > You can ask here, since all the developers hang out here (Andy,
> > Reuben and myself), but it may get missed or you can e-mail beu-
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> > at the developers directly.
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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Fri Nov  5 08:56:43 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 09:56:43 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C744869F8@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Understood Erwin. But I've been hearing that the new file format will either not compact down at all or very little unlike previous versions.

Jim D.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Erwin Craps -
IT Helps
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 9:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating


Please note that is is normal that a file is smaller after compacting.

Don't forget after compacting your code needs to compile and store, but
also queuries are compiled the first time they run. 

Erwin

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 3:01 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

Thanks Darren.  Is this db you're compacting in 2002/2003 format or
2000?  As I understand it a 2002/2003 format file would not compact down
like that.

Jim DeMarco

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren DICK
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 5:23 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating


Hi Jim
I think the issue is still there - maybe lessened, but still there

If you have access to the app perhaps try this...
I get into the code area and compile it
I have an icon Called DECOMPILE in the SendTo folder of AllUsers that
points to

C:\ProgramFiles\Microsoft Office\OfficeXX\MSACCESS.exe /decompile

(Replace the path with your Access Path)

Then I right click the dB or the db's shortcut icon and click SendTo and
select DECOMPILE

Then I get into the dB and Compact and repair it.

I can get a 9 meg monster down to about 1.8 - 2 megs

Do it every time I deliver a fresh version or app

HTH

See ya

DD


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2004 7:44 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

What file format are you using?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Erwin Craps - IT Helps [mailto:Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 12:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating


I use A2K3 for a while now, I believe I never experienced a, out of the
ordinary, bloating in A2K3.

Erwin

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:02 PM
To: AccessD (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

List,

Has M$ addressed the database bloating issue in A2K3 I've read about on
the list?  We're in the process of converting our A97 apps to A2K3 and
I'm trying to decide between A2K format or A2K3.  Any suggestions?

TIA,

Jim DeMarco
Director Application Development
Hudson Health Plan
Tarrytown, NY


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From mastercafe at ctv.es  Fri Nov  5 09:55:35 2004
From: mastercafe at ctv.es (MastercafeCTV)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 16:55:35 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2k on W2k vs A2k on WinXP
In-Reply-To: <001a01c4c2ed$40e1bcf0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <009201c4c34f$f611a240$0500a8c0@masterserv>

And how to solve?? It's really terrible close and open the same application
to check and make changes on the code

Juan

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: viernes, 05 de noviembre de 2004 05:10
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2k on W2k vs A2k on WinXP


I have seen this and it was a security issue, user rights to the directory.
Apparently Windows XP adds some stuff in this regard that Win2K didn't care
about.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 9:06 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] A2k on W2k vs A2k on WinXP


We install on one computer this week WinXP with Office XP dev. Ed On some
application we discover that if we open and run we can't modify anything
this only occur on WinXP same process on Win2k Access permit to us modify
and save without problem. We try to make some changes before run the
application and this is ok, and run Swichtboard only and run OK, but if we
execute a simple query opening and writing over this application (any table)
then we can't do changes.

Why? Why Win2k permit to do this and WinXP not??

Thanks for any ideas


Juan

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Nov  5 10:14:12 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 08:14:12 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B51@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Are you referencing an MDE at all?  We found that we had similar
problems with an app when the code library we were referencing was in
the application folder, since the user is allowed to determine the app
folder at installation.  Even though the reference appeared to be
resolved, it required unsetting it and then resetting it before things
got back to normal.  We solved the problem by putting the mde in the
runtime folder, which we install to a fixed location.  After that, we
stopped having that particular problem.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Kath Pelletti [mailto:KP at sdsonline.net] 
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:27 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


For now I have got client back online - I was able to remote access the
PC, remove the references to DAO and ADO, save, reopen the refs window,
select the DAO and ADO again (in that order) and recompile. That seems
to have the date() function back for them again. Strangely though, there
are still a few errors with format().

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dan Waters 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 11:13 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


  Kath,

  A few years ago I noticed this problem on a few computers, and it was
a
  sporadic problem.  To get around it I put the following in a standard
  module:

  Public Function CurrentDate() As Date

      CurrentDate = CDate(DatePart("m", Now()) & "/" & DatePart("d",
Now()) _
  & "/" & DatePart("yyyy", Now()))

      Exit Function

  End Function

  Now whenever I need the current date I just write:  txtDate =
CurrentDate

  No problems for several years now!

  Dan Waters
  ProMation Systems

  -----Original Message-----
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Pelletti
  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 4:23 PM
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
  Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?

  Hoping someone can shed some light here....

  A client using Windows 2000 Pro and Access 2000 has been using an mdb
  written in Access 2000 for several years. But this week when I
installed an
  upgrade (same platform), the Date() functions throw errors, as do the
  Format() functions.

  They have a critical error at the moment caused by Date() notworking
which I
  need to fix today. I know I could modify these functions to use, eg.
Now(),
  but is this a MDAC problem? Mine is MDAC 2.7 on Windows XP SP1. 

  If I asked my client to download MDAC 2.8 (which I see is the latest)
- is
  this going to solve the problem?

  I do not understand how this upgrade could possible have afftected the
use
  of these functions??

  Thanks

  Kath
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From JColby at dispec.com  Fri Nov  5 10:16:21 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 11:16:21 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] A2k on W2k vs A2k on WinXP
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF953@DISABILITYINS01>

In the cases I had, it had to do with the users not having WINDOWS rights to
the directory where the stuff was stored on the server.  IIRC the answer was
to set up user accounts using the same user names / passwords on the server
so that they had the rights to access the dir.  I am not a notwork guy so
there may be other ways to deal with this.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: MastercafeCTV [mailto:mastercafe at ctv.es]
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 10:56 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2k on W2k vs A2k on WinXP


And how to solve?? It's really terrible close and open the same application
to check and make changes on the code

Juan

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: viernes, 05 de noviembre de 2004 05:10
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2k on W2k vs A2k on WinXP


I have seen this and it was a security issue, user rights to the directory.
Apparently Windows XP adds some stuff in this regard that Win2K didn't care
about.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 9:06 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] A2k on W2k vs A2k on WinXP


We install on one computer this week WinXP with Office XP dev. Ed On some
application we discover that if we open and run we can't modify anything
this only occur on WinXP same process on Win2k Access permit to us modify
and save without problem. We try to make some changes before run the
application and this is ok, and run Swichtboard only and run OK, but if we
execute a simple query opening and writing over this application (any table)
then we can't do changes.

Why? Why Win2k permit to do this and WinXP not??

Thanks for any ideas


Juan

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Nov  5 10:48:27 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 08:48:27 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] how to do this?
References: <200411050926.iA59QM8s014181@mailhostC.plex.net>
Message-ID: <418BAEDB.7090507@shaw.ca>

Well you can either store the Quantity on Hand or Calculate it
Here is an article that describes the pros and cons, This will affect 
your overall design.
Inventory Control: Quantity on Hand
http://members.iinet.net.au/~allenbrowne/AppInventory.html


pedro at plex.nl wrote:

>Hello Group,
>
>What is the best way to do the following routine?
>
>I have a form with a field: [ArticleNumber]. I am scanning a barcode and the Article Number is placed in the field. When the Article number is placed this number must be processed as Follows; (in the table behind the form is also a field: [Quantity]) the value of [Quantity] must be decreased with 1. When the amount of [Quantity] reaches a certain minimum a message box must appear.
>
>How can this been done.
>
>Thanks
>
>Pedro Janssen 
>
>
>  
>

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From serbach at new.rr.com  Fri Nov  5 13:21:48 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 13:21:48 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] A2K/AXP Repllcation problem
Message-ID: <20041105132148.1553325418.serbach@new.rr.com>

Dear Group,

I have one application that uses Replication, for better or for worse. At the moment I'm converting it into a web-based app useing .NET technologies. Wish me luck.

But for now my client is still using replication. There are a few laptops that are taken all over the state and brought back to the home office for synchronizing. Today this error occured when the synchronization progress bar had gotten about half-way.:

"Synchronization between replica 'C:\Apps...mdb' and replica '\\Dawn-mpc\...mdb' failed.
The search key was not found in any record." (I removed the full UNC path to the database names. The database names are correct.)

The help for this error says: "Error 3079 occurs when an ISAM SEEK is being executed and there are no matching values in the index."

I have no clue as to which key or index in which table. I was told that synchronization took place last week flawlessly.

Might the repair and compact option be called for here? What do you think?

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI




From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Fri Nov  5 15:14:42 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 16:14:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:BackEnd Upgrader
In-Reply-To: <FKEBJOENDDBJHLINGOBHEEBOFOAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>
References: <026d01c4c32a$ef52f2d0$fa10a8c0@Albatross>
Message-ID: <418BA6F2.2116.C0F2A8@localhost>

On 5 Nov 2004 at 9:31, Reuben Cummings wrote:

> Borge, I'm not sure about the latest version.  I know I am using 1.58
> 
> I beleive there is a new version.  Unfortunately it has some untested
> stuff in it and therefore unreleased.
> 
> Hopefully Andy or Bryan will see this and know more.  I'll try to
> contact them as well.

Yep. 1.58 is the latest released version.

There is a V1.59 in beta stages. I forget exactly what was 
changed/added between 1.58 and 1.59. I think it was the ability to 
handle a BE that is password protected, but I'm not sure.

There is also a V2.01 in Alpha which allows it to work with a secured 
back end.

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Nov  5 15:44:11 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 07:44:11 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
In-Reply-To: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F8E@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <418C80CA.982.1DC2BEAE@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 5 Nov 2004 at 8:42, Joe Rojas wrote:

> Understood.
> Is it bad for to store the actual data, when using text, if they all share
> the same prefix?
> 

There are pros and cons - you need to weigh them up and make a decision 
based on how you are going to be entering/using the data.

-- 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Nov  5 23:36:00 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 21:36:00 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Speed up access over a network
In-Reply-To: <200411050155.iA51tmXH015988@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIAENKCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Darren:

Why not have a complete copy of the current DB on their laptop or remote
computer and just sync the DBs. The process is usually very fast, even on a
56K link and then the tables can be re-synced back into the office master
when updating is completed.

HTH
Jim

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Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 5:56 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Speed up access over a network


Hello all
I realise the q is very broad and has a million possible suggestions
That's what I'm after

I have a client who I am developing an app for. So far they are very
pleased.
But just the other day....They now want to be able to use the app
after hours at home on their laptops. (And they are prepared to pay for this
major re-direction)

So this means connecting (in some cases) to the back end using dial up
<Sheesh>

Am I in the wrong business here?

Is this time to migrate the App to be browser based? (Which I know nothing
about by the way)

If you guys have successfully got your Access Apps to work at any decent
sort of speed
over dial up can you let me know how??

Many thanks

Darren

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Nov  6 22:08:54 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 23:08:54 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
In-Reply-To: <200411050451.iA54pqXH022864@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <002f01c4c47f$7f204b10$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is there an
equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of Office)?  Do these
other platforms have references like we do in Access?  If so, can you
reference an MDA/E to use code in it?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Nov  6 22:13:16 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 23:13:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Forms in Word / Excel
In-Reply-To: <200411050451.iA54pqXH022864@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <003001c4c480$1f6f43a0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

I understand that you can use forms in Word, Excel and other Office apps.
How capable are they?  Do they have the same "code behind form" class for
writing code in?  Do the form controls have events in the same manner as
Access?  Are Withevents available?  Are classes available, and if so, where
are they stored?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sun Nov  7 00:14:47 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 22:14:47 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Forms in Word / Excel
In-Reply-To: <003001c4c480$1f6f43a0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <200411070614.iA76EfL18940@databaseadvisors.com>

John,

Some Excel form info from John Walkenbachs page:

http://j-walk.com/ss/excel/tips/userformtips.htm

Joe Hecht
jmhla at earthlink.net
28g
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Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 8:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Forms in Word / Excel

I understand that you can use forms in Word, Excel and other Office apps.
How capable are they?  Do they have the same "code behind form" class for
writing code in?  Do the form controls have events in the same manner as
Access?  Are Withevents available?  Are classes available, and if so, where
are they stored?

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From serbach at new.rr.com  Sun Nov  7 04:53:10 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 04:53:10 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] A2K/AXP Repllcation problem
In-Reply-To: <20041105132148.1553325418.serbach@new.rr.com>
References: <20041105132148.1553325418.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <20041107045310.1540446425.serbach@new.rr.com>

Well, I found something over on Experts Exchange that may relate to this problem. It's a Microsoft KB article, Q301474. We'll see.

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI


> ------------Original Message------------
> From: "Steven W. Erbach" <serbach at new.rr.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Date: Fri, Nov-5-2004 1:41 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] A2K/AXP Repllcation problem
> 
> Dear Group,
> 
> I have one application that uses Replication, for better or for worse. 
> At the moment I'm converting it into a web-based app useing .NET 
> technologies. Wish me luck.
> 
> But for now my client is still using replication. There are a few 
> laptops that are taken all over the state and brought back to the home 
> office for synchronizing. Today this error occured when the synchronization 
> progress bar had gotten about half-way.:




From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sun Nov  7 07:40:33 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 07:40:33 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Remote Queries
Message-ID: <000601c4c4cf$5b020570$de1811d8@danwaters>

Has anyone had experience with what is called a Remote Query?

 

This is where you write the complete path to a table in the Select statement
for a recordset or a form or report recordsource.

 

An example:

 

"SELECT * FROM tblProcessMain" _

            " IN 'C:\Databases\Process.mdb'" _

            " WHERE ProcessStage <> 'Closed'"

 

Using a remote query means that a Front End doesn't need to link to a Back
End.  It also allows a Front End to be distributed without table links and
queries - thus hiding the location of the Back End.

 

This is new to me!  What might be the pros/cons/problems with using Remote
Queries?

 

TIA,

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems



From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Sun Nov  7 08:40:16 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 09:40:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
In-Reply-To: <002f01c4c47f$7f204b10$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
References: <200411050451.iA54pqXH022864@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <418DED80.20562.1724CE@localhost>

On 6 Nov 2004 at 23:08, John W. Colby wrote:

> In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is there
> an equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of Office)?  Do

Word/Excel, Not that I've ever run across but then again I've never 
gone looking for that capability either.

> these other platforms have references like we do in Access?  If so,

Yes. References are a VBE thing.

> can you reference an MDA/E to use code in it?

Never tried, but can't see why it wouldn't work.

-- 
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When everything is coming your way......you're in the wrong lane.




From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Sun Nov  7 08:47:36 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 09:47:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Forms in Word / Excel
In-Reply-To: <003001c4c480$1f6f43a0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
References: <200411050451.iA54pqXH022864@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <418DEF38.30083.1DDC8C@localhost>

On 6 Nov 2004 at 23:13, John W. Colby wrote:

> I understand that you can use forms in Word, Excel and other Office
> apps. How capable are they?  Do they have the same "code behind form"

Becareful with the word Forms in Word. There are several things that 
are called forms in Word. There are "Fill-In-Forms" wich is just a 
Word doc with fields in the doc that you fill in.

Then there are UserForms, which is what I think you are asking about. 
They are similar to Access Forms, but more closely behave like VB 
Forms.

> class for writing code in?  Do the form controls have events in the

Yes, the Userforms, which are available in Excel too, have class 
modules.

> same manner as Access?  Are Withevents available?  Are classes

Yes., but the more closely resemble VB controls.
WithEvents are available from Office 97 Up, IIRC.

> available, and if so, where are they stored?

Yes, classes are available, but where they are stored depends.
Word Document that you add the class too have the class stored in the 
.doc file.
Word Templates that you add classes to have the class stored in the 
.dot file.
Word Docuemnts that you create from a template that has classes in 
the template have the class stored in the .dot.

Excel Workbooks that you add classes to have the classes stored in 
the .xls file

Excel Templates that you add classes to have the classes stored in 
the .xlt file

Excel Workbooks that you create from Excel Templates that have 
classes have the classes stored in the .xls file. IOW, all the code, 
userforms, etc from an Excel template gets copied into the new 
workbook you create. It can be a real PITA.

How's that for a start and to raise more questions :)

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Following the rules will not get the job done. 




From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sun Nov  7 13:02:38 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 11:02:38 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
References: <002f01c4c47f$7f204b10$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <418E714E.9030505@shaw.ca>

In Excel you can store functions and modules as Public in .xla  files. 
Old Excel pre 97 didn't store the code in xla it
looked like an mde file. Matter of fact you can call these .xla files 
from Access. I have called functions from the Excel Statistical and 
Financial Analysis Packs.

In Outlook 2000  and any code that you create in the Outlook VBA 
environment is stored in a file named VBAProject.otm.
Even though you can copy the VBAProject.otm file, that's not a good way 
to distribute Outlook macros company-wide. The recommended method is to 
create an Outlook or Word  COM add-in. Talk to Shamil he has been 
upgrading com addins to dotnet.
http://www.outlookcode.com/d/vb.htm
http://www.outlookcode.com/d/comaddins.htm

Word uses templates either user or workgroup (to be shared) in a 
specific folder
A template  contain macros or other customizations such as toolbars, it 
works better from some locations than others.
Again these com addin's can be used in place of macro's.
see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/index.htm

Just for future reference this method is also partially available under 
word and excel

Under the Tools/References menu in the VBE, you need to check the
Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 object library.
Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VBA\VBA6\VBE6EXT.OLB


The following code exports the contents of the Code Module to a
file called test.bas. This can be run from Word or Excel

Application.VBE.ActiveVBProject.VBComponents("Module1").Export("test.bas")
I think you can also import code this way but never tried it or got it 
to work or something.

John W. Colby wrote:

>In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is there an
>equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of Office)?  Do these
>other platforms have references like we do in Access?  If so, can you
>reference an MDA/E to use code in it?
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com 
>
>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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>
>
>  
>

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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Sun Nov  7 16:43:59 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 09:43:59 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating
In-Reply-To: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C744869F4@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>
Message-ID: <200411072244.iA7Mi6XH003688@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Jim
I work with Access 200 and 2003
I get good results with this method


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Saturday, 6 November 2004 1:01 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

Thanks Darren.  Is this db you're compacting in 2002/2003 format or 2000?
As I understand it a 2002/2003 format file would not compact down like that.

Jim DeMarco

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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 5:23 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating


Hi Jim
I think the issue is still there - maybe lessened, but still there

If you have access to the app perhaps try this...
I get into the code area and compile it
I have an icon Called DECOMPILE in the SendTo folder of AllUsers that points
to

C:\ProgramFiles\Microsoft Office\OfficeXX\MSACCESS.exe /decompile

(Replace the path with your Access Path)

Then I right click the dB or the db's shortcut icon and click SendTo and
select DECOMPILE

Then I get into the dB and Compact and repair it.

I can get a 9 meg monster down to about 1.8 - 2 megs

Do it every time I deliver a fresh version or app

HTH

See ya

DD


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2004 7:44 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

What file format are you using?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Erwin Craps - IT Helps [mailto:Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 12:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating


I use A2K3 for a while now, I believe I never experienced a, out of the
ordinary, bloating in A2K3.

Erwin

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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:02 PM
To: AccessD (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] A2K3 Bloating

List,

Has M$ addressed the database bloating issue in A2K3 I've read about on the
list?  We're in the process of converting our A97 apps to A2K3 and I'm
trying to decide between A2K format or A2K3.  Any suggestions?

TIA,

Jim DeMarco
Director Application Development
Hudson Health Plan
Tarrytown, NY


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From KP at sdsonline.net  Sun Nov  7 17:49:48 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 10:49:48 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B51@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <006901c4c524$782fce70$6401a8c0@user>

Charlotte - no - no ref to mde - thanks anyway

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Charlotte Foust 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 3:14 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


  Are you referencing an MDE at all?  We found that we had similar
  problems with an app when the code library we were referencing was in
  the application folder, since the user is allowed to determine the app
  folder at installation.  Even though the reference appeared to be
  resolved, it required unsetting it and then resetting it before things
  got back to normal.  We solved the problem by putting the mde in the
  runtime folder, which we install to a fixed location.  After that, we
  stopped having that particular problem.

  Charlotte Foust


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Kath Pelletti [mailto:KP at sdsonline.net] 
  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:27 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


  For now I have got client back online - I was able to remote access the
  PC, remove the references to DAO and ADO, save, reopen the refs window,
  select the DAO and ADO again (in that order) and recompile. That seems
  to have the date() function back for them again. Strangely though, there
  are still a few errors with format().

  Kath
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Dan Waters 
    To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
    Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 11:13 AM
    Subject: RE: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


    Kath,

    A few years ago I noticed this problem on a few computers, and it was
  a
    sporadic problem.  To get around it I put the following in a standard
    module:

    Public Function CurrentDate() As Date

        CurrentDate = CDate(DatePart("m", Now()) & "/" & DatePart("d",
  Now()) _
    & "/" & DatePart("yyyy", Now()))

        Exit Function

    End Function

    Now whenever I need the current date I just write:  txtDate =
  CurrentDate

    No problems for several years now!

    Dan Waters
    ProMation Systems

    -----Original Message-----
    From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
    [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath
  Pelletti
    Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 4:23 PM
    To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
    Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?

    Hoping someone can shed some light here....

    A client using Windows 2000 Pro and Access 2000 has been using an mdb
    written in Access 2000 for several years. But this week when I
  installed an
    upgrade (same platform), the Date() functions throw errors, as do the
    Format() functions.

    They have a critical error at the moment caused by Date() notworking
  which I
    need to fix today. I know I could modify these functions to use, eg.
  Now(),
    but is this a MDAC problem? Mine is MDAC 2.7 on Windows XP SP1. 

    If I asked my client to download MDAC 2.8 (which I see is the latest)
  - is
    this going to solve the problem?

    I do not understand how this upgrade could possible have afftected the
  use
    of these functions??

    Thanks

    Kath
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Nov  7 18:37:56 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 16:37:56 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?
In-Reply-To: <006901c4c524$782fce70$6401a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLICEOECHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Kath:

This problem you are having sounds like a very old problem, about four to
five years ago, that I had on a site that had just been upgraded to A2K.
Neither the Date(), Format() etc., commands would work. The solution turned
out to be a simple update from MS. The problem only happened with upgrades
and not with full installs.

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 3:50 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


Charlotte - no - no ref to mde - thanks anyway

Kath
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Charlotte Foust
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 3:14 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


  Are you referencing an MDE at all?  We found that we had similar
  problems with an app when the code library we were referencing was in
  the application folder, since the user is allowed to determine the app
  folder at installation.  Even though the reference appeared to be
  resolved, it required unsetting it and then resetting it before things
  got back to normal.  We solved the problem by putting the mde in the
  runtime folder, which we install to a fixed location.  After that, we
  stopped having that particular problem.

  Charlotte Foust


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Kath Pelletti [mailto:KP at sdsonline.net]
  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:27 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


  For now I have got client back online - I was able to remote access the
  PC, remove the references to DAO and ADO, save, reopen the refs window,
  select the DAO and ADO again (in that order) and recompile. That seems
  to have the date() function back for them again. Strangely though, there
  are still a few errors with format().

  Kath
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Dan Waters
    To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
    Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 11:13 AM
    Subject: RE: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


    Kath,

    A few years ago I noticed this problem on a few computers, and it was
  a
    sporadic problem.  To get around it I put the following in a standard
    module:

    Public Function CurrentDate() As Date

        CurrentDate = CDate(DatePart("m", Now()) & "/" & DatePart("d",
  Now()) _
    & "/" & DatePart("yyyy", Now()))

        Exit Function

    End Function

    Now whenever I need the current date I just write:  txtDate =
  CurrentDate

    No problems for several years now!

    Dan Waters
    ProMation Systems

    -----Original Message-----
    From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
    [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath
  Pelletti
    Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 4:23 PM
    To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
    Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?

    Hoping someone can shed some light here....

    A client using Windows 2000 Pro and Access 2000 has been using an mdb
    written in Access 2000 for several years. But this week when I
  installed an
    upgrade (same platform), the Date() functions throw errors, as do the
    Format() functions.

    They have a critical error at the moment caused by Date() notworking
  which I
    need to fix today. I know I could modify these functions to use, eg.
  Now(),
    but is this a MDAC problem? Mine is MDAC 2.7 on Windows XP SP1.

    If I asked my client to download MDAC 2.8 (which I see is the latest)
  - is
    this going to solve the problem?

    I do not understand how this upgrade could possible have afftected the
  use
    of these functions??

    Thanks

    Kath
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Sun Nov  7 19:14:17 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 12:14:17 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?
References: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLICEOECHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <001e01c4c530$45561cf0$6401a8c0@user>

I remember this happening back then too - with Win98 users - but I have never seen it with Win 2K pro or WinXP Pro. Back then I remember it was the MDAC version - but now - who knows. 

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 11:37 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


  Hi Kath:

  This problem you are having sounds like a very old problem, about four to
  five years ago, that I had on a site that had just been upgraded to A2K.
  Neither the Date(), Format() etc., commands would work. The solution turned
  out to be a simple update from MS. The problem only happened with upgrades
  and not with full installs.

  HTH
  Jim

  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 3:50 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


  Charlotte - no - no ref to mde - thanks anyway

  Kath
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Charlotte Foust
    To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
    Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 3:14 AM
    Subject: RE: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


    Are you referencing an MDE at all?  We found that we had similar
    problems with an app when the code library we were referencing was in
    the application folder, since the user is allowed to determine the app
    folder at installation.  Even though the reference appeared to be
    resolved, it required unsetting it and then resetting it before things
    got back to normal.  We solved the problem by putting the mde in the
    runtime folder, which we install to a fixed location.  After that, we
    stopped having that particular problem.

    Charlotte Foust


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Kath Pelletti [mailto:KP at sdsonline.net]
    Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:27 PM
    To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
    Subject: Re: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


    For now I have got client back online - I was able to remote access the
    PC, remove the references to DAO and ADO, save, reopen the refs window,
    select the DAO and ADO again (in that order) and recompile. That seems
    to have the date() function back for them again. Strangely though, there
    are still a few errors with format().

    Kath
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Dan Waters
      To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
      Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 11:13 AM
      Subject: RE: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?


      Kath,

      A few years ago I noticed this problem on a few computers, and it was
    a
      sporadic problem.  To get around it I put the following in a standard
      module:

      Public Function CurrentDate() As Date

          CurrentDate = CDate(DatePart("m", Now()) & "/" & DatePart("d",
    Now()) _
      & "/" & DatePart("yyyy", Now()))

          Exit Function

      End Function

      Now whenever I need the current date I just write:  txtDate =
    CurrentDate

      No problems for several years now!

      Dan Waters
      ProMation Systems

      -----Original Message-----
      From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
      [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath
    Pelletti
      Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 4:23 PM
      To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
      Subject: [AccessD] Date() not working - MDAC issue or not?

      Hoping someone can shed some light here....

      A client using Windows 2000 Pro and Access 2000 has been using an mdb
      written in Access 2000 for several years. But this week when I
    installed an
      upgrade (same platform), the Date() functions throw errors, as do the
      Format() functions.

      They have a critical error at the moment caused by Date() notworking
    which I
      need to fix today. I know I could modify these functions to use, eg.
    Now(),
      but is this a MDAC problem? Mine is MDAC 2.7 on Windows XP SP1.

      If I asked my client to download MDAC 2.8 (which I see is the latest)
    - is
      this going to solve the problem?

      I do not understand how this upgrade could possible have afftected the
    use
      of these functions??

      Thanks

      Kath
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Nov  7 19:36:55 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 20:36:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
In-Reply-To: <418E714E.9030505@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <000001c4c533$71eabe30$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Holy cow, is that a mish mash or what?  The point of my questions was to try
to find a common ground where code could be stored and run from all of the
various office applications.  Not to be it would seem.  It does seem bizarre
that if I had some function that should be able to run in any of the apps I
have to save the same thing in 5 different places so that Access, Excel,
Word, Powerpoint and Outlook could use it.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 2:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


In Excel you can store functions and modules as Public in .xla  files. 
Old Excel pre 97 didn't store the code in xla it
looked like an mde file. Matter of fact you can call these .xla files 
from Access. I have called functions from the Excel Statistical and 
Financial Analysis Packs.

In Outlook 2000  and any code that you create in the Outlook VBA 
environment is stored in a file named VBAProject.otm.
Even though you can copy the VBAProject.otm file, that's not a good way 
to distribute Outlook macros company-wide. The recommended method is to 
create an Outlook or Word  COM add-in. Talk to Shamil he has been 
upgrading com addins to dotnet. http://www.outlookcode.com/d/vb.htm
http://www.outlookcode.com/d/comaddins.htm

Word uses templates either user or workgroup (to be shared) in a 
specific folder
A template  contain macros or other customizations such as toolbars, it 
works better from some locations than others.
Again these com addin's can be used in place of macro's.
see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/index.htm

Just for future reference this method is also partially available under 
word and excel

Under the Tools/References menu in the VBE, you need to check the Microsoft
Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 object library. Microsoft
Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 C:\Program Files\Common
Files\Microsoft Shared\VBA\VBA6\VBE6EXT.OLB


The following code exports the contents of the Code Module to a file called
test.bas. This can be run from Word or Excel

Application.VBE.ActiveVBProject.VBComponents("Module1").Export("test.bas")
I think you can also import code this way but never tried it or got it 
to work or something.

John W. Colby wrote:

>In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is there 
>an equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of Office)?  Do 
>these other platforms have references like we do in Access?  If so, can 
>you reference an MDA/E to use code in it?
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>
>  
>

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Nov  7 19:37:56 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 20:37:56 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
In-Reply-To: <418DED80.20562.1724CE@localhost>
Message-ID: <000101c4c533$959af160$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

I tried from Word and it definitely doesn't work.  Haven't tried yet from
Excel etc but I am not optimistic.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 9:40 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


On 6 Nov 2004 at 23:08, John W. Colby wrote:

> In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is there 
> an equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of Office)?  Do

Word/Excel, Not that I've ever run across but then again I've never 
gone looking for that capability either.

> these other platforms have references like we do in Access?  If so,

Yes. References are a VBE thing.

> can you reference an MDA/E to use code in it?

Never tried, but can't see why it wouldn't work.

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From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Sun Nov  7 20:26:30 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 21:26:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
In-Reply-To: <000101c4c533$959af160$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
References: <418DED80.20562.1724CE@localhost>
Message-ID: <418E9306.22911.29DB85D@localhost>

On 7 Nov 2004 at 20:37, John W. Colby wrote:

> I tried from Word and it definitely doesn't work.  Haven't tried yet
> from Excel etc but I am not optimistic.

Well, I just went looking and it looks like that you would need to 
create a VB DLL for a code library to share code across all the 
Office apps.

BTW, you can't reference an md[a|e] in Excel Excel templates and 
worksheets only. I just checked :(

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From michael.mattys at adelphia.net  Sun Nov  7 21:16:23 2004
From: michael.mattys at adelphia.net (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 22:16:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
References: <000001c4c533$71eabe30$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <00f501c4c541$54594860$6401a8c0@default>

John,

Are you talking about the designers?

I thought you could have a common standard or class module
within the dll, and just pass in the Application object as Object.
Then just Select Case to perform the appropriate action.
I'll look again, but I'm pretty sure that's it.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 8:36 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


> Holy cow, is that a mish mash or what?  The point of my questions was to
try
> to find a common ground where code could be stored and run from all of the
> various office applications.  Not to be it would seem.  It does seem
bizarre
> that if I had some function that should be able to run in any of the apps
I
> have to save the same thing in 5 different places so that Access, Excel,
> Word, Powerpoint and Outlook could use it.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 2:03 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
> In Excel you can store functions and modules as Public in .xla  files.
> Old Excel pre 97 didn't store the code in xla it
> looked like an mde file. Matter of fact you can call these .xla files
> from Access. I have called functions from the Excel Statistical and
> Financial Analysis Packs.
>
> In Outlook 2000  and any code that you create in the Outlook VBA
> environment is stored in a file named VBAProject.otm.
> Even though you can copy the VBAProject.otm file, that's not a good way
> to distribute Outlook macros company-wide. The recommended method is to
> create an Outlook or Word  COM add-in. Talk to Shamil he has been
> upgrading com addins to dotnet. http://www.outlookcode.com/d/vb.htm
> http://www.outlookcode.com/d/comaddins.htm
>
> Word uses templates either user or workgroup (to be shared) in a
> specific folder
> A template  contain macros or other customizations such as toolbars, it
> works better from some locations than others.
> Again these com addin's can be used in place of macro's.
> see
> http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/index.htm
>
> Just for future reference this method is also partially available under
> word and excel
>
> Under the Tools/References menu in the VBE, you need to check the
Microsoft
> Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 object library. Microsoft
> Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 C:\Program Files\Common
> Files\Microsoft Shared\VBA\VBA6\VBE6EXT.OLB
>
>
> The following code exports the contents of the Code Module to a file
called
> test.bas. This can be run from Word or Excel
>
> Application.VBE.ActiveVBProject.VBComponents("Module1").Export("test.bas")
> I think you can also import code this way but never tried it or got it
> to work or something.
>
> John W. Colby wrote:
>
> >In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is there
> >an equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of Office)?  Do
> >these other platforms have references like we do in Access?  If so, can
> >you reference an MDA/E to use code in it?
> >
> >John W. Colby
> >www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> >Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> >http://folding.stanford.edu/
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> -- 
> Marty Connelly
> Victoria, B.C.
> Canada
>
>
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Nov  7 21:46:59 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 22:46:59 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
In-Reply-To: <00f501c4c541$54594860$6401a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <000301c4c545$9e1d9290$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

No, I'm talking about an application framework where the code is available
to any Office application.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:16 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


John,

Are you talking about the designers?

I thought you could have a common standard or class module within the dll,
and just pass in the Application object as Object. Then just Select Case to
perform the appropriate action. I'll look again, but I'm pretty sure that's
it.

----

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Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 8:36 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


> Holy cow, is that a mish mash or what?  The point of my questions was 
> to
try
> to find a common ground where code could be stored and run from all of 
> the various office applications.  Not to be it would seem.  It does 
> seem
bizarre
> that if I had some function that should be able to run in any of the 
> apps
I
> have to save the same thing in 5 different places so that Access, 
> Excel, Word, Powerpoint and Outlook could use it.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> MartyConnelly
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 2:03 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
> In Excel you can store functions and modules as Public in .xla  files. 
> Old Excel pre 97 didn't store the code in xla it looked like an mde 
> file. Matter of fact you can call these .xla files from Access. I have 
> called functions from the Excel Statistical and Financial Analysis 
> Packs.
>
> In Outlook 2000  and any code that you create in the Outlook VBA 
> environment is stored in a file named VBAProject.otm. Even though you 
> can copy the VBAProject.otm file, that's not a good way to distribute 
> Outlook macros company-wide. The recommended method is to create an 
> Outlook or Word  COM add-in. Talk to Shamil he has been upgrading com 
> addins to dotnet. http://www.outlookcode.com/d/vb.htm
> http://www.outlookcode.com/d/comaddins.htm
>
> Word uses templates either user or workgroup (to be shared) in a 
> specific folder A template  contain macros or other customizations 
> such as toolbars, it works better from some locations than others.
> Again these com addin's can be used in place of macro's.
> see
> http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/index.htm
>
> Just for future reference this method is also partially available 
> under word and excel
>
> Under the Tools/References menu in the VBE, you need to check the
Microsoft
> Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 object library. 
> Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 C:\Program 
> Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VBA\VBA6\VBE6EXT.OLB
>
>
> The following code exports the contents of the Code Module to a file
called
> test.bas. This can be run from Word or Excel
>
> Application.VBE.ActiveVBProject.VBComponents("Module1").Export("test.b
> as")
> I think you can also import code this way but never tried it or got it
> to work or something.
>
> John W. Colby wrote:
>
> >In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is 
> >there an equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of 
> >Office)?  Do these other platforms have references like we do in 
> >Access?  If so, can you reference an MDA/E to use code in it?
> >
> >John W. Colby
> >www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> >Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> >http://folding.stanford.edu/
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Marty Connelly
> Victoria, B.C.
> Canada
>
>
>
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From michael.mattys at adelphia.net  Sun Nov  7 22:08:34 2004
From: michael.mattys at adelphia.net (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 23:08:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
References: <000301c4c545$9e1d9290$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <012101c4c548$a06160b0$6401a8c0@default>

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but ...

(From Q230225)
COM add-ins are a new feature in Microsoft Office 2000
and are supported by all Office programs, including Outlook.

Key benefits of COM add-ins include:

COM add-ins run in-process with the host program, so custom
code generally runs faster than code implemented in Visual Basic
for Applications.

The basic COM add-in architecture is consistent across all Office
programs, whereas in previous versions of Office, each program had
its own add-in architecture.

You can create one COM add-in to use with more than one Office program.

Example:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/238228

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:46 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


> No, I'm talking about an application framework where the code is available
> to any Office application.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:16 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
> John,
>
> Are you talking about the designers?
>
> I thought you could have a common standard or class module within the dll,
> and just pass in the Application object as Object. Then just Select Case
to
> perform the appropriate action. I'll look again, but I'm pretty sure
that's
> it.
>
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 8:36 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
> > Holy cow, is that a mish mash or what?  The point of my questions was
> > to
> try
> > to find a common ground where code could be stored and run from all of
> > the various office applications.  Not to be it would seem.  It does
> > seem
> bizarre
> > that if I had some function that should be able to run in any of the
> > apps
> I
> > have to save the same thing in 5 different places so that Access,
> > Excel, Word, Powerpoint and Outlook could use it.
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > http://folding.stanford.edu/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> > MartyConnelly
> > Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 2:03 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
> >
> >
> > In Excel you can store functions and modules as Public in .xla  files.
> > Old Excel pre 97 didn't store the code in xla it looked like an mde
> > file. Matter of fact you can call these .xla files from Access. I have
> > called functions from the Excel Statistical and Financial Analysis
> > Packs.
> >
> > In Outlook 2000  and any code that you create in the Outlook VBA
> > environment is stored in a file named VBAProject.otm. Even though you
> > can copy the VBAProject.otm file, that's not a good way to distribute
> > Outlook macros company-wide. The recommended method is to create an
> > Outlook or Word  COM add-in. Talk to Shamil he has been upgrading com
> > addins to dotnet. http://www.outlookcode.com/d/vb.htm
> > http://www.outlookcode.com/d/comaddins.htm
> >
> > Word uses templates either user or workgroup (to be shared) in a
> > specific folder A template  contain macros or other customizations
> > such as toolbars, it works better from some locations than others.
> > Again these com addin's can be used in place of macro's.
> > see
> > http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/index.htm
> >
> > Just for future reference this method is also partially available
> > under word and excel
> >
> > Under the Tools/References menu in the VBE, you need to check the
> Microsoft
> > Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 object library.
> > Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 C:\Program
> > Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VBA\VBA6\VBE6EXT.OLB
> >
> >
> > The following code exports the contents of the Code Module to a file
> called
> > test.bas. This can be run from Word or Excel
> >
> > Application.VBE.ActiveVBProject.VBComponents("Module1").Export("test.b
> > as")
> > I think you can also import code this way but never tried it or got it
> > to work or something.
> >
> > John W. Colby wrote:
> >
> > >In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is
> > >there an equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of
> > >Office)?  Do these other platforms have references like we do in
> > >Access?  If so, can you reference an MDA/E to use code in it?
> > >
> > >John W. Colby
> > >www.ColbyConsulting.com
> > >
> > >Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > >http://folding.stanford.edu/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Marty Connelly
> > Victoria, B.C.
> > Canada
> >
> >
> >
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Nov  8 06:35:39 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 07:35:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
In-Reply-To: <012101c4c548$a06160b0$6401a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <000801c4c58f$74a397d0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

I am proposing a book to a publisher I just finished writing for, which will
be about reusable code for Microsoft Access specifically, modules, classes,
libraries and frameworks.  

I was hoping to find a way to make the code accessible to different
platforms should someone be more comfortable working in Word or Excel.
While a com object would certainly accomplish this, it involves tools (and
expertise) outside of the office suite.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 11:09 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but ...

(From Q230225)
COM add-ins are a new feature in Microsoft Office 2000
and are supported by all Office programs, including Outlook.

Key benefits of COM add-ins include:

COM add-ins run in-process with the host program, so custom code generally
runs faster than code implemented in Visual Basic for Applications.

The basic COM add-in architecture is consistent across all Office programs,
whereas in previous versions of Office, each program had its own add-in
architecture.

You can create one COM add-in to use with more than one Office program.

Example:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/238228

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:46 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


> No, I'm talking about an application framework where the code is 
> available to any Office application.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:16 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
> John,
>
> Are you talking about the designers?
>
> I thought you could have a common standard or class module within the 
> dll, and just pass in the Application object as Object. Then just 
> Select Case
to
> perform the appropriate action. I'll look again, but I'm pretty sure
that's
> it.
>
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 8:36 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
> > Holy cow, is that a mish mash or what?  The point of my questions 
> > was to
> try
> > to find a common ground where code could be stored and run from all 
> > of the various office applications.  Not to be it would seem.  It 
> > does seem
> bizarre
> > that if I had some function that should be able to run in any of the 
> > apps
> I
> > have to save the same thing in 5 different places so that Access, 
> > Excel, Word, Powerpoint and Outlook could use it.
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> > http://folding.stanford.edu/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> > MartyConnelly
> > Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 2:03 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
> >
> >
> > In Excel you can store functions and modules as Public in .xla  
> > files. Old Excel pre 97 didn't store the code in xla it looked like 
> > an mde file. Matter of fact you can call these .xla files from 
> > Access. I have called functions from the Excel Statistical and 
> > Financial Analysis Packs.
> >
> > In Outlook 2000  and any code that you create in the Outlook VBA 
> > environment is stored in a file named VBAProject.otm. Even though 
> > you can copy the VBAProject.otm file, that's not a good way to 
> > distribute Outlook macros company-wide. The recommended method is to 
> > create an Outlook or Word  COM add-in. Talk to Shamil he has been 
> > upgrading com addins to dotnet. http://www.outlookcode.com/d/vb.htm
> > http://www.outlookcode.com/d/comaddins.htm
> >
> > Word uses templates either user or workgroup (to be shared) in a 
> > specific folder A template  contain macros or other customizations 
> > such as toolbars, it works better from some locations than others. 
> > Again these com addin's can be used in place of macro's. see
> > http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/index.htm
> >
> > Just for future reference this method is also partially available 
> > under word and excel
> >
> > Under the Tools/References menu in the VBE, you need to check the
> Microsoft
> > Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 object library. 
> > Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 C:\Program 
> > Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VBA\VBA6\VBE6EXT.OLB
> >
> >
> > The following code exports the contents of the Code Module to a file
> called
> > test.bas. This can be run from Word or Excel
> >
> > Application.VBE.ActiveVBProject.VBComponents("Module1").Export("test
> > .b
> > as")
> > I think you can also import code this way but never tried it or got it
> > to work or something.
> >
> > John W. Colby wrote:
> >
> > >In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is 
> > >there an equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of 
> > >Office)?  Do these other platforms have references like we do in 
> > >Access?  If so, can you reference an MDA/E to use code in it?
> > >
> > >John W. Colby
> > >www.ColbyConsulting.com
> > >
> > >Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> > >http://folding.stanford.edu/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Marty Connelly
> > Victoria, B.C.
> > Canada
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
> >
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From Susan.Klos at fldoe.org  Mon Nov  8 09:38:45 2004
From: Susan.Klos at fldoe.org (Klos, Susan)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 10:38:45 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Missing months in a crosstab query
Message-ID: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE7393C@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.int>

I have the following crosstab query which I am using to bind to a report:

TRANSFORM Sum(tlnklodgingEvent.Guests) AS [Number]

SELECT IIf([weekend]=True,"Cabin occupancy/Weekend","Cabin
occupancy/Midweek") AS Type, "Cabin" AS Category

FROM tblEvent INNER JOIN tlnklodgingEvent ON tblEvent.InvoiceNo =
tlnklodgingEvent.EventID

WHERE (((tlnklodgingEvent.LodgingID)=5 Or (tlnklodgingEvent.LodgingID)=7 Or
(tlnklodgingEvent.LodgingID)=27 Or (tlnklodgingEvent.LodgingID)=30))

GROUP BY IIf([weekend]=True,"Cabin occupancy/Weekend","Cabin
occupancy/Midweek"), "Cabin"

PIVOT Month(tblEvent.Beginningdate);

 

I want to have the report show all months even though there may be no data
for a particular month.  In the above query, I get data for January through
June and September through December.  Nobody stayed in cabins during July
and August.  So in the report I want to show zeroes in those columns.  I
tried using text boxes and IIF statements to test for null but I knew that
wouldn't work because month numbers 7 and 8 aren't null they just don't
exist in the query.  I tried looking in help to see if there was an "if
exists" function to see if I could see if the field exists in the query.  I
couldn't find anything like that.  Should I be working at the query level
instead to have the query insert a zero if there are months missing?  If so
I will need help on that also.  Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

850-245-0708 

sc 205-0708

 



From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Mon Nov  8 09:45:13 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 09:45:13 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Remote Queries
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D06C@main2.marlow.com>

There are drawbacks.  I don't believe you can specificy a different .mdw or
username/password  with this type of statement.  Also, what if the Backend
is moved?  Instead of having to relink the tables, you'll have to change the
SQL in everything that uses this path.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 7:41 AM
To: Database Advisors
Subject: [AccessD] Remote Queries


Has anyone had experience with what is called a Remote Query?

 

This is where you write the complete path to a table in the Select statement
for a recordset or a form or report recordsource.

 

An example:

 

"SELECT * FROM tblProcessMain" _

            " IN 'C:\Databases\Process.mdb'" _

            " WHERE ProcessStage <> 'Closed'"

 

Using a remote query means that a Front End doesn't need to link to a Back
End.  It also allows a Front End to be distributed without table links and
queries - thus hiding the location of the Back End.

 

This is new to me!  What might be the pros/cons/problems with using Remote
Queries?

 

TIA,

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems

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From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Mon Nov  8 09:50:00 2004
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 10:50:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Missing months in a crosstab query
References: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE7393C@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.int>
Message-ID: <418F95A8.4040102@torchlake.com>

Hi Susan,
If you create an OUTER JOIN rather than an INNER JOIN to show all 
records in the table that holds the months, I think you will solve your 
problem.  I can't tell you how many times I have had to rediscover the 
basic truth that INNER JOIN means I will see only those records with 
matching field entries in both tables.
HTH,
Tina

Klos, Susan wrote:

>I have the following crosstab query which I am using to bind to a report:
>
>TRANSFORM Sum(tlnklodgingEvent.Guests) AS [Number]
>
>SELECT IIf([weekend]=True,"Cabin occupancy/Weekend","Cabin
>occupancy/Midweek") AS Type, "Cabin" AS Category
>
>FROM tblEvent INNER JOIN tlnklodgingEvent ON tblEvent.InvoiceNo =
>tlnklodgingEvent.EventID
>
>WHERE (((tlnklodgingEvent.LodgingID)=5 Or (tlnklodgingEvent.LodgingID)=7 Or
>(tlnklodgingEvent.LodgingID)=27 Or (tlnklodgingEvent.LodgingID)=30))
>
>GROUP BY IIf([weekend]=True,"Cabin occupancy/Weekend","Cabin
>occupancy/Midweek"), "Cabin"
>
>PIVOT Month(tblEvent.Beginningdate);
>
> 
>
>I want to have the report show all months even though there may be no data
>for a particular month.  In the above query, I get data for January through
>June and September through December.  Nobody stayed in cabins during July
>and August.  So in the report I want to show zeroes in those columns.  I
>tried using text boxes and IIF statements to test for null but I knew that
>wouldn't work because month numbers 7 and 8 aren't null they just don't
>exist in the query.  I tried looking in help to see if there was an "if
>exists" function to see if I could see if the field exists in the query.  I
>couldn't find anything like that.  Should I be working at the query level
>instead to have the query insert a zero if there are months missing?  If so
>I will need help on that also.  Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> 
>
>Susan Klos
>
>Senior Database Analyst
>
>Evaluation and Reporting
>
>Florida Department of Education
>
>850-245-0708 
>
>sc 205-0708
>
> 
>
>  
>




From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Nov  8 10:27:46 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 08:27:46 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B55@infoserver01.infostat.local>

But remember, Access doesn't use the same kind of forms that VB and the
other Office apps use.  If you want to share code, create a dll and
reference it in the various projects.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 5:37 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


Holy cow, is that a mish mash or what?  The point of my questions was to
try to find a common ground where code could be stored and run from all
of the various office applications.  Not to be it would seem.  It does
seem bizarre that if I had some function that should be able to run in
any of the apps I have to save the same thing in 5 different places so
that Access, Excel, Word, Powerpoint and Outlook could use it.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 2:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


In Excel you can store functions and modules as Public in .xla  files. 
Old Excel pre 97 didn't store the code in xla it
looked like an mde file. Matter of fact you can call these .xla files 
from Access. I have called functions from the Excel Statistical and 
Financial Analysis Packs.

In Outlook 2000  and any code that you create in the Outlook VBA 
environment is stored in a file named VBAProject.otm.
Even though you can copy the VBAProject.otm file, that's not a good way 
to distribute Outlook macros company-wide. The recommended method is to 
create an Outlook or Word  COM add-in. Talk to Shamil he has been 
upgrading com addins to dotnet. http://www.outlookcode.com/d/vb.htm
http://www.outlookcode.com/d/comaddins.htm

Word uses templates either user or workgroup (to be shared) in a 
specific folder
A template  contain macros or other customizations such as toolbars, it 
works better from some locations than others.
Again these com addin's can be used in place of macro's.
see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/index.htm

Just for future reference this method is also partially available under 
word and excel

Under the Tools/References menu in the VBE, you need to check the
Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 object
library. Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VBA\VBA6\VBE6EXT.OLB


The following code exports the contents of the Code Module to a file
called test.bas. This can be run from Word or Excel

Application.VBE.ActiveVBProject.VBComponents("Module1").Export("test.bas
")
I think you can also import code this way but never tried it or got it 
to work or something.

John W. Colby wrote:

>In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is there
>an equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of Office)?  Do 
>these other platforms have references like we do in Access?  If so, can

>you reference an MDA/E to use code in it?
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>
>  
>

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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



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From JColby at dispec.com  Mon Nov  8 11:06:07 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 12:06:07 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF959@DISABILITYINS01>

This is an area that provides a stark glimpse into the disparate roots of
the various Office Applications.  There is plenty of code that can / should
run in any of the applications.  Aside from the fact that I use a table to
pull initialization values for the framework, the framework itself (or at
least the foundation) has nothing whatsoever that is platform specific.  It
sets itself up, it provides hooks for services such as zip / unzip, ftp,
error logging etc.  All of that is just VBA.  No references to forms or
reports.  All that stuff should work just fine from Word, Excel, Outlook
etc.  There are developers who create entire applications around Outlook for
example.  They live, breath and die inside Outlook.  Yet the framework could
provide a valid foundation for an Outlook application just as easily as for
an Access application.

Of course a DLL can be created, but that is nowhere near as simple as what
can be done in Access (for example) where the app and the mda are placed in
the same dir, the app references the mda and starts using it.  No visual
basic compiler, no registration of a DLL, no registry keys, no nada.  Just
use it.

I played around with Excel this morning for a few minutes.  I was able to
create a class.  I could not for the life of me figure out how to change the
NAME of the class although it is probably possible somewhere.  I could place
an ocx combo (for example) on a spreadsheet.  I could set the combo to bind
to a cell, take its values from a range.  The combo can fire events handled
in the sheet's module.  I could dim a variable for a class which sinks the
combo events etc. etc.  All the pieces are there to write pretty powerful
aps from right inside Excel.  Very similar, yet distinctly different from
doing it in Access.  

So now I have a framework that is just VBA, but it is in an Access MDA.  In
order to use it in Excel I have to either somehow move it all out to an
excel set of classes / modules, stored in a workbook or something, or go to
an entirely external environment, use a compiler to create a dll, then
install and reference that dll.  

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 11:28 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


But remember, Access doesn't use the same kind of forms that VB and the
other Office apps use.  If you want to share code, create a dll and
reference it in the various projects.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 5:37 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


Holy cow, is that a mish mash or what?  The point of my questions was to
try to find a common ground where code could be stored and run from all
of the various office applications.  Not to be it would seem.  It does
seem bizarre that if I had some function that should be able to run in
any of the apps I have to save the same thing in 5 different places so
that Access, Excel, Word, Powerpoint and Outlook could use it.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 2:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


In Excel you can store functions and modules as Public in .xla  files. 
Old Excel pre 97 didn't store the code in xla it
looked like an mde file. Matter of fact you can call these .xla files 
from Access. I have called functions from the Excel Statistical and 
Financial Analysis Packs.

In Outlook 2000  and any code that you create in the Outlook VBA 
environment is stored in a file named VBAProject.otm.
Even though you can copy the VBAProject.otm file, that's not a good way 
to distribute Outlook macros company-wide. The recommended method is to 
create an Outlook or Word  COM add-in. Talk to Shamil he has been 
upgrading com addins to dotnet. http://www.outlookcode.com/d/vb.htm
http://www.outlookcode.com/d/comaddins.htm

Word uses templates either user or workgroup (to be shared) in a 
specific folder
A template  contain macros or other customizations such as toolbars, it 
works better from some locations than others.
Again these com addin's can be used in place of macro's.
see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/index.htm

Just for future reference this method is also partially available under 
word and excel

Under the Tools/References menu in the VBE, you need to check the
Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 object
library. Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VBA\VBA6\VBE6EXT.OLB


The following code exports the contents of the Code Module to a file
called test.bas. This can be run from Word or Excel

Application.VBE.ActiveVBProject.VBComponents("Module1").Export("test.bas
")
I think you can also import code this way but never tried it or got it 
to work or something.

John W. Colby wrote:

>In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is there
>an equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of Office)?  Do 
>these other platforms have references like we do in Access?  If so, can

>you reference an MDA/E to use code in it?
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>
>  
>

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Nov  8 11:30:00 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 09:30:00 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
In-Reply-To: <000801c4c58f$74a397d0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIIEOLCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

How many book writers does that make within the list? An impressive group of
individuals.

Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 4:36 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


I am proposing a book to a publisher I just finished writing for, which will
be about reusable code for Microsoft Access specifically, modules, classes,
libraries and frameworks.

I was hoping to find a way to make the code accessible to different
platforms should someone be more comfortable working in Word or Excel.
While a com object would certainly accomplish this, it involves tools (and
expertise) outside of the office suite.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 11:09 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but ...

(From Q230225)
COM add-ins are a new feature in Microsoft Office 2000
and are supported by all Office programs, including Outlook.

Key benefits of COM add-ins include:

COM add-ins run in-process with the host program, so custom code generally
runs faster than code implemented in Visual Basic for Applications.

The basic COM add-in architecture is consistent across all Office programs,
whereas in previous versions of Office, each program had its own add-in
architecture.

You can create one COM add-in to use with more than one Office program.

Example:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/238228

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----- Original Message -----
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:46 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


> No, I'm talking about an application framework where the code is
> available to any Office application.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:16 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
> John,
>
> Are you talking about the designers?
>
> I thought you could have a common standard or class module within the
> dll, and just pass in the Application object as Object. Then just
> Select Case
to
> perform the appropriate action. I'll look again, but I'm pretty sure
that's
> it.
>
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 8:36 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
> > Holy cow, is that a mish mash or what?  The point of my questions
> > was to
> try
> > to find a common ground where code could be stored and run from all
> > of the various office applications.  Not to be it would seem.  It
> > does seem
> bizarre
> > that if I had some function that should be able to run in any of the
> > apps
> I
> > have to save the same thing in 5 different places so that Access,
> > Excel, Word, Powerpoint and Outlook could use it.
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > http://folding.stanford.edu/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> > MartyConnelly
> > Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 2:03 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
> >
> >
> > In Excel you can store functions and modules as Public in .xla
> > files. Old Excel pre 97 didn't store the code in xla it looked like
> > an mde file. Matter of fact you can call these .xla files from
> > Access. I have called functions from the Excel Statistical and
> > Financial Analysis Packs.
> >
> > In Outlook 2000  and any code that you create in the Outlook VBA
> > environment is stored in a file named VBAProject.otm. Even though
> > you can copy the VBAProject.otm file, that's not a good way to
> > distribute Outlook macros company-wide. The recommended method is to
> > create an Outlook or Word  COM add-in. Talk to Shamil he has been
> > upgrading com addins to dotnet. http://www.outlookcode.com/d/vb.htm
> > http://www.outlookcode.com/d/comaddins.htm
> >
> > Word uses templates either user or workgroup (to be shared) in a
> > specific folder A template  contain macros or other customizations
> > such as toolbars, it works better from some locations than others.
> > Again these com addin's can be used in place of macro's. see
> > http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/index.htm
> >
> > Just for future reference this method is also partially available
> > under word and excel
> >
> > Under the Tools/References menu in the VBE, you need to check the
> Microsoft
> > Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 object library.
> > Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 C:\Program
> > Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VBA\VBA6\VBE6EXT.OLB
> >
> >
> > The following code exports the contents of the Code Module to a file
> called
> > test.bas. This can be run from Word or Excel
> >
> > Application.VBE.ActiveVBProject.VBComponents("Module1").Export("test
> > .b
> > as")
> > I think you can also import code this way but never tried it or got it
> > to work or something.
> >
> > John W. Colby wrote:
> >
> > >In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is
> > >there an equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of
> > >Office)?  Do these other platforms have references like we do in
> > >Access?  If so, can you reference an MDA/E to use code in it?
> > >
> > >John W. Colby
> > >www.ColbyConsulting.com
> > >
> > >Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > >http://folding.stanford.edu/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Marty Connelly
> > Victoria, B.C.
> > Canada
> >
> >
> >
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From JColby at dispec.com  Mon Nov  8 11:48:54 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 12:48:54 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF95A@DISABILITYINS01>

LOL.  You know the old saying "Its not what you know but who you know.".

Martin gave my name to Wrox.  I worked on one book for them then they went
bankrupt (hopefully through no fault of mine!).  Pieces were bought by Wiley
including the book I worked on.  They then contacted me about another
project.  

I want to do my own project though.  

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 12:30 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


How many book writers does that make within the list? An impressive group of
individuals.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 4:36 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


I am proposing a book to a publisher I just finished writing for, which will
be about reusable code for Microsoft Access specifically, modules, classes,
libraries and frameworks.

I was hoping to find a way to make the code accessible to different
platforms should someone be more comfortable working in Word or Excel.
While a com object would certainly accomplish this, it involves tools (and
expertise) outside of the office suite.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 11:09 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but ...

(From Q230225)
COM add-ins are a new feature in Microsoft Office 2000
and are supported by all Office programs, including Outlook.

Key benefits of COM add-ins include:

COM add-ins run in-process with the host program, so custom code generally
runs faster than code implemented in Visual Basic for Applications.

The basic COM add-in architecture is consistent across all Office programs,
whereas in previous versions of Office, each program had its own add-in
architecture.

You can create one COM add-in to use with more than one Office program.

Example:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/238228

----

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----- Original Message -----
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:46 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


> No, I'm talking about an application framework where the code is
> available to any Office application.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:16 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
> John,
>
> Are you talking about the designers?
>
> I thought you could have a common standard or class module within the
> dll, and just pass in the Application object as Object. Then just
> Select Case
to
> perform the appropriate action. I'll look again, but I'm pretty sure
that's
> it.
>
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 8:36 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
> > Holy cow, is that a mish mash or what?  The point of my questions
> > was to
> try
> > to find a common ground where code could be stored and run from all
> > of the various office applications.  Not to be it would seem.  It
> > does seem
> bizarre
> > that if I had some function that should be able to run in any of the
> > apps
> I
> > have to save the same thing in 5 different places so that Access,
> > Excel, Word, Powerpoint and Outlook could use it.
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > http://folding.stanford.edu/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> > MartyConnelly
> > Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 2:03 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
> >
> >
> > In Excel you can store functions and modules as Public in .xla
> > files. Old Excel pre 97 didn't store the code in xla it looked like
> > an mde file. Matter of fact you can call these .xla files from
> > Access. I have called functions from the Excel Statistical and
> > Financial Analysis Packs.
> >
> > In Outlook 2000  and any code that you create in the Outlook VBA
> > environment is stored in a file named VBAProject.otm. Even though
> > you can copy the VBAProject.otm file, that's not a good way to
> > distribute Outlook macros company-wide. The recommended method is to
> > create an Outlook or Word  COM add-in. Talk to Shamil he has been
> > upgrading com addins to dotnet. http://www.outlookcode.com/d/vb.htm
> > http://www.outlookcode.com/d/comaddins.htm
> >
> > Word uses templates either user or workgroup (to be shared) in a
> > specific folder A template  contain macros or other customizations
> > such as toolbars, it works better from some locations than others.
> > Again these com addin's can be used in place of macro's. see
> > http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/index.htm
> >
> > Just for future reference this method is also partially available
> > under word and excel
> >
> > Under the Tools/References menu in the VBE, you need to check the
> Microsoft
> > Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 object library.
> > Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 C:\Program
> > Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VBA\VBA6\VBE6EXT.OLB
> >
> >
> > The following code exports the contents of the Code Module to a file
> called
> > test.bas. This can be run from Word or Excel
> >
> > Application.VBE.ActiveVBProject.VBComponents("Module1").Export("test
> > .b
> > as")
> > I think you can also import code this way but never tried it or got it
> > to work or something.
> >
> > John W. Colby wrote:
> >
> > >In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is
> > >there an equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of
> > >Office)?  Do these other platforms have references like we do in
> > >Access?  If so, can you reference an MDA/E to use code in it?
> > >
> > >John W. Colby
> > >www.ColbyConsulting.com
> > >
> > >Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > >http://folding.stanford.edu/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Marty Connelly
> > Victoria, B.C.
> > Canada
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Nov  8 13:09:23 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 13:09:23 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Missing months in a crosstab query
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337203@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Didn't you ask about this a couiple of weeks ago? Did you try this?

"Check out p 157 of Getz's ADH. He suggests using the IN clause. EX:
PIVOT column-headings-field [IN(value1[,value2[,...etc]])]"

Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Klos, Susan [mailto:Susan.Klos at fldoe.org]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 9:39 AM
To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: [AccessD] Missing months in a crosstab query


I have the following crosstab query which I am using to bind to a report:

TRANSFORM Sum(tlnklodgingEvent.Guests) AS [Number]

SELECT IIf([weekend]=True,"Cabin occupancy/Weekend","Cabin
occupancy/Midweek") AS Type, "Cabin" AS Category

FROM tblEvent INNER JOIN tlnklodgingEvent ON tblEvent.InvoiceNo =
tlnklodgingEvent.EventID

WHERE (((tlnklodgingEvent.LodgingID)=5 Or (tlnklodgingEvent.LodgingID)=7 Or
(tlnklodgingEvent.LodgingID)=27 Or (tlnklodgingEvent.LodgingID)=30))

GROUP BY IIf([weekend]=True,"Cabin occupancy/Weekend","Cabin
occupancy/Midweek"), "Cabin"

PIVOT Month(tblEvent.Beginningdate);

 

I want to have the report show all months even though there may be no data
for a particular month.  In the above query, I get data for January through
June and September through December.  Nobody stayed in cabins during July
and August.  So in the report I want to show zeroes in those columns.  I
tried using text boxes and IIF statements to test for null but I knew that
wouldn't work because month numbers 7 and 8 aren't null they just don't
exist in the query.  I tried looking in help to see if there was an "if
exists" function to see if I could see if the field exists in the query.  I
couldn't find anything like that.  Should I be working at the query level
instead to have the query insert a zero if there are months missing?  If so
I will need help on that also.  Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

850-245-0708 

sc 205-0708

 

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Nov  8 13:26:36 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 11:26:36 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
References: <000801c4c58f$74a397d0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <418FC86C.5000306@shaw.ca>

It gets even more complex from .dotnet framework calling Com via PIA 
with Word 2003 and Excel.2003
You might only get away with this, using Application Objects, available 
in most MS object models.
For example this code should be callable from any VBA editor Word, 
Excel, Access or PowerPoint
Instead of InternetExplorer.application below you could use 
Word.Application etc

Try this code for a chuckle useful if you have to display large amount 
of scrollable text in Access.

This will need WMI installed on the machine, either WinXP or win2000 for 
the WMI portion of
example to run. Win 98 can install WMI 1.5 but may not work

Sub testIE()
'------------------
' qfcheck.vbs   ver 1.0  3-Dec-2003
' Check Automatic Update Installation History for Hotfixes
'------------------
'http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?
url=/technet/scriptcenter/logs/scrlog08.asp


Dim objExplorer As Object
Dim objDocument As Object
Dim strComputer As String
Dim objWMIService As Object
Dim colLoggedEvents As Object
Dim objEvent As Object
Dim dtmDate As Variant
Dim strReturn As String

Set objExplorer = CreateObject("InternetExplorer.Application")
objExplorer.Navigate "about:blank" 'need this to open IE correctly or 
use url
objExplorer.Toolbar = 0 'set to 1 to turn on IE toolbar
objExplorer.StatusBar = 0 'set to 1 to turn on
objExplorer.Width = 800
objExplorer.Height = 570
objExplorer.Left = 0
objExplorer.Top = 0
objExplorer.Visible = 1

Do While (objExplorer.Busy)
Loop

Set objDocument = objExplorer.Document
objDocument.Open

objDocument.Writeln "<html><head><title>Automatic Updates Installation
History</title></head>"
objDocument.Writeln "<body bgcolor='white'>"
objDocument.Writeln "<table width='100%'>"
objDocument.Writeln "<tr>"
objDocument.Writeln "<td width='20%'><b>Computer Name</b></td>"
objDocument.Writeln "<td width='50%'><b>Installed Update(s)</b></td>"
objDocument.Writeln "<td width='50%'><b>Date and Time Installed</b></td>"
objDocument.Writeln "</tr>"

strComputer = "."
Set objWMIService = GetObject("winmgmts:" _
    & "{impersonationLevel=impersonate}!\\" & strComputer & "\root\cimv2")
    'IE Event code=19 WinXP=4377
Set colLoggedEvents = objWMIService.ExecQuery _
        ("SELECT * FROM Win32_NTLogEvent WHERE Logfile = 'System' AND " _
            & "EventCode = '19' OR EventCode = '4377'")
Dim i As Long
For Each objEvent In colLoggedEvents
    dtmDate = objEvent.TimeWritten
    strReturn = WMIDateStringTodate(dtmDate)

    objDocument.Writeln "<tr>"
    objDocument.Writeln "<td width='20%'>" & objEvent.ComputerName
& "</td>"
    objDocument.Writeln "<td width='50%'>" & objEvent.Message & "</td>"
    objDocument.Writeln "<td width='50%'>" & strReturn & "</td>"
    objDocument.Writeln "</tr>"
    i = i + 1
Next
Debug.Print "no of events=" & i
objDocument.Writeln "</table>"
objDocument.Writeln "</body></html>"
'objDocument.Write()
objDocument.Close
MsgBox "finished"
Set objExplorer = Nothing
Set objDocument = Nothing
Set objWMIService = Nothing
Set colLoggedEvents = Nothing
Set objEvent = Nothing
End Sub
Function WMIDateStringTodate(dtmDate)
'sorts out odd date structure
    WMIDateStringTodate = CDate(Mid(dtmDate, 5, 2) & "/" & _
        Mid(dtmDate, 7, 2) & "/" & Left(dtmDate, 4) _
            & " " & Mid(dtmDate, 9, 2) & ":" & _
                Mid(dtmDate, 11, 2) & ":" & Mid(dtmDate, _
                    13, 2))
End Function


John W. Colby wrote:

>I am proposing a book to a publisher I just finished writing for, which will
>be about reusable code for Microsoft Access specifically, modules, classes,
>libraries and frameworks.  
>
>I was hoping to find a way to make the code accessible to different
>platforms should someone be more comfortable working in Word or Excel.
>While a com object would certainly accomplish this, it involves tools (and
>expertise) outside of the office suite.
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com 
>
>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys
>Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 11:09 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
>Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but ...
>
>(From Q230225)
>COM add-ins are a new feature in Microsoft Office 2000
>and are supported by all Office programs, including Outlook.
>
>Key benefits of COM add-ins include:
>
>COM add-ins run in-process with the host program, so custom code generally
>runs faster than code implemented in Visual Basic for Applications.
>
>The basic COM add-in architecture is consistent across all Office programs,
>whereas in previous versions of Office, each program had its own add-in
>architecture.
>
>You can create one COM add-in to use with more than one Office program.
>
>Example:
>
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/238228
>
>----
>
>Michael R. Mattys
>Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:46 PM
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
>  
>
>>No, I'm talking about an application framework where the code is 
>>available to any Office application.
>>
>>John W. Colby
>>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>
>>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
>>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
>>    
>>
>Mattys
>  
>
>>Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:16 PM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>>
>>
>>John,
>>
>>Are you talking about the designers?
>>
>>I thought you could have a common standard or class module within the 
>>dll, and just pass in the Application object as Object. Then just 
>>Select Case
>>    
>>
>to
>  
>
>>perform the appropriate action. I'll look again, but I'm pretty sure
>>    
>>
>that's
>  
>
>>it.
>>
>>----
>>
>>Michael R. Mattys
>>Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
>>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 8:36 PM
>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Holy cow, is that a mish mash or what?  The point of my questions 
>>>was to
>>>      
>>>
>>try
>>    
>>
>>>to find a common ground where code could be stored and run from all 
>>>of the various office applications.  Not to be it would seem.  It 
>>>does seem
>>>      
>>>
>>bizarre
>>    
>>
>>>that if I had some function that should be able to run in any of the 
>>>apps
>>>      
>>>
>>I
>>    
>>
>>>have to save the same thing in 5 different places so that Access, 
>>>Excel, Word, Powerpoint and Outlook could use it.
>>>
>>>John W. Colby
>>>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>>
>>>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
>>>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
>>>MartyConnelly
>>>Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 2:03 PM
>>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>>>
>>>
>>>In Excel you can store functions and modules as Public in .xla  
>>>files. Old Excel pre 97 didn't store the code in xla it looked like 
>>>an mde file. Matter of fact you can call these .xla files from 
>>>Access. I have called functions from the Excel Statistical and 
>>>Financial Analysis Packs.
>>>
>>>In Outlook 2000  and any code that you create in the Outlook VBA 
>>>environment is stored in a file named VBAProject.otm. Even though 
>>>you can copy the VBAProject.otm file, that's not a good way to 
>>>distribute Outlook macros company-wide. The recommended method is to 
>>>create an Outlook or Word  COM add-in. Talk to Shamil he has been 
>>>upgrading com addins to dotnet. http://www.outlookcode.com/d/vb.htm
>>>http://www.outlookcode.com/d/comaddins.htm
>>>
>>>Word uses templates either user or workgroup (to be shared) in a 
>>>specific folder A template  contain macros or other customizations 
>>>such as toolbars, it works better from some locations than others. 
>>>Again these com addin's can be used in place of macro's. see
>>>http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/index.htm
>>>
>>>Just for future reference this method is also partially available 
>>>under word and excel
>>>
>>>Under the Tools/References menu in the VBE, you need to check the
>>>      
>>>
>>Microsoft
>>    
>>
>>>Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 object library. 
>>>Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 C:\Program 
>>>Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VBA\VBA6\VBE6EXT.OLB
>>>
>>>
>>>The following code exports the contents of the Code Module to a file
>>>      
>>>
>>called
>>    
>>
>>>test.bas. This can be run from Word or Excel
>>>
>>>Application.VBE.ActiveVBProject.VBComponents("Module1").Export("test
>>>.b
>>>as")
>>>I think you can also import code this way but never tried it or got it
>>>to work or something.
>>>
>>>John W. Colby wrote:
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is 
>>>>there an equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of 
>>>>Office)?  Do these other platforms have references like we do in 
>>>>Access?  If so, can you reference an MDA/E to use code in it?
>>>>
>>>>John W. Colby
>>>>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>>>
>>>>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
>>>>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>--
>>>Marty Connelly
>>>Victoria, B.C.
>>>Canada
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>
>  
>

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Nov  8 14:51:40 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 12:51:40 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Remote Queries
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D06C@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIKEOMCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Just a note:

There might be a better way to handle access to the remote database. It will
not solve the problem if the database location is changed but it will handle
the security issue.

See:
http://www.able-consulting.com/MDAC/ADO/Connection/OLEDB_Providers.htm#OLEDB
ProviderForMicrosoftJet for ADO connection string

Set variables like:

Dim gstrConnection As String
Dim gconMYRemoteDB As ADODB.Command
Dim strSQL as String
Public rsMyRecordset As ADODB.Recordset

gstrConnection = "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;" & _
                 "Data Source=C:\Databases\Process.mdb;" & _
                 "Jet OLEDB:System Database=MySystem.mdw", _
                 "myUsername", "myPassword"

Set gconMYRemoteDB = New ADODB.Command

With gconMYRemoteDB
 .ActiveConnection = gstrConnection
 .CommandText = "Select * from MyTable Where MyFirstField = 1"
 .CommandType = adCmdText
End With

...or... if you are using a query from the remote DB that has a parameter
you would use something like this...

With gconMYRemoteDB
 .ActiveConnection = gstrConnection
 .CommandText = "qryMyQueryName"
 .CommandType = adCmdStoredProc
 .Parameters.Append .CreateParameter("NameofParameterToFill", adChar,
adParamInput, 10, strParameterValueToPass)
End With

'To fill a recordset
Set rsMyRecordset = New ADODB.Recordset

With rsMyRecordset
 .CursorLocation = adUseClient
 ' Note; dynamic and record locking. Mandatory for multi-user
 ' environments as MDBs are not as sophisticated as SQL servers
 ' and that implies code to manage record data changes or conflicts.
 .Open gconMYRemoteDB, , adOpenDynamic, adLockOptimistic
 If .BOF = False Or .EOF = False Then .MoveLast
End With

...or to simply execute a command...

strSQL = "INSERT INTO MyTable ( MyField1, MyField2 ) " & _
       "VALUES(" & Str(Variable1) & ", '" & Variable2 & "')"

gconMYRemoteDB.Execute strSQL

Set gconMYRemoteDB = Nothing

This way is ideal as you can have as many DBs open as you wish (within
system limits of course), all at once. This also manages the issues of
security. Hopefully that DBs do not wander around to frequently so that
their locations have to be continually managed. (Note that previous was done
from memory with limited reliability.)

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 7:45 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remote Queries


There are drawbacks.  I don't believe you can specificy a different .mdw or
username/password  with this type of statement.  Also, what if the Backend
is moved?  Instead of having to relink the tables, you'll have to change the
SQL in everything that uses this path.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 7:41 AM
To: Database Advisors
Subject: [AccessD] Remote Queries


Has anyone had experience with what is called a Remote Query?



This is where you write the complete path to a table in the Select statement
for a recordset or a form or report recordsource.



An example:



"SELECT * FROM tblProcessMain" _

            " IN 'C:\Databases\Process.mdb'" _

            " WHERE ProcessStage <> 'Closed'"



Using a remote query means that a Front End doesn't need to link to a Back
End.  It also allows a Front End to be distributed without table links and
queries - thus hiding the location of the Back End.



This is new to me!  What might be the pros/cons/problems with using Remote
Queries?



TIA,

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Nov  8 15:00:08 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 13:00:08 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
In-Reply-To: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF95A@DISABILITYINS01>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIEEONCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

WROX is gone?!! :-(  Just bought one of their VB.Net books.

I have so many of their books around here I feel like an advertisement.
There must be thousands of their book currently in the system as many local
bookstores still have many of their books on their shelves.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 9:49 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


LOL.  You know the old saying "Its not what you know but who you know.".

Martin gave my name to Wrox.  I worked on one book for them then they went
bankrupt (hopefully through no fault of mine!).  Pieces were bought by Wiley
including the book I worked on.  They then contacted me about another
project.

I want to do my own project though.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 12:30 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


How many book writers does that make within the list? An impressive group of
individuals.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 4:36 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


I am proposing a book to a publisher I just finished writing for, which will
be about reusable code for Microsoft Access specifically, modules, classes,
libraries and frameworks.

I was hoping to find a way to make the code accessible to different
platforms should someone be more comfortable working in Word or Excel.
While a com object would certainly accomplish this, it involves tools (and
expertise) outside of the office suite.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 11:09 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but ...

(From Q230225)
COM add-ins are a new feature in Microsoft Office 2000
and are supported by all Office programs, including Outlook.

Key benefits of COM add-ins include:

COM add-ins run in-process with the host program, so custom code generally
runs faster than code implemented in Visual Basic for Applications.

The basic COM add-in architecture is consistent across all Office programs,
whereas in previous versions of Office, each program had its own add-in
architecture.

You can create one COM add-in to use with more than one Office program.

Example:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/238228

----

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Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com



----- Original Message -----
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:46 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


> No, I'm talking about an application framework where the code is
> available to any Office application.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:16 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
> John,
>
> Are you talking about the designers?
>
> I thought you could have a common standard or class module within the
> dll, and just pass in the Application object as Object. Then just
> Select Case
to
> perform the appropriate action. I'll look again, but I'm pretty sure
that's
> it.
>
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 8:36 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
> > Holy cow, is that a mish mash or what?  The point of my questions
> > was to
> try
> > to find a common ground where code could be stored and run from all
> > of the various office applications.  Not to be it would seem.  It
> > does seem
> bizarre
> > that if I had some function that should be able to run in any of the
> > apps
> I
> > have to save the same thing in 5 different places so that Access,
> > Excel, Word, Powerpoint and Outlook could use it.
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > http://folding.stanford.edu/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> > MartyConnelly
> > Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 2:03 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
> >
> >
> > In Excel you can store functions and modules as Public in .xla
> > files. Old Excel pre 97 didn't store the code in xla it looked like
> > an mde file. Matter of fact you can call these .xla files from
> > Access. I have called functions from the Excel Statistical and
> > Financial Analysis Packs.
> >
> > In Outlook 2000  and any code that you create in the Outlook VBA
> > environment is stored in a file named VBAProject.otm. Even though
> > you can copy the VBAProject.otm file, that's not a good way to
> > distribute Outlook macros company-wide. The recommended method is to
> > create an Outlook or Word  COM add-in. Talk to Shamil he has been
> > upgrading com addins to dotnet. http://www.outlookcode.com/d/vb.htm
> > http://www.outlookcode.com/d/comaddins.htm
> >
> > Word uses templates either user or workgroup (to be shared) in a
> > specific folder A template  contain macros or other customizations
> > such as toolbars, it works better from some locations than others.
> > Again these com addin's can be used in place of macro's. see
> > http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/index.htm
> >
> > Just for future reference this method is also partially available
> > under word and excel
> >
> > Under the Tools/References menu in the VBE, you need to check the
> Microsoft
> > Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 object library.
> > Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 C:\Program
> > Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VBA\VBA6\VBE6EXT.OLB
> >
> >
> > The following code exports the contents of the Code Module to a file
> called
> > test.bas. This can be run from Word or Excel
> >
> > Application.VBE.ActiveVBProject.VBComponents("Module1").Export("test
> > .b
> > as")
> > I think you can also import code this way but never tried it or got it
> > to work or something.
> >
> > John W. Colby wrote:
> >
> > >In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is
> > >there an equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of
> > >Office)?  Do these other platforms have references like we do in
> > >Access?  If so, can you reference an MDA/E to use code in it?
> > >
> > >John W. Colby
> > >www.ColbyConsulting.com
> > >
> > >Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > >http://folding.stanford.edu/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Marty Connelly
> > Victoria, B.C.
> > Canada
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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From pedro at plex.nl  Mon Nov  8 15:35:36 2004
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 22:35:36 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] how to do this?
References: <200411050926.iA59QM8s014181@mailhostC.plex.net>
	<418BAEDB.7090507@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <001501c4c5da$e3c3d120$f8c581d5@pedro>

Thank you Marty, this is very usefull.

Pedro Janssen


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From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] how to do this?


> Well you can either store the Quantity on Hand or Calculate it
> Here is an article that describes the pros and cons, This will affect
> your overall design.
> Inventory Control: Quantity on Hand
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~allenbrowne/AppInventory.html
>
>
> pedro at plex.nl wrote:
>
> >Hello Group,
> >
> >What is the best way to do the following routine?
> >
> >I have a form with a field: [ArticleNumber]. I am scanning a barcode and
the Article Number is placed in the field. When the Article number is placed
this number must be processed as Follows; (in the table behind the form is
also a field: [Quantity]) the value of [Quantity] must be decreased with 1.
When the amount of [Quantity] reaches a certain minimum a message box must
appear.
> >
> >How can this been done.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Pedro Janssen
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Nov  8 15:41:50 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 16:41:50 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
In-Reply-To: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIEEONCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <001d01c4c5db$c59dcf60$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

I think Wiley bought some of the books and the trademark.  The book I worked
on still sells.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
(AccessD)
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 4:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


WROX is gone?!! :-(  Just bought one of their VB.Net books.

I have so many of their books around here I feel like an advertisement.
There must be thousands of their book currently in the system as many local
bookstores still have many of their books on their shelves.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 9:49 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


LOL.  You know the old saying "Its not what you know but who you know.".

Martin gave my name to Wrox.  I worked on one book for them then they went
bankrupt (hopefully through no fault of mine!).  Pieces were bought by Wiley
including the book I worked on.  They then contacted me about another
project.

I want to do my own project though.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 12:30 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


How many book writers does that make within the list? An impressive group of
individuals.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 4:36 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


I am proposing a book to a publisher I just finished writing for, which will
be about reusable code for Microsoft Access specifically, modules, classes,
libraries and frameworks.

I was hoping to find a way to make the code accessible to different
platforms should someone be more comfortable working in Word or Excel. While
a com object would certainly accomplish this, it involves tools (and
expertise) outside of the office suite.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 11:09 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but ...

(From Q230225)
COM add-ins are a new feature in Microsoft Office 2000
and are supported by all Office programs, including Outlook.

Key benefits of COM add-ins include:

COM add-ins run in-process with the host program, so custom code generally
runs faster than code implemented in Visual Basic for Applications.

The basic COM add-in architecture is consistent across all Office programs,
whereas in previous versions of Office, each program had its own add-in
architecture.

You can create one COM add-in to use with more than one Office program.

Example:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/238228

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----- Original Message -----
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:46 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


> No, I'm talking about an application framework where the code is 
> available to any Office application.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:16 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
> John,
>
> Are you talking about the designers?
>
> I thought you could have a common standard or class module within the 
> dll, and just pass in the Application object as Object. Then just 
> Select Case
to
> perform the appropriate action. I'll look again, but I'm pretty sure
that's
> it.
>
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 8:36 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
> > Holy cow, is that a mish mash or what?  The point of my questions 
> > was to
> try
> > to find a common ground where code could be stored and run from all 
> > of the various office applications.  Not to be it would seem.  It 
> > does seem
> bizarre
> > that if I had some function that should be able to run in any of the 
> > apps
> I
> > have to save the same thing in 5 different places so that Access, 
> > Excel, Word, Powerpoint and Outlook could use it.
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> > http://folding.stanford.edu/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> > MartyConnelly
> > Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 2:03 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
> >
> >
> > In Excel you can store functions and modules as Public in .xla 
> > files. Old Excel pre 97 didn't store the code in xla it looked like 
> > an mde file. Matter of fact you can call these .xla files from 
> > Access. I have called functions from the Excel Statistical and 
> > Financial Analysis Packs.
> >
> > In Outlook 2000  and any code that you create in the Outlook VBA 
> > environment is stored in a file named VBAProject.otm. Even though 
> > you can copy the VBAProject.otm file, that's not a good way to 
> > distribute Outlook macros company-wide. The recommended method is to 
> > create an Outlook or Word  COM add-in. Talk to Shamil he has been 
> > upgrading com addins to dotnet. http://www.outlookcode.com/d/vb.htm
> > http://www.outlookcode.com/d/comaddins.htm
> >
> > Word uses templates either user or workgroup (to be shared) in a 
> > specific folder A template  contain macros or other customizations 
> > such as toolbars, it works better from some locations than others. 
> > Again these com addin's can be used in place of macro's. see 
> > http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/index.htm
> >
> > Just for future reference this method is also partially available 
> > under word and excel
> >
> > Under the Tools/References menu in the VBE, you need to check the
> Microsoft
> > Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 object library. 
> > Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 C:\Program 
> > Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VBA\VBA6\VBE6EXT.OLB
> >
> >
> > The following code exports the contents of the Code Module to a file
> called
> > test.bas. This can be run from Word or Excel
> >
> > Application.VBE.ActiveVBProject.VBComponents("Module1").Export("test
> > .b
> > as")
> > I think you can also import code this way but never tried it or got 
> > it to work or something.
> >
> > John W. Colby wrote:
> >
> > >In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is 
> > >there an equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of 
> > >Office)?  Do these other platforms have references like we do in 
> > >Access?  If so, can you reference an MDA/E to use code in it?
> > >
> > >John W. Colby
> > >www.ColbyConsulting.com
> > >
> > >Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> > >http://folding.stanford.edu/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Marty Connelly
> > Victoria, B.C.
> > Canada
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
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From pedro at plex.nl  Mon Nov  8 15:47:56 2004
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 22:47:56 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] difficult query??
Message-ID: <004a01c4c5dc$9bef3a40$f8c581d5@pedro>

Hello Group,

i have a table [tblA] with 20 fields.
One of these fields [Number] has a value from 1 to 25.
I would like each record with a value in field [number] giving the ammount of records of the value of field Number in a new table. And the value of field [Number] must change into "X". All other fields must also be present.

for example

i have
tblA

ID   fieldA  Number etc etc etc
1       A           3


i need 
ID   fieldA  Number etc etc etc
1       A           X
1       A           X
1       A           X

Can this been done?

Thanks

Pedro Janssen


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Nov  8 16:04:35 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 14:04:35 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B58@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Didn't aPress buy some of them as well?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 1:42 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


I think Wiley bought some of the books and the trademark.  The book I
worked on still sells.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
(AccessD)
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 4:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


WROX is gone?!! :-(  Just bought one of their VB.Net books.

I have so many of their books around here I feel like an advertisement.
There must be thousands of their book currently in the system as many
local bookstores still have many of their books on their shelves.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 9:49 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


LOL.  You know the old saying "Its not what you know but who you know.".

Martin gave my name to Wrox.  I worked on one book for them then they
went bankrupt (hopefully through no fault of mine!).  Pieces were bought
by Wiley including the book I worked on.  They then contacted me about
another project.

I want to do my own project though.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 12:30 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


How many book writers does that make within the list? An impressive
group of individuals.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 4:36 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


I am proposing a book to a publisher I just finished writing for, which
will be about reusable code for Microsoft Access specifically, modules,
classes, libraries and frameworks.

I was hoping to find a way to make the code accessible to different
platforms should someone be more comfortable working in Word or Excel.
While a com object would certainly accomplish this, it involves tools
(and
expertise) outside of the office suite.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 11:09 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but ...

(From Q230225)
COM add-ins are a new feature in Microsoft Office 2000
and are supported by all Office programs, including Outlook.

Key benefits of COM add-ins include:

COM add-ins run in-process with the host program, so custom code
generally runs faster than code implemented in Visual Basic for
Applications.

The basic COM add-in architecture is consistent across all Office
programs, whereas in previous versions of Office, each program had its
own add-in architecture.

You can create one COM add-in to use with more than one Office program.

Example:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/238228

----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com



----- Original Message -----
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:46 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


> No, I'm talking about an application framework where the code is
> available to any Office application.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:16 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
> John,
>
> Are you talking about the designers?
>
> I thought you could have a common standard or class module within the
> dll, and just pass in the Application object as Object. Then just 
> Select Case
to
> perform the appropriate action. I'll look again, but I'm pretty sure
that's
> it.
>
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 8:36 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
> > Holy cow, is that a mish mash or what?  The point of my questions
> > was to
> try
> > to find a common ground where code could be stored and run from all
> > of the various office applications.  Not to be it would seem.  It 
> > does seem
> bizarre
> > that if I had some function that should be able to run in any of the
> > apps
> I
> > have to save the same thing in 5 different places so that Access,
> > Excel, Word, Powerpoint and Outlook could use it.
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > http://folding.stanford.edu/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> > MartyConnelly
> > Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 2:03 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
> >
> >
> > In Excel you can store functions and modules as Public in .xla
> > files. Old Excel pre 97 didn't store the code in xla it looked like 
> > an mde file. Matter of fact you can call these .xla files from 
> > Access. I have called functions from the Excel Statistical and 
> > Financial Analysis Packs.
> >
> > In Outlook 2000  and any code that you create in the Outlook VBA
> > environment is stored in a file named VBAProject.otm. Even though 
> > you can copy the VBAProject.otm file, that's not a good way to 
> > distribute Outlook macros company-wide. The recommended method is to

> > create an Outlook or Word  COM add-in. Talk to Shamil he has been 
> > upgrading com addins to dotnet. http://www.outlookcode.com/d/vb.htm
> > http://www.outlookcode.com/d/comaddins.htm
> >
> > Word uses templates either user or workgroup (to be shared) in a
> > specific folder A template  contain macros or other customizations 
> > such as toolbars, it works better from some locations than others. 
> > Again these com addin's can be used in place of macro's. see 
> > http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/index.htm
> >
> > Just for future reference this method is also partially available
> > under word and excel
> >
> > Under the Tools/References menu in the VBE, you need to check the
> Microsoft
> > Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 object library.
> > Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 C:\Program

> > Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VBA\VBA6\VBE6EXT.OLB
> >
> >
> > The following code exports the contents of the Code Module to a file
> called
> > test.bas. This can be run from Word or Excel
> >
> > Application.VBE.ActiveVBProject.VBComponents("Module1").Export("test
> > .b
> > as")
> > I think you can also import code this way but never tried it or got
> > it to work or something.
> >
> > John W. Colby wrote:
> >
> > >In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is
> > >there an equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of 
> > >Office)?  Do these other platforms have references like we do in 
> > >Access?  If so, can you reference an MDA/E to use code in it?
> > >
> > >John W. Colby
> > >www.ColbyConsulting.com
> > >
> > >Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > >http://folding.stanford.edu/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Marty Connelly
> > Victoria, B.C.
> > Canada
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > _______________________________________________
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
>
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From starkey at wanadoo.nl  Mon Nov  8 16:13:22 2004
From: starkey at wanadoo.nl (StaRKeY)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 23:13:22 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] difficult query??
In-Reply-To: <004a01c4c5dc$9bef3a40$f8c581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <20041108220911.E970EE7@smtp4.wanadoo.nl>

Hi Pedro, 

Must this be done in SQL/query or are you allowed to use a loop? 
If you can use a loop I'd use the number field in a nested loop (eg. 1 to
nr.) to add all records into a new table having the numberfield filled with
'X.


Regards, 
Eric Starkenburg 

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- 
Van: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Pedro Janssen 
Verzonden: maandag 8 november 2004 22:48 
Aan: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
Onderwerp: [AccessD] difficult query?? 

Hello Group, 

i have a table [tblA] with 20 fields. 
One of these fields [Number] has a value from 1 to 25. 
I would like each record with a value in field [number] giving the ammount
of records of the value of field Number in a new table. And the value of
field [Number] must change into "X". All other fields must also be present.

for example 

i have 
tblA 

ID   fieldA  Number etc etc etc 
1       A           3 


i need 
ID   fieldA  Number etc etc etc 
1       A           X 
1       A           X 
1       A           X 

Can this been done? 

Thanks 

Pedro Janssen 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Nov  8 16:26:38 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 17:26:38 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B58@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <002001c4c5e2$07f2a600$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

I'm not sure really.  Since mine was bought by Wiley I kind of lost interest
in the rest.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 5:05 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


Didn't aPress buy some of them as well?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 1:42 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


I think Wiley bought some of the books and the trademark.  The book I worked
on still sells.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
(AccessD)
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 4:00 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


WROX is gone?!! :-(  Just bought one of their VB.Net books.

I have so many of their books around here I feel like an advertisement.
There must be thousands of their book currently in the system as many local
bookstores still have many of their books on their shelves.

Jim

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Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 9:49 AM
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LOL.  You know the old saying "Its not what you know but who you know.".

Martin gave my name to Wrox.  I worked on one book for them then they went
bankrupt (hopefully through no fault of mine!).  Pieces were bought by Wiley
including the book I worked on.  They then contacted me about another
project.

I want to do my own project though.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 12:30 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


How many book writers does that make within the list? An impressive group of
individuals.

Jim

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Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 4:36 AM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


I am proposing a book to a publisher I just finished writing for, which will
be about reusable code for Microsoft Access specifically, modules, classes,
libraries and frameworks.

I was hoping to find a way to make the code accessible to different
platforms should someone be more comfortable working in Word or Excel. While
a com object would certainly accomplish this, it involves tools (and
expertise) outside of the office suite.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 11:09 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but ...

(From Q230225)
COM add-ins are a new feature in Microsoft Office 2000
and are supported by all Office programs, including Outlook.

Key benefits of COM add-ins include:

COM add-ins run in-process with the host program, so custom code generally
runs faster than code implemented in Visual Basic for Applications.

The basic COM add-in architecture is consistent across all Office programs,
whereas in previous versions of Office, each program had its own add-in
architecture.

You can create one COM add-in to use with more than one Office program.

Example:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/238228

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----- Original Message -----
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:46 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


> No, I'm talking about an application framework where the code is 
> available to any Office application.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:16 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
> John,
>
> Are you talking about the designers?
>
> I thought you could have a common standard or class module within the 
> dll, and just pass in the Application object as Object. Then just 
> Select Case
to
> perform the appropriate action. I'll look again, but I'm pretty sure
that's
> it.
>
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
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>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 8:36 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
> > Holy cow, is that a mish mash or what?  The point of my questions 
> > was to
> try
> > to find a common ground where code could be stored and run from all 
> > of the various office applications.  Not to be it would seem.  It 
> > does seem
> bizarre
> > that if I had some function that should be able to run in any of the 
> > apps
> I
> > have to save the same thing in 5 different places so that Access, 
> > Excel, Word, Powerpoint and Outlook could use it.
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> > http://folding.stanford.edu/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> > MartyConnelly
> > Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 2:03 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
> >
> >
> > In Excel you can store functions and modules as Public in .xla 
> > files. Old Excel pre 97 didn't store the code in xla it looked like 
> > an mde file. Matter of fact you can call these .xla files from 
> > Access. I have called functions from the Excel Statistical and 
> > Financial Analysis Packs.
> >
> > In Outlook 2000  and any code that you create in the Outlook VBA 
> > environment is stored in a file named VBAProject.otm. Even though 
> > you can copy the VBAProject.otm file, that's not a good way to 
> > distribute Outlook macros company-wide. The recommended method is to

> > create an Outlook or Word  COM add-in. Talk to Shamil he has been
> > upgrading com addins to dotnet. http://www.outlookcode.com/d/vb.htm
> > http://www.outlookcode.com/d/comaddins.htm
> >
> > Word uses templates either user or workgroup (to be shared) in a 
> > specific folder A template  contain macros or other customizations 
> > such as toolbars, it works better from some locations than others. 
> > Again these com addin's can be used in place of macro's. see 
> > http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/index.htm
> >
> > Just for future reference this method is also partially available 
> > under word and excel
> >
> > Under the Tools/References menu in the VBE, you need to check the
> Microsoft
> > Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 object library. 
> > Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 C:\Program

> > Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VBA\VBA6\VBE6EXT.OLB
> >
> >
> > The following code exports the contents of the Code Module to a file
> called
> > test.bas. This can be run from Word or Excel
> >
> > Application.VBE.ActiveVBProject.VBComponents("Module1").Export("test
> > .b
> > as")
> > I think you can also import code this way but never tried it or got 
> > it to work or something.
> >
> > John W. Colby wrote:
> >
> > >In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is 
> > >there an equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of 
> > >Office)?  Do these other platforms have references like we do in 
> > >Access?  If so, can you reference an MDA/E to use code in it?
> > >
> > >John W. Colby
> > >www.ColbyConsulting.com
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > Canada
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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Mon Nov  8 18:27:51 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 01:27:51 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Powerpoint Autoexec?
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B54FC@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

How can I automaticaly run a VBA sub routine in Powerpoint when the
presentation is loaded???
Like the auotexec macro in Access.
 
thx
 
 

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Nov  8 22:44:01 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 20:44:01 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Powerpoint Autoexec?
References: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B54FC@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <41904B11.7060506@shaw.ca>

Powerpoint mvps
http://www.mvps.org/links.html#PowerPoint
Here is how to start from Access
http://www.mvps.org/skp/vb/vbppt001.htm
or look through here
http://www.mvps.org/links.html#PowerPoint

Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:

>How can I automaticaly run a VBA sub routine in Powerpoint when the
>presentation is loaded???
>Like the auotexec macro in Access.
> 
>thx
> 
> 
>
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From ebarro at afsweb.com  Mon Nov  8 22:44:29 2004
From: ebarro at afsweb.com (Eric Barro)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 20:44:29 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] leveraging the power of the database versus code
In-Reply-To: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B54FC@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
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Cross-posted to dba-SQLServer list:

Ok I need to generate a crosstab query (aka pivot table) using SQL server. The problem with SQL server is that it can't handle dynamically generated columns. In other words you would need to hard code the names of the columns which assumes that you know them beforehand. However, in most cases, the column values could not be determined ahead of time. Access of course handles this with great aplomb. But SQL server? Well...that's another story. :)

So...I found a way to do this utilizing a stored procedure that dynamically generates the SELECT statements and uses a temporary table to store the values. You'd think that would be the end of the story...BUT the dba balked at the proposed method since according to him SQL server was not designed to handle this sort of stuff and that the dynamically generated SELECT statements would be highly inefficient.

My question then to the group is this...

Is it not better to let SQL server handle the load and the processing on the server side rather than let the client side handle all that processing?

To take an example:

State	Product1	Product2	Product3
CA	1000		500		200
MA	900		200		450
NV	600		600		600

where Products are dynamically generated

The method I discovered to produce the desired results using a stored procedure worked. The suggestion I got was to handle all of that processing in code (outside of SQL server). Which means that in order to produce the desired results above, the code would need to grab the recordset from SQL server, and for each column generate the appropriate SELECT statement to return the values to either populate an in-memory array or post the results to a table from which it can read the final results.

Now...given that scenario isn't it more efficient to let SQL server handle all of that processing given that it handles all of the processing on the server side instead of client side basically resulting in less round trips from the web server to the SQL server?

I would appreciate feedback from you guys.





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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Nov  8 22:52:48 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 15:52:48 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Currency as a percentage
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Hey Deano
Thanks Gustav and Deano

You guys are legends

I have done it a million times - but it's one of those copy and paste deals
for me
I neven learn that stuff - toooooo sanguine :-))

See ya'll
Many thanks again
DD


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dean Ellis
Sent: Tuesday, 2 November 2004 10:10 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: Currency as a percentage


Dazza,

The formula is fairly simple. Just divide 5 (being the percentage) by 100
and multiply it by the dollar amount. This will give the percentage og the
dollar amount in dollars.

Putting it into context.

Percent field = txtpercent
Dollar field = txtdollar
discount field = txtdiscount

txtdiscount = txtdollar * (txtpercent/100)

Cheers

Dean

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Sent: Tuesday, 2 November 2004 9:46 PM
To: AccessD List
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Currency as a percentage


Hello all

Can never remember how to do percentages off the top of my head <sigh>

I have a a form that allows users to put in any Dollar amount for a discount
I also want to put in another txtBox and allow users to type in say...5 and
have the machine calculate discounts in Dollars from the "5" value

Thus have access caculate (in this case) 5 percent of the whole and then put
that currency amount (EG 5% of $100.00 = $5.00) of $5.00 in the discount
field

Make sense?

many thanks in advance

Darren

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From actebs at actebs.com.au  Mon Nov  8 23:19:43 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 16:19:43 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Word Docs Bookmark Check
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BD1@starfleet.unknown.local>

Hi Guys,

I am doing a merge to word using bookmarks. There are numerous word docs associated with activities and the user sets this up via the app setup screen. What I need to check is whether the bookmark for that activity type exists within the user selected document. Can this be done?

Basically the procedure is as follows:

a) User nominates a document to an activity
b) User processes a transaction which instigates the word merge process which saves the doc with merged data

Before I merge I need to check whether all the bookmarks in the doc exist, otherwise the wrong document has been selected for that activity...

I hope I explained it well enough...

Regards
Vlad



From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Nov  8 23:35:21 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 21:35:21 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
In-Reply-To: <418FC86C.5000306@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIMEPACHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Marty:

The code and explanation can now be found at:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnclinic/ht
ml/scripting06112002.asp

Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 11:27 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office


It gets even more complex from .dotnet framework calling Com via PIA
with Word 2003 and Excel.2003
You might only get away with this, using Application Objects, available
in most MS object models.
For example this code should be callable from any VBA editor Word,
Excel, Access or PowerPoint
Instead of InternetExplorer.application below you could use
Word.Application etc

Try this code for a chuckle useful if you have to display large amount
of scrollable text in Access.

This will need WMI installed on the machine, either WinXP or win2000 for
the WMI portion of
example to run. Win 98 can install WMI 1.5 but may not work

Sub testIE()
'------------------
' qfcheck.vbs   ver 1.0  3-Dec-2003
' Check Automatic Update Installation History for Hotfixes
'------------------
'http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?
url=/technet/scriptcenter/logs/scrlog08.asp


Dim objExplorer As Object
Dim objDocument As Object
Dim strComputer As String
Dim objWMIService As Object
Dim colLoggedEvents As Object
Dim objEvent As Object
Dim dtmDate As Variant
Dim strReturn As String

Set objExplorer = CreateObject("InternetExplorer.Application")
objExplorer.Navigate "about:blank" 'need this to open IE correctly or
use url
objExplorer.Toolbar = 0 'set to 1 to turn on IE toolbar
objExplorer.StatusBar = 0 'set to 1 to turn on
objExplorer.Width = 800
objExplorer.Height = 570
objExplorer.Left = 0
objExplorer.Top = 0
objExplorer.Visible = 1

Do While (objExplorer.Busy)
Loop

Set objDocument = objExplorer.Document
objDocument.Open

objDocument.Writeln "<html><head><title>Automatic Updates Installation
History</title></head>"
objDocument.Writeln "<body bgcolor='white'>"
objDocument.Writeln "<table width='100%'>"
objDocument.Writeln "<tr>"
objDocument.Writeln "<td width='20%'><b>Computer Name</b></td>"
objDocument.Writeln "<td width='50%'><b>Installed Update(s)</b></td>"
objDocument.Writeln "<td width='50%'><b>Date and Time Installed</b></td>"
objDocument.Writeln "</tr>"

strComputer = "."
Set objWMIService = GetObject("winmgmts:" _
    & "{impersonationLevel=impersonate}!\\" & strComputer & "\root\cimv2")
    'IE Event code=19 WinXP=4377
Set colLoggedEvents = objWMIService.ExecQuery _
        ("SELECT * FROM Win32_NTLogEvent WHERE Logfile = 'System' AND " _
            & "EventCode = '19' OR EventCode = '4377'")
Dim i As Long
For Each objEvent In colLoggedEvents
    dtmDate = objEvent.TimeWritten
    strReturn = WMIDateStringTodate(dtmDate)

    objDocument.Writeln "<tr>"
    objDocument.Writeln "<td width='20%'>" & objEvent.ComputerName
& "</td>"
    objDocument.Writeln "<td width='50%'>" & objEvent.Message & "</td>"
    objDocument.Writeln "<td width='50%'>" & strReturn & "</td>"
    objDocument.Writeln "</tr>"
    i = i + 1
Next
Debug.Print "no of events=" & i
objDocument.Writeln "</table>"
objDocument.Writeln "</body></html>"
'objDocument.Write()
objDocument.Close
MsgBox "finished"
Set objExplorer = Nothing
Set objDocument = Nothing
Set objWMIService = Nothing
Set colLoggedEvents = Nothing
Set objEvent = Nothing
End Sub
Function WMIDateStringTodate(dtmDate)
'sorts out odd date structure
    WMIDateStringTodate = CDate(Mid(dtmDate, 5, 2) & "/" & _
        Mid(dtmDate, 7, 2) & "/" & Left(dtmDate, 4) _
            & " " & Mid(dtmDate, 9, 2) & ":" & _
                Mid(dtmDate, 11, 2) & ":" & Mid(dtmDate, _
                    13, 2))
End Function


John W. Colby wrote:

>I am proposing a book to a publisher I just finished writing for, which
will
>be about reusable code for Microsoft Access specifically, modules, classes,
>libraries and frameworks.
>
>I was hoping to find a way to make the code accessible to different
>platforms should someone be more comfortable working in Word or Excel.
>While a com object would certainly accomplish this, it involves tools (and
>expertise) outside of the office suite.
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys
>Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 11:09 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
>Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but ...
>
>(From Q230225)
>COM add-ins are a new feature in Microsoft Office 2000
>and are supported by all Office programs, including Outlook.
>
>Key benefits of COM add-ins include:
>
>COM add-ins run in-process with the host program, so custom code generally
>runs faster than code implemented in Visual Basic for Applications.
>
>The basic COM add-in architecture is consistent across all Office programs,
>whereas in previous versions of Office, each program had its own add-in
>architecture.
>
>You can create one COM add-in to use with more than one Office program.
>
>Example:
>
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/238228
>
>----
>
>Michael R. Mattys
>Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:46 PM
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>
>
>
>
>>No, I'm talking about an application framework where the code is
>>available to any Office application.
>>
>>John W. Colby
>>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>
>>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
>>
>>
>Mattys
>
>
>>Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:16 PM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>>
>>
>>John,
>>
>>Are you talking about the designers?
>>
>>I thought you could have a common standard or class module within the
>>dll, and just pass in the Application object as Object. Then just
>>Select Case
>>
>>
>to
>
>
>>perform the appropriate action. I'll look again, but I'm pretty sure
>>
>>
>that's
>
>
>>it.
>>
>>----
>>
>>Michael R. Mattys
>>Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
>>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 8:36 PM
>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Holy cow, is that a mish mash or what?  The point of my questions
>>>was to
>>>
>>>
>>try
>>
>>
>>>to find a common ground where code could be stored and run from all
>>>of the various office applications.  Not to be it would seem.  It
>>>does seem
>>>
>>>
>>bizarre
>>
>>
>>>that if I had some function that should be able to run in any of the
>>>apps
>>>
>>>
>>I
>>
>>
>>>have to save the same thing in 5 different places so that Access,
>>>Excel, Word, Powerpoint and Outlook could use it.
>>>
>>>John W. Colby
>>>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>>
>>>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>>>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
>>>MartyConnelly
>>>Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 2:03 PM
>>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
>>>
>>>
>>>In Excel you can store functions and modules as Public in .xla
>>>files. Old Excel pre 97 didn't store the code in xla it looked like
>>>an mde file. Matter of fact you can call these .xla files from
>>>Access. I have called functions from the Excel Statistical and
>>>Financial Analysis Packs.
>>>
>>>In Outlook 2000  and any code that you create in the Outlook VBA
>>>environment is stored in a file named VBAProject.otm. Even though
>>>you can copy the VBAProject.otm file, that's not a good way to
>>>distribute Outlook macros company-wide. The recommended method is to
>>>create an Outlook or Word  COM add-in. Talk to Shamil he has been
>>>upgrading com addins to dotnet. http://www.outlookcode.com/d/vb.htm
>>>http://www.outlookcode.com/d/comaddins.htm
>>>
>>>Word uses templates either user or workgroup (to be shared) in a
>>>specific folder A template  contain macros or other customizations
>>>such as toolbars, it works better from some locations than others.
>>>Again these com addin's can be used in place of macro's. see
>>>http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/index.htm
>>>
>>>Just for future reference this method is also partially available
>>>under word and excel
>>>
>>>Under the Tools/References menu in the VBE, you need to check the
>>>
>>>
>>Microsoft
>>
>>
>>>Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 object library.
>>>Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications Extensibility 5.3 C:\Program
>>>Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VBA\VBA6\VBE6EXT.OLB
>>>
>>>
>>>The following code exports the contents of the Code Module to a file
>>>
>>>
>>called
>>
>>
>>>test.bas. This can be run from Word or Excel
>>>
>>>Application.VBE.ActiveVBProject.VBComponents("Module1").Export("test
>>>.b
>>>as")
>>>I think you can also import code this way but never tried it or got it
>>>to work or something.
>>>
>>>John W. Colby wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is
>>>>there an equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of
>>>>Office)?  Do these other platforms have references like we do in
>>>>Access?  If so, can you reference an MDA/E to use code in it?
>>>>
>>>>John W. Colby
>>>>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>>>
>>>>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>>>>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>Victoria, B.C.
>>>Canada
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Tue Nov  9 02:23:31 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 09:23:31 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Powerpoint Autoexec?
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B54FE@stekelbes.ithelps.local>


Hehe, long search.

Conclusion, there no such thing as a autoexec in a Powerpoint
presentation.

A workaround is to create a add-in which can contain a Autorun
function...

Erwin

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 5:44 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Powerpoint Autoexec?

Powerpoint mvps
http://www.mvps.org/links.html#PowerPoint
Here is how to start from Access
http://www.mvps.org/skp/vb/vbppt001.htm
or look through here
http://www.mvps.org/links.html#PowerPoint

Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:

>How can I automaticaly run a VBA sub routine in Powerpoint when the 
>presentation is loaded???
>Like the auotexec macro in Access.
> 
>thx
> 
> 
>
>Erwin Craps
>
>Zaakvoerder
>
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>
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From pedro at plex.nl  Tue Nov  9 10:03:50 2004
From: pedro at plex.nl (pedro at plex.nl)
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 10:03:50 (MET)
Subject: [AccessD] difficult query??
Message-ID: <200411090903.iA993owv021305@mailhostC.plex.net>

Hello Eric,

it doesn't matter how this is done, as a query expression or in code.
Only i don't have an idea how to do this.

Pedro Janssen


In antwoord op:

> From: "StaRKeY" <starkey at wanadoo.nl>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 23:13:22 +0100
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] difficult query??
> 
> 
> Hi Pedro, 
> 
> Must this be done in SQL/query or are you allowed to use a loop? 
> If you can use a loop I'd use the number field in a nested loop (eg. 1 to
> nr.) to add all records into a new table having the numberfield filled with
> 'X.
> 
> 
> Regards, 
> Eric Starkenburg 
> 
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- 
> Van: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Pedro Janssen 
> Verzonden: maandag 8 november 2004 22:48 
> Aan: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
> Onderwerp: [AccessD] difficult query?? 
> 
> Hello Group, 
> 
> i have a table [tblA] with 20 fields. 
> One of these fields [Number] has a value from 1 to 25. 
> I would like each record with a value in field [number] giving the ammount
> of records of the value of field Number in a new table. And the value of
> field [Number] must change into "X". All other fields must also be present.
> 
> for example 
> 
> i have 
> tblA 
> 
> ID   fieldA  Number etc etc etc 
> 1       A           3 
> 
> 
> i need 
> ID   fieldA  Number etc etc etc 
> 1       A           X 
> 1       A           X 
> 1       A           X 
> 
> Can this been done? 
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Pedro Janssen 
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From pedro at plex.nl  Tue Nov  9 10:04:04 2004
From: pedro at plex.nl (pedro at plex.nl)
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 10:04:04 (MET)
Subject: [AccessD] difficult query??
Message-ID: <200411090904.iA9944lu021323@mailhostC.plex.net>

Hello Eric,

it doesn't matter how this is done, as a query expression or in code.
Only i don't have an idea how to do this.

Pedro Janssen


In antwoord op:

> From: "StaRKeY" <starkey at wanadoo.nl>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 23:13:22 +0100
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] difficult query??
> 
> 
> Hi Pedro, 
> 
> Must this be done in SQL/query or are you allowed to use a loop? 
> If you can use a loop I'd use the number field in a nested loop (eg. 1 to
> nr.) to add all records into a new table having the numberfield filled with
> 'X.
> 
> 
> Regards, 
> Eric Starkenburg 
> 
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- 
> Van: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Pedro Janssen 
> Verzonden: maandag 8 november 2004 22:48 
> Aan: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
> Onderwerp: [AccessD] difficult query?? 
> 
> Hello Group, 
> 
> i have a table [tblA] with 20 fields. 
> One of these fields [Number] has a value from 1 to 25. 
> I would like each record with a value in field [number] giving the ammount
> of records of the value of field Number in a new table. And the value of
> field [Number] must change into "X". All other fields must also be present.
> 
> for example 
> 
> i have 
> tblA 
> 
> ID   fieldA  Number etc etc etc 
> 1       A           3 
> 
> 
> i need 
> ID   fieldA  Number etc etc etc 
> 1       A           X 
> 1       A           X 
> 1       A           X 
> 
> Can this been done? 
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Pedro Janssen 
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov  9 05:02:45 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:02:45 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K, Export to Excel
In-Reply-To: <b874372a041104145114a01aa2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b874372a041104145114a01aa2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6811558249.20041109120245@cactus.dk>

Hi Francisco

Try setting the format property of the field in the query to "Number"
and two decimals. If this doesn't help, you may need to fall back to
use Format() in an expression.

/gustav


> A friend has a query, and is exporting the results to an excel file,
> for some reason the numeric (dollar) values are converted to string in
> excel (the single ' quote problem) it's easy enough to convert excel
> to see it as a numeric but why?

> thanks,
> -- 
> -Francisco



From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov  9 05:06:59 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:06:59 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Checking for "holes" in a sequence using SQL
In-Reply-To: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F8E@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
References: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F8E@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <14411812815.20041109120659@cactus.dk>

Hi Joe

"Bad" may tend to be too strong. At least no one would call you a "bad
boy" for this merit only. 
How about unnecessary?

/gustav


> Is it bad for to store the actual data, when using text, if they all share
> the same prefix?



From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov  9 05:56:57 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:56:57 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] difficult query??
In-Reply-To: <004a01c4c5dc$9bef3a40$f8c581d5@pedro>
References: <004a01c4c5dc$9bef3a40$f8c581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <17114810796.20041109125657@cactus.dk>

Hi Pedro

> i have a table [tblA] with 20 fields.
> One of these fields [Number] has a value from 1 to 25.
> I would like each record with a value in field [number] giving the ammount of records of the value of field Number in a new table. And the value of field [Number] must change into "X". All other
> fields must also be present.

> for example

> i have
> tblA

> ID   fieldA  Number etc etc etc
> 1       A           3


> i need 
> ID   fieldA  Number etc etc etc
> 1       A           X
> 1       A           X
> 1       A           X

> Can this been done?

Yes. Create a table, tbzMultiply, with one integer field, Factor, and
create records from 1 to 25 or more, say, 100.

Then use:

  SELECT
    tblA.ID,
    tblA.FieldA,
    ...
    tblA.FieldZ,
    "X" AS [Number]
  FROM
    tblA,
    tbzMultiply
  WHERE
    (tbzMultiply.Factor Between 1 And tblA.[Number])
  ORDER BY
    tblA.ID;

Note the missing join. This is a Cartesian (multiplying) query.

/gustav



From Susan.Klos at fldoe.org  Tue Nov  9 07:12:41 2004
From: Susan.Klos at fldoe.org (Klos, Susan)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 08:12:41 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Missing Months in a crosstab query
Message-ID: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE73940@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.int>

I may have asked this before Jim and I am sorry for the repetition.  I have
been gone for a week or so and am just now trying to sort through my emails.
I have printed your reply now and will use it right away to see how it
works. Thanks for your reply and my apologies to all for the duplicate
question. 

Susan Klos
Senior Database Analyst
Evaluation and Reporting
Florida Department of Education
850-245-0708 
sc 205-0708
 

-----Original Message-----
 
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 13:09:23 -0600 
From: "Hale, Jim" <Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Missing months in a crosstab query
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID:
	<6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337203 at corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Didn't you ask about this a couiple of weeks ago? Did you try this?

"Check out p 157 of Getz's ADH. He suggests using the IN clause. EX:
PIVOT column-headings-field [IN(value1[,value2[,...etc]])]"

Jim Hale




From carbonnb at gmail.com  Tue Nov  9 08:45:11 2004
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 09:45:11 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Word Docs Bookmark Check
In-Reply-To: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BD1@starfleet.unknown.local>
References: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BD1@starfleet.unknown.local>
Message-ID: <e04a6c9204110906455d44be3b@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 16:19:43 +1100, ACTEBS <actebs at actebs.com.au> wrote:

> Before I merge I need to check whether all the bookmarks in the doc exist, otherwise the wrong document has been selected for that activity...

Vlad,

I'm not sure how you are correlating your bookmarks with what the user
chooses, but you can use a line like:

doc.Bookmarks.Exists("BookmarkName")

to see if the bookmark exists in the document that you are working
with, assuming of course, that the doc variable references the Word
document that you are working with.

-- 
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Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From actebs at actebs.com.au  Tue Nov  9 09:14:13 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 02:14:13 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Word Docs Bookmark Check
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BD2@starfleet.unknown.local>

Brian,

I wish I had known about the Exists property. 

I figured out a solution where I created a table that housed the names of the bookmarks I was looking for, then I pass the recordset to the function and if it errors out with 5941 I trap it and know the BM is not there. It's quick and dirty, but does the job. The result is the following: (Hopefully it will help someone else)

Function FindBMark(strWordDocPath As String, mRst As DAO.Recordset) As Boolean
On Error GoTo Err_FindBMark
    
    Dim WordObj As Word.Application
    
    FindBMark = True
    gBMark = True
    
     Set WordObj = CreateObject("Word.Application")
    WordObj.Documents.Open strWordDocPath
    
    WordObj.Visible = False

   ' Find the bookmark
   
    mRst.MoveFirst
        Do Until mRst.EOF
            With mRst
                WordObj.ActiveDocument.Bookmarks(!FieldToCheck).Select
            End With
            mRst.MoveNext
        Loop

   ' Close the document.
    WordObj.ActiveDocument.Close

   ' Quit Microsoft Word and clean up 
    WordObj.Quit
    Set WordObj = Nothing
   
Exit_FindBMark:
    Exit Function

Err_FindBMark:
    Select Case Err
        Case 5941
            FindBMark = False
            gBMark = False
            WordObj.ActiveDocument.Close
            WordObj.Quit
            Set WordObj = Nothing
        Case Else
            MsgBox Err.Description
            Resume Exit_FindBMark
    End Select
End Function

Thanks Brian, I'll use your suggestion somewhere else in the app, you've saved me a bit of coding.

Vlad

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Bryan
Carbonnell
Sent: Wednesday, 10 November 2004 1:45 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Word Docs Bookmark Check


On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 16:19:43 +1100, ACTEBS <actebs at actebs.com.au> wrote:

> Before I merge I need to check whether all the bookmarks in the doc exist, otherwise the wrong document has been selected for that activity...

Vlad,

I'm not sure how you are correlating your bookmarks with what the user
chooses, but you can use a line like:

doc.Bookmarks.Exists("BookmarkName")

to see if the bookmark exists in the document that you are working
with, assuming of course, that the doc variable references the Word
document that you are working with.

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Nov  9 09:38:40 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 10:38:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
Message-ID: <20041109153909.LYYS2451.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Is there any way to determine "what" event is triggered when without adding
a lot of very specific Debug.Print statements to each possible event
procedure? 
 
I'm wondering if there isn't some generic property that will define the
calling event procedure? Is there such a critter? 
 
For instance, if a command button's Click event is triggered, is there some
generic way I can print "Click" to the Immediate window? I know I can do
this easily enough by adding a Debug.Print "click" statement myself, but is
there a GENERIC statement that I could add to any event that would define
the calling event? 
 
I hope I'm making myself clear. 
 
Susan H. 


From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Nov  9 09:52:08 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 10:52:08 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF961@DISABILITYINS01>

Not as far as I know.  That would be handy though.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 10:39 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] event identification


Is there any way to determine "what" event is triggered when without adding
a lot of very specific Debug.Print statements to each possible event
procedure? 
 
I'm wondering if there isn't some generic property that will define the
calling event procedure? Is there such a critter? 
 
For instance, if a command button's Click event is triggered, is there some
generic way I can print "Click" to the Immediate window? I know I can do
this easily enough by adding a Debug.Print "click" statement myself, but is
there a GENERIC statement that I could add to any event that would define
the calling event? 
 
I hope I'm making myself clear. 
 
Susan H. 
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Nov  9 09:57:04 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 09:57:04 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Remote Queries
In-Reply-To: <22823002.1099948104142.JavaMail.root@sniper12.usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <000001c4c674$c255ded0$de1811d8@danwaters>

For more information on Remote Queries, you can go to:
http://www.vb123.com/Toolshed/02_accvb/remotequeries.htm

What I've done is to create a function that defines the path to the BE db.
Each remote query uses that function.  So if the path to the BE changes, I
only need to change it in one place.  For multiple BE's you could set up
multiple functions.

Jim - The ADO connection appears, for my purposes, to be equivalent.
However this is an example I will keep!

Dan Waters
ProMation Systems

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
(AccessD)
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 2:52 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remote Queries

Just a note:

There might be a better way to handle access to the remote database. It will
not solve the problem if the database location is changed but it will handle
the security issue.

See:
http://www.able-consulting.com/MDAC/ADO/Connection/OLEDB_Providers.htm#OLEDB
ProviderForMicrosoftJet for ADO connection string

Set variables like:

Dim gstrConnection As String
Dim gconMYRemoteDB As ADODB.Command
Dim strSQL as String
Public rsMyRecordset As ADODB.Recordset

gstrConnection = "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;" & _
                 "Data Source=C:\Databases\Process.mdb;" & _
                 "Jet OLEDB:System Database=MySystem.mdw", _
                 "myUsername", "myPassword"

Set gconMYRemoteDB = New ADODB.Command

With gconMYRemoteDB
 .ActiveConnection = gstrConnection
 .CommandText = "Select * from MyTable Where MyFirstField = 1"
 .CommandType = adCmdText
End With

...or... if you are using a query from the remote DB that has a parameter
you would use something like this...

With gconMYRemoteDB
 .ActiveConnection = gstrConnection
 .CommandText = "qryMyQueryName"
 .CommandType = adCmdStoredProc
 .Parameters.Append .CreateParameter("NameofParameterToFill", adChar,
adParamInput, 10, strParameterValueToPass)
End With

'To fill a recordset
Set rsMyRecordset = New ADODB.Recordset

With rsMyRecordset
 .CursorLocation = adUseClient
 ' Note; dynamic and record locking. Mandatory for multi-user
 ' environments as MDBs are not as sophisticated as SQL servers
 ' and that implies code to manage record data changes or conflicts.
 .Open gconMYRemoteDB, , adOpenDynamic, adLockOptimistic
 If .BOF = False Or .EOF = False Then .MoveLast
End With

...or to simply execute a command...

strSQL = "INSERT INTO MyTable ( MyField1, MyField2 ) " & _
       "VALUES(" & Str(Variable1) & ", '" & Variable2 & "')"

gconMYRemoteDB.Execute strSQL

Set gconMYRemoteDB = Nothing

This way is ideal as you can have as many DBs open as you wish (within
system limits of course), all at once. This also manages the issues of
security. Hopefully that DBs do not wander around to frequently so that
their locations have to be continually managed. (Note that previous was done
from memory with limited reliability.)

HTH
Jim

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DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 7:45 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remote Queries


There are drawbacks.  I don't believe you can specificy a different .mdw or
username/password  with this type of statement.  Also, what if the Backend
is moved?  Instead of having to relink the tables, you'll have to change the
SQL in everything that uses this path.

Drew

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From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 7:41 AM
To: Database Advisors
Subject: [AccessD] Remote Queries


Has anyone had experience with what is called a Remote Query?



This is where you write the complete path to a table in the Select statement
for a recordset or a form or report recordsource.



An example:



"SELECT * FROM tblProcessMain" _

            " IN 'C:\Databases\Process.mdb'" _

            " WHERE ProcessStage <> 'Closed'"



Using a remote query means that a Front End doesn't need to link to a Back
End.  It also allows a Front End to be distributed without table links and
queries - thus hiding the location of the Back End.



This is new to me!  What might be the pros/cons/problems with using Remote
Queries?



TIA,

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Nov  9 10:00:06 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 10:00:06 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
In-Reply-To: <26791971.1100015020089.JavaMail.root@sniper12.usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <000101c4c675$2ebeb560$de1811d8@danwaters>

I asked this question once because I wanted to be able to record the
procedure name (automatically) when logging errors.  Mike Gunderloy
responded and said that the MS Access developers tried but were unable to
develop a reliable function to do that.

Rats!

Dan Waters
ProMation Systems

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 9:39 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] event identification

Is there any way to determine "what" event is triggered when without adding
a lot of very specific Debug.Print statements to each possible event
procedure? 
 
I'm wondering if there isn't some generic property that will define the
calling event procedure? Is there such a critter? 
 
For instance, if a command button's Click event is triggered, is there some
generic way I can print "Click" to the Immediate window? I know I can do
this easily enough by adding a Debug.Print "click" statement myself, but is
there a GENERIC statement that I could add to any event that would define
the calling event? 
 
I hope I'm making myself clear. 
 
Susan H. 
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Tue Nov  9 10:28:57 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 10:28:57 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Missing Months in a crosstab query
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233720B@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

I didn't intend for my reply to sound harsh, sorry. I was only curious
whether my solution had worked. I hope so.
Regards,
Jim Hale 

-----Original Message-----
From: Klos, Susan [mailto:Susan.Klos at fldoe.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 7:13 AM
To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: [AccessD] Missing Months in a crosstab query


I may have asked this before Jim and I am sorry for the repetition.  I have
been gone for a week or so and am just now trying to sort through my emails.
I have printed your reply now and will use it right away to see how it
works. Thanks for your reply and my apologies to all for the duplicate
question. 

Susan Klos
Senior Database Analyst
Evaluation and Reporting
Florida Department of Education
850-245-0708 
sc 205-0708
 

-----Original Message-----
 
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 13:09:23 -0600 
From: "Hale, Jim" <Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Missing months in a crosstab query
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
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Didn't you ask about this a couiple of weeks ago? Did you try this?

"Check out p 157 of Getz's ADH. He suggests using the IN clause. EX:
PIVOT column-headings-field [IN(value1[,value2[,...etc]])]"

Jim Hale


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From chris at piasd.org  Tue Nov  9 10:38:58 2004
From: chris at piasd.org (Chris Kettenbach)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 08:38:58 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Unused numbers?
Message-ID: <2F7BA03C93D17D48B13C42228C8FDAF27856CD@server.domain.local>

I have an autonumber table of like 13000 records.  Does anyone have any sample code to loop through the primary key field and find the numbers that are missing?  Basically reuse old primary keys of deleted records. Maybe it's more trouble than it's worth. Thanks All!!
CK


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From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 11:45:47 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Unused numbers?
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74486A22@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

I think Gustav just posted something last week that should meet your need. Search the archive (or your mail client if you keep these posts around for a while) for "Find holes".

HTH,

Jim DeMarco

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Subject: [AccessD] Unused numbers?


I have an autonumber table of like 13000 records.  Does anyone have any sample code to loop through the primary key field and find the numbers that are missing?  Basically reuse old primary keys of deleted records. Maybe it's more trouble than it's worth. Thanks All!!
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From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Nov  9 11:01:59 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:01:59 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Unused numbers?
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF962@DISABILITYINS01>

>Maybe it's more trouble than it's worth. 

And a bad idea.

Do you use an autonumber?  If so there is no reusing the old numbers.  If
you try you will reset the counter and the next time the autonumber is used
it will collide with values already in the table.

Further they are a long integer capable of handling +/- 4 billion values, so
why worry about it?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Kettenbach [mailto:chris at piasd.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 11:39 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Unused numbers?


I have an autonumber table of like 13000 records.  Does anyone have any
sample code to loop through the primary key field and find the numbers that
are missing?  Basically reuse old primary keys of deleted records. Maybe
it's more trouble than it's worth. Thanks All!!
CK
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Nov  9 11:10:09 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:10:09 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
In-Reply-To: <000101c4c675$2ebeb560$de1811d8@danwaters>
Message-ID: <20041109171009.MXNL8988.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

That's what I thought. Thanks guys!

Susan H. 

I asked this question once because I wanted to be able to record the
procedure name (automatically) when logging errors.  Mike Gunderloy
responded and said that the MS Access developers tried but were unable to
develop a reliable function to do that.




From chris at piasd.org  Tue Nov  9 11:18:57 2004
From: chris at piasd.org (Chris Kettenbach)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 09:18:57 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Unused numbers?
Message-ID: <2F7BA03C93D17D48B13C42228C8FDAF27856D2@server.domain.local>

I think something like this has happened.  Is there anyway to start it over from the largest value.  When users were trying to add new records, it was trying to create duplicate values.  I had to go in and use an SQL INSERT.  I first did a SELECT Max(NumID) then I did an INSERT with 1+that value.  Should the counter begin counting from there now?  I hope that corrected the problem.  Only way I guess is to try adding a new record.  Thanks all.
CK

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 9:02 AM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unused numbers?


>Maybe it's more trouble than it's worth. 

And a bad idea.

Do you use an autonumber?  If so there is no reusing the old numbers.  If
you try you will reset the counter and the next time the autonumber is used
it will collide with values already in the table.

Further they are a long integer capable of handling +/- 4 billion values, so
why worry about it?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Kettenbach [mailto:chris at piasd.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 11:39 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Unused numbers?


I have an autonumber table of like 13000 records.  Does anyone have any
sample code to loop through the primary key field and find the numbers that
are missing?  Basically reuse old primary keys of deleted records. Maybe
it's more trouble than it's worth. Thanks All!!
CK
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Nov  9 11:21:11 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:21:11 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
In-Reply-To: <20041109171009.MXNL8988.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <20041109172117.OYFV2451.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

BTW, does anyone have a good online resource for an explanation of the
Access event model -- sequence and what's going on behind the scenes? I just
need to check things before I go on record and in my usual search-challenged
way, I can't find anything worth squat. :( 

Susan H. 

That's what I thought. Thanks guys!

Susan H. 




From chris at piasd.org  Tue Nov  9 11:27:19 2004
From: chris at piasd.org (Chris Kettenbach)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 09:27:19 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Unused numbers?
Message-ID: <2F7BA03C93D17D48B13C42228C8FDAF27856D3@server.domain.local>

Yes that seems to have fixed the problem

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Chris
Kettenbach
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 9:19 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unused numbers?


I think something like this has happened.  Is there anyway to start it over from the largest value.  When users were trying to add new records, it was trying to create duplicate values.  I had to go in and use an SQL INSERT.  I first did a SELECT Max(NumID) then I did an INSERT with 1+that value.  Should the counter begin counting from there now?  I hope that corrected the problem.  Only way I guess is to try adding a new record.  Thanks all.
CK

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 9:02 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unused numbers?


>Maybe it's more trouble than it's worth. 

And a bad idea.

Do you use an autonumber?  If so there is no reusing the old numbers.  If
you try you will reset the counter and the next time the autonumber is used
it will collide with values already in the table.

Further they are a long integer capable of handling +/- 4 billion values, so
why worry about it?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Kettenbach [mailto:chris at piasd.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 11:39 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Unused numbers?


I have an autonumber table of like 13000 records.  Does anyone have any
sample code to loop through the primary key field and find the numbers that
are missing?  Basically reuse old primary keys of deleted records. Maybe
it's more trouble than it's worth. Thanks All!!
CK
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From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Nov  9 11:34:15 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:34:15 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Unused numbers?
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF963@DISABILITYINS01>

That is exactly the way to do it.  Max (PK) + 1 inserted back in to the PK
field.  After that the autonumber should pick up at the next value which
will no longer collide.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Kettenbach [mailto:chris at piasd.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:19 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unused numbers?


I think something like this has happened.  Is there anyway to start it over
from the largest value.  When users were trying to add new records, it was
trying to create duplicate values.  I had to go in and use an SQL INSERT.  I
first did a SELECT Max(NumID) then I did an INSERT with 1+that value.
Should the counter begin counting from there now?  I hope that corrected the
problem.  Only way I guess is to try adding a new record.  Thanks all.
CK

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 9:02 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unused numbers?


>Maybe it's more trouble than it's worth. 

And a bad idea.

Do you use an autonumber?  If so there is no reusing the old numbers.  If
you try you will reset the counter and the next time the autonumber is used
it will collide with values already in the table.

Further they are a long integer capable of handling +/- 4 billion values, so
why worry about it?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Kettenbach [mailto:chris at piasd.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 11:39 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Unused numbers?


I have an autonumber table of like 13000 records.  Does anyone have any
sample code to loop through the primary key field and find the numbers that
are missing?  Basically reuse old primary keys of deleted records. Maybe
it's more trouble than it's worth. Thanks All!!
CK
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From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Nov  9 11:46:02 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:46:02 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF964@DISABILITYINS01>

Susan,

I have never found a single place to go, particularly for sequence.  The
order of events can get really strange, particularly if you throw in form /
subform loads, subform enter / exit etc.  In the Access help somewhere there
is a generic order of events for the form events, and the control events,
but it definitely cannot tell the whole story.

As far as what's going on behind the scenes... you don't even want to know.
Now you get into things like mouse clicks where Windows hands the mouse
event to Access which translates it into a form / control event.  Normally
Windows directly hands a mouse event to the window the mouse is inside of -
Window meaning a window object, anything square.  That object has to decide
how to handle the click.  Objects inside of Access are not true windows to
windows, thus the mouse event has to be translated by Access using the
position in the Access window etc.  

Similarly key down/up/press... is it handled by the form or by the control?
What if the control should but doesn't? (it ripples up to the form AFAIK).

Events are a rather deep subject.

I think I have a widget on my site that uses the control classes and form
class to debug.print all the events that fire, in the order fired as you do
anything in the form.  If you want to use it I will need to go look around
and see what it is called.  It was part of the lecture series I think.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


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From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:21 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


BTW, does anyone have a good online resource for an explanation of the
Access event model -- sequence and what's going on behind the scenes? I just
need to check things before I go on record and in my usual search-challenged
way, I can't find anything worth squat. :( 

Susan H. 

That's what I thought. Thanks guys!

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Nov  9 11:53:17 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 09:53:17 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B5D@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Have you looked in Help?  The sequence of events for the various objects
are there, although you have to hunt for them.  From the UI bring up
Access help and type "Order of events for database objects" in the
answer wizard.

Charlotte Foust


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From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 9:21 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


BTW, does anyone have a good online resource for an explanation of the
Access event model -- sequence and what's going on behind the scenes? I
just need to check things before I go on record and in my usual
search-challenged way, I can't find anything worth squat. :( 

Susan H. 

That's what I thought. Thanks guys!

Susan H. 


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Nov  9 11:55:41 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 09:55:41 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B5E@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Susan,
There's a workaround of sorts.  You can declare a constant in each
routine with the name of the procedure in it and then include that in
the error description.  Um ... It works best if you insert the constant
when you build each of the routines. <g>  Going back later can be a lot
of work.

Charlotte Foust


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Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 9:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


That's what I thought. Thanks guys!

Susan H. 

I asked this question once because I wanted to be able to record the
procedure name (automatically) when logging errors.  Mike Gunderloy
responded and said that the MS Access developers tried but were unable
to develop a reliable function to do that.


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From chris at piasd.org  Tue Nov  9 11:57:27 2004
From: chris at piasd.org (Chris Kettenbach)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 09:57:27 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Unused numbers?
Message-ID: <2F7BA03C93D17D48B13C42228C8FDAF27856D5@server.domain.local>

excellent.  works as anticipated.  thanks

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Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 9:34 AM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unused numbers?


That is exactly the way to do it.  Max (PK) + 1 inserted back in to the PK
field.  After that the autonumber should pick up at the next value which
will no longer collide.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


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Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:19 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unused numbers?


I think something like this has happened.  Is there anyway to start it over
from the largest value.  When users were trying to add new records, it was
trying to create duplicate values.  I had to go in and use an SQL INSERT.  I
first did a SELECT Max(NumID) then I did an INSERT with 1+that value.
Should the counter begin counting from there now?  I hope that corrected the
problem.  Only way I guess is to try adding a new record.  Thanks all.
CK

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Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 9:02 AM
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>Maybe it's more trouble than it's worth. 

And a bad idea.

Do you use an autonumber?  If so there is no reusing the old numbers.  If
you try you will reset the counter and the next time the autonumber is used
it will collide with values already in the table.

Further they are a long integer capable of handling +/- 4 billion values, so
why worry about it?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


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Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 11:39 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Unused numbers?


I have an autonumber table of like 13000 records.  Does anyone have any
sample code to loop through the primary key field and find the numbers that
are missing?  Basically reuse old primary keys of deleted records. Maybe
it's more trouble than it's worth. Thanks All!!
CK
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From jmoss111 at bellsouth.net  Tue Nov  9 12:01:34 2004
From: jmoss111 at bellsouth.net (jmoss111 at bellsouth.net)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 13:01:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
Message-ID: <20041109180134.ZKOA2398.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net>

You can also find an event logger in ADH, in chapter 2 in the 2000 and 2002 versions.
> 
> From: "Colby, John" <JColby at dispec.com>
> Date: 2004/11/09 Tue PM 12:46:02 EST
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> 	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification
> 
> Susan,
> 
> I have never found a single place to go, particularly for sequence.  The
> order of events can get really strange, particularly if you throw in form /
> subform loads, subform enter / exit etc.  In the Access help somewhere there
> is a generic order of events for the form events, and the control events,
> but it definitely cannot tell the whole story.
> 
> As far as what's going on behind the scenes... you don't even want to know.
> Now you get into things like mouse clicks where Windows hands the mouse
> event to Access which translates it into a form / control event.  Normally
> Windows directly hands a mouse event to the window the mouse is inside of -
> Window meaning a window object, anything square.  That object has to decide
> how to handle the click.  Objects inside of Access are not true windows to
> windows, thus the mouse event has to be translated by Access using the
> position in the Access window etc.  
> 
> Similarly key down/up/press... is it handled by the form or by the control?
> What if the control should but doesn't? (it ripples up to the form AFAIK).
> 
> Events are a rather deep subject.
> 
> I think I have a widget on my site that uses the control classes and form
> class to debug.print all the events that fire, in the order fired as you do
> anything in the form.  If you want to use it I will need to go look around
> and see what it is called.  It was part of the lecture series I think.
> 
> John W. Colby
> The DIS Database Guy
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:21 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification
> 
> 
> BTW, does anyone have a good online resource for an explanation of the
> Access event model -- sequence and what's going on behind the scenes? I just
> need to check things before I go on record and in my usual search-challenged
> way, I can't find anything worth squat. :( 
> 
> Susan H. 
> 
> That's what I thought. Thanks guys!
> 
> Susan H. 
> 
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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Tue Nov  9 13:01:48 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 14:01:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
In-Reply-To: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF964@DISABILITYINS01>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKAEIKKMAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

John,

<<Objects inside of Access are not true windows to
windows, thus the mouse event has to be translated by Access using the
position in the Access window etc. >>

  I don't think that's quite right.  While Access objects are not true
Windows objects, they do get a hwnd when they are active.  I don't think the
mouse clicks are translated based on position.

Jim


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


Susan,

I have never found a single place to go, particularly for sequence.  The
order of events can get really strange, particularly if you throw in form /
subform loads, subform enter / exit etc.  In the Access help somewhere there
is a generic order of events for the form events, and the control events,
but it definitely cannot tell the whole story.

As far as what's going on behind the scenes... you don't even want to know.
Now you get into things like mouse clicks where Windows hands the mouse
event to Access which translates it into a form / control event.  Normally
Windows directly hands a mouse event to the window the mouse is inside of -
Window meaning a window object, anything square.  That object has to decide
how to handle the click.  Objects inside of Access are not true windows to
windows, thus the mouse event has to be translated by Access using the
position in the Access window etc.

Similarly key down/up/press... is it handled by the form or by the control?
What if the control should but doesn't? (it ripples up to the form AFAIK).

Events are a rather deep subject.

I think I have a widget on my site that uses the control classes and form
class to debug.print all the events that fire, in the order fired as you do
anything in the form.  If you want to use it I will need to go look around
and see what it is called.  It was part of the lecture series I think.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:21 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


BTW, does anyone have a good online resource for an explanation of the
Access event model -- sequence and what's going on behind the scenes? I just
need to check things before I go on record and in my usual search-challenged
way, I can't find anything worth squat. :(

Susan H.

That's what I thought. Thanks guys!

Susan H.


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From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Nov  9 13:17:27 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 14:17:27 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF965@DISABILITYINS01>

Everything I've read says a control does NOT have a hwind.  Forms might.
Not exactly my area of expertise however.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 2:02 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


John,

<<Objects inside of Access are not true windows to
windows, thus the mouse event has to be translated by Access using the
position in the Access window etc. >>

  I don't think that's quite right.  While Access objects are not true
Windows objects, they do get a hwnd when they are active.  I don't think the
mouse clicks are translated based on position.

Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


Susan,

I have never found a single place to go, particularly for sequence.  The
order of events can get really strange, particularly if you throw in form /
subform loads, subform enter / exit etc.  In the Access help somewhere there
is a generic order of events for the form events, and the control events,
but it definitely cannot tell the whole story.

As far as what's going on behind the scenes... you don't even want to know.
Now you get into things like mouse clicks where Windows hands the mouse
event to Access which translates it into a form / control event.  Normally
Windows directly hands a mouse event to the window the mouse is inside of -
Window meaning a window object, anything square.  That object has to decide
how to handle the click.  Objects inside of Access are not true windows to
windows, thus the mouse event has to be translated by Access using the
position in the Access window etc.

Similarly key down/up/press... is it handled by the form or by the control?
What if the control should but doesn't? (it ripples up to the form AFAIK).

Events are a rather deep subject.

I think I have a widget on my site that uses the control classes and form
class to debug.print all the events that fire, in the order fired as you do
anything in the form.  If you want to use it I will need to go look around
and see what it is called.  It was part of the lecture series I think.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:21 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


BTW, does anyone have a good online resource for an explanation of the
Access event model -- sequence and what's going on behind the scenes? I just
need to check things before I go on record and in my usual search-challenged
way, I can't find anything worth squat. :(

Susan H.

That's what I thought. Thanks guys!

Susan H.


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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Tue Nov  9 13:53:06 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 13:53:06 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08653F5EA1@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

Access controls reuse a single floating window that can be accessed by
handle when the control receives the focus, using the GetFocus() API
call.  

Access forms are true windows (OForm window class), and have a built-in
hWnd property that is available at all times.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 1:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


Everything I've read says a control does NOT have a hwind.  Forms might.
Not exactly my area of expertise however.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 2:02 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


John,

<<Objects inside of Access are not true windows to
windows, thus the mouse event has to be translated by Access using the
position in the Access window etc. >>

  I don't think that's quite right.  While Access objects are not true
Windows objects, they do get a hwnd when they are active.  I don't think
the
mouse clicks are translated based on position.

Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


Susan,

I have never found a single place to go, particularly for sequence.  The
order of events can get really strange, particularly if you throw in
form /
subform loads, subform enter / exit etc.  In the Access help somewhere
there
is a generic order of events for the form events, and the control
events,
but it definitely cannot tell the whole story.

As far as what's going on behind the scenes... you don't even want to
know.
Now you get into things like mouse clicks where Windows hands the mouse
event to Access which translates it into a form / control event.
Normally
Windows directly hands a mouse event to the window the mouse is inside
of -
Window meaning a window object, anything square.  That object has to
decide
how to handle the click.  Objects inside of Access are not true windows
to
windows, thus the mouse event has to be translated by Access using the
position in the Access window etc.

Similarly key down/up/press... is it handled by the form or by the
control?
What if the control should but doesn't? (it ripples up to the form
AFAIK).

Events are a rather deep subject.

I think I have a widget on my site that uses the control classes and
form
class to debug.print all the events that fire, in the order fired as you
do
anything in the form.  If you want to use it I will need to go look
around
and see what it is called.  It was part of the lecture series I think.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:21 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


BTW, does anyone have a good online resource for an explanation of the
Access event model -- sequence and what's going on behind the scenes? I
just
need to check things before I go on record and in my usual
search-challenged
way, I can't find anything worth squat. :(

Susan H.

That's what I thought. Thanks guys!

Susan H.


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Nov  9 14:30:07 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:30:07 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B61@infoserver01.infostat.local>

You can definitely get the hWnd of a control that has the focus, John.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 11:17 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


Everything I've read says a control does NOT have a hwind.  Forms might.
Not exactly my area of expertise however.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 2:02 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


John,

<<Objects inside of Access are not true windows to
windows, thus the mouse event has to be translated by Access using the
position in the Access window etc. >>

  I don't think that's quite right.  While Access objects are not true
Windows objects, they do get a hwnd when they are active.  I don't think
the mouse clicks are translated based on position.

Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


Susan,

I have never found a single place to go, particularly for sequence.  The
order of events can get really strange, particularly if you throw in
form / subform loads, subform enter / exit etc.  In the Access help
somewhere there is a generic order of events for the form events, and
the control events, but it definitely cannot tell the whole story.

As far as what's going on behind the scenes... you don't even want to
know. Now you get into things like mouse clicks where Windows hands the
mouse event to Access which translates it into a form / control event.
Normally Windows directly hands a mouse event to the window the mouse is
inside of - Window meaning a window object, anything square.  That
object has to decide how to handle the click.  Objects inside of Access
are not true windows to windows, thus the mouse event has to be
translated by Access using the position in the Access window etc.

Similarly key down/up/press... is it handled by the form or by the
control? What if the control should but doesn't? (it ripples up to the
form AFAIK).

Events are a rather deep subject.

I think I have a widget on my site that uses the control classes and
form class to debug.print all the events that fire, in the order fired
as you do anything in the form.  If you want to use it I will need to go
look around and see what it is called.  It was part of the lecture
series I think.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:21 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


BTW, does anyone have a good online resource for an explanation of the
Access event model -- sequence and what's going on behind the scenes? I
just need to check things before I go on record and in my usual
search-challenged way, I can't find anything worth squat. :(

Susan H.

That's what I thought. Thanks guys!

Susan H.


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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Tue Nov  9 15:12:58 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 22:12:58 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K, Export to Excel
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5501@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Aha, yes, know that prob.

Export without formatting and openening excel options. Just straight in
to a file...
Problem solved.
Changing the cell format does not solve this issue.
For me this is a bug that is present since A2K 

Erwin 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K, Export to Excel

Hi Francisco

Try setting the format property of the field in the query to "Number"
and two decimals. If this doesn't help, you may need to fall back to use
Format() in an expression.

/gustav


> A friend has a query, and is exporting the results to an excel file, 
> for some reason the numeric (dollar) values are converted to string in

> excel (the single ' quote problem) it's easy enough to convert excel 
> to see it as a numeric but why?

> thanks,
> --
> -Francisco

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Nov  9 15:24:20 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 15:24:20 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D075@main2.marlow.com>

Not really, that is the hWnd of a generic window, which moves to whatever
control has the focus.  It's not unique to the control.  That is in Access
though.  VB form controls have their own hWnd.  Subforms, however, do have
their own hWnd, so they are the exception to the rule.

Drew

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From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 2:30 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


You can definitely get the hWnd of a control that has the focus, John.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 11:17 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


Everything I've read says a control does NOT have a hwind.  Forms might.
Not exactly my area of expertise however.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 2:02 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


John,

<<Objects inside of Access are not true windows to
windows, thus the mouse event has to be translated by Access using the
position in the Access window etc. >>

  I don't think that's quite right.  While Access objects are not true
Windows objects, they do get a hwnd when they are active.  I don't think
the mouse clicks are translated based on position.

Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


Susan,

I have never found a single place to go, particularly for sequence.  The
order of events can get really strange, particularly if you throw in
form / subform loads, subform enter / exit etc.  In the Access help
somewhere there is a generic order of events for the form events, and
the control events, but it definitely cannot tell the whole story.

As far as what's going on behind the scenes... you don't even want to
know. Now you get into things like mouse clicks where Windows hands the
mouse event to Access which translates it into a form / control event.
Normally Windows directly hands a mouse event to the window the mouse is
inside of - Window meaning a window object, anything square.  That
object has to decide how to handle the click.  Objects inside of Access
are not true windows to windows, thus the mouse event has to be
translated by Access using the position in the Access window etc.

Similarly key down/up/press... is it handled by the form or by the
control? What if the control should but doesn't? (it ripples up to the
form AFAIK).

Events are a rather deep subject.

I think I have a widget on my site that uses the control classes and
form class to debug.print all the events that fire, in the order fired
as you do anything in the form.  If you want to use it I will need to go
look around and see what it is called.  It was part of the lecture
series I think.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:21 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


BTW, does anyone have a good online resource for an explanation of the
Access event model -- sequence and what's going on behind the scenes? I
just need to check things before I go on record and in my usual
search-challenged way, I can't find anything worth squat. :(

Susan H.

That's what I thought. Thanks guys!

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From pedro at plex.nl  Tue Nov  9 14:50:07 2004
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 21:50:07 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] difficult query??
References: <004a01c4c5dc$9bef3a40$f8c581d5@pedro>
	<17114810796.20041109125657@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <006f01c4c6a7$04ba1ac0$f8c581d5@pedro>

Thanks Gustav,

it works perfect.

Pedro Janssen


----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] difficult query??


> Hi Pedro
>
> > i have a table [tblA] with 20 fields.
> > One of these fields [Number] has a value from 1 to 25.
> > I would like each record with a value in field [number] giving the
ammount of records of the value of field Number in a new table. And the
value of field [Number] must change into "X". All other
> > fields must also be present.
>
> > for example
>
> > i have
> > tblA
>
> > ID   fieldA  Number etc etc etc
> > 1       A           3
>
>
> > i need
> > ID   fieldA  Number etc etc etc
> > 1       A           X
> > 1       A           X
> > 1       A           X
>
> > Can this been done?
>
> Yes. Create a table, tbzMultiply, with one integer field, Factor, and
> create records from 1 to 25 or more, say, 100.
>
> Then use:
>
>   SELECT
>     tblA.ID,
>     tblA.FieldA,
>     ...
>     tblA.FieldZ,
>     "X" AS [Number]
>   FROM
>     tblA,
>     tbzMultiply
>   WHERE
>     (tbzMultiply.Factor Between 1 And tblA.[Number])
>   ORDER BY
>     tblA.ID;
>
> Note the missing join. This is a Cartesian (multiplying) query.
>
> /gustav
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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Tue Nov  9 18:10:12 2004
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 16:10:12 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] A2K, Export to Excel
In-Reply-To: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5501@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
References: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5501@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <b874372a041109161029e5a4be@mail.gmail.com>

arg.  well I've moved on since that but I'm still curious why this
occurs.. it is very frustrating.. :|


On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 22:12:58 +0100, Erwin Craps - IT Helps
<erwin.craps at ithelps.be> wrote:
> Aha, yes, know that prob.
> 
> Export without formatting and openening excel options. Just straight in
> to a file...
> Problem solved.
> Changing the cell format does not solve this issue.
> For me this is a bug that is present since A2K
> 
> Erwin 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:03 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K, Export to Excel
> 
> Hi Francisco
> 
> Try setting the format property of the field in the query to "Number"
> and two decimals. If this doesn't help, you may need to fall back to use
> Format() in an expression.
> 
> /gustav
> 
> > A friend has a query, and is exporting the results to an excel file,
> > for some reason the numeric (dollar) values are converted to string in
> 
> > excel (the single ' quote problem) it's easy enough to convert excel
> > to see it as a numeric but why?
> 
> > thanks,
> > --
> > -Francisco
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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Tue Nov  9 18:14:27 2004
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 16:14:27 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
In-Reply-To: <20041109172117.OYFV2451.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <20041109171009.MXNL8988.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
	<20041109172117.OYFV2451.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <b874372a04110916144563afae@mail.gmail.com>

There is a tool out there called "mztools"  http://www.mztools.com/
that allows you to on a single click add the error handling code you
are seeking (ie, the name of the calling function/sub)  In this way
you will know if it was the After/Before/Current event that triggered
the error.

btw, I noticed that now they support .net, but are now a pay service
:| but at least 3.0 is still free :)


On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:21:11 -0500, Susan Harkins
<ssharkins at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> BTW, does anyone have a good online resource for an explanation of the
> Access event model -- sequence and what's going on behind the scenes? I just
> need to check things before I go on record and in my usual search-challenged
> way, I can't find anything worth squat. :(
> 
> Susan H.
> 
> 
> 
> That's what I thought. Thanks guys!
> 
> Susan H.
> 
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Nov  9 18:45:45 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 16:45:45 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B65@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I use 4.0 in .Net and love it!  It's a bit different from the 3.0
version, which I still use in Access, but it's well worth the minimal
cost, and the author just patched it for a problem I encountered and
reported with find and replace.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 4:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] event identification


There is a tool out there called "mztools"  http://www.mztools.com/ that
allows you to on a single click add the error handling code you are
seeking (ie, the name of the calling function/sub)  In this way you will
know if it was the After/Before/Current event that triggered the error.

btw, I noticed that now they support .net, but are now a pay service :|
but at least 3.0 is still free :)


On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:21:11 -0500, Susan Harkins
<ssharkins at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> BTW, does anyone have a good online resource for an explanation of the

> Access event model -- sequence and what's going on behind the scenes? 
> I just need to check things before I go on record and in my usual 
> search-challenged way, I can't find anything worth squat. :(
> 
> Susan H.
> 
> 
> 
> That's what I thought. Thanks guys!
> 
> Susan H.
> 
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Tue Nov  9 19:54:49 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:54:49 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Adding history cycles of data
Message-ID: <000e01c4c6c8$439fc700$6401a8c0@user>

I need to add a historic reporting cycle to an existing database. The BE currently has around 65 tables.

The FE has around 150 queries, and approx the same no. of forms, with approx 40 reports.

The decision has been made to store some historic data, so on a quarterly basis I need to create 6 new tables of data which will be held permanently in the BE, ie. 6 x 4 quarters = 24 new tables per year.

This system also has a linked mdb called Update.mdb to allow me to rollout updates automatically, as well as a linked web mdb which holds data which gets uploaded to the website.

As I work for myself, before I create this new logic to create 6 new tables per quarter, I wanted to run this by the list - is there any argument for storing these history tables outside the main BE? Is there any advantage to creating 6 large history tables with dates, rather than 6 per quarter? If you were needing to add a historic cycle to a system, would you use the approach I am suggesting? I have worked hard to keep this system running fast and the clients are happy with the speed - so I don't want to slow it down...

(And does anyone have some code to create tables directly into the BE and link them straight back to the initiating FE?)

TIA
Kath

From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Nov  9 21:06:41 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 19:06:41 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Adding history cycles of data
In-Reply-To: <000e01c4c6c8$439fc700$6401a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIGEPPCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Kath:

Just a comment; 6 new tables a quarter? Why? I can see adding some
historical summary data to a special set of tables, to maybe aid in fast
processing for a complex set of calculations but continually generating
table after table seems to be a waste. That is where quering are used.

A number of years ago I took over a site with about ninety forms and I can
not remember how many queries, macros but the list was pretty staggering.
The system is now running on less than twenty non-duplicated forms and the
only thing that increased has been the data and number of reports.

My recommendation is try to keep the application as lean as possible. Think
of the poor programmer that has to manage it all...and it may be you! :-)

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 5:55 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Adding history cycles of data


I need to add a historic reporting cycle to an existing database. The BE
currently has around 65 tables.

The FE has around 150 queries, and approx the same no. of forms, with approx
40 reports.

The decision has been made to store some historic data, so on a quarterly
basis I need to create 6 new tables of data which will be held permanently
in the BE, ie. 6 x 4 quarters = 24 new tables per year.

This system also has a linked mdb called Update.mdb to allow me to rollout
updates automatically, as well as a linked web mdb which holds data which
gets uploaded to the website.

As I work for myself, before I create this new logic to create 6 new tables
per quarter, I wanted to run this by the list - is there any argument for
storing these history tables outside the main BE? Is there any advantage to
creating 6 large history tables with dates, rather than 6 per quarter? If
you were needing to add a historic cycle to a system, would you use the
approach I am suggesting? I have worked hard to keep this system running
fast and the clients are happy with the speed - so I don't want to slow it
down...

(And does anyone have some code to create tables directly into the BE and
link them straight back to the initiating FE?)

TIA
Kath
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Tue Nov  9 21:26:10 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:26:10 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Adding history cycles of data
References: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIGEPPCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <001c01c4c6d5$06745f00$6401a8c0@user>

Jim - the business is in stockbroking.

The main purpose of the system currrently is to provide valuations of portfolios to approx. 300 clients who can each hold up to 19 accounts.

At the moment the system is fairly lean on data storage because it uses a daily refresh principal, ie. each day all stocks, holdings and prices are discarded, and live market data is read in to the system. Queries and reports read the new data to provide up to date valuations.

This process will continue to take place, but every 3 months the client wants to 'freeze' that position and keep it as a position for that quarter. Every quarter a new position will be 'frozen' and a history will be built.

My client requires the historical positions to be editable. The 6 tables will hold details of clients at that point in time, accounts held by them at that time, and all investments held at that time, as well as prices held for those stocks at that time.

For this reason, a summary just won't be enough. I agree that the ongoing maintenance and speed / efficiency has to be uppermost on the design decision.

I would like to keep as few tables as possible - but if I throw all historical data out to one set of 6 history tables is it the most efficient?

Another option is to only hold a table of report cycle id's  in the BE - with a link to an external mdb which holds all the actual data.

I am still thinking it through and look forward to seeing what others think...
Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 2:06 PM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Adding history cycles of data


  Hi Kath:

  Just a comment; 6 new tables a quarter? Why? I can see adding some
  historical summary data to a special set of tables, to maybe aid in fast
  processing for a complex set of calculations but continually generating
  table after table seems to be a waste. That is where quering are used.

  A number of years ago I took over a site with about ninety forms and I can
  not remember how many queries, macros but the list was pretty staggering.
  The system is now running on less than twenty non-duplicated forms and the
  only thing that increased has been the data and number of reports.

  My recommendation is try to keep the application as lean as possible. Think
  of the poor programmer that has to manage it all...and it may be you! :-)

  Jim

  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 5:55 PM
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
  Subject: [AccessD] Adding history cycles of data


  I need to add a historic reporting cycle to an existing database. The BE
  currently has around 65 tables.

  The FE has around 150 queries, and approx the same no. of forms, with approx
  40 reports.

  The decision has been made to store some historic data, so on a quarterly
  basis I need to create 6 new tables of data which will be held permanently
  in the BE, ie. 6 x 4 quarters = 24 new tables per year.

  This system also has a linked mdb called Update.mdb to allow me to rollout
  updates automatically, as well as a linked web mdb which holds data which
  gets uploaded to the website.

  As I work for myself, before I create this new logic to create 6 new tables
  per quarter, I wanted to run this by the list - is there any argument for
  storing these history tables outside the main BE? Is there any advantage to
  creating 6 large history tables with dates, rather than 6 per quarter? If
  you were needing to add a historic cycle to a system, would you use the
  approach I am suggesting? I have worked hard to keep this system running
  fast and the clients are happy with the speed - so I don't want to slow it
  down...

  (And does anyone have some code to create tables directly into the BE and
  link them straight back to the initiating FE?)

  TIA
  Kath
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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Tue Nov  9 21:35:56 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 20:35:56 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Alternating background color in continuous forms?
Message-ID: <157240-220041131033556327@christopherhawkins.com>

Greetings, all!

I want to do something kind of fun.  I am trying to figure out how to
do alternating background colors in a continuous form.  I was looking
at conditional formatting in Access 2002, but am not sure how to work
out an expression that will do the trick.

I am also looking a doing it programmatically, but I think I'd have
to do some heavy subclassing, which isn't worth the work just for eye
candy.

Surely someone must have done this before.  Can anyone either offer
sugestons on how to figure it out, or post actual code?  I'll be sure
to give proper credit when it's time to submit the results to the UI
Hall of Fame.  ;)

-Christopher-
Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Nov  9 22:09:12 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:09:12 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Alternating background color in continuous forms?
In-Reply-To: <157240-220041131033556327@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <41922108.8351.46C490D@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 9 Nov 2004 at 20:35, Christopher Hawkins wrote:

> 
> Surely someone must have done this before.  Can anyone either offer
> sugestons on how to figure it out, or post actual code?  I'll be sure
> to give proper credit when it's time to submit the results to the UI
> Hall of Fame.  ;)
> 

You mean here :-)

http://digilander.libero.it/chiediloapippo/Engineering/iarchitect/color.htm

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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Tue Nov  9 22:41:06 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 21:41:06 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Alternating background color in continuous forms?
Message-ID: <184670-22004113104416249@christopherhawkins.com>

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA sheddup.  :p

---- Original Message ----
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com, 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Alternating background color in continuous
forms?
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:09:12 +1000

>On 9 Nov 2004 at 20:35, Christopher Hawkins wrote:
>
>> 
>> Surely someone must have done this before.  Can anyone either offer
>> sugestons on how to figure it out, or post actual code?  I'll be 
>sure
>> to give proper credit when it's time to submit the results to the 
>UI
>> Hall of Fame.  ;)
>> 
>
>You mean here :-)
>
>http://digilander.libero.it/chiediloapippo/Engineering/iarchitect/col
>or.htm
>
>-- 
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>
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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Tue Nov  9 23:51:27 2004
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (dmcafee at pacbell.net)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 21:51:27 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Alternating background color in continuous forms?
In-Reply-To: <184670-22004113104416249@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKAEIDEMAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

Access 2000 and later has Conditional formatting

Access 97 and earlier will needed to use a textbox in the background. Check
out Duane Hookem's BRdemo database:
http://www.invisibleinc.com/download.cfm?filFilID=7

HTH
David

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Christopher
Hawkins
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 8:41 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Alternating background color in continuous forms?


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA sheddup.  :p

---- Original Message ----
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com,
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Alternating background color in continuous
forms?
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:09:12 +1000

>On 9 Nov 2004 at 20:35, Christopher Hawkins wrote:
>
>>
>> Surely someone must have done this before.  Can anyone either offer
>> sugestons on how to figure it out, or post actual code?  I'll be
>sure
>> to give proper credit when it's time to submit the results to the
>UI
>> Hall of Fame.  ;)
>>
>
>You mean here :-)
>
>http://digilander.libero.it/chiediloapippo/Engineering/iarchitect/col
>or.htm
>
>--
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>
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From viner at EUnet.yu  Wed Nov 10 03:19:38 2004
From: viner at EUnet.yu (Ervin Brindza)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:19:38 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Where is 1$?
Message-ID: <005701c4c706$777983c0$0100a8c0@razvoj>

Sorry, I couldn't resist:
Three cowboys order a bottle of whisky for 30$ in the saloon. The owner notice the omission and give an order to a barman to return them 5$. He pick 2$ in his pocket, and return 1$ to each cowboy. 3x9+2 = 29 but where is 1$?

From viner at EUnet.yu  Wed Nov 10 03:19:38 2004
From: viner at EUnet.yu (Ervin Brindza)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:19:38 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Where is 1$?
Message-ID: <007201c4c706$a95ea5a0$0100a8c0@razvoj>

Sorry, I couldn't resist:
Three cowboys order a bottle of whisky for 30$ in the saloon. The owner notice the omission and give an order to a barman to return them 5$. He pick 2$ in his pocket, and return 1$ to each cowboy. 3x9+2 = 29 but where is 1$?

From serbach at new.rr.com  Wed Nov 10 05:16:26 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 05:16:26 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] A2K/AXP Repllcation problem
In-Reply-To: <20041107045310.1540446425.serbach@new.rr.com>
References: <20041105132148.1553325418.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<20041107045310.1540446425.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <20041110051626.1518568599.serbach@new.rr.com>

Dear Group,

My synchronization problem turned out to be simply a repair/compact problem. As soon as I repaired the databases on the laptops, I was able to synch them with the main database in my customer's home office.

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI


> ------------Original Message------------
> From: "Steven W. Erbach" <serbach at new.rr.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Date: Sun, Nov-7-2004 5:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K/AXP Repllcation problem
> 
> Well, I found something over on Experts Exchange that may relate to 
> this problem. It's a Microsoft KB article, Q301474. We'll see.
> 
> Steve Erbach
> Neenah, WI
> 




From actebs at actebs.com.au  Wed Nov 10 07:13:11 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 00:13:11 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Treeview -  Again : )
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BD3@starfleet.unknown.local>

Guys,

Arthur's treeview is great, lots of examples on how to use it. The thing I can't figure out is how to select an item within the treeview for the user. For example:

The user wants to edit a record he selects the record he wants to edit and I populate the text fields etc for him, but I can't get the treeview to highlight the activity item it relates to. Basically, I want to expand the treeview and highlight the item in the treeview that corresponds to the selected record.

Things I have tried is:

a)	Tvw.nodes.value = whatever
b)	set tvw.nodes = whatever
c)	tvw.nodes.selecteditem = whatever

Is there another method?

Thanks

Vlad




From kaupca at chevrontexaco.com  Wed Nov 10 07:19:30 2004
From: kaupca at chevrontexaco.com (Kaup, Chester A)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 07:19:30 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Where is 1$?
Message-ID: <1375769556091B4DAABC159F944CA1BB07A2B2@bocnte2k4.hou150.chevrontexaco.net>

The three cowboys were dunk by now and didn't care anyway.
However Cowboy one got $3 back ($2 plus $1) and each of the other 2 got
$1 back. $9 + $9 + $7 +$5 = #30.00. 

Chester Kaup
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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Ervin Brindza
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 3:20 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Where is 1$?


Sorry, I couldn't resist:
Three cowboys order a bottle of whisky for 30$ in the saloon. The owner
notice the omission and give an order to a barman to return them 5$. He
pick 2$ in his pocket, and return 1$ to each cowboy. 3x9+2 = 29 but
where is 1$?
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From actebs at actebs.com.au  Wed Nov 10 09:28:12 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 02:28:12 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Wait For Word To Finish Printing
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BD4@starfleet.unknown.local>

Guys,

I have a function that prints out numerous Word documents on the fly which I loop through. The problem is the print job hasn't finished and a dialogue box pops up suggesting that "If you close word now the document print job will be cancelled"

The code is as follows:

    With m_objWord
        .ActiveDocument.SaveAs strWrdPath
        
        If gBoolPrintOrNot = True Then
            .ActiveDocument.PrintOut
            DoEvents
        End If
        
        .ActiveDocument.Close
    End With
    
    m_objWord.Quit
    Set m_objDoc = Nothing
    Set m_objWord = Nothing

It works well other than I have to close after I am finished as I don't want to leave variables in memory. Is there any way to wait until word has finished it's job?

I have tried Dev's "ShellWait" function, but that is more geared to batch files rather than a windows app, and it's not the word document that is the process, it's word that is executing the process....

Any guidance much appreciated...

Vlad




From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Nov 10 09:56:33 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:56:33 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Where is 1$?
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D076@main2.marlow.com>

Actually, it's $25 for the whiskey (which is why they got five back).  $9
for each cowboy, which means they paid $27, and the barman kept a $2 tip, so
27-2=25

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Ervin Brindza [mailto:viner at EUnet.yu]
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 3:20 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Where is 1$?


Sorry, I couldn't resist:
Three cowboys order a bottle of whisky for 30$ in the saloon. The owner
notice the omission and give an order to a barman to return them 5$. He pick
2$ in his pocket, and return 1$ to each cowboy. 3x9+2 = 29 but where is 1$?
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From JColby at dispec.com  Wed Nov 10 09:48:06 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:48:06 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF969@DISABILITYINS01>

I just downloaded this.  Pretty nice.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 7:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] event identification


There is a tool out there called "mztools"  http://www.mztools.com/
that allows you to on a single click add the error handling code you
are seeking (ie, the name of the calling function/sub)  In this way
you will know if it was the After/Before/Current event that triggered
the error.

btw, I noticed that now they support .net, but are now a pay service
:| but at least 3.0 is still free :)


On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:21:11 -0500, Susan Harkins
<ssharkins at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> BTW, does anyone have a good online resource for an explanation of the
> Access event model -- sequence and what's going on behind the scenes? I
just
> need to check things before I go on record and in my usual
search-challenged
> way, I can't find anything worth squat. :(
> 
> Susan H.
> 
> 
> 
> That's what I thought. Thanks guys!
> 
> Susan H.
> 
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Wed Nov 10 09:12:17 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 16:12:17 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Wait For Word To Finish Printing
Message-ID: <20041110161214.5FF5E256047@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Vlad
I know the problem. What I did, rightly or wrongly, was omit the .Quit but
still set the Word object to Nothing.
--
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From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
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To: Access Group E-mail <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] Wait For Word To Finish Printing
Date: 10/11/04 15:58

>
> Guys,
>
> I have a function that prints out numerous Word documents on the fly which
I loop through. The problem is the print job hasn't finished and a dialogue
box pops up suggesting that &quot;If you close word now the document print
job will be cancelled&quot;
>
> The code is as follows:
>
>     With m_objWord
>         .ActiveDocument.SaveAs strWrdPath
>
>         If gBoolPrintOrNot = True Then
>             .ActiveDocument.PrintOut
>             DoEvents
>         End If
>
>         .ActiveDocument.Close
>     End With
>
>     m_objWord.Quit
>     Set m_objDoc = Nothing
>     Set m_objWord = Nothing
>
> It works well other than I have to close after I am finished as I don't
want to leave variables in memory. Is there any way to wait until word has
finished it's job?
>
> I have tried Dev's &quot;ShellWait&quot; function, but that is more geared
to batch files rather than a windows app, and it's not the word document
that is the process, it's word that is executing the process....
>
> Any guidance much appreciated...
>
> Vlad
>
>
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Wed Nov 10 10:17:51 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 11:17:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Wait For Word To Finish Printing
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F3392F@nprdex02.nns.com>

My memory is a little fuzzy on this issue.
Will this work?

m_objWord.Options.PrintBackground = True


Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 10:28 AM
To: Access Group (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Wait For Word To Finish Printing


Guys,

I have a function that prints out numerous Word documents on the fly which I
loop through. The problem is the print job hasn't finished and a dialogue
box pops up suggesting that "If you close word now the document print job
will be cancelled"

The code is as follows:

    With m_objWord
        .ActiveDocument.SaveAs strWrdPath
        
        If gBoolPrintOrNot = True Then
            .ActiveDocument.PrintOut
            DoEvents
        End If
        
        .ActiveDocument.Close
    End With
    
    m_objWord.Quit
    Set m_objDoc = Nothing
    Set m_objWord = Nothing

It works well other than I have to close after I am finished as I don't want
to leave variables in memory. Is there any way to wait until word has
finished it's job?

I have tried Dev's "ShellWait" function, but that is more geared to batch
files rather than a windows app, and it's not the word document that is the
process, it's word that is executing the process....

Any guidance much appreciated...

Vlad


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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Wed Nov 10 10:20:55 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 11:20:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] If Then Else to Function
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C3CE@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

I can not find any references to this on line or in books.  I have tasks
that fall into various buckets for users to process as they move through
an approval process.  The existing database defines these buckets using
if..then..else statements across more forms and reports than I can name.
Moving to the big time, how do I convert a statement show below to a
function?  This example defines if a task is in the AS Final Review
queue.

TaskStatus: IIf([RequestType] Not In ('Field Problem','Site
Audit','Product Audit','Product Audit/Field Problem') And [Section] In
(2,3) And [Status]='Open' And Not IsNull([ASSectCompletedDate]) And
[ysnASTestRequired]=0 And [ysnASQARequired]=0,"In AS Final Review","Not
In AS Final Review")


From dwaters at usinternet.com  Wed Nov 10 10:50:58 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:50:58 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] If Then Else to Function
In-Reply-To: <9452851.1100104133265.JavaMail.root@sniper4.usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <001101c4c745$743074a0$de1811d8@danwaters>

Karen,

With the statement below, you are now in 'Final Review' status, not 'Open'
status.

I do this a lot.  As you go through the process, the record needs to change
status.  For example, a Nonconforming Material record might go through the
following status sequence: Description, Disposition, Approval (or Final
Review), Finish, Closed.  All of these are 'Open' except of course for
Closed.

As people enter more information, your code can change the record status as
needed.  This makes your code easier to use, and your users/managers can
more easily understand where the process is if the status is displayed
on-screen.

For your reports, make a screen that will build a SQL statement based on the
user's criteria.  Then use that SQL statement in the 'Where' argument when
the open the report.  The form can have a combobox for each bucket.  This
gives you one report that can come close to being all things to all people.

HTH,
Dan Waters
ProMation Systems

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 10:21 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] If Then Else to Function

I can not find any references to this on line or in books.  I have tasks
that fall into various buckets for users to process as they move through
an approval process.  The existing database defines these buckets using
if..then..else statements across more forms and reports than I can name.
Moving to the big time, how do I convert a statement show below to a
function?  This example defines if a task is in the AS Final Review
queue.

TaskStatus: IIf([RequestType] Not In ('Field Problem','Site
Audit','Product Audit','Product Audit/Field Problem') And [Section] In
(2,3) And [Status]='Open' And Not IsNull([ASSectCompletedDate]) And
[ysnASTestRequired]=0 And [ysnASQARequired]=0,"In AS Final Review","Not
In AS Final Review")
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Nov 10 11:16:46 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:16:46 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B66@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Which one, John?  They're both nice. <g>

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 7:48 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


I just downloaded this.  Pretty nice.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 7:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] event identification


There is a tool out there called "mztools"  http://www.mztools.com/ that
allows you to on a single click add the error handling code you are
seeking (ie, the name of the calling function/sub)  In this way you will
know if it was the After/Before/Current event that triggered the error.

btw, I noticed that now they support .net, but are now a pay service :|
but at least 3.0 is still free :)


On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:21:11 -0500, Susan Harkins
<ssharkins at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> BTW, does anyone have a good online resource for an explanation of the

> Access event model -- sequence and what's going on behind the scenes? 
> I
just
> need to check things before I go on record and in my usual
search-challenged
> way, I can't find anything worth squat. :(
> 
> Susan H.
> 
> 
> 
> That's what I thought. Thanks guys!
> 
> Susan H.
> 
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From JColby at dispec.com  Wed Nov 10 11:32:41 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:32:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF96A@DISABILITYINS01>

I downloaded the 3.0 for VBA.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 12:17 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


Which one, John?  They're both nice. <g>

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 7:48 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


I just downloaded this.  Pretty nice.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 7:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] event identification


There is a tool out there called "mztools"  http://www.mztools.com/ that
allows you to on a single click add the error handling code you are
seeking (ie, the name of the calling function/sub)  In this way you will
know if it was the After/Before/Current event that triggered the error.

btw, I noticed that now they support .net, but are now a pay service :|
but at least 3.0 is still free :)


On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:21:11 -0500, Susan Harkins
<ssharkins at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> BTW, does anyone have a good online resource for an explanation of the

> Access event model -- sequence and what's going on behind the scenes? 
> I
just
> need to check things before I go on record and in my usual
search-challenged
> way, I can't find anything worth squat. :(
> 
> Susan H.
> 
> 
> 
> That's what I thought. Thanks guys!
> 
> Susan H.
> 
> --
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Nov 10 11:55:10 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:55:10 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] event identification
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B69@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Try the 4.0 too.  You'll love it in .Net.  It drove me crazy not to have
my favorite tools (like the Find/replace and the ability to sort
procedure and close windows) there, so I was ecstatic when they released
4.0 and was quite willing to pay the minimal price for it.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:33 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


I downloaded the 3.0 for VBA.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 12:17 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


Which one, John?  They're both nice. <g>

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 7:48 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] event identification


I just downloaded this.  Pretty nice.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 7:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] event identification


There is a tool out there called "mztools"  http://www.mztools.com/ that
allows you to on a single click add the error handling code you are
seeking (ie, the name of the calling function/sub)  In this way you will
know if it was the After/Before/Current event that triggered the error.

btw, I noticed that now they support .net, but are now a pay service :|
but at least 3.0 is still free :)


On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:21:11 -0500, Susan Harkins
<ssharkins at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> BTW, does anyone have a good online resource for an explanation of the

> Access event model -- sequence and what's going on behind the scenes?
> I
just
> need to check things before I go on record and in my usual
search-challenged
> way, I can't find anything worth squat. :(
> 
> Susan H.
> 
> 
> 
> That's what I thought. Thanks guys!
> 
> Susan H.
> 
> --
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> 


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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 10 12:47:13 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:47:13 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Wait For Word To Finish Printing
References: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BD4@starfleet.unknown.local>
Message-ID: <41926231.2060405@shaw.ca>

Word normally prints in the background, so you might close Word while it 
is still generating the print file.

There are two ways to avoid this
   1.
 Set the Background parameter of the PrintOut method to False, so that 
the next line of code doesn't execute until the print file has been 
spooled to the printer queue.

ActiveDocument.Printout Background:=False
 
2.
 Check the BackgroundPrintingStatus property of Word's Application 
object, and don't close Word until the value reaches zero. To make sure 
that you aren't unnecessarily delaying the printing process by eating 
cycles within the same thread, use a timer that triggers a check every 
few seconds.

Generally, option #1 is safer, because Word can sometimes get a bit 
confused if asked to background print too many documents at once.


ACTEBS wrote:

>Guys,
>
>I have a function that prints out numerous Word documents on the fly which I loop through. The problem is the print job hasn't finished and a dialogue box pops up suggesting that "If you close word now the document print job will be cancelled"
>
>The code is as follows:
>
>    With m_objWord
>        .ActiveDocument.SaveAs strWrdPath
>        
>        If gBoolPrintOrNot = True Then
>            .ActiveDocument.PrintOut
>            DoEvents
>        End If
>        
>        .ActiveDocument.Close
>    End With
>    
>    m_objWord.Quit
>    Set m_objDoc = Nothing
>    Set m_objWord = Nothing
>
>It works well other than I have to close after I am finished as I don't want to leave variables in memory. Is there any way to wait until word has finished it's job?
>
>I have tried Dev's "ShellWait" function, but that is more geared to batch files rather than a windows app, and it's not the word document that is the process, it's word that is executing the process....
>
>Any guidance much appreciated...
>
>Vlad
>
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Wed Nov 10 14:20:04 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 15:20:04 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33936@nprdex02.nns.com>

Group,

I have two tables I would like to join.  Tbl1.Fld1 contains a
variable-length string, Tbl2.Fld2 contains the same variable-length string
concatenated with a variable-length suffix.

Any suggestions on how to proceed?  Is there an elegant solution?


Mark


From Susan.Klos at fldoe.org  Wed Nov 10 14:27:21 2004
From: Susan.Klos at fldoe.org (Klos, Susan)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 15:27:21 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] connecting to a network drive for the back end
Message-ID: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE73950@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.int>

I have a database which has the FE on each machine and the BE on a network
drive that is different from most of the rest of the network.  My boss logs
into the network drive with a different password than she uses for her
regular network login.  In order for her to have access to this drive she
needs to open it and when she gets the new login window put in her password.
The problem is that when she opens the FE it cannot find the "T" drive
because she hasn't gotten access to it yet.  She only goes to the T drive
when necessary to retrieve data.  She does not want to have to take this
extra step.  Sometimes she may have opened the T drive, but most of the time
probably not.  My problem is: How do I call the T drive login window for her
so she can put in the password whenever she opens the FE on her computer?

 

The application is set up such that whenever a user opens the FE on their
machine, the application grabs the network login ID.  I think I could pull
that password but it is different that the T drive password.

 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

850-245-0708 

sc 205-0708

 



From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Wed Nov 10 14:31:59 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 13:31:59 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Color the tab heads in a Tab Control?
Message-ID: <157240-2200411310203159140@christopherhawkins.com>

Yes, it's another eye-candy inquiry. :p

Are the tabs on a tab control color-able?  It looks pretty funky to
make the body of the tab control one color and leave the tabs
themselves battleship gray.

-C-
Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Nov 10 14:59:44 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 15:59:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables
In-Reply-To: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33936@nprdex02.nns.com>
Message-ID: <20041110205944.ECRU2429.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Is the problem the actual join syntax or the fact that there will never be a
match in the two fields? I'm guessing it's the latter, and if that's the
case, you could use a query expression to return just the variable-length
string (minus the suffix), and then join on that field. 

Sorry if I'm not understanding the problem. 

Susan H. 

Group,

I have two tables I would like to join.  Tbl1.Fld1 contains a
variable-length string, Tbl2.Fld2 contains the same variable-length string
concatenated with a variable-length suffix.

Any suggestions on how to proceed?  Is there an elegant solution?


Mark
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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Nov 10 16:58:00 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 17:58:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables
In-Reply-To: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33936@nprdex02.nns.com>
References: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33936@nprdex02.nns.com>
Message-ID: <41929CF8.7070802@rogers.com>

Mitsules, Mark wrote:

>Group,
>
>I have two tables I would like to join.  Tbl1.Fld1 contains a
>variable-length string, Tbl2.Fld2 contains the same variable-length string
>concatenated with a variable-length suffix.
>
>Any suggestions on how to proceed?  Is there an elegant solution?
>
>
>Mark
>  
>
At first blush I would try this:

SELECT * FROM T1 INNER JOIN T2 ON T1.Field1 = Left(T.2.Field1, 
LEN(T1.Field1))

Arthur


From jmhla at earthlink.net  Wed Nov 10 21:10:36 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 19:10:36 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] CheckDate?
In-Reply-To: <20041102101516.73568.qmail@web61109.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000601c4c79c$07f37d80$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

I used to know someone who would only use a calendar control for date input
to insure proper date.

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 2:15 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] CheckDate?

Hi group,
 
I created a routine that checks if a date is correct. Can anybody review
this one? I think that it's unnecessary complex.
 
TIA
 
Sander
If Not IsNull(txtExportDate) Then
        'Check month part
        If Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) > 12 Then
            'incorrect date!
        Else
            blnDate = True
        End If
        'Check day part
        Select Case Left(txtExportDate, 2)
        Case 31
            If (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 1) Or _
            (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 3) Or _
            (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 5) Or _
            (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 7) Or _
            (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 8) Or _
            (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 10) Or _
            (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 12) Then
                'correct day - month combi
                blnDate = True
            Else
                'incorrect day-month combi
                blnDate = False
            End If
        Case 30
            If (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 4) Or _
            (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 6) Or _
            (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 9) Or _
            (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 11) Then
                'correct day - month combi
                blnDate = True
            Else
                'incorrect day-month combi
                blnDate = False
            End If
        Case 28
            'Check if month is february
            If Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 2 Then
                'correct date
                blnDate = True
            Else
                'incorrectdate
                blnDate = False
            End If
        Case 1 To 27
            'correct day - month combi
            blnDate = True
        Case 29
            'Check if month is february
            If Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 2 Then
                'incorrect date
                blnDate = False
            Else
                'correctdate
                blnDate = True
            End If
        Case Else
            blnDate = False
        End Select
    Else
        'Null date
        Call MsgBox("U heeft geen exporteer datum opgegeven! Deze is
verplicht.", _
                     vbExclamation, "Onjuiste datum")
        txtExportDate.SetFocus
        Exit Sub
    End If
    If Not blnDate Then
        Call MsgBox("De datum die u heeft opgegeven is onjuist! " _
             & vbCrLf & "Vul een datum in met formaat: DD-MM-YYYY" _
             & vbCrLf & "" _
             , vbCritical, "Onjuiste datum")
        txtExportDate.SetFocus
        Exit Sub
    Else
 

			
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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Wed Nov 10 21:15:56 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 19:15:56 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Unused numbers?
In-Reply-To: <2F7BA03C93D17D48B13C42228C8FDAF27856CD@server.domain.local>
Message-ID: <000701c4c79c$c6356470$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

It is more trouble. Rarely if ever do you want to reuse a primary field
value.

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Chris Kettenbach
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 8:39 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Unused numbers?

I have an autonumber table of like 13000 records.  Does anyone have any
sample code to loop through the primary key field and find the numbers that
are missing?  Basically reuse old primary keys of deleted records. Maybe
it's more trouble than it's worth. Thanks All!!
CK
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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Wed Nov 10 21:18:59 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 19:18:59 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Missing months in a cross tab query
In-Reply-To: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE7393C@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.int>
Message-ID: <000801c4c79d$32e30c30$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

Susan,

I would have to find my sample but there is a way to force to hard code the
12 months in order for your cross tab.

E mail me off list if you need me to find my sample for you.

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Klos, Susan
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 7:39 AM
To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: [AccessD] Missing months in a crosstab query

I have the following crosstab query which I am using to bind to a report:

TRANSFORM Sum(tlnklodgingEvent.Guests) AS [Number]

SELECT IIf([weekend]=True,"Cabin occupancy/Weekend","Cabin
occupancy/Midweek") AS Type, "Cabin" AS Category

FROM tblEvent INNER JOIN tlnklodgingEvent ON tblEvent.InvoiceNo =
tlnklodgingEvent.EventID

WHERE (((tlnklodgingEvent.LodgingID)=5 Or (tlnklodgingEvent.LodgingID)=7 Or
(tlnklodgingEvent.LodgingID)=27 Or (tlnklodgingEvent.LodgingID)=30))

GROUP BY IIf([weekend]=True,"Cabin occupancy/Weekend","Cabin
occupancy/Midweek"), "Cabin"

PIVOT Month(tblEvent.Beginningdate);

 

I want to have the report show all months even though there may be no data
for a particular month.  In the above query, I get data for January through
June and September through December.  Nobody stayed in cabins during July
and August.  So in the report I want to show zeroes in those columns.  I
tried using text boxes and IIF statements to test for null but I knew that
wouldn't work because month numbers 7 and 8 aren't null they just don't
exist in the query.  I tried looking in help to see if there was an "if
exists" function to see if I could see if the field exists in the query.  I
couldn't find anything like that.  Should I be working at the query level
instead to have the query insert a zero if there are months missing?  If so
I will need help on that also.  Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

850-245-0708 

sc 205-0708

 

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From actebs at actebs.com.au  Thu Nov 11 00:18:40 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 17:18:40 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Wait For Word To Finish Printing
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD5055833280886C1@starfleet.unknown.local>

Marty,

Thanks. It fixed my problem. I love this list!

Vlad

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2004 5:47 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Wait For Word To Finish Printing


Word normally prints in the background, so you might close Word while it 
is still generating the print file.

There are two ways to avoid this
   1.
 Set the Background parameter of the PrintOut method to False, so that 
the next line of code doesn't execute until the print file has been 
spooled to the printer queue.

ActiveDocument.Printout Background:=False
 
2.
 Check the BackgroundPrintingStatus property of Word's Application 
object, and don't close Word until the value reaches zero. To make sure 
that you aren't unnecessarily delaying the printing process by eating 
cycles within the same thread, use a timer that triggers a check every 
few seconds.

Generally, option #1 is safer, because Word can sometimes get a bit 
confused if asked to background print too many documents at once.


ACTEBS wrote:

>Guys,
>
>I have a function that prints out numerous Word documents on the fly which I loop through. The problem is the print job hasn't finished and a dialogue box pops up suggesting that "If you close word now the document print job will be cancelled"
>
>The code is as follows:
>
>    With m_objWord
>        .ActiveDocument.SaveAs strWrdPath
>        
>        If gBoolPrintOrNot = True Then
>            .ActiveDocument.PrintOut
>            DoEvents
>        End If
>        
>        .ActiveDocument.Close
>    End With
>    
>    m_objWord.Quit
>    Set m_objDoc = Nothing
>    Set m_objWord = Nothing
>
>It works well other than I have to close after I am finished as I don't want to leave variables in memory. Is there any way to wait until word has finished it's job?
>
>I have tried Dev's "ShellWait" function, but that is more geared to batch files rather than a windows app, and it's not the word document that is the process, it's word that is executing the process....
>
>Any guidance much appreciated...
>
>Vlad
>
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



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From william.thompson1 at att.net  Thu Nov 11 00:27:56 2004
From: william.thompson1 at att.net (William Thompson)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 22:27:56 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] server? based trusted connection for multi-front-ends.
	Acc 200x SQL Server 2000 ; OLEDB.10.0
In-Reply-To: <000801c4c79d$32e30c30$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <200411110627.iAB6RoL19458@databaseadvisors.com>

Note that the trusted connection string below does not specify a database,
initially.

Using authentication on SQL Server, I was itching to get to the bottom of
how to query trusted connection (into or from an ADP) from Access to a
secure stored procedure running in a secure SQL Svr database - the
connection would be established to the server, while the Exec connects via
permissions within the sproc to the database (the db would be 'locked
down').

I'm not sure if this is the sole domain of Excel 2000+ pivot tables, or if a
similarly robust and secure connection can be obtained from Access.  The
premise is that a Pivot table is run over data that is refreshed frequently
- a copy of the raw data is needed behind the scenes to ensure it's
captured.

I was wanting to eventually get a server based query using 
Provider=Microsoft.Access.OLEDB.10.0;
Data Provider=SQLOLEDB.1

... somehow instead of the ODBC based connection utlized in the Fabrikami
sample on MSDN:

reportQuery = "EXECUTE Finance..xlExpenseReport"
reportConnection = "ODBC;DRIVER=SQL
Server;SERVER=FABRIKAM1;Trusted_Connection=Yes"

After having initially explored loading what would apparently be a secure
stored procedure (i.e. suser_sname() having exec, select on sproc) at
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/fabrikam/ht
ml/odc_ofexpense_report_solution_excel2003template.asp 

...and using various Excel examples, particularly...

http://www.excelkb.com/article.aspx?id=10132
and its companion article at http://www.excelkb.com/article.aspx?id=10131

... and at
http://vyaskn.tripod.com/row_level_security_in_sql_server_databases.htm

I didn't get as far as I wanted to with the code, but I managed to hammer
out the Excel based code below - including the sproc - it should work for
the benefit of anyone having SQL server and Excel or Access wanting to
document schema quickly.  Any ideas on how to 'mirror' recordsets i.e.
connect a pivot table, then Access for raw underlying data via two
connections with the same exec string would be greatly appreciated.  The web
examples as cited above instruct on how to set up row level permissions
quickly (which I think/hope is the purpose of the painstaking focus on
trusted connections here and in Access).

Private Sub CommencePivot1()
''' Using trusted connection in front-end
    Dim startDate As String
    Dim endDate As String
    Dim currencyCode As String
    Dim pivotTableName As String
    Dim invalidDateErrorText As String
    Dim startDateErrorText As String
    Dim reportQuery As String
    Dim reportConnection As String
    Dim formatCast As String

    Application.ScreenUpdating = False

    'Data input validation
    SelectASheet ("Sheet1")
    pivotTableName = "PivotTable1"
    
    'Initialize variables
    strDatabase = CStr(Trim(InputBox("Enter Database Name to display
Schema", "Query Macro", "Test Source")))
    reportQuery = "EXECUTE pubs..pr_tmpSchema '" + strDatabase + "'"
    reportConnection = "ODBC;DRIVER=SQL
Server;SERVER=myServer;Trusted_Connection=Yes"

    On Error GoTo ErrorHandler

    With ActiveSheet.PivotTables(pivotTableName)
        .PivotCache.Connection = reportConnection
        ''  Careful not to mash this together with another Pivot table.
'' Keep ado and odbc separate (at least in Excel)
        .PivotCache.CommandText = reportQuery
        .PivotCache.Refresh
    End With

    'Save input parameters to spreadsheet
    ActiveSheet.Range("F2").Value = strDatabase
    ActiveSheet.Range("F3").Value = "Tap Pivot Source"
    
    SelectASheet("QTable")
    ''' would branch another connection rendering the same rst to
    ''' preferably Access if secure or 2nd front-end
    ''' ?? CreateQueryTable(reportquery)
    Application.ScreenUpdating = True

exithere:
    Exit Sub
    
ErrorHandler:
    MsgBox Err.Number & " - " & Err.Description
    Resume exithere
   
End Sub
Public Sub SelectASheet(ByVal strSheetName As String)
    Sheets(strSheetName).Select
exithere:
    Exit Sub
errhandler:
    MsgBox Err.Description & " " & "You may want to create or synchronize"
    Resume exithere
    
End Sub

'' -- The Stored Proc follows - may come in handy for documentation
'' -- Exec pr_tmpSchema NameOfDatabase //you want documented.
'' -- Simulates more or less restricted access
CREATE PROC pr_tmpSchema 
@strDatabaseName varchar(75)
As
Declare @SQL varchar(8000)
Declare @CleanupSQL varchar(8000)
Declare @tablename nvarchar(75)

IF @@ERROR <> 0 PRINT "ERROR IN DECLARATION"
-- I didn't have time to pull this @tablename 
-- structure out - it does nothing here
Select  @tablename = 'tmpTemp1'
Select @CleanupSQL = ('IF EXISTS (SELECT name FROM sysobjects ' + 
    ' WHERE name = ''' + @tablename + ''' AND type = ''U'') ' +
      'DROP TABLE ' + @tablename)
EXEC (@CleanupSQL)
IF EXISTS (SELECT name FROM sysobjects 
    WHERE name = 'tmpTemp1' AND type = 'U')
     EXEC ('DROP TABLE ' + @tablename)
-- SELECT @strGetDBSQL = 'USE ' + @DBName + ' GO'
  SET NOCOUNT ON
  BEGIN
  SELECT @SQL = ('USE ' +  @strDatabaseName + ' Select TABLE_CATALOG =
Left(TABLE_CATALOG, 75),' +
   ' TABLE_SCHEMA = Left(TABLE_SCHEMA, 30), TABLE_NAME = Left(TABLE_NAME,
75),' +
   'COLUMN_NAME = Left(COLUMN_NAME, 75),DATA_TYPE = Left(DATA_TYPE, 30),
CHARACTER_MAXIMUM_LENGTH  = Left(CHARACTER_MAXIMUM_LENGTH, 30),' +
   'IS_NULLABLE = Left(IS_NULLABLE, 10), COLUMN_DEFAULT =
LEFT(COLUMN_DEFAULT, 255)' + 
   'From Information_Schema.columns ' +  
   'Where Table_Name like ''%''' +
   ' And Table_Name in (Select Table_Name from Information_Schema.Tables
WHERE TABLE_TYPE = ''BASE TABLE'')' +
   ' And Table_Name not like ''dt%''') 
-- --------------
-- print 'Test4:'
-- SELECT @SQL
-- --------------
-- ran out of time to explore COLUMN_DEFAULT)
-- --------------
   EXEC(@SQL)
   END

* * *
Bill Thompson,
Washington State, U.S.



From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov 11 04:22:36 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 11:22:36 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] connecting to a network drive for the back end
In-Reply-To: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE73950@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.int>
References: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE73950@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.int>
Message-ID: <1628525408.20041111112236@cactus.dk>

Hi Susan

You can run a Shell command like:

  net use T: \\server\share password /user:username

/gustav


> I have a database which has the FE on each machine and the BE on a network
> drive that is different from most of the rest of the network.  My boss logs
> into the network drive with a different password than she uses for her
> regular network login.  In order for her to have access to this drive she
> needs to open it and when she gets the new login window put in her password.
> The problem is that when she opens the FE it cannot find the "T" drive
> because she hasn't gotten access to it yet.  She only goes to the T drive
> when necessary to retrieve data.  She does not want to have to take this
> extra step.  Sometimes she may have opened the T drive, but most of the time
> probably not.  My problem is: How do I call the T drive login window for her
> so she can put in the password whenever she opens the FE on her computer?

> The application is set up such that whenever a user opens the FE on their
> machine, the application grabs the network login ID.  I think I could pull
> that password but it is different that the T drive password.



From Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk  Thu Nov 11 04:50:05 2004
From: Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk (Paul Rodgers)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 10:50:05 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access with a MySQL database
Message-ID: <EAF3070ACB1AD81182280002A51EF731192345@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>

Hi Arthur

I'd be very much obliged if you could let us/me know  when your words on
MsSql are published on a website.

Thanks very much for the info here which is most useful. 

Cheers

paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com]
Sent: 28 October 2004 02:54
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access with a MySQL database


MartyConnelly wrote:

> Something I came across from an ASP perspective
> http://www.aspfree.com/c/a/Microsoft-Access/An-Access-Front-End-to-MySQL/
>
> Barbara Ryan wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have any experience using an Access application as a 
>> front-end to a MySQL database back-end?  My client is interested in 
>> converting the Access back-end to either SQL Server or MySQL.  They 
>> currently do not own SQL Server but are using MySQL in their web 
>> application.
>>
>> Any thoughts (advantages, limitations, etc.)?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Barb Ryan
>>  
>>
>
Hmph. I thought I answered this already, but it must have been a senior 
moment. I have been there and done that extensively, for the book (that 
was cancelled, and will soon re-emerge as a web site) my partner Peter 
Brawley and I wrote about MySQL.
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From Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk  Thu Nov 11 05:05:56 2004
From: Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk (Paul Rodgers)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 11:05:56 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Function No Go
Message-ID: <EAF3070ACB1AD81182280002A51EF731192346@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>

A new machine comes my way, and beautiful as it is, it is too haughty for
Functions. 'Functon is not available in expressions in query expression ...
' and then quotes the simplest function I've been using for ages. Is there a
Preference or some sort to encourage it to think differently, please.
Access2K. Cheers
paul 



From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov 11 05:07:07 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 12:07:07 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables
In-Reply-To: <41929CF8.7070802@rogers.com>
References: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33936@nprdex02.nns.com>
	<41929CF8.7070802@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <4311196319.20041111120707@cactus.dk>

Hi Mark and Arthur

That may work but you'll be in trouble when trying to switch to design
view.
I would create a query for Tbl2 with a field with the expression
needed to match the Tbl1.Fld1. Then use this query for Tbl1 whenever
you need to join Tbl1 and Tbl2.

/gustav


>>I have two tables I would like to join.  Tbl1.Fld1 contains a
>>variable-length string, Tbl2.Fld2 contains the same variable-length string
>>concatenated with a variable-length suffix.
>>
>>Any suggestions on how to proceed?  Is there an elegant solution?
>>
>>Mark

> At first blush I would try this:
>
> SELECT * FROM T1 INNER JOIN T2 ON T1.Field1 = Left(T.2.Field1, 
> LEN(T1.Field1))

> Arthur



From jmhla at earthlink.net  Thu Nov 11 07:00:45 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 05:00:45 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Function No Go
In-Reply-To: <EAF3070ACB1AD81182280002A51EF731192346@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <200411111300.iABD0mL10482@databaseadvisors.com>

Are you missing library references not being loaded into the new machine?

Joe Hecht
jmhla at earthlink.net
28g
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Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 3:06 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Function No Go

A new machine comes my way, and beautiful as it is, it is too haughty for
Functions. 'Functon is not available in expressions in query expression ...
' and then quotes the simplest function I've been using for ages. Is there a
Preference or some sort to encourage it to think differently, please.
Access2K. Cheers
paul 

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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Nov 11 07:13:28 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 08:13:28 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Function No Go
In-Reply-To: <EAF3070ACB1AD81182280002A51EF731192346@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKCEOIKMAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

As Joe said, it's references.

 Open a module in design view, click tools/references.  Look for any listed
as MISSING or BROKEN.  If they are, you'll need to figure out why.  If none
are, check any unchecked reference, close the MDB and Access, re-open and
uncheck the reference just checked.  Then try a compile.

  If still no go then a lib needs to be re-registered with regsvr32 (usually
it's DAO).

Jim Dettman


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Subject: [AccessD] Function No Go


A new machine comes my way, and beautiful as it is, it is too haughty for
Functions. 'Functon is not available in expressions in query expression ...
' and then quotes the simplest function I've been using for ages. Is there a
Preference or some sort to encourage it to think differently, please.
Access2K. Cheers
paul

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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Nov 11 07:35:09 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 08:35:09 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33939@nprdex02.nns.com>

Thank you all for the comments.

That is exactly what I ended up doing.  But since I lack the SQL "guru"
certification ;) I thought I'd put the question out there.  I was thinking
back to a thread a long while back regarding a method that creates a sort of
temporary table within one query...or something along those lines.  I didn't
know if/how that method might apply to my situation.

Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 6:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


Hi Mark and Arthur

That may work but you'll be in trouble when trying to switch to design
view.
I would create a query for Tbl2 with a field with the expression
needed to match the Tbl1.Fld1. Then use this query for Tbl1 whenever
you need to join Tbl1 and Tbl2.

/gustav


>>I have two tables I would like to join.  Tbl1.Fld1 contains a
>>variable-length string, Tbl2.Fld2 contains the same variable-length string
>>concatenated with a variable-length suffix.
>>
>>Any suggestions on how to proceed?  Is there an elegant solution?
>>
>>Mark

> At first blush I would try this:
>
> SELECT * FROM T1 INNER JOIN T2 ON T1.Field1 = Left(T.2.Field1, 
> LEN(T1.Field1))

> Arthur

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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Thu Nov 11 08:23:06 2004
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:23:06 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] CheckDate?
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A278D@xlivmbx21.aig.com>


I'm one of those odd people who always use a calendar form (not the MS
Active-X control) for date entering, but if you really must allow those
whacko users to type a date in a box then what's wrong with this code...

Dim bIsValideDate As Boolean
	bIsValideDate =isDate(txtYourFormControl)
	If bIsValideDate  Then
		...
	Else
		MsgBox "Can you at least type a valid date in the box!
	End If

Is that sufficiently uncomplex :-)

"isDate()" is a built in function.

Lambert

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> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
> Sent:	Wednesday, November 10, 2004 10:11 PM
> To:	'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject:	RE: [AccessD] CheckDate?
> 
> I used to know someone who would only use a calendar control for date
> input
> to insure proper date.
> 
> JOE HECHT
> LOS ANGELES CA 
>  jmhla at earthlink.net
> 
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> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of S D
> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 2:15 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] CheckDate?
> 
> Hi group,
>  
> I created a routine that checks if a date is correct. Can anybody review
> this one? I think that it's unnecessary complex.
>  
> TIA
>  
> Sander
> If Not IsNull(txtExportDate) Then
>         'Check month part
>         If Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) > 12 Then
>             'incorrect date!
>         Else
>             blnDate = True
>         End If
>         'Check day part
>         Select Case Left(txtExportDate, 2)
>         Case 31
>             If (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 1) Or _
>             (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 3) Or _
>             (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 5) Or _
>             (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 7) Or _
>             (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 8) Or _
>             (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 10) Or _
>             (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 12) Then
>                 'correct day - month combi
>                 blnDate = True
>             Else
>                 'incorrect day-month combi
>                 blnDate = False
>             End If
>         Case 30
>             If (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 4) Or _
>             (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 6) Or _
>             (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 9) Or _
>             (Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 11) Then
>                 'correct day - month combi
>                 blnDate = True
>             Else
>                 'incorrect day-month combi
>                 blnDate = False
>             End If
>         Case 28
>             'Check if month is february
>             If Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 2 Then
>                 'correct date
>                 blnDate = True
>             Else
>                 'incorrectdate
>                 blnDate = False
>             End If
>         Case 1 To 27
>             'correct day - month combi
>             blnDate = True
>         Case 29
>             'Check if month is february
>             If Mid(txtExportDate, 4, 2) = 2 Then
>                 'incorrect date
>                 blnDate = False
>             Else
>                 'correctdate
>                 blnDate = True
>             End If
>         Case Else
>             blnDate = False
>         End Select
>     Else
>         'Null date
>         Call MsgBox("U heeft geen exporteer datum opgegeven! Deze is
> verplicht.", _
>                      vbExclamation, "Onjuiste datum")
>         txtExportDate.SetFocus
>         Exit Sub
>     End If
>     If Not blnDate Then
>         Call MsgBox("De datum die u heeft opgegeven is onjuist! " _
>              & vbCrLf & "Vul een datum in met formaat: DD-MM-YYYY" _
>              & vbCrLf & "" _
>              , vbCritical, "Onjuiste datum")
>         txtExportDate.SetFocus
>         Exit Sub
>     Else
>  
> 
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov 11 09:05:40 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 16:05:40 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] SQLiteDB, tiny engine
Message-ID: <16625509500.20041111160540@cactus.dk>

Hi all

For those of you looking for an alternative SQL server engine which
will run on both Linux and Windows, have a look here for an Open
Source completely free *tiny_tiny* basic engine:

  http://www.terrainformatica.com/users/george/index.html

Note that you will have to manually register the dll.

<quote>

SQLiteDB is a full database engine in a ~330Kb DLL built as an ATL
COM wrapper over sqlite. And it is *fast* ..."

SQLiteDB's object model is similar to ADO, featuring both a
Connection and Recordset object. There are, however, differences
between the libraries:  

 - SQLiteDB does not include a Fields Collection; the main reason for
this is simplicity and speed. 

 - ADO is only a library to connect to other database engines, SQLiteDB
is both the database engine and the library to connect to it. 

</quote>

SQLite (mostly for C++ people) is here:

  http://www.sqlite.org


/gustav



From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Nov 11 09:39:59 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 10:39:59 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F3393F@nprdex02.nns.com>

Group,

Someone has this at the top of their head or near their
fingertips...hopefully.  In a query, what is the syntax to add a running
recordcount column?  Thanks.


Mark


From DElam at jenkens.com  Thu Nov 11 09:49:08 2004
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:49:08 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Import from .prn File
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C02485711@natexch.jenkens.com>

I am trying to import some data from a .prn file.  When I open the file in
notepad it gives me gibberish, so I assume I will need to open it or convert
it with specific software.  I found a trial version of ABC Amber CSV
converter.  It claims to be able to convert a .prn to an Excel spreadsheet.
The trial version only imports 10 records, and they look just like the
gibberish in notepad, just put into columns.  I am a little reluctant to
spring even for $14.95  given the trial performance, but I have not found
anything else to allow me to read this file properly.

Does anyone have suggestions about how to import this file into Access?

Debbie
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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Nov 11 10:08:10 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 11:08:10 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Import from .prn File
In-Reply-To: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C02485711@natexch.jenkens.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKKEPEKMAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Debbie,

<<Does anyone have suggestions about how to import this file into Access?>>

  Not to be flippant, but don't<g>.

  The contents of a .prn file are dependant on the printer driver used to
create it.  If you have no control over that, then  the contents and
encoding of that file could/will be different from one file to the next.

  If you do have control over the file creation, use the Generic Text Only
driver to produce it.  You should be able to use the Access Import Wizard at
that point or use VB code to read it in line by line.

Jim Dettman


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Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:49 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Import from .prn File


I am trying to import some data from a .prn file.  When I open the file in
notepad it gives me gibberish, so I assume I will need to open it or convert
it with specific software.  I found a trial version of ABC Amber CSV
converter.  It claims to be able to convert a .prn to an Excel spreadsheet.
The trial version only imports 10 records, and they look just like the
gibberish in notepad, just put into columns.  I am a little reluctant to
spring even for $14.95  given the trial performance, but I have not found
anything else to allow me to read this file properly.

Does anyone have suggestions about how to import this file into Access?

Debbie
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Nov 11 10:09:58 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 02:09:58 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Import from .prn File
In-Reply-To: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C02485711@natexch.jenkens.com>
Message-ID: <41941B76.29714.70C62D@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 11 Nov 2004 at 9:49, Elam, Debbie wrote:

> I am trying to import some data from a .prn file.  When I open the file in
> notepad it gives me gibberish, so I assume I will need to open it or convert
> it with specific software.  I found a trial version of ABC Amber CSV
> converter.  It claims to be able to convert a .prn to an Excel spreadsheet.
> The trial version only imports 10 records, and they look just like the
> gibberish in notepad, just put into columns.  I am a little reluctant to
> spring even for $14.95  given the trial performance, but I have not found
> anything else to allow me to read this file properly.
> 
> Does anyone have suggestions about how to import this file into Access?
> 

If you have generated the .prn file by directing the output of a printer to 
file, you are probably putting out a graphic data dump not text so you will 
not be able to import it with ABC Amberm or amny other smilar tool

Recreate the file. This time use the "Generic/Text only" printer driver 
instead of the one you are currently using.




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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Nov 11 10:11:07 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 11:11:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field
In-Reply-To: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F3393F@nprdex02.nns.com>
Message-ID: <005901c4c809$11591c50$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Count(PK) as Cnt in the select clause

Where PK is the primary key

John W. Colby
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:40 AM
To: [AccessD]
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


Group,

Someone has this at the top of their head or near their
fingertips...hopefully.  In a query, what is the syntax to add a running
recordcount column?  Thanks.


Mark
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From DElam at jenkens.com  Thu Nov 11 10:25:00 2004
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 10:25:00 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Import from .prn File
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C02485715@natexch.jenkens.com>

Thanks, I will see if I can use a more generic printer driver to get the
file.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Import from .prn File


Debbie,

<<Does anyone have suggestions about how to import this file into Access?>>

  Not to be flippant, but don't<g>.

  The contents of a .prn file are dependant on the printer driver used to
create it.  If you have no control over that, then  the contents and
encoding of that file could/will be different from one file to the next.

  If you do have control over the file creation, use the Generic Text Only
driver to produce it.  You should be able to use the Access Import Wizard at
that point or use VB code to read it in line by line.

Jim Dettman


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:49 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Import from .prn File


I am trying to import some data from a .prn file.  When I open the file in
notepad it gives me gibberish, so I assume I will need to open it or convert
it with specific software.  I found a trial version of ABC Amber CSV
converter.  It claims to be able to convert a .prn to an Excel spreadsheet.
The trial version only imports 10 records, and they look just like the
gibberish in notepad, just put into columns.  I am a little reluctant to
spring even for $14.95  given the trial performance, but I have not found
anything else to allow me to read this file properly.

Does anyone have suggestions about how to import this file into Access?

Debbie
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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Nov 11 10:35:08 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 11:35:08 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field
In-Reply-To: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F3393F@nprdex02.nns.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKGEPHKMAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Mark,

  I think your saying you want the records numbered?

  I use a custom function:

Global glngGetLineCounter As Long

Function GetLineCounter(varName As Variant) As Long

  glngGetLineCounter = glngGetLineCounter + 1
  GetLineCounter = glngGetLineCounter

End Function

  Which I call from the query

LineNo:GetLineCounter(<somefieldname>)


  If you need this in a form or report though, add a control with a running
sum defaulted to 1.

Jim Dettman

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:40 AM
To: [AccessD]
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


Group,

Someone has this at the top of their head or near their
fingertips...hopefully.  In a query, what is the syntax to add a running
recordcount column?  Thanks.


Mark
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From James at fcidms.com  Thu Nov 11 11:12:18 2004
From: James at fcidms.com (James Barash)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 12:12:18 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Unable to Open or Design Reports
In-Reply-To: <006f01c4c6a7$04ba1ac0$f8c581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <0I70005JRYGIP8@mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

All:

I was visiting a client today who was having a problem with our system. None
of the reports would print or preview. From the database window, I was
unable to Preview or Design any of the existing reports and was unable to
create a new report, either using the Design View or the Report Wizard. I
created a blank database and also could not create any reports. Trying to
open or design did not produce any error message, but did not open a report
either. Using the Report Wizard, I got through all the prompts and after
clicking the Finished button, I got the message "Unable to Create Report" I
could create all the other types of objects: Tables, Queries, Forms, Macros
and Modules. The system was working as of last week and he assured me there
had been no changes to the computer since. Our system does work on other
computer in the same office.
	The system is a single file running on the local drive. The user
does have admin rights (create, read, write, update, delete) on the local
drive. The computer is running Windows XP (SP1) and Office 2003 (SP1). I
suggested that reloading Office would be the best thing to do but that has
to be done through their IT department and could take a while. Has anyone
seen this before and have a solution or any suggestions.

Thanks,

James Barash



From liz at symphonyinfo.com  Thu Nov 11 11:32:10 2004
From: liz at symphonyinfo.com (Liz Doering)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 11:32:10 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Unable to Open or Design Reports
In-Reply-To: <0I70005JRYGIP8@mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <E1CSInv-00030x-00@pop-a065d14.pas.sa.earthlink.net>

Did your client's computer have a default printer assigned?  If none is
assigned, Access won't do anything with reports.   

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of James Barash
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 11:12 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Unable to Open or Design Reports

All:

I was visiting a client today who was having a problem with our system. None
of the reports would print or preview. From the database window, I was
unable to Preview or Design any of the existing reports and was unable to
create a new report, either using the Design View or the Report Wizard. I
created a blank database and also could not create any reports. Trying to
open or design did not produce any error message, but did not open a report
either. Using the Report Wizard, I got through all the prompts and after
clicking the Finished button, I got the message "Unable to Create Report" I
could create all the other types of objects: Tables, Queries, Forms, Macros
and Modules. The system was working as of last week and he assured me there
had been no changes to the computer since. Our system does work on other
computer in the same office.
	The system is a single file running on the local drive. The user
does have admin rights (create, read, write, update, delete) on the local
drive. The computer is running Windows XP (SP1) and Office 2003 (SP1). I
suggested that reloading Office would be the best thing to do but that has
to be done through their IT department and could take a while. Has anyone
seen this before and have a solution or any suggestions.

Thanks,

James Barash

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov 11 11:34:59 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 18:34:59 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Unable to Open or Design Reports
In-Reply-To: <0I70005JRYGIP8@mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
References: <0I70005JRYGIP8@mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
Message-ID: <15734468543.20041111183459@cactus.dk>

Hi James

This sounds as if no default printer or no printer at all is
installed.

/gustav


> I was visiting a client today who was having a problem with our system. None
> of the reports would print or preview. From the database window, I was
> unable to Preview or Design any of the existing reports and was unable to
> create a new report, either using the Design View or the Report Wizard. I
> created a blank database and also could not create any reports. Trying to
> open or design did not produce any error message, but did not open a report
> either. Using the Report Wizard, I got through all the prompts and after
> clicking the Finished button, I got the message "Unable to Create Report" I
> could create all the other types of objects: Tables, Queries, Forms, Macros
> and Modules. The system was working as of last week and he assured me there
> had been no changes to the computer since. Our system does work on other
> computer in the same office.
>         The system is a single file running on the local drive. The user
> does have admin rights (create, read, write, update, delete) on the local
> drive. The computer is running Windows XP (SP1) and Office 2003 (SP1). I
> suggested that reloading Office would be the best thing to do but that has
> to be done through their IT department and could take a while. Has anyone
> seen this before and have a solution or any suggestions.

> Thanks,

> James Barash



From artful at rogers.com  Thu Nov 11 11:38:57 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 12:38:57 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access with a MySQL database
In-Reply-To: <EAF3070ACB1AD81182280002A51EF731192345@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>
References: <EAF3070ACB1AD81182280002A51EF731192345@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <4193A3B1.1010302@rogers.com>

Paul Rodgers wrote:

>Hi Arthur
>
>I'd be very much obliged if you could let us/me know  when your words on
>MsSql are published on a website.
>
>Thanks very much for the info here which is most useful. 
>
>Cheers
>
>paul
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com]
>Sent: 28 October 2004 02:54
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access with a MySQL database
>
>
>MartyConnelly wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Something I came across from an ASP perspective
>>http://www.aspfree.com/c/a/Microsoft-Access/An-Access-Front-End-to-MySQL/
>>
>>Barbara Ryan wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Does anyone have any experience using an Access application as a 
>>>front-end to a MySQL database back-end?  My client is interested in 
>>>converting the Access back-end to either SQL Server or MySQL.  They 
>>>currently do not own SQL Server but are using MySQL in their web 
>>>application.
>>>
>>>Any thoughts (advantages, limitations, etc.)?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Barb Ryan
>>> 
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>Hmph. I thought I answered this already, but it must have been a senior 
>moment. I have been there and done that extensively, for the book (that 
>was cancelled, and will soon re-emerge as a web site) my partner Peter 
>Brawley and I wrote about MySQL.
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>  
>
Thanks for asking. It shouldn't be a whole lot longer now; we're 
proofing it currently. (We = my long-time partner Peter Brawley and I.) 
I'm not sure how much of the "book" will be of interest to Access 
developers. One chatper in the ODBC section takes you step by step 
through porting Northwind to MySQL and then modifying the Access app to 
talk to the MySQL Northwind database. Actually there's not much to it, 
and I can thumbnail it here.

There's really only one thing to worry about. Before converting, it's 
useful to add a timestamp column to each table -- just make it a 
DateTime column and default it to "=Now()".

1. Install MySQL and make sure it works.
2. Create a Northwind database in MySQL.
3. Install MyODBC.
4. Copy Northwind.MDB to NorthwindMySQL.MDB. Delete all the tables.
5. Create a DSN that uses MyODBC and points to the Northwind MySQL database.
6. Open the NorthwindMySQL.mdb and then the linked tables manager and 
point to the DSN.
7. Import all the tables.
8. You'll have problems with a few queries. I forget which ones offhand 
and don't have the chapter in front of me, but the chapter details which 
ones need changing and specifies the changes.

Arthur



From artful at rogers.com  Thu Nov 11 11:44:55 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 12:44:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables
In-Reply-To: <4311196319.20041111120707@cactus.dk>
References: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33936@nprdex02.nns.com>	<41929CF8.7070802@rogers.com>
	<4311196319.20041111120707@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <4193A517.1050002@rogers.com>

Gustav Brock wrote:

>Hi Mark and Arthur
>
>That may work but you'll be in trouble when trying to switch to design
>view.
>  
>
>
Design view is for wieners. In fact monitors are for wieners. Real 
programmers don't use compilers, they write compilers. Real programmers 
don't even need keyboards. They use voice-recognition software and emit 
ones and zeroes for a long time, and the results are vastly successful 
applications and games.


From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Nov 11 12:08:00 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 13:08:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33944@nprdex02.nns.com>

John, Jim,

Gentlemen...we have a problem:)

Both of these approaches produce the same results (probably a good thing),
however the results are not what I expected.  My uneducated guess is that I
should have mentioned that this is for an aggregate query.  So what these
methods end up producing is a count of each GroupBy.  Any suggestions?


Mark




-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 11:35 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


Mark,

  I think your saying you want the records numbered?

  I use a custom function:

Global glngGetLineCounter As Long

Function GetLineCounter(varName As Variant) As Long

  glngGetLineCounter = glngGetLineCounter + 1
  GetLineCounter = glngGetLineCounter

End Function

  Which I call from the query

LineNo:GetLineCounter(<somefieldname>)


  If you need this in a form or report though, add a control with a running
sum defaulted to 1.

Jim Dettman

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:40 AM
To: [AccessD]
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


Group,

Someone has this at the top of their head or near their
fingertips...hopefully.  In a query, what is the syntax to add a running
recordcount column?  Thanks.


Mark
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Thu Nov 11 12:36:56 2004
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 13:36:56 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A279B@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

'fraid not. That will just give you "1" in every row (after you've turn the
query into a Totals query, .Count(PK) as Cnt simply wont work at all in a
standard select query).

My question is why you want to do this in a query? If the end result it to
be used in a report or a form then you don't need to modify the query,
instead you modify the report or form to use the RunningSum property. It's
all there in the on-line help.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
> Sent:	Thursday, November 11, 2004 11:11 AM
> To:	'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject:	RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field
> 
> Count(PK) as Cnt in the select clause
> 
> Where PK is the primary key
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com 
> 
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:40 AM
> To: [AccessD]
> Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field
> 
> 
> Group,
> 
> Someone has this at the top of their head or near their
> fingertips...hopefully.  In a query, what is the syntax to add a running
> recordcount column?  Thanks.
> 
> 
> Mark
> -- 
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Nov 11 12:41:45 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 13:41:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field
In-Reply-To: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33944@nprdex02.nns.com>
Message-ID: <005e01c4c81e$1c78a820$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

You want just an incrementing number?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


John, Jim,

Gentlemen...we have a problem:)

Both of these approaches produce the same results (probably a good thing),
however the results are not what I expected.  My uneducated guess is that I
should have mentioned that this is for an aggregate query.  So what these
methods end up producing is a count of each GroupBy.  Any suggestions?


Mark




-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 11:35 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


Mark,

  I think your saying you want the records numbered?

  I use a custom function:

Global glngGetLineCounter As Long

Function GetLineCounter(varName As Variant) As Long

  glngGetLineCounter = glngGetLineCounter + 1
  GetLineCounter = glngGetLineCounter

End Function

  Which I call from the query

LineNo:GetLineCounter(<somefieldname>)


  If you need this in a form or report though, add a control with a running
sum defaulted to 1.

Jim Dettman

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:40 AM
To: [AccessD]
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


Group,

Someone has this at the top of their head or near their
fingertips...hopefully.  In a query, what is the syntax to add a running
recordcount column?  Thanks.


Mark
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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Nov 11 12:46:15 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 13:46:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field
In-Reply-To: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33944@nprdex02.nns.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKGEABKNAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Mark,

  Still should have numbered each row in the final output. I just tried it
here and it works fine.

SELECT tblLookupControl.FormName, GetLineCounter([FormName]) AS LineNumber
FROM tblLookupControl
GROUP BY tblLookupControl.FormName;

  I'm not clear on how you ended up with the same result with the two
methods either.  If I do:

SELECT tblLookupControl.FormName, Count([FormName]) AS LineNumber
FROM tblLookupControl
GROUP BY tblLookupControl.FormName;

  I get the number of occurrences within each group.

Jim Dettman


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


John, Jim,

Gentlemen...we have a problem:)

Both of these approaches produce the same results (probably a good thing),
however the results are not what I expected.  My uneducated guess is that I
should have mentioned that this is for an aggregate query.  So what these
methods end up producing is a count of each GroupBy.  Any suggestions?


Mark




-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 11:35 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


Mark,

  I think your saying you want the records numbered?

  I use a custom function:

Global glngGetLineCounter As Long

Function GetLineCounter(varName As Variant) As Long

  glngGetLineCounter = glngGetLineCounter + 1
  GetLineCounter = glngGetLineCounter

End Function

  Which I call from the query

LineNo:GetLineCounter(<somefieldname>)


  If you need this in a form or report though, add a control with a running
sum defaulted to 1.

Jim Dettman

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:40 AM
To: [AccessD]
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


Group,

Someone has this at the top of their head or near their
fingertips...hopefully.  In a query, what is the syntax to add a running
recordcount column?  Thanks.


Mark
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Nov 11 13:25:19 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 14:25:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33947@nprdex02.nns.com>

Lambert,

My current method does utilize the RunningSum property.  This question
loosely relates to a previous thread regarding table joins.  I'm hoping to
eventually run across the subject of subqueries in my archives which ties
these two threads together.

Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:37 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


'fraid not. That will just give you "1" in every row (after you've turn the
query into a Totals query, .Count(PK) as Cnt simply wont work at all in a
standard select query).

My question is why you want to do this in a query? If the end result it to
be used in a report or a form then you don't need to modify the query,
instead you modify the report or form to use the RunningSum property. It's
all there in the on-line help.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
> Sent:	Thursday, November 11, 2004 11:11 AM
> To:	'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject:	RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field
> 
> Count(PK) as Cnt in the select clause
> 
> Where PK is the primary key
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com 
> 
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:40 AM
> To: [AccessD]
> Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field
> 
> 
> Group,
> 
> Someone has this at the top of their head or near their
> fingertips...hopefully.  In a query, what is the syntax to add a running
> recordcount column?  Thanks.
> 
> 
> Mark
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Nov 11 13:26:54 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 14:26:54 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33948@nprdex02.nns.com>

Jim,

Would you be willing to look at the SQL off-list?

Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:46 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


Mark,

  Still should have numbered each row in the final output. I just tried it
here and it works fine.

SELECT tblLookupControl.FormName, GetLineCounter([FormName]) AS LineNumber
FROM tblLookupControl
GROUP BY tblLookupControl.FormName;

  I'm not clear on how you ended up with the same result with the two
methods either.  If I do:

SELECT tblLookupControl.FormName, Count([FormName]) AS LineNumber
FROM tblLookupControl
GROUP BY tblLookupControl.FormName;

  I get the number of occurrences within each group.

Jim Dettman


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


John, Jim,

Gentlemen...we have a problem:)

Both of these approaches produce the same results (probably a good thing),
however the results are not what I expected.  My uneducated guess is that I
should have mentioned that this is for an aggregate query.  So what these
methods end up producing is a count of each GroupBy.  Any suggestions?


Mark




-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 11:35 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


Mark,

  I think your saying you want the records numbered?

  I use a custom function:

Global glngGetLineCounter As Long

Function GetLineCounter(varName As Variant) As Long

  glngGetLineCounter = glngGetLineCounter + 1
  GetLineCounter = glngGetLineCounter

End Function

  Which I call from the query

LineNo:GetLineCounter(<somefieldname>)


  If you need this in a form or report though, add a control with a running
sum defaulted to 1.

Jim Dettman

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:40 AM
To: [AccessD]
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


Group,

Someone has this at the top of their head or near their
fingertips...hopefully.  In a query, what is the syntax to add a running
recordcount column?  Thanks.


Mark
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Nov 11 14:01:28 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 12:01:28 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables
In-Reply-To: <4193A517.1050002@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIMEBCCIAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Arthur:

Do I catch a very subtle note of sarcasm or should I be seriously
reconsidering my programming style?

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 9:45 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


Gustav Brock wrote:

>Hi Mark and Arthur
>
>That may work but you'll be in trouble when trying to switch to design
>view.
>
>
>
Design view is for wieners. In fact monitors are for wieners. Real
programmers don't use compilers, they write compilers. Real programmers
don't even need keyboards. They use voice-recognition software and emit
ones and zeroes for a long time, and the results are vastly successful
applications and games.
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From lists at theopg.com  Thu Nov 11 14:05:04 2004
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:05:04 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables
In-Reply-To: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33939@nprdex02.nns.com>
Message-ID: <000201c4c829$bcfa6f80$d30d6bd5@netboxxp>

Didn't read the whole thread so sorry if this has been done...

You don?t need a join, you can just use criteria if you like (not
necessarilly very eficient though?)

E.g. "SELECT a.*, b.* FROM a, b WHERE a.col1=mid(b.col2,3)"

Hth

Mark

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules,
Mark
Sent: 11 November 2004 13:35
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


Thank you all for the comments.

That is exactly what I ended up doing.  But since I lack the SQL "guru"
certification ;) I thought I'd put the question out there.  I was
thinking back to a thread a long while back regarding a method that
creates a sort of temporary table within one query...or something along
those lines.  I didn't know if/how that method might apply to my
situation.

Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 6:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


Hi Mark and Arthur

That may work but you'll be in trouble when trying to switch to design
view. I would create a query for Tbl2 with a field with the expression
needed to match the Tbl1.Fld1. Then use this query for Tbl1 whenever you
need to join Tbl1 and Tbl2.

/gustav


>>I have two tables I would like to join.  Tbl1.Fld1 contains a 
>>variable-length string, Tbl2.Fld2 contains the same variable-length 
>>string concatenated with a variable-length suffix.
>>
>>Any suggestions on how to proceed?  Is there an elegant solution?
>>
>>Mark

> At first blush I would try this:
>
> SELECT * FROM T1 INNER JOIN T2 ON T1.Field1 = Left(T.2.Field1,
> LEN(T1.Field1))

> Arthur

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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Nov 11 14:29:55 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 15:29:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33949@nprdex02.nns.com>

Yes, for each record returned by the query.
In the example below, it would be fldItem.


A simple example:
fldItem  fldName  fldScore
1        Tom      90
2        Dick     95
3        Harry    93


Mark




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Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:42 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


You want just an incrementing number?

John W. Colby
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John, Jim,

Gentlemen...we have a problem:)

Both of these approaches produce the same results (probably a good thing),
however the results are not what I expected.  My uneducated guess is that I
should have mentioned that this is for an aggregate query.  So what these
methods end up producing is a count of each GroupBy.  Any suggestions?


Mark




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Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 11:35 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


Mark,

  I think your saying you want the records numbered?

  I use a custom function:

Global glngGetLineCounter As Long

Function GetLineCounter(varName As Variant) As Long

  glngGetLineCounter = glngGetLineCounter + 1
  GetLineCounter = glngGetLineCounter

End Function

  Which I call from the query

LineNo:GetLineCounter(<somefieldname>)


  If you need this in a form or report though, add a control with a running
sum defaulted to 1.

Jim Dettman

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Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


Group,

Someone has this at the top of their head or near their
fingertips...hopefully.  In a query, what is the syntax to add a running
recordcount column?  Thanks.


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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Nov 11 14:44:39 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 15:44:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F3394A@nprdex02.nns.com>

Thanks for the suggestion.  In this instance, since I'm dealing with < 10K
records I wonder if efficiency would be noteworthy?


Mark




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From: MarkH [mailto:lists at theopg.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 3:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


Didn't read the whole thread so sorry if this has been done...

You don't need a join, you can just use criteria if you like (not
necessarilly very eficient though?)

E.g. "SELECT a.*, b.* FROM a, b WHERE a.col1=mid(b.col2,3)"

Hth

Mark

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules,
Mark
Sent: 11 November 2004 13:35
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


Thank you all for the comments.

That is exactly what I ended up doing.  But since I lack the SQL "guru"
certification ;) I thought I'd put the question out there.  I was
thinking back to a thread a long while back regarding a method that
creates a sort of temporary table within one query...or something along
those lines.  I didn't know if/how that method might apply to my
situation.

Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 6:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


Hi Mark and Arthur

That may work but you'll be in trouble when trying to switch to design
view. I would create a query for Tbl2 with a field with the expression
needed to match the Tbl1.Fld1. Then use this query for Tbl1 whenever you
need to join Tbl1 and Tbl2.

/gustav


>>I have two tables I would like to join.  Tbl1.Fld1 contains a 
>>variable-length string, Tbl2.Fld2 contains the same variable-length 
>>string concatenated with a variable-length suffix.
>>
>>Any suggestions on how to proceed?  Is there an elegant solution?
>>
>>Mark

> At first blush I would try this:
>
> SELECT * FROM T1 INNER JOIN T2 ON T1.Field1 = Left(T.2.Field1,
> LEN(T1.Field1))

> Arthur

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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Nov 11 15:30:25 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 16:30:25 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field
In-Reply-To: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33948@nprdex02.nns.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKGEAOKNAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Mark,

  Sure.  But on would be fine too; it is on topic.

Jim 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 2:27 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


Jim,

Would you be willing to look at the SQL off-list?

Mark



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Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:46 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


Mark,

  Still should have numbered each row in the final output. I just tried it
here and it works fine.

SELECT tblLookupControl.FormName, GetLineCounter([FormName]) AS LineNumber
FROM tblLookupControl
GROUP BY tblLookupControl.FormName;

  I'm not clear on how you ended up with the same result with the two
methods either.  If I do:

SELECT tblLookupControl.FormName, Count([FormName]) AS LineNumber
FROM tblLookupControl
GROUP BY tblLookupControl.FormName;

  I get the number of occurrences within each group.

Jim Dettman


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


John, Jim,

Gentlemen...we have a problem:)

Both of these approaches produce the same results (probably a good thing),
however the results are not what I expected.  My uneducated guess is that I
should have mentioned that this is for an aggregate query.  So what these
methods end up producing is a count of each GroupBy.  Any suggestions?


Mark




-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 11:35 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


Mark,

  I think your saying you want the records numbered?

  I use a custom function:

Global glngGetLineCounter As Long

Function GetLineCounter(varName As Variant) As Long

  glngGetLineCounter = glngGetLineCounter + 1
  GetLineCounter = glngGetLineCounter

End Function

  Which I call from the query

LineNo:GetLineCounter(<somefieldname>)


  If you need this in a form or report though, add a control with a running
sum defaulted to 1.

Jim Dettman

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Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:40 AM
To: [AccessD]
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


Group,

Someone has this at the top of their head or near their
fingertips...hopefully.  In a query, what is the syntax to add a running
recordcount column?  Thanks.


Mark
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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Nov 11 18:32:03 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:32:03 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Filter Property
Message-ID: <200411120032.iAC0WIdQ025524@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hello all
The help wasn't very helpful
I want to apply a filter to a form using criteria from other controls
like
Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling = " & Me.txtStartDate
Me.FilterOn = true
 
 
It doesn't seem to work (IE It returns no results) 
But I have about 20 records where about 6 of those records 
have the same DateOfBilling date as I am typing into txtStartDate field
 
So why don't I see those 6 returned from the 20??
 
Many thanks 
 
Darren
 


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Nov 11 18:48:13 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:48:13 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Filter Property
In-Reply-To: <200411120032.iAC0WIdQ025524@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <419494ED.24745.67A7C4@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 12 Nov 2004 at 11:32, Darren DICK wrote:

> Hello all
> The help wasn't very helpful
> I want to apply a filter to a form using criteria from other controls
> like
> Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling = " & Me.txtStartDate
> Me.FilterOn = true
>  
>  
> It doesn't seem to work (IE It returns no results) 
> But I have about 20 records where about 6 of those records 
> have the same DateOfBilling date as I am typing into txtStartDate field
>  
> So why don't I see those 6 returned from the 20??
>  

Good old Internationalisation and date display formats strikes again?

Try 
Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling = DateValue('" & Me.txtStartDate & "')"


-- 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Nov 11 18:51:26 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:51:26 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Filter Property
In-Reply-To: <419494ED.24745.67A7C4@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <20041112005125.GAXE2430.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

If the delimiters are the problem as Stuart suggests, you should be able to
use the following:

Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling = #" & Me.txtStartDate & "#)"

I know that the Filter property can be a real pia, but I don't remember why
off the top of my head. Don't forget to enable it -- something like

Me.Filter.On = True

???? Really not sure about that last one -- but you need to make sure the
form knows to actually use the filter. 

Susan H. 

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Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 7:48 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003: Filter Property

On 12 Nov 2004 at 11:32, Darren DICK wrote:

> Hello all
> The help wasn't very helpful
> I want to apply a filter to a form using criteria from other controls 
> like Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling = " & Me.txtStartDate Me.FilterOn = 
> true
>  
>  
> It doesn't seem to work (IE It returns no results) But I have about 20 
> records where about 6 of those records have the same DateOfBilling 
> date as I am typing into txtStartDate field
>  
> So why don't I see those 6 returned from the 20??
>  

Good old Internationalisation and date display formats strikes again?

Try
Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling = DateValue('" & Me.txtStartDate & "')"


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Nov 11 18:52:58 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 16:52:58 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Filter Property
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B77@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Darren,

The Form's filter property is a string but if you're trying to apply the
filter to a date field, make sure you include the hash marks around the
date string so the datasource can compare it properly.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Darren DICK [mailto:d.dick at uws.edu.au] 
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 4:32 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Filter Property


Hello all
The help wasn't very helpful
I want to apply a filter to a form using criteria from other controls
like Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling = " & Me.txtStartDate Me.FilterOn = true
 
 
It doesn't seem to work (IE It returns no results) 
But I have about 20 records where about 6 of those records 
have the same DateOfBilling date as I am typing into txtStartDate field
 
So why don't I see those 6 returned from the 20??
 
Many thanks 
 
Darren
 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Nov 11 19:03:25 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:03:25 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Filter Property
In-Reply-To: <20041112005125.GAXE2430.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <419494ED.24745.67A7C4@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <4194987D.4043.759244@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 11 Nov 2004 at 19:51, Susan Harkins wrote:

> If the delimiters are the problem as Stuart suggests, you should be able to
> use the following:
> 
> Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling = #" & Me.txtStartDate & "#)"
> 

Nope, Darren's an Aussie.  

Doing it that way gets the month and day reversed if he is using the 
default short date (today is 12/11/04, not 11/12/04 to us) and doesn't work 
at all if he using something like  "12 Nov 04" :-(

-- 
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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Nov 11 19:41:18 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 12:41:18 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Filter Property
In-Reply-To: <419494ED.24745.67A7C4@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <200411120141.iAC1fXdQ003082@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Stuart et al
Excellent - DateValue('" & Me.txtStartDate & "')" works like a charm
Next q :-))
What would the syntax be or a date range
Eg in SQL you'd write something like...
>= Me.txtStartDate and <= Me.txEndDate

How does this apply to a filter or does it not apply??

Many thanks

Darren

 

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Sent: Friday, 12 November 2004 11:48 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003: Filter Property

On 12 Nov 2004 at 11:32, Darren DICK wrote:

> Hello all
> The help wasn't very helpful
> I want to apply a filter to a form using criteria from other controls 
> like Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling = " & Me.txtStartDate Me.FilterOn = 
> true
>  
>  
> It doesn't seem to work (IE It returns no results) But I have about 20 
> records where about 6 of those records have the same DateOfBilling 
> date as I am typing into txtStartDate field
>  
> So why don't I see those 6 returned from the 20??
>  

Good old Internationalisation and date display formats strikes again?

Try
Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling = DateValue('" & Me.txtStartDate & "')"


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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Nov 11 19:45:14 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 12:45:14 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Filter Property
In-Reply-To: <419494ED.24745.67A7C4@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <200411120145.iAC1jUdQ007739@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Oops worked it out
It's

Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling >= DateValue('" & Me.txtStartDate & "')" _
 & "and DateOfBilling <= DateValue('" & Me.txtEndDate & "')"

Many thanks y'all

See ya

Darren
Stuart --- you da man !!!!!!!!!!!!1


 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Friday, 12 November 2004 11:48 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003: Filter Property

On 12 Nov 2004 at 11:32, Darren DICK wrote:

> Hello all
> The help wasn't very helpful
> I want to apply a filter to a form using criteria from other controls 
> like Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling = " & Me.txtStartDate Me.FilterOn = 
> true
>  
>  
> It doesn't seem to work (IE It returns no results) But I have about 20 
> records where about 6 of those records have the same DateOfBilling 
> date as I am typing into txtStartDate field
>  
> So why don't I see those 6 returned from the 20??
>  

Good old Internationalisation and date display formats strikes again?

Try
Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling = DateValue('" & Me.txtStartDate & "')"


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From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Thu Nov 11 23:34:59 2004
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:04:59 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Filter Property
References: <200411120145.iAC1jUdQ007739@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <019201c4c879$8a5ff900$e81865cb@winxp>

Using Date Variables In A Criteria String
===========================
Certain aspects required to be kept in view
----------------------------------------------------

    Similar topic came up in one of the other discussion groups,  where it was pointed out by John Viescas, that when a date variable (in its raw state) is concatenated within a string, it will get embedded in a format governed by existing regional settings (for short date) on the particular computer.

    This can lead to unexpected results where the computer's system settings are not conforming to U.S. convention (mm-dd-yyyy).

    It was therefore concluded that as a foolproof measure for consistent results, the date variable should first be converted into a non-ambiguous string format (or into U.S style format), before being concatenated with the main statement. 

    An example is given below (TDate is a date type field in table T_Test, while StartDate & FinDate are variables holding date values)-

StrSQL = "DELETE * FROM T_Test"
StrSQL = StrSQL & " WHERE TDate Between  #" & _
                 Format(StartDate, "dd-mmm-yyyy") & "#"
StrSQL = StrSQL & " AND #" & _
                 Format(FinDate, "dd-mmm-yyyy") & "#;"

A.D.Tejpal
--------------

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  From: Darren DICK 
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  Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 07:15
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003: Filter Property


  Oops worked it out
  It's

  Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling >= DateValue('" & Me.txtStartDate & "')" _
   & "and DateOfBilling <= DateValue('" & Me.txtEndDate & "')"

  Many thanks y'all

  See ya

  Darren
  Stuart --- you da man !!!!!!!!!!!!1
   

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  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
  Sent: Friday, 12 November 2004 11:48 AM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003: Filter Property

  On 12 Nov 2004 at 11:32, Darren DICK wrote:

  > Hello all
  > The help wasn't very helpful
  > I want to apply a filter to a form using criteria from other controls 
  > like Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling = " & Me.txtStartDate Me.FilterOn = 
  > true
  >  
  >  
  > It doesn't seem to work (IE It returns no results) But I have about 20 
  > records where about 6 of those records have the same DateOfBilling 
  > date as I am typing into txtStartDate field
  >  
  > So why don't I see those 6 returned from the 20??
  >  
  Good old Internationalisation and date display formats strikes again?

  Try
  Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling = DateValue('" & Me.txtStartDate & "')"

  Stuart



From Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk  Fri Nov 12 02:45:01 2004
From: Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk (Paul Rodgers)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 08:45:01 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access with a MySQL database
Message-ID: <EAF3070ACB1AD81182280002A51EF731192349@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>

All noted, Arthur, thanks very much. Will try from these notes - and looking
forward to your posting on the net. Hope things are ok with you. 
Cheers
paul 

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Sent: 11 November 2004 17:39
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access with a MySQL database




From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Nov 12 04:54:14 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:54:14 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables
In-Reply-To: <000201c4c829$bcfa6f80$d30d6bd5@netboxxp>
References: <000201c4c829$bcfa6f80$d30d6bd5@netboxxp>
Message-ID: <872658342.20041112115414@cactus.dk>

Hi Mark

That's right, though I only do that when absolutely needed.
Look up in the archive for July 2002:

  SQL in-line subquery (solved)

for the

  [<SQL Select>]. AS TableX

syntax.

/gustav


> That is exactly what I ended up doing.  But since I lack the SQL "guru"
> certification ;) I thought I'd put the question out there.  I was
> thinking back to a thread a long while back regarding a method that
> creates a sort of temporary table within one query...or something along
> those lines.  I didn't know if/how that method might apply to my
> situation.

> Mark


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 6:07 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


> Hi Mark and Arthur

> That may work but you'll be in trouble when trying to switch to design
> view. I would create a query for Tbl2 with a field with the expression
> needed to match the Tbl1.Fld1. Then use this query for Tbl1 whenever you
> need to join Tbl1 and Tbl2.

> /gustav


>>>I have two tables I would like to join.  Tbl1.Fld1 contains a 
>>>variable-length string, Tbl2.Fld2 contains the same variable-length 
>>>string concatenated with a variable-length suffix.
>>>
>>>Any suggestions on how to proceed?  Is there an elegant solution?
>>>
>>>Mark

>> At first blush I would try this:
>>
>> SELECT * FROM T1 INNER JOIN T2 ON T1.Field1 = Left(T.2.Field1,
>> LEN(T1.Field1))

>> Arthur



From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Nov 12 05:17:00 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 12:17:00 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Filter Property
In-Reply-To: <200411120032.iAC0WIdQ025524@cooper.uws.edu.au>
References: <200411120032.iAC0WIdQ025524@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <1844024677.20041112121700@cactus.dk>

Hi Darren

The only foolproof way is to force US formatting of date strings:

  Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling = " & _
    Format(Me.txtStartDate, "\# mm\/dd\/yyyy \#")

/gustav


> I want to apply a filter to a form using criteria from other controls
> like
> Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling = " & Me.txtStartDate
> Me.FilterOn = true
 
 
> It doesn't seem to work (IE It returns no results) 
> But I have about 20 records where about 6 of those records 
> have the same DateOfBilling date as I am typing into txtStartDate field
 
> So why don't I see those 6 returned from the 20??



From Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk  Fri Nov 12 05:35:51 2004
From: Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk (Paul Rodgers)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:35:51 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Function No Go
Message-ID: <EAF3070ACB1AD81182280002A51EF731192351@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>

Many thanks, Joe Hecht and Jim Dettman. Exactly the problem - and it was
DAO. Having that hint of DAO cut the corners and made it a very quick
correction. (I had feared it might take an hour or more). Most grateful.
Cheers
paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: 11 November 2004 13:13
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Function No Go


As Joe said, it's references.

 Open a module in design view, click tools/references.  Look for any listed
as MISSING or BROKEN.  If they are, you'll need to figure out why.  If none
are, check any unchecked reference, close the MDB and Access, re-open and
uncheck the reference just checked.  Then try a compile.

  If still no go then a lib needs to be re-registered with regsvr32 (usually
it's DAO).

Jim Dettman



From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Fri Nov 12 07:07:01 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 05:07:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Outlook programming sites/info
Message-ID: <20041112130702.53053.qmail@web61103.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi group,
 
I need to do some outlook programming (couple of forms etc.)
does anybody know some good oulook programming websites?
 
TIA
 
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Fri Nov 12 06:37:57 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 13:37:57 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Outlook programming sites/info
Message-ID: <20041112133754.5D056250798@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Try

http://www.slipstick.com/

http://www.outlookcode.com

http://www.outlook-tips.net/index.html

--
Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



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Subject: [AccessD] OT: Outlook programming sites/info
Date: 12/11/04 13:10

>
> Hi group,
>
> I need to do some outlook programming (couple of forms etc.)
> does anybody know some good oulook programming websites?
>
> TIA
>
> Sander
>
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Fri Nov 12 07:38:29 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 08:38:29 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Outlook programming sites/info
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33950@nprdex02.nns.com>

Sander,

One of the most quoted sites I've seen on this list is probably
www.slipstick.com.

Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: S D [mailto:accessd667 at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 8:07 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Outlook programming sites/info


Hi group,
 
I need to do some outlook programming (couple of forms etc.)
does anybody know some good oulook programming websites?
 
TIA
 
Sander

			
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From James at fcidms.com  Fri Nov 12 07:39:20 2004
From: James at fcidms.com (James Barash)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 08:39:20 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Unable to Open or Design Reports
In-Reply-To: <15734468543.20041111183459@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <0I7200LLQJ9K5M@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

Gustav and Liz:

Thanks for the suggestions. I hadn't thought of that since everything worked
correctly as of last week. I'll pass it on to my client and hope that does
it.

James Barash

 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 12:35 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Unable to Open or Design Reports

Hi James

This sounds as if no default printer or no printer at all is
installed.

/gustav


> I was visiting a client today who was having a problem with our system.
None
> of the reports would print or preview. From the database window, I was
> unable to Preview or Design any of the existing reports and was unable to
> create a new report, either using the Design View or the Report Wizard. I
> created a blank database and also could not create any reports. Trying to
> open or design did not produce any error message, but did not open a
report
> either. Using the Report Wizard, I got through all the prompts and after
> clicking the Finished button, I got the message "Unable to Create Report"
I
> could create all the other types of objects: Tables, Queries, Forms,
Macros
> and Modules. The system was working as of last week and he assured me
there
> had been no changes to the computer since. Our system does work on other
> computer in the same office.
>         The system is a single file running on the local drive. The user
> does have admin rights (create, read, write, update, delete) on the local
> drive. The computer is running Windows XP (SP1) and Office 2003 (SP1). I
> suggested that reloading Office would be the best thing to do but that has
> to be done through their IT department and could take a while. Has anyone
> seen this before and have a solution or any suggestions.

> Thanks,

> James Barash

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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Fri Nov 12 08:04:20 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:04:20 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Outlook programming sites/info
In-Reply-To: <20041112130702.53053.qmail@web61103.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKIECMKNAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>



  Helen's been at that stuff for a while:

 http://www.helenfeddema.com/

Jim Dettman


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 8:07 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Outlook programming sites/info


Hi group,
 
I need to do some outlook programming (couple of forms etc.)
does anybody know some good oulook programming websites?
 
TIA
 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Nov 12 08:43:31 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:43:31 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Filter Property
In-Reply-To: <4194987D.4043.759244@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <20041112144330.KSEL2451.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Well, who knew??????? ;) Is this the spot for Gustav's little international
date breaker????? :) 

Susan H. 

Nope, Darren's an Aussie.  

Doing it that way gets the month and day reversed if he is using the default
short date (today is 12/11/04, not 11/12/04 to us) and doesn't work at all
if he using something like  "12 Nov 04" :-(



From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Fri Nov 12 10:04:48 2004
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:04:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place
Message-ID: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAAEFOCIAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

I am using split screens for the first time (I use my laptop screen plus a
flat panel for more space).

My question is this:  Is there a way to force apps, like Access, Outlook,
etc., to always open on the primary monitor?

It's possible to have Access on the secondary monitor and close it over
there and then open Access and it will appear to be not open.  I want to
avoid this.

Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com





From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Fri Nov 12 10:17:07 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:17:07 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08653F5F1D@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

What type of video card does it use?  My Matrox G400 and my nVidia
FX5200 cards both have desktop manager software that allows me to
specify which screen an app starts in.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Reuben
Cummings
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 10:05 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place


I am using split screens for the first time (I use my laptop screen plus
a
flat panel for more space).

My question is this:  Is there a way to force apps, like Access,
Outlook,
etc., to always open on the primary monitor?

It's possible to have Access on the secondary monitor and close it over
there and then open Access and it will appear to be not open.  I want to
avoid this.

Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com



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From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Fri Nov 12 10:22:43 2004
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 21:52:43 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field
References: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33949@nprdex02.nns.com>
Message-ID: <005201c4c8d3$ed2c3ad0$791865cb@winxp>

Mark,

    Following alternatives could be considered, for getting running count in a query field -

    (a) Sub-query.
    (b) Domain function i.e. DCount().
    (c) User defined function based upon recordset.
    (d) User defined function based upon sequentially incrementing global variable.

    Use of sub-query for running count renders the output non-updateable. If this is considered a constraint, options (b) or (c) could be tried. In all cases, it is necessary that the fields upon which running count is based, are sorted in proper sequence. The last field amongst the group of sorted fields should be the one holding unique values (so as to prevent duplicate values in running count).

    Option (d) needs special care in view of volatile nature of output. In a select query, it results in inconsistent display, as the calculated result keeps on changing if the user navigates over it repeatedly from. As such, its use is preferably restricted only to single pass action queries (e.g. Append or update).

    Two sample SQL's using sub-query approach are given at (A) and (B) below. (A) represents the simplest case where the running count is based upon only one field (named ID) having unique values, while (B) demonstrates a combination of date field (TDate) and the unique value field (ID).

    The samples are based upon table T_Data as the source. When running count is needed on relatively complex query (specially if it is aggregate type involving group by clause), the final query should be used as source (in place of T_Data).

Regards,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------

(A)
=================================
SELECT (Select Count(*) From T_Data As T1 Where T1.ID <= T_Data.ID) AS RunningCount
FROM T_Data
ORDER BY T_Data.ID;
=================================

(B)
=================================
SELECT (Select Count(*) From T_Data As T1 Where T1.TDate < T_Data.TDate Or (T1.TDate = T_Data.TDate And T1.ID <= T_Data.ID)) AS RunningCount
FROM T_Data
ORDER BY T_Data.TDate, T_Data.ID;
=================================

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mitsules, Mark 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 01:59
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


  Yes, for each record returned by the query.
  In the example below, it would be fldItem.

  A simple example:
  fldItem  fldName  fldScore
  1        Tom      90
  2        Dick     95
  3        Harry    93

  Mark

  -----Original Message-----
  From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
  Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:42 PM
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field

  You want just an incrementing number?

  John W. Colby
  www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
  Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:08 PM
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field

  John, Jim,

  Gentlemen...we have a problem:)

  Both of these approaches produce the same results (probably a good thing), however the results are not what I expected.  My uneducated guess is that I should have mentioned that this is for an aggregate query.  So what these methods end up producing is a count of each GroupBy.  Any suggestions?

  Mark


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net] 
  Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 11:35 AM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


  Mark,

    I think your saying you want the records numbered?

    I use a custom function:

  Global glngGetLineCounter As Long

  Function GetLineCounter(varName As Variant) As Long

    glngGetLineCounter = glngGetLineCounter + 1
    GetLineCounter = glngGetLineCounter

  End Function

    Which I call from the query

  LineNo:GetLineCounter(<somefieldname>)

    If you need this in a form or report though, add a control with a running sum defaulted to 1.

  Jim Dettman

  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
  Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:40 AM
  To: [AccessD]
  Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field

  Group,

  Someone has this at the top of their head or near their
  fingertips...hopefully.  In a query, what is the syntax to add a running recordcount column?  Thanks.

  Mark


From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Fri Nov 12 10:42:35 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:42:35 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33954@nprdex02.nns.com>

Reuben,

I understand your concern, however, I will go out on a limb as a "user" and
say that I frown on applications that overtly force or override "my" current
settings...especially if they do not return them to their original state.


Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Reuben Cummings [mailto:reuben at gfconsultants.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 11:05 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place


I am using split screens for the first time (I use my laptop screen plus a
flat panel for more space).

My question is this:  Is there a way to force apps, like Access, Outlook,
etc., to always open on the primary monitor?

It's possible to have Access on the secondary monitor and close it over
there and then open Access and it will appear to be not open.  I want to
avoid this.

Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com



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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Nov 12 10:59:49 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 17:59:49 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Modules and libraries in Office
In-Reply-To: <002f01c4c47f$7f204b10$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
References: <002f01c4c47f$7f204b10$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <3524593082.20041112175949@cactus.dk>

Hi John

Not a direct answer, I know, but these are the recommended programming
roads by MS itself (one line):

http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/default.aspx?pull=/library/en-us/dno2k3ta/html/Office2003OverviewDeveloperTechnologies.asp

Part two is not published yet it seems ...

/gustav


> Date: 2004-11-07 05:08

> In Access we use MDA/Es to store libraries of reusable code.  Is there an
> equivalent for Word / Excel / Outlook etc (the rest of Office)?  Do these
> other platforms have references like we do in Access?  If so, can you
> reference an MDA/E to use code in it?



From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Fri Nov 12 11:46:17 2004
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 12:46:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place
In-Reply-To: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33954@nprdex02.nns.com>
Message-ID: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAOEFPCIAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

This is strictly for my own personal use during development.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 11:43 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place


Reuben,

I understand your concern, however, I will go out on a limb as a "user" and
say that I frown on applications that overtly force or override "my" current
settings...especially if they do not return them to their original state.


Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Reuben Cummings [mailto:reuben at gfconsultants.com]
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 11:05 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place


I am using split screens for the first time (I use my laptop screen plus a
flat panel for more space).

My question is this:  Is there a way to force apps, like Access, Outlook,
etc., to always open on the primary monitor?

It's possible to have Access on the secondary monitor and close it over
there and then open Access and it will appear to be not open.  I want to
avoid this.

Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com



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From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Fri Nov 12 11:46:17 2004
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 12:46:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place
In-Reply-To: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08653F5F1D@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>
Message-ID: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAAEGACIAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

It's an Nvidia card.

I'll check out the manager software.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 11:17 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place


What type of video card does it use?  My Matrox G400 and my nVidia
FX5200 cards both have desktop manager software that allows me to
specify which screen an app starts in.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Reuben
Cummings
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 10:05 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place


I am using split screens for the first time (I use my laptop screen plus
a
flat panel for more space).

My question is this:  Is there a way to force apps, like Access,
Outlook,
etc., to always open on the primary monitor?

It's possible to have Access on the secondary monitor and close it over
there and then open Access and it will appear to be not open.  I want to
avoid this.

Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Fri Nov 12 11:54:16 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 12:54:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33958@nprdex02.nns.com>

Excellent overview A.D.Tejpal!  Many thanks.


Mark




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From: A.D.Tejpal [mailto:adtp at touchtelindia.net] 
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 11:23 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


Mark,

    Following alternatives could be considered, for getting running count in
a query field -

    (a) Sub-query.
    (b) Domain function i.e. DCount().
    (c) User defined function based upon recordset.
    (d) User defined function based upon sequentially incrementing global
variable.

    Use of sub-query for running count renders the output non-updateable. If
this is considered a constraint, options (b) or (c) could be tried. In all
cases, it is necessary that the fields upon which running count is based,
are sorted in proper sequence. The last field amongst the group of sorted
fields should be the one holding unique values (so as to prevent duplicate
values in running count).

    Option (d) needs special care in view of volatile nature of output. In a
select query, it results in inconsistent display, as the calculated result
keeps on changing if the user navigates over it repeatedly from. As such,
its use is preferably restricted only to single pass action queries (e.g.
Append or update).

    Two sample SQL's using sub-query approach are given at (A) and (B)
below. (A) represents the simplest case where the running count is based
upon only one field (named ID) having unique values, while (B) demonstrates
a combination of date field (TDate) and the unique value field (ID).

    The samples are based upon table T_Data as the source. When running
count is needed on relatively complex query (specially if it is aggregate
type involving group by clause), the final query should be used as source
(in place of T_Data).

Regards,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------

(A)
=================================
SELECT (Select Count(*) From T_Data As T1 Where T1.ID <= T_Data.ID) AS
RunningCount
FROM T_Data
ORDER BY T_Data.ID;
=================================

(B)
=================================
SELECT (Select Count(*) From T_Data As T1 Where T1.TDate < T_Data.TDate Or
(T1.TDate = T_Data.TDate And T1.ID <= T_Data.ID)) AS RunningCount
FROM T_Data
ORDER BY T_Data.TDate, T_Data.ID;
=================================

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  Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 01:59
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


  Yes, for each record returned by the query.
  In the example below, it would be fldItem.

  A simple example:
  fldItem  fldName  fldScore
  1        Tom      90
  2        Dick     95
  3        Harry    93

  Mark

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  Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:42 PM
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  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field

  You want just an incrementing number?

  John W. Colby
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  Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:08 PM
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  John, Jim,

  Gentlemen...we have a problem:)

  Both of these approaches produce the same results (probably a good thing),
however the results are not what I expected.  My uneducated guess is that I
should have mentioned that this is for an aggregate query.  So what these
methods end up producing is a count of each GroupBy.  Any suggestions?

  Mark


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net] 
  Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 11:35 AM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field


  Mark,

    I think your saying you want the records numbered?

    I use a custom function:

  Global glngGetLineCounter As Long

  Function GetLineCounter(varName As Variant) As Long

    glngGetLineCounter = glngGetLineCounter + 1
    GetLineCounter = glngGetLineCounter

  End Function

    Which I call from the query

  LineNo:GetLineCounter(<somefieldname>)

    If you need this in a form or report though, add a control with a
running sum defaulted to 1.

  Jim Dettman

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  Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:40 AM
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  Subject: [AccessD] Query - Add Recordcount Field

  Group,

  Someone has this at the top of their head or near their
  fingertips...hopefully.  In a query, what is the syntax to add a running
recordcount column?  Thanks.

  Mark
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From pedro at plex.nl  Fri Nov 12 14:37:59 2004
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 21:37:59 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] precursor zero
Message-ID: <003001c4c8f7$804af590$f2c581d5@pedro>

Hello Group,

 i can make an ID by placing a string and a number together with an update query.
What i get then is 

string1
string2
string11
string100

What i would like is precursor zero's so that all number are the same length:

string0001
string0002
string0011
string0100

How can i do this?

Pedro Janssen


From CMackin at quiznos.com  Fri Nov 12 14:48:37 2004
From: CMackin at quiznos.com (Mackin, Christopher)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 13:48:37 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] precursor zero
Message-ID: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27F12E@snowmass.quiznos.net>

String & Right("0000" & CStr(ID), 4)

Will take care of it.

-Chris Mackin

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Subject: [AccessD] precursor zero


Hello Group,

 i can make an ID by placing a string and a number together with an update query.
What i get then is 

string1
string2
string11
string100

What i would like is precursor zero's so that all number are the same length:

string0001
string0002
string0011
string0100

How can i do this?

Pedro Janssen
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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Fri Nov 12 14:55:53 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:55:53 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] precursor zero
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08653F5F26@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

"string" & Format([ID Field Name],"0000")

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Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 2:38 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] precursor zero


Hello Group,

 i can make an ID by placing a string and a number together with an
update query.
What i get then is 

string1
string2
string11
string100

What i would like is precursor zero's so that all number are the same
length:

string0001
string0002
string0011
string0100

How can i do this?

Pedro Janssen
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sat Nov 13 08:58:37 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 09:58:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Probably
Message-ID: <20041113145836.FAVX2451.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Office XP Alternative User Input Update: KB832668 
The Office XP Alternative User Input Update: KB832668 updates the framework
which is used to support advanced text services in Microsoft Office XP.

Update for Office 2003: Alternative User Input (KB870774) 
The Update for Office 2003: Alternative User Input (KB870774) updates the
framework which is used to support advanced text services in Microsoft
Office 2003.

Can someone tell me what the Alternative User Input is? 

Susan H. 



From DaveSharpe2 at cox.net  Sat Nov 13 15:09:00 2004
From: DaveSharpe2 at cox.net (Dave Sharpe)
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 16:09:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Probably
References: <20041113145836.FAVX2451.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <002c01c4c9c4$ff6ec900$6ea9fe18@bcsrkeext6137>

Susan

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/316127

Contains the following "The Office XP Alternative User Input Update:
January 24, 2002 updates the framework that is used to support advanced
text services in Office XP. Examples of advanced text services include
speech recognition, handwriting recognition, and East Asian keyboard
input services."

I hope that this helps.

Dave


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Subject: [AccessD] OT: Probably


Office XP Alternative User Input Update: KB832668
The Office XP Alternative User Input Update: KB832668 updates the framework
which is used to support advanced text services in Microsoft Office XP.

Update for Office 2003: Alternative User Input (KB870774)
The Update for Office 2003: Alternative User Input (KB870774) updates the
framework which is used to support advanced text services in Microsoft
Office 2003.

Can someone tell me what the Alternative User Input is?

Susan H.

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Nov 13 17:20:16 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 09:20:16 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Probably
In-Reply-To: <002c01c4c9c4$ff6ec900$6ea9fe18@bcsrkeext6137>
Message-ID: <41972350.30452.A63CB78@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 13 Nov 2004 at 16:09, Dave Sharpe wrote:

> 
> Contains the following "The Office XP Alternative User Input Update:
> January 24, 2002 updates the framework that is used to support advanced
> text services in Office XP. Examples of advanced text services include
> speech recognition, handwriting recognition, and East Asian keyboard
> input services."
> 

Even further OT:

Another interesting "Alternative User Input" to play with is also not 
limited to Office XP.

Check out Dasher at  http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher

-- 
Stuart




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sat Nov 13 18:04:45 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 19:04:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Probably
In-Reply-To: <41972350.30452.A63CB78@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <20041114000445.XYQW8988.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Had no idea... ;) 

Thanks!
Susan H. 

Another interesting "Alternative User Input" to play with is also not
limited to Office XP.

Check out Dasher at  http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher



From lists at theopg.com  Thu Nov 11 14:51:22 2004
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:51:22 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables
In-Reply-To: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F3394A@nprdex02.nns.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c4c830$3528aca0$d30d6bd5@netboxxp>

I never performance tested it and only used this method in migrations
etc. I'd be real interested to know what the limitations are...?

Mark (the other one)

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Mark
Sent: 11 November 2004 20:45
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


Thanks for the suggestion.  In this instance, since I'm dealing with <
10K records I wonder if efficiency would be noteworthy?


Mark




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Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 3:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
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Didn't read the whole thread so sorry if this has been done...

You don't need a join, you can just use criteria if you like (not
necessarilly very eficient though?)

E.g. "SELECT a.*, b.* FROM a, b WHERE a.col1=mid(b.col2,3)"

Hth

Mark

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Mark
Sent: 11 November 2004 13:35
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


Thank you all for the comments.

That is exactly what I ended up doing.  But since I lack the SQL "guru"
certification ;) I thought I'd put the question out there.  I was
thinking back to a thread a long while back regarding a method that
creates a sort of temporary table within one query...or something along
those lines.  I didn't know if/how that method might apply to my
situation.

Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 6:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


Hi Mark and Arthur

That may work but you'll be in trouble when trying to switch to design
view. I would create a query for Tbl2 with a field with the expression
needed to match the Tbl1.Fld1. Then use this query for Tbl1 whenever you
need to join Tbl1 and Tbl2.

/gustav


>>I have two tables I would like to join.  Tbl1.Fld1 contains a
>>variable-length string, Tbl2.Fld2 contains the same variable-length 
>>string concatenated with a variable-length suffix.
>>
>>Any suggestions on how to proceed?  Is there an elegant solution?
>>
>>Mark

> At first blush I would try this:
>
> SELECT * FROM T1 INNER JOIN T2 ON T1.Field1 = Left(T.2.Field1,
> LEN(T1.Field1))

> Arthur

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Nov 14 07:04:50 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 08:04:50 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables
In-Reply-To: <000a01c4c830$3528aca0$d30d6bd5@netboxxp>
Message-ID: <000801c4ca4a$86aecd90$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

It is my understanding that a join breaks down to (is interpreted as)
exactly that code anyway.

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Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 3:51 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


I never performance tested it and only used this method in migrations etc.
I'd be real interested to know what the limitations are...?

Mark (the other one)

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Sent: 11 November 2004 20:45
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


Thanks for the suggestion.  In this instance, since I'm dealing with < 10K
records I wonder if efficiency would be noteworthy?


Mark




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Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 3:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


Didn't read the whole thread so sorry if this has been done...

You don't need a join, you can just use criteria if you like (not
necessarilly very eficient though?)

E.g. "SELECT a.*, b.* FROM a, b WHERE a.col1=mid(b.col2,3)"

Hth

Mark

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
Sent: 11 November 2004 13:35
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


Thank you all for the comments.

That is exactly what I ended up doing.  But since I lack the SQL "guru"
certification ;) I thought I'd put the question out there.  I was thinking
back to a thread a long while back regarding a method that creates a sort of
temporary table within one query...or something along those lines.  I didn't
know if/how that method might apply to my situation.

Mark


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From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 6:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


Hi Mark and Arthur

That may work but you'll be in trouble when trying to switch to design view.
I would create a query for Tbl2 with a field with the expression needed to
match the Tbl1.Fld1. Then use this query for Tbl1 whenever you need to join
Tbl1 and Tbl2.

/gustav


>>I have two tables I would like to join.  Tbl1.Fld1 contains a 
>>variable-length string, Tbl2.Fld2 contains the same variable-length 
>>string concatenated with a variable-length suffix.
>>
>>Any suggestions on how to proceed?  Is there an elegant solution?
>>
>>Mark

> At first blush I would try this:
>
> SELECT * FROM T1 INNER JOIN T2 ON T1.Field1 = Left(T.2.Field1,
> LEN(T1.Field1))

> Arthur

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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Sun Nov 14 19:35:56 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 12:35:56 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place
In-Reply-To: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAAEGACIAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>
Message-ID: <200411150136.iAF1a1dQ025733@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Reuben
I use an NVIDIA card also
What you are requesting is Driver dependant - though the NVIDIA Driver
manager does
Allow you to select what screen you want an app to open on.

Be wary though....
I had it happen once that I did some development work on a 'not centred'
form 
Whilst I was in an NVIDIA 'wide screen' kinda setup. 
When the form was opened at the customers place the form open up 'off the
screen'.
And of course it was set to modal so I had to CTRL ALT DEL 

Did some very quick editing (Using the scroll bars to go 'off screen') drag
the form back, 
edit something (I moved a label) and save the changes in the middle of the
customers only screen

So...bear this in mind when opening, designing and moving 'not centred'
popup type forms between screens.

What I do now is....all my form design work on the left screen (I have that
screen as monitor 1) and 
all my code work (monitor 2) on the right. So it shouldn't matter when I am
at my customers with 1 screen

See ya -  hope this helps

DD



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Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place

It's an Nvidia card.

I'll check out the manager software.

Reuben Cummings
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place


What type of video card does it use?  My Matrox G400 and my nVidia FX5200
cards both have desktop manager software that allows me to specify which
screen an app starts in.

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I am using split screens for the first time (I use my laptop screen plus a
flat panel for more space).

My question is this:  Is there a way to force apps, like Access, Outlook,
etc., to always open on the primary monitor?

It's possible to have Access on the secondary monitor and close it over
there and then open Access and it will appear to be not open.  I want to
avoid this.

Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Sun Nov 14 23:24:13 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 16:24:13 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Adding All to a List
Message-ID: <200411150524.iAF5OJdQ018582@cooper.uws.edu.au>

I know this has been done to death
I have done it many time using my code library
I have lost my libraries when my hard drive was hosed
and Drew's search on the archives timed me out
So...
If I want the text <ALL> to appear at the top of a legitimate list but it it
not
part of the recordset, how do I do it?
 
EG from a combo....
<ALL>
Michael
Stephen
Peter 
Susan
Zafir
 
etc
 
Many thanks
 
Darren
 


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Nov 14 23:36:19 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 15:36:19 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Adding All to a List
In-Reply-To: <200411150524.iAF5OJdQ018582@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <4198CCF3.23099.10E26E7B@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 15 Nov 2004 at 16:24, Darren DICK wrote:

> So...
> If I want the text <ALL> to appear at the top of a legitimate list but it it
> not
> part of the recordset, how do I do it?
>  

Use a Union query:

Select "<ALL>"  as FirstName 
from tblNames
UNION
Select FirstName from tblNames
-- 
Stuart




From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Nov 14 23:55:23 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 21:55:23 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Windows Digital Right Management Software
Message-ID: <01e701c4cad7$b31a4840$6501a8c0@HAL9002>

Does anybody know  anything about Microsoft "Digital Right Management Software" (DRM).  The Chinese distributor is suggesting it for copy protection in China.  Is it good?  Effective?  What's the downside?  Is it hard to use and manage?  What problems does it create for the user?

Any info will be appreciated.

Regards,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com



From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Nov 15 00:31:31 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 17:31:31 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Adding All to a List
In-Reply-To: <4198CCF3.23099.10E26E7B@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <200411150631.iAF6VbdR008361@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Stuart
As usual - You Da Man!!!!!!!!!

Many thanks
Darren
 

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On 15 Nov 2004 at 16:24, Darren DICK wrote:

> So...
> If I want the text <ALL> to appear at the top of a legitimate list but 
> it it not part of the recordset, how do I do it?
>  

Use a Union query:

Select "<ALL>"  as FirstName 
from tblNames
UNION
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From lists at theopg.com  Mon Nov 15 03:37:54 2004
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 09:37:54 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables
In-Reply-To: <000801c4ca4a$86aecd90$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <000001c4caf6$c9626190$0e0b6bd5@netboxxp>

Thanks John

Mark

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Sent: 14 November 2004 13:05
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It is my understanding that a join breaks down to (is interpreted as)
exactly that code anyway.

John W. Colby
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I never performance tested it and only used this method in migrations
etc. I'd be real interested to know what the limitations are...?

Mark (the other one)

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Mark
Sent: 11 November 2004 20:45
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


Thanks for the suggestion.  In this instance, since I'm dealing with <
10K records I wonder if efficiency would be noteworthy?


Mark




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Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 3:05 PM
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Didn't read the whole thread so sorry if this has been done...

You don't need a join, you can just use criteria if you like (not
necessarilly very eficient though?)

E.g. "SELECT a.*, b.* FROM a, b WHERE a.col1=mid(b.col2,3)"

Hth

Mark

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Mark
Sent: 11 November 2004 13:35
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


Thank you all for the comments.

That is exactly what I ended up doing.  But since I lack the SQL "guru"
certification ;) I thought I'd put the question out there.  I was
thinking back to a thread a long while back regarding a method that
creates a sort of temporary table within one query...or something along
those lines.  I didn't know if/how that method might apply to my
situation.

Mark


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From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 6:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Joining Two Tables


Hi Mark and Arthur

That may work but you'll be in trouble when trying to switch to design
view. I would create a query for Tbl2 with a field with the expression
needed to match the Tbl1.Fld1. Then use this query for Tbl1 whenever you
need to join Tbl1 and Tbl2.

/gustav


>>I have two tables I would like to join.  Tbl1.Fld1 contains a
>>variable-length string, Tbl2.Fld2 contains the same variable-length 
>>string concatenated with a variable-length suffix.
>>
>>Any suggestions on how to proceed?  Is there an elegant solution?
>>
>>Mark

> At first blush I would try this:
>
> SELECT * FROM T1 INNER JOIN T2 ON T1.Field1 = Left(T.2.Field1,
> LEN(T1.Field1))

> Arthur

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From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Mon Nov 15 08:06:52 2004
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 09:06:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place
In-Reply-To: <200411150136.iAF1a1dQ025733@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAOEGNCIAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

Thanks, Darren.

That does help.

I think I'll just deal with moving forms over when needed.  That two seconds
won't hurt me much.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
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email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren DICK
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 8:36 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place


Hi Reuben
I use an NVIDIA card also
What you are requesting is Driver dependant - though the NVIDIA Driver
manager does
Allow you to select what screen you want an app to open on.

Be wary though....
I had it happen once that I did some development work on a 'not centred'
form
Whilst I was in an NVIDIA 'wide screen' kinda setup.
When the form was opened at the customers place the form open up 'off the
screen'.
And of course it was set to modal so I had to CTRL ALT DEL

Did some very quick editing (Using the scroll bars to go 'off screen') drag
the form back,
edit something (I moved a label) and save the changes in the middle of the
customers only screen

So...bear this in mind when opening, designing and moving 'not centred'
popup type forms between screens.

What I do now is....all my form design work on the left screen (I have that
screen as monitor 1) and
all my code work (monitor 2) on the right. So it shouldn't matter when I am
at my customers with 1 screen

See ya -  hope this helps

DD



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Sent: Saturday, 13 November 2004 4:46 AM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place

It's an Nvidia card.

I'll check out the manager software.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 11:17 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place


What type of video card does it use?  My Matrox G400 and my nVidia FX5200
cards both have desktop manager software that allows me to specify which
screen an app starts in.

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Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 10:05 AM
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Subject: [AccessD] OT - Force apps to open in same place


I am using split screens for the first time (I use my laptop screen plus a
flat panel for more space).

My question is this:  Is there a way to force apps, like Access, Outlook,
etc., to always open on the primary monitor?

It's possible to have Access on the secondary monitor and close it over
there and then open Access and it will appear to be not open.  I want to
avoid this.

Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Mon Nov 15 10:13:37 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 10:13:37 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Re: A2003: Filter Property
In-Reply-To: <200411121341.iACDfCL18404@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041115101159.01423e30@pop3.highstream.net>

But,

Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling = CDate(" & Me.txtStartDate & ")"

would, make that should, work with any of them.

You might also want to add me.refresh on the end of the sub.

Robert

At 07:41 AM 11/12/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:03:25 +1000
>From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003: Filter Property
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem    solving
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <4194987D.4043.759244 at lexacorp.com.pg>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
>On 11 Nov 2004 at 19:51, Susan Harkins wrote:
>
> > If the delimiters are the problem as Stuart suggests, you should be able to
> > use the following:
> >
> > Me.Filter = "DateOfBilling = #" & Me.txtStartDate & "#)"
> >
>
>Nope, Darren's an Aussie.
>
>Doing it that way gets the month and day reversed if he is using the
>default short date (today is 12/11/04, not 11/12/04 to us) and doesn't work
>at all if he using something like  "12 Nov 04" :-(
>
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From rfv at entelix.com  Mon Nov 15 14:19:14 2004
From: rfv at entelix.com (rfv at entelix.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 14:19:14 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] How many Access installed worldwide?
Message-ID: <200411152022.iAFKMKL14695@databaseadvisors.com>

Hi,
Can anyobody tell me how many MS Access packages are installed worldwide?
 
Thnaks
 
 
Rudolf F. Vanek
 


From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Mon Nov 15 14:44:05 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 21:44:05 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] How many Access installed worldwide?
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B551B@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

I got a couple ones over here :-) 

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Subject: [AccessD] How many Access installed worldwide?

Hi,
Can anyobody tell me how many MS Access packages are installed
worldwide?
 
Thnaks
 
 
Rudolf F. Vanek
 
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Mon Nov 15 15:01:44 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 21:01:44 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] How many Access installed worldwide?
In-Reply-To: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B551B@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <002201c4cb56$50741f70$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

And I've 3 (boy this could take a while).

Sorry Rudolf, we're being facetious. But the question's a bit like how many
drops of water in the Pacific. Maybe MS know how many copies they have
registered but that's surely the tip of the iceberg.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

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> 
> I got a couple ones over here :-) 
> 
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> Hi,
> Can anyobody tell me how many MS Access packages are 
> installed worldwide?
>  
> Thnaks
>  
>  
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From mnptl at sonmedia.com  Mon Nov 15 18:43:47 2004
From: mnptl at sonmedia.com (mnptl at sonmedia.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 19:43:47 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [AccessD] Disabling the scrolling mouse in Access 97
Message-ID: <58067.10.235.219.133.1100565827.webmail@10.235.219.133>

My client is using Access 97, and we need to disable the scrolling
behaviour of the mouse wheel.  Does anyone know how to do this in Access
'97?

Mark






From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Nov 15 19:03:48 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 12:03:48 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Design Question
Message-ID: <200411160103.iAG13udQ009199@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Team
I Have a dB that holds data for both Clients (tblClients) and Franchises
(tblFranchises)
 
The tblClients holds all the usual client detail stuff - ClientID is the PK
(Autonumber)
tblFranchises holds various bits of information about any particular
franchise - FranchiseID is the PK (Autonumber)
 
So essentially 2 entity groups within the dB.
 
BUT my client does work for both the Franchises and individual Customers. 
In order to present both of them in a TimeBilling Screen I use a union query
to 'merge' both 
groups into a single combo
 
The problem is storing the PK correctly. eg say I select the 4th Franchise
in the list - it has a PK of 4
Well an entry on the client side will also have a PK of 4.
 
I am tossing up with various ways to deal with this including merging both
tables into one
table and just setting a flag to differentiate Clients from Franchises.
Of course I can have separate fields in the tblTimeBilling for FranchiseID
and for ClientID.
 
Just not sure what would be a sleek solution :-)) 
 
I am sure this is a common type of thing - I just wanted to know some
methods on 
how you guys deal with this sort of design question.
 
Many thanks
 
Darren
 


From Mark.Porter at acsalaska.com  Mon Nov 15 19:18:03 2004
From: Mark.Porter at acsalaska.com (Porter, Mark)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 16:18:03 -0900
Subject: [AccessD] How many Access installed worldwide?
Message-ID: <635B80FE6C7D5A409586A6A110D97D17217E62@ACSANCHOR.corp.acsalaska.com>

What version?

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Subject: [AccessD] How many Access installed worldwide?

Hi,
Can anyobody tell me how many MS Access packages are installed
worldwide?
 
Thnaks
 
 
Rudolf F. Vanek
 
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Nov 15 19:23:59 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 17:23:59 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Disabling the scrolling mouse in Access 97
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My client is using Access 97, and we need to disable the scrolling
behaviour of the mouse wheel.  Does anyone know how to do this in Access
'97?

Mark




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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Nov 15 19:24:45 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 12:24:45 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Disabling the scrolling mouse in Access 97
In-Reply-To: <58067.10.235.219.133.1100565827.webmail@10.235.219.133>
Message-ID: <200411160124.iAG1OrdQ005494@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Mark
Have a look at Stephen Lebans web site

http://www.lebans.com/mousewheelonoff.htm

Hope this helps

See ya

Darren
 

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Subject: [AccessD] Disabling the scrolling mouse in Access 97

My client is using Access 97, and we need to disable the scrolling behaviour
of the mouse wheel.  Does anyone know how to do this in Access '97?

Mark




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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Nov 15 19:24:47 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:24:47 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Design Question
In-Reply-To: <200411160103.iAG13udQ009199@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <4199E37E.31769.1522713E@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 16 Nov 2004 at 12:03, Darren DICK wrote:

>  
> BUT my client does work for both the Franchises and individual Customers. 
> In order to present both of them in a TimeBilling Screen I use a union query
> to 'merge' both 
> groups into a single combo
>  
> The problem is storing the PK correctly. eg say I select the 4th Franchise
> in the list - it has a PK of 4
> Well an entry on the client side will also have a PK of 4.
>  
> I am tossing up with various ways to deal with this including merging both
> tables into one
> table and just setting a flag to differentiate Clients from Franchises.
> Of course I can have separate fields in the tblTimeBilling for FranchiseID
> and for ClientID.
>  

I'd probably go for a tblEntity with 3 fields:

ID
EntityType (Franchise or Client)
EntityID

You can then base your ComboBox on a query something like:

Select ID , IIF(EntityType = "F", FranchiseName,ClientName) as EntityName
>From tblEntities Left  Join tblFranchises ....... Left Join TblClients
 ......




-- 
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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Nov 15 20:24:55 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 13:24:55 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Design Question
In-Reply-To: <4199E37E.31769.1522713E@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <200411160225.iAG2P4dQ020224@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Stuart
Thanks for the reply
In your suggestion I would create a 3rd table called tblEntity - yes?
How does it get populated?

How would I store entries to the tblTimeBilling table.
IE in the union combo how would I store that PK 4 in this case is a
franchise
Not a client?

Many thanks

Darren


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Tuesday, 16 November 2004 12:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003: Design Question

On 16 Nov 2004 at 12:03, Darren DICK wrote:

>  
> BUT my client does work for both the Franchises and individual Customers. 
> In order to present both of them in a TimeBilling Screen I use a union 
> query to 'merge' both groups into a single combo
>  
> The problem is storing the PK correctly. eg say I select the 4th 
> Franchise in the list - it has a PK of 4 Well an entry on the client 
> side will also have a PK of 4.
>  
> I am tossing up with various ways to deal with this including merging 
> both tables into one table and just setting a flag to differentiate 
> Clients from Franchises.
> Of course I can have separate fields in the tblTimeBilling for 
> FranchiseID and for ClientID.
>  

I'd probably go for a tblEntity with 3 fields:

ID
EntityType (Franchise or Client)
EntityID

You can then base your ComboBox on a query something like:

Select ID , IIF(EntityType = "F", FranchiseName,ClientName) as EntityName
>From tblEntities Left  Join tblFranchises ....... Left Join TblClients
 ......




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From artful at rogers.com  Mon Nov 15 23:49:34 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 00:49:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Design Question
In-Reply-To: <200411160225.iAG2P4dQ020224@cooper.uws.edu.au>
References: <200411160225.iAG2P4dQ020224@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <419994EE.4020904@rogers.com>

Darren DICK wrote:

>Hi Stuart
>Thanks for the reply
>In your suggestion I would create a 3rd table called tblEntity - yes?
>How does it get populated?
>
>How would I store entries to the tblTimeBilling table.
>IE in the union combo how would I store that PK 4 in this case is a
>franchise
>Not a client?
>
>Many thanks
>
>Darren
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
>Sent: Tuesday, 16 November 2004 12:25 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003: Design Question
>
>On 16 Nov 2004 at 12:03, Darren DICK wrote:
>
>  
>
>> 
>>BUT my client does work for both the Franchises and individual Customers. 
>>In order to present both of them in a TimeBilling Screen I use a union 
>>query to 'merge' both groups into a single combo
>> 
>>The problem is storing the PK correctly. eg say I select the 4th 
>>Franchise in the list - it has a PK of 4 Well an entry on the client 
>>side will also have a PK of 4.
>> 
>>I am tossing up with various ways to deal with this including merging 
>>both tables into one table and just setting a flag to differentiate 
>>Clients from Franchises.
>>Of course I can have separate fields in the tblTimeBilling for 
>>FranchiseID and for ClientID.
>> 
>>    
>>
>
>I'd probably go for a tblEntity with 3 fields:
>
>ID
>EntityType (Franchise or Client)
>EntityID
>
>You can then base your ComboBox on a query something like:
>
>Select ID , IIF(EntityType = "F", FranchiseName,ClientName) as EntityName
>>From tblEntities Left  Join tblFranchises ....... Left Join TblClients
> ......
>
>
>
>
>--
>Stuart
>
>
>  
>
Is there a profitable reason to store these entities in different 
tables? There may well be, but in your problem description it is not 
apparent. If my hunch is correct, then you can put both Franchises and 
Customers in the same table, adding a flag to indicate which. There is 
the possibility however that an entity is both a Customer and a 
Franchise, in which case a boolean won't do, so replace it with a numeric.

Up side: much simpler combo selectors.
Down side: selecting only one or the other type demands hitting the 
whole table (unless the BE is SQL).

HTH,
Arthur


From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk  Tue Nov 16 05:25:14 2004
From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:25:14 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] cross-posted - sql dba services
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318805CED7A8@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Hi all

A couple of years ago I was recruiting for someone with SQL Server DBA
skills, and someone from accessd put his company forward to provide those
skills on a consultancy basis if I had trouble recruiting.

At that time I found someone who was very good, but as good people do, he
has now moved onwards & upwards to greater things. We are struggling to
replace him; is anyone on the list currently providing SQL DBA consultancy
in the North West of England? We have some potential projects coming up
which are beyond our in-house skill set, and it would be nice to know if
there is an alternative to hiring someone permanent.

Many thanks

Roz
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From joeget at vgernet.net  Tue Nov 16 05:47:18 2004
From: joeget at vgernet.net (John Eget)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 06:47:18 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] developer CD's for 2003
Message-ID: <000f01c4cbd2$0a192fd0$8ec2f63f@Desktop>

I want to deploy an access 2003 database and the customer is willing to purchase the development software.  I have the Office Development XP 7 CD set, but cannot find a similar product for Access 2003. Does anyone know the new name?

Thanks

John Eget

From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Tue Nov 16 06:13:38 2004
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 17:43:38 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Alternating background color in continuous forms?
References: <157240-220041131033556327@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <008801c4cbd5$ebb05150$e41865cb@winxp>

Christopher,

    You can see my sample db named HighLightDatasheetRows at Rogers Access Library (other developers section). Link - 
http://www.rogersaccesslibrary.com

    This db demonstrates two styles of highlighting - (i) Current Row and (ii) Alternate Rows. Some interesting features are -

    (a) Anchor Row - In both alternatives, user can pinpoint any row as an anchor row (if desired), by double clicking on it. The anchor row gets highlighted in a special color and continues in this state, till some other row is pinpointed as the new anchor row. If any existing anchor row is to be put back to normal (without pinpointing a new one), simply double click it again.
    
    (b) - In case of alternate row highlighting, the form, on opening, has color on odd rows. For replacing it with color on even rows, simply double click on any even numbered row. For reverting back to color on odd numbered rows, double click on any odd numbered row.

    Note - The technique used is completely non-obtrusive. It does not need any special field (e.g. Yes/No or counter etc) to be added to the source table. No updating or editing of any bound control is involved. No label or unbound text box is used. Only requirement is that the source table should have a field holding unique values.

    You might like to adapt the underlying approach suitably for your specific needs. (The arrangement demonstrated for datasheets is applicable to continuous forms as well). 

Regards,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------

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  From: Christopher Hawkins 
  To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 09:05
  Subject: [AccessD] Alternating background color in continuous forms?


  Greetings, all!

  I want to do something kind of fun.  I am trying to figure out how to do alternating background colors in a continuous form.  I was looking at conditional formatting in Access 2002, but am not sure how to work out an expression that will do the trick.

  I am also looking a doing it programmatically, but I think I'd have to do some heavy subclassing, which isn't worth the work just for eye candy.

  Surely someone must have done this before.  Can anyone either offer sugestons on how to figure it out, or post actual code?  I'll be sure to give proper credit when it's time to submit the results to the UI Hall of Fame.  ;)

  -Christopher-
  Respectfully,

  Christopher Hawkins
  Software Developer
  (559) 687-7591
  http://www.christopherhawkins.com


From jmoss111 at bellsouth.net  Tue Nov 16 07:22:19 2004
From: jmoss111 at bellsouth.net (James Moss)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 07:22:19 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] developer CD's for 2003
In-Reply-To: <000f01c4cbd2$0a192fd0$8ec2f63f@Desktop>
Message-ID: <20041116132203.CBQZ19872.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@jmoss3>

 John,

You will be looking for Microsoft Visual Studio Tools for Office 2003. I
just purchased the upgrade at Amazon for $179.99. You don't have to have
visual studio to use it.

Jim

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Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 5:47 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] developer CD's for 2003

I want to deploy an access 2003 database and the customer is willing to
purchase the development software.  I have the Office Development XP 7 CD
set, but cannot find a similar product for Access 2003. Does anyone know the
new name?

Thanks

John Eget
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Tue Nov 16 08:39:20 2004
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:39:20 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Design Question
Message-ID: <BAY101-F25pU6q5ijb10000c98d@hotmail.com>

Darren,

I've done something similar in the past...not sure if this will 
help...but...if you are using a union, your union knows where it is getting 
the data.  Why not create a field(Entity) in the union that differentiates 
the data.  Here is an example.

SELECT tblClient.PK, "Client" AS Entity, tblClient.Data, tblClient.MoreData
FROM tblClient
ORDER BY tblClient.PK, "Client"
WITH OWNERACCESS OPTION;

UNION SELECT tblFranchise.PK,"Franchise" AS Entity, tblFranchise.Data, 
tblFranchise.MoreData
FROM tblFranchise
WITH OWNERACCESS OPTION;

Hope this helps.

Mark A. Matte

>From: "Darren DICK" <d.dick at uws.edu.au>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003: Design Question
>Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 13:24:55 +1100
>
>Hi Stuart
>Thanks for the reply
>In your suggestion I would create a 3rd table called tblEntity - yes?
>How does it get populated?
>
>How would I store entries to the tblTimeBilling table.
>IE in the union combo how would I store that PK 4 in this case is a
>franchise
>Not a client?
>
>Many thanks
>
>Darren
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
>Sent: Tuesday, 16 November 2004 12:25 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003: Design Question
>
>On 16 Nov 2004 at 12:03, Darren DICK wrote:
>
> >
> > BUT my client does work for both the Franchises and individual 
>Customers.
> > In order to present both of them in a TimeBilling Screen I use a union
> > query to 'merge' both groups into a single combo
> >
> > The problem is storing the PK correctly. eg say I select the 4th
> > Franchise in the list - it has a PK of 4 Well an entry on the client
> > side will also have a PK of 4.
> >
> > I am tossing up with various ways to deal with this including merging
> > both tables into one table and just setting a flag to differentiate
> > Clients from Franchises.
> > Of course I can have separate fields in the tblTimeBilling for
> > FranchiseID and for ClientID.
> >
>
>I'd probably go for a tblEntity with 3 fields:
>
>ID
>EntityType (Franchise or Client)
>EntityID
>
>You can then base your ComboBox on a query something like:
>
>Select ID , IIF(EntityType = "F", FranchiseName,ClientName) as EntityName
> >From tblEntities Left  Join tblFranchises ....... Left Join TblClients
>  ......
>
>
>
>
>--
>Stuart
>
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From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Nov 16 08:59:14 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:59:14 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF98C@DISABILITYINS01>

I learned a long time ago that you could retrieve a value from a single
record recordset using syntax like:

    strInvAlt = db.OpenRecordset(strSQL)!TopExpense

where you don't dim a recordset, you just opened the recordset using
db.openrecordset() and then referenced a field of the recordset with the
!SomeField syntax.

My question is, the recordset itself is never assigned to a dimmed recordset
object.  Furthermore there is no db.CloseRecordset() syntax.  Does the
recordset just stay open until the database object itself is closed or is
used to open a different recordset?

I have a situation where I would dim a database object in the form header
and set that database object in OnOpen (to save the time it takes to Set
DB), then use this syntax to retrieve a value in OnCurrent.  I don't want
the recordset hanging out there though.  In thinking this through it seems
that if the db is not dimmed / set each time in the OnCurrent then I should
NOT use this syntax, but rather dim / set a recordset object as well in the
form header / OnOpen and then set the recordset object in the OnCurrent,
grab the field value and explicitly close the recordset (but NOT set the
recordset object = nothing)

Did that make any sense?  Thoughts on the subject?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy



From Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us  Tue Nov 16 09:28:49 2004
From: Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us (O'Connor, Patricia (OTDA))
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 10:28:49 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] ODBC against Oracle partitioned db
Message-ID: <B94C79B465542042AB0748EAF37F9AC0A427B1@EXCNYSM0A1AB.nysemail.nyenet>

Hi all

When I use the Oracle ODBC driver against an ORACLE un-partitioned table
from Access (either passthru or gui), I have not problem. Data comes
back can scroll through 1-30+K records no problem.  

When I use same driver against an Oracle partitioned table from access,
I get temporary freeze ups when scrolling through records even scrolling
from column 1 to say col 10 on screen. It doesn't matter how many
records in set - scroll down 3-6 records - stop. Sometimes the stall can
be 2-5 minutes. 

Doesn't matter if it is the only thing running on computer. I do not
have this problem with an unpartioned set.  I waste a good amount of
time waiting for access to let me back in. 

Has anyone run into this and is there a workaround or setting I need to
change in the driver configuration.  My machine is Win2k, Access2k,
Oracle10

Thanks in advance
Patti

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 16 09:55:54 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 07:55:54 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?
In-Reply-To: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF98C@DISABILITYINS01>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLICEDFCIAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi John:

There is a default recordset created when a form is opened and can be used
in all sorts of ways. When a bound form is opened the recordset is
pre-filled. You can access and use it like:

Dim rs as Object

Set rs = Me.Recordset.Clone
rs.FindFirst "[ContractNumber] = '" & Me![cmbFindContractNumber] & "'"
If Not rs.EOF Then Me.Bookmark = rs.Bookmark

When the form is closed both of the recordsets are automatically closed as a
clone can not exist without it's 'original'.

Your code is just another way of accessing it.

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 6:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?


I learned a long time ago that you could retrieve a value from a single
record recordset using syntax like:

    strInvAlt = db.OpenRecordset(strSQL)!TopExpense

where you don't dim a recordset, you just opened the recordset using
db.openrecordset() and then referenced a field of the recordset with the
!SomeField syntax.

My question is, the recordset itself is never assigned to a dimmed recordset
object.  Furthermore there is no db.CloseRecordset() syntax.  Does the
recordset just stay open until the database object itself is closed or is
used to open a different recordset?

I have a situation where I would dim a database object in the form header
and set that database object in OnOpen (to save the time it takes to Set
DB), then use this syntax to retrieve a value in OnCurrent.  I don't want
the recordset hanging out there though.  In thinking this through it seems
that if the db is not dimmed / set each time in the OnCurrent then I should
NOT use this syntax, but rather dim / set a recordset object as well in the
form header / OnOpen and then set the recordset object in the OnCurrent,
grab the field value and explicitly close the recordset (but NOT set the
recordset object = nothing)

Did that make any sense?  Thoughts on the subject?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy

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From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Nov 16 10:33:17 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:33:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF98D@DISABILITYINS01>

Actually I am accessing related data in another table entirely (child).  I
know about the recordsetclone.  

What I am doing is...

DIS has people / companies invoice them where the invoice does not have an
invoice number.  If there is an invoice number, we put it in the memo field
of the generated check (out in Quickbooks).  If there is no invoice number
provided, we create one with a DISXXX where XXX is just an incrementing
number.  

The issue is that the idiots that don't provide an invoice number call us up
complaining that they don't know what the check is for.  So.... 

The invoice is for a set of related expenses (for a given claim).  Since the
expense is child to the Invoice (a line item of the Invoice), I want to go
get the first expense (line item) and copy the description into a field up
in the invoice.  That description will now be printed on the check memo
field so that they at least can go looking for the expense description (they
provide us) and try to cut down on the calls from idiots.

It is incredible to me that a company mails an invoice without an invoice
number.  HELLO!!!  ANYONE HOME OUT THERE?  And then they complain when they
can't figure out what the payment is for.

The stupids are ganging up on us!

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 10:56 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?


Hi John:

There is a default recordset created when a form is opened and can be used
in all sorts of ways. When a bound form is opened the recordset is
pre-filled. You can access and use it like:

Dim rs as Object

Set rs = Me.Recordset.Clone
rs.FindFirst "[ContractNumber] = '" & Me![cmbFindContractNumber] & "'"
If Not rs.EOF Then Me.Bookmark = rs.Bookmark

When the form is closed both of the recordsets are automatically closed as a
clone can not exist without it's 'original'.

Your code is just another way of accessing it.

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 6:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?


I learned a long time ago that you could retrieve a value from a single
record recordset using syntax like:

    strInvAlt = db.OpenRecordset(strSQL)!TopExpense

where you don't dim a recordset, you just opened the recordset using
db.openrecordset() and then referenced a field of the recordset with the
!SomeField syntax.

My question is, the recordset itself is never assigned to a dimmed recordset
object.  Furthermore there is no db.CloseRecordset() syntax.  Does the
recordset just stay open until the database object itself is closed or is
used to open a different recordset?

I have a situation where I would dim a database object in the form header
and set that database object in OnOpen (to save the time it takes to Set
DB), then use this syntax to retrieve a value in OnCurrent.  I don't want
the recordset hanging out there though.  In thinking this through it seems
that if the db is not dimmed / set each time in the OnCurrent then I should
NOT use this syntax, but rather dim / set a recordset object as well in the
form header / OnOpen and then set the recordset object in the OnCurrent,
grab the field value and explicitly close the recordset (but NOT set the
recordset object = nothing)

Did that make any sense?  Thoughts on the subject?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Nov 16 11:01:14 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:01:14 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B7F@infoserver01.infostat.local>

John,

I believe the recordset generated in passing as you did it, goes out of
scope with the database object it was created on.  You haven't
instantiated the recordset object, so it has no separate existence.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 6:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?


I learned a long time ago that you could retrieve a value from a single
record recordset using syntax like:

    strInvAlt = db.OpenRecordset(strSQL)!TopExpense

where you don't dim a recordset, you just opened the recordset using
db.openrecordset() and then referenced a field of the recordset with the
!SomeField syntax.

My question is, the recordset itself is never assigned to a dimmed
recordset object.  Furthermore there is no db.CloseRecordset() syntax.
Does the recordset just stay open until the database object itself is
closed or is used to open a different recordset?

I have a situation where I would dim a database object in the form
header and set that database object in OnOpen (to save the time it takes
to Set DB), then use this syntax to retrieve a value in OnCurrent.  I
don't want the recordset hanging out there though.  In thinking this
through it seems that if the db is not dimmed / set each time in the
OnCurrent then I should NOT use this syntax, but rather dim / set a
recordset object as well in the form header / OnOpen and then set the
recordset object in the OnCurrent, grab the field value and explicitly
close the recordset (but NOT set the recordset object = nothing)

Did that make any sense?  Thoughts on the subject?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy

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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Tue Nov 16 11:08:28 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:08:28 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08653F5F62@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

John,

The Database object instantiates a Recordset to return the field value
for you.  Since the Recordset instance is not assigned to a variable, it
is instantly out of scope and VBA's garbage collection will
automatically destroy and cleanup its instance.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 8:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?


I learned a long time ago that you could retrieve a value from a single
record recordset using syntax like:

    strInvAlt = db.OpenRecordset(strSQL)!TopExpense

where you don't dim a recordset, you just opened the recordset using
db.openrecordset() and then referenced a field of the recordset with the
!SomeField syntax.

My question is, the recordset itself is never assigned to a dimmed
recordset
object.  Furthermore there is no db.CloseRecordset() syntax.  Does the
recordset just stay open until the database object itself is closed or
is
used to open a different recordset?

I have a situation where I would dim a database object in the form
header
and set that database object in OnOpen (to save the time it takes to Set
DB), then use this syntax to retrieve a value in OnCurrent.  I don't
want
the recordset hanging out there though.  In thinking this through it
seems
that if the db is not dimmed / set each time in the OnCurrent then I
should
NOT use this syntax, but rather dim / set a recordset object as well in
the
form header / OnOpen and then set the recordset object in the OnCurrent,
grab the field value and explicitly close the recordset (but NOT set the
recordset object = nothing)

Did that make any sense?  Thoughts on the subject?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


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From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Nov 16 11:12:54 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 12:12:54 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF98E@DISABILITYINS01>

Precisely, but I am dimming the db object in the form header and setting it
in the form's OnOpen to save the time of doing that in OnCurrent.  Thus it
never goes out of scope till the form closes (set = nothing in OnClose).

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 12:01 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?


John,

I believe the recordset generated in passing as you did it, goes out of
scope with the database object it was created on.  You haven't
instantiated the recordset object, so it has no separate existence.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 6:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?


I learned a long time ago that you could retrieve a value from a single
record recordset using syntax like:

    strInvAlt = db.OpenRecordset(strSQL)!TopExpense

where you don't dim a recordset, you just opened the recordset using
db.openrecordset() and then referenced a field of the recordset with the
!SomeField syntax.

My question is, the recordset itself is never assigned to a dimmed
recordset object.  Furthermore there is no db.CloseRecordset() syntax.
Does the recordset just stay open until the database object itself is
closed or is used to open a different recordset?

I have a situation where I would dim a database object in the form
header and set that database object in OnOpen (to save the time it takes
to Set DB), then use this syntax to retrieve a value in OnCurrent.  I
don't want the recordset hanging out there though.  In thinking this
through it seems that if the db is not dimmed / set each time in the
OnCurrent then I should NOT use this syntax, but rather dim / set a
recordset object as well in the form header / OnOpen and then set the
recordset object in the OnCurrent, grab the field value and explicitly
close the recordset (but NOT set the recordset object = nothing)

Did that make any sense?  Thoughts on the subject?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy

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From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Nov 16 11:26:25 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 12:26:25 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF98F@DISABILITYINS01>

IOW similar to a function which returns a variable, when the value returned
by that function is not stored, the returned value is destroyed.

Makes sense.  Of course "VBA's garbage collection will automatically destroy
and cleanup its instance" is enough to give me pause...

<grin>

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Brett Barabash [mailto:BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 12:08 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?


John,

The Database object instantiates a Recordset to return the field value
for you.  Since the Recordset instance is not assigned to a variable, it
is instantly out of scope and VBA's garbage collection will
automatically destroy and cleanup its instance.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 8:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?


I learned a long time ago that you could retrieve a value from a single
record recordset using syntax like:

    strInvAlt = db.OpenRecordset(strSQL)!TopExpense

where you don't dim a recordset, you just opened the recordset using
db.openrecordset() and then referenced a field of the recordset with the
!SomeField syntax.

My question is, the recordset itself is never assigned to a dimmed
recordset
object.  Furthermore there is no db.CloseRecordset() syntax.  Does the
recordset just stay open until the database object itself is closed or
is
used to open a different recordset?

I have a situation where I would dim a database object in the form
header
and set that database object in OnOpen (to save the time it takes to Set
DB), then use this syntax to retrieve a value in OnCurrent.  I don't
want
the recordset hanging out there though.  In thinking this through it
seems
that if the db is not dimmed / set each time in the OnCurrent then I
should
NOT use this syntax, but rather dim / set a recordset object as well in
the
form header / OnOpen and then set the recordset object in the OnCurrent,
grab the field value and explicitly close the recordset (but NOT set the
recordset object = nothing)

Did that make any sense?  Thoughts on the subject?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Tue Nov 16 12:30:59 2004
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 13:30:59 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] duplicates question * can't find in archives
Message-ID: <s19a0187.065@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

I have been searching archives, but I can't find this yet...

I am rewriting a DB that was originally done on a Unix box. I have
imported their data and I am trying to make it fit my scheme. Their way
(the old way) was to enter all information again and again and again.
This DB is tracking residents going to school out of district (I guess
there is some reimbursement from home county) and each semester they
enter SSN, Name, School, etc..

I am making the student screen so that once the SSN, Name, & Address is
entered, the rest is entered in a subform. So I think I need to take the
current table and break it down into two tables. I will have to rid the
student table of all dups and somehow link the other table...the new
tbl_stntdata table...to the tblStudent table.

How do I get rid of all the dups? Or can I? Maybe I'll just tell them
that they'll have to go "day forward."


From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 16 12:48:47 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 10:48:47 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?
In-Reply-To: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF98D@DISABILITYINS01>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIEEDJCIAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi John:

Scary...I guess they have not been audited yet. To my understanding only
cash-sales do not officially require a invoice number but all sales must
have an internal audit number. Even deleted or destroyed transactions must
be saved or archived. Of course the USA IRS may not be as ruthless..?

Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 8:33 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?


Actually I am accessing related data in another table entirely (child).  I
know about the recordsetclone.

What I am doing is...

DIS has people / companies invoice them where the invoice does not have an
invoice number.  If there is an invoice number, we put it in the memo field
of the generated check (out in Quickbooks).  If there is no invoice number
provided, we create one with a DISXXX where XXX is just an incrementing
number.

The issue is that the idiots that don't provide an invoice number call us up
complaining that they don't know what the check is for.  So....

The invoice is for a set of related expenses (for a given claim).  Since the
expense is child to the Invoice (a line item of the Invoice), I want to go
get the first expense (line item) and copy the description into a field up
in the invoice.  That description will now be printed on the check memo
field so that they at least can go looking for the expense description (they
provide us) and try to cut down on the calls from idiots.

It is incredible to me that a company mails an invoice without an invoice
number.  HELLO!!!  ANYONE HOME OUT THERE?  And then they complain when they
can't figure out what the payment is for.

The stupids are ganging up on us!

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 10:56 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?


Hi John:

There is a default recordset created when a form is opened and can be used
in all sorts of ways. When a bound form is opened the recordset is
pre-filled. You can access and use it like:

Dim rs as Object

Set rs = Me.Recordset.Clone
rs.FindFirst "[ContractNumber] = '" & Me![cmbFindContractNumber] & "'"
If Not rs.EOF Then Me.Bookmark = rs.Bookmark

When the form is closed both of the recordsets are automatically closed as a
clone can not exist without it's 'original'.

Your code is just another way of accessing it.

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 6:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?


I learned a long time ago that you could retrieve a value from a single
record recordset using syntax like:

    strInvAlt = db.OpenRecordset(strSQL)!TopExpense

where you don't dim a recordset, you just opened the recordset using
db.openrecordset() and then referenced a field of the recordset with the
!SomeField syntax.

My question is, the recordset itself is never assigned to a dimmed recordset
object.  Furthermore there is no db.CloseRecordset() syntax.  Does the
recordset just stay open until the database object itself is closed or is
used to open a different recordset?

I have a situation where I would dim a database object in the form header
and set that database object in OnOpen (to save the time it takes to Set
DB), then use this syntax to retrieve a value in OnCurrent.  I don't want
the recordset hanging out there though.  In thinking this through it seems
that if the db is not dimmed / set each time in the OnCurrent then I should
NOT use this syntax, but rather dim / set a recordset object as well in the
form header / OnOpen and then set the recordset object in the OnCurrent,
grab the field value and explicitly close the recordset (but NOT set the
recordset object = nothing)

Did that make any sense?  Thoughts on the subject?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy

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From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Nov 16 12:59:14 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 13:59:14 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] duplicates question * can't find in archives
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF990@DISABILITYINS01>

You can but... the probability of dirty data is 100%.  IOW, the probability
that they mis-spelled things they were typing in over and over will make the
process of normalization somewhat more painful than dentistry sans Novocain.

If you still want to, say so and I will provide info on the "how to".

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: John Clark [mailto:John.Clark at niagaracounty.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 1:31 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] duplicates question * can't find in archives


I have been searching archives, but I can't find this yet...

I am rewriting a DB that was originally done on a Unix box. I have
imported their data and I am trying to make it fit my scheme. Their way
(the old way) was to enter all information again and again and again.
This DB is tracking residents going to school out of district (I guess
there is some reimbursement from home county) and each semester they
enter SSN, Name, School, etc..

I am making the student screen so that once the SSN, Name, & Address is
entered, the rest is entered in a subform. So I think I need to take the
current table and break it down into two tables. I will have to rid the
student table of all dups and somehow link the other table...the new
tbl_stntdata table...to the tblStudent table.

How do I get rid of all the dups? Or can I? Maybe I'll just tell them
that they'll have to go "day forward."
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From JHewson at karta.com  Tue Nov 16 13:08:35 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 13:08:35 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] duplicates question * can't find in archives
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068CC7@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

My first thought: is to duplicate the student table and rename it to tbl_stndata.
Change the old PK to a FK.  Add a new PK.
Run a duplicate query on the student data table, change the FK to one of those showing.
After that's done, then delete the fields no longer needed.
Delete all the records duplicated/deleted from the Student table.
For example, if records 24, 125, 156 were referencing the same student.
The records 125 and 156 could be deleted in the student table and the FK changed to 24 in the student data table.
Once both tables have been modified a relationship could be established.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 12:31 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] duplicates question * can't find in archives


I have been searching archives, but I can't find this yet...

I am rewriting a DB that was originally done on a Unix box. I have
imported their data and I am trying to make it fit my scheme. Their way
(the old way) was to enter all information again and again and again.
This DB is tracking residents going to school out of district (I guess
there is some reimbursement from home county) and each semester they
enter SSN, Name, School, etc..

I am making the student screen so that once the SSN, Name, & Address is
entered, the rest is entered in a subform. So I think I need to take the
current table and break it down into two tables. I will have to rid the
student table of all dups and somehow link the other table...the new
tbl_stntdata table...to the tblStudent table.

How do I get rid of all the dups? Or can I? Maybe I'll just tell them
that they'll have to go "day forward."
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From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Nov 16 13:10:12 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:10:12 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF991@DISABILITYINS01>

>Of course the USA IRS may not be as ruthless

LOL.  The IRS is indeed known for being ruthless...

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 1:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?


Hi John:

Scary...I guess they have not been audited yet. To my understanding only
cash-sales do not officially require a invoice number but all sales must
have an internal audit number. Even deleted or destroyed transactions must
be saved or archived. Of course the USA IRS may not be as ruthless..?

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 8:33 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?


Actually I am accessing related data in another table entirely (child).  I
know about the recordsetclone.

What I am doing is...

DIS has people / companies invoice them where the invoice does not have an
invoice number.  If there is an invoice number, we put it in the memo field
of the generated check (out in Quickbooks).  If there is no invoice number
provided, we create one with a DISXXX where XXX is just an incrementing
number.

The issue is that the idiots that don't provide an invoice number call us up
complaining that they don't know what the check is for.  So....

The invoice is for a set of related expenses (for a given claim).  Since the
expense is child to the Invoice (a line item of the Invoice), I want to go
get the first expense (line item) and copy the description into a field up
in the invoice.  That description will now be printed on the check memo
field so that they at least can go looking for the expense description (they
provide us) and try to cut down on the calls from idiots.

It is incredible to me that a company mails an invoice without an invoice
number.  HELLO!!!  ANYONE HOME OUT THERE?  And then they complain when they
can't figure out what the payment is for.

The stupids are ganging up on us!

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 10:56 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?


Hi John:

There is a default recordset created when a form is opened and can be used
in all sorts of ways. When a bound form is opened the recordset is
pre-filled. You can access and use it like:

Dim rs as Object

Set rs = Me.Recordset.Clone
rs.FindFirst "[ContractNumber] = '" & Me![cmbFindContractNumber] & "'"
If Not rs.EOF Then Me.Bookmark = rs.Bookmark

When the form is closed both of the recordsets are automatically closed as a
clone can not exist without it's 'original'.

Your code is just another way of accessing it.

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 6:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] What happens to the recordset?


I learned a long time ago that you could retrieve a value from a single
record recordset using syntax like:

    strInvAlt = db.OpenRecordset(strSQL)!TopExpense

where you don't dim a recordset, you just opened the recordset using
db.openrecordset() and then referenced a field of the recordset with the
!SomeField syntax.

My question is, the recordset itself is never assigned to a dimmed recordset
object.  Furthermore there is no db.CloseRecordset() syntax.  Does the
recordset just stay open until the database object itself is closed or is
used to open a different recordset?

I have a situation where I would dim a database object in the form header
and set that database object in OnOpen (to save the time it takes to Set
DB), then use this syntax to retrieve a value in OnCurrent.  I don't want
the recordset hanging out there though.  In thinking this through it seems
that if the db is not dimmed / set each time in the OnCurrent then I should
NOT use this syntax, but rather dim / set a recordset object as well in the
form header / OnOpen and then set the recordset object in the OnCurrent,
grab the field value and explicitly close the recordset (but NOT set the
recordset object = nothing)

Did that make any sense?  Thoughts on the subject?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy

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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Tue Nov 16 13:50:41 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 13:50:41 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Re: A2003: Design Question
In-Reply-To: <200411161801.iAGI1FL01389@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041116134552.013eceb0@pop3.highstream.net>

The "sleek" solution is to design the database correctly.  :-)

tblParty
PartyID  Autonumber (pk)
PartyFullName
PartyFirstName
PartyMiddleName
PartyLastName
etc.....

If a client can also be a franchise, then you would need a table to break 
out the PartyType.

tblPartyType
PartyTypeID  Autonumber (PK)
PartyID  long integer  (fk)
PartyType   text(20)

Otherwise, add PartyType to tblParty.  By doing this, you can populate the 
TimeBilling table with which ever and never worry about it.

Robert

At 12:01 PM 11/16/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 12:03:48 +1100
>From: "Darren DICK" <d.dick at uws.edu.au>
>Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Design Question
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <200411160103.iAG13udQ009199 at cooper.uws.edu.au>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>Hi Team
>I Have a dB that holds data for both Clients (tblClients) and Franchises
>(tblFranchises)
>
>The tblClients holds all the usual client detail stuff - ClientID is the PK
>(Autonumber)
>tblFranchises holds various bits of information about any particular
>franchise - FranchiseID is the PK (Autonumber)
>
>So essentially 2 entity groups within the dB.
>
>BUT my client does work for both the Franchises and individual Customers.
>In order to present both of them in a TimeBilling Screen I use a union query
>to 'merge' both
>groups into a single combo
>
>The problem is storing the PK correctly. eg say I select the 4th Franchise
>in the list - it has a PK of 4
>Well an entry on the client side will also have a PK of 4.
>
>I am tossing up with various ways to deal with this including merging both
>tables into one
>table and just setting a flag to differentiate Clients from Franchises.
>Of course I can have separate fields in the tblTimeBilling for FranchiseID
>and for ClientID.
>
>Just not sure what would be a sleek solution :-))
>
>I am sure this is a common type of thing - I just wanted to know some
>methods on
>how you guys deal with this sort of design question.
>
>Many thanks
>
>Darren
>




From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Nov 16 13:53:40 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:53:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Setting the LinkMaster/Child field
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF992@DISABILITYINS01>

In code I am attempting to set the LinkChildFields and LinkMasterFields
properties of the subform control.  I get a runtime error 2101 "The setting
you entered isn't valid for this property" even though if I go back and look
at the property it is set to the value I placed in it.  Has anyone
encountered this?  

It appears that this is a string property (text) which is interpreted by the
control at subform load time.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy



From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Tue Nov 16 13:55:59 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 13:55:59 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Re: ODBC against Oracle partitioned db
In-Reply-To: <200411161801.iAGI1FL01389@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041116135414.01419f28@pop3.highstream.net>

As you can see, Access and the ODBC driver has trouble with a partioned table.

Use Toad or something like it for the type of things you would do in 
running queries and viewing data.  Since it is written for Oracle, it plays 
with it better.

Robert

At 12:01 PM 11/16/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 10:28:49 -0500
>From: "O'Connor, Patricia \(OTDA\)"
>         <Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us>
>Subject: [AccessD] ODBC against Oracle partitioned db
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID:
>         <B94C79B465542042AB0748EAF37F9AC0A427B1 at EXCNYSM0A1AB.nysemail.nyenet>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>Hi all
>
>When I use the Oracle ODBC driver against an ORACLE un-partitioned table
>from Access (either passthru or gui), I have not problem. Data comes
>back can scroll through 1-30+K records no problem.
>
>When I use same driver against an Oracle partitioned table from access,
>I get temporary freeze ups when scrolling through records even scrolling
>from column 1 to say col 10 on screen. It doesn't matter how many
>records in set - scroll down 3-6 records - stop. Sometimes the stall can
>be 2-5 minutes.
>
>Doesn't matter if it is the only thing running on computer. I do not
>have this problem with an unpartioned set.  I waste a good amount of
>time waiting for access to let me back in.
>
>Has anyone run into this and is there a workaround or setting I need to
>change in the driver configuration.  My machine is Win2k, Access2k,
>Oracle10
>
>Thanks in advance
>Patti




From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Nov 16 16:10:05 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:10:05 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Setting the LinkMaster/Child field
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8679D176@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Yes, I have.  I found that this tends to happen when there is already a
string in the property, so I got around it by testing for an existing
string.  Also, be careful what event you're trying to use to set the
property.  Don't try to set the links in the Open event of the parent
form, although you can set the subform object there.  You can set both
in the Load event of the form, however.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 11:54 AM
To: 'AccessD at DatabaseAdvisors.com'
Subject: [AccessD] Setting the LinkMaster/Child field


In code I am attempting to set the LinkChildFields and LinkMasterFields
properties of the subform control.  I get a runtime error 2101 "The
setting you entered isn't valid for this property" even though if I go
back and look at the property it is set to the value I placed in it.
Has anyone encountered this?  

It appears that this is a string property (text) which is interpreted by
the control at subform load time.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy

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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Tue Nov 16 22:03:08 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 15:03:08 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
Message-ID: <200411170403.iAH43JdQ023690@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hello all
I have an educational client who has a CD full of Education URL's (Zillion's
of 'em)
Occasionally someone has to test to see if the links are broken or not
(Manually <yuk>)
 
I thought this would be a perfect application for Access
Set up a table of URLs and loop through 'em and return TRUE or FALSE
 
So...Is there a way I can type in say...http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
and return "true" if the site exists or "false" if the site does not exist.
 
I know I can ping http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
<http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au/>  and get a result
but how would I capture the ping 'reply' from DOS to a table?
 
Or...if any of you already have a method they would like to share them
please let me know
 
Make sense??
 
See ya 
 
Darren
 


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Nov 17 00:04:51 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:04:51 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
In-Reply-To: <200411170403.iAH43JdQ023690@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <419B76A3.10791.1B493706@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 17 Nov 2004 at 15:03, Darren DICK wrote:

>  
> So...Is there a way I can type in say...http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
> and return "true" if the site exists or "false" if the site does not exist.
>  
> I know I can ping http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
> <http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au/>  and get a result
> but how would I capture the ping 'reply' from DOS to a table?
>  
> Or...if any of you already have a method they would like to share them
> please let me know
>  

Are they all domains or are some of them links to pages?  If the latter, 
you need to test whether the domain is valid (using DNS lookup) and also 
test whether a link valid is valid (ie look for 404 messages in response to 
HTTP requests).  In other words you will have to write your own HTTP engine 
:-(

That will still not detect links that point to "parked" domains (take a 
look at http://www.airniugini.com as an example of a parked domain)










-- 
Stuart




From Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk  Wed Nov 17 03:29:12 2004
From: Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk (Paul Rodgers)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:29:12 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] IMESentenceMode gremlin
Message-ID: <EAF3070ACB1AD81182280002A51EF731192362@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>

A slight change to a cmd button on a form has Access offering a fault, 'You
entered an expression that has an invalid reference to the  property
IMESentenceMode'. 

The debug highlight is of an unrelated, unchanged piece of code.
 
Anyone been here, please, and answered this seemingly strange error. Cheers
paul 



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov 17 03:35:40 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:35:40 +0100
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
Message-ID: <s19b2989.010@cactus.dk>

Hi Darren
 
We use these functions:
 
<code module>
 
Private Declare Function URLDownloadToFile Lib "urlmon" Alias
"URLDownloadToFileA" ( _
  ByVal pCaller As Long, _
  ByVal szURL As String, _
  ByVal szFileName As String, _
  ByVal dwReserved As Long, _
  ByVal lpfnCB As Long) _
  As Long

Public Function IsURL(ByVal strURL As String) As Boolean
 
' Usage: Check if URL strURL is alive and reachable.
'   booURL = IsURL("http://www.ibm.com")
'   booURL = IsURL("ftp://ftp.novell.com")
'
' Note: Protocol header like "http://" must be provided.
'
' 2001-12-09. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.
 
  ' File found at most URLs.
  Const cstrFileIndex As String = "index.htm"
 
  IsURL = (URLDownloadToFile(0, strURL, cstrFileIndex, 0, 0) = 0)
  
End Function

</code module>
 
If your URLs contains html document name you will have to modify the
code to use that and not append index.html.
 
/gustav

>>> d.dick at uws.edu.au 17-11-2004 05:03:08 >>>

I have an educational client who has a CD full of Education URL's
(Zillion's of 'em)
Occasionally someone has to test to see if the links are broken or not
(Manually <yuk>)

I thought this would be a perfect application for Access
Set up a table of URLs and loop through 'em and return TRUE or FALSE

So...Is there a way I can type in
say...http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
and return "true" if the site exists or "false" if the site does not
exist.
 


From actebs at actebs.com.au  Wed Nov 17 04:57:23 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 21:57:23 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Cool Date Picker
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD5055833280886D7@starfleet.unknown.local>

Guys,

I remember ages ago someone had developed a really cool date picker that did not require an ActiveX control. I had it in my favourites and have since accidentally lost all my favourites after a recent machine format **Don't you hate that** : (. If someone could post the link it would be much appreciated...

Thanx
Vlad



From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Wed Nov 17 06:29:25 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 13:29:25 +0100
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B552B@stekelbes.ithelps.local>


Seeing this, I wunder if there is someone who has some code (and wants
to share it) to check all hyperlinks in the favorites of IE to see if
the page/website still exists?

Beeing on the internet for probably about 10 years now got me a lot of
favorites that are aged and no longer exists...

I like to clean up (sometimes).

Erwin


 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:36 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS

Hi Darren
 
We use these functions:
 
<code module>
 
Private Declare Function URLDownloadToFile Lib "urlmon" Alias
"URLDownloadToFileA" ( _
  ByVal pCaller As Long, _
  ByVal szURL As String, _
  ByVal szFileName As String, _
  ByVal dwReserved As Long, _
  ByVal lpfnCB As Long) _
  As Long

Public Function IsURL(ByVal strURL As String) As Boolean
 
' Usage: Check if URL strURL is alive and reachable.
'   booURL = IsURL("http://www.ibm.com")
'   booURL = IsURL("ftp://ftp.novell.com")
'
' Note: Protocol header like "http://" must be provided.
'
' 2001-12-09. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.
 
  ' File found at most URLs.
  Const cstrFileIndex As String = "index.htm"
 
  IsURL = (URLDownloadToFile(0, strURL, cstrFileIndex, 0, 0) = 0)
  
End Function

</code module>
 
If your URLs contains html document name you will have to modify the
code to use that and not append index.html.
 
/gustav

>>> d.dick at uws.edu.au 17-11-2004 05:03:08 >>>

I have an educational client who has a CD full of Education URL's
(Zillion's of 'em) Occasionally someone has to test to see if the links
are broken or not (Manually <yuk>)

I thought this would be a perfect application for Access Set up a table
of URLs and loop through 'em and return TRUE or FALSE

So...Is there a way I can type in
say...http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
and return "true" if the site exists or "false" if the site does not
exist.
 
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From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Wed Nov 17 07:47:20 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Steve Conklin (Developer@UltraDNT))
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 08:47:20 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Cool Date Picker
In-Reply-To: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD5055833280886D7@starfleet.unknown.local>
Message-ID: <001801c4ccab$f62377d0$0200a8c0@COA3>

http://lebans.com/monthcalendar.htm


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of ACTEBS
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 5:57 AM
To: Access Group (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Cool Date Picker


Guys,

I remember ages ago someone had developed a really cool date picker that
did not require an ActiveX control. I had it in my favourites and have
since accidentally lost all my favourites after a recent machine format
**Don't you hate that** : (. If someone could post the link it would be
much appreciated...

Thanx
Vlad

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From viner at EUnet.yu  Wed Nov 17 07:49:14 2004
From: viner at EUnet.yu (Ervin Brindza)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 14:49:14 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Cool Date Picker
References: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD5055833280886D7@starfleet.unknown.local>
Message-ID: <005601c4ccac$41dc14c0$0100a8c0@razvoj>

See Lyle Fairfield's date_picker.zip  on http://ffdba.com/newIndex.htm
Ervin
----- Original Message -----
From: "ACTEBS" <actebs at actebs.com.au>
To: "Access Group (E-mail)" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: 17 November, 2004 11:57 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Cool Date Picker


> Guys,
>
> I remember ages ago someone had developed a really cool date picker that
did not require an ActiveX control. I had it in my favourites and have since
accidentally lost all my favourites after a recent machine format **Don't
you hate that** : (. If someone could post the link it would be much
appreciated...
>
> Thanx
> Vlad
>
> --
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Wed Nov 17 08:16:33 2004
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:16:33 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Cool Date Picker
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A27D2@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Try Drew's demo at

http://www.mvps.org/access/forms/frm0050.htm

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of ACTEBS
> Sent:	Wednesday, November 17, 2004 5:57 AM
> To:	Access Group \(E-mail\)
> Subject:	[AccessD] Cool Date Picker
> 
> Guys,
> 
> I remember ages ago someone had developed a really cool date picker that
> did not require an ActiveX control. I had it in my favourites and have
> since accidentally lost all my favourites after a recent machine format
> **Don't you hate that** : (. If someone could post the link it would be
> much appreciated...
> 
> Thanx
> Vlad
> 
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From garykjos at gmail.com  Wed Nov 17 08:45:41 2004
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 08:45:41 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Cool Date Picker
In-Reply-To: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD5055833280886D7@starfleet.unknown.local>
References: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD5055833280886D7@starfleet.unknown.local>
Message-ID: <aea6c49504111706456274d2db@mail.gmail.com>

That would probably be Drew's Mini Calendar I would guess.

http://www.wolfwares.com/Access/microsoft_access.htm



On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 21:57:23 +1100, ACTEBS <actebs at actebs.com.au> wrote:
> Guys,
> 
> I remember ages ago someone had developed a really cool date picker that did not require an ActiveX control. I had it in my favourites and have since accidentally lost all my favourites after a recent machine format **Don't you hate that** : (. If someone could post the link it would be much appreciated...
> 
> Thanx
> Vlad
> 
> --
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> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
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> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Nov 17 10:43:39 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 08:43:39 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] IMESentenceMode gremlin
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B85@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Are you working with Windows CE?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Rodgers [mailto:Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 1:29 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] IMESentenceMode gremlin


A slight change to a cmd button on a form has Access offering a fault,
'You entered an expression that has an invalid reference to the
property IMESentenceMode'. 

The debug highlight is of an unrelated, unchanged piece of code.
 
Anyone been here, please, and answered this seemingly strange error.
Cheers paul 

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From pjewett at bayplace.com  Wed Nov 17 11:51:24 2004
From: pjewett at bayplace.com (Phil Jewett)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:51:24 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Objects won't close after binding a form
Message-ID: <F24E31ECF2C99349AACF5C51856D5F88826C@pluto2.home.bayplace.com>

I had an unbound form with a handful of subforms that was working fine -
nothing fancy.  All the other forms in the mdb are regular bound forms
and they work fine.  I then bound the unbound form to a table and added
a few fields.  The form worked fine, except that the form won't close -
the Close button does nothing.  The form does not hang - it just won't
close.  If I try to switch to design mode, I get the error message:

You can't switch to a different view at this time.  Code was executing
when you tried to switch views.

If I then open up any other object (form, table) the Close buttons on
them don't work either!  But if I hit the Close button on the database
window, the other windows (not the database window) will then close -
one at a time, including the problem form.  Very odd.

If I unbind the form, the problem sometimes, but not always, goes away.
Sometimes the form won't even close from design view.  I've tried
backups, exporting the objects to a blank mdb, compacting, etc.  The
problem is wonderfully reproduceable!  I suppose I can just stay with
the unbound form, but I hate to build a system with a suspect mdb.

Using Access 2000 SP3 with SQL Server 2000.

Phil Jewett



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 17 14:11:14 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 12:11:14 -0800
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
References: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B552B@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <419BB062.40007@shaw.ca>

I have some really rough code written for Win 95, let me see if I can 
upgraded it
but just grab all the ".url"  files in the sub directories below that 
contain your favourites in win xp or win 2000
C:\Documents and Settings\usename\Favorites
then pass your .url filename to this routine to drag out the http address
Then pass http url string to xmlhttp or winhttp this will return a 404 
if not valid or 500 if server gone etc.

Public Function GetHTTPfromURL(FileNaam As String) As String
Dim FSO As New Scripting.FileSystemObject
Dim oFile As file
Dim oText As TextStream
Dim strLine As String

'grab the folder already so just get FileName
'Set oFolder = FSO.GetFolder(Path)
Set oFile = FSO.GetFile(FileNaam)
      Set oText = oFile.OpenAsTextStream
      Do
         strLine = oText.ReadLine 'contains [InternetShortcut]
      Loop Until strLine = "[InternetShortcut]"
      strLine = oText.ReadLine 'should contains URL=
      oText.Close
     
   ' Open "C:\Windows\Favorites\" & Text1.Text & ".url" For Binary 
Access Write As #1 ' Save the file.
   'Open FileNaam For Binary Access Read As #1 ' Read the file.
   ' Put #1, , "[InternetShortcut]" & vbNewLine & "URL=" & Text1.Text
   'Get #1, , VarBuf
   Debug.Print "**" & strLine & "**"
   ' Close #1
   ' MsgBox "URL sucessfully added to Favorites!", vbInformation
   GetHTTPfromURL = strLine
End Function

Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:

>Seeing this, I wunder if there is someone who has some code (and wants
>to share it) to check all hyperlinks in the favorites of IE to see if
>the page/website still exists?
>
>Beeing on the internet for probably about 10 years now got me a lot of
>favorites that are aged and no longer exists...
>
>I like to clean up (sometimes).
>
>Erwin
>
>
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:36 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>
>Hi Darren
> 
>We use these functions:
> 
><code module>
> 
>Private Declare Function URLDownloadToFile Lib "urlmon" Alias
>"URLDownloadToFileA" ( _
>  ByVal pCaller As Long, _
>  ByVal szURL As String, _
>  ByVal szFileName As String, _
>  ByVal dwReserved As Long, _
>  ByVal lpfnCB As Long) _
>  As Long
>
>Public Function IsURL(ByVal strURL As String) As Boolean
> 
>' Usage: Check if URL strURL is alive and reachable.
>'   booURL = IsURL("http://www.ibm.com")
>'   booURL = IsURL("ftp://ftp.novell.com")
>'
>' Note: Protocol header like "http://" must be provided.
>'
>' 2001-12-09. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.
> 
>  ' File found at most URLs.
>  Const cstrFileIndex As String = "index.htm"
> 
>  IsURL = (URLDownloadToFile(0, strURL, cstrFileIndex, 0, 0) = 0)
>  
>End Function
>
></code module>
> 
>If your URLs contains html document name you will have to modify the
>code to use that and not append index.html.
> 
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>d.dick at uws.edu.au 17-11-2004 05:03:08 >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>
>I have an educational client who has a CD full of Education URL's
>(Zillion's of 'em) Occasionally someone has to test to see if the links
>are broken or not (Manually <yuk>)
>
>I thought this would be a perfect application for Access Set up a table
>of URLs and loop through 'em and return TRUE or FALSE
>
>So...Is there a way I can type in
>say...http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
>and return "true" if the site exists or "false" if the site does not
>exist.
> 
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Nov 17 10:43:28 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:43:28 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Cool Date Picker
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D0A2@main2.marlow.com>

Actually the last 'finished' version is on my website.
http://www.wolfwares.com

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 8:17 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'ACTEBS'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cool Date Picker


Try Drew's demo at

http://www.mvps.org/access/forms/frm0050.htm

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of ACTEBS
> Sent:	Wednesday, November 17, 2004 5:57 AM
> To:	Access Group \(E-mail\)
> Subject:	[AccessD] Cool Date Picker
> 
> Guys,
> 
> I remember ages ago someone had developed a really cool date picker that
> did not require an ActiveX control. I had it in my favourites and have
> since accidentally lost all my favourites after a recent machine format
> **Don't you hate that** : (. If someone could post the link it would be
> much appreciated...
> 
> Thanx
> Vlad
> 
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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Nov 17 10:17:24 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 11:17:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Design Question
In-Reply-To: <419994EE.4020904@rogers.com>
References: <200411160225.iAG2P4dQ020224@cooper.uws.edu.au>
	<419994EE.4020904@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <419B7994.1030907@rogers.com>

Arthur Fuller wrote:

> Darren DICK wrote:
>
>> Hi Stuart
>> Thanks for the reply
>> In your suggestion I would create a 3rd table called tblEntity - yes?
>> How does it get populated?
>>
>> How would I store entries to the tblTimeBilling table.
>> IE in the union combo how would I store that PK 4 in this case is a
>> franchise
>> Not a client?
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>> Darren
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart 
>> McLachlan
>> Sent: Tuesday, 16 November 2004 12:25 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003: Design Question
>>
>> On 16 Nov 2004 at 12:03, Darren DICK wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>>
>>> BUT my client does work for both the Franchises and individual 
>>> Customers. In order to present both of them in a TimeBilling Screen 
>>> I use a union query to 'merge' both groups into a single combo
>>>
>>> The problem is storing the PK correctly. eg say I select the 4th 
>>> Franchise in the list - it has a PK of 4 Well an entry on the client 
>>> side will also have a PK of 4.
>>>
>>> I am tossing up with various ways to deal with this including 
>>> merging both tables into one table and just setting a flag to 
>>> differentiate Clients from Franchises.
>>> Of course I can have separate fields in the tblTimeBilling for 
>>> FranchiseID and for ClientID.
>>>
>>>   
>>
>>
>> I'd probably go for a tblEntity with 3 fields:
>>
>> ID
>> EntityType (Franchise or Client)
>> EntityID
>>
>> You can then base your ComboBox on a query something like:
>>
>> Select ID , IIF(EntityType = "F", FranchiseName,ClientName) as 
>> EntityName
>>
>>> From tblEntities Left  Join tblFranchises ....... Left Join TblClients
>>
>> ......
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Stuart
>>
>>
>>  
>>
> Is there a profitable reason to store these entities in different 
> tables? There may well be, but in your problem description it is not 
> apparent. If my hunch is correct, then you can put both Franchises and 
> Customers in the same table, adding a flag to indicate which. There is 
> the possibility however that an entity is both a Customer and a 
> Franchise, in which case a boolean won't do, so replace it with a 
> numeric.
>
> Up side: much simpler combo selectors.
> Down side: selecting only one or the other type demands hitting the 
> whole table (unless the BE is SQL).
>
> HTH,
> Arthur

SELECT EntityID, EntityName, IIF(EntityType="C", "Customer","Franchise") 
AS Type
FROM tblEntities
ORDER BY EntityName

You could ORDER BY EntityType first to gather them into two groups.



From Subscriptions at servicexp.com  Wed Nov 17 16:01:19 2004
From: Subscriptions at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 17:01:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Cool Date Picker
In-Reply-To: <005601c4ccac$41dc14c0$0100a8c0@razvoj>
Message-ID: <GPEGJHKJCEPGJIEIOEOOEEAJEEAA.Subscriptions@servicexp.com>

I can attest to Lyle's date_picker. It's rock solid and extremely easy to
use.


Robert Gracie
www.servicexp.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Ervin Brindza
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 8:49 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Cool Date Picker


See Lyle Fairfield's date_picker.zip  on http://ffdba.com/newIndex.htm
Ervin
----- Original Message -----
From: "ACTEBS" <actebs at actebs.com.au>
To: "Access Group (E-mail)" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: 17 November, 2004 11:57 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Cool Date Picker


> Guys,
>
> I remember ages ago someone had developed a really cool date picker that
did not require an ActiveX control. I had it in my favourites and have since
accidentally lost all my favourites after a recent machine format **Don't
you hate that** : (. If someone could post the link it would be much
appreciated...
>
> Thanx
> Vlad
>
> --
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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Nov 17 16:12:29 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 09:12:29 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Design Question
In-Reply-To: <419B7994.1030907@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <200411172212.iAHMCcdQ022664@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Thanks Arthur and Stuart
et al who replied

I combined the tables and set a flag in each to dictate their Entity Type

Simple solution solved everything <sigh>

Many thanks

See y'all

Darren

 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Thursday, 18 November 2004 3:17 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003: Design Question

Arthur Fuller wrote:

> Darren DICK wrote:
>
>> Hi Stuart
>> Thanks for the reply
>> In your suggestion I would create a 3rd table called tblEntity - yes?
>> How does it get populated?
>>
>> How would I store entries to the tblTimeBilling table.
>> IE in the union combo how would I store that PK 4 in this case is a 
>> franchise Not a client?
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>> Darren
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart 
>> McLachlan
>> Sent: Tuesday, 16 November 2004 12:25 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003: Design Question
>>
>> On 16 Nov 2004 at 12:03, Darren DICK wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>>
>>> BUT my client does work for both the Franchises and individual 
>>> Customers. In order to present both of them in a TimeBilling Screen 
>>> I use a union query to 'merge' both groups into a single combo
>>>
>>> The problem is storing the PK correctly. eg say I select the 4th 
>>> Franchise in the list - it has a PK of 4 Well an entry on the client 
>>> side will also have a PK of 4.
>>>
>>> I am tossing up with various ways to deal with this including 
>>> merging both tables into one table and just setting a flag to 
>>> differentiate Clients from Franchises.
>>> Of course I can have separate fields in the tblTimeBilling for 
>>> FranchiseID and for ClientID.
>>>
>>>   
>>
>>
>> I'd probably go for a tblEntity with 3 fields:
>>
>> ID
>> EntityType (Franchise or Client)
>> EntityID
>>
>> You can then base your ComboBox on a query something like:
>>
>> Select ID , IIF(EntityType = "F", FranchiseName,ClientName) as 
>> EntityName
>>
>>> From tblEntities Left  Join tblFranchises ....... Left Join 
>>> TblClients
>>
>> ......
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Stuart
>>
>>
>>  
>>
> Is there a profitable reason to store these entities in different 
> tables? There may well be, but in your problem description it is not 
> apparent. If my hunch is correct, then you can put both Franchises and 
> Customers in the same table, adding a flag to indicate which. There is 
> the possibility however that an entity is both a Customer and a 
> Franchise, in which case a boolean won't do, so replace it with a 
> numeric.
>
> Up side: much simpler combo selectors.
> Down side: selecting only one or the other type demands hitting the 
> whole table (unless the BE is SQL).
>
> HTH,
> Arthur

SELECT EntityID, EntityName, IIF(EntityType="C", "Customer","Franchise") AS
Type FROM tblEntities ORDER BY EntityName

You could ORDER BY EntityType first to gather them into two groups.

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 17 17:33:39 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 15:33:39 -0800
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
References: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B552B@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
	<419BB062.40007@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <419BDFD3.90008@shaw.ca>

Here is the rest of the basic routines takes a couple of minutes for 
10000 favourites
I was amazed I only had 100 duplicates.
I used to dump to an xml file of favourites that I could cart around.

Just create a table to hold all your favourite url's
with 3 text fields 255 long to hold directory path and filename
1 numeric field for file length
1 date field
1 memo field to hold http url, it will go longer than 255 characters for 
things like google addresses

'temporary database
Dim MyDb As DATABASE
Dim MyRs As Recordset

' findsub "C:\Documents and Settings\marty\Favorites\", "*url"
Sub testgrab()
Set MyDb = CurrentDb
Set MyRs = MyDb.OpenRecordset("TempURL")
 FindSub "C:\Documents and Settings\marty\Favorites\", "*url"
Set MyRs = Nothing
Set MyDb = Nothing
End Sub

Sub FindSub(strStart As String, strFindWhat As String)
Dim arrFindDir() As String
Dim strFind As String
Dim i As Long

ChDrive (Left(strStart, 3))
ChDir (strStart)

Call DirSub(strFindWhat, strStart)

strFind = Dir("*.*", vbDirectory)
i = 0

Do Until strFind = ""
ReDim Preserve arrFindDir(i)
   arrFindDir(i) = strFind
   i = i + 1
   strFind = Dir()
Loop

For i = 0 To UBound(arrFindDir)
  If Dir(arrFindDir(i), vbNormal) = "" And Left(arrFindDir(i), 1) <> "." 
Then

   ' Recursive call
   Call FindSub(strStart & arrFindDir(i) & "\", strFindWhat)
   ChDir (strStart)
  End If
Next
End Sub
Sub DirSub(strFindWhat, strStart)
Dim strFindfile As String
Dim strFullPathName As String
'temporary database
'Dim MyDb As DATABASE
'Dim MyRs As Recordset
'Set MyDb = CurrentDb
'Set MyRs = MyDb.OpenRecordset("TempURL")
strFindfile = Dir(strFindWhat, vbNormal)
Do While strFindfile <> ""
'Debug.Print strStart & " - " & strFindfile
  '.lstFiles.AddItem strStart & strFindfile
   '  colMyList.Add strStart & strFindfile
   strFullPathName = strStart & strFindfile
   Debug.Print Len(strFullPathName) & "-" & strFullPathName
     MyRs.AddNew
            MyRs!Dirnaam = strStart
            MyRs!FileNaam = strFullPathName
            MyRs!file = strFindfile
            On Error Resume Next 'Weird url filename problems here that 
are dos illegal because of  "?" characters
                                                 ' you can pick out of 
table as they will have no filelength.
            MyRs!FileLen = FileLen(strFullPathName)
            MyRs!datTime = FileDateTime(strFullPathName)
            MyRs!Http = GetHTTPfromURL(strFullPathName)
            On Error GoTo 0
     MyRs.Update
  
  strFindfile = Dir()
Loop
'Set MyRs = Nothing
'Set MyDb = Nothing
End Sub

MartyConnelly wrote:

> I have some really rough code written for Win 95, let me see if I can 
> upgraded it
> but just grab all the ".url"  files in the sub directories below that 
> contain your favourites in win xp or win 2000
> C:\Documents and Settings\usename\Favorites
> then pass your .url filename to this routine to drag out the http address
> Then pass http url string to xmlhttp or winhttp this will return a 404 
> if not valid or 500 if server gone etc.
>
> Public Function GetHTTPfromURL(FileNaam As String) As String
> Dim FSO As New Scripting.FileSystemObject
> Dim oFile As file
> Dim oText As TextStream
> Dim strLine As String
>
> 'grab the folder already so just get FileName
> 'Set oFolder = FSO.GetFolder(Path)
> Set oFile = FSO.GetFile(FileNaam)
>      Set oText = oFile.OpenAsTextStream
>      Do
>         strLine = oText.ReadLine 'contains [InternetShortcut]
>      Loop Until strLine = "[InternetShortcut]"
>      strLine = oText.ReadLine 'should contains URL=
>      oText.Close
>       ' Open "C:\Windows\Favorites\" & Text1.Text & ".url" For Binary 
> Access Write As #1 ' Save the file.
>   'Open FileNaam For Binary Access Read As #1 ' Read the file.
>   ' Put #1, , "[InternetShortcut]" & vbNewLine & "URL=" & Text1.Text
>   'Get #1, , VarBuf
>   Debug.Print "**" & strLine & "**"
>   ' Close #1
>   ' MsgBox "URL sucessfully added to Favorites!", vbInformation
>   GetHTTPfromURL = strLine
> End Function
>
> Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:
>
>> Seeing this, I wunder if there is someone who has some code (and wants
>> to share it) to check all hyperlinks in the favorites of IE to see if
>> the page/website still exists?
>>
>> Beeing on the internet for probably about 10 years now got me a lot of
>> favorites that are aged and no longer exists...
>>
>> I like to clean up (sometimes).
>>
>> Erwin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:36 AM
>> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>> Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>>
>> Hi Darren
>>
>> We use these functions:
>>
>> <code module>
>>
>> Private Declare Function URLDownloadToFile Lib "urlmon" Alias
>> "URLDownloadToFileA" ( _
>>  ByVal pCaller As Long, _
>>  ByVal szURL As String, _
>>  ByVal szFileName As String, _
>>  ByVal dwReserved As Long, _
>>  ByVal lpfnCB As Long) _
>>  As Long
>>
>> Public Function IsURL(ByVal strURL As String) As Boolean
>>
>> ' Usage: Check if URL strURL is alive and reachable.
>> '   booURL = IsURL("http://www.ibm.com")
>> '   booURL = IsURL("ftp://ftp.novell.com")
>> '
>> ' Note: Protocol header like "http://" must be provided.
>> '
>> ' 2001-12-09. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.
>>
>>  ' File found at most URLs.
>>  Const cstrFileIndex As String = "index.htm"
>>
>>  IsURL = (URLDownloadToFile(0, strURL, cstrFileIndex, 0, 0) = 0)
>>  
>> End Function
>>
>> </code module>
>>
>> If your URLs contains html document name you will have to modify the
>> code to use that and not append index.html.
>>
>> /gustav
>>
>>  
>>
>>>>> d.dick at uws.edu.au 17-11-2004 05:03:08 >>>
>>>>>       
>>>>
>>
>> I have an educational client who has a CD full of Education URL's
>> (Zillion's of 'em) Occasionally someone has to test to see if the links
>> are broken or not (Manually <yuk>)
>>
>> I thought this would be a perfect application for Access Set up a table
>> of URLs and loop through 'em and return TRUE or FALSE
>>
>> So...Is there a way I can type in
>> say...http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
>> and return "true" if the site exists or "false" if the site does not
>> exist.
>>
>> -- 
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>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>  
>>
>

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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Nov 17 18:58:27 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:58:27 +1100
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
In-Reply-To: <s19b2989.010@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <200411180058.iAI0wbdQ015891@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Gustav
Many thanks
I'm not sure how to use the code though :-(( I get odd results

When I put isUrl ("http://www.ibm.com") behind a button on a form
and put debug.print IsURL at the end of Public Function IsURL
I get "true"
If I put msgbox IsYrl at the end of Public Function IsURL
I get false
??
Dunno what it all means

http://www.ibm.com is a valid and live website
How do it know if there will be an index.htm file at the other end?
And how come I get differeing results with MSGBOX and Debug.print?

Obviously doing something wrong

Many thanks in advance

Darren



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, 17 November 2004 8:36 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS

Hi Darren
 
We use these functions:
 
<code module>
 
Private Declare Function URLDownloadToFile Lib "urlmon" Alias
"URLDownloadToFileA" ( _
  ByVal pCaller As Long, _
  ByVal szURL As String, _
  ByVal szFileName As String, _
  ByVal dwReserved As Long, _
  ByVal lpfnCB As Long) _
  As Long

Public Function IsURL(ByVal strURL As String) As Boolean
 
' Usage: Check if URL strURL is alive and reachable.
'   booURL = IsURL("http://www.ibm.com")
'   booURL = IsURL("ftp://ftp.novell.com")
'
' Note: Protocol header like "http://" must be provided.
'
' 2001-12-09. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.
 
  ' File found at most URLs.
  Const cstrFileIndex As String = "index.htm"
 
  IsURL = (URLDownloadToFile(0, strURL, cstrFileIndex, 0, 0) = 0)
  
End Function

</code module>
 
If your URLs contains html document name you will have to modify the code to
use that and not append index.html.
 
/gustav

>>> d.dick at uws.edu.au 17-11-2004 05:03:08 >>>

I have an educational client who has a CD full of Education URL's (Zillion's
of 'em) Occasionally someone has to test to see if the links are broken or
not (Manually <yuk>)

I thought this would be a perfect application for Access Set up a table of
URLs and loop through 'em and return TRUE or FALSE

So...Is there a way I can type in
say...http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
and return "true" if the site exists or "false" if the site does not exist.
 
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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Nov 17 19:08:54 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 12:08:54 +1100
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
In-Reply-To: <419BB062.40007@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <200411180109.iAI194dQ024697@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Marty 
Thanks for the reply
Couple of Q's though :-))

I can't compile past the...

Dim FSO  as New Scripting.FileSystemObject

What do I need to ref to get this to work?

I tried alternative of....

Set fso = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")

and managed to get it to compile and the code 'seemed' to work. In that it
filled the temp table with what looked to be correct values - but Dunno if
this is the same

The Public Function GetHTTPfromURL didn't seem to populate the HTTP Column
the temp table

Once I do have all the relevant information in the table - how do I actually
tell if
The link is live (or have I missed it in the code)

Many thanks

Darren


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Thursday, 18 November 2004 7:11 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS

I have some really rough code written for Win 95, let me see if I can
upgraded it but just grab all the ".url"  files in the sub directories below
that contain your favourites in win xp or win 2000 C:\Documents and
Settings\usename\Favorites then pass your .url filename to this routine to
drag out the http address Then pass http url string to xmlhttp or winhttp
this will return a 404 if not valid or 500 if server gone etc.

Public Function GetHTTPfromURL(FileNaam As String) As String Dim FSO As New
Scripting.FileSystemObject Dim oFile As file Dim oText As TextStream Dim
strLine As String

'grab the folder already so just get FileName 'Set oFolder =
FSO.GetFolder(Path) Set oFile = FSO.GetFile(FileNaam)
      Set oText = oFile.OpenAsTextStream
      Do
         strLine = oText.ReadLine 'contains [InternetShortcut]
      Loop Until strLine = "[InternetShortcut]"
      strLine = oText.ReadLine 'should contains URL=
      oText.Close
     
   ' Open "C:\Windows\Favorites\" & Text1.Text & ".url" For Binary Access
Write As #1 ' Save the file.
   'Open FileNaam For Binary Access Read As #1 ' Read the file.
   ' Put #1, , "[InternetShortcut]" & vbNewLine & "URL=" & Text1.Text
   'Get #1, , VarBuf
   Debug.Print "**" & strLine & "**"
   ' Close #1
   ' MsgBox "URL sucessfully added to Favorites!", vbInformation
   GetHTTPfromURL = strLine
End Function

Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:

>Seeing this, I wunder if there is someone who has some code (and wants 
>to share it) to check all hyperlinks in the favorites of IE to see if 
>the page/website still exists?
>
>Beeing on the internet for probably about 10 years now got me a lot of 
>favorites that are aged and no longer exists...
>
>I like to clean up (sometimes).
>
>Erwin
>
>
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:36 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>
>Hi Darren
> 
>We use these functions:
> 
><code module>
> 
>Private Declare Function URLDownloadToFile Lib "urlmon" Alias 
>"URLDownloadToFileA" ( _
>  ByVal pCaller As Long, _
>  ByVal szURL As String, _
>  ByVal szFileName As String, _
>  ByVal dwReserved As Long, _
>  ByVal lpfnCB As Long) _
>  As Long
>
>Public Function IsURL(ByVal strURL As String) As Boolean
> 
>' Usage: Check if URL strURL is alive and reachable.
>'   booURL = IsURL("http://www.ibm.com")
>'   booURL = IsURL("ftp://ftp.novell.com")
>'
>' Note: Protocol header like "http://" must be provided.
>'
>' 2001-12-09. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.
> 
>  ' File found at most URLs.
>  Const cstrFileIndex As String = "index.htm"
> 
>  IsURL = (URLDownloadToFile(0, strURL, cstrFileIndex, 0, 0) = 0)
>  
>End Function
>
></code module>
> 
>If your URLs contains html document name you will have to modify the 
>code to use that and not append index.html.
> 
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>d.dick at uws.edu.au 17-11-2004 05:03:08 >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>
>I have an educational client who has a CD full of Education URL's 
>(Zillion's of 'em) Occasionally someone has to test to see if the links 
>are broken or not (Manually <yuk>)
>
>I thought this would be a perfect application for Access Set up a table 
>of URLs and loop through 'em and return TRUE or FALSE
>
>So...Is there a way I can type in
>say...http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
>and return "true" if the site exists or "false" if the site does not 
>exist.
> 
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>

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From terry.mace at baesystems.com  Wed Nov 17 19:36:57 2004
From: terry.mace at baesystems.com (MACE, Terry)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 12:06:57 +1030
Subject: [AccessD] Corrupt Data File
Message-ID: <B20C5B1CB8A30543BD7A9F173F29CCFDAABCDF@abw2ex1.au.baesystems.com>


Help!!

I have a store management database application in Ac97 and last night the
back end data file was corrupted.  I have run the Ac97 repair tool and also
Jetcomp.exe on the file and they both say the file is OK.

The problem is when I attempt to open it I get the following message:

"'Index1' isn't an index in this table. Look in the indexes collection of
the TableDef object to determine the valid index names." OK /HELP

Clicking on the OK button just terminates the opening process.  Due to an
undiscovered (until now!) quirk in our backup system, this file has never
been backed up.  The file size is 7.2Mb and contains about 7000 records. A
zipped copy is about 1.6Mb.

Any advice on how or who could fix it would be most appreciated.

Terry Mace
BAE Systems
Melbourne, Australia


From jmhla at earthlink.net  Wed Nov 17 19:56:53 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 17:56:53 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.
Message-ID: <200411180156.iAI1uhL09921@databaseadvisors.com>

Inherited database problem.

 

OK Stop laughing at me.

At least the original programmer is still there.

 

I added a table to the BE. I cant or can't remember how to make the FE see
the new table to do forms and stuff.

 

Thanks

 

 

Joe Hecht

jmhla at earthlink.net

28g

 



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Nov 17 20:07:15 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 21:07:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.
In-Reply-To: <200411180156.iAI1uhL09921@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <007101c4cd13$54a52bc0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

File/get external data/link table

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 8:57 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.


Inherited database problem.

 

OK Stop laughing at me.

At least the original programmer is still there.

 

I added a table to the BE. I cant or can't remember how to make the FE see
the new table to do forms and stuff.

 

Thanks

 

 

Joe Hecht

jmhla at earthlink.net

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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Nov 17 20:31:17 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 13:31:17 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
In-Reply-To: <419B76A3.10791.1B493706@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <200411180231.iAI2VRdR004987@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Thanks for the reply Stuart
I dunno what they are
They are just a gazillion URL type links
I just saw them written on a page and was told each one was being 'viewed'
manually
I thought there must be an easier way

Some Egs are
http://uws.edu.au/staff/adminorg/academic/edc/av_services
http://uws.edu.au/staff/adminorg/academic/edc/vcf
http://waceinc.org
http://fit.qut.edu.au/courses/undergrad/coop/

Also a lot of them have .index.html and readset1.htm etc
At the end of the URL

Many thanks

Darren


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Wednesday, 17 November 2004 5:05 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS

On 17 Nov 2004 at 15:03, Darren DICK wrote:

>  
> So...Is there a way I can type in 
> say...http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
> and return "true" if the site exists or "false" if the site does not
exist.
>  
> I know I can ping http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
> <http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au/>  and get a result but how 
> would I capture the ping 'reply' from DOS to a table?
>  
> Or...if any of you already have a method they would like to share them 
> please let me know
>  

Are they all domains or are some of them links to pages?  If the latter, you
need to test whether the domain is valid (using DNS lookup) and also test
whether a link valid is valid (ie look for 404 messages in response to HTTP
requests).  In other words you will have to write your own HTTP engine :-(

That will still not detect links that point to "parked" domains (take a look
at http://www.airniugini.com as an example of a parked domain)










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From pcs at azizaz.com  Wed Nov 17 20:50:16 2004
From: pcs at azizaz.com (pcs at azizaz.com)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 12:50:16 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Corrupt Data File
References: <B20C5B1CB8A30543BD7A9F173F29CCFDAABCDF@abw2ex1.au.baesystems.com>
Message-ID: <013701c4cd19$55bd91e0$fa10a8c0@Albatross>

Are you able to import the backendDb tables into a new empty db?

Regards
Borge

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To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:36 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Corrupt Data File


>
> Help!!
>
> I have a store management database application in Ac97 and last night the
> back end data file was corrupted.  I have run the Ac97 repair tool and
also
> Jetcomp.exe on the file and they both say the file is OK.
>
> The problem is when I attempt to open it I get the following message:
>
> "'Index1' isn't an index in this table. Look in the indexes collection of
> the TableDef object to determine the valid index names." OK /HELP
>
> Clicking on the OK button just terminates the opening process.  Due to an
> undiscovered (until now!) quirk in our backup system, this file has never
> been backed up.  The file size is 7.2Mb and contains about 7000 records. A
> zipped copy is about 1.6Mb.
>
> Any advice on how or who could fix it would be most appreciated.
>
> Terry Mace
> BAE Systems
> Melbourne, Australia
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 17 20:50:52 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 18:50:52 -0800
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
References: <200411180109.iAI194dQ024697@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <419C0E0C.7050405@shaw.ca>

Reference for scripting filesystem object
Wshom.ocx Windows Script Host Model
generically known as WSH

You should be getting Http Url printed out with asterix in debug window
if it is working, before it is placed in the memo field, maybe a typo 
name error in table or code

The code to test validity of url could be something like this
with request status being returned as 404 or 500 for invalid just like 
http error codes;  200 for normal or good

The response Debug.Print HttpReq.StatusText will give you a better 
explanation.

You should have some version of XML installed if using IE 6.0

'?testurlxml("http://www.microsoft.com")
Function testurlxml(strURL As String) As String
  Dim HttpReq As Object
  Set HttpReq = CreateObject("MSXML2.XMLHTTP")
  HttpReq.Open "GET", strURL, False
  HttpReq.send
  'Debug.Print HttpReq.responseText 'this is returned html string
  Debug.Print HttpReq.Status
  Debug.Print HttpReq.StatusText
  testurlxml = HttpReq.Status '200 normal
End Function

You can also verify legality of url string
Private Declare Function PathIsURL Lib "shlwapi.dll" _
   Alias "PathIsURLA" _
  (ByVal pszPath As String) As Long



Private Function IsPathAURL(ByVal sPath As String) As Boolean

  'Tests a given string to determine if it
  'conforms to a valid URL format. Returns
  'True if sPath has a valid URL format,
  'or False otherwise.

  'This function does not verify that the
  'path points to an existing site, only
  'that it has a valid URL format.

   IsPathAURL = PathIsURL(sPath) = 1

End Function

Darren DICK wrote:

>Hi Marty 
>Thanks for the reply
>Couple of Q's though :-))
>
>I can't compile past the...
>
>Dim FSO  as New Scripting.FileSystemObject
>
>What do I need to ref to get this to work?
>
>I tried alternative of....
>
>Set fso = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
>
>and managed to get it to compile and the code 'seemed' to work. In that it
>filled the temp table with what looked to be correct values - but Dunno if
>this is the same
>
>The Public Function GetHTTPfromURL didn't seem to populate the HTTP Column
>the temp table
>
>Once I do have all the relevant information in the table - how do I actually
>tell if
>The link is live (or have I missed it in the code)
>
>Many thanks
>
>Darren
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
>Sent: Thursday, 18 November 2004 7:11 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>
>I have some really rough code written for Win 95, let me see if I can
>upgraded it but just grab all the ".url"  files in the sub directories below
>that contain your favourites in win xp or win 2000 C:\Documents and
>Settings\usename\Favorites then pass your .url filename to this routine to
>drag out the http address Then pass http url string to xmlhttp or winhttp
>this will return a 404 if not valid or 500 if server gone etc.
>
>Public Function GetHTTPfromURL(FileNaam As String) As String Dim FSO As New
>Scripting.FileSystemObject Dim oFile As file Dim oText As TextStream Dim
>strLine As String
>
>'grab the folder already so just get FileName 'Set oFolder =
>FSO.GetFolder(Path) Set oFile = FSO.GetFile(FileNaam)
>      Set oText = oFile.OpenAsTextStream
>      Do
>         strLine = oText.ReadLine 'contains [InternetShortcut]
>      Loop Until strLine = "[InternetShortcut]"
>      strLine = oText.ReadLine 'should contains URL=
>      oText.Close
>     
>   ' Open "C:\Windows\Favorites\" & Text1.Text & ".url" For Binary Access
>Write As #1 ' Save the file.
>   'Open FileNaam For Binary Access Read As #1 ' Read the file.
>   ' Put #1, , "[InternetShortcut]" & vbNewLine & "URL=" & Text1.Text
>   'Get #1, , VarBuf
>   Debug.Print "**" & strLine & "**"
>   ' Close #1
>   ' MsgBox "URL sucessfully added to Favorites!", vbInformation
>   GetHTTPfromURL = strLine
>End Function
>
>Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Seeing this, I wunder if there is someone who has some code (and wants 
>>to share it) to check all hyperlinks in the favorites of IE to see if 
>>the page/website still exists?
>>
>>Beeing on the internet for probably about 10 years now got me a lot of 
>>favorites that are aged and no longer exists...
>>
>>I like to clean up (sometimes).
>>
>>Erwin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>>Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:36 AM
>>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>>Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>>
>>Hi Darren
>>
>>We use these functions:
>>
>><code module>
>>
>>Private Declare Function URLDownloadToFile Lib "urlmon" Alias 
>>"URLDownloadToFileA" ( _
>> ByVal pCaller As Long, _
>> ByVal szURL As String, _
>> ByVal szFileName As String, _
>> ByVal dwReserved As Long, _
>> ByVal lpfnCB As Long) _
>> As Long
>>
>>Public Function IsURL(ByVal strURL As String) As Boolean
>>
>>' Usage: Check if URL strURL is alive and reachable.
>>'   booURL = IsURL("http://www.ibm.com")
>>'   booURL = IsURL("ftp://ftp.novell.com")
>>'
>>' Note: Protocol header like "http://" must be provided.
>>'
>>' 2001-12-09. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.
>>
>> ' File found at most URLs.
>> Const cstrFileIndex As String = "index.htm"
>>
>> IsURL = (URLDownloadToFile(0, strURL, cstrFileIndex, 0, 0) = 0)
>> 
>>End Function
>>
>></code module>
>>
>>If your URLs contains html document name you will have to modify the 
>>code to use that and not append index.html.
>>
>>/gustav
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>>>d.dick at uws.edu.au 17-11-2004 05:03:08 >>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>I have an educational client who has a CD full of Education URL's 
>>(Zillion's of 'em) Occasionally someone has to test to see if the links 
>>are broken or not (Manually <yuk>)
>>
>>I thought this would be a perfect application for Access Set up a table 
>>of URLs and loop through 'em and return TRUE or FALSE
>>
>>So...Is there a way I can type in
>>say...http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
>>and return "true" if the site exists or "false" if the site does not 
>>exist.
>>
>>--
>>_______________________________________________
>>AccessD mailing list
>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>
>--
>Marty Connelly
>Victoria, B.C.
>Canada
>
>
>
>  
>

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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Nov 17 21:12:33 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 14:12:33 +1100
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
In-Reply-To: <419C0E0C.7050405@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <200411180312.iAI3CidQ011702@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Marty
I have Windows Script Host Object Model Referenced
It still fails on the line FSO As New Scripting.FileSystemObject
The reference file is...
C:\Windows\System32\wshom.ocx
I have it at the top (Welll 3rd at least) of the available references

Can you remove you reference to it and decompile to see if it fails on that
line for you??

Many thanks

Darren

 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Thursday, 18 November 2004 1:51 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS

Reference for scripting filesystem object Wshom.ocx Windows Script Host
Model generically known as WSH

You should be getting Http Url printed out with asterix in debug window if
it is working, before it is placed in the memo field, maybe a typo name
error in table or code

The code to test validity of url could be something like this with request
status being returned as 404 or 500 for invalid just like http error codes;
200 for normal or good

The response Debug.Print HttpReq.StatusText will give you a better
explanation.

You should have some version of XML installed if using IE 6.0

'?testurlxml("http://www.microsoft.com")
Function testurlxml(strURL As String) As String
  Dim HttpReq As Object
  Set HttpReq = CreateObject("MSXML2.XMLHTTP")
  HttpReq.Open "GET", strURL, False
  HttpReq.send
  'Debug.Print HttpReq.responseText 'this is returned html string
  Debug.Print HttpReq.Status
  Debug.Print HttpReq.StatusText
  testurlxml = HttpReq.Status '200 normal End Function

You can also verify legality of url string Private Declare Function
PathIsURL Lib "shlwapi.dll" _
   Alias "PathIsURLA" _
  (ByVal pszPath As String) As Long



Private Function IsPathAURL(ByVal sPath As String) As Boolean

  'Tests a given string to determine if it
  'conforms to a valid URL format. Returns
  'True if sPath has a valid URL format,
  'or False otherwise.

  'This function does not verify that the
  'path points to an existing site, only
  'that it has a valid URL format.

   IsPathAURL = PathIsURL(sPath) = 1

End Function

Darren DICK wrote:

>Hi Marty
>Thanks for the reply
>Couple of Q's though :-))
>
>I can't compile past the...
>
>Dim FSO  as New Scripting.FileSystemObject
>
>What do I need to ref to get this to work?
>
>I tried alternative of....
>
>Set fso = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
>
>and managed to get it to compile and the code 'seemed' to work. In that 
>it filled the temp table with what looked to be correct values - but 
>Dunno if this is the same
>
>The Public Function GetHTTPfromURL didn't seem to populate the HTTP 
>Column the temp table
>
>Once I do have all the relevant information in the table - how do I 
>actually tell if The link is live (or have I missed it in the code)
>
>Many thanks
>
>Darren
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
>MartyConnelly
>Sent: Thursday, 18 November 2004 7:11 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>
>I have some really rough code written for Win 95, let me see if I can 
>upgraded it but just grab all the ".url"  files in the sub directories 
>below that contain your favourites in win xp or win 2000 C:\Documents 
>and Settings\usename\Favorites then pass your .url filename to this 
>routine to drag out the http address Then pass http url string to 
>xmlhttp or winhttp this will return a 404 if not valid or 500 if server
gone etc.
>
>Public Function GetHTTPfromURL(FileNaam As String) As String Dim FSO As 
>New Scripting.FileSystemObject Dim oFile As file Dim oText As 
>TextStream Dim strLine As String
>
>'grab the folder already so just get FileName 'Set oFolder =
>FSO.GetFolder(Path) Set oFile = FSO.GetFile(FileNaam)
>      Set oText = oFile.OpenAsTextStream
>      Do
>         strLine = oText.ReadLine 'contains [InternetShortcut]
>      Loop Until strLine = "[InternetShortcut]"
>      strLine = oText.ReadLine 'should contains URL=
>      oText.Close
>     
>   ' Open "C:\Windows\Favorites\" & Text1.Text & ".url" For Binary 
>Access Write As #1 ' Save the file.
>   'Open FileNaam For Binary Access Read As #1 ' Read the file.
>   ' Put #1, , "[InternetShortcut]" & vbNewLine & "URL=" & Text1.Text
>   'Get #1, , VarBuf
>   Debug.Print "**" & strLine & "**"
>   ' Close #1
>   ' MsgBox "URL sucessfully added to Favorites!", vbInformation
>   GetHTTPfromURL = strLine
>End Function
>
>Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Seeing this, I wunder if there is someone who has some code (and wants 
>>to share it) to check all hyperlinks in the favorites of IE to see if 
>>the page/website still exists?
>>
>>Beeing on the internet for probably about 10 years now got me a lot of 
>>favorites that are aged and no longer exists...
>>
>>I like to clean up (sometimes).
>>
>>Erwin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav 
>>Brock
>>Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:36 AM
>>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>>Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>>
>>Hi Darren
>>
>>We use these functions:
>>
>><code module>
>>
>>Private Declare Function URLDownloadToFile Lib "urlmon" Alias 
>>"URLDownloadToFileA" ( _  ByVal pCaller As Long, _  ByVal szURL As 
>>String, _  ByVal szFileName As String, _  ByVal dwReserved As Long, _  
>>ByVal lpfnCB As Long) _  As Long
>>
>>Public Function IsURL(ByVal strURL As String) As Boolean
>>
>>' Usage: Check if URL strURL is alive and reachable.
>>'   booURL = IsURL("http://www.ibm.com")
>>'   booURL = IsURL("ftp://ftp.novell.com")
>>'
>>' Note: Protocol header like "http://" must be provided.
>>'
>>' 2001-12-09. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.
>>
>> ' File found at most URLs.
>> Const cstrFileIndex As String = "index.htm"
>>
>> IsURL = (URLDownloadToFile(0, strURL, cstrFileIndex, 0, 0) = 0)
>> 
>>End Function
>>
>></code module>
>>
>>If your URLs contains html document name you will have to modify the 
>>code to use that and not append index.html.
>>
>>/gustav
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>>>d.dick at uws.edu.au 17-11-2004 05:03:08 >>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>I have an educational client who has a CD full of Education URL's 
>>(Zillion's of 'em) Occasionally someone has to test to see if the 
>>links are broken or not (Manually <yuk>)
>>
>>I thought this would be a perfect application for Access Set up a 
>>table of URLs and loop through 'em and return TRUE or FALSE
>>
>>So...Is there a way I can type in
>>say...http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
>>and return "true" if the site exists or "false" if the site does not 
>>exist.
>>
>>--
>>_______________________________________________
>>AccessD mailing list
>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>
>--
>Marty Connelly
>Victoria, B.C.
>Canada
>
>
>
>  
>

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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Nov 17 21:28:01 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 14:28:01 +1100
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
In-Reply-To: <419C0E0C.7050405@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <200411180328.iAI3SCdQ026231@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Marty
It is now failing on  HttpReq.send 
In the Function testurlxml

I think it's time to quit - can't get it to work

I really am grateful for your time :-))

Many thanks

Darren
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Thursday, 18 November 2004 1:51 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS

Reference for scripting filesystem object Wshom.ocx Windows Script Host
Model generically known as WSH

You should be getting Http Url printed out with asterix in debug window if
it is working, before it is placed in the memo field, maybe a typo name
error in table or code

The code to test validity of url could be something like this with request
status being returned as 404 or 500 for invalid just like http error codes;
200 for normal or good

The response Debug.Print HttpReq.StatusText will give you a better
explanation.

You should have some version of XML installed if using IE 6.0

'?testurlxml("http://www.microsoft.com")
Function testurlxml(strURL As String) As String
  Dim HttpReq As Object
  Set HttpReq = CreateObject("MSXML2.XMLHTTP")
  HttpReq.Open "GET", strURL, False
  HttpReq.send
  'Debug.Print HttpReq.responseText 'this is returned html string
  Debug.Print HttpReq.Status
  Debug.Print HttpReq.StatusText
  testurlxml = HttpReq.Status '200 normal End Function

You can also verify legality of url string Private Declare Function
PathIsURL Lib "shlwapi.dll" _
   Alias "PathIsURLA" _
  (ByVal pszPath As String) As Long



Private Function IsPathAURL(ByVal sPath As String) As Boolean

  'Tests a given string to determine if it
  'conforms to a valid URL format. Returns
  'True if sPath has a valid URL format,
  'or False otherwise.

  'This function does not verify that the
  'path points to an existing site, only
  'that it has a valid URL format.

   IsPathAURL = PathIsURL(sPath) = 1

End Function

Darren DICK wrote:

>Hi Marty
>Thanks for the reply
>Couple of Q's though :-))
>
>I can't compile past the...
>
>Dim FSO  as New Scripting.FileSystemObject
>
>What do I need to ref to get this to work?
>
>I tried alternative of....
>
>Set fso = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
>
>and managed to get it to compile and the code 'seemed' to work. In that 
>it filled the temp table with what looked to be correct values - but 
>Dunno if this is the same
>
>The Public Function GetHTTPfromURL didn't seem to populate the HTTP 
>Column the temp table
>
>Once I do have all the relevant information in the table - how do I 
>actually tell if The link is live (or have I missed it in the code)
>
>Many thanks
>
>Darren
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
>MartyConnelly
>Sent: Thursday, 18 November 2004 7:11 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>
>I have some really rough code written for Win 95, let me see if I can 
>upgraded it but just grab all the ".url"  files in the sub directories 
>below that contain your favourites in win xp or win 2000 C:\Documents 
>and Settings\usename\Favorites then pass your .url filename to this 
>routine to drag out the http address Then pass http url string to 
>xmlhttp or winhttp this will return a 404 if not valid or 500 if server
gone etc.
>
>Public Function GetHTTPfromURL(FileNaam As String) As String Dim FSO As 
>New Scripting.FileSystemObject Dim oFile As file Dim oText As 
>TextStream Dim strLine As String
>
>'grab the folder already so just get FileName 'Set oFolder =
>FSO.GetFolder(Path) Set oFile = FSO.GetFile(FileNaam)
>      Set oText = oFile.OpenAsTextStream
>      Do
>         strLine = oText.ReadLine 'contains [InternetShortcut]
>      Loop Until strLine = "[InternetShortcut]"
>      strLine = oText.ReadLine 'should contains URL=
>      oText.Close
>     
>   ' Open "C:\Windows\Favorites\" & Text1.Text & ".url" For Binary 
>Access Write As #1 ' Save the file.
>   'Open FileNaam For Binary Access Read As #1 ' Read the file.
>   ' Put #1, , "[InternetShortcut]" & vbNewLine & "URL=" & Text1.Text
>   'Get #1, , VarBuf
>   Debug.Print "**" & strLine & "**"
>   ' Close #1
>   ' MsgBox "URL sucessfully added to Favorites!", vbInformation
>   GetHTTPfromURL = strLine
>End Function
>
>Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Seeing this, I wunder if there is someone who has some code (and wants 
>>to share it) to check all hyperlinks in the favorites of IE to see if 
>>the page/website still exists?
>>
>>Beeing on the internet for probably about 10 years now got me a lot of 
>>favorites that are aged and no longer exists...
>>
>>I like to clean up (sometimes).
>>
>>Erwin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav 
>>Brock
>>Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:36 AM
>>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>>Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>>
>>Hi Darren
>>
>>We use these functions:
>>
>><code module>
>>
>>Private Declare Function URLDownloadToFile Lib "urlmon" Alias 
>>"URLDownloadToFileA" ( _  ByVal pCaller As Long, _  ByVal szURL As 
>>String, _  ByVal szFileName As String, _  ByVal dwReserved As Long, _  
>>ByVal lpfnCB As Long) _  As Long
>>
>>Public Function IsURL(ByVal strURL As String) As Boolean
>>
>>' Usage: Check if URL strURL is alive and reachable.
>>'   booURL = IsURL("http://www.ibm.com")
>>'   booURL = IsURL("ftp://ftp.novell.com")
>>'
>>' Note: Protocol header like "http://" must be provided.
>>'
>>' 2001-12-09. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.
>>
>> ' File found at most URLs.
>> Const cstrFileIndex As String = "index.htm"
>>
>> IsURL = (URLDownloadToFile(0, strURL, cstrFileIndex, 0, 0) = 0)
>> 
>>End Function
>>
>></code module>
>>
>>If your URLs contains html document name you will have to modify the 
>>code to use that and not append index.html.
>>
>>/gustav
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>>>d.dick at uws.edu.au 17-11-2004 05:03:08 >>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>I have an educational client who has a CD full of Education URL's 
>>(Zillion's of 'em) Occasionally someone has to test to see if the 
>>links are broken or not (Manually <yuk>)
>>
>>I thought this would be a perfect application for Access Set up a 
>>table of URLs and loop through 'em and return TRUE or FALSE
>>
>>So...Is there a way I can type in
>>say...http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
>>and return "true" if the site exists or "false" if the site does not 
>>exist.
>>
>>--
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>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>
>--
>Marty Connelly
>Victoria, B.C.
>Canada
>
>
>
>  
>

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Wed Nov 17 21:39:48 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 19:39:48 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.
In-Reply-To: <007101c4cd13$54a52bc0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <000001c4cd20$414b54c0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

Thanks for unmelting my mind  John

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 6:07 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.

File/get external data/link table

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 8:57 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.


Inherited database problem.

 

OK Stop laughing at me.

At least the original programmer is still there.

 

I added a table to the BE. I cant or can't remember how to make the FE see
the new table to do forms and stuff.

 

Thanks

 

 

Joe Hecht

jmhla at earthlink.net

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Nov 17 21:56:08 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 22:56:08 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.
In-Reply-To: <000001c4cd20$414b54c0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <000301c4cd22$8a112ca0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

We all need a jolt sometimes.  I use Diet Pepsi or chocolate covered coffee
beans.  And now of course I'm starting walking on a treadmill.  8-0

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:40 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.


Thanks for unmelting my mind  John

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 6:07 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.

File/get external data/link table

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 8:57 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.


Inherited database problem.

 

OK Stop laughing at me.

At least the original programmer is still there.

 

I added a table to the BE. I cant or can't remember how to make the FE see
the new table to do forms and stuff.

 

Thanks

 

 

Joe Hecht

jmhla at earthlink.net

28g

 

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Wed Nov 17 22:05:29 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 20:05:29 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.
In-Reply-To: <000301c4cd22$8a112ca0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <000e01c4cd23$dabdfc90$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

Does the book on the tread mill say way a wizard button will not let you go
to a new record


JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 7:56 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.

We all need a jolt sometimes.  I use Diet Pepsi or chocolate covered coffee
beans.  And now of course I'm starting walking on a treadmill.  8-0

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:40 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.


Thanks for unmelting my mind  John

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 6:07 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.

File/get external data/link table

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 8:57 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.


Inherited database problem.

 

OK Stop laughing at me.

At least the original programmer is still there.

 

I added a table to the BE. I cant or can't remember how to make the FE see
the new table to do forms and stuff.

 

Thanks

 

 

Joe Hecht

jmhla at earthlink.net

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 17 23:36:53 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 21:36:53 -0800
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
References: <200411180312.iAI3CidQ011702@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <419C34F5.3080300@shaw.ca>

Arggh it is in both with a different intial reference IWshRuntimeLibrary 
instead of Scripting, you can see the difference in object browser.
also in scrrun.dll    Microsoft Scripting Runtime  I just looked at the 
first one.

You should have standard Microsoft XML V 4.0 or 3  if running win 2000 or XP
Installed by IE 6.0 or OS, unless some has deinstalled
c:\windows\system32\msxml4.dll

Darren DICK wrote:

>Hi Marty
>I have Windows Script Host Object Model Referenced
>It still fails on the line FSO As New Scripting.FileSystemObject
>The reference file is...
>C:\Windows\System32\wshom.ocx
>I have it at the top (Welll 3rd at least) of the available references
>
>Can you remove you reference to it and decompile to see if it fails on that
>line for you??
>
>Many thanks
>
>Darren
>
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
>Sent: Thursday, 18 November 2004 1:51 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>
>Reference for scripting filesystem object Wshom.ocx Windows Script Host
>Model generically known as WSH
>
>You should be getting Http Url printed out with asterix in debug window if
>it is working, before it is placed in the memo field, maybe a typo name
>error in table or code
>
>The code to test validity of url could be something like this with request
>status being returned as 404 or 500 for invalid just like http error codes;
>200 for normal or good
>
>The response Debug.Print HttpReq.StatusText will give you a better
>explanation.
>
>You should have some version of XML installed if using IE 6.0
>
>'?testurlxml("http://www.microsoft.com")
>Function testurlxml(strURL As String) As String
>  Dim HttpReq As Object
>  Set HttpReq = CreateObject("MSXML2.XMLHTTP")
>  HttpReq.Open "GET", strURL, False
>  HttpReq.send
>  'Debug.Print HttpReq.responseText 'this is returned html string
>  Debug.Print HttpReq.Status
>  Debug.Print HttpReq.StatusText
>  testurlxml = HttpReq.Status '200 normal End Function
>
>You can also verify legality of url string Private Declare Function
>PathIsURL Lib "shlwapi.dll" _
>   Alias "PathIsURLA" _
>  (ByVal pszPath As String) As Long
>
>
>
>Private Function IsPathAURL(ByVal sPath As String) As Boolean
>
>  'Tests a given string to determine if it
>  'conforms to a valid URL format. Returns
>  'True if sPath has a valid URL format,
>  'or False otherwise.
>
>  'This function does not verify that the
>  'path points to an existing site, only
>  'that it has a valid URL format.
>
>   IsPathAURL = PathIsURL(sPath) = 1
>
>End Function
>
>Darren DICK wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi Marty
>>Thanks for the reply
>>Couple of Q's though :-))
>>
>>I can't compile past the...
>>
>>Dim FSO  as New Scripting.FileSystemObject
>>
>>What do I need to ref to get this to work?
>>
>>I tried alternative of....
>>
>>Set fso = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
>>
>>and managed to get it to compile and the code 'seemed' to work. In that 
>>it filled the temp table with what looked to be correct values - but 
>>Dunno if this is the same
>>
>>The Public Function GetHTTPfromURL didn't seem to populate the HTTP 
>>Column the temp table
>>
>>Once I do have all the relevant information in the table - how do I 
>>actually tell if The link is live (or have I missed it in the code)
>>
>>Many thanks
>>
>>Darren
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
>>MartyConnelly
>>Sent: Thursday, 18 November 2004 7:11 AM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: Re: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>>
>>I have some really rough code written for Win 95, let me see if I can 
>>upgraded it but just grab all the ".url"  files in the sub directories 
>>below that contain your favourites in win xp or win 2000 C:\Documents 
>>and Settings\usename\Favorites then pass your .url filename to this 
>>routine to drag out the http address Then pass http url string to 
>>xmlhttp or winhttp this will return a 404 if not valid or 500 if server
>>    
>>
>gone etc.
>  
>
>>Public Function GetHTTPfromURL(FileNaam As String) As String Dim FSO As 
>>New Scripting.FileSystemObject Dim oFile As file Dim oText As 
>>TextStream Dim strLine As String
>>
>>'grab the folder already so just get FileName 'Set oFolder =
>>FSO.GetFolder(Path) Set oFile = FSO.GetFile(FileNaam)
>>     Set oText = oFile.OpenAsTextStream
>>     Do
>>        strLine = oText.ReadLine 'contains [InternetShortcut]
>>     Loop Until strLine = "[InternetShortcut]"
>>     strLine = oText.ReadLine 'should contains URL=
>>     oText.Close
>>    
>>  ' Open "C:\Windows\Favorites\" & Text1.Text & ".url" For Binary 
>>Access Write As #1 ' Save the file.
>>  'Open FileNaam For Binary Access Read As #1 ' Read the file.
>>  ' Put #1, , "[InternetShortcut]" & vbNewLine & "URL=" & Text1.Text
>>  'Get #1, , VarBuf
>>  Debug.Print "**" & strLine & "**"
>>  ' Close #1
>>  ' MsgBox "URL sucessfully added to Favorites!", vbInformation
>>  GetHTTPfromURL = strLine
>>End Function
>>
>>Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Seeing this, I wunder if there is someone who has some code (and wants 
>>>to share it) to check all hyperlinks in the favorites of IE to see if 
>>>the page/website still exists?
>>>
>>>Beeing on the internet for probably about 10 years now got me a lot of 
>>>favorites that are aged and no longer exists...
>>>
>>>I like to clean up (sometimes).
>>>
>>>Erwin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav 
>>>Brock
>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:36 AM
>>>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>>>Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>>>
>>>Hi Darren
>>>
>>>We use these functions:
>>>
>>><code module>
>>>
>>>Private Declare Function URLDownloadToFile Lib "urlmon" Alias 
>>>"URLDownloadToFileA" ( _  ByVal pCaller As Long, _  ByVal szURL As 
>>>String, _  ByVal szFileName As String, _  ByVal dwReserved As Long, _  
>>>ByVal lpfnCB As Long) _  As Long
>>>
>>>Public Function IsURL(ByVal strURL As String) As Boolean
>>>
>>>' Usage: Check if URL strURL is alive and reachable.
>>>'   booURL = IsURL("http://www.ibm.com")
>>>'   booURL = IsURL("ftp://ftp.novell.com")
>>>'
>>>' Note: Protocol header like "http://" must be provided.
>>>'
>>>' 2001-12-09. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.
>>>
>>>' File found at most URLs.
>>>Const cstrFileIndex As String = "index.htm"
>>>
>>>IsURL = (URLDownloadToFile(0, strURL, cstrFileIndex, 0, 0) = 0)
>>>
>>>End Function
>>>
>>></code module>
>>>
>>>If your URLs contains html document name you will have to modify the 
>>>code to use that and not append index.html.
>>>
>>>/gustav
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>>d.dick at uws.edu.au 17-11-2004 05:03:08 >>>
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>I have an educational client who has a CD full of Education URL's 
>>>(Zillion's of 'em) Occasionally someone has to test to see if the 
>>>links are broken or not (Manually <yuk>)
>>>
>>>I thought this would be a perfect application for Access Set up a 
>>>table of URLs and loop through 'em and return TRUE or FALSE
>>>
>>>So...Is there a way I can type in
>>>say...http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
>>>and return "true" if the site exists or "false" if the site does not 
>>>exist.
>>>
>>>--
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>AccessD mailing list
>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>--
>>Marty Connelly
>>Victoria, B.C.
>>Canada
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>
>--
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>Victoria, B.C.
>Canada
>
>
>
>  
>

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From terry.mace at baesystems.com  Wed Nov 17 23:41:04 2004
From: terry.mace at baesystems.com (MACE, Terry)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 16:11:04 +1030
Subject: [AccessD] Corrupt Data File
Message-ID: <B20C5B1CB8A30543BD7A9F173F29CCFDAABCE1@abw2ex1.au.baesystems.com>

Borge,

That worked! I didn't think to try that - there was a corrupted test report
that I don't need, so all the data is safe - yea!

Thanks
Terry

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, 18 November 2004 13:50
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Corrupt Data File


Are you able to import the backendDb tables into a new empty db?

Regards
Borge

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Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:36 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Corrupt Data File


>
> Help!!
>
> I have a store management database application in Ac97 and last night the
> back end data file was corrupted.  I have run the Ac97 repair tool and
also
> Jetcomp.exe on the file and they both say the file is OK.
>
> The problem is when I attempt to open it I get the following message:
>
> "'Index1' isn't an index in this table. Look in the indexes collection of
> the TableDef object to determine the valid index names." OK /HELP
>
> Clicking on the OK button just terminates the opening process.  Due to an
> undiscovered (until now!) quirk in our backup system, this file has never
> been backed up.  The file size is 7.2Mb and contains about 7000 records. A
> zipped copy is about 1.6Mb.
>
> Any advice on how or who could fix it would be most appreciated.
>
> Terry Mace
> BAE Systems
> Melbourne, Australia
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 17 23:44:23 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 21:44:23 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Corrupt Data File
References: <B20C5B1CB8A30543BD7A9F173F29CCFDAABCDF@abw2ex1.au.baesystems.com>
Message-ID: <419C36B7.6060200@shaw.ca>

Try Peter Miller at
http://www.pksolutions.com
If it is fixable the cost is between $200 and $500
You just ftp the file to their site.

MACE, Terry wrote:

>Help!!
>
>I have a store management database application in Ac97 and last night the
>back end data file was corrupted.  I have run the Ac97 repair tool and also
>Jetcomp.exe on the file and they both say the file is OK.
>
>The problem is when I attempt to open it I get the following message:
>
>"'Index1' isn't an index in this table. Look in the indexes collection of
>the TableDef object to determine the valid index names." OK /HELP
>
>Clicking on the OK button just terminates the opening process.  Due to an
>undiscovered (until now!) quirk in our backup system, this file has never
>been backed up.  The file size is 7.2Mb and contains about 7000 records. A
>zipped copy is about 1.6Mb.
>
>Any advice on how or who could fix it would be most appreciated.
>
>Terry Mace
>BAE Systems
>Melbourne, Australia
>  
>

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Thu Nov 18 00:03:51 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 22:03:51 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] New Record wizard button fails
Message-ID: <001601c4cd34$635d9f50$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

On click it says I cant go to that record

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net 

 


From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Thu Nov 18 02:06:37 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 09:06:37 +0100
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5537@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Thank you,  

I added the api function

Declare Function SHGetSpecialFolderLocation Lib "shell32.dll" (ByVal
hwndOwner As Long, ByVal nFolder As Long, pidl As ITEMIDLIST) As Long

To get the location of the favorites folder.
I modified some code that you can find in the excellent API guide on
http://www.mentalis.org/index2.shtml

Erwin






-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:34 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS

Here is the rest of the basic routines takes a couple of minutes for
10000 favourites I was amazed I only had 100 duplicates.


From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Thu Nov 18 02:23:50 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 09:23:50 +0100
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5538@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

It is without the scripting.

FSO As New FileSystemObject 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren DICK
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 4:13 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS

Hi Marty
I have Windows Script Host Object Model Referenced It still fails on the
line FSO As New Scripting.FileSystemObject The reference file is...
C:\Windows\System32\wshom.ocx
I have it at the top (Welll 3rd at least) of the available references

Can you remove you reference to it and decompile to see if it fails on
that line for you??

Many thanks

Darren

 

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Sent: Thursday, 18 November 2004 1:51 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS

Reference for scripting filesystem object Wshom.ocx Windows Script Host
Model generically known as WSH

You should be getting Http Url printed out with asterix in debug window
if it is working, before it is placed in the memo field, maybe a typo
name error in table or code

The code to test validity of url could be something like this with
request status being returned as 404 or 500 for invalid just like http
error codes; 200 for normal or good

The response Debug.Print HttpReq.StatusText will give you a better
explanation.

You should have some version of XML installed if using IE 6.0

'?testurlxml("http://www.microsoft.com")
Function testurlxml(strURL As String) As String
  Dim HttpReq As Object
  Set HttpReq = CreateObject("MSXML2.XMLHTTP")
  HttpReq.Open "GET", strURL, False
  HttpReq.send
  'Debug.Print HttpReq.responseText 'this is returned html string
  Debug.Print HttpReq.Status
  Debug.Print HttpReq.StatusText
  testurlxml = HttpReq.Status '200 normal End Function

You can also verify legality of url string Private Declare Function
PathIsURL Lib "shlwapi.dll" _
   Alias "PathIsURLA" _
  (ByVal pszPath As String) As Long



Private Function IsPathAURL(ByVal sPath As String) As Boolean

  'Tests a given string to determine if it
  'conforms to a valid URL format. Returns
  'True if sPath has a valid URL format,
  'or False otherwise.

  'This function does not verify that the
  'path points to an existing site, only
  'that it has a valid URL format.

   IsPathAURL = PathIsURL(sPath) = 1

End Function

Darren DICK wrote:

>Hi Marty
>Thanks for the reply
>Couple of Q's though :-))
>
>I can't compile past the...
>
>Dim FSO  as New Scripting.FileSystemObject
>
>What do I need to ref to get this to work?
>
>I tried alternative of....
>
>Set fso = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
>
>and managed to get it to compile and the code 'seemed' to work. In that

>it filled the temp table with what looked to be correct values - but 
>Dunno if this is the same
>
>The Public Function GetHTTPfromURL didn't seem to populate the HTTP 
>Column the temp table
>
>Once I do have all the relevant information in the table - how do I 
>actually tell if The link is live (or have I missed it in the code)
>
>Many thanks
>
>Darren
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
>MartyConnelly
>Sent: Thursday, 18 November 2004 7:11 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>
>I have some really rough code written for Win 95, let me see if I can 
>upgraded it but just grab all the ".url"  files in the sub directories 
>below that contain your favourites in win xp or win 2000 C:\Documents 
>and Settings\usename\Favorites then pass your .url filename to this 
>routine to drag out the http address Then pass http url string to 
>xmlhttp or winhttp this will return a 404 if not valid or 500 if server
gone etc.
>
>Public Function GetHTTPfromURL(FileNaam As String) As String Dim FSO As

>New Scripting.FileSystemObject Dim oFile As file Dim oText As 
>TextStream Dim strLine As String
>
>'grab the folder already so just get FileName 'Set oFolder =
>FSO.GetFolder(Path) Set oFile = FSO.GetFile(FileNaam)
>      Set oText = oFile.OpenAsTextStream
>      Do
>         strLine = oText.ReadLine 'contains [InternetShortcut]
>      Loop Until strLine = "[InternetShortcut]"
>      strLine = oText.ReadLine 'should contains URL=
>      oText.Close
>     
>   ' Open "C:\Windows\Favorites\" & Text1.Text & ".url" For Binary 
>Access Write As #1 ' Save the file.
>   'Open FileNaam For Binary Access Read As #1 ' Read the file.
>   ' Put #1, , "[InternetShortcut]" & vbNewLine & "URL=" & Text1.Text
>   'Get #1, , VarBuf
>   Debug.Print "**" & strLine & "**"
>   ' Close #1
>   ' MsgBox "URL sucessfully added to Favorites!", vbInformation
>   GetHTTPfromURL = strLine
>End Function
>
>Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Seeing this, I wunder if there is someone who has some code (and wants

>>to share it) to check all hyperlinks in the favorites of IE to see if 
>>the page/website still exists?
>>
>>Beeing on the internet for probably about 10 years now got me a lot of

>>favorites that are aged and no longer exists...
>>
>>I like to clean up (sometimes).
>>
>>Erwin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav 
>>Brock
>>Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:36 AM
>>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>>Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>>
>>Hi Darren
>>
>>We use these functions:
>>
>><code module>
>>
>>Private Declare Function URLDownloadToFile Lib "urlmon" Alias 
>>"URLDownloadToFileA" ( _  ByVal pCaller As Long, _  ByVal szURL As 
>>String, _  ByVal szFileName As String, _  ByVal dwReserved As Long, _ 
>>ByVal lpfnCB As Long) _  As Long
>>
>>Public Function IsURL(ByVal strURL As String) As Boolean
>>
>>' Usage: Check if URL strURL is alive and reachable.
>>'   booURL = IsURL("http://www.ibm.com")
>>'   booURL = IsURL("ftp://ftp.novell.com")
>>'
>>' Note: Protocol header like "http://" must be provided.
>>'
>>' 2001-12-09. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.
>>
>> ' File found at most URLs.
>> Const cstrFileIndex As String = "index.htm"
>>
>> IsURL = (URLDownloadToFile(0, strURL, cstrFileIndex, 0, 0) = 0)
>> 
>>End Function
>>
>></code module>
>>
>>If your URLs contains html document name you will have to modify the 
>>code to use that and not append index.html.
>>
>>/gustav
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>>>d.dick at uws.edu.au 17-11-2004 05:03:08 >>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>I have an educational client who has a CD full of Education URL's 
>>(Zillion's of 'em) Occasionally someone has to test to see if the 
>>links are broken or not (Manually <yuk>)
>>
>>I thought this would be a perfect application for Access Set up a 
>>table of URLs and loop through 'em and return TRUE or FALSE
>>
>>So...Is there a way I can type in
>>say...http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
>>and return "true" if the site exists or "false" if the site does not 
>>exist.
>>
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>>
>>    
>>
>
>--
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>Victoria, B.C.
>Canada
>
>
>
>  
>

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov 18 03:42:06 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:42:06 +0100
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
Message-ID: <s19c7c97.026@cactus.dk>

Hi Darren
 
Not quite sure what you are doing. It will return one result only ...
index.htm is chosen as any site has this page. By second thought,
index.html is possible too, but I don't know (do we have a web guru
present?) - perhaps the function should be expanded to check for any of
these two files?
 
/gustav

>>> d.dick at uws.edu.au 18-11-2004 01:58:27 >>>

Hi Gustav
Many thanks
I'm not sure how to use the code though :-(( I get odd results

When I put isUrl ("http://www.ibm.com") behind a button on a form
and put debug.print IsURL at the end of Public Function IsURL
I get "true"
If I put msgbox IsYrl at the end of Public Function IsURL
I get false
??
Dunno what it all means

http://www.ibm.com is a valid and live website
How do it know if there will be an index.htm file at the other end?
And how come I get differeing results with MSGBOX and Debug.print?

Obviously doing something wrong

Many thanks in advance

Darren



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav
Brock
Sent: Wednesday, 17 November 2004 8:36 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS

Hi Darren

We use these functions:

<code module>

Private Declare Function URLDownloadToFile Lib "urlmon" Alias
"URLDownloadToFileA" ( _
  ByVal pCaller As Long, _
  ByVal szURL As String, _
  ByVal szFileName As String, _
  ByVal dwReserved As Long, _
  ByVal lpfnCB As Long) _
  As Long

Public Function IsURL(ByVal strURL As String) As Boolean

' Usage: Check if URL strURL is alive and reachable.
'   booURL = IsURL("http://www.ibm.com")
'   booURL = IsURL("ftp://ftp.novell.com")
'
' Note: Protocol header like "http://" must be provided.
'
' 2001-12-09. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.

  ' File found at most URLs.
  Const cstrFileIndex As String = "index.htm"

  IsURL = (URLDownloadToFile(0, strURL, cstrFileIndex, 0, 0) = 0)
  
End Function

</code module>

If your URLs contains html document name you will have to modify the
code to
use that and not append index.html.

/gustav

>>> d.dick at uws.edu.au 17-11-2004 05:03:08 >>>

I have an educational client who has a CD full of Education URL's
(Zillion's
of 'em) Occasionally someone has to test to see if the links are broken
or
not (Manually <yuk>)

I thought this would be a perfect application for Access Set up a table
of
URLs and loop through 'em and return TRUE or FALSE

So...Is there a way I can type in
say...http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
and return "true" if the site exists or "false" if the site does not
exist.



From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Nov 18 03:09:56 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:09:56 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?
Message-ID: <20041118100955.0151024C988@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Morning all
I've a continuous screen which needs to list two types of order in date
sequence. These are held on separate tables. No problem, a UNION query does
the job fine. However the user has to tick an order to say it's despatched,
and then the screen needs to show that information, but the recordset is not
updatable. Presumably this applies to all UNION queries does it? Does anyone
have a way round this or do I have to go to extracting to a temp table and
all that jazz?

By the way it's not practical to upodate the underlying tables and requery
to display the depatch info because there's a lot of data on screen and
requerying takes too long.

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov 18 04:58:03 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:58:03 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?
Message-ID: <s19c8e67.028@cactus.dk>

Hi Andy
 
No, unions are read-only. If you can't go the update-behind-requery
route, I guess you are left with the temp table.
 
/gustav

>>> andy at minstersystems.co.uk 18-11-2004 10:09:56 >>>

Morning all
I've a continuous screen which needs to list two types of order in
date
sequence. These are held on separate tables. No problem, a UNION query
does
the job fine. However the user has to tick an order to say it's
despatched,
and then the screen needs to show that information, but the recordset
is not
updatable. Presumably this applies to all UNION queries does it? Does
anyone
have a way round this or do I have to go to extracting to a temp table
and
all that jazz?

By the way it's not practical to upodate the underlying tables and
requery
to display the depatch info because there's a lot of data on screen
and
requerying takes too long.

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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Thu Nov 18 05:25:04 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 06:25:04 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C415@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

1.  The form is based on a non-updateable record source.
2.  The form, in the properties box, has allow additions set to no.
3.  The user does not have permissions to create, edit, update, etc on
table in SQL.
4.  It is just a bad day.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 11:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.


Does the book on the tread mill say way a wizard button will not let you
go
to a new record


JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 7:56 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.

We all need a jolt sometimes.  I use Diet Pepsi or chocolate covered
coffee
beans.  And now of course I'm starting walking on a treadmill.  8-0

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:40 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.


Thanks for unmelting my mind  John

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 6:07 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.

File/get external data/link table

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 8:57 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Make front end see new table in back end.


Inherited database problem.

 

OK Stop laughing at me.

At least the original programmer is still there.

 

I added a table to the BE. I cant or can't remember how to make the FE
see
the new table to do forms and stuff.

 

Thanks

 

 

Joe Hecht

jmhla at earthlink.net

28g

 

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From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Thu Nov 18 05:26:29 2004
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:26:29 -0000
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C491@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>


Gustav

I'm not a guru but the "home page" for a website could be any of the
following list:

"index", "default"

with the extensions htm, html, shtm, shtml, cfm, asp, php and so on

I'm sure there are others!

HTH

Chris Foote

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk]
> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 9:42 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
> 
> 
> Hi Darren
>  
> Not quite sure what you are doing. It will return one result only ...
> index.htm is chosen as any site has this page. By second thought,
> index.html is possible too, but I don't know (do we have a web guru
> present?) - perhaps the function should be expanded to check 
> for any of
> these two files?
>  
> /gustav
> 


From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Thu Nov 18 05:49:52 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 06:49:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] New Record wizard button fails
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C418@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

1.  The form is based on a non-updateable record source.
2.  The form, in the properties box, has allow additions set to no.
3.  The user does not have permissions to create, edit, update, etc on
table in SQL.
4.  It is just a bad day.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 1:04 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] New Record wizard button fails


On click it says I cant go to that record

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net 

 



From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Nov 18 04:50:12 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:50:12 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?
Message-ID: <20041118115010.AB95725D353@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Feared that might be the case. Ah well, always worth asking the list cos if
there's a way someone here will know it. Thanks for the response Gustav.
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<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?
Date: 18/11/04 10:59

>
> Hi Andy
>
> No, unions are read-only. If you can't go the update-behind-requery
> route, I guess you are left with the temp table.
>
> /gustav
>
> &gt;&gt;&gt; andy at minstersystems.co.uk 18-11-2004 10:09:56 &gt;&gt;&gt;
>
> Morning all
> I've a continuous screen which needs to list two types of order in
> date
> sequence. These are held on separate tables. No problem, a UNION query
> does
> the job fine. However the user has to tick an order to say it's
> despatched,
> and then the screen needs to show that information, but the recordset
> is not
> updatable. Presumably this applies to all UNION queries does it? Does
> anyone
> have a way round this or do I have to go to extracting to a temp table
> and
> all that jazz?
>
> By the way it's not practical to upodate the underlying tables and
> requery
> to display the depatch info because there's a lot of data on screen
> and
> requerying takes too long.
>
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Nov 18 07:09:33 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 08:09:33 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB9EA@ADGSERVER>

Hi all,

I have a report with several sub reports on it.  I had to modify a sub
report yesterday so that if a certain condition was met, I needed to make
the text in 2 fields bold.  The detail print event is where I was changing
it at.  In a non sub report, I just use the fontbold property.  Well, in the
case of the sub report, I could not set this value (or any normal value)
programmatically.  Intellisense would not show me what I wanted.  I ended up
using reports!MainReport!Subreport!control to set the fontbold property.

My question is, is that the proper way to handle this?  Or is there
something that I am not seeing?

Thanks,
Bobby

From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Nov 18 07:29:27 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 23:29:27 +1000
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
In-Reply-To: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C491@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>
Message-ID: <419D3057.18490.2206AC40@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 18 Nov 2004 at 11:26, Foote, Chris wrote:

> 
> Gustav
> 
> I'm not a guru but the "home page" for a website could be any of the
> following list:
> 
> "index", "default"
> 
> with the extensions htm, html, shtm, shtml, cfm, asp, php and so on
> 
> I'm sure there are others!
> 

And if there is no recognisable "home page", I think you will find it shows 
a directory listing.

Basically, the solution is to issue a HTTP "Get" (or preferably a "Head" so 
that you don't pull the full contents back) request and check the status 
code of the response:

RFC 2068:
<quote>
6 Response

   After receiving and interpreting a request message, a server responds
   with an HTTP response message.

       Response      = Status-Line               ; Section 6.1
                       *( general-header         ; Section 4.5
                        | response-header        ; Section 6.2
                        | entity-header )        ; Section 7.1
                       CRLF
                       [ message-body ]          ; Section 7.2

6.1 Status-Line

   The first line of a Response message is the Status-Line, consisting
   of the protocol version followed by a numeric status code and its
   associated textual phrase, with each element separated by SP
   characters.  No CR or LF is allowed except in the final CRLF
   sequence.



       Status-Line = HTTP-Version SP Status-Code SP Reason-Phrase CRLF

6.1.1 Status Code and Reason Phrase

   The Status-Code element is a 3-digit integer result code of the
   attempt to understand and satisfy the request. These codes are fully
   defined in section 10. The Reason-Phrase is intended to give a short
   textual description of the Status-Code. The Status-Code is intended
   for use by automata and the Reason-Phrase is intended for the human
   user. The client is not required to examine or display the Reason-
   Phrase.

   The first digit of the Status-Code defines the class of response. The
   last two digits do not have any categorization role. There are 5
   values for the first digit:

     o  1xx: Informational - Request received, continuing process

     o  2xx: Success - The action was successfully received, understood,
        and accepted

     o  3xx: Redirection - Further action must be taken in order to
        complete the request

     o  4xx: Client Error - The request contains bad syntax or cannot be
        fulfilled

     o  5xx: Server Error - The server failed to fulfill an apparently
        valid request

</quote>




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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Nov 18 06:31:20 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 13:31:20 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.
Message-ID: <20041118133118.3403B25D6DD@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Bobby
Intellisense doesn't show FontBold but it's still there. Just put
Me!YourControl.FontBold=True in the subreport and it'll work fine.

--
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To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.
Date: 18/11/04 13:09

> Hi all,
>
> I have a report with several sub reports on it.  I had to modify a sub
> report yesterday so that if a certain condition was met, I needed to make
> the text in 2 fields bold.  The detail print event is where I was changing
> it at.  In a non sub report, I just use the fontbold property.  Well, in
the
> case of the sub report, I could not set this value (or any normal value)
> programmatically.  Intellisense would not show me what I wanted.  I ended
up
> using reports!MainReport!Subreport!control to set the fontbold property.
>
> My question is, is that the proper way to handle this?  Or is there
> something that I am not seeing?
>
> Thanks,
> Bobby
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Nov 18 07:49:04 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 08:49:04 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30A2B5B1@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB9EB@ADGSERVER>

Andy,

I did try that.  It gave me an error when ran.  It also would not show me
visible or any of the other items you would normally see for a textbox.

Thanks,
Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:31 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Control reference question.


Bobby
Intellisense doesn't show FontBold but it's still there. Just put
Me!YourControl.FontBold=True in the subreport and it'll work fine.

--
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http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



--------- Original Message --------
From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.
Date: 18/11/04 13:09

> Hi all,
>
> I have a report with several sub reports on it.  I had to modify a sub 
> report yesterday so that if a certain condition was met, I needed to 
> make the text in 2 fields bold.  The detail print event is where I was 
> changing it at.  In a non sub report, I just use the fontbold 
> property.  Well, in
the
> case of the sub report, I could not set this value (or any normal 
> value) programmatically.  Intellisense would not show me what I 
> wanted.  I ended
up
> using reports!MainReport!Subreport!control to set the fontbold 
> property.
>
> My question is, is that the proper way to handle this?  Or is there 
> something that I am not seeing?
>
> Thanks,
> Bobby
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
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From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Thu Nov 18 08:05:45 2004
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 09:05:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB9EB@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAOEJCCIAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

Reports have several properties not shown in intellisense.

Visible is one.  I use it all the time though.  There are several I use not
shown, but work perfectly.

I can't give you a solution but I can ensure you that you aren't nuts.

If the condition to check is on the main form I reference the subform using
me.subreportname.controlname.property = whatever

Does anyone have an explanation for the lack of properties showing in
intellisense?  Is it corrected in versions after 2000?

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 8:49 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.


Andy,

I did try that.  It gave me an error when ran.  It also would not show me
visible or any of the other items you would normally see for a textbox.

Thanks,
Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:31 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Control reference question.


Bobby
Intellisense doesn't show FontBold but it's still there. Just put
Me!YourControl.FontBold=True in the subreport and it'll work fine.

--
Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



--------- Original Message --------
From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.
Date: 18/11/04 13:09

> Hi all,
>
> I have a report with several sub reports on it.  I had to modify a sub
> report yesterday so that if a certain condition was met, I needed to
> make the text in 2 fields bold.  The detail print event is where I was
> changing it at.  In a non sub report, I just use the fontbold
> property.  Well, in
the
> case of the sub report, I could not set this value (or any normal
> value) programmatically.  Intellisense would not show me what I
> wanted.  I ended
up
> using reports!MainReport!Subreport!control to set the fontbold
> property.
>
> My question is, is that the proper way to handle this?  Or is there
> something that I am not seeing?
>
> Thanks,
> Bobby
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Nov 18 08:24:26 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 09:24:26 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.
In-Reply-To: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAOEJCCIAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>
Message-ID: <002201c4cd7a$5000cb30$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

My take was always that the ones that are not visible are "undocumented" -
perhaps lingering bugs make their usage a potential maintenance issue.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Reuben Cummings
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 9:06 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.


Reports have several properties not shown in intellisense.

Visible is one.  I use it all the time though.  There are several I use not
shown, but work perfectly.

I can't give you a solution but I can ensure you that you aren't nuts.

If the condition to check is on the main form I reference the subform using
me.subreportname.controlname.property = whatever

Does anyone have an explanation for the lack of properties showing in
intellisense?  Is it corrected in versions after 2000?

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 8:49 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.


Andy,

I did try that.  It gave me an error when ran.  It also would not show me
visible or any of the other items you would normally see for a textbox.

Thanks,
Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:31 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Control reference question.


Bobby
Intellisense doesn't show FontBold but it's still there. Just put
Me!YourControl.FontBold=True in the subreport and it'll work fine.

--
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http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



--------- Original Message --------
From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.
Date: 18/11/04 13:09

> Hi all,
>
> I have a report with several sub reports on it.  I had to modify a sub 
> report yesterday so that if a certain condition was met, I needed to 
> make the text in 2 fields bold.  The detail print event is where I was 
> changing it at.  In a non sub report, I just use the fontbold 
> property.  Well, in
the
> case of the sub report, I could not set this value (or any normal
> value) programmatically.  Intellisense would not show me what I 
> wanted.  I ended
up
> using reports!MainReport!Subreport!control to set the fontbold 
> property.
>
> My question is, is that the proper way to handle this?  Or is there 
> something that I am not seeing?
>
> Thanks,
> Bobby
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Nov 18 08:29:09 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 09:29:09 -0500
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F3397C@nprdex02.nns.com>

Darren,

When doing maintenance on my departmental website, I use Xenu's Link Sleuth.
I am fairly certain that it is still free to download.
http://home.snafu.de/tilman/xenulink.html  Not only can it verify links
within a website, but for you purposes I believe it will verify a simple
text listing of URLs.

It is extremely fast.


Mark



>>> d.dick at uws.edu.au 17-11-2004 05:03:08 >>>

I have an educational client who has a CD full of Education URL's
(Zillion's of 'em)
Occasionally someone has to test to see if the links are broken or not
(Manually <yuk>)

I thought this would be a perfect application for Access
Set up a table of URLs and loop through 'em and return TRUE or FALSE

So...Is there a way I can type in
say...http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
and return "true" if the site exists or "false" if the site does not
exist.
 


From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Nov 18 08:09:02 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 15:09:02 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.
Message-ID: <20041118150859.4F9052567AC@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Well I don't understand that. just tried it on a report and it worked fine.
Do you want to post the whole line of code that errored?

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--------- Original Message --------
From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
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To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.
Date: 18/11/04 13:49

>
> Andy,
>
> I did try that.  It gave me an error when ran.  It also would not show me
> visible or any of the other items you would normally see for a textbox.
>
> Thanks,
> Bobby
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:31 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Control reference question.
>
>
> Bobby
> Intellisense doesn't show FontBold but it's still there. Just put
> Me!YourControl.FontBold=True in the subreport and it'll work fine.
>
> --
> Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>
>
>
> --------- Original Message --------
> From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> &lt;accessd at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> &lt;accessd at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.
> Date: 18/11/04 13:09
>
> &gt; Hi all,
> &gt;
> &gt; I have a report with several sub reports on it.  I had to modify a
sub
> &gt; report yesterday so that if a certain condition was met, I needed to
> &gt; make the text in 2 fields bold.  The detail print event is where I
was
> &gt; changing it at.  In a non sub report, I just use the fontbold
> &gt; property.  Well, in
> the
> &gt; case of the sub report, I could not set this value (or any normal
> &gt; value) programmatically.  Intellisense would not show me what I
> &gt; wanted.  I ended
> up
> &gt; using reports!MainReport!Subreport!control to set the fontbold
> &gt; property.
> &gt;
> &gt; My question is, is that the proper way to handle this?  Or is there
> &gt; something that I am not seeing?
> &gt;
> &gt; Thanks,
> &gt; Bobby
> &gt;
> &gt;
> &gt;
> &gt;
> &gt;
> &gt;
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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Thu Nov 18 09:09:04 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 09:09:04 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Test Voracity of URLS
In-Reply-To: <200411181429.iAIEThL10841@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041118090652.012abc40@pop3.highstream.net>

Actually, it can be anything that you define for the site.
Index is common, but so is Default.  And, the extension is
the same way; htm, html, aspx, asp, etc.

When you set the starting page for a web site, it can be
anything and have any extension.

At 08:29 AM 11/18/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:42:06 +0100
>From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
>Subject: RE: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <s19c7c97.026 at cactus.dk>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
>Hi Darren
>
>Not quite sure what you are doing. It will return one result only ...
>index.htm is chosen as any site has this page. By second thought,
>index.html is possible too, but I don't know (do we have a web guru
>present?) - perhaps the function should be expanded to check for any of
>these two files?
>
>/gustav
>
> >>> d.dick at uws.edu.au 18-11-2004 01:58:27 >>>
>
>Hi Gustav
>Many thanks
>I'm not sure how to use the code though :-(( I get odd results
>
>When I put isUrl ("http://www.ibm.com") behind a button on a form
>and put debug.print IsURL at the end of Public Function IsURL
>I get "true"
>If I put msgbox IsYrl at the end of Public Function IsURL
>I get false
>??
>Dunno what it all means
>
>http://www.ibm.com is a valid and live website
>How do it know if there will be an index.htm file at the other end?
>And how come I get differeing results with MSGBOX and Debug.print?
>
>Obviously doing something wrong
>
>Many thanks in advance
>
>Darren




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov 18 09:23:26 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 16:23:26 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Test Voracity of URLS
Message-ID: <s19ccc8d.001@cactus.dk>

OK, I realize "my" method (which isn't mine) is far from perfect.
 
While checking thousands of URLs which is not very common for most of
us, checking one or two is realistic. 
So how would a neat IsURL() function look like given the knowledge we
now have?
 
/gustav

>>> rl_stewart at highstream.net 18-11-2004 16:09:04 >>>

Actually, it can be anything that you define for the site.
Index is common, but so is Default.  And, the extension is
the same way; htm, html, aspx, asp, etc.

When you set the starting page for a web site, it can be
anything and have any extension.

At 08:29 AM 11/18/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:42:06 +0100
>From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
>Subject: RE: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <s19c7c97.026 at cactus.dk>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
>Hi Darren
>
>Not quite sure what you are doing. It will return one result only ...
>index.htm is chosen as any site has this page. By second thought,
>index.html is possible too, but I don't know (do we have a web guru
>present?) - perhaps the function should be expanded to check for any
of
>these two files?
>
>/gustav
>
> >>> d.dick at uws.edu.au 18-11-2004 01:58:27 >>>
>
>Hi Gustav
>Many thanks
>I'm not sure how to use the code though :-(( I get odd results
>
>When I put isUrl ("http://www.ibm.com") behind a button on a form
>and put debug.print IsURL at the end of Public Function IsURL
>I get "true"
>If I put msgbox IsYrl at the end of Public Function IsURL
>I get false
>??
>Dunno what it all means
>
>http://www.ibm.com is a valid and live website
>How do it know if there will be an index.htm file at the other end?
>And how come I get differeing results with MSGBOX and Debug.print?
>
>Obviously doing something wrong
>
>Many thanks in advance
>
>Darren



From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Nov 18 09:46:05 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:46:05 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS - Repost
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33980@nprdex02.nns.com>

Darren,

When doing maintenance on my departmental website, I use Xenu's Link Sleuth.
I am fairly certain that it is still free to download.
http://home.snafu.de/tilman/xenulink.html  Not only can it verify links
within a website, but for you purposes I believe it will verify a simple
text listing of URLs.

It is extremely fast.


Mark


From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Nov 18 09:53:24 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:53:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30A2B60A@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB9F1@ADGSERVER>

Now this is really weird.  I played with it for over an hour yesterday and
could not get it to work no matter how I changed it.  I went back in a few
minutes ago and changed the code from:


   With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub
      If txtSetBold <> 0 Then
         !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         Else
            !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
            !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
         End If
      End With

TO 


   With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub
      If txtSetBold <> 0 Then
         txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         Else
            txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
            txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
         End If
      End With

And it now works.  I hate it when Access does this to me.

Thanks all.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 9:09 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.


Well I don't understand that. just tried it on a report and it worked fine.
Do you want to post the whole line of code that errored?

--
Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk




From dwaters at usinternet.com  Thu Nov 18 09:52:19 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 09:52:19 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.
In-Reply-To: <11531066.1100783288953.JavaMail.root@sniper13.securence.com>
Message-ID: <001701c4cd86$9674b840$de1811d8@danwaters>

Bobby,

I believe that the Print event is too late in the sequence of report events.
Try using the section's Format event or the report's Activate event.

You could also try using Conditional Formatting!

Dan Waters
ProMation Systems

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.

Hi all,

I have a report with several sub reports on it.  I had to modify a sub
report yesterday so that if a certain condition was met, I needed to make
the text in 2 fields bold.  The detail print event is where I was changing
it at.  In a non sub report, I just use the fontbold property.  Well, in the
case of the sub report, I could not set this value (or any normal value)
programmatically.  Intellisense would not show me what I wanted.  I ended up
using reports!MainReport!Subreport!control to set the fontbold property.

My question is, is that the proper way to handle this?  Or is there
something that I am not seeing?

Thanks,
Bobby



From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Nov 18 10:05:42 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:05:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30A2B65C@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB9F2@ADGSERVER>

Hey Dan,

>From Access help:

FontBold Property
You can use the FontBold property to specify whether a font appears in a
bold style in the following situations: 

When displaying or printing controls on forms and reports.


When using the Print method on a report. 

It is my understanding (which may be wrong) that the print event should be
used to change the way an existing item looks (bold, background, etc.) and
that format should be used when an item may or may not print (visibility,
etc.) and changing an item could cause the current item to possibly be moved
to the next page or something like that.

Bobby


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 10:52 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.


Bobby,

I believe that the Print event is too late in the sequence of report events.
Try using the section's Format event or the report's Activate event.

You could also try using Conditional Formatting!

Dan Waters
ProMation Systems

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.

Hi all,

I have a report with several sub reports on it.  I had to modify a sub
report yesterday so that if a certain condition was met, I needed to make
the text in 2 fields bold.  The detail print event is where I was changing
it at.  In a non sub report, I just use the fontbold property.  Well, in the
case of the sub report, I could not set this value (or any normal value)
programmatically.  Intellisense would not show me what I wanted.  I ended up
using reports!MainReport!Subreport!control to set the fontbold property.

My question is, is that the proper way to handle this?  Or is there
something that I am not seeing?

Thanks,
Bobby

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov 18 10:09:02 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 17:09:02 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.
Message-ID: <s19cd748.004@cactus.dk>

Hi Bobby
 
Shouldn't it read:
 
   With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub.Report
      If !txtSetBold <> 0 Then
         !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
      Else
         !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
         !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
      End If
   End With

/gustav

>>> bheid at appdevgrp.com 18-11-2004 16:53:24 >>>

Now this is really weird.  I played with it for over an hour yesterday
and
could not get it to work no matter how I changed it.  I went back in a
few
minutes ago and changed the code from:


   With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub
      If txtSetBold <> 0 Then
         !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         Else
            !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
            !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
         End If
      End With

TO 


   With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub
      If txtSetBold <> 0 Then
         txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         Else
            txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
            txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
         End If
      End With

And it now works.  I hate it when Access does this to me.

Thanks all.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 9:09 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.


Well I don't understand that. just tried it on a report and it worked
fine.
Do you want to post the whole line of code that errored?

--
Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Nov 18 10:30:50 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:30:50 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30A2B67C@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB9F3@ADGSERVER>

I dunno, it works as I have it.  I have never used Report on the end like
you have it.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:09 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.


Hi Bobby
 
Shouldn't it read:
 
   With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub.Report
      If !txtSetBold <> 0 Then
         !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
      Else
         !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
         !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
      End If
   End With

/gustav

>>> bheid at appdevgrp.com 18-11-2004 16:53:24 >>>

Now this is really weird.  I played with it for over an hour yesterday and
could not get it to work no matter how I changed it.  I went back in a few
minutes ago and changed the code from:


   With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub
      If txtSetBold <> 0 Then
         !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         Else
            !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
            !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
         End If
      End With

TO 


   With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub
      If txtSetBold <> 0 Then
         txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         Else
            txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
            txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
         End If
      End With

And it now works.  I hate it when Access does this to me.

Thanks all.

Bobby



From Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us  Thu Nov 18 11:05:07 2004
From: Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us (O'Connor, Patricia (OTDA))
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 12:05:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: ODBC against Oracle partitioned db
Message-ID: <B94C79B465542042AB0748EAF37F9AC0A427C0@EXCNYSM0A1AB.nysemail.nyenet>


What is TOAD?

I was wondering whether the newest Oracle ODBC driver would solve it. We
still have the 9.x one.

Thanks
Patti
******************************************************************
*Patricia O'Connor
*Associate Computer Programmer Analyst
*OTDA - BDMA
*(W) mailto:Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us
*(w) mailto:aa1160 at dfa.state.ny.us
******************************************************************
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Robert L. Stewart
> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 02:56 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Re: ODBC against Oracle partitioned db
> 
> As you can see, Access and the ODBC driver has trouble with a 
> partioned table.
> 
> Use Toad or something like it for the type of things you 
> would do in running queries and viewing data.  Since it is 
> written for Oracle, it plays with it better.
> 
> Robert
> 
> At 12:01 PM 11/16/2004 -0600, you wrote:
> >Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 10:28:49 -0500
> >From: "O'Connor, Patricia \(OTDA\)"
> >         <Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us>
> >Subject: [AccessD] ODBC against Oracle partitioned db
> >To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> >         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Message-ID:
> >         
> <B94C79B465542042AB0748EAF37F9AC0A427B1 at EXCNYSM0A1AB.nysemail.nyenet>
> >Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
> >
> >Hi all
> >
> >When I use the Oracle ODBC driver against an ORACLE un-partitioned 
> >table from Access (either passthru or gui), I have not problem. Data 
> >comes back can scroll through 1-30+K records no problem.
> >
> >When I use same driver against an Oracle partitioned table 
> from access, 
> >I get temporary freeze ups when scrolling through records even 
> >scrolling from column 1 to say col 10 on screen. It doesn't 
> matter how 
> >many records in set - scroll down 3-6 records - stop. Sometimes the 
> >stall can be 2-5 minutes.
> >
> >Doesn't matter if it is the only thing running on computer. I do not 
> >have this problem with an unpartioned set.  I waste a good amount of 
> >time waiting for access to let me back in.
> >
> >Has anyone run into this and is there a workaround or 
> setting I need to 
> >change in the driver configuration.  My machine is Win2k, Access2k, 
> >Oracle10
> >
> >Thanks in advance
> >Patti
> 
> 
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From donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com  Thu Nov 18 11:11:37 2004
From: donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com (Mcgillivray, Donald [ITS])
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:11:37 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Need a summary query to return more than one record for a
	member of a group
Message-ID: <988E2AC88CCB54459286C4077DB662F502857E74@PDAWB03C.ad.sprint.com>

Hi, All

I have a table of data, populated by an automated mail insertion system,
containing the following fields:

JobID 
MachineID
OperatorID
PieceID
InsertTime (Date + Time)

The system writes a record for each piece that is inserted by the
system.  Typically, there will be a single operator working a job on a
machine, but on larger jobs an operator's shift may be interrupted by
another operator (relief during breaks, technicians making adjustments,
repairs, etc.)  When these interruptions occur, the interrupter logs in
and any work processed during the interruption is logged under the
interrupter's ID.  Then when the original operator returns, s/he logs in
and subsequent work is logged under that ID.  A summary query grouped on
JobID, MachineID, and OperatorID, with count of PieceID and min and max
of InsertTime gives me a single record for each operator showing piece
count and start and end time.  However, the delta between the min and
max times does not reflect the actual elapsed time for each, since the
original operator's min and max times encompass the period when the
interrupter was logged in as well.  

I know I could loop thru the records incrementing counters and write a
record to a table when a change in operator is detected, but my
preference is to capture elapsed run time for each operator using a
single query.  Anybody know if/how I can return more than one record for
a member of a group in a summary query?

Don McGillivray
Sprint Mailing Services


From kaupca at chevrontexaco.com  Thu Nov 18 11:23:12 2004
From: kaupca at chevrontexaco.com (Kaup, Chester A)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:23:12 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Query of query results problem
Message-ID: <1375769556091B4DAABC159F944CA1BB07A2D9@bocnte2k4.hou150.chevrontexaco.net>

I have a query with no formatting in it that generates numbers with
various numbers of digits after the decimal place. When I run a query
against this query with no number formatting the result in integers (all
decimal precision is gone). What is happening here?

Chester Kaup
Information Management Technician
IT-MidContinent/MidContinent Business Unit
CTN 8-687-7415  
Outside 432-687-7415

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number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 





From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Thu Nov 18 11:23:36 2004
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 12:23:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] WithEvents - Why doesn't my Access like it?
Message-ID: <419CDA98.8050300@torchlake.com>

Hello all you gurus -
Is WithEvents not an acceptable keyword in AccessXP (file format Access 
2000)?  I am playing with code from John Colby's demos, and in my 
module, which is a straight copy of his, the line
"Private WithEvents mtxt As TextBox" is red, which usually means Visual 
Basic doesn't recognize the keywords I've used.  Is there a version 
problem possibly?  My VBA says it is 6.3.8863.  Any clues here would be 
very much appreciated.  It's especially confusing to me, since in John's 
code the keywords remain a nice blue.  What am I missing?
Tina



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov 18 11:37:27 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 18:37:27 +0100
Subject: Svar: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.
Message-ID: <s19cec03.013@cactus.dk>

Hi Bobby
 
What happens if you try?
The use of .Report should be the recommended syntax ...
 
/gustav

>>> bheid at appdevgrp.com 18-11-2004 17:30:50 >>>

I dunno, it works as I have it.  I have never used Report on the end
like
you have it.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav
Brock
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:09 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.


Hi Bobby

Shouldn't it read:

   With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub.Report
      If !txtSetBold <> 0 Then
         !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
      Else
         !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
         !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
      End If
   End With

/gustav

>>> bheid at appdevgrp.com 18-11-2004 16:53:24 >>>

Now this is really weird.  I played with it for over an hour yesterday
and
could not get it to work no matter how I changed it.  I went back in a
few
minutes ago and changed the code from:


   With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub
      If txtSetBold <> 0 Then
         !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         Else
            !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
            !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
         End If
      End With

TO 


   With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub
      If txtSetBold <> 0 Then
         txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         Else
            txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
            txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
         End If
      End With

And it now works.  I hate it when Access does this to me.

Thanks all.

Bobby



From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Thu Nov 18 11:43:29 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 12:43:29 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query of query results problem
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C423@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

Isn't there something about a calculation inheriting the format of the,
what I think of, the simplest format?  What if you set the formatting in
the second query in the query itself to like a double and specify the
number of decimals?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
A
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:23 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Query of query results problem


I have a query with no formatting in it that generates numbers with
various numbers of digits after the decimal place. When I run a query
against this query with no number formatting the result in integers (all
decimal precision is gone). What is happening here?

Chester Kaup
Information Management Technician
IT-MidContinent/MidContinent Business Unit
CTN 8-687-7415  
Outside 432-687-7415

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number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 



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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Nov 18 11:48:05 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 12:48:05 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] WithEvents - Why doesn't my Access like it?
In-Reply-To: <419CDA98.8050300@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <003c01c4cd96$c24421d0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

You copied and pasted from my demo and it is not compiling?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris
Fields
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:24 PM
To: DatabaseAdvisors-Access
Subject: [AccessD] WithEvents - Why doesn't my Access like it?


Hello all you gurus -
Is WithEvents not an acceptable keyword in AccessXP (file format Access 
2000)?  I am playing with code from John Colby's demos, and in my 
module, which is a straight copy of his, the line
"Private WithEvents mtxt As TextBox" is red, which usually means Visual 
Basic doesn't recognize the keywords I've used.  Is there a version 
problem possibly?  My VBA says it is 6.3.8863.  Any clues here would be 
very much appreciated.  It's especially confusing to me, since in John's 
code the keywords remain a nice blue.  What am I missing?
Tina

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From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Thu Nov 18 11:57:01 2004
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 12:57:01 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] WithEvents - Why doesn't my Access like it?
References: <003c01c4cd96$c24421d0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <419CE26D.9090909@torchlake.com>

Okay, I just figured it out.  What I failed to do was make sure I was 
creating a class module!  Arrgh!  I'm banging my head against the wall. 
 Thanks for responding.  It's been a long few days.
Tina

John W. Colby wrote:

>You copied and pasted from my demo and it is not compiling?
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com 
>
>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris
>Fields
>Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:24 PM
>To: DatabaseAdvisors-Access
>Subject: [AccessD] WithEvents - Why doesn't my Access like it?
>
>
>Hello all you gurus -
>Is WithEvents not an acceptable keyword in AccessXP (file format Access 
>2000)?  I am playing with code from John Colby's demos, and in my 
>module, which is a straight copy of his, the line
>"Private WithEvents mtxt As TextBox" is red, which usually means Visual 
>Basic doesn't recognize the keywords I've used.  Is there a version 
>problem possibly?  My VBA says it is 6.3.8863.  Any clues here would be 
>very much appreciated.  It's especially confusing to me, since in John's 
>code the keywords remain a nice blue.  What am I missing?
>Tina
>
>  
>




From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Nov 18 12:03:34 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:03:34 -0800
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
In-Reply-To: <s19c7c97.026@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIOEFDCIAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

General comment

Any file extension and file name can be setup as default initial web site
code. Html (variations htm, htlms...), and is just one extension type but
'pl' (perl), 'asp and aspx' asp/net, 'php', 'jsp', 'xml' to name a few, are
just as valid and standard. As for names, anything goes. The most common are
of course 'index', but 'homepage' is a standard when using MS FP. It is all
set up on your IIS or Apache, in the properties per hosted web site. Most
sites are fairly standard but I have seen some odd variations over the
years. In a nutshell, everything goes.

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 1:42 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS


Hi Darren

Not quite sure what you are doing. It will return one result only ...
index.htm is chosen as any site has this page. By second thought,
index.html is possible too, but I don't know (do we have a web guru
present?) - perhaps the function should be expanded to check for any of
these two files?

/gustav

>>> d.dick at uws.edu.au 18-11-2004 01:58:27 >>>

Hi Gustav
Many thanks
I'm not sure how to use the code though :-(( I get odd results

When I put isUrl ("http://www.ibm.com") behind a button on a form
and put debug.print IsURL at the end of Public Function IsURL
I get "true"
If I put msgbox IsYrl at the end of Public Function IsURL
I get false
??
Dunno what it all means

http://www.ibm.com is a valid and live website
How do it know if there will be an index.htm file at the other end?
And how come I get differeing results with MSGBOX and Debug.print?

Obviously doing something wrong

Many thanks in advance

Darren



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav
Brock
Sent: Wednesday, 17 November 2004 8:36 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS

Hi Darren

We use these functions:

<code module>

Private Declare Function URLDownloadToFile Lib "urlmon" Alias
"URLDownloadToFileA" ( _
  ByVal pCaller As Long, _
  ByVal szURL As String, _
  ByVal szFileName As String, _
  ByVal dwReserved As Long, _
  ByVal lpfnCB As Long) _
  As Long

Public Function IsURL(ByVal strURL As String) As Boolean

' Usage: Check if URL strURL is alive and reachable.
'   booURL = IsURL("http://www.ibm.com")
'   booURL = IsURL("ftp://ftp.novell.com")
'
' Note: Protocol header like "http://" must be provided.
'
' 2001-12-09. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.

  ' File found at most URLs.
  Const cstrFileIndex As String = "index.htm"

  IsURL = (URLDownloadToFile(0, strURL, cstrFileIndex, 0, 0) = 0)

End Function

</code module>

If your URLs contains html document name you will have to modify the
code to
use that and not append index.html.

/gustav

>>> d.dick at uws.edu.au 17-11-2004 05:03:08 >>>

I have an educational client who has a CD full of Education URL's
(Zillion's
of 'em) Occasionally someone has to test to see if the links are broken
or
not (Manually <yuk>)

I thought this would be a perfect application for Access Set up a table
of
URLs and loop through 'em and return TRUE or FALSE

So...Is there a way I can type in
say...http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
and return "true" if the site exists or "false" if the site does not
exist.

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov 18 12:06:50 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 19:06:50 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Need a summary query to return more than one
	record for amember of a group
Message-ID: <s19cf2f1.014@cactus.dk>

Hi Don
 
You need to, for each record, look up the date/time of the next entry
and calculate the minutes:
 
  lngMinutes: DateDiff("n", InsertTime, (Select Top 1 T.InsertTime From
tblTable As T Where T.InsertTime > tblTable.InsertTime Order By
T.InsertTime Asc)
 
The sum the minutes by grouping in another query where you use the
above as source.
 
/gustav

>>> donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com 18-11-2004 18:11:37 >>>

Hi, All

I have a table of data, populated by an automated mail insertion
system,
containing the following fields:

JobID 
MachineID
OperatorID
PieceID
InsertTime (Date + Time)

The system writes a record for each piece that is inserted by the
system.  Typically, there will be a single operator working a job on a
machine, but on larger jobs an operator's shift may be interrupted by
another operator (relief during breaks, technicians making
adjustments,
repairs, etc.)  When these interruptions occur, the interrupter logs
in
and any work processed during the interruption is logged under the
interrupter's ID.  Then when the original operator returns, s/he logs
in
and subsequent work is logged under that ID.  A summary query grouped
on
JobID, MachineID, and OperatorID, with count of PieceID and min and
max
of InsertTime gives me a single record for each operator showing piece
count and start and end time.  However, the delta between the min and
max times does not reflect the actual elapsed time for each, since the
original operator's min and max times encompass the period when the
interrupter was logged in as well.  

I know I could loop thru the records incrementing counters and write a
record to a table when a change in operator is detected, but my
preference is to capture elapsed run time for each operator using a
single query.  Anybody know if/how I can return more than one record
for
a member of a group in a summary query?

Don McGillivray
Sprint Mailing Services



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Nov 18 12:12:49 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 13:12:49 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] WithEvents - Why doesn't my Access like it?
In-Reply-To: <419CE26D.9090909@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <003e01c4cd9a$365ed9e0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

LOL>  Yea, it should tell you that syntax is not valid outside of a class or
something similar.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris
Fields
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:57 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] WithEvents - Why doesn't my Access like it?


Okay, I just figured it out.  What I failed to do was make sure I was 
creating a class module!  Arrgh!  I'm banging my head against the wall. 
 Thanks for responding.  It's been a long few days.
Tina

John W. Colby wrote:

>You copied and pasted from my demo and it is not compiling?
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris 
>Fields
>Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:24 PM
>To: DatabaseAdvisors-Access
>Subject: [AccessD] WithEvents - Why doesn't my Access like it?
>
>
>Hello all you gurus -
>Is WithEvents not an acceptable keyword in AccessXP (file format Access
>2000)?  I am playing with code from John Colby's demos, and in my 
>module, which is a straight copy of his, the line
>"Private WithEvents mtxt As TextBox" is red, which usually means Visual 
>Basic doesn't recognize the keywords I've used.  Is there a version 
>problem possibly?  My VBA says it is 6.3.8863.  Any clues here would be 
>very much appreciated.  It's especially confusing to me, since in John's 
>code the keywords remain a nice blue.  What am I missing?
>Tina
>
>  
>


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Nov 18 12:13:43 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:13:43 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB9F1@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIGEFECIAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

What is standard is that there is none.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:53 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.


Now this is really weird.  I played with it for over an hour yesterday and
could not get it to work no matter how I changed it.  I went back in a few
minutes ago and changed the code from:


   With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub
      If txtSetBold <> 0 Then
         !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         Else
            !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
            !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
         End If
      End With

TO 


   With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub
      If txtSetBold <> 0 Then
         txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         Else
            txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
            txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
         End If
      End With

And it now works.  I hate it when Access does this to me.

Thanks all.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 9:09 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.


Well I don't understand that. just tried it on a report and it worked fine.
Do you want to post the whole line of code that errored?

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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Nov 18 12:26:38 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 13:26:38 -0500
Subject: Svar: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30A2B702@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB9F7@ADGSERVER>

Gustav,

Yes, that works also.  Why would I need to put .Report on the end?  It
already knows it is in the Reports collection?  

I have never seen anything like that when referencing something on a form
either?  Is there a .Form for the forms?

Also, what is Svar in the subject?

Thanks,
Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:37 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Svar: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.


Hi Bobby
 
What happens if you try?
The use of .Report should be the recommended syntax ...
 
/gustav

>>> bheid at appdevgrp.com 18-11-2004 17:30:50 >>>

I dunno, it works as I have it.  I have never used Report on the end like
you have it.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:09 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.


Hi Bobby

Shouldn't it read:

   With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub.Report
      If !txtSetBold <> 0 Then
         !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
      Else
         !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
         !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
      End If
   End With

/gustav

>>> bheid at appdevgrp.com 18-11-2004 16:53:24 >>>

Now this is really weird.  I played with it for over an hour yesterday and
could not get it to work no matter how I changed it.  I went back in a few
minutes ago and changed the code from:


   With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub
      If txtSetBold <> 0 Then
         !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         Else
            !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
            !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
         End If
      End With

TO 


   With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub
      If txtSetBold <> 0 Then
         txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         Else
            txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
            txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
         End If
      End With

And it now works.  I hate it when Access does this to me.

Thanks all.

Bobby



From lists at theopg.com  Thu Nov 18 12:28:41 2004
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 18:28:41 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Accessing data in secured mdb from another secured mdb on
	a different workgroup
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20041116135414.01419f28@pop3.highstream.net>
Message-ID: <000f01c4cd9c$6f150fa0$0e0b6bd5@netboxxp>

Hello All (I sent his yesterday but it didn';t seem to get through...)

Using AXP on WinXP

I have two databases secured on different workgroups and accessed from
different front ends. I need to be able to import data from one into the
other but am having problems as they are secured on different mdw's. I
could merge the two mdw's but that would be a bit of a pain.

Anyone know a simple solution?

Thanks in advance

Mark



From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Thu Nov 18 12:47:09 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 12:47:09 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Control reference question.
In-Reply-To: <200411181801.iAII1CL28773@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041118124620.047d7308@pop3.highstream.net>

If you are working with a subReport, the Gustav is correct.
Reports and forms are the same in referencing controls in a
sub.

Robert

At 12:01 PM 11/18/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:30:50 -0500
>From: "Bobby Heid" <bheid at appdevgrp.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB9F3 at ADGSERVER>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="US-ASCII"
>
>I dunno, it works as I have it.  I have never used Report on the end like
>you have it.
>
>Bobby
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:09 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.
>
>
>Hi Bobby
>
>Shouldn't it read:
>
>    With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub.Report
>       If !txtSetBold <> 0 Then
>          !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
>          !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
>       Else
>          !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
>          !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
>       End If
>    End With
>
>/gustav




From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Thu Nov 18 12:48:44 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 12:48:44 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Re: ODBC against Oracle partitioned db
In-Reply-To: <200411181801.iAII1CL28773@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041118124816.013f0c68@pop3.highstream.net>

Take a look at http://www.quest.com/toad/

Robert

At 12:01 PM 11/18/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 12:05:07 -0500
>From: "O'Connor, Patricia \(OTDA\)"
>         <Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: ODBC against Oracle partitioned db
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID:
>         <B94C79B465542042AB0748EAF37F9AC0A427C0 at EXCNYSM0A1AB.nysemail.nyenet>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>
>What is TOAD?
>
>I was wondering whether the newest Oracle ODBC driver would solve it. We
>still have the 9.x one.
>
>Thanks
>Patti




From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Thu Nov 18 12:49:57 2004
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 13:49:57 -0500
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
References: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIOEFDCIAA.accessd@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <419CEED5.3000105@torchlake.com>

Okay, I can't resist any longer - didn't anybody else laugh about this 
subject line?  How hungry does a URL have to be before it becomes 
voracious and we have to test its voracity?
LOL
Tina

Jim Lawrence (AccessD) wrote:

>General comment
>
>Any file extension and file name can be setup as default initial web site
>code. Html (variations htm, htlms...), and is just one extension type but
>'pl' (perl), 'asp and aspx' asp/net, 'php', 'jsp', 'xml' to name a few, are
>just as valid and standard. As for names, anything goes. The most common are
>of course 'index', but 'homepage' is a standard when using MS FP. It is all
>set up on your IIS or Apache, in the properties per hosted web site. Most
>sites are fairly standard but I have seen some odd variations over the
>years. In a nutshell, everything goes.
>
>HTH
>Jim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 1:42 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>
>
>Hi Darren
>
>Not quite sure what you are doing. It will return one result only ...
>index.htm is chosen as any site has this page. By second thought,
>index.html is possible too, but I don't know (do we have a web guru
>present?) - perhaps the function should be expanded to check for any of
>these two files?
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>d.dick at uws.edu.au 18-11-2004 01:58:27 >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>
>Hi Gustav
>Many thanks
>I'm not sure how to use the code though :-(( I get odd results
>
>When I put isUrl ("http://www.ibm.com") behind a button on a form
>and put debug.print IsURL at the end of Public Function IsURL
>I get "true"
>If I put msgbox IsYrl at the end of Public Function IsURL
>I get false
>??
>Dunno what it all means
>
>http://www.ibm.com is a valid and live website
>How do it know if there will be an index.htm file at the other end?
>And how come I get differeing results with MSGBOX and Debug.print?
>
>Obviously doing something wrong
>
>Many thanks in advance
>
>Darren
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav
>Brock
>Sent: Wednesday, 17 November 2004 8:36 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>
>Hi Darren
>
>We use these functions:
>
><code module>
>
>Private Declare Function URLDownloadToFile Lib "urlmon" Alias
>"URLDownloadToFileA" ( _
>  ByVal pCaller As Long, _
>  ByVal szURL As String, _
>  ByVal szFileName As String, _
>  ByVal dwReserved As Long, _
>  ByVal lpfnCB As Long) _
>  As Long
>
>Public Function IsURL(ByVal strURL As String) As Boolean
>
>' Usage: Check if URL strURL is alive and reachable.
>'   booURL = IsURL("http://www.ibm.com")
>'   booURL = IsURL("ftp://ftp.novell.com")
>'
>' Note: Protocol header like "http://" must be provided.
>'
>' 2001-12-09. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.
>
>  ' File found at most URLs.
>  Const cstrFileIndex As String = "index.htm"
>
>  IsURL = (URLDownloadToFile(0, strURL, cstrFileIndex, 0, 0) = 0)
>
>End Function
>
></code module>
>
>If your URLs contains html document name you will have to modify the
>code to
>use that and not append index.html.
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>d.dick at uws.edu.au 17-11-2004 05:03:08 >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>
>I have an educational client who has a CD full of Education URL's
>(Zillion's
>of 'em) Occasionally someone has to test to see if the links are broken
>or
>not (Manually <yuk>)
>
>I thought this would be a perfect application for Access Set up a table
>of
>URLs and loop through 'em and return TRUE or FALSE
>
>So...Is there a way I can type in
>say...http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
>and return "true" if the site exists or "false" if the site does not
>exist.
>
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Thu Nov 18 12:54:55 2004
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 18:54:55 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Corrupt Data File
In-Reply-To: <013701c4cd19$55bd91e0$fa10a8c0@Albatross>
Message-ID: <BAY101-F3600DDD2A6780650788D50D2C20@phx.gbl>

I had the same/similar problem a few months ago...If I tried to 
import,export, or compact...I would get that error.  It seemed to revolve 
around 1 record( with a memo field)...when viewing the memo 'error' 
appeared.  I removed this record...and was able to compact.

Good Luck,

Mark A. Matte

>From: <pcs at azizaz.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Corrupt Data File
>Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 12:50:16 +1000
>
>Are you able to import the backendDb tables into a new empty db?
>
>Regards
>Borge
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "MACE, Terry" <terry.mace at baesystems.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:36 AM
>Subject: [AccessD] Corrupt Data File
>
>
> >
> > Help!!
> >
> > I have a store management database application in Ac97 and last night 
>the
> > back end data file was corrupted.  I have run the Ac97 repair tool and
>also
> > Jetcomp.exe on the file and they both say the file is OK.
> >
> > The problem is when I attempt to open it I get the following message:
> >
> > "'Index1' isn't an index in this table. Look in the indexes collection 
>of
> > the TableDef object to determine the valid index names." OK /HELP
> >
> > Clicking on the OK button just terminates the opening process.  Due to 
>an
> > undiscovered (until now!) quirk in our backup system, this file has 
>never
> > been backed up.  The file size is 7.2Mb and contains about 7000 records. 
>A
> > zipped copy is about 1.6Mb.
> >
> > Any advice on how or who could fix it would be most appreciated.
> >
> > Terry Mace
> > BAE Systems
> > Melbourne, Australia
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From kaupca at chevrontexaco.com  Thu Nov 18 12:56:25 2004
From: kaupca at chevrontexaco.com (Kaup, Chester A)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 12:56:25 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Query of query results problem
Message-ID: <1375769556091B4DAABC159F944CA1BB07A2DA@bocnte2k4.hou150.chevrontexaco.net>

I had to use the csng function on each field in the second query. I was
just wondering if this is normal behavior for access or if something
else is happening.

Chester Kaup
Information Management Technician
IT-MidContinent/MidContinent Business Unit
CTN 8-687-7415  
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:43 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query of query results problem


Isn't there something about a calculation inheriting the format of the,
what I think of, the simplest format?  What if you set the formatting in
the second query in the query itself to like a double and specify the
number of decimals?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
A
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:23 PM
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Subject: [AccessD] Query of query results problem


I have a query with no formatting in it that generates numbers with
various numbers of digits after the decimal place. When I run a query
against this query with no number formatting the result in integers (all
decimal precision is gone). What is happening here?

Chester Kaup
Information Management Technician
IT-MidContinent/MidContinent Business Unit
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Nov 18 12:56:39 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:56:39 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Re: ODBC against Oracle partitioned db
In-Reply-To: <B94C79B465542042AB0748EAF37F9AC0A427C0@EXCNYSM0A1AB.nysemail.nyenet>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIIEFFCIAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Patti:

Toad is probably the best Oracle manager/designer/developer tool ever built.
It has now expanded it's extensive set of features to MS SQL and even MySQL.
Check it out: http://www.toadsoft.com/

HTH
Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of O'Connor,
Patricia (OTDA)
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 9:05 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: ODBC against Oracle partitioned db



What is TOAD?

I was wondering whether the newest Oracle ODBC driver would solve it. We
still have the 9.x one.

Thanks
Patti
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> Robert L. Stewart
> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 02:56 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Re: ODBC against Oracle partitioned db
>
> As you can see, Access and the ODBC driver has trouble with a
> partioned table.
>
> Use Toad or something like it for the type of things you
> would do in running queries and viewing data.  Since it is
> written for Oracle, it plays with it better.
>
> Robert
>
> At 12:01 PM 11/16/2004 -0600, you wrote:
> >Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 10:28:49 -0500
> >From: "O'Connor, Patricia \(OTDA\)"
> >         <Patricia.O'Connor at dfa.state.ny.us>
> >Subject: [AccessD] ODBC against Oracle partitioned db
> >To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> >         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Message-ID:
> >
> <B94C79B465542042AB0748EAF37F9AC0A427B1 at EXCNYSM0A1AB.nysemail.nyenet>
> >Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
> >
> >Hi all
> >
> >When I use the Oracle ODBC driver against an ORACLE un-partitioned
> >table from Access (either passthru or gui), I have not problem. Data
> >comes back can scroll through 1-30+K records no problem.
> >
> >When I use same driver against an Oracle partitioned table
> from access,
> >I get temporary freeze ups when scrolling through records even
> >scrolling from column 1 to say col 10 on screen. It doesn't
> matter how
> >many records in set - scroll down 3-6 records - stop. Sometimes the
> >stall can be 2-5 minutes.
> >
> >Doesn't matter if it is the only thing running on computer. I do not
> >have this problem with an unpartioned set.  I waste a good amount of
> >time waiting for access to let me back in.
> >
> >Has anyone run into this and is there a workaround or
> setting I need to
> >change in the driver configuration.  My machine is Win2k, Access2k,
> >Oracle10
> >
> >Thanks in advance
> >Patti
>
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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Thu Nov 18 13:11:14 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:11:14 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem
Message-ID: <001d01c4cda2$62c28dd0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

The Situation

On an inherited database the client has a single Employees form that lists
the with a text box for job title.

They want to have one employee with many job titles. I am trying to add a
sub form continuous view with a combo box.

 

 

SELECT stblEmpJobTitle.EmpID, stblEmpJobTitle.JobTitleID, [Job
Title].JobTitle

FROM [Job Title] LEFT JOIN stblEmpJobTitle ON [Job Title].JobTitleID =
stblEmpJobTitle.JobTitleID

WHERE (((stblEmpJobTitle.EmpID)=[Forms]![Employees]![EmpID]));

I need to not only show current job title but also assign new ones. When I
go to the next combo box it already has the existing job.

 

Looking for some help here please. 

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net 

 


From GregSmith at starband.net  Thu Nov 18 14:44:35 2004
From: GregSmith at starband.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 14:44:35 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD] Accessing data in secured mdb from another secured mdb
	on a different workgroup
In-Reply-To: <000f01c4cd9c$6f150fa0$0e0b6bd5@netboxxp>
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20041116135414.01419f28@pop3.highstream.net>
	<000f01c4cd9c$6f150fa0$0e0b6bd5@netboxxp>
Message-ID: <2249.65.118.249.206.1100810675.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>

Mark:

Do any of the groups/users in the two different MDW's have the same PID's?
 Or were both mdw files created independently?  If the latter is true, you
might be hosed.  I'm ASSuming (dangerous word) that both apps and data
sets are using full MS Access security.

The next question (or continuing) then, if they both are fully
independent, how do you get data from one to the other?  You have to
somehow combine the mdw's (create new users/groups in one mdw from the
other mdw using the PIDs from the other mdw) and then one MDW file would
be used for both apps.  "Bit of a pain..." is an understatement.

I don't know your full setup, but another option would be (warning: this
is a cobble...) to create a third UNSECURED db for the data, export data
to it from the one database, then import from it into the other database.
That way all the exporting and importing is done from the secured db's and
they, technically, don't 'see' each other or their security. However, your
exported/imported data, while in the unsecured database, is just
that...unsecured. You didn't say whether this was a one time deal or an
ongoing process, so that may also figure into what you need to do as well.

Well, that's MY two cents worth.  Good luck!

Greg Smith
gregsmith at starband.net

> Hello All (I sent his yesterday but it didn';t seem to get through...)
>
> Using AXP on WinXP
>
> I have two databases secured on different workgroups and accessed from
> different front ends. I need to be able to import data from one into the
> other but am having problems as they are secured on different mdw's. I
> could merge the two mdw's but that would be a bit of a pain.
>
> Anyone know a simple solution?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Mark
>
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From GregSmith at starband.net  Thu Nov 18 15:01:05 2004
From: GregSmith at starband.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 15:01:05 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD] Corrupt Data File
In-Reply-To: <BAY101-F3600DDD2A6780650788D50D2C20@phx.gbl>
References: <013701c4cd19$55bd91e0$fa10a8c0@Albatross>
	<BAY101-F3600DDD2A6780650788D50D2C20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <2284.65.118.249.206.1100811665.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>

Terry:

Look at http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;158933 for
some help...although it's not help really...it just tells you how hosed
you really are.  I had a client who got this error message and there was
absolutely nothing we could do with it.  The backend data was corrupted
beyond repair.  We couldn't even import the data out of it.  She had to go
and use the last backup, which I conveniently had a copy of, but it was
over two weeks old.  Her tape drive had not been working right (and she
knew it...but put off getting it fixed...) so her backup was missing over
two weeks of data they had to reenter.  I hope this is NOT the case for
you, but, judging from the Microsoft article, I don't hold out much hope.

Good luck!

Greg Smith
gregsmith at starband.net

>> > Help!!
>> >
>> > I have a store management database application in Ac97 and last
>> night
>>the
>> > back end data file was corrupted.  I have run the Ac97 repair tool
>> and
>>also
>> > Jetcomp.exe on the file and they both say the file is OK.
>> >
>> > The problem is when I attempt to open it I get the following
>> message:
>> >
>> > "'Index1' isn't an index in this table. Look in the indexes
>> collection
>>of
>> > the TableDef object to determine the valid index names." OK /HELP
>> >
>> > Clicking on the OK button just terminates the opening process.  Due
>> to
>>an
>> > undiscovered (until now!) quirk in our backup system, this file has
>>never
>> > been backed up.  The file size is 7.2Mb and contains about 7000
>> records.
>>A
>> > zipped copy is about 1.6Mb.
>> >
>> > Any advice on how or who could fix it would be most appreciated.
>> >
>> > Terry Mace
>> > BAE Systems
>> > Melbourne, Australia





From lists at theopg.com  Thu Nov 18 15:32:43 2004
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 21:32:43 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Accessing data in secured mdb from another secured
	mdbon a different workgroup
In-Reply-To: <2249.65.118.249.206.1100810675.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
Message-ID: <001701c4cdb6$24b39f70$0e0b6bd5@netboxxp>

Greg

1) Both mdw files were created independantly and both backends are fully
secured (I do have full access on each)
2) I was hoping to avoid merging the workgroups, but if I have to then
luckilly one has less than ten users
3) A temporary unsecured database is out of the question unfortunately
due to the nature of the data

... I have read, since posting my original message, that the desired
result "could" possibly be achieved by creating an access application
variable within one of the front-ends that uses a connection string to
the other backend which includes workgroup and login details. I would
like to avoid this as it seems clumsy, haven't tried it yet though...

Looks like merging the two mdw's will be the best bet... Never mind :O)

Thanks very much for the suggestions

Mark

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
Sent: 18 November 2004 20:45
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Accessing data in secured mdb from another
secured mdbon a different workgroup


Mark:

Do any of the groups/users in the two different MDW's have the same
PID's?  Or were both mdw files created independently?  If the latter is
true, you might be hosed.  I'm ASSuming (dangerous word) that both apps
and data sets are using full MS Access security.

The next question (or continuing) then, if they both are fully
independent, how do you get data from one to the other?  You have to
somehow combine the mdw's (create new users/groups in one mdw from the
other mdw using the PIDs from the other mdw) and then one MDW file would
be used for both apps.  "Bit of a pain..." is an understatement.

I don't know your full setup, but another option would be (warning: this
is a cobble...) to create a third UNSECURED db for the data, export data
to it from the one database, then import from it into the other
database. That way all the exporting and importing is done from the
secured db's and they, technically, don't 'see' each other or their
security. However, your exported/imported data, while in the unsecured
database, is just that...unsecured. You didn't say whether this was a
one time deal or an ongoing process, so that may also figure into what
you need to do as well.

Well, that's MY two cents worth.  Good luck!

Greg Smith
gregsmith at starband.net

> Hello All (I sent his yesterday but it didn';t seem to get through...)
>
> Using AXP on WinXP
>
> I have two databases secured on different workgroups and accessed from

> different front ends. I need to be able to import data from one into 
> the other but am having problems as they are secured on different 
> mdw's. I could merge the two mdw's but that would be a bit of a pain.
>
> Anyone know a simple solution?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Mark
>
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Thu Nov 18 15:44:11 2004
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 21:44:11 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] IMESentenceMode gremlin
In-Reply-To: <EAF3070ACB1AD81182280002A51EF731192362@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <BAY101-F1401B0F5A52E201D827962D2C20@phx.gbl>

Paul,

I would open the vba window and compile all modules...something might be 
missing under 'TOOLS_REFERENCES'.

Hope it helps,

Mark A. Matte

>From: Paul Rodgers <Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: [AccessD] IMESentenceMode gremlin
>Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:29:12 -0000
>
>A slight change to a cmd button on a form has Access offering a fault, 'You
>entered an expression that has an invalid reference to the  property
>IMESentenceMode'.
>
>The debug highlight is of an unrelated, unchanged piece of code.
>
>Anyone been here, please, and answered this seemingly strange error. Cheers
>paul
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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Nov 18 16:05:28 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 09:05:28 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS - Repost
In-Reply-To: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F33980@nprdex02.nns.com>
Message-ID: <200411182205.iAIM5edQ014590@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Mark
Perfect - Excellent bit of work
Many thanks

Darren
 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
Sent: Friday, 19 November 2004 2:46 AM
To: [AccessD]
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS - Repost

Darren,

When doing maintenance on my departmental website, I use Xenu's Link Sleuth.
I am fairly certain that it is still free to download.
http://home.snafu.de/tilman/xenulink.html  Not only can it verify links
within a website, but for you purposes I believe it will verify a simple
text listing of URLs.

It is extremely fast.


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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Nov 18 16:10:39 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 09:10:39 +1100
Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
In-Reply-To: <419CEED5.3000105@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <200411182210.iAIMApdQ018173@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Tina
Well spotted - slip of the 'vowels' ((That's a slip of the consonants:-))
Should be an e not an o  

By the way I ended up using Link Sleuth - it's free and it's fast

Thanks to all who responded

DD



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris
Fields
Sent: Friday, 19 November 2004 5:50 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS

Okay, I can't resist any longer - didn't anybody else laugh about this
subject line?  How hungry does a URL have to be before it becomes voracious
and we have to test its voracity?
LOL
Tina

Jim Lawrence (AccessD) wrote:

>General comment
>
>Any file extension and file name can be setup as default initial web 
>site code. Html (variations htm, htlms...), and is just one extension 
>type but 'pl' (perl), 'asp and aspx' asp/net, 'php', 'jsp', 'xml' to 
>name a few, are just as valid and standard. As for names, anything 
>goes. The most common are of course 'index', but 'homepage' is a 
>standard when using MS FP. It is all set up on your IIS or Apache, in 
>the properties per hosted web site. Most sites are fairly standard but 
>I have seen some odd variations over the years. In a nutshell, everything
goes.
>
>HTH
>Jim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 1:42 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>
>
>Hi Darren
>
>Not quite sure what you are doing. It will return one result only ...
>index.htm is chosen as any site has this page. By second thought, 
>index.html is possible too, but I don't know (do we have a web guru
>present?) - perhaps the function should be expanded to check for any of 
>these two files?
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>d.dick at uws.edu.au 18-11-2004 01:58:27 >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>
>Hi Gustav
>Many thanks
>I'm not sure how to use the code though :-(( I get odd results
>
>When I put isUrl ("http://www.ibm.com") behind a button on a form and 
>put debug.print IsURL at the end of Public Function IsURL I get "true"
>If I put msgbox IsYrl at the end of Public Function IsURL I get false 
>??
>Dunno what it all means
>
>http://www.ibm.com is a valid and live website How do it know if there 
>will be an index.htm file at the other end?
>And how come I get differeing results with MSGBOX and Debug.print?
>
>Obviously doing something wrong
>
>Many thanks in advance
>
>Darren
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>Sent: Wednesday, 17 November 2004 8:36 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Svar: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS
>
>Hi Darren
>
>We use these functions:
>
><code module>
>
>Private Declare Function URLDownloadToFile Lib "urlmon" Alias 
>"URLDownloadToFileA" ( _
>  ByVal pCaller As Long, _
>  ByVal szURL As String, _
>  ByVal szFileName As String, _
>  ByVal dwReserved As Long, _
>  ByVal lpfnCB As Long) _
>  As Long
>
>Public Function IsURL(ByVal strURL As String) As Boolean
>
>' Usage: Check if URL strURL is alive and reachable.
>'   booURL = IsURL("http://www.ibm.com")
>'   booURL = IsURL("ftp://ftp.novell.com")
>'
>' Note: Protocol header like "http://" must be provided.
>'
>' 2001-12-09. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.
>
>  ' File found at most URLs.
>  Const cstrFileIndex As String = "index.htm"
>
>  IsURL = (URLDownloadToFile(0, strURL, cstrFileIndex, 0, 0) = 0)
>
>End Function
>
></code module>
>
>If your URLs contains html document name you will have to modify the 
>code to use that and not append index.html.
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>d.dick at uws.edu.au 17-11-2004 05:03:08 >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>
>I have an educational client who has a CD full of Education URL's 
>(Zillion's of 'em) Occasionally someone has to test to see if the links 
>are broken or not (Manually <yuk>)
>
>I thought this would be a perfect application for Access Set up a table 
>of URLs and loop through 'em and return TRUE or FALSE
>
>So...Is there a way I can type in
>say...http://somewebsite.someserver.com.au
>and return "true" if the site exists or "false" if the site does not 
>exist.
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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Nov 18 16:41:27 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 09:41:27 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?
In-Reply-To: <20041118115010.AB95725D353@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <200411182241.iAIMfedQ013637@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Andy
How are things??
Say Hello to your lovely for me

In cases like this in the on_click of a check box
I just look at its current value. 
Then run a query based on the opposite value then refresh or Requery the
screen

Eg 
If Me.chkCheckBox = -1 then
	docmd.openquery "upd_qryThatChangesTheValueForThisRecordToZero
ElseIf Me.chkCheckBox = 0 then
	docmd.openquery "upd_qryThatChangesTheValueForThisRecordToMinus1
End if

Me.requery

And if needed set a bookmark or global so you can return to the
Relavant record after a requery

Hope this helps

And we'll see you.........:-)))

DD

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Thursday, 18 November 2004 9:50 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?

Feared that might be the case. Ah well, always worth asking the list cos if
there's a way someone here will know it. Thanks for the response Gustav.
--
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http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



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<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?
Date: 18/11/04 10:59

>
> Hi Andy
>
> No, unions are read-only. If you can't go the update-behind-requery 
> route, I guess you are left with the temp table.
>
> /gustav
>
> &gt;&gt;&gt; andy at minstersystems.co.uk 18-11-2004 10:09:56 
> &gt;&gt;&gt;
>
> Morning all
> I've a continuous screen which needs to list two types of order in 
> date sequence. These are held on separate tables. No problem, a UNION 
> query does the job fine. However the user has to tick an order to say 
> it's despatched, and then the screen needs to show that information, 
> but the recordset is not updatable. Presumably this applies to all 
> UNION queries does it? Does anyone have a way round this or do I have 
> to go to extracting to a temp table and all that jazz?
>
> By the way it's not practical to upodate the underlying tables and 
> requery to display the depatch info because there's a lot of data on 
> screen and requerying takes too long.
>
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Nov 18 19:50:59 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 17:50:59 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] For Trainee BOFH's
References: <200411182210.iAIMApdQ018173@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <419D5183.2070209@shaw.ca>

 Those of you working on your BOFH certification might find this piece 
of code useful
Or if you really want to get all those users out of your database so you 
can work on it.
Or if you really want to renew a dhcp lease.

You can run from vbs or Access VBA

Here's a way to reboot a list of systems with a single keystroke. 
Replace the contents of the code between "Else" and "End if" statements 
in the  script below  that (renews DHCP leases on all computers) with 
the following:

 Set colOperatingSystems = objWMIService.ExecQuery("Select * from 
Win32_OperatingSystem")
 objTextFile.WriteLine(strComputer & " is rebooting.")
 For Each objOperatingSystem in colOperatingSystems
   ObjOperatingSystem.Reboot()
Next


'computer.txt' is a file that contains a list of all network machine names
' well aside from your own.

RebootFile = "computers.txt"
LogFile = "results.txt"

Set fso = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
Set f = fso.OpenTextFile(RebootFile, 1, True)
Set objTextFile = fso.OpenTextFile(LogFile, 2, True)

On Error resume next
Do While f.AtEndOfLine <> True
 strComputer = f.ReadLine
Set objWMIService = GetObject("winmgmts:" & 
"{impersonationLevel=impersonate}!\\" & strComputer & "\root\cimv2")
If Err.Number <> 0 Then
 objTextFile.WriteLine(intCount & ". " & strComputer & " is not 
responding.")
 Err.Clear
Else
Set objNetworkSettings =  
objWMIService.Get("Win32_NetworkAdapterConfiguration")
 objNetworkSettings.RenewDHCPLeaseAll()
 objTextFile.WriteLine(strComputer & " has been renewed.")
End If
Loop

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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Thu Nov 18 20:04:24 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 19:04:24 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] ActiveX control for capturing a signature?
Message-ID: <48860-22004115192424187@christopherhawkins.com>

A client of mine has cobbled together a rickety Access app that runs
on a touch screen monitor.  He has his customers fill out a customer
satisfactions surveyo it by pressing buttons to select 1-10 ratings
on various elements of his service.  It's pretty clever.

However, he's not content to stop there.  He wants to provide a
stylus and have the customer sign their name to the survey right
there on the screen, and have the signatuire be stored as an OLE
Object or as an image file someplace..

I'm sure there's got to be an ActiveX control out there that will
capture this kind of input.  But I don't even know where to start
looking for it. 

Anyone do anything like this before?

-Chistopher-
Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com




From jmhla at earthlink.net  Thu Nov 18 20:04:54 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 18:04:54 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] For Trainee BOFH's
In-Reply-To: <419D5183.2070209@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <001501c4cddc$29bd5670$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

I will bite.  BOFH?

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 5:51 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] For Trainee BOFH's

 Those of you working on your BOFH certification might find this piece 
of code useful
Or if you really want to get all those users out of your database so you 
can work on it.
Or if you really want to renew a dhcp lease.

You can run from vbs or Access VBA

Here's a way to reboot a list of systems with a single keystroke. 
Replace the contents of the code between "Else" and "End if" statements 
in the  script below  that (renews DHCP leases on all computers) with 
the following:

 Set colOperatingSystems = objWMIService.ExecQuery("Select * from 
Win32_OperatingSystem")
 objTextFile.WriteLine(strComputer & " is rebooting.")
 For Each objOperatingSystem in colOperatingSystems
   ObjOperatingSystem.Reboot()
Next


'computer.txt' is a file that contains a list of all network machine names
' well aside from your own.

RebootFile = "computers.txt"
LogFile = "results.txt"

Set fso = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
Set f = fso.OpenTextFile(RebootFile, 1, True)
Set objTextFile = fso.OpenTextFile(LogFile, 2, True)

On Error resume next
Do While f.AtEndOfLine <> True
 strComputer = f.ReadLine
Set objWMIService = GetObject("winmgmts:" & 
"{impersonationLevel=impersonate}!\\" & strComputer & "\root\cimv2")
If Err.Number <> 0 Then
 objTextFile.WriteLine(intCount & ". " & strComputer & " is not 
responding.")
 Err.Clear
Else
Set objNetworkSettings =  
objWMIService.Get("Win32_NetworkAdapterConfiguration")
 objNetworkSettings.RenewDHCPLeaseAll()
 objTextFile.WriteLine(strComputer & " has been renewed.")
End If
Loop

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Thu Nov 18 20:05:37 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 18:05:37 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ActiveX control for capturing a signature?
In-Reply-To: <48860-22004115192424187@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <001601c4cddc$46a73940$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

Look at point of sales sites maybe?

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hawkins
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 6:04 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] ActiveX control for capturing a signature?

A client of mine has cobbled together a rickety Access app that runs
on a touch screen monitor.  He has his customers fill out a customer
satisfactions surveyo it by pressing buttons to select 1-10 ratings
on various elements of his service.  It's pretty clever.

However, he's not content to stop there.  He wants to provide a
stylus and have the customer sign their name to the survey right
there on the screen, and have the signatuire be stored as an OLE
Object or as an image file someplace..

I'm sure there's got to be an ActiveX control out there that will
capture this kind of input.  But I don't even know where to start
looking for it. 

Anyone do anything like this before?

-Chistopher-
Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com


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From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Thu Nov 18 20:26:20 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 21:26:20 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Accessing data in secured mdb from another secured mdb
	on	a different workgroup
In-Reply-To: <000f01c4cd9c$6f150fa0$0e0b6bd5@netboxxp>
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20041116135414.01419f28@pop3.highstream.net>
Message-ID: <419D137C.19277.573D8F@localhost>

On 18 Nov 2004 at 18:28, MarkH wrote:

> Hello All (I sent his yesterday but it didn';t seem to get through...)
> 
> Using AXP on WinXP
> 
> I have two databases secured on different workgroups and accessed from
> different front ends. I need to be able to import data from one into
> the other but am having problems as they are secured on different
> mdw's. I could merge the two mdw's but that would be a bit of a pain.
> 
> Anyone know a simple solution?

Create a new DAO workspace

Private mwks As DAO.Workspace 'Workspace for the DB's to be opened in
Private mdbBE As DAO.Database 'BE DB Reference

'Open the Workspace
Set mwks = CreateWorkspace("AnyName", "UserName", "PassWord")
'Set Reference to BE, opened Exclusively
Set mdbBE = mwks.OpenDatabase(Me.BEPath, True, False, Me.BEPassword)

Now the mdbBE dao database object can be refered to just like you 
would with any other DAO database object.

This is the approach that we took with the Alpha version of the 
BackEnd Upgrader that deals with back ends that were secured with Jet 
Security.

-- 
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Unfortunately common sense isn't so common!




From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Nov 18 20:37:20 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 18:37:20 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] For Trainee BOFH's
References: <001501c4cddc$29bd5670$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <419D5C60.2010609@shaw.ca>

How to get an upgrade, BOFH-style
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/01/17/how_to_get_an_upgrade/
There is a couple of years worth of articles here
http://www.theregister.co.uk/odds/bofh/
Oh yes BOFH Bastard Operator From Hell


Joe Hecht wrote:

>I will bite.  BOFH?
>
>JOE HECHT
>LOS ANGELES CA 
> jmhla at earthlink.net
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
>Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 5:51 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] For Trainee BOFH's
>
> Those of you working on your BOFH certification might find this piece 
>of code useful
>Or if you really want to get all those users out of your database so you 
>can work on it.
>Or if you really want to renew a dhcp lease.
>
>You can run from vbs or Access VBA
>
>Here's a way to reboot a list of systems with a single keystroke. 
>Replace the contents of the code between "Else" and "End if" statements 
>in the  script below  that (renews DHCP leases on all computers) with 
>the following:
>
> Set colOperatingSystems = objWMIService.ExecQuery("Select * from 
>Win32_OperatingSystem")
> objTextFile.WriteLine(strComputer & " is rebooting.")
> For Each objOperatingSystem in colOperatingSystems
>   ObjOperatingSystem.Reboot()
>Next
>
>
>'computer.txt' is a file that contains a list of all network machine names
>' well aside from your own.
>
>RebootFile = "computers.txt"
>LogFile = "results.txt"
>
>Set fso = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
>Set f = fso.OpenTextFile(RebootFile, 1, True)
>Set objTextFile = fso.OpenTextFile(LogFile, 2, True)
>
>On Error resume next
>Do While f.AtEndOfLine <> True
> strComputer = f.ReadLine
>Set objWMIService = GetObject("winmgmts:" & 
>"{impersonationLevel=impersonate}!\\" & strComputer & "\root\cimv2")
>If Err.Number <> 0 Then
> objTextFile.WriteLine(intCount & ". " & strComputer & " is not 
>responding.")
> Err.Clear
>Else
>Set objNetworkSettings =  
>objWMIService.Get("Win32_NetworkAdapterConfiguration")
> objNetworkSettings.RenewDHCPLeaseAll()
> objTextFile.WriteLine(strComputer & " has been renewed.")
>End If
>Loop
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Nov 18 20:40:55 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 18:40:55 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] For Trainee BOFH's
References: <001501c4cddc$29bd5670$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <419D5D37.6040607@shaw.ca>

Or try here for usenet definition
http://www.comedia.com/hot/jargon-4.2.3/html/entry/BOFH.html


Joe Hecht wrote:

>I will bite.  BOFH?
>
>JOE HECHT
>LOS ANGELES CA 
> jmhla at earthlink.net
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
>Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 5:51 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] For Trainee BOFH's
>
> Those of you working on your BOFH certification might find this piece 
>of code useful
>Or if you really want to get all those users out of your database so you 
>can work on it.
>Or if you really want to renew a dhcp lease.
>
>You can run from vbs or Access VBA
>
>Here's a way to reboot a list of systems with a single keystroke. 
>Replace the contents of the code between "Else" and "End if" statements 
>in the  script below  that (renews DHCP leases on all computers) with 
>the following:
>
> Set colOperatingSystems = objWMIService.ExecQuery("Select * from 
>Win32_OperatingSystem")
> objTextFile.WriteLine(strComputer & " is rebooting.")
> For Each objOperatingSystem in colOperatingSystems
>   ObjOperatingSystem.Reboot()
>Next
>
>
>'computer.txt' is a file that contains a list of all network machine names
>' well aside from your own.
>
>RebootFile = "computers.txt"
>LogFile = "results.txt"
>
>Set fso = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
>Set f = fso.OpenTextFile(RebootFile, 1, True)
>Set objTextFile = fso.OpenTextFile(LogFile, 2, True)
>
>On Error resume next
>Do While f.AtEndOfLine <> True
> strComputer = f.ReadLine
>Set objWMIService = GetObject("winmgmts:" & 
>"{impersonationLevel=impersonate}!\\" & strComputer & "\root\cimv2")
>If Err.Number <> 0 Then
> objTextFile.WriteLine(intCount & ". " & strComputer & " is not 
>responding.")
> Err.Clear
>Else
>Set objNetworkSettings =  
>objWMIService.Get("Win32_NetworkAdapterConfiguration")
> objNetworkSettings.RenewDHCPLeaseAll()
> objTextFile.WriteLine(strComputer & " has been renewed.")
>End If
>Loop
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From lists at theopg.com  Fri Nov 19 03:17:00 2004
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 09:17:00 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Accessing data in secured mdb from another secured
	mdbon	a different workgroup
In-Reply-To: <419D137C.19277.573D8F@localhost>
Message-ID: <000001c4ce18$88012590$0e0b6bd5@netboxxp>

Hello Bryan... Thanks for the suggestion, not quite sure on a couple of
things though...

I assume that, from "me.BEPassword" the user enters their username and
password on screen?

I'm not sure how this gets passed the mdw security? The front-end that
is requesting the data belongs to a different mdw so even though I
passed the correct username and password I still get refused access
because the connection request is being made whilst joined to a
different mdw. I have tried specifying the mdw in the connection string
but either its not possible or I'm getting the format wrong :@(

Is it possible to specify a different mdw?

Thanks again

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
Carbonnell
Sent: 19 November 2004 02:26
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Accessing data in secured mdb from another
secured mdbon a different workgroup


On 18 Nov 2004 at 18:28, MarkH wrote:

> Hello All (I sent his yesterday but it didn';t seem to get through...)
> 
> Using AXP on WinXP
> 
> I have two databases secured on different workgroups and accessed from

> different front ends. I need to be able to import data from one into 
> the other but am having problems as they are secured on different 
> mdw's. I could merge the two mdw's but that would be a bit of a pain.
> 
> Anyone know a simple solution?

Create a new DAO workspace

Private mwks As DAO.Workspace 'Workspace for the DB's to be opened in
Private mdbBE As DAO.Database 'BE DB Reference

'Open the Workspace
Set mwks = CreateWorkspace("AnyName", "UserName", "PassWord") 'Set
Reference to BE, opened Exclusively 
Set mdbBE = mwks.OpenDatabase(Me.BEPath, True, False, Me.BEPassword)

Now the mdbBE dao database object can be refered to just like you 
would with any other DAO database object.

This is the approach that we took with the Alpha version of the 
BackEnd Upgrader that deals with back ends that were secured with Jet 
Security.

-- 
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Unfortunately common sense isn't so common!


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From lists at theopg.com  Fri Nov 19 03:55:50 2004
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 09:55:50 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Accessing data in secured mdb from another ... Clumsy
	fix - comments please
In-Reply-To: <000001c4ce18$88012590$0e0b6bd5@netboxxp>
Message-ID: <000101c4ce1d$f4c3c2a0$0e0b6bd5@netboxxp>

Hello again...

I can establish (fairly easilly) a connection using the following
method:

    Dim app As Access.Application
    Dim db As DAO.Database
    
    Set app = New Access.Application
    
    app.SetDefaultWorkgroupFile "pathToMDW"
    
    app.OpenCurrentDatabase "pathToSecuredMDB" 'login prompt displayed

    '... Set rs etc...

This works, but I'm concerned that working with a database this way may
invite problems (never had to do it like this before). The clients
network is one of the slowest I ever worked with and I would like to
avoid potentially locking up a machine while the app etc. is being
accessed.

Anyone out there have experience of this method and what to look out
for?

Many thanks

Mark

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From lists at theopg.com  Fri Nov 19 04:28:20 2004
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:28:20 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Accessing data in secured mdb from another ... Used
	ADODB
In-Reply-To: <000101c4ce1d$f4c3c2a0$0e0b6bd5@netboxxp>
Message-ID: <000201c4ce22$7ebf6960$0e0b6bd5@netboxxp>

Doh... Completely forgot about ADO as I havent used it for quite a
while... Nice and easy and no need for a separate application object,
just specified the mdw in the connection properties and prompted user to
enter login details :@)

Mark

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From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Fri Nov 19 04:30:51 2004
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 05:30:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Accessing data in secured mdb from another
	secured	mdbon	a different workgroup
In-Reply-To: <000001c4ce18$88012590$0e0b6bd5@netboxxp>
References: <419D137C.19277.573D8F@localhost>
Message-ID: <419D850B.22905.20D64E@localhost>

On 19 Nov 2004 at 9:17, MarkH wrote:

> Hello Bryan... Thanks for the suggestion, not quite sure on a couple
> of things though...
> 
> I assume that, from "me.BEPassword" the user enters their username and
> password on screen?

It could be that they do do that. We had it hardcoded. but that is a 
password for the BE if it only has a password on it, not Jet 
security, just a password.

> I'm not sure how this gets passed the mdw security? The front-end that
> is requesting the data belongs to a different mdw so even though I
> passed the correct username and password I still get refused access
> because the connection request is being made whilst joined to a
> different mdw. I have tried specifying the mdw in the connection
> string but either its not possible or I'm getting the format wrong :@(
> 
> Is it possible to specify a different mdw?

Aw cr*p. Missed that part completely :( I'm not sure.

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From lists at theopg.com  Fri Nov 19 04:47:54 2004
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:47:54 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Accessing data in secured mdb from
	anothersecured	mdbon	a different workgroup
In-Reply-To: <419D850B.22905.20D64E@localhost>
Message-ID: <000301c4ce25$3a94ab30$0e0b6bd5@netboxxp>

No worries matey... Used ADO and it works just fine :@)

Thanks anyway

Mark

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
Carbonnell
Sent: 19 November 2004 10:31
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Accessing data in secured mdb from anothersecured
mdbon a different workgroup


On 19 Nov 2004 at 9:17, MarkH wrote:

> Hello Bryan... Thanks for the suggestion, not quite sure on a couple 
> of things though...
> 
> I assume that, from "me.BEPassword" the user enters their username and

> password on screen?

It could be that they do do that. We had it hardcoded. but that is a 
password for the BE if it only has a password on it, not Jet 
security, just a password.

> I'm not sure how this gets passed the mdw security? The front-end that

> is requesting the data belongs to a different mdw so even though I 
> passed the correct username and password I still get refused access 
> because the connection request is being made whilst joined to a 
> different mdw. I have tried specifying the mdw in the connection 
> string but either its not possible or I'm getting the format wrong :@(
> 
> Is it possible to specify a different mdw?

Aw cr*p. Missed that part completely :( I'm not sure.

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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Fri Nov 19 07:47:47 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 08:47:47 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS - Repost
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F3398B@nprdex02.nns.com>

Darren,

I'm glad you actually got the post.  I still haven't seen either of my posts
from this thread:(  I truly believe I am missing a growing number of posts
from my dba lists, but I haven't got a clue as to why or if there is a
pattern emerging.

Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: Darren DICK [mailto:d.dick at uws.edu.au] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 5:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS - Repost


Hi Mark
Perfect - Excellent bit of work
Many thanks

Darren
 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
Sent: Friday, 19 November 2004 2:46 AM
To: [AccessD]
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS - Repost

Darren,

When doing maintenance on my departmental website, I use Xenu's Link Sleuth.
I am fairly certain that it is still free to download.
http://home.snafu.de/tilman/xenulink.html  Not only can it verify links
within a website, but for you purposes I believe it will verify a simple
text listing of URLs.

It is extremely fast.


Mark
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Fri Nov 19 07:49:20 2004
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:49:20 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?
In-Reply-To: <s19c8e67.028@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <BAY101-F1495074886B535CAE33DBED2C30@phx.gbl>

Andy,

This might sound like dancing around this issue...but could you have user 
click on the record to be updated...open a second query/form for just that 
record...save the record...and the give a message, "Your update has been 
saved and will be reflected next time you refresh the screen".

Just a thought...

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

>From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?
>Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:58:03 +0100
>
>Hi Andy
>
>No, unions are read-only. If you can't go the update-behind-requery
>route, I guess you are left with the temp table.
>
>/gustav
>
> >>> andy at minstersystems.co.uk 18-11-2004 10:09:56 >>>
>
>Morning all
>I've a continuous screen which needs to list two types of order in
>date
>sequence. These are held on separate tables. No problem, a UNION query
>does
>the job fine. However the user has to tick an order to say it's
>despatched,
>and then the screen needs to show that information, but the recordset
>is not
>updatable. Presumably this applies to all UNION queries does it? Does
>anyone
>have a way round this or do I have to go to extracting to a temp table
>and
>all that jazz?
>
>By the way it's not practical to upodate the underlying tables and
>requery
>to display the depatch info because there's a lot of data on screen
>and
>requerying takes too long.
>
>--
>Andy Lacey
>http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>
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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Fri Nov 19 07:57:55 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 05:57:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Search for linked documents....
Message-ID: <20041119135756.42665.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi group,
 
I've got some code from the ADHB2K to search for linked tables. However, it is also possible to link documents...office documents that is. So I mean files with extions like:
.xls;
.txt;
etc
 
Q1: how can I search for these linked 'documents'?
Q2: how can I pinpoint the xls files from none xls files?
 
TIA
 
Sander
 
 

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Nov 19 08:13:18 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 09:13:18 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?
In-Reply-To: <BAY101-F1495074886B535CAE33DBED2C30@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20041119141317.WEZQ2400.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

There is some odd trick in the back of my mind that I just can't quite
remember... 

Is there some trick about adding ALL to a UNION that makes it updateable? I
know, I'm probably crackers -- and I'm probably confusing this with
something else. 

All of my books are in storage and I can't even try to look it up. :( 

Susan H. 

Andy,

This might sound like dancing around this issue...but could you have user
click on the record to be updated...open a second query/form for just that
record...save the record...and the give a message, "Your update has been
saved and will be reflected next time you refresh the screen".




From william.thompson1 at att.net  Fri Nov 19 09:24:08 2004
From: william.thompson1 at att.net (William Thompson)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 07:24:08 -0800
Subject: [AccessD]  Finite instances of form in Edit,
	Add modes - Close cmdButton?
In-Reply-To: <20041119141317.WEZQ2400.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <200411191524.iAJFO9L18806@databaseadvisors.com>

Hi,
I have a SQL Server front-end that has to be a minimal code solution, and I
wanted to open a form, form_someform, with openargs "Edit" or "Add".

I don't want the user to have to 'x' out to close the form instance.  There
would only be the two additional instances.

My question is how to handle the close button in the new instance.  Am I
correct to presume that I have to pass the new instance a reference to
itself in order to hand control back to the caller?

The call to open the instance would be something like

Dim frmSomeTable As Form_SomeTable

 Set frmSomeTable = New Form_SomeTable

Form_SomeTable.Setfocus

Set Form_SomeTable = Nothing

''' I think the new instance needs a Method like

public sub InstanceIt(TheCaller as form)
    
    Set m_frmThis = Me
    
    Set m_frmCaller = TheCaller
    
    Me.Visible = True

end sub

''' So eventually I'd like to somehow have a command button that closes the
form sort of like..

Private Sub cmdCloseThis()

'''	Set m_frmThis = Nothing

''' Or I guess it has to be
''' HandItBackToTheCaller
me.Hide

m_frmCaller.SetFocus

End Sub

''' Caller's Code continued ...
Set Form_SomeTable = Nothing

This won't work though will it ?  I'm a little fuzzy on it, any help
appreciated.

Bill



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Nov 19 09:33:27 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 16:33:27 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.
Message-ID: <s19e2069.021@cactus.dk>

Hi Bobby
 
Always use the syntax stated here (one line):
 
http://www.databaseadvisors.com/newletters/newsletter032004/0310ReferenceGuide/SyntaxForSubs.htm
 
Other methods may work (as you have demonstrated) but they are
generally not considered good programming practice.
 
"Svar:" is Danish for "Re:". We have moved to a brand new GroupWise 6.5
system (boy, this rocks) and currently I'm running the Danish
localisation ... haven't found out yet how to adjust this detail.
 
/gustav


>>> bheid at appdevgrp.com 18-11-2004 19:26:38 >>>

Gustav,

Yes, that works also.  Why would I need to put .Report on the end?  It
already knows it is in the Reports collection?  

I have never seen anything like that when referencing something on a
form
either?  Is there a .Form for the forms?

Also, what is Svar in the subject?

Thanks,
Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav
Brock
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:37 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Svar: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.


Hi Bobby

What happens if you try?
The use of .Report should be the recommended syntax ...

/gustav

>>> bheid at appdevgrp.com 18-11-2004 17:30:50 >>>

I dunno, it works as I have it.  I have never used Report on the end
like
you have it.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav
Brock
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:09 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.


Hi Bobby

Shouldn't it read:

   With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub.Report
      If !txtSetBold <> 0 Then
         !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
      Else
         !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
         !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
      End If
   End With

/gustav

>>> bheid at appdevgrp.com 18-11-2004 16:53:24 >>>

Now this is really weird.  I played with it for over an hour yesterday
and
could not get it to work no matter how I changed it.  I went back in a
few
minutes ago and changed the code from:


   With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub
      If txtSetBold <> 0 Then
         !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         Else
            !txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
            !txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
         End If
      End With

TO 


   With Reports!Closeout!Closeout_GL_sub
      If txtSetBold <> 0 Then
         txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = True
         Else
            txtGLEstPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
            txtGLFinalPayroll.FONTBOLD = False
         End If
      End With

And it now works.  I hate it when Access does this to me.

Thanks all.

Bobby



From Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com  Fri Nov 19 09:39:30 2004
From: Stephen.Pickering at caremark.com (Pickering, Stephen)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 09:39:30 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?
Message-ID: <35C4AC5A5AFD9642833200159C258156A32C7D@s98026.psd.caremark.int>

IIRC, UNION ALL doesn't make the query updateable, it just returns all
records from the unioned tables, without eliminating duplicate records.

Steve

----- Susan Harkins' Original Message-----
 
There is some odd trick in the back of my mind that I just can't quite
remember...

Is there some trick about adding ALL to a UNION that makes it updateable? I
know, I'm probably crackers -- and I'm probably confusing this with
something else.

All of my books are in storage and I can't even try to look it up. :(

Susan H.

Andy,

This might sound like dancing around this issue...but could you have user
click on the record to be updated...open a second query/form for just that
record...save the record...and the give a message, "Your update has been
saved and will be reflected next time you refresh the screen".


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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Fri Nov 19 09:43:38 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 09:43:38 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something
Message-ID: <000e01c4ce4e$8a192090$de1811d8@danwaters>

I have a client who would like their system to be able to present
reports in different languages, based on a selection made on-screen by
the reader.  How would I get started making this happen?  

 

Thanks,

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems



From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Fri Nov 19 09:46:53 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:46:53 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Control reference question.
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30A2B9B3@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB9FE@ADGSERVER>

Thanks for the link.  Printing it now.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:33 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Control reference question.


Hi Bobby
 
Always use the syntax stated here (one line):
 
http://www.databaseadvisors.com/newletters/newsletter032004/0310ReferenceGui
de/SyntaxForSubs.htm
 
Other methods may work (as you have demonstrated) but they are generally not
considered good programming practice.
 
"Svar:" is Danish for "Re:". We have moved to a brand new GroupWise 6.5
system (boy, this rocks) and currently I'm running the Danish localisation
... haven't found out yet how to adjust this detail.
 
/gustav




From JColby at dispec.com  Fri Nov 19 09:47:21 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:47:21 -0500
Subject: [AccessD]  Finite instances of form in Edit, Add modes - Clos
	e cmdButton?
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF999@DISABILITYINS01>

A form opened in this manner has to have a pointer to the form stored
somewhere in order to remain open.  As soon as the last pointer to that form
is set to nothing, the form will close.

One way to keep the form open is to pass the pointer to the form in to the
form, where it stores the pointer to itself in its header. The close button
does nothing more than set that pointer = nothing.  That allows the form to
close itself.

It is not possible to pass pointers as openagrs, the data type of an openarg
is a string.  Thus you have to build a public function in the form being
opened that can be called and a pointer passed in, or the form being opened
has to reach back to the opening form and ask for the pointer to itself.  

The other way is to have the calling form to store the pointer to the form,
but now the calling form has to close the new form by setting the pointer to
nothing.

Does all this make sense?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: William Thompson [mailto:william.thompson1 at att.net]
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:24 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Finite instances of form in Edit, Add modes -
Close cmdButton?


Hi,
I have a SQL Server front-end that has to be a minimal code solution, and I
wanted to open a form, form_someform, with openargs "Edit" or "Add".

I don't want the user to have to 'x' out to close the form instance.  There
would only be the two additional instances.

My question is how to handle the close button in the new instance.  Am I
correct to presume that I have to pass the new instance a reference to
itself in order to hand control back to the caller?

The call to open the instance would be something like

Dim frmSomeTable As Form_SomeTable

 Set frmSomeTable = New Form_SomeTable

Form_SomeTable.Setfocus

Set Form_SomeTable = Nothing

''' I think the new instance needs a Method like

public sub InstanceIt(TheCaller as form)
    
    Set m_frmThis = Me
    
    Set m_frmCaller = TheCaller
    
    Me.Visible = True

end sub

''' So eventually I'd like to somehow have a command button that closes the
form sort of like..

Private Sub cmdCloseThis()

'''	Set m_frmThis = Nothing

''' Or I guess it has to be
''' HandItBackToTheCaller
me.Hide

m_frmCaller.SetFocus

End Sub

''' Caller's Code continued ...
Set Form_SomeTable = Nothing

This won't work though will it ?  I'm a little fuzzy on it, any help
appreciated.

Bill

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Nov 19 10:28:20 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 08:28:20 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B88@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Switch to VB.Net and XML?  (well, it IS Friday) :-}

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 7:44 AM
To: Database Advisors
Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something


I have a client who would like their system to be able to present
reports in different languages, based on a selection made on-screen by
the reader.  How would I get started making this happen?  

 

Thanks,

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems

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From artful at rogers.com  Fri Nov 19 10:28:07 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 11:28:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?
In-Reply-To: <s19c8e67.028@cactus.dk>
References: <s19c8e67.028@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <419E1F17.4060700@rogers.com>

I wouldn't be quite that hasty, Gustav. You are of course correct that 
UNIONs are read-only, but you can certainly grab the PK, pop up a form 
that permits the update, and Refresh rather than Requery. I've done this 
particular thing several times and it works a treat.

Arthur

Gustav Brock wrote:

>Hi Andy
> 
>No, unions are read-only. If you can't go the update-behind-requery
>route, I guess you are left with the temp table.
> 
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>andy at minstersystems.co.uk 18-11-2004 10:09:56 >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>
>Morning all
>I've a continuous screen which needs to list two types of order in
>date
>sequence. These are held on separate tables. No problem, a UNION query
>does
>the job fine. However the user has to tick an order to say it's
>despatched,
>and then the screen needs to show that information, but the recordset
>is not
>updatable. Presumably this applies to all UNION queries does it? Does
>anyone
>have a way round this or do I have to go to extracting to a temp table
>and
>all that jazz?
>
>By the way it's not practical to upodate the underlying tables and
>requery
>to display the depatch info because there's a lot of data on screen
>and
>requerying takes too long.
>
>--
>Andy Lacey
>http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>
>  
>


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Nov 19 10:30:56 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 08:30:56 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B89@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Unions are not updatable by definition, Susan, no matter what tricks you
use.  In a Union, there is no distinction between the tables the fields
come from and the names don't even have to match,just the datatypes, so
there's no way to update any of the data.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 6:13 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?


There is some odd trick in the back of my mind that I just can't quite
remember... 

Is there some trick about adding ALL to a UNION that makes it
updateable? I know, I'm probably crackers -- and I'm probably confusing
this with something else. 

All of my books are in storage and I can't even try to look it up. :( 

Susan H. 

Andy,

This might sound like dancing around this issue...but could you have
user click on the record to be updated...open a second query/form for
just that record...save the record...and the give a message, "Your
update has been saved and will be reflected next time you refresh the
screen".


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Nov 19 10:37:18 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 08:37:18 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ActiveX control for capturing a signature?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B8A@infoserver01.infostat.local>

You need additional hardware to capture the signature.  The kind of
hardware determines the software and the OCX you use.  We use the Topaz
SigLite pads, chosen in part because they are compatible with Access and
their support is good.  Warning:  programming this stuff and making it
work is tricky!  There are also security considerations.  Are the users
willing to have their signatures stored somewhere for an indeterminate
period and with unknown security?  We store sigs only long enough to
produce PDF documents containing the signed reports and then destroy the
signature string, which is captured in a table.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 6:04 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] ActiveX control for capturing a signature?


A client of mine has cobbled together a rickety Access app that runs on
a touch screen monitor.  He has his customers fill out a customer
satisfactions surveyo it by pressing buttons to select 1-10 ratings on
various elements of his service.  It's pretty clever.

However, he's not content to stop there.  He wants to provide a stylus
and have the customer sign their name to the survey right there on the
screen, and have the signatuire be stored as an OLE Object or as an
image file someplace..

I'm sure there's got to be an ActiveX control out there that will
capture this kind of input.  But I don't even know where to start
looking for it. 

Anyone do anything like this before?

-Chistopher-
Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Nov 19 10:39:23 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 08:39:23 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B8B@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Are they paying them many salaries as well?  Unless they're storing a
job history, many titles doesn't make sense to me.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhla at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:11 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


The Situation

On an inherited database the client has a single Employees form that
lists the with a text box for job title.

They want to have one employee with many job titles. I am trying to add
a sub form continuous view with a combo box.

 

 

SELECT stblEmpJobTitle.EmpID, stblEmpJobTitle.JobTitleID, [Job
Title].JobTitle

FROM [Job Title] LEFT JOIN stblEmpJobTitle ON [Job Title].JobTitleID =
stblEmpJobTitle.JobTitleID

WHERE (((stblEmpJobTitle.EmpID)=[Forms]![Employees]![EmpID]));

I need to not only show current job title but also assign new ones. When
I go to the next combo box it already has the existing job.

 

Looking for some help here please. 

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net 

 



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Nov 19 10:40:23 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 11:40:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?
In-Reply-To: <35C4AC5A5AFD9642833200159C258156A32C7D@s98026.psd.caremark.int>
Message-ID: <20041119164047.HUBM2443.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Yeah, I just have this nagging little "tip" that I can't seem to fully
remember -- and it may not have anything to do with making UNION updateable,
but rather using UNION in some other non-traditional manner. I hate having
everything boxed up. :( 

Susan H. 

IIRC, UNION ALL doesn't make the query updateable, it just returns all
records from the unioned tables, without eliminating duplicate records.




From JColby at dispec.com  Fri Nov 19 10:49:39 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 11:49:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF99C@DISABILITYINS01>

Many years ago I bought a library of functions for Turbo Pascal (I believe)
- the person who wrote it had the title(s) President and Chief Bottle
Washer.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


Are they paying them many salaries as well?  Unless they're storing a
job history, many titles doesn't make sense to me.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhla at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:11 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


The Situation

On an inherited database the client has a single Employees form that
lists the with a text box for job title.

They want to have one employee with many job titles. I am trying to add
a sub form continuous view with a combo box.

 

 

SELECT stblEmpJobTitle.EmpID, stblEmpJobTitle.JobTitleID, [Job
Title].JobTitle

FROM [Job Title] LEFT JOIN stblEmpJobTitle ON [Job Title].JobTitleID =
stblEmpJobTitle.JobTitleID

WHERE (((stblEmpJobTitle.EmpID)=[Forms]![Employees]![EmpID]));

I need to not only show current job title but also assign new ones. When
I go to the next combo box it already has the existing job.

 

Looking for some help here please. 

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net 

 

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Nov 19 10:52:39 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 17:52:39 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?
Message-ID: <s19e3304.024@cactus.dk>

Hi Andy 
 
OK, if that works, Andy would be fine. 
I haven't tried myself, just noted that a requery was out of the
qestion:
 
>By the way it's not practical to upodate the underlying tables and
requery
>to display the depatch info because there's a lot of data on screen
and
>requerying takes too long.

/gustav

>>> artful at rogers.com 19-11-2004 17:28:07 >>>

I wouldn't be quite that hasty, Gustav. You are of course correct that

UNIONs are read-only, but you can certainly grab the PK, pop up a form

that permits the update, and Refresh rather than Requery. I've done
this 
particular thing several times and it works a treat.

Arthur

Gustav Brock wrote:

>Hi Andy
> 
>No, unions are read-only. If you can't go the update-behind-requery
>route, I guess you are left with the temp table.
> 
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>andy at minstersystems.co.uk 18-11-2004 10:09:56 >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>
>Morning all
>I've a continuous screen which needs to list two types of order in
>date
>sequence. These are held on separate tables. No problem, a UNION
query
>does
>the job fine. However the user has to tick an order to say it's
>despatched,
>and then the screen needs to show that information, but the recordset
>is not
>updatable. Presumably this applies to all UNION queries does it? Does
>anyone
>have a way round this or do I have to go to extracting to a temp
table
>and
>all that jazz?
>
>By the way it's not practical to upodate the underlying tables and
>requery
>to display the depatch info because there's a lot of data on screen
>and
>requerying takes too long.
>
>--
>Andy Lacey
>http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



From jmhla at earthlink.net  Fri Nov 19 10:50:54 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 08:50:54 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B8B@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <200411191652.iAJGqwL31758@databaseadvisors.com>

Hey Charlotte,

I doubt it but I have a signed work order and a third person paying me so I
feel secure.

Joe Hecht
jmhla at earthlink.net
28g

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 8:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem

Are they paying them many salaries as well?  Unless they're storing a
job history, many titles doesn't make sense to me.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhla at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:11 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


The Situation

On an inherited database the client has a single Employees form that
lists the with a text box for job title.

They want to have one employee with many job titles. I am trying to add
a sub form continuous view with a combo box.

 

 

SELECT stblEmpJobTitle.EmpID, stblEmpJobTitle.JobTitleID, [Job
Title].JobTitle

FROM [Job Title] LEFT JOIN stblEmpJobTitle ON [Job Title].JobTitleID =
stblEmpJobTitle.JobTitleID

WHERE (((stblEmpJobTitle.EmpID)=[Forms]![Employees]![EmpID]));

I need to not only show current job title but also assign new ones. When
I go to the next combo box it already has the existing job.

 

Looking for some help here please. 

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net 

 

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Nov 19 11:28:26 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 09:28:26 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B8C@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Are you thinking of the tip on using a UNION to add an "ALL" selection
to a dropdown list?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 8:40 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?


Yeah, I just have this nagging little "tip" that I can't seem to fully
remember -- and it may not have anything to do with making UNION
updateable, but rather using UNION in some other non-traditional manner.
I hate having everything boxed up. :( 

Susan H. 

IIRC, UNION ALL doesn't make the query updateable, it just returns all
records from the unioned tables, without eliminating duplicate records.


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Nov 19 11:30:30 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 09:30:30 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B8D@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Yes, and I was formerly a Vice President/Corporate Secretary, but that
wasn't considered more than a single title.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 8:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


Many years ago I bought a library of functions for Turbo Pascal (I
believe)
- the person who wrote it had the title(s) President and Chief Bottle
Washer.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


Are they paying them many salaries as well?  Unless they're storing a
job history, many titles doesn't make sense to me.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhla at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:11 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


The Situation

On an inherited database the client has a single Employees form that
lists the with a text box for job title.

They want to have one employee with many job titles. I am trying to add
a sub form continuous view with a combo box.

 

 

SELECT stblEmpJobTitle.EmpID, stblEmpJobTitle.JobTitleID, [Job
Title].JobTitle

FROM [Job Title] LEFT JOIN stblEmpJobTitle ON [Job Title].JobTitleID =
stblEmpJobTitle.JobTitleID

WHERE (((stblEmpJobTitle.EmpID)=[Forms]![Employees]![EmpID]));

I need to not only show current job title but also assign new ones. When
I go to the next combo box it already has the existing job.

 

Looking for some help here please. 

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net 

 

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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Fri Nov 19 11:27:52 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:27:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74486B31@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

We have two of everything here at this point.  Pick the language, print the correct version report.

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:28 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
Something


Switch to VB.Net and XML?  (well, it IS Friday) :-}

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 7:44 AM
To: Database Advisors
Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something


I have a client who would like their system to be able to present
reports in different languages, based on a selection made on-screen by
the reader.  How would I get started making this happen?  

 

Thanks,

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems

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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Fri Nov 19 11:43:43 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 11:43:43 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something
In-Reply-To: <200411191729.iAJHTDL09065@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041119114207.03b1e520@pop3.highstream.net>

Or, start translating the reports and installing new
fonts if they are required for the language.  Then,
get ready to run the reports from their own MDB
because of the number of them.

Robert

At 11:29 AM 11/19/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 08:28:20 -0800
>From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
>         Something
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID:
>         <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B88 at infoserver01.infostat.local>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>Switch to VB.Net and XML?  (well, it IS Friday) :-}
>
>Charlotte Foust
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com]
>Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 7:44 AM
>To: Database Advisors
>Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something
>
>
>I have a client who would like their system to be able to present
>reports in different languages, based on a selection made on-screen by
>the reader.  How would I get started making this happen?
>
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Dan Waters
>
>ProMation Systems




From donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com  Fri Nov 19 11:53:44 2004
From: donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com (Mcgillivray, Donald [ITS])
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 11:53:44 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Need a summary query to return more than one record for
	amember of a group
Message-ID: <988E2AC88CCB54459286C4077DB662F502858655@PDAWB03C.ad.sprint.com>

Thanks, Gustav!  That should do the trick.  Never thought of using the
Top N in this way.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 10:07 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Need a summary query to return more than one record
for amember of a group


Hi Don
 
You need to, for each record, look up the date/time of the next entry
and calculate the minutes:
 
  lngMinutes: DateDiff("n", InsertTime, (Select Top 1 T.InsertTime From
tblTable As T Where T.InsertTime > tblTable.InsertTime Order By
T.InsertTime Asc)
 
The sum the minutes by grouping in another query where you use the
above as source.
 
/gustav

>>> donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com 18-11-2004 18:11:37 >>>

Hi, All

I have a table of data, populated by an automated mail insertion
system,
containing the following fields:

JobID 
MachineID
OperatorID
PieceID
InsertTime (Date + Time)

The system writes a record for each piece that is inserted by the
system.  Typically, there will be a single operator working a job on a
machine, but on larger jobs an operator's shift may be interrupted by
another operator (relief during breaks, technicians making
adjustments,
repairs, etc.)  When these interruptions occur, the interrupter logs
in
and any work processed during the interruption is logged under the
interrupter's ID.  Then when the original operator returns, s/he logs
in
and subsequent work is logged under that ID.  A summary query grouped
on
JobID, MachineID, and OperatorID, with count of PieceID and min and
max
of InsertTime gives me a single record for each operator showing piece
count and start and end time.  However, the delta between the min and
max times does not reflect the actual elapsed time for each, since the
original operator's min and max times encompass the period when the
interrupter was logged in as well.  

I know I could loop thru the records incrementing counters and write a
record to a table when a change in operator is detected, but my
preference is to capture elapsed run time for each operator using a
single query.  Anybody know if/how I can return more than one record
for
a member of a group in a summary query?

Don McGillivray
Sprint Mailing Services

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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Fri Nov 19 11:53:27 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:53:27 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C43C@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

They do things a little different in California, I hear.  Maybe it is
for the cross-whatevers to accommodate their two identities.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 12:31 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


Yes, and I was formerly a Vice President/Corporate Secretary, but that
wasn't considered more than a single title.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 8:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


Many years ago I bought a library of functions for Turbo Pascal (I
believe)
- the person who wrote it had the title(s) President and Chief Bottle
Washer.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


Are they paying them many salaries as well?  Unless they're storing a
job history, many titles doesn't make sense to me.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhla at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:11 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


The Situation

On an inherited database the client has a single Employees form that
lists the with a text box for job title.

They want to have one employee with many job titles. I am trying to add
a sub form continuous view with a combo box.

 

 

SELECT stblEmpJobTitle.EmpID, stblEmpJobTitle.JobTitleID, [Job
Title].JobTitle

FROM [Job Title] LEFT JOIN stblEmpJobTitle ON [Job Title].JobTitleID =
stblEmpJobTitle.JobTitleID

WHERE (((stblEmpJobTitle.EmpID)=[Forms]![Employees]![EmpID]));

I need to not only show current job title but also assign new ones. When
I go to the next combo box it already has the existing job.

 

Looking for some help here please. 

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net 

 

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Fri Nov 19 12:22:33 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:22:33 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C43C@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <200411191824.iAJIOYL07083@databaseadvisors.com>

The cross rookie programmers?

Joe Hecht
jmhla at earthlink.net
28g

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 9:53 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem

They do things a little different in California, I hear.  Maybe it is
for the cross-whatevers to accommodate their two identities.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 12:31 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


Yes, and I was formerly a Vice President/Corporate Secretary, but that
wasn't considered more than a single title.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 8:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


Many years ago I bought a library of functions for Turbo Pascal (I
believe)
- the person who wrote it had the title(s) President and Chief Bottle
Washer.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


Are they paying them many salaries as well?  Unless they're storing a
job history, many titles doesn't make sense to me.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhla at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:11 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


The Situation

On an inherited database the client has a single Employees form that
lists the with a text box for job title.

They want to have one employee with many job titles. I am trying to add
a sub form continuous view with a combo box.

 

 

SELECT stblEmpJobTitle.EmpID, stblEmpJobTitle.JobTitleID, [Job
Title].JobTitle

FROM [Job Title] LEFT JOIN stblEmpJobTitle ON [Job Title].JobTitleID =
stblEmpJobTitle.JobTitleID

WHERE (((stblEmpJobTitle.EmpID)=[Forms]![Employees]![EmpID]));

I need to not only show current job title but also assign new ones. When
I go to the next combo box it already has the existing job.

 

Looking for some help here please. 

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net 

 

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Fri Nov 19 12:32:46 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:32:46 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C43C@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <200411191834.iAJIYlL18698@databaseadvisors.com>

They weren't before but they are now.
Joe Hecht
jmhla at earthlink.net
28g

From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


Are they paying them many salaries as well?  Unless they're storing a
job history, many titles doesn't make sense to me.

Charlotte Foust
ite: http://www.databaseadvisors.com




From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Nov 19 12:42:44 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:42:44 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something
References: <000e01c4ce4e$8a192090$de1811d8@danwaters>
Message-ID: <419E3EA4.2070408@shaw.ca>

I use French English Data Entry for Access occasionally in programs for 
Canadian Federal Gov't requirements.

For starters you want to setup your keyboard for multilanguage input.
Go to Control panel Regional  Language Setting , Select Language Tab, 
Click Details
Now select the language HeHeehee, this is where your problems start.
There are 18 Regional versions of Spanish available.
Okay so select one. Then choose where you want the language selection 
bar to appear floating at top of screen or in  taskbar
Check em all off till you are comfortable with one
Also click Key Settings to allow switching language setting from 
keyboard, I use Alt-LeftShift.
I have code lying around that allows you to interrogate the language bar 
from vba code and switch it. This allows bilingual form data entry.
Now you can enter headers in design mode etc for seperate reports in 
whatever language via Unicode
Different languages require you to perhaps change positions on reports, 
ie German words are 30% longer than English.
I guess you will have to discuss with your client how to handle detail 
lines from tables
Does she want a Spanish translation of Widgets to appear. El Widget? or 
La Widget.
There are some automatic translation programs that may help here in 
$1000 range.

Then you will have to change your queries and tables to handle this.
Just hope they don't want time and currency formats changed.

Bonne Chance. Buena Suerte

Dan Waters wrote:

>I have a client who would like their system to be able to present
>reports in different languages, based on a selection made on-screen by
>the reader.  How would I get started making this happen?  
>
> 
>
>Thanks,
>
>Dan Waters
>
>ProMation Systems
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Nov 19 12:50:28 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:50:28 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B89@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <20041119185105.HMAY2410.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I know, I know, I know... ;) 

Still, something is nagging at me. 

In the middle of the night, it will rush into my head, wake me up and I will
realize it had nothing at all to do with the subject at hand. <groan>

Susan H. 

Unions are not updatable by definition, Susan, no matter what tricks you
use.  In a Union, there is no distinction between the tables the fields come
from and the names don't even have to match,just the datatypes, so there's
no way to update any of the data.




From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Nov 19 12:53:27 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:53:27 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B8E@infoserver01.infostat.local>

No, it's the veteran programmers who get cross.  The rookies don't know
enough to be cranky! 

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhla at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:23 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


The cross rookie programmers?

Joe Hecht
jmhla at earthlink.net
28g

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 9:53 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem

They do things a little different in California, I hear.  Maybe it is
for the cross-whatevers to accommodate their two identities.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 12:31 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


Yes, and I was formerly a Vice President/Corporate Secretary, but that
wasn't considered more than a single title.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 8:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


Many years ago I bought a library of functions for Turbo Pascal (I
believe)
- the person who wrote it had the title(s) President and Chief Bottle
Washer.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


Are they paying them many salaries as well?  Unless they're storing a
job history, many titles doesn't make sense to me.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhla at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:11 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Form Sub form Problem


The Situation

On an inherited database the client has a single Employees form that
lists the with a text box for job title.

They want to have one employee with many job titles. I am trying to add
a sub form continuous view with a combo box.

 

 

SELECT stblEmpJobTitle.EmpID, stblEmpJobTitle.JobTitleID, [Job
Title].JobTitle

FROM [Job Title] LEFT JOIN stblEmpJobTitle ON [Job Title].JobTitleID =
stblEmpJobTitle.JobTitleID

WHERE (((stblEmpJobTitle.EmpID)=[Forms]![Employees]![EmpID]));

I need to not only show current job title but also assign new ones. When
I go to the next combo box it already has the existing job.

 

Looking for some help here please. 

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net 

 

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Nov 19 13:39:30 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 14:39:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B8C@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <20041119194006.FXYR2400.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

No, but possible the trick of adding ALL to UNION to speed it up -- maybe...
Who knows... I have a bad headache. :) Mixed up Access tips often dance
around in my head when I have a headache. :) 

Susan H. 

Are you thinking of the tip on using a UNION to add an "ALL" selection to a
dropdown list?




From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Fri Nov 19 13:51:12 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:51:12 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS - Repost
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233723A@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

re: "lost messages" they are probably up on some screen of an overworked
security analyst in Homeland security who is trying to decide if they are OK
to let through.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com]
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 7:48 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS - Repost


Darren,

I'm glad you actually got the post.  I still haven't seen either of my posts
from this thread:(  I truly believe I am missing a growing number of posts
from my dba lists, but I haven't got a clue as to why or if there is a
pattern emerging.

Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: Darren DICK [mailto:d.dick at uws.edu.au] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 5:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS - Repost


Hi Mark
Perfect - Excellent bit of work
Many thanks

Darren
 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
Sent: Friday, 19 November 2004 2:46 AM
To: [AccessD]
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS - Repost

Darren,

When doing maintenance on my departmental website, I use Xenu's Link Sleuth.
I am fairly certain that it is still free to download.
http://home.snafu.de/tilman/xenulink.html  Not only can it verify links
within a website, but for you purposes I believe it will verify a simple
text listing of URLs.

It is extremely fast.


Mark
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Fri Nov 19 14:49:19 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 14:49:19 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something
In-Reply-To: <29937037.1100885921698.JavaMail.root@sniper17.securence.com>
Message-ID: <001001c4ce79$3de4dc70$de1811d8@danwaters>

Jim,

Are your reports partially translated on the fly?  If not it seems that
you would need to have your original text information recorded in two
separate places - one for each language?

If on the fly how is this done?

Dan

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:28 AM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
Something

We have two of everything here at this point.  Pick the language, print
the correct version report.

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:28 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
Something


Switch to VB.Net and XML?  (well, it IS Friday) :-}

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 7:44 AM
To: Database Advisors
Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something


I have a client who would like their system to be able to present
reports in different languages, based on a selection made on-screen by
the reader.  How would I get started making this happen?  

 

Thanks,

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems

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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Fri Nov 19 15:01:28 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 16:01:28 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS - Repost
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F3398D@nprdex02.nns.com>

;) Sad that it could be true...maybe not today, but someday...


Mark

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From: Hale, Jim [mailto:Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 2:51 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS - Repost


re: "lost messages" they are probably up on some screen of an overworked
security analyst in Homeland security who is trying to decide if they are OK
to let through.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com]
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 7:48 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS - Repost


Darren,

I'm glad you actually got the post.  I still haven't seen either of my posts
from this thread:(  I truly believe I am missing a growing number of posts
from my dba lists, but I haven't got a clue as to why or if there is a
pattern emerging.

Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: Darren DICK [mailto:d.dick at uws.edu.au] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 5:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS - Repost


Hi Mark
Perfect - Excellent bit of work
Many thanks

Darren
 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
Sent: Friday, 19 November 2004 2:46 AM
To: [AccessD]
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Test Voracity of URLS - Repost

Darren,

When doing maintenance on my departmental website, I use Xenu's Link Sleuth.
I am fairly certain that it is still free to download.
http://home.snafu.de/tilman/xenulink.html  Not only can it verify links
within a website, but for you purposes I believe it will verify a simple
text listing of URLs.

It is extremely fast.


Mark
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From pcs at azizaz.com  Fri Nov 19 17:44:41 2004
From: pcs at azizaz.com (Borge Hansen)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 09:44:41 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Triple State Check Box 
References: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F3398D@nprdex02.nns.com>
Message-ID: <005001c4ce91$c05aea60$fa10a8c0@Albatross>

Hi,
I've been playing around with the triple state property of a checkbox on a
bound multirecord subform bound to a Yes/No field in the backend table.

To make it work I finally had to bind the check box control to a field with
a different datatype.
It's now bound to an integer field
with default value of 'null'
and validation rule set to: 'Between -1 And 0 Or Is Null' .

Now it works.

But : Is that the (only) way to do it, or have I overlooked something?

Regards
Borge


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From william.thompson1 at att.net  Fri Nov 19 19:51:52 2004
From: william.thompson1 at att.net (william.thompson1 at att.net)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 01:51:52 +0000
Subject: [AccessD]  Finite instances of form in Edit,
	Add modes - Close cmdButton?
Message-ID: <112020040151.12465.419EA337000D5E16000030B12160280741CE02019C9F0301089BD2030E0704040799@att.net>

Yes, that does make sense.  I think what threw me at first was seeing 'SetFocus' as in:
set ....etc
Form_FrmSome.Setfocus

I realize now that's how control is passed to the instance.  The visible property happens later, and in the new instance itself.

me.visible = true

I understand now that a Public Function is built in the new instance form, which allows it to retain a reference to itself, and that a reference could not be passed via openargs.  Another part of this that is always tricky for me is that a form's Public Function can be called when it is not loaded.  It's not hidden in this pristine state, yet it remains unloaded and can cycle through records.

I think ideally I'd like to have, as you describe, the close button set the reference = nothing

Thanks,
Bill

-------------- Original message from "Colby, John" <JColby at dispec.com>: -------------- 


> A form opened in this manner has to have a pointer to the form stored 
> somewhere in order to remain open. As soon as the last pointer to that form 
> is set to nothing, the form will close. 
> 
> One way to keep the form open is to pass the pointer to the form in to the 
> form, where it stores the pointer to itself in its header. The close button 
> does nothing more than set that pointer = nothing. That allows the form to 
> close itself. 
> 
> It is not possible to pass pointers as openagrs, the data type of an openarg 
> is a string. Thus you have to build a public function in the form being 
> opened that can be called and a pointer passed in, or the form being opened 
> has to reach back to the opening form and ask for the pointer to itself. 
> 
> The other way is to have the calling form to store the pointer to the form, 
> but now the calling form has to close the new form by setting the pointer to 
> nothing. 
> 
> Does all this make sense? 
> 
> John W. Colby 
> The DIS Database Guy 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: William Thompson [mailto:william.thompson1 at att.net] 
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:24 AM 
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Finite instances of form in Edit, Add modes - 
> Close cmdButton? 
> 
> 
> Hi, 
> I have a SQL Server front-end that has to be a minimal code solution, and I 
> wanted to open a form, form_someform, with openargs "Edit" or "Add". 
> 
> I don't want the user to have to 'x' out to close the form instance. There 
> would only be the two additional instances. 
> 
> My question is how to handle the close button in the new instance. Am I 
> correct to presume that I have to pass the new instance a reference to 
> itself in order to hand control back to the caller? 
> 
> The call to open the instance would be something like 
> 
> Dim frmSomeTable As Form_SomeTable 
> 
> Set frmSomeTable = New Form_SomeTable 
> 
> Form_SomeTable.Setfocus 
> 
> Set Form_SomeTable = Nothing 
> 
> ''' I think the new instance needs a Method like 
> 
> public sub InstanceIt(TheCaller as form) 
> 
> Set m_frmThis = Me 
> 
> Set m_frmCaller = TheCaller 
> 
> Me.Visible = True 
> 
> end sub 
> 
> ''' So eventually I'd like to somehow have a command button that closes the 
> form sort of like.. 
> 
> Private Sub cmdCloseThis() 
> 
> ''' Set m_frmThis = Nothing 
> 
> ''' Or I guess it has to be 
> ''' HandItBackToTheCaller 
> me.Hide 
> 
> m_frmCaller.SetFocus 
> 
> End Sub 
> 
> ''' Caller's Code continued ... 
> Set Form_SomeTable = Nothing 
> 
> This won't work though will it ? I'm a little fuzzy on it, any help 
> appreciated. 
> 
> Bill 
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From lmrazek at lcm-res.com  Sat Nov 20 07:44:46 2004
From: lmrazek at lcm-res.com (Lawrence Mrazek)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 07:44:46 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] ActiveX Charting Control For Access?
In-Reply-To: <112020040151.12465.419EA337000D5E16000030B12160280741CE02019C9F0301089BD2030E0704040799@att.net>
Message-ID: <200411200844478.SM01080@hplaptop>

 Hi:

Does anyone have recommendations regarding charting/graphing software for
Access XP? I'm currently a bit annoyed with the built-in charting
capabilities for Access; it doesn't do the things I need (or at least I
can't discover how to do it).

Basically, I just need a flexible solution to create bar/line/pie graphs.
The component should have the following features:

1. Ability to set colors (EX: Everytime I graph maintenance code "05", I'd
like it to be RED) via code. (this is my main problem with Microsoft Graph
right now).

2. Flexible labeling capabilities.

3. Compatible with Access XP.

4. Good output options ... Most of the graphs/charts will be printed.

Thanks in advance for any help/advice.  

Larry Mrazek
LCM Research, Inc.
www.lcm-res.com
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Nov 20 08:21:14 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 09:21:14 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Norton av
Message-ID: <000e01c4cf0c$343b8690$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Does anyone know how to get nav to just quietly quarantine virus messages?
For some reason my new address got on a virus writer's list and I am getting
10 a day - all from .de email address.  I'd like to have nav just stop
telling me about the viruses and just quarantine them.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sat Nov 20 11:43:34 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 11:43:34 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Change SubDatasheetName to [None] in code?
Message-ID: <000001c4cf28$758a0ec0$de1811d8@danwaters>

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!

 

I want to write a utility sub to change the SubDatasheetName property in
tables to [None].  I'm trying to use the code below, but get an error of
'The object is closed or does not exist' at the code line beginning Set
prp =.  The table is open and in Design view.

 

    Dim obj As AccessObject

    Dim prp As DAO.Property

    Dim stgName As String

    

    For Each obj In CurrentData.AllTables

        stgName = obj.Name

        DoCmd.OpenTable stgName, acViewDesign, acEdit

        Set prp = obj.CreateProperty("SubDatasheetName", dbText,
"[None]")

        DoCmd.Close acTable, stgName, acSaveYes

    Next

 

Can this be done?

 

Thanks,

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems, Inc.



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Nov 20 12:42:22 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 19:42:22 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Change SubDatasheetName to [None] in code?
Message-ID: <s19f9e2e.035@cactus.dk>

Hi Dan
 
Here is how Kath Pelletti did a year ago:
 
Function TurnOffSubDataSheets()
  Dim MyDB As DAO.Database
  Dim MyProperty As DAO.Property
  
  Dim propName As String
  Dim PropType As Integer
  Dim propVal As String
  
  Dim strS As String
  
  Set MyDB = CurrentDb
  
  propName = "SubDataSheetName"
  PropType = 10
  propVal = "[NONE]"
  
  On Error Resume Next
  
  For I = 0 To MyDB.TableDefs.Count - 1
      
      If (MyDB.TableDefs(I).Attributes And dbSystemObject) = 0 Then
 
          If MyDB.TableDefs(I).Properties(propName).Value <> propVal
Then
             MyDB.TableDefs(I).Properties(propName).Value = propVal
             intChangedTables = intChangedTables + 1
          End If
 
          If Err.Number = 3270 Then
             Set MyProperty =
MyDB.TableDefs(I).CreateProperty(propName)
             MyProperty.Type = PropType
             MyProperty.Value = propVal
             MyDB.TableDefs(I).Properties.Append MyProperty
          Else
             If Err.Number <> 0 Then
                 MsgBox "Error: " & Err.Number & " on Table " _
                 & MyDB.TableDefs(I).Name & "."
                 MyDB.Close
                 Exit Function
             End If
          End If
          
      End If
  Next I
 
MsgBox "The " & propName & _
" value for all non-system tables has been updated to " & propVal &
"."
 
MyDB.Close
 
End Function

/gustav

>>> dwaters at usinternet.com 20-11-2004 18:43:34 >>>

I want to write a utility sub to change the SubDatasheetName property
in
tables to [None].  I'm trying to use the code below, but get an error
of
'The object is closed or does not exist' at the code line beginning
Set
prp =.  The table is open and in Design view.

    Dim obj As AccessObject

    Dim prp As DAO.Property

    Dim stgName As String

      For Each obj In CurrentData.AllTables

        stgName = obj.Name

        DoCmd.OpenTable stgName, acViewDesign, acEdit

        Set prp = obj.CreateProperty("SubDatasheetName", dbText,
"[None]")

        DoCmd.Close acTable, stgName, acSaveYes

    Next

Can this be done?

Thanks,

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems, Inc.



From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sat Nov 20 13:10:21 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 13:10:21 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Change SubDatasheetName to [None] in code?
In-Reply-To: <25131053.1100976769639.JavaMail.root@sniper17.securence.com>
Message-ID: <000001c4cf34$950fdbb0$de1811d8@danwaters>

Thanks Gustav! (and Kath)!

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 12:42 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Change SubDatasheetName to [None] in code?

Hi Dan
 
Here is how Kath Pelletti did a year ago:
 
Function TurnOffSubDataSheets()
  Dim MyDB As DAO.Database
  Dim MyProperty As DAO.Property
  
  Dim propName As String
  Dim PropType As Integer
  Dim propVal As String
  
  Dim strS As String
  
  Set MyDB = CurrentDb
  
  propName = "SubDataSheetName"
  PropType = 10
  propVal = "[NONE]"
  
  On Error Resume Next
  
  For I = 0 To MyDB.TableDefs.Count - 1
      
      If (MyDB.TableDefs(I).Attributes And dbSystemObject) = 0 Then
 
          If MyDB.TableDefs(I).Properties(propName).Value <> propVal
Then
             MyDB.TableDefs(I).Properties(propName).Value = propVal
             intChangedTables = intChangedTables + 1
          End If
 
          If Err.Number = 3270 Then
             Set MyProperty =
MyDB.TableDefs(I).CreateProperty(propName)
             MyProperty.Type = PropType
             MyProperty.Value = propVal
             MyDB.TableDefs(I).Properties.Append MyProperty
          Else
             If Err.Number <> 0 Then
                 MsgBox "Error: " & Err.Number & " on Table " _
                 & MyDB.TableDefs(I).Name & "."
                 MyDB.Close
                 Exit Function
             End If
          End If
          
      End If
  Next I
 
MsgBox "The " & propName & _
" value for all non-system tables has been updated to " & propVal &
"."
 
MyDB.Close
 
End Function

/gustav

>>> dwaters at usinternet.com 20-11-2004 18:43:34 >>>

I want to write a utility sub to change the SubDatasheetName property
in
tables to [None].  I'm trying to use the code below, but get an error
of
'The object is closed or does not exist' at the code line beginning
Set
prp =.  The table is open and in Design view.

    Dim obj As AccessObject

    Dim prp As DAO.Property

    Dim stgName As String

      For Each obj In CurrentData.AllTables

        stgName = obj.Name

        DoCmd.OpenTable stgName, acViewDesign, acEdit

        Set prp = obj.CreateProperty("SubDatasheetName", dbText,
"[None]")

        DoCmd.Close acTable, stgName, acSaveYes

    Next

Can this be done?

Thanks,

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems, Inc.

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From lists at theopg.com  Wed Nov 17 12:05:52 2004
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 18:05:52 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Accessing data in secured mdb from another secured mdb on
	a different workgroup
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20041116135414.01419f28@pop3.highstream.net>
Message-ID: <000001c4ccd0$147c70a0$0e0b6bd5@netboxxp>

Hello All

Using AXP on WinXP

I have two databases secured on different workgroups and accessed from
different front ends. I need to be able to import data from one into the
other but am having problems as they are secured on different mdw's. I
could merge the two mdw's but that would be a bit of a pain.

Anyone know a simple solution?

Thanks in advance

Mark

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From john at winhaven.net  Sat Nov 20 19:00:21 2004
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 19:00:21 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Norton av
In-Reply-To: <000e01c4cf0c$343b8690$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKIEEBLGDAA.john@winhaven.net>

Depends on the version but in the last couple of them you go into NAV then
click options then email then "try to repair, if unsuccessful quietly
delete".

HTH
John B.


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Subject: [AccessD] Norton av


Does anyone know how to get nav to just quietly quarantine virus messages?
For some reason my new address got on a virus writer's list and I am getting
10 a day - all from .de email address.  I'd like to have nav just stop
telling me about the viruses and just quarantine them.

John W. Colby
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Nov 20 19:55:35 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 17:55:35 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Norton av
In-Reply-To: <000e01c4cf0c$343b8690$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIMEGNCIAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi John:

Just add the particular .de mail to your junk email list and aim it straight
to the Deleted Items folder.

HTH
Jim

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Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 6:21 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Norton av


Does anyone know how to get nav to just quietly quarantine virus messages?
For some reason my new address got on a virus writer's list and I am getting
10 a day - all from .de email address.  I'd like to have nav just stop
telling me about the viruses and just quarantine them.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Nov 20 20:21:05 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 21:21:05 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Norton av
In-Reply-To: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIMEGNCIAA.accessd@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <001a01c4cf70$c16476d0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Id have to do the entire domain.  The address is no doubt spoofed and coming
from a different address every time.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 8:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Norton av


Hi John:

Just add the particular .de mail to your junk email list and aim it straight
to the Deleted Items folder.

HTH
Jim

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Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 6:21 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Norton av


Does anyone know how to get nav to just quietly quarantine virus messages?
For some reason my new address got on a virus writer's list and I am getting
10 a day - all from .de email address.  I'd like to have nav just stop
telling me about the viruses and just quarantine them.

John W. Colby
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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sat Nov 20 22:28:14 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 20:28:14 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] x posted Get name for message box
Message-ID: <000001c4cf82$87391620$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

I have the following code for the on click event of a form. I want to
replace " this employee " with the current employee name on the form.

 

How do I do that?

 

Private Sub cmdDelEmp_Click()

    ' Comments  Confirm Employeee Deletion:

    ' Parameters:  -

    ' Modified  :

    Dim lngRetval As Long

 

    lngRetval = MsgBox( _

        "You have chosen to delete this employee!" & vbCrLf & "" & vbCrLf &
"Do you wish to continue?", _

        vbYesNoCancel + vbQuestion + vbSystemModal + vbDefaultButton1, _

        "Confirm Emplyee Deletion")

 

    Select Case lngRetval

        Case vbYes

             DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 8, , acMenuVer70

             DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 6, , acMenuVer70

        

        Case vbNo

        Case vbCancel

    End Select

    '

    ' -------------------------------------

    

  

    

Exit_cmdDelEmp_Click:

    Exit Sub

    

Err_cmdDelEmp_Click:

    MsgBox Err.Description

    Resume Exit_cmdDelEmp_Click

    

End Sub

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 



From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Sat Nov 20 22:40:42 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Steve Conklin (Developer@UltraDNT))
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 23:40:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] x posted Get name for message box
In-Reply-To: <000001c4cf82$87391620$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <000c01c4cf84$429cedf0$0200a8c0@COA3>

"You have chosen to delete " & Me.FirstName & " " & Me.LastName & "!"
-- substituting your control names for first & last name

Hth
Steve


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Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 11:28 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'ACCESS-L'
Subject: [AccessD] x posted Get name for message box


I have the following code for the on click event of a form. I want to
replace " this employee " with the current employee name on the form.

 

How do I do that?

 

Private Sub cmdDelEmp_Click()

    ' Comments  Confirm Employeee Deletion:

    ' Parameters:  -

    ' Modified  :

    Dim lngRetval As Long

 

    lngRetval = MsgBox( _

        "You have chosen to delete this employee!" & vbCrLf & "" &
vbCrLf & "Do you wish to continue?", _

        vbYesNoCancel + vbQuestion + vbSystemModal + vbDefaultButton1, _

        "Confirm Emplyee Deletion")

 

    Select Case lngRetval

        Case vbYes

             DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 8, , acMenuVer70

             DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 6, , acMenuVer70

        

        Case vbNo

        Case vbCancel

    End Select

    '

    ' -------------------------------------

    

  

    

Exit_cmdDelEmp_Click:

    Exit Sub

    

Err_cmdDelEmp_Click:

    MsgBox Err.Description

    Resume Exit_cmdDelEmp_Click

    

End Sub

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sat Nov 20 22:58:11 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 20:58:11 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] XPOSTED Where to put a query.
Message-ID: <000501c4cf86$b6bb9310$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

I am working on an inherited database.

 

The original database there was a 1->1 relationship between employees and
job titles.

 

At the request of the client, I have made a 1->many relationship between
employees and job titles.

 

This sql was the after update to the form:

 

INSERT INTO TrainDate ( EmpID, DocID )

SELECT Employee.EmpID, JobDoc.DocID

FROM Employee INNER JOIN JobDoc ON Employee.JobTitleID = JobDoc.JobTitleID

WHERE (((Employee.EmpID)=[Forms]![Employees]![EmpID]) AND
((Employee.JobTitleID)=[JobDoc].[JobTitleID]));

 

I need to know please:

          1. Where do I put the sql statement to check each record on the
subform.

          2. How do I ensure it does not add duplicate records if a
potentional situation

                   a. existing employee is in the system

                   b. if they are assigned a second or more job title 

 

Hope this is clear.

 

TIA

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 



From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sat Nov 20 23:05:39 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 21:05:39 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] x posted Get name for message box
In-Reply-To: <000001c4cf82$87391620$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <000a01c4cf87$c24b8400$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

Thanks Steve,

Gotta love these lists

New problem: How do I get related records in other tables?

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

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Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 8:28 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'ACCESS-L'
Subject: [AccessD] x posted Get name for message box

I have the following code for the on click event of a form. I want to
replace " this employee " with the current employee name on the form.

 

How do I do that?

 

Private Sub cmdDelEmp_Click()

    ' Comments  Confirm Employeee Deletion:

    ' Parameters:  -

    ' Modified  :

    Dim lngRetval As Long

 

    lngRetval = MsgBox( _

        "You have chosen to delete this employee!" & vbCrLf & "" & vbCrLf &
"Do you wish to continue?", _

        vbYesNoCancel + vbQuestion + vbSystemModal + vbDefaultButton1, _

        "Confirm Emplyee Deletion")

 

    Select Case lngRetval

        Case vbYes

             DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 8, , acMenuVer70

             DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 6, , acMenuVer70

        

        Case vbNo

        Case vbCancel

    End Select

    '

    ' -------------------------------------

    

  

    

Exit_cmdDelEmp_Click:

    Exit Sub

    

Err_cmdDelEmp_Click:

    MsgBox Err.Description

    Resume Exit_cmdDelEmp_Click

    

End Sub

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sat Nov 20 23:20:47 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 21:20:47 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] How do I find out about .dlls
Message-ID: <000b01c4cf89$e0d57050$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

Specificly owc10.dll

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Nov 21 02:42:41 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 09:42:41 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] How do I find out about .dlls
Message-ID: <s1a0632c.036@cactus.dk>

Hi Joe
 
Google - too many hits to list.

/gustav

>>> jmhla at earthlink.net 21-11-2004 06:20:47 >>>

Specificly owc10.dll



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Nov 21 04:21:22 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 11:21:22 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Search for linked documents....
Message-ID: <s1a07a47.039@cactus.dk>

Hi Sander

This is doable but not straight forward.

First, linked "documents" are treated as ISAM databases and tables. For
text and xBase and Paradox files, the directory is the "database" while
for Excel and Html the file is the database. Linked MAPI tables are even
more excotic so I will leave them for this. Linked ODBC tables are
complete different as they are identified by their connect strings.

Second, tables may be linked with other names than their true names.

This a query which will return all non-deleted links:

  SELECT DISTINCT 
    RTrim([Database]) AS DbsPath, 
    MSysObjects.Connect, 
    Hex(GetTableType([Flags])) AS TableType, 
    MSysObjects.ForeignName, 
    GetTrueForeignName(GetTableType([Flags]),[ForeignName]) AS
TrueForeignName, 
    MSysObjects.Name AS LinkedName
 FROM 
    MSysObjects
  WHERE 
    (IsTablePresent([Flags])=True) 
    AND 
    (MSysObjects.Type=4 Or MSysObjects.Type=6);

It uses these supporting functions:

<code>

Declarations.

  ' Table types known.
  '
  ' ODBC connection.
  Private Const clngTableTypeNone       As Long = &H0
  ' Note: MS MSDE/SQL Server has some higher bits set as well.
  Private Const clngTableTypeOdbc       As Long = &H100000
  ' Jet file attached by UNC name.
  Private Const clngTableTypeJetUnc     As Long = &H200000
  ' Jet file attached by mapped drive letter.
  Private Const clngTableTypeJetDrive   As Long = &H400000
  Private Const clngTableTypeParadox    As Long = &H700000
  Private Const clngTableTypeDbase      As Long = &H800000
  Private Const clngTableTypeText       As Long = &HA00000
  Private Const clngTableTypeExcel      As Long = &HB00000
  Private Const clngTableTypeOutlook    As Long = &HD00000
  Private Const clngTableTypeHtml       As Long = &HE00000

Public Function GetTrueForeignName( _
  ByVal lngTableType As Long, _
  ByVal strForeignName As String) _
  As String
  
' Returns true foreign name for those ISAM table types
' where this is stored as an alias.
' Foreign names for other table types are not altered.
'
' Example Excel:
'   Alias for worksheet: Sheet1$
'   True name: Sheet1
' Example Paradox:
'   Alias for table name: Pdoxfile#db
'   True name: Pdoxfile.db
'
' 2004-05-10. Cactus Data ApS, CPH.

  Const cstrSepDbase    As String = "#"
  Const cstrSepParadox  As String = "#"
  Const cstrSepText     As String = "#"
  Const cstrSepExcel    As String = "$"
  Const cstrRplExcel    As String = vbNullString
  
  Dim strTrueName   As String
  Dim lngPos        As Long
  
  Select Case lngTableType
    Case clngTableTypeParadox
      lngPos = InStr(strForeignName, cstrSepParadox)
      If lngPos > 1 Then
        strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, lngPos - 1)
      Else
        strTrueName = strForeignName
      End If
    Case clngTableTypeDbase
      lngPos = InStr(strForeignName, cstrSepDbase)
      If lngPos > 1 Then
        strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, lngPos - 1)
      Else
        strTrueName = strForeignName
      End If
    Case clngTableTypeExcel
      If Right(strForeignName, 1) = cstrSepExcel Then
        ' Worksheet. Strip traling "$".
        strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, Len(strForeignName) - 1)
      Else
        ' Named Range. Leave as is.
        strTrueName = strForeignName
      End If
    Case clngTableTypeText
      lngPos = InStr(strForeignName, cstrSepText)
      If lngPos > 1 Then
        strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, lngPos - 1)
      Else
        strTrueName = strForeignName
      End If
    Case Else
      strTrueName = strForeignName
  End Select
  
  GetTrueForeignName = strTrueName
  
End Function

Public Function IsTablePresent( _
  ByVal lngFlag As Long) _
  As Boolean
  
' Returns True if a table is not flagged as deleted in MSysObjects.
' To be used in a query to extract currently attached tables.
'
' 2004-04-21. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.

  Const clngFlagDeleted As Long = &H1001
  
  Dim booDeleted        As Boolean
  
  booDeleted = lngFlag And clngFlagDeleted
  
  IsTablePresent = Not booDeleted

  End Function

Public Function GetTableType( _
  ByVal lngFlag As Long) _
  As Long
  
' Returns the table type from lngFlag in MSysObjects by rounding it to
' &H100000 which strips all minor flags including the hidden flag
(&H8)
' and all major flags - like &H20xxxxxx used by MS MSDE/SQL Server.
' To be used in a query to extract currently attached tables of a
specific type.
'
' 2004-04-21. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.

  ' Flag mask.
  ' Const clngFlagMajor As Long = &HFF000000
  ' Const clngFlagMinor As Long = &HFFFFF
  Const clngFlagMask  As Long = &HFF0FFFFF
  
  Dim lngType         As Long
  
  lngType = lngFlag And Not clngFlagMask
  
  GetTableType = lngType

End Function

</code>

Have fun!

/gustav

>>> accessd667 at yahoo.com 19-11-2004 14:57:55 >>>
Hi group,
 
I've got some code from the ADHB2K to search for linked tables.
However, it is also possible to link documents...office documents that
is. So I mean files with extions like:
.xls;
.txt;
etc
 
Q1: how can I search for these linked 'documents'?
Q2: how can I pinpoint the xls files from none xls files?
 
TIA
 
Sander



From artful at rogers.com  Sun Nov 21 10:45:00 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 11:45:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] x posted Get name for message box
In-Reply-To: <000a01c4cf87$c24b8400$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
References: <000a01c4cf87$c24b8400$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <41A0C60C.4050302@rogers.com>

I'd write a wrapper function rather than calling MsgBox directly. 
Something along the lines of ....

<code>
Function JH_MsgBox( strSubstitute, strTitle ) As Integer
Dim intResult as Integer
intResult = MsgBox( "You have chosen to delete employee " & 
strSubstitute, vbYesNo, strTitle )
JH_MsgBox = intResult
</Code>

How you get the list of related rows in other tables depends a LOT on 
how thorough you are in documenting your tables' relationships. Assuming 
that you are thorough, you can get the list of related tables with a 
query against MSysRelationships. Make this table visible (show system 
objects) and browse it, and the contents are self-explanatory. The 
general principle is that the One table precedes the Many table in the 
naming scheme. The PKs and FKs are named so you could easily construct a 
query to list the related tables.

Maybe this is going to result in a graceful routine, but I guess that in 
my advanced years I've grown lazy. I just declare Cascade-Delete OFF and 
let Access handle it. If and when the client complains, I just say, 
"Such a potentially disastrous action should NOT be easy." If you want 
to delete a salesperson and then all her sales orders and then all the 
sales details, then I'm going to make it difficult for you, so you will 
appreciate the consequences of your actions.

Arthur
Joe Hecht wrote:

>Thanks Steve,
>
>Gotta love these lists
>
>New problem: How do I get related records in other tables?
>
>JOE HECHT
>LOS ANGELES CA 
> jmhla at earthlink.net
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
>Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 8:28 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'ACCESS-L'
>Subject: [AccessD] x posted Get name for message box
>
>I have the following code for the on click event of a form. I want to
>replace " this employee " with the current employee name on the form.
>
> 
>
>How do I do that?
>
> 
>
>Private Sub cmdDelEmp_Click()
>
>    ' Comments  Confirm Employeee Deletion:
>
>    ' Parameters:  -
>
>    ' Modified  :
>
>    Dim lngRetval As Long
>
> 
>
>    lngRetval = MsgBox( _
>
>        "You have chosen to delete this employee!" & vbCrLf & "" & vbCrLf &
>"Do you wish to continue?", _
>
>        vbYesNoCancel + vbQuestion + vbSystemModal + vbDefaultButton1, _
>
>        "Confirm Emplyee Deletion")
>
> 
>
>    Select Case lngRetval
>
>        Case vbYes
>
>             DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 8, , acMenuVer70
>
>             DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acEditMenu, 6, , acMenuVer70
>
>        
>
>        Case vbNo
>
>        Case vbCancel
>
>    End Select
>
>    '
>
>    ' -------------------------------------
>
>    
>
>  
>
>    
>
>Exit_cmdDelEmp_Click:
>
>    Exit Sub
>
>    
>
>Err_cmdDelEmp_Click:
>
>    MsgBox Err.Description
>
>    Resume Exit_cmdDelEmp_Click
>
>    
>
>End Sub
>
>JOE HECHT
>
>LOS ANGELES CA 
>
>jmhla at earthlink.net
>
> 
>
>  
>


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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sun Nov 21 10:46:13 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 10:46:13 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Accessing data in secured mdb from another secured mdb
	ona different workgroup
In-Reply-To: <4943882.1100985514124.JavaMail.root@sniper14.securence.com>
Message-ID: <000201c4cfe9$9d282540$de1811d8@danwaters>

Mark,

If 'JoeJ' on secured Database A has a PID of 1234, then JoeJ will be
able to (programmatically) open and run secured Database B from Database
A if there is a JoeJ with PID of 1234 set up for Database B.

At one point when I was setting up a few different databases, I made
sure that the same people had the same PID's.  I never did set up the
method to run one from the other though.

Best of Luck,
Dan Waters
ProMation Systems

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Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 12:06 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Accessing data in secured mdb from another secured
mdb ona different workgroup

Hello All

Using AXP on WinXP

I have two databases secured on different workgroups and accessed from
different front ends. I need to be able to import data from one into the
other but am having problems as they are secured on different mdw's. I
could merge the two mdw's but that would be a bit of a pain.

Anyone know a simple solution?

Thanks in advance

Mark

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From artful at rogers.com  Sun Nov 21 10:58:51 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 11:58:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] XPOSTED Where to put a query.
In-Reply-To: <000501c4cf86$b6bb9310$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
References: <000501c4cf86$b6bb9310$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <41A0C94B.1060201@rogers.com>

Assume tblEmployees has 1 row, tblTitles has 3 rows, and 
tblEmployeeTitles has one row:

EmpID 123
TitleID 1, 2, 3
EmpTitleID 1, EmpID 123, TitleID 1

You want to populate the combo for the associative table by "minus-ing" 
the titles already assigned. There are several ways to do this, and I 
don't profess to know which would best suit you or the size of your 
database tables....

SELECT TitleID, TitleName
FROM tblTitles
WHERE TitleID NOT IN( SELECT TitleID FROM tblEmpoyeeTitles WHERE EmpID = 
123 )

SELECT TitleID, TitleName
FROM tblTitles OUTER JOIN tblEmployeeTitles ON tblTitles.TitleID = 
tblEmployeeTitles.TitleID
WHERE tblEmployeeTitles.TitleID IS NULL

You might want to add an ORDER BY TitleName to each of these queries.

Arthur





Joe Hecht wrote:

>I am working on an inherited database.
>
> 
>
>The original database there was a 1->1 relationship between employees and
>job titles.
>
> 
>
>At the request of the client, I have made a 1->many relationship between
>employees and job titles.
>
> 
>
>This sql was the after update to the form:
>
> 
>
>INSERT INTO TrainDate ( EmpID, DocID )
>
>SELECT Employee.EmpID, JobDoc.DocID
>
>FROM Employee INNER JOIN JobDoc ON Employee.JobTitleID = JobDoc.JobTitleID
>
>WHERE (((Employee.EmpID)=[Forms]![Employees]![EmpID]) AND
>((Employee.JobTitleID)=[JobDoc].[JobTitleID]));
>
> 
>
>I need to know please:
>
>          1. Where do I put the sql statement to check each record on the
>subform.
>
>          2. How do I ensure it does not add duplicate records if a
>potentional situation
>
>                   a. existing employee is in the system
>
>                   b. if they are assigned a second or more job title 
>
> 
>
>Hope this is clear.
>
> 
>
>TIA
>
> 
>
>JOE HECHT
>
>LOS ANGELES CA 
>
>jmhla at earthlink.net
>
> 
>
>  
>


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Nov 21 13:58:57 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 14:58:57 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Norton av
In-Reply-To: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIMEGNCIAA.accessd@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <002901c4d004$894084d0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

The problem is that NAV gets it first, and it just refuses to NOT announce
to the world it has found a virus.  Its damned annoying since I'm getting
about a dozen a day.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 8:56 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Norton av


Hi John:

Just add the particular .de mail to your junk email list and aim it straight
to the Deleted Items folder.

HTH
Jim

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Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 6:21 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Norton av


Does anyone know how to get nav to just quietly quarantine virus messages?
For some reason my new address got on a virus writer's list and I am getting
10 a day - all from .de email address.  I'd like to have nav just stop
telling me about the viruses and just quarantine them.

John W. Colby
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Nov 21 14:09:27 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 15:09:27 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Norton av
In-Reply-To: <002901c4d004$894084d0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <003201c4d006$00e44e80$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

This is too weird.  There must be two routes in to that area because when I
just pop up the NAV and click on email, silently quarantine is not an
option, but after poking around then going back there are about 3 more
options not available the first time, including silently quarantine.

John W. Colby
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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 2:59 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Norton av


The problem is that NAV gets it first, and it just refuses to NOT announce
to the world it has found a virus.  Its damned annoying since I'm getting
about a dozen a day.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
(AccessD)
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 8:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Norton av


Hi John:

Just add the particular .de mail to your junk email list and aim it straight
to the Deleted Items folder.

HTH
Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 6:21 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Norton av


Does anyone know how to get nav to just quietly quarantine virus messages?
For some reason my new address got on a virus writer's list and I am getting
10 a day - all from .de email address.  I'd like to have nav just stop
telling me about the viruses and just quarantine them.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Sun Nov 21 14:23:35 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 20:23:35 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] How do I find out about .dlls
In-Reply-To: <000b01c4cf89$e0d57050$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <000001c4d007$fa96ecc0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Joe
Try MS's DLL Help Database at

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=%2fservicedesks%2ffileversion
%2fdefault.asp%3fvartarget%3dmsdn

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
> Sent: 21 November 2004 05:21
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] How do I find out about .dlls
> 
> 
> Specificly owc10.dll
> 
>  
> 
> JOE HECHT
> 
> LOS ANGELES CA 
> 
> jmhla at earthlink.net
> 
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Sun Nov 21 14:23:35 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 20:23:35 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?
In-Reply-To: <s19e3304.024@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <000201c4d007$fb07fe10$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Well I'll give the Refresh a try, but Gustav is quite correct that I said at
the outset that requerying the data is out of the question. And the update
has to show on-screen immediately as it is the user's visual guide to what
he has and hasn't done. What I've almost got the screen converted to is
using a UNION query just to populate a temp table of pk's in the form's
OnOpen, then basing the form on a query which links the temp table to all of
the required data. This query, although quite complex, fits the bill of
being updatable and immediately updating the underlying tables. So thanks
everyone for the feedback but the job's pretty well done now.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Gustav Brock
> Sent: 19 November 2004 16:53
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Updatable UNION?
> 
> 
> Hi Andy 
>  
> OK, if that works, Andy would be fine. 
> I haven't tried myself, just noted that a requery was out of the
> qestion:
>  
> >By the way it's not practical to upodate the underlying tables and
> requery
> >to display the depatch info because there's a lot of data on screen
> and
> >requerying takes too long.
> 
> /gustav
> 
> >>> artful at rogers.com 19-11-2004 17:28:07 >>>
> 
> I wouldn't be quite that hasty, Gustav. You are of course correct that
> 
> UNIONs are read-only, but you can certainly grab the PK, pop up a form
> 
> that permits the update, and Refresh rather than Requery. 
> I've done this 
> particular thing several times and it works a treat.
> 
> Arthur
> 
> Gustav Brock wrote:
> 
> >Hi Andy
> > 
> >No, unions are read-only. If you can't go the update-behind-requery 
> >route, I guess you are left with the temp table.
> > 
> >/gustav
> >
> >  
> >
> >>>>andy at minstersystems.co.uk 18-11-2004 10:09:56 >>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >
> >Morning all
> >I've a continuous screen which needs to list two types of 
> order in date
> >sequence. These are held on separate tables. No problem, a UNION
> query
> >does
> >the job fine. However the user has to tick an order to say it's 
> >despatched, and then the screen needs to show that 
> information, but the 
> >recordset is not
> >updatable. Presumably this applies to all UNION queries does it? Does
> >anyone
> >have a way round this or do I have to go to extracting to a temp
> table
> >and
> >all that jazz?
> >
> >By the way it's not practical to upodate the underlying tables and 
> >requery to display the depatch info because there's a lot of data on 
> >screen and
> >requerying takes too long.
> >
> >--
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> >http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sun Nov 21 18:10:49 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 16:10:49 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] How do I find out about .dlls
In-Reply-To: <000001c4d007$fa96ecc0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>
Message-ID: <200411220012.iAM0CnL10818@databaseadvisors.com>

Thanks Andy,

Tells me everything but what I want to know.  What does OWC10.dll do?

Joe Hecht
jmhla at earthlink.net
28g
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Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 12:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] How do I find out about .dlls

Joe
Try MS's DLL Help Database at

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=%2fservicedesks%2ffileversion
%2fdefault.asp%3fvartarget%3dmsdn

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
> Sent: 21 November 2004 05:21
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] How do I find out about .dlls
> 
> 
> Specificly owc10.dll
> 
>  
> 
> JOE HECHT
> 
> LOS ANGELES CA 
> 
> jmhla at earthlink.net
> 
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From pcs at azizaz.com  Sun Nov 21 19:13:04 2004
From: pcs at azizaz.com (Borge Hansen)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:13:04 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] How do I find out about .dlls
References: <200411220012.iAM0CnL10818@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <007501c4d030$6b6d0150$fa10a8c0@Albatross>

Joe,
Try google:

OCW10.dll definition
or
"Microsoft Office Web Components" library

Borge


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From: "Joe Hecht" <jmhla at earthlink.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 10:10 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] How do I find out about .dlls


> Thanks Andy,
>
> Tells me everything but what I want to know.  What does OWC10.dll do?
>
> Joe Hecht
> jmhla at earthlink.net
> 28g
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
> Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 12:24 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] How do I find out about .dlls
>
> Joe
> Try MS's DLL Help Database at
>
>
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=%2fservicedesks%2ffileversion
> %2fdefault.asp%3fvartarget%3dmsdn
>
> -- Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
> > Sent: 21 November 2004 05:21
> > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > Subject: [AccessD] How do I find out about .dlls
> >
> >
> > Specificly owc10.dll
> >
> >
> >
> > JOE HECHT
> >
> > LOS ANGELES CA
> >
> > jmhla at earthlink.net
> >
> >
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From hadyn at dataconcepts.co.nz  Sun Nov 21 19:15:31 2004
From: hadyn at dataconcepts.co.nz (Hadyn Morgan)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 14:15:31 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] How do I find out about .dlls
In-Reply-To: <200411220012.iAM0CnL10818@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <DCEDLLKBLHGDEGDGJBJIAEKHEFAA.hadyn@dataconcepts.co.nz>

It's part of Office Web Components for 2000.

Hadyn


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Monday, 22 November 2004 13:11
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] How do I find out about .dlls


Thanks Andy,

Tells me everything but what I want to know.  What does OWC10.dll do?

Joe Hecht
jmhla at earthlink.net
28g
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From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Mon Nov 22 05:28:04 2004
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:28:04 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Design Problem
Message-ID: <F37DAC9A2964B144A2973EBCA8C54DBD018583A4@BURY2K23.bury.gov.uk>

Hi Group

 

I am having a brain blockage - can anyone help. I will try to be as
brief as possible.

I can't figure out how to design this one.  Seems like different options
- not sure which way to go.

Here goes (may not be as complicated as it appears) - sorry its so long.

 

Scenario:

 

Client_1 (which can be an organisation or individual) can request a Job
(interpretation) 

The Job can be carried out on behalf of a second Client_2  or not.

The job may have a Patient/recipient (client_3??) of the job
(interpreation) or not.

 

Example 1

Charity OrgA (Client 1) requests an interpretation for a Medical Centre
(Dr Smith - Client 2) and 

Mrs Jones (client 3/Patient) is the person receiving teh interpretation.

 

Example 2

Charity OrgA (Client 1) requests an interpretation for a itself (Client
1) and the Recipient/Patient is itself(client_1) 

 

Example 3

Medical Centre (was previously Client 2) requests an interpretation for
a itself (Client 2) 

 

What I am confused is whether to have one Client Table (that accomodates
Orgs/Customers and Individuals/Patients)

Or have 3 separate tables Client_1 table, Client_2 (aka Customer) table
and a Patient/Person Table.

 

All 3 entities hold address/contact info (Client 1 table needs to store
invoice/finance data as well)

 

To give a job table like this

 

JobTable

========

JobID

ClientID_1--------->Client_1_table

ClientID_2--------->Client_1_table

ClientID_3--------->Client_1_table

Other fields

.....

 

or

 

JobID

ClientID_1--------->Client_1_table

ClientID_2--------->Client_2_table

ClientID_3--------->Client_3_table

Other fields

.....

 

The second option means that when Client_1 requests a job for itself the
address data etc is duplicated into the Client_2 and Client_3 tables 

- does this really matter?  Equally the Medical Centre (Client_2) may
next week be Client_1 (request a job/service itself)

 

Finally one more question is that I can't decide whether to do this as
well - even thought there is a one-to-one job_client relationship

(rather than store Client_1_ID, Client_2_ID, Client_3_ID in job table as
above) do this????

 

JobTable

========

JobID

Other fields

.....

 

JobClient_1_Table

=================

JobID

Client_1_ID

......

 

JobClient_2_Table

=================

JobID

Client_2_ID

......

 

JobClient_3_Table

=================

JobID

Client_3_ID

......

 

 

Any thoughts?

Many thanks

 

Richard

 

 



From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Mon Nov 22 05:31:02 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 03:31:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Search for linked documents....
In-Reply-To: <s1a07a47.039@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20041122113102.67318.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com>

Have fun....haha..ha...hmmm I think we've got different ideas about fun 
Thnx for the, once again, great response.
 
Sander

Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
Hi Sander

This is doable but not straight forward.

First, linked "documents" are treated as ISAM databases and tables. For
text and xBase and Paradox files, the directory is the "database" while
for Excel and Html the file is the database. Linked MAPI tables are even
more excotic so I will leave them for this. Linked ODBC tables are
complete different as they are identified by their connect strings.

Second, tables may be linked with other names than their true names.

This a query which will return all non-deleted links:

SELECT DISTINCT 
RTrim([Database]) AS DbsPath, 
MSysObjects.Connect, 
Hex(GetTableType([Flags])) AS TableType, 
MSysObjects.ForeignName, 
GetTrueForeignName(GetTableType([Flags]),[ForeignName]) AS
TrueForeignName, 
MSysObjects.Name AS LinkedName
FROM 
MSysObjects
WHERE 
(IsTablePresent([Flags])=True) 
AND 
(MSysObjects.Type=4 Or MSysObjects.Type=6);

It uses these supporting functions:



Declarations.

' Table types known.
'
' ODBC connection.
Private Const clngTableTypeNone As Long = &H0
' Note: MS MSDE/SQL Server has some higher bits set as well.
Private Const clngTableTypeOdbc As Long = &H100000
' Jet file attached by UNC name.
Private Const clngTableTypeJetUnc As Long = &H200000
' Jet file attached by mapped drive letter.
Private Const clngTableTypeJetDrive As Long = &H400000
Private Const clngTableTypeParadox As Long = &H700000
Private Const clngTableTypeDbase As Long = &H800000
Private Const clngTableTypeText As Long = &HA00000
Private Const clngTableTypeExcel As Long = &HB00000
Private Const clngTableTypeOutlook As Long = &HD00000
Private Const clngTableTypeHtml As Long = &HE00000

Public Function GetTrueForeignName( _
ByVal lngTableType As Long, _
ByVal strForeignName As String) _
As String

' Returns true foreign name for those ISAM table types
' where this is stored as an alias.
' Foreign names for other table types are not altered.
'
' Example Excel:
' Alias for worksheet: Sheet1$
' True name: Sheet1
' Example Paradox:
' Alias for table name: Pdoxfile#db
' True name: Pdoxfile.db
'
' 2004-05-10. Cactus Data ApS, CPH.

Const cstrSepDbase As String = "#"
Const cstrSepParadox As String = "#"
Const cstrSepText As String = "#"
Const cstrSepExcel As String = "$"
Const cstrRplExcel As String = vbNullString

Dim strTrueName As String
Dim lngPos As Long

Select Case lngTableType
Case clngTableTypeParadox
lngPos = InStr(strForeignName, cstrSepParadox)
If lngPos > 1 Then
strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, lngPos - 1)
Else
strTrueName = strForeignName
End If
Case clngTableTypeDbase
lngPos = InStr(strForeignName, cstrSepDbase)
If lngPos > 1 Then
strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, lngPos - 1)
Else
strTrueName = strForeignName
End If
Case clngTableTypeExcel
If Right(strForeignName, 1) = cstrSepExcel Then
' Worksheet. Strip traling "$".
strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, Len(strForeignName) - 1)
Else
' Named Range. Leave as is.
strTrueName = strForeignName
End If
Case clngTableTypeText
lngPos = InStr(strForeignName, cstrSepText)
If lngPos > 1 Then
strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, lngPos - 1)
Else
strTrueName = strForeignName
End If
Case Else
strTrueName = strForeignName
End Select

GetTrueForeignName = strTrueName

End Function

Public Function IsTablePresent( _
ByVal lngFlag As Long) _
As Boolean

' Returns True if a table is not flagged as deleted in MSysObjects.
' To be used in a query to extract currently attached tables.
'
' 2004-04-21. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.

Const clngFlagDeleted As Long = &H1001

Dim booDeleted As Boolean

booDeleted = lngFlag And clngFlagDeleted

IsTablePresent = Not booDeleted

End Function

Public Function GetTableType( _
ByVal lngFlag As Long) _
As Long

' Returns the table type from lngFlag in MSysObjects by rounding it to
' &H100000 which strips all minor flags including the hidden flag
(&H8)
' and all major flags - like &H20xxxxxx used by MS MSDE/SQL Server.
' To be used in a query to extract currently attached tables of a
specific type.
'
' 2004-04-21. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.

' Flag mask.
' Const clngFlagMajor As Long = &HFF000000
' Const clngFlagMinor As Long = &HFFFFF
Const clngFlagMask As Long = &HFF0FFFFF

Dim lngType As Long

lngType = lngFlag And Not clngFlagMask

GetTableType = lngType

End Function



Have fun!

/gustav

>>> accessd667 at yahoo.com 19-11-2004 14:57:55 >>>
Hi group,

I've got some code from the ADHB2K to search for linked tables.
However, it is also possible to link documents...office documents that
is. So I mean files with extions like:
.xls;
.txt;
etc

Q1: how can I search for these linked 'documents'?
Q2: how can I pinpoint the xls files from none xls files?

TIA

Sander

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From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Mon Nov 22 05:39:31 2004
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:39:31 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Design Problem
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C4A7@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>

Morning Richard!

My approach to this would be to put _all_ Client details into one table and
Job details into another separate table.

The Job table would contain fields for fldClient1, fldClient2, fldClient3,
etc.

HTH - Chris Foote (UK)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk]
> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 11:28 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Design Problem
> 
> 
> Hi Group
> 
>  
> 
> I am having a brain blockage - can anyone help. I will try to be as
> brief as possible.
> 
> I can't figure out how to design this one.  Seems like 
> different options
> - not sure which way to go.
> 
> Here goes (may not be as complicated as it appears) - sorry 
> its so long.
> 
--------(Snip)--------


From KP at sdsonline.net  Mon Nov 22 05:40:31 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:40:31 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Design Problem
References: <F37DAC9A2964B144A2973EBCA8C54DBD018583A4@BURY2K23.bury.gov.uk>
Message-ID: <001601c4d088$167e6b90$6401a8c0@user>

Richard - I think if it was me I would only have one client table, from what you have said, but with 3 separate fields there, eg.

'Job' table:
Job ID (autonumber)
RequestorID (related to Client ID in Client table)
PrincipalClientID (related to Client ID in Client table)
RecipientID (related to Client ID in Client table)

'Client' table
Client ID (autonumber)
Name details
Address details


The fields RequestorID, PrincipalClientID and RecipientID would all relate to one Client table.

That way all 'client' data would be stored in the one table and never duplicated, and you would have the flexibility of having any combination of the 3 fields in the Job table. The only mandatory field (it appears) would be the RequestorID.

HTH

Kath

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Griffiths, Richard 
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 10:28 PM
  Subject: [AccessD] Design Problem


  Hi Group

   

  I am having a brain blockage - can anyone help. I will try to be as
  brief as possible.

  I can't figure out how to design this one.  Seems like different options
  - not sure which way to go.

  Here goes (may not be as complicated as it appears) - sorry its so long.

   

  Scenario:

   

  Client_1 (which can be an organisation or individual) can request a Job
  (interpretation) 

  The Job can be carried out on behalf of a second Client_2  or not.

  The job may have a Patient/recipient (client_3??) of the job
  (interpreation) or not.

   

  Example 1

  Charity OrgA (Client 1) requests an interpretation for a Medical Centre
  (Dr Smith - Client 2) and 

  Mrs Jones (client 3/Patient) is the person receiving teh interpretation.

   

  Example 2

  Charity OrgA (Client 1) requests an interpretation for a itself (Client
  1) and the Recipient/Patient is itself(client_1) 

   

  Example 3

  Medical Centre (was previously Client 2) requests an interpretation for
  a itself (Client 2) 

   

  What I am confused is whether to have one Client Table (that accomodates
  Orgs/Customers and Individuals/Patients)

  Or have 3 separate tables Client_1 table, Client_2 (aka Customer) table
  and a Patient/Person Table.

   

  All 3 entities hold address/contact info (Client 1 table needs to store
  invoice/finance data as well)

   

  To give a job table like this

   

  JobTable

  ========

  JobID

  ClientID_1--------->Client_1_table

  ClientID_2--------->Client_1_table

  ClientID_3--------->Client_1_table

  Other fields

  .....

   

  or

   

  JobID

  ClientID_1--------->Client_1_table

  ClientID_2--------->Client_2_table

  ClientID_3--------->Client_3_table

  Other fields

  .....

   

  The second option means that when Client_1 requests a job for itself the
  address data etc is duplicated into the Client_2 and Client_3 tables 

  - does this really matter?  Equally the Medical Centre (Client_2) may
  next week be Client_1 (request a job/service itself)

   

  Finally one more question is that I can't decide whether to do this as
  well - even thought there is a one-to-one job_client relationship

  (rather than store Client_1_ID, Client_2_ID, Client_3_ID in job table as
  above) do this????

   

  JobTable

  ========

  JobID

  Other fields

  .....

   

  JobClient_1_Table

  =================

  JobID

  Client_1_ID

  ......

   

  JobClient_2_Table

  =================

  JobID

  Client_2_ID

  ......

   

  JobClient_3_Table

  =================

  JobID

  Client_3_ID

  ......

   

   

  Any thoughts?

  Many thanks

   

  Richard

   

   

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From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Mon Nov 22 05:49:48 2004
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:49:48 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Design Problem
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C4A8@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>

I agree with Kath

(who described my preferred solution much better than I did :-O)

Chris Foote

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kath Pelletti [mailto:KP at sdsonline.net]
> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 11:41 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Design Problem
> 
> 
> Richard - I think if it was me I would only have one client 
> table, from what you have said, but with 3 separate fields there, eg.
> 
> 'Job' table:
> Job ID (autonumber)
> RequestorID (related to Client ID in Client table)
> PrincipalClientID (related to Client ID in Client table)
> RecipientID (related to Client ID in Client table)
> 
> 'Client' table
> Client ID (autonumber)
> Name details
> Address details
> 
> 
> The fields RequestorID, PrincipalClientID and RecipientID 
> would all relate to one Client table.
> 
> That way all 'client' data would be stored in the one table 
> and never duplicated, and you would have the flexibility of 
> having any combination of the 3 fields in the Job table. The 
> only mandatory field (it appears) would be the RequestorID.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Kath


From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Mon Nov 22 06:49:13 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 07:49:13 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Norton av
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30A2BB49@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BBA20@ADGSERVER>

I saw that you found what you were looking for.  

I believe that it is the Sober virus you are getting.  It was targeted at
the Germans (.de).  I had 27 of them in quarantine this morning when I got
in.

Bobby

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 9:21 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Norton av


Does anyone know how to get nav to just quietly quarantine virus messages?
For some reason my new address got on a virus writer's list and I am getting
10 a day - all from .de email address.  I'd like to have nav just stop
telling me about the viruses and just quarantine them.

John W. Colby



From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Mon Nov 22 07:04:29 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 08:04:29 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74486B41@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

No not on the fly.  Every report is saved twice (once for English, another for Spanish).  This was all set up before I got here but I think the difference in the text sizes (lengths) between the languages was a major reason.

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 3:49 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
Something


Jim,

Are your reports partially translated on the fly?  If not it seems that
you would need to have your original text information recorded in two
separate places - one for each language?

If on the fly how is this done?

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:28 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
Something

We have two of everything here at this point.  Pick the language, print
the correct version report.

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:28 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
Something


Switch to VB.Net and XML?  (well, it IS Friday) :-}

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 7:44 AM
To: Database Advisors
Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something


I have a client who would like their system to be able to present
reports in different languages, based on a selection made on-screen by
the reader.  How would I get started making this happen?  

 

Thanks,

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems

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From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Mon Nov 22 07:16:04 2004
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:16:04 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Design Problem
Message-ID: <F37DAC9A2964B144A2973EBCA8C54DBD018583A7@BURY2K23.bury.gov.uk>


Thanks Kath, Chris for your reply - this was my original thinking but
then I had doubts. As the Recipients really may only have a name (and
maybe address) I wondered whether they should have their own table.  I
will simply have to add logic to my FE (and have fields such as
IsOrganisation, IsRecipient flags/fields on my Client table) so that
when adding new Requestor Clients it displays invoice, vat etc details -
but not for Recipient Clients.
Richard


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: 22 November 2004 11:41
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Design Problem

Richard - I think if it was me I would only have one client table, from
what you have said, but with 3 separate fields there, eg.

'Job' table:
Job ID (autonumber)
RequestorID (related to Client ID in Client table)
PrincipalClientID (related to Client ID in Client table)
RecipientID (related to Client ID in Client table)

'Client' table
Client ID (autonumber)
Name details
Address details


The fields RequestorID, PrincipalClientID and RecipientID would all
relate to one Client table.

That way all 'client' data would be stored in the one table and never
duplicated, and you would have the flexibility of having any combination
of the 3 fields in the Job table. The only mandatory field (it appears)
would be the RequestorID.

HTH

Kath

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Griffiths, Richard 
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 10:28 PM
  Subject: [AccessD] Design Problem


  Hi Group

   

  I am having a brain blockage - can anyone help. I will try to be as
  brief as possible.

  I can't figure out how to design this one.  Seems like different
options
  - not sure which way to go.

  Here goes (may not be as complicated as it appears) - sorry its so
long.

   

  Scenario:

   

  Client_1 (which can be an organisation or individual) can request a
Job
  (interpretation) 

  The Job can be carried out on behalf of a second Client_2  or not.

  The job may have a Patient/recipient (client_3??) of the job
  (interpreation) or not.

   

  Example 1

  Charity OrgA (Client 1) requests an interpretation for a Medical
Centre
  (Dr Smith - Client 2) and 

  Mrs Jones (client 3/Patient) is the person receiving teh
interpretation.

   

  Example 2

  Charity OrgA (Client 1) requests an interpretation for a itself
(Client
  1) and the Recipient/Patient is itself(client_1) 

   

  Example 3

  Medical Centre (was previously Client 2) requests an interpretation
for
  a itself (Client 2) 

   

  What I am confused is whether to have one Client Table (that
accomodates
  Orgs/Customers and Individuals/Patients)

  Or have 3 separate tables Client_1 table, Client_2 (aka Customer)
table
  and a Patient/Person Table.

   

  All 3 entities hold address/contact info (Client 1 table needs to
store
  invoice/finance data as well)

   

  To give a job table like this

   

  JobTable

  ========

  JobID

  ClientID_1--------->Client_1_table

  ClientID_2--------->Client_1_table

  ClientID_3--------->Client_1_table

  Other fields

  .....

   

  or

   

  JobID

  ClientID_1--------->Client_1_table

  ClientID_2--------->Client_2_table

  ClientID_3--------->Client_3_table

  Other fields

  .....

   

  The second option means that when Client_1 requests a job for itself
the
  address data etc is duplicated into the Client_2 and Client_3 tables 

  - does this really matter?  Equally the Medical Centre (Client_2) may
  next week be Client_1 (request a job/service itself)

   

  Finally one more question is that I can't decide whether to do this as
  well - even thought there is a one-to-one job_client relationship

  (rather than store Client_1_ID, Client_2_ID, Client_3_ID in job table
as
  above) do this????

   

  JobTable

  ========

  JobID

  Other fields

  .....

   

  JobClient_1_Table

  =================

  JobID

  Client_1_ID

  ......

   

  JobClient_2_Table

  =================

  JobID

  Client_2_ID

  ......

   

  JobClient_3_Table

  =================

  JobID

  Client_3_ID

  ......

   

   

  Any thoughts?

  Many thanks

   

  Richard

   

   

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From pcs at azizaz.com  Mon Nov 22 07:22:25 2004
From: pcs at azizaz.com (Borge Hansen)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 23:22:25 +1000
Subject: Fw: [AccessD] Triple State Check Box
Message-ID: <000c01c4d096$4efde370$fa10a8c0@Albatross>

Any one who wants to offer a comment?
Borge

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From: "Borge Hansen" <pcs at azizaz.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Triple State Check Box


> Hi,
> I've been playing around with the triple state property of a checkbox on a
> bound multirecord subform bound to a Yes/No field in the backend table.
>
> To make it work I finally had to bind the check box control to a field
with
> a different datatype.
> It's now bound to an integer field
> with default value of 'null'
> and validation rule set to: 'Between -1 And 0 Or Is Null' .
>
> Now it works.
>
> But : Is that the (only) way to do it, or have I overlooked something?
>
> Regards
> Borge



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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Nov 22 07:44:22 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 14:44:22 +0100
Subject: Fw: [AccessD] Triple State Check Box
Message-ID: <s1a1fb59.059@cactus.dk>

Hi B?rge

Seems OK to me.

You could have chosen Byte but then you would need to record Null, 0,
and 1.
1 is valid for not False in VB(A) and you can check for that with 

  <> False 

or 

  Not False

Validation rule could be: 0 Or -1 Or Is Null 
or, for Byte: 0 Or 1 Or Is Null

/gustav

>>> pcs at azizaz.com 22-11-2004 14:22:25 >>>
Any one who wants to offer a comment?
Borge

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From: "Borge Hansen" <pcs at azizaz.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Triple State Check Box


> Hi,
> I've been playing around with the triple state property of a checkbox
on a
> bound multirecord subform bound to a Yes/No field in the backend
table.
>
> To make it work I finally had to bind the check box control to a
field with
> a different datatype.
> It's now bound to an integer field
> with default value of 'null'
> and validation rule set to: 'Between -1 And 0 Or Is Null' .
>
> Now it works.
>
> But : Is that the (only) way to do it, or have I overlooked
something?
>
> Regards
> Borge



From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Nov 22 09:14:33 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 09:14:33 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something
In-Reply-To: <1619889.1101128794822.JavaMail.root@sniper18.securence.com>
Message-ID: <000801c4d0a5$f9224350$de1811d8@danwaters>

I did some internet research and found that there apparently isn't
anything that does 'perfect' translations - that is left to actual
people!  It did seem that there were some not inexpensive software
solutions that would have been able to do a pretty good job.

Translation on a PC is called Machine Translation.  Machine translation
can take a document and take a 'first cut' at doing a translation.  Then
someone who knows both languages can finish it off in less time.  I'm
going to recommend this approach to my client.

This first cut can be done from Word.  
	Open a Word document and highlight some text. 
	Select Tools | Language | Translate.
	A Translate pane will appear at the right.
	At the bottom see 'Translate via the Web'.
	Select the language translation you want.
	Push Go.
	A web site will open with the Machine translation of the text
		you highlighted.  

I tried to use the Look up in Dictionary feature, but that always came
back with No Suggestions.

Dan Waters
ProMation Systems

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 7:04 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
Something

No not on the fly.  Every report is saved twice (once for English,
another for Spanish).  This was all set up before I got here but I think
the difference in the text sizes (lengths) between the languages was a
major reason.

Jim DeMarco

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 3:49 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
Something


Jim,

Are your reports partially translated on the fly?  If not it seems that
you would need to have your original text information recorded in two
separate places - one for each language?

If on the fly how is this done?

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:28 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
Something

We have two of everything here at this point.  Pick the language, print
the correct version report.

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:28 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
Something


Switch to VB.Net and XML?  (well, it IS Friday) :-}

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 7:44 AM
To: Database Advisors
Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something


I have a client who would like their system to be able to present
reports in different languages, based on a selection made on-screen by
the reader.  How would I get started making this happen?  

 

Thanks,

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems

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From GregSmith at starband.net  Mon Nov 22 09:33:23 2004
From: GregSmith at starband.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 09:33:23 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Macro Security in Runtime "issue"...
In-Reply-To: <000c01c4d096$4efde370$fa10a8c0@Albatross>
References: <000c01c4d096$4efde370$fa10a8c0@Albatross>
Message-ID: <1360.65.118.249.206.1101137603.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>

Hello everyone!

Is there a way to shut off the security messages you get in Access 2003 in
a runtime version of an application?  I have them shut off on my computer
and it works fine here, but when I have the customer install it on their
computer(s) (they don't have Access installed at all), they get the
messages on startup about unsafe expressions, etc.  They can't shut them
off on their computers because the application doesn't allow access to
those areas (restricted menus).

I was hoping to be able to do it internally (in vb), but that's probably
exactly what MS is trying to prevent with the security.  So far they've
succeeded and I've failed...and turning warnings on/off doesn't do it
either.

Of course, if they have Access installed, I'll tell them to just shut off
the macro security (set it to 'low')...which has it's inherent dangers,
but in most cases is ok.

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

TIA!

Greg Smith
gregsmith at starband.net




From sgeller at cce.umn.edu  Mon Nov 22 09:40:36 2004
From: sgeller at cce.umn.edu (Susan Geller)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 09:40:36 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Schedule a Query to run once a month
Message-ID: <DCE82B0926109E4B986BF32CFA78495C23F51B@MAIL1.cce.local>

I have an mdb file that has an update query.  I want this update query
to run once a month at a specific time. For example, the 28th day of the
month at 11:00 am.  Is there a way to set this up to run even if the mdb
file is not open?

--Susan

Susan B. Geller
Office of Information Systems
College of Continuing Education
University of Minnesota
306 Wesbrook Hall
77 Pleasant Street SE
Minneapolis, MN 55455
Phone:  612-626-4785
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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Mon Nov 22 09:45:48 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 07:45:48 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Schedule a Query to run once a month
In-Reply-To: <DCE82B0926109E4B986BF32CFA78495C23F51B@MAIL1.cce.local>
Message-ID: <200411221547.iAMFlqL25040@databaseadvisors.com>

Based on other discussions in this group, you need to have some program or
operating system scheduled event to call the mdb.

Joe Hecht
jmhla at earthlink.net
28g
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Subject: [AccessD] Schedule a Query to run once a month

I have an mdb file that has an update query.  I want this update query
to run once a month at a specific time. For example, the 28th day of the
month at 11:00 am.  Is there a way to set this up to run even if the mdb
file is not open?

--Susan

Susan B. Geller
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From GregSmith at starband.net  Mon Nov 22 09:55:39 2004
From: GregSmith at starband.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 09:55:39 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD] Schedule a Query to run once a month
In-Reply-To: <DCE82B0926109E4B986BF32CFA78495C23F51B@MAIL1.cce.local>
References: <DCE82B0926109E4B986BF32CFA78495C23F51B@MAIL1.cce.local>
Message-ID: <1432.65.118.249.206.1101138939.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>

Susan:

I have a set of queries run every night (or morning...) at 0410 when
nobody is in the database.  I actually have the queries in a separate
application linked to the data (back end).  Then using the scheduler in
windows, have it run the application where the queries are set up to run
in the autoexec macro of the 'different' application.  Then it makes no
difference if the main app is open or not, this one runs when you schedule
it to run.

HTH.

Greg Smith
gregsmith at starband.net


> I have an mdb file that has an update query.  I want this update query
> to run once a month at a specific time. For example, the 28th day of the
> month at 11:00 am.  Is there a way to set this up to run even if the mdb
> file is not open?
>
> --Susan
>
> Susan B. Geller
> Office of Information Systems
> College of Continuing Education
> University of Minnesota
> 306 Wesbrook Hall
> 77 Pleasant Street SE
> Minneapolis, MN 55455
> Phone:  612-626-4785
> Fax:  612-625-2568
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From JColby at dispec.com  Mon Nov 22 09:57:10 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:57:10 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Schedule a Query to run once a month
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF9A5@DISABILITYINS01>

You have to use Window's scheduler to open the database and execute the
query.  I would place the query out in a separate MDB, link in all and only
the tables required for the query, then write a little function to run the
query then shut down the db again.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


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Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 10:41 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Schedule a Query to run once a month


I have an mdb file that has an update query.  I want this update query
to run once a month at a specific time. For example, the 28th day of the
month at 11:00 am.  Is there a way to set this up to run even if the mdb
file is not open?

--Susan

Susan B. Geller
Office of Information Systems
College of Continuing Education
University of Minnesota
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From liz at symphonyinfo.com  Mon Nov 22 09:57:26 2004
From: liz at symphonyinfo.com (Liz Doering)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 09:57:26 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Schedule a Query to run once a month
In-Reply-To: <DCE82B0926109E4B986BF32CFA78495C23F51B@MAIL1.cce.local>
Message-ID: <E1CWGZH-0000sn-00@pop-a065d05.pas.sa.earthlink.net>

Susan,

Use Windows Scheduler to open the .mdb with the update query.  Set up an
autoexec macro to run a function that checks the date and time, then runs
the query if the current date and time are when you want it to run.

It's been ages since we've heard from you!  Hope all is well.


Liz Doering
Symphony Information Services
liz at symphonyinfo.com
www.symphonyinfo.com
763-391-7400





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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Geller
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 9:41 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Schedule a Query to run once a month

I have an mdb file that has an update query.  I want this update query to
run once a month at a specific time. For example, the 28th day of the month
at 11:00 am.  Is there a way to set this up to run even if the mdb file is
not open?

--Susan

Susan B. Geller
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Nov 22 10:43:51 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 08:43:51 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Change SubDatasheetName to [None] in code?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B8F@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Um ... Is it too late to point out that there is code in on-line help to
turn off the subdatasheet for a table.  It's easy enough to expand that
to the entire database.  I've done it a couple of slightly different
ways, but I only found the code in help after I had built virtually the
same code on my own.

Charlotte Foust


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Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 9:44 AM
To: 'Database Advisors'
Subject: [AccessD] Change SubDatasheetName to [None] in code?


Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!

 

I want to write a utility sub to change the SubDatasheetName property in
tables to [None].  I'm trying to use the code below, but get an error of
'The object is closed or does not exist' at the code line beginning Set
prp =.  The table is open and in Design view.

 

    Dim obj As AccessObject

    Dim prp As DAO.Property

    Dim stgName As String

    

    For Each obj In CurrentData.AllTables

        stgName = obj.Name

        DoCmd.OpenTable stgName, acViewDesign, acEdit

        Set prp = obj.CreateProperty("SubDatasheetName", dbText,
"[None]")

        DoCmd.Close acTable, stgName, acSaveYes

    Next

 

Can this be done?

 

Thanks,

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems, Inc.

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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Mon Nov 22 10:44:23 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:44:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74486B4C@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Another issue we've run across with translation is dialect so you'd have to becareful with and programmed translation.  Which is another reason we've got two of everything, so we can determine and control dialect issues.

Jim D.

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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
Something


I did some internet research and found that there apparently isn't
anything that does 'perfect' translations - that is left to actual
people!  It did seem that there were some not inexpensive software
solutions that would have been able to do a pretty good job.

Translation on a PC is called Machine Translation.  Machine translation
can take a document and take a 'first cut' at doing a translation.  Then
someone who knows both languages can finish it off in less time.  I'm
going to recommend this approach to my client.

This first cut can be done from Word.  
	Open a Word document and highlight some text. 
	Select Tools | Language | Translate.
	A Translate pane will appear at the right.
	At the bottom see 'Translate via the Web'.
	Select the language translation you want.
	Push Go.
	A web site will open with the Machine translation of the text
		you highlighted.  

I tried to use the Look up in Dictionary feature, but that always came
back with No Suggestions.

Dan Waters
ProMation Systems

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 7:04 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
Something

No not on the fly.  Every report is saved twice (once for English,
another for Spanish).  This was all set up before I got here but I think
the difference in the text sizes (lengths) between the languages was a
major reason.

Jim DeMarco

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 3:49 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
Something


Jim,

Are your reports partially translated on the fly?  If not it seems that
you would need to have your original text information recorded in two
separate places - one for each language?

If on the fly how is this done?

Dan

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Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:28 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
Something

We have two of everything here at this point.  Pick the language, print
the correct version report.

Jim DeMarco

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:28 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
Something


Switch to VB.Net and XML?  (well, it IS Friday) :-}

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 7:44 AM
To: Database Advisors
Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something


I have a client who would like their system to be able to present
reports in different languages, based on a selection made on-screen by
the reader.  How would I get started making this happen?  

 

Thanks,

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Nov 22 10:44:35 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 08:44:35 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ActiveX Charting Control For Access?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B90@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Have you looked at ChartFX?

Charlotte Foust


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Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 5:45 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] ActiveX Charting Control For Access?


 Hi:

Does anyone have recommendations regarding charting/graphing software
for Access XP? I'm currently a bit annoyed with the built-in charting
capabilities for Access; it doesn't do the things I need (or at least I
can't discover how to do it).

Basically, I just need a flexible solution to create bar/line/pie
graphs. The component should have the following features:

1. Ability to set colors (EX: Everytime I graph maintenance code "05",
I'd like it to be RED) via code. (this is my main problem with Microsoft
Graph right now).

2. Flexible labeling capabilities.

3. Compatible with Access XP.

4. Good output options ... Most of the graphs/charts will be printed.

Thanks in advance for any help/advice.  

Larry Mrazek
LCM Research, Inc.
www.lcm-res.com
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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Mon Nov 22 10:45:07 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:45:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Macro Security in Runtime "issue"...
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74486B4D@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

I think Helen Feddema has something on this on her site.  It's got to do with signing the code.

HTH,

Jim DeMarco

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Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 10:33 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Macro Security in Runtime "issue"...


Hello everyone!

Is there a way to shut off the security messages you get in Access 2003 in
a runtime version of an application?  I have them shut off on my computer
and it works fine here, but when I have the customer install it on their
computer(s) (they don't have Access installed at all), they get the
messages on startup about unsafe expressions, etc.  They can't shut them
off on their computers because the application doesn't allow access to
those areas (restricted menus).

I was hoping to be able to do it internally (in vb), but that's probably
exactly what MS is trying to prevent with the security.  So far they've
succeeded and I've failed...and turning warnings on/off doesn't do it
either.

Of course, if they have Access installed, I'll tell them to just shut off
the macro security (set it to 'low')...which has it's inherent dangers,
but in most cases is ok.

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

TIA!

Greg Smith
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From kost36 at otenet.gr  Mon Nov 22 11:46:38 2004
From: kost36 at otenet.gr (Kostas Konstantinidis)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 19:46:38 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Some help please...
References: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKIEEBLGDAA.john@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <002601c4d0bb$388be310$0100a8c0@KOST36>

On a start form I use a list box witch on open responds like:
SELECT MT_basic_char.AM, [Last_name] & " " & [First_name] & " (" & 
[Father_name] & ", " & [year_born] & ")" AS patient
FROM MT_basic_char

I am trying to filter the patients names from a text box like:
Private Sub text_box_Change()
Me![list2].RowSource = "SELECT [Last_Name] FROM [MT_basic_char] WHERE 
[Last_Name] like '" & Me![text_box].Text & "*'"
End Sub

And continue with a double click to open tha main form filtered on:
Private Sub list2_DblClick(Cancel As Integer)
    Dim stDocName As String
    Dim stLinkCriteria As String
        stDocName = "MT_basic_char"
        stLinkCriteria = "[AM] = " & Me!list2.Value & ""
        DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria
End Sub

My question is: on text_box change how it could be possible to apear also 
all data: AM, Last_name, Father_name and year_born
in order to work the double click?

thank's a lot
/ kostas konstantinidis 




From JColby at dispec.com  Mon Nov 22 11:52:47 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:52:47 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF9A7@DISABILITYINS01>

Does anyone have code for linking to an excel spreadsheet?

If I manually create a link, the wizard finds all the fields, sets up with
the "first line has field names" etc.  Everything works fine.  However if
the table is not linked already, I need to create a tabledef, set the
SourceTableName and Connect properties.  If I then try to append the
tabledef to db.tabledefs I get an error that no fields are defined.  It is
obvious that a LOT more is involved here.  It appears that I have to open
the spreadsheet, get the first line, create fields with the data in the
first line, somehow figure out the datatype of each column etc.  Is there a
prebuilt code I can call to do all this stuff?  If the wizard can do it,
then the code behind the wizard could do it for me.

Has anyone ever done this?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy



From lists at theopg.com  Mon Nov 22 12:18:54 2004
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 18:18:54 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Accessing data in secured mdb from another secured
	mdbona different workgroup
In-Reply-To: <000201c4cfe9$9d282540$de1811d8@danwaters>
Message-ID: <000801c4d0bf$bab01790$920d6bd5@netboxxp>

Thanks Dan... I have discussed it with the client and it looks like as
an interim we will use ADO connections instead of linked tables :@) and
then in the long term we will be merging the two workgroups :@)))

Thanks again

Mark

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To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Accessing data in secured mdb from another
secured mdbona different workgroup


Mark,

If 'JoeJ' on secured Database A has a PID of 1234, then JoeJ will be
able to (programmatically) open and run secured Database B from Database
A if there is a JoeJ with PID of 1234 set up for Database B.

At one point when I was setting up a few different databases, I made
sure that the same people had the same PID's.  I never did set up the
method to run one from the other though.

Best of Luck,
Dan Waters
ProMation Systems

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MarkH
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 12:06 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Accessing data in secured mdb from another secured
mdb ona different workgroup

Hello All

Using AXP on WinXP

I have two databases secured on different workgroups and accessed from
different front ends. I need to be able to import data from one into the
other but am having problems as they are secured on different mdw's. I
could merge the two mdw's but that would be a bit of a pain.

Anyone know a simple solution?

Thanks in advance

Mark

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Nov 22 12:21:28 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 19:21:28 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet
Message-ID: <s1a23c4c.064@cactus.dk>

Hi John

Are you looking at the xls file as a database? It doesn't seem to be
the case.
The database has tables - worksheets or Named Ranges - it is those that
are to be linked.

/gustav

>>> JColby at dispec.com 22-11-2004 18:52:47 >>>
Does anyone have code for linking to an excel spreadsheet?

If I manually create a link, the wizard finds all the fields, sets up
with
the "first line has field names" etc.  Everything works fine.  However
if
the table is not linked already, I need to create a tabledef, set the
SourceTableName and Connect properties.  If I then try to append the
tabledef to db.tabledefs I get an error that no fields are defined.  It
is
obvious that a LOT more is involved here.  It appears that I have to
open
the spreadsheet, get the first line, create fields with the data in
the
first line, somehow figure out the datatype of each column etc.  Is
there a
prebuilt code I can call to do all this stuff?  If the wizard can do
it,
then the code behind the wizard could do it for me.

Has anyone ever done this?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy

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From JColby at dispec.com  Mon Nov 22 12:23:39 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:23:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] #Num!
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF9A8@DISABILITYINS01>

Does anyone know how to convert #Num! in a linked spreadsheet to a null or
something useable in Access?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy



From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Mon Nov 22 12:32:39 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Steve Conklin (Developer@UltraDNT))
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:32:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet
In-Reply-To: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF9A7@DISABILITYINS01>
Message-ID: <000701c4d0c1$a579e070$0200a8c0@COA3>

How about:
DoCmd.TransferSpreadsheet acLink, acSpreadsheetTypeExcel9, "sheet1",
"c:\temp\receipts.xls", True, "a1:h100"

Hth
Steve


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Colby, John
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 12:53 PM
To: 'AccessD at DatabaseAdvisors.com'
Subject: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet


Does anyone have code for linking to an excel spreadsheet?

If I manually create a link, the wizard finds all the fields, sets up
with the "first line has field names" etc.  Everything works fine.
However if the table is not linked already, I need to create a tabledef,
set the SourceTableName and Connect properties.  If I then try to append
the tabledef to db.tabledefs I get an error that no fields are defined.
It is obvious that a LOT more is involved here.  It appears that I have
to open the spreadsheet, get the first line, create fields with the data
in the first line, somehow figure out the datatype of each column etc.
Is there a prebuilt code I can call to do all this stuff?  If the wizard
can do it, then the code behind the wizard could do it for me.

Has anyone ever done this?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy

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From JColby at dispec.com  Mon Nov 22 12:38:52 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:38:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF9A9@DISABILITYINS01>

Gustav,

You can link directly to a sheet in a .xls file, whereupon that sheet looks
like a table in Access.  The tdf is what is used to manipulate the linked
table, at least in terms of discovering the name of the sheet, the name of
the file it links to etc.

I receive spreadsheets from the client.  I link them in to the database,
then write queries to append all the data from the spreadsheet into a raw
data table.  However, the spreadsheet is created by hand so the sheet name
internal to the spreadsheet is not necessarily consistent from file to file.
I am attempting to get the name of the sheet but have had instances where
that failed.  I have also had instances where I deleted the sheet and simply
need to "relink" the spreadsheet from scratch.

It is this process to which I am referring.  Given a spreadsheet with a
single sheet inside, with the data in a format such that the first line has
field names, how do I "link" the spreadsheet to Access programmatically?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk]
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 1:21 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet


Hi John

Are you looking at the xls file as a database? It doesn't seem to be
the case.
The database has tables - worksheets or Named Ranges - it is those that
are to be linked.

/gustav

>>> JColby at dispec.com 22-11-2004 18:52:47 >>>
Does anyone have code for linking to an excel spreadsheet?

If I manually create a link, the wizard finds all the fields, sets up
with
the "first line has field names" etc.  Everything works fine.  However
if
the table is not linked already, I need to create a tabledef, set the
SourceTableName and Connect properties.  If I then try to append the
tabledef to db.tabledefs I get an error that no fields are defined.  It
is
obvious that a LOT more is involved here.  It appears that I have to
open
the spreadsheet, get the first line, create fields with the data in
the
first line, somehow figure out the datatype of each column etc.  Is
there a
prebuilt code I can call to do all this stuff?  If the wizard can do
it,
then the code behind the wizard could do it for me.

Has anyone ever done this?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Nov 22 13:06:29 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:06:29 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8679D26B@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Are you trying to do it with DAO or ADO, John?  I have some ADO code I
wrote way back when to drop and recreate a textlink and it handled XL as
an option.  I've attached it for whatever use it might be.  Don't be
critical, this was early in my use of ADO.

Charlotte Foust

<Code>
Public Function LinkExternalFileADO(ByVal strTextFileName As String, _
                              ByVal strLinkTable As String, _
                              ByVal strLinkSpecRange As String, _
                              Optional blnXL As Boolean) As Boolean
    'Created by Charlotte Foust
    'drops and relinks the temp table
    'and returns a boolean value for
    'the success of the operation
    'last modified 7/5/2001
    'Sample call:  LinkTextFileADO("MyTable.tab","MyTable","MyTable
Spec")
    '
LinkTextFileADO("MySheet.xls","MySheet","MyRange",True)
    
    On Error GoTo Proc_err
    Dim cat As ADOX.Catalog
    Dim cnn As ADODB.Connection
    Dim errsCnn As ADODB.Errors
    Dim errCurr As ADODB.Error
    
    'initialize the return value
    LinkExternalFileADO = True
    
    'initialize the object variables
    Set cnn = CurrentProject.Connection
    Set cat = New ADOX.Catalog
    cat.ActiveConnection = cnn
    Set errsCnn = cnn.Errors
    errsCnn.Clear
    
    'if the file exists, try to link it
    If strLinkTable <> "" Then
    
      'If no path was included, use the current path
      If InStr(strTextFileName, "\") = 0 Then
      
        strTextFileName = CurrentProject.Path & "\" & strTextFileName
      End If 'InStr(strTextFileName, "\") = 0
      
     'if the file exists then ...
      If Dir(strTextFileName) <> "" Then
        On Error Resume Next
        
        'delete the existing table link
        cat.Tables.Delete strLinkTable
        On Error GoTo Proc_err
        
        'link either a text file or an Excel spreadsheet
        If Not blnXL Then
        
          'create a new link to the text file
          DoCmd.TransferText acLinkDelim, strLinkSpecRange, _
            strLinkTable, strTextFileName
            
        Else 'If Not blnXL
        
          'create a new link to the Excel file
          DoCmd.TransferSpreadsheet acLink, acSpreadsheetTypeExcel9, _
                          strLinkTable, strTextFileName, True,
strLinkSpecRange
        End If 'Not blnXL
        
      Else 'If Dir(strTextFileName) <> ""
      
        'not a valid filename or path
        LinkExternalFileADO = False
      End If 'Dir(strTextFileName) <> ""
    End If
    
Proc_exit:
  'cleanup and exit
  On Error Resume Next
  Set cat = Nothing
  Set errsCnn = Nothing
  Set errCurr = Nothing
  Set cnn = Nothing
  Exit Function
Proc_err:
  If errsCnn.Count > 0 Then
    For Each errCurr In errsCnn
      MsgBox "Error #" & errCurr.Number & "--" & errCurr.Description _
            & vbCrLf & CurrentProject.Name & ".LinkTextFileADO"
    Next errCurr
    errsCnn.Clear
  End If
  If Err <> 0 Then
    MsgBox Err.Number & "--" & Err.Description & vbCr _
            & " in LinkTextFileADO", vbOKOnly
  End If
  LinkExternalFileADO = False
  Resume Proc_exit
End Function 'LinkExternalFileADO(ByVal strTextFileName As String, _
                              ByVal strLinkTable As String, _
                              ByVal strLinkSpecRange As String, _
                              Optional blnXL As Boolean) As Boolean
</Code>


-----Original Message-----
From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 9:53 AM
To: 'AccessD at DatabaseAdvisors.com'
Subject: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet


Does anyone have code for linking to an excel spreadsheet?

If I manually create a link, the wizard finds all the fields, sets up
with the "first line has field names" etc.  Everything works fine.
However if the table is not linked already, I need to create a tabledef,
set the SourceTableName and Connect properties.  If I then try to append
the tabledef to db.tabledefs I get an error that no fields are defined.
It is obvious that a LOT more is involved here.  It appears that I have
to open the spreadsheet, get the first line, create fields with the data
in the first line, somehow figure out the datatype of each column etc.
Is there a prebuilt code I can call to do all this stuff?  If the wizard
can do it, then the code behind the wizard could do it for me.

Has anyone ever done this?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy

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From kost36 at otenet.gr  Mon Nov 22 13:22:33 2004
From: kost36 at otenet.gr (Kostas Konstantinidis)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 21:22:33 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Some help please...
References: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKIEEBLGDAA.john@winhaven.net>
	<002601c4d0bb$388be310$0100a8c0@KOST36>
Message-ID: <00a201c4d0c8$ab4d1a10$0100a8c0@KOST36>

Guys,
I have just found the solution...
The problem fixed

Thank's

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kostas Konstantinidis" <kost36 at otenet.gr>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 7:46 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Some help please...


> On a start form I use a list box witch on open responds like:
> SELECT MT_basic_char.AM, [Last_name] & " " & [First_name] & " (" & 
> [Father_name] & ", " & [year_born] & ")" AS patient
> FROM MT_basic_char
>
> I am trying to filter the patients names from a text box like:
> Private Sub text_box_Change()
> Me![list2].RowSource = "SELECT [Last_Name] FROM [MT_basic_char] WHERE 
> [Last_Name] like '" & Me![text_box].Text & "*'"
> End Sub
>
> And continue with a double click to open tha main form filtered on:
> Private Sub list2_DblClick(Cancel As Integer)
>    Dim stDocName As String
>    Dim stLinkCriteria As String
>        stDocName = "MT_basic_char"
>        stLinkCriteria = "[AM] = " & Me!list2.Value & ""
>        DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria
> End Sub
>
> My question is: on text_box change how it could be possible to apear also 
> all data: AM, Last_name, Father_name and year_born
> in order to work the double click?
>
> thank's a lot
> / kostas konstantinidis
>
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Mon Nov 22 15:35:52 2004
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 21:35:52 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Some help please...
In-Reply-To: <002601c4d0bb$388be310$0100a8c0@KOST36>
Message-ID: <BAY101-F13FE8085960102FE580D6BD2C60@phx.gbl>

Kostas,

If I understand correctly...you want to display other information besides 
the name for the user to make their choice from.  If you are using a combo 
box, you could include a PK in the select statement, indicate this as the 
'bound column' on the properties of the combo box, hide this field with the 
'column widths' property, and then use this field to filter the main form.

Hope this helps.

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

>From: "Kostas Konstantinidis" <kost36 at otenet.gr>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: [AccessD] Some help please...
>Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 19:46:38 +0200
>
>On a start form I use a list box witch on open responds like:
>SELECT MT_basic_char.AM, [Last_name] & " " & [First_name] & " (" & 
>[Father_name] & ", " & [year_born] & ")" AS patient
>FROM MT_basic_char
>
>I am trying to filter the patients names from a text box like:
>Private Sub text_box_Change()
>Me![list2].RowSource = "SELECT [Last_Name] FROM [MT_basic_char] WHERE 
>[Last_Name] like '" & Me![text_box].Text & "*'"
>End Sub
>
>And continue with a double click to open tha main form filtered on:
>Private Sub list2_DblClick(Cancel As Integer)
>    Dim stDocName As String
>    Dim stLinkCriteria As String
>        stDocName = "MT_basic_char"
>        stLinkCriteria = "[AM] = " & Me!list2.Value & ""
>        DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria
>End Sub
>
>My question is: on text_box change how it could be possible to apear also 
>all data: AM, Last_name, Father_name and year_born
>in order to work the double click?
>
>thank's a lot
>/ kostas konstantinidis
>
>
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Nov 22 15:39:48 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:39:48 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Macro Security in Runtime "issue"...
References: <000c01c4d096$4efde370$fa10a8c0@Albatross>
	<1360.65.118.249.206.1101137603.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
Message-ID: <41A25CA4.806@shaw.ca>


Get their network guy to change the following registry settings of the
following key, should help you change the security level of the macro in 
Access 2003. He should be able to change this globally across the 
network for each client PC, there is even a way to do this from Access 
VBA code using WMI with proper network permissions.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Access\Security\Level

If the value is 1, then the macro security of Access 2003 is set to low.
If the value is 2, then the macro security of Access 2003 is set to medium.
If the value is 3, then the macro security of Access 2003 is set to high.

WARNING: If you use Registry Editor incorrectly, you may cause serious 
problems that may require you to reinstall your operating system. 
Microsoft cannot guarantee that you can solve problems that result from 
using Registry Editor incorrectly. Use Registry Editor at your own risk.
--------------
or you could try this subroutine to execute on the runtime startup as 
toolbar menus are disabled by runtime methods

maybe after checking this is set. I forget the order of execution.
 Access.Application.AutomationSecurity = 1 ' msoAutomationSecurityLow

  This sub activates the Macro -> Security submenu to open
' the Macro Security dialog window for the user who is using
' the runtime version of Access '03 instead of the retail version,
' which may need to have the default security level changed in
' order to run the code in the modules.
'This sub requires the Microsoft Office 11.0 Library reference

http://www.access.qbuilt.com/html/vba.html#SetMacroSecLvl
-----------------
or
Sagekey has an Access 2003 MSI install script that avoids this but is $425.
----------------
or build your own security certicate but then you still have to install 
in users certificate pool

There are some easier ways but not if it is a runtime

Greg Smith wrote:

>Hello everyone!
>
>Is there a way to shut off the security messages you get in Access 2003 in
>a runtime version of an application?  I have them shut off on my computer
>and it works fine here, but when I have the customer install it on their
>computer(s) (they don't have Access installed at all), they get the
>messages on startup about unsafe expressions, etc.  They can't shut them
>off on their computers because the application doesn't allow access to
>those areas (restricted menus).
>
>I was hoping to be able to do it internally (in vb), but that's probably
>exactly what MS is trying to prevent with the security.  So far they've
>succeeded and I've failed...and turning warnings on/off doesn't do it
>either.
>
>Of course, if they have Access installed, I'll tell them to just shut off
>the macro security (set it to 'low')...which has it's inherent dangers,
>but in most cases is ok.
>
>Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
>TIA!
>
>Greg Smith
>gregsmith at starband.net
>
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Nov 22 16:57:24 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:57:24 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Change SubDatasheetName to [None] in code?
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B8F@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <200411222257.iAMMvUx6021431@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Howdy
Create a Button on a form and call the button Command0 - form name is not
important

Copy everything below the line and paste it into the code behind the form

Make sure you have a DAO reference

Hope this helps

Darren

____________________________________________________________________
Private Sub Command0_Click()
	TurnOffSubDataSheets
End Sub 

Function TurnOffSubDataSheets()
  Dim MyDB As DAO.Database
  Dim MyProperty As DAO.Property
  
  Dim propName As String
  Dim PropType As Integer
  Dim propVal As String
  
  Dim strS As String
  
  Set MyDB = CurrentDb
  
  propName = "SubDataSheetName"
  PropType = 10
  propVal = "[NONE]"
  
  On Error Resume Next
  
  For i = 0 To MyDB.TableDefs.Count - 1
      
      If (MyDB.TableDefs(i).Attributes And dbSystemObject) = 0 Then

          If MyDB.TableDefs(i).Properties(propName).Value <> propVal Then
             MyDB.TableDefs(i).Properties(propName).Value = propVal
             intChangedTables = intChangedTables + 1
          End If
 
          If Err.Number = 3270 Then
             Set MyProperty = MyDB.TableDefs(i).CreateProperty(propName)
             MyProperty.Type = PropType
             MyProperty.Value = propVal
             MyDB.TableDefs(i).Properties.Append MyProperty
          Else
             If Err.Number <> 0 Then
                 MsgBox "Error: " & Err.Number & " on Table " _
                 & MyDB.TableDefs(i).Name & "."
                 MyDB.Close
                 Exit Function
             End If
          End If
          
      End If
  Next i

MsgBox "The " & propName & _
" value for all non-system tables has been updated to " & propVal & "."

MyDB.Close

End Function



From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Nov 22 16:57:24 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:57:24 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Design Problem
In-Reply-To: <F37DAC9A2964B144A2973EBCA8C54DBD018583A7@BURY2K23.bury.gov.uk>
Message-ID: <200411222257.iAMMvUx7021431@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Richard
Just had the same design Q myself last week
The consensus was to merge My Client and Organisation tables into 1 table
and have an Identifier similar to IsClientOrOrg (Client = 1 Org = 2)
Saved me a whole bunch of issues and I have moved on from that 'difficult'
problem

Hope this helps

See ya

DD

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Griffiths,
Richard
Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2004 12:16 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Design Problem


Thanks Kath, Chris for your reply - this was my original thinking but then I
had doubts. As the Recipients really may only have a name (and maybe
address) I wondered whether they should have their own table.  I will simply
have to add logic to my FE (and have fields such as IsOrganisation,
IsRecipient flags/fields on my Client table) so that when adding new
Requestor Clients it displays invoice, vat etc details - but not for
Recipient Clients.
Richard


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: 22 November 2004 11:41
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Design Problem

Richard - I think if it was me I would only have one client table, from what
you have said, but with 3 separate fields there, eg.

'Job' table:
Job ID (autonumber)
RequestorID (related to Client ID in Client table) PrincipalClientID
(related to Client ID in Client table) RecipientID (related to Client ID in
Client table)

'Client' table
Client ID (autonumber)
Name details
Address details


The fields RequestorID, PrincipalClientID and RecipientID would all relate
to one Client table.

That way all 'client' data would be stored in the one table and never
duplicated, and you would have the flexibility of having any combination of
the 3 fields in the Job table. The only mandatory field (it appears) would
be the RequestorID.

HTH

Kath

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Griffiths, Richard
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
  Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 10:28 PM
  Subject: [AccessD] Design Problem


  Hi Group

   

  I am having a brain blockage - can anyone help. I will try to be as
  brief as possible.

  I can't figure out how to design this one.  Seems like different options
  - not sure which way to go.

  Here goes (may not be as complicated as it appears) - sorry its so long.

   

  Scenario:

   

  Client_1 (which can be an organisation or individual) can request a Job
  (interpretation) 

  The Job can be carried out on behalf of a second Client_2  or not.

  The job may have a Patient/recipient (client_3??) of the job
  (interpreation) or not.

   

  Example 1

  Charity OrgA (Client 1) requests an interpretation for a Medical Centre
  (Dr Smith - Client 2) and 

  Mrs Jones (client 3/Patient) is the person receiving teh interpretation.

   

  Example 2

  Charity OrgA (Client 1) requests an interpretation for a itself (Client
  1) and the Recipient/Patient is itself(client_1) 

   

  Example 3

  Medical Centre (was previously Client 2) requests an interpretation for
  a itself (Client 2) 

   

  What I am confused is whether to have one Client Table (that accomodates
  Orgs/Customers and Individuals/Patients)

  Or have 3 separate tables Client_1 table, Client_2 (aka Customer) table
  and a Patient/Person Table.

   

  All 3 entities hold address/contact info (Client 1 table needs to store
  invoice/finance data as well)

   

  To give a job table like this

   

  JobTable

  ========

  JobID

  ClientID_1--------->Client_1_table

  ClientID_2--------->Client_1_table

  ClientID_3--------->Client_1_table

  Other fields

  .....

   

  or

   

  JobID

  ClientID_1--------->Client_1_table

  ClientID_2--------->Client_2_table

  ClientID_3--------->Client_3_table

  Other fields

  .....

   

  The second option means that when Client_1 requests a job for itself the
  address data etc is duplicated into the Client_2 and Client_3 tables 

  - does this really matter?  Equally the Medical Centre (Client_2) may
  next week be Client_1 (request a job/service itself)

   

  Finally one more question is that I can't decide whether to do this as
  well - even thought there is a one-to-one job_client relationship

  (rather than store Client_1_ID, Client_2_ID, Client_3_ID in job table as
  above) do this????

   

  JobTable

  ========

  JobID

  Other fields

  .....

   

  JobClient_1_Table

  =================

  JobID

  Client_1_ID

  ......

   

  JobClient_2_Table

  =================

  JobID

  Client_2_ID

  ......

   

  JobClient_3_Table

  =================

  JobID

  Client_3_ID

  ......

   

   

  Any thoughts?

  Many thanks

   

  Richard

   

   

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From lmrazek at lcm-res.com  Mon Nov 22 17:13:28 2004
From: lmrazek at lcm-res.com (Lawrence Mrazek)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 17:13:28 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] ActiveX Charting Control For Access?
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B90@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <200411221813467.SM01820@hplaptop>

Hi Charlotte:

I'm currently evaluating components from ChartFX, ComponentOne and Nevron.
Microsoft Graph provides about 80% of the functionality I need; I'm done
trying to make it work. 

Thanks for the advice. 

Larry Mrazek
LCM Research, Inc.
www.lcm-res.com
lmrazek at lcm-res.com
ph. 314-432-5886
fx. 314-432-3304

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 10:45 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] ActiveX Charting Control For Access?

Have you looked at ChartFX?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 5:45 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] ActiveX Charting Control For Access?


 Hi:

Does anyone have recommendations regarding charting/graphing software
for Access XP? I'm currently a bit annoyed with the built-in charting
capabilities for Access; it doesn't do the things I need (or at least I
can't discover how to do it).

Basically, I just need a flexible solution to create bar/line/pie
graphs. The component should have the following features:

1. Ability to set colors (EX: Everytime I graph maintenance code "05",
I'd like it to be RED) via code. (this is my main problem with Microsoft
Graph right now).

2. Flexible labeling capabilities.

3. Compatible with Access XP.

4. Good output options ... Most of the graphs/charts will be printed.

Thanks in advance for any help/advice.  

Larry Mrazek
LCM Research, Inc.
www.lcm-res.com
lmrazek at lcm-res.com
ph. 314-432-5886
fx. 314-432-3304


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From artful at rogers.com  Mon Nov 22 17:18:16 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 18:18:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something
In-Reply-To: <000801c4d0a5$f9224350$de1811d8@danwaters>
References: <000801c4d0a5$f9224350$de1811d8@danwaters>
Message-ID: <41A273B8.7010207@rogers.com>

1. There are a pair of classic sentences that are used frequently to 
derail machine translators:
a) Bill sent me a bill which I forwarded to Bill.
b) Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.
(This one I capitalized to help you through it, although it still takes 
some work. To save you the trouble.... there is an English verb, to 
buffalo. It means to baffle, or perhaps to bullshit. As in, when the 
client asked question X, I buffaloed her. A particular variation on said 
action is known as the Buffalo buffalo. This is a version particular to 
the city -- as opposed to say the New Orleans buffalo. So, certain 
buffalo who happen to reside in Buffalo do the Buffalo buffalo to other 
buffalo who also happen to reside in Buffalo.)

There are many other variants on this problem, and to give my source 
credit they can be found in Steve Pinker's classic book "The Language 
Instinct". (For those unfamiliar with it and who also happen to wonder 
what the hell Noam Chomsky was on about, said book contains the most 
concise explication of Noam's basic theory that I have ever read.) Here 
are a few more nuggets for your translation-machine:

Deer Kill 180,000
Queen Mary Having Bottom Scraped

And of course, the old saw, from Marx (Groucho not Karl), "Time flies 
like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."

An even more remarkable one, also courtesty Mr. Pinker.... here are 2 
sentences, each spoken by a different person (presumably married to each 
other):

a. I'm leaving you.
b. Who is he?

This one is my favourite. The other ambiguities are resoluble by parsing 
the sentence in question carefully. But this latter is remarkable in that:
a) none of the words assembled convey a larger meaning (as is the case, 
for example, in "The New York Yankees").
b) all of the words assembled convey no inherent meaning (you have to 
assume a HUGE amount of cultural baggage in order to interpret this 
conversation; further, you have to assume certain mores, certain 
cultural perspectives, certain sexual preferences and so on, in order to 
make any sense of this snippet of conversation -- i.e. regardless of the 
gender of A, we can deduce that A is only interested in males, but that 
may be a faulty deduction; A could be bisexual and B unaware of this; it 
is also possible that A is leaving B not for someone else but simply 
because living with B is intolerable; and so on). IOW, virtually NONE of 
the meat in this conversation is contained either in the individual 
words or in their assemblage; ALL of the meaning is contained in the 
minds (and by extension the cultures) of the speakers.

I have a lot of European friends, and almost all of them have commented 
at one time or another on the elasticity of English. Consider the word 
"fuck". It can be used in so many ways that it boggles the minds of 
newcomers to the English language. I fucked a lovely woman last night. I 
fucked a business competitor this morning. I tried to repair my 
motorcycle but fucked it up. Fuck you! Fuck that! Fuck you and the horse 
you rode in on. Fuck me. And so on.

There's a common (and I might add falacious) maxim that the Inuit have 
28 words for snow. This is true only in the sense that we have 100 words 
for cigarette or automobile (Honda Prelude, Dodge Caravan, etc.) The 
example cited above is the opposite phenomenon, as exemplified by 
another old riddle: Why is making love in a canoe like drinking 
Budweiser? Because it's fucking close to water.

Insofar as writing remains utterly ambiguous (a pretty tough 
proposition, but let's let that pass), then translation-engines have a 
slim chance of accuracy. To the extent that language is a joy, a thing 
to be savoured, played with, caressed, teased and fondled, then 
machine-translation has virtually no chance of success. If we go no 
further than translating "File | Open..." then we may be safe; ditto for 
various error messages.... but even there, I have to point out that once 
I taught a course, one of whose students was confined to a wheelchair, 
and when a message came up saying something like "Invalid parameter", 
she said, "I'm an invalid." Which in turn led me to consider what a 
horrid word that was to describe people in her condition. Such persons 
are not invalid; they are just as valid as you and me.

Yet another example. A close friend and colleague of mine, from Britain, 
gave me a copy of his new software to test. A couple of days later he 
asked me what I thought of it. I replied, "Not bad!". In Canada this is 
a compliment. In Britain this means that I couldn't find anything truly 
despicable to say about it, but was overall underwhelmed. His look of 
shock make me realize a cultural gap here of serious proportions.

Chevrolet at one point release an automobile called "Nova". In Spanish 
this means "Does not go." (Neuve is the word for New.)

All of which goes to say, do not trust translation-machines. If you need 
to translate, find a human.

One final example, taken from the annals of machine-translation 
literature. They had an English to Russian translator and its opposite. 
They fed in an English sentence, translated it to Russian, and then 
translated it back.

a) The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak.
b) The vodka is good but the meat is rotten.

Arthur

Dan Waters wrote:

>I did some internet research and found that there apparently isn't
>anything that does 'perfect' translations - that is left to actual
>people!  It did seem that there were some not inexpensive software
>solutions that would have been able to do a pretty good job.
>
>Translation on a PC is called Machine Translation.  Machine translation
>can take a document and take a 'first cut' at doing a translation.  Then
>someone who knows both languages can finish it off in less time.  I'm
>going to recommend this approach to my client.
>
>This first cut can be done from Word.  
>	Open a Word document and highlight some text. 
>	Select Tools | Language | Translate.
>	A Translate pane will appear at the right.
>	At the bottom see 'Translate via the Web'.
>	Select the language translation you want.
>	Push Go.
>	A web site will open with the Machine translation of the text
>		you highlighted.  
>
>I tried to use the Look up in Dictionary feature, but that always came
>back with No Suggestions.
>
>Dan Waters
>ProMation Systems
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 7:04 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
>Something
>
>No not on the fly.  Every report is saved twice (once for English,
>another for Spanish).  This was all set up before I got here but I think
>the difference in the text sizes (lengths) between the languages was a
>major reason.
>
>Jim DeMarco
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters
>Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 3:49 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
>Something
>
>
>Jim,
>
>Are your reports partially translated on the fly?  If not it seems that
>you would need to have your original text information recorded in two
>separate places - one for each language?
>
>If on the fly how is this done?
>
>Dan
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:28 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
>Something
>
>We have two of everything here at this point.  Pick the language, print
>the correct version report.
>
>Jim DeMarco
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
>Foust
>Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:28 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
>Something
>
>
>Switch to VB.Net and XML?  (well, it IS Friday) :-}
>
>Charlotte Foust
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com] 
>Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 7:44 AM
>To: Database Advisors
>Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something
>
>
>I have a client who would like their system to be able to present
>reports in different languages, based on a selection made on-screen by
>the reader.  How would I get started making this happen?  
>
> 
>
>Thanks,
>
>Dan Waters
>
>ProMation Systems
>
>  
>


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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Nov 22 17:33:54 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 17:33:54 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] ActiveX Charting Control For Access?
In-Reply-To: <28941432.1101165439819.JavaMail.root@sniper17.securence.com>
Message-ID: <001001c4d0eb$bb2802b0$de1811d8@danwaters>

Larry,

Office Web Components might work for you.  It's not an ActiveX component
- you set references to a couple of dll's.  I'm pretty certain that you
can set colors for series.  

HTH,
Dan Waters
ProMation Systems

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lawrence
Mrazek
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 5:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] ActiveX Charting Control For Access?

Hi Charlotte:

I'm currently evaluating components from ChartFX, ComponentOne and
Nevron.
Microsoft Graph provides about 80% of the functionality I need; I'm done
trying to make it work. 

Thanks for the advice. 

Larry Mrazek
LCM Research, Inc.
www.lcm-res.com
lmrazek at lcm-res.com
ph. 314-432-5886
fx. 314-432-3304

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 10:45 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] ActiveX Charting Control For Access?

Have you looked at ChartFX?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Lawrence Mrazek [mailto:lmrazek at lcm-res.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 5:45 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] ActiveX Charting Control For Access?


 Hi:

Does anyone have recommendations regarding charting/graphing software
for Access XP? I'm currently a bit annoyed with the built-in charting
capabilities for Access; it doesn't do the things I need (or at least I
can't discover how to do it).

Basically, I just need a flexible solution to create bar/line/pie
graphs. The component should have the following features:

1. Ability to set colors (EX: Everytime I graph maintenance code "05",
I'd like it to be RED) via code. (this is my main problem with Microsoft
Graph right now).

2. Flexible labeling capabilities.

3. Compatible with Access XP.

4. Good output options ... Most of the graphs/charts will be printed.

Thanks in advance for any help/advice.  

Larry Mrazek
LCM Research, Inc.
www.lcm-res.com
lmrazek at lcm-res.com
ph. 314-432-5886
fx. 314-432-3304


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From artful at rogers.com  Mon Nov 22 20:09:29 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 21:09:29 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Schedule a Query to run once a month
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Message-ID: <41A29BD9.5040304@rogers.com>

I could be wrong, since I have never done this, but I'll take a WAG. 
Create a shortcut to the specific query, then schedule its execution 
using the Scheduler.

Arthur

Joe Hecht wrote:

>Based on other discussions in this group, you need to have some program or
>operating system scheduled event to call the mdb.
>
>Joe Hecht
>jmhla at earthlink.net
>28g
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Geller
>Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 7:41 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Schedule a Query to run once a month
>
>I have an mdb file that has an update query.  I want this update query
>to run once a month at a specific time. For example, the 28th day of the
>month at 11:00 am.  Is there a way to set this up to run even if the mdb
>file is not open?
>
>--Susan
>
>Susan B. Geller
>Office of Information Systems
>College of Continuing Education
>University of Minnesota
>306 Wesbrook Hall
>77 Pleasant Street SE
>Minneapolis, MN 55455
>Phone:  612-626-4785
>Fax:  612-625-2568
>
>
>  
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From mcaro at bigpond.net.au  Mon Nov 22 20:45:58 2004
From: mcaro at bigpond.net.au (Martin Caro)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 13:45:58 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] UNDO -  Subform from Parent
Message-ID: <004f01c4d106$901d1310$0100000a@MITSERVER>

Ho folks

Can anyone help me with the syntax to run an Undo on a subform from a button located in the parent form...... 
(how to run an Undo from a sub on its parent has been asked before... Darren Dick 03/06/2004) but I need it around the other way so it should be possible.

Thanks

Martin


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Nov 22 21:26:56 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:26:56 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] UNDO -  Subform from Parent
In-Reply-To: <004f01c4d106$901d1310$0100000a@MITSERVER>
Message-ID: <002f01c4d10c$4d01e8c0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Martin,

One issue you will run into is that a record is saved when focus leaves the
form.  Thus if a user is entering records in the subform and leaves the
subform to click an undo on the parent, the changes in the child are saved
and undo can no longer be used.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 9:46 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] UNDO - Subform from Parent


Ho folks

Can anyone help me with the syntax to run an Undo on a subform from a button
located in the parent form...... 
(how to run an Undo from a sub on its parent has been asked before... Darren
Dick 03/06/2004) but I need it around the other way so it should be
possible.

Thanks

Martin
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Nov 22 21:30:10 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 21:30:10 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] UNDO -  Subform from Parent
In-Reply-To: <3269189.1101178071452.JavaMail.root@sniper13.securence.com>
Message-ID: <000201c4d10c$bcfce6c0$de1811d8@danwaters>

Martin,

Try 'Me.subFrame.Form.Undo'

The subFrame is the name of the container for the subform itself.

Dan Waters
ProMation Systems

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Caro
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 8:46 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] UNDO - Subform from Parent

Ho folks

Can anyone help me with the syntax to run an Undo on a subform from a
button located in the parent form...... 
(how to run an Undo from a sub on its parent has been asked before...
Darren Dick 03/06/2004) but I need it around the other way so it should
be possible.

Thanks

Martin
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From mcaro at bigpond.net.au  Mon Nov 22 22:45:46 2004
From: mcaro at bigpond.net.au (Martin Caro)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:45:46 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] UNDO -  Subform from Parent
References: <000201c4d10c$bcfce6c0$de1811d8@danwaters>
Message-ID: <00a001c4d117$4c21e800$0100000a@MITSERVER>

As John pointed out the record is saved as the subform loses focus so I've
changed tack and decided to place an undo button inside each of my
subforms.... not ideal as I wanted to keep all my buttons together but....it
works!

Thanks John & Dan

Martin

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To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 2:30 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] UNDO - Subform from Parent


> Martin,
>
> Try 'Me.subFrame.Form.Undo'
>
> The subFrame is the name of the container for the subform itself.
>
> Dan Waters
> ProMation Systems
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Caro
> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 8:46 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] UNDO - Subform from Parent
>
> Ho folks
>
> Can anyone help me with the syntax to run an Undo on a subform from a
> button located in the parent form......
> (how to run an Undo from a sub on its parent has been asked before...
> Darren Dick 03/06/2004) but I need it around the other way so it should
> be possible.
>
> Thanks
>
> Martin
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From mark.breen at gmail.com  Tue Nov 23 02:18:08 2004
From: mark.breen at gmail.com (Mark Breen)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:18:08 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet
In-Reply-To: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF9A7@DISABILITYINS01>
References: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF9A7@DISABILITYINS01>
Message-ID: <26a96cce04112300187eeb9f04@mail.gmail.com>

Hello John,

It is quite easy to talk to Excel, but I guess that it depends on what
you need to achieve and which way you prefer to go about it.

I have just completed five days coding, on-site for a large European
retailer that are very, very security conscious.  Unfortunately for
you, I am not allowed to take work off site, believe it or not, I am
not even allowed on the Internet or email.  If it was not for that, I
would just give you the mdb.

In a nutshell, it prepares some data using normal queries.  Once
ready, I open an instance of Excel, add a sheet and then start poking
the values into excel.  The first two or three cells require that you
get used to it, but once they are done, you can then fill the whole
sheet.  I am writing about 35000 cells of data from within nested
loops that work down and across the page.

>From that point, you can then programatically format the entire excel
sheet, including setting page setups etc.

I use the Macro Recorder to get the bones of the VBA that you need and
then bring it back into Access.

One thing that you have to be aware of is the object model in Excel.  

For example, the following code stumped me for a while yesterday

I have three variables 
objXLApp as Excel. Application
objXLBook as Excel.Workbook
objXLSht as Excel.WorkSheet

The following lines are how they are written in Access
objXLSht.Range("A1", "C3").Select
objXLApp.Selection.Font.Bold = True

I would have presumed that it would have been objXLSht on the second
line of code.

Anyway, it is not an Excel table, but I may suit you to just
programatically pull the data in.

Best of luck,

Mark




On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:52:47 -0500, Colby, John <jcolby at dispec.com> wrote:
> Does anyone have code for linking to an excel spreadsheet?
> 
> If I manually create a link, the wizard finds all the fields, sets up with
> the "first line has field names" etc.  Everything works fine.  However if
> the table is not linked already, I need to create a tabledef, set the
> SourceTableName and Connect properties.  If I then try to append the
> tabledef to db.tabledefs I get an error that no fields are defined.  It is
> obvious that a LOT more is involved here.  It appears that I have to open
> the spreadsheet, get the first line, create fields with the data in the
> first line, somehow figure out the datatype of each column etc.  Is there a
> prebuilt code I can call to do all this stuff?  If the wizard can do it,
> then the code behind the wizard could do it for me.
> 
> Has anyone ever done this?
> 
> John W. Colby
> The DIS Database Guy
> 
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov 23 03:27:14 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:27:14 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
	Something
Message-ID: <s1a3108b.073@cactus.dk>

Wonderful! Thank you so much Arthur.

/gustav

>>> artful at rogers.com 23-11-2004 00:18:16 >>>
1. There are a pair of classic sentences that are used frequently to 
derail machine translators:
a) Bill sent me a bill which I forwarded to Bill.
b) Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.
(This one I capitalized to help you through it, although it still takes

some work. To save you the trouble.... there is an English verb, to 
buffalo. It means to baffle, or perhaps to bullshit. As in, when the 
client asked question X, I buffaloed her. A particular variation on
said 
action is known as the Buffalo buffalo. This is a version particular to

the city -- as opposed to say the New Orleans buffalo. So, certain 
buffalo who happen to reside in Buffalo do the Buffalo buffalo to other

buffalo who also happen to reside in Buffalo.)

There are many other variants on this problem, and to give my source 
credit they can be found in Steve Pinker's classic book "The Language 
Instinct". (For those unfamiliar with it and who also happen to wonder

what the hell Noam Chomsky was on about, said book contains the most 
concise explication of Noam's basic theory that I have ever read.) Here

are a few more nuggets for your translation-machine:

Deer Kill 180,000
Queen Mary Having Bottom Scraped

And of course, the old saw, from Marx (Groucho not Karl), "Time flies 
like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."

An even more remarkable one, also courtesty Mr. Pinker.... here are 2 
sentences, each spoken by a different person (presumably married to
each 
other):

a. I'm leaving you.
b. Who is he?

This one is my favourite. The other ambiguities are resoluble by
parsing 
the sentence in question carefully. But this latter is remarkable in
that:
a) none of the words assembled convey a larger meaning (as is the case,

for example, in "The New York Yankees").
b) all of the words assembled convey no inherent meaning (you have to 
assume a HUGE amount of cultural baggage in order to interpret this 
conversation; further, you have to assume certain mores, certain 
cultural perspectives, certain sexual preferences and so on, in order
to 
make any sense of this snippet of conversation -- i.e. regardless of
the 
gender of A, we can deduce that A is only interested in males, but that

may be a faulty deduction; A could be bisexual and B unaware of this;
it 
is also possible that A is leaving B not for someone else but simply 
because living with B is intolerable; and so on). IOW, virtually NONE
of 
the meat in this conversation is contained either in the individual 
words or in their assemblage; ALL of the meaning is contained in the 
minds (and by extension the cultures) of the speakers.

I have a lot of European friends, and almost all of them have commented

at one time or another on the elasticity of English. Consider the word

"fuck". It can be used in so many ways that it boggles the minds of 
newcomers to the English language. I fucked a lovely woman last night.
I 
fucked a business competitor this morning. I tried to repair my 
motorcycle but fucked it up. Fuck you! Fuck that! Fuck you and the
horse 
you rode in on. Fuck me. And so on.

There's a common (and I might add falacious) maxim that the Inuit have

28 words for snow. This is true only in the sense that we have 100
words 
for cigarette or automobile (Honda Prelude, Dodge Caravan, etc.) The 
example cited above is the opposite phenomenon, as exemplified by 
another old riddle: Why is making love in a canoe like drinking 
Budweiser? Because it's fucking close to water.

Insofar as writing remains utterly ambiguous (a pretty tough 
proposition, but let's let that pass), then translation-engines have a

slim chance of accuracy. To the extent that language is a joy, a thing

to be savoured, played with, caressed, teased and fondled, then 
machine-translation has virtually no chance of success. If we go no 
further than translating "File | Open..." then we may be safe; ditto
for 
various error messages.... but even there, I have to point out that
once 
I taught a course, one of whose students was confined to a wheelchair,

and when a message came up saying something like "Invalid parameter", 
she said, "I'm an invalid." Which in turn led me to consider what a 
horrid word that was to describe people in her condition. Such persons

are not invalid; they are just as valid as you and me.

Yet another example. A close friend and colleague of mine, from
Britain, 
gave me a copy of his new software to test. A couple of days later he 
asked me what I thought of it. I replied, "Not bad!". In Canada this is

a compliment. In Britain this means that I couldn't find anything truly

despicable to say about it, but was overall underwhelmed. His look of 
shock make me realize a cultural gap here of serious proportions.

Chevrolet at one point release an automobile called "Nova". In Spanish

this means "Does not go." (Neuve is the word for New.)

All of which goes to say, do not trust translation-machines. If you
need 
to translate, find a human.

One final example, taken from the annals of machine-translation 
literature. They had an English to Russian translator and its opposite.

They fed in an English sentence, translated it to Russian, and then 
translated it back.

a) The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak.
b) The vodka is good but the meat is rotten.

Arthur



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov 23 04:36:31 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:36:31 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet
Message-ID: <s1a320df.075@cactus.dk>

Hi John

That is what I mean. You open the workbook as a database, then browse
the TableDefs collection and pick the table(s) you wish to link, be it
by item or name:

<code>

Function CheckXls()

  Dim dbs As DAO.Database
  Dim tdf As DAO.TableDef
  
  Set dbs = DBEngine(0).OpenDatabase("d:\temp\yourworkbook.xls", False,
True, "Excel 5.0;HDR=YES;IMEX=2;")
  Debug.Print dbs.TableDefs.Count & " table(s):"
  For Each tdf In dbs.TableDefs
    Debug.Print , tdf.Name
  Next
  dbs.Close

  Set tdf = Nothing
  Set dbs = Nothing
  
End Function

</code>

Note that worksheet names carries a trailing "$" while Named Ranges
don't.
See my recent posting on "Search for linked documents...."

/gustav

>>> JColby at dispec.com 22-11-2004 19:38:52 >>>
Gustav,

You can link directly to a sheet in a .xls file, whereupon that sheet
looks
like a table in Access.  The tdf is what is used to manipulate the
linked
table, at least in terms of discovering the name of the sheet, the name
of
the file it links to etc.

I receive spreadsheets from the client.  I link them in to the
database,
then write queries to append all the data from the spreadsheet into a
raw
data table.  However, the spreadsheet is created by hand so the sheet
name
internal to the spreadsheet is not necessarily consistent from file to
file.
I am attempting to get the name of the sheet but have had instances
where
that failed.  I have also had instances where I deleted the sheet and
simply
need to "relink" the spreadsheet from scratch.

It is this process to which I am referring.  Given a spreadsheet with
a
single sheet inside, with the data in a format such that the first line
has
field names, how do I "link" the spreadsheet to Access
programmatically?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 1:21 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet


Hi John

Are you looking at the xls file as a database? It doesn't seem to be
the case.
The database has tables - worksheets or Named Ranges - it is those
that
are to be linked.

/gustav

>>> JColby at dispec.com 22-11-2004 18:52:47 >>>
Does anyone have code for linking to an excel spreadsheet?

If I manually create a link, the wizard finds all the fields, sets up
with
the "first line has field names" etc.  Everything works fine.  However
if
the table is not linked already, I need to create a tabledef, set the
SourceTableName and Connect properties.  If I then try to append the
tabledef to db.tabledefs I get an error that no fields are defined.  It
is
obvious that a LOT more is involved here.  It appears that I have to
open
the spreadsheet, get the first line, create fields with the data in
the
first line, somehow figure out the datatype of each column etc.  Is
there a
prebuilt code I can call to do all this stuff?  If the wizard can do
it,
then the code behind the wizard could do it for me.

Has anyone ever done this?

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov 23 05:04:39 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 12:04:39 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] #Num!
Message-ID: <s1a32773.076@cactus.dk>

Hi John

I don't think you can. 
An option might be to import the worksheet to a temp table. Then you
can manipulate the data as you wish.

If you find a method please let us know.

/gustav

>>> JColby at dispec.com 22-11-2004 19:23:39 >>>
Does anyone know how to convert #Num! in a linked spreadsheet to a null
or
something useable in Access?



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Nov 23 06:10:09 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 07:10:09 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] #Num!
In-Reply-To: <s1a32773.076@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <004601c4d155$64999a70$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

I'm trying to import it into a temp table and get a "numeric overflow" when
trying to do the append.  This even though I have converted ALL of the
fields to text.  The issue is coming from a date field with null in the
first record (but dates in most of the rest).  

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 6:05 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] #Num!


Hi John

I don't think you can. 
An option might be to import the worksheet to a temp table. Then you can
manipulate the data as you wish.

If you find a method please let us know.

/gustav

>>> JColby at dispec.com 22-11-2004 19:23:39 >>>
Does anyone know how to convert #Num! in a linked spreadsheet to a null or
something useable in Access?

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Nov 23 06:15:17 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 07:15:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet
In-Reply-To: <26a96cce04112300187eeb9f04@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004701c4d156$1804fff0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Mark,

I did the same kinds of thing down in Mexico.  A client ran a maquilladora
making clothing.  They were simply accustomed to Excel and able to
manipulate data in it for analysis so we always exported our data out to
Excel using similar concepts to what you are discussing.  Rarely poking a
cell at a time but often dropping the entire table out there.  Then my
friend would go in and format the data, manipulate it for summations etc.
all with the macro recorder on.  We would then in the end dump the data and
have Access run the macros that he created.  It worked very well!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:18 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet


Hello John,

It is quite easy to talk to Excel, but I guess that it depends on what you
need to achieve and which way you prefer to go about it.

I have just completed five days coding, on-site for a large European
retailer that are very, very security conscious.  Unfortunately for you, I
am not allowed to take work off site, believe it or not, I am not even
allowed on the Internet or email.  If it was not for that, I would just give
you the mdb.

In a nutshell, it prepares some data using normal queries.  Once ready, I
open an instance of Excel, add a sheet and then start poking the values into
excel.  The first two or three cells require that you get used to it, but
once they are done, you can then fill the whole sheet.  I am writing about
35000 cells of data from within nested loops that work down and across the
page.

>From that point, you can then programatically format the entire excel
sheet, including setting page setups etc.

I use the Macro Recorder to get the bones of the VBA that you need and then
bring it back into Access.

One thing that you have to be aware of is the object model in Excel.  

For example, the following code stumped me for a while yesterday

I have three variables 
objXLApp as Excel. Application
objXLBook as Excel.Workbook
objXLSht as Excel.WorkSheet

The following lines are how they are written in Access objXLSht.Range("A1",
"C3").Select objXLApp.Selection.Font.Bold = True

I would have presumed that it would have been objXLSht on the second line of
code.

Anyway, it is not an Excel table, but I may suit you to just programatically
pull the data in.

Best of luck,

Mark




On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:52:47 -0500, Colby, John <jcolby at dispec.com> wrote:
> Does anyone have code for linking to an excel spreadsheet?
> 
> If I manually create a link, the wizard finds all the fields, sets up 
> with the "first line has field names" etc.  Everything works fine.  
> However if the table is not linked already, I need to create a 
> tabledef, set the SourceTableName and Connect properties.  If I then 
> try to append the tabledef to db.tabledefs I get an error that no 
> fields are defined.  It is obvious that a LOT more is involved here.  
> It appears that I have to open the spreadsheet, get the first line, 
> create fields with the data in the first line, somehow figure out the 
> datatype of each column etc.  Is there a prebuilt code I can call to 
> do all this stuff?  If the wizard can do it, then the code behind the 
> wizard could do it for me.
> 
> Has anyone ever done this?
> 
> John W. Colby
> The DIS Database Guy
> 
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov 23 06:42:22 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 13:42:22 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] #Num!
Message-ID: <s1a33e41.080@cactus.dk>

Hi John

That's not nice. Who makes such spreadsheets?

How about saving (via code) the worksheet to a text file (.csv) and
then read this line by line validating the fields? Not very fancy, I
know, but what options are left?

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 23-11-2004 13:10:09 >>>
I'm trying to import it into a temp table and get a "numeric overflow"
when
trying to do the append.  This even though I have converted ALL of the
fields to text.  The issue is coming from a date field with null in
the
first record (but dates in most of the rest).  

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/ 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav
Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 6:05 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] #Num!


Hi John

I don't think you can. 
An option might be to import the worksheet to a temp table. Then you
can
manipulate the data as you wish.

If you find a method please let us know.

/gustav

>>> JColby at dispec.com 22-11-2004 19:23:39 >>>
Does anyone know how to convert #Num! in a linked spreadsheet to a null
or
something useable in Access?



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov 23 06:52:44 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 13:52:44 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet
Message-ID: <s1a340c1.082@cactus.dk>

Hi Mark

A client had a similar need. I followed John's advice and used this
method which is great because it separates the handling of data from the
formatting and design of the workbooks.

The solution has been running for a statistics database publishing each
month via e-mail neat spreadsheet reports for over two years without any
error.

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 23-11-2004 13:15:17 >>>
Mark,

I did the same kinds of thing down in Mexico.  A client ran a
maquilladora
making clothing.  They were simply accustomed to Excel and able to
manipulate data in it for analysis so we always exported our data out
to
Excel using similar concepts to what you are discussing.  Rarely poking
a
cell at a time but often dropping the entire table out there.  Then my
friend would go in and format the data, manipulate it for summations
etc.
all with the macro recorder on.  We would then in the end dump the data
and
have Access run the macros that he created.  It worked very well!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/ 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:18 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet


Hello John,

It is quite easy to talk to Excel, but I guess that it depends on what
you
need to achieve and which way you prefer to go about it.

I have just completed five days coding, on-site for a large European
retailer that are very, very security conscious.  Unfortunately for
you, I
am not allowed to take work off site, believe it or not, I am not even
allowed on the Internet or email.  If it was not for that, I would just
give
you the mdb.

In a nutshell, it prepares some data using normal queries.  Once ready,
I
open an instance of Excel, add a sheet and then start poking the values
into
excel.  The first two or three cells require that you get used to it,
but
once they are done, you can then fill the whole sheet.  I am writing
about
35000 cells of data from within nested loops that work down and across
the
page.

>From that point, you can then programatically format the entire excel
sheet, including setting page setups etc.

I use the Macro Recorder to get the bones of the VBA that you need and
then
bring it back into Access.

One thing that you have to be aware of is the object model in Excel.  

For example, the following code stumped me for a while yesterday

I have three variables 
objXLApp as Excel. Application
objXLBook as Excel.Workbook
objXLSht as Excel.WorkSheet

The following lines are how they are written in Access
objXLSht.Range("A1",
"C3").Select objXLApp.Selection.Font.Bold = True

I would have presumed that it would have been objXLSht on the second
line of
code.

Anyway, it is not an Excel table, but I may suit you to just
programatically
pull the data in.

Best of luck,

Mark



From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 23 07:05:40 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 05:05:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Search for linked documents....IN TABLES....
In-Reply-To: <20041122113102.67318.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20041123130540.52003.qmail@web61105.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi group,
 
it seemed that the users where not talking about linked tables but about linked documents in a table!
 
So I've got a table, this table has an oledb field in it. I found out how to search for this.
However, I now need to figure out how I can do the following:
1 - check if file is linked
2 - what type of file is linked (Word, Excel, etc)
3 - what is the version of the matching officeprogram (eg Word 97, Excell 2002)
4 - what is the location of the file
5 - what are the create, last modified, last opened date
 
Did anybody ever do something like this?
Does anybody know if there is some sort of object model that I can use for this eg like in Excell: Application => Workbook => worksheet, etc? 
Does anybody know to any tips on how to figure this out?! 
 
Thnx in advance!
 
Sander
 

S D <accessd667 at yahoo.com> wrote:
Have fun....haha..ha...hmmm I think we've got different ideas about fun 
Thnx for the, once again, great response.

Sander

Gustav Brock wrote:
Hi Sander

This is doable but not straight forward.

First, linked "documents" are treated as ISAM databases and tables. For
text and xBase and Paradox files, the directory is the "database" while
for Excel and Html the file is the database. Linked MAPI tables are even
more excotic so I will leave them for this. Linked ODBC tables are
complete different as they are identified by their connect strings.

Second, tables may be linked with other names than their true names.

This a query which will return all non-deleted links:

SELECT DISTINCT 
RTrim([Database]) AS DbsPath, 
MSysObjects.Connect, 
Hex(GetTableType([Flags])) AS TableType, 
MSysObjects.ForeignName, 
GetTrueForeignName(GetTableType([Flags]),[ForeignName]) AS
TrueForeignName, 
MSysObjects.Name AS LinkedName
FROM 
MSysObjects
WHERE 
(IsTablePresent([Flags])=True) 
AND 
(MSysObjects.Type=4 Or MSysObjects.Type=6);

It uses these supporting functions:



Declarations.

' Table types known.
'
' ODBC connection.
Private Const clngTableTypeNone As Long = &H0
' Note: MS MSDE/SQL Server has some higher bits set as well.
Private Const clngTableTypeOdbc As Long = &H100000
' Jet file attached by UNC name.
Private Const clngTableTypeJetUnc As Long = &H200000
' Jet file attached by mapped drive letter.
Private Const clngTableTypeJetDrive As Long = &H400000
Private Const clngTableTypeParadox As Long = &H700000
Private Const clngTableTypeDbase As Long = &H800000
Private Const clngTableTypeText As Long = &HA00000
Private Const clngTableTypeExcel As Long = &HB00000
Private Const clngTableTypeOutlook As Long = &HD00000
Private Const clngTableTypeHtml As Long = &HE00000

Public Function GetTrueForeignName( _
ByVal lngTableType As Long, _
ByVal strForeignName As String) _
As String

' Returns true foreign name for those ISAM table types
' where this is stored as an alias.
' Foreign names for other table types are not altered.
'
' Example Excel:
' Alias for worksheet: Sheet1$
' True name: Sheet1
' Example Paradox:
' Alias for table name: Pdoxfile#db
' True name: Pdoxfile.db
'
' 2004-05-10. Cactus Data ApS, CPH.

Const cstrSepDbase As String = "#"
Const cstrSepParadox As String = "#"
Const cstrSepText As String = "#"
Const cstrSepExcel As String = "$"
Const cstrRplExcel As String = vbNullString

Dim strTrueName As String
Dim lngPos As Long

Select Case lngTableType
Case clngTableTypeParadox
lngPos = InStr(strForeignName, cstrSepParadox)
If lngPos > 1 Then
strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, lngPos - 1)
Else
strTrueName = strForeignName
End If
Case clngTableTypeDbase
lngPos = InStr(strForeignName, cstrSepDbase)
If lngPos > 1 Then
strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, lngPos - 1)
Else
strTrueName = strForeignName
End If
Case clngTableTypeExcel
If Right(strForeignName, 1) = cstrSepExcel Then
' Worksheet. Strip traling "$".
strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, Len(strForeignName) - 1)
Else
' Named Range. Leave as is.
strTrueName = strForeignName
End If
Case clngTableTypeText
lngPos = InStr(strForeignName, cstrSepText)
If lngPos > 1 Then
strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, lngPos - 1)
Else
strTrueName = strForeignName
End If
Case Else
strTrueName = strForeignName
End Select

GetTrueForeignName = strTrueName

End Function

Public Function IsTablePresent( _
ByVal lngFlag As Long) _
As Boolean

' Returns True if a table is not flagged as deleted in MSysObjects.
' To be used in a query to extract currently attached tables.
'
' 2004-04-21. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.

Const clngFlagDeleted As Long = &H1001

Dim booDeleted As Boolean

booDeleted = lngFlag And clngFlagDeleted

IsTablePresent = Not booDeleted

End Function

Public Function GetTableType( _
ByVal lngFlag As Long) _
As Long

' Returns the table type from lngFlag in MSysObjects by rounding it to
' &H100000 which strips all minor flags including the hidden flag
(&H8)
' and all major flags - like &H20xxxxxx used by MS MSDE/SQL Server.
' To be used in a query to extract currently attached tables of a
specific type.
'
' 2004-04-21. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.

' Flag mask.
' Const clngFlagMajor As Long = &HFF000000
' Const clngFlagMinor As Long = &HFFFFF
Const clngFlagMask As Long = &HFF0FFFFF

Dim lngType As Long

lngType = lngFlag And Not clngFlagMask

GetTableType = lngType

End Function



Have fun!

/gustav

>>> accessd667 at yahoo.com 19-11-2004 14:57:55 >>>
Hi group,

I've got some code from the ADHB2K to search for linked tables.
However, it is also possible to link documents...office documents that
is. So I mean files with extions like:
.xls;
.txt;
etc

Q1: how can I search for these linked 'documents'?
Q2: how can I pinpoint the xls files from none xls files?

TIA

Sander

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From mark.breen at gmail.com  Tue Nov 23 07:08:18 2004
From: mark.breen at gmail.com (Mark Breen)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 13:08:18 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet
In-Reply-To: <004701c4d156$1804fff0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
References: <26a96cce04112300187eeb9f04@mail.gmail.com>
	<004701c4d156$1804fff0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <26a96cce041123050873eba6cb@mail.gmail.com>

Hello John,

Would it not give you more control to do it this way?  It is a little
more complex, but if gives you total control.

Especially if you use the tabledefs collection that Gustav describes
above.  That sounds interesting.

Best of Luck

Mark


On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 07:15:17 -0500, John W. Colby
<jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> Mark,
> 
> I did the same kinds of thing down in Mexico.  A client ran a maquilladora
> making clothing.  They were simply accustomed to Excel and able to
> manipulate data in it for analysis so we always exported our data out to
> Excel using similar concepts to what you are discussing.  Rarely poking a
> cell at a time but often dropping the entire table out there.  Then my
> friend would go in and format the data, manipulate it for summations etc.
> all with the macro recorder on.  We would then in the end dump the data and
> have Access run the macros that he created.  It worked very well!
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:18 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet
> 
> Hello John,
> 
> It is quite easy to talk to Excel, but I guess that it depends on what you
> need to achieve and which way you prefer to go about it.
> 
> I have just completed five days coding, on-site for a large European
> retailer that are very, very security conscious.  Unfortunately for you, I
> am not allowed to take work off site, believe it or not, I am not even
> allowed on the Internet or email.  If it was not for that, I would just give
> you the mdb.
> 
> In a nutshell, it prepares some data using normal queries.  Once ready, I
> open an instance of Excel, add a sheet and then start poking the values into
> excel.  The first two or three cells require that you get used to it, but
> once they are done, you can then fill the whole sheet.  I am writing about
> 35000 cells of data from within nested loops that work down and across the
> page.
> 
> >From that point, you can then programatically format the entire excel
> sheet, including setting page setups etc.
> 
> I use the Macro Recorder to get the bones of the VBA that you need and then
> bring it back into Access.
> 
> One thing that you have to be aware of is the object model in Excel.
> 
> For example, the following code stumped me for a while yesterday
> 
> I have three variables
> objXLApp as Excel. Application
> objXLBook as Excel.Workbook
> objXLSht as Excel.WorkSheet
> 
> The following lines are how they are written in Access objXLSht.Range("A1",
> "C3").Select objXLApp.Selection.Font.Bold = True
> 
> I would have presumed that it would have been objXLSht on the second line of
> code.
> 
> Anyway, it is not an Excel table, but I may suit you to just programatically
> pull the data in.
> 
> Best of luck,
> 
> Mark
> 
> On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:52:47 -0500, Colby, John <jcolby at dispec.com> wrote:
> > Does anyone have code for linking to an excel spreadsheet?
> >
> > If I manually create a link, the wizard finds all the fields, sets up
> > with the "first line has field names" etc.  Everything works fine.
> > However if the table is not linked already, I need to create a
> > tabledef, set the SourceTableName and Connect properties.  If I then
> > try to append the tabledef to db.tabledefs I get an error that no
> > fields are defined.  It is obvious that a LOT more is involved here.
> > It appears that I have to open the spreadsheet, get the first line,
> > create fields with the data in the first line, somehow figure out the
> > datatype of each column etc.  Is there a prebuilt code I can call to
> > do all this stuff?  If the wizard can do it, then the code behind the
> > wizard could do it for me.
> >
> > Has anyone ever done this?
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > The DIS Database Guy
> >
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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Tue Nov 23 07:25:49 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:25:49 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP - Access 2000
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4384B456@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

Inherited Database - not my fault.  For the moment, I have an XP front
end in A2K format that has a link to open up one of a gazillion backends
until I can migrate the gazillion backends to one big a* backend in SQL
with one front-end.  So... I develop in XP due to the .printer
capabilities.  When this code (inherited, not my fault) runs, I get the
dreaded 3033 error that I do not have the permissions to open up the
database it is pointing to.  If I open up Access 2000, I am able to open
up the database, no problem.  

Any ideas?  Would putting in the user id and password make this click?
Thanks for the help.


Private Sub Open_PartsDB()
'Hide ManufacturerDialog form, attach Parts Database tables, and open
frmMainParts

    'On Error GoTo Err_Open_PartsDB
    
    Dim strDocName As String
    Dim strLinkCriteria As String
    Dim tdfTmpParts As TableDef, tdfTmpPartsTC As TableDef,
tdfTmpPartsProt As TableDef
    Dim strPrefix As String
    Dim strTblName As String
    Dim strMfr As String
    
    Dim dbsDest As DAO.Database
    Set dbsDest = CurrentDb()
    
    
       
    'Create table objects
    
        Set tdfTmpParts = dbsDest.TableDefs("Parts")
        Set tdfTmpPartsTC = dbsDest.TableDefs("TC-Parts")
        Set tdfTmpPartsProt = dbsDest.TableDefs("TC-Protections")
      
    
    If IsNull(MfrID) Then
        MsgBox "Please click a manufacturer in the list"
    Else
        
        strDocName = "frmMainParts"
        strTblName = "Parts"
        strLinkCriteria = "q:\tc_parts\" & MfrID & "\" & MfrID & ".mdb"
        strPrefix = Left$(dbsDest.TableDefs("Parts").Connect,
InStr(tdfTmpParts.Connect, "="))
        tdfTmpParts.Connect = ";DATABASE=" & strLinkCriteria
        tdfTmpParts.RefreshLink
        strPrefix = Left$(dbsDest.TableDefs("TC-Parts").Connect,
InStr(tdfTmpPartsTC.Connect, "="))
        tdfTmpPartsTC.Connect = ";DATABASE=" & strLinkCriteria
        tdfTmpPartsTC.RefreshLink
        strPrefix = Left$(dbsDest.TableDefs("TC-Protections").Connect,
InStr(tdfTmpPartsProt.Connect, "="))
        tdfTmpPartsProt.Connect = ";DATABASE=" & strLinkCriteria
        tdfTmpPartsProt.RefreshLink
        
        If IsTableEmpty(strTblName) = True Then
                MsgBox "There are no records in the Parts Database for "
& MfrID & ".", , "Parts table is empty"
                Exit Sub
         End If
        
        DoCmd.OpenForm strDocName, acNormal
        Forms!frmMainParts![MfrCode] = [MfrID]
        Forms![frmMainParts]![MfrName] = DLookup("[ManufacturerName]",
"Manufacturers", "[ManufacturerCode] = MfrID")
        DoCmd.SetWarnings False
        DoCmd.OpenQuery ("~MakeMfrCode"), acNormal
        Me.Visible = False
        
    End If


From JHewson at karta.com  Tue Nov 23 07:35:31 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 07:35:31 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] #Num!
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068D00@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>


Couldn't you export 0 (zero) instead of null?
Would Nz() work?
Then delete all 0's in the Excel spreadsheet?

Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 6:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] #Num!


I'm trying to import it into a temp table and get a "numeric overflow" when
trying to do the append.  This even though I have converted ALL of the
fields to text.  The issue is coming from a date field with null in the
first record (but dates in most of the rest).  

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 6:05 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] #Num!


Hi John

I don't think you can. 
An option might be to import the worksheet to a temp table. Then you can
manipulate the data as you wish.

If you find a method please let us know.

/gustav

>>> JColby at dispec.com 22-11-2004 19:23:39 >>>
Does anyone know how to convert #Num! in a linked spreadsheet to a null or
something useable in Access?

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From actebs at actebs.com.au  Tue Nov 23 07:41:26 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 00:41:26 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] #Num!
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD5055833280886E9@starfleet.unknown.local>

John,

I'm pretty sure I've encountered this previously. Try using something like:

If IsError(YourFieldName) then
	whatever
else
	whatever
End if

HTH

Vlad


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Wednesday, 24 November 2004 12:36 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] #Num!



Couldn't you export 0 (zero) instead of null?
Would Nz() work?
Then delete all 0's in the Excel spreadsheet?

Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 6:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] #Num!


I'm trying to import it into a temp table and get a "numeric overflow" when
trying to do the append.  This even though I have converted ALL of the
fields to text.  The issue is coming from a date field with null in the
first record (but dates in most of the rest).  

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 6:05 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] #Num!


Hi John

I don't think you can. 
An option might be to import the worksheet to a temp table. Then you can
manipulate the data as you wish.

If you find a method please let us know.

/gustav

>>> JColby at dispec.com 22-11-2004 19:23:39 >>>
Does anyone know how to convert #Num! in a linked spreadsheet to a null or
something useable in Access?

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Nov 23 07:52:23 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:52:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] #Num!
In-Reply-To: <004601c4d155$64999a70$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <20041123135222.ZKJY2443.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

It's my experience, that most Excel error values need to be cured before
importing them into Access. 

Susan H. 

I'm trying to import it into a temp table and get a "numeric overflow" when
trying to do the append.  This even though I have converted ALL of the
fields to text.  The issue is coming from a date field with null in the
first record (but dates in most of the rest).  




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Nov 23 08:06:04 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:06:04 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet
In-Reply-To: <26a96cce041123050873eba6cb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004b01c4d165$9216db10$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Well... You mean to import one field at a time?  I am trying to get data in
to Access from Excel.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet


Hello John,

Would it not give you more control to do it this way?  It is a little more
complex, but if gives you total control.

Especially if you use the tabledefs collection that Gustav describes above.
That sounds interesting.

Best of Luck

Mark


On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 07:15:17 -0500, John W. Colby
<jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> Mark,
> 
> I did the same kinds of thing down in Mexico.  A client ran a 
> maquilladora making clothing.  They were simply accustomed to Excel 
> and able to manipulate data in it for analysis so we always exported 
> our data out to Excel using similar concepts to what you are 
> discussing.  Rarely poking a cell at a time but often dropping the 
> entire table out there.  Then my friend would go in and format the 
> data, manipulate it for summations etc. all with the macro recorder 
> on.  We would then in the end dump the data and have Access run the 
> macros that he created.  It worked very well!
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:18 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet
> 
> Hello John,
> 
> It is quite easy to talk to Excel, but I guess that it depends on what 
> you need to achieve and which way you prefer to go about it.
> 
> I have just completed five days coding, on-site for a large European 
> retailer that are very, very security conscious.  Unfortunately for 
> you, I am not allowed to take work off site, believe it or not, I am 
> not even allowed on the Internet or email.  If it was not for that, I 
> would just give you the mdb.
> 
> In a nutshell, it prepares some data using normal queries.  Once 
> ready, I open an instance of Excel, add a sheet and then start poking 
> the values into excel.  The first two or three cells require that you 
> get used to it, but once they are done, you can then fill the whole 
> sheet.  I am writing about 35000 cells of data from within nested 
> loops that work down and across the page.
> 
> >From that point, you can then programatically format the entire excel
> sheet, including setting page setups etc.
> 
> I use the Macro Recorder to get the bones of the VBA that you need and 
> then bring it back into Access.
> 
> One thing that you have to be aware of is the object model in Excel.
> 
> For example, the following code stumped me for a while yesterday
> 
> I have three variables
> objXLApp as Excel. Application
> objXLBook as Excel.Workbook
> objXLSht as Excel.WorkSheet
> 
> The following lines are how they are written in Access 
> objXLSht.Range("A1", "C3").Select objXLApp.Selection.Font.Bold = True
> 
> I would have presumed that it would have been objXLSht on the second 
> line of code.
> 
> Anyway, it is not an Excel table, but I may suit you to just 
> programatically pull the data in.
> 
> Best of luck,
> 
> Mark
> 
> On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:52:47 -0500, Colby, John <jcolby at dispec.com> 
> wrote:
> > Does anyone have code for linking to an excel spreadsheet?
> >
> > If I manually create a link, the wizard finds all the fields, sets 
> > up with the "first line has field names" etc.  Everything works 
> > fine. However if the table is not linked already, I need to create a 
> > tabledef, set the SourceTableName and Connect properties.  If I then 
> > try to append the tabledef to db.tabledefs I get an error that no 
> > fields are defined.  It is obvious that a LOT more is involved here. 
> > It appears that I have to open the spreadsheet, get the first line, 
> > create fields with the data in the first line, somehow figure out 
> > the datatype of each column etc.  Is there a prebuilt code I can 
> > call to do all this stuff?  If the wizard can do it, then the code 
> > behind the wizard could do it for me.
> >
> > Has anyone ever done this?
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > The DIS Database Guy
> >
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Nov 23 08:07:48 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:07:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] #Num!
In-Reply-To: <s1a33e41.080@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <004c01c4d165$d425ddd0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

I keep forgetting about this method.  I have never automated Excel to save a
sheet as a csv.  Does anyone have working code to do this?

John W. Colby
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 7:42 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] #Num!


Hi John

That's not nice. Who makes such spreadsheets?

How about saving (via code) the worksheet to a text file (.csv) and then
read this line by line validating the fields? Not very fancy, I know, but
what options are left?

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 23-11-2004 13:10:09 >>>
I'm trying to import it into a temp table and get a "numeric overflow" when
trying to do the append.  This even though I have converted ALL of the
fields to text.  The issue is coming from a date field with null in the
first record (but dates in most of the rest).  

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 6:05 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] #Num!


Hi John

I don't think you can. 
An option might be to import the worksheet to a temp table. Then you can
manipulate the data as you wish.

If you find a method please let us know.

/gustav

>>> JColby at dispec.com 22-11-2004 19:23:39 >>>
Does anyone know how to convert #Num! in a linked spreadsheet to a null or
something useable in Access?

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Nov 23 08:08:11 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:08:11 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] #Num!
In-Reply-To: <20041123135222.ZKJY2443.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <004d01c4d165$dd904c20$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Yup.  PITA for sure.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:52 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] #Num!


It's my experience, that most Excel error values need to be cured before
importing them into Access. 

Susan H. 

I'm trying to import it into a temp table and get a "numeric overflow" when
trying to do the append.  This even though I have converted ALL of the
fields to text.  The issue is coming from a date field with null in the
first record (but dates in most of the rest).  


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From mark.breen at gmail.com  Tue Nov 23 09:02:09 2004
From: mark.breen at gmail.com (Mark Breen)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:02:09 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet
In-Reply-To: <004b01c4d165$9216db10$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
References: <26a96cce041123050873eba6cb@mail.gmail.com>
	<004b01c4d165$9216db10$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <26a96cce04112307025890f150@mail.gmail.com>

All I am suggestions is that if you open a connection with the XL
workbook in question, you can take what you like, how you like, row by
row, col by col, as a range as gustav suggests, and taking his example
further, a complete sheet.

Depending on the volume and speed required, some of the options above
might not be relevant, but the may be options to consider.

With your programmatic skills, you can have the object model built in
30 minutes and then you can access (no pun intended) any data and put
it into MS Access where ever you like, specifying formats as you go.

Mark



On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:06:04 -0500, John W. Colby
<jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> Well... You mean to import one field at a time?  I am trying to get data in
> to Access from Excel.
> 
> 
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:08 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet
> 
> Hello John,
> 
> Would it not give you more control to do it this way?  It is a little more
> complex, but if gives you total control.
> 
> Especially if you use the tabledefs collection that Gustav describes above.
> That sounds interesting.
> 
> Best of Luck
> 
> Mark
> 
> On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 07:15:17 -0500, John W. Colby
> <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> > Mark,
> >
> > I did the same kinds of thing down in Mexico.  A client ran a
> > maquilladora making clothing.  They were simply accustomed to Excel
> > and able to manipulate data in it for analysis so we always exported
> > our data out to Excel using similar concepts to what you are
> > discussing.  Rarely poking a cell at a time but often dropping the
> > entire table out there.  Then my friend would go in and format the
> > data, manipulate it for summations etc. all with the macro recorder
> > on.  We would then in the end dump the data and have Access run the
> > macros that he created.  It worked very well!
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > http://folding.stanford.edu/
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:18 AM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linking to an excel spreadsheet
> >
> > Hello John,
> >
> > It is quite easy to talk to Excel, but I guess that it depends on what
> > you need to achieve and which way you prefer to go about it.
> >
> > I have just completed five days coding, on-site for a large European
> > retailer that are very, very security conscious.  Unfortunately for
> > you, I am not allowed to take work off site, believe it or not, I am
> > not even allowed on the Internet or email.  If it was not for that, I
> > would just give you the mdb.
> >
> > In a nutshell, it prepares some data using normal queries.  Once
> > ready, I open an instance of Excel, add a sheet and then start poking
> > the values into excel.  The first two or three cells require that you
> > get used to it, but once they are done, you can then fill the whole
> > sheet.  I am writing about 35000 cells of data from within nested
> > loops that work down and across the page.
> >
> > >From that point, you can then programatically format the entire excel
> > sheet, including setting page setups etc.
> >
> > I use the Macro Recorder to get the bones of the VBA that you need and
> > then bring it back into Access.
> >
> > One thing that you have to be aware of is the object model in Excel.
> >
> > For example, the following code stumped me for a while yesterday
> >
> > I have three variables
> > objXLApp as Excel. Application
> > objXLBook as Excel.Workbook
> > objXLSht as Excel.WorkSheet
> >
> > The following lines are how they are written in Access
> > objXLSht.Range("A1", "C3").Select objXLApp.Selection.Font.Bold = True
> >
> > I would have presumed that it would have been objXLSht on the second
> > line of code.
> >
> > Anyway, it is not an Excel table, but I may suit you to just
> > programatically pull the data in.
> >
> > Best of luck,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:52:47 -0500, Colby, John <jcolby at dispec.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Does anyone have code for linking to an excel spreadsheet?
> > >
> > > If I manually create a link, the wizard finds all the fields, sets
> > > up with the "first line has field names" etc.  Everything works
> > > fine. However if the table is not linked already, I need to create a
> > > tabledef, set the SourceTableName and Connect properties.  If I then
> > > try to append the tabledef to db.tabledefs I get an error that no
> > > fields are defined.  It is obvious that a LOT more is involved here.
> > > It appears that I have to open the spreadsheet, get the first line,
> > > create fields with the data in the first line, somehow figure out
> > > the datatype of each column etc.  Is there a prebuilt code I can
> > > call to do all this stuff?  If the wizard can do it, then the code
> > > behind the wizard could do it for me.
> > >
> > > Has anyone ever done this?
> > >
> > > John W. Colby
> > > The DIS Database Guy
> > >
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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Tue Nov 23 10:55:51 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:55:51 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] The form just won't save.
Message-ID: <16260-2200411223165551812@christopherhawkins.com>

I have an Access 2000 mdb file.  Within this file is a particular
form.  Whenever I try to save changes to the form's module, it just
won't save.  It hourglasses on me forever and eventually returns a
'Not Responding' message.

I have decompiled it.  I have recompiled it.  I have compacted it.  I
have repaired it.  

I do not know what else to do.

Plus I'm working with a fever.  Ack.

Thoughts?
Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov 23 11:08:13 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 18:08:13 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] The form just won't save.
Message-ID: <s1a37caa.093@cactus.dk>

Hi Christopher

Create a new database and import all objects from the other.

/gustav


From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Tue Nov 23 11:23:46 2004
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 12:23:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] The form just won't save.
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A283D@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Sounds like you need to import all the objects in the db to a fresh, empty
mdb file. 

I'd start by importing everything but the problem form (and also leave
behind the MSYS* tables, Access will build them afresh). Then try importing
the problem one. I guess that it will refuse to import as it has become
corrupted. You will then have to rebuild it from scratch or import it from a
backup copy of the application.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Christopher
> Hawkins
> Sent:	Tuesday, November 23, 2004 11:56 AM
> To:	accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject:	[AccessD] The form just won't save.
> 
> I have an Access 2000 mdb file.  Within this file is a particular
> form.  Whenever I try to save changes to the form's module, it just
> won't save.  It hourglasses on me forever and eventually returns a
> 'Not Responding' message.
> 
> I have decompiled it.  I have recompiled it.  I have compacted it.  I
> have repaired it.  
> 
> I do not know what else to do.
> 
> Plus I'm working with a fever.  Ack.
> 
> Thoughts?
> Respectfully,
> 
> Christopher Hawkins
> Software Developer
> (559) 687-7591
> http://www.christopherhawkins.com
> 
> 


From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Tue Nov 23 09:46:24 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:46:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C45E@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

I create run time versions of a program for manufacturers all over the
globe.  Mr. UK (he has a GREAT accent) is able to run the runtime
created in Access 2000 on his XP Professional 2002 SP1 installed that
has Access installed.

The other unit has XP home, SP2, with no Access.  The executable starts
and stops after five seconds.  Is there an issue with home, SP2,
whatever, running runtimes?

I am a bother today, aren't I?





From max at sherman.org.uk  Tue Nov 23 11:52:35 2004
From: max at sherman.org.uk (Max)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 17:52:35 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] The form just won't save.
In-Reply-To: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A283D@xlivmbx21.aig.com>
Message-ID: <20041123175231.FCSM1092.aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@server>

Hi Chris,
What sometimes works is to save the form as a copy.  Select the form in the
db window (right-click) and then copy it to a new form (right-click again
and give it a new name).  The new one often gets copied over without the
offending corrupted byte!
Also, as Lambert says, import it into a new DB, but BEFORE you copy the
offending form, save a backup of what you have copied so far.  
You could also try my program which copies all selected objects as text and
you can then import them from text into a new DB (forms, reports, queries,
modules, etc).  You will find it on Rogers site.   It is called
EATBloatV2.mdb (Extract as Text - defeats DB bloat).

Max Sherman

  

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: 23 November 2004 17:24
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'Christopher
Hawkins'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] The form just won't save.

Sounds like you need to import all the objects in the db to a fresh, empty
mdb file. 

I'd start by importing everything but the problem form (and also leave
behind the MSYS* tables, Access will build them afresh). Then try importing
the problem one. I guess that it will refuse to import as it has become
corrupted. You will then have to rebuild it from scratch or import it from a
backup copy of the application.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Christopher 
> Hawkins
> Sent:	Tuesday, November 23, 2004 11:56 AM
> To:	accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject:	[AccessD] The form just won't save.
> 
> I have an Access 2000 mdb file.  Within this file is a particular 
> form.  Whenever I try to save changes to the form's module, it just 
> won't save.  It hourglasses on me forever and eventually returns a 
> 'Not Responding' message.
> 
> I have decompiled it.  I have recompiled it.  I have compacted it.  I 
> have repaired it.
> 
> I do not know what else to do.
> 
> Plus I'm working with a fever.  Ack.
> 
> Thoughts?
> Respectfully,
> 
> Christopher Hawkins
> Software Developer
> (559) 687-7591
> http://www.christopherhawkins.com
> 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Nov 23 12:03:33 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 13:03:33 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C45E@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <006901c4d186$bf59c210$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Today?  ;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 10:46 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version


I create run time versions of a program for manufacturers all over the
globe.  Mr. UK (he has a GREAT accent) is able to run the runtime created in
Access 2000 on his XP Professional 2002 SP1 installed that has Access
installed.

The other unit has XP home, SP2, with no Access.  The executable starts and
stops after five seconds.  Is there an issue with home, SP2, whatever,
running runtimes?

I am a bother today, aren't I?



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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Tue Nov 23 12:59:01 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 13:59:01 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74486B75@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

I've been fighting with our network/hardware staff for weeks over SP2s ability to break applications.  At the recent Advisor.com event Ken Getz's demo was almost blown by SP2.  Lucky for him (and us) Alison Balter let him copy his files to her machine w/o SP2 and they ran.

Here's a link to get you started into the hell that is SP2:  http://msdn.microsoft.com/security/productinfo/XPSP2/

HTH,

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 10:46 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version


I create run time versions of a program for manufacturers all over the
globe.  Mr. UK (he has a GREAT accent) is able to run the runtime
created in Access 2000 on his XP Professional 2002 SP1 installed that
has Access installed.

The other unit has XP home, SP2, with no Access.  The executable starts
and stops after five seconds.  Is there an issue with home, SP2,
whatever, running runtimes?

I am a bother today, aren't I?



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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Tue Nov 23 14:10:56 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 14:10:56 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Re:  #Num!
In-Reply-To: <200411230925.iAN9PsL01590@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041123140947.014180d0@pop3.highstream.net>

John,

I think it is caused by text in a column that Access is interpreting as a 
number.
So the fault is in the spreadsheet data, not Access.

Robert

At 03:25 AM 11/23/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:23:39 -0500
>From: "Colby, John" <JColby at dispec.com>
>Subject: [AccessD] #Num!
>To: "'AccessD at DatabaseAdvisors.com'" <AccessD at DatabaseAdvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF9A8 at DISABILITYINS01>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Does anyone know how to convert #Num! in a linked spreadsheet to a null or
>something useable in Access?
>
>John W. Colby
>The DIS Database Guy




From mikedorism at adelphia.net  Tue Nov 23 14:26:07 2004
From: mikedorism at adelphia.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:26:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version
In-Reply-To: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74486B75@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>
Message-ID: <000201c4d19a$ad3f92d0$0b08a845@hargrove.internal>

I knew I should have asked if anybody from AccessD was going to Baltimore.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 1:59 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version


I've been fighting with our network/hardware staff for weeks over SP2s
ability to break applications.  At the recent Advisor.com event Ken Getz's
demo was almost blown by SP2.  Lucky for him (and us) Alison Balter let him
copy his files to her machine w/o SP2 and they ran.

Here's a link to get you started into the hell that is SP2:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/security/productinfo/XPSP2/

HTH,

Jim DeMarco

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 10:46 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version


I create run time versions of a program for manufacturers all over the
globe.  Mr. UK (he has a GREAT accent) is able to run the runtime created in
Access 2000 on his XP Professional 2002 SP1 installed that has Access
installed.

The other unit has XP home, SP2, with no Access.  The executable starts and
stops after five seconds.  Is there an issue with home, SP2, whatever,
running runtimes?

I am a bother today, aren't I?



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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Tue Nov 23 14:29:10 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 14:29:10 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something
In-Reply-To: <200411230925.iAN9PsL01590@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041123142629.013be320@pop3.highstream.net>

Or as I have heard in Russia... Pamoika (which is the fragrant
liquid you see running from a dumpster) Arthur, I think your
choice of examples could have been a bit less expressive of
the vulgar.

Robert

At 03:25 AM 11/23/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 18:18:16 -0500
>From: Arthur Fuller <artful at rogers.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
>         Something
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <41A273B8.7010207 at rogers.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>1. There are a pair of classic sentences that are used frequently to
>derail machine translators:
>a) Bill sent me a bill which I forwarded to Bill.
>b) Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.
>(This one I capitalized to help you through it, although it still takes
>some work. To save you the trouble.... there is an English verb, to
>buffalo. It means to baffle, or perhaps to bullshit. As in, when the
>client asked question X, I buffaloed her. A particular variation on said
>action is known as the Buffalo buffalo. This is a version particular to
>the city -- as opposed to say the New Orleans buffalo. So, certain
>buffalo who happen to reside in Buffalo do the Buffalo buffalo to other
>buffalo who also happen to reside in Buffalo.)




From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Tue Nov 23 14:38:55 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:38:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74486B7C@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

This was the Vegas event.  Did they do one in Baltimore?  I wish I'd have known.

Jim D.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:26 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version


I knew I should have asked if anybody from AccessD was going to Baltimore.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 1:59 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version


I've been fighting with our network/hardware staff for weeks over SP2s
ability to break applications.  At the recent Advisor.com event Ken Getz's
demo was almost blown by SP2.  Lucky for him (and us) Alison Balter let him
copy his files to her machine w/o SP2 and they ran.

Here's a link to get you started into the hell that is SP2:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/security/productinfo/XPSP2/

HTH,

Jim DeMarco

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 10:46 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version


I create run time versions of a program for manufacturers all over the
globe.  Mr. UK (he has a GREAT accent) is able to run the runtime created in
Access 2000 on his XP Professional 2002 SP1 installed that has Access
installed.

The other unit has XP home, SP2, with no Access.  The executable starts and
stops after five seconds.  Is there an issue with home, SP2, whatever,
running runtimes?

I am a bother today, aren't I?



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From mikedorism at adelphia.net  Tue Nov 23 15:30:13 2004
From: mikedorism at adelphia.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:30:13 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version
In-Reply-To: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74486B7C@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>
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Yup.  They did one in Baltimore Nov 1-3.  It will be back in Vegas next
year.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:39 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version


This was the Vegas event.  Did they do one in Baltimore?  I wish I'd have
known.

Jim D.

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Manning
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:26 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version


I knew I should have asked if anybody from AccessD was going to Baltimore.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 1:59 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version


I've been fighting with our network/hardware staff for weeks over SP2s
ability to break applications.  At the recent Advisor.com event Ken Getz's
demo was almost blown by SP2.  Lucky for him (and us) Alison Balter let him
copy his files to her machine w/o SP2 and they ran.

Here's a link to get you started into the hell that is SP2:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/security/productinfo/XPSP2/

HTH,

Jim DeMarco

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Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 10:46 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version


I create run time versions of a program for manufacturers all over the
globe.  Mr. UK (he has a GREAT accent) is able to run the runtime created in
Access 2000 on his XP Professional 2002 SP1 installed that has Access
installed.

The other unit has XP home, SP2, with no Access.  The executable starts and
stops after five seconds.  Is there an issue with home, SP2, whatever,
running runtimes?

I am a bother today, aren't I?



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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 23 16:29:00 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 14:29:00 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version
References: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C45E@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <41A3B9AC.3010608@shaw.ca>

Couple of quickie things to check was the program installed from a WinXP 
adminstrator account.
Someone may run on a daily basis from a lesser permissioned account to 
avoid viruses.
Win XP SP2 makes a lot of security permission changes.
You might try re-installing with US English language selection set from 
the control panel then resetting to UK English.

I know there were some problems with Win 2003 Server and Access runtimes.

Nicholson, Karen wrote:

>I create run time versions of a program for manufacturers all over the
>globe.  Mr. UK (he has a GREAT accent) is able to run the runtime
>created in Access 2000 on his XP Professional 2002 SP1 installed that
>has Access installed.
>
>The other unit has XP home, SP2, with no Access.  The executable starts
>and stops after five seconds.  Is there an issue with home, SP2,
>whatever, running runtimes?
>
>I am a bother today, aren't I?
>
>
>
>  
>

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From stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz  Tue Nov 23 17:57:20 2004
From: stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz (Stephen Bond)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 12:57:20 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] OT
Message-ID: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F29088979@server.bondsoftware.co.nz>

Any listers in Central Oregon?  Am deserting the antipodean summer and heading that way in mid-December for a month R_and_R, love to swap ideas and experiences.
 
Stephen Bond

From artful at rogers.com  Tue Nov 23 18:04:18 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:04:18 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
	Something
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20041123142629.013be320@pop3.highstream.net>
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20041123142629.013be320@pop3.highstream.net>
Message-ID: <41A3D002.7080900@rogers.com>

No offence intended. It just happens to be one of the most vivid 
examples of the elasticity of English. For a less vulgar example, 
consider the word "cool" or as the young would have it, "kewl". You may 
well be right; I should perhaps have used that word instead. But my 
intent was not vulgarity but rather illumination on the elasticity of 
English. Apologies if I offended.

Robert L. Stewart wrote:

> Or as I have heard in Russia... Pamoika (which is the fragrant
> liquid you see running from a dumpster) Arthur, I think your
> choice of examples could have been a bit less expressive of
> the vulgar.
>
> Robert
>
> At 03:25 AM 11/23/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>
>> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 18:18:16 -0500
>> From: Arthur Fuller <artful at rogers.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
>>         Something
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Message-ID: <41A273B8.7010207 at rogers.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> 1. There are a pair of classic sentences that are used frequently to
>> derail machine translators:
>> a) Bill sent me a bill which I forwarded to Bill.
>> b) Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.
>> (This one I capitalized to help you through it, although it still takes
>> some work. To save you the trouble.... there is an English verb, to
>> buffalo. It means to baffle, or perhaps to bullshit. As in, when the
>> client asked question X, I buffaloed her. A particular variation on said
>> action is known as the Buffalo buffalo. This is a version particular to
>> the city -- as opposed to say the New Orleans buffalo. So, certain
>> buffalo who happen to reside in Buffalo do the Buffalo buffalo to other
>> buffalo who also happen to reside in Buffalo.)
>
>
>


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Nov 23 18:36:48 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:36:48 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B94@infoserver01.infostat.local>

LOL Boy are you in for weather shock, not to mention culture shock!

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Bond [mailto:stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:57 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT


Any listers in Central Oregon?  Am deserting the antipodean summer and
heading that way in mid-December for a month R_and_R, love to swap ideas
and experiences.
 
Stephen Bond


From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 23 18:54:58 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:54:58 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something
In-Reply-To: <41A273B8.7010207@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLICEIMCIAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Arthur: Now that was a good read (rant) ;-).

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 3:18 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
Something


1. There are a pair of classic sentences that are used frequently to 
derail machine translators:
a) Bill sent me a bill which I forwarded to Bill.
b) Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.
(This one I capitalized to help you through it, although it still takes 
some work. To save you the trouble.... there is an English verb, to 
buffalo. It means to baffle, or perhaps to bullshit. As in, when the 
client asked question X, I buffaloed her. A particular variation on said 
action is known as the Buffalo buffalo. This is a version particular to 
the city -- as opposed to say the New Orleans buffalo. So, certain 
buffalo who happen to reside in Buffalo do the Buffalo buffalo to other 
buffalo who also happen to reside in Buffalo.)

There are many other variants on this problem, and to give my source 
credit they can be found in Steve Pinker's classic book "The Language 
Instinct". (For those unfamiliar with it and who also happen to wonder 
what the hell Noam Chomsky was on about, said book contains the most 
concise explication of Noam's basic theory that I have ever read.) Here 
are a few more nuggets for your translation-machine:

Deer Kill 180,000
Queen Mary Having Bottom Scraped

And of course, the old saw, from Marx (Groucho not Karl), "Time flies 
like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."

An even more remarkable one, also courtesty Mr. Pinker.... here are 2 
sentences, each spoken by a different person (presumably married to each 
other):

a. I'm leaving you.
b. Who is he?

This one is my favourite. The other ambiguities are resoluble by parsing 
the sentence in question carefully. But this latter is remarkable in that:
a) none of the words assembled convey a larger meaning (as is the case, 
for example, in "The New York Yankees").
b) all of the words assembled convey no inherent meaning (you have to 
assume a HUGE amount of cultural baggage in order to interpret this 
conversation; further, you have to assume certain mores, certain 
cultural perspectives, certain sexual preferences and so on, in order to 
make any sense of this snippet of conversation -- i.e. regardless of the 
gender of A, we can deduce that A is only interested in males, but that 
may be a faulty deduction; A could be bisexual and B unaware of this; it 
is also possible that A is leaving B not for someone else but simply 
because living with B is intolerable; and so on). IOW, virtually NONE of 
the meat in this conversation is contained either in the individual 
words or in their assemblage; ALL of the meaning is contained in the 
minds (and by extension the cultures) of the speakers.

I have a lot of European friends, and almost all of them have commented 
at one time or another on the elasticity of English. Consider the word 
"fuck". It can be used in so many ways that it boggles the minds of 
newcomers to the English language. I fucked a lovely woman last night. I 
fucked a business competitor this morning. I tried to repair my 
motorcycle but fucked it up. Fuck you! Fuck that! Fuck you and the horse 
you rode in on. Fuck me. And so on.

There's a common (and I might add falacious) maxim that the Inuit have 
28 words for snow. This is true only in the sense that we have 100 words 
for cigarette or automobile (Honda Prelude, Dodge Caravan, etc.) The 
example cited above is the opposite phenomenon, as exemplified by 
another old riddle: Why is making love in a canoe like drinking 
Budweiser? Because it's fucking close to water.

Insofar as writing remains utterly ambiguous (a pretty tough 
proposition, but let's let that pass), then translation-engines have a 
slim chance of accuracy. To the extent that language is a joy, a thing 
to be savoured, played with, caressed, teased and fondled, then 
machine-translation has virtually no chance of success. If we go no 
further than translating "File | Open..." then we may be safe; ditto for 
various error messages.... but even there, I have to point out that once 
I taught a course, one of whose students was confined to a wheelchair, 
and when a message came up saying something like "Invalid parameter", 
she said, "I'm an invalid." Which in turn led me to consider what a 
horrid word that was to describe people in her condition. Such persons 
are not invalid; they are just as valid as you and me.

Yet another example. A close friend and colleague of mine, from Britain, 
gave me a copy of his new software to test. A couple of days later he 
asked me what I thought of it. I replied, "Not bad!". In Canada this is 
a compliment. In Britain this means that I couldn't find anything truly 
despicable to say about it, but was overall underwhelmed. His look of 
shock make me realize a cultural gap here of serious proportions.

Chevrolet at one point release an automobile called "Nova". In Spanish 
this means "Does not go." (Neuve is the word for New.)

All of which goes to say, do not trust translation-machines. If you need 
to translate, find a human.

One final example, taken from the annals of machine-translation 
literature. They had an English to Russian translator and its opposite. 
They fed in an English sentence, translated it to Russian, and then 
translated it back.

a) The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak.
b) The vodka is good but the meat is rotten.

Arthur

Dan Waters wrote:

>I did some internet research and found that there apparently isn't
>anything that does 'perfect' translations - that is left to actual
>people!  It did seem that there were some not inexpensive software
>solutions that would have been able to do a pretty good job.
>
>Translation on a PC is called Machine Translation.  Machine translation
>can take a document and take a 'first cut' at doing a translation.  Then
>someone who knows both languages can finish it off in less time.  I'm
>going to recommend this approach to my client.
>
>This first cut can be done from Word.  
>	Open a Word document and highlight some text. 
>	Select Tools | Language | Translate.
>	A Translate pane will appear at the right.
>	At the bottom see 'Translate via the Web'.
>	Select the language translation you want.
>	Push Go.
>	A web site will open with the Machine translation of the text
>		you highlighted.  
>
>I tried to use the Look up in Dictionary feature, but that always came
>back with No Suggestions.
>
>Dan Waters
>ProMation Systems
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 7:04 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
>Something
>
>No not on the fly.  Every report is saved twice (once for English,
>another for Spanish).  This was all set up before I got here but I think
>the difference in the text sizes (lengths) between the languages was a
>major reason.
>
>Jim DeMarco
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters
>Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 3:49 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
>Something
>
>
>Jim,
>
>Are your reports partially translated on the fly?  If not it seems that
>you would need to have your original text information recorded in two
>separate places - one for each language?
>
>If on the fly how is this done?
>
>Dan
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:28 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
>Something
>
>We have two of everything here at this point.  Pick the language, print
>the correct version report.
>
>Jim DeMarco
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
>Foust
>Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:28 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
>Something
>
>
>Switch to VB.Net and XML?  (well, it IS Friday) :-}
>
>Charlotte Foust
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com] 
>Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 7:44 AM
>To: Database Advisors
>Subject: [AccessD] Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something
>
>
>I have a client who would like their system to be able to present
>reports in different languages, based on a selection made on-screen by
>the reader.  How would I get started making this happen?  
>
> 
>
>Thanks,
>
>Dan Waters
>
>ProMation Systems
>
>  
>


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 23 19:14:38 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 17:14:38 -0800
Subject: [Accessd] OT
In-Reply-To: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F29088979@server.bondsoftware.co.nz>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIKEIMCIAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Steven:

If you decide to wander North a bit to Lotus land, the Vancouver Island,
Victoria, you can always drop in on myself and Marty Connelly. (He is a bit
of a party animal but that is just a unsubstantiated rumor.)

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stephen Bond
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:57 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT


Any listers in Central Oregon?  Am deserting the antipodean summer and
heading that way in mid-December for a month R_and_R, love to swap ideas and
experiences.

Stephen Bond



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Nov 23 20:23:38 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 21:23:38 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] properties
Message-ID: <001401c4d1cc$9fb37b90$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

I had a strange occurrence last night and I just wanted to check the list to
see if anyone has ever seen such a thing.

Windows XP / Office XP, I remoted in to a client site and started work on a
FE.  At some point I tried to compact / repair the db and got the old error
message that "the database could be renamed" and the copy was saved to db2.
I saved the original and then renamed db2 and continued work.  I did NOT
test editing / adding records etc.  The client was asked to test the changes
and came back very upset that two entire tabs of the form were "locked".  I
remoted in tonight and started poking around and sure enough all the
subforms (controls) on those two tabs have the enabled property set to no
which prevents even setting the focus into the subform.  Further all of the
"allow edits/deletions/additions" are set to no for the actual subforms
themselves.

My conjecture is that something happened at the point Access tried to close
the database to do the compact/repair or when it attempted to delete the
original and rename the compacted copy.  Given the damage I've found so far
I certainly don't trust the copy to continue work on.  Who knows what else
has been changed.

Has anyone ever seen such a thing happen?  I never have, but there are so
many properties changed that I have to think that Access somehow set these
properties at some point.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz  Tue Nov 23 21:28:22 2004
From: stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz (Stephen Bond)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 16:28:22 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] OT
Message-ID: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F2908897A@server.bondsoftware.co.nz>

I should 'fess up, my wife and I were married there 34 years ago, and some of her family is still there and we enjoy seeing them no matter the weather.  But hey, mr taxman, this is a business trip, right?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 24 November 2004 1:37 p.m.
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT
> 
> 
> LOL Boy are you in for weather shock, not to mention culture shock!
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Bond [mailto:stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:57 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] OT
> 
> 
> Any listers in Central Oregon?  Am deserting the antipodean summer and
> heading that way in mid-December for a month R_and_R, love to 
> swap ideas
> and experiences.
>  
> Stephen Bond
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From william.thompson1 at att.net  Tue Nov 23 21:33:02 2004
From: william.thompson1 at att.net (William Thompson)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:33:02 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] slightly off the topic of Excel to csv #Num!
In-Reply-To: <004c01c4d165$d425ddd0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <200411240332.iAO3WuL01551@databaseadvisors.com>


This is not exactly what you specified, but it looked interesting:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/247412/EN-US/

<snippet>
Dim rs As ADODB...
...
sData = rs.GetString(adClipString, , vbTab, vbCr, vbNullString)
   Open "C:\Test.txt" For Output As #1
   Print #1, sData
   Close #1
...
Shell "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\Excel.exe " & _
      Chr(34) & "C:\Test.txt" & Chr(34), vbMaximizedFocus

A possible way to re-engineer this - with potential for improvement - would
be to create a querytable from a recordset, then write out a 'mirror' csv
file.  I've been looking at this type of thing for 'snapshots' of data that
is constantly being refreshed, or to make dynamic data static.

Bill

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 6:08 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] #Num!

I keep forgetting about this method.  I have never automated Excel to save a
sheet as a csv.  Does anyone have working code to do this?

John W. Colby
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 7:42 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] #Num!


Hi John

That's not nice. Who makes such spreadsheets?

How about saving (via code) the worksheet to a text file (.csv) and then
read this line by line validating the fields? Not very fancy, I know, but
what options are left?

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 23-11-2004 13:10:09 >>>
I'm trying to import it into a temp table and get a "numeric overflow" when
trying to do the append.  This even though I have converted ALL of the
fields to text.  The issue is coming from a date field with null in the
first record (but dates in most of the rest).  

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 6:05 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] #Num!


Hi John

I don't think you can. 
An option might be to import the worksheet to a temp table. Then you can
manipulate the data as you wish.

If you find a method please let us know.

/gustav

>>> JColby at dispec.com 22-11-2004 19:23:39 >>>
Does anyone know how to convert #Num! in a linked spreadsheet to a null or
something useable in Access?

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From stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz  Tue Nov 23 21:31:33 2004
From: stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz (Stephen Bond)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 16:31:33 +1300
Subject: [Accessd] OT
Message-ID: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F2908897B@server.bondsoftware.co.nz>

I have a cousin on the faculty of U Vic, last visited him in 1993.  We are planning on visiting friends in Port Angeles, who knows what will happen after that.  Thanks for the thought.

Stephen Bond 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
> Sent: Wednesday, 24 November 2004 2:15 p.m.
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [Accessd] OT
> 
> 
> Hi Steven:
> 
> If you decide to wander North a bit to Lotus land, the 
> Vancouver Island,
> Victoria, you can always drop in on myself and Marty 
> Connelly. (He is a bit
> of a party animal but that is just a unsubstantiated rumor.)
> 
> Jim
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stephen Bond
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:57 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] OT
> 
> 
> Any listers in Central Oregon?  Am deserting the antipodean summer and
> heading that way in mid-December for a month R_and_R, love to 
> swap ideas and
> experiences.
> 
> Stephen Bond
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 23 23:55:30 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 21:55:30 -0800
Subject: [Accessd] OT
References: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F2908897B@server.bondsoftware.co.nz>
Message-ID: <41A42252.4010206@shaw.ca>

Well there is a 9 AM and 3PM Coho ferry twice a day  from Port Angeles, 
this time of year it can be blown back into port when crossing the strait.
I do hang out with the Women's Rugby club in Victoria, they make me wear 
one of their teeshirts that reads "Trample the wounded. Hurdle the dead"
The U Vic faculty club does have a nice little pond with frogs and 
turtles jumping around in it tho.

Stephen Bond wrote:

>I have a cousin on the faculty of U Vic, last visited him in 1993.  We are planning on visiting friends in Port Angeles, who knows what will happen after that.  Thanks for the thought.
>
>Stephen Bond 
>
>  
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
>>Sent: Wednesday, 24 November 2004 2:15 p.m.
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: RE: [Accessd] OT
>>
>>
>>Hi Steven:
>>
>>If you decide to wander North a bit to Lotus land, the 
>>Vancouver Island,
>>Victoria, you can always drop in on myself and Marty 
>>Connelly. (He is a bit
>>of a party animal but that is just a unsubstantiated rumor.)
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stephen Bond
>>Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:57 PM
>>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>>Subject: [AccessD] OT
>>
>>
>>Any listers in Central Oregon?  Am deserting the antipodean summer and
>>heading that way in mid-December for a month R_and_R, love to 
>>swap ideas and
>>experiences.
>>
>>Stephen Bond
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 24 00:26:07 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 22:26:07 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT
In-Reply-To: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F2908897A@server.bondsoftware.co.nz>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIKEJACIAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Congratulations Stephen:

We just celebrated our thirtieth this year...but 34; I am impressed. Between
you and me and other members of the list, enjoy your 'business' trip.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stephen Bond
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 7:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT


I should 'fess up, my wife and I were married there 34 years ago, and some
of her family is still there and we enjoy seeing them no matter the weather.
But hey, mr taxman, this is a business trip, right?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 24 November 2004 1:37 p.m.
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT
>
>
> LOL Boy are you in for weather shock, not to mention culture shock!
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Bond [mailto:stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:57 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] OT
>
>
> Any listers in Central Oregon?  Am deserting the antipodean summer and
> heading that way in mid-December for a month R_and_R, love to
> swap ideas
> and experiences.
>
> Stephen Bond
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 24 00:26:08 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 22:26:08 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] properties
In-Reply-To: <001401c4d1cc$9fb37b90$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIMEJACIAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi John:

I hope you are wrong and there is some other reason... If not what
version!!?

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 6:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] properties


I had a strange occurrence last night and I just wanted to check the list to
see if anyone has ever seen such a thing.

Windows XP / Office XP, I remoted in to a client site and started work on a
FE.  At some point I tried to compact / repair the db and got the old error
message that "the database could be renamed" and the copy was saved to db2.
I saved the original and then renamed db2 and continued work.  I did NOT
test editing / adding records etc.  The client was asked to test the changes
and came back very upset that two entire tabs of the form were "locked".  I
remoted in tonight and started poking around and sure enough all the
subforms (controls) on those two tabs have the enabled property set to no
which prevents even setting the focus into the subform.  Further all of the
"allow edits/deletions/additions" are set to no for the actual subforms
themselves.

My conjecture is that something happened at the point Access tried to close
the database to do the compact/repair or when it attempted to delete the
original and rename the compacted copy.  Given the damage I've found so far
I certainly don't trust the copy to continue work on.  Who knows what else
has been changed.

Has anyone ever seen such a thing happen?  I never have, but there are so
many properties changed that I have to think that Access somehow set these
properties at some point.

John W. Colby
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 24 00:26:08 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 22:26:08 -0800
Subject: [Accessd] OT
In-Reply-To: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F2908897B@server.bondsoftware.co.nz>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIOEJACIAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

See you....maybe. I will send you some details off-line, just in case.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stephen Bond
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 7:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [Accessd] OT


I have a cousin on the faculty of U Vic, last visited him in 1993.  We are
planning on visiting friends in Port Angeles, who knows what will happen
after that.  Thanks for the thought.

Stephen Bond

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
> Sent: Wednesday, 24 November 2004 2:15 p.m.
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [Accessd] OT
>
>
> Hi Steven:
>
> If you decide to wander North a bit to Lotus land, the
> Vancouver Island,
> Victoria, you can always drop in on myself and Marty
> Connelly. (He is a bit
> of a party animal but that is just a unsubstantiated rumor.)
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stephen Bond
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:57 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] OT
>
>
> Any listers in Central Oregon?  Am deserting the antipodean summer and
> heading that way in mid-December for a month R_and_R, love to
> swap ideas and
> experiences.
>
> Stephen Bond
>
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov 24 03:44:56 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:44:56 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] #Num!
Message-ID: <s1a46632.099@cactus.dk>

Hi John

In case you haven't found out yet, here is:

  wkb.SaveAs FileName:="d:\temp\test.csv", FileFormat:=xlCSV,
CreateBackup:=False

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 23-11-2004 15:07:48 >>>
I keep forgetting about this method.  I have never automated Excel to
save a
sheet as a csv.  Does anyone have working code to do this?

John W. Colby
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav
Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 7:42 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] #Num!


Hi John

That's not nice. Who makes such spreadsheets?

How about saving (via code) the worksheet to a text file (.csv) and
then
read this line by line validating the fields? Not very fancy, I know,
but
what options are left?

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 23-11-2004 13:10:09 >>>
I'm trying to import it into a temp table and get a "numeric overflow"
when
trying to do the append.  This even though I have converted ALL of the
fields to text.  The issue is coming from a date field with null in
the
first record (but dates in most of the rest).  



From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Wed Nov 24 06:45:57 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 07:45:57 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74486B82@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

I was hoping they'd move it out of Vegas next year.  It's been there twice in row now.  I wonder if the Baltimore agenda was as rich as the other.  Maybe it's still up their site.

Thanks,

Jim D.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 4:30 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version


Yup.  They did one in Baltimore Nov 1-3.  It will be back in Vegas next
year.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:39 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version


This was the Vegas event.  Did they do one in Baltimore?  I wish I'd have
known.

Jim D.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:26 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version


I knew I should have asked if anybody from AccessD was going to Baltimore.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 1:59 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version


I've been fighting with our network/hardware staff for weeks over SP2s
ability to break applications.  At the recent Advisor.com event Ken Getz's
demo was almost blown by SP2.  Lucky for him (and us) Alison Balter let him
copy his files to her machine w/o SP2 and they ran.

Here's a link to get you started into the hell that is SP2:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/security/productinfo/XPSP2/

HTH,

Jim DeMarco

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 10:46 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Program Access 2000 on XP Home Version


I create run time versions of a program for manufacturers all over the
globe.  Mr. UK (he has a GREAT accent) is able to run the runtime created in
Access 2000 on his XP Professional 2002 SP1 installed that has Access
installed.

The other unit has XP home, SP2, with no Access.  The executable starts and
stops after five seconds.  Is there an issue with home, SP2, whatever,
running runtimes?

I am a bother today, aren't I?



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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Wed Nov 24 07:56:53 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 07:56:53 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something
In-Reply-To: <200411241251.iAOCp8L16300@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041124075614.012ae938@pop3.highstream.net>

I think the words to, too, and two would also have fit.

At 06:51 AM 11/24/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:04:18 -0500
>From: Arthur Fuller <artful at rogers.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Re: Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
>         Something
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <41A3D002.7080900 at rogers.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>No offence intended. It just happens to be one of the most vivid
>examples of the elasticity of English. For a less vulgar example,
>consider the word "cool" or as the young would have it, "kewl". You may
>well be right; I should perhaps have used that word instead. But my
>intent was not vulgarity but rather illumination on the elasticity of
>English. Apologies if I offended.
>
>Robert L. Stewart wrote:
>
> > Or as I have heard in Russia... Pamoika (which is the fragrant
> > liquid you see running from a dumpster) Arthur, I think your
> > choice of examples could have been a bit less expressive of
> > the vulgar.
> >
> > Robert




From JHewson at karta.com  Wed Nov 24 08:03:58 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 08:03:58 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
	Something
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068D0A@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>


Or their, there and they're.

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Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 7:57 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
Something


I think the words to, too, and two would also have fit.

At 06:51 AM 11/24/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:04:18 -0500
>From: Arthur Fuller <artful at rogers.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Re: Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
>         Something
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <41A3D002.7080900 at rogers.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>No offence intended. It just happens to be one of the most vivid
>examples of the elasticity of English. For a less vulgar example,
>consider the word "cool" or as the young would have it, "kewl". You may
>well be right; I should perhaps have used that word instead. But my
>intent was not vulgarity but rather illumination on the elasticity of
>English. Apologies if I offended.
>
>Robert L. Stewart wrote:
>
> > Or as I have heard in Russia... Pamoika (which is the fragrant
> > liquid you see running from a dumpster) Arthur, I think your
> > choice of examples could have been a bit less expressive of
> > the vulgar.
> >
> > Robert


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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Wed Nov 24 08:07:54 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 08:07:54 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
In-Reply-To: <19284598.1101263179516.JavaMail.root@sniper17.securence.com>
Message-ID: <000c01c4d22e$fe9f5540$de1811d8@danwaters>

John,

What mechanism or method do you use to remote in to a client's site?
I'm struggling with this now. 

Does anyone have recommendations or warnings about what works and what
doesn't?

Thanks!
Dan Waters
ProMation Systems



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] properties

I had a strange occurrence last night and I just wanted to check the
list to
see if anyone has ever seen such a thing.

Windows XP / Office XP, I remoted in to a client site and started work
on a
FE.  At some point I tried to compact / repair the db and got the old
error
message that "the database could be renamed" and the copy was saved to
db2.
I saved the original and then renamed db2 and continued work.  I did NOT
test editing / adding records etc.  The client was asked to test the
changes
and came back very upset that two entire tabs of the form were "locked".
I
remoted in tonight and started poking around and sure enough all the
subforms (controls) on those two tabs have the enabled property set to
no
which prevents even setting the focus into the subform.  Further all of
the
"allow edits/deletions/additions" are set to no for the actual subforms
themselves.

My conjecture is that something happened at the point Access tried to
close
the database to do the compact/repair or when it attempted to delete the
original and rename the compacted copy.  Given the damage I've found so
far
I certainly don't trust the copy to continue work on.  Who knows what
else
has been changed.

Has anyone ever seen such a thing happen?  I never have, but there are
so
many properties changed that I have to think that Access somehow set
these
properties at some point.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 24 08:15:34 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 06:15:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Search for linked documents....IN TABLES....
In-Reply-To: <20041123130540.52003.qmail@web61105.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20041124141534.33810.qmail@web61105.mail.yahoo.com>

Can anybody please help me with this one?
Tips/links/articles any thing will do!!
 
Regrds,
sd

S D <accessd667 at yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi group,

it seemed that the users where not talking about linked tables but about linked documents in a table!

So I've got a table, this table has an oledb field in it. I found out how to search for this.
However, I now need to figure out how I can do the following:
1 - check if file is linked
2 - what type of file is linked (Word, Excel, etc)
3 - what is the version of the matching officeprogram (eg Word 97, Excell 2002)
4 - what is the location of the file
5 - what are the create, last modified, last opened date

Did anybody ever do something like this?
Does anybody know if there is some sort of object model that I can use for this eg like in Excell: Application => Workbook => worksheet, etc? 
Does anybody know to any tips on how to figure this out?! 

Thnx in advance!

Sander


S D wrote:
Have fun....haha..ha...hmmm I think we've got different ideas about fun 
Thnx for the, once again, great response.

Sander

Gustav Brock wrote:
Hi Sander

This is doable but not straight forward.

First, linked "documents" are treated as ISAM databases and tables. For
text and xBase and Paradox files, the directory is the "database" while
for Excel and Html the file is the database. Linked MAPI tables are even
more excotic so I will leave them for this. Linked ODBC tables are
complete different as they are identified by their connect strings.

Second, tables may be linked with other names than their true names.

This a query which will return all non-deleted links:

SELECT DISTINCT 
RTrim([Database]) AS DbsPath, 
MSysObjects.Connect, 
Hex(GetTableType([Flags])) AS TableType, 
MSysObjects.ForeignName, 
GetTrueForeignName(GetTableType([Flags]),[ForeignName]) AS
TrueForeignName, 
MSysObjects.Name AS LinkedName
FROM 
MSysObjects
WHERE 
(IsTablePresent([Flags])=True) 
AND 
(MSysObjects.Type=4 Or MSysObjects.Type=6);

It uses these supporting functions:



Declarations.

' Table types known.
'
' ODBC connection.
Private Const clngTableTypeNone As Long = &H0
' Note: MS MSDE/SQL Server has some higher bits set as well.
Private Const clngTableTypeOdbc As Long = &H100000
' Jet file attached by UNC name.
Private Const clngTableTypeJetUnc As Long = &H200000
' Jet file attached by mapped drive letter.
Private Const clngTableTypeJetDrive As Long = &H400000
Private Const clngTableTypeParadox As Long = &H700000
Private Const clngTableTypeDbase As Long = &H800000
Private Const clngTableTypeText As Long = &HA00000
Private Const clngTableTypeExcel As Long = &HB00000
Private Const clngTableTypeOutlook As Long = &HD00000
Private Const clngTableTypeHtml As Long = &HE00000

Public Function GetTrueForeignName( _
ByVal lngTableType As Long, _
ByVal strForeignName As String) _
As String

' Returns true foreign name for those ISAM table types
' where this is stored as an alias.
' Foreign names for other table types are not altered.
'
' Example Excel:
' Alias for worksheet: Sheet1$
' True name: Sheet1
' Example Paradox:
' Alias for table name: Pdoxfile#db
' True name: Pdoxfile.db
'
' 2004-05-10. Cactus Data ApS, CPH.

Const cstrSepDbase As String = "#"
Const cstrSepParadox As String = "#"
Const cstrSepText As String = "#"
Const cstrSepExcel As String = "$"
Const cstrRplExcel As String = vbNullString

Dim strTrueName As String
Dim lngPos As Long

Select Case lngTableType
Case clngTableTypeParadox
lngPos = InStr(strForeignName, cstrSepParadox)
If lngPos > 1 Then
strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, lngPos - 1)
Else
strTrueName = strForeignName
End If
Case clngTableTypeDbase
lngPos = InStr(strForeignName, cstrSepDbase)
If lngPos > 1 Then
strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, lngPos - 1)
Else
strTrueName = strForeignName
End If
Case clngTableTypeExcel
If Right(strForeignName, 1) = cstrSepExcel Then
' Worksheet. Strip traling "$".
strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, Len(strForeignName) - 1)
Else
' Named Range. Leave as is.
strTrueName = strForeignName
End If
Case clngTableTypeText
lngPos = InStr(strForeignName, cstrSepText)
If lngPos > 1 Then
strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, lngPos - 1)
Else
strTrueName = strForeignName
End If
Case Else
strTrueName = strForeignName
End Select

GetTrueForeignName = strTrueName

End Function

Public Function IsTablePresent( _
ByVal lngFlag As Long) _
As Boolean

' Returns True if a table is not flagged as deleted in MSysObjects.
' To be used in a query to extract currently attached tables.
'
' 2004-04-21. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.

Const clngFlagDeleted As Long = &H1001

Dim booDeleted As Boolean

booDeleted = lngFlag And clngFlagDeleted

IsTablePresent = Not booDeleted

End Function

Public Function GetTableType( _
ByVal lngFlag As Long) _
As Long

' Returns the table type from lngFlag in MSysObjects by rounding it to
' &H100000 which strips all minor flags including the hidden flag
(&H8)
' and all major flags - like &H20xxxxxx used by MS MSDE/SQL Server.
' To be used in a query to extract currently attached tables of a
specific type.
'
' 2004-04-21. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.

' Flag mask.
' Const clngFlagMajor As Long = &HFF000000
' Const clngFlagMinor As Long = &HFFFFF
Const clngFlagMask As Long = &HFF0FFFFF

Dim lngType As Long

lngType = lngFlag And Not clngFlagMask

GetTableType = lngType

End Function



Have fun!

/gustav

>>> accessd667 at yahoo.com 19-11-2004 14:57:55 >>>
Hi group,

I've got some code from the ADHB2K to search for linked tables.
However, it is also possible to link documents...office documents that
is. So I mean files with extions like:
.xls;
.txt;
etc

Q1: how can I search for these linked 'documents'?
Q2: how can I pinpoint the xls files from none xls files?

TIA

Sander

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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Wed Nov 24 07:18:57 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 14:18:57 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
Message-ID: <20041124141854.2A38C251E75@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Jeez what's this new verb "to remote in"? How does that decline? I remote
in, he remoted in, he/she/it will have been remoted in.... What's wromg with
using real words? ....grumble, grumble, grumble. Right, I'm going to
keyboard out of this email.

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--------- Original Message --------
From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
Date: 24/11/04 14:10

>
> John,
>
> What mechanism or method do you use to remote in to a client's site?
> I'm struggling with this now.
>
> Does anyone have recommendations or warnings about what works and what
> doesn't?
>
> Thanks!
> Dan Waters
> ProMation Systems
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:24 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] properties
>
> I had a strange occurrence last night and I just wanted to check the
> list to
> see if anyone has ever seen such a thing.
>
> Windows XP / Office XP, I remoted in to a client site and started work
> on a
> FE.  At some point I tried to compact / repair the db and got the old
> error
> message that &quot;the database could be renamed&quot; and the copy was
saved to
> db2.
> I saved the original and then renamed db2 and continued work.  I did NOT
> test editing / adding records etc.  The client was asked to test the
> changes
> and came back very upset that two entire tabs of the form were
&quot;locked&quot;.
> I
> remoted in tonight and started poking around and sure enough all the
> subforms (controls) on those two tabs have the enabled property set to
> no
> which prevents even setting the focus into the subform.  Further all of
> the
> &quot;allow edits/deletions/additions&quot; are set to no for the actual
subforms
> themselves.
>
> My conjecture is that something happened at the point Access tried to
> close
> the database to do the compact/repair or when it attempted to delete the
> original and rename the compacted copy.  Given the damage I've found so
> far
> I certainly don't trust the copy to continue work on.  Who knows what
> else
> has been changed.
>
> Has anyone ever seen such a thing happen?  I never have, but there are
> so
> many properties changed that I have to think that Access somehow set
> these
> properties at some point.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Wed Nov 24 08:31:13 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 08:31:13 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
In-Reply-To: <7198649.1101306110365.JavaMail.root@sniper18.securence.com>
Message-ID: <000d01c4d232$40363a70$de1811d8@danwaters>

Andy,

We talked about how flexible the English language is during the 'English
or Spanish or Something' discussion.  

<grin>

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 7:19 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)

Jeez what's this new verb "to remote in"? How does that decline? I
remote
in, he remoted in, he/she/it will have been remoted in.... What's wromg
with
using real words? ....grumble, grumble, grumble. Right, I'm going to
keyboard out of this email.

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--------- Original Message --------
From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
Date: 24/11/04 14:10

>
> John,
>
> What mechanism or method do you use to remote in to a client's site?
> I'm struggling with this now.
>
> Does anyone have recommendations or warnings about what works and what
> doesn't?
>
> Thanks!
> Dan Waters
> ProMation Systems
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W.
Colby
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:24 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] properties
>
> I had a strange occurrence last night and I just wanted to check the
> list to
> see if anyone has ever seen such a thing.
>
> Windows XP / Office XP, I remoted in to a client site and started work
> on a
> FE.  At some point I tried to compact / repair the db and got the old
> error
> message that &quot;the database could be renamed&quot; and the copy
was
saved to
> db2.
> I saved the original and then renamed db2 and continued work.  I did
NOT
> test editing / adding records etc.  The client was asked to test the
> changes
> and came back very upset that two entire tabs of the form were
&quot;locked&quot;.
> I
> remoted in tonight and started poking around and sure enough all the
> subforms (controls) on those two tabs have the enabled property set to
> no
> which prevents even setting the focus into the subform.  Further all
of
> the
> &quot;allow edits/deletions/additions&quot; are set to no for the
actual
subforms
> themselves.
>
> My conjecture is that something happened at the point Access tried to
> close
> the database to do the compact/repair or when it attempted to delete
the
> original and rename the compacted copy.  Given the damage I've found
so
> far
> I certainly don't trust the copy to continue work on.  Who knows what
> else
> has been changed.
>
> Has anyone ever seen such a thing happen?  I never have, but there are
> so
> many properties changed that I have to think that Access somehow set
> these
> properties at some point.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Wed Nov 24 07:44:39 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 14:44:39 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
Message-ID: <20041124144436.197CE25D223@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

This isn't flexible, this is broken (snapped, bust, fractured, ....)

<exit left muttering to himself about standards, world not being what it
used to be, and other old fart favourites>

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--------- Original Message --------
From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
Date: 24/11/04 14:34

>
> Andy,
>
> We talked about how flexible the English language is during the 'English
> or Spanish or Something' discussion.
>
> &lt;grin&gt;
>
> Dan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 7:19 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
>
> Jeez what's this new verb &quot;to remote in&quot;? How does that decline?
I
> remote
> in, he remoted in, he/she/it will have been remoted in.... What's wromg
> with
> using real words? ....grumble, grumble, grumble. Right, I'm going to
> keyboard out of this email.
>
> --
> Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>
>
>
> --------- Original Message --------
> From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> &lt;accessd at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> &lt;accessd at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
> Date: 24/11/04 14:10
>
> &gt;
> &gt; John,
> &gt;
> &gt; What mechanism or method do you use to remote in to a client's site?
> &gt; I'm struggling with this now.
> &gt;
> &gt; Does anyone have recommendations or warnings about what works and
what
> &gt; doesn't?
> &gt;
> &gt; Thanks!
> &gt; Dan Waters
> &gt; ProMation Systems
> &gt;
> &gt;
> &gt;
> &gt; -----Original Message-----
> &gt; From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> &gt; [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W.
> Colby
> &gt; Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:24 PM
> &gt; To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> &gt; Subject: [AccessD] properties
> &gt;
> &gt; I had a strange occurrence last night and I just wanted to check the
> &gt; list to
> &gt; see if anyone has ever seen such a thing.
> &gt;
> &gt; Windows XP / Office XP, I remoted in to a client site and started
work
> &gt; on a
> &gt; FE.  At some point I tried to compact / repair the db and got the old
> &gt; error
> &gt; message that &amp;quot;the database could be renamed&amp;quot; and
the copy
> was
> saved to
> &gt; db2.
> &gt; I saved the original and then renamed db2 and continued work.  I did
> NOT
> &gt; test editing / adding records etc.  The client was asked to test the
> &gt; changes
> &gt; and came back very upset that two entire tabs of the form were
> &amp;quot;locked&amp;quot;.
> &gt; I
> &gt; remoted in tonight and started poking around and sure enough all the
> &gt; subforms (controls) on those two tabs have the enabled property set
to
> &gt; no
> &gt; which prevents even setting the focus into the subform.  Further all
> of
> &gt; the
> &gt; &amp;quot;allow edits/deletions/additions&amp;quot; are set to no for
the
> actual
> subforms
> &gt; themselves.
> &gt;
> &gt; My conjecture is that something happened at the point Access tried to
> &gt; close
> &gt; the database to do the compact/repair or when it attempted to delete
> the
> &gt; original and rename the compacted copy.  Given the damage I've found
> so
> &gt; far
> &gt; I certainly don't trust the copy to continue work on.  Who knows what
> &gt; else
> &gt; has been changed.
> &gt;
> &gt; Has anyone ever seen such a thing happen?  I never have, but there
are
> &gt; so
> &gt; many properties changed that I have to think that Access somehow set
> &gt; these
> &gt; properties at some point.
> &gt;
> &gt; John W. Colby
> &gt; www.ColbyConsulting.com
> &gt;
> &gt; Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> &gt; http://folding.stanford.edu/
> &gt;
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From Subscriptions at servicexp.com  Wed Nov 24 08:53:55 2004
From: Subscriptions at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 09:53:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] properties
In-Reply-To: <001401c4d1cc$9fb37b90$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
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Hello John,
 Does your code in anyway manipulate those properties during runtime, and if
so, does your code check for the property state at the forms start up? 

 I say this because when your move to design mode, and make changes and save
the form, the new property settings have a habit of getting saved also. 

I run into this situation often.

Robert Gracie

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 9:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] properties

I had a strange occurrence last night and I just wanted to check the list to
see if anyone has ever seen such a thing.

Windows XP / Office XP, I remoted in to a client site and started work on a
FE.  At some point I tried to compact / repair the db and got the old error
message that "the database could be renamed" and the copy was saved to db2.
I saved the original and then renamed db2 and continued work.  I did NOT
test editing / adding records etc.  The client was asked to test the changes
and came back very upset that two entire tabs of the form were "locked".  I
remoted in tonight and started poking around and sure enough all the
subforms (controls) on those two tabs have the enabled property set to no
which prevents even setting the focus into the subform.  Further all of the
"allow edits/deletions/additions" are set to no for the actual subforms
themselves.

My conjecture is that something happened at the point Access tried to close
the database to do the compact/repair or when it attempted to delete the
original and rename the compacted copy.  Given the damage I've found so far
I certainly don't trust the copy to continue work on.  Who knows what else
has been changed.

Has anyone ever seen such a thing happen?  I never have, but there are so
many properties changed that I have to think that Access somehow set these
properties at some point.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Wed Nov 24 08:55:45 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 09:55:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA103F3399C@nprdex02.nns.com>

Yep...Google it up;)))))


Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 9:31 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)


Andy,

We talked about how flexible the English language is during the 'English
or Spanish or Something' discussion.  

<grin>

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 7:19 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)

Jeez what's this new verb "to remote in"? How does that decline? I
remote
in, he remoted in, he/she/it will have been remoted in.... What's wromg
with
using real words? ....grumble, grumble, grumble. Right, I'm going to
keyboard out of this email.

--
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http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



--------- Original Message --------
From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
Date: 24/11/04 14:10

>
> John,
>
> What mechanism or method do you use to remote in to a client's site?
> I'm struggling with this now.
>
> Does anyone have recommendations or warnings about what works and what
> doesn't?
>
> Thanks!
> Dan Waters
> ProMation Systems
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W.
Colby
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:24 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] properties
>
> I had a strange occurrence last night and I just wanted to check the
> list to
> see if anyone has ever seen such a thing.
>
> Windows XP / Office XP, I remoted in to a client site and started work
> on a
> FE.  At some point I tried to compact / repair the db and got the old
> error
> message that &quot;the database could be renamed&quot; and the copy
was
saved to
> db2.
> I saved the original and then renamed db2 and continued work.  I did
NOT
> test editing / adding records etc.  The client was asked to test the
> changes
> and came back very upset that two entire tabs of the form were
&quot;locked&quot;.
> I
> remoted in tonight and started poking around and sure enough all the
> subforms (controls) on those two tabs have the enabled property set to
> no
> which prevents even setting the focus into the subform.  Further all
of
> the
> &quot;allow edits/deletions/additions&quot; are set to no for the
actual
subforms
> themselves.
>
> My conjecture is that something happened at the point Access tried to
> close
> the database to do the compact/repair or when it attempted to delete
the
> original and rename the compacted copy.  Given the damage I've found
so
> far
> I certainly don't trust the copy to continue work on.  Who knows what
> else
> has been changed.
>
> Has anyone ever seen such a thing happen?  I never have, but there are
> so
> many properties changed that I have to think that Access somehow set
> these
> properties at some point.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
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From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Wed Nov 24 09:34:39 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Steve Conklin (Developer@UltraDNT))
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:34:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
In-Reply-To: <000c01c4d22e$fe9f5540$de1811d8@danwaters>
Message-ID: <002401c4d23b$1d02c240$0200a8c0@COA3>

Good old pcAnywhere does alright via TCPIP over broadband, fast enough
to do design work on the host (need a copy on both PC's however).
GoToMyPC is my other choice, works on any PC with an Internet
connection; good for file tranfers that are too large for email servers,
but a bit slow for development but its outstanding to "dial home" to
check email from anywhere.

Hth
Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 9:08 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)


John,

What mechanism or method do you use to remote in to a client's site? I'm
struggling with this now. 

Does anyone have recommendations or warnings about what works and what
doesn't?

Thanks!
Dan Waters
ProMation Systems



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] properties

I had a strange occurrence last night and I just wanted to check the
list to see if anyone has ever seen such a thing.

Windows XP / Office XP, I remoted in to a client site and started work
on a FE.  At some point I tried to compact / repair the db and got the
old error message that "the database could be renamed" and the copy was
saved to db2. I saved the original and then renamed db2 and continued
work.  I did NOT test editing / adding records etc.  The client was
asked to test the changes and came back very upset that two entire tabs
of the form were "locked". I remoted in tonight and started poking
around and sure enough all the subforms (controls) on those two tabs
have the enabled property set to no which prevents even setting the
focus into the subform.  Further all of the "allow
edits/deletions/additions" are set to no for the actual subforms
themselves.

My conjecture is that something happened at the point Access tried to
close the database to do the compact/repair or when it attempted to
delete the original and rename the compacted copy.  Given the damage
I've found so far I certainly don't trust the copy to continue work on.
Who knows what else has been changed.

Has anyone ever seen such a thing happen?  I never have, but there are
so many properties changed that I have to think that Access somehow set
these properties at some point.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From GregSmith at starband.net  Wed Nov 24 09:41:45 2004
From: GregSmith at starband.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 09:41:45 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD] properties
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAkFctmauQHEapbETsA84PTMKAAAAQAAAADaRONWCYaE6drMu9JUHdfwEAAAAA@servicexp.com>
References: <001401c4d1cc$9fb37b90$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
	<!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAkFctmauQHEapbETsA84PTMKAAAAQAAAADaRONWCYaE6drMu9JUHdfwEAAAAA@servicexp.com>
Message-ID: <1368.65.118.249.206.1101310905.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>

John:

I've had this happen before, with A97, A2k and A2003.  I thought
originally it was just A97...and I still have no clue as to why it does
it.  Just occasionally it won't replace the original...the computer is
having a "bit phart" or something.  Any time that it happens, I throw out
both the original I was working on (hopefully backed up... before the
compact/repair) and what it generated and start the process over with a
fresh copy.  I close out of Access (whatever version I was using at the
time...) and sometimes, reboot the computer I was on before trying it
again.  By doing this, I've not run into what you've described because
I've not kept the 'questionable' copy.  And that's exactly why I do all of
this so I don't have the app in some condition that's questionable.

As for 'remoting in', ummm, hmmm, "I use RDC to connect ..."...:) that way
I don't add any new words to the English language...and it doesn't NEED
any new ones...LOL.

Greg Smith
gregsmith at starband.net

> Hello John,
>  Does your code in anyway manipulate those properties during runtime,
> and if
> so, does your code check for the property state at the forms start up?
>
>  I say this because when your move to design mode, and make changes and
> save
> the form, the new property settings have a habit of getting saved also.
>
> I run into this situation often.
>
> Robert Gracie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 9:24 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] properties
>
> I had a strange occurrence last night and I just wanted to check the
> list to see if anyone has ever seen such a thing.
>
> Windows XP / Office XP, I remoted in to a client site and started work
> on a FE.  At some point I tried to compact / repair the db and got the
> old error message that "the database could be renamed" and the copy was
> saved to db2. I saved the original and then renamed db2 and continued
> work.  I did NOT test editing / adding records etc.  The client was
> asked to test the changes and came back very upset that two entire tabs
> of the form were "locked".  I remoted in tonight and started poking
> around and sure enough all the subforms (controls) on those two tabs
> have the enabled property set to no which prevents even setting the
> focus into the subform.  Further all of the "allow
> edits/deletions/additions" are set to no for the actual subforms
> themselves.
>
> My conjecture is that something happened at the point Access tried to
> close the database to do the compact/repair or when it attempted to
> delete the original and rename the compacted copy.  Given the damage
> I've found so far I certainly don't trust the copy to continue work on.
> Who knows what else has been changed.
>
> Has anyone ever seen such a thing happen?  I never have, but there are
> so many properties changed that I have to think that Access somehow set
> these properties at some point.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Nov 24 09:42:06 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:42:06 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
In-Reply-To: <20041124141854.2A38C251E75@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <000801c4d23c$2bd226c0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Lol.  Following your logic we would have NO words because someone had to
make up a word to fit a noun / verb.  There is nothing wrong with using
"Remote in" to replace a paragraph describing the process in excruciating
detail so that the person understands that you remoted in.  ;-)

I remoted in

Or

I used remote desktop to connect to my client's computer...

I think I will remote in thanks!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 8:19 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)


Jeez what's this new verb "to remote in"? How does that decline? I remote
in, he remoted in, he/she/it will have been remoted in.... What's wromg with
using real words? ....grumble, grumble, grumble. Right, I'm going to
keyboard out of this email.

--
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http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



--------- Original Message --------
From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
Date: 24/11/04 14:10

>
> John,
>
> What mechanism or method do you use to remote in to a client's site? 
> I'm struggling with this now.
>
> Does anyone have recommendations or warnings about what works and what 
> doesn't?
>
> Thanks!
> Dan Waters
> ProMation Systems
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. 
> Colby
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:24 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] properties
>
> I had a strange occurrence last night and I just wanted to check the 
> list to see if anyone has ever seen such a thing.
>
> Windows XP / Office XP, I remoted in to a client site and started work 
> on a FE.  At some point I tried to compact / repair the db and got the 
> old error
> message that &quot;the database could be renamed&quot; and the copy was
saved to
> db2.
> I saved the original and then renamed db2 and continued work.  I did 
> NOT test editing / adding records etc.  The client was asked to test 
> the changes and came back very upset that two entire tabs of the form 
> were
&quot;locked&quot;.
> I
> remoted in tonight and started poking around and sure enough all the 
> subforms (controls) on those two tabs have the enabled property set to 
> no which prevents even setting the focus into the subform.  Further 
> all of the
> &quot;allow edits/deletions/additions&quot; are set to no for the actual
subforms
> themselves.
>
> My conjecture is that something happened at the point Access tried to 
> close the database to do the compact/repair or when it attempted to 
> delete the original and rename the compacted copy.  Given the damage 
> I've found so far
> I certainly don't trust the copy to continue work on.  Who knows what
> else
> has been changed.
>
> Has anyone ever seen such a thing happen?  I never have, but there are 
> so many properties changed that I have to think that Access somehow 
> set these
> properties at some point.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Nov 24 09:43:28 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:43:28 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
In-Reply-To: <000c01c4d22e$fe9f5540$de1811d8@danwaters>
Message-ID: <000901c4d23c$5cca2980$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

I use the remote desktop built in to windows XP.  It's really pretty simple,
the biggest issue is to insure that it is started as a service on the target
desktop, then that ports are opened on the target router to allow them in.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 9:08 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)


John,

What mechanism or method do you use to remote in to a client's site? I'm
struggling with this now. 

Does anyone have recommendations or warnings about what works and what
doesn't?

Thanks!
Dan Waters
ProMation Systems



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] properties

I had a strange occurrence last night and I just wanted to check the list to
see if anyone has ever seen such a thing.

Windows XP / Office XP, I remoted in to a client site and started work on a
FE.  At some point I tried to compact / repair the db and got the old error
message that "the database could be renamed" and the copy was saved to db2.
I saved the original and then renamed db2 and continued work.  I did NOT
test editing / adding records etc.  The client was asked to test the changes
and came back very upset that two entire tabs of the form were "locked". I
remoted in tonight and started poking around and sure enough all the
subforms (controls) on those two tabs have the enabled property set to no
which prevents even setting the focus into the subform.  Further all of the
"allow edits/deletions/additions" are set to no for the actual subforms
themselves.

My conjecture is that something happened at the point Access tried to close
the database to do the compact/repair or when it attempted to delete the
original and rename the compacted copy.  Given the damage I've found so far
I certainly don't trust the copy to continue work on.  Who knows what else
has been changed.

Has anyone ever seen such a thing happen?  I never have, but there are so
many properties changed that I have to think that Access somehow set these
properties at some point.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Nov 24 09:44:06 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:44:06 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] #Num!
In-Reply-To: <s1a46632.099@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <000a01c4d23c$6e774f00$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Cool, thanks!

John W. Colby
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 4:45 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] #Num!


Hi John

In case you haven't found out yet, here is:

  wkb.SaveAs FileName:="d:\temp\test.csv", FileFormat:=xlCSV,
CreateBackup:=False

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 23-11-2004 15:07:48 >>>
I keep forgetting about this method.  I have never automated Excel to save a
sheet as a csv.  Does anyone have working code to do this?

John W. Colby
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 7:42 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] #Num!


Hi John

That's not nice. Who makes such spreadsheets?

How about saving (via code) the worksheet to a text file (.csv) and then
read this line by line validating the fields? Not very fancy, I know, but
what options are left?

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 23-11-2004 13:10:09 >>>
I'm trying to import it into a temp table and get a "numeric overflow" when
trying to do the append.  This even though I have converted ALL of the
fields to text.  The issue is coming from a date field with null in the
first record (but dates in most of the rest).  

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From jmoss111 at bellsouth.net  Wed Nov 24 09:48:30 2004
From: jmoss111 at bellsouth.net (jmoss111 at bellsouth.net)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:48:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
Message-ID: <20041124154829.DTNE1980.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net>

RAdmin is the fastest remote product that I've used. And PlanetDNS is similar to GoTopMyPC but maybe a little faster and much cheaper.

JM
> 
> From: "Steve Conklin \(Developer at UltraDNT\)" <Developer at UltraDNT.com>
> Date: 2004/11/24 Wed AM 10:34:39 EST
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> 	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
> 
> Good old pcAnywhere does alright via TCPIP over broadband, fast enough
> to do design work on the host (need a copy on both PC's however).
> GoToMyPC is my other choice, works on any PC with an Internet
> connection; good for file tranfers that are too large for email servers,
> but a bit slow for development but its outstanding to "dial home" to
> check email from anywhere.
> 
> Hth
> Steve
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 9:08 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
> 
> 
> John,
> 
> What mechanism or method do you use to remote in to a client's site? I'm
> struggling with this now. 
> 
> Does anyone have recommendations or warnings about what works and what
> doesn't?
> 
> Thanks!
> Dan Waters
> ProMation Systems
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:24 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] properties
> 
> I had a strange occurrence last night and I just wanted to check the
> list to see if anyone has ever seen such a thing.
> 
> Windows XP / Office XP, I remoted in to a client site and started work
> on a FE.  At some point I tried to compact / repair the db and got the
> old error message that "the database could be renamed" and the copy was
> saved to db2. I saved the original and then renamed db2 and continued
> work.  I did NOT test editing / adding records etc.  The client was
> asked to test the changes and came back very upset that two entire tabs
> of the form were "locked". I remoted in tonight and started poking
> around and sure enough all the subforms (controls) on those two tabs
> have the enabled property set to no which prevents even setting the
> focus into the subform.  Further all of the "allow
> edits/deletions/additions" are set to no for the actual subforms
> themselves.
> 
> My conjecture is that something happened at the point Access tried to
> close the database to do the compact/repair or when it attempted to
> delete the original and rename the compacted copy.  Given the damage
> I've found so far I certainly don't trust the copy to continue work on.
> Who knows what else has been changed.
> 
> Has anyone ever seen such a thing happen?  I never have, but there are
> so many properties changed that I have to think that Access somehow set
> these properties at some point.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com 
> 
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
> 
> 
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From john at winhaven.net  Wed Nov 24 09:50:43 2004
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 09:50:43 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
In-Reply-To: <000c01c4d22e$fe9f5540$de1811d8@danwaters>
Message-ID: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKIKEFFGDAA.john@winhaven.net>

Gustav just pointed me to NetOP (http://www.crossteccorp.com/) which is
really fast. Just bought a license.

Thanks Again Gustav!

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 8:08 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)


John,

What mechanism or method do you use to remote in to a client's site?
I'm struggling with this now.

Does anyone have recommendations or warnings about what works and what
doesn't?

Thanks!
Dan Waters
ProMation Systems



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] properties

I had a strange occurrence last night and I just wanted to check the
list to
see if anyone has ever seen such a thing.

Windows XP / Office XP, I remoted in to a client site and started work
on a
FE.  At some point I tried to compact / repair the db and got the old
error
message that "the database could be renamed" and the copy was saved to
db2.
I saved the original and then renamed db2 and continued work.  I did NOT
test editing / adding records etc.  The client was asked to test the
changes
and came back very upset that two entire tabs of the form were "locked".
I
remoted in tonight and started poking around and sure enough all the
subforms (controls) on those two tabs have the enabled property set to
no
which prevents even setting the focus into the subform.  Further all of
the
"allow edits/deletions/additions" are set to no for the actual subforms
themselves.

My conjecture is that something happened at the point Access tried to
close
the database to do the compact/repair or when it attempted to delete the
original and rename the compacted copy.  Given the damage I've found so
far
I certainly don't trust the copy to continue work on.  Who knows what
else
has been changed.

Has anyone ever seen such a thing happen?  I never have, but there are
so
many properties changed that I have to think that Access somehow set
these
properties at some point.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Nov 24 09:56:53 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 09:56:53 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D0CC@main2.marlow.com>

I recommend Remote Administrator	http://www.famatech.com

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 8:08 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)


John,

What mechanism or method do you use to remote in to a client's site?
I'm struggling with this now. 

Does anyone have recommendations or warnings about what works and what
doesn't?

Thanks!
Dan Waters
ProMation Systems



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] properties

I had a strange occurrence last night and I just wanted to check the
list to
see if anyone has ever seen such a thing.

Windows XP / Office XP, I remoted in to a client site and started work
on a
FE.  At some point I tried to compact / repair the db and got the old
error
message that "the database could be renamed" and the copy was saved to
db2.
I saved the original and then renamed db2 and continued work.  I did NOT
test editing / adding records etc.  The client was asked to test the
changes
and came back very upset that two entire tabs of the form were "locked".
I
remoted in tonight and started poking around and sure enough all the
subforms (controls) on those two tabs have the enabled property set to
no
which prevents even setting the focus into the subform.  Further all of
the
"allow edits/deletions/additions" are set to no for the actual subforms
themselves.

My conjecture is that something happened at the point Access tried to
close
the database to do the compact/repair or when it attempted to delete the
original and rename the compacted copy.  Given the damage I've found so
far
I certainly don't trust the copy to continue work on.  Who knows what
else
has been changed.

Has anyone ever seen such a thing happen?  I never have, but there are
so
many properties changed that I have to think that Access somehow set
these
properties at some point.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov 24 10:33:31 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 17:33:31 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
Message-ID: <s1a4c604.018@cactus.dk>

OK John, you are welcome.

The nice thing with NetOp is that it can find its way through any
corparate firewall and security system - a drawing at their site
illustrates this fine.

/gustav

>>> john at winhaven.net 24-11-2004 16:50:43 >>>
Gustav just pointed me to NetOP (http://www.crossteccorp.com/) which
is
really fast. Just bought a license.

Thanks Again Gustav!

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 8:08 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)


John,

What mechanism or method do you use to remote in to a client's site?
I'm struggling with this now.

Does anyone have recommendations or warnings about what works and what
doesn't?

Thanks!
Dan Waters
ProMation Systems



From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Wed Nov 24 11:27:12 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 12:27:12 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] I Have Lost my Property!!
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C46D@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

Name, Modified, Created, Type.... Where did my properties column go in
database design?  XP version.  I am beginning to not like XP.  Any
suggestions?


From john at winhaven.net  Wed Nov 24 11:48:23 2004
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 11:48:23 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D0CC@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKIOEFHGDAA.john@winhaven.net>

Drew:
Do you have any issues with the firewall/gateway/proxy server?

John B.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 9:57 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)


I recommend Remote Administrator	http://www.famatech.com

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 8:08 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)


John,

What mechanism or method do you use to remote in to a client's site?
I'm struggling with this now. 

Does anyone have recommendations or warnings about what works and what
doesn't?

Thanks!
Dan Waters
ProMation Systems



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] properties

I had a strange occurrence last night and I just wanted to check the
list to
see if anyone has ever seen such a thing.

Windows XP / Office XP, I remoted in to a client site and started work
on a
FE.  At some point I tried to compact / repair the db and got the old
error
message that "the database could be renamed" and the copy was saved to
db2.
I saved the original and then renamed db2 and continued work.  I did NOT
test editing / adding records etc.  The client was asked to test the
changes
and came back very upset that two entire tabs of the form were "locked".
I
remoted in tonight and started poking around and sure enough all the
subforms (controls) on those two tabs have the enabled property set to
no
which prevents even setting the focus into the subform.  Further all of
the
"allow edits/deletions/additions" are set to no for the actual subforms
themselves.

My conjecture is that something happened at the point Access tried to
close
the database to do the compact/repair or when it attempted to delete the
original and rename the compacted copy.  Given the damage I've found so
far
I certainly don't trust the copy to continue work on.  Who knows what
else
has been changed.

Has anyone ever seen such a thing happen?  I never have, but there are
so
many properties changed that I have to think that Access somehow set
these
properties at some point.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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http://folding.stanford.edu/


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 24 12:22:16 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:22:16 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
In-Reply-To: <000901c4d23c$5cca2980$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIKEJICIAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

XP Remote in needs port 3389 open.

Remotely yours
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 7:43 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)


I use the remote desktop built in to windows XP.  It's really pretty simple,
the biggest issue is to insure that it is started as a service on the target
desktop, then that ports are opened on the target router to allow them in.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 9:08 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)


John,

What mechanism or method do you use to remote in to a client's site? I'm
struggling with this now.

Does anyone have recommendations or warnings about what works and what
doesn't?

Thanks!
Dan Waters
ProMation Systems



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] properties

I had a strange occurrence last night and I just wanted to check the list to
see if anyone has ever seen such a thing.

Windows XP / Office XP, I remoted in to a client site and started work on a
FE.  At some point I tried to compact / repair the db and got the old error
message that "the database could be renamed" and the copy was saved to db2.
I saved the original and then renamed db2 and continued work.  I did NOT
test editing / adding records etc.  The client was asked to test the changes
and came back very upset that two entire tabs of the form were "locked". I
remoted in tonight and started poking around and sure enough all the
subforms (controls) on those two tabs have the enabled property set to no
which prevents even setting the focus into the subform.  Further all of the
"allow edits/deletions/additions" are set to no for the actual subforms
themselves.

My conjecture is that something happened at the point Access tried to close
the database to do the compact/repair or when it attempted to delete the
original and rename the compacted copy.  Given the damage I've found so far
I certainly don't trust the copy to continue work on.  Who knows what else
has been changed.

Has anyone ever seen such a thing happen?  I never have, but there are so
many properties changed that I have to think that Access somehow set these
properties at some point.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Nov 24 12:41:21 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 13:41:21 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
	Something
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20041124075614.012ae938@pop3.highstream.net>
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20041124075614.012ae938@pop3.highstream.net>
Message-ID: <41A4D5D1.4020508@rogers.com>

That is no indication of the elasticity of language; it's simply a case 
of homonyms.

Robert L. Stewart wrote:

> I think the words to, too, and two would also have fit.
>
> At 06:51 AM 11/24/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>
>> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:04:18 -0500
>> From: Arthur Fuller <artful at rogers.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Re: Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
>>         Something
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Message-ID: <41A3D002.7080900 at rogers.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> No offence intended. It just happens to be one of the most vivid
>> examples of the elasticity of English. For a less vulgar example,
>> consider the word "cool" or as the young would have it, "kewl". You may
>> well be right; I should perhaps have used that word instead. But my
>> intent was not vulgarity but rather illumination on the elasticity of
>> English. Apologies if I offended.
>>
>> Robert L. Stewart wrote:
>>
>> > Or as I have heard in Russia... Pamoika (which is the fragrant
>> > liquid you see running from a dumpster) Arthur, I think your
>> > choice of examples could have been a bit less expressive of
>> > the vulgar.
>> >
>> > Robert
>
>
>


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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Wed Nov 24 12:53:32 2004
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 13:53:32 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] I Have Lost my Property!!
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A285A@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Try resizing the Name column by dragging the vertical line between columns.
It should then reveal the hidden 'Description' (not 'Properties') column.

You'll need to drag from the right side of the line, not the left. 

BTW, exactly the same thing hastens in Access 97, so don't blame XP :-)

Lambert


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen
> Sent:	Wednesday, November 24, 2004 12:27 PM
> To:	accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject:	[AccessD] I Have Lost my Property!!
> 
> Name, Modified, Created, Type.... Where did my properties column go in
> database design?  XP version.  I am beginning to not like XP.  Any
> suggestions?
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Nov 24 13:06:44 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 13:06:44 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D0CE@main2.marlow.com>

No.  Remote Admin can act as it's own router (for other Remote Admin
sessions).  So you just have to make one computer with the Remote Admin
Server on it 'visible' to the internet (on whatever port you use, which is
customizable).  Then if you want to connect to an internal computer, you
'route' through that server to get to anything in house.

What I like about Remote Admin is that it is very lightweight, extremely
fast (works very well even over a dialup), and it does use NT Security if
you want it too.

They are working on version 3 (which is in beta).  It has a lot of features
that I have wanted, which will really make it the absolute top grade Remote
software out there.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 11:48 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)


Drew:
Do you have any issues with the firewall/gateway/proxy server?

John B.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 9:57 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)


I recommend Remote Administrator	http://www.famatech.com

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 8:08 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)


John,

What mechanism or method do you use to remote in to a client's site?
I'm struggling with this now. 

Does anyone have recommendations or warnings about what works and what
doesn't?

Thanks!
Dan Waters
ProMation Systems



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] properties

I had a strange occurrence last night and I just wanted to check the
list to
see if anyone has ever seen such a thing.

Windows XP / Office XP, I remoted in to a client site and started work
on a
FE.  At some point I tried to compact / repair the db and got the old
error
message that "the database could be renamed" and the copy was saved to
db2.
I saved the original and then renamed db2 and continued work.  I did NOT
test editing / adding records etc.  The client was asked to test the
changes
and came back very upset that two entire tabs of the form were "locked".
I
remoted in tonight and started poking around and sure enough all the
subforms (controls) on those two tabs have the enabled property set to
no
which prevents even setting the focus into the subform.  Further all of
the
"allow edits/deletions/additions" are set to no for the actual subforms
themselves.

My conjecture is that something happened at the point Access tried to
close
the database to do the compact/repair or when it attempted to delete the
original and rename the compacted copy.  Given the damage I've found so
far
I certainly don't trust the copy to continue work on.  Who knows what
else
has been changed.

Has anyone ever seen such a thing happen?  I never have, but there are
so
many properties changed that I have to think that Access somehow set
these
properties at some point.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Wed Nov 24 15:01:44 2004
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 13:01:44 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D0CE@main2.marlow.com>
References: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D0CE@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <b874372a041124130141070df9@mail.gmail.com>

for customer support, I like using Ultr at Vnc

Cost: free

I have the end user install, and then send me their connection by
right clicking the icon and click on 'add new client' then they just
type my URL and BOOM! it's all done... no need for pwds or fidling w/
Company Networks.

it IS fast over DSL 128k up.  the only problem is that you must ask
them to install the software themselves.  but since you don't have to
ask for any changes to their firewall it works so easily :) sorta like
a gotomypc except they send you their screen.

plus w/ Ultr at VNC you can FTP files over when you need to and it sports
a chat client... also very nice. nothing like IM, but hey it works.


On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 13:06:44 -0600, dwutka at marlow.com <dwutka at marlow.com> wrote:
> No.  Remote Admin can act as it's own router (for other Remote Admin
> sessions).  So you just have to make one computer with the Remote Admin
> Server on it 'visible' to the internet (on whatever port you use, which is
> customizable).  Then if you want to connect to an internal computer, you
> 'route' through that server to get to anything in house.
> 
> What I like about Remote Admin is that it is very lightweight, extremely
> fast (works very well even over a dialup), and it does use NT Security if
> you want it too.
> 
> They are working on version 3 (which is in beta).  It has a lot of features
> that I have wanted, which will really make it the absolute top grade Remote
> software out there.
> 
> Drew
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 11:48 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
> 
> Drew:
> Do you have any issues with the firewall/gateway/proxy server?
> 
> John B.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
> DWUTKA at marlow.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 9:57 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
> 
> I recommend Remote Administrator        http://www.famatech.com
> 
> Drew
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 8:08 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Remoting In (was: properties)
> 
> John,
> 
> What mechanism or method do you use to remote in to a client's site?
> I'm struggling with this now.
> 
> Does anyone have recommendations or warnings about what works and what
> doesn't?
> 
> Thanks!
> Dan Waters
> ProMation Systems
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:24 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] properties
> 
> I had a strange occurrence last night and I just wanted to check the
> list to
> see if anyone has ever seen such a thing.
> 
> Windows XP / Office XP, I remoted in to a client site and started work
> on a
> FE.  At some point I tried to compact / repair the db and got the old
> error
> message that "the database could be renamed" and the copy was saved to
> db2.
> I saved the original and then renamed db2 and continued work.  I did NOT
> test editing / adding records etc.  The client was asked to test the
> changes
> and came back very upset that two entire tabs of the form were "locked".
> I
> remoted in tonight and started poking around and sure enough all the
> subforms (controls) on those two tabs have the enabled property set to
> no
> which prevents even setting the focus into the subform.  Further all of
> the
> "allow edits/deletions/additions" are set to no for the actual subforms
> themselves.
> 
> My conjecture is that something happened at the point Access tried to
> close
> the database to do the compact/repair or when it attempted to delete the
> original and rename the compacted copy.  Given the damage I've found so
> far
> I certainly don't trust the copy to continue work on.  Who knows what
> else
> has been changed.
> 
> Has anyone ever seen such a thing happen?  I never have, but there are
> so
> many properties changed that I have to think that Access somehow set
> these
> properties at some point.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
> 
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From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk  Thu Nov 25 02:50:05 2004
From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 08:50:05 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Som
	ething
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318805CED83B@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Anything that's spelt differently is no problem for text translation, only
aural translation. So I don't think those *would* work! 

Right (correct) and right (hand) and free (at liberty) and free (gratuit)
are the only ones I can think of just now.

Roz

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From: Jim Hewson [mailto:JHewson at karta.com] 
Sent: 24 November 2004 14:04
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
Something



Or their, there and they're.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Robert L. Stewart
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 7:57 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or Something


I think the words to, too, and two would also have fit.

At 06:51 AM 11/24/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:04:18 -0500
>From: Arthur Fuller <artful at rogers.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Re: Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
>         Something
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <41A3D002.7080900 at rogers.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>No offence intended. It just happens to be one of the most vivid 
>examples of the elasticity of English. For a less vulgar example, 
>consider the word "cool" or as the young would have it, "kewl". You may 
>well be right; I should perhaps have used that word instead. But my 
>intent was not vulgarity but rather illumination on the elasticity of 
>English. Apologies if I offended.
>
>Robert L. Stewart wrote:
>
> > Or as I have heard in Russia... Pamoika (which is the fragrant 
> > liquid you see running from a dumpster) Arthur, I think your choice 
> > of examples could have been a bit less expressive of the vulgar.
> >
> > Robert


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From artful at rogers.com  Sat Nov 27 19:18:36 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 20:18:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Test
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Nov 27 19:34:26 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 20:34:26 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Test
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Just checking. Dead quiet around here this weekend.

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sat Nov 27 19:41:17 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 17:41:17 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Switchboards
Message-ID: <001201c4d4eb$5d83fa70$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

I think it was this list someone asked about more robust switchboards.

 

Take a look here: http://www.peterssoftware.com/abs.htm

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 



From EricGoetz at egisystems.com  Sat Nov 27 20:04:52 2004
From: EricGoetz at egisystems.com (Eric Goetz)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 18:04:52 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ExportXML fails calulated where in acc2003?
Message-ID: <37E09725C7EB7B4F9E1ACA8F24EE55DB203EB7@servera22.doma.ops>

Hi,

I thought I'd incorporate a little XML in transferring data from an
Access 2003 mdb to an Excel spreadsheet. The Excel XML List looks like a
useful feature. The trouble is, I can't get Access to output the XML.

I'm running Access 2003 as part of a complete install of Office 2003
Enterprise Edition with SP1. I've tried this on two machines: XPProSP1a
and XPProSP2.

I've wasted my day isolating a test case, and here it is...

Test A, make sure you can do a simple export to XML.
1. Take a fresh copy of Northwind.mdb
2. Right click on the query called "Alphabetical List of Products" and
select "Export..."
3. Use the combobox "Save as type:" to select XML.
4. Click "Export"
5. Take the defaults on the subsequent dialogs.
6. Open the ".xml" file that you just created.
7. WOW! You now know how to use XML!

Test B, actually try to use XML to do some work.
1. Open the query "Alphabetical List of Products" in design view.
2. Add criteria to "CatagoryName" of Like "S*", which gives SQL of:
      SELECT Products.*, Categories.CategoryName
      FROM Categories INNER JOIN Products ON 
      Categories.CategoryID = Products.CategoryID
      WHERE (((Categories.CategoryName) Like "S*") AND       
             (Products.Discontinued)=No));
3. Run the query to see that you get the 12 products from the Seafood
category.
4. Save the query.
5. Perform steps 2 through 6 from Test A.
6. I get a nearly empty file. HUH? I thought I knew how to use XML.

How about you?

It seems that just about any calculation in the WHERE clause kills
ExportXML. I've tried it from VBA as well as the manual method employed
above.

Thanks,
 
Eric
 



From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sat Nov 27 22:40:30 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 20:40:30 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] code problem
Message-ID: <000701c4d504$675844c0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

I am copying and will attribute the following code from KG et al ADH

 

Private Sub cboEmpName_NotInList(newdata As String, Response As Integer)

Dim strMsg As String

Dim rst As Recordset

Dim db As Database

 

 

    strMsg = "'"& NewData &"'" is not in the list. "

    strMsg = strMsg & "Would you like to add them?"

 

Does any one know why the first strMsg line is evaluating to to red ?

 

Thanks 

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 



From Itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net  Sat Nov 27 22:51:27 2004
From: Itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net (Jeremy Toves)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 22:51:27 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] code problem
In-Reply-To: <000701c4d504$675844c0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <KEEPKFMIOILBMMDILFPNKEJDCHAA.Itsame2000@sbcglobal.net>

I'm guessing you just want to enclose the NewData string in single quotes.
Try this.

    strMsg = "'" & NewData & "' is not in the list. "



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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 10:41 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] code problem


I am copying and will attribute the following code from KG et al ADH



Private Sub cboEmpName_NotInList(newdata As String, Response As Integer)

Dim strMsg As String

Dim rst As Recordset

Dim db As Database





    strMsg = "'"& NewData &"'" is not in the list. "

    strMsg = strMsg & "Would you like to add them?"



Does any one know why the first strMsg line is evaluating to to red ?



Thanks



JOE HECHT

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sat Nov 27 22:52:28 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 20:52:28 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Macro Security in Runtime "issue"...
In-Reply-To: <41A25CA4.806@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <001501c4d506$1368c590$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

Would turning off warnings in tools options help on this?

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 1:40 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003 Macro Security in Runtime "issue"...


Get their network guy to change the following registry settings of the
following key, should help you change the security level of the macro in 
Access 2003. He should be able to change this globally across the 
network for each client PC, there is even a way to do this from Access 
VBA code using WMI with proper network permissions.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Access\Security\Level

If the value is 1, then the macro security of Access 2003 is set to low.
If the value is 2, then the macro security of Access 2003 is set to medium.
If the value is 3, then the macro security of Access 2003 is set to high.

WARNING: If you use Registry Editor incorrectly, you may cause serious 
problems that may require you to reinstall your operating system. 
Microsoft cannot guarantee that you can solve problems that result from 
using Registry Editor incorrectly. Use Registry Editor at your own risk.
--------------
or you could try this subroutine to execute on the runtime startup as 
toolbar menus are disabled by runtime methods

maybe after checking this is set. I forget the order of execution.
 Access.Application.AutomationSecurity = 1 ' msoAutomationSecurityLow

  This sub activates the Macro -> Security submenu to open
' the Macro Security dialog window for the user who is using
' the runtime version of Access '03 instead of the retail version,
' which may need to have the default security level changed in
' order to run the code in the modules.
'This sub requires the Microsoft Office 11.0 Library reference

http://www.access.qbuilt.com/html/vba.html#SetMacroSecLvl
-----------------
or
Sagekey has an Access 2003 MSI install script that avoids this but is $425.
----------------
or build your own security certicate but then you still have to install 
in users certificate pool

There are some easier ways but not if it is a runtime

Greg Smith wrote:

>Hello everyone!
>
>Is there a way to shut off the security messages you get in Access 2003 in
>a runtime version of an application?  I have them shut off on my computer
>and it works fine here, but when I have the customer install it on their
>computer(s) (they don't have Access installed at all), they get the
>messages on startup about unsafe expressions, etc.  They can't shut them
>off on their computers because the application doesn't allow access to
>those areas (restricted menus).
>
>I was hoping to be able to do it internally (in vb), but that's probably
>exactly what MS is trying to prevent with the security.  So far they've
>succeeded and I've failed...and turning warnings on/off doesn't do it
>either.
>
>Of course, if they have Access installed, I'll tell them to just shut off
>the macro security (set it to 'low')...which has it's inherent dangers,
>but in most cases is ok.
>
>Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
>TIA!
>
>Greg Smith
>gregsmith at starband.net
>
>
>  
>

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Nov 27 22:57:07 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 23:57:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] code problem
In-Reply-To: <000701c4d504$675844c0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <000301c4d506$b9593d90$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

>    strMsg = "'"& NewData &"'" is not in the list. "

Use:

    strMsg = "'" & NewData & "'" & " is not in the list. "


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 11:41 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] code problem


I am copying and will attribute the following code from KG et al ADH

 

Private Sub cboEmpName_NotInList(newdata As String, Response As Integer)

Dim strMsg As String

Dim rst As Recordset

Dim db As Database

 

 

    strMsg = "'"& NewData &"'" is not in the list. "

    strMsg = strMsg & "Would you like to add them?"

 

Does any one know why the first strMsg line is evaluating to to red ?

 

Thanks 

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Nov 27 22:59:57 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 14:59:57 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
	Som	ething
In-Reply-To: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318805CED83B@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>
Message-ID: <41A9E7EC.13652.635CC48@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 25 Nov 2004 at 8:50, Roz Clarke wrote:

> Anything that's spelt differently is no problem for text translation, only
> aural translation. So I don't think those *would* work! 
> 
> Right (correct) and right (hand) and free (at liberty) and free (gratuit)
> are the only ones I can think of just now.
> 

Take a look at the number of meanings for the words "set" and "run" in any 
good dictionary :-)

As an aside, most difficult words to translate:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3830521.stm

(I'm coming in on this a bit late. I've just spent the last week sailing 
from the Whitsundays in Australia to PNG and I'm just catching up on a 
weeks worth of email.   A great experience. My first time to sail a square 
rigger - a  53ft brigantine.)





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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sat Nov 27 23:06:39 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 21:06:39 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] code problem
In-Reply-To: <000301c4d506$b9593d90$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <001601c4d508$0dff0d10$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

Thanks John,
	You have a family. What are you doing here on a Sat Night? ; )

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 8:57 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] code problem

>    strMsg = "'"& NewData &"'" is not in the list. "

Use:

    strMsg = "'" & NewData & "'" & " is not in the list. "


John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 11:41 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] code problem


I am copying and will attribute the following code from KG et al ADH

 

Private Sub cboEmpName_NotInList(newdata As String, Response As Integer)

Dim strMsg As String

Dim rst As Recordset

Dim db As Database

 

 

    strMsg = "'"& NewData &"'" is not in the list. "

    strMsg = strMsg & "Would you like to add them?"

 

Does any one know why the first strMsg line is evaluating to to red ?

 

Thanks 

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Nov 27 23:14:23 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 00:14:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] code problem
In-Reply-To: <001601c4d508$0dff0d10$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <000401c4d509$22d31fa0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Shopping for a laptop for my wife.  8~)

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 12:07 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] code problem


Thanks John,
	You have a family. What are you doing here on a Sat Night? ; )

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 8:57 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] code problem

>    strMsg = "'"& NewData &"'" is not in the list. "

Use:

    strMsg = "'" & NewData & "'" & " is not in the list. "


John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 11:41 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] code problem


I am copying and will attribute the following code from KG et al ADH

 

Private Sub cboEmpName_NotInList(newdata As String, Response As Integer)

Dim strMsg As String

Dim rst As Recordset

Dim db As Database

 

 

    strMsg = "'"& NewData &"'" is not in the list. "

    strMsg = strMsg & "Would you like to add them?"

 

Does any one know why the first strMsg line is evaluating to to red ?

 

Thanks 

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sat Nov 27 23:27:20 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 21:27:20 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Some more Sat night code help please.
Message-ID: <001801c4d50a$f2364a50$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

 

Private Sub cmdEmpDetails_Click()

    ' Comments  : Open Employee form mased on cboEmpName

    ' Parameters:  -

    ' Modified  :

    

    '

    ' --------------------------------------------------

    On Error GoTo Err_cmdEmpDatails_Click

    

       Dim strStDocName As String

       Dim strStLinkCriteria As String

       Dim lngRetval As Long

       Dim frmCurrentForm As Form

        

There is a combo box with a button to open another form on this form.

 

The combo box value is null when this form opens. If the user clicks the
button I want to open the message box and say try again.

The message box code is not fireing. 

 

Would someone see what is not working here?

 

 

 

    If Me.cboEmpName.Value = " " Then       'If combobox value is null open
message box

        lngRetval = MsgBox( _

        "Please pitck an employee from the list or click on the close
buttob", _

        vbOKOnly + vbCritical + vbSystemModal + vbDefaultButton1, _

        "Please pick Employee")

        Select Case lngRetval

        Case vbOK

     

        Set frmCurrentForm = Screen.ActiveForm ' Keep selection box form as
active form        

    End Select

        Else

    

     

    strStDocName = "Employee"

    

    strStLinkCriteria = "[EmpID]=" & "'" & Me![cboEmpName] & "'"

    DoCmd.OpenForm strStDocName, , , strStLinkCriteria

  End If

Exit_cmdEmpDatails_Click:

    Exit Sub

    

Err_cmdEmpDatails_Click:

    MsgBox Err.Description

    Resume Exit_cmdEmpDatails_Click

    

End Sub

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 



From itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net  Sat Nov 27 23:41:52 2004
From: itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net (Jeremy Toves)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 21:41:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Some more Sat night code help please.
In-Reply-To: <001801c4d50a$f2364a50$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <20041128054152.64502.qmail@web81504.mail.yahoo.com>

A space is not null.    If Me.cboEmpName.Value = " " Then       
 
Try this.    If IsNull(Me.cboEmpName.Value) Then
 
 
 
 


Joe Hecht <jmhla at earthlink.net> wrote:


Private Sub cmdEmpDetails_Click()

' Comments : Open Employee form mased on cboEmpName

' Parameters: -

' Modified :



'

' --------------------------------------------------

On Error GoTo Err_cmdEmpDatails_Click



Dim strStDocName As String

Dim strStLinkCriteria As String

Dim lngRetval As Long

Dim frmCurrentForm As Form



There is a combo box with a button to open another form on this form.



The combo box value is null when this form opens. If the user clicks the
button I want to open the message box and say try again.

The message box code is not fireing. 



Would someone see what is not working here?







If Me.cboEmpName.Value = " " Then 'If combobox value is null open
message box

lngRetval = MsgBox( _

"Please pitck an employee from the list or click on the close
buttob", _

vbOKOnly + vbCritical + vbSystemModal + vbDefaultButton1, _

"Please pick Employee")

Select Case lngRetval

Case vbOK



Set frmCurrentForm = Screen.ActiveForm ' Keep selection box form as
active form 

End Select

Else





strStDocName = "Employee"



strStLinkCriteria = "[EmpID]=" & "'" & Me![cboEmpName] & "'"

DoCmd.OpenForm strStDocName, , , strStLinkCriteria

End If

Exit_cmdEmpDatails_Click:

Exit Sub



Err_cmdEmpDatails_Click:

MsgBox Err.Description

Resume Exit_cmdEmpDatails_Click



End Sub



JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net



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From Itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net  Sat Nov 27 23:43:54 2004
From: Itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net (Jeremy Toves)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 23:43:54 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Some more Sat night code help please.
In-Reply-To: <001801c4d50a$f2364a50$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <KEEPKFMIOILBMMDILFPNKEJFCHAA.Itsame2000@sbcglobal.net>

You are looking for a space and not a null.  They aren't the same thing.   
	
	If Me.cboEmpName.Value = " " Then 

Try this.
	
	If IsNull(Me.cboEmpName.Value) Then

Thanks,
Jeremy


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 11:27 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Some more Sat night code help please.


 

Private Sub cmdEmpDetails_Click()

    ' Comments  : Open Employee form mased on cboEmpName

    ' Parameters:  -

    ' Modified  :

    

    '

    ' --------------------------------------------------

    On Error GoTo Err_cmdEmpDatails_Click

    

       Dim strStDocName As String

       Dim strStLinkCriteria As String

       Dim lngRetval As Long

       Dim frmCurrentForm As Form

        

There is a combo box with a button to open another form on this form.

 

The combo box value is null when this form opens. If the user clicks the
button I want to open the message box and say try again.

The message box code is not fireing. 

 

Would someone see what is not working here?

 

 

 

    If Me.cboEmpName.Value = " " Then       'If combobox value is null open
message box

        lngRetval = MsgBox( _

        "Please pitck an employee from the list or click on the close
buttob", _

        vbOKOnly + vbCritical + vbSystemModal + vbDefaultButton1, _

        "Please pick Employee")

        Select Case lngRetval

        Case vbOK

     

        Set frmCurrentForm = Screen.ActiveForm ' Keep selection box form as
active form        

    End Select

        Else

    

     

    strStDocName = "Employee"

    

    strStLinkCriteria = "[EmpID]=" & "'" & Me![cboEmpName] & "'"

    DoCmd.OpenForm strStDocName, , , strStLinkCriteria

  End If

Exit_cmdEmpDatails_Click:

    Exit Sub

    

Err_cmdEmpDatails_Click:

    MsgBox Err.Description

    Resume Exit_cmdEmpDatails_Click

    

End Sub

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 

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From itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net  Sat Nov 27 23:47:49 2004
From: itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net (Jeremy Toves)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 21:47:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Some more Sat night code help please.
In-Reply-To: <20041128054152.64502.qmail@web81504.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20041128054749.23698.qmail@web81502.mail.yahoo.com>

Sorry about the duplicate email.  I didn't realize the first email left my outbox.



Jeremy Toves <itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
A space is not null. If Me.cboEmpName.Value = " " Then 

Try this. If IsNull(Me.cboEmpName.Value) Then






Joe Hecht wrote:


Private Sub cmdEmpDetails_Click()

' Comments : Open Employee form mased on cboEmpName

' Parameters: -

' Modified :



'

' --------------------------------------------------

On Error GoTo Err_cmdEmpDatails_Click



Dim strStDocName As String

Dim strStLinkCriteria As String

Dim lngRetval As Long

Dim frmCurrentForm As Form



There is a combo box with a button to open another form on this form.



The combo box value is null when this form opens. If the user clicks the
button I want to open the message box and say try again.

The message box code is not fireing. 



Would someone see what is not working here?







If Me.cboEmpName.Value = " " Then 'If combobox value is null open
message box

lngRetval = MsgBox( _

"Please pitck an employee from the list or click on the close
buttob", _

vbOKOnly + vbCritical + vbSystemModal + vbDefaultButton1, _

"Please pick Employee")

Select Case lngRetval

Case vbOK



Set frmCurrentForm = Screen.ActiveForm ' Keep selection box form as
active form 

End Select

Else





strStDocName = "Employee"



strStLinkCriteria = "[EmpID]=" & "'" & Me![cboEmpName] & "'"

DoCmd.OpenForm strStDocName, , , strStLinkCriteria

End If

Exit_cmdEmpDatails_Click:

Exit Sub



Err_cmdEmpDatails_Click:

MsgBox Err.Description

Resume Exit_cmdEmpDatails_Click



End Sub



JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sat Nov 27 23:52:19 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 21:52:19 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Some more Sat night code help please.
In-Reply-To: <KEEPKFMIOILBMMDILFPNKEJFCHAA.Itsame2000@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <002101c4d50e$6febf690$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

Thanks Jeremy, that was it.

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Toves
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 9:44 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Some more Sat night code help please.

You are looking for a space and not a null.  They aren't the same thing.   
	
	If Me.cboEmpName.Value = " " Then 

Try this.
	
	If IsNull(Me.cboEmpName.Value) Then

Thanks,
Jeremy


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 11:27 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Some more Sat night code help please.


 

Private Sub cmdEmpDetails_Click()

    ' Comments  : Open Employee form mased on cboEmpName

    ' Parameters:  -

    ' Modified  :

    

    '

    ' --------------------------------------------------

    On Error GoTo Err_cmdEmpDatails_Click

    

       Dim strStDocName As String

       Dim strStLinkCriteria As String

       Dim lngRetval As Long

       Dim frmCurrentForm As Form

        

There is a combo box with a button to open another form on this form.

 

The combo box value is null when this form opens. If the user clicks the
button I want to open the message box and say try again.

The message box code is not fireing. 

 

Would someone see what is not working here?

 

 

 

    If Me.cboEmpName.Value = " " Then       'If combobox value is null open
message box

        lngRetval = MsgBox( _

        "Please pitck an employee from the list or click on the close
buttob", _

        vbOKOnly + vbCritical + vbSystemModal + vbDefaultButton1, _

        "Please pick Employee")

        Select Case lngRetval

        Case vbOK

     

        Set frmCurrentForm = Screen.ActiveForm ' Keep selection box form as
active form        

    End Select

        Else

    

     

    strStDocName = "Employee"

    

    strStLinkCriteria = "[EmpID]=" & "'" & Me![cboEmpName] & "'"

    DoCmd.OpenForm strStDocName, , , strStLinkCriteria

  End If

Exit_cmdEmpDatails_Click:

    Exit Sub

    

Err_cmdEmpDatails_Click:

    MsgBox Err.Description

    Resume Exit_cmdEmpDatails_Click

    

End Sub

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 

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From itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net  Sat Nov 27 23:59:05 2004
From: itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net (Jeremy Toves)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 21:59:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Some more Sat night code help please.
In-Reply-To: <002101c4d50e$6febf690$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <20041128055905.36313.qmail@web81508.mail.yahoo.com>

No problem.  I'm glad I could help.    
 


Joe Hecht <jmhla at earthlink.net> wrote:
Thanks Jeremy, that was it.

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
jmhla at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Toves
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 9:44 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Some more Sat night code help please.

You are looking for a space and not a null. They aren't the same thing. 

If Me.cboEmpName.Value = " " Then 

Try this.

If IsNull(Me.cboEmpName.Value) Then

Thanks,
Jeremy


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 11:27 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Some more Sat night code help please.




Private Sub cmdEmpDetails_Click()

' Comments : Open Employee form mased on cboEmpName

' Parameters: -

' Modified :



'

' --------------------------------------------------

On Error GoTo Err_cmdEmpDatails_Click



Dim strStDocName As String

Dim strStLinkCriteria As String

Dim lngRetval As Long

Dim frmCurrentForm As Form



There is a combo box with a button to open another form on this form.



The combo box value is null when this form opens. If the user clicks the
button I want to open the message box and say try again.

The message box code is not fireing. 



Would someone see what is not working here?







If Me.cboEmpName.Value = " " Then 'If combobox value is null open
message box

lngRetval = MsgBox( _

"Please pitck an employee from the list or click on the close
buttob", _

vbOKOnly + vbCritical + vbSystemModal + vbDefaultButton1, _

"Please pick Employee")

Select Case lngRetval

Case vbOK



Set frmCurrentForm = Screen.ActiveForm ' Keep selection box form as
active form 

End Select

Else





strStDocName = "Employee"



strStLinkCriteria = "[EmpID]=" & "'" & Me![cboEmpName] & "'"

DoCmd.OpenForm strStDocName, , , strStLinkCriteria

End If

Exit_cmdEmpDatails_Click:

Exit Sub



Err_cmdEmpDatails_Click:

MsgBox Err.Description

Resume Exit_cmdEmpDatails_Click



End Sub



JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sun Nov 28 00:01:06 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 22:01:06 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Some more Sat night code help please.
In-Reply-To: <20041128054749.23698.qmail@web81502.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002201c4d50f$a9eddba0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

I wish that was my biggest problem. No worries.

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Toves
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 9:48 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Some more Sat night code help please.

Sorry about the duplicate email.  I didn't realize the first email left my
outbox.



Jeremy Toves <itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
A space is not null. If Me.cboEmpName.Value = " " Then 

Try this. If IsNull(Me.cboEmpName.Value) Then






Joe Hecht wrote:


Private Sub cmdEmpDetails_Click()

' Comments : Open Employee form mased on cboEmpName

' Parameters: -

' Modified :



'

' --------------------------------------------------

On Error GoTo Err_cmdEmpDatails_Click



Dim strStDocName As String

Dim strStLinkCriteria As String

Dim lngRetval As Long

Dim frmCurrentForm As Form



There is a combo box with a button to open another form on this form.



The combo box value is null when this form opens. If the user clicks the
button I want to open the message box and say try again.

The message box code is not fireing. 



Would someone see what is not working here?







If Me.cboEmpName.Value = " " Then 'If combobox value is null open
message box

lngRetval = MsgBox( _

"Please pitck an employee from the list or click on the close
buttob", _

vbOKOnly + vbCritical + vbSystemModal + vbDefaultButton1, _

"Please pick Employee")

Select Case lngRetval

Case vbOK



Set frmCurrentForm = Screen.ActiveForm ' Keep selection box form as
active form 

End Select

Else





strStDocName = "Employee"



strStLinkCriteria = "[EmpID]=" & "'" & Me![cboEmpName] & "'"

DoCmd.OpenForm strStDocName, , , strStLinkCriteria

End If

Exit_cmdEmpDatails_Click:

Exit Sub



Err_cmdEmpDatails_Click:

MsgBox Err.Description

Resume Exit_cmdEmpDatails_Click



End Sub



JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net



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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Sun Nov 28 08:54:44 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 14:54:44 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Selecting Languages - English or Spanish
	orSom	ething
In-Reply-To: <41A9E7EC.13652.635CC48@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <000701c4d55a$33f629c0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Wow sounds fantastic Stuart. My son was in the Whitsundays a month or so
back. Said how beautiful it was.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Stuart McLachlan
> Sent: 28 November 2004 05:00
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: Selecting Languages - English or 
> Spanish orSom ething
> 
> 
> On 25 Nov 2004 at 8:50, Roz Clarke wrote:
> 
> > Anything that's spelt differently is no problem for text 
> translation, 
> > only aural translation. So I don't think those *would* work!
> > 
> > Right (correct) and right (hand) and free (at liberty) and free 
> > (gratuit) are the only ones I can think of just now.
> > 
> 
> Take a look at the number of meanings for the words "set" and 
> "run" in any 
> good dictionary :-)
> 
> As an aside, most difficult words to translate: 
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3830521.stm
> 
> (I'm coming in on this a bit late. I've just spent the last 
> week sailing 
> from the Whitsundays in Australia to PNG and I'm just 
> catching up on a 
> weeks worth of email.   A great experience. My first time to 
> sail a square 
> rigger - a  53ft brigantine.)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Nov 28 09:55:42 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 07:55:42 -0800
Subject: OT [AccessD] Re: Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or	Something
In-Reply-To: <41A9E7EC.13652.635CC48@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIOELBCIAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Sounds awesome Stuart.

Probably the most difficult word in the English language to translate is the
word 'set'. This word has literally dozens of meanings. In one encyclopedia,
the number of means attributed to this simple word fills 8 pages.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 9:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: Selecting Languages - English or Spanish or
Something


On 25 Nov 2004 at 8:50, Roz Clarke wrote:

> Anything that's spelt differently is no problem for text translation, only
> aural translation. So I don't think those *would* work!
>
> Right (correct) and right (hand) and free (at liberty) and free (gratuit)
> are the only ones I can think of just now.
>

Take a look at the number of meanings for the words "set" and "run" in any
good dictionary :-)

As an aside, most difficult words to translate:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3830521.stm

(I'm coming in on this a bit late. I've just spent the last week sailing
from the Whitsundays in Australia to PNG and I'm just catching up on a
weeks worth of email.   A great experience. My first time to sail a square
rigger - a  53ft brigantine.)





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From artful at rogers.com  Sun Nov 28 12:29:50 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 13:29:50 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] code problem
In-Reply-To: <000701c4d504$675844c0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
References: <000701c4d504$675844c0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <41AA191E.1040309@rogers.com>

Here is a function that might prove more useful. It is mostly compatible 
but has the advantage that you can use it everywhere, rather than tying 
it to one specific combo-box. It lets you specify the form to pop up, in 
case the add-to-list is complext (i.e. needs several required fields).

<code>
Public Function aaNotInList _
    ( _
    NewData As String, _
    Response As Integer, _
    strForm As String, _
    strTerm As String _
    )
'This function works just like the standard NotInList Sub,
'but adds two new parameters so you can specify the name of the
'form to pop up, and the generic name of the object (i.e., customer, 
agent, etc.)
'Note: this function requires the IsLoaded function, for which there are 
many sources.
   
    Dim mbrResponse As VbMsgBoxResult
    Dim strMsg As String
   
    strMsg = NewData & _
     " is not on file. " & _
     "Add a new " & strTerm & "?"
    mbrResponse = MsgBox(strMsg, _
     vbYesNo + vbQuestion, "Unknown " & strTerm)
    Select Case mbrResponse
        Case vbYes
            DoCmd.OpenForm strForm, _
                    DataMode:=acFormAdd, _
                    WIndowMode:=acDialog, _
                    OpenArgs:=NewData
           
            ' Stop here and wait until the form
            ' goes away.
            If IsLoaded(strForm) Then
                Response = acDataErrAdded
                Debug.Print "Closing " & strForm
                DoCmd.Close acForm, strForm
            Else
                Response = acDataErrContinue
            End If
        Case vbNo
            Response = acDataErrContinue
    End Select
End Function
</code>

Arthur

Joe Hecht wrote:

>I am copying and will attribute the following code from KG et al ADH
>
> 
>
>Private Sub cboEmpName_NotInList(newdata As String, Response As Integer)
>
>Dim strMsg As String
>
>Dim rst As Recordset
>
>Dim db As Database
>
> 
>
> 
>
>    strMsg = "'"& NewData &"'" is not in the list. "
>
>    strMsg = strMsg & "Would you like to add them?"
>
> 
>
>Does any one know why the first strMsg line is evaluating to to red ?
>
> 
>
>Thanks 
>
> 
>
>JOE HECHT
>
>LOS ANGELES CA 
>
>jmhla at earthlink.net
>
> 
>
>  
>


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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sun Nov 28 18:23:45 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 16:23:45 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] access data to word forms
Message-ID: <000001c4d5a9$b33e2440$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

I am building an application at home that will go to the client's server and
two or three workstations. 

 

I am passing some data from Access to Word. The way I know how to do this,
through Words data merge wizard hard codes the path as I understand things. 

 

Is there a way to have the path change to the server when I install this or
will I need to rebuild the links?

 

Thanks

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 



From tom at rbbs.net.au  Sun Nov 28 21:45:05 2004
From: tom at rbbs.net.au (Tom Keatley)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:45:05 +0800
Subject: [AccessD] Divide A Table into 4 equal parts and append to a second
	table
References: <000001c4d5a9$b33e2440$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <005701c4d5c5$d46c08a0$0300a8c0@TomDownload>

Hi all...
I have built a function that seems to achieve my aims although I feel it
looks a little clunky...

Its purpose is to reduce the data of 4 records in a table (NUMBERS) to a
single record in another table (Table4up) with a view to using that data on
a report 4 up.

Can anyone suggest a better/more efficient way to achieve my aims? The code
as is will not handle less than 9 records and I realise its not finished as
there is no error checking or setting variables to NOTHING but wanted to get
the groups feeling about the efficiency. This code will form the heart of a
new project I am working on and I want it to be the best way possible to do
it.....

Function REnder4UPnew()
Dim Db As Database, Rs As Recordset
Dim RsAdd As Recordset
Dim Nos As String
Dim NoRecs As Long
Dim FourUp As String
Dim Counter As Integer
Dim DElQry As String
Dim ModNo As Integer

DElQry = "DELETE Table4UP.* FROM Table4UP;"
DoCmd.RunSQL DElQry

Nos = "SELECT NUMBERS.* FROM NUMBERS ORDER BY NUMBERS.IDNO;"
FourUp = "SELECT Table4UP.* FROM Table4UP;"

Set Db = CurrentDb
Set Rs = Db.OpenRecordset(Nos)
Set RsAdd = Db.OpenRecordset(FourUp)


With Rs
    .MoveFirst
    .MoveLast
NoRecs = .RecordCount

ModNo = NoRecs Mod 4

Select Case ModNo
Case 0
    NoRecs = Int(.RecordCount / 4)
Case 1
    NoRecs = Int(.RecordCount / 4) + 1
Case 2
    NoRecs = Int(.RecordCount / 4) + 1
Case 3
    NoRecs = Int(.RecordCount / 4) + 1
End Select

Counter = 0

....MoveFirst

While Not .EOF Or .BOF
Counter = Counter + 1

Select Case Counter
Case 1 To NoRecs
        RsAdd.AddNew
        RsAdd!sequence = Counter
        RsAdd!Pos1 = ![idno]
        RsAdd.Update

Case (NoRecs + 1) To (NoRecs * 2)
    If Counter = (NoRecs + 1) Then
        RsAdd.MoveFirst
        RsAdd.Edit
        RsAdd!Pos2 = ![idno]
        RsAdd.Update
        RsAdd.MoveNext
    Else
        RsAdd.Edit
        RsAdd!Pos2 = ![idno]
        RsAdd.Update
        RsAdd.MoveNext
    End If

Case ((NoRecs * 2) + 1) To (NoRecs * 3)
    If Counter = ((NoRecs * 2) + 1) Then
        RsAdd.MoveFirst
        RsAdd.Edit
        RsAdd!Pos3 = ![idno]
        RsAdd.Update
        RsAdd.MoveNext
    Else
        RsAdd.Edit
        RsAdd!Pos3 = ![idno]
        RsAdd.Update
        RsAdd.MoveNext
    End If

Case ((NoRecs * 3) + 1) To (NoRecs * 4)
    If Counter = ((NoRecs * 3) + 1) Then
        RsAdd.MoveFirst
        RsAdd.Edit
        RsAdd!Pos4 = ![idno]
        RsAdd.Update
        RsAdd.MoveNext
    Else
        RsAdd.Edit
        RsAdd!Pos4 = ![idno]
        RsAdd.Update
        RsAdd.MoveNext

    End If
End Select

....MoveNext
Wend
End With
Select Case ModNo
Case 1
        RsAdd.Edit
        RsAdd!Pos4 = 9997
        RsAdd.Update
        RsAdd.MoveNext
        RsAdd.Edit
        RsAdd!Pos4 = 9998
        RsAdd.Update
        RsAdd.MoveNext
        RsAdd.Edit
        RsAdd!Pos4 = 9999
        RsAdd.Update

 Case 2
         RsAdd.Edit
        RsAdd!Pos4 = 9997
        RsAdd.Update
        RsAdd.MoveNext
        RsAdd.Edit
        RsAdd!Pos4 = 9998
        RsAdd.Update

 Case 3
         RsAdd.Edit
        RsAdd!Pos4 = 9997
        RsAdd.Update
 End Select



End Function

Thanks In Anticipation

Tom Keatley



From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Mon Nov 29 02:04:40 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:04:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Search for linked documents....IN TABLES....
In-Reply-To: <20041124141534.33810.qmail@web61105.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20041129080440.63373.qmail@web61106.mail.yahoo.com>

absolutely knowbody any idea??
I'm really stuck on this one!!

thnx in advance.
 
Regards,
 
SD

S D <accessd667 at yahoo.com> wrote:
Can anybody please help me with this one?
Tips/links/articles any thing will do!!

Regrds,
sd

S D wrote:
Hi group,

it seemed that the users where not talking about linked tables but about linked documents in a table!

So I've got a table, this table has an oledb field in it. I found out how to search for this.
However, I now need to figure out how I can do the following:
1 - check if file is linked
2 - what type of file is linked (Word, Excel, etc)
3 - what is the version of the matching officeprogram (eg Word 97, Excell 2002)
4 - what is the location of the file
5 - what are the create, last modified, last opened date

Did anybody ever do something like this?
Does anybody know if there is some sort of object model that I can use for this eg like in Excell: Application => Workbook => worksheet, etc? 
Does anybody know to any tips on how to figure this out?! 

Thnx in advance!

Sander


S D wrote:
Have fun....haha..ha...hmmm I think we've got different ideas about fun 
Thnx for the, once again, great response.

Sander

Gustav Brock wrote:
Hi Sander

This is doable but not straight forward.

First, linked "documents" are treated as ISAM databases and tables. For
text and xBase and Paradox files, the directory is the "database" while
for Excel and Html the file is the database. Linked MAPI tables are even
more excotic so I will leave them for this. Linked ODBC tables are
complete different as they are identified by their connect strings.

Second, tables may be linked with other names than their true names.

This a query which will return all non-deleted links:

SELECT DISTINCT 
RTrim([Database]) AS DbsPath, 
MSysObjects.Connect, 
Hex(GetTableType([Flags])) AS TableType, 
MSysObjects.ForeignName, 
GetTrueForeignName(GetTableType([Flags]),[ForeignName]) AS
TrueForeignName, 
MSysObjects.Name AS LinkedName
FROM 
MSysObjects
WHERE 
(IsTablePresent([Flags])=True) 
AND 
(MSysObjects.Type=4 Or MSysObjects.Type=6);

It uses these supporting functions:



Declarations.

' Table types known.
'
' ODBC connection.
Private Const clngTableTypeNone As Long = &H0
' Note: MS MSDE/SQL Server has some higher bits set as well.
Private Const clngTableTypeOdbc As Long = &H100000
' Jet file attached by UNC name.
Private Const clngTableTypeJetUnc As Long = &H200000
' Jet file attached by mapped drive letter.
Private Const clngTableTypeJetDrive As Long = &H400000
Private Const clngTableTypeParadox As Long = &H700000
Private Const clngTableTypeDbase As Long = &H800000
Private Const clngTableTypeText As Long = &HA00000
Private Const clngTableTypeExcel As Long = &HB00000
Private Const clngTableTypeOutlook As Long = &HD00000
Private Const clngTableTypeHtml As Long = &HE00000

Public Function GetTrueForeignName( _
ByVal lngTableType As Long, _
ByVal strForeignName As String) _
As String

' Returns true foreign name for those ISAM table types
' where this is stored as an alias.
' Foreign names for other table types are not altered.
'
' Example Excel:
' Alias for worksheet: Sheet1$
' True name: Sheet1
' Example Paradox:
' Alias for table name: Pdoxfile#db
' True name: Pdoxfile.db
'
' 2004-05-10. Cactus Data ApS, CPH.

Const cstrSepDbase As String = "#"
Const cstrSepParadox As String = "#"
Const cstrSepText As String = "#"
Const cstrSepExcel As String = "$"
Const cstrRplExcel As String = vbNullString

Dim strTrueName As String
Dim lngPos As Long

Select Case lngTableType
Case clngTableTypeParadox
lngPos = InStr(strForeignName, cstrSepParadox)
If lngPos > 1 Then
strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, lngPos - 1)
Else
strTrueName = strForeignName
End If
Case clngTableTypeDbase
lngPos = InStr(strForeignName, cstrSepDbase)
If lngPos > 1 Then
strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, lngPos - 1)
Else
strTrueName = strForeignName
End If
Case clngTableTypeExcel
If Right(strForeignName, 1) = cstrSepExcel Then
' Worksheet. Strip traling "$".
strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, Len(strForeignName) - 1)
Else
' Named Range. Leave as is.
strTrueName = strForeignName
End If
Case clngTableTypeText
lngPos = InStr(strForeignName, cstrSepText)
If lngPos > 1 Then
strTrueName = Left(strForeignName, lngPos - 1)
Else
strTrueName = strForeignName
End If
Case Else
strTrueName = strForeignName
End Select

GetTrueForeignName = strTrueName

End Function

Public Function IsTablePresent( _
ByVal lngFlag As Long) _
As Boolean

' Returns True if a table is not flagged as deleted in MSysObjects.
' To be used in a query to extract currently attached tables.
'
' 2004-04-21. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.

Const clngFlagDeleted As Long = &H1001

Dim booDeleted As Boolean

booDeleted = lngFlag And clngFlagDeleted

IsTablePresent = Not booDeleted

End Function

Public Function GetTableType( _
ByVal lngFlag As Long) _
As Long

' Returns the table type from lngFlag in MSysObjects by rounding it to
' &H100000 which strips all minor flags including the hidden flag
(&H8)
' and all major flags - like &H20xxxxxx used by MS MSDE/SQL Server.
' To be used in a query to extract currently attached tables of a
specific type.
'
' 2004-04-21. Cactus Data ApS. CPH.

' Flag mask.
' Const clngFlagMajor As Long = &HFF000000
' Const clngFlagMinor As Long = &HFFFFF
Const clngFlagMask As Long = &HFF0FFFFF

Dim lngType As Long

lngType = lngFlag And Not clngFlagMask

GetTableType = lngType

End Function



Have fun!

/gustav

>>> accessd667 at yahoo.com 19-11-2004 14:57:55 >>>
Hi group,

I've got some code from the ADHB2K to search for linked tables.
However, it is also possible to link documents...office documents that
is. So I mean files with extions like:
.xls;
.txt;
etc

Q1: how can I search for these linked 'documents'?
Q2: how can I pinpoint the xls files from none xls files?

TIA

Sander

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Nov 29 03:25:44 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:25:44 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Divide A Table into 4 equal parts and append to
	a secondtable
Message-ID: <s1aaf945.080@cactus.dk>

Hi Tom

I guess you could pick every fourth record as base ID for a selection
and create subselects to collect data from four records along these
lines:

<SQL>

  SELECT DISTINCT 
    ID\4 AS ID4, 
      (Select 
        T.FieldSome 
      From 
        tblYourTable As T 
      Where 
        T.ID\4 = tblYourTable.ID\4 
        And 
        T.ID Mod 4 = 0) AS 
    A, 
      (Select 
        T.FieldSome 
      From 
        tblYourTable As T 
      Where 
        T.ID\4 = tblYourTable.ID\4 
        And 
        T.ID Mod 4 = 1) AS 
    B, 
      (Select 
        T.FieldSome 
      From 
        tblYourTable As T 
      Where 
        T.ID\4 = tblYourTable.ID\4 
        And 
        T.ID Mod 4 = 2) AS 
    C, 
      (Select 
        T.FieldSome 
      From 
        tblYourTable As T 
      Where 
        T.ID\4 = tblYourTable.ID\4 
        And 
        T.ID Mod 4 = 3) AS 
    D
  FROM 
    tblYourTable;

</SQL>

This assumes that your IDs are truly sequential (no "holes"). If this
is not the case, things get a little more complicated.
Also, first ID should be 0. If not, you will need to move around the
sequence of A to D and their modulos - from 0,1,2,3 to 1,2,3,0 if the
first ID is 1.

/gustav


From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Mon Nov 29 05:49:17 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:49:17 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Not all queries present when mailmerge from word.
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5596@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Hi
 
Since Access version 2000 I notice that not all queries are visible in
the merge window.
Apparently all queries that are based on more then one table or have
somewhat complex structure are missing.
 
Why is this, and how can I see the afterall....
 
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Nov 29 06:01:53 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:01:53 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Execute and transaction
Message-ID: <s1ab1dcc.083@cactus.dk>

Hi all

If you use the Execute method to run action queries, pay attention to
this from the on-line help:

<snip>

In earlier versions of the Microsoft Jet Database Engine, SQL
statements were automatically embedded in implicit transactions. If part
of a statement executed with dbFailOnError failed, the entire statement
would be rolled back. To improve performance, these implicit
transactions were removed starting with version 3.5. If you are updating
older DAO code, be sure to consider using explicit transactions around
Execute statements.

For best performance in a Microsoft Jet workspace, especially in a
multiuser environment, nest the Execute method inside a transaction. Use
the BeginTrans method on the current Workspace object, then use the
Execute method, and complete the transaction by using the CommitTrans
method on the Workspace. This saves changes on disk and frees any locks
placed while the query is running.

</snip>

I just had to debug a case where an extremely simple update query (one
table, less than 2000 records, updating an indexed field) during testing
ran "just like that" while run from code took more than one minute.
Wrapping it in a transaction cut the duration to one second:

<code snip>

    wks.BeginTrans
      qdf.Execute dbFailOnError
      qdf.Close
    wks.CommitTrans

</code snip>

/gustav


From GregSmith at starband.net  Mon Nov 29 08:03:12 2004
From: GregSmith at starband.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 08:03:12 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Macro Security in Runtime 'issue'...
In-Reply-To: <001501c4d506$1368c590$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
References: <41A25CA4.806@shaw.ca> <001501c4d506$1368c590$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <1091.65.118.249.206.1101736992.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>

Joe:

Yes, it would.  However, I'm not the one installing this program on
customer's computers...our salespeople are (not Access savy, if you catch
my drift...) and I'm not going to try and explain it to them.  I don't
have that much time left on Earth...;)

But, if it does the runtime install, nobody has access to that part of
Acess, so they can't be changed anyway.

I haven't tried Marty's suggestions yet...his email is on my home computer
which uses Starband (no choice...) for my internet...and this weekend one
of their satellites (the one I use) went dark.  There are a whole bunch of
us without internet access (I'm at work right now..).  Starband says it
cannot be repaired (the satellite is 22,500 miles out...too far for a
stepladder...) and will have to do something else.

So please bear with me if I don't always respond right away.

Thanks!

Greg Smith
gregsmith at starband.net

> Would turning off warnings in tools options help on this?
>
> JOE HECHT
> LOS ANGELES CA
>  jmhla at earthlink.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 1:40 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003 Macro Security in Runtime "issue"...
>
>
> Get their network guy to change the following registry settings of the
> following key, should help you change the security level of the macro in
>  Access 2003. He should be able to change this globally across the
> network for each client PC, there is even a way to do this from Access
.
.
.





From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Mon Nov 29 08:44:22 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:44:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] ExportXML fails calulated where in acc2003?
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74486BA0@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Eric,

I did a quick test of a little sample db and had the same result trying to match a category name using LIKE,  BUT I noticed that if I change the query to use the Category ID rather than LIKE on the name column I returned results in the XML file.  

FWIW

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Eric Goetz
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 9:05 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] ExportXML fails calulated where in acc2003?


Hi,

I thought I'd incorporate a little XML in transferring data from an
Access 2003 mdb to an Excel spreadsheet. The Excel XML List looks like a
useful feature. The trouble is, I can't get Access to output the XML.

I'm running Access 2003 as part of a complete install of Office 2003
Enterprise Edition with SP1. I've tried this on two machines: XPProSP1a
and XPProSP2.

I've wasted my day isolating a test case, and here it is...

Test A, make sure you can do a simple export to XML.
1. Take a fresh copy of Northwind.mdb
2. Right click on the query called "Alphabetical List of Products" and
select "Export..."
3. Use the combobox "Save as type:" to select XML.
4. Click "Export"
5. Take the defaults on the subsequent dialogs.
6. Open the ".xml" file that you just created.
7. WOW! You now know how to use XML!

Test B, actually try to use XML to do some work.
1. Open the query "Alphabetical List of Products" in design view.
2. Add criteria to "CatagoryName" of Like "S*", which gives SQL of:
      SELECT Products.*, Categories.CategoryName
      FROM Categories INNER JOIN Products ON 
      Categories.CategoryID = Products.CategoryID
      WHERE (((Categories.CategoryName) Like "S*") AND       
             (Products.Discontinued)=No));
3. Run the query to see that you get the 12 products from the Seafood
category.
4. Save the query.
5. Perform steps 2 through 6 from Test A.
6. I get a nearly empty file. HUH? I thought I knew how to use XML.

How about you?

It seems that just about any calculation in the WHERE clause kills
ExportXML. I've tried it from VBA as well as the manual method employed
above.

Thanks,
 
Eric
 

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From EricGoetz at egisystems.com  Mon Nov 29 10:48:43 2004
From: EricGoetz at egisystems.com (Eric Goetz)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 08:48:43 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ExportXML fails calulated where in acc2003?
Message-ID: <37E09725C7EB7B4F9E1ACA8F24EE55DB203EBB@servera22.doma.ops>

Jim,

Thank you so much for giving this a try.

At least I know I'm not loosing my mind... I think.

I'll take you suggestion and keep experimenting with work-arounds.

Thanks,
 
Eric
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org] 
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 6:44 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] ExportXML fails calulated where in acc2003?

Eric,

I did a quick test of a little sample db and had the same result trying
to match a category name using LIKE,  BUT I noticed that if I change the
query to use the Category ID rather than LIKE on the name column I
returned results in the XML file.  

FWIW

Jim DeMarco


From dw-murphy at cox.net  Mon Nov 29 12:51:34 2004
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:51:34 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Macro Security in Runtime 'issue'...
In-Reply-To: <1091.65.118.249.206.1101736992.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
Message-ID: <001901c4d644$76027810$8500a8c0@murphyf3vdfepi>

Take a look at Helen Feddema's Access Achron site,
http://www.helenfeddema.com/access.htm, article 119 discussess 2003
security.  There was also an article in one of the Access magazines, the
Access Advisor I think, a few months ago on how to deal with 2003 security
issues in designing your application.

Doug

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 6:03 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003 Macro Security in Runtime 'issue'...


Joe:

Yes, it would.  However, I'm not the one installing this program on
customer's computers...our salespeople are (not Access savy, if you catch my
drift...) and I'm not going to try and explain it to them.  I don't have
that much time left on Earth...;)

But, if it does the runtime install, nobody has access to that part of
Acess, so they can't be changed anyway.

I haven't tried Marty's suggestions yet...his email is on my home computer
which uses Starband (no choice...) for my internet...and this weekend one of
their satellites (the one I use) went dark.  There are a whole bunch of us
without internet access (I'm at work right now..).  Starband says it cannot
be repaired (the satellite is 22,500 miles out...too far for a
stepladder...) and will have to do something else.

So please bear with me if I don't always respond right away.

Thanks!

Greg Smith
gregsmith at starband.net

> Would turning off warnings in tools options help on this?
>
> JOE HECHT
> LOS ANGELES CA
>  jmhla at earthlink.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> MartyConnelly
> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 1:40 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003 Macro Security in Runtime "issue"...
>
>
> Get their network guy to change the following registry settings of the 
> following key, should help you change the security level of the macro 
> in  Access 2003. He should be able to change this globally across the 
> network for each client PC, there is even a way to do this from Access
.
.
.



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From EricGoetz at egisystems.com  Mon Nov 29 12:58:20 2004
From: EricGoetz at egisystems.com (Eric Goetz)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:58:20 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ExportXML fails calulated where in acc2003?
Message-ID: <37E09725C7EB7B4F9E1ACA8F24EE55DB203EBF@servera22.doma.ops>

Hi,

And the answer is... ADO ANSI 92 wildcards vs MDB VBA wildcards. 

It turns out that ExportXML uses ADO, which uses ANSI 92 wildcards. My
query uses wildcards that conform to VBA as explained in the Microsoft
Access 2003 help topic: About ANSI SQL query mode (MDB).

I had searched the MS knowledge base for "ExportXML" before posting this
issue to AccessD. I didn't find anything relevant. 

If I would have searched the knowledge base with "Export XML", I would
have found the following article.

823224  Access queries with a wildcard character do not export data to
an XML document

I've learned many things from this experience. I think I will be setting
the "This database" checkbox in the "SQL Server Compatible Syntax (ANSI
92)" section of the "Tables/Queries" tab of the "Tools, Options..."
dialog in Access for any new database work I do. That way the queries I
write will be compatible across ADO, SQL server and the MDB.

Has anyone else been turning on ANSI 92 compatibility for new work done
in 2002-2003 file format MDBs?

I think it will bring me one step closer to SQL Server, which is a good
thing... I think.?

Thanks,
 
Eric
 


From jmhla at earthlink.net  Mon Nov 29 13:10:13 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:10:13 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code
Message-ID: <000c01c4d647$11cb8870$2002a8c0@delllaptop>

  

 

 If Me.JobTitleID Is Null Then                  'If row is blank do nothing

        Else

       Me.cboJob_Title.Value = Me.cboJob_Title.Column(1)            'Display
job title

 

   End If

 

Rowsource =

SELECT [Job Title].JobTitleID, [Job Title].JobTitle

FROM [Job Title]

ORDER BY [Job Title].JobTitle;

    

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 



From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Mon Nov 29 13:23:30 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 14:23:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30A3ED46@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BBA89@ADGSERVER>

I'd write it like:

If not isnull(Me.JobTitleID) Then                     'If row is blank do
nothing
   Me.cboJob_Title.Value = Me.cboJob_Title.Column(1)  'Display job title
   End If

OR

If len("" & Me.JobTitleID)>0 Then                     'If row is blank do
nothing
   Me.cboJob_Title.Value = Me.cboJob_Title.Column(1)  'Display job title
   End If

I would personally probably use the first one myself.

Bobby

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Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 2:10 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code


  

 

 If Me.JobTitleID Is Null Then                  'If row is blank do nothing

        Else

       Me.cboJob_Title.Value = Me.cboJob_Title.Column(1)            'Display
job title

 

   End If

 

Rowsource =

SELECT [Job Title].JobTitleID, [Job Title].JobTitle

FROM [Job Title]

ORDER BY [Job Title].JobTitle;

    

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 

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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Mon Nov 29 13:33:03 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:33:03 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code
In-Reply-To: <000c01c4d647$11cb8870$2002a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <008801c4d64a$3e5f8d70$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Hi Joe

Try:

If Not IsNull(Me.JobTitleID) Then 
   Me.cboJob_Title.Value = Me.cboJob_Title.Column(1)      
End If


-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
> Sent: 29 November 2004 19:10
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code
> 
> 
>   
> 
>  
> 
>  If Me.JobTitleID Is Null Then                  'If row is 
> blank do nothing
> 
>         Else
> 
>        Me.cboJob_Title.Value = Me.cboJob_Title.Column(1)      
>       'Display
> job title
> 
>  
> 
>    End If
> 
>  
> 
> Rowsource =
> 
> SELECT [Job Title].JobTitleID, [Job Title].JobTitle
> 
> FROM [Job Title]
> 
> ORDER BY [Job Title].JobTitle;
> 
>     
> 
>  
> 
> JOE HECHT
> 
> LOS ANGELES CA 
> 
> jmhla at earthlink.net
> 
>  
> 
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Nov 29 13:38:03 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:38:03 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233725C@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

<If Me.JobTitleID Is Null >
I know some jobs are a bore but this is a bit Kafkaesque don't you think? Or
just a freudian slip perhaps?
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhla at earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 1:10 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code


  

 

 If Me.JobTitleID Is Null Then                  'If row is blank do nothing

        Else

       Me.cboJob_Title.Value = Me.cboJob_Title.Column(1)            'Display
job title

 

   End If

 

Rowsource =

SELECT [Job Title].JobTitleID, [Job Title].JobTitle

FROM [Job Title]

ORDER BY [Job Title].JobTitle;

    

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Mon Nov 29 13:38:23 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:38:23 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BBA89@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <000001c4d64b$00d3ac60$2002a8c0@delllaptop>

Thanks Bobby,
Could not remember the proper way to test is not null.

This list take a lot of the pain out of working alone.

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 11:24 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code

I'd write it like:

If not isnull(Me.JobTitleID) Then                     'If row is blank do
nothing
   Me.cboJob_Title.Value = Me.cboJob_Title.Column(1)  'Display job title
   End If

OR

If len("" & Me.JobTitleID)>0 Then                     'If row is blank do
nothing
   Me.cboJob_Title.Value = Me.cboJob_Title.Column(1)  'Display job title
   End If

I would personally probably use the first one myself.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 2:10 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code


  

 

 If Me.JobTitleID Is Null Then                  'If row is blank do nothing

        Else

       Me.cboJob_Title.Value = Me.cboJob_Title.Column(1)            'Display
job title

 

   End If

 

Rowsource =

SELECT [Job Title].JobTitleID, [Job Title].JobTitle

FROM [Job Title]

ORDER BY [Job Title].JobTitle;

    

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Mon Nov 29 13:44:05 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:44:05 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233725C@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c4d64b$cc9f4de0$2002a8c0@delllaptop>

Is better than 
If job.painful = true

Maybe

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 11:38 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code

<If Me.JobTitleID Is Null >
I know some jobs are a bore but this is a bit Kafkaesque don't you think? Or
just a freudian slip perhaps?
Jim Hale






From nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us  Mon Nov 29 13:44:41 2004
From: nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us (Neal Kling)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 14:44:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Looking for TWAIN ocx
Message-ID: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE41114CBC@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>

I'm looking for a simple ocx/activex control/library to capture images from a scanner in Access 2K. There are various available but the one's I've seen seem to be built to take you to the moon and back. I don't need editing, conversion etc. Just capture to the basic file types. Specifically TIF.
 
I'll want to be able to specify path/name, file type, resolution. The whole idea here is that I'm trying to remove a weak link, that being the users saving with the wrong file names.
 
Does anyone have any recommendations?
 
Thanks,
Neal


From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Nov 29 13:48:26 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:48:26 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Macro Security in Runtime 'issue'...
References: <41A25CA4.806@shaw.ca> <001501c4d506$1368c590$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
	<1091.65.118.249.206.1101736992.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
Message-ID: <41AB7D0A.50800@shaw.ca>

Here is a news site and forum on Starband's problem
http://www.abcnewsabsat.com/home.html#ia7
Looks like a full replacement satellite won't be available until Feburary.

Greg Smith wrote:

>Joe:
>
>Yes, it would.  However, I'm not the one installing this program on
>customer's computers...our salespeople are (not Access savy, if you catch
>my drift...) and I'm not going to try and explain it to them.  I don't
>have that much time left on Earth...;)
>
>But, if it does the runtime install, nobody has access to that part of
>Acess, so they can't be changed anyway.
>
>I haven't tried Marty's suggestions yet...his email is on my home computer
>which uses Starband (no choice...) for my internet...and this weekend one
>of their satellites (the one I use) went dark.  There are a whole bunch of
>us without internet access (I'm at work right now..).  Starband says it
>cannot be repaired (the satellite is 22,500 miles out...too far for a
>stepladder...) and will have to do something else.
>
>So please bear with me if I don't always respond right away.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Greg Smith
>gregsmith at starband.net
>
>  
>
>>Would turning off warnings in tools options help on this?
>>
>>JOE HECHT
>>LOS ANGELES CA
>> jmhla at earthlink.net
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
>>Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 1:40 PM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003 Macro Security in Runtime "issue"...
>>
>>
>>Get their network guy to change the following registry settings of the
>>following key, should help you change the security level of the macro in
>> Access 2003. He should be able to change this globally across the
>>network for each client PC, there is even a way to do this from Access
>>    
>>
>.
>.
>.
>
>
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From jmhla at earthlink.net  Mon Nov 29 13:50:45 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:50:45 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code
In-Reply-To: <000a01c4d64b$cc9f4de0$2002a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <001101c4d64c$bac381d0$2002a8c0@delllaptop>

What is  " Kafkaesque"?

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 11:44 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code

Is better than 
If job.painful = true

Maybe

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 11:38 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code

<If Me.JobTitleID Is Null >
I know some jobs are a bore but this is a bit Kafkaesque don't you think? Or
just a freudian slip perhaps?
Jim Hale




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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Mon Nov 29 13:54:49 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 14:54:49 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30A3ED5D@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BBA8D@ADGSERVER>

You're quite welcome Joe.  I know what you mean.  I have gotten a lot of
stuff off of here myself.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 2:38 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code


Thanks Bobby,
Could not remember the proper way to test is not null.

This list take a lot of the pain out of working alone.

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net



From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Nov 29 15:01:26 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:01:26 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337260@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

As in Franz Kakfa of "The Metamorphosis " fame, ie.
"Man is an immense swamp. If he is seized with enthusiasm, the effect in the
general picture is as though somewhere in a corner of this swamp a little
frog had flopped into the green water."

Jim Hale


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhla at earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 1:51 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code


What is  " Kafkaesque"?

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 11:44 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code

Is better than 
If job.painful = true

Maybe

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 11:38 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code

<If Me.JobTitleID Is Null >
I know some jobs are a bore but this is a bit Kafkaesque don't you think? Or
just a freudian slip perhaps?
Jim Hale




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From GregSmith at starband.net  Mon Nov 29 15:32:53 2004
From: GregSmith at starband.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:32:53 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Macro Security in Runtime 'issue'...
In-Reply-To: <41AB7D0A.50800@shaw.ca>
References: <41A25CA4.806@shaw.ca> <001501c4d506$1368c590$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
	<1091.65.118.249.206.1101736992.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
	<41AB7D0A.50800@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <2749.65.118.249.194.1101763973.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>

Marty:

Oh thanks.  Kick me while I'm down.

Looks like ONCE AGAIN I've moved from the 'cutting edge' to the more
visited 'bleeding edge'... sigh.

I've not heard anything from my installers, so who knows where they'll
have to point it next.

Oh heck with it.  I'll just go play Halo 2 with my son on XBox...:) until
they get it fixed.  Now they can take their time...

Greg Smith
gregsmith at starband.net (when available...:P )




> Here is a news site and forum on Starband's problem
> http://www.abcnewsabsat.com/home.html#ia7
> Looks like a full replacement satellite won't be available until
> Feburary.
>
> Greg Smith wrote:
>
>>Joe:
>>
>>Yes, it would.  However, I'm not the one installing this program on
>> customer's computers...our salespeople are (not Access savy, if you
>> catch my drift...) and I'm not going to try and explain it to them.  I
>> don't have that much time left on Earth...;)
>>
>>But, if it does the runtime install, nobody has access to that part of
>> Acess, so they can't be changed anyway.
>>
>>I haven't tried Marty's suggestions yet...his email is on my home
>> computer which uses Starband (no choice...) for my internet...and this
>> weekend one of their satellites (the one I use) went dark.  There are a
>> whole bunch of us without internet access (I'm at work right now..).
>> Starband says it cannot be repaired (the satellite is 22,500 miles
>> out...too far for a stepladder...) and will have to do something else.
>>
>>So please bear with me if I don't always respond right away.
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>Greg Smith
>>gregsmith at starband.net
>>
>>
>>
>>>Would turning off warnings in tools options help on this?
>>>
>>>JOE HECHT
>>>LOS ANGELES CA
>>> jmhla at earthlink.net
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
>>> MartyConnelly Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 1:40 PM
>>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003 Macro Security in Runtime "issue"...
>>>
>>>
>>>Get their network guy to change the following registry settings of the
>>> following key, should help you change the security level of the macro
>>> in
>>> Access 2003. He should be able to change this globally across the
>>>network for each client PC, there is even a way to do this from Access
>>>
>>>
>>.
>>.
>>.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
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> Victoria, B.C.
> Canada
>
>
>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Nov 29 17:58:24 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:58:24 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Looking for TWAIN ocx
In-Reply-To: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE41114CBC@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>
Message-ID: <41AC4440.23525.F6E667D@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 29 Nov 2004 at 14:44, Neal Kling wrote:

> I'm looking for a simple ocx/activex control/library to capture images from
> a scanner in Access 2K. There are various available but the one's I've seen
> seem to be built to take you to the moon and back. I don't need editing,
> conversion etc. Just capture to the basic file types. Specifically TIF.
> 
> I'll want to be able to specify path/name, file type, resolution. The whole
> idea here is that I'm trying to remove a weak link, that being the users
> saving with the wrong file names.


Take a look at http://www.ciansoft.com/twaincontrolx/default.asp

They have a free trial version available for download.



-- 
Stuart




From jmhla at earthlink.net  Mon Nov 29 19:03:03 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:03:03 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337260@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <000501c4d678$5bf72680$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

Clueless oh well

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 1:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] what is the right way to write this code

As in Franz Kakfa of "The Metamorphosis " fame, ie.
"Man is an immense swamp. If he is seized with enthusiasm, the effect in the
general picture is as though somewhere in a corner of this swamp a little
frog had flopped into the green water."

Jim Hale




What is  " Kafkaesque"?

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net






From jmhla at earthlink.net  Mon Nov 29 20:06:34 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:06:34 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Calc line total if unit price is null  X Posted
Message-ID: <001501c4d681$3c8f8360$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

Clients that like incomplete data make me nuts.

 

Building A PODetails report.

Client has prices for some things but not others. They fluctuate day to day.

 

I can calculate quantity*price

 

I need a workaround for 

 

1. Line Total

2. PO Total 

 

When some or all prices on a Product are null.

 

Sitting here tapping my receive key

 

Thanks gang.

 

 

 

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 



From jmhla at earthlink.net  Mon Nov 29 20:10:05 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:10:05 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Phone trees  X posted
Message-ID: <001a01c4d681$ba3b9a10$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

Anybody here every wish they could call some one for help when they are
stumped?

 

I am in Los Angeles. Does any one in this area want to build a support for
quick help calls?

 

I am willing to organize A Los Angeles area tree. All numbers will be kept
off list to foil bots and spammers.

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 



From jmhla at earthlink.net  Mon Nov 29 20:23:14 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:23:14 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Right Click Issue
Message-ID: <004f01c4d683$8efb7300$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

I am working on an inherited database XP. A lot of the right click
functionality seems to be gone. ( Like DB window< I would like to add object
descriptions.

 

Is there a setting I do not know about?

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 



From jmhla at earthlink.net  Mon Nov 29 21:51:24 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:51:24 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Count pages in a report
Message-ID: <000001c4d68f$dd24cb60$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

Anyone know how to do it?

 

Working on Purchase orders. If page count > 1 then I want to put page count
on all pages. If page count = 1 then no page count needs to be displayed.

 

 

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 



From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Nov 29 21:59:36 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:59:36 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Calc line total if unit price is null  X Posted
In-Reply-To: <001501c4d681$3c8f8360$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <200411300359.iAU3xux6011050@cooper.uws.edu.au>

The math fails on a null usually. 
So just turn nulls to zeros - it is a valid way of doing it

Convert a null to zero then the math will work

Eg

In a query some thing like xLINETOTAL:iif(isnull([UnitPrice]),0)

Or nz([UnitPrice],0)

 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 1:07 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'ACCESS-L'
Subject: [AccessD] Calc line total if unit price is null X Posted

Clients that like incomplete data make me nuts.

 

Building A PODetails report.

Client has prices for some things but not others. They fluctuate day to day.

 

I can calculate quantity*price

 

I need a workaround for 

 

1. Line Total

2. PO Total 

 

When some or all prices on a Product are null.

 

Sitting here tapping my receive key

 

Thanks gang.

 

 

 

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 

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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Nov 29 22:04:39 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:04:39 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Right Click Issue
In-Reply-To: <004f01c4d683$8efb7300$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <200411300404.iAU44xx6015666@cooper.uws.edu.au>


FOR the right click menu on a form to 'come back'.....
In the Property Sheet of a form in design view Under the 'Other' tab
Make sure there is a YES in the Shortcut Menu line 

RE the DB window not showing on a right click
Hold down the shift key when opening the dB
Go to Tools|Startup the tick and selet what you require

Hope this helps



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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 1:23 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Right Click Issue

I am working on an inherited database XP. A lot of the right click
functionality seems to be gone. ( Like DB window< I would like to add object
descriptions.

 

Is there a setting I do not know about?

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Mon Nov 29 22:35:13 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:35:13 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Count pages in a report
In-Reply-To: <000001c4d68f$dd24cb60$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <000801c4d695$ff086d30$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

Ok, I did some research

To get count of pages in a report per FMS codetools:

				Public Property Get CountOfPages() As
Integer
  ' Comments  : Returns the count of Pages
  ' Source    : Total Visual SourceBook 2002
  '
  CountOfPages = m_intCountPages
  
End Property



Record source for text box 		="Page " & [Page] & " of " & [Pages]
Textbox visible = false

Pseuodo code

If countofpages>1 then
textbox1.visible = true

where do I put property?
How do I write Psudo code and where

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

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To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Count pages in a report

Anyone know how to do it?

 

Working on Purchase orders. If page count > 1 then I want to put page count
on all pages. If page count = 1 then no page count needs to be displayed.

 

 

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 

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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Nov 29 22:40:42 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:40:42 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Count pages in a report
In-Reply-To: <000001c4d68f$dd24cb60$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <200411300441.iAU4f2x6017777@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Joe

To refer to the Pages property in a macro or Visual Basic, the form or
report must include a 
text box whose ControlSource property is set to an expression that uses
Pages. 
For example, you can use the following expression as the ControlSource
property setting 
for a text box in a page footer.
Eg me.
Try something like the following in the control source of a Text Box Control
on the report

Me.txtPageCounter = "Page " & Page & " of " & Pages
Or try
Me.txtNoOfPagesInThisReport = "There are " & Pages & " in this report"
Or try
Me.txtNoOfPagesInThisReport = Pages 

(Without testing) in VBA maybe something like 
if me.txtNoOfPagesInThisReport =1 then
	Msgbox "only 1 page"
elseif me.txtNoOfPagesInThisReport >1 then
	Msgbox "more than one page - infact we have " &
me.txtNoOfPagesInThisReport & " pages"
End if
(I havent tested that little bit though)

To get the page you are on...
Debug.Print Reports("rptMyReport").OnPage


This next bit tells you if you are on an even or Odd page number
Private Sub PageFooter_Format(Cancel As Integer, FormatCount As Integer)
On Error GoTo ErrorHandler

   dim intPageNo as integer
   intPageNo = Me.Page

   Debug.Print "Page: " & intPageNo

   If intPageNo Mod 2 = 0 Then
      'The page number is even
   Else
     ' the page number is false
   End If 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 2:51 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Count pages in a report

Anyone know how to do it?

 

Working on Purchase orders. If page count > 1 then I want to put page count
on all pages. If page count = 1 then no page count needs to be displayed.

 

 

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 

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From pcs at azizaz.com  Mon Nov 29 22:43:44 2004
From: pcs at azizaz.com (Borge Hansen)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:43:44 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Count pages in a report
References: <000001c4d68f$dd24cb60$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <00df01c4d697$2cfab490$fa10a8c0@Albatross>

Joe,

Here's an example of how to put no page display on page 1
(contained in control Text28 which has it's control source :
="Page " & [Page] & " of  " & [Pages]
)
and page display on rest of report pages

Regards
Borge

<code>
Private Sub PageFooter_Format(Cancel As Integer, FormatCount As Integer)
On Error GoTo ErrorHere

    If Me.Page = 1 Then
        Me.Text28.Visible = False
    Else
        Me.Text28.Visible = True
    End If


ErrorExit:
    Exit Sub
ErrorHere:
  Select Case Err.Number
    Case Is = 0
    Resume Next
   'case is = ??
   'msgbox "Enter some error text message here"
    Case Else
    MsgBox "Error in PageFooter_Format " & ": " & Err.Number & " " &
Err.Description
  End Select
Resume ErrorExit
<code>




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> Anyone know how to do it?
>
> Working on Purchase orders. If page count > 1 then I want to put page
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>
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>
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From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Mon Nov 29 22:46:08 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Steve Conklin (Developer@UltraDNT))
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 23:46:08 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Count pages in a report
In-Reply-To: <000801c4d695$ff086d30$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <000601c4d697$828a1630$0200a8c0@COA3>

Why not in the text box record source, just put an IIF:

=IIF([Pages]>1, [Pages], "")

Steve



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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 11:35 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Count pages in a report


Ok, I did some research

To get count of pages in a report per FMS codetools:

				Public Property Get CountOfPages() As
Integer
  ' Comments  : Returns the count of Pages
  ' Source    : Total Visual SourceBook 2002
  '
  CountOfPages = m_intCountPages
  
End Property



Record source for text box 		="Page " & [Page] & " of " &
[Pages]
Textbox visible = false

Pseuodo code

If countofpages>1 then
textbox1.visible = true

where do I put property?
How do I write Psudo code and where

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 7:51 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Count pages in a report

Anyone know how to do it?

 

Working on Purchase orders. If page count > 1 then I want to put page
count on all pages. If page count = 1 then no page count needs to be
displayed.

 

 

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Mon Nov 29 23:02:56 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:02:56 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Right Click Issue
In-Reply-To: <200411300404.iAU44xx6015666@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <000901c4d699$de3dd0f0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

My hero for this crises.

Thanks Darren

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren DICK
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 8:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Right Click Issue


FOR the right click menu on a form to 'come back'.....
In the Property Sheet of a form in design view Under the 'Other' tab
Make sure there is a YES in the Shortcut Menu line 

RE the DB window not showing on a right click
Hold down the shift key when opening the dB
Go to Tools|Startup the tick and selet what you require

Hope this helps



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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2004 1:23 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Right Click Issue

I am working on an inherited database XP. A lot of the right click
functionality seems to be gone. ( Like DB window< I would like to add object
descriptions.

 

Is there a setting I do not know about?

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov 30 05:18:11 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 12:18:11 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Looking for TWAIN ocx
Message-ID: <s1ac6510.094@cactus.dk>

Hi Neal! So your're back? Could it have been after 1? years?
Anyway, have you checked these:

  http://www.vintasoft.com/vstwain-index.html 

For code examples and more:

  http://www.vintasoft.com/vstwain-faq.html 

Not free, though cheap.
Also:

  http://www.pajant.co.uk 

By the way, doesn't Windows come with its own Twain support and ocx?

If you wish to store the pictures in a database file, look here:

  http://www26.brinkster.com/alzowze/blobs.asp 

I haven't used any of these myself, just did some research recently for
a client.
If you find a solution, please share. This topic pops on from time to
time.

/gustav

>>> nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us 29-11-2004 20:44:41 >>>
I'm looking for a simple ocx/activex control/library to capture images
from a scanner in Access 2K. There are various available but the one's
I've seen seem to be built to take you to the moon and back. I don't
need editing, conversion etc. Just capture to the basic file types.
Specifically TIF.
 
I'll want to be able to specify path/name, file type, resolution. The
whole idea here is that I'm trying to remove a weak link, that being the
users saving with the wrong file names.
 
Does anyone have any recommendations?
 
Thanks,
Neal



From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Tue Nov 30 07:11:39 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 08:11:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 2000 Professional,
	Access 2000 Runtime on Windows XP
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C499@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

This runtime issue is starting to drive me a little bonkers.  I am
running Windows 2000 Professional, using the Access 2000 runtime
deployment wizard and now my manufacturers who just have plain old XP
are not able to run my runtime installation package.  The package is
prompting the user to get files that it does not have and then their
system boots.

Has anyone had this problem?  What are my options?  Will upgrading to
Access 2003/Deployment Wizard solve the XP problem when I am developing
on Windows 2000 Professional?

About SageKey - is this product good enough to take all the operating
systems and Access versions off the table and just run a clean
installation of the runtime package? 

SO:  A) - Upgrade to Access 2003/Deployment Wizard
       B) - Do the SageKey

Opinions, please?

Thanks.


From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Tue Nov 30 07:37:16 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 08:37:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Export to rtf truncates data
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74486BB6@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

List,

We have a formatted Access report that is exported to rtf via standard menu command that is suddenly truncating field labels and field data in the generated rtf file.  This problem began when the user got a new PC.  We've checked the printer and printer drivers but the correct drivers seem to be installed for all but one printer (we've tried all the printers with the same result at any rate).  A search of the archives did not yield a result so here I am asking you all.  Has anyone seen this happen and is there a fix?

TIA

Jim DeMarco
Director Application Development
Hudson Health Plan


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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Tue Nov 30 07:55:12 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 08:55:12 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 2000 Professional, Access 2000 Runtime on
	Windows    XP
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74486BB7@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Karen,

We have an app that we did not write (open source chronic disease registry) that uses A2K runtime as well.  We've experienced similar issues on Win XP machines but unfortunately we have not found a fix.  We too are thinking of upgrading to A2K3 runtime but our problem is the install app was not written here and I'm not sure how we'll deploy (the app uses MS Graph as well as Access).

Anyway, our issue with the app prompting users is the installer running when the user picks a client name from a list box.  I've seen this happen when opening Office apps but never from within a running application (and never on a list click!).

Sorry I couldn't be of more help but I figured I'd let you know about our issue.  We've since installed on numerous XP machines with only one other instance of the installer trying to run so we really haven't a clue as to what's triggering this.  The first case does not have an Office install at all (further adding to the mystery), the second did (Office 2003 we're told but it was never confirmed).

Jim DeMarco

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 8:12 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 2000 Professional, Access 2000 Runtime on
Windows XP


This runtime issue is starting to drive me a little bonkers.  I am
running Windows 2000 Professional, using the Access 2000 runtime
deployment wizard and now my manufacturers who just have plain old XP
are not able to run my runtime installation package.  The package is
prompting the user to get files that it does not have and then their
system boots.

Has anyone had this problem?  What are my options?  Will upgrading to
Access 2003/Deployment Wizard solve the XP problem when I am developing
on Windows 2000 Professional?

About SageKey - is this product good enough to take all the operating
systems and Access versions off the table and just run a clean
installation of the runtime package? 

SO:  A) - Upgrade to Access 2003/Deployment Wizard
       B) - Do the SageKey

Opinions, please?

Thanks.
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov 30 08:16:44 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:16:44 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Export to rtf truncates data
Message-ID: <s1ac8eee.001@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

I've heard of a similar case; same symptoms but no solution.

Have you turned off all autospelling, autocorrection etc. in Access XP?
This can influence on margin settings (!) in reports.
Could it be a font issue? What happens if you format the entire report
with another font? It may not be an option but could bring an indication
of where to look further.

If you find out, please let us know.

/gustav

>>> Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org 30-11-2004 14:37:16 >>>
List,

We have a formatted Access report that is exported to rtf via standard
menu command that is suddenly truncating field labels and field data in
the generated rtf file.  This problem began when the user got a new PC. 
We've checked the printer and printer drivers but the correct drivers
seem to be installed for all but one printer (we've tried all the
printers with the same result at any rate).  A search of the archives
did not yield a result so here I am asking you all.  Has anyone seen
this happen and is there a fix?

TIA

Jim DeMarco
Director Application Development
Hudson Health Plan



From mikedorism at adelphia.net  Tue Nov 30 08:23:35 2004
From: mikedorism at adelphia.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:23:35 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 2000 Professional,
	Access 2000 Runtime on Windows XP
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C499@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <000001c4d6e8$2fda02f0$0b08a845@hargrove.internal>

We had similar problems doing installs on Windows XP machines.  What files
is it prompting them to get so I can check my notes?

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 8:12 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 2000 Professional,Access 2000 Runtime on Windows
XP


This runtime issue is starting to drive me a little bonkers.  I am running
Windows 2000 Professional, using the Access 2000 runtime deployment wizard
and now my manufacturers who just have plain old XP are not able to run my
runtime installation package.  The package is prompting the user to get
files that it does not have and then their system boots.

Has anyone had this problem?  What are my options?  Will upgrading to Access
2003/Deployment Wizard solve the XP problem when I am developing on Windows
2000 Professional?

About SageKey - is this product good enough to take all the operating
systems and Access versions off the table and just run a clean installation
of the runtime package? 

SO:  A) - Upgrade to Access 2003/Deployment Wizard
       B) - Do the SageKey

Opinions, please?

Thanks.
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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Tue Nov 30 08:25:02 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:25:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Export to rtf truncates data
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74486BB8@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Thanks Gustav and my apologies for not stating that we're using A97 on Win2K.  Will try both suggestions anyway and let you know how we make out.

Jim D.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:17 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Export to rtf truncates data


Hi Jim

I've heard of a similar case; same symptoms but no solution.

Have you turned off all autospelling, autocorrection etc. in Access XP?
This can influence on margin settings (!) in reports.
Could it be a font issue? What happens if you format the entire report
with another font? It may not be an option but could bring an indication
of where to look further.

If you find out, please let us know.

/gustav

>>> Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org 30-11-2004 14:37:16 >>>
List,

We have a formatted Access report that is exported to rtf via standard
menu command that is suddenly truncating field labels and field data in
the generated rtf file.  This problem began when the user got a new PC. 
We've checked the printer and printer drivers but the correct drivers
seem to be installed for all but one printer (we've tried all the
printers with the same result at any rate).  A search of the archives
did not yield a result so here I am asking you all.  Has anyone seen
this happen and is there a fix?

TIA

Jim DeMarco
Director Application Development
Hudson Health Plan

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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Tue Nov 30 08:34:09 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:34:09 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 2000 Professional,
	Access 2000 Runtime on Windows XP
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C49F@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

My user is in California, so I will have to wait for him to get to work
to find out.  I will post back later.  It is not just me.... Hmmm.
Sagekey anyone?

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:24 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Windows 2000 Professional,Access 2000 Runtime on
Windows XP


We had similar problems doing installs on Windows XP machines.  What
files
is it prompting them to get so I can check my notes?

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 8:12 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 2000 Professional,Access 2000 Runtime on
Windows
XP


This runtime issue is starting to drive me a little bonkers.  I am
running
Windows 2000 Professional, using the Access 2000 runtime deployment
wizard
and now my manufacturers who just have plain old XP are not able to run
my
runtime installation package.  The package is prompting the user to get
files that it does not have and then their system boots.

Has anyone had this problem?  What are my options?  Will upgrading to
Access
2003/Deployment Wizard solve the XP problem when I am developing on
Windows
2000 Professional?

About SageKey - is this product good enough to take all the operating
systems and Access versions off the table and just run a clean
installation
of the runtime package? 

SO:  A) - Upgrade to Access 2003/Deployment Wizard
       B) - Do the SageKey

Opinions, please?

Thanks.
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From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:38:21 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Form flickers like hell in A2K3
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B55A0@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Can anyone tell me why the form in this database flickers like hell when
moving over the green zones or labels.
This only in A2K3, same database same form, does not flicker in A2K2....
 
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From Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com  Tue Nov 30 09:09:34 2004
From: Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com (Lavsa, Rich)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:09:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access Charts (Graphing) and resolution issue
Message-ID: <2A261FF9D5EBCA46940C11688CE872EE03AAF1@goexchange2.pghcorning.com>

Hello all,

I have an issue.  I spent hours getting my graphs to work properly on
these reports.  I seem to have hit yet another snag with the chart
object.  I have my resolution set to 1024 x 768 and my users are usually
on 800 x 600.  I take into account when developing to make sure the
screens fit on a 800 x 600 screen.  I didn't do testing on my graphs
using a standard users computer because I didn't even think this would
be an issue.  What is happening is that the graphs are getting chopped
off at the Right hand side on a users machine where they are not on my
machine.  

Just to test my theory that it had to be the resolution I reduced mine,
and it happened to me as well.  I am certain it has to do with the
resolution set on each machine.  

Has anyone ever encountered this, or have any idea on how to overcome
it.  The graphs are somewhat complex in the fashion that I have to
populate temp tables because the aggregation will not happen all at once
in a query, and most of the graphs are trend style over a month or even
yearly so they are usually wide.  

Thanks in advance
Rich


From oleg_123 at xuppa.com  Tue Nov 30 10:52:27 2004
From: oleg_123 at xuppa.com (oleg_123 at xuppa.com)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:52:27 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [AccessD] Query Question
Message-ID: <4394.212.42.94.42.1101833547.squirrel@imap1.xuppa.com>

I need a query to have 4 extra columns, which would have values from
column [book] is previous column is not 0. something like

ExtraColumn:IF [clienthours] <> 0 Then  [book]

Thank you



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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Nov 30 09:51:14 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:51:14 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Access Charts (Graphing) and resolution issue
In-Reply-To: <15414158.1101827504822.JavaMail.root@sniper13.securence.com>
Message-ID: <000601c4d6f4$6c136070$de1811d8@danwaters>

Rich,

A possibility is that the DPI setting on your screen resolution might be
different between PC's.  Go to Settings, push Advanced, and see what your
setting is and your customer's setting.  Changing DPI will affect the
resolution of the entire screen.

Dan Waters
ProMation Systems

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lavsa, Rich
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:10 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access Charts (Graphing) and resolution issue

Hello all,

I have an issue.  I spent hours getting my graphs to work properly on
these reports.  I seem to have hit yet another snag with the chart
object.  I have my resolution set to 1024 x 768 and my users are usually
on 800 x 600.  I take into account when developing to make sure the
screens fit on a 800 x 600 screen.  I didn't do testing on my graphs
using a standard users computer because I didn't even think this would
be an issue.  What is happening is that the graphs are getting chopped
off at the Right hand side on a users machine where they are not on my
machine.  

Just to test my theory that it had to be the resolution I reduced mine,
and it happened to me as well.  I am certain it has to do with the
resolution set on each machine.  

Has anyone ever encountered this, or have any idea on how to overcome
it.  The graphs are somewhat complex in the fashion that I have to
populate temp tables because the aggregation will not happen all at once
in a query, and most of the graphs are trend style over a month or even
yearly so they are usually wide.  

Thanks in advance
Rich
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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Tue Nov 30 10:00:12 2004
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:00:12 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Query Question
In-Reply-To: <668C5C868606C641857281147C46893657B807@primary.orridge.co.uk>
Message-ID: <668C5C868606C641857281147C4689365525D1@primary.orridge.co.uk>

What about 

ExtraColumn1: IIF([ClientHours]<>0, [BOOK])

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
oleg_123 at xuppa.com
Sent: 30 November 2004 16:52
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Query Question


I need a query to have 4 extra columns, which would have values from column
[book] is previous column is not 0. something like

ExtraColumn:IF [clienthours] <> 0 Then  [book]

Thank you



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From Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com  Tue Nov 30 10:16:25 2004
From: Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com (Lavsa, Rich)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:16:25 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access Charts (Graphing) and resolution issue
Message-ID: <2A261FF9D5EBCA46940C11688CE872EE03AAF2@goexchange2.pghcorning.com>

I had checked that before and all are set to (small fonts) Normal Size
or 96 DPI depending on the Windows version XP or 2000.  Either way all
are set to 96DPI.  



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 10:51 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access Charts (Graphing) and resolution issue


Rich,

A possibility is that the DPI setting on your screen resolution might be
different between PC's.  Go to Settings, push Advanced, and see what
your setting is and your customer's setting.  Changing DPI will affect
the resolution of the entire screen.

Dan Waters
ProMation Systems

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lavsa, Rich
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:10 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access Charts (Graphing) and resolution issue

Hello all,

I have an issue.  I spent hours getting my graphs to work properly on
these reports.  I seem to have hit yet another snag with the chart
object.  I have my resolution set to 1024 x 768 and my users are usually
on 800 x 600.  I take into account when developing to make sure the
screens fit on a 800 x 600 screen.  I didn't do testing on my graphs
using a standard users computer because I didn't even think this would
be an issue.  What is happening is that the graphs are getting chopped
off at the Right hand side on a users machine where they are not on my
machine.  

Just to test my theory that it had to be the resolution I reduced mine,
and it happened to me as well.  I am certain it has to do with the
resolution set on each machine.  

Has anyone ever encountered this, or have any idea on how to overcome
it.  The graphs are somewhat complex in the fashion that I have to
populate temp tables because the aggregation will not happen all at once
in a query, and most of the graphs are trend style over a month or even
yearly so they are usually wide.  

Thanks in advance
Rich
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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Tue Nov 30 11:09:53 2004
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:09:53 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 2000 Professional,
	Access 2000 Runtime on Windows XP
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C499@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <000f01c4d6ff$68902c20$8500a8c0@murphyf3vdfepi>

Karen,

We have a product developed in Access XP that we sell.  I built the install
with Wise installer 9 and the associated Sagekey scripts.  We have had not
experienced the problem you describe.  I have tested our installation
package on as many operating systems and different configurations of these
systems as I can come up with and all seem to work.  I'd recommend going the
Wise/Install shield Sagekey route.

Another benefit of using the Sagekey scripts is that you can download from
Sagekey all the ancillary files required for installation in one package.
When you use the Developer deployment wizard it pulls the files from your
computer and you may run into versioning problems.

Doug

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 5:12 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 2000 Professional,Access 2000 Runtime on Windows
XP


This runtime issue is starting to drive me a little bonkers.  I am running
Windows 2000 Professional, using the Access 2000 runtime deployment wizard
and now my manufacturers who just have plain old XP are not able to run my
runtime installation package.  The package is prompting the user to get
files that it does not have and then their system boots.

Has anyone had this problem?  What are my options?  Will upgrading to Access
2003/Deployment Wizard solve the XP problem when I am developing on Windows
2000 Professional?

About SageKey - is this product good enough to take all the operating
systems and Access versions off the table and just run a clean installation
of the runtime package? 

SO:  A) - Upgrade to Access 2003/Deployment Wizard
       B) - Do the SageKey

Opinions, please?

Thanks.
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 30 11:19:40 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:19:40 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 2000 Professional,
	Access 2000 Runtime on Windows XP
References: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C49F@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <41ACABAC.5090201@shaw.ca>

Well you could develop your Access 2000 runtime on an XP box.
Going to Access 2003 will give you a few more headaches as you will have 
to handle Access Macro Security with 2003 yourself.
The Access 2003 sagekey scripts have a way of disabling macro security 
for a specific install without using a certificate store.
For one site I had someone write a quick and dirty VB program to startup 
up access with 2003 macro security disabled..
With SageKey you are essentially paying for the testing of  their 
product with a myriad of OS and Access permutations.
You could buy just the MSI installer scripts from SageKey if you have a 
vanilla install, ie. no multiple OCX's to be installed as well.
Cheaper than buying Install Shield or Wise with the scripts.
Ask sagekey about it.
Why don't you phone SageKey  (888) 248-0055 Tollfree
They are in British Columbia and speak Canadian ;).

Nicholson, Karen wrote:

>My user is in California, so I will have to wait for him to get to work
>to find out.  I will post back later.  It is not just me.... Hmmm.
>Sagekey anyone?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
>Manning
>Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:24 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Windows 2000 Professional,Access 2000 Runtime on
>Windows XP
>
>
>We had similar problems doing installs on Windows XP machines.  What
>files
>is it prompting them to get so I can check my notes?
>
>Doris Manning
>Database Administrator
>Hargrove Inc.
>www.hargroveinc.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
>Karen
>Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 8:12 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] Windows 2000 Professional,Access 2000 Runtime on
>Windows
>XP
>
>
>This runtime issue is starting to drive me a little bonkers.  I am
>running
>Windows 2000 Professional, using the Access 2000 runtime deployment
>wizard
>and now my manufacturers who just have plain old XP are not able to run
>my
>runtime installation package.  The package is prompting the user to get
>files that it does not have and then their system boots.
>
>Has anyone had this problem?  What are my options?  Will upgrading to
>Access
>2003/Deployment Wizard solve the XP problem when I am developing on
>Windows
>2000 Professional?
>
>About SageKey - is this product good enough to take all the operating
>systems and Access versions off the table and just run a clean
>installation
>of the runtime package? 
>
>SO:  A) - Upgrade to Access 2003/Deployment Wizard
>       B) - Do the SageKey
>
>Opinions, please?
>
>Thanks.
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 30 11:41:00 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:41:00 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Access Charts (Graphing) and resolution issue
References: <2A261FF9D5EBCA46940C11688CE872EE03AAF2@goexchange2.pghcorning.com>
Message-ID: <41ACB0AC.7060705@shaw.ca>


Here is one explanation, maybe hunt around their site for further info.
They do a lot of Access printer work.

There is a bit of a bug in Graph, that runs something like this:

If you create a graph in a report where your screen resolution is say
1024x768  and then move that report with a graph in it to a machine running
800x600, the internal OLE object for the Graph, doesn't resize and your
graph appears to run out side of the OLE control.  I'm assuming that's what
you are seeing when trying to play with the zoom etc.

The only way to work around this is to design your graphs at a modest
resolution and make sure that the internal chart area inside the graph
object itself (not the ole control on the page, but the chart area) has
sufficient room around it so that if the graph container "shrinks" on page
resolution, that its still fully visible.

This impacts printing (i.e. the visible resolution of the screen), due to
WYSIWYG (haven't heard that term in a while) interplay between the screen
resolutions and printer output in drawing.
-- 
Steve Arbaugh
ACG Soft
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/attac-cg


Lavsa, Rich wrote:

>I had checked that before and all are set to (small fonts) Normal Size
>or 96 DPI depending on the Windows version XP or 2000.  Either way all
>are set to 96DPI.  
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
>Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 10:51 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access Charts (Graphing) and resolution issue
>
>
>Rich,
>
>A possibility is that the DPI setting on your screen resolution might be
>different between PC's.  Go to Settings, push Advanced, and see what
>your setting is and your customer's setting.  Changing DPI will affect
>the resolution of the entire screen.
>
>Dan Waters
>ProMation Systems
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lavsa, Rich
>Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:10 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Access Charts (Graphing) and resolution issue
>
>Hello all,
>
>I have an issue.  I spent hours getting my graphs to work properly on
>these reports.  I seem to have hit yet another snag with the chart
>object.  I have my resolution set to 1024 x 768 and my users are usually
>on 800 x 600.  I take into account when developing to make sure the
>screens fit on a 800 x 600 screen.  I didn't do testing on my graphs
>using a standard users computer because I didn't even think this would
>be an issue.  What is happening is that the graphs are getting chopped
>off at the Right hand side on a users machine where they are not on my
>machine.  
>
>Just to test my theory that it had to be the resolution I reduced mine,
>and it happened to me as well.  I am certain it has to do with the
>resolution set on each machine.  
>
>Has anyone ever encountered this, or have any idea on how to overcome
>it.  The graphs are somewhat complex in the fashion that I have to
>populate temp tables because the aggregation will not happen all at once
>in a query, and most of the graphs are trend style over a month or even
>yearly so they are usually wide.  
>
>Thanks in advance
>Rich
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From john at winhaven.net  Tue Nov 30 11:49:22 2004
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:49:22 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 2000 Professional,
	Access 2000 Runtime on Windows XP
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C49F@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <NGBBLIECOMAKBPEDMKEJGECLIIAA.john@winhaven.net>

Karen,
I have used Wise/Sagekey for 5 years now for various applications to many
end users. These apps have been installed on W95/98/ME/NT/2K/XP and server
versions. I have never had a problem with conflicts or with installations.

These products are expensive, and do require some involved learning on how
to operate Wise Installation System beyond its wizard interfaces (SageKey
scripts are just that - text scripts to be used as add-in/starting points
for the installed products), I have been totally satisfied with these
purchases and IMO they have paid for themselves. If for no other reason than
a lack of the frustration I see from others who haven't made the purchases.

John B.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 8:34 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Windows 2000 Professional,Access 2000 Runtime on
Windows XP


My user is in California, so I will have to wait for him to get to work
to find out.  I will post back later.  It is not just me.... Hmmm.
Sagekey anyone?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:24 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Windows 2000 Professional,Access 2000 Runtime on
Windows XP


We had similar problems doing installs on Windows XP machines.  What
files
is it prompting them to get so I can check my notes?

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 8:12 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 2000 Professional,Access 2000 Runtime on
Windows
XP


This runtime issue is starting to drive me a little bonkers.  I am
running
Windows 2000 Professional, using the Access 2000 runtime deployment
wizard
and now my manufacturers who just have plain old XP are not able to run
my
runtime installation package.  The package is prompting the user to get
files that it does not have and then their system boots.

Has anyone had this problem?  What are my options?  Will upgrading to
Access
2003/Deployment Wizard solve the XP problem when I am developing on
Windows
2000 Professional?

About SageKey - is this product good enough to take all the operating
systems and Access versions off the table and just run a clean
installation
of the runtime package?

SO:  A) - Upgrade to Access 2003/Deployment Wizard
       B) - Do the SageKey

Opinions, please?

Thanks.
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From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Nov 30 12:09:47 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 13:09:47 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access Charts (Graphing) and resolution issue
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF9AC@DISABILITYINS01>

>due to WYSIWYG (haven't heard that term in a while)

WYSIWYWPNGSDBAMAI:

What You See Is What You Will Probably NEVER Get So Don't Bother Asking Me
About It.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: MartyConnelly [mailto:martyconnelly at shaw.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 12:41 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Charts (Graphing) and resolution issue



Here is one explanation, maybe hunt around their site for further info.
They do a lot of Access printer work.

There is a bit of a bug in Graph, that runs something like this:

If you create a graph in a report where your screen resolution is say
1024x768  and then move that report with a graph in it to a machine running
800x600, the internal OLE object for the Graph, doesn't resize and your
graph appears to run out side of the OLE control.  I'm assuming that's what
you are seeing when trying to play with the zoom etc.

The only way to work around this is to design your graphs at a modest
resolution and make sure that the internal chart area inside the graph
object itself (not the ole control on the page, but the chart area) has
sufficient room around it so that if the graph container "shrinks" on page
resolution, that its still fully visible.

This impacts printing (i.e. the visible resolution of the screen), due to
WYSIWYG (haven't heard that term in a while) interplay between the screen
resolutions and printer output in drawing.
-- 
Steve Arbaugh
ACG Soft
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/attac-cg


Lavsa, Rich wrote:

>I had checked that before and all are set to (small fonts) Normal Size
>or 96 DPI depending on the Windows version XP or 2000.  Either way all
>are set to 96DPI.  
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
>Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 10:51 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access Charts (Graphing) and resolution issue
>
>
>Rich,
>
>A possibility is that the DPI setting on your screen resolution might be
>different between PC's.  Go to Settings, push Advanced, and see what
>your setting is and your customer's setting.  Changing DPI will affect
>the resolution of the entire screen.
>
>Dan Waters
>ProMation Systems
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lavsa, Rich
>Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:10 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Access Charts (Graphing) and resolution issue
>
>Hello all,
>
>I have an issue.  I spent hours getting my graphs to work properly on
>these reports.  I seem to have hit yet another snag with the chart
>object.  I have my resolution set to 1024 x 768 and my users are usually
>on 800 x 600.  I take into account when developing to make sure the
>screens fit on a 800 x 600 screen.  I didn't do testing on my graphs
>using a standard users computer because I didn't even think this would
>be an issue.  What is happening is that the graphs are getting chopped
>off at the Right hand side on a users machine where they are not on my
>machine.  
>
>Just to test my theory that it had to be the resolution I reduced mine,
>and it happened to me as well.  I am certain it has to do with the
>resolution set on each machine.  
>
>Has anyone ever encountered this, or have any idea on how to overcome
>it.  The graphs are somewhat complex in the fashion that I have to
>populate temp tables because the aggregation will not happen all at once
>in a query, and most of the graphs are trend style over a month or even
>yearly so they are usually wide.  
>
>Thanks in advance
>Rich
>  
>

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From Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com  Tue Nov 30 12:19:04 2004
From: Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com (Lavsa, Rich)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 13:19:04 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access Charts (Graphing) and resolution issue
Message-ID: <2A261FF9D5EBCA46940C11688CE872EE03AAF4@goexchange2.pghcorning.com>

That sounds exactly like what is happening to me.  

I suppose there is no way to "trick" the application that it is actually
set at 1024x768 at report generation time is there?

Rich


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 12:41 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Charts (Graphing) and resolution issue



Here is one explanation, maybe hunt around their site for further info.
They do a lot of Access printer work.

There is a bit of a bug in Graph, that runs something like this:

If you create a graph in a report where your screen resolution is say
1024x768  and then move that report with a graph in it to a machine
running 800x600, the internal OLE object for the Graph, doesn't resize
and your graph appears to run out side of the OLE control.  I'm assuming
that's what you are seeing when trying to play with the zoom etc.

The only way to work around this is to design your graphs at a modest
resolution and make sure that the internal chart area inside the graph
object itself (not the ole control on the page, but the chart area) has
sufficient room around it so that if the graph container "shrinks" on
page resolution, that its still fully visible.

This impacts printing (i.e. the visible resolution of the screen), due
to WYSIWYG (haven't heard that term in a while) interplay between the
screen resolutions and printer output in drawing.
-- 
Steve Arbaugh
ACG Soft
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/attac-cg


Lavsa, Rich wrote:

>I had checked that before and all are set to (small fonts) Normal Size 
>or 96 DPI depending on the Windows version XP or 2000.  Either way all 
>are set to 96DPI.
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
>Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 10:51 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access Charts (Graphing) and resolution issue
>
>
>Rich,
>
>A possibility is that the DPI setting on your screen resolution might 
>be different between PC's.  Go to Settings, push Advanced, and see what

>your setting is and your customer's setting.  Changing DPI will affect 
>the resolution of the entire screen.
>
>Dan Waters
>ProMation Systems
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lavsa, Rich
>Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:10 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Access Charts (Graphing) and resolution issue
>
>Hello all,
>
>I have an issue.  I spent hours getting my graphs to work properly on 
>these reports.  I seem to have hit yet another snag with the chart 
>object.  I have my resolution set to 1024 x 768 and my users are 
>usually on 800 x 600.  I take into account when developing to make sure

>the screens fit on a 800 x 600 screen.  I didn't do testing on my 
>graphs using a standard users computer because I didn't even think this

>would be an issue.  What is happening is that the graphs are getting 
>chopped off at the Right hand side on a users machine where they are 
>not on my machine.
>
>Just to test my theory that it had to be the resolution I reduced mine,

>and it happened to me as well.  I am certain it has to do with the 
>resolution set on each machine.
>
>Has anyone ever encountered this, or have any idea on how to overcome 
>it.  The graphs are somewhat complex in the fashion that I have to 
>populate temp tables because the aggregation will not happen all at 
>once in a query, and most of the graphs are trend style over a month or

>even yearly so they are usually wide.
>
>Thanks in advance
>Rich
>  
>

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 30 12:26:05 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:26:05 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Form flickers like hell in A2K3
References: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B55A0@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <41ACBB3D.6040209@shaw.ca>

You ain't gonna believe this but if running WinXP change your theme  by 
right-clicking your Windows XP desktop, choosing Properties, and setting 
the Theme to "Windows Classic".
If  you cannot solve it by deselecting Use Windows Themed Controls on 
Forms under Tools | Options | Forms/Reports in Access 2003
The flickering or flutter goes away on my machine using Win XP Theme 
Classic Access 2003 and  by deselecting above option
The flickering is triggered by unattached labels on the page of a tab 
control. The workaround is to convert these labels to text boxes.
For non english speakers I found this by searching on Screen Flutter 
rather than Flicker.

For full explanation. and code to correct all forms if above tools 
option method doesn't work
http://members.iinet.net.au/~allenbrowne/ser-46.html

Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:

>Can anyone tell me why the form in this database flickers like hell when
>moving over the green zones or labels.
>This only in A2K3, same database same form, does not flicker in A2K2....
> 
>http://www.ithelps.be/temp/test.mdb
> 
>greetz
>
> 
>
>Erwin Craps
>
>Zaakvoerder 
>
>www.ithelps.be/jonathan
>
> 
>
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>offence. Please delete if obtained in error and E-mail confirmation to
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><http://www.stadleuven.be/> 
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>

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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Tue Nov 30 13:38:16 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 20:38:16 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Form flickers like hell in A2K3
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B55A1@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

I don't believe this :-)
And this is known since february and no fix yet????

Pff A2K3 is disapointing me.
I did'nt programmed a lot in the last 6 months or so, and I recently
started again in A2K3.
I crash about three to four times a day my Access 2K3 while developing,
sometimes just when clicking on a combobox to open it.

I'm back to A2K2 now...

Erwin

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 7:26 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Form flickers like hell in A2K3

You ain't gonna believe this but if running WinXP change your theme  by
right-clicking your Windows XP desktop, choosing Properties, and setting
the Theme to "Windows Classic".
If  you cannot solve it by deselecting Use Windows Themed Controls on
Forms under Tools | Options | Forms/Reports in Access 2003 The
flickering or flutter goes away on my machine using Win XP Theme Classic
Access 2003 and  by deselecting above option The flickering is triggered
by unattached labels on the page of a tab control. The workaround is to
convert these labels to text boxes.
For non english speakers I found this by searching on Screen Flutter
rather than Flicker.

For full explanation. and code to correct all forms if above tools
option method doesn't work
http://members.iinet.net.au/~allenbrowne/ser-46.html

Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:

>Can anyone tell me why the form in this database flickers like hell 
>when moving over the green zones or labels.
>This only in A2K3, same database same form, does not flicker in
A2K2....
> 
>http://www.ithelps.be/temp/test.mdb
> 
>greetz
>
> 
>
>Erwin Craps
>
>Zaakvoerder
>
>www.ithelps.be/jonathan
>
> 
>
>This E-mail is confidential, may be legally privileged, and is for the 
>intended recipient only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution, or 
>reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited and may be a 
>criminal offence. Please delete if obtained in error and E-mail 
>confirmation to the sender.
>
>IT Helps - I.T. Help Center  ***  Box Office Belgium & Luxembourg
>
>www.ithelps.be <http://www.ithelps.be/>   *  www.boxoffice.be
><http://www.boxoffice.be/>   *  www.stadleuven.be
><http://www.stadleuven.be/>
>
>IT Helps bvba* ** Mercatorpad 3 **  3000 Leuven
>
>IT Helps  *  Phone: +32 16 296 404  *  Fax: +32 16 296 405 E-mail:
>Info at ithelps.be
>
>Box Office **  Fax: +32 16 296 406 **  Box Office E-mail:
>Staff at boxoffice.be <mailto:figures at boxoffice.be>
>
> 
>  
>

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov 30 13:46:38 2004
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 20:46:38 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Form flickers like hell in A2K3
Message-ID: <s1acdc4f.006@cactus.dk>

Hi Marty

> You ain't gonna believe this ..

So true!

/gustav


From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Tue Nov 30 15:09:01 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:09:01 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Right Click Issue
In-Reply-To: <200411301312.iAUDCtL17396@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041130150825.04b68008@pop3.highstream.net>

Check under startup options and see if the allow shortcut menus is checked.


At 07:12 AM 11/30/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:23:14 -0800
>From: "Joe Hecht" <jmhla at earthlink.net>
>Subject: [AccessD] Right Click Issue
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <004f01c4d683$8efb7300$6501a8c0 at delllaptop>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="US-ASCII"
>
>I am working on an inherited database XP. A lot of the right click
>functionality seems to be gone. ( Like DB window< I would like to add object
>descriptions.
>
>
>
>Is there a setting I do not know about?
>
>
>
>JOE HECHT
>
>LOS ANGELES CA
>
>jmhla at earthlink.net




From mcaro at bigpond.net.au  Tue Nov 30 15:23:46 2004
From: mcaro at bigpond.net.au (Martin Caro)
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 08:23:46 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Push merge list to Word
Message-ID: <000c01c4d722$e0556810$0100000a@MITSERVER>

Hi Folks

I am looking for some code to send the results of an Access query to Word to be used as a merge list for envelops and/or letters. 

My search to date has provided various push/pull bits an pieces with varying complexity but I'm still looking for a simple push method that will launch Word with the data source in place.

Any pointers would be appreciated

Martin




From jmhla at earthlink.net  Tue Nov 30 15:30:17 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 13:30:17 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Push merge list to Word
In-Reply-To: <000c01c4d722$e0556810$0100000a@MITSERVER>
Message-ID: <200411302130.iAULUDL16603@databaseadvisors.com>

Depending on how automated you need you can start wood and use there merge
tool.

If you need more let me know.

Joe Hecht
jmhla at earthlink.net
28g
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Caro
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 1:24 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Push merge list to Word

Hi Folks

I am looking for some code to send the results of an Access query to Word to
be used as a merge list for envelops and/or letters. 

My search to date has provided various push/pull bits an pieces with varying
complexity but I'm still looking for a simple push method that will launch
Word with the data source in place.

Any pointers would be appreciated

Martin


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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Tue Nov 30 16:24:37 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:24:37 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Count pages in a report
In-Reply-To: <000601c4d697$828a1630$0200a8c0@COA3>
Message-ID: <005f01c4d72b$63e93550$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

Thanks All

I read all suggestion but putting it in an IIF seems to be what I wanted.

With Steve's help I came up with the expression below which seems to work.



=IIF([Pages]>1,"Page " & [Page] & " of " & [Pages], "")

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Conklin
(Developer at UltraDNT)
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 8:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Count pages in a report

Why not in the text box record source, just put an IIF:

=IIF([Pages]>1, [Pages], "")

Steve








From mcaro at bigpond.net.au  Tue Nov 30 17:42:17 2004
From: mcaro at bigpond.net.au (Martin Caro)
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:42:17 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Push merge list to Word
References: <200411302130.iAULUDL16603@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <005101c4d736$3a4c9600$0100000a@MITSERVER>

I need to automate the process from within Access ie Word is launched, the
data source is set and the user just needs to hit merge in Word.

I need to supply buttons in Access for envelops or  letter.... I'm aware
I'll need to setup a form letter/s in Word.

Martin

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Hecht" <jmhla at earthlink.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 8:30 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Push merge list to Word


> Depending on how automated you need you can start wood and use there merge
> tool.
>
> If you need more let me know.
>
> Joe Hecht
> jmhla at earthlink.net
> 28g
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Caro
> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 1:24 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Push merge list to Word
>
> Hi Folks
>
> I am looking for some code to send the results of an Access query to Word
to
> be used as a merge list for envelops and/or letters.
>
> My search to date has provided various push/pull bits an pieces with
varying
> complexity but I'm still looking for a simple push method that will launch
> Word with the data source in place.
>
> Any pointers would be appreciated
>
> Martin
>
>
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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Tue Nov 30 17:46:22 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:46:22 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Which Report Event to use. and related code XP
Message-ID: <006c01c4d736$cf3465e0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

I want to set some code 

          If is null [txtnotes] then

          [txtnotes].visible = false

 

I am thinking that should go into the on format event, but I do not see that
event. This text box is part of a sub report so it needs to check this for
each row in the report.

 

Thanks

 

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 



From jmhla at earthlink.net  Tue Nov 30 17:53:00 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:53:00 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Push merge list to Word
In-Reply-To: <005101c4d736$3a4c9600$0100000a@MITSERVER>
Message-ID: <007201c4d737$bc6ba1c0$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

Helen Feddema Access book has something on that. I have not read that
chapter yet.

Check the group archives. This topic has been discussed before.

I need to figure out too, for the project I have been harassing the list
this week about.

JOE HECHT
LOS ANGELES CA 
 jmhla at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Caro
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 3:42 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Push merge list to Word

I need to automate the process from within Access ie Word is launched, the
data source is set and the user just needs to hit merge in Word.

I need to supply buttons in Access for envelops or  letter.... I'm aware
I'll need to setup a form letter/s in Word.

Martin

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Hecht" <jmhla at earthlink.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 8:30 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Push merge list to Word


> Depending on how automated you need you can start wood and use there merge
> tool.
>
> If you need more let me know.
>
> Joe Hecht
> jmhla at earthlink.net
> 28g
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Caro
> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 1:24 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Push merge list to Word
>
> Hi Folks
>
> I am looking for some code to send the results of an Access query to Word
to
> be used as a merge list for envelops and/or letters.
>
> My search to date has provided various push/pull bits an pieces with
varying
> complexity but I'm still looking for a simple push method that will launch
> Word with the data source in place.
>
> Any pointers would be appreciated
>
> Martin
>
>
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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Tue Nov 30 20:08:41 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:08:41 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Convert text to number X posted
Message-ID: <000001c4d74a$b1093960$6501a8c0@delllaptop>

Finally found big trap in inherited database.

 

Foreign Key Vendor ID is set as text. I need to convert it to long number. 

 

If I change data type to number Access threatens to delete all fields.

 

I cannot find anything in help on Cnum.

 

All thoughts apreciated

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Nov 30 20:35:57 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 21:35:57 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Convert text to number X posted
In-Reply-To: <000001c4d74a$b1093960$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <001d01c4d74e$81574e60$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

I would copy the table STRUCTURE to a new table, same name, with a 1 on the
end.  Now the new table is empty.  Change the PK to an autonumber.  Build an
append query to append the data from old to new.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:09 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'ACCESS-L'
Subject: [AccessD] Convert text to number X posted


Finally found big trap in inherited database.

 

Foreign Key Vendor ID is set as text. I need to convert it to long number. 

 

If I change data type to number Access threatens to delete all fields.

 

I cannot find anything in help on Cnum.

 

All thoughts apreciated

 

JOE HECHT

LOS ANGELES CA 

jmhla at earthlink.net

 

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From pcs at azizaz.com  Tue Nov 30 20:41:11 2004
From: pcs at azizaz.com (Borge Hansen)
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 12:41:11 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Convert text to number X posted
References: <000001c4d74a$b1093960$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
Message-ID: <00bc01c4d74f$384969a0$fa10a8c0@Albatross>

Hi Joe,
This is what I would do:
Create new Number Field in table
Update the NumberField with Key Vendor ID converted to number
Run a comparison check of Key Vendor ID and text value of Number Field
Do necessary clean up on records where not identical
Make the Number Field the new FK
Tick it Done!

Regards
Borge Hansen



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Hecht" <jmhla at earthlink.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>; "'ACCESS-L'" <ACCESS-L at PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 12:08 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Convert text to number X posted


> Finally found big trap in inherited database.
>
>
>
> Foreign Key Vendor ID is set as text. I need to convert it to long number.
>
>
>
> If I change data type to number Access threatens to delete all fields.
>
>
>
> I cannot find anything in help on Cnum.
>
>
>
> All thoughts apreciated
>
>
>
> JOE HECHT
>
> LOS ANGELES CA
>
> jmhla at earthlink.net
>
>
>
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From greggs at msn.com  Tue Nov 30 22:38:15 2004
From: greggs at msn.com (Gregg)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 22:38:15 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] To open or not to open
References: <000001c4d74a$b1093960$6501a8c0@delllaptop>
	<00bc01c4d74f$384969a0$fa10a8c0@Albatross>
Message-ID: <BAY3-DAV241E778BCA92160EB8FE92C6BF0@phx.gbl>

I have a home made security system that addresses user rights based upon their function.  My method is to call a module that is on the on open of the form that will set the Add, Edit, and Delete rights based upon the user's function and the rights assigned to that function. My problem is... if a user does not have Add rights and there is no data for the criteria specified... I get an error "can't go to the specified record ".  I understand the form is being opened without data to go to and therefore will try to go to a new record and naturally will error because we have set ADD to no.  My question is what method can I use to avoid all that?  My wish is to issue a message that there is no data to view and return without opening the fom 

From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 30 23:07:15 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 21:07:15 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Form flickers like hell in A2K3
References: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B55A0@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
	<41ACBB3D.6040209@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <027f01c4d763$9fca35a0$6501a8c0@HAL9002>

Marty:

Thanks for the heads up on this.  Just came across this today at two 
customer sites where they put my A2K app on an A2K3 machine and the flash 
was really annoying.  I tried a couple of things but no soap.  I'll walk 
them through this tomorrow .

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334

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From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
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Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Form flickers like hell in A2K3


> You ain't gonna believe this but if running WinXP change your theme  by 
> right-clicking your Windows XP desktop, choosing Properties, and setting 
> the Theme to "Windows Classic".
> If  you cannot solve it by deselecting Use Windows Themed Controls on 
> Forms under Tools | Options | Forms/Reports in Access 2003
> The flickering or flutter goes away on my machine using Win XP Theme 
> Classic Access 2003 and  by deselecting above option
> The flickering is triggered by unattached labels on the page of a tab 
> control. The workaround is to convert these labels to text boxes.
> For non english speakers I found this by searching on Screen Flutter 
> rather than Flicker.
>
> For full explanation. and code to correct all forms if above tools option 
> method doesn't work
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~allenbrowne/ser-46.html
>
> Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:
>
>>Can anyone tell me why the form in this database flickers like hell when
>>moving over the green zones or labels.
>>This only in A2K3, same database same form, does not flicker in A2K2....
>> http://www.ithelps.be/temp/test.mdb
>> greetz
>>
>>
>>Erwin Craps
>>
>>Zaakvoerder
>>www.ithelps.be/jonathan
>>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 30 23:32:55 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 21:32:55 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] To open or not to open
In-Reply-To: <BAY3-DAV241E778BCA92160EB8FE92C6BF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIEEMKCIAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Gregg:

Maybe try something as simple as catching the error code and managing it
yourself.

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gregg
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 8:38 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] To open or not to open


I have a home made security system that addresses user rights based upon
their function.  My method is to call a module that is on the on open of the
form that will set the Add, Edit, and Delete rights based upon the user's
function and the rights assigned to that function. My problem is... if a
user does not have Add rights and there is no data for the criteria
specified... I get an error "can't go to the specified record ".  I
understand the form is being opened without data to go to and therefore will
try to go to a new record and naturally will error because we have set ADD
to no.  My question is what method can I use to avoid all that?  My wish is
to issue a message that there is no data to view and return without opening
the fom
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